852766;1412121610;BingoBoingo;Maybe that McCain kid is finally senile enough to be a reliable empty suit?
852767;1412121673;mircea_popescu;who's melia ?
852768;1412121684;ben_vulpes;;;google melia
852769;1412121685;gribble;MELIA HOTELS INTERNATIONAL - MELIA - GRAN MELIA - SOL ...: ; Hotel Directory by Meliá Hotels International: ; Meliá Nassau Beach - Hotel in Nassau - BAHAMAS - Meliá Hotels:
852770;1412121692;ben_vulpes;it was a long shot
852771;1412121696;ben_vulpes;;;google melia obama
852772;1412121696;gribble;Family of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Malia and Sasha Obama Through the Years Photos - ABC News: ; Malia Obama Birthday: First Daughter Turns 14, Her Most Stylish ...: ; Bush - Drunken Stepfather: ; BookReader - Daddy_s slut girl (Egan Norma):
852781;1412121765;mircea_popescu;y.
852782;1412121773;mircea_popescu;ty google. you understand me.
852783;1412121804;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2D40Y2N.txt )
852784;1412121804;BingoBoingo;!b 5
852785;1412121942;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00074898 = 34.3782 BTC [+] {2}
852786;1412122003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2555 @ 0.00075285 = 1.9235 BTC [+]
852787;1412122293;BingoBoingo;http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/02/ksk-off-topic-how-to-foil-a-child-molester.html
852788;1412122355;BingoBoingo;^ Basically the story of Circle
852789;1412122660;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> what was the name of that bush slut < haha
852790;1412122831;JuliaTourianski;that's one of the best reactions I've gotten. at least they're not discussing what i look like.
852791;1412123145;BingoBoingo;JuliaTourianski: That's why I don't do video
852792;1412123295;ben_vulpes;<******> You've made three unsuccessful attempts to find your account. We've locked this session for security reasons. Please close and reopen your browser to start again. << annals of web security engineering
852793;1412123341;BingoBoingo;http://statsbylopez.com/2014/09/29/stat-pundit-rankings-mlb-2014-overunder-win-totals/ << "Vegas Odds"
852794;1412123343;assbot;Stat pundit rankings: MLB 2014 over/under win totals | StatsbyLopez
852795;1412124518;BingoBoingo;So this Oakland/Kansas-Shitty Ace off already has point against both pitchers
852796;1412124931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00075288 = 26.2755 BTC [+]
852797;1412125053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00074818 = 38.8305 BTC [-] {4}
852798;1412125080;BingoBoingo;OMG MPOE crashing
852799;1412125508;BingoBoingo;%v
852800;1412125510;atcbot;[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 170 Ask: 266 Last Price: 180 30d-Vol: 252k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 191
852801;1412125530;Apocalyptic;%d
852802;1412125532;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 300101.21 in 684 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.02
852803;1412125635;BingoBoingo;%p
852804;1412125637;atcbot;>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 139.27 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.83 TH/s
852805;1412125652;BingoBoingo;!up AMDCeleron
852806;1412125659;BingoBoingo;So AMDCeleron WHo are you really?
852807;1412125678;AMDCeleron;i like AMD better than Intel yet i got a Celeron cpu in my laptop
852808;1412125697;BingoBoingo;AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on the AMD low power chips?
852809;1412125706;AMDCeleron;like amd c-60?
852810;1412125722;AMDCeleron;i had a netbook with c60 two years ago and it was ok i guess
852811;1412125728;BingoBoingo;Well, not that low power. Like the E-XXXX and its successors.
852812;1412125752;mircea_popescu;dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs
852813;1412125806;BingoBoingo;AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on non-x86-BBQ chips?
852814;1412125827;AMDCeleron;like iphone chips?
852815;1412125834;AMDCeleron;BingoBoingo, i dont know i have had an amd cpu in a year
852816;1412125869;AMDCeleron;why do you care about what i think of AMD?
852817;1412125886;BingoBoingo;AMDCeleron: I'm talking beautiful stuff like IBM Power, Motorola 68k, Sun Sparc/Sparc64
852818;1412125904;BingoBoingo;AMDCeleron: I'm just curious about people's IRC nick strategies
852819;1412125907;AMDCeleron;not sure ive never really used it
852820;1412125931;AMDCeleron;I choose AMD because i like amd better than INtel, yet i have celeron n2830 in my laptop
852821;1412125950;BingoBoingo;AMDCeleron: WHy not give them both the finger and go Longsoon?
852822;1412125962;AMDCeleron;idk
852823;1412126084;mircea_popescu; <******> << the stars are secure
852824;1412126090;mircea_popescu;that's why used in pw fields.
852825;1412126151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10577 @ 0.00074721 = 7.9032 BTC [-] {2}
852826;1412126212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00074682 = 28.2298 BTC [-] {3}
852827;1412126469;BingoBoingo;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/hot-dougs-closing_n_5882072.html?cps=gravity << Shitcago School of Applied Economics
852828;1412126469;assbot;The Best Hot Dogs In America Are Going Extinct, And Everyone Wants A Bite Before It's Too Late
852829;1412126865;AMDCeleron;what is assbot
852830;1412126900;BingoBoingo;Assbot is kakobrekla's monster. In december it consumes the wrong kind of naughty Children.
852831;1412127232;cazalla;from that digital cc annual report - On 28 February 2014, Mt Gox, the online Bitcoin trading exchange filed for bankruptcy protection in Japan. At the time Mt Gox filed for bankruptcy, Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd (wholly owned subsidiary of the Group) held approximately $233,435 of bitcoins with Mt Gox. It is uncertain as to whether Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd will recover those bitcoins
852832;1412127233;cazalla;in the future and therefore the inventory has been written down in full.
852833;1412127243;cazalla;they incurred a loss of 11m for the financial year
852834;1412127337;BingoBoingo;cazalla: How much have you thought about non-name logistics for the news site?
852835;1412127374;cazalla;BingoBoingo, cart before horse much?
852836;1412127388;cazalla;jk of course
852837;1412127459;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Well, the first thing to have is probabaly a site pushing quality blocks of text. Within hours of settling on a domain.
852838;1412127472;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com domain naming strategy
852839;1412127473;gribble;Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely wrong pe ...: ; [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus - Bitcoin Forum: ; Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally pe Trilema - Un ...: (1 more message)
852840;1412127473;cazalla;i figure modelling it after coinfire without all the silliness would be a start, see if i stick at it longer than a few months and then maybe bring some more people on board
852841;1412127538;BingoBoingo;cazalla: From the start I will be willing to contribute articles.
852842;1412127569;BingoBoingo;And suggestions, like Toolbox is the only useful Wordpress theme
852843;1412127606;mircea_popescu;cazalla sounds liek a sound plan actually.
852844;1412127624;cazalla;BingoBoingo, simpler the theme, the better
852845;1412127653;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Doesn't really get simpler. And as you get ideas about the look, you build from it.
852846;1412127666;cazalla;i use to use thesis for my wordpress sites though
852847;1412127717;cazalla;would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x
852848;1412127724;kakobrekla;fuck me. one of these days im gonna have a heart attack.
852849;1412127748;BingoBoingo;Everyone has their vices. BingoBlog's first theme was some swiss named default offered in lieu of ugly ass 20XX
852850;1412127763;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla wha happened ?
852851;1412127814;kakobrekla;i was in the middle of bbet maintenance when suddenly everything stopped working
852852;1412127821;kakobrekla;could not figure out for the hell of it wtf
852853;1412127838;BingoBoingo; would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x << Maybe MP can lend WordPress insights. I just kind of start with current and kill obnoxious defaults. For a news site though you probably want a new enough version to have decent multiuser handling.
852854;1412127851;kakobrekla;sweating blood on keyboard
852855;1412127863;kakobrekla;to find out i got locked out by ddos protection.
852856;1412127875;kakobrekla;and in reality it works.
852857;1412127972;mircea_popescu;lol
852858;1412127988;mircea_popescu;better than the other way around eh.
852859;1412127990;cazalla;how about using one of these new tlds trollbox.report
852860;1412128048;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Could work
852861;1412128095;cazalla;i can't think of any notable website starting with tr
852862;1412128138;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/35VCN5Y.txt )
852863;1412128138;BingoBoingo;!b 3
852864;1412128190;BingoBoingo;Whatever the initial name is...there's sites in the #b-a interwebz hood that can get your google juice organically primed and buzzworded
852865;1412128355;BingoBoingo;cazalla: As I understand web publishing though... One of the most important parts is having content before going on srs promotion binges
852866;1412128425;BingoBoingo;If the news site starts tomorrow... I can be a srs contender for newbs around X-mas
852867;1412128531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26984 @ 0.00074788 = 20.1808 BTC [+]
852868;1412128608;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-web-20-illustrated/
852869;1412128642;mircea_popescu;cazalla ^ btw.
852870;1412128874;BingoBoingo;!up peterL_ good boy
852871;1412128892;PeterL_;hi
852872;1412128985;BingoBoingo;!up devthedev
852873;1412128985;BingoBoingo;O hai PeterL
852874;1412129126;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: people live everywhere people live << for the sake of argument, let's agree they're 'people.' but is that 'living' ?
852875;1412129144;mircea_popescu;now how would i know
852876;1412129198;BingoBoingo;Samizdat in IP land: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gaming/2014/09/major_scrabble_brouhaha_can_you_copyright_a_list_of_words.html
852877;1412129198;assbot;Scrabble copyright dispute: Hasbro says it owns the Scrabble dictionary. Players beg to differ.
852878;1412129211;mircea_popescu;lmao
852879;1412129300;BingoBoingo;It's like if Nimzovich said Imma publish 'My System' but nun-yall can play it.
852880;1412129353;mircea_popescu;it's like this dumb kid in the courtyard figured somebody gives a shit if he loses an eye.
852881;1412129394;asciilifeform;lol, hasbro!
852882;1412129401;asciilifeform;everybody knows the story with that firm ?
852883;1412129410;BingoBoingo;Which story?
852884;1412129410;devthedev;Good evening
852885;1412129417;asciilifeform;they bought up virtually the entire u.s. computer game industry - and then imploded.
852886;1412129436;asciilifeform;most of the purchases were taxidermically hollowed out (assuming they even had meat) and used as bare named
852887;1412129438;asciilifeform;e.g. 'atari'
852888;1412129446;BingoBoingo;Ah
852889;1412129467;asciilifeform;(my brother at one time worked in a tiny game firm, their product was released with 'atari' on the box by the publisher - at the time, hasbro corp.)
852890;1412129524;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yup, quite. bought all the dead birds
852891;1412129543;asciilifeform;and attached strings, put on muppet show.
852892;1412129564;mircea_popescu;myeah. as if you know ?
852893;1412129578;mircea_popescu;possibly dumbest company in history of ip debacles, way up there with the riaa/mpaa crowd
852894;1412129589;asciilifeform;evidently something remains of it!
852895;1412129595;*;asciilifeform was a little surprised
852896;1412129602;mircea_popescu;about the same as remains of the "comics code"
852897;1412129608;mircea_popescu;an office in a basemenent somewhere
852898;1412129609;asciilifeform;lol
852899;1412129619;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Bankruptcy is a powerful tool as Mr. Trump can attest.
852900;1412129619;mircea_popescu;unless it was finally closed
852901;1412129660;asciilifeform;basement, office, bag of money the size of a Waring laboratory blender. recipe for eternal life.
852902;1412129995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39521 @ 0.00075307 = 29.7621 BTC [+] {3}
852903;1412130058;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: So... We're prolly all stuck now. Ebola diagnosed in the US. Outgoing border controls can't be far away.
852904;1412130081;devthedev;BingoBoingo: I still have that canoe if you want to borrow it.
852905;1412130110;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: marburg was in usa, etc.
852906;1412130123;asciilifeform;!s the holiday
852907;1412130124;assbot;37 results for 'the holiday' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+holiday
852908;1412130132;BingoBoingo;devthedev: Well I haven't found library work so...Maybe I'll work X-mas at the mall and get back to you in January.
852909;1412130139;asciilifeform;if time for 'the holiday' - they don't need excuse.
852910;1412130152;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The US has its own disease demons like Hanta.
852911;1412130176;BingoBoingo;It would take some disease with a hashtag.
852912;1412130320;mircea_popescu;jee whiz, i had no idea ebola had tracks.
852913;1412130334;mircea_popescu;what strange tank is this!
852914;1412130399;devthedev;The talks of a properly run Bitcoin news site is interesting.
852915;1412130420;devthedev;What would be needed to make it a reality?
852916;1412130421;mircea_popescu;devthedev didn't you work for something like that at some point ?
852917;1412130438;asciilifeform;'there wasn't ebola when bush was president, thanks obama'
852918;1412130443;asciilifeform;(random turd from net)
852919;1412130454;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform blame obamacare ? lol.
852920;1412130500;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you'll appreciate today's puzzle box: http://imgur.com/a/ZcyQH
852921;1412130500;assbot;Puzzle Box - Imgur
852922;1412130508;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: He's a Florida kid. Was on TradeFartress's CoinChat and did his own thing afterwards.
852923;1412130509;asciilifeform;(unrelated)
852924;1412130538;devthedev;Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue.
852925;1412130547;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Is that a helium release valve?
852926;1412130571;asciilifeform;any gas
852927;1412130585;decimation;re: bankruptcy << usg is bankrupt (as discussed yesterday). the natural law of bankruptcy demands that the bankrupt lose control of their assets to the creditors
852928;1412130604;BingoBoingo; Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue. << Wrote the only worthwhile stories on a since failed venue. Operator never showed and stayed here in spite on invites.
852929;1412130615;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform> any gas << Ah
852930;1412130677;mircea_popescu;devthedev well, talk to cazalla basically.
852931;1412130713;devthedev;Will do
852932;1412130725;decimation;re: floating-point << http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/floating-point-determinism/ "Is IEEE floating-point math deterministic? Will you always get the same results from the same inputs? The answer is an unequivocal “yes”. Unfortunately the answer is also an unequivocal “no”. I’m afraid you will need to clarify your question."
852933;1412130727;assbot;Floating-Point Determinism | Random ASCII
852934;1412130775;BingoBoingo;devthedev: He might be cleaning rabbits atm.
852935;1412130792;mircea_popescu;decimation lmao good one
852936;1412130796;BingoBoingo;!up devthedev
852937;1412130798;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot devthedev
852938;1412130798;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
852939;1412130804;mircea_popescu;you know you can self up.
852940;1412130827;devthedev;I don't have access to my OTC keys at the moment to auth.
852941;1412131032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4616 @ 0.00074788 = 3.4522 BTC [-]
852942;1412131053;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: hint - puzzle box is in my kitchen.
852943;1412131097;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Brewing something or preparing under the sea anchor safe
852944;1412131107;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: negative.
852945;1412131159;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Century hard drive?
852946;1412131164;asciilifeform;nope.
852947;1412131230;BingoBoingo;Dead Nigger Storage?
852948;1412131234;asciilifeform;lol
852949;1412131248;*;asciilifeform doesn't know what the box for that looks like, but imagines slightly larger
852950;1412131286;BingoBoingo;;;google pulp fiction dead nigger storage
852951;1412131287;gribble;Pulp Fiction: "Dead Nigger Storage" - YouTube: ; Dead Nigger Storage - YouTube: ; Pulp Fiction (1994) - Quotes - IMDb:
852952;1412131292;asciilifeform;if this one were a coffin, it'd hold a very obese 5 y.o.
852953;1412131305;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Noiseless computer?
852954;1412131314;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: give up ?
852955;1412131320;BingoBoingo;I concede
852956;1412131325;asciilifeform;it's empty, of course.
852957;1412131343;asciilifeform;cheapest way to get airtight crate, by a factor of 10, is usg surplus.
852958;1412131350;BingoBoingo;Ah
852959;1412131404;asciilifeform;and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter.
852960;1412131475;decimation;http://www.dlis.dla.mil/webflis/pub/pub_search.aspx
852961;1412131477;assbot;WebFLIS - Public Search
852962;1412131482;decimation;"SHIPPING AND STORAGE CONTAINER,POWER SUPPLY"
852963;1412131489;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform> and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter. << Wait how much does a climate controlled storage locker cost on your left coast?
852964;1412131495;asciilifeform;decimation: yes.
852965;1412131515;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: locker with mains socket that you can sit in?
852966;1412131523;decimation;I yearn for the days when usg would actually create a spec for an object and have it manufactured
852967;1412131523;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: and loudly machine things ?
852968;1412131532;asciilifeform;decimation: nukes
852969;1412131562;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: they're called 'apartments' and cost $maxint
852970;1412131573;decimation;those rare items that fall into that category are purchased at unobtainium toilet prices
852971;1412131584;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Lacks own mains socket, but climate controlled costs ~50/month here. Also lacks plumbing.
852972;1412131594;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: then not really applicable
852973;1412131607;BingoBoingo;I guess
852974;1412131607;decimation;asciilifeform: it looks like a poor man's pelican case
852975;1412131638;decimation;except better constructed with the metal lip & latches
852976;1412131650;asciilifeform;decimation: considerably nicer than 'pelican' - the lips are aluminum, and latches are valve-like cranks that twist tight
852977;1412131654;asciilifeform;(steel)
852978;1412131658;asciilifeform;fiddybucks.
852979;1412131686;asciilifeform;'dr. evil' appearance - thrown in for free.
852980;1412131692;decimation;wow. I thought the problem with buying usg surplus is that you have to buy a pallet
852981;1412131699;decimation;did you buy from junk dealer?
852982;1412131708;asciilifeform;i demand that my dismembered corpse, when time comes, be stowed in a crate no worse than this one!
852983;1412131721;asciilifeform;decimation: yes
852984;1412131763;decimation;'costco', one of the better us 'retailers' got its start selling caskets
852985;1412131923;decimation;http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/30/top-va-official-conspired-with-her-married-boyfriend-to-thwart-investigations/ << "A 2008 performance review, according to the investigation, stated that “her accomplishments were undermined by her poor judgment and lack of accountability. … Ms. Taylor allowed a personal friend to be hired in her department as a contractor [Mr. Dobrzykowski]; ... This, of course, is all good enough for
852986;1412131924;assbot;Top VA Exec Conspired With Married Boyfriend To Thwart Investigations | The Daily Caller
852987;1412131924;decimation;government work, since two years later she found herself in a top position at the VHA."
852988;1412131959;decimation;Not the kind of government bureaucrat that could design or even employ someone to design a quality case
852989;1412131997;asciilifeform;http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/24/clinton-aide-watches-stall-as-reporter-relieves-herself << linked from above
852990;1412131997;assbot;Clinton Aide Watches Stall As Reporter Pees | The Daily Caller
852991;1412132027;decimation;yeah 'daily caller' is an obviously americanized version of 'daily mail', and highly amusing
852992;1412132178;devthedev;I'm not sure what I'd do if someone followed me into the stall, probably wouldn't be too pretty though.
852993;1412132213;BingoBoingo;devthedev: My answer prolly depends on if they look pretty
852994;1412132288;devthedev;The comments are classic.
852995;1412132308;mircea_popescu;!up AdrianoOliveira
852996;1412132334;AdrianoOliveira;Thanks!
852997;1412132388;BingoBoingo;devthedev: For the record you are roughly how old and how advanced in 'Murica school.
852998;1412132446;devthedev;I'm 15 and a Junior currently taking mostly AP classes.
852999;1412132563;cazalla;<+devthedev> What would be needed to make it a reality? <<< like anything, consistency
853000;1412132627;decimation;!up devthedev
853001;1412132659;devthedev;Of course
853002;1412132683;decimation;asciilifeform: reading about floating point implementations on x86 is suicidally depressing for an x86 programmer
853003;1412132698;asciilifeform;decimation: wait till you realize there's 2 of them.
853004;1412132702;asciilifeform;uncoupled.
853005;1412132705;cazalla;although i guess jborkl is consistent, i feels bad for him
853006;1412132708;decimation;yeah, sse and x87
853007;1412132715;asciilifeform;yes.
853008;1412132749;asciilifeform;because gr0wth and pr0gr355, or something.
853009;1412132771;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Consistent, but alone insufficient. Pretty much the curse of anyone who tries this thing solo and without structure.
853010;1412132859;BingoBoingo;cazalla: I am skimming the #b-a periphery though for the hungry and not malinformed. So far I've found 1 candidate. I might find another.
853011;1412132882;BingoBoingo;devthedev: Does peapodamus still go online?
853012;1412132908;devthedev;I haven't spoken to him for about 2 weeks.
853013;1412132929;asciilifeform;x86 - what nobody wants, but everybody gets. like tax, death, arse waltzes.
853014;1412132936;BingoBoingo;Sooner than last year devthedev
853015;1412132951;BingoBoingo;So I guess he fails the consistency criteria.
853016;1412132966;decimation;plus intel keeps coming up with 'new' sse/cisc instructions that are """correct""": http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/theres-only-four-billion-floatsso-test-them-all/ << "A few months ago I saw a blog post touting fancy new SSE3 functions for implementing vector floor, ceil, and round functions. There was the inevitable proud proclaiming of impressive performance and correctness. However the ceil function gave the wrong
853017;1412132967;assbot;There are Only Four Billion Floats–So Test Them All! | Random ASCII
853018;1412132967;decimation;answer for many numbers it was supposed to handle, including odd-ball numbers like ‘one’."
853019;1412132996;BingoBoingo;devthedev: What about the really obnoxious one, Whiskers? WHo I'm pretty sure is in his 40's/
853020;1412133005;asciilifeform;gave the wrong answer << dollars to doughnuts, whichever answer comes out of 'matlab.'
853021;1412133010;asciilifeform;on normal x86 box.
853022;1412133014;devthedev;I'm not too fond of him BingoBoingo
853023;1412133052;devthedev;I haven't spoken to him since last year
853024;1412133053;decimation;my understanding is that matlab on x86 just uses doubles
853025;1412133061;asciilifeform;and these use...
853026;1412133066;BingoBoingo;devthedev: Not many are, but after this thing gets feet he might be a solid audition.
853027;1412133085;asciilifeform;tell-tale heart: if 'double' is 80 bits, you're using x86 fp
853028;1412133101;decimation;asciilifeform: surely you aren't suggesting that intel allowed some swarthy intern design their cisc instructions with some dumbass matlab script?
853029;1412133141;asciilifeform;decimation: not instructions. the poster.
853030;1412133149;BingoBoingo;decimation: This is Intel, once the US legalizes weed at the Federal level their foundries are being converted to farms.
853031;1412133151;asciilifeform;seriously, work in a u.s. anything & see.
853032;1412133185;decimation;yeah, I know. everyone wants to implement on matlab, and they do not usually think about issues like numerical precision
853033;1412133191;decimation;the blog poster is a googleer
853034;1412133199;asciilifeform;phun phact. traditionally, the folks who write cpu manuals (how many people here have seen them alive? dead tree manuals) don't have access to original design specs.
853035;1412133210;asciilifeform;they're interns
853036;1412133216;asciilifeform;get napkin notes
853037;1412133245;asciilifeform;decimation: you don't get it. likely the folks who wrote the presentation, gave results of supposed tests, etc. never even saw the chip.
853038;1412133279;decimation;ah I see. yeah that's probably true
853039;1412133289;decimation;someone gave them a 'model' maybe
853040;1412133292;asciilifeform;so there is a mostly unwritten 'talmud' of differences between intel's manuals and the reality.
853041;1412133300;asciilifeform;(no you can't buy it from intel)
853042;1412133304;asciilifeform;amd - similar story
853043;1412133329;decimation;this is why intel can make money both ways - selling chips and selling compilers/libraries that actually use them
853044;1412133335;asciilifeform;when people say x86 is a turd - this is more than an aesthetic opinion
853045;1412133337;devthedev;Have a great day everyone, I'm going to get some sleep.
853046;1412133352;asciilifeform;it is a statement of fact. in that, encountering an animal turd in the forest, you know only approximately what is its composition.
853047;1412133354;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform> amd - similar story << Fucked themselves for years by compiling their compilers with Intels
853048;1412133404;decimation;intel's ipp and compiler would 'detect' amd and disable its sse routines
853049;1412133411;decimation;I'm not sure if it still does
853050;1412133431;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: amd does not sell compilers.
853051;1412133455;asciilifeform;(unless this is a deep secret i was never privy to)
853052;1412133469;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: To my knowledge they've never sold either
853053;1412133485;decimation;AMD mainly sells usg anti-monopoly prosecution protection
853054;1412133589;BingoBoingo;decimation: They also sell the best laptop chips around.
853055;1412133597;decimation;I'm pretty partial to the haswell chip in my mbp
853056;1412133652;BingoBoingo;I actually don't actively dislike the E-350 in my X120e
853057;1412133663;BingoBoingo;I hate the fucking wireless card.
853058;1412133696;BingoBoingo;But I don't actively dislike the CPU/GPU combo
853059;1412133762;*;BingoBoingo remembers fuckers Spz. AMD APU's would be the mining be all and end all and they don't even register seriously for the weird alt hash functions
853060;1412133825;decimation;I mined with AMD/ATI gpu back in the day, I grew to hate AMD's driver releases that would ruin everything
853061;1412133892;BingoBoingo;I really, truly should have put the alcohol hobby on hold through grad school, but... The lack of time machines is a necessary bitch.
853062;1412134154;BingoBoingo;!up AdrianoOliveira
853063;1412134282;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/517154726933463040
853064;1412134283;assbot;Today is September 30, 2014, and there is still not much BIP32 support. Muh /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash 2.0.
853065;1412134448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41879 @ 0.00074648 = 31.2618 BTC [-] {2}
853066;1412134448;BingoBoingo;!up Trix
853067;1412134936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00074661 = 8.7353 BTC [+]
853068;1412135665;TheNewDeal;credit card locked out after 1 failed attempt to enter a zip code. Thank security
853069;1412136001;cazalla;3D secure might be worse
853070;1412136233;TheNewDeal;wow, never ever heard of that nonsense
853071;1412136333;BingoBoingo;Oh, The Oakland KC wildcard game is in extra innings
853072;1412136369;TheNewDeal;;;calc (41/34.661)**(1/3)
853073;1412136370;gribble;1.05758250067
853074;1412136387;TheNewDeal;;;calc (41/35)**(.5)
853075;1412136387;gribble;1.08232553856
853076;1412136487;TheNewDeal;;;calc 41/34.66
853077;1412136487;gribble;1.18291979227
853078;1412136628;BingoBoingo;;;later tell bitstein You want a conversation, but... Twitter seriously?
853079;1412136629;gribble;The operation succeeded.
853080;1412137071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00075061 = 17.9771 BTC [+] {2}
853081;1412137578;BingoBoingo;So... the AL postseason RBI record was broken... today... on the first game...
853082;1412137593;BingoBoingo;For Oaland's record
853083;1412137729;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Do you still have an adorable bunny negro?
853084;1412137796;cazalla;it's a little browner but yes
853085;1412137847;BingoBoingo;cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name?
853086;1412137854;BingoBoingo;Q pronounced as K
853087;1412137876;BingoBoingo;Pic of the little browner as the favicon.
853088;1412137960;BingoBoingo;!up los_pantalones
853089;1412138040;cazalla;reminds me of contra code
853090;1412138071;BingoBoingo;Reminds people of a lot of things
853091;1412138200;cazalla;said bunny http://imgur.com/RN3XoLK
853092;1412138200;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
853093;1412138233;BingoBoingo;cazalla: You got a mascot
853094;1412138504;TheNewDeal;cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing - must have been reading the correct animal entrails
853095;1412138723;cazalla;BingoBoingo, yeah he or she is a keeper, i think the buck is the half breed so hopefully female so i can breed it back
853096;1412138760;BingoBoingo;Nice. Bunny rabbits are delicious.
853097;1412138837;mircea_popescu;"Greetings from Bitgazetteer.com, We are very happy to announce that your store/business has been posted on our bitgazetteer.com website because you integrated Bitcoins/Crypto-Currency as a legitimate payment method."
853098;1412138854;mircea_popescu;these fucktards. yeah, im sure spamming is the way to start a "business".
853099;1412138909;Dimsler;lol
853100;1412138922;Dimsler;must read bitgazetteer
853101;1412138943;mircea_popescu;big zappy deer'd have been a better name
853102;1412139000;BingoBoingo;Zappy Deer could be the first decent iPhone game.
853103;1412139450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007477 = 7.9256 BTC [-]
853104;1412139659;cazalla;<+BingoBoingo> cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name? <<< as discussed, qntra as domain name, anyone have input?
853105;1412139713;BingoBoingo;Qntra seems like the winner
853106;1412139741;asciilifeform;cazalla: ever milk them?
853107;1412139773;cazalla;asciilifeform no but i've read about it, apparently their milk is amongst the best
853108;1412139779;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The bunnies?
853109;1412139787;asciilifeform;amongst the best << i always suspected!
853110;1412139796;asciilifeform;amazing premium product!
853111;1412139796;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
853112;1412139804;*;asciilifeform would buy
853113;1412139903;asciilifeform;http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091201-rabbits-milk-human-protein-drug << apparently good for ~120mL/day.
853114;1412139903;assbot;Rabbits Milked for Human Protein; Drug Soon for Sale?
853115;1412139905;BingoBoingo;My youngest brother at one point had a buck rabbit
853116;1412139906;asciilifeform;not bad.
853117;1412139983;BingoBoingo;In its last year among the living feeding it without getting a fist full of bunny jizz was a near impossible task.
853118;1412140045;cazalla;i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though
853119;1412140061;BingoBoingo;I just washed my hands thoroughly.
853120;1412140082;BingoBoingo;... and tried to forget the rape of my fist
853121;1412140097;*;asciilifeform searched for 'rabbit milking machine' - found: http://elevenredpaperclips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SAM_0847.jpg
853122;1412140360;cazalla;bucks will fuck anything
853123;1412140376;cazalla;does are worse though, they'll try to fuck the buck
853124;1412140721;cazalla;btw pete_dushenski, while it might sound similar to contravex, it's mere coincidence
853125;1412140817;BingoBoingo;So... Disclaimer... I was the horrible dirty influence on Cazalla
853126;1412140853;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.0007477 = 8.3369 BTC [-]
853127;1412141120;asciilifeform;obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM
853128;1412141120;assbot;Kingpin--cow milk - YouTube
853129;1412141326;mircea_popescu; i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though <<< as there's not that much human history of drinking rabbit milk, likely it's safe.
853130;1412141497;asciilifeform;if mammal - milk it.
853131;1412141500;asciilifeform;why waste.
853132;1412141567;cazalla;asciilifeform, seems tedious to do with a rabbit
853133;1412141576;asciilifeform;cazalla: machines. see link.
853134;1412141605;asciilifeform;cazalla: not commercially available off-shelf, sure. but good project for amateur machinist.
853135;1412141650;cazalla;a machine? suck it straight from the titty
853136;1412141657;asciilifeform;or that.
853137;1412141687;asciilifeform;(also works for cow, i imagine, but for some reason not popular.)
853138;1412141714;cazalla;gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change
853139;1412141743;asciilifeform;rabbit could shit in your face if you hold it like a bottle and drink?
853140;1412141749;*;asciilifeform not expert in field
853141;1412141796;cazalla;having your face scratched would be my concern
853142;1412142073;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00074627 = 10.1866 BTC [-] {2}
853143;1412142119;hanbot; gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change << chronicled: http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/
853144;1412142119;assbot;Namecheap goes off the deep end. Anyone know a decent domain registrar ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
853145;1412142419;cazalla;hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one
853146;1412142445;hanbot;loller
853147;1412142500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39533 @ 0.00074582 = 29.4845 BTC [-] {3}
853148;1412142750;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
853149;1412142751;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.2, Best ask: 392.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 392.7, 24 hour volume: 14382.73145314, 24 hour low: 373.24, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 385.5512724
853150;1412142988;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00074704 = 7.1753 BTC [+] {2}
853151;1412144940;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.0007463 = 9.6646 BTC [-]
853152;1412145291;BingoBoingo;So anyone awake thoughts on this new 'Gotham' show?
853153;1412145407;Duffer1;i'm afraid it will be very bad
853154;1412145474;Duffer1;oh it's already started
853155;1412145493;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: Yeah, already started. Surprisingly not bad.
853156;1412145611;Duffer1;i dunno i'm worried they'll pervert the timeline
853157;1412145635;Duffer1;well i'm worried they'll do that, and it will suck, if it's good i wouldn't mind so much :P
853158;1412145667;BingoBoingo;At some point, after enough splits, a piece of fiction looses the ability to have a single canon... And would you rather prefer Adam West...
853159;1412145689;BingoBoingo;As far after two episodes the thing isn't non-sensical
853160;1412145696;Duffer1;oh i agree, but i don't trust fox to do it right or well
853161;1412145739;BingoBoingo;Which is a predicament, because if it has unrealized potential Fox could kill it half a season in.
853162;1412145807;BingoBoingo;Fox is the worst sort of quality filter imaginable
853163;1412145855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0007463 = 8.06 BTC [-]
853164;1412145866;Duffer1;indeed
853165;1412145913;Duffer1;i would have loved to see the batman flashpoint alternative history as a series
853166;1412145916;Duffer1;tv series
853167;1412145934;Duffer1;on hbo
853168;1412146149;BingoBoingo;Well, cable is a still more finicky beast. HBO has yet to beat the wire. AMC has yet to touch Breaking Bad.
853169;1412146191;Duffer1;fringe wasn't bad either (fox no less)
853170;1412146213;BingoBoingo;Yeah
853171;1412146223;bounce;namecheap looks like bog standard tabletisation to me. that's not "2.0", where everything is ajaxified for no reason. this is that plus big large buttons for fat fingers and super-duper js-reinvented scrollage that may be nice for tablets but seriously doesn't for (non-fullscreen) browsers on the desktop
853172;1412146256;punkman;bounce, yeah "mobile first"
853173;1412146285;bounce;call it a kick in the teeth over and above requiring "browser features" that don't actually add anything to the content. dunno if that's "3.0" or "4.0" or whatever.
853174;1412146337;Duffer1;BingoBoingo, the creator of the wire is currently writing a new HBO series called Show Me a Hero
853175;1412146414;BingoBoingo;Interesting
853176;1412146432;bounce;tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know.
853177;1412146443;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: The thing I like about Gotham is it is almost a noir, which is like how here the best to hope for is almost a steak.
853178;1412146462;BingoBoingo;Also that show pisses the hell out of the reddit fanbois
853179;1412146465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31056 @ 0.00074785 = 23.2252 BTC [+] {2}
853180;1412146477;Duffer1;i'll check it out, but my expectations are probably unreasonably high
853181;1412146526;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31865 @ 0.00075332 = 24.0045 BTC [+] {2}
853182;1412146536;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: As long as you remember Brian Cranston set every writer's expectations for TV unreasonably high it is hard to be disappoint as a viewer
853183;1412146544;punkman;BingoBoingo: I'd say from a financial perspective Game of Thrones has probably beat everything else HBO
853184;1412146576;BingoBoingo;punkman: But the bedrock underneath it with 2/7ths of the source material missing...
853185;1412146599;Duffer1;no doubt, easily the best television actor
853186;1412146612;BingoBoingo;punkman: Unless in mega troll behavior the tv show jumps the books which I endorse wholly
853187;1412146647;punkman;I like AMC's Hell on Wheels, not as good as BB of course
853188;1412146703;Duffer1;i'm watchin HoW too, I prefer Justified though
853189;1412146720;BingoBoingo;I'm drunk
853190;1412146726;Duffer1;but i've had a man crush on Timothy Olaphant since Deadwood
853191;1412146947;punkman;also watched Lilyhammer recently, was some good fun
853192;1412146982;Duffer1;ha
853193;1412146995;Duffer1;i tried watching it i really tried
853194;1412147012;punkman;subtitles are hard?
853195;1412147065;Duffer1;i just couldn't get into it, the story was not bad, but the main actor i just couldn't relate or believe in
853196;1412148108;punkman;http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628
853197;1412148108;assbot;Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
853198;1412148128;punkman;yeah exactly what the doctor ordered, more phone in my disks
853199;1412148692;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktwo-k-onk
853200;1412148693;assbot;Accident between two vessels in suez canal 29/09/2014 in portsaid - YouTube
853201;1412148844;Duffer1;o.0
853202;1412149454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4630 @ 0.0007463 = 3.4554 BTC [-]
853203;1412149782;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedBot
853204;1412150064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00074899 = 8.2389 BTC [+]
853205;1412150308;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41017 @ 0.00074574 = 30.588 BTC [-] {5}
853206;1412151766;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
853207;1412151767;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 386.32, Best ask: 387.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 387.22, 24 hour volume: 15481.20021234, 24 hour low: 373.4, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.189487975
853208;1412151975;cazalla;does anyone know an alternative to pagewash?
853209;1412152069;thestringpuller;;;google pagewash
853210;1412152069;gribble;PageWash | Facebook: ; PageWash - About | Facebook: ; SURVAY SAYS LYRICS - Turn The Page, Wash Your Hands:
853211;1412152084;RagnarDanneskjol;whats that
853212;1412152116;RagnarDanneskjol;cant see fbook
853213;1412152128;cazalla;sorta like a proxy site
853214;1412152150;RagnarDanneskjol;oh, so like a vpn but lazier/less secure
853215;1412152158;cazalla;it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection
853216;1412152164;RagnarDanneskjol;hmm
853217;1412152174;cazalla;but they changed the site and made it useless
853218;1412152186;RagnarDanneskjol;it happens
853219;1412152210;bounce;plenty web-based proxies Out There. lots stuffed with ads, though
853220;1412152270;cazalla;yeah, pagewash wasn't like that and refreshed quickly
853221;1412152807;bounce;usg redefines data collection to allow all data dragnets: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140929/13451828665/executive-order-12333-documents-redefine-collection-authorize-majority-dragnet-surveillance-programs.shtml
853222;1412152807;assbot;Executive Order 12333 Documents Redefine 'Collection,' Authorize Majority Of Dragnet Surveillance Programs | Techdirt
853223;1412152831;punkman;didn't take long, did it
853224;1412152992;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00074522 = 13.1531 BTC [-] {2}
853225;1412155310;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00074504 = 9.0895 BTC [-] {2}
853226;1412156652;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25004 @ 0.00074479 = 18.6227 BTC [-] {3}
853227;1412156659;RagnarDanneskjol;http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname
853228;1412156660;assbot;FCC Considering Punishment for Broadcasters Who Use Redskins Nickname | Bleacher Report
853229;1412157628;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.00074468 = 33.8085 BTC [-] {4}
853230;1412158041;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.recentscientific.com/sites/default/files/download_110.pdf
853231;1412158059;RagnarDanneskjol;[CONTAMINATED MONEY IN CIRCULATION: A REVIEW]
853232;1412158104;RagnarDanneskjol;..contaminated - as in pathogens
853233;1412158640;chetty; http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname///nickname? isnt that the official team name?
853234;1412158641;assbot;Bleacher Report
853235;1412158703;chetty; ..contaminated - as in pathogens//read somewhere that virtually every 20 has cocaine traces
853236;1412158711;RagnarDanneskjol;yea - dont know why they called it nick
853237;1412158760;RagnarDanneskjol;i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to
853238;1412158909;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3112 @ 0.00074396 = 2.3152 BTC [-] {2}
853239;1412159275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00074558 = 27.6983 BTC [+]
853240;1412160251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28922 @ 0.00074383 = 21.5131 BTC [-] {2}
853241;1412160299;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedBot
853242;1412160304;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF
853243;1412160305;assbot;deed test - Pastebin.com
853244;1412160306;deedBot;deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853245;1412160306;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF
853246;1412160306;assbot;deed test - Pastebin.com
853247;1412160678;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00074566 = 14.354 BTC [+] {2}
853248;1412160767;RagnarDanneskjol;.balance
853249;1412160770;deedBot;deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00253000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
853250;1412161227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15197 @ 0.00074364 = 11.3011 BTC [-]
853251;1412161410;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00074356 = 24.5375 BTC [-] {4}
853252;1412161567;punkman;.deed http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6
853253;1412161567;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com
853254;1412161568;deedBot;deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle
853255;1412161568;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6
853256;1412161568;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com
853257;1412161591;punkman;1.5 signatures, nice
853258;1412161682;RagnarDanneskjol;wtf does that mean?
853259;1412161694;punkman;I have no clue
853260;1412161705;RagnarDanneskjol;ha - interesting
853261;1412161812;RagnarDanneskjol;I need to have a convo with you - re target bitcoin address as of the hash of the documents, not wasting coins, etc
853262;1412161825;RagnarDanneskjol;not now, soon
853263;1412161869;punkman;let me check my calendar :P
853264;1412161869;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedBot
853265;1412161875;RagnarDanneskjol;heh
853266;1412162004;RagnarDanneskjol;ahh - so 1.5 signatures apparently means one signed msg and one standalone sig
853267;1412162034;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE
853268;1412162034;assbot;test - Pastebin.com
853269;1412162035;deedBot;No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE
853270;1412162035;assbot;test - Pastebin.com
853271;1412162068;RagnarDanneskjol;oops - didnt paste it all
853272;1412162104;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS
853273;1412162104;assbot;test - Pastebin.com
853274;1412162105;deedBot;No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS
853275;1412162105;assbot;test - Pastebin.com
853276;1412162211;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt
853277;1412162212;assbot;ttst - Pastebin.com
853278;1412162213;deedBot;No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt
853279;1412162213;assbot;ttst - Pastebin.com
853280;1412162451;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0
853281;1412162451;assbot;tst - Pastebin.com
853282;1412162451;deedBot;deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle
853283;1412162451;deedBot;deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853284;1412162451;deedBot;Found 2 valid deeds in http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0
853285;1412162451;assbot;tst - Pastebin.com
853286;1412162463;deedBot;Bundled: 721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt
853287;1412162522;RagnarDanneskjol;.dump
853288;1412162522;deedBot;time=1412162522 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412162463 elapsed=59
853289;1412162523;deedBot;DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)
853290;1412162874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.0007442 = 18.8283 BTC [+]
853291;1412162877;deedBot;published http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt
853292;1412162921;RagnarDanneskjol;ok its there: http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/
853293;1412162921;assbot;DEEDS
853294;1412163193;punkman;http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit
853295;1412163193;assbot;reddit - Sam Altman
853296;1412163301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00074483 = 27.1863 BTC [+] {2}
853297;1412163355;RagnarDanneskjol;so much fail
853298;1412163789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00074349 = 10.223 BTC [-]
853299;1412163945;chetty;In several years, I think reddit could have close to a billion users.//what in the world is good about that?
853300;1412164098;punkman;lets you swindle more investors
853301;1412164373;mircea_popescu;it's never making it. reddit is about in the position of paypal : time to sell it.
853302;1412164389;mircea_popescu;"in a few years" i will have killed it dead.
853303;1412164568;mircea_popescu;cazalla:hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one << takes a bunch of scripting to transaform new pos back into old thing but it can be done.
853304;1412164583;mircea_popescu;fucking "coders" today, you know, writing shit so other people have to write unshit so the world can keep functioning.
853305;1412164670;mircea_popescu;punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first" <<< basically they're hiring imbecile 20somethings, that have grown up in the nazi party. they have one pow and one idea, and that's that.
853306;1412164700;mircea_popescu;if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.
853307;1412164752;mircea_popescu;the "black impudence" notion is just about to make its entry into the world.
853308;1412164793;mircea_popescu;!up R7R
853309;1412164911;mircea_popescu;bounce:tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. << EXACTLY fucking that omfg. exactly.
853310;1412164913;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2PZ8QF6.txt )
853311;1412164913;mircea_popescu;!b 1
853312;1412164958;mircea_popescu;fucking midwestern braindead chemists trying to run the world. "dem darn kids like that darn interwebs so much how about i make myself an interweb shaped corn. that'll sell!"
853313;1412165027;mircea_popescu;assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word <<< you mean if you ask your enemy to let you do it ? lawl ok, great thinking there shelops!
853314;1412165138;mircea_popescu;cazalla: it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection <<< i love browsershots for this purpose.
853315;1412165323;mircea_popescu;bounce: usg redefines data collection << lol.
853316;1412165394;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
853317;1412165395;assbot;George Carlin - Germs, Immune System - YouTube
853318;1412165397;mircea_popescu;im with him.
853319;1412165402;TomServo;!up devthedev
853320;1412165403;Azelphur;!up devthedev
853321;1412165432;RagnarDanneskjol;yea - thats a good one. carlin is right as usual
853322;1412165436;Azelphur;so apparently I have unsufficient rights, even though I'm already voiced
853323;1412165441;Azelphur;this makes sense \o/
853324;1412165448;mircea_popescu;Azelphur l1 vs l2.
853325;1412165451;TomServo;Same here - must need to reauth.
853326;1412165452;mircea_popescu;!up devthedev
853327;1412165457;devthedev;Thank you
853328;1412165459;Azelphur;ah
853329;1412165471;mircea_popescu;;;ident TomServo
853330;1412165471;gribble;Nick 'TomServo', with hostmask 'TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org', is not identified.
853331;1412165480;mircea_popescu;no actually, it's because you're unid'd.
853332;1412165484;mircea_popescu;ma bad.
853333;1412165503;Azelphur;oh I see, I really need to build gribble auth into my bouncer.
853334;1412165517;mircea_popescu;deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle << lolwut?!
853335;1412165530;mircea_popescu;Azelphur or just id when needed. safer that way.
853336;1412165539;mircea_popescu;the point of security features is for them to be secure not automated.
853337;1412165620;Azelphur;indeed, that's one of the reasons I haven't done it yet
853338;1412165637;jurov; [20141001 04:41] cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing << what? it was tat, not my area man
853339;1412165671;jurov;http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/reddit-scoops-up-50m-series-b-from-sam-altman-a16z-sequoia-at-500m-valuation/?ncid=rss
853340;1412165671;assbot;Reddit Plans Its Own Cryptocurrency To Give Back To Its Users After $50 Million Raise | TechCrunch
853341;1412165682;jurov;^god have mercy on us
853342;1412165686;mircea_popescu;ahahaha
853343;1412165697;mircea_popescu;bring it reddit. you're dead bitch.
853344;1412165892;TomServo;I thought doge was reddit's 'cryptocurrency'.
853345;1412165913;mircea_popescu;yes but doge i killed meanwhile. what'd you expect them to do, learn ?
853346;1412165924;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.0007464 = 25.2656 BTC [+]
853347;1412165947;mircea_popescu;they can't learn. they gotta try again. until mashed into pulp, old fizz caking on their ragged tshirt, redditards gotta try their redditardation again.
853348;1412165953;mircea_popescu;and again and again and again.
853349;1412166573;mats_cd03;:(
853350;1412167086;mircea_popescu;why sadface mats_cd03 ?
853351;1412167132;mats_cd03;watching people do dumb things makes me sad
853352;1412167251;mircea_popescu;eh, gotta learn to laff.
853353;1412167255;mircea_popescu;Il lavoro gioia, il lavoro allegria!
853354;1412167359;chetty;if its fun it isnt work, silly
853355;1412167388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074726 = 21.7453 BTC [+] {5}
853356;1412167421;mircea_popescu;lol
853357;1412167589;chetty;You all saw Ebola arrived in Texas?
853358;1412167698;mircea_popescu;yea
853359;1412167784;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH0jZ_4CMAAQBEZ.jpg
853360;1412167809;RagnarDanneskjol;ha
853361;1412168211;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/
853362;1412168341;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ^ when you sign it, put the signed into deedsbot and just comment the link ?
853363;1412168344;RagnarDanneskjol;oohh deedbot signed statements. good thinkin - imma do that too
853364;1412168403;kakobrekla;dude...
853365;1412168423;kakobrekla;fine, but everybody must do it.
853366;1412168517;mircea_popescu;well ima do it anyway.
853367;1412168542;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol kinda what it's for eh ?
853368;1412168576;RagnarDanneskjol;i hadnt thought through the many usecases quite yet
853369;1412168603;mircea_popescu;and let me open an imaginary bottle of virtual champagne for all the bitbet good news. not only is it finally out of arrears, but moreover, best month for incoming bets in history and shit.
853370;1412168618;mircea_popescu;who knew it'll beat the months when btc was 30 bux.
853371;1412169096;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00074348 = 15.9105 BTC [-] {2}
853372;1412170064;mircea_popescu;!up original_discobe
853373;1412170282;mircea_popescu;https://gop.com/happy-anniversary-obamacare/
853374;1412170283;assbot;Happy Anniversary ObamaCare | GOP
853375;1412170284;mircea_popescu;lulzy
853376;1412170710;nubbins`;mostly just boorish and classless
853377;1412170716;nubbins`;but sort of lulzy too, i guess
853378;1412170767;nubbins`;more in the sense of "we are a federal-level political party and our website is full of 'lel you other guise r dummyz' articles"
853379;1412170843;nubbins`;https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/
853380;1412170844;assbot;Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP
853381;1412170934;nubbins`;https://gop.com/nc-black-engagement-to-host-sweet-tea-and-politics-2/
853382;1412170935;assbot;NC Black Engagement To Host Sweet Tea and Politics | GOP
853383;1412170945;mircea_popescu;what's "classless" mean ?
853384;1412170947;nubbins`;"The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
853385;1412170951;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: boorish :/
853386;1412170960;mircea_popescu;uh.
853387;1412170969;nubbins`;i know it technically means something totally different
853388;1412170974;mircea_popescu;you know circular definitions are usually a symptom of deeper problems.
853389;1412170985;nubbins`;but i felt okay with redefining it for my needs
853390;1412171014;nubbins`;"unclassy" sounds so...
853391;1412171015;nubbins`;boorish.
853392;1412171089;mircea_popescu;ok, what;'s classy ?
853393;1412171200;nubbins`;stylish, elegant, refined
853394;1412171213;nubbins`;sophisticated
853395;1412171229;nubbins`;cosmopolitan, even
853396;1412171231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00074345 = 19.6271 BTC [-] {2}
853397;1412171381;nubbins`;!up Diablo-D3
853398;1412171394;Diablo-D3;racist comment of the day
853399;1412171414;Diablo-D3;[09:42:27] "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
853400;1412171428;Diablo-D3;but I thought black people didnt get married?
853401;1412171441;nubbins`;i didn't even think anyone did. it's 2014
853402;1412171488;mircea_popescu;i thought you were married
853403;1412171519;nubbins`;sure, yeah, but since when am i the barometer for sensible behaviour
853404;1412171546;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: how dare you imply I'm black
853405;1412171556;mircea_popescu;anyway, the notion that the mockery of obamacare on the gop's site is unrefined and unstylish is hardly sensible. if they were going for the stylish they'd be in the democratic party.
853406;1412171561;Diablo-D3;oh you implied nubbins` is black
853407;1412171562;Diablo-D3;thats okay
853408;1412171568;mircea_popescu;i did ?
853409;1412171584;Diablo-D3;you implied someone is by virtue of context
853410;1412171594;mircea_popescu;maybe the context ain't as virtuous as you think her.
853411;1412171626;mircea_popescu;in fact, i have it under authority of some people i know that context's a total slut.
853412;1412171635;Diablo-D3;https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/
853413;1412171636;assbot;Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP
853414;1412171644;Diablo-D3;thats just hilarious
853415;1412171678;nubbins`;not as hilarious as reading the logs
853416;1412171689;nubbins`;!s Official George H.W. Bush Socks
853417;1412171689;assbot;1 results for 'Official George H.W. Bush Socks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Official+George+H.W.+Bush+Socks
853418;1412171706;nubbins`;wat? fuck you gribs
853419;1412171719;nubbins`;i mean
853420;1412171727;nubbins`;bbl coffee
853421;1412171801;Diablo-D3;http://www.businessinsider.com/mispronounce-difficult-to-say-brands-2014-9
853422;1412171802;assbot;How To Pronounce Difficult To Say Brands - Business Insider
853423;1412171812;Diablo-D3;most of these brands probably dont exist
853424;1412171813;Diablo-D3;lol.
853425;1412171849;bounce;this vs those socks: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/18/JP-Morgan-Chase-CEO-Wears-Cuff-Links-Obama-Gave-Him-To-Hearing
853426;1412171849;assbot;JP Morgan Chase CEO Wears Cuff Links Obama Gave Him To Hearing
853427;1412171884;Diablo-D3;yeah I dont think obama gave him anything
853428;1412171895;Diablo-D3;its more of obama told his assistant to buy him something
853429;1412171980;*;kakobrekla pronounces brands even more incorrectly intentionally
853430;1412172104;mircea_popescu;lol
853431;1412172451;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10042 @ 0.00074368 = 7.468 BTC [+]
853432;1412172527;kakobrekla;;;google champagne zapp brannigan
853433;1412172528;gribble;I believe it's pronounced champagne - YouTube: ; Zapp Brannigan (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: ; Zapp Brannigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
853434;1412172529;kakobrekla;best.
853435;1412172572;kakobrekla;since i saw this, i try to remember to pronounce it like zapp
853436;1412172816;nubbins`;what degenerate would pronounce the S in Artois?
853437;1412172855;mircea_popescu;lol. ahahha.
853438;1412172934;nubbins`;"some people say baringer ingullum... it's really behringer ingelheim"
853439;1412172936;nubbins`;groan
853440;1412172973;nubbins`;some people say this video was worth watching, it's actually time i'll never get back
853441;1412173047;Diablo-D3;nubbins`: who the fuck would ORDER artois?
853442;1412173056;Diablo-D3;I dont eat things that I cant pronounce.
853443;1412173073;Diablo-D3;also, Ive heard of maybe 3 or 4 brands in that video
853444;1412173074;nubbins`;technically you don't eat beer
853445;1412173080;Diablo-D3;at least 2 of them are bullshit
853446;1412173084;nubbins`;besides, stella's nice. everybody would order one.
853447;1412173092;Diablo-D3;a) if you pronounce porche with the sha, you're a douchebag
853448;1412173109;Diablo-D3;b) no one mispronounces miele, and I live in one of the most uneducated areas of the world
853449;1412173127;nubbins`;america? :D
853450;1412173157;mircea_popescu;Diablo-D3 what do you do in a pharmacy ?
853451;1412173174;mircea_popescu;or do you know how to say propanolol
853452;1412173182;Diablo-D3;lol.
853453;1412173205;mircea_popescu;heh
853454;1412173206;mircea_popescu;!up Diablo-D3
853455;1412173256;mircea_popescu;Diablo-D3 caught in traffic : HOT DAMN! SOMEONE GIVE ME A COMPLEX AROMATIC COMPOUND NOMENCLATURE READING GUIDE
853456;1412173263;mircea_popescu;i'm eating up shit in here i never even heard of!!1
853457;1412173281;*;Diablo-D3 takes away mircea_popescu's crackpipe
853458;1412173297;mircea_popescu;dude at least i can pronounce crack.
853459;1412173317;mircea_popescu;in like 6 languages
853460;1412173574;nubbins`;"In 2001, El Al Airlines decided not to allow ultra-Orthodox Jews cover themselves in plastic because 'flight safety considerations do not allow for passengers to board while covered in sealed plastic bags.'"
853461;1412173783;bounce;"roflolol", "zomgdox", "nsfwclone", "osnappoetin", "yabaizafone", ... WHO stem book meets urban dictionary
853462;1412174087;nubbins`;o hey, they raised the minimum wage here in twodogland today
853463;1412174098;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00074332 = 21.5934 BTC [-] {2}
853464;1412174159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37598 @ 0.00074464 = 27.997 BTC [+] {3}
853465;1412174163;RagnarDanneskjol;fukin looters
853466;1412174374;hanbot;mircea_popescu: dude at least i can pronounce crack. in like 6 languages << allah crackbar?
853467;1412174403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00074317 = 15.0864 BTC [-] {2}
853468;1412174709;mircea_popescu;lmao
853469;1412174817;thickasthieves;thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w
853470;1412174817;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
853471;1412174861;thickasthieves;ftr i used orange and grey before bitcoin
853472;1412175158;nubbins`;grey is the new black
853473;1412175289;ben_vulpes;your pop culture references have been duly noted
853474;1412175501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00074311 = 31.8794 BTC [-] {4}
853475;1412175537;nubbins`;that was a pop culture reference?
853476;1412175542;nubbins`;oh, wait, n/m
853477;1412175560;kakobrekla;!up deedBot
853478;1412175584;kakobrekla;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2
853479;1412175586;deedBot;deed 27AF75321F2489E8 kakobrekla with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853480;1412175586;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2
853481;1412175591;kakobrekla;like dat?
853482;1412175642;nubbins`;ooooooo
853483;1412175658;nubbins`;what happens when the next bundle is ready? :D
853484;1412175667;kakobrekla;bomb i suppose
853485;1412175700;nubbins`;!s deedbot
853486;1412175701;assbot;236 results for 'deedbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot
853487;1412175704;nubbins`;o
853488;1412175822;mircea_popescu;lol teh bomb
853489;1412175848;nubbins`;so what, deedbot just publishes shit to a website?
853490;1412175851;nubbins`;what am i missing here
853491;1412175972;mircea_popescu;the spec lol. only linked like 500 times in the chan
853492;1412175988;mircea_popescu;!s spec
853493;1412175989;assbot;345 results for 'spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spec
853494;1412175992;nubbins`;heh.
853495;1412176000;nubbins`;actually found the github page, reading source now
853496;1412176027;mircea_popescu;nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2014#841838
853497;1412176028;assbot;Logged on 23-09-2014 03:26:15; mircea_popescu: dja recall the spec ?
853498;1412176028;mircea_popescu;there.
853499;1412176110;*;nubbins` nods
853500;1412176117;nubbins`;intredasting
853501;1412176171;thickasthieves;it's annoyng that we cant just put anything in the blockchain
853502;1412176187;nubbins`;if you could, people would be uploading disk images
853503;1412176211;thickasthieves;so have fees
853504;1412176215;nubbins`;it'd be unsyncable on day two
853505;1412176234;nubbins`;what you're describing is dropbox
853506;1412176237;nubbins`;:P
853507;1412176243;thickasthieves;i mean miner fees
853508;1412176254;thickasthieves;proportion to size of your tx
853509;1412176284;nubbins`;that benefits the miners, sure, but it's a huge detriment to everyone else running a node
853510;1412176294;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21010 @ 0.00074511 = 15.6548 BTC [+]
853511;1412176294;thickasthieves;so make node fees
853512;1412176300;nubbins`;"oh, shit, another 25TB to sync today"
853513;1412176313;thickasthieves;25TB might cost 1000btc though
853514;1412176330;nubbins`;so goat pays 1000btc and now the blockchain is 25TB larger, forever
853515;1412176343;nubbins`;to the detriment of everyone
853516;1412176353;thickasthieves;stop stopping my dreams!
853517;1412176361;nubbins`;logic stops them!
853518;1412176372;thickasthieves;i'm just not dreaming hard enough
853519;1412176395;nubbins`;i think you're dreaming too hard as it is
853520;1412176398;bounce;doesn't "datacoin" try and allow for arbitrary chain storage?
853521;1412176410;Apocalyptic;yeah, that's even what it was designed for
853522;1412176416;nubbins`;gross
853523;1412176421;thickasthieves;i dont see how it would avoid problems mentioned
853524;1412176446;Apocalyptic;thickasthieves, nobody said it does
853525;1412176471;*;nubbins` imagines early adopter cashing out all datacoin, uploading massive file to blockchain as final act
853526;1412176488;kakobrekla;of CP
853527;1412176599;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50662 @ 0.00074764 = 37.8769 BTC [+] {3}
853528;1412176669;mircea_popescu;lol
853529;1412176879;deedBot;Bundled: 63581bfec02108fa941af106057dfdc3747fb0d3babbb334d95fff1da1b87406-1DYriNQB4tjyYMdXP8C3eWwFdzR8WVV4fc.txt
853530;1412177079;pete_dushenski;http://line-mode.cern.ch/www/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
853531;1412177079;assbot;The World Wide Web project
853532;1412177102;pete_dushenski;^"first website" from 1991
853533;1412177109;pete_dushenski;le fun!
853534;1412177249;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedBot
853535;1412177374;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. << and no one with less free time than north americans. how, i ask you, are we all "americans" ?
853536;1412177417;thickasthieves;http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iphonegun2.jpg
853537;1412177513;bounce;that's a good way to get yourself shot
853538;1412177621;asciilifeform;even without enemy. phone rings, draw, put to head - but drew from wrong holster.
853539;1412177633;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european
853540;1412177641;mircea_popescu;it's one continent after all :D
853541;1412177657;thickasthieves;what a guy cant own gun-shaped things without getting shot?
853542;1412177686;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ?
853543;1412177699;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit.
853544;1412177725;mircea_popescu;the chinese are about as european as teh jooz.
853545;1412177739;pete_dushenski;khans spread ideas, tech between the two
853546;1412177743;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, google now sends me traffic for searches like "cum sa faci bani ca un evreu", ie, how to make $$$ like a joo.
853547;1412177754;pete_dushenski;lol wow
853548;1412177775;pete_dushenski;… that you're using google, that is
853549;1412177810;pete_dushenski;s/joo/buffett and you have north american ads.
853550;1412177834;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski no i mean, to trilema. search traffic.
853551;1412177918;pete_dushenski;o i c
853552;1412177942;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;)
853553;1412178233;thickasthieves;http://www.pfhub.com/eu-says-apple-incs-irish-tax-deal-is-illegal-1240/
853554;1412178234;assbot;EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal
853555;1412178490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31906 @ 0.00074999 = 23.9292 BTC [+]
853556;1412179100;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22095 @ 0.00074635 = 16.4906 BTC [-]
853557;1412180236;kakobrekla;deedBot needs to be registered with nickserv
853558;1412180379;dignork;mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case.
853559;1412180443;mircea_popescu;how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people.
853560;1412180452;mircea_popescu;texas used to have "enstrangement of affection" but it's gone.
853561;1412180489;mircea_popescu;!up dxrt
853562;1412180549;dignork;i mean side-attack: using the recording to blackmail others - payments for non-disclosure
853563;1412180632;dignork;could be avoided if we form pair keys, each one with court key, 2 out of 2 to redeem, but this also has different properties
853564;1412180852;mircea_popescu;oh, for non disclosure
853565;1412180860;mircea_popescu;who gives a shit, cunts want to be seen.
853566;1412181907;TomServo;http://www.shitexpress.com/
853567;1412181907;assbot;Shitexpress · Send a shit in a package around the world
853568;1412182253;RagnarDanneskjol;very nice
853569;1412182577;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47162 @ 0.00074975 = 35.3597 BTC [+] {3}
853570;1412182705;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century?
853571;1412182946;jurov;!t m f.mpif
853572;1412182946;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00020614 / 0.00021257 / 0.000219 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC)
853573;1412182970;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski moar like ww2.
853574;1412182972;jurov;pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too
853575;1412183021;pete_dushenski;a ty
853576;1412183063;jurov;Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere?
853577;1412183074;jurov;i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there
853578;1412183098;pete_dushenski;"If you can imagine it, you can create it with Headway Themes Framework (http://semperfiwebdesign.com/headway/) . The intuitive drag and drop visual editor makes it easy for a newbie or a hobbyist to custom build a great design but also doesn't get in the way of a more experienced designer or developer!"
853579;1412183113;mircea_popescu;jurov not documented yet, but would be a good thing to do.
853580;1412183122;mircea_popescu;and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go.
853581;1412183370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00074635 = 7.3478 BTC [-]
853582;1412183610;RagnarDanneskjol;jurov - http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/
853583;1412183611;assbot;DEEDS
853584;1412183750;RagnarDanneskjol;oh - I misread your Q
853585;1412183773;RagnarDanneskjol;https://github.com/bitrecruiter/deedBot
853586;1412183774;assbot;bitrecruiter/deedBot GitHub
853587;1412183784;jurov;i see... clicked and wtf is this? :D
853588;1412183802;RagnarDanneskjol;he redid much of it since the last commits
853589;1412183809;jurov;lol i have to reverse engineeer it?
853590;1412183832;RagnarDanneskjol;I'm gonna keep everything @ deedbot.com starting in a few days
853591;1412183858;RagnarDanneskjol;I'm already working with a coupla guys to get it done in pyth
853592;1412183879;bounce;such haste
853593;1412183899;jurov;RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs?
853594;1412183916;RagnarDanneskjol;usable as in?
853595;1412183932;jurov;as in something i can follow
853596;1412183940;RagnarDanneskjol;regarding
853597;1412183947;jurov;regarding putting a deed on
853598;1412183950;RagnarDanneskjol;OH
853599;1412183960;RagnarDanneskjol;demo sure pls standby
853600;1412183968;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedBot
853601;1412184042;jurov;deedbot demo (nm, just bookmarking for later search)
853602;1412184061;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
853603;1412184063;deedBot;deed B98228A001ABFFC7 asciilifeform with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853604;1412184063;deedBot;deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853605;1412184063;deedBot;Found 2 valid deeds in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
853606;1412184090;deedBot;Bundled: 21d5bb1d9e68af011117813f3684c84bb33348da85fb51f8b55d62ec128fa912-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt
853607;1412184090;RagnarDanneskjol;now wait until the top of the hour, will report bundled deed once its done
853608;1412184107;RagnarDanneskjol;.dump
853609;1412184107;deedBot;time=1412184106 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=17
853610;1412184108;deedBot;DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)
853611;1412184111;RagnarDanneskjol;.balance
853612;1412184111;deedBot;deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
853613;1412184111;deedBot;deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000
853614;1412184122;jurov;that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such?
853615;1412184164;RagnarDanneskjol;someones will fund the seed address in advance
853616;1412184172;RagnarDanneskjol;or autofountain was discussed
853617;1412184189;xanthyos;about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find
853618;1412184225;jurov;thx
853619;1412184230;RagnarDanneskjol;mhmm
853620;1412184383;jurov;RagnarDanneskjol: i suggest immediate publishing of deeds as paid service
853621;1412184407;jurov;will fund itself then
853622;1412184416;jurov;sry if that was already discussed
853623;1412184464;RagnarDanneskjol;the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year
853624;1412184534;RagnarDanneskjol;as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc
853625;1412184956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.00074537 = 22.812 BTC [-] {2}
853626;1412185195;jurov;.deed http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc
853627;1412185196;deedBot;deed 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 jurov with 1 signature valid in next bundle
853628;1412185196;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc
853629;1412185291;jurov;.dump
853630;1412185291;deedBot;time=1412185291 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=1202
853631;1412185292;deedBot;DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)
853632;1412185376;RagnarDanneskjol;jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left
853633;1412185389;RagnarDanneskjol;1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
853634;1412185397;jurov;;;ident RagnarDanneskjol
853635;1412185398;gribble;Nick 'RagnarDanneskjol', with hostmask 'RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'RagnarDanneskjol', with GPG key id 35D2E1A0457E6498, key fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6
853636;1412185402;jurov;okay
853637;1412185410;RagnarDanneskjol;i do not control the wallet
853638;1412185416;RagnarDanneskjol;MolokoDesk does
853639;1412185442;thickasthieves;what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts"
853640;1412185457;thickasthieves;seems like they just want you to order printed versions
853641;1412185483;jurov;i guess you did not gave me forged address
853642;1412185540;RagnarDanneskjol;.balance
853643;1412185541;deedBot;deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
853644;1412185541;deedBot;deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000
853645;1412185595;RagnarDanneskjol;oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left
853646;1412185665;jurov;add that info to balance?
853647;1412185673;RagnarDanneskjol;good idea
853648;1412185712;RagnarDanneskjol;will push request onto git
853649;1412185810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00074989 = 1.1353 BTC [+]
853650;1412185823;TomServo;!up deedBot
853651;1412185839;TomServo;!up deedBot
853652;1412186375;jurov;wanted to check if my trezor still works, so sent half a bitcent to deedbot
853653;1412186390;jurov;what i found out:
853654;1412186415;jurov;1. mytrezor.com stopped working under linux (worked before in ff/konq)
853655;1412186449;jurov;2. if you create tx, enter a PIN then cancel the transaction
853656;1412186462;jurov;then next transaction won't require pin
853657;1412186473;asciilifeform;'For the love of God, Montrezor!'
853658;1412186483;asciilifeform;!s Montrezor
853659;1412186483;assbot;3 results for 'Montrezor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Montrezor
853660;1412187098;jurov;.dump
853661;1412187098;deedBot;time=1412187098 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=3009
853662;1412187098;deedBot;DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)
853663;1412187297;penguirker;New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/01/F.MPIF-September-2014-trading-statement
853664;1412188191;RagnarDanneskjol;!up RagnarsBitch
853665;1412188251;DoctorBTC;Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone...
853666;1412188285;DoctorBTC;(and you guys in b-a are like the smartest people in the universe...)
853667;1412188725;jaycutler6969;DoctorBTC are you fred ehrsam ?
853668;1412188769;jaycutler6969;https://twitter.com/FEhrsam/status/501826516829741056
853669;1412188770;assbot;What is a compelling stat comparing growth in an environment of permission less innovation vs a similar one with friction?
853670;1412188771;DoctorBTC;jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no
853671;1412188777;jaycutler6969;k
853672;1412188791;jaycutler6969;just similar question
853673;1412188822;DoctorBTC;you're right... just coincidence
853674;1412188831;Dimsler;coin incidence
853675;1412188854;*;DoctorBTC taps a rimshot...
853676;1412189075;punkman;DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... <- what kind of systems
853677;1412189092;jaycutler6969;DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak
853678;1412189175;Dimsler;DoctorBTC, bittorrent
853679;1412189177;jurov;i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization
853680;1412189189;Dimsler;actually online piracy
853681;1412189193;Dimsler;would be the best example
853682;1412189270;Dimsler;then you can just cite %90 of all economies trading in gold shekels before the 1800s
853683;1412189499;DoctorBTC;punkman: i was thinking about historically... perhaps things in nature, civilization, businesses.
853684;1412189529;Dimsler;nature is always decentralized
853685;1412189550;Dimsler;you know what, your question blows
853686;1412189610;DoctorBTC;i know :P
853687;1412189703;DoctorBTC;I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along.
853688;1412191262;thickasthieves;punkman, cities/countries make good examples
853689;1412191270;thickasthieves;EU sux
853690;1412191275;thickasthieves;small country does not
853691;1412191294;thickasthieves;also i see decentralization as a phenomenon or design choice for a system
853692;1412191300;thickasthieves;not better or worse in and of itself
853693;1412191385;thickasthieves;oh wait it was doctorbtc that asked
853694;1412191447;thickasthieves;<+Dimsler> nature is always decentralized /// depends what you mean by nature
853695;1412191467;thickasthieves;centralization is order
853696;1412191475;thickasthieves;order can naturally occur and does
853697;1412191487;Dimsler;man made order is chaos
853698;1412191494;Dimsler;just like centralization
853699;1412191499;thickasthieves;if youre trying to be cute, sure
853700;1412191501;thickasthieves;but, no
853701;1412191523;thickasthieves;manmade order is intervention
853702;1412191562;Dimsler;you're argueing semantics at best.
853703;1412191592;thickasthieves;op asked for examples/definition
853704;1412191595;thickasthieves;i am trying
853705;1412191653;thickasthieves;youre the one that said manmade is chaos
853706;1412191669;Dimsler;it is
853707;1412191692;thickasthieves;and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false
853708;1412191710;thickasthieves;to create is to make order
853709;1412191713;Dimsler;how do you articulate that
853710;1412191719;Dimsler;since it interjects in natural order
853711;1412191737;Dimsler;which is the undeniable foundation of life
853712;1412191756;thickasthieves;?
853713;1412191762;thickasthieves;youre out there man
853714;1412191769;thickasthieves;not sure if i can reel you in
853715;1412191783;Dimsler;lol
853716;1412191784;thickasthieves;chaos doesnt mean "bad"
853717;1412191790;Dimsler;nobody said it did
853718;1412191795;thickasthieves;you just did
853719;1412191826;thickasthieves;saying it disrupts natural, which is "undeniable foundation of life
853720;1412191830;Dimsler;man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad
853721;1412191871;Dimsler;sure, but using penecillin to interject as a form of medicine is also a disruption
853722;1412191891;thickasthieves;you are talking about effects
853723;1412191909;Dimsler;interjection in natural order
853724;1412191917;thickasthieves;whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects
853725;1412191930;Dimsler;thats right
853726;1412191935;thickasthieves;chaos can cause order too
853727;1412191949;Dimsler;again back to semantics
853728;1412191953;Dimsler;lol
853729;1412191964;thickasthieves;lol this guy
853730;1412191973;thickasthieves;what does this mean? no that's semantics!
853731;1412191987;punkman;;;wp entropy
853732;1412191988;gribble;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy | In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly ...
853733;1412192063;thickasthieves;;;wd semantic
853734;1412192063;gribble;Error: "wd" is not a valid command.
853735;1412192070;thickasthieves;''wp semantic
853736;1412192074;thickasthieves;...
853737;1412192081;thickasthieves;;;wp semantic
853738;1412192082;gribble;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ...
853739;1412192087;Dimsler;;;wd semantics
853740;1412192087;gribble;Error: "wd" is not a valid command.
853741;1412192115;thickasthieves;cant explore meaning without being semantic
853742;1412192131;Dimsler;the meaning was already expressed
853743;1412192158;thickasthieves;and i disagreed with it
853744;1412192170;Dimsler;no you didn't, you went and agreed with it
853745;1412192182;thickasthieves;troll time is over
853746;1412192207;Dimsler;i thought it was pb and j time?
853747;1412192394;thickasthieves;maybe it's decentralization is a defensive quality, centralization is an aggressive/offensive one
853748;1412192772;punkman;anyone use this thing http://grsecurity.net/ ?
853749;1412192772;assbot;grsecurity
853750;1412192957;mircea_popescu;mnope.
853751;1412193061;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there.
853752;1412193070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00074375 = 24.7862 BTC [-] {2}
853753;1412193101;mircea_popescu;jurov: sry if that was already discussed << it was, yea.
853754;1412193159;mircea_popescu;jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security.
853755;1412193181;mircea_popescu;DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here.
853756;1412193188;mircea_popescu;i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved.
853757;1412193390;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
853758;1412193392;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 384.31, Best ask: 385.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 385.44, 24 hour volume: 15008.52128967, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.228051414
853759;1412193415;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/01/were-leading-you-away-from-golden-calves-and-towards-happiness/
853760;1412193447;pete_dushenski;^little bit of kant for your wednesday afternoon :D
853761;1412193472;*;danielpbarron slaps Dimsler around a bit with a decentralized trout
853762;1412193501;Dimsler;must worship mammon
853763;1412193574;mircea_popescu;can't we worship mammaries instead ?
853764;1412193581;Dimsler;only big ones
853765;1412193595;Dimsler;itty bitty titty committee need not apply
853766;1412193621;pete_dushenski;DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << ya, torrents, blogs, non-soviet restaurants
853767;1412193657;mircea_popescu;sex!
853768;1412194085;mircea_popescu;"During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston."
853769;1412194087;mircea_popescu;dem brits.
853770;1412194155;Dimsler;http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg
853771;1412194216;mircea_popescu;.balance
853772;1412194224;mircea_popescu;!up deedBot
853773;1412194227;mircea_popescu;.balance
853774;1412194228;deedBot;deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
853775;1412194240;mircea_popescu;eh.
853776;1412194322;pete_dushenski;Dimsler: lulz
853777;1412194902;deedBot;Bundled:
853778;1412194966;nubbins`;so
853779;1412194989;nubbins`;by what method is the deed hashed to obtain the privkey / address?
853780;1412195027;nubbins`;or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y?
853781;1412195118;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx.
853782;1412195137;mircea_popescu;punkman tho says this doesn't work and molokodesk hasn't been back to clarify.
853783;1412195145;mircea_popescu;might need some more work there.
853784;1412195153;nubbins`;yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing
853785;1412195296;nubbins`;ah, found it
853786;1412195296;nubbins`;http://dpaste.com/2ZSJKRG
853787;1412195297;assbot;dpaste: 2ZSJKRG
853788;1412195350;nubbins`;at first glance, this function seems to be a bit wanky
853789;1412195379;mircea_popescu;myeah
853790;1412195385;mircea_popescu;this needs a rewrite
853791;1412195559;mircea_popescu;if anyone's looking for how to go key->address, https://github.com/weex/addrgen is probably a good example implementation
853792;1412195560;assbot;weex/addrgen GitHub
853793;1412195599;nubbins`;ah, i was looking for a bare-bones implementation of this the other day
853794;1412195654;punkman;you just need an ecdsa library and base58
853795;1412195714;hanbot;kinda cool to have an implementation made to be broken.
853796;1412195743;hanbot;who knows what may get discovered
853797;1412195781;nubbins`;a nice companion tool on the deeds website would be a small form w/ textbox and button where one can generate pub/priv keys by the same method
853798;1412195800;hanbot;website genberated private key?
853799;1412195853;nubbins`;only if you have no idea how to properly give your web server access to sensitive data ;/
853800;1412195897;nubbins`;as it is right now, i register a deed, some bot sends a few satoshis to an address, and i just sort of hope that this isn't just a random tx
853801;1412195961;nubbins`;because there's no easy way for me to verify that the priv/pub keys were, in fact, generated from the text of the deed
853802;1412195961;hanbot;oh you mean you don't want to actually do the work of verifying and would rather rely on the website's claim?
853803;1412195983;*;nubbins` groans
853804;1412195988;nubbins`;yeah. that's what i mean.
853805;1412195996;hanbot;:)
853806;1412196036;nubbins`;if i'm doing the work of verifying, i might as well just publish my own fucking deed, no?
853807;1412196081;hanbot;for your own use you mean?
853808;1412196091;nubbins`;let's back up a few steps.
853809;1412196099;nubbins`;what, in your mind, is the utility of deedbot?
853810;1412196134;mike_c;the utility is to be able to verify you said something specific in the past.
853811;1412196135;hanbot;that nubbins puts a deed there and someone else verifies the hashing (through, i understand, spending the input).
853812;1412196187;hanbot;mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh?
853813;1412196190;nubbins`;okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there?
853814;1412196192;hanbot;a random digit or two or three.
853815;1412196211;nubbins`;why am i getting a bot to do it for me?
853816;1412196218;dignork;why not just verifying btc address equality to deed's hash?
853817;1412196243;hanbot;nubbins`, why do you use gribble for that matter, you could just sneakernet to nanotube
853818;1412196253;nubbins`;because gribble is convenient.
853819;1412196260;hanbot;right.
853820;1412196273;nubbins`;just like deedbot would be convenient, if i could use it to verify that the right address has been generated.
853821;1412196275;hanbot;also because it's what happens to be used.
853822;1412196283;hanbot;but it could lie to you.
853823;1412196301;nubbins`;it sure could!
853824;1412196306;mike_c;brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one.
853825;1412196311;mike_c;not so with deed registry
853826;1412196319;nubbins`;that's why we all keep our own files, and we don't use ;;gettrust or ;;ident, right?
853827;1412196334;nubbins`;mike_c: what?
853828;1412196346;hanbot;mike_c, that's a good point!
853829;1412196378;mike_c;i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them.
853830;1412196392;nubbins`;how is this different from just registering a few different deeds?
853831;1412196404;mike_c;i would be able to look at registry and see you prepped a few messages.
853832;1412196406;punkman;you can diy
853833;1412196409;punkman;same thing
853834;1412196423;nubbins`;and i'd be able to look at the blockchain and see you prepped a few messages
853835;1412196425;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00074568 = 9.4701 BTC [+]
853836;1412196451;nubbins`;luckily, when we shook hands, we both new which btc address was the one we were using
853837;1412196462;nubbins`;so it doesn't matter how many extra statements the other party created.
853838;1412196468;nubbins`;*knew
853839;1412196480;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i dun get it. what's inconvenient ?
853840;1412196512;nubbins`;mircea_popescu it's inconvenient for me to verify that deedbot has registered my actual deed, instead of, say, $rand
853841;1412196513;mircea_popescu;hanbot holy shit how did you figure that one out ?
853842;1412196519;mircea_popescu;nubbins` why ?
853843;1412196543;nubbins`;because i don't have any tools with which to verify it
853844;1412196546;mircea_popescu;copy/paste the code on its github in your fav ide and run it.
853845;1412196546;punkman;because I didn't write the verifier script yet
853846;1412196559;nubbins`;yeah yeah
853847;1412196566;nubbins`;my fave IDE is the deedbot website tho
853848;1412196577;mircea_popescu;nubbins` your idea is broken because if the site will hash $rand it could as well print the "verification" for it.
853849;1412196606;nubbins`;it could indeed, yep
853850;1412196608;mircea_popescu;this is why you don't get your certificate from the same party you get the goods.
853851;1412196615;mircea_popescu;so there's no way to eschew a little work here.
853852;1412196622;hanbot;mircea_popescu ;)
853853;1412196624;BingoBoingo;Oh I thought Deedbot was using bundle hashes as pub keys and letting privates remain a mystery
853854;1412196639;nubbins`;BingoBoingo that'd be quite the trick
853855;1412196639;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo no. private keys. so that lazy people can at least see the input was spent
853856;1412196645;punkman;BingoBoingo: that's what it does now
853857;1412196648;mircea_popescu;and figure hey, *SOMEONE* musta verified this
853858;1412196666;mircea_popescu;punkman you wanna fix this btw ?
853859;1412196728;mircea_popescu;!up sensorii
853860;1412196970;pete_dushenski;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-deposits-debt-payment-defying-us-judge-142317168.html
853861;1412196972;assbot;Argentina deposits debt payment, defying US judge - Yahoo Finance
853862;1412196994;punkman;mircea_popescu: not rly, maybe I'd be up for rewriting it into a supybot plugin
853863;1412197121;mircea_popescu;punkman that may be an idea, actually.
853864;1412197246;mircea_popescu;!up CheckDavid
853865;1412197291;CheckDavid;Thanks mircea_popescu
853866;1412197314;CheckDavid;Any businesses looking to hire or professionals looking for a job in the bitcoin community around here?
853867;1412197457;mircea_popescu;kinda too vague.
853868;1412197462;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9436 @ 0.00074568 = 7.0362 BTC [+]
853869;1412197464;bounce;you got anything specific in mind, other than starting your own brand new shiny recruitment agency?
853870;1412197487;CheckDavid;mircea_popescu: is it bad to be vague?
853871;1412197494;CheckDavid;Its kind of the point.
853872;1412197516;mircea_popescu;noun atribute verb complement in response to your inquiry.
853873;1412197534;CheckDavid;You lost me there
853874;1412197539;mircea_popescu;exactly.
853875;1412197575;punkman;also "bitcoin community" carries certain negative connotations around here
853876;1412197580;CheckDavid;Lol bounce what else would I have in mind?
853877;1412197618;CheckDavid;punkman: oh really? Is the btc community so big that it is already seen as a bunch of maniacs looks for a quick profit or something?
853878;1412197673;mircea_popescu;nah, "bitcoin community" is where the disco crowd moved, now that travolta's had his sex change operation.
853879;1412197701;mircea_popescu;;;google disco boy
853880;1412197701;gribble;Shantel DISKO BOY - YouTube: ; Frank Zappa - Disco Boy - YouTube: ; Shantel Disco boy (LYRICS) - YouTube:
853881;1412197708;*;bounce does not particularly like recruiters.
853882;1412197720;mircea_popescu;bounce bad history ?
853883;1412197727;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: Know any university libraries hiring a BTC librarian?
853884;1412197798;jurov;!s stone soup
853885;1412197799;assbot;5 results for 'stone soup' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stone+soup
853886;1412197813;jurov;^ not his first time
853887;1412197816;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo maybe i'm way off the mark here, but if you ran a university wouldn't you hire your own cocksucker as a librarian ?
853888;1412197834;CheckDavid;BingoBoingo: just for reference. What do you understand by the term BTC librarian?
853889;1412197857;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Nah, you hire the cocksuckers as Deans
853890;1412197892;mircea_popescu;Deanna the Cocksucking Dean and the Mysterious Alien Fanged Pie
853891;1412197895;mircea_popescu;i'd watch that.
853892;1412197921;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: University wants a librarian working in the reference Department specializing in Bitcoin information resources. Someone will be hiring for that by 2024.
853893;1412197974;CheckDavid;BingoBoingo: if CoinHR is still around by 2023 we will do our best to get you a position
853894;1412197983;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: Thanks
853895;1412197985;CheckDavid;:D
853896;1412197994;BingoBoingo;I plan to be around that long.
853897;1412198003;BingoBoingo;Even though my hitpoints are finite
853898;1412198004;CheckDavid;Actually that's a cool job.
853899;1412198015;CheckDavid;Not much stress in a library
853900;1412198023;BingoBoingo;Oh, there can be
853901;1412198035;CheckDavid;Yes there csn
853902;1412198037;CheckDavid;*can
853903;1412198054;BingoBoingo;Last couple weeks at the end of the semester when people need to write all of those paper they put on the backburner.
853904;1412198068;CheckDavid;Lol
853905;1412198097;CheckDavid;By the way. In the meantime would you like to be considered for other possibly similar positions?
853906;1412198099;BingoBoingo;At some point their paper requires information that isn't readily googleavle
853907;1412198115;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: At the moment I'm working on getting as extended as I can.
853908;1412198127;CheckDavid;Extended?
853909;1412198131;bounce;HR in general is fantastibad at handling candidates. recruiters amazingly aren't better, though it's what they do all day.
853910;1412198131;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
853911;1412198169;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: You know, my time could be pushed to the max if something discussed here goes through.
853912;1412198190;CheckDavid;Oh I see
853913;1412198252;BingoBoingo;Some sort of Australasian Journalism Startup with rabbits.
853914;1412198269;CheckDavid;Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia?
853915;1412198277;mircea_popescu;bounce all my experiences with hr are under the sheets.
853916;1412198280;CheckDavid;Not sure about Asia
853917;1412198285;mircea_popescu;pretty hot chicks.
853918;1412198300;mircea_popescu;i guess i missed a resource pun in there huh
853919;1412198329;BingoBoingo;CheckDavid: Well sure. Doesn't mean they aren't delicious though. What better way to fight an endangered species than with cornbread stuffing and a pad of butter?
853920;1412198331;CheckDavid;Lol
853921;1412198379;BingoBoingo;So personal blog just got a referral from Bing for the term "dystopian bingo"
853922;1412198379;CheckDavid;Man no idea. I think that's illegal.
853923;1412198404;bounce;yes, well, not quite the same as being on the phone to some guy, getting fobbed off because you called them and they didn't call you. (literally, yes)
853924;1412198420;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo put it in librarian cv!
853925;1412198434;mircea_popescu;bounce why would you call them anyway.
853926;1412198444;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It goes in the evil Librarian CV
853927;1412198514;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-smpoe-september-2014-statement/
853928;1412198516;bounce;or sending a message inquiring about a specific job to a "hi! we're new and exciting!" bunch, never getting an answer but ending up thorougly on their spamlist with their wonderful! new! exciting! candidate matching system. they kept on spamming business intelligence jobs because in the "profile" they'd cooked up for me without permission was "DEBIAN" somewhere. that's how good they were.
853929;1412198534;mircea_popescu;SAMSUNG GT-S7500/S7500BUMB1 Build/GINGERBREAD << motherfucker samsung and its capslock
853930;1412198579;mircea_popescu;bounce well yes but this speaks more to the "seo expert/web2.0 designer/bitcoin communitard/social expert" crowd of white nigerian kids floating around aimlessly
853931;1412198582;mircea_popescu;than to hr per se.
853932;1412198614;mircea_popescu;if tomorrow it becomes fashionable for them to pretend like they're car salesmen, that won't be the #1 reason car salesmen suck
853933;1412198621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00074638 = 22.3168 BTC [+]
853934;1412198688;bounce;if there's any recruiter in the IT space doing better than that, I haven't seen'em.
853935;1412198695;mircea_popescu;course that's easier in theory than in practice. i know i'm making real efforts to not start hating gays just because these fucktards imagine they can claim it in their doomed but vapid quest for appearing speshul.
853936;1412198792;mircea_popescu;bounce that may be a numbers game. in a workin economy there's call for maybe 1 worker in 1k ? 10k ? doing hr. in the us like 1/5 of the work force is employed doing that. prima facie your odds are 99.x% of dealing with an impostor.
853937;1412198895;bounce;dunno if the scores I contacted, tried to anyway, were all impostors. all in europe, though. all over europe.
853938;1412198920;mircea_popescu;what were you trying to get anyway ?
853939;1412199039;bounce;something ITish. programming, sysadmin, netadmin, you name it. as long as it involves a unix and not windows. (Oh yes, the "not enough unix on the CV" girl, when half a dozen flavours listed. sheesh.)
853940;1412199073;bounce;anyway, I stopped talking to recruiters a long time ago. just not worth the hassle.
853941;1412199141;dub;theres likely to a be a problem right there
853942;1412199164;mircea_popescu;bounce hm, it really shouldn't be that hard.
853943;1412199179;dub;Hi im bounce, I'd liek to be a programmer, or a bullfighter, or an ASTRONAUT!
853944;1412199181;bounce;could be the problem is that these are "social" people, and think nothing of a "white lie"... that IT people tend to see, in their mind's eye, flagged in neon red and yellow, marked "untruth!"
853945;1412199182;mircea_popescu;does linux even have half a dozen flavours ?
853946;1412199189;dub;i wouldnt get back to you either
853947;1412199190;mircea_popescu;deb, rhel and gentoo. what else ?
853948;1412199204;mircea_popescu;dub lion tamer ?
853949;1412199270;bounce;linux has scores of flavours, but I think I maybe listed two
853950;1412199287;mircea_popescu;a nm, you said unix.
853951;1412199342;dub;Cause like, im a gamer, so I know computers
853952;1412199395;mircea_popescu;speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?
853953;1412199504;*;bounce has much, much less trouble with people that do have some unixy background. such people don't end up lying through their teeth "nicing up" word documents all day.
853954;1412199537;dub;well guess waht, NOBODY vetting yoru CV has unix backbround, ever
853955;1412199555;BingoBoingo;!up deedBot
853956;1412199561;BingoBoingo;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR
853957;1412199565;deedBot;deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
853958;1412199565;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR
853959;1412199583;mircea_popescu;BOGUS!
853960;1412199585;mircea_popescu;!up CoJaBo
853961;1412199694;BingoBoingo;.deed http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR
853962;1412199694;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
853963;1412199695;deedBot;deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
853964;1412199695;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR
853965;1412199695;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
853966;1412199713;dub;the trick is tailoring your approach for the asshole you are applying to
853967;1412199729;mircea_popescu;that sad day when your server log for a month is 3.9mn lines ;/
853968;1412199771;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/01/atc-trading-september-2014-statement/
853969;1412199850;mircea_popescu;that even sadder day when you think to yourself what the shit, 4mn lines shouldn't take that long only to notice that the digits were so numerous you actually missed one
853970;1412200428;bounce;!up pentestr
853971;1412200445;pentestr;thanks bounce
853972;1412200461;deedBot;deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
853973;1412200462;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/9tkEJ3RW
853974;1412200463;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
853975;1412200476;pentestr;I found some critical vulnerabilities on BitBet.us, they said we can discuss with the staff on this channel?
853976;1412200493;Dimsler;yes
853977;1412200507;Dimsler;only if you answer the secret question correctly
853978;1412200519;pentestr;Dimsler: and that is?
853979;1412200520;Dimsler;sabrina salerno or samantha fox?
853980;1412200525;pentestr;lol
853981;1412200529;pentestr;im being serious at the moment
853982;1412200575;pentestr;AND SOMEBODY KICK this sam0 guy. or better, ban him.
853983;1412200576;pentestr;ugh
853984;1412200589;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, you have a customer
853985;1412200609;mircea_popescu;yea srsly.
853986;1412200620;mircea_popescu;pentestr go ahead.
853987;1412200631;mircea_popescu;;;later tell samO fix your connection will you.
853988;1412200632;gribble;The operation succeeded.
853989;1412200649;pentestr;mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted
853990;1412200673;Dimsler;through which exploit?
853991;1412200698;pentestr;buffer overflow through a dangling pointer as well as possible sqli
853992;1412200714;Dimsler;ehhhhh
853993;1412200726;pentestr;but i don't think that this would be the right place to discuss?
853994;1412200730;mircea_popescu;pentestr well, can you demonstrate this ?
853995;1412200744;pentestr;to hack into your website?
853996;1412200745;pentestr;sure
853997;1412200753;Dimsler;i think you'd have a tough time doing stack overflows on apache
853998;1412200769;Dimsler;curious my self
853999;1412200771;mircea_popescu;pentestr put your nick in there or something.
854000;1412200781;pentestr;setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website
854001;1412200781;assbot;Not Found
854002;1412200795;mircea_popescu;;;ident
854003;1412200795;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
854004;1412200797;pentestr;i dont want you pressing charges later on
854005;1412200801;mircea_popescu;that should be good enough.
854006;1412200803;Dimsler;pentestr, hes the owner
854007;1412200806;pentestr;not really
854008;1412200807;Dimsler;and this channel is pretty secure
854009;1412200807;pentestr;its not
854010;1412200825;mircea_popescu;well unless kako shows up this'll have to wait then.
854011;1412200835;pentestr;your call
854012;1412200843;pentestr;im online for another hour or so
854013;1412200845;thickasthieves;someone was giving out bitcoin jobs and i missed it?
854014;1412200851;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves just your luck.
854015;1412200864;Dimsler;thickasthieves, yes but they pay in litecoins
854016;1412200875;bounce;how about a PoC in gpg email to kako then?
854017;1412200883;BingoBoingo;.deed http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu
854018;1412200883;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
854019;1412200883;deedBot;deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
854020;1412200883;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu
854021;1412200884;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
854022;1412200917;Dimsler;i wonder if it'll overflow enough for an sqli injection
854023;1412200926;mircea_popescu;yeah, what bounce said. or in a pastebin, you can gpg it to my key.
854024;1412200931;mircea_popescu;pentestr ^
854025;1412200958;pentestr;bounce: nah, that'll just give you the vuln to fix.. i'll just hack it, he gave me perms after all.
854026;1412200973;bounce;heaven forbid the problem gets fixed
854027;1412200990;mircea_popescu;bounce maybe the guy's new here.
854028;1412201025;thickasthieves;shouldnt the hack be to mess with the logo? wasnt that the old bounty?
854029;1412201036;thickasthieves;make it say Got Doge?
854030;1412201041;pentestr;whats the bounty amount?
854031;1412201045;Dimsler;dogestyle
854032;1412201048;bounce;IP from india, language typical for a <20y/o 1337 PHPer... sure.
854033;1412201062;thickasthieves;it may have been a bet
854034;1412201070;mircea_popescu;shit there was a logo bounty ages ago wasn't there.
854035;1412201070;Dimsler;yeah cause everyone uses there real country / ip in here
854036;1412201071;Dimsler;lol
854037;1412201072;mircea_popescu;got a link thickasthieves ?
854038;1412201089;pentestr;bounce: socks 5
854039;1412201091;thickasthieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
854040;1412201091;assbot;BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 :: 10.5 B (98%) on Yes, 0.2 B (2%) on No | closed 9 months 1 week ago
854041;1412201117;mircea_popescu;o that. myeah.
854042;1412201118;thickasthieves;dunno if you did a bounty on trilema
854043;1412201127;thickasthieves;doubt it
854044;1412201131;mircea_popescu;no lol. dumbass wordpress, i wouldn't bounty a wart on it
854045;1412201151;thickasthieves;i mean about butbet
854046;1412201182;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema hack bitbet bounty
854047;1412201183;gribble;The anatomy of a scam. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; S.MG - The Ministry of Games. - Bitcoin Forum:
854048;1412201188;mircea_popescu;apparently niet.
854049;1412201192;pentestr;bounce: you got the age right though
854050;1412201219;Dimsler;nio
854051;1412201223;Dimsler;its not possible
854052;1412201236;mircea_popescu;famous last words ?
854053;1412201237;Dimsler;won't be able to do the sqli injection
854054;1412201255;thickasthieves;pentestr shoulda made a bitbet then contacted you
854055;1412201261;Dimsler;LOL
854056;1412201273;thickasthieves;no one knows how to entrepreneur these days
854057;1412201280;thickasthieves;:)
854058;1412201286;mircea_popescu;lol
854059;1412201525;thickasthieves;market is really taking this news hard http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-bbet/
854060;1412201527;assbot;S.BBET Analysis - Btc Alpha
854061;1412201543;pentestr;Sorry, went to take a dump
854062;1412201554;pentestr;Dimsler: oh really? and why do you think so?
854063;1412201576;Dimsler;worst case will happen is you'll just crash the server
854064;1412201591;pentestr;thats a dos
854065;1412201597;pentestr;not interesting enough to execute
854066;1412201603;pentestr;and noisy + risky
854067;1412201610;thickasthieves;no need to debate, you already said you cna prove it
854068;1412201635;mircea_popescu;well maybe he wants to debate! isn't this the internet ?
854069;1412201647;thickasthieves;i'm just debating here, lay off!
854070;1412201655;Dimsler;debasing
854071;1412201658;mircea_popescu;no, you're not debating, im debating.
854072;1412201666;thickasthieves;semantics
854073;1412201668;Dimsler;deluminate
854074;1412201672;mircea_popescu;look, this isn't an argument.
854075;1412201680;Dimsler;thickasthieves, mmm chaos
854076;1412201682;mircea_popescu;if you want to argue you'll have to do it in your spare time!
854077;1412201692;thickasthieves;we'll have to agree to disagree on this one
854078;1412201700;Dimsler;thickasthieves, you know the best example of chaos right?
854079;1412201702;mircea_popescu;im disagreeing to not agree.
854080;1412201714;pentestr;you people are weird
854081;1412201718;pentestr;just wait for the hack
854082;1412201723;Dimsler;pilate asked the jews to pick either barabaos "logos" or jesus "order"
854083;1412201725;pentestr;i'll email you a poc in around 40mins
854084;1412201728;Dimsler;they choose logos
854085;1412201731;pentestr;trying to get some shell-code right..
854086;1412201733;Dimsler;chaos
854087;1412201733;mircea_popescu;;;google waiting for the night to fall when everything is hack-abol
854088;1412201734;gribble;the book of honor -- the two mikes - American Buddha: ; Full text of "Leo M. Frank. The Dead Shall Rise by Steve Oney": ; Where's Walden? » 2008 » June:
854089;1412201739;Dimsler;made a billion member religion off of it
854090;1412201739;mircea_popescu;bah shit googsy.
854091;1412201753;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z-fyNdnOKE
854092;1412201753;assbot;depeche mode - waiting for the night (1990) - YouTube
854093;1412201759;thickasthieves;dimsler that is simply the best example of chaos ive ever heard
854094;1412201810;Dimsler;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos
854095;1412201810;assbot;Logos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
854096;1412201826;thickasthieves;they prbly thought he meant brand logos
854097;1412201829;thickasthieves;everyone loves those
854098;1412201837;Dimsler;maybe legos
854099;1412201846;thickasthieves;!
854100;1412201922;Dimsler;er logos and chaos
854101;1412201924;Dimsler;lol
854102;1412201938;Dimsler;barabus was chaos
854103;1412201966;thickasthieves;would you like to know a great example of order?
854104;1412201974;Dimsler;logos was order
854105;1412202015;thickasthieves;some guys got together and made a billion member religion
854106;1412202018;mats_cd03;would anyone like to wager on the likelihood this exploit is going to materialize
854107;1412202038;Dimsler;for or against?
854108;1412202044;thickasthieves;pentestr would
854109;1412202063;pentestr;mircea_popescu: give me your email address and pgp public key block?
854110;1412202063;mats_cd03;for, im dubious
854111;1412202080;pentestr;mats_cd03: wager nay and loose your money punk
854112;1412202102;mats_cd03;i think this makes it interesting
854113;1412202129;pentestr;it sure does
854114;1412202145;pentestr;and is that guy - mircea_popescu - offline or something?
854115;1412202160;thickasthieves;probly just writing a treatise on something
854116;1412202164;thickasthieves;he'll be back
854117;1412202175;punkman;what's critical anyway
854118;1412202198;punkman;if you can't steal coins, not sure it's so important
854119;1412202202;pentestr;need to run multiple proxies because your stupid server has a dumbass firewall that thinks that blocking ip's with repeated requests will prevent a hack
854120;1412202208;pentestr;and that means i can't be connected to chat
854121;1412202224;pentestr;punkman: i can you dumbass.. thats what i said, didn't i?
854122;1412202236;pentestr;[03:27] <+pentestr> mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted
854123;1412202245;thickasthieves;if he can make web pages he can intercept coins at the very least
854124;1412202280;pentestr;thickasthieves: dont need to make web pages.. just need to edit the ones you have and put in my own wallet addresses to receive the bet amounts.
854125;1412202281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23982 @ 0.00074747 = 17.9258 BTC [+] {2}
854126;1412202295;Dimsler;!up pentestr
854127;1412202303;mats_cd03;thats what hes talking about
854128;1412202314;thickasthieves;pentestr pretty much what i meant
854129;1412202321;pentestr;kk
854130;1412202322;mircea_popescu;aww dude, why so aggro anyway ?
854131;1412202339;pentestr;weed
854132;1412202339;thickasthieves;you try being 19 and hacking bitbet all day
854133;1412202356;mircea_popescu;just pastebin to my key.
854134;1412202363;pentestr;thickasthieves: great joke bruh.
854135;1412202370;thickasthieves;ty
854136;1412202374;Dimsler;yeah i know
854137;1412202374;pentestr;mircea_popescu: hit me
854138;1412202378;bounce;haxx all day and no kudos make pentestr a dull boy
854139;1412202392;pentestr;lol
854140;1412202401;pentestr;where do all of you minions come from?
854141;1412202408;pentestr;i get your kinda rich and shit
854142;1412202414;pentestr;but why be gay?
854143;1412202415;Dimsler;well they hover around
854144;1412202423;Dimsler;hoping to get rich quick by association
854145;1412202424;thickasthieves;i like this guy
854146;1412202432;mats_cd03;im here for the cake and tea
854147;1412202439;Dimsler;i'm here for the banter
854148;1412202440;mircea_popescu;pentestr they're all this one chick with big boobs in reality.
854149;1412202442;pentestr;mircea_popescu: can you like, reply quick with a pastie with your pgp key and email?
854150;1412202447;mircea_popescu;;;ident
854151;1412202447;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
854152;1412202448;mircea_popescu;^
854153;1412202454;pentestr;mircea_popescu: LOL
854154;1412202463;Dimsler;pentestr, listen quit with the verifying of anything
854155;1412202464;thickasthieves;i'm here to justify my own existence
854156;1412202467;mircea_popescu;i guess you're new huh. anyway!
854157;1412202471;Dimsler;nobody is pressing charges for any type of silly hacking
854158;1412202477;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV << click on gpg identitty.
854159;1412202478;assbot;Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu'
854160;1412202485;pentestr;mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
854161;1412202485;Dimsler;get to overflowing the stack by finding a nullified pointer
854162;1412202489;Dimsler;i'd like to see it happen
854163;1412202498;pentestr;PGP is an encryption format to send you an email?
854164;1412202499;pentestr;you know..
854165;1412202500;mircea_popescu;i know, right ?
854166;1412202502;pentestr;with the PoC?
854167;1412202550;pentestr;Dimsler: lol, you're so cute
854168;1412202554;Dimsler;i know
854169;1412202557;Dimsler;my mom tells me all the time
854170;1412202563;pentestr;rambling on with 0 knowledge of web-app security
854171;1412202568;pentestr;im sure she does
854172;1412202581;mircea_popescu;hm i think that may be a hot button for him.
854173;1412202636;thickasthieves;pentestr have you found vulns any other btc sites?
854174;1412202643;pentestr;yes
854175;1412202645;pentestr;ofc
854176;1412202651;Dimsler;can you give us some money from circle
854177;1412202656;Dimsler;because that place is bunk
854178;1412202683;pentestr;mircea_popescu: email + pgp key blog.. i can't be on here forever.. or Dimsler will make another stupid comment..
854179;1412202692;pentestr;block*
854180;1412202698;mircea_popescu;o.O
854181;1412202703;pentestr;Dimsler: sure.. !tip Dimsler 5000000000 BTC
854182;1412202707;thickasthieves;i like Circle, just cuz they water down Coinbase
854183;1412202708;pentestr;happy Dimsler ?
854184;1412202718;mircea_popescu;you srsly have to read better if you want to be a pentester.
854185;1412202760;thickasthieves;pentestr do you blog about your adventures or anything?
854186;1412202787;pentestr;thickasthieves: yes i do, but you can't dox me
854187;1412202794;mats_cd03;rofl
854188;1412202798;pentestr;mircea_popescu: do you understand what im asking you?
854189;1412202807;thickasthieves;i dont wanna dox you
854190;1412202815;mircea_popescu;pentestr yeah.
854191;1412202822;pentestr;mircea_popescu: whats your email address?
854192;1412202838;thickasthieves;just interested in the subject and this chan likes to collect blogs
854193;1412202839;Dimsler;pgp email blows
854194;1412202847;pentestr;and then, your PGP key.. the whole block.. because that link doesn't have shit.
854195;1412202847;Dimsler;you don't need his email address
854196;1412202848;mats_cd03;whys the communication channel matter if you have his public key
854197;1412202848;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves i tell you kids today have it really rough. recall how traumatised that julia chick was when she first showed up ? it's like they grow up in a king of the flies scenario.
854198;1412202849;mircea_popescu;no respite.
854199;1412202857;mircea_popescu;pentestr srsly, follow the link, it's all in there.
854200;1412202862;mircea_popescu;and you'll learn some stuff in the process.
854201;1412202879;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 he doesn't know he has it yet.
854202;1412202891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12244 @ 0.00074592 = 9.133 BTC [-] {2}
854203;1412202897;mats_cd03;b-but email
854204;1412202909;Dimsler;pentestr, nobody is going to sit there pgp emailing you
854205;1412202918;Dimsler;theres far better forms of encrypted communication
854206;1412202919;mircea_popescu;i might, if he has somthing legit.
854207;1412202934;mircea_popescu;which, incidentally, would be pretty hysterical. i'll never let kako live it down :D
854208;1412202950;thickasthieves;aww i feel bad already
854209;1412202951;pentestr;Dimsler: oh really dipshit? which?
854210;1412202965;mircea_popescu;pg-13
854211;1412202986;thickasthieves;nc-17
854212;1412202987;Dimsler;pentestr, sign with wallet
854213;1412202998;pentestr;mircea_popescu: i wanted dipshit to answer.. he seems to be a know-it-all
854214;1412203002;BingoBoingo;!up deedBot
854215;1412203002;mircea_popescu;Dimsler srsly let the guy be lol. why all the trolage.
854216;1412203006;BingoBoingo;.deed http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha
854217;1412203006;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
854218;1412203007;deedBot;deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.
854219;1412203007;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha
854220;1412203008;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com
854221;1412203009;pentestr;he knows webapp security.. now he knows crypto
854222;1412203013;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, fine
854223;1412203018;thickasthieves;pentestr, careful dimsler is part troll
854224;1412203023;mircea_popescu;pentestr this is not uncommon with bitcoin people.
854225;1412203025;pentestr;ah
854226;1412203027;Dimsler;part assassin
854227;1412203035;mircea_popescu;and part assyrian prostitute.
854228;1412203044;Dimsler;wooo i love green eyes and black hair
854229;1412203051;Dimsler;something just so fucking sexy about those
854230;1412203054;pentestr;mircea_popescu: it honestly is.. most bitcoin people aren't entrepreneurs.. they dont have this knowledge
854231;1412203064;punkman;BingoBoingo: what's with your bogus deeds
854232;1412203076;pentestr;mircea_popescu: got the pgp block. you want me to send you a message here?
854233;1412203080;BingoBoingo;punkman: Not sure, maybe deedBot doesn't trust me
854234;1412203082;mircea_popescu;use pastebin sure.
854235;1412203094;pentestr;i mean, there are many.. i picked one
854236;1412203103;mircea_popescu;pick the first lol.
854237;1412203107;mircea_popescu;the "many" are other people signing my sig.
854238;1412203154;pentestr;kk
854239;1412203160;pentestr;brb in around 30-40mins.
854240;1412203227;bounce;assbot should probably stop fetching deedbot urls
854241;1412203246;mircea_popescu;yeah and added in default voice list
854242;1412203268;mircea_popescu;and the website moved over to deeds.ba and the key process fixed. there's a list.
854243;1412203433;cazalla;thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w <<< thanks but going with name BingoBoingo ripped off from pete
854244;1412203433;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
854245;1412203506;BingoBoingo;Qntra is going to be the name?
854246;1412203529;bounce;the.biz: squatted since 2002
854247;1412203542;cazalla;BingoBoingo, what do you mean ? already regged domain last night!
854248;1412203567;cazalla;i guess if we need to pivot to another domain, we can spend the day doing so
854249;1412203568;BingoBoingo;cazalla: I know.Just getting the name out there
854250;1412203620;Dimsler;lawdy lawdy
854251;1412203656;cazalla;so i'm going to proceed with the news site idea, i'll run it, gather some authors etc, BingoBoingo is the jessie pinkman to my walter white in this endeavour
854252;1412203690;Dimsler;are you going to poison his kid?
854253;1412203712;BingoBoingo;Dimsler: Not my kid, the sidepiece's kid.
854254;1412203827;cazalla;i might have to, BingoBoingo took offense to my calling him the clarice to my hannibal
854255;1412203890;Dimsler;LOL
854256;1412204128;*;danielpbarron
854257;1412204389;thickasthieves;whats the name again?
854258;1412204404;Dimsler;merica
854259;1412204414;thickasthieves;shush you
854260;1412204838;cazalla;thickasthieves, qntra.net
854261;1412204865;cazalla;i have some things to do this morning before i set it up though
854262;1412205056;cazalla;CheckDavid: Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia? <<< they were but then they were not but now they're becoming a problem again due to calicivirus resistance
854263;1412205177;thickasthieves;cool cool
854264;1412205402;kakobrekla;so, bitbet hacked yet?
854265;1412205453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074354 = 6.5432 BTC [-]
854266;1412205485;kakobrekla; setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website < cant he put that file there himself?
854267;1412205485;assbot;Not Found
854268;1412205644;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla guess not jet.
854269;1412205691;BingoBoingo;http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141192314032483&w=2 << Use after free bug in Tor
854270;1412205693;assbot;'tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC
854271;1412205705;mircea_popescu;lol
854272;1412205748;Dimsler;must haxor bitbet
854273;1412205749;*;mircea_popescu is too lazy to set up a b1tbet.us with a "got doge???" title just to jolt kako
854274;1412205760;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, what did he really want? money?
854275;1412205770;mircea_popescu;who ?
854276;1412205774;BingoBoingo;http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141197480111629&w=2
854277;1412205775;assbot;'Re: tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC
854278;1412205775;Dimsler;that kid
854279;1412205788;mircea_popescu;no idea. he was gonna be back with a poc.
854280;1412205796;mircea_popescu;or with something. dunno.
854281;1412206063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22796 @ 0.00074354 = 16.9497 BTC [-]
854282;1412206112;BingoBoingo;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By4GyZdCUAAWuL3.png
854283;1412206187;BingoBoingo;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By3Spi7CAAERfVF.jpg
854284;1412206380;midnightmagic;That bug has already been fixed, apparently.
854285;1412206386;midnightmagic;(the tor problem)
854286;1412206392;BingoBoingo;Yeah
854287;1412207002;BingoBoingo;!up flibbr-dev
854288;1412208340;danielpbarron;flibbr-dev, are you the guy I had a google hangout chat with?
854289;1412209395;xanthyos;back from dr
854290;1412209402;xanthyos;he didn't force me to show him my penis
854291;1412209432;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: How do you know it doesn't have cancer then?
854292;1412209445;BingoBoingo;Or did you show it voluntarily
854293;1412209445;xanthyos;because of the tom green song
854294;1412209474;xanthyos;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WpY2lxVovA
854295;1412209474;assbot;Tom Green - Movember (Feel Your Balls) - YouTube
854296;1412209507;xanthyos;hm, that was funnier 2 decades ago
854297;1412209619;BingoBoingo;Time is a thing
854298;1412209846;mircea_popescu;xanthyos i just watched superstar and road trip
854299;1412209856;mircea_popescu;shit the 90s were funny.
854300;1412209875;xanthyos;i try to watch 90s movies with a 2014 brain and it feels hollow
854301;1412209889;xanthyos;the zeitgeist from which i'm observing the art has changed
854302;1412209894;xanthyos;so the art appears different
854303;1412209922;xanthyos;nobody talks about bitcoin in road trip
854304;1412209965;xanthyos;treasure hunt movies will lose their edge when boxes of gold turn into private keys
854305;1412210067;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: No, they just get more Pulp Fiction type scenes
854306;1412210110;xanthyos;we never saw was was in marcellus wallace's briefcase
854307;1412210136;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: Probably a self aware VaxStation named Satoshi
854308;1412210318;BingoBoingo;Oh, the 1990's this flick had a 48 million dollar budget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby%27s_Day_Out
854309;1412210318;assbot;Baby's Day Out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
854310;1412210423;RagnarDanneskjol;bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
854311;1412210433;RagnarDanneskjol;mircea_popescu:speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?<< yea, they're an amusing crew..i've been lurking there a bit. lots of bizarre romanian memes and jokes that don't translate very well. i might have a contract gig lined up for their leader
854312;1412210454;mircea_popescu;a cool then
854313;1412210514;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo 48 million in 1990s dollars is like a trillion dollars in watsapp stock
854314;1412210540;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That it is
854315;1412210882;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
854316;1412210883;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.58, Best ask: 384.58, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 383.56, 24 hour volume: 12876.14388849, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 393.79, 24 hour vwap: 384.275750071
854317;1412210970;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7196350#msg7196350
854318;1412210970;assbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
854319;1412211000;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=803609.msg9024556#msg9024556
854320;1412211000;assbot;Moving Sale! Everything Must Go! PSUs PCI-e Risers Security Cameras etc etc
854321;1412211558;BingoBoingo;So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck >> https://sway.com/red_panda
854322;1412211559;assbot;The Red Panda
854323;1412211671;BingoBoingo;Or just skip to the source view >> http://pastebin.com/XygAxShz
854324;1412211671;assbot;[HTML] Microshit Sway Tool Demo Example - Pastebin.com
854325;1412211746;mircea_popescu;;;later tell RPrpRP http://trilema.com/2014/lifes-lemons-a-list-of-steps/
854326;1412211747;assbot;Life’s lemons, a list of steps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
854327;1412211747;gribble;The operation succeeded.
854328;1412212775;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/computercop-the-dubious-internet-safety-software-given-to-families-nationwide/ << The Reddit police will never be as bad as actual police
854329;1412212776;assbot;ComputerCOP: the dubious Internet Safety Software given to US families | Ars Technica
854330;1412212923;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/lifes-lemons-a-list-of-steps/
854331;1412213022;RagnarDanneskjol;is penguirker a bot?
854332;1412213103;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: It is indeed a bot, pankkake's
854333;1412213113;RagnarDanneskjol;thought so - seems to have a one-track mind
854334;1412213132;ben_vulpes;there's also oglafbot, that one's even more single-purpose.
854335;1412213173;BingoBoingo;ben_vulpes: But that bot runs on organic hardware
854336;1412213180;ben_vulpes;but what
854337;1412213196;BingoBoingo;ben_vulpes: And that bot missed a week when jurov posted Oglaf first
854338;1412213205;ben_vulpes;it's pretty smart
854339;1412213216;ben_vulpes;not obsessive, but context-sensitive.
854340;1412213221;BingoBoingo;Thank you ben_vulpes
854341;1412213267;BingoBoingo;ben_vulpes: What emacs tutorials would you recommend?
854342;1412213268;ben_vulpes;mhm
854343;1412213274;ben_vulpes;woof
854344;1412213282;BingoBoingo;Grrhrhrhrhrhrhrhr
854345;1412213288;ben_vulpes;that's...
854346;1412213291;BingoBoingo;;;ud manul
854347;1412213292;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ilonggo | trending. doxx · bae · hipster · fleek · thot · donkey punch · darude - sandstorm · trill · cunt · twoosh. categories. gaming · sports · food · sex · tv · film · celebrities ...
854348;1412213321;BingoBoingo;What the everloving fuck UD?
854349;1412213357;*;ben_vulpes wonders if there's an actual API behind gribble's UD integration or just screenscraping.
854350;1412213373;BingoBoingo;On 'Murica's lack of any health infrastructure at all http://gawker.com/texas-ebola-patient-was-originally-just-sent-home-with-1641415368
854351;1412213373;assbot;The Texas Ebola Patient Was Accidentally Sent Home From the Hospital
854352;1412213440;BingoBoingo;Top Comment: "They diagnosed him as having a viral infection and gave him antibiotics (which only work on bacteria). Jesus."
854353;1412213443;ben_vulpes; http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg << too good
854354;1412213507;midnightmagic;usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses
854355;1412213609;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: But when you are already suffering a viral infection... Unless that infection is GRIDS you are often never better prepared to slaughter bacterial hordes on your own.
854356;1412213640;cazalla;good luck ebola
854357;1412213689;BingoBoingo;Spz. I actually escape 'Murica for hardware b-a I now have to route around fucking Texas...
854358;1412213816;decimation;BingoBoingo: I recommend the built-in emacs tutorial
854359;1412213817;BingoBoingo;At this point though I may be doomed to carve out a Bitcoin Lordship in the Middle West seeing as I can't imagine Mexico or that Cartels wanting to keep the border open
854360;1412213829;BingoBoingo;decimation: I might give it a try.
854361;1412213835;decimation;what helped me was to edit everything in emacs for two weeks, with a reference card on the wall that described the shortcut
854362;1412213881;decimation;I recommend forcing yourself to use the C-p C-n C-f C-b 'joystick' instead of the arrow keys, it really pays dividends
854363;1412213882;midnightmagic;we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it
854364;1412213889;BingoBoingo;decimation: Well I keep a lot of info on paper anyways. Need tinder to get the flames ready to recycle drives.
854365;1412213919;decimation;I recommend the fujitsu scansnap for a scanner, it is awesome
854366;1412213947;midnightmagic;anyway, yeah, without some good reason for it, and apparently since there are no new antibacterials being researched, over-prescribing that nonsense is bad for everyone. :(
854367;1412213950;BingoBoingo; we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it << But a good number of broad spectrum antibiotics can actually hamper immune response. Methotrexate is a good example.
854368;1412213965;decimation;they can also encourage fungal infections
854369;1412213974;decimation;plus they ruin your digestive tract
854370;1412214018;BingoBoingo;decimation: Amphoterrible B is a thing. Pretty much the null set of fungi aren't responsive to it, but... Pretty damaging to mammal cells as well.
854371;1412214037;decimation;not to mention they are purified death-poison emitted from fugus to kill bacteria
854372;1412214107;decimation;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140929180053.htm
854373;1412214107;assbot;Use of broad-spectrum antibiotics before age 2 associated with obesity risk -- ScienceDaily
854374;1412214136;BingoBoingo;Basically the way antibacterial drugs work is the good ones are bacteriostatic (prevent reproduction: Bactrim, tetracycline) as opposed to being bacteriacidal (Outright murder bacteria: Beta-Lactams)
854375;1412214168;BingoBoingo;!s Bactrim
854376;1412214169;assbot;2 results for 'Bactrim' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Bactrim
854377;1412214183;decimation;it's probably better to man-up and ride out your nose/ear infection rather than beg for treatment
854378;1412214225;BingoBoingo;Big conversation from this spring when my scrotum was in jeopardy, because I needed to make a lifestyle change and insist on a higher quality of vag
854379;1412214245;midnightmagic;BingoBoingo: azithromycin attenuates the immune response in some cases.
854380;1412214267;midnightmagic;(like for some types of viral infection)
854381;1412214336;midnightmagic;It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. It's possible there was a good reason, is all I'm saying. The straight "why ab for virus?!" doesn't seem like it was based on facts of the diagnosis.
854382;1412214349;decimation;related >> http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/nurses-vs-doctors/
854383;1412214350;assbot;Nurses vs doctors | West Hunter
854384;1412214366;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: At a cost though. Azithromycin creates a lot of space for opportunistic infections becasue while fairly broad spectrum it is also very specific.
854385;1412214383;decimation;my understanding is that many doctors write for antibiotics to get patients out the door without fuss so they can move on
854386;1412214415;midnightmagic;they don't do that so much here anymore..
854387;1412214465;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/08/foreign-body/
854388;1412214465;assbot;Genuine Slipped and Fell Rectal Foreign Body Victim Stuns Experts - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
854389;1412214539;decimation;http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/malcolm_gladwell_s_10_000_hour_rule_for_deliberate_practice_is_wrong_genes.html << "For example, the number of hours of deliberate practice to first reach “master” status (a very high level of skill) ranged from 728 hours to 16,120 hours. This means that one player needed 22 times more deliberate practice than another player to become a master."
854390;1412214540;assbot;Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 Hour Rule for deliberate practice is wrong: Genes for music, IQ, drawing ability, and other skills.
854391;1412214580;nubbins`;lel @ pentester
854392;1412214599;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#854160
854393;1412214599;assbot;Logged on 01-10-2014 22:28:05; pentestr: mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
854394;1412214610;nubbins`;"i asked for your pgp key, not your gpg key, dummy
854395;1412214611;nubbins`;"
854396;1412214614;nubbins`;my sides &c
854397;1412214624;decimation;http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119321/harvard-ivy-league-should-judge-students-standardized-tests << "But all of these hypotheses have been empirically refuted. We have already seen that test scores, as far up the upper tail as you can go, predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. "
854398;1412214625;assbot;Harvard, Ivy League Should Judge Students by Standardized Tests | New Republic
854399;1412214647;decimation;it's suddenly become okay to imply that people might be different mentally, and that free education can't fix it
854400;1412214825;nubbins`;why fix it
854401;1412214830;nubbins`;what does fix mean, even?
854402;1412214832;decimation;nubbins`: highly amusing. perhaps he thought GPG was something with which you encrypt non-email plaintext
854403;1412214842;mircea_popescu;http://braexplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/huge-side-boobs-fishnet-and-stripper-heels.jpg
854404;1412214854;nubbins`;i think he maybe even knew the acronyms but somehow thought the two were incompatible.
854405;1412214861;*;nubbins` shrugs
854406;1412214867;nubbins`;anyway, asshole
854407;1412214889;decimation;nubbins`: much of the egalitarian idiocy preached in communist/socialism 'merica depends on the idea that if people just try hard enough they can 'practice' to become anything
854408;1412214906;mircea_popescu;<midnightmagic> usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses << even so, antibiotics mostly work if not overprescribed in general, and in particualr they weaken liver function which is essential in viral infections
854409;1412214944;decimation;does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways?
854410;1412214954;mircea_popescu;yes, actually.
854411;1412214973;mircea_popescu;the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently.
854412;1412214985;mircea_popescu;has these 3-4 major bottlenecks
854413;1412214988;decimation;so a nurse who gave someone whisky in 1800 to recover from the flu was probably far more likely to be helping than the doctor who wanted to bleed or whatever
854414;1412215006;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu> the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently. << But other than te portal vein it is Decentralized!!!
854415;1412215030;decimation;the liver cells could learn if they were given enough time to practice and good teachers.
854416;1412215061;mircea_popescu;perhaps. or there may just not be a better way to do it.
854417;1412215090;decimation;I heard a story the other day - a suburban mom commutes to inner-city Chicago to teach. She gets paid double what she would make in the suburbs - and at her school every kid gets an ipad for showing up for a set number of days per school year
854418;1412215109;TheNewDeal;I've heard that Etoh in small quantities can (not must) increase metabolism
854419;1412215124;mircea_popescu; It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. << you know what it was and what he was thinking. it was his 28th hour in a straight shift and he was thinking "booop booop booop"
854420;1412215143;BingoBoingo; does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways? << Not the pathways so much as conjugants. Gluconiduration and second phase is a thing.
854421;1412215171;BingoBoingo; I've heard that Etoh in small quantities can (not must) increase metabolism << This is actual epigentics in practice and one of the few examples.
854422;1412215192;mircea_popescu; my sides &c << guy's new wadda ya want.
854423;1412215235;mircea_popescu;"predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. " <<< they don't predict jack.
854424;1412215253;mircea_popescu;if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz.
854425;1412215284;decimation;there is no doubt a certain component of "IQ" that is measurable on tests
854426;1412215294;decimation;but that's not a whole measure of mental ability
854427;1412215301;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Basically lines of liver cells can often produce more of certain enzyme pathways if they need them, but you are still stuck with your CYP 450 phenotype.
854428;1412215317;mircea_popescu;decimation "mental ability" is a very poor predictor of performance
854429;1412215334;BingoBoingo; if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz. << But they'd all be older
854430;1412215338;mircea_popescu;i know plenty of people smarter than me, and plenty of people better than me, and the overlap is pretty much zero.
854431;1412215377;decimation;some of the people I know who scored very well on standardized tests made rather poor life choices
854432;1412215386;mircea_popescu;so what did it predict.
854433;1412215394;mircea_popescu;you remember, prediction is a term of art.
854434;1412215434;mircea_popescu;like when the third engine dies we can make a prediction about the plane's future. *that's* a prediction.
854435;1412215454;decimation;it predicted that they would succeed in bureaucratic schoolwork, which was mostly true
854436;1412215462;mircea_popescu;but also begging the question.
854437;1412215477;mircea_popescu;similarly the one engine plane is very successful at being a one engine plane.
854438;1412215528;decimation;yes, I admit that there is little relationship between being 'good at school/tests' and 'being good at life'
854439;1412215542;mircea_popescu;but politics and policy and pseudo-sciences are full of this "my theory allows me to accurately predict that i shall now be making an accurate prediction based on my theory"
854440;1412215595;kakobrekla; i know plenty of people smarter than me, and plenty of people better than me, < you did not just say that
854441;1412215604;decimation;I guess if you wanted to hire a girl to be a mentat such tests would be useful
854442;1412215605;mircea_popescu;yeah ?
854443;1412215636;kakobrekla;none of them reads your blog? :)
854444;1412215668;BingoBoingo;http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-busy-geckos.html
854445;1412215668;assbot;Crazy RxMan: The Busy Geckos
854446;1412215669;mircea_popescu;actually some do, sure.
854447;1412215767;kakobrekla;but i thought you were the best god better than anyone!?!
854448;1412215774;kakobrekla;scam
854449;1412215934;mircea_popescu;who shilled that!
854450;1412215965;mircea_popescu;decimation not really, no.
854451;1412216001;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/did-an-old-woman-wander-into-the-giants-dugout-tonight-1641471333 << Seekrit Service continues to suck
854452;1412216001;assbot;Did An Old Woman Wander Into The Giants' Dugout Tonight?
854453;1412216048;BingoBoingo;Also yes, Pittsburg brought in the Seekrit service to protect a baseball game
854454;1412216131;decimation;BingoBoingo: apparently the director was 'fired'
854455;1412216144;decimation;this is a rarity in usg, where someone says "I am responsible" and they are fired
854456;1412216166;decimation;well, she resigned
854457;1412216212;BingoBoingo;decimation: You see this is how Feds avoid accountability. By making distinctions impossible, as in this example fired versus quit.
854458;1412216248;decimation;yeah, and in reality she wasn't responsible, the 5 derps 'guarding' outside utterly failed to respond appropriately, and the woman guarding the door was shoved aside
854459;1412216309;BingoBoingo;And lest we not forget the dude in the right place was checked out for the day when the East Room was breeched
854460;1412216393;TheNewDeal;BingoBoingo re busy-geckos. Why in the hell would he point that out to the woman?
854461;1412216420;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: "Do No Harm" unless the result is funny?
854462;1412216441;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131828.0
854463;1412216441;assbot;casascius coins
854464;1412216467;TheNewDeal;yes indeed
854465;1412216468;nubbins`;guy selling 150btc face value of sealed coins
854466;1412216644;kakobrekla;so?
854467;1412216675;BingoBoingo;Ebola is the greatest threat the cotton Industry has ever seen?
854468;1412216701;nubbins`;so, doesn't happen too often :)
854469;1412216704;BingoBoingo;(I mean in the sense North Africa and Texas are where cotton is grown nao)
854470;1412216800;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00074414 = 17.7105 BTC [+]
854471;1412216833;Vexual;they pick cotton by hand?
854472;1412216960;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Well... Someone has to run the combines
854473;1412217061;Vexual;if anyone comes couging and spluttering in your direction, an airconditioned cab 12 feet up with a huge zombie mulching apparatus sounds like a good job
854474;1412217251;BingoBoingo;!up devthedev
854475;1412218695;Vexual;http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4224056.ece aristotle telegony ecology letters
854476;1412218966;thickasthieves;<+BingoBoingo> So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck // lol that is a horrible website
854477;1412218997;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: How much js did it serve you off of those includes?
854478;1412219037;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: It tried to serve me nearly 1 MB of JS for maybe 15Kb of content
854479;1412219116;xanthyos;http://www.donkdown.com/live-radio/ << danielpbarron IS DOING HIS THING!
854480;1412219117;assbot;DonkDown – Live Radio
854481;1412219136;xanthyos;JUST BROUGHT UP THE WOT
854482;1412219141;xanthyos;PERFECT TIMING
854483;1412219148;thickasthieves;i barely got past the first click
854484;1412219170;thickasthieves;like i wanna walk thru their silly web slideshow shit
854485;1412219789;xanthyos;HEH
854486;1412220067;TheNewDeal;is this dpb on right now?
854487;1412220143;xanthyos;THIS IS MICHAEL W DEAN
854488;1412220152;TheNewDeal;the pro commy?
854489;1412220160;xanthyos;"FREEDOM FEENS" PODCASTER
854490;1412220185;TheNewDeal;whos this responding
854491;1412220197;xanthyos;BRYAN MICON
854492;1412220206;TheNewDeal;CAPS PLEASE
854493;1412220207;xanthyos;THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE
854494;1412220262;xanthyos;who does a weekly podcast, and is vehemently anti-wot
854495;1412220333;TheNewDeal;quantum phyics is fairy dust
854496;1412220344;TheNewDeal;this guy is facking ridiculous
854497;1412220439;xanthyos;i'm antitheist. i KNOW there's a god and i'm resentful of his domineering father figure-ness
854498;1412220448;TheNewDeal;:D
854499;1412220477;TheNewDeal;This micon guy doesn't go full retard at least
854500;1412220496;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: No he accidentally intos it
854501;1412220536;dub;the drone program?
854502;1412220546;dub;fuck is this? just micon?
854503;1412220555;TheNewDeal;The loud guy is not micon
854504;1412220564;TheNewDeal;it's michael w dean, from what I understand
854505;1412220629;nubbins`;at the university here, the math faculty is actually under the department of religious studies
854506;1412220632;nubbins`;think about that for a bit
854507;1412220645;mircea_popescu;<BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: It tried to serve me nearly 1 MB of JS for maybe 15Kb of content << gotta keep the economee goin
854508;1412220653;Vexual;nubbins`: i can't
854509;1412220665;xanthyos;"neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean)
854510;1412220670;nubbins`;Vexual that's because it was a dirty lie!
854511;1412220673;mircea_popescu; THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE << lol no wai ?! iirc seals had an actual owner
854512;1412220693;nubbins`;it's okay; i'm a man of the chair
854513;1412220697;mircea_popescu; think about that for a bit << seems rational to me. where'd you put it ?
854514;1412220704;mircea_popescu;not like it's a science. math is pure metaphysics.
854515;1412220713;nubbins`;philosophy, natch
854516;1412220734;nubbins`;math is the bridge
854517;1412220742;dub;can't listen to these tards
854518;1412220760;TheNewDeal;Micon has half a brain, to say the least
854519;1412220777;dub;citation needed
854520;1412220781;danielpbarron;<+xanthyos> "neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean) << he's right
854521;1412220817;TheNewDeal;You can call the man an idiot, but he can at least graph the natural universe at a much higher rate than probably 99.99% of people that inhabit the earth
854522;1412220830;TheNewDeal;I'm not saying he's some sort of genius by any means
854523;1412220843;dub;micon is famous for confronting inaba like a frightened girl and running a scam poker site
854524;1412220856;TheNewDeal;but he runs a scam poker site well
854525;1412220856;danielpbarron;he's a shill for "climate change"
854526;1412220874;Vexual;i accidentally listened to that radio for a few seconds: if i ever move to us im stopping into beverly hills 1st to have my ears removed
854527;1412220880;kakobrekla;and NASA
854528;1412220887;dub;AND NSA
854529;1412220890;danielpbarron;heh, why do you call it a scam, dub?
854530;1412220903;dub;s'wat I herd
854531;1412220916;danielpbarron;what specifically did you hear?
854532;1412220922;dub;that they were cheating
854533;1412220922;TheNewDeal;NASA is massively overfunded, but they take some sweet space photos
854534;1412220936;danielpbarron;like a rigged shuffle or something else?
854535;1412220937;nubbins`;not for much longer they don't!
854536;1412220939;TheNewDeal;seals is most definitely a scam
854537;1412220945;dub;idk idgaf about poker
854538;1412220973;TheNewDeal;I swear it was someone in here explaining how they had obtained multiple royal flushes on the site
854539;1412220992;TheNewDeal;which is like 1 in 15k odds
854540;1412221000;nubbins`;i remember that
854541;1412221005;xanthyos;"I think the people who are *real* bitcoin guys don't stay in public." (Michael Dean)
854542;1412221010;nubbins`;!up AndChat|679296
854543;1412221016;TheNewDeal;what about MP?
854544;1412221019;danielpbarron;my problem with seals is that the admins are in denial that they cannot possibly ban their way to a collusion-free poker environment, and refuse to integrate the Web of Trust to allow users to control who they play against
854545;1412221030;nubbins`;TheNewDeal this is a different type of public
854546;1412221040;dub;who is micheal dean?
854547;1412221056;TheNewDeal;Jimmy Dean's son
854548;1412221068;nubbins`;danielpbarron WoT-based poker site, hey?
854549;1412221076;nubbins`;who do i give my money to?
854550;1412221080;xanthyos;my problem is that they stole .026 and blocekd my IP
854551;1412221084;xanthyos;i awsn't cheating.
854552;1412221087;danielpbarron;yeah i've been telling MIcon to do it for a while now
854553;1412221111;xanthyos;and nitrogensports.eu makes seals look like pokerstars by contrast
854554;1412221112;danielpbarron;xanthyos and I have hosted a few private tables denominated in Bitcoin using pokerstars software
854555;1412221118;TheNewDeal;also, post aggregate stats, like on tournaments and such
854556;1412221135;TheNewDeal;oOo
854557;1412221169;TheNewDeal;first dealings in virtual currencies were selling fake poker chips from Pokerstars on ebay
854558;1412221177;kakobrekla;that guy that is talking to micon is pure scammer
854559;1412221193;kakobrekla;or just very retarded slight scammer
854560;1412221203;TheNewDeal;some combination of the two
854561;1412221207;danielpbarron;lol
854562;1412221208;Vexual;!b3
854563;1412221230;Vexual;nope
854564;1412221245;danielpbarron;he got a bunch of people to pump up Namecoin which caused more miners to merge it, leading to the price to decrease
854565;1412221270;Vexual;classbot
854566;1412221282;assbot;Need a number of lines.
854567;1412221282;TheNewDeal;!b
854568;1412221290;TheNewDeal;doh
854569;1412221403;Vexual;danielpbarron: can you think of a dotbit site off the top of your head?
854570;1412221421;danielpbarron;i used to have a bunch of names
854571;1412221450;TheNewDeal;whats the problem with namecoin price decreasing anyways?
854572;1412221457;danielpbarron;http://freedomfeens.bit/ is probably a thing
854573;1412221488;Vexual;and approximate price in btc for 1000 namecoin?>
854574;1412221506;danielpbarron;TheNewDeal, no problem unless you are one of the many who probably bought it because MWD hyped it up
854575;1412221530;TheNewDeal;does he have some retard following of a half dozen folks scattered across usia?
854576;1412221583;danielpbarron;yeah, but he also paid to have it advertised on Free Talk Live to a slightly bigger retard following
854577;1412221661;xanthyos;"that's called a fish on a heater."
854578;1412221667;xanthyos;also called "running good."
854579;1412221801;cazalla;how about a luckbox
854580;1412222018;asciilifeform;http://worstcats.tumblr.com << highly relevant
854581;1412222018;assbot;The Worst Cat
854582;1412222181;dub;indeed
854583;1412222197;dub;`
854584;1412222203;dub;oops
854585;1412222224;Vexual;best jennifer aniston
854586;1412222333;TheNewDeal;that cannot be a fucking cat
854587;1412222363;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/CmtqQ << blood, sweat, and... brass.
854588;1412222364;assbot;vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
854589;1412222364;gribble;The operation succeeded.
854590;1412222390;Vexual;whats it do?
854591;1412222404;dub;poop pump?
854592;1412222406;asciilifeform;Vexual: pick'n'place nozzle.
854593;1412222414;Vexual;sucks so goode?
854594;1412222425;TheNewDeal;you made your own?
854595;1412222426;asciilifeform;'nothing sucks like Electrolux. (tm)'
854596;1412222440;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: no, god threw it down to earth just now.
854597;1412222454;TheNewDeal;I'm just wondering why
854598;1412222465;TheNewDeal;are they expensive to procure and you have muchos tiempos on your manos?
854599;1412222495;TheNewDeal;or you only need a very small volume?
854600;1412222504;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: i need exactly one.
854601;1412222531;TheNewDeal;Gotcha
854602;1412222586;Vexual;is it straight thru inside? the outside is a piece of art
854603;1412222596;asciilifeform;Vexual: drilled, yes.
854604;1412222655;Vexual;lathed by hand eh?
854605;1412222656;TheNewDeal;why was brass chosen, if I might continue to pester you with manufacturing questions?
854606;1412222673;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel
854607;1412222781;Vexual;also goldy colour is nice
854608;1412222890;asciilifeform;there are two basic things one can do when need part of a specific shape and size, and no other.
854609;1412222907;asciilifeform;(provided that it cannot be had off the shelf)
854610;1412222911;TheNewDeal;pout?
854611;1412222914;asciilifeform;1) pay someone to machine it
854612;1412222916;asciilifeform;2) machine it.
854613;1412222930;asciilifeform;(1) is not an option given the modest budget.
854614;1412222934;asciilifeform;that leaves (2).
854615;1412222971;Vexual;drawing one would take as long as making one
854616;1412222988;asciilifeform;this piece - possibly.
854617;1412223326;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00074328 = 5.5003 BTC [-] {2}
854618;1412223682;BingoBoingo;When dealing with brass anything... You have to pretty much machine it yourself
854619;1412223696;Vexual;what about that thing means it's not available off the shelf?
854620;1412223747;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Well, it is hard to get a leuer lock without an expensive ass IV pump or heroin habit
854621;1412223779;BingoBoingo;Especially not one capable of surviving solder beads
854622;1412223819;BingoBoingo;Sure, you can claim Diabeetus and get soft plastic shit that wears like hell
854623;1412223857;BingoBoingo;And then you'll need 40 locking apparati minimum
854624;1412223878;BingoBoingo;Real lead pencils may be the shit, but...
854625;1412223900;BingoBoingo;Expecting a plastic to survive solder beads?
854626;1412223935;BingoBoingo;It would be like Micon condemning Butt Fucking Labs out of pure charity.
854627;1412223935;decimation;neat-o ascii, congrats on the manufacture
854628;1412223951;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Seriously beautiful work.
854629;1412224005;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: By 2018 Maybe I can commision a euphonium? I don't even want to think about how long a Tuba would take.
854630;1412224065;BingoBoingo; TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel << To be fair machining Aluminium is plenty tricky on its own
854631;1412224088;decimation;asciilifeform: did you make that on your manual lathe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2014#786567 ?
854632;1412224089;assbot;Logged on 08-08-2014 01:27:25; *: asciilifeform recently bought a 'proper' lathe - no coordinates, just cranks...
854633;1412224100;TheNewDeal;why do you say that bb?
854634;1412224106;TheNewDeal;I can band saw aluminum like a champ
854635;1412224123;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Aluminium... Ignites...
854636;1412224132;Vexual;i mean the part he machined, me thinks i could find something in my own junkyard, it must be the way it attaches to the machine or something
854637;1412224162;BingoBoingo;Aluminium also clogs the shit out of grinding wheels
854638;1412224199;Vexual;cuts like a champ
854639;1412224225;xanthyos;http://gyazo.com/eea800e0312cc43a0eb1feefeb6d1113
854640;1412224228;Vexual;little parrafin
854641;1412224256;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: Is that TradeFartress
854642;1412224370;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: It isn't necessarily that Aluminum is flamable enough on its own. Nearly any grinding equiptment usually put upon it will have already cut iron and have various Iron oxides in it...
854643;1412224407;BingoBoingo;FeO* + Al = ???
854644;1412224429;Vexual;i always thought it was more about the heat
854645;1412224457;BingoBoingo;Also about things that generate heat... like thermite.
854646;1412224460;TheNewDeal;I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'm pretty sure I've cut the shit on a band saw, while lightly spraying some lubricant, and had no problems of ignition. That band saw was for sure used in cutting other things (not sure how much iron)
854647;1412224464;Vexual;expands locally hence the need for parrafin wax lube
854648;1412224520;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Well, a bandsaw has rather controllable surfaces. A grinding wheel though if you work aluminium... turns into the bane of COmmunity College machine shops
854649;1412224604;BingoBoingo;Also consider most grinding wheels are already Aluminium oxide
854650;1412224624;Vexual;don't grind it
854651;1412224641;Vexual;or use diamonds
854652;1412224681;TheNewDeal;shiiit I'm gonna use the diamonds in my teeth and cut it like Jaws
854653;1412224693;BingoBoingo;Dude Jaws just died
854654;1412224696;Vexual;slow and steady
854655;1412224806;BingoBoingo;Seriously though... All of the fire the thermite references here... Thermite has exactly two ingredients...
854656;1412224856;BingoBoingo;And the two ingredients have 3 elements between them...
854657;1412224954;Vexual;wheres all thisoxygen coming from?
854658;1412224985;BingoBoingo;Vexual: From embedded iron that oxidized in the wheel.
854659;1412225208;Vexual;you'll find more danger with the pice getting stuck to the wheel and comin atchya at some aweful rate
854660;1412225269;decimation;thermite welding was used to weld railroad tracks in jungle conditions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadwelding
854661;1412225269;assbot;Exothermic welding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
854662;1412225747;Vexual;woeks in the wet
854663;1412226550;Vexual;if kept dry
854664;1412226683;asciilifeform;answer to why above part not available off shelf:
854665;1412226731;asciilifeform;pictured item is a rotor. thin end gets ptfe ring (in groove not yet cut in piece shown.) rotates inside, surprise, stator (not shown)
854666;1412226737;asciilifeform;while retaining vacuum.
854667;1412226755;asciilifeform;this setup is in fact available off shelf - but in gigantic version (for use with compressed air shop tools)
854668;1412226760;asciilifeform;needed - this size.
854669;1412226777;Vexual;i was wondering whyy that bell end was at the other end
854670;1412226808;asciilifeform;thin end is rotor flange.
854671;1412226845;asciilifeform;thick end - 1/4-32 (american. i didn't make the luer, and no metric luer could be easily sourced.)
854672;1412226852;Vexual;will it work?
854673;1412226862;asciilifeform;which 'it'
854674;1412226881;asciilifeform;the luer fits needle, just as it was sold for.
854675;1412226897;Vexual;the rotation and the vacuum part
854676;1412226903;asciilifeform;ah yes.
854677;1412226910;asciilifeform;i did not invent the principle.
854678;1412226915;asciilifeform;in fact, i didn't invent any of this.
854679;1412226933;Vexual;did you solve the glue dilemma?
854680;1412226950;Vexual;err paste
854681;1412226970;asciilifeform;Vexual: testing that piece presently. there shall be pictures.
854682;1412226987;asciilifeform;not nearly as shiny.
854683;1412226988;Vexual;those med guys are good at inventin shit coz people pay for it
854684;1412227011;asciilifeform;luers are 19th c. tech.
854685;1412227028;Vexual;someone got paid, im sure
854686;1412227070;asciilifeform;at any rate, hopefully answered the question of why simple-looking piece of junk had to be laboriously cut.
854687;1412227084;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2T2C7PE.txt )
854688;1412227084;BingoBoingo;!b 3
854689;1412227086;asciilifeform;decimation: yes, with that lathe. with what else.
854690;1412227097;decimation;asciilifeform: why not use a flexible tube?
854691;1412227103;Vexual;yes, i don't fully understand, but i kinda do
854692;1412227105;decimation;well, could have been cnc lathe
854693;1412227112;asciilifeform;decimation: i don't have a cnc lathe.
854694;1412227182;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Former plastic pistol dudes may have an offering for the offing... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/making-a-homemade-metal-semi-automatic-rifle-just-got-crazy-easy/
854695;1412227183;assbot;Making a homemade metal semi-automatic rifle just got crazy easy | Ars Technica
854696;1412227184;asciilifeform;decimation: flexible tube is annoying in various ways (can't rotate 360 deg.; wear around the connector ends; nonlinear resistance to turning, have to use gear train on stepper; etc)
854697;1412227224;decimation;yeah this is definitely a hardcore solution, probably higher quality than many pro pick'n place machines
854698;1412227255;asciilifeform;decimation: but very small.
854699;1412227290;decimation;I can see how a flex tube that pulls a decent vaccuum would interfere with a x/y positioner's movement
854700;1412227305;BingoBoingo;Pick and place is not a railroad
854701;1412227346;Vexual;building a railroad is pick and place
854702;1412227376;decimation;I wonder if there is a subtle 'puff' effect from flex tube as the vaccuum is released and the tube rebounds
854703;1412227411;asciilifeform;i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...)
854704;1412227424;asciilifeform;so everything must be done in the most painfully economical way.
854705;1412227431;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1CWQ9JT.txt )
854706;1412227431;BingoBoingo;!b 2
854707;1412227459;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If only I knew how unsafely spring 2013
854708;1412227463;asciilifeform;can't have a part machined, for example, unless there is no possibility of making it to spec with own hands (pcbs with soldermask, vias, hard gold - fall into this category)
854709;1412227473;asciilifeform;because NRE (nonrecoverable engineering cost) is deadly
854710;1412227491;Vexual;long game
854711;1412227542;decimation;well, the idea is that you are investing in the equipment required to build other products in the future, thus making the NRE "recoverable"
854712;1412227545;asciilifeform;i'm genuinely surprised no one wrote in to say 'madness'
854713;1412227604;decimation;it seems to me that the quantity that you are minimizing is your time investment
854714;1412227610;BingoBoingo;I can only imagine what the pressure is like when the penguin only has a 3-4 hour drive
854715;1412227612;decimation;otherwise wearable parts wouldnt' be a bother
854716;1412227635;asciilifeform;the pick'n'place cum pastelayer is the only cut to a 'gordian knot' - namely, can't have the boards populated at a genuine factory (prohibitive cost for small batches) - but can't populate by hand with acceptable yield (very fine-pitch components)
854717;1412227658;decimation;yeah the smallest smt parts are a bitch
854718;1412227658;Vexual;problem?
854719;1412227717;decimation;asciilifeform: what kind of precision are you trying to meet with your paste squirter?
854720;1412227718;asciilifeform;'how to eat the airplane? one piece at a time.'
854721;1412227721;Vexual;i can doo 400 an hour
854722;1412227728;decimation;as in, minimum pad sie
854723;1412227730;decimation;size
854724;1412227763;asciilifeform;decimation: 0.1mm
854725;1412227784;asciilifeform;(spatial)
854726;1412227790;asciilifeform;masswise: 1%
854727;1412227796;Vexual;yeah 20/hr at that
854728;1412227846;Vexual;have you been in some factories ascii?
854729;1412227851;decimation;that's impressive if you can achieve it. should be sufficient for most smt parts
854730;1412227866;asciilifeform;Vexual: been in factories << as a boy
854731;1412227892;asciilifeform;'long ago, in galaxy far away.'
854732;1412227894;Vexual;a week in shenzen might be a goos use of time
854733;1412227924;asciilifeform;Vexual: how all of this is done in 'adult' factory - is very well known. (anyone who gives a damn - find university library.) but won't help here.
854734;1412227937;Vexual;doesnt hurt to have a look
854735;1412227966;*;asciilifeform is very much familiar with the traditional setup
854736;1412227975;Vexual;nuff said
854737;1412227984;asciilifeform;precisely, as someone mentioned earlier, railroads
854738;1412227992;asciilifeform;model railroad is not physically much like an actual railroad.
854739;1412227993;decimation;I think you will safely beat these guys in quality http://hackaday.com/2014/09/24/pick-and-place-machines-at-maker-faire/
854740;1412227994;assbot;Pick and Place Machines at Maker Faire
854741;1412228016;asciilifeform;decimation: more importantly, is the fact that their machines cost money that i don't have.
854742;1412228023;asciilifeform;mine - costs mainly blood.
854743;1412228043;decimation;yean even the 'cheap' chinese one was like $4k I think
854744;1412228047;asciilifeform;yes.
854745;1412228054;asciilifeform;for very questionable performance.
854746;1412228059;decimation;although it did have some kind of reel feed
854747;1412228079;asciilifeform;reel feed is less important when machine is being driven semi-manually
854748;1412228093;asciilifeform;(coordinates for motion plus manual jogs)
854749;1412228102;asciilifeform;vs. machine vision
854750;1412228108;asciilifeform;(customary in adult production line)
854751;1412228110;decimation;so you plan on using it as a 'robot hand'
854752;1412228116;asciilifeform;'waldo' yes.
854753;1412228154;decimation;ok that makes sense, would be a good compromise for prototyping. it would be damn handy to hit a key to make the thing move 0.1mm instead of trying to finesse it
854754;1412228174;asciilifeform;unlike a purely mechanical pick'n'place (these exist), this one will have ability to return to preset coordinates.
854755;1412228194;Vexual;they have eyes yes?
854756;1412228233;decimation;there was a time when computers were a mechanical affair: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5P5faf7478 << model of "COLOSSUS" running at bletchley park
854757;1412228233;assbot;Colossus - Operational at Bletchley - YouTube
854758;1412228237;*;asciilifeform off to bed
854759;1412228293;Vexual;x0 y0
854760;1412228558;Vexual;thats my understanding, a humanlike thing approximates the position then uses a camera to fine tune
854761;1412228596;Vexual;but a drunk alone doesnt get far past the showroom
854762;1412229042;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/jasonlong/status/508617709954019328/photo/1
854763;1412229044;assbot;Movie hacking vs. real hacking http://t.co/Wt8yoJJ3VO
854764;1412229076;Vexual;bwahaha
854765;1412229446;Vexual;type ab knows what to do next
854766;1412229649;Vexual;http://kingsceleb.com/images/stories/hackers/Angelina_Jolie_-Hackers-4.jpg
854767;1412230470;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLaAvXU734 my dog is inside the piano
854768;1412230768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44456 @ 0.00074325 = 33.0419 BTC [-] {2}
854769;1412230829;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20574 @ 0.00074271 = 15.2805 BTC [-] {2}
854770;1412231016;Vexual;uefi?
854771;1412231927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2463 @ 0.00074222 = 1.8281 BTC [-]
854772;1412231944;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agb-BcZms8M blender success
854773;1412231991;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
854774;1412231992;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 382.48, Best ask: 383.51, Bid-ask spread: 1.03000, Last trade: 382.48, 24 hour volume: 11953.78368127, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 388.91, 24 hour vwap: 383.621626704
854775;1412232036;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/02/negative-security-your-local-pd-selling-holes-like-a-cheap-pimp/ << Hope this informa
854776;1412232036;assbot;Negative Security: Your Local PD Selling Holes Like A Cheap Pimp | Bingo Blog
854777;1412232177;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/02/negative-security-your-local-pd-selling-holes-like-a-cheap-pimp/
854778;1412232564;Vexual;ther's certainly more to that story
854779;1412232781;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00074222 = 5.2698 BTC [-]
854780;1412232852;Vexual;;;google pgp fidonet host:archive.today
854781;1412232853;gribble;FidoNet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Bulletin board system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; What is FidoNet? - Definition from WhatIs.com - SearchSOA:
854782;1412232889;Vexual;archive.today/4TVVa
854783;1412233061;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO6JVBoc6Mo
854784;1412233287;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YgZX9Thm0
854785;1412233452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17637 @ 0.00074221 = 13.0904 BTC [-] {2}
854786;1412233883;punkman;bitbet hacked yet?
854787;1412234105;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk
854788;1412234417;Vexual;do the yesno graphs all look the same?
854789;1412234458;Vexual;;;8ball
854790;1412234458;gribble;The outlook is good.
854791;1412234645;Vexual;is it possible to verify the deposit adds without the website?
854792;1412234794;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00074214 = 4.8981 BTC [-]
854793;1412234864;BingoBoingo;Hard say to
854794;1412234903;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI6zi2Oj1jo ak on your back fool
854795;1412235035;Vexual;peted better not bring any gun to oz
854796;1412235134;Vexual;no guns in the city
854797;1412235268;Vexual;you wanna shoot and dress roos fine
854798;1412235281;Vexual;do it in the bush
854799;1412235494;Vexual;its a peer to peer thing
854800;1412235746;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eptnB2tZd-0&
854801;1412235881;Vexual;loose tappets
854802;1412235892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00074398 = 9.7833 BTC [+]
854803;1412236020;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgnJDJN4VA
854804;1412236327;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQZ8piKtrJ8
854805;1412236598;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGyWxFL9nk remember the eighties?
854806;1412236978;Vexual;that was from weekend at burnies, meanwhile in australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E the recent minister for the environment and education
854807;1412237095;BingoBoingo;!up warptangent
854808;1412237154;Vexual;cool nick
854809;1412237318;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEvh-DZ-kE
854810;1412237372;Vexual;!up punkman1
854811;1412237458;punkman1;i should move to a new ISP
854812;1412237462;punkman1;or country
854813;1412237478;Vexual;slow or other shitness?
854814;1412237538;Vexual;i was all about iinet when i lived in perth
854815;1412237580;Vexual;they spent 60 million on lawers on the sourts fighting hollywood lawyer for other reasons
854816;1412237607;Vexual;they don't service this area unfortunately
854817;1412237607;punkman1;no piracy bullshit fortunately
854818;1412237656;Vexual;the guy startrted with 20 modems in his mums garage
854819;1412237709;punkman1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHW1ho8L7V8
854820;1412237709;assbot;The Dial Up Noise - YouTube
854821;1412237715;punkman1;a while since I've heard this
854822;1412237762;Vexual;is it all noise?
854823;1412237785;Vexual;is there a dubstep verison?
854824;1412237793;punkman1;probably
854825;1412237817;Vexual;whats wrong iwth your isp?
854826;1412237863;punkman1;makes me auth with gribble all the time
854827;1412237890;Vexual;i dont wanna tell you
854828;1412238016;RagnarDanneskjol;punkman1 https://github.com/vitepython/bitcoin-otc-auth
854829;1412238017;assbot;vitepython/bitcoin-otc-auth GitHub
854830;1412238051;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctlKeAwOSQ d4 damager
854831;1412238158;xanthyos;http://www.donkdown.com/media/DDRadio-2014-Oct-01_19_08_40.mp3 53 minutes in
854832;1412238235;Vexual;who is it?
854833;1412238558;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5J7-tMEsMU deep inna jungle
854834;1412238823;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JsBhRCRH0
854835;1412239131;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaEJVEpllc jimi hendrix rainbow bridge interview
854836;1412239218;xanthyos;67:12 "but i don't have any wiVES"
854837;1412239240;Vexual;wait are you playingt that shit back?
854838;1412239253;xanthyos;i missed it when it was live
854839;1412239258;xanthyos;caught link from a friend
854840;1412239270;Vexual;you linked it i herd it
854841;1412239279;xanthyos;yes i heard this point
854842;1412239296;Vexual;i met a man going to st ives
854843;1412239300;xanthyos;i like that he slips in the grammatic possibility of having multiple wives
854844;1412239349;Vexual;his girlfriends kinda hot
854845;1412239600;Vexual;i think the interviwer pushed him tno talking about guns
854846;1412239667;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc
854847;1412239809;Vexual;or perhaps he thinks violece is worth thinking about
854848;1412239856;dub;i think listening to those tards makes you a tard
854849;1412239888;Vexual;me too
854850;1412239912;xanthyos;listening to podcasts turns you into a podcaster
854851;1412239918;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15553 @ 0.00074411 = 11.5731 BTC [+] {2}
854852;1412240299;Vexual;what poscasts do you listen to?
854853;1412240342;Vexual;personally im busy with my own interal maxilogue
854854;1412240386;cazalla;and http://qntra.net/ is live with some content
854855;1412240387;assbot;Qntra.net - #1 for bitcoin news
854856;1412240411;Vexual;no css?
854857;1412240427;Vexual;classbot
854858;1412240473;Vexual;strike that, i just saw "jizz moppers" in a headline
854859;1412240529;Vexual;and it inherantly unreadable
854860;1412240549;Vexual;a's for e's
854861;1412240573;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/517600538670923776
854862;1412240575;assbot;/hashtag/GAWMiners?src=hash Jizz moppers of the highest order http://t.co/tYRt13UnHc
854863;1412240597;Vexual;i never knew fluffy pony was gawminer tho
854864;1412240617;Vexual;scoop
854865;1412240623;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1QQJGDM.txt )
854866;1412240623;BingoBoingo;!b 3
854867;1412240696;dub;what are you, the NSA?
854868;1412240778;BingoBoingo;?
854869;1412240796;dub;logging all the chats
854870;1412240805;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiqMQaVvomk tricky abbaon fat track v&
854871;1412240955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6675 @ 0.00074464 = 4.9705 BTC [+]
854872;1412241076;Vexual;can i make a suggestion without offending indelicates?
854873;1412241091;Vexual;newsprint is black
854874;1412241124;Vexual;headlines included
854875;1412241234;Vexual;blue makes me think ive clicked it
854876;1412241272;cazalla;isn't that purple?
854877;1412241285;Vexual;whatever
854878;1412241352;Vexual;you're making a newspaper
854879;1412241570;Vexual;theme is important
854880;1412241588;cazalla;why ya gotta be critical Vexual, can't you just focus on the positive and ignore the bad, ya know, like losing your investment with gawminers?
