738937;1404173108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.0008285 = 8.0124 BTC [-] 738938;1404173474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 77 @ 0.019 = 1.463 BTC [+] 738939;1404173993;mod6;%d 738940;1404173994;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 391032.26 in 1204 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.55 738941;1404174033;mod6;wow @ game #10 738942;1404174081;mike_c;get it while its hot 738943;1404174240;BingoBoingo;The only thing that might make WoL substantially better would be Klye having ATC 738944;1404174282;[]bot;Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.905 BTC. Current weight: 67,683. 738945;1404175365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 738946;1404175670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 77 @ 0.01440459 = 1.1092 BTC [-] {7} 738947;1404175853;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00082854 = 25.6847 BTC [+] 738948;1404175975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47509 @ 0.00082805 = 39.3398 BTC [-] {3} 738949;1404177195;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00082657 = 9.8775 BTC [-] {3} 738950;1404177394;benkay;nuts 738951;1404177417;benkay;;;later tell RainMan28 next time send me a pm, i'll read it when i get back 738952;1404177417;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738953;1404177439;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082809 = 4.5545 BTC [+] 738954;1404177945;benkay;;;ident RainMain28 738955;1404177946;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 738956;1404177959;benkay;;;gpg info RainMan28 738957;1404177959;gribble;User 'RainMan28', with keyid F2825626E97847CF, fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA, registered on Sat May 31 17:50:39 2014, last authed on Sun Jun 29 03:04:52 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=RainMan28 . Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28 . 738958;1404178560;assbot;RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 738959;1404178678;benkay;!up RainMan28 738960;1404178745;benkay;;;ident RainMan28 738961;1404178745;gribble;Nick 'RainMan28', with hostmask 'RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28', is identified as user 'RainMan28', with GPG key id F2825626E97847CF, key fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA 738962;1404179330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.03211175 = 0.7065 BTC [-] {3} 738963;1404179496;benkay;;;ident caerian 738964;1404179496;gribble;Nick 'caerian', with hostmask 'Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com', is identified as user 'Caerian', with GPG key id 571A02E6E01766F6, key fingerprint 7C5922F713D60AF3300E7578571A02E6E01766F6, and bitcoin address 1FYyJ3BW1MPHutc92Atw3XVQZ7V9Q1Bbqg 738965;1404179504;benkay;;;gettrust caerian 738966;1404179504;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com. Trust relationship from user benkay to user caerian: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=caerian | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=caerian | Rated since: Fri Feb 1 15:14:20 2013 738967;1404179511;benkay;;;gettrust RainMan28 738968;1404179512;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28. Trust relationship from user benkay to user RainMan28: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=RainMan28 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RainMan28 | Rated since: Fri Jun 6 17:17:21 2014 738969;1404180332;benkay;more chapters in the saga: http://pastebin.com/FeinL812 738970;1404180333;assbot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAG - Pastebin.com 738971;1404180360;benkay;!up RainMan28 738972;1404180367;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00082809 = 7.0802 BTC [+] 738973;1404180368;benkay;;;rate RainMan28 1 +v 738974;1404180369;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RainMan28 has been recorded. 738975;1404180374;RainMan28;thanks benkay 738976;1404180380;benkay;RainMan28: you can now !up yourself via PM to assbot 738977;1404180442;RainMan28;yeah, for anyone wanting the tl;dr version, ninjashogun has been soliciting a $30,000 investment daily in bitcoin-otc for the past few days and doesn't seem to be who he says he is. Maybe just a scammer, but maybe something other than that too. Not sure. 738978;1404180794;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5334 @ 0.00082809 = 4.417 BTC [+] 738979;1404181085;bloctoc_;If I ever put together an investor deck (which I won't) I swear to assbot that I will ask for a "new suit and used rolex submariner" 738980;1404181170;RainMan28;yeah, seriously 738981;1404181172;bloctoc_;If ninja shogun was really a good steward of investor funds, he would ask for a used suit instead of new. 738982;1404181176;RainMan28;when I read that, wasn't sure if he was trolling 738983;1404181183;RainMan28;or it was truly amateur hour up in here 738984;1404181212;RainMan28;I can't purchase a suit or a desktop computer, please trust me with your $30,000 738985;1404181564;bloctoc_;the graphics setup is pretty sweet thought. I assume it's so he can build a kick ass flying horse for eulora? 738986;1404181568;BingoBoingo;I can't get over the Rolex Submariner's pointy bazel 738987;1404181616;BingoBoingo;*bezel 738988;1404181946;BingoBoingo;I have to say though I wished more makers would follow the Rolex model of using bracelet pins that are acctually screws 738989;1404182366;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.72623333 BTC. Current weight: 98,930. 738990;1404182502;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00082815 = 10.8074 BTC [+] {3} 738991;1404182973;asciilifeform;mr spam never tires! 738992;1404183068;asciilifeform;http://sprunge.us/iXOh << mega-lol 738993;1404183170;*;asciilifeform kindly requests that muppeteer change the muppet routine a bit. this one is getting old, fast. 738994;1404183234;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/149KG6K.txt ) 738995;1404183234;BingoBoingo;!b 1 738996;1404183302;BingoBoingo; 6) I will buy a suit, a used Rolex submariner, and travel and meet with a respected VC I have a warm intro to. (This part is secret and a bit embarrassing, let's not pastebin it) << Why the fuck is the Rolex anything resembling necessary 738997;1404183334;asciilifeform;pig wants lipstick ? 738998;1404183380;asciilifeform;fellow should get a 'montrex.' 738999;1404183384;mike_c;at least he's not getting gold embossed business cards :p 739000;1404183418;asciilifeform;!s montrex 739001;1404183419;assbot;11 results for 'montrex' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=montrex 739002;1404183499;BingoBoingo;Honestly the best place to shop luxury watch brands is the Pawn shop 739003;1404183538;asciilifeform;tlp had a good essay on watch cults 739004;1404183564;asciilifeform;(regarding how no serious wealthy fashion slave would be caught dead with 'rolex' etc) 739005;1404183722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 739006;1404183727;asciilifeform;;;google the last psychiatrist rolex 739007;1404183728;gribble;The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The ...: ; The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great ...: ; The Last Psychiatrist: So At Least Two People Agree With Me: (1 more message) 739008;1404183733;BingoBoingo;Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others) 739009;1404183905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.01916 = 0.5748 BTC [+] 739010;1404183924;BingoBoingo;On my list of things to own eventually list is a Bulova with the "tuning fork" movement. 739011;1404183935;*;asciilifeform doesn't get the point 739012;1404184043;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: My desire for tuning for watch is timekeeping purposes and aesthetics. It is a technology that should have continued instead of fading as it did. 739013;1404184121;asciilifeform;if you actually give a damn about timekeeping - hard to justify mechanical clock. 739014;1404184141;asciilifeform;this is where the old tech conclusively, truly, lost. 739015;1404184241;BingoBoingo;Of course, but aesthetics can justify a lot of things. Atomic clocks aren't that expensive, but not wrist portable. Quartz an dmechanical movements alike have become sweat shop products. The tuning fork electromechanical stuff though has to be sought out as it lost 739016;1404184347;BingoBoingo;If flourocarbon fishing line had been discountinued I would seek it aggressively as well. 739017;1404184380;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: what's the nice thing about the tuning fork scheme ? 739018;1404184443;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Actual smooth movement of the second hand. The lack of such a thing is why I tend to pluck the second hand off of many watches. 739019;1404184504;BingoBoingo;The quartz 1 beat per seconds and the mechanical 4-12 beats per second are an abomination to the eye. 739020;1404184524;BingoBoingo;!up jonvaage 739021;1404184566;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I only appreciated the difference working at a watch stand changing batteries in other people's machines. 739022;1404184837;jonvaage;Hi everyone, nice place you got here. 739023;1404184883;BingoBoingo;Thank you jonvaage, what brings you here? 739024;1404184955;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Value of tuning fork watch is like value of a Mazda miata. Not priced ostentatiously, but there is something about the good that afficianados can appreciate. 739025;1404184988;jonvaage;I'm from Austin, and a few of my friends recommended this channel and so I got set up with the WoT last night. 739026;1404185029;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: quartz resonator in electronic clock (or for that matter every other piece of digital widgetry) is a tuning fork 739027;1404185039;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: your complaint is with the geating on electro-mechanical clocks. 739028;1404185043;asciilifeform;*gearing 739029;1404185047;BingoBoingo;Of course 739030;1404185075;BingoBoingo;If quarts drove 37.5k beats per minute there would be no problem 739031;1404185076;jonvaage;bitcoinpete helped the process along thanks to his blog. 739032;1404185090;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: Cool, what do you do? 739033;1404185164;jonvaage;Structural engineering grad student, but I've been doing a lot of technical diagrams for Open Transactions lately. 739034;1404185173;BingoBoingo;*If quartz drove 37.5k beats per second 739035;1404185174;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: get a soviet copy 739036;1404185193;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If you know of any leads they would be appreciated 739037;1404185233;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: Cool, working with anyone in particular on OT? 739038;1404185270;jonvaage;Mainly Justus Ranvier and Chris Odom 739039;1404185277;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Oh shit, google delivers 739040;1404185304;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://www.decadecounter.com/accutron/clones.htm 739041;1404185305;assbot;The Accutron Revolution - Accuracy Through Electronics 1960-1977 739042;1404185325;asciilifeform;^ don't have such a thing myself, can't comment 739043;1404185364;jonvaage;I'm planning on helping overhaul the OT wiki starting later this week 739044;1404185369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2774 @ 0.00082648 = 2.2927 BTC [-] 739045;1404185392;jonvaage;BingoBoing: how about yourself? 739046;1404185392;TheNewDeal;what is the OT jonvaage? 739047;1404185404;bloctoc_;yep, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest threat to bitcoin right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcvniWtTBI 739048;1404185404;assbot;Bitcoin in the Beltway - ZHOU TONGED - YouTube 739049;1404185443;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: This chinese one http://www.decadecounter.com/accutron/tianjin214.jpg looks most like Bulovas I've seen 739050;1404185453;jonvaage;TheNewDeal: OT = Open Transactions 739051;1404185476;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: I just do misc work. Sometimes private contracts turn into public things. 739052;1404185505;jonvaage;http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page 739053;1404185506;assbot;Open Transactions 739054;1404185739;jonvaage;http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/12/06/voting-pools-how-to-stop-the-plague-of-bitcoin-heists-thefts-hacks-scams-and-losses/ 739055;1404185740;assbot;Voting Pools: How to Stop the Bitcoin Thieves 739056;1404185811;jonvaage;http://i.imgur.com/HTyAJjg.png 739057;1404185864;jonvaage;BingoBoingo: any public things I might have heard of? 739058;1404185925;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: F.MPIF thedrinkingrecord.com 739059;1404185948;asciilifeform;'voting pool' idea << sybil magnet 739060;1404186003;asciilifeform;and what does one need to smoke to see the pluses of the concept of letting competitors vote on whether you can spend your coin ? 739061;1404186029;BingoBoingo;Honestly I dunno of many people who improved the Bitcoin "ecosystem" moar than Pirateat40 739062;1404186046;TheNewDeal;hahah 739063;1404186051;asciilifeform;i just don't get it. people keep asking to bake 'democracy' in 739064;1404186212;BingoBoingo;Without Pirate impoverishing idiots I dunno if hitting $20 a second time would have been possible. 739065;1404186269;jonvaage;I don't think it's out of love for democracy. 739066;1404186344;jonvaage;Haha, I've said more than once that scammers are pro-social in an anti-fragile system. 739067;1404186370;asciilifeform;it's out of a bizarre lsd trip idea that 'crowd has wisdom' and voting can sum intelligence 739068;1404186406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18965 = 1.5172 BTC [-] {2} 739069;1404186434;BingoBoingo;!up jonvaage 739070;1404186434;BingoBoingo;The social problem means little compared to the scarcity virtue 739071;1404186436;TheNewDeal;crowd has wisdom is true though 739072;1404186470;TheNewDeal;at least, that's what they taught it in an engineering statistics class 739073;1404186479;asciilifeform;'If of ten men, nine are recognizable as fools, which is a common calculation,' says our Intermittent Friend, 'how in the name of wonder will you ever get a ballotbox to grind you out a wisdom from the votes of these ten men? Never by any conceivable ballotbox, nor by all the machinery in Bromwicham or out of it, it will you attain such a result. Not by any method under Heaven, except by suppressing, and in some 739074;1404186479;asciilifeform;good way reducing to zero, nine of those votes, can wisdom ever issue from your ten.' 739075;1404186485;asciilifeform;(guess who) 739076;1404186532;benkay;Naggum! 739077;1404186540;asciilifeform;carlyle 739078;1404186544;benkay;godamnit 739079;1404186577;asciilifeform;(lifted from mr. mold: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/hanson-moldbug-debate.html) 739080;1404186577;assbot;Page not found 739081;1404186641;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: The nice thing is that over time the scammers become less relevant of necessity 739082;1404186712;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9652 @ 0.00082606 = 7.9731 BTC [-] {2} 739083;1404186714;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this is far from a physical inevitability. you will find systems that reach a steady state of appalling scammitude. 739084;1404186739;asciilifeform;('lemon market' and similar phenomena) 739085;1404186750;jonvaage;BingoBoingo: Exactly, they just serve as highly effective educators by reducing information asymmetry. 739086;1404186779;TheNewDeal;highly effective educators? 739087;1404186781;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well thanks to Cex.io Bitcoin seems largely stuck in a phase like that nao. I think persistent steady states are mythical beings though. 739088;1404186811;TheNewDeal;are you telling me that those Middle Eastern King scams educating anyone? 739089;1404186841;asciilifeform;scammers sometimes even succeed in breeding an entire class of dedicated chumps. 739090;1404186852;jonvaage;Lol 739091;1404186865;asciilifeform;(as described in orlov's classic - http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-to-fuffland.html) 739092;1404186866;assbot;ClubOrlov 739093;1404186867;BingoBoingo;Of course they breed chumps. 739094;1404186883;BingoBoingo;Chumps see no cost to their reproduction 739095;1404186911;asciilifeform;breeding - as in actual breeding of organisms who feel they live in vain if they aren't milked. as we did to, e.g. cows. 739096;1404186931;jonvaage;What's the phrase? Sometimes a person's sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. 739097;1404186960;BingoBoingo;;;sell 0.5 BTC at $10000 per BTC Delivery method negotiable 739098;1404186974;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: Usagi? 739099;1404186996;jonvaage;? 739100;1404187037;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: So you have some history to be reading 739101;1404187053;BingoBoingo;;;google Usagi lost wallet 739102;1404187053;gribble;BMF has lost access to it's wallet | Bitcointa.lk: ; BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] - Bitcoin Forum: ; Lost and Found Chapter 1: Prologue, a sailor moon fanfic | FanFiction: 739103;1404187076;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: The returned links are only the most recent chapter in Usagi history 739104;1404187153;BingoBoingo;;;sell 0.5 BTC @ $5000 739105;1404187153;gribble;Error: '$5000' is not a valid price input. 739106;1404187165;jonvaage;BingoBoingo: Alright, thanks. I'll get digging. 739107;1404187169;decimation;for folks who are interested, here's a pretty good series of "how to solder" videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4&list=PLA8CAE64E6ADF634E 739108;1404187169;assbot;How and WHY to Solder Correctly - YouTube 739109;1404187169;BingoBoingo;;;sell 0.5 BTC @ 5000 USD 739110;1404187170;gribble;Order id 20961 created. 739111;1404187254;BingoBoingo;!up jonvaage 739112;1404187339;BingoBoingo;!up AndChat|679296 739113;1404187368;TheNewDeal;BB, you just put up a sell at $5000? 739114;1404187401;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Sell at $10,000/BTC for half of a Bitcoin 739115;1404187458;TheNewDeal;just in case price jumps up really quickly, or whats the point? 739116;1404187489;decimation;asciilifeform: more Carlyle: "Statistics is a science which ought to be honourable, the basis of many most important sciences; but it is not to be carried on by steam, this science, any more than others are; a wise head is requisite for carrying it on. Conclusive facts are inseparable from inconclusive except by a head that already understands and knows." 739117;1404187494;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: To contribute the a better price signal than 2cans and string 739118;1404187541;TheNewDeal;interesting 739119;1404187692;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Asks are thin, I merely offer liquidity. 739120;1404187701;BingoBoingo;And the chance to experience the future 739121;1404187870;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2949 @ 0.00082586 = 2.4355 BTC [-] 739122;1404187886;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 739123;1404187901;gribble;Current Blocks: 308692 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1771 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 10 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15689063286.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.71523 739124;1404187928;decimation;asciilifeform: wrt "crowdsourcing wisdom": usually I find that the proofs offered by the proponents are simple parlor tricks 739125;1404187931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2301 @ 0.00082583 = 1.9002 BTC [-] 739126;1404187947;decimation;like guessing the number of marbles in an urn or the weight of a stone, etc 739127;1404187971;decimation;nearly all humans have the skills, equipment and experience to make an educated guess about such things 739128;1404187981;decimation;the same is not true for other questions of fact 739129;1404188073;TheNewDeal;;;later tell bitcoinpete I'm waiting on bitbet to resolve before sending funds. If it happens before around 8PM GMT on July 1st, I'll be able to make the payment then. Otherwise I will be camping in until Sunday, July 6 (at the latest) without an internet connection. 739130;1404188073;gribble;The operation succeeded. 739131;1404188128;TheNewDeal;decimation, why would you say all humans have the skills 739132;1404188168;TheNewDeal;guessing number of marbles requires some math skills 739133;1404188198;decimation;alright, a significant number have the skills, perhaps a majority 739134;1404188211;decimation;enough to be able to pull the signal out of the noise 739135;1404188211;TheNewDeal;I don't think so 739136;1404188223;TheNewDeal;you have to know something about hexagonal close packed in my opinion 739137;1404188245;TheNewDeal;otherwise our guess could be off by multiple standard deviations 739138;1404188261;TheNewDeal;the guess* 739139;1404188433;decimation;I agree with your point, I'm just trying to build up a case that the other side makes 739140;1404188458;decimation;here's an example of such sophistry: http://wisdomofcrowds.blogspot.com/2010/01/chapter-three-part-v.html 739141;1404188459;assbot;The Wisdom of Crowds: Chapter Three, Part V 739142;1404188663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00082572 = 12.6335 BTC [-] {3} 739143;1404189273;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20156 @ 0.00082665 = 16.662 BTC [+] 739144;1404190554;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00082728 = 4.7982 BTC [+] {2} 739145;1404191042;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082562 = 6.605 BTC [-] 739146;1404192018;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11073 @ 0.00082499 = 9.1351 BTC [-] {2} 739147;1404195190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00082742 = 4.5889 BTC [+] 739148;1404197203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3504 @ 0.00082775 = 2.9004 BTC [+] 739149;1404198911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 4409 @ 0.00050022 = 2.2055 BTC [-] {4} 739150;1404198972;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00082563 = 13.3752 BTC [-] {2} 739151;1404199094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18395408 = 0.9198 BTC [-] {3} 739152;1404199826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49500 @ 0.00082461 = 40.8182 BTC [-] {6} 739153;1404200559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03522469 = 0.7045 BTC [-] 739154;1404201900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00082342 = 6.2168 BTC [-] 739155;1404202211;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo ? 739156;1404202691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7359 @ 0.00082263 = 6.0537 BTC [-] {2} 739157;1404202752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.03270125 = 0.9483 BTC [-] {6} 739158;1404203118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14478 @ 0.00082202 = 11.9012 BTC [-] 739159;1404203606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7241 @ 0.00082202 = 5.9522 BTC [-] 739160;1404203792;pankkake;re. the rolex, some years ago some apparently famous French guy whose name I forgot said if by 50 you had no Rolex, your life was a failure 739161;1404203843;pankkake;I just don't understand ninjashogun's motivations 739162;1404203848;pankkake;or him at all 739163;1404203892;punkman;he's profitable in lols 739164;1404204128;pankkake;extra: what is there to see? 739165;1404204194;pankkake;oh, http://i.imgur.com/nebwLhP.png 739166;1404204910;pankkake;http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/30/2351221/vampire-squirrel-has-worlds-fluffiest-tail 739167;1404204911;assbot;'Vampire' Squirrel Has World's Fluffiest Tail - Slashdot 739168;1404205440;[]bot;Bet placed: 5.01 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.65307467 BTC. Current weight: 27,987. 739169;1404207510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 739170;1404207633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 739171;1404208730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082184 = 4.5201 BTC [-] 739172;1404209767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.01809365 = 0.5428 BTC [-] {7} 739173;1404210378;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14012 @ 0.00082202 = 11.5181 BTC [+] 739174;1404210650;pankkake;http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-now-blocked-in-argentina-140701/ 739175;1404210650;assbot;The Pirate Bay Now Blocked in Argentina | TorrentFreak 739176;1404211414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] {2} 739177;1404211597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8644 @ 0.00082226 = 7.1076 BTC [+] {2} 739178;1404212939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00082184 = 3.6983 BTC [-] 739179;1404213183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 5000 @ 0.0005 = 2.5 BTC [-] {5} 739180;1404213298;jurov;https://protonmail.ch/blog/paypal-freezes-protonmail-campaign-funds/ 739181;1404213298;assbot;Paypal Freezes ProtonMail Campaign Funds | ProtonMail Blog 739182;1404213313;jurov;lol "questioned whether ProtonMail is legal and if we have government approval to encrypt emails" 739183;1404213366;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00082184 = 7.602 BTC [-] 739184;1404214523;kakobrekla;>PAYPAL: You can use the donate button to raise money for a sick cat, but not poor people. 739185;1404214524;kakobrekla;lol. 739186;1404214956;kakobrekla;!up soulblade738 739187;1404216436;pankkake;https://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ips-formal-statement-microsoft-takedown/ 739188;1404216438;assbot;No-IP's Formal Statement on Microsoft Takedown | No-IP Blog - Managed DNS Services 739189;1404217392;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8966 @ 0.00082301 = 7.3791 BTC [+] 739190;1404217431;thestringpuller;!search check your bitcoin privilege 739191;1404217432;assbot;8 results for 'check+your+bitcoin+privilege' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=check%2Byour%2Bbitcoin%2Bprivilege 739192;1404217453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7234 @ 0.00082482 = 5.9667 BTC [+] 739193;1404218152;ThickAsThieves;newegg.com finally on the bandwagon i see 739194;1404218161;ThickAsThieves;gpu sales must be down 739195;1404219344;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10663 @ 0.00082474 = 8.7942 BTC [-] 739196;1404219649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00082437 = 3.4211 BTC [-] 739197;1404219771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.03519976 = 0.7392 BTC [-] {2} 739198;1404220319;cazalla;anyone had an issue with gribble before saying gpg pass incorrect, tried it 10-20 times, worked finally but not sure what i did wrong 739199;1404221993;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/1-800-flowers-com-latest-retailer-add-bitcoin-payments/ 739200;1404221993;assbot;1-800-Flowers.com Adds Bitcoin Payments in Marketing Drive 739201;1404222001;ThickAsThieves;coinbase vs bitpay, needs a bet 739202;1404222017;ThickAsThieves;who will sign on more/bigger retailers 739203;1404222024;jurov;winner:paymium :D 739204;1404222131;ThickAsThieves;well shit i didnt even see the new name 739205;1404222134;ThickAsThieves;when did that happen 739206;1404222158;Apocalyptic;haha jurov 739207;1404222176;ThickAsThieves;wait i got confused 739208;1404222177;jurov;ThickAsThieves: june 23th 739209;1404222186;ThickAsThieves;ok i see 739210;1404222187;jurov;and the merchant solution was announced yest 739211;1404222194;ThickAsThieves;awesome 739212;1404222198;thestringpuller;;;ident cazalla 739213;1404222198;gribble;Nick 'cazalla', with hostmask 'cazalla!cazalla@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe73:590b', is identified as user 'cazalla', with GPG key id 21B9818A468F4AD0, key fingerprint FD9FB3F73B5AE8499A02F0C521B9818A468F4AD0, and bitcoin address 1cKiW19Jc2aQ2sdKGkkEkGnbVZT8kKLAK 739214;1404222240;pankkake;I already forgot. please sign materiel.net davout :) 739215;1404222245;thestringpuller;cazalla: Only if there is a ton of lag and gribble gets more auth request 739216;1404222253;pankkake;then MAYBE I'll spend my bitcoins 739217;1404222298;ThickAsThieves;what's material.net? 739218;1404222370;pankkake;the newegg of France (well arguably we have two toe-to-toe, ldlc.com and materiel.net) 739219;1404222409;pankkake;probably the retailers I've gave the most money to 739220;1404222413;ThickAsThieves;ah i spelled it incorrectly when i tried it in browser 739221;1404222442;davout;pankkake: you know the people? 739222;1404222449;pankkake;unfortunately no 739223;1404222497;davout;i'll dig 739224;1404222510;davout;mebbe 739225;1404222519;pankkake;I would have thought they would be under your radar already 739226;1404222579;davout;it's not really the plan to go after merchants one by one 739227;1404222608;pankkake;if you build it, they will come? 739228;1404222635;davout;that actually happens 739229;1404222639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 448 @ 0.00171002 = 0.7661 BTC [-] {3} 739230;1404222652;jurov;you don't have some referral program at least? 739231;1404222666;pankkake;I know 739232;1404222669;davout;talking with PSPs directly is another option 739233;1404222672;davout;working on it 739234;1404222680;davout;in 2 weeks(tm) 739235;1404222700;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00082379 = 14.9106 BTC [-] {2} 739236;1404222700;assbot;[MPEX] [D.BPAY] 9 @ 0.23999999 = 2.16 BTC 739237;1404222753;jurov;i'm trying to figure out something around here, would need to set up slovak translation and support, is that intersting for you? 739238;1404222753;kakobrekla; that actually happens < nowai 739239;1404222814;nubbins`;happy canada day 739240;1404222836;cazalla;thestringpuller: i think it was lag + otp page was cached 739241;1404223553;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00082184 = 19.2311 BTC [-] 739242;1404224529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 739243;1404224688;bitcoinpete;http://elbitcoin.org/esta-muriendo-litecoin/ << look ma, i'm translated! 739244;1404224689;assbot;Est muriendo Litecoin? | Bitcoin en EspaolBitcoin en Espaol 739245;1404224748;ThickAsThieves;awesome 739246;1404224766;ThickAsThieves;lol ny ltc swan song chart was too optimistic 739247;1404224770;ThickAsThieves;my* 739248;1404224792;pankkake;depends on what your optimism was on 739249;1404224805;ThickAsThieves;well it was a bearish outlook 739250;1404224810;ThickAsThieves;but not bearish enough 739251;1404224823;pankkake;apparently you can short ltc on bitfinex or something? 739252;1404224826;ThickAsThieves;yep 739253;1404224838;ThickAsThieves;and on huobi now too i think 739254;1404224843;ThickAsThieves;to the core! 739255;1404224912;ThickAsThieves;thanks to moiety i cant think of the word manual the same anymore 739256;1404225035;pankkake;the translation changed the title though, it's a question 739257;1404225048;ThickAsThieves;Free trips paid for by private groups must still be reported separately to the House's Office of the Clerk and disclosed there. But they will now be absent from the chief document that reporters, watchdogs, and members of the public have used for decades to scrutinize lawmakers' finances. 739258;1404225063;xmj;good one! 739259;1404225066;xmj;i like that law 739260;1404225084;xmj;it means i can finally buy lawmakers without people watching! that's good, right?? 739261;1404225096;pankkake;it's actually a good question 739262;1404225128;pankkake;if corruption is cheap in the way that the bad laws actually don't stop business, is it better? 739263;1404225208;ThickAsThieves;corrupters gon corrupt 739264;1404225288;bitcoinpete;pankkake: given the byzantine legal framework, finding shortcuts is likely the only thing making business there possible 739265;1404225330;pankkake;of course, I myself don't like corruption because I am bad at dealing with people 739266;1404225398;bitcoinpete;which is like disliking winter sports because you can't ski or skate 739267;1404225404;pankkake;and it seems like unecessary overhead 739268;1404225415;bitcoinpete;so do the winter olympics then 739269;1404225420;pankkake;yes, sure, I could rely on others to do the corruption for me 739270;1404225446;bitcoinpete;division of labour and all that 739271;1404225459;bitcoinpete;you do the blogging, they do the peopleing 739272;1404225551;bitcoinpete;"corrupt" states are slower moving 739273;1404225558;bitcoinpete;more hands to grease 739274;1404225564;bitcoinpete;to people to persuade 739275;1404225579;bitcoinpete;this lends stability as much as anything 739276;1404225597;bitcoinpete;less progressive and growth-oriented and more long-termin' 739277;1404225633;bitcoinpete;but the incentives are at least transparent 739278;1404225650;mike_c;more inadequate bids: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-shop-provides-update-on-its-usms-bitcoin-auction-bid-2014-07-01 739279;1404225651;assbot;Bitcoin Shop Provides Update on Its USMS Bitcoin Auction Bid - MarketWatch 739280;1404225672;bitcoinpete;the incentives here, in this bustling prairie town, are more muddied 739281;1404225683;bitcoinpete;everyone plays "above board" 739282;1404225765;bitcoinpete;mike_c: these guys aren't doing enough research of their competition 739283;1404225778;mike_c;it's going to be embarrassing if reddit finds out the price before b-a. 739284;1404225831;mike_c;bitcoinpete: that research seems to be tough. we still don't know what anybody bid. you'd think the losers would at least say how much they bid. 739285;1404225840;mike_c;i guess its inside info 739286;1404225858;ThickAsThieves;it seems the USG should make it all public 739287;1404225866;ThickAsThieves;now bidders get insider info 739288;1404225869;ThickAsThieves;losing or not 739289;1404225882;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: we're relying on you to tap dat trading network ;) 739290;1404225884;mike_c;i'm sure they will eventually. possibly at govt pace though. 739291;1404225909;bitcoinpete;if usg is refunding deposit by july 7... 739292;1404225932;mike_c;well they already have the money. winners had to wire within 24 hours. 739293;1404225932;ThickAsThieves;traders are behind mike_c, i can tell you thatg 739294;1404225958;ThickAsThieves;i shared the marketwatch link with them and it was news to them 739295;1404225964;mike_c;heh 739296;1404226000;mike_c;if you do well at your daytrading it will have little to do with TA and much to do with your competition :) 739297;1404226038;mike_c;you made me spit out my coffee the other day when i read the log about your ichimo cloud 739298;1404226047;bitcoinpete;lol 739299;1404226049;ThickAsThieves;:) 739300;1404226068;ThickAsThieves;but it worked, i made the price go up with my chart 739301;1404226079;ThickAsThieves;such power 739302;1404226125;ThickAsThieves;fwiw, I'm up 3% in bitcoin over about 12 days 739303;1404226136;mike_c;nice. 739304;1404226627;ThickAsThieves;motherfuckers http://www.bidnessetc.com/22360-netflix-rallies-premarket-on-goldman-sachs-upgrade/ 739305;1404226631;assbot;Netflix Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX) News Analysis: Goldman Sachs Group Inc (NYSE:GS) Upgrades Netflix To Buy 739306;1404226704;ThickAsThieves;so GS comes in and calls an overbought/overpriced stock a BUY, and the whole market follows along? 739307;1404226715;ThickAsThieves;lesson learned... 739308;1404226784;ThickAsThieves;now GS can exit 739309;1404226814;pankkake;they did what you did :) 739310;1404226859;ThickAsThieves;lol 739311;1404227335;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082249 = 7.7314 BTC [+] 739312;1404227667;ThickAsThieves;great, now Motley Fool is joing the NFLX parade 739313;1404227926;bitcoinpete;;;ticker 739314;1404227927;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 654.9, Best ask: 655.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 654.9, 24 hour volume: 10792.15342931, 24 hour low: 618.52, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 641.998439533 739315;1404228176;bitcoinpete;;;later tell thenewdeal thanks! have fun camping! 739316;1404228176;gribble;The operation succeeded. 739317;1404228190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11082 @ 0.00082213 = 9.1108 BTC [-] {2} 739318;1404228420;mike_c;you and whitney, good luck hanging on. 739319;1404228796;pankkake;http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/01/opinion/david-brooks-the-evolution-of-trust.html 739320;1404228800;assbot;Log In 739321;1404229096;Apocalyptic;interesting pankkake 739322;1404229249;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: happy canada day << huzzah! 739323;1404229257;bitcoinpete;bbl 739324;1404229308;ThickAsThieves;"They vote left, but click right." pretty good 739325;1404229496;punkman;"a personalistic culture in which people have actively lost trust in big institutions. Strangers don’t seem especially risky by comparison. This is fertile ground for peer-to-peer commerce." 739326;1404229512;punkman;but they wouldn't really do it without the Airbnb WoT, insurance and fraud screening 739327;1404229563;Apocalyptic;maybe not for that worth of potential loss, but people do it everyday with the gribble's WoT, without insurance and screening 739328;1404229941;BingoBoingo;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/02/world/europe/french-ex-president-sarkozy-said-to-be-held-for-questioning.html 739329;1404229944;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 739330;1404229959;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00082363 = 8.6481 BTC [+] 739331;1404230152;pankkake;pretty much all our presidents end up that way 739332;1404230171;pankkake;and/or die before being sentenced 739333;1404230364;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 739334;1404230365;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 651.57, Best ask: 654.59, Bid-ask spread: 3.02000, Last trade: 654.42, 24 hour volume: 10888.80939557, 24 hour low: 618.52, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 642.289257383 739335;1404230386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.65971051 BTC to 11`101 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 739336;1404230459;[]bot;Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 551.77029214 BTC. Current weight: 39,694. 739337;1404230461;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 40(Y):60(N) by coin, 41(Y):59(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.66613193 BTC. Current weight: 50,045. 739338;1404230630;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00082425 = 6.6764 BTC [+] {2} 739339;1404230732;BingoBoingo;Sports: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/luis-suarez/10935554/Luis-Suarez-offered-football-asylum-by-Kosovan-Superleague-outfit-Hajvalia.html?fb 739340;1404230733;assbot;Luis Suarez offered football asylum by Kosovan Superleague outfit Hajvalia - Telegraph 739341;1404230862;ThickAsThieves;IRS Says Bitcoin Not Reportable On FBAR (For Now) 739342;1404231077;BingoBoingo;%t 739343;1404231082;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 250 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 21k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 739344;1404231105;BingoBoingo;%ob 739345;1404231107;atcbot;20k@274 57k@272 58k@250 | 909k@199 750k@175 216k@160 739346;1404233302;nubbins`;any word on auction results 739347;1404233314;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00082363 = 4.1182 BTC [-] 739348;1404233316;asciilifeform;mp_a_colonia! 739349;1404233335;pankkake;!up mp_a_colonia 739350;1404233342;mp_a_colonia;danke pankkake 739351;1404233355;Apocalyptic;nubbins`, nothing so far afaik 739352;1404233368;mp_a_colonia;asciilifeform, why u n ovoice the noobs! 739353;1404233421;ThickAsThieves;USMS is probly waiting for wires to come in, deadline in 4hrs 739354;1404233431;mp_a_colonia;their payment prolly got held 739355;1404233448;mp_a_colonia;anti-money laundering regs. 739356;1404233462;ThickAsThieves;they should invent a better way 739357;1404233490;mp_a_colonia;like a special crypto currency ? 739358;1404233514;ThickAsThieves;regulated, of course 739359;1404233527;fluffypony;GubmintCoin? 739360;1404233563;mp_a_colonia;benkay: the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. << which way ? 739361;1404233576;mp_a_colonia;o look fluffypony. how was the conference ? 739362;1404233589;ThickAsThieves;oh it hapnd? 739363;1404233625;mp_a_colonia;i dunno, wasn't it gonna be this weekend past ? 739364;1404233646;ThickAsThieves;wat no liveblawg? 739365;1404233666;mp_a_colonia;he promised but then scammed. 739366;1404233727;fluffypony;yes 739367;1404233729;fluffypony;negrate me 739368;1404233735;fluffypony;actually I had the liveblog on a backup 739369;1404233736;ThickAsThieves;;:rate fluffypony -1 You'll be hearing from Bob Loblaw 739370;1404233740;Apocalyptic;lel 739371;1404233744;fluffypony;but my VPS provider disk crashed and the offsite backup isn't offsite 739372;1404233749;mp_a_colonia;;;ticker 739373;1404233751;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 652.6, Best ask: 653.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 652.6, 24 hour volume: 11032.14321207, 24 hour low: 618.52, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 643.643960128 739374;1404233770;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: I decided to live tweet instead of live blog 739375;1404233777;ThickAsThieves;oh shiz 739376;1404233783;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, usagi backuping ? ;;rate -1 !!1 739377;1404233784;fluffypony;because it was more of a gathering than anything super organised 739378;1404233803;mp_a_colonia;omfg the uppity tortilla is copying me! 739379;1404233810;fluffypony;hah hah 739380;1404233814;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3XJ6BJ1.txt ) 739381;1404233814;BingoBoingo;!b 2 739382;1404233815;mp_a_colonia;just get a licence dood 739383;1404233831;mp_a_colonia;so i think they're tearing down this building as we speak. 739384;1404233850;mp_a_colonia;there's like an excavator and major wall bumping 739385;1404233861;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: http://twitter.com/fluffyponyza if you want to take a look at the handful of tweets I pushed out 739386;1404233862;assbot;Ricky Riccardo (fluffyponyza) auf Twitter 739387;1404233889;mp_a_colonia;mike_c, btw is btc live yet ? 739388;1404233892;fluffypony;assbot iz ze German, ja? 739389;1404233892;ThickAsThieves;it does look a bit like a trilema conference 739390;1404233919;fluffypony;I would imagine unintentionally so 739391;1404233927;mp_a_colonia;so davout made a bitpay i see ? 739392;1404233965;davout;hm? 739393;1404233973;ThickAsThieves;paymium 739394;1404233974;mp_a_colonia;punkman: mike_c, is there a reason it doesn't have any sort of time weight when buying shares? << you may not remember this, but yoiu were here when wol was born. specificlaly, mike_c was derping about how you could have better weighting than the bitbet time stuff 739395;1404233983;mp_a_colonia;\and i was like fu noob, make it. 739396;1404233984;mp_a_colonia;so he did 739397;1404234005;fluffypony;I must say, Risto is really a nice guy, and the whole thing was a lot less batshit insane than expected. I think he has very little self-confidence, and makes up for it by being flashy and trying to be as ostentatious as possible, but he's a fairly clever trader and pretty harmless, all things considered. 739398;1404234025;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, was the sauna secure tho ? 739399;1404234056;fluffypony;mp_a_colonia: I avoided the sauna, although the outdoors hottub was great when it got a little chilly 739400;1404234058;ThickAsThieves;sauna secure, risto insecure, got it 739401;1404234083;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, i dunno how much of the history you know 739402;1404234098;mp_a_colonia;but there was this entire clump of lels re the secure sauna last year 739403;1404234120;fluffypony;mp_a_colonia: not much, I tried searching the logs for Risto's name and bitcointalk username, but didn't stumble across anything special except general lelz 739404;1404234152;mp_a_colonia;BingoBoingo: 739405;1404234154;mp_a_colonia;"When you just put institutional investors in a pool that excludes high-frequency traders, they have a hard time trading with each other. There's not, it turns out, all that much natural liquidity." << This << red 739406;1404234158;mp_a_colonia;rethis* 739407;1404234203;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, https://bitcointa.lk/threads/rpietila-public-diary.103436/page-8 739408;1404234204;assbot;rpietila public diary | Page 8 | Bitcointa.lk 739409;1404234262;mp_a_colonia;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/deleted-posts-rpietila-public-diary.122681/ curated hate. 739410;1404234262;assbot;Deleted Posts: rpietila public diary | Bitcointa.lk 739411;1404234315;mike_c;<+mp_a_colonia> mike_c, btw is btc live yet? << getting there. data is crunching. 739412;1404234601;nubbins`;man, we have this new paper cutter and it's so goddamn sharp. 739413;1404234707;mp_a_colonia;pankkake, re oyur latest post : grants of rights don't build freedom, grants of rights build slavery. it's on trilema somewhere but i don't recall where. 739414;1404234771;pankkake;I forgot what the term is, but you have two ways to define rights; positive or negative. "you may do everything except X" vs. "you may do nothing except X" 739415;1404234795;pankkake;while our modern societies are the first in theory, we're close to the second, and that's at least how the French think :( 739416;1404234804;pankkake;it isn't regulated, we can't go there! 739417;1404234840;mp_a_colonia;neither works tho. inasmuch as you accept a right, you accept implicitly that someone was in a position to grant it. 739418;1404234855;mp_a_colonia;i accept no such thing. i have my freedom, and i'll force it down the throat of anyone getting in th reway. 739419;1404234863;mp_a_colonia;i don't have the "right" to free speech. i merely speak freely. 739420;1404234870;fluffypony;meh, mp_a_colonia, those threads sound like the typical eccentric stuff I gloss over for lack of caring - anyone who has a large amount of money (and a relatively large amount of Bitcoin) is allowed to be a bit weird. I definitely think that all is not well upstairs, in the truest sense of the words, but that doesn't make him an outrightly threatening (by virtue of the power they wield) or dangerous (by virtue of ignorance) individual. 739421;1404234899;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, you're not required to hate the guy to fit in the group you know. 739422;1404234904;mp_a_colonia;i personally think he's lulzy. 739423;1404234906;fluffypony;no I know 739424;1404234939;pankkake;his trading advice was interesting 739425;1404234957;mp_a_colonia;yeah, that part i go tdocumented. 739426;1404234957;fluffypony;I get the feeling he comes from wealth, which could lead to the "trying to get daddy's approval" complex 739427;1404234970;mp_a_colonia;http://trilema.com/2013/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber/ 739428;1404234972;assbot;Let’s capture forum bugs in amber pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 739429;1404234979;mp_a_colonia;one of the earliest forum lulz, with the silver. 739430;1404235000;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, i get the exact same thing yes. 739431;1404235016;mp_a_colonia;overcontrolled kids, the northern way. this is the end result. 739432;1404235023;fluffypony;yeah exactly 739433;1404235052;asciilifeform;mr reptila, with his silverware hat, would make good company for mr spam and his imaginary 'rolex' 739434;1404235063;pankkake;btw, do donation addresses in signatures ever work? 739435;1404235116;fluffypony;asciilifeform: the difference being that Pietila actually does have a reasonable shitload of money (which presumably comes from using daddy's bankroll and not completely fucking it up) 739436;1404235135;fluffypony;pankkake: I've donated to gmaxwell and a couple of others who have made particularly insightful posts 739437;1404235138;asciilifeform;i thought he blew it ? 739438;1404235151;fluffypony;asciilifeform: doesn't seem so 739439;1404235155;fluffypony;!up mp_a_colonia 739440;1404235158;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, if he had the sense to keep the 2k btc from that disastrous silver sale back a year ago he's got plenty of btc to matter yes. 739441;1404235170;pankkake;fluffypony: yes, but was it because of the signature? I've got some donations, but that was not from that, and the donators made themselves known 739442;1404235193;fluffypony;pankkake: I enjoyed their post and then found their donation address from their profile or from their signature 739443;1404235217;pankkake;I just feel like the one in the signature is too obnoxious and might actually reduce donations 739444;1404235231;pankkake;I've put mines in profiles and bottom of READMEs 739445;1404235297;fluffypony;good point - I suppose the only time I pay attention to sigs is when I'm looking for something 739446;1404235327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00082229 = 23.0241 BTC [-] 739447;1404235421;mp_a_colonia;prolly best way is to link your address don ation gto your gpg sig 739448;1404235433;mp_a_colonia;sotra let gpg be this central identity handler. 739449;1404235482;pankkake;perhaps I should add it to gribble, though I don't want it as an authentification mechanism 739450;1404235503;fluffypony;you have to auth once and then it's listed as your BTC addy, afaik? 739451;1404235509;mp_a_colonia;yeah. 739452;1404235517;mp_a_colonia;a 2nd auth may be a good idea fo rsafety tho 739453;1404235533;mp_a_colonia;(or for unsafety, in the same way) 739454;1404235578;mp_a_colonia;ThickAsThieves, da fuck is cosmosis 739455;1404235613;pankkake;otherwise, it's in my namecoin profile: http://oneid.io/pankkake http://dns.dnschain.net/id/pankkake 739456;1404235627;mp_a_colonia;that sounds like a proper new age thing. "John Derpelmeyer, Orgasmi Cosmosis Consultant" 739457;1404235677;pankkake;also, I don't see a situation where I would lose my gpg key but not the bitcoin address 739458;1404235743;fluffypony;depends on if you use the Usagi Backup Method or not 739459;1404235753;fluffypony;With Usagi Backup, anything is possible! 739460;1404235768;mp_a_colonia;wasn't mega big power that scammy thing buzzdave moved on after stealing everyone's coin with basic and "blood sweat and tears" tom ? 739461;1404235833;pankkake;oh it's the same guy as 100th? 739462;1404235837;mp_a_colonia;rithm: i'm pretty excited about that << o ya ? im downegragting ytou when i get to the mothership!!1 739463;1404235855;fluffypony;speaking of securities - has Klye now done a runner? 739464;1404235856;mp_a_colonia;pankkake, well, who exactly is behind it is unclear, but prolly. 739465;1404235867;mp_a_colonia;fluffypony, he's prolly just busy with the harem 739466;1404235872;fluffypony;ah of course 739467;1404235873;fluffypony;:-P 739468;1404235920;fluffypony;this Swissotel restaurant has really excellent duck breast with great foie gras 739469;1404235922;fluffypony;quite impressed 739470;1404235944;fluffypony;quail starter leaves a bit to be desired, unfortunately, but the duck breast main is great 739471;1404235948;mp_a_colonia;im stuck here doing salmon with anchove pizza. 739472;1404235951;mp_a_colonia;btw, mthreat 739473;1404235955;mp_a_colonia;colonia has decent pizza. 739474;1404235966;nubbins`;<-- beer-can chicken w/ mesquite smoke 739475;1404235980;fluffypony;nubbins`: I love making beer-can chicken 739476;1404235985;fluffypony;especially with a dark stout 739477;1404235986;nubbins`;+1 739478;1404235991;mp_a_colonia;i thought it was supposed to be a bottle 739479;1404235994;nubbins`;this is my first time using a regular-size can 739480;1404236001;nubbins`;bottle would work 739481;1404236018;nubbins`;usually i use 500ml can. turns out the 355ml actually works better 739482;1404236019;fluffypony;I normally grab an extra-large can because paranoia - does a normal size work ok? 739483;1404236036;nubbins`;you pull the drumsticks forward and they make a nice tripod w/ the can 739484;1404236037;mp_a_colonia;only time i had the thing was in egypt and they were kinda regimented aobut using glass 739485;1404236051;nubbins`;can reuse it, i guess 739486;1404236077;nubbins`;or maybe they were worried about alzheimer's 739487;1404236138;mp_a_colonia;ThickAsThieves: maybe theyll email it out by mistake << o i thought i was the only one that didn;t get emailed the result yet. 739488;1404236188;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/vbgW3WF 739489;1404236188;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 739490;1404236191;mp_a_colonia;lol @this troll log omg. I WAS AT NO POINT ON A PONY 739491;1404236192;nubbins`;^ new cutter 739492;1404236203;mp_a_colonia;HER NAME WAS MARIANGELA OK!!!!! 739493;1404236212;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/hPZumYR 739494;1404236212;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 739495;1404236264;mp_a_colonia;nubbins`, how long till you get a finger ? 739496;1404236278;nubbins`;i cut an edge off the phone book; it was smoother than the other two factory-cut edges 739497;1404236293;nubbins`;mp, i already have 10, running out of room ;( 739498;1404236304;mp_a_colonia;pankkake: I was more implying ponygirl. but well < win. 739499;1404236326;mp_a_colonia;nubbins`, now the phone book trick is cool. 739500;1404236350;nubbins`;srsly, the cut edges feel like a smooth surface 739501;1404236357;nubbins`;like a cigarette paper 739502;1404236420;mp_a_colonia;sweet 739503;1404236472;mp_a_colonia;cgcardona, what's equity work ? like you become a cofounder ? 739504;1404236548;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00082168 = 8.5044 BTC [-] {2} 739505;1404236600;mp_a_colonia;asciilifeform: 739506;1404236653;mp_a_colonia;from the u.s. school of rectothermodynamics: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/massachusetts-high-court-orders-suspect-to-decrypt-his-computers << is htis one of those where you can end up in jail permanently without habeas corpus / other review because "you're holding the keys to your cell" legal philosophy ? 739507;1404236654;assbot;Massachusetts high court orders suspect to decrypt his computers | Ars Technica 739508;1404236766;asciilifeform;it. 739509;1404236980;asciilifeform;!up mp_a_colonia 739510;1404237001;mp_a_colonia;i guess this inadvertently creates an actual avenue of employment for us citizens 739511;1404237019;asciilifeform;inquisitor? plenty employed already 739512;1404237029;mp_a_colonia;they can all be lawyers, to spend a few years decrypting the "russians" communications, and a few decades on govt life support regfusingf to decrypt them 739513;1404237038;asciilifeform;lol 739514;1404237063;mp_a_colonia;it's a living. definitely better than redditard, say. 739515;1404237088;*;asciilifeform once read an obscure treatise on the tricks bums use to get into jail 739516;1404237117;mp_a_colonia;RainMan28, guy's been anging for that 30 for at least 6 months. 739517;1404237148;mp_a_colonia;!s 30k from:ninjashogun 739518;1404237149;assbot;0 results for '30k+from:ninjashogun' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=30k%2Bfrom%3Aninjashogun 739519;1404237171;RainMan28;ah yeah, he keeps trying to put some urgency on it though, that he needs to finalize within 10 days or whatever 739520;1404237183;RainMan28;I am sure he will eventually get someone 739521;1404237206;mp_a_colonia;assbot this is not possibru 739522;1404237225;asciilifeform;i pondered for ages, why herr sp4mz0r wants the 30. (as if he couldn't ask his handler for 300.) but then thought: if some dope ponies up, and 'partners' with him, he can headcrab onto the operation and do his thing. 739523;1404237229;mp_a_colonia;RainMan28, generally the fringe gets lucky on major upswing. if we cross 1k... 739524;1404237285;mp_a_colonia;mike_c: at least he's not getting gold embossed business cards :p << omfg i go to take the bishes to the beash for ONE DAY, the whole operation's in shambles 739525;1404237334;mp_a_colonia;BingoBoingo: Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others) << you know this could be a great business for you ? 739526;1404237353;mp_a_colonia;travel all ove rthe states to buy cheapo shit like thaqt, sell it to bitcoiners who can't be arsed to do it 739527;1404237379;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, mp_a_colonia: where i live, pawn shops are very peculiar places, where nothing is priced remotely close to what any sane person would pay. probably just cash laundries. 