854881;1412241634;Vexual;im tring to be positive, i should have mentioned i love the real html
854882;1412241686;cazalla;well, BingoBoingo suggested the theme and i just jacked his style.css and tweaked it
854883;1412241700;Vexual;its awesome
854884;1412241710;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
854885;1412241884;Vexual;critisism is oly coz im trying to get on board the a train
854886;1412242043;dub;you know what a news site needs? a trollbox
854887;1412242146;Vexual;also tits
854888;1412242164;dub;page 3 girls
854889;1412242198;Vexual;indeed
854890;1412242329;Vexual;might as well if your selling opinion
854891;1412242572;Vexual;and or news
854892;1412242587;Vexual;tits=hits
854893;1412242705;Vexual;nothings changed since '92
854894;1412242811;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Uxlvk9UZA
854895;1412243379;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThxOsGgnxN8 rhum diaries, the bet
854896;1412243690;fluffypony;Vexual: I don't mop jizz, yo
854897;1412243695;fluffypony;I'm a creator not a cleaner
854898;1412243704;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EmD32AQzaQ sounds rack root the doors who do you love
854899;1412243715;Vexual;i know this fluffs
854900;1412243730;Vexual;respecty
854901;1412243782;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztq3J7bkaxg
854902;1412243783;assbot;JJ - still - YouTube
854903;1412243829;fluffypony;:-P
854904;1412243841;Vexual;pm dawn and dre, genius
854905;1412243892;Vexual;unseen philosiphers too
854906;1412243929;Vexual;whats new in monero?
854907;1412244013;fluffypony;we have a new research bulletin out (well, officially out on Monday)
854908;1412244022;fluffypony;http://lab.monero.cc/pubs/MRL-0003.pdf
854909;1412244046;punkman;sold all my monero before the drop, time to buy again?
854910;1412244051;fluffypony;overview of ring signatures as they're implmeneted in Monero
854911;1412244057;fluffypony;and we have a Python implementation of it
854912;1412244072;fluffypony;punkman: yeah, pretty sure we've bottomed out with Bitcoin
854913;1412244078;fluffypony;but I suck at TA stuff
854914;1412244087;Vexual;i saw you sell
854915;1412244150;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_to5E_sRY heres what happens if you change one letter
854916;1412244200;fluffypony;lol
854917;1412244210;fluffypony;that or this - http://www.coindesk.com/latin-american-bitcoin-startup-moneero-exits-stealth-mode/
854918;1412244210;assbot;Latin American Bitcoin Startup Moneero Exits Stealth Mode
854919;1412244214;fluffypony;SUCH STEALTH.
854920;1412244309;punkman;the endless horde of wallet inspectors
854921;1412244418;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW-9TcDTKa8
854922;1412244419;assbot;JJ DOOM - GUV'NOR - YouTube
854923;1412244514;dub;doom is such a good advert for wot
854924;1412244522;punkman;do tell
854925;1412244541;Vexual;i enjoi this
854926;1412244545;dub;he likes to send lookalikes to play gigs
854927;1412244857;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIrzbhEGvs
854928;1412245767;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uirMvBLvX9k
854929;1412245767;assbot;OY - "Market Place" (official music video) - YouTube
854930;1412246188;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQYZ67GOEs
854931;1412246557;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNeS1kWwykM ragga in the jungle
854932;1412246579;Vexual;whops too many hours
854933;1412246655;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNeS1kWwykM
854934;1412246664;Vexual;damn
854935;1412246717;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q9wBXVYnZg lady saw ive got you man
854936;1412246931;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMx-CugZspI such goulash
854937;1412247159;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6tQB5JL2g4 fluffypony lieks it
854938;1412247566;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRzlbh4or3c
854939;1412247566;assbot;King Krule - Easy Easy (Official Video) - YouTube
854940;1412247570;punkman;lunch time
854941;1412247838;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2FiYq55oac
854942;1412248347;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxOMvjyqiyU
854943;1412248582;Vexual;that will offend slovakistans lesbians
854944;1412249137;chetty;http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396426,senate-to-launch-bitcoin-inquiry.aspx?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=iTnews+
854945;1412249139;assbot;Senate to launch Bitcoin inquiry - Finance - News - iTnews.com.au
854946;1412249472;Vexual;vex trusts, no whoring
854947;1412249544;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dErOtoQaPY
854948;1412249792;Vexual;theres usuaally singin in karaoke
854949;1412249862;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Fncn-DjgM
854950;1412249932;mircea_popescu;how goes vex
854951;1412249954;Vexual;bloold type o
854952;1412249961;Vexual;pint two
854953;1412250016;Vexual;other than that im well
854954;1412250047;Vexual;et ou?
854955;1412250050;mircea_popescu;makes sense.
854956;1412250057;mircea_popescu;i'm fine too!
854957;1412250064;Vexual;fabulous
854958;1412250086;Vexual;that reminds me of a song :0
854959;1412250137;Vexual;been to any boss resturants of alte?
854960;1412250162;Vexual;i need recipies
854961;1412250237;mircea_popescu;;;google ciulama de pui cu mamaliguta
854962;1412250238;gribble;CIULAMA DE PUI CU USTUROI - Edith's Kitchen: ; Reteta Ciulama de pui - Horia Virlan - YouTube: ; Ciulama de pui - YouTube:
854963;1412250248;mircea_popescu;just had that yest. rocks.
854964;1412250488;Vexual;some sorta comfort food?
854965;1412250517;Vexual;fried chicken with thick white sauce?
854966;1412250544;Vexual;potato?
854967;1412250745;Vexual;smoked pirhana with 4 metric fucktonne of relaxed spinach in butter, icy radish
854968;1412250764;mircea_popescu;basically.
854969;1412250783;Vexual;no wonder youre buling up
854970;1412250789;Vexual;*bulking
854971;1412250805;Vexual;prolly kick my arse
854972;1412250848;Vexual;what do the indians ea for starch?
854973;1412250865;Vexual;yams or soemthing?
854974;1412250887;punkman;I'd try piranha, is it good?
854975;1412250917;mats_cd03;rice i imagine
854976;1412250993;Vexual;cant get it in the city, it's al salmon
854977;1412251046;punkman;these make nice soup too http://sailrockdiversresort.com/wp-content/wp-uploads/2012/05/giant-moray.jpg
854978;1412251052;punkman;vicious little fuckers
854979;1412251089;Vexual;barb to the afce will sort it
854980;1412251106;Vexual;fish cakes
854981;1412251200;Vexual;what kinda strett food do you get?
854982;1412251230;punkman;here's an easy recipe for you vex http://i.imgur.com/JCHHTCV.jpg
854983;1412251262;Vexual;mmm cappachio
854984;1412251276;Vexual;id eat the fuck outta that
854985;1412251360;mircea_popescu;how does one eat the fuck out of something that contained no fuck to begin with ?
854986;1412251364;punkman;just make a pile of meat put it in the oven http://i.imgur.com/OSt7mO9.jpg
854987;1412251379;Vexual;the fuck comes at the end of the meal
854988;1412251379;mircea_popescu;;;ud cappachio
854989;1412251380;gribble;Google found nothing.
854990;1412251401;mircea_popescu;no wai ?!
854991;1412251402;punkman;no, fuck comes before the meal, work up an appetite
854992;1412251433;Vexual;i dunno how to spell it, call it a problem
854993;1412251465;mircea_popescu;carpaccio :p
854994;1412251475;Vexual;yjayt it
854995;1412251519;mircea_popescu;(it's a recent invention tho, that name)
854996;1412251531;Vexual;is it?
854997;1412251549;Vexual;what did it used to be called?
854998;1412251601;mircea_popescu;it used to be called... raw meat
854999;1412251602;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.abc.net.au/tv/cookandchef/txt/s1900430.htm
855000;1412251602;assbot;The Story of Carpaccio - ABC TV: The Cook and the Chef
855001;1412251605;mircea_popescu;carne cruda a la this or the other
855002;1412251613;Vexual;lol
855003;1412251645;Vexual;that picture actuaally looks like something uncooked
855004;1412251710;cazalla;RagnarDanneskjol, good tv show that
855005;1412251723;RagnarDanneskjol;hmm
855006;1412251888;cazalla;better than mats_cd03 recommendation of hannibal tv series, watched first episode and zzzz
855007;1412251983;mats_cd03;watch more
855008;1412252112;mats_cd03;hannibal has 8.9/10 user score on metacritic
855009;1412252137;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26pleg/guess_whos_twitter_account_got_suspended/
855010;1412252137;assbot;Guess who's Twitter account got suspended? : Bitcoin
855011;1412252142;mircea_popescu;dude check out all the history i didn't know!
855012;1412252160;mircea_popescu;so, the top mod on reddit is actually that dubious camwhore from dooglus' site back when ?
855013;1412252177;mircea_popescu;i think i still have pictures of her cunt with a large wooden implement shoved in for five bucks or w/e it was
855014;1412252188;mircea_popescu;AND she has a hardon for me ? still ?!
855015;1412252212;mircea_popescu;AND there's an entire reddit community dedicating to reading trilema and stroking it to just how bad it is ?
855016;1412252231;mircea_popescu;"A rich douchebag that does one nice thing isn't absolved from all his/her sins."
855017;1412252232;mats_cd03;snackman is still pissed
855018;1412252236;mats_cd03;best part
855019;1412252256;mircea_popescu;o.O what sins lmao. poor fuckwits imagining rich people are rich because of their "sins" ? yeah, sure, gimme sum o dat.
855020;1412252267;mircea_popescu;poor people are poor because of their sins!!!11eleventy.
855021;1412252285;mircea_popescu;if they weren't unclean in the eyes of the lord, the holy dollarghost'd give them some moneyz too!
855022;1412252322;mircea_popescu;"The problem is that his social skills are... well... different from what the majority of redditors and bitcointalkers are used to dealing with."
855023;1412252323;mircea_popescu;lolk.
855024;1412252386;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvWqg2WcEU&list=PLB178D93450D7B666
855025;1412252451;mircea_popescu;"MP reminds me of a spoilt fat little toddler I used to know, if he didnt get what he wanted he would simply scream until the whole world knew he was upset and that he didnt have what he wanted."
855026;1412252463;mircea_popescu;heh, that's actually exactly right. god fucking help you if i'm displeased.
855027;1412252491;mircea_popescu;the controlling point here being that just because no toddler should be in control of the world, it doesn't follow that nobody should be.
855028;1412252515;mircea_popescu;that's how it works : for things to exist you gotta have some people whose screams can scourge the very mouth of hell.
855029;1412252589;Azelphur;that just made me imagine MP having a temper tantrum, that'd be funny
855030;1412252608;mircea_popescu;that's what you think until you actually see one.
855031;1412252613;Azelphur;haha
855032;1412252679;mircea_popescu;i never realised people could think of toddlers in terms of fat/skinny.
855033;1412252689;mircea_popescu;i wonder if that guy frequents toddler pageants.
855034;1412252694;Vexual;arent they all fat?
855035;1412252704;mircea_popescu;ikr?
855036;1412252733;mircea_popescu;mebbe kate moss had one with alex anores meanwhile ruining the bar for everyone or who the fuck knows
855037;1412252742;mircea_popescu;these people are always up to some progress or other.
855038;1412252820;mircea_popescu;xanthyos: he didn't force me to show him my penis <<< shit dude, my doctor keeps sticking his finger up my butt ;/ I KNEW THIS WAS SUSPICIOUS!
855039;1412252854;Azelphur;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKTE75dgE4 I have a link for everything.
855040;1412252854;assbot;Family Guy - Prostate Exam - YouTube
855041;1412252883;mircea_popescu;Azelphur you know they can tell if you've had sex recently ?
855042;1412252897;Azelphur;haha, I did not
855043;1412252986;Vexual;yeah hes asleep
855044;1412253043;Vexual;don't wanke him up, theres no telling what he dreams
855045;1412253052;mircea_popescu;decimation: this is a rarity in usg, where someone says "I am responsible" and they are fired << the way i understand it, the us works by firing. so originally people were disincentivised from taking responsibility, in the hopes of avoiding it. as it didn't work... you'll be seeing more and more of that behaviour.
855046;1412253069;mircea_popescu;ALSO incredibly soviet, this. a strange sort of pseudomoral purism run amock.
855047;1412253091;mircea_popescu;;;seen asciilifeform
855048;1412253092;gribble;asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: * asciilifeform off to bed
855049;1412253176;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: <+xanthyos> "neil degrasse tyson is an idiot" (michael dean) << he's right << you two should stop diluting the term idiot through calling annoying people idiots. not the same thing.
855050;1412253201;Vexual;thankyou
855051;1412253203;mircea_popescu;dub: micon is famous for confronting inaba like a frightened girl and running a scam poker site << he dun run it, but yeh lol.
855052;1412253262;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: what about MP? << his knowledge of bitcoin reality doesn't extend all the way to mp.
855053;1412253270;mircea_popescu;also you'll notice i don't exactly do the conference circuit.
855054;1412253305;artifexd; AND there's an entire reddit community dedicating to reading trilema and stroking it to just how bad it is ? << Which subreddit is that?
855055;1412253320;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: my problem with seals is that the admins are in denial that they cannot possibly ban their way to a collusion-free poker environment, and refuse to integrate the Web of Trust to allow users to control who they play against <<< this being a two year old business idea i had that nobody i talked to wants to implement because whatever, too busy chasing the "retainer" 1200 dollah a month sort of thing.
855056;1412253332;mircea_popescu;but you happen to be exactly correct, that's the only way to fight it.
855057;1412253364;mircea_popescu;artifexd well i dunno it;'s an actual subreddit, but the sheer volume of people that know various details, had ready trilema quotes etc.
855058;1412253374;artifexd;Ah
855059;1412253425;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: that guy that is talking to micon is pure scammer << the us talkspace is pretty much populated by scammers by now.
855060;1412253464;mircea_popescu;just like the porn space is populated by strippers and whores, who figure they can charge more / will get better custom if they are now "pornstars", just so would-be scammers in the us feel the overpowering need to have a tv show/radio show etc.
855061;1412253487;mircea_popescu;it all started in the 80s with those god awful late night cable channels, and thirty years later it pretty much took over "mainstream"
855062;1412253595;mircea_popescu;which is why as carlin/carson/stern etc are going out of old age, there's nobody to replace them. you get stuck with cancerous filth a la that oliver douche.
855063;1412253692;mircea_popescu;course when it comes time to collect they still need a scammer to shill for (and many just spend their time shilling for the biggest scammer of all, the govt, in exchange for whatever scraps), but still. a poisonous atmosphere.
855064;1412253716;punkman;stanhope coming to argentina?
855065;1412253762;mircea_popescu;punkman never answered. because you know, that's how you book shows x.x
855066;1412254116;Vexual;this ndrangheta music is really hte best there is
855067;1412254117;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/CmtqQ << blood, sweat, and... brass. <<< now make one out of bras.
855068;1412254117;assbot;vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
855069;1412254146;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: 'nothing sucks like Electrolux. (tm)' <<< romanian washing machine and vacuum cleanne rbrand ?!
855070;1412254395;Vexual;trak 11 sounds real killer
855071;1412254430;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: needed - this size. << im waiting patiently for asciilifeform to make his own model m, inch and 3/4 across.
855072;1412254506;Vexual;have you been to sicily mp?
855073;1412254531;mircea_popescu;yeah.
855074;1412254542;Vexual;what do you eat there?
855075;1412254558;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25322 @ 0.00074479 = 18.8596 BTC [+] {2}
855076;1412254567;mircea_popescu;so i was reading the logs with bated breath, waiting for to see bitbet being hacked. what sort of scam pentesting was this!
855077;1412254573;mircea_popescu;Vexual women.
855078;1412254577;mircea_popescu;same as i do everywhere.
855079;1412254609;mircea_popescu;decimation: yeah this is definitely a hardcore solution, probably higher quality than many pro pick'n place machines << well, than any pnp place THIS SIZE, fo sho.
855080;1412254703;mircea_popescu;decimation: well, the idea is that you are investing in the equipment required to build other products in the future, thus making the NRE "recoverable" << conversely, he is contributing a scary amount of value to the company.
855081;1412254720;Vexual;such hours
855082;1412254721;mircea_popescu;in the shapes of costs that'd be "recoverable" had they been booked, but are pure profit as they weren't.
855083;1412254788;Vexual;nubbins`: another foodie
855084;1412254795;nubbins`;betting against s.mg: slowest 0.74btc i ever made
855085;1412254804;nubbins`;http://bitbet.us/bet/791/s-mg-above-2x-par-on-october-1st-2014/
855086;1412254804;assbot;BitBet - S.MG above 2x par on October 1st, 2014 :: 1.18 B (8%) on Yes, 14.07 B (92%) on No | closed 2 days 13 hours ago
855087;1412254816;Vexual;how many haours you got eating raw meat?
855088;1412254828;nubbins`;between three and five, as a guess
855089;1412254841;Vexual;shit i must be over 100
855090;1412254850;nubbins`;it's less readily available here
855091;1412254852;Vexual;i savour
855092;1412254858;nubbins`;no wallabies in the backyards
855093;1412254879;mircea_popescu;http://www.infobae.com/2014/10/02/1598909-ya-son-tres-los-barcos-metaneros-varados-la-falta-dolares << if anyone's curious for a little bit of local flavour.
855094;1412254879;assbot;Ya son tres los barcos metaneros varados por la falta de dlares | Gas Natural Licuado, Puertos, Combustibles - Infobae
855095;1412254881;Vexual;beef or fish
855096;1412254898;mircea_popescu;the fact : bout 150k tons of gpl are stuck in an argentine port, waiting.
855097;1412254906;Vexual;marsupials have worms
855098;1412254916;Vexual;gotta cook it
855099;1412254921;mircea_popescu;the clarin spin (newspaper group bitterly opposed to government) : no money, economy in dissaray, disaster, mismanagement.
855100;1412254925;nubbins`;no kidding, we had a job come up a couple weeks ago, t-shirts for a sushi place. uniforms. male uniforms have a picture of a sushi roll and "fresh good food" underneath. female uniforms just say "I LIKE IT RAW" in huge letters
855101;1412254939;mircea_popescu;the k spin (kirshner, govt dinasty here) : no need for it because it was very warm this winter, so nyah.
855102;1412254971;Vexual;is it down?
855103;1412255002;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you know, inept management thinking it's being "edgy" needs a bitchslap.
855104;1412255007;mircea_popescu;who the fuck makes women go around in that.
855105;1412255007;chetty;yesterday Kirshner went on a rant that usg was trying to assassinate her and bring down govt here
855106;1412255019;nubbins`;mircea_popescu we refused to print them D:
855107;1412255021;mircea_popescu;chetty i wouldn't be surprised if the usg was in fact trying to assasinate her.
855108;1412255025;Vexual;funny i read and comprehend spanish at a similar rate to english
855109;1412255037;mircea_popescu;nubbins` good for you, seriously.
855110;1412255046;chetty;mircea_popescu, seriously? why bother?
855111;1412255058;Vexual;funny coz it's not ture
855112;1412255075;Vexual;i see embargo
855113;1412255076;mircea_popescu;chetty you know they're fucking idiots. this would be the what, 20th pointless, ineffectual similar attempt ?
855114;1412255077;nubbins`;5 mens uniforms (out of 60) also wanted "i like it raw", i guess they were gonna keep those in case they hired 5 gay men
855115;1412255091;mats_cd03;lol
855116;1412255091;mircea_popescu;basically for the same reason they do all the profilgate nonsense with the "president's security"
855117;1412255105;mircea_popescu;buncha hicks got some hardware wanna realise their action movie fantasies
855118;1412255140;chetty;I would think usg has enough stuffs on it plate without bothering but I guess there could be people with 'ideas'
855119;1412255181;nubbins`;oh! and in unrelated news, my province no longer has a department of justice, and an unelected private citizen was put in the seat of attorney general
855120;1412255181;mircea_popescu;anyway, she's old and sickly, that makes people paranoid, she always was a shy overcautious type,
855121;1412255186;nubbins`;she "can't see what the fuss is about"
855122;1412255188;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/judy-manning-surprised-by-questions-about-pc-party-connections-1.2784626
855123;1412255188;assbot;Judy Manning 'surprised' by questions about PC party connections - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
855124;1412255190;mircea_popescu;the local secret service is a monument to incompetence
855125;1412255194;mircea_popescu;who knows what they told her.
855126;1412255205;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITLNzPoEqs odb would but the whole batch
855127;1412255232;mircea_popescu;nubbins` is this the ex chelsea ex bradley dood ?
855128;1412255235;Vexual;but he died from crack realted fuckups
855129;1412255252;nubbins`;mp afaik he cannot run for public office in any country
855130;1412255310;mircea_popescu;who ? why ?
855131;1412255314;nubbins`;Vexual watch this painful interview where some MTV knob tries to interview odb
855132;1412255315;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3ZPcA4tjQ
855133;1412255316;assbot;Ol' Dirty Bastard funny interview - YouTube
855134;1412255316;Vexual;have you seen deadmaus getting cofee with the mayor of toronto?
855135;1412255333;Vexual;okay
855136;1412255345;nubbins`;fuck the mayor of toronto
855137;1412255367;Vexual;its good read nubs you should have a look
855138;1412255408;Vexual;deadmaud pick him up in his ferarri, he tells the minder to ge fucked outta town and he does his thing
855139;1412255423;Vexual;orders a triple and a double in one cup
855140;1412255437;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: SUCH STEALTH. <<< wait how is it "latin american" ?!
855141;1412255481;mircea_popescu;http://media.coindesk.com/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-03-at-4.40.08-PM-300x185.png << wtf. screenshot of what ? how is this related to some bitcoin corp.
855142;1412255500;nubbins`;<+Vexual> orders a triple and a double in one cup <<< my sides, my actual sides
855143;1412255503;mircea_popescu;cazalla if you put up random stock footage of dressed uruguayan chicks ima kill you
855144;1412255505;Vexual;deadmaud uses all his gforces on the fat fuck, he knows he wont get done for speed
855145;1412255516;nubbins`;Vexual you have no idea how canadian what you just said was
855146;1412255523;Vexual;i do
855147;1412255541;Vexual;i watched the vid and adsorbed it (no typo)
855148;1412255597;*;nubbins` considers this
855149;1412255601;Vexual;mm
855150;1412255608;nubbins`;y'know, i've never actually had a triple double
855151;1412255612;nubbins`;i've never even had a double double
855152;1412255645;nubbins`;i would, however, advance the opinion that if you're putting three cream and two sugar in your coffee, the quality of said coffee is of little import
855153;1412255663;Vexual;oh no, this was five espressos
855154;1412255671;nubbins`;o o o
855155;1412255678;nubbins`;yeah man, i used to get those on the regular.
855156;1412255679;Vexual;cunts a crackhead
855157;1412255683;nubbins`;this is how i got into caffeine
855158;1412255706;nubbins`;5-shot caramel americano
855159;1412255718;Vexual;odb dont interview too well
855160;1412255721;nubbins`;nope
855161;1412255740;nubbins`;another good one:
855162;1412255740;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysYI1FkP6r0
855163;1412255740;assbot;Ol' Dirty Bastard On YO! MTV Raps - YouTube
855164;1412255772;mircea_popescu;what ! that show still exists ?!
855165;1412255800;Vexual;hes been dead a while
855166;1412255803;nubbins`;odb: "i just wanted to let y'all know that everything is real"
855167;1412255808;nubbins`;yeah he died when i was in uni
855168;1412255813;nubbins`;i remember where i was when i found out
855169;1412255830;Vexual;lol
855170;1412255869;nubbins`;1:40 "i was up all night hittin' ice" lel
855171;1412255869;Vexual;one of two famous crackheads
855172;1412255886;Vexual;lol
855173;1412255910;nubbins`;he starts freestyling at 2:45
855174;1412255915;nubbins`;actually amazing
855175;1412255915;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
855176;1412255921;Vexual;ive never seenthis
855177;1412255950;Vexual;im abot 23 seconds after
855178;1412255986;mircea_popescu;nubbins` ah okay, you're watching an old show
855179;1412255990;Vexual;elected
855180;1412256000;mircea_popescu;totally threw me for a loop, i was all "wait, isn't mtv bankrupt and that guy dead ?!"
855181;1412256000;nubbins`;yeah this was i guess mid 90s
855182;1412256024;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs famous hit
855183;1412256063;nubbins`;anyway, i listen to a lot of different types of music in a lot of different genres, but if you don't think odb is a musical genius, you either haven't listened to enough or you don't have taste
855184;1412256077;mircea_popescu;yeah he's the zappa of rap.
855185;1412256084;mircea_popescu;the wutangs of invention!
855186;1412256087;nubbins`;heh
855187;1412256093;nubbins`;the captain beefheart of hip-hop!
855188;1412256095;Vexual;insight
855189;1412256122;*;mircea_popescu has nfi who cpt beefheart is
855190;1412256140;Vexual;watch the deadmaus vid, he drives it hard and the mayor says don't worry
855191;1412256157;Vexual;they talk about potholes
855192;1412256181;Vexual;4014 and shit
855193;1412256364;nubbins`;mircea_popescu a zappa protege
855194;1412256385;nubbins`;zappa produced his first few albums, same type of strange but way more aleotoric
855195;1412256394;nubbins`;*aleatoric
855196;1412256430;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Iy71Qwe6E
855197;1412256431;assbot;Captain Beefheart - When I See Mommy I Feel Like A Mummy - YouTube
855198;1412256491;nubbins`;tom waits started experimenting with the gravelly side of his voice after being introduced to captain beefheart by his wife
855199;1412256539;Vexual;didnt zapaa get ass cancer?
855200;1412256565;Vexual;troll cough
855201;1412256586;nubbins`;not sure
855202;1412256587;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxBppgIB0w
855203;1412256587;assbot;Matt Groening on Trout Mask Replica - YouTube
855204;1412256594;Vexual;he did
855205;1412256627;nubbins`;TBH i still find trout mask replica pretty inaccessible
855206;1412256637;nubbins`;doc at the radar station is a better introduction
855207;1412256651;Vexual;call it whatevr you like
855208;1412256686;Vexual;he keeps it real to this day
855209;1412256692;*;nubbins` shakes head
855210;1412256695;nubbins`;captain beefheart, also dead
855211;1412256708;Vexual;whoa never seen a shake
855212;1412256711;nubbins`;i think within the past couple years?
855213;1412256718;nubbins`;;;google don van vliet
855214;1412256719;gribble;Captain Beefheart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Don Van Vliet Quotes - BrainyQuote: ; Don Van Vliet - Bill Lowe Gallery:
855215;1412256721;Vexual;zappas still alive
855216;1412256746;nubbins`;pickled himself
855217;1412256765;Vexual;who beefheart?
855218;1412256786;nubbins`;zappa
855219;1412256797;nubbins`;how else can he still be kicking
855220;1412256800;Vexual;i thought he was still alive
855221;1412256820;Vexual;remmy is still alive
855222;1412256871;nubbins`;i thought remmy died in 2010
855223;1412256894;nubbins`;Vexual you'll appreciate this
855224;1412256895;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6awYn56IWQ
855225;1412256896;assbot;Fela Kuti and The Africa 70 with Ginger Baker - Live (1971) - YouTube
855226;1412256900;Vexual;nah, motorhead
855227;1412256904;nubbins`;oh lemmy
855228;1412256908;nubbins`;yeah, he still plays the slots
855229;1412256915;Vexual;lol
855230;1412256938;Vexual;thats racist
855231;1412256957;nubbins`;hey now!
855232;1412256985;Vexual;not yor vi, th eslots reference
855233;1412257005;nubbins`;i mean the whaps!
855234;1412257009;nubbins`;one-arm thieves!
855235;1412257012;Vexual;whaps?
855236;1412257015;nubbins`;(they dont have arms anymore)
855237;1412257018;Vexual;oh
855238;1412257020;nubbins`;Vexual onomatopeia
855239;1412257027;nubbins`;from slapping the buttons
855240;1412257028;Vexual;do you have eskimos?
855241;1412257037;nubbins`;not personally
855242;1412257041;Vexual;ouch
855243;1412257070;nubbins`;they're called inuit here, eskimo is considered a perjorative
855244;1412257088;Vexual;;;ud meximo
855245;1412257090;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Meximo | 3. Meximo. A gay person of Mexican decent. Mexican Homo. "And I'm a greasy Meximo so that'll be, to say the least, tricky." by super_janna November 19, 2009.
855246;1412257202;Vexual;ud wrong agin
855247;1412257380;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6UG89CA9TA meskimo
855248;1412257426;thestringpuller;Vexual: graces us with his presence
855249;1412257443;Vexual;ive been here for 14 hours
855250;1412257456;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYC0cT-sYBw
855251;1412257456;assbot;Making vacuum rotor ('Sherline' micro-lathe) - YouTube
855252;1412257486;*;asciilifeform now posted what may be least interesting film on the net
855253;1412257487;mircea_popescu;is that yours ?
855254;1412257489;nubbins`;it's true, he was here when i went to bed.
855255;1412257492;asciilifeform;yes, that one.
855256;1412257500;mircea_popescu;cool!
855257;1412257502;asciilifeform;yes, it's scarcely larger than sewing machine
855258;1412257512;nubbins`;asciilifeform less interesting than the woman filming the microwave timer?
855259;1412257517;asciilifeform;and, interestingly, made in usa (ancient german patent, i think)
855260;1412257552;asciilifeform;microwave timer ?
855261;1412257596;*;asciilifeform once actually filmed indicator lights on refrigerator, using high speed camera (verified they were, indeed, oscillating, because someone should've failed electrical school)
855262;1412257609;nubbins`;asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/user/vihartvihart/videos
855263;1412257609;assbot;vihartvihart's channel - YouTube
855264;1412257679;nubbins`;great when you're at a party and you feel like people would enjoy a countdown
855265;1412257689;nubbins`;anyway, nice lathe. you could turn body jewelry on that thing
855266;1412257696;asciilifeform;some folks do.
855267;1412257702;asciilifeform;these are reasonably common.
855268;1412257705;*;nubbins` nods
855269;1412257720;asciilifeform;http://www.sherline.com << vendor
855270;1412257721;assbot;Sherline Products - mini lathes, mills and machine tool accessories
855271;1412257724;nubbins`;the tricky bit is internally-threading 16ga stock
855272;1412257730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5328 @ 0.00074214 = 3.9541 BTC [-]
855273;1412257798;asciilifeform;nubbins`: normal people do that with taps
855274;1412257806;Vexual;you can always make smoking implements if you fall on hard times
855275;1412257812;asciilifeform;lol
855276;1412257818;nubbins`;asciilifeform: yep... it's tricky 8)
855277;1412257830;asciilifeform;those are so common, every man woman and child in usa can get own pipe right now from existing inventory, most likely.
855278;1412257840;asciilifeform;sold in just about every shop of any description.
855279;1412257846;*;nubbins` nods
855280;1412257852;nubbins`;5/8" socket: bowl
855281;1412257853;Vexual;the rain never falls on one mans head
855282;1412257967;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vM3EI9-s4 bob marley so much things to say
855283;1412258032;Vexual;it don't fall on on mans house is the line that'll have the cia kill you
855284;1412258094;nubbins`;time waits for no man
855285;1412258129;Vexual;everyman thinks his burden is the heaviest
855286;1412258188;mats_cd03;id trust you about as far as i could throw you
855287;1412258227;Vexual;dont fuck with the government
855288;1412258303;nubbins`;loose lips shake hips
855289;1412258307;Vexual;if your thongs break, don't worry about it
855290;1412258383;Vexual;man who walk sideways thru security always going to bankok
855291;1412258456;Vexual;if you dint do it tell it to em
855292;1412258556;mircea_popescu; loose lips shake hips << wait wut
855293;1412258576;nubbins`;:D
855294;1412258592;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/white-woman-sues-sperm-bank-after-insemination-from-black-donor-1.2785073
855295;1412258592;assbot;White woman sues sperm bank after insemination from black donor - World - CBC News
855296;1412258594;nubbins`;imagine
855297;1412258604;Vexual;nubbins`: mustache has a website
855298;1412258632;Vexual;its on his tshirt
855299;1412258658;Vexual;and im chanelling zappa
855300;1412258667;Vexual;how embarrasing
855301;1412258793;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-LArv-sEQU
855302;1412259022;Vexual;epigenetic effects are gonna be a thing nao
855303;1412259085;Vexual;grody to the max
855304;1412259263;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk ;esbians love it
855305;1412259291;Vexual;pussy eating anthem
855306;1412259440;nubbins`;mircea_popescu this ^ is another example of "rap rave", a la die antwoord
855307;1412259468;Vexual;blaah not likely
855308;1412259568;Vexual;its definately a very skilled tongue from brooklyn; ergot rap
855309;1412259585;nubbins`;ergot rap
855310;1412259615;TomServo;"rap rave" comon now. Everybody gets their own genres.
855311;1412259647;mthreat;http://i.imgur.com/kH9cY9w.jpg - who says romance is dead?
855312;1412259691;nubbins`;mthreat ahahahahha
855313;1412259721;nubbins`;TE AMO LOCO
855314;1412259725;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-great-sf-premise/
855315;1412259730;nubbins`;ME PINCHE CULO
855316;1412259764;nubbins`;*mi
855317;1412259911;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1PaSn60KSw
855318;1412259971;nubbins`;is this from a playlist where women list NYC area codes or something
855319;1412260051;Vexual;yes lesbians from 212
855320;1412260133;Vexual;actuly im not sure about what what
855321;1412260242;Vexual;but she does call herself what waht
855322;1412260346;pete_dushenski;howdy!
855323;1412260383;pete_dushenski;speaking of hilariously shitty advertising… gotta love the yahoo! finance ads for "date a rich woman"
855324;1412260386;pete_dushenski;http://imgur.com/cYd3jrU
855325;1412260386;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
855326;1412260397;pete_dushenski;cuz that's how happiness works
855327;1412260424;pete_dushenski;link goes to : http://www.mature-qualitysingles.com/
855328;1412260425;assbot;Meet Mature Quality Singles in Your Area
855329;1412260456;Vexual;dude
855330;1412260532;Vexual;e equals mc to the lt 253
855331;1412260554;Vexual;no granny on the moon okay?
855332;1412260618;nubbins`;pete_dushenski "successful, financially independent women are so utterly unable to find male companionship that they've resorted to finding randon strangers on the internet"
855333;1412260620;nubbins`;sounds legit
855334;1412260725;pete_dushenski;lol for the well-heeled ladies i know, it actually is!
855335;1412260733;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrqA93sW-8
855336;1412260738;pete_dushenski;get a career, get specialized
855337;1412260749;pete_dushenski;brush off the opportunity for guys while in school
855338;1412260757;pete_dushenski;find out that the workplace is a narrow, narrow space
855339;1412260764;pete_dushenski;go online in search of romance
855340;1412260769;pete_dushenski;end up with derp after derp
855341;1412260776;pete_dushenski;it's nothing short of tragic
855342;1412260805;pete_dushenski;they're not getting younger either
855343;1412260822;Vexual;whats the problem?
855344;1412260862;pete_dushenski;these career women who thought they "had time to find a guy" are finding out it ain't true
855345;1412260881;pete_dushenski;nao having to contend with broken heads
855346;1412260888;Vexual;i thought you were a guy?
855347;1412260917;pete_dushenski;and having to sift through the piles of manboys who're emasculated by women who earn more than them
855348;1412260924;pete_dushenski;and get all insecure and bitchy
855349;1412260942;pete_dushenski;Vexual: o i'm laughin
855350;1412260982;Vexual;youre complaing about some imaginary womans problem
855351;1412260998;nubbins`;pete_dushenski it's pretty much all man-boys by this point
855352;1412261002;pete_dushenski;it's these poor young women who outnumber anything resembling a man 5-1
855353;1412261013;pete_dushenski;nubbins`: quite.
855354;1412261020;Vexual;show me one
855355;1412261031;nubbins`;acting sooky because new sexy mom won't do their laundry
855356;1412261034;Vexual;seriously
855357;1412261050;Vexual;its getting late
855358;1412261058;pete_dushenski;nubbins`: and manboys don't cut the mustard for weak women, much less strong ones
855359;1412261108;Vexual;did you just menopause today pete?
855360;1412261130;mircea_popescu; these career women who thought they "had time to find a guy" are finding out it ain't true << quite. if you're 16 already and your nudies aren't trending on any social media site you're smack drab in the process of missing the mating boat.
855361;1412261140;mircea_popescu;and on that note, ima bbl
855362;1412261305;Vexual;define the problem
855363;1412261461;pete_dushenski;Vexual: problem: women don't age as well as men.
855364;1412261479;nubbins`;i don't like the name Lynette
855365;1412261484;pete_dushenski;that is, men have a longer window of opportunity to find a mate.
855366;1412261485;nubbins`;Lynn is already a female name
855367;1412261491;nubbins`;you don't need to ette it
855368;1412261491;pete_dushenski;it ain't fair, but it's true
855369;1412261516;pete_dushenski;nubbins`: like janette
855370;1412261535;nubbins`;or, for the francophones among us, ginette
855371;1412261574;Vexual;don't worry about what anyone else wants pete
855372;1412261601;pete_dushenski;http://online.wsj.com/articles/rocket-internet-shares-fall-below-issue-price-at-debut-1412237549
855373;1412261602;assbot;Rocket Internet Shares Fall Below Issue Price at Debut - WSJ
855374;1412261617;pete_dushenski;Vexual: no?
855375;1412261632;Vexual;what the ruck is rocket?
855376;1412261636;nubbins`;not sure
855377;1412261648;nubbins`;but at this point it'd be unusual to see a stock not fall on IPO-day
855378;1412261651;pete_dushenski;"Rocket Internet AG a German investor and developer of online businesses, disappointed in its debut on the Frankfurt stock exchange Thursday, falling more than 10% in early trading."
855379;1412261657;nubbins`;y u no properly valuate?
855380;1412261689;Vexual;fees too high
855381;1412261747;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/yishan/status/517365027515285504 << lulz. reddit moving to sf
855382;1412261749;assbot;Story I heard about Reddit post-$50M investment includes everyone not in San Francisco getting 1 week to decide whether to move or GTFO. o.0
855383;1412261767;Vexual;whats wong?
855384;1412261774;mats_cd03;10:03:12 <+nubbins`> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/white-woman-sues-sperm-bank-after-insemination-from-black-donor-1.2785073 <> hong kong dollar
855433;1412262891;rithm;for posterity
855434;1412262905;pete_dushenski;"Intercloud, a proposed network of cloud computing systems with high performance, security and control. In addition to improving security, the Intercloud is meant to help companies comply with the regulations of countries regarding the information that moves within their borders."
855435;1412262919;pete_dushenski;good luck with that, cisco
855436;1412262959;pete_dushenski;maybe cisco will succeed, and widen the gap between rich a poor even further
855437;1412262972;pete_dushenski;heh could be worse.
855438;1412263032;pete_dushenski;internet censorship really only affects the basement dwellers.
855439;1412263036;pete_dushenski;http://contravex.com/2014/09/28/the-internet-is-everything-how-internet-censorship-only-affects-the-poor/
855440;1412263037;assbot;The Internet Is Everything: How Internet Censorship Only Affects The Poor | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
855441;1412263069;pete_dushenski;^obligatory
855442;1412263088;thickasthieves;http://www.shapeshift.io/
855443;1412263088;assbot;Shape Shift | The fastest way to swap cryptocurrencies. No account required.
855444;1412263096;pete_dushenski;nyt is such a fuckin shill
855445;1412263130;mats_cd03;http://www.chinability.com/Rmb.htm
855446;1412263131;assbot;China currency (CNY, RMB, Renminbi) exchange rates
855447;1412263146;pete_dushenski;thickasthieves: it should say "most trusted" on there somewhere
855448;1412263172;pete_dushenski;though chuck lee's vote of confidence is sorta equivalent to that, for redditards
855449;1412263174;mats_cd03;whoops wrong link
855450;1412263264;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDaVCVJEDo
855451;1412263279;Vexual;you got my money?
855452;1412263306;mats_cd03;http://intl.econ.cuhk.edu.hk/exchange_rate_regime/index.php?cid=5
855453;1412263308;assbot;International Economics - Historial Exchange Rate Regime of Asian Countries
855454;1412263460;mats_cd03;seems i'm wrong, i need someone that knows more finance than me to chime in
855455;1412263464;pete_dushenski;http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2009/Leelifeexpectancy.html
855456;1412263465;assbot;Dwight R. Lee, Should Government Reduce Inequality in Life Spans? | Library of Economics and Liberty
855457;1412264465;thickasthieves;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-28/draghi-devaluing-euro-cheers-ecb-as-inflation-seen-fading.html
855458;1412264467;assbot;Draghi Devaluing Euro Cheers ECB as Inflation Seen Fading - Bloomberg
855459;1412264536;thickasthieves;low inflation, tis such a problem!
855460;1412264990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00074211 = 11.4656 BTC [-] {2}
855461;1412265905;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00074323 = 5.054 BTC [+]
855462;1412268955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00074302 = 3.7894 BTC [-]
855463;1412269626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00074306 = 11.0716 BTC [+] {2}
855464;1412270991;TomServo;;;bc,stats
855465;1412270994;gribble;Current Blocks: 323528 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1047 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34108614442.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.59489
855466;1412271083;TomServo;bitcoinwisdom.com is calculating +2.78%... should be interesting!
855467;1412271536;nubbins`;Q: What's the strangest message you've received from someone tripping on your product?
855468;1412271538;nubbins`;A: A guy orders 25 hits. I send him a 5x5 sheet. His feedback reads "The hit was very large but I managed to fit it in my mouth. The lines were neat. Good trip". I wonder if the guy thought the 25 hits were one!?
855469;1412271822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11488 @ 0.00074323 = 8.5382 BTC [+]
855470;1412272188;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00074206 = 9.4984 BTC [-] {2}
855471;1412272615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00074206 = 11.7245 BTC [-]
855472;1412272740;kakobrekla;nowai
855473;1412272743;kakobrekla;!up ristopietila
855474;1412272767;kakobrekla;is this a mirage
855475;1412272773;artifexd;Why is assbot not reporting havelock trades anymore?
855476;1412272794;thickasthieves;they are too smal
855477;1412272801;kakobrekla;no, cause of their weird setup
855478;1412272803;thickasthieves;need to be 1btc vol within 2min i think
855479;1412272805;thickasthieves;oh
855480;1412272808;kakobrekla;and topace is no longer here
855481;1412272812;kakobrekla;so wtf
855482;1412272818;thickasthieves;fuckem
855483;1412272840;thickasthieves;i can connect you with the panama dude if you care
855484;1412272851;kakobrekla;the ip was changed but the subdomain is same and this apparently bothers their setup
855485;1412272862;kakobrekla;is he on irc?
855486;1412272885;thickasthieves;no, he likes phone, but is easily reachable by email, and skyoe i think
855487;1412272888;kakobrekla;!up ristopietila
855488;1412272927;ristopietila;kakobrekla: Hi This is not ristopietila , this is davidlatapie setting up an IRC account for Risto :)
855489;1412272952;kakobrekla;are you going to give him gpg private key too?
855490;1412272959;kakobrekla;and hello!
855491;1412272974;ristopietila;Anyway, hi everyone, especially mircea_popescu . I'm sorry I was not able to talk here for some time. That should change in the following weeks
855492;1412272997;kakobrekla;well this could be fun
855493;1412273016;ristopietila;kakobrekla: no gpg key for the moment. Later on. The immediate goal will be for him to access invite-only #monero-mew
855494;1412273037;ristopietila;and hello too, kakobrekla
855495;1412273389;TheNewDeal;whats monero-meow?
855496;1412273400;kakobrekla;cryptocurrency for cats
855497;1412273463;kakobrekla;like doge is for dogs.
855498;1412273483;fluffypony;such lulz, kako, such lulz :-P
855499;1412273773;fluffypony;https://i.imgur.com/XMJVk.jpg
855500;1412273817;bounce;slegs vir hipsters
855501;1412273866;fluffypony;net so
855502;1412274192;xanthyos;heh
855503;1412274412;assbot;GunPlay +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
855504;1412274423;kakobrekla;!up GunPlay
855505;1412274430;GunPlay;thx :-)
855506;1412274445;kakobrekla;i might want it back!
855507;1412274475;GunPlay;lol
855508;1412274555;fluffypony;I don't get it - want what back?
855509;1412274555;fluffypony;(it should be noted that I'm two gin martinis down at this stage, so there's that)
855510;1412274569;kakobrekla;ze voice
855511;1412274574;fluffypony;aah
855512;1412274582;thickasthieves;lol, Circle's login suggests what email you might be trying to enter
855513;1412274600;thickasthieves;did you mean xxx@xxx.ca?
855514;1412274651;nubbins`;did you mean P4ssw0rd?
855515;1412274689;thickasthieves;this interface is so bad
855516;1412274700;thickasthieves;the button to buy bitcoin says "deposit"
855517;1412274710;thickasthieves;and you can only type in USD
855518;1412274713;thickasthieves;not BTC
855519;1412274786;bounce;weren't you declaring how easy that thing was earlier on? or was that a different kind of easy?
855520;1412274878;thickasthieves;i was only declaring i like that they are munching on Coinbase's lunch
855521;1412274896;thickasthieves;today is first use
855522;1412274901;thickasthieves;only to test
855523;1412274931;thickasthieves;they claim no fees, so i'm going to try and do a max vol buy and sell
855524;1412274946;thickasthieves;see if i can get it to behave no-fee
855525;1412274971;thickasthieves;i'm betting it wont, and that if it does, there will be other abnormal bank/cc fees
855526;1412275138;mike_c;no fees, just don't ask about the exchange rate.
855527;1412275209;thickasthieves;well they seem to sell coins at an obvious premium
855528;1412275213;thickasthieves;but also buy at that price
855529;1412275225;thickasthieves;it's just an abstracted fee
855530;1412275258;thickasthieves;it is possible they are skimming very little though, to attract volume
855531;1412275580;punkman;http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/
855532;1412275580;assbot;The Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs Is Now on the Loose | WIRED
855533;1412275604;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00074203 = 9.6835 BTC [-] {2}
855534;1412276030;xanthyos;i just got video of a bathroom spider trapping a moth
855535;1412276035;xanthyos;i didn't want to interfere with nature
855536;1412276038;xanthyos;youtubing now
855537;1412276071;xanthyos;wrong chan
855538;1412276172;fluffypony;hah hah
855539;1412276588;TomServo;;;ud bathroom spider
855540;1412276589;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bathroom%20Spider | (n.) The fictional spider used to lure curious roommates, girlfriends, siblings, etc into an utterly destroyed bathroom. Once inside the bathroom, the door is closed ...
855541;1412276596;TomServo;hmm.
855542;1412276640;teward;punkman: i'm surprised github lets that code exist... if it IS, after all, malicious...
855543;1412277242;dignork;teward: it's just a POC that shows some/most USB sticks firmware can be overwritten, doh
855544;1412277266;teward;dignork: case in point still - it can be considered malicious
855545;1412277275;Dimsler;lol
855546;1412277280;rithm;i've been working on it today dignork
855547;1412277285;Dimsler;if you're silly enough to trust u3 security
855548;1412277290;rithm;trying to setup a windows boxen
855549;1412277303;rithm;but once i got to usbdev.ru i started to hesitate
855550;1412277310;bounce;can you get the firmware out of the stick with that? might be vaguely interesting to disassemble and inspect
855551;1412277324;rithm;the github page has "links"
855552;1412277328;rithm;to all the things you need
855553;1412277335;rithm;but it's russiun forum
855554;1412277725;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/mining-pool-upgrades/
855555;1412278415;kakobrekla;!up topace
855556;1412278478;kakobrekla;;;seen topace
855557;1412278478;gribble;topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 25 weeks, 4 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: punkman: no, you are not right. its widely known what my name is
855558;1412278485;kakobrekla;25weeks it was.
855559;1412278505;topace;wow
855560;1412278506;topace;apparently
855561;1412278520;topace;guess punkman pisssed me off :p
855562;1412278522;topace;haha
855563;1412278527;kakobrekla;lol
855564;1412278556;dub;the real question: is rithm a dancer?
855565;1412278571;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ppF2yK4NM
855566;1412278571;assbot;Snap! ~ Rhythm Is A Dancer - YouTube
855567;1412278605;*;kakobrekla turns it up to 11
855568;1412278691;danielpbarron;http://pavlok.com/ << this thing is supposed to let facebook friends remotely give you an electric shock
855569;1412278692;assbot;V2 PAVLOK
855570;1412279239;bounce;yes, let's turn that thing up to 11
855571;1412279313;Dimsler;12
855572;1412279408;rithm;dub i'm like the dub of -otc
855573;1412279445;*;rithm idolizes dub
855574;1412280423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.12729237 = 8.274 BTC {9}
855575;1412280453;dignork;bounce: on the .ru site bunch of firmware_*.rar files, bin files apparently 8051(?), and not crypted, so IDA should be able to read them. *_datasheet*.pdf from the same site might help
855576;1412280667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11423 @ 0.00045903 = 5.2435 BTC [-] {12}
855577;1412280722;asciilifeform;re: usb diddling: i had the entire thing working two years ago, with same 'phison', likewise cribbed russian docs. didn't think it was interesting to anyone other than me.
855578;1412280731;asciilifeform;so never published.
855579;1412280866;asciilifeform;now some huckster gets to pretend he had 'glorious original thought.'
855580;1412280910;assbot;topace +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
855581;1412280922;asciilifeform;dignork: yes, 8051 variant. yes, ida eats it just fine. but most of the registers are not documented, so much puzzle work.
855582;1412280926;TomServo;!up topace
855583;1412280938;asciilifeform;!up topace
855584;1412280952;topace;heh
855585;1412280988;kakobrekla;;;gettrust assbot topace
855586;1412280989;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask topace!~topace@unaffiliated/topace. Trust relationship from user assbot to user topace: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=topace | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=topace | Rated since: Wed Jun 8 18:37:29 2011
855587;1412281000;dignork;asciilifeform: why phison specifically, most used, good datasheet leaks from china?
855588;1412281199;asciilifeform;dignork: no data sheet (at the time) - but leaked fw update util. that chinese scammers used to sell fake (undersized) usb drives at russian flea markets. lifted fw protocol off the wire from these.
855589;1412281346;dignork;asciilifeform | now some huckster gets to pretend he had 'glorious original thought.' << result: massive novelty! https://www.crowdsupply.com/xipiter/usbcondom
855590;1412281347;assbot;USBCondom | Crowd Supply
855591;1412281751;kakobrekla;there exists usb cables with power lines only.
855592;1412281755;kakobrekla;since ever.
855593;1412281769;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
855594;1412281770;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 376.28, Best ask: 377.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.22000, Last trade: 377.5, 24 hour volume: 9023.87851463, 24 hour low: 373.0, 24 hour high: 386.47, 24 hour vwap: 379.224382035
855595;1412281780;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: i own several. who doesn't?
855596;1412281795;kakobrekla;people buying usb condoms?
855597;1412281904;asciilifeform;chumps will buy anything?
855598;1412281953;kakobrekla;cept the antichumpaol.
855599;1412282148;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/10-2014/p05/p/15.jpg
855600;1412282244;kakobrekla;someone, somewhere
855601;1412282248;kakobrekla;is fed up of her shit.
855602;1412282257;mircea_popescu;>D
855603;1412282330;mircea_popescu;.balance
855604;1412282336;mircea_popescu;!up deedBot
855605;1412282338;mircea_popescu;.balance
855606;1412282339;deedBot;deedBot BTC available balance: 0.01709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu
855607;1412282343;mircea_popescu;there we go.
855608;1412282352;kakobrekla;is it registered yet
855609;1412282399;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/trilema/ i just squatted it if anyone cares
855610;1412282399;assbot;A complete theory of sociology
855611;1412282439;mircea_popescu;lol you should run it as a hate site.
855612;1412282450;fluffypony;https://blog.cloudflare.com/route-leak-incident-on-october-2-2014/
855613;1412282451;assbot;Route leak incident on October 2, 2014
855614;1412282462;fluffypony;"This downtime was the result of a BGP route leak by Internexa, an ISP in Latin America. Internexa accidentally directed large amounts of traffic destined for CloudFlare data centers around the world to a single data center in Medellín, Colombia. This was the result of Internexa announcing via BGP that their network, instead of ours, handled traffic for CloudFlare. This miscommunication caused a flood of traffic to quickly overwhelm
855615;1412282462;fluffypony;the data center in Medellín."
855616;1412282492;fluffypony;it's actually pretty hilarious that that can happen
855617;1412282516;mircea_popescu;fluffypony they're notorious for lying, so... what actually happened may be pieced together if/when internexa blogs about it
855618;1412282542;thickasthieves;ooo can i be a reddit/trilema troll?
855619;1412282560;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves you can troll now ?!
855620;1412282570;thickasthieves;i can do anything, i'm american
855621;1412282576;fluffypony;thickasthieves is too serious to be a troll
855622;1412282586;mircea_popescu;he's too responsible and too nice.
855623;1412282600;mircea_popescu;application DeNiEd
855624;1412282619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00074388 = 11.4929 BTC [+] {3}
855625;1412282642;thickasthieves;yer probly right, i'd be like that guy that takes it too far
855626;1412282648;dub;are they claiming it was a dos?
855627;1412282703;mircea_popescu;dub no, they got blown of the net and are claiming it's not because they suck. like you know, tesla explaining that the battery fire was due to a customer setting their car atop a camping gas stove
855628;1412282711;mircea_popescu;sure, it's possible, in principle.
855629;1412282797;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: Lynn is already a female name << cock is already a female thing and yet cocotte is perfectly fine.
855630;1412282898;dub;wording sounds like someone attacked a 3rd party by sending them all cloudflares traffic
855631;1412282938;mircea_popescu;dub that theory doesn't explain why CF was down.
855632;1412282964;mircea_popescu;i mean unless someone = god or w/e
855633;1412282971;dub;well. all their traffic was going somewhere else
855634;1412282980;mircea_popescu;what, and this reroute instapropagated all over ?
855635;1412282992;mircea_popescu;in spite of cf's own controlling servers telling a diff story ?
855636;1412282998;mircea_popescu;how in the heavens does this work ?
855637;1412283000;dub;boring old bgp jacking yeah, using it as an attack would be new to me
855638;1412283014;mircea_popescu;it ain't washing as presented.
855639;1412283038;fluffypony;the funny thing is that there's a person in this room called BGP
855640;1412283048;mircea_popescu;not saying it's outright impossible or anything, but the story they got is unconvincing at best.
855641;1412283050;fluffypony;so my IRC client keeps highlighting the word
855642;1412283054;fluffypony;that and so
855643;1412283057;mircea_popescu;!up bgp
855644;1412283058;fluffypony;so bgp so bgp so bgp
855645;1412283064;mircea_popescu;who are ye, god of routes.
855646;1412283074;fluffypony;bgp: why did you break CloudFlare?
855647;1412283087;*;rithm slaps bgp
855648;1412283089;mircea_popescu;are you with the fnac, putting more rote in the routes ?
855649;1412283092;fluffypony;idle 1 week, 6 days...
855650;1412283105;mircea_popescu;fluffypony that's what it wants you to think
855651;1412283105;rithm;a likely alibi...
855652;1412283109;kakobrekla;beating an idle horse...
855653;1412283111;mircea_popescu;ha
855654;1412283130;rithm;i say burn the witch, if she drowns she wasn't a witch
855655;1412283172;fluffypony;good point rithm
855656;1412283176;fluffypony;throw the jew down the well!
855657;1412283189;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, http://www.secureworks.com/cyber-threat-intelligence/threats/bgp-hijacking-for-cryptocurrency-profit/
855658;1412283190;assbot;BGP Hijacking for Cryptocurrency Profit | Dell SecureWorks
855659;1412283196;rithm;if it flies, you made a good decision
855660;1412283207;cazalla;mircea_popescu: cazalla if you put up random stock footage of dressed uruguayan chicks ima kill you << i thought you said copy coindesk?
855661;1412283207;asciilifeform;cloudflare 'leak' << 'he ran into my knife, by accident, ten times!'
855662;1412283234;mircea_popescu;cazalla just fyi in uruguay your name would read cazasha
855663;1412283258;cazalla;sounds feminine
855664;1412283327;thickasthieves;!up strp
855665;1412283347;strp;I don't know why I got voice in here. I'd written, hey. you got recommended as level headed and responsible. do you want an ambitoius, impuslive, capricious, mercurial, expansive partner?
855666;1412283351;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00074203 = 4.1554 BTC [-] {2}
855667;1412283354;strp;(to thickasthieves)
855668;1412283374;thickasthieves;so whatcha want?
855669;1412283412;strp;Just as above. A level-headed responsible business partner to my ambitious, head-strong business ideas that are crazy ambitious, impulsive, capricious, and mercurial.
855670;1412283423;strp;as I'd written, "I just read somewhere that business partners should have known each other for years. My opinion, is, naaaah."
855671;1412283423;thickasthieves;those words dont form any actual substance
855672;1412283437;strp;well, this is a logged channel :)
855673;1412283438;mircea_popescu;does mercurial mean nice tits ?
855674;1412283451;thickasthieves;what do you have to hide?
855675;1412283453;strp;mircea_popescu, I'm a man.
855676;1412283469;asciilifeform;mr. spam is back!
855677;1412283485;mircea_popescu;oh i thought that's short for strep
855678;1412283486;strp;thickasthieves, I think asciilifeform's reaction speaks volumes.
855679;1412283494;asciilifeform;stirrup finder! aka ninjasp4mz0r
855680;1412283505;thickasthieves;asii is much more respected in my book than you
855681;1412283510;thickasthieves;ascii*
855682;1412283516;mircea_popescu;by the way, did you know girls can get strep cunt if you give them head while you have strep throat ?
855683;1412283531;thickasthieves;strp just say what you want or leave me alone
855684;1412283531;mircea_popescu;apparently it's awful.
855685;1412283534;*;dub didn't
855686;1412283540;strp;thickasthieves, I understand this but I came in here at your request. This can hardly be called spamming. If you don't like my suggestion, just say so. :)
855687;1412283567;thickasthieves;this is what i get for saying i can troll, isnt it
855688;1412283596;strp;thickasthieves, I told you what I'm looking for. You got a recommendation as a level-headed, responsible person, and if you would like to partner with an ambitious, mercurial, head-strong, impulsive, capricious one who has wildly expansive plans, then tell me. If not, it's okay.
855689;1412283603;deedBot;Bundled:
855690;1412283616;thickasthieves;Yes, strp you are just the man I'm looking for, where do we begin?
855691;1412283629;strp;Well, I'd assume skype, and we can see if there's a match?
855692;1412283632;dub;first you gotta take off joor shoes
855693;1412283639;thickasthieves;can we talk here?
855694;1412283674;asciilifeform;obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt
855695;1412283683;strp;I don't know anything about you, and I'd assume you wouldn't want to discuss it in a logged forum. It is difficult to have an uknnown as a business partner without sharing anything, don't you think?
855696;1412283690;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03: IS ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET REAL << wasn't there a snopes debunk about this urban legend where someone supposedly asked once if things on the internet are real ?
855697;1412283693;thickasthieves;you assume incorrectly
855698;1412283699;thickasthieves;i love doing business here
855699;1412283722;strp;well, when I asked about super-basic and general background information, I got an extremely negative response.
855700;1412283726;dub;get paul graham in here
855701;1412283739;strp;why?
855702;1412283747;thickasthieves;i'm a sensitive man
855703;1412283752;dub;he's your bff remember
855704;1412283762;thickasthieves;it's part of my level-headed responsible charm
855705;1412283780;diametric;strp: welcome back
855706;1412283780;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/cisco-the-internet-needs-more-control/ <<< this from the company that lost 90% of its sales because it turned out they worked as usg spies.
855707;1412283790;mircea_popescu;how about cisco needs more bankruptcy
855708;1412283803;jurov;who is strp?
855709;1412283805;strp;dub, well I did just write him an emial let me check... literally a 1 hour and 16 minutes ago.
855710;1412283819;thickasthieves;i have mail?!
855711;1412283824;strp;no, not you.
855712;1412283825;dub;jurov: ninjashogun
855713;1412283828;strp;he's trolling me on my YC relationships.
855714;1412283847;strp;dub, if you weren't trolling --- you would have a lot more luck getting Sam Altman (the current YC president) in here. He has taken a HUGE liking to crypto currencies.
855715;1412283849;thickasthieves;oh you are connected to ninjashogun?
855716;1412283879;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03: seems i'm wrong, i need someone that knows more finance than me to chime in << what is the q again ?
855717;1412283903;mircea_popescu;strp if we didn;'t think him an idiot that argument may hold more value.
855718;1412283931;strp;dub, see here for example: http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit He is going to give out free equity in Reddit. (10% of the funds it raises on its latest fundraising round)
855719;1412283931;assbot;reddit - Sam Altman
855720;1412283940;thickasthieves;;;gettrust strp
855721;1412283940;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user strp: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=strp | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=strp | Rated since: never
855722;1412283955;thickasthieves;you dont even exist!
855723;1412283963;strp;thickasthieves, anyway you said I was wrong that you owuldn't like to introduce yourself in a public, logged channel. So, go ahead.
855724;1412283973;mircea_popescu;strp free "equity" in reddit is worth abut the same as free equity in ethereum,
855725;1412283989;thickasthieves;strp i'm talking about you, i;m simply asking you to state your business
855726;1412283997;strp;thickasthieves, if (as anyone normal) you would prefer to do it privately you can also PM me an introduction. I don't know anything about you other than that you hang out in -assets and were recomended as responsible and level-headed.
855727;1412284014;thickasthieves;who are you though? i dont talk to strangers privately
855728;1412284017;mircea_popescu;davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ?
855729;1412284021;dub;someone set you up tat
855730;1412284029;mircea_popescu;the bomb ?
855731;1412284035;diametric;strp: nice weather we're having in fort meade today
855732;1412284036;strp;mircea_popescu, well, I was connected with a guy who I think made heavy coin on ethereum. I didn't verify.
855733;1412284061;kakobrekla;anyone made any coin on etherum!?
855734;1412284063;mircea_popescu;you and your retarded boy groups. im sure you're connected to someone who you think has had sex.
855735;1412284066;mircea_popescu;WITH A GIRL!
855736;1412284094;strp;if you guys don't prefer to scam today I can share the email I got from the ethereum investor, in wihch he talked aobut some of his returns. (removing his name.)
855737;1412284106;mircea_popescu;#monero-mew ? srsly ?
855738;1412284106;strp;I meant to say "troll" not scam, sorry.
855739;1412284107;mircea_popescu;these ppls.
855740;1412284114;dub;wat
855741;1412284121;thickasthieves;strp, here's the deal, you have until your voice in this channel runs out to make your case for talking to me after that dont speak to me again
855742;1412284136;mircea_popescu;strp yeah, we're totally going to care about some ethereum pr copy. it's like, in short supply.
855743;1412284148;strp;no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with.
855744;1412284155;mircea_popescu;!down strp
855745;1412284156;thickasthieves;!down strp
855746;1412284156;mircea_popescu;yeah, you do.
855747;1412284161;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how was the factory ?
855748;1412284166;mircea_popescu;too slow, thicksy.
855749;1412284176;thickasthieves;i even had it yped already
855750;1412284177;thickasthieves;:(
855751;1412284180;thickasthieves;typed
855752;1412284191;thickasthieves;no wonder i suck at dota
855753;1412284193;mircea_popescu;you can't outtype me. NOBODY CAN OUTTYPE ME.
855754;1412284198;mircea_popescu;I HAD SURGERY FOR IT!
855755;1412284277;danielpbarron;thickasthieves, you play dota? me too!
855756;1412284288;fluffypony;!up davidlatapie
855757;1412284292;fluffypony;davidlatapie: there, fixed
855758;1412284304;thickasthieves;https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2716/4196209078_a198a5fa83.jpg
855759;1412284309;davidlatapie;Thanks fluffypony
855760;1412284319;thickasthieves;mp's fingers
855761;1412284341;mircea_popescu;holy shit
855762;1412284344;thickasthieves;yes daniel, my name is currently Bitcoin in dota
855763;1412284348;mircea_popescu;you could fuck a cow with that
855764;1412284369;danielpbarron;there should be an official -assets dota team
855765;1412284370;davidlatapie;mircea_popescu: Well, this is what happens when one wants to join interesting conversation and can't accept to just let it go because he doesn't have time to answer. So yeah, watching pies flying
855766;1412284378;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves what the fuck is that anyway ? ringworms ?
855767;1412284382;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not proper 'plant', as in factory, but a place related to one of my day jobs.
855768;1412284390;thickasthieves;i just googled keyboard deformed fingers
855769;1412284403;davidlatapie;mircea_popescu: how should I understand "#monero-mew ? srsly ?"
855770;1412284407;mircea_popescu;davidlatapie i didn't manage to get that one. come again ?
855771;1412284420;davidlatapie;mircea_popescu> davidlatapie what, were you going to count the pies flying ?
855772;1412284438;davidlatapie;I assume you were resentful because I'm lurking even when voiced
855773;1412284439;mircea_popescu;yeah, as in, came in here as rpietilla to see if we bite head off and how many times.
855774;1412284445;thickasthieves;http://www.sorryican.com/2013/11/lui-hua-man-with-worlds-largest-hand.html
855775;1412284446;assbot;Lui Hua the man with world's largest hand - Facts | Sorry I Can
855776;1412284446;mircea_popescu;im not resentful dood.
855777;1412284464;mircea_popescu;and i didn;t voice you because i didn't realise you're not voiced.
855778;1412284468;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust davidlatapie
855779;1412284469;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never
855780;1412284473;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot davidlatapie
855781;1412284474;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user davidlatapie: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=davidlatapie | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davidlatapie | Rated since: never
855782;1412284485;mircea_popescu;;;rate davidlatapie 1 New blood
855783;1412284485;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
855784;1412284489;mircea_popescu;doh,
855785;1412284498;davidlatapie;ouch, yeah, I really have to fix this WoT things. Entirely my fault.
855786;1412284545;davidlatapie;mircea_popescu: the rpietila part was purely technical. I was setting up an IRC account for Risto, nothing else :)
855787;1412284561;rithm;burn the witch!
855788;1412284596;mircea_popescu;has the guy been in the hospital since his stay after that hotel mishap ?
855789;1412284642;ben_vulpes;davidtilapia
855790;1412284657;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: ol, Circle's login suggests what email you might be trying to enter< omfg ?! NOT by quering their userdb i hope beyond hope ?!
855791;1412284682;thickasthieves;it seemed fairly specific
855792;1412284698;thickasthieves;i didnt test
855793;1412284707;kakobrekla;nobody is that stupid
855794;1412284715;BingoBoingo;Lotta Pie?
855795;1412284717;chetty;riiiight
855796;1412284735;davidlatapie;ben_vulpes: lol
855797;1412284748;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you know how often that was said, in human history ?
855798;1412284755;mircea_popescu;and how many times it actually was correct ?
855799;1412284765;kakobrekla;!s 'nobody is that stupid'
855800;1412284765;assbot;1 results for ''nobody is that stupid'' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%27nobody+is+that+stupid%27
855801;1412284768;kakobrekla;not much
855802;1412284769;thickasthieves;it might just be a tlf suggester
855803;1412284773;thickasthieves;since i use a weird one
855804;1412284781;thickasthieves;tld
855805;1412284783;thickasthieves;*
855806;1412284880;thickasthieves;yeah it is
855807;1412284899;thickasthieves;i can type any addy with this tld and it suggests .ca instead with same addy
855808;1412284906;mircea_popescu;a ok.
855809;1412284907;mircea_popescu;"In one case, they showed that the infected USB can impersonate a keyboard to type any keystrokes the attacker chooses on the victims machine. Because it affects the firmware of the USBs microcontroller, that attack program would be stored in the rewritable code that controls the USBs basic functions, not in its flash memoryeven deleting the entire contents of its storage wouldnt catch the malware. Other
855810;1412284907;mircea_popescu;firmware tricks demonstrated by Caudill and Wilson would hide files in that invisible portion of the code, or silently disable a USBs security feature that password-protects a certain portion of its memory."
855811;1412284912;mircea_popescu;i don't get it, what's the big deal ?
855812;1412284977;mircea_popescu;or why is this surprising to anyone, or what exactly ?
855813;1412284997;asciilifeform;Oct 02 16:43:29 oh-ho-ho - look who turned out to be completely right. http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/ and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8400796 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855577
855814;1412284998;assbot;The Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs Is Now on the Loose | WIRED
855815;1412284999;assbot;Unpatchable Malware That Infects USBs | Hacker News
855816;1412285000;assbot;Logged on 02-10-2014 20:12:02; asciilifeform: re: usb diddling: i had the entire thing working two years ago, with same 'phison', likewise cribbed russian docs. didn't think it was interesting to anyone other than me.
855817;1412285010;dub;maybe s.nsa could release a patch
855818;1412285032;mircea_popescu;dub how are you going to patch the fact that the microcontroler is a... microcontroler ?
855819;1412285039;mircea_popescu;ps. the EXACT SAME could be said of... hard drives.
855820;1412285041;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: fw reflashable via usb is reflashable - news at 11.
855821;1412285042;mircea_popescu;and.. video cards.
855822;1412285045;mircea_popescu;and... MONITORS.
855823;1412285055;kakobrekla;taking shareholders interest into an account, best would be to sell usb condoms.
855824;1412285069;ben_vulpes;how did that bitbet hack attempt play out?
855825;1412285076;ben_vulpes;i'm declaring log bankruptcy
855826;1412285081;ben_vulpes;1800 lines
855827;1412285081;mircea_popescu;no but srsly, is this 2016 "tech" press material, omfg we discovered you could make malicious hard drive
855828;1412285084;ben_vulpes;by thursday
855829;1412285085;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i choked from lol when heard of this idiocy, having performed the precisely same experiment, with same chip, long ago, and thought it was entirely boring
855830;1412285093;mircea_popescu;and all your dumbass "encrypted partition" stuff is worthless therefore ?
855831;1412285128;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes not went anywhere.
855832;1412285133;mircea_popescu;guy's not been back
855833;1412285139;mircea_popescu;here's 3 more lines for your deficit
855834;1412285152;thickasthieves;how could i ever trust usb comdoms
855835;1412285162;thickasthieves;n
855836;1412285162;mircea_popescu;cum domes
855837;1412285192;kakobrekla;thickasthieves use 2 to be extra safe
855838;1412285197;thickasthieves;if you put usb in butt, can you get virus?
855839;1412285207;mircea_popescu;no but you can get stretch butt.
855840;1412285225;davidlatapie;mircea_popescu: how should I understand your "#monero-mew ? srsly ?" Funny name, stupid initiative, such idea much wow, else?
855841;1412285230;asciilifeform;the 'condom' people collected 10k+ usd to build... 4 to 2-wire usb jack. for 10k a man could build an airplane!
855842;1412285282;mircea_popescu;davidlatapie i have nfi idea what monero is because in spite of being invited fluffypony doesn't want to give the group a presentation. the comment is just as to the improbable nature of the name. why mew and what's someone not in on the jokes to make of it.
855843;1412285310;thickasthieves;monero is like a darkcoin
855844;1412285315;thickasthieves;right?
855845;1412285322;thickasthieves;anonicoin
855846;1412285323;mircea_popescu;teward: punkman: i'm surprised github lets that code exist... if it IS, after all, malicious... <<< since when is github policing the code ?!
855847;1412285347;Dimsler;http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/02/farrakhan-claims-ebola-invented-to-kill-off-blacks/
855848;1412285347;assbot;Farrakhan claims Ebola invented to kill off blacks | Fox News
855849;1412285354;kakobrekla;asciilifeform now imagine one ... with gold plated contacts.
855850;1412285359;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: hard drives << all extant drives have trivially flashable fw, and very spiffy cpu and ram kit - sometimes multiple 'cores' and 64M+ ! usually some variant of 'arm'.
855851;1412285360;kakobrekla;20k does not escape.
855852;1412285392;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I'll totally do a group presentation...one day...when I have time...promise...
855853;1412285397;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform which is my point. if you're going to play evil govt you're better off doing it with hdd.
855854;1412285403;mircea_popescu;better access to bus than a shitty usb
855855;1412285421;mircea_popescu;mostly because the usb "standard" looks like something gavin, taaki and that other guy put together.
855856;1412285469;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: fetish for usb is because contagion. 'everybody' carries the usb drives. or something like that.
855857;1412285478;thickasthieves;usb is easier to attack with
855858;1412285480;mircea_popescu;everybody carries hdds, too.
855859;1412285488;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves how did you figure that one out ?
855860;1412285493;thickasthieves;havent you ever seen breaking bad?
855861;1412285501;thickasthieves;l2security
855862;1412285505;Dimsler;slapstick comedy at best
855863;1412285505;mircea_popescu;in fact, i've seen computors w/o usbs. not seen any w/o hdds for > 20 years now./
855864;1412285511;fluffypony;you've seen the USB stuff that was released over the last 24 hours right?
855865;1412285525;mircea_popescu;fluffypony more like over the past 3-4 weeks but ok.
855866;1412285535;thickasthieves;mp is just saying there was no reason to think usb was secure
855867;1412285558;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves that's one half. the other half is, these megadiscoveries suck. o, rly, you can make it be fake kbd ?! wow nelly!
855868;1412285567;mircea_popescu;you know what, i can make a fake kbd out of tin foil.
855869;1412285580;Dimsler;can you wear it like a hat?
855870;1412285589;mircea_popescu;and sling it over my shoulder!
855871;1412285610;fluffypony;https://github.com/adamcaudill/Psychson
855872;1412285611;assbot;adamcaudill/Psychson GitHub
855873;1412285617;fluffypony;such USB.
855874;1412285620;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, bitbet hacked yet?
855875;1412285625;kakobrekla;hm, i have a 'fake' keyboard intentionally.
855876;1412285649;mircea_popescu;Dimsler not afawn
855877;1412285677;davidlatapie;OK so if fluffypony plans a group presentation, I should not encroach on his turf, mircea_popescu
855878;1412285684;mircea_popescu;anyway, the whole usb reads like so much media whoring to me, possibly with the malicious twist of trying to drown legitimate stuff like THE BASH HOLES!!! AFTER THE SSH HOLES!!!
855879;1412285689;mircea_popescu;into some sort of general idiotic frenzy.
855880;1412285705;mircea_popescu;"o look, this car can go in reverse! which is exactly what the manual says! YO COULD KILL PEOPLE!!!"
855881;1412285719;thickasthieves;probly just a ploy to get everyone to buy new usb sticks
855882;1412285728;thickasthieves;china needs more work
855883;1412285730;Dimsler;i don't think it matters
855884;1412285742;Dimsler;what are you going to do? hack someones cat picutres and selfies?
855885;1412285753;mircea_popescu;more like a ploy to get people to better learn helplessness.
855886;1412285761;asciilifeform;the real lulz - idiot lifts ancient material from ru forums, passes it off as fresh turd!
855887;1412285774;Dimsler;lol i know
855888;1412285792;thickasthieves;how come russia is so hax inclined
855889;1412285800;Dimsler;must get money through internet
855890;1412285802;Dimsler;obviously
855891;1412285814;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well the muricans are at this major cultural disadvantage where they cnat raed. and so... http://trilema.com/2014/anonymous-derpage/
855892;1412285841;thickasthieves;orlov is on about americans not readinf today too
855893;1412285846;thickasthieves;cuz he has a kids book to sell
855894;1412285855;mircea_popescu;well i got no book to sell.
855895;1412285871;mircea_popescu;which incidentally makes me realise, this is an excellent reason against a trilema book.
855896;1412285879;kakobrekla;;;isitup trilema.com
855897;1412285880;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 45(Y):55(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.14235445 BTC. Current weight: 37,637.
855898;1412285885;mircea_popescu;no ?!
855899;1412285894;fluffypony;;;isup trilema.com
855900;1412285895;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla stop toying with my heart.
855901;1412285905;fluffypony;gah, gribble, you suck
855902;1412285912;fluffypony;!8ball is trilema.com up?
855903;1412285914;mircea_popescu;;;isitdown fluffypony.girlfriend
855904;1412285919;thickasthieves;why make a book when you could just continue curating trilema
855905;1412285920;kakobrekla;not working here
855906;1412285923;fluffypony;;;8ball is trilema.com up?
855907;1412285927;fluffypony;srsly.
855908;1412285931;fluffypony;HAH HAH
855909;1412285935;mircea_popescu;now you made britni crea
855910;1412285935;fluffypony;I killed gribble
855911;1412285938;mircea_popescu;crae*
855912;1412285941;fluffypony;nanotube: sorry
855913;1412285961;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla try a proxy ?
855914;1412285980;kakobrekla;works now
855915;1412285982;kakobrekla;dunno
855916;1412285983;kakobrekla;nsa
855917;1412285990;thickasthieves;isup for me
855918;1412286000;mircea_popescu;BGP HIJAX!
855919;1412286000;thickasthieves;try a different usb
855920;1412286049;thickasthieves;goat is polluting the tradingview chat now
855921;1412286064;kakobrekla;lol
855922;1412286081;mircea_popescu;anyway, this euro devaluation business is the absolute worst news conceivable for the us.
855923;1412286108;mircea_popescu;seems obama's fucktarded "sanctions" on russia have backfired monstrously. now the eu is sanctioning the us.
855924;1412286156;chetty;maybe its what he intended tho, might not be a backfire at all
855925;1412286178;mircea_popescu;the trade balance's going to look awful.
855926;1412286479;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: is fed up of her shit. <<< i originally thought you said "slit"
855927;1412286579;thickasthieves;;;estimate
855928;1412286590;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 33998165786.8 based on data since last change | 35283698863.9 based on data for last three days
855929;1412286681;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats
855930;1412286686;gribble;Current Blocks: 323551 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1024 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33998165786.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.91354
855931;1412286698;mircea_popescu;still under huh.
855932;1412286706;thickasthieves;could be
855933;1412286753;thickasthieves;could be a good price indicator
855934;1412286830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.000742 = 9.9428 BTC [-] {2}
855935;1412286995;mircea_popescu;never was before, but i guess at some point it's gotta start.
855936;1412287042;thickasthieves;been a long time since we went down in diff, no?
855937;1412287065;mircea_popescu;actually, it's been over a year.
855938;1412287067;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu i guess that too
855939;1412287074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.00444555 = 0.8002 BTC [-] {3}
855940;1412287170;thickasthieves;why is this info so hard to find
855941;1412287252;kakobrekla;diff?
855942;1412287257;kakobrekla;its in the blockchain
855943;1412287303;thickasthieves;sure, but how do you quickly poll that info, diff changes
855944;1412287315;thickasthieves;and dates
855945;1412287333;kakobrekla;someone is keeping a google doc up
855946;1412287337;kakobrekla;somewhere
855947;1412287359;thickasthieves;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiFMBvXvL2dtdEZkR2J4eU5rS3B4ei1iUmJxSWNlQ0E
855948;1412287359;assbot;Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free.
855949;1412287422;thickasthieves;also http://www.coindesk.com/data/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-time/
855950;1412287423;assbot;Bitcoin Difficulty Chart - Chart of Mining Difficulty History
855951;1412287439;kakobrekla;coindesk saves the day xD
855952;1412287469;kakobrekla;thickasthieves sipa.be ?
855953;1412287498;kakobrekla;;;google bitcoin sipa
855954;1412287499;gribble;Bitcoin network graphs: ; sipa (Pieter Wuille) · GitHub: ; Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network:
855955;1412287524;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-september-2014-statement/ < chetty
855956;1412287525;assbot;MiniGame (S.MG), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
855957;1412287563;thickasthieves;Jan 24 2013 was the last time it went down
855958;1412287568;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves srsly, http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
855959;1412287568;assbot;Bitcoin network graphs
855960;1412287594;thickasthieves;it had been flat since Oct '12
855961;1412287660;mircea_popescu;also lulzy, and little know fact : bitcoin took a year to get out of 1 diff ?
855962;1412287676;kakobrekla;!up The20YearIRCloud
855963;1412287709;The20YearIRCloud;thx
855964;1412287722;The20YearIRCloud;mircea_popescu: are those #s in BTC or eur/usd?
855965;1412287730;mircea_popescu;"those" ?
855966;1412287763;The20YearIRCloud;the cash on hand and various figures for s.mg
855967;1412287806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1728 @ 0.00074398 = 1.2856 BTC [+] {2}
855968;1412287814;mircea_popescu;all bitcoin.
855969;1412287818;thickasthieves;pricewise it was at a major just after diff went flat, once diff starting going up again, the price went from $13 to $260
855970;1412287826;thickasthieves;major low*
855971;1412287837;The20YearIRCloud;dang, that's alot of reserve capital
855972;1412288142;mircea_popescu;supposedly making a mmorpg costs millions.
855973;1412288264;The20YearIRCloud;Depends on quality, my brother is in the industry and has looked long and hard at game development
855974;1412288274;mircea_popescu;http://www.filmvz.com/pizda/pizda-romaneasca-goala.htm <<< grep for "trilema", see me hack a pronsite.
855975;1412288277;assbot;Pizda Romaneasca Goala | Filmvz Portal
855976;1412288280;The20YearIRCloud;The real disconnect is : Do you have a quality team of programmers that know what they're doing or not
855977;1412288321;The20YearIRCloud;Prior to HASH and his contract work, Ben did data anaylis for a Icann company, and learned quite a bit about the seedy underbelly of video games
855978;1412288355;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074193 = 6.529 BTC [-]
855979;1412288418;The20YearIRCloud;the real problem is finding quality programmers that won't rob you blind. His former company was chock full of guys pulling $100k/yr , yet when it came to business sense there wasn't much to go around.
855980;1412288489;mircea_popescu;this is quite universal.
855981;1412288539;The20YearIRCloud;of course, but from what i've seen video game developers are even worse. So many pseudo-artists deciding that it's all better than a lotto ticket. They spent several million on a game that made something like a hundred dollars
855982;1412288575;The20YearIRCloud;All while ben, their senior data anylist told them it was a failure waiting to happen, and to spend more effort on advertising their games that were already cash positive
855983;1412288645;The20YearIRCloud;The company had a patent on some pretty amazing software dealing with getting html5 to convert old PC games to online play. Some were even phone compatible I guess. but instead they wanted to spend a bunch of VC on some pie in the sky, get rich quick game that flopped massively
855984;1412288645;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
855985;1412288705;mircea_popescu;what was it called ?
855986;1412288725;The20YearIRCloud;the company or the failure game?
855987;1412288767;mircea_popescu;the game
855988;1412288807;The20YearIRCloud;I can't remember, it was a guitar hero clone that was exclusively for facebook, and was controlled by your keyboard
855989;1412288831;mircea_popescu;well, the company then
855990;1412288925;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-september-2014-statement/
855991;1412290063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24919 @ 0.00074199 = 18.4896 BTC [+]
855992;1412290550;mod6;%d
855993;1412290551;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 303620.70 in 616 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.83
855994;1412290598;BingoBoingo;Oh, the US is going to use that plane they wanted to mothball this year against ISIS http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-maligned-a-10-warthogs-are-deploying-to-1640395280/+laceydonohue
855995;1412290599;assbot;The USAF's Much Maligned A-10 Warthogs Are Deploying To Fight ISIS
855996;1412290682;mircea_popescu;because you know, it's "not needed"
855997;1412290688;mircea_popescu;being the only us plane of actual use in the field.
855998;1412290976;BingoBoingo;Exactly. Fighterjets are important to counter all of those ISIS fighterjets.
855999;1412291021;mircea_popescu;"Please note that this channel is only for reports of alleged infringements or
856000;1412291021;mircea_popescu;violations of your legal rights, such as copyright or trademark. If you filed that
856001;1412291021;mircea_popescu;type of report, no further action is necessary. However, if you contacted us through
856002;1412291021;mircea_popescu;this channel about another matter, you might not receive a response."
856003;1412291024;mircea_popescu;dumbest notification ever.
856004;1412291161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11205 @ 0.00074425 = 8.3393 BTC [+] {2}
856005;1412291222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3308 @ 0.00074551 = 2.4661 BTC [+]
856006;1412291664;penguirker;New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-september-2014/
856007;1412291993;mircea_popescu;hanbot put in deedsbot too
856008;1412292020;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/ < kakobrekla pls to put a link ty ?
856009;1412292021;assbot;BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
856010;1412292050;RagnarDanneskjol;deedbot is undergoing some cleanup
856011;1412292077;mircea_popescu;!up deedBot
856012;1412292081;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iySceLAy
856013;1412292082;deedBot;deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
856014;1412292082;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iySceLAy
856015;1412292121;kakobrekla;!s from:kakobrekla .deed
856016;1412292122;assbot;5 results for 'from:kakobrekla .deed' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Akakobrekla+.deed
856017;1412292163;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PcDCqn9x
856018;1412292164;deedBot;deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
856019;1412292164;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PcDCqn9x
856020;1412292183;kakobrekla;link to pastebin ?
856021;1412292210;kakobrekla;wtf this is too much overhead
856022;1412292214;RagnarDanneskjol;http://deedbot.com is where those will post in the near future
856023;1412292215;assbot;deedBot
856024;1412292227;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aZp4KxUw
856025;1412292228;deedBot;deed 8A736F0E2FB7B452 mircea_popescu with 1 signature valid in next bundle
856026;1412292228;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aZp4KxUw
856027;1412292230;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla nah to the bundle as signed.
856028;1412292273;kakobrekla;there is nothing there
856029;1412292297;kakobrekla;a wait
856030;1412292395;mircea_popescu;!up ek_
856031;1412292402;kakobrekla;http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/#comment-108424
856032;1412292403;assbot;BitBet (S.BBET) September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
856033;1412292407;kakobrekla;(Your comment is awaiting moderation)
856034;1412292431;mircea_popescu;yay splendid!
856035;1412292434;mircea_popescu;i mean splendeed
856036;1412292464;kakobrekla;2 suggestions: make deeds searchable and add a simple syntax, at least so that we specify 'title' and 'content' in the signed content
856037;1412292481;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol this new "from x recent days" system is atrocious.
856038;1412292488;mircea_popescu;simply break stuff up in 1k line pages say
856039;1412292493;RagnarDanneskjol;agreed
856040;1412292508;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 40(Y):60(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 2818.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,254.
856041;1412292526;RagnarDanneskjol;like I mentioned, I believe development and hosting for the bot needs to change hands real soon
856042;1412292577;mircea_popescu;myeah
856043;1412292886;hanbot;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MU2TEWPG
856044;1412292887;deedBot;deed 454B0FC0BC07B87E hanbot with 1 signature valid in next bundle
856045;1412292887;deedBot;Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MU2TEWPG
856046;1412292960;RagnarDanneskjol;I wouldnt do any deeds at this point. I believe he is resetting a lot of things
856047;1412292984;RagnarDanneskjol;but cannot get a straight answer
856048;1412293013;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/
856049;1412293013;assbot;DEEDS
856050;1412293389;mircea_popescu;he'd better not be resetting any lot of things.
856051;1412293484;RagnarDanneskjol;as with previous updates, he had to backup the deed list and reinstall I believe. please discuss with him - I dont want to misrepreset
856052;1412293500;mircea_popescu;i'm right here.
856053;1412293511;RagnarDanneskjol;i kno
856054;1412293676;mircea_popescu;https://blockchain.info/address/1FG2dA9D6Fmop6v9uKvGwW22UykRdt5T55 << these spamderps, check it out, five minutes.
856055;1412293676;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1FG2dA9D6Fmop6v9uKvGwW22UykRdt5T55
856056;1412293745;mircea_popescu;so basically this fuckwit put in a buncha unconfirmable satoshi spoam just to get his dumbass website included (text only, no link) on blockchain website
856057;1412293761;mircea_popescu;they gotta go to a special school to be this untimely stupid, it just can't occur naturally.
856058;1412293771;RagnarDanneskjol;haha
856059;1412293787;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ^ there, that's your idiot working "to make money while he sleeps". that's the prototype.
856060;1412293797;mircea_popescu;couldn't be in here, doing honest, useful work and building himself in the process.
856061;1412293817;mircea_popescu;o, no, he's got to be an independent fucktard, doing nothing for 20 years and then wondering why the state isn't taking care of his asthma.
856062;1412294036;mircea_popescu;and you know what ? here : http://bitmsqr.com
856063;1412294048;mircea_popescu;and im gonna fucking click it, too, just so he imagines this retardation works.
856064;1412294053;mircea_popescu;some people are their own best punishment.
856065;1412294063;asciilifeform;defunct.
856066;1412294073;mircea_popescu;no wai
856067;1412294090;mircea_popescu;dude....
856068;1412294102;mircea_popescu;where's my fucking neocortex.
856069;1412294244;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You got scammed, the shop just left the oldcortex in. There never was a new one.
856070;1412294262;mircea_popescu;no i meant it as an expression of general oy vey.
856071;1412295726;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/a/9C8pq nsfw
856072;1412295726;assbot;What a glorious time to be alive - Imgur
856073;1412295924;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Who is that?
856074;1412295932;nubbins`;some guy
856075;1412295948;nubbins`;looks 3d printed, custom job i'm assuming
856076;1412296285;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11340 @ 0.00074551 = 8.4541 BTC [+]
856077;1412296371;BingoBoingo;lol
856078;1412296375;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl
856079;1412296417;jborkl;Good evening
856080;1412296468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1256 @ 0.00057945 = 0.7278 BTC [+]
856081;1412297178;BingoBoingo;Evening
856082;1412297505;assbot;[MPEX] [D.BTGO] 12 @ 0.0524997 = 0.63 BTC
856083;1412297545;mircea_popescu;damn this kbd is falling apart.
856084;1412297548;mircea_popescu;i've destroyed so many...
856085;1412297568;kakobrekla;get a model m?
856086;1412297586;mircea_popescu;i guess yeah
856087;1412297601;mircea_popescu;tbh i kinda like destroying kbds. strokes my immortality delusion.
856088;1412297635;kakobrekla;perhaps there are better things to destroy
856089;1412297647;mircea_popescu;i destroy those, too.
856090;1412298063;asciilifeform;'model m' can only really be destroyed with power tools.
856091;1412298072;asciilifeform;or perhaps axe.
856092;1412298098;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i sometimes rage.
856093;1412298108;asciilifeform;also great to rage with. steel bottom.
856094;1412298112;asciilifeform;can break other objects.
856095;1412298122;mircea_popescu;well yeah but a chino kbd is 10 bux.,
856096;1412298128;mircea_popescu;other objects... not so much
856097;1412298141;asciilifeform;'model m', secondhand, perhaps 20. (usually they need a day worth of cleaning through)
856098;1412298158;mircea_popescu;2*24th hand model m, 20 bux
856099;1412298174;mircea_popescu;explosive congestive polio, priceless.
856100;1412298212;mircea_popescu;and if i use it to cut a hole in my wall ima need a new wall.
856101;1412298241;kakobrekla;excuses
856102;1412298252;mircea_popescu;i admeet.
856103;1412298252;asciilifeform;good compromise - 'northgate' kbd.
856104;1412298254;asciilifeform;i've one in this room
856105;1412298259;asciilifeform;and has kosher f-keys.
856106;1412298266;mircea_popescu;my current device is SOL Tech
856107;1412298281;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/OmniKey_ULTRA.JPG
856108;1412298292;mircea_popescu;pretty much only english layout kbd i could find here.
856109;1412298294;kakobrekla;ever used topre ?
856110;1412298339;[]bot;Bet placed: 999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3817.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,234.
856111;1412298351;kakobrekla;lolwat
856112;1412298372;Duffer1;ok then
856113;1412298397;kakobrekla;also []bot is still broked, missing bets
856114;1412298463;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-magical-clave-de-identificacion/
856115;1412298467;asciilifeform;'In the world of gourmet keyboards, the Topre key switch is widely considered to be the Holy Grail. Some have even made love to their Topres '
856116;1412298473;asciilifeform;( http://www.bytecellar.com/2011/08/07/an-apparent-keyboard-geek-finally-learns-to-type )
856117;1412298474;assbot;An Apparent Keyboard Geek Finally Learns to Type | Byte Cellar
856118;1412298586;kakobrekla;have you used it ascii?
856119;1412298655;asciilifeform;negative.
856120;1412298680;mircea_popescu;whoa
856121;1412298690;kakobrekla;the tx?
856122;1412298695;kakobrekla;its cumin from mpex
856123;1412298701;mircea_popescu;lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ?
856124;1412298731;kakobrekla;at least bci sez so
856125;1412298731;kakobrekla;https://blockchain.info/tx/cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31
856126;1412298731;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31
856127;1412298734;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla look at that, it is.
856128;1412298845;mircea_popescu;split in 1/999 too
856129;1412299005;BingoBoingo; lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ? << Just imagine if people decided to fuck with BitBet by using referal links and cut that to 15 - 20
856130;1412299019;mircea_popescu;not possibru anymoar.
856131;1412299032;mircea_popescu;they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes
856132;1412299065;mircea_popescu;o look, cloudflare is failing to protect blockchain.info and claiming the problem resides with blockchain info.
856133;1412299068;mircea_popescu;such assholes. wow.
856134;1412299110;BingoBoingo; they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes << Right, the move to cut referalls from all of a bet's rake to part of it was solid
856135;1412299133;mircea_popescu;no, it's just, the bets that are already in are already in, referrals already paid and accounted for.
856136;1412299184;BingoBoingo;I know, but I mean in the future where every scam site tries to Raep BitBet referrals because it pays better than advertising
856137;1412299184;mircea_popescu;;;calc 3817.19563162 * [market-last]
856138;1412299185;gribble;Error: "market-last" is not a valid command.
856139;1412299190;mircea_popescu;hows that go
856140;1412299203;mircea_popescu;he let em
856141;1412299203;kakobrekla;;;calc 3817.19563162 * [ticker --last]
856142;1412299205;gribble;1426715.03927
856143;1412299243;kakobrekla;dun worry, it will be less million soon
856144;1412299262;mircea_popescu;o look, enough to pay for like... hookers
856145;1412299264;mircea_popescu;and blow.
856146;1412299274;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00074595 = 14.546 BTC [+] {2}
856147;1412299312;mircea_popescu;i like the guy's style tho. testing bitbet deposit address with one bitcoin!
856148;1412299314;mircea_popescu;like a baws!
856149;1412299488;decimation;asciilifeform: neat video
856150;1412299784;decimation;I use a unicomp on a mac, it lacks the 'f-key' panel on the left
856151;1412299799;decimation;those keys would be handy in emacs
856152;1412300143;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/02/thank-your-lucky-trolls/
856153;1412300361;mircea_popescu;http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/01/14/dogecoin-transactions-outpacing-those-in-bitcoin-heres-why-thats-not-surprising/
856154;1412300361;assbot;Dogecoin transactions are outpacing those in bitcoin; here's why that's not surprising - The Tell - MarketWatch
856155;1412300371;mircea_popescu;ahhh, nothing quite like a little bit of historical, failed shilling.
856156;1412300380;mircea_popescu;fuck you, marketwatch. how's that egg on your face ?
856157;1412300501;mircea_popescu;is it me or is pete_d on a roll ?
856158;1412300520;decimation;press organs are about as accountable as usg 'leaders'
856159;1412300559;mircea_popescu;in that the difference is nigligible
856160;1412300562;mircea_popescu;with i from nigglet.
856161;1412300672;decimation;here is an example of them holding each other accountable http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/02/obama-attacks-fox-news-in-northwestern-speech/
856162;1412300672;assbot;Obama Attacks Fox News In Northwestern Speech | The Daily Caller
856163;1412300687;decimation;"“But I have laid out my ideas to create more jobs and grow more wages,” Obama told students at Northwestern University following a high-dollar fundraiser for Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn. ”A true opposition party should have the courage to lay out theirs. There’s a reason fewer Republicans are preaching doom on deficits – because they’re now manageable.”"
856164;1412300709;mircea_popescu;hahaha
856165;1412300710;decimation;fox news' biggest mistake is covering this guy at all
856166;1412300728;mircea_popescu;no dude it's funny
856167;1412300730;BingoBoingo;He's on a role
856168;1412300743;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/bBJmK6O.gif << cat managing deficits.
856169;1412300770;thickasthieves;<+[]bot> Bet placed: 999 BTC for No //// !!!!
856170;1412300787;decimation;'lunatic leftie derps to young idiots', click here to learn more
856171;1412300810;mircea_popescu;in what sense is obama left anyway ?
856172;1412300831;decimation;well, I guess he's in favor of growing the bureaucracy
856173;1412300839;mircea_popescu;that's left ?
856174;1412300856;mircea_popescu;actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway.
856175;1412300871;mircea_popescu;seems totally bankrupt ideology. intellectually, practically... what's it stand for anymore ?
856176;1412300877;decimation;well, I would suggest that the left has so utterly dominated for so long that they have become a cartoon of themselves
856177;1412300894;thickasthieves;i have a feeling this berksire bet will be legendary past our years
856178;1412300900;mircea_popescu;more like, the derpage in charge has been nominally identified as "left" for so long.
856179;1412300925;decimation;I guess the ideological leftists are nominally in favor of the derps
856180;1412300926;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves actually, it's quite possible it's the only thing that'l even be remembered
856181;1412300942;mircea_popescu;sort-of like nobody remembers glbse, or bitcoin magazine, or w/e other derpage went on in the 2012s.
856182;1412300945;thickasthieves;so who's putting another 1k on Yes?
856183;1412300981;mircea_popescu;the thing with that is... people have waited for a while. as a result the sides are weight-unbalanced. the seed 1k on yes has a 100k weight whereas current bets only get 40k
856184;1412300990;mircea_popescu;whereas the recent 2.5k on no have 40k weight.
856185;1412300993;mircea_popescu;or 45 w/e
856186;1412301006;mircea_popescu;so the pool is like 123mn to 100mn.
856187;1412301016;decimation;it'll be awesome of btc/usd goes up another leg in the next few months and that bet becomes bigger than whatsapp
856188;1412301020;mircea_popescu;which btw... i wonder if one day the dollar value of bets will be < the pool values :D
856189;1412301026;BingoBoingo; actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. << Honestly as an alternative to fleeing the US staying back to oversee partitioning is becoming an attractive option
856190;1412301043;mircea_popescu;"oversee".
856191;1412301050;mircea_popescu;that's like what, overseeing the flood ?
856192;1412301055;thickasthieves;or the mines
856193;1412301069;mircea_popescu;decimation totally lol. if btc runs up to say 800 that no;ll need a shitload o' hedgin'.
856194;1412301100;thickasthieves;and/or if BRKA corrects
856195;1412301119;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Basically taking pictures, recording the lulz
856196;1412301129;decimation;BingoBoingo: except you are basically propsing that you want to surf the wave of terror to power
856197;1412301135;decimation;works out for some, not so much for otheres
856198;1412301178;thickasthieves;i have 5btc at 100k weight on Yes
856199;1412301213;decimation;at $800 the total bet is worth $3 mil
856200;1412301251;BingoBoingo;decimation: Nah, maybe I just want to see the world burn? I've got a camera. I've got a tent. By oversee I don't mean taking control, but documenting the absence of control for great lulz.
856201;1412301308;decimation;sure, sounds like fun. maybe we can 'mad max' together over the western wastes
856202;1412301327;BingoBoingo;Maybe?
856203;1412301338;BingoBoingo;One can't exactly oversee entropy in the same way one oversaw order on the plantations
856204;1412301387;decimation;http://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html
856205;1412301387;assbot;Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail
856206;1412301558;nubbins`;i didn't bet on brk-a
856207;1412301608;thickasthieves;i have a small bet on the other side too
856208;1412301654;nubbins`;my imaginary money is on no
856209;1412301687;nubbins`;s.mg bet cleared, trying to think of ways to make next one more interesting
856210;1412301740;thickasthieves;S.anything will have any sort of revenue
856211;1412301750;thickasthieves;sry
856212;1412301760;thickasthieves;mg or nsa
856213;1412301779;nubbins`;well i don't really have an s.nsa stock warrant sitting idle
856214;1412301837;thickasthieves;no stock for tshirts program?
856215;1412301876;nubbins`;simple job, no need to complicate w/ warrants
856216;1412302156;thickasthieves;http://www.heraldonline.com/2014/10/02/6384852_butterfly-labs-statement-on-the.html
856217;1412302156;assbot;Local news from Rock Hill, SC | The Herald
856218;1412302177;thickasthieves;they are repopening after talks with FTC
856219;1412302191;nubbins`;"labeling of the company as bogus and scammers"
856220;1412302198;nubbins`;your company is bogus and scammers!
856221;1412302390;dub;no you is
856222;1412302579;kakobrekla;http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628
856223;1412302580;assbot;Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
856224;1412302581;kakobrekla;heh
856225;1412302751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 213 @ 0.00280001 = 0.5964 BTC [-] {3}
856226;1412302813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074327 = 10.9261 BTC [-]
856227;1412302873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 95 @ 0.01079757 = 1.0258 BTC [-] {3}
856228;1412303216;mats_cd03;why does freenode suck so much
856229;1412303279;mats_cd03;i've been forced to reconnect five or six times in the last three weeks
856230;1412303299;kakobrekla;totally unacceptable
856231;1412303303;mats_cd03;failing marks for bad uptime mates
856232;1412303304;kakobrekla;for a free service
856233;1412303310;kakobrekla;better ask your money back
856234;1412303659;mats_cd03;i'm glad we're on the same page
856235;1412303910;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00074327 = 14.5681 BTC [-]
856236;1412304337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36864 @ 0.00074326 = 27.3995 BTC [-] {2}
856237;1412304398;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2354 @ 0.00074146 = 1.7454 BTC [-]
856238;1412304699;BingoBoingo;%t
856239;1412304701;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 200 Last Price: 266 24h-Vol: 1k High: 266 Low: 266 VWAP: 266
856240;1412304906;BingoBoingo;Much lulz http://www.dailystormer.com/what-i-learned-from-my-time-in-prison/
856241;1412304907;assbot;What I Learned from My Time in Prison | Daily Stormer
856242;1412307672;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: plenty of orns!
856243;1412307689;asciilifeform;(or were they orns?)
856244;1412307712;*;asciilifeform blows dust off 'intro to norse'
856245;1412307720;BingoBoingo;Oh many many things.
856246;1412307812;Dimsler;BingoBoingo, thats a good read
856247;1412308170;decimation;odin doth frown upon the state of norway
856248;1412308228;Dimsler;18 days in jail
856249;1412308234;Dimsler;for doing 50km/h over the limit
856250;1412308239;Dimsler;in norway
856251;1412308240;Dimsler;btw
856252;1412308242;asciilifeform;Oin.
856253;1412308276;asciilifeform;Dimsler: to even own car in No, you have to be genuinely and truly loaded.
856254;1412308306;Dimsler;all those germanic places creap me the fuck out
856255;1412308313;Dimsler;as much as i love swedish girls
856256;1412308321;Dimsler;the nords are just on another planet
856257;1412308363;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00074248 = 6.3786 BTC [+]
856258;1412308375;Dimsler;not too sure how this hick from the ozarks is relating himself to anytype of nord valhalla anything
856259;1412308589;mircea_popescu;!up DanielKrawisz
856260;1412308611;BingoBoingo;Dimsler: My understanding of it is that in US prisons Scandanavian lore is appropriated so as to be "Whiter than the Brits"
856261;1412308620;DanielKrawisz;Oh, hello.
856262;1412308625;mircea_popescu;I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude
856263;1412308635;DanielKrawisz;I don't understand IRC very well. I'm trying to get into the WOT.
856264;1412308648;Dimsler;oh no
856265;1412308648;mircea_popescu;where was that wiki link
856266;1412308652;Dimsler;you have to get into WOW first
856267;1412308654;Dimsler;and make a character
856268;1412308657;mircea_popescu;!s first steps
856269;1412308657;assbot;112 results for 'first steps' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=first+steps
856270;1412308674;DanielKrawisz;Thanks, I'm trying to follow this. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
856271;1412308675;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
856272;1412308678;mircea_popescu;right.
856273;1412308712;Dimsler;lol
856274;1412308719;Dimsler;what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute?
856275;1412308729;Dimsler;seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here?
856276;1412308757;mircea_popescu;heraldonline ?!
856277;1412308770;BingoBoingo; what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? << Recent college kids playing with the idea of an online museum
856278;1412308773;DanielKrawisz;There is no satoshi bible.
856279;1412308777;DanielKrawisz;It's living code.
856280;1412308785;Dimsler;oh like the matrix?
856281;1412308800;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz this "reddit should build on bitcoin" stuff is lulzy.
856282;1412308807;mircea_popescu;reddit isn't there to build something useful.
856283;1412308818;Dimsler;i know
856284;1412308819;DanielKrawisz;Basically, we started out as an econ discussion group at a university called the Mises Circle, but then I got everyone talking almost exclusively about bitcoin.
856285;1412308821;mircea_popescu;reddit is there to try and leech something if at all possible. sort-of like an online hot topic.
856286;1412308837;decimation;BingoBoingo: I suspect that some degree of 'white power' in prision is 'us v. them'
856287;1412308838;DanielKrawisz;And then we were like, "Wouldn't it be hilarious if we started the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute?" for a while and then we stopped making jokes about it and just did it.
856288;1412308839;Dimsler;reddit is built off cat pictures and gonewild
856289;1412308850;Dimsler;its a source of amusement, entertainment, and misinformation
856290;1412308859;DanielKrawisz;Yeah, I think reddit doesn't quite understand what they're doing.
856291;1412308866;mircea_popescu; why does freenode suck so much << because they essentially gave up ? just riding things as they are into the night, as it were.
856292;1412308881;Dimsler;a pascification of the proletariat
856293;1412308895;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz, they fully understand what they are doing
856294;1412308921;DanielKrawisz;Oh, they are doing a deliberate pump and dump?
856295;1412308939;Dimsler;no
856296;1412308951;Dimsler;they are doing what cryptographics has made popular
856297;1412308955;Dimsler;there own digital currency
856298;1412308960;mircea_popescu; seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here? <<< unlike 99% of the derps derping about bitcoin, i don't recall these folks saying anything infuriatingly stupid.
856299;1412308994;DanielKrawisz;Oh yeah, we always complain about the stupidity over in our group too.
856300;1412308996;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, he called it the nakamoto institute
856301;1412309001;BingoBoingo; I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude << Given the alternatives in Usaschwitz, that Thompson guy found an interesting defense against the Feds with his selectively unreliable narration.
856302;1412309003;Dimsler;how is that not initself infuriating
856303;1412309006;mircea_popescu;so what's in a name.
856304;1412309027;mircea_popescu;i dunno, it doesn't get me. it doesn't have bit into it.
856305;1412309045;Dimsler;ugh
856306;1412309045;mircea_popescu;if it were the nakabit insticoin it'd have been more annoying. course also lulzier.
856307;1412309060;mircea_popescu;especially if the bad instigation puns started flowing.,
856308;1412309062;DanielKrawisz;Well we wanted to use that name because we agreed that a lot of the bitcoin world was trying to downplay him.
856309;1412309062;Dimsler;people that put bit or coin into anything should be publically flogged
856310;1412309079;mircea_popescu;you mean cryptopublically bitflogged ?
856311;1412309087;DanielKrawisz;Hahaha
856312;1412309087;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz, because cryptographics was not invented by him
856313;1412309105;Dimsler;and cryptographic based currencies and other online currencies have been around since digicash
856314;1412309107;Dimsler;which was like 1989
856315;1412309108;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz that's unavoidable. it's the nature of the ignorant twerps making up the us horde, to overplay their own narcisism against history.
856316;1412309115;DanielKrawisz;Digicash is very different from bitcoin.
856317;1412309123;mircea_popescu;i'm surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler, back in iowa or something
856318;1412309130;DanielKrawisz;It's a money substitute, like a bank note. I'm writing a paper on this stuff now.
856319;1412309134;mircea_popescu;Dimsler get outta here.
856320;1412309138;Dimsler;lol
856321;1412309145;mircea_popescu;this is like saying cars have been around since 1600 because oxcarts.
856322;1412309156;DanielKrawisz;Haha, indeed.
856323;1412309171;mircea_popescu;there is exactly zero continuity between bitcoin and all the idiotic derpage prior.
856324;1412309175;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler'
856325;1412309177;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz, can you write about how satoshi didn't understand economics and based his theory on murray rothbards teachings
856326;1412309191;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform right you are, huh.
856327;1412309205;mircea_popescu;Dimsler wouldja stop trying to drive people into a wall deliberately.
856328;1412309215;DanielKrawisz;Then there were some proposals for digital collectibles; b-money, RPOW, and bit gold. Those things were an important step forward, but RPOW was the only one ever implemented, and it didn't take off. I don't think they would have worked. Bitcoin fixed a lot of stuff that they got wrong.
856329;1412309215;Dimsler;lol ok ok
856330;1412309247;mircea_popescu;yeah, like, penicillin fixed a lot of stuff shaman cures got wrong.
856331;1412309264;mircea_popescu;let's be clear here : wanting something, no matter how intensively, is NOT grounds for relation with the thing once made.
856332;1412309271;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz, quantitative monetary theory
856333;1412309274;Dimsler;i'll leave that with you
856334;1412309277;*;asciilifeform has yet to meet a p2p derpatronics experimented from '95-'05 era who -didn't- have own secret pseudo-bitcoin at the time
856335;1412309279;Dimsler;to dwell on
856336;1412309279;mircea_popescu;this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6
856337;1412309286;asciilifeform;*experimenter
856338;1412309291;mircea_popescu;and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made
856339;1412309310;DanielKrawisz;Well Bitcoin used a lot of elements and ideas from the digital collectibles, so I think there is some continutity, but it's very innovative too.
856340;1412309314;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you mean then, or now ?
856341;1412309319;asciilifeform;then.
856342;1412309324;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz zero elements. i challenge you, list one such
856343;1412309325;asciilifeform;and in very dire cases - now
856344;1412309325;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform bs.
856345;1412309340;DanielKrawisz;Ok Dimsler
856346;1412309351;BingoBoingo; mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler' << Long himself had a prototype in William Jennings Bryant
856347;1412309370;Dimsler;i thought chaplin was the original hitler?
856348;1412309370;mircea_popescu;i dunno what huey long is supposed to be other than a sort of us peron.
856349;1412309373;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: mr mold fessed up to having had something in that vein. and at one point i did. (neither very interesting)
856350;1412309374;Dimsler;moustache and all
856351;1412309386;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what;'s the meaning of "in that vein" ?
856352;1412309396;mircea_popescu;because in 1985 i had something "in the vein" of the ipad.
856353;1412309404;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: attempt at solving basic problem of the 'martian bank'
856354;1412309405;mircea_popescu;needless to say... i'm no twinkletwerps.
856355;1412309408;asciilifeform;!s martian bank
856356;1412309409;assbot;0 results for 'martian bank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=martian+bank
856357;1412309410;mircea_popescu;attempt ? orly ?
856358;1412309417;asciilifeform;hm
856359;1412309424;asciilifeform;!s lunar bank
856360;1412309424;assbot;0 results for 'lunar bank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=lunar+bank
856361;1412309424;mircea_popescu;well done. you know who else ? some guy at the time of the invention of the wheel
856362;1412309426;asciilifeform;damn
856363;1412309448;mircea_popescu;attempts are no qualification. i attempted to prove fermat's theorem, too
856364;1412309456;Dimsler;i could probably argue that humanity would be far better off if they hadn't invented the wheel
856365;1412309457;asciilifeform;that was precisely the kind of thing meant.
856366;1412309459;mircea_popescu;does not mean i had something in the vein of the complex set theory that eventualy did it.
856367;1412309460;Dimsler;probably even happier too
856368;1412309481;asciilifeform;just observing that a mathematically-inclined boy is of course going to try to prove flt.
856369;1412309486;mircea_popescu;sure.
856370;1412309496;mircea_popescu;o also, i attempted to bring a dead girl back.
856371;1412309502;mircea_popescu;which i guess makes me something in the vein of jesus ?
856372;1412309506;Dimsler;hey thats possible now
856373;1412309511;asciilifeform;how dead ?
856374;1412309514;Dimsler;i heard 16hrs after the heart stops beating
856375;1412309519;Dimsler;if you cool down the body
856376;1412309521;mircea_popescu;Dimsler not after her blood's sorted by weight
856377;1412309524;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ^ that dead.
856378;1412309527;asciilifeform;lol
856379;1412309532;asciilifeform;parachute didn't open ?
856380;1412309541;mircea_popescu;long story.
856381;1412309553;*;asciilifeform would probably enjoy this story
856382;1412309569;mircea_popescu;when we're in prison, if we end up in the same cell, gladly.
856383;1412309569;DanielKrawisz;You can read my paper when it's done.
856384;1412309574;asciilifeform;lol
856385;1412309583;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz link it here, someone prolly will.
856386;1412309587;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz, are you on here via mobile device?
856387;1412309595;DanielKrawisz;No, why?
856388;1412309603;Dimsler;nothing just wondering
856389;1412309608;mircea_popescu;cause he doesn't understand how ip allocation works.
856390;1412309629;Dimsler;lol no?
856391;1412309661;Dimsler;could easily be on wifi
856392;1412309663;mircea_popescu;Dimsler seen a lot of mobile devices on times warner cable ?
856393;1412309682;Dimsler;he could have a router at home, and talking on his ipad
856394;1412309688;mircea_popescu;sure.
856395;1412309690;Dimsler;he was capitalizing each fresh sentence
856396;1412309692;Dimsler;hence why i asked
856397;1412309718;mircea_popescu;That's just good interneting!
856398;1412309779;decimation;!up DanielKrawisz_
856399;1412309797;DanielKrawisz_;Oh dang it.
856400;1412309803;DanielKrawisz_;Well I guess I'll have to complete the process later.
856401;1412309828;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ you know this julia turianski chick ?
856402;1412309839;DanielKrawisz_;Never heard of her.
856403;1412309846;Dimsler;lol
856404;1412309850;Dimsler;surprise surprise
856405;1412309861;mircea_popescu;a ok.
856406;1412309883;mircea_popescu;http://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-krawisz/21/bb1/323 << you know that's like, the worst cv i ever saw on linkedin btw ?
856407;1412309913;DanielKrawisz_;Oh, she did 26 ways to be a bitcoin hater?
856408;1412309916;DanielKrawisz_;Yeah, that was pretty funny.
856409;1412309933;DanielKrawisz_;What's wrong with my linkedin cv?
856410;1412309936;mircea_popescu;fellow canuckian, thinks she knows everybody.
856411;1412309955;Dimsler;no hes texan
856412;1412309960;Dimsler;hes just behind his colo now
856413;1412309961;mircea_popescu;o you gotta be kidding me. videogame developer 2012-2012, "research director" at nowhere, 2014-onwards ?
856414;1412309968;mircea_popescu;dja have any idea how that looks to business eyes ?
856415;1412309977;DanielKrawisz_;No, I've never done any business.
856416;1412309980;decimation;yeah um is that a paid position?
856417;1412309994;Dimsler;none of these look like paid anything
856418;1412310026;Dimsler;I teach bitcoiners about the implications of Bitcoin so as to alter their behavior in a way that improves the overall health of the Bitcoin network.
856419;1412310034;Dimsler;lol can you teach us?
856420;1412310053;Dimsler;i thirst for knowledge about how to keep my monies healthy
856421;1412310087;DanielKrawisz_;Are you just trying to get in an argument with me or something?
856422;1412310094;mircea_popescu;which one of us ?
856423;1412310121;DanielKrawisz_;Dimsler, sorry.
856424;1412310153;mircea_popescu;i think he's just being jadedly nihilistic.
856425;1412310166;DanielKrawisz_;Oh ok. Well good for him.
856426;1412310192;mircea_popescu;meh, that thing's like humour. works a lot better if unexpected.
856427;1412310199;Dimsler;hey i'd burn everything
856428;1412310201;Dimsler;down to the ground
856429;1412310219;Dimsler;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-M4WXov2lM
856430;1412310219;assbot;Down to the gwound - YouTube
856431;1412310219;mircea_popescu;fucking on a pile of ash is unconducive.
856432;1412310369;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ anyway, get into wot so i can rate you so you can selfvoice
856433;1412310405;decimation;DanielKrawisz_: I'm kinda serious, how do you make money 'researching bitcoin'? people gotta eat right?
856434;1412310427;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz_, you have been an academic for 15yrs?
856435;1412310437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01079964 = 0.54 BTC [-] {3}
856436;1412310471;mircea_popescu;decimation unless he's married, he doesn't actually have to ever work in the us. you know this, right ?
856437;1412310521;Dimsler;i'm not sure if some of these articles contain the eloquence of someone with a masters in physics
856438;1412310536;mircea_popescu;"Alternative Rights Colin Liddell Attacks Andrew Anglin for Defending Robert Ransdell Against RamZPaul 332 comments"
856439;1412310548;mircea_popescu;holy shit on a stick, 4 people i never heard of ?! and likely nobody has ?
856440;1412310559;mircea_popescu;incredible.
856441;1412310569;DanielKrawisz_;;;eregester DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64
856442;1412310570;gribble;Error: "eregester" is not a valid command.
856443;1412310574;decimation;ah you mean the sabu route
856444;1412310588;DanielKrawisz_;;;eregister DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64
856445;1412310588;gribble;Error: '26AB' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
856446;1412310621;mircea_popescu;"If Kentuckians write-in Robert Ransdell as their choice for Senator in the 2014 election they will support my plan to fix America by pursuing the ..." bla bla bla. write-in candidates for kentucky elections ?! holy shit, it's almost as if... i dunno, my similes fail me. i don't have something for this nonsense.
856447;1412310627;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz_, can you privately message gribble instead?
856448;1412310638;mircea_popescu;Dimsler let him be, this way we can help him debug
856449;1412310641;Duffer1;you can /query gribble
856450;1412310641;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ eregIster
856451;1412310650;mircea_popescu;and no spaces.
856452;1412310651;DanielKrawisz_;Yeah, I spelled it wrong.
856453;1412310651;Duffer1;no spaces in key
856454;1412310656;Dimsler;k
856455;1412310665;DanielKrawisz_;;;eregister DanielKrawisz 101BBC10F86C4A64
856456;1412310669;gribble;Request successful for user DanielKrawisz, hostmask DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/101BBC10F86C4A64
856457;1412310717;mircea_popescu;Robert Ransdell is running for U.S. Senate in Kentucky with the campaign slogan 'With Jews We Lose.'
856458;1412310719;mircea_popescu;o.O
856459;1412310726;Dimsler;LOL
856460;1412310728;Dimsler;fuck
856461;1412310772;mircea_popescu;check out the mfas : http://www.cincinnati.com/ http://www.courier-journal.com/ etc
856462;1412310776;assbot;Cincinnati Enquirer
856463;1412310780;assbot;Louisville News, Sports, Business | The Courier-Journal
856464;1412310804;Dimsler;i can't read american publications
856465;1412310818;Dimsler;literary filth at best
856466;1412310828;mircea_popescu;http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/florence/2014/09/26/bagelman-bites-back-at-anti-semitic-candidate/16283169/ << total fucking lol of all time.
856467;1412310830;assbot;Bagelman bites back at anti-semitic candidate
856468;1412310859;mircea_popescu;"I wanted to reach out to the community," said Marx, who is Catholic. "We had an over-run of challah for the New Year, and we gave them away." << lmao.
856469;1412310868;mircea_popescu;such smallness. i had no idea there's so much tiny at hand.
856470;1412310912;decimation;middle america is routinely mocked by the elites on the coasts
856471;1412310927;mircea_popescu;apparently it's being mocked by the elites abroad, too.
856472;1412310930;Duffer1;and by reasonable people the world over
856473;1412310937;mircea_popescu;but seriously, this derp can't stand for middle anything.
856474;1412310952;decimation;he's a derp, no doubt, highlighted by the local lefties
856475;1412310976;decimation;kulaks gotta be dekulaked and all
856476;1412310982;mircea_popescu;the most he could stand for would be perhaps a brand of goth from one particular hs. they were doing hitler that year.
856477;1412311028;Dimsler;you guys see the irony here right?
856478;1412311031;Dimsler;his last name is marx
856479;1412311031;mircea_popescu;"He's a very bad person," said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which tracks hate groups. << actually, heidi is the bad person here.
856480;1412311033;decimation;'nazi' crap is a particular chumpatron that the dumb stumble into
856481;1412311048;decimation;might as well label themselves "I am a kulak, crush my shit"
856482;1412311098;DanielKrawisz_;Ok, I got in.
856483;1412311109;mircea_popescu;;;ident DanielKrawisz_
856484;1412311110;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None
856485;1412311124;decimation;she thinks that her job is to help 'disadvantaged' people but her actual job is to maintain the "no enemies to the left" chumpatron
856486;1412311180;mircea_popescu;;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
856487;1412311180;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
856488;1412311183;mircea_popescu;eh get out.
856489;1412311199;DanielKrawisz_;Thanks.
856490;1412311234;decimation;DanielKrawisz_: it didn't work
856491;1412311239;mircea_popescu;;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
856492;1412311239;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
856493;1412311246;decimation;;;ident DanielKrawisz_
856494;1412311246;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None
856495;1412311247;Dimsler;hes not in
856496;1412311253;mircea_popescu;;;rate DanielKrawisz 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
856497;1412311254;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
856498;1412311273;DanielKrawisz_;That's quite a complement.
856499;1412311279;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ in the future you auth with gribble and pm assbot !up
856500;1412311285;DanielKrawisz_;I got logged off so now I have an underscore at the end of my name.
856501;1412311295;Dimsler;./nick
856502;1412311298;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ i infuriate easily.
856503;1412311298;decimation;yeah that's an irc thing
856504;1412311311;Dimsler;but hes also easily amused!
856505;1412311323;mircea_popescu;i have all the requisite qualities of senile dementia
856506;1412311330;mircea_popescu;now i just gotta meet the age qual.
856507;1412311345;Dimsler;too much flouride in the drinking water
856508;1412311354;mircea_popescu;not here.
856509;1412311359;Dimsler;ohhh
856510;1412311362;Dimsler;how are you liking argentina?
856511;1412311367;mircea_popescu;they can;'t afford fluoride so they have to rub wooden sticks together
856512;1412311371;mircea_popescu;i love argentina
856513;1412311377;mircea_popescu;o which reminds me i was going to post some pics
856514;1412311379;Dimsler;fuck thats exactly where i belong
856515;1412311382;DanielKrawisz_;Originally I was going to be a physics professor but there are a lot of things about professional physics academics that are a lot less fun than the physics, so I dropped out.
856516;1412311383;Dimsler;i gotta pack my shit down there
856517;1412311402;Dimsler;DanielKrawisz_, so you started studying economics?
856518;1412311405;mircea_popescu;DanielKrawisz_ originally i was going to be a physicist.
856519;1412311413;mircea_popescu;but i actually had more sense than that at about 16.
856520;1412311415;Dimsler;lol
856521;1412311417;decimation;DanielKrawisz_: the general feeling here is that academia in the us is a bureaucracy that has little to do with actually advancing human knowledge/technology
856522;1412311417;Dimsler;lawyer here
856523;1412311423;DanielKrawisz_;Cool.
856524;1412311453;mircea_popescu;Dimsler orly ? what do you practice ?
856525;1412311461;Dimsler;oh nothing now
856526;1412311465;mircea_popescu;what did you practice.
856527;1412311479;Dimsler;nothing we were talking about schooling
856528;1412311488;mircea_popescu;that's not a lawyer now is it.
856529;1412311500;DanielKrawisz_;Yeah, academics is a leisure activity, and there's kind of a conflict when it becomes professional.
856530;1412311504;Dimsler;no way left lawschool
856531;1412311517;Dimsler;now i spend my days spinning in a chair really
856532;1412311532;mircea_popescu;if a girl did that they'd call her a slut.
856533;1412311538;Dimsler;see
856534;1412311593;Dimsler;actually i left law school to program algorhythms for automated trading systems
856535;1412311596;decimation;well, there's certainly a conflict of interest between "researching physics" and "maintaining a career in physics"
856536;1412311609;Dimsler;msg assbot !up
856537;1412311612;Dimsler;to up yourlse
856538;1412311662;mircea_popescu;decimation myeah, actual science is for rich people, not for clerks.
856539;1412311680;Dimsler;just like BA studies are
856540;1412311693;mircea_popescu;people who hope to make their living at science can not be considered scientists. that should be the first crtierion on the peer review process. "independently wealthy ?" if no, can not participate in science.
856541;1412311703;bounce;with nice hand-blown instruments in brass cases!
856542;1412311721;mircea_popescu;this seems obvious enough with say, love. people who hope to earn a living at it can't really make very good lovers.
856543;1412311724;decimation;mainly because they have the 'free time' that asciilifeform desires
856544;1412311732;mircea_popescu;yet somehow when it leaves that realm everyone's suddenly confused.
856545;1412311755;decimation;probably the same thing with medicine too
856546;1412311779;mircea_popescu;with the independent professions it becomes more iffy. doctors and lawyers earned their keep doing the job for centuries without ill effect.
856547;1412311782;Dimsler;medicine is such nigger work
856548;1412311789;mircea_popescu;for just as long as they depended for pay on their own customers.
856549;1412311792;bounce;plenty scientists have done so on sufferance of the local lord, no reason why they couldn't do it on sufferance of the government
856550;1412311802;mircea_popescu;once they started being paid by corporations / the state, it all went to shit.
856551;1412311808;Dimsler;i don't know a single non-american doctor who isn't miserable
856552;1412311808;mircea_popescu;bounce name one.
856553;1412311824;mircea_popescu;Dimsler i know plenty.
856554;1412311836;decimation;as the link I put up yesterday explained, most doctors did more to hurt than heal before 1900, the 'talented amateur' was the local nurse lady who would try to keep you comfortable
856555;1412311839;bounce;pfft. too early to do the research.
856556;1412311859;mircea_popescu;bounce then allow me to use this opportunity to expose before your eyes your own automatism.
856557;1412311864;mircea_popescu;what other places is it operant ?
856558;1412311868;Dimsler;problem with being a scientifist in todays modern age is you aren't working from home
856559;1412311885;Dimsler;you're stuck in academia
856560;1412311888;mircea_popescu;decimation dubious theory, but anyway.
856561;1412311901;Dimsler;very dubious
856562;1412311920;mircea_popescu;generally the problem is that people ascribe the benefits of santiation to medicine. this is false.
856563;1412311933;mircea_popescu;actual doctors today are about as hacky/harmful as they were cca 1714.
856564;1412311940;Dimsler;correct
856565;1412311942;mircea_popescu;mostly because the problem they face is so complex.
856566;1412311972;Duffer1;speaking of dr, that coffee was a big hit, thanks for the suggestion MP
856567;1412311978;decimation;yeah I would say that's probably true in most cases
856568;1412311985;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 cheers.
856569;1412311995;Dimsler;which coffee?
856570;1412312005;decimation;until someone can give an engineering-level account of the human body and all its processes, it's gonna stay that way
856571;1412312014;Duffer1;nurse gifts, 3lbs of primo coffee per shift
856572;1412312030;Duffer1;and for dr
856573;1412312033;mircea_popescu;decimation you can appreciate the shittyness of it, right ? suppose you were given the task of fixing code you may not read running on a one of a kind processor you don't even have the spec for.
856574;1412312047;mircea_popescu;and then blamed you for the results, but praised "nature" for the success.
856575;1412312066;decimation;yeah, it's a delicate microstructure and your tools are basically 'hammer' and 'sledge'
856576;1412312089;Dimsler;well i mean todays operations are much much cleaner
856577;1412312096;mircea_popescu;OR you could pour yogurt over it and see
856578;1412312102;mircea_popescu;THREE!!! three choices!
856579;1412312220;asciilifeform;problem of definitions.
856580;1412312226;asciilifeform;'doctor' is - cleanup crew.
856581;1412312229;mircea_popescu;aren;t they all.
856582;1412312238;asciilifeform;example. say room-temperature supercons appear.
856583;1412312265;asciilifeform;then everyone with some money can scan himself when he wakes up, right after toilet, for malignant growths.
856584;1412312281;asciilifeform;say +10 lifespan, whatever. who gets credit?
856585;1412312283;asciilifeform;doctors? nope
856586;1412312292;asciilifeform;similar to sanitation example.
856587;1412312328;decimation;asciilifeform: the scanner would have to see down the molecules to determine malignancy in-situ
856588;1412312339;mircea_popescu;i doubt malignancies are the main problem. i think the main problem of medicine today is still metabolism
856589;1412312350;mircea_popescu;mirroring exactly the situation in the times of mr h.
856590;1412312350;asciilifeform;decimation: not necessarily. just monitor for out-of-place masses, would go a long way.
856591;1412312357;asciilifeform;consider, elsewhere:
856592;1412312362;mircea_popescu;three thousand years and uncountable changes in everything later.
856593;1412312377;asciilifeform;firemen get (and deserve) no credit for the relative incombustibility of modern dwellings compared to those of the past.
856594;1412312389;Dimsler;lol the past?
856595;1412312392;Dimsler;you mean like
856596;1412312396;Dimsler;concrete?
856597;1412312398;asciilifeform;pre-concrete
856598;1412312404;mircea_popescu;actually... i think us houses are the most combustible things ever in the history of dwellings.
856599;1412312406;Dimsler;there was firemen pre-concrete?
856600;1412312411;asciilifeform;(if you must, old japan vs. current)
856601;1412312417;mircea_popescu;Dimsler firemen have as much history as the french.
856602;1412312420;Dimsler;yeah like the combustable house and obsession with firemen is a north american thing
856603;1412312430;decimation;well, loads of bureaucrats have been harassing people to spray various dubious fireproofing chemicals on everything
856604;1412312435;asciilifeform;Dimsler: nope. in japan, far greater obsession even.
856605;1412312446;mircea_popescu;yeah but in japan they have cause.
856606;1412312453;Dimsler;yeah i know
856607;1412312453;asciilifeform;paper houses. just like present-day usa.
856608;1412312475;asciilifeform;poor countries are much alike.
856609;1412312481;mircea_popescu;problem i nthe usa isn't as much the per se combustibility, more like, all the evil shit sandwiched in there
856610;1412312490;mircea_popescu;fumes will kill you before the fire even warms you a little
856611;1412312527;Dimsler;so canucky in here
856612;1412312531;*;asciilifeform is reminded to buy current gas mask canisters
856613;1412312540;decimation;yeah modern us house is basically sawdust mixed with various kinds of glue
856614;1412312541;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski you know if you first join as d.shawcable.net the entire cloak thing loses its point
856615;1412312549;Dimsler;LOL
856616;1412312555;bounce;so newton, leibniz, van leeuwenhoek all held convenient government positions. not quite getting paid for science directly, but not quite independently wealthy either
856617;1412312563;mircea_popescu;bounce lord newton ?
856618;1412312569;mircea_popescu;you have got to be kidding me, srsly.
856619;1412312569;decimation;'government' was quite a different thing then though
856620;1412312577;mircea_popescu;that's your "not independently wealthy" example ?!
856621;1412312586;mircea_popescu;a wealthy lord with a de jure mp seat ?
856622;1412312588;asciilifeform;'independent' here just means you're funded via something other than science-as-day-job
856623;1412312593;asciilifeform;not necessarily mega-empire
856624;1412312605;asciilifeform;if i understand.
856625;1412312613;mircea_popescu;just add lavoisier to the list and we can call it a day eh.
856626;1412312627;decimation;ie they didn't have to worry about food & basic human needs
856627;1412312633;decimation;or fourier
856628;1412312640;mircea_popescu;decimation more on point : they could tell the sovereign to get fucked
856629;1412312644;mircea_popescu;and on occasion actually did.
856630;1412312657;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2014/10/darkcoin-value-drops-while-going-open-source/
856631;1412312658;assbot;Darkcoin: Value Drops while going Open Source
856632;1412312665;mircea_popescu;i would very much like to see current day "scientist" telling obama to get the fuck lost.
856633;1412312677;bounce;``Newton moved to London to take up the post of warden of the Royal Mint in 1696, a position that he had obtained through the patronage of Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, then Chancellor of the Exchequer.''
856634;1412312682;mircea_popescu;anyone recall greenspun's retelling of whatever imperial visit ?
856635;1412312693;Dimsler;but i thought obama was there leader?
856636;1412312695;asciilifeform;pu yi?
856637;1412312695;decimation;they exist, but there are at least 10 layers of fat bureaucrats between obama and the truth-knowers
856638;1412312831;mircea_popescu;btw, since he got mentioned : newton ended up the author of the gold standard in the western world.
856639;1412312838;mircea_popescu;he wrote some report, people took it seriously
856640;1412312839;asciilifeform;the pyx!
856641;1412312847;decimation;"the hlls are tall an the emperor is far away"
856642;1412312854;asciilifeform;(beautifully portrayed in n. stephenson's 'baroque cycle' epic.)
856643;1412312885;asciilifeform;http://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/history-of-the-trial-of-the-pyx
856644;1412312887;assbot;History of the Trial of the Pyx | The Royal Mint
856645;1412312945;decimation;the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air
856646;1412313022;BingoBoingo;decimation> the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air << To the extend Geography poses a challenge to verification they could pretend
856647;1412313167;decimation;one problem being that once the sovereign decides that insolvency is the new solvent it gives leave for everyone else to do so, especially using the king's scrip
856648;1412313173;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: v. good point about the shaw thing. i'm logging on from a different comp and i don't quite have the flow sorted on this one.
856649;1412313218;asciilifeform;insolvency is the new solvent << hunger is the new delicacy. and then let's all make backyard steel.
856650;1412313220;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: is it me or is pete_d on a roll ? << and i think it's just you :D
856651;1412313231;Dimsler;lol
856652;1412313240;decimation;this 'trial of the pyx' is hilarious
856653;1412313243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17598 @ 0.00074125 = 13.0445 BTC [-] {2}
856654;1412313244;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "whoredom is the new chastity". see, this one works.
856655;1412313251;mircea_popescu;the key is to stick to the human, rather than the real.
856656;1412313269;decimation;surely serious men must find it extremely silly to sit around and pretend that nickel coated zinc is worth a shit
856657;1412313293;Dimsler;uh
856658;1412313294;Dimsler;lol
856659;1412313305;Dimsler;vs a string of numbers?
856660;1412313312;Dimsler;its worth what you choose it to be worth
856661;1412313313;asciilifeform;'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose
856662;1412313313;asciilifeform;it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' '
856663;1412313334;asciilifeform;(re: stick to the human)
856664;1412313434;pete_dushenski_;strp: no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with. << classic wilyotp (walk in like you own the place). gotta love the endless supply of such thinking.
856665;1412313462;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski_ it's mostly recycled.
856666;1412313470;asciilifeform;endless supply << it's the same hero, with at least 5 names
856667;1412313473;decimation;it works for him because he understands physics like a high schooler except 300 years ago
856668;1412313487;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00074248 = 12.8449 BTC [+]
856669;1412313529;mircea_popescu;lmao
856670;1412313538;mircea_popescu;i didn't know decimation could bite.
856671;1412313578;decimation;i have my moments
856672;1412313606;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i propose my objection is better grounded than that.
856673;1412313624;pete_dushenski_;assbot: Farrakhan claims Ebola invented to kill off blacks | Fox News << i always thought that was aids' job...
856674;1412313629;mircea_popescu;specifically : when dealing with an item, trying harder is for when things work, and trying something else when things don't work.
856675;1412313638;mircea_popescu;when dealing with a woman... apparently, the opposite!
856676;1412313670;Dimsler;such irrational creatures
856677;1412313675;mircea_popescu;no u.
856678;1412313680;pete_dushenski_;lol
856679;1412313680;Dimsler;me too
856680;1412313805;mircea_popescu;http://qntra.net/2014/10/keeping-bitcoin-is-a-hard-problem/ << o look at that ?!
856681;1412313806;assbot;Keeping Bitcoin is a Hard Problem
856682;1412313814;mircea_popescu;is this the cazalla-BingoBoingo adventure ?
856683;1412313838;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It is indeed
856684;1412313859;mircea_popescu;don't go all lyrical & philosophical on people now. you got oyur blogs for that. stick to facts and practice good journalism
856685;1412313865;mircea_popescu;to inform and enlighten!
856686;1412313930;BingoBoingo;Noted
856687;1412313945;decimation;you know what orwell missed was that you didn't really need "Big Brother" to convince everyone that the digits/zinc is worth anything - you just need 'the people' to have a 'stake' in the success of the graft and they will 'big brother' themselves
856688;1412313949;Dimsler;a murder of crows
856689;1412313993;mircea_popescu;there is no such thing as "the people" any more than there are "women" or "blacks" or "jews" or "strippers" or "sluts" or "coeds" or so forth
856690;1412314004;Dimsler;fucking jews
856691;1412314015;mircea_popescu;it's fun, if you get the right ones.
856692;1412314101;bounce;so why does english have different names for groups of animals and then specify the animal anyway?
856693;1412314145;mircea_popescu;a sedge o' bitterns ; a sounder o' boar ; a blush o' boys ; a bellowing o' bullfinches ; a draught o' butlers.
856694;1412314153;Dimsler;because english is an aweful language
856695;1412314164;Dimsler;its a bastardization of germanic latin and french
856696;1412314169;mircea_popescu;bounce because venery.
856697;1412314178;mircea_popescu;you familiar with the ever elusive snipe ?
856698;1412314197;Dimsler;mmm snipe
856699;1412314256;bounce;tried to hunt it by myself once, no dice.
856700;1412314299;Dimsler;thats the joke
856701;1412314304;mircea_popescu;right. for many years men gathered together, trying with their humble powers to implement as much of a bitcoin-assets as possible.
856702;1412314305;Dimsler;you can never catch one
856703;1412314318;mircea_popescu;not much was possible throughout much of that history, but the idea still nevertheless recognisably remains.
856704;1412314326;asciilifeform;where and how might one expect to meet 'draught o' butlers' !? what's next, 'a slurp of supernovae' ?
856705;1412314359;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform conceivably supernovae would be more like a cough than a slurp
856706;1412314370;mircea_popescu;you mean a slurp o' black holes ?
856707;1412314371;asciilifeform;'a clutter of cunts' ?
856708;1412314377;Dimsler;oh thats a funny one
856709;1412314378;mircea_popescu;n o, that's a smatter.
856710;1412314387;*;asciilifeform not pro
856711;1412314388;Dimsler;no i think its a clutter
856712;1412314388;mircea_popescu;as in, o honey, 'sthematter ?
856713;1412314436;mircea_popescu;"her tits aren't really that much bigger, it's the light."
856714;1412314482;BingoBoingo;'a bounce of tits'
856715;1412314489;mircea_popescu;hear hear
856716;1412314496;asciilifeform;'a tiling of tits'
856717;1412314503;mircea_popescu;hm, also.
856718;1412314513;mircea_popescu;why is the boob forever cursed with ambigous multinominity ?
856719;1412314519;asciilifeform;student exercise; tile the plane with...
856720;1412314525;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-incredulous-photographer-and-the-subjects-of-his-incredulity/
856721;1412314536;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know i famously proposed this once ?
856722;1412314541;mircea_popescu;lemme tell you all about it!
856723;1412314546;asciilifeform;!?
856724;1412314555;mircea_popescu;before womanly assembly i took my magisterial pose
856725;1412314557;mircea_popescu;that suits me so
856726;1412314575;mircea_popescu;and proceeded to proclaim that perhaps the best example of society marginalising women known to anthropology is
856727;1412314587;mircea_popescu;that no natural measurement of length works as the distance between the nipples
856728;1412314598;mircea_popescu;and yet, if you think of it, there should! they're like natural calipers.
856729;1412314614;mircea_popescu;took them a good five minutes to figure out the whole thing;s a snipe.
856730;1412314621;decimation;a bit wobbly as a ruler don't you think?
856731;1412314634;mircea_popescu;plus they vary a lot by measurer.
856732;1412314646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00074571 = 27.815 BTC [+] {4}
856733;1412314648;mircea_popescu;plus... you know... who wants to put her nipple on random tihngs.
856734;1412314648;mircea_popescu;etc.
856735;1412314692;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the chap on the bike had grinding wheel ?
856736;1412314699;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yup
856737;1412314709;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: we had these.
856738;1412314709;mircea_popescu;THAT is sustainability, the real kind.
856739;1412314713;mircea_popescu;think he'll ever starve ? i don't.
856740;1412314732;decimation;it would demean women to treat them as objects to measure, rather than measure as objects
856741;1412314750;mircea_popescu;decimation you know what an inch originally was right ? or a foot
856742;1412314756;asciilifeform;the real neato is that: that bike converts.
856743;1412314762;asciilifeform;for quick getaway. to normal bike.
856744;1412314770;asciilifeform;(look at rear wheel & the pulley scheme)
856745;1412314781;mircea_popescu;or for that matter the latin excloppus
856746;1412314793;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yup
856747;1412314812;decimation;I thought it was related to the pace?
856748;1412314816;decimation;the foot anyway
856749;1412314857;mircea_popescu;yeah. and the inch to the hand.
856750;1412314904;decimation;asciilifeform: I have one of those folding bikes, it is pretty compact (but heavy and ungainly) when folded
856751;1412314913;mircea_popescu;(thumb knuckle to tip)
856752;1412314975;asciilifeform;phun phact. old russian unit of measure, 'вершок' (vershok) ~= 'lengthling' - approximately was equal to length of upper half of index finger. and it lives today! in every server room. last imperial вершок is precisely 1U of cabinet.
856753;1412315018;decimation;heh interesting
856754;1412315068;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform in romanian, vershook, fershtook = fubar.
856755;1412315090;mircea_popescu;i guess it means "a russian guy measured this, throw it away"
856756;1412315119;*;asciilifeform measured own finger, correct to 1% !
856757;1412315144;*;asciilifeform throws away finger. it stays attached.
856758;1412315151;mircea_popescu;lol
856759;1412315171;decimation;I suspect rack units acquired their height from the ability to reach into that space with a hand
856760;1412315184;mircea_popescu;decimation likely yah
856761;1412315190;asciilifeform;decimation: yes.
856762;1412315210;*;asciilifeform can always tell who did a tour of duty as a sysop in this, among other, ways.
856763;1412315243;decimation;yeah, one learns that it's best to wear 'mechanics gloves' while handling sharp metal boxes
856764;1412315259;decimation;pediwiki: The term relay rack appeared first in the world of telephony.[2] By 1911, the term was also being used in railroad signaling.[3] There is little evidence that the dimensions of these early racks were standardized. The 19-inch rack format with rack-units of 1.75 inches and holes tapped for 12-24 screws with alternating spacings of 1.25 inches and 0.5 inch was an established standard by 1934.[4] The EIA standard was revised
856765;1412315261;decimation;again in 1992 to comply with the 1988 public law 100-418, setting the standard U as 44.5mm (15.9mm + 15.9mm + 12.7mm), making each "U" officially 1.752 inches.[5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19-inch_rack
856766;1412315316;decimation;apparently it's 1.75 + 2 mil - probably to fit the shelving
856767;1412315439;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00074144 = 5.0418 BTC [-]
856768;1412315500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00074109 = 4.3724 BTC [-]
856769;1412315640;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Spider_and_fly_April_2008-6.jpg <<< check out the nature porn.
856770;1412315652;pete_dushenski_;kakobrekla: ever used topre ? << great! nao i kinda want one.
856771;1412315656;mircea_popescu;psycho fly guy got a pretty sweet setup there. one date only.
856772;1412315679;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: that's one sneaky spider.
856773;1412315704;mircea_popescu;"don't worry about not being on the pill, honey. i got a yellow contraceptor."
856774;1412315715;pete_dushenski_;that fly's a semi-necro. maybe that's only half-weird.
856775;1412315785;mircea_popescu;maybe the poison makes the contractions better.
856776;1412315822;pete_dushenski_;probably less pulsing and more just one looooong squeeeeeeze.
856777;1412315833;mircea_popescu;who's to know.
856778;1412315865;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: just landed on http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/ and noticed that it could use an update vis-a-vis "bitcoinpete" being retired as such
856779;1412315866;assbot;People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
856780;1412315874;mircea_popescu;a yes.
856781;1412315905;pete_dushenski_;could also use the addition of hanbot?
856782;1412315961;pete_dushenski_;and turkish toilets are still a thing, last i checked... in tokyo.
856783;1412315971;mircea_popescu;i never been to tokio
856784;1412316118;pete_dushenski_;aha! so you haven't been everywhere...
856785;1412316137;mircea_popescu;done!
856786;1412316150;*;pete_dushenski_ wonders what other corners of the world he's explored that mircea_popescu hasn't.
856787;1412316173;mircea_popescu;i've ne ver been to canada either
856788;1412316179;mircea_popescu;well, briefly, out of nh, but anyway
856789;1412316208;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: thx for updating!
856790;1412316229;pete_dushenski_;ok, so canada is 1. have you been to other parts of japan?
856791;1412316255;mircea_popescu;other parts of japan other than canada ?
856792;1412316290;pete_dushenski_;well, let's stick with countries
856793;1412316296;pete_dushenski_;1. canada
856794;1412316299;pete_dushenski_;2. japan?
856795;1412316346;mircea_popescu;my forays into asia have been limited to crossing the bosphorus.
856796;1412316418;pete_dushenski_;a ok. so we can add 2. japan, 3. china, 4. hk, 5. vietnam, 6. thailand, 7. s. korea :)
856797;1412316446;pete_dushenski_;8. singapore.
856798;1412316479;pete_dushenski_;i imagine i don't have any parts of europe to add to that list.
856799;1412316520;pete_dushenski_;and the famous pyramid-horse pic says you've been to egypt.
856800;1412316537;mircea_popescu;i've been pretty much everywhere the empire ever went.
856801;1412316549;mircea_popescu;which means you can add all of the black africa too
856802;1412316557;pete_dushenski_;being the roman?
856803;1412316588;pete_dushenski_;have you been to israel?
856804;1412316590;mircea_popescu;well yeah
856805;1412316756;pete_dushenski_;in south america i've been to colombia and brazil. also visited most of central america, mexico, and a solid chunk of the caribbean islands.
856806;1412316767;pete_dushenski_;but... never lived anywhere else.
856807;1412316778;mircea_popescu;yeah, i tend to do more intensive sort of travels.
856808;1412316821;mircea_popescu;"2. We improve the economy by attacking without mercy the concept of globalism, eliminating all foreign aid to non-White third world nations, all nations controlled by Zionist interests, and first and foremost eliminate all aid to Israel, also end all domestic aid and handouts to non-Whites, and finally disband and dissolve the Jewish-run Federal Reserve and overhaul the American stock market and the way that has worke
856809;1412316822;mircea_popescu;d for decades."
856810;1412316837;mircea_popescu;dude the policy ideas of homebrew candidates are fabulous.
856811;1412316863;mircea_popescu;"We eliminate the Muslim terror threat by first eliminating all support for Israel and then by additionally deporting all Muslims out of the American nation back to the Arab world."
856812;1412316866;mircea_popescu;that's gotta work :
856813;1412316869;mircea_popescu;:D
856814;1412316894;pete_dushenski_;maybe they should just make an ebola to target moslems?
856815;1412316899;decimation;well, it would be cheaper for the us to simply ban pakistani immigration rather than try to be omniscient w.r.t. pakistani terrorism and so forth
856816;1412316904;pete_dushenski_;it'd be more cost-effective!
856817;1412316933;mircea_popescu;decimation why do you suppose banning immigration does anything ?
856818;1412316949;decimation;well, I would ban all forms of border crossing
856819;1412316955;mircea_popescu;on what border ?
856820;1412316955;decimation;from selected states
856821;1412316963;decimation;heh good point
856822;1412316984;mircea_popescu;you could directly experiment with this idea. you could draw a line in your room, and ban all crossings of that line. see if it does anything for any variable you wish to measure.
856823;1412317015;mircea_popescu;i imagine at best it'd to nothing perceptible, if you choose the line well.
856824;1412317032;mircea_popescu;but otherwise it can become a major pain.
856825;1412317057;decimation;this problem largely solved itself in the past when only somebodies could afford to travel
856826;1412317065;mircea_popescu;what problem tho ?
856827;1412317096;decimation;well, I guess I buy into the idea that a nation and an genetic group are closely related
856828;1412317098;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: please to update blog link to -otc rating to http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pete_dushenski&sign=ANY&type=RECV :)
856829;1412317099;assbot;Rating Details for User 'pete_dushenski'
856830;1412317105;mircea_popescu;decimation only if thegy wish to be.
856831;1412317116;mircea_popescu;do you suppose any marriage can be improved by confining the woman ?
856832;1412317145;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski_ i like that you give good error reports.
856833;1412317178;mircea_popescu;done.
856834;1412317185;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: gotta be clear about what ya want, neh?
856835;1412317192;mircea_popescu;yeh.
856836;1412317203;pete_dushenski_;unlike mr. codenowaskfor1200permonthlater
856837;1412317220;RagnarDanneskjol;haha
856838;1412317317;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Billion dollar bet?" http://bitbet.us/bet/1047/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.75000001 BTC. Current weight: 91,740.
856839;1412317319;pete_dushenski_;mircea_popescu: and i also like that you linked "contravex" directly to the troll article rather than the homepage. i take that as a seal o' approval :)
856840;1412317382;mircea_popescu;for some reason i prefer to link articles.
856841;1412317461;decimation;at any rate I'm sure that these hick canidates will be promoted so that their hatred can become a shared experience for their political enemies
856842;1412317532;mircea_popescu;guy doesn't seem motivated by anything but the usual driver of reality show attendants.
856843;1412317539;mircea_popescu;that ain't hate.
856844;1412317582;mircea_popescu;and for that matter, people tend to flatter themselves with that word a lot. an ability to hate is strictly realted to spending time in conditions not available to the average english speaking derp.
856845;1412317590;mircea_popescu;much like love ain't available to the same populace.
856846;1412317648;decimation;My language was imprecise: I meant that that he would be the object of common hatred
856847;1412317657;decimation;or at least common derision
856848;1412317695;mircea_popescu;i doubt he's all that stable. he doesn't look it in any case.
856849;1412317720;mircea_popescu;"Mayo noted that Frazier Glenn Miller, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups, ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010. He was charged this year in the shooting deaths of a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather outside an Overland Park, Kan., Jewish community center."
856850;1412317729;mircea_popescu;lol these obnoxious pests.
856851;1412317744;mircea_popescu;im sure there's no libtard that ever killed anyone. o.O
856852;1412317782;decimation;heh when a libtard kills someone it's just because he's crazy, not for any political reason
856853;1412317826;mircea_popescu;well... there's a lot of merit in that. how else could his alleged "political" oppinions be explained.
856854;1412317896;decimation;I guess my point is that the media likes to trump up the crazy nazi kkk guy when there were 415 murders in chicago last year
856855;1412317935;thestringpuller;d0000d
856856;1412317945;decimation;and 33,561 traffic deaths (in the us)
856857;1412317953;mircea_popescu;if it makes you feel any better, the media does the same here. there were i dunno, like five murders in a 20mn pop town.
856858;1412317968;mircea_popescu;that's what, 5x la
856859;1412318012;decimation;if the average us guy even knows where south america is, he perceives the cities as basically gigantic barrios with constant death
856860;1412318054;mircea_popescu;they are gigantic barrios, but the only constant is fucking.
856861;1412318124;decimation;reading the wikipedia I'm surprised to find that argentina is basically 80-90% european
856862;1412318184;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42239 @ 0.0007453 = 31.4807 BTC [+] {2}
856863;1412318272;mircea_popescu;why surprised ?
856864;1412318285;pete_dushenski_;lulzy promoted tweet: https://twitter.com/RelayRides/status/517483681695272960
856865;1412318286;assbot;Peer-to-peer car rentals. Unbeatable selection of cars from real people. $1M insurance. https://t.co/vWPVroAMiW
856866;1412318358;mircea_popescu;who wants a car from "Real people" ?
856867;1412318367;mircea_popescu;what's the value add, cumrag ?
856868;1412318403;decimation;I guess I pictured it as basically peopled by Inca
856869;1412318407;decimation;but I guess that's more peru
856870;1412318409;pete_dushenski_;"cigarettes in ashtray, only half smoked!"
856871;1412318411;mircea_popescu;eh what inca.
856872;1412318420;mircea_popescu;that alleged empire was what, 100k people ?
856873;1412318505;pete_dushenski_;also ozzies are sending 8 super hornets to tackle isis. canada's mighty cf-18s can't be far behind nao.
856874;1412318509;pete_dushenski_;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-03/abbott-commits-australian-fighter-jets-to-air-strikes-in-iraq.html
856875;1412318509;assbot;Abbott Commits Australian Fighter Jets to Air Strikes in Iraq - Bloomberg
856876;1412318520;mircea_popescu;lmao
856877;1412318528;decimation;a 'coalition of the willing' indeed
856878;1412318538;mircea_popescu;is this the same iraq the us just got beat out of, and had to lulzily evacuate their baghdad "embassy" ?
856879;1412318546;mircea_popescu;did i miss a crucial something here ?
856880;1412318563;mircea_popescu;it's like a retard kid who gets told off by his imagined gf, goes away, turns around and starts over
856881;1412318600;decimation;I imagine that most countries perceive the us as a 300 pound giant with the brains of a 12 year old boy
856882;1412318622;decimation;can be really dangerous if you line yourself up in his sights, but really easy to manipulate
856883;1412318627;pete_dushenski_;decimation: was 300 10 years ago, now 225.
856884;1412318647;mircea_popescu;yeah, something like that. i think they mostly perceive it as a combined fuckhole/shithole/eatery
856885;1412318653;decimation;there's no doubt that there's a gap between 'strength on paper' and 'actual strength, if actually tested'
856886;1412318665;mircea_popescu;which is kinda perverse.
856887;1412318669;pete_dushenski_;and can therefore be subdued by a lean 140 pounder.
856888;1412318684;decimation;or a 100 lb girl with the right charms
856889;1412318688;pete_dushenski_;"i know kung fu" and shit.
856890;1412318690;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski_ depends where. not for as long as stays safely behind her keyboard.
856891;1412318704;mircea_popescu;or joystick as the case may be
856892;1412318747;decimation;on the other hand, the romans spent centuries trying to conquer the middle east
856893;1412318754;decimation;why should the powers of today have it any other way
856894;1412318817;mircea_popescu;the greeks spent two years, and got all the way to indioa
856895;1412318828;mircea_popescu;i have my doubts whether the romans ever were interested in conquest.
856896;1412318840;mircea_popescu;they kept trying to smash the persian empire, which they mostly managed, more or less.
856897;1412318855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26004 @ 0.00074769 = 19.4429 BTC [+] {4}
856898;1412318877;decimation;plus allotting conquered lands to very important bureaucrats and so forth
856899;1412318885;mircea_popescu;in the middle east ?
856900;1412318934;decimation;sure, being governor over there was a stepping stone to power at times
856901;1412319006;mircea_popescu;well being a (military) governor, sure. but generally the patricians held land in latium, then in italia, then in galia n, and then finally in spain, thracia, whatever.
856902;1412319019;mircea_popescu;not really illyricum or asia minor
856903;1412319104;decimation;yeah my earlier implication about patricians holding estates in syria etc is wrong
856904;1412319340;pete_dushenski_;i'm off to the dreamobile! bon soir!
856905;1412319349;decimation;'night all
856906;1412320380;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00074108 = 9.634 BTC [-] {2}
856907;1412320746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3411 @ 0.00074693 = 2.5478 BTC [+]
856908;1412320863;RagnarDanneskjol;http://bap.ece.cmu.edu/
856909;1412320864;assbot;BAP: Binary Analysis Platform
856910;1412321518;RagnarDanneskjol;https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/479
856911;1412321519;assbot;Cryptology ePrint Archive: Report 2014/479
856912;1412321534;RagnarDanneskjol;[Even more practical secure logging: Tree-based Seekable Sequential Key Generators]
856913;1412322149;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35603 @ 0.00074814 = 26.636 BTC [+] {2}
856914;1412322210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26944 @ 0.0007485 = 20.1676 BTC [+] {2}
856915;1412322516;RagnarDanneskjol;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2408396
856916;1412322517;assbot;Bitcoin Markets by Christopher Fink, Thomas Johann :: SSRN
856917;1412322698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7067 @ 0.00074766 = 5.2837 BTC [-]
856918;1412323515;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust cazalla
856919;1412323516;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user cazalla: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014
856920;1412323622;BingoBoingo;;;rate cazalla 3 News collaborator, Bunny Rancher
856921;1412323624;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 1 to 3.
856922;1412323877;RagnarDanneskjol;Bingo - you making picks for this weekend?
856923;1412324116;RagnarDanneskjol;http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216828-rapid-fire-predicting-college-footballs-biggest-match-ups-in-week-6
856924;1412324117;assbot;Rapid-Fire Predictions for College Football's Biggest Matchups in Week 6 | Bleacher Report
856925;1412324132;RagnarDanneskjol;http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216102-good-guys-finish-first-the-hugh-freeze-story
856926;1412324133;assbot;Good Guys Finish 1st: The Hugh Freeze Story | Bleacher Report
856927;1412324242;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: I'm debating it. Probably not doing the longshot parlay again.
856928;1412324284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00074108 = 13.7841 BTC [-]
856929;1412324363;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Just going to be hard making picks since Mizzou has a bye week.
856930;1412324407;RagnarDanneskjol;huh. I am following your picks. seem to be pretty decent
856931;1412324477;BingoBoingo;Last year I had... a success rate.
856932;1412324549;RagnarDanneskjol;cool
856933;1412324624;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/1/6877355/sec-football-standings-predictions-projection-2014
856934;1412324625;assbot;Projecting the SEC's 2014 conference race using advanced stats - SBNation.com
856935;1412324665;RagnarDanneskjol;"Let me say that again. The SEC West is the best division in the country and might end up the best division of all time, and Mississippi State might have the best chance of winning it."
856936;1412324685;BingoBoingo;This year as everything has been parlays not much success. Two weeks ago I had a chance at least. Last week I made a suicide slate and attached a point about phantom mining hardware.
856937;1412324700;BingoBoingo;Mississippi State is indeed scary this year.
856938;1412324729;RagnarDanneskjol;oh yea. phantom hardware? - I missed that
856939;1412324747;RagnarDanneskjol;Oh gaw?
856940;1412324793;BingoBoingo;Yeah
856941;1412324809;RagnarDanneskjol;ok saw that
856942;1412324965;BingoBoingo;I mean last week I put Illinois over Nebraska.
856943;1412324984;RagnarDanneskjol;ahh
856944;1412325024;BingoBoingo;Mizzou scares in that after the way the SEC championship game ended last year they still have no defense against the ground game.
856945;1412325126;RagnarDanneskjol;i forget, were runs getting through the D line or is breakdown in the backfield.. or both
856946;1412325224;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Both. The Runningbacks almost always find a way around the line if they have any speed and in the backfield the people with speed to catch up to them lack the mass to take them down efficiently
856947;1412325278;RagnarDanneskjol;yea, thats a problem hard to fix
856948;1412325286;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/eye-on-the-tigers/countdown-to-camp-mizzou-linebackers/article_f078a225-8d72-52c1-9e22-ab6ac6ced060.html
856949;1412325287;assbot;Countdown to Camp: Mizzou linebackers : Sports
856950;1412325466;BingoBoingo;I'd still bet on Mizzou over the StL Rams though.
856951;1412325547;RagnarDanneskjol;Ha. Rams are a lost cause huh.
856952;1412325554;RagnarDanneskjol;Oh I see they won a game
856953;1412325666;RagnarDanneskjol;against the bucs - lel
856954;1412325716;BingoBoingo;Yeah. I can't wait until they leave
856955;1412325748;BingoBoingo;Most people I know in the area have similar feeling.
856956;1412325751;BingoBoingo;s
856957;1412325793;RagnarDanneskjol;hmm
856958;1412326128;BingoBoingo;The Rams really want a new stadium, but... hard to justify that when no one watches them.
856959;1412326280;RagnarDanneskjol;heh. lowest valued team in the league - http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/#page:4_sort:0_direction:asc_search:
856960;1412326281;assbot;The Business Of Football - Forbes
856961;1412326392;BingoBoingo;Well, considering the other two pro sports team in town... win...
856962;1412326428;RagnarDanneskjol;yea
856963;1412326477;BingoBoingo;Then there's the problem with it being miserable to watch a winning game there
856964;1412326511;RagnarDanneskjol;why's that
856965;1412326593;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/03/collaborations/
856966;1412326642;BingoBoingo;The Rams don't seem to have any people with experience running events working on the fan experience of being at the stadium
856967;1412326659;RagnarDanneskjol;i see
856968;1412326691;RagnarDanneskjol;fukin Ezra Klien. ugh
856969;1412326698;BingoBoingo;Yeah
856970;1412326724;RagnarDanneskjol;has to be one of the worst people alive
856971;1412327456;fluffypony;literally Hitler?
856972;1412327523;RagnarDanneskjol;https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/517672630317752320
856973;1412327524;assbot;KARL MARXIO BROS! http://t.co/iu0epW902z
856974;1412327527;BingoBoingo;Hitler no longer passes the alive test
856975;1412327655;fluffypony;point
856976;1412328432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.13498333 = 0.8099 BTC [+] {2}
856977;1412328920;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27283 @ 0.00074257 = 20.2595 BTC [+] {2}
856978;1412329652;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8217 @ 0.00074513 = 6.1227 BTC [+]
856979;1412330704;cazalla;;;rate BingoBoingo 3 Qntra.net's Jesse Pinkman, small ATC trade for BTC previously
856980;1412330706;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 1 to 3.
856981;1412330825;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/3/6897065/oregon-arizona-game-recap-results-2014
856982;1412330826;assbot;Arizona vs. Oregon final score: 3 things we learned from Zona's 31-24 stunner - SBNation.com
856983;1412330933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00074103 = 22.4162 BTC [-] {2}
856984;1412330984;RagnarDanneskjol;;;rate BingoBoingo 1 good handicapper - knows how to pick 'em
856985;1412330986;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
856986;1412331274;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/australian-university-start-up-school-to-accept-bitcoin/
856987;1412331521;RagnarDanneskjol;snooz
856988;1412331684;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: I'm going to have to give games a thought when I wake up. As much as Purdue sucks though... Illinois just might suck even more.
856989;1412331723;RagnarDanneskjol;ha. good deal
856990;1412331751;BingoBoingo;Illinois probably wins it, but I don't think decmal odds of 3.9 for Purdue are a bad value if you want a longshot.
856991;1412331792;RagnarDanneskjol;cool. I'm always interested to see what data informs your picks
856992;1412331948;BingoBoingo;Well, I generally look for underdogs priced too generously. As an example there is no spread or odds that would make me think of Picking Kansas over West Fucking Virginia
856993;1412331974;BingoBoingo;Not the week after they fired their coach
856994;1412331989;RagnarDanneskjol;hah. ok
856995;1412332040;BingoBoingo;Also as coole as an Ole Miss upset over Bama would be... It's getting talked up so much Bama moneyline might be the better value
856996;1412332115;BingoBoingo;!up only
856997;1412332153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62530 @ 0.0007433 = 46.4785 BTC [+] {2}
856998;1412332160;RagnarDanneskjol;yea. that ain't gonna happen
856999;1412333129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.0007481 = 5.8127 BTC [+]
857000;1412334713;punkman;http://straight.romansnitko.com/1yeardevplan.html
857001;1412334713;assbot;Straight: an opensource Bitcoin payment gateway
857002;1412334720;punkman;"Monthly YouTube reviews of each release"
857003;1412335230;RagnarDanneskjol;"Fundraiser target is 200 BTC" - better get some hot coeds, scantily clad to do those videos
857004;1412335329;RagnarDanneskjol;speaking ov http://coed.com/2014/10/01/the-60-best-natural-breasts-of-2014-for-breast-cancer-awareness-month-photos/
857005;1412335330;assbot;The 60 Best Natural Breasts of 2014 For Breast Cancer Awareness Month [PHOTOS]
857006;1412335471;kakobrekla;i see 120 breasts
857007;1412335486;punkman;I don't see any
857008;1412335499;punkman;what is this sfw-assets
857009;1412335581;RagnarDanneskjol;hah
857010;1412335633;punkman;"About me: I'm a software developer with 10 years of experience in web. Take a look at my resume" <- and he means 10 years of experience with HTML/CSS, 6 years of ruby
857011;1412335906;RagnarDanneskjol;X years experience with web (or other non-specific) is clear indicator that experience being described is bs [and prolly lying about other things too].. resume goes straight to trashbin
857012;1412336008;RagnarDanneskjol;i see this on about 85% of developer CVs in circulation
857013;1412336300;TheNewDeal;Eifgth
857014;1412336317;TheNewDeal;Eight decades of experience with web!
857015;1412336684;RagnarDanneskjol;i've actually seen shit like this - 15 years iOS development, etc. sometimes I call them up just to troll
857016;1412336698;punkman;lol
857017;1412336891;BingoBoingo;https://github.com/petertodd/bips/blob/checklocktimeverify/bip-checklocktimeverify.mediawiki#Abstract
857018;1412336892;assbot;bips/bip-checklocktimeverify.mediawiki at checklocktimeverify petertodd/bips GitHub
857019;1412336917;BingoBoingo;^soft fork
857020;1412336926;BingoBoingo;https://github.com/petertodd/bitcoin/commit/ab0f54f38e08ee1e50ff72f801680ee84d0f1bf4
857021;1412336927;assbot;Replace NOP2 with CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY ab0f54f petertodd/bitcoin GitHub
857022;1412337035;RagnarDanneskjol;not too shabby
857023;1412337327;BingoBoingo;I dunno. Do these waiting tx.nlocktime transactions just sit in the mempool for years now?
857024;1412337349;kakobrekla;that wouldnt work well
857025;1412338253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1231806 = 0.6159 BTC [-] {4}
857026;1412338750;bounce;you habitually read developer CVs?
857027;1412339111;RagnarDanneskjol;its my job
857028;1412339159;bounce;hr? recruiter?
857029;1412339169;RagnarDanneskjol;yes
857030;1412339258;bounce;twice even. how nice.
857031;1412339264;RagnarDanneskjol;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854310
857032;1412339266;assbot;Logged on 02-10-2014 00:40:23; RagnarDanneskjol: bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
857033;1412339296;bounce;bit of an unfair question there.
857034;1412339303;RagnarDanneskjol;i kno
857035;1412339320;RagnarDanneskjol;rather loaded
857036;1412339344;bounce;not the smartest way to get a useful answer
857037;1412339467;RagnarDanneskjol;guess I wasn't really looking for a useful answer. just being provocative I suppose
857038;1412339490;bounce;I'll leave you at it then
857039;1412340085;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/3r/hR/377xBtQx/eurusd-h4.png
857040;1412340140;ben_vulpes;RagnarDanneskjol: many devs respond to a few here and there, but the random sample is typically not enough cash, bizarre stacks, crazy mgmt or {google,yahoo,ms} again instead of anything interesting. a few interactions like this and the dev is poisoned against recruiters forever.
857041;1412340403;bounce;don't forget the completely dysfunctional and often insane "matching", selecting on completely irrelevant criteria, and obvious, screaming lies by the bucketload.
857042;1412340524;RagnarDanneskjol;ok. this is like having a bad experience with a front desk secretary and holding it against every secretary you ever encounter. Recruiters are just doing the work of sorting and moving candidates through the interview process. How else would you ever get another job? at some point everyone has to deal with a recruiter (or whoever acts as company recruiter/hr generalist) -otherwise st
857043;1412340525;RagnarDanneskjol;ay unemployed
857044;1412340560;RagnarDanneskjol;lies about what?
857045;1412340665;ben_vulpes;the notion that a person must go through a recruiter to get a job is utter nonsense.
857046;1412340691;RagnarDanneskjol;I think you misunderstand what a recruiter is (common misconception)
857047;1412340694;bounce;how else? by getting pulled in by someone, or by bumping into the (technically savvy) owner of the shop, something like that. the key is to talk to someone who knows about the job, not the "specialist" who doesn't know word from writer.
857048;1412340711;RagnarDanneskjol;they are often generalized as being staffing agencies
857049;1412340718;ben_vulpes;if you're growing a dev team and your devs aren't actively bringing in their friends, you're doing it entirely incorrectly.
857050;1412340743;RagnarDanneskjol;every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process
857051;1412340744;bounce;IME the staffing agencies that claim to specialise in IT recruiting are possibly worse than generic agencies. claim to know their shit then don't.
857052;1412340758;ben_vulpes; every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process << false.
857053;1412340769;RagnarDanneskjol;yea - you are getting staffing agencies confused w/ recruiters
857054;1412340779;ben_vulpes;in an engineering organization, this is an engineering function for engineering roles.
857055;1412340826;RagnarDanneskjol;so who identifies candidates?
857056;1412340849;bounce;somebody who knows about the job.
857057;1412340870;RagnarDanneskjol;so the hiring manager does recruitment - bad policy
857058;1412340870;ben_vulpes;anyone receiving emails on the "get in touch with us" inbox
857059;1412340876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37930 @ 0.00074503 = 28.259 BTC [-]
857060;1412340881;ben_vulpes;what? why?
857061;1412340888;ben_vulpes;so you can shoehorn yourself in?
857062;1412340899;RagnarDanneskjol;Oh so the company only hires candidates who happen to find their open position - bad policy
857063;1412340921;RagnarDanneskjol;guaranteed to have a weak workforce
857064;1412340946;bounce;pfft. instead of some consultancy throwing out the adverts and pouring their "special sauce" over the incoming applications?
857065;1412340950;ben_vulpes;maybe for bigcorp.
857066;1412340966;bounce;IMO that's a worse policy, since it muddles the input needlessly
857067;1412340971;RagnarDanneskjol;again - that is a staffing agency - different and I agree they are wasteful
857068;1412340971;ben_vulpes;for companies with reputations for quality, it's not nearly as guaranteed as you claim.
857069;1412340984;ben_vulpes;spamgun, anyone?
857070;1412341043;ben_vulpes;you're also ignoring the "whole team does recruiting" strategy.
857071;1412341060;RagnarDanneskjol;you understand how it makes sense to have someone dedicated to locating the best talent available is bettter than hoping talent finds you?
857072;1412341085;bounce;does it?
857073;1412341095;*;bounce refers to the google study on a related subject
857074;1412341097;ben_vulpes;i don't hope, i plan and execute.
857075;1412341125;ben_vulpes;we identify target hires as a group and then fucking hire them.
857076;1412341146;ben_vulpes;we also chew through contractors, looking for people to hire.
857077;1412341148;RagnarDanneskjol;how do you locate them? its a full time job
857078;1412341161;ben_vulpes;people go to meetups
857079;1412341166;ben_vulpes;developer nights
857080;1412341168;ben_vulpes;ux nights
857081;1412341171;ben_vulpes;design nights
857082;1412341176;ben_vulpes;we host the odd one of the above
857083;1412341182;ben_vulpes;i network my ass off
857084;1412341187;RagnarDanneskjol;so hiring managers put in a bunch of extra overtime to do recruitment
857085;1412341189;ben_vulpes;(in support of sales *and* recruitment)
857086;1412341198;RagnarDanneskjol;instead of having a professional do it
857087;1412341203;ben_vulpes;not overtime
857088;1412341216;ben_vulpes;tis a part of the job, identifying and bringing on collaborators.
857089;1412341258;ben_vulpes;maybe someday i'll outsource leadgen, but i've yet to find anyone to trust with the job because they all sound as full of shit as you.
857090;1412341286;RagnarDanneskjol;how is that?
857091;1412341287;ben_vulpes;finding people who can do sales lead gen is hard enough, how the fuck am i to trust someone whose technical competence i have no notion of to identify people with technical talent?
857092;1412341302;RagnarDanneskjol;you intervieeww them
857093;1412341327;ben_vulpes;typically the interview is aborted by pitches like yours.
857094;1412341339;RagnarDanneskjol;I'm not pitching anyone
857095;1412341351;RagnarDanneskjol;just trying to dispel misconceptions
857096;1412341357;bounce;HR can take care of the paperwork, and "managing" appointments and such. but building the team is up to the manager, not to the recruiter.
857097;1412341376;ben_vulpes;does the recruiter then interview my team as well?
857098;1412341405;Azelphur;ben_vulpes: he must be somewhat good at spotting talent, he hired me ;)
857099;1412341415;ben_vulpes;Azelphur: you stand out.
857100;1412341415;bounce;debatable *rimshot*
857101;1412341427;ben_vulpes;published libs and such
857102;1412341435;*;Azelphur shrugs
857103;1412341449;Azelphur;I didn't know putting random crap on github was standing out, but ok o.O
857104;1412341450;ben_vulpes;not really much of an accomplishment.
857105;1412341464;ben_vulpes;you're not hard to find is what i'm saying.
857106;1412341477;Azelphur;:)
857107;1412341486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00074316 = 20.5484 BTC [-] {2}
857108;1412341490;ben_vulpes;what about the first kid he trotted through here?
857109;1412341529;RagnarDanneskjol;how does a manager locate talent? i still don't understand. it is a full-time job sourcing for any given position.. doing a thourough targeted search. unless the job reqs are fairly loose.
857110;1412341571;RagnarDanneskjol;some of the jobs I place only have a few dozen qualified ppl on the planet - they take months to locate
857111;1412341608;ben_vulpes;must be why you want a fancy database of resumes and positions
857112;1412341624;RagnarDanneskjol;??
857113;1412341645;RagnarDanneskjol;i create the db of resumes
857114;1412341673;RagnarDanneskjol;takes lots of hard work
857115;1412341897;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2014#745203
857116;1412341899;assbot;Logged on 05-07-2014 12:39:02; ninjashogun: The second is a services / consulting company in the field of jobs. cf. hired.com
857117;1412341926;ben_vulpes;the defense rests, your honor.
857118;1412342178;RagnarDanneskjol;you lost me ben. not sure its productive to discuss further. I would love to have hiring managers who can do my job for me tho
857119;1412342295;thestringpuller;ben_vulpes: is a moomoohead
857120;1412342412;RagnarDanneskjol;and btw - I found Azelphur in 2012 before I'd ever heard of mpex / b-a. and do consider him a prize catch
857121;1412342414;bounce;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTYNBtUbNQ
857122;1412342414;assbot;The KLF - Justified & Ancient (All Bound...) - YouTube
857123;1412342431;Azelphur;<3
857124;1412342462;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22835 @ 0.00074244 = 16.9536 BTC [-]
857125;1412343158;pete_dushenski;;;bc,stats
857126;1412343163;gribble;Current Blocks: 323637 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 938 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 17 hours, 57 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33808436063.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.46092
857127;1412343682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45336 @ 0.00074587 = 33.8148 BTC [+] {2}
857128;1412343828;bounce;``Few people of attainments take easily to a plan of self-improvement. Some discover very early their perfection cannot endure the insult. Others find their intellectual pleasure lies in the theory, not the practice. Only a few stubborn ones will blunder on, painfully, out of the luxuriant world of their pretensions into the desert of mortification and reward.'' -- Voss, Patrick White
857129;1412344047;ben_vulpes;bounce: good book?
857130;1412344161;bounce;ran into a slightly larger quote somewhere; haven't read more than that
857131;1412344829;thickasthieves;;;ticker
857132;1412344831;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 366.19, Best ask: 367.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.75000, Last trade: 366.18, 24 hour volume: 13329.29905806, 24 hour low: 364.75, 24 hour high: 378.91, 24 hour vwap: 375.321220613
857133;1412344890;ben_vulpes;wards of 500, eh?
857134;1412344893;ben_vulpes;wars*
857135;1412345013;thickasthieves;if diff turns down, it might get worse
857136;1412345039;thickasthieves;maybe we'll test that 266 after all
857137;1412345060;ben_vulpes;to 100!
857138;1412345069;ben_vulpes;man my conference tickets are looking really cheap all of a sudden
857139;1412345085;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53150 @ 0.00074384 = 39.5351 BTC [-]
857140;1412345107;thickasthieves;maybe you win the contest
857141;1412345197;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: what's the formal rule?
857142;1412345244;thickasthieves;whomever spends the least bitcoin to pay wins
857143;1412345263;pete_dushenski;http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/europe-approves-facebooks-19-billion-purchase-of-whatsapp/
857144;1412345264;ben_vulpes;ie whoever locked their ticket in at the highest dollar price
857145;1412345328;thickasthieves;they didnt already buy it?
857146;1412345405;ben_vulpes;no you see the eu must approve it
857147;1412345495;pete_dushenski;just they must approve usd eur parity
857148;1412345519;pete_dushenski;sale was pending 19 bn eur figure too!
857149;1412345526;pete_dushenski;http://jalopnik.com/top-gear-was-just-forcibly-thrown-out-of-argentina-1642056799
857150;1412345526;assbot;Top Gear Was Just Forcibly Thrown Out Of Argentina
857151;1412345578;pete_dushenski;http://jalopnik.com/jeremy-clarkson-master-level-troll-trolls-entire-nati-1641630169 << trollz!
857152;1412345579;assbot;Jeremy Clarkson, Master-Level Troll, Trolls Entire Nation Of Argentina
857153;1412345754;ben_vulpes;lulzy indeed pete_dushenski
857154;1412346373;thestringpuller;ben_vulpes Today I learned that Python has
857155;1412346386;thestringpuller;the ability to be embedded in C programs...
857156;1412346429;thestringpuller;i've embedded in C++ applications, but never straight C.
857157;1412346532;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/4Humanity2869/status/518042051569803265 << look who's a racist nao!
857158;1412346533;assbot;Looks like /JeremyClarkson trolled Argentina: http://t.co/aWbJGURxUo That's why we love him! http://t.co/aqolBI3d1Q
857159;1412346627;thickasthieves;it's a joke no?
857160;1412346633;thickasthieves;he's races cars
857161;1412346635;thickasthieves;:)
857162;1412346639;thickasthieves;he*
857163;1412346732;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25630 @ 0.0007409 = 18.9893 BTC [-] {2}
857164;1412346740;pete_dushenski;thickasthieves: lmao
857165;1412346748;pete_dushenski;it's a joke on so many levels!
857166;1412346858;pete_dushenski;"
857167;1412346863;pete_dushenski;"US Unemployment rate falls to 5.9% as labor force participation drops to 62.7%, a new 36 year low. Record 92.6 million no longer in labor force"
857168;1412346903;ben_vulpes;but are they on the welfare rolls?
857169;1412346913;pete_dushenski;92.6 mn out of eligible, what, 200 mn?
857170;1412346983;kakobrekla;meantime, euro 1.250
857171;1412347043;pete_dushenski;no sooner did i leave eurozone than it went kaput.
857172;1412347062;pete_dushenski;no sooner did i leave nyc in 2000 than...
857173;1412347082;pete_dushenski;no sooner did i leave asia in 2002 than… sars
857174;1412347105;pete_dushenski;no sooner did i leave israel in 2000 than… intifadah
857175;1412347115;pete_dushenski;pain and suffering in my wake.
857176;1412347118;kakobrekla;pls dont go
857177;1412347146;pete_dushenski;kakobrekla: to conference?
857178;1412347168;kakobrekla;away from here i thought
857179;1412347215;pete_dushenski;o, b-a.
857180;1412347223;pete_dushenski;i guess i can stick around.
857181;1412347277;thickasthieves;good thing we are decentralized
857182;1412347333;pete_dushenski;good thing twobitidiot and seamonster are still alive. i needed a morning luulz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSF19foO8E
857183;1412347334;assbot;Bitcoin Chat LIVE w/ Ryan Selkis (TwoBitIdiot) - David Seaman Hour - YouTube
857184;1412347403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00074118 = 21.6054 BTC [+]
857185;1412347420;thickasthieves;why would anyone be interested in Selkis LIVE (or living)?
857186;1412347477;pete_dushenski;only 900 bots/pakistani boys are...
857187;1412347540;thickasthieves;fuckit i'm in
857188;1412347548;thickasthieves;cant find the chat box tho
857189;1412347607;pete_dushenski;?
857190;1412347625;thickasthieves;i thought i'd be able to "join in"
857191;1412347632;thickasthieves;ask q's or such
857192;1412347636;pete_dushenski;o lol
857193;1412347646;thickasthieves;but it only lets me "vote for your favorite moment"
857194;1412347649;thickasthieves;fukn garbage
857195;1412347657;pete_dushenski;the googs hangout was live, yt is recorded
857196;1412347665;thickasthieves;oh its over
857197;1412347671;thickasthieves;meh
857198;1412347679;pete_dushenski;Streamed live on 26 Sep 2014
857199;1412347683;thestringpuller;Why is TwoBitIdiot still a athing?
857200;1412347695;thestringpuller;pete_dushenski: needs to replace that talking head.
857201;1412347731;pete_dushenski;thestringpuller: the fucktard isn't a thing. that's why he's on seamonster's show
857202;1412347740;thickasthieves;yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned?
857203;1412347752;thestringpuller;but he has a lot of publicity? why? is he getting paid? is he making money from this publicity?
857204;1412347757;thestringpuller;like why does he exist at all?
857205;1412347764;thickasthieves;cuz he goxed gox
857206;1412347800;thestringpuller;it's like fox news for bitcoin :(
857207;1412347846;princessnell;hey gang
857208;1412347888;thickasthieves;hello
857209;1412347930;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/518050750883053568
857210;1412347931;assbot;Seeing /twobitidiot on /d_seaman https://t.co/JUQoqawB20 is pure lulz, also how you know Ryan's been dead since May: http://t.co/DDZ8kEsL5L
857211;1412347958;pete_dushenski;princessnell: howdy.
857212;1412347997;pete_dushenski;thestringpuller: seamonster can't afford ramen noodles. he ain't paying anyone to be on his derpy little show.
857213;1412348027;pete_dushenski;twobitfucktard is scraping the bottom of the barrel. he's andreas 2.0
857214;1412348050;thestringpuller;Andreas has a job though no?
857215;1412348060;thickasthieves;he has many "jobs"
857216;1412348063;thestringpuller;maybe not a valuable one but a job nevertheless
857217;1412348109;thickasthieves;neverthemore
857218;1412348583;thickasthieves;76m customer account info compromised at JPM
857219;1412348593;pete_dushenski;andreas has "jobs" like ryan does: https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/518041814994276352
857220;1412348594;assbot;I met (and liked) JR when I met him at the /hashtag/bitlicense?src=hash hearings; he should've taken me up on my offer to look at his drafts. /hashtag/halfbaked?src=hash
857221;1412348625;pete_dushenski;offering to freely opine on topics he's unqualified to opine on. and being rejected.
857222;1412348745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00074068 = 8.3697 BTC [-]
857223;1412348976;thestringpuller;i thought coinbase or something hired Andreas full time?
857224;1412348983;thestringpuller;I guess not.
857225;1412349035;pete_dushenski;he was "cto" at blockchain for a bit. then went on a radio silence week-long vacation while they got megahaxxored.
857226;1412349041;ben_vulpes;the girl just got the most mysterious robo call
857227;1412349042;pete_dushenski;so community-minded that guy.
857228;1412349060;ben_vulpes;"hi! this is sue. sorry to have disturbed you. goodbye!"
857229;1412349092;punkman;I get some robo calls that are silent then go "Goodbye!" and hangup
857230;1412349100;punkman;dat predictive dialing
857231;1412349240;thestringpuller;is there a way to be community minded without being a socialist?
857232;1412349248;punkman;(they "predict" how many calls to send out to get someone to pickup and talk to the agents)
857233;1412349267;thestringpuller;not trolling or being facetious, but being oriented on the community without giving in mindlessly to the community
857234;1412349294;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39688 @ 0.0007406 = 29.3929 BTC [-] {2}
857235;1412349436;thickasthieves;those are robocalls making lists of who answers at all
857236;1412349449;thickasthieves;thaty industry is folding over on itself
857237;1412349477;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00074053 = 13.2185 BTC [-] {2}
857238;1412349509;ben_vulpes;gotcha.
857239;1412349522;ben_vulpes;new topic! bamboo vs soy for biodiesel production?
857240;1412349535;punkman;algae!
857241;1412349637;ben_vulpes;don't you have to do abhorrent things to their genetics to get them to poop diesel? i'm just talking about rendering the grass/beans into alcohols i think.
857242;1412349773;pete_dushenski;ben_vulpes: used tires, garbage, etc.
857243;1412349830;pete_dushenski;lol o ryan, asking me: "aside from trolling and a sometimes entertaining blog what value do you add to #bitcoin? (Serious question.)"
857244;1412349848;punkman;ben_vulpes, you don't need to mess with genetics, just use them as biomass, feed into machine
857245;1412349982;thickasthieves;what was that jewish title someone said you are pete? some kinda documenter or something
857246;1412350027;bounce;for biodiesel? fish guts.
857247;1412350041;punkman;oh look they got a whole conference http://www.algalbbb.com/index.html
857248;1412350042;assbot;Elsevier - Algal Biomass, Biofuels & Bioproducts
857249;1412350094;punkman;'Studies have shown that some species of algae can produce 60% or more of their dry weight in the form of oil"
857250;1412350148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34950 @ 0.0007404 = 25.877 BTC [-] {2}
857251;1412350153;pete_dushenski;thickasthieves: "one of those numbered guys"
857252;1412350230;pete_dushenski;which, if taken as a recognition of my numeracy rather than my grandparents' ibm tats, is fairly complimentary
857253;1412350478;thickasthieves;oh i meant a different conversation
857254;1412350483;thickasthieves;i think mp called you something
857255;1412350497;thickasthieves;like not a rabbi, but some other word that meant something
857256;1412350503;thickasthieves;i know i'm being very helpful
857257;1412350534;pete_dushenski;lol
857258;1412350563;thickasthieves;it may have been in reference to how you dissect/explain things mp blogs about
857259;1412350610;pete_dushenski;;;ident pete_dushenski
857260;1412350611;gribble;Nick 'pete_dushenski', with hostmask 'pete_dushenski!~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685', is identified as user 'pete_dushenski', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
857261;1412350637;pete_dushenski;;;getrust pete_dushenski
857262;1412350638;gribble;Error: "getrust" is not a valid command.
857263;1412350643;pete_dushenski;lol
857264;1412350678;thickasthieves;tt
857265;1412350680;pete_dushenski;36131Pierre_Rochard20pete_dushensk 2014-07-23 15:35:31 2 Amoraim of b-a
857266;1412350690;pete_dushenski;;;ud amoraim
857267;1412350692;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=amoraim | trending. marlin vs. mullet Advertisement; poopsterbate · tittybong · lumpatious · bae · pussy · seagull · thug · neknominate · surfboard · sizzurp. categories.
857268;1412350713;thickasthieves;thats it!
857269;1412350717;pete_dushenski;;;google amoraim
857270;1412350718;gribble;Amoraim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amoraim - Jewish Virtual Library: ; TANNAIM AND AMORAIM - JewishEncyclopedia.com:
857271;1412350721;thickasthieves;tell 2bit thats what you are
857272;1412350736;thickasthieves;fukn steward of the culture
857273;1412350739;pete_dushenski;lolk
857274;1412350789;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/518059306068217857
857275;1412350790;assbot;Seeing /twobitidiot on /d_seaman https://t.co/JUQoqawB20 is pure lulz, also how you know Ryan's been dead since May: http://t.co/DDZ8kEsL5L
857276;1412350836;pete_dushenski;so i sayz to ethel i sayz: "What value do I add to the sun? What makes you think that anyone can "add value" to something that just… exists?" and y'know what she sayz to me? "ok, that's why you're not worth listening to. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever on any level."
857277;1412350848;pete_dushenski;can you believe that woman?
857278;1412350876;pete_dushenski;she thinks she can add value to the sun
857279;1412350885;pete_dushenski;some people i tellz ya.
857280;1412350903;thickasthieves;reality bites
857281;1412350928;thickasthieves;i add value to bitcoin by owning some
857282;1412350931;thickasthieves;so there
857283;1412350941;thickasthieves;bitcoin is backed by bagholders
857284;1412350943;pete_dushenski;well, that's how it adds value to you
857285;1412350971;punkman;;;bc,xau
857286;1412350973;gribble;1 XAU = 1195.000000000000 USD = 3.2472826087 BTC
857287;1412350975;thickasthieves;expensive value lately
857288;1412351000;mthreat;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11137879/Jeremy-Clarkson-stoned-as-Top-Gear-crew-abandon-cars-and-flee-Argentina.html
857289;1412351000;assbot;Jeremy Clarkson 'stoned' as Top Gear crew abandon cars and flee Argentina - Telegraph
857290;1412351044;pete_dushenski;mthreat: see logs ;)
857291;1412351047;mircea_popescu;lmao wtf happened there.
857292;1412351067;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: clarkson "trolled" argentinians about the falklands wars
857293;1412351077;mircea_popescu;aaaa hahhhaha
857294;1412351087;mircea_popescu;win.
857295;1412351091;pete_dushenski;had a license plate on his car that read "H982 FLK" or some such.
857296;1412351099;mircea_popescu;possibly best troll ever.
857297;1412351107;mircea_popescu;so who is this guy ?
857298;1412351116;pete_dushenski;host of a tv show about cars.
857299;1412351133;pete_dushenski;on bbc. a journalist with a sense of humour who also knows how to work a camera
857300;1412351135;mircea_popescu;sorta like that cook guy, different color scheme ?
857301;1412351138;thickasthieves;a "racist"
857302;1412351145;mircea_popescu;obnoxious knowitall sorta talkhead ?
857303;1412351158;pete_dushenski;nah, just a king troll.
857304;1412351160;thickasthieves;no just a guy who likes fast cars
857305;1412351185;thickasthieves;or has he trolled in the past too?
857306;1412351186;mthreat;"He added that the numbers 646 on James May's Lotus could be taken as a reference to the 649 Argentinian casualties."
857307;1412351194;mthreat;^ that is pretty weak
857308;1412351200;pete_dushenski;;;google jeremy clarkson trolls mexico
857309;1412351201;gribble;Jeremy Clarkson, Master-Level Troll, Trolls Entire Nation Of Argentina: ; Actress Wants Top Gear Off The Air Over 'Racist' Joke - Jalopnik: ; Jeremy Clarkson lays into British as Twitter trolls mock death of his (1 more message)
857310;1412351225;mthreat;they did it in Alabama too. They wrote "Hillary for President", "NASCAR Sucks", and "Man-love rules" on their cars
857311;1412351235;mthreat;and they supposedly got stoned by alabamans
857312;1412351253;mthreat;Personally I think it's all staged, just as the Tesla battery dying incident was staged
857313;1412351256;pete_dushenski;mthreat: lmao so classic.
857314;1412351267;mthreat;but the show is still great to watch, for entertainment
857315;1412351416;pete_dushenski;so turns out the size of teh eligible us labour force is ~243 mn as of 2012
857316;1412351428;mircea_popescu;sounds about right.
857317;1412351439;pete_dushenski;;;calc 92.6/143
857318;1412351440;gribble;0.647552447552
857319;1412351441;mircea_popescu;and total employees is what, 160mn, if excluding govt 72 mn ?
857320;1412351467;pete_dushenski;and you have 35.25% unemployment
857321;1412351501;pete_dushenski;92.6 mn "not in labour force" atm
857322;1412351511;mircea_popescu;https://es-es.facebook.com/fundaciontrilema <<
857323;1412351533;mircea_popescu;make thing infringing on mp's trademark. have mp notice you in google. mp files complaint with fb, yest. page suspended, today.
857324;1412351535;mircea_popescu;a well.
857325;1412351754;pete_dushenski;"Clarkson, 54, was called before BBC bosses this week after The Mirror newspaper reported he was heard using the word "nigger" as he recited an old version of the rhyme Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe to choose between cars in filming two years ago."
857326;1412351762;thickasthieves;not in labor force includes retirees, disabled, toddlers?
857327;1412351779;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves not eligible ? yes.
857328;1412351810;pete_dushenski;"The furore comes just days after Top Gear producers apologised for a "light-hearted" joke by Clarkson during filming in Myanmar and Thailand, in which he referred to a "slope" on a bridge as an Asian man crossed a makeshift structure built by the presenters."
857329;1412351824;mircea_popescu;i dun get it ?
857330;1412351848;pete_dushenski;lol ya me neither.
857331;1412351853;thickasthieves;slope is like nigger for chinks
857332;1412351856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00074019 = 12.6943 BTC [-]
857333;1412351860;pete_dushenski;who knew?
857334;1412351865;mircea_popescu;wait srsly ?!
857335;1412351868;thickasthieves;ya
857336;1412351870;mircea_popescu;since when ?
857337;1412351874;thickasthieves;sloped eyes or something
857338;1412351876;thickasthieves;i dunno
857339;1412351877;*;mircea_popescu feels totally out of the loop
857340;1412351878;thickasthieves;it's a thing
857341;1412351923;thickasthieves;Clarkson is a student of racist craft i guess
857342;1412351924;mircea_popescu;dude i don't spend enough time with hicks, trolls and angry ppl.
857343;1412351949;thickasthieves;;;ud slope
857344;1412351950;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slope | Vietnam-era charlie. Any asian resembeling one of the 'reds'.
857345;1412351978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11965490 BTC to 15`435 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
857346;1412351988;mircea_popescu;i didn't know "spook" was nigger until i saw that hopkins film, either.
857347;1412351990;thickasthieves;"It is an acronym for Silly Little Opium Peddling Easterner. "
857348;1412351991;thickasthieves;lol
857349;1412352001;pete_dushenski;lmao!
857350;1412352010;mircea_popescu;and everyone's so fucking self-important about it, you know ? necessarily you musta known whatever retarded subtext they're familiar with
857351;1412352029;mircea_popescu;because you definitely care as much as they do!!! because you must, because otherwise are you implying they're fucking idiots ?!?
857352;1412352039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 0.31049676 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 27 satoshi per share
857353;1412352067;thickasthieves;probly more fun to make up racist names than learn them anyway
857354;1412352080;mircea_popescu;yeah, you hoarg
857355;1412352095;mircea_popescu;it's better cause you don't even need to define them, just feed them off the op's insecurities.
857356;1412352102;mircea_popescu;"it just means someone like you"
857357;1412352162;pete_dushenski;"Daughter of Hong Kong leader thanks "taxpayers" for diamonds on Facebook"
857358;1412352170;pete_dushenski;"The necklace on my profile pic is not a dog collar, silly!!!" she said. "This is actually a beautiful necklace bought at Lane Crawford (yes - funded by all you HK taxpayers!! So are all my beautiful shoes and dresses and clutches!! Thank you so much!!!!)".
857359;1412352170;pete_dushenski;Chai Yan hit out at those taunting her saying, "Actually maybe I shouldn't say 'all you'- since most of you here are probably unemployed hence all this time obsessed with bombarding me with messages". She later said, "It's ok, your mother still loves you".
857360;1412352179;pete_dushenski;ok that's good shit right there
857361;1412352193;mircea_popescu;not bad. sex tape ?
857362;1412352199;thickasthieves;nice
857363;1412352222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 2.06919702 BTC to 29`438 shares, 7029 satoshi per share
857364;1412352225;thickasthieves;sex tape stars need a racist name
857365;1412352277;mircea_popescu;shplokes
857366;1412352297;pete_dushenski;slope yan leung.
857367;1412352742;mircea_popescu;Film crew reportedly told officers at the first checkpoint they reached after passing through Tolhuin: "We're leaving the cars, we don't want more problems. Burn them if you want but we're getting out of here."
857368;1412352742;mircea_popescu;An Argentinian technician hired for the Top Gear shoot is said to have been injured after a stone thrown by one of the demonstrators hit him in the face.
857369;1412352749;mircea_popescu;i don't get this pussy bs. why not just open fire ?
857370;1412352762;mircea_popescu;what are the veterans going to do, bomb you ?
857371;1412352782;mthreat;here are pics from an Argentine publication:
857372;1412352783;mthreat;http://www.infobae.com/2014/10/03/1599200-la-bbc-provoca-un-escandalo-las-islas-malvinas-argentina
857373;1412352783;assbot;La BBC provoca un escndalo por las Islas Malvinas en Argentina | Guerra de Malvinas, Malvinas, Islas Malvinas, BBC, Argentina, Bariloche - Amrica
857374;1412352791;mthreat;pics of the stoned cars, broken windows
857375;1412352810;mthreat;that Lotus is classic. I guess they all are but the Lotus is the best ;)
857376;1412352819;mircea_popescu;i wonder how much the k troop paid for this anyway
857377;1412352857;mircea_popescu;mthreat so i don't get it... where is the damage ?
857378;1412352862;mircea_popescu;they just look like dirt racers.
857379;1412352882;mthreat;there are some broken windows at least
857380;1412352893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00074016 = 0.6499 BTC [-] {2}
857381;1412352899;mthreat;dents from rocks may be hard to see in the pics
857382;1412352941;mircea_popescu;;;ud blighter
857383;1412352942;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blighter | Perhaps the word is related to "blight", a plant disease that ruins potatoes (as a " blighter" tends to ruin things in which he's involved). The word appears to be ...
857384;1412352944;pete_dushenski;mthreat: ya that lotus is lovely. not that i'd kick the 928 out of bed either, esp. with that plate.
857385;1412352950;mircea_popescu;mthreat yeah but i mean... that's what dirt racing does anyway
857386;1412353116;pete_dushenski;speaking of slang: http://www.portenospanish.com/word/6/malco
857387;1412353118;assbot;What is Malco in English? - Porteo Spanish
857388;1412353153;pete_dushenski;this seems to describe those "trolled" by clarkson
857389;1412353259;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51962 @ 0.00074109 = 38.5085 BTC [+] {2}
857390;1412353442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074421 = 7.4421 BTC [+]
857391;1412353500;mthreat;went karting here wednesday, and have the bruises to prove it :)
857392;1412354498;mircea_popescu;;;later tell nubbins` http://posters.lardbucket.org/ is this the sorriest thing you ever saw or what
857393;1412354499;assbot;posters.lardbucket.org
857394;1412354499;gribble;The operation succeeded.
857395;1412354564;thickasthieves;;;ticker
857396;1412354565;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 361.41, Best ask: 362.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.58000, Last trade: 361.41, 24 hour volume: 15050.27264188, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.85, 24 hour vwap: 375.330137741
857397;1412354580;los_pantalones;thickasthieves here come your 360's
857398;1412354587;thickasthieves;my body is ready
857399;1412354648;thickasthieves;only now i thnk 360 is too expensive
857400;1412354652;los_pantalones;hahahaha
857401;1412354653;los_pantalones;what?
857402;1412354826;kakobrekla;a round 266 sounds more like it
857403;1412355255;mircea_popescu;lol
857404;1412355538;mircea_popescu;this eulora game engine thing is the hardest thing i ever fcking did.
857405;1412355558;mircea_popescu;it'd harder than mpex. this shit where i write the loot functions... god fucking help me i've never seen a more complex problem.
857406;1412355605;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 58(Y):42(N) by coin, 48(Y):52(N) by weight. Total bet: 57.66946193 BTC. Current weight: 17,804.
857407;1412355860;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Do tell. I've always wondered how they worked.
857408;1412355873;mircea_popescu;i am never going to tell.
857409;1412355883;bounce;huh. bcoinnews is serving up a sack of html as text/plain. no wonder it doesn't render.
857410;1412355899;mircea_popescu;this is the reason the game's even worth playing in the first place. the frigging loot functions.
857411;1412355904;bounce;int winnar() { return 4; } // ze loot
857412;1412355926;mircea_popescu;eulora is not an eyecandy delivery device like every other mmorpg out there, competing in a saturated market without a bottom.
857413;1412355938;mircea_popescu;eulora is a math delivery device.
857414;1412355960;mircea_popescu;and in point of fact people love nothing more than math. that's the only thing they'll dedicate their lives to.
857415;1412355990;mircea_popescu;just as long as they don't have to interact with it abstractly, of course.
857416;1412356001;mircea_popescu;there's nothing people hate more than abstraction.
857417;1412356025;thickasthieves;unless ur merican
857418;1412356028;mircea_popescu;nope.
857419;1412356045;thickasthieves;doesnt meta count as abstraction?
857420;1412356064;thickasthieves;our only industry is promoting industry
857421;1412356095;thickasthieves;nothing costs what it costs
857422;1412356097;mats_cd03;slope refers to the forehead, i belieb
857423;1412356105;mats_cd03;slant referring to the eyes
857424;1412356155;mats_cd03;then there's other good stuff, like zipperhead and gook
857425;1412356196;bounce;you're trying to prove that chinks are like totally math-y?
857426;1412356254;mats_cd03;zipperhead hailing from 'nam, i think, and as seen in American movies like Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, and Gran Torino
857427;1412356449;mats_cd03;http://www.rsdb.org/race/asians some good ones ive never heard
857428;1412356450;assbot;The Racial Slur Database
857429;1412356457;ben_vulpes;;;ud weather eye
857430;1412356458;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weather+eye | weather bug · weather buggin · weather chatting · weathercoat · Weathercock · weathercock logic · weather.com ... weather eye isn't defined. Can you define it?
857431;1412356462;ben_vulpes;dafuq?
857432;1412356557;thickasthieves;weathercock logic?\
857433;1412356583;thickasthieves;oh
857434;1412357023;mats_cd03;i watched a man get savaged outside of a bar last night by a well dressed man
857435;1412357028;mats_cd03;i thought of mp
857436;1412357180;Dimsler;devolution of society
857437;1412357183;Dimsler;they should have just had a duel
857438;1412357241;mats_cd03;i'm told by a reverser i trust that windows 10 is boring from an internal perspective
857439;1412357261;Dimsler;must make a microsoft account to use
857440;1412357268;mats_cd03;no major changes to subsystems, no Windows 8 exploits that he had were patched, nor any of his tricks for bypassing SMEP, SMAP, kernel safe unlinking, low integrity processes, leaking memory/pointers, locking memory without SeLockMemoryPrivilege, leaking PFNs for VAs, changing page protections through non-standard APIs, etc
857441;1412357273;thickasthieves;boring from all perspectives
857442;1412357320;mats_cd03;no fundamental changes to userland libraries, heap implementation in ntdll, bypassuac technique still works,
857443;1412357328;thickasthieves;soon we'll have FREE Windows USBs in the mail
857444;1412357407;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00074655 = 16.2001 BTC [+] {2}
857445;1412357560;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 why of me?!
857446;1412357589;Dimsler;maybe he thinks you're a savage in a suit?
857447;1412357620;mats_cd03;and internal MSFT rumors suggest that the skip from windows 9 to 10 was due to developers parsing os version strings of 'windows 95/98' badly, e.g. testing for just 'windows 9' in the substring
857448;1412357621;mircea_popescu;hey, i've not killed anyone in at least fifteen years.
857449;1412357642;Dimsler;can't spell manslaughter without laughter
857450;1412357643;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 ahahaha that'd be the lol of all time.
857451;1412357650;mircea_popescu;man's laughter.
857452;1412357713;mats_cd03;mircea_popescu: well, you did use the phrase 'a man being savaged', and well, being a gangster in your youth. plus, the only images i've seen of you are in suits
857453;1412357738;mircea_popescu;savaged, of course, means this speciffic hunting technique where the preditor opens the abdominal cavity of the prey
857454;1412357752;mats_cd03;i felt strangely detached from the spectacle of it.
857455;1412357763;mats_cd03;like, hm, this is happening right now. i'm watching a man die.
857456;1412357768;mircea_popescu;like the african dogs do
857457;1412357773;mats_cd03;and none of the other clueless chicken heads have any idea what they're seeing.
857458;1412357813;thickasthieves;guys, stop killing people
857459;1412357836;xanthyos;hi
857460;1412357890;thickasthieves;;;bcstats
857461;1412357891;gribble;Current Blocks: 323667 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34013893471.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.86816
857462;1412357896;mircea_popescu;killing people is wrong mkay
857463;1412357898;thickasthieves;rutroh
857464;1412357915;Dimsler;just a little
857465;1412357929;mircea_popescu;whatever, we do what we want.
857466;1412357932;mircea_popescu;we don't even go to skool
857467;1412357934;thickasthieves;time to switch miners to ATC
857468;1412357937;thickasthieves;BTC is dead
857469;1412357952;mircea_popescu;it's not dead until we find a fat lady that can sing.
857470;1412357979;bounce;there's at least two recruiters floating around here, ought to be able to make 'emselves useful, no?
857471;1412357991;thickasthieves;mp here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvc1yzohPXI
857472;1412357992;assbot;Fat Lady Sings Katy Perry ET!!! - YouTube
857473;1412358005;kakobrekla;now we can +m
857474;1412358018;Dimsler;yey
857475;1412358025;Dimsler;or +i
857476;1412358052;thickasthieves;fat lady haz tongue piercing too, for ur plezur
857477;1412358058;mircea_popescu;no dude she's gotta sing wagner
857478;1412358070;bounce;in a helicopter
857479;1412358074;mircea_popescu;gotterdammerung, something.
857480;1412358099;Dimsler;does she not have any teeth?
857481;1412358108;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igAWgaW8eq4 << this thing.
857482;1412358108;assbot;Gtterdmmerung-Trauermarsch, Richard Wagner, Stockholm Ring, Gregor Bhl conductor - YouTube
857483;1412358130;thickasthieves;dimsler, theyd just get in the way
857484;1412358139;Dimsler;oh she eats like a duck?
857485;1412358141;Dimsler;makes sense
857486;1412358150;mircea_popescu;ducks have teeth on their bills
857487;1412358172;thickasthieves;she eats like a snake
857488;1412358173;Dimsler;incisors
857489;1412358182;Dimsler;those aren't to chew
857490;1412358197;xanthyos;homer eats like a duck http://babysimpson.co.uk/gallery/frames/8/4f19/136.jpg
857491;1412358225;mircea_popescu;more to filter yeah
857492;1412358232;thickasthieves;looks like they have teeth on the tongue too
857493;1412358255;thickasthieves;nice duck http://bcibcrypto.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/cid_12fc099866e3453e97a77b0ca943d5a4colourful.jpg
857494;1412358256;Dimsler;fucking germanic operahs
857495;1412358415;Dimsler;er compositions
857496;1412358555;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 60.66946193 BTC. Current weight: 17,721.
857497;1412358585;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
857498;1412358586;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.83, Best ask: 363.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 363.37, 24 hour volume: 15326.10273498, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.85, 24 hour vwap: 375.330137741
857499;1412358593;mircea_popescu;it's so not happening lol
857500;1412358634;Dimsler;the bid walls just keep getting taken out
857501;1412358669;Dimsler;2600 in coins to sell to $350
857502;1412358685;Dimsler;woop
857503;1412358687;Dimsler;1400coins
857504;1412358691;Dimsler;heh
857505;1412358735;kakobrekla;where are the leechers?
857506;1412358740;Dimsler;lol
857507;1412358743;mircea_popescu;61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight << lulziest part
857508;1412358757;Dimsler;if i had more cash on bitstamp
857509;1412358770;kakobrekla;if i had any cash!
857510;1412358785;Dimsler;would just leave a roving order hanging
857511;1412358862;kakobrekla;at least euro is also worthless
857512;1412359090;BingoBoingo; yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? << As opposed to...
857513;1412359108;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/25/9q/1Xox0ZQS/fishes.png
857514;1412359114;mircea_popescu; at least euro is also worthless << lol keep a stiff upper lip!
857515;1412359154;mircea_popescu;bwahahaha garr the honest person ?
857516;1412359171;mircea_popescu;is this the guy who lied about shil bidding on his own "auction" then being proven to have lied ?
857517;1412359178;kakobrekla;correct.
857518;1412359210;mircea_popescu;he's strategically not in the wot either, is he ?
857519;1412359220;kakobrekla;he is but who cares
857520;1412359231;kakobrekla;;;getturst kakobrekla garr255
857521;1412359231;mircea_popescu;well i do
857522;1412359231;gribble;Error: "getturst" is not a valid command.
857523;1412359237;kakobrekla;thrust !
857524;1412359240;kakobrekla;we need it NAO!
857525;1412359241;mircea_popescu;getturdst ?
857526;1412359248;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust kakobrekla garr255
857527;1412359248;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user garr255: Level 1: -5, Level 2: -2 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=garr255 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=garr255 | Rated since: Sat Jun 16 15:01:31 2012
857528;1412359289;kakobrekla;o look, i was the first to negrate him
857529;1412359295;kakobrekla;bak in 2013
857530;1412359315;mircea_popescu;;;rate garr255 -1 GLBSE scammer, poster child for all the lying & fraudulent behaviour that association would promise.
857531;1412359317;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user garr255 has been recorded.
857532;1412359605;kakobrekla;but but nefario still owes him 100btc!
857533;1412359653;kakobrekla;(i suspekt its made up thing)
857534;1412359708;mircea_popescu;the scammer train : all scammers who stil believe can hide in plain sight can conveniently claim that a well known scammer owes them.
857535;1412359726;mircea_popescu;this is what goat claimed re pirate, the whole clutch of them re nefario etc.
857536;1412359747;kakobrekla;yea, dead horse wont fight back
857537;1412359778;mircea_popescu;mroeover, you know how to generate infinite moneyz ?
857538;1412359786;mircea_popescu;by substracting infinite moneyz from negative value of moneyz.
857539;1412359802;mircea_popescu;also known as the "full faith and credit of the united states government" scam.
857540;1412359810;kakobrekla;hehe
857541;1412360205;xanthyos;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZeomwPriDQ
857542;1412360205;assbot;Chapel Perilous - Along the Way to the Mystery - YouTube
857543;1412360824;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00074416 = 29.3943 BTC [-] {2}
857544;1412361051;thickasthieves;bingoboingo, centered, cuz most displays are wide these days
857545;1412361752;mats_cd03;;;ticker
857546;1412361753;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.04, Best ask: 363.91, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 362.03, 24 hour volume: 15899.40795613, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.78, 24 hour vwap: 375.226857363
857547;1412362162;mats_cd03;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrs0vgRQB5Q korean rapper. not bad.
857548;1412362162;assbot;Video Dumbfounded - Bubba Kush [Music Video].flv - YouTube
857549;1412362317;mats_cd03;http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/10/03/jessica-williams-continues-her-war-against-catcalls-on-the-daily-show
857550;1412362317;assbot;Jessica Williams Continues Her War Against Catcalls on ‘The Daily Show’ - Speakeasy - WSJ
857551;1412362897;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58550 @ 0.00074149 = 43.4142 BTC [-] {3}
857552;1412364195;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: What? People with giant wide displays maximize windows to read text?
857553;1412364699;thickasthieves;i guess i'm just in the minority
857554;1412364924;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: Well the design is just to get the thing started. I just don't know of any graceful way to handle the problem of really big monitors.
857555;1412365057;thickasthieves;center the page
857556;1412365094;thickasthieves;doesnt even require css ;)
857557;1412365110;punkman;ol' trusty
857558;1412365163;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: But that leaves big ole empty wings
857559;1412365224;bounce;forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch.
857560;1412365225;thickasthieves;well you prefer your content to be in the wing?
857561;1412365254;thickasthieves;or both wings on one side?
857562;1412365267;thickasthieves;and*
857563;1412365290;bounce;you should do popups complaining that the content is optimised for sane widths and please upgrade your browser and/or your resolution
857564;1412365419;BingoBoingo;I'll raise the issue with cazalla
857565;1412365452;BingoBoingo;bounce may be on to something
857566;1412365496;thickasthieves;yes and all browsers should be magical automatic display handlers and websites only databases
857567;1412365554;BingoBoingo;Well actually yes browsers should handle the display rather than the site.
857568;1412365575;bounce;that was the idea, originally. then web"design" happened.
857569;1412365577;thickasthieves;and all people should be the same
857570;1412365578;BingoBoingo;Websites shouldn't default to violently raping user hardware
857571;1412365592;thickasthieves;and all emotion removed from all things
857572;1412365597;thickasthieves;so we can math our lives away
857573;1412365598;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: No, people get to dress up the websites however the wish
857574;1412365600;bounce;that is the current assumption: hipster with tablet
857575;1412365635;BingoBoingo;Plenty of ways to do custom CSS with pink and kittens and myspace
857576;1412365635;thickasthieves;people dont want to dress up websites
857577;1412365638;bounce;in fact, it rarely happens but could provide multiple layouts for the onlooker to choose
857578;1412365696;thickasthieves;i understand that a spec for website data would be convenient and provide ease and cleanliness from one perspective
857579;1412365704;bounce;this about that giant screenshot with two panes on either side and lots of nothing inbetween?
857580;1412365707;thickasthieves;it's just an impossible ideal for one paradigm
857581;1412365767;thickasthieves;all computers should use the same hw spec and everyone should program in the same language and use the same db sesign too
857582;1412365769;bounce;meh. most often all sorts of unwarranted assumptions creep in; web"design" does tent to focus on one thing and massively over-engineers with gratuitous js-reinvention of basic stuff to make it look "nicer"
857583;1412365796;BingoBoingo;I don't think the current super mininum style is going to be a permanent feature on qntra, but... page load times are a thing. Got to plan for people accessing the internet using dialup through a payphone.
857584;1412365803;thickasthieves;i'm not saying many websites arent ridiculous
857585;1412365812;thickasthieves;i'm saying both extremes are
857586;1412365817;*;punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts
857587;1412365869;bounce;in this case it might be more useful to not stick one pane on the right and another on the left hand side, but position them relative to each other instead
857588;1412365920;bounce;or let the browser put them next or below each other, depending on actual window width.
857589;1412365970;thickasthieves;the problem is you cant get browsers to fall in line to that kinda thing
857590;1412365986;thickasthieves;ie microshit everything displaying diff
857591;1412366012;bounce;you'd have to release the notion of getting an identical picture everywhere. you're not serving up "an experience" or "a picture" or whatever, you're serving up content.
857592;1412366034;thickasthieves;most people arent though
857593;1412366042;thickasthieves;they are serving up advertising
857594;1412366045;thickasthieves;products
857595;1412366046;thickasthieves;etc
857596;1412366055;thickasthieves;brands
857597;1412366055;bounce;though I'd be perfectly willing to ignore any and all redmond products regardless of reported usage percentages, they just don't play well with others
857598;1412366360;thickasthieves;btce price is $14 below others
857599;1412366470;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all
857600;1412366476;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 361.53, vol: 17577.11989493 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 348.5, vol: 8496.01598 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 362.2, vol: 18786.5756587 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.15, vol: 40.38435468 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 367.965036, vol: 23053.71410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.0, vol: 20.27 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 368.311266445, vol: 79.21147285 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
857601;1412366562;Duffer1;business as usual
857602;1412366758;BingoBoingo;Seems so. Buterin's waterfall keeps a churning
857603;1412366933;mats_cd03;https://secupwn.github.io/Android-IMSI-Catcher-Detector
857604;1412366984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00074212 = 8.5344 BTC [+]
857605;1412367566;BingoBoingo;!up william1
857606;1412367568;BingoBoingo;http://www.globalresearch.ca/pharmaceutical-giant-glaxosmithkline-accidentally-released-45-liters-of-concentrated-live-polio-virus-in-the-environment/5405801
857607;1412367568;assbot;Pharmaceutical Giant GlaxoSmithKline “Accidentally” Released 45 Liters of Concentrated Live Polio Virus in the Environment | Global Research
857608;1412367593;william1;Well thats an impressive feat
857609;1412367684;thickasthieves;mmm polio
857610;1412367691;jurov;they were trying to eradicate these "various orthodox protestant communities"
857611;1412367736;william1;Well at least their hearts were in the right place
857612;1412367850;dignork;mats_cd03: kosher presentation on why IMSI-catcher is a wrong answer: http://www.slideshare.net/grugq/mobile-opsec
857613;1412367851;assbot;Click and Dragger: Denial and Deception on Android mobile
857614;1412367899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 297 @ 0.006 = 1.782 BTC [-] {4}
857615;1412367905;mats_cd03;seen it
857616;1412367926;mats_cd03;his presentations on opsec are always excellent
857617;1412367933;TheNewDeal;;;ticker
857618;1412367934;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 360.79, Best ask: 361.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 361.82, 24 hour volume: 17795.06905467, 24 hour low: 357.0, 24 hour high: 378.78, 24 hour vwap: 374.816987872
857619;1412368082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00074212 = 16.9203 BTC [+]
857620;1412368123;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-asic-manufacturer-bfl/
857621;1412368551;mats_cd03;an excellent presentation on why blackphone et. al is stupid.
857622;1412368570;jurov;http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/09/windows-10-command-prompt-finally-gets-dragged-into-the-21st-century/
857623;1412368571;assbot;Windows 10 command prompt finally gets dragged into the 21st century | Ars Technica
857624;1412368571;william1;Wasn't it torn apart within 15 minutes of it being revealed?
857625;1412368720;BingoBoingo;jurov: Wait, WindowsX has a clicky graphical dialogue for... Setting command line properties?
857626;1412368734;*;jurov chuckles
857627;1412369127;mats_cd03;ars writer is so enthused
857628;1412369226;bounce;fanbois will be fanbois. people fawning over powershell like it's the bestest thing evar and not, oh, twenty years late to the party? bit of a giveaway.
857629;1412369245;jurov;and transparent background!!1
857630;1412369271;xanthyos;presumed intent is FUCKED
857631;1412369402;william1;The US gov is generally fucked, no new information there
857632;1412371431;asciilifeform;https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/03/killing-americans-white-house-lawn-wrong
857633;1412371431;assbot;Killing Americans on the White House Lawn Is Wrong - The Intercept
857634;1412371434;asciilifeform;^ mega-lol
857635;1412371443;*;asciilifeform was actually surprised there wasn't a minefield
857636;1412371709;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/star-citizen-new-ships/
857637;1412372960;cazalla;thickasthieves: yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? <<< just turn your head a little to the left, fixed
857638;1412373068;cazalla;i guess it's something to keep in mind when/if it comes time to redesign the site but for time being, i think it's acceptable
857639;1412373328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00074212 = 10.4268 BTC [+]
857640;1412373946;jurov;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg9069908#msg9069908 r/buttcoin follows *this* ? that's helluva dedication
857641;1412373946;assbot;Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
857642;1412374027;jurov;9024 pages *gasp*
857643;1412374223;thickasthieves;http://www.coindesk.com/russia-proposes-fines-bitcoin/
857644;1412374224;assbot;Russia Proposes Monetary Penalties for Bitcoin Use and Promotion
857645;1412374225;jurov;http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/257/8/8/angel_whale_by_livanvellnight-d6m84d2.jpg (* ^ *)
857646;1412374711;thickasthieves;lol angel whale
857647;1412374777;kakobrekla;angel whale sleeps with the fishes now
857648;1412374975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00074103 = 8.6701 BTC [-]
857649;1412375959;mircea_popescu; forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch. << bunch of military studies over the years, 60 to 80 in anyu case.
857650;1412376230;mircea_popescu;*: punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts <<< now that was a riot
857651;1412376416;mircea_popescu;"It is NOT impossible to have such an enormous (gigantic) ginormous rise in prices - eg from $300 to $10k; however, the lower that BTC prices go, the more difficult it becomes to imagine such an upward BTC price explosion.... .. such as 30x..."
857652;1412376430;mircea_popescu;jurov you will notice that a) all this was injected into the conversation via bitbet and b) fucktards, srsly.
857653;1412376444;mircea_popescu;it's exactl;y backwards, the smaller the base, the easier high percentiles are.
857654;1412376510;thickasthieves;yep
857655;1412376524;thickasthieves;the lower we go the more faith i have in a bubble
857656;1412376674;thickasthieves;;;ticker --market all
857657;1412376686;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 357.57, vol: 20022.97553918 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 343.088, vol: 9410.68472 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 359.49, vol: 20531.0586212 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.0, vol: 36.33602895 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 365.241348, vol: 24566.86020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.0, vol: 20.27 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 365.438, vol: 86.35057784 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
857658;1412377050;mircea_popescu;Abuses under Obiang have included "unlawful killings by security forces; government-sanctioned kidnappings; systematic torture of prisoners and detainees by security forces; life threatening conditions in prisons and detention facilities; impunity; arbitrary arrest, detention, and incommunicado detention."
857659;1412377059;mircea_popescu;dude, check it out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teodoro_Obiang_Nguema_Mbasogo_with_Obamas.jpg
857660;1412377066;mircea_popescu;united states of ecuatorial guineea!
857661;1412377495;thickasthieves;get ready for a barrage of 350 bets
857662;1412377733;danielpbarron;seems to be a very large number of transactions happening at the moment, from my full node's point of view
857663;1412377766;thickasthieves;people panic selling?
857664;1412377787;thickasthieves;bitcoin hacked
857665;1412377788;danielpbarron;or excitement buying -- or both
857666;1412377895;mircea_popescu;there are bunches of txn firing off yes
857667;1412378062;thickasthieves;it's the diff drop armageddon
857668;1412378222;mircea_popescu;jurov http://redditmetrics.com/r/trilema << lol
857669;1412378513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15395 @ 0.00074305 = 11.4393 BTC [+] {2}
857670;1412378635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HASH] 587 @ 0.00226393 = 1.3289 BTC [+] {8}
857671;1412380286;mod6;;;bc,stats
857672;1412380288;gribble;Current Blocks: 323707 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 868 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34120792594.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.55976
857673;1412380384;mod6;;;rewardhalf
857674;1412380384;gribble;Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
857675;1412380397;mod6;;;halfreward
857676;1412380398;gribble;Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Aug 2 16:43:16 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
857677;1412380595;thickasthieves;thatll be fun
857678;1412380657;mod6;been a long time since i looked at that. saw we're under 100k blocks to go
857679;1412381170;mircea_popescu;coupla years
857680;1412381505;mircea_popescu;%p
857681;1412381507;atcbot;>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 120.95 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.36 TH/s
857682;1412381509;mircea_popescu;%d
857683;1412381511;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 303602.34 in 587 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.84
857684;1412381657;mod6;%ob
857685;1412381658;atcbot;7k@266 100k@255 15k@200 | 75k@180 100k@175 7k@170
857686;1412381690;mod6;%v
857687;1412381691;atcbot;[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 180 Ask: 200 Last Price: 266 30d-Vol: 242k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 192
857688;1412382159;mircea_popescu;holding steady huh
857689;1412382162;mircea_popescu;!up parfait
857690;1412382165;mircea_popescu;!up hodl
857691;1412382177;mod6;looks like it.
857692;1412382223;mod6;vol seems decent.
857693;1412382356;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.00074307 = 5.0001 BTC [+]
857694;1412382713;mircea_popescu;;;seen pankkake
857695;1412382713;gribble;pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-brokers-trade-millions-without-exchange/
857696;1412383027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00074264 = 14.9271 BTC [-]
857697;1412383346;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-september-2014-statement/
857698;1412383515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30596 @ 0.00074386 = 22.7591 BTC [+] {2}
857699;1412383576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00074264 = 2.5992 BTC [-]
857700;1412383599;*;asciilifeform changed day jobs today. it was time-consuming.
857701;1412383637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 130 @ 0.1387386 = 18.036 BTC [+] {11}
857702;1412383726;mod6;$vwap s.mpoe
857703;1412383726;empyex;mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00074338 high: 0.00074856 low: 0.00073961 volume: 1471659 btc: 1093.99743348 7 day: average: 0.000747 high: 0.0007539 low: 0.00073961 volume: 6513289 btc: 4865.44551211 30 day: average: 0.00074366 high: 0.00085114 low: 0.00059659 volume: 18709079 btc: 13913.23754162
857704;1412383764;RagnarDanneskjol;whats your new gig ascii?
857705;1412383771;asciilifeform;RagnarDanneskjol: consulting
857706;1412383821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.15067602 = 6.027 BTC [+] {19}
857707;1412383823;RagnarDanneskjol;cool
857708;1412383882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.17120434 = 3.2529 BTC [+] {11}
857709;1412383943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.17499942 = 1.4 BTC [+]
857710;1412384003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.17666666 = 0.53 BTC [+] {2}
857711;1412384064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 270 @ 0.0040191 = 1.0852 BTC [-] {9}
857712;1412384065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.19088001 = 4.772 BTC [+] {5}
857713;1412384186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19210002 = 1.1526 BTC [+]
857714;1412384247;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26459 @ 0.00074372 = 19.6781 BTC [+] {3}
857715;1412384796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18 = 1.08 BTC [-]
857716;1412384857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 800 @ 0.00129898 = 1.0392 BTC [+] {3}
857717;1412384979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00129976 = 0.6499 BTC [+] {3}
857718;1412385376;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/extradited-by-my-rubber-ducklings.html lalala april was so much fun
857719;1412385459;mike_c;since we got the lulztron back.. the RENT 3po closed yesterday selling shares for 75. today they are back at 40. quite a 1 day return.
857720;1412385674;kakobrekla;well the roi is now like double
857721;1412385693;mike_c;the div yield through the roof
857722;1412385698;kakobrekla;yup
857723;1412386034;decimation;asciilifeform: there's a great deal of bureaucracy surrounding employment in the us
857724;1412386058;asciilifeform;decimation: yes.
857725;1412386065;decimation;mainly because there is no free market for 'health insurance', retirement, etc. even if you opt out you still need to file paperwork
857726;1412386081;decimation;and of course usg needs to know about your employment situation
857727;1412386099;asciilifeform;decimation: manually computing the tax, alone, is almost a job.
857728;1412386101;decimation;not because they are nosy busybodies but because they just want properly calculated taxes, you see
857729;1412386127;decimation;I think most folks just wing it and adjust when the tax bill comes due
857730;1412386138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00074499 = 7.4871 BTC [+]
857731;1412386385;decimation;it's amusing that usg taxes labor at usurious rates and then whines about how employment is so low
857732;1412386425;asciilifeform;decimation: donkey still moving, back not broken yet? put on more, more.
857733;1412386448;decimation;more like cow still has blood, room for more gnats
857734;1412386492;asciilifeform;now in most cases, it's usg's money (sometimes one or two steps removed) in the first place.
857735;1412386512;asciilifeform;so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty.
857736;1412386547;decimation;asciilifeform is that why usg employee's income is not 'pretaxed'?
857737;1412386563;asciilifeform;one reason, yes.
857738;1412386599;asciilifeform;other reasons include - folks who play in the real-estate chumpatron get a good deal of tax break.
857739;1412386631;asciilifeform;since tax authorities operate as if they did not know automagically, in real time, who these are - no pre-tax
857740;1412386687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50607 @ 0.00074176 = 37.5382 BTC [-]
857741;1412386706;asciilifeform;i, for instance, in effect pay almost double tax for refusal to 'buy' houses.
857742;1412386713;decimation;my company hires an old woman to assemble circuit boards, we pay her as an independent contractor. apparently the state has been harassing the company because the state presumes that her 'independent contract' is really an employment contract
857743;1412386716;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 66(Y):34(N) by coin, 52(Y):48(N) by weight. Total bet: 70.44387257 BTC. Current weight: 16,925.
857744;1412386734;decimation;asciilifeform: these days the double tax isn't as bad because the mortgage interest rates are low
857745;1412386739;decimation;but I agree with your point
857746;1412386775;decimation;my point is that a real estate agent is considered an independent contractor even when she works in an office with a secretary
857747;1412386782;decimation;gov't asks no questions
857748;1412386804;asciilifeform;independent contractor << not something you really want to be, for tax purposes, in usa
857749;1412386814;asciilifeform;you get to pay extra 'self employment' tax rate.
857750;1412386828;mod6;its horrid
857751;1412386846;decimation;yeah you must pay the employer's share of the 'social security payroll tax'
857752;1412386961;decimation;beyond the usurious rates, it is a double insult that usg insists that you participate in its crimes against honest accounting while paying 'tax' with your tax
857753;1412387255;mircea_popescu;yeah speaking of which, how's those posters things ? any bites from renters The20YearIRCloud ?
857754;1412387478;mircea_popescu; so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty. << more like, give patient something to do with his time.
857755;1412387526;decimation;mircea_popescu: obviously at the cost of draining productivity from the minority of the productive, but that hasn't stopped usg in the past
857756;1412387533;mircea_popescu;decimation> my point is that a real estate agent is considered an independent contractor even when she works in an office with a secretary <<< there
857757;1412387548;mircea_popescu;s a secial extemption written in the law against people like it folks being independent.
857758;1412387551;mircea_popescu;guess who lobbied.
857759;1412387584;decimation;meanwhile there's a special exception written in the law that requires the irs to presume that engineers are not independent contractors
857760;1412387593;mircea_popescu;exactly.
857761;1412387618;decimation;for the same reason the law also allows the importation of indian & chinese indentured servants
857762;1412387762;decimation;http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/27/business/how-a-tax-law-helps-insure-a-scarcity-of-programmers.html
857763;1412387762;assbot;How a Tax Law Helps Insure a Scarcity of Programmers - New York Times
857764;1412387785;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/dear-derps-you-are-being-herded/
857765;1412387808;diametric;asciilifeform: i disagree with your independent contractor bit on taxes.
857766;1412387821;diametric;asciilifeform: the amount of things I can now deduct has increased 10 fold.
857767;1412387829;decimation;diametric has a point
857768;1412387839;diametric;in fact, if I tried hard enough I think I could pay no taxes.
857769;1412387852;dub;should be gettin gpaid more than avg wage slave too
857770;1412387858;mircea_popescu;yeah, independent contractor is better if you can get it.
857771;1412387863;decimation;an 'employee' is at the mercy of his management to decide how to spend business revenue
857772;1412387869;diametric;decimation: exactly.
857773;1412387888;dub;employee has benefits adn protection tho
857774;1412387900;decimation;although even the independent contractor can't buy a company car for commuting, because the irs says so
857775;1412387911;diametric;56 cents per mile, all my tolls, my internet, my "home office", any equipment i buy for said home office, pretty much anything that has a realistic tie to me being a contractor is eligible.
857776;1412387911;mircea_popescu;yeah, if you're a woman you can't sue yourself for having jacked off in your home office.
857777;1412387926;mircea_popescu;so, independent contractor is better, if you're white, male and young.
857778;1412387930;mircea_popescu;ie, most people.
857779;1412387933;*;diametric raises hand
857780;1412387934;dub;i get ~70c/km so I win
857781;1412387973;mircea_popescu;uh.
857782;1412387985;mircea_popescu;how come you get so little again ?
857783;1412388024;decimation;usg's official rate is $0.56 per mile http://www.irs.gov/2014-Standard-Mileage-Rates-for-Business,-Medical-and-Moving-Announced
857784;1412388041;*;mircea_popescu takes cabs, deduces receipts. a dollar a km in .ro shithole, 5 eu/km in germany, etc.
857785;1412388077;mircea_popescu;this when not using a shuttle service or w/e
857786;1412388140;diametric;asciilifeform: the other thing is deductions aren't tied specifically to the individual contract either. so all my r&d gets deducted too.
857787;1412388173;decimation;there's no doubt that 'owning' a business is a good way to skate usg taxes
857788;1412388248;diametric;yeah. though if you pay the usg something instead of trying to null out the taxes, it goes a long way to avoiding troubles in the future, or so I heard from friends of mine that have been independent contractors for decades.
857789;1412388273;decimation;the rule of thumb is that you pay at least as much this year as the previous
857790;1412388314;decimation;that generally makes you fairly immune to serious harassment, at least in the opinion of some accountants I know
857791;1412388324;diametric;makes sense
857792;1412388333;decimation;but of course this kind of thing varies by case
857793;1412388343;diametric;also not being asian helps.
857794;1412388357;decimation;or selling real estate
857795;1412388372;diametric;its entirely anecdotal, but I know of more asians that have been audited than anyone else.
857796;1412388411;decimation;it's well known that greek & asians often operate cash businesses while staking tax
857797;1412388477;decimation;a friend told me that when he was three, his mom took her cash receipts from the family restaurant to the auditor, along with the screaming three year old. the auditor settled for $100 after a few hours of screaming
857798;1412388508;diametric;well played
857799;1412388553;decimation;"Donna Steele Flynn, a former member of the House Ways and Means Committee staff who is now a tax specialist with Ernst & Young, said, ''The only reason this hasn't gotten fixed is because the official Joint Tax Committee estimate in the past was that repeal of Section 1706 would cost a billion dollars in tax revenue over five years.''There is a political will on both sides of the aisle, but in terms of importance and number of
857800;1412388555;decimation;people, a billion dollars is a lot of money for a relatively small number of people.'"'
857801;1412388601;decimation;in other words we realize the we are thieves and will happily make unprincipled exceptions when we decide we can do so
857802;1412388659;decimation;in more other words, the 'political will' of a collection of elected lawyers with real estate side business all agree that they should not pay while others pay
857803;1412388804;asciilifeform;real estate 'market', pythonic strangler of all things alive.
857804;1412388856;decimation;indeed. The other day I was trying to find an etf or stock that didn't depend on 'bezzle' (ie usg fiat finance). I didn't succeed.
857805;1412388997;decimation;asciilifeform: I assume you live in some old suburb near DC - have you ever sat down to total the 'value' of the homes within a few blocks of where you live?
857806;1412389012;decimation;it's quite easy to come to billions of $ for obviously shitty hovels
857807;1412389090;asciilifeform;decimation: yes and yes.
857808;1412389123;asciilifeform;decimation: no need to go far. a short stretch of road - cost $b.
857809;1412389127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2511 @ 0.00074536 = 1.8716 BTC [+]
857810;1412389135;asciilifeform;without any houses. just asphalt.
857811;1412389147;decimation;yeah I've mentioned the "MD 200" fiasco
857812;1412389170;asciilifeform;i think diametric and i might be two of the 100 or so people who actually drive on that!
857813;1412389215;decimation;I've been on it a couple times. it's luxurious to weave across 3 empty lanes
857814;1412389222;mircea_popescu;<decimation> indeed. The other day I was trying to find an etf or stock that didn't depend on 'bezzle' (ie usg fiat finance). I didn't succeed. << this is roughly equivalent to, "the other day, i tried to find a natural process going backwards in entropy. i didn't succeed"
857815;1412389230;decimation;'seinfeld' style
857816;1412389230;mircea_popescu;how the fuck would you succeed, and what would that mean. instaunwind.
857817;1412389269;decimation;mircea_popescu: yeah I figured it was hopeless, but I wanted to pretend like my bezzlars were not locked in a usg approved cage
857818;1412389295;mircea_popescu;the thing is, without bitcoin that cage can't even be made apparent
857819;1412389314;asciilifeform;decimation: bezzlars work great because they devalue just as well at the bottom of the sea, or in a shoebox entombed in drywall ceiling, etc
857820;1412389315;mircea_popescu;(insmuch as the most you could do, cca 2010 or before, was to move them into... another cage, worse made)
857821;1412389341;decimation;with bitcoin, the 'free market' in us finance starts to look like a massive dekulakization experiment
857822;1412389363;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ <<< "With every passing day Bitcoin doesnt die, your future dies a little more."
857823;1412389364;assbot;Bitcoin will die pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
857824;1412389366;mircea_popescu;jesus i love my old shit.
857825;1412389386;*;asciilifeform read 'bitcoin' and 'dekulakization' as 'bukkakization' - eyes tired, possibly should sleep
857826;1412389410;mircea_popescu;sleeping rocks.
857827;1412389419;*;asciilifeform now wants to learn about 'bukkakization'
857828;1412389437;mircea_popescu;lol apparently the weev dude is now a white supremacist.
857829;1412389440;decimation;http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bal-icc111004,0,3081191.story "Flanagan announced last week that the estimated cost of the highway, which would run from U.S. 1 in Laurel to the Interstate 270 corridor in Montgomery County, had increased from the previous projection of $1.7 billion. ... Under current law, 87 percent of future increases would be available for non-ICC projects; the administration wants to make that 80 percent.
857830;1412389443;decimation;"
857831;1412389554;mircea_popescu;fun fact : Belize, Central African Republic, Djibouti all have a lower yearld gdp
857832;1412389556;mircea_popescu;than 1.7 bn
857833;1412389596;asciilifeform;speaking of pertinent oldies, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#782014
857834;1412389599;assbot;Logged on 02-08-2014 17:42:01; asciilifeform: dignork: as i pointed out ages ago to ninjaspamgun, it is the responsibility of operating system to enumerate, e.g. only usb dildo on a given port, and not keyboard or whatnot
857835;1412389646;decimation;asciilifeform: after working closely with usb, do you see it as an evil spec?
857836;1412389655;asciilifeform;and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718612
857837;1412389658;assbot;Logged on 14-06-2014 01:12:04; asciilifeform: dignork: sandisk used to make a line of usb micros called 's3', that had this feature
857838;1412389684;asciilifeform;decimation: not evil per se, but 'design by committee' all the way. no effort whatsoever was spent to lighten the book.
857839;1412389698;mircea_popescu;the spec is about as stupid as a hardware spec could be.
857840;1412389703;mircea_popescu;the kernel/os is the problem.
857841;1412389709;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/russias-ministry-of-finance-preps-to-ban-bitcoin/
857842;1412389715;asciilifeform;exploitable bugs in all known implementations. <- and you can take that to the bank.
857843;1412389790;decimation;yeah I don't see how 'usb' was an improvement over say 'rs-422'
857844;1412389796;asciilifeform;(if you let arbitrary gizmos enumerate on arbitrary ports, triggering load of kernel mods written in '98, you deserve what you get)
857845;1412389812;mircea_popescu;http://qntra.net/2014/10/russias-ministry-of-finance-preps-to-ban-bitcoin/#comment-2 <<< shit i got their cherry!
857846;1412389815;asciilifeform;decimation: it's the hardware version of the delusion behind 'xml'.
857847;1412389839;asciilifeform;decimation: that is, 'let's make heavily specified, supposedly self-describing, format for Everything!'
857848;1412389846;mircea_popescu;;;google "exploitable bugs in all known implementations"
857849;1412389847;gribble;On the Practical Exploitability of Dual EC in TLS Implementations: ; On the Practical Exploitability of Dual EC in TLS Implementations: ; Vulnerability (computing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
857850;1412389852;mircea_popescu;heh.
857851;1412389856;asciilifeform;lulzies.
857852;1412389889;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this notion of "self describing" is possibly the most idiotic thing self-important derps on "committees" ever came up with.
857853;1412389894;decimation;yeah ssl is the usb of IP
857854;1412389900;mircea_popescu;what the shit is it supposed to be, like a self-eating snake ?
857855;1412389919;asciilifeform;mind you, nowhere in the book-case worth of turds will you find the phrase 'self-describing'
857856;1412389927;mircea_popescu;o i know! we could resolve problems by positing nonsense and then building cleanly around it!
857857;1412389938;mircea_popescu;and if we ever run out of money, we'll withdraw infinity from a negative account!
857858;1412389943;decimation;in the us, even in commercial electronics, it is common for people who have no connection with any practical manufacturing/programming to 'design' specs
857859;1412389954;asciilifeform;decimation: these are the -only- folks permitted to design specs.
857860;1412389960;mircea_popescu;decimation the problem is they have no connection with higher level thinking.
857861;1412389964;decimation;right, because they are 'qualified'
857862;1412389992;asciilifeform;'qualified' specifically means a kind of 'aristotelian' noble, who never soiled his hands with lowly wurk.
857863;1412389993;decimation;for another thing the practical folks are off doing something useful rather than travelling to LA to 'agree on a spec'
857864;1412390013;mircea_popescu;specs are useful work.
857865;1412390033;asciilifeform;when done by people.
857866;1412390067;mircea_popescu;exactly.
857867;1412390073;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2014#600860 << here we go.
857868;1412390076;assbot;Logged on 02-04-2014 23:54:03; asciilifeform: i've tried this personally - it works. (you need a drive for which either docs or some reverse-engineerable flash diddler from the factory are available.)
857869;1412390082;*;asciilifeform was looking for a turdlet with a date.
857870;1412390088;mircea_popescu;where a good heuristic for peopleness is a strict disinterest in politeness.
857871;1412390243;decimation;related: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/02/the-nsa-and-me/ << "Many were embarrassingly critical of the agency, describing its enormous paranoia and obsession with secrecy. Others contained clues to a secret trips that Friedman had made to Switzerland, where he helped the agency gain backdoor access into encryption systems that a Swiss company was selling to foreign countries."
857872;1412390256;asciilifeform;crypto ag.
857873;1412390266;asciilifeform;^ still best-selling!
857874;1412390291;decimation;the bigger puzzle is why such a company has any clients at all
857875;1412390292;*;asciilifeform can only apprehend an 'orlov's deer/hunter system' explanation for this
857876;1412390326;asciilifeform;i.e. buying a crypto a.g. item is an explicit gesture of bending over and arse-spreading to usg by vassal state or org
857877;1412390327;mircea_popescu;decimation that part is simple. the thirld world consists of derps and chieftain derps.
857878;1412390332;mircea_popescu;the chieftain derps aspire to retire to florida
857879;1412390338;mircea_popescu;the derps are too stupid to understand much
857880;1412390357;mircea_popescu;if the cropto ag can be made complex enough, the chieftain derps can be given their florida retirement while the derps don't sniff the problem.
857881;1412390359;decimation;yeah I buy that
857882;1412390390;asciilifeform;incidentally, owner of crypto a.g. is unknown mega-moneybag.
857883;1412390397;asciilifeform;(no prizes for guessing who)
857884;1412390411;mircea_popescu;which is why the us is so successful in retarded thirld world countries (say, the uk, or switzerland) and so utterly ineffectual in clever thirld world countries (say, iraq)
857885;1412390427;mircea_popescu;in the former, the derps think the us is ok. in the latter, the derps realise the us is a terrorist entreprise.
857886;1412390477;asciilifeform;reaction to theft is always tied to what you are being asked to part with.
857887;1412390486;asciilifeform;the swiss, for all of their anal servitude, are still fat.
857888;1412390505;mircea_popescu;so you tihnk.
857889;1412390508;asciilifeform;swiss losing their starfish virginity - lazy. iraqi losing last bag of grain - fights.
857890;1412390513;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, in the 90s they were a major international player
857891;1412390524;mircea_popescu;and in 2010 they are a sort of monaco.
857892;1412390541;mircea_popescu;they lost everything, over a coupla decades, simply for acquiescing to the kyc/aml bullcrap.
857893;1412390556;mircea_popescu;their future is pretty much personified by belgium.
857894;1412390574;mircea_popescu;also an erstwhile major international power, that's meanwhile become a reservation/zoo.
857895;1412390584;asciilifeform;comfortable zoo, afaik.
857896;1412390590;asciilifeform;with top-grade 'meow mix'
857897;1412390591;mircea_popescu;depends for whom.
857898;1412390610;mircea_popescu;you mean, with insane rent costs because all the visiting bureaucrats can afford to pay them
857899;1412390623;mircea_popescu;'while the locals can choose from a variety of hospitality jobs, from hairdresser ot prostitute ?
857900;1412390646;mircea_popescu;yeah, good deal. very comfortable, they can charge for a hairjob/blowjob twice to ten times what a starving ukrainian student gets away with
857901;1412390656;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, the ukrainian student doesn't actually have to pay rent.
857902;1412390695;asciilifeform;aha - american endgame, yes.
857903;1412390750;mircea_popescu;anyway, they've been begging for the past years to be forgotten, but my and afaik everyone's call is "no" and "fuck you"
857904;1412390754;mircea_popescu;trust, you only break oncew.
857905;1412390788;asciilifeform;'forgive enemy - after hanging'
857906;1412390802;mircea_popescu;forget enemy after hanging.
857907;1412390805;mircea_popescu;never forgive.
857908;1412390818;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2JGHH2Z.txt )
857909;1412390818;asciilifeform;!b 3
857910;1412390825;mircea_popescu;but anyway, only someone who had physically visited switzerland cca say 1994 can appreciate the immensity of the drop
857911;1412390835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00074655 = 20.4555 BTC [+]
857912;1412390846;mircea_popescu;people love to imagine that playing ball has no costs. this is not unlike the chipper's fantasy that he's not a junkie.
857913;1412390859;asciilifeform;;;ud chipper
857914;1412390860;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Chipper | The Chipper. The male consumes large quantities of deep fried greasy food preferably a King Rib and a Cheese 'N' Burger supper with a few pickled onions ...
857915;1412390886;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/678785-Are-there-any-successful-heroin-chippers-out-there/
857916;1412390961;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2012/the-panic-in-needle-park/ also, not bad movie.
857917;1412390992;asciilifeform;t. dalrymple (alias, former british prison doctor, many great bookz) had a neato piece on opiates.
857918;1412391024;asciilifeform;how certain folks take to them once tasted, others - hate, can't possibly picture how anyone gets hooked.
857919;1412391085;mircea_popescu;mebbe.
857920;1412391213;cazalla;drugstore cowboy is a good one imo
857921;1412391813;mircea_popescu;jesus these people derping about codeine. here's a fun fact : as a growing tyke in soviet romania, mp like any other chitlins was administered phosphoric codeine freely for coughs.
857922;1412391828;mircea_popescu;nobody ever got addicted. when the fuck did codeine become an additcive substance. wtf is with these derps.
857923;1412391872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00074655 = 2.389 BTC [+]
857924;1412391896;mircea_popescu;http://www.pcfarm.ro/prospect.php?id=1054 << still available otc it seems.
857925;1412391902;Azelphur;I only heard people even taking it recreationally after I was on it for medical reasons
857926;1412391917;Azelphur;and I was like "wtf...why would you take that, it's horrible...and doesn't give you any noticeable high"
857927;1412391974;mircea_popescu;nuts.
857928;1412391996;Azelphur;people are weird. xD
857929;1412391999;decimation;apparently codeine cough syrups are available only in certain us states
857930;1412392074;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: the other thing they did that really pissed me off, they lowered the legal limit over the counter of Codeine from 10mg to 8mg here in UK
857931;1412392085;mircea_popescu;!up berndj-blackout
857932;1412392088;Azelphur;which means they pulled my damned hayfever tablets that actually fucking worked.
857933;1412392090;*;Azelphur rages
857934;1412392110;mircea_popescu;um.
857935;1412392111;Azelphur;dat 2mg of extra codeine makes all the difference.
857936;1412392164;decimation;same with mdma precursors like pseudo-ephedrine in the us
857937;1412392243;Azelphur;I still have half a tonne of codeine left over from when I had my wisdom tooth out lol
857938;1412392515;cazalla;you need to see my GP Azelphur http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2014#646954
857939;1412392518;assbot;Logged on 28-04-2014 09:30:07; cazalla: i went to a walk in medical centre with issues about my neck as I couldn't get an appointment at my usual GP, the GP at the walk in just assumed I was after pain meds and wrote a script for endone (oxycodone) without any hesitation to get me the fuck out of there
857940;1412392538;mircea_popescu;us medicine in the oz now too ?
857941;1412392560;cazalla;yeah, it's bad
857942;1412392610;cazalla;all the good dr's are approaching retirement age, all the new ones seem to play musical chairs and move around all the time so by the time you get to know them, they've moved on
857943;1412392665;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00074665 = 13.1784 BTC [+] {2}
857944;1412393031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074678 = 21.7313 BTC [+]
857945;1412393307;decimation;;;ticker
857946;1412393308;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 363.19, Best ask: 364.42, Bid-ask spread: 1.23000, Last trade: 364.42, 24 hour volume: 20852.34956404, 24 hour low: 353.75, 24 hour high: 378.11, 24 hour vwap: 375.401006584
857947;1412393682;mircea_popescu;o look at that it bounced again ?
857948;1412393727;kakobrekla;bounced to what
857949;1412393729;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/knc-wallet-now-available-for-ios-users/
857950;1412393866;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla well more like bounced off.
857951;1412393896;kakobrekla;well more like omg sellwall is temporary out of btc
857952;1412393918;mircea_popescu;heh.
857953;1412393949;mircea_popescu;http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD << chart's ded huh
857954;1412393950;assbot;Bitcoin Charts / Charts
857955;1412394190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00074713 = 12.1035 BTC [+] {2}
857956;1412395411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0007444 = 13.0642 BTC [-] {3}
857957;1412395593;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00074286 = 19.0915 BTC [-] {2}
857958;1412396203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7020 @ 0.00074262 = 5.2132 BTC [-]
857959;1412397179;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27470 @ 0.00074524 = 20.4717 BTC [+] {2}
857960;1412397198;Vexual;I was just thinking about lobbying the senate comittee into bc
857961;1412397279;Vexual;•nevermind
857962;1412397545;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1330 @ 0.00074731 = 0.9939 BTC [+]
857963;1412397606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5980 @ 0.00074162 = 4.4349 BTC [-] {2}
857964;1412397717;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
857965;1412397719;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.12, Best ask: 364.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 364.73, 24 hour volume: 21160.34002102, 24 hour low: 353.75, 24 hour high: 378.11, 24 hour vwap: 376.631827325
857966;1412397917;mircea_popescu;https://europeanequities.nyx.com/en/content/alexei-v-moiseev-deputy-finance-minister-russian-federation << the phonetics are pretty lulzy.
857967;1412397918;assbot;Alexei V. Moiseev Deputy Finance Minister of the Russian Federation | Euronext
857968;1412397930;mircea_popescu;From 07.1998 to 07.2001 economist-senior analyst of the market of sovereign instruments in the Department of operations on the market of instruments with fixed rate of return Bank of Pariba, London, Great Britain
857969;1412397930;mircea_popescu;From 07.2001 to 09.2010 senior economist, deputy head of Analitic department of Renessans Capital Financial Consultant
857970;1412397938;mircea_popescu;paribas and renaissance, respectively.
857971;1412398037;Vexual;friend to pussyriot
857972;1412398267;decimation;old Republicans see the truth, can do nothing about it: http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-forever-war/
857973;1412398269;assbot;The Forever War - The Unz Review
857974;1412398352;decimation;and http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/war-drums-along-the-potomac/ "Given our horrified and hyperbolic reaction, ISIS can credibly make this boast to the jihadists from Nigeria to the Hindu Kush, from Libya to Iraq, from Somalia to Syria:
857975;1412398353;assbot;War Drums Along the Potomac - The Unz Review
857976;1412398353;decimation;“ISIS is the enemy the Great Satan fears and hates most. ISIS is the Islamist organization that strikes fear into NATO. Not al-Qaida, not Boko Haram, not Ansar al-Sharia, not the al Nusra Front — ISIS."
857977;1412398469;mircea_popescu;lol. as if.
857978;1412398493;mircea_popescu;narcissus can't quite represent the river in any other terms than the great honor of having reflected his divine beauty ?
857979;1412398607;decimation;you told me a few hours ago that third world derps are easily impressed/swayed, seems to me that whatever bs cnn is pimping would carry sway with the third world masses
857980;1412398626;Dimsler;who gives a fuck about the third world masses?
857981;1412398637;decimation;third world chieftains
857982;1412398648;Dimsler;coalition of the willing
857983;1412398651;mircea_popescu;decimation "to the jihadists" ?
857984;1412398657;mircea_popescu;i think you've mixed the persons.
857985;1412398692;mircea_popescu;unless you mean specifically the al-sauds, but really, one doesn't need to tell them who strikes fear in the us.
857986;1412398695;decimation;well you have a point there
857987;1412398697;mircea_popescu;they know.
857988;1412398757;decimation;it's true that cnn's bs won't sway that hardened jihadis, but it will carry sway with n00bs who just want to shoot somebody, ie cannon fodder
857989;1412398786;mircea_popescu;you mean people who don't speak english ?
857990;1412398808;decimation;all they need to know is that the great satan hates isis
857991;1412398811;Dimsler;are you seriously saying that CNN has any form of sway
857992;1412398816;mircea_popescu;they don't need cnn for that.
857993;1412398820;Dimsler;in any type of government politics
857994;1412398825;mircea_popescu;or, for that matter, the great satan altogether.
857995;1412399863;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00074766 = 37.466 BTC [+] {4}
857996;1412400107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19346 @ 0.00074259 = 14.3661 BTC [-] {2}
857997;1412401327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13349 @ 0.00074827 = 9.9887 BTC [+] {2}
857998;1412401388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19351 @ 0.00074891 = 14.4922 BTC [+] {2}
857999;1412402547;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00074132 = 5.7452 BTC [-] {2}
858000;1412404881;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXJDBp0yW1A
858001;1412404881;assbot;THIS VIDEO WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE - YouTube
858002;1412404922;Vexual;oooh... click
858003;1412404958;Vexual;meh fuck you
858004;1412406573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00074368 = 14.4646 BTC [+] {2}
858005;1412406817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00074163 = 6.0072 BTC [-]
858006;1412407429;Vexual;;;het gribble compare the bc tarde volume attributed to hk from the last 6 hours to the last siz days
858007;1412407430;gribble;Error: "het" is not a valid command.
858008;1412407627;Vexual;46 32 het het het
858009;1412407659;Vexual;whoops i was looking at aussie dollars
858010;1412407849;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7luCkBUtj_M a rand in the hand is worth two in the bush
858011;1412408139;Vexual;when the lips are gone, the teeth will grow cold
858012;1412408265;Vexual;if anyone can explain the cantonese extrusions of that, i'd appreciate it
858013;1412408302;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhVwBESulM
858014;1412408303;assbot;Bitcoin Users In A Nutshell - YouTube
858015;1412408333;Vexual;if thats austin powers, ill slap you
858016;1412408534;dub;lol thats great
858017;1412408542;dub;mark is the best
858018;1412408608;Vexual;yeah you're not supposed t make fun of autistic people
858019;1412408690;dub;fuck autistic people
858020;1412408715;Vexual;i don;t think is mom is a phrichiatrist anyway
858021;1412408788;Vexual;[microscope] nope , it's fail
858022;1412408891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55300 @ 0.00074085 = 40.969 BTC [-] {4}
858023;1412408971;Vexual;but if you are autistic, you should be good at computers, and stealing
858024;1412408978;Vexual;thanks mom
858025;1412409443;Vexual;let the lawyer talk mom
858026;1412409506;Vexual;you don't need to train to be a ninja
858027;1412409627;Vexual;enter: old french lady with nunchaku
858028;1412409713;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OpmHeB5fV4
858029;1412409862;Vexual;!up KS
858030;1412409892;Vexual;will someone, im to fat to pass the doorbitch
858031;1412409928;Vexual;oh no it work, just doesn't report
858032;1412410055;Vexual;no, balnks
858033;1412410342;Vexual;speaking of dislexia and usbs
858034;1412410394;Vexual;late one night i bought some things for my ebay shop
858035;1412410429;Vexual;4-6 weeks later i didn't realize how drunk i'd been
858036;1412410517;dub;you bougth bfl asics
858037;1412410557;Vexual;no some big arse airconditioners
858038;1412410806;Vexual;the delivery guy got an earful
858039;1412410878;Vexual;now i sign for anything, i made a packet
858040;1412411636;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19515 @ 0.00074006 = 14.4423 BTC [-] {2}
858041;1412411754;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZcSLWEQUyY black sails new season coming soon
858042;1412411841;cazalla;oh great, when did that start Vexual, i love shit like hornblower
858043;1412411899;Vexual;dont think season two has yet
858044;1412411923;Vexual;oh the first? last year
858045;1412411940;cazalla;is it any good?
858046;1412411949;Vexual;it's excellent
858047;1412412080;Vexual;supposedly a prequal to treasure island
858048;1412412272;thickasthieves;;;ticker
858049;1412412274;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 352.22, Best ask: 352.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 352.22, 24 hour volume: 22063.26249460, 24 hour low: 352.22, 24 hour high: 377.6, 24 hour vwap: 377.37448167
858050;1412412337;punkman;there goes my 350 bet
858051;1412412341;punkman;I wanted to believe!
858052;1412412361;Vexual;you should'a told me
858053;1412412390;punkman;;;bc,xau
858054;1412412392;gribble;1 XAU = 1191.700000000000 USD = 3.3832046332 BTC
858055;1412412460;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMSoo4B2hFU
858056;1412412460;assbot;Black Sails OST - Theme from Black Sails - YouTube
858057;1412412463;punkman;love the hurdy gurdy
858058;1412412663;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypuaJLHK_LQ
858059;1412412664;assbot;Omen - Guilhem Desq (Hurdy Gurdy) - YouTube
858060;1412412667;Vexual;you'll have it in spades
858061;1412412795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14461 @ 0.0007406 = 10.7098 BTC [+]
858062;1412413082;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZcSLWEQUyY
858063;1412413134;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk
858064;1412413514;Vexual;all the hong kong kids are on the strret tonight
858065;1412413585;Vexual;nnone runs a trading bot without watching it
858066;1412413591;dub;can't wait to see the tanks start rolling over them
858067;1412413613;Vexual;i doubt that, it's all very polite
858068;1412413645;dub;not in the mainland
858069;1412413649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00074002 = 14.5044 BTC [-] {2}
858070;1412413737;dub;'unnacceptable display of disloyalty to the motherland, ps murica you can stfu about it'
858071;1412413797;dub;best case tianammen 2.0 and birds inbound to washington
858072;1412413835;Vexual;like the wot these kids know about history
858073;1412413893;Vexual;theyre trading bitcoin and doing social media and all kinds of groovey things
858074;1412414116;Vexual;students in tianammen went to a very different university
858075;1412414340;Vexual;they prolly took hal their classes in english
858076;1412414371;Vexual;if fact the english is prolly better than th emandarin
858077;1412414488;Vexual;however theyve never met the secret police
858078;1412414503;dub;and now the invite the evils of democracy
858079;1412414515;dub;you\re not really helping the case
858080;1412414524;Vexual;whats wrong with democracy?
858081;1412414533;Vexual;i dont help shit
858082;1412414537;dub;whats right with it?
858083;1412414602;Vexual;well i can feel like im part of something bigger with my mind as well as my input
858084;1412414638;Vexual;and i dont have to hide my favourite cow
858085;1412414654;dub;theres no such thing as democracy in practise, only americancy
858086;1412414664;dub;which is a cancer
858087;1412414700;dub;whats needed is some chinese radiotherapy
858088;1412414745;Vexual;perhaps you're right
858089;1412414772;Vexual;me, i like hearing my keyboard click
858090;1412414787;dub;that just makes you a hipster
858091;1412414799;Vexual;if im a hipster...
858092;1412414816;Vexual;wait what?
858093;1412414909;Vexual;hk is effective a different country
858094;1412414941;Vexual;the inout is kinda onesided
858095;1412415093;Vexual;all i know is they cut a nice suit on the way to macau
858096;1412415199;Vexual;and if 20k kids want something, don't send 6 fuckwits
858097;1412415235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11411 @ 0.00074001 = 8.4443 BTC [-]
858098;1412415296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45089 @ 0.00074019 = 33.3744 BTC [+] {3}
858099;1412415990;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA jazzy jeff and the fresh prince, summerime
858100;1412416613;thickasthieves;i had the cassette
858101;1412416638;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2186 @ 0.00074163 = 1.6212 BTC [+]
858102;1412416741;Vexual;oh yes
858103;1412416746;dub;the double one?
858104;1412416780;Vexual;mine was on a mixtape
858105;1412416821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26007 @ 0.00074567 = 19.3926 BTC [+] {3}
858106;1412416941;Vexual;trice dubbed
858107;1412417240;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY regulators
858108;1412417468;dub;fuck outta here clean version
858109;1412417582;Vexual;was it?
858110;1412417666;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-partners-with-vogogo-and-digital-btc/
858111;1412417668;dub;i need this in the whip
858112;1412417762;Vexual;big vern and zt
858113;1412417910;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1uKhl61LQ
858114;1412417985;Vexual;^i got five on it
858115;1412418767;xanthyos;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduMMteTEbc
858116;1412418767;assbot;Bill Maher and Ben Affleck Battle Over Radical Islam - " They Will F*cking Kill You! " - YouTube
858117;1412418773;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38650 @ 0.00074638 = 28.8476 BTC [+] {3}
858118;1412419444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00074721 = 5.5667 BTC [+]
858119;1412420171;danielpbarron;the democratic party returns to its jingoist pro-war roots
858120;1412420969;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00074538 = 22.0632 BTC [-]
858121;1412421274;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35176 @ 0.00074739 = 26.2902 BTC [+] {2}
858122;1412421783;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EmD32AQzaQ fancy
858123;1412422223;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4sDn89P04 intermission
858124;1412422496;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXWvKDSwvls joe walsh lifes been good
858125;1412422602;Vexual;when do i get to talk to riso?
858126;1412422679;Vexual;encino man
858127;1412422919;Vexual;delicate flower he is
858128;1412423176;Vexual;yah can't put losing a pussy riot subscription on your resume
858129;1412423275;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY
858130;1412423531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00074502 = 5.7367 BTC [-] {2}
858131;1412423623;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDLeo4lcCg last of the V8s
858132;1412423940;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSodCuo73ig motorhead brotherhood of man
858133;1412424321;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIWfCDpSWc motorhead one more fucking time
858134;1412424507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00074222 = 9.8715 BTC [-] {2}
858135;1412424766;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-3ECY9-7e4 inner circle tear down these walls
858136;1412424902;thickasthieves;;;ticker
858137;1412424903;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.0, Best ask: 348.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.09000, Last trade: 347.0, 24 hour volume: 23710.17192233, 24 hour low: 346.5, 24 hour high: 373.62, 24 hour vwap: 0
858138;1412425016;Vexual;shit
858139;1412425074;mats_cd03;damn
858140;1412425079;mats_cd03;:(
858141;1412425120;mats_cd03;http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/bitcoin-to-drop-under-350-before-november
858142;1412425120;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November :: 94.14 B (80%) on Yes, 23.94 B (20%) on No | closing in 6 days 11 hours | weight: 15`840 (100`000 to 1)
858143;1412425129;Vexual;lol
858144;1412425137;mats_cd03;lost mah bitcoins
858145;1412425149;Vexual;long way to november
858146;1412425266;Vexual;6 and 6 parts of a dozen and then six parts of that, half of six again, ass one sixth
858147;1412425318;Vexual;;;8ball
858148;1412425318;gribble;The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
858149;1412425461;Vexual;http://vimeo.com/61341838 isis bob dylan 1976
858150;1412425483;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00074812 = 17.2068 BTC [+] {4}
858151;1412426129;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI thunder on the mountain bob dylan 2006
858152;1412426630;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMXhNoyEtg corrina corinna bob dylan et all 1928-1968
858153;1412426991;Vexual;bob dylans blues circa 62 are stil rarer on youtube circe 2014 than van morrison on youtube circa 21010
858154;1412427112;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFxGBB4UGU van morrison moondance 1970
858155;1412427496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28120 @ 0.00074527 = 20.957 BTC [-] {2}
858156;1412427513;Vexual;'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbwivaZoqAM oh here it is bob dylans blues 1962, not 212
858157;1412427834;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxuHQPMD7AE percy p put it on the line 2005
858158;1412428148;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE jennifer lopez jenny from the block 2002
858159;1412428167;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4390 @ 0.00074853 = 3.286 BTC [+]
858160;1412428451;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soEjX2YD3yM king kapisi screams from the old plantation 2000
858161;1412428892;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDyUcmoIkl0 black seeds so true 2004
858162;1412429266;kakobrekla; http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/bitcoin-to-drop-under-350-before-november < jesus all the leeches :(
858163;1412429267;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November :: 94.14 B (80%) on Yes, 23.94 B (20%) on No | closing in 6 days 10 hours | weight: 15`722 (100`000 to 1)
858164;1412429401;Vexual;whaddaya mean leeches?
858165;1412429415;thickasthieves;i linked the bet to tradingview chat when it broke 360
858166;1412429417;thickasthieves;:)
858167;1412429419;Apocalyptic;people betting after the fact occured
858168;1412429446;Vexual;how does that affect others? im not versed in bitbet
858169;1412429485;thickasthieves;it just means they submitted bets close to the wire, and some after the wire
858170;1412429495;thickasthieves;which i think just get refunded
858171;1412429502;thickasthieves;unless the bet is closed
858172;1412429511;thickasthieves;then they are kept
858173;1412429522;thickasthieves;correct me if i'm wrong
858174;1412429529;Vexual;but it's not closed
858175;1412429568;thickasthieves;well why not
858176;1412429570;thickasthieves;!
858177;1412429575;Apocalyptic;!!1!
858178;1412429586;Apocalyptic;Vexual, doesn't matter
858179;1412429621;thickasthieves;it broke like 90min ago i think
858180;1412429642;Vexual;oh im bots off
858181;1412429655;Vexual;rhum and all yo usee
858182;1412429698;Vexual;my dark and stormys only have black rhum
858183;1412429754;Vexual;dang
858184;1412429842;Vexual;http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Hung+Front+Row+Stephane+Rolland+Show+v_dUbEvHiN_l.jpg
858185;1412430128;Vexual;images like dooglas countin clams
858186;1412430191;Vexual;eleventeen exchanges cant be wrong
858187;1412430429;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPo7yl-qArA high low
858188;1412430732;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92g7LKkZ1I maniacs
858189;1412431495;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDAkMgTANg
858190;1412431522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1910 @ 0.00074424 = 1.4215 BTC [-]
858191;1412432559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15913 @ 0.0007458 = 11.8679 BTC [+] {2}
858192;1412432680;kakobrekla;;;bc,xau
858193;1412432682;gribble;1 XAU = 1191.700000000000 USD = 3.44680974142 BTC
858194;1412432864;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3939 @ 0.00074925 = 2.9513 BTC [+]
858195;1412433658;mircea_popescu; who gives a fuck about the third world masses? << well, at the very least they do. but otherwise, people like anyone else, what, you think the conventional splits of the world become a thing of the world itself ?
858196;1412433708;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
858197;1412433710;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 346.65, Best ask: 347.86, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 347.87, 24 hour volume: 20245.98463805, 24 hour low: 345.57, 24 hour high: 370.99, 24 hour vwap: 0
858198;1412433716;mircea_popescu;ding
858199;1412433933;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E
858200;1412433934;assbot;Welcome to Life: the singularity, ruined by lawyers - YouTube
858201;1412433962;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074528 = 2.1986 BTC [-]
858202;1412434084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16365 @ 0.00074925 = 12.2615 BTC [+] {2}
858203;1412434281;mircea_popescu;o god.
858204;1412434508;mircea_popescu;http://www.forbes.com/sites/irswatch/2014/10/03/are-virtual-currencies-the-next-offshore-bank-account-for-tax-evaders/
858205;1412434508;assbot;Are Virtual Currencies The Next Offshore Bank Account for Tax Evaders? - Forbes
858206;1412434532;mircea_popescu;methinks teh bureaucrats have figured out they can't beat it and they can't buy it.
858207;1412434561;kakobrekla;save 20% on taxes while lose 50 value
858208;1412434562;kakobrekla;good deal
858209;1412434633;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00074528 = 7.9 BTC [-]
858210;1412434649;mircea_popescu;tax evasion is a 20 to 50 year game plan.
858211;1412434665;mircea_popescu;ye, about twice the lifespan of most governments
858212;1412434681;kakobrekla;heh
858213;1412434767;mircea_popescu;tax evasion is all about a)ensuring your own revenue from back in the day you generate revenue, your 20s and 30s, is available to you when you need it, ie your 60s and 70s and b) making sure the fortune you collected will reach the biologic offspring of your choice, rather than the offspring others would prefer.
858214;1412434782;mircea_popescu;both of these being, of course, quite reasonable goals.
858215;1412435017;thickasthieves;and the government's lifeline is preventing you from that
858216;1412435043;mircea_popescu;not necessarily, no. in fact, the government's lifeline is supporting that.
858217;1412435063;mircea_popescu;the socialist totalitarian state however, can't exist except by stealing from the producers to support the parasites.
858218;1412435097;mircea_popescu;if it manages to get a cycle going it can for a time overpower legitimate government.
858219;1412435119;thickasthieves;why is it that states can offer lotto tickets but gambling is illegal mostly?
858220;1412435121;mircea_popescu;that cycle depends on successfully misrepresenting itself as a legitimate government to the producers, and sufficiently empowering the parasites as to maintain it in power.
858221;1412435147;mircea_popescu;which is why other than the money supply, socialist totalitarian governments aim for a monopoly in communication and for a particular corrupt rendition of democracy.
858222;1412435220;mircea_popescu;STS, not a bad acronym.
858223;1412435250;mircea_popescu;i suppose if the "community" wasn't mostly composed of retards, i'd be sponsoring a USG=STS grafitti campaign all over the 50 contiguous states.
858224;1412435252;mircea_popescu;a well.
858225;1412435279;thickasthieves;sugar tongue slim
858226;1412435314;mircea_popescu;yeahimsure.
858227;1412435407;thickasthieves;"For those that follow S.T.S., you probably know his 3 favorite things, WOMEN, WEED, and what to WEAR. "
858228;1412435434;mircea_popescu;dude srsly ? what's this, glam rap ?
858229;1412435464;thickasthieves;he's a saint compared to others
858230;1412435579;mircea_popescu;so you're telling me i could have a rap video produced consisting of sketchy looking black males derping all about how badass they are while being naked and fucking themselves with anal stretchers ?
858231;1412435586;mircea_popescu;jesus shit i wanna do this now.
858232;1412435609;thickasthieves;did you hear the gay rapper?
858233;1412435619;mircea_popescu;that thing's come full circle, it's now gaygsta raep
858234;1412435626;thickasthieves;(separately, this is the only reason I liek STS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Ie4CcTGKY)
858235;1412435626;assbot;STS 16 - BONUS STSisGOLD [Prod. by BearOne] - YouTube
858236;1412435682;thickasthieves;and for your viewing pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c4jpGG8ew8
858237;1412435683;assbot;The Gayest Song Of All Time Gay Rapper " Fly Young Red " Music Video Throw That Boy Pxssy " - YouTube
858238;1412435684;mircea_popescu;so formulaic.
858239;1412435702;thickasthieves;i just like the groove of that whole sts song
858240;1412435713;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves so basically he's trying to be that white guy, what's his name ? the short one
858241;1412435725;thickasthieves;eminem?
858242;1412435727;mircea_popescu;yea
858243;1412435742;thickasthieves;most rappers are at least keeping tabs on him
858244;1412435747;mircea_popescu;heh.
858245;1412435750;thickasthieves;he's pretty much the king
858246;1412435756;thickasthieves;but most dont like to say so
858247;1412435762;mircea_popescu;isn't that a little ironic incidentally ? lol
858248;1412435774;thickasthieves;like Elvis
858249;1412435823;mircea_popescu;yea but elvis was talented.
858250;1412435841;thickasthieves;eminem is quite talented in that context
858251;1412435844;mircea_popescu;why is this fly young dood even talking, he can't rap or anything
858252;1412435860;mircea_popescu;now how do you figure that ?!
858253;1412435873;thickasthieves;eminem is like the only guy that can do it all
858254;1412435882;mircea_popescu;i mean sure, he's talented in the sense that he doesn't audibly wheeze like this vocational school reject here.
858255;1412435883;thickasthieves;freestyle, compose, battle, perform
858256;1412435889;mircea_popescu;uhh.. k.
858257;1412435897;mircea_popescu;but he doesn't actually have a voice.
858258;1412435905;thickasthieves;oh hell no
858259;1412435916;thickasthieves;he's not a singer
858260;1412435923;thickasthieves;and many voices would sound better on his own stuff
858261;1412435932;mircea_popescu;well fuck, im a talented dancer, im the only guy who can walk, dress, eat and sit up on a chair.
858262;1412435942;mircea_popescu;what is this, hospice olympics ?
858263;1412435954;thickasthieves;well you dont compare ballet to breakdancing do you?
858264;1412435960;mircea_popescu;i do, yes.
858265;1412435967;mircea_popescu;in that i require my ballet experts to breakdance.
858266;1412435978;thickasthieves;hrm
858267;1412435991;thickasthieves;youre diffusing me with weirdness
858268;1412436003;mircea_popescu;good exercise, what. breakdancing is a ballet sub.
858269;1412436030;mircea_popescu;and fwiw, most opera training includes some sca.
858270;1412436041;thickasthieves;but the best breakdancer couldnt ballet
858271;1412436044;mircea_popescu;scat*
858272;1412436069;thickasthieves;i could see how scat would be good training for certain qualities
858273;1412436076;mircea_popescu;well that depends. if he's actually good rather than just faking it well (by doing the moves he can do in succession so as to distract from the narrowness)
858274;1412436080;thickasthieves;timing, mouth noise
858275;1412436080;mircea_popescu;then he could prolly learn pretty fast.
858276;1412436135;thickasthieves;but the style of his music doesnt provide much opportunity for displaying it
858277;1412436146;thickasthieves;though i will say when he does try to sing it's pretty weak
858278;1412436157;thickasthieves;he goes for more of chant thing usually
858279;1412436166;thickasthieves;and his voice is always heavily processed
858280;1412436170;thickasthieves;doubled and such
858281;1412436177;punkman;know any rappers that can actually sing?
858282;1412436185;mircea_popescu;there were some girls
858283;1412436187;thickasthieves;yeah, pharcyde
858284;1412436191;thickasthieves;outkast
858285;1412436200;thickasthieves;en vogue
858286;1412436207;thickasthieves;:)
858287;1412436208;ben_vulpes;pharell williams
858288;1412436213;thickasthieves;i dont like his voice
858289;1412436219;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46450 @ 0.0007484 = 34.7632 BTC [+] {3}
858290;1412436220;thickasthieves;he sings very generic
858291;1412436229;ben_vulpes;i sign the song generic
858292;1412436234;thickasthieves;i always thought happy should have been sung by ceelo
858293;1412436234;ben_vulpes;all pop songs are generic man
858294;1412436248;thickasthieves;ceelo is a rapper that can sing
858295;1412436248;ben_vulpes;oh yeah forget ye not ceelo
858296;1412436258;thickasthieves;he doesnt rap much anymore tho
858297;1412436270;ben_vulpes;expanding horizons
858298;1412436279;thickasthieves;such a creepy dude
858299;1412436348;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves incidentally, you know what else includes breakdancing ? horseback riding lol
858300;1412436364;ben_vulpes;?
858301;1412436374;mircea_popescu;or at least, a lulzy subset of breakdancing consising of "hei guise i've just been thrown at speed fron three feet up, look what i can do"
858302;1412436392;thickasthieves;hehe
858303;1412436398;thickasthieves;gymastics
858304;1412436400;mircea_popescu;no but srsly, "how to safely fall"
858305;1412436401;thickasthieves;n
858306;1412436409;thickasthieves;i believe it
858307;1412436424;thickasthieves;falling is a skill in many sports
858308;1412436464;mircea_popescu;actually, the one fad i most regret is parkour
858309;1412436478;ben_vulpes;capoeira is also a superset of breakdancing then
858310;1412436482;mircea_popescu;in the 90s i was hoping for it to take over the world,
858311;1412436498;thickasthieves;the videos are fun
858312;1412436501;thickasthieves;for about 10min
858313;1412436511;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes tbh i think the other way around
858314;1412436516;thickasthieves;kinda like watching skateboarding videos
858315;1412436525;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves not as much as a performance sport. more like an erryday activity.
858316;1412436527;thickasthieves;capoeira very dancey
858317;1412436539;ben_vulpes;capoeira's definitly older.
858318;1412436549;thickasthieves;yeah itd be cool if humans were all jumpy
858319;1412436550;ben_vulpes;my dance set theory's weak though.
858320;1412436578;thickasthieves;ninja swing out of my car to the trunk in one move, cuz why not
858321;1412436581;ben_vulpes;but go on with the parkour, mircea
858322;1412436582;mircea_popescu;i suppose western obesity had a lot to do with why it didn't catch over here,
858323;1412436590;mircea_popescu;but dayum, the chink kids are all thin and shit.
858324;1412436604;mircea_popescu; ninja swing out of my car to the trunk in one move, cuz why not << that.
858325;1412436636;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: the passenger door dun work on my wheelbox, i ninja escape over the stick frequently
858326;1412436650;*;ben_vulpes is enrolling in the b-a paupery competition
858327;1412436673;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes you know how the passanger door stops working right ?
858328;1412436686;ben_vulpes;...
858329;1412436699;ben_vulpes;it's specifically the internal release, but go on.
858330;1412436700;thickasthieves;ben_vulpes is enrolling in the b-a paupery competition /// arbeit macht frei
858331;1412436729;mircea_popescu;loser dude with no crib to take the bitches at keeps bringing teenaged priss puss over to this ravine or w/e, asks them to do things much to their indignant surprise,
858332;1412436733;mircea_popescu;so they get out and slam the door.
858333;1412436737;mircea_popescu;after a few years...
858334;1412436755;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: it's one of those "ask a guy who likes flying if he'd rather have 500K or a 6-seater" situations
858335;1412436784;ben_vulpes;lol mircea_popescu in this situation it's probably my own hulk-smash behavior
858336;1412436795;mircea_popescu;you mean ask a rap artist if he'd rather have 10k or 100 speed balls for his contract advance ?
858337;1412436815;ben_vulpes;shit's gotta be robust to survive proximate to me
858338;1412436827;ben_vulpes;rap artist == drug addict?
858339;1412436831;thickasthieves;smart rapper gets half and half
858340;1412436834;thickasthieves;:)
858341;1412436835;mircea_popescu;ahahhhaha
858342;1412436840;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1XSGQAJ.txt )
858343;1412436840;mircea_popescu;!b 6
858344;1412436842;mircea_popescu;so much win there
858345;1412436911;mircea_popescu;and incidentally,
858346;1412436914;mircea_popescu;;;google teenaged priss puss
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858348;1412436927;mircea_popescu;spongebobia hm ?
858349;1412437144;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPO5VDoDGLM
858350;1412437145;assbot;Creole Love Call - Adelade Hall - YouTube
858351;1412437154;thickasthieves;looks like final capitulation is this weekend
858352;1412437198;mircea_popescu;never.
858353;1412437230;thickasthieves;i think you mena something else ;)
858354;1412437232;thickasthieves;mean
858355;1412437239;mircea_popescu;and i would like the permanent record to reflect the fact that this is going to be the high water mark for all time.
858356;1412437259;thickasthieves;you mean this low will neve rbe seen again?
858357;1412437265;mircea_popescu;the next pass, if fucking sponsored by the UN, if it has a special international institution created, won't get as far.
858358;1412437297;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves not specifically the price itself. more holistically speaking.
858359;1412437318;thickasthieves;still so many threats to experience though
858360;1412437331;mircea_popescu;yeah.
858361;1412437334;mircea_popescu;all for the other side.
858362;1412437355;mircea_popescu;totally insufficient experience of what threat really means.
858363;1412437396;thickasthieves;my new fear is how the hell can we keep exchange points from making btc, or paper copy markets
858364;1412437407;thickasthieves;basically any unnatural inflation
858365;1412437417;mircea_popescu;by taking delivery.
858366;1412437445;thickasthieves;but surely some will play in instruments or environments that dont
858367;1412437458;thickasthieves;and surely some of those may influence whole market
858368;1412437458;mircea_popescu;and go bankrupt and lose their pot.
858369;1412437466;mircea_popescu;the high mark of that was pirate, actually.
858370;1412437487;mircea_popescu;what one sole idiot with the help of a bunch of retarded community members accomplished in 2011
858371;1412437505;mircea_popescu;can't now be reproduced by the usg, with the help of a smaller bucnh of much more retarded "community" members.
858372;1412437509;thickasthieves;ethereum will be another node on the timeline
858373;1412437527;mircea_popescu;yeah but buterin of 2014 is no gigavps of 2011
858374;1412437528;ben_vulpes;the etf
858375;1412437546;ben_vulpes;that one kinda makes my knees shake a bit
858376;1412437559;mircea_popescu;what one is that ?
858377;1412437563;thickasthieves;i'm kinda thinking that WinklETF aint happening
858378;1412437564;ben_vulpes;all the american tards who "buy" "btc" via schwab
858379;1412437566;thickasthieves;COIN
858380;1412437590;thickasthieves;i was reasding how the application says they plan to use BTCE, bitfinex etc for it
858381;1412437591;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: coin?
858382;1412437591;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes eh let them have their fun, if they bought tesla it'd be no different.
858383;1412437603;thickasthieves;COIN is the ticker for the wink ETF
858384;1412437608;ben_vulpes;ah yeah
858385;1412437626;ben_vulpes;not even buying otc?
858386;1412437637;mircea_popescu;how would they lol
858387;1412437650;ben_vulpes;how are they going to feed that thing without driving the price around like crazy on the playchanges
858388;1412437654;thickasthieves;i dont recall, but my point is that wtf put btce in your plan
858389;1412437678;ben_vulpes;what specifically are you talking about, their index or their paper?
858390;1412437678;mircea_popescu;recall, most of the scams unwinding in the scamspace, bfl, mtgox, etc all tried to use the otc and got rejected.
858391;1412437689;mircea_popescu;the otc is in fact incredibly effectual at policing
858392;1412437695;thickasthieves;it says in the doc something like "btce is run by anonymous parties purported to be in bulgaria"
858393;1412437704;thickasthieves;like the sec will approve that
858394;1412437714;ben_vulpes;no man
858395;1412437733;ben_vulpes;COIN is a tool of the USG, the SEC will approve whatever it takes to get fake btc into american hands.
858396;1412437764;Dimsler;btc-e rocks
858397;1412437768;Dimsler;best kept secret since bitcoin
858398;1412437781;thickasthieves;til it pops
858399;1412437789;kakobrekla;O_o
858400;1412437795;Dimsler;till what pops
858401;1412437803;Dimsler;its been the most stable buisness in btc
858402;1412437806;thickasthieves;at best they are running some kind of arb scheme
858403;1412437823;thickasthieves;at worst they are printing btc to keep their price down to do same
858404;1412437828;Dimsler;the btc-e crew is in it for the long run
858405;1412437829;kakobrekla;etc all tried to use the otc < eh?
858406;1412437840;Dimsler;not sure what you're rambling about
858407;1412437853;thickasthieves;no one really withdraws cash from btce
858408;1412437871;thickasthieves;so you kinda have to pay admission to trade ther eby selling your btc cheap
858409;1412437889;thickasthieves;somethings fishy
858410;1412437904;Dimsler;whats fishy about it
858411;1412437907;Dimsler;the load in percentage
858412;1412437911;Dimsler;is reflected in the sale price
858413;1412437922;thickasthieves;;;ticker --market all
858414;1412437930;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 345.39, vol: 20360.85658159 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 330.49, vol: 12046.80378 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 345.11, vol: 25709.08908204 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 350.0, vol: 45.18495335 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 344.116476, vol: 41585.37640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 341.99671, vol: 8.87086436 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 352.923, vol: 84.94255978 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
858415;1412437931;thickasthieves;^ thats whats fishy
858416;1412437932;Dimsler;costs about %5 to load into btc-e
858417;1412437936;Dimsler;you know what
858418;1412437938;Dimsler;just shutup
858419;1412437941;thickasthieves;lol
858420;1412437941;Dimsler;you have no idea wha tyou're talking about
858421;1412437970;thickasthieves;sore spot?
858422;1412437987;Dimsler;for what?
858423;1412437991;thickasthieves;nvm
858424;1412437998;ben_vulpes;costs 5% to put cash or coins into it?
858425;1412438005;Dimsler;correct
858426;1412438012;Dimsler;using any of the available wmz brokers etc.
858427;1412438030;Dimsler;btc-e uses a back bone of all the scam russian e-currencies to load in
858428;1412438040;Dimsler;bless them for operating and existing this long
858429;1412438041;ben_vulpes;lol this is a dark corner of the internet i have no truck with
858430;1412438075;thickasthieves;dimsler have you ever wd cash from btce?
858431;1412438086;thickasthieves;i keep asking and cant find anyone
858432;1412438094;Dimsler;i've done sepa from btc
858433;1412438095;Dimsler;e
858434;1412438097;Dimsler;and wmz
858435;1412438103;thickasthieves;how long ago
858436;1412438109;Dimsler;constantly
858437;1412438110;thickasthieves;word
858438;1412438123;Dimsler;i hedge my clients on there exchange
858439;1412438127;Dimsler;by picking up short contracts
858440;1412438161;kakobrekla;;;bc,stats
858441;1412438164;gribble;Current Blocks: 323803 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 772 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 1 hour, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34111908469.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.58539
858442;1412438184;Dimsler;my hope is that btc-e doesn't get ruined, the guy said he wants to keep the entire exchange out of the btc nerd limelight
858443;1412438240;thickasthieves;theyre doing something right
858444;1412438248;kakobrekla;you cant get destroyed by your users unless you have a faulty product
858445;1412438271;Dimsler;the actual operation is russian
858446;1412438289;Dimsler;they had to move out to bulgaria since the russians are derp on bitcoin
858447;1412438290;thickasthieves;seems they could be a target for AML problems
858448;1412438297;Dimsler;correct
858449;1412438320;Dimsler;best btc exchange are in non-oecd and non-us-extradition treaty areas
858450;1412438324;Dimsler;where no one really gives a shit
858451;1412438344;kakobrekla;bitstamp is the best
858452;1412438352;Dimsler;no bitstamp is not the best
858453;1412438362;kakobrekla;have you seen the css?
858454;1412438365;mircea_popescu; its been the most stable buisness in btc << nah, mpex is actually older.
858455;1412438369;Dimsler;try withdrawing 50k+ and see how bad they own you
858456;1412438382;kakobrekla;clearly has not seen the css.
858457;1412438383;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, i meant to add, that deal with usd exchange
858458;1412438415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.54245260 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 395 satoshi per share
858459;1412438423;Dimsler;kakobrekla, sorry no, i'm not familiar with what css means
858460;1412438431;thickasthieves;bitstamp is great for releasing btc though
858461;1412438440;mircea_popescu;" i hedge my clients on there exchange" << this will need some clarification.
858462;1412438457;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, if a client wants coins, before i deliver, i short on there exchange with mt4
858463;1412438460;Dimsler;to lock in there price
858464;1412438466;kakobrekla;Dimsler sorry my sarcasm engine is stuck on on.
858465;1412438471;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust Dimsler
858466;1412438471;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Dimsler!~dimsler@17.254.127.199.client.static.strong-in67.as13926.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Dimsler: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Dimsler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dimsler | Rated since: Tue Oct 22 13:51:07 2013
858467;1412438478;mircea_popescu;so where are these clients ?
858468;1412438491;kakobrekla;still, great css.
858469;1412438492;Dimsler;lol obviously not infront of a computer screen
858470;1412438511;mircea_popescu;so you deal btc in person in your geographical area and use btc-e to float the spot risk ?
858471;1412438513;Dimsler;else they would do it themselves
858472;1412438521;kakobrekla;!down kakobrekla stop it already
858473;1412438528;mircea_popescu;o.O
858474;1412438536;Dimsler;who else would allow you to do that
858475;1412438543;Dimsler;they offer 3:1 leverage
858476;1412438550;thickasthieves;bfx is 3.3:1
858477;1412438556;mircea_popescu;lol nm.
858478;1412438557;Dimsler;yes correct
858479;1412438576;mircea_popescu;anyway, btc-e has indeed been around for a long time, and no i don't know anything substantial against them, so.
858480;1412438581;Dimsler;bitfinex is also super decent
858481;1412438598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
858482;1412438610;mircea_popescu;they had the original altcoin premine scam,
858483;1412438626;Dimsler;yes they were given premined shares to list up those junk coins
858484;1412438630;mircea_popescu;that was scammy at the time but by now even the usg is doing it, so it seems to have been legalised ipso facto
858485;1412438641;thickasthieves;so with diff going down, is it time to scoop up mining contracts?
858486;1412438663;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves only with people who'll actually deliver. like say X-Rob here :p
858487;1412438668;Dimsler;neg
858488;1412438678;mircea_popescu;imagine this shit, the first time i actually buy a mining future contract, i actually get a great deal on it.
858489;1412438687;thickasthieves;heh
858490;1412438693;Dimsler;the time to pickup mining contracts is when the nerds are swinging from the rafters in there basements
858491;1412438720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00074528 = 10.1358 BTC [-]
858492;1412438729;kakobrekla;you also bought gigavps for etf
858493;1412438742;kakobrekla;or what was it
858494;1412438747;*;kakobrekla rains on parade
858495;1412438768;mircea_popescu;i suppose that should count too huh.
858496;1412438783;mircea_popescu;i dunno if i can mix being scammed with not being scammed but not making a profit.
858497;1412438791;kakobrekla;:p
858498;1412438795;Dimsler;lol
858499;1412438809;mircea_popescu;15.08.14 00:00 from admin
858500;1412438809;mircea_popescu;Dear participants of the BTC-e.com The cases of hacking accounts with the use of viruses disguised as trade bots, trading platform, and also subscription for mailout, from which you may catch a virus if you follow a link in it, became more frequent.
858501;1412438823;TheNewDeal;was giga selling mining contracts?
858502;1412438828;mircea_popescu;this guy thinks in posix lol
858503;1412438829;Dimsler;lol btc-e is hardcore targeted
858504;1412438839;Dimsler;they sit on tor exit nodes
858505;1412438841;Dimsler;sniffing packets
858506;1412438861;mircea_popescu;"Do you accept any alternate forms of payment such as Debit/Credit Cards?" that part is pretty win.
858507;1412438868;Dimsler;waiting for btc-e traffic to change withdrawl address'
858508;1412438920;mircea_popescu;so i gather you have a btc-e account and work as a broker ?
858509;1412438936;Dimsler;more of a hobby at this point
858510;1412438950;Dimsler;must pump the value of coins to swell my own
858511;1412438954;Dimsler;the bitcoin paradox
858512;1412438960;mircea_popescu;"Any undertaking carried out with Bitcoin (BTC) will begin immediately, though it may be up to 24 hours before it is reflected in your BTC-e account. BTC-e executes all account withdrawals right away or in 1-2 days."
858513;1412438966;mircea_popescu;lol "hey guise, we're mpex!1"
858514;1412438993;mircea_popescu;so then if you have a large stash of your own coin, why do you need to hedge on any website ?!
858515;1412439028;Dimsler;well wait a minute
858516;1412439034;Dimsler;why should i take on any form of exposure
858517;1412439049;Dimsler;when theres a service that does it for me on a nominal fee
858518;1412439052;mircea_popescu;inasmuch as you have a stash, you already took a form of exposure.
858519;1412439070;mircea_popescu;if you're looking to "pump to sell your own coins", the moment you found a buyer you sell and that';s it.
858520;1412439084;kakobrekla;;;ticker
858521;1412439087;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.0, Best ask: 341.42, Bid-ask spread: 0.42000, Last trade: 341.0, 24 hour volume: 22881.12349634, 24 hour low: 340.0, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
858522;1412439099;Dimsler;i think you're being eluded by context here
858523;1412439112;mircea_popescu;that'd be a new one.
858524;1412439139;Dimsler;nevermind what i'm personally doing with my coins
858525;1412439151;Dimsler;it has nothing to do with my arbitraging that i do as a side buisness
858526;1412439154;Dimsler;there is no correlation
858527;1412439172;mircea_popescu;well, you made the correlation, i'm just trying to follow.
858528;1412439175;mircea_popescu;are we cancelling it ?
858529;1412439188;Dimsler;yes because it was taken a tad bit out of context
858530;1412439218;Dimsler;as is it was an overall generalization of pumping bitcoins to future buyers
858531;1412439262;Dimsler;at todays price theres 400million worth of coin that needs to be bought up
858532;1412439264;mircea_popescu;mkay so the situation is that you have a btc-e account and work as a broker, but when i asked you the first time you figured it's a good moment to insert a pretense of significant holdings you don't actually hold, and in doing so inadvertently blew to bits your earlier description of your actual activity, which was up to that point correct.
858533;1412439266;Dimsler;this year
858534;1412439270;Dimsler;in order to keep the price up
858535;1412439351;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, there is no situation, lets stick to ambiguity and vaugness
858536;1412439477;mircea_popescu;mkay
858537;1412439482;thickasthieves;china plowing the price down
858538;1412439494;mircea_popescu;better than belgium.
858539;1412439501;thickasthieves;;;ticker
858540;1412439502;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.0, Best ask: 336.17, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 336.17, 24 hour volume: 23602.59468842, 24 hour low: 335.23, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
858541;1412439511;Dimsler;the price is being plowed down by the lack of fresh money
858542;1412439516;thickasthieves;yep
858543;1412439542;thickasthieves;need dat new blood
858544;1412439551;thickasthieves;keep the ponzi going
858545;1412439581;Dimsler;i've already explained that ages ago
858546;1412439583;Dimsler;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20iem7/the_bitcoin_network_costs_nearly_1_billion_a_year/
858547;1412439585;assbot;The Bitcoin network costs nearly $1 billion a year to run. : Bitcoin
858548;1412439589;Dimsler;you can catch my post here
858549;1412439596;punkman;so I rewrote deedbot basics, will work on supybot plugin soon
858550;1412439615;mircea_popescu;;;rated punkman
858551;1412439616;thickasthieves;i wonder if days like this make bitpay sweat
858552;1412439616;gribble;You rated user punkman on Fri May 16 09:11:15 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Talent scout and secret agent..
858553;1412439632;mircea_popescu;punkman my love for you is inflaming.
858554;1412439646;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves nah notrly.
858555;1412439670;punkman;working on electrum integration now
858556;1412439679;mircea_popescu;Dimsler how could one catch your post there, seeing how there's no dimsler ?
858557;1412439693;mircea_popescu;"I want to make this clear. This is not the result of a conspiracy or collusion. This is the outcome of flawed economic incentives and the reaction to them by participants. Hardware used to mine is irrelevant. The underlying rationale regarding distribution of newly created bitcoins is flawed."
858558;1412439698;mircea_popescu;lmao reddit entitlement derpage.
858559;1412439712;Dimsler;no
858560;1412439714;mircea_popescu;"it's flawed because the government should get it to give it to us why should some people get it to do whatever they feel like onoes"
858561;1412439731;mircea_popescu;"Contrary to popular belief, a rising bitcoin price ends up damaging liquidity instead of improving it. Miners are encouraged to cashout their huge gains by a rising price. This leads to volatility across the board via crashes. The volatility makes it too difficult to perform economic calculation in BTC."
858562;1412439739;mircea_popescu;fucktard. for one thing, it STABILIZES the price. which is good.
858563;1412439742;mircea_popescu;for the other, too hard ? fuck you.
858564;1412439757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HASH] 699 @ 0.00250001 = 1.7475 BTC [-] {4}
858565;1412439758;Dimsler;lol give me a break you have no idea what you're talking about
858566;1412439765;mircea_popescu;that would... also be a new one.
858567;1412439767;Dimsler;satoshi had no idea about economics
858568;1412439781;mircea_popescu;now how would you know that.
858569;1412439784;Dimsler;he fucking read murray rothbard and applied his idiotic quantitive theory of money
858570;1412439785;thickasthieves;at least panic sellers will still have their ETH
858571;1412439792;Dimsler;which has been debunked for ages
858572;1412439801;Dimsler;satoshi had no idea how to distribute new coins
858573;1412439817;kakobrekla;;;ticker
858574;1412439820;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.0, Best ask: 336.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 335.96, 24 hour volume: 23642.96240402, 24 hour low: 335.23, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
858575;1412439820;TheNewDeal;youre ridiculous
858576;1412439824;mircea_popescu;looky here. all this would make a lot more sense to you if you read the trilema explanation as to the difference of acting from a cause from acting towards a purpose.
858577;1412439831;mircea_popescu;you're trying to apply the acting towards a purpose approach, because that's all they teach anymore.
858578;1412439835;Dimsler;you have no idea about economics
858579;1412439838;mircea_popescu;but in fact, a number of people are not doing any of that.
858580;1412439844;mircea_popescu;simply acting from causes.
858581;1412439849;Dimsler;i've read some of your shit
858582;1412439851;Apocalyptic;for a guy that had no idea he made a pretty good job
858583;1412439852;Dimsler;it goes completely off tangent
858584;1412439859;Dimsler;with few merrits
858585;1412439861;TheNewDeal;"satoshi had no idea about cryptography, or computers for that matter" - dimsler
858586;1412439867;mircea_popescu;you at all familiar with the ancient art of hermeneutics, Dimsler ?
858587;1412439870;thickasthieves;dimsler mp is abstract but thats like half the joy of reading
858588;1412439875;thickasthieves;deciphering
858589;1412439882;thickasthieves;becuase,
858590;1412439884;Dimsler;lol i enjoy the abstract
858591;1412439887;thickasthieves;i learned this from trilema
858592;1412439887;thickasthieves;,
858593;1412439893;thickasthieves;translating is understanding
858594;1412439904;Dimsler;they are good reads
858595;1412439909;Dimsler;and i read the majority of them
858596;1412439921;thickasthieves;
858597;1412439923;Dimsler;but the logic isn't very sound in many of th eposted economic studies
858598;1412439934;mircea_popescu;ok. so then. satoshi didn't proceed towards this goal or that goal, as presumed by this or that purpose-built theory of economics.
858599;1412439946;Dimsler;listen
858600;1412439950;mircea_popescu;he proceeded from basic principle. and he, and a lot of other people, couldn't give less of a shit as to what the ultimate implications are.
858601;1412439952;Dimsler;bless satoshi
858602;1412439975;mircea_popescu;it's not that. i don't care about the man's memory or anything. im trying to explain a fundamental difference in approach.
858603;1412439989;thickasthieves;my main problem with arguments is when they proclaim ideals or extremes are achievable for more than a moment
858604;1412439996;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, the ultimate implications are going to stifle any form of adoption
858605;1412440006;mircea_popescu;now how do you know what's going to happen.
858606;1412440021;mircea_popescu;see, you're trapped in this particular worldview, which falsely promises you somewthing.
858607;1412440023;Dimsler;because history derp
858608;1412440034;Dimsler;quantitive money theory fails on any systems its been tried on
858609;1412440037;mircea_popescu;the way this promise goes is, "if you limit yourself to purpose-theory, you will have privileged access to ultimate effect"
858610;1412440054;mircea_popescu;this is false. you have no better access than the students of cause-theory, for very good thermodynamic reasons.
858611;1412440063;mircea_popescu;it's just that THEY do get to control your priors. you do not,
858612;1412440076;mircea_popescu;instead your priors are controled by the authors of your favourite purpose-theory.
858613;1412440085;mircea_popescu;which is why you imagine satoshi to be a rothbard tool.
858614;1412440101;mircea_popescu;because if he had been working in a purpose-theory approach, he would have been.
858615;1412440110;mircea_popescu;but then again, the proposition that he was is easily falsifiable.
858616;1412440114;Dimsler;listen don't spin me the arguement here with preppy 101 vocubulary and euphamisms
858617;1412440135;mircea_popescu;that would... ALSO be a new one.
858618;1412440243;TheNewDeal;just curious - is it a common practice in any part of the world to brew coffee with snuff?
858619;1412440244;mircea_popescu;but as a total aside : the quality of your arguments exceeds the quality of your expression, significantly. that means you're smarter than you're read, which is unfortunate. you definitely should read up on and master all that "preppy 101 vocabulary", it's not the waste of time inept pseudo-teachers and pretend-authorities have made it seem.
858620;1412440257;thickasthieves;dimsler rides the line between enjoyable conversation and troll
858621;1412440270;mircea_popescu;guy is smart and short fused.
858622;1412440294;Dimsler;fuck i need some coffee
858623;1412440296;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal not afaik. seems a us marketing invention.
858624;1412440309;mircea_popescu;if you mean snuff=chewing tobacco
858625;1412440312;TheNewDeal;yes
858626;1412440314;mircea_popescu;or w/e, insuflating
858627;1412440346;kakobrekla;id say thats even worse than smoking
858628;1412440423;kakobrekla;tobacco water is used as pesticide
858629;1412440427;kakobrekla;i wouldnt drink it.
858630;1412440447;TheNewDeal;how about coffee and liquor? I've heard of many people proposing it, but rare to see it happen in practice
858631;1412440469;mircea_popescu;you kidding ?
858632;1412440471;mircea_popescu;that's common.
858633;1412440577;thickasthieves;waste of booze imo
858634;1412440578;kakobrekla;dunno what is your point, but if you want to kill yourself or just want a ruined coffee, there are better ways
858635;1412440602;TheNewDeal;Is there a specific flavor that's preferred - i.e. brandy?
858636;1412440602;TheNewDeal;The tobacco was merely a joke
858637;1412440605;ben_vulpes;caffeine and alcohol is a glorious combination
858638;1412440612;ben_vulpes;also cocaine and alcohol
858639;1412440629;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you can lket coffee grinds sit in alcohol then add sugar, just like anything else.
858640;1412440630;mircea_popescu;cocoa, too.
858641;1412440634;mircea_popescu;chicks dig it.
858642;1412440642;TheNewDeal;Most popular addition I've seen is Baileys, which is basically a flavored creamer you would find at a gas station + small amount of alcohol
858643;1412440655;thickasthieves;a roommate once put coke in a joint
858644;1412440669;TheNewDeal;seems like a waste of cannabis imo
858645;1412440677;TheNewDeal;to each his own
858646;1412440678;kakobrekla;;;ticker
858647;1412440680;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.12, Best ask: 332.75, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 329.15, 24 hour volume: 23585.18803595, 24 hour low: 329.15, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
858648;1412440685;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal liquor is made quite simply : triple alcohol (198 proof or w/e) added to X item of your choice, let sit for a few months. then cut it.
858649;1412440685;thickasthieves;i said "once" :)
858650;1412440690;mircea_popescu;water, milk, fresh coffee, w/e
858651;1412440714;kakobrekla;this stops at 0, right? .... right guys?
858652;1412440719;ben_vulpes; kakobrekla you can lket coffee grinds sit in alcohol then add sugar, just like anything else. << o fuck the things i learn here
858653;1412440719;asciilifeform;mamushi liquor.
858654;1412440728;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla no you will owe the internet dollars when this is all done
858655;1412440736;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform mail omg!!11
858656;1412440737;TheNewDeal;I don't believe the price of bitcoin can go negative, alas I'm not an economics expert
858657;1412440747;kakobrekla;on bitstamp only
858658;1412440755;*;ben_vulpes boggles at the notion of negatively priced btc
858659;1412440756;TheNewDeal;or mt cox
858660;1412440761;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: yes, i'm awake, on it.
858661;1412440785;mircea_popescu;http://www.cosmicbuddha.com/adam/archives/000341.html re mamushi
858662;1412440786;assbot;The Presidental Erection (Higo Blog)
858663;1412440817;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes it's been known to happen. that's the textbook definition of dekulakization btw : make an asset go negative value in the open market.
858664;1412440835;mircea_popescu;like currently, working for the usg is a positive value. you get health insurance, a salary, etc.
858665;1412440846;mircea_popescu;in a few years, it's a negative value. you get tortured.
858666;1412440850;mircea_popescu;point in case.
858667;1412440856;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, i like a simple conversation amongst people i share common interests with
858668;1412440872;mircea_popescu;yeah but most things worth talking about can't be discussed in simple terms.
858669;1412440912;mircea_popescu;so the practical choice is either "how you doing" "Great! and you ?" "also great" "oh, great!" or else the midnight oil.
858670;1412441002;ben_vulpes;http://online.wsj.com/articles/california-governor-vetoes-bill-requiring-warrants-for-drone-surveillance-1412007285
858671;1412441002;assbot;California Governor Vetoes Bill Requiring Warrants for Drone Surveillance - WSJ
858672;1412441206;mircea_popescu;who's zenithquinn lol
858673;1412441286;TheNewDeal;;;ticker
858674;1412441288;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.0, Best ask: 339.76, Bid-ask spread: 1.76000, Last trade: 339.76, 24 hour volume: 25149.13037167, 24 hour low: 325.67, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
858675;1412441417;mircea_popescu;http://www.zenithquinn.com/ << so this dude has managed to write a whole site which loads... nothing at all.
858676;1412441418;assbot;Zenith Quinn Animations - Art - Videos
858677;1412441429;mircea_popescu;if anyone can get trhough to a contact or something, tell him to drop by
858678;1412441459;TheNewDeal;;;ticker -all
858679;1412441459;mircea_popescu;punkman: there goes my 350 bet <<< aw shucks!
858680;1412441459;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
858681;1412441460;Dimsler;maybe thats the premise for humanity
858682;1412441463;mircea_popescu;300 next ? 250 ? 100 ?
858683;1412441468;TheNewDeal;400
858684;1412441468;Dimsler;in the end its nothingness
858685;1412441499;Dimsler;whens the next reward halving again?
858686;1412441520;punkman;;;halfreward
858687;1412441521;gribble;Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Aug 2 17:11:59 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
858688;1412441534;mircea_popescu;coupla years out
858689;1412441583;TheNewDeal;1.43 ;)
858690;1412441602;mircea_popescu;;;calc 43/52
858691;1412441603;gribble;0.826923076923
858692;1412441608;mircea_popescu;1.82
858693;1412441623;Dimsler;i think at 250 theres going to a miner bust out
858694;1412441624;TheNewDeal;un chiste
858695;1412441626;Dimsler;or liquidation
858696;1412441649;Dimsler;especially if it carries through for a few months
858697;1412441652;TheNewDeal;already seems like some miner hesitation at sub 400
858698;1412441934;mircea_popescu;definiotely most of the midrange and plenty of the larger mining outfits have just about zero contingency and financial planning in place
858699;1412441950;mircea_popescu;so yeah, if it goes too low for too long they'll be dropping like flies
858700;1412442070;The20YearIRCloud;That absolutely shocks me
858701;1412442079;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes check it out, you ddosed justitia.com
858702;1412442081;mircea_popescu;https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html
858703;1412442082;assbot;Perry v. United States :: 294 U.S. 330 (1935) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
858704;1412442091;mircea_popescu;o.O
858705;1412442095;mircea_popescu;i r banned ?!
858706;1412442112;mircea_popescu;hm looks like just a glitch. nm.
858707;1412442112;ben_vulpes;looks like it
858708;1412442122;thickasthieves;bfx swaps at all time high
858709;1412442130;thickasthieves;12358btc shorted
858710;1412442145;mircea_popescu;that's all ?!
858711;1412442155;mircea_popescu;wasn't that thing supposed to be like huge and shit ?
858712;1412442167;thickasthieves;;;market buy 12000
858713;1412442168;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 12000 bitcoins right now would take 5392647.4421 USD and would take the last price up to 596.8700 USD, resulting in an average price of 449.3873 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0393 seconds
858714;1412442179;mircea_popescu;o wait, i forgot, the wash trading sort of huge. a trillion just as long as it's done in 100 increments. nm me.
858715;1412442194;thickasthieves;bfx is not a volume leader anymore
858716;1412442198;thickasthieves;its china remember
858717;1412442200;thickasthieves;:)
858718;1412442208;thickasthieves;okcoin
858719;1412442257;mircea_popescu;so bitcoincharts.com died yest or what.
858720;1412442302;thickasthieves;they dont list okcoin
858721;1412442305;thickasthieves;interesting
858722;1412442323;thickasthieves;nor huobi
858723;1412442415;dignork;thickasthieves: bitcointicker.co lists huobi
858724;1412442441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00074936 = 1.0866 BTC [+]
858725;1412442503;punkman;here you go http://btckan.com/price
858726;1412442619;thickasthieves;lol look at 796 futures
858727;1412442625;thickasthieves;i think they do 10:1 margin
858728;1412442650;thickasthieves;322000btc volume
858729;1412442657;thickasthieves;24h
858730;1412442736;thickasthieves;thats healthy
858731;1412442742;mircea_popescu;lol
858732;1412442769;mircea_popescu;nobody ever heard of them or dealt with them, but sure, 300k bitcoin.
858733;1412442794;The20YearIRCloud;heh
858734;1412442855;mircea_popescu;i imagine all over egypt/albania/kyrgiztan/whatever, in all sorts of small rural hamlets with a single internet lifeline, all sorts of adolescent boys are pretending like they got the millionz of btc
858735;1412443064;The20YearIRCloud;Yeah
858736;1412443070;The20YearIRCloud;anything fun attracts those types
858737;1412443274;The20YearIRCloud;It's amazing how people value things - I was at a property auction, house was worth $45k , i wanted it for $35k, and people bid it to $55k due to ego
858738;1412443274;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
858739;1412443311;mircea_popescu;or maybe due to wanting it ?
858740;1412443478;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23488 @ 0.00074945 = 17.6031 BTC [+]
858741;1412443639;The20YearIRCloud;Quite possibly, however from my standpoint there wasn't anything special with it. Heck there's a home right next to it for sale they could of got for less with the same features
858742;1412443712;mircea_popescu;for all you know this one had ten pounds of gold coins burried in the back yard.
858743;1412443939;The20YearIRCloud;So why's btc around 335 today?
858744;1412443975;mircea_popescu;ongoing pricewarz
858745;1412444008;thickasthieves;recalibrating
858746;1412444027;thickasthieves;too many of the wrong people had coins
858747;1412444393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19706 @ 0.00074871 = 14.7541 BTC [-] {2}
858748;1412444456;mircea_popescu;!up hatchmo
858749;1412444611;mircea_popescu;it occurs to me that the web2.0 replacement of / with is one of the most idiotic things ever done
858750;1412444617;mircea_popescu;that thng looks like a + on a small scale.
858751;1412444658;mircea_popescu;why this constant braindamnged need to "improve" by ruining everything
858752;1412444675;Dimsler;LOL
858753;1412444699;thickasthieves;back to the caves i say!
858754;1412444817;hatchmo;what do you guys think of circle?
858755;1412444854;thickasthieves;horrible interface
858756;1412444859;Dimsler;unsustainable
858757;1412444911;hatchmo;because of the lack of direct transaction fees?
858758;1412445034;dignork;hatchmo: their sell/buy rates are equal?
858759;1412445055;thickasthieves;well the only thing of value they provide is a connection to banks, right?
858760;1412445072;dignork;but so is coinbase
858761;1412445084;thickasthieves;coinbase is at least getting their 1%
858762;1412445103;thickasthieves;something has to give
858763;1412445123;TheNewDeal;coinbase gets much more than 1%
858764;1412445125;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26473 @ 0.00074961 = 19.8444 BTC [+] {2}
858765;1412445160;TheNewDeal;they deliver 5 business days after, which basically turns into an option priced in at 1% above current price, 4 days out
858766;1412445186;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00074969 = 2.7296 BTC [+]
858767;1412445563;hatchmo;you can buy instantly on coinbase TheNewDeal
858768;1412445596;TheNewDeal;thought that was for an increased fee
858769;1412445646;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-september-2014-statement/
858770;1412445690;hatchmo;you have to provide a credit card TheNewDeal
858771;1412445919;mircea_popescu;hatchmo http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=D.CIFI
858772;1412445919;assbot;D.CIFI last @0.00000000
858773;1412445987;hatchmo;what is dcifi?
858774;1412446042;mircea_popescu;circle synthetic equivalent.
858775;1412446273;mircea_popescu;;;seen DanielKrawisz
858776;1412446273;gribble;DanielKrawisz was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: No, why?
858777;1412446277;mircea_popescu;;;later tell DanielKrawisz http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ << this 2012 article, of course.
858778;1412446280;assbot;The politics of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
858779;1412446280;gribble;The operation succeeded.
858780;1412446592;mircea_popescu;!up GodHatesFigs
858781;1412447004;GodHatesFigs;buying all dem bargain bitcoins
858782;1412447082;mod6;i had a dream last night that it went down to $6 again, and i tried to back up a truck
858783;1412447206;GodHatesFigs;$6; $335 - it's all the same :)
858784;1412447222;mircea_popescu;and then you bought 30k's worth and it was back to 1200 ?
858785;1412447328;mod6;higher. :)
858786;1412447336;mod6;x10
858787;1412447423;mircea_popescu;lol
858788;1412447605;mod6;eep! host laaaag
858789;1412447702;mod6;well, it reconnected in #altcoin, i should merge that change.
858790;1412448114;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00074786 = 6.4316 BTC [-] {2}
858791;1412448480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-]
858792;1412449922;kakobrekla;so thickasthieves did you start pasting the 300 bet around yet?
858793;1412449966;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
858794;1412449967;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 337.43, Best ask: 338.55, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 337.65, 24 hour volume: 26940.07119603, 24 hour low: 325.67, 24 hour high: 367.1, 24 hour vwap: 0
858795;1412449973;mircea_popescu;lol i thought it crossed.
858796;1412450094;mircea_popescu;"Busco mujeres para fotos artisticas en Buenos Aires.
858797;1412450094;mircea_popescu;Fotos de desnudos, fotos color & blanco y negro.
858798;1412450094;mircea_popescu;Mujeres jovenes. Cualquier tipo de cabello, color de piel y ojos. Con ganas de modelar para fotos artisticas cuidadas.
858799;1412450094;mircea_popescu;A cambio puedo ofrecerte copia de las fotos para tu propio book. Si estas interesada enviame un mail con una foto tuya a color y mail o telefono para contactarme.
858800;1412450095;mircea_popescu;NO ES PAGO. ES POR CANJE DE FOTOS POR MODELAJE"
858801;1412450105;mircea_popescu;this is the fucking competition lmao. free modelling for art!!1
858802;1412450595;thickasthieves;i didnt see the 300 bet
858803;1412450746;thickasthieves;i linked it :)
858804;1412450785;thickasthieves;i'll be rolling is referral satoshis! mwoohahaha
858805;1412450887;thickasthieves;i was thinking not very hard about whether the fact that it costs 5% to get money into btce is actually a sound reason for BTCUSD to be 5% cheaper there
858806;1412450926;thickasthieves;i dont think most markets factor in fees so efficiently
858807;1412450943;thickasthieves;or am i missing something
858808;1412450982;mircea_popescu;if it's a sellers market
858809;1412450993;mircea_popescu;otherwise, it should conceivably be 5% more expensive.
858810;1412451071;jurov;lol i'm scanning a bunch of stuff and noticed my household insurance specifically excludes "caused by improper date calculation by computer"
858811;1412451091;thickasthieves;y2k!
858812;1412451139;jurov;"i had a fire in my flat" "twas improper date calculation, gtfo"
858813;1412451167;mircea_popescu;lmao y2k left over.
858814;1412451202;thickasthieves;probly just avoiding trolls
858815;1412451269;jurov;how would that help against trolls?
858816;1412451310;jurov;they are trolls. i fully expect, if my washmachine causes a flood, them to ask if it has a microcontroller
858817;1412451347;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13126 @ 0.00074781 = 9.8158 BTC [-]
858818;1412451453;thickasthieves;i assume one asshole says y2k made my pc catch fire
858819;1412451459;thickasthieves;and theyre like uh no fuck this
858820;1412451602;thickasthieves;but who knows
858821;1412451630;jurov;how it is different from pc catching fire from faulty physical component?
858822;1412451661;jurov;afaik such case *is* covered
858823;1412451678;thickasthieves;i dont do insurance, but maybe there are aspects that can be your fault
858824;1412451699;thickasthieves;like overclocking
858825;1412451703;thickasthieves;no idea
858826;1412451753;jurov;yes, that's another thing, if they come to suspect OC
858827;1412452506;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20148 @ 0.00074892 = 15.0892 BTC [+] {2}
858828;1412453141;thickasthieves;;;ticker
858829;1412453143;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 324.19, Best ask: 324.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 324.19, 24 hour volume: 27940.04199331, 24 hour low: 323.0, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
858830;1412453299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.0007453 = 9.8752 BTC [-]
858831;1412453482;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0007453 = 1.8633 BTC [-]
858832;1412453728;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this month's turd is mailed.
858833;1412453829;mircea_popescu;win.
858834;1412453833;jurov;heh turd
858835;1412453896;asciilifeform;i haven't, surprisingly, received any hate mail re: the lameness; must assume it's going to mircea_popescu's dev/null
858836;1412453909;mircea_popescu;no pics ? i was promised pix!
858837;1412453920;asciilifeform;shot the pics wad here
858838;1412453935;*;asciilifeform can always take more
858839;1412453942;mircea_popescu;link ?
858840;1412453953;asciilifeform;!s rotor
858841;1412453954;assbot;21 results for 'rotor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rotor
858842;1412453970;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855068
858843;1412453972;assbot;Logged on 02-10-2014 12:48:37; assbot: vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
858844;1412453980;jurov;and that gold...er... brass nozzle or whatever
858845;1412453988;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855251
858846;1412453988;assbot;Logged on 02-10-2014 13:44:16; assbot: Making vacuum rotor ('Sherline' micro-lathe) - YouTube
858847;1412454022;*;asciilifeform regressed mostly to 18th c., at least temporarily
858848;1412454042;mircea_popescu;lol. danke.
858849;1412454042;*;jurov goes to troll reddit "S.NSA is machining stuff from gold"
858850;1412454064;mircea_popescu;this is kinda an idea... maybe we should open a line of hand machined slave collars and other items
858851;1412454068;asciilifeform;lol!
858852;1412454085;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform dja feel like making hardware ? :D
858853;1412454086;asciilifeform;paging ben_vulpes!
858854;1412454095;asciilifeform;^ he has an adult lathe i think
858855;1412454118;*;asciilifeform can make collars. for guinea pigs, rats, iguana...
858856;1412454128;asciilifeform;3 inch spindle.
858857;1412454148;mircea_popescu;cockrings, clearly.
858858;1412454151;asciilifeform;aha!
858859;1412454153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00074528 = 9.5396 BTC [-] {2}
858860;1412454160;jurov;hue
858861;1412454199;*;asciilifeform now wonders if a cock ring is generally a shaft-collar or set-screw
858862;1412454212;asciilifeform;*clamp-collar
858863;1412454240;asciilifeform;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft_collar << for folks in the jungle
858864;1412454240;assbot;Shaft collar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
858865;1412454295;jurov;TIL cockring with set screw..eww..
858866;1412454351;mircea_popescu;so here's a random idea. x.org and pretty much every implementation of a gui on linux does a pisspoor job of hiding kbd from any running program. ie, you can trivially read keystrokes typed in any window from any other window. on the other hand js stuff like .which and .keycode allows a website to read the kbd pretty well.