739528;1404237424;asciilifeform;(stooge walks in, 'buys', cash washed) 739529;1404237434;mp_a_colonia;asciilifeform, you prolly just need an in. 739530;1404237446;mp_a_colonia;the "retail is for suckers" line is old for a reason. 739531;1404237466;mp_a_colonia;BingoBoingo, oddly enough i actually like the tick seconds, dislike smooth watches. 739532;1404237486;mp_a_colonia;"i KNOW it's a construction, stop trying to lie to me" sort of thing 739533;1404237493;asciilifeform;same - ad-hoc stopwatch. 739534;1404237556;mp_a_colonia;jonvaage: Mainly Justus Ranvier and Chris Odom << wait! justusranvier is now working on ot ? 739535;1404237572;mp_a_colonia;hell, maybe that thing even goes somewhere this time. it's been cooking on a slow fire for > 4 years. 739536;1404237650;mp_a_colonia;asciilifeform: i just don't get it. people keep asking to bake 'democracy' in << suppose there's a class of 16 year olds. the girls are all hormonal, the boys are all eunuchs save one. 739537;1404237662;mp_a_colonia;surprised if there's a lot of attempts to bake cunnilingus in ? 739538;1404237669;asciilifeform;lol 739539;1404237690;mp_a_colonia;"but it's all we can do!!1 we shouldn't be let out!!11 why should tha tasshole dominate the field!!11" 739540;1404237712;asciilifeform;peculiarly cunning linguists, this lot. 739541;1404237718;mp_a_colonia;"cunnilingus is the worst sex practice except for all the others!11" 739542;1404237737;mp_a_colonia;"you can't get a ruptured hymen from button licking!" 739543;1404237800;mp_a_colonia;asciilifeform: it's out of a bizarre lsd trip idea that 'crowd has wisdom' and voting can sum intelligence << if the crowd is randomly distributed, then the result of averaging it is lower errors. like the scientific process. 739544;1404237825;mp_a_colonia;crowd is never diverse enough to even vaguely approximate random distribution, but this point is a bridge too far for your average "social studies" nitwit. 739545;1404237948;mp_a_colonia;TheNewDeal: just in case price jumps up really quickly, or whats the point? << for a long time that seemed like forever back in 2012, Luke-Jr was selling btc for 20 dollars each. 739546;1404238085;mp_a_colonia;jurov: lol "questioned whether ProtonMail is legal and if we have government approval to encrypt emails" << what would they be drinking to use paypal ? 739547;1404238120;asciilifeform;mp_a_colonia: what must they be drinking to crap out yet another 'seekoore mail' ssl gizmo ? 739548;1404238153;mp_a_colonia;o its ssl ? 739549;1404238223;Apocalyptic;drinking web-crypto paradigm probably too 739550;1404238231;asciilifeform;ssl on top of webturd, it seems 739551;1404238240;Apocalyptic;sounds like a win 739552;1404238316;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7864 @ 0.00082154 = 6.4606 BTC [-] {2} 739553;1404238343;mp_a_colonia;"ThickAsThieves: traders are behind mike_c, i can tell you thatg" << might depend which you know. 739554;1404238428;BingoBoingo; wasn't mega big power that scammy thing buzzdave moved on after stealing everyone's coin with basic and "blood sweat and tears" tom ? << YEah 739555;1404238524;mp_a_colonia;Confirmed total: 15103 BTC << woot wasn;t it 15k like... yest ? 739556;1404238534;*;mp_a_colonia hearts bbet 739557;1404238597;mp_a_colonia;;;bc,stats 739558;1404238602;gribble;Current Blocks: 308773 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1690 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15745046007.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.38236 739559;1404238611;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 43(Y):57(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.99866312 BTC. Current weight: 31,775. 739560;1404238613;mp_a_colonia;le drop o noes. 739561;1404238620;mp_a_colonia;%dif 739562;1404238624;mp_a_colonia;%diff 739563;1404238625;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 405882.67 in 1074 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -20.65 739564;1404238727;mp_a_colonia;http://bitbet.us/bet/805/newegg-to-accept-btc-in-2014/ 739565;1404238728;assbot;BitBet - Newegg to accept BTC in 2014 :: 0.35 B (83%) on Yes, 0.07 B (17%) on No | closing in 5 months 1 day| weight: 69`343 (100`000 to 1) 739566;1404238737;asciilifeform;mp_a_colonia: http://ava.md/politics/012473-mircha-popesku-klqch-k-unire-nahoditsya-tol-ko-u-bessarabcev.html << you?! 739567;1404238737;assbot; : | | - AVA.MD 739568;1404238741;ThickAsThieves;<+mp_a_colonia> ThickAsThieves, da fuck is cosmosis /// like osmosis, but cosmic, man 739569;1404238745;mp_a_colonia;bullshit fucking bet. so bbet is out 7 bitcents, charges 0.0o0000oooox 739570;1404238811;asciilifeform;!up mp_a_colonia 739571;1404238818;mp_a_colonia;this sort of crap isn't going to be getting through. apparently nobody the fuck cares what newegg does. 739572;1404238839;mp_a_colonia;and i ngeneral the press'd better figure it out too. if it can';t collect a btc in bitbet bets it ain't news, nor does it matter for bitcoin. 739573;1404238870;benkay; benkay: the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. << which way ? // early to bed, early to rise... 739574;1404238879;mp_a_colonia;nuts 739575;1404238887;mp_a_colonia;she's prolly nesting. 739576;1404238893;benkay;nesting hard 739577;1404238898;benkay;you're aware... 739578;1404238947;ThickAsThieves;bitbet should change to .3 and .7 starter bets 739579;1404238963;pankkake;lol 739580;1404238982;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others) << you know this could be a great business for you ? << I've considered such things. 739581;1404238994;mp_a_colonia;so what was the holdup ? 739582;1404239065;mp_a_colonia;anywya, ima be off now. back in a few hours. 739583;1404239068;BingoBoingo;mp_a_colonia: Doing a bit of research. Also that thing where I may be relocating sometime this month. A stable shipping address would be helpful. 739584;1404239147;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, mp_a_colonia: where i live, pawn shops are very peculiar places, where nothing is priced remotely close to what any sane person would pay. probably just cash laundries. << College towns tend to have saner pricing. Mix of broke students with nice stuff from their relatives and people who want bling, but can't pay mall prices. 739585;1404239216;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: around here, college students (for some reason) don't pawn. 739586;1404239249;asciilifeform;западло. (déclassé) 739587;1404239286;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, there's a differences between college towns and towns will colleges. A proper college town is the only thing resembling civilization for ~50 miles around. 739588;1404239313;BingoBoingo;College students embeded in towns that could otherwise stand on their own behave differently. 739589;1404239414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4135 @ 0.00082148 = 3.3968 BTC [-] 739590;1404239711;mthreat;argentina won 739591;1404239755;mthreat;batshit insane here 739592;1404240334;asciilifeform;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/millions-of-dymanic-dns-users-suffer-after-microsoft-seizes-no-ip-domains << 'your' dns - isn't. 739593;1404240335;assbot;Millions of dynamic DNS users suffer after Microsoft seizes No-IP domains | Ars Technica 739594;1404240390;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00082229 = 8.5929 BTC [+] 739595;1404240672;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2014#739187 ;) 739596;1404240672;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 739597;1404240696;asciilifeform;aha. 739598;1404240868;rithm;MIRCEA! 739599;1404240886;rithm;I MISSED YOU AND I'M SO SAD NOW 739600;1404240920;Apocalyptic;*NAO 739601;1404240923;rithm;what's he doing taking a vacation to auschwitz or something? 739602;1404240937;rithm;seeing how many dirty gypsies he can fit in an single vw's bus ashtray 739603;1404240958;rithm;that's my first guess 739604;1404241001;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00082414 = 10.549 BTC [+] {2} 739605;1404241022;ThickAsThieves;he's gassing the gypsies now? 739606;1404241040;rithm;that's the rumor i heard on twitter 739607;1404241047;rithm;sorry i misplaced the link 739608;1404242853;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.999 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 18.66513193 BTC. Current weight: 50,003. 739609;1404242968;pankkake;;;view 739610;1404242970;gribble;#20964 Tue Jul 1 15:25:53 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) || #20965 Tue Jul 1 15:28:35 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 TB @ 25 EUR (Up to 6x1.5TB and 4x750GB hard drives #eu only because heavy objects, I prefer grouped order) 739611;1404243471;BingoBoingo;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/01/1538226/baton-bob-strikes-back-against-police-that-coerced-facebook-post-from-him 739612;1404243472;assbot;Baton Bob Strikes Back Against Police That Coerced Facebook Post From Him - Slashdot 739613;1404243806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00082437 = 9.5627 BTC [+] {2} 739614;1404244730;ThickAsThieves;SR auction coins moved to 1 addy 739615;1404244786;ThickAsThieves;https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi 739616;1404244787;assbot;Adresse Bitcoin 1a8LDh3qtCdMFAgRXzMrdvB8w1EG4h1Xi 739617;1404244796;ThickAsThieves;sry for french link 739618;1404244807;ThickAsThieves;you know how blockchain.info is... 739619;1404245329;FabianB;$traded 739620;1404245330;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY S.MPOE X.EUR 739621;1404245344;FabianB;;;calc 1/0.00153846 739622;1404245344;gribble;650.000650001 739623;1404245353;FabianB;;;ticker --currency eur --last 739624;1404245355;gribble;478.074 739625;1404245978;asciilifeform;http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/30/ap-automated-stories/11799077 739626;1404245978;assbot;How robots will write earnings stories for the AP 739627;1404246083;ThickAsThieves;http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nadasurf/robot.html 739628;1404246084;assbot;NADA SURF LYRICS - Robot 739629;1404246226;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 739630;1404246228;gribble;Current Blocks: 308781 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1682 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15617098179.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.14312 739631;1404246456;Mats_cd03;;;nethash 739632;1404246457;gribble;116068991.594 739633;1404246494;ThickAsThieves;http://www.usmarshals.gov/news/chron/2013/041213.htm 739634;1404246494;assbot;U.S. Marshals Selling Russian Spy House in New Jersey 739635;1404246509;ThickAsThieves;they got spy passports on the auction deets 739636;1404246627;mike_c;!s spy house new jersey 739637;1404246628;assbot;0 results for 'spy+house+new+jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy%2Bhouse%2Bnew%2Bjersey 739638;1404246673;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00082529 = 16.2995 BTC [+] {3} 739639;1404246698;mike_c;!s Spy House New Jersey 739640;1404246698;assbot;0 results for 'Spy+House+New+Jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Spy%2BHouse%2BNew%2BJersey 739641;1404246708;mike_c;interesting 739642;1404246711;mike_c;search fail 739643;1404246724;mike_c;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Spy+House+New+Jersey 739644;1404246725;assbot;1 results for 'Spy House New Jersey' - #bitcoin-assets search 739645;1404246742;mike_c;kakobrekla: url encoding problem? 739646;1404246774;ThickAsThieves;heh 739647;1404247383;kakobrekla;i think you need to use double 739648;1404247413;mike_c;!s "spy house in new jersey" 739649;1404247413;assbot;1 results for '"spy+house+in+new+jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy%2Bhouse%2Bin%2Bnew%2Bjersey%22 739650;1404247427;kakobrekla;dunno 739651;1404247437;kakobrekla;how is it url encoding problem 739652;1404247444;kakobrekla;? 739653;1404247445;mike_c;space is going to %2B instead of + 739654;1404247480;kakobrekla;yeah but when i open the url i get "spy+house+in+new+jersey" in the search 739655;1404247489;mike_c;browser fixes it 739656;1404247503;kakobrekla;the search does 739657;1404247503;mike_c;but results are wrong cuz your fetcher doesn't. 739658;1404247526;kakobrekla;whit 739659;1404247532;kakobrekla;im seeing only i result 739660;1404247534;kakobrekla;like it sez 739661;1404247539;kakobrekla;eh i = 1 739662;1404247540;mike_c;it says 0 739663;1404247541;nubbins`;[18:00:30] <+mike_c> !s spy house new jersey 739664;1404247541;nubbins`;[18:00:32] <@assbot> 0 results for 'spy+house+new+jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy%2Bhouse%2Bnew%2Bjersey 739665;1404247542;assbot;0 results for 'spy+house+new+jersey' - #bitcoin-assets search 739666;1404247558;kakobrekla; !s "spy house in new jersey" 739667;1404247558;kakobrekla; 1 results for '"spy+house+in+new+jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy%2Bhouse%2Bin%2Bnew%2Bjersey%22 739668;1404247558;assbot;1 results for '"spy+house+in+new+jersey"' - #bitcoin-assets search 739669;1404247562;nubbins`;space -> + -> %2B 739670;1404247589;nubbins`;ooo 739671;1404247608;nubbins`;!s cuz your fetcher 739672;1404247609;assbot;0 results for 'cuz+your+fetcher' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cuz%2Byour%2Bfetcher 739673;1404247615;nubbins`;!s "cuz your fetcher" 739674;1404247615;assbot;0 results for '"cuz+your+fetcher"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22cuz%2Byour%2Bfetcher%22 739675;1404247623;*;nubbins` shrugs 739676;1404247707;kakobrekla;it _is_ 0,... 739677;1404247726;mike_c;!s spy house jersey 739678;1404247727;assbot;0 results for 'spy+house+jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy%2Bhouse%2Bjersey 739679;1404247731;mike_c;!s "spy house jersey" 739680;1404247731;assbot;0 results for '"spy+house+jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy%2Bhouse%2Bjersey%22 739681;1404247736;mike_c;^ those aren't 0 739682;1404247740;kakobrekla;how are they not 739683;1404247752;mike_c;or at least the first isn't 739684;1404247764;kakobrekla;i get No results for ""spy+house+jersey"" and No results for "spy+house+jersey" 739685;1404247770;mike_c;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey 739686;1404247771;assbot;1 results for 'spy house jersey' - #bitcoin-assets search 739687;1404247775;mike_c;^ 1 result. 739688;1404247783;kakobrekla;ok so? 739689;1404247787;kakobrekla;it sez its 1 739690;1404247788;mike_c;1 > 0. 739691;1404247798;mike_c;how come !s can't do it? 739692;1404247827;mike_c;because the space is being double-url encoded instead of single url-encoded 739693;1404247862;mike_c;urlencode(' ') = '+' 739694;1404247867;kakobrekla;i think the space is just replaced with + 739695;1404247871;mike_c;urlencode(urlencode(' ')) = %2B 739696;1404247888;kakobrekla;dunno i just woke up, half of my brain is off 739697;1404247892;kakobrekla;brb 10min 739698;1404247893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00082128 = 16.1792 BTC [-] {2} 739699;1404248259;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4170 @ 0.00082076 = 3.4226 BTC [-] 739700;1404248494;Duffer1;no bitbet yet on the average price of they silk road buy? 739701;1404248532;ThickAsThieves;it's closed 739702;1404248539;ThickAsThieves;awaiting elusive result 739703;1404248548;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 739704;1404248548;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 4 days 21 hours ago 739705;1404248552;Duffer1;that won't stop leaks, but i suppose those will be hard to verify 739706;1404248607;Duffer1;i would have though NO would be the overwhelming favorite 739707;1404248610;Duffer1;thought 739708;1404248625;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00082148 = 8.0505 BTC [+] {3} 739709;1404248680;ThickAsThieves;meanwhile ltc keeps bleeding 739710;1404248702;Duffer1;but but faster confirms!112345 739711;1404248734;ThickAsThieves;mp tell us what you paid for the auction coinz! 739712;1404248748;rithm;mastercard won the auction obv 739713;1404248768;Duffer1;400ish imo 739714;1404248776;ThickAsThieves;yer nuts 739715;1404248783;Duffer1;300? 739716;1404248790;ThickAsThieves;650-750 739717;1404248832;rithm;maybe it was overstock and they decided to go full derp on their business model 739718;1404248838;rithm;and buy overstocked bitcoins 739719;1404249050;benkay;;;gettrust kelticfox 739720;1404249050;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user kelticfox: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=kelticfox | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kelticfox | Rated since: Sun Nov 4 19:04:42 2012 739721;1404249088;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves:SR auction coins moved to 1 addy << whoa 739722;1404249160;ThickAsThieves;USMS confirms 1 winner 739723;1404249197;bitcoinpete;gotta be 800 per 739724;1404249197;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, do you have a link ? 739725;1404249200;pankkake;source? 739726;1404249233;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-one-auction-bidder-claimed-all-30000-silk-road-bitcoins/ 739727;1404249233;assbot;US Marshals: One Auction Bidder Claimed All 30,000 Silk Road Bitcoins 739728;1404249250;pankkake;:o 739729;1404249519;ThickAsThieves;so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed 739730;1404249541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10248 @ 0.000826 = 8.4648 BTC [+] 739731;1404249632;ThickAsThieves;hah and then twitter wont let you tweet it again! 739732;1404249635;ThickAsThieves;fukn scam 739733;1404249698;ThickAsThieves;how am i sposed to give ripple a hard time like this? 739734;1404249709;kakobrekla;add some padding to you next message 739735;1404249795;kakobrekla;!s spy house jersey 739736;1404249796;assbot;1 results for 'spy house jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey 739737;1404249818;ThickAsThieves;!s kakobrekla slander 739738;1404249818;assbot;41 results for 'kakobrekla slander' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=kakobrekla+slander 739739;1404249831;ThickAsThieves;slandiferous 739740;1404249855;kakobrekla;is this fixed or not ? previously i replaced space with +, now its space 739741;1404249887;benkay;!s from: kakobrekla slander 739742;1404249888;assbot;2 results for 'from: kakobrekla slander' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+kakobrekla+slander 739743;1404249908;kakobrekla;!s from:kakobrekla slander 739744;1404249909;assbot;29 results for 'from:kakobrekla slander' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Akakobrekla+slander 739745;1404249911;benkay;!s from: ninjashogun venture 739746;1404249911;assbot;0 results for 'from: ninjashogun venture' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+ninjashogun+venture 739747;1404249917;benkay;!s from: ninjashogun raise 739748;1404249917;assbot;0 results for 'from: ninjashogun raise' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+ninjashogun+raise 739749;1404249917;kakobrekla;from doesnt take space 739750;1404249923;benkay;!s from:ninjashogun raise 739751;1404249924;assbot;9 results for 'from:ninjashogun raise' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aninjashogun+raise 739752;1404249937;benkay;that's kinda irritating, as tab-completes look backwards to the last space. 739753;1404249940;ThickAsThieves;i know what i'll do, if people pull this tweet disoassociation trick, i'll just make my next tweet worse 739754;1404249952;ThickAsThieves;antifragility in yo face 739755;1404249979;mthreat;;;tslb 739756;1404249982;mthreat;!tslb 739757;1404249987;gribble;Time since last block: 28 minutes and 4 seconds 739758;1404250004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0008199 = 7.2151 BTC [-] {2} 739759;1404250011;pankkake;lol twittos are really insecure if they do that 739760;1404250019;kakobrekla;!s "spy house jersey" 739761;1404250019;assbot;0 results for '"spy house jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy+house+jersey%22 739762;1404250034;kakobrekla;!s "spy house in jersey" 739763;1404250035;assbot;0 results for '"spy house in jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy+house+in+jersey%22 739764;1404250037;kakobrekla;!s "spy house in new jersey" 739765;1404250037;assbot;1 results for '"spy house in new jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy+house+in+new+jersey%22 739766;1404250049;kakobrekla;!s "spy house +jersey" 739767;1404250050;assbot;0 results for '"spy house +jersey"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy+house+%2Bjersey%22 739768;1404250059;kakobrekla;!s "spy house" +jersey 739769;1404250059;assbot;1 results for '"spy house" +jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22spy+house%22+%2Bjersey 739770;1404250065;kakobrekla;thar 739771;1404250220;kakobrekla;ah mike is gone now. 739772;1404250244;kakobrekla;;;later tell mike_c is the search satisfactory now? 739773;1404250245;gribble;The operation succeeded. 739774;1404250346;benkay;user acceptance testing 739775;1404250362;ThickAsThieves;http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/01/bitauth-for-decentralized-authentication.html 739776;1404250363;assbot;BitAuth, for Decentralized Authentication | The BitPay Blog 739777;1404250366;benkay;http://i.imgur.com/rZ9KzEG.gif 739778;1404250383;benkay;i built it first. 739779;1404250387;benkay;and mine uses gpg. 739780;1404250414;benkay;aaaand mine's not public either. 739781;1404250416;benkay;so TBBBBBTH 739782;1404250434;ThickAsThieves;the public thanks you for your contribution 739783;1404250493;benkay;oh you will 739784;1404250510;benkay;jusssst youuuuu wait. 739785;1404250614;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16011 @ 0.00081986 = 13.1268 BTC [-] {2} 739786;1404250872;ThickAsThieves;there i emailed the USMS 739787;1404250913;ThickAsThieves;http://www.streetinsider.com/Forex/Winklevoss+Bitcoin+Trust+Plans+to+List+on+Nasdaq+Under+COIN/9629980.html 739788;1404251218;BingoBoingo;%t 739789;1404251220;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 222 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 23k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 739790;1404251223;BingoBoingo;%diff 739791;1404251226;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 429985.92 in 995 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -15.94 739792;1404251230;BingoBoingo;%ob 739793;1404251231;atcbot;57k@272 58k@250 10k@222 | 907k@199 750k@175 216k@160 739794;1404251570;mike_c;!s spy house jersey 739795;1404251570;assbot;1 results for 'spy house jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey 739796;1404251577;mike_c;ah, much better. thx kakobrekla. 739797;1404251597;mike_c;tomorrow there will be 200 results. 739798;1404251695;kakobrekla;lol true 739799;1404251709;kakobrekla;should prolly exclude the lines that start with !s or smth 739800;1404252865;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/484065087301246976 739801;1404252866;assbot;BREAKING: Google buys Songza streaming music service for undisclosed amount. /search?q=%24GOOG&src=ctag 739802;1404252879;bitcoinpete;or infinity billion 739803;1404252896;bitcoinpete;i actually use songza a bit 739804;1404252900;bitcoinpete;handy thing 739805;1404253204;bitstein;Good to know. I use Google Music all the time, so I'll be expecting nice things. 739806;1404253234;bitcoinpete;https://blockchain.info << cloudflare time! 739807;1404253294;bitcoinpete;bitstein: hm $10/mo.. spendy 739808;1404253349;bitstein;Well, I got in when it started, so $7,99. I listen to a lot of music, and I use it on my phone. It's much easier than having to torrent everything. 739809;1404253383;bitcoinpete;cool 739810;1404253393;bitcoinpete;i'm off to the pool party 739811;1404253397;bitcoinpete;ciao! 739812;1404253421;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13005 @ 0.00082168 = 10.6859 BTC [+] 739813;1404253787;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082168 = 3.1224 BTC [+] 739814;1404254092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03499934 = 0.63 BTC [+] 739815;1404254153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.03499934 = 0.945 BTC [+] 739816;1404254946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00082003 = 13.0385 BTC [-] {4} 739817;1404256365;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 739818;1404256368;gribble;Current Blocks: 308801 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1662 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15784797253.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.14601 739819;1404256427;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/37HY1M5.txt 739820;1404256459;kakobrekla;if anyone is particularly interested, i looked into why a negative prefix appears in the statement at the gain spec 739821;1404256475;kakobrekla;its because 'giveafuck' setting is enabled. 739822;1404256583;benkay;if no giveafuck, gains are always positive? 739823;1404256603;kakobrekla;that seems to be the case. 739824;1404256668;kakobrekla;!up pi07r 739825;1404256671;kakobrekla;!up Pilate 739826;1404256688;kakobrekla;did anyone of you email me? 739827;1404256716;kakobrekla;!up paxtoncamaro91 739828;1404256717;kakobrekla;maybe you 739829;1404257026;paxtoncamaro91;not me 739830;1404257056;kakobrekla;benkay well ok, not _always_, but mostly. 739831;1404257082;kakobrekla;nevermind then paxtoncamaro91 enjoy the free voice 739832;1404257094;paxtoncamaro91;ty 739833;1404257361;benkay;kakobrekla dear sir what has this 'giveafuck' setting? 739834;1404257375;benkay;is this similar to the mongodb "don't shit your pants" setting? 739835;1404257443;kakobrekla;the mentality of the expert system 739836;1404257874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00082175 = 3.0405 BTC [+] 739837;1404258789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00082207 = 5.027 BTC [+] 739838;1404259040;assbot;jonvaage +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 739839;1404259047;BingoBoingo;!up jonvaage 739840;1404259086;jonvaage;Thanks, I guess I need a better connection to assbot to give myself voice. 739841;1404259164;BingoBoingo;Maybe? 739842;1404259564;jonvaage;My hunch is that I need a rating from someone assbot has rated. 739843;1404259614;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: Well, that is how it works 739844;1404259630;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust assbot jonvaage 739845;1404259630;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask jonvaage!~jonvaage@108-61-56-203ch.openskytelcom.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user jonvaage: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=jonvaage | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jonvaage | Rated since: Mon Jun 30 03:00:06 2014 739846;1404259671;BingoBoingo;;;rate jonvaage 1 loaning #b-a +v 739847;1404259673;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jonvaage has been recorded. 739848;1404259673;jonvaage;Got it. 739849;1404259706;BingoBoingo;jonvaage: I'm going to send you down since you can self voice nao 739850;1404259710;BingoBoingo;!down jonvaage 739851;1404259814;jonvaage;There we go. Thanks, BingoBoingo 739852;1404259919;BingoBoingo;You're welcome 739853;1404260070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9682 @ 0.00082207 = 7.9593 BTC [+] 739854;1404260211;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/01/june-combined-trading-statement/ 739855;1404260212;assbot;June Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog 739856;1404260375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.0008181 = 8.7128 BTC [-] {3} 739857;1404260500;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/01/june-combined-trading-statement/ 739858;1404260746;BingoBoingo;mike_c: There's a surprise in the statement you may want to insert into your tracker... 739859;1404260749;BingoBoingo;!mpif 739860;1404260750;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021756 BTC (Total: 435.13 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 739861;1404260763;mike_c;the addl capital? 739862;1404260801;mike_c;yeah, i'll update the balances and everything when all the statements get in. 739863;1404260845;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Yeah 739864;1404261291;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6203 @ 0.00082265 = 5.1029 BTC [+] {2} 739865;1404261751;BingoBoingo;%t 739866;1404261752;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 250 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 33k High: 222 Low: 199 VWAP: 205 739867;1404261766;BingoBoingo;%diff 739868;1404261767;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 447913.20 in 934 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -12.43 739869;1404261900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00082428 = 2.308 BTC [+] 739870;1404263330;BingoBoingo;!jd 739871;1404263330;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered 739872;1404264219;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00082428 = 14.0128 BTC [+] {2} 739873;1404265499;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082431 = 4.8634 BTC [+] 739874;1404265587;jborkl;first stage of remote address and balance query www.bcoinnews.com/addr 739875;1404265588;BingoBoingo;https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/whose-redbook-why-everyone-should-be-concerned-seizure-myredbookcom 739876;1404265589;assbot;Whose RedBook? Why Everyone Should be Concerned By the Seizure of MyRedBook.Com | Electronic Frontier Foundation 739877;1404265905;decimation;ascii, this is proof of the point you made the other day. If USG finds a website for 'hos intolerable, how much more intolerable would a "private army" be? 739878;1404265987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.034 = 3.4 BTC [-] {3} 739879;1404266842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082434 = 3.1325 BTC [+] {2} 739880;1404268055;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 739881;1404268061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00082718 = 11.87 BTC [+] {2} 739882;1404268062;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 641.11, vol: 9409.31340585 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 630.983, vol: 10569.31677 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 643.3, vol: 17456.11694787 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 641.965779, vol: 13701.52560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 638.0, vol: 13.74856305 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 642.819, vol: 119.20508553 | Volume-weighted last average: 639.999779747 739883;1404268063;BingoBoingo;;;more 739884;1404268063;gribble;Error: That's all, there is no more. 739885;1404268083;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market USMS 739886;1404268083;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all' 739887;1404268094;BingoBoingo;%t 739888;1404268096;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 250 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 33k High: 222 Low: 199 VWAP: 205 739889;1404268099;BingoBoingo;%d 739890;1404268101;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 457849.92 in 902 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -10.49 739891;1404268143;BingoBoingo;I wonder how much of this hashpower coming onto ATC is simply to help WoL's game of the week progress in a timely manner? 739892;1404268179;kyuupichan;BTC blocks are very slow since the retarget 739893;1404268235;thestringpuller;btc? 739894;1404268237;thestringpuller;or atc? 739895;1404268247;thestringpuller;;;tslb 739896;1404268262;gribble;Time since last block: 4 minutes and 47 seconds 739897;1404268277;kakobrekla;!up ninjashogun 739898;1404268280;*;kakobrekla brb. 739899;1404268304;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: ATC 739900;1404268957;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/block-transaction-explorer-added/ 739901;1404269220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00082719 = 5.4595 BTC [+] 739902;1404269281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.185 = 2.035 BTC [-] 739903;1404269645;BingoBoingo;!t h AM1 739904;1404269650;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.18175000 / 0.18687414 / 0.19987596 (32 shares, 5.97997235 BTC), 7D: 0.18175000 / 0.19663758 / 0.22789000 (372 shares, 73.14917818 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.22654672 / 0.32900000 (3827 shares, 866.99428805 BTC) 739905;1404270016;BingoBoingo;!up Namworld 739906;1404270020;BingoBoingo;!up pactr 739907;1404270025;BingoBoingo;!up AusBitBank 739908;1404270029;BingoBoingo;!up stickie 739909;1404270036;BingoBoingo;!up Adohgg 739910;1404270042;BingoBoingo;!up chax 739911;1404270186;stickie;;) 739912;1404270199;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00082395 = 1.3183 BTC [-] 739913;1404270331;BingoBoingo;Welcome everybody 739914;1404270389;Namworld;Hello 739915;1404270416;Namworld;Just came around to leave someone a message. I'm heading right back offline. 739916;1404270453;Namworld;I might be a bit on and off for the next week or two. Going to move out to a new place. 739917;1404270504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18305 = 0.7322 BTC [+] {2} 739918;1404270548;BingoBoingo;Cool, good lick 739919;1404270552;BingoBoingo;*luck 739920;1404270565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.18184697 = 7.8194 BTC [-] {7} 739921;1404270566;BingoBoingo;Or whatever the ettiquette is in your new locale 739922;1404270656;Namworld;idk, not sure we have an etiquette at all... 739923;1404270672;BingoBoingo;Only one way to find out... 739924;1404270720;Namworld;I'll look on the reverse for it. 739925;1404270864;BingoBoingo;Miracle brought to us by Bitcoin: Computers that can torrent the blockchain faster than they can import it from disk 739926;1404270896;Namworld;What? 739927;1404271108;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Oh, just setting up a machine as a node. Downloaded the blockchain by torrent in about an hour. It's on hour six of importing the blackchain into Bitcoind and still has the better part of 2013 to get through. 739928;1404271140;Namworld;sheesh 739929;1404271151;Namworld;Anyway, I'm off to sleep. 739930;1404271154;Namworld;Goodnight all 739931;1404271611;BingoBoingo;Looks like life might go extinct https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/10/ 739932;1404271612;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 739933;1404271691;BingoBoingo;http://gigaom.com/2014/06/30/the-dark-side-of-io-how-the-u-k-is-making-web-domain-profits-from-a-shady-cold-war-land-deal/ 739934;1404271693;assbot;The dark side of .io: How the U.K. is making web domain profits from a shady Cold War land deal — Tech News and Analysis 739935;1404271825;mike_c;wow, the death bombs have been brutal 739936;1404271862;BingoBoingo;Yeah, Life doesn't seem to have been fated to take this round 739937;1404272190;ThickAsThieves;can we have orange & black WoL for Halloween? 739938;1404272199;mike_c;definitely 739939;1404272212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8847 @ 0.00082315 = 7.2824 BTC [-] {2} 739940;1404272247;kyuupichan;http://cryptocrimson.com/2014/07/us-marshals-mistake-causes-bitcoin-fund-lose-100-btc/ 739941;1404272248;assbot;US Marshals Mistake Causes Bitcoin Fund To Lose 100 BTC 739942;1404272279;BingoBoingo;I rather like the purple and gold. Very regal. 739943;1404272370;ThickAsThieves;kyuupichan: lol 739944;1404273128;BingoBoingo;http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-26/rich-amish-lured-into-florida-land-investment-scheme 739945;1404273128;assbot;Rich Amish Lured Into Florida Land Investment Scheme - Businessweek 739946;1404273297;BingoBoingo;!up Vallance 739947;1404273306;BingoBoingo;!up RagnarsBitch 739948;1404273378;Vallance;How's it going? 739949;1404273438;BingoBoingo;Not bad 739950;1404273516;BingoBoingo;"Right away, Crill learned that Moffitt was selling securities without having registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. So he set up a meeting with Moffitt and Paul Smucker, one of the main Amish investors, at Smuckers house in Lancaster." 739951;1404273655;BingoBoingo;"They directed more than one company involved to send a rescission offer to all the investorsa multipage document telling them they could choose to immediately recoup their money, with 6 percent interest, if they pulled out. The rescission offer revealed a dire fiscal situation." 739952;1404273684;BingoBoingo;"According to the balance sheets of one company, Mofco Group, $1.2 million had been spent on site construction and $3.3 million on other development costs, and yet the site in Bushnell lay essentially empty. More important, there was only $65,541 cash on hand; most of the $15 million-plus that Moffitt had raised was gone. " 739953;1404274360;BingoBoingo;"An Amish friend unconnected to the Florida Thing once said to me, You think your life is complicated and ours is simple, but its the opposite. You just take everything as it comes. Were constantly having to figure out what to do with new things. As an Amish man told Donald Kraybill, The Amish survived persecution in Europe, but Im not sure theyll be able to survive prosperity." 739954;1404274365;BingoBoingo;!up AndChat|679296 739955;1404274530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00081877 = 3.4798 BTC [-] 739956;1404274585;BingoBoingo;%t 739957;1404274586;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 300 Last Price: 226 24h-Vol: 586k High: 300 Low: 199 VWAP: 277 739958;1404274617;BingoBoingo;OMFG! Did the F.MPIF PC1 statement really move the ATC market that much??? 739959;1404274627;Apocalyptic;looks like BingoBoingo 739960;1404274652;Apocalyptic;no ask depth 739961;1404274804;BingoBoingo;Well, things happen... 739962;1404274822;BingoBoingo;%ob 739963;1404274824;atcbot;39k@330 30k@320 30k@300 | 47k@226 907k@199 750k@175 739964;1404274913;BingoBoingo;;;later tell artifexd You interested in further business??? 739965;1404274913;gribble;The operation succeeded. 739966;1404274934;ThickAsThieves;WTB ATC in bulk, pm 739967;1404274937;ThickAsThieves;;) 739968;1404274949;BingoBoingo;lol 739969;1404275030;BingoBoingo;I remember what happened last time I tried to crush a bubble. If mother fuckers want to burn themselves out, I can wait this time. 739970;1404275092;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/ScottWuerz/status/484175770974052353 739971;1404275095;assbot;If I was pitching, after Sandoval shook his first 'round the bases after homering for the 1st time in a month, somebody's getting a bruise. 739972;1404275912;benkay; first stage of remote address and balance query www.bcoinnews.com/addr // pardon? 739973;1404276306;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl 739974;1404276320;BingoBoingo;benkay: How is the bedtime mandate working out? 739975;1404276331;jborkl;Thank you 739976;1404276393;jborkl;To find out about a bitcoin address that is not yours is a challenge 739977;1404276440;jborkl;So that is the first part, about a week and it will complete 739978;1404276980;BingoBoingo;!up Poffertje 739979;1404277699;BingoBoingo;!mpif 739980;1404277700;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 739981;1404278129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10740 @ 0.00081877 = 8.7936 BTC [-] 739982;1404278373;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3944 @ 0.00081801 = 3.2262 BTC [-] 739983;1404280691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13143 @ 0.00081788 = 10.7494 BTC [-] {2} 739984;1404280752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12296 @ 0.0008176 = 10.0532 BTC [-] {2} 739985;1404280989;BingoBoingo;http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6976006/if-beer-could-talk 739986;1404280990;assbot;If Beer Could Talk - CollegeHumor Post 739987;1404280996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5500 @ 0.0003476 = 1.9118 BTC [+] {9} 739988;1404281006;BingoBoingo;"You 739989;1404281007;BingoBoingo;ENOUGH! What is wrong with you all? All I want is a drink that gets me drunk, doesn't taste like water, and doesn't fill me up so fast I start to hate it halfway through. Is that really too much to ask? 739990;1404281007;BingoBoingo;Jim Beam 739991;1404281007;BingoBoingo;Step into my office, son. 739992;1404281007;BingoBoingo;" 739993;1404281119;BingoBoingo;%diff 739994;1404281120;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 474760.46 in 834 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -7.18 739995;1404281806;BingoBoingo;!up Clue_ 739996;1404282338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00081877 = 1.9241 BTC [+] 739997;1404284961;punkman;http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/community-renewed-by-yahoo-for-sixth-season-movie-to-follow 739998;1404284961;assbot;Community renewed by Yahoo for sixth season; movie to follow? 739999;1404284972;punkman;Yahoo: now with dying TV shows 740000;1404285168;BingoBoingo;punkman: Everyone know that Yahoo's brand of death only welcomes other members of the dead 740001;1404285514;punkman;BingoBoingo: I wonder how many people still pay $299 to be listed in the Yahoo Directory 740002;1404285573;BingoBoingo;punkman: In three years, once the blog has been living on its own hardware for a while... That might be the time to throw Yahoo some pity pennies. 740003;1404285968;BingoBoingo;Yahoo might actually be a more accomplished internet troll than Weev. 740004;1404286536;cazalla;it wasn't a bad paid link back in the day 740005;1404286557;cazalla;yahoo + dmoz was some good link juice 740006;1404286566;BingoBoingo;Indeed, but that was then. 740007;1404286594;cazalla;plus they would forget to remove the link after you paid for a year so it was typically a one off payment for perma link 740008;1404286598;BingoBoingo;Now the "search engine leader" drops weight from nearly any link more than 3 or 4 years old. 740009;1404286948;punkman;"On September 18, 2012, following years of negotiations, Yahoo agreed to sell a 20% stake back to Alibaba for $7.6 billion." 740010;1404286980;punkman;how much will that 20% be worth when Alibaba IPOs 740011;1404287030;punkman;40% stake in Alibaba was probably the only good thing in their portfolio 740012;1404287130;BingoBoingo;For sure 740013;1404287191;punkman;"potential $221 billion valuation for Alibaba post-IPO." > so around $45 billion 740014;1404287201;punkman;they still have some left 740015;1404287226;BingoBoingo;Alibaba might actually have a greater value than google 740016;1404287241;punkman;yeah but it's such a shithole 740017;1404287248;BingoBoingo;Since this site has been linked before http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/index.php/topic/24923-college-degrees-expertise/ << moar credentials than all of reddit 740018;1404287250;assbot;College Degrees / Expertise? - Small Talk - Crazy Talk: The Crazymeds Forum 740019;1404287259;BingoBoingo;punkman: But Alibaba actually moves shit 740020;1404287298;BingoBoingo;Alibaba is to small businesses what warehouse stores used to be 740021;1404287319;BingoBoingo;And then there's what it is for larger businesses 740022;1404287340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.0355 = 2.485 BTC [+] {2} 740023;1404287462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.0355 = 1.704 BTC [+] 740024;1404287489;BingoBoingo;;;later tell bitstein What is up with the Satoshi institute surrendering to Disqus??? 740025;1404287490;gribble;The operation succeeded. 740026;1404287492;punkman;and then there's the planned IPO, which might be the biggest IPO yet on NYSE 740027;1404287520;BingoBoingo;punkman: Well look what alibaba does compared to what Google or Facebook does. 740028;1404287538;punkman;yeah I'm with you 740029;1404287539;BingoBoingo;The later two traffic information. Alibaba enables and smooths actual commerce. 740030;1404287548;punkman;Alibaba does everything 740031;1404287571;BingoBoingo;Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit. 740032;1404287610;BingoBoingo;Then yes, alibaba exapands into everything, provided there is an opportunity for them to take a cut of the action. 740033;1404287938;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 740034;1404287939;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.91, Best ask: 646.45, Bid-ask spread: 2.54000, Last trade: 643.26, 24 hour volume: 7923.31032274, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 648.69748606 740035;1404288104;BingoBoingo;!up HeySteve 740036;1404288108;BingoBoingo;!up manamex 740037;1404288114;BingoBoingo;!up trixisowned 740038;1404288130;trixisowned;:> 740039;1404288142;manamex;:) 740040;1404288148;trixisowned;dump more litecoin 740041;1404288150;trixisowned;its useless 740042;1404288152;trixisowned;why are you holding it 740043;1404288154;trixisowned;if you are 740044;1404288176;punkman;won't find a lot of lite coin here 740045;1404288185;punkman;we like em thick 740046;1404288190;trixisowned;eh i just loling at litecoiners 740047;1404288191;trixisowned;:P 740048;1404288253;BingoBoingo;Eh, I have some on a paper wallet somewhere 740049;1404288287;BingoBoingo;As kind of a hedge against an SHA-2 apocalypse. 740050;1404288306;BingoBoingo;The current litecoin crash really doesn't affect it though. 740051;1404288325;punkman;I got some doge on a retired disk, hoping doge will stop existing so I don't have to ever dig them out 740052;1404288332;BingoBoingo;lol 740053;1404288388;BingoBoingo;That's about the story of altcoins other than Altcoin 740054;1404288490;manamex;is litecoin finally going down? 740055;1404288508;pankkake;BingoBoingo: it makes no sense and I am tired of this argument. … I'll reply to it when I get to finishing that article 740056;1404288555;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Well it sounded like a better idea early last year... Now... Eh 740057;1404288589;BingoBoingo;Maybe eventually I redeem the LTC at 44 satoshis per agains $10k BTC 740058;1404288606;BingoBoingo;ATM even touching them is too much work 740059;1404288647;punkman;lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-07/yahoo-s-alibaba-windfall-means-firepower-to-chase-google.html 740060;1404288648;assbot;Yahoos Alibaba Windfall Means Firepower to Chase Google - Bloomberg 740061;1404288762;BingoBoingo;Shame noone in "business journalism" has the balls to suggest yahoo just sell what it can and return capital to investors. 740062;1404288772;pankkake;lol the litecoin bagholders quickly censored me again 740063;1404288790;punkman;BingoBoingo: need higher number of company 740064;1404288802;pankkake;reddit's censorship is clearly devious; you're never alerted, you don't know who does it, and you only see it by logging out 740065;1404288818;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Eh, they prolly paid more for their LTC than I did 740066;1404288829;punkman;so they will go buy out some random websites and close them down without making a profit 740067;1404288846;BingoBoingo;I say prolly because I dun remember what I bought LTC at 740068;1404288857;BingoBoingo;punkman: Yahoo might as well 740069;1404288867;BingoBoingo;Just close down with what it has. 740070;1404288883;BingoBoingo;Sell what the derps will buy and then... just quit 740071;1404288903;punkman;that'd be better than buying more shoes for Marissa 740072;1404288915;BingoBoingo;Maybe they even sell the Yahoo brand and some other venture lets the media imagine "Yahoo" survived 740073;1404288928;punkman;Yahoo Japan should buy Yahoo 740074;1404288943;BingoBoingo;Maybe Alibaba will buy Yahoo? 740075;1404288950;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/29mh60/ltc_we_stand_to_investors_and_trolls/ oh my god 740076;1404288951;assbot;LTC we stand ! (To investors and trolls) : : litecoin 740077;1404288977;punkman;hmm, yahoo only paid $1 billion for their Alibaba share in 2005 740078;1404288989;punkman;that's some nice profit there 740079;1404289039;BingoBoingo;pankkake: LTC was only ever good as a hedge against an incredibly unlikely threat to BTC, and as a way for people who don't game to justify owning gaming hardware. 740080;1404289078;pankkake;again, no, and that was discussed here before. it does not protect against any threat 740081;1404289098;pankkake;nor is affordable by 13 year old gamers anymore 740082;1404289164;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Last year it seemed like that might be the case for a short time to a n00b 740083;1404289172;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Ying / Yang 740084;1404289173;BingoBoingo;Christians / Protestant 740085;1404289173;BingoBoingo;Suni / Shiite 740086;1404289173;BingoBoingo;Mac / PC 740087;1404289173;BingoBoingo;Coca-cola / Pepsi < as a bare minimum 740245;1404311924;kakobrekla;where did he vanish to? 740246;1404311936;pankkake;;;seen mp_on_a_boat 740247;1404311937;gribble;mp_on_a_boat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: anyway, off i go. late trall! 740248;1404311950;pankkake;;;seen mp_* 740249;1404311958;gribble;mp_* could be mp_a_colonia (20 hours, 14 minutes, and 50 seconds ago), mp_on_a_pony (1 day, 17 hours, 39 minutes, and 46 seconds ago), or mp_on_a_boat (1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 32 seconds ago) 740250;1404311960;kakobrekla;they have boats there? 740251;1404312001;ThickAsThieves;btw Blockchain users can use http://blockchain.com to access wallets, while we resolve the .info domain problems 740252;1404312001;assbot;Bitcoin Block Explorer - Blockchain.info 740253;1404312013;artifexd;;;ident ThickAsThieves 740254;1404312013;gribble;Nick 'ThickAsThieves', with hostmask 'ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk 740255;1404312017;mthreat;colonia is in uruguay, across the river from buenos aires 740256;1404312019;artifexd;;;rated ThickAsThieves 740257;1404312019;gribble;You have not yet rated user ThickAsThieves 740258;1404312023;artifexd;... 740259;1404312026;kakobrekla;o so they finally got the .com 740260;1404312031;kakobrekla;amazing 740261;1404312031;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 740262;1404312052;pankkake;how you can trust it's really them? 740263;1404312076;kakobrekla;good pointz 740264;1404312210;xmj;;;rated fluffypony 740265;1404312211;gribble;You have not yet rated user fluffypony 740266;1404312252;xmj;;;rate fluffypony 2 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye. 740267;1404312252;gribble;Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings. 740268;1404312256;xmj;uh what! 740269;1404312273;xmj;what do i do to get to rate someone? 740270;1404312288;mike_c;;;ident xmj 740271;1404312290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03627 = 0.6166 BTC [+] 740272;1404312291;gribble;Nick 'xmj', with hostmask 'xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj', is identified as user 'xmj', with GPG key id FC9E29371B1B0D0B, key fingerprint 224ED70AA3AE3EF123B0CA88FC9E29371B1B0D0B, and bitcoin address None 740273;1404312304;artifexd;;;gettrust xmj 740274;1404312304;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj. Trust relationship from user artifexd to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=artifexd&dest=xmj | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xmj | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014 740275;1404312326;mike_c;ah. you must have net positive ratings to rate other people, right? 740276;1404312334;xmj;benkay: yes 740277;1404312334;artifexd;He does 740278;1404312351;xmj;wait 740279;1404312363;xmj;so, i rate people. that decreases my future ability to rate people ? 740280;1404312380;ThickAsThieves;;;rate artifexd 2 quick and easy OTC ATC 740281;1404312382;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user artifexd has been recorded. 740282;1404312440;xmj;;;rate fluffypony 1 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye. 740283;1404312441;gribble;Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings. 740284;1404312452;artifexd;;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 Long history of doing what he said. And he bought some ATC. 740285;1404312454;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded. 740286;1404312474;xmj;great, so mircea_popescu made me not be able to rate anyone soon 740287;1404312512;thestringpuller;;;ident 740288;1404312512;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None 740289;1404312521;ThickAsThieves;punkman were you saying you are looking for odd programming jobs? I wanna get some Altcoin wallet work done 740290;1404312526;thestringpuller;;;rated ThickAsThieves 740291;1404312527;gribble;You rated user ThickAsThieves on Sat May 3 13:01:40 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Has good taste in hip-hop.. 740292;1404312539;thestringpuller;;;rated mike_c 740293;1404312539;gribble;You have not yet rated user mike_c 740294;1404312541;mike_c;artifexd: you must have positive rating to nanotube 740295;1404312548;mike_c;;;gettrust nanotube xmj 740296;1404312548;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=xmj | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xmj | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014 740297;1404312556;artifexd;Ah 740298;1404312564;davout;thestringpuller: good taste in hip hop sounds like an oxymoron 740299;1404312571;davout;:D 740300;1404312577;artifexd;;;gettrust nanotube mircea_popescu 740301;1404312577;xmj;davout: 2pac 740302;1404312578;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 45 via 31 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 740303;1404312578;thestringpuller;like Daft Punk? 740304;1404312579;thestringpuller;lol 740305;1404312581;punkman;ThickAsThieves: C/C++ not really my thing, but I'd give it a look 740306;1404312596;thestringpuller;;;gettrust nanotube thestringpuller 740307;1404312597;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user thestringpuller: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=thestringpuller | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thestringpuller | Rated since: Mon Oct 15 18:46:37 2012 740308;1404312598;artifexd;mp is the source of xmj's negrating 740309;1404312605;xmj;yeah 740310;1404312610;ThickAsThieves;https://github.com/therealaltcoin/altcoin 740311;1404312611;assbot;therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub 740312;1404312615;xmj;i described how many of the startups use amazon web services. 740313;1404312622;xmj;he didn't like that very much, lol 740314;1404312625;artifexd;;;gettrust nanotube artifexd 740315;1404312626;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask artifexd!sid28611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhyppksdfawgdwyb. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user artifexd: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=artifexd | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=artifexd | Rated since: Wed Mar 5 02:06:14 2014 740316;1404312630;ThickAsThieves;the source is currently more up to date than the packages 740317;1404312653;ThickAsThieves;i'd like a windows wallet made from the source 740318;1404312657;pankkake;xmj: mp replied "no soup for you" 740319;1404312669;xmj;well thats too bad. 740320;1404312673;ThickAsThieves;but also would like to integrate mike_c 's new seeds. subdomain thing 740321;1404312694;mike_c;that would be great.. not sure we ever got the dns sorted. 740322;1404312714;ThickAsThieves;i'm also open to requests from others for features or polish to take care of for ATC stuff 740323;1404312760;artifexd;xmj: See if you can get MagicalTux to posrate you. That would offset mp's negrate. 740324;1404312779;ThickAsThieves;if you want that work and whatever work that probly turns into, lemme know a price or estimate or such 740325;1404312785;xmj;interesting. 740326;1404312863;artifexd;That was a joke. Seriously though, if what mike_c says is correct, then anyone (with a positive rating) on this list could assist: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nanotube&sign=ANY&type=SENT 740327;1404312864;assbot;Rating Details for User 'nanotube' 740328;1404312921;ThickAsThieves;;;rate nanotube 2 thanks for all the tubes! 740329;1404312922;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user nanotube has been recorded. 740330;1404312992;xmj;artifexd: do you know what MT does professionally? 740331;1404313004;artifexd;Are you kidding? 740332;1404313044;mike_c;magicaltux = mark karpeles. 740333;1404313050;artifexd;I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally" 740334;1404313066;pankkake;;;rated MagicalTux 740335;1404313067;gribble;You rated user MagicalTux on Thu Feb 27 08:13:53 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: ate all the coins. 740336;1404313071;artifexd;Using any reasonable definition of "professionally" 740337;1404313082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.03627 = 2.285 BTC [+] 740338;1404313153;artifexd;xmj: Learn to use the WOT. Seriously. 