858867;1412454369;mircea_popescu;so... how hard can it be.
858868;1412454378;asciilifeform;first decide which 'it'
858869;1412454399;jurov;use gtk_pinentry for everything?
858870;1412454408;mircea_popescu;some it or other.
858871;1412454427;mircea_popescu;jurov what'd gtk_pinentry do ?
858872;1412454449;jurov;if you ever used gpg under X
858873;1412454459;jurov;it pops up and monopolizes keyboard
858874;1412454466;mircea_popescu;does it actually ?
858875;1412454496;jurov;let me try
858876;1412454505;*;mircea_popescu at edge of seat.
858877;1412454559;*;asciilifeform doesn't like dedicated 'user is entering passwords' api gizmos - demarcated target.
858878;1412454596;jurov;only a quickie with xev
858879;1412454614;jurov;when pinentry was active, i was unable to get kbd events into xev
858880;1412454629;jurov;not that proves anything, just a concet how it works
858881;1412454633;mircea_popescu;that's something.
858882;1412454635;mircea_popescu;http://dmauro.github.io/Keypress/ < btw.
858883;1412454635;assbot;Keypress: A Javascript library for capturing input
858884;1412454662;mircea_popescu;course i have nfi why xorg was made so windowsy in the first place.
858885;1412454702;jurov;what do you mean?
858886;1412454711;jurov;xorg is quite far from windowsy
858887;1412454725;jurov;just the toolkits are
858888;1412454746;jurov;and if you mean security, well...1980s
858889;1412454749;mircea_popescu;specifically the kbd issue
858890;1412454806;assbot;ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
858891;1412454835;kakobrekla;!up ninjashogun i do what iwant
858892;1412454850;asciilifeform;masochism-lol
858893;1412454862;jurov;hi ninjashogun, our resident security expert
858894;1412454873;jurov;so what do you think about this xorg problem?
858895;1412454881;ninjashogun;Thanks. Does someone who has gribble with the proper distance want to trust me to whatever extent is required for an up. Ascii has complained about the volume of contribution, so I will keep it down. (obvoiusly you can remove this rating if you find I'm abusive.)
858896;1412454930;thickasthieves;i doubt anyone here wants you roaming freely
858897;1412454930;ninjashogun;jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder, not a security expert per se (besides a good theoretical understanding and some practical reading same as avialable to everyone here.) Not an xorg expert!
858898;1412454943;The20YearIRCloud;i hate having all this BTC sitting and not being cashed out
858899;1412454958;kakobrekla;delete the wallet
858900;1412454962;The20YearIRCloud;we've lost something like $75k-$100k over the past year and a half due to volatility and the inability to cash out our deposits quickly
858901;1412454966;thickasthieves;well a little late to cash out probly
858902;1412454975;jurov;The20YearIRCloud, do it rapeghost way: pay dividends
858903;1412454990;The20YearIRCloud;rapeghost?
858904;1412455000;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform can i have original of that video ?
858905;1412455008;jurov;alias rg.. prolly before your time
858906;1412455009;mircea_popescu;i intend to gif-ify it to test the saffron chick's thing.
858907;1412455021;mircea_popescu;dude this guy again ?
858908;1412455032;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 1sec
858909;1412455039;ninjashogun;Incidentally if it is on-topic here I am curious about the opinion of people here about 1) cause of BTC price depression 2) whether BTC price will rebound. Where will the buy pressure come from, given that there are other crypto currencies as well?
858910;1412455049;asciilifeform;!s waterfall
858911;1412455050;assbot;21 results for 'waterfall' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=waterfall
858912;1412455067;kakobrekla; we've lost something like $75k-$100k over the past year and a half due to volatility and the inability to cash out our deposits quickly < handy excuse
858913;1412455067;*;asciilifeform favours that hypothesis, cannot speak for other people
858914;1412455072;xanthyos;hi
858915;1412455075;thickasthieves;ninjashogun, I will allow the price to start going up again tomorrow
858916;1412455087;jurov;ninjashogun,. it will come from dogecoin and from angel whales
858917;1412455094;jurov;!s angel whale
858918;1412455095;assbot;3 results for 'angel whale' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=angel+whale
858919;1412455105;kakobrekla;!s angel whale fishes
858920;1412455105;assbot;1 results for 'angel whale fishes' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=angel+whale+fishes
858921;1412455115;xanthyos;my psychic premonition about 360 $/btc being the absolute glass floor were not true
858922;1412455118;The20YearIRCloud;excuse for what?
858923;1412455130;kakobrekla;for vaporizing 100k
858924;1412455140;The20YearIRCloud;I just hate the equity loss being that bad
858925;1412455155;thickasthieves;then why did you take the risk
858926;1412455166;The20YearIRCloud;guess i don't understand how a large-ish business that takes BTC and runs into the asme cashout problems as us could operate with it
858927;1412455168;ninjashogun;What I mean is that long-term, if BTC held a monopoly on crypto currency my price target would be $300K per bitcoin. (Simply because that is required for the amount of crypto currency the world has a money supply demand.) But the problem is that other crypto currencies can meet some of this demand. So, is that some of the reason for the decline? If it is, what will cause the rebound?
858928;1412455183;xanthyos;"Risk is our business." (James Tiberius Kirk)
858929;1412455184;mircea_popescu;dude stop positing idiocy.
858930;1412455190;mircea_popescu;no "other cryptocurrencies" exist.
858931;1412455193;jurov;how did you calculate the demand?
858932;1412455195;The20YearIRCloud;There's 1000 other cryptos out there ninjashogun
858933;1412455201;mircea_popescu;no such can ever exist, no such will ever exist. no such has met any demand, nor could, nor wil.
858934;1412455202;ninjashogun;mircea_popescu, "no other cryptocurrencies exist", um?
858935;1412455206;mircea_popescu;no um.
858936;1412455216;mircea_popescu;and for that matter : you're not a startup anything, especially not a founder.
858937;1412455218;The20YearIRCloud;http://coinmarketcap.com/
858938;1412455218;assbot;Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations
858939;1412455234;thickasthieves;those are games not coins
858940;1412455247;thickasthieves;and altcoin already has those sewn up
858941;1412455249;kakobrekla;hey my buttcoin poster sez buttcoin is game
858942;1412455252;mircea_popescu;and you do not have understanding, theoretical or otherwise, on any topic, and specifically no good such understanding.
858943;1412455264;mircea_popescu;now that we're settled on most of these topics, did you have anything meaningful to say ?
858944;1412455267;ninjashogun;mircea_popescu, Oh, uh (wink) right. You are right that there are no other crypto currencies besides btc, I will grant this to you. It is ridiculous to assume any other crypto currency can ever come into existence.
858945;1412455275;mircea_popescu;goof.
858946;1412455277;jurov;aww y'all are so demeaning to these serious altbusinesses
858947;1412455279;mircea_popescu;!down ninjashogun
858948;1412455287;mircea_popescu;good*.
858949;1412455288;*;thickasthieves cheers
858950;1412455291;jurov;i'm more interested in that demand caluculation
858951;1412455304;jurov;did it involve a rectum?
858952;1412455314;mircea_popescu;we've sunk to the lows where kako trolls the channel. i know of no other place where the actual chan owner trolls the chan
858953;1412455318;mircea_popescu;except, of course, for something awful.
858954;1412455324;jurov;oh you finished him :(
858955;1412455327;kakobrekla;:(
858956;1412455343;xanthyos;all tissues are called "kleenex." all cola is called "coke." all photocopies are called "xerox." btc WON the cryto branding game
858957;1412455358;kakobrekla;imm prolly usg covert
858958;1412455364;The20YearIRCloud;how do you calculate coin demand jurov
858959;1412455366;mircea_popescu;no dude, doge is "covering some of that demand"
858960;1412455370;xanthyos;crypto*
858961;1412455373;mircea_popescu;because a buncha fuctarded kids derping are "the demand" now
858962;1412455375;thickasthieves;<+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
858963;1412455403;jurov;no i wanted to know his calcualtion
858964;1412455424;The20YearIRCloud;ah
858965;1412455426;jurov;required for the amount of crypto currency the world has a money supply demand
858966;1412455438;mircea_popescu;$rand
858967;1412455486;The20YearIRCloud;So it's assumed there's a 100% adpotion rate
858968;1412455495;mircea_popescu;contorted fucking reasoning, such as, "mp said once that the endgame for bitcoin is this. now, let's maintain that figure but pretend like mp wasn't talking about btc, but about geese. so then a goose should be 300k usd per, and since it's not, clearly iron nails are taking up some of that market"
858969;1412455509;mircea_popescu;"so give me 50k and i might buy iron nails which might be worth more in the future"
858970;1412455544;mircea_popescu;let's call it... "a facultative idea" or whatever the fuck it was.
858971;1412455589;mircea_popescu;!s "discretionary project"
858972;1412455589;assbot;5 results for '"discretionary project"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22discretionary+project%22
858973;1412455617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20739 @ 0.00074929 = 15.5395 BTC [+] {2}
858974;1412455682;kakobrekla; <+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
858975;1412455684;kakobrekla;its not price
858976;1412455688;kakobrekla;not even the published mkt cap
858977;1412455693;kakobrekla;cause its bogus
858978;1412455729;mircea_popescu;you don't really calculate it, is the problem.
858979;1412455942;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://64.85.171.71/lathe.mov
858980;1412455967;mircea_popescu;danke
858981;1412455973;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.75 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 72(Y):28(N) by coin, 54(Y):46(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.48725376 BTC. Current weight: 33,226.
858982;1412456129;mircea_popescu;!s from:mircea_popescu pretty slick
858983;1412456130;assbot;1 results for 'from:mircea_popescu pretty slick' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+pretty+slick
858984;1412456135;mircea_popescu;HA!
858985;1412456255;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
858986;1412456256;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.14, Best ask: 332.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 332.94, 24 hour volume: 28533.28413378, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
858987;1412456402;mircea_popescu;Sorry! Gfy's are 15 seconds max! This video is 86.00 seconds. Think simple, jiffy, and captivating!
858988;1412456403;mircea_popescu;awww!
858989;1412456411;mircea_popescu;!up CryptoGoon
858990;1412456430;CryptoGoon;Hi
858991;1412456433;CryptoGoon;Lol
858992;1412456444;mircea_popescu;ello
858993;1412456472;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i can convert...
858994;1412456558;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if you can cut a good <15s spot i'd like it
858995;1412456572;mircea_popescu;if not ima just ul the 86s thing as is.
858996;1412456577;asciilifeform;1sec
858997;1412456725;jurov;i got into PM with ninjashogun and last thing before i lost it was
858998;1412456728;mircea_popescu;"But the file size is so high. Anyway to reduce the file size without compramising quality. My video file mostly contains texts " << idiot on stack exchange.
858999;1412456730;jurov; we don't have to discuss that. But you have to realize that the files aren't considered private/secret, if the usage case includes signing at public computers
859000;1412456739;mircea_popescu;definitely, the format for "texts" is video x.x
859001;1412456748;jurov;"signing at public computers"
859002;1412456795;mircea_popescu;guy lives in his own space.
859003;1412456816;kakobrekla;singing at public computer
859004;1412456826;kakobrekla;i have done that, even in front of public people
859005;1412456856;mircea_popescu;i used to drink public water
859006;1412456957;mats_cd03;so when will there be preorders for a cardano?
859007;1412456957;mats_cd03;or is that not going to be a thing.
859008;1412456959;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3S8VR5T.txt )
859009;1412456959;jurov;!bash 3
859010;1412456965;mats_cd03;=[
859011;1412457049;mircea_popescu;well once asciilifeform is done building his own city over there...
859012;1412457073;*;asciilifeform never grokked point of preorders. selling gizmos you don't have in stock ~= sc4mz0r1ng
859013;1412457129;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: which 15 seconds would you like?
859014;1412457132;asciilifeform;it converts fine here
859015;1412457165;mircea_popescu;i dunno
859016;1412457169;asciilifeform;i can even stuff the whole thing in a gif.
859017;1412457183;mircea_popescu;yeah but what size gif ?
859018;1412457207;asciilifeform;a very heavy one.
859019;1412457304;mircea_popescu;listen i just made it into a 30mb avi, it'kll be good enuff
859020;1412457348;asciilifeform;hah it worked
859021;1412457386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12583 @ 0.00074461 = 9.3694 BTC [-]
859022;1412457401;asciilifeform;5meg ~= 1st 20 sec.
859023;1412457445;asciilifeform;http://64.85.171.71/lathe_anim.gif
859024;1412457452;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/
859025;1412457453;assbot;No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
859026;1412457474;mircea_popescu;that's a nice convertor, what is it ?
859027;1412457477;asciilifeform;nm off by decimal place
859028;1412457478;asciilifeform;50m
859029;1412457481;asciilifeform;fuggedaboutit
859030;1412457487;asciilifeform;ffmpeg
859031;1412457493;mircea_popescu;sweet.
859032;1412457497;asciilifeform;bog-standard.
859033;1412457523;asciilifeform;(all 50m uploaded in case anyone wants this for something, can't picture why)
859034;1412457625;jurov;in 200years it will be reenacted religiously every sunday
859035;1412457641;mircea_popescu;haha
859036;1412457657;mircea_popescu;a lathing church, now that'd be something
859037;1412457658;*;asciilifeform actually recalls some sf universe with religion involving lathes, but can't put finger on precisely where
859038;1412457917;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
859039;1412457919;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.76, Best ask: 331.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 28406.61823679, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
859040;1412458486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6891 @ 0.00074601 = 5.1408 BTC [+]
859041;1412458550;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/
859042;1412458624;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.15235445 BTC. Current weight: 25,299.
859043;1412459305;decimation;amusing http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/536/the-secret-recordings-of-carmen-segarra << some derpy latina with moxy joins the fed, is assigned to goldman, and is shocked to discover that the fed is composed of spineless twerps
859044;1412459306;assbot;The Secret Recordings of Carmen Segarra | This American Life
859045;1412459344;mircea_popescu;what's moxy
859046;1412459359;asciilifeform;chutzpah ?
859047;1412459415;decimation;;;ud moxie
859048;1412459415;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moxie | Moxie (mok'see)n. Something or someone posessing the attribute of "coolness" or having "balls." The next word most likely to be stolen by Paris Hilton and then ...
859049;1412459443;mircea_popescu;ah moxie
859050;1412459452;mircea_popescu;so basically, private manning of the nyfed ?
859051;1412459476;mats_cd03;asciilifeform: ah well, see it as a perk of the faith people have in your ability to deliver.
859052;1412459484;mircea_popescu;hey, at least they're regulating bitcoin. because that's a safe move :D
859053;1412459508;asciilifeform;mats_cd03: which 'it' ?
859054;1412459515;asciilifeform;mats_cd03: (i must've missed something)
859055;1412459525;decimation;she released 'secret tapes' of her conversations with other fed employees & goldman
859056;1412459555;mats_cd03;asciilifeform: preorders.
859057;1412459561;asciilifeform;aha
859058;1412459583;*;asciilifeform (re: tapes) immediately shrugs, 'the goodstuff, if any, must've been snipped, ...' etc.
859059;1412459584;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00074457 = 13.3278 BTC [-] {2}
859060;1412459626;decimation;One episode - her boss "Mike Silva" was about to go to a meeting where Goldman was going to buy the shady assets of a Spanish bank - and it required the Fed's "no objection" "And one of the things that caught Carmen’s eye was a short paragraph that the banks had written into the agreement. It said that Goldman had to notify the Fed about the Santander deal and obtain a quote,“no objection.""
859061;1412459647;asciilifeform;and a nailgun is being oiled somewhere (assuming whole thing isn't a hangout)
859062;1412459694;decimation;"Mike Silva: My own personal thinking right now is that we’re looking at a transaction that’s legal but shady. I want to put a big shot across their bow on that. Poking at it, maybe we find something even shadier than we already know. So let’s poke at this thing, let’s poke at it with our usual poker faces, you know. I’d like these guys to come away from this meeting confused as to what we think about it. I want to keep
859063;1412459696;decimation;thennervous."
859064;1412459759;thickasthieves;i listened to the npr thing, honestly the soundbytes didnt seem that bad
859065;1412459775;thickasthieves;i can see how capture is a problem though
859066;1412459777;decimation;Later in the meeting with Goldman, here's his "poking to make them nervous": "Mike Silva Just to button up one point. I know the term sheet called for a notice to your regulator. The original term sheet also called for expression of non-objection, sounds like that dropped out at some point, or...?
859067;1412459778;decimation;Jake Bernstein: That’s everything he says on the topic in this meeting."
859068;1412459839;mircea_popescu;anyone with even a modicum of experience in the field can tell you that this sort of "sheperded proof" is pretty much useless.
859069;1412459885;mircea_popescu;not so unlike trying to audit the activity of diplomats.
859070;1412459888;decimation;well, since it is fed policy to keep all meetings with banks secret, I guess only a few know the reality
859071;1412459891;mircea_popescu;this is not something the plebs can do.
859072;1412459938;decimation;agreed, but it's not like one needs substantial evidence to imagine that usg employees are derpy bureaucrats who kowtow to people who make literally 10x their salary
859073;1412460052;*;asciilifeform suspects that, as with soviet bureaucrats, salary is only small part of the compensation package.
859074;1412460132;decimation;asciilifeform: The traditional method of 'cashing out' is to take a job with the regulator's target after a few years to establish bona fides
859075;1412460133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.13422671 = 1.6107 BTC [-] {9}
859076;1412460210;decimation;at any rate, I doubt that these fed employees carry much weight anyway, because someone in goldman can make a phone call to their boss's boss's boss and work out whatever deal needs to be made
859077;1412460265;asciilifeform;observation was not about weight they might carry in their domain, but in ordinary life
859078;1412460313;asciilifeform;e.g., what happens if a 'fed' minion (in good standing) appears in court, with a 'plebe' accuser (or plaintiff) ?
859079;1412460341;asciilifeform;do 'civil forfeiture' actions ever succeed against them? or magicked away ?
859080;1412460347;asciilifeform;etc.
859081;1412460377;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12138 @ 0.00074632 = 9.0588 BTC [+] {2}
859082;1412460395;asciilifeform;(more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.)
859083;1412460456;decimation;ah, well that happened after the above Mr. Silva fired the latina with moxie: "In the statement the Fed sent us last week, they say, quote, “The decision to terminate Ms. Segarra’s employment with the New York Fed was based entirely on performance grounds, not because she raised concerns as a member of an examination team about any institution.” In the spring, a judge threw Carmen’s suit out saying the law Carmen sued the Fed
859084;1412460457;decimation;under did not apply in this case"
859085;1412460536;mircea_popescu;decimation i don't get why bureaucrats shouldn't kowtow.
859086;1412460623;decimation;asciilifeform: re: tax authorities << http://www.govexec.com/defense/2014/07/millions-tax-debt-wont-stop-you-qualifying-pentagon-security-clearance/89831/
859087;1412460624;assbot;Millions in Tax Debt Wont Stop You from Qualifying for a Pentagon Security Clearance - Defense - GovExec.com
859088;1412460679;asciilifeform;millions - won't. thousands - will.
859089;1412460727;decimation;well, I suspect the 'right people' (ie friends and family of the SES crowd) meet the criteria
859090;1412460768;decimation;mircea_popescu: well it is likely the case that the goldman people are the 'betters' of the usg employees in many ways
859091;1412460815;mircea_popescu;at least the fraction thereof that didn't start life by working for the fed.
859092;1412460829;mircea_popescu;or w/e, "in an ideal world".
859093;1412460854;decimation;generally those that 'start in the fed' are going to be given 'make-work' jobs anyway, because it is known that their use was delivering usg decisions, not having skills
859094;1412460888;mircea_popescu;hm.
859095;1412460895;mircea_popescu;not really as clear cut i dun thin
859096;1412460948;asciilifeform;how much does that particular bureaucracy actually make decisions, in whatever sense, and how much just provides 'institutionalizing spraypaint' for decisions made by actual human somewhere in the loop ?
859097;1412461096;decimation;asciilifeform: I suspect mainly the latter is the case
859098;1412461171;asciilifeform;;;google this sucker could go down
859099;1412461171;gribble;Bush On Economy: "This Sucker Could Go Down" - Business Insider: ; Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains ...: ; Warren Buffett: I Have Greater Appreciation of Pres. Bush's Handling ...: (1 more message)
859100;1412461279;decimation;asciilifeform: in the beginning the 'boss' says this about his tenure on the staff of Tim Geithner during the 2008 'crisis':"
859101;1412461280;decimation;Mike Silva: And when I realized that nobody had any idea how to respond to that, I went into the bathroom and threw up. Because I realized this is it, it’s just this small group of people, and right now at this moment we have no clue. I never want to get close to that moment again"
859102;1412461411;mircea_popescu;lol that moment never left.
859103;1412461414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00074428 = 5.5077 BTC [-] {2}
859104;1412461427;mircea_popescu;osama took care of the people that could have sorted it out, back in 2001.
859105;1412462148;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bank-of-portugal-concerned-about-bitcoin-atm-launch/
859106;1412462251;kakobrekla;;;bc,stats
859107;1412462253;gribble;Current Blocks: 323851 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 724 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34362802496.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.86154
859108;1412462910;xanthyos;karlpilkington: there is no universe, only galactic corporations
859109;1412462932;xanthyos;physicist dr michio kakobrekla
859110;1412463024;kakobrekla;that guy is what you get if you mix arthur c clarke and oprah
859111;1412463061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00074819 = 9.7639 BTC [+]
859112;1412463729;bounce;so instead of electing two people essentially on how much money they spend on campaigning then have them wheel in an administration full of cronies and toadies and campaigners and contributors and whoever else they could drag out of their regular watering holes, how about... picking a bunch of randoms out of a big pile of candidates and telling them to sort it out on pain of... oh, a suitably large bond put up, up front?
859113;1412464708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.13427073 = 0.9399 BTC [+] {3}
859114;1412465501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2623 @ 0.00074908 = 1.9648 BTC [+]
859115;1412466782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00074847 = 19.3105 BTC [-]
859116;1412467941;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00074764 = 31.6999 BTC [-] {2}
859117;1412468335;decimation;;;ticker
859118;1412468337;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 327.5, Best ask: 328.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 328.0, 24 hour volume: 28801.57254709, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
859119;1412468427;decimation;!up justanotheruser
859120;1412468462;justanotheruser;hi
859121;1412468473;kakobrekla;hi
859122;1412468485;decimation;hello! what brings you here?
859123;1412468521;justanotheruser;was directed here to listen to someone talk
859124;1412468559;decimation;ah well this would be the place. I suggest reading the logs at log.bitcoin-assets.com if you are curious
859125;1412468583;justanotheruser;thanks
859126;1412469366;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: no sir i do not
859127;1412469386;ben_vulpes;remember how i was lamenting abandoning my m.e. toolchain for computers?
859128;1412469746;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/msigna-bitcoin-wallet-to-debut-this-weekend/
859129;1412470504;*;ben_vulpes is curious about cockrings now
859130;1412470546;ben_vulpes;asciilifeform: can't say as i know why your cutoff tool's doing that to the piece. the mark looks like an overheating of either workpiece or cutting tool, but the geometry indicates that it was spiraling in on a single pass.
859131;1412470626;ben_vulpes;i'd expect you to not be cutting so deep on a single pass (if your tooling even supported it) (due to apparently having a working understanding of machining limitations), which implies some crazy connection between out of true-ness of the workpiece maybe?
859132;1412470639;ben_vulpes;but even that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
859133;1412470717;ben_vulpes;sometimes one just sees weird marks on the finished pieces - typically, one programs in a light finishing cut with a sharp tool to keep qa "engineers" from failing the piece on visual inspection.
859134;1412470755;ben_vulpes;also the geometry's a bit weird for a single-pass cut, which reduces the likelihood.
859135;1412470760;ben_vulpes;tl;dr: I DUNNO MANG
859136;1412470772;ben_vulpes;engineering response: "depends"
859137;1412470790;ben_vulpes;oh lol hand machined slave collars
859138;1412470802;ben_vulpes;so i helped with a wide-bore bearing one time
859139;1412470853;ben_vulpes;http://psas.pdx.edu/lv2cspincan/
859140;1412470854;assbot;lv2cspincan
859141;1412470895;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: there's a market for single-piece metal collars? aren't the leather ones flexible by design?
859142;1412471013;ben_vulpes; jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder << oh look, i pin the tail on the recruiter donkey and the original spamgun shows up in an effort to lend credence to the notion that they're seperate entities
859143;1412471153;ben_vulpes; imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert
859144;1412471410;ben_vulpes; (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.) << usg employees are notoriously immune to "mistakes" on their filings.
859145;1412471531;ben_vulpes;http://otakugangsta.com/image/99115327495
859146;1412471531;assbot;OTAKU GANGSTA : Photo
859147;1412472492;decimation;ben_vulpes: single-piece collars as in no hinge?
859148;1412472632;decimation;re: usg officials with 'immunity' : http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/exclusive-family-business-at-the-national-security-agency
859149;1412472633;assbot;Wife: NSA Official. Husband: Exec At Firm Seeming To Do Or Seek Business With NSA
859150;1412472992;decimation;ben_vulpes: that's a neat rocket assembly
859151;1412473187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01060006 = 0.848 BTC [-] {7}
859152;1412477727;asciilifeform;ben_vulpes: those adult-sized tools are glorious.
859153;1412477766;*;asciilifeform doesn't even own an indexer yet...
859154;1412478548;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes lifetime slavegirls have little use for leather collars.
859155;1412478560;mircea_popescu;for one thing, you can't really shower with one.
859156;1412478601;*;asciilifeform recommends inconel - theoretically good for a millenium or three in salt water
859157;1412478635;mircea_popescu;nah, copper compounds aren't tolerated well by the skin.
859158;1412478640;mircea_popescu;silver alloys, especially silversteel.
859159;1412478657;asciilifeform;precious little cu in there
859160;1412478673;mircea_popescu;don;t take much. all cu oxides are poisony.
859161;1412478675;asciilifeform;and it does its job precisely by refusing to react with just about anything, esp. at st.
859162;1412478676;asciilifeform;stp
859163;1412478724;mircea_popescu;o wait this is the ni-chromium thing nm
859164;1412478731;asciilifeform;see also 'hastelloy'.
859165;1412478732;mircea_popescu;my bad
859166;1412478804;mthreat;damn I want to buy an L-39 jet. http://www.l39.com/content/faq
859167;1412478805;assbot;FAQ | L-39 Enthusiasts
859168;1412478880;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/
859169;1412479008;mircea_popescu; imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert << no u
859170;1412479038;cazalla;more like convert amirite
859171;1412479068;mircea_popescu;pervert, anyway.
859172;1412479093;mircea_popescu;cazalla btw, wow on your killing it with that thing.
859173;1412479100;mircea_popescu;you gonna keep this 10 a day rythm ?
859174;1412479105;mircea_popescu;because if you do you win.
859175;1412479113;cazalla;time will tell i guess
859176;1412479137;mircea_popescu;a good third of why trilema is so powerful is that i goddamn post.
859177;1412479297;decimation;for me titanium works well on my skin
859178;1412479305;decimation;but it's difficult to machine obviously
859179;1412479319;mircea_popescu;titanium is usually cast afaik
859180;1412479347;decimation;avoid nickel. platinum works for me too but a bit pricey :)
859181;1412479400;mircea_popescu;not really that pricey. you wouldn't want more than a couple of ounces given that weight harms tissue
859182;1412479416;mircea_popescu;and a couple of ounces aren't that much of a fortune
859183;1412479530;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/R4EbgZN
859184;1412479530;assbot;police show. - Imgur
859185;1412479560;asciilifeform;^ actual show in my town
859186;1412479580;decimation;platinum also develops a neat grayish patina
859187;1412479614;decimation;asciilifeform: one wonders why the police need a .50 cal rifle
859188;1412479627;asciilifeform;i asked
859189;1412479650;asciilifeform;policeman helpfully explained, that it was decreed that they must have a few in order to stop cars...
859190;1412479665;asciilifeform;maintained that it has never been put to this use yet.
859191;1412479676;asciilifeform;and pointed out that if i want one, it can be bought for about 5k usd.
859192;1412479681;mircea_popescu;how is a .5 rifle stop cars ?
859193;1412479690;asciilifeform;same way you stop airplane with it
859194;1412479710;asciilifeform;(a round through the radiator, most practically)
859195;1412479731;decimation;I know a few private citizens that own full-auto machine guns
859196;1412479759;mircea_popescu;so wait, you stop the car coming at you ?
859197;1412479766;decimation;you need to fill out the right forms and have someone with a note from Stalin give you leave
859198;1412479774;mircea_popescu;afaik the ballistic car stopers is shooting the tires. which can be done with a bb gun really
859199;1412479778;asciilifeform;decimation: and pay 50K+ usd
859200;1412479796;decimation;as I recall it was also a couple $$ per shell
859201;1412479816;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: afaik they are forbidden to shoot at the tires - it results in an out-of-control spin, demolishes unrelated cars
859202;1412479841;mircea_popescu;and blowing up the cylinders does not ?
859203;1412479852;cazalla;BingoBoingo, i'm not so sure about that new background colour
859204;1412479856;asciilifeform;why would it ?
859205;1412479865;decimation;for the purposes of police, it would seem much more practical to use 'stop strips'
859206;1412479881;mircea_popescu;i dunno dood, jagged bits of hot metal going any which way
859207;1412479906;decimation;I doubt any political figure in the dc area is going to allow someone to fire a small cannon at a criminal
859208;1412479911;asciilifeform;there was also a chopper, several $mil, according to its keeper. fitted with 100k ir camera.
859209;1412479939;asciilifeform;according to the lecturer - can stay aloft for a whole 2 hours!
859210;1412479940;decimation;asciilifeform: human-piloted or otherwise?
859211;1412479943;asciilifeform;human
859212;1412479952;asciilifeform;tiny thing though, like a flying police car.
859213;1412479957;asciilifeform;seats four men
859214;1412479981;decimation;maryland state police used those eurocopter doulphins for awhile
859215;1412479984;asciilifeform;keeper lamented that it had no arms or armour
859216;1412480002;decimation;obligatory: https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2012/09/17/massachusetts-state-police-new-helicopter/
859217;1412480003;assbot;Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Massachusetts State Police New Helicopter
859218;1412480012;mircea_popescu;lol flying police car
859219;1412480038;decimation;maryland was/is the only state that had a fully government owned/operated medivac system
859220;1412480067;decimation;to take care of the 30k people who die per year on the roads, of course
859221;1412480102;asciilifeform;chopper specialist explained that his machine exists solely to search for people
859222;1412480186;decimation;I guess if you have a few $tn to blow every year you gotta have your manned people-search helicopters
859223;1412480205;asciilifeform;this was a county police dept.
859224;1412480209;asciilifeform;(not even state)
859225;1412480268;dub;sorry is this argument that you don't want to have your life saved by this service because tax?
859226;1412480274;mircea_popescu;"A posting every day; an interesting idea every three months" not a bad byline
859227;1412480289;decimation;when I was living in maryland it struck me as very odd about how powerful the local counties were
859228;1412480293;asciilifeform;dub: the chopper (not in photo) does not evacuate, it was a kind of flying version of ordinary police car
859229;1412480304;dub;praps tehre should be a non-resuss clause inherent in being a libertard
859230;1412480321;decimation;dub: I was implying that other localities get by with civilian pilots
859231;1412480344;mircea_popescu;dub the argument is that if you spend ten grand on an omlette when your entire weekly budged is 6k, people coming in to derp about how "so you don't want to eat" get a pie to the face.
859232;1412480348;mircea_popescu;here's yours.
859233;1412480562;decimation;asciilifeform: I considered living in pg county once - until I realized how high the local property tax rates were
859234;1412480590;mircea_popescu;decimation you don;'t really have to own property to live there tho, do you ?
859235;1412480614;asciilifeform;decimation: these don't really get rolled into rent effectively, so i don't much care
859236;1412480634;dub;these wage numbers are terrifying
859237;1412480635;decimation;yeah this is a good point. I rent now and I'm reluctant to get back into the real estate bezzle world
859238;1412480640;joecool;decimation: NJ has had that since the 80's, just took delivery of 5 new helicopters in the past year or two
859239;1412480658;decimation;if you lived in say, bowie, you would have to pay nearly 2% per year
859240;1412480684;dub;someone instructing others in teh use of aircraft earns $50k?
859241;1412480723;asciilifeform;get back into << as for me, i was never in
859242;1412480729;mircea_popescu;this shit's epic.
859243;1412480729;mircea_popescu;http://nypost.com/2012/05/06/brutal-system-of-teen-beatings-continues-at-rikers-islands-rndc-prison/
859244;1412480731;assbot;Brutal system of teen beatings continues at Rikers Islands RNDC prison | New York Post
859245;1412480735;mircea_popescu;"
859246;1412480735;mircea_popescu;AMONG THE VICTOMS: Eighteen-year-old Christopher Robinson (pictured) was killed in 2008 by thugs in "The Program", a brutal heiarchy which victomizes youths at Rikers Island including an imnate who was hospitalized for a broken jaw."
859247;1412480741;decimation;dub: piloting is an interesting chumpatron. most pilots earn peanuts, but they all hope to fly for the 'major' airlines and earn $300k per year
859248;1412480753;asciilifeform;;;google tournament market
859249;1412480754;gribble;The Man Who Wasn't There | Science Careers: ; Excalibur Medieval Tournament & Market Faire - Arcata, CA ...: ; Five Keys to Marketing a New Soccer Tournament | The PTM Blog: (1 more message)
859250;1412480756;mircea_popescu;sorry me'em, i cunt nit fuonds me vuwils
859251;1412480760;dub;sorry. a lot less, they take a break from earnign essentially nothing to go an earn an apparently desirable $50k
859252;1412480790;mircea_popescu;dub flying is a labour of love. what, you think mthreat hopes to make any sort of profit flying a jet for no reason ?
859253;1412480811;decimation;http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot-salary/188/United-Airlines.html
859254;1412480811;assbot;United Airlines Pilot Pay Rates
859255;1412480839;dub;jesus
859256;1412480936;decimation;http://www.cbsnews.com/news/four-female-prison-guards-impregnated-by-same-inmate/
859257;1412480937;assbot;Four female prison guards impregnated by same inmate - CBS News
859258;1412480944;mircea_popescu;aahahahaha
859259;1412480947;mircea_popescu;ok, great one.
859260;1412480973;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwz3Kl4xFw
859261;1412480973;assbot;PG Police robot demo - YouTube
859262;1412480976;asciilifeform;^ from same
859263;1412480976;decimation;of course only maryland can explain why they hire women to guard hardened gangsters
859264;1412481039;mircea_popescu;so basically they were slavegirls
859265;1412481043;mircea_popescu;going by the tattooing
859266;1412481044;decimation;yes
859267;1412481074;mircea_popescu;this guy got me licked.
859268;1412481086;mircea_popescu;;;rate tavon 3 nigga's got the moves.
859269;1412481086;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
859270;1412481090;mircea_popescu;well, maybe one day.
859271;1412481097;decimation;there is something poetic about a prisoner literally impregnating the state's authority personified, and it says something about usg & friends
859272;1412481115;mircea_popescu;says more about the guy.
859273;1412481155;decimation;yes, he's no doubt a supreme 'alpha' type
859274;1412481194;decimation;baltimore isn't exactly known for its quality governance . watch "The Wire" if you wanna know the details
859275;1412481285;decimation;asciilifeform: that's a neat little two-wheel bot
859276;1412481311;asciilifeform;decimation: it costs, allegedly, $maxint
859277;1412481318;asciilifeform;(forget exact amount - 5 figures usd)
859278;1412481325;decimation;heh. I think it could be built for less than $500
859279;1412481474;decimation;that little bot seems more useful than a 0.50 cal rifle to a policeman. ideally, one could use it to 'scout' to see if "worst case swat team" is really required, rather than joe the constable
859280;1412481476;dub;less than $50 in bulk
859281;1412481502;*;asciilifeform asked 'ever use it.' lecturer replied 'many times'
859282;1412481527;decimation;I suspect a majority of engineers working in the us feed their families on this business model
859283;1412481531;asciilifeform;also lecture concerned specifically the 'swat team'
859284;1412481553;decimation;Well, if I were going to bust open a door, I would want to know what is behind it
859285;1412481744;asciilifeform;http://atomictoasters.com/2014/06/q%C2%B3-sfsiwi-edition/#more-31867 << unrelated
859286;1412481745;assbot;Q: SFSIWI Edition : Atomic Toasters
859287;1412481830;decimation;lol looks like a good way to lose a finger
859288;1412481965;decimation;btw here's the guy who likely wrote the bash bug: http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/
859289;1412482032;asciilifeform;-and- 'readline' !?
859290;1412482048;decimation;hehe lock away your women
859291;1412482117;decimation;'gnu software': parsers written by derps who can't write parsers
859292;1412482549;decimation;asciilifeform: what kind of bell must be rung to convince people that 'reviewing' the monstrous pile of C code (on the C-machine) modern software uses is not just difficult - it's impossible
859293;1412482567;*;asciilifeform tried.
859294;1412482581;asciilifeform;what kind of bell must be rung to wake the dead?
859295;1412482599;asciilifeform;or at least to reanimate 'vegetables' ?
859296;1412482664;decimation;I've been reading derpage in the media about how much money amazon & google make of the wintel/linux stack and how little they obviously look at the details of what they are building
859297;1412482707;decimation;inevitably there's going to be some usg 'dept of c-machine hygiene'
859298;1412482817;asciilifeform;that'd be... microshit.
859299;1412482855;decimation;the vegetable analogy is incomplete - the 'vegetable' could get up and walk, or at least move its fingers, at any time
859300;1412482872;decimation;patient chooses to wallow in its vegetableness instead
859301;1412482884;asciilifeform;the semiconductor folks could decide to produce non-braindamaged circuits also at any time.
859302;1412483924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 211 @ 0.12399059 = 26.162 BTC [-] {14}
859303;1412484047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.12117142 = 2.5446 BTC [-] {3}
859304;1412484107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1091 @ 0.00410419 = 4.4777 BTC [-] {8}
859305;1412484638;ben_vulpes;novelty, ohio
859306;1412484640;ben_vulpes;my sides
859307;1412484654;ben_vulpes;chetty: you wrote bash bug?!
859308;1412484661;ben_vulpes;:P
859309;1412484702;ben_vulpes; for one thing, you can't really shower with one. << gold necklace?
859310;1412484876;The20YearIRCloud;Novelty?
859311;1412484926;ben_vulpes;mthreat: i creamed myself over the l39
859312;1412484980;ben_vulpes;but this pauper's gotta think smaller, like a 47: http://www.the47.com/
859313;1412485027;ben_vulpes;The20YearIRCloud: http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/
859314;1412485036;ben_vulpes;;;gettrust themediator
859315;1412485036;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user themediator: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=themediator | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=themediator | Rated since: never
859316;1412485075;The20YearIRCloud;and who's chet?
859317;1412485112;ben_vulpes;well do some reading
859318;1412485146;ben_vulpes;grepping logs for the link in question will illuminate much
859319;1412485158;ben_vulpes;decimation: saauce?
859320;1412485277;mthreat;ben_vulpes: I had assumed the l-39 went for around $1M, but they actually go for $175k up to $500k depending on avionics, refurbishing, etc
859321;1412485365;mthreat;ben_vulpes: but operating cost... burns up to 160 gallons per hour. i think jet fuel is $5/gallon.
859322;1412485391;mthreat;actually it probably burns more than 160gallons/hour at full throttle
859323;1412485401;mthreat;http://www.warbirdalley.com/articles/l39pr.htm
859324;1412485402;assbot;Warbird Alley: L-39 Albatros Pilot Report
859325;1412485407;ben_vulpes;;;calc 160*5
859326;1412485407;gribble;800
859327;1412485419;mthreat;YEP
859328;1412485423;mthreat;oops
859329;1412485455;dub;thats a lot cheaper than your avg superyacht
859330;1412485501;The20YearIRCloud;mthreat - they're not expensive birds
859331;1412485512;The20YearIRCloud;I saw one that sold for something along the lines of $250k in full military gear
859332;1412485536;The20YearIRCloud;err wait, not the l39
859333;1412485548;mthreat;top speed about 500 mph
859334;1412485549;The20YearIRCloud;I'm thinking A-37 dragonfly
859335;1412485558;The20YearIRCloud;(One of my more favorite aircraft)
859336;1412485599;ben_vulpes;wait mph and aircraft
859337;1412485605;ben_vulpes;my tiny retarded brain just assploded
859338;1412485659;The20YearIRCloud;Some americans use mph, especially dealing with ww2 era aircraft
859339;1412485670;mthreat;mach 0.8
859340;1412486446;ben_vulpes;might actually get somewhere for a grand in that thing
859341;1412489841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00074524 = 18.2211 BTC [-] {4}
859342;1412496429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.12223078 = 1.589 BTC [+] {3}
859343;1412496878;cazalla;don't go chasing buterin waterfalls.. (this one might be a tsunami)
859344;1412497288;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/breakout-gaming-release-bro-coin-details/
859345;1412497719;[]bot;Bet placed: 10 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 83(Y):17(N) by coin, 67(Y):33(N) by weight. Total bet: 25.48725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,634.
859346;1412498015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 49 @ 0.01036353 = 0.5078 BTC [-]
859347;1412498294;cazalla;150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged
859348;1412498460;punkman;;;ticker
859349;1412498463;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 316.0, Best ask: 316.43, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 316.44, 24 hour volume: 33120.41662483, 24 hour low: 315.01, 24 hour high: 354.75, 24 hour vwap: 335.779786497
859350;1412499174;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01036083 = 0.518 BTC [-] {3}
859351;1412500190;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 71(Y):29(N) by weight. Total bet: 30.48725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,599.
859352;1412501366;[]bot;Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3827.19563163 BTC. Current weight: 39,533.
859353;1412501836;Apocalyptic; [10:38:13] 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged // may be explained by the fact that it's almost all shorts if you're referring to bitfinex
859354;1412502433;thickasthieves;yeagh it cant go much lomger
859355;1412502449;thickasthieves;it can go much deeper though
859356;1412502680;Apocalyptic;you're still short tat ?
859357;1412502694;thickasthieves;yep
859358;1412502705;thickasthieves;been covering slowly on way down
859359;1412502730;thickasthieves;it was so fukn hard holding shorts in 330s
859360;1412502751;thickasthieves;but i'm learning
859361;1412502765;thickasthieves;to regulate my trigger finger
859362;1412502778;Apocalyptic;heh, I know that feeling
859363;1412502872;thickasthieves;i'm trying to figure out the current total btc swaps out on bfxdata.com
859364;1412502881;thickasthieves;but anything i see is hours old
859365;1412502990;thickasthieves;yet the USD swap data is current
859366;1412503136;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 72(Y):28(N) by weight. Total bet: 31.98725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,557.
859367;1412503140;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 26.15235445 BTC. Current weight: 22,119.
859368;1412503495;thickasthieves;also note there are like $20m in margin longs on bfx
859369;1412503508;thickasthieves;would be more fun to see them choked out
859370;1412503522;Apocalyptic;that's decent
859371;1412503523;jurov;http://shortlogic.tumblr.com/post/99014759324/reddits-crappy-ultimatum << reddit is soon history
859372;1412503524;assbot;Short logic (Reddits crappy ultimatum to remote workers and offices)
859373;1412503794;thickasthieves;i wonder if bfx is throttling swap data on purpose
859374;1412505991;[]bot;Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 30.15235445 BTC. Current weight: 21,915.
859375;1412506200;thickasthieves;;;estimate
859376;1412506201;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 34759474311.6 based on data since last change | 37121113125.0 based on data for last three days
859377;1412506210;thickasthieves;;;bcstats
859378;1412506212;gribble;Current Blocks: 323941 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 634 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 20 hours, 13 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34759474311.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.28287
859379;1412506222;thickasthieves;looks like it's turning back up
859380;1412506241;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 87(Y):13(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 33.98725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,513.
859381;1412506305;thickasthieves;time to test 300
859382;1412506366;punkman;;;ticker
859383;1412506368;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.71, Best ask: 307.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 307.77, 24 hour volume: 34788.90694890, 24 hour low: 307.11, 24 hour high: 353.87, 24 hour vwap: 333.475147624
859384;1412506834;thickasthieves;btce at 299
859385;1412506848;thickasthieves;here comes the despair!
859386;1412506941;[]bot;Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 76(Y):24(N) by weight. Total bet: 37.98725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,503.
859387;1412506962;cazalla;ooh, just in time whoever that was
859388;1412507093;[]bot;Bet placed: 7 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 90(Y):10(N) by coin, 79(Y):21(N) by weight. Total bet: 44.98725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,501.
859389;1412508287;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 81(Y):19(N) by weight. Total bet: 51.38725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,484.
859390;1412508294;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.9 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 81(Y):19(N) by weight. Total bet: 51.38725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,484.
859391;1412509211;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 56.38725376 BTC. Current weight: 32,471.
859392;1412509551;thickasthieves;livin on the edge
859393;1412510080;kakobrekla;muh
859394;1412512651;decimation;;;ticker
859395;1412512653;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.28, Best ask: 307.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 307.98, 24 hour volume: 38748.62497416, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 351.17, 24 hour vwap: 328.963391846
859396;1412512831;decimation;ben_vulpes: saauce for what?
859397;1412513369;decimation;asciilifeform: there is an amusing side story to that little two-wheeled bot - it's called the 'recon scout'. Turns out that it was made for the us military, who don't give a shit about civilian usg frequency allocation rules. When they wanted to sell it in the us, they had to get a special note from Stalin because it was actually operating ... in the middle of the ham band: http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-allows-robotic-device-in-
859398;1412513373;decimation;amateur-band
859399;1412513387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.13899672 = 0.695 BTC [+] {4}
859400;1412513399;decimation;hams were pissed, asked fcc to reconsider - fcc reconsidered and said "yeah you can operate your bot in the ham band"
859401;1412513438;decimation;Later they opted to operate more bots in the ham band: http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-denies-arrl-em-petition-em-to-deny-reconrobotics-licenses-but-limits-devices-to-100-khz-bandwidt
859402;1412513440;assbot;FCC Denies ARRL Petition to Deny ReconRobotics Licenses, But Limits Devices to 100 kHz Bandwidth
859403;1412513571;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44144 @ 0.0007494 = 33.0815 BTC [+] {4}
859404;1412514000;decimation;more bots http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/navy-guided-unmanned-patrol-boats-make-debut-25972159
859405;1412514001;assbot;Navy: Self-Guided Unmanned Patrol Boats Make Debut - ABC News
859406;1412514614;dub;neat
859407;1412514901;dub;was pondering a personal defense bot a few years ago, like a smart shuriken you can deploy a bunch of when under attack form ninjas and zombies
859408;1412515007;dub;and system where an airliner falling out of teh sky ejects its passengers to be individually caught by bot swarm
859409;1412515016;decimation;dub: lol
859410;1412515051;decimation;if one would go to the trouble of engineering an ejection system, why not add a parachute for each seat?
859411;1412515099;dub;or encase them in a protective foam/substance
859412;1412515120;jurov;;;seen davout
859413;1412515120;gribble;davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: oui et toi-même ?
859414;1412515210;jurov;;;later tell davout you really don't need help with x.eur MM bot? i don't even remmeber when there were any asks
859415;1412515210;gribble;The operation succeeded.
859416;1412515220;jurov;!d x.eur
859417;1412515278;jurov;$depth m x.eur
859418;1412515278;empyex;jurov: [X.EUR] Bids: 1875 @ 0.00120000 2000 @ 0.00100000
859419;1412515279;empyex;jurov: [X.EUR] Asks:
859420;1412515473;jurov;i feel like no one is looking to mpex and nobody notices stuff anymore
859421;1412515599;jurov;why?
859422;1412515694;jurov;i'm then reluctant to invest time and effort into improving coinbr, too
859423;1412515755;thickasthieves;because mpex isnt providing anything people want to play with intraday
859424;1412515845;jurov;havecock does?
859425;1412515885;thickasthieves;not in any way significant to people with money
859426;1412515929;thickasthieves;hl just has the mining thing, AM holdouts, and RENT IPOz
859427;1412515947;jurov;ikr. but it at leas it does not have such desolate looking order books
859428;1412515965;thickasthieves;mpex investors dont like taking losses
859429;1412515970;thickasthieves;:)
859430;1412516048;thickasthieves;would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges
859431;1412516091;thickasthieves;itd also be nice if the pricing werent abstracted in some fukt way that i need a spreadsheet just to know values
859432;1412516112;pankkake;jurov: 0.00020000 * 44`166 for F.MPIF, isn't it a market maker opportunity?
859433;1412516129;thickasthieves;jurov has limits on him
859434;1412516135;thickasthieves;can only trade in 1% or sumth
859435;1412516148;jurov;no
859436;1412516152;jurov;!mpif
859437;1412516153;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021861 B (Total: 478.05 B). Delta: -2.17 B. I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
859438;1412516171;jurov;;;calc 0.00021861/1.01
859439;1412516171;gribble;0.000216445544554
859440;1412516179;jurov;;;calc 0.00021861*1.01
859441;1412516180;gribble;0.0002207961
859442;1412516188;jurov;i shall trade outside of this
859443;1412516207;pankkake;isn't it well outside?
859444;1412516258;jurov;oh i see
859445;1412516324;jurov;but i want a bit bigger margin
859446;1412516405;jurov;don't want to end up with whole position on F.MPIF side
859447;1412516450;pankkake;here is 0.000195.
859448;1412516498;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 26200 @ 0.00019809 = 5.19 BTC {3}
859449;1412516515;jurov;oh they're liquidating as i'm writing...lemme see
859450;1412516803;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 17966 @ 0.000195 = 3.5034 BTC [-]
859451;1412516815;jurov;done. i'll now prolly pester mircea about buyback
859452;1412517065;mats_cd03;;;ticker
859453;1412517066;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 312.4, Best ask: 312.96, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 313.39, 24 hour volume: 38702.20084884, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 350.0, 24 hour vwap: 328.371621193
859454;1412517096;mats_cd03;it rises
859455;1412517136;thickasthieves;not for long
859456;1412517146;thickasthieves;although.. https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/
859457;1412517155;thickasthieves;nice walls
859458;1412518246;thickasthieves;http://recode.net/2014/10/04/nfl-bans-beats-headphones-on-camera/
859459;1412518246;assbot;NFL Bans Beats Headphones On Camera (Updated) | Re/code
859460;1412518256;thickasthieves;this, after the league made a deal with Bose
859461;1412518263;thickasthieves;they
859462;1412518391;mircea_popescu;%d
859463;1412518393;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 305176.15 in 536 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.75
859464;1412518532;thickasthieves;5000btc wall at 300$, someone really doesnt wanna lose the bitbet
859465;1412518594;mircea_popescu;!up jdany
859466;1412518597;mircea_popescu;lol
859467;1412518599;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
859468;1412518601;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 313.82, Best ask: 314.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 314.07, 24 hour volume: 39060.58237394, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 350.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.651978774
859469;1412518612;thickasthieves;hey jdany
859470;1412518650;mircea_popescu;the risk when one tries to artificially depress a security is that he'll end up selling most of his load at the lowest price and then have to repay the borrow at the high price.
859471;1412518652;thickasthieves;jdany messaged me on bitcointalk asking why i left, i explained there was no reason to stay and that here is better
859472;1412518660;mircea_popescu;it's how the cornering of the silver market worked
859473;1412518667;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves ah i see
859474;1412518669;mircea_popescu;!up jdany_
859475;1412518670;mircea_popescu;welcome.
859476;1412518726;mircea_popescu;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday << this being the tardpedia discussion on the topic.
859477;1412518727;assbot;Silver Thursday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
859478;1412518754;mircea_popescu;i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price.
859479;1412518828;jdany_;Hey!
859480;1412518845;jdany_;Thanks Tat
859481;1412519012;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
859482;1412519014;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 313.01, Best ask: 314.61, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 314.61, 24 hour volume: 38969.08891951, 24 hour low: 301.0, 24 hour high: 350.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.626642982
859483;1412519032;mircea_popescu;a .5% spread heh.
859484;1412519045;jdany_;I was wondering where some of the more active names were going...
859485;1412519058;mircea_popescu;so now you found it.
859486;1412519087;mircea_popescu;the log should provide ample reading material to catch up.
859487;1412519105;mircea_popescu;also there's a dedicated search function
859488;1412519109;mircea_popescu;!s tardstalk
859489;1412519110;assbot;30 results for 'tardstalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tardstalk
859490;1412519117;mircea_popescu;can be used in pm with assbot as well.
859491;1412519127;jdany_;Yep. So, do you guys stay active in Havelock - or are there other securities that I don't have exposure to
859492;1412519165;thickasthieves;none of us use havelock anymore really
859493;1412519182;thickasthieves;and the only securities woth consideration are probably on mpex
859494;1412519189;mircea_popescu;i think The20YearIRCloud uses it
859495;1412519193;thickasthieves;oh yeha
859496;1412519199;thickasthieves;RENT might be legit
859497;1412519213;jdany_;Sour on Asicminer?
859498;1412519218;thickasthieves;although he did just lose a bunch of fiat for his fiat business
859499;1412519225;thickasthieves;me?
859500;1412519235;thickasthieves;i was sour for a long time on AM
859501;1412519249;jdany_;I was speaking generally
859502;1412519251;thickasthieves;board didnt seem capable of fixing so i left
859503;1412519269;jdany_;but, I assume you got shafted at some point with AM
859504;1412519291;thickasthieves;depends what you mean? did i sell all shares at absolute top, no?
859505;1412519295;thickasthieves;no.
859506;1412519318;thickasthieves;did i get skimmed for 90 or so shares lost in transfers, yes
859507;1412519346;mats_cd03;ouch
859508;1412519378;The20YearIRCloud;HASH is doing well too
859509;1412519380;jdany_;Everything with you happened very abruptly.
859510;1412519386;mircea_popescu;their retarded "we'll issue shares, but on glbse ; we'll keep the shares, but on our own ah-doc registry" was perhaps the most braindamaged piece of financial management ever displayed to the public.
859511;1412519401;mircea_popescu;it marginally beats even the wall street derps doing gauss copulae on excel spreadsheets
859512;1412519409;mats_cd03;http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/peter-thiel-wants-to-make-hackers-into-heroes.html lol
859513;1412519410;assbot;Peter Thiel Wants to Make Hackers Into Heroes -- NYMag
859514;1412519413;jdany_;I figured you get fed up, dumped and bailed
859515;1412519436;thickasthieves;mp yeha it got to a point where there were too many unique open cases and balancing the transfer books was impossible
859516;1412519450;mircea_popescu;"Name a science fiction movie in the last 25 years that shows technology in a positive light, says Peter Thiel << anything made in asia ?
859517;1412519455;dub;tbh 'they' have continue to display a good level of brain damage
859518;1412519464;The20YearIRCloud;The matrix
859519;1412519484;The20YearIRCloud;It showed technology in a positive light, humans were finally unable to destroy gaia
859520;1412519486;jurov;transcendence or how it was called was rather positive about tech
859521;1412519511;thickasthieves;jdany_ leaving AM (and all bitcoin securities dealings) was something that took a few mos to prep and execute
859522;1412519520;mircea_popescu;matrix ? nah. the us anti-intellectualism fully at work : technology as the magic of the evil, desocialised, psychopathic dr evil.
859523;1412519521;thickasthieves;Neo dying just expedited it
859524;1412519562;mircea_popescu;"Tall and thin with close-cropped hair and ageless skin" what the motherfucking shit is wrong with these people.
859525;1412519570;mircea_popescu;who thinks anyone cares to hear about how thiel's skin is ?!
859526;1412519587;mircea_popescu;who reads nymag, nysexaddicts ?!
859527;1412519641;mircea_popescu;is this some sort of braindamged feminism run amok where they imagine that if they "microagress" the patriarchy by discussing thiel as if he were some made-to-fuck-once-and-discard popstarlet something's gonna happen ?
859528;1412519649;mircea_popescu;i mean, something other than chuckles at their expense ?
859529;1412519945;mats_cd03;elite worship is common
859530;1412520046;mircea_popescu;not in female terms.
859531;1412520064;mircea_popescu;his skin could be hellraiser's for all the difference it'd make to his life.
859532;1412520068;mircea_popescu;because he's not a woman.
859533;1412520219;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00074602 = 25.3647 BTC [-] {2}
859534;1412520260;kakobrekla; the risk when one tries to artificially depress a security is that he'll end up selling most of his load at the lowest price and then have to repay the borrow at the high price. < way easier to default
859535;1412520306;mircea_popescu;if they end up defaulting because misjudged their strength and got head bit off by bitcoin i'll have the most satisfying wank conceivable by man
859536;1412520318;mircea_popescu;i'll prolly have a special lotion designed for the experience.
859537;1412520413;kakobrekla;meh such default has zero weight
859538;1412520507;kakobrekla;(would love to be wrong here)
859539;1412520536;mircea_popescu;ohohohoho notrly. while the abject selfdebasing of the highschool priss is exactly of zero practical weight, as there are more pleasant girls and better trained, so one'd never seriously use her for a direct purpose,
859540;1412520542;mircea_popescu;nevertheless in amusement terms it's quite something.
859541;1412520549;mircea_popescu;all meta, kako. all meta.
859542;1412520618;TheNewDeal;;;market buy 10000
859543;1412520619;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 3875629.8332 USD and would take the last price up to 491.5800 USD, resulting in an average price of 387.5630 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0915 seconds
859544;1412520636;TheNewDeal;not bad
859545;1412520648;The20YearIRCloud;dang
859546;1412520815;jurov;what can usg default on? does it have any bitcoin-denominated debt yet?
859547;1412520843;mircea_popescu;yes.
859548;1412520860;mircea_popescu;the beauty of it all is that it does.
859549;1412520907;jurov;what one?
859550;1412520928;mircea_popescu;what one ?!
859551;1412521211;jurov;who borrowed btc to them?
859552;1412521277;thickasthieves;<+mircea_popescu> his skin could be hellraiser's for all the difference it'd make to his life. /// maybe the guy just had particularly distracting skin, probly not, but ive seen such before
859553;1412521294;jurov;*lent
859554;1412521302;TheNewDeal;jurov china, then they banned it ;)
859555;1412521359;jurov;not sure if serious..link?
859556;1412521370;mircea_popescu;jurov i am serious, it is not public knowledge either.
859557;1412521379;thickasthieves;i'm just waiting for bitcoin to ban china
859558;1412521400;mircea_popescu;you know, just like the $ amt someone paid for their supposed stash is not public knowledge.
859559;1412521404;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves ain't happening.
859560;1412521406;mircea_popescu;and wh ywould it ?
859561;1412521434;thickasthieves;mostly joking
859562;1412521453;thickasthieves;but i do worry for people using their exchanges
859563;1412521473;mircea_popescu;eh, they're chinese
859564;1412521477;mircea_popescu;they're used to being scammed.
859565;1412521477;thickasthieves;i guess exchange worry is universal
859566;1412521530;*;jurov digests the information
859567;1412521548;thickasthieves;diff is spiking now
859568;1412521551;thickasthieves;we got trolled
859569;1412521554;thickasthieves;;;estimate
859570;1412521556;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 34976843352.0 based on data since last change | 37790971411.8 based on data for last three days
859571;1412521643;TheNewDeal;;;nethash
859572;1412521644;gribble;270522438.341
859573;1412522297;The20YearIRCloud;Well this is nice, i didn't realize the controller for my kids quadcopter was a 2.4ghz device. It jams our home's wifi signal
859574;1412522333;kakobrekla;try switching channels
859575;1412522372;The20YearIRCloud;the router i believe switches channels automatically when there's a signal blocking it, i think the helicopter thing is just so leaky that it prevents the wifi sinal
859576;1412522382;The20YearIRCloud;Granted it's an easy fix - don't fly the helicopter inside
859577;1412522453;TheNewDeal;2.4gz doesnt penetrate walls?
859578;1412522487;TheNewDeal;I was going to say, tell him to fly it by your least favorite neighbor
859579;1412522593;mircea_popescu;hm this shouldn't really be possible, surprised they allowed the import
859580;1412522604;The20YearIRCloud;It does,but when we fly it outside there isn't any wifi interuption it sems
859581;1412522622;The20YearIRCloud;FCC doesn't actively monitor small devices
859582;1412522635;mircea_popescu;they still gotta get a cert to be allowed to import it.
859583;1412522644;mircea_popescu;i guess someone somewhere be rubberstampin'.
859584;1412522725;TheNewDeal;can I bring this on an airplane and fuck with people?
859585;1412522733;TheNewDeal;or is that asking for trouble
859586;1412523068;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal not really in your best interest. if you manage to mess with the plane's comms you might even crash it
859587;1412523084;mats_cd03;you're unlikely to get caught
859588;1412523128;mircea_popescu;yes well sometimes success is its own punishment.
859589;1412523149;mircea_popescu;justusranvier hey, can i get you to contribute an article to qntra ?
859590;1412523388;mircea_popescu;;;seen wywialm
859591;1412523388;gribble;wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: Oh, yeah. In this we certainly agree
859592;1412523442;mircea_popescu;;;later tell wywialm say when you're about.
859593;1412523442;gribble;The operation succeeded.
859594;1412523448;mircea_popescu;;;seen princessnell
859595;1412523449;gribble;princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: hey gang
859596;1412523454;mircea_popescu;;;later tell princessnell say when you're about.
859597;1412523455;gribble;The operation succeeded.
859598;1412524016;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: -and- 'readline' !? << lulzy huh
859599;1412524071;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes: chetty: you wrote bash bug?! <<< she'd better not have lol
859600;1412524199;mircea_popescu;but anyway, chet.ramey@case.edu aka 64EA74AB duly recorded.
859601;1412524280;mircea_popescu;mthreat: ben_vulpes: I had assumed the l-39 went for around $1M, but they actually go for $175k up to $500k depending on avionics, refurbishing, etc <<< the opcost is the bigger problem there
859602;1412524300;mircea_popescu;a, right, your next line :)
859603;1412524306;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6774 @ 0.00074611 = 5.0541 BTC [+]
859604;1412524323;mats_cd03;heh
859605;1412524371;TheNewDeal;;;ticker
859606;1412524372;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 282.0, Best ask: 284.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.94000, Last trade: 284.94, 24 hour volume: 48575.62049890, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 320.382021226
859607;1412524374;mircea_popescu;cazalla: 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged << lulzy.
859608;1412524600;mircea_popescu;decimation: Later they opted to operate more bots in the ham band <<< seems a reasonable solution, really. emergency ham band requisition. what'd you have them do ?
859609;1412524624;kakobrekla;30k btc ask @ 300 on stamp O_o
859610;1412524632;mircea_popescu;dub: and system where an airliner falling out of teh sky ejects its passengers to be individually caught by bot swarm <<< from what i recall this is actually under commercial development.
859611;1412524707;mircea_popescu;jurov: i feel like no one is looking to mpex and nobody notices stuff anymore << no, i noticed, left the guy a later tell.
859612;1412524710;TheNewDeal;damn 30k?
859613;1412524771;TheNewDeal;I would love to see some people take a few chomps at that
859614;1412524794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.80694984 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 418 satoshi per share
859615;1412524857;kakobrekla;;;market buy 10000
859616;1412524858;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 2998710.2763 USD and would take the last price up to 300.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 299.8710 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 33.2073 seconds
859617;1412524867;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ?
859618;1412524874;kakobrekla;;;market buy 30000
859619;1412524875;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 30000 bitcoins right now would take 9007328.7238 USD and would take the last price up to 323.3100 USD, resulting in an average price of 300.2443 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 50.2833 seconds
859620;1412524893;mircea_popescu;whoa pankkake is back ?!
859621;1412524895;mircea_popescu;where you been yo.
859622;1412524940;mircea_popescu;jurov: don't want to end up with whole position on F.MPIF side << why not ? i'll just unwind it. the latest report actually says so, didja read it ?
859623;1412524965;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
859624;1412524966;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.15, Best ask: 292.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 292.0, 24 hour volume: 49356.65947835, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 318.060741075
859625;1412524977;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
859626;1412525046;TheNewDeal;very surprised litecoin isn't taking an accelerated nosedive
859627;1412525106;mircea_popescu;what holders remain are well shaken out.
859628;1412525147;mircea_popescu;not so in bitcoin. getting rid of the tardstalk/reddit/etc "community" and burning a bunch of "experts" is a fucking godsend, if they'll just stfu about it and move on to their next cool thing that'd be great.
859629;1412525251;TheNewDeal;Can't wait to see how quickly tim drapers coins get munched on bitstamp
859630;1412525317;mircea_popescu;!up R7R7
859631;1412525342;danielpbarron;https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/518794820178169857
859632;1412525344;assbot;/openbazaar How migrate from beta 1 to beta 2 ?
859633;1412525393;TomServo;;;bc,stats
859634;1412525396;gribble;Current Blocks: 323984 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 591 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 5 hours, 56 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35100796468.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.26761
859635;1412525712;TheNewDeal;Krugman trying to drive a few pageviews http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/04/the-long-cryptocon/?_php=true&_type=blogs&pagewanted=all&_r=0
859636;1412525910;mircea_popescu;lmao
859637;1412526279;ben_vulpes;decimation: for the headbash author
859638;1412526326;mircea_popescu;!up knite
859639;1412526442;PeterL;mircea_popescu: have you found anything interesting to do with the huge amounts of cash held by MPIF?
859640;1412526459;mircea_popescu;yeah.
859641;1412526484;PeterL;should be a report out soon?
859642;1412526487;mircea_popescu;HODL!!!1
859643;1412526489;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/
859644;1412526929;ben_vulpes;;;ticker
859645;1412526930;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 284.0, Best ask: 284.24, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 284.0, 24 hour volume: 50063.36157078, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 315.736945727
859646;1412527028;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 95(Y):5(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,925.
859647;1412527206;TheNewDeal;and as quickly as the wall appeared, its gone
859648;1412527267;asciilifeform;ham band requisition << this works both ways, you know.
859649;1412527297;asciilifeform;and ham transmitter is typically far louder than that pocket-sized remote (see police film)
859650;1412527332;asciilifeform;so surveillance bot, turns out, is cured with easy pill...
859651;1412527556;TheNewDeal;is huobi volume considered legitimate, or were they included on the bucket-shop scam list?
859652;1412527648;The20YearIRCloud;RENT's october dividend keeps looking better and better
859653;1412527662;kakobrekla;^^
859654;1412527751;kakobrekla;whats next, up ninjaspamgun?
859655;1412527928;TheNewDeal;i've heard he's got a new entrepreneurship
859656;1412528145;kakobrekla;jurov 'singing' bash wasnt a typo :)
859657;1412528205;jurov;ohmy. remove me from the bash admin before i make bigger mess
859658;1412528221;kakobrekla;lol its fine
859659;1412528256;kakobrekla;its prolly not a good idea that all the filtering is left up to me
859660;1412528334;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what i mean is : if you had a stash of 1mn units using x hardcoded band,
859661;1412528344;mircea_popescu;wouldn't you think it more expedient to relocate some random sporadic ham stuff ?
859662;1412528346;mircea_popescu;cheaper.
859663;1412528375;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal no data atm.
859664;1412528448;jurov;mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls
859665;1412528573;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ << silkroad bet resolved and other considerations
859666;1412528575;assbot;The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
859667;1412528583;mircea_popescu;jurov on it.
859668;1412528757;TheNewDeal;alas, resolution
859669;1412528800;*;kakobrekla opens an umbrella and prepares for shitstorm
859670;1412529081;bounce;ham bands work best when they're the same world-wide. also, ham operators are remarkably useful in SHTF situations, and otherwise are very little bother since they tend to know their stuff. so no, it's neither smart nor expedient to try and relocate them. much easier to not be assholes and play nice from the start.
859671;1412529173;mircea_popescu;aha
859672;1412529180;*;mircea_popescu knows little bout haming.
859673;1412529199;mircea_popescu;but yes, the worldwide problem is the silver bullet here.
859674;1412529686;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/
859675;1412530351;mircea_popescu;$s
859676;1412530355;mircea_popescu;$conference
859677;1412530355;empyex;mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 6 months and 12 days. Estimated cost today: 4.23973791 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
859678;1412530408;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00074495 = 1.1547 BTC [-]
859679;1412530424;TheNewDeal;price isn't pegged in bitcoin?
859680;1412530516;mircea_popescu;nope. gives people an oppporunity to have fun
859681;1412530628;Dimsler;lol
859682;1412530631;Dimsler;begged in bitcoin
859683;1412530660;Dimsler;should be able to make this
859684;1412530667;Dimsler;argeninta in the spring is gorgeous
859685;1412530687;mircea_popescu;its pretty great all year through
859686;1412531045;TheNewDeal;pretty humid it looks like? https://weatherspark.com/averages/33323/Buenos-Aires-Capital-Federal-Argentina
859687;1412531046;assbot;Average Weather For Buenos Aires, Argentina - WeatherSpark
859688;1412531136;mircea_popescu;i think about half of that comes in the form of extremely intense rain
859689;1412531143;bounce;http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iran/daesh-document-disclose-plans-to-seize-iran-s-nuclear-secrets-1.1394455 -- too bad it doesn't tell why they think putin would go along with what they want
859690;1412531143;assbot;Daesh document disclose plans to seize Irans nuclear secrets | GulfNews.com
859691;1412531145;mircea_popescu;which you know...
859692;1412531148;mircea_popescu;!up Guest46405
859693;1412531165;mircea_popescu;bounce putin doesn't understand how the world works.
859694;1412531205;Apocalyptic;he understood how Russia worked though
859695;1412531221;bounce;he doesn't? I see him make much better decisions (from his perspective) than either the EU or the US (from their respective perspectives)
859696;1412531232;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic it's a reference to this idiotic comment by some us derp or other
859697;1412531244;mircea_popescu;;;google "putin doesn't understand how the world works"
859698;1412531245;gribble;Russian View: Why Putin Is Not Impressed | Wolf Street: ; Why America doesn't understand Putin - The Washington Post: ; Has Putin pulled military back from (1 more message)
859699;1412531248;Apocalyptic;oh
859700;1412531275;mircea_popescu;o look at that. the derp in question was obama
859701;1412531278;mircea_popescu;whodda guessed.
859702;1412531298;mircea_popescu;you know who understands how the world works ? obama lmao. putin doesn't.
859703;1412531318;mircea_popescu;every single time they've met in the field the russian feed the kenyan's ass to him, but hey.
859704;1412531336;mircea_popescu;why let facts and scores get in the way of things. besides, scoring is raycist
859705;1412531618;TheNewDeal;;;ticker
859706;1412531619;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 295.51, Best ask: 296.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 295.5, 24 hour volume: 49890.61529527, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 342.15, 24 hour vwap: 313.35706663
859707;1412531954;danielpbarron;one of the OpenBazaar guys said he'd send someone in here; that's what the tweet I linked to was about
859708;1412531979;danielpbarron;they are trying to make some sort of decentralized reputation system
859709;1412532183;danielpbarron;heard about them on freetalklive, a radio show I am beginning to suspect is run by government plants
859710;1412532205;Dimsler;lol
859711;1412532366;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron cool.
859712;1412532433;mircea_popescu;heh that 260 dollar btc bet guy's gonna be pretty pissed
859713;1412532467;TheNewDeal;I have a feeling that sub 300 is going to feel like a dream in about 1 week
859714;1412533081;Dimsler;lol
859715;1412533097;Dimsler;like the jackolantern market peaks in mid november
859716;1412533279;danielpbarron;;;rate ninjashogun 1 http://danielpbarron.com/ninjashogun.log.txt
859717;1412533280;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from -1 to 1.
859718;1412533330;hanbot;mircea_popescu re your latest, didja read the comments on that krugman abortion? no wonder he's all bitter and loath to detail, guy's own readergroup is throwing tomatoes by now.
859719;1412533514;jurov;danielpbarron did he brie you?
859720;1412533520;jurov;*bribe
859721;1412533554;jurov;otherwise i don't see there anything upworthy
859722;1412533738;mircea_popescu;hanbot that's actually interesting huh.
859723;1412533764;mircea_popescu;guy works as a stupid sifter that's not really dragging up that much stupid.
859724;1412533795;mircea_popescu;jurov bribe like, with money ?!
859725;1412533841;jurov;in that log it is not said how
859726;1412533861;jurov;maybe ninja gives good bjs, whatcha know
859727;1412533888;hanbot;mircea_popescu it's like he's become his own LCD
859728;1412533893;kakobrekla; jurov bribe like, with money ?! < with the coins he got from daniel in the first place
859729;1412533950;mircea_popescu;i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever.
859730;1412533978;mircea_popescu;i dunno how one is supposed to have an os without a pipe. ipads, winboxes, the whole shebang. how ?
859731;1412534104;hanbot;you use an h2o| and stop caring about getting anything done?
859732;1412534162;jurov;install an app for every little thing you want to do. oh and pay for the privilege.
859733;1412534244;kakobrekla;see now
859734;1412534245;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/3B6Z890.txt
859735;1412534249;danielpbarron;jurov, my rating doesn't grant voice at the moment
859736;1412534252;kakobrekla;what have you done!
859737;1412534266;TheNewDeal;he's pestering me as well
859738;1412534291;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you hafta add a jukebox to assbot.
859739;1412534303;mircea_popescu;guy puts 1 bitcent in, gets a !up from assbot.
859740;1412534309;mircea_popescu;anyone in chan can still !down of course.
859741;1412534311;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: learn to use your killfile. i did - when first met with mr. spam.
859742;1412534326;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: recall, i suggested this.
859743;1412534332;asciilifeform;(with higher price, if i recall)
859744;1412534332;mircea_popescu;yup
859745;1412534353;mircea_popescu;ideally it'd work on the powers of two. first time a week, 1 bitcent, then 2 4 8 etc
859746;1412534360;mircea_popescu;resets weekly
859747;1412534394;jurov;that would work better if voice could be resold
859748;1412534401;jurov;like btc gem :)
859749;1412534407;mircea_popescu;roflmao
859750;1412534411;mircea_popescu;one ponzi at a time plz.
859751;1412534447;mircea_popescu;"it is unclear if bitcoin has any economic value", says nobel prize laureate.
859752;1412534457;TheNewDeal;what a troll
859753;1412534458;mircea_popescu;because totally, the fact that we can actually do the above now is not economical or valuable.
859754;1412534588;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: usg wasted another hundred million... << if they can't power the waterfall with debt, they'll power it with plundered btc (as being done now, at least as suggested by the publicly known facts.)
859755;1412534617;mircea_popescu;yes, but the plundering has a larger cost to them than to us.
859756;1412534624;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i can't even imagine who would be dumb enough to lend btc to usg, considering the gold obligations affair
859757;1412534633;mircea_popescu;because they have to keep selling us the proceeds of their selftheft below market.
859758;1412534647;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform everyone accounting in dollars.
859759;1412534659;decimation;re: ham bands << the point is that the 'law' already gave those frequencies to the hams, except when it would inconvenience a company to redesign the product
859760;1412534662;mircea_popescu;it's actually a better deal in dollars than to hold on btc.
859761;1412534672;decimation;although if you read the fine print, the police bot is technical secondary to the ham
859762;1412534675;asciilifeform;when usg sets off a bomb in iraqanistan, the metal, trotyl, guidance circuits - are also 'sold' and 'below market' also.
859763;1412534680;mircea_popescu;as the obligation to repay btc held on the usg is actually going to increase somewhat faster than the btc itself
859764;1412534681;decimation;so it would actually be legal to blast it off the air
859765;1412534681;asciilifeform;do they give a damn?
859766;1412534694;mircea_popescu;but there's no bomb here.
859767;1412534695;asciilifeform;decimation: i pointed this out earlier, yes
859768;1412534703;mircea_popescu;when they give the tanks to isis, they give them.
859769;1412534705;mircea_popescu;that's the model.
859770;1412534732;*;asciilifeform gets it
859771;1412534753;asciilifeform;and i suspect usg also gets it. they're banking on just one hope, killing btc somehow through stampede
859772;1412534771;mircea_popescu;it's one of those win-win/lose-lose scenarios. basically they're cutting their herds to drown us in blood
859773;1412534777;mircea_popescu;easier to sit on a ledge than to replace the cattle.
859774;1412534844;mircea_popescu;i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass.
859775;1412534900;decimation;it would be interesting to try to trace the btc in the sr stash
859776;1412534911;asciilifeform;decimation: it was washed in the most elementary way
859777;1412534919;TheNewDeal;I looked up the stashes today
859778;1412534920;asciilifeform;decimation: i.e. traded for a slightly smaller quantity of 'clean'
859779;1412534928;asciilifeform;decimation: in meatspace.
859780;1412534952;decimation;heh the treasury dept. using otc?
859781;1412534957;bounce;apparently it was mr. reid who thought putin doesn't understand how the world works: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2014-03-27/html/CREC-2014-03-27-pt1-PgS1781-6.htm
859782;1412534957;assbot;Congressional Record, Volume 160 Issue 49 (Thursday, March 27, 2014)
859783;1412535019;decimation;well, someone is 'renting' all those miners for over the expected return
859784;1412535027;decimation;there's alot of btc that wants to be washed
859785;1412535043;mircea_popescu;bounce oh was it ?
859786;1412535048;mircea_popescu;tyvm for doing the digging.
859787;1412535171;decimation;personally I find it far more likely that some big bank/'investment house' is doing usg's bidding in exchange for future favors from usg
859788;1412535189;mircea_popescu;that's the allegation.
859789;1412535196;mircea_popescu;hence "agents"
859790;1412535212;asciilifeform;in what way are these folks meaningfully separate entities from usg?
859791;1412535213;decimation;yes, usg is still responsible.
859792;1412535230;decimation;many in the us are easily confused on this point
859793;1412535241;decimation;they think they bank with some local bank, not the fed/fdic/whatever
859794;1412535246;mircea_popescu;qui facit per alium facit per se and all that.
859795;1412535279;TheNewDeal;all the biggest banks are in bed with the fed anyways
859796;1412535309;decimation;TheNewDeal: that's the point, thus the usg is responsible for their actions, as mp just wrote
859797;1412535310;bounce;pffft. they /are/ the fed. it's not actually an usg institution.
859798;1412535321;mircea_popescu;in a sense, thinking about it... the usg problems come down to a poor implementation of the pipe.
859799;1412535332;mircea_popescu;that thing's a lot more fundamental than usually given credit for
859800;1412535344;decimation;'the pipe'?
859801;1412535357;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the pipe - is everything. (hence my crackpot pushing of dataflow as replacement for von neumann computation, etc)
859802;1412535377;bounce;lay down the pipe and open a window. slowly!
859803;1412535379;asciilifeform;von neumann's basic problem is a terrifically bad implementation of the ordinary pipe concept.
859804;1412535379;mircea_popescu;decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2014#859729 and by sheer coincidence http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2014#859774
859805;1412535381;assbot;Logged on 05-10-2014 18:32:30; mircea_popescu: i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever.
859806;1412535382;assbot;Logged on 05-10-2014 18:47:24; mircea_popescu: i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass.
859807;1412535386;mircea_popescu;these actually merge.
859808;1412535391;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/05/finding-your-life-purpose-isnt-your-path-to-improving-the-world-survival-is/
859809;1412535399;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i am starting to comprehend this.
859810;1412535437;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: all of my heresies are in fact in one strand. this is how i ended up 'drinking the spittoon.'
859811;1412535455;asciilifeform;!s the spittoon
859812;1412535455;assbot;3 results for 'the spittoon' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+spittoon
859813;1412535462;mircea_popescu;in fact, if you get the pipe right, it doesn't even actually matter if you get anything else right
859814;1412535468;asciilifeform;yes.
859815;1412535472;mircea_popescu;in this perspective, the blockchain is the major point of bitcoin
859816;1412535489;mircea_popescu;which happens to be correct, and peripherally a point i've oft made, say how "bitcoin is not the derps"
859817;1412535490;decimation;I was thinking about this last night. How can you be certain that your hvac control pipe is not connected to the self-destruct thermite bomb pipe?
859818;1412535535;mircea_popescu;decimation hm?
859819;1412535544;decimation;if they are both connected to the same von neumann machine (or network of such machines) you can't be certain
859820;1412535562;decimation;in the sense that you can check that they are physically unconnected
859821;1412535565;decimation;with your own eyes
859822;1412535567;mircea_popescu;i think these live on different abstraction levels
859823;1412535583;asciilifeform;difficult to work with naked eye on microelectronics.
859824;1412535594;asciilifeform;of whatever kind.
859825;1412535653;decimation;it's difficult to inspect the usg/fed's actions with the naked eye
859826;1412535667;mircea_popescu;depends whose.
859827;1412535685;mircea_popescu;macro events are visible, and the forest-for-trees problem is something one can approach with training and talent
859828;1412535689;mircea_popescu;micro events however are invisible.
859829;1412535737;decimation;I suspect parts of usg/its agents are working against each other
859830;1412535840;TheNewDeal;;;ticker
859831;1412535841;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 310.08, Best ask: 314.48, Bid-ask spread: 4.40000, Last trade: 314.48, 24 hour volume: 53465.06436516, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.337573196
859832;1412536014;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/bitcoin-to-drop-under-260-before-november/
859833;1412536014;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November :: 1.04 B (95%) on Yes, 0.06 B (5%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 98`674 (100`000 to 1)
859834;1412536018;mircea_popescu;i guess this is a hot bet now ?
859835;1412536021;decimation;re: pipes http://rt.com/news/191132-belgium-build-beer-pipe/ "An underground pipeline carrying 5,700 liters of beer an hour will be built in Belgium’s historic city of Bruges. A family-owned brewery will pump beer direct to a bottling plant in the suburbs to cut the number of trucks on ancient cobbled streets."
859836;1412536038;mircea_popescu;pipes as in beer!
859837;1412536038;TheNewDeal;so does a new beer just flush out the old?
859838;1412536062;TheNewDeal;would be interesting to taste the inbetween state
859839;1412536079;mircea_popescu;i imagine if that thing's in use for a few centuries the bugs living in the pipe will be pretty wow.
859840;1412536093;mthreat;my friend owns beer.net. maybe it'll be worth more now!
859841;1412536100;mircea_popescu;as it gives motility a major incentive
859842;1412536141;*;asciilifeform was greatly surprised to learn that one can buy nitric acid on 'amazon' and similar.
859843;1412536153;decimation;I suspect they would have to flush the beer pipe regularly
859844;1412536157;*;asciilifeform thought it was verb0t3n by order of tehFuhrer
859845;1412536178;TheNewDeal;might find a couple street bums trapped in there too
859846;1412536180;joecool;asciilifeform: is it eligible for prime delivery?
859847;1412536184;asciilifeform;nope
859848;1412536271;decimation;oh noes, terrorists are going to be HNO3 off of amazon to make TNT?
859849;1412536293;TheNewDeal;maybe some heavy water as well
859850;1412536315;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: heavy water comes for free out of your faucet.
859851;1412536320;asciilifeform;(all you need to do is separate...)
859852;1412536416;mircea_popescu;well so does nitric acid
859853;1412536657;TheNewDeal;http://dpaste.com/1RG8SQP
859854;1412536658;assbot;dpaste: 1RG8SQP: spamgun, by tnd
859855;1412536677;asciilifeform;lulz
859856;1412536819;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/518840043616878592
859857;1412536820;assbot;GRAPHIC: Islamic State fighter w/ head of female Kurdish fighter after entering Kobani. US strikes did 0 to halt them http://t.co/IfdbZEXpkZ
859858;1412536849;asciilifeform;lol, usa uniform!
859859;1412536873;mircea_popescu;gotta say i lub the kurdish chicks
859860;1412536938;mircea_popescu;i'd be very curious to see first hand if the us based, usg fed "feminists" in the us would actually pick a rifle and a picket, when it comes to it.
859861;1412536958;mircea_popescu;at the rate things are going, this curiosity looks likely to be satisfied.
859862;1412537040;asciilifeform;how many will afford pointy stick, much less rifle.
859863;1412537074;asciilifeform;or is the hypothetical one involving a 20th c. style army, which equips paupers ?
859864;1412537201;mircea_popescu;kurdistan is in the 20th century now ?
859865;1412537211;asciilifeform;re: usa
859866;1412537227;mircea_popescu;bitches better be resourceful, what is this $1200 a month retainer talk ?
859867;1412537303;asciilifeform;http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << unrelated but very useful
859868;1412537304;assbot;Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki
859869;1412537387;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price. << lol! those causes.
859870;1412537401;mircea_popescu;myeah.
859871;1412537429;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
859872;1412537430;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 309.11, Best ask: 309.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 308.83, 24 hour volume: 55108.92934427, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.259223839
859873;1412537434;mircea_popescu;aww.
859874;1412537443;mircea_popescu;;;google but thanks for all the fishes
859875;1412537443;gribble;So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish Quotes by Douglas Adams: ; So Long and Thanks for all the Fish - YouTube:
859876;1412537847;decimation;asciilifeform: thanks for that gentoo -systemd tip. it would be handy to make a systemd-free linux box
859877;1412537920;pete_dushenski;;;nethash
859878;1412537920;gribble;279970409.457
859879;1412537928;pete_dushenski;decent.
859880;1412538813;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/sassenvanelsloo/status/518831715062910976
859881;1412538815;assbot;Capitalism does not work? Well.... http://t.co/LmBncfiu9t
859882;1412538853;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 50(Y):50(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 98,278.
859883;1412538874;pete_dushenski;and with that, i'm off to enjoy the last of this beautiful weather!
859884;1412539880;TheNewDeal;another wall, eh
859885;1412540401;Dimsler;will you stop with the play by play market updates
859886;1412540409;TheNewDeal;will do
859887;1412540858;decimation;;;ticker
859888;1412540859;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.69, Best ask: 308.92, Bid-ask spread: 1.23000, Last trade: 308.69, 24 hour volume: 56551.21451831, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 307.191985978
859889;1412541021;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00074411 = 22.3233 BTC [-] {2}
859890;1412541608;decimation;ben_vulpes: saauce is easy to find, here's one http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/when-the-bourne-shell-found-its-identity.html
859891;1412541608;assbot;An Interview With Chet Ramey – Maintainer Of Bash Shell - nixCraft
859892;1412541651;decimation;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/technology/security-experts-expect-shellshock-software-bug-to-be-significant.html "Mr. Ramey said in an interview on Thursday that he believed he inadvertently introduced Shellshock in a new Bash feature in 1992, though he could not be sure because back then he was not keeping comprehensive logs. "
859893;1412541653;assbot;Log In - The New York Times
859894;1412542194;decimation;he has a blog too http://chetramey.blogspot.com/ "An outspoken progressive in a conservative community."
859895;1412542194;assbot;Ramblings
859896;1412542242;decimation;note to young 'progressive' 'open source' coders: you have swallowed the kool-aid. If you actually want to make a difference and not end up like Mr. Ramey, please focus on the pipes, from the silicon up.
859897;1412542476;Shakespeare;<+mircea_popescu> thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ? /// well, i'll start with the moon: just buy bitfinex and offer the whole shebang! otherwise, just would be nice to trade somewhere more private, transparent and trustworthy. The product could be options,
859898;1412542476;Shakespeare;futures, and margin and leverage would be nice too.
859899;1412542594;Shakespeare;yay on the SR auction bet resolution!
859900;1412542808;Shakespeare;i knew a ham radio enthusiast, he's a free mason now
859901;1412542884;los_pantalones;Shakespeare what kind of size would you trade?
859902;1412542888;los_pantalones;if you had those facilities ?
859903;1412542906;TheNewDeal;size of option?
859904;1412542914;decimation;Shakespeare: ham radio has its share of whackos
859905;1412542932;los_pantalones;how many btc / day
859906;1412543057;Shakespeare;<+mircea_popescu> guy puts 1 bitcent in, gets a !up from assbot. // might be on to something there
859907;1412543073;Shakespeare;i bet it attracts more chatters than not
859908;1412543106;Shakespeare;good way to offset the chill factor from !up
859909;1412543224;kakobrekla;1 satoshi per char for all so everyone will shut the fuck up!
859910;1412543298;bounce;hmno. initially I'd say as long as it isn't the only way. but you'd get peddlers expecting to be heard for their money. you know, query floods, rageddos, etc.
859911;1412543474;Shakespeare;so we !down them
859912;1412543497;Shakespeare;every !down puts 10satoshi debt on their wot
859913;1412543541;Shakespeare;3 !downs and your get assbot negrate
859914;1412543548;bounce;think about it. suppose you're neither l1 or l2, and you stick money in it. you start your valuable because costly pitch. then someone puts the !down on you.
859915;1412543549;kakobrekla;uppers dont have wot
859916;1412543562;Shakespeare;yes they do
859917;1412543569;Shakespeare;thats also a requirment
859918;1412543572;Shakespeare;to self up
859919;1412543583;Shakespeare;the satoshi getsthem the posrate
859920;1412543588;mircea_popescu;buy bitfinex ?! no ty.
859921;1412543604;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't take it for free, as it happens.
859922;1412543605;Shakespeare;also, i'm not saying we'd have to change
859923;1412543614;Shakespeare;we could still up people whenever we want
859924;1412543629;bounce;you're fired up because you want to pitch, and you get rebuffed. gone investment, gone good monies! rage! and it goes downhill from there. -- there's an implied promise with this idea that I'm not happy with.
859925;1412543642;Shakespeare;mp, at least that gives you an idea of where i stand though
859926;1412543648;Shakespeare;i know you wouldnt buy them
859927;1412543661;mircea_popescu;uh... you stand on bitfinex ? lol k, so you buy it.
859928;1412543662;Shakespeare;but i'm saying plz replace them
859929;1412543674;mircea_popescu;what else should i replace ?
859930;1412543678;dub;holy wall
859931;1412543683;Shakespeare;everything that suz
859932;1412543683;Shakespeare;x
859933;1412543685;bounce;what, a retail exchange?
859934;1412543688;mircea_popescu;maybe i should replace obama, but in such a way as to make the usg work the way you want it to ?
859935;1412543688;Shakespeare;it's your job!
859936;1412543691;mircea_popescu;things work the way they work.
859937;1412543695;decimation;yeah do that
859938;1412543700;mircea_popescu;change so that's the way you want them to work.
859939;1412543705;mircea_popescu;i ain't helping you.
859940;1412543731;Shakespeare;tss
859941;1412543732;bounce;then replace obamaman for the social justice angle
859942;1412543748;Shakespeare;i aint asking for the world, you used to offer option after all
859943;1412543755;kakobrekla;draper wall
859944;1412543768;Shakespeare;options&
859945;1412543776;mircea_popescu;mpex options never worked as this popularly delusional "engine to turn derpage into monyz/social relevance"
859946;1412543782;Shakespeare;sry i'm not sober, went to my first football game
859947;1412543789;mircea_popescu;that a bunch of sites promise to do this has everything to do with the promising and nothing to do with the delivering.
859948;1412543818;mircea_popescu;that the derps in question will take something that "maybe" will deliver them the impossible, rather than something that makes it plain it ain't happening is entirely their problem.
859949;1412543837;Shakespeare;what are you on about? how is trading BTC against USD about social relevance and derpage?
859950;1412543839;mircea_popescu;im not in the business of making sites which "maybe" will make random joe blow rich.
859951;1412543847;mircea_popescu;bitfinex is not trading anything.
859952;1412543858;Shakespeare;i'm not talking about bfx
859953;1412543870;mircea_popescu;then im confused.
859954;1412543873;Shakespeare;the premise here was wishing mpex had a way to trade against USD
859955;1412543902;Shakespeare;so i wouldnt have to play where i play
859956;1412543915;mircea_popescu;serious problems with usd delivery.
859957;1412543915;kakobrekla;you can trade otc with optional delivery
859958;1412543919;mircea_popescu;unfortunately.
859959;1412543990;los_pantalones;hence my inquiry into how much you would trade?
859960;1412544010;TheNewDeal;how about bitbet?
859961;1412544051;bounce;what, options on bitbet outcomes?
859962;1412544054;Shakespeare;well that's private los_pantalones
859963;1412544066;TheNewDeal;no. options on bitstamp prices, etc
859964;1412544069;Shakespeare;i shouldnt have to say
859965;1412544089;los_pantalones;it's not worth my time if it would be <100 / week
859966;1412544089;mircea_popescu;o.O
859967;1412544089;kakobrekla;i have in the past dumped coins to sturles and left fiat waiting with him for some months before i decided to repurchase/get fiat
859968;1412544096;los_pantalones;but otherwise i can offer you those facilities
859969;1412544119;mircea_popescu;Shakespeare dude you're something else. "o someone should build a car with wings" "Would you buy one if built ?" "i shouldn't have to say"
859970;1412544125;mircea_popescu;you're spending too much time with redditards.
859971;1412544136;Shakespeare;well in mpex i didnt have to sat
859972;1412544140;Shakespeare;i paid entry fee
859973;1412544152;Shakespeare;that was my qualification
859974;1412544154;decimation;!t m x.eur
859975;1412544154;assbot;[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0026347 / 0.0026347 / 0.0026347 (459 shares, 1.21 BTC)
859976;1412544157;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones so charge the man an entry fee.
859977;1412544173;los_pantalones;how much is mpex these days ?
859978;1412544180;mircea_popescu;still 30.
859979;1412544188;TheNewDeal;basically what an option is, an adequately priced entry fee
859980;1412544194;mircea_popescu;decimation oddly the fully delivered euro future never got very much volumne, historically.
859981;1412544207;kakobrekla;euro market is dead
859982;1412544211;mircea_popescu;i dunno if the requirements to take delivery were too cumbersome or wtf exactly.
859983;1412544216;decimation;seems like euros are good enough for anyone wanting to trade fiat
859984;1412544307;mircea_popescu;but anyway, yeah, i guess the bitbet bets are probably the cheapest/most open avenue at the moment.
859985;1412544325;decimation;obviously the dude is unfamiliar with engineering stuff. it's quite customary to ask for development costs up front, on the assumption that several will be bought
859986;1412544356;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: What's gntra?
859987;1412544392;mircea_popescu;justusranvier qntra. http://qntra.net/
859988;1412544393;assbot;Qntra.net - The #1 Bitcoin Site For News, Views & Commentary
859989;1412544397;mircea_popescu;this maybe coindesk killer.
859990;1412544415;kakobrekla;cuntra?
859991;1412544428;mircea_popescu;pretty much
859992;1412544461;Shakespeare;the qntra blaw should be called uuddlrlrbastart
859993;1412544473;mircea_popescu;"It would be interesting, that is, to ask Coulter about the reflex of lying thats now sutured into the modern conservative movements DNAand to get her candid assessment of why conservative leaders treat their constituents like suckers."
859994;1412544478;Shakespeare;blawg*
859995;1412544488;mircea_popescu;http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/the-long-con << dude the libtard periphery press is awesome
859996;1412544490;assbot;The Long Con - The Baffler
859997;1412544512;justusranvier;I have a long backlog of articles I want to write
859998;1412544521;decimation;maybe they can sign up Mr. Ramey as a guest author
859999;1412544547;mircea_popescu;justusranvier so hammer one out an' send it over.
860000;1412544574;justusranvier;I mostly do editorials, not news
860001;1412544608;TheNewDeal;drapers trying his damndest to get his coin back http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/bitcoin-to-drop-under-260-before-november/#b3
860002;1412544608;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November :: 1.04 B (50%) on Yes, 1.06 B (50%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 97`477 (100`000 to 1)
860003;1412544621;mircea_popescu;justusranvier that was the idea, give it a little editorial anchor
860004;1412544644;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal seems bout even neh ?
860005;1412544733;decimation;I find it hilarious that the lefties in the us keep raising the fear that 'evil republicans will raise money to buy elections' while failing to notice that the lefties receive 'in-kind' contributions from us media worth $bns
860006;1412544734;TheNewDeal;draper put down 1 on yes, trying to recoup with wall
860007;1412544803;mircea_popescu;decimation that is not accountable!!!1
860008;1412544826;justusranvier;I'll see what I can do. Won't be tonight because I've got to go producea couple videos
860009;1412544829;decimation;yeah basically it's 'oh noes they might manipulate the masses like we do!'
860010;1412544835;mircea_popescu;but anyway, the entire "thief screaming thief" and "consumate liar discussing other's dna-sutured bla bla" is rather amusing
860011;1412544853;mircea_popescu;justusranvier doesn't have to be tonight. wait, you produce video too ?!
860012;1412544889;justusranvier;We've started to publish talks from our Bitcoin meetups to YouTube
860013;1412544901;justusranvier;by "produce" I mean I set up the Hangout on Air
860014;1412544948;justusranvier;Tonight is bitstien giving a #bitcoin-otc and GPG contracts tutorial, followed by yamamushi demoing his "filesharing over bitmessage" app
860015;1412544955;mircea_popescu;aha
860016;1412544975;decimation;apparently nixcon actually considered denying the "RF broadcast licenses" of political enemies: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373218/following-trail-nixon-blazed-victor-davis-hanson -- last time I heard someone slightly right-wing come up with a winning strategy
860017;1412544975;assbot;Following the Trail Nixon Blazed | National Review Online
860018;1412545011;decimation;nixcon is a hilarious typo
860019;1412545024;justusranvier;tomorrow is the daniel krawisz reviewing Nick Szebo's "Shelling Out" as a money origin theory
860020;1412545108;Shakespeare;no complaints about the SR bet resolution it seems
860021;1412545118;mircea_popescu;decimation there's an entire conspiracy theory built on the premise that it was really because of the rf thing that the "left" "set him up"
860022;1412545120;Shakespeare;though coindesk is SEOing http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c4105
860023;1412545121;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 months 1 week ago
860024;1412545142;mircea_popescu;much like the more aged libtards today are rewriting the story of clinton's lauhgable gullibiility/idiocy in terms of "hysteria"
860025;1412545146;decimation;they certainly had means, motive and opportunity
860026;1412545167;mircea_popescu;because yea, totally, not being able to tell the nation to go fuck itself and mind its own business on live tv is everyone else's fault but the president's.
860027;1412545169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.14639999 = 1.0248 BTC [+] {3}
860028;1412545189;mircea_popescu;!up veox
860029;1412545207;decimation;heh yeah, the biggest weakness of the presidency is an inability to admit that it sucks
860030;1412545409;Shakespeare;so, would a huge ask order like this be allowed in US markets, or do they have rules about it?
860031;1412545418;bounce;apparently darpa doesn't want just model checking, rather executable encryption that is not encryption: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2691617/ https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&id=a303af332a90b1e84fdb91d7dd382396
860032;1412545419;assbot;DARPA delving into the black art of super secure software obfuscation | Network World
860033;1412545420;assbot;Opportunities - Federal Business Opportunities: Opportunities
860034;1412545431;decimation;you can't even move more than $10k in the us without usg permission
860035;1412545454;Shakespeare;well on stock exchanges you certainly can
860036;1412545465;decimation;sure, inside the account
860037;1412545475;Shakespeare;i'm just wondering if they have rules about manipulative orders
860038;1412545477;TheNewDeal;just try to get your hands on it
860039;1412545480;bounce;without inviting them to sue you on the spot, you mean. you don't get permission, you incriminate yourself and they may or may not persecute you for it.
860040;1412545480;decimation;try moving $50k from your brokerage to your checking account in less than a few days
860041;1412545503;Shakespeare;i moved $30k a few weeks ago, they just made me respond to a message
860042;1412545518;decimation;it's true you can move it quickly with a wire
860043;1412545531;decimation;but I guarantee a notice went to the bank's regulator
860044;1412545532;mircea_popescu;Shakespeare the rule is you can't put up orders you don't intend to go through.
860045;1412545544;TheNewDeal;the question is interesting though. What would the rules be on creating a wall that wasnt executed
860046;1412545572;mircea_popescu;other than that, you can put up whatever walls you wish.
860047;1412545573;Shakespeare;decimation, no notice is needed, exchange files 1099
860048;1412545635;decimation;http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/aml_history.html Bank Secrecy Act (1970) Required banks to (1) report cash transactions over $10,000 using the Currency Transaction Report; (2) properly identify persons conducting transactions; and (3) maintain a paper trail by keeping appropriate records of financial transactions
860049;1412545636;assbot;History of Anti-Money Laundering Laws
860050;1412545656;decimation;whether a 'wire' counts as cash is up to usg of course
860051;1412545706;Shakespeare;yeah either way, it's not money you can hide
860052;1412545720;Shakespeare;exchange reports your income anywya
860053;1412545740;Shakespeare;i bet coinbase & circle will be this way
860054;1412545770;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/is-this-3rd-time-lucky-for-andreas-m-antonopoulos/
860055;1412545779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00124361 = 1.2436 BTC [-] {7}
860056;1412545791;decimation;yeah in general dealing in dollars means dealing with usg
860057;1412545794;mircea_popescu;no "will" involved.
860058;1412545826;decimation;usd is the original altcoin, afterall
860059;1412545901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 500 @ 0.0018875 = 0.9438 BTC [-] {15}
860060;1412548116;cazalla;mircea_popescu, no forum posts to report and prob won't be going forward seeing this qntra thing has legs
860061;1412548148;mircea_popescu;righ
860062;1412548149;mircea_popescu;t
860063;1412548164;mircea_popescu;"central to the right-wing appeal for generations: that liberalism is a species of madness"
860064;1412548187;mircea_popescu;dude they've got it i swear. that's exactly what the problem is with libertards. their preferred ideology is a species of madness.
860065;1412548222;mircea_popescu;!up blast
860066;1412548578;mircea_popescu;!up xor-freenet
860067;1412548646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45813 @ 0.00074302 = 34.04 BTC [-] {3}
860068;1412549932;cazalla;well, that guy from ccn responded
860069;1412549958;cazalla;http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/#comment-4
860070;1412549959;assbot;CryptoCoinsNews Is Anything But News
860071;1412551495;oglafbot;http://oglaf.com/chauncey/
860072;1412551496;assbot;Chauncey, Earl of Gloom
860073;1412552981;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-lawyers-challenge-justice-department-leaky-captcha-theory/
860074;1412553010;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Yeah I was looking for a color that made the hyperlink blue header look good. Solving the Header problem may be more productive than the experiment of cycling all of the background colors
860075;1412553835;cazalla;BingoBoingo, i think it's ok for the time being tbh
860076;1412553857;BingoBoingo;Fair
860077;1412554458;justusranvier;https://twitter.com/TxbtcFrontier/status/518915067757469697
860078;1412554460;assbot;Starting now: https://t.co/V2sF34oeNG
860079;1412554590;cazalla;cool, wat ching
860080;1412554623;Duffer_;who's the guy talking atm?
860081;1412554671;cazalla;not sure but he calls mircea_popescu mursaya
860082;1412554679;Duffer_;yea hehe
860083;1412554731;cazalla;lol doge licking its balls on camera
860084;1412554779;dignork;it's bitstein i'd guess
860085;1412554907;TheNewDeal;justusranvier who is this
860086;1412555839;justusranvier;The last one was bitstien
860087;1412555861;justusranvier;Now we have yamamushi: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cqukfsatq308s00qdhggkp6oegg
860088;1412556019;TheNewDeal;why isn't this just one stream?
860089;1412556222;bitstein;TIL how to actually pronounce Mircea.
860090;1412556231;TheNewDeal;yamamaushi found Satoshi!?!?
860091;1412556266;dignork;TheNewDeal: no, other dude who invented bitcoin before him
860092;1412556280;TheNewDeal;is that a joke?
860093;1412556362;dignork;no, pretty vanilla, Satoshi refered to previous works, hashcash for example, might call it real bitcoin inventor for example :)
860094;1412556406;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kATayK5N--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/rwi4zk7yyxgya1jpgx4v.jpg
860095;1412556552;cazalla;!up pyre
860096;1412556570;cazalla;!up pyre
860097;1412556576;TheNewDeal;you're right, hashcash was obviously bitcoin
860098;1412556626;cazalla;pyre, here ya go http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets do it already
860099;1412556626;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
860100;1412556899;danielpbarron;;;later tell bitstein you demonstrated gpg on an online machine at a meetup?? with your actual key???
860101;1412556900;gribble;The operation succeeded.
860102;1412557042;BingoBoingo;Sad say http://bigstory.ap.org/article/22931ec39fd04b768dbfcc5aab24413b/ousted-haitian-dictator-jean-claude-duvalier-dies
860103;1412557043;assbot;Ousted Haitian dictator, Jean-Claude Duvalier dies
860104;1412557049;dignork;danielpbarron: well, it was really low-res, and only a pub-key
860105;1412557052;justusranvier;The two streams because it means the videos are automagically seperate
860106;1412557064;danielpbarron;dignork, so?
860107;1412557074;justusranvier;TheNewDeal: ^
860108;1412557149;TheNewDeal;Did Al Gore invent the internet?
860109;1412557156;dignork;;;gpg info bitstein
860110;1412557156;gribble;User 'bitstein', with keyid 1EA2662DEB2FEFBE, fingerprint 2CEA814804FCF14D9C1AE8EA1EA2662DEB2FEFBE, and bitcoin address None, registered on Sat May 24 16:06:12 2014, last authed on Sun Oct 5 20:42:25 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=bitstein . Currently not authenticated.
860111;1412557178;dignork;danielpbarron: if this is his key, it's public anyway ^
860112;1412557259;danielpbarron;the fact that he'd decrypt a message with his key on an online, os x, machine is already bad -- then he goes on to show others this insecure method to initiates
860113;1412557318;danielpbarron;-others // it's bad for Bitcoin
860114;1412557387;BingoBoingo;MSG Shakers at Restaurant tables, 'Murica https://twitter.com/Missionstfood/status/518132336181780480/photo/1
860115;1412557389;assbot;Authenticity option now available at MCF SF. /davidchang /hashtag/hospitality?src=hash http://t.co/JbYrdnf8x2
860116;1412557433;danielpbarron;it shouldn't be that difficult to demonstrate an offline setup, which is the experience new users should become accustomed with -- especially the kind of people who already think they are hip to crypto
860117;1412557580;danielpbarron;wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions
860118;1412557597;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl
860119;1412557635;TheNewDeal;that was quite hilarious
860120;1412557637;dignork;well, you need two computers for that, or hardware crypto gadget (cardano is not there yet)
860121;1412557650;jborkl;Rough weekend for the price
860122;1412557660;danielpbarron;so? is it not possible to do without cardano?
860123;1412557707;dignork;possible ofcourse, two machines, cumbersome presentation
860124;1412557742;danielpbarron;well, the presentation is incomplete without such a demonstration
860125;1412557771;BingoBoingo;jborkl: Well, for someone the next few years are going to be rougher than the price as of late
860126;1412557774;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
860127;1412557775;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 299.98, Best ask: 299.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 300.0, 24 hour volume: 66795.52283458, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 306.021103061
860128;1412557802;danielpbarron;lest the noobs in the audience go home and actually use their key in such an insecure manner
860129;1412557877;dignork;danielpbarron: well, most crypto-related presentation i've seen did not include faraday cage, while some would say it was a flaw, I'm just assuming "omitted for clarity"
860130;1412557907;danielpbarron;for the sake of argument that it is too cumbersome, he stilled used his real key
860131;1412557931;xanthyos;dude $305
860132;1412557932;jborkl;Bingoboingo, you think the price will continue sliding? Or nfi
860133;1412557957;xanthyos;so much for my $360 (10 double chai) prediction
860134;1412557987;BingoBoingo;jborkl: Well at some point it will stop sliding
860135;1412557987;*;xanthyos is always left holding the bag
860136;1412557995;TheNewDeal;I know dimsler won't like this, but the wall has returned
860137;1412558008;jborkl;Heh true..
860138;1412558040;TheNewDeal;#wallwatch
860139;1412558132;thickasthieves;hehe, people are eating the wall
860140;1412558170;TheNewDeal;love it
860141;1412558173;TheNewDeal;might have to take a bite
860142;1412558173;thickasthieves;such angel whale
860143;1412558178;dub;touch the furry wall
860144;1412558186;thickasthieves;$300 coins for all!
860145;1412558265;TheNewDeal;News headline tomorrow "Tim Draper lasted a total of 4 months in the bitcoin-sphere, managing to lose approximately 70% of his original investment"
860146;1412558328;dub;but he's been into bitcoin since 2000
860147;1412558357;mod6;heheh
860148;1412558436;thickasthieves;btce is above stamp now
860149;1412558442;thickasthieves;dem pesky 5%s
860150;1412558480;TheNewDeal;yes I'm curious why the whale is on stamp exclusively
860151;1412558496;thickasthieves;to be fair there are big wallers everywhere
860152;1412558504;thickasthieves;stamp might be chosen because no margin
860153;1412558519;TheNewDeal;no margin ?
860154;1412558526;dub;stamp is the new gox
860155;1412558536;dub;its where teh speculation forum is looking
860156;1412558538;thickasthieves;well on bitfinex you can buy 3.3:1
860157;1412558548;TheNewDeal;oh I gotcha
860158;1412558572;thickasthieves;and there are like 10k or so btc shorted that need to be covered there
860159;1412558573;xanthyos;stroke the furry walls
860160;1412558595;TheNewDeal;suprised that they didn't just bump it up like 1$ after 5k buys or whatever
860161;1412558609;thickasthieves;12,000+ shorts actually
860162;1412558626;thickasthieves;well the guy has been selling for days
860163;1412558627;xanthyos;russell brand's going to have to stroke some furry walls hard enough to tear the shag out if he keeps attaching his name to max keiser's cryptocoin
860164;1412558629;thickasthieves;maybe months
860165;1412558662;thickasthieves;really all this funkiness started just before the SR auction
860166;1412558670;thickasthieves;we bubbled in May
860167;1412558678;dub;I dont think wallguy is a seller
860168;1412558678;thickasthieves;went flat
860169;1412558685;thickasthieves;then down down down for mos
860170;1412558700;thickasthieves;ok ok we sound like reddites now
860171;1412558720;thickasthieves;fun times tho
860172;1412558865;TheNewDeal;please do explain dub
860173;1412558889;TheNewDeal;they're just in the process of eating up coins?
860174;1412558962;dub;ask reddit
860175;1412559069;mircea_popescu; well, that guy from ccn responded << which ?
860176;1412559119;cazalla;mircea_popescu, Kyle Torpey, the one that went on keiser spruiking auroracoin, ethereum etc
860177;1412559126;mircea_popescu;oh lol
860178;1412559144;mircea_popescu;how is he "from cnn" again ? i forget.
860179;1412559207;mircea_popescu;oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/chauncey/ <<< angry owlchick is pretty hawt
860180;1412559208;assbot;Chauncey, Earl of Gloom
860181;1412559208;cazalla;ccn as in cryptocoinsnews
860182;1412559224;dub;you have your irrelevant news outlets transposed
860183;1412559234;cazalla;^^
860184;1412559309;mircea_popescu;wait, wut?
860185;1412559476;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: Did Al Gore invent the internet? << no but if the darpa derps were satoshi-minded they'd probably have referenced some pacific islanders as their inspiration just ot mess with people.
860186;1412559504;TheNewDeal;:D
860187;1412559519;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: -others // it's bad for Bitcoin << i doubt the airgapped bitcoin machine is all that common.
860188;1412559521;dub;could be why they got the coolest 2ld (co.ck)
860189;1412559555;mircea_popescu;cu.nt is cooler than di.ck
860190;1412559578;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions << you purist you.
860191;1412559651;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: News headline tomorrow "Tim Draper lasted a total of 4 months in the bitcoin-sphere, managing to lose approximately 70% of his original investment" << i wouldn't be worried about that, he's served the golden toilet empire, he's coming back.
860192;1412559667;mircea_popescu;shit, romney is still around. why'd draper go away.
860193;1412559692;mircea_popescu;dub: its where teh speculation forum is looking << this, pretty much.
860194;1412560469;dub;dat nick
860195;1412561101;TheNewDeal;;;ident nezzario
860196;1412561101;gribble;Nick 'nezzario', with hostmask 'nezZario!~nez@unaffiliated/nezzario', is not identified.
860197;1412561668;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/american-green-to-continue-bitcoin-vending-machine-rollout/
860198;1412562494;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 165 @ 0.01025554 = 1.6922 BTC [-] {3}
860199;1412562653;TheNewDeal;;;nethash
860200;1412562654;gribble;280343971.467
860201;1412562910;mircea_popescu;!up parfait
860202;1412564049;ben_vulpes;;;ticker
860203;1412564050;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 299.99, Best ask: 300.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 300.0, 24 hour volume: 69682.98346975, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 305.387793681
860204;1412564070;ben_vulpes;was that 30k ask real life?
860205;1412564133;mircea_popescu;notrly.
860206;1412564142;mircea_popescu;our good friends the suckers of america running out.
860207;1412564158;mircea_popescu;hm maybe i misspelled "the people"
860208;1412564172;Dimsler;the ask was/is fake
860209;1412564175;Dimsler;it stopped the sell off
860210;1412564186;Dimsler;trading penny stock basics
860211;1412564203;Dimsler;he set the market and waited for a challenger
860212;1412564204;mircea_popescu;Dimsler the wall was on the sell side.
860213;1412564210;Dimsler;correct
860214;1412564241;Dimsler;but its premise could be to market make
860215;1412564335;Dimsler;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker
860216;1412564335;assbot;Market maker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
860217;1412564364;Dimsler;i used to do this on cavritex
860218;1412564364;mats_cd03;lol
860219;1412564365;Dimsler;lol
860220;1412564396;mats_cd03;a wiki article
860221;1412564398;ben_vulpes;i...
860222;1412564409;Dimsler;right, what else did you want?
860223;1412564442;Apocalyptic;Dimsler, you're aware that here wikipedia is not particularly regarded as a worthy source of information ?
860224;1412564463;Dimsler;look
860225;1412564472;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpif-fmpif-september-2014-statement/
860226;1412564478;Dimsler;i usually proof read wikipedia articles before i post them
860227;1412564478;*;ben_vulpes rotates head 180deg
860228;1412564494;mircea_popescu;http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/law-3 << not a bad read, this.
860229;1412564495;assbot;Three Years on Rikers Without Trial
860230;1412564515;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many russians and how many chinese citizens are in prison for 3 years without a trial.
860231;1412564516;Dimsler;is this the black kid that they forgot about?
860232;1412564520;Dimsler;yeah i know
860233;1412564529;mircea_popescu;but something tells me that per capita, the us is like the worst human rights offender in africa
860234;1412564538;mircea_popescu;certainly not part of the first world.
860235;1412564579;Dimsler;the majority of the five eyes are human rights tramplers
860236;1412564584;mircea_popescu; i usually proof read wikipedia articles before i post them << well the notion that market makers are a topic on which wikipedia has something to impart here.... okay :)
860237;1412564592;Dimsler;its ingrained in the anglo saxon mentality to trample rights
860238;1412564607;ben_vulpes;;;gettrust assbot Dimsler
860239;1412564608;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Dimsler!~dimsler@17.254.127.199.client.static.strong-in67.as13926.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Dimsler: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Dimsler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dimsler | Rated since: Tue Oct 22 13:51:07 2013
860240;1412564630;Dimsler;mircea_popescu, i was meerly posting as interest to novice inquirers on market makers
860241;1412564630;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes i think i'm the guilty party. starting to get on yer nerves ?
860242;1412564646;Dimsler;not sure what the constant obession
860243;1412564650;Dimsler;with my wot is
860244;1412564663;ben_vulpes;it's a constant obsession with everyone's wot, Dimsler.
860245;1412564673;ben_vulpes;just curious.
860246;1412564682;ben_vulpes;sides, what do i know, i'm just the court jester
860247;1412564785;ben_vulpes;all of these social sites - engagement is via the "submit" button.
860248;1412564811;Dimsler;lol
860249;1412564850;mircea_popescu;fuck that shit im changing it.
860250;1412564870;ben_vulpes;i think it's nicely apropos.
860251;1412564919;ben_vulpes;also deviantart apparently lost their "prev" and "next" buttons.
860252;1412564960;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes now trilema says send. pls to check it still worx.
860253;1412564970;Dimsler;can you change submit to capitulate
860254;1412564988;Dimsler;thats what most social media should have
860255;1412564990;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: looks good
860256;1412565013;ben_vulpes;oh no way
860257;1412565024;ben_vulpes;there's some retarded state management
860258;1412565037;ben_vulpes;navigate to galleries, get to a thing
860259;1412565041;ben_vulpes;*now* prev/next appears
860260;1412565047;ben_vulpes;this is an abuse of sessions, i tell you
860261;1412565106;Dimsler;buttons are archaic
860262;1412565109;Dimsler;its all about the swype
860263;1412565114;Dimsler;must swype
860264;1412565126;HeySteve;hey Dimseler, how do you know it's fake volume?
860265;1412565148;ben_vulpes;evening, Vexual
860266;1412565150;Dimsler;well it may very well not be fake volume
860267;1412565165;ben_vulpes;quit waffling Dimsler
860268;1412565178;Dimsler;shutup ben_vulpes
860269;1412565180;Vexual;good evening
860270;1412565183;Dimsler;theres only one thing guaranteed in life
860271;1412565193;Dimsler;everything else is speculation
860272;1412565199;HeySteve;sure. some guy wants out his position, he is saying "this is how much more I have to unload, the pain will continue until it's sold."
860273;1412565212;ben_vulpes;penny stock basics, it is fake volume, it's not fake volume
860274;1412565217;dub;thats pretty unlikely
860275;1412565218;HeySteve;now a larger whale is challenged to buy him out to protect his holdings
860276;1412565228;ben_vulpes;someone's a market maker, here have a wp link
860277;1412565234;Dimsler;he basically set the market at 300
860278;1412565237;Vexual;this is sparta!
860279;1412565243;mircea_popescu; penny stock basics, it is fake volume, it's not fake volume << just about.
860280;1412565278;Dimsler;plenty nefarious reasons to hang a large order out
860281;1412565284;Dimsler;whether its to stop a sell of
860282;1412565285;HeySteve;right, but it's $9m, I heard mentioned? probably someone has more to lose than $9m. if btc hits single digits, so probably someone will buy that much
860283;1412565304;Dimsler;he may also have alot of money
860284;1412565307;Dimsler;on the exchange in fiat
860285;1412565311;HeySteve;of course, it could be a fake. but markets are an interesting game for this reason
860286;1412565313;Dimsler;and is buying people coins
860287;1412565323;Dimsler;that are wanting to sell below $300
860288;1412565326;Dimsler;at $295 lets say
860289;1412565341;dub;hey gais, theres a for this buttcointalk.org/adhd oslt
860290;1412565346;dub;a forum too
860291;1412565347;mircea_popescu;^
860292;1412565369;ben_vulpes;#bitcoin-pricetalk
860293;1412565377;Dimsler;get the fuck out here
860294;1412565382;Dimsler;what did you want to talk about?
860295;1412565382;mircea_popescu;;;unrate Dimsler
860296;1412565385;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for Dimsler.
860297;1412565385;mircea_popescu;!down Dimsler
860298;1412565387;ben_vulpes;!down Dimsler
860299;1412565403;mircea_popescu;not doing your reading in a groupo is not an excuse for not having done your reading
860300;1412565407;mircea_popescu;it's an aggravating circumstance.
860301;1412565419;ben_vulpes;dunno
860302;1412565422;ben_vulpes;not penny stocks, Dimsler
860303;1412565430;ben_vulpes;not price manip
860304;1412565434;Dimsler;i missed the groupo link somehow
860305;1412565447;ben_vulpes;kakobrekla: can we do something about this rating lag?
860306;1412565455;ben_vulpes;and by we i mean you and also please
860307;1412565456;HeySteve;I'm listening to Antifragile audio book atm. heard it mentioned bitcoin is antifragile, could it be said to be antifragile to price action?
860308;1412565474;HeySteve;(mentioned in btc circles, that is)
860309;1412565475;mircea_popescu;dude...
860310;1412565476;ben_vulpes;the price of bitcoin in whatever fiat whatever matters not one whit
860311;1412565489;mircea_popescu;this has got to be deliberate.
860312;1412565496;Dimsler;lol
860313;1412565498;TheNewDeal;!s heysteve
860314;1412565499;assbot;1161 results for 'heysteve' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=heysteve
860315;1412565547;ben_vulpes;no, the spamgun shartup recruiter is deliberate
860316;1412565552;ben_vulpes;this is just stochastic bouncing
860317;1412565560;mircea_popescu;i guess.
860318;1412565571;HeySteve;ok no pricetalk then
860319;1412565589;mircea_popescu;HeySteve it's the approach not the topic that grates.
860320;1412565621;Dimsler;no you're just being an asshole
860321;1412565654;mircea_popescu;that also, but unrelatedly.
860322;1412565665;ben_vulpes;yes it is, no it's not, up is down unless the whale is pink
860323;1412565678;ben_vulpes;walls to the left, but it's a sell day, peg the price, gag me with a fork
860324;1412565713;mircea_popescu;%d
860325;1412565714;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 305626.20 in 519 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.73
860326;1412565715;ben_vulpes;head and shoulders means a 260 bottom (i'll show you a bottom worth 260), sr, fucking vc's, tim draper
860327;1412565732;mircea_popescu;that shit sure feels like forever.
860328;1412565750;Apocalyptic;^
860329;1412565757;Vexual;%tslb
860330;1412565758;atcbot;Time Since Last ATC Block (#45849): 0 hour(s), 13 minutes
860331;1412565777;ben_vulpes;;;bcstats
860332;1412565779;gribble;Current Blocks: 324053 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 522 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35104507259.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.27831
860333;1412565796;HeySteve;that's all very well, but bitbets are announced here. they seem like similar propositions, will price go up or down?
860334;1412565821;TheNewDeal;I usually find an animal, slice in two, read the entrails
860335;1412565829;TheNewDeal;give's a pretty good prediction
860336;1412565837;Dimsler;lol thats from south park
860337;1412565850;TheNewDeal;it's from history
860338;1412565852;TheNewDeal;they actually did it
860339;1412565862;HeySteve;the roman augurs and soothsayers, yeah
860340;1412565867;Dimsler;lol ok yes
860341;1412565892;TheNewDeal;has there been a SP that referenced bitcoin?
860342;1412565901;Dimsler;neg
860343;1412565902;HeySteve;flight of birds, guts of goats, sounds cleaner to specialise in bird flight if that's your thing
860344;1412565904;Dimsler;only simpsons
860345;1412565908;ben_vulpes;there are more things in heaven and earth Dimsler than are derped of in south park
860346;1412565909;dub;dude never read asterix comics?
860347;1412565936;mircea_popescu;i don't think they have that french pinko commie stuff in the us of a
860348;1412565947;Dimsler;the south park episodes premise was based on the fall of the roman empire
860349;1412565965;Dimsler;i am pointing out as modern satire
860350;1412565979;HeySteve;it's ironic when modern americans address the decline of rome
860351;1412565981;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: http://www.powells.com/s?kw=asterix&class= << au contraire
860352;1412565984;assbot;Search Results - Powell's Books
860353;1412565992;mircea_popescu;a nm
860354;1412566006;thickasthieves;<+HeySteve> I'm listening to Antifragile audio book atm. heard it mentioned bitcoin is antifragile, could it be said to be antifragile to price action? /// yep, pretty much everything is good for bitcoin
860355;1412566014;ben_vulpes;although i never bought 'em, i just took them to the cafe in powells and read them there
860356;1412566014;thickasthieves;reddit thinks this is a joke
860357;1412566020;thickasthieves;but its funny cuz its true
860358;1412566034;HeySteve;sure, the "this is actually good news" meme
860359;1412566053;thickasthieves;yep, it really is
860360;1412566067;thickasthieves;they think it's ironic cuz the news' relation to price
860361;1412566067;HeySteve;well the drop will clean out some of the silliest, so there's that
860362;1412566096;thickasthieves;what's good for bitcoin isnt always good for price
860363;1412566130;thickasthieves;i do think this is having a calibrating effect and the seller is doing a service to btc
860364;1412566139;TheNewDeal;nice little 1200 chunk outta that wall, for those interested of course (dimsler)
860365;1412566160;TheNewDeal;explain
860366;1412566188;thickasthieves;i meant it pretty broadly, lots of examples
860367;1412566197;Dimsler;lol
860368;1412566202;thickasthieves;the exchange price disceprencies are reset
860369;1412566207;Dimsler;ofcourse hes doing everyone a favour
860370;1412566209;thickasthieves;weak hands lost coins
860371;1412566215;thickasthieves;etc
860372;1412566245;thickasthieves;and the price will likely spike *after* he's done selling
860373;1412566259;thickasthieves;such saintliness
860374;1412566262;ben_vulpes;classic oscillator.
860375;1412566270;Dimsler;well he basically masks everyones weak hand
860376;1412566275;BingoBoingo;https://i.imgur.com/XJCZKt6.jpg
860377;1412566278;ben_vulpes;people model this shit with oscillators, right?
860378;1412566285;TheNewDeal;loving the bingoboingo art tonight
860379;1412566288;thickasthieves;lol bingo
860380;1412566297;BingoBoingo;The20YearIRCloud: Found linked on reddit
860381;1412566304;BingoBoingo;Not my original work
860382;1412566323;The20YearIRCloud;heh
860383;1412566367;HeySteve;that's pretty good
860384;1412566450;Dimsler;lol reddit
860385;1412566456;Dimsler;collection of vile scum
860386;1412566461;Dimsler;http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Bitcoin-Unlocking-Digital-Crypto-Currencies/dp/1449374042
860387;1412566462;assbot;Mastering Bitcoin: Unlocking Digital Crypto-Currencies: Andreas M. Antonopoulos: 9781449374044: Amazon.com: Books
860388;1412566465;Dimsler;oh look andreas has a book out now
860389;1412566483;ben_vulpes;you're late, Dimsler qntra already covered it
860390;1412566487;TheNewDeal;there was an article that touched on it earlier
860391;1412566506;TheNewDeal;dimsler https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z
860392;1412566506;assbot;Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip
860393;1412566506;ben_vulpes;this whole doing your reading thing may be distasteful but it's not optional
860394;1412566517;Dimsler;oh for fuck sakes
860395;1412566526;ben_vulpes;it's pretty simple
860396;1412566531;ben_vulpes;!s antonopolous
860397;1412566532;assbot;13 results for 'antonopolous' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=antonopolous
860398;1412566548;ben_vulpes;also search.bitcoin-assets.com
860399;1412566555;TheNewDeal;has he ever made an appearance in #ba?
860400;1412566573;Dimsler;no
860401;1412566578;The20YearIRCloud;we should have around a 17% dividend this cycle
860402;1412566579;Dimsler;hes afraid of mircea_popescu killing him
860403;1412566587;The20YearIRCloud;based on usd/btc prices
860404;1412566625;TheNewDeal;who is the "we" you're speaking of the20yearircloud ?
860405;1412566632;Vexual;rent
860406;1412566636;The20YearIRCloud;rentalstarter
860407;1412566644;The20YearIRCloud;on havelock
860408;1412566650;Vexual;annnualizzzzed?
860409;1412566657;The20YearIRCloud;yes
860410;1412566672;The20YearIRCloud;based on .005 share price
860411;1412566708;Vexual;whats that like half pc on the average?
860412;1412566743;ben_vulpes; no << how would you know?
860413;1412566755;Dimsler;well fuck
860414;1412566763;Dimsler;i've been here since early 2013?
860415;1412566783;Dimsler;haven't heard anyone mention him ever since mircea_popescu twattered that he was going to kill him
860416;1412566808;ben_vulpes;> ever
860417;1412566810;ben_vulpes;> 2013
860418;1412566811;ben_vulpes;mhm
860419;1412566829;Dimsler;lol
860420;1412566853;mircea_popescu;The20YearIRCloud shouldn't it be based on 0.0075 ?
860421;1412566882;The20YearIRCloud;on 0075 its around 10%
860422;1412566887;ben_vulpes;haha
860423;1412566892;The20YearIRCloud;.005 was our original ipo price
860424;1412566893;ben_vulpes;yeah how do you calculate a price for RENT
860425;1412566904;ben_vulpes;it's market until you need more cash then you freeze it
860426;1412566916;ben_vulpes;"but our investors are cool with it broski!"
860427;1412566937;The20YearIRCloud;this last one was specifically requested by our largest investor so he could buy shares. I tried to do it outside of havelock but they wouldn't let me
860428;1412566962;BingoBoingo;Priorities >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/05/2124205/linux-317-kernel-released-with-xbox-one-controller-support
860429;1412566962;assbot;Linux 3.17 Kernel Released With Xbox One Controller Support - Slashdot
860430;1412566965;Vexual;The20YearIRCloud: When do you expect to start servicing loans?
860431;1412566981;The20YearIRCloud;we aleady have one loan
860432;1412567004;The20YearIRCloud;unless youre talking npns
860433;1412567012;Vexual;are you using the money yet?
860434;1412567014;ben_vulpes;he couldn't buy shares at market?
860435;1412567018;The20YearIRCloud;yes\
860436;1412567026;The20YearIRCloud;no shares at market were going to the company
860437;1412567033;The20YearIRCloud;and his investment would have increased price to around .02
860438;1412567047;ben_vulpes;so you fucked everyone else.
860439;1412567082;ben_vulpes;well done.
860440;1412567102;dub;its called QE ben_vulpes
860441;1412567109;dub;it halps ok
860442;1412567126;The20YearIRCloud;Those wanting to sell below .0075 have been cleared already, and i've made it well known throuh investor communication that we had originally planned on selling more shares at the 2nd round IPO price at some time in the future
860443;1412567192;Vexual;is labour gonna get more expensive if you grow?
860444;1412567202;ben_vulpes;how is this any different from printing dollars?
860445;1412567206;ben_vulpes;or pesos?
860446;1412567219;dub;no different to mpif
860447;1412567243;The20YearIRCloud;Vexual: maybe
860448;1412567253;Dimsler;ben_vulpes, or they could just keep your bitcoins instead
860449;1412567257;Dimsler;with bots that manipulate the exchange
860450;1412567269;The20YearIRCloud;not a huge need for more IPOs, the reason for this last one was so the speicfic investor could fund a very specific property that had a good return
860451;1412567276;The20YearIRCloud;plenty of that already Dimsler
860452;1412567286;Dimsler;oh ofcourse there is
860453;1412567286;ben_vulpes;more ipos
860454;1412567287;Dimsler;lol
860455;1412567288;ben_vulpes;jesus shit
860456;1412567293;dub;Dimsler: there is such a thing as putting down the shovel
860457;1412567411;The20YearIRCloud;my hope was $100k cash + $100k LOC and then set aside the money 50/50 for flips & rental renovations so we'd always have money for a flip, which hasn't been the case since last July
860458;1412567454;ben_vulpes;i want a "feed me live baby rats" shirt
860459;1412567483;ben_vulpes;most recent oglaf has inspired peals (i tell you PEALS) of laughter around her
860460;1412567485;ben_vulpes;here*
860461;1412567495;ben_vulpes;anyways, night scammers
860462;1412567513;Vexual;with the latest offering, what btc price kills your growth?
860463;1412567537;The20YearIRCloud;Really has no effect, but the BTC yield will look crummy at $2500 or more per BTC
860464;1412567545;dub;ur killing my growth Vexual
860465;1412567606;Duffer1;btc skyrockets, us real estate corrects = /wrist?
860466;1412567647;Vexual;do you get paid in dollars The20YearIRCloud?
860467;1412567657;The20YearIRCloud;Yield will certanly go down, our equity position overall is pretty great when you factor our average BTC sell price. Big question is when does it correct, how far does the pricing drop? We're still about 20% lower than peaks
860468;1412567659;The20YearIRCloud;Yeah
860469;1412567717;Vexual;what did you sell the latest offering @?
860470;1412567740;Vexual;must have fucked your arerage
860471;1412567744;The20YearIRCloud;Haven't yet :( , HL has been slow on transfering BTC to us, so there's been some exposure to loss due to the massive decrease in BTC price
860472;1412567765;The20YearIRCloud;Our average overall will stand at something like $400/btc though, including the original 1,000 BTC we got on BF that was sold when BTC was around $80/btc
860473;1412567982;Vexual;havelock must be just about operating at a loss now
860474;1412567995;The20YearIRCloud;i knd of wonder
860475;1412568030;The20YearIRCloud;from my standpoint it doesnt matter, internally we are doing great
860476;1412568411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00074357 = 19.5559 BTC [+] {2}
860477;1412568439;Vexual;when are you moving to the 70% wage?
860478;1412568468;The20YearIRCloud;don't know, talking to investors and there's a possibility i won't
860479;1412568498;The20YearIRCloud;right now i can go to 70% on mill & logan, but instead i've personally been taking around a 25%-30% wage and just putting the rest of it back into the company account
860480;1412568503;Vexual;53 is fairly handsome
860481;1412568519;The20YearIRCloud;havent been taking irt
860482;1412568522;The20YearIRCloud;*it
860483;1412568538;Vexual;makes sense
860484;1412568551;The20YearIRCloud;ive been taking 750-1000/mo this year out of an allowed $1500-$3500
860485;1412568557;Vexual;i assume you're a shareholder tooo
860486;1412568561;The20YearIRCloud;yes
860487;1412568592;The20YearIRCloud;i've put almost all my btc/liquid buying stock back overlast week
860488;1412568921;Vexual;"putting it back into the company account" this means you gift it to the company?
860489;1412568959;Vexual;or can you take it back out again?
860490;1412569524;The20YearIRCloud;i'm tallying the difference, figure some day when company is flush with cash i'll cash out
860491;1412569559;The20YearIRCloud;but i dont plan on really taking anything out, too much incentive for me to do that
860492;1412569586;Vexual;i could hear your calculator from here
860493;1412569667;The20YearIRCloud;its on the spreadsheet
860494;1412570020;thickasthieves;for a while the coinbase price was same as bitstamp, 300
860495;1412570026;thickasthieves;now it's 1% higher
860496;1412570037;thickasthieves;even though bitstamp wall is still there
860497;1412570053;thickasthieves;lil skimmers
860498;1412570075;thickasthieves;its all good though, now they wont get 1% from me
860499;1412570094;thickasthieves;(was gonna arb)
860500;1412570265;TheNewDeal;on shitstamp, if someone has 15000 coins at 300, and then I place 1 coin @ 300, how do they choose which coin is purchased? First come first serve?
860501;1412570316;thickasthieves;yes
860502;1412570326;thickasthieves;have to wait in line
860503;1412570333;thickasthieves;so sell for 299.99
860504;1412570354;asciilifeform;re: DARPA obfuscator grants << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481151
860505;1412570356;assbot;Logged on 05-02-2014 03:56:24; asciilifeform: i venture to say that the actual goal of general-purpose (or whatever approximation is possible) homomorphic crypto is quite different.
860506;1412570404;asciilifeform;and, in general:
860507;1412570412;asciilifeform;!s homomorphic
860508;1412570413;assbot;23 results for 'homomorphic' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=homomorphic
860509;1412570475;mircea_popescu;wtf vexual is now like doing financial auditing
860510;1412570480;mircea_popescu;how long have i been away!
860511;1412570492;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: An eternity in cointime
860512;1412570499;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
860513;1412570501;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 299.41, Best ask: 300.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 299.42, 24 hour volume: 72840.32833589, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 304.241790685
860514;1412570523;mircea_popescu;73k eh.
860515;1412570525;TheNewDeal;really now
860516;1412570553;asciilifeform;there's a reason no one but usg funds the 'homomorphic' work. it is - their wet dream.
860517;1412571095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10524 @ 0.00074236 = 7.8126 BTC [-]
860518;1412572071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074236 = 9.5764 BTC [-]
860519;1412572328;thickasthieves;http://blog.okcoin.com/2014/10/06/who-is-leading-the-bitcoin-price-change/
860520;1412572330;assbot;Who is Leading the Bitcoin Price Change – OKCoin Blog
860521;1412572335;thickasthieves;"As I am writing this, BitStamp & BTC-e prices (300) are 3% lower than OKCoin (311) and other Chinese exchanges, indicating users outside of China are driving down the prices, and China is following the price drop. Simple as that!"
860522;1412572359;thickasthieves;so i guess its okcoin's stamp wall
860523;1412572408;Vexual;i still say its sparta
860524;1412572492;thickasthieves;this is
860525;1412572708;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all
860526;1412572715;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 300.0, vol: 74725.66270778 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 303.33, vol: 24330.77289 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 309.76, vol: 91335.63288959 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 309.99, vol: 109.04095822 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 309.718512, vol: 76657.88270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 304.9, vol: 53.23614283 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 327.997737405, vol: 150.19677005 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
860527;1412572994;xanthyos;BingoBoingo: why is thedrinkingrecord down?
860528;1412573012;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: Hosting company messing with servers
860529;1412573048;xanthyos;wow
860530;1412573070;thickasthieves;coinbase price 312 now
860531;1412573078;thickasthieves;fukn asshats
860532;1412573177;thickasthieves;lol that Circle test i wanted to do a few days ago, they said my purchase "failed"
860533;1412573221;thickasthieves;Status: Canceled
860534;1412573225;thickasthieves;thats all the info
860535;1412573340;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/2-bitcoin-users-who-decided-to-break-bad/
860536;1412573393;thickasthieves;Circle price is 304 +8.82 in fees fwiw...
860537;1412573831;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: You know unlike silver this seems the perfect way to break JP Morgan. Buy BTC with credit cards, send to external address default on the card.
860538;1412573863;thickasthieves;yeah pretty good leak
860539;1412573883;thickasthieves;bitcoin is proof that black holes exist
860540;1412573887;thickasthieves;:)
860541;1412573916;Vexual;spend the next 8 years chillin with ross
860542;1412574323;*;Vexual likes qntra.net : telling me shit i din't know
860543;1412574409;punkman;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20223.0
860544;1412574409;assbot;Stockgeneration.com The Forgotten Lessons We Learned & Mt Gox.
860545;1412575491;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
860546;1412575492;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 299.99, Best ask: 300.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 300.0, 24 hour volume: 75859.24168345, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 335.0, 24 hour vwap: 303.733033662
860547;1412575636;Duffer1;lower than btce i
860548;1412575643;Duffer1;i don' think i've ever seen that before
860549;1412575713;cazalla;happened a few times this year
860550;1412576067;RagnarDanneskjol;!s tea leaves
860551;1412576068;assbot;12 results for 'tea leaves' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tea+leaves
860552;1412576463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35156 @ 0.0007423 = 26.0963 BTC [-] {2}
860553;1412576678;Vexual;im with tat, i think this 300 wall is designed to have some kind of glvanizing effect
860554;1412576726;Vexual;not like the galvanic scale, but, like, you know
860555;1412576762;RagnarDanneskjol;designed by whom
860556;1412576770;Vexual;like the chemical boothers song
860557;1412577187;Vexual;i really have no idea
860558;1412577406;RagnarDanneskjol;https://blockchain.info/charts/miners-revenue
860559;1412577406;assbot;Bitcoin Miners Revenue
860560;1412577521;Vexual;when exactly did they change the algo from gpu to asic?
860561;1412577563;dub;wat
860562;1412577569;RagnarDanneskjol;yea wat
860563;1412577576;Vexual;wait, how does that chart work?
860564;1412577611;RagnarDanneskjol;its just an estimate of total net revenue capture by miners i believe
860565;1412577620;Vexual;i might be thinking of the eclectricity one
860566;1412577628;RagnarDanneskjol;algo has always been the same
860567;1412577659;Vexual;so its a price chart?
860568;1412577682;RagnarDanneskjol;no, more like a profit chart
860569;1412577754;RagnarDanneskjol;this might be more relevant https://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin
860570;1412577754;assbot;Bitcoin Mining Operating Margin
860571;1412577821;Vexual;-50k%sounds like gpu calcs to me
860572;1412577946;Vexual;but hey if the shit works, why change it right?
860573;1412577992;RagnarDanneskjol;mmm anyone mining with gpu at this point would be operating at massive loss, so doubt that contributes much to the miner stats
860574;1412578123;Vexual;yeah about -50000%
860575;1412578165;Vexual;those charts are borked
860576;1412578182;RagnarDanneskjol;probably
860577;1412579177;Vexual;actually, if you fix the second one, and compare it to the first one, you might get something interesting
860578;1412579616;Vexual;bigpicturemining would be the crew to talk to
860579;1412579622;Vexual;irk
860580;1412579693;Vexual;making a collection of every asic released, dates, cost, j/w hash/$ volume etc
860581;1412579908;Vexual;jouls per wot? 300 gone
860582;1412580159;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.05760644 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 31(Y):69(N) by coin, 32(Y):68(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.3742731 BTC. Current weight: 92,528.
860583;1412580198;Duffer1;hehe every last satoshi that guy had
860584;1412580209;Vexual;tell me about it
860585;1412580285;punkman;http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/square-raises-150-million-at-a-6-billion-valuation/
860586;1412580414;Duffer1;"Square, a six-year-old start-up, spent much of its early years giving away free credit card readers to small and medium-sized businesses, asking for 2.75 percent of each transaction"
860587;1412580452;Vexual;fucking square wheel more like
860588;1412580463;Duffer1;well said
860589;1412580493;Duffer1;2.75% is obscene
860590;1412580495;Vexual;ty
860591;1412580528;Vexual;so is carrying another dohickey to sell your wares at the local market
860592;1412580550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.0007424 = 12.361 BTC [+]
860593;1412580572;Vexual;150m, why?
860594;1412580584;Duffer1;i would neverrrr let some random asshat at a market scan a card
860595;1412580595;Duffer1;here, please commit every fraud you can think of
860596;1412580597;Vexual;with a skimmer
860597;1412580611;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0007424 = 3.3779 BTC [+]
860598;1412580612;punkman;http://localregister.amazon.com/
860599;1412580613;assbot;Amazon Local Register - Accept credit and debit cards on your Fire, iPhone, iPad, or Android device.
860600;1412580671;Vexual;theres a scoop cazalla, the 150m card skimmer
860601;1412580727;Vexual;doesnt even fucking blootuth
860602;1412580932;Vexual;perhaps something got left out of the story, but prolly not
860603;1412580947;Duffer1;shartup
860604;1412581005;Vexual;ooh
860605;1412581090;Vexual;cmon that must be wrong, like the minercost chart on blackchain.info, just because its the ny times doesnt mean they haven't left out some vital component of the truth
860606;1412581343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 125 @ 0.00984244 = 1.2303 BTC [-] {4}
860607;1412581529;Vexual;i see yo uagree duffer, i just like to channel bb sometimes
860608;1412581542;Duffer1;hehe
860609;1412582409;Vexual;asciilifeform: do you know anything about spiNNaker?
860610;1412582492;Vexual;perhaps something like this will be brave enough to invent perpect homomorphic encryption
860611;1412583703;Vexual;u rhink i may have confused dp with pb
860612;1412583715;Vexual;*i think
860613;1412583884;Vexual;so its danielpbarron and pete_dushenski
860614;1412583984;Vexual;and julia t isn't the same that wore the "my 6990 makes it rain" t
860615;1412584317;Vexual;and namworld and naphex are entirely different entities
860616;1412584515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00074431 = 21.1384 BTC [+]
860617;1412584950;Naphex;hi o/
860618;1412585003;Vexual;the more boss twin
860619;1412585138;Vexual;excuse the fact i summoned you, i was working trhu some dixleksia
860620;1412585143;Vexual;whats new
860621;1412585234;Vexual;its like the intro to windowlicker
860622;1412585304;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBS4Gi1y_nc
860623;1412585395;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
860624;1412585396;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 322.61, Best ask: 326.49, Bid-ask spread: 3.88000, Last trade: 322.58, 24 hour volume: 94647.98592502, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 335.0, 24 hour vwap: 303.726283925
860625;1412585728;BingoBoingo;Ask wall consumed.
860626;1412585752;BingoBoingo;https://imgur.com/g9nnuSi
860627;1412585752;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
860628;1412586178;Vexual;prolly loaded
860629;1412586228;Vexual;on his way to macau
860630;1412586408;Vexual;how many dollars was it?
860631;1412586418;Vexual;6 milly?
860632;1412586461;Vexual;guy like that could stay for years before he ends up in the opium dens
860633;1412586530;BingoBoingo;Maybe up to 9 million. $3 million came to kill it in a minute. http://instagram.com/p/tzgottjwBZ/
860634;1412586530;assbot;Instagram
860635;1412586592;Vexual;foods better up on the hill
860636;1412586873;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoin-prices-dip-under-300-rebound/
860637;1412586905;Vexual;fuck you guys really are reworking coindesk
860638;1412586993;Vexual;just with fresher shit, pwnd
860639;1412587022;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I'm still working into a rhythm, but that's the aim.
860640;1412587045;Vexual;instagram is all java nd shit
860641;1412587063;Vexual;migth wanna stel the vid and host it
860642;1412587116;BingoBoingo;Well that dude made the authoritative video record. Maybe someone invites him here and in the future he considers saner hosting for his works.
860643;1412587281;Vexual;steal and link
860644;1412587319;Vexual;mp4 dl with a screenshot, voila youtube
860645;1412587384;Vexual;wehn you're getting 10k hits, get 10 in
860646;1412587421;Vexual;or not
860647;1412587451;Vexual;anoraks can go around on their own, it's prolly good business
860648;1412587572;Vexual;but if youre doing html 1.0, like you know
860649;1412587682;BingoBoingo;http://videos-g-14.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10724316_347577092084614_254283947_n.mp4
860650;1412587692;Vexual;voila
860651;1412587713;Vexual;so anorack
860652;1412587809;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31239 @ 0.00074247 = 23.194 BTC [-] {2}
860653;1412587861;Vexual;now i can see i ton my nintendo ds
860654;1412587870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.0007417 = 7.8249 BTC [-] {2}
860655;1412587941;Vexual;if it works on opera...
860656;1412587971;Vexual;i dunno what, but any cat can see it
860657;1412588293;cazalla;BingoBoingo omfg "ask wall's life can to an end"
860658;1412588324;BingoBoingo;fixed
860659;1412588401;BingoBoingo;News shouldn't happen when I wake up for my midsleep snack
860660;1412588724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1006 @ 0.00074431 = 0.7488 BTC [+]
860661;1412589354;punkman;so I read a lot of electrum's code and now I'm sad
860662;1412589396;BingoBoingo;damn
860663;1412589444;Vexual;why sad?
860664;1412589445;punkman;I got it working at least, I think
860665;1412589523;punkman;oh wait there's a /tests/ dir, I missed that
860666;1412589585;punkman;wasn't there in 1.9.8
860667;1412589790;punkman;v2 will be better
860668;1412590468;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-schildbach-releases-4-0-version-of-bitcoin-wallet-for-android/
860669;1412590592;Vexual;that qntra sure is low on bullshit, it's all facts
860670;1412590621;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Well the point for now is clean stuff. Turd Free.
860671;1412590644;Vexual;it's good
860672;1412590670;BingoBoingo;Or at least when a turd is newsworth the coverage is free of introducing fresh turds
860673;1412590819;Duffer1;i read the BRO article and was shocked
860674;1412590833;Duffer1;zero snark
860675;1412590866;Duffer1;the author must have an iron will
860676;1412591075;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: cazalla covered that.
860677;1412591106;Duffer1;it's good
860678;1412591120;BingoBoingo;cazalla: The fearless and serious Leader of qntra
860679;1412591134;Duffer1;so are you still doing your own blog or is it a merged effort?
860680;1412591198;Vexual;this ones a newspaper, blogs are for little girls
860681;1412591233;Vexual;and hipsters
860682;1412591250;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: I'm still doing my own blog where I still do editorial sort of commentary and stuff I find interesting
860683;1412591250;Vexual;or are newspapers for hipsters?
860684;1412591282;BingoBoingo;I though hipsters had tumblrs
860685;1412591335;Vexual;newspaper men get paid, eventually
860686;1412591364;Vexual;or was that the 60s?
860687;1412591471;Vexual;usually by some unexpected mechanism
860688;1412591517;Vexual;it goes by the name of success
860689;1412591786;Vexual;ive gone all noir
860690;1412591824;Vexual;she tells me it's on her tumbler, like she think i know what that is
860691;1412591899;Vexual;listen doll, i know a lot of things, but im hungry
860692;1412592118;Vexual;no, steak
860693;1412592440;Vexual;i rode in the front, i was done with talking and i was only picking up half the conversation, and in any case, i didnt know the driver, and I wanted to keep an ey eon him
860694;1412592592;BingoBoingo;My favorite part of this gritty noir Vexual is that I can't tell if your story is fiction
860695;1412592727;RagnarDanneskjol;doesnt matter
860696;1412593012;Vexual;apparentyl you're not supposed to smoke here, two whisky sours and a table at the back
860697;1412593039;Vexual;thats service
860698;1412593292;Vexual;they dont know me here, and neither does she
860699;1412593299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00074447 = 7.9658 BTC [+]
860700;1412593433;BingoBoingo;http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man6/bs.6
860701;1412593442;BingoBoingo;Time to go back to sleep
860702;1412593465;Vexual;phew i thought id have to come up with some dialogue
860703;1412593949;Vexual;id woken up late, the portugese was the first clue, but now i see a game of battleship in progress in the light at the front
860704;1412593955;Vexual;"brazil?"
860705;1412594031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074383 = 7.4383 BTC [-] {2}
860706;1412594103;Vexual;she wasn't talking abou ttumbler a all
860707;1412594150;Vexual;two more whisky sor, and something for the lady
860708;1412594658;Vexual;i pored a glass of riorja for myself as my steak smoked from the kitchen
860709;1412594702;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47480 @ 0.00074459 = 35.3531 BTC [+] {2}
860710;1412595533;Vexual;she spoke something about her father and the resurant before i hear the word that snapped me from my coma
860711;1412595617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10211 @ 0.00074483 = 7.6055 BTC [+] {2}
860712;1412595650;Vexual;id decided it was a word
860713;1412595692;Vexual;but tonight i knew it was a name
860714;1412595861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.00960012 = 0.528 BTC [+]
860715;1412596060;thickasthieves;was the name Ava?
860716;1412596075;thickasthieves;Doris?
860717;1412596075;Vexual;okay
860718;1412596227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25007 @ 0.00074565 = 18.6465 BTC [+]
860719;1412596328;fluffypony;Fluffypony?
860720;1412596346;Vexual;you come in later
860721;1412596349;fluffypony;score!
860722;1412596436;thickasthieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/10/05/krugmania-as-bitcoins-price-falls-the-nyt-pundit-takes-a-very-premature-victory-lap/
860723;1412596437;assbot;Krugmania: As Bitcoin's Price Falls, The NYT Pundit Takes A (Very?) Premature Victory Lap - Forbes
860724;1412596870;Vexual;that reads like it'd trasnlate well into mandarin
860725;1412596993;thickasthieves;lol
860726;1412596999;Vexual;no joke
860727;1412597102;Vexual;possibly too well
860728;1412597132;Vexual;keyphrases stick out
860729;1412597706;Vexual;perhaps im just distrustful of forbes
860730;1412597739;mircea_popescu;ah brother, what a night.
860731;1412597753;Vexual;what happened?
860732;1412597771;mircea_popescu;i have that distinct feeling experienced by the commander of a relief unit upon taking over at 8am the utterly battered but holding units of the nightguard regiment, surrouinded by a pile of corpses as high as the battlements
860733;1412597778;mircea_popescu;fucking love the smell of napalm in the morning.
860734;1412597792;Vexual;sat agent orange right?
860735;1412597809;mircea_popescu;sure.
860736;1412597814;mats_cd03;not a lot of things translate well to mandarin
860737;1412597832;mircea_popescu;also sure.
860738;1412598102;Vexual;damn he got fucked good
860739;1412598118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00074579 = 12.7903 BTC [+] {3}
860740;1412598434;Vexual;you okay boss?
860741;1412598488;*;Vexual makes coffee
860742;1412598719;mircea_popescu;%d
860743;1412598731;mircea_popescu;o i see how it is.
860744;1412598789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00074173 = 5.4146 BTC [-]
860745;1412598853;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmb3XR5280
860746;1412598924;mircea_popescu;no, moarlike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCnoOzrA1o
860747;1412598924;assbot;Pavarotti La Donna e Mobile Moscow 1964 - YouTube
860748;1412599068;Vexual;now theres a man that likes an aritchoke or two
860749;1412599157;Vexual;he look better without a beard
860750;1412599324;BingoBoingo;You know it's fitting that Oreilly's animal department sorts Andreas's work as the "Ant Book"
860751;1412599342;mircea_popescu;lol
860752;1412599352;BingoBoingo;data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAoHBwgHBgoICAgLCgoLDhgQDg0NDh0VFhEYIx8lJCIfIiEmKzcvJik0KSEiMEExNDk7Pj4+JS5ESUM8SDc9Pjv/2wBDAQoLCw4NDhwQEBw7KCIoOzs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozs7Ozv/wAARCAFVAQQDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAGwABAAIDAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGAQMEAgf/xABQEAABAwMABQMMDwcDBAIDAAABAgMEAAURBhIhMVETQWEUFRciMjRVcXOBkbEHNTZkcnSSk6GisrPR0uEWI0JUlMHwM1JiJDeC8ZXCJSZT/8QAGgEBAQEBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAA
860753;1412599352;BingoBoingo;AAAECAwQFBv/EAC0RAAIBAgQFBAICAwEAAAAAAAABAgMREhMhUQQUMTJSM0FhcSKBQqEjQ7HB/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwC+WKxQrhbTKlKmLdVJkAkTnkjAeWAAAsAAAAeapH9lbVwm/wDyEj89NFfaMfGpP37lTBoD5tpzb27U/ETBkTmQ4lRVie8c4xxXVZLdySwHzKugaO5wy3tX061XbT8tC7Wov/6IJ5T4OsM/RXEgXcX1x2U4rrZlWuon9wWeYDm3buevVCyitD69DCqUW0v2VlMa7KJCXrsSnfiS/s+tXltm6PKUluRdVlBwoJlPHHj7arHCuLZsanp0ualK52qHGV4UBqDGejFSB5Z1y6ZYmZDrIT1GrK1pCVYUTzgjaa1dbG3NJ2cEUwtXMKKTJuoUDqkdVPZzvx3Va0rmrzqzrirAy
860754;1412599353;BingoBoingo;cTHjgce6q42xKwsJWmQF9ck7JG1z/SO+om02q4MPS2nYTyFvQ3Q2lSCCo4GwVbx2NqVPW8UQp6uGoTNuQ1+5/6x7tvF222i+rm86825JwcHWmPDbw7qrFbVy7fBktzoZDsFvqiLywIKFE6u7nG3PjFV1x913PKOKVlRUcneTvNaSTfQ6wjCTf4qx45WV4RuH9a7+anKyvCNw/rXfzVilawR2OmVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2G
860755;1412599360;BingoBoingo;VT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2RnlZXhG4f1rv5qcrK8I3D+td/NWKUwR2GVT2R9I0ZsEGdo/FkyVzXHVg6yjPf29seC6lf2VtXCb/8AISPz1r0N9y0P4KvtGpyvBPuZ+dqq1SX2VyVb49tdDMbldRSdY8o8tw53b1Enm3UrqvPfaPJj1mlYMGdFfaMfGpP37lTFQ+ivtGPjUn79ypmqQgNI9F0aQusLXKUzyIIwEZznH4VEdjlJQEG6u6gOQnk9nrq7UraqSSsmd48RVgsKehR+xs1jHXNzHDkh+NZHscIG66O/N/rV3pVzZ7mubreRSOxujwo582PxrPY4RnPXV3Pk/wBau1KZs9xzdbcpB9jds77o4eb/AEx+NY7GrXhJf
860756;1412599365;BingoBoingo;zQ/GrxSmbPcvN1l/Io/Y1a8JL+aH407GrXhJfzQ/GrxSmbPcc5X8ij9jVrwkv5ofjTsateEl/ND8avFKZs9xzlfyKP2NWvCS/mh+NOxq14SX80Pxq8Upmz3HOV/Io/Y1a8JL+aH407GrXhJfzQ/GrxSmbPcc5X8ij9jVrwkv5ofjTsateEl/ND8avFKZs9xzlfyKP2NWvCS/mh+NOxq14SX80Pxq8Upmz3HOV/Io/Y1a8JL+aH407GrXhJfzQ/GrxSmbPcc5X8ij9jVrwkv5ofjTsateEl/ND8avFKZs9xzlfyKP2NWvCS/m
860757;1412599369;BingoBoingo;What the fuck Amazon
860758;1412599440;mircea_popescu;o.O
860759;1412599473;BingoBoingo;!up Diablo-D3
860760;1412599475;Vexual;any more good voices mircea_popescu? im almost outta spanish wine
860761;1412599480;Diablo-D3;BingoBoingo: what part of it
860762;1412599488;Diablo-D3;like, you know what a data uri is right?
860763;1412599522;mircea_popescu;Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrYuebMNmg
860764;1412599522;assbot;Maria Callas Opera Arias : La Traviata, Norma, Madama Butterfly, Lucia di Lammermoor & many others - YouTube
860765;1412599535;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: speaking of which
860766;1412599552;Diablo-D3;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas
860767;1412599553;assbot;polyphonic overtone singing - Anna-Maria Hefele - YouTube
860768;1412599604;mircea_popescu;why do they do all this intro stuff.
860769;1412599613;mircea_popescu;first some random logos. then "hi im x and im going to do y"
860770;1412599651;mircea_popescu;but other than that she's ok.
860771;1412599723;Vexual;shit, coitus interuptus, but still
860772;1412599805;Vexual;she'd be good on the didgeridoo
860773;1412599945;Vexual;mot much magic in it tho
860774;1412600222;Vexual;maria callas id happily die to
860775;1412600447;BingoBoingo;Oh, Bloomberg explicitly does politics nao http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2014-10-05/can-america-root-for-a-town-that-cant-root-for-its-team
860776;1412600448;assbot;Can America Root for a Town That Can't Root for Its Team? - Bloomberg Politics
860777;1412600460;Diablo-D3;bloomberg is slowly becoming a real news outlet
860778;1412600462;Vexual;we had this converation
860779;1412600465;Diablo-D3;which Im honestly okay with
860780;1412600477;Diablo-D3;even if they just repeat the usual bullshit, we still need more of them
860781;1412600483;punkman;BingoBoingo: making website faster by embedding base64 encoded images in the HTML, just doesn't feel right
860782;1412600522;mircea_popescu;it's bad for caching at any rate.
860783;1412600572;mircea_popescu;if every time a browser asked for a trilema page it actually had to get all the images as base64 i'd have a major problem on my hands.
860784;1412600829;Diablo-D3;punkman: it depends entirely on what you're doing
860785;1412600836;Diablo-D3;like, you can shove that into css
860786;1412600838;Diablo-D3;and then cache the css
860787;1412600867;punkman;Diablo-D3: whether it feels right doesn't depend on anything
860788;1412600900;punkman;whether it works and how well, that's another matter
860789;1412600957;mircea_popescu;Diablo-D3 the problem isn't the serverside caching, but the client side caches.