30 seconds of perusing http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=magicaltux would have told you all you need to know. 740339;1404313153;assbot;Rating Details for User 'magicaltux' 740340;1404313176;xmj;hah 740341;1404313179;xmj;i'm bad with names. 740342;1404313204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.037 = 1.924 BTC [+] 740343;1404313241;xmj;artifexd: i'll assume you were trolling when you suggested i make up with him to counter mp's downvote.. 740344;1404313288;artifexd;Trolling? No. Joking? Yeah. Hence my next line started with "That was a joke. Seriously though...." 740345;1404313451;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Facebook Myspace'd" http://bitbet.us/bet/771/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.64011533 BTC. Current weight: 62,414. 740346;1404313533;xmj;artifexd: hrm, it's one of those days, didn't see that. 740347;1404313694;artifexd;No worries. Take a breath. Regroup. Learn to use the tools at your disposal (brain, eyes, wot, google). Come back stronger, better. 740348;1404313763;xmj;heh 740349;1404313787;xmj;I blame myself for drinking tequila with fluffypony yesterday. 740350;1404313875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.037 = 1.147 BTC [+] 740351;1404313997;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00081646 = 8.2054 BTC [-] 740352;1404314148;mircea_popescu;a well that was pretty epic 740353;1404314200;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/AdamDraper/status/484350819526279168 740354;1404314201;assbot;Photo of /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash history happening. http://t.co/qDHNaHY4LC 740355;1404314201;ThickAsThieves;do tell 740356;1404314209;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: voyage? 740357;1404314215;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i met this girl. 740358;1404314301;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete that instagram doesn't load anything for me. what is it ? 740359;1404314318;bitcoinpete;http://instagram.com/p/p8_Hd3yWwo/ 740360;1404314319;assbot;Instagram 740361;1404314328;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin history! 740362;1404314335;ThickAsThieves;amazing history! 740363;1404314335;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 740364;1404314339;mircea_popescu;3 guys in a corner office, that one ? 740365;1404314344;asciilifeform;looks like some fellas in a garrett talking to soviet bureaucrat 740366;1404314345;mircea_popescu;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrjCNgXCQAEDAzJ.jpg < that loads. 740367;1404314347;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: it's tim's kid taking a picture of his dad and two younger … ya 740368;1404314350;ThickAsThieves;thats the auction weiner 740369;1404314357;mircea_popescu;a ok 740370;1404314365;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 740371;1404314365;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.92, Best ask: 654.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 7165.73170950, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.75, 24 hour vwap: 649.402772905 740372;1404314374;mircea_popescu;all that collapse and shit. 740373;1404314390;bitcoinpete;almost $10 again 740374;1404314543;ThickAsThieves;Dow almost 17k 740375;1404314559;ThickAsThieves;SP almost 2k 740376;1404314577;ThickAsThieves;s'all good in the hood 740377;1404314588;mircea_popescu;lol 740378;1404314599;bitcoinpete;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/02/betting-on-big-drop-shorts-borrow-all-the-gopro-stock-they-can/ 740379;1404314599;assbot;Betting On Big Drop, Shorts Borrow All the GoPro Stock They Can - MoneyBeat - WSJ 740380;1404314632;bitcoinpete;"the percentage of shares available to loan that are actually being borrowed–is near 100%," 740381;1404314659;asciilifeform;what is so nice about the camera? 740382;1404314672;bitcoinpete;mostly the accessories 740383;1404314688;bitcoinpete;mounting clips for everything and anything 740384;1404314715;bitcoinpete;add sponsorships, mix, ipo 740385;1404314735;ThickAsThieves;nothing, that's the short answer 740386;1404314777;ThickAsThieves;whole thing could be upheaved by a well-placed kickstarter project 740387;1404314792;mircea_popescu;dem barriers to entry. 740388;1404314798;benkay;no one expects the kickstarter upheaval! 740389;1404314807;mircea_popescu;this is the lulzy thing about "headcount-based" ipos and perception of value : 740390;1404314825;mircea_popescu;it's basically dotcom bubble v2.0. nothing easier to fake than headcount. except perhaps clicks. 740391;1404314849;mircea_popescu;and when i say fake, i include things such as, every year it gets easier and easier to amass headcunt, provided you promise you'll never charge a cent. 740392;1404314873;mircea_popescu;which is exactly what tat's saying : whole thing can now be upheaved by a well placed kickstarter 740393;1404314888;mircea_popescu;that doesn't mean kickstarters are valuable. it just means shit like gopro and airbnb are valueLESS 740394;1404314920;pankkake;most companies I've been in have two kind of headcounts. the real one and the investors one - both being from real data 740395;1404314925;mthreat;gopro sells actual hardware 740396;1404314986;mircea_popescu;mthreat not really. they dropship some gear some azn companies designed, made and assembled. 740397;1404314991;mircea_popescu;much like apple. 740398;1404314993;mthreat;their marketing seems to be similar to red bull (extreme sports marketing) 740399;1404314998;mircea_popescu;ya. 740400;1404315007;mthreat;so red bull just sells sugar + caffeine + water 740401;1404315017;mircea_popescu;the reason that shit works for coca cola (and immitators, a la red bull) 740402;1404315035;ThickAsThieves;however i wouldnt touch GPRO with a 10ft pole, way too many people thinking the same thing at opposite poles 740403;1404315035;mircea_popescu;is that sugared water with some pee in it is really trivial to make, so the entire product is the package. 740404;1404315053;mircea_popescu;this doth not work for anything that's an actual service. to be coca cola you have to be both valueless AND pointless. 740405;1404315057;mircea_popescu;!up Clue 740406;1404315058;ThickAsThieves;all it takes is GS to sum em up and issue a BUY rating at $100 740407;1404315080;ThickAsThieves;squeeze all them shorts and sell out at the same time 740408;1404315096;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you know this polarization problem is perhaps the largest pile of conclusive proof that the official indicators are all fake. 740409;1404315108;mircea_popescu;in general a working economy exists to close the zero-infinity price window 740410;1404315116;mircea_popescu;when that window widens, the economy necessarily is losing contanct. 740411;1404315138;ThickAsThieves;increasing qty of articles about low volume lately 740412;1404315145;ThickAsThieves;just traders trading traders 740413;1404315224;ThickAsThieves;%ticker 740414;1404315225;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 340 Ask: 347 Last Price: 340 24h-Vol: 771k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 287 740415;1404315232;ThickAsThieves;nice 740416;1404315263;ThickAsThieves;%diff 740417;1404315264;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 534763.34 in 616 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 4.55 740418;1404315278;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00081646 = 1.6329 BTC [-] 740419;1404315379;mircea_popescu;wow. atc stabilization ? 740420;1404315385;mircea_popescu;look at that ThickAsThieves your baby lives. 740421;1404315454;ThickAsThieves;WoL can't hurt 740422;1404315521;punkman;oh nice game #10 is finished 740423;1404315526;punkman;should have bought more death 740424;1404315566;mircea_popescu;buy all teh deth. 740425;1404315752;bitcoinpete;"The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday upheld France's ban on wearing full-face veils in public, rejecting arguments that the ban undermines freedoms of religion and expression." 740426;1404315816;mike_c;stabilization is a bit strong. it's been running slow the last couple weeks, and is now running quite fast. 740427;1404315826;mike_c;pool hoppers might be back. 740428;1404315875;mircea_popescu;mike_c im just looking at the diff % 740429;1404315891;mircea_popescu;Est. % Change: 4.55 is what it is. it didn't have a period like this in 3 months 740430;1404315897;mike_c;yeah, it's close to 0 now because (2 weeks slow) + (1 day really fast) = little change 740431;1404315944;mike_c;i am just a lowly merchant wishing for something closer to actual stabilization. but that is unrealistic for a baby coin. 740432;1404315983;mircea_popescu;i thought you were my sock puppet. when did this merchant thing happen 740433;1404315990;mike_c;hehe. sock puppets can have day jobs 740434;1404315996;mircea_popescu;o no wait, that was pankkake. i got the fake identities mixed up 740435;1404316069;mike_c;i had to check. of course, it exists. babycoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389832.0 740436;1404316069;assbot;[IDEA] BabyCoin 740437;1404316100;mircea_popescu;lol 740438;1404316101;mircea_popescu;IDEA 740439;1404316112;mircea_popescu;!up GinAddict1 740440;1404316127;GinAddict1;thanks Mircea 740441;1404316141;GinAddict1;(and everyone else) 740442;1404316143;mircea_popescu;now who miught you be ? 740443;1404316158;GinAddict1;oh, I'm Lawrence from GreenAddress, temporarily using this user in vacation 740444;1404316182;mircea_popescu;aha. welcome. 740445;1404316195;GinAddict1;Hi, thank you! 740446;1404316231;ThickAsThieves;The safer Bitcoin wallet that puts you in control 740447;1404316256;mircea_popescu;!up jonvaage 740448;1404316362;Naphex;o/ 740449;1404316373;GinAddict1;ThickAsThieves: yep - bad/good slogan for a multisig service you reckon? 740450;1404316439;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i don't recal, were we hating this thing 740451;1404316440;mircea_popescu;? 740452;1404316452;GinAddict1;there was a blog post by pete 740453;1404316468;GinAddict1;a bit of hate maybe but we spoke a bit and it was a very reasonable conversation 740454;1404316503;GinAddict1;I actually came here for feedback so it would be great if you had any criticism 740455;1404316504;ThickAsThieves;slogan is okay i suppose 740456;1404316555;GinAddict1;I also wanted to tell Pete that someone is using his blogpost to spread FUD but i see he just got disconnected 740457;1404316559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00081646 = 16.1659 BTC [-] 740458;1404316622;GinAddict1;mircea_popescu: we def had a really bad start, initially there was some marketing/dev mismatch and in our home we even said "Hack proof" when i actually wanted to say "Improved security" 740459;1404316634;GinAddict1;of course nothing is hack proof 740460;1404316644;GinAddict1;maybe death :) 740461;1404316653;mircea_popescu;GinAddict1 so when you say lawrence from greenaddress what do you actualy mean ? you code ? you manage ? you pr ? what ? 740462;1404316675;ThickAsThieves;all, i bet 740463;1404316682;GinAddict1;I'm the founder, I code, I manage, I PR but more than anything I'm a bitcoiner first 740464;1404316683;kakobrekla;i bet, all. 740465;1404316691;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3BQ7Y3E.txt ) 740466;1404316691;ThickAsThieves;!b 5 740467;1404316712;GinAddict1;but coding wise i'm the least contributor 740468;1404316717;GinAddict1;mostly architecture and design 740469;1404316803;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.66972768 BTC to 11`168 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 740470;1404316820;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you gotta bet faster 740471;1404316826;mircea_popescu;ty for gracious donation to ba 740472;1404316901;GinAddict1;what is ba if i may ask? bitcoin average? 740473;1404316917;mircea_popescu;;;topic 740474;1404316917;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 740475;1404316920;mircea_popescu;ya kno ? 740476;1404316923;GinAddict1;oh, sorry, dumb me 740477;1404316958;mircea_popescu;so then who miscomunicated with whom ? 740478;1404317041;GinAddict1;you mean my earlier mention of someone using Pete's blog post? 740479;1404317063;GinAddict1;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29hu4u/greenaddress_hiding_bad_feedback_more_proof_to/ 740480;1404317064;assbot;GreenAddress hiding bad feedback? More proof to point towards it. : Bitcoin 740481;1404317092;mircea_popescu;specifically, " there was some marketing/dev mismatch" 740482;1404317132;GinAddict1;i miscommunicated with my graphic designer and in a table on the home there was a column called Hack proof instead of "Improved security" 740483;1404317146;ThickAsThieves;lol Hearn wins $100k bounty from reddit for software to replace BTCFundnation 740484;1404317147;GinAddict1;english not being first language for neither of us 740485;1404317149;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29n8o0/100000_bounty_winner_announcement/ 740486;1404317149;assbot;$100,000 bounty winner announcement! : Bitcoin 740487;1404317160;ThickAsThieves;with software he was making already anyway 740488;1404317187;mircea_popescu;i c 740489;1404317191;GinAddict1;ThickAsThieves: I saw that, is Mike foundation friendly or? has he agreed? I don't see comments of his in the reddit post 740490;1404317204;ThickAsThieves;Mike has agreed to release the platform as open source before the end of August. He will be awarded $40,000 on completion. After the platform is live, I will put an additional $50,000 towards the first core dev crowdfunding project that gets made on it. This should help them become independent the moment it gets released, and hopefully will start streamlining Bitcoin core development 740491;1404317204;ThickAsThieves;again. 740492;1404317205;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves so reddit pays to replace phlegm with cancer ? 740493;1404317219;ThickAsThieves;$10k goes to the runner up 740494;1404317241;ThickAsThieves;who suggested DAO system on Ethereum 740495;1404317243;ThickAsThieves;lol 740496;1404317292;mircea_popescu;this is so much lol. 740497;1404317333;ThickAsThieves;Does Draper's Purchase of BTC for Vaurum Add to the Total Venture Capital Balance? 740498;1404317335;asciilifeform;Hearn?! 740499;1404317336;mircea_popescu;GinAddict1 mike is the chief enemy plant in bitcoin. he's the guy that merged heartbleed in bitcoin for absolutely no legitimatereason, and he's the guy that forced a hard fork, idem. 740500;1404317340;mircea_popescu;he's basically mata hari. 740501;1404317363;asciilifeform;insult to hari, who was a pretty gurl and added valuez. 740502;1404317372;GinAddict1;mircea_popescu: there's more coming: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4351 740503;1404317374;assbot;Add a getutxos command to the p2p protocol by mikehearn Pull Request #4351 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub 740504;1404317385;GinAddict1;I don't think it is a good idea at all to have it 740505;1404317416;GinAddict1;but according to others core devs it's been narrowed to the point that the obviously harmful stuff is gone 740506;1404317533;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im sure there must be a fatass white boi market somewhere. 740507;1404317535;ThickAsThieves;at it least it aint obviously harmful! 740508;1404317541;ThickAsThieves;high-five! 740509;1404317542;mircea_popescu;don't knock it, whatever the pr0n, someone's rubbing to it. 740510;1404317561;GinAddict1;ThickAsThieves: sigh right? 740511;1404317573;mircea_popescu;GinAddict1 wait, is this one of those "let nsa put some bugs in, then take out the visible ones and it's good to go" sorta deal ? 740512;1404317585;mircea_popescu;nothing signed by gmaxwell may ever be merged. into anything. period. 740513;1404317620;GinAddict1;sorry i don't get the reference to gmaxwell and this one is .. about trusting untrusted nodes i guess 740514;1404317621;mircea_popescu;and in general, this bullshit where plants can coexist because us born engineers are cockless ended last year. 740515;1404317625;mircea_popescu;i keep lists, i kill people. 740516;1404317626;mircea_popescu;ask andreas. 740517;1404317653;ThickAsThieves;oh wait, you cant! 740518;1404317662;ThickAsThieves;er 740519;1404317664;GinAddict1;right 740520;1404317667;GinAddict1;you can't 740521;1404317669;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves wasn't that supposed t obe "you cunt" ? 740522;1404317673;ThickAsThieves;hehe 740523;1404317678;GinAddict1;he cunt? 740524;1404317711;GinAddict1;right, can I not be put on a kill list please 740525;1404317719;ThickAsThieves;i wanna know the legal deets about why i dont know this auction price yet 740526;1404317739;GinAddict1;ThickAsThieves: apparently we may find out with a FOIA request in a bit 740527;1404317743;GinAddict1;like a few months 740528;1404317749;ThickAsThieves;obnoxious 740529;1404317759;ThickAsThieves;i emailed them, cant they just reply 740530;1404317761;ThickAsThieves;yeesh 740531;1404317787;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves they're protecting themselves as best they can. 740532;1404317807;ThickAsThieves;hmm i guess that makes sense 740533;1404317813;ThickAsThieves;use formal channels 740534;1404317817;ThickAsThieves;but meh 740535;1404317980;thestringpuller;!up GinAddict1 740536;1404317991;GinAddict1;thanks thestringpuller 740537;1404318012;thestringpuller;yay it's like friday I get to read more lulz 740538;1404318017;thestringpuller;via reddits 740539;1404318204;thestringpuller;~_~ oh reddit, i love how stupid you are 740540;1404318315;GinAddict1;do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? 740541;1404318328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11685 @ 0.0008162 = 9.5373 BTC [-] {3} 740542;1404318331;GinAddict1;also, does anyone know fdroid and do you like it as an alternative to the play store? 740543;1404318358;danielpbarron;12:25:16 <+GinAddict1> do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? << i prefer irc and twitter 740544;1404318372;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/ 740545;1404318374;assbot;S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 740546;1404318429;mircea_popescu;!s fdroid 740547;1404318429;assbot;0 results for 'fdroid' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fdroid 740548;1404318437;mircea_popescu;believe it or not you're the first to mention it. 740549;1404318451;danielpbarron;i met kyuupichan at porcfest last week 740550;1404318466;mircea_popescu;!up kyuupichan 740551;1404318474;danielpbarron;we were the only two people there that were already in -assets as far as i could tell 740552;1404318478;danielpbarron;;;rated kyuupichan 740553;1404318479;gribble;You rated user kyuupichan on Mon Jun 23 16:29:30 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384. 740554;1404318485;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot kyuupichan 740555;1404318485;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask kyuupichan!~Neil@z182045.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kyuupichan: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kyuupichan | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kyuupichan | Rated since: Mon Jun 23 16:20:19 2014 740556;1404318486;GinAddict1;mircea_popescu: https://f-droid.org/ 740557;1404318486;assbot;F-Droid | Free and Open Source Android App Repository 740558;1404318498;mircea_popescu;a ok. i just met him cause he commented on my word cup bitch. 740559;1404318500;GinAddict1;we're submitting our app to that 740560;1404318506;danielpbarron;he told me he couldn't get voiced and i literally lol'd 740561;1404318525;danielpbarron;I told him i'd give him a +2 for meeting face-to-face 740562;1404318530;mircea_popescu;did you lord it over him at least ? 740563;1404318549;danielpbarron;heh 740564;1404318586;danielpbarron;we talked about mpex quite a bit 740565;1404318610;danielpbarron;I don't know if that conversation was meant to be private but i'd like him to bring it up in here 740566;1404318621;mircea_popescu;all about how it sux ? 740567;1404318636;*;danielpbarron will neither confirm nor deny that guess 740568;1404318655;mircea_popescu;you're ready for a job at usms 740569;1404318663;mircea_popescu;you got teh basics 740570;1404318684;danielpbarron;and I met btc_trader from -otc 740571;1404318696;danielpbarron;bought some of my fiat on my way out 740572;1404318717;danielpbarron;and that's the end of the list of gribble users at porcfest lol 740573;1404318739;danielpbarron;oh and I accidentally scammed someone 740574;1404318752;danielpbarron;he sold me a paper wallet that he had already imported into his phone 740575;1404318755;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081605 = 2.1625 BTC [-] 740576;1404318759;danielpbarron;and i got ahold of some of his change 740577;1404318820;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/#comment-102065 740578;1404318821;assbot;S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 740579;1404318877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00081563 = 10.6848 BTC [-] 740580;1404319097;danielpbarron;i attended the gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows 740581;1404319105;danielpbarron;didn't end up acutally signing any keys 740582;1404319118;danielpbarron;they spent most of the time settng up some portable key server 740583;1404319126;mircea_popescu;jesus god. 740584;1404319132;mircea_popescu;where was this ? 740585;1404319138;mircea_popescu;i won't even sign keys hosted on windows, wtf. 740586;1404319139;danielpbarron;all the while I was trying to convince them to just use my flash drive or better yet, get in the WoT with gribble 740587;1404319142;mircea_popescu;!up sHINOBI_CZ 740588;1404319158;danielpbarron;it was at the Porcupine Freedom Festival in Lancaster, New Hampshire, USA 740589;1404319169;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what's next? we sell folks beta parachutes? 740590;1404319189;mircea_popescu;tell the guy, not me. 740591;1404319199;asciilifeform;danielpbarron: gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows << lol!! 740592;1404319201;danielpbarron;i found a few individuals there who might do the right thing and get in the WoT 740593;1404319260;danielpbarron;the guy i accidentally ripped off is in the WoT now, user named GunPlay 740594;1404319272;GinAddict1;does anyone here use specialized hardware for gpg or just your favourite flavor of *nix ? 740595;1404319291;danielpbarron;i use old hardware running openbsd 740596;1404319327;GinAddict1;old on purpose or by chance? i.e. worried about some RNG in recent chips?= 740597;1404319343;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-june-2014-statement/ 740598;1404319377;danielpbarron;GinAddict1, a little of both; it's what I had left over from back when I used to be into computers, and I don't trust new hardware / don't know what's good now 740599;1404319399;mircea_popescu;GinAddict1 supposedly special hardware is being baked 740600;1404319406;danielpbarron;I like that all my hardware was built before Bitcoin existed 740601;1404319407;mircea_popescu;it'll be here two weeks ** two weeks. 740602;1404319445;danielpbarron;but i guess it all rests on entropy generation and that's been a target for longer than Bitcoin has existed 740603;1404319457;*;asciilifeform grunts, adjusts track width for the 601th time. 740604;1404319506;*;asciilifeform points out that entropy is a far more dire concern for signing than key generation, interestingly 740605;1404319523;danielpbarron;oh! and one of the webdevs from the Bitcoin magazine offered to publish an article if i were to write one for them 740606;1404319525;mircea_popescu;yeah best way to lose a key is through signing 740607;1404319526;GinAddict1;asciilifeform: for k? what if deterministic 740608;1404319537;asciilifeform;if deterministic, yer phucked 740609;1404319582;GinAddict1;asciilifeform: nope, still unique each time: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pornin-deterministic-dsa-00 740610;1404319583;assbot;403 Forbidden 740611;1404319606;asciilifeform;GinAddict1: ah you were thinking of ecdsa/btc 740612;1404319613;GinAddict1;yes sorry 740613;1404319635;*;asciilifeform doesn't make btc hardware, contrary to popular belief in 'fan mail' 740614;1404319871;ThickAsThieves;The growth in customers accounts, for both Coinbase and competitor Blockchain, continues to grow at a pretty torrid rate. Mr. Armstrong said the company is seeing growth in its user base of about 3-4% a week, and has jumped from 100,000 accounts a year ago to about 1.4 million now. 740615;1404319909;ThickAsThieves;so many clicks! 740616;1404320069;ThickAsThieves;i'm not crazy http://seekingalpha.com/article/2296575-caveat-emptor-on-goldman-sachs-call-on-netflix 740617;1404320069;assbot;Caveat Emptor On Goldman Sach's Call On Netflix - Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX) | Seeking Alpha 740618;1404320150;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves didn't think you were. 740619;1404320178;ThickAsThieves;just my first time getting done raw by GS 740620;1404320191;ThickAsThieves;i decided to just short more 740621;1404320211;mircea_popescu;ahaha 740622;1404320253;mircea_popescu;what are you, dumb or something ? a fake market in which some banks play with infinite money, waht are you gonna do ? 740623;1404320256;mircea_popescu;go play the slots. 740624;1404320259;pankkake;bagshorting? 740625;1404320298;pankkake;I don't understand why anyone would listen to trading advice anyway 740626;1404320323;pankkake;at least, free, public trading advice 740627;1404320359;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> what are you, dumb or something ? probly, but i dont feel the sting just yet 740628;1404320392;mircea_popescu;pankkake now turn that around. do you understand why anyone'd listen to relationship advice ? 740629;1404320399;mircea_popescu;how about sex advice. 740630;1404320399;ThickAsThieves;and it is nice seeing other firms calling GS scammers the day after 740631;1404320407;ThickAsThieves;of course maybe thats how they want me to think 740632;1404320411;ThickAsThieves;dun dun dun 740633;1404320415;mircea_popescu;it makes zero sense, but women like to belong, and this is driven into them deeper than reason. so... they listen. 740634;1404320443;pankkake;there is every reason to withold good trading advice and publish bad trading advice 740635;1404320446;asciilifeform;http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VGEpEsvJ 740636;1404320449;pankkake;not so for the others 740637;1404320459;mircea_popescu;you'll have to explain this to me. 740638;1404320468;ThickAsThieves;not entirely true p 740639;1404320490;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no but he knows you know ? 's not thought it through for two minutes, and yet :D 740640;1404320500;pankkake;if I tell women they should swallow, everyone benefits. if I tell they should buy the thing I plan to buy before them, I lose 740641;1404320510;mircea_popescu;pankkake uh. 740642;1404320518;mircea_popescu;you know what an ideology is, right ? 740643;1404320538;mircea_popescu;if you're supposed to be rich and the plebs poor, telling them to buy etc also everyone benefits. 740644;1404320546;mircea_popescu;"you all get what you all should get" 740645;1404320558;ThickAsThieves;but i get most! 740646;1404320572;mircea_popescu;most depends on a measuring stick dunnit. 740647;1404320587;ThickAsThieves;yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week 740648;1404320597;ThickAsThieves;is that kinda thing regulated? 740649;1404320607;ThickAsThieves;like issuing BUY status and then selling 740650;1404320618;mircea_popescu;it's regulated, yes. you can';t do it. 740651;1404320629;mircea_popescu;the govt's own banks are desperate for cash tho. 740652;1404320639;mircea_popescu;argentina;s in a better shape these days. 740653;1404320713;pankkake;https://www.contrepoints.org/2014/06/29/170453-bce-la-subvention-dont-personne-ne-parle found this very interesting, sorry for the French. it explains how the ECB lends money so they can go the "private sector" but does not check/punish if it does not happen 740654;1404320713;assbot;BCE : la subvention dont personne ne parle | Contrepoints 740655;1404320750;pankkake;effectively subsidizing out banks 740656;1404320756;mircea_popescu;there's no alternative. 740657;1404320861;thestringpuller;;;ls 740658;1404320862;gribble;What do you think I am, a shell? 740659;1404320864;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 740660;1404320873;thestringpuller;lol lag? 740661;1404320879;thestringpuller;!diff 740662;1404320888;gribble;Current Blocks: 308906 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16106703389.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.232 740663;1404320902;asciilifeform;;;goxlag 740664;1404320902;gribble;Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command. 740665;1404321011;pankkake;;;canstringlag 740666;1404321012;gribble;Error: "canstringlag" is not a valid command. 740667;1404321124;mike_c;<+ThickAsThieves> yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week << no no, there's an invisible wall between the trading desk and the rating guys. they have NO IDEA what each other are doing. really, they promise! 740668;1404321141;asciilifeform;canstringlag << about (d / 6000) sec, d in metres, length of string, assuming steel cable ? 740669;1404321462;bitstein;Some ironic entertainment from Andreas Antonopolous: http://i.imgur.com/n6wGydz.png 740670;1404321808;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/Ud3AF7d 740671;1404321809;assbot;double-conversion ups is neat - Imgur 740672;1404321862;thestringpuller;get da cryptocrypto coin 740673;1404321915;FabianB;$traded 740674;1404321916;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 740675;1404321988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0385 = 0.9625 BTC [+] 740676;1404322161;pankkake;asciilifeform: does it tell you how efficient it is? 740677;1404322181;pankkake;I have UPSes but only the passive ones 740678;1404322185;asciilifeform;pankkake: sorta. if one knows arithmetic. 740679;1404322232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03898887 = 1.1697 BTC [+] {2} 740680;1404322264;asciilifeform;pankkake: this is one of those monsters where the inverter runs constantly. so, around 80% efficient. 740681;1404322294;pankkake;ouch, right. not sure I want to pay 20% extra 740682;1404322319;asciilifeform;pankkake: i moved to a street where the entire place shares a transformer. so, abysmal mains quality. 740683;1404322340;pankkake;I used to live in a place that fried my psus every few months 740684;1404322354;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 34 @ 0.0499985 = 1.6999 BTC [+] 740685;1404322411;asciilifeform;pankkake: this is the pill for it. the only voltages that ever come out of a double-conversion ups is zero (dead battery) or the specified (120 here) ac, sinusoidal to 1% 740686;1404322456;pankkake;well, the cheap ups I got at that time was enough, though it eventually died :) 740687;1404322496;asciilifeform;pankkake: the consumer boxes are typically 'switchover' - you're connected directly to the mains, except when the reading drops below mark and the inverter kicks in. 740688;1404322539;pankkake;yes, that's what the two I have seem to do. they go to battery sometimes even when there's no visible power cut 740689;1404322561;pankkake;so, I suppose it helps my hardware live a longer, happier life 740690;1404322581;asciilifeform;pankkake: the nice kind (double conv.) runs rectifier and inverter at all times, with the battery sitting in the middle 740691;1404322598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03949109 = 1.7771 BTC [+] {3} 740692;1404322627;pankkake;yes, I know, I just wondered how "worth it" it was 740693;1404322644;asciilifeform;depends where you live 740694;1404322645;benkay;2 weeks lol 740695;1404322651;asciilifeform;and whether you really need your computer to run 740696;1404322689;pankkake;I'd rather invest in something with a big battery; I want the thing to stay up if I'm not there 740697;1404322708;asciilifeform;pankkake: this particular unit has a plug on the back for arbitrary number of cells 740698;1404322718;pankkake;oh, now that's great 740699;1404322825;asciilifeform;pankkake: you won't find this on a 'consumer' ups because their inverters aren't rated for 24/7 run 740700;1404322828;asciilifeform;(cooling issues) 740701;1404322851;pankkake;does it make noise? 740702;1404322859;asciilifeform;by default, yes 740703;1404322883;asciilifeform;and sure, there's a fan 740704;1404322903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.059 = 0.531 BTC [+] {4} 740705;1404322933;asciilifeform;standard 80mm pc fan 740706;1404322944;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-lovely-bones/ 740707;1404322980;pankkake;80mm's okay… I hate the smaller ones 740708;1404323398;mircea_popescu;!up terp 740709;1404323474;terp;whens the next trip to the moon? 740710;1404323488;terp;i needa buy my tickets 740711;1404323497;benkay;$conference 740712;1404323498;empyex;benkay: Next conference starts in 9 months and 15 days. Estimated cost today: 2.04106878 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ ) 740713;1404323499;assbot;The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 740714;1404323574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00081605 = 3.1353 BTC [+] 740715;1404323593;terp;what are these crazy californians doing legalizing bitcoin and marijuana? 740716;1404323606;benkay;desperate bid for relevance? 740717;1404323664;terp;its all ready the hippy mecca 740718;1404324009;mircea_popescu;http://news.artnet.com/market/sothebys-london-hits-high-notes-with-lb93-million-sale-49285 << romanian painter guy from cluj sold 740719;1404324011;assbot;Sotheby's London Hits High Notes with 93 Million Sale - artnet News 740720;1404324014;mircea_popescu;for 1.5mn pounds 740721;1404324082;asciilifeform;canvas, the oldest of the pump-altcoins. 740722;1404324131;mircea_popescu;!up Vallance 740723;1404324137;mircea_popescu;art, right ? 740724;1404324203;mircea_popescu;it's going to make a bundle for well positioned handlers tho. all this free floating money... 740725;1404324447;mircea_popescu;!up Liberus_Mercator 740726;1404324489;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/07-2014/p01/p/14.jpg < jesus check out that trainwreck of a boobjob 740727;1404324535;asciilifeform;what'd they stuff in them, Bchner funnels ? 740728;1404324621;mircea_popescu;silicone it seems 740729;1404324747;kakobrekla;you havent seen those ghetto ops 740730;1404324789;mircea_popescu;Do u have any personal imformation of BVPS owner?They are fraud.They started buy back at a very low price 2 monthes ago,and it's non negotiation.I can get less than 3 btc.I accept that.And they say they will pay before june 30th. But I havent got any payment till today. 740731;1404324797;mircea_popescu;Namworld you still involved with that ? 740732;1404324866;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-june-2014-statement/ 740733;1404324892;kakobrekla;http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a0gwu58ss-k/U44w6K32cMI/AAAAAAAAFD8/tMULGz5LfHE/s1600/Butt+Implant+Gone+Wrong+(2).jpg 740734;1404324898;kakobrekla;not a tit but nevertheless 740735;1404324906;mircea_popescu;ouch 740736;1404324972;mircea_popescu;so talking of ways one doesn't exactly expect to die : i have a gas boiler here. gas isn't really that commonly used in ba, and i guess they don't really get it. i notice that sometimes when i turn hot water on it sputters. super is like "well ya gotta let steam get out now an' again". 740737;1404324976;mircea_popescu;im like... nigga WHAT 740738;1404325002;mircea_popescu;direct circuit boiler. let's hope it doesn't acumulate too much steam o.O 740739;1404325019;benkay;pray for a bleeder valve? 740740;1404325025;mircea_popescu;i looked, it has one. 740741;1404325066;mircea_popescu;(it was suspended, sorta pointing towards sink, originally. send the bish to wash dish, get scalded bish randomly) 740742;1404325105;benkay;no dishwasher? 740743;1404325114;mircea_popescu;organic. 740744;1404325126;benkay;? 740745;1404325144;mircea_popescu;organic dishwasher. 740746;1404325164;benkay;human dishwasher 740747;1404325213;benkay;on an entirely different topic, mircea_popescu would you explain the tangibles line in the S.MG report? 740748;1404325218;mircea_popescu;not that i like the electric stuff anyway 740749;1404325247;mircea_popescu;benkay yeah, it had a bunch of servers paid upfront. 740750;1404325287;mircea_popescu;davout argued it to death when it was first introduced (about 1 year ago, s.mg was iirc the first to an0 report, and i wanted an example) 740751;1404325343;benkay;yeah, the argument was about buying vs leasing. 740752;1404325355;mircea_popescu;yeah, that. 740753;1404325366;benkay;it did seem a pretty tortured way to shoehorn an asset bearing company into an0 reporting. 740754;1404325384;mircea_popescu;what do you want from me ;/ 740755;1404325385;asciilifeform;'human dishwasher' << one item i keep expecting to see from the chicoms. looks precisely like the mechanical kind, but has a nice little fellow living inside (first eats scraps, then washes, then returns to his compartment. convenient sewer hookup for both!) 740756;1404325385;benkay;not that i know *anything( 740757;1404325473;benkay;what was the rationale, mircea_popescu - that since it was a purchase with a 1-year buyback agreement you could book it as opex instead of capex? 740758;1404325481;benkay;and do forgive any misunderstandings of terminology. 740759;1404325514;mircea_popescu;benkay that since eulora could sell it off if it decided not to want it it's worth something. 740760;1404325523;mircea_popescu;meets the definition of tangible. 740761;1404325558;mircea_popescu;so everything here takes the same brass skeleton keys pretty much. i have a 2`800 grams pile of different keys ;/ 740762;1404325587;benkay;wait i thought an0 was for companies with no assets period? 740763;1404325603;benkay;nonzero asset corporation jesus fuck i'm retarded 740764;1404325611;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: when they last changed a lock? 1790? 740765;1404325652;mircea_popescu;i have no idea 740766;1404325669;mircea_popescu;benkay don't get excited lol 740767;1404326697;davout;ohai 740768;1404326705;jurov;!t m f.mpif 740769;1404326705;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021604 / 0.00023849 (22205 shares, 4.80 BTC) 740770;1404327019;mircea_popescu;ello! 740771;1404327113;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14141 @ 0.00081623 = 11.5423 BTC [+] {2} 740772;1404327351;jurov;hi mircea 740773;1404327378;jurov;and davout.. oh i was asking you earlier about paymium: 740774;1404327392;jurov;i'm trying to figure out something around here, would need to set up slovak translation and support, is that intersting for you? 740775;1404327417;davout;i beg your pardon 740776;1404327440;davout;does not compute 740777;1404327601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03948 = 0.7896 BTC [-] 740778;1404327662;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00081544 = 20.6306 BTC [-] {4} 740779;1404328067;BingoBoingo;"Well you're totally not paying your rent with my one free Bitcoin, you know?" https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800.html << How times have changed 740780;1404328068;assbot;Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community 740781;1404328252;mircea_popescu;suych an epic thread 740782;1404328285;mircea_popescu;http://online.wsj.com/articles/russia-softens-stance-on-bitcoin-1404305139 740783;1404328286;assbot;Russia Softens Stance on Bitcoin - WSJ 740784;1404328349;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << any idea who this one is btw ? 740785;1404328371;jurov;davout: to get merchants around here into paymium 740786;1404328464;penguirker;New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/07/02/F.MPIF-Jun-2014-marketmaker-statement 740787;1404328592;jurov;nothing to see here, move along 740788;1404328881;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mps-guide-to-boat-travel-from-upon-the-very-boat-in-question/ 740789;1404328979;davout;jurov: so you want to promote paymium in slovakia? 740790;1404328997;jurov;yes. if stars align right 740791;1404329107;jurov;i mean, if someone non-derpy will be around here to help me 740792;1404329431;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081475 = 10.4288 BTC [-] 740793;1404329444;benkay;http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28130581 740794;1404329445;assbot;BBC News - Why has Google cast me into oblivion? 740795;1404329933;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed << that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd see on twitter. 740796;1404330076;mircea_popescu;benkay that shit should be lulzy, i got tons of upset romanian scammzors/spammers/whatnot documented on trilema 740797;1404330082;mircea_popescu;for a long time they've been bitching 740798;1404330602;BingoBoingo;%d 740799;1404330603;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 559333.38 in 518 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 9.35 740800;1404330626;BingoBoingo;OMG ATC diff going to the Moon!!! 740801;1404330721;benkay;http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/01/enter-twitters-new-venture-capital-arm/?mod=ST1 // "strategic investments group" 740802;1404330721;assbot;Enter Twitter’s New Venture Capital Arm? - Digits - WSJ 740803;1404330737;benkay;pull more money out of the markets and dump it into your friends' idiotic startup scams. 740804;1404330740;benkay;please. 740805;1404330824;mircea_popescu;o check it out, gold tattoo is now a thing 740806;1404330824;mircea_popescu;http://weenii.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/d95d9816c13a3769ee0887d9f19a6a50.jpg 740807;1404330832;mike_c;%p 740808;1404330833;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.32 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 11007.33 GH/s 740809;1404330837;mircea_popescu;black chicks can get done now too! 740810;1404330862;mircea_popescu;benkay i don't get it, twitter is not making money. what vc arm ?! 740811;1404330971;benkay;it's not vc it's a fucking roulette wheel 740812;1404331001;mircea_popescu;mp's feminism today : chick bitching about how society should change because she has no money and a trampstamp http://thisnorwegienne.com/trampstampingness-tramp-stamp 740813;1404331065;mircea_popescu;"Writer, Actress, Humanitarian, Philanderer, Bravado, and Playboy" mind. 740814;1404331078;mircea_popescu;you can be a "bravado" now, in grammarlessland. 740815;1404331114;benkay;No one calls a male past the age of puberty “a good boy.” // lies - i called a guy a "nice kid" just two days ago. 740816;1404331128;mircea_popescu;things that are inconvenient don't exist. 740817;1404331142;benkay;and i'm clearly alluding to his business and life inexperience. 740818;1404331212;benkay;waittaminute what's wrong with sluts? 740819;1404331222;mircea_popescu;dun ask me, bitch got issues. 740820;1404331228;benkay;does this person think that sluts are bad? 740821;1404331249;mircea_popescu;Some of us are trying to use grow some ovaries as a female-friendly equivalent to grow some balls, 740822;1404331252;mircea_popescu;ahahahah 740823;1404331264;mircea_popescu;no, she just thinks ovaries. o gawd. 740824;1404331284;benkay;ovaries are not where the thinking happens 740825;1404331294;diatonic;neither are balls 740826;1404331302;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << 'praise be to those who vanquished the dragon' << wtf 740827;1404331331;mircea_popescu;maybe she just meant "swallowed the snake" 740828;1404331334;mircea_popescu;and got snarled in translation. 740829;1404331350;mircea_popescu;diametric now that depends. 740830;1404331436;mircea_popescu;"For the record, I dont think that a female who has frivolous and frequent sex with different men has any cause for shame, at least not if shes doing it because she enjoys it and because its making her a happier and better citizen of the world, and if she is doing it for other less helpful reasons, then those reasons are what she should be dealing with, not the symptoms. Sadly, few people actually view f 740831;1404331436;mircea_popescu;emale sexuality in this way; even women and men who advocate liberated female sexuality, are sometimes guilty of using it against other women because the insult is so readily available and so ridiculously ingrained in us." 740832;1404331448;mircea_popescu;way to go on hitching the derpy equalitarian aggenda on sluttery. 740833;1404331463;mircea_popescu;we support women being sluts FOR BEING SLUTS, not for being something else that isn't being sluts. good god. 740834;1404331497;mthreat;http://www.proofofposition.com/ 740835;1404331497;assbot;Proof of Position 740836;1404331515;mircea_popescu;liberated female sexuality specifically does not mean female sexuality coralled by feminist special interest. a slave's a paragon of liberated female sexuality, not some derpy "playboy" with bills due. 740837;1404331534;asciilifeform;mthreat: proof of gps spoofer 740838;1404331561;mthreat;.com 740839;1404331563;mircea_popescu;mthreat we need o get the ba registrar of deeds moving already 740840;1404331575;asciilifeform;mthreat: you don't even need a genuine physical one, just whatever diddles the appropriate field in the pnohe 740841;1404331636;asciilifeform;(a pnohe is not necessarily a phone. could be any gizmo with the customary 'amazing! smart!' feature set.) 740842;1404331636;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 740843;1404331648;asciilifeform;as exemplified by the iconic russian iPnohe. 740844;1404331656;benkay;had to explain to someone that their 'coupled' gps-imu thinger on a phone was not coupled in the strict sense of the thing. 740845;1404331658;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ok.. do you know the guy who wrote proofofexistence.com is from bsas? 740846;1404331679;mthreat;it seems similar 740847;1404331707;mircea_popescu;i did not know that. 740848;1404331710;benkay;did so by example: "now on this other actually tightly-coupled gps imu an acquaintance built, he actually used the IMU to maintain a lock on the GPS sats while under...10G acceleration". 740849;1404331716;mircea_popescu;can you drop him a line so he shows up here ? 740850;1404331734;benkay;eyes bugged, minds boggled. 740851;1404331754;mthreat;yep 740852;1404331759;mircea_popescu;now that'd be cool. 740853;1404331765;asciilifeform;application: avio bomb? 740854;1404331780;asciilifeform;(rocket-propelled, otherwise you only gotta worry about 1G) 740855;1404331821;mircea_popescu;he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. 740856;1404331893;asciilifeform;can't think of anything save for pyrotechics where one gets 10G. 740857;1404331903;asciilifeform;(possibly in a railtron) 740858;1404331932;mthreat;f1 cars get 5G 740859;1404331948;mircea_popescu;good sex is about 12 G 740860;1404331952;asciilifeform;i suppose they get 10 - if hit a wall! 740861;1404331955;mthreat;ouch 740862;1404331959;asciilifeform;no one said 'forward' 740863;1404331994;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah they did stop being difficult :D 740864;1404331994;mthreat;last F1 accident I remember, tehy said the sensor said 26G 740865;1404331994;mthreat;and the driver was ok, maybe some bruising 740866;1404332073;asciilifeform;sensor got 26G - driver - no. 740867;1404332077;ThickAsThieves;http://new.livestream.com/draperuniversity/bitcoin-auction in 45m 740868;1404332078;assbot;Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream 740869;1404332099;mthreat;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJrsmPyfwA 740870;1404332099;assbot;F1 2008 Spain - Big crash for Heikki Kovalainen - On board - YouTube 740871;1404332157;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/circle-ceo-jeremy-allaire-issues-challenge-bitcoins-core-developers/ 740872;1404332157;assbot;Jeremy Allaire: Bitcoin Developers Need to 'Step Up' 740873;1404332199;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 740874;1404332256;mthreat;asciilifeform: sounds right - racing seatbelts are designed to "rip" a bit on impact to absorb some of the force 740875;1404332276;asciilifeform;mthreat: likewise the front of the car compacting. 740876;1404332294;mircea_popescu;is that sensor right under the hood above the radiator ? 740877;1404332306;mthreat;i don't know... probably close to the driver 740878;1404332311;mthreat;since that is what they want to measure 740879;1404332322;asciilifeform;ideally it would be up his arse 740880;1404332324;mthreat;haha 740881;1404332325;mircea_popescu;lol 740882;1404332329;mthreat;actually - 740883;1404332333;mircea_popescu;ben-wa balls gforce sensor ? 740884;1404332345;mircea_popescu;!up scottj_ 740885;1404332349;mthreat;mark webber had a thing about how he swallowed a pill that monitored his body temps, etc, during the race 740886;1404332356;*;asciilifeform distinctly recalls soviet flyers being instrumented in this fashion, at least early on 740887;1404332358;mthreat;then shat it out 740888;1404332359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33772 @ 0.00081375 = 27.482 BTC [-] {4} 740889;1404332389;asciilifeform;'electronics' by forrest l mims contains a recipe for just such a pill. first baked in the early '50s. 740890;1404332390;benkay;an acquaintance crashed a Ford "Mustang" into a tree one time. the crumple zones are so well-distributed around the car that the cupholder crushed his unopened cola can, dousing everyone in the car in a fine mist of sugar water. 740891;1404332438;mthreat;it's amazing the fuel cells don't rupture in F1 cars 740892;1404332438;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 740893;1404332471;mircea_popescu;notrly, the mesh composites they have... 740894;1404332487;asciilifeform;incidentally - it is, in principle, possible to build a car which could survive a crash intact. not by rigid construction (driver would get blended anyway) but via: momentum transfer. eject something out the back... a la 'recoil-less rifle.' work it out. 740895;1404332512;asciilifeform;consider the children's toy 'newton's cradle.' 740896;1404332519;benkay; application: avio bomb? // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rnlyAnIFw 740897;1404332520;assbot;On Board LV2.3 with Roll Stabilization - YouTube 740898;1404332534;mthreat;interesting 740899;1404332553;benkay; he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. // once upon a time. 740900;1404332565;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes but your cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it 740901;1404332565;benkay;p. capital intensive. 740902;1404332570;asciilifeform;why the rotating vanes? 740903;1404332596;benkay;they're vastly larger than the canards. 740904;1404332617;benkay;vortex shedding was imparting a torque on the airframe, inverting control and confusing controller. 740905;1404332656;mircea_popescu;"Following the overtaking of Lees email, the attackers processed a password challenge, which then provided them with a list of all of the passwords that had been previously listed within the browser. They then retrieved Bitcoins Reserves domain register, and then proceeded to add another DNS record that gave them access through Google to the companys admin page for their apps account. " 740906;1404332661;mircea_popescu;lastpass is fucking stupid ftr. 740907;1404332680;benkay;so obviously the correct solution was to machine and harden our own .25M bearing races to decouple torque on stability fins from airframe. 740908;1404332712;benkay;(.25 m diameter) 740909;1404332738;benkay;*sigh* 740910;1404332740;benkay;i miss rockets. 740911;1404332768;rithm;derp 740912;1404332798;benkay;derp yourself 740913;1404332801;rithm;mircea_popescu took a vacation? 740914;1404332947;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it << the one behind also fires. and so on, to the end of the column. don't stand there... 740915;1404332994;asciilifeform;reduction to practice - exercise for alert reader. 740916;1404333032;ThickAsThieves;Sheryl Sandberg apologizes for Facebook's News Feed experiment: 'we never meant to upset you' 740917;1404333185;mircea_popescu;anyway, for the record : Bitcoins Reserve / sam lee need to a) read the fucking history. this retarded shit happened once to bitpay. 740918;1404333202;mircea_popescu;bitpay fucktards didn't put the trilema article on he topic all over their site, 740919;1404333208;mircea_popescu;and so sam "didn't know" today. 740920;1404333220;mircea_popescu;and he ain't putting the by now years old trilema article al over his shitty "service" 740921;1404333225;mircea_popescu;so the next fucktards aren't gonna know. 740922;1404333230;ThickAsThieves;The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a White House watchdog group that condemned the Obama administration's phone surveillance program earlier this year, has released another report ... According to the board, though, it's completely legal. 740923;1404333237;mircea_popescu;lastpass and "omaigawd i ar an engeniar" bullshit. 740924;1404333249;mircea_popescu;then they wonder why they're despised in bitcoin. well... this'd be why. stupidity does it. 740925;1404333396;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081728 = 5.9661 BTC [+] 740926;1404333542;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves "we're not sorry we stole but terribly terribly sorry we got caught" 740927;1404333649;ThickAsThieves;exactly 740928;1404333657;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: what trilema article? 740929;1404333846;BingoBoingo;Huh, even with Death owning the board, life is still a value purchase 740930;1404333862;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin payments on Expedia exceeding their expectations, “I think we’ve already seen what we’ve needed to see..." 740931;1404333947;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-events-of-failday/ http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-verify-your-identity/ etc 740932;1404333948;assbot;The Events of Failday pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 740933;1404333949;assbot;O hai let me verify your identity! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 740934;1404333970;mircea_popescu;this entire "stolen emails" thing is a decade old by now. 740935;1404334006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081323 = 6.6685 BTC [-] {2} 740936;1404334154;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit. << wasn't this essentially the pitch of ebay too ? 740937;1404334162;mircea_popescu;what, dropshipping is worth fiddy trillion now ? 740938;1404334191;BingoBoingo;Well It's a place scared white Americans can get stuff from china and pretend to be "in industry" 740939;1404334321;mircea_popescu;i guess. 740940;1404334355;BingoBoingo;It's like LVHM, it sell the pretense of being or being in a thing 740941;1404334592;ThickAsThieves;http://new.livestream.com/draperuniversity/bitcoin-auction 3m to start 740942;1404334593;assbot;Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream 740943;1404334852;jurov;!up ninjashogun >:D 740944;1404334860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.181754 = 0.9088 BTC [+] {2} 740945;1404334877;jurov;!up aegis 740946;1404334882;thestringpuller;!mpif 740947;1404334883;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 740948;1404334908;BingoBoingo;!up cowloon 740949;1404334979;mircea_popescu;artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally" << ok that was pretty good 740950;1404335032;BingoBoingo;!up SuchWow 740951;1404335034;mircea_popescu;sheit, all caught up with logs, again. 740952;1404335036;BingoBoingo;!up VanCleef 740953;1404335038;ninjashogun;hey, so I don't know if it's related to my offer the other day or what by an op in another channel got about 23 PM's from people in this channel. 740954;1404335045;ninjashogun;I'll just state my interactoin with you guys for the record: 740955;1404335046;BingoBoingo;!up Ukyo 740956;1404335052;mircea_popescu;i have no idea how long that makes it but i think i never missed A SINGLE LINE since logs were introduced. 740957;1404335063;ninjashogun;i'm a startup founder, I now have 2 startups I'm doing. (That's what the small funding round is about in the other channel). 740958;1404335077;ninjashogun;that's it. 740959;1404335080;ninjashogun;I first asked you guys for cash. 740960;1404335083;BingoBoingo;!s pg@ycombinator.com 740961;1404335084;assbot;1 results for 'pg@ycombinator.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=pg%40ycombinator.com 740962;1404335107;ninjashogun;And then when I realized that you guys have a ton of money and (I thought) in earnest working on products, offered services. 740963;1404335121;ninjashogun;Anyway, I'm a real world person. Anyone here who is interested cna connect with me in real life. 740964;1404335138;ninjashogun;I disagree with all of you completely on running a business - especially Mircau. I think this channel is incredibly trollish. 740965;1404335152;mike_c;!down jurov 740966;1404335153;ninjashogun;But I have absolutely no gov't affiliation of any kind, and 15 minutes on the phone with me can tell anyone everything about me. 740967;1404335216;mircea_popescu;mthreat status report in my inbox re yest : "Streets jammed with crazy hat wearers and trumpet people, Argentina's playing. Nueve de Julio es bloqueado completamente con locos." 740968;1404335274;aegis;Hi all... sorry for the nick changes... I was grouping nicks that some scammers were using earlier. 740969;1404335281;mthreat;mircea_popescu: it was crazy. I'm looking forward to more crazyness when they play belgium 740970;1404335287;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00081814 = 7.8951 BTC [+] {2} 740971;1404335288;ninjashogun;This channel is the most trollish I've ever seen. Anyone is welcome to participate in my funding round on -otc though, as long as they want to connect with me in real life (I don't deal with pseudonymns) 740972;1404335292;mircea_popescu;is this what, quarter finals by now ? 740973;1404335315;mthreat;i think so 740974;1404335329;mircea_popescu;aegis pretty sucky to have to group all the possible variations. got aeg1s ? 740975;1404335332;ninjashogun;the funding is $30K within the week, it can be to hard trusted escrower (who does cost control). It's being spent on two startups, one of which has a client but is not yet incorporated, the other has discussed very high valuaitons with (real-world) VC's. 740976;1404335344;aegis;lol... not yet 740977;1404335353;BingoBoingo;!up CheckDavid 740978;1404335361;mircea_popescu;a3gls ? 740979;1404335378;ninjashogun;by cost-control I mean someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) can actually wire the checks, to e.g. incorporation costs, legal costs around closing the round, etc. You would have to like and be involved with real-world, VC-backed startups to be able to participate meaningfully. 740980;1404335386;ninjashogun;Anyway that's it. 740981;1404335390;benkay;ang31s? 740982;1404335405;a3gis;someone registered a3gis 740983;1404335406;a3gis;lol 740984;1404335410;asciilifeform;someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) << why spam here? 740985;1404335432;ninjashogun;asciilifeform, the reason is that a mod from another bitcoin channel got (in his words) 23 PM's from people in this channel. After someone posted my offer here. 740986;1404335441;aegis;Do any of you make a living just off bitcoin? 740987;1404335452;ninjashogun;asciilifeform, 23 PM's from people asking about me (or my deal.) So, I thought I would clear things up. 740988;1404335470;ninjashogun;I slightly trust Benkay, however he doesn't have a real-world VC network and hasn't taken venture capital money for his business. 740989;1404335489;ninjashogun;Benkay and I talked on skype extensively btw, you can ask him anything about me, he'll know the basics. 740990;1404335495;ninjashogun;(1 single conversation.) 740991;1404335519;ninjashogun;I've also connected with other real-world VC's/founders from here. So it's a mixed bag. 740992;1404335557;ninjashogun;anyway that's all for me. just came here to address the PM's. 740993;1404335560;jurov;lol how many veecees you connected for 30k$ ??? 740994;1404335568;ninjashogun;jurov, 0. I didn't even mention it to them. 740995;1404335569;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2014#738969 740996;1404335569;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 740997;1404335609;mircea_popescu;aegis how do you mean "any" 740998;1404335612;mircea_popescu;i'd imagine it's most. 740999;1404335620;ninjashogun;Ah, the list of expenses is a joke :) 741000;1404335629;ninjashogun;but yes, that log is fine. 741001;1404335634;aegis;nice 741002;1404335645;ninjashogun;He is wrong that it's a "loan" however. 741003;1404335654;ninjashogun;The bid that I'm soliciting is for an x repayment. 741004;1404335670;ThickAsThieves;Draper called him Satoshi Nakomura 741005;1404335686;jurov;ninjashogun have you talked to usagi? 741006;1404335701;ninjashogun;For traditoinal companies, that have at least 2 years of net revenues, it's typical to raise "RBF" (revenue based financing) at a multiple of up to 5x, meaning that it will be returned until 5x has been returned. And that is with substantially reduced risk. (2 years of real cash flow.) 741007;1404335717;ninjashogun;so I can take bids up to any amount and will consider them, on the $30K. 741008;1404335724;ninjashogun;jurov, let me see. doesn't ring a bell. 741009;1404335739;jurov;yea, i definitely recommend 741010;1404335744;Mats_cd03;Benkay is a real bro 741011;1404335783;ninjashogun;Hi, Mats_cd03 and I have talked as well, but not on skype or anything. At the time i think I was just focusing on the newer business with you Mats, you would recall that I was talking in terms of a loan I think. 741012;1404335816;ninjashogun;However at the moment both businesses are doing "well" (at the preseed stage), the second (services only) business is gearing up really well and it's time to incorporate, etc. 741013;1404335836;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081892 = 5.8143 BTC [+] 741014;1404335878;benkay;i even lift 741015;1404335883;ninjashogun;jurov, I don't see a log for Usagi when I open the scrollback, so probably I haven't spoken with him. 741016;1404335895;jurov;;;seen usagi 741017;1404335895;gribble;usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 38 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: No, but it will go over 741018;1404335907;jurov;he's gone over to bitcointalk 741019;1404335909;ninjashogun;so that's a while ago 741020;1404335932;ninjashogun;jurov, I would ordinarily ask for an "intro" (who is he, etc) but I've been told that it's a bit forward to ask for this kind of info in btc world. 741021;1404335938;mircea_popescu;!up Bugpowder 741022;1404335941;Bugpowder;tx 741023;1404335943;mircea_popescu;o look who's here. 741024;1404335948;benkay;a wild Bugpowder ! 741025;1404335955;mircea_popescu;do you know hw to up yourself Bugpowder ? 741026;1404335956;Bugpowder;Just watching the livestream 741027;1404335961;Bugpowder;I don't know! 741028;1404335969;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/029AHHV.txt ) 741029;1404335969;BingoBoingo;!b 6 741030;1404335982;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder id with gribble pm assbot !up 741031;1404335985;ninjashogun;jurov, I recommend a double opt-in system, where you ask Usagi if he would like an intro to a founder, and if he does want one (as well - I'll speak to him) you can introduce us. 741032;1404335998;ThickAsThieves;these guys just wont spit out the price huh 741033;1404336007;ninjashogun;by "as well - I'll speak to him" I mean that I will appreciate the intro, I'm happy to speak with him. 741034;1404336015;ninjashogun;so it's up to him if he wants to connect. 741035;1404336016;jurov;hm, did anyone really wrote something that does justice to usagi's long and colorful career? 741036;1404336023;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves badly advised. supposedly it's gonna get more "exposure" this way. 741037;1404336034;ninjashogun;jurov - oh, wait, is he a scammer? 741038;1404336038;mircea_popescu;jurov deprived, but iirc mostly deleted it. 741039;1404336052;Bugpowder;ok tx 741040;1404336076;thestringpuller;Holy shit 741041;1404336078;jurov;ninjashogun: he had only the purest and noblest intentions, you remind me of him 741042;1404336078;thestringpuller;Bugpowder: 741043;1404336081;thestringpuller;mah nigga 741044;1404336082;ninjashogun;Guys, THIS - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.20 - is why we have securities laws. 741045;1404336082;assbot;Usagi- is he or isn't he a scammer. 741046;1404336093;ninjashogun;jurov, this is why I'm ont raising a securities sale 741047;1404336101;Mats_cd03;ikr 741048;1404336105;ninjashogun;jurov, this is why I ignore people's suggestions to make a crypto currency and sell shares, etc. 741049;1404336127;ninjashogun;Jurov, I am only interested in personal financing, not in my assets per se. The use is on the two companies, one of which isn't even incorporated. 741050;1404336129;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: The thing is to us you sound astoundingly like Usagi 741051;1404336130;jurov;yes you do something dont-name-it-bond 741052;1404336144;*;ThickAsThieves posts a "Do Not Feed the Trolls" sign. 741053;1404336146;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, well did you guys talk to him in real life? Or is this all from bizarro btc work? 741054;1404336153;ninjashogun;world* 741055;1404336185;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, well, I don't know. That thread I linked shows a founder who is selling assets free of any regulation or securities law. It gets ugly very fast. 741056;1404336225;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, it's why I don't mind doing traditional things. All of the great companies built in America since hte Great Depressoin, including the entire Internet and softtware, etc, tech sector, was done under securities regulation. 741057;1404336240;ninjashogun;you can't just come up with some bogus asset and start selling it. 741058;1404336243;ninjashogun;this is as it should be. 741059;1404336266;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: And then there's the people who built shit *gasp* with their own sweat and money 741060;1404336276;ninjashogun;Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you guys. You're free to do whatever you want. If anyone wants in on the funding that is being raised I was asked to post a prospectus, it'll be in the other channel and you can review it. 741061;1404336297;ninjashogun;I also consider hte logging here and its interpretation to be absolutely psychopathic. Like you guys have never picked up the phone and networked with anyone. 741062;1404336309;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, yeah, you and Benkay have the same philosophy here. 741063;1404336324;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, but while I respect that philosophy, a little bit of capital is always needed. 741064;1404336346;thestringpuller;ninjashogun: do you know the story of "The Boss"? 741065;1404336348;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, like, engineers love the immiggrant Tesla's story, but he only ecked out a meagre living from some patent royalties and that's it. 741066;1404336350;jurov;just do a garage sale 741067;1404336355;jurov;!down ninjashogun 741068;1404336358;Bugpowder;If anyone wants to put $50-250k+ into a real near field microscopy startup at the angel stage, let me know. 741069;1404336360;thestringpuller;HAHAHAHA 741070;1404336364;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: That's why most restaraunts hire dishwashers, so people can realize their dreams 741071;1404336428;mircea_popescu;Bugpowder what's your involvement ? 741072;1404336434;Bugpowder;Good friend of mine 741073;1404336438;Bugpowder;I might put in 50 741074;1404336462;ThickAsThieves;dude outright wont say what he paid :( 741075;1404336474;mircea_popescu;i might have too, if i knew him. 741076;1404336489;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves "if you're watching it, you're in the demo" 741077;1404336526;Bugpowder;I know the tech is solid, he just quit job with market leader to found the company, and will partner back with them. 741078;1404336629;thestringpuller;hey Bugpowder how's it been man? 741079;1404336658;Bugpowder;good. up and running LA 741080;1404336722;Bugpowder;Tech is basically a sSNOM that can work on existing microscopes. Spans atomic to microscopic scale imaging. Field will blow up next year. https://www.bruker.com/fileadmin/user_upload/8-PDF-Docs/SurfaceAnalysis/AFM/Webinars/6_27_13_Webinar-sSNOM-beating_diffraction_limit_by1000X.pdf 741081;1404336779;mircea_popescu;sounds pretty cool 741082;1404336886;Bugpowder;I can put you in touch if possibly interested. He has plan and deck can show privately. 741083;1404337056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12559 @ 0.00082051 = 10.3048 BTC [+] {2} 741084;1404337298;Bugpowder;Poor dogecoin. DFJ is out on doge. 741085;1404337307;fluffypony;DFJ? 741086;1404337338;Bugpowder;Draper 741087;1404337353;fluffypony;ah ok 741088;1404337761;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-june-2014-statement/ 741089;1404337792;nubbins`;davout is slovak? 741090;1404337797;nubbins`;i thought he was french 741091;1404337953;jurov;he is french 741092;1404337989;jurov;and paymium is shown with english interface, that's why i write about i18n 741093;1404338012;nubbins`;https://twitter.com/TimDraper/status/484435349595512833 741094;1404338013;assbot;Tune into a live stream at 2pm Pacific Time to learn more about Bitcoin and the Bitcoin auction. http://t.co/2KeriLXOhJ 741095;1404338044;mike_c;%p 741096;1404338046;mthreat;^watching - this is kind of painful to watch 741097;1404338046;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10005.56 GH/s 741098;1404338071;mike_c;nubbins`: highlight was: he's not telling on price. 741099;1404338103;mircea_popescu;jurov i thought he was nigerian 741100;1404338128;nubbins`;:( 741101;1404338151;nubbins`;i'd say he went between 800 and 1k 741102;1404338163;jurov;mircea_popescu misheard vegetarian? 741103;1404338173;mircea_popescu;no ? 741104;1404338181;jurov;then i dunno 741105;1404338251;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: I'm leaning to suspect that as well. That the reason he isn't talking price yet is he doesn't want to appear to have overpayed 741106;1404338367;mike_c;1k isn't overpaying for 30k bitcoins 741107;1404338376;mike_c;;;market buy 15000 741108;1404338376;gribble;Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 12234.28 bitcoins, for a total of 14798736.0877 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0354 seconds 741109;1404338379;mircea_popescu;either that or he got it for free and they're working on an angle. 741110;1404338395;mike_c;;;market buy 10000 741111;1404338396;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 7554622.7432 USD and would take the last price up to 1005.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 755.4623 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 19.0805 seconds 741112;1404338467;nubbins`;well y'know. you're talking about an inconvenience in buying 741113;1404338479;nubbins`;he buys something with 1btc tomorrow, he's out money 741114;1404338556;nubbins`;he buys something worth 5000 btc tomorrow, he's out money 741115;1404338706;mike_c;i don't think he spent his last $ on the coins. 741116;1404338721;BingoBoingo;http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/the-wrong-way-to-beg-for-money 741117;1404338721;assbot;the wrong way to beg for money 741118;1404338742;nubbins`;i don't think he spent "his" money at all 741119;1404338760;Namworld;I am now attracting threats of harm to me and my family, for working for a Bitcoin casino and for having a few BTC. Apparently I'm responsible for Scrat's debts because Scrat not reachable/can't pay. 741120;1404338772;mircea_popescu;scrat disappeared ? 741121;1404338774;Namworld;The worst way to beg for money. 741122;1404338781;nubbins`;people are threatening you and your family? 741123;1404338805;mircea_popescu;i didn't know Namworld was married. 741124;1404338814;Namworld;Nevermind that I can't do anything about it nor have access to Scrat's wallet. 741125;1404338837;mircea_popescu;so wait, coinroll is belly up ? 741126;1404338843;Namworld;Nah, I'm not. Some schmuck who probably lost money on Coinroll and can't get to scrat found my Facebook. 741127;1404338856;kyuupichan;blockchain.info just gets worse and worse 741128;1404338863;nubbins`;Namworld, bummer 741129;1404338873;nubbins`;better call the cops 741130;1404338879;Namworld;No, Coinroll did no such thing. But apparently his losses aren't legit and Scrat owes him. 741131;1404338887;kakobrekla;kyuupichan blockr.io 741132;1404338940;Namworld;Normally I'd think the guy is a retard because I'm not the right nor wealthiest target in this... but that's what makes it worse. I imagine a retard could well decide to go gangster and show up. 741133;1404338940;justusranvier;First mistake: having a Facebook account 741134;1404338940;mircea_popescu;uh. 741135;1404338958;fluffypony;lol 741136;1404338964;davout;jurov mircea_popescu french/dutch/nigerian by adoption = a fun world cup 741137;1404338967;fluffypony;I kinda agree with justusranvier 741138;1404338972;fluffypony;Facebook is the devil 741139;1404338982;mircea_popescu;dude these pics i made yest kick all conceivable ass 741140;1404339017;mircea_popescu;Namworld maybe it';s a hot chick and you end up with a new, fiery girlfriend ? 741141;1404339029;Namworld;eh 741142;1404339206;justusranvier;Second mistake: logging into IRC with your home cable modem's IP address exposed. 741143;1404339314;Namworld;I don't really hide my idendity. Never have, never wanted to. Anymore than mircea tries to hide anything about who he is. I don't have anything to hide. If I wanted something not known, it wouldn't be known. 741144;1404339328;Namworld;My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name. 741145;1404339337;Namworld;There was a guy who at first claimed his son gambled his BTC on Coinroll, it's illegal, refund it. Was very insisting. Then another claimed Scrat stole the money and laundered it on his website (no idea how he knew the address his "stolen" BTC went to was a Coinroll address). Then some guy threatening legal action to me directly, having dug up my info. I told him I don't own or have 741146;1404339337;Namworld;access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live... 741147;1404339390;Namworld;They all sounded alike... not sure if I should laugh, or fear a retard actually showing up... Even if he comes for me, the guy will still be a retard. 741148;1404339442;justusranvier;As the exchange rate of Bitcoin increases, so will the incentive of those who are inclined to use extortion, kidnapping, ransom, lawsuits, etc in order to obtain it. 741149;1404339464;davout;Namworld: retards don't actually do the things they threaten about 741150;1404339490;davout;justusranvier: lawsuits <<< okay 741151;1404339499;Namworld;Some retards do, thinking it's actually a good idea. Fortunately that's not too common... 741152;1404339518;justusranvier;Yeah, lawsuits is redundant with extortion 741153;1404339548;davout;Namworld: meh, if the guy is that retarded how do you expect him to gather your address from your facebook 741154;1404339559;Namworld;@justusranvier Yes about exchange rate, apparently so. I've told the guy he didn't make sense. I'm not the one owning him and if he wanted to extort someone, there's better targets that are just as public. 741155;1404339605;Namworld;I have my address right there on whois. The guy has known it for months. 741156;1404339752;Namworld;He doesn't show up tho. All I get is IRC threats and addresses to make payments to... 741157;1404339923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1869998 = 0.561 BTC [+] 741158;1404339956;davout;Namworld: well, pay him or tell him to fuck off i guess 741159;1404340003;davout;or maybe just send him a drawing of a spider as payment :3 741160;1404340018;Namworld;I told him basically just that. That's his threats are pointless and not at the right target. 741161;1404340062;davout;no no, that's trying to use some sort of logic, just "fuck off" i meant 741162;1404340069;benkay;urgh bitbet and mpif are now so tangled 741163;1404340090;benkay;only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav 741164;1404340094;Namworld;It's not gonna magically make his money appear. If he's serious he can just come to beat me and rob me, but it wouldn't be really any different than any other house robbery. 741165;1404340125;benkay;kyuupichan: what's going on with blockchain today? 741166;1404340140;davout;benkay: just not working 741167;1404340208;jurov;benkay gotta put some specially crafted bet related to mpif to close the loop 741168;1404340315;Namworld;I'm surprised jurov/wao haven't received threats already. I'm sure they'll start coming in from random people soon enough. 741169;1404340400;jurov;i don't disagree, you just happen to be most visible and in a country with most prone law system 741170;1404340498;Namworld;yes, legal threats are obviously easy. Doubt it would fly in court when I have no control on Coinroll. Would probably be instantly dismissed, I hope. 741171;1404340506;jurov;btw, how exactly is your situation different from dooglus' ? 741172;1404340592;jurov;"no control" i see, but investment and/or cooperation still falls under that law? 741173;1404340597;Namworld;It's not different. I can't operate Coinroll in Canada, hence why I refused to take it over. Scrat offered it for free to me and someone else. Me being in Canada and other in US, we refused. 741174;1404340649;Namworld;Well it might be potentially illegal in Canada to operate. But it's not illegal in all jurisdiction and as far as I know, foreign investment is not forbidden. 741175;1404340716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15572 @ 0.00081895 = 12.7527 BTC [-] {2} 741176;1404340751;Namworld;Aka, I can't own/operate most BTC things in Canada without license. But there's never been anything preventing investment in legal foreign companies... 741177;1404340859;jurov;are you required to disclose such investment? 741178;1404340861;Namworld;Maybe one could prosecute me because it's not registered. Maybe some zealous prosecutor could try to argue I'm an owner. But it wouldn't make much sense. It wouldn't close the business nor prevent operations. 741179;1404340882;Namworld;I don't control/operate it. 741180;1404340907;Namworld;I might have to disclose it. Something I'll have to investigate how to do. 741181;1404340937;Namworld;One thing I know I'd have to disclose is any income/profit, obviously. The taxman will want a cut. 741182;1404341003;fluffypony;what 741183;1404341004;fluffypony;this is stupid 741184;1404341005;fluffypony;http://blog.coinbase.com/post/90552757447/the-future-of-bitcoin-storage-wallets-vaults 741185;1404341005;assbot;The Coinbase Blog The Future of Bitcoin Storage: Wallets + Vaults 741186;1404341023;fluffypony;do no coinbase users know about NLockTime? 741187;1404341031;mircea_popescu;i would wager not. 741188;1404341052;davout;"do no coinbase users know" <<< that sentence could have stopped right here 741189;1404341054;Namworld;Most news article about Bitcoin and especially "what is the future/good for BTC" is stupid, fluffypony 741190;1404341071;Namworld;mircea_popescu, if it's not too indiscrete to ask, with the fortune you've accumulated in BTC so far, haven't you received threats/extortion demands so far? 741191;1404341102;mircea_popescu; access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live... << so tell him the same lol 741192;1404341142;mircea_popescu;but anyway, you're running into what i'll call from now on the andreas proble, 741193;1404341157;mircea_popescu;it goes like this : you wanna play with the adults, you gotta wear adult breeches. 741194;1404341174;mircea_popescu;can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you. 741195;1404341186;mircea_popescu;don't have a team of lawyers on each fucking continent ? stfu, bitcoin is not for you. etc. 741196;1404341262;mircea_popescu;<benkay> only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav << building the finances of a nation here naimean ? 741197;1404341331;mircea_popescu;Namworld of course i have. i also enjoy killing people. 741198;1404341425;Namworld;I somehow thought so, eh 741199;1404341473;mircea_popescu;exactly how beaten up should a would-be robber/etc be before he's been beaten up too much is a matter the courts never quite carved out. 741200;1404341488;mircea_popescu;you can probably not take a whole week doing it, but then again most schmucks wouldn't last a week anyway. 741201;1404341697;benkay;a week isn't a beating, that's torture. 741202;1404341707;mircea_popescu;o it is ? 741203;1404341707;benkay;and if you can't make a torturing go on for a week... 741204;1404341718;benkay;well gosh am i really talking to the real mp? 741205;1404341736;mircea_popescu;i guess the date the guy got caught must have been misreported then. 741206;1404341739;mircea_popescu;shit happens. 741207;1404341773;benkay;i'm sure a beating could go on for a full week, but what do you have after a day? pulp? 741208;1404341779;benkay;mircea_popescu: you'd know, not i 741209;1404341806;mircea_popescu;hey, it's namworld's friend we're talking about. che c'entro io 741210;1404342032;BingoBoingo;%d 741211;1404342033;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 582285.14 in 431 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 13.84 741212;1404342034;BingoBoingo;%p 741213;1404342035;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10769.11 GH/s 741214;1404342944;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Life can't catch a break 741215;1404343005;mike_c;there have been some good fights for the bombs, but death's have been more effective. 741216;1404343037;mike_c;whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it 741217;1404343115;*;BingoBoingo doesn't know who could have seeded the death pot... 741218;1404343122;*;BingoBoingo looks shifty atm 741219;1404343292;mike_c;hehe. well good bet whoever it was :) 741220;1404343357;BingoBoingo;There's still time for life to try something bombwise in a sustained manner. 741221;1404343390;BingoBoingo;I suspect the earliest bombs really set the stage though 741222;1404343448;mike_c;life is very scattered. needs some good bombs to connect those islands 741223;1404343510;benkay; whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it // ohyou.png 741224;1404343527;BingoBoingo;2 Death No 4, 37 Small, prolly really set the stage... 741225;1404343607;Namworld;!up diablo-d3 741226;1404343642;Diablo-D3;[06:15:33] My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name. 741227;1404343645;Diablo-D3;I dont hide mine either 741228;1404343710;mircea_popescu;!up bgupta 741229;1404344010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.03079906 = 0.7392 BTC [-] 741230;1404344097;mircea_popescu;!up pi07r 741231;1404344491;BingoBoingo;t 741232;1404344496;BingoBoingo;%t 741233;1404344497;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 796k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 285 741234;1404344510;mircea_popescu;pankkake i took that test in spite of it starting with a retarded question. "Your top match for Which Atlas Shrugged character are you? is: John Galt" 741235;1404344524;BingoBoingo;%book 741236;1404344525;atcbot;18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 899k@199 500k@151 175k@142 741237;1404344539;mircea_popescu;but i'm 69% dagny so perhaps we got something there. 741238;1404344701;pankkake;my second choice was dagny too 741239;1404344793;mircea_popescu;actually my 2nd is Hank Rearden (95%) 741240;1404344800;mircea_popescu;i guess i gotta break down and read this book now 741241;1404344803;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 70 @ 0.03079906 = 2.1559 BTC [-] 741242;1404344804;mircea_popescu;!up statdude_ 741243;1404344864;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15053 @ 0.00082086 = 12.3564 BTC [+] 741244;1404344925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.0175 = 1.225 BTC [-] {2} 741245;1404344961;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/ 741246;1404345009;benkay;mircea_popescu: that's not thoth? 741247;1404345021;mircea_popescu;hm? 741248;1404345026;benkay;the teacher 741249;1404345133;mircea_popescu;hm?!! 741250;1404345286;benkay;man do you just write a post and then purge it from your brain? 741251;1404345292;benkay; New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/ 741252;1404345293;assbot;Colonia, Uruguay pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 741253;1404345390;mircea_popescu;oh oh 741254;1404345395;mircea_popescu;i dunno, you think ?! 741255;1404345404;benkay;first think i thunk 741256;1404345412;BingoBoingo;benkay: Maybe if you wrote a post you could purge ninjashogun from your brain? 741257;1404345419;mircea_popescu;seems improbable to me, but who knows 741258;1404345419;benkay;i don't write posts no mo. 741259;1404345431;benkay;gotta take that thing down. 741260;1404345499;benkay;i'd rather write emails instructing clients on the correct course of action and get paid for such than...blog. 741261;1404345516;benkay;don't really see why i should flatten out the information asymmetry either. 741262;1404345568;mircea_popescu;because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres. 741263;1404345579;BingoBoingo;Oh, it is the parts of the information you flatten that matter 741264;1404345834;benkay; because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres. // pardon? i thought reducing asymmetry made for more efficient markets. 741265;1404345873;mircea_popescu;if nobody publihes anything mr foreskinhead can continue to pretend like he's "advising" "clients". 741266;1404345878;mircea_popescu;so can lew rockwell. 741267;1404345908;mircea_popescu;so can keiser. you were here when the a/b trick was explained no ? 741268;1404345923;benkay;mhm, i'm familiar. 741269;1404345924;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/ 741270;1404345925;assbot;How to make money on the Internet while pretending you know what you’re talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 741271;1404345970;benkay;i also don't have anything to say about things anymore. 741272;1404345978;benkay;so diff goes up - so what. 741273;1404345987;mircea_popescu;it's a skill. 741274;1404345992;benkay;so price is highly volataile, so what. 741275;1404345995;mircea_popescu;lol when's the last time i said something about that. 741276;1404346053;benkay;i don't really care to put my life online either. 741277;1404346074;benkay;at one point, one of the side goals was to leave a hole in the internet when i got disappeared, but now i'm just working on getting out of dodge. 741278;1404346112;benkay;i figure -assets will notice, and that's all that really matters. 741279;1404346341;benkay;lol okay so dig this 741280;1404346369;benkay;the local art school - Pacific Northwest College of Smoking Cigarettes and Being a Hipster opened up a new dorm downtown with a neat little cafe in the bottom. 741281;1404346385;benkay;i stop in, figuring - hey, art school, coffee, wine, surely there will be some cuties around 741282;1404346419;benkay;but i guess the shit's too expensive for the students, as there's not a school-aged soul in the place during work hours 741283;1404346483;mircea_popescu;haha 741284;1404346503;mircea_popescu;so put up a poster : wanna hang out here but too hip to afford it ? call me. 741285;1404346602;benkay;lol not bad 741286;1404346877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00081915 = 23.5096 BTC [-] {3} 741287;1404347121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.01412781 = 0.6358 BTC [-] {5} 741288;1404347207;nubbins`;the weather's been really nice this week, and it has awakened a deep thirst 741289;1404347243;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03716272 = 1.3007 BTC [-] {7} 741290;1404347253;mircea_popescu;nudie beach ? 741291;1404347260;nubbins`;nah, just drinking a lot 741292;1404347365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.03079906 = 0.9548 BTC [-] 741293;1404347426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5578 @ 0.0008122 = 4.5305 BTC [-] 741294;1404347436;nubbins`;capelin are rolling now anyway, beaches are gross 741295;1404347437;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phL9yAfb9H8 741296;1404347438;assbot;Capelin Rolling - Newfoundland & Labrador - YouTube 741297;1404347609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 31 @ 0.0175 = 0.5425 BTC [-] {3} 741298;1404348036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12972 @ 0.00081495 = 10.5715 BTC [+] {2} 741299;1404348146;benkay;http://lafalafu.com/krc/privilege.html 741300;1404348146;assbot;The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist 741301;1404348438;bitstein;Hilarious 741302;1404349317;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14078 @ 0.00081372 = 11.4556 BTC [-] {2} 741303;1404349712;asciilifeform;i guess i gotta break down and read this book now << never read it before!? epic porn! 741304;1404350271;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you << alternatively, be boring. (works for me so far) 741305;1404350440;mircea_popescu;so here's a business idea : go by hospitals with trauma centers, buy amputated parts off amputees in order to cure the skin and make real human skin items 741306;1404350446;mircea_popescu;such as i dunno, bikinis. and lampshades. 741307;1404350449;mircea_popescu;!up GunPlay 741308;1404350461;mircea_popescu;GunPlay you're not some sort of deranged pua are you ? 741309;1404350466;asciilifeform;http://www.humanleather.co.uk << almost 741310;1404350467;assbot;Human Leather Exclusive Products - Exquisite Wallets, Belts, Shoes 741311;1404350475;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform always been too lazy 741312;1404350500;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Most amputees around here any more... Tend to be amputees because of conditions manifesting in the skin. 741313;1404350504;GunPlay;haha pick up artist? 741314;1404350535;mircea_popescu;nm that dude was gunwitch 741315;1404350541;*;asciilifeform owns a briefcase full of various tweezers, can pick up anything! 741316;1404350543;GunPlay;lol 741317;1404350564;GunPlay;my nick comes from playing first person shooters a lot back in the day 741318;1404350566;mircea_popescu;"The freedom to apply for a job at your partner's workplace without worrying that others will think you only got the job because of your partner." 741319;1404350567;GunPlay;quake 1 741320;1404350571;mircea_popescu;what are these people, retarded ? 741321;1404350611;mircea_popescu;"Telling someone to RTFM without being accused of PMS." this is, incidentally, older than all those involved. 741322;1404350618;mircea_popescu;pretty sure it survives intact since the old codex. 741323;1404350634;benkay;old codex? 741324;1404350662;asciilifeform;s/codex/testament ? 741325;1404350713;benkay;ah yes "go to the back of the column until you're fit to associate with humans again" 741326;1404350721;mircea_popescu;nono the jargon file 741327;1404350769;asciilifeform;what are these people, retarded << not exactly. this crud is at least as old as 'poenitentiam agite.' 741328;1404350916;mircea_popescu;GunPlay wait, you're the guy mthreat mentioned ? 741329;1404350918;mircea_popescu;!s gnuplay 741330;1404350918;assbot;0 results for 'gnuplay' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gnuplay 741331;1404350960;mircea_popescu;ah no, danielpbarron yest. 741332;1404351059;benkay;asciilifeform: what's a good name for the statal organizations who encourage citizens to report each other for 'infractions'? 741333;1404351115;asciilifeform;benkay: different names, depending on the cultural flavour of the particular example 741334;1404351180;asciilifeform;benkay: just as a 'samurai' isn't quite the same animal as european 'knight,' a soviet стукач isn't entirely the same species as a new york 'stoolie' - etc. 741335;1404351286;asciilifeform;'стукач' ~= 'one who knocks' (implication, on the 'right door') 741336;1404351424;mthreat;mircea_popescu: no that guy works at bitpay, it turns out 741337;1404351464;mircea_popescu;lol k 741338;1404351503;mircea_popescu;;;prevdiff 741339;1404351507;gribble;13462580114.5 741340;1404351526;GunPlay;mircea_popescu: naw, I don't know mthreat 741341;1404351531;mircea_popescu;;;diff 741342;1404351531;gribble;1.6818461371161112E10 741343;1404351557;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 741344;1404351559;gribble;Current Blocks: 308950 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1513 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15773777899.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.21153 741345;1404351590;GunPlay;danielpbarron suggested I join this channel and learn about Bitcoin via mostly experts 741346;1404351613;GunPlay;good stuff, I'll just lurk for a while I suppose :-) 741347;1404351693;BingoBoingo;GunPlay: That doesn't hurt, but also throwing things out in the channel can be productive 741348;1404351855;BingoBoingo;Jobs that exist: Corn thing edition http://sidespin.kinja.com/terrible-jobs-ive-had-detasseling-886639615?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=wednesdayPM 741349;1404351856;assbot;Terrible Jobs I've Had: Detasseling 741350;1404351889;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/0ec79cc9c0f2a0fc8e28741a062e3f36/tumblr_mf37luSEjK1rnk53bo1_500.jpg 741351;1404351906;mircea_popescu;there, i've thrown out a very unfortunate young lady. 741352;1404351961;asciilifeform;why unfortunate 741353;1404351969;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbacaga38b1r3grd2o1_500.jpg 741354;1404351973;mircea_popescu;compare and contrast. 741355;1404352095;benkay;GunPlay: per BingoBoingo's comment above, being wrong is not a crime here. refusing to listen to reason, though... 741356;1404352222;GunPlay;benkay: haha, that makes sense 741357;1404352240;mike_c;%p 741358;1404352242;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s 741359;1404352256;GunPlay;well, I mention to danielpbarron that I was interesting in people doing Bitcoin projects 741360;1404352275;GunPlay;new ideas, implementations, products, both free or not 741361;1404352297;GunPlay;sorry for the misspellings, meant to say interested 741362;1404352311;GunPlay;daniel said I should hang out here 741363;1404352340;GunPlay;that a lot of you guys are driving Bitcoin development in some way, whether directly or through community 741364;1404352363;mircea_popescu;;;topic 741365;1404352363;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 741366;1404352363;BingoBoingo;GunPlay: The occasional spelling or grammar slip is fine. I'm drunk here occasionally. 741367;1404352369;mircea_popescu;lot of good stuff in the logs GunPlay 741368;1404352383;GunPlay;ah, cool, I'll check 'em out 741369;1404352404;mircea_popescu;!s coinfront 741370;1404352405;assbot;4 results for 'coinfront' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coinfront 741371;1404352431;mircea_popescu;o those derps. mkay. 741372;1404352469;GunPlay;BingoBoingo: I look forward to your drunken rants ;-) 741373;1404352481;BingoBoingo;There's plenty in the logs 741374;1404352489;GunPlay;lol 741375;1404352607;BingoBoingo;Also on the blog 741376;1404352734;[]bot;Bet created: "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold " http://bitbet.us/bet/976/ 741377;1404352848;[]bot;Bet created: "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/977/ 741378;1404352929;mircea_popescu;;;rated dooglus 741379;1404352930;gribble;You rated user dooglus on Mon Apr 22 15:22:55 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Does useful things.. 741380;1404352944;[]bot;Bet created: "Bond Bubble Bursts" http://bitbet.us/bet/978/ 741381;1404352954;mircea_popescu;;;rate dooglus 3 Truly a pillar of the community. 741382;1404352956;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dooglus has changed from 2 to 3. 741383;1404353029;[]bot;Bet created: "Japanese Government Bond Bubble Bursts" http://bitbet.us/bet/979/ 741384;1404353063;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 9B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/980/ 741385;1404353166;benkay;no community, only capitalism. 741386;1404353343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47712 @ 0.00081656 = 38.9597 BTC [+] {4} 741387;1404353655;BingoBoingo;%d 741388;1404353656;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 600351.50 in 355 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 17.37 741389;1404353777;mike_c;gotta love that stabilization :) 741390;1404353893;mircea_popescu;lol 741391;1404354002;BingoBoingo;%t 741392;1404354003;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 787k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 286 741393;1404354022;BingoBoingo;Is this "stabilization" going to happen after every time I make a monthly statement? 741394;1404354059;mike_c;pool hoppers are subscribed to your blog rss 741395;1404354083;mircea_popescu;lol 741396;1404354367;BingoBoingo;Watch the difficulty drop mid month, because It's been too long since I made a statement 741397;1404354578;BingoBoingo;%ob 741398;1404354580;atcbot;18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 898k@199 500k@151 175k@142 741399;1404354665;BingoBoingo;https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ << I wonder if extinction might happen this round 741400;1404354666;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 741401;1404354867;mike_c;catch a falling dagger and you could make out 741402;1404354931;BingoBoingo;I just wonder if some Life bagholder is going to start bombing like hell 741403;1404354941;mike_c;hehe. after you go to sleep of course 741404;1404354972;mike_c;ouch, it's a blood bath on the life side 741405;1404355044;BingoBoingo;Well, the first random and first paid bombs really set the tone 741406;1404355144;mike_c;game's been going for 14 hours.. "expected" time for this # of frames is 49 hours. speed WoL! 741407;1404355397;BingoBoingo;Indeed 741408;1404356370;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: "Amazon also will capitulate. Rejection reason: Consider submitting with paid wager." 741409;1404356383;kyuupichan;I did submit a paid wager, and you refunded it. I assume you mean you want a bigger one? 741410;1404356427;kyuupichan;Twas 0.1 BTC. 741411;1404356582;BingoBoingo;The prolly wanted a bigger one seeing how little traction that sort of proposition gets on its own 741412;1404356645;nubbins`;^ 741413;1404357125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.03881338 = 0.5434 BTC [-] {2} 741414;1404357369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00081657 = 15.7598 BTC [+] {2} 741415;1404359169;moiety;mew 741416;1404359180;moiety;didja miss me? 741417;1404359317;justusranvier;https://twitter.com/altcoin_borat 741418;1404359318;assbot;Altcoin Borat (altcoin_borat) auf Twitter 741419;1404359544;BingoBoingo;moiety: Some shit site is ripping off the trend http://offbeat.topix.com/story/12832 741420;1404359545;assbot;This Cat Makes The Best Faces In The Whole Wide World. 741421;1404359586;moiety;BingoBoingo: doyou have any news for me? 741422;1404359604;BingoBoingo;moiety: No new news yet. Which isn't a bad thing 741423;1404359662;moiety;can i just say i do no. 8 regularly 741424;1404359687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00081375 = 3.1329 BTC [+] 741425;1404359722;moiety;no no not a bad thing at all. means they havent delievered the bad news to the otherws yet :D 741426;1404359742;moiety;can i also sat no 9. is my usual dau to day face lol 741427;1404359746;moiety;say* 741428;1404359792;BingoBoingo;lol 741429;1404359925;danielpbarron;hi, GunPlay 741430;1404360033;bloctoc;Yellen is turning out to be very good for bitcoin indeed! 741431;1404360054;bloctoc;Satoshi/Yellen for president 741432;1404360077;nubbins`;jannit yellin 741433;1404360399;bloctoc;Draper in Financial Times. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c2b48d2c-01ec-11e4-bb71-00144feab7de.html#axzz36NGFo5Ls 741434;1404360399;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 741435;1404361080;moiety;BingoBoingo: has there been any other news... i see nothing other than the usual he said, she said derpiness 741436;1404361096;BingoBoingo;Not really 741437;1404361111;moiety;oh and can we play chess? (quite drunk - determined to beat you) 741438;1404361202;BingoBoingo;K, let me set up a board 741439;1404361245;moiety;omg really? now? you did not say yes... im getting a board ready just in case 741440;1404361260;BingoBoingo;moiety: Wait there was a sie wasn't there 741441;1404361390;BingoBoingo;moiety: Remembered http://www.chess.com was a thing so we dun fill the logs up 741442;1404361390;assbot;Play Chess Online - Free Chess Games at Chess.com 741443;1404361418;*;BingoBoingo mixes another drink 741444;1404361444;BingoBoingo;!up Pasha 741445;1404361528;moiety;yaya k so whats the level of drunk 0-10? 741446;1404361545;moiety;level of drunk of the BingoBoingo i mean 741447;1404361557;BingoBoingo;Prolly a 4 741448;1404361576;moiety;ah fuck.... k .... be kind then 741449;1404361614;BingoBoingo;Coul be 6 by the end of the game 741450;1404362125;moiety;BB: why is it telling me every move i make is illegal 741451;1404362245;BingoBoingo;moiety: That's a good question 741452;1404362270;BingoBoingo;What sort of thing were we playing on again? 741453;1404362384;moiety;lol 741454;1404362390;moiety;chess? 741455;1404362408;BingoBoingo;K, are we using the website? 741456;1404362411;moiety;but any move i make it says its illegal 741457;1404362444;BingoBoingo;moiety: Are we on the same site? 741458;1404362455;moiety;yeah i went to the link you gave 741459;1404362462;moiety;says you challenged me 741460;1404362468;BingoBoingo;Maybe you have to accept the invitation to the game or something? 741461;1404362494;moiety;yeah i do that and get to the game no bother 741462;1404362569;BingoBoingo;Hmmm. moiety Maybe start another game and invire me this time? Maybe this site is jsut retarded 741463;1404362665;BingoBoingo;moiety: Seems to maybe be working now. 741464;1404362674;moiety;o no im just being dumb, think thats me in the game now 741465;1404362678;moiety;aye 741466;1404362750;moiety;jesus this is ultra fancy compared to our last board 741467;1404362757;BingoBoingo;Ah 741468;1404362798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00081375 = 8.0154 BTC [+] 741469;1404362920;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00081375 = 28.0744 BTC [+] {2} 741470;1404363094;BingoBoingo;%t 741471;1404363095;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 205k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 294 741472;1404363896;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0008144 = 2.1989 BTC [+] 741473;1404363900;moiety;i swear you have extra bits than i do when we begin a game BingoBoingo 741474;1404363927;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, anyone who bet life in WoL this round is prolly swearing moar 741475;1404364112;moiety;aha! 741476;1404364170;moiety;did you just take one of my bits? 741477;1404364199;BingoBoingo;Yup 741478;1404364210;moiety;i knew it! 741479;1404364219;BingoBoingo;And another 741480;1404364221;moiety;get back you 741481;1404364229;moiety;omg 741482;1404364311;BingoBoingo;moiety: You know... at some point you can start taking stuff too 741483;1404364370;moiety;ach weesht! I'm trying! 741484;1404364395;BingoBoingo;moiety: Nao you have to take a piece 741485;1404364412;moiety;i did ..i did!!!! 741486;1404364445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00081284 = 14.9563 BTC [-] 741487;1404364446;BingoBoingo;There you go. You're scottish. You dun have to be English sort of polite 741488;1404364531;moiety;shall i send you a "take me nao" tshirt? 741489;1404364559;BingoBoingo;Maybe? 741490;1404364705;BingoBoingo;moiety: After this game Imma get drunker and you're going to need to show aggression in the next game 741491;1404364940;moiety;how have you got a manny down on my homne row 741492;1404364940;BingoBoingo;!up ericmuyser 741493;1404364978;BingoBoingo;moiety: Quite a few... You know sometimes you can move them out of the way (you can also flip the board to see what I see) 741494;1404365025;moiety;oh aye i just found the board flipping things.... i can move them out of the way?! 741495;1404365116;BingoBoingo;Well, when its your tune to move if I've threatened something... moving it to safety is an option 741496;1404365177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 32 @ 0.01702034 = 0.5447 BTC [-] {8} 741497;1404365236;BingoBoingo;http://www.earthtouchnews.com/media/179015/06_02_2014_manul_Pallass-cat_1_GalleryLarge.jpg 741498;1404365250;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan yeah, generally those sorts of bets struggle to even cross 1 btc total. 741499;1404365292;mircea_popescu;nobody really seems to care, see http://bitbet.us/bet/805/newegg-to-accept-btc-in-2014/ 741500;1404365293;assbot;BitBet - Newegg to accept BTC in 2014 :: 0.07 B (50%) on Yes, 0.07 B (50%) on No | closed 3 hours 36 minutes ago 741501;1404365345;benkay;where is the search engine i type in "thing i want".pdf and it gives it to me? 741502;1404365348;mircea_popescu;also, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72aglvFpd1rosrwvo1_500.jpg 741503;1404365361;mircea_popescu;!up Cory 741504;1404365363;benkay;nom 741505;1404365448;mircea_popescu;benkay free independant woman ftw. 741506;1404365512;benkay;schroeder's buffet bio's decentish 741507;1404365543;mircea_popescu;moiety so how goes ? 741508;1404365671;moiety;mircea_popescu: hello! so happy to finally have non intermittent interwebs (arrived today), nothing exciting. how are you? 741509;1404365684;mircea_popescu;pretty good 741510;1404365811;mircea_popescu;discovering how ba actually looks a lot like san diego 741511;1404365816;mircea_popescu;i think they have a complex. 741512;1404365827;moiety;i missed you all! 741513;1404365832;moiety;san diego? 741514;1404365882;mircea_popescu;ya 741515;1404365926;cazalla;heh won knc bet, who would've thought 741516;1404365958;moiety;BingoBoingo: offs.. srs? i have like no bits left! 741517;1404365983;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3u4g9XCRH1qfslojo1_500.jpg 741518;1404365997;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well you could resign or offer a draw and try again next game 741519;1404366015;moiety;"which of these chicks has a natural tan?!" 741520;1404366041;moiety;noooooooooooo BingoBoingo i shall lose squarely tyvm! 741521;1404366053;mircea_popescu;moiety they all look kinda natural no ? 741522;1404366081;moiety;my point exactly mircea_popescu :P 741523;1404366094;BingoBoingo;moiety: In that case you need to lose more bits this game so you protect them more ferverently next 741524;1404366096;mircea_popescu;hehe 741525;1404366103;mircea_popescu;kinda lanky awkward central. 741526;1404366118;moiety;but nipples.... so... eh? 741527;1404366129;mircea_popescu;lol brits and their eh 741528;1404366135;mircea_popescu;universal key of language, eh ? 741529;1404366142;moiety;eh 741530;1404366145;*;moiety nods 741531;1404366149;BingoBoingo;rolfbbqomg 741532;1404366174;mircea_popescu;bbqeh. 741533;1404366179;mircea_popescu;con queso. 741534;1404366189;BingoBoingo;%d 741535;1404366190;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 626104.23 in 254 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 22.40 741536;1404366197;BingoBoingo;%t 741537;1404366199;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 204k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 295 741538;1404366236;BingoBoingo;%ob 741539;1404366237;atcbot;18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 51k@200 898k@199 500k@151 741540;1404366275;mircea_popescu;;;calc (2.67295072 - 2.24502432) / 272079.90524245 741541;1404366275;gribble;1.57279678416e-06 741542;1404366280;mircea_popescu;that's pretty good innit. 741543;1404366310;BingoBoingo;Looka like it 741544;1404366315;mircea_popescu;cool. 741545;1404366339;mircea_popescu;this entire reporting business i tell you... it's getting pretty thick. 741546;1404366346;BingoBoingo;Yeah 741547;1404366367;BingoBoingo;Soon, most of your month will be consumed by statements 741548;1404366369;mircea_popescu;almost done with mpif not even halfway there. 741549;1404366374;mircea_popescu;ya lol 741550;1404366438;moiety;BingoBoingo: have you got me in a point where i cant move? 741551;1404366469;mircea_popescu;what's this, impregnation chess ? 741552;1404366505;BingoBoingo;moiety: You have to move your king, because check 741553;1404366518;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Not atm that I'm aware of 741554;1404366542;moiety;fucking better not be 741555;1404366587;moiety;ok i did something, no idea what but it was the only thing i could move 741556;1404366655;BingoBoingo;Well, it happens 741557;1404366706;BingoBoingo;You can take a thing nao at least? 741558;1404367055;moiety;i did.... but i think it wasn't the best move to make... but im struggling cus, well, you know, you have ALL THE REST! 741559;1404367094;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, now you know why you need to retaliate when I take your pieces 741560;1404367117;moiety;ya, moseying across the board doesnt cut it any more 741561;1404367162;BingoBoingo;Well, life is far more precarious than it was this point last round in the other game https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ 741562;1404367163;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 741563;1404367221;penguirker;New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-june-2014/ 741564;1404367312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6687 @ 0.0008143 = 5.4452 BTC [+] 741565;1404367797;BingoBoingo;moiety: GG 741566;1404367831;moiety;wait 741567;1404367832;moiety;how 741568;1404367835;moiety;wut 741569;1404367837;moiety;fuck 741570;1404367848;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/ some adjustments to btcalpha required. 741571;1404367851;assbot;F.MPIF, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 741572;1404367851;gribble;The operation succeeded. 741573;1404367859;moiety;thank you for being patient BingoBoingo 741574;1404367861;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9059 @ 0.0008143 = 7.3767 BTC [+] 741575;1404367886;mircea_popescu;0.00021760 vs 0.00021734 tho so quite close. 741576;1404367911;BingoBoingo;moiety: You're welcome 741577;1404368007;moiety;sorry i don't give such a good game, I will some day. i promise you that! 741578;1404368069;moiety;!up RagnarDanneskjol 741579;1404368120;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, you can give it a go as white nao 741580;1404368209;moiety;:D 741581;1404368650;moiety;BingoBoingo: i have no idea why i just did that last one ok... it just /is/ 741582;1404368663;BingoBoingo;Well, things... 741583;1404368674;BingoBoingo;just sort do what they do 741584;1404368901;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/ 741585;1404369026;BingoBoingo;moiety: Good game 741586;1404369043;moiety;wut? already? i thought i was doing better this time! 741587;1404369099;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, you kept more bits, but... You kind forgot to protect the important one. 741588;1404369170;moiety;ya.. i'm not quite at the stage of thinking ahead to what you will do next. i don't quite see how to protect that back bit without moving folk out 741589;1404369263;BingoBoingo;Well, you've to to worry about the center of the board a bit more. Rooks are fun when you get them out, but... Early in the game they really dun have anywhere to go 741590;1404369321;moiety;my strategy so far as to: make a gap and then destroy all i can with the queen. sometimes this works sometimes it really doesnt 741591;1404369373;moiety;you always move your horse dudes pretty early. i must think about them more 741592;1404369380;BingoBoingo;Well, queen can get took too. 741593;1404369411;moiety;i like her cus shes pretty bi and can go loads of ways though 741594;1404369417;BingoBoingo;Horses are really dangerous early in the game because they can jump over the junk clogging things up 741595;1404369442;moiety;can they jump over anything? 741596;1404369457;BingoBoingo;Well, as long as they have a spot to land on 741597;1404369555;BingoBoingo;%p 741598;1404369557;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 12504.27 GH/s 741599;1404369911;moiety;dude, how do you leap across the board like that -_- 741600;1404369976;moiety;you won already 741601;1404369980;moiety;duuuuude 741602;1404370126;BingoBoingo;Well, practice 741603;1404370667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00081604 = 12.4038 BTC [+] {2} 741604;1404370944;moiety;i'll play you and win one day, BingoBoingo 741605;1404370957;BingoBoingo;moiety: Of course 741606;1404371071;moiety;if you could feign some form of "oh well i really didn't see that coming" that would be fabulous 741607;1404371094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00081374 = 12.2875 BTC [-] {3} 741608;1404371131;moiety;did you see bill gates play the current world grand master? lost in under two minutes i think 741609;1404371201;BingoBoingo;moiety: Yeah I saw the Bill gates thing. Maybe soon I'll be able to do the feigning as you requested, but... drunk 741610;1404371969;BingoBoingo;%tslb 741611;1404371971;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 741612;1404371979;BingoBoingo;%diff 741613;1404371979;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 635112.62 in 215 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 24.16 741614;1404372362;punkman;BingoBoingo: I see the bombing paid off 741615;1404372393;BingoBoingo;punkman: Early on, now it seems simply that life is the biggest hazard to itself 741616;1404372421;punkman;the game's going faster than usual eh 741617;1404372439;BingoBoingo;Well, ATC is goig faster than usual 741618;1404373961;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00081791 = 34.3522 BTC [+] {4} 741619;1404374517;moiety;BingoBoingo: is it very boring to play people that aren't at your level? 