860790;1412600980;Diablo-D3;mircea_popescu: erm, why do you think I was talking about serverside caching?
860791;1412600980;mircea_popescu;virtually all browsers know enough to not redld a navigation pic, but virtually all will re-dld the base64 blob
860792;1412600993;Diablo-D3;its about cutting down on the cost of http connection cost
860793;1412601012;Diablo-D3;its easier to base64 stuff for small images than it is to make explicit requests for them
860794;1412601022;Vexual;this is why pankakkke left
860795;1412601022;mircea_popescu;but the browser will only request them once.
860796;1412601029;mircea_popescu;Vexual quite possible.
860797;1412601036;Diablo-D3;its also why building sprite layouts are so damned nice
860798;1412601047;mircea_popescu;sigh.
860799;1412601053;mircea_popescu;the web is not an extension of cable tv.
860800;1412601064;Diablo-D3;Vexual: why, because this channel no longer serves its purpose? Ive been considering taking this off my autojoin
860801;1412601089;Vexual;no,
860802;1412601093;Vexual;o dunno
860803;1412601123;Vexual;i think he got shitty about some conversation or other
860804;1412601185;Vexual;hes prolly just got some shithot contracty eating up bullshittier bullhit and hell be back
860805;1412601295;mircea_popescu;Duffer1: 2.75% is obscene << i thought paypal was doing like 3.5
860806;1412601327;Apocalyptic;%d
860807;1412601328;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 305828.28 in 507 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.72
860808;1412601343;Apocalyptic;still 500 blocks, damn
860809;1412601367;mircea_popescu;Duffer1: i would neverrrr let some random asshat at a market scan a card << definitely. i don't understand all the geriatric derps giving away their card in like restaurants and whatnot. it's patent insanity, like a third of restaurant workers are on drugs, it's the junkie central. more so than jail.
860810;1412601392;mircea_popescu;and then you're going to give them the most broken implementation of pgp and let them be provately for fifteen minutes ?
860811;1412601393;mircea_popescu;nuts.
860812;1412601430;Duffer1;iirc paypal and square have the same rates
860813;1412601440;Duffer1;= too much
860814;1412601447;mircea_popescu;maybe pp went down to match. or maybe i;m way behind the times.
860815;1412601476;mircea_popescu;http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?311025-aware-paypal-users-request-for-more-than-3-5-up-to-6-!!-fee-for-paypal
860816;1412601480;mircea_popescu;maybe not.
860817;1412601499;mircea_popescu;2.9% + 30c
860818;1412601508;mircea_popescu;hi Naphex
860819;1412601546;Duffer1;ah 3.5 for manual entry (no reader)
860820;1412601554;punkman;I think it goes to 4% or so when I send "friends and family"
860821;1412601670;mircea_popescu;going to the records of the past 6 hours... dude it's great being on the side of the invincible doom.
860822;1412601781;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: Fluffypony? << fluffypony!
860823;1412601784;Vexual;this is sparta!
860824;1412601788;fluffypony;AND MY AXE!
860825;1412601796;Vexual;your in son
860826;1412601826;BingoBoingo;Of course being the invicible doom is great. Have you seen the corpses the nightguard put up?
860827;1412601831;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/10/05/krugmania-as-bitcoins-price-falls-the-nyt-pundit-takes-a-very-premature-victory-lap/ <<< no "krugman derps on his times blog, then mp pens a fuck you post and then all hell breaks lose" ? i'd have preferred that approach.
860828;1412601832;assbot;Krugmania: As Bitcoin's Price Falls, The NYT Pundit Takes A (Very?) Premature Victory Lap - Forbes
860829;1412601839;mircea_popescu;if nothing else, it's truer to history.
860830;1412602015;punkman;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2i9prw/desperate_how_long_to_hold_out_what_would_you_do/
860831;1412602015;assbot;Desperate: How long to hold out / What would you do in my situation : Bitcoin
860832;1412602060;mircea_popescu;ahhh, what reddit's for.
860833;1412602078;kakobrekla;>but I chose to make this account because my girlfriend is a redditor too and I don't want to get any backlash by posting this on my main account.
860834;1412602079;kakobrekla;lol
860835;1412602103;punkman;"I cannot understand why this is happening. I made some serious money several times but for the past 6 months or so I have taken huge losses."
860836;1412602166;mircea_popescu;universal advice for all redditard problems : 1. quit reddit never to return ; 2. quit your current bs "job/studies" and get a real job ; 3. quit your current bs" relationship", spend a year celibate then get a real relationship ; 4. stop saying high to your current "friends"
860837;1412602169;Vexual;do you forbes fluffypony? you're the funniest cunt on this hemisphere
860838;1412602182;mircea_popescu;punkman yeah srsly i wonder why this is happening.
860839;1412602197;fluffypony;Vexual: Forbes? like the magazine?
860840;1412602208;Vexual;no like trolling the bloggers
860841;1412602218;mircea_popescu;Vexual fluffypony is not the funniest cunt, kakobrekla is the funniest cunt.
860842;1412602230;punkman;different hemispheres
860843;1412602231;Vexual;is he southern hemisphere?
860844;1412602238;mircea_popescu;ow shit.
860845;1412602250;punkman;wait isn't Somalia in the south one
860846;1412602253;mircea_popescu;pwned by geometry in my own web of longitudes
860847;1412602273;mircea_popescu;;;google is somalia even a real cuntry
860848;1412602273;gribble;Piracy in Somalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; History of Somalia (1991–2006) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Why is Somalia still even called a "country"? - Democratic Underground: (1 more message)
860849;1412602282;kakobrekla;lolk
860850;1412602289;punkman;guess it's right above the line
860851;1412602299;mircea_popescu;i got the answer to that, dear democratic underground. IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE WORLD WORKS!
860852;1412602311;Vexual;kakobrekla IS FROM SOMALIA?
860853;1412602316;mircea_popescu;no
860854;1412602321;mircea_popescu;but somalia is from kakobrekla
860855;1412602331;Vexual;bitchin
860856;1412602347;mircea_popescu;we totally need someone from nigeria incidentally. anyone know a nigerian ?
860857;1412602355;BingoBoingo;Wait, I thought kakobrekla was the funniest cock, but sounds like tits...
860858;1412602360;mircea_popescu;preferably a banging euro chick, 1m80 with blue eyes
860859;1412602363;mircea_popescu;but i'd settle for less.
860860;1412602364;*;Vexual puts his hand up
860861;1412602405;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe throw it in the orderbook?
860862;1412602411;Vexual;i can get you 10money washin email sending nigerians here tommorrow
860863;1412602427;mats_cd03;kako is from slovakia
860864;1412602437;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 nuh-uh.
860865;1412602442;mircea_popescu;he's from slovenly
860866;1412602446;mats_cd03;huk
860867;1412602460;mircea_popescu;jurov is from slovakia
860868;1412602473;mats_cd03;o rite
860869;1412602476;mats_cd03;;;ud huk
860870;1412602477;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Huk | Words related to Huk ... huk huk huk dood my ugly fat cuzzin isnt cummin ova tho otay? ... -fuk naw, thats skoo iz hella (huk), n i aint tryna get shot. by jr_inc.
860871;1412602477;mircea_popescu;(albeit the difference is nigg-legible)
860872;1412602589;Vexual;you're fuckin with my dislexia now
860873;1412602656;mircea_popescu;;;seen JuliaTourianski
860874;1412602656;gribble;JuliaTourianski was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 13 hours, 17 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: that's one of the best reactions I've gotten. at least they're not discussing what i look like.
860875;1412602666;mircea_popescu;;;later tell JuliaTourianski oi!
860876;1412602667;gribble;The operation succeeded.
860877;1412602730;RagnarDanneskjol;imma see her at the vegas thing later today
860878;1412602834;mircea_popescu;tell her to say hi
860879;1412602853;RagnarDanneskjol;i'll give her a big wet kiss for you
860880;1412603055;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all
860881;1412603061;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 325.0, vol: 93573.34211630 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 326.534, vol: 25927.10737 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 332.5, vol: 89113.6403918 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 325.26, vol: 121.4857689 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 332.873904, vol: 79006.44170000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 337.48812, vol: 64.31767626 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 326.248, vol: 165.84079253 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
860882;1412603138;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol> i'll give her a big wet kiss for you << mp suddenly caught a glimpse of his own old age ;/
860883;1412603161;mircea_popescu;i'll have all these numerous hotties i can no longer fuck, that other people will be sucking the life out of, "for me".
860884;1412603171;RagnarDanneskjol;ahaa
860885;1412603197;mircea_popescu;i guess it's better to end up as the deified avatar of human relations than any alternative fate.
860886;1412603214;RagnarDanneskjol;sure
860887;1412603218;mats_cd03;i'm about to cross the horizon
860888;1412603227;mats_cd03;of the ego black hole
860889;1412603227;Vexual;that wont translae into madarin well at all
860890;1412603236;mats_cd03;wish me luck
860891;1412603239;mircea_popescu;tho being an oversized scorpion dragonfly would be pretty cool too
860892;1412603243;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 where you goin; ?
860893;1412603281;kakobrekla;sounds like he'll be smoking DMT or some shit
860894;1412603291;mircea_popescu;if this guy kills himself and then there's no end of media wanting to know "what was he like"
860895;1412603294;Vexual;yah or 3 tabs of acid
860896;1412603308;mircea_popescu;i swear to god ima train a bot to say "he was a quiet guy, wenevercouldhaveimagined" etc
860897;1412603349;BingoBoingo;"I dunno seemed like he had some legitimate greviances they way he said it..."
860898;1412603371;mircea_popescu;"it was the government dude"
860899;1412603411;mircea_popescu;then the news reports all over forbes, "financial world epidemic extends to bitcoin : b-a participant in hong kong found stapled to death"
860900;1412603423;Vexual;father of 24 and bitcoin advocate mats cd, aged whatever tranceded last night in whatevr county
860901;1412603466;mircea_popescu;you know that's not a bad honorific ? "bitcoin's advocate general", sort-of like a grand inquisitor
860902;1412603479;BingoBoingo;Illinois man literally disappears into thin air. IRC channel suspects lasers involved.
860903;1412603522;mircea_popescu;in your case BingoBoingo
860904;1412603526;mats_cd03;i was referring to the ego madness that is being in your periphery mircea_popescu
860905;1412603527;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure it would be thick air.
860906;1412603542;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 oh!
860907;1412603554;mircea_popescu;you meant MY ego ?!?!?!11?!?
860908;1412603576;mats_cd03;indeed
860909;1412603587;mircea_popescu;unfathomable.
860910;1412603627;mats_cd03;although 3 tabs of acid sounds pleasant
860911;1412603637;mircea_popescu;make it two tabs and a supository.
860912;1412603643;Vexual;thats not wha i read on erowid
860913;1412603647;mircea_popescu;acid fingertrap.
860914;1412603669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21841 @ 0.00074172 = 16.1999 BTC [-] {2}
860915;1412603687;Vexual;yeah youll need your fingers for looking at and shit
860916;1412603731;mats_cd03;i once sobbed over the beauty of the universe while sitting on the shore of a lake watching a bird
860917;1412603745;Vexual;dub was asking after some viagra earlier
860918;1412603746;mats_cd03;its like... the cycle of life, man.
860919;1412603811;mats_cd03;09:50:12 <+mircea_popescu> then the news reports all over forbes, "financial world epidemic extends to bitcoin : b-a participant in hong kong found stapled to death" >> wtf that is terrifying
860920;1412603819;mircea_popescu;yw.
860921;1412603838;Vexual;id be stapled to death
860922;1412603855;Vexual;no problem, id still be fresh for work the next day
860923;1412603906;Vexual;wait death?
860924;1412603956;lampelina;https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-sell-wall-death-chomped/
860925;1412603956;assbot;Bitcoin Sell Wall of Death Being Chomped
860926;1412604013;kakobrekla;bottom gif is funny
860927;1412604086;Vexual;drop dead fred is on it?
860928;1412604118;Vexual;i got couldfared
860929;1412604135;mircea_popescu;hey lampelina what are you doing these days ?
860930;1412604147;lampelina;cooking
860931;1412604149;lampelina;and cleaning
860932;1412604153;kakobrekla;lel
860933;1412604157;lampelina;why, looking for a cook? :D
860934;1412604173;mircea_popescu;lampelina no, that i have, but how would you like trying to write an article for the qntra thing ?
860935;1412604193;lampelina;article about what
860936;1412604198;mircea_popescu;bitcoin news.
860937;1412604215;mircea_popescu;and speaking of which
860938;1412604220;Vexual;qntra, thats it!
860939;1412604240;mircea_popescu;;;later tell hanbot hey you have till friday to write an article and get cazalla to accept it!
860940;1412604240;gribble;The operation succeeded.
860941;1412604260;lampelina;maybe-do tell more
860942;1412604274;mircea_popescu;lampelina im actually writing it up, so i'll drop you a link in an hour.
860943;1412604293;lampelina;I'm far from expert on BTC btw
860944;1412604312;lampelina;in fact I know very little about it
860945;1412604315;mircea_popescu;yeah but you can ask kako.
860946;1412604319;lampelina;true
860947;1412604327;Vexual;lampalina that sell wall chomped article dropped there preciously (qntra)
860948;1412604345;mircea_popescu;unlike most girls that hang out with some reddit derp who has no clue.
860949;1412604349;mircea_popescu;so advantage you.
860950;1412604362;lampelina;indeed :)
860951;1412604394;kakobrekla;im busy
860952;1412604400;lampelina;shut up kakobrekla
860953;1412604401;mircea_popescu;don't be an asshole kako!
860954;1412604407;mircea_popescu;i got the patent.
860955;1412604436;Vexual;and ive got a thing wot says i can use the notion
860956;1412604495;Vexual;as i se fit disregardless if i remeber anything
860957;1412604747;Vexual;actually i don;t want t be too much of a bother, but i think you'll find that patent is actually mine
860958;1412604759;Vexual;you haven't been using it have oyu?
860959;1412604809;Vexual;yeah i just checked with my lawyer
860960;1412604936;kakobrekla;https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/507842067964256256
860961;1412604938;assbot;Optimism shouldn't be a personal disposition. You want flight attendants to be "optimistic", pilots to be "pessimistic" not the opposite.
860962;1412604943;kakobrekla;same goes for "asshole"
860963;1412604965;kakobrekla;but alright imma help
860964;1412604979;kakobrekla;you exploiter you!
860965;1412605048;Vexual;id love to try to convince a judge im a bigger asshole than popescue
860966;1412605115;mircea_popescu;knowing how to exploit is half the orgams.
860967;1412605116;Vexual;contempting the court wins?
860968;1412605147;kakobrekla;lampelina you should get your securitah up.
860969;1412605151;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Well, you have to hold the court in contempt first. It is a race
860970;1412605177;Vexual;ah yes bb, i don't see things like that though
860971;1412605191;Vexual;i ws an asshole first and all
860972;1412605214;mircea_popescu;push up bra for securitits ?!
860973;1412605225;Vexual;whoawhat?
860974;1412605255;Vexual;now im confused with vampirealla
860975;1412605319;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Vampire-Allah-Akbar?
860976;1412605390;mircea_popescu;if only russ meyer would have directed barbarella...
860977;1412605398;Vexual;https://d1g4sq00ps2bp3.cloudfront.net/comicart/1248.jpg
860978;1412605420;mircea_popescu;imagine, a mostly nude teenaged jane fonda with a bunch of bosomy chicks, doing trippy shit
860979;1412605477;Vexual;do tell
860980;1412605496;mircea_popescu;nothing to tell, you gotta be there.
860981;1412605529;Vexual;but its a failm
860982;1412605544;Vexual;fuck my typos
860983;1412605560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00074255 = 15.2223 BTC [+]
860984;1412605640;Vexual;whattabout sophia lauren in silk road?
860985;1412605723;Vexual;as "the real" dread pirate roberts
860986;1412605741;mats_cd03;http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/04/us/ocean-bubble-rescue/index.html
860987;1412605742;assbot;Man in inflatable bubble rescued off coast of Florida - CNN.com
860988;1412605757;mats_cd03;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFqiuWHN2Mo and of course an accompanying video
860989;1412605757;assbot;Reza Baluchi - Paddle Bubble - YouTube
860990;1412605794;TomServo;Almost 2K BTC left the Ethereum wallet Saturday.
860991;1412605909;Vexual;was the dude in a bubble playing mario bros?
860992;1412605951;BingoBoingo;https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
860993;1412605952;assbot;Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
860994;1412605985;Vexual;wheres your collar?
860995;1412606065;mircea_popescu;http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/whos-afraid-of-the-workers-revolution
860996;1412606066;assbot;Who's Afraid of the Workers' Revolution? : The Freeman : Foundation for Economic Education
860997;1412606072;mircea_popescu;i don't recall, do we like j tucker ?
860998;1412606185;Vexual;why not
860999;1412606211;mircea_popescu;no idea
861000;1412606212;mircea_popescu;!s tucker
861001;1412606213;assbot;27 results for 'tucker' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tucker
861002;1412606382;Vexual;you can sign up to uber thru a nigerian here
861003;1412606424;Vexual;don't ask me how the fuck that works
861004;1412606514;Vexual;im guessing the cat don't sport a bowtie tho
861005;1412606576;Vexual;and so it follow he probably just wants the papers to your late model car or some such
861006;1412606597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 107 @ 0.16442015 = 17.593 BTC [+] {10}
861007;1412606658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.16499999 = 0.66 BTC [+] {2}
861008;1412607150;Vexual;theres is no left and right anymore
861009;1412607201;Vexual;satoshi read hashcash and liked it, kids are reading real things
861010;1412607218;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Did you step on a boat? Look port and starboard.
861011;1412607242;thickasthieves;;;ticker
861012;1412607243;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 333.13, Best ask: 333.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 332.02, 24 hour volume: 95391.41421327, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 335.0, 24 hour vwap: 305.254321266
861013;1412607249;Vexual;well left and right are things, but, im talkin...
861014;1412607266;Vexual;like, its a big vloud and shit
861015;1412607337;thickasthieves;http://dpaste.com/3TB87DT
861016;1412607338;assbot;dpaste: 3TB87DT: Deleted From Reddit - Whale Was Goxcoin Creator, by tat
861017;1412607390;mircea_popescu;lol why'd it beleete it ?
861018;1412607401;rithm;'spiracy
861019;1412607423;thickasthieves;either reddit or researched deleted it shortly after posting
861020;1412607431;thickasthieves;but twas cached in my feed reader
861021;1412607449;thickasthieves;researcher*
861022;1412607508;mircea_popescu;aha
861023;1412607602;thickasthieves;apparently i'm not the only one Circle didnt process purchases for
861024;1412607624;thickasthieves;did 1btc to test, order failed - canceled
861025;1412607720;mircea_popescu;plenty of such reports yes.
861026;1412607742;mircea_popescu;pity all their efforts turned out to be in vain huh.
861027;1412607746;mircea_popescu;must suck.
861028;1412607806;BingoBoingo;So circle's just another pre-order scam?
861029;1412607879;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo not per se, but pretty much all the usg-collaborationist services either stopped or delayed usd to btc purchases yest.
861030;1412607887;mircea_popescu;"it was supposed to go down"
861031;1412607900;thickasthieves;lol i'm trying to use their customer support to find out why,
861032;1412607905;thickasthieves;and also giving some feedback
861033;1412607912;thickasthieves;500 character limit...
861034;1412607918;thickasthieves;i mean cmon
861035;1412607923;mircea_popescu;because reasons, of course.
861036;1412607953;mircea_popescu;lampelina http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/
861037;1412607954;assbot;Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861038;1412607970;thickasthieves;it doesnt even tell me how many characters i have used
861039;1412607972;mircea_popescu;and btw cazalla, put a quantcast code on the thing
861040;1412607986;thickasthieves;no room to complain about that tho!
861041;1412608054;thickasthieves;;;ticker
861042;1412608056;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 342.02, Best ask: 343.21, Bid-ask spread: 1.19000, Last trade: 342.01, 24 hour volume: 97594.75181671, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 344.87, 24 hour vwap: 306.12354108
861043;1412608065;thickasthieves;but but 275?
861044;1412608085;mircea_popescu;greatest country in the world
861045;1412608088;mircea_popescu;or was it richest ?
861046;1412608102;thickasthieves;surely it's richest in some things
861047;1412608118;thickasthieves;organic mass
861048;1412608123;bounce;oh the fertility of bullshit
861049;1412608139;mircea_popescu;lol im sure india is richer in dung
861050;1412608147;bounce;should be great for biodiesel
861051;1412608186;mircea_popescu;biodiesel is such nonsense anyway. what do you need fuel for if there's not a bunch of derps anymore, going from parking lot to parking lot ?
861052;1412608234;mircea_popescu;here's some simple math : if 10 bn people peak oil = year 2064, 100mn people peak oil = year 7014
861053;1412608259;mats_cd03;Vexual: its a song from shrek 2
861054;1412608288;mats_cd03;'holding out for a hero' frou frou
861055;1412608292;thickasthieves;i went for a walk and this little girl was playing on her swing chanting the "Everything Is Awesome!" chorus
861056;1412608308;mats_cd03;das cute
861057;1412608347;thickasthieves;I went to a football game and everyone was chanting "Third Down For What?!"
861058;1412608350;thickasthieves;same day
861059;1412608375;thickasthieves;hankuna matata
861060;1412608379;thickasthieves;hakuna*
861061;1412608382;thickasthieves;or sumth
861062;1412608420;thickasthieves;Jacksonville Jaguars have the largest screens in the world or something
861063;1412608458;thickasthieves;each of the two wraps like 25% of the place
861064;1412608494;thickasthieves;they have two glass pools on the second tier, where fans can drink and watch the game and be watched by people watching the game
861065;1412608503;thickasthieves;on the screens
861066;1412608525;mircea_popescu;pools as in, water filled ?
861067;1412608528;thickasthieves;yes
861068;1412608538;mircea_popescu;so wait, you take the bitches for a swim while the game
861069;1412608541;thickasthieves;yep
861070;1412608544;mircea_popescu;and the plebs watch her tits jiggle ?
861071;1412608548;thickasthieves;yep
861072;1412608548;mircea_popescu;gangam style.
861073;1412608552;thickasthieves;and watch bros bro
861074;1412608593;thickasthieves;then clowns not dressed as clowns firr tshirts from cannons every 20min
861075;1412608598;thickasthieves;fire*
861076;1412608645;thickasthieves;meanwhile i'm trading on my tablet buying at 276
861077;1412608646;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: got a broken link http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/
861078;1412608648;assbot;Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861079;1412608664;mircea_popescu;aw
861080;1412608814;mircea_popescu;missing http does that. fixed ty
861081;1412608887;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/
861082;1412608918;BingoBoingo;reddit lulz https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2igcg1/youre_not_gonna_like_this_but_willy_from_mt_gox/
861083;1412608919;assbot;You're not gonna like this, but Willy from Mt. Gox, was a group of people, with the major player being: Jeff Garzik. : Bitcoin
861084;1412609001;mircea_popescu;what's not to like ?
861085;1412609045;BingoBoingo;Everything is to like, except that which is for to love.
861086;1412609072;thickasthieves;also, so what if he was Willy
861087;1412609177;mircea_popescu;wait. is the thesis that the willy REPORT was authored by mostly garzik
861088;1412609197;mircea_popescu;or that he wrote the php code for the actual bot on karpeles' exchange or what ?
861089;1412609230;thickasthieves;or that he was manning the whole thing
861090;1412609233;mthreat;mircea murdoch!
861091;1412609248;thickasthieves;i'm not sure why i'd care to discern any of those
861092;1412609261;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.5742731 BTC. Current weight: 88,477.
861093;1412609312;mircea_popescu;mthreat im not old enough
861094;1412609342;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00074294 = 22.1396 BTC [+] {2}
861095;1412609351;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves "Go ahead, prove me wrong. I want you to." ? whay are we reading derppit again ?
861096;1412609387;mircea_popescu;"[]PWNY_EVEREADY 1 point 8 minutes ago Ahh what a community! A key bitcoin core developer was scamming/ripping off the community he supposedly believes in. Who needs regulation amirite?" i guess we have the new party line, if nothing else.
861097;1412609460;thickasthieves;well reddit is good for one thing, churning fresh bitcoin text
861098;1412609469;mircea_popescu;they gotta learn to make better astroturf reddit accts, incidentally.
861099;1412609581;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/
861100;1412609643;thickasthieves;nice pricepoint choice
861101;1412609787;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.111 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.211 BTC. Current weight: 99,994.
861102;1412609858;mircea_popescu;!up Newar
861103;1412609891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13979 @ 0.00074367 = 10.3958 BTC [+] {2}
861104;1412610002;kakobrekla;heh thickasthieves http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2014#836412
861105;1412610003;assbot;Logged on 20-09-2014 02:11:34; kakobrekla: if you cant buy it, price is irrelevant
861106;1412610182;thickasthieves;indeed
861107;1412610638;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/bet/716/btc-worth-over-5000-before-2015/#c4108
861108;1412610638;assbot;BitBet - BTC worth over $5000 before 2015 :: 5.56 B (8%) on Yes, 63.92 B (92%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 day| weight: 18`745 (100`000 to 1)
861109;1412610655;kakobrekla;someone really needs to put up a site "derp for btc" to serve as craigslist
861110;1412610867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.1379006 = 8.1361 BTC [-]
861111;1412611172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
861112;1412611264;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/05/has-north-korea-s-kim-jong-un-been-toppled.html
861113;1412611265;assbot;Has North Koreas Kim Jong Un Been Toppled? - The Daily Beast
861114;1412611294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 3.76046076 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 327 satoshi per share
861115;1412611510;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl
861116;1412611765;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats
861117;1412611768;gribble;Current Blocks: 324137 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 438 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35238654726.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.66533
861118;1412611809;BingoBoingo;Oh, by defeating WhaleBearPig we apparently earned another diff increase
861119;1412611841;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that'd be the best nrws evar
861120;1412611880;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Why because if Kim is deposed Obama must be following soon after?
861121;1412612380;danielpbarron;!up brianhoffman
861122;1412612406;danielpbarron;ugh, lost ident; someone wanna get this?
861123;1412612424;danielpbarron;it'll take me a few minutes
861124;1412612468;TomServo;!up brianhoffman
861125;1412612479;brianhoffman;thank you
861126;1412612481;brianhoffman;assbot...
861127;1412612481;danielpbarron;he's the OpenBazaar guy
861128;1412612494;TomServo;Ah, welcome
861129;1412612500;brianhoffman;I’m trying to get @dionyziz in here
861130;1412612507;brianhoffman;he’s spearheading the trust work
861131;1412612516;danielpbarron;;;gettrust brianhoffman
861132;1412612516;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user brianhoffman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=brianhoffman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=brianhoffman | Rated since: never
861133;1412612517;brianhoffman;him and his professor
861134;1412612556;danielpbarron;you'll want to get in the WoT if you want to be taken seriously
861135;1412612573;danielpbarron;which shouldn't be hard to do for a couple of devs
861136;1412612583;brianhoffman;@dionyziz i believe is already
861137;1412612592;brianhoffman;I will work on it
861138;1412612596;danielpbarron;;;gettrust dionyziz
861139;1412612596;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user dionyziz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=dionyziz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dionyziz | Rated since: Wed Jun 8 13:05:32 2011
861140;1412612635;brianhoffman;ok or not
861141;1412612658;brianhoffman;his work has mostly been around pgp wot
861142;1412612663;danielpbarron;he is; just not in my L2
861143;1412612670;brianhoffman;ok
861144;1412612687;danielpbarron;i'll give him a +1 when i get authed again
861145;1412612699;brianhoffman;i just shot him a msg so maybe he’ll jump in
861146;1412612742;danielpbarron;what is this I've heard about a decentralized reputation system?
861147;1412612765;danielpbarron;and can the idea be applied instead to this gribble WoT
861148;1412612799;brianhoffman;well we are exploring this potentially. admittedly it is a much loftier goal than expected at first.
861149;1412612815;brianhoffman;this is all very notional at the moment though.
861150;1412612823;brianhoffman;have you read the paper dionysis put out about this so far?
861151;1412612838;danielpbarron;i figured as much, or else it would already be a think in here
861152;1412612857;TheNewDeal;;;bc,stats
861153;1412612859;gribble;Current Blocks: 324137 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 438 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35238654726.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.66533
861154;1412612860;danielpbarron;thing* // re: the paper, no
861155;1412612874;punkman;danielpbarron: we could have 10 gribbles and you could check that counterparty is authed against X of those
861156;1412612878;brianhoffman;https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/e3b296861175e0ebea4b
861157;1412612879;assbot;web-of-trust.md
861158;1412612910;brianhoffman;sorry for links if you all are against that crap in here but i figured it’s easiest to just link you over
861159;1412612919;TheNewDeal;oh we link
861160;1412612935;danielpbarron;links are fine as long as they aren't videos without tits
861161;1412612949;brianhoffman;:P
861162;1412612975;brianhoffman;ok well so what is your main interest here? just that we are trying to reinvent the wheel?
861163;1412612983;brianhoffman;or that you think we’re idiots in general :P
861164;1412612994;danielpbarron;a little of both
861165;1412613006;punkman;"Global trust is trust towards a particular individual which is seen as the same from all members of the network. Projected trust is established through a pseudonymous partial knowledge web-of-trust, while global trust is established through proof-of-burn and proof-of-timelock mechanisms."
861166;1412613010;danielpbarron;but you joined here, so there might be hope
861167;1412613012;punkman;we don't have timelocks yet
861168;1412613047;brianhoffman;which is why at the moment we’re leveraging proof of burn
861169;1412613057;punkman;well that's silly
861170;1412613058;brianhoffman;we’re following the Peter Todd BIP
861171;1412613059;brianhoffman;and what not
861172;1412613070;brianhoffman;but this is all not slated for the next week’s release here
861173;1412613080;danielpbarron;i like proof of burn -- that's why XCP is still a thing, and mastercoin isn't
861174;1412613095;brianhoffman;proof of burn is fine. at the moment we’re doing it wrong and spamming the UTXO
861175;1412613108;brianhoffman;we will be leveraging op_return in the next release hopefully
861176;1412613120;brianhoffman;at the moment the entire project is under code review
861177;1412613142;brianhoffman;our project has great breadth and we’re certainly not interested in stepping on toes or making grandiose claims about any one area
861178;1412613148;brianhoffman;we would love to collaborate where possible
861179;1412613175;brianhoffman;i know that Dionysis feels the same way so please don’t be turned off by anything we throw out there as we’re not trying to stomp out others who are smarter on this stuff
861180;1412613190;brianhoffman;feel free to destroy anything we publish so we can evolve
861181;1412613203;brianhoffman;that’s why i’ve come to your IRC instead of just insulting @danielbarron more
861182;1412613205;brianhoffman;:)
861183;1412613217;punkman;"In OpenBazaar, the participants are inherently pseudonymous. In this setting, we wish to maintain an identity for each node. This identity is strictly distinct from the operator's real-world identity."
861184;1412613219;danielpbarron;i like gribble the way it is so far, but I think I saw discussion in here some time ago about making it decentralized; that's why I figured you might have something interesting to say
861185;1412613222;punkman;that probably won't work
861186;1412613247;brianhoffman;ok so the folks from freenet argued that as well
861187;1412613268;brianhoffman;i’m interested to hear your justification though
861188;1412613345;pete_dushenski;"The new [French cybersecurity] rules include fines of as much as 750,000 euros for companies that fail government security audits, and demand that French businesses reconsider their technology choices to focus on certified -- mostly ‘‘made in France” -- products."
861189;1412613363;thickasthieves;to prevent central party from acting evil or from being acted evil upon
861190;1412613392;punkman;brianhoffman: some things to consider here perhaps http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ http://trilema.com/2013/anonimity-not-for-the-poor/
861191;1412613394;assbot;Anonimity, or the urban versus rural dispute. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861192;1412613395;assbot;Anonimity : not for the poor. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861193;1412613429;brianhoffman;ok i will read.
861194;1412613539;thestringpuller;wtf is even going on
861195;1412613542;thestringpuller;i'm gone for 2 days
861196;1412613573;brianhoffman;hey i hate to run but i have to. I heard from @dionyziz and he said he will be able to drop in a little later. I will DM you on Twitter @danielpbarron when he’s available and then just drop in say hey to continue the talk if you don’t mind.
861197;1412613578;brianhoffman;i don’t think this is a short convo anyways
861198;1412613597;brianhoffman;he’s on a “jog"
861199;1412613603;punkman;brianhoffman: the gist is: just use GPG identities and let silk road be silk road
861200;1412613624;brianhoffman;now that’s no fun, just giving up the ghost :P
861201;1412613628;brianhoffman;i hear you and i’ll be back
861202;1412613841;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
861203;1412613843;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.04, Best ask: 341.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 341.89, 24 hour volume: 87215.20972272, 24 hour low: 281.2, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 309.778317883
861204;1412613844;danielpbarron;;;rate dionyziz 1 OpenBazaar, http://twitter.com/dionyziz
861205;1412613846;assbot;Dionysis Zindros (@dionyziz) | Twitter
861206;1412613846;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dionyziz has been recorded.
861207;1412613874;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: how many profit centers does MPIF have left?
861208;1412613895;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller like 3
861209;1412613899;mircea_popescu;!up oda_krell
861210;1412613919;*;mircea_popescu tries to remember what this openbazaar thing is
861211;1412613920;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 52(Y):48(N) by coin, 52(Y):48(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.211 BTC. Current weight: 99,876.
861212;1412613939;thestringpuller;man i have too much to catch up on
861213;1412613948;thestringpuller;all these statements on trilema and new articles
861214;1412613950;thestringpuller;i was gone 1 day
861215;1412613961;mircea_popescu;trilema waits for no one
861216;1412614005;thickasthieves;openbazaar is darkmarketwotcoin
861217;1412614013;thickasthieves;or such
861218;1412614043;bounce;but it's open!
861219;1412614046;mircea_popescu;"OpenBazaar is an open source project to create a decentralized network for commerce onlineusing Bitcointhat has no fees and cannot be censored."
861220;1412614056;mircea_popescu;so basically what, ebay but sovereign ?
861221;1412614088;mircea_popescu;"He forks therefore he leads" lol. what do you do bri o wow he left huh
861222;1412614103;dignork;well, there would be fees for escrow services
861223;1412614146;oda_krell;I suppose the 10min temp voice is one's chance to really shine in here, huh? Song and dance routine maybe? Anyway, don't have anything to really say right now, but I like to lurk from time to time.
861224;1412614165;ben_vulpes;oda_krell: it's 30 minutes
861225;1412614229;mircea_popescu;oda_krell half hour, but basically yes.
861226;1412614271;thestringpuller;;;calc 399811.74163205 * 0.00000170
861227;1412614272;gribble;0.679679960774
861228;1412614363;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman: well we are exploring this potentially. admittedly it is a much loftier goal than expected at first. << myeah.
861229;1412614364;mircea_popescu;!up nomos__
861230;1412614439;mircea_popescu;punkman: danielpbarron: we could have 10 gribbles and you could check that counterparty is authed against X of those << i recall discussions about wot bridges in here too. none of it is insurmontable, except, making a p2p wot.
861231;1412614449;mircea_popescu;which is why the multicentral approach seems to me better.
861232;1412614499;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: links are fine as long as they aren't videos without tits << hm, thinking about it, that's exacly the rule, isn't it ? observant daniel.
861233;1412614523;thestringpuller;;;calc 399811.74163205 * 0.00000190
861234;1412614523;gribble;0.759642309101
861235;1412614554;mircea_popescu;punkman :we don't have timelocks yet << timecocks would be pretty cool too.
861236;1412614631;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman: i know that Dionysis feels the same way so please dont be turned off by anything we throw out there as were not trying to stomp out others who are smarter on this stuff <<< well the s/use/leverage/g thing you got going is a bit weird.
861237;1412614697;ben_vulpes;http://i.imgur.com/iVHfwLc.gif
861238;1412614707;thestringpuller;i think there is a way to sucesfully use nlocktime without having to worry about doublespend
861239;1412614709;mircea_popescu;anyway, the major stiucking point here being, so you have your openbazaar, and anonderp is selling a box of secret documents or w/e.
861240;1412614718;mircea_popescu;how is he supposed to deliver this without getting caught ?
861241;1412614730;pete_dushenski;xanthyos: so much for my $360 (10 double chai) prediction << ha!
861242;1412614772;bounce;cut all the papers in two, send one box by ups and the other by fedex
861243;1412614790;mircea_popescu;lmao
861244;1412614803;mircea_popescu;what if they're live baby rats for a certain brunette chick?
861245;1412614811;pete_dushenski;xanthyos: russell brand's going to have to stroke some furry walls hard enough to tear the shag out if he keeps attaching his name to max keiser's cryptocoin << on fire, this guy.
861246;1412614827;mircea_popescu;yeah im bevcoming a xanth fan too
861247;1412614829;mircea_popescu;!up xanthyos
861248;1412614841;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot xanthyos
861249;1412614842;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xanthyos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xanthyos | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014
861250;1412614842;thestringpuller;we should just refer to maxcoin as jefferycoin for now on.
861251;1412614937;mircea_popescu;http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deicide-s-benton-i-hate-hoffman-brothers-more-than-anything-in-this-world/ one of the better interviews
861252;1412614937;assbot;Deicide's Benton: 'I Hate Hoffman Brothers More Than Anything In This World' - Blabbermouth.net
861253;1412614943;mircea_popescu;Decibel: Has it been weird writing songs without the Hoffman brothers [Eric and Brian, former DEICIDE guitarists]?
861254;1412614943;mircea_popescu;Benton: "It's been the fucking greatest thing in the world. Those two are a couple of idiots, man. I hate Eric and Brian Hoffman more than anything in this world, and I will not rest until I put shit straight with the fans. Up 'til now, everybody thinks I kicked them out of the band, but nobody kicked anybody out. They quit on their own, and I wanna set the record straight in regard to those two fuckin' pricks."
861255;1412614985;pete_dushenski;thestringpuller: yup.
861256;1412615179;mircea_popescu;Benton: "Yeah, they're real nice guys. We're in the process of suing them right now for slander and everything else, dude. They're going around telling people I'm addicted to methamphetamine. You know what? Who hasn't experimented with a few things in their life? Big deal. So what if I experimented? They did, too! But, look, I don't even drink anymore, man. I mean, I'll have a Heineken every once in a while, but I
861257;1412615180;mircea_popescu;was drinking a bottle of Jack Daniel's every night before I went onstage and another bottle while I was playing. That starts catching up with you real quick, and I started going blind in my right eye. So after a nice scare at the doctor's office about four years ago, I stopped."
861258;1412615186;mircea_popescu;total comedy gold these people
861259;1412615579;bounce;that about this guy?
861260;1412615717;mircea_popescu;hm ?
861261;1412615772;bounce;that refers to the same guy as the brianhoffman popped by here earlier?
861262;1412615807;mircea_popescu;a no. just name coincidence.
861263;1412615810;thickasthieves;would it be absurd for me to suggest that bitcoin volatility has a base shape, which appears as fractals and distorts according to current trend? sorta like an elliot wave or bubble pattern? something like the shape of the algorithm as averaged by combinining all trade bots and human behavior?
861264;1412615823;mircea_popescu;there's a coupla death metal bass players, brothers, by that name
861265;1412616119;pete_dushenski;Vexual: this ones a newspaper, blogs are for little girls << orly?
861266;1412616311;thestringpuller;http://quartersnacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/subway-ollie.jpg
861267;1412616468;bounce;what a cute photo. until you realise how it was probably taken.
861268;1412616469;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1
861269;1412616478;indiancandy1;thans
861270;1412616480;indiancandy1;thanks
861271;1412616482;indiancandy1;long time
861272;1412616485;indiancandy1;how are you mp
861273;1412616492;mircea_popescu;great as ever. yourself ?
861274;1412616501;indiancandy1;im good dear
861275;1412616507;indiancandy1;u still in argentina
861276;1412616511;mircea_popescu;yep
861277;1412616520;indiancandy1;awsom
861278;1412616522;indiancandy1;im in india
861279;1412616538;mircea_popescu;getting married ?
861280;1412616574;indiancandy1;no dear
861281;1412616577;indiancandy1;goin on a city tour
861282;1412616580;mircea_popescu;btw, dun call people dear in english. it's this 70 year old grandma thing to do, and for some reason all indian camgirls do it.
861283;1412616583;fluffypony;finding your inner sacred cow?
861284;1412616591;indiancandy1;ahaha
861285;1412616593;mircea_popescu;(reason being that they proly learned english from 70yo little old ladies)
861286;1412616594;indiancandy1;racist
861287;1412616595;indiancandy1;:O
861288;1412616612;indiancandy1;ahaha
861289;1412616615;indiancandy1;all indian cam girls
861290;1412616618;mircea_popescu;which city is india ?
861291;1412616621;indiancandy1;stereotype
861292;1412616623;indiancandy1;jeez
861293;1412616628;indiancandy1;im in lucknow
861294;1412616634;indiancandy1;at the moment in up
861295;1412616638;mircea_popescu;hm. never been there.
861296;1412616639;indiancandy1;i signed a new fil
861297;1412616641;indiancandy1;film
861298;1412616645;indiancandy1;so im promotin it
861299;1412616649;mircea_popescu;o hey. what's your role ?
861300;1412616654;indiancandy1;called i luv dubai
861301;1412616664;mircea_popescu;link it ?
861302;1412616667;indiancandy1;ok
861303;1412616669;indiancandy1;1sec
861304;1412616709;indiancandy1;youtube
861305;1412616711;indiancandy1;isnt working
861306;1412616714;indiancandy1;i duno why
861307;1412616719;bounce;senile tremor on the enter key?
861308;1412616721;indiancandy1;youtube shanti dynamite i luv dubai
861309;1412616754;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fzFaX5k9H0 ?
861310;1412616754;assbot;Ajaz, Shanti Dynamite in 'I Luv Dubai' - YouTube
861311;1412616770;indiancandy1;ya me and ajaz
861312;1412616788;indiancandy1;youtube isnt working for me i duno why
861313;1412616793;mircea_popescu;tsk, pushing up your tits and being all bashful about your hip tattoo ?
861314;1412616835;mircea_popescu;lol and fakekissing the guy ? ok, this was entertaining
861315;1412616867;indiancandy1;no not really camera only ffocused on negative things
861316;1412616871;indiancandy1;sadly
861317;1412616892;mircea_popescu;yeah looks like they want to set you up for a heel role.
861318;1412616903;indiancandy1;the camera was only zooming
861319;1412616904;indiancandy1;on my boobs
861320;1412616944;mircea_popescu;so what's your pr lady next move for you ? major drug scandal ?
861321;1412617016;indiancandy1;pr man
861322;1412617022;indiancandy1;my pr is a man
861323;1412617027;indiancandy1;give me good ideas
861324;1412617028;thickasthieves;sex tape
861325;1412617029;thickasthieves;oh wait
861326;1412617042;mircea_popescu;nah sex tape wrong move for her.
861327;1412617045;indiancandy1;im goin 2 shower il b bACK
861328;1412617080;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 it's simple, have some people friendly in the press over at your hotel, have a policeman come and arrest you and confiscate a huge bundle of flour.
861329;1412617097;mircea_popescu;then you declare you're innocent, a week later they let you go because it was a mistake and there you go, two extra points. maybe three.
861330;1412617150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2180 @ 0.00058096 = 1.2665 BTC [+] {4}
861331;1412617579;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2014#860305 < several problems with that, id fix if there would be a good solution. problem 1: !down would depend on gribbles presence, now it does not since down does not check wot but if a person self upped or not. problem 2: afaik even wot api is cached
861332;1412617581;assbot;Logged on 06-10-2014 03:17:27; ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: can we do something about this rating lag?
861333;1412617654;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla nah dun worry about it. not really a problem.
861334;1412617658;kakobrekla;so even if you unrate/negrate you can not down that person, not cause of cache but cause they self upped
861335;1412617671;kakobrekla;well, someone could run a bnc, self up and yapp for weeks
861336;1412617689;mircea_popescu;bnc can also have problems.
861337;1412617700;kakobrekla;just sayin
861338;1412617711;mircea_popescu;yeah. dun worry about it, worry bout something else :)
861339;1412617900;thickasthieves;http://www.coindesk.com/investor-tim-draper-leads-snapcards-1-5-million-seed-round/
861340;1412617900;assbot;Investor Tim Draper Leads SnapCard's $1.5 Million Seed Round
861341;1412618000;mircea_popescu;"HOW SNAPCARD WORKS. Download snapCard."
861342;1412618002;mircea_popescu;orly ? lol.
861343;1412618414;pete_dushenski;"Everything published was very logical. But, consider this, what if you were to create a awesome title? I ain't suggesting your content is not good., however suppose you added something that makes people want more? I mean IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski is a little plain. You could glance at Yahoo's front page and see how they create news titles to grab viewers to open the links. You might add a
861344;1412618415;pete_dushenski;video or a pic or two to get people excited about what you've written. In my opinion, it would make your website a little bit more interesting." << lol these sp4mmers
861345;1412618441;pete_dushenski;so good i'm tempted to approve the comment
861346;1412618509;thickasthieves;approve a picture of the comment, kill two birds
861347;1412618533;mircea_popescu;lol
861348;1412618585;pete_dushenski;haha don't give me ideas
861349;1412618623;pete_dushenski;mebbe ima take a video of a nekkid chick takin a picture of it then approve that
861350;1412618640;mircea_popescu;$proxies
861351;1412618641;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.biz mpex.co mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
861352;1412618643;empyex;mircea_popescu: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (163 milliseconds), mpex.co (195 milliseconds), mpex.biz (433 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (528 milliseconds), mpex.bz (752 milliseconds)
861353;1412618644;empyex;mircea_popescu: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
861354;1412618646;mircea_popescu;aha
861355;1412618652;mircea_popescu;!up Terra123
861356;1412618702;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/KonradSGraf/status/518879632473726976 << just to bug ben_vulpes
861357;1412618703;assbot;The 5th of October in bitcoin price history10: $0.0611: $4.90 +82x12: $12.75 +2.6x13: $121.49 +9.5x14: $304.16 +2.5x
861358;1412618763;mircea_popescu;sooo apparently a mpex proxy (mpex.co) got dns hijacked ?
861359;1412618829;pete_dushenski;iiiiinteresting
861360;1412618859;kakobrekla;it did?
861361;1412618874;thickasthieves;so next is 10x?
861362;1412618877;thickasthieves;makes sense
861363;1412618889;thickasthieves;3000
861364;1412618905;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: i don't recall, do we like j tucker ? << o mr. sleepyhead? there's definitely worse muppets out on the "conference" scene.
861365;1412618920;thickasthieves;is that the bowtie guy
861366;1412618935;mircea_popescu;hmmm no, it did not.
861367;1412618942;mircea_popescu;i dunno wtf this was.
861368;1412618979;thickasthieves;there's this interview with him and hearn where he's just gushing
861369;1412618992;thickasthieves;or maybe he's always that way
861370;1412618995;mircea_popescu;well that's no crime yet.
861371;1412619027;thickasthieves;i thought all things distinctive were crimes?!
861372;1412619092;pete_dushenski;thickasthieves: yup, definitely bowtie guy
861373;1412619106;pete_dushenski;personal friend of bitstein's too afaik
861374;1412619113;thickasthieves;word
861375;1412619128;pete_dushenski;he's a pretty gushy dude it seems
861376;1412619133;thickasthieves;ah
861377;1412619201;pete_dushenski;and he was even "distinctive" enough to pass out cold at a conference dinner while being referenced by the speaker on stage. see: http://contravex.com/2014/04/16/ex-post-toronto-bitcoin-expo/
861378;1412619202;assbot;Ex-Post: Toronto Bitcoin Expo | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
861379;1412619268;mircea_popescu;!up brianhoffman
861380;1412619270;mircea_popescu;!up dionyziz
861381;1412619277;brianhoffman;thank you
861382;1412619286;mircea_popescu;sure.
861383;1412619319;brianhoffman;ok I’ve got @dionyziz here and I think he may have some questions for you all
861384;1412619338;mircea_popescu;didja see thge logs ?
861385;1412619344;mircea_popescu;cuz i was talking @you after you apparently left.
861386;1412619351;dionyziz;Ha, I can speak! :)
861387;1412619355;dionyziz;Hello.
861388;1412619367;brianhoffman;no I did not. is it online anywhere?
861389;1412619423;brianhoffman;ok i think i found it
861390;1412619445;brianhoffman;reading now
861391;1412619451;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2014#861219
861392;1412619452;assbot;Logged on 06-10-2014 16:47:26; mircea_popescu: "OpenBazaar is an open source project to create a decentralized network for commerce onlineusing Bitcointhat has no fees and cannot be censored."
861393;1412619452;mircea_popescu;right
861394;1412619564;brianhoffman;mircea_popescu: you are asking about shipping of items across OpenBazaar?
861395;1412619571;brianhoffman;and also I am not the guitarist for Deicide lol
861396;1412619590;dionyziz;I heard you guys have some thoughts on our web-of-trust ideas.
861397;1412619591;brianhoffman;I can play guitar but I’m not in a heavy metal by any means lol
861398;1412619600;dionyziz;I'm very interested in hearing them, especially if you disagree with our proposals.
861399;1412619620;brianhoffman;mircea_popescu did you see dionyziz’ paper that we have up online? i posted the link earlier
861400;1412619621;dionyziz;If you think what we're trying to do is impossible or impractical, this is very important to us and we want to know why.
861401;1412619641;mircea_popescu;dionyziz well not so much on your ideas whatever they may be, but moreover, how familiar are you with the wot as it works and is implemented currently ?
861402;1412619643;brianhoffman;I’m working through your devil goat entry
861403;1412619657;mircea_popescu;devil goat ? which is that one ?
861404;1412619671;brianhoffman;urban vs. rural
861405;1412619678;mircea_popescu;oh hehe. myeah.
861406;1412619679;mircea_popescu; mircea_popescu: you are asking about shipping of items across OpenBazaar? << yes.
861407;1412619687;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/asic-miner-price/
861408;1412619709;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: Are you talking about the bitcoin-otc wot, the gpg wot, the freenet wot, which one exatly?
861409;1412619714;brianhoffman;the issue of shipping ties in nicely with the discussion about arbitration and third-parties in trade transactions
861410;1412619744;mircea_popescu;dionyziz the first.
861411;1412619779;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dionyziz&sign=ANY&type=RECV
861412;1412619780;assbot;Rating Details for User 'dionyziz'
861413;1412619796;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: Yes, I have sent and received some ratings and used this system to exachange bitcoin.
861414;1412619830;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman let me restate it. since shipping precludes practical anonimity, it makes sense to bundle the trust required to maintain pseudonymous identities with the trust required to police transactions, resulting in the following cutting of your mayo : centralized trade with decentralized comm network. which reduces your idea to reimplementing gpg over email.
861415;1412619851;mircea_popescu;dionyziz that is rather basic, but anyway, much better than nothing at all.
861416;1412619855;mircea_popescu;so, how do you aim to improve on this ?
861417;1412619885;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: Yes, my rating is basic on bitcoin-otc, but I feel I have an understanding of your work.
861418;1412619908;dionyziz;Regarding your comments on shipping, this is a different issue which we also have concerns about.
861419;1412619925;mircea_popescu;well that was @ brianhoffman. you, i asked how you aim to improve the wot as it is
861420;1412619928;dionyziz;As for your question regarding improvements over your bitcoin-otc wot work, I'd like to first say that we appreciate the work you've done.
861421;1412619944;mircea_popescu;you know i've done nothing much re bitcoin otc. it's mostly nanotube's thing.
861422;1412619945;dionyziz;And it's an important asset for the bitcoin community.
861423;1412619955;dionyziz;Yes, I mean "you" in plural.
861424;1412619962;dionyziz;You as in, people in this channel who have worked on this.
861425;1412619964;mircea_popescu;but anyway! thanks, and dun worry about it, you're not being griled in the sense of having been a bad boy
861426;1412619968;mircea_popescu;im just trying to grok .
861427;1412619977;dionyziz;So, regarding improvements.
861428;1412620008;dionyziz;Some of these ideas are detailed in my paper, but keep in mind that my paper is incomplete and just lays out some of our thoughts. We are improving on it and thinking about additional things.
861429;1412620016;brianhoffman;I think I see what you’re saying in regards to reimplementing gpg. This is a valid point.
861430;1412620025;dionyziz;The first issue we have with bitcoin-otc is its Achilles' heel.
861431;1412620043;mircea_popescu;dionyziz i am keeping it in mind, which is why i asked diretly :)
861432;1412620044;dionyziz;We feel its centralization is harmful.
861433;1412620069;dionyziz;In OpenBazaar, our threat model requires no centralization, so we want users to be able to validate trust directly.
861434;1412620115;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman no, it's not. looky here, let's model it. there are 3 items of interest. 1. the shipping of purchased items ; 2. the discussion of trade, ie, merchant and buyer meeting hteir minds ; 3. the payment for purchases. now, these 3 can be sorted in any which way. otc for instance sorts it that 2 is gpg over email or an irc channel, 1 is mail and 3 is the wot.
861435;1412620115;punkman;that's when I ask you to GPG sign something
861436;1412620118;dionyziz;This is the main reason we think bitcoin-otc wot is inadequate.
861437;1412620141;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman your proposition is to somehow weld them together, but because you can not practically remove the problem of 1, it'll still revert to something similar, inevitably.
861438;1412620162;mircea_popescu;dionyziz are you familiar with the discussion of multicentrality vs decentralisation ?
861439;1412620243;brianhoffman;are you implying that the anonymity is simply thrown out the window once you begin shipping purchased items? i’m feeling dense here.
861440;1412620251;mircea_popescu;quite that, yes.
861441;1412620276;brianhoffman;well i guess my response at least initially would be are we really trying to solve that issue here...
861442;1412620283;brianhoffman;i don’t think that is really in scope for OpenBazaar
861443;1412620288;brianhoffman;i see it as an issue
861444;1412620307;brianhoffman;but i don’t believe we’re proposing a solution here at the moment for that challenge
861445;1412620324;mircea_popescu;i gather. but the thing is, that challenge will unravel whatever model you may build.
861446;1412620333;mircea_popescu;it's why silkroad collapsed, after all. you can't ship.
861447;1412620350;mircea_popescu;and since you can't really tell people what to do, you will end up in that conflict whether you want to or not.
861448;1412620368;brianhoffman;you do realize that a large percentage of items shipped are most likely illicit. this does not stop it from occurring.
861449;1412620382;brianhoffman;and those engaging in privacy conscious behavior will know to protect as best they can out of band from OpenBazaar
861450;1412620388;mircea_popescu;i think you maybe misunderstand how safety is effectually implemented.
861451;1412620397;brianhoffman;ok enlighten me
861452;1412620420;mircea_popescu;well, for as long as you're small nobody cares that you're moving contraband back and forth, because it's not meaningfully discernible from the general noise of the system
861453;1412620428;mircea_popescu;once you become large you ipso facto have a footprint
861454;1412620438;mircea_popescu;at which point you either go to jail or backstab your users
861455;1412620440;mircea_popescu;in practice, both.
861456;1412620514;brianhoffman;well i think that mirrors real life rather well. as your “image” becomes larger your activity becomes less indistinguishable from others.
861457;1412620516;brianhoffman;you stick out
861458;1412620517;dionyziz;I do not see why this is a necessity.
861459;1412620518;brianhoffman;i agree
861460;1412620538;brianhoffman;my argument is that this is a meatspace issue
861461;1412620551;mircea_popescu;dionyziz b ecause you're leaking information through the shipping. think of it in crypto terms, you're using a 8 bit key on an amiga as part of the process.
861462;1412620574;bounce;not all trades involve items shipped, and where they do the users of any system, decentralised or not, basically have to provide their own safety. cut-outs and that sort of thing. it does put a bit of a damper as to what is reasonable to advertise.
861463;1412620582;mircea_popescu;brianhoffman well sure, but it doesn't so much matter if it's a meatspace issue or not. what matters is that it's the controlling issue
861464;1412620584;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: Some items are shipped digitally.
861465;1412620593;mircea_popescu;and in being controlling, it'll control. which means it'll shape the marketplace.
861466;1412620598;dionyziz;But solving the shipping problem is currently out of the scope of OpenBazaar.
861467;1412620601;dionyziz;We're not trying to solve this problem.
861468;1412620602;mircea_popescu;dionyziz for that much your idea would work fine
861469;1412620605;dionyziz;We're not trying to solve every problem.
861470;1412620607;mircea_popescu;except information wants to be free and all that.
861471;1412620622;dionyziz;There are ideas to make shipping more untrackable.
861472;1412620625;brianhoffman;well i’d like to say we’re working on a decentralized drone delivery network as part of this
861473;1412620627;dionyziz;Rented PO boxes.
861474;1412620628;brianhoffman;but our scope is already huge
861475;1412620628;dionyziz;Drones.
861476;1412620630;dionyziz;etc. etc.
861477;1412620632;mircea_popescu;but yes, for that thin sliver where carders and snowden wanna pass along secrets, there's something.
861478;1412620640;dionyziz;And I'm interested in these ideas, but OpenBazaar is not trying to find solutions there.
861479;1412620642;mircea_popescu;dionyziz how old are you ?
861480;1412620648;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: I'm 27.
861481;1412620651;dionyziz;You?
861482;1412620657;thestringpuller;drones are not going to work in the US
861483;1412620664;thestringpuller;they WILL find you
861484;1412620666;dionyziz;thestringpuller: I live in the EU :)
861485;1412620667;mircea_popescu;okay. im 35. but anyway : no, rented po boxes and drones aren't solutions.
861486;1412620668;thestringpuller;and they will fine you
861487;1412620700;dionyziz;Sure, ok.
861488;1412620703;brianhoffman;hey all i have to run. very busy day but i am enjoying the convo. i will be back.
861489;1412620708;dionyziz;As I said, in OpenBazaar we don't try to solve the problem of shipping.
861490;1412620720;dionyziz;In the same way that cryptography isn't trying to solve all the problems of security,
861491;1412620730;mircea_popescu;ok, so what problem does it try to solve ?
861492;1412620731;dionyziz;in OpenBazaar we want to maintain anonymity at the point of trade.
861493;1412620747;mircea_popescu;you mean anonimity or pseudonimity ?
861494;1412620752;dionyziz;We want to allow people to agree on a trade and exchange the money and sign the contract in a pseudonymous manner.
861495;1412620755;dionyziz;The delivery is their own problem.
861496;1412620767;mircea_popescu;these two are not the same in any sense, stop using them as synonyms.
861497;1412620772;dionyziz;"Anonymity" and "pseudonymity" are defined precisely on my writing.
861498;1412620778;mircea_popescu;anyway : this already exists, it's a solved problem. why are you resolving a solved problem ?
861499;1412620790;dionyziz;I don't think it's a solved problem.
861500;1412620795;dionyziz;Can you explain why you think it's a solved problem?
861501;1412620805;mircea_popescu;yes. because for instance, lemme find it
861502;1412620810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34536 @ 0.00074314 = 25.6651 BTC [-] {2}
861503;1412620982;dionyziz;OK
861504;1412621001;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/asicminer-agreementtxt.asc << there you go.
861505;1412621026;mircea_popescu;pseudonymous parties agreeing on a trade, exchanging money and signing the contract.
861506;1412621029;mircea_popescu;in... 2012.
861507;1412621083;mircea_popescu;(and here's a riot, 1.2k asicminer full shares ? aka 6k btc at the peak ? history!)
861508;1412621138;dignork;!up dionyziz
861509;1412621185;thickasthieves;shit remember that lot jutarul sold on the forum at 5btc?
861510;1412621194;thickasthieves;was it 2000?
861511;1412621200;thickasthieves;good ole days
861512;1412621205;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: OK, I will read this.
861513;1412621209;dionyziz;Thank you for sharing this with me :)
861514;1412621215;dionyziz;And thank you for taking the time to address these issues with us.
861515;1412621239;mircea_popescu;dionyziz don't take things the wrong way, there's plenty of work to do for people wanting to be useful. it's just important not to waste the enthusiasm of youth on dead ends.
861516;1412621250;mircea_popescu;this chan's always here for that very reason
861517;1412621251;dionyziz;Ah, I see what this is.
861518;1412621301;dignork;dionyziz: Another potential problem: decentralized arbitration will act as random oracle. If arbiters will keep bias towards buyer, sellers will increase prices to compensate. Bias towards sellers will make buyers to seek discount >= bias rate. Assuming sellers will have to maintain their ratings, risk will mainly be on the seller side, this risk will be priced in. Do you have any estimates on the
861519;1412621303;dignork;risk adjustment percentage?
861520;1412621336;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: Maybe it is similar to this agreement that I did with a friend a few months ago? https://dionyziz.com/hedge.txt
861521;1412621345;mircea_popescu;dignork you can't have bias in a decentralized market. you will instead have volatility. bias happens in central markets like ebay deciding to side with buyer
861522;1412621347;dionyziz;I'm familiar with the concept of GPG-signing a personal contract.
861523;1412621367;mircea_popescu;dionyziz it's not personal in any sense. signatures are pseudonyms for this purpose
861524;1412621409;dionyziz;mircea_popescu: The problem I am trying to solve in OpenBazaar is in particular how two pseudonymous agents can trust each other without knowing each other.
861525;1412621428;mircea_popescu;but anyway, conceptually similar to your thing, sure. people agreeing on a trade and exchanging the money and signing the contract in a pseudonymous manner.
861526;1412621443;thickasthieves;and can host illegal software without being caught
861527;1412621445;mircea_popescu;which is a matter of the wot. lettuce find the relevant article.
861528;1412621457;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
861529;1412621458;assbot;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861530;1412621460;mircea_popescu;dionyziz ^
861531;1412621474;mircea_popescu;and with this i'll have to take a meeting, but will be back in an hour or so. cheers.
861532;1412621501;dionyziz;Thanks for the link, I will read it.
861533;1412621504;dionyziz;Let's talk again soon :)
861534;1412621506;dionyziz;Nice meeting you.
861535;1412621511;dionyziz;Bye for now.
861536;1412621664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00074439 = 34.8375 BTC [+] {2}
861537;1412621679;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/AngeloBTC/status/519170753036427264 << lol @ seamonster
861538;1412621681;assbot;/hashtag/BearWhaled?src=hash http://t.co/BknJyNIy5S
861539;1412621723;pete_dushenski;i guess he's andreas 3.0 (2.0 was twobittard)
861540;1412622016;dignork;mircea_popescu: bias was mentioned as part of explanation on why arbiters will act as random oracles, thus making risk split 50/50 on buyer and seller.
861541;1412623172;Naphex;So.. did you guys check out http://coinspark.org/ yet ?
861542;1412623173;assbot;CoinSpark | Lightweight Scalable Solution for Colored Coins
861543;1412623794;ben_vulpes;kakobrekla, mircea_popescu: afaik even wot api is cached
861544;1412623798;*;ben_vulpes chuckles
861545;1412623803;ben_vulpes;yeah, that'd stop realtime anything
861546;1412623822;kakobrekla;even realtime chuckles
861547;1412623849;ben_vulpes;i'm an asynchronous chuckler
861548;1412623865;ben_vulpes;;;later tell pete_dushenski that's moderately interesting. do you think the pink whale's responsible?
861549;1412623866;gribble;The operation succeeded.
861550;1412624960;thestringpuller;where is wot api?
861551;1412624965;thestringpuller;ben_vulpes hook me up
861552;1412625014;*;ben_vulpes chuck
861553;1412625022;*;ben_vulpes les
861554;1412625522;thestringpuller;seriously just gonna leave me hangin?
861555;1412625528;xanthyos;wow btc is in the black!
861556;1412625539;xanthyos;5.4% up last 24h
861557;1412625561;xanthyos;this is it, guys. next stop 10k
861558;1412626475;ben_vulpes;lol u
861559;1412626477;ben_vulpes;;;ticker
861560;1412626478;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 329.7, Best ask: 331.11, Bid-ask spread: 1.41000, Last trade: 331.11, 24 hour volume: 77530.12186140, 24 hour low: 295.89, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 314.494778796
861561;1412626602;thestringpuller;xanthyos: 5.4% up last 24h that's a pretty good ROI
861562;1412626636;dignork;Naphex: coinspark << another OP_RETURN riding model, similar to counterparty. Cool part - SPV, but it actually relies on asset tracking servers: http://coinspark.org/create-asset/asset-tracking-server/
861563;1412626637;assbot;Optional: Run your own asset tracking server | CoinSpark
861564;1412627227;thickasthieves;http://www.complex.com/music/2014/10/battle-rapper-daylyt-attempted-to-poop-on-stage-after-getting-booed-at-a-show-this-weekend
861565;1412627227;assbot;Battle Rapper Daylyt Attempted to Poop On Stage After Getting Booed At a Show This Weekend | Complex
861566;1412627229;thickasthieves;poop!
861567;1412627776;TomServo;You're failing pretty hard when you fail at shitting.
861568;1412627841;Naphex;dignork: yeah, the only thing that i mind is that you can't have asset tracking servers track everything
861569;1412627847;Naphex;and have to specify some reference ID
861570;1412627859;Naphex;i mind yet*, still checking it out
861571;1412627947;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00074476 = 13.0333 BTC [+] {2}
861572;1412627958;Naphex;atleast their issued code, apperantly whats running on their free servers tracks everything
861573;1412628008;TomServo;Holy shit this 'seamonster' "crash analysis podcast" is a train wreck.
861574;1412628331;dignork;Naphex: still, as far as I can see they fail to provide any usefull functionality besides what already done in counterparty. Impossibility to spend/destroy assets by dumb wallet is a nice touch, but that's it.
861575;1412628618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00074487 = 28.1561 BTC [+] {3}
861576;1412628736;punkman;from coinspark server thing, sounds safe "PHP compiled with the --enable-shmop option, since the PHP script communicates with the compiled C process via shared memory."
861577;1412628749;punkman;also "At least 8 GB of RAM."
861578;1412628776;Naphex;punkman: the deamon which parsesd bitcoind data dir, uses shmop as IPC
861579;1412628789;Naphex;and there is just this php tat would IPC with it using shmop lol
861580;1412628833;punkman;so what is it, colored coins?
861581;1412628845;Naphex;colored coins with some asset servers
861582;1412628984;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7083 @ 0.00074512 = 5.2777 BTC [+]
861583;1412629254;sgornick;Hey cazalla and/or BingoBoing, ... check PM for message re: @Qntra twitter - http://Twitter.com/Qntra
861584;1412629256;assbot;Qntra (@qntra) | Twitter
861585;1412629342;mircea_popescu;dignork yeah in that you have a point
861586;1412629381;mircea_popescu;still the major problem will be that while on average say it's an ideal market, 0% bias, that average has a poisson distribution of maybe 15% each way, so any individual buyer could see a price fuzziness as close to 30% as his luck gets.
861587;1412629398;mircea_popescu;ie, want to sell for 20, sell anywhere between 17 and 23.
861588;1412629562;mircea_popescu; yeah, that'd stop realtime anything <<< realtime and trust don't mix. the fundamental is this old thing from coinpal : http://trilema.com/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/
861589;1412629563;assbot;Adnotated words of wisdom on the topic of online fraud pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861590;1412629586;mircea_popescu;;;messages cazalla
861591;1412629586;gribble;Error: "messages" is not a valid command.
861592;1412629592;mircea_popescu;;;notice cazalla
861593;1412629592;gribble;Error: You don't have the reply.notice capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
861594;1412629599;mircea_popescu;lol wtf was it
861595;1412629615;mike_c;;;notes cazalla
861596;1412629615;gribble;Sent 7 minutes ago: Re: Qntra.net, I registered @Qntra on Twitter before some griefer /squatter did. Then put a Twitterfeed to push tweets from the RSS feed. When you want the twitter acct, let me know what e-mail to assign it to. It can't be an e-mail already used for any other twitter account.
861597;1412629677;mircea_popescu;TomServo> Holy shit this 'seamonster' "crash analysis podcast" is a train wreck. << but that's what you were there for right ?
861598;1412629717;mircea_popescu; also "At least 8 GB of RAM." << that sounds like five ddoses waiting to happen...
861599;1412629785;mircea_popescu;!up junkie
861600;1412629793;mircea_popescu;;;later tell sgornick nice of you eh.
861601;1412629793;gribble;The operation succeeded.
861602;1412630753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1325 @ 0.000589 = 0.7804 BTC [+]
861603;1412631569;mircea_popescu;;;seen psterryl
861604;1412631569;gribble;psterryl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 26 weeks, 2 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: how many individual trades there were
861605;1412631747;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/receiver-for-bflabs/
861606;1412632117;mircea_popescu;"According to the report, a work for successfully enforcing the schooling has been dynamically pushed forward as the one involving the whole state, all people and the whole society and signal successes have been made in it."
861607;1412632132;mircea_popescu;i guess ex-drpk bureaucrats can probably find job writing forum prospectuses.
861608;1412632436;mike_c;;;seen wyrdmantis
861609;1412632436;gribble;wyrdmantis was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 3 days, 11 hours, 54 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: Alibaba IPO? Totally unrelated to this downmove?
861610;1412632516;mike_c;;;isitdown bcoinnews.com
861611;1412632518;gribble;bcoinnews.com is up
861612;1412632536;mike_c;not for me gribble.
861613;1412632644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17120 @ 0.00074556 = 12.764 BTC [+]
861614;1412632748;kakobrekla;!s bitlendingclub
861615;1412632748;assbot;0 results for 'bitlendingclub' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitlendingclub
861616;1412632794;kakobrekla;400% apr https://bitlendingclub.com hehe
861617;1412632796;assbot;BitLendingClub: Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending Platform
861618;1412633071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00074298 = 14.3024 BTC [-] {3}
861619;1412633120;xanthyos;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dAHGvmT6v8
861620;1412633120;assbot;Earth Time Lapse, International Space Station, ISS, Fly Over, ORBIT HD - YouTube
861621;1412633744;punkman;http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Rare-Apple-iPhone-6-Prototype-64gb-/171483815097
861622;1412633744;assbot;Brand New RARE Apple iPhone 6 Prototype 64GB | eBay
861623;1412633771;punkman;;;calc 100000 / [tlast]
861624;1412633772;gribble;301.8503426
861625;1412633822;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1000000 / [twontlast]
861626;1412633822;gribble;Error: "twontlast" is not a valid command.
861627;1412633846;mircea_popescu;it's not as much a command as a scrying :D
861628;1412634139;ben_vulpes;;;tlast
861629;1412634141;gribble;331.38
861630;1412634148;ben_vulpes;ah.
861631;1412634150;ben_vulpes;;;bcstats
861632;1412634152;gribble;Current Blocks: 324180 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 395 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35337713013.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.95112
861633;1412634477;mircea_popescu;!up tomding
861634;1412634824;punkman;here have some weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAoME_aMm1w
861635;1412634824;assbot;T.O.P - DOOM DADA M/V - YouTube
861636;1412635229;thickasthieves;or writing prospectii for Pat Byrne http://www.wired.com/2014/10/overstock-com-assembles-coders-build-bitcoin-like-stock-market/
861637;1412635229;assbot;Overstock.com Assembles Coders to Create a Bitcoin-Like Stock Market | WIRED
861638;1412635290;thickasthieves;"After Overstock builds its cryptosecurity software—which will likely take several months—Byrne intends to present the system to regulators for approval. But this may be difficult to win, because the SEC and the incumbent banks are so set in their ways."
861639;1412635306;punkman;lol
861640;1412635316;mircea_popescu;heh.
861641;1412635342;mircea_popescu;lettuce never learn from the mistakes of asicminer. lettuce forever be speshul and cover the same wrong turns.
861642;1412635342;thickasthieves;ftr i was never offered the position :)
861643;1412635365;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-analysis-of-a-failure-asicminer/ for absolutely no reason.
861644;1412635366;assbot;The analysis of a failure : Asicminer pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861645;1412635451;thickasthieves;AM is selling $0.33/GH now, i wonder if thatmeans theyll pay divs again
861646;1412635538;thickasthieves;;;estimate
861647;1412635539;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 35371817081.7 based on data since last change | 39333332992.6 based on data for last three days
861648;1412635549;thickasthieves;lol was 37 yesterday
861649;1412635575;mircea_popescu;yea prolly gonna bust that 41 or 43 or w/e the bet was
861650;1412635579;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats
861651;1412635582;gribble;Current Blocks: 324182 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 393 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35371817081.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.04952
861652;1412635601;mircea_popescu;it went up a whole .1% in twenty minutes, that estimation.
861653;1412637505;mircea_popescu;fucking arsonists these people.
861654;1412637511;mircea_popescu;2nd fire in my building in like a month or so
861655;1412637547;TheNewDeal;grease fire?
861656;1412637569;thickasthieves;argentinians are pretty greasy
861657;1412637579;mircea_popescu;nah this smells like paper
861658;1412637594;mircea_popescu;i guess must be a dyi divorce gone bad or something
861659;1412637703;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1VAT8RZ.txt )
861660;1412637703;BingoBoingo;!b 6
861661;1412637768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.00012 = 0.6 BTC
861662;1412637883;BingoBoingo;qntra traffic thus far, I'll get on cazalla to set up quantcast when he's back: http://i.imgur.com/HaGe47Y.png
861663;1412638311;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, "The term "palimony" is not a legal or historical term, but rather a colloquial portmanteau of the words pal and alimony coined by celebrity divorce attorney Marvin Mitchelson in 1977 when his client Michelle Triola Marvin filed an unsuccessful suit against the actor Lee Marvin."
861664;1412638322;mircea_popescu;seems it'd have been better called marvinomy
861665;1412639370;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/rockminer-r4-devices-seized-at-customs-one-person-detained/
861666;1412639854;TheNewDeal;;;trust penguirker
861667;1412639854;gribble;Error: "trust" is not a valid command.
861668;1412639876;TheNewDeal;;;gettrust penguirker
861669;1412639876;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user TheNewDeal to user penguirker: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=TheNewDeal&dest=penguirker | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=penguirker | Rated since: never
861670;1412640593;BingoBoingo;Animals in captivity: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/10/06/1837237/lennart-poettering-open-source-community-quite-a-sick-place-to-be-in
861671;1412640594;assbot;Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In" - Slashdot
861672;1412640713;BingoBoingo;Poettering on Linus: "But more importantly, I'd actually put some blame on a certain circle of folks that play a major role in kernel development, and first and foremost Linus Torvalds himself. By many he is a considered a role model, but he is quite a bad one. If he posts words like "[specific folks] ...should be retroactively aborted. Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that?"
861673;1412640879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6953 @ 0.00074155 = 5.156 BTC [-]
861674;1412641631;mod6;this qntra.net is p cool. looks good in lynx too.
861675;1412641648;dub;not sure about the pink
861676;1412641700;asciilifeform;'people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me' << lulz
861677;1412641771;BingoBoingo;mod6: Thanks. I'll make sure cazalla sees the praise.
861678;1412641893;midnightmagic;Linus is a drunk, I don't know why anybody expects anything different from him.
861679;1412641922;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: What's wrong with being a drunk? ALso his attidtude gets results.
861680;1412641930;mod6;BingoBoingo: werd
861681;1412641941;BingoBoingo;dub: What's pink?
861682;1412642044;midnightmagic;I don't really care much about his attitude. But his brain is malfunctioning because he is drunk all the time.
861683;1412642097;midnightmagic;Also his drinking gets in the way of being a functional human.
861684;1412642183;asciilifeform;herr poettering is quite close to destroying linux as a going concern, imho.
861685;1412642204;asciilifeform;interesting that one usg mole could achieve this.
861686;1412642220;BingoBoingo;What is this shit? Did Hemmingway's drinking get in the way? Did Hunter S. Thompson's drinking get in the way? Maybe drinking is what keeps Linus effective in the face of Poetterings?
861687;1412642233;asciilifeform;a very curious 'effective'
861688;1412642302;midnightmagic;Other people being able to handle, or not, their drinking has nothing to do with whether Linus can.
861689;1412642336;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, Red Hat gave him the platform. Fedora has close ties with Gnome... Basically one mole and a turdware vendor set up dominoes.
861690;1412642351;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: But where is the evidence Linus can't
861691;1412642425;midnightmagic;BingoBoingo: You mean aside from every major talk he's given in the last X years in front of an audience and bragged about how he got blotto'd the night before?
861692;1412642464;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: That isn't ineffective. That's efficiency. Cramming as much living as possible into his time.
861693;1412642466;midnightmagic;Or do you mean aside from the steep decline in cognition in the last decade or so?
861694;1412642479;midnightmagic;Drinking until you can't remember is not "living." It is "dying."
861695;1412642548;BingoBoingo;If you get the success to get a big old role of drink tickets with your invite to speak at an event not using the decreases your compensation. Also drinking to forget clears crud out of the brain.
861696;1412642590;midnightmagic;I suppose that's so if you think your own body has no value.
861697;1412642644;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic: My body is a temple. Maybe it is some rural tribal arrangement made of straw held together with Giraffe shit, but god damn it, it is still a temple!
861698;1412642657;midnightmagic;:)
861699;1412642667;midnightmagic;<3 giraffes
861700;1412642741;midnightmagic;You'll have to let me know what trick is required to target the crud and not the good stuff. I would personally like to drink more quebecois beer..
861701;1412642784;BingoBoingo;If you burn out your body with hard living at 67, maybe you only lose one year at the end to convalescing. If you treat it like some nerd's transformer doll in the packaging and live to 90, that's 2-3 decades of convalescing.
861702;1412642804;BingoBoingo;midnightmagic> You'll have to let me know what trick is required to target the crud and not the good stuff. I would personally like to drink more quebecois beer.. << Practice. Also hard liquor.
861703;1412643905;ben_vulpes;BingoBoingo: there are some surprisingly fit and able 60 year-old men out there.
861704;1412643923;BingoBoingo;Sure
861705;1412644048;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/06/5-days-of-qntra/
861706;1412644779;mike_c;any insight into where qntra traffic is coming from?
861707;1412644843;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Incoming links mostly it seems. People tend to be reading multiple things per day
861708;1412645007;TomServo;mircea_popescu: but that's what you were there for right ? << Indeed, but still... wow. I was ill prepared.
861709;1412645112;mike_c;i am an early fan. needs more pics of casascius coins though.
861710;1412645140;BingoBoingo;mike_c: At some point someone is probably going to post an image
861711;1412645395;BingoBoingo;!up brianhoffman
861712;1412646229;decimation;re: lennart << anyone who has done anything that deals with a relatively unfiltered mass public knows how derpy and stupid the masses are. why should 'open source' be an exception?
861713;1412646308;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00074155 = 14.0524 BTC [-]
861714;1412646518;decimation;actually this is related to lennart's whining: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
861715;1412646521;assbot;I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup | Slate Star Codex
861716;1412646553;decimation;it's pretty much a crypto-rehash of moldbug's red/blue distinction but written to appeal to liberals
861717;1412646624;decimation;anyway it is related to lennart because he complains about how much vitriol he faces - he is definitely part of an 'outgroup' - people who share many similarities except they differ strongly over specific beliefs
861718;1412647312;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.00999999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.231 BTC. Current weight: 98,918.
861719;1412647589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00074153 = 10.3814 BTC [-] {2}
861720;1412648068;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/
861721;1412648559;mircea_popescu; Animals in captivity: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/10/06/1837237/lennart-poettering-open-source-community-quite-a-sick-place-to-be-in <<< right, why is not the world more like microshit.
861722;1412648560;assbot;Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In" - Slashdot
861723;1412648585;mircea_popescu;;;rate lennart_poettering -1 should have been aborted.
861724;1412648585;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
861725;1412648589;mircea_popescu;o wow
861726;1412648601;BingoBoingo;gribble blinked earlier
861727;1412648605;asciilifeform;never too late to abort a fella.
861728;1412648639;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo btw is linus on freenode ?
861729;1412648647;BingoBoingo;Probably?
861730;1412648659;mircea_popescu; this qntra.net is p cool. looks good in lynx too. << it does! not sure about the pink << that's because of all the gay.
861731;1412648686;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, i think it's andresen (with one 's')
861732;1412648697;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic> Linus is a drunk, I don't know why anybody expects anything different from him. << linus actually has a point.
861733;1412648718;mircea_popescu;it's all the idiotic faggoty dumbasses with "women's issues" and "being polite" and inane crap like that that are the problem,
861734;1412648725;mircea_popescu;and roughly speaking the reason the world stinks.
861735;1412648771;mircea_popescu; herr poettering is quite close to destroying linux as a going concern, imho. << no. what he is close to is destroying the notion of "updates" as a going concern. which is a fucking brilliant thing, they should have died ten years ago.
861736;1412648830;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: before you freeze something, first have to make sure it isn't a turd. (unless stool sample...)
861737;1412648855;mircea_popescu;apparently ##Linux which is fucking weird. i thought linus owned the term linux
861738;1412648882;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform orly ? is this how the two hotties i had sundaes with earlier were made ?
861739;1412648893;mircea_popescu;tell you what. do your best, freeze it, see if it survives or dies.
861740;1412648907;mircea_popescu;that's the model. that's the model that made video gaming a thing, where there was previously no thing.
861741;1412648953;*;asciilifeform is not advocating update cycle, believes that anything worth calling 'os' is worth burning in mask ROM
861742;1412648969;asciilifeform;but burning any extant linux into mask rom - is recipe for tears.
861743;1412648994;mircea_popescu;so ?
861744;1412648997;mircea_popescu;tears make the best lube
861745;1412649003;mircea_popescu;after blood, at any rate.
861746;1412649019;mircea_popescu;tear avoidance is not a strategy for orgasm finding.
861747;1412649064;mircea_popescu;in other news, i got a spam comment from "Discount True Religion Canada Online". which seems just about right.
861748;1412649065;*;asciilifeform is currently fighting with 'grub2' and desperately wants to see blood
861749;1412649066;asciilifeform;their blood.
861750;1412649082;decimation;asciilifeform: I would like someone from 'grub' to explain in what what 'grub2' was an improvement
861751;1412649094;decimation;it's an order of magnitude more complex to manage for trival benefits
861752;1412649095;asciilifeform;decimation: ask poettering.
861753;1412649096;mircea_popescu;what what in the butt!
861754;1412649122;decimation;is he behind that too?
861755;1412649139;asciilifeform;not afaik
861756;1412649145;BingoBoingo;;;googl what what in the butt song
861757;1412649145;gribble;Error: "googl" is not a valid command.
861758;1412649153;asciilifeform;but he could explain why everything needs to be 'updated' and 'reinvented111!1' until end of time
861759;1412649155;BingoBoingo;;;google what what in the butt song
861760;1412649155;gribble;Samwell - "What What (In the Butt)" - YouTube: ; What What (In the Butt) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; What, What In the Butt - Video Clip | South Park Studios:
861761;1412649191;thestringpuller;south park did it better
861762;1412649195;mircea_popescu; any insight into where qntra traffic is coming from? << cazalla ran off with a lass, but he'll be back midweek, ima push him to put quantcast in there, then you can see directly.
861763;1412649218;mircea_popescu; i am an early fan. needs more pics of casascius coins though. << this is a point. topical, related, meaningful pics are a good add.
861764;1412649260;dub;inb4 sharpies
861765;1412649295;mircea_popescu;you know you seem oddly fascinated with that part
861766;1412649321;asciilifeform;and who the fuck decided that a perfectly good 'eth0' should turn into 'enp0s29u1u1' ?
861767;1412649340;asciilifeform;at that point i don't even care what the reasoning was. i don't care if it saved a thousand orphans from a fiery death.
861768;1412649356;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/029P53E.txt )
861769;1412649356;BingoBoingo;!b 4
861770;1412649363;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what is this ?!
861771;1412649377;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: a recent gentoo
861772;1412649385;mircea_popescu;i live a very sheltered life it seems.
861773;1412649432;decimation;asciilifeform: well, basically the issue is that no one who wrote the original linux network subsystem apparently never conceived of how to enumerate devices
861774;1412649441;dub;are you ragin at grub or 'hotplug' or whatever it is
861775;1412649460;decimation;that-and - lots of hardware makers suck at actually making hardware, and their customers demand a software fix
861776;1412649460;asciilifeform;decimation: i don't give a damn - it was sane before, and is turd-encrusted now in 100 ways
861777;1412649464;mircea_popescu;decimation isn't that what the 0 is for ?
861778;1412649491;decimation;one specific instance I know of - dell reversed the '1 and 2' ethernet ports in the bios
861779;1412649508;asciilifeform;decimation: so these should be collected and burned.
861780;1412649513;mircea_popescu;or flashed
861781;1412649516;asciilifeform;why should my reasonable box suffer?
861782;1412649517;mircea_popescu;which i guess is burning
861783;1412649519;decimation;asciilifeform: indeed.
861784;1412649530;decimation;but the masses instead demand a kernel change
861785;1412649540;asciilifeform;kernel demands a masses change.
861786;1412649569;BingoBoingo;At this rate we'll probably see Stanix before Loper
861787;1412649582;decimation;linux would be 10x the disaster it already is today if linus wasn't in charge
861788;1412649590;BingoBoingo;That is true
861789;1412649667;mircea_popescu;quite.
861790;1412649731;decimation;but I agree that the ethernet enumeration is crazy
861791;1412649742;decimation;but I also submit it's because the underlying hardware world is crazy
861792;1412649756;mircea_popescu;"Tolerance is definitely considered a virtue, but it suffers the same sort of dimished expectations forgiveness does."
861793;1412649769;mircea_popescu;foir the record that piece quoted earlier is incredibly braindamaged.
861794;1412649776;decimation;heh I thought of your post on forgiveness
861795;1412649818;decimation;the guy who wrote is obviously fascinated with reactionary thought but is also a liberal jew
861796;1412649829;mircea_popescu;the guy in charge is roughly in the position of poettering
861797;1412649846;mircea_popescu;"how to pretend like i'm doing something really important by doing something really really complex, that happens to also be very stupid"
861798;1412649851;decimation;The most interesting thing about it is the comment section, where Brandon Eich chimed in
861799;1412649859;mircea_popescu;i have no idea who that is.
861800;1412649882;decimation;he's the guy that was fired from mozilla for giving money to some anti-gay-marriage group
861801;1412649928;mircea_popescu;"Northern Irish Protestants and Northern Irish Catholics. Hutus and Tutsis" perhaps the most ignorant piece of drivel ion there. im counting it as two strikes in one at any rate.
861802;1412649962;mircea_popescu;for the clueless in the audience : the tutsis and the hutus are not different in any way, except the belgian missionarries picked the better looking adolescent boys/girls to "educate" ie, sex up
861803;1412649971;mircea_popescu;and then held them apart for the rest of the population.
861804;1412649977;decimation;I think that this guy hangs out with the lesswrong crowd too
861805;1412649990;mircea_popescu;this has exactly fucking nothing with the policies of religion and collaborationism witrh the invader in ireland.
861806;1412650085;mircea_popescu;anyway, i keep hoping maybe one days one of these libertards with unwarranted delusions of awareness comes by to peddle his stock of derpage.
861807;1412650088;mircea_popescu;it'll be a fun day.
861808;1412650148;mircea_popescu;http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1407.3/00650.html << this was a pretty good read.
861809;1412650149;assbot;Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: Random panic in load_balance() with 3.16-rc
861810;1412650171;thestringpuller;"don't press the panic button unless it is actual emergency"
861811;1412650227;decimation;what I find amusing is that the lefties don't get that they are in a relgious war because they don't even realize that what they are derping about is metaphysics
861812;1412650230;xanthyos;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HlplfG5Ezk
861813;1412650230;assbot;Shatner on Mountain Climbing - YouTube
861814;1412650269;mircea_popescu;that slashdot is instructive too. "by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Sunday July 27, 2014 @03:33PM (#47544763) His manner is coarse, but you must admit that he's gotten the job done. Linux advances on schedule, patches get incorporated, code gets tested, and all proceeds smoothly." "by Concerned Onlooker (473481) on Sunday July 27, 2014 @03:45PM (#47544841) Homepage Journal And Mussolini made the trains run on time?"
861815;1412650285;decimation;Deep in the comments: "Friend of mine was a mid level product manager on Firefox. What she told me is that Eich’s dismissal was entirely due to politics. Specifically, Mozilla is this interesting hybrid organization that relies on it’s global open source community in order to Get Stuff Done, and they couldn’t risk alienating all the volunteers and contributors who make Mozilla possible."
861816;1412650288;mircea_popescu;this is exactly the fucking problem. libtards don't want to live in a country that works, they want to live in a country run by obama.
861817;1412650296;decimation;(on the topic of why Eich was fired)
861818;1412650302;mircea_popescu;and the problem is, not enough heads on pikes around the lord's castle.
861819;1412650305;The20YearIRCloud;joy
861820;1412650323;mircea_popescu;if i ran a country i'd give linus the right to pass death sentences, and sent the secret service to execute them.
861821;1412650328;mircea_popescu;best code in the universe.
861822;1412650336;The20YearIRCloud;linus?
861823;1412650342;mircea_popescu;yeah.
861824;1412650374;decimation;yeah that would be a pretty good way of doing business
861825;1412650389;mircea_popescu;im curious how many it'd come to, in a decade.
861826;1412650520;mircea_popescu;"("Getting the job done" does not, and has never required being abusive to others. Getting the job done while being abusive is not proof that being abusive is required or even was part of, "getting the job done.")"
861827;1412650529;mircea_popescu;all the idiotic bullshit the left keeps spouting.
861828;1412650535;mircea_popescu;the only conceivable cure is liberal beatings.
861829;1412650822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00074329 = 4.98 BTC [+]
861830;1412650896;The20YearIRCloud;i figure it'll all come around eventually and they'll figure out what's going on
861831;1412650930;mircea_popescu;yeah. except with liberal beatings it's come about tomorrow.
861832;1412650938;mircea_popescu;AND there'd be fewer people around.
861833;1412650944;mircea_popescu;the absolute win-win scenario.
861834;1412651020;The20YearIRCloud;if it'd be legal
861835;1412651022;decimation;as I recall Mr. Yarvin quoted Lord Cromer as saying that he reckoned he could effectively rule egypt if he could publicly hang one egyptian of his choosing per year
861836;1412651049;The20YearIRCloud;my only kind of happiness comes in the liberal douches going through really bad parts of town with 'oppressed people' to only find out the 'oppressed' hate them and steal/rob/rape
861837;1412651071;The20YearIRCloud;Not that I wish evil in liberals (They're people too), but their mindset sponsors alot of really awful things
861838;1412651094;mircea_popescu;i guess since legal matters so much all planes sohuld be equipped with a congressman the way old ships were equipped with a priest
861839;1412651103;mircea_popescu;if the worst comes to worst, he can just make whatever disaster illegal temporarily.
861840;1412651108;The20YearIRCloud;lol
861841;1412651137;thestringpuller;bad parts of town are dope though
861842;1412651146;thestringpuller;especially when you find 2-3 hard working hood rats.
861843;1412651185;The20YearIRCloud;I'm sure they're there, the problem i have is that those places are such cesspools because of liberal ideology
861844;1412651209;The20YearIRCloud;My county is 80%+ right-wing, and we don't have those kinds of places
861845;1412651316;mircea_popescu;i dunno, i'm kinda zone blind, i tend to have more fun in the "bad" parts of town
861846;1412651377;The20YearIRCloud;our 'bad parts' (of columbus) have crime rates 60-100 times higher than those areas outside of them
861847;1412651497;decimation;"For example, to run Egypt - a country of 10 million people, then - Cromer had about 1000 British civil servants. If you count all the Western diplomats, development experts, NGOistas, and the like, for whom the present parlous state of Egypt provides employment, how many do you get? A lot more than 1 per 10,000 Egyptians, I suspect. How many Westerners are employed in bandaging and rebandaging the permanent ulcer of Africa? Um, a
861848;1412651499;decimation;lot."
861849;1412651506;decimation;http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again.html
861850;1412651506;assbot;Unqualified Reservations: From Cromer to Romer and back again: colonialism for the 21st century
861851;1412651564;The20YearIRCloud;Where did the other 72 million people in egypt go?
861852;1412651586;decimation;he ruled egypt at the turn of the last century
861853;1412651621;The20YearIRCloud;ah
861854;1412651634;decimation;and so there you go - how would 10,000 poetterings continue to "code" if linus could execute them?
861855;1412652169;mircea_popescu;decimation the comparison is really unfair. the 1000 people had penicillin. today's africans have the internet.
861856;1412652211;asciilifeform;all planes sohuld be equipped with a congressman << lol, korean air lines 007.
861857;1412652219;mircea_popescu;and the point isn't to execute 10k derps. to make such a claim is to bestow qualities upon them they never have nor will ever have.
861858;1412652242;mircea_popescu;the point is to execute one, to give the remaining 9999 some good role models for their life, and the limits and structure they desperately need.
861859;1412652255;decimation;that's what I was about to write :)
861860;1412652262;decimation;hang one, educate 1000
861861;1412652267;mircea_popescu;every derp derping on "social media" about the libtard themes is really a very badly brought up preteen crying for help.
861862;1412652302;thestringpuller;The20YearIRCloud: those places are such cesspools because of liberal ideology << some of them are created through the antithesis of that. like the remnants of slavery/apartheid/segregation etc.
861863;1412652307;mircea_popescu;so, you know, free all the 13 yos trapped in 28 yo bodies.
861864;1412652359;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller the problem is that "the remants of slavery/apartheid/segregation etc." === "liberal ideology"
861865;1412652380;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: two sides of the same coin?
861866;1412652400;mircea_popescu;pretty much the same side imo.
861867;1412652403;thestringpuller;welfare and segregation spawn from the same ideology? that seems reasonable tho.
861868;1412652406;mircea_popescu;perhaps im missing the subtleties.
861869;1412652427;thestringpuller;as they both affect the same socioeconomic groups for some reason...
861870;1412652435;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller the shameful secret at the root of all liberal ideology is the plain notion that "those niggers" are not really people, and so must be treated differently from people.
861871;1412652442;mircea_popescu;specifically, must be treated like animals.
861872;1412652459;mircea_popescu;if you compare how you treat your pets and how the average liberal intends to treat "those people" you get a scary identity.
861873;1412652466;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1WZSN12.txt )
861874;1412652466;thestringpuller;!b 3
861875;1412652469;thestringpuller;wise words
861876;1412652493;mircea_popescu;and it's nothing short of insulting, not just to "those people" in quuestion, but to people everywhere.
861877;1412652521;thestringpuller;it's like the hobo problem in south park
861878;1412652526;mircea_popescu;which is the gist of stuff like http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/
861879;1412652527;assbot;Fried chicken pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861880;1412652531;thestringpuller;you give them a litle change, and they'll just ask for more
861881;1412652601;thestringpuller;Good 'ol Rhonda.
861882;1412652607;mircea_popescu;well, kinda worse than that. you don't give them a little change, you insist and repeat that they gotta get a little change.
861883;1412652624;thestringpuller;You make fun of an Italian eating pasta no one really cares.
861884;1412652646;thestringpuller;You point out negro's like fried chicken and it's racist. Hmmm...the plot thickens.
861885;1412652654;mircea_popescu;yeah. because italians may be people. like, individuals. so you make fun of that italian.
861886;1412652666;mircea_popescu;but black people don't have that. they have no souls, in the libertard's view.
861887;1412652673;mircea_popescu;so you can't make fun of the one guy, the one guy doesn't exist.
861888;1412652678;mircea_popescu;you only can make fun of the whole group.
861889;1412652688;mircea_popescu;it's really disgusting, being a liberal.
861890;1412652744;thestringpuller;I blame the hippies.
861891;1412652754;thestringpuller;But that's just me.
861892;1412652766;mircea_popescu;i dun blame anyone. i'm more into hangings than into blamings.
861893;1412652802;thestringpuller;Ironically all the hippies from days of old are either dead or wearing suits these days.
861894;1412652834;thestringpuller;They shed their libertard skin it seems and a new generation of derps picked it up.
861895;1412652864;mircea_popescu;well like the saying goes, you can't stay socialist for long, it's the ideology of stupid.
861896;1412652895;thestringpuller;it makes everyone feel good, and that they are doing the right thing though.
861897;1412652998;thestringpuller;that was enlightening tho. i now can view socialism from a different light. ty mircea_popescu
861898;1412653036;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/reddit-ceo-shames-ex-reddit-staffer-on-reddit-you-wer-1642998030
861899;1412653036;assbot;Reddit CEO Shames Ex-Reddit Staffer on Reddit: "You Were Fired"
861900;1412653059;BingoBoingo;!up WolfGoethe
861901;1412653085;WolfGoethe;Hi all, had some awesome conversation here before. Missed it
861902;1412653105;BingoBoingo;Hi WolfGoethe
861903;1412653114;BingoBoingo;!s WolfGoethe
861904;1412653115;assbot;0 results for 'WolfGoethe' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=WolfGoethe
861905;1412653126;WolfGoethe;my nick then was Ghaleon
861906;1412653141;BingoBoingo;!s Ghaleon
861907;1412653142;assbot;72 results for 'Ghaleon' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Ghaleon
861908;1412653144;BingoBoingo;ty
861909;1412653174;WolfGoethe;What is the most vital thing we must focus on now as a community ?
861910;1412653181;TheNewDeal;nihilism?
861911;1412653202;BingoBoingo;Manuls?
861912;1412653216;asciilifeform;manuls - out; colocolos - in ?
861913;1412653234;decimation;"as a community"?
861914;1412653273;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Maybe hybridizing the two?
861915;1412653289;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: result - cat thicker than he is long ?
861916;1412653315;BingoBoingo;Of course, also better immune systems than manuls typically have.
861917;1412653335;BingoBoingo;http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Streets-of-San-Francisco-drenched-in-urine-4658210.php
861918;1412653335;assbot;Streets of San Francisco drenched in urine - SFGate
861919;1412653477;WolfGoethe;we need to "close the circle" like the 13 colonies did. need a 20 year plan at least
861920;1412653533;BingoBoingo;WolfGoethe: Well doubling the blocksize every year for two decades is probably a problematic plan
861921;1412653571;asciilifeform;http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames << re: earlier crapolade
861922;1412653572;assbot;PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
861923;1412653575;WolfGoethe;how bout we just start thinking ahead first
861924;1412653618;decimation;asciilifeform: I should have known that lennart was behind that
861925;1412653621;mats_cd03;don't tell me what to do
861926;1412653637;mats_cd03;ur not my real dad
861927;1412653686;asciilifeform;decimation: i think it's in stock udev though
861928;1412653708;asciilifeform;decimation: so not even herr poettering's idea.
861929;1412653728;decimation;this seems like a nonsolution to a non problem
861930;1412653745;asciilifeform;it all sums to this. yes, i get it, you (for some value of 'you') like to pull your network cards out every morning, and cry when your 'eth0' ends up 'eth2' etc.
861931;1412653752;asciilifeform;and so that you don't cry, normal people have to bleed.
861932;1412653771;decimation;well except the kernel exposes that stuff in /proc or whatever
861933;1412653781;WolfGoethe;Why do you all think the price is so low?
861934;1412653784;asciilifeform;this is the basic 'ephialtes' logic of the retardation in question.
861935;1412653811;decimation;ephialtes?
861936;1412653811;asciilifeform;'i'm a hunchback, everybody should be a hunchback'
861937;1412653816;decimation;heh
861938;1412653820;asciilifeform;as pictured in the film '300'.
861939;1412653852;asciilifeform;!s ephialtes
861940;1412653853;assbot;2 results for 'ephialtes' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ephialtes
861941;1412653935;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLzeBE7QR0
861942;1412653935;assbot;300 Leonidas And Ephialtes Blu-ray - YouTube
861943;1412653941;mircea_popescu;!up WolfGoethe
861944;1412653955;WolfGoethe;Hi Mircea
861945;1412653970;mircea_popescu;ello
861946;1412653991;decimation;in that slatestarcodex post, nyrwracu calls this the 'law of Jante'
861947;1412654006;WolfGoethe;I have been discussing with many folks why the price is tanking. it seems quite natural considering that btc is more of an asset than a currency... merchants are covnerting right to fiat and thus putting sell pressure on the exchanges
861948;1412654010;mircea_popescu; "as a community"? << yeah seriously. lettuce focus as electromagnetic radiation instead.
861949;1412654024;decimation;!s jante law
861950;1412654025;assbot;4 results for 'jante law' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=jante+law
861951;1412654030;mircea_popescu;WolfGoethe suppose you read the logs for the past few days and/or http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/
861952;1412654031;assbot;The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
861953;1412654052;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
861954;1412654052;assbot;Law of Jante - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
861955;1412654110;WolfGoethe;yes, saw your blog
861956;1412654130;WolfGoethe;they shall continue to tax the people with inflation thru the control of the volume of funds
861957;1412654153;WolfGoethe;my concern is how do we evolve bitcoin
861958;1412654156;mircea_popescu;so then. the price tanked temporarily because the usg tried, and failed, to kill it.
861959;1412654162;mircea_popescu;and we don't anything.
861960;1412654162;WolfGoethe;we need to close the circle
861961;1412654165;mircea_popescu;you're not even in the wot.
861962;1412654193;TheNewDeal;...crickets...
861963;1412654225;WolfGoethe;in the wot?
861964;1412654240;decimation;I suspect by "evolve bitcon" you mean "increase the usd price"
861965;1412654243;mircea_popescu;hence the invitaiton to read a lot more.
861966;1412654271;WolfGoethe;the usd price is irrelevant
861967;1412654286;WolfGoethe;the goal is to evolve bitcoin by making the usd irrelvent
861968;1412654305;WolfGoethe;once bitcoin "closes the circle" then it shall be a true competitor to the usd
861969;1412654318;WolfGoethe;this is what they fear most as is evident by the case of the 13 colonies
861970;1412654319;decimation;k.
861971;1412654358;WolfGoethe;here is a decent presentation on this concept - http://blog.easybitz.com/2014/10/05/closing-the-circle/
861972;1412654359;assbot;Closing the Circle | EasyBitz Blog
861973;1412654371;asciilifeform;'If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!'
861974;1412654387;decimation;lol
861975;1412654411;WolfGoethe;I welcome any reading resources you have. I've gone thru mullins works, griffths works, "history of money by jack weatherford" was also awesome. and several books on europe in the 30;s
861976;1412654429;WolfGoethe;I'm no expert but I am trying to think deeply
861977;1412654439;mircea_popescu;what do you do for a living ?
861978;1412654448;WolfGoethe;the best chance we have now to close the circle is to focus on retail adoption me thinks
861979;1412654461;WolfGoethe;I'm a coder mircea and entrepreneur, nothin special
861980;1412654466;mircea_popescu;but who are you to think.
861981;1412654472;mircea_popescu;ok, what did you code, what did you entreprene
861982;1412654497;WolfGoethe;I was bron human, this it is my duty to think.. very unamerican I know lol
861983;1412654542;WolfGoethe;I code web mostly. many platforms. had a few startups. did the napster of Ringtones in 2000. and a few social networking sites. and now working on some bitcoin stuff.
861984;1412654549;mircea_popescu;this is like saying, "i have a computer, it is my duty to generate random strings and publish them"
861985;1412654550;mircea_popescu;not so.
861986;1412654603;WolfGoethe;not ready to have a chat about the nature of consciousness right now
861987;1412654614;WolfGoethe;maybe once I have some green tea
861988;1412654627;WolfGoethe;I do want to think tacticall with you tho
861989;1412654648;WolfGoethe;not many who can think on your lvl in the scene, from what I recall
861990;1412654650;mircea_popescu;well that's nice.
861991;1412654673;*;asciilifeform wishes to ask handlers of ninjasp4mz0r that the 'iq' dial should be turned clockwise (up) rather than counter-clockwise (down) when agent failure.
861992;1412654685;decimation;lol
861993;1412654692;*;asciilifeform is not impressed with current shot
861994;1412654728;decimation;he is persistent
861995;1412654786;WolfGoethe;what do u guys think of videos like this? http://vimeo.com/107847867
861996;1412654787;assbot;Vendys Bitcoin 1st draft on Vimeo
861997;1412654903;WolfGoethe;we all need to take action to make Bitcoin mainstream
861998;1412654910;asciilifeform;why?
861999;1412654914;WolfGoethe;the lack of morale is my main concern
862000;1412654927;WolfGoethe;I see this like a grass roots social justice movement
862001;1412654934;mircea_popescu;dude wouldja stop with the nonsense. it's ridoinculous.
862002;1412654950;WolfGoethe;? nonsense?
862003;1412655021;mircea_popescu;yes nonsense.
862004;1412655024;mircea_popescu;;;google bitcoin and the poor
862005;1412655025;gribble;Cash transfers in Africa: Bitcoin for the poor | The Economist: ; How Bitcoin Could Help the World's Poor | Acton PowerBlog: ; Lessons From Mobile Payments: Bitcoin Will Not Help the Poor or ...: (1 more message)
862006;1412655032;mircea_popescu;o rly.
862007;1412655055;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-and-the-poor/ there
862008;1412655056;assbot;Bitcoin and the poor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
862009;1412655117;ben_vulpes; and who the fuck decided that a perfectly good 'eth0' should turn into 'enp0s29u1u1' ? << o yikes
862010;1412655121;asciilifeform;incidentally, timeless classic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts
862011;1412655122;assbot;Let Africa Sink
862012;1412655125;asciilifeform;(re: africa)
862013;1412655183;WolfGoethe;you think planning and focusing our efforts to create bitcoin saturated nodes within the west is nonsense?
862014;1412655192;thickasthieves;"In the latest move, Blockchain, a Bitcoin wallet provider and software developer, is expected to announce on Tuesday that it has closed a roughly $30.5 million fund-raising round, led by Lightspeed Venture Partners and Wicklow Capital. The investment, raised from Blockchain’s first round of outside financing, is one of the biggest in the digital currency industry to date."
862015;1412655218;WolfGoethe;bitcoin can indeed help the underbanked... but what about us "over" banked... as in those being crushed by the banks and their fees and hassele
862016;1412655310;mats_cd03;read more and type less
862017;1412655337;WolfGoethe;lol
862018;1412655341;WolfGoethe;ok...
862019;1412655341;ben_vulpes; the only conceivable cure is liberal beatings. << oh ho ho ho
862020;1412655374;mircea_popescu;i guess more derps getting listed.
862021;1412655403;mircea_popescu;WolfGoethe in so many words, yes. and stop using the plural, best anyone can determine you're a solitary guy with his hopes, aspirations, confused mainstream mental impactions and internet connection.
862022;1412655410;mircea_popescu;these five elements do not require a plural pronoun
862023;1412655487;mircea_popescu; as pictured in the film '300'. << it's an insane depiction. the original guy was actually pericle's master.
862024;1412655500;ben_vulpes; if you compare how you treat your pets and how the average liberal intends to treat "those people" you get a scary identity. << oh come i only feed the pets when they behave
862025;1412655503;WolfGoethe;I'm in NYC and go to all the bitcoin dev meetups. coded an api open source project and trying to give back. came here looking to chat and I am being judged so harshly? i know this is irc... but still.
862026;1412655522;mats_cd03;lol
862027;1412655522;WolfGoethe;later
862028;1412655525;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: wrong ephialtes
862029;1412655532;mircea_popescu;WolfGoethe "TALKING ABOUT BITCOIN, EVEN IF IN A GROUP, DOES NOT MAKE YOU PART OF BITCOIN."
862030;1412655537;mircea_popescu;sauce : http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/
862031;1412655538;assbot;A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
862032;1412655540;mats_cd03;run away from the mean people
862033;1412655561;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the one in question is ephialtes of trachis
862034;1412655577;thickasthieves;talking about people that talk about bitcoin doesnt make you part of bitcoin either
862035;1412655579;mircea_popescu;o nm
862036;1412655585;thickasthieves;./troll
862037;1412655602;mircea_popescu;generally the unqualified name refers the other
862038;1412655638;mircea_popescu;"i know this is irc... but still" ?!
862039;1412655645;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is going on in these people's brains i wish to know.
862040;1412655672;ben_vulpes; once bitcoin "closes the circle" then it shall be a true competitor to the usd << what do you mean by "closing the circle"?
862041;1412655710;*;ben_vulpes reads subsequent link
862042;1412655735;ben_vulpes;http://blog.easybitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slides_whatismoney-1024x737.png
862043;1412655744;ben_vulpes;oh man unintentional lulz
862044;1412656016;ben_vulpes;i miss all the good stuff
862045;1412656776;ben_vulpes;fun with electricity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snk3C4m44SY&feature=youtu.be
862046;1412656776;assbot;High Voltage AC/DC Effect on Human Body - YouTube
862047;1412657092;mircea_popescu;well at least you point it out for the rest of us. i didn 't click
862048;1412657304;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the problem with gavin's idiocy isn't merely that "substantial increasing barrier to entry for operators of full nodes", horrid as that may be.
862049;1412657317;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: it starts with
862050;1412657317;ben_vulpes;"The dream is to see Bitcoin mainstream.
862051;1412657319;ben_vulpes;"
862052;1412657341;mircea_popescu;the problem with gavin's idiocy is that roughly speaking, the square of the block size and the total network hash are on opposite sides of an equality, which describes total network security.
862053;1412657375;mircea_popescu;so basically, he's proposing significant downstepping of current blockchain security.
862054;1412657390;mircea_popescu;neither of these are getting merged into bitcoin, whatever gavin says or whatever forks happen.
862055;1412657409;mircea_popescu;if indeed they're stupid enough to fork it, i will sink their fork on the open market.
862056;1412657454;mircea_popescu;and if that's the path they wish to use to introduce faux bitcoin-lite for the us domestic market, that's fine, but it won't go over any better than an attempt from scratch.
862057;1412657461;mircea_popescu;"we" know what bitcoin is and why we're using it.
862058;1412657474;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.6666 BTC for No on "Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1043/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.58476514 BTC. Current weight: 77,721.
862059;1412657516;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574604 << i can't believe this fucktard actually came back under a new name but referenced his old persona.
862060;1412657518;assbot;Logged on 22-03-2014 16:21:56; Ghaleon: hence the typical irc, leet jerk attitude is bout to be extinct
862061;1412657537;mircea_popescu;srsly ?! try every six months, maybe his retardation now fits reality ? go sulk for another six months, try again ?
862062;1412657545;mircea_popescu;hey idiot, how about fixing your head instead ?
862063;1412657556;asciilifeform;hey, vs. mr spam's six weeks.
862064;1412657592;mircea_popescu;i guess. but an oscillator's still an oscillator, no matter the period.
862065;1412657862;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: This is very true about the large blocks working against security. Throw it up there as a comment.
862066;1412657900;mircea_popescu;i';d have left a link on their blog but of course.... cloudflare claims the host is broken
862067;1412657915;mircea_popescu;because cloudflare, as any other usg product, can never be a failful piece of shit that doesn't work.
862068;1412657922;mircea_popescu;obamacare for websites.
862069;1412658044;BingoBoingo;Seriously Cloudflare sites are more unavailable than any others I've seen
862070;1412658054;mircea_popescu;wait, is that guy in the video trying to charge capacitors in an ac circuit ?
862071;1412658063;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo best health care in murica!
862072;1412658181;BingoBoingo;Rly
862073;1412658294;asciilifeform;charge capacitors in an ac circuit << great fun when you're a kid
862074;1412658357;mircea_popescu;heh i guess.
862075;1412658366;mircea_popescu;from the confiscated miners article, "Неизвестно откуда взявшиеся эксперты таможенной службы установили, что металлические конструкции со встроенными в них схемами «предназначены для выполнения специализированных операций расчета хэш-сумм с б
862076;1412658367;mircea_popescu;ольшой скоростью, что позволяет использовать их для концентрации на определенном адресе чисел и денежных средств». Вероятно, это подтверждает высокий уровень технической подготовки экспертов таможенной службы Читы, способных н
862077;1412658367;mircea_popescu;а взгляд определить возможности схем, зашитых в металлический корпус."
862078;1412658376;asciilifeform;^ mega-lol
862079;1412658384;mircea_popescu;what uncharitable bs. really, it's that hard to identify hash chips ? i had no idea o.O
862080;1412658411;asciilifeform;it's a specially-constructed stilted, official language.
862081;1412658431;mircea_popescu;well or a mockery thereof.
862082;1412658432;asciilifeform;used in soviet and perhaps other 'eastern despot' officialdom.
862083;1412658436;asciilifeform;mockery is likely.
862084;1412658445;mircea_popescu;but i mean, "guy came in with 10lbs of undeclared stuff, got it confiscated"
862085;1412658461;mircea_popescu;this reminds me vaguely of the nefario timetravel adventures.
862086;1412658500;asciilifeform;well, to round out story, 'when asked why undeclared, uttered 'bitcoin', received the prescribed five lashes' or the like.
862087;1412658548;mircea_popescu;a much better story would be something like, "company ordered parts, submitted proper importation documents, had them confiscated at border "
862088;1412658558;*;asciilifeform just spent four hours ripping poettering out of what appeared to be a perfectly sanitary gentoo, is mighty pissed
862089;1412658609;mircea_popescu;make sure you post the results.
862090;1412658614;mircea_popescu;"poettering-free gentoo"
862091;1412658630;asciilifeform;lol. next i post the ebola-free pudding recipe.
862092;1412658635;mircea_popescu;whatever the gentoo repackages are called i forget
862093;1412658638;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2WP8YV6.txt )
862094;1412658638;BingoBoingo;!b 4
862095;1412658685;asciilifeform;http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << for a start
862096;1412658685;assbot;Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki
862097;1412658707;asciilifeform;(not my recipe, but from the folks who write recipes)
862098;1412658741;asciilifeform;and - if you don't mask the turd, 'sanitary' gentoo (sans systemd) will indeed pull in udev-systemd by default.
862099;1412658747;mircea_popescu;anyway. the first step riding the world of human excrement is telling the "wolfgoethe"s, poetterings, gavins & co of this world that they are wrong to exist.
862100;1412658790;mircea_popescu;just that simple fact. "no amount of environmentalism helps anything as long as you continue to exist"
862101;1412658809;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/gXrMsoM
862102;1412658809;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
862103;1412658840;mircea_popescu;ahahahaha
862104;1412658849;asciilifeform;(or recall yoga master, with his single nail. gotta start small!)
862105;1412658851;mircea_popescu;o shit this goes with the ak rant
862106;1412658854;mircea_popescu;!up KamiNoCharto
862107;1412658859;asciilifeform;yes, it does.
862108;1412658905;mircea_popescu;why is it "tactical" again ?
862109;1412658913;mircea_popescu;embedded tictacs ?
862110;1412658928;asciilifeform;no amount of environmentalism << 'unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - it's not...'
862111;1412658956;mircea_popescu;where's the quote from ?
862112;1412658969;asciilifeform;!s unless someone like you cares
862113;1412658970;assbot;0 results for 'unless someone like you cares' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=unless+someone+like+you+cares
862114;1412658980;mircea_popescu;ahahaha seusss?
862115;1412658987;asciilifeform;variant is from unwritten mental version of said rhyme
862116;1412659004;asciilifeform;regarding our friends the poetterings et al.
862117;1412659066;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758211 << re: 'tactical'
862118;1412659067;assbot;Logged on 16-07-2014 18:55:26; asciilifeform: as i understand, the term originally applied to brands of optical rifle sight designed to withstand the field (water, whacking over enemy's head, etc.) vs ones that only need to survive a leisurely duck hunt
862119;1412659081;mircea_popescu;"unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - you're rot"
862120;1412659089;mircea_popescu;mno, vocative
862121;1412659095;mircea_popescu;"unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better, you rot!"
862122;1412659109;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/28MVVMK.txt )
862123;1412659109;asciilifeform;!b 1
862124;1412659136;*;asciilifeform invites readers to defile the entire poem
862125;1412659247;mircea_popescu;got a link ?
862126;1412659297;mircea_popescu;meh why so long ;/
862127;1412659340;asciilifeform;http://clubs.cob.calpoly.edu/~cmiller/poetry/The%20Lorax.htm
862128;1412659384;mircea_popescu;yup, same exact one i found. check out the unspeakable diversity of the interwebs,
862129;1412659397;asciilifeform;possibly the only intact copy.
862130;1412659402;asciilifeform;thank the copyrasts.
862131;1412659411;mircea_popescu;meanwhile reduced to about five hundred sites by the unerring sloth and stupidiy of the masses and the unrelenting efforts of the corporation.
862132;1412659430;mircea_popescu;such hellspawn that marriage.
862133;1412659824;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
862134;1412659826;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 335.56, Best ask: 336.59, Bid-ask spread: 1.03000, Last trade: 336.57, 24 hour volume: 56024.71952397, 24 hour low: 298.32, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 318.889388963
862135;1412660402;bgupta;Anyone going to DPR's trial on Thursday?
862136;1412660432;bgupta;I might
862137;1412660613;mthreat;actual trial already?
862138;1412660617;mthreat;or just pretrial?
862139;1412660735;bgupta;Unknown, not well reported.
862140;1412660784;bgupta;All news articles are beign crubbed
862141;1412660790;bgupta;scrubbed
862142;1412660818;bgupta;e.g.- #29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)#cite_note-poststar-29
862143;1412660819;assbot;Silk Road (marketplace) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
862144;1412660914;bgupta;gobimint making ti really hard to know where to show up and say "I am sparticus!"
862145;1412661458;BingoBoingo;!mpif
862146;1412661459;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021881 B (Total: 478.50 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
862147;1412662355;BingoBoingo;Hey pete_dushenski
862148;1412662371;pete_dushenski;decimation: what I find amusing is that the lefties don't get that they are in a relgious war because they don't even realize that what they are derping about is metaphysics << definitely amusing. though you have to figure that *some* know the equalitarianism can't be measured.
862149;1412662375;pete_dushenski;heya BingoBoingo
862150;1412662394;pete_dushenski;nice work on the qntra these last few days :)
862151;1412662407;pete_dushenski;(and to cazalla as well)
862152;1412662444;BingoBoingo;So far mostly cazalla
862153;1412662560;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/#comment-16 << OrganofCorti
862154;1412662562;assbot;Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
862155;1412662616;pete_dushenski;dunno why that dude isn't here already.
862156;1412662648;pete_dushenski;other than his clear reluctance to get in the wot, he seems smart enough.
862157;1412662662;BingoBoingo;Dude's pretty much the guy on mining pools
862158;1412662734;pete_dushenski;mhm
862159;1412662750;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: so, you know, free all the 13 yos trapped in 28 yo bodies. << new mpex fund: freedom28
862160;1412662798;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF
862161;1412662806;pete_dushenski;includes life lessons, discipline, fear, obedience, and unpredictable lashings.
862162;1412662806;mircea_popescu;i am a fourth in and nobody can sleep because of you
862163;1412662830;mircea_popescu;shameful creature of temptation. BACK! YON BEAST!
862164;1412662835;mircea_popescu;the power of jesus compiles you!
862165;1412662879;pete_dushenski;story time chez popescu?
862166;1412662991;pete_dushenski;…rock-a-by slavegirl… in the treetop… when the wind blows… you'll suck on my cock…
862167;1412663003;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1AC02F8.txt )
862168;1412663003;BingoBoingo;!b 4
862169;1412663836;BingoBoingo;!up CheckDavid
862170;1412665230;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptothrift-suspends-escrow-service-coins-lost-in-breech/
862171;1412666733;punkman;"Gavin offers this 50% yearly figure based on Nielsen's Law of Internet bandwidth which supposes high speed Internet connections double in speed every year."
862172;1412666776;punkman;well shit, my bw been the same for like 7 years
862173;1412666833;RagnarDanneskjol;ha seriously
862174;1412667010;punkman;I guess guy was talking about datacenters or something "a high-end user's connection speed grows by 50% per year"
862175;1412669095;sgornick;Will Qntra gets its own irc channel?
862176;1412669455;BingoBoingo;sgornick: It probably won't
862177;1412670329;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-lorax/
862178;1412670329;assbot;The Lorax pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
862179;1412670340;mircea_popescu;sgornick why would it want a difdferent one ?
862180;1412670351;mircea_popescu; I might << if you do, blog it.
862181;1412670491;sgornick;mircea_popescu: To not add qntra-specific noise to #bitcoin-assets. Lots of chatter will be added from it, I suspect.
862182;1412670648;mircea_popescu;there is no distinction between this and that.
862183;1412670671;mircea_popescu;the very point of qntra is for there to not be a distance between truth, as represented here, and news.
862184;1412670678;mircea_popescu;you'll hafta see the logs of its birth.
862185;1412671325;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhAuEYk3ms
862186;1412671325;assbot;Glasser - Shape - YouTube
862187;1412671364;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-lorax/
862188;1412677357;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0007444 = 6.4763 BTC [+]
862189;1412677612;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, "According to CoinThrift the attacked occurred early the morning of October 5th but went undiscovered for some time." s/attacked/attack/c
862190;1412677662;BingoBoingo;fixed
862191;1412678071;BingoBoingo;!up startup2`isninja
862192;1412678445;startup2`isninja;hi
862193;1412678518;BingoBoingo;Hi
862194;1412678681;startup2`isninja;what's new, bingoboingo?
862195;1412678690;BingoBoingo;Not too much
862196;1412678987;startup2`isninja;I'll be back tonight. I may have another offer for people, it would be a 1-year position and primarily of interest to people who want a hedge against price movements against them. My previous offers were not closed via -assets or -otc. (No transactions done.) the total size of the offering would be up to 100 coins, US legal system and contracts, and approximately 2 weeks from now until wire (or transfer.)
862197;1412679003;startup2`isninja;later
862198;1412681123;thickasthieves;hello davout
862199;1412681129;davout;ohai
862200;1412681133;davout;howdy
862201;1412681137;thickasthieves;been bizzy?
862202;1412681206;davout;yeah, wedding + honeymoon mostly
862203;1412681257;thickasthieves;nice
862204;1412681525;BingoBoingo;http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf
862205;1412681726;thickasthieves;usg saying "hey it's only illegal if you get caught right?"
862206;1412681787;thickasthieves;"As a threshold matter, the declaration does not establish that Ulbricht had a reasonable
862207;1412681787;thickasthieves;expectation of privacy in the SR Server, as required for him to have standing to move for its
862208;1412681787;thickasthieves;suppression in the first place"
862209;1412681825;thickasthieves;if you are criminal, why would you think you have right to privacy?
862210;1412681933;thickasthieves;isnt there a greater problem where if the gov did inject code to make the server leak, that this precedent would now allow such action the future
862211;1412681952;thickasthieves;like, if you got a server we dont like, hacking you is fair game
862212;1412682001;BingoBoingo;Pretty much
862213;1412682038;thickasthieves;oh wait, they say it explicitly
862214;1412682049;thickasthieves;"SR Server needed only to be “reasonable” – that is, justified by “legitimate governmental interests.” Vilar, 729 F.3d at 86. Given that the SR Server was hosting a blatantly criminal website, it would have been reasonable for the FBI to “hack” into it in order to search it, as any such “hack” would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain
862215;1412682049;thickasthieves;criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary ."
862216;1412682055;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35664 @ 0.00074532 = 26.5811 BTC [+] {2}
862217;1412682090;bounce;total hax man. also, we don't care about your rights. we don't have to care about your rights. we're the government
862218;1412682136;thickasthieves;well that's preet's take on the matter at least
862219;1412682141;thickasthieves;we'll see what the judge says
862220;1412682194;bounce;judges aren't big on waylaying the government these days.
862221;1412682318;bounce;kinda interesting though, that though it's mostly a dead letter these days over there, you're supposedly still innocent until proven guilty (or badgered into pleading guilty, which they're very good at and do a lot), but that it doesn't go at all for things, like websites. "blatant illegal website!" -- oh, is it? how'd you know that?
862222;1412682354;thickasthieves;good point
862223;1412682369;thickasthieves;like how can a foreign website be illegal?
862224;1412682419;thickasthieves;i suppse it was probably also illegal where SR was hosted
862225;1412682451;thickasthieves;but arent there other precedents saying a website owner isnt responsible for the crimes commited by users of it?
862226;1412682481;thickasthieves;do ebay servers get hacked when they discover coupon counterfeiters?
862227;1412682507;BingoBoingo;Un-pdf turded version here: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
862228;1412682508;assbot;Silk Road: Government files response to Horowitz Declaration
862229;1412682528;bounce;"safe harbor" and like rules, yes. which parties like the MAFIAA like to ignore
862230;1412682570;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
862231;1412682880;BingoBoingo;http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrishamby/government-says-federal-agents-can-impersonate-woman-online#323i2oq
862232;1412682880;assbot;Government Set Up A Fake Facebook Page In This Woman’s Name
862233;1412682936;bounce;huh, sneaky circular argument there. usg says hoster Ts&Cs allowed for monitoring to no privacy for you! -- but how'd they know what server to monitor, hm? tor ought to've made it unfindable.
862234;1412682947;bounce;s/to no/so no/
862235;1412683580;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10423 @ 0.00074579 = 7.7734 BTC [+] {2}
862236;1412683807;thickasthieves;http://imgur.com/a/6rk2e
862237;1412683807;assbot;Bearwhale - Imgur
862238;1412683953;BingoBoingo;Sweet, lotta bearwhale fan art out there. I'm waiting for the slashfic.
862239;1412684342;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/7th-heaven-father-stephen-collins-admits-to-child-moles-1643250821
862240;1412684342;assbot;7th Heaven Dad Stephen Collins Taped Confessing to Child Sex Abuse
862241;1412684605;BingoBoingo;!up aabtcwhiskyhodl
862242;1412684645;aabtcwhiskyhodl;wooo bitcoin
862243;1412684658;BingoBoingo;Yeah whisky and hodl
862244;1412684662;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
862245;1412684663;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 321.03, Best ask: 322.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.47000, Last trade: 322.53, 24 hour volume: 34906.79588908, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 330.464326352
862246;1412684704;BingoBoingo;http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2014/10/07/06/14/apiCa.AuSt.98.jpg
862247;1412684922;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007444 = 3.9081 BTC [-]
862248;1412685104;BingoBoingo;Gavin comments
862249;1412685180;BingoBoingo;http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/#comment-19
862250;1412685182;assbot;Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
862251;1412685775;thickasthieves;bingoboingo, typo maximun
862252;1412685789;thickasthieves;in that article
862253;1412685899;kakobrekla;maxinum
862254;1412685937;thickasthieves;nixamum
862255;1412685959;kakobrekla;maxinum and mininum
862256;1412685983;bounce;such extremum
862257;1412686680;thickasthieves;nytimes reports on bearwhale
862258;1412686682;thickasthieves;lol
862259;1412686683;thickasthieves;http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/bearwhale-is-freaking-out-the-bitcoin-markets.html
862260;1412686684;assbot;BearWhale Is Freaking Out the Bitcoin Markets -- NYMag
862261;1412686698;thickasthieves;nymag*
862262;1412686715;thickasthieves;"nd the Bitcoiners celebrated. "WE JUST HARPOONED THAT MOTHERFUCKER!" wrote one. "While the stock markets were closed, we had our weekend full of laughs and tears. Who doesn't wanna be part of it? Long live the 24/7 free market!" wrote another."
862263;1412686757;mats_cd03;;;isup qntra.net
862264;1412686759;gribble;qntra.net is up
862265;1412686793;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: where nao
862266;1412686813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0007442 = 11.0886 BTC [-] {2}
862267;1412686849;thickasthieves;middle area
862268;1412686963;BingoBoingo;fix'd
862269;1412687037;ben_vulpes; http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf << PHP databases
862270;1412687038;thickasthieves;cool cool
862271;1412687040;ben_vulpes;mright.
862272;1412687040;thickasthieves;;;estimate
862273;1412687042;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 35557887526.9 based on data since last change | 38815196708.8 based on data for last three days
862274;1412687069;thickasthieves;those new cheapo asicminer prisms will hit the scene soon
862275;1412687082;BingoBoingo;Maybe I need to stop bashing my hand with the OED when I typo and find a correction that doesn't affect the typing hands.
862276;1412687104;thickasthieves;lol
862277;1412687121;thickasthieves;be a real writer and write from Androad with autocorrect
862278;1412687139;thickasthieves;using touch kb of course
862279;1412687204;ben_vulpes;androad
862280;1412687212;BingoBoingo;Huh, the Dodgers are starting Kershaw again tomorrow after he got tagged for 8 runs Friday
862281;1412687243;mats_cd03;i see the scalability roadmap refers to moore's law
862282;1412687308;mats_cd03;as i understand it moore's law doesn't mean shit anymore
862283;1412687363;thickasthieves;wasnt moore's
862284;1412687367;thickasthieves;nielsen's
862285;1412687368;BingoBoingo;Also the part where bandwidth doesn't evenly increase and shit.
862286;1412687382;nubbins`;so i click a gop.com link that was posted in this channel
862287;1412687394;nubbins`;now all week, google is feeding me ads for George H.W. Bush socks
862288;1412687420;thickasthieves;then if you buy some theyll show you the ad even more
862289;1412687424;mats_cd03;>Fortunately technological progress marches on, and Nielsen’s Law of Internet Bandwidth and Moore’s Law make scaling up easier as time passes.
862290;1412687428;nubbins`;no doubt
862291;1412687429;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/SRCgCeh
862292;1412687429;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
862293;1412687438;nubbins`;^ if you were wondering what bush sr socks look like
862294;1412687448;thickasthieves;wow
862295;1412687450;thickasthieves;garish
862296;1412687472;thickasthieves;contribute? to what his whiskey fund?
862297;1412687486;dub;assets is gop sponsored chan
862298;1412687511;BingoBoingo;GOP's bigger socialists than Obummer
862299;1412687598;nubbins`;heh
862300;1412687609;nubbins`;meantime, you ever look at portrait photographs of dick cheney?
862301;1412687632;nubbins`;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg/640px-46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg
862302;1412687645;nubbins`;that's the look of a man who fucked you in the ass
862303;1412687646;mats_cd03;holy shit he's aged
862304;1412687658;nubbins`;and he knows you can't do anything about it
862305;1412687662;mats_cd03;bush, that is
862306;1412687733;BingoBoingo;http://www.mediaite.com/tv/young-ex-isis-hostage-shocks-cnn-reporter-family-they-are-right/
862307;1412687734;assbot;Young Ex-ISIS Hostage Shocks CNN Reporter, Family: ‘They Are Right’ | Mediaite
862308;1412687747;BingoBoingo;!up jb
862309;1412687749;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl
862310;1412688085;dub;are they not right?
862311;1412688257;dub;kid should have beheaded cnn reporter for real shock value
862312;1412688320;BingoBoingo;Who knows?
862313;1412688373;dub;I do
862314;1412688387;BingoBoingo;Cool
862315;1412688922;TomServo;http://wartard.blogspot.com/
862316;1412688922;assbot;War Tard
862317;1412688929;TomServo;Could of interesting posts on ISIS there.
862318;1412688938;TomServo;s/could/couple
862319;1412689000;sgornick;> Beth Moses led the standardization and testing of extravehicular interfaces for the International Space Station while at NASA.
862320;1412689008;sgornick;Now trying to get people to use XBT versus BTC
862321;1412689014;sgornick;https://bitcoinfoundation.org/press-releases/press-release-october-7-2014-bitcoin-foundation-financial-standards-working-group-leads-the-way-for-mainstream-bitcoin-adoption-2/
862322;1412689015;assbot;Press Release October 7, 2014: Bitcoin Foundation Financial Standards Working Group Leads the Way for Mainstream Bitcoin Adoption | The Bitcoin Foundation
862323;1412689067;sgornick;> Bitcoin are B⃦, ฿, and Ƀ. <--- Which do you prefer?
862324;1412689179;nubbins`;btc
862325;1412689203;fluffypony;sgornick: Z
862326;1412689211;nubbins`;ask me again if/when a standard US keyboard includes a B⃦, ฿, or Ƀ symbol
862327;1412689228;fluffypony;tbh, Ƀ is a stupid symbol
862328;1412689239;fluffypony;it looks like a B getting probed analy
862329;1412689266;fluffypony;which, frankly, is kinda rude since the B didn't do anything to deserve an anal probing
862330;1412689277;BingoBoingo;No need for a symbol. BTC is fine. People build friendly 'nugh interfaces with BTC
862331;1412689347;thickasthieves;really i'd rather focus on getting people to quit choosing arbitrary denominations
862332;1412689353;thickasthieves;like millibit and bitcent
862333;1412689362;thickasthieves;just uses satoshis dammit
862334;1412689394;fluffypony;agreed
862335;1412689450;kakobrekla;how is XBT better ?
862336;1412689477;thickasthieves;X > C
862337;1412689492;ben_vulpes;;;later tell asciilifeform http://jacquesmaurel.com/gears
862338;1412689492;assbot;Jacques Maurel - Teacher in Machine Design | GEARS
862339;1412689492;gribble;The operation succeeded.
862340;1412689546;thickasthieves;X is better because it kowtows to the establishment
862341;1412689557;kakobrekla;what?
862342;1412689563;thickasthieves;which is the purpose of the btcf
862343;1412689570;kakobrekla;ah
862344;1412689574;kakobrekla;sry i misread it first time
862345;1412689604;nubbins`;why do i read comments on CBC articles?
862346;1412689635;nubbins`;this is regarding an article about cleaning products not being required to list the specific perfume/scent ingredients: "Printing is cheap these days so no reason not to list all the ingredients in everything"
862347;1412689636;kakobrekla;sgornick arguing that XBT is better for adoption or whatever the fuck is beyond retarded
862348;1412689643;thickasthieves;this is all Circle had to say about my inquiry as to my order being cancelled "We may have delayed your transaction due to our fraud prevention monitoring. I apologize for any inconvenience! We should have this issue resolved in the next few days."
862349;1412689652;kakobrekla;might as well call btc shitcakes.
862350;1412689680;thickasthieves;so is my tx delayed or canceled?
862351;1412689694;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "S&P 500 to post 8th straight quarter of gains" http://bitbet.us/bet/1053/ Odds: 64(Y):36(N) by coin, 63(Y):37(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.8357673 BTC. Current weight: 91,607.
862352;1412689705;nubbins`;thickasthieves you'll never know 8)
862353;1412689728;nubbins`;i did the full gamut w/ my circle account, A+++ would buy satoshis from again
862354;1412689733;thickasthieves;it's canceled but that's much too substantive a word for a rep to use
862355;1412689753;kakobrekla;heh
862356;1412689754;thickasthieves;delayed permanently instead
862357;1412689757;nubbins`;also A+++ would cash out via again
862358;1412689784;thickasthieves;lol at canadians getting through but not usians
862359;1412689814;nubbins`;:D
862360;1412689820;nubbins`;with my visa-enabled debit card!
862361;1412689834;kakobrekla;O_o
862362;1412689837;nubbins`;also worked w/ my straight-up visa, but dem cash advance fees
862363;1412689931;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: the wot begins to bite
862364;1412689946;thickasthieves;this was my message to Circle, to which i got that form response "I shouldn't complain since the price has gone down anyway, but why didn't this order go through? I just want to know how to avoid the problem in the future.
862365;1412689946;thickasthieves;Note that it's ironic that I actually made this purchase by mistake because I thought the "Deposit" button meant , yknow, depositing funds, not exchanging currencies. Your system of dollarifying all numbers is obnoxious. Let people type in bitcoin amounts and understand it as a separate currency. You're just confusing things."
862366;1412689971;kakobrekla;http://laughingsquid.com/beautiful-high-definition-macro-videos-of-chemical-reactions/
862367;1412689972;assbot;Beautiful High Definition Macro Videos of Chemical Reactions
862368;1412690007;nubbins`;yeah
862369;1412690009;danielpbarron;!up brianhoffman
862370;1412690027;nubbins`;MFW i couldn't zero my btc balance upon withdrawal
862371;1412690028;danielpbarron;wth gribble
862372;1412690157;ben_vulpes;!up brianhoffman
862373;1412690163;nubbins`;bbl furnace guy
862374;1412690173;ben_vulpes;;;gettrust assbot danielpbarron
862375;1412690174;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user danielpbarron: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=danielpbarron | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013
862376;1412690187;ben_vulpes;i dun get it either, danielpbarron
862377;1412690190;ben_vulpes;;;rate danielpbarron 1
862378;1412690193;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
862379;1412690198;ben_vulpes;;;eauth ben_vulpes
862380;1412690199;gribble;Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
862381;1412690212;ben_vulpes;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c2fb6d6d44d05e4e920fa7657c657023bca51dd850832f6953cf88c3
862382;1412690213;gribble;You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
862383;1412690216;ben_vulpes;;;rate danielpbarron 1
862384;1412690217;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
862385;1412690351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 850 @ 0.000598 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
862386;1412690534;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12245 @ 0.00074271 = 9.0945 BTC [-]
862387;1412690584;danielpbarron;ben_vulpes, i lost auth
862388;1412690830;danielpbarron;!up brianhoffman
862389;1412690860;danielpbarron;i'm not sure how you, ben_vulpes, were able to !up him without being authed
862390;1412691167;ben_vulpes;stale assbot state?
862391;1412691176;ben_vulpes;kakobrekla: any notion?
862392;1412691233;ben_vulpes;looks like assbot maintains its own notion of authedness
862393;1412691239;ben_vulpes;but i dunno
862394;1412691239;*;ben_vulpes shrugs
862395;1412691275;ben_vulpes;! down brianhoffman
862396;1412691292;ben_vulpes;!down brianhoffman
862397;1412691431;danielpbarron;lol
862398;1412691479;danielpbarron;how can people say irc isn't "real life?" It has a way to let them storm out all pouty
862399;1412691524;kakobrekla;if gribble quits you lose his auth but your place in assbots ACL is not lost
862400;1412691557;kakobrekla;until you quit
862401;1412691588;bounce;gribble is such a quitter
862402;1412692216;thickasthieves;http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:public.articles.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/annivers.jpg
862403;1412694811;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/5w9NqSt
862404;1412694811;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
862405;1412694828;nubbins`;braised a pork shoulder last night
862406;1412695223;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu: mutant 'lorax' << mega-lulz.
862407;1412695224;gribble;The operation succeeded.
862408;1412695937;mats_cd03;i am under the impression SIM cards have DMA
862409;1412695942;mats_cd03;am i wrong?
862410;1412695994;nubbins`;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8108851
862411;1412695994;assbot;The SIM card is a full featured computer. It has memory, a CPU, and your telco ... | Hacker News
862412;1412696029;mats_cd03;thats not helpful
862413;1412696045;nubbins`;nope
862414;1412696069;nubbins`;but there's a modicum of solace in the fact that other people are similarly confused, no?
862415;1412696100;dignork;!up dbolser
862416;1412696108;dbolser;hihi
862417;1412696133;mats_cd03;the interface is serial but that doesnt really tell me anything
862418;1412696140;dbolser;working on a counter to the argument that bitcoin price is important if it falls below a certain threshold where the cost of securing the network is 'too high'
862419;1412696140;bounce;really need to find more ways to recover the secret keys from SIM cards and stick'em in (FOSS-programmed) alternate SIMs that you control
862420;1412696179;dbolser;I figure cost of securing network is proportional to price
862421;1412696182;dbolser;but not sure...
862422;1412696207;dignork;so I invited dbolser here, because we where discussing MV=MC in #bitcoin, but no traction there.
862423;1412696222;bounce;how hard is it to build a (simple, "feature") phone with fully-controlled firmware including the wireless interface side?
862424;1412696248;thickasthieves;dbolser while price and mining have a relationship, it is not in sync necessarily
862425;1412696262;mats_cd03;bounce: not hard. google: osmocombb
862426;1412696284;mats_cd03;http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/
862427;1412696285;assbot;OsmocomBB
862428;1412696285;thickasthieves;itd be impossible to know the plans and behavior of major mining outfits and their coins and costs
862429;1412696348;thickasthieves;also keep in mind that mining costs as reported by reddit etc, are just a snapshot of what can be seen, there have been private operations implementing their own chips for a while now
862430;1412696390;dbolser;thickasthieves: I don't argue that the two are related in a complex way, but I wonder if there is a lower bound on price whereby mining 'colapses'
862431;1412696398;nubbins`;yeah, the only chips you hear about are the ones where the makers wanted to vacuum up that sweet sweet "investor" money
862432;1412696406;dbolser;or is a low price not worth attacking?
862433;1412696413;thickasthieves;bitcoin doesnt care
862434;1412696417;thickasthieves;it invites all attacks
862435;1412696426;thickasthieves;but you only get one chance
862436;1412696432;dbolser;that's beside the point
862437;1412696456;dbolser;if price goes to 1 cent per 10 BTC (lets say), is there any 'value' in mining?
862438;1412696466;thickasthieves;the problem i have with the point is it acts like price is a driver of anything but speculation
862439;1412696477;dbolser;ing?
862440;1412696489;thickasthieves;mining is more likely to affect price than the reverse imo
862441;1412696500;mats_cd03;the infinite money machine distorts proper analysis of these things
862442;1412696511;bounce;so easiest there would be to put a good push behind supporting more phones (like some nokia models from back when they were respectable)
862443;1412696542;thickasthieves;price isnt a force, it is a measurement
862444;1412696546;thickasthieves;i think...
862445;1412696871;dbolser;so, hypothetically, does bitcoin ever die?
862446;1412696889;dbolser;is there a set of functions it performs as cost enters certain ranges?
862447;1412696893;ben_vulpes;wrong channel, dbolser
862448;1412696902;ben_vulpes;:P
862449;1412696913;ben_vulpes;can you clarify the functions question?
862450;1412696947;dbolser;ben_vulpes: yeah, I'm vague there too... like if the price stays really low, it's still a tool for international trade
862451;1412696958;dbolser;if price gets higher, is it a store of value?
862452;1412696980;dbolser;I was thinking something along those lines
862453;1412696997;dbolser;seems the higher the price, the bigger the buzz, the wider the application
862454;1412697008;ben_vulpes;it's always a store of value, and it's always a method of transacting value.
862455;1412697010;dbolser;perhaps I need to study alt-coin failure modes
862456;1412697016;dbolser;yeah
862457;1412697056;ben_vulpes;the interesting thing is what happens to modern governments that run on printing money.
862458;1412697250;dignork;dbolser: re alt-coins << there may be a lot of failure modes, but here is a good general explanation: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-problem-with-altcoins/
862459;1412697251;assbot;The Problem with Altcoins | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
862460;1412697320;thickasthieves;the function is that bitcoin is designed to be antifragile, so each of it's properties work to correct and balance the others
862461;1412697346;thickasthieves;re remittance, that is one aspect where price (more specifically, market cap) matters
862462;1412697376;ben_vulpes;thickasthieves: how does market cap affect remittance?
862463;1412697379;thickasthieves;bitcoin is backed by bagholders, so if you wanna be able to transact AND cash out large amounts, you need large price
862464;1412697391;ben_vulpes;hm
862465;1412697458;thickasthieves;this is also why you get guys talking about "closing the loop"
862466;1412697492;thickasthieves;which is not totally possible, but probably the natural point bitcoin trends towards
862467;1412697550;thickasthieves;closing the loop is probably an anti-goal because changing the value of bitcoin dramatically would also change the costs of goods dramatically
862468;1412697582;thickasthieves;i'm just thinking out loud here, waiting for someont to bring me to earth
862469;1412697610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11813156 BTC to 15`414 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
862470;1412697671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.10594672 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 444 satoshi per share
862471;1412697725;thickasthieves;generally i subscribe to the belief that all extremes and ideals are only achievable for a moment at best, and that a robust/sustainable approach to theory and design is better
862472;1412697768;nubbins`;i found a piece of paper yesterday that said "1:30pm tuesday oct 7" and i can't remember if i'm supposed to be meeting someone here or not
862473;1412697819;mats_cd03;lol
862474;1412697824;nubbins`;thickasthieves casascius coins are essentially a closed loop, albeit not a very good example
862475;1412697870;thickasthieves;i'm not sure we mean the same thing
862476;1412697876;dignork;thickasthieves: in case of wide usage of btc, remittance as business will disappear
862477;1412697890;thickasthieves;by closed loop i mean getting people to transact in bitcoin and not convert to fiat
862478;1412697910;thickasthieves;vendors>business>consumer>employer>
862479;1412697938;thickasthieves;dignork i assume you mean be taken over by crypto, not disappear
862480;1412697975;nubbins`;oh sure, yeah
862481;1412697979;nubbins`;totally different things
862482;1412697984;los_pantalones;thickasthieves why do ppl think you should exchange a provably finite asset for something like a ham sandwich
862483;1412697993;thickasthieves;Well i think businesses will still provide the service
862484;1412697995;dignork;thickasthieves: if it's trivial to find buyer here, and seller there, it won't be remittance anymore, just exchage fees on both sides of trade
862485;1412697999;los_pantalones;ever seen someone exchange .00001% of their home for a piece of pie ?
862486;1412698008;thickasthieves;people still wanna 'bank' of asome sort
862487;1412698010;thickasthieves;that wont go away
862488;1412698055;thickasthieves;dignork thats what remittance is, paying a fee to transport money via a 3rd party
862489;1412698072;thickasthieves;i'm saying the 3rd party will continue to exist
862490;1412698079;thickasthieves;it will just look different
862491;1412698092;thickasthieves;remit companies might also be more general escrow agencies
862492;1412698109;thickasthieves;maybe even contract facilitators/arbiters
862493;1412698117;thickasthieves;maybe get into insurance
862494;1412698119;thickasthieves;etc
862495;1412698172;thickasthieves;just because bitcoin lets people do things for themselves doesnt mean that all of sudden people will start doing things for themselves
862496;1412698244;PeterL;http://blog.btcscoop.com/use-code-xbt-not-btc-for-bitcoins/ and yes I see the irony of posting this on a website starting with btc
862497;1412698245;assbot;Use code XBT, not BTC for bitcoins |
862498;1412698415;thickasthieves;no.
862499;1412698438;thickasthieves;;;8ball should we switch to XBT?
862500;1412698439;gribble;The answer is certainly yes.
862501;1412698445;thickasthieves;you muthfukah!
862502;1412698461;thickasthieves;first time gribble failed me
862503;1412698487;dignork;thickasthieves: in "send money home" scenario, no arbitrage/insurance is required, unless we are talking about hedging volatility risk. Any btc buyer or seller migh assume himself in "remittance business", which means unrestricted lower bound for margin. that's why i think remittance as a business will disappear. It will just turn into a corner case of btc<->whatever trade.
862504;1412698556;PeterL;you don't need remittances anymore, just a local trader at each end to convert to/from local currency
862505;1412698735;PeterL;didn't MP once refer to local currency as "food vouchers"?
862506;1412698940;PeterL;maybe that is why USgov wants the price low, so it is harder to move large quantities of money outside their system without permission?
862507;1412698957;dignork;PeterL | you don't need remittances anymore << in theory you are right, but for now you have whopping 5 buyers listed on localbitcoins in Mexico. Seems we are not there yet.
862508;1412698989;PeterL;yeah, not yet, but certainly moving that direction
862509;1412699265;kakobrekla;no i think we should call it YBT
862510;1412699274;thickasthieves;those individuals are still remittance businesses
862511;1412699277;kakobrekla;Y Y? Y not?
862512;1412699294;thickasthieves;i think we should rename all currencies to add C
862513;1412699301;thickasthieves;dollarcoin
862514;1412699303;kakobrekla;CYBT then
862515;1412699306;thickasthieves;poundcoin
862516;1412699311;thickasthieves;USDC
862517;1412699318;thickasthieves;EURC
862518;1412699326;thickasthieves;it's teh rule!
862519;1412699354;thickasthieves;wtf is the X bs
862520;1412699357;PeterL;thickasthieves: yes, but it can be a different individual at each end of the transfer, unlike now where you have the same company at both ends
862521;1412699370;thickasthieves;you dont though
862522;1412699377;PeterL;no?
862523;1412699379;thickasthieves;the abstracted "company" is the local bank
862524;1412699388;thickasthieves;two different ones on each end
862525;1412699452;chetty;I wouldnt go too much by localbitcoins listings, plenty of places trading in btc not listed
862526;1412699840;bounce;what, you don't know? currency codes use the iso3166 two letter country code plus one letter for the currency. so BTC is really "bhutan coin". exceptions are the X codes, XAU, XPT, XAG and so on.
862527;1412699901;kakobrekla;i guess iso3166 can now ask bitcoin if it can reform
862528;1412700169;thickasthieves;btc is just more likeable, sry
862529;1412700186;thickasthieves;this decision is best made with emotion
862530;1412700198;kakobrekla;hehe
862531;1412700213;bounce;suriname yen?
862532;1412700456;nubbins`;;;bc,xau
862533;1412700458;gribble;1 XAU = 1210.700000000000 USD = 3.6744665999 BTC
862534;1412700492;nubbins`;ouch
862535;1412700506;nubbins`;3.67/oz
862536;1412700512;rithm;double ouch
862537;1412700534;rithm;seems like highway robbery for shiny metal
862538;1412700555;nubbins`;<+nubbins`> i found a piece of paper yesterday that said "1:30pm tuesday oct 7" and i can't remember if i'm supposed to be meeting someone here or not
862539;1412700563;nubbins`;turns out i did indeed have a meeting scheduled for here
862540;1412700594;nubbins`;also turns out i'm gonna be printing the writers' alliance quarterly journal
862541;1412701148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8405 @ 0.00074265 = 6.242 BTC [-]
862542;1412701486;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform >D
862543;1412701572;nubbins`;mp dat poster link you sent a while back
862544;1412701575;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00074535 = 12.0747 BTC [+]
862545;1412701581;nubbins`;websites like that make me sad
862546;1412701596;*;mircea_popescu doesn't recall
862547;1412701610;nubbins`; http://posters.lardbucket.org/ is this the sorriest thing you ever saw or what
862548;1412701612;assbot;posters.lardbucket.org
862549;1412701621;nubbins`;boils some poor heel's life down to this shitty little nugget of wasted effort
862550;1412701630;mircea_popescu;oh oh
862551;1412701645;nubbins`;and the tagline
862552;1412701648;mircea_popescu;ikr?
862553;1412701649;nubbins`;"please don't take my stuff"
862554;1412701655;nubbins`;IF ONLY WE WANTED TO
862555;1412701664;mircea_popescu;i'm like... dude i used to make that stuff, in basic, on a z80
862556;1412701669;nubbins`;right?
862557;1412701679;nubbins`;could make 60 of these a second
862558;1412701680;nubbins`;;p
862559;1412701709;mircea_popescu;the blessings of a school system with no grades.
862560;1412701709;nubbins`;but wait dude, you don't understand, he also did that one of the mandelbrot set
862561;1412701728;mircea_popescu;people get to be 30 and still have no idea they suck
862562;1412701729;nubbins`;it's recursively shitty
862563;1412701772;mircea_popescu;i'm sorry, i mean, still have no idea that they wolfgoethe
862564;1412701788;nubbins`;that they...?
862565;1412701793;mircea_popescu;it's in the logs
862566;1412701822;nubbins`;!s *goethe
862567;1412701823;assbot;Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%2Agoethe
862568;1412701829;nubbins`;eat shit assbot
862569;1412701854;nubbins`;oh ahahaha
862570;1412701855;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2014#861983
862571;1412701857;assbot;Logged on 07-10-2014 04:02:22; WolfGoethe: I code web mostly. many platforms. had a few startups. did the napster of Ringtones in 2000. and a few social networking sites. and now working on some bitcoin stuff.
862572;1412701860;*;nubbins` reads no further
862573;1412701874;mircea_popescu;it was rather amusing
862574;1412701885;ben_vulpes;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5X1LcGa9I
862575;1412701885;assbot;Radioactive emission of Uranium visible to naked eye in a cloud chamber! - YouTube
862576;1412701894;mircea_popescu;cherenkov ?
862577;1412701925;bounce;it's blue. snazzy tune though. didn't think it had it in it.
862578;1412701930;nubbins`;luckily this video has an unskippable ad at the start
862579;1412701962;bounce;didn't get one of those, but I have a lot of ad-y things blocked here.
862580;1412701966;nubbins`;ben_vulpes why is this a 35s video instead of a 3s gif?
862581;1412701982;nubbins`;why is it published by "funny videos"?
862582;1412701989;nubbins`;i'm sorry, i know you don't have answers
862583;1412701991;mircea_popescu;the ad ?
862584;1412701997;nubbins`;nah the actual video
862585;1412702000;nubbins`;it's looping
862586;1412702006;mircea_popescu;yes, the actual video. because the ad.
862587;1412702025;nubbins`;o o o
862588;1412702028;nubbins`;riiight
862589;1412702052;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmQoW4sJmc
862590;1412702053;assbot;'I've made a terrible mistake' - YouTube
862591;1412702058;nubbins`;from same channel ;/
862592;1412702093;mircea_popescu;!up sgornick_
862593;1412702099;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot sgornick_
862594;1412702100;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick_ | Rated since: never
862595;1412702105;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot sgornick_
862596;1412702105;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick_ | Rated since: never
862597;1412702108;dignork;cherenkov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHkpUSaVwU
862598;1412702108;assbot;Nuclear Reactor start up - YouTube
862599;1412702108;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot sgornick
862600;1412702109;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick | Rated since: Thu Dec 2 21:13:08 2010
862601;1412702112;bounce;ah, the link between the videos is the tune
862602;1412702121;mircea_popescu;sgornick_ you know you can self up here right ?
862603;1412702124;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00074535 = 3.5777 BTC [+]
862604;1412702368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 200 @ 0.12600511 = 25.201 BTC [-] {27}
862605;1412702429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.1016202 = 9.6539 BTC [-] {10}
862606;1412702780;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bingoboingo cazalla heh check out the furry of attention your little project is getting from our enemies. methinks we;ve struck oil here.
862607;1412702780;gribble;The operation succeeded.
862608;1412702825;mircea_popescu;i should probably say "the enemies of a free world, liberty, happiness and generally humanity", but it's kinda lengthy to give these people all their proper titles and indignities.
862609;1412703044;nubbins`;let them be henceforth known as The Enemies
862610;1412703105;mircea_popescu;ahhh that govt response to the horowitz declaration
862611;1412703113;nubbins`;lel http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10/07/1612226/complain-about-comcast-get-fired-from-your-job
862612;1412703114;assbot;Complain About Comcast, Get Fired From Your Job - Slashdot
862613;1412703115;mircea_popescu;"we made it a secret and prosecute anyone disclosing how we infringe rights
862614;1412703128;mircea_popescu;the law requires someone asking for his rights to be protected to say how his rights were infringed
862615;1412703135;mircea_popescu;therefore this motion should be dismissed"
862616;1412703147;mircea_popescu;how do these people even get out of bed in the morning ?
862617;1412703156;nubbins`;i think they black out their mirrors
862618;1412703159;mircea_popescu;compartimentalisation only goes so far.
862619;1412703159;nubbins`;it helps
862620;1412703222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00074535 = 6.41 BTC [+]
862621;1412703248;mircea_popescu;and bingo you're doing a bangass job over there! everyone else links the pdf, you put in the text. brownie points.
862622;1412703256;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller listen, you actually shipping those cookies ?
862623;1412703398;nubbins`;COOKIE CHIEF
862624;1412703521;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform incidentally, i am curious how many of the references and injokes are actually observable from outside the work
862625;1412703532;mircea_popescu;and how many random bits are overinterpreted in the quest for the former
862626;1412703541;artifexd;qntra.net << Awesome DNS
862627;1412703605;assbot;startup_isninja +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
862628;1412703630;fluffypony;Have we discussed David Seaman's proclamation of Bitcoin's demise? I see pete_dushenski spotted it
862629;1412703665;mircea_popescu;we have not, because we did last time and well, it just seems to encourage this sort of thing
862630;1412703666;nubbins`;!up startup_isninja
862631;1412703671;mircea_popescu;anything substantial in there ?
862632;1412703676;nubbins`;if you're ninjashogun, expect the reverse in a moment
862633;1412703677;mircea_popescu;!down startup_isninja
862634;1412703679;fluffypony;Nah
862635;1412703680;nubbins`;LEL
862636;1412703691;mircea_popescu;that's ok, i've read enough nonsense today
862637;1412703695;fluffypony;He basically went on a rant
862638;1412703706;mircea_popescu;well good for him, and let his mother know
862639;1412703708;fluffypony;About how Bitcoin is dead because the price went so low
862640;1412703709;mircea_popescu;who the fuck is the guy even ?
862641;1412703726;fluffypony;And if it wast dead the price wouldn't go that low
862642;1412703734;fluffypony;Wasn't
862643;1412703740;mircea_popescu;yeah, totally. im sure the price for his penis is over 300 bux.
862644;1412703746;fluffypony;He's a turd, but a hilarious one
862645;1412703754;fluffypony;Plus his surname is seaman
862646;1412703758;fluffypony;So theres that
862647;1412703776;mircea_popescu;i wonder why all the people with shitty names don't get together and make their own country.
862648;1412703781;mircea_popescu;ben dover's gulch
862649;1412703785;fluffypony;Lol
862650;1412703791;mircea_popescu;o, right! because it's a stupid idea! well... nevermind then.
862651;1412703816;nubbins`;i know a woman with the last name Smellie, true story
862652;1412703826;bounce;nice and short story
862653;1412703831;mircea_popescu;i had a dentist in ro, her last name was moustache
862654;1412703837;nubbins`;the best stories are succinct, yet moving, and oddly telling
862655;1412703851;mircea_popescu;and with perky tits.
862656;1412703898;mircea_popescu;nubbins` by the way, know the story of old john cocksucker and his namechange ?
862657;1412703926;nubbins`;nope. married an italian woman named Bella Fellatoria?
862658;1412703946;mircea_popescu;lol. nah. he was this guy about fifty, not particularly bight, in fact closer to high functioning retardation
862659;1412703963;mircea_popescu;that minded his own business, was kinda friendly, and so everyone he knew suggested he do one thing for his future
862660;1412703965;mircea_popescu;and change that name
862661;1412703969;nubbins`;sure, yeah
862662;1412703971;mircea_popescu;so eventually, after much reflection, he did
862663;1412703974;mircea_popescu;to... george.
862664;1412703977;nubbins`;HEH
862665;1412704004;nubbins`;who else, let me see...
862666;1412704016;nubbins`;there's a spin instructor at the gym named dick barter
862667;1412704022;nubbins`;i've taken to calling him cock swap
862668;1412704040;mircea_popescu;ahahaha
862669;1412704042;nubbins`;(not to his face, he could likely kick me to death)
862670;1412704070;nubbins`;there was a dope dealer named richard ball
862671;1412704083;nubbins`;overheard one day: "man, anybody ever call you dick ball?"
862672;1412704088;nubbins`;stonefaced reply: "no."
862673;1412704105;nubbins`;awkward silence, question guy leaves w/o another word
862674;1412704133;mircea_popescu;lol
862675;1412704214;mircea_popescu;"During the last eighteen months I have not had the good fortune to attend my own funeral, but with that exception I have buried pretty nearly everything I lived for." << wow check out this guy.
862676;1412704218;mircea_popescu;now that's quality depression.
862677;1412704277;thestringpuller;nubbins`: the poster still hasn't come :(
862678;1412704277;nubbins`;A++++ would use to boost own feelings again
862679;1412704286;nubbins`;thestringpuller :/ let me find a tracking #
862680;1412704294;nubbins`;did i post this yesterday? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/philip-pynn-averill-baker-shared-passionate-kiss-before-arrest-1.2789028
862681;1412704295;assbot;Philip Pynn, Averill Baker shared 'passionate kiss' before arrest - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
862682;1412704301;thestringpuller;thanks nubbins`
862683;1412704307;nubbins`;this is maybe the most prominent defence lawyer in the province
862684;1412704328;mircea_popescu;he got arrested ?!
862685;1412704358;nubbins`;lawyer (she) did not get arrested
862686;1412704380;nubbins`;her kissy-mate, who had murdered a guy 24h prior, got arrested
862687;1412704385;mircea_popescu;see, this is why the motherfucking wasps were so wrong.
862688;1412704394;mircea_popescu;nothing better than women with careers.
862689;1412704414;mircea_popescu;nicholson famously makes this point on stand once.
862690;1412704441;nubbins`;thestringpuller: Your item was undeliverable as addressed at 2:51 pm on September 20, 2014 in ATLANTA, GA 30309. It is being returned if appropriate information is available.
862691;1412704462;thestringpuller;damn it
862692;1412704493;thestringpuller;nubbins` can you pm me the address that was given to you by the artist?
862693;1412704561;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller i take that as a no ?
862694;1412704611;nubbins`;ooooooooo fuck me in the ass, i wrote the P.O. Box number down wrong
862695;1412704627;thestringpuller;No problem.
862696;1412704633;thestringpuller;Just lemme know how we resolve this.
862697;1412704634;nubbins`;let me find the tx, PM me a btc address
862698;1412704644;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: like how can a foreign website be illegal? <<< you got an oxymoron problem going there son ?
862699;1412704648;nubbins`;i'll refund you, that package will likely be destroyed.
862700;1412704651;nubbins`;:/
862701;1412704664;mircea_popescu;nubbins` dyslexia strikes a gain ?
862702;1412704668;thestringpuller;what about the shirts?
862703;1412704675;thestringpuller;I still want a poster :(
862704;1412704678;nubbins`;mircea_popescu i almost made the same mistake on the shirts
862705;1412704690;nubbins`;dysnumeria i guess or w/e it's called
862706;1412704691;guruvan;never doubt the wisdom of the gribble
862707;1412704701;nubbins`;thestringpuller shirts will be arriving at proper location
862708;1412704708;mircea_popescu;guruvan what did it do this time ?
862709;1412704718;*;guruvan scrolls back down to the present
862710;1412704730;thestringpuller;guruvan...that name looks familiar
862711;1412704732;nubbins`;thestringpuller try calling USPS and give them tracking # LM000212190CA
862712;1412704732;guruvan;failed thickasthieves - told him to buy XBT
862713;1412704734;thestringpuller;do you comment on trilema?
862714;1412704744;nubbins`;there's an off-chance it'll still be in a sort facility somewhere.
862715;1412704748;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: do ebay servers get hacked when they discover coupon counterfeiters? << no, because ebay servers are already hacked by design, because they use the "proper" software as indicated.
862716;1412704764;guruvan;thestringpuller: no - but I've been around here a long while - just not much in here for a while
862717;1412704830;mircea_popescu;bounce: huh, sneaky circular argument there. usg says hoster Ts&Cs allowed for monitoring to no privacy for you! -- but how'd they know what server to monitor, hm? tor ought to've made it unfindable. << they "just knew" heh.
862718;1412704857;mircea_popescu;but really, this silkroad thing is becoming a major liability for the usg, after having actually crossed the line from gain to liability sometime in spring.
862719;1412704858;nubbins`;the FBI "just knew" in the sense that an NSA agent walked into their office and said "hey, check out this URL!"
862720;1412704883;mircea_popescu;making it n-0, retroactively. THEY HAVE YET TO ACTUALLY SCORE ONCE!
862721;1412704919;mircea_popescu;and that n is pretty fuckingly scary high, what with the heartbleed headshot and all the other outlays generously handed out by la serenissima.
862722;1412704968;bounce;well, losing only counts if the judge says it's a loss. if they don't, it's a win.
862723;1412704998;mircea_popescu;not at all.
862724;1412705012;mircea_popescu;the embarassment of havcing to answer to it makes it a loss already.
862725;1412705019;mircea_popescu;fascist government only works if unquestioned.
862726;1412705028;mircea_popescu;if questioned, no matter what the sops say, it's still a loss.
862727;1412705040;mircea_popescu;assbot: 7th Heaven Dad Stephen Collins Taped Confessing to Child Sex Abuse <<< holy shit omfg no wai!!1
862728;1412705050;mircea_popescu;molested 17 yo jessica biel ?! WHERE IS THAT TAPE!
862729;1412705088;bounce;morally, but the usg doesn't care about that; it figures it's too big to fail
862730;1412705108;mircea_popescu;yes, but practically the delusions of the players aren't relevant.
862731;1412705124;mircea_popescu;the game is still played by points.
862732;1412705182;mircea_popescu;and the points still go n-0.
862733;1412705232;bounce;but who cares if the bill only comes due well after your pension?
862734;1412705252;thestringpuller;;;later tell hanbot good work on the "new" lorax lol
862735;1412705252;gribble;The operation succeeded.
862736;1412705338;mircea_popescu;bounce depending on one's age, i wouldn't put much stock in that. i suppose septuagenarians have good cause to be disinterested on these grounds.
862737;1412705352;mircea_popescu;but anyone else... who cares if the bill comes due just as you're due for pension payments? hm ?
862738;1412705392;bounce;also depends on your perception. this is perhaps the more cogent point. who's going to be right? well... if we're lucky and they're not a lot of the cogs in the usg are going to feel mightily blindsided.
862739;1412705396;mircea_popescu;every current usg employee is in direct danger of starvation, once they reach old age. better make some good friends and suck up to the fambly, because the usg won't be here to pick up their tabs.
862740;1412705407;mircea_popescu;bounce not so.
862741;1412705418;mircea_popescu;it takes precious little luck for the woodchpper to grind a whole forrest.
862742;1412705425;mircea_popescu;all it takes is a little time and a coupla determined people.
862743;1412705429;mircea_popescu;the tools are present.
862744;1412705434;Azelphur;don't suppose anyone here knows the solution to http://pastebin.com/USqRfYca ?
862745;1412705434;assbot;$ git commit -S gpg: skipped "Alfie "Azelphur" Day ": sec - Pastebin.com
862746;1412705460;mircea_popescu;Azelphur you missing the secret key ?
862747;1412705501;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: that's the part that makes no sense, I shouldn't be, it's the same key I've always used on this machine since the dawn of time, I only have one key, gpg --list-secret-keys shows one key
862748;1412705505;Azelphur;It shouldn't be*
862749;1412705513;bounce;perhaps depends on a gpg agent that isn't running or perhaps doesn't have the key loaded
862750;1412705530;Azelphur;bounce: that's possible, the key does require a passphrase
862751;1412705531;mircea_popescu;you see why this is not the sort of thing another could help with Azelphur. check the secret keyring ? maybe is there a pinentry involved that fails silently ?
862752;1412705540;nubbins`;try clearsigning something
862753;1412705558;kakobrekla;just show us your private key
862754;1412705569;mircea_popescu;nobody really knows the intricate details of your own "dawn of time" history but you
862755;1412705588;Azelphur;nubbins`: echo "Hello world" | gpg --clearsign works fine
862756;1412705603;nubbins`;passwd prompt?
862757;1412705608;Azelphur;nubbins`: nope
862758;1412705612;*;nubbins` nods
862759;1412705634;bounce;well then. time to dig into git for a bit.
862760;1412705671;punkman;Azelphur: try this: git config --global user.signingkey FFFFFFFF
862761;1412705680;guruvan;or perhaps the .git/config doesn't
862762;1412705696;guruvan;have the right key in there?
862763;1412705704;Azelphur;punkman: thanks, that solved it
862764;1412705705;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes: http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf << PHP databases << whether they are or they aren't, that's what the us govt will claim there was. because it's a noncontroversial tech, much like hollywood still shows diskettes in movies to this day.
862765;1412705723;mircea_popescu;for a bunch of experts that use excel, the controlling factor is to make sure the story's believable.
862766;1412705724;nubbins`;they do?
862767;1412705751;mircea_popescu;nubbins` on occasion
862768;1412705765;nubbins`;interesting, "the net" was the last movie i recall seeing a 3.5"
862769;1412705789;nubbins`;;;google the net sandra bullock
862770;1412705789;gribble;The Net (1995) - IMDb: ; The Net (1995 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amazon.com: The Net: Sandra Bullock, Jeremy Northam, Dennis ...:
862771;1412705812;nubbins`;19 years, wow
862772;1412705855;mircea_popescu;"Snoops" The Stolen Diskette (TV Episode 2000)
862773;1412705899;mircea_popescu;apparently Live Free or Die Hard (2007) was one of the first films to use the sticks.
862774;1412705948;mircea_popescu;S1m0ne (2002), has a floppy in there.
862775;1412705950;mike_c;ooh, SR was using "php databases"
862776;1412705959;mircea_popescu;and omfg that was an atrociously bad film jesus
862777;1412705968;mike_c;no wonder it sucked
862778;1412706009;mircea_popescu;it did ? (i have nfi)
862779;1412706012;mike_c;"Silk Road’s reliance on PHP databases was readily observable from the website itself during the time of its operation"
862780;1412706021;mike_c;this is gov't derping from the filing.
862781;1412706031;mike_c;hopefully such a thing doesn't actually exist.
862782;1412706037;mike_c;they are just talking about phpmyadmin.
862783;1412706057;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: be a real writer and write from Androad with autocorrect << so much win
862784;1412706101;mircea_popescu;mike_c i wouldn't really take anything the govt says at face value. the derps in that courtroom painfully remind of http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/
862785;1412706102;assbot;Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
862786;1412706180;mike_c;oh no, to be clear I am laughing at them.
862787;1412706192;thickasthieves;the trading chat is all "we'll have one more new low, then moon"
862788;1412706211;mircea_popescu;o they caught on have they.
862789;1412706223;thickasthieves;nope
862790;1412706228;mircea_popescu;i guess I should make a little infographic while at it.
862791;1412706243;thickasthieves;they missed the low, and now wan to will it into being
862792;1412706280;thickasthieves;at least that's what the good old rooibos tells me
862793;1412706297;mircea_popescu;oh oh. lol. shoulda read moar trilema.
862794;1412706303;mircea_popescu;which chan is this ?
862795;1412706315;thickasthieves;not a chan sadly, tradingview.com
862796;1412706322;thickasthieves;the least trollboxy one ive found
862797;1412706347;thickasthieves;still took a lot of ignores to be decent tho
862798;1412706359;fluffypony;mmmm, rooibos iced tea with vanilla vodka
862799;1412706368;bounce;there is only one original trollbox
862800;1412706369;fluffypony;Such nomos7
862801;1412706382;fluffypony;FFs, stupid autocorrect
862802;1412706453;thickasthieves;it's a great website though
862803;1412706516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00074535 = 11.4039 BTC [+]
862804;1412706517;thickasthieves;i should use though less tho
862805;1412706585;thestringpuller;;;ticker
862806;1412706586;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.33, Best ask: 331.53, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 331.55, 24 hour volume: 24923.24390781, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 336.99, 24 hour vwap: 327.245791236
862807;1412706640;thestringpuller;haven't seen fluffypony in awhile
862808;1412707028;thickasthieves;someone dumped AM1 i see
862809;1412707041;thickasthieves;bad news?
862810;1412707063;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: wow you tore gavin a new one on qntra.
862811;1412707081;mircea_popescu;nobody forces derps to derp.
862812;1412707286;thestringpuller;He didn't even respond...caught with his pants down to see that his balls are missing?
862813;1412707373;thickasthieves;why would he respond?
862814;1412707380;thickasthieves;he already chose his team
862815;1412707420;thestringpuller;Team USG!
862816;1412707433;thestringpuller;USA USA USA!
862817;1412707436;thestringpuller;so bad. :(
862818;1412707537;nubbins`;!t h am1
862819;1412707538;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.10010000 / 0.11865812 / 0.14600000 (303 shares, 35.95341020 BTC), 7D: 0.10000001 / 0.13318606 / 0.19210002 (1622 shares, 216.02778869 BTC), 30D: 0.10000001 / 0.15787022 / 0.26900000 (5077 shares, 801.50712295 BTC)
862820;1412707561;thickasthieves;bloomberg tv talking about blockchain $30m and btc
862821;1412707587;thickasthieves;theyll be interviewed too
862822;1412707748;nubbins`;blockchain.info is a handy enough read-only wallet that i haven't bothered trying any others
862823;1412707818;thickasthieves;i used it for a bit but stopped
862824;1412707959;mircea_popescu;they;re one of the lenders, but! i gotta say they parlayed very little into a whole lot. they don't actually have enough btc on hand to justify a 30mn grant.
862825;1412707995;thickasthieves;i dont understand how you put $30m into a wallet company and take $30m+ back out
862826;1412708009;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-how-much-i-rule-today/ << thickasthieves you can tell the tradechats that one :D
862827;1412708010;assbot;This is how much I rule (today) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
862828;1412708022;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves which is why it's called a grant.
862829;1412708208;thickasthieves;lol they arent ready
862830;1412708238;nubbins`;oh fuck, wow
862831;1412708255;nubbins`;earlier today, headline on cbc news website was "freight train operators report falling asleep on job"
862832;1412708261;mircea_popescu;anyway. baring some sort of miracle, that's that.
862833;1412708266;mircea_popescu;and miracles are in short supply these days.
862834;1412708275;nubbins`;all about being overworked, no sleep, etc
862835;1412708282;mircea_popescu;kinda longstanding problem thios
862836;1412708286;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 114 @ 0.01059769 = 1.2081 BTC [+] {3}
862837;1412708298;nubbins`;that's no longer the main headline because we now have BREAKING: Major train derailment near Wadena, Sask.
862838;1412708340;thickasthieves;ouch
862839;1412708353;mircea_popescu;ouch
862840;1412708678;bounce;well, that's one way to spin control
862841;1412708723;mircea_popescu;bounce how do you mean ?
862842;1412708763;bounce;eh n'mind.
862843;1412708843;mircea_popescu;dub: assets is gop sponsored chan << yeah, but the great old party in question is the guelph.
862844;1412708865;bounce;oh, anhydrous ammonia, "highly toxic" says cnbs. to aquatic animals, says wikipedia.
862845;1412708875;thestringpuller;what was that article about giving engineers too much money on trilema?
862846;1412708881;bounce;s/cnbs/cbc/
862847;1412708887;thestringpuller;;;google site:trilema.com too much money engineer
862848;1412708887;gribble;The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; ArsDigita: From Start-Up to Bust-Up - Trilema: ; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...:
862849;1412708892;mircea_popescu;there you go.
862850;1412709046;thestringpuller;I wonder if the enemy is lurking on Trilema.
862851;1412709154;thickasthieves;well after the SEC interaction he probly got on some lists ;)
862852;1412709158;fluffypony;thestringpuller: I'm around
862853;1412709159;chetty;they would be fools not to
862854;1412709162;fluffypony;just been busy
862855;1412709268;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-how-much-i-rule-today/
862856;1412709394;rithm;roflcopter
862857;1412709421;thestringpuller;random: is davout still on honeymoon leave?
862858;1412709439;mircea_popescu;wasnt he here earlier ?
862859;1412709504;thickasthieves;yeah he said hi and that the honeymoon is over
862860;1412709548;mircea_popescu;assbot: Press Release October 7, 2014: Bitcoin Foundation Financial Standards Working Group Leads the Way for Mainstream Bitcoin Adoption | The Bitcoin Foundation << they really should stop competing with the onion.
862861;1412709586;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: it looks like a B getting probed analy <<< would you prefer an octopus ?
862862;1412709592;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yes
862863;1412709601;mircea_popescu;come to thinkj about it me too.
862864;1412709606;fluffypony;the symbol for Hydra from the Marvel comics would be awesome
862865;1412709633;mircea_popescu;http://www.whitezine.com/en/motion/octopus-video.html
862866;1412709634;assbot;Octopus Video | Whitezine | Design Graphic & Photography Inspirations
862867;1412709738;mircea_popescu;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html << better yet lol
862868;1412709739;assbot;Woman's mouth 'falls pregnant' to twelve squid after biting into sea creature, scientists claim | Daily Mail Online
862869;1412709815;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: No need for a symbol. BTC is fine. People build friendly 'nugh interfaces with BTC << yeahy but then how would vessenes' scam ring issue "press releases" about things and stuff ?
862870;1412709842;thickasthieves;i was loading some stuff into the fridge earlier and felt like a web or string my neck, so i grabbed and flicked to floor. it was a huge red wasp.
862871;1412709856;mircea_popescu;those can be dangerous
862872;1412709890;thickasthieves;just glad it didnt get me
862873;1412709897;nubbins`;wasps are dickheads
862874;1412709920;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: how is XBT better ? << it's great in that it gives btc the occasion to show the entire iso process the door.
862875;1412709932;nubbins`;bees are bros though
862876;1412709980;thickasthieves;'I was in a loving, healthy, great relationship for four years,' she told the magazine. 'It was long distance, and either your boyfriend is going to look at porn or he’s going to look at you.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2783719/Jennifer-Lawrence-speaks-time-nude-photo-leak-Vanity-Fair.html
862877;1412709980;assbot;Jennifer Lawrence speaks out for the first time about nude photo leak to Vanity Fair | Daily Mail Online
862878;1412709993;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00074535 = 0.8944 BTC [+]
862879;1412710001;mircea_popescu;well... porn of you, at any rate.
862880;1412710016;mircea_popescu;these self-righteous cunts. it's porn when other women do it, amirite ?
862881;1412710049;mircea_popescu;shut up and embrace it. when we want porn, you do porn. when porridge is fashionable you make porrige and if sandwiches come into fashion you make sandwiches. wtf is this.
862882;1412710109;thickasthieves;also, long-distance is a correctable disposition
862883;1412710125;thickasthieves;just stop having a career and go home
862884;1412710132;BingoBoingo;Ebook software can suck too http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10/07/1725232/adobe-spies-on-users-ebook-libraries
862885;1412710133;assbot;Adobe Spies On Users' eBook Libraries - Slashdot
862886;1412710159;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves or stop calling "a career" menial, servant jobs which don't afford you being with your family.
862887;1412710169;mircea_popescu;that's what motherfucking careers are : lines of work where you can do what you please.
862888;1412710176;mircea_popescu;doing what you have to is for house servants.
862889;1412710180;thickasthieves;hallelujah
862890;1412710243;bounce;"deputy cto", such an interesting job title.
862891;1412710283;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: Note that it's ironic that I actually made this purchase by mistake because I thought the "Deposit" button meant , yknow, depositing funds, not exchanging currencies. Your system of dollarifying all numbers is obnoxious. Let people type in bitcoin amounts and understand it as a separate currency. You're just confusing things." <<< they're not JUST confusing things.
862892;1412710288;mircea_popescu;merely doing what told.
862893;1412710308;mircea_popescu;bounce that feels like it should have a titty in there.
862894;1412710310;BingoBoingo;bingoboingo cazalla heh check out the furry of attention your little project is getting from our enemies. methinks we;ve struck oil here. << I think the individual blogs stung from time to time. The concentrated effort on a news as information service scares them.
862895;1412710317;thickasthieves;when i showed my wife the TBF nonprofit documents she commented "Chief Scientist" is an odd job title for a nonprofit
862896;1412710346;mircea_popescu;yeah well chief derp didn't sound as exciting to the prospective candidate
862897;1412710373;thickasthieves;also noted that the exec is actually a paid consultant from a separate company
862898;1412710383;thickasthieves;not unheard of , but notbale
862899;1412710396;thickasthieves;i got some good typos today
862900;1412710425;mircea_popescu;lol
862901;1412710472;mircea_popescu;anyway, she needn't worry : the third party company is where the siphoned funds are headed. the foundation is just the scamming public front.
862902;1412710516;rithm;but this is the intertubes, it must be science'd
862903;1412710560;thickasthieves;she thought ot was the exec title at first, since he's the only guy on payroll
862904;1412710571;rithm;economics is scientific and mostly theoretical, chief scientist sounds legit on a spaceship
862905;1412710602;mircea_popescu;rithm your rhymes!
862906;1412710650;rithm;let's do this next: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8422864
862907;1412710651;assbot;Build a bank | Hacker News
862908;1412710654;rithm;whatever that is
862909;1412710720;rithm;it really time for a bank named triangle, rhombus, trapezoid, or dodecagon
862910;1412710737;thickasthieves;dogecagon
862911;1412710755;mircea_popescu;or it could just be called calgon and also fix your washing machine.
862912;1412710755;rithm;i may be too late for triangle bank
862913;1412710770;thickasthieves;and fix your depression
862914;1412710800;rithm;some pills are hexagon, so hexagon bank would operate on new planes of banking
862915;1412710845;rithm;yeah that depression quote from earlier nearly made me bleed out
862916;1412710865;rithm;thankfully my secretary found me in time and administered beer
862917;1412710899;mircea_popescu;these people are out of a parody i swear. every single day. EVERY SINGLE DAY there's a "protest" in buenos aires. bout a hundred or so people gather (50 or so being the same throughout), drum the same tune on perhaps he same drums. each day.
862918;1412710903;mircea_popescu;it's almost like alternative busking.
862919;1412710920;mircea_popescu;i wonder who arranges the scheduling for all this.
862920;1412710993;rithm;#occupy?
862921;1412711056;mircea_popescu;i like how danielpbarron is -30 on the wot and +5 to assbot
862922;1412711073;mircea_popescu;if there's ever a need for illustration of the concept of total trust, and it's pointlessness - that's it
862923;1412711186;jurov;does or will qntra sell adspace?
862924;1412711205;mircea_popescu;eventually. it's an iffy topic.
862925;1412711235;ben_vulpes; !up startup_isninja << lol
862926;1412711242;thickasthieves;i hope they dont do ads
862927;1412711246;thickasthieves;i'd rather just pay
862928;1412711251;midnightmagic;mircea_popescu: is the third-party corp identified yet?
862929;1412711276;thickasthieves;so tired of ads in my face
862930;1412711334;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic yeah, ycombinator scamring
862931;1412711341;midnightmagic;sigh
862932;1412711344;mircea_popescu;whatever they call the sub in question.
862933;1412711371;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic judges commonly view through defendants corporate structrurings, if those are intended to mask the real interests in the case.
862934;1412711376;mircea_popescu;why do you think this'd be any differen ?
862935;1412711403;midnightmagic;I don't. It's just irritating.
862936;1412711855;thickasthieves;;;later tell pankkake bitfetch.com seems dead and i am sad
862937;1412711856;gribble;The operation succeeded.
862938;1412711916;thestringpuller;what is bitfetch?
862939;1412711949;thickasthieves;remote encrypted torrent dwnloader
862940;1412712008;thickasthieves;you put in a magnet link and it downloads and zips the file for you to download directly, for a small btc fee
862941;1412712043;thickasthieves;not so small, in hindsight, but yknow
862942;1412712068;thestringpuller;there was another site like that that was listed on GLBSE
862943;1412712073;thestringpuller;but i think he got shut down
862944;1412712374;mats_cd03;how is it things like that get shut down, but seedbox providers continue to operate?
862945;1412712416;jurov;how it got shud down?
862946;1412712427;jurov;*shut
862947;1412712738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.12 = 1.08 BTC [-]
862948;1412712886;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/you-cant-have-fun-with-words-in-a-laboratory-environment/
862949;1412712902;thickasthieves;nice headline "Airbitz’s Touchless Bitcoin Wallet Targets Novices, Evangelists Alike"
862950;1412713286;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbrich-defense-has-48-hours-to-counter-prosecutions-horowitz-rebuttal/
862951;1412713289;thickasthieves;https://blog.twitter.com/2014/taking-the-fight-for-transparency-to-court
862952;1412713290;assbot;Taking the fight for #transparency to court | Twitter Blogs
862953;1412713450;thestringpuller;ulbrich is gonna get off
862954;1412713453;thestringpuller;thats what she said
862955;1412716093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.14648977 = 1.4649 BTC [+] {5}
862956;1412717191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.14789991 = 1.479 BTC [+] {4}
862957;1412719509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.11598923 = 13.6867 BTC [-] {6}
862958;1412720883;kakobrekla; hey, how do I use this #bitcoin-assets channel? assbot is down < heh
862959;1412720911;kakobrekla;down for a minute and i get complaints.
862960;1412721117;mthreat;kakobrekla: a good sign
862961;1412721125;mthreat;kakobrekla: no one complains about useless software
862962;1412721223;kakobrekla;mebbe
862963;1412721226;kakobrekla;unless forced to use it
862964;1412721352;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/cavirtex-technical-issue/
862965;1412721418;thickasthieves;oh man i just made another great typo, discussing how the bearwhale was actually the 'givernment'
862966;1412722044;nubbins`;<+thickasthieves> dogecagon ,,google bobcaygeon
862967;1412722052;nubbins`;,,fail ;(
862968;1412722062;nubbins`;;;google bobcaygeon
862969;1412722063;gribble;Bobcaygeon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Tragically Hip - Bobcaygeon - YouTube: ; Bobcaygeon & Area Chamber of Commerce:
862970;1412722115;mats_cd03;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaB3Zw5_p9c assange seems to get it
862971;1412722115;assbot;Julian Assange: Bitcoin is Much More Than Just a Currency - YouTube
862972;1412722905;Daniel_Krawisz;;;rate bitstein 10
862973;1412722906;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user bitstein has been recorded.
862974;1412722918;Daniel_Krawisz;Wups, wrong tab.
862975;1412722985;thickasthieves;we dont mind in channel ratings
862976;1412722991;nubbins`;10!
862977;1412723007;thickasthieves;10 would have sex again
862978;1412723030;nubbins`;10+++
862979;1412723043;kakobrekla;i wouldnt give 10 to my mother
862980;1412723060;nubbins`;;;rated nanotube
862981;1412723061;gribble;You rated user nanotube on Tue Aug 12 18:41:45 2014, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: If you don't trust nano....
862982;1412723083;kakobrekla;maybe a 7 or an 8.
862983;1412723143;kakobrekla;highest i have given is 8
862984;1412723154;thickasthieves;would you give 10 to yourself?
862985;1412723160;Daniel_Krawisz;Ok, well it's reciprocal altruism.
862986;1412723177;nubbins`;thickasthieves -1 not sure if trust
862987;1412723180;kakobrekla;thickasthieves dunno im biased
862988;1412723193;thickasthieves;dpnt be so hard on urself
862989;1412723195;nubbins`;highest otherwise i've given is 2
862990;1412723205;nubbins`;i mean, come on
862991;1412723215;kakobrekla;the '8' is 'know him in real life for 10years+'
862992;1412723236;Daniel_Krawisz;oh ok. Well I guess we've been using a different convention.
862993;1412723254;kakobrekla;Daniel_Krawisz feel free to rate 11 if you wanna
862994;1412723258;kakobrekla;we just talking.
862995;1412723258;nubbins`;i know plenty of people 10y+ that i don't trust
862996;1412723279;nubbins`;even the nano rating is a lel, but it's true as well
862997;1412723286;kakobrekla;nubbins` yeah but time is a nonescapable condition
862998;1412723326;Daniel_Krawisz;Thanks, I downgraded him to 8.
862999;1412723381;bitstein;We are still trying to learn the best rating scales for our purposes. Perhaps a 10 is too high, but we want to signal a strong bond between board members of SNI. Moving to an 8.
863000;1412723432;Daniel_Krawisz;We're actually conjoined twins.
863001;1412723436;Daniel_Krawisz;So that's a literal strong bond.
863002;1412723450;kakobrekla;where does it say all members of your thing should have equal ratings to eachother and why
863003;1412723474;thickasthieves;you dont want to 'signal' anything
863004;1412723531;thickasthieves;it's ok to trust one board member more than another
863005;1412723534;Daniel_Krawisz;Well if I'm not supposed to signal anything, then I'll just give everybody random numbers as ratings.
863006;1412723542;thickasthieves;it helps YOU too to realize and enact this
863007;1412723589;kakobrekla;for example, i rated mp 3 and he rated me 5, yet we are equal partner in bitbet.
863008;1412723598;kakobrekla;i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading.
863009;1412723604;thickasthieves;lol
863010;1412723667;Daniel_Krawisz;Haha
863011;1412723718;bitstein;Okay, well as I clearly said, we are still learning. Our ratings will adjust over time. I actually probably need to give Daniel a complex number. A 7i + 6.
863012;1412723769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00074326 = 3.0474 BTC [-]
863013;1412723818;thickasthieves;bitstein, we dont actually know whats best, we just talk like it
863014;1412723971;Daniel_Krawisz;It's a good way to establish a dominance hierarchy.
863015;1412723979;bitstein;Word. I’d definitely be interested to learn how different people have thought through their ratings scale, though.
863016;1412724058;danielpbarron;i think of it as an exponential thing -- not sure what the base is
863017;1412724118;thickasthieves;;;market sell 5000
863018;1412724120;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 1575560.1919 USD and would take the last price down to 297.7100 USD, resulting in an average price of 315.1120 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0388 seconds
863019;1412724138;thickasthieves;stampers arent out of money yet
863020;1412724252;bitstein;danielpbarron: This. This is the base. http://youtu.be/eyPZFi2b380?t=3m16s
863021;1412724253;assbot;Josey Wales "Nothing Extra" - YouTube
863022;1412724288;bitstein;^ That is how I view the WoT.
863023;1412724465;mats_cd03;https://www.tmz.com/2014/10/07/stephen-collins-child-molestation-7th-heaven-audio-tape-nypd-investigation
863024;1412724466;assbot;'7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins - Confesses on Tape to Child Molestation ... NYPD Investigating | TMZ.com
863025;1412724609;Daniel_Krawisz;Gang's all here now.
863026;1412724845;mats_cd03;what of Mr. Wilson?
863027;1412724868;Daniel_Krawisz;We broke his window with a baseball.
863028;1412724923;mats_cd03;guess you'll have to call tim the tool man
863029;1412725053;Daniel_Krawisz;So I'm curious as to why mercea_popescu has been saying that an increased block size is a security problem. What's the issue here?
863030;1412725111;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25508 @ 0.0007459 = 19.0264 BTC [+] {2}
863031;1412725253;thickasthieves;;;ticker
863032;1412725255;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.93, Best ask: 333.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 332.92, 24 hour volume: 22642.94964933, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 336.99, 24 hour vwap: 326.71802822
863033;1412725264;thickasthieves;rise!
863034;1412725313;Daniel_Krawisz;So I'm curious as to why mircea_popescu has been saying that an increased block size is a security problem. What's the issue here? (sorry, I suck at spelling)
863035;1412725331;danielpbarron;Daniel_Krawisz, bigger blocks, fewer full nodes, less decentralizedness
863036;1412725361;thickasthieves;it's ever-increasing, increased the burden on nodes, and places pressure on the one leg of bitcoin that isnt properly compensated
863037;1412725375;Daniel_Krawisz;Oh, ok. Yeah, something needs to be done about that but I think it's a solvable problem.
863038;1412725395;thickasthieves;i'm having no part in a fork tho
863039;1412725427;thickasthieves;we built this city on rock n roll
863040;1412725447;Daniel_Krawisz;Me neither. I would rather see the block size go up. If that creates a crisis of not enough full notes, then people are going to do something about that pretty quick I'd guess.
863041;1412725502;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Daniel_Krawisz
863042;1412725502;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Daniel_Krawisz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Daniel_Krawisz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Daniel_Krawisz | Rated since: never
863043;1412725519;Daniel_Krawisz;I logged in with the wrong name accidentally. It should be DanielKrawisz
863044;1412725529;thestringpuller;;;gettrust DanielKrawisz
863045;1412725530;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Daniel_Krawisz!~dragonfly@50.97.94.39-static.reverse.softlayer.com. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user DanielKrawisz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=DanielKrawisz | WoT data: (1 more message)
863046;1412725573;danielpbarron;Daniel_Krawisz, type /nick DanielKrawisz
863047;1412725586;DanielKrawisz;Thanks.
863048;1412725630;mike_c;i bought a 4tb hdd for $190 the other day.
863049;1412725695;mats_cd03;!s rubber hose cryptanalysis
863050;1412725696;assbot;3 results for 'rubber hose cryptanalysis' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rubber+hose+cryptanalysis
863051;1412725739;danielpbarron;as to the conversation regarding BTC or XBC, a suitable symbol is '$' because, screw the dollar
863052;1412725750;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate DanielKrawisz 5 excellent writer who can’t spell - SNI compadre
863053;1412725751;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
863054;1412725838;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate bitstein 5 knows how to code, has a nose for scammers - SNI compadre
863055;1412725839;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bitstein has changed from 10 to 5.
863056;1412725864;DanielKrawisz;Wow, major downgrade.
863057;1412725880;bitstein;I’m half the man I used to be.
863058;1412725919;napedia;;;rate DanielKrawisz 5 Altcoin Hitler
863059;1412725920;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
863060;1412725924;danielpbarron;;;rate Pierre_Rochard 1 https://twitter.com/Pierre_Rochard
863061;1412725926;assbot;Pierre Rochard (@Pierre_Rochard) | Twitter
863062;1412725926;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded.
863063;1412725932;Pierre_Rochard;DanielKrawisz: I lost trust in humanity as a whole, it’s nothing personal
863064;1412725960;bitstein;Pierre_Rochard is the David Seaman of SNI.
863065;1412726003;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate danielpbarron 1 I know my tweets are good when he favorites them https://twitter.com/danielpbarron
863066;1412726006;assbot;Daniel P. Barron (@danielpbarron) | Twitter
863067;1412726006;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
863068;1412726129;danielpbarron;<3
863069;1412726182;bitstein;;;rate danielpbarron 1 encourages my self-flagellation https://twitter.com/danielpbarron
863070;1412726185;assbot;Daniel P. Barron (@danielpbarron) | Twitter
863071;1412726185;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
863072;1412726189;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/
863073;1412726292;kakobrekla;!s sni
863074;1412726293;assbot;7 results for 'sni' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sni
863075;1412726351;thickasthieves;excuse my ignorance, but cant the node cost problem be solved simply by running pay-node businesses?
863076;1412726380;bitstein;kakobrekla: this is a better search - http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nakamoto+institute
863077;1412726381;assbot;23 results for 'nakamoto institute' - #bitcoin-assets search
863078;1412726386;thickasthieves;like send 1000sat and your tx will get relayed
863079;1412726422;thickasthieves;even better, send one ATC
863080;1412726442;thickasthieves;nodecoin
863081;1412726445;thickasthieves;i dunno
863082;1412726525;danielpbarron;thickasthieves, i had that idea too
863083;1412726549;danielpbarron;simple html form with a text blob and submit button
863084;1412726558;danielpbarron;paste raw tx hex
863085;1412726570;thickasthieves;i kinda wonder if this might be an actual use for an altcoin though
863086;1412726579;thickasthieves;that way there is a symbiosis
863087;1412726588;danielpbarron;if no node fee, tx is ignored
863088;1412726628;thickasthieves;you could even charge by the size
863089;1412726650;DanielKrawisz;Yeah, nodes should be able to use micropayments to charge one another for data.
863090;1412726665;thickasthieves;but you dont need to fork bitcoin or whatever to do it
863091;1412726667;thickasthieves;just do it
863092;1412727072;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate napedia 5 I know where he lives. A right and honorable denizen of the net
863093;1412727073;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user napedia has been recorded.
863094;1412727475;danielpbarron;this is like a gpg key signing party, only it's not pointless
863095;1412727484;bitstein;;;rate napedia 5 ATX BTC Meetup - Very privileged
863096;1412727485;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user napedia has changed from 6 to 5.
863097;1412727583;bitstein;;;rate pierre_rochard 5 Crypto-Seneca of SNI
863098;1412727584;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pierre_rochard has changed from 8 to 5.
863099;1412727960;bitstein;;;rate danielkrawisz 5 Maharishi of SNI
863100;1412728008;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
863101;1412728117;danielpbarron;you don't have to reconnect to re-auth
863102;1412728149;danielpbarron;now you gone lost yer voice
863103;1412728179;princessnell;atx is repping strong 2nite
863104;1412728217;bitstein;ATX is the Vienna of Crypto-Anarchy
863105;1412728588;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00074402 = 8.3702 BTC [-] {2}
863106;1412728771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38343 @ 0.00074227 = 28.4609 BTC [-] {3}
863107;1412729442;asciilifeform;http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/01/why-hasnt-the-u-s-closed-its-airports-to-travelers-from-ebola-ravaged-countries << mega-lol. nato world tired of living?
863108;1412729443;assbot;Why hasn’t the U.S. closed its airports to travelers from Ebola-ravaged countries? - The Washington Post
863109;1412731676;decimation;asciilifeform: it's more important to cater to democrat votebanks than to protect the general population from ebola
863110;1412731882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.14999998 = 1.05 BTC [+] {2}
863111;1412731919;decimation;dub: assets is gop sponsored chan << quote from gigantic comment thread in the red/blue post: "You shouldn’t be worried more people of the Red Tribe will start voting for Republicans, Republicans are your best friends, they pacify the Red Tribe. You should be worried when they stop voting Republican and your civil society fractures."
863112;1412732774;decimation;http://flowingdata.com/2014/02/05/where-people-run/ << wow, no one jogs through anacostia, I'm shocked
863113;1412732774;assbot;Where People Run in Major Cities
863114;1412732840;decimation;in 1918 usg policy was to stop border transit in case of disease: http://www.isegoria.net/2014/10/disaster-in-the-south-pacific/
863115;1412732841;assbot;Disaster in the South Pacific « Isegoria
863116;1412733046;mats_cd03;public health policy in the us is good enough to handle ebola
863117;1412733088;decimation;ebola is ok for you
863118;1412733132;mats_cd03;id live
863119;1412733160;mats_cd03;sounds like excellent population control
863120;1412733194;asciilifeform;mats_cd03: in exactly the same way amputation is good weight control
863121;1412733211;asciilifeform;'lose weight, shed limbs!' < how i always read the spam slogan 'lose weight, shed lbs'
863122;1412733277;TheNewDeal;I don't want to lose that much!
863123;1412733510;mats_cd03;well its not like youll get america to eat salad instead of burgers
863124;1412733559;TheNewDeal;Speaking of which, I was eating a salad in front of a colleague, and he decided to be healthy he was going to not eat the bun on his burger
863125;1412733566;TheNewDeal;I consider that a decent step forward
863126;1412733872;TheNewDeal;but then again the salads at most places in the US aren't even healthy themselves. Covered with cheese, think mayo based "dressing," and a bunch of crutons
863127;1412734794;mats_cd03;call me when you get him to trade the patty for gluten
863128;1412735057;asciilifeform;mr. ebama - spreading obola.
863129;1412735187;dub;decimation: I don't really consider teh US as having a political system
863130;1412735298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00003943 = 0.5915 BTC [-] {5}
863131;1412735330;decimation;dub: at best it is a one party system
863132;1412735331;dub;you have a Guiding Hand whose system elects temporary emperors in a way designed to obfuscate it from the herd
863133;1412735377;decimation;Mr. Hand also guides the opposition into safe pasture
863134;1412735394;dub;liberal and conservate don't mean anything more than libertarian does
863135;1412735420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 22257 @ 0.00003613 = 0.8041 BTC [-] {18}
863136;1412735421;TheNewDeal;they're somewhat descriptive filters, especially when considering usian politics
863137;1412735439;TheNewDeal;not ideal, but they at least serve some purpose
863138;1412735445;decimation;those words are quite meaningful and apply broadly
863139;1412735485;decimation;it's just that the parties to which those labels are applied rarely act in any other way than the status quo
863140;1412735489;TheNewDeal;I do agree with the US being a one party though
863141;1412735511;decimation;lol
863142;1412735527;*;decimation is known as eth5434356475907977648659
863143;1412735540;TheNewDeal;nice
863144;1412735542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 70000 @ 0.00003081 = 2.1567 BTC [-] {18}
863145;1412735743;asciilifeform;eth3 << lol!
863146;1412735798;decimation;actually the democrats/republicans are quite distinguishable and serve different purposes
863147;1412735799;dub;has your air gap failed?
863148;1412735826;decimation;democrats attempt to get more free stuff from productive people to their interested constituencies
863149;1412735828;asciilifeform;incidentally, that crap gets magicked away when you zap 'udev' (actually, the name - under modern gentoo - now refers to a satanic udev-systemd - and replace with 'eudev'.
863150;1412735835;asciilifeform;(at least on the box in question)
863151;1412735866;TheNewDeal;decimation , many conservatives do this as well
863152;1412735869;decimation;republicans quell dissent by speaking against further handouts in public and in private slowrolling/diverting handouts to their own feeble interests
863153;1412735974;decimation;asciilifeform: I was going to make this point yesterday: you drive a stake in the heart of systemd because you prefer... bash?
863154;1412735998;asciilifeform;prefer bash ?
863155;1412736006;decimation;classic init
863156;1412736032;asciilifeform;i prefer a goose feather pen and ink from tree bark - if that is the only way to be rid of poettering.
863157;1412736048;*;asciilifeform does not buy forced dichotomy here
863158;1412736070;decimation;my point being that bash's shaky foundation has recently been revealed
863159;1412736096;decimation;that being said, I agree that init.d has way more miles than whatever craziness poettering is pushing
863160;1412736117;decimation;in either case, modern computing sucks
863161;1412736141;dub;ah yes, udev was the thing
863162;1412736166;asciilifeform;'the hunchback will be straightened by his grave.' (ru. saying.)
863163;1412736175;decimation;hehe
863164;1412736193;decimation;so eudev restores the sane default of eth#
863165;1412736241;asciilifeform;actually atm not 100% sure if it's eudev, or patch to config of original (satanic) variant
863166;1412736251;asciilifeform;anyone who gives a damn, invited to test the question.
863167;1412736260;asciilifeform;(anyone other than me?...)
863168;1412736276;dub;bit me hard back when rolling my own routers made sense, suddenly no way to predict which if was what on boot
863169;1412736283;decimation;googling around, I find many bewildered sysadmins who care
863170;1412736297;dub;!up jayk
863171;1412736306;*;asciilifeform wishes he had time to investigate why manual described 'eudev' as 'a fork of system-udev'
863172;1412736316;dub;someone?
863173;1412736331;decimation;as I wrote yesterday, one can always write a script to explore /sys/ if one wishes to understand how their devices are laid out
863174;1412736347;asciilifeform;dub: rolling own routers makes sense now. and even more sense yesterday.
863175;1412736372;decimation;I remember running a nat on my old 486 with slackware
863176;1412736426;kakobrekla;!up jayk ?
863177;1412736640;decimation;princessnell: how goes the blogging these days?
863178;1412737302;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu a modern u.s. schoolboy may or may not get references like 'tammany bees' - sure.
863179;1412737302;gribble;The operation succeeded.
863180;1412738830;mircea_popescu;more to it than that asciilifeform :D
863181;1412738960;mircea_popescu;!up jayk
863182;1412738964;jayk;ty
863183;1412738972;mircea_popescu;sure.
863184;1412739518;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: down for a minute and i get complaints. << depending on the recipient's age, going down for one minute may be all it takes.
863185;1412739608;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: i wouldnt give 10 to my mother << you don't know her like we do :D
863186;1412739821;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Daniel_Krawisz http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ "It is important to remember that the score associated to a relationship does not mark the direct trust of the scorer for the scoree, but merely the scorers confidence that the information he has about scoree is correct, accurate, relevant and complete. All four."
863187;1412739822;assbot;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
863188;1412739822;gribble;The operation succeeded.
863189;1412739892;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD
863190;1412740046;mircea_popescu;Daniel_Krawisz: Me neither. I would rather see the block size go up. If that creates a crisis of not enough full notes, then people are going to do something about that pretty quick I'd guess. <<< yeah, sure they will. specifically, sink the bitcoin lite resulting from the fork and sticking to the original.
863191;1412740119;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: excuse my ignorance, but cant the node cost problem be solved simply by running pay-node businesses? << zipf problem.
863192;1412740408;mircea_popescu;http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-29533 << gotta appreciate usgavin's dedication
863193;1412740409;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
863194;1412740423;mircea_popescu;he's almost ninjashogun level, the way he goes everywhere, trying a pass or two of the same spun content.
863195;1412740565;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: mega-lol. nato world tired of living? << from what i gather a little bit of epidemic doesn't look so bad up top. nice profits for pharma, might even get the country outta recession.
863196;1412740746;asciilifeform;naturally.
863197;1412740814;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: I consider that a decent step forward << lol gotta work
863198;1412740880;mircea_popescu;dub: you have a Guiding Hand whose system elects temporary emperors in a way designed to obfuscate it from the herd << emperors my foot. pretty much all the president can do is mispronounce for the camera and be made a laughingstock of.
863199;1412740903;mircea_popescu;i think the last guy that tried to do anything substantial was reagan. maybe nixon.
863200;1412741073;mircea_popescu;ahh all caught up. it's a nioce feeling
863201;1412741075;mircea_popescu;!up nara__narayana
863202;1412741898;nara__narayana;well hello
863203;1412741916;nara__narayana;http://www.naturalnews.com/046290_Ebola_patent_vaccines_profit_motive.html#
863204;1412741917;assbot;Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?' - NaturalNews.com
863205;1412741928;nara__narayana;you guys seen this yet?
863206;1412741947;mircea_popescu;nope
863207;1412741980;nara__narayana;kewl
863208;1412742119;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOK5pon8-Ok << no eng. subs for the inglischers unfortunately. but still educational.
863209;1412742119;assbot; . . - YouTube
863210;1412742131;asciilifeform;(storm of donetsk airport)
863211;1412742220;nara__narayana;key flux point
863212;1412742272;nara__narayana;just learned today that assad and ISIL/ISIS/TNEX are pretty closely tied
863213;1412742278;nara__narayana;so that's pretty chill
863214;1412742383;mircea_popescu;doh
863215;1412742403;mircea_popescu;proxy wars to the death, over there.
863216;1412742466;nara__narayana;mhm
863217;1412742474;PeterL;asciilifeform: which side are the soldiers in the video?
863218;1412742479;asciilifeform;interesting that everyone pictured is firing semi-auto
863219;1412742490;asciilifeform;PeterL: ru
863220;1412742514;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "allegedly" :p
863221;1412742535;PeterL;Isn't it generally accepted that semi-auto is more effective?
863222;1412742538;mircea_popescu;]This video may be inappropriate for some users.
863223;1412742541;asciilifeform;a number are wearing soviet-era regalia/medals (grandfather's ?)
863224;1412742541;mircea_popescu;meh.
863225;1412742563;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform afaik the stuff is traded widely among active duty men.
863226;1412742574;mircea_popescu;sort-of like in a sports team. lucky charms and all that
863227;1412742577;asciilifeform;traded widely among - everybody
863228;1412742588;*;asciilifeform played with big tub of these as a boy
863229;1412742644;mircea_popescu;i never really care, except i bought the yugo equivalent of the purple heart from a lame guy once and wore it to a politico party to make ap oint
863230;1412742650;mircea_popescu;cared*
863231;1412742660;asciilifeform;lol!
863232;1412742674;asciilifeform;point was made ?
863233;1412742700;mircea_popescu;"see this ? guess which limb i'm missing, mr x?" "uhh" "the shame. just like you."
863234;1412742715;nara__narayana;yes
863235;1412742761;mircea_popescu;nara__narayana so who're you anyway ?
863236;1412742829;nara__narayana;myself
863237;1412742854;nara__narayana;just roaming around america atm
863238;1412742873;decimation;asciilifeform: I got that u-blox neo-7n module running, now to use pps signal to discipline that ocxo card
863239;1412742874;nara__narayana;crypto+mobile tech has allowed be to do this thank god
863240;1412742886;asciilifeform;ocxo?
863241;1412742909;decimation;the pci card off of ebay I linked awhile back. $3k golden toliet price, I paid 100
863242;1412742917;asciilifeform;aha
863243;1412742930;decimation;!up nara__narayana
863244;1412743008;nara__narayana;who's seeing the blood moon?
863245;1412743133;asciilifeform;16:40 mark - fellow explains why ropes on stiff's feet (own side) - tied, to pull him a bit from a distance, see if 'surprise underneath'
863246;1412743158;asciilifeform;(ancient favourite trick, if anyone didn't know it)
863247;1412743174;asciilifeform;incidentally
863248;1412743185;asciilifeform;i kept wondering, for months, when 'hot' machines from Pripyat will turn up
863249;1412743190;asciilifeform;word is - this has happened.
863250;1412743204;asciilifeform;('graveyard' was full of perfectly good mothballed tech)
863251;1412743261;nara__narayana;what will be gotten from said tech?
863252;1412743281;asciilifeform;perfectly good machines - tanks, trucks, etc
863253;1412743298;asciilifeform;just a little bit of reactor crud in them.
863254;1412743304;asciilifeform;circa '86.
863255;1412743356;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform they're not that hot anymore anyway
863256;1412743359;mircea_popescu;been what, 20 years.
863257;1412743364;asciilifeform;inside.
863258;1412743364;mircea_popescu;30 even
863259;1412743395;nara__narayana;antifragile radiation bruh
863260;1412743439;nara__narayana;who doesn't need their daily dose of radioactive decay?
863261;1412743439;decimation;eh, it's pretty easy to clean up fallout
863262;1412743449;decimation;just wash it down well, you're good
863263;1412743474;decimation;people get their panties in a bind about radiation, it's everywhere in varying amount
863264;1412743479;mircea_popescu;decimation 30 years' rains, bout done by now.
863265;1412743485;mircea_popescu;!up deadalus
863266;1412743494;asciilifeform;doesn't rain inside the box
863267;1412743495;decimation;yeah, depends where it was and how much plutonium stuck to it
863268;1412743511;decimation;apparently plutonium is extremely sticky from what I've heard
863269;1412743568;decimation;!up mpmcsweeney
863270;1412743599;*;mpmcsweeney tips his hat
863271;1412743662;mircea_popescu;how goes.
863272;1412743674;mircea_popescu;decimation iodine was most of the fallout
863273;1412743684;mircea_popescu;actual plutonium is quite rarely a contaminant
863274;1412743696;nara__narayana;lol apparentyl im not kidding http://mic.com/articles/88483/something-surprising-happened-to-the-animals-around-chernobyl-28-years-after-the-disaster
863275;1412743696;assbot;Something Surprising Happened to the Animals Around Chernobyl 28 Years After the Disaster - Mic
863276;1412743709;decimation;yeah that's not so good, take your iodine pills to keep it out of your endocrine system
863277;1412743748;decimation;pretty much everything lower than Pu in the atomic table is present to some degree inside a fission reactor
863278;1412743807;mircea_popescu;well if the reaction runs away... pretty much everything forms.
863279;1412743815;decimation;the main problem is the stuff that decays slowly, but on the upside it decays slowly - less intense radiation
863280;1412743817;mircea_popescu;there's probably stuff all the way to 230 in there.
863281;1412743820;mircea_popescu;course it doesnt live long
863282;1412743840;decimation;that was the point of the 'cold war shelter' - live in a box until the really hot stuff rots away and then come out in relative safety
863283;1412743852;asciilifeform;washes away.
863284;1412743858;decimation;heh yeah that too
863285;1412743866;mircea_popescu;yeah, more wash than decay really.
863286;1412743868;asciilifeform;not 'too' - mostly.
863287;1412743890;decimation;I would believe that. The main problem is gonna be stuff that gets taken up in plants over the long term
863288;1412743906;asciilifeform;the ~30yr. half lives of sr-90 and cs-137 are just that
863289;1412743909;asciilifeform;half-lives.
863290;1412743916;asciilifeform;not one-$maxint-th lives.
863291;1412743920;mircea_popescu;but anyway, for living things the problem is mostly their own metabolism. radioactive iodine is not distinguished from plain iodine ends up in endocrine system. strontium is, as far as the body is concerned, perfectly good calcium. so on.
863292;1412743931;decimation;indeed.
863293;1412743951;decimation;but that isn't gonna end humanity, just raise the probability of certain cancers
863294;1412744018;asciilifeform;more interesting than the birds and wolves - are the very old women (mostly women) who still live there.
863295;1412744038;nara__narayana;marrow?
863296;1412744041;asciilifeform;there's something like a few dozen left.
863297;1412744052;decimation;I saw a show about it once, I think there is still a stubborn russian orthodox church open there too
863298;1412744056;*;asciilifeform did not go and count, relies on rumour
863299;1412744060;PeterL;their breeding the X-men in there!
863300;1412744068;PeterL;they're
863301;1412744096;mircea_popescu;wasn't there some nutty motorcycle chick that kept sneaking in for a while ?
863302;1412744106;asciilifeform;afaik proven cribbed.
863303;1412744106;nara__narayana;http://thebabushkasofchernobyl.com/ \\ lolll omg
863304;1412744106;assbot;The Babushkas of Chernobyl | A story of three unlikely heroines from the most toxic place on Earth
863305;1412744112;asciilifeform;(from other folks)
863306;1412744124;decimation;lol 'most toxic place on earth'
863307;1412744143;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00074399 = 3.3108 BTC [+]
863308;1412744161;decimation;I suspect that the nasty emissions that blot the sun from the sky in china do 'more harm', however you want to measure
863309;1412744180;asciilifeform;if you stay out of the buildings (not everyone can resist temptation to teleport into a nearly intact soviet childhood) it's clean. cleaner than a good chunk of the 'civilized' world.
863310;1412744272;decimation;one wonders what ukraine would be like today if the nazis managed to survive in some fashion
863311;1412744283;asciilifeform;lol
863312;1412744291;asciilifeform;they survived in a little nature preserve - there.
863313;1412744296;asciilifeform;go and say hello to them.
863314;1412744298;nara__narayana;oh they certainly did
863315;1412744311;decimation;hehe you mean the crazy 'ukrainian nationalists'?
863316;1412744316;asciilifeform;nope
863317;1412744320;asciilifeform;or rather, yes
863318;1412744326;asciilifeform;though they don't call themselves that
863319;1412744343;nara__narayana;what minds do you think the US harvested for their rocket progammes?
863320;1412744343;asciilifeform;(they are in the process of adopting english as an official language. so, go ask them what they're called.)
863321;1412744389;decimation;I guess what I mean by 'nazi' is 'europe as a world power' instead of 'europe as us disneyland'
863322;1412744401;asciilifeform;lol
863323;1412744407;asciilifeform;afaik those are dead, like dodo.
863324;1412744409;mircea_popescu;it wouldn't have been in any sense europe.
863325;1412744430;nara__narayana;lol
863326;1412744430;mircea_popescu;now, had the austro-hungarians actually defeated the nasty side of germans, then yes, europe as world power.
863327;1412744445;mircea_popescu;but ironically, i think by now it'd have looked exactly like us
863328;1412744459;decimation;that is an even more interesting thought.
863329;1412744480;nara__narayana;my grandfather still complains about the Hungarian population of peoples geographically stuck in Transylvania
863330;1412744501;asciilifeform;stuck?
863331;1412744503;decimation;yeah, I strongly doubt that the austro-hungarians would have resisted the 'democracy' derpage
863332;1412744514;asciilifeform;they're chained to walls, or what ?
863333;1412744524;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes.
863334;1412744531;decimation;they were sat upon stakes
863335;1412744538;mircea_popescu;the womenz married to romanians won't live, the boys fdesperately in love wiht the womenz...
863336;1412744549;nara__narayana;idk, hungary in particular has a unique culture
863337;1412744550;mircea_popescu;you know how it is.
863338;1412744566;mircea_popescu;nara__narayana quite particular. for 100 years straight the highest suicide rate in europe
863339;1412744597;mircea_popescu;back in 1980 the big news was that east germany became the 2nd highest (after hungary, everyone shook shoulders- of course after hungary)
863340;1412744598;asciilifeform;depends on what's a suicide and where europe is.
863341;1412744598;nara__narayana;geopolitical boundaries, asci
863342;1412744607;decimation;probably because it's depressing as fuck to know that your culture is on the permanent wane
863343;1412744620;mircea_popescu;decimation doesn't seem to affect the scots
863344;1412744631;asciilifeform;i.e. does death by no, fi, ru - rotgut - count as a suicide?
863345;1412744637;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nah actually, > russia.
863346;1412744643;mircea_popescu;hahaha no.
863347;1412744644;decimation;their culture died in 1745
863348;1412744689;nara__narayana;mircea_popescu funny you mention that, cousin committed suicide just recently
863349;1412744697;mircea_popescu;well maybe not that funny
863350;1412744763;decimation;!up nara__narayana
863351;1412744809;nara__narayana;genes are powerful i supose
863352;1412744819;decimation;when I was last in europe (london) I got the depressing feeling that the shells of the historic buildings were being occupied by squatters unworthy of their inheritance
863353;1412744837;mircea_popescu;you know i tend to think the exact same ?
863354;1412744856;mircea_popescu;started in egypt, this. spent a day in the museum surrounded by tall, lithe, elegant nosed people
863355;1412744860;asciilifeform;as if it were otherwise in old-time usa
863356;1412744865;mircea_popescu;go into the street, short bug-like big nosed arab orcs
863357;1412744867;mircea_popescu;wtf.
863358;1412744871;asciilifeform;(even when the colours match)
863359;1412744874;decimation;yeah I got the same feeling in boston
863360;1412744878;dub;who is curernt holder of teh title?
863361;1412744926;mircea_popescu;which
863362;1412744956;*;asciilifeform vaguely recalls turnbull having claimed that the Ik are in fact ancient egyptians. or was this in a bad dream ?
863363;1412744957;dub;most likely to succeed, at suicide
863364;1412744961;nara__narayana;the nose knows
863365;1412744985;asciilifeform;(genealogically)
863366;1412744996;decimation;it motivates me to visit Liechtenstein one day, it's probably the closest the world has to an actual historical form of functional government
863367;1412745015;decimation;although it's probably been ruined by derpy swiss
863368;1412745016;nara__narayana;care to elaborate why?
863369;1412745016;mircea_popescu;uh
863370;1412745022;mircea_popescu;yea srsly, how you figued ?
863371;1412745033;asciilifeform;'functional government' exactly like a miraculously-intact leaf of salad in your kitchen garbage disposal is a 'garden.'
863372;1412745053;nara__narayana;swiss lol
863373;1412745109;nara__narayana;jk those bankers fucking got it made
863374;1412745139;decimation;nara__narayana: not really, who wants to bank in switzerland when they will divulge your banking to anyone who asks?
863375;1412745180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00074444 = 5.2483 BTC [+] {2}
863376;1412745200;decimation;this is mainly why I classify it as slightly different http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18649156
863377;1412745200;assbot;BBC News - Liechtenstein referendum rejects curbs on royal powers
863378;1412745276;nara__narayana;i was under the impression that switzerland was a banking hub due to many circumstances, both political and geographical
863379;1412745303;nara__narayana;but whatev, what do i know?
863380;1412745330;decimation;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2014#857910
863381;1412745331;assbot;Logged on 04-10-2014 02:47:05; mircea_popescu: but anyway, only someone who had physically visited switzerland cca say 1994 can appreciate the immensity of the drop
863382;1412745437;nara__narayana;kk thanks
863383;1412745693;decimation;http://sprottmoneyblog.com/switzerland-to-take-back-its-gold/
863384;1412745694;assbot;Switzerland to Take Back Its Gold? | Sprott Money Blog
863385;1412745892;mircea_popescu;i keep getting requests from derps to delete this or that bit from trilema as if this were somehow a matter of course
863386;1412745896;mircea_popescu;wtf is wrong with people.
863387;1412745922;PeterL;they think you are hurting their feelings?
863388;1412745924;Duffer1;delete?
863389;1412745926;mircea_popescu;sooooo....
863390;1412745946;nara__narayana;i <3 censorship
863391;1412745953;nara__narayana;http://online.wsj.com/articles/swiss-national-bank-reaffirms-currency-floor-maintains-rate-1411027953
863392;1412745953;assbot;Swiss National Bank Reaffirms Currency Floor, Maintains Rate - WSJ
863393;1412745964;mircea_popescu;forget censorship even, that's something for the powerful
863394;1412745980;mircea_popescu;these are just... random nobody. figures he can write to people who he doesn't know, and tell them what to do
863395;1412745990;mircea_popescu;fucking broken society, nobody has any idea of their place anymore
863396;1412745990;nara__narayana;bank doesn't want value of currency to trise for some reason
863397;1412745997;nara__narayana;liquidity concerns?
863398;1412746048;nara__narayana;plebeians gonna pleb
863399;1412746173;mircea_popescu;"o, someone important wrote something i don't like about me ? i know, i will CHANGE so that i'm no longer like that!11"
863400;1412746189;mircea_popescu;too fucking hard. how about instead... ask them to delete it. should work o.o
863401;1412746341;decimation;as if you can delete anything on the internet anyway
863402;1412746359;nara__narayana;status is such a currency right now, most people are blinded by veneer
863403;1412746368;nara__narayana;*now
863404;1412746375;nara__narayana;i guess it always has been
863405;1412746428;nara__narayana;aesthetic should be self-similar to content
863406;1412746555;nara__narayana;it's been a pleasure, see you guys later
863407;1412748048;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11538 @ 0.0007461 = 8.6085 BTC [+] {2}
863408;1412748586;decimation;;;ticker
863409;1412748588;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 329.7, Best ask: 330.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.77000, Last trade: 330.47, 24 hour volume: 22932.71045831, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 335.01, 24 hour vwap: 326.354768788
863410;1412748828;TheNewDeal;bc,stats
863411;1412748833;TheNewDeal;;;bc,stats
863412;1412748836;gribble;Current Blocks: 324372 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 203 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 18 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35298088650.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.8368
863413;1412748878;Vexual;;;later tell cazalla http://www.startupsmart.com.au/growth/bitcoin-startups-get-their-own-co-working-space/2014100813382.html
863414;1412748878;gribble;The operation succeeded.
863415;1412750995;TheNewDeal;decimation: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ Should have been red, blue, and white tribes... duh
863416;1412750998;assbot;I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup | Slate Star Codex
863417;1412751219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.13099999 = 2.62 BTC [-]
863418;1412751280;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16160 @ 0.00074337 = 12.0129 BTC [-] {2}
863419;1412751524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 550 @ 0.00149995 = 0.825 BTC [+] {6}
863420;1412751567;Vexual;TheNewDeal: There are no wise men without idiots.
863421;1412751720;TheNewDeal;sure there are
863422;1412751842;TheNewDeal;anyways, author forgoed the opportunity to call the whitest of tribes white, and called them gray. White would have served better to confuse the crowd of readers
863423;1412752282;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: 'functional government' exactly like a miraculously-intact leaf of salad in your kitchen garbage disposal is a 'garden.' << Maybe not a garden for you, but a garden for mycellium
863424;1412752370;TheNewDeal;was gavin really commenting on qntra, or is that merely an actor
863425;1412752558;BingoBoingo;Seems to be actual Gavin
863426;1412752570;Vexual;You could ask him
863427;1412752610;TheNewDeal;vexual, are you too sober at this point in time?
863428;1412752644;Vexual;what am I making sense to you?
863429;1412752699;TheNewDeal;too many sense
863430;1412752761;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/839/a-team-from-california-will-win-the-world/#c4116 << Lol, only one California team left but both Missouri teams remain.
863431;1412752761;assbot;BitBet - A team from California will win the World Series :: 0.07 B (39%) on Yes, 0.11 B (61%) on No | closing in 2 days 16 hours | weight: 1`695 (100`000 to 1)
863432;1412752805;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.01494324 = 0.7472 BTC
863433;1412753961;BingoBoingo;The Republic of Firestone Tires successfully contains Ebola in its corner of Africa http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/10/06/354054915/firestone-did-what-governments-have-not-stopped-ebola-in-its-tracks
863434;1412753961;assbot;Firestone Did What Governments Have Not: Stopped Ebola In Its Tracks : Goats and Soda : NPR
863435;1412753983;Vexual;lol
863436;1412754021;Vexual;i don't even wanna read that the headline and byline are so good
863437;1412754065;Vexual;'firestone being a cheap chinese tyre that vurns as good as any bridgestone, and also goats and soda
863438;1412754131;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2P8AQ5K.txt )
863439;1412754131;BingoBoingo;!b 5
863440;1412754131;BingoBoingo;lol
863441;1412754265;BingoBoingo;http://journals.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=101927
863442;1412754268;assbot;PsychiatryOnline | The Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences | Ejaculation After Defecation Without Orgasm Induced by Milnacipran
863443;1412754319;Vexual;bonfires over
863444;1412754584;Vexual;theres milnacipran in the marshmallows people, everyone out
863445;1412754683;Vexual;is not a good shit good enough?
863446;1412754713;Vexual;science gone mad
863447;1412754872;Vexual;have you seen this BingoBoingo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBC-46
863448;1412754913;Vexual;apparently it dissappears tumours in days
863449;1412754948;BingoBoingo;Interesting. Also apparently it keeps the Roos at bay
863450;1412754965;Vexual;well i think possums dont eat it
863451;1412754997;Vexual;although im not sure if anyones given them aesophogeal cancer yet
863452;1412755023;Vexual;qbiotics is still accepting investors i tink
863453;1412755063;Vexual;do yo uknow anything of the chemistry?
863454;1412755089;BingoBoingo;Not all too much.
863455;1412755119;Vexual;any idea on extraction?
863456;1412755129;Vexual;theres 5 years of black market there
863457;1412755130;fluffypony;I think I'm going to re-watch Rick & Morty
863458;1412755131;Vexual;:)
863459;1412755142;fluffypony;season 2 is too far away
863460;1412755171;BingoBoingo;There also isn't much that could really be divined looking at such a big small molecular weight molecule
863461;1412755219;Vexual;if you care to read the paper id be interested
863462;1412755221;bounce;huh, the usg cannot copyright but it can own patents? bit of a loophole there.
863463;1412755292;Vexual;bounce copyright and patent are two different concepts
863464;1412755311;assbot;xiando +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
863465;1412755322;bounce;!up xiando
863466;1412755390;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Africa do anything interesting with BTC today?
863467;1412755400;fluffypony;well we haven't banned it yet
863468;1412755478;punkman;https://www.mailpile.is/blog/2014-10-07_Some_Thoughts_on_GnuPG.html
863469;1412755478;assbot;Mailpile: Some thoughts on working with GnuPG
863470;1412755580;punkman;http://rem.eifzilla.de/archives/2013/07/16/gpg4win-and-the-feds
863471;1412755580;assbot;Gpg4win and the feds -- Werner's own blurbs
863472;1412755818;Vexual;what the hell are you making?
863473;1412755922;BingoBoingo;Having to ship GnuPG binaries to Windows and MacOS users is bad enough, but dependency hell is a place we want to stay out of. If we were writing Mailpile in, say, C or C++, then PGPME would definitely be the library of choice, but we're not, so it isn't. << lulz
863474;1412756106;BingoBoingo;"These both follow the same output format, according to DETAILS. But look what happens when I add spaces to align the columns:" << Then don't align the fucking columns to make them "look nice"
863475;1412756111;Vexual;you were reading electum a few days ago
863476;1412756126;punkman;I'm on to supybot now
863477;1412756134;Vexual;ahhh
863478;1412756137;RagnarDanneskjol;which?
863479;1412756145;punkman;which supybot?
863480;1412756154;punkman;guess I'm going with Limnoria fork
863481;1412756166;punkman;maybe nanotube has some advice on this matter
863482;1412756178;Vexual;i still have no idea what youre doing
863483;1412756182;punkman;nanotube, should I use Limnoria?
863484;1412756196;RagnarDanneskjol;which as in whats the project - sorry If i overlooked
863485;1412756226;punkman;rewriting deedbot and maybe other things
863486;1412756235;RagnarDanneskjol;OH excellent
863487;1412756324;Vexual;what does deedbot do?
863488;1412756337;RagnarDanneskjol;http://deedbot.com
863489;1412756337;assbot;deedBot
863490;1412756372;Vexual;i like to read the cover first
863491;1412756372;RagnarDanneskjol;the guy is mia and never delivered the final code ver so had to have one of my haxor friends break into his server to extract it.. server has more holes than (something with a lot of holes)
863492;1412756398;punkman;well who wants a PHP hairball anyway
863493;1412756405;RagnarDanneskjol;xactly
863494;1412756513;thestringpuller;PHP hairballs are gross
863495;1412756516;thestringpuller;python ftw
863496;1412756560;punkman;he did duct-tape the thing pretty quickly, I'll give him that
863497;1412756569;thestringpuller;at least it works.
863498;1412756570;thestringpuller;.deed
863499;1412756575;thestringpuller;>:\
863500;1412756585;RagnarDanneskjol;needs voice
863501;1412756600;Vexual;!up deedbot
863502;1412756612;RagnarDanneskjol;php is what the boss ordered - despite my misgivings
863503;1412756666;thickasthieves;;;ticker
863504;1412756668;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 339.09, Best ask: 339.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 339.69, 24 hour volume: 20390.99035761, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 342.0, 24 hour vwap: 328.165414436
863505;1412756686;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
863506;1412756688;deedBot;deed B98228A001ABFFC7 asciilifeform with 1 signature valid in next bundle
863507;1412756688;deedBot;deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle
863508;1412756688;deedBot;Found 2 valid deeds in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed
863509;1412756748;thestringpuller;Reddit comments always deliver!
863510;1412756752;thestringpuller;Yeah I'm not sure this will be so controversial. If miners want BTC to be worth more, then they'll want the network to scale. It's really that simple. And Gavin is obviously trustworthy.
863511;1412756890;RagnarDanneskjol;yes, quite the pinnacle of enlightened, thoughtful discourse
863512;1412756892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8055 @ 0.00074225 = 5.9788 BTC [-] {2}
863513;1412757017;punkman;http://g10code.com/steed.html
863514;1412757017;assbot;g10 Code - STEED
863515;1412757099;RagnarDanneskjol;Oh. thats neat
863516;1412757319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.13199999 = 2.772 BTC [+]
863517;1412757389;thestringpuller;Everyone just wants to follow Gavin and the BitcoinFoundation to the edge of the cliff.
863518;1412757685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 58 @ 0.13099999 = 7.598 BTC [-] {2}
863519;1412757734;punkman;https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec99/whitten.html
863520;1412758206;Vexual;http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-content/photos/000/844/cache/84413_990x742-cb1412615706.jpg
863521;1412758370;thestringpuller;is that the moon or mars?
863522;1412758382;RagnarDanneskjol;blood moon tonight
863523;1412758389;punkman;you'd have noticed it if it was mars
863524;1412758433;Vexual;thats a likeness of Juscelino Kubitschek with the last blood moon
863525;1412758442;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedbot
863526;1412758510;punkman;guess I'm gonna register deedbot2
863527;1412758590;RagnarDanneskjol;yea - we'll get it back from him soon
863528;1412758603;RagnarDanneskjol;maybe deedb0t
863529;1412758609;punkman;maybe punkbot
863530;1412758612;bounce;d33db0t
863531;1412758615;RagnarDanneskjol;OH yea
863532;1412758765;Vexual;http://www.eyeneer.com/video/rock/jimi-hendrix/voodoo-chile-a-slight-return this is jimi hendrix describing thet he was born of a night like tonight
863533;1412758870;deedBot;Bundled: 7612d32b22d661a66af49c283157bcb11b0fcc72d3230d61447199ac251675e9-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt
863534;1412759042;Vexual;well, he doesnt actualy mentio in in that version, but theres a small return
863535;1412759388;deedBot;published http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/7612d32b22d661a66af49c283157bcb11b0fcc72d3230d61447199ac251675e9-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt
863536;1412759745;punkman;RagnarDanneskjol: did you see anything interesting at the conference
863537;1412759830;RagnarDanneskjol;i got delayed - missed the first conference - headed to this one tomorrow. there is like a whole week of them.. hashers united(laff) comes the next day
863538;1412759837;RagnarDanneskjol;going to http://coinagenda.com/
863539;1412759838;assbot;Home
863540;1412759882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 74 @ 0.01059552 = 0.7841 BTC [-] {2}
863541;1412759942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.13099999 = 0.786 BTC [-]
863542;1412759974;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Would you be up for taking some pictures?
863543;1412759984;Vexual;ooh baby
863544;1412760017;thickasthieves;kinda looks like a scammy conference
863545;1412760025;RagnarDanneskjol;hmm, maybe. this is all investor derps and I'm not much of a camera guy, but guess I can take some spy shots
863546;1412760064;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00074277 = 20.2405 BTC [+] {2}
863547;1412760072;punkman;slap on a qntra.net badge, say you are from the press
863548;1412760078;RagnarDanneskjol;they are all scammy conferences. make your skin crawl to hear most of the stuff there - like the worst of the worst. I just go to gawk
863549;1412760083;RagnarDanneskjol;Ha
863550;1412760110;thickasthieves;Brian Santos is the BitcoinPride/SatoshiPoker guy
863551;1412760127;thickasthieves;he doesnt say so when he speaks tho
863552;1412760133;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Just if there's any booths out there would be appreciated. If you get 5 picutres I'll toss you Hundredth out of the Cardinals won the NLDS kitty.
863553;1412760163;BingoBoingo;Also Hundredth is the new slang for what used to be called a bitcent
863554;1412760174;RagnarDanneskjol;heh. no 'exhibitors at this one. its all start up pitched to Angel losers
863555;1412760180;BingoBoingo;Ah
863556;1412760184;RagnarDanneskjol;pitches*
863557;1412760238;punkman;will they have lulzy powerpoints?
863558;1412760245;BingoBoingo;Oh, so the desperate starter uppers don't have booths in a pen where they sling pitches like at Arrington's?
863559;1412760246;RagnarDanneskjol;i can only hope so
863560;1412760265;Vexual;hundreth? sounds a litlle sr ?
863561;1412760291;Vexual;who says hundreth?
863562;1412760310;BingoBoingo;Vexual: We have to accept that Bitcoin itself may become contraband all on its own.
863563;1412760352;Vexual;mayhaps ill just bust ross out, did they move his 140k?
863564;1412760370;BingoBoingo;Havent checked
863565;1412760395;Vexual;i think they did
863566;1412760430;Vexual;this aint shawshank
863567;1412760455;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Check any NCAA betting lines yet this week? My usually shitbook is offering Mizzou and Georgia at even money.
863568;1412760503;BingoBoingo;!up eightyeight
863569;1412760508;RagnarDanneskjol;not yet - usually wait till thursday. That will be a great game.
863570;1412760509;BingoBoingo;!up eizodo
863571;1412760528;punkman;http://www.worldslargestship.com/building-a-triple-e/
863572;1412760529;assbot;Building it | Worlds largest ship
863573;1412760540;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: Either great or horrible. Georgia hasn't been looking very Georgia like this year.
863574;1412760576;RagnarDanneskjol;i kno. fun fact: Ragnar played as redshirt freshman for the bulldogs
863575;1412760592;RagnarDanneskjol;d-end
863576;1412760632;RagnarDanneskjol;I actually hate the team tho,, my team's USC (carolina)
863577;1412760653;RagnarDanneskjol;altho I fuking HATE Spurrier.
863578;1412760674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00074697 = 4.183 BTC [+]
863579;1412760743;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozDDYcyrCNE so, you like baseball?
863580;1412760755;BingoBoingo;Nice. I imagine no one really likes Spurrier though. Sort of coach who wins consistently, but it is so painful to endure the way he does it.
863581;1412760814;punkman;http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/10/06/beepi-raises-60-million-to-sell-used-cars-to-the-smartphone-generation/
863582;1412760814;assbot;Beepi Raises $60 Million to Sell Used Cars to the Smartphone Generation - Digits - WSJ
863583;1412760833;punkman;" in a bet that people will purchase used cars with a few taps from their smartphones without ever taking a test drive."
863584;1412760960;Vexual;surely the smartphone generation prefers new cars?
863585;1412760964;punkman;oh they even take bitcoin
863586;1412761003;BingoBoingo;I prefer used cars myself, but would never buy one without a test drive.
863587;1412761013;Vexual;thats it\
863588;1412761028;Vexual;but kids line up to pay 1000 for the new ihone
863589;1412761052;BingoBoingo;Give the cars a few years to separate what is actually reliable vs. crippled
863590;1412761226;BingoBoingo;Also the way cars depreciate unless you do the retarded route and go Dealer certified the discount for used is immense.
863591;1412761290;BingoBoingo;Additionally I've found a new favorite pdf de-turder http://document.online-convert.com/convert-to-txt
863592;1412761291;assbot;Convert documents to TXT
863593;1412761306;Vexual;neato
863594;1412761310;RagnarDanneskjol;oh NICE - i need this
863595;1412761379;BingoBoingo;It was the first converter I tried that actually de-shitted the court pdf successfully
863596;1412761396;Vexual;eat beans
863597;1412761401;Vexual;before court
863598;1412761450;BingoBoingo;Vexual: I have to get a hold of the lawyer today, and find out why again it appears he failed to get a dismissal.
863599;1412761467;Vexual;dismissal you'll have
863600;1412761494;punkman;BingoBoingo: is it because he keeps getting paid?
863601;1412761508;Vexual;;;google frank matano naples
863602;1412761509;gribble;Farting on people 2 ( Italy- Naples ) =)))) by Frank Matano - YouTube: ; Farting on people ( italy-milan ) =))) by Frank Matano - YouTube: ; farts on people in the park. [Frank Matano] - YouTube:
863603;1412761568;BingoBoingo;punkman: He only gets paid again if it goes to trial.
863604;1412761731;BingoBoingo;But he already seems too busy for his caseload.
863605;1412761783;Vexual;look him in the eye and tell him what you want, same goes for the judge
863606;1412761913;Vexual;save if for the day if your guy is being a cunt
863607;1412761964;BingoBoingo;I already have a sack of secret shit ready for trial if it comes to that.
863608;1412762126;cazalla;mircea_popescu: any insight into where qntra traffic is coming from? << cazalla ran off with a lass, but he'll be back midweek, ima push him to put quantcast in there, then you can see directly. <<< i will do this in the morning
863609;1412762216;cazalla;sgornick: Hey cazalla and/or BingoBoing, ... check PM for message re: @Qntra twitter - http://Twitter.com/Qntra <<< you can change email to info@qntra.net, happy to leave it as a feed, ty for that
863610;1412762218;assbot;Qntra (@qntra) | Twitter
863611;1412762266;BingoBoingo;Does anyone here participate in webbotforum.com they've been sending a tiny bit of traffic, but no way to know in what context we've been linked
863612;1412762631;punkman;BingoBoingo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Bot
863613;1412762631;assbot;Web Bot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
863614;1412762636;punkman;probably automated
863615;1412762663;BingoBoingo;punkman: If you go to their domain it seems more like a sort of club or cult thing.
863616;1412762675;BingoBoingo;Seekrit manifest and all
863617;1412762688;punkman;yeah think I've seen it before
863618;1412762917;punkman;here's a "report" from them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AyMq5iYUhI
863619;1412762917;assbot;IDIR6212014FlyingNaziEconomy - YouTube
863620;1412763197;Vexual;that being said, it's highly likey the best of the suisse banks are unchanged still
863621;1412763372;Vexual;and bingoboingos case will be dismissed
863622;1412763382;BingoBoingo;I hope
863623;1412763396;Vexual;well it's kinda how things go
863624;1412763443;Vexual;you're probably tagged as a pep
863625;1412763580;Vexual;ie politically exposed person
863626;1412763625;BingoBoingo;Maybe?
863627;1412763665;BingoBoingo;After seeing what happened with Weev, maybe the figure I'm less problematic if not exposed to prison?
863628;1412763703;Vexual;well im channelling tomme le jones here now, but id say if you dont do too mcuh wrong in the next well youll be fine
863629;1412763886;Vexual;tomme lee jones never typed that dunk
863630;1412763890;Vexual;*drunk
863631;1412763917;Vexual;who's weev?
863632;1412763930;cazalla;gnaa
863633;1412763951;Vexual;u wot?
863634;1412763973;cazalla;;;ud gnaa
863635;1412763974;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=GNAA | Nov 29, 2004 ... Are you a gay nigger!? YES!! well there you go...you are eligible. GNAA came to town but no one went to the convention. I felt bad. Wait. what?
863636;1412763984;Vexual;yes but weev?
863637;1412763994;Vexual;oh
863638;1412764041;Vexual;cazalla a desk at that coop might bring scoops
863639;1412764075;Vexual;or chinese lunches
863640;1412764086;cazalla;just catching up on logs, then i'll check out links
863641;1412764116;Vexual;all mojo
863642;1412764129;Vexual;all day
863643;1412764218;Vexual;;;gettrust cazalla
863644;1412764219;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Vexual to user cazalla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Vexual&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014
863645;1412764273;cazalla;what's your wot name Vexual
863646;1412764280;Vexual;muxne
863647;1412764340;cazalla;;;rate muxne 1 true blue fair dinkum aussie battler
863648;1412764341;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
863649;1412764359;cazalla;fuck that's too hard right now
863650;1412764365;Vexual;grappa?
863651;1412764384;cazalla;i've had a beer but i just finished driving syd to melb
863652;1412764397;Vexual;youll need a few more
863653;1412764403;cazalla;so many dead roos on the hume hwy yet none in sight
863654;1412764421;Vexual;did you see the guy hit a roo on a harley on liveleak?
863655;1412764422;cazalla;nah just 1, i'm done (excessive) drinking
863656;1412764426;cazalla;no lol
863657;1412764437;Vexual;he hit it square and held it
863658;1412764446;Vexual;115kph
863659;1412764506;cazalla;there is a gixxer hitting one on youtube but no harley, that it?
863660;1412764546;Vexual;i dont know what gixxer is
863661;1412764577;cazalla;gsxr
863662;1412764587;cazalla;the suzukis
863663;1412764592;Vexual;im sure it said harley
863664;1412764602;Vexual;1100?
863665;1412764615;cazalla;found it
863666;1412764621;Vexual;thatd be more than 155 and chop suey
863667;1412764640;Vexual;weights up higher
863668;1412764664;cazalla;damn, lucky rider
863669;1412764679;Vexual;good rider first, also lucky
863670;1412764724;Vexual;i rode a gsxr once
863671;1412764761;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87600 @ 0.00074185 = 64.9861 BTC [-] {5}
863672;1412764808;Vexual;i saw colours
863673;1412764831;cazalla;i had a zzr for a bit, thinking i'll play some road rash for real
863674;1412764836;cazalla;you know how that worked out
863675;1412764921;Vexual;thats a fast piece of machinery, and the valves sound special
863676;1412764939;Vexual;give you the kinda feedback you need at 100 mph
863677;1412764945;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/supreme_court_dispatches/2014/10/supreme_court_arguments_for_arkansas_prisoner_beard_case_what_can_you_hide.html
863678;1412764945;assbot;Supreme Court arguments for Arkansas prisoner beard case: What can you hide in half-inch stubble?
863679;1412764968;Vexual;im guessing you bent the front spokes and gave it away?
863680;1412765001;cazalla;nah, i came off the road, mind you this was zzr 250cc, not even a powerful bike
863681;1412765021;cazalla;slid on the gravel a bit, bike was all scratched to hell, spooked me enough to call it a day
863682;1412765030;Vexual;well a zzr 250 and a gsxr1100 across the traffic lights...
863683;1412765035;Vexual;and top speed...
863684;1412765066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.13099999 = 2.096 BTC [-] {2}
863685;1412765076;cazalla;was for the best
863686;1412765079;Vexual;theres not much in it
863687;1412765087;cazalla;zzr is a nice bike
863688;1412765125;Vexual;yah
863689;1412765177;cazalla;anyway, things we do when young and stupid
863690;1412765238;Vexual;yeah, i wouldn't wanna ride one all the way to sydney
863691;1412765399;Vexual;but a zzr 250 will take anything across the likes at 13k revs
863692;1412765405;Vexual;*lights
863693;1412765433;thickasthieves;;;ticker
863694;1412765435;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 345.79, Best ask: 346.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 346.0, 24 hour volume: 22349.95030193, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 346.0, 24 hour vwap: 330.570145068
863695;1412765438;thickasthieves;yep yep
863696;1412765444;Vexual;unless you're an elf on a powerband aprillia 125
863697;1412765536;Vexual;shits got more ^2 than a 747
863698;1412765807;Vexual;i hope they put kawasakis in hoverbikes
863699;1412765883;Vexual;or are they called hoverquads?
863700;1412765921;Vexual;quikes?
863701;1412766058;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspJVTQz7dU loose tappets
863702;1412766304;dub;sounds like my car
863703;1412766361;Vexual;deus ex machina
863704;1412766371;dub;which has a yamaha 1800 vtec
863705;1412766394;Vexual;honda?
863706;1412766401;dub;fuck you
863707;1412766407;Vexual;its cool
863708;1412766414;dub;toyota corolla
863709;1412766415;Vexual;its an excellent machine
863710;1412766432;Vexual;blueprinted?
863711;1412766443;dub;mostly stock
863712;1412766474;Vexual;what year?
863713;1412766642;Vexual;i had an 82
863714;1412766673;Vexual;leaked oil
863715;1412766686;Vexual;and power
863716;1412766762;Vexual;and occassionally din't run
863717;1412766825;Vexual;but iv'e been in a nice one
863718;1412766854;Vexual;made me wish i knew how to maintain
863719;1412767290;dub;'01 jdm zze123, sold as sportivo in au
863720;1412767391;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQeRVMuMdVc US equiv, about how mine runs
863721;1412767391;assbot;Riyoz Racing Toyota MR-S / Spyder with 2zz-ge engine in Sepang Circuit ( SIC ) - YouTube
863722;1412767451;dub;er matrix is US body
863723;1412767459;Vexual;i sthat a rear engine jobbie?
863724;1412767476;dub;mrs is
863725;1412767615;Vexual;spyder for the mrs
863726;1412767669;Vexual;most borrowed car evar
863727;1412767841;Vexual;now its all tts and 350s
863728;1412768004;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwO43jRd7M0 just gotta get milk
863729;1412768421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 24031 @ 0.00003222 = 0.7743 BTC [+] {2}
863730;1412768549;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/coinagenda-conference-begins-today/
863731;1412768559;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvL-kiDbNeU
863732;1412768644;RagnarDanneskjol;coingenda started yesterday fyi bingoboingo
863733;1412768656;BingoBoingo;RagnarDanneskjol: That was just a reception
863734;1412768667;Vexual;melbourne seems realer about doind stuff
863735;1412768718;RagnarDanneskjol;oh yea - i see you mentioned that - I got my confrences mixed - its a fuull week
863736;1412768727;Vexual;that said ive never been to vegas
863737;1412768884;bounce;after a receiont last night ... after a reception last night. so there was like a reception last night? did I get that right?
863738;1412768930;BingoBoingo;fxd
863739;1412768965;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbHLj7xt5Rw afroman circa 200 (lyric:sell your crack on the internet but not yet)
863740;1412769574;mthreat;Vexual: 350z?
863741;1412769595;Vexual;yah, ladies car
863742;1412769614;Vexual;get the saloon
863743;1412769648;mthreat;i had a 350z, great track car
863744;1412769659;Vexual;well then
863745;1412769680;mthreat;and i had this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_P8JMp4aNo
863746;1412769680;assbot;1995 Toyota MR2 turbo - YouTube
863747;1412769758;Vexual;ill take the mr2
863748;1412769852;mthreat;which saloon do you mean?
863749;1412769862;mthreat;above
863750;1412769873;Vexual;whats it called the nissan?
863751;1412769892;Vexual;i forget
863752;1412769915;mthreat;the 350z?
863753;1412769919;mthreat;gt-r?
863754;1412769926;Vexual;thats the ladies coupe
863755;1412769930;Vexual;thast it
863756;1412769962;mthreat;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMfLxCHIWK8 <-- ladies?
863757;1412769962;assbot;Dicey 350z exit from turn 2 at Texas World Speedway CCW - YouTube
863758;1412770154;Vexual;it's a sexy car, i just wouldnt own it
863759;1412770187;mthreat;fair 'nuff
863760;1412770202;dub;exige still have the 2zz-ge?
863761;1412770222;Vexual;ill take a gtr
863762;1412770316;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs heres your fat ass 350
863763;1412770383;mthreat;yeah, and the later models are supercharged
863764;1412770400;Vexual;supercharged?
863765;1412770418;mthreat;(Exiges). yeah, my S260 has 260 horsepower with a 1.8L engine
863766;1412770429;Vexual;that might cause some forward mmomentum
863767;1412770444;mthreat;with a 2000-pound car, yep
863768;1412770459;dub;yeah NA version in my car
863769;1412770485;Vexual;NA is NA
863770;1412770551;dub;know a couple of dudes with blower kits
863771;1412770662;Vexual;well let me at cha with a dremel and a scredriver
863772;1412770806;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgGuadsqyo
863773;1412770871;Vexual;corolla
863774;1412770942;Vexual;get acii on the case put a belt drive blower on that shit
863775;1412770949;Vexual;*ascii
863776;1412770993;Vexual;fix the oil seals manyana
863777;1412771044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20752 @ 0.0007423 = 15.4042 BTC [+]
863778;1412771362;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5LQxrZccQE
863779;1412771397;Vexual;looks like julia t
863780;1412771682;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5I7lXV9b88
863781;1412771861;Vexual;fuckin aye
863782;1412772060;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aepBpZ3kXek
863783;1412772371;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyaUtnWr8Gw jack nicholson on freedom in the usa
863784;1412772592;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/salmon-festival-a-financial-flop-town-reveals-1.2792049
863785;1412772592;assbot;Salmon Festival a financial flop, town reveals - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
863786;1412772615;nubbins`;imagine, Maroon 5 was the headliner and nobody wanted to go
863787;1412772620;nubbins`;who woulda thought
863788;1412772629;Vexual;id go, i love maroon 5
863789;1412772649;Vexual;also salmon
863790;1412772659;Vexual;prolly moreso
863791;1412772754;Vexual;im ust be part inuit
863792;1412772862;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmugSMBh_iI
863793;1412772877;Vexual;did you go?
863794;1412773123;thickasthieves;so basically concert organizers change to appease crowd, no one comes
863795;1412773124;Vexual;guess not
863796;1412773135;thickasthieves;wisdom of the crowd!
863797;1412773224;Vexual;aerosmith , kiss, marooooooooooooooooooooooon5
863798;1412773241;Vexual;the lcal scan't say it
863799;1412773311;Vexual;marun?
863800;1412773333;Vexual;mar'un
863801;1412773344;Vexual;eh fek it
863802;1412773614;nanotube;punkman1: yea limnoria is a good choice.
863803;1412773635;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMEGBsw6j8
863804;1412773867;Vexual;orb learn relativity
863805;1412773880;*;Vexual wanker
863806;1412773969;Vexual;orb report hapiness
863807;1412774023;*;Vexual vaoant
863808;1412774130;nubbins`;thickasthieves they changed to appease the wrong crowd
863809;1412774149;nubbins`;this concert is in the middle of the fuckin island in a town of 13k people
863810;1412774177;nubbins`;generally they get some washed-up act like kiss or the eagles or aerosmith, everybody's parents drive out to central to relive the days of their youth
863811;1412774189;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RXRHmIFB_c
863812;1412774194;nubbins`;nobody's driving 5 hours to see a maroon 5 concert.
863813;1412774338;thickasthieves;or salmon
863814;1412774346;thickasthieves;nor*
863815;1412774468;nubbins`;well, y'know, rightly so.
863816;1412774484;nubbins`;anyway, attendance this year was about 1/3 of last year, when they ran out of water.
863817;1412774490;Vexual;id drive 5 hors for a slice of salmon
863818;1412774516;nubbins`;and so at the end of the day, the town is out half a mill
863819;1412774523;thickasthieves;we have a shrimp fetsival here that does really well
863820;1412774529;Vexual;thats a half thruth
863821;1412774532;nubbins`;maybe next year they'll get william hung
863822;1412774536;thickasthieves;they dont get famous bands so much as very popular cover bands
863823;1412774546;nubbins`;heh thickasthieves that's the idea
863824;1412774569;mircea_popescu;yeah i was gonna say that sounds like a winner
863825;1412774589;nubbins`;"up next: pistols & flowers"
863826;1412774604;nubbins`;"up next: led hot zilli peppers"
863827;1412774611;Vexual;lol
863828;1412774619;nubbins`;(they cover rhcp AND zeppelin, natch)
863829;1412774627;mircea_popescu;you srs ?!
863830;1412774631;Vexual;yay not wasting moeny!
863831;1412774631;nubbins`;no joke
863832;1412774642;mircea_popescu;pistols & flowers ?
863833;1412774650;nubbins`;also no joke
863834;1412774651;mircea_popescu;wtf's next, "the whom" ? "the bind" ?
863835;1412774658;Vexual;lol
863836;1412774668;nubbins`;i had an idea that we'd have a newfoundland-based Who cover band called The Wha?
863837;1412774673;mircea_popescu;ahahh
863838;1412774685;mircea_popescu;moar like the why, amirite.
863839;1412774695;*;nubbins` claps softly
863840;1412774696;Vexual;meth + none is cheaper than someone
863841;1412774703;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnoxRXmKrdU
863842;1412774703;assbot;Led Hot Zili Peppers - Proud Mary - Turtle Jacks, Jun.14/11 - YouTube
863843;1412774715;nubbins`;i suspect these guys are just hanson with some hair dye
863844;1412774725;nubbins`;drummer looks about 9
863845;1412774733;Vexual;kids rock
863846;1412774758;mircea_popescu;!up brianhoffman
863847;1412774764;Vexual;drummers going places
863848;1412774774;nubbins`;not with his hair in his eyes
863849;1412774789;mircea_popescu;just as long as he doesn't care about the blood...
863850;1412774790;Vexual;he'll be shaved and get better friends
863851;1412774796;nubbins`;Vexual in the meantime, sick article about silkscreening touchscreens
863852;1412774810;nubbins`;wish there was more video ;/
863853;1412774810;Vexual;yeah its the future and shit
863854;1412774832;mircea_popescu;ahhh this is lulzy. trilema traffic on bitcoin bottom day, = the entire month of august.
863855;1412774833;nubbins`;once i figure out a food-based emulsion i'm going to start screening jam on my sandwiches
863856;1412774838;mircea_popescu;this blog be goin' places.
863857;1412774845;mircea_popescu;nubbins` mayo.
863858;1412774853;nubbins`;mircea_popescu i guess everyone figured you had the answers
863859;1412774862;mircea_popescu;people have been painting with mayo since about 1500
863860;1412774880;nubbins`;but wouldn't all the egg just preserve everything nicely?
863861;1412774909;nubbins`;actually this reminds me, roomie made mayo from scratch the other day
863862;1412774926;nubbins`;i think it was a good idea letting this guy move in
863863;1412774928;mircea_popescu;nubbins` 20gb dood. more than all the text everyone who ever wrote the constitution ever read.
863864;1412774945;nubbins`;that's a lotta text
863865;1412774958;mircea_popescu;which guy ?
863866;1412774992;nubbins`;so there's this restaurant here, RAYMONDS, and it's been voted the top restaurant in canada a number of times by a number of different publications who feel it's in their power to dish out such an award
863867;1412775011;nubbins`;new roomie gets a job there 2 days after he moves in
863868;1412775016;nubbins`;and MAN can this guy fuckin cook
863869;1412775047;thickasthieves;The Whom, lol!
863870;1412775056;mircea_popescu;o hai tat
863871;1412775075;Vexual;resturants go bad with bad mayo
863872;1412775101;nubbins`;i had these roma tomatoes and i wondered aloud "what can i make with these?"
863873;1412775108;Vexual;its where the very term chicken shit came from
863874;1412775138;mircea_popescu;nubbins` just ftr, i make all the girls learn to make mayo from scratch. which means, from eggs.
863875;1412775143;nubbins`;9 hours later we'd made homemade mayo, lasagna from scratch, a full shoulder of pulled pork, fresh ravioli, pan-seared cod...
863876;1412775144;mircea_popescu;it's not so hard really.
863877;1412775162;mircea_popescu;but lasagna takes more than nine hours.
863878;1412775177;Vexual;you make lagsngne in house?
863879;1412775182;nubbins`;the prep work was done the day before
863880;1412775187;nubbins`;had to slow-roast the tomatoes in the oven overnight
863881;1412775190;mircea_popescu;a
863882;1412775199;Vexual;immabout to get garfield on your arse mr poescue
863883;1412775215;mircea_popescu;hm ?
863884;1412775216;nubbins`;but yeah. pasta, sauce, meat, all of it from scratch
863885;1412775228;mircea_popescu;well the meat was ostensibly made from cow.
863886;1412775231;nubbins`;HEH
863887;1412775231;kakobrekla;did ya kill the cow?
863888;1412775234;nubbins`;moose, in fact
863889;1412775241;nubbins`;ground it ourselves tho!
863890;1412775244;kakobrekla;ah, ran over it?
863891;1412775248;thickasthieves;under
863892;1412775258;nubbins`;nah my mom is from "the bay", we get all the moose we want for free
863893;1412775270;nubbins`;heh thickasthieves knows how they're shaped
863894;1412775278;mircea_popescu;lol
863895;1412775280;nubbins`;generally you hit a moose, it ends up in your lap
863896;1412775286;kakobrekla;does moose taste similar to deer?
863897;1412775291;nubbins`;never tried deer
863898;1412775295;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla nah, similar to bison.
863899;1412775298;nubbins`;moose is like a spicy/stringy beef
863900;1412775306;kakobrekla;never had bison or moose. had deer many times.
863901;1412775318;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla how about wild boar ?
863902;1412775321;nubbins`;caribou might be closert
863903;1412775323;nubbins`;*closer
863904;1412775349;kakobrekla;possibly although i dont recall it.
863905;1412775350;mircea_popescu;he lives basically in this model railroad world. all they got there is rabbits, quail and the occasional deer. tinycountry.
863906;1412775367;kakobrekla;who me?
863907;1412775368;nubbins`;and dogs
863908;1412775371;mircea_popescu;yes you :D
863909;1412775385;kakobrekla;meh
863910;1412775390;kakobrekla;horse ftw
863911;1412775392;thickasthieves;they have ice too
863912;1412775404;nubbins`;anyway this all started with "i wonder what i can do with these roma tomatoes"
863913;1412775422;mircea_popescu;ok ok, horse works. cow -> moose is about the same amplitude as chicken -> horse
863914;1412775427;nubbins`;24h later, eating moose/pork/tomato ravioli w/ cod and veg: "this is one thing you can do with those tomatoes"
863915;1412775451;nubbins`;9h after that, eating lasagna: "this is another thing"
863916;1412775470;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu you forgot 'edible house mouse'
863917;1412775473;mircea_popescu;nubbins` careful you don't end up living with an ex little producer.
863918;1412775475;Vexual;i make a wholemeal pasta for my lagsagne
863919;1412775476;kakobrekla;eh
863920;1412775480;kakobrekla;'edible dormouse'
863921;1412775488;mircea_popescu;uh. wtf
863922;1412775494;kakobrekla;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_dormouse
863923;1412775494;assbot;Edible dormouse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
863924;1412775501;mircea_popescu;edible by whom, squirrels ?
863925;1412775505;nubbins`;ex little producer
863926;1412775520;mircea_popescu;nubbins` paul f little
863927;1412775537;kakobrekla;these live in the woods and their fat has great medical value
863928;1412775547;nubbins`;"this, sadly, is another thing you can do with those tomatoes :("
863929;1412775564;kakobrekla;but yes, they have been and are still (traditionally) eaten
863930;1412775600;Vexual;rats?
863931;1412775607;mircea_popescu;looks more like a chinchilla
863932;1412775614;kakobrekla;romans ate em
863933;1412775633;thickasthieves;Glis Glis, heh
863934;1412775638;Vexual;do you mice the bones or dress them?
863935;1412775641;kakobrekla;smaller than chinchilla
863936;1412775649;kakobrekla;its like a big mouse
863937;1412775670;Vexual;mice the whole thing? fur and all?
863938;1412775675;kakobrekla;very good furr also
863939;1412775675;thickasthieves;like a grey chipmunk
863940;1412775706;kakobrekla;my grandfather still hunts them
863941;1412775719;Vexual;lets stick to beef
863942;1412775744;thickasthieves;should we use glue or mayo?
863943;1412775758;nubbins`;i've got a variety of adhesives we can use
863944;1412775760;Vexual;what is this the fucking roadkill cafe?
863945;1412775766;nubbins`;how about alba-tac?
863946;1412775779;thickasthieves;this room would probly prefer sugru
863947;1412775788;nubbins`;i have some sugru but i think it's expired.
863948;1412775789;Vexual;sugru?
863949;1412775800;thickasthieves;adhesive putty
863950;1412775802;nubbins`;feels unusually stiff inside the package
863951;1412775809;nubbins`;Vexual room-temp-cure silicone
863952;1412775818;Vexual;thats not food
863953;1412775821;thickasthieves;lol
863954;1412775825;nubbins`;who said anything about food?
863955;1412775830;nubbins`;we're trying to stick to beef here
863956;1412775839;Vexual;and mayo
863957;1412775851;nubbins`;mayo's not sticky enough
863958;1412775865;Vexual;although i can cook kangaroo like you won't see anywhere
863959;1412775877;thickasthieves;it makes you blind?
863960;1412775896;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_pornography#mediaviewer/File:Wiki-POV-pornography.png
863961;1412775896;assbot;Gonzo pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
863962;1412775906;nubbins`;now you know
863963;1412775916;Vexual;no just generally, people leave kangaroo off the menu
863964;1412775958;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> mayo's not sticky enough << you can make it as sticky as you want
863965;1412775965;Vexual;because is a shade harder to do than mayo, and blantantly unnecessary
863966;1412775971;nubbins`;but i'm almost out of oil :(
863967;1412775984;mircea_popescu;use lube i guess ?!
863968;1412775999;nubbins`;would precum work?
863969;1412776012;Vexual;you get one of two experiences
863970;1412776022;Vexual;good and bad
863971;1412776042;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you gonna make mayo out of eggs and eggs ?
863972;1412776078;kakobrekla;actually worth it , lol, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZM-eG-SZ_A&feature=youtu.be
863973;1412776078;assbot;Fake questions at the catwalks during Milano Fashion Week - YouTube
863974;1412776080;nubbins`;actually, i don't know if i have any eggs left.
863975;1412776086;nubbins`;the lasagne took like ten of them
863976;1412776086;mircea_popescu;o heya cazalla. how was the lass ?
863977;1412776092;Vexual;yoghurt is the lesser level to mayo
863978;1412776122;Vexual;its supposed to be ... err how you say
863979;1412776129;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao idjits
863980;1412776158;kakobrekla;totally
863981;1412776165;Vexual;cultured?
863982;1412776171;kakobrekla;i dont want to be on this planet anymore!
863983;1412776174;thickasthieves;kako awesome vid lol
863984;1412776189;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla or you could just no go to milan for faker week
863985;1412776193;mircea_popescu;i mean fashion week
863986;1412776250;kakobrekla;if only this would be limited to that.
863987;1412776255;Vexual;its all about the greek
863988;1412776272;thickasthieves;"everything you can put on your head, i love it."
863989;1412776312;nubbins`;shoes
863990;1412776313;mircea_popescu;"ballsacs especially"
863991;1412776367;mircea_popescu;can you use phpmyadmin to administer anything other than mysql incidentally ?
863992;1412776408;kakobrekla;not that id known
863993;1412776474;mircea_popescu;anyway, all these people giving the sr prosecution a hard time are just assholes.
863994;1412776498;mircea_popescu;they got on the server and did if (database === php), got True and are all in the right.
863995;1412776606;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJQSAiODqI
863996;1412776888;mircea_popescu;Scalia cuts him off: Well, religious beliefs arent reasonable. I mean, religious beliefs are categorical. You know, its God tells you. Its not a matter of being reasonable. He looks amazed. God, be reasonable?
863997;1412776895;mircea_popescu;gotta love scalia lol
863998;1412776910;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/trinity-western-grad-attacked-for-being-christian-in-job-rejection-1.2791323
863999;1412776910;assbot;Trinity Western grad 'attacked' for being Christian in job rejection - British Columbia - CBC News
864000;1412776952;nubbins`;check the "read the full email" link just below the picture of the red viking guy
864001;1412777002;mircea_popescu;imo that's great precedent. hopefully people start attacking muslims for being muslims, it's a fucking ridoinculous religion and it needs some public mockery.
864002;1412777047;Vexual;i havent read the book
864003;1412777134;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
864004;1412777135;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 339.73, Best ask: 340.97, Bid-ask spread: 1.24000, Last trade: 339.73, 24 hour volume: 22401.26252814, 24 hour low: 321.98, 24 hour high: 346.0, 24 hour vwap: 333.936354616
864005;1412777143;Vexual;thats lad looks like she might not be able to fjord tho
864006;1412777208;Vexual;since when did no or yes need a qualifier
864007;1412777209;mircea_popescu;to fjord ? it's a fjverb now !?
864008;1412777216;Vexual;ya
864009;1412777219;Vexual;its both
864010;1412777266;Vexual;english is whorish like that
864011;1412777277;thickasthieves;viking guy says, re jesus "if i was to meet the guy, i'd actually fuck him."
864012;1412777307;nubbins`;+1 hey?
864013;1412777322;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't fuck dubious jew carpenter guys
864014;1412777331;mircea_popescu;mary magdalene, however, maybe.
864015;1412777338;mircea_popescu;this is pre-syphilis after all.
864016;1412777338;nubbins`;did he die a jew, tho?
864017;1412777356;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what's with this canadian preoccupation with death in a fucking context.
864018;1412777358;nubbins`;iirc the guy was baptized
864019;1412777369;nubbins`;heavens ripped open, etc etc, john had a bit of concern over it all
864020;1412777379;mircea_popescu;the ripped open heavens i'd fuck
864021;1412777395;nubbins`;who wouldn't?!
864022;1412777431;nubbins`;"Given that the SR Server was hosting a blatantly criminal website, it would have been reasonable for the FBI to 'hack' into it in order to search it, as any such 'hack' would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary."
864023;1412777437;nubbins`;what the fuckin fuck?
864024;1412777445;mircea_popescu;http://stmarymagcoa.org/ << lol!
864025;1412777445;assbot;St Mary Magdalen Parish - Home
864026;1412777464;mircea_popescu;nubbins` welcome to yesterday's lols.
864027;1412777470;mircea_popescu;they were had!
864028;1412777472;nubbins`;just catching up
864029;1412777529;nubbins`;"given that the american senator had pornography on his computer, the glorious kingdom of saudi arabia hacked into his computers without compunction, as any such 'hack' would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary"
864030;1412777585;nubbins`;welcome to the asymmetric future
864031;1412777597;mircea_popescu;certainly.
864032;1412777625;mircea_popescu;im sure the argument will be brought on any future "onoes we were hacked" trials.
864033;1412777639;mircea_popescu;course you were hacked, you're the fucking government, everyone's principal enemy.
864034;1412777703;nubbins`;!s hard fork
864035;1412777703;assbot;17 results for 'hard fork' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hard+fork
864036;1412777726;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: so basically concert organizers change to appease crowd, no one comes. wisdom of the crowd! << quite. the worst thing you can do is listen to the idiots. just because they do with the mouth doesn't mean they actually want any of it implemented. what's next, cow barns made according to cow moos ?
864037;1412777760;thickasthieves;lol
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864039;1412777769;thickasthieves;!b 2
864040;1412777777;mircea_popescu;there isn't even a process to turn mooing into blueprints.
864041;1412777782;nubbins`;mooooprints
864042;1412777793;*;nubbins` tips hat, lights jazz cigarette
864043;1412777802;mircea_popescu;lol jazz cigarette
864044;1412777811;mircea_popescu;;;google patricia kaas is not jazz
864045;1412777812;gribble;Patricia Kaas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Black Coffee - Patricia Kaas - YouTube: ; Patricia Kaas - L'heure du jazz (LP, L out) - YouTube:
864046;1412777851;nubbins`;hm, i wonder...
864047;1412777854;nubbins`;;;ud jazz cigarette
864048;1412777854;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jazz%20cigarette | A slang term used for Marijuana cigarettes during the 1920's in the United States. Cannabis cigarettes were sold in jazz clubs during this period thus the origin of ...
864049;1412777869;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you asshole, aerosmith ain't washed up!!!!1
864050;1412777871;nubbins`;all's well
864051;1412777877;nubbins`;mircea_popescu -_-
864052;1412777890;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDI2ZjXwK8
864053;1412777899;mircea_popescu;anyway. yeah, they did ok, 1 lb of cocaine a month for 40 years
864054;1412777913;nubbins`;i saw jane's addiction a few years ago. they were supposed to have steven tyler come out to play guitar for "jane says"
864055;1412777920;nubbins`;but the old bastard broke his brittle elbow
864056;1412777934;nubbins`;so they got whoever the fuck plays guitar in aerosmith instead
864057;1412777936;nubbins`;joe somebody?
864058;1412777945;mircea_popescu;tyler plays guitar now ?!
864059;1412777953;nubbins`;right?!
864060;1412777961;nubbins`;joe perry, that's it.
864061;1412777966;mircea_popescu;yup
864062;1412777972;mircea_popescu;tyler just does with the mouth
864063;1412777977;nubbins`;anyway, imagine that asshole and dave navarro on a stage together
864064;1412777988;mircea_popescu;no idea who dave is
864065;1412777996;mircea_popescu;but tyler's enough an asshole for any needs.
864066;1412778007;nubbins`;guitarist from j.a., had some success in a douchey solo career
864067;1412778016;mircea_popescu;anyway, perry is imo the best guitar player of all time.
864068;1412778021;nubbins`;very "hollywood"
864069;1412778021;nubbins`;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Dave_Navarro_2010.jpg
864070;1412778030;nubbins`;mircea_popescu FWIW he fucking slayed the song
864071;1412778059;mircea_popescu;kinda underrated because people are idiots and since tyler was such a magnetic frontman they forgot perry's even there
864072;1412778071;mircea_popescu;heck, he forgot too, leading to some animosity down the road. but anyway
864073;1412778109;nubbins`;til mp is into smith
864074;1412778143;mircea_popescu;o yeah. always been. this is what i used to answer when 12 yo girls asked a 11 yo me what music i listen to
864075;1412778161;nubbins`;heh. i had a brief fling around the time "get a grip" came out
864076;1412778162;nubbins`;didn't last
864077;1412778167;nubbins`;anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DHGZZ-apMk
864078;1412778167;assbot;Jane's Addiction - Jane Says (Live at Irvine Meadows 1991) - YouTube
864079;1412778176;nubbins`;NOT featuring joe perry, but hey.
864080;1412778184;Vexual;noice
864081;1412778213;mircea_popescu;i don't think they ever did something i didn;t like. but then mtv came out and i stopped following.
864082;1412778357;nubbins`;how about the "don
864083;1412778361;nubbins`;'t wanna close my eyes" shit
864084;1412778366;nubbins`;armageddon
864085;1412778379;mircea_popescu;eh get out.
864086;1412778399;*;nubbins` calmly tips over king w/ pawn
864087;1412778422;nubbins`;sorry, low blow
864088;1412778426;mircea_popescu;nah, the band formed in the early 70s, did it';s stuff by the end of the decade. then fairbairn pumped some life into it enough to get permanent vacation out and that's about it.
864089;1412778480;mircea_popescu;course the videos with applegate and tyler's young hottie are not bad, but they're not really good, either.
864090;1412778495;mircea_popescu;if only liv tyler were inhabited by stoya.
864091;1412778539;thickasthieves;eddie van halen is probly my #1 guitarist
864092;1412778559;thickasthieves;not cause i like van halen songs tremendously
864093;1412778565;nubbins`;<+mircea_popescu> if only liv tyler were inhabited by stoya.
864094;1412778567;nubbins`;leeel
864095;1412778570;thickasthieves;just really appreciate how he works in them
864096;1412778575;mircea_popescu;shit, it's not applegate, iths the other blondie
864097;1412778577;mircea_popescu;wtf was her name
864098;1412778581;mircea_popescu;silverstone!
864099;1412778585;thickasthieves;arquette?
864100;1412778586;Vexual;blondie?
864101;1412778592;nubbins`;alicia
864102;1412778599;mircea_popescu;yeah
864103;1412778632;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you laugh, sir, but once they find a way to allow personality implants, most housewives will be running stoya 1.0
864104;1412778639;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU
864105;1412778643;thickasthieves;so, question, can digital music monetization be solved by essentially IPOing songs via bitcoin?
864106;1412778660;thickasthieves;each song is purchased and each customer becomes a X% owner of the current remaining % unpurchased
864107;1412778663;thickasthieves;sorta like a ponzi
864108;1412778667;thickasthieves;but not
864109;1412778670;thickasthieves;you get a song
864110;1412778674;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves you're missing the part about how someone, somewhere, sometime HAS TO PAY SOMETHING
864111;1412778679;nubbins`;mircea_popescu and most aspies will be running schwartzenegger_0.9_early_beta_SiKOSiS_cracked_with_keygen
864112;1412778684;mircea_popescu;that's the crux. nothing is getting solved around that.
864113;1412778691;thickasthieves;but they get part ownership
864114;1412778695;mircea_popescu;nubbins` that's already here.
864115;1412778695;thickasthieves;so sales revenue
864116;1412778701;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves sales ? what sales ?
864117;1412778702;thickasthieves;stake
864118;1412778718;mats_cd03;so MA just passed some legislation raising min. wage to $9/hr in jan2015 and $10/hr in jan2016
864119;1412778721;thickasthieves;well popular artists could have preorders and min orders
864120;1412778728;nubbins`;mats_cd03 congratulations!
864121;1412778730;mats_cd03;i wonder whats going to happen
864122;1412778737;nubbins`;min wage was raised to $10.25 here a week or two ago
864123;1412778738;mats_cd03;i aint some broke nigga nubbins`
864124;1412778739;mircea_popescu;nobody's sold anything since 1999. ticket sales work exactly like political campaign contributions, the ticket agencies get most of the dough.
864125;1412778749;nubbins`;mats_cd03: it'll breathe more life into the local economy? :P
864126;1412778752;mircea_popescu;people still do it for the concerts, because you can generally pick a chick in the crowd to fuck.
864127;1412778756;mats_cd03;i doubt it
864128;1412778758;mircea_popescu;or even a couple of em, depending.
864129;1412778771;nubbins`;mats_cd03: you know that minimum-wage earners spend most of their raises, right?
864130;1412778773;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 nothing's gonna happen.
864131;1412778779;Vexual;ill be moving fixed rate rice soon
864132;1412778782;mats_cd03;more part time workers
864133;1412778791;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26474 @ 0.00074733 = 19.7848 BTC [+] {2}
864134;1412778795;mats_cd03;more people getting penalized for not having health insurance
864135;1412778798;nubbins`;a raise in minimum wage is a boon for small businesses that aren't too fucking stupid or poorly managed to take advantage of it
864136;1412778814;nubbins`;oh, wait, USA, right. the health thing.
864137;1412778818;mircea_popescu;heh.
864138;1412778819;*;nubbins` shakes head sadly
864139;1412778828;mats_cd03;b-b-but romneycare in MA
864140;1412778837;mircea_popescu;pity they don't do the same thing to education, too
864141;1412778841;thickasthieves;apple reports selling 25billion songs
864142;1412778841;mircea_popescu;O WAIT!!!!
864143;1412778842;mircea_popescu;mwahahaha
864144;1412778846;thickasthieves;soooo
864145;1412778850;thickasthieves;someone's buying
864146;1412778855;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves nope.
864147;1412778855;nubbins`;did you know i can jam a dirty needle into the crook of my elbow, rub hobo cum in it, wrap it in plastic for a month, and the hospital will fix it FOR FREE?
864148;1412778888;Vexual;fuck mano
864149;1412778910;mircea_popescu;nubbins` that's because you have canadiancare, which is really just nationalised obamacare. you're socialists over there, not like the true capitalists down south. that's why.
864150;1412778915;thickasthieves;$7.6bn CD sales
864151;1412778916;thickasthieves;lol
864152;1412778930;thickasthieves;$5.87b digital music
864153;1412778943;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH3Q_CZy968
864154;1412778946;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves you're confusing this situation where large companies play their own game with this situation where "someone's buying".
864155;1412778956;mircea_popescu;look at what the "computer security" market is at, sometime.
864156;1412778960;nubbins`;mircea_popescu maybe if obama had pushed canadacare instead...
864157;1412778969;thickasthieves;i understand the numbers fluffed
864158;1412778978;thickasthieves;but i dont believe they are tripled or such
864159;1412778997;mircea_popescu;not a matter of fluffed or tripled
864160;1412778999;nubbins`;i've bought music through apple
864161;1412779001;mircea_popescu;a matter of, "not your numbers"
864162;1412779002;nubbins`;not much, granted
864163;1412779007;nubbins`;but i've done it
864164;1412779010;nubbins`;wait, shit, sorry.
864165;1412779020;mircea_popescu;like, say, couple next door does A LOT OF FUCKING. so i go over, let's see. well, they're shy now.
864166;1412779037;mircea_popescu;apple sells 25bn songs and if you put one for sale it suddenly gets five views and a candian quarter.
864167;1412779082;Vexual;were all sayin like now? i think we should stop that
864168;1412779096;Vexual;its vulgar
864169;1412779102;mircea_popescu;so what exact problem do you figure "ipoing" will solve ? apple needs your ipo like i need a beard implant.
864170;1412779115;thickasthieves;so youre just commenting on that the pie isnt something you can even take a slice of
864171;1412779123;mircea_popescu;and the non-apples aren't players now nor will they be players ever, that "market" lived its time and is now in the final phase.
864172;1412779130;mircea_popescu;quite.
864173;1412779131;Vexual;beard implant lol
864174;1412779172;thickasthieves;so as the market becomes ultimately centralized, it's demise into decentralized pieces is inevitable, no?
864175;1412779180;mircea_popescu;not in any recognisable format.
864176;1412779190;BingoBoingo;http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/08/134208/systemd-adding-its-own-console-to-linux-systems
864177;1412779191;assbot;Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems - Slashdot
864178;1412779196;mircea_popescu;yes, apple will go bankrupt. yes, the music distribution model of dino de laurentiis will die.
864179;1412779214;mircea_popescu;but it will die at the hands of kids who won't pay for music and the people serving them, who will do essentially stuff like sexy saffron
864180;1412779216;thickasthieves;so no one will by singles nor streaming rights to them ever again?
864181;1412779231;mircea_popescu;it'll re-hash starting from its roots as entertainment, you'll go back to the performer, back to the instrument,
864182;1412779233;mircea_popescu;it's a cycle.
864183;1412779260;thickasthieves;but technology doesnt just remove itself from the equation
864184;1412779265;mircea_popescu;so you think.
864185;1412779284;mircea_popescu;it's a social behaviour, music. technology gets removed out of the equation all the damned time.
864186;1412779310;Vexual;i sure as shit dont pandora or whatever
864187;1412779336;mircea_popescu;;;google katajjaq
864188;1412779337;gribble;Inuit throat singing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Inuit Katajjaq (Throat Singing) - YouTube: ; Katajjaq - YouTube:
864189;1412779353;mircea_popescu;that's your future. a million people all doing a million weird things like ancient inuit "revivals" and so on.
864190;1412779356;mircea_popescu;it's that phase.
864191;1412779358;nubbins`;that was weird.
864192;1412779362;*;nubbins` eyes new RAM suspiciously
864193;1412779399;thickasthieves;yep and nakye west featuring throat-singer selling $10m
864194;1412779420;nubbins`;tanya tagaq?!
864195;1412779426;nubbins`;she won polaris this year
864196;1412779434;thickasthieves;rather $500m, after hyperinflation
864197;1412779447;mats_cd03;i thought the whole thing about kanye and the handicapped folks at his concert was hilarious
864198;1412779451;nubbins`;thickasthieves:so as the market becomes ultimately centralized, it's demise into decentralized pieces is inevitable, no? << uh, this already happened?
864199;1412779457;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves nah listen, these promotion things, are their own promotion thing. take inna, some romanian ex-highschool ho. got promoted for a summer.
864200;1412779461;mircea_popescu;take britney, a fine example.
864201;1412779470;mircea_popescu;these aren't artists and they aren't selling anything.
864202;1412779477;Vexual;$500m? ill use fluffyponys' exclaimation
864203;1412779490;mircea_popescu;it's like imagining the talking heads are the owners of the network. no, they're just hired labour. like the janitors, exactly.
864204;1412779494;mircea_popescu;the network is a different story.
864205;1412779499;thickasthieves;nubbins` well we're left with apple and the streamers still
864206;1412779523;mircea_popescu;yeah , but it's not really music, that
864207;1412779530;mircea_popescu;just like hot topic isn't really social commentary
864208;1412779538;mircea_popescu;it's just packaging, for to sell an actual product.
864209;1412779541;nubbins`;not so. there's a very vibrant music scene here locally as well as nationally. i can listen to this country's best music without ever listening to anything that's signed to a major label
864210;1412779550;thickasthieves;yknow in america, things really are less logical than you guys realize
864211;1412779551;mircea_popescu;nubbins` exactly my point.
864212;1412779564;nubbins`;"music as a product" and "music actual humans with taste listen to" are two completely different things
864213;1412779570;thickasthieves;people pay $10/m to like 3 streaming services just cuz it's affordable and convenient and fuckit
864214;1412779572;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves notrly. they only appear to be, to the people captive.
864215;1412779577;nubbins`;this harkens back to the discussion about art we had some time ago
864216;1412779581;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves but they pay TO THE SERVICES
864217;1412779591;nubbins`;people want to capitalize the M, make it Music (tm) instead of music
864218;1412779592;thickasthieves;yes. i was proposing a service
864219;1412779593;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk
864220;1412779597;mircea_popescu;the "artists" get jack, and the idea that they're selling anything is ludicrous
864221;1412779617;thickasthieves;i wasnt proposing solving the slavery issue of artists
864222;1412779622;nubbins`;protip: artists don't make money selling music, they make money doing everything else related to it but that
864223;1412779633;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves you sounded like you were, at least to me.
864224;1412779636;nubbins`;there's a reason leonard cohen's t-shirts cost more than his albums
864225;1412779637;thickasthieves;i was proposing the service to bitcoinize and decentralization control of purchased music
864226;1412779643;mircea_popescu;so what are you proposing, ways for apple to optimize its being apple ?
864227;1412779649;mircea_popescu;you're in no position to do that, are you now.
864228;1412779660;Vexual;dre made more money off his back cat than his headphones, he just likes new moeny
864229;1412779662;thickasthieves;or ways to bite into apple's apple by being hipper
864230;1412779679;mircea_popescu;lol this is like talking to dank.
864231;1412779680;mircea_popescu;dude.
864232;1412779681;thickasthieves;hip enough to sell out to yc or whatever
864233;1412779684;nubbins`;Vexual dre is an anomaly
864234;1412779694;Vexual;hes boss
864235;1412779702;thickasthieves;ok lets relaz and realize i'm just sharing a thought,
864236;1412779709;thickasthieves;i'm not selling the farm to save music
864237;1412779711;mircea_popescu;nubbins` protip << yeah i said it above too, but somehow it dun stick.
864238;1412779713;nubbins`;he also made more money as a producer than as an artist
864239;1412779727;Vexual;producer=producer
864240;1412779733;nubbins`;you know how much money dick surgery made selling albums?
864241;1412779734;nubbins`;$5
864242;1412779738;thickasthieves;lol
864243;1412779741;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves that's not the problem. the problem is that you're insistent on discussing the topic on insanely unrelated priors.
864244;1412779742;nubbins`;you know how much dick surgery made selling t-shirts?
864245;1412779746;nubbins`;hundreds
864246;1412779753;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you owning the rights, ocourse
864247;1412779756;nubbins`;NATCH
864248;1412779765;mircea_popescu;the fucking point im making to him, already.
864249;1412779776;mircea_popescu;promotion business is a promoter's business. has jack shit to do with music.
864250;1412779781;nubbins`;people have fucked ideas about rights
864251;1412779783;mircea_popescu;they'd be selling aluminum siding just as well if they felt like it
864252;1412779799;Vexual;this cats got the patent too
864253;1412779800;nubbins`;how many times have people paid me to design something, and then ask if it's okay for them to use it for X in the future
864254;1412779804;nubbins`;fucking of course it's okay!!!
864255;1412779809;nubbins`;you paid for it! it's yours!
864256;1412779827;nubbins`;the fact that this surprises people is fucked
864257;1412779831;thickasthieves;u guys never let me just kickstartify decentralizationed ideas anymore
864258;1412779841;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves it's because we love you.
864259;1412779854;nubbins`;;;google coolio library site:bitcointalk.org
864260;1412779854;gribble;The collective Mastercoin-explorer, Mastercoin-ruby and Mastercoin ...: ; The collective Mastercoin-explorer, Mastercoin-ruby ... - Bitcoin Forum: ; About KNCMiner - Bitcoin Forum:
864261;1412779858;nubbins`;bah fuck
864262;1412779872;nubbins`;anyway there was a few jackasses who wanted to buy coolio's back catalogue with btc
864263;1412779875;nubbins`;for some reason
864264;1412779879;mircea_popescu;nubbins` lemme tell you something. i grew up in a world where owning the words was implicit. so i neatly expect any system ever devised to recognise my sovereign right to use any word i fucking choose. period.
864265;1412779884;Vexual;i remeber that
864266;1412779891;mircea_popescu;kids active today grew up in a world of computer game word filters
864267;1412779897;Vexual;i almost said something
864268;1412779901;mircea_popescu;to them it seems fucking natural they may use the words they're licensed to use
864269;1412779911;nubbins`;hear the sounds they're licensed to hear
864270;1412779913;mircea_popescu;and just like that, we can't live in the same world, ever.
864271;1412779923;asciilifeform;pay per click!
864272;1412779936;nubbins`;turns out mouse costumes are cheaper than billy-clubs
864273;1412779937;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1PXRiVoJw its half a good idea
864274;1412779940;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform quite. and speaking of which... anyone's given a look at the internet, recently ?
864275;1412779946;mircea_popescu;the whole thing is like 500 sites, not even 1k
864276;1412779962;mircea_popescu;people who came of age in the 90s imagine this is still that unlimited field of endlessness, and long tails and all that.
864277;1412779963;asciilifeform;a. belayev's 'the air seller.'
864278;1412779963;nubbins`;500 even seems a lot
864279;1412779969;mircea_popescu;forget it. that thing's dead. for years now.
864280;1412779975;asciilifeform;;;google the air seller
864281;1412779976;gribble;The Air Seller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amazon Best Sellers: Best Home Air Purifiers - Amazon.com: ; Amazon Best Sellers: Best Home Heating & Air Conditioning: i think if that were a question on a junior college class - in humanities, mind you - you'd be lucky to get a kid in five spot it. << Ever the optimist
864320;1412780784;mircea_popescu;heh.
864321;1412780918;Vexual;this aint school
864322;1412780933;Vexual;esta real life
864323;1412781000;Vexual;youll only get points for saying something cool if its really fucking cool
864324;1412781023;Vexual;outta sight cool
864325;1412781030;mircea_popescu;and if you don't, they dock ya.
864326;1412781041;Vexual;aint that the truth
864327;1412781164;nubbins`_;and ya don't get to whine
864328;1412781165;mircea_popescu;anyway, thinking about it, i suppose that's the one, true, original classifier. not money nor "knowledge" nor anything else, but simply the contest of what is and what is not obvious.
864329;1412781167;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYfOnQF5S88
864330;1412781171;mircea_popescu;it splits people up into classes.
864331;1412781238;Vexual;ive only reclently reaslised how much i need to explain
864332;1412781276;Vexual;i think i did university wrongly
864333;1412781302;nubbins`;who didn't
864334;1412781541;Vexual;well im sure i never scool any eaasy reader as well as mircea_popescu did
864335;1412781662;Vexual;and i was writing on genetics, so i coulda
864336;1412782020;Vexual;i sat in on law and classics
864337;1412782050;Vexual;critical thought
864338;1412782114;Vexual;i ocassionally mistook cell works for finance
864339;1412782146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 103 @ 0.12577836 = 12.9552 BTC [-] {6}
864340;1412782207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.14949999 = 0.7475 BTC [+] {2}
864341;1412782248;Vexual;but i never lerned nothin like physics
864342;1412782262;Vexual;its the biz
864343;1412782292;Vexual;science of science
864344;1412782368;Vexual;im too old to lurk into lectures now
864345;1412782447;Vexual;but i do it anyway
864346;1412782486;Vexual;i even out my hand up wuth mart arse answers every once in a while
864347;1412782513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00074765 = 10.7288 BTC [+] {2}
864348;1412782549;nubbins`;i thought it was the science of math
864349;1412782552;Vexual;!up diana_coman
864350;1412782558;Vexual;physics?
864351;1412782561;nubbins`;yeah
864352;1412782582;nubbins`;it's all just applied math
864353;1412782583;Vexual;its maths and phiolosphy in a special ball of yummy
864354;1412782594;nubbins`;the philosophy is a step removed, hidden within the math
864355;1412782615;Vexual;yeah its visa vera too
864356;1412782628;Vexual;its where math meets every other science
864357;1412782657;Vexual;what kinda math do you do?
864358;1412782740;Vexual;are you satoshi?
864359;1412782764;nubbins`;what i studied was the branch known as "pure mathematics", which is a bit more on the esoteric side and a bit less on the practical
864360;1412782831;Vexual;practical in astro belive it or not
864361;1412782839;nubbins`;passing down the fundamentals so that others may rest easy that the math they use makes sense, if you will
864362;1412782871;mircea_popescu;!up Sweete__
864363;1412782879;Sweete__;thk:)
864364;1412782915;mircea_popescu;sure.
864365;1412782976;Vexual;hi Sweete__
864366;1412782998;Sweete__;hi
864367;1412783047;Vexual;whats with the __ ??
864368;1412783071;Vexual;you a lowrider or something?
864369;1412783088;Sweete__;ok
864370;1412783098;Vexual;or was sweete taken?
864371;1412783109;Sweete__;taken
864372;1412783110;Sweete__;L(
864373;1412783113;Sweete__;:(
864374;1412783116;Vexual;lol
864375;1412783133;Vexual;whats your story?
864376;1412783147;thickasthieves;we're gonna hit 360 today it seems
864377;1412783152;Sweete__;long story
864378;1412783168;Vexual;werea ll youngish here
864379;1412783181;thickasthieves;and we're all here for the stories
864380;1412783184;Vexual;;;google bitcoinity
864381;1412783184;gribble;0.337 USD/mBTC - Bitcoinity.org: ; Bitcoinity.org: ; Bitcoin prices - Bitcoinity.org:
864382;1412783219;mircea_popescu;one short of leet.
864383;1412783245;diana_coman;I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader
864384;1412783248;nubbins`;i'm here for the focused dialogue
864385;1412783277;Sweete__;350 on stamp
864386;1412783289;thickasthieves;yep, should go down in a min
864387;1412783300;thickasthieves;bad wordchoice
864388;1412783305;Sweete__;yep
864389;1412783306;thickasthieves;the wall will be eaten
864390;1412783353;thickasthieves;sweet__ you daytrade btcusd and/or?
864391;1412783355;mircea_popescu;going down and eating ?
864392;1412783359;Sweete__;same
864393;1412783372;thickasthieves;eat dem walls!
864394;1412783374;thickasthieves;hehe
864395;1412783380;Vexual;mircea_popescu: i wish
864396;1412783431;Vexual;mornin' ben_vulpes
864397;1412783541;thickasthieves;Ben Fox
864398;1412783558;Vexual;;;ticker
864399;1412783559;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 349.92, Best ask: 350.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 351.9, 24 hour volume: 25157.95476558, 24 hour low: 325.79, 24 hour high: 351.9, 24 hour vwap: 336.206253808
864400;1412783567;thickasthieves;I'm John Oak
864401;1412783676;mircea_popescu;better than woody allen...
864402;1412783727;Vexual;better than deep throat
864403;1412783732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 975 @ 0.00061997 = 0.6045 BTC [+] {3}
864404;1412783770;ben_vulpes;morning, vex, thickasthieves, mircea_popescu
864405;1412783771;Vexual;tenny
864406;1412783781;ben_vulpes;ah that's a new one
864407;1412783784;ben_vulpes;what are you doing up so early?
864408;1412783789;nubbins`;so late
864409;1412783792;ben_vulpes;slash late
864410;1412783800;ben_vulpes;so out of your normal cycle
864411;1412783843;TomServo;ben_vulpes nubbins` just noticed you guys have notes waiting on other nicks
864412;1412783861;nubbins`;nothing important, i hope
864413;1412783865;nubbins`;speeling = improtant
864414;1412783886;nubbins`;;;notes nubbins
864415;1412783886;gribble;Sent 6 days, 23 hours, and 15 minutes ago: Got the print. Nice!
864416;1412783899;ben_vulpes;;;notes benkay
864417;1412783899;gribble;Sent 3 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, and 25 minutes ago: I finally wrote the scammer article. http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/everyones-a-scammer/
864418;1412783908;ben_vulpes;everyone writes one
864419;1412783976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 3.53046316 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 307 satoshi per share
864420;1412784100;nubbins`;♪
864421;1412784105;nubbins`;imagine
864422;1412784159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7841 @ 0.0007459 = 5.8486 BTC [-]
864423;1412784201;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.8348731 BTC. Current weight: 64,123.
864424;1412784221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.12183110 BTC to 15`465 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
864425;1412784224;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESgcExetso philipino!
864426;1412784581;Vexual;hey duffer
864427;1412784668;Duffer1;hey man
864428;1412784815;Vexual;got any treasure for me?
864429;1412784836;Vexual;i need a fucking mission
864430;1412784861;Duffer1;i wish man :(
864431;1412785016;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alNxLjCBJc
864432;1412785151;Duffer1;ha
864433;1412785241;ben_vulpes;Vexual: what do you do with yourself anyways?
864434;1412785264;Vexual;i generally work in managerial positions
864435;1412785382;ben_vulpes;o.O
864436;1412785395;Vexual;yeah don't ask coz i dunno
864437;1412785485;Vexual;grave robbing, trading, all the fun stuff
864438;1412785512;nubbins`;http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/08/spanish-nurse-says-she-has-no-idea-how-she-got-ebola-as-her-family-fights-for-their-dogs-life/
864439;1412785512;assbot;Spanish nurse with Ebola may have touched her face with a glove - The Washington Post
864440;1412785521;nubbins`;"It's not that the suits fail; it's that people fail when they take it off."
864441;1412785526;Vexual;she may well ahve
864442;1412785535;Vexual;no shit
864443;1412785559;Vexual;you don't fuck about with ebola
864444;1412785591;Vexual;its sad
864445;1412785618;Vexual;the sadder thin is they aren't quarantining the people she met
864446;1412785641;Vexual;you only get one chance to stop that shit
864447;1412785718;nubbins`;well they're gonna kill her dog, that's something
864448;1412785724;Vexual;dead
864449;1412785725;asciilifeform;obola must spread - orders from ebama.
864450;1412785730;Vexual;already
864451;1412785743;Vexual;lol youre typing like me ascii
864452;1412785958;Vexual;whole crew is here
864453;1412785993;Vexual;how long til you're dining on roo pete?
864454;1412786071;pete_dushenski;Vexual: 2 months :)
864455;1412786105;pete_dushenski;so now i'm not so sure which gavin is the real gavin on contravex...
864456;1412786111;Vexual;wow, full price tickets
864457;1412786128;pete_dushenski;compare http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30333 and http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-29533
864458;1412786129;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
864459;1412786129;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
864460;1412786131;Vexual;lol
864461;1412786167;Vexual;diff
864462;1412786173;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00074526 = 39.2007 BTC [-] {2}
864463;1412786177;pete_dushenski;different fucking email addresses, different fucking website urls
864464;1412786222;Vexual;im thinking of getting some stamps in my passport, asny suggestions?
864465;1412786279;pete_dushenski;somalia
864466;1412786287;Vexual;really?
864467;1412786289;pete_dushenski;i hear it's a country
864468;1412786306;Vexual;dont be a wank hole
864469;1412786365;Vexual;i dont want to get on a terrorist list
864470;1412786416;mats_cd03;depends what you want to do
864471;1412786420;Vexual;cheeky fucker
864472;1412786437;mats_cd03;want to join the global jihad?
864473;1412786441;nubbins`;if you float down the rio tambopata in peru they will give you a special stamp
864474;1412786444;Vexual;i was thinkinking learning russian
864475;1412786447;pete_dushenski;Vexual what makes you think you aren't already?
864476;1412786455;nubbins`;there's a lodge run by a french lady about 3 hours out of puerto maldonado
864477;1412786457;Vexual;oh i am
864478;1412786462;pete_dushenski;so
864479;1412786476;Vexual;so dont tell me 2 months
864480;1412786481;pete_dushenski;it's not like they're going to write you name in pen now
864481;1412786505;Vexual;fart you
864482;1412786514;pete_dushenski;;)
864483;1412786518;Vexual;:)
864484;1412786521;thickasthieves;vexual well what kinda places do you like?
864485;1412786537;Vexual;i like spicy food
864486;1412786546;Vexual;and crazy people
864487;1412786556;thickasthieves;brazil?
864488;1412786557;Vexual;or vodka
864489;1412786595;Vexual;yeah they tend to sit if cafs and play monopoly
864490;1412786606;Vexual;ive been there
864491;1412786610;thickasthieves;word
864492;1412786616;thickasthieves;visit mp
864493;1412786629;Vexual;no ne is scary
864494;1412786646;Vexual;and wed have nothing to talk about
864495;1412786656;thickasthieves;lol
864496;1412786666;Vexual;i havent read evry book
864497;1412786676;thickasthieves;he'd be glad to explain them to you
864498;1412786799;pete_dushenski;spicy food + crazy people = jamaica
864499;1412786829;Vexual;bankok is closer
864500;1412786919;pete_dushenski;sri lanka too
864501;1412786952;mircea_popescu;jamaica is al sluts i hear
864502;1412786973;pete_dushenski;"I have never owned much Bitcoin. I give away or spend what I buy. I am not a hoarder of Bitcoin. I don’t care about that aspect of Bitcoin, although many (most?) do. I care about it as programmable money."
864503;1412786989;Vexual;oh sluts is good
864504;1412786995;pete_dushenski;http://avc.com/2014/10/bitcoin-price-and-promise/
864505;1412786995;assbot;Bitcoin – Price and Promise AVC
864506;1412787015;pete_dushenski;^fred wilson
864507;1412787091;Vexual;never bin srilanka
864508;1412787127;pete_dushenski;me neither, nor do i even know anyone who has.
864509;1412787325;pete_dushenski;https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/519893536024829954
864510;1412787327;assbot;Compare http://t.co/0O9eSXI6c9 and http://t.co/SRrLv5suZH. Now will the real /gavinandresen please stand up? Lol comments need PGP sigs...
864511;1412787327;Vexual;yes, fuck islam, i'll go to heaven with all the sluts
864512;1412787349;Vexual;whos go with virgins anyway?
864513;1412787453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20907 @ 0.00074361 = 15.5467 BTC [-] {2}
864514;1412787457;thickasthieves;fred wilson, bullwhale
864515;1412787559;Vexual;i mean, seriously, c'mon
864516;1412787633;Vexual;indonesia
864517;1412787679;Vexual;i speak the lingo and they'll keep me sober
864518;1412787765;Vexual;and theres a direct flight to moscow if i want a oroper city
864519;1412787853;punkman;Vexual: been to istanbul?
864520;1412787875;Vexual;no
864521;1412787888;Vexual;ive prolly flown over
864522;1412787925;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGF_0AcHaGs
864523;1412787949;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how about wild boar ? << best dish i had in lithuania was wild boar. paired with pears!
864524;1412788004;Vexual;sounds french
864525;1412788034;pete_dushenski;it was vilnian like a villain
864526;1412788084;thickasthieves;indonesia wants dem free bitcoins http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=free%20bitcoin&date=1%2F2014%2012m&cmpt=q
864527;1412788085;assbot;Google Trends
864528;1412788118;Vexual;bali got a fuckton from oldmate
864529;1412788151;Vexual;well.75 of a ton
864530;1412788166;Vexual;a reasonable fuck
864531;1412788246;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7593 @ 0.00074288 = 5.6407 BTC [-]
864532;1412788276;BingoBoingo;http://weev.livejournal.com/409913.html
864533;1412788277;assbot;weev: "Women in tech", doxing, Kathy Sierra, and the koolaid. #gamergate #adainitiative #histrionics
864534;1412788413;asciilifeform;i still don't grok 'doxing'
864535;1412788422;asciilifeform;how do you 'dox' people unless there's dirt ?
864536;1412788469;Vexual;well you give a name and adress
864537;1412788493;Vexual;documents, not dirt
864538;1412788520;Vexual;it is what it is
864539;1412788537;Vexual;oh you dont like it? me nmeither
864540;1412788600;mats_cd03;'dox' broadly means making people vulnerable to democratic violence
864541;1412788605;Vexual;anywy, imma see what jamaica is like
864542;1412788641;Vexual;or somewhere else
864543;1412788641;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: People like to imagine all pseudonyms are hard even though there's a difference on the scale of Dr. Seuss to Deep Throat
864544;1412788645;asciilifeform;so i imagine there's an implication of incitement of lynch mob, not merely 'mr x lives on 123 fuckme street, ny.' etc ?
864545;1412788696;mats_cd03;yes
864546;1412788706;mats_cd03;as well as vulnerability to things like swatting
864547;1412788737;mats_cd03;some corporations are also known to allow purchase orders with charge on delivery
864548;1412788766;BingoBoingo;Like pizza companis
864549;1412788770;mats_cd03;dox can make it feasible to dump piles of e.g. office supplies
864550;1412788787;mats_cd03;and then force that individual to engage in legal proceedings or whathaveyou
864551;1412788814;mats_cd03;doxing someone can be devastating if they have assets.
864552;1412788864;asciilifeform;all of this works solely because scarcely anyone pulls the trick.
864553;1412788871;asciilifeform;as described in recent mircea_popescu post
864554;1412788904;mats_cd03;the day is nigh.
864555;1412788992;BingoBoingo;!up X-Rob
864556;1412789008;X-Rob;Morning BingoBoingo
864557;1412789016;BingoBoingo;Morning Rob
864558;1412789222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00074766 = 13.0467 BTC [+] {2}
864559;1412789778;pete_dushenski;http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30431
864560;1412789779;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
864561;1412789795;pete_dushenski;^my reply to the other "gavin"
864562;1412789814;pete_dushenski;those duplicitous derps...
864563;1412789934;mircea_popescu;!up jacoblyles
864564;1412789989;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how do you 'dox' people unless there's dirt ? << there's a lot you don't know.
864565;1412789993;mircea_popescu;;;google PW:RN
864566;1412789993;gribble;Anita Somplasky, RN CHTS-CP CHTS-PW | LinkedIn: ; Susan C. Benfield RN, BA CHTS-CP, CHTS-PW | LinkedIn: ; USGS Professional Pages - Paul Seelbach:
864567;1412790019;mircea_popescu;there's this innate "fear", i suppose, among the primitive, illiterate hordes as to the magical power of names.
864568;1412790020;BingoBoingo;http://drugs.gawker.com/have-you-ever-been-too-high-to-lie-1643086212 << Too high to lie defense
864569;1412790021;assbot;Have You Ever Been Too High to Lie?
864570;1412790028;mircea_popescu;because that's how shamanic "thinking" works.
864571;1412790047;mircea_popescu;and since the result of libertard "education" is an unprecedented headcount of illiterate cattle all over the west...
864572;1412790054;asciilifeform;;;google true names and other dangers
864573;1412790055;gribble;True Names...and Other Dangers: Vernor Vinge: 9780671653637 ...: ; True Names - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; True Names... and Other Dangers by Vernor Vinge — Reviews ...:
864574;1412790060;asciilifeform;^ original turd on the subject
864575;1412790060;mircea_popescu;there you go. saying someone's name is a potentially dangerous, magical activity.
864576;1412790071;mircea_popescu;fucking natives, these people.
864577;1412790083;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform quite.
864578;1412790103;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's because you have canadiancare, which is really just nationalised obamacare. you're socialists over there, not like the true capitalists down south. that's why. << better this way. both losses and profits are socialized unlike tbtf american cos.
864579;1412790138;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski i was being very very facetious
864580;1412790179;pete_dushenski;lolk
864581;1412790189;mircea_popescu;o look, ed went to shit meanwhile. anyway, they had a decent article on this power word : real name thing, a decade ago
864582;1412790215;asciilifeform;https://worldtracker.org/media/library/English%20Literature/V/Vinge,%20Vernor/Vernor%20Vinge%20-%20True%20Names.pdf
864583;1412790349;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so in the end, it turns out you did know it, just, didn't realise how stupid the average derp is ?
864584;1412790365;asciilifeform;'In the once upon a time days of the First Age of Magic, the prudent sorcerer regarded his own true name as his most valued possession but also the greatest threat to his continued good health, for -- the stories go -- once an enemy, even a weak unskilled enemy, learned the sorcerer's true name, then routine and widely known spells could destroy or enslave even the most powerful. As times passed, and we graduat
864585;1412790365;asciilifeform;ed to the Age of Reason and thence to the first and second industrial revolutions, such notions were discredited. Now it seems that the Wheel has turned full circle (even if there never really was a First Age) and we are back to worrying about true names again...'
864586;1412790403;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this requires special modes of thought - like reasoning about how small is electron, or how large - galaxy
864587;1412790426;mircea_popescu;except they're not modes of thought, they're modes of feeling.
864588;1412790434;mircea_popescu;anyone spending enough time daydreaming develops them
864589;1412790455;mircea_popescu;this in stark opposition with thought, where simply spending time doing addition does not automatically qualify one for analysis say
864590;1412790467;*;asciilifeform has only a simple four-bit feelings register (sloth, avarice, lust, wrath)
864591;1412790483;mircea_popescu;that's two bit.
864592;1412790492;asciilifeform;no, four.
864593;1412790493;jurov;ever had all 4 set?
864594;1412790499;asciilifeform;can set any combo.
864595;1412790504;mircea_popescu;wait you can have them concurrent ?
864596;1412790508;asciilifeform;sure.
864597;1412790510;mircea_popescu;how's slotful lust ?
864598;1412790522;asciilifeform;you of all people should know
864599;1412790528;mircea_popescu;"if i could be bothered to stand up i'd bugger you" ?
864600;1412790553;asciilifeform;that'd be just 'sloth' bit
864601;1412790575;mircea_popescu;isn;'t the sloth merely "if i could be bothered to stand up" ?
864602;1412790578;asciilifeform;with just gate noise of 'lust'
864603;1412790584;mircea_popescu;aha
864604;1412790613;nubbins`;<+mircea_popescu> how's slotful lust ? <+asciilifeform> you of all people should know <<< my sides
864605;1412790614;mircea_popescu;"i'm too lazy to go out and pick something up so i'ma troll livejournal for gmaxwell's girlfriend" ?
864606;1412790639;mircea_popescu;shit my client automatically expands wikiwhale to gmaxwell's girlfriend ;/
864607;1412790705;mircea_popescu; ever had all 4 set? << this'd be interesting.
864608;1412790833;nubbins`;speaking of all 4 sets, the mint sent me an email
864609;1412790838;nubbins`;1 sec
864610;1412790854;nubbins`;not available to public yet, gotta screenshot
864611;1412790932;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/iQWF6MQ.png
864612;1412790953;nubbins`;minted by -- no kidding -- the country of Niue
864613;1412790993;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: kids active today grew up in a world of computer game word filters << different is bad and not nice and trolling and mysogyracist! poor fucking kids...
864614;1412791018;pete_dushenski;nubbins`: neat
864615;1412791040;nubbins`;neat indeed. pretty fuckin costly for 1oz of silver in a plastic box tho
864616;1412791110;pete_dushenski;but… pnumanism!
864617;1412791127;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/v6m9yTy.png
864618;1412791145;nubbins`;actually lame as shit irl
864619;1412791247;mircea_popescu;kinda lame yeah.
864620;1412791254;mircea_popescu;pocket protectors included ?
864621;1412791277;nubbins`;right?
864622;1412791295;nubbins`;(C) 1935, 2013 HASBRO
864623;1412791299;nubbins`;"cool coin, man"
864624;1412791328;nubbins`;"they really licensed the shit out of that logo"
864625;1412791366;pete_dushenski;ben_vulpes: everyone writes one << everyone with a blog and a brain.
864626;1412791495;thestringpuller;"i still have no idea what y.all are talking about.
864627;1412791495;thestringpuller;You do know that no matter how large the block, only the 80-byte block header is hashed?
864628;1412791498;thestringpuller;If you are just trolling, then kudos, you got my attention for about three minutes."
864629;1412791523;thestringpuller;How does the chief scientist not realize increasing block size increases burden on full nodes?
864630;1412791640;nubbins`;such comment, many vitriol
864631;1412791659;nubbins`;thestringpuller any satisfaction with usps?
864632;1412791923;mthreat;mircea_popescu: coffee chat today - Igor (the baexpat forum owner) will be there. http://baexpats.org/topic/31648-coffee-chat-wed-8-oct-2014-4-7pm-barrio-norte/
864633;1412791924;assbot;Coffee Chat - Wed 8 Oct 2014, 4-7Pm (Barrio Norte) - Expat Events - Buenos Aires Expats Group
864634;1412791953;mthreat;mircea_popescu: in case you want to confront him about bitcoin posts on the forum (that seemed to be filtered at one point)
864635;1412792037;pete_dushenski;thestringpuller: o gavin knows very well.
864636;1412792051;pete_dushenski;he's just playing it up for the crowd.
864637;1412792097;pete_dushenski;very much like a magician who distracts the crowd with a joke or a pretty lady while the trap door opens.
864638;1412792131;pete_dushenski;;;ticker
864639;1412792133;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 345.57, Best ask: 345.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 345.57, 24 hour volume: 26823.95596431, 24 hour low: 325.79, 24 hour high: 354.18, 24 hour vwap: 339.577546866
864640;1412792697;thestringpuller;nubbins`: not yet I gotta go to the local office today once I feel like not being lazy and get some real clothes on.
864641;1412792714;thestringpuller;!up go1111111
864642;1412792721;thestringpuller;;;ident
864643;1412792721;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
864644;1412792734;nubbins`;!down thestringpuller
864645;1412792737;nubbins`;my sides
864646;1412792811;thestringpuller;!up go1111111
864647;1412792837;go1111111;thestringpuller: Gavin surely knows that it adds some burden on full nodes, but the point is that it's a trivial amount. engineering is about tradeoffs and the thing being traded off against increasing the block size is miniscule
864648;1412792863;BingoBoingo;go1111111: 50% a year is non-trivial
864649;1412792882;go1111111;regarding CPU power, the ASICS that are doing the hashing are not the same resource that would add a transaction. a general CPU would be doing that, which would otherwise be sitting idle
864650;1412792899;thestringpuller;mining isn't the issue
864651;1412792904;BingoBoingo;go1111111: I'm talking bandwidth
864652;1412792906;nubbins`;what specifically is the issue
864653;1412792907;thestringpuller;it's the decentralization of full nodes
864654;1412792914;nubbins`;1TB hard drives not cheap enough for ya?
864655;1412792929;thestringpuller;the higher bandwidth necessary to run a full node over time T will force the centralization of nodes
864656;1412792932;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Keeping full nodes in sync
864657;1412792942;go1111111;BingoBoingo: yes, bandwidth is the thing to be genuinely concerned about
864658;1412792956;thestringpuller;so then why up 50% a year and not leave the block size alone?
864659;1412792959;nubbins`;how about some hard numbers? what sort of bandwidth are you guys talking about?
864660;1412792971;thestringpuller;if you want a tx to get in the block add a fucking fee and pay for the nice thing you've been given
864661;1412792990;BingoBoingo; if you want a tx to get in the block add a fucking fee and pay for the nice thing you've been given << This
864662;1412793017;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Gavin hasn't proposed a hard number where he wants to start 50% annual increases from.
864663;1412793022;thestringpuller;;;google average bandwidth in north america
864664;1412793023;gribble;Netflix Remains King of Bandwidth Usage, While YouTube Declines ...: ; Report: Average U.S. Broadband Prices Are Below World Average ...: ; Measuring Broadband America - February 2013 | FCC.gov: (1 more message)
864665;1412793044;go1111111;thestringpuller: many people see the potential for Bitcoin to replace much of the global financial infrastructure. i know people in this channel prefer Bitcoin to be a gold-replacement, but if it was able to do a lot more, it'd be pretty awesome
864666;1412793055;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: okay, so when people say "bandwidth is the thing to be concerned about", do they have numbers in mind or is just a wank?
864667;1412793069;thestringpuller;go1111111: now you're off topic.
864668;1412793072;nubbins`;why am i asking you?
864669;1412793075;Apocalyptic;go1111111, doing 1 thing pretty good is plenty enough
864670;1412793078;nubbins`;go1111111: do you have numbers in mind or is it just a wank?
864671;1412793104;Apocalyptic;but if it was able to do a lot more, it'd be pretty awesome // what is it with people always wanting the same thing to "do a lot more" ?
864672;1412793123;nubbins`;Apocalyptic it worked for bucky
864673;1412793138;go1111111;thestringpuller: you're asking "why up 50% a year?". my reply directly addressed that. Gavin has a different idea of where he wants Bitcoin to go, and it requires lots of transaction processing capability
864674;1412793153;thestringpuller;so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc
864675;1412793186;nubbins`;you're just throwing random numbers together in a sentence
864676;1412793205;thestringpuller;go1111111: you can do that without forcing centralization due to resource scarcity...
864677;1412793212;nubbins`;nobody's talking about average internet speed increasing by 50% a year
864678;1412793229;thestringpuller;he's talking about block size going up 50% a year because of bandwidth "doubling" every year
864679;1412793232;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: It's an assumption Gavin takes into account
864680;1412793241;thestringpuller;nubbins`: ^
864681;1412793251;nubbins`;okay, sure. seems like a fair assumption
864682;1412793258;nubbins`;i've been sitting on 50mbit for a couple years now
864683;1412793273;nubbins`;this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it?
864684;1412793280;thestringpuller;it is
864685;1412793286;thestringpuller;US average bandwidth is 10Mbit
864686;1412793292;nubbins`;note that usa is not a first world country
864687;1412793297;thestringpuller;OKAY
864688;1412793302;nubbins`;this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it?
864689;1412793304;thestringpuller;I'll give you that
864690;1412793325;nubbins`;how much bandwidth does a full node chew right now?
864691;1412793325;thestringpuller;So you want to centralize all the full nodes to first world countries?
864692;1412793336;nubbins`;thestringpuller: you want to stop it?
864693;1412793350;nubbins`;o noes, somalia can't run a full node
864694;1412793367;go1111111;thestringpuller: Bitcoin still could be extremely decentralized if full nodes were limited to 1st world countries
864695;1412793393;nubbins`;^
864696;1412793419;thestringpuller;very possibly, but that still doesn't solve the issue of forcing more burden on the full nodes.
864697;1412793440;thestringpuller;starting a full node as of now isn't trivial. ask BingoBoingo how long it took to start one from scratch as of this summer.
864698;1412793480;nubbins`;BingoBoingo, how long did it take you to start a node from scratch as of this summer?
864699;1412793481;go1111111;most of the burden now is that it's very cumbersome, not that the resources required are expensive
864700;1412793496;go1111111;that's a software issue
864701;1412793532;nubbins`;so to run a full node, you'd be expected to dick around with software a little bit and have a first-world internet connection
864702;1412793536;nubbins`;imagine, the horror
864703;1412793590;chetty;internet is pretty darn good most places, only place I ever had much of an issue the deserts of Egypt
864704;1412793605;nubbins`;so there goes that argument
864705;1412793613;nubbins`;why precisely are we whining about block size?
864706;1412793673;Apocalyptic;nubbins`, you're actually in favour of the increase ?
864707;1412793679;thestringpuller;i'm almost certain if you increase the blocksize to great too soon, full nodes will drop off...
864708;1412793688;nubbins`;Apocalyptic i'm trying to figure out why everyone has their dicks in a knot about it. nobody seems to know.
864709;1412793689;thestringpuller;just like when diff goes too high miners drop off
864710;1412793713;nubbins`;no, when diff goes high miners upgrade
864711;1412793719;thestringpuller;not always!
864712;1412793720;nubbins`;children with mining hardware drop off
864713;1412793737;thestringpuller;they are the first but not the last
864714;1412793746;nubbins`;why in the fuck would someone turn off their node over a block size increase?
864715;1412793786;nubbins`;it doesn't make sensr
864716;1412793804;thestringpuller;because it consumes too many resources as is.
864717;1412793810;nubbins`;"my cpu, disk space, bandwidth are still orders of magnitude more than what this requires... better pull the plug over ideological reasons"
864718;1412793824;nubbins`;bullshit it does
864719;1412793833;Apocalyptic;for one it removes the upper linear bound on the storage space needed to store the whole chain
864720;1412793843;thestringpuller;my full node runs on a computer circa 2004, it barely can chug.
864721;1412793863;thestringpuller;lets take a look at top and see what bitcoind is consuming
864722;1412793873;thestringpuller;oh wow 2 gigs of memory
864723;1412793893;go1111111;so you're saying it's more like "I'm going to stop mining now because maybe in 10 years mining will be unprofitable, depending on the trajectory of computer resource costs"
864724;1412793912;go1111111;mining = running a full node, i mean
864725;1412793934;Apocalyptic;nubbins`, the blocksize limit also incudes a lot of economic consequences regarding transactions and fees
864726;1412794051;thestringpuller;go1111111: well. consider you are mining now at negative profit margins because diff is too high. You can upgrade and go further into the hole and hope to god you make your money back. Or you can cut your losses and move on with your life.
864727;1412794119;go1111111;smaller blocksizes tend to increase the fee required to get in a block. lower fees seem preferable. the only case i can see where you wouldn't want smaller fees is when network security was based heavily on fees, but that won't be the case for a while
864728;1412794154;thestringpuller;again if you want nice things you need to pay for them...
864729;1412794162;Apocalyptic;^
864730;1412794180;thestringpuller;what is all this socialist shit..."free stuff I didn't work for"
864731;1412794212;nubbins`;"poor people should be able to run a node"
864732;1412794221;thestringpuller;I never said that!
864733;1412794243;nubbins`;nobody did :D
864734;1412794250;go1111111;the problem is that having small blocksizes and high fees doesn't actually make anything nicer for anyone. that's what nubbins and I have been arguing. the extra "niceness" you want is a trivial savings in abundant computer resources
864735;1412794274;nubbins`;maybe you need a computer that was built after 2004 if you want to run a node
864736;1412794276;nubbins`;it's not a lot to ask
864737;1412794286;thestringpuller;It isn't. But when does it stop?
864738;1412794292;nubbins`;it doesn't
864739;1412794298;thestringpuller;Then we need computers build specifically for full nodes?
864740;1412794304;nubbins`;eventually
864741;1412794312;thestringpuller;Then only certain individuals can run full nodes?
864742;1412794317;nubbins`;already this is the case
864743;1412794337;thestringpuller;For mining perhaps (capital expenditure) but not for full nodes, which is a more frightening scenario...
864744;1412794358;nubbins`;yes, for full nodes. do you have any idea how many people in the world don't have a "spare computer"?
864745;1412794386;thestringpuller;as of now you can run a full node on a raspberry pi with a 30 USD external storage medium
864746;1412794421;nubbins`;and eventually you'll need a raspberry pi 2.0 with a 30 usd external storage medium that has 2x the capacity
864747;1412794451;thestringpuller;yes but if the block size increases too rapidly eventually only certain hardware can run it.
864748;1412794458;nubbins`;so?
864749;1412794467;thestringpuller;this forces centralization no?
864750;1412794499;*;nubbins` groans
864751;1412794512;thestringpuller;:D
864752;1412794520;go1111111;thestringpuller: not if that special hardware is always below a certain cost threshold
864753;1412794553;nubbins`;"centralization", what does it mean? can you quantify it?
864754;1412794562;nubbins`;"decentralization bad, centralization good"
864755;1412794570;nubbins`;"analog bad, digital good... or was it the other way.."
864756;1412794593;thestringpuller;centralization = "full nodes controlled by single entities"
864757;1412794597;nubbins`;there needs to be a minimum, yes? an abacus is infeasible?
864758;1412794606;thestringpuller;exactly.
864759;1412794613;nubbins`;so what's the minimum?
864760;1412794632;nubbins`;a piece of shit computer you can find in a junkyard?
864761;1412794651;thestringpuller;minimum in terms of nodes running is what I'm getting at.
864762;1412794652;nubbins`;yeah, let's put the brakes on everything so you can help "contribute"
864763;1412794667;nubbins`;is a 1ghz pentium too much of a burden?
864764;1412794675;thestringpuller;XD
864765;1412794710;nubbins`;you see what i'm saying? a couple years from now you'll buy an octo-core w/ 32gb ram for $500
864766;1412794729;nubbins`;running a full node on a fucking pentium 1ghz like an asshole
864767;1412794732;Naphex;well you can scale nodes anyway
864768;1412794749;nubbins`;maybe we should make it so a TI-83 can run a full node
864769;1412794759;nubbins`;ultimate decentralization, that must be automatically good, right?
864770;1412794783;Apocalyptic;nubbins`, you're perverting the argument
864771;1412794794;thestringpuller;"Seeing how the earlier discussion actually neglected to mention a perfectly valid alternative avenue to evaluate the idiocy of this proposal, consider that the main (really, in practical terms the only) vulnerability of Bitcoin at the moment is that while miners are rewarded for mining, relayers are not rewarded for relaying. This is a sore oversight on the part of Satoshi, privately admitted at that, and unfort
864772;1412794800;thestringpuller;USGavin's proposal consists of significantly increasing the burden on the full nodes, while doing nothing to address the actual problem threatening Bitcoin. This, of course, is not the direction a responsible head of a FOSS project steers things. It is however the exact direction a puppet of Microsoft tries to steer a standards discussion."
864773;1412794866;Naphex;whats with all this burden on full nodes
864774;1412794887;fluffypony;such burden
864775;1412794891;Naphex;56 day running bitcoind/ Standalone / Max 500 connections
864776;1412794907;Naphex;RX: 56.5 GB TX 117.7
864777;1412794915;Naphex;load average: 0.30, 0.34, 0.33
864778;1412794925;thestringpuller;damn a gig a day?
864779;1412794931;nubbins`;thestringpuller: tyvm, first thought-out argument i've read yet
864780;1412794935;Naphex;running on Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2640 v2 @ 2.00GHz x2 / 32 Cores
864781;1412794944;thestringpuller;nubbins`: that's mircea_popescu via qntra
864782;1412794952;BingoBoingo;nubbins` A while, but on low power hardware
864783;1412794959;thestringpuller;nubbins`: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/
864784;1412794960;assbot;Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
864785;1412794973;Naphex;i use this as a "supernode" to p2p connect to the network, and use local nodes to scale
864786;1412794986;Naphex;the localnodes, hardly ever pop 0.03 on avg
864787;1412794992;Naphex;since the supernode will filter most of the junk
864788;1412794996;nubbins`;why is the header of the website as ugly as possible?
864789;1412795003;thestringpuller;Naphex: interesting. do local nodes store the blockchain or access it via network?
864790;1412795007;nubbins`;srsly, bright blue text on grey bg
864791;1412795012;Naphex;thestringpuller: they store it
864792;1412795018;nubbins`;you guys and your normcore style
864793;1412795024;Naphex;they just don't p2p connect to the network and only connect to a master node
864794;1412795027;Naphex;for updates
864795;1412795052;thestringpuller;ah.
864796;1412795060;thestringpuller;so you point them directly to the supernode regardless of location?
864797;1412795079;Naphex;yes
864798;1412795113;thestringpuller;interesting model
864799;1412795128;Naphex;thestringpuller: there is a lot of wasted CPU Time
864800;1412795132;Naphex;on nodes processing junk
864801;1412795139;Naphex;double spends, dust, etc
864802;1412795151;thestringpuller;same here
864803;1412795158;mircea_popescu;mthreat mmm where is it ?
864804;1412795166;Naphex;the supernode fillters all that out, and sends clean to slaves
864805;1412795218;mircea_popescu; he's just playing it up for the crowd. << that, pretty much. like any pundit/hired "tech support", he's got his talking points and he's going to talk the points.
864806;1412795225;mircea_popescu;"please reboot your computer".
864807;1412795255;Naphex;thestringpuller: load avg on the slavenode would drop around 10x, so thats a lot
864808;1412795267;mircea_popescu; thestringpuller: Gavin surely knows that it adds some burden on full nodes, but the point is that it's a trivial amount. engineering is about tradeoffs and the thing being traded off against increasing the block size is miniscule << increasing the block size is NOT a gain. it's a loss.
864809;1412795271;mthreat;Le Blé, at French 2999
864810;1412795272;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is here to protect against inflation.
864811;1412795281;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ^
864812;1412795285;mircea_popescu;blocksize is a scarce resource. increasing it is not helping, it's hindering.
864813;1412795315;mircea_popescu;and engineering is NOT "about tradeoffs". politics is about tradeoff, and gavin has zero mandate or political authority
864814;1412795331;mircea_popescu;engineering is about doing things, and gavin has a vanishingly small ability in that field, also.
864815;1412795339;mircea_popescu;so : a poor engineer with political delusions.
864816;1412795380;mircea_popescu;mthreat what time is this ?
864817;1412795433;mthreat;4-7pm
864818;1412795463;mthreat;i can't go myself.. but michelle's there and some others
864819;1412795493;mircea_popescu;yeah, im not making it that early. wouldnt mind asking the guy a few q's but whatevs.
864820;1412795508;Apocalyptic; blocksize is a scarce resource. // and it should remain so, precisely
864821;1412795514;nubbins`;A new Inital maximum block size such that a full node may be run by "somebody with a current, reasonably fast computer and Internet connection, running an up-to-date version of Bitcoin Core and willing to dedicate half their CPU power and bandwidth to Bitcoin."
864822;1412795523;mircea_popescu;go1111111: the problem is that having small blocksizes and high fees doesn't actually make anything nicer for anyone. <<< and who told you this ?
864823;1412795529;nubbins`;that *is* a bit of a burden for no reward aside from a fuzzy feeling, hey?
864824;1412795546;Naphex;nubbins`: storage is not that much of a problem as CPU Time
864825;1412795560;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic nubbins` no dude, because gonobody and usgavin have made decisions and tradeoffs dontchaknow.
864826;1412795561;BingoBoingo;!up go1111111
864827;1412795562;Naphex;lots of CPUTime on bitcoind might force for standalone bitcoind servers
864828;1412795564;nubbins`;half yr bandwidth too!
864829;1412795580;Naphex;i only care about CPUTime, everything else is really distant
864830;1412795587;mircea_popescu;also, nobody is acutally running "bitcoin core"
864831;1412795618;mircea_popescu;after the "let's fork bitcoin for fun" and the "let's put heardbleed in your software" disasters, you'd have to be insane to run anything coming from vessenes' merry band of scammers.
864832;1412795640;nubbins`;what're the big pools running anyway, i wonder
864833;1412795645;mircea_popescu;"up to date" indeed.
864834;1412795698;BingoBoingo;!up mechtronic2001
864835;1412795702;mircea_popescu;go1111111: BingoBoingo: yes, bandwidth is the thing to be genuinely concerned about << you don't get to separate your better's concerns into genuine and less genuine, fuckface.
864836;1412795705;Naphex;mircea_popescu: so yeah, i haven't found anything even close to stable as bitcoind :)
864837;1412795707;mircea_popescu;jesus the gall of these people.
864838;1412795734;go1111111;mircea_popescu: I don't see the usefulness if high fees, except as a means to secure the network. but fees will be a small portion of the reward to miners for a while. low fees enable transactions to occur that would otherwise be too costly, eliminating deadweight loss
864839;1412795740;BingoBoingo;Naphex: Older patched Bitcoind?
864840;1412795747;mircea_popescu;i don';t giuve a shit what usefullness you see or don't see.
864841;1412795754;mircea_popescu;who told you your brain may arbiter in this matter ?
864842;1412795810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00074773 = 12.1506 BTC [+]
864843;1412795838;mechtronic2001;Would this be a proper channel to post my btcjam funding page. It would be an investment, but I don't want to step on toes here.
864844;1412795856;mircea_popescu;mechtronic2001 it'd be a pretty horrible place seeing how btcjam isn't too well regarded.
864845;1412795869;mircea_popescu;!s btcjam
864846;1412795870;assbot;80 results for 'btcjam' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=btcjam
864847;1412795879;mircea_popescu;you're better served by going through the logs as relevant to your interest.
864848;1412795896;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> i don';t giuve a shit what usefullness you see or don't see. << another contender for the b-a tagline :)
864849;1412795898;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-09-2014#829294
864850;1412795899;assbot;Logged on 15-09-2014 14:33:56; nubbins`: his btcjam profile has two "recommendations" from friends. the second one commences thus:
864851;1412795922;mircea_popescu;mike_c no but really, "i don't see". let's all go to the hospital and start derping, "i don't see why i'd have to take my clothes off"
864852;1412795932;mircea_popescu;because that's how everything works in this world, it's reddit out here.
864853;1412795974;go1111111;if there are good arguments for high fees i'm curious to be linked to them or hear them. possibly my preference for low fees is as dumb as you're claiming, but it'd be interesting to know why you think that
864854;1412795976;mike_c;yes, this is not kindergarten. unfortunately there still is no good bitcoin kindergarten.
864855;1412795983;mircea_popescu;einstein never got the damned formula out because luce irigaray didn't see why he'd privilege the speed of light over other speeds that are so much more important to us. and so on.
864856;1412795986;Apocalyptic;go1111111, dude it's not just about the fees
864857;1412795998;mircea_popescu;go1111111 the arguments for a limited b lock size are the same as the arguments for a limited currency base.
864858;1412796004;Apocalyptic;the blocksize limit is essentially tied to what bitcoin is, even if you can't see it
864859;1412796007;mircea_popescu;amusinglky enough, the arguments against either are also the same.
864860;1412796027;mircea_popescu;yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place, and apply the inflationary economy it's ran off from here
864861;1412796038;mircea_popescu;to "something else" that's not really in any sense something else at all.
864862;1412796060;Apocalyptic; yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place // that's a recurring thought I have these days
864863;1412796062;mircea_popescu;gavin wants to have a cryptousd he's welcome to make yet another shitcoin.
864864;1412796079;mircea_popescu;he's not welcome to try and hijack a project he has essentialy nothing to do with into that swamp however.
864865;1412796082;Apocalyptic;well they have ethereum for that
864866;1412796101;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic yeah but the problem with this crapolade is that it constantly needs to leech off hard currency to survive.
864867;1412796120;BingoBoingo;The correct solution to limited blocksize is occasionally buying trashcans full of your local scrip as necessary
864868;1412796124;mircea_popescu;ethereum is good for a few weeks, then need something else, same pretense.
864869;1412796161;Apocalyptic;mircea, may well be... that's why the ultimate solution is: don't let them get their hands on it
864870;1412796191;asciilifeform;!s good cakes
864871;1412796192;assbot;5 results for 'good cakes' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=good+cakes
864872;1412796204;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar aha
864873;1412796205;assbot;People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
864874;1412796211;mircea_popescu;for all i care, everyone's welcome to try any theory they wish and then starve on it. what's however not acceptable, not now, not ever, is fraud. passing scamcoins for actualcoins and trying to pretend like shitpie is "just as good as pie".
864875;1412796423;mircea_popescu;go1111111: thestringpuller: many people see the potential for Bitcoin to replace much of the global financial infrastructure. i know people in this channel prefer Bitcoin to be a gold-replacement, but if it was able to do a lot more, it'd be pretty awesome << this is wrong on each and every level.
864876;1412796450;mircea_popescu;level 1 : "many people" is not an argument, because a bunch of redditards are not actually different people. the headcount of all reddit is like, 5 people. that's not many and barely people.
864877;1412796455;asciilifeform;can it also replace photo lens cleaner? cause i'm running a bit low.
864878;1412796468;asciilifeform;how about garden mulch ?
864879;1412796476;mircea_popescu;discussions about reefed out derps about "global financial infrastructure" are nil and void. you don't even know what it is in th efirst place.
864880;1412796488;go1111111;the bad consequences of not having a limited currency base are clear (inflation). a larger block size won't lead to currency inflation, but blockchain inflation and some higher bandwidth requirements. That seems to have very different consequences.
864881;1412796501;mircea_popescu;level 3 : it is people IN THIS CHAN that are both the leading edge and the sum total of both the global financial infrastructure and its migration to bitcoin
864882;1412796507;mircea_popescu;level 4 : gold in no way enters into any of it.
864883;1412796526;mircea_popescu;go1111111 you think they're clear, because you understand very little of it.
864884;1412796542;mircea_popescu;examine what you think is "clear" to get a grip of how little you in fact understand. wtf is "inflation" ? why's it bad ?
864885;1412796554;mircea_popescu;inflation is great! more people get more money! what now ?
864886;1412796554;asciilifeform;when folks say 'we want it like gold' - do they mean 'confiscatable', 'bulky', and 'largely traded as sham paper' ?
864887;1412796586;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform generally, when people reference gold in relation to bitcoin it's simply a token to represent how they do not wish to engage into a discussion but would rather derp about some conveniently pre-prepared strawmen.
864888;1412796733;BingoBoingo;;;lasers
864889;1412796733;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
864890;1412796757;Naphex;;;lasers
864891;1412796757;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
864892;1412796760;Naphex;mircea_popescu: i'm not arbitering shit
864893;1412796762;Naphex;i run nodes
864894;1412796764;go1111111;inflation is 'bad' if the thing that is inflating is something you're holding as a long term store of value. higher supply --> lower price per unit. "inflation" is used two ways: increasing the supply of the currency, and increasing price levels. i'm referring to the former
864895;1412796769;mircea_popescu;Naphex huh ?
864896;1412796787;Naphex;mircea_popescu: and most full nodes out right now except core are all shit
864897;1412796864;ben_vulpes;Naphex: have you tried btcd?
864898;1412796876;mircea_popescu;go1111111 yes, you say "is used" meaning "is used to denote". but the two different things it's used to denote aren't unrelated. they're just facets of the same phenomeno.
864899;1412796878;ben_vulpes;not implying they're not shit, but curious to know your opinion.
864900;1412796892;mircea_popescu;another facet is the havok inflation wreaks upon capital allocation and generally marketplace decisions.
864901;1412796934;mircea_popescu;Naphex functionality and security are widely disjunct topics.
864902;1412796980;Naphex;mircea_popescu: i agree, but security you can improve. but functionality will be harder
864903;1412796989;mircea_popescu;depends for whom :)
864904;1412797007;Naphex;aye :P
864905;1412797010;mircea_popescu;look, most everyone i know is using some more or less modded 0.5 0.6 some brave souls read through all .7
864906;1412797021;mircea_popescu;point is, nobody in his right mind would just go with the "up to date".
864907;1412797061;mircea_popescu;because the troop has proven, multiple times, that they're not to be trusted. plenty of those are simple incompetence, but at least three or so can be well argued as malice.
864908;1412797071;nubbins`;any public stats on version popularity?
864909;1412797084;mircea_popescu;nubbins` there's a downloads count on github, for what that's worth.
864910;1412797084;Naphex;(in my defense, i am not running any live nodes with wallets attached)
864911;1412797101;nubbins`;not much
864912;1412797114;kakobrekla;nubbins` https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/dashboard/
864913;1412797115;assbot;24-hour chart - Bitnodes
864914;1412797117;mircea_popescu;by its nature this isn't something you'd know.
864915;1412797140;kakobrekla;see user agent ofc.
864916;1412797149;mircea_popescu;which anyone can set to anything.
864917;1412797164;kakobrekla;and most nobody changes it.
864918;1412797175;mircea_popescu;unl;ess they wish to not be pestered about uptading it
864919;1412797179;mircea_popescu;they just update the ver.
864920;1412797194;*;nubbins` raises eyebrow
864921;1412797227;kakobrekla;nah
864922;1412797346;mircea_popescu;go1111111: Gavin has a different idea of where he wants Bitcoin to go<< no, actually, gavin has finally figured that there's not really space in bitcoin for him, and he wants to move on. which is fine.
864923;1412797355;mircea_popescu;but the derpage about taking bitcoin with him is ridoinculous.
864924;1412797369;mircea_popescu;let him do his whatever the hell it is and be happy, nobody cares.
864925;1412797440;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb.
864926;1412797498;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1RX73SK.txt )
864927;1412797498;BingoBoingo;!b 4
864928;1412797501;mircea_popescu;so one block will fit 100x as many tx, and each solved block will yield 50x less in subsidies. that's a 5k drop over 20 years. it's high enough to kill the price, and with it mining, and with all that bring bitcoin back within the financial ability of the us.
864929;1412797512;mircea_popescu;which is exactly the point of all this fucking derpage.
864930;1412797525;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2014#862720
864931;1412797526;assbot;Logged on 07-10-2014 18:01:23; mircea_popescu: making it n-0, retroactively. THEY HAVE YET TO ACTUALLY SCORE ONCE!
864932;1412797538;mircea_popescu;boys'd really love to make that 0 an 1 already.
864933;1412797609;mircea_popescu;and no, im not gonna think about the spooks. i couldn't give less of a shit that some single mom's ugly children are starving because her no fee half bitcent bitbet bet didn't get into any of sixty consecutive blocks.
864934;1412797626;mircea_popescu;and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it.
864935;1412797648;mircea_popescu;this specifically requires avoiding the tarpit of trying to be yet another macdonals, helping along with welfare distribution.
864936;1412797659;mircea_popescu;we're not here to be friends. we're here to fuck over the entire system, permanently.
864937;1412797752;Naphex;ben_vulpes: (>>> Naphex: have you tried btcd?) i have btcd running on a staging server. eats a bit more load but deffinetly not ready to run on production. I'm still grabbing metrics from it so time will tell
864938;1412797790;BingoBoingo;Boxes full of local cash. Only solution for using bitcoin in day to day transactions.
864939;1412797817;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo but see, the question is : govt doesn't want to be a wholly owned subsidiary of bitcoin, and used as such, with its scrip a sort of ltc.
864940;1412797834;mircea_popescu;govt wants it the other way around, so why won't we be nice people and just make bitcoin a sort of replacement for sms payments already.
864941;1412797847;BingoBoingo;Maybe one month you only need a shoebox of Benjamins. Maybe another month you need a pallet of Woodrow Wilsons
864942;1412797851;mircea_popescu;they got the "global financial blabla" quite well pegged, they figure, why won't we just eat some crums ?
864943;1412797941;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it? << here's the problem : you went from cable to optic fibre to do that.
864944;1412797946;mircea_popescu;there's nothing after optic fiber.
864945;1412797950;BingoBoingo;Well the thing is we already have both things. Bitcoin for global finance and Altcoin for embarassing Gavincoin
864946;1412797968;mircea_popescu;sure, for as long as you're rubbing sticks together, things can increase massively. once you start running up against the limits of the universe however, that's that.
864947;1412798013;mircea_popescu;moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup
864948;1412798064;mircea_popescu;in short : just because your tits grew up 100% a week for half a year starting on your eleventh birthday doesn't mean jack. for one thing, the first cubic centimetre happened then.
864949;1412798075;mircea_popescu;imagining you'll keep doubling bra cup into your 30s is a little out there
864950;1412798088;mircea_popescu;and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay.
864951;1412798100;mircea_popescu;too much taking over of the "global financial blabla"
864952;1412798165;thestringpuller;take everything back to zero
864953;1412798179;thestringpuller;then we can go back to one.
864954;1412798221;assbot;xiando +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
864955;1412798267;BingoBoingo;!up xiando
864956;1412798303;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: Apocalyptic i'm trying to figure out why everyone has their dicks in a knot about it. nobody seems to know. ^ above should give you a good start.
864957;1412798338;asciilifeform;in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup << copper phone net torn down. and where not torn down, scavengers are working. so no, not fiber, it'll be either nothing or dog-slow radio a la africa.
864958;1412798350;asciilifeform;ebolaphone.
864959;1412798359;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform satellite dial-up
864960;1412798403;jurov;unless copper is on par with silver, no one is interested in tiny phone wires
864961;1412798404;asciilifeform;'3g' gprs stack is actually very similar to classical dialup internally.
864962;1412798414;mircea_popescu;it is yes
864963;1412798423;mircea_popescu;jurov sure they are.
864964;1412798434;asciilifeform;jurov: tell that to american scavengers. they've even pulled up fiber! purely through a combo of retardation and 'shoot first, questions second'
864965;1412798441;mircea_popescu;^
864966;1412798486;jurov;in that case, AC wires/transformers will get missing first. bigger problem than just some phones
864967;1412798489;bounce;currently on 80/8 cable. and fibre has quite a bit of headroom yet. though for for low-latency things they're back to LoS-microwave links.
864968;1412798501;BingoBoingo;jurov> unless copper is on par with silver, no one is interested in tiny phone wires << In my present metro area, when leaves my rural oasis for the city one finds all outdoor components of HVAC systems living in cages
864969;1412798521;mircea_popescu;what's gprs anyway, like 50kb/s and 1 second latencies ?
864970;1412798524;jurov;HVAC === phone wires ????
864971;1412798556;bounce;could perhaps imagine the typical post-apocalyptic american human wilderness with the addition of heavily guarded microwave towers for the happy few
864972;1412798566;BingoBoingo;jurov: It's copper and it already needs secured that way. Live electric wires also... disappear.
864973;1412798566;jurov;64kbps, latency depends
864974;1412798593;asciilifeform;copper pipes routinely vanish from houses left unattended for some days, in a number of u.s. locales
864975;1412798603;asciilifeform;just as herr orlov predicted based on experience elsewhere
864976;1412798614;mircea_popescu;bounce fibre possibly has a lot of headroom yet. but so did cable, originally. point is there's not going to be a qualitative jump like going from copper to glass.
864977;1412798623;jurov;you completely missed my point, as susual. it's difference between 1mm and 0.1mm wires
864978;1412798628;asciilifeform;there's, hypothetically, 'more glass'
864979;1412798638;jurov;the latter you can't simply burn off of the plasitc
864980;1412798651;jurov;they tend to burn, too
864981;1412798654;bounce;not that we know of, anyway.
864982;1412798669;mircea_popescu;bounce but see, in 1960 we did know about optic fibre.
864983;1412798674;BingoBoingo; they tend to burn, too << Not if you make a smarter fire.
864984;1412798687;mircea_popescu;jurov that is a good point
864985;1412798696;mircea_popescu;but they'll steal the main trunks, not the last miles.
864986;1412798704;jurov;these dudes who tear fibers dont know about smart fires :)
864987;1412798720;mircea_popescu;and main trunk is two inch thich copper.
864988;1412798726;jurov;main trunka aren't copper since 20 yrs ago
864989;1412798730;jurov;*trunks
864990;1412798733;BingoBoingo;Well... in the future it won't always be the dumb ones stealing
864991;1412798736;mircea_popescu;that'd depend lots.
864992;1412798739;cazalla;mircea_popescu: o heya cazalla. how was the lass ? <<< no time for that, to sydney and back again in 2 days
864993;1412798767;mircea_popescu;cazalla so are you back in the seat now ?
864994;1412798773;cazalla;yup
864995;1412798825;BingoBoingo;!up justusranvier
864996;1412798845;jurov;anyway. in eastern europe/russia, phones and electricity did mostly work. heating and plumbing went away first.
864997;1412798879;bounce;copper has come a long way since then too. but anyway, if the argument was that there's some cap on the achievable max bandwidth... probably. whether we'll hit it in our lifetime and/or the end of the current civilisation? no idea.
864998;1412798884;mircea_popescu;in roimania it was the railroad signals and then the phones. nobody stole plumbing.
864999;1412798894;mircea_popescu;heating uh... what, steal gas pipe ? never happened
865000;1412798905;asciilifeform;coal.
865001;1412798908;BingoBoingo;jurov: People here don't usually bother heat... They bother cooling though
865002;1412798908;bounce;modern gas pipes are all plastic anyhow
865003;1412798917;asciilifeform;primorye case, etc
865004;1412798925;mircea_popescu;bounce no, the point was that there's no good reason to believe doubling each year for 20 years is something to engineer against.
865005;1412798961;BingoBoingo;Also thing that goes missing occasionally.... Aluminum park benches and bleachers.
865006;1412798962;bounce;well, it'd exclude anyone who couldn't keep up
865007;1412798964;asciilifeform;obligatory:
865008;1412798965;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/02/book-excerpt-wrong-math.html
865009;1412798966;assbot;ClubOrlov: Book Excerpt: The wrong math
865010;1412798977;mircea_popescu;bounce not the point of excluding, the point is of engineering.
865011;1412798986;mircea_popescu;effects aren't the consideration here. the cause is the consideration.
865012;1412799001;bounce;what, it's not about the politics for once?
865013;1412799022;mircea_popescu;im not aware it was about the politics, other than to reject unwarranted politics ploys.
865014;1412799043;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13431 @ 0.00074467 = 10.0017 BTC [-]
865015;1412799043;mircea_popescu;telling some derp derping about "what we should do" there's no we and nobody elected him is not politics, but the contrary thereof.
865016;1412799048;BingoBoingo;http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2014/10/06#l1412554998 << Gentoo Bitcoin port apparently uses Luke-Jr patches by default
865017;1412799048;assbot;BitcoinStats
865018;1412799062;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo anything good ?
865019;1412799103;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: A bit of drama in the convo. Haven't finished it myself.
865020;1412799129;jurov;anyway. can anyone explain to me how am i a part of "a sum total of the global financial infrastructure"?
865021;1412799132;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: it's been quite some years since one could safely rely on gentoo defaults.
865022;1412799155;bounce;a neat little cog waving his convenient plastic around?
865023;1412799167;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: such burden << if not paid for, even a cent's worth can kill.
865024;1412799197;mircea_popescu;jurov mebbe you read an inclusive statement backwards ?
865025;1412799204;mircea_popescu;not all statements can be read backwards safely.
865026;1412799219;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'd assume Gentoo users are of that school, but I dunno that Gentoo is luser proof yet.
865027;1412799236;mircea_popescu;it can;t be heh, isn't gentoo the offical hipster distro atm ?
865028;1412799240;jurov;it is people IN THIS CHAN that are both the leading edge and the sum total of both the global financial infrastructure and its migration to bitcoin << this meand you and who else then?
865029;1412799250;asciilifeform;wtf is a hipster distro
865030;1412799259;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the distro that makes you cool by using it.
865031;1412799274;asciilifeform;(gentoo out of the box, as found now, is atrocious. i'm having face rubbed in this as we speak.)
865032;1412799277;mircea_popescu;jurov vexual.
865033;1412799281;asciilifeform;but there is no replacement for it
865034;1412799288;BingoBoingo;jurov: You run the only financial brokerage of note
865035;1412799292;thickasthieves;me too, i'm collecting bitcoins from bad traders
865036;1412799298;mircea_popescu;lol
865037;1412799300;asciilifeform;short of 'roll own everything, have team of artisans on retainer, 1000 man hours to start'
865038;1412799307;bounce;perhaps interesting to see how people got started in the gene sequencing biz, and over a couple decades have seen sequencing speeds and capacity shoot up not quite to the moon, but close.
865039;1412799323;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform since you're doing all this, make a loper's gentoo put wrapper on blog ?
865040;1412799327;bounce;worked well enough there. I'd agree that banking on a similar thing happening in last mile connectivity is maybe a little optimistic.
865041;1412799347;mircea_popescu;bounce again, this is a discussion of very prepubescent titgrowth.
865042;1412799358;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: most of the struggle revolves around a particular set of hardware, won't be of much interest to other people
865043;1412799358;jurov;thanks BingoBoingo, but how comes I have to run derpy casino to make ends meet?
865044;1412799359;mircea_popescu;telephone infrastructure has been a thing for > a century.
865045;1412799375;thickasthieves;casino is derpy?
865046;1412799412;thickasthieves;you are also collecting bitcoins from bad traders
865047;1412799414;jurov;coinbr mostly dried up this year
865048;1412799430;asciilifeform;(anyone who uses gentoo, see recent logs for systemd exorcism notes)
865049;1412799431;mircea_popescu;bounce here's some saner math : first telegraphed message was in 1844. the bw today, 170 years later, is 10mn times wider. (ie, taking that 10mbps).
865050;1412799434;bounce;it never really had to perform outside voice band up until very recently, though
865051;1412799439;mircea_popescu;;;calc 10000000 ** (1/170)
865052;1412799439;gribble;1.09945249861
865053;1412799445;mircea_popescu;10% a year. how about that.
865054;1412799457;mircea_popescu;bounce telegraph, baby. no voice is being discussed.
865055;1412799463;jurov;thickasthieves not even a casino, dice game
865056;1412799468;mircea_popescu;it took 170 years to go from 1 baud to 10mn baud.
865057;1412799487;asciilifeform;who had 1 baud at home 170y ago ?
865058;1412799507;asciilifeform;morse?
865059;1412799512;mircea_popescu;everyone living next to morse lol
865060;1412799542;mircea_popescu;anyway, if you were to propose over the next 170 years it increases 10 million fold again, i would take 50-50 odds against.
865061;1412799554;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1.5 ** 170
865062;1412799554;gribble;862013444619732718146971238400
865063;1412799558;mircea_popescu;gimme a break.
865064;1412799559;thickasthieves;jurov, ok, maybe all mp meant by being the financial center is that HE is the center, and since we orbit around him, we aren't careening into the abyss
865065;1412799576;thickasthieves;amiright?
865066;1412799595;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves nah
865067;1412799777;asciilifeform;want ten terabyte / sec ? catapult, disks.
865068;1412799789;asciilifeform;(hey, you said - bandwidth. not latency.)
865069;1412799795;punkman;dronedisks
865070;1412799806;jurov;blockchain bombardment
865071;1412799821;asciilifeform;'c' is ultimate limit for latency, anyway, sans martian physics
865072;1412799826;bounce;;;calc 10000000 * (1.09945249861 ** 170)
865073;1412799826;gribble;1.00000000024e+14
865074;1412799887;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform> want ten terabyte / sec ? catapult, disks. << Stationwagon and tape may still be king
865075;1412799900;asciilifeform;wagon in catapult, sure.
865076;1412799918;mircea_popescu;bounce 100tb ? nuts, but perhaps THIS side of nuts.
865077;1412799941;bounce;in 170 years? doesn't sound unreasonable, provided we keep up the pace.
865078;1412799962;mircea_popescu;right.
865079;1412799978;bounce;but it doesn't sound useful. 8k HD cat videos is silly already now.
865080;1412799990;mircea_popescu;EXACTLY.
865081;1412800010;mircea_popescu;which is a major fucking point that got neglected so far. there's this seinfeld where george tries to sell computers
865082;1412800014;mircea_popescu;"hey, it's got porn"
865083;1412800028;mircea_popescu;by now the limit on porn is that nobody can be fucking bothered to make the sluts look good in 8k hd.
865084;1412800037;mircea_popescu;so what's going to push your dubling each year ? faeries ?
865085;1412800056;mircea_popescu;in 1990 i could see it, we wanted to see samantha fox naked in color, rather than black/white ascii art.
865086;1412800069;jurov;3d rendered pr0n
865087;1412800082;bounce;well, there's the thing. the phone system didn't really improve substantially until someone found a reason to repurpose that last mile for DSL. even if that DSL now mostly carries crap better carried some other way, or not at all.
865088;1412800105;mircea_popescu;bounce yes, but see, just like light in glass is a limit of the universe, that's relevant,
865089;1412800117;mircea_popescu;"full image of the human person" is also a limit, in fact. quite biological.
865090;1412800137;mircea_popescu;there substantially isn't something as interesting to people.
865091;1412800163;bounce;uncompressed hi-res n-dim medical imaging is a good, morally upstanding way to stuff the pipe. even if it's a bit of a niche now.
865092;1412800167;mircea_popescu;now this is a very distant, removed argument. but that doesn't entirely destroy it. sure, it's useless in a 5 year discussion.,
865093;1412800170;jurov;i just referred to "to make sluts look good"
865094;1412800181;mircea_popescu;jurov :p
865095;1412800204;mircea_popescu;bounce maybe. again, im not saying "no" or "never" here. i'm trying to do some actual reasoning on evaluating patently insane claims sprouted by gavin.
865096;1412800286;bounce;oh I haven't really kept up with that. maybe I should read up. but the point in the very general sense is that we don't know yet how we're going to waste tomorrow's bandwidth. you know, like youtube is quite a thing these days, but only can exist because availability of >>dialup bandwidths
865097;1412800329;mircea_popescu;last i heard youtube traffix was waning, but be that as it may,
865098;1412800335;bounce;so it's maybe a bit early to decide there won't be bandwidth because there won't be drive. may be. maybe not. it's not a given either way.
865099;1412800353;mircea_popescu;"bandwidth will double each year for 20 years because it has in a very rare circumstance the past 10" is not unlike the way people try to sell "global warming"
865100;1412800371;mircea_popescu;it's in fact exactly recycled golfclub pattern talk, which is exactly how the independent observer knows this is not merely gavin derping,
865101;1412800389;mircea_popescu;but in fact gavin executing usg agenda. those twerps have few ideas and they keep redressing them everywhere.
865102;1412800393;bounce;could be, but it boomed for a goodly bit, because it could. netflix took over torrent in biggest traffic (oh woe is the mafiaa and their pr-war), and so on.
865103;1412800395;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That -dev conversation has some interesting derping lower down with luke and Gavin agreeing
865104;1412800419;jurov;i see some conflation of technical and economical arguments
865105;1412800421;mircea_popescu;bounce sure. but by now it takes two minutes to dld a film and 120 to watch it
865106;1412800430;mircea_popescu;what is going to HALF it to a minute ? by next year ?
865107;1412800464;jurov;we want for bitcoin to have limited supply, not just amount but also blockchain space
865108;1412800475;*;bounce doesn't see that happen in a bit. just like the peecee business is in a bit of a slump, because, well, there's only so much cpu power reasonably wastable on eyecandy.
865109;1412800484;mircea_popescu;jurov not quite. i dun want jack shit. but when presented with an argument to
865110;1412800488;mircea_popescu;ACT, i wil consider it.
865111;1412800494;mircea_popescu;and this one fails on a number of grounds
865112;1412800502;mircea_popescu;so... it's not happening.
865113;1412800530;bounce;though as time went on I find myself watching less and less video. curious how that works, or doesn't.
865114;1412800567;mircea_popescu;cuz who the fuck has the time for video.
865115;1412800588;fluffypony;I uh
865116;1412800589;fluffypony;uh
865117;1412800591;fluffypony;http://vimeo.com/107435702
865118;1412800591;assbot;Lesley the Pony Has an A+ Day! on Vimeo
865119;1412800594;fluffypony;I have no words
865120;1412800595;mircea_popescu;lol
865121;1412800596;fluffypony;it's beautiful
865122;1412800601;*;bounce recalls someone complaining about kids wasting massive amounts of bandwidth on youtube music videos just for the audio; the browser window with the player is kept in the background
865123;1412800609;BingoBoingo;skinnkavaj agrees with Gavin on scalability, that dooms it.
865124;1412800627;mircea_popescu;is that the guy that was arguing with assbot ?
865125;1412800633;mircea_popescu;what, he's a core ranger now too ?
865126;1412800639;bounce;this is a weird way to follow an argument. is there a log of -dev somewhere?
865127;1412800658;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: One of them. I dunno if he is a ranger, but he lurks a lot of places and interupts
865128;1412800667;BingoBoingo;bounce: bitcoinstats.com
865129;1412800670;jurov;bounce http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/
865130;1412800671;assbot;BitcoinStats
865131;1412800778;BingoBoingo;http://pastebin.com/vy9PQGqm
865132;1412800778;assbot;07:09 wumpus Luke-Jr: YOU BROKE github-merge.sh 07:09 wumpus I guess I shou - Pastebin.com
865133;1412800842;mircea_popescu;and for the kids following at home : http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7800000/SAM-4-samantha-fox-7878744-363-500.jpg << this is samantha fox. for a year or two she was probably the most jacked off to woman in teh world.
865134;1412800912;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun Let's design an ATM card that is a Bitcoin wallet. Who is up to the task with me. Ideas? Thoughts? Purpose: so that dumb users can just "get a card" rather than have to learn how to set up a complicated node on a p2p network. They already use ATM cards. So, this is a form factor thing. << The people who hop on -dev so srs
865135;1412800950;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo jesus i pity the sane people there.
865136;1412800951;Azelphur;just had an amazing offer courtesy of EA https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=91dcb0ad261c2801ce58e33974e57a4a
865137;1412800951;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
865138;1412800951;assbot;ownCloud
865139;1412800967;mircea_popescu;Azelphur going to be a game dev ?
865140;1412800984;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: no, and if I was I think I'd rather shoot myself than work for EA :P
865141;1412800994;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Who knew we'd all be appreciating assbot's !up !down so much nao
865142;1412801048;mircea_popescu;yeah it grows on one
865143;1412801326;punkman;http://www.tipiti.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1972.-Lena-S%C3%B6derberg-p1047.jpg
865144;1412801412;mircea_popescu;punkman butt approved!
865145;1412801526;punkman;http://www.famousboard.com/threads/6563-Lenna-Sj%C3%B6%C3%B6blom
865146;1412801527;assbot;Lenna Sjblom nude pics @ FamousBoard
865147;1412801530;punkman;quite famous
865148;1412801552;mircea_popescu;first lady of teh internets neh ?
865149;1412801571;punkman;she's got my vote
865150;1412801736;kakobrekla;!s vultr
865151;1412801736;assbot;0 results for 'vultr' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=vultr
865152;1412801766;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: you guys and your normcore style << do elaborate!
865153;1412801853;mircea_popescu;wow shit there's an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs ?!
865154;1412801978;mike_c;GET /gow//.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\etc/passwd << does this shit actually still work on anyone?
865155;1412802003;mircea_popescu;nope.
865156;1412802013;mircea_popescu;and i mean, so he gets passwd. so ?
865157;1412802017;mircea_popescu;what is he going to do with it ?
865158;1412802039;mike_c;who knows. but A for effort, 3000 requests in a minute.
865159;1412802099;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/o-hai-i-was-justing-doing-a-penetration-test-of-your-site/ more in the same style.
865160;1412802100;assbot;O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
865161;1412802185;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/
865162;1412802202;mike_c;really? i thought we were going back to moon now.
865163;1412802231;asciilifeform;an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs >> neal stephenson's 'slines'
865164;1412802252;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I thought we never really hit the moon yet, just low earth orbit.
865165;1412802274;mike_c;last i heard we had hit moon and were aiming for mars. but i don't keep track.
865166;1412802290;mircea_popescu;wasn't it the dog that went to moon ?
865167;1412802309;kakobrekla;anything but earth please.
865168;1412802318;mike_c;http://bitnewt.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bitcoin-Moon-Flag.gif
865169;1412802452;BingoBoingo;http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/private-tour-cias-incredible-museum-180952738/?no-ist
865170;1412802453;assbot;A Private Tour of the CIA's Incredible Museum | History | Smithsonian
865171;1412802517;BingoBoingo;Comment on a site that links to gallery of things to be paranoid about "
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865177;1412802519;BingoBoingo;That story about the silenced handgun is ridiculous. Even modern suppressors leave gunshots well over 100 dB range. Nice to know that our spymasters even insist on lying to themselves." Forgets .22lr is a thing
865178;1412802664;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: СП-4
865179;1412803110;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well... Always room for improvement
865180;1412803261;BingoBoingo;'Murica has obola again http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms
865181;1412803262;assbot;Ebola Scare Sends Dallas County Sheriff’s Deputy To Hospital « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth
865182;1412803382;The20YearIRCloud;oh joy
865183;1412803512;thestringpuller;w/dinwo 21
865184;1412803560;BingoBoingo;Basically texas needs quarantined nao
865185;1412803631;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,937.
865186;1412803645;The20YearIRCloud;texas has more health problems from illegals coming over the boarder than it does with ebola (all healthwise)
865187;1412803665;BingoBoingo;Nah.
865188;1412803679;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8219 @ 0.00074336 = 6.1097 BTC [-]
865189;1412803695;BingoBoingo;I imagine within the decade Mexico will be more concerned about illegals coming from the US than the other way.
865190;1412803757;mircea_popescu;The20YearIRCloud depends how bad it gets.
865191;1412803763;BingoBoingo;I have a gut feeling that the big reason more US'ians don't follow through with their going to Canada threats is that Canada is too close to what they are leaving. That and Canada doesn't really want them.
865192;1412803770;mircea_popescu;from the looks of it they've got maybe even odds to lose control and end up with an epidemic
865193;1412803791;mircea_popescu;if the mortality is 20% from the disease and another 10% from the resulting stampede that's about 100mn deaths in the us by 2016.
865194;1412803900;ben_vulpes;do i hafta stop licking eyeballs?
865195;1412803907;asciilifeform;and the flights carry on.
865196;1412803915;asciilifeform;ebama, obola.
865197;1412803963;asciilifeform;official excuse is, get this, 'you can't get infected on the plane, we check for fever getting off'
865198;1412803978;asciilifeform;if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit.
865199;1412803982;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform there is some merit to this. apparently it's not infectious presymptomatically.
865200;1412803986;asciilifeform;sure.
865201;1412803990;ben_vulpes;you better lose yourself in the pandemic \ you own it, you better never let it go \ you only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow
865202;1412804002;mircea_popescu;n ow on the other hand, who gives a shit about west africa flights...
865203;1412804007;asciilifeform;yes.
865204;1412804009;asciilifeform;ebama does.
865205;1412804027;mircea_popescu;i don't get this. you telling me it's specifically because obama is a kenyan citizen ?
865206;1412804030;asciilifeform;gotta bring in more, you see, texas seed might die out.
865207;1412804031;mircea_popescu;kenya is not even on the list ?
865208;1412804036;mircea_popescu;eh get out.
865209;1412804044;asciilifeform;nah, it's because this is a golden chance for usg.
865210;1412804052;asciilifeform;or at least, someone seems to think so
865211;1412804054;mircea_popescu;to... what ?
865212;1412804056;bounce;that whole patenting thing?
865213;1412804063;asciilifeform;to remain relevant a little longer.
865214;1412804085;chetty;but seriously when exactly do you cross the line to being infections? the exact second you show a fever? the first time you cough? of just maybe its actually 5 minutes before ...
865215;1412804085;asciilifeform;and to desaparecer certain inconveniences in the chaos.
865216;1412804092;mircea_popescu;get out, no govenrment in history survived a large pandemic
865217;1412804093;mircea_popescu;nor could it.
865218;1412804106;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00074435 = 14.7381 BTC [+] {2}
865219;1412804116;mircea_popescu;chetty apparently it's well after fever.
865220;1412804124;asciilifeform;chetty: when exactly do you cross the line << from a sane (e.g. soviet) epidemiologist's point of view - when you set foot in a 'hot zone' - you're infectious until proven innocent.
865221;1412804125;mircea_popescu;there's good biological reason for this
865222;1412804128;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/boost-vc-and-zapchain-team-up-to-create-the-bitcoin-course/
865223;1412804129;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/get-your-bitcoin-news-widget/
865224;1412804136;chetty;me dont believe thay actually know for sure
865225;1412804141;BingoBoingo;chetty: No one knows where the line is, may vary in different situations
865226;1412804163;mircea_popescu;chetty this is roughly like the "can't get aids from mosquitoes/bugs
865227;1412804168;mircea_popescu;generally, broadly speaking you don't.
865228;1412804173;mircea_popescu;then again...
865229;1412804173;ben_vulpes;ottomans survived regular decimations in constantinople, according to "The Sultans"
865230;1412804181;chetty;asciilifeform, I like that definition
865231;1412804186;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes which specifically ?
865232;1412804196;dub;is there acutally more cases of obola or are yall watching fox again
865233;1412804200;ben_vulpes;which ottomans?
865234;1412804210;mircea_popescu;dub the sherrif apparently is suspcious
865235;1412804216;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes which epidemic
865236;1412804220;ben_vulpes;"plague"
865237;1412804224;mircea_popescu;WHICH lol
865238;1412804232;asciilifeform;dub: they're ddosing the public with 'yet another 134 false alarms in city X!'
865239;1412804233;ben_vulpes;it was a passing note, take it up with Barber!
865240;1412804233;mircea_popescu;like, what year.
865241;1412804247;chetty;dub, they took another one into isolation to 'test'
865242;1412804249;ben_vulpes;dunno boss.
865243;1412804280;asciilifeform;dub: when folks start to burst in shopping malls into bloody mess, they won't be able to keep a lid on it. and they know it. so what can they do? cultivate an atmosphere of bullshit, so the news will be met with maximal skepticism.
865244;1412804315;mircea_popescu;like the 1812/13 ? or prior ?
865245;1412804318;asciilifeform;these folks are pro at exactly one thing: keeping the cattle from stampede.
865246;1412804328;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The scariest zombies are always the kind that die. I've never much feared undeath.
865247;1412804331;chetty;I don't think they even need actual disease now, the fear may be enough
865248;1412804334;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i wouldn't credit them with that.
865249;1412804337;mircea_popescu;it's the cattle.
865250;1412804403;chetty;on the not shutting down flights, whats wrong with those pilots and aircrews, they can and should shut it down
865251;1412804419;asciilifeform;chetty: they want to eat.
865252;1412804419;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Most cattle here lack the cardiovascular endurance to really... Stampede... McDonalds et al
865253;1412804435;mircea_popescu;;;google Cocoliztli
865254;1412804435;gribble;Megadrought and Megadeath in 16th Century Mexico: ; Cocoliztli - Evidence Detail :: US History: ; Cocoliztli or Cocolitzli? - Indigenous Hemorrhagic Fever and The ...:
865255;1412804444;mircea_popescu;teh mexicans had an ebola-ish thing at some point.
865256;1412804460;chetty; chetty: they want to eat.// helps to be alive to do that
865257;1412804474;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Hanta, still endemic to the America southwest. Goes through dormant, emergent cycles
865258;1412804552;chetty;BingoBoingo, thats a point, with all the drought that should have broken out, haven't seen anything about it
865259;1412804557;mircea_popescu;!up Quinn_
865260;1412804571;BingoBoingo;Basically North America can not have an edible mouse like Slovenia can.
865261;1412804586;mircea_popescu;they eat the squirels. same deal.
865262;1412804601;Quinn_;mircea, i was told you wanted to talk to me?
865263;1412804607;BingoBoingo;Hanta is apparently a creature of the desert.
865264;1412804610;mircea_popescu;this is possible. who are you ?
865265;1412804620;Quinn_;I created the bitcoin users in a nutshell cartoon.
865266;1412804625;mircea_popescu;o hey.
865267;1412804638;mircea_popescu;dja wanna make some bitcoin-assets cartoons ?
865268;1412804674;ben_vulpes;mircea_popescu: prior, iirc. the context of the remark was that the sultan (subject of the chapter) began to address the plagues that had routinely decimated the capital with european medical techniques. this was, iirc, one of the last three to rule before the sultanate was brought to an end by the young turks et al.
865269;1412804694;asciilifeform;chetty: in usa we fear unemployment literally more than bloody death of obola.
865270;1412804701;mircea_popescu;does your own statement resolve your objection ben_vulpes ? :)
865271;1412804715;Quinn_;Depends on the content, i have a site which is better to contact me through. www.zenithquinn.com/#!commissions/c171x
865272;1412804715;ben_vulpes;o ya :D
865273;1412804730;mircea_popescu;Quinn_ how does it depend on the content ?
865274;1412804744;ben_vulpes;though the causal relationship is a little murky to me
865275;1412804757;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes merely correlation was proposed.
865276;1412804758;Quinn_;well I don't know what type of cartoons you want, so i can't tell you if i can agree to it or not.
865277;1412804776;mircea_popescu;but i'm preselected, i already seen the cartoon you made, so we're going with that type.
865278;1412804803;Quinn_;But do you have a script /idea?
865279;1412804813;bounce;``The Mexican natives in the encomienda system were treated as virtual slaves, were poorly fed and clothed, and were greatly overworked as farm and mine laborers. This harsh treatment appears to have left them particularly vulnerable to epidemic disease.'' -- worked to death, illness finished it
865280;1412804839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7897 @ 0.00074732 = 5.9016 BTC [+]
865281;1412804849;mircea_popescu;Quinn_ no, not yet. but if you're amenable to work on one i think we can probably come up with something.
865282;1412804875;mircea_popescu;bounce i wouldn't credit post-libtard revolution descriptions of history.
865283;1412804909;mircea_popescu;i mean sure, it all fits neatly, "prior to the soviet state and everywhere outside of it kids had it rough and didn't even get any icecream"
865284;1412804912;mircea_popescu;still...
865285;1412804954;bounce;that's not-invented-here.gov, dunno about their political or historic revisionism inclinations
865286;1412804958;Quinn_;Contact me through my site and we can discuss this further! :)
865287;1412804968;mircea_popescu;i'm not going to.
865288;1412804973;mircea_popescu;that's the point, actually.
865289;1412804985;mircea_popescu;you can contact me through here and we can discuss it further.
865290;1412805037;Quinn_;I don't arrange commissioned work through irc chats, not very trustworthy.
865291;1412805044;mircea_popescu;Quinn_ how long does it take you to make one of these ? could you in principle bang out one a week if scripts were availabe ?
865292;1412805052;mircea_popescu;it'd work nicely as a weekly featured video for qntra
865293;1412805102;Quinn_;The amount of work and time dedicated all depends on price. e.g a $300 video that's 30 seconds long will take a week.
865294;1412805104;mircea_popescu;hm, irc chats are actually the pinnacle of trustworthy, you just don't know about how it all works yet.
865295;1412805113;mircea_popescu;so how long did this video in question take you ?
865296;1412805163;Quinn_;I did it in my spare time between commissions, since it wasn't a source of income so around 3 months
865297;1412805177;Quinn_;and I know nothing about you, a quick google search doesn't reveal anything either
865298;1412805182;mircea_popescu;ah so it's very work intensive huh.
865299;1412805203;Quinn_;other than one article citing you as a romanian billionaire which doesn't exactly sound in any way legit.
865300;1412805205;mircea_popescu;maybe your google isn't so good ?
865301;1412805216;mircea_popescu;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/20/openbsd_bailed_out/ for instance
865302;1412805216;assbot;Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' The Register
865303;1412805235;mike_c;not entirely legit. should be "ex-pat romanian".
865304;1412805316;BingoBoingo;Quinn_: At the time he was provably a Billionaire. Now He's mysteriously maybe so. Bitcoin be volatile.
865305;1412805317;mircea_popescu;how does it not sound in any way legit ?!
865306;1412805335;BingoBoingo;He's at least a plural hundreds of Millionaire though, provably.
865307;1412805352;mircea_popescu;bitcoin created what, 50bn worth of value out of the ether. didja think it all went into the usg budget or something ?
865308;1412805389;Quinn_;Not to seem rude, but there;s hundreds or people who claim to be bitcoin millionaires on reddit and such.
865309;1412805401;mircea_popescu;well, sure.
865310;1412805410;mircea_popescu;nobody is claiming reddit is legit.
865311;1412805425;BingoBoingo;;;ident mircea_popescu
865312;1412805425;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
865313;1412805475;mircea_popescu;this is an interesting point tho. i guess for the vast majority of the public, bitcoin is this "cool tech", nobody stops to think bitcoin is actually a bunch of saudi princes.
865314;1412805543;Quinn_;mircea didn't you create a porn site under a false name and stolen content?
865315;1412805571;mircea_popescu;nope.
865316;1412805589;mircea_popescu;i was a producer for a bunch shots, but that was back in the 90s.
865317;1412805628;hanbot;mircea_popescu: how's slotful lust ? asciilifeform: you of all people should know << ahahaha, this convo....
865318;1412805635;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/MCRKSsq.gif :D
865319;1412805666;Quinn_;Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya!
865320;1412805677;mircea_popescu;cheers.
865321;1412805681;mircea_popescu;who the fucke is tapeke
865322;1412805692;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/onmJiHN.gif << am i putting this in the next s.nsa report ?
865323;1412805738;mircea_popescu;"
865324;1412805739;mircea_popescu;Tapeke is the first personal finance application specifically designed for Bitcoin. We help Bitcoiners to keep track of their Bitcoin expenses and incomes and ..." << you couldn't possibly mean that ?!
865325;1412805771;Naphex;lol
865326;1412805790;thestringpuller;Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! << blockchain is trustworthy nao?
865327;1412805815;mircea_popescu;anyway, the sad part here is that 15k youtube views took $300 * 3 * 4.2 = 3800 dollars' worth of this guy's time.
865328;1412805820;mircea_popescu;which is fucking scary.
865329;1412805845;mike_c;his time must be worth more given he just turned down a weekly video job.
865330;1412805877;mircea_popescu;mike_c i don't think he was proceeding very calculatedly tbh.
865331;1412805884;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I dunno. It's all about the burn rate.
865332;1412805985;mike_c;BingoBoingo: you're all over my homepage (again) http://www.btcalpha.com/
865333;1412805986;assbot;Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.
865334;1412806002;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,832.
865335;1412806018;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, mike_c dja feel like doing some writing for qrta ?
865336;1412806030;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Cool
865337;1412806060;mike_c;my once-a-month pace already strains my time for writing. i don't think i'm the right fit for a newsroom.
865338;1412806063;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: lol!
865339;1412806071;mircea_popescu;kk
865340;1412806163;thickasthieves;;;ticker
865341;1412806165;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 353.67, Best ask: 353.85, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 353.67, 24 hour volume: 27768.82024727, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 355.0, 24 hour vwap: 342.040137856
865342;1412806177;thickasthieves;chugging along
865343;1412806184;mike_c;there was this woman around looking for work who was a writer, but i think she disappeared.
865344;1412806204;mircea_popescu;work is apparently hard.
865345;1412806213;mike_c;;;seen wyrdmantis
865346;1412806213;gribble;wyrdmantis was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: Alibaba IPO? Totally unrelated to this downmove?
865347;1412806217;mircea_popescu;so much shit on people's eyes getting in the way of their finding a loaf of bread
865348;1412806300;mircea_popescu;!up SweeteDad
865349;1412806358;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#863189 < PFT! > http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#865319
865350;1412806360;assbot;Logged on 08-10-2014 03:44:52; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD
865351;1412806361;assbot;Logged on 08-10-2014 22:01:06; Quinn_: Yeah i think i'll stick to working with trustworthy people like Tapeke and blockchain! Seeya!
865352;1412806395;mike_c;;;gettrust tapeke
865353;1412806396;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mike_c to user tapeke: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mike_c&dest=tapeke | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tapeke | Rated since: never
865354;1412806402;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you don't understand how the world works.
865355;1412806415;kakobrekla;bignum is mininum.
865356;1412806482;mircea_popescu;trust is a feeling! investing is a +ev activity for the amateur, just like people make a profit growing tomatoes on their windowsil. sticks and stones could break your bones but words is what really matters. etc.
865357;1412806512;xanthyos;my dad has lung cancer
865358;1412806514;xanthyos;beat pancreatic
865359;1412806516;xanthyos;got lung
865360;1412806517;xanthyos;2 years
865361;1412806535;xanthyos;and i have been stuck in the chapel perilous in some schizoaffective bullshit for 8 days unable to leave the house or bed
865362;1412806545;xanthyos;so i think that deserves a negative assbot rating
865363;1412806549;xanthyos;i'm too crazy to live
865364;1412806553;xanthyos;farewell
865365;1412806555;BingoBoingo;xanthyos: Sucks.
865366;1412806573;mircea_popescu;xanthyos this too shall pass eh.
865367;1412806596;xanthyos;maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment
865368;1412806599;xanthyos;i'm better off dead
865369;1412806605;xanthyos;i might buy a bottle of vodka and walk into the woods
865370;1412806606;mircea_popescu;wouldja simmer down ?
865371;1412806608;thickasthieves;nonsense
865372;1412806637;mircea_popescu;i never heard of any man's post pancreatic lung cancer giving their offspring braindamage
865373;1412806644;BingoBoingo;vodka and the woods sounds like a fun way to get a hangover.
865374;1412806648;kakobrekla;x maybe danielpbarron is right when he says i'm brain damaged and i can't trust my own judgment < its good you figured this before buying a bottle of vodka and walking into the woods. just listen to us.
865375;1412806650;mircea_popescu;and that without even considering the part where you were born before he got it.
865376;1412806734;BingoBoingo; i'm too crazy to live << No such thing.
865377;1412806746;xanthyos;A LIFE WITHOUT SUFFERING
865378;1412806757;xanthyos;i haven't had a girlfriend since 2004
865379;1412806760;mircea_popescu;how about steve irvin, BingoBoingo ? that dude was too crazy to live.
865380;1412806769;mircea_popescu;xanthyos why not ?
865381;1412806772;xanthyos;because i'm too afraid if i got a girlfriend i'd just end up BEATING her like the last one
865382;1412806777;xanthyos;how's that for honest?
865383;1412806778;mircea_popescu;uh
865384;1412806782;mircea_popescu;so get one that likes it.
865385;1412806788;xanthyos;i dont' like to do it
865386;1412806789;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, he was too stupid and the stingray too wily
865387;1412806792;xanthyos;ti's not a sadomasochistic thing
865388;1412806801;mircea_popescu;well work with me here eh.
865389;1412806802;xanthyos;it's impulse control
865390;1412806808;bounce;get a gf that could hit you right back, and will if you mope
865391;1412806825;mike_c;so go see a shrink?
865392;1412806842;mircea_popescu;yeah, basically, eiother bounce or my solution works.
865393;1412806849;xanthyos;have one, but missed my most recent appointment due to anxiety
865394;1412806851;bounce;plenty help with all sorts of things. good of you to know where (some of) your weaknesses are. doing something about it is the next step.
865395;1412806854;mircea_popescu;it's not "impulse control", once she hands you your ass twice a week for a month
865396;1412806894;bounce;and of course, it's always darkest right before dawn.
865397;1412806901;thickasthieves;get someone to help you with motivating and taking care of yourself to do what you need to do
865398;1412806902;mircea_popescu;honestly i'd rather go to some full contact sport thing than a shrink if the problem is violence.
865399;1412806909;thickasthieves;maybe in addition to the shrink
865400;1412806927;thestringpuller;xanthyos: one of my closest friends has schizoaffective disorder. there was a point when he was having tons of episodes everyday that he couldn't really leave the house. But he's doing better now because better treatment is out. Just stick with it mang.
865401;1412806933;bounce;close in-person friends >> self-"medication"
865402;1412806945;xanthyos;the ocd and borderline personality disorder are the truly disabling things
865403;1412806952;xanthyos;i can deal with being schizo
865404;1412806959;mircea_popescu;wha do you do for a living anyway ?
865405;1412806960;xanthyos;those symptoms are mild
865406;1412806977;xanthyos;in 2001 i was diagnosed "gravely disabled" and have been receiving social security since
865407;1412806977;kakobrekla;being a test subject
865408;1412806987;mircea_popescu;o.O
865409;1412806992;xanthyos;i'm one of the entitled socialist dregs that bitcoin is going to weed out
865410;1412807003;mircea_popescu;lmao how do you make it in here without wanting to bash people's heads in ?
865411;1412807003;xanthyos;and i'm fine with it
865412;1412807006;mike_c;not if you buy bitcoin with your SS check
865413;1412807036;xanthyos;heh
865414;1412807041;hanbot;xanthyos http://thewhet.net/2012/this-is-it/ << written for pretty much where you are.
865415;1412807042;assbot;This is it | The Whet
865416;1412807064;mircea_popescu;hanbot wait, you got schizopersonalify disorder and ocde/whatever too ?
865417;1412807115;hanbot;nope
865418;1412807144;mircea_popescu;btw, im kinda surprised none of the evil-overgovernment conspiracy theorists have identified the oecd as the mechanism.
865419;1412807149;mircea_popescu;it seems rather obvious.
865420;1412807160;bounce;there's more ways and reasons to feel hopelessly inadequate and unfit for life
865421;1412807171;bounce;shit, every version of the DSM has MORE reasons
865422;1412807173;hanbot;i don't put too much stock in the whole dsm classification stuffs.
865423;1412807202;bounce;V got a little out of hand, making it less than useful
865424;1412807220;mircea_popescu;bounce or less than useless, as the case may be
865425;1412807241;xanthyos;i just don't want to spend hours a week comparing the lengths of my fingernails anymore.
865426;1412807245;xanthyos;it's not profitable
865427;1412807251;bounce;worse than. possibly quite a lot worse, depending on how much of a party the insurers are going to throw with it
865428;1412807290;mircea_popescu;xanthyos so do something useful then.
865429;1412807298;bounce;so get out and do something. maybe some moderately physically demanding job
865430;1412807305;mircea_popescu;why moderately ?
865431;1412807336;bounce;gotta start somewhere.
865432;1412807356;mircea_popescu;lol you mean, first time, single nail ?
865433;1412807391;thickasthieves;i think i mentioned pot before, but it doesnt suit you
865434;1412807395;bounce;more like something that'll get you nice and tired for a good night's sleep but not something that's so demanding it's easy to give up on
865435;1412807400;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00074747 = 10.3151 BTC [+] {2}
865436;1412807409;thickasthieves;a fam member uses it for his psych issues, along with some meds
865437;1412807422;mircea_popescu;hanbot great post btw.
865438;1412807425;thickasthieves;he's obsessed with making a home recording studio currently
865439;1412807446;hanbot;ty kindly mircea_popescu
865440;1412807464;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves i knew a guy who basically had a soundstage, because he wanted to record all his fucking sessions, which he then catalogued and manically preserved for old age.
865441;1412807483;mircea_popescu;died before being 40.
865442;1412807487;thickasthieves;it's an endless hobby to obsess on
865443;1412807489;thickasthieves;b
865444;1412807517;thickasthieves;very antisocial too
865445;1412807533;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,764.
865446;1412807534;bounce;the socials become rockstars and die at 27 from an overdosis
865447;1412807537;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.2409 BTC. Current weight: 94,322.
865448;1412807632;mircea_popescu;check it out, that's a choke ain't it. 2 on >200 1 on < 600
865449;1412807779;bounce;hanbot: s/treacle/trickle/ ?
865450;1412807901;hanbot;bounce treacle, sugar refining byproduct. a brownish, sickly-sweet gunk. perhaps a little awkward in there ::shrugs::
865451;1412807919;mircea_popescu;o.O
865452;1412807920;bounce;alright, if that's how you wanted it.
865453;1412808475;danielpbarron;;;rate xanthyos 4 face-to-face associate; 10+ year relationship; https://twitter.com/xanthyos
865454;1412808476;assbot;Tweets met antwoorden van xanthyos (@xanthyos) | Twitter
865455;1412808476;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user xanthyos has changed from -3 to 4.
865456;1412808563;bounce;cute toys: http://www.dolphinics.com/products/
865457;1412808564;assbot;Dolphin Express IX products - Low latency
865458;1412808570;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron you know that feed is protected
865459;1412808593;danielpbarron;ya, so?
865460;1412808609;bounce;protection against the uncool people
865461;1412808648;BingoBoingo;The US really should start selling ketamine like aspirin
865462;1412808650;danielpbarron;i think you need to be in his L1 to get access :p
865463;1412808935;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats
865464;1412808937;gribble;Current Blocks: 324464 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 111 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35121138498.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.32629
865465;1412809113;asciilifeform;bounce: Dolphin Express << very neat. but golden toilet.
865466;1412809122;bounce;oh?
865467;1412809132;asciilifeform;'if you have to ask price, you can't afford this'
865468;1412809168;bounce;there's that. sort-of implied by the high finance and military as proposed applications.
865469;1412809185;asciilifeform;bounce: if you want this (as i do) built it by hand, with fpga-to-pcie board.
865470;1412809189;asciilifeform;that's all it is, anyway
865471;1412809214;asciilifeform;they're dressing this as 'enterprise' turdware, yes.
865472;1412809258;*;bounce doesn't begin to have the soldering skills for that. or the rest of the ee skills. will have to work on that.
865473;1412809269;asciilifeform;no need to solder, surplus fpga demo board off 'ebay'.
865474;1412809284;asciilifeform;physically-identical to this unit, quite possibly.
865475;1412809296;bounce;O_O
865476;1412809322;asciilifeform;it's just some glue logic between pcie and external cabling.
865477;1412809333;asciilifeform;with possibly a little dma magic on transmitting and receiving ends.
865478;1412809357;asciilifeform;people who are not satisfied with '1024 chickens' often buy something like this.
865479;1412809372;asciilifeform;you still get same chickens (pc cpus) but now in a shared-memory harness.
865480;1412809426;bounce;they can charge quite a lot before it becomes more economical to buy non-chicken cpus
865481;1412809459;asciilifeform;non-chicken << you can't buy them.
865482;1412809471;asciilifeform;they don't exist. no one has made any such thing for 20+ years.
865483;1412809525;bounce;you don't like sparc and ppc either then?
865484;1412809538;asciilifeform;bounce: read why s. cray uttered the 'chickens' phrase.
865485;1412809566;asciilifeform;some jobs simply do not parallelize.
865486;1412809571;asciilifeform;as in, mathematically.
865487;1412809613;asciilifeform;the engineers' answer seems to have been, 'well don't do those jobs'
865488;1412809620;bounce;true enough. and so the best you can have there today AIUI is a 5+ GHz IBM thing in a massively overpriced package
865489;1412809633;asciilifeform;just as when musical notes appeared, music that was difficult to write down with notes - perhaps, disappeared.
865490;1412809647;asciilifeform;big fat fucking deal, 5.
865491;1412809654;BingoBoingo; some jobs simply do not parallelize. << Single network interface with packet filter
865492;1412809664;asciilifeform;2x speedup, 200x price markup.
865493;1412809711;bounce;that gives a lot of headroom for fancy interconnects, no? :-p
865494;1412809741;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: given that tcp/ip lets you fuck with ordering, that trivially parallelizes. at least, as fast as you can physically clock the bits off the wire to individual comparison registers, and then back on
865495;1412809784;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'narus corp.' (il. they supply a good chunk of nsa's hardware infrastructure) sells these.
865496;1412809792;asciilifeform;if you need one - straight to them. take a few $m.
865497;1412809848;asciilifeform;back to subject:
865498;1412809873;asciilifeform;if you have $maxint and want to convert it to parallelizable number crunching - plenty of people are ready to help.
865499;1412809888;asciilifeform;you'll end up with a small underground city full of intel, amd, whatever boxen.
865500;1412809904;asciilifeform;if you have $maxint and want to grind a non-parallelizable problem - god help you.
865501;1412809918;asciilifeform;it won't even suffice to build new fabs
865502;1412809933;asciilifeform;you'll need to find new chemists. that are (if you're lucky) in their cradles right now.
865503;1412809936;asciilifeform;and wait a few decades.
865504;1412809941;asciilifeform;and then - maybe you have something.
865505;1412810078;bounce;what's the fastest the labs (not fabs) can do now? 60GHz or so with graphene 'tors?
865506;1412810086;asciilifeform;60GHz of what?
865507;1412810089;asciilifeform;of 'not' gate?
865508;1412810094;asciilifeform;fat lot of good that'll do you.
865509;1412810100;asciilifeform;these are sold for rf applications.
865510;1412810119;asciilifeform;and once you connect two or more - here's your propagation delay.
865511;1412810123;asciilifeform;welcome to 1975.
865512;1412810180;pete_dushenski_;damn, mircea_popescu is on a roll today.
865513;1412810197;pete_dushenski_;this block size talk really lit the fire!
865514;1412810274;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: yet somehow the bitcoin crowd is supposed to have forgotten why it got into bitcoin in the first place, and apply the inflationary economy it's ran off from here << they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny.
865515;1412810370;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb. << whoa.
865516;1412810424;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it. << so *that's* why we're here!
865517;1412810432;*;pete_dushenski has purpose now.
865518;1412810440;bounce;only now?
865519;1412810452;pete_dushenski;wait, no, not purpose, causes!
865520;1412810459;pete_dushenski;i should really start reading contravex
865521;1412810464;*;bounce thinks of a 'pinky' joke, but fails... like every night.
865522;1412810548;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup << only then will their derping be tamed. when it actually costs something.
865523;1412810575;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay. << such forecasting these guys.
865524;1412810595;bounce;don't be silly. how did you think ma bell got to be big? it wasn't from lack of traffic!
865525;1412810596;pete_dushenski;which brings up gavin's latest, yes, make that his THIRD comment on contravex today:
865526;1412810607;pete_dushenski;http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30668
865527;1412810607;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
865528;1412810648;pete_dushenski;gavin must drive a lexus because he's definitely in the pursuit of perfection.
865529;1412810665;pete_dushenski;bounce ma bell?
865530;1412810678;BingoBoingo;pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously
865531;1412810685;bounce;ring ring. those guys.
865532;1412810735;pete_dushenski;"And then divide by… uh, I think 5, because Pieter’s libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL." << love this line by gavin.
865533;1412810772;pete_dushenski;"uhh let me make up numbers and not even mask the fact that they're made up because i'm typing in my retardedness."
865534;1412810797;pete_dushenski;chief scientist should be spending his time figuring out a plaintext emoticon for "drool"
865535;1412810814;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/32JAMK3.txt )
865536;1412810814;pete_dushenski;!b 3
865537;1412810921;bounce;those numbers are not that important. he could be off by a factor of ten and nobody'd notice. the "paying attention to the needs of EVERYBODY" is killer, though. in light of his committing those same EVERYBODY on upgrading their connectivity every year.
865538;1412810929;Apocalyptic; pete_dushenski: Notice how he never addresses bandwidth growth seriously // this is indeed a worthy issue to address
865539;1412811027;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: I mean right now it would be feasible to put a Bitcoin node pretty much anywhere with a wired internet connection other than Nepal or the Desert, yet... this constant bandwidth grow really only happen consistently in data centers.
865540;1412811055;thestringpuller;actually you could probably get away with 56k satellite phone connection in nepal
865541;1412811056;mircea_popescu;dude i go make some porn websites with stolen false names for five minutes and when i return the log scrolled off my desk
865542;1412811057;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/my-failed-attempt-to-suck-the-walmart-flavored-blood-of-1642497737 << New Yorkers forced to confront real America.
865543;1412811058;assbot;My Failed Attempt to Suck the Walmart-Flavored Blood of Real America
865544;1412811064;thestringpuller;if you had the block chain already downloaded
865545;1412811096;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: What took me so long was building a full txindex.
865546;1412811114;thestringpuller;the reindexing is killer
865547;1412811135;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, pretty much, I wasn't being sarcastic
865548;1412811148;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: I know.
865549;1412811242;BingoBoingo;It's the derps who see adds about hosting prices falling or staying constant and the connections offered increasing... Don't realize how infrequently... people who keep their own machines upgrade their connections... Unless they are running a data center.
865550;1412811254;mircea_popescu; some jobs simply do not parallelize. << i have trouble coming to terms with this concept. wtf do you mean ? they'd better parallelize or else can't work on a turing machine
865551;1412811295;asciilifeform;;;google perfectly sequential problem
865552;1412811296;gribble;P-complete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Stackelberg competition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sequential Equilibrium and Perfect Equilibrium ... - Cornell University:
865553;1412811311;asciilifeform;trivial example: sha(sha(sha..............
865554;1412811327;asciilifeform;(notice i didn't say 'mining btc')
865555;1412811331;mircea_popescu;sha(sha still paralelizes to some degree. it gotta
865556;1412811338;mircea_popescu;rainbow tables. something.
865557;1412811354;asciilifeform;not everything 'gotta'..
865558;1412811356;mircea_popescu;but yeah, i see what you mean
865559;1412811395;asciilifeform;http://stackoverflow.com/questions/806569/whats-the-opposite-of-embarrassingly-parallel
865560;1412811396;assbot;multithreading - What's the opposite of "embarrassingly parallel"? - Stack Overflow
865561;1412811406;thestringpuller;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2im4zv/gavin_andresen_proposes_bitcoin_hard_fork_to/cl3pga6
865562;1412811406;assbot;justusranvier comments on Gavin Andresen Proposes Bitcoin Hard Fork to Address Network Scalability
865563;1412811435;BingoBoingo;http://valleyball.co/ << Mega lulz, fantasy Venture capitalism
865564;1412811436;assbot;Valleyball - a fantasy VC league
865565;1412811491;mircea_popescu; they didn't forget as much as were attracted by the *new shininess* in the first place. now new thing is shiny. <<< or, moreover, aren't even bitcoin in any sense. notice the earlier guy with his strange "irc is insecure" notions. he probably thinks he's involved. his choices and mental processes however do not reflect that.
865566;1412811531;mircea_popescu; wait, no, not purpose, causes! << lol selfpwnt
865567;1412811543;thickasthieves;;;ticker
865568;1412811545;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.82, Best ask: 356.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 356.98, 24 hour volume: 28804.88232732, 24 hour low: 326.93, 24 hour high: 357.98, 24 hour vwap: 342.641644065
865569;1412811556;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: better me than you!
865570;1412811563;thickasthieves;;;estimate
865571;1412811564;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 35106354396.7 based on data since last change | 35353044324.1 based on data for last three days
865572;1412811567;thickasthieves;meh
865573;1412811581;pete_dushenski;thickasthieves: so much for that diff spike eh?
865574;1412811603;thickasthieves;i always assume the spikes are a new batch of miners testing then shipping
865575;1412811615;thickasthieves;cuz i am human and must invent gods
865576;1412811619;mircea_popescu; "And then divide by uh, I think 5, because Pieters libsecp256k1 code is 5 times as fast as OpenSSL << honestly, at this point i'd want everyone to give a good look to libsecp256k1
865577;1412811626;mircea_popescu;really curious what turdage lurks therein
865578;1412811634;thestringpuller;can reddit really get more dumb?
865579;1412811726;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: hmm. maybe gavin is trying to tip us off below the radar of his handlers?
865580;1412811734;pete_dushenski;maybe he has a soul!!11
865581;1412811737;thestringpuller;"Thank you for posting that article! Brother Taaki knocks it out of the park." << like really
865582;1412811742;thestringpuller;"Brother Taaki" ~_~
865583;1412811745;mircea_popescu;i have no idea, but the performance issue triggers my everpresend paranoid suspicion
865584;1412811776;mircea_popescu;justusranvier that's a rather intelligent point.
865585;1412811787;mircea_popescu;probably wasted in the venue, but i do kinda see you as this barefoot preacher to the huns.
865586;1412811791;mats_cd03;he has his cult and we have ours
865587;1412811808;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 no. they have their cults and we have a culture.
865588;1412811813;mircea_popescu;the difference is staggering.
865589;1412811837;mircea_popescu;course... we don't dance nearly as well.
865590;1412811903;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: Which point?
865591;1412811904;mircea_popescu;"BRANSON, MOAmong the things that I dislike most in this world are patriotism, religion, tourist traps, country music, and the Walmart corporation. So I traveled to the one area of this nation that captures them all. It did not go as planned."
865592;1412811912;mircea_popescu;uh that's a weird trail mix..
865593;1412811927;mircea_popescu;justusranvier http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2014#865561
865594;1412811930;assbot;Logged on 08-10-2014 23:36:46; thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2im4zv/gavin_andresen_proposes_bitcoin_hard_fork_to/cl3pga6
865595;1412812022;BingoBoingo;You know at this point the shit Gavin proposes on the roadmap has to suggest a three letter agency gave him an explosive buttplug.
865596;1412812039;thestringpuller;That reminds me of Man on Fire.
865597;1412812050;justusranvier;Oh, that one. Sorry, having less-than-optimal connectivity to my bouncer right now
865598;1412812052;BingoBoingo;Good movie, Denzel at his best.
865599;1412812053;thestringpuller;Where Denzel puts a C4 block in the rectum of a police chief
865600;1412812084;mircea_popescu;ss your heart" Southern affectation of intense, polite agreement with everything that makes a mockery of any attempt at challenging conversation. Even when Bucky started ranting about various street artists and why they are or are not sellouts, Berry would strenuously agree, despite the fact thatand I don't think I'm speaking out of turn herethe street art scene in Branson is rather limited. Banksy's new piece? "
865601;1412812084;mircea_popescu;Uh HUH!" Dan Witz's mosh pit paintings? "AbsoLUTEly!" This is actually a clever form of communications ju-jitsu, because, over time, you start adopting the same affectation just to fit in, until one day you hear yourself saying "That ghost tour was AMAZING!" and you wonder if you have lost your identity somewhere along Highway 86.
865602;1412812084;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
865603;1412812103;mircea_popescu;dude, that article's something else. buncha tiresome hippies rolling their eyes at b uncha tiresome fargo inhabitants.
865604;1412812125;mircea_popescu;how the fuck do the gawker idjits figure they're any better than the ozarks idiots just through being a different color...
865605;1412812172;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Best part. The authors and subjects... all white as gypsum
865606;1412812179;justusranvier;This was a more important thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl2fbhx
865607;1412812180;assbot;justusranvier comments on A Scalability Roadmap | The Bitcoin Foundation
865608;1412812203;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i didn't mean that color. i just meant, red prius roling headlights at white prius for being such a mainstream pos car.
865609;1412812215;BingoBoingo;Ah
865610;1412812221;justusranvier;go a few parents up to finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarting po
865611;1412812253;justusranvier;stupid flakey wifi...
865612;1412812291;mircea_popescu;lmao your wifi did that ?!
865613;1412812301;BingoBoingo;Even thermos doubts Gavin https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ighvq/a_scalability_roadmap_the_bitcoin_foundation/cl25hmw
865614;1412812301;assbot;theymos comments on A Scalability Roadmap | The Bitcoin Foundation
865615;1412812314;pete_dushenski;my third response to gavin for the day: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-30754
865616;1412812316;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
865617;1412812316;mircea_popescu;anyway, i know what you're saying, it's sensible, but also a very hard problem.
865618;1412812345;pete_dushenski;and i'm off to have two lovely romanians make me a home-cooked meal!
865619;1412812346;justusranvier;I have a... nonstandard irc client configuration
865620;1412812431;justusranvier;I have a vm running Xorg on a VPS, and I connect this desktop remotely using Spice protocol
865621;1412812447;justusranvier;Spice doesn't handle dropped packets very well...
865622;1412812477;mircea_popescu;justusranvier so then what happens actually is that if you press a key it sends a packet over and if you depress it similarly
865623;1412812486;mircea_popescu;and so if it misses a packet in there you just keep on typing n ?
865624;1412812499;justusranvier;apparently so
865625;1412812499;mircea_popescu;this boggles the mind
865626;1412812508;mircea_popescu;it may be the worst design i ever heard of
865627;1412812604;bounce;"house of cards" is still industry best practice. carry on.
865628;1412812654;justusranvier;On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop
865629;1412812728;BingoBoingo;http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2014/10/sayreville_high_school_football_hazing_parent_reveals_sexual_nature_of_locker_room_ritual_exclusive.html
865630;1412812728;assbot;Sayreville football parent reveals sexual nature of alleged locker room hazing ritual (Exclusive) | NJ.com
865631;1412813164;thestringpuller;;;google web of trust database
865632;1412813165;gribble;Check links against the Web of Trust database - Meta Stack Exchange: ; WOT Services - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; "World's Largest Public Hacker Database" | Forum | WOT (Web of Trust): you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. government. (or any other government). Other than holding citizenship and in the interests of absolute full disclosure, I served briefly in the military. This isn't text or me saying it
865740;1412815970;asciilifeform;lulzies
865741;1412815982;mircea_popescu;such nonsense, really. people this frail have no business in the public view. take a mcd job and be happy there
865742;1412816040;BingoBoingo;Plus to that is McD's is probably more a technology business than most startups
865743;1412816063;BingoBoingo;A lot of automation there
865744;1412816087;mircea_popescu;yeah
865745;1412816125;mircea_popescu;Thats awful, but you gotta admit hilarious! Once again, high-fives all around. This is the world we have created.
865746;1412816132;mircea_popescu;dude everyone fancies themselves a "we" and a world creator
865747;1412816140;mircea_popescu;anyway, enough of that derpage.
865748;1412816154;bounce;using a lot of automated (and suitably squaddie-proofed) tools does not a "technology company" make
865749;1412816157;*;asciilifeform spent 3 days getting a wireless card to work, all because some shitgnome silently removed support for 'wireless extensions' in a driver (e.g. 'iwconfig') in the name of chope and hange.
865750;1412816199;bounce;linux and wireless is a neverending three stack soap opera
865751;1412816201;BingoBoingo;bounce, but they fuel even more automated and idiotproof machines
865752;1412816284;asciilifeform;bounce: only really an issue on laptops, where you can't install a civilized replacement for $gizmo
865753;1412816307;mircea_popescu;well... usb.
865754;1412816326;asciilifeform;then it isn't a laptop, but a crate of crapolade on wires
865755;1412816350;asciilifeform;that, e.g., you can't switch off (how does the usb dongle behave on power-low mode? etc)
865756;1412816389;asciilifeform; I think you can improve your device by communicating with the host in any other way (LED and webcam, speaker and microphone, whatever), other than as a USB device, which I don't think is the most secure interface for your usage case. No, I didn't have anyone else tell me to tell you this!
865757;1412816391;asciilifeform;lol!
865758;1412816393;asciilifeform;i can't resist!
865759;1412816402;bounce;so !up and at'em
865760;1412816412;asciilifeform;!up ninjashogun
865761;1412816440;kakobrekla;i took out the wifi card in one of my laptops. im sure i can install another card.
865762;1412816467;BingoBoingo;reeses: 'Muricanized AK http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/bcam02.jpg << Nao Pink
865763;1412816472;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: quite a few of the newer boxes deliberately choke if you install an aftermarket card (if you can even find one that fits the slot)
865764;1412816490;bounce;needs more hello kitty decals
865765;1412816519;ninjashogun;this is the actual pastebin, so we're not being selective - http://pastebin.com/hT9RJN0S
865766;1412816519;assbot; you're not correct that I have any connection with the u.s. govern - Pastebin.com
865767;1412816529;ninjashogun;thanks, assbot lol
865768;1412816541;asciilifeform;right
865769;1412816542;ninjashogun;that is not an actual title, just the first line that was already quoted.
865770;1412816568;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Most laptops with bios locks on card models accept any mini-pci-e wireless cards in the second, cellular modem mini-pcie with just a bit of tape to cover a pin
865771;1412816575;mircea_popescu;http://data.whicdn.com/images/15549266/hello-kitty-580x886_large.jpg ?
865772;1412816586;mats_cd03;such praise for asciilifeform
865773;1412816592;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: not this one.
865774;1412816599;BingoBoingo;Ah
865775;1412816644;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: at any rate, these are legion.
865776;1412816679;asciilifeform;the correct solution would be to quit doing work that requires laptops, but i cannot afford this.
865777;1412816741;bounce;what? no. build your own laptop. :-p
865778;1412816766;bounce;bunny huang did. well, the mainboard part. the rest is still "some assembly required".
865779;1412816773;asciilifeform;bounce: that is not a laptop.
865780;1412816782;asciilifeform;a turd is not a sausage, even if you eat with relish.
865781;1412816802;bounce;well, a SMOD then.
865782;1412816828;asciilifeform;bounce: http://oglaf.com/delusionist
865783;1412816828;assbot;Delusionist
865784;1412816965;ninjashogun;asciilifeform, that is a hilarious cartoon. the punchline is great.
865785;1412817712;BingoBoingo;!up moldysnizz
865786;1412817747;moldysnizz;Well, hi there
865787;1412817751;BingoBoingo;Hello
865788;1412817769;moldysnizz;I was just about to bitch that I funked up my gpg key, but it seems to be working again.
865789;1412817780;moldysnizz;Had to make a new one, the old had expired.
865790;1412817791;moldysnizz;Not really sure what the propper protocal is.
865791;1412817837;BingoBoingo;Don't put expiration dates on the keys?
865792;1412817851;moldysnizz;Hmmm
865793;1412817853;moldysnizz;OK
865794;1412817927;ninjashogun;guys, I've got to go, it's very late here. thanks for the up and the links, I'll talk to you next time.
865795;1412817928;TheNewDeal;;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98
865796;1412817928;gribble;0.203571428571
865797;1412817953;TheNewDeal;;;calc (21.35-1.4)/98*3600
865798;1412817953;gribble;732.857142857
865799;1412818027;moldysnizz;Crap. Gotta go to the store before beer sales end.
865800;1412818034;moldysnizz;Get some shit tickets too!
865801;1412818099;BingoBoingo;moldysnizz: Well, get to work on that
865802;1412818101;TheNewDeal;;;tslb
865803;1412818104;gribble;Time since last block: 29 minutes and 3 seconds
865804;1412818111;moldysnizz;heh. Ya, it's getting cold out.
865805;1412818121;moldysnizz;Plus, beer.
865806;1412818201;moldysnizz;When I get back may I bug you about gpg stuff? I was hope'n to test some crap out. Maybe work on a howto sheet for nubs.
865807;1412818244;BingoBoingo;moldysnizz: If I'm awake.
865808;1412818275;BingoBoingo;Now that cazalla's back trying to get back to 'Murica time for the qntra
865809;1412818275;moldysnizz;Rock'n catch ya later BingoBoingo
865810;1412818299;moldysnizz;I don't know what any of that means.
865811;1412818374;BingoBoingo;moldysnizz: There's a lot to catch up on.
865812;1412818382;*;moldysnizz nods
865813;1412818383;TomServo;TheNewDeal: https://www.kimonolabs.com/bitcoin/correlator
865814;1412818384;assbot;kimono : Bitcoin Correlator
865815;1412818402;TheNewDeal;gracias
865816;1412818445;moldysnizz;Oh. I'm teathered to my phone. Need znc, must logout
865817;1412818450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00074202 = 13.8387 BTC [-] {2}
865818;1412818452;TomServo;de nada
865819;1412819828;nanotube; nanotube: how come I can wget the downloads on http://cahier2.ww7.be/bitcoinmirror/otc/today/ <- i think you probably mean "cant", and the answer is i don't know, neofutur keeps that mirror. you can wget from bitcoin-otc.com/otc/
865820;1412819828;assbot;Index of /bitcoinmirror/otc/today
865821;1412820019;thestringpuller;thanks nanotube! i didn't know the main one.
865822;1412820116;cazalla;xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference
865823;1412820193;nanotube;np :)
865824;1412820399;BingoBoingo;;;later tell moldysnizz off to bed
865825;1412820399;gribble;The operation succeeded.
865826;1412820950;danielpbarron;;;rate ninjashogun -1 doesn't understand the WoT http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#865707
865827;1412820952;assbot;Logged on 09-10-2014 00:45:00; ninjashogun: asciilifeform, if I wanted to build up a WoT reputation I would just make a new nick and do some low-value transactions.
865828;1412820952;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from 1 to -1.
865829;1412821267;thestringpuller;oh its danielpbarron
865830;1412821273;thestringpuller;i haven't seen you in a bit
865831;1412821404;mircea_popescu; xanthyos, start a garden, makes the world of difference < << actually this is quite good advice.
865832;1412821437;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron it's generally the common refuge of the inept, to pretend that "if they wanted"
865833;1412821477;thestringpuller;you garden in your new place mircea_popescu ?
865834;1412821939;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: nubbins`: you guys and your normcore style << do elaborate! << this thing where one just barfs raw HTML elements all over the page
865835;1412821970;nubbins`;did you paint your house grey?
865836;1412821975;thickasthieves;Tim Draper to head CSIRO
865837;1412821988;nubbins`;with blue shutters that turn purple when you open them?
865838;1412822027;cazalla;catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks
865839;1412822036;thickasthieves;hmm
865840;1412822041;thickasthieves;is my google lying to me
865841;1412822074;thickasthieves;yeha it is
865842;1412822078;thickasthieves;fukn spam sites
865843;1412822105;nubbins`;cazalla weird, i wonder why
865844;1412822115;cazalla;yeah, i'm reading it's venture capitalist Larry Marshall
865845;1412822128;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoin-foundations-financial-standards-working-group-publishes-agenda/
865846;1412822140;nubbins`;you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults
865847;1412822148;cazalla;nubbins`, i actually like it
865848;1412822173;nubbins`;well, there's that :D
865849;1412822188;cazalla;but it is something that can be improved later
865850;1412822244;thestringpuller;make it work first
865851;1412822247;thestringpuller;make it pretty later?
865852;1412822410;cazalla;anyway, while driving such long distances, i got to listening to let's talk bitcoin episodes and in one of the latests, adreas concedes bitcoin isn't for africa but maybe now philippines, argentina
865853;1412822487;thestringpuller;did he say why not africa?
865854;1412822509;cazalla;well, he said africa in a few decades maybe
865855;1412822523;cazalla;but more 2nd world because they have better internets
865856;1412822553;thestringpuller;argentina uses bitcoin for remittence right now from what I've read
865857;1412822562;thestringpuller;argentines use*
865858;1412822570;cazalla;maybe i use 2nd world wrong
865859;1412822644;thestringpuller;probably less red tape to deploy an atm in the 2nd world.
865860;1412822652;thestringpuller;if none at all.
865861;1412822734;mod6;cazalla: i like how it looks. simple. and looks good with lynx.
865862;1412823035;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller nah can't be bothered. but also am not depressed.
865863;1412823048;mircea_popescu;nubbins` how do you do html, xml-encapsed ?!
865864;1412823115;mircea_popescu;o look at that, hanbot qntra.
865865;1412823215;thestringpuller;"Not only is this confusing for consumers, it does not fit in existing systems and software for accounting practices." << uh it fits an0
865866;1412823221;thestringpuller;and zero asset...
865867;1412823229;mircea_popescu; you can do minimalist without stooping to using browser defaults << i don't think that's stooping.
865868;1412823256;*;hanbot will write for gray and blue and purple sites
865869;1412823278;asciilifeform;http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg33095.html << turd? yes. but here's a little story behind it. think, why would anyone build a device like this?
865870;1412823278;assbot;Re: USB reset xhci_hcd for ELAN touchscreen -- Linux Input
865871;1412823332;mircea_popescu;so the formidable mpoe-pr lives :D
865872;1412823347;asciilifeform;(what kind of device? a 2d plane digitizer that sits on usb, meant to be used as 'touch' gizmo. and it pisses GBs of usb disconnect garbage into log -if and only if you don't use it-.)
865873;1412823350;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller the "working group" hasn't yet heard of bitcoin
865874;1412823358;mircea_popescu;they're belabouring on the outskirts of the fiat world still.
865875;1412823393;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform like a canary of sorts ?
865876;1412823417;asciilifeform;sorta.
865877;1412823454;asciilifeform;why i even mention it? because it's an example of a device that loudly, proudly, pisses on the usb spec (spirit and letter thereof) but is tolerated because for most people - it appears harmless.
865878;1412823531;asciilifeform;but build a system where it isn't milked (usb pipe with non-null payloads kept going) and drown in shit.
865879;1412823603;asciilifeform;and incidentally, i know just how the author arrived at this - he probably used the 'watchdog' feature of the micro which implements the device
865880;1412823624;asciilifeform;i.e., register that cycles its power if not updated every x msec.
865881;1412823650;asciilifeform;and only updated guess where - interrupt handler (that's only entered if os is using the digitizer, naturally)
865882;1412823668;asciilifeform;i don't even have to disassemble the beast, extract the fw, and reverse it to have a pretty solid guess
865883;1412823676;asciilifeform;moral: turdware is everywhere
865884;1412823799;asciilifeform;moral2: 'crashes as response to unexpected inputs - incl. lack of input - are ok' attitude is a plague that corrupts everything it touches.
865885;1412823859;asciilifeform;moral3: it is contagious. because it is impossible to implement a sane os which handles this insane device and adds up to sanity.
865886;1412823869;mircea_popescu;could just ignore it
865887;1412823876;asciilifeform;but that's not sane.
865888;1412823882;mircea_popescu;there's nothing insane about refusing to support lunacy
865889;1412823883;asciilifeform;'enumerated badness'
865890;1412823894;mircea_popescu;the converse, the expectation that everything is s upported, is insane.
865891;1412823931;asciilifeform;yes. but it didn't happen in empty space, but from the 'tower of babel' situation
865892;1412823942;mircea_popescu;you can't install airplane flaps on your car. somehow this is perfectly comprehensible. why should you be able to use a noncompliant usb stick ?
865893;1412823944;asciilifeform;why the everliving fuck does there have to be more than one way to talk to a mouse ?
865894;1412823970;mircea_popescu;the false dichotomy here being that either you apple (onlt accept stuff we made) or else foss (accept any turd)
865895;1412823975;asciilifeform;i recently had the occasion to read a treatise on machine screws.
865896;1412823977;mircea_popescu;the correct solution is, only accept stuff that does x y z
865897;1412823994;asciilifeform;somehow, the world arrived at a handful of precisely defined thread types that are interoperable.
865898;1412823996;mircea_popescu;whoever makes it, either makes it to spec or it won't work. period and enforced.
865899;1412824001;asciilifeform;precisely.
865900;1412824034;mircea_popescu;this is enough of a revolution in computing as is.
865901;1412824043;mircea_popescu;build a machine from the ground up, that works like that.
865902;1412824053;asciilifeform;obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=37
865903;1412824054;assbot;Loper OS » The Hardware Culture, or: What They Build, Works! Can We Say the Same?
865904;1412824062;mircea_popescu;and sure, the coindesks of the world will derp about how "xe has difficulty with bitcoin". so ?
865905;1412824073;asciilifeform;^ written long ago
865906;1412824084;mircea_popescu;fuck them, they should be thankful for this difficulty now, and humbly submit
865907;1412824089;mircea_popescu;the difficulty later will be worse.
865908;1412824091;thestringpuller;!up jacoblyles
865909;1412824173;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: my turd, if it had a point, mainly had the point of - the grave harm of 'tolerance.'
865910;1412824200;mircea_popescu;well, tolerance understood as, "ignore it".
865911;1412824216;mircea_popescu;as much as we'd all like to see little machine guns come out of the chassis and blow things away
865912;1412824228;asciilifeform;when you turn up one of these pieces of junk, on your desk, or worse yet, chained to it (yes, you bought one set - can buy another, what'll the crapolade be in the next gadget?) - it happens because other folks - lived with it.
865913;1412824235;asciilifeform;because someone decided to be 'tolerant.'
865914;1412824239;asciilifeform;and 'helpful.'
865915;1412824283;mircea_popescu;apparently tolerance as in the libtard notion has a lot of drawbacks
865916;1412824299;asciilifeform;forced mistake, in many cases - sometimes, you have the luxury of setting fire to the whole shebang and walking away
865917;1412824300;mircea_popescu;and the supposed benefits are not really that readily apparent. what's the benefit to beint tolerant supposed to be, again ?
865918;1412824302;asciilifeform;other times - no
865919;1412824311;mircea_popescu;something something powerless people ?. ahem... fuck em ?
865920;1412824380;asciilifeform;somebody gets fucked, regardless, just like something had to burn to power my computer to write this (precious little fission or hydro where i live)
865921;1412824409;*;danielpbarron is about to be on donkdown http://www.donkdown.com/live-radio/
865922;1412824410;assbot;DonkDown – Live Radio
865923;1412824410;asciilifeform;question instead is, what burns, what kind of exhaust gas
865924;1412824426;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron have fun
865925;1412824509;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: familiar with 'postel's law' ?
865926;1412824528;mircea_popescu;ie robustness
865927;1412824542;asciilifeform;it's a little gibblet of dreary nonsense parroted in defense of the the kind of crap described earlier.
865928;1412824554;asciilifeform;'be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send.'
865929;1412824568;mircea_popescu;it's not nearly as smart as it would want to be. its direct equivalent would be "never rape anyone and enjoy being raped whenever it happens"
865930;1412824574;mircea_popescu;it wouldn't go very far now would it.
865931;1412824582;asciilifeform;perfectly sane 2nd half is like a needle through which 1st clause is injected through your brain.
865932;1412824600;asciilifeform;lol
865933;1412824628;mircea_popescu;myeah. funny how obvious the obvious is once the correspondingly larger sex-and-money processor is put to the task.
865934;1412824686;asciilifeform;incidentally, the postel crap reminds me of the fountain through which the bulk of modern pc retardation flows forth: the web browser. as in, literally the only reason one cannot use os setup circa, e.g., 2001 (with a patch here & there)
865935;1412824696;asciilifeform;because modern111!1111 browser won't build there
865936;1412824733;asciilifeform;and if built (miracle, hand-massaged bottle-fed libraries, etc) won't run.
865937;1412824742;asciilifeform;because won't fit in 64M of the machine in question
865938;1412824758;asciilifeform;for no particular or identifiable reason.
865939;1412824811;asciilifeform;why, precisely, does it take four megs to render a tab filled with 1kb of ascii text?
865940;1412824831;asciilifeform;because herpderpr0gr355?
865941;1412825206;*;xanthyos
865942;1412825710;mike_c;<+cazalla> catching up on logs and ya know, everyone shits on how qntra looks << luckily that's about the 50th most important thing..
865943;1412825738;mike_c;when's hanbot going to start contributing?
865944;1412825769;mike_c;probably can't curse as much as on the forums
865945;1412825844;thestringpuller;probably not a need since the intended audience isn't retards
865946;1412825865;mike_c;there is a need for good writers that know bitcoin.
865947;1412825881;thestringpuller;not a need for cursing*
865948;1412825889;thestringpuller;sorry for ambiguity
865949;1412825889;mike_c;oh :) yeah.
865950;1412825916;hanbot;news doesn't call for it so often, i don't think.
865951;1412825918;mike_c;i've actually been impressed that they've managed to keep from cursing while talking about VC's and such
865952;1412825990;hanbot;mike_c> when's hanbot going to start contributing? << like an hour ago?
865953;1412825997;mike_c;oh? cool.
865954;1412826015;mike_c;look at that, i'm behind the times.
865955;1412826127;mike_c;i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again.
865956;1412826129;hanbot;gotta try new things :)
865957;1412826207;thestringpuller;or bitcoin magazine, or r/bitcoin...
865958;1412826723;mircea_popescu; because modern111!1111 browser won't build there << what is the "modern browser" for ?
865959;1412826752;mircea_popescu; when's hanbot going to start contributing? << latest was hers neh ?
865960;1412826791;mircea_popescu; i am really excited about this thing, i hope it keeps up. it would be so awesome if i never had to look at coindesk again. << you have NO IDEEA how awesome this thing actually is
865961;1412826800;mircea_popescu;the reveal, late oct/early november
865962;1412826907;mike_c;exciting!
865963;1412827108;asciilifeform;what is the "modern browser" for << search engines & their output, mostly.
865964;1412827115;decimation;asciilifeform: somehow the browser has morphed into the 'new os' - and it's even shittier than wintel
865965;1412827234;asciilifeform;decimation: browser is 'judas goat' that leads folks into places they would never voluntarily go
865966;1412827254;asciilifeform;in terms of crapolade accumulation in the conceptual stack
865967;1412827339;asciilifeform;browser is why 'i wanna run my old freebsd 4.7 box' - 'sorry, no, not if you still want to log in & pay your electric bill online.'
865968;1412827377;decimation;old analog cell phones allocated 25 khz of dedicated bandwidth to each call (as I recall)
865969;1412827396;decimation;'modern' phones allocate ~8kbit/sec w/lossy compression
865970;1412827408;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo will appreciate how it is entirely impossible to use a mac os 9 (or prior) box for a daily machine today.
865971;1412827430;asciilifeform;decimation: yes, and somehow we aren't supposed to notice the atrocious quality.
865972;1412827447;asciilifeform;and unlike dr. seuss and his 'whispermaphone' - not even secret.
865973;1412827458;decimation;but, you see now 'everyone' has a 'phone'
865974;1412827474;decimation;'everyone' can 'use' a 'computer' and 'the internet'
865975;1412827475;asciilifeform;this is the basic phenomenon here.
865976;1412827479;asciilifeform;'everyone'ization.
865977;1412827555;decimation;I had opportunity to use an 'old' agilent spectrum analyzer a few days ago
865978;1412827558;mircea_popescu;decimation you know who was talking on the cellphone back in those old days ?
865979;1412827563;decimation;it lacked windows, made me feel good
865980;1412827572;decimation;mircea_popescu: certianly not 'everyone'
865981;1412827604;mircea_popescu;i mean what, hollywood used it to establish just how speshul redford is to make sharon stone fucking him for money acceptable to the housewife in attendance
865982;1412827624;mircea_popescu;i mean moore not stone
865983;1412827629;mircea_popescu;i always mix my starlets.
865984;1412827654;decimation;remember the 80's movies & tv where the rich guy in the limo has a 'car phone'?
865985;1412827670;asciilifeform;pre-cellular (trunked radio)
865986;1412827673;asciilifeform;even soviets had them.
865987;1412827685;asciilifeform;half a dozen or so per city, max.
865988;1412827749;decimation;you can buy an 'agilent e4406a' on ebay for ~$1k, covers 7mhz to 4 ghz, windows free
865989;1412827777;dub;dad had one in his porshe 924
865990;1412827784;decimation;my understanding is that early analog cell phones weren't even trunked, they had a dedicated channel while connected
865991;1412827807;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/progress-and-revolution/ << btw.
865992;1412827808;assbot;“Progress” and “Revolution” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
865993;1412827940;asciilifeform;incidentally, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3UNjNe5lD8
865994;1412827940;assbot;The Lorax -- Dr. Seuss (1972 original version) - YouTube
865995;1412828071;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/progress-and-revolution/
865996;1412828214;decimation;the french revolution wasn't only caused by the socialists, it was also caused by the pathetic derpiness of the 'nobility' and monarchy
865997;1412828257;decimation;many of whom were actively trying to undermine the other nobility in the name of 'progress' etc
865998;1412828396;mircea_popescu;not in the name of progress, no.
865999;1412828485;mircea_popescu;i don't really like the mr trololo treatment
866000;1412828493;decimation;in the name of égalité?
866001;1412828604;mircea_popescu;well this is a very difficult question. but a good part of it is that nietzsche and sartre are not innovators except formally. fundamentally, they were retracing preexisting ideas,
866002;1412828620;mircea_popescu;and so the superman and the existentialist are both models of the late french aristocracy
866003;1412828646;mircea_popescu;people with the drive to push the absurd quite very far, and with the means to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages.
866004;1412828727;xanthyos;http://www.donkdown.com/media/DDRadio-2014-Oct-08_19_04_08.mp3 << danielpbarron bit starts 77 min in, gonna listen to this because i was too busy pissing on my mom's driveway when the show was live
866005;1412828875;mircea_popescu; i don't really like the mr trololo treatment << this was re the seuss link
866006;1412828885;decimation;I hadn't made the connection between french elite absurdity and Nietzsche - an interesting connection
866007;1412828908;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: somebody (pixar?) recently came out with an even worse one
866008;1412828920;asciilifeform;that actually made the 1972 picture look good.
866009;1412829069;decimation;the reddit of 1789, france was the Estates-General and the derpage associated with the third estate
866010;1412829211;decimation;;;ticker
866011;1412829213;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 351.84, Best ask: 353.71, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 351.84, 24 hour volume: 28774.86534965, 24 hour low: 327.01, 24 hour high: 359.87, 24 hour vwap: 345.196943781
866012;1412829383;decimation;in contrast to the French revolution, the American revolution seems much more... conservative? The result of the American revolution largely enshrining the existing governing arrangement in place (while sowing the seeds of future destruction with lofty idiotic language that no one at the time took seriously)
866013;1412829666;decimation;!up stormlight
866014;1412830025;decimation;http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/ << "September 30, around 5am" << wait - was that Argentina time? Because they are UTC-3, which makes it almost 2300 29 Sep local time?
866015;1412830026;assbot;Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
866016;1412830056;xanthyos;lol danielpbarron 97 minute mark with the hypothetical situation of you catching elton john buttfucking in your hotel
866017;1412830265;The20YearIRCloud;That's a bit scary
866018;1412830715;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: people with the drive... to actually do so irl rather than in their own minds/reddit pages << they would if they could.
866019;1412831608;decimation;!up AndrewJackson
866020;1412832782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00074806 = 4.3387 BTC [+] {2}
866021;1412832897;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ << this stuff is such greatness.
866022;1412832898;assbot;Digging through archives yields gold pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
866023;1412832909;mircea_popescu;"The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigg
866024;1412832910;mircea_popescu;er, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I
866025;1412832910;mircea_popescu;have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, as in Weimar Germany."
866026;1412833197;The20YearIRCloud;Maybe i can steal your bitcoin news website
866027;1412836666;mircea_popescu;%d
866028;1412836669;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 311414.90 in 403 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.42
866029;1412837141;mircea_popescu;Confirmed total: 19000 BTC
866030;1412837142;mircea_popescu;heh!
866031;1412837438;RagnarDanneskjol;thats a nice number = 5414.88 oz xau
866032;1412837512;mircea_popescu;basically bitbet hgas paid 190 btc in dividends to date
866033;1412837530;mircea_popescu;not that many things in bitcoin with a better record
866034;1412837569;cazalla;this upcoming article, too speculative? some random shit kicker owes $$ while his company begins accepting bitcoin
866035;1412837574;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "Suppose you want to support strings and have a string comparison instruction. You might think that "it's done in the hardware", so it's blindingly fast. It isn't, because the hardware still has to access memory, one word per cycle. A superscalar/VLIW assembly loop would run just as quickly; the only thing you'd save is a few bytes for instruction encoding. On the other hand, your string comparison thingi
866036;1412837574;mircea_popescu;e has got you into several sorts of trouble" << my question is, why one word per cycle ?
866037;1412837597;mircea_popescu;cazalla not enough data to make a call
866038;1412837789;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/james-home-services-to-begin-trialling-bitcoin/
866039;1412837888;mircea_popescu;cazalla imo it's good.
866040;1412838009;mircea_popescu;!up pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa
866041;1412838020;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;hello
866042;1412838034;fluffypony;that's a lot of a's
866043;1412838092;mircea_popescu;what brings you and your a's here ?
866044;1412838123;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;oh I liked your comment about bitcoin not being for poor people
866045;1412838132;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;on twitter someone quoted of you today
866046;1412838145;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;I am friends of DPB and Xan
866047;1412838165;mircea_popescu;a ok
866048;1412838165;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;but I am from SF bay area
866049;1412838170;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;not east coast
866050;1412838207;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;my ex gf is a fake socialist who works for btcjam
866051;1412838216;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;and talks about bitcoin helping poor people
866052;1412838228;mircea_popescu;is she hot ?
866053;1412838228;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;and i decided to become a full blown capitalist
866054;1412838232;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;since love dosent exist
866055;1412838253;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;she was a hot samoan
866056;1412838262;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;samoan white girl
866057;1412838280;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;https://btcjam.com/contact
866058;1412838280;assbot;About Us - BTCJam
866059;1412838283;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;"alexis"
866060;1412838285;pakaaaaaaaaaaaaa;lol
866061;1412838326;pakaka;these millineal socialist commies into bitcoin are dangerous
866062;1412838335;pakaka;millinenial*
866063;1412838339;pakaka;however you spell it
866064;1412838410;pakaka;that site is sort of irrelvent with what I have heard about the WOT though.
866065;1412838484;mircea_popescu;so good for you.
866066;1412838566;pakaka;I wonder if andreas antonopoulos is a Fed.
866067;1412838777;xanthyos;hi pakaka
866068;1412838864;pakaka;hi
866069;1412838897;pakaka;i guess andreas antonopoulos didnt have any cash and had alexis buy him a pack of cigs and he said he would send her bitcoin for it
866070;1412838902;pakaka;which he never did
866071;1412838906;pakaka;#scam
866072;1412838920;pakaka;after some bitcoin meetup in sf a few months ago
866073;1412838946;pakaka;what a chump
866074;1412838950;xanthyos;how do you collateralize loans for something whose value is so volatile?
866075;1412838962;xanthyos;are they a bank?
866076;1412839039;mircea_popescu;lol this scamming the noobie carnie sounds so mark twain like.
866077;1412839082;xanthyos;i sure do love painting this fence
866078;1412839148;mircea_popescu;anyway. that's all for me, take it ezzy
866079;1412839507;pakaka;http://tinychat.com/ssd6/1c30bb/71/pakaloloz/obeisance/10-09-2014
866080;1412839507;assbot;obeisance/pakaloloz (10-09-2014) - Tinychat
866081;1412839708;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ivee-device-can-now-quote-bitcoin-prices/
866082;1412844587;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/debitway-to-help-cryptsy-move-into-canadian-market/
866083;1412844876;thickasthieves;;;ticker
866084;1412844877;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 367.0, Best ask: 368.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 368.0, 24 hour volume: 32532.57837044, 24 hour low: 334.61, 24 hour high: 370.0, 24 hour vwap: 349.544729812
866085;1412845667;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/mirakl-enables-its-customers-to-accept-bitcoin/
866086;1412849069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00074148 = 4.4489 BTC [-]
866087;1412849585;thickasthieves;icahn is sending an open letter to apple today or something
866088;1412849599;thickasthieves;i bet it says they should buy paypal when it spins off
866089;1412849677;thickasthieves;organofcorti has a nice post today http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2014/10/106-does-price-still-lead-difficulty.html
866090;1412849677;assbot;Neighbourhood Pool Watch: 10.6 Does price still lead difficulty?
866091;1412850039;RagnarDanneskjol;http://qz.com/278012/nope-chinas-economy-hasnt-yet-surpassed-americas/
866092;1412850039;assbot;Nope, China’s economy hasn’t yet surpassed America’s – Quartz
866093;1412850512;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
866094;1412850527;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all
866095;1412850535;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 366.19, vol: 32154.98743247 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 360.0, vol: 16417.66327 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 365.4, vol: 37100.03532424 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 369.98, vol: 13.35213212 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 361.514412, vol: 68989.92250000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 379.99999, vol: 17.16269164 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 367.4016, vol: 182.64802365 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
866096;1412850699;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#866032 < no, hasnt paid 190 yet
866097;1412850700;assbot;Logged on 09-10-2014 06:51:52; mircea_popescu: basically bitbet hgas paid 190 btc in dividends to date
866098;1412850767;kakobrekla;as earnings / div come from resolved, not confirmed.
866099;1412850872;kakobrekla;current number seems to be ~135
866100;1412850921;kakobrekla;and ~50 in the pipe
866101;1412851262;RagnarDanneskjol;http://bitcoinobserver.com/presentations/2014-10-01-Bitcoin-not-a-currency-like-informational-commodity--Jan-Bergstra.pdf
866102;1412851400;RagnarDanneskjol;https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/765.pdf
866103;1412851415;RagnarDanneskjol;[The Bitcoin Backbone Protocol: Analysis and Applications]
866104;1412853306;BingoBoingo;%v
866105;1412853308;atcbot;[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 180 Ask: 225 Last Price: 255 30d-Vol: 174k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 199
866106;1412854455;BingoBoingo;http://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux_FAQ#Do_you_support_systemd.3F
866107;1412854457;assbot;Funtoo Linux FAQ - Funtoo
866108;1412856200;thickasthieves;btc going nuts
866109;1412856202;thickasthieves;;;ticker
866110;1412856204;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 376.01, Best ask: 378.88, Bid-ask spread: 2.87000, Last trade: 379.17, 24 hour volume: 31550.38990955, 24 hour low: 336.25, 24 hour high: 379.99, 24 hour vwap: 354.61002523
866111;1412856208;kakobrekla;boooo
866112;1412856230;kakobrekla;i just got used to being poor again what is this
866113;1412856242;RagnarDanneskjol;jayzus
866114;1412856317;kakobrekla;i guess we will eat meat today!
866115;1412856385;thickasthieves;have some cake too
866116;1412856402;thickasthieves;alas i will not eat meat today
866117;1412856433;kakobrekla;why
866118;1412856437;thickasthieves;vegan
866119;1412856439;thickasthieves;:)
866120;1412856456;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Doormouse and Boar?
866121;1412856474;kakobrekla;ah right tat , forgot
866122;1412856483;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo lmao
866123;1412856564;kakobrekla;any of the two is better than chestnuts
866124;1412856584;kakobrekla;fukin hate those.
866125;1412856791;BingoBoingo;Almonds though are the worst, taste like cyanide.
866126;1412856878;cazalla;vanilla almonds are the best
866127;1412857061;cazalla;and with that, qntra australia signs off for the night
866128;1412857139;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=810921.0
866129;1412857140;assbot;BITCOINTALK STAFF QUIETLY BANS PEOPLE FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THEM
866130;1412857146;fluffypony;"Media must follow certain ethical standards when reporting the news and at CCN, our team follows the standards to the letter."
866131;1412857151;fluffypony;o
866132;1412857152;fluffypony;k
866133;1412857174;fluffypony;oh that quote is from here: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcointalk-staff-quietly-bans-people-speaking/
866134;1412857498;thickasthieves;lol at the included pic and caption
866135;1412857517;thickasthieves;Decentraliiiiiiiized Future ture ture!
866136;1412857721;mats_cd03;i just put some gluten in a marinade of sriracha, chopped garlic, and soy sauce
866137;1412857753;fluffypony;this is what most altcoins are like IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LKYLnrTMq0
866138;1412857753;assbot;Funny high school RAP BATTLE - YouTube
866139;1412857757;mats_cd03;it shatters the mind how protein dense gluten is
866140;1412857906;mats_cd03;5oz of seitan could be as much as 120g protein
866141;1412858104;fluffypony;thickasthieves: when did you go vegan?
866142;1412858122;thickasthieves;nearly 3yrs i think
866143;1412858126;thickasthieves;was veg before that
866144;1412858137;mats_cd03;why do you do it
866145;1412858151;mats_cd03;waifu?
866146;1412858228;thickasthieves;well, if you really wanna know, it's somewhat spiritual i guess, i dont like the idea of caging and torturing animals
866147;1412858282;thickasthieves;i could get more into it, but mostly people dont give a shit
866148;1412858304;fluffypony;my wife's just gone vegan (she's been vegetarian since she was 14)
866149;1412858314;fluffypony;also because of the way animals are treated
866150;1412858328;fluffypony;even the ones that aren't used for meat
866151;1412858331;thickasthieves;yes the wife is a factor, but it was my idea to go vegan
866152;1412858352;thickasthieves;i never ate much meat before i was vegetarian
866153;1412858356;fluffypony;oh I was just comparing your reason to hers, I'm not vegetarian
866154;1412858375;thickasthieves;yeah we dont wear leather, etc
866155;1412858407;thickasthieves;i also make clear that i dont have a problem with people eating meat in and of itself
866156;1412858430;fluffypony;do you tell everyone about how amazing it is being vegan and about how there's such a variety you can eat and then spend 45 minutes telling them about your vegan xxxxxx recipe?
866157;1412858430;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY!
866158;1412858445;mats_cd03;if it was legal and you told it was tasty, i would eat people
866159;1412858449;thickasthieves;no i only talk about it when asked and always say that discalimer
866160;1412858471;fluffypony;I find most vegans have a tendency to cross over that line from "oh interesting" to "ok shut up now"
866161;1412858476;fluffypony;present company excluded
866162;1412858508;thickasthieves;well the oh shut up now is basically ALL of what we say
866163;1412858515;thickasthieves;thats why i wait to be asked
866164;1412858540;thickasthieves;meat eaters dont give a shit
866165;1412858547;thickasthieves;the paradigm is too separate
866166;1412858555;fluffypony;yeah
866167;1412858625;thickasthieves;that said, ur all fukn murderous selfish neanderthals!
866168;1412858631;thickasthieves;jk!!!
866169;1412858679;fluffypony;lol
866170;1412859318;mats_cd03;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7XyVWgoxg
866171;1412859319;assbot;Mobile network attack evolution [30c3] - YouTube
866172;1412859608;mats_cd03;http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/10/08/cyberattack-on-jpmorgan-raises-alarms-at-white-house-and-on-wall-street lol
866173;1412859930;thickasthieves;usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly
866174;1412860050;mats_cd03;dinosaurs, all of them
866175;1412860499;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
866176;1412860501;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 370.57, Best ask: 371.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 371.18, 24 hour volume: 33800.61916753, 24 hour low: 337.31, 24 hour high: 379.99, 24 hour vwap: 356.209134548
866177;1412861810;kakobrekla;what was the last assbot quit meassage
866178;1412861859;BingoBoingo;* assbot has quit (Changing host)
866179;1412861881;kakobrekla;hrm..
866180;1412861883;kakobrekla;ty.
866181;1412862228;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all
866182;1412862235;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 368.85, vol: 34574.72124614 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 362.011, vol: 16619.16569 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 365.8, vol: 42453.90134761 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 372.43, vol: 12.99009128 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 364.362138, vol: 75850.93770000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 14.93466583 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 381.42457, vol: 226.36730483 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
866183;1412863029;BingoBoingo;!up hagbardgroup
866184;1412863918;hagbardgroup;Thanks. I was told to lurk before speaking much, but 'hi all!'
866185;1412864067;ben_vulpes;people are learning
866186;1412864073;ben_vulpes;quelle suprise
866187;1412864465;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/10/8000-hacker-disclaimers.htm << mega-lol
866188;1412864716;mats_cd03;huk
866189;1412864852;nubbins`;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=124
866190;1412864870;nubbins`;HIF Q3 report
866191;1412864873;nubbins`;!up hagbardgroup
866192;1412864885;nubbins`;maybe the shoddiest "report" i've seen outta these clowns
866193;1412864919;nubbins`;they so obviously just took Q2 report and changed the details: page 3 accidentally says "2nd quarter" instead of 3rd
866194;1412864935;nubbins`;P&L monthly detail shows July, August, and... June
866195;1412864980;mats_cd03;-40BTC loss ouchies
866196;1412864982;nubbins`;not bad financials overall though, they only lost 40btc
866197;1412864994;mats_cd03;well, 40BTC loss.
866198;1412864997;nubbins`;"lost" in this context, of course, means "paid themselves"
866199;1412865013;nubbins`;'cause sorry bru operating expenses don't ya know
866200;1412865027;nubbins`;;;seen topace
866201;1412865028;gribble;topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 14 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: heh
866202;1412865043;nubbins`;;;later tell topace why are HIF reports such embarassing pieces of shit?
866203;1412865043;gribble;The operation succeeded.
866204;1412866382;kakobrekla;o hey he is still around
866205;1412866384;kakobrekla;!up topace
866206;1412866621;thickasthieves;yeesh cant leave trading desk for 45m!
866207;1412866660;thickasthieves;;;ticker
866208;1412866661;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.05, Best ask: 384.93, Bid-ask spread: 1.88000, Last trade: 384.93, 24 hour volume: 36349.21073683, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 360.59043127
866209;1412866850;nubbins`;dude, you have a desk?!
866210;1412866854;nubbins`;!up Quanttek
866211;1412866944;thickasthieves;well i have two big monitors with charts on them at least
866212;1412867048;nubbins`;next best thing
866213;1412867054;nubbins`;i'd like a desk
866214;1412867064;nubbins`;no room in the studio for one
866215;1412867216;thickasthieves;so many people have been shorting on the way up, shorts at alltime high on bitfinex
866216;1412867228;thickasthieves;theyre getting raped
866217;1412867289;thickasthieves;this is in 2.5 hrs http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7010-14
866218;1412867289;assbot;CFTCs Global Markets Advisory Committee to Meet October 9, 2014
866219;1412867335;Apocalyptic;thickasthieves, pretty lulzy
866220;1412867613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HASH] 2000 @ 0.00138002 = 2.76 BTC [-] {13}
866221;1412867847;nubbins`;canadian senate committee yesterday, cftc today
866222;1412868510;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/u-s-commodity-futures-trading-commission-meeting-on-bitcoin-derivatives-today/
866223;1412868531;BingoBoingo;Bam, news'd it up.
866224;1412868739;Apocalyptic;"to what extent the CFTC may perceive to have juridiction on the subject." // the "perceive" word is of prime importance I suspect
866225;1412868767;nubbins`;antononoypopoponpoynlyous testimony for canadian senate yesterday was pretty good
866226;1412868805;thickasthieves;i havent watched that yet, but if you say it'
866227;1412868810;thickasthieves;s good i will
866228;1412868842;mircea_popescu;nubbins` video ?
866229;1412868846;mircea_popescu;o hey there princess.
866230;1412868870;nubbins`;sec
866231;1412868881;thickasthieves;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM&feature=youtu.be#t=34m18s
866232;1412868881;assbot;Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube
866233;1412868888;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Well, maybe someone actually bothers to call their toll free number
866234;1412868899;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM&feature=youtu.be
866235;1412868899;assbot;Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Bitcoin (Oct 8, ENG) - YouTube
866236;1412868903;nubbins`;ooooo too slow
866237;1412868908;mircea_popescu;mebbe qntra publishes a summary, then i can "watch" it too
866238;1412868917;mircea_popescu;!up princessnell
866239;1412868924;princessnell;ty, howdy!
866240;1412868958;nubbins`;mircea_popescu it's more of a radio thing than a tv thing, throw it on in the bg ;p
866241;1412868964;mircea_popescu;how about you write a piece of bitcoin news and submit it to cazalla princessnell ?
866242;1412868973;mircea_popescu;nubbins` noty
866243;1412868977;mircea_popescu;the web is for text.
866244;1412868982;princessnell;for qntra?
866245;1412868985;mircea_popescu;these video heretic will all go to hell.
866246;1412868989;mircea_popescu;princessnell yeah
866247;1412868997;nubbins`;so subscribe to C-SPAN
866248;1412869002;nubbins`;they carry that in argentina, right?
866249;1412869011;mircea_popescu;i have nfi.
866250;1412869015;nubbins`;wait fuck that's the usa one
866251;1412869022;nubbins`;what channel do i watch my government on?
866252;1412869025;princessnell;sure i'll do that now
866253;1412869030;mircea_popescu;love ya.
866254;1412869033;nubbins`;CPAC
866255;1412869048;mircea_popescu;that sounds like the us communist party
866256;1412869053;nubbins`;princessnell why not transcribe that video, it's only 2 hours long ;p
866257;1412869065;mircea_popescu;why don't YOU transcribe it ?
866258;1412869087;nubbins`;hmm, because i'm not in the mood to do favors?
866259;1412869109;mircea_popescu;oic
866260;1412869136;nubbins`;mostly because transcribing 2h of video would be an incredibly arduous task
866261;1412869211;mircea_popescu;which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work.
866262;1412869239;nubbins`;it's work put on someone else tho
866263;1412869253;bounce;fobbing off is the thing to do
866264;1412869281;BingoBoingo; which kinda explains the unholy proliferation of the "vlogger". derp that can't be bothered to write shit down because it's too much work, and so instead he wants everyone to see past his out of shape flesh and obnoxiously poor vocalisation. beause that's somehow not a lot of work. << Why Vlogger's can't be relevant
866265;1412869293;BingoBoingo;It's unethical to allow it
866266;1412869310;princessnell;can't find the live cast
866267;1412869338;princessnell;oh its not for a few hours
866268;1412869339;princessnell;nm
866269;1412869371;mircea_popescu;princessnell linked above neh ?
866270;1412869397;thickasthieves;"that literally blew my mind" anotnononoopolpus
866271;1412869407;princessnell;oh the andreas vid
866272;1412869493;nubbins`;LITERALLY
866273;1412869513;nubbins`;i don't think the phrase "blew my mind" has a literal meaning
866274;1412869520;nubbins`;what does the verb "blow" mean in this context?
866275;1412869540;nubbins`;like, you blew a gasket? your mind stopped working and a part had to be replaced?
866276;1412869575;mats_cd03;maybe hes being funny
866277;1412869591;thickasthieves;"i think the most common use for bitcoin is charitable giving, donations, and tipping" antonop
866278;1412869636;thickasthieves;does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ?
866279;1412869673;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WK8MAS.txt )
866280;1412869673;BingoBoingo;!b 2
866281;1412869864;thickasthieves;"a 10-year-old can create a (crypto)currency and that currency can be as secure as the currency created by a monarch" anotnop
866282;1412869898;thickasthieves;"...and without cost"
866283;1412869902;thickasthieves;this guy....
866284;1412869957;BingoBoingo;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2irnjh/us_commodity_futures_trading_commission_meeting/
866285;1412869958;assbot;U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission Meeting on Bitcoin Derivatives Today : Bitcoin
866286;1412869969;nubbins`;thickasthieves, but is it not true 8)
866287;1412870001;thickasthieves;if it has no cost, it has no value, no security
866288;1412870051;nubbins`;i believe he meant the cost of creating it
866289;1412870060;nubbins`;sorta like how you paid $7.25 to get ATC made or w/e
866290;1412870071;Apocalyptic;%d
866291;1412870073;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 313147.49 in 383 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.33
866292;1412870090;thickasthieves;well in the context he is preaching glories of blockchain tech
866293;1412870096;thickasthieves;so it is misleading
866294;1412870107;thickasthieves;to say child coins are secure and no cost
866295;1412870120;nubbins`;ehh, you're reading too much into it
866296;1412870138;nubbins`;put another way: whether satoshi is a 10yo kid or Queen Beatrice, bitcoin is what it is
866297;1412870139;thickasthieves;maybe
866298;1412870165;thickasthieves;i think he conveniently glosses over the security aspects of the conversation
866299;1412870167;nubbins`;it's the features, not the creator, that the relevance is applied to
866300;1412870175;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00074219 = 3.9707 BTC [+]
866301;1412870177;nubbins`;oh sure, but that's too low-level for a senate hearing
866302;1412870180;thickasthieves;he paints current infosec as hopeless
866303;1412870190;nubbins`;half those people in the room don't know what the fuck a computer is
866304;1412870212;nubbins`;just wait til the lady from NB starts asking questions.
866305;1412870214;thickasthieves;but its also hopeless to think common men can secure their coins themselves
866306;1412870226;nubbins`;agreed, 100%, and he admits as much
866307;1412870241;thickasthieves;word
866308;1412870306;nubbins`;it's also hopeless to think that your bank can secure your money
866309;1412870315;nubbins`;difference is, banks try to make you believe the opposite
866310;1412870323;thickasthieves;yeah
866311;1412870332;mircea_popescu;princessnell they were discussing some testimony or w/e
866312;1412870341;nubbins`;whereas btc fanatics will freak out at you and tell you that your security, no matter how tight, is brutally sub-par
866313;1412870385;thickasthieves;and then they go home and use their one mobile device to log in via 2fa on same
866314;1412870399;mircea_popescu; does getting scammed fall under 'charitable giving' ? <<< yes. people charitably gave to neobee so that antonoscampulous could bum ciggs off people and derp before the candian senate.
866315;1412870419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.00097912 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 174 satoshi per share
866316;1412870425;nubbins`;good thing none of us were tangled up in NEOBEE
866317;1412870430;thickasthieves;pphew
866318;1412870434;nubbins`;imagine the guilt at enabling
866319;1412870448;mircea_popescu;well apparently the twerp has no such issue
866320;1412870460;mircea_popescu;and from what i recall reading about canadian politicians, it's n o wonder they invited him
866321;1412870473;nubbins`;;;google mike duffy
866322;1412870474;gribble;Mike Duffy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mike Duffys: Irish Restaurant and Sports Bar - St Louis MO: ; Town and Country Irish Food Menu - Best Burger N St ... - Mike Duffys:
866323;1412870475;mircea_popescu;vermin seeking vermin and all that.
866324;1412870480;nubbins`;;;google pamela wallin
866325;1412870481;gribble;Pamela Wallin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pamela Wallin - Journalist, Diplomat, Entrepreneur & Author: ; Pamela Wallin says she regrets repaying Senate expenses | Toronto ...:
866326;1412870515;nubbins`;;;google canadian senate scandal
866327;1412870516;gribble;Canadian Senate expenses scandal - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Canada Senate Scandal - Huffington Post: ; Senate Expense Scandal: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News:
866328;1412870522;nubbins`;;;google canadian senate marijuana 2002
866329;1412870522;gribble;Reports - Illegal Drugs (Special): ; Summary Report-final: ; The Special Senate Committee on Illegal Drugs:
866330;1412870526;mircea_popescu;lol
866331;1412870527;nubbins`;so on, so forth
866332;1412870532;mircea_popescu;so he's exactly in his proper element then.
866333;1412870545;mircea_popescu;maybe they start a new innovative coinplatfromscamderpage thing
866334;1412870551;nubbins`;wagging his chin at a bunch of ineffectual appointed lords?
866335;1412870554;mircea_popescu;now that neobee blew up, ethereum is gone into the hole etc
866336;1412870602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.12190364 BTC to 15`466 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
866337;1412870627;nubbins`;how long would one boil a chicken breast for, i wonder
866338;1412870659;mircea_popescu;ten minutes to as long you got.
866339;1412870709;nubbins`;ah, pulled it out at just the right moment
866340;1412870722;nubbins`;the idea is to have the middle slightly pink, so you can butterfly it and pan-fry
866341;1412870741;mircea_popescu;then ten's maybe too much
866342;1412870745;BingoBoingo;!up princessnell
866343;1412870765;nubbins`;around seven was right. ten for a full-cook would be right on the money
866344;1412870807;nubbins`;what's antonpopnopnopnopn got to do with neobee again
866345;1412870811;nubbins`;i have a hard time recalling
866346;1412870857;mircea_popescu;bout the same he has to do with ethereum, or bitcoin generally.
866347;1412870870;mircea_popescu;he kept representing to the sort of idiots that follow him on reddit that it's a great thing.
866348;1412870901;mircea_popescu;and that he's done the research for them, and all is well, a lie easy for the derps in question to swallow seeing just how lazy and stupid they are.
866349;1412870953;mircea_popescu;not that the thing is peculiar to him in any sense, it's the stock in trade of any random derp aspiring to a position of political preminence without any particular skill or ability. like so : http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/
866350;1412870954;assbot;These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
866351;1412870960;mircea_popescu;"The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEEs assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been under-banked. I must note, however, there
866352;1412870960;mircea_popescu;is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region."
866353;1412871026;nubbins`;tangibility
866354;1412871045;mircea_popescu;ikr? he loves the X word he's heard.
866355;1412871077;mircea_popescu;anyway, authors being a coupla 19 yo cocklets fresh out of a stint as cook chefs, pretending to be finance this or that.
866356;1412871153;mircea_popescu;but anyway, for today and as long as it lasts, antonoshithead is bitcoin's chief nigger. he's trying to parlay the nude use of words into as much free fried chicken as possible.
866357;1412871182;mircea_popescu;this apparently works to some degree, he's ahead a cigarette from xanthyos' ex, and was the senate hearing catered ?
866358;1412871183;BingoBoingo;!up devthedev
866359;1412871188;devthedev;Thank you
866360;1412871250;mircea_popescu;how goes devthedev ?
866361;1412871266;devthedev;Pretty good, how are you?
866362;1412871285;mircea_popescu;i am excited!
866363;1412871294;devthedev;I am too, I just saw qntra!
866364;1412871327;mircea_popescu;a yeah. you wanna submit a piece ?
866365;1412871329;BingoBoingo;devthedev: If you want to write for it submit a writing sample to cazalla
866366;1412871347;devthedev;Will do
866367;1412871383;mircea_popescu;and we say ~we~re excited. imagine what it must be like @ cazalla hq.
866368;1412871409;BingoBoingo;Yeah cazalla's bunny ranch has to be popping
866369;1412871415;devthedev;Ha
866370;1412871550;thickasthieves;antonop transcribed himself http://antonopoulos.com/2014/10/09/canadian-senate-hearings-my-opening-remarks/
866371;1412871551;assbot;Canadian Senate Hearings: My Opening Remarks | Andreas M. Antonopoulos
866372;1412871570;nubbins`;heh
866373;1412871610;mircea_popescu;a hey.
866374;1412871684;nubbins`;the finished breast: http://imgur.com/LcKYhvp
866375;1412871684;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer
866376;1412871709;thickasthieves;http://player.vimeo.com/video/108268160
866377;1412871709;assbot;High Speed Video Neal Stephenson Sabering a Champagne Bottle from ChefSteps on Vimeo
866378;1412871718;The20YearIRCloud;Looks good nubbins`
866379;1412871718;thickasthieves;frm the random dept
866380;1412871722;The20YearIRCloud;i need to start on lunch soon
866381;1412871731;nubbins`;don't let me stop ya
866382;1412871739;nubbins`;any wild posters yet?
866383;1412871748;nubbins`;forum thread's got a few of em framed
866384;1412871750;nubbins`;bbl
866385;1412871755;thestringpuller;dr. foreskin!!!!!
866386;1412871807;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i went in there expecting chick not chicken. #scam
866387;1412871819;nubbins`;8D
866388;1412871845;thestringpuller;don't chick's become chicken?
866389;1412871862;mircea_popescu;only if left unsupervised for too long
866390;1412871935;thestringpuller;you would think an all girls university would be a great place to recruit chicks...
866391;1412871946;thestringpuller;something about dem places ain't natural
866392;1412871960;mircea_popescu;they still have those ?
866393;1412871965;mircea_popescu;i thought they became illegal in the us
866394;1412871986;mircea_popescu;but yes, they drive each other sex crazy.
866395;1412872010;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Nope, they still exist.
866396;1412872050;mircea_popescu;so you can't have gentlemen's clubs but you can have all cunt university ?!
866397;1412872110;thestringpuller;i think there are all male universities still around...but I don't know who would want to attend
866398;1412872122;thestringpuller;and don't gentleman's club employ females?
866399;1412872134;mircea_popescu;not traditionally.
866400;1412872157;thestringpuller;i usually think of gentelman's club == high class strip club
866401;1412872159;mircea_popescu;but you bring a good point huh. women do want to be in a flock of women. men... not so much
866402;1412872164;thickasthieves;my holyoke is all female
866403;1412872169;mircea_popescu;no, it's not what it is lol.
866404;1412872176;thickasthieves;mt*
866405;1412872223;thickasthieves;lots of girl on girl encounters
866406;1412872360;thickasthieves;i just realized the cftc vid is 48h delayed :/
866407;1412872375;thickasthieves;not sure if i really can handle phoning in to listen
866408;1412872409;RagnarDanneskjol;I went to an all guys college for one year - there was so much ass around you wouldnt believe it. Hampden-Sydney college is surrounded by a number of all girls schools like sarah-lawrence and other schools attended by spoiled rich pure-bred top-shelf poon
866409;1412872409;thickasthieves;wait then below it says live webcast
866410;1412872411;thickasthieves;ok
866411;1412872470;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol a that's not so bad then
866412;1412872494;RagnarDanneskjol;it worked out well - until I got expelled for fraternity shennanigans
866413;1412872506;mircea_popescu;better than marrying out
866414;1412872705;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol so im confused. sarah-lawernce is afaik upstate ny. but apparently this Hampden-Sydney thing is in virginia ?
866415;1412872871;thestringpuller;circle is scam? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2irice/never_using_circle_again/
866416;1412872871;assbot;Never using Circle again : Bitcoin
866417;1412872891;RagnarDanneskjol;no - I got confused - there is sweet briar, mary-baldwin, and a few others. I spent some time @ sarah-lawrence later on. has been quite a few years
866418;1412872976;mircea_popescu;lol what is this, "if you remember the 60s you weren't there" ?
866419;1412873236;RagnarDanneskjol;this is about right: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hampden-Sydney
866420;1412873236;assbot;Urban Dictionary: Hampden-Sydney
866421;1412873503;BingoBoingo;;;ticker
866422;1412873504;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 382.46, Best ask: 383.67, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 383.66, 24 hour volume: 37509.54242863, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.228446462
866423;1412873508;thickasthieves;;;estimate
866424;1412873509;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 35021382515.8 based on data since last change | 33593487461.0 based on data for last three days
866425;1412873512;thickasthieves;!
866426;1412873530;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats
866427;1412873532;gribble;Current Blocks: 324568 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 7 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35021382515.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.03849
866428;1412873550;nubbins`;;o
866429;1412873687;TheNewDeal;if it takes an hour to find each of these next blocks...
866430;1412873696;mike_c;;;tslb
866431;1412873708;mircea_popescu;some blocks are harder than others!
866432;1412873710;gribble;Time since last block: 10 minutes and 16 seconds
866433;1412873750;mircea_popescu;"If reason and charity cannot promote the cause of truth and piety, I cannot see how it should ever flourish under the withering fires of wrath and strife". it's incredible just how much damage the 18th and 19th century heretic clubs did to the us.
866434;1412873756;mircea_popescu;presbyterian, srsly ?! gtfo.
866435;1412873779;TheNewDeal;love how the s&p500 is just propped up on stilts.
866436;1412873792;mircea_popescu;both truth and piety are exactly the creation, both necessary and unavoidalbe, of wrath and strife. just like equilibrium in mammals is the result of muscular activity, not of silent contemplation.
866437;1412873814;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal permanently elevated plateau yo.
866438;1412874555;ben_vulpes;"sarah lawrence: where the girls become women and the boys do too"
866439;1412874681;thestringpuller;Hah
866440;1412874689;thestringpuller;ben_vulpes made a funny!
866441;1412875114;thestringpuller;!up brianhoffman
866442;1412875122;kakobrekla;what was the last assbot quit msg
866443;1412875135;BingoBoingo;* assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
866444;1412875144;kakobrekla;ty
866445;1412875174;kakobrekla;i guess i need to temporarily switch this back on
866446;1412875175;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: beat me to it
866447;1412875202;ben_vulpes;;;ticker
866448;1412875203;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.54, Best ask: 375.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 375.0, 24 hour volume: 39347.55631242, 24 hour low: 341.13, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 366.929726172
866449;1412875603;TheNewDeal;is cafe con miel popular in buenos aires?
866450;1412875658;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/I/xE/3ofSgtJ8/oh-my-eyes.png
866451;1412875721;kakobrekla;;;tslb
866452;1412875725;gribble;Time since last block: 21 minutes and 43 seconds
866453;1412875733;kakobrekla;can i get a 'B' ?!
866454;1412875746;BingoBoingo;B
866455;1412875750;TheNewDeal;like a block
866456;1412875754;kakobrekla;can i get a 'L' ?!
866457;1412875760;BingoBoingo;L
866458;1412875782;kakobrekla;cool, now I only need to find OCK
866459;1412875790;kakobrekla;!up ceelo
866460;1412875794;kakobrekla;sing it!
866461;1412875799;thickasthieves;maybe miners are colluding to stop people from selling
866462;1412875912;ceelo;auth ceelo
866463;1412875919;ceelo;how do u auth with gribble
866464;1412875940;kakobrekla;;;nigga please
866465;1412875940;gribble;Error: "nigga" is not a valid command.
866466;1412875947;kakobrekla;ah dunno
866467;1412875954;thestringpuller;"that's our word. you have no business using it!"
866468;1412875961;thestringpuller;;;google family guy n-word jim
866469;1412875962;gribble;N-Word Jim - Family Guy Wiki: ; Huck Griffin - Family Guy Wiki: ; "Family Guy" I Am Peter, Hear Me Roar (TV Episode 2000) - Quotes ...:
866470;1412875966;ceelo;;;auth ceelo
866471;1412875966;gribble;Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
866472;1412875975;kakobrekla;ceelo http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
866473;1412875975;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
866474;1412875987;TheNewDeal;ceelo green?
866475;1412875991;ceelo;thx
866476;1412876004;thestringpuller;that would be dope if Ceelo came into the channel.
866477;1412876010;thestringpuller;sing us a song
866478;1412876014;kakobrekla;ceelo blue until he gets in the wot
866479;1412876020;TheNewDeal;hahahaha
866480;1412876020;kakobrekla;!up ceelo
866481;1412876097;thickasthieves;cftc wont be discussing bitcoin til 345
866482;1412876110;thickasthieves;100min
866483;1412876224;TheNewDeal;is obama going to make an appearance and finally get paid for http://bitbet.us/bet/804/obama-will-mention-bitcoin-before-2015/#b4?
866484;1412876225;assbot;BitBet - Obama will mention Bitcoin before 2015 :: 0.31 B (44%) on Yes, 0.4 B (56%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 23`231 (100`000 to 1)
866485;1412876256;ceelo;how do you get 'in the wot'
866486;1412876264;TheNewDeal;read that article
866487;1412876277;ceelo;found it
866488;1412876278;ceelo;cool
866489;1412876390;TheNewDeal;;;tslb
866490;1412876396;gribble;Time since last block: 22 minutes and 14 seconds
866491;1412876622;thestringpuller;%tslb
866492;1412876623;atcbot;Time Since Last ATC Block (#45986): 0 hour(s), 48 minutes
866493;1412876932;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself?
866494;1412877018;assbot;ceelo +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
866495;1412877030;ceelo;lol
866496;1412877084;kakobrekla;yes well everyone started with 0
866497;1412877094;ceelo;yeye
866498;1412877404;thestringpuller;that was quick ceelo
866499;1412877430;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: yea HIF is the Havelock itself
866500;1412877435;kakobrekla;http://imgur.com/blog/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/?forcedesktop=1
866501;1412877437;assbot;Introducing GIFV – Imgur Blog
866502;1412877630;thickasthieves;BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: is HIF Havelock itself? // can you clarify?
866503;1412877659;BingoBoingo;Does havelock trade on havelock as hif?
866504;1412877666;thickasthieves;yes
866505;1412877702;thickasthieves;it
866506;1412877710;thickasthieves;it's the same owner as CBTC
866507;1412877720;thickasthieves;sry
866508;1412877722;thickasthieves;not that
866509;1412877729;thickasthieves;same owner as CFIG
866510;1412877742;thickasthieves;who i suspect is same owner as 1BTCXE
866511;1412877807;thickasthieves;suspect/assume
866512;1412878057;kakobrekla;!up ceelo
866513;1412878059;kakobrekla;!up dnaleor
866514;1412878061;kakobrekla;!up ivok
866515;1412878135;ivok;hello everyone :) to use my voice
866516;1412878139;*;ivok goes back to lurking
866517;1412878150;kakobrekla;hehe
866518;1412878235;mircea_popescu;!up ceelo
866519;1412878305;mircea_popescu;lol
866520;1412878507;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: as earnings / div come from resolved, not confirmed. << good point ok
866521;1412878567;kakobrekla;'good point ok' is my middle name.
866522;1412878757;TheNewDeal;.98% , just wow
866523;1412879028;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats
866524;1412879030;gribble;Current Blocks: 324578 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1.13932137867e+11 | Estimated Percent Change: 225.49731
866525;1412879093;mike_c;cracked 250 exahash. this is getting out of hand.
866526;1412879120;TheNewDeal;phash?
866527;1412879121;mike_c;er, not exa
866528;1412879143;BingoBoingo;;;nethash
866529;1412879144;gribble;241177197.882
866530;1412879180;TheNewDeal;i remember there was ~280 a few weeks ago?
866531;1412879187;TheNewDeal;may be mistaken
866532;1412879201;mike_c;on short term estimates, yeah. difficulty just cracked 250 phash tho
866533;1412879203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.59699953 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share
866534;1412879258;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866535;1412879266;mircea_popescu;!up deedbot
866536;1412879269;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866537;1412879269;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866538;1412879269;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866539;1412879276;mircea_popescu;oh. sheit.
866540;1412879386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 56.42232407 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 11 satoshi per share
866541;1412879968;mpoe;;;eregister mpoe EE2BDEF602DD2D91
866542;1412879971;gribble;Request successful for user mpoe, hostmask mpoe!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EE2BDEF602DD2D91
866543;1412880095;TheNewDeal;!up ceelo
866544;1412880150;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbricht-attorneys-file-response-to-government/
866545;1412880162;TheNewDeal;next change is going to be giant
866546;1412880164;TheNewDeal;;;bc,stats
866547;1412880165;gribble;Current Blocks: 324579 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 70004998058.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 100.0001
866548;1412880203;mpoe;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e84e5e818cd8d59b7a141cdf633cc6656f3ef0943fca7dc9139d4e2a
866549;1412880204;gribble;Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user mpoe with key EE2BDEF602DD2D91
866550;1412880228;mircea_popescu;;;ident
866551;1412880229;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mpoe', with GPG key id EE2BDEF602DD2D91, key fingerprint 2A4A728F75668B50162D4F13EE2BDEF602DD2D91, and bitcoin address None
866552;1412880292;mircea_popescu;;;ident
866553;1412880292;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
866554;1412880299;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866555;1412880299;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866556;1412880299;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866557;1412880321;mircea_popescu;;;rate mpoe 1 Current MPEx account for #bitcoin-assets deed purposes
866558;1412880323;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mpoe has been recorded.
866559;1412880326;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866560;1412880326;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866561;1412880326;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866562;1412880334;mircea_popescu;ah lag mkay.
866563;1412880419;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: i just got used to being poor again what is this <<< ikr? me too!
866564;1412880522;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: i could get more into it, but mostly people dont give a shit << actually i think most serious animalagans eat freeranged.
866565;1412880621;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly <<< AAAANNDD they don't even quote trilema. not like it's been a secret over here, for the past half year or so.
866566;1412880649;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866567;1412880650;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866568;1412880650;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866569;1412880656;mircea_popescu;hm.
866570;1412880669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.00074175 = 11.805 BTC [-] {2}
866571;1412880680;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/10/09/nobel_prize_winner_patrick_modiano_s_wikipedia_page_changed_to_add_note.html
866572;1412880680;assbot;Nobel prize winner Patrick Modiano’s Wikipedia page changed to add note to “the reporter now copying from Wikipedia” (PHOTO).
866573;1412880681;thickasthieves;this Ulbricht response update is the first juicy thing I saw on qntra first, grats!
866574;1412880694;TomServo;^
866575;1412880696;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: Yw
866576;1412880727;*;thickasthieves reads left side of monitor.
866577;1412880733;BingoBoingo;lol
866578;1412880786;devthedev;Lol
866579;1412880803;devthedev;Nicely written Bingo
866580;1412880807;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Bam, news'd it up. <<< gotta love this guy
866581;1412880846;mike_c;hehe, i scooped the lawyers yesterday: "It apparently confuses php with MySQL"
866582;1412880858;thickasthieves;bingo your text is jacked
866583;1412880866;thickasthieves;incomplete sentences and such
866584;1412880893;thickasthieves;jumping or something
866585;1412880912;mircea_popescu;okies, logs done, discussions had, havoc caused, work reviewed (btw the eulora art is looking wunderbar) and so i guess ima bbl.
866586;1412880984;mike_c;thickasthieves: the pdf is no better
866587;1412881054;thickasthieves;ah shit
866588;1412881060;thickasthieves;well some of it is pretty good
866589;1412881067;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: The textblock is as the pdf presented it. It is a legal format problem.
866590;1412881069;thickasthieves;this is def getting interesting
866591;1412881110;thickasthieves;i'd think it would be a few more pages though
866592;1412881134;thickasthieves;i mean if youre already on the horse, ride it high
866593;1412881171;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: It's a defense filing. The point is to be clear. A prosecution filing though has the other perogative, to bury with text that might have meaning.
866594;1412881194;thickasthieves;word
866595;1412881773;TheNewDeal;somehow missed that this little cftc topic was bitcoin... gonna go brew up some popcorn, catch a few good laughs
866596;1412883548;TheNewDeal;does anyone have a link to the cftc live cast
866597;1412883787;TheNewDeal;this is pissing me off
866598;1412883800;TomServo;heh, I've been looking also
866599;1412883824;TheNewDeal;somehow they don't know how to link to a video
866600;1412883837;thickasthieves;http://www.onlinevideoservice.com/clients/cftc/video.htm?eventid=cftclive
866601;1412883838;assbot;CFTC Webcast
866602;1412883948;TheNewDeal;I see people moving, but no sound?
866603;1412883985;kakobrekla;id guess they took a break for smoke and pancakes
866604;1412883987;TomServo;(Please continue to stand by. This meeting will begin momentarily).
866605;1412884604;kakobrekla;TeraExchange self certified their Bitcoin Non-Deliverable Forwards swaps contract and it is currently listed for trading.
866606;1412884605;kakobrekla;lolk
866607;1412884632;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GVMYJR.txt )
866608;1412884632;BingoBoingo;!b 2
866609;1412884792;*;jurov is ashamed to not understand teh "self certified Bitcoin Non-Deliverable Forwards swaps contract"
866610;1412884798;jurov;sauce?
866611;1412884839;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#866600
866612;1412884842;assbot;Logged on 09-10-2014 19:43:57; thickasthieves: http://www.onlinevideoservice.com/clients/cftc/video.htm?eventid=cftclive
866613;1412884892;jurov;even if i understood, i'm on mobile net atm
866614;1412884920;thickasthieves;you mean what is a swap?
866615;1412884960;jurov;i barely understand that..but all the adjectives
866616;1412884975;kakobrekla;in short: scam
866617;1412885054;cazalla;mircea_popescu: mebbe qntra publishes a summary, then i can "watch" it too <<< i can't sit and watch that guy for 2 hours
866618;1412885098;thickasthieves;it means, according to provided guidelines, the exchange created a swap instrument for people to trade, hedge, and collateralize with, settled in dollars only, it's like a way to borrow bitcoin
866619;1412885194;kakobrekla;without the actual bitcoin.
866620;1412885198;thestringpuller;;;gettrust thickasthieves
866621;1412885199;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user thickasthieves: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 12 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=thickasthieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thickasthieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013
866622;1412885224;thickasthieves;is that a fact tho kako?
866623;1412885228;thickasthieves;i havent read it
866624;1412885240;kakobrekla;said so like 10 times
866625;1412885252;thickasthieves;hrm
866626;1412885277;kakobrekla;It is a bilateral, non-cleared trade that has credit support Annex, collateral delivery by either side to support the trade.
866627;1412885277;kakobrekla;It is nondeliverable. No Bitcoins exchange. This is a US cash settled forward.
866628;1412885304;thickasthieves;right, but they still need bitcoins to have value on the other end
866629;1412885308;thickasthieves;or am i missing something?
866630;1412885326;thickasthieves;like in bitfinex it's a swap market, users provide swap offers themselves
866631;1412885329;kakobrekla;afaik no
866632;1412885349;thickasthieves;how does tera sell these swaps?
866633;1412885352;thickasthieves;they arent worth anything
866634;1412885363;thickasthieves;backed by dollars i guess
866635;1412885368;thickasthieves;sounds dangerous
866636;1412885379;thickasthieves;makes no sense
866637;1412885395;cazalla;BingoBoingo: Yeah cazalla's bunny ranch has to be popping <<< yes it is atm, for every vegan in #b-a, a rabbit is slain with vengeance
866638;1412885408;BingoBoingo;Beautiful
866639;1412885413;thickasthieves;yeesh
866640;1412885422;thickasthieves;such oppress
866641;1412885436;cazalla;thickasthieves, they have a good life up until that point :P
866642;1412885448;thickasthieves;i meant me!
866643;1412885451;devthedev;Hey cazalla
866644;1412885465;cazalla;what's up devthedev
866645;1412885508;devthedev;Not much, how about you?
866646;1412885539;cazalla;not much, 7am here so morning cuppa tea is in order
866647;1412885583;devthedev;qntra's looking great so far!
866648;1412885609;cazalla;yes, everyone loves how the design looks
866649;1412885622;devthedev;Minimalism is the key
866650;1412885714;kakobrekla;just like everyone loves that bitcoin poster.
866651;1412885848;mats_cd03;bunny ranch elicited a different imagery
866652;1412885972;kakobrekla;> it can be physically delivered just for the same reason the commission recognizes physical delivery in a sense of other intangible commodities such as pollution rights
866653;1412885974;thestringpuller;i didn't get to see the bitcoin poster yet
866654;1412885974;kakobrekla;lol
866655;1412885977;thestringpuller;;;seen nubbins`
866656;1412885977;gribble;nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 27 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: ;o
866657;1412885985;kakobrekla;pollution rights.
866658;1412885994;TomServo;kakobrekla: yeah, wtf is that?
866659;1412886003;thestringpuller;;;later tell nubbins` hey instead of refund can I just get another poster :( the USPS can't find it
866660;1412886003;gribble;The operation succeeded.
866661;1412886028;kakobrekla;well co2 indulgences
866662;1412886232;kakobrekla;(just another scam fyi)
866663;1412886280;TomServo;Was that ms boring?
866664;1412886989;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/2BJ6BGJ.txt
866665;1412886994;kakobrekla;thickasthieves where are the btcs?
866666;1412887309;kakobrekla;>>: And one last point on that.
866667;1412887309;kakobrekla;Tom Leahy mentioned earlier that TeraExchange has an information agreement with every exchange to establish index.
866668;1412887309;kakobrekla;Every one of those exchanges in that agreement has agreed to supply as the details and they all do AML, KYC on all of the people trading on each of the exchanges.
866669;1412887309;kakobrekla;The exchanges that do not provide us this cannot be on this. We are not ascribing to anonymous trades that are happening out in the market place.
866670;1412887468;kakobrekla;--
866671;1412887468;kakobrekla;>>: Who owns that protocol?
866672;1412887468;kakobrekla;>>: It is open source.
866673;1412887470;kakobrekla;hahaha
866674;1412887498;TomServo;I wish we could've seen the face she made when Vito exclaimed "I KNOW!".
866675;1412887523;TomServo;Er Brito
866676;1412887578;kakobrekla;>>>: To questions. The first is how do you know there is no fraud or backdoors built in to the initial code? And then the second is if all the goodie is coming from the block chain, why not just put dollars on the block chain?
866677;1412887583;kakobrekla;!!
866678;1412887605;kakobrekla;wtf is this bitcoin 101 for kindergarten
866679;1412887649;mod6;hahah
866680;1412887656;TomServo;okay, this is pretty good ahahaha
866681;1412888304;thickasthieves;kako "but this thing that we call Bitcoin, it is the underlying asset."
866682;1412888329;kakobrekla;context?
866683;1412888357;thickasthieves;you quoted it
866684;1412888396;kakobrekla;yeah read the whole sentence
866685;1412888410;kakobrekla;its comparing other swaps
866686;1412888426;kakobrekla;"but this thing that we call Bitcoin, it is the underlying asset (that isnt really there)."
866687;1412888429;kakobrekla;better?
866688;1412888437;thickasthieves;lol
866689;1412888541;thickasthieves;well their website solicits 'liquidity providers' for the btc ndf
866690;1412888593;kakobrekla;tera? they contacted me in may.
866691;1412888597;thickasthieves;but they really should just say
866692;1412888646;thickasthieves;if the traders are their own counterparties,i guess it works as bets pretty much
866693;1412888657;thickasthieves;with tera as escrow
866694;1412888715;kakobrekla;+ market makers
866695;1412888726;kakobrekla;so they can avoid calling themselfs a bucket shop
866696;1412888934;TheNewDeal;jurov there's no reason one should ever want to understand a non-deliverable bitcoin future
866697;1412889255;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/520321317166256128
866698;1412889256;assbot;CFTC met on /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash today, here's the full transcript http://t.co/Y2U8Yqudk6 /hashtag/CFTC?src=hash
866699;1412889270;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/full-transcript-of-us-commodity-and-futures-trading-commision-bitcoin-session/
866700;1412889280;TheNewDeal;nice nice nice
866701;1412889319;BingoBoingo;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2isnxi/full_transcript_of_us_commodity_and_futures/
866702;1412889320;assbot;Full Transcript of US Commodity and Futures Trading Commision Bitcoin Session : Bitcoin
866703;1412889357;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: This livestream actually had a decent if lagging caption stream. Figure this is a race.
866704;1412889618;TheNewDeal;could you include pictures of the cftc representatives, preferably with a penned-in moustache?
866705;1412889718;BingoBoingo;Live streaming widget was tiny, usually had powerpoint slides instead of people. Feared fullscreening the widget lest the text be lost.
866706;1412890342;kanzure;here's my version of a transcript http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/cftc-bitcoin/
866707;1412890343;assbot;cftc-bitcoin
866708;1412890347;kanzure;went very poorly. those panelists were clueless.
866709;1412890428;thickasthieves;yeah antonop probly coulda doon better
866710;1412890473;kanzure;multiple panelists format is probably too broken anyway
866711;1412890479;kanzure;because it's hard enough to get a single person that understands bitcoin
866712;1412890484;kanzure;much less five separate people
866713;1412890488;kanzure;and then you have message confusion....
866714;1412890526;BingoBoingo;Maybe message confusion is what they want?
866715;1412890527;TheNewDeal;surprised they didn't make a pitch to increase the blocksize limit
866716;1412890531;kakobrekla;im not sure why are we watching some idiots learning about bitcoin on vid and doing whole conference bs and all. they should study at home, before hand, not ask stupid questions on tv.
866717;1412890553;kanzure;unfortunately it was the panelists that were learning about bitcoin
866718;1412890556;TheNewDeal;those were their smartest questions possible
866719;1412890564;kanzure;"how is the blockchain secured?" "well it's open source"
866720;1412890567;kanzure;that is not an appropriate answer
866721;1412890581;kanzure;under any circumstance
866722;1412890584;TheNewDeal;consider the universally secure linux
866723;1412890617;kakobrekla;"lets go to class to learn about this thing we know nothing about."
866724;1412890622;kakobrekla;"and lets tape it"
866725;1412890626;kakobrekla;"yeah good idea!"
866726;1412890635;kanzure;that's not how public access in government works
866727;1412890639;kakobrekla;"even better, live broadcast it, you can do it nowdays!"
866728;1412890665;kakobrekla;it looks like what i described.
866729;1412890675;kakobrekla;what it should suppose to be - nfi.
866730;1412890697;*;thickasthieves agrees with kako
866731;1412890785;kanzure;so you're against all federal livestreaming, or just some of it?
866732;1412890809;thickasthieves;i think the whole thing was derpy is all
866733;1412890810;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#866716
866734;1412890812;assbot;Logged on 09-10-2014 21:35:31; kakobrekla: im not sure why are we watching some idiots learning about bitcoin on vid and doing whole conference bs and all. they should study at home, before hand, not ask stupid questions on tv.
866735;1412890836;thickasthieves;and for real, you cant learn about bitcoin before your meeting?
866736;1412890836;kanzure;this wasn't a conference.
866737;1412890856;kakobrekla;oh my bad, if the didnt call it a conference all bets are off
866738;1412890860;kakobrekla;O_o
866739;1412890884;kanzure;they had pre-reading where they studied the material given to them that described bitcoin
866740;1412890895;kanzure;written by the panelists
866741;1412890909;kanzure;panely-people.
866742;1412890950;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitfury-outlines-how-it-plans-to-spend-20-million/
866743;1412890960;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-09-2014#820504
866744;1412890963;assbot;Logged on 05-09-2014 17:15:16; asciilifeform: 'A Chukcha applies for membership in the Union of Soviet Writers. He is asked what literature he is familiar with. "Have you read Pushkin?" "No." "Have you read Dostoevsky?" "No." "Can you read at all?" The Chukcha, offended, replies, "Chukcha not reader, Chukcha writer!"'
866745;1412891028;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Dolar Blue over 20 Argentine Pesos on or before Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec 8th)" http://bitbet.us/bet/1044/ Odds: 51(Y):49(N) by coin, 52(Y):48(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.54237601 BTC. Current weight: 56,714.
866746;1412891153;kanzure;i said they had read it, not that they ignored it
866747;1412891708;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47825 @ 0.00074151 = 35.4627 BTC [-] {2}
866748;1412891832;X-Rob;BingoBoingo: FYI, just had a 5 minute outage. My primary internet's been down for a day now, and my backup just glitched.
866749;1412891848;BingoBoingo;X-Rob: Thanks for the heads up
866750;1412891876;X-Rob;I'll try to keep an eye on it, but, all my alerting is broken because my main conneciton is down
866751;1412891882;X-Rob;so.. I've discovered a flaw there 8)
866752;1412891912;cazalla;;;later tell sgarnick send me a pm when you're online, been trying a day with no luck
866753;1412891912;gribble;The operation succeeded.
866754;1412891928;mircea_popescu;!up deedBot
866755;1412891931;mircea_popescu;.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866756;1412891932;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866757;1412891933;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5PG5mdAU
866758;1412891937;mircea_popescu;what the ef.
866759;1412891942;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot mpoe
866760;1412891943;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mpoe: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mpoe | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mpoe | Rated since: Thu Oct 9 14:45:18 2014
866761;1412891963;mircea_popescu;o it was like once a day was it.
866762;1412892136;mircea_popescu;;;calc 172**0
866763;1412892136;gribble;1
866764;1412892142;cazalla;;;later tell sgornick send me a pm when you're online, been trying a day with no luck
866765;1412892143;gribble;The operation succeeded.
866766;1412892207;TheNewDeal;missed the second * and thought gribble was failing basic maths
866767;1412892318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00074126 = 10.0441 BTC [-]
866768;1412892677;BingoBoingo;So far qntra's bigger in Kenya than South Africa.
866769;1412892704;mircea_popescu;lol
866770;1412892714;mircea_popescu;o, hey, first day results are in huh /
866771;1412892737;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Not on quantcast yet
866772;1412892743;mircea_popescu;a
866773;1412892783;mircea_popescu;apparently there exists a pntra.com
866774;1412893048;X-Rob;373 blocks until difficulty changes
866775;1412893049;X-Rob;yay!
866776;1412893295;mircea_popescu;http://airs.com/ian/essays/stock/stock.html
866777;1412893482;mircea_popescu;an interesting alternative entry point into the theory of teh bezzle
866778;1412893668;thestringpuller;;;ticker
866779;1412893669;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 360.0, Best ask: 360.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 360.85, 24 hour volume: 47558.47213155, 24 hour low: 348.3, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 368.563472311
866780;1412893887;danielpbarron;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-10-2014#866357 << not xanthyos; an associate of ours
866781;1412893887;assbot;Logged on 09-10-2014 16:13:02; mircea_popescu: this apparently works to some degree, he's ahead a cigarette from xanthyos' ex, and was the senate hearing catered ?
866782;1412893893;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: do you have a sample script for the bitcoin cartoons?
866783;1412893908;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron guy said it was his ex gf
866784;1412893930;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller nope. it was inteded as open mic here, if the guy were interested.
866785;1412893931;danielpbarron;ya, that guy's ex; not xanthyos'
866786;1412893945;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron hence " from xanthyos' ex" you see
866787;1412894145;BingoBoingo;Since kakobrekla prolly wants to see it again: * assbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
866788;1412894256;kakobrekla;hehe thanks BingoBoingo - i now enabled those messages temporarily so i am able to follow
866789;1412894449;BingoBoingo;You're welcome. I just thought... Maybe you'd wait until the polar bears all became exclusively aquatic before ever watching join/parts
866790;1412894549;penguirker;New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/mlg-bitcoin-company/
866791;1412894730;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo its not for long :)
866792;1412894754;kakobrekla;but yeah, i feel remembered that i dont miss em.
866793;1412894975;kakobrekla;much less doormany.
866794;1412895118;BingoBoingo;It's the price of not being poor like earier this week
866795;1412895127;BingoBoingo;%d
866796;1412895129;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 313712.44 in 372 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.30
866797;1412896471;gabriel_laddel;!s rabbits
866798;1412896472;assbot;138 results for 'rabbits' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rabbits
866799;1412896919;BingoBoingo;!s manul
866800;1412896920;assbot;245 results for 'manul' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=manul
866801;1412897306;mircea_popescu;;;seen pankkake
866802;1412897307;gribble;pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: here is 0.000195.
866803;1412897310;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitstash-kickstarter-campaign-begins-october-22nd/
866804;1412897347;cazalla;speaking of rabbits, how about i turn these http://i.imgur.com/5Tk3rhN.jpg into some gloves for thickasthieves, where da white wommenz at btw
866805;1412897375;Bitcoin_Eric;lol
866806;1412897658;thestringpuller;Blockchain.info advertised a scam bitcoin investment site called Hashprinme.com as one of its partners, allowing it to steal over $100,000 USD simply by using Blockchain's reputation to mislead its victims as a legitimate investment company...SHAME ON YOU, BLOCKCHAIN!
866807;1412897662;thestringpuller;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iq367/blockchaininfo_advertised_a_scam_bitcoin/
866808;1412897663;assbot;Blockchain.info advertised a scam bitcoin investment site called Hashprinme.com as one of its partners, allowing it to steal over $100,000 USD simply by using Blockchain's reputation to mislead its victims as a legitimate investment company...SHAME ON YOU, BLOCKCHAIN! : Bitcoin
866809;1412897671;thestringpuller;ugh fucking copy paste thing
866810;1412898037;xanthyos;jan hooks is dead.
866811;1412898051;xanthyos;the comedy world shrugs
866812;1412898134;thestringpuller;Weird
866813;1412898143;thestringpuller;BitStash and trezor huh
866814;1412898181;thestringpuller;The second one of those gets hacked....
866815;1412898291;RagnarDanneskjol;!up deedbot
866816;1412898298;RagnarDanneskjol;.deed http://pastebin.com/gStPn3i2
866817;1412898298;assbot;S.BBET float - Pastebin.com
866818;1412898299;deedBot;deed EE2BDEF602DD2D91 not trusted.
866819;1412898299;deedBot;Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/gStPn3i2
866820;1412898299;assbot;S.BBET float - Pastebin.com
866821;1412898341;RagnarDanneskjol;hmm. thought maybe the raw patse link was issue
866822;1412898776;mircea_popescu;!up Flyer9933
866823;1412898794;mircea_popescu;cazalla shit they're cute.
866824;1412898815;thestringpuller;;;ticker
866825;1412898818;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.68, Best ask: 364.76, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 364.68, 24 hour volume: 47802.41474800, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 368.330477846
866826;1412898823;mircea_popescu;!up mechtronic2001
866827;1412898914;thestringpuller;!up Jezzz
866828;1412898935;Jezzz;thx thestringpuller
866829;1412898976;mircea_popescu;http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << check it out kakobrekla, like the first time in history that the left pane is full, 100 entries past week
866830;1412898977;assbot;#bitcoin-assets stats
866831;1412898994;kakobrekla;first time after +m maybe
866832;1412899020;mircea_popescu;mnop
866833;1412899032;kakobrekla;pretty sure it was full even before
866834;1412899066;mircea_popescu;hmm i guess looking at the graphs it hadda been
866835;1412899078;mircea_popescu;a well.
866836;1412899318;mircea_popescu;!up hagbardgroup
866837;1412899363;hagbardgroup;(Still reading through tutorial material)
866838;1412899422;mircea_popescu;good for you.
866839;1412899439;mircea_popescu;"The biggest thing you can write in C++ is... also an operating system. Well, maybe a little bigger. Let's say three times bigger. Or even ten times. But operating system kernels are at most, what, maybe a million lines of code? So I'd argue the biggest system you can reasonably write in C++ is maybe 10 million lines, and then it starts to break down and become this emergent thing that you have no hope of controlling,
866840;1412899439;mircea_popescu;like the plant in Little Shop of Horrors. Feeeeeed meeeeeee...
866841;1412899439;mircea_popescu;If you can get it to compile by then, that is.
866842;1412899439;mircea_popescu;We have 50 million lines of C++ code. No, it's more than that now. I don't know what it is anymore. It was 50 million last Christmas, nine months ago, and was expanding at 8 million lines a quarter. The expansion rate was increasing as well. Ouch."
866843;1412899445;mircea_popescu;guy who work[ed?] at amazon.
866844;1412899458;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: steve yegge?
866845;1412899460;mircea_popescu;seriously, 50mn lines of code ? there's no need to write 50 mn lines of code. for anything.
866846;1412899467;mircea_popescu;god himself uses fewer than 50mn lines of code
866847;1412899469;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel exactly.
866848;1412899648;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: Funny little bit of history. Steve Y. goes on and on and on about how C++, java, etc. (algol derivatives) predictably create massively bloated codebases, gives lip service how Lisp solves these problems (which is does) and then goes back to... writing in ~ALGOL. (I asked a Googler who was recently on the same team as Steve what language they worked in - Java.)
866849;1412899668;mircea_popescu;https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/tour-de-babel << the origin.
866850;1412899668;assbot;tour-de-babel - steveyegge2
866851;1412899718;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel why do you think that is ?
866852;1412899780;gabriel_laddel;He got old and fat, making a change was too much for him. He says that there are 'problems' with (common) lisp. http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html
866853;1412899780;assbot;Stevey's Blog Rants: Lisp is Not an Acceptable Lisp
866854;1412899781;kakobrekla;cause they code for living
866855;1412899807;gabriel_laddel;Silicon valley is basically just a slightly more white version of (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.-> [ Luxor Centre For Businessmen ] <-.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯)
866856;1412899819;mircea_popescu;o.o you got that saved ?
866857;1412899828;gabriel_laddel;yeah.
866858;1412899849;mircea_popescu;now is this kinda like c or kinda like lisp, you'd say ?
866859;1412899868;gabriel_laddel;Anything ~ALGOL derived.
866860;1412899884;mircea_popescu;no. i mean the fact that you have a string stored, and an apparatus to retrieve and use it in place.
866861;1412899920;gabriel_laddel;Lisp thing. Emacs gave it to me in.... less than 3 seconds.
866862;1412899944;mircea_popescu;through a string of perl ?
866863;1412899953;gabriel_laddel;C-b ".notes" C-r "luxor"
866864;1412899970;gabriel_laddel;(C- meaning 'control' + whatever)
866865;1412899983;mircea_popescu;ah but this is only half the story. you also saved it there, and saved the "notes" string somewhere etc.
866866;1412899993;mircea_popescu;admire the pile of crap that the whole software involved is.
866867;1412900050;gabriel_laddel;I don't understand what you're getting at. (emacs) Lisp still has to store things in files.
866868;1412900053;mircea_popescu;in other words, back to the topic : i think the people arguing that c is just the way to talk to the c-machine, aka von neumann machine have it wrong - c is just the way average people abstract. fortunately that fit into an already existing machine, but if it hadn't it'd have been forcibly fit anyway.
866869;1412900069;danielpbarron;;;gettrust gabriel_laddel
866870;1412900069;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask gabriel_laddel!~user@c-67-161-28-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user gabriel_laddel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=gabriel_laddel | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gabriel_laddel | Rated since: Sun Aug 3 11:48:26 2014
866871;1412900164;danielpbarron;oh, new guy :D
866872;1412900333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00074253 = 17.7093 BTC [+] {2}
866873;1412900357;thestringpuller;!s MPEX PAID
866874;1412900358;assbot;83 results for 'MPEX PAID' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=MPEX+PAID
866875;1412900470;mod6;lol 8m additional lines per q!? that's just nuts
866876;1412900489;mircea_popescu;mod6 no, it's "an economy". imagine, that's the bread of what, 500 derps ?
866877;1412900507;mircea_popescu;at least. fifty idiots get to go around telling young women about their imminent promotion to higher-middle manager because of it
866878;1412900524;mod6;haha, staggers the imagination
866879;1412900547;mod6;and you're right, 50m lines of code? that does what!!?
866880;1412900552;mircea_popescu;the only conceivable purpose i can see for government would be to allocate limits. you want to write a facebook ? register with govt, get a 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot.
866881;1412900575;mircea_popescu;after they're done with congress. "all laws fit in 500 pages. you want new ones ? delete old ones."
866882;1412900586;mircea_popescu;enforced brevity ftw.
866883;1412900596;mod6;some kinda hard-limit ya
866884;1412900776;thestringpuller;;;gettrust nanotube
866885;1412900776;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nanotube: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 14 via 10 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nanotube | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nanotube | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:14:09 2010
866886;1412900797;mircea_popescu;how the hell did he get under 1
866887;1412900800;thestringpuller;/window 42
866888;1412900830;mircea_popescu;a nm
866889;1412900914;pete_dushenski;howdy.
866890;1412900921;pete_dushenski;TheNewDeal: surprised they didn't make a pitch to increase the blocksize limit << lol
866891;1412901011;mod6;saw a lot of action on your blog about that topic btcpete
866892;1412901112;mircea_popescu;"Perl has the best marketing in the world. You could write a book about how brilliant their marketing is. Sun has marketed Java with money, and Perl is almost keeping up, popularity-wise, purely on the on sheer marketing brilliance of Larry Wall and his buddies. Folks at Harvard Business School should study Perl's marketing. It's astonishing."
866893;1412901117;mircea_popescu;shit i wasn't aware anyone realised this
866894;1412901169;pete_dushenski;mod6: ya, it was a fun last 48 hours :)
866895;1412901183;pete_dushenski;3000+ words of comments
866896;1412901194;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski anything good ?
866897;1412901219;pete_dushenski;hmm. let me see if i can dig up a quote or two worth repeating...
866898;1412901252;asciilifeform;there's no need to write 50 mn lines of code. for anything. <<<<<
866899;1412901299;pete_dushenski;this one by "zeke" was decidedly luzly from a few angles:
866900;1412901303;pete_dushenski;"Gavin has done quite a lot for the bitcoin project, and is one of the few people who can credibly represent it to lay people. Still, I agree with the Romanian school inasmuch as the blockchain increase seems unnecessary and potentially disastrous to me. It’s inviting a fork that will not be honored by a large portion of the current hash power, and the current wallet balance. Thus it is a Bad Idea. What about side
866901;1412901304;pete_dushenski;chains, and all the other ways that BTC can grow in real transaction volume?"
866902;1412901308;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: shit i wasn't aware anyone realised this << naggum did.
866903;1412901326;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu you are now the bearer of "the romanian school" torch!
866904;1412901351;pete_dushenski;also, what fuckin sidechainz amirite
866905;1412901352;mircea_popescu;o the romanian school is it ?
866906;1412901362;mircea_popescu;fucking hell romania is going to end up accidentally famous by mistake.
866907;1412901365;mircea_popescu;typical for that place.
866908;1412901371;pete_dushenski;lol
866909;1412901382;pete_dushenski;who says mistake?
866910;1412901397;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform did anyone write a full analysis of it, or just mention it in passing ?
866911;1412901399;pete_dushenski;let's work from causes, neh?
866912;1412901413;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski by mistake as in, gavin fucked up.
866913;1412901440;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: naggum never wrote a full anything, afaik, apart from 'a long and painful history of time'
866914;1412901443;pete_dushenski;aic ya that's way funnier :D
866915;1412901453;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: but three or four of his posts add up to a sort of treatise on perl
866916;1412901468;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski wouldja consider adding a recent comments list ?
866917;1412901478;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i mean specifically the marketing of.
866918;1412901499;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: c is just the way average people abstract << if only. invited to reread the infamous 'the camel has two humps.'
866919;1412901524;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: lol funny you should mention that… i was toying around with that this morning, trying to add a second sidebar column a la trilema and… i fucking borkt the whole thing.
866920;1412901570;pete_dushenski;thankfully, i had made a back-up but i was pretty choked for a minute cuz the auto-save didn't include that last article about gavin's retardation
866921;1412901583;pete_dushenski;but all is well now!
866922;1412901593;asciilifeform;(short version of 'the camel' - prospective 'comp sci' students were given tests on basic things, e.g., 'a = 1, b = 2, a + b = ?' - and they separated into 2 groups, ones who had correct answrs. or at least consistent misconceptions - and ones who did not. the latter - turned out, unsurprisingly, to be unteachable.)
866923;1412901679;pete_dushenski;ok. 5 recent comments added below the recent articles.
866924;1412901691;pete_dushenski;still single sidebar
866925;1412901718;asciilifeform;'thing you can write in C++ is... also an operating system...' << winblows.
866926;1412901898;pete_dushenski;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/amid-buyback-backlash--what-else-can-slow-growing-ibm-or-bed-bath-do-163617528.html << those stilts.
866927;1412901940;mircea_popescu;"It doesnt matter what the minors feel like honoring. The miners will follow the full nodes; they wont waste energy mining the fork when its coins arent worth the time it takes to send them to an exchange." danielpbarron << all the miners run (multiple) full nodes.
866928;1412901970;mircea_popescu;this is the ad-hoc, market driven fix to the problem of node disenfranchisement as ordained by his satoshiness.
866929;1412902009;mircea_popescu;(there's an extra bit in there, where people with a lot of exposure, financial, intellectual, emotional, w/e also run full nodes - but generally they also won't be following patently insane notions a la "let's make the blocks infinite")
866930;1412902041;asciilifeform;(obligatory: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3068978379837591@naggum.no.html << re c++)
866931;1412902042;assbot;Re: Prolog vs. Lisp - Naggum cll archive
866932;1412902164;mircea_popescu;"To soften my comment, I would not want to replace Gavin with some loony that thinks the USG is competent enough to undermine bitcoin in any organized way. All this talk about Mike and Gavin being stooges is absurd, and undermines my respect for much of the other (very insightful) stuff you guys write on the Internet. They can be wrong, without being corrupt."
866933;1412902167;mircea_popescu;o.O
866934;1412902180;asciilifeform;how can one even make, with any serious logical certainty, a statement like 'i have one bitcoin' without running a full node?
866935;1412902194;asciilifeform;(or at least, having a very good friend who does)
866936;1412902223;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how does one say "i have a wife" ?
866937;1412902238;pete_dushenski;ha!
866938;1412902248;mircea_popescu;"these are my children" ? "this is my house". most property owners don't own their own torens title bureaus
866939;1412902258;pete_dushenski;not, i suppose, as opposed to saying "a wife has me"
866940;1412902299;pete_dushenski;"i have a car" (on lease for 48 months)
866941;1412902314;pete_dushenski;at least most people have their clothes and the groceries in their fridges
866942;1412902331;pete_dushenski;not that they're wise enough to brag about it
866943;1412902352;asciilifeform;slightly different situation here. btc user without full node is just as likely to be walking around in a barrel, deluded by dope into thinking he's driving a car (like the characters in s. lem's 'futurological congress')
866944;1412902392;asciilifeform;then again, world is full of bastard children and questionable wives, so perhaps similar.
866945;1412902405;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: ty for another comment! that post deserves a plaque for the names it's attracted.
866946;1412902601;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski there, enjoy one more then. http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-29734
866947;1412902602;assbot;How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain't Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
866948;1412902638;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: lol. nice.
866949;1412902683;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot << chuck moore (of 'forth' fame) seems kinda in favour of this. as am i. a kind of 'environmentalism' i've been advocating for many years (intellectual pollution doesn't blacken mere lungs. it makes everybody - stupider. measurably.)
866950;1412902687;pete_dushenski;also the gap between brk-a and btc narrowed by, what, 5% today?
866951;1412902702;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
866952;1412902704;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 365.81, Best ask: 366.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 366.4, 24 hour volume: 47259.77924389, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 369.139461234
866953;1412902720;mircea_popescu;lol i stand to make a pretty penny there, don't i.
866954;1412902749;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: off like a bandit.
866955;1412902752;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i'd rather sit in a hazmat suit and read good prose than live in a meadow of paper.
866956;1412902827;asciilifeform;^
866957;1412902852;mircea_popescu;!up Sweeters
866958;1412902875;pete_dushenski;man the recent comments on this theme are fugly. all title and no text. wtf.
866959;1412902996;mircea_popescu;"Every 15 years or so, languages are replaced with better ones. C was replaced by C++, at least for large-scale application development by people who needed performance but desperately wanted data types too. C++ is being replaced by Java, and Java will doubtless be replaced with something better in seven years well, seven years after it finishes replacing C++, which evidently hasn't fully happened yet, mostly becau
866960;1412902996;mircea_popescu;se Microsoft was able to stall it before it became ubiquitous on the desktop. But for server-side applications, C++ is basically on its way out."
866961;1412902999;mircea_popescu;way to be wrong.
866962;1412903019;asciilifeform;'better ones' << mega-lol
866963;1412903020;mircea_popescu;turns out that C/C++ are sorta like me. keep being "in the process of" being superseeded periodically, then the would-be revolutionizer dies.
866964;1412903035;mircea_popescu;"Perl will be gone soon, too. That's because a new language called Ruby has finally been translated into English."
866965;1412903051;mircea_popescu;irl, ruby got raped with an insecurity stick almost as big as my schlong, and perl still reigns
866966;1412903064;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: then the would-be revolutionizer dies << notice, no new machines.
866967;1412903078;asciilifeform;(because those cost actual money to build, among other reasons)
866968;1412903080;mircea_popescu;myeah.
866969;1412903097;mircea_popescu;well, luckily you're not a codger, so who knows what the future brings.
866970;1412903139;asciilifeform;'don't wait for bus, you might be the driver' etc
866971;1412903867;mod6;;;bc,stats
866972;1412903869;gribble;Current Blocks: 324627 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 1964 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 4 hours, 20 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43040927023.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.96536
866973;1412904049;mod6;%v
866974;1412904050;atcbot;[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 180 Ask: 225 Last Price: 255 30d-Vol: 174k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 199
866975;1412904066;mircea_popescu;like the world's most stable altcoin
866976;1412904090;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/internet-watch-foundation-claims-bitcoin-increasingly-used-to-purchase-cp/
866977;1412904094;asciilifeform;quite a few are stable at 0...
866978;1412904141;kakobrekla;hehe
866979;1412904243;mircea_popescu;now this is true
866980;1412904360;mircea_popescu;;;seen bluemeanie
866981;1412904361;gribble;I have not seen bluemeanie.
866982;1412904362;mircea_popescu;;;seen bluemeanie1
866983;1412904363;gribble;I have not seen bluemeanie1.
866984;1412904367;mircea_popescu;hm
866985;1412904412;mircea_popescu;http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/#comment-58 check out the dramas.
866986;1412904414;assbot;CryptoCoinsNews Is Anything But News
866987;1412904638;cazalla;i'm lovin' it
866988;1412904688;mircea_popescu;i thought that guy was in here but apparently gribble never saw it
866989;1412904808;asciilifeform;!s BlueMeanie4
866990;1412904808;assbot;817 results for 'BlueMeanie4' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=BlueMeanie4
866991;1412904831;asciilifeform;(same or not? devil knows)
866992;1412904866;mircea_popescu;ah ok
866993;1412905217;pete_dushenski;;;seen pankkake
866994;1412905217;gribble;pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 11 hours, 59 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: here is 0.000195.
866995;1412905240;RagnarDanneskjol;I met caleb chen from ccn last weekend - seems like a nice kid and is fully cognizant of his site's derpidity - people are still eating it up, so he's all 'fuck it' - no incentive to do otherwise (besides lost dignity). apparently they have like 40 part-time writers 'on-staff'
866996;1412905270;pete_dushenski;;;later tell pankkake i'm getting the following error running your node.sh script: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: udev : Breaks: plymouth (< 0.9.0-7) but 0.8.5.1-5 is to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." << please to help!
866997;1412905270;gribble;The operation succeeded.
866998;1412905390;pete_dushenski;and ima a be off to the racquet club!
866999;1412905986;cazalla;RagnarDanneskjol, that's interesting
867000;1412906510;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol so maybe have him drop by
867001;1412906513;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel
867002;1412906531;mircea_popescu;;;seen BlueMeanie4
867003;1412906532;gribble;BlueMeanie4 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 3 days, 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: hello from Murica
867004;1412906532;RagnarDanneskjol;will do
867005;1412906551;mircea_popescu;;;later tell BlueMeanie4 so what about that nxt/devwork story ?
867006;1412906551;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867007;1412906916;ben_vulpes;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#866880 << never thought i'd see the day mircea_popescu suggested government intervention on anything
867008;1412906917;assbot;Logged on 10-10-2014 00:22:32; mircea_popescu: the only conceivable purpose i can see for government would be to allocate limits. you want to write a facebook ? register with govt, get a 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot.
867009;1412906967;mircea_popescu;saying that the only thing this apple's good for is the pigs doesn't amount to a suggesting feeding the pigs.
867010;1412906995;gabriel_laddel;;; google 3 generations of imbeciles was is enough
867011;1412906995;gribble;Buck v. Bell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; “Three Generations of Imbeciles Are Enough” - Genomics Law Report: ; Eugenics: Three Generations, No Imbeciles: Virginia, Eugenics ...:
867012;1412907007;mircea_popescu;"(yeah, there are a bunch) are going to have to realize that if Lisp is ever going to be massively successful, it needs an overhaul. Or maybe a revolution. Contrary to what some might tell you, it doesn't need a committee, and it doesn't need a bunch of money. Linux proved exactly the opposite. Lisp needs a benevolent dictator. Lisp needs to ditch the name "Lisp", since it scares people. And Lisp needs to learn from th
867013;1412907008;mircea_popescu;e lessons of the 45 years of languages that have followed it."
867014;1412907017;mircea_popescu;this is an interesitng theory. i suspect it's actually true.
867015;1412907073;asciilifeform;one problem - there is not actually a programming language called 'lisp'.
867016;1412907078;asciilifeform;not since 1962 or so.
867017;1412907086;thestringpuller;common lisp
867018;1412907087;thestringpuller;lol
867019;1412907088;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform he makes this point yes.
867020;1412907103;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: I doubt this very much. 'Lisp' simply needs managers to understand why they should order those not good enough to sling dope to write it.
867021;1412907107;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller "other than being uncommon, common lisp is also not lisp"
867022;1412907123;thestringpuller;yea, which is funny.
867023;1412907135;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel in practice that sort of manager is a dictator.
867024;1412907135;thestringpuller;or at least to me.
867025;1412907177;thestringpuller;those not good enough to sling dope...that sounds familiar...
867026;1412907197;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: not necessarily. middle management worldwide likes java... why?
867027;1412907209;gabriel_laddel;one argument,
867028;1412907219;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=69
867029;1412907220;assbot;Loper OS » Where Lisp Fails: at Turning People into Fungible Cogs.
867030;1412907222;gabriel_laddel;;; google site: loper-os.org where lisp fails
867031;1412907223;gribble;Loper OS: ; Loper OS » Where Lisp Fails: at Turning People into Fungible Cogs.: ; Loper OS » Lisp:
867032;1412907229;asciilifeform;lol!
867033;1412907232;mircea_popescu;because marginal hires won't ruin your codebase quite as badly ?
867034;1412907261;ben_vulpes;marginal hires have a hard time hacking it in lisp shops.
867035;1412907266;gabriel_laddel;does anyone really think that an extra 8mm LoC per quarter is ''not ruining things quite as badly?'
867036;1412907277;ben_vulpes;imposes this floor on hire quality, reduces need to hire as rapidly.
867037;1412907299;ben_vulpes;'course to leverage that, you gotta use the thing everywhere. makes it hard for the polyglot shop.
867038;1412907302;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel you kidding ? i doubt anyone even keeps track of mn granulairty.
867039;1412907364;asciilifeform;the whole concept of vast galley of slaves, fungible, working on a massive codebase, is fundamentally braindamaged.
867040;1412907373;ben_vulpes;^^
867041;1412907378;decimation;I was cursing python's inability to easily rewrite itself today
867042;1412907383;ben_vulpes;"9 women, 1 month"
867043;1412907392;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: people not keeping track of this is the problem.
867044;1412907404;asciilifeform;once grasp this, the only thing left is instrument for maximizing - at the cost of burned orphanages of any and all kinds, dead puppies, kittens - abilities of individual man.
867045;1412907406;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it'd better be because im betting on it getting blown out of the water.
867046;1412907413;mircea_popescu;and it's the one bet i'm least confident about.
867047;1412907435;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: exactly.
867048;1412907462;mircea_popescu;well boys, this approach of yours has only the minor disadvantage that it goes exactly against the constitution of the city you live in.
867049;1412907475;gabriel_laddel;time for towns then, no?
867050;1412907481;mircea_popescu;it's not even a felony, it's outright treason.
867051;1412907482;mircea_popescu;sure.
867052;1412907514;gabriel_laddel;!s terry a davis
867053;1412907515;assbot;0 results for 'terry a davis' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=terry+a+davis
867054;1412907549;mircea_popescu;i like how the b-a search function is self healing. not found anything ? try again!
867055;1412907632;asciilifeform;!s templeos
867056;1412907632;assbot;3 results for 'templeos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=templeos
867057;1412907634;asciilifeform;there we go.
867058;1412907648;decimation;the problem with lisp is that it is alient to the modern c-machine, especially the multi-core variety
867059;1412907650;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2014#846772
867060;1412907651;assbot;Logged on 27-09-2014 03:28:42; asciilifeform: decimation: 'crazy' is the reason he actually got to work!
867061;1412907659;gabriel_laddel;It's a pity Terry doesn't frequent #b-a
867062;1412907675;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel can always drop him an invite.
867063;1412907683;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: nah. he mostly posts output from his biblical shannonizer.
867064;1412907689;asciilifeform;literally.
867065;1412907699;asciilifeform;(his gizmo comes with a 'talk with god' proggy)
867066;1412907701;mircea_popescu;decimation i don't get this. all machines are multi-core
867067;1412907708;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoinezy-claims-ezy-bit-is-a-one-stop-shop-for-new-users/
867068;1412907731;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: have you spoken with him privately / had to filter his comments on loper?
867069;1412907748;mircea_popescu;cazalla BingoBoingo for the record, i like the slightly skeptical tone of qntra reporting. tech reporting has been awash in gushing for too damned long. some classical skepticism is in dire need.
867070;1412907754;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: he commented once, saying i must have stolen his name
867071;1412907756;decimation;http://xahlee.info/comp/Guy_Steele_parallel_computing.html
867072;1412907757;assbot;Guy Steele on Parallel Programing: Get rid of cons!
867073;1412907757;cazalla;btw, dude that runs that ezybit ran a now defunct seo company lol
867074;1412907781;asciilifeform;(which was nonsense, i stole it long, long ago from clifford simak's 'city.')
867075;1412907803;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: Ah. In any case, imo he'
867076;1412907819;gabriel_laddel;s more entertaining than say ninjashotgun
867077;1412907819;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel
867078;1412907819;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask gabriel_laddel!4441a914@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.20. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gabriel_laddel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=gabriel_laddel | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gabriel_laddel | Rated since: Sun Aug 3 11:48:26 2014
867079;1412907834;gabriel_laddel;certainly more talented.
867080;1412907850;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel you know how to use this thing to self voice ?
867081;1412907854;gabriel_laddel;yes
867082;1412907855;decimation;mircea_popescu: The Register is the only non-pure-pr tech news source that I know of
867083;1412907858;asciilifeform;i still have no idea if he's an actual nutter or merely playing the part so he gets to eat.
867084;1412907872;asciilifeform;hell knows, people do odder things, to eat without having to slave.
867085;1412907886;mircea_popescu;decimation and, note, they also display the mild, 1700s skepticism.
867086;1412907909;decimation;yeah that's true, need more of that around
867087;1412907940;decimation;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/10/amazon_retail_store/
867088;1412907940;assbot;Sh** just got real: Amazon to open actual shop in New York City The Register
867089;1412907946;decimation;amazon has jumped the shark
867090;1412908006;gabriel_laddel;decimation: re, the problem with lisp... this isn't CL's problem, and not a real problem anyway. Compare to writing ~ALGOL on c-machine.
867091;1412908105;decimation;?? what part isn't the problem? 'automatic parallel-ization?
867092;1412908186;gabriel_laddel;you're claim is that the problem with lisp is that it's not built for the c-machine. my point is that even on c-machines it's still better than anything else out there.
867093;1412908215;decimation;that might be true, I'm not sure I can contain the set of all possible languages in my brain
867094;1412908228;gabriel_laddel;elaborate..?
867095;1412908229;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: tricky bit here. until rather recently (2009-ish) this was debatable (sparse ecosystems of publicly-available libraries in cl to deal with unfortunately ubiquitous crud like www)
867096;1412908266;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: I see. What I don't understand is why CLers haven't just ditched the web.
867097;1412908268;asciilifeform;problem (or not problem, depending on who you are) is that most cl work was and is done by 'naggum-like' figures - that is, behind closed doors, no public derping, no 'foss'
867098;1412908298;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00074114 = 16.0086 BTC [-] {2}
867099;1412908318;decimation;indeed, for instance from the yegge article: "We retired Mailman. That's because we have the Quality With a Name — namely, Suckiness. We suck. We couldn't find anyone who was good enough at Emacs-Lisp to make it work. "
867100;1412908340;asciilifeform;again with the lisp lumping.
867101;1412908352;asciilifeform;as if emacs lisp had anything whatsoever to do with common lisp other than using s-expressios.
867102;1412908356;asciilifeform;*expressions
867103;1412908362;decimation;python is lisp too!
867104;1412908365;decimation;:)
867105;1412908376;asciilifeform;let's call 'c', 'pascal', 'python', 'fortran' --> ALGOL.
867106;1412908387;gabriel_laddel;done.
867107;1412908413;decimation;I'm game.
867108;1412908453;asciilifeform;except one problem
867109;1412908465;asciilifeform;this dignified the crud with name of a mostly honourable ancestor.
867110;1412908473;decimation;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/06/sammy_splurging_on_semiconductor_fab/
867111;1412908474;assbot;Hot DRAM! Samsung splurges $15 BILLION on Korean chip fab The Register
867112;1412908483;asciilifeform;like calling modern euroderps 'romans' (or even 'gauls', etc)
867113;1412908492;asciilifeform;the ducks may have come from the trucks, but how now.
867114;1412908508;decimation;the obvious problem with derping on better hardware is the extremely high cost hurdle
867115;1412908519;mircea_popescu;!up gubatron
867116;1412908521;decimation;derping on c-machine is essentially free
867117;1412908581;asciilifeform;i just love it when some clinical idiot decides to make inferences from his derpitudinous youth involving elisp on x86 to actual lisp on actual iron built for it
867118;1412908591;asciilifeform;esp. if ignorant of the latter
867119;1412908592;mircea_popescu;unfortunately ubiquitous crud like www <<< there's a major paradigm shift underplayed here. for approximately 1980 (kiler micro) to 2009, the ONLY utility of computing was www. with bitcoin, the www is a minor point, other things are major points now.
867120;1412908601;mircea_popescu;and ill bbs.
867121;1412908689;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: I'm at a loss for a better name. ALGOL, ~algol or algol is fine with me. Even their honorable ancestor was part of a fruitless evolutionary tree.
867122;1412908761;decimation;in case folks haven't seen the latest amusement with x86: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/intel-underestimates-error-bounds-by-1-3-quintillion/
867123;1412908761;assbot;Intel Underestimates Error Bounds by 1.3 quintillion | Random ASCII
867124;1412909042;asciilifeform;decimation: anyone who ever tries to actually use intel's trig functions - discovers this, yes.
867125;1412909076;asciilifeform;aaand,
867126;1412909077;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#853034
867127;1412909078;assbot;Logged on 01-10-2014 03:13:19; asciilifeform: phun phact. traditionally, the folks who write cpu manuals (how many people here have seen them alive? dead tree manuals) don't have access to original design specs.
867128;1412909084;asciilifeform;don't say i didn't warn.
867129;1412909099;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#853040
867130;1412909102;assbot;Logged on 01-10-2014 03:14:52; asciilifeform: so there is a mostly unwritten 'talmud' of differences between intel's manuals and the reality.
867131;1412909103;decimation;asciilifeform: in this case the error was so well-publicized intel promised to... update the docs
867132;1412909104;asciilifeform;etc
867133;1412909123;asciilifeform;afaik they don't even sell printed docs now.
867134;1412909129;asciilifeform;so, they'll update a pdf turd.
867135;1412909132;asciilifeform;big fat deal.
867136;1412909167;decimation;I wish I could just connect a pipe from the sse register to my own fpga machine
867137;1412909188;asciilifeform;decimation: what you may not know is that intel sells this. and amd as well. for $maxint.
867138;1412909208;asciilifeform;golden toilet for u.s. 'intelligence komyoonity'
867139;1412909214;decimation;yeah I've heard of the 'hybrid fpga cpu' design
867140;1412909248;asciilifeform;i've been trying, and failing, for some years, to get a hold of one (just one!) on the junk markets
867141;1412909248;thestringpuller;;;later tell nubbins` let me know when a good time to discuss a second order with you. i think we may have sold all 6 shirts.
867142;1412909248;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867143;1412909295;decimation;similar animal http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2014#795151
867144;1412909296;assbot;Logged on 13-08-2014 23:40:47; decimation: http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/212001/Catapult_ISCA_2014.pdf << microserf implemented fpga co-processors for bing search, paper is mildly interesting
867145;1412909366;asciilifeform;not all that similar. cpu in fpga fabric. you can do this right now
867146;1412909375;asciilifeform;a few hundy of 'ebay' parts.
867147;1412909399;asciilifeform;i'm assuming you want a specifically x86 variant for something.
867148;1412909419;asciilifeform;because 'xilinx' sells, by the tonne, a large fpga with built in 'ppc' cores.
867149;1412909423;asciilifeform;(i own several.)
867150;1412909466;asciilifeform;(x86 is rather too complex to actually implement in any extant fpga and still leave room for something useful on top)
867151;1412909479;decimation;I guess I was thinking of "connecting the pipes"
867152;1412909493;asciilifeform;no real way of doing this at full clock
867153;1412909497;asciilifeform;other than to host them on one die
867154;1412909507;asciilifeform;hence the rarity.
867155;1412909532;decimation;today I was using the xilinix ise - it's a piece of shit
867156;1412909537;asciilifeform;aye, yes it is.
867157;1412909560;asciilifeform;and there is literally no alternative (other than 'altera' - who have a considerably fouler turd)
867158;1412909585;decimation;I've heard that the 'synplify' synthesizer is much better, but costs golden toilet cash
867159;1412909596;asciilifeform;the serious fpga market (vs. 'lattice' & friends, who largely get used for minor glue logic) is a duopoly.
867160;1412909624;asciilifeform;decimation: understand why the actual internals are secret.
867161;1412909652;asciilifeform;decimation: both 'xilinx' and 'altera' make the bulk of their profit by renting out the right to use 'cores' (as they call them) - libraries, to a normal person
867162;1412909658;asciilifeform;e.g., ethernet card
867163;1412909661;asciilifeform;dram controller
867164;1412909665;decimation;right, or softcpu with bus turd
867165;1412909665;asciilifeform;mips cpu
867166;1412909666;asciilifeform;etc.
867167;1412909687;asciilifeform;they have literally no way of enforcing their copyright other than obfuscation
867168;1412909705;asciilifeform;hence, some of the gnarliest, moving-target obfuscation in the known world.
867169;1412909740;asciilifeform;(each new series of 'xilinx' chip has considerably altered internals, to make past reverser's efforts less useful)
867170;1412909791;asciilifeform;basically, fpga works, but all existing high-density examples are sold by scammers of a kind - who absolutely could not abide the buyer using these items as the schoolbook promised - 'reconfigurable computer'
867171;1412909794;decimation;the problem is that one must compile a secret 'talmud' of RTL that can be written which will actually work, as opposed to being valid
867172;1412909816;asciilifeform;and an even gnarlier talmud of combinations that will result in anything like usable performance
867173;1412909829;asciilifeform;example.
867174;1412909845;asciilifeform;you can read an sdram spec by, e.g., 'micron' (i did) and implement a ddr2 sdram controller.
867175;1412909849;asciilifeform;but it won't work
867176;1412909872;asciilifeform;unless you can somehow learn where the chip's fabric puts various i/o in relation to other circuitry
867177;1412909892;asciilifeform;so everybody ends up using the vendor's.
867178;1412909897;decimation;depressingly, this results in large-scale projects being soft-cpu sequential turds, rather than asynchronous combinatorial nets where possible
867179;1412909911;asciilifeform;because fpga in the schoolbook sense is not actually available.
867180;1412909913;asciilifeform;at any price.
867181;1412909922;decimation;yeah ask any fpga design who have attempted to write 'ddr' interface if you want to hear sadness & tears
867182;1412909930;asciilifeform;you'd have to buy 'xilinx' or 'altera' - the company - to go with the chip. and publicly gut it.
867183;1412909931;gabriel_laddel;am I correct in assuming that documenting efforts in reverse engineering a particular xlinx model is illegal / will land one in trouble with usg?
867184;1412909941;asciilifeform;one fellow got pretty far
867185;1412909948;asciilifeform;but problem is, such efforts are quickly obsoleted.
867186;1412909955;decimation;eh, I doubt usg will care much
867187;1412909963;asciilifeform;as in, by the time you're done, the chip is no longer commercially available in quantity.
867188;1412909976;decimation;it's more the issue ascii points out, if you want the latest shit you are out of luck
867189;1412909992;gabriel_laddel;I see.
867190;1412910006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25722 @ 0.00074334 = 19.1202 BTC [+] {4}
867191;1412910006;asciilifeform;thing you must appreciate, if never having worked with fpga, is that they just barely work.
867192;1412910019;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: do you have a link handy for the fellow who got pretty far?
867193;1412910036;asciilifeform;e.g., you can lay out the equivalent of a '486' and get around that performance, but only if you have some idea of the actual physical topology of the circuit.
867194;1412910136;asciilifeform;http://code.google.com/p/debit
867195;1412910137;assbot;debit - reverse-engineering tools for FPGA bitstreams - Google Project Hosting
867196;1412910142;asciilifeform;and elsewhere, i forget where
867197;1412910163;asciilifeform;http://www.fpgarelated.com/comp.arch.fpga/thread/62565/debit-xilinx-bitstream-decompiler-project-has-been-vanished-or-does-someone-know-the-url.php << censored now and again
867198;1412910164;assbot;debit- xilinx bitstream decompiler project has been vanished? or does someone know the URL | Comp.Arch.FPGA | FPGARelated.com
867199;1412910180;decimation;fyi http://www.parallax.com/microcontrollers/propeller-1-open-source
867200;1412910180;assbot;Propeller 1 Open Source | Parallax Inc
867201;1412910203;mircea_popescu; you'd have to buy 'xilinx' or 'altera' - the company - to go with the chip. and publicly gut it. << it will happen.
867202;1412910220;asciilifeform;decimation: there is no shortage whatsoever of open 'verilog' code for 10000+ things
867203;1412910231;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: decimation: thank you.
867204;1412910235;decimation;yeah, some of them are useful
867205;1412910242;asciilifeform;decimation: problem is lack of fpga with documented layout, so you aren't chained to a vendor's turdware.
867206;1412910269;decimation;I can't imagine that this business model of making enemies of your customers will survive
867207;1412910298;mircea_popescu;not with internet-connected customers. it just can;t.
867208;1412910312;asciilifeform;shame fpga was invented too late for soviet version
867209;1412910332;decimation;yeah that's a good point, why doesn't samsung or some chinese vendor bust this stuff up?
867210;1412910356;asciilifeform;decimation: bad fit for chinese business model
867211;1412910356;decimation;it's not like there's a mystery about how to design an fpga
867212;1412910362;asciilifeform;decimation: have to understand what fpga is used for
867213;1412910373;asciilifeform;it has very little role to play in the kind of items chicoms make
867214;1412910398;asciilifeform;mostly used in miniscule runs, prototypes - where american units generally suffice
867215;1412910409;asciilifeform;because it doesn't really matter what they cost
867216;1412910427;asciilifeform;the kind of machine that absolutely requires an fpga - simply has not been designed yet.
867217;1412910437;asciilifeform;and when designed - won't be chinese.
867218;1412910470;mircea_popescu;hm.
867219;1412910545;The20YearIRCloud;What kind of outlook do you guys have on silver & gold?
867220;1412910555;asciilifeform;i've been working on 'genuinely' reconfigurable cpu for some years now. but, understand, most of the reading i do - is material as old as i am.
867221;1412910559;asciilifeform;in ancient, dusty library.
867222;1412910569;mircea_popescu;but since losethos has been mentioned : i do suspect ninjashogun is of a similar brand, without of course the technical ability.
867223;1412910580;asciilifeform;because the subject 'is dead dontchaknow, study something modern like blubbazilla'
867224;1412910601;decimation;asciilifeform: the related topic of asynchronous design seems to be in the same state
867225;1412910608;asciilifeform;decimation: yes.
867226;1412910619;decimation;'we don't do it because no chips and tools' 'no chips and tools because no demand'
867227;1412910629;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhRYGm_b9A
867228;1412910630;assbot;TempleOS: AfterEgypt - YouTube
867229;1412910637;asciilifeform;decimation: someone did build a clockless 'arm' a few years ago, an israeli firm quietly sells it for military clients, it's a footnote mostly.
867230;1412910684;asciilifeform;yes it is neat
867231;1412910687;mircea_popescu;!up devthedev
867232;1412910691;asciilifeform;but virtually impossible, last i tried, to actually run
867233;1412910697;The20YearIRCloud;clockless?
867234;1412910697;decimation;these folks http://apt.cs.manchester.ac.uk/projects/processors/amulet/
867235;1412910697;assbot;The Advanced Processor Technologies Group
867236;1412910703;devthedev;Good evening
867237;1412910704;asciilifeform;(won't go under 'vmware' or any machine i could dig up)
867238;1412910707;asciilifeform;losethos ^
867239;1412910739;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 1 or so min. mark - the infamous 'talk to god' proggy.
867240;1412910757;mircea_popescu;the whole thing looks like open transactions.
867241;1412910765;decimation;The20YearIRCloud: my opinion - silver is an industrial metal, gold is going to be replaced by bitcoin in the long run but is still a reasonable altcoin - but note that it is not independent of gov'ts with big vaults of the stuff
867242;1412910800;The20YearIRCloud;You think govts are honest about their gold and metal reserves? decimation
867243;1412910803;mircea_popescu;it's improbable they'll move significantly either direction.
867244;1412910812;decimation;The20YearIRCloud: clockless - ie no clock - a cpu which executes instructions at whatever speed its logic circuits can cycle their state
867245;1412910825;The20YearIRCloud;I'm debating whether I want to get more BTC, PMs, or guns, or if I should balance what I have now a different way
867246;1412910847;The20YearIRCloud;I didn't realize that it was possible to do that, are the speeds typically much higher than what their clocked counterparts are?
867247;1412910852;decimation;The20YearIRCloud: they are about as honest with gold as they are with their btc holdings
867248;1412910883;mircea_popescu;decimation well, no. reversedly. for instance, germany claims to hold some gold it doesn't, and doesn't claim to hold any bitcoin, tho i think they do hold some.
867249;1412910895;decimation;The20YearIRCloud: they can be, but the problem is that they are 'difficult' to design because the soccer-ball-chasing-6-year-olds of academia & industry have declared the tech 'dead'
867250;1412910919;The20YearIRCloud;Germany is trying to get their gold back as it was all held in Paris, london and NYC. Out of all the countries I think they have a pretty transparent gold program, and it's showing how dishonest the US is
867251;1412910921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00074082 = 27.6326 BTC [-] {4}
867252;1412910946;mircea_popescu;myeah.
867253;1412910951;The20YearIRCloud;Isn't it the same way with large paralell programming (High multi-core stuff) as they've lagged behind on development so much that some consider it aobsolete?
867254;1412910994;decimation;mircea_popescu: good point. The ongoing drama with the fed & its german gold holdings is quite amusing
867255;1412911047;decimation;The20YearIRCloud: it's safe to say that writing software that makes efficient use of 'modern' multicore chip designs is not a simple undertaking
867256;1412911067;The20YearIRCloud;I wish it was easier to do, that way I could run dwarf fortress in all its glory
867257;1412911072;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform guess what you and mr davis have in common.
867258;1412911100;decimation;lol I tried to play dwarf fortress once, it seemed like a colassal waste of time, but amusing
867259;1412911117;mircea_popescu;"I designed a 3 axis stepper-motor-driven milling machine 1996-1997 with a CAD/CAM package for a company I started called Home Automation and Robotic Equipment."
867260;1412911151;kakobrekla;its a popular thing.
867261;1412911167;The20YearIRCloud;It's fantastic, i'm told it has one of the worst learning curves even surpassing star control. But once you understand it, it's immensely fun
867262;1412911647;mircea_popescu;;;ticker
867263;1412911649;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 367.55, Best ask: 369.05, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 369.1, 24 hour volume: 47516.56487113, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 369.384866292
867264;1412911777;decimation;pete's link about companies on the 'buyback treadmill' is hilarious
867265;1412911811;The20YearIRCloud;buyback treadmill?
867266;1412911913;decimation;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#866926
867267;1412911914;assbot;Logged on 10-10-2014 00:44:58; pete_dushenski: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/amid-buyback-backlash--what-else-can-slow-growing-ibm-or-bed-bath-do-163617528.html << those stilts.
867268;1412912000;decimation;large holders of bezzlars have no idea how to profitably invest them, so they just publically embezzle them
867269;1412912027;The20YearIRCloud;kind of throw the entire premise out when they start talking about wealth inequality
867270;1412912032;mircea_popescu;i don't get how cash distribution can be held against the management.
867271;1412912045;mircea_popescu;they're overcapitalized and downsizing. what's wrong with that ?
867272;1412912066;The20YearIRCloud;"It puts less money in the hands of the people that know what they're doing - the menial laborers'
867273;1412912083;decimation;mircea_popescu: normally it wouldn't, unless it is supiciously coupled with said management excercising their generous options
867274;1412912084;mircea_popescu;the traditional route is to pursue "sexy" mergers and go bankrupt a decade later. this is better for everyone.
867275;1412912103;mircea_popescu;decimation a well that's a diff story. but the problem are the generous options then.
867276;1412912127;decimation;mircea_popescu: agreed.
867277;1412913360;asciilifeform;cnc << i distinctly recall kakobrekla also has one.
867278;1412913365;asciilifeform;(built)
867279;1412913509;asciilifeform;http://ultrastudio.org/en/C_gate << intro to clockless for n00bs
867280;1412913509;assbot;C gate - Ultrastudio.org
867281;1412913549;asciilifeform;incidentally, goes great with trinary logic (how? exercise for alert reader.)
867282;1412913646;mircea_popescu;sooo... ipad has a memory leak
867283;1412913664;mircea_popescu;if you search for a generic term in their package manager and keep scrolling... eventually iot crashes
867284;1412913686;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: almost every vendor proggy on that thing has leaks
867285;1412913728;asciilifeform;(crash on ios can, of course, result from conditions other than out-of-ram-kill)
867286;1412913766;mircea_popescu;apparently stevieboy's idea of apt-get is a sort of mozilla
867287;1412913809;mircea_popescu;and you bitch about the pile of turd that's c++/python software built on top of a c os ?
867288;1412913815;mircea_popescu;what's the ipad stack then.
867289;1412913819;gabriel_laddel;following up 20 post care package from #b-a blog roll http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758453 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EVPPZSYd
867290;1412913821;assbot;Logged on 16-07-2014 20:32:30; mike_c: ok - compile a list of 20 blog posts from blogs.b-a that are appropriate to target. tweet one a day @ target.
867291;1412913846;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel who's your target ?
867292;1412913916;thestringpuller;good evening hanbot or I guess morning?
867293;1412913953;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: The list of targets, irc is Nick Szabo, Nicholas Taleb.
867294;1412913964;asciilifeform;lol!
867295;1412913985;hanbot;good timeperiod thestringpuller! :)
867296;1412913992;asciilifeform;i can't picture what taleb (or for that matter herr sz) would get out of my turds
867297;1412913993;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: I sent it to Terry A Davis, perhaps he can be convinced to write Lisp...
867298;1412914015;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: davis reads my site, i think; grudgingly
867299;1412914037;mircea_popescu;is the guy actually nuts or just being an internet person ?
867300;1412914056;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: his bread and rent are paid for by usg as 'disability pension'
867301;1412914073;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: so he has to be either 1) genuine nutter 2) play the part until he goes to his grave
867302;1412914098;mircea_popescu;o yea ? because if he stops what happens ?
867303;1412914107;asciilifeform;then he ends up like me, possibly
867304;1412914111;xanthyos;it's not difficult for an actor to get lost in that part
867305;1412914125;mircea_popescu;it is a pretty big part.
867306;1412914139;asciilifeform;'we are what we pretend to be, so must be careful what we pretend to be'
867307;1412914192;asciilifeform;http://www.terna.org/enewsletter/Apr-Jun%202010/VLSI.pdf << trinary vlsi cells, for the really serious nutters
867308;1412914223;asciilifeform;http://dxdy.ru/topic1670-150.html << ru thread re: above.
867309;1412914223;assbot; : Computer Science - 11
867310;1412914290;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: re, what they could get out of your posts. You've rather clearly articulated the problem with the current computing stack. I'm unaware of any other person documenting the incumbent's desire to cater to the stupid. As thinking men, they must find it irritating to interface with today's machines.
867311;1412914367;asciilifeform;gabriel_laddel: the crux of the matter, though, is that the only possible proof is experimental. and so what i really should've worked on, instead of essays, would've been some scam like davis has
867312;1412914382;asciilifeform;because it is quite impossible to carry out the proof while day job.
867313;1412914462;gabriel_laddel;asciilifeform: I suppose. In any case, your essays exist.
867314;1412914491;asciilifeform;i've concinced perhaps... 3, 4, 5 people who actually understood what the hell the entire picture is about.
867315;1412914496;asciilifeform;i suppose that's more than some people can say.
867316;1412914505;asciilifeform;*convinced
867317;1412914579;mircea_popescu;there's probably thousands.
867318;1412914585;mircea_popescu;the trouble is, monkeys be lazy.
867319;1412914603;mircea_popescu;and laziness in monkeys is perhaps the most complex self-writing piece of software ever
867320;1412914619;asciilifeform;there's perhaps 2, 3 other monkeys who can do it also. but they're likely also stuck working for living.
867321;1412914691;asciilifeform;1 of the 3 other monkeys, perhaps, knows russian (which imho is an absolute hard requirement for this particular stunt)
867322;1412915130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7897 @ 0.00074074 = 5.8496 BTC [-]
867323;1412915249;cazalla;;;later tell devthedev i changed a few things so that article is not overly promotional for altcoins or snapcard/wix
867324;1412915249;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867325;1412915275;thestringpuller;and cazalla tellin' me he ain't an editor
867326;1412915283;thestringpuller;;)
867327;1412915293;cazalla;thestringpuller, i said writer, not editor :P
867328;1412915311;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/wix-com-integration-with-snapcard-allows-sites-to-accept-bitcoin/
867329;1412915348;thestringpuller;how does day 8 look?
867330;1412915352;thestringpuller;in terms of traffic?
867331;1412915352;asciilifeform;https://www.bitcoinezy.com << linked from 'qntra'. mis-shapen usb drive with winblows exes, mega-lol!
867332;1412915353;assbot;The Easiest Way To Buy Bitcoin | BitcoinEzy
867333;1412915373;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: what happens when one of these "secure" wallets gets exploited?
867334;1412915380;thestringpuller;hardware wallets*
867335;1412915384;asciilifeform;afaik that isn't even a 'hardware wallet'
867336;1412915393;asciilifeform;at least, nothing on the vendor site seems to claim it outright
867337;1412915419;thestringpuller;oh i was thinking of bitstash
867338;1412915432;*;asciilifeform not familiar with above
867339;1412915435;thestringpuller;http://www.bitstash.com
867340;1412915436;assbot;BitStash
867341;1412915439;cazalla;thestringpuller, 924 views for 11 articles, my only concern with this plug in is it might be tracking BingoBoingo and my own use of the site
867342;1412915462;asciilifeform;'Accessed via hardened bluetooth wireless using your mobile devices....' << ahahaha that one.
867343;1412915488;thestringpuller;yea so when one of these things gets hacked is it an immediate game over?
867344;1412915499;asciilifeform;the one that picks up 'radio havana' to generate keys, yes
867345;1412915508;asciilifeform;game over for whom ?
867346;1412915512;thestringpuller;the consumer
867347;1412915513;mircea_popescu;the construction "isn't limited to simply Bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Ripple and Dogecoin" is broken in that it expands to "isn't limited to X, it's limited to X Y Z and K"
867348;1412915545;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller prolly.
867349;1412915575;asciilifeform;depends also if pwned by theorist in a garret somewhere, or by vendor, by design, for mass vacuuming
867350;1412915603;asciilifeform;although if remote pwnhole, can lead to same end.
867351;1412915633;asciilifeform;keys generated 'with atomospheric noise and prng' suggest latter scenario
867352;1412915673;thestringpuller;lol. sounds like a mole. "trust our wallet". vendor uses backdoor to steal all the consumer funds.
867353;1412915690;asciilifeform;not vendor per se. vendor's vendor.
867354;1412915697;asciilifeform;(his owner)
867355;1412915705;asciilifeform;but i digress.
867356;1412915779;thestringpuller;looks like nothing is as secure as a good 'ol paper wallet buried like old school treasure.
867357;1412915878;cazalla;mircea_popescu, fixed
867358;1412917555;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: old school treasure << 'the!' treasure thread >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2014#816402
867359;1412917556;assbot;Logged on 30-08-2014 20:46:17; asciilifeform: but, as every treatise on the subject invariably begins with, first try to understand what is to be hidden - and from whom
867360;1412917570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00074068 = 15.7765 BTC [-] {2}
867361;1412918153;thestringpuller;thanks asciilifeform, i missed that thread.
867362;1412918268;thestringpuller;modern treasure hiding. i guess in international waters you have to worry about pirates?
867363;1412918318;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: hardest part, aside from constructing the hypothetical apparatus, is finding the site again without recourse to satellite.
867364;1412918420;thestringpuller;well i guess then treasure hunters shall find it in future if you bite the bullet before retrieval.
867365;1412918426;thestringpuller;not the first time that's happened I suppose...
867366;1412918460;thestringpuller;or perhaps it remains unclaimed for many lifetimes...
867367;1412918477;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: go fetch treasure from 5km+ down.
867368;1412918495;asciilifeform;in particular, while not knowing where.
867369;1412918499;thestringpuller;the titanic hid all but lost treasures for nearly a century...
867370;1412918533;asciilifeform;titanic is at ~4km, afaik - and, still there...
867371;1412918554;thestringpuller;this also intrigued me about dropping a message in a bottle down the marianas trench...
867372;1412918579;thestringpuller;but i don't think many devices could withstand the entire trip
867373;1412918652;decimation;thestringpuller: I think the engineering is feasible, but it certainly wouldn't be cheap. As ascii emphasized in that thread, this is for items worth >$100k 'hiding'
867374;1412918719;thestringpuller;i understand. my imagination likes to run wild. I was thinking of trusting a >$100k fortune in BTC to a paper wallet via treasure hiding, vs. the so-called "secure" hardware wallets
867375;1412918721;asciilifeform;100k being a very conservative figure.
867376;1412918773;thestringpuller;but the problem asciilifeform has described makes for more effort of retrieval in the former scenario.
867377;1412918790;thestringpuller;if retrieval is at all possible in ones lifetime after stashing.
867378;1412918824;asciilifeform;trivial retrieval with hydrophone scheme (other than how to find location. learn stellar navigation.)
867379;1412918858;thestringpuller;does burying device on remote island (possibly uncharted) not work anymore?
867380;1412918862;thestringpuller;or is this method outdated.
867381;1412918876;asciilifeform;island is cheap to search.
867382;1412918878;decimation;stellar navigation is generally only as good as your time source
867383;1412918893;asciilifeform;decimation: dollar store quartz watch.
867384;1412918922;decimation;loses seconds per month, and how are you gonna set it if you can't count on 'infrastructure'?
867385;1412918938;thestringpuller;decimation: this is why it was so difficult to tell time in the sea during the old days.
867386;1412918960;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: it's funny how a quartz watch does what a very expensive device did during the 1700's.
867387;1412918968;asciilifeform;building machines today that can be counted on 50 years from now - is a solvable problem.
867388;1412918972;thestringpuller;in regards to sea travel
867389;1412918976;asciilifeform;military engineers consider it every day.
867390;1412918988;decimation;even in those old days they could reconstruct 'time' from solar observations & so forth, just took awhile to do so
867391;1412919012;asciilifeform;not the same machines as sold to consumers/chumps, yes
867392;1412919015;asciilifeform;but buildable.
867393;1412919023;thestringpuller;well you didn't have a "torch" of time when you left the mainland...at some point watches didn't exist.
867394;1412919042;thestringpuller;you know time in relation to your current position but not in relation to the mainland.
867395;1412919043;decimation;asciilifeform: indeed, the first step for someone considering 'off-the-grid' navigation would be to find a way to keep the 'fire' of accurate time burning without external aid
867396;1412919049;thestringpuller;longitude is hard.
867397;1412919102;asciilifeform;not actually hard if you've discovered electromagnetism (electric tuning fork clock, considerably simpler than harrison's chronometer, is quite easy to construct)
867398;1412919142;thestringpuller;was electomagnetism widely discovered at the point the chronometer came about?
867399;1412919161;thestringpuller;i remember there was a large bounty for the chronometer during it's inception
867400;1412919163;asciilifeform;nope.
867401;1412919172;asciilifeform;and yes, bounty.
867402;1412919180;decimation;nope, it would take a few $1,000 in ovenized crystal oscillators and/or rubidium (rubidium clocks have a finite lifetime though)
867403;1412919181;asciilifeform;(there is an - american? - film about it.)
867404;1412919201;asciilifeform;decimation: to locate what? an ant in the sea ?)
867405;1412919292;decimation;asciilifeform: hehe well certainly one would have to calculate 'how close' one must be in order to effectively trigger release
867406;1412919337;decimation;presumably the closer one can get, the more alternative retrieval methods become feasible
867407;1412919350;thestringpuller;diving 5km is pretty bad.
867408;1412919350;asciilifeform;if capsule floats a microphone near the thermocline (naturally, by a wire too thin to be lifted by) can 'pop' from 1000+km.
867409;1412919361;asciilifeform;owner - doesn't need to dive.
867410;1412919363;asciilifeform;at all.
867411;1412919366;decimation;I saw the "H1" clock at the Greenwich observatory, it was a fancy machine
867412;1412919368;asciilifeform;enemy - yes, has to dive.
867413;1412919381;decimation;owner must dive if release fails
867414;1412919387;thestringpuller;^
867415;1412919392;decimation;or swab the bottom somehow
867416;1412919393;asciilifeform;if release fails - he's not an owner, any more.
867417;1412919399;asciilifeform;like bitcoin.
867418;1412919402;thestringpuller;point taken.
867419;1412919403;decimation;hehe a gift to neptune
867420;1412919405;asciilifeform;what do you own if lose key.
867421;1412919410;asciilifeform;your tears.
867422;1412919414;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2DD4ZYC.txt )
867423;1412919414;thestringpuller;!b 3
867424;1412919420;thestringpuller;grr I'll rebash that
867425;1412919422;assbot;Need a number of lines.
867426;1412919422;thestringpuller;!b
867427;1412919461;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00074049 = 1.444 BTC [-]
867428;1412919617;decimation;;;ticker
867429;1412919619;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 376.06, Best ask: 378.68, Bid-ask spread: 2.62000, Last trade: 378.68, 24 hour volume: 48239.04792239, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 369.705424437
867430;1412919638;decimation;it will be interesting to see if this bottom holds
867431;1412919719;asciilifeform;http://teledynebenthos.com/product/acoustic_modems/960-series-atm-966 << off the shelf.
867432;1412919721;assbot;Teledyne Benthos Acoustic Modems - 960 Series ATM-966
867433;1412919738;asciilifeform;2-6 km range. max depth 6km.
867434;1412919759;thestringpuller;6km is pretty deep...
867435;1412919982;decimation;asciilifeform: re: 50 year lifetime << http://globalsp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/ru_webinar_BX_advantage_30_%20nov_12.pdf 'enterprise' servers have hilarious claimed 'mtbf' (1.7 million hours!)
867436;1412920016;asciilifeform;wandering decimal place? lulz
867437;1412920048;decimation;;;calc 1700000/(24*364.25)
867438;1412920048;gribble;194.463509494
867439;1412920132;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 30000 @ 0.00003502 = 1.0506 BTC [-] {2}
867440;1412920681;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40650 @ 0.00074045 = 30.0993 BTC [-] {2}
867441;1412921267;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/the-rise-and-rise-of-piracy/
867442;1412921358;mircea_popescu;this'd be a decent idea for an oglaf strip : a retarded indian that doesn't quite grok the entire scalping business so he's going around with a string of pubic hair patches
867443;1412921435;mircea_popescu;"As he packs up his BFL units to sell, he explains to his son that he threw away his bitcoins and their future because he is stupid and ignored MPOE-PR's posts on Bitcoin Talk. Despite all of this, Dan continues to wear his Butterfly Labs t-shirt till the end of the film, as if it is a remnant, a small piece of a future he will not enjoy."
867444;1412921438;mircea_popescu;no fucking way ?!
867445;1412921472;cazalla;that's my interpretation
867446;1412921502;cazalla;he shows his kid a bitcoin difficulty chart and says look at all the people mining, these bfls are shit so im selling em
867447;1412921541;thickasthieves;is that like right befror it hits $1000?
867448;1412921599;mircea_popescu;hilarious article.
867449;1412921601;cazalla;dunno, i only skipped through looking for good parts
867450;1412921622;thickasthieves;i havent even taken the time to read 1 reddit post on the movie
867451;1412921635;thickasthieves;it's repelled me from the start
867452;1412921723;cazalla;it's not good, the only thing that stood out was the guy turned from enthusiastic to gutted, you can't miss it
867453;1412921840;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00074342 = 13.1585 BTC [+] {2}
867454;1412922450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30072 @ 0.00074371 = 22.3648 BTC [+]
867455;1412922470;pete_dushenski;;;isitup fullnode.co
867456;1412922471;gribble;Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
867457;1412922479;pete_dushenski;;;isitdown fullnode.co
867458;1412922483;gribble;fullnode.co is down
867459;1412922489;pete_dushenski;such lulz
867460;1412922528;pete_dushenski;praise be to pankkake for calling their ass out back in june http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/
867461;1412922529;assbot;Fullnode.co is a scam | pankkake
867462;1412922619;punkman;http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/intel-underestimates-error-bounds-by-1-3-quintillion/
867463;1412922619;assbot;Intel Underestimates Error Bounds by 1.3 quintillion | Random ASCII
867464;1412922683;decimation;punkman: already beat you to it: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867122
867465;1412922685;assbot;Logged on 10-10-2014 02:39:21; decimation: in case folks haven't seen the latest amusement with x86: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/intel-underestimates-error-bounds-by-1-3-quintillion/
867466;1412922694;punkman;oh
867467;1412922739;punkman;more lulz from twatter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzjxrFYCMAAw-Kh.jpg
867468;1412922801;pete_dushenski;punkman: ha! nice.
867469;1412922805;mircea_popescu;has a point.
867470;1412922807;decimation;lol mormon as a branch of methodist
867471;1412922841;mircea_popescu;seems reasonable.
867472;1412922843;mircea_popescu;where'd you put it ?
867473;1412922861;mircea_popescu;it's definitely "colorful neoprotestant"
867474;1412922864;decimation;I guess one could make an argument, given the *
867475;1412922928;pete_dushenski;decimation: they both had found the teachings of one particular man to be worth branching off for
867476;1412922942;pete_dushenski;i think i just mentioned that in a footnote recently...
867477;1412922965;pete_dushenski;http://contravex.com/2014/10/02/thank-your-lucky-trolls/#footnote_3_1436
867478;1412922966;assbot;Thank Your Lucky Trolls | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
867479;1412922980;pete_dushenski;"Methodism is like Mormonism in that it follows the life and teachings of a recently living man. Methodism follows Britain John Wesley (1703–1791) and Mormonism follows American Joseph Smith (1805–1844). Maybe you can start a branch of Christianity too!"
867480;1412923001;pete_dushenski;one right after the other.
867481;1412923029;pete_dushenski;i guess i shoulda written "maybe you can start a branch of judaism too!"
867482;1412923113;mircea_popescu;brit ?
867483;1412923306;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: if capsule floats a microphone near the thermocline (naturally, by a wire too thin to be lifted by) can 'pop' from 1000+km. << unless someone/thing tried to lift it prior
867484;1412923377;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BziOkTiCQAAUYdl.png
867485;1412923400;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: king of the britains?
867486;1412923422;mircea_popescu;"follows Britain John Wesley " is broken
867487;1412923453;decimation;modern Methodism has degenerated into becoming fairly indistinct from the "liberal religion"
867488;1412923591;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: ya… it is.
867489;1412923598;mircea_popescu;generally, the proposition that you'll "go to heaven" through a certain recipe is doomed to create monsters
867490;1412923692;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/why-dogecoin-is-a-scam-why-the-people-pushing-it-are-assholes-why-business-insider-is-a-contemptible-piece-of-shit-why-anyone-who-ever-worked-for-it-will-be-dancing-in-the-street-for-nickels-and-wh/#comment-108628
867491;1412923696;assbot;Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
867492;1412923696;mircea_popescu;they're back
867493;1412923705;punkman;dat title
867494;1412923766;pete_dushenski;;;google itulip
867495;1412923767;gribble;iTulip.com - The Contrary Market View - For Independent Financial ...: ; Forum Actions - iTulip.com: ; 2013 Review and 2014 Forecast - Part I: The Last Bubble - Eric ...:
867496;1412923888;mircea_popescu;"iTulip.com Ad Policy As of March 31, 2006, you well see Goggle AdSense ads on iTulip.com."
867497;1412923936;decimation;lol dogecoin volume has suddenly doubled on cryptsy the past few weeks
867498;1412924245;mircea_popescu;shit assets don't simply die
867499;1412924281;mircea_popescu;they go to the pink sheets, to live as one of a few well specified chumpatron models
867500;1412924717;punkman;hah https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By_p21oCcAARuyp.jpg
867501;1412924770;mircea_popescu;can you translate ?
867502;1412924823;punkman;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_didn%27t_you_invest_in_Eastern_Poland%3F
867503;1412924823;assbot;Why didn't you invest in Eastern Poland? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
867504;1412924890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00074523 = 12.5199 BTC [+]
867505;1412925052;punkman;ah somethingawful already did it http://i.somethingawful.com/u/garbageday/2013/phriday/poland/zombieswithblenders_01.png http://i.somethingawful.com/u/garbageday/2013/phriday/poland/Entenzahn_01.png
867506;1412925988;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28828 @ 0.00074523 = 21.4835 BTC [+]
867507;1412927677;thickasthieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ityg2/warning_bitcoin_address_blacklists_have_been/cl5hng3
867508;1412927678;assbot;naspo comments on WARNING: Bitcoin Address Blacklists have been forced into the Gentoo Linux bitcoind distribution by Luke-jr against the will of other core devs. Gentoo maintainers are clueless and not reversing the change. Boycott Gentoo now.
867509;1412927743;thickasthieves;i know bingo mentioned it used luke's patches, but i didnt know the patches has blacklists
867510;1412927748;thickasthieves;bliacklists...
867511;1412928343;bounce;uh. yay, let's make bitcoin more like paypal and visa/mastercard, and arbitrarily shut out parties you don't like
867512;1412928426;RagnarDanneskjol;speaking of: 01:00 <#bitcoin-dev> petertoddgwillen: haha, yeah they do - mircea popescu had me buy him SomethingAwful passes with my credit card a few times so he could troll there
867513;1412929031;mircea_popescu;not like it actually does anything. bout as retarded as bayesian spam filtering.
867514;1412929053;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol it's in the logs.
867515;1412929093;RagnarDanneskjol;ahh
867516;1412929546;thickasthieves;i can appreciate luke-jr excercising his own voting/filtering rights though
867517;1412929556;thickasthieves;patching it into defaults is pretty lame
867518;1412929650;bounce;it's a curious discussion. he gets to patch the gentoo bitcoind because he's a core dev? why isn't that patch in mainline then?
867519;1412929818;assbot;luke-jr +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
867520;1412929844;thickasthieves;!up luke-jr
867521;1412929850;Luke-Jr;it's not appropriate for mainline; I'd reject it myself
867522;1412929882;thickasthieves;this turned into a whole fud in the trader chat, theyre all FINCEN WANTZ BLACKLISTSZ!
867523;1412929888;mircea_popescu;gentoo decided they'll let bitcoin in there as a luke thing.
867524;1412929893;mircea_popescu;hardly a reason to "boycott gentoo"
867525;1412929906;bounce;so what makes it appropriate for gentoo?
867526;1412929915;mircea_popescu;in fact, anyone with the werewithal to boycott as much as a donut stand can just as well patch out whatever.
867527;1412929916;thickasthieves;i'm like dude, look at the list
867528;1412929925;Luke-Jr;bounce: it's better than nothing, until we have a better spam filter implementation
867529;1412929932;bounce;uhm. no.
867530;1412929934;Luke-Jr;also, in Gentoo, it's optional
867531;1412929945;Luke-Jr;because we can just apply the patch or not
867532;1412929971;bounce;turns out it ended up as the default option, so that's one argument down the drain.
867533;1412929982;mircea_popescu;as per usual, reddit makes a mess of things. they're like ten year olds, those people. "o did you hear sugar kills ? sure, it killed sam's dog!"
867534;1412930014;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00074256 = 33.7865 BTC [-] {2}
867535;1412930028;mircea_popescu;cue memes of an antropomorphic sugar cube with chainsaw
867536;1412930033;Luke-Jr;bounce: still an option
867537;1412930042;Luke-Jr;it *should* be default, since it's better
867538;1412930045;thickasthieves;ok how many people using the bitcoin wallet in gentoo would blindly use this default
867539;1412930047;thickasthieves;7?
867540;1412930055;Luke-Jr;I don't have that exact number.
867541;1412930072;thickasthieves;we'll say 7 then
867542;1412930079;bounce;then that's still no argument. also you're not answering the question.
867543;1412930083;mircea_popescu;it looks eerily accurate
867544;1412930143;Luke-Jr;bounce: it's appropriate for everyone, just not every*thing*
867545;1412930154;thickasthieves;uhh
867546;1412930158;thickasthieves;which people are things?
867547;1412930158;Luke-Jr;bounce: and we wouldn't want to *force* it on anyone
867548;1412930165;Luke-Jr;thickasthieves: the reference code is a thing
867549;1412930177;bounce;this makes no sense
867550;1412930184;thickasthieves;the default in gentoo is a thing
867551;1412930295;mircea_popescu;look, it's really simple. gentoo doesn't give a shit about bitcoin, it's yet another crackpot app as far as they're concerned. at some internal review it was determined it's much too buggy to be in main, and so it got put wherever they put retarded shit, and put someone in charge of it, in this case luke. the someone in charge is doing weird shit to it, as you'd expect of someone in charge of a buggy piece of shit not
867552;1412930295;mircea_popescu;in main, whether it be luke or not.
867553;1412930305;mircea_popescu;none of this is remarkable, but in fact functioning as intended.
867554;1412930349;Luke-Jr;thickasthieves: the default in gentoo is for highly technical users to judge; the reference code is for developers to read
867555;1412930359;thickasthieves;basically, it's his domain until it isnt
867556;1412930361;bounce;well, at least someone thought up a nice logo for bitcoind-ljr.
867557;1412930364;mircea_popescu;if you're the sort of gentoo/linux/foss user that downloads and runs buggy pieces of shit, you're expected to either a) be conversant in code and fix em or else b) not run production.
867558;1412931393;thickasthieves;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/did-todays-satan-signal-sp-futures-give-all-clear-selling-begin
867559;1412931561;mircea_popescu;orly ?
867560;1412931678;mircea_popescu;lmao. dude... anyone can do that. including the derp writing the report.
867561;1412931759;thickasthieves;;;estimate
867562;1412931760;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 32873538172.4 based on data since last change | 34777196895.2 based on data for last three days
867563;1412931993;mircea_popescu;btw BingoBoingo http://www.majesticseo.com/charts/backlinks-discovery-chart/qntra.com?w=677&h=200&IndexDataSource=F
867564;1412932020;mircea_popescu;http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/bd5b619c6a586ec6d7078a5480ab241f73d58310f672d53d573aa45bb850c818-1G3pUAfJhsdZU8MYYnHxD1gW1bYpoRaDL3.txt
867565;1412932027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28697 @ 0.0007432 = 21.3276 BTC [+] {2}
867566;1412932029;mircea_popescu;so it turns out deedbot got haxed.
867567;1412932046;mircea_popescu;;;rated molokodesk
867568;1412932046;gribble;You rated user molokodesk on Tue Sep 30 07:54:20 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: b-a deedsbot dev. AAA would hire again..
867569;1412932052;mircea_popescu;;;rate molokodesk -1 meh.
867570;1412932053;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user molokodesk has changed from 2 to -1.
867571;1412932105;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That's the .com, the parking lot control company
867572;1412932142;mircea_popescu;a right you are. http://www.majesticseo.com/charts/backlinks-discovery-chart/qntra.net?w=677&h=200&IndexDataSource=F << looks much better
867573;1412932224;mircea_popescu;!up gud
867574;1412932226;mircea_popescu;!up gustaf
867575;1412932271;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00074421 = 17.6378 BTC [+]
867576;1412932517;mircea_popescu;!up disident
867577;1412932531;disident;hi huys
867578;1412932557;RagnarDanneskjol;hiya dis
867579;1412932608;BingoBoingo;;;later tell thestringpuller New high, 924 views over 459 persons per Wordpress stats
867580;1412932608;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867581;1412932706;Apocalyptic;%d
867582;1412932708;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 315045.65 in 353 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.23
867583;1412933857;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56214 @ 0.0007468 = 41.9806 BTC [+] {4}
867584;1412934174;mircea_popescu;wp stats are junk rly
867585;1412934331;BingoBoingo;Yeah, but until the quantcast is fed...
867586;1412934554;BingoBoingo;I'll be back in a few hours
867587;1412935626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15671 @ 0.00074875 = 11.7337 BTC [+]
867588;1412939508;thickasthieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iuf4s/lukejrs_public_apology_for_poor_gentoo_packaging/
867589;1412939509;assbot;Luke-Jr's public apology for poor Gentoo packaging default : Bitcoin
867590;1412939512;thickasthieves;ta-da!
867591;1412941367;bounce;well, that's something. IMO a blacklist on actors in the system is still entirely the wrong thing to even have. if you want to filter "abusive" txes you'd have to have some objective measure and preferrably a deterministic detection algorithm of abusiveness.
867592;1412941427;thickasthieves;http://www.coindesk.com/digital-asset-liquidity-exchange-melotic-closes-1-175-million-seed-round/ "curated digital assets"
867593;1412941427;assbot;Digital Asset Liquidity Provider Melotic Closes $1.175 Million Seed Round
867594;1412941469;RagnarDanneskjol;oh lord
867595;1412941508;bounce;why does one need a million to start an exchange?
867596;1412941555;thickasthieves;cuz you want your devs to stay for more than 10min?
867597;1412941593;thickasthieves;$1m aint much for an exchange
867598;1412941614;thickasthieves;it's a lot for a Bitfunder, sure
867599;1412941654;RagnarDanneskjol;but its Curated!
867600;1412942202;thickasthieves;curated is like saying they take responsibility for 3rd part listings, but not
867601;1412942207;thickasthieves;party*
867602;1412942214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00074436 = 10.0332 BTC [-]
867603;1412942242;RagnarDanneskjol;ha
867604;1412942580;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35324 @ 0.00074432 = 26.2924 BTC [-] {2}
867605;1412944856;kakobrekla; so it turns out deedbot got haxed. < O_o
867606;1412944957;RagnarDanneskjol;yea good times. punkman says he's making progress on a pyth version
867607;1412944959;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5640 @ 0.00074116 = 4.1801 BTC [-]
867608;1412947453;*;xanthyos
867609;1412948396;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Feb 2015 to drop under $80 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1052/ Odds: 76(Y):24(N) by coin, 74(Y):26(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.05 BTC. Current weight: 66,414.
867610;1412948453;asciilifeform;re: gentoo & ljr: i'd like to suggest a new patch to the latest bitcoind. if the day of the month is odd, format hdd.
867611;1412948478;asciilifeform;when read the news, had the idea that ljr was trying to accomplish something like the above.
867612;1412948498;asciilifeform;(put a bullet through a long-overdue zombie)
867613;1412950144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40614 @ 0.00074025 = 30.0645 BTC [-] {5}
867614;1412951486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38050 @ 0.00074172 = 28.2224 BTC [+]
867615;1412952569;wywialm;hi all
867616;1412953425;mike_c;I feel a little dirty. I'm getting more traffic from google now because I have a page for every bitbet. oops.
867617;1412954935;kakobrekla;gah mike same here!
867618;1412955356;thickasthieves;you can always be together at least
867619;1412955711;mike_c;if we were cool enough it would just be one infintiely scrolling page.
867620;1412955895;ben_vulpes; so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << deets?
867621;1412956606;thickasthieves;market's bleedin
867622;1412956610;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00074442 = 19.1316 BTC [+]
867623;1412956793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.71397168 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 236 satoshi per share
867624;1412956813;ben_vulpes;;;ticker
867625;1412956814;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 354.97, Best ask: 355.76, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 354.97, 24 hour volume: 35089.03268405, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 390.0, 24 hour vwap: 369.022564073
867626;1412956857;mike_c;he meant the play exchanges (nasdaq)
867627;1412956862;thickasthieves;meant wall st, btc will probly rebound soon
867628;1412956976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11149742 BTC to 15`474 shares, 7183 satoshi per share
867629;1412957281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 130 @ 0.01391002 = 1.8083 BTC [-]
867630;1412957474;ben_vulpes;i'm trying the taleb approach to noise reduction
867631;1412957477;thickasthieves;;;estimate
867632;1412957478;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 38036136893.6 based on data since last change | 34836558052.4 based on data for last three days
867633;1412957511;thickasthieves;youre gonna tweet out of phase noise all day?
867634;1412957530;ben_vulpes;haw
867635;1412957536;ben_vulpes;no, i'm just trying to not watch the markets.
867636;1412957543;ben_vulpes;"don't denominate the btc in usd, and vice versa"
867637;1412957560;thickasthieves;pretty thick nerdy joke though, tyvm
867638;1412957582;ben_vulpes;ya i was surprised ;)
867639;1412957603;thickasthieves;insultplement
867640;1412957647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24495 @ 0.00074172 = 18.1684 BTC [-]
867641;1412957703;*;ben_vulpes rolls eyes
867642;1412957776;thickasthieves;;;8ball will btc ever see $350 again?
867643;1412957777;gribble;The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
867644;1412957798;thickasthieves;pro ta
867645;1412957992;asciilifeform;afaik nobody actually cares how many pictures of ben franklin one can get for 1 btc. but if 1 btc buys, say, computer, or tractor, or half a year of food, etc.
867646;1412958120;thickasthieves;the curve would drop off at a point, right?
867647;1412958196;thickasthieves;i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world
867648;1412958352;thestringpuller;what is this luke-jr thing going on?
867649;1412958413;thickasthieves;the logs sum it up
867650;1412958661;thestringpuller;flipping back
867651;1412958745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00074122 = 10.6736 BTC [-] {2}
867652;1412959198;thestringpuller;ah not so bad.
867653;1412959206;thestringpuller;glad it was caught tho
867654;1412959346;penguirker;New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/10/guide-to-setting-up-a-remote-bitcoin-node-for-20-per-year/
867655;1412959420;pete_dushenski;so i riffed off pankkake's node tutorial and inserted a few more instructions
867656;1412959445;pete_dushenski;i also managed to sort out the errors i was encountering in debian.
867657;1412959448;pete_dushenski;such skillz!
867658;1412959456;thestringpuller;https://i.imgur.com/ZnxT1kG.jpg
867659;1412959477;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32872 @ 0.00073946 = 24.3075 BTC [-] {2}
867660;1412959494;pete_dushenski;there are now less than 7000 active nodes :(
867661;1412959520;The20YearIRCloud;What's luke-jr do?
867662;1412959525;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << preventing this was only $1200/mo indefinitely ;)
867663;1412959540;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski not even, different pentester.
867664;1412959555;pete_dushenski;o hm.
867665;1412959559;Apocalyptic; there are now less than 7000 active nodes :( // I don't know where you're getting your data from, but if it's solely based on https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/ it's wrong
867666;1412959559;assbot;Global Bitcoin nodes distribution - Bitnodes
867667;1412959563;asciilifeform;so back to telegraph ?
867668;1412959570;Apocalyptic;as these only publish publicly reachable nodes
867669;1412959572;asciilifeform;go hax telegraph.
867670;1412959582;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski you really should know better than taking bitcoin "foundation" shit at face value yo.
867671;1412959612;pete_dushenski;Apocalyptic: aic
867672;1412959621;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: how did i do that?
867673;1412959645;*;asciilifeform read the published script, sees nothing to verify installation of particular known-hygienic classical ver. of bitcoind
867674;1412959678;mircea_popescu;https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/static/img/bitcoin-foundation.png
867675;1412959698;mircea_popescu;right under "this project is powered by"
867676;1412959706;pete_dushenski;asciilifeform: this i know! any suggestions for how to remedy this??
867677;1412959725;mircea_popescu;nothing good short of running some decent nodes
867678;1412959748;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: and where might i find the scripts for this?
867679;1412959765;mircea_popescu;for running a node you mean ?
867680;1412959766;pete_dushenski;0.9.3 is obviously dirt but how would one go about installing 0.6.x on a vps?
867681;1412959774;pete_dushenski;ya
867682;1412959807;mircea_popescu;well you get the code off the repository and compile it
867683;1412959813;mircea_popescu;or if you trust anyone, you get a binary from them
867684;1412959815;pete_dushenski;the instructions in my "guide" definitely need improvement. currently point people towards latest bitcoind
867685;1412959822;pete_dushenski;as per pankkake's script
867686;1412959855;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: right.
867687;1412959873;mircea_popescu;generally the people involved in bitcoin to this level kinda have the history, and a complete file of historical versions and so on.
867688;1412959892;mircea_popescu;i guess it's an interesting question, "what's the new guy to do". bunch of playing catchup it seems
867689;1412959911;thestringpuller;how did deedbot get hacked?
867690;1412959918;asciilifeform;n00b, as in any serious business, must apprentice to another.
867691;1412959929;*;pete_dushenski now accepting offers for binary of bitcoind 0.6.x for contravex guide.
867692;1412959932;asciilifeform;or make good friends with the nuts and bolts alone, for ages.
867693;1412959986;mircea_popescu;but actually his is a legitimate request. i guess im adding this to the "wanted maintainer for eulora binaries" thing : wanted maintainer for bitcoin binaries.
867694;1412959998;mircea_popescu;anyone want to do a bunch of compiling and sign stuff ?
867695;1412960001;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: ketchup is fine. just have to have a little direction :)
867696;1412960041;pete_dushenski;danielpbarron or maybe bingoboingo?
867697;1412960059;asciilifeform;did somebody once put up a bounty for ms-dos build of bitcoind ('slip/ppp' over rs232 for netpipe, presumably) ? or did i dream this
867698;1412960103;mircea_popescu;;;later tell pankkake hey listen, how much would you want to compile and sign a bunch of code ? specifically eulora codebase and proper bitcoind (.6-.7 versions) ? gentoo and whatever else you can stomach.
867699;1412960103;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867700;1412960117;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if they did i don't recall it
867701;1412960135;asciilifeform;must have been dream.
867702;1412960202;mircea_popescu;tbh the msdos stack bug carnival + bitcoin bug carnival would be one sad hell.
867703;1412960393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 1.75950926 BTC to 29`438 shares, 5977 satoshi per share
867704;1412960395;pete_dushenski;following footnote added to "the node guide": Disclaimer! This Guide sets up the latest version of bitcoind, which is obviously a piece of fucking Bitcoin Fundation shit on a stick. This Guide will be updated with instructions on setting up bitcoind 0.6-0.7 asap.
867705;1412960526;bounce;dos can talk ethernet, see "crynwr" packet drivers for one.
867706;1412960560;mircea_popescu;bounce does it talk internet well tho ?
867707;1412960692;thestringpuller;;;seen nubbins`
867708;1412960692;gribble;nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: ;o
867709;1412960722;bounce;noooo, not really. it's dos.
867710;1412960825;mircea_popescu;kinda my point. bitcoind makes a bunch of assumptions about what it can do to the internet
867711;1412960836;asciilifeform;dos can talk ethernet << you want something as hardware nonspecific as possible.
867712;1412960838;asciilifeform;hence rs232.
867713;1412960839;mircea_popescu;wasn't exactly "designed from the ground up with portability in mind"
867714;1412960859;thestringpuller;bitcoin is rather portable tho
867715;1412960876;thestringpuller;as opposed to say a video game...
867716;1412960888;mircea_popescu;a qt based video game ? no.
867717;1412960901;asciilifeform;if seriously considering this, note that you will need a number of nontrivial bolt-ons - ability to mount >2gb file system, for one thing
867718;1412960921;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what sonny, you're too good for volume swaps ?
867719;1412960934;mircea_popescu;INSERT NEXT DISK AND PRESS OK
867720;1412960935;asciilifeform;(easiest solution: forget file system in the 1st place, just use raw block device. and then you don't even need msdos for anything.)
867721;1412961016;mircea_popescu;you do, yes, inasmuch as afaik it's compiled on 16 bit with a bunch of strange as what's maxint. won't even be able to reference half the arrays becayse they smash various stacks
867722;1412961031;asciilifeform;communicate with net through slip, via one serial line; accept commands & return output through another; deal with key material through a third.
867723;1412961057;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: who said anything about 16bit. dos4gw!
867724;1412961078;mircea_popescu;well if that's how you're going to go about it, how about running deathtrack in an emulator while linux handles bitcoin and call it a msdos bitcoind ?
867725;1412961088;mircea_popescu;but dos4gw is NOT ms-dos is it.
867726;1412961088;asciilifeform;lol
867727;1412961097;asciilifeform;hence idea, just dispense with the msdos
867728;1412961104;asciilifeform;and run on metal.
867729;1412961111;mircea_popescu;"my solution for fixing this guy's liver is to dispense with the guy"
867730;1412961129;asciilifeform;they shoot horses don't they (tm)
867731;1412961132;mircea_popescu;"the liver is fine, it's all that other shit sround it"
867732;1412961209;bounce;"something as hardware nonspecific as possible" meaning the shittiest and slowest option you can think of is a bit of a non-argument really.
867733;1412961215;asciilifeform;obligatory:
867734;1412961216;asciilifeform;http://www.returninfinity.com/pure64.html
867735;1412961216;assbot;Return Infinity - Pure64
867736;1412961233;mircea_popescu;bounce i think stan's a bit of a masochist rly.
867737;1412961240;asciilifeform;(i have my own very similar widget, that i've used for 'number crunching' tasks where an os just wastes cycles)
867738;1412961261;bounce;you'd need a tcp/ip stack linked to your program meaning that as soon as it quits the box is off the 'net, but whatever it's configured to use it'll use.
867739;1412961300;asciilifeform;people act as if tcp/ip were a moon rocket
867740;1412961309;asciilifeform;that no one man could ever hope to repeat with own hands.
867741;1412961333;mircea_popescu;but it is. and you can repeat with own hands, as a model
867742;1412961336;mircea_popescu;not as an actual moon rocket.
867743;1412961370;bounce;oh, you can implement a tcp/ip stack, apparently not too much work. making it work well, especially tcp, is going to be a bit more work though.
867744;1412961388;mircea_popescu;making it take off and become what EVERYONE uses is going to be a lot more work than that.
867745;1412961391;bounce;no idea how many man-hours or how it compares to, say, implementing a new compiler for some nicely convoluted language.
867746;1412961399;mircea_popescu;lisp never managed, for instance. neither did python. etc.
867747;1412961405;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, a shame the website thought it would be a good idea to use javascript popups as links
867748;1412961419;asciilifeform;lol i never see popups
867749;1412961424;Apocalyptic;neither do I
867750;1412961448;Apocalyptic;I just see links like "javascript:popCentered('pure64-manual.html',%20'900',%20'450',%20'manual');" and makes me sad
867751;1412961449;mircea_popescu;bounce not nearly as hard as a compiler, if you mean a tight optimizing compiler. otherwise, rms has been writing compilers in a day and a half on emacs.
867752;1412961451;asciilifeform;for all i know, it formats your hdd if you're running win98
867753;1412961452;mircea_popescu;they suck, but hey.
867754;1412961452;asciilifeform;or the like.
867755;1412961495;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic the notion of javascript:pop makes me sad.
867756;1412961514;mircea_popescu;did they implement javascript:sendushatemail(); ?
867757;1412961562;asciilifeform;anyway the link is because that fellow's site is the only place where you find everything you need to initialize an x86-64 all in one place.
867758;1412961583;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: lol i read "send-dush-hate-mail"
867759;1412961601;mircea_popescu;ate mail lol
867760;1412961624;asciilifeform;last version i read, disk i/o was implemented via 'pio' vs dma, so not optimal. but ought to suffice for just about any practical use.
867761;1412961625;pete_dushenski;with cheez.
867762;1412961653;asciilifeform;'send u shate mail'
867763;1412961681;asciilifeform;('shate' - past tense of 'shit' in world where shitting and eating are closely linked semantically more so than for us? as in 'ate')
867764;1412961746;mircea_popescu;in english it's actually shit shat shat
867765;1412961754;asciilifeform;aye
867766;1412961767;asciilifeform;english loses.
867767;1412961769;mircea_popescu;eat ate ate is reasonably related.
867768;1412961877;pete_dushenski;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/09/we_have_more_to_learn_says_scientist_antarctic_sea_ice_at_all_time_record/
867769;1412961878;assbot;Antarctic ice at ALL TIME RECORD HIGH: We have more to learn, says boffin The Register
867770;1412961894;pete_dushenski;those poor, cute penguins!
867771;1412961974;The20YearIRCloud;RentalStarter dividend announced - 0.00003100 per share
867772;1412962028;mircea_popescu;pete_dushenski oh, that's how you say "we fucked up royally and lost any possible shred of crediblity" in government-scientistalese now ? "we have more to learn" ?
867773;1412962042;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: traditionally it's 'more studies needed'
867774;1412962043;mircea_popescu;this, incidentally, is why it's unwise for people aspiring to science to get involved in politics.
867775;1412962044;asciilifeform;(in usa)
867776;1412962061;mircea_popescu;if you support policy with your "findings" you ruin your career once those findings turn out to be not truth, but mere science.
867777;1412962119;mircea_popescu;because no, no study produced by ANY PERSON who ever produced a "global warming" piece of "research" can ever be used for any scientific purpose whatsoever.
867778;1412962123;mircea_popescu;they're dead, for that profession.
867779;1412962127;bounce;more of a problem with politics' unhealthy relationship with science-as-convenient-truth than a problem in science. though science has its share of problems.
867780;1412962145;mircea_popescu;bounce not a problem of science, of course, but a problem of scientists, actual and aspiring.
867781;1412962164;asciilifeform;if only it were just that one field, that was lysenkoized.
867782;1412962174;mircea_popescu;for instance, about 98% of english speaking people involved in earth studies just rendered themselves
867783;1412962187;asciilifeform;!up devthedev
867784;1412962192;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform matters not. the lord doesn't aim to kill sin, merely as many sinners as can get hands on.
867785;1412962222;devthedev;You're right mircea_popescu
867786;1412962227;mircea_popescu;why ty.
867787;1412962285;mircea_popescu;!up disident
867788;1412962289;mircea_popescu;get in the wot will you.
867789;1412962340;asciilifeform;http://www.vaikan.com/man-vs-machine << mega-lol. chicom lifted the ancient turd.
867790;1412962345;assbot; | IT
867791;1412962452;pete_dushenski;http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/10/09/we_have_more_to_learn_says_scientist_antarctic_sea_ice_at_all_time_record/#c_2323490
867792;1412962453;assbot;Antarctic ice at ALL TIME RECORD HIGH: We have more to learn, says boffin The Register Forums
867793;1412962493;pete_dushenski;"The Earth hasn't warmed for > 18 years and counting. CO2 meanwhile continues to increase. Ergo. No connection between CO2 and global temperature. CAGW is false."
867794;1412962513;devthedev;Yeah, I'm not pro climate change
867795;1412962525;mircea_popescu;am i the only one who is amused by the strict similarity between the "o we know how climate works ; listen to us to fix what's broken with earth's industry" of these muppets and the "o, we know how hardware will work in the future ; listen ot us to fix what's broken with bitcoin" of the BF sponsored muppets ?
867796;1412962527;thestringpuller;http://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/2ismvu/a_moment_of_silence_please/cl5cedf
867797;1412962528;assbot;truthermn2 comments on A moment of silence please...
867798;1412962548;mircea_popescu;it seems the exact same sort of entirely broken, pseudoscientific, narcissistic gung-ho idiocy
867799;1412962568;bounce;the google translation contains a typical english grammar error (it's instead of its). how chinesely interesting.
867800;1412962646;mike_c;;;seen diana_coman
867801;1412962646;gribble;diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader
867802;1412962657;devthedev;Bitcoin.org - Website contains prohibited File Sharing content.
867803;1412962668;mircea_popescu;lolwut ?!
867804;1412962686;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: it's exactly that parallel: both teams of tards belong to a religion sans eglise
867805;1412962704;mircea_popescu;then zeke is all "o, not possible to be stooges". duh. what else are they ?
867806;1412962716;devthedev;mircea_popescu: It's on the school's blacklist.
867807;1412962728;mircea_popescu;convenient idiots ? tyvm, it's exactly anderpopolous' line. "i'm not really shilling, i'm just stupid. buy my shit!"
867808;1412962762;thestringpuller;I can't write software so I wrote a book!
867809;1412962771;asciilifeform;as i understand, a genuine 'useful idiot' by definition has to act unwittingly
867810;1412962775;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, like Karpeles and the like
867811;1412962797;asciilifeform;otherwise he's just 'useful' (while possibly also, 'idiot')
867812;1412962809;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's such bs. you know how the soviets worked, right ? all the scum reporting to the nkvd "had to", right ?
867813;1412962815;mircea_popescu;they weren't really aware what it is they're doing, right ?
867814;1412962820;asciilifeform;lol
867815;1412962826;asciilifeform;those aren't 'useful idiots' thought
867816;1412962829;mircea_popescu;half of leningrad died in one night because a bunch of people "weren't really doing" what they were doing.
867817;1412962830;asciilifeform;those are 'useful'
867818;1412962832;mircea_popescu;laissez svp.
867819;1412962873;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2014#581041
867820;1412962875;assbot;Logged on 25-03-2014 20:41:17; asciilifeform: Officially, all Soviet representatives regard these parasites with touching feelings of friendship, but privately they call them 'shit-eaters' ('govnoed'). It is difficult to say where this expression originated, but it is truly the only name they deserve. The use of this word has become so firmly entrenched in Soviet embassies that it is impossible to imagine any other name for these people. A conver
867821;1412962893;mircea_popescu;the female ability to reclassify rape as consensual and consensual as rape and to negotiate her own presence in the circumstances of her being does exactly jack shit for any discussion of reality.
867822;1412962925;mircea_popescu;which is why business has the concept of "knew or should have known". cuz it makes exactly no difference whether he "actually" knew.
867823;1412962949;asciilifeform;for purposes of chumpatronic engineering, it does indeed matter whether the chump needs a leash, coaxing, or mere suggestion to jump into the hopper.
867824;1412962970;mircea_popescu;these aren't distinguishable in the field. the nominal distinction follows mood or at best tradition.
867825;1412962977;mircea_popescu;objective difference there isn't.
867826;1412963012;asciilifeform;makes a difference what part of his hindbrain you pwned to get him to walk the plank
867827;1412963019;asciilifeform;e.g., lust, sloth, avarice
867828;1412963042;pete_dushenski;https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases << 0.6-0.7 zip and tar files are here, just unsure how to modify pankkake's node.sh script with them…
867829;1412963043;assbot;Releases bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub
867830;1412963075;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform these are also not pure categories in nature. their distinction follows tradition
867831;1412963081;asciilifeform;sure.
867832;1412963097;asciilifeform;but engineer must live with brute abstractions at times.
867833;1412963107;mircea_popescu;no argument, but let's not forget they aren't in the world.
867834;1412963125;asciilifeform;'map is not territory, but the territory does not fit in your glove compartment.'
867835;1412963133;mircea_popescu;quite.
867836;1412963229;thestringpuller;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iud0a/bitcoin_history_the_bearwhale_of_2012/
867837;1412963230;assbot;Bitcoin history: The BearWhale of 2012 : Bitcoin
867838;1412963310;asciilifeform;!s bot rape
867839;1412963310;assbot;7 results for 'bot rape' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bot+rape
867840;1412963312;asciilifeform;^ obligatory
867841;1412963443;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00074021 = 5.5886 BTC [+]
867842;1412963566;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15914 @ 0.00073941 = 11.767 BTC [-] {2}
867843;1412963635;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/10/ebola-and-five-stages-of-collapse.html << phun
867844;1412963635;assbot;ClubOrlov: Ebola and the Five Stages of Collapse
867845;1412963695;mircea_popescu;the problem with drinking the coolaid and starting to perceive yourself as "of a field" is that you end up with this obligatory slag.
867846;1412963703;mircea_popescu;"o, x is in the news , i gotta write about it then1"
867847;1412963715;mircea_popescu;soon enough all the forced writing kills your spark and then you're dead.
867848;1412963807;thestringpuller;;;calc 2000000 / 11
867849;1412963808;gribble;181818.181818
867850;1412963811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00073931 = 18.4828 BTC [-] {4}
867851;1412963863;pete_dushenski;mircea_popescu: yup, no spark, no life.
867852;1412963889;pete_dushenski;and with that, ima check y'all later!
867853;1412963912;mircea_popescu;it's one thing doing news pieces because that's the news. but people writing blogs aren't doing newspieces, they're doing editorial, and the news burnout is a century old, well known and documented mode of failure for editors.
867854;1412963959;bounce;feeding random bits to that vaikan thingy makes me lose 2:1. seems that giving the thing a pass option gives it an unfair advantage.
867855;1412963964;thestringpuller;;;ticker
867856;1412963965;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.03, Best ask: 357.19, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 356.03, 24 hour volume: 31630.34152670, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 380.94, 24 hour vwap: 364.911597788
867857;1412964030;*;asciilifeform never met an apocalyptic hypothetical megadeath that herr orlov doesn't love.
867858;1412964238;thickasthieves;https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/520555627715002368
867859;1412964239;assbot;Important step towards separating our bitcoin biz from /SecondMarket. The name.Introducing...Digital Currency Group http://t.co/s4Hld235bP
867860;1412964258;thickasthieves;"Invest. Build. Grow."
867861;1412964276;thickasthieves;Digital Currency Group
867862;1412964309;mike_c;the name is hardly enough barry. where's the logo?
867863;1412964423;bounce;anthropomorphic sugarcubes! with chainsaws!
867864;1412964432;bounce;oh wait, that's for something else. n'mind.
867865;1412964617;thickasthieves;http://www.trademarkia.com/digital-currency-group-86316071.html he went with mpex style logo
867866;1412964618;assbot;DIGITAL CURRENCY GROUP - Reviews & Brand Information - SECONDMARKET HOLDINGS, INC. New York, NY - Serial Number: 86316071
867867;1412964759;mircea_popescu;lmao
867868;1412964999;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: (put a bullet through a long-overdue zombie) << zombie being what, people running gentoo through an emulator on windows ?
867869;1412965002;mircea_popescu;!up princessnell
867870;1412965007;mircea_popescu;heh wrong one
867871;1412965010;mircea_popescu;!up princessnell_
867872;1412965025;princessnell_;ty
867873;1412965036;princessnell_;i have a transcript of the andreas testimony
867874;1412965045;mircea_popescu;ben_vulpes: so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << deets? << someone put a random deed up there, i linked it above the comment.
867875;1412965059;mircea_popescu;princessnell_ the one he published or the one he acutally gave ?
867876;1412965080;princessnell_;the whole thing: his opening statements and Q&A
867877;1412965106;mircea_popescu;cool. summarize, comment and submit.
867878;1412965125;mircea_popescu;add the full minutes as an add-on file to be linked from your article for the perennially curious
867879;1412965133;mike_c;i linked it above the comment. << that link 404'd for me.
867880;1412965214;mircea_popescu;mike_c well i guess it got deleted meanwhile. it just said "owned like a pony" or something
867881;1412965260;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world <<< this is actually one of the largest, most interesting questions in bitcoin finance.
867882;1412965278;mircea_popescu;it doesn't have a good answer. on one hand, fiat currency can never meet the total asset value, for very well understood reasons.
867883;1412965309;mircea_popescu;superficially, if one thinks btc is a drop-in replacement for fiat (which it isn't, just like car isn't exactly a drop in replacement for tricycle) one'd expect the same to hold
867884;1412965330;mircea_popescu;however, because bitcoin will be hoarded in general and transacted rarely, it is quite possible for there to appear a new macroeconomics equation :
867885;1412965334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60598 @ 0.00073906 = 44.7856 BTC [-] {2}
867886;1412965344;mircea_popescu;(hoarded btc) + traded btc = traded property + (hoarded property)
867887;1412965361;mircea_popescu;this is perhaps going to be the one thing economists of the future will be trying to keep in balance.
867888;1412965418;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/mma-fighter-live-tweets-police-standoff-while-holed-up-1644489745
867889;1412965418;assbot;MMA Fighter Live-Tweets Police Standoff While Holed Up In House
867890;1412965497;mircea_popescu;;;later tell wywialm there's one for you : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867881
867891;1412965498;assbot;Logged on 10-10-2014 18:21:00; mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world <<< this is actually one of the largest, most interesting questions in bitcoin finance.
867892;1412965498;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867893;1412965570;bounce;``Patrick Murck of the Bitcoin Foundation stated that "the people that do this stuff should burn in hell" and they are working to stop Bitcoin from being used for illicit activity.'' -- clowns be clownin'
867894;1412965596;mircea_popescu;lol what's he going to say.
867895;1412965619;mircea_popescu;"fuck you and get used to making the laws you can enforce as opposed to making the laws your delusions require" ?
867896;1412965622;mircea_popescu;not his line.
867897;1412965638;bounce;"not condone" yadda yadda would've been plenty
867898;1412965667;mircea_popescu;amusingly, bitcoin is working fro mstopping murck &co's illicit activities.
867899;1412965685;mircea_popescu;not particularly curious as to how that confrontation's gonna end out. seen too many tards try to spit up.
867900;1412965760;bounce;oh it's not really a surprise, but his is supposedly a PR club, not a policing club. not smart to get mired in that swamp.
867901;1412965788;mircea_popescu;since when did the us agents do the smart thing ?
867902;1412965803;mircea_popescu;they've already won the war on drugs, the war on poverty and the war on terrorism.
867903;1412965807;mircea_popescu;fourth's a charm.
867904;1412965819;bounce;oh yes ticker tape parades any day now
867905;1412965843;mircea_popescu;o which reminds me, did the doom zerohedge announced as a given manifest in the fx markets yet ?
867906;1412965886;mircea_popescu;that site's so funny, it's been declaring the world ends tomorrow so convincingly and for so long by now its only audience are people who actually factually believe the world ends tomorrow, each and every day. so there's this palpable atmosphere of
867907;1412965893;mircea_popescu;"nigga please, the world ? it's so ended already!"
867908;1412966060;mats_cd03;http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17490282/why-is-this-commit-that-sets-the-rsa-public-exponent-to-1-problematic
867909;1412966061;assbot;security - Why is this commit that sets the RSA public exponent to 1 problematic? - Stack Overflow
867910;1412966106;mats_cd03;interesting to me, since i know about zero things re: rsa.
867911;1412966386;bounce;it's been ages but an exponent of one isn't a great idea, no. they shipped with that? oops. (could see it as another reason why you don't implement crypto yourself; you use a well-vetted library, as in written by cryptographers and then read by other cryptographers)
867912;1412966411;mircea_popescu;bounce except this would meet the definition of "well vetted" as commonly deployed.
867913;1412966452;mircea_popescu;you are in fact better off using homebrew than "well vetted", inasmuch as the western world is in denial about exactly what "well vetted" means as well as what "working towards stopping use for illicit activity" means
867914;1412966484;thestringpuller;remember that point you brought up about someone reading a newspaper article about a field they are well versed in. That person says, "Wow holes everywhere" etc. Then he moves to article from field he is less familiar with and just agrees with it?
867915;1412966491;thestringpuller;I think this was you mircea_popescu no?
867916;1412966492;mircea_popescu;so no, i'd trust anything nist/ieee/etc certified a lot less than i'd trust random shit.
867917;1412966509;mats_cd03;its all relative, i suppose.
867918;1412966515;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller possibly i brought it up here, but otherwise it's old scool.
867919;1412966530;thestringpuller;so if this is the case how is the n00b to even decide?
867920;1412966542;mircea_popescu;mats_cd03 you know how if you install wordpress you're supposed to change the pre-generated salt to something ?
867921;1412966548;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/second-market-spins-off-digital-currency-group/
867922;1412966556;mircea_popescu;in cryptography, every constant's a salt. you're well advised to change ALL constants
867923;1412966557;mats_cd03;i don't know anything about the web
867924;1412966565;mircea_popescu;if the code stops working you shouldn't have been using it in the first place
867925;1412966573;mircea_popescu;mp best practices of crypto, volume I (r)
867926;1412966644;mats_cd03;i think i might see schneier again sometime in the near future
867927;1412966649;mats_cd03;have any questions you want answered?
867928;1412966664;mircea_popescu;what/how much they paid him, but he won't answer that one.
867929;1412966667;mats_cd03;besides, you know, 'whats your handler's name'
867930;1412966671;mats_cd03;oh, you beat me to it.
867931;1412966676;rithm;what's the meaning of life other than 42?
867932;1412966695;mircea_popescu;his handler's name is not as hard to infer.
867933;1412966709;mircea_popescu;there's not that many handlers, they drive cars, they have wives, it's a solved problem.
867934;1412966712;thestringpuller;in the future we will have nanomachines that prevent us from physically disclosing our handler. that will be a scary time.
867935;1412966848;bounce;uhm. looks like I forgot to take notes last time I had beef with some of what he was saying and forgot to keep up in the meantime. oh well.
867936;1412966871;chetty; in the future we will have nanomachines that prevent us from physically disclosing our handler. that will be a scary time.//pls tell me at least a day ahead of this
867937;1412966887;mircea_popescu;bounce this is why keeping a blog is so important
867938;1412966894;mircea_popescu;i'd lose 90% of my shit if i didn't write it down
867939;1412966913;bounce;oh I have my notes, just didn't jot that one down
867940;1412967135;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: like that time the eulora gameplay post was almsot lost forever?
867941;1412967140;thestringpuller;;)
867942;1412967177;mircea_popescu;yeah srsly.
867943;1412967388;mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/matoma-official/eminem-business-matoma-remix
867944;1412967388;assbot;SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
867945;1412967883;mats_cd03;from an old issue, titled 'once upon a free()' http://phrack.org/issues/57/9.html
867946;1412967884;assbot;.:: Phrack Magazine ::.
867947;1412968699;BingoBoingo;;;later tell pete_dushenski You know there's another guide. Paid for rather than wrote this one. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/02/building-bitcoin-0-7-2-on-openbsd/
867948;1412968699;assbot;Building Bitcoin 0.7.2 on OpenBSD | Bingo Blog
867949;1412968699;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867950;1412968836;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/poor-punctuation-leads-to-windows-shell-vulnerability/
867951;1412968837;assbot;Poor punctuation leads to Windows shell vulnerability | Ars Technica
867952;1412969350;bounce;those wily belgians trying to make a name for themselves in time-honoured fashion: "sound scary? read on!"
867953;1412969543;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0007402 = 9.2525 BTC [+]
867954;1412969604;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17064 @ 0.00074021 = 12.6309 BTC [+]
867955;1412969685;rithm;oh yeah i read about ^ earlier
867956;1412970458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0007402 = 12.5094 BTC [-]
867957;1412970702;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/10/hospitalist-2/
867958;1412970703;assbot;Hospitalist Abusing Copy and Paste...In Paper Charts - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
867959;1412970810;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/10/pet-therapy/ << Adults are bigger and furrier than kids, so it was simple, explained Westchester Medical Center CEO James Piccadilly. Bears are bigger and furrier than dogs.
867960;1412970811;assbot;Hospital Pilots Pet Therapy with Black Bears, Grizzlies - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
867961;1412971129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.0007402 = 4.9964 BTC [-]
867962;1412971167;devthedev;Digital Currency Group, interesting.
867963;1412971225;mike_c;it's like secondmarket, but different.
867964;1412971248;mats_cd03;https://casetext.com/case/kennar-v-kelly-2 << heh. sued the IRS for RICO violations
867965;1412971288;mats_cd03;quite clever IMO, but no dice. sovereign immunity.
867966;1412973142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30820 @ 0.00074209 = 22.8712 BTC [+] {2}
867967;1412973336;The20YearIRCloud;Well, we closed on property #10 today
867968;1412973381;The20YearIRCloud;Once we're at 100% occupancy we'll be almost right at $10k/mo in revenues
867969;1412973407;mike_c;decent profit margins?
867970;1412973425;kakobrekla;great dividend roi
867971;1412973433;kakobrekla;!t h rent
867972;1412973434;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00458100 / 0.00472061 / 0.00489499 (9 shares, 0.04248546 BTC), 7D: 0.00400000 / 0.00424006 / 0.00529752 (1978 shares, 8.38684071 BTC), 30D: 0.00383331 / 0.00644294 / 0.00750000 (13985 shares, 90.10447998 BTC)
867973;1412973471;kakobrekla;seems to be stuck to 0.45 no matter what btc or you do or is it just me
867974;1412973487;kakobrekla;0.0045 even
867975;1412973514;The20YearIRCloud;70% mike_c
867976;1412973540;The20YearIRCloud;Although that's gonna go down as we lever, but as of property #10, our costs are a little under 30% of revenues
867977;1412973548;kakobrekla;(im just thinking re your idea of being a hedge)
867978;1412973551;mike_c;kakobrekla: yeah for last 5 months.
867979;1412973551;The20YearIRCloud;kakobrekla: you're right, and i've been buying about as much as I can
867980;1412973592;The20YearIRCloud;The property I just got is a smoking deal. $30k purchase, about $2k in rehab if that, will bring in $1050/mo rented with about $300/mo in costs (Taxes, insurance, repairs)
867981;1412973605;kakobrekla;id call fire department on smoking property
867982;1412973609;kakobrekla;quick
867983;1412973686;The20YearIRCloud;lol
867984;1412974136;cazalla;;;later tell princessnell just missed you, was sleeping
867985;1412974136;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867986;1412974253;devthedev;Good evening everyone
867987;1412974285;cazalla;morning
867988;1412974332;devthedev;Hey cazalla
867989;1412974896;*;danielpbarron used BingoBoingo's instructions to compile bitcoind 0.7.2 on OpenBSD 5.5
867990;1412974939;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well the ones I asked some Indian kid to do for money and then diginork beat him to the prize when he no-show'd
867991;1412975107;danielpbarron;i have instructions on compiling ssss-0.5 on OpenBSD 5.5 if anyone is interested
867992;1412975290;bounce;submit it as a port?
867993;1412975350;danielpbarron;;;rated gilgameshugga
867994;1412975351;gribble;You rated user gilgameshugga on Sat Jul 19 13:35:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: figured out how to compile ssss-0.5 on openBSD5.5 for a 0.1 BTC bounty http://danielpbarron.com/ssss/openBSD5.5.asc.txt.
867995;1412975529;mircea_popescu;;;later tell princessnell cazalla !
867996;1412975529;gribble;The operation succeeded.
867997;1412975551;cazalla;she sent an email so it's all good
867998;1412975566;mircea_popescu;a cool
867999;1412975705;mircea_popescu;<mats_cd03> quite clever IMO, but no dice. sovereign immunity. << exactly.
868000;1412975824;mircea_popescu;now if only someone made a site that wasn';t a retarded ball of javascript
868001;1412975832;mircea_popescu;what is with these people, seriously.
868002;1412975877;kakobrekla;who?
868003;1412975907;mircea_popescu;google has this "document" format that's basically just a bunch of spurious javascript
868004;1412975924;mircea_popescu;then everyone copied it. casetext.com in this exampole
868005;1412975950;mircea_popescu;but there's a bunch of them. the retarded crowd that does videos instead of articles tends to send links to them instead of plain text.
868006;1412976064;bounce;"REST" is all the rage these days, and is obviously a fine and good excuse to push off all the processing into the client (and thereby reinventing just about everything, badly), instead of, oh, having the server process all that or just serving up the content right away.
868007;1412976089;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/liberty-reserve-founder-arthur-budovsk-extradited/
868008;1412976129;mircea_popescu;fuck them with a used toilet brush
868009;1412976198;mircea_popescu;and fuck whoever came up with the soap-rest false dichotomy, too.
868010;1412976208;bounce;ah, of course it's extra-doubly-criminal if you are a /former/ american doing all that outside of the US
868011;1412976288;mircea_popescu;huh ?
868012;1412976325;bounce;``The founder of Liberty Reserve, a virtual currency used by cybercriminals around the world to launder proceeds of their illegal activity, was extradited from Spain and arrived in the United States this afternoon.'' -- so, uhm, why aren't they even investigating the current owners and propagators of that much more widely currency used by criminals, "cyber" and otherwise, world-wide?
868013;1412976354;mircea_popescu;because this guy passed his things off as dollars
868014;1412976369;mircea_popescu;something anyone with any sense could have told him will never float unless he also has an army.
868015;1412976381;bounce;did he? oh dear.
868016;1412976387;mircea_popescu;yeah, he did
868017;1412976410;mircea_popescu;and it was pretty derpy/insane to boot. i mean literally, going by shops, telling random people that hey, this is as much a dollar as that.
868018;1412976466;BingoBoingo;As far as I understand it Liberty Reserve was basically just Dollar Hawala, except derpier
868019;1412976501;mircea_popescu;well no, it was Bollar, like Bucci
868020;1412976512;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee/
868021;1412976559;mircea_popescu;cazalla dude this chick can write. let it not be said all qntra articles are short ever again lol
868022;1412976587;cazalla;i know eh
868023;1412976591;bounce;though even if he'd shouted high and low it was something else entirely that just happened to carry the exact same unit value as a us dollar they'd still hang him on the nearest tree of accusations. they're like that. any old excuse will do.
868024;1412976593;mircea_popescu;"SENATOR GERSTEIN (1:50:40) Mr. Antonopolous, your reputation preceded you prior to your arrival. You may recall that in my introductory remarks, I did not introduce you as a Bitcoin guru, but as THE Bitcoin guru. I think that I could speak on behalf of all of the members of the committee in saying that you have more than lived up to that reputation. We greatly appreciate your presentation today. Thank you very much, t
868025;1412976593;mircea_popescu;his meeting is concluded."
868026;1412976597;mircea_popescu;this should be in the record.
868027;1412976614;mircea_popescu;gerstein addressing known shill, scammer and general clueless derp : "you're just like us! we love you here!"
868028;1412976627;bounce;birds of a feather
868029;1412976634;mircea_popescu;bounce looky, counterfactuals aren't factuals.
868030;1412976659;mircea_popescu;or in romanian, "daca si cu parca se plimbau cu-o barca. daca daca nu era, parca parca se-neca".
868031;1412976683;mircea_popescu;if and seems like were rowing in a boat. if if weren't there, seems like seems like'd have drowned.
868032;1412976756;cazalla;some quantcast stats are up https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
868033;1412976756;assbot;Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast
868034;1412976844;mircea_popescu;not bad.
868035;1412976856;BingoBoingo;Oh Quantcast and WP stats are pretty similar in the numbers
868036;1412976939;mircea_popescu;940,806 US rank < straight in the top 1m hehe
868037;1412976983;mircea_popescu;ftr, coindesk is estimated around 20k ish daily.
868038;1412976989;mircea_popescu;ie, you're already 2-3%
868039;1412977087;BingoBoingo;https://www.quantcast.com/top-sites << Who could #7 be?
868040;1412977088;assbot;Quantcast - Top Ranking International Websites
868041;1412977896;BingoBoingo;http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/
868042;1412977896;assbot;Judge Rejects Defense That FBI Illegally Hacked Silk RoadOn a Technicality | WIRED
868043;1412977900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00073978 = 39.0234 BTC [-] {3}
868044;1412978156;thickasthieves;"Ulbricht hadn’t sufficiently demonstrated that the server belonged to him, and thus can’t claim that his privacy rights were violated by its search. "
868045;1412978166;thickasthieves;he hasnt admitted guilt, so he cant be innocent
868046;1412978169;thickasthieves;fuck me...
868047;1412978172;midnightmagic;14:30 <+mircea_popescu> gerstein addressing known shill, scammer and general clueless derp : "you're just like us! we love you here!" << thank you
868048;1412978415;kanzure;did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?
868049;1412978508;thickasthieves;he'd need to admit the server was his first
868050;1412978562;thickasthieves;it's a fucking joke
868051;1412978639;midnightmagic;it's an absurdity
868052;1412978691;midnightmagic;must the neighbour give testimoney that the police were trespassing to invalidate an apprehension? trespass is presumed, not proven.
868053;1412978698;BingoBoingo;The judge alledges he could have claimed ownership in a way that wouldn't be a confession, but which would have effectively made his taking the stand either have to end in a confession or perjury
868054;1412978735;thickasthieves;it's absurd
868055;1412978739;thickasthieves;i'm mad
868056;1412978763;midnightmagic;the form of an investigation is almost the entirety of whether justice is served
868057;1412979588;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the technicality known as "technically, i gotta eat, and these people are paying for it."
868058;1412979598;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3B3GWQV.txt )
868059;1412979598;BingoBoingo;!b 1
868060;1412979622;mircea_popescu;!up maximian
868061;1412979698;mats_cd03;;;nethash
868062;1412979699;gribble;261049969.639
868063;1412979715;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "BTC tops all time high before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1033/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.28503498 BTC. Current weight: 59,896.
868064;1412979865;BingoBoingo;mega lolz https://twitter.com/CoinFireBlog/status/520699230156226560
868065;1412979866;assbot;./koinify announced the addition of ./VinnyLingham to the advisory board and ./ofnumbers as a mentor: http://t.co/K4vpqjgrHX
868066;1412979935;mircea_popescu;The government posits two standards of behavior: one for private citizens, who must adhere to a strict standard of conduct construed by the government, read a final filing Tuesday. The other for the government, which, with its elastic ability to effect electronic intrusion, can deliberately, cavalierly, and unrepentantly transgress those same standards.
868067;1412979943;mircea_popescu;that part at least is worth taking away.
868068;1412979960;mircea_popescu;the very definition of a rogue state is "one which construes itself more powerful than the private citizen"
868069;1412980279;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you going to make that court document scan a text btw ?
868070;1412980289;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah
868071;1412980317;BingoBoingo;38 pages so I'll txt it a bit different. .txt file to download
868072;1412980320;mircea_popescu;textifying all the pdfs/scans idiots dump online, as well as textifying audio/video are very legitimates avenues for qntra to add value
868073;1412980332;mircea_popescu;automate as much of it as possible and then automate the remainder. twice.
868074;1412980343;mircea_popescu;got any good ocr and sound to text software atm ?
868075;1412980374;mircea_popescu;and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click.
868076;1412980389;mircea_popescu;not after a dld and a notepad or w/e they use.
868077;1412980412;mircea_popescu;besides, html.
868078;1412980485;mircea_popescu;!up Takeshi
868079;1412980487;mircea_popescu;okay.
868080;1412980515;mircea_popescu;what is wcn anyway ?
868081;1412980541;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/judge-forrest-rejects-illegal-search-defense-in-ulbricht-case/
868082;1412980707;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu> and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click. << Updated this one now to have both
868083;1412980717;mircea_popescu;worx
868084;1412980726;BingoBoingo; got any good ocr and sound to text software atm ? << Dunno of any yet
868085;1412980731;mircea_popescu;but im serious about the ocr and the text to speech. it can do the bulk of the work.
868086;1412980740;mircea_popescu;gives you a significant advantage.
868087;1412980749;mircea_popescu;iirc asciilifeform mentioned some pdf textualizer in the logs ?
868088;1412980787;BingoBoingo;Oh, I found a pdf textualizer, but I dunno if it handles pdfs that are just photographs of text yet
868089;1412980821;mircea_popescu;you seriously should spend a week or w/e it takes trying out ocrs and voice recognition tools and whatnot, because going forward this will remain an issue
868090;1412980848;BingoBoingo;It's going on the agenda.
868091;1412980849;mircea_popescu;being able to take a turd and turn it into readable content within an hour or a day, and being able to so process gigabytes of crud a month is, by itself, more barrier to entry than all the collective "press" has
868092;1412980856;mircea_popescu;and i don't mean coindeks. i mean wired
868093;1412980908;mircea_popescu;and if you get it to where you have to fix a letter per ten words you're way way ahead of someone who has to press pause every five seconds
868094;1412980950;mircea_popescu;not that anyone actually even exists in the cloud of vaporized shit comprising the kids-of-www that even has the drive or the intellectual werewithal to take down an hour of speech or an acre of blackboard anyway.
868095;1412980967;mircea_popescu;you'd think everyone's got a college degree means they are god damned good at exactly that. but...
868096;1412981423;BingoBoingo;Yeah, so far most of the deturdified text has been low hanging fruit, but automating the hard stuff is going to be nice sauce
868097;1412981557;mircea_popescu;definitely.
868098;1412981585;mircea_popescu;and i mean, i can tell anjie didn't sleep to do that one, which is exactly what she should have done, but once.
868099;1412981589;cazalla;have not finished reading logs but the thing i do not like about the txt version is that it's difficult to read unless it's formatted correctly
868100;1412981591;mircea_popescu;you can't have people do this by hand forever.
868101;1412981604;cazalla;i don't see the value in just copying to a post without making it readable
868102;1412981615;mircea_popescu;cazalla the point being that it's easier to format/spellcheck a predeturdified turd than to write from scratch
868103;1412981696;cazalla;better to link to a txt than include it in post than imo
868104;1412981699;bounce;formatting html or actual text? latter case, "fmt" or "par" (not par2, entirely different beast) might help
868105;1412981733;mircea_popescu;fmt is a good idea yeah
868106;1412981737;mircea_popescu;cazalla why ?
868107;1412981865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00073834 = 4.2085 BTC [-]
868108;1412981898;Takeshi;https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork WCN is a youtube channel .
868109;1412981898;assbot;World Crypto Network - YouTube
868110;1412981918;mircea_popescu;aha cool.
868111;1412981927;mircea_popescu;ok, so go ahead.
868112;1412982121;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu your dead man is live on that chan
868113;1412982128;kakobrekla;hehe
868114;1412982146;mircea_popescu;wait, wut ?
868115;1412982206;kakobrekla;AA
868116;1412982216;kakobrekla;currently live on WCN
868117;1412982220;mircea_popescu;lol cool
868118;1412982222;BingoBoingo;OMG Zombies!
868119;1412982252;mthreat;mircea_popescu: $200 and $500 peso notes coming? http://www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=762332
868120;1412982255;assbot;Esbozos de billetes de $ 200 y $ 500 - Ambito.com
868121;1412982265;mthreat;it's about time, I guess. $100 pesos is worth 7 dollars
868122;1412982269;mircea_popescu;they're behind the times, should be 1k 2k and 5k
868123;1412982277;mircea_popescu;more like 6.
868124;1412982287;mthreat;i'm a week behind then ;)
868125;1412982315;mircea_popescu;;;rated cazalla
868126;1412982315;gribble;You rated user cazalla on Wed Apr 16 22:29:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
868127;1412982332;mircea_popescu;;;rate cazalla 2 qntra.net chief editor.
868128;1412982333;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 1 to 2.
868129;1412982466;mthreat;;;rate mircea_popescu 3 Lunch & drinks in Buenos Aires
868130;1412982467;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
868131;1412982471;mthreat;bah
868132;1412982477;mircea_popescu;;;rated mthreat
868133;1412982477;gribble;You rated user mthreat on Sat Jun 21 05:42:17 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Awesome search ; coffee.
868134;1412982527;mthreat;;;rate mircea_popescu 3 Lunch & drinks in Buenos Aires
868135;1412982528;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
868136;1412982535;mthreat;finally I rated someone
868137;1412982547;mircea_popescu;lol wd.
868138;1412982562;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ^
868139;1412982576;kakobrekla;+2 boohoo
868140;1412982644;mircea_popescu;what are you at yet anyway, 90something ?
868141;1412982657;kakobrekla;dunno
868142;1412982902;BingoBoingo;;;getratings kakobrekla
868143;1412982902;gribble;Error: "getratings" is not a valid command.
868144;1412983063;bounce;it's the obvious and easily typed "ratingsystem getrating"
868145;1412983077;*;bounce would demonstrate but gribble has been forgetful again
868146;1412983216;thestringpuller;;;gettrust nanotube mtgox
868147;1412983217;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mtgox: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mtgox | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mtgox | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:39 2010
868148;1412983399;BingoBoingo;;;ratingsystem getrating kakobrekla
868149;1412983399;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 148, from 77 total ratings. Received ratings: 77 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 78 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla
868150;1412983445;BingoBoingo;Oic
868151;1412983448;thestringpuller;nice find
868152;1412983458;kakobrekla;;;getrating kakobrekla
868153;1412983459;gribble;Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
868154;1412983465;kakobrekla;heh
868155;1412983733;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> you can't have people do this by hand forever. << that might be the easiest solution actually. set up some amazon mechanical turk automation.
868156;1412983743;thestringpuller;!ticker h am1
868157;1412983744;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.13500000 / 0.13812501 / 0.14000001 (8 shares, 1.10500004 BTC), 7D: 0.10010000 / 0.13283625 / 0.19210002 (1410 shares, 187.29910975 BTC), 30D: 0.10000001 / 0.15529865 / 0.26900000 (5423 shares, 842.18456297 BTC)
868158;1412983773;mircea_popescu;mike_c i wouldn't trust random fiverr derp not to mess up the words
868159;1412983794;mircea_popescu;and seeing how the very purpose of this stuff is for people to be able to do deep searches for impredictable later interests, it'd be less than useful.
868160;1412983800;mike_c;but you've got steady work, can find reliable people
868161;1412983844;mircea_popescu;people are not for steady work. machines are for steady work.
868162;1412983848;mircea_popescu;people are for unsteady work.
868163;1412983869;mike_c;yes, but machines do a crappy job of voice/pdf -> text. maybe the turks are the ones who clean it up.
868164;1412983886;mircea_popescu;(it won't scale. if one day i want to do 1tb i can just throw more chickens at it, provided it runs on chickens)
868165;1412983897;mircea_popescu;do they still ?
868166;1412983903;mircea_popescu;i was hoping 20 years later it's fixed mostly.
868167;1412983920;mircea_popescu;how does ziri work or w/e was apple calling its paperclip ?
868168;1412983935;mike_c;see the textification qntra did of the defense filing. all chopped up and stuff.
868169;1412983972;mike_c;siri doesn't have to produce a readable text though, just understand the gist.
868170;1412984008;mike_c;depends how important quality is i guess. but a rough text is painful to read to me.
868171;1412984094;mircea_popescu;quality is actulaly pretty important yeah,.
868172;1412984884;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfzph5dHs0 << check out the bitcoin evanghelist.
868173;1412984885;assbot;Bitcoin Poem #1 - Bitcoin is not - YouTube
868174;1412985263;ben_vulpes;http://emojilisp.com/
868175;1412985263;assbot;Emojilisp!
868176;1412985292;ben_vulpes;the only language adequate to replace c++ for btc dev
868177;1412986262;*;xanthyos
868178;1412987071;mod6;%ob
868179;1412987073;atcbot;7k@266 99k@255 30k@225 | 4k@185 70k@180 100k@175
868180;1412987089;mod6;%v
868181;1412987090;atcbot;[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 179k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198
868182;1412987659;xanthyos;here is a btc-appropriate twitter header picture http://gyazo.com/08b6287de0ba69c0687c38a659d26c9a
868183;1412987739;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gamer-currency-hyper-goes-where-bitcoin-cant-into-the-bin/
868184;1412988157;bounce;http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/10/brandson_backs_blockchain_bitcoin_bandwagon/
868185;1412988157;assbot;Beardie Branson backs Blockchain's Bitcoin bandwagon The Register
868186;1412988285;mircea_popescu;lol
868187;1412988677;mircea_popescu;mike_c am i not seeing something or do you not mean http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee/ ? seems perfectly ok formatted
868188;1412988679;assbot;Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee
868189;1412988734;mike_c;http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbricht-attorneys-file-response-to-government/
868190;1412988735;assbot;Ulbricht Attorneys File Response to Government
868191;1412988741;mike_c;text is broken up
868192;1412988925;mircea_popescu;ah ah
868193;1412989312;ben_vulpes;cazalla: considered emailing the defense for the unadulterated text?
868194;1412989348;cazalla;I think that's more BingoBoingo's department, I don't claim to grasp much of it tbh
868195;1412989362;mircea_popescu;not a bad idea, considering they probably want exposure. dubious if it's worth the hassle.
868196;1412989630;ben_vulpes;more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's.
868197;1412989636;mircea_popescu;tru
868198;1412991649;thickasthieves;they want exposure
868199;1412991665;thickasthieves;;;ticker
868200;1412991666;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.26, Best ask: 365.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 365.0, 24 hour volume: 21725.59361661, 24 hour low: 351.1, 24 hour high: 380.08, 24 hour vwap: 362.056811116
868201;1412991683;thickasthieves;time for the trip to 400-440
868202;1412991872;kakobrekla;scam
868203;1412991955;thickasthieves;ponzi
868204;1412992550;devthedev;mircea_popescu: I liked your analogy in regards to the Internet Watch Foundation claim.
868205;1412992597;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/strange-in-the-street/
868206;1412993275;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptosnews-join-the-shenanigans-at-startjoin/
868207;1412993295;cazalla;with that, lunch
868208;1412995181;xanthyos;212926 <@aspirant> i dont like bitcoin
868209;1412995181;xanthyos;212931 <@aspirant> i know almost nothing about it
868210;1412995537;mircea_popescu;!up PinkPosixPXE
868211;1412995540;mircea_popescu;xanthyos not a crime
868212;1412995565;assbot;zeeeando0oO +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
868213;1412995567;mircea_popescu;devthedev_ cool!
868214;1412995571;mircea_popescu;!up zeeeando0oO
868215;1412995576;zeeeando0oO;thank you
868216;1412995582;mircea_popescu;sure.
868217;1412995584;mircea_popescu;who're you ?
868218;1412995724;zeeeando0oO;I am xiando.
868219;1412995736;zeeeando0oO;I am not important.
868220;1412995742;mircea_popescu;;;later tell princessnell http://www.8btc.com/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains check it out, you're big in china
868221;1412995745;assbot; |
868222;1412995745;gribble;The operation succeeded.
868223;1412995797;mircea_popescu;ok, so what can we do for you, xiando that is not important ?
868224;1412995894;zeeeando0oO;Share secrets. though I already get those by idling. Could I just idle and not be important and talk if I do find anything interesting to share?
868225;1412995915;mircea_popescu;yup.
868226;1412995929;mircea_popescu;most people ctually do exactly that.
868227;1412996229;mircea_popescu;;;ident zeeeando0oO
868228;1412996229;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'zeeeando0oO', with hostmask 'zeeeando0oO!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv
868229;1412996272;mircea_popescu;;;rate zeeeando0 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7
868230;1412996272;assbot;[14:13] I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com
868231;1412996272;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
868232;1412996279;mircea_popescu;;;rate xiando 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7
868233;1412996279;assbot;[14:13] I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com
868234;1412996280;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xiando has been recorded.
868235;1412996337;ben_vulpes;pahahaha what the hell
868236;1412996413;mircea_popescu;old stories.
868237;1412996427;xiando;;;ident xiando
868238;1412996427;gribble;Nick 'xiando', with hostmask 'xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv
868239;1412996456;mircea_popescu;xiando you can self-voice by pming assbot !up
868240;1412996492;xiando;it keeps telling me I need a better WOT rating
868241;1412996515;ben_vulpes;;;gettrust assbot xiando
868242;1412996515;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xiando: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xiando | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xiando | Rated since: Mon Feb 18 08:34:39 2013
868243;1412996527;ben_vulpes;it'll percolate through the mud
868244;1412996541;mircea_popescu;xiando i just fixed that above. there's a delay, bout an hour or so, cause multiple cache layers.
868245;1412996576;kakobrekla;if gribble sees it, assbot will too.
868246;1412996576;xiando;Thank you.
868247;1412996700;kakobrekla;and you really tried just once, before the rating, so wtf.
868248;1412996730;kakobrekla;anyway imma go. later
868249;1412996752;mircea_popescu;anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet.
868250;1412996843;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mtgox-freeze-money-absurd-answers-of-support-student-desperate-and-out-option.95502/#post-1613198 << back in the day, before timisoara conference, last weeks of mtgox.
868251;1412996843;assbot;Mtgox freeze money, Absurd answers of support, student desperate and out option | Bitcointa.lk
868252;1412997345;mircea_popescu;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByxGzdECIAIHbN7.jpg:large << check out the gall of the aussie bureaucracy
868253;1412997374;mircea_popescu;"this letter can not be used for any purpose". how fucking dare they ?
868254;1412997514;thickasthieves;you are not allowed to read what i say
868255;1412997528;thickasthieves;stop
868256;1412997552;mircea_popescu;http://identi.fi/id/account/mircea_popescu@bitcoin-otc.com << check out the scrappers ?
868257;1412997552;assbot;Identifi - mircea_popescu
868258;1412997625;thickasthieves;such css
868259;1412997659;mircea_popescu;o wait it's sirius' ?!
868260;1412997701;mircea_popescu;;;ident sirius^
868261;1412997702;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
868262;1412997709;mircea_popescu;;;gpg info sirius
868263;1412997709;gribble;No such user registered.
868264;1412997712;mircea_popescu;o.O
868265;1412997740;mircea_popescu;Anduck ?
868266;1412997755;thickasthieves;"Identifi is an address book application that stores its data in a distributed fashion on the computers of its users. The stored information is not owned or centrally administered by anyone."
868267;1412997894;mircea_popescu;fucking twitter "load stuff on scrolldown"
868268;1412998029;thickasthieves;bandwidth strikes again
868269;1412998091;mircea_popescu;so apparently it actually is sirius' thing
868270;1412998142;thickasthieves;how i sit decentralized? you just compile and dl latest copy of db?
868271;1412998167;thickasthieves;with every user being a node or sumth
868272;1412998195;mircea_popescu;basically the original creator of tardstalk surreptitiously forked otc
868273;1412998243;thickasthieves;looks like it supports otc, rather than just scraping data, no?
868274;1412998249;mircea_popescu;no.
868275;1412998262;thickasthieves;a future of wots would need to chain wots together right?
868276;1412998262;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there.
868277;1412998262;assbot;Rating Details for User 'anduck'
868278;1412998280;thickasthieves;each wot having a trust rating with another wot
868279;1412998288;mircea_popescu;but that's not what's happening here.
868280;1412998293;thickasthieves;hrm
868281;1412998318;mircea_popescu;basically, guy imported the otc wot as-is, is not talking back to it, and is allowing users on his system to log in through shit like facebook, and make ratings.
868282;1412998330;mircea_popescu;so it's either an attack or a degenerate reimplementation. one or the other.
868283;1412998342;mircea_popescu;course nobody is answering in their otherwise barren support chan.
868284;1412998359;thickasthieves;i dont think the facebook part is a crime
868285;1412998385;mircea_popescu;http://identi.fi/id/account/theymos%40bitcoin-otc.com << look at that.
868286;1412998402;mircea_popescu;depends in what sense. i wouldn't trust someone because htey're "facebook logged in"
868287;1412998409;thickasthieves;me either
868288;1412998447;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=theymos&sign=ANY&type=RECV << as compared.
868289;1412998448;assbot;Rating Details for User 'theymos'
868290;1412998454;thickasthieves;i'd still trust them less for logging in via facebook even if auth'd
868291;1412998462;mircea_popescu;basically prima facie the scammers made themselves a bootstrap fake wot.
868292;1412998477;thickasthieves;site is hanging now
868293;1412998485;thickasthieves;apparently this chan ddos'd it
868294;1412998500;mircea_popescu;myeah.
868295;1412998509;mircea_popescu;well it went into the logs is the problem
868296;1412998530;mircea_popescu;don't tell the seo spammers, but google indexes stuff from the logs in ~1 minute.
868297;1412998531;thickasthieves;heh
868298;1412998556;thickasthieves;well we can protect from seo spammers pretty easily
868299;1412998621;The20YearIRCloud;protect what?
868300;1412998631;mircea_popescu;anyway. i wonder if the long term effect will be to help idiots get familiar with the wot (positive) or to get idiots to think they;re part of the wot on a facebook login based bootstrap website (negative)
868301;1412998642;mircea_popescu;provided of course it survives long enough to matter.
868302;1412998643;ben_vulpes;;;gettrust luke-jr theymos
868303;1412998643;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user luke-jr to user theymos: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=luke-jr&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010
868304;1412998709;mircea_popescu;https://login.persona.org/sign_in << holy shit, mozila persona ?!
868305;1412998709;assbot;Mozilla Persona: A Better Way to Sign In
868306;1412998711;mircea_popescu;this thing is evil
868307;1412998849;thickasthieves;requires firefox? (errors for me)
868308;1412998913;mircea_popescu;it's this mozilla evil. sort-of like the darkemail or w/e that was
868309;1412999026;thickasthieves;meh
868310;1412999034;thickasthieves;no one will ever use it
868311;1412999045;thickasthieves;i cant think why anyone ever would
868312;1412999048;mircea_popescu;it was launched in 2011 and abandoned in 2012, but w/e
868313;1412999089;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves kinda what irks me. so obviously wasted effort, and a lot of it. i don't think the people in question are actually nefariously motivated, but you'd think old timers'd have more sense. anyway.
868314;1412999140;thickasthieves;sometimes these things come back to life as a body part of something decent
868315;1412999154;thickasthieves;like maybe that head engineer gets into bitcoin and makes some wot stuff
868316;1412999183;*;thickasthieves turns down the hope.
868317;1412999186;mircea_popescu;i was talking about the identi.fi thing again
868318;1412999190;mircea_popescu;aaanyway.
868319;1412999202;mircea_popescu;ruby rots brains, it's obvious by now.
868320;1412999227;thickasthieves;i never liked the name
868321;1412999236;thickasthieves;which is obv what's important
868322;1412999804;thickasthieves;qntra seems laggy
868323;1412999825;thickasthieves;it does this thing where pages dont load but then they do
868324;1413000048;cazalla;seems ok here
868325;1413000055;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitfilm-festivals-fundraiser-coins-now-available-to-supporters/
868326;1413000382;ben_vulpes;i live in a weird parallel universe
868327;1413000389;ben_vulpes;today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint
868328;1413000408;ben_vulpes;"what'd i do to deserve this?!"
868329;1413000420;ben_vulpes;"nothing, you're just awesome."
868330;1413000426;*;ben_vulpes inspects for lethal toxins
868331;1413000565;cazalla;not much news around today
868332;1413000717;mircea_popescu;not bad ben_vulpes
868333;1413000894;ben_vulpes;we implemented continuous bookkeeping this week
868334;1413000950;ben_vulpes;realtime resource tracking across all projects
868335;1413000971;ben_vulpes;should save 4 days per month of collating and tabulating timesheets into invoices for clients.
868336;1413000994;ben_vulpes;csv export -> payroll company uploader
868337;1413001004;ben_vulpes;"don't keep your timesheet up to date? no paychecks."
868338;1413001363;ben_vulpes;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnKuIbKauXk&list=UU4zzTEL5tuIgGMvzjk1Ozbg
868339;1413001363;assbot;Hinged negatively curved surfaces - YouTube
868340;1413002600;thickasthieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iwt5q/in_light_of_the_gentoo_linux_bitcoin_client/
868341;1413002600;assbot;In light of the Gentoo Linux Bitcoin client kerfluffle, I just created a Docker container to quickly & easily build the latest version of bitcoind from source. : Bitcoin
868342;1413002643;thickasthieves;http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/10/dell-becomes-bitcoin-mining-data-center-provider/
868343;1413002644;assbot;Dell Becomes Bitcoin Mining Data Center Provider | Data Center Knowledge
868344;1413002708;mircea_popescu;cazalla ^ :D you were complaining ?
868345;1413002756;cazalla;just as people know i'm not recycling shared links here for their consumption
868346;1413002804;mircea_popescu;o wow look at that. people using go for something ?!
868347;1413002879;ben_vulpes;docker rules
868348;1413002924;*;mircea_popescu tries to remember who Allen Oh is
868349;1413002970;mircea_popescu;!s bitcoinasichosting
868350;1413002970;assbot;0 results for 'bitcoinasichosting' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoinasichosting
868351;1413003064;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves apparently this is 2013 ? https://bitcointa.lk/threads/hosting-asic-miner-hosting-insured-opened-2nd-room.139109/
868352;1413003065;assbot;[HOSTING] ASIC Miner Hosting (Insured) - Opened 2nd Room | Bitcointa.lk
868353;1413003215;thickasthieves;i dunno
868354;1413003267;mircea_popescu;http://bitfundltd.com/ that dalkore dude. such lulz.
868355;1413003268;assbot;Welcome to Bitfund Ltd | Bitcoin – Investments – Mining Management – Consulting
868356;1413003275;mircea_popescu;i knew i knew who he is.
868357;1413004728;mircea_popescu;wp total cache 8.5.2 (compatible with wp 2.9) ? 250kb. wp total cache 9.4 (compatible with wp 4) ? 1.8mb.
868358;1413004731;mircea_popescu;seriously ? why.
868359;1413004915;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/
868360;1413004946;cazalla;that one is an exclusive
868361;1413005393;thickasthieves;thinking out loud, would it make sense to include ticker symbol for news about public companies?
868362;1413005418;thickasthieves;looks weird with "Dell" being the only attribute
868363;1413005439;thickasthieves;is it Michael Dell?
868364;1413005440;thickasthieves;etc
868365;1413005465;thickasthieves;or to say Dell, LLC or whatever
868366;1413005489;cazalla;yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think
868367;1413005522;mats_cd03;minor note dell isn't public anymore
868368;1413005531;thickasthieves;word!
868369;1413005554;thickasthieves;qntra never told me, so i didnt kno
868370;1413005576;cazalla;qntra assumed the reader knew
868371;1413005604;thickasthieves;omg i have to know things?
868372;1413005606;thickasthieves;scam
868373;1413005898;mircea_popescu; yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think << yes.
868374;1413008921;mircea_popescu;http://midtownmiscreant.blogspot.com.ar/ << check out annoyed person
868375;1413008922;assbot;Midtown Miscreant
868376;1413009706;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 36(Y):64(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.9659 BTC. Current weight: 88,524.
868377;1413011073;Vexual;cazalla: not much news around today > piff
868378;1413011255;mircea_popescu;cazalla https://www.google.com/search?q=Arthur+Budovsk&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << it's budowsky
868379;1413011255;assbot;Arthur Budovsk - Google Search
868380;1413011263;Vexual;(incredulous)
868381;1413011392;Vexual;hello Mr Popescue
868382;1413011405;mircea_popescu;hey & bye!
868383;1413011416;Vexual;bye
868384;1413011432;cazalla;mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo posted the article, he might have a reason for dropping the y but i've changed it and will ask
868385;1413011593;Vexual;the a in announced isn't hyperlinky either
868386;1413011672;penguirker;New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/liberty-reserve-founder-arthur-budovsky-extradited/
868387;1413011748;cazalla;well, that is not ideal to have it broadcast here again
868388;1413011866;fluffypony;The url changed
868389;1413011875;fluffypony;So it's viewed as a new article
868390;1413011894;Vexual;sux when you fuck up the headline
868391;1413011927;cazalla;i didn't fuck it up, was done while i was sleeping
868392;1413011948;Vexual;collective you
868393;1413011955;Vexual;youse perhaps :)
868394;1413012081;Vexual;better that than some rude placeholder that goes to the printers
868395;1413012222;Vexual;didnt the afr print some front page fuckup wthat was on sale in perth for a few hours recently?
868396;1413012273;Vexual;;;google world is fuct
868397;1413012273;gribble;Newspaper Has An Absolute Shocker - BuzzFeed: ; F.U.C.T. - "Infectious World" - YouTube: ; F.U.C.T. - Infectious World - YouTube:
868398;1413012429;cazalla;nfi Vexual
868399;1413012478;Vexual;well that first link defines a resounding yes, didn't hurt em none
868400;1413012615;cazalla;because noone buys fucking newspaper
868401;1413012658;Vexual;oh yeah
868402;1413012756;Vexual;unless it's got something good in it
868403;1413012809;Anduck;06:31:02 >+mircea_pop| http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there. << that's because the 'anduck' there isn't same anduck account. (it's me though)
868404;1413012810;assbot;Rating Details for User 'anduck'
868405;1413012860;Vexual;ooh philosophy
868406;1413012973;Vexual;i'd rate you -1 because im jealous of your nick, but with philosophy like that it evens out
868407;1413013692;Vexual;qntra does opinion on saturdays huh?
868408;1413016611;cazalla;!s qntra ezy
868409;1413016612;assbot;0 results for 'qntra ezy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra+ezy
868410;1413016618;cazalla;!s qntra bitcoinezy
868411;1413016618;assbot;0 results for 'qntra bitcoinezy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra+bitcoinezy
868412;1413016622;cazalla;god fuck it
868413;1413016818;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00073834 = 14.3238 BTC [-]
868414;1413016849;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNoBstt8uYM
868415;1413016850;assbot;Sacher Musak - "Gorba The Chief" - YouTube
868416;1413017116;*;Vexual can dance to this
868417;1413017181;punkman;you'll need vodka
868418;1413017220;*;punkman can't even remember last time he had vodka
868419;1413017457;Vexual;i can get some potatoes to the fermenter if you want
868420;1413017602;Vexual;nubbins could do the labels and deedbot does the rest?
868421;1413017739;punkman;"Vexual Vodka"... totally works!
868422;1413017774;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD3tWgZAav8
868423;1413017774;assbot;Baloji with Konono N1 - "Karibu Ya Bintou" (English subtitles) - YouTube
868424;1413017789;Vexual;im sure theres a better name
868425;1413017921;Vexual;im watching without subtitles, coz thats how i roll
868426;1413018180;Vexual;i notice the difference between an uppercut in kinshasa and paris
868427;1413018770;Vexual;whereas in soviet union, uppercuts notice you
868428;1413019818;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqBw6FNNng
868429;1413019931;thestringpuller;ls
868430;1413020223;Vexual;thestringpuller.txt
868431;1413020617;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk
868432;1413020723;thestringpuller;What is this?
868433;1413020731;thestringpuller;lol
868434;1413020764;Vexual;jamacia preparations
868435;1413020769;thestringpuller;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk << possible qntra story about how not to run a chartiy?
868436;1413020769;assbot;Gotye - State Of The Art - official video - YouTube
868437;1413020774;thestringpuller;oops
868438;1413020780;thestringpuller;http://www.coindesk.com/seans-outpost-charity-finances-hit-drop-bitcoin-price/ ***
868439;1413020780;assbot;Sean's Outpost Charity Finances Hit By Drop in Bitcoin Price
868440;1413020819;thestringpuller;Vexual: you ever gonna be in WoT?
868441;1413020826;thestringpuller;You enigma guy huh?
868442;1413020859;Vexual;Mr MuXne be my wot alter ego
868443;1413020901;Vexual;;;idenitfy Vexual
868444;1413020902;gribble;Error: "idenitfy" is not a valid command.
868445;1413020905;thestringpuller;;;ident
868446;1413020906;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
868447;1413020921;Vexual;;;ident
868448;1413020921;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne
868449;1413020991;thestringpuller;LOL
868450;1413021033;thestringpuller;random bloke: "which address is yours?" Vexual: "The one that says bad muthafucka on it."
868451;1413021096;Vexual;i don't accept encypted coms as a metter of course
868452;1413021127;thestringpuller;it's just a great pulp fiction reference
868453;1413021143;Vexual;great film
868454;1413021145;thestringpuller;even if unintended
868455;1413021180;thestringpuller;neat song btw in the youtube video
868456;1413021189;thestringpuller;was a good intermission in my TV binging
868457;1413021227;Vexual;perfect
868458;1413021246;thestringpuller;been hacking away at this WoT Visualizer
868459;1413021395;Vexual;in between sex and the city?
868460;1413021579;thestringpuller;no. fall tv on hulu
868461;1413021583;thestringpuller;but close
868462;1413021586;thestringpuller;SVU
868463;1413021641;Vexual;americano?
868464;1413021825;punkman;I tried to watch something on hulu few weeks ago, the damn ads wouldn't buffer so there was like 15 min of stuttering video for 20 min of content
868465;1413021937;Vexual;yet you persisted?
868466;1413021959;thestringpuller;ah. the ads are the worst
868467;1413021970;thestringpuller;but tvtorrents.com has become unreliable
868468;1413022010;thestringpuller;https://twitter.com/TVTorrents_com
868469;1413022012;assbot;TVTorrents.com (@TVTorrents_com) |
868470;1413022367;Vexual;google does it too, more expensive ads load quicker, cheap advertisers teach their customers rage
868471;1413022447;gabriel_laddel;thestringpuller: I'm curious as to the stack you're using for the visualizer. Care to divulge details?
868472;1413022504;thestringpuller;just d3
868473;1413022515;punkman;maybe relevant to your interests http://graphlab.com/index.html
868474;1413022515;assbot;GraphLab | Unleash Data Science
868475;1413022520;thestringpuller;http://bl.ocks.org/d3noob/5141278 << it'll look like that at first
868476;1413022521;assbot;Basic Directional Force Layout Diagram
868477;1413022531;thestringpuller;then it'll get more functionality as people demand it etc.
868478;1413022600;thestringpuller;http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/1153292 I'm aiming to have differentiation in links as so here
868479;1413022600;assbot;Mobile Patent Suits
868480;1413022629;thestringpuller;D3 is tricky, I was introduced to it in a class in 2013 and still don't know what the hell I'm doing without experts helping me ~_~
868481;1413022668;Vexual;are you making a better datafox?
868482;1413022675;thestringpuller;datafox?
868483;1413022678;thestringpuller;;;google datafox
868484;1413022679;gribble;DataFox: ; Blog | DataFox | Structured insights make better decisions faster: ; DataFox | CrunchBase:
868485;1413022683;gabriel_laddel;D3 is tricky like riding a broken bike is 'tricky'
868486;1413022718;punkman;heh " It's your personal cheat sheet for Wall Street-level analysis of Silicon Valley-style companies."
868487;1413022747;thestringpuller;gabriel_laddel: how so?
868488;1413022758;thestringpuller;what's speicifically broken as I wouldn't know
868489;1413023054;gabriel_laddel;thestringpuller: your client starts your visualization with the browser taking up 1/2 screen and resizes it. sure you're able to grab the relative location of all nodes and regenerate the whole graph to prevent it from having visual clipping errors, but UGH, fixing this requires CSS/HTML hackers. okay. someone has a library that handles this. cool. you install this library how? JS doesn't have a (standard) package
868490;1413023054;gabriel_laddel;manager. what if you want to fiddle with something in the package you've installed a (by definition) non-standard fashion? I hope you like grepping through sources, cause you're not gonna have M-. etc.
868491;1413023187;thestringpuller;wait what?
868492;1413023192;thestringpuller;i've never had this problem
868493;1413023218;gabriel_laddel;which one?
868494;1413023225;thestringpuller;clipping issues
868495;1413023239;gabriel_laddel;screens coming shortly.
868496;1413023608;BingoBoingo;