741620;1404374671;kyuupichan;;;bc,stats 741621;1404374673;gribble;Current Blocks: 308992 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1471 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16057522539.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.52443 741622;1404374687;kyuupichan;I'll be stunned if we get a diff fall this period, but we're well on course for it 741623;1404375913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18175107 = 0.9088 BTC [-] {3} 741624;1404376096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [-] 741625;1404376462;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.00081926 = 32.8114 BTC [+] {3} 741626;1404376645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.181751 = 1.0905 BTC [-] 741627;1404377072;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00082106 = 1.1905 BTC [+] {2} 741628;1404377194;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5758 @ 0.00082138 = 4.7295 BTC [+] 741629;1404377621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00082138 = 11.7457 BTC [+] 741630;1404379746;jurov;;;calc 2186753/186753 741631;1404379747;gribble;11.7093326479 741632;1404379752;jurov;er 741633;1404379770;jurov;;;calc 475.281614687/2186753 741634;1404379770;gribble;0.000217345815777 741635;1404379784;jurov;;;calc 475.281614687/2186753*1.01 741636;1404379785;gribble;0.000219519273934 741637;1404379791;jurov;;;calc 475.281614687/2186753/1.01 741638;1404379791;gribble;0.000215193877007 741639;1404379843;jurov;!mpif 741640;1404379844;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 741641;1404379860;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK - still, no one bets Yes 741642;1404379860;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (35%) on Yes, 2.44 B (65%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 83`555 (100`000 to 1) 741643;1404379884;jurov;mike_c ^^ quite a diference from the report 741644;1404379894;jurov;*monthly report 741645;1404379933;jurov;i take it back, actually not 741646;1404379949;jurov;should have bfast and coffee first 741647;1404384514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00081961 = 6.393 BTC [-] 741648;1404384697;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00081921 = 10.322 BTC [-] {2} 741649;1404386283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.03710885 = 1.4844 BTC [-] {9} 741650;1404386589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18749994 = 1.875 BTC [+] {3} 741651;1404387747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008214 = 4.107 BTC [+] {2} 741652;1404387922;Naphex;davout: grats on merchant feat 741653;1404388046;punkman;best time to move house: noon with 30 C under shade 741654;1404388267;jurov;you live in trailer? 741655;1404388373;punkman;nah 741656;1404388704;chetty;you can't make this shit up - http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/no_author/high-schooler-says-he-will-commit-suicide/ 741657;1404388705;assbot;High Schooler Says He Will Commit Suicide – LewRockwell.com 741658;1404389028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.19416553 = 9.7083 BTC [+] {8} 741659;1404392046;bitcoinpete;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/#footnote_0_55383 << please to note Government of "Canada" 741660;1404392048;assbot;F.MPIF, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 741661;1404392048;gribble;The operation succeeded. 741662;1404392226;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/484478125087010816 741663;1404392227;assbot;Trying to create the perfect password this evening? These tips will help! http://t.co/F2aynIDUsV http://t.co/K6GqpYXBAc 741664;1404392250;bitcoinpete;Dear Sam Lee... 741665;1404392313;bitcoinpete;http://tr.eecs.ucf.edu/78/ 741666;1404392314;assbot;Anonymous Byzantine Consensus from Moderately-Hard Puzzles: A Model for Bitcoin - EECS Technical Reports 741667;1404392416;pankkake;;;ud thunderclap 741668;1404392417;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thunderclap | A thunderclap is the sound of a scrotum slapping against the body when going balls-deep. 741669;1404392525;bitcoinpete;lol 741670;1404392933;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/overstock-dangles-rewards-bitcoin-friendly-vendors/ actually, overstock might end up being a bitcoin business 741671;1404392933;assbot;Overstock Dangles Rewards For Bitcoin-Friendly Vendors 741672;1404392964;pankkake;if it's what I understand (being paid bitcoins not fiat) 741673;1404393081;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png 741674;1404393083;kakobrekla;people. 741675;1404393147;bitcoinpete;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVuEz0S16c << germanz keeping busy! 741676;1404393147;assbot;Premium PLUS Parken am Dsseldorf Airport - YouTube 741677;1404393159;bitcoinpete;ok, off to the golf course 741678;1404393908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.20071416 = 1.405 BTC [+] {3} 741679;1404394030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2051 = 0.6153 BTC [+] 741680;1404396705;ThickAsThieves;<+kakobrekla> http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png /// lol 741681;1404396714;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44520 @ 0.00081588 = 36.323 BTC [-] {3} 741682;1404396845;kakobrekla;wait theres more 741683;1404396958;kakobrekla;cont: http://shrani.si/f/1p/9k/1VTNwcQ8/customercont.png 741684;1404397071;pankkake;LOL 741685;1404397194;Namworld;So what's the issue? Delay is like in FAQ like first question? I think I recall reading it once. Pretty sure there was mention for unresolvable bets somewhere in there. 741686;1404397224;kakobrekla;dafuq do i know 741687;1404397237;kakobrekla;he just needs to wait for the mods to do their thing 741688;1404397244;ThickAsThieves;i imagine a clearer answer could be, it will resolve when the results of the open FOIA requests are responded to 741689;1404397248;kakobrekla;is what i have been trying to tell him anyway. 741690;1404397264;kakobrekla;yeah but then theres no fun 741691;1404397293;ThickAsThieves;indeed 741692;1404397340;Namworld;Ah yes, there's the FAQ answer. Doesn't specify a definite time limit, but it does mention it. 741693;1404397387;kakobrekla;look im just the support keeping the customers busy while bets are getting resolved dont look at me! 741694;1404397751;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2630 @ 0.00081403 = 2.1409 BTC [-] 741695;1404398174;pankkake;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/03/136231/goldman-sachs-demands-google-unsend-one-of-its-e-mails 741696;1404398176;assbot;Goldman Sachs Demands Google Unsend One of Its E-mails - Slashdot 741697;1404398388;chetty;you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? 741698;1404398483;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5070 @ 0.00081698 = 4.1421 BTC [+] 741699;1404399449;punkman;chetty, you argue with the dealer, you get thrown out of the casino. You argue with bitbet, you get entertaining emails. 741700;1404399782;kakobrekla;the conclusion, bitbet is delaying payments so they earn the big interest sitting on huge (over 3btc) balance 741701;1404399785;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/2K/bl/3DJJzKcn/customerconclusion.png 741702;1404399815;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla eh tell them to get bent. 741703;1404399819;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete huh ? 741704;1404399819;gribble;The operation succeeded. 741705;1404399867;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: betcha this fellow is american. over here, they'll bring a mostly empty bottle of vodka to the shop, say 'i didn't like it', get money back. 741706;1404399878;kakobrekla;lol 741707;1404399911;mircea_popescu;actually no, let's fix the incentive structure. 741708;1404399951;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla tell them that you've brought the matter to my attention, and i said that if i hear about this again i will not pay on that bet until august 3rd no matter what happens. then ask him if he wants to bring the matter to my attention again. 741709;1404399952;mircea_popescu;;et' 741710;1404399956;mircea_popescu;let's see what happens. 741711;1404399970;mircea_popescu;!up Vallance 741712;1404399989;kakobrekla;mp, nowai cause this can end only end badly. 741713;1404399992;kakobrekla;:P 741714;1404399995;mircea_popescu;lol right. 741715;1404400009;mircea_popescu;hey, im willing to go to february 3rd 2015 after that. 741716;1404400047;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah. this because 50 years ago it was actually worth your while as a shop keeper to make them happy, because they were diligent hard working sorts of people. 741717;1404400051;mircea_popescu;nowadays... 741718;1404400322;pankkake;didn't he think that the info would not be available quickly when he bet? 741719;1404400342;pankkake;that's why I didn't bet, actually, I'm surprised it was approved without a resolution source in the first place 741720;1404400352;mircea_popescu;pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck. 741721;1404400370;mircea_popescu;then the girl just gives him tea. what now, does he throw a fit, rolling on the floor, snot everywhere ? 741722;1404400387;mircea_popescu;cause it wouldn't surprise me. 741723;1404400425;pankkake;I'm more like George, girl invites me over to fuck, but I just drink the tea 741724;1404400427;chetty;no, he tries to rape her, cause thats his right, otherwise he is a victim of tea 741725;1404400433;asciilifeform;!s trilema copilul anal 741726;1404400434;assbot;0 results for 'trilema copilul anal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trilema+copilul+anal 741727;1404400444;mircea_popescu;chetty i k r ? 741728;1404400457;asciilifeform;damnit 741729;1404400460;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sheit, your depth of wisdom astounds me. 741730;1404400472;mircea_popescu;;;google copilul anal 741731;1404400472;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/2011/copilul-anal 741732;1404400474;assbot;Copilul anal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 741733;1404400474;gribble;Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it ...: ; Anus music music - Listen free at Last.fm: ; Trilenciclopedia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: (1 more message) 741734;1404400483;mircea_popescu;weird, i get it first hit. 741735;1404400609;mike_c;!mpif 741736;1404400610;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021734 BTC (Total: 475.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 741737;1404400621;mircea_popescu;mike_c yay! 741738;1404400644;mike_c;who wants to be the btcalpha intern? 741739;1404400649;mircea_popescu;srsly. 741740;1404400658;mircea_popescu;who can one trust for the job tho ? maybe ask them directly. 741741;1404400669;mircea_popescu;kinda how i do it, if there';s people right on the brink of your wot as it were. 741742;1404400683;mircea_popescu;expand the bubble by eating the edges 741743;1404400700;mike_c;worth a shot. 741744;1404400731;mircea_popescu;just like bacterium do it. which, i've been thinking, is actually a very interesting situation. with the mechanics of bitcoin serving as a fundamental thermodynamics implementation, and the wot serving as a singalling space, 741745;1404400742;mircea_popescu;we're basically playing a mega game of life : we've each got our own bacterium 741746;1404400749;mircea_popescu;and so far, trying to make it eat and grow 741747;1404400765;kakobrekla;what is the intern suppose to do 741748;1404400772;kakobrekla;except for internet 741749;1404400780;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bugpowder http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741744 741750;1404400781;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 741751;1404400781;gribble;The operation succeeded. 741752;1404400782;mike_c;get coffee and enter monthly updates. 741753;1404400793;mircea_popescu;check out the time piercing beauty of the log/later tell combo :D 741754;1404400814;mircea_popescu;mike_c usure not seeking 2nd wife ? that sounds like wife... 741755;1404400821;mike_c;work-wife 741756;1404400829;mike_c;;;ud work wife 741757;1404400829;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=work%20wife | That person at work (same or opposite sex) that takes the place of your "at home" spouse while you are at work (no sexual relationship is part of t... 741758;1404400847;mircea_popescu;(no sexual relationship is part of either relationship) 741759;1404400852;mircea_popescu;there ud fify 741760;1404400923;pankkake;;;ud secretary 741761;1404400923;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=secretary | secretary. A position filled by a female that has no other purpose except to perform specific duties for the boss or president of the company. ie: sucking, fucking, ... 741762;1404401005;mircea_popescu;eh. these people never ran an office. 741763;1404401052;mircea_popescu;generally speaking, the senior partner at a law firm will be fucking enraged if you manage to steal his secretary. he couldn't care less if half the junior "partners" leave. 741764;1404401078;mircea_popescu;the reason isn't that she's fucking him, but quite exactly the contrary : unlike all the junior schmucks, she isn't. 741765;1404401228;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00081457 = 3.7617 BTC [-] 741766;1404402136;mircea_popescu;!s mcgrath 741767;1404402137;assbot;10 results for 'mcgrath' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mcgrath 741768;1404402162;mircea_popescu;!s trampstamp 741769;1404402162;assbot;3 results for 'trampstamp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trampstamp 741770;1404402242;mike_c;!s spy house jersey 741771;1404402243;assbot;38 results for 'spy house jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey 741772;1404402247;mike_c;only 38?? 741773;1404402281;kakobrekla;lol again with the spyhouse 741774;1404402311;mike_c;i could've sworn we said it a 100 times yesterday 741775;1404402339;kakobrekla;maybe its not parsed yet 741776;1404402692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.202 = 0.808 BTC [+] 741777;1404402713;mircea_popescu;da fuck is this jersey thing 741778;1404402767;ThickAsThieves;lolz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7658308#msg7658308 741779;1404402767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund 741780;1404402869;mthreat;kakobrekla: the cron was running once per day, I just updated it to run once per hour 741781;1404402870;jurov;TAT good one 741782;1404402933;kakobrekla;thats generous of you mthreat , thanks 741783;1404403000;mthreat;kakobrekla: np, it's very lightweight and fast.. we could make it real-time if we wanted, but probably not necessary 741784;1404403023;benkay;;;later tell hanbot by choosing bets that, as best can be determined, will be open for around a month at the least. // learned that one myself heh 741785;1404403023;gribble;The operation succeeded. 741786;1404403241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69933066 BTC to 11`366 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 741787;1404403260;kakobrekla;i agree, although we started daily and it now is hourly, in a year, perhaps we will look for our next line on search 741788;1404403344;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla YOU HAD PROMISED ME MY LINES IN SEARCH 741789;1404403347;mircea_popescu;how long is this going to take!! 741790;1404403378;kakobrekla;i know email doesnt have a ban, but i think irc does? 741791;1404403387;mircea_popescu;https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F51tx306hb%2FCapture.jpg&t=541&c=bf37IGAdaIoDqA << ahahha nice one ThickAsThieves 741792;1404403406;kakobrekla;lol 741793;1404403418;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: secretary << that wasn't about secretary. that was 'секретутка' - 'secretute' 741794;1404403433;mircea_popescu;lol sekretutka 741795;1404403441;asciilifeform;standard term. ask anyone. 741796;1404403453;mircea_popescu;but you see, that was mostly because of the ban on contraception. 741797;1404403460;mircea_popescu;people needed to get other people's wives in their harem. 741798;1404403539;mircea_popescu;hey lambchop, if you're reading this : i've had enough entertainment i'm willing to pay. pick any bitbet you want, i'll put 1 btc in your name on the side of your choice. lemme know. 741799;1404403555;asciilifeform;stalin died, condoms appeared, marriage as SOP didn't really start to sink till the '90s (ussr) 741800;1404403591;mircea_popescu;wait what ? that last bit ? 741801;1404403611;asciilifeform;people still saw it as 'the thing to do' 741802;1404403625;asciilifeform;culture dies slowly 741803;1404403644;mircea_popescu;o to sink. i read "sink in" 741804;1404403648;mircea_popescu;complete dissonance 741805;1404403652;asciilifeform;lol 741806;1404403670;mircea_popescu;i was like... what sort of tatar tribe from 1700 did this guy grow up with 741807;1404403814;benkay;mircea_popescu: who's lambchop? 741808;1404403823;mircea_popescu;the guy with the graph 741809;1404403831;mircea_popescu;tat linked his post above 741810;1404403887;benkay;hm 741811;1404403914;benkay;in other news, i'm looking at wireframes and user experience jibberjabber for a biggish home automation project 741812;1404403917;mircea_popescu;random factoid of the day : mongols used to call themselves "tata". the chinese called them daddy. that's the origin of the term, in all its permutations, big daddy and what have you. 741813;1404403917;jurov;lol sekretutka .. here sexretardka catched on instead 741814;1404403948;mircea_popescu;jurov does that also connote she's slow & thick ? 741815;1404403963;jurov;no, just pretty but retarded 741816;1404403983;mircea_popescu;well yes. both slow and thick mean dumb :). however, slow is a good fuck and thick a good ass, so... 741817;1404403989;mircea_popescu;trying my hand at this entire lyricism thing. 741818;1404403996;benkay;god save us all 741819;1404404036;jurov;benkay, save yourself 741820;1404404043;benkay;i'm already doomed 741821;1404404058;mp_as_god;no homo, bro. 741822;1404404084;mircea_popescu;actually 741823;1404404118;mp_as_god;how the fuck do you reg and add nicks again ? 741824;1404404129;benkay;eregister 741825;1404404142;kakobrekla;no, he wants /nickserv help 741826;1404404150;benkay;hurr services 741827;1404404152;mp_as_god;im such a noob ;/ 741828;1404404178;jurov;/msg nickserv group mircea_popescu 741829;1404404182;jurov;oops wrong window 741830;1404404186;mircea_popescu;ty 741831;1404404189;BingoBoingo;moiety: ntrly 741832;1404404227;mircea_popescu;holy shit i own ##buttcoin 741833;1404404232;mircea_popescu;and #nude 741834;1404404247;mircea_popescu;ok this is pretty cool. 741835;1404404253;ThickAsThieves;Dow broke 17k 741836;1404404261;ThickAsThieves;champagne for all! 741837;1404404269;mircea_popescu;lol. 741838;1404404323;jurov;where are we in the 1930's script again? 741839;1404404344;ThickAsThieves;we blew past it! no chance of crash anymore1 741840;1404404368;chetty;Berkeley Requires Marijuana Dispensaries To Provide Free Weed For Low-Income Patients 741841;1404404371;BingoBoingo; you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? << of course these people know what a casino is, it's the place they learned how to fly through a door 741842;1404404391;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741565 <<< ahahaha bashed 741843;1404404391;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 741844;1404404400;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00081992 = 26.5654 BTC [+] {3} 741845;1404404410;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say! 741846;1404404434;mircea_popescu;chetty lmao. 741847;1404404449;FabianB;$traded 741848;1404404450;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE 741849;1404404481;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-femfanon/ 741850;1404404494;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say! /// such progress. 741851;1404404527;mircea_popescu;Virginia High Schooler Threatens Suicide, Police Arrive and Kill Him 741852;1404404527;mircea_popescu;Why would you shoot a child that is suicidal? You are there to save him, not finish him off. 741853;1404404528;mircea_popescu;ahahah 741854;1404404616;ThickAsThieves;"Christian was shot an unknown number of times by a Purcellville police officer" 741855;1404404624;ThickAsThieves;too many bullet holes to count i guess 741856;1404404630;ThickAsThieves;or counting no longer taught 741857;1404404665;mircea_popescu;pankkake: if it's what I understand (being paid bitcoins not fiat) << pretty cool actually. 741858;1404404675;jurov;he threatened the officer with suicide? i see 741859;1404404675;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves "more than three" 741860;1404404685;mircea_popescu;jurov no, he disobeyed!!1 741861;1404404705;mircea_popescu;you gotta keep in mind we're discussing this country where they have rooms where if anyone screams "freeze" all the adults just.. freeze 741862;1404404706;asciilifeform;'unknown number of times' << empty magazine in the end 741863;1404404708;mircea_popescu;well... "adults". 741864;1404404722;ThickAsThieves;On Tuesday, a misunderstanding between two armed men in a convenience store in Georgia led to one man drawing his gun and being arrested on the first day of the “guns everywhere” law. 741865;1404404756;ThickAsThieves;guncentralize all the things! 741866;1404404812;asciilifeform;whatever happened to shootouts being held in specially-designated places. 741867;1404404835;mircea_popescu;what is this law ? 741868;1404404914;ThickAsThieves;Georgia’s new gun rules kicked in Tuesday, allowing residents to carry firearms into bars, nightclubs, classrooms and government buildings in a measure slammed by anti-weapon activists as a “dangerous kill bill.” 741869;1404404933;mircea_popescu;http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png << ahahah "but it is fast". epic. 741870;1404404935;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0Y77KK5.txt ) 741871;1404404935;mircea_popescu;!b 1 741872;1404405027;ThickAsThieves;mp what's your view on PAMM accounts? 741873;1404405038;ThickAsThieves;or anyone 741874;1404405041;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i tell you honestly that's like the best customer support i've seen to date. you make me fucking proud. 741875;1404405052;mircea_popescu;i'm buying you a beer next we meet. 741876;1404405058;kakobrekla;lol. 741877;1404405093;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's a great idea in theory whose greatness in practice depends on not being used. 741878;1404405103;ThickAsThieves;i dont like them but i cant articulate exactly why 741879;1404405127;ThickAsThieves;just the sheepness i guess 741880;1404405152;mircea_popescu;it'll prolly work fine for as long as a very small fraction of trades are done this way. 741881;1404405171;mircea_popescu;but as it becomes popular, it also becomes dangerous. 741882;1404405195;mircea_popescu;take just one model of an avenue of attack. suppose i have a known bitbet address, which is up 20% to date. 741883;1404405200;mircea_popescu;suppose bitbet implements pamm betting. 741884;1404405213;mircea_popescu;suppose i notice that any 5 btc i bet is followed by 20 btc in pamm bets. 741885;1404405239;mircea_popescu;suppose i bet 5 btc on "mp has three heads", then turn around and put 100 on the other side. 741886;1404405247;mircea_popescu;do the people pamming me have 2k btc ready ? 741887;1404405262;ThickAsThieves;thx 741888;1404405264;ThickAsThieves;that all helps 741889;1404405311;mircea_popescu;noob traders generally don't understand that the trinity is price, volume, volatility. 741890;1404405316;mircea_popescu;they just look at price 741891;1404405340;ThickAsThieves;indeed, so far, volume is the hardest thing for me to work with 741892;1404405360;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin may be volatile, but it isnt like you can just unload 100btc at any price you target 741893;1404405370;mircea_popescu;now that depends. 741894;1404405384;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is opaque, otc-driven on top of all of it. 741895;1404405614;thestringpuller;wtf is circle? 741896;1404405714;ThickAsThieves;vaporbank 741897;1404405738;ThickAsThieves;circle is now doing a little media trolling to get attention 741898;1404405765;ThickAsThieves;then they will release "free" bitocin purchasing 741899;1404405851;mircea_popescu;aren't they basically the start-up predicated on the notion that square made simple geometric shapes bankable ? 741900;1404405889;benkay;hey who's the blogger doing really great mining analysis? 741901;1404405895;benkay;voice of some greek or something? 741902;1404405896;BingoBoingo;%t 741903;1404405897;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 229 Last Price: 200 24h-Vol: 38k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 213 741904;1404405900;ThickAsThieves;organofcorti 741905;1404405906;benkay;thanks ThickAsThieves 741906;1404405907;mircea_popescu;!s organofcorti 741907;1404405908;assbot;5 results for 'organofcorti' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=organofcorti 741908;1404405908;mircea_popescu;damn 741909;1404405922;pankkake;square? 741910;1404405944;ThickAsThieves;https://squareup.com/ 741911;1404405945;assbot;Accept Credit Cards From An iPhone, Android or iPad - Square 741912;1404405982;ThickAsThieves;Circle is kinda like US Neo I guess 741913;1404405994;benkay;aren't they due to fold sometime this or next quarter? 741914;1404406014;pankkake;it's not even square, it's a rounded square… http://i.imgur.com/xUXEP5g.png SCAM 741915;1404406035;ThickAsThieves;a warmer safer square 741916;1404406063;mircea_popescu;Goldman Sachs filed with the New York Supreme Court, requesting "emergency relief" to avoid a privacy violation and "avoid the risk of unnecessary reputational damage to Goldman Sachs." 741917;1404406068;mircea_popescu;what does "unnecessary" mean in this context ? 741918;1404406078;pankkake;as Gronibard would say, Il est pas carré, il est pas rond, il est ovale mon trou de balle 741919;1404406080;mircea_popescu;seems to me it's god damned necessary, people should stop hiring phantomcircuit 741920;1404406109;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/16Z66QN.txt ) 741921;1404406109;BingoBoingo;!b 4 741922;1404406111;ThickAsThieves;it's also funny that it's "avoid the risk of" 741923;1404406112;mircea_popescu;pankkake shit's gotta be rounded, otherwise children could who knows, give themselves a new cunt on the corners of the thing 741924;1404406120;mircea_popescu;and sue you for unnecessary feminisation. 741925;1404406146;ThickAsThieves;sue all the risk! 741926;1404406165;mircea_popescu;pankkake are these the nude doods ? 741927;1404406170;benkay;so okay i don't know anything about finance and i have a question 741928;1404406188;pankkake;they are rarely fully clothed in concert 741929;1404406218;benkay;so a bond market is in a bubble if there is lots of demand for the bonds, allowing the issuer to issue for less money. 741930;1404406223;benkay;lower interest. 741931;1404406230;benkay;okay i get it thank you for your assistance. 741932;1404406250;mircea_popescu;yw. 741933;1404406271;mircea_popescu;do you understand how bonds are priced, for that matter ? 741934;1404406296;benkay;let's say no - i'm sure i'll learn something useful. 741935;1404406309;benkay;everything i know about bond pricing comes from MPBOR 741936;1404406313;benkay;which... 741937;1404406313;mircea_popescu;ok, so i issue series A, 1 btc bonds paying 1 bitcent/month for 2 years. 741938;1404406318;mircea_popescu;how much is a series A worth atm ? 741939;1404406335;benkay;1 B + tvoB? 741940;1404406341;mircea_popescu;yes. 741941;1404406353;mircea_popescu;now, i issue series B, 1 btc bonds paying 5 bitcents/month for 1 year. 741942;1404406357;mircea_popescu;what is the value of A now ? 741943;1404406380;benkay;less? 741944;1404406390;benkay;because the available interest rate has gone up? 741945;1404406392;mircea_popescu;1 b+ tvoB(A) - tvoB(B) 741946;1404406398;benkay;sweet. 741947;1404406400;mircea_popescu;provided ideal liquidity etc. 741948;1404406406;benkay;right right 741949;1404406419;mircea_popescu;it's a very schematic model, but for the basics : if yields go up low yield older bonds are worth less 741950;1404406433;mircea_popescu;so bonds being worth less really means the market's going to shit for the issuer. such as you know, default looming or w/e 741951;1404406450;mircea_popescu;if yields go down, everyone's old bonds expand on the books 741952;1404406453;benkay;making all the old treasuries on all the US banks' books worth less, making them more depending on further bailouts? 741953;1404406461;mircea_popescu;which is why fake low yields are so important for the us financials atm : 741954;1404406464;benkay;more dependent* 741955;1404406473;mircea_popescu;their balance sheets consist entirely of worthless paper that has to be overvalued. 741956;1404406496;mircea_popescu;tyhis has the disadvantage that it bubbles up the stock exchange and (again) real estate 741957;1404406502;mircea_popescu;but they don't perceive they have options. 741958;1404406549;mike_c;the fed isn't the sole buyer, they aren't entirely fake. there are others with vested interest in keeping us propped up. 741959;1404406564;mircea_popescu;for the purposes of the macro discussion those others are the fed. 741960;1404406574;mircea_popescu;all the byzantine generals serving the same camp ARE in that camp, 741961;1404406587;mike_c;china = fed? how so? 741962;1404406591;mircea_popescu;irrespective of their motivations, whether they're there cause they're trying to fuck a guy's daughter or becaue they're drunk 741963;1404406620;mircea_popescu;i think equating the part of china propping the us currently with china is at best naive. 741964;1404406650;mike_c;hm. interesting. cuz the part of china doing the propping is also delusional? 741965;1404406657;mircea_popescu;china has a long history of making horrid public investments. that there's currently a china fed does not realy commit china 741966;1404406669;mircea_popescu;any more than all the uninhabited towns they built. they got scratch to waste. 741967;1404406703;mircea_popescu;it's not delusional, per se. it's just that china is large. when you're that large, spitting in every vessel isn't particularly noteworthy. 741968;1404406712;mircea_popescu;sure you got drowned in spit, but they didn't mean anything by it. 741969;1404406712;thestringpuller;ghost cities... 741970;1404406767;mike_c;http://usawatchdog.com/fed-laundering-treasury-purchases-in-belgium-to-disguise-whats-happening-paul-craig-roberts/ 741971;1404406771;benkay;;;gettrust freeroute 741972;1404406771;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user freeroute: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=freeroute | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=freeroute | Rated since: Tue Apr 2 18:13:09 2013 741973;1404406794;mircea_popescu;mike_c for instance., 741974;1404406875;mircea_popescu;looking forward to the "cash-basis bond evaluation" becoming a thing with us banks. 741975;1404406892;mircea_popescu;where if you have 100 btc at 1% while the yields atr 0.5% you book a 200 btc passive. 741976;1404406909;benkay;wat 741977;1404406914;mircea_popescu;then if you need 1k btc to cover your profile you just take yields to 0.1%. or w/e, 0.00001% if need be. 741978;1404406954;mircea_popescu;benkay if one's in the business of making money out of nothing, one's stuck doing it. 741979;1404407014;thestringpuller;is it really out of nothing? 741980;1404407031;Apocalyptic;it is 741981;1404407066;thestringpuller;but BTC doesn't come from nothing... 741982;1404407087;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller i was using btc as a unit of account stylistically, to underline the lulz that is fiat. 741983;1404407091;pankkake;you sound like a socialist! faceless globalized finance is money out of money! 741984;1404407099;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/116TAWC.txt ) 741985;1404407099;benkay;!b 1 741986;1404407292;thestringpuller;socialism will save us all tho! 741987;1404407312;thestringpuller;how will the underprivilaged be able to live without socialism? 741988;1404407316;BingoBoingo;OMG Under 200 Life nao!!! https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ 741989;1404407317;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 741990;1404407355;mircea_popescu;wow what a blowout 741991;1404407375;mircea_popescu;incredible. 741992;1404407384;BingoBoingo;Irony is it seems some of the most damaging things to life's cause were... Life Bombs 741993;1404407416;mircea_popescu;funny how that works huh 741994;1404407419;mike_c;that is the biggest domination i have ever seen, and i've watched a lot of these. 741995;1404407420;mircea_popescu;just like irl! 741996;1404407421;benkay;i do not understand this thing that you've done, mike_c . 741997;1404407429;mircea_popescu;mike_c i was thinking, i didn't even know this shit was possible. 741998;1404407503;mike_c;benkay: it is a secret plot to give bingo all the ATC 741999;1404407586;jurov;mike_c i don't like how it shows trending behavior from start to finish on most of the games 742000;1404407600;benkay;ugh open markets are about as stochastically bouncy a thing as i want my money anywhere near 742001;1404407614;mike_c;jurov: your most is a very small sample size 742002;1404407632;jurov;ic 742003;1404407644;mircea_popescu;benkay this has the advantage that it's a provably fair stochastic process. 742004;1404407648;mircea_popescu;markets do not have that. 742005;1404407660;mircea_popescu;you try to ensure it by calling them "open", but alas... 742006;1404407737;benkay;yeah but in the open market i can say things like 'o hey mpoe will probably be worth quite a bit in the future." and play based on that. 742007;1404407754;mircea_popescu;right. specifically because it's not provably fair :) 742008;1404407771;benkay;i like my edges, and i like them sharp. 742009;1404407831;BingoBoingo;benkay: In that case your chance to buy is before the game starts 742010;1404407854;mircea_popescu;much like bitbet, there's ways to have edges here too. mostly on the vol/vol angle i guess 742011;1404407935;benkay;i'm not an oddsmaker, guys. i make like one trade every six months and sit the fuck on top of it. 742012;1404407952;mircea_popescu;we could say you trade like a girl ? 742013;1404407967;benkay;well, that'd be one trade every ten months :D 742014;1404407985;mircea_popescu;lol 742015;1404407989;benkay;and besides i don't 'trade'. 742016;1404408039;benkay;Mr. Market, etc. 742017;1404408294;*;asciilifeform 'Mr. Market' << imagines a webtv-like konsoomer appliance for idiots to 'trade' on 742018;1404408333;*;asciilifeform surprised the various chumpatronic engineers who push 'amazing! web based stock trading' crud haven't come out with one yet 742019;1404408333;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 742020;1404408336;benkay;if i read the parable correctly, Mr. Market is the idiots en aggregate. 742021;1404408375;kakobrekla;just you wait ascii. 742022;1404408414;asciilifeform;it'll ship some time after the u.s. gov.-issued, mandatory hardware btc wallet. 742023;1404408482;asciilifeform;'supports FaceCoin, TaxCoin, and even Bitcoin! (TaxCoin surcharge applies to all transactions, see manual.)' 742024;1404408602;mircea_popescu;actually i'm kind-of surprised nobody has yet made a bitcoind/bitcoin-qt which takes a few out of every tx and sends it to author. 742025;1404408613;mircea_popescu;trivial change to make. 742026;1404408649;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nobody << not exactly. i have a proof-of-concept patch for the winblows client that does this. 742027;1404408659;asciilifeform;(100% though. does that count?) 742028;1404408664;BingoBoingo;The multibit authors are explicitly moving to this model now 742029;1404408669;mike_c;call it the tx fee in the UI, and don't actually pay tx fee (or reduced fee). difference goes to author. 742030;1404408676;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform shouldn't be 100%, should be more like w/e vat is 742031;1404408686;mircea_popescu;mike_c no, call it tax in the ui. 742032;1404408699;mircea_popescu;difference goes to having "duly authorised" badge to show. 742033;1404408704;asciilifeform;100% is the correct winblows tax rate. 742034;1404408735;mircea_popescu;On the steep drop in GDP growth of a paltry .1% in the first quarter, Dr. Roberts says, What I find most amusing about this is they had to claim some real growth in the first quarter; so, they eked out .1%. Now we know they got that by rigging the inflation number they used to deflate the gross domestic product (GDP). The real GDP in the first quarter, properly deflated, was negative and probably also in the fourt 742035;1404408736;mircea_popescu;h quarter. Most likely, this coming quarter, they are not going to be able to hide the fact that it is negative. . . . I am convinced the first quarter was negative, and I dont see how it could possibly go positive in the second quarter. 742036;1404408750;mircea_popescu;where did all the guys that used to argue with me about the fakeness of usg published figures go! 742037;1404408755;mircea_popescu;it's so lonely nao. 742038;1404408772;asciilifeform;at some point people lose interest - how many people cared about soviet stats ? 742039;1404408792;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11646 @ 0.00081916 = 9.5399 BTC [-] 742040;1404408802;mircea_popescu;yeah. 742041;1404408847;mircea_popescu;On the Ukraine crisis, Dr. Roberts says, I think Washington badly miscalculated this whole Ukraine business. It was an act of hubris, arrogance and stupidity. They are mad at Russia for blocking their attack on Syria and blocking their attack on Iran. They said well teach them. Well give them trouble in their own backyard and not to get in our way anymore. The threat of sanctions has made the Russ 742042;1404408847;mircea_popescu;ians realize the dollar system is not in their interest, and they are going to leave it. . . . If any significant part of the world stops using the dollar, the price of the dollar falls because demand for dollars falls, and the import cost for America would rise. When you see how import dependent we are, it would mean a substantial rise in the real cost of living for most Americans. 742043;1404408864;mircea_popescu;this paul craig roberts guy gets it somehow. 742044;1404408880;asciilifeform;'But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their re 742045;1404408880;asciilifeform;ctified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at 145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been 742046;1404408881;asciilifeform;overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.' 742047;1404408891;asciilifeform;('1984' obviously) 742048;1404408913;mircea_popescu;http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/donate/ 742049;1404408914;assbot;Donate - PaulCraigRoberts.org 742050;1404408916;mircea_popescu;look at that shit eh. 742051;1404408948;mircea_popescu;http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/contact/ << people need to get fucking rid of contact forms. 742052;1404408948;assbot;Contact - PaulCraigRoberts.org 742053;1404408960;benkay;why isn't he running ads? 742054;1404408962;mircea_popescu;i have no idea how could one be more offensively impolite than making a contact page and then putting in a form. 742055;1404408975;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: spam control. 742056;1404408992;mircea_popescu;spam control that manages to offend me has failed. 742057;1404409047;mike_c;um, do you find it offensive if the form is just an option? alongside other contact info? 742058;1404409089;mircea_popescu;no. 742059;1404409412;pankkake;forms suck, because there are standard tools to write to people and you can't use them 742060;1404409424;BingoBoingo;^ this 742061;1404409426;pankkake;and you won't have a copy of your sent message in your email client, etc. 742062;1404409440;mircea_popescu;that ^ 742063;1404409507;mike_c;and yet can be a convience in some situations. which is why i like having multiple options. 742064;1404409533;mike_c;convenience 742065;1404409556;mircea_popescu;nobody's offended at plurality you know ? 742066;1404409588;mike_c;some people are anti-choice :) 742067;1404409645;mircea_popescu;lol good one 742068;1404409649;mircea_popescu;!up Dalrymple 742069;1404409695;Dalrymple;Good evening Gentlemen 742070;1404409698;mircea_popescu;heya. 742071;1404409727;Dalrymple;Just stumbled over your blog today and thought I'd say hello here 742072;1404409728;mircea_popescu;so today being a week since S.WOL floated, mike and i each got 2`250`000 shares deposited. 742073;1404409734;asciilifeform;Dalrymple: fan of the actual Dalrymple ? or the man himself 742074;1404409739;mircea_popescu;well hello here. 742075;1404409746;mircea_popescu;ima brb in a few mins. 742076;1404409746;Dalrymple;Just a fan 742077;1404409764;asciilifeform;;;google theodore dalrymple 742078;1404409764;gribble;Theodore Dalrymple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Skeptical Doctor | Dedicated to the work of Theodore Dalrymple: ; Theodore Dalrymple - City Journal: 742079;1404409768;asciilifeform;^ for the uninitiated 742080;1404409784;Dalrymple;The man himself prefers antique books to computers 742081;1404409843;Dalrymple;I've been doing some research and am considering buying a coin since it seems from what I have read the price is due to go up soon 742082;1404409886;Dalrymple;I am totally new to this but it seems like a pretty secure investment 742083;1404409909;benkay;nobody in here's going to argue that btc are a bad buy, even at 5k/each. 742084;1404409918;benkay;unless *wave hands* market conditions. 742085;1404409949;Dalrymple;I can buy at £338 742086;1404409982;asciilifeform;Dalrymple: so long as you don't expect the exchange rate to increase monotonically - sure, buy. 742087;1404410054;benkay;;;ticker --currency gbp 742088;1404410056;gribble;Bitstamp BTCGBP ticker | Best bid: 375.78431, Best ask: 376.5597, Bid-ask spread: 0.77539, Last trade: 376.61217, 24 hour volume: 4477.02275443, 24 hour low: 373.703, 24 hour high: 383.75392, 24 hour vwap: 378.413376961 742089;1404410081;benkay;sounds like a good deal, Dalrymple - what's your outlet? 742090;1404410124;Dalrymple;bitbargian.co.uk 742091;1404410255;benkay;fascinating. 742092;1404410302;mike_c;;;google site:www.thedrinkingrecord.com counterparty risk 742093;1404410302;gribble;A Reminder – The Most Important Word in Bitcoin, Again because Gox: ; Anti-Bitcoin "Bitcoin Apps" Part 3: Gliph in particular (Updated ...: ; Why Fractional Reserve Can't Work in (1 more message) 742094;1404410336;Dalrymple;It's funny actually, I have capital to spare on something like this due to finally receiving unpaid wages from my last job. I was working in a computer repair shop - 742095;1404410382;Dalrymple;The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China to use on indoor maurijuana crops 742096;1404410401;asciilifeform;lcd panels ?! 742097;1404410406;asciilifeform;for lighting? 742098;1404410408;Dalrymple;Lol - sorry LED 742099;1404410427;benkay;http://www.thetwoweeker.com/blog/ 742100;1404410427;assbot;Blog The Two Weeker 742101;1404410450;Dalrymple;She was trying to get me in on it without initially revealing what the panels were for, luckily I left before I got involved 742102;1404410839;benkay;http://redsymbol.net/articles/does-it-take-money-to-make-money/ 742103;1404410839;assbot;Does it take money to make money? 742104;1404410894;benkay;http://www.itex.com/ 742105;1404410896;assbot;ITEX - a small business community and barter network 742106;1404410899;benkay;https://www.bizx.com/ 742107;1404410902;assbot;BizX 742108;1404410903;benkay;SPAMZOR THURSDAY 742109;1404410913;benkay;where's ninjashogun when you really need to make a point... 742110;1404410929;dignork;Dalrymple: £338 is below market value, your chances of getting scammed are high 742111;1404411029;Dalrymple;Thanks, that site was the first one I came across, so obviously I will have a proper look around for verified sites before I buy anything 742112;1404411037;benkay;you might try...cash. 742113;1404411090;dignork;Dalrymple: there are sellers in #bitcoin-otc, if you want I can give you some minimal instructions 742114;1404411100;ThickAsThieves;now GS is recommending post-earnings Calls 742115;1404411110;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00081563 = 5.8905 BTC [-] 742116;1404411126;ThickAsThieves;for NFLX* 742117;1404411162;ThickAsThieves;niggas wont let up 742118;1404411186;Dalrymple;Thanks dignork, that would be appreciated 742119;1404411361;benkay;http://pamelaclark.tumblr.com/post/87113711124/35-practical-tools-for-men-to-further-feminist 742120;1404411362;assbot;Pamela Clark - 35 Practical Tools for Men to Further Feminist Revolution 742121;1404411374;benkay;Do 50% (or more) of housework. // or pay for it to get done? 742122;1404411387;benkay;Do 50% (or more) of emotional support work in your intimate relationships and friendships. // except i don't have emotions 742123;1404411421;benkay;When a woman tells you something is sexist, believe her. 742124;1404411433;benkay;// don't ask for clarification, or other difficult questions. that's sexist. 742125;1404411494;pankkake;!up Dalrymple 742126;1404411584;ThickAsThieves;If she is “nagging,” you are probably lagging. 742127;1404411614;ThickAsThieves;Inject feminism into your daily conversations with other men. 742128;1404411624;ThickAsThieves;gj benkay! 742129;1404411746;Dalrymple;Yet if a man acted like this the feminists would accuse him of "mansplaining", which proves that they are capable of irritating portmanteaus but oblivious to their own hypocrisy 742130;1404411781;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00081563 = 6.4843 BTC [-] 742131;1404411846;chetty;omg would you guys stop with the feminist garbage! just shot them all and get done with it 742132;1404411904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20199991 = 1.01 BTC [-] {2} 742133;1404411909;ThickAsThieves;plenty holes as is! 742134;1404411943;chetty;jajajaja 742135;1404411951;Dalrymple;Gunshot wounds do not a competent sandwich maker make 742136;1404411967;kakobrekla; The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China < you can get addicted to ordering panels from china!? 742137;1404411976;*;kakobrekla will never visit ebay again. 742138;1404411989;mircea_popescu;prole drug dealer ?! 742139;1404412004;Dalrymple;She's using the led panels to grow weed 742140;1404412015;kakobrekla;yes yes but where is the addiction part 742141;1404412022;kakobrekla;without addiction selling drugs is meh 742142;1404412087;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00081563 = 15.6601 BTC [-] 742143;1404412118;ThickAsThieves;will you settle for habit-forming? 742144;1404412129;Dalrymple;Weed has a high profit margin, which probably increases in proportion to the crapness of tv and the sugar content of junk food 742145;1404412163;kakobrekla;lol tat, not much to go on. 742146;1404412199;mircea_popescu;you can actually grow weed by lcd panels ? 742147;1404412209;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19304 @ 0.00081479 = 15.7287 BTC [-] {3} 742148;1404412210;benkay;led panels, mircea_popescu 742149;1404412212;kakobrekla;well yes you can 742150;1404412215;ThickAsThieves;10 Examples of Decentralized Art 742151;1404412225;kakobrekla;but its gonna be shit. 742152;1404412235;mircea_popescu;o nm my bad 742153;1404412243;kakobrekla;(i do NOT mean the hashish) 742154;1404412258;mircea_popescu;led to avoiud the high energy consumption police screen for sort of thing ? 742155;1404412269;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03699 = 0.7398 BTC [-] 742156;1404412273;Dalrymple;Yep 742157;1404412274;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: heat. 742158;1404412300;mircea_popescu;that too 742159;1404412308;mircea_popescu;i thought they liked high heat/high humidity no ? 742160;1404412311;mircea_popescu;just spray water. 742161;1404412329;asciilifeform;u.s. police were officially forbidden from using thermovisors, but afaik still do (why the hell not) 742162;1404412357;Dalrymple;I think she might have been selling some of the panels too 742163;1404412358;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure utilities are required to report the top 5% iirc it was consumers in dormitory neighbourhoods. 742164;1404412388;mircea_popescu;so why bother with thermovisors 742165;1404412394;asciilifeform;;;google bitcoin miner marijuana 742166;1404412395;gribble;Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed: ; Bitcoin miners busted? Police confuse bitcoin power usage for pot ...: ; Why Would Police Confuse (1 more message) 742167;1404412395;mircea_popescu;might as well forbid them "for privacy" 742168;1404412397;kakobrekla;easy workaround is to steal power. it goes unnoticed in urban areas. 742169;1404412418;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla stolen and dependable. pick three. 742170;1404412423;Dalrymple;In the UK a lot of people are caught due to stealing power 742171;1404412467;kakobrekla;i know for a fact that they lose megawatts in the air here 742172;1404412474;kakobrekla;and they dont give fuck for losing a few kw 742173;1404412496;Dalrymple;It's not something I'd ever want to do, and the people who do it often get violently extorted if they aren't caught by the police 742174;1404412546;Dalrymple;I met one person who would look for gullibles and offer to loan them some equipment and oversee their grow, it meant he'd get a cut and it wouldn't take place on his property, also he knew the connects to sell it in bulk 742175;1404412555;chetty;we all have different ideas on which laws are worth breaking 742176;1404412574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.03306369 = 6.2821 BTC [-] {14} 742177;1404412575;kakobrekla;different things work in different places 742178;1404412600;ThickAsThieves;Dalrymple obv a dealer 742179;1404412604;Dalrymple;Lol 742180;1404412607;mircea_popescu;oh nice can i play ? 742181;1404412609;mircea_popescu;different phone numbers have different amounts in them 742182;1404412610;kakobrekla;go 500km south of here, you can bribe any cop for anything 742183;1404412622;mircea_popescu;;;google where is 500km south of somalia 742184;1404412623;gribble;Clashes at a Somali border town leaves 10 dead - News ...: ; 10 killed in Somali border clashes - News - africareview.com: ; December | 2013 | (1 more message) 742185;1404412625;kakobrekla;here, noone dares. 742186;1404412636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03513656 = 0.527 BTC [+] {3} 742187;1404412646;ThickAsThieves;500m south is ocean, no? 742188;1404412668;mircea_popescu;oh, ocean cops ? i hear bad things about their sirens. 742189;1404412678;kakobrekla;meh fuck you trolls. 742190;1404412713;ThickAsThieves;ah, i see, it's madagascar 742191;1404412714;ThickAsThieves;til 742192;1404412715;mircea_popescu;where is that sketch 742193;1404412733;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c 742194;1404412733;assbot;Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube 742195;1404412776;ThickAsThieves;did they ever find that Malaysian plane? 742196;1404412861;mircea_popescu;yeah. it was hidden in neobee's real world brick and mortar airplane warehouse 742197;1404412974;ThickAsThieves;zeroblock made a random neo tweet today 742198;1404412992;ThickAsThieves;https://twitter.com/zeroblock/status/484725454343913472 742199;1404412993;assbot;Danny Brewster (NEO&BEE) rumored to be in Larnaca, Greece by post office worker https://t.co/bos2fyOzAM 742200;1404413013;ThickAsThieves;points to forum, some dude saying he got Danny's Gox Bankruptcy mail 742201;1404413040;mircea_popescu;interesting. 742202;1404413113;punkman;Larnaca is in Cyprus 742203;1404413115;ThickAsThieves;yep 742204;1404413125;ThickAsThieves;it's where the airport is 742205;1404413146;asciilifeform;from the loltron: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world 742206;1404413146;assbot;Expropriation Is Back - Is Christine Lagarde The Most Dangerous Woman In The World? | Zero Hedge 742207;1404413245;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00081655 = 8.2472 BTC [+] {2} 742208;1404413273;mircea_popescu;i wasn't aware it had ever left. 742209;1404413336;benkay;!up Dalrymple 742210;1404413502;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/vizualizarea-datelor-market-depth-pentru-bitcoini/ 742211;1404413503;assbot;Vizualizarea datelor : Market depth pentru bitcoini pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 742212;1404413510;mircea_popescu;this 2011 article has like... 2011 prices in it :D 742213;1404413556;mircea_popescu;still the best mkt depth visualisation there is imo 742214;1404413851;benkay;i think i'm going to get a "don't tread on me" tattoo 742215;1404413872;benkay;probably just the snake. 742216;1404413898;benkay;also this: http://www.revolutionary-war.net/image-files/deic-logo.png 742217;1404414099;mircea_popescu;wassat ? 742218;1404414115;mircea_popescu;o nm. 742219;1404414118;mircea_popescu;get it in gold ink! 742220;1404414138;benkay;my skin's not dark enough for that to look at all good 742221;1404414153;benkay;i am a swarthy boy, but not actually black. 742222;1404414164;benkay;actually i'm not even swarthy. 742223;1404414181;benkay;just well-tanned. 742224;1404414193;benkay;"In short, Italian men are swarthy. And when someone says that, it's usually not with a shudder, but a shiver. 742225;1404414194;benkay;" 742226;1404414199;benkay;oh, babes. 742227;1404414207;mircea_popescu;so get a black guy and get the tattoo on him. 742228;1404414209;benkay;http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=462574 742229;1404414210;assbot;Swarthy: offensive or not? - WordReference Forums 742230;1404414216;benkay;hey thestringpuller lets get you inked 742231;1404414317;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller is black ?! 742232;1404414348;mircea_popescu;"We American women think of the swarthy type as a dark-skinned (not black), exotic, intense type of man." 742233;1404414350;benkay;probably doing pomodoros, ping him louder 742234;1404414357;mircea_popescu;dude lmao. "we american women" ? who's this lol 742235;1404414373;benkay;hello_this_is_dog.png 742236;1404414428;mircea_popescu;more like this-is-retarded-bitch-hour 742237;1404414471;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7661602#msg7661602 742238;1404414471;assbot;Evaluating Havelock securities performances 742239;1404414473;kakobrekla;gold. 742240;1404414523;kakobrekla;>(gold, real estate, bread, hookers, all would be better measures of value over time than Bitcoin) 742241;1404414532;kakobrekla;because hookers cant be printed. 742242;1404414549;kakobrekla;(not yet, at least) 742243;1404414575;asciilifeform;hookerchain prevents this. 742244;1404414580;kakobrekla;lol 742245;1404414709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00081421 = 11.2768 BTC [-] {2} 742246;1404414878;mircea_popescu;so "the community" of bagholders posing as bitcoin people is getting vocal ? 742247;1404414878;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-july-2014-combined-statement/ 742248;1404414940;benkay;sales fee creeping up on account fee. 742249;1404414994;mike_c;uh 742250;1404415002;mike_c;"may and july" -> "may and june"? 742251;1404415024;mircea_popescu;drat 742252;1404415116;mircea_popescu;your creative accounting 742253;1404415116;mircea_popescu;You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world? 742254;1404415133;mircea_popescu;lmao that fuckwit seriously has the gall to argue4 that stealing people's bitcoins over time is okay ? 742255;1404415136;mircea_popescu;;;rated ognasty 742256;1404415136;gribble;You rated user ognasty on Fri Jun 13 17:07:59 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: pirate shill ; currently running a security that made a 60% loss over two years. a fine example of the scum that unwarrantedly imagines itself somehow part of Bitcoin.. 742257;1404415142;mircea_popescu;mkay. 742258;1404415204;asciilifeform;!up Dalrymple 742259;1404415234;mircea_popescu;Blazedout419 in case you're still looking for that, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/ 742260;1404415236;assbot;MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 742261;1404415247;mircea_popescu;it's about a year out of date by now, if you're looking for something to do 742262;1404415295;mircea_popescu;more generally i suppose it being springish again, it's time to revisit last year for the new crop of noobs : 742263;1404415295;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/ 742264;1404415296;assbot;The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 742265;1404415315;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-june-2014-combined-statement/ 742266;1404415351;mircea_popescu;and perhaps also http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/ 742267;1404415352;assbot;The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 742268;1404415548;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7662458#msg7662458 742269;1404415548;assbot;Evaluating Havelock securities performances 742270;1404415599;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla whay so angry 742271;1404415609;kakobrekla;you dont know angry. 742272;1404415638;mircea_popescu;hm. 742273;1404415640;mike_c;bitstamp is awesome 742274;1404415661;mike_c;(is he angry yet?) 742275;1404415663;kakobrekla;yes troll sensor also working 742276;1404415663;mircea_popescu;Also, newsflash, I can call this rock that I am about to throw a 'club', yet it wont feel like one when it hits your face. 742277;1404415667;mircea_popescu;this was kinda lulzy 742278;1404415682;davout_;bitstamp slovenians are best slovenians 742279;1404415685;mircea_popescu;mostly cause of the club ambiguity 742280;1404415727;mircea_popescu;davout i hear nigeria beat you froggers in the wc 742281;1404415754;davout;apparently you're not paying your intel dept enough 742282;1404415852;mircea_popescu;drat. 742283;1404415959;davout;;;ud drat 742284;1404415960;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drat | Apple touch icon Download the Free App! 1. drat. What cute people say when they are pissed off. "Oh Drat i lost my wallet". by spanky spangler September 07,  ... 742285;1404415987;mircea_popescu;davout bet you the krautzes send france home ? 742286;1404415988;davout;the internet sez you're a cutie! 742287;1404416077;davout;1 btc 742288;1404416081;davout;but not on bitbet 742289;1404416084;davout;their support sucks 742290;1404416093;mircea_popescu;yeah on bitbet lol. putting it in nao. 742291;1404416115;davout;i'm not paying 1% for a private bet between you and me 742292;1404416139;mircea_popescu;but it's open. 742293;1404416178;davout;i hear they send winners spider drawings instead of money 742294;1404416187;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 742295;1404416191;mircea_popescu;should try thias 742296;1404416508;mircea_popescu;davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ 742297;1404416508;assbot;BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No | closing in 1 day 4 hours | weight: 99`949 (100`000 to 1) 742298;1404416621;davout;mircea_popescu: "pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck." <<< if you reason like this, then you should rename it to bitchbet 742299;1404416638;Mats_cd03;benkay: everyone i know with the coiled rattlesnake and/or 'don't tread on me' is ex mil 742300;1404416661;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00081366 = 3.0512 BTC [-] {2} 742301;1404416694;mircea_popescu;davout how you mean ? 742302;1404416749;davout;if you argue that the resolution of bitbets can afford lack of clarity by comparing it to the way the woman of your example lacks clarity you should go all the way 742303;1404416781;davout;but then there's also the question of "where does the lack of clarity stop, and the guy's expectations start" 742304;1404417026;mike_c;what clarity is missing? when the bet will resolve? obviously it will resolve when the price is known. if it becomes clear the price will never be known, BB mods will do something appropriate. 742305;1404417027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00081748 = 15.0008 BTC [+] 742306;1404417055;pankkake;I think davout refers to another bet 742307;1404417057;mike_c;doesn't help to add a 10 page rider to every bet 742308;1404417075;mircea_popescu;mike has it. 742309;1404417084;pankkake;i.e. what if buttcoin-central is renamed to gaymium 742310;1404417112;pankkake;another bitcoin-qt segfault. gotta learn to not click on it too soon 742311;1404417176;davout;i think my broader point is that since you don't know what you don't know, it makes sense to define a way to clarify propositions along the way, lest you end up with some rota v2 742312;1404417204;davout;you cannot perfectly specify a bet, no matter how many pages of specs you write 742313;1404417218;mircea_popescu;davout sure. but how does that help the arguer's position ? 742314;1404417244;mircea_popescu;you can't argue from your expectation, gotta argue from reality. 742315;1404417320;davout;the guy that was requesting support ? 742316;1404417340;mircea_popescu;well no, the guy that was requesting the bet be cancelled. 742317;1404417345;davout;ah 742318;1404417394;mircea_popescu;he briefly masqueraded as requesting support originally i guess. 742319;1404417403;davout;i think that a reasonable case can be made for cancellation 742320;1404417428;davout;based on the fact that you have no reliable source for the auction price 742321;1404417438;mircea_popescu;no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists. 742322;1404417464;davout;what do you mean ? 742323;1404417464;mircea_popescu;that'd have been a good case for not betting. 742324;1404417486;davout;sure, that's why i didn't bet :-) 742325;1404417490;mircea_popescu;exactly what i say ?! what part ? 742326;1404417499;davout;"no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists." 742327;1404417511;davout;what's a legitimate dispute ? 742328;1404417517;mircea_popescu;right. 742329;1404417522;mircea_popescu;that as long as there's a dispute, a bet doesn't get cancelled. 742330;1404417544;mircea_popescu;like, people not agreeing. 742331;1404417548;davout;a dispute about the auction price being >x or 0 being irrelevant given the bet conditions 742346;1404417828;davout;as in, a price has been paid 742347;1404417829;davout;:-) 742348;1404417837;mircea_popescu;not his place to realise such a thing. 742349;1404417843;mircea_popescu;there's no way out of history. what's done is done. 742350;1404417903;pankkake;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/03/1846215/nsa-considers-linux-journal-readers-tor-and-linux-users-extremists 742351;1404417904;assbot;NSA Considers Linux Journal Readers, Tor (And Linux?) Users "Extremists" - Slashdot 742352;1404417916;Naphex;pankkake: no wonder 742353;1404417924;davout;mircea_popescu: not sure what you mean 742354;1404417928;Naphex;most people in those categories are concerned about privacy 742355;1404417930;mircea_popescu;that's ok, i consider nsa employees child molesters. they're going to jail. 742356;1404417943;Naphex;from their PoV anyone who gives a shit about privacy will be an extremist 742357;1404417948;mircea_popescu;davout you know what makes a good error message ? 742358;1404417955;mircea_popescu;cause this "general failure" thing doesn't halp. 742359;1404417969;Naphex;General Failure 321 742360;1404418003;mircea_popescu;a ty 742361;1404418052;davout;fair enough :-) i'm thinking that "not his place to realise such a thing." is side-stepping the issue, and also not 742362;1404418057;davout;backed 742363;1404418083;davout;i mean why? say i'm making this bet about this music note being this or that, and poof, i become deaf 742364;1404418087;mircea_popescu;but you understand the general principle of limited review ? such that a judge isn't at liberty to vacate the law for instance. 742365;1404418142;mircea_popescu;the guy you hire to do your plumbing isn't allowed to recommend you buy a different house 742366;1404418158;mircea_popescu;army captain ordered to hold a position isn't allowed to change the regimental deployment 742367;1404418174;Mats_cd03;so youŕe saying bitbet needs a jury 742368;1404418179;mircea_popescu;random fuckwit that can't afford a 400 dollar swimsuit isn't free to "change the way society regards women" 742369;1404418180;mircea_popescu;and so on 742370;1404418180;davout;yes, the guy who does the plumbing can perfectly throw his hands in the air, refund you, and tell you that in fact he doesn't do lead pipes 742371;1404418196;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 kinda what the mods are. 742372;1404418206;Mats_cd03;a jury that can nullify judgments then 742373;1404418224;mircea_popescu;davout so a mod can quit bitbet. 742374;1404418226;mircea_popescu;what's that change. 742375;1404418269;davout;no, that would translate to quit being a plumber, not refuse to serve a particular client because you don't have the correct tools or qualifications 742376;1404418302;mircea_popescu;the plumber quitting his plumbing has zero impact. the plumbing company wil still do the plumbing. 742377;1404418309;pankkake;%diff 742378;1404418314;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 785138.67 in 2013 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 0.00 742379;1404418321;chetty;ah but that would be like refusing to bake a gay wedding cake, not allowed 742380;1404418343;mircea_popescu;exactly. 742381;1404418359;mircea_popescu;or like a computer refusing to multiply anything by 548791114 742382;1404418361;davout;chetty mircea_popescu no because if you do only plastic pipes you can't be forced to install lead pipes 742383;1404418365;mircea_popescu;also not allowed. 742384;1404418369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00081256 = 2.5596 BTC [-] 742385;1404418530;davout;i think that in essence, bitbet and the rota have a lot in common 742386;1404418592;mircea_popescu;this is not news :) 742387;1404418605;mircea_popescu;i think i even said as much in the logs, months ago 742388;1404418677;davout;mircea_popescu: yeah well, i haven't ordered the ba logs paperback yet :-) 742389;1404418683;mircea_popescu;:p 742390;1404418710;davout;but i spent some time thinking about this while driving 742391;1404418728;davout;so, how does it manage to avoid the shortcomings of the rota? 742392;1404418734;cgcardona;o/ hello #bitcoin-assets 742393;1404418759;davout;because basically, there's the "evaluate outcome according to environment and bet specs" part of bitbet 742394;1404418788;mircea_popescu;davout anon mods deliberating in secret. exact opposite of the "citizenship judge" rota model 742395;1404418810;davout;but there's also the "make a sovereign decision about the resolution conditions uncertainty that came to light after acceptation but before resoltuion" 742396;1404418845;davout;how's secrecy adding anything here ? 742397;1404418886;mircea_popescu;i have no idea. 742398;1404418902;mike_c;rota did not need to decide things for the good of rota. bitbet has a vested interest in making good decisions. 742399;1404418904;Apocalyptic;kinda reminds me of the venetian rulers 742400;1404418948;davout;mike_c: true 742401;1404418968;mircea_popescu;this is a good point yeah 742402;1404418993;davout;mircea_popescu: so the advantage of secrecy is undecided 742403;1404419004;mircea_popescu;im just saying it's opposite. 742404;1404419026;davout;no, you also said you had no idea about how it was an improvement :-) 742405;1404419080;mircea_popescu;well yes. 742406;1404419096;mircea_popescu;how is it an improvement is some sort of forward or inside looking statement. i dunno. 742407;1404419139;mircea_popescu;suppose there's an apple tree and a potato. now, you ask me how is a pomme better than a pomme du terre. nfi man, i just know they're opposite. 742408;1404419211;davout;ok, so basically makes no sense to sort them 742409;1404419250;mircea_popescu;what's sort mean and who's them. 742410;1404419295;mircea_popescu;and hello cgcardona 742411;1404419321;davout;i mean it makes no sense to try and decide whether secrecy is a better model than non-secrecy 742412;1404419334;mircea_popescu;mike_c i suspect that's perhaps stretching a point. rota judges did make a salary, and had a deeply vested interest in making th emodel work. 742413;1404419354;mircea_popescu;they failed to understand it in practice, but this is because people are often lazy, and that's exactly how things like bitcoin can get killed in 2010. 742414;1404419369;mircea_popescu;davout not without a metric. 742415;1404419408;*;cgcardona tips hat to MP 742416;1404419409;davout;yo, pas de relation d'ordre 742417;1404419411;cgcardona;top of tha mornin sir 742418;1404419439;mircea_popescu;something like that 742419;1404419928;mircea_popescu;davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#b4 that you ? 742420;1404419929;assbot;BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1.06 B (88%) on Yes, 0.14 B (12%) on No | closing in 1 day 3 hours | weight: 96`594 (100`000 to 1) 742421;1404419958;thestringpuller;shots fired 742422;1404420102;FabianB;[]bot: you alive? 742423;1404420106;mircea_popescu;seems not 742424;1404420132;FabianB;artifexd: ? 742425;1404420146;davout;mircea_popescu: no 742426;1404420169;mircea_popescu;well ok, lem me know when you're in and ill cover to even odds 742427;1404420365;davout;mircea_popescu: ok done 742428;1404420410;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/could-strenuous-exercise-night-mean-better-sleep-211528590--spt.html 742429;1404420412;assbot;Could strenuous exercise at night mean better sleep? - Yahoo News 742430;1404420459;mircea_popescu;eh what the heck, im so overconfident i just put another 1 btc. so there. 742431;1404420464;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: Is the Bastille bet considered controversial? Or mods just got bored of resolving bets y/day? 742432;1404420480;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan i don't imagine it's controversial. 742433;1404420486;mircea_popescu;lemme see 742434;1404420492;kyuupichan;OK, boredom it is 742435;1404420499;chetty;Many people would rather inflict pain on themselves than spend 15 minutes in a room with nothing to do but think 742436;1404420506;mike_c;kyuupichan: what was this mystery mpex conversation you had with daniel? 742437;1404420538;mircea_popescu;Resolution: in 1 week 4 days (15-07-2014) 742438;1404420546;mircea_popescu;nothing controversial about it, but its date hasn't come yet. 742439;1404420570;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: But it's already happened no? Other bets are resolved early if they happen. 742440;1404420589;mircea_popescu;it's "on" not "by" 742441;1404420603;kyuupichan;The explanatory text is clearly "by". "On or before". 742442;1404420604;mircea_popescu;o nm it's on or before. 742443;1404420608;benkay;http://dogebark.nijotz.com/ 742444;1404420612;benkay;^^ dns barker 742445;1404420613;BingoBoingo;Omg someone is trying to unkill of of my death with bombs!!! 742446;1404420617;kyuupichan;The disconnect between the two is unfortunate 742447;1404420618;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan yeah prolly going out today. 742448;1404420631;kyuupichan;Thx 742449;1404420687;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 72 @ 0.0172 = 1.2384 BTC [+] 742450;1404420729;davout;mircea_popescu: BUT WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER MATCH 58 FR vs DE IN THE WC OF SOME UNRELATED SPORT ?? 742451;1404420753;mike_c;BingoBoingo: looks like somebody got into life real low. 742452;1404420827;BingoBoingo;mike_c: The irony is once again the bombs seem to be setting themselves up for failure 742453;1404420838;benkay;asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: where's the post detailing cardano rng construction? 742454;1404420853;kyuupichan;mike_c: Not sure I remember most of it. I'd rather it remained private though. 742455;1404420895;mike_c;kako can turn off the logger 742456;1404420905;mircea_popescu;davout tough 742457;1404420924;mircea_popescu;benkay in s.nsa somewhere 742458;1404420942;davout;yeah well, france would win both anyway 742459;1404421081;mircea_popescu;the only thing france wins is buttruining on pikes marathon 742460;1404421132;davout;i'm starting to suspect that this france vs germany bet is going to get bigger than the berkshire one 742461;1404421140;BingoBoingo;benkay: http://trilema.com/2013/the-reason-you-cant-have-nice-numbers-and-other-considerations/ ??? 742462;1404421141;assbot;The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 742463;1404421141;davout;:D 742464;1404421145;mircea_popescu;well... not this one 742465;1404421150;mircea_popescu;but maybe if a real country was involved. 742466;1404421175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999985 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2} 742467;1404421222;mircea_popescu;hanbot was like "o why are you so mean ?! wait, this is davout ? nm, be as mean as you wish!" 742468;1404421232;davout;LOL 742469;1404421255;BingoBoingo;Shame a real country like Algeria couldn't eliminate France 742470;1404421269;mircea_popescu;nah that'd have sucked 742471;1404421274;davout;such shame, very sad 742472;1404421278;mircea_popescu;i don;t know many algerians with btc to bitch at 742473;1404421291;davout;at least we got some sleep in paris, algeria winning = honking cars all night 742474;1404421369;davout;as a sidenote, the whole "service is shitty, but it's fast!" has been a thing in france for the last 20 years 742475;1404421377;mircea_popescu;lol 742476;1404421386;davout;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7NB_RwtPx4&feature=kp 742477;1404421387;assbot;Chevalier et Laspales le train pour pau - YouTube 742478;1404421389;BingoBoingo;!up Sebastan 742479;1404421395;BingoBoingo;!up chax 742480;1404421406;BingoBoingo;!up navhul-lacsup 742481;1404421411;davout;CECI DIT, IL EST TRES RAPIDE! 742482;1404421438;mircea_popescu;"my cock is small. but it squitrs quickly" 742483;1404421606;jborkl;sweet 742484;1404421610;BingoBoingo;%tslb 742485;1404421611;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 742486;1404421663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00081748 = 12.6709 BTC [+] 742487;1404421716;BingoBoingo;%d 742488;1404421716;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 785138.67 in 2001 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 0.00 742489;1404421724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13588 @ 0.00081757 = 11.1091 BTC [+] {2} 742490;1404421729;mircea_popescu;wow shit look at that, someone covered the krautz bet. 742491;1404421749;mircea_popescu;artifexd somehow []bot is missing out on all the bitbet excitement lol 742492;1404421751;BingoBoingo;%t 742493;1404421754;benkay;nah, not quite BingoBoingo 742494;1404421754;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 250 Last Price: 229 24h-Vol: 85k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 218 742495;1404421817;BingoBoingo;%ob 742496;1404421818;artifexd;Thanks 742497;1404421821;atcbot;19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 33k@200 898k@199 500k@151 742498;1404421858;artifexd;She should start acting right again. 742499;1404421860;jborkl;90000 blocks through the rebuilt blockchain and I am at 25MB 742500;1404421880;mircea_popescu;o wait [] is a gal ? 742501;1404421905;artifexd;As her creator, I refer to her as such. And thus, yes. 742502;1404421909;mircea_popescu;cool. 742503;1404421928;mircea_popescu;( . ) ( . ) bot shoul dbe in change of boobies. 742504;1404421934;benkay;$boobs 742505;1404421952;davout;mircea_popescu: according to bitbet rules and closing dates i can cancel my bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ until the last minute of the match right? 742506;1404421952;assbot;BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 2.06 B (49%) on Yes, 2.14 B (51%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`609 (100`000 to 1) 742507;1404421953;benkay;in other news, i've learned that having the hairline trimmed into symmetry is a horrible idea. 742508;1404421967;mircea_popescu;davout waitwut 742509;1404421970;mircea_popescu;!up defaboy 742510;1404421980;davout;bet closes on saturday 742511;1404421983;davout;match is on friday 742512;1404421991;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/07/rolling_coal_conservatives_who_show_their_annoyance_with_liberals_obama.html 742513;1404421991;assbot;Rolling Coal: Conservatives who show their annoyance with liberals, Obama, and the EPA by blowing black smoke from their trucks. 742514;1404421996;davout;so technically, before the match is ended i can bet at anytime 742515;1404422005;mircea_popescu;davout nah, its gonna refund all bets made after 1st half 742516;1404422023;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#c3299 742517;1404422023;assbot;BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.06 B (77%) on Yes, 2.14 B (23%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`539 (100`000 to 1) 742518;1404422031;davout;lol k 742519;1404422038;mircea_popescu;artifexd seems it missed anothr one ? 742520;1404422078;artifexd;Last bet was 14 minutes ago 742521;1404422079;davout;so that is 1 confirmation before 45 minutes + additionnal time 742522;1404422105;artifexd;Last bet created was 30 minutes ago 742523;1404422108;artifexd;So, not yet. 742524;1404422116;davout;argh, i liked the "say 'deal', spit on the ground" approach :D 742525;1404422123;mircea_popescu;artifexd a 5btc bet just went through no ? 742526;1404422142;artifexd;Not that I see. 742527;1404422146;artifexd;Where? 742528;1404422148;mircea_popescu;davout aditional time is like, up i nthe air :D 742529;1404422161;mircea_popescu;artifexd well i just noticed the france bet went from 2ish to 7ish on one side 742530;1404422165;davout;mircea_popescu: "Irrespective of what the close date says, bets made after half time will be refunded." <<< not to nitpick, but now mods can redefine bets? :D 742531;1404422194;mircea_popescu;always could. 742532;1404422247;artifexd;Hmmm... another crash. 742533;1404422256;benkay; benkay: somebody should write something that saturates idle connections with encrypted dummy data // any bored programmers want to irritate the NSA? trinque's full of good ideas today 742534;1404422260;davout;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742364 <<< but this? 742535;1404422261;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 742536;1404422261;benkay;;;ticker 742537;1404422262;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 641.64, Best ask: 643.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.34000, Last trade: 641.62, 24 hour volume: 4768.02134696, 24 hour low: 638.79, 24 hour high: 652.79, 24 hour vwap: 646.281389953 742538;1404422277;artifexd;Investigating.... 742539;1404422302;mircea_popescu;davout there's an ambiguity between "mods" here. BitBet Mod in red on the site is merely the official position of bitbet. 742540;1404422342;mircea_popescu;benkay you and your extremist friends. 742541;1404422426;asciilifeform;benkay: there is nothing especially secret about the rng. 742542;1404422452;trinque;the hard part would be getting enough people to use it for it to matter 742543;1404422466;asciilifeform;benkay: it is a very simple design based on johnson noise. -- plus, the entire design will be published in excruciating detail. 742544;1404422518;mircea_popescu;trinque maybe something like an always on crypoted messaging app 742545;1404422525;mircea_popescu;that constantly sends the same debit to everyone. 742546;1404422529;asciilifeform;(if someone wants to buy a chinese 'turdano' - its own punishment.) 742547;1404422558;trinque;mircea_popescu: that's interesting 742548;1404422561;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29rh1f/allaire_wolf_in_sheeps_clothing/ 742549;1404422561;assbot;Allaire - Wolf in Sheep's Clothing : Bitcoin 742550;1404422567;mircea_popescu;guarantees 1kbps of text. 742551;1404422582;mircea_popescu;whether you send text or it just pads with noise... no difference. it sends 1kbps 742552;1404422614;trinque;mircea_popescu: that's basically what I was thinking in terms of a p2p filesharing app recently 742553;1404422623;asciilifeform;saturation is the only real pill against traffic analysis. 742554;1404422629;mircea_popescu;yeah, could be a messaging app with filesharing. 742555;1404422633;mircea_popescu;slow as fuck i guess 742556;1404422672;mircea_popescu;then again you can prolly optimise the distribution a little, and preserve the "no meta" value of the original broadcast design 742557;1404422681;mircea_popescu;without being stuck sending bw to EVERYONE all the time 742558;1404423005;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 742559;1404423008;gribble;Time since last block: 16 minutes and 42 seconds 742560;1404423008;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-quickly-a-genius-startup-can-tank-1599840136/+laceydonohue 742561;1404423009;assbot;How Quickly a "Genius" Startup Can Tank 742562;1404423070;mircea_popescu;"Bitcoin is not the unit of account, as you are not held accountable for that unit by anyone." 742563;1404423075;mircea_popescu;herp. 742564;1404423094;mircea_popescu;says scammer getting ripped a new one in a thread dedicated to how he's lost people's btc 742565;1404423176;mircea_popescu;Bloodhound had everything going for it. TechCrunch once hailed the tradeshow app as "genius" and Peter Thiel lead a $3 million investment round in the "blowing up" company. 742566;1404423186;mircea_popescu;how is this possible! 742567;1404423213;BingoBoingo;From the comments >> 742568;1404423218;BingoBoingo;Share to Facebook 742569;1404423218;BingoBoingo;Share to Twitter 742570;1404423219;BingoBoingo;Go to permalink 742571;1404423219;BingoBoingo;"they ultimately signed a five-year lease for $31,667 a month in rent (plus $564 in fees)more than six times the amount the arts collective had been previously paying." When you get taken that badly by a LANDLORD in a negotiation, maybe business isn't the right line of work for you. Disgraceful. 742572;1404423249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01415 = 0.7075 BTC [+] 742573;1404423268;mircea_popescu;the author sounds like a butthurt artsy chick upset that money exists. 742574;1404423288;mircea_popescu;and her name is Kevin Montgomery, which is apt. 742575;1404423360;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.355 BTC for No on "Krautzes send France home" http://bitbet.us/bet/987/ Odds: 56(Y):44(N) by coin, 56(Y):44(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.60838675 BTC. Current weight: 93,229. 742576;1404423382;punkman;punkman: http://bitbet.us/bet/983/bitcoin-volatility-august-over-200/ <- links to http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^GSPC 742577;1404423382;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin volatility August over $200 :: 0.19 B (78%) on Yes, 0.06 B (22%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 98`203 (100`000 to 1) 742578;1404423383;assbot;^GSPC: Summary for S&P 500- Yahoo! Finance 742579;1404423388;BingoBoingo;lol 742580;1404423420;punkman;oh there's a comment, never mind 742581;1404423422;BingoBoingo;Butthurt Artsy chick vs. Failing startup burn rate 742582;1404423435;mircea_popescu;punkman yeah 742583;1404423472;punkman;my gold bet made it, yay 742584;1404423474;punkman;bet the other guy is butthurt 742585;1404423475;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo match made in heaven huh ? i saw this film cca 1940, back when cagney was the fronteer ruffian and whoever the fuck was the boston damsel 742586;1404423524;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ << someone dump this on reddit btw ? im kinda fond of the description 742587;1404423524;assbot;BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 11.06 B (64%) on Yes, 6.27 B (36%) on No | closing in 2 days 2 hours | weight: 96`953 (100`000 to 10`000) 742588;1404423544;BingoBoingo;Rofl! Nothing at all is New!!! 742589;1404423661;punkman;http://bitbet.us/media/images/ads/bit445.jpg <- "leading sports sport book" heh 742590;1404423751;mircea_popescu;people are missing out on perhaps the only good advertising deal in bitcoin, what can i say. 742591;1404424474;mircea_popescu;wait a god damned fucking second. 10k sq foot space in sf mission 742592;1404424481;mircea_popescu;people are bitching about 30k rent ?! 742593;1404424501;asciilifeform;lol! 742594;1404424501;mircea_popescu;they want to pay... 50 cents a square foot ?! 742595;1404424521;mircea_popescu;what sort of paralel universe is gawker living in. you can't get residential in seattle for 50 cents a sq foot 742596;1404424524;trinque;I think the point was they had no business renting it 742597;1404424527;asciilifeform;where does one get 50 cents? aircraft hangar in kazahstan ? 742598;1404424531;mircea_popescu;seems they did. 742599;1404424557;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform my main place in ro was ~7k sq feet and it cost me like .3 per 742600;1404424559;mircea_popescu;but THATS ME 742601;1404424560;mircea_popescu;wtf. 742602;1404424567;trinque;I'm still trying to figure out what's "genius" about a tradeshow app 742603;1404424578;mike_c;i think i'm paying $3.50, unfortunately out of my own pocket and not some VC 742604;1404424589;mircea_popescu;this is a fucking joke, this article. 742605;1404424601;mircea_popescu;"what conventional business cvould afford 3-4 per sq foot " ?!?! 742606;1404424606;mircea_popescu;i dunno, how about a fucking lemonade stand. 742607;1404424606;mike_c;^ could be said about any gawker article 742608;1404424608;mircea_popescu;selling nails 742609;1404424640;mircea_popescu;your average sf escort could aford a 50k sq foot place to fuck in 742610;1404424705;trinque;http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/23/bloodhound-event-app/ 742611;1404424706;assbot;Conference App Bloodhound’s Genius Growth Strategy Attracts $3M Series A Led By Thiel’s FF Angel | TechCrunch 742612;1404424708;trinque;what a visionary app 742613;1404424758;trinque;words have lost their meaning 742614;1404424787;mircea_popescu;you know, just because a bunch of tards drunk methanol and are now blind 742615;1404424792;mircea_popescu;doesn't mean the sun has lost its shine 742616;1404424906;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uabkPEgpOiY 742617;1404424906;assbot;Silicon Valley 1x07 - Jared - Facial recognition app - YouTube 742618;1404424909;asciilifeform;^ relevant 742619;1404424937;*;BingoBoingo can't wait till startups concern themselves with Burn rate and move to the Mojave in tents 742620;1404424976;trinque;asciilifeform: haha 742621;1404425140;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00081503 = 3.4231 BTC [-] 742622;1404425256;mircea_popescu;"Wed like to thank our wonderful community of nearly 10 years for helping us co-create a space that showcased the immeasurable talent, passion, and diversity of San Franciscos artists, activists, makers, thinkers, and dreamers. We hope that this vision of shared responsibility and radical inclusion extends beyond the life of the organization." 742623;1404425265;mircea_popescu;i think immeasurable is the right word. 742624;1404425289;mircea_popescu;"When Million Fishes started at the corner of 23rd and Bryant in 2003, the gallery windows were boarded shut and drugs were sold on the street outside. When the gallery became a live space, it made the street less attractive for drug dealing, but it also helped usher in the wave of gentrification that has now overtaken us." 742625;1404425299;mircea_popescu;check that out, hippy chicks propose they drove out the thugs 742626;1404425301;mircea_popescu;with free love. 742627;1404425318;asciilifeform;this - the google bus smashers again? 742628;1404425343;mircea_popescu;no idea 742629;1404425433;trinque;mircea_popescu: thugs hate radical acceptance and trust 742630;1404425442;trinque;it is their natural enemy 742631;1404425446;mircea_popescu;totally. 742632;1404425449;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNEUc5k7Jw << also relevant (same movie) 742633;1404425449;assbot;Silicon Valley (HBO) - Parking Lot App. Scene - YouTube 742634;1404425451;mircea_popescu;also, no artist ever did drugs. 742635;1404425498;mircea_popescu;there are also numerous cases of ex drug lords turned into reddit feminists by being held captive in a san francisco commune for two weeks. 742636;1404425519;mircea_popescu;there are hwoever no known cases of abducted retarded artsy chicks that spend the next decade whoring. 742637;1404425545;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1FNQZXW.txt ) 742638;1404425545;BingoBoingo;!b 7 742639;1404425551;mircea_popescu;also, patty hearst is not a historical character. 742640;1404425610;mircea_popescu;(who definitely didn't marry her... bodyguard, afterwards) 742641;1404426132;benkay;done with client work for the weekend wooooooooooo 742642;1404426167;benkay;celebrating american independence day in true cascadian fashion by going up to the forest with the babe and the dog 742643;1404426177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00081713 = 1.4708 BTC [+] 742644;1404426177;benkay;poopin in the bull run 742645;1404426202;benkay;oh yeah, subject of the Bull Run, water *sucks* in Argentina. 742646;1404426208;benkay;leastaways bsas 742647;1404427336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.0142 = 0.7384 BTC [+] {2} 742648;1404427460;mircea_popescu;vilavicencio is ok 742649;1404428626;davout;such priceless -> http://www.cupfoundation.net/ 742650;1404428626;assbot;The Foundation 742651;1404428660;davout;"supports state/country tax recovery and is speculation resistant." 742652;1404428725;mircea_popescu;What is ⊔? 742653;1404428725;mircea_popescu;⊔ is pronounced /kʌp/ and is Unicode character U+2294. 742654;1404428733;mircea_popescu;these fucktards. THAT is what i wanna hear first ? 742655;1404428740;benkay;dafuq? 742656;1404428751;mircea_popescu;in what parallel universe is THAT what interests me ? what are we, in junior high ? 742657;1404428762;davout;yo, create currency, select unicode character, work done 742658;1404428787;mircea_popescu;they've been derping in bars for a year now 742659;1404428788;davout;after reading this i had the weird urge to re-watch the feincoin video 742660;1404428792;mircea_popescu;stil don't have an elevator speech 742661;1404428872;mircea_popescu;http://www.cupfoundation.net/ig_relation.svg 742662;1404428880;mircea_popescu;this has got to be the world's most fucktarded graphic. 742663;1404428894;mircea_popescu;i desire the ability to rescind highschool diplomas via gribble. 742664;1404428904;davout;the guy also derps about another virtual currency, the euro-franc 742665;1404428914;davout;unfortunately this shit isn't translated to english -> http://cupfoundation.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/faq-eurofranc/ 742666;1404428916;assbot;FAQ Eurofranc | Foundation 742667;1404428916;mircea_popescu;;;send everyone involved with cupfoundation back to 5th grade kthx 742668;1404428917;gribble;Error: "send" is not a valid command. 742669;1404428966;davout;basically the idea behind eurofranc is that bitcoin is a scam 742670;1404428978;davout;and that everyone should be entitled to free money every month 742671;1404428997;mircea_popescu;herp. 742672;1404429094;davout;srsly, pankkake Apocalyptic read dat shit if you need a good laugh 742673;1404429105;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00081769 = 19.0522 BTC [+] {4} 742674;1404429109;mircea_popescu;http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-Bikila-EVO-Womens.htm << omg the shoesock lives! 742675;1404429228;benkay;oh heck yeah 742676;1404429237;benkay;you should see the nerds all bedecked 742677;1404429276;mircea_popescu;lol 742678;1404429288;mircea_popescu;why, it gets you laid ? 742679;1404429300;benkay;comfy? 742680;1404429310;mircea_popescu;o they are ? 742681;1404429315;benkay;;;google nonconformity competence 742682;1404429317;gribble;The Red Sneakers Effect: Inferring Status and Competence from ...: ; The Red Sneakers Effect: Inferring Status and Competence from ...: ; Nonconformity, Competence, and Influence in Groups: A Test ... - Jstor: 742683;1404429317;mircea_popescu;i thought they're supposed to be like for running. 742684;1404429323;benkay;super comfy. 742685;1404429327;mircea_popescu;it'd drive me fucking nuts to have shit between my toes. 742686;1404429339;benkay;i mean ultrathin soled shoes in general. 742687;1404429364;benkay;provided you don't mind prancing around on your toes, that is. heel striking is only viable when you've got padding under your heel. 742688;1404429374;benkay;try it on concrete in bare feet, see what i mean. 742689;1404429428;mircea_popescu;no ty, i'm old enough to know exactly what shoes i want. 742690;1404429443;punkman;I had a pair of those, they were very comfortable indeed 742691;1404429508;mircea_popescu;shoes for people that kick no butts. 742692;1404429515;punkman;http://www.vivobarefoot.com/eu/mens <- these guys have thin soles and you don't have to look like a clown 742693;1404429516;assbot;Mens Shoes | Barefoot Trainers | VIVOBAREFOOT 742694;1404429520;davout;i can't wait to report on persianshoes.com 742695;1404429606;benkay;pff that's what the ass-kickin shoes are for 742696;1404429619;benkay;"hang on a sec, i gotta put on my ass-kickin shoes and kick your ass. don't go anywhere." 742697;1404429633;mircea_popescu;punkman they seem like perhaps a credible variant in between making the girls go barefoot everwhere and odd duality. 742698;1404429643;mircea_popescu;provided they have nude colors rather than clown palette 742699;1404429655;punkman;the fivefingers? 742700;1404429658;mircea_popescu;ya 742701;1404429672;benkay;i was hoping for magic fingers, tbqh 742702;1404429679;punkman;yeah might not look so bad on some more delicate feet, but on mine... 742703;1404429710;benkay;another bullshit thing about thevibrams is that they're essentially a heat-sealed plastic bag for your feet. 742704;1404429731;mircea_popescu;benkay o is it actually polymer ? 742705;1404429735;punkman;they have some good fabrics 742706;1404429743;benkay;my first set were. 742707;1404429778;mircea_popescu;scratch that then 742708;1404429796;benkay;who knows if their fancy variants are as well, or if they've solved the 'breathing' problem. 742709;1404429830;punkman;I had the open ones, they were pretty airy 742710;1404429865;benkay;well tchyeah the open ones would be 742711;1404429886;punkman;they had a waterproof boot version back in the day 742712;1404429888;punkman;was hilarious 742713;1404429898;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00081689 = 6.6577 BTC [-] 742714;1404429904;benkay;i think they're great. get intimate with the street etc. 742715;1404429931;benkay;that said, they're not classy at all, and the only performance footwear i actually require are carbon-fiber bike shoes. 742716;1404429936;benkay;which are *also* fucking great. 742717;1404429937;mircea_popescu;what sort of a whore's phylosophy is that. 742718;1404429949;mircea_popescu;i ain't about to get intimate with the street ON THE STREET 742719;1404429951;mircea_popescu;S TERMS 742720;1404429953;benkay;some amount of sarcasm... 742721;1404429957;mircea_popescu;o 742722;1404429961;benkay;but also it's a prophylactic lol 742723;1404429976;benkay;'cause the fuckers seal, you see 742724;1404430251;*;jurov is on lookout for new shoes too 742725;1404430322;jurov;had adidas buckskin sneakers with thin and flexible soles 742726;1404430331;jurov;that took 5 years of abuse 742727;1404430345;jurov;dunno if i find anything like today 742728;1404430493;trinque;how could we jam an encrypted p2p chat app into facebook? 742729;1404430510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00081528 = 3.3426 BTC [-] 742730;1404430515;mircea_popescu;facebookchain ? 742731;1404430545;trinque;mircea_popescu: my thought is that the plebs use facebook and aren't likely to switch 742732;1404430564;trinque;so if some white knight wanted to get them to encrypt their chats he'd have to do so from within 742733;1404430595;punkman;trinque: you can do OTR on facebook 742734;1404430601;punkman;!google facebook otr 742735;1404430661;trinque;punkman: yep if you use XMPP right? 742736;1404430699;punkman;yeah but if both parties have an XMPP client, why even use facebook 742737;1404430814;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/109JCAH.txt ) 742738;1404430814;BingoBoingo;!b 4 742739;1404430839;jurov;yeah that won't even help if they chat via fb website 742740;1404430854;punkman;jurov, but we can do it in the browser!!!111! 742741;1404430869;jurov;is there some easy to use plugin? 742742;1404430876;jurov;at least? 742743;1404430897;punkman;the answer is fuck facebook 742744;1404430902;dignork;jurov: yeah, for pidgin :( 742745;1404431353;kyuupichan;Gonna take a miracle for me to be flat on bitbet this yr. 742746;1404431747;kyuupichan;;;bc,stats 742747;1404431750;gribble;Current Blocks: 309080 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1383 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 5 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15891657670.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.51063 742748;1404431808;kyuupichan;http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/ 742749;1404431808;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (35%) on Yes, 2.44 B (65%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 83`253 (100`000 to 1) 742750;1404431812;kyuupichan;Still no-one tempted 742751;1404431944;benkay;betting against diff? 742752;1404431965;benkay;http://planscope.io/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/youre-going-to-have-a-bad-time.png 742753;1404432055;kyuupichan;Every 60 blocks, apart from the first one, since the diff increase has been slower than 10hrs. Some hashpower is gonna have to appear soon to make it up and stop a fall. 742754;1404432081;kyuupichan;Wonder where it all went. 742755;1404432381;mircea_popescu;trinque you can't encrypt "from within" in that context i dont think 742756;1404432459;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan people been so burned on diff bets... 742757;1404432469;mircea_popescu;look through the logs. it keeps looking that way, but then... nope. 742758;1404432486;kyuupichan;I'm well up on diff bets. Got utterly fucked on the Gox 1st March bet tho. 742759;1404432521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.03273408 = 1.8331 BTC [-] {7} 742760;1404432533;kyuupichan;Biggest money launderers in fiat complain about money laundering potential of bitcoin 742761;1404432535;kyuupichan;http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/0703/628309-bitfin-conference/ 742762;1404432535;assbot;Central Bank official warns on Bitcoin impact - RTÉ News 742763;1404432708;mircea_popescu;i wonder how long till the hos figure out the prize for bitching is beating, and they really wanna line up in here ready to suck us off. 742764;1404432741;mircea_popescu;who the fuck asked fiat bankers what they think on any topic ? what's next, asking the primitive tribes in africa about interspatial flight ? 742765;1404433206;mircea_popescu;;;later tell kakobrekla hey let's improve the odds calculator for bitbet. Calculator: placing a winning BTC bet on:Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC No pays: 2.41177082 BTC should read : Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC (~47/100) No pays: 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100). it's fucktarded, but some people are used to it. 742766;1404433207;gribble;The operation succeeded. 742767;1404433282;mike_c;hey, what about american odds? 742768;1404433303;mircea_popescu;which are those ? 742769;1404433316;mike_c;+141 and -213 742770;1404433332;mircea_popescu;a 742771;1404433343;BingoBoingo;mike_c: You don't even use those, you use decimal odds! 742772;1404433354;mike_c;who the hell can understand american odds 742773;1404433492;mircea_popescu;;;later tell kakobrekla apparently also moneyline ( moneyline = (-100) / (decimal -1) , so 1.46984385 BTC (~47/100 ; −212.83) 742774;1404433493;gribble;The operation succeeded. 742775;1404433598;mircea_popescu;;;later tell kakobrekla except if it's over 2, then it's (decimal-1)/100, so 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100 ; +141.17) 742776;1404433598;gribble;The operation succeeded. 742777;1404433618;mircea_popescu;pretty fucktarded, the moneyline system 742778;1404433621;mike_c;* 100, but he'll get it 742779;1404433737;mike_c;given that I have been more exposed to american odds than anything else, I don't think I am biased when I say decimal odds are by far the best method. 742780;1404433752;mircea_popescu;i don't think an argument can be had there. 742781;1404433844;mircea_popescu;anyway, by not simplifying the fractions i think we'll be doing a lot to ease brits into sanity. 742782;1404433888;BingoBoingo;Well, most Asian odds are fractional anyway right? 742783;1404433915;mircea_popescu;i have no idea 742784;1404434021;BingoBoingo;%t 742785;1404434024;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 201 Ask: 250 Last Price: 200 24h-Vol: 61k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 218 742786;1404434037;BingoBoingo;%d 742787;1404434038;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 1100005.78 in 1971 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 40.10 742788;1404434051;BingoBoingo;%ob 742789;1404434052;atcbot;19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 45k@201 30k@200 898k@199 742790;1404434239;BingoBoingo;%tslb 742791;1404434240;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 742792;1404434473;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00081638 = 4.8575 BTC [+] 742793;1404434690;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 742794;1404434692;gribble;Current Blocks: 309086 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1377 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 43 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15931508982.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.27368 742795;1404434780;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/ 742796;1404434780;assbot;BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014 :: 0.96 B (88%) on Yes, 0.13 B (12%) on No | closed 3 months 2 hours ago 742797;1404434784;mircea_popescu;jesus that bet. 742798;1404434991;BingoBoingo;That was one of the better small pots. Seems there was no reason to put any money on "No" though 742799;1404435030;mircea_popescu;nuts that it called it one month early. 742800;1404435077;BingoBoingo;Well, I write bets gud. Like this time I bet against people I know IRL http://bitbet.us/bet/312/npda-college-debate-championship-2013-mckendree-college/ 742801;1404435077;assbot;BitBet - NPDA College Debate Championship 2013 - McKendree College to win :: 2.35 B (34%) on Yes, 4.5 B (66%) on No | closed 1 year 3 months ago 742802;1404435144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1624 @ 0.00081638 = 1.3258 BTC [+] 742803;1404435269;mircea_popescu;;;diff 742804;1404435269;gribble;1.6818461371161112E10 742805;1404435282;BingoBoingo;%ob 742806;1404435283;atcbot;19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 250k@225 45k@201 30k@200 742807;1404435449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4776 @ 0.00081638 = 3.899 BTC [+] 742808;1404435452;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ 742809;1404435521;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/yankees-reliever-suspended-50-games-for-fun-drugs-1599845051 742810;1404435521;assbot;Yankees Reliever Suspended 50 Games For Fun Drugs 742811;1404435587;BingoBoingo;^ If you can you must 742812;1404435799;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: What is this maximum open orders bullshit? 742813;1404435965;mircea_popescu;!up noirotica 742814;1404435998;mircea_popescu;is this deadspin site a gawker property ? 742815;1404436003;mircea_popescu;same idiotic native css 742816;1404436063;trinque;let the athletes do their drugs, I say. 742817;1404436094;trinque;imagine a hockey game where the players are all jacked on amphetamines 742818;1404436097;trinque;now that's excitement 742819;1404436120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.01170499 = 0.5267 BTC [-] {4} 742820;1404436135;mircea_popescu;trinque you dont grok the economics involved. 742821;1404436144;mike_c;mircea_popescu: yes.. part of the "gawker media group". bingo is addicted. probably worse for his liver than drinking. 742822;1404436167;mircea_popescu;hockey thrives on us and canada advertising. that advertising sells to males. males are pussies, and will only watc h the sport if the woman in charge of them allows it. 742823;1404436181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 279 @ 0.01166006 = 3.2532 BTC [-] {2} 742824;1404436185;mircea_popescu;women are mentally ill, and will not allow them watch it if it's bloody. 742825;1404436198;mircea_popescu;your proposal goes against the very point of hockey, which is ad revenue. 742826;1404436206;mircea_popescu;mike_c i can see it. 742827;1404436214;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,995. 742828;1404436222;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It is generally it is the less retarded one, but still awfully retarded 742829;1404436242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 61 @ 0.01151556 = 0.7024 BTC [-] {3} 742830;1404436461;trinque;mircea_popescu: that's mighty MRA of you 742831;1404436483;mircea_popescu;;;ud mra 742832;1404436484;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MRA | MRA. Acronym for a group called Men's Rights Activists. I.E. - A bunch of whiny pedantic morons that think there is some vast Illuminati feminist conspiracy while  ... 742833;1404436499;mircea_popescu;o srsly ? 742834;1404436546;mircea_popescu;ok, so you telling me that if hockey was offensive to every woman you knew, like on the level of infant snuff videos offensive, you'd still watch it ? 742835;1404436567;trinque;I'm not aware of a vast female campaign against hockey 742836;1404436592;mircea_popescu;wasn't what i said was it ? 742837;1404436615;trinque;something something mentally ill something blood 742838;1404436624;trinque;anyhow this is not something I am deeply concerned about 742839;1404436668;mircea_popescu;interesting approach. 742840;1404436687;mircea_popescu;you may find that the noun-only filter doesn't work equally well in all environments. 742841;1404436689;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> ok, so you telling me that if hockey was offensive to every woman you knew << he still watches porn. 742842;1404436710;trinque;mircea_popescu: "women are mentally ill" 742843;1404436723;trinque;that's 15 year old boy level discourse right there 742844;1404436723;mircea_popescu;this is arguing for "men's rights" ? 742845;1404436729;mircea_popescu;... 742846;1404436753;mircea_popescu;you think north american women are, generally speaking, mentally healthy ?! 742847;1404436791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 103 @ 0.01033644 = 1.0647 BTC [-] {4} 742848;1404436794;trinque;I think most modern humans are not mentally healthy, and that the distinction has nothing to do with gender 742849;1404436820;trinque;although if you want to find a reason, taking a look at the patriarchial relationships between men would be a good place to start 742850;1404436836;mircea_popescu;but this contextualization is absolutely irrelevant. 742851;1404436847;mircea_popescu;my argument doesn't hinge on the mental health of anyone else outside the identified group. 742852;1404436861;trinque;mircea_popescu: you're backpedaling from "bitches be crazy" 742853;1404436863;trinque;:p 742854;1404436869;mircea_popescu;if i tell you how the internal combustion engine works and i include a mention of gasoline being combustible, you're going to say that hydrogen also burns ? 742855;1404436879;mircea_popescu;so does zinc, for crying out loud. so what of it. 742856;1404436890;trinque;again, if you want your silly little boy rhetoric about women, keep it 742857;1404436910;trinque;you're not embarassing me 742858;1404436913;mircea_popescu;trinque i toldja the "nouns-only" filter doesn't work. it's not my fault it don't work. i didn't say "bitchez be crazy", and you're not at liberty to identify any things with three holes and a nubbin. 742859;1404436970;mircea_popescu;that's ok. you'll be embarrassed if i want you to be, or not if i don't want you to be. it's a tool of power, and i'm immune to it, this embarassment thingee. 742860;1404437005;trinque;oh dear 742861;1404437069;mircea_popescu;well, you're at least doing better than the previous derp who stumbled in here, so who knows. maybe this time it works out. 742862;1404437127;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com mircea's dick 742863;1404437127;gribble;Were you misled by the Internet ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; BitBet r Us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; “I saw, and was saddened.” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 742864;1404437263;mircea_popescu;!up jborkl 742865;1404437270;mircea_popescu;what happened to you 742866;1404437272;jborkl;Grazi 742867;1404437313;jborkl;I have been non stop either work or building php back end 742868;1404437344;mircea_popescu;don't tell people here you're php ing they'll be mean. 742869;1404437386;mircea_popescu;http://listverse.com/2009/12/26/10-urban-legends-that-caused-a-moral-panic/ << check out this clump of wisdom. 742870;1404437387;assbot;10 Urban Legends that Caused a Moral Panic - Listverse 742871;1404437387;BingoBoingo;==== mean 742872;1404437393;jborkl;Oh well I mean Go. You know so I can cool 742873;1404437398;jborkl;Be 742874;1404437407;BingoBoingo;Maybe even B===========================================D kinda mean 742875;1404437408;mircea_popescu;rainbow parties never happened. nobody gets drunk by taking alcohol up his butt. no snuff film was ever produced. 742876;1404437410;mircea_popescu;list goes on 742877;1404437487;BingoBoingo;Eh, snuff films are prolly the most IRL common of those listed things. 742878;1404437533;mircea_popescu;depends whose l i guess. 742879;1404437569;jborkl;Shitty finger tattoos just mean you live or have lived in a trailer park 742880;1404437593;BingoBoingo;Well considering Dash cams are a thing, and what kills more than motor carriage accidents? 742881;1404437633;mircea_popescu;o i see. 742882;1404437661;BingoBoingo;Snuff films seem to be a self realizing urban legend 742883;1404437663;asciilifeform;item #6 was originally purported to happen in african pestholes. no mention of this. 742884;1404437702;jborkl;And trailer park chicks will do about anything anyway :/ 742885;1404437704;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i recall that, yeah. 742886;1404437706;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.03079906 = 0.5852 BTC [-] 742887;1404437707;asciilifeform;http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/africa2.htm 742888;1404437707;assbot;BLEEDING HEARTS 742889;1404437728;mircea_popescu;jborkl is this the voice of experience ? 742890;1404437770;jborkl;I have known many trailer trash girls. 742891;1404437802;mircea_popescu;benkay incidentally, where do you find them ? 742892;1404437812;mircea_popescu;or maybe the better q should be, how do you keep your sanitee. 742893;1404437862;asciilifeform;http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201111/movie-set-that-ate-itself-dau-ilya-khrzhanovsky 742894;1404437863;assbot;On the Movie Set of Director Ilya Khrzhanovsky's Dau 742895;1404437906;asciilifeform;^ found through that link. demented film maker decides to make a biopic of lev landau (of landau & lifschitz), gets people to live in a 'soviet reservation' for realism. 742896;1404437960;mircea_popescu;is the film worth it ? 742897;1404437966;asciilifeform;haven't seen yet. 742898;1404437972;jborkl;That is bumming me out that rainbow parties are in there. I kept hoping I would be invited to be on the liptstick reciving side 742899;1404438007;asciilifeform;http://www.caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/never-ending-story 742900;1404438008;assbot;The Never-ending Story | The Caravan - A Journal of Politics and Culture 742901;1404438009;asciilifeform;^ more 742902;1404438067;mircea_popescu;jborkl to quote frankie, "to have fun you need to organize it" 742903;1404438119;asciilifeform;'Director Ilya Khrzhanovsky on set. He is known to interview potential female cast members with questions like Can you come up to a guy in a club and sleep with him without finding out as much as his name?, or Are any of your friends whores?' 742904;1404438193;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform afaik any cinema school worth its salt requires nude practice from juniors. 742905;1404438200;mircea_popescu;kinda weeds out the actors from the hippies. 742906;1404438205;asciilifeform;'The fine system is the Institute's latest innovation. Khrzhanovsky decreed it a few months ago, fed up with staffers smuggling cell phones and talking about Facebook. Other finable offenses include tardiness, which costs a whole day's pay, and failure to renew the fake Institute pass. The program has been a hit. Not only has morale improved, a whole new euphemistic vocabulary has sprouted up. ("Google" is now " 742907;1404438205;asciilifeform;Pravda," as in "Pravda it.") The fine system has also fostered a robust culture of snitching. "In a totalitarian regime, mechanisms of suppression trigger mechanisms of betrayal," the director explains. "I am very interested in that."' 742908;1404438258;asciilifeform;'Landau significantly advanced quantum mechanics with his theories of diamagnetism, superfluidity, and superconductivity. He also tapped epic amounts of ass.' 742909;1404438264;punkman;asciilifeform: I remember reading about that year's ago, so he's finally gonna release something 742910;1404438287;mircea_popescu;punkman sounds more like the guy's in it for the kicks 742911;1404438296;punkman;too bad he won't put up a torrent with 6 years worth of footage 742912;1404438298;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform is that true ? 742913;1404438301;asciilifeform;'The only acting professional in the cast is Radmila Shchegoleva, who plays Landau's wife; before shooting began, she spent a full year working at a chocolate factory and a hospital, a regimen devised by Khrzhanovsky to beat the actress out of her.' 742914;1404438314;asciilifeform;seems like its in pre-release edits 742915;1404438317;jborkl;200,000 blocks built 1.5gb so far. I think my new block explorer will be about 3gb 742916;1404438320;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Yeast begin dying around 15 proof. Alcohol is a choice antimicrobial agent. To obtain higher proofs you must distill the mash to make poteen, white lightning... brandy, or single malt scotch. << Freezing works too though it tends to leave fusile alcohols 742917;1404438357;mike_c;jborkl: i doubt it. those last 100k blocks are a doozie :) 742918;1404438386;mircea_popescu;lol mike knows 742919;1404438414;BingoBoingo;Yeah, Imma playing with the blockchain atm (Really nice size for testing database operations speeds) It gets bigger 742920;1404438438;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00081782 = 2.3308 BTC [+] {2} 742921;1404438443;mircea_popescu;so is this mra thing more than people being pissed off at the way us family court works re allocating children in a divorce ? 742922;1404438485;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well it's also morally impoverished men wishing they can be what they imagine western feminism is 742923;1404438510;jborkl;Well the way I am building it I think will work out that way. I will find out sometime tomorrow I guess 742924;1404438519;mircea_popescu;according to them, or more trinquesque "all items with three holes on them are powerplugs" sorta strawman ? 742925;1404438551;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as i understand, it's a peculiarly sad 'chinese copy' of the usual 'victimhood olympics.' 742926;1404438563;BingoBoingo;Of course, person willing to pay $10k/hr makes their own holes 742927;1404438606;asciilifeform;picture a strike at a meat processing plant. suddenly the cattle can talk - and decide to 'join' the strikers. 742928;1404438617;asciilifeform;'we want our rights too' 742929;1404438638;BingoBoingo;Thanks to risperidone, the pro-lactation anti-psychotic drug men wishing to break into traditionally feminine fields can now audition for the job of "wet nurse" 742930;1404438685;mircea_popescu;so basically, a society of slaves constructed around "rights" rahter than freedom ends up a contest in contemptibility. 742931;1404438702;asciilifeform;news at eleven. 742932;1404438707;mircea_popescu;everyone wanting to whisper into the ear of State about their many and varied shortcomings. 742933;1404438707;jborkl;Wtf? Dudes want to lactate? 742934;1404438720;BingoBoingo;jborkl: Not want to, can. 742935;1404438729;asciilifeform;jborkl: no - original question was about a set that wanted 'rights' 742936;1404438764;jborkl;I drip enough white shit out the lower hole . I don't want anything coming out the top also 742937;1404438806;mircea_popescu;http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-lounge-main-forum/victimhood-olympics-modern-workplace-2153/ 742938;1404438808;assbot;The Victimhood Olympics of the Modern Workplace 742939;1404438825;mircea_popescu;this is kinda funny, in that i had no fucking idea running a hepa filter in an open space can prevent allergic reactions. 742940;1404438833;jborkl;I got a postcard from Tokyo today 742941;1404438845;jborkl;Told me mtgox went bankrupt 742942;1404438892;mircea_popescu;was it a good card ? 742943;1404438899;mircea_popescu;sunset ? something ? 742944;1404438909;BingoBoingo;Postcards are the best way to transmit pornography 742945;1404439074;jborkl;It was all in Japanese except for the bankrupt part. Why didn't you guys tell me mtgox went bankrupt? I had to find out like this? 742946;1404439084;jborkl;Fuck 742947;1404439098;jborkl;:) 742948;1404439124;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl 742949;1404439225;BingoBoingo;jborkl: Well in a sane legal jurisdiction what you'd do is do through the motions of petitioning the trustee for discovery that any distinction between MtGox, Tibbane, and Karpales is fictitious and attach the debts and their repayment to his person. 742950;1404439322;jborkl;I forgot to tell you I have a really strange sense of humor 742951;1404439341;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo his person is worth just about not enough to be worth pursuing. 742952;1404439359;BingoBoingo;If this goes through Kraprales is forced to pursue various fraud and misrepresentation angles against Jed et al 742953;1404439363;jborkl;^true that mp 742954;1404439379;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: His person is the right build for rendering into Biodiesel 742955;1404439380;mircea_popescu;incidentally, anyone wanna mpoe-pr on http://www.goingyourownway.com/ ? 742956;1404439381;assbot;Going Your Own Way 742957;1404439400;mircea_popescu;turns out this exercise in discussing with the silly has at least yielded some interesting results 742958;1404439426;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: What's the forum's point? 742959;1404439430;asciilifeform;the landau film has precedent. when they filmed the infamous nazi atrocity pic 'come and see', they fired real bullets over the heads of the actors 742960;1404439439;mircea_popescu;i have no fucking idea BingoBoingo. this is exploratory. 742961;1404439508;BingoBoingo;Fucking my F.MPIF to non F.MPIF post ratio is getting to high. I'll blog the forum to learn its seekrits. 742962;1404439509;mircea_popescu;;;ud incel 742963;1404439510;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=incel | "Involuntary Celibate". A frustrated virgin who feels as if the world owes them sex. A self-described 'incel' is highly likely to blame their virginity on the other ... 742964;1404439522;mircea_popescu;jesus english is turning into chinese 742965;1404439525;mircea_popescu;a word for everything 742966;1404439532;mircea_popescu;then make contractions out of expressions 742967;1404439532;BingoBoingo;Ingsoc 742968;1404439559;mircea_popescu;Post anything negative about the Admin of MGTOWForums (the forum that gave rise to this one). 742969;1404439575;mircea_popescu;i have no idea wtf mgtowf was, but apparently there's drama to be had. 742970;1404439622;mircea_popescu;Dear all, 742971;1404439623;mircea_popescu;For 3 years I've worked to build up MGTOW Forums into a force to be reckoned with, but alas it has failed. It has failed because of the very reasons which brought down the previous MGTOW board: inexperienced idiots who were angry at not being able to get laid - betas, zetas, red pills and the rest of the rubbish. 742972;1404439623;mircea_popescu;At MGTOW Forums, we spent years fighting such fools who were psychos, incels and who vocally supported other places, that I won't mention, over our own. Such people were against us yet we managed to beat them time and time again. 742973;1404439628;mircea_popescu;wait. there is A LOT MORE dram 742974;1404439629;mircea_popescu;a 742975;1404439681;mircea_popescu;Living the Best Life: A big emphasis for us. Talk about: poker nights, video games, travel, lifting, books you're reading, that great anime you watched, sports you're doing, hobbies, philosophy, and on and on. 742976;1404439684;mircea_popescu;ahgahaa o god. 742977;1404439709;mircea_popescu;Game: This one sets us apart. Our view is that being MGTOW means downing the 'red pill' and understanding the nature of women. Once you do so, the rest is up to you. It's a perfectly valid option to sit it out, to ghost when it comes to women. And it's just as valid to "scratch that itch" with escorts, either at home or abroad. But for guys who, knowing what they know, want to use game to set up plates, date, est 742978;1404439709;mircea_popescu;ablish/manage FWBs (friends with benefits), this sub-forum is for that. 742979;1404439732;mircea_popescu;how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ? 742980;1404439732;BingoBoingo;-"We're not obsessed with notch-count, we don't define our worth as men in terms of success or approval by women. Plenty of great men with actual value (AV) don't necessarily have sexual market value (SMV) and don't care. Being a better man happens in Living the Best Life."- << Sounds like a job for BtcAlpha 742981;1404439739;mircea_popescu;what's this, like some sort of monastic orders ? 742982;1404439746;BingoBoingo;Sounds like it. 742983;1404439761;mircea_popescu;how does it sound like a job for btcalpha ? 742984;1404439790;mircea_popescu;Action: Many of us were fumbling around in the blue-pill wilderness for decades. Why let another poor soul languish in the Matrix to go around getting rejected, orbit around a land whale for years, getting talked into a marriage he doesn't want or need, be brainwashed by feminism to think his purpose in life is to serve a woman or serve society by being a beta-male slave, having his surplus labor siphoned off by women, 742985;1404439790;mircea_popescu;rugrats and Uncle Sam? 742986;1404439799;mircea_popescu;wait, what the fuck is wrong with people being what they are ? 742987;1404439801;BingoBoingo;Deadspin at its less bad >> http://deadspin.com/how-the-ufcs-biggest-show-of-the-year-turned-into-a-fia-1594743611 742988;1404439803;assbot;How The UFC's Biggest Show Of The Year Turned Into A Fiasco 742989;1404439812;mircea_popescu;i'll never understand my contemporaries ;/ 742990;1404439886;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The Sexual market value bullshit. 742991;1404439904;mircea_popescu;but you know the alpha is in reference to the finance greek 742992;1404439907;BingoBoingo;Maybe mike_c can use this thing as an intern gauntlet 742993;1404439983;mircea_popescu;"Ive had sex with over 40 women in my past, during a time when there was no such thing as formalized Game." 742994;1404439987;asciilifeform;phun phact: 'sexual market value' afaik, as a phrase, was first coughed up by dan mocsny. 742995;1404439994;mircea_popescu;i never heard "over 40 women" before. 742996;1404440036;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: '3 ani experienta' ? 742997;1404440050;mircea_popescu;sounds like it. 742998;1404440066;mircea_popescu;i mean... too little to be a lot, too many to be a few, wtf qualification is this. 742999;1404440075;mircea_popescu;"i've driven over six types of cars in my life". 743000;1404440092;mike_c;BingoBoingo: War of Interns. i like it. 743001;1404440100;jborkl;So is he banging grannys or 40 chicks 743002;1404440115;mircea_popescu;you can probably fuck forty women by being an assistant on a porn set for i dunno, five weeks. 743003;1404440145;mircea_popescu;"this one time in between jobs i ended up pushing around crates for this porn firm i nthe valley" 743004;1404440150;mircea_popescu;"good for you, i worked at mcdonalds". 743005;1404440183;jborkl;I had over 80 women but that was kinda gross and smelled like mothballs 743006;1404440463;mircea_popescu;;;ud SMP 743007;1404440464;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smp | SMP. Stands for "suck my pussy," derived from one of Sophitia's special grab move in Soul Calibur III, where she takes her opponent's head, puts it between her ... 743008;1404440477;mircea_popescu;hm. 743009;1404440530;mircea_popescu;manosphere ? 743010;1404440541;mircea_popescu;jesus god this is like an entire thing isn;'t it. 743011;1404440587;mircea_popescu;Try as we may, convincing a woman that her sexual peak lay actually between 18 and 25 is always an effort in debating denial. For all the self-convincing attempts to redefine sexual valuation to the contrary, SMV for women is ultimately decided by Men. Thus this bell curve is intended to represent the sexual value of women based on mens metrics, not as women (by way of ceaseless social engineering) would like to def 743012;1404440587;mircea_popescu;ine desirability. 743013;1404440653;mircea_popescu;uh. this is fucking nonsense. for one, why 18, exactly ?! for the other... meh. it's a good time to start training a woman, but doubtless you'll get her anywhere pleasant before late twenties. 743014;1404440665;mircea_popescu;s/doubtless/doubtful 743015;1404440766;benkay; benkay incidentally, where do you find them ? // for srs? 743016;1404440779;mircea_popescu;benkay yea ? 743017;1404440784;benkay;america 743018;1404440833;jborkl;Women? 743019;1404440872;mircea_popescu;benkay so are you going to end up like ostracized @work and eventually gasenwagen't ? 743020;1404440883;benkay;nigga pleez 743021;1404440893;benkay;i *am* the ostracizer. 743022;1404440928;mircea_popescu;o ic. 743023;1404440932;benkay;oh ho ho 743024;1404440940;benkay;mircea_popescu going down the mra rathole 743025;1404440972;benkay;lololol bitcoin drama pales 743026;1404440993;mircea_popescu;benkay i had no idea teh 2000s pua lulz ended up quite so... berthy. 743027;1404441001;benkay;berthy? 743028;1404441022;mircea_popescu;well it's not ellaborate, not really. it's not deep, it's not complex. all it is is... berthy. as in wide. 743029;1404441042;benkay; how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ? // dunno man its a joy apparently few american guys en...joy 743030;1404441061;benkay;hah okay i'm chuckled. 743031;1404441103;mircea_popescu;anyway, used to lulz with the girls at this thing a decade ago. back then it was like a sort of you know, bambi 743032;1404441109;mircea_popescu;sorta falling all over its own legs. 743033;1404441117;benkay;derpaly derpaly doo 743034;1404441119;mircea_popescu;go around do other things, turn back, now it's a hippo. 743035;1404441123;mircea_popescu;a 4500 lb hippo 743036;1404441127;benkay;hoompa loompa dorp 743037;1404441136;mircea_popescu;aaaanyways. 743038;1404441176;benkay;wait - that's all the log i get? 743039;1404441181;mircea_popescu;i wonder if mozart being accused of being so pop-sounding by some goffy teenager in 1781 was nearly as amused 743040;1404441194;benkay;i gotta find more and better i guess 743041;1404441271;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1xkwq6/mgtowforums_shut_down/ 743042;1404441273;assbot;MGTOWForums - Shut Down : TheRedPill 743043;1404441277;mircea_popescu;this drama is almost btc-level good 743044;1404441314;benkay;k i've got mircea_popescu distracted y'all 743045;1404441323;benkay;let's nefarious a something 743046;1404441357;mircea_popescu;;;ud MGTOW 743047;1404441358;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW | Men/Man Going Their Own Way. MGTOW is basically the statement of self- ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals i... 743048;1404441368;mircea_popescu;uh. 743049;1404441375;mircea_popescu;this needs a 5 letter acronym nao. 743050;1404441520;benkay;no it needs 5 thousand trilema words 743051;1404441537;mircea_popescu;http://www.justfourguys.com/what-happens-when-you-date-an-angry-incel/ 743052;1404441538;assbot;What Happens When You Date An Angry Incel (Guest Post By Ms. Emma) | Just Four Guys 743053;1404441549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00082191 = 4.1506 BTC [+] 743054;1404441552;mircea_popescu;benkay what the fuck am i going to write about it ? 743055;1404441556;mircea_popescu;pretty much only lol comes to mind. 743056;1404441591;mircea_popescu;;;ud fundie 743057;1404441591;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUNDIE | The brain of the "Christian" fundie, while generally underdeveloped and often host of outlandish delusions, has a large capacity for memorization of Bible verses ... 743058;1404441617;benkay;hey danielpbarron that's you! 743059;1404441678;mircea_popescu;i thought it was supposed to be someone with a trust fund 743060;1404441712;benkay;i don't think urban dictionary populators have much contact with trust fund babie. 743061;1404441714;benkay;babies* 743062;1404441762;mircea_popescu;yeah, what people with money sit around on the internet all day. 743063;1404441817;benkay;deliberately misconstrue harder 743064;1404441836;benkay;what redditard has contact with actual capital. 743065;1404441867;mircea_popescu;don't they go to pg's house once each year to eat ramen out of golden bowls ? 743066;1404441883;benkay;they also practice celling sereal 743067;1404441915;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00081733 = 6.2526 BTC [-] {2} 743068;1404441989;mircea_popescu;someone should do a map of the internet. not the bullshit nobody cares about corps like google and pinterest, 743069;1404442000;mircea_popescu;but the actual places where usg enters the system. 743070;1404442015;mircea_popescu;count active "feminist" outlets and compare with "manosphere" for headcount. 743071;1404442029;mircea_popescu;see if there's more tech geeks than body builders 743072;1404442030;mircea_popescu;etc 743073;1404442106;mircea_popescu;"Feminists like to use the presence of anger and sadness as a sign that the manosphere is a sad, terrible place." << lol yeah, because that's the feminist way : project patriarchy ideas opressing you outward. men should hate themselves for being angry just like we do!!11 743074;1404442243;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu do you know about timelocks (in btc txs)? 743075;1404442259;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many of these various and sundry internet groups are mefiant/angry with bitcoin for the yarvin reason : they poured their energy into a different obscure thing, and what is this bitcoin to succeed exactly the way they had hoped their thing to succeed! 743076;1404442294;mircea_popescu;it's like knocking a woman up and moving to suburbia to have a perfect ballerina daughter only to end up with a braindamaged kid while the next door neighbour "gets" the ballerina. 743077;1404442302;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller what specifically ? 743078;1404442348;mircea_popescu;there's a nlock variable you can set in any tx 743079;1404442380;thestringpuller;simple use case: trust fund. guy wants to give someone money in the future, but only wants that person to unlock that transaction at some future block height f 743080;1404442410;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure this is possible. 743081;1404442413;thestringpuller;so the benefactor signs tx with n lock variable 743082;1404442421;thestringpuller;and then gives tx to the beneficiary 743083;1404442431;thestringpuller;however who is to say benefactor isn't malicious 743084;1404442440;thestringpuller;couldn't the benefactor double spend before block height f 743085;1404442447;thestringpuller;thus beneficiary never receives his fund? 743086;1404442454;mircea_popescu;nah, tx wouldn't be accepted. 743087;1404442487;thestringpuller;but if the tx with the n-lock is never announced, how would any node know? 743088;1404442488;mircea_popescu;"Feminism, on the other hand, has no problem using violence against their ideological enemies free speech, men who make lame jokes, men who approach a woman wrong, men who dont look attractive the next morning, and so on. Of course, this is all violence done by the state, so its technically not violence." 743089;1404442496;mircea_popescu;lol what sort of bs is this ? what, specifically, can "feminism" do ? 743090;1404442526;thestringpuller;the benefactor could make a new tx without nlock and send the unspent outputs elsewhere no? 743091;1404442541;thestringpuller;unless I'm missing something 743092;1404442553;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller once the nlock tx is into the chain, the btc is on the dest address, and that address can't sign a standard tx until the nlock expires 743093;1404442616;mircea_popescu;"The manosphere is not an exclusive club. It will have its dark corners and violent people, like any large movement that protests something. And sexually frustrated beta male rage could just be the dark side of masculinity. It is uncomfortable for MRAs, the way cuckoldry, hypergamy and false accusations are uncomfortable for feminists." 743094;1404442620;thestringpuller;hmm? "nLockTime is a parameter that can be attached to a transaction, that mandates a minimal time (specified in either unix time or block height), that before this time, the transaction cannot be accepted into a block." << i thought this meant that the tx with the nlock cannot be accepted into the block chain until said block heigh has arrived/passed? 743095;1404442626;mircea_popescu;how is feminism uncomfortable with any of those ?! 743096;1404442633;asciilifeform;what, specifically, can "feminism" do << s/feminism/usg 743097;1404442646;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not nearly the same. 743098;1404442649;mircea_popescu;not at all. 743099;1404442664;mircea_popescu;actually, i don't know a single feminist, actual, honest fmeinist in a place of power within the usg. not one. 743100;1404442667;asciilifeform;not entirely unlike the relation of, e.g. marxism to ussr 743101;1404442686;asciilifeform;part of the official catechism 743102;1404442688;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller hm. 743103;1404442701;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so name a marxist in power in the ussr. 743104;1404442709;mircea_popescu;afaik the only one ended up with a pickaxe in his eye socket. 743105;1404442710;asciilifeform;precisely this - you don't need one 743106;1404442717;asciilifeform;hence axe. 743107;1404442730;mircea_popescu;right. so feminism is about as powerful as astrology. 743108;1404442733;asciilifeform;'believers' tend to make a hash of things. 743109;1404442764;asciilifeform;as a kind of decorative slipcover for policy that 'must happen anyway', it works just the same. 743110;1404442794;asciilifeform;'astrologist said now's a good time to shoot the prisoners.' 743111;1404442803;asciilifeform;not that they'd have walked sans astrologist. 743112;1404442847;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller actually lol, nlocktime only works until block 500mn. 743113;1404442926;mircea_popescu;but yes, it seems you are right : one could doublespend a nlocktime tx after all, making it kinda useless in practice. 743114;1404442926;asciilifeform;the original inspiration for the 'mra' folks was possibly the invalid 'community', where the nuttier ones actually thought that, e.g. being legless only sucks because of a 'conspiracy' of the two-legged 743115;1404442948;mircea_popescu;this was a thing ? 743116;1404442953;asciilifeform;still is 743117;1404442963;asciilifeform;;;google deaf community cochlear implants 743118;1404442963;gribble;The Cochlear Implant Controversy - Daily Kos: ; Cochlear implants change deaf culture as importance of American ...: ; Sound and Fury - Cochlear Implants - The Debate - PBS: (1 more message) 743119;1404442980;asciilifeform;'oh noez they're holocausting us by curing deafness' 743120;1404443034;mircea_popescu;ahahaha what 743121;1404443047;mircea_popescu;i guess this is perversely a sign of health. 743122;1404443072;mircea_popescu;a sort of intellectual stotting behaviour, where any idiocy is argued in all seriousness. 743123;1404443076;asciilifeform;i vaguely recall a documented case where deaf women sued for the right to 'in vitro' select deaf samples from a set of foeti 743124;1404443127;mircea_popescu;uh 743125;1404443140;mircea_popescu;did they win ? 743126;1404443141;asciilifeform;this kind of thing, in other variants, is pretty big in usa. for instance, pretty much nobody births a down's syndrome case any more other than deliberately. 743127;1404443152;asciilifeform;did they win << don't recall, couldn't be bothered 743128;1404443210;asciilifeform;i like to refer to these folks as 'elphialtes's army' 743129;1404443226;asciilifeform;specifically the fellow as portrayed in the film '300 spartans' 743130;1404443286;cazalla;there are downie groups calling for downie rights too 743131;1404443297;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwK3VkbxLLU 743132;1404443297;assbot;The Art of No Compromises - YouTube 743133;1404443298;cazalla;cause downie birth rates dropped by something like 95% or something 743134;1404443311;mircea_popescu;cazalla hopefully including the right to 4.0 gpa ? 743135;1404443502;asciilifeform;many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system) 743136;1404443521;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's legitimate researchg tho. 743137;1404443530;cazalla;as retards became an even smaller minority, this shit started popping up as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T549VoLca_Q 743138;1404443530;assbot;Not Acceptable R-word PSA - YouTube 743139;1404443531;asciilifeform;research is when there is something useful to be learned 743140;1404443542;mircea_popescu;you only know that retrospectively. 743141;1404443555;mircea_popescu;moon landing also tremendous cost to the taxpayer. 743142;1404443560;asciilifeform;what herr mengele, or japanese 'unit 731' did - was considerably more valuable scientifically. 743143;1404443562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13149 @ 0.00082303 = 10.822 BTC [+] {2} 743144;1404443562;mircea_popescu;most expensive useless rocks ever. 743145;1404443570;mircea_popescu;no way. 743146;1404443589;asciilifeform;people still cite the german cold weather experiment data. 743147;1404443601;mircea_popescu;wasn't run by mengele. 743148;1404443606;asciilifeform;they usually pinch their nose in an obligatory gesture of kowtow to taboo, but they cite. 743149;1404443625;asciilifeform;wasn't run by mengele >> true. but somehow he became 'poster boy' 743150;1404443631;mircea_popescu;the dood was too busy doing fucktarded shit like random foreign body implants 743151;1404443635;mircea_popescu;wel let 743152;1404443641;asciilifeform;much as karpeles didn't personally handle every btc derpatron 743153;1404443641;mircea_popescu;s not go by the posters. 743154;1404443645;asciilifeform;but remains an emblem 743155;1404443681;mircea_popescu;of mtgox tho., which he did run. 743156;1404443686;mircea_popescu;not of say intersangro 743157;1404443700;asciilifeform;but of btc-themed derpitude as a field, no ? 743158;1404443710;mircea_popescu;nah 743159;1404443718;mircea_popescu;taaki. 743160;1404443823;BingoBoingo; many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system) << Similar area, Ultra Geriatrics. How long can a nonegenarian fight a fungal UTI withou amphoterrible B? This happens prolly hundereds to thousands of times a year. If only people collated results. 743161;1404443863;asciilifeform;you get figures like mengele (or a considerably more destructive, though lesser known, trofim lysenko) when barriers around some field are demolished en masse and field is thrown to the mercy of cranks (say, by revolution) 743162;1404443885;asciilifeform;sometimes you get clever folks who finally get to 'do their thing' 743163;1404443910;asciilifeform;more often you get lysenko, lepeshinskaya (exercise for the reader: who was she? why) and a thousand similar creatures 743164;1404443995;asciilifeform;to continue the 'medical' theme - it's rather like an immunodeficient collapse of organism 743165;1404444013;asciilifeform;suddenly fungi grow in places where no one has even conceived of before 743166;1404444051;BingoBoingo;In the immunodefficient fungi are often a greater threat than bacteria 743167;1404444081;asciilifeform;referring here to the appearance of powerful cranks 743168;1404444101;BingoBoingo;Oh I'm just throwing out noise 743169;1404444110;BingoBoingo;Trying to summon vexual 743170;1404444115;asciilifeform;https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/CRNKRULE.HTM 743171;1404444116;assbot;When the Cranks Rule 743172;1404444120;asciilifeform;^ prof. dutch on the subject 743173;1404444139;BingoBoingo;Maybe vexual in ninjaspamzor may be aimed at each other some day 743174;1404444145;asciilifeform;(same fellow who wrote 'why does anti-intellectualism exist') 743175;1404444169;asciilifeform;^ with the planar symmetry groups. 743176;1404444252;asciilifeform;incidentally, (as school project!) i once went to the u.s. national library of medicine and had them dig up for me ancient, yellow copies of lysenko's complete works. and read them. 743177;1404444267;asciilifeform;reads just like modern pheminist etc. crapola. 743178;1404444272;asciilifeform;shannonizer output. 743179;1404444318;asciilifeform;(evidently when these people had staff 'sovietologists' they dutifully preserved everything. even this used toilet paper.) 743180;1404444344;asciilifeform;i still have the xeroxes. epic garbage. 743181;1404444366;BingoBoingo;Oh, the things I xerox'd as an undergrad. 743182;1404444428;BingoBoingo;Well, not xerox'd the copy machines charged. The printers didn't so... sheetfed scanner to giant tiff, portable hdd to computer lab 743183;1404444456;asciilifeform;tiff << lol! '90s macs!? 743184;1404444456;BingoBoingo;http://www.wired.com/2014/07/rising-use-of-encryption-foiled-the-cops-a-record-9-times-in-2013/ 743185;1404444456;assbot;Rising Use of Encryption Foiled the Cops a Record 9 Times in 2013 | Threat Level | WIRED 743186;1404444481;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: No, windows 2k was what the library computers with the scanners ran 743187;1404444570;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: my local uni library has finally surrendered and installed a proper - free of charge - book scanner 743188;1404444573;BingoBoingo;Took ~2 years for the school to discover this exploit in the systen 743189;1404444578;asciilifeform;because everybody owns a spy camera anyway 743190;1404444587;asciilifeform;no more need for 'minox' 743191;1404444590;BingoBoingo;lol 743192;1404444638;asciilifeform;(a 'book scanner' has a v-shaped cavity, rather than flat glass) 743193;1404444676;BingoBoingo;I've went to library school and never seen a proper one. 743194;1404444767;asciilifeform;they used to be fairly expensive 743195;1404444782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 71 @ 0.0141 = 1.0011 BTC [-] 743196;1404444804;asciilifeform;generally found in places where no one counts the money, and everyone pisses on copyrasty laws - e.g. military labs. 743197;1404444859;BingoBoingo;With my limited exposure to computing before college (Mac OS 6&7, Dos 3.3, Windows 3.1) The first year or so I thought print to Tiff was a neat workaround.... 743198;1404444884;asciilifeform;'$workaround is free if your time is worth nothing' 743199;1404444909;BingoBoingo;EBSCO, JSTOR, and ProjectMuse at the time were the prefered sources for things to fill the binders. 743200;1404444941;BingoBoingo;Cleansing papers maybe one binder has survived the purges. 743201;1404444978;BingoBoingo;At some point I discovered print to .dvi and .ps saved so much 743202;1404445026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000817 = 6.0458 BTC [-] 743203;1404445133;BingoBoingo;It was a real come to jesus moment when I realized disk is cheaper than shelves 743204;1404445151;asciilifeform;Encryption Foiled the Cops << example of hierarchy of power in action. the local doughnut eaters don't get access to the manufacturer backdoor. unless it suits the crown for one reason or another. 743205;1404445160;asciilifeform;just as they don't get aircraft carriers 743206;1404445211;asciilifeform;or (until quite recently) - encrypted radios 743207;1404445273;asciilifeform;being as the local stuffed uniforms are the first to 'go free agent' in any imperial collapse, this is sorta basic. 743208;1404445339;BingoBoingo;Every now and then "people have problems" which seem to reinforce agency heirarchy 743209;1404445355;BingoBoingo;;;google Molly Young lawsuit Illinois 743210;1404445356;gribble;Wrongful death lawsuit filed in Molly Young case - KFVS: ; Molly Young's father files wrongful death lawsuit against Minton ...: ; Are We There Yet? (TV Series 2010– ) - IMDb: ; Are We There Yet? (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 743230;1404446186;BingoBoingo;%t 743231;1404446187;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 272 Last Price: 270 24h-Vol: 131k High: 270 Low: 200 VWAP: 246 743232;1404446928;BingoBoingo;!up GunPlay 743233;1404448764;BingoBoingo;OMG revisionism!!! http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/03/scholar_says_transcript_of_the_declaration_of_independence_has_an_error.html 743234;1404448764;assbot;Scholar says transcript of the Declaration of Independence has an error. 743235;1404448869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00082337 = 8.0279 BTC [+] 743236;1404449174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00082313 = 4.0333 BTC [-] 743237;1404451029;mircea_popescu;!up nam-shub 743238;1404451187;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00082313 = 6.7085 BTC [-] 743239;1404451375;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lepeshinskaya was the ballerina ? or was she the educational expert ? 743240;1404451414;BingoBoingo;Doge Drama! Doge Drama! http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/leaked-video-moolah-ceo-threatens-legal-action-dogecoin-creator/2014/07/04 743241;1404451414;assbot;Leaked Video of Moolah CEO Causes Legal Controversy » CryptoCoinsNews 743242;1404451555;mircea_popescu;so anyone keeping a list of ips used by nsa&friends for ops ? 743243;1404451809;BingoBoingo;I'm not really 743244;1404451836;BingoBoingo;I assume they can use pretty much Windows or android machine as the equivalent of a tor node anyways 743245;1404452187;mircea_popescu; reads just like modern pheminist etc. crapola. << i had this convo with girl earlier. sophism is sophism, seen it all before. 743246;1404452353;mircea_popescu; being as the local stuffed uniforms are the first to 'go free agent' in any imperial collapse, this is sorta basic. << quite 743247;1404452609;mircea_popescu;For the first time in human history, there now exists a situation in which the disciplined thinking techniques, and precision-observing techniques of modern science will be applied in a positive sense to the problem of a subjective phenomenon. "Positive" in that the research men will be commanded, ordered, and damn well required to stop using their talents to prove it isn't so, because their theories hold it impossible 743248;1404452609;mircea_popescu;, and find out why it is so, because it works. Those scientists who are personally psychologically so oriented that they simply can't accept that notion will be simply brushed aside, and men who can and will see what's happening on their own campuses, and will sincerely try to understand this new order of phenomenon will be installed. 743249;1404452624;mircea_popescu;o look at that, before global warming they had "drowsing works". who knew. 743250;1404452777;BingoBoingo;OMG it is like a reverse-(Karl Popper) 743251;1404452827;mircea_popescu;the antipopper 743252;1404452941;mircea_popescu;"The Church of Scientology, an outgrowth of L. Ron Hubbard's dianetics cult of the Fifties, became one of the most controversial of American religious cults. When, in 1977, Federal agents raided the cult's offices because, among other things, the cult had infiltrated Federal agencies and stolen Government documents related to investigations of the cult, public reaction was amusement as much as anything else." 743253;1404452959;mircea_popescu;it's still good for a lol. 743254;1404453261;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9346 @ 0.00082344 = 7.6959 BTC [+] {2} 743255;1404453749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.016501 = 0.5445 BTC [-] 743256;1404454111;BingoBoingo;%ob 743257;1404454113;atcbot;18k@310 19k@272 68@271 | 9k@226 250k@225 50k@224 743258;1404454273;BingoBoingo;%d 743259;1404454274;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 1078968.81 in 1937 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 37.42 743260;1404454857;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 743261;1404454858;gribble;Current Blocks: 309124 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1339 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16080546463.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.38753 743262;1404454871;BingoBoingo;Looks like next change won't be negative 743263;1404455945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2477 @ 0.00082313 = 2.0389 BTC [-] 743264;1404456555;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00082442 = 29.6791 BTC [+] {3} 743265;1404456980;penguirker;New blog post: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/nubbins-you-little-legend 743266;1404457317;fluffypony;;;later tell nubbins http://blog.spagni.net/posts/nubbins-you-little-legend 743267;1404457318;assbot;Nubbins, you little legend! 743268;1404457318;gribble;The operation succeeded. 743269;1404457758;BingoBoingo;Ugh, white africans are the worst 743270;1404457800;fluffypony;LOL! 743271;1404457923;BingoBoingo;Case in point, Mark Shuttleworth 743272;1404457987;fluffypony;yeah he's a bit of a chop 743273;1404457993;fluffypony;but the guys that invented EC2 are cool 743274;1404458015;fluffypony;and I like Elon Musk very much 743275;1404458020;BingoBoingo;EC2 might be the only thing worse than Nigbuntu 743276;1404458024;fluffypony;although I don't like his complete loss of a South African accent 743277;1404458031;fluffypony;and his semi-American-but-not-quite accent he's adopted 743278;1404458064;BingoBoingo;Fluffy he makes me wish Rhodesia wasn't a country 743279;1404458101;fluffypony;hah hah 743280;1404458111;fluffypony;my mom was born in Rhodesia when it was still called Rhodesia 743281;1404458294;BingoBoingo;I mean the Amerigo's colonies produce some shit white people, but Africa... 743282;1404458465;BingoBoingo;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA 743283;1404458465;assbot;Johnny Cash-The_Man_Comes_Around - YouTube 743284;1404458751;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00082503 = 14.7268 BTC [+] {2} 743285;1404459193;BingoBoingo;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8rR7E6NfY4&feature=kp 743286;1404459193;assbot;Gordon Lightfoot Sundown - YouTube 743287;1404459361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14616 @ 0.00082672 = 12.0833 BTC [+] {2} 743288;1404460423;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 743289;1404460425;gribble;Current Blocks: 309128 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1335 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15968194694.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.05556 743290;1404460493;mircea_popescu;fluffypony nice shirt. 743291;1404460504;BingoBoingo;Last two youtube links dedicated to the mystery lifebomer unkilling all of my beautiful death 743292;1404460512;mircea_popescu;"no privilege shirt, no service" 743293;1404460535;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: Yeah came out really nicely, v. impressed 743294;1404460557;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654424.0 743295;1404460557;assbot;[AUCTION] BFL 65nm ASIC minirig - First ever delivered 743296;1404460570;BingoBoingo;Look who is selling! 743297;1404460647;mircea_popescu;lmao scammer be scammer to the end. 743298;1404460662;mircea_popescu;auctioning shit for .5 btc, selling for 1 btc pm bid ? really ? 743299;1404460916;BingoBoingo;Well, if Garr could do it 743300;1404460976;BingoBoingo;Some one may have lulz arriving in their inbox... 743301;1404460984;BingoBoingo;I will not confirm or deny 743302;1404461283;BingoBoingo;5D 743303;1404461288;BingoBoingo;%D 743304;1404461290;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 810773.42 in 1931 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 3.26 743305;1404461553;BingoBoingo;;;later tell ninjashogun http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=191 743306;1404461553;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 743307;1404461554;gribble;The operation succeeded. 743308;1404461640;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo still, it's satisfying to see the guy reduced to peddling bitcents. 743309;1404461680;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: it is indeed if... the courts don't seem to want your bet to come true 743310;1404461693;BingoBoingo;US courts still need to catch up to bitbet courts 743311;1404461763;mircea_popescu;slowness. 743312;1404461861;BingoBoingo;Sundown, you better take care. If I find you been creeping round my back stairs. 743313;1404462045;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14660 @ 0.00082313 = 12.0671 BTC [-] 743314;1404462228;davout;god morneng -assets 743315;1404462245;BingoBoingo;Fuck you davout We do Dog morning here. 743316;1404462285;davout;where is your dog now 743317;1404462314;BingoBoingo;Krauts are going to put on Belgium like a condom and take your team down like they did... well... you know 743318;1404462328;BingoBoingo;davout: My dog is safely in the ghetto where he belongs 743319;1404462337;davout;also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ozy_cufk8 743320;1404462337;assbot;I am your new God - YouTube 743321;1404462360;davout;ah wrong video 743322;1404462382;BingoBoingo;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4 743323;1404462383;assbot;IRON BUTTERFLY - IN A GADDA DA VIDA - 1968 (ORIGINAL FULL VERSION) CD SOUND & 3D VIDEO - YouTube 743324;1404462529;davout;the drummer is amazing 743325;1404462529;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 743326;1404462564;xmj;i wonder if i can trick assbot 743327;1404462568;xmj;her ass is amazing 743328;1404462568;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 743329;1404462573;xmj;oh, boring. 743330;1404462594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0143 = 0.715 BTC [+] 743331;1404462823;davout;;;later tell kakobrekla "hide bots" in the logs doesn't make atcbot go away 743332;1404462823;gribble;The operation succeeded. 743333;1404462870;davout;;;later tell kakobrekla disregard that i suck cock 743334;1404462870;gribble;The operation succeeded. 743335;1404462930;jurov;http://i.imgur.com/lHZKDFK.jpg 743336;1404463049;jurov;^story of kakobrekla and bitcointalk 743337;1404463064;davout;short story indeed 743338;1404463132;mircea_popescu;jurov i find it really funny how he just can't resist arguing with idiots 743339;1404463167;pankkake;:( 743340;1404463210;davout;mircea_popescu: it's a skill 743341;1404463221;mircea_popescu;like bulimia ? 743342;1404463232;davout;no, self-control 743343;1404463257;davout;don't eat this candy bar, resist the urge to waste time arguing with dotcoin, same skill really :) 743344;1404463303;mircea_popescu;o o i see. 743345;1404463360;mircea_popescu;"Ponta: I will likely announce my intention to run for president on August 1" 743346;1404463376;mircea_popescu;romanian politicians are mentally defective. YOU JUST ANNOUNCED IT DERP! 743347;1404463393;jurov;will he be IPOing it? 743348;1404463431;davout;can you pre-vote ? 743349;1404463434;mircea_popescu;this guy is probably the most amusing pietilla in all of yurp. 743350;1404463457;pankkake;it does it the apple way; announce an annoucment, gets twice the coverage 743351;1404463480;mircea_popescu;example : romania is, sorta like france, a presidentialish republic. it's quite clear that the president does foreign affairs. at some point in a conflict with the president, this guy showed up at a eu summit. 743352;1404463498;mircea_popescu;uninvited, like. those people literally didn't know what to do for like an hour. 743353;1404463515;mircea_popescu;when it became clear that he won't be allowed inside the building, he left. 743354;1404463529;mircea_popescu;when questioned in the senate a week later, he claimed that he went to bruxelles to do some shopping. 743355;1404463695;davout;mircea_popescu: you don't get anything if you don't try! 743356;1404463736;davout;we have a saying that applies perfectly: "sur un malentendu tu peux toujours conclure" 743357;1404463750;mircea_popescu;yeah, basically, he runs on MS-Busker 3.1. 743358;1404463759;BingoBoingo;%ob 743359;1404463760;atcbot;18k@310 19k@272 68@271 | 9k@226 250k@225 50k@224 743360;1404463773;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: isn't it like crack of dawn where you are? 743361;1404463775;davout;which roughly translates to: "you may end up fucking her on a misunderstanding" 743362;1404463786;mircea_popescu;fluffypony prety much 743363;1404463805;mircea_popescu;davout "you can close just as well on a misunderstanding " 743364;1404463813;davout;yo 743365;1404463817;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: GIve it an hour 743366;1404463856;davout;does "close" convey the same sexual meaning? 743367;1404463878;pankkake;;;ud close 743368;1404463879;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=close | to knock boots with a member of the oposite sex, as in close the deal. 743369;1404463887;pankkake;;;ud closing 743370;1404463888;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Closing | Nov 14, 2012 ... Closing. The act of "doing the deed". To close is the have sexual intercourse with someone. Particularly used in regards to a girl who is hard to ... 743371;1404463893;mircea_popescu;it's pretty much the exact equivalent. conclure may mean a cunt or a life policy. 743372;1404463901;davout;nice-u 743373;1404463986;fluffypony;hah hah 743374;1404463989;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/xbNnEM3.jpg - dictator 743375;1404463997;fluffypony;nice one, reddit 743376;1404464064;BingoBoingo;;;bait 743377;1404464064;gribble;Error: "bait" is not a valid command. 743378;1404464067;BingoBoingo;!bait 743379;1404464081;BingoBoingo;!mpif 743380;1404464082;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021734 BTC (Total: 475.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 743381;1404464119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4993 @ 0.00082631 = 4.1258 BTC [+] 743382;1404464342;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676302.0 743383;1404464342;assbot;HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE 743384;1404464455;pankkake;fail to see how his address in Cyprus is going to help anything 743385;1404464616;BingoBoingo;Maybe someone introduces him to 'bubbling; 743386;1404464684;pankkake;;;ud bubbling 743387;1404464685;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bubbling | Bubbling. A photo editing technique which uses clever positioning of transparent circles in an opaque color layer to trick the mind into thinking a person in a ... 743388;1404464691;fluffypony;yeah, poopsenders don't even deliver to Cyprus 743389;1404464692;fluffypony;unfortunately 743390;1404464707;pankkake;oh, I remember bubbling 743391;1404464721;BingoBoingo;;;google bubbling "pissing in their own mouth" 743392;1404464722;gribble;'Bubbling' Is the New Teen Trend That Will Make You Gag - Jezebel: ; People Are Imitating Todd “Bubbling” Carney And Pissing In Their ...: ; Everyone Needs To Stop Trying To Make (1 more message) 743393;1404464739;pankkake;fluffypony: poopsenders are the number one reason I hide my identity :p 743394;1404464754;pankkake;not that I would be the the one receiving the poop anyway… 743395;1404464765;fluffypony;lol 743396;1404464806;BingoBoingo;I'm sleep. Everyone who keeps trying to unkill my beautiful death with their life bombs can eat it, as they continue to hurt their cause. 743397;1404464989;mircea_popescu;wait. 743398;1404464994;mircea_popescu;that jezebel thing, ALSO gawker ? 743399;1404465012;mircea_popescu;dude just how much crap can these people put out ? 743400;1404465164;fluffypony;yeah Jezebel is horrible 743401;1404465168;fluffypony;the only gawker site I still occasionally browse is Jalopnik 743402;1404465189;fluffypony;and only because a friend of mine, Seagram Pearce, often has his photos on there 743403;1404465327;mircea_popescu;what's that one ? 743404;1404465369;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: cars 743405;1404465372;mircea_popescu;anyway, they got everything don't they ? gawker is basically hot topic of internet crapola. jezbel aka let's try and commercialise feminism, 743406;1404465381;fluffypony;http://jalopnik.com/the-sea-the-sky-the-aston-martin-v8-vantage-818009094 743407;1404465382;assbot;The Sea, The Sky, The Aston Martin V8 Vantage 743408;1404465385;mircea_popescu;shit. next words out of my mouth were "do they have a car one" 743409;1404465389;mircea_popescu;how about working out ? 743410;1404465390;fluffypony;lol 743411;1404465420;fluffypony;no clue 743412;1404465432;fluffypony;their "empire" has become worse than HuffPo 743413;1404465442;fluffypony;if that were at all possible 743414;1404465533;mircea_popescu;wait they';re different ? 743415;1404465603;fluffypony;yes 743416;1404465618;mircea_popescu;different, how. 743417;1404465636;mircea_popescu;don't tell me they're burning the venture capital of rival, competing venture firms. 743418;1404465835;fluffypony;I mean they're physically different companies 743419;1404465848;pankkake;but part of the same conspiracy! 743420;1404465861;fluffypony;they have fun shit like this: 743421;1404465861;fluffypony;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabrielle-canon/dear-gawker-thanks-for-pr_b_3624887.html 743422;1404465861;assbot;Gawker Must Not Know What Journalism Is: A Different Take on the Role of J-schools | Gabrielle Canon 743423;1404465864;mircea_popescu;in what sense are they different 743424;1404465873;mircea_popescu;o, they attack each other ? 743425;1404465877;fluffypony;yes 743426;1404465879;fluffypony;like kids on a playground 743427;1404465882;fluffypony;that the adults ignore 743428;1404465900;mircea_popescu;so the two 17yo blondies vying for homecoming queen are different girls ? 743429;1404465907;mircea_popescu;maybe im old, but seems a tenuous argument. 743430;1404465944;mircea_popescu;(they both employ freelance journalists. THE SAME freelance journalists) 743431;1404465966;mircea_popescu;"Gawker staff writer Hamilton Nolan loves to rant. I can't say I ever particularly noticed Nolan, or that his opinionated posts stand out from the rest of the sensationalized content Gawker churns out each day" 743432;1404465966;fluffypony;yet each view each other as competition and think they stand on the moral high ground 743433;1404465980;mircea_popescu;ahaha check it out, canon imagines herself in a position to review nolan. 743434;1404465996;mircea_popescu;the names are picked with an eye to livresqueness. 743435;1404466087;fluffypony;lol 743436;1404466094;mircea_popescu;"Journalism is a public good, essential to the health of democracy and the growth of society." "I was awarded a partial scholarship but still incurred over $30,000 in debt that will likely follow me far into the future." 743437;1404466106;mircea_popescu;ah how delicious. 743438;1404466131;fluffypony;the only media group I particularly like atm is Anticlown 743439;1404466138;mircea_popescu;woman basically copy/pasted three different things together. 743440;1404466196;chetty;http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5735 743441;1404466197;assbot;University offers female students extra credit for not shaving their armpits 743442;1404466227;mircea_popescu;ahahahah 743443;1404466235;mircea_popescu;but not male students, right ? 743444;1404466245;mircea_popescu;are they getting sued ? 743445;1404466254;chetty;males get credit for shaving, neck down 743446;1404466285;mircea_popescu;soooo... are they getting sued ? 743447;1404466305;fluffypony;http://www.thesuperficial.com/lindsay-lohan-legs-scratched-bruised-like-that-of-a-hooker-07-2014 743448;1404466306;assbot;Lindsay Lohan’s Legs Look Like This Because of Biking, You Guys, She Was Biking - The Superficial - Because You're Ugly 743449;1404466308;fluffypony;lol 743450;1404466315;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00082654 = 7.0256 BTC [+] {2} 743451;1404466315;pankkake;Men are also allowed to receive extra credit, as long as they shave their bodies from the neck down. 743452;1404466397;pankkake;it would probably take a week to shave me 743453;1404466441;fluffypony;lol 743454;1404466454;mircea_popescu;how do they know how hooker legs look anyway ? 743455;1404466455;fluffypony;well there was that study that found that hirsute males are more intelligent 743456;1404466456;fluffypony;so that's good 743457;1404466467;mircea_popescu;i never noticed hooker legs being a thing. 743458;1404466549;mircea_popescu;im kinda looking forward to the day all males under 30 are in cock cages in the us. 743459;1404466560;mircea_popescu;i'll prolly visit just to piss on the general public. 743460;1404466603;mircea_popescu;o they don't mean hooker, they mean meth. 743461;1404466611;mircea_popescu;i guess they're not allowed to say meth ? 743462;1404466704;fluffypony;yeah 743463;1404466817;mircea_popescu;anyway, i don't think i am currently ranking any media outlet above zero. 743464;1404466844;mircea_popescu;sorta like reading hustler twenty years ago. 743465;1404466921;mircea_popescu;"If you'd like to advertise on one of our sites you can check out our advertising info." which they helpfuly omit to include, either as a link or anywhere on the page. 743466;1404466924;mircea_popescu;derps. 743467;1404466937;chetty;all media has turned into 'boy eats foot' (what people used to call things like Enquirer) 743468;1404466942;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/3-3-things/ 743469;1404466956;mircea_popescu;linked twitter acct, "The best publisher of things ever in the history of the Universe.", abandoned since last year. 743470;1404467033;mircea_popescu;facebook page even better, abandoned since 2012. 743471;1404467081;mircea_popescu;i dun think this counts as a media group, fluffypony 743472;1404467120;fluffypony;I read Geekologie and I Watch Stuff 743473;1404467146;fluffypony;not really interested enough in celebrities to read The Superficial 743474;1404467153;mircea_popescu;there probably ~should~ be a media empire, 743475;1404467158;mircea_popescu;but princessnell is lazy 743476;1404467164;fluffypony;all 3 are linked at the bottom of the Anticlown site 743477;1404467332;mircea_popescu;lol 743478;1404467355;davout;was there already a service for corporations designed to facilitate wage payment in BTC? 743479;1404467367;davout;i think i heard about sthg like this already 743480;1404467442;mircea_popescu;fucking inept this guy, sitting in his livingroom on kerepesi utca, derping around. 743481;1404467649;fluffypony;good article (the bit towards the end, really) - http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201407#01 743482;1404467649;assbot;apenwarr 743483;1404467672;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: kerepesi utca? 743484;1404467684;mircea_popescu;userguy243/ninjashogun 743485;1404467850;mircea_popescu;"and we all want to feel good about ourselves." da fuck. no we don't all give a shit. 743486;1404468074;mircea_popescu;anyway, a good idea in there (specifically, that complacency kills) buried under so much bad phrasing (like the we above) and outright ignorant idiocy (like the "logic works" debate) that i'd just send the author back to 7th grade with a very welted butt 743487;1404468090;mircea_popescu;were he blessed enough to be my slave, which he isn't & won't be. 743488;1404468192;fluffypony;I liked his point on programmer logic, though - I've dealt all too often with devs who have this complete close-minded, ivory tower complex 743489;1404468217;fluffypony;which comes from years of not being told that they're not wrong, but their idea is fucking awful 743490;1404468265;mircea_popescu;or maybe from having been told this by the wrong people. 743491;1404468329;mircea_popescu;guy a tells girl she has a fat ass, she goes on a diet and gets a gym pass. guys b through z tell girl she has a fat ass, she buys femfandom today and writes angry blogposts about the sexist guys b through z. 743492;1404468380;mircea_popescu;"Eventually all the old phones will be shut down and we can switch entirely to the new system." 743493;1404468389;mircea_popescu;AHAHAHAHAhahahahaha ok that's the funniest thing i read all week. 743494;1404468398;mircea_popescu;you got a point lol. total closeminded fucktardery. 743495;1404468923;punkman;http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/03/world/middleeast/syria-iraq-isis-rogue-state-along-two-rivers.html 743496;1404468926;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 743497;1404469136;ThickAsThieves;http://www.eba.europa.eu/-/eba-proposes-potential-regulatory-regime-for-virtual-currencies-but-also-advises-that-financial-institutions-should-not-buy-hold-or-sell-them-whilst-n 743498;1404469136;assbot;EBA proposes potential regulatory regime for virtual currencies, but also advises that financial institutions should not buy, hold or sell them whilst no such regime is in place - View press release - European Banking Authority 743499;1404469176;ThickAsThieves;after put thru the Bloomberg filter: EU Banks Must Shun Bitcoin Until Rules in Place, EBA Says 743500;1404469310;kyuupichan;"should not buy, hold or sell them" Um, impossible to fulfil if already holding.... 743501;1404469369;kyuupichan;EBA apparently doesn't realize BTC has its own regulatory regime and what they think is irrelevant 743502;1404469386;chetty; "should not buy, hold or sell them" Um, impossible to fulfil if already holding....// nthey could destroy,lose the keys 743503;1404469436;kyuupichan;Suits me just fine, I thank them for their contribution 743504;1404469487;kyuupichan;"and the financial viability of some market participants remains uncertain" 743505;1404469488;pankkake;;;bc,stats 743506;1404469491;gribble;Current Blocks: 309147 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1316 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16073422604.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.42989 743507;1404469491;kyuupichan;What, the banks? 743508;1404469596;kyuupichan;"the creation of scheme governing authorities' accountable for the integrity of a particular virtual currency scheme and its key components, including its protocol and transaction ledger." 743509;1404469617;kyuupichan;!?! Good luck with that. Unless they mean the existing mining network. 743510;1404469805;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan eu bureaucrats. 743511;1404469854;ThickAsThieves;if we control everything, everything will be okay 743512;1404469876;mircea_popescu;anyway, the eu finds itself in exactly the same position the us finds itself, except a little more clueless, a little more baselessly vanitous and a little later to the party. 743513;1404470034;pankkake;as usual 743514;1404470049;mircea_popescu;pretty much yeah 743515;1404470056;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 743516;1404470057;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 625.75, Best ask: 626.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 626.0, 24 hour volume: 8661.38903698, 24 hour low: 619.79, 24 hour high: 652.79, 24 hour vwap: 641.286154709 743517;1404470254;mircea_popescu;i really can't believe i got exaclty 1 respondent to the tits post. 743518;1404470284;ThickAsThieves;your game is slippin 743519;1404470320;mircea_popescu;wait, MY game ? 743520;1404470328;ThickAsThieves;that's what happens when you try to be a feminist 743521;1404470369;pankkake;camwhores don't read trilema, surprising? 743522;1404470394;mircea_popescu;pankkake i think it was on reddit and everything. 743523;1404470479;pankkake;well yes I put it there. didn't see much traffic either 743524;1404470502;mircea_popescu;i guess they don't read reddit either huh. 743525;1404470564;ThickAsThieves;maybe andreas is available for evangelist consulting, or there's always the mastercoin guy 743526;1404470604;mircea_popescu;maybe i should put it on fiverr lmao. 743527;1404470609;ThickAsThieves;isnt it the mastercoin guy or one of those guys who's a former pickup artist? 743528;1404470645;ThickAsThieves;http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/famous-pickup-artist-is-now-a-bitcoin-expert 743529;1404470646;assbot;Famous Pickup Artist Is Now A Bitcoin Expert 743530;1404470655;ThickAsThieves;Chris Odom 743531;1404470668;ThickAsThieves;he's the OT guy 743532;1404470669;ThickAsThieves;my bad 743533;1404470696;kyuupichan;Wonder what the eu bureaucrats are gonna do when they're out of a job 743534;1404470706;kyuupichan;Show titties to MP perhaps. 743535;1404470709;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/ << actually it's like #2 743536;1404470710;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 743537;1404470715;mircea_popescu;but yeah, zero traffic there huh 743538;1404470740;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan consider this simple point, that allegedly there's famine in this world 743539;1404470747;mircea_popescu;meanwhile 0.1 btc buys a boatload of rice. 743540;1404470787;ThickAsThieves;people in famine got no interwebs 743541;1404470825;mircea_popescu;but tbh, there's another thing that puzzles me. i imagined prolly tons of people that watch the logs also visit camsites, and dropping that link'd be pretty great way to tip the girl without having to pay. 743542;1404470834;kyuupichan;Stamp trading 2.5% below bitfinex, which is unusual 743543;1404470839;ThickAsThieves;bill gates is workin on shit, youll have post-famine boobies soon enough 743544;1404470841;pankkake;I submitted to the bigger /r/girlsgonebitcoin but it was ignored 743545;1404470845;mircea_popescu;considering what people normaly do for a 2 dollar freebie... i'd have thought it'd spread as fire 743546;1404470855;mircea_popescu;i guess im fundamentally misunderstanding something. 743547;1404470919;mircea_popescu;i guess it's the fear of the unknown i'm misrepresenting. people WILL grind online poker for about 50 cents an hour. but that's their routine, and so easy. 743548;1404470964;chetty;venture into the unknown - people dont do that much 743549;1404471032;mircea_popescu;pankkake i don't even see it. prolly mod deleted it ? 743550;1404471064;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/299ee9/opportunity_to_get_01btc_for_your_tits_on_irc/ 743551;1404471064;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 743552;1404471092;ThickAsThieves;maybe they just wanna make money by mistake too 743553;1404471100;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/ < < but not on the list. 743554;1404471101;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 743555;1404471187;mircea_popescu;http://www.metartnetwork.com/bitcoin/ << btw metart does bitcoin now 743556;1404471187;assbot;Bitcoin Payment Options: MetArt Network 743557;1404471237;ThickAsThieves;nice 743558;1404471311;ThickAsThieves;this guy got his coins back http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/273vi2/if_you_just_received_800_bitcoin_out_of_the_blue 743559;1404471312;assbot;If you just received 800 Bitcoin out of the blue, it was from me : Bitcoin 743560;1404471325;ThickAsThieves;he's lucky he sent them to lawyers 743561;1404471393;mircea_popescu;!up haos 743562;1404471805;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00083003 = 14.3595 BTC [+] 743563;1404472170;chetty;making money is crass 743564;1404472194;chetty;got to do stuff for a cause 743565;1404472781;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00083014 = 12.7011 BTC [+] {3} 743566;1404473076;mircea_popescu;meh. 743567;1404473407;ThickAsThieves;http://retroshare.sourceforge.net 743568;1404473407;assbot;RetroShare 743569;1404473513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00083016 = 2.1028 BTC [+] 743570;1404473880;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00082943 = 0.8883 BTC [-] 743571;1404473968;mircea_popescu;!up fulloffantasies 743572;1404473973;mircea_popescu;hey there fulloffantasies 743573;1404473983;fulloffantasies;hello 743574;1404473993;mircea_popescu;what brings you here ? 743575;1404474017;fulloffantasies;bitcoins and showing off my tits 743576;1404474024;fulloffantasies;how do I do this? 743577;1404474031;pankkake;yay! 743578;1404474032;mircea_popescu;o hey. i was jus tbitching about it. 743579;1404474040;mircea_popescu;so first, link to some of your older material ? what you got ? 743580;1404474058;fulloffantasies;http://www.reddit.com/user/fulloffantasies/submitted/ 743581;1404474059;assbot;submitted by fulloffantasies 743582;1404474133;mircea_popescu;aite. write b8583084 on your tits, take a picture. get your face in there. 743583;1404474149;fulloffantasies;No where was it mentioned I had to show my face 743584;1404474155;mircea_popescu;o you don't do that ? 743585;1404474164;fulloffantasies;it says the identification only needed me to write a sentence on my chest 743586;1404474166;fulloffantasies;no, I don't. 743587;1404474172;fulloffantasies;it's not fun for me to be identified :/ 743588;1404474178;mircea_popescu;i see 743589;1404474201;mircea_popescu;what you got distinctive ? that's not actually identifying you 743590;1404474237;fulloffantasies;well if I write a sentence on my chest and post it, and you give me the sentence now you can look at my pics and compare my body 743591;1404474238;pankkake;come on, it's not like you're being farmed for coins yet 743592;1404474250;mircea_popescu;aite, go for it. 743593;1404474283;mircea_popescu;pankkake you always side with the working man dontcha 743594;1404474308;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies b8583084 on your tits, get enough of yourself in there so you won't be reused later. 743595;1404474401;mircea_popescu;as a purely academic point, wouldn't http://i.imgur.com/6viKheJ.jpg be enough to identify someone ? at least to anyone that knows them any. 743596;1404474409;pankkake;1346 ninjashogun> wtf is wrong with this channel. it's misogynistic and 743597;1404474412;pankkake;incredibly wrong - people aren't a piece of meat. Fueling 743598;1404474415;pankkake;the idle power trip of a guy who thinks access to money makes 743599;1404474418;pankkake;him some kind of god among men is ridic. Mircau behaves like 743600;1404474421;pankkake;Borat, if Borat happened to realize he can get bitcoins juts 743601;1404474424;pankkake;by promising more. 743602;1404474427;pankkake;I like the comparison to Borat 743603;1404474442;mircea_popescu;i like that he's still not got my name. 743604;1404474460;pankkake;it's an original, usually Mirceau 743605;1404474503;mircea_popescu;well maybe he misspelled in anger 743606;1404474514;pankkake;no, he did it earlier 743607;1404474551;fulloffantasies;http://i.imgur.com/Y6fCvB5.jpg 743608;1404474554;fulloffantasies;there you go 743609;1404474588;mircea_popescu;nice tits. your address ? 743610;1404474619;fulloffantasies;thank you! it's 16MVEdL9Vtyi3cQ9YcdaLu9MSyAniaBaY8 743611;1404474621;pankkake;also how did you find out about the thing? 743612;1404474635;fulloffantasies;i posted in r/girlsgonebitcoin and someone sent me a message 743613;1404474643;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies aite. so tell other girls, and also : stick around here. ima prolly have more jobs in the future. 743614;1404474754;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 743615;1404474758;mircea_popescu;!up Padstomper 743616;1404474758;gribble;Time since last block: 5 minutes and 51 seconds 743617;1404474776;mircea_popescu;Padstomper what brings you here ? 743618;1404474777;fulloffantasies;holy shit 743619;1404474781;Padstomper;Hey. A friend of mine got a message about this channel, so I'm just checking it out 743620;1404474783;fulloffantasies;it worked. thank you! 743621;1404474792;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies lol you seem surprised. 743622;1404474799;Padstomper;Seems like you have quite a few people here. That's neat 743623;1404474811;fulloffantasies;some one offered me a whole .1 bitcoin to see my tits? 743624;1404474818;fulloffantasies;of course I was skeptical 743625;1404474825;mircea_popescu;lol. how did you find bitcoin anyway ? 743626;1404474850;fulloffantasies;got sick of getting paid in amazon gift cards 743627;1404474857;fulloffantasies;looked into other options 743628;1404474861;mircea_popescu;ok, here's something that you'll love then : 743629;1404474867;mircea_popescu;;;google mpoe-pr stripperweb 743630;1404474868;gribble;News Flash: Some Sex Workers Like Some Of Their Customers ...: ; MYIP网站地图325 - 站长工具，域名注册信息，搜索引擎收录，Alexa ...: 743631;1404474875;mircea_popescu;hm. google you pos. 743632;1404474897;mircea_popescu;https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800.html there. 743633;1404474898;assbot;Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community 743634;1404474957;fulloffantasies;we really do 743635;1404474959;fulloffantasies;lol 743636;1404475019;mircea_popescu;lol. not that one, the stripperweb one. 743637;1404475148;assbot;ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -3 743638;1404475161;mircea_popescu;foreal 743639;1404475329;Padstomper;My friend will likely be joining soon. 743640;1404475338;mircea_popescu;who's she ? 743641;1404475340;Padstomper;Under the name Indiancandy1. 743642;1404475352;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 743643;1404475374;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 are you here for the tits ? 743644;1404475400;Padstomper;Yeah, she is. She'll likely have to register with nickserv, right? Or do you have some other way of maintaining verification? 743645;1404475413;mircea_popescu;she can register if she likes her nick, yeah 743646;1404475465;mircea_popescu;pankkake are you amazed by my amazing powers of "bitch and ye shall receive" yet btw ? 743647;1404475465;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 743648;1404475526;cazalla;just sat down with a beer, great timing 743649;1404475539;xmj;hahaha 743650;1404475585;mircea_popescu;are you still in oz ? 743651;1404475604;cazalla;yeah ofc 743652;1404475699;indiancandy1;"/msg nickserv register ". 743653;1404475740;Padstomper;Welp. Nothing to see here, move along. 743654;1404475765;mircea_popescu;Padstomper you know she doesn't HAVE to, the girl above did just fine w/o regging. 743655;1404475776;mircea_popescu;!up fulloffantasies 743656;1404475798;indiancandy1;/msg nickserv register 743657;1404475821;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 ditch the leading space. and also if your reddit or w/e pw is diva4ever you'd better change it, this is a logged channel. 743658;1404475834;indiancandy1;omgggg 743659;1404475854;cazalla;sounds like someone used the password guide bitcoinpete posted other day 743660;1404475889;Padstomper;Can you link that one? Idon't know it 743661;1404475905;mircea_popescu;!s from:bitcoinpete guide 743662;1404475906;assbot;1 results for 'from:bitcoinpete guide' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Abitcoinpete+guide 743663;1404475925;mircea_popescu;hmm that's not it. 743664;1404475927;cazalla;it's an onion article, not serious 743665;1404475929;Padstomper;Nop 743666;1404475935;mircea_popescu;all this fab technology that doesn't actually do stuff 743667;1404475938;cazalla;http://www.clickhole.com/article/tips-crafting-strong-password-really-pops-391 743668;1404475938;assbot;Tips For Crafting A Strong Password That Really Pops | ClickHole Because all content deserves to go viral 743669;1404476032;mircea_popescu;http://www.dailydot.com/esports/curse-astroturf-reddit-scandal/ 743670;1404476033;assbot;Reddit's moderator crisis continues with for-profit spam scandal 743671;1404476037;mircea_popescu;aww 743672;1404476043;cazalla;tips, guide, no semantic search? 743673;1404476220;Padstomper;Alright, so if she doesn't need to register.. 743674;1404476226;Padstomper;What should she do for verification? 743675;1404476255;mircea_popescu;lol strange relationshio you do got going. indiancandy1 got a link to your previous work ? 743676;1404476272;kyuupichan;Fuck, 800 BTC, that's half a buck sent to Karpeles again 743677;1404476291;Padstomper;I understand tech a bit more than she does. 743678;1404476292;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan you doing the logs ? 743679;1404476305;mircea_popescu;Padstomper well ok, but an url isn't that hard :) 743680;1404476307;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: ? 743681;1404476339;Padstomper;Yeah, moment. 743682;1404476348;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan i thought you ran into http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#743560 743683;1404476349;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 743684;1404476392;Padstomper;But yeah. It's a bit odd. But I practically live on irc and the internet, she's not so fluent with it. 743685;1404476417;mircea_popescu;great time to learn. 743686;1404476448;indiancandy1;http://imgur.com/JlzKjcw 743687;1404476448;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 743688;1404476450;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: Yeah, catching up. Unbelievable retirement Karpeles is gonna have. 743689;1404476452;indiancandy1;thats my boobies 743690;1404476457;indiancandy1;my nipples are peirced 743691;1404476500;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 do you have a site/a tumblr/something ? 743692;1404476524;indiancandy1;site? 743693;1404476529;indiancandy1;what type 743694;1404476533;indiancandy1;not im not good with the net 743695;1404476535;indiancandy1;im new here 743696;1404476539;indiancandy1;i dont have tumblr 743697;1404476540;indiancandy1;either 743698;1404476545;indiancandy1;duno how 2 use it 743699;1404476549;indiancandy1;is it like facebook 743700;1404476555;kyuupichan;Actually it seems they were returned. Haha. 743701;1404476576;mircea_popescu;lol. mkay. take a pic of your tits with 50027b6b written on your chest. make sure you get your head in there. 743702;1404476590;indiancandy1;y my face 743703;1404476602;indiancandy1;i dont have make up on 743704;1404476603;fulloffantasies;I didn't use my face. 743705;1404476605;indiancandy1;i look like poo 743706;1404476613;indiancandy1;and to get all dolled up 743707;1404476615;indiancandy1;is a long thing 743708;1404476617;indiancandy1;but wil do 743709;1404476619;indiancandy1;ur pic 743710;1404476621;indiancandy1;now 743711;1404476621;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 well, the problem is this : we can't really identify tits. 743712;1404476631;mircea_popescu;soon enough people will just be recycling the same ones. 743713;1404476636;indiancandy1;ok fair enough 743714;1404476643;indiancandy1;but what if my face is ugly 743715;1404476645;fulloffantasies;see, you keep saying that but if you write a specific code on the tits... 743716;1404476651;fulloffantasies;you're going to know if someone writes the wrong code... 743717;1404476656;fulloffantasies;hopefully 743718;1404476660;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies you gotta look into photoshop sometime., 743719;1404476668;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 it's okay, we don't judge. 743720;1404476679;fulloffantasies;lol no, I know about PS I'm just saying 743721;1404476681;mircea_popescu;well at least i don't. these other assholes... who knows. 743722;1404476685;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00082943 = 13.1879 BTC [-] 743723;1404476695;fulloffantasies;you got the girl's history posts, just ask her to show enough of her body/background and compre 743724;1404476700;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies for 50 bucks an azn sweatshop can make you be the queen of england. 743725;1404476717;mircea_popescu;omg stop managing my shit for me lmao. what's this! 743726;1404476819;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies actually if you wanna do something positive for your future, you should reg your nick with nickserv and then get in the wot. 743727;1404476828;fulloffantasies;Sorry. I mean, you were pretty cool about me not showing mine so I guess if it's that big of a deal to other girls as well you'll work it out. 743728;1404476842;fulloffantasies;? lol wut? 743729;1404476842;indiancandy1;maybe he kis curios 743730;1404476845;indiancandy1;his curios 743731;1404476848;indiancandy1;about my face 743732;1404476853;indiancandy1;coz my tits r dam hot 743733;1404476854;indiancandy1;lol 743734;1404476855;indiancandy1;ahahah 743735;1404476867;indiancandy1;im ugly dont get ur hopes up 743736;1404476875;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 no but really waht's all the shyness. you got tits, wear them proud. 743737;1404476888;indiancandy1;belive me 743738;1404476889;indiancandy1;i do 743739;1404476890;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies which part ? 743740;1404476893;mircea_popescu;!up Dekker3D 743741;1404476916;Dekker3D;"Padstomper" got devoiced. Figured I'd get on my normal irc client 743742;1404476924;mircea_popescu;ah 743743;1404476927;fulloffantasies;"reg your nick with nickserv and then get in the wot." 743744;1404476936;Dekker3D;What is the wot? 743745;1404476939;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies what indiancandy1 was trying for above. 743746;1404476946;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust Dekker3D 743747;1404476947;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Dekker3D: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Dekker3D | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dekker3D | Rated since: never 743748;1404476953;mircea_popescu;that's the wot. and you're not in it. 743749;1404476987;Dekker3D;Hm. Bitcoin web of trust. This explains why peopel don't need to register with nickserv 743750;1404476995;mircea_popescu;:p 743751;1404477007;Dekker3D;How do I use this? 743752;1404477035;mircea_popescu;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets << read this 743753;1404477035;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 743754;1404477046;Dekker3D;Thanks 743755;1404477081;Dekker3D;Did fulloffantasies not have to show her face because she's been on the web of trust for a while? 743756;1404477106;mircea_popescu;well, more because pankkake pestered me. 743757;1404477112;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust pankkake 743758;1404477113;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask pankkake!~anus@inara.p.engu.in. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user pankkake: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 8 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013 743759;1404477134;mircea_popescu;you can get away with bloody murder if you're well connected. 743760;1404477155;Dekker3D;Lovely. 743761;1404477174;Dekker3D;So... wait. Because pankkake bothered you, indiancandy1 has to show her face? 743762;1404477201;mircea_popescu;no lol. 743763;1404477208;Dekker3D;Can you give voice back to indiancandy1, by the way? 743764;1404477208;fulloffantasies;*shrug* I told them to compare my history posts to the ones I posted with the code to confirm it was me. 743765;1404477212;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 743766;1404477222;Dekker3D;Ah. 743767;1404477224;mircea_popescu;hai indiancandy1 743768;1404477230;fulloffantasies;showed a good bit of body for it for maximum comparison 743769;1404477232;fulloffantasies;but it worked. 743770;1404477248;indiancandy1;i have been voiced 743771;1404477249;Dekker3D;Well, yeah. She is keeping a bit of a disconnect from another identity, because of personal reasons. 743772;1404477250;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D he was all like "cmon man i've not seen a girl in six years plz don't be difficult" and so on. 743773;1404477251;indiancandy1;what is that 743774;1404477256;Dekker3D;That's why she doesn't want to show her face. 743775;1404477274;Dekker3D;Lol. 743776;1404477284;fulloffantasies;I just don't like it, lol. I love showing off, but it would ruin it for me entirely if I was identified... 743777;1404477288;Dekker3D;Well, some irc channels require "voice" 743778;1404477298;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies why's that ? 743779;1404477301;fulloffantasies;I like walking down the street and wondering whose seen me naked 743780;1404477301;Dekker3D;And it can be given to people who deserve it, and removed from those who prove they don't 743781;1404477305;indiancandy1;well it wouldnt ruin it 743782;1404477310;indiancandy1;but i would look cheap 743783;1404477312;indiancandy1;if it got out 743784;1404477313;Dekker3D;You can't talk without voice on this channel 743785;1404477316;fulloffantasies;but it would ruin it *for me* 743786;1404477319;indiancandy1;that i was sellin my boob pix 743787;1404477322;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ there' 743788;1404477324;assbot;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 743789;1404477325;mircea_popescu;s the story 743790;1404477348;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 to whom ? 743791;1404477351;indiancandy1;so did u 743792;1404477352;indiancandy1;un voice me 743793;1404477353;mircea_popescu;most people i know don't get .1 btc. 743794;1404477358;indiancandy1;i dont get this 743795;1404477362;indiancandy1;voice 743796;1404477363;indiancandy1;un voice 743797;1404477366;indiancandy1;exiting 743798;1404477367;mircea_popescu;fulloffantasies i see. 743799;1404477380;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 voice lasts 30 minutes at a time. 743800;1404477385;indiancandy1;yea 743801;1404477386;mircea_popescu;"-assbot- You voiced indiancandy1 for 30 minutes." it says 743802;1404477389;indiancandy1;this is so interesting 743803;1404477395;mircea_popescu;it is. 743804;1404477414;fulloffantasies;plus I think no faces is sexier. leave more to the imagination and all. 743805;1404477439;mircea_popescu;seems a bit infantile to me tbh. 743806;1404477454;fulloffantasies;*shrug* just my opinion. 743807;1404477458;indiancandy1;is it coz im indian 743808;1404477465;indiancandy1;LOL 743809;1404477466;indiancandy1;ahahah 743810;1404477485;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 are you indian ? 743811;1404477491;indiancandy1;half 743812;1404477491;cazalla;fwiw i was searching other day for bit of indian on the side 743813;1404477492;indiancandy1;duh 743814;1404477496;ThickAsThieves;mp bitches no one will show their tits, then bitches they won't show face, I see where this is going 743815;1404477498;indiancandy1;why would my user name be indian 743816;1404477511;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves lol. 743817;1404477515;indiancandy1;what indian curry 743818;1404477526;cazalla;well be it that missus is breastfeeding and all 743819;1404477531;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 so do you live in india ? 743820;1404477542;indiancandy1;i live in 743821;1404477546;indiancandy1;london/mumbai 743822;1404477570;mircea_popescu;so what's your native language ? tamil was it ? 743823;1404477617;mircea_popescu;!up fulloffantasies 743824;1404477640;indiancandy1;omg 743825;1404477644;indiancandy1;tamil is sri lanka 743826;1404477649;indiancandy1;not india 743827;1404477660;mircea_popescu;mahrati ? 743828;1404477666;indiancandy1;look at you 743829;1404477667;indiancandy1;ahaha 743830;1404477674;indiancandy1;im actualy not from maharashtra 743831;1404477676;indiancandy1;i just work there 743832;1404477680;indiancandy1;im punajbi 743833;1404477683;indiancandy1;punjabi 743834;1404477696;mircea_popescu;aha. what do you do, callcentering ? 743835;1404477715;indiancandy1;omg 743836;1404477716;indiancandy1;ahaha 743837;1404477718;indiancandy1;racist 743838;1404477722;cazalla;free ring ding 743839;1404477726;ThickAsThieves;stereotypist! 743840;1404477734;indiancandy1;you need 2 watch this comedy 743841;1404477736;mircea_popescu;im just askin'! 743842;1404477740;indiancandy1;on comedy central called outsourced 743843;1404477748;indiancandy1;its about a indian call centre 743844;1404477755;indiancandy1;its awsome 743845;1404477761;indiancandy1;no i work in media 743846;1404477764;indiancandy1;im a journalist 743847;1404477773;mircea_popescu;o hey. 743848;1404477778;mircea_popescu;did you write any bitcoin articles ? 743849;1404477783;indiancandy1;nooo 743850;1404477785;indiancandy1;bolywood 743851;1404477786;indiancandy1;LOL 743852;1404477788;indiancandy1;bollywood 743853;1404477797;indiancandy1;hindi cinema and 743854;1404477802;indiancandy1;tv serial 743855;1404477819;indiancandy1;what about u 743856;1404477829;mircea_popescu;what about me ? 743857;1404477833;indiancandy1;wat u do 743858;1404477842;mircea_popescu;;;google romanian billionaire 743859;1404477842;gribble;List of Romanians by net worth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Category:Romanian billionaires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Romanian billionaire, prosecuted for allegedly bribing two judges ...: ) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key with . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message) 743946;1404478612;Dekker3D;;;eregister Dekker3D 5802A70ED22A1B6E4 743947;1404478612;gribble;Error: '5802A70ED22A1B6E4' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. 743948;1404478619;Dekker3D;I'll try the one I found 743949;1404478623;FabianB;Dekker3D: is your key on a keyserver already? 743950;1404478623;mircea_popescu;what the fuck. 743951;1404478639;Dekker3D;Nop. It told me to add a revocation certificate first. 743952;1404478643;mircea_popescu;ah. 743953;1404478652;mircea_popescu;well yeah, it looks it up on the sks. gotta upload it first. 743954;1404478661;Dekker3D;But I can't figure out Kleopatra at all :P 743955;1404478673;mircea_popescu;is that the shitty windows client ? 743956;1404478683;Dekker3D;Yeah. 743957;1404478691;Dekker3D;I think there's a less shitty windows client too. I'll try that 743958;1404478693;mircea_popescu;which was the less shitty windows client i forget ? 743959;1404478698;mircea_popescu;!up veeminer 743960;1404478705;mircea_popescu;!up Dekker3D 743961;1404478709;chetty;life is better on Linux 743962;1404478736;mircea_popescu;btw interested parties : http://trilema.com/pgp/ check out the nifty path checker in there. 743963;1404478738;assbot;PGP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 743964;1404478745;Dekker3D;Thanks for the voice, mircea_popescu 743965;1404478804;mircea_popescu;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/one-legged-romanian-millionaire-dumped-wife-sixth-time-article-1.1802168 743966;1404478807;assbot;One-legged Romanian millionaire dumped by wife for sixth time - NY Daily News 743967;1404478827;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, the less shitty windows client doesn't seem to be included in gpg4win anymore. welp 743968;1404478843;mircea_popescu;you got no nix box ? 743969;1404478860;Dekker3D;Not at the moment. 743970;1404478867;Dekker3D;Not one I'd actually trust not to break down 743971;1404478878;mircea_popescu;well so get your pubkey and upload it by hand. 743972;1404479118;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 743973;1404479217;Dekker3D;I've told it to upload to a server, but it can't find my key under my name on that same server. Will it take a while for it to show up? 743974;1404479243;mircea_popescu;bout half an hour 743975;1404479249;Dekker3D;Ah. 743976;1404479250;mircea_popescu;what did you use, mit ? 743977;1404479265;pankkake;indiancandy1> my nipples are peirced <= ok, now I actually want to see tits 743978;1404479266;Dekker3D;The default, keys.gnupg.net 743979;1404479274;Dekker3D;Shall I throw it on the mit one too? 743980;1404479302;pankkake;Dekker3D: use pool.sks-keyservers.net 743981;1404479308;pankkake;the mit one is half not working 743982;1404479319;Dekker3D;Port? 743983;1404479332;pankkake;default? 743984;1404479349;Dekker3D;Alright. 743985;1404479398;pankkake;https://sks-keyservers.net/overview-of-pools.php for more details. I use hkps but it needs more configuration 743986;1404479399;assbot;SKS Keyservers: Overview of the pools 743987;1404479401;mircea_popescu;;;google horribly infected mastitis piercings for pankkake 743988;1404479402;gribble;No matches found. 743989;1404479407;pankkake;:/ 743990;1404479421;mircea_popescu;o no we reached the end of the internets 743991;1404479450;pankkake;I just like my girls with more holes than they were born with 743992;1404479450;Dekker3D;I just used the url you sent. Is that going to be a problem? 743993;1404479467;Dekker3D;Mastitits. Infection of the tits. That's a straightforward name.. 743994;1404479501;Dekker3D;So I can't use this gpg keypair until it shows up on that server, right? 743995;1404479517;mircea_popescu;you can use it just fine, but gribble won't know about it until it's there 743996;1404479524;Dekker3D;Ah. 743997;1404479534;chetty;pankkake, peirced ears are pretty common :P 743998;1404479535;Dekker3D;So I can't use it to authenticate with gribble, at least. 743999;1404479544;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D a, you're indiancandy1's bf ? 744000;1404479548;pankkake;chetty: right, those don't count unless it's more than once! 744001;1404479572;Dekker3D;Eh. She's not very specific about how she feels about me. I've got kind of an odd thing with her. Other than that, I just help her get stuff done 744002;1404479595;Dekker3D;I don't think I'd call myself her boyfriend, but afaik she doesn't have anything closer to it at the moment 744003;1404479618;mircea_popescu;what a life. 744004;1404479633;Dekker3D;It's a weird internet thing. Never met in person, though we did try to plan such a thing twice. 744005;1404479663;mircea_popescu;kinda the norm for reddit innit ? 744006;1404479670;Dekker3D;Yeah, I suppose 744007;1404479860;indiancandy1;i like girls with more holes than they were born with 744008;1404479863;indiancandy1;interesting 744009;1404479890;Dekker3D;I met her on irc, actually. Fun times. Not even the "meet people" or "fuck people" kind of channel, but the kind that's about a silly internet game that hardly anybody even played :P 744010;1404479919;pankkake;actually, I'm thinking you end up meeting more people in non-meeting channels 744011;1404479925;Dekker3D;Yep 744012;1404479930;indiancandy1;mastitits 744013;1404479931;Dekker3D;Because you talk about actual stuff you give a shit about 744014;1404479936;indiancandy1;is that a disease 744015;1404479937;indiancandy1;or percing 744016;1404479941;Dekker3D;Rather than walks on the beach and romantic candlelight 744017;1404479944;indiancandy1;masti means mischevious in hindi 744018;1404479946;Dekker3D;Anything-itis is an infection 744019;1404479952;Dekker3D;Masti-anything means tits 744020;1404479961;indiancandy1;masti 744021;1404479962;indiancandy1;lol 744022;1404479963;Dekker3D;mastitis is an infection on the tits. In other words, infected nipple piercings 744023;1404479965;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 -tis means inflamation, like nephritis or otitis. 744024;1404479972;indiancandy1;ohhh 744025;1404479975;indiancandy1;thanks 744026;1404479982;mircea_popescu;mastit comes from masticare in latin, which means to chew. because tits are for chewing 744027;1404479991;mircea_popescu;so inflamed chewing gum = mastitis. 744028;1404479992;Dekker3D;I once had gingivitis. Gingiva = gums or something. 744029;1404480001;Dekker3D;... Lol 744030;1404480004;indiancandy1;o god 744031;1404480007;indiancandy1;change this convo 744032;1404480015;Dekker3D;Sure thing. 744033;1404480016;indiancandy1;not cool 744034;1404480031;indiancandy1;so 744035;1404480031;Dekker3D;You know how it is with a bunch of geeks. Topic changes all over the place. 744036;1404480034;indiancandy1;whose watching 744037;1404480037;indiancandy1;india vs england 744038;1404480040;indiancandy1;lol 744039;1404480083;mircea_popescu;aite, that's all for me. see you tomorrow! 744040;1404480234;indiancandy1;http://imgur.com/Jthhtst 744041;1404480234;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 744042;1404480237;indiancandy1;the number isnt clear 744043;1404480274;indiancandy1;http://imgur.com/8u8eZ1e 744044;1404480275;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 744045;1404480280;indiancandy1;is that goood enough marcio 744046;1404480283;indiancandy1;mircea 744047;1404480515;chetty;http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2014/07/flints_top_cop_tells_parents_e.html 744048;1404480515;assbot;Flint's top cop tells parents: Enjoy events with your children -- or prepare to pay curfew fine | MLive.com 744049;1404480576;chetty;indiancandy1, he just left but the tatto may make it ok to get your coin 744050;1404480598;indiancandy1;how will we know 744051;1404480602;indiancandy1;is he coming back 744052;1404480603;indiancandy1;or 744053;1404480608;indiancandy1;he could have said bye 744054;1404480612;indiancandy1;atleast 744055;1404480614;indiancandy1;manners 744056;1404480633;chetty;you'll need to check back in here, and he did say : aite, that's all for me. see you tomorrow! 744057;1404480739;indiancandy1;oh no 744058;1404480743;indiancandy1;2moro 744059;1404480976;chetty;!up indiancandy1 744060;1404481504;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00082943 = 1.7418 BTC [-] 744061;1404482232;pankkake;well they could have left a btc address 744062;1404482502;chetty;they will be back 744063;1404482514;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/29toug/investing_in_litecoin_ecosystem_development/ that is one pathetic bagholder 744064;1404482514;assbot;Investing In Litecoin Ecosystem Development : litecoin 744065;1404482602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.03368967 = 0.977 BTC [-] {5} 744066;1404482842;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/mycelium-announces-entropy-offline-usb-paper-wallet-creator/ the issue here is that I don't trust my printer 744067;1404482842;assbot;Mycelium Announces 'Entropy' Offline USB Paper Wallet Creator 744068;1404482850;cazalla;step up and be their roger ver pankkake 744069;1404482860;pankkake;I can be the Roger Ver of Bernankoin 744070;1404482896;cazalla;still, can't believe i bought that shit for 5c 744071;1404482921;cazalla;wouldn't buy it for 5c now that's for sure 744072;1404482939;pankkake;I only know what I bought in BTC, fiat for altcoins never made sense to me 744073;1404482964;pankkake;one of the few times I was smart to cut my losses 744074;1404482969;chetty;fiat doesn't make sense 744075;1404482986;cazalla;i don't remember what the btc/ltc ratio was, just that they were 5c-6c at the time 744076;1404483012;cazalla;nfi how i didn't lose everything along the way 744077;1404483041;pankkake;until I can buy advocados with bitcoins, fiat will make sense 744078;1404483044;cazalla;fuck, no drinking for lik, 6 weeks, 3 long necks and i'm done 744079;1404483207;pankkake;I almost did a snackman, sent bets without fee. thankfully the weight isn't that low 744080;1404483230;ThickAsThieves;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/gao-14-496.pdf 744081;1404483238;pankkake;I thought Armory would be smart enough and select a big old input… it did not 744082;1404483249;cazalla;what bet? 744083;1404483258;cazalla;regretting betting on germany now :\ fkn team is sick 744084;1404483260;pankkake;France vs. Germany 744085;1404483278;pankkake;I bet on both… to see if this betting on two sides actually works 744086;1404483309;cazalla;France might be a good bet now if the reports of German players being sick is true 744087;1404483335;pankkake;sabotage! 744088;1404483473;chetty;ooo another avocado lover :)) 744089;1404483484;ThickAsThieves;my wife loves em too 744090;1404483639;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00082526 = 1.0316 BTC [-] 744091;1404483658;artifexd;!up Bella_ 744092;1404483666;Bella_;thank you very much :) 744093;1404483673;artifexd;np 744094;1404483721;Bella_;I got a message on reddit about tits post :) 744095;1404483726;Bella_;is that still available ? 744096;1404483746;pankkake;it is - however mircea_popescu isn't online for now, he just left 744097;1404483781;kakobrekla;come back when titmaster is about 744098;1404483800;Bella_;I understand, thank you very much for your help ! Have a lovely day ! xx 744099;1404483824;ThickAsThieves;lol if i'm reading this correctly, the EBA is suggesting that any virtual currency "scheme" would be required to have a central authority representing it 744100;1404483826;ThickAsThieves;154. The entity would be called the ‘scheme governance authority’, which is a non-governmental entity that establishes and governs the rules for the use of a particular VC scheme.24 It is a legal person, and is responsible for maintaining the integrity of the central transaction ledger, the protocol, and any other core functional component of the scheme. The scheme governance 744101;1404483826;ThickAsThieves;authority would be required to comply with regulatory and supervisory requirements of various kinds to mitigate identified risks. 744102;1404483909;ThickAsThieves;they go on to say this authority could be decentralized, but it doesnt quite make sense to me 744103;1404483917;ThickAsThieves;http://www.eba.europa.eu/documents/10180/657547/EBA-Op-2014-08+Opinion+on+Virtual+Currencies.pdf 744104;1404483992;ThickAsThieves;!up Duffer1 744105;1404484016;Duffer1;thanks hehe 744106;1404484061;ThickAsThieves;"the global, internet-based nature of VCs would require a 744107;1404484062;ThickAsThieves;regulatory approach to strive for an international, and ideally global, coordination, otherwise 744108;1404484062;ThickAsThieves;it will be difficult achieve a successful regulatory regime." 744109;1404484078;ThickAsThieves;VCs = Virtual Currencies 744110;1404484083;Duffer1;good lord 744111;1404484157;Duffer1;they have international cooperation with copyright law and they can't even dent torrent sharing 744112;1404484191;pankkake;this bureaucrat probably dreams of a World Government 744113;1404484201;ThickAsThieves;The EBA also recommends that EU legislators consider declaring virtual currency exchanges 744114;1404484201;ThickAsThieves;as ‘obliged entities’ that must comply with anti-money laundering and counter terrorist 744115;1404484201;ThickAsThieves;financing requirements set out in the EU Anti Money Laundering Directive. 744116;1404484222;xmj;pankkake: they think 1984 is a manual... 744117;1404484249;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.18200038 = 0.546 BTC [-] {2} 744118;1404484286;chetty;what 1984 isn't a manual? 744119;1404484371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00082411 = 4.8309 BTC [-] 744120;1404484404;chetty; it will be difficult achieve a successful regulatory regime."//but everything can be fixed with more and better laws 744121;1404484497;chetty;Declaration of Independence 1322 words, US Constitution 7794 words, Government Regulations on the sale of cheese 34,823 words. 744122;1404484524;pankkake;yeah, many similar examples unfortunately. many codes with high inflation 744123;1404484599;ThickAsThieves;wordcoins 744124;1404484676;chetty;ooo what if all laws had to be published and paid for by the word :) 744125;1404484920;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 74 @ 0.03217494 = 2.3809 BTC [-] {8} 744126;1404485070;artifexd;kakobrekla: You around? 744127;1404485076;kakobrekla;yes 744128;1404485111;artifexd;Whenever bet 989 gets tweeted, the tweet gets truncated at the ampersand. 744129;1404485146;artifexd;Example: https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/484943483502100480 744130;1404485147;assbot;0.20030000 /hashtag/BTC?src=hash on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to win vs S 744131;1404485196;kakobrekla;aha, prolly some retard coded it. 744132;1404485215;kakobrekla;ill check. 744133;1404485230;artifexd;Those tweets were causing []bot to crash. 744134;1404485237;kakobrekla;:D 744135;1404485248;kakobrekla;amazing 744136;1404485248;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 744137;1404485263;artifexd;Apparently an interface can be point to a nil value but not be nil, in golang. 744138;1404485305;kakobrekla;heh 744139;1404486224;artifexd;Anyway, []bot is now more resilient. \o/ 744140;1404487544;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu Ольга Борисовна Лепешинская the 'biologist' 744141;1404487545;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744142;1404488458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00082134 = 4.1888 BTC [-] 744143;1404488986;asciilifeform;pankkake: re: 'mycelium' << the nice thing is that i don't even need to purchase and cut open the unit to piss on it. you can't fit a user-auditable rng in a keychain. simple physical fact. 744144;1404489024;asciilifeform;(well, technically a somewhat larger keychain - could. but not this.) 744145;1404489129;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082194 = 15.1237 BTC [+] {2} 744146;1404489617;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71338460 BTC to 11`460 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 744147;1404489739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 84.71721574 BTC to 77`494 shares, 109321 satoshi per share 744148;1404489788;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu anyone keeping a list of ips used by nsa&friends for ops << if these folks have the elementary nervous system the gods gave the lowliest spammer, they have a steady supply of fresh ones. this is in no sense difficult, even for children. 744149;1404489788;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744150;1404489836;kyuupichan;"Following three months of analysis, the EBA issued a public warning on 13 December 2013, making consumers aware that VC are not regulated and that the risks are unmitigated 744151;1404489836;kyuupichan;as a result." Yeah I bet "consumers" were hanging on EBA's every word. 744152;1404490009;kyuupichan;"VC schemes do not respect jurisdictional boundaries" We demand respect! 744153;1404490027;kyuupichan;"Identified several risks...including...risks to regulatory authorities" Like obsolescence? 744154;1404490105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 5.93087386 BTC to 29`438 shares, 20147 satoshi per share 744155;1404490349;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00082369 = 0.7413 BTC [+] 744156;1404490491;chetty;http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2014/07/EBA_VCrisks.png 744157;1404490537;chetty;!up Minxhibitionist 744158;1404490546;Minxhibitionist;Thank you! 744159;1404490549;cazalla;time to load up on germany before half time heh 744160;1404490583;chetty;Minxhibitionist, couldn't resist the name, what brings you here? 744161;1404490596;Minxhibitionist;Hahaha, tits for bitcoin, but I had a question. xD 744162;1404490624;chetty;cool, MP isn't on but maybe we can help 744163;1404490666;Minxhibitionist;That's fine, I can come back later. One of the other girls was given a kind of hard time about showing her face, do you know if that's going to be a problem? I just don't really do that. o.O 744164;1404490750;chetty;a lot of girls seem to have that problem, the issue as far as I know is ensuring people don't double dip with photoshops 744165;1404490799;Minxhibitionist;Hahaha, that shouldn't be a problem, I have a tattoo right on my sternum. =P 744166;1404490818;Minxhibitionist;I just don't want to be like, "Yo gimme money" if I'm not exactly what they're looking for. 744167;1404490848;chetty;that might do it, check back when mp is on. got a wallet set up for it? 744168;1404490885;Minxhibitionist;Yep! Thanks for your help. 744169;1404490959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03108825 = 0.5285 BTC [-] {6} 744170;1404490978;chetty;haha so the last risk on that chart, central bank can no longer steer the economy 744171;1404491691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00082134 = 2.7926 BTC [-] 744172;1404491752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00082089 = 5.0485 BTC [-] {2} 744173;1404492054;chetty;Breaking News: The horse and buggy industry warns of the dangers of Automobiles. 744174;1404492953;kyuupichan;chetty: A bunch of that shit doesn't apply to VCs, and half applies to FCs. What a lot of hot air. 744175;1404492972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0141 = 0.705 BTC [-] 744176;1404493024;chetty;kyuupichan, course, but its funny 744177;1404493025;kyuupichan;chetty: And the last one has a risk of "low". Haha. 744178;1404493085;chetty;a lot of the usual - we must protect people from themselves 744179;1404494330;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu they have updated their extortion site, no more blackjack, but apparently we still have 'registration'. anyway, to anyones amusement http://i.imgur.com/RmaBveO.png 744180;1404494330;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744181;1404494611;kakobrekla;also, someone put up scam-report.org and ripoffreport on the list. 744182;1404495036;chetty;time to start ripping off the rippoffs? 744183;1404495168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.02835111 = 0.6804 BTC [-] {2} 744184;1404495176;kakobrekla;someone should put em in jail 744185;1404495192;kakobrekla;for some assrape experience. 744186;1404495343;thestringpuller;"i will pay you 10 BTS to fuck off" 744187;1404495412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11370 @ 0.00082135 = 9.3387 BTC [+] 744188;1404495618;mike_c;kakobrekla: no joke, this is him: http://b-i.forbesimg.com/adamtanner/files/2013/05/ed-magedson-3.jpg 744189;1404495643;kakobrekla;lolwtf where did you find this 744190;1404495649;mike_c;http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/05/09/love-it-or-hate-it-ripoffreport-is-in-expansion-mode/ 744191;1404495650;assbot;Love It Or Hate It, Ripoff Report Is In Expansion Mode - Forbes 744192;1404495674;kakobrekla;>Ed Magedson lives at a secret location in Arizona, convinced that some people not only fantasize about killing him but would actually do so if they got the chance. 744193;1404495679;kakobrekla;well, what was my last email? 744194;1404495846;pankkake;another proof that you should not trust fat people :p 744195;1404495961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.02835111 = 0.8505 BTC [-] 744196;1404495985;asciilifeform;'ripoff report' << 'WoT' is the modern medicine answer to this blood-letting. 744197;1404496029;chetty;The money pays for inspectors to verify that complaints have been resolved 744198;1404496062;asciilifeform;or for mr magedson's coke habit 744199;1404496157;pankkake;oh, coke as in coca coal 744200;1404496160;pankkake;cola 744201;1404496176;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 744202;1404496188;gribble;Current Blocks: 309202 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1261 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16364098819.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.70157 744203;1404496210;pankkake;mircea_popescu: you have missed tits 744204;1404496239;mircea_popescu;pankkake at the most tits have missed me. 744205;1404496273;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this is in no sense difficult, even for children. << you forget, they're in finite supply. and the last one has been allocated. 744206;1404496311;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: last 'block' has been allocated. but what spammer (or secret police shop) actually buys ip blocks? you install proxies on the pwned, and use these. 744207;1404496363;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: for so long as winblows is a thing, no malefactor will ever lack for fresh ip. 744208;1404496387;mircea_popescu;yes. but you leave the trace. 744209;1404496388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5235 @ 0.00082135 = 4.2998 BTC [+] 744210;1404496397;mircea_popescu;there's nothing worse in all a crow's job than history. 744211;1404496411;mircea_popescu;that's why they think we should care so much about the blockchain. 744212;1404496417;asciilifeform;what trace? so a chumper finds that he was running a socks5 proxy. big deal. 744213;1404496474;asciilifeform;say he grows a brain, and starts 'tcpdump'ing. finds that the proxy just connects to another just like it. rsa on both ends. 744214;1404496496;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform when ? 744215;1404496503;mircea_popescu;which one ? 744216;1404496512;mircea_popescu;if only it were so easy. 744217;1404496515;asciilifeform;simply picture a correctly designed 'tor' 744218;1404496526;mircea_popescu;which doesn't exist. 744219;1404496548;asciilifeform;every self-respecting botnet herder uses something approximately like this. 744220;1404496561;mircea_popescu;the only thing missing was a way to finance killing bureaucrats. the ONLY thing missing. otherwise, exactly how 128 key messages left from 1990 are now easy to crack, exactly so, 744221;1404496570;mircea_popescu;the mistakes of 2001 are wide open, like it or not. 744222;1404496586;mircea_popescu;an organisation which is required to operate continuously has basically yet necessarily just lost 744223;1404496605;asciilifeform;the bureaucrats appear to be alive, in good health. 744224;1404496611;mircea_popescu;"approximately" in the past doesn't cut it. you only know what to approximate retrospectively. 744225;1404496623;mircea_popescu;really ? i recall a lot of mysterious drops recently. 744226;1404496652;asciilifeform;the usual 'fratricides' among their own kind, unless appearances deceive me 744227;1404496662;mircea_popescu;now why would you assume this ? 744228;1404496697;asciilifeform;based simply on the examples known to me (e.g. the woman involved with 'obamacare' etc) 744229;1404496720;*;asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't wield the nailgun, doesn't know the truth obviously 744230;1404496751;mircea_popescu;so wait. your assumption works like ths : agent X was more likely killed by the agency he worked for than by the agency he didn't work for. 744231;1404496753;mircea_popescu;is this sound ? 744232;1404496768;asciilifeform;afaik - the historic norm 744233;1404496794;mircea_popescu;count heads, 1950-1985. 744234;1404496801;chetty;yeah but is it the agency he worked for or the other agency he worked for or 744235;1404496815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 22.80000000 BTC to 30`000`000 shares, 76 satoshi per share 744236;1404496818;mircea_popescu;chetty or should have worked for, or could have worked for, or would have worked for 744237;1404496823;mircea_popescu;or might have worked for. 744238;1404496830;chetty;exactly 744239;1404496853;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla awww why so wiolent! shoulda just linked thyem to lulzarticle. 744240;1404496888;kakobrekla;did dat. 744241;1404496898;kakobrekla;on the previous reply actually. 744242;1404496904;kakobrekla;now they fixed it a bit. 744243;1404496909;kakobrekla;gave it another go. 744244;1404496911;davout;mircea_popescu: a winrar is you 744245;1404496920;asciilifeform;at any rate, since when has plugging a bureaucrat solved anything. they're a 'renewable resource,' to use the enviro-whiner parlance. 744246;1404496947;davout;i has a sad 744247;1404496967;*;asciilifeform read jim bell's infamous paper just like everyone else, knows the ideal theory 744248;1404496995;mircea_popescu;moiety pls to send "carterjeniffer77@gmail.com" an email, subject : Congratulations, you've become a public laughingstock. Body : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744179 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#730297 744249;1404496996;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 744250;1404496996;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 744251;1404497009;kakobrekla;i know they arent doing any damage except keeping the idiots away but it pisses me off extraordinarily for some reason. 744252;1404497010;mircea_popescu;davout o it finished ? aww!!1 744253;1404497040;mircea_popescu;lol look at all the late .1s 744254;1404497055;davout;mircea_popescu: at the last minute benzema almost scored, but no 744255;1404497071;mircea_popescu;so did you enjoy the game ? 744256;1404497073;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you've time, explain the theory behind the 'bits for tits' project. 744257;1404497083;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what's to explain ? 744258;1404497104;davout;watched only half of it 744259;1404497109;asciilifeform;as in - what is the purpose. (surely there is no want of tit pic.) so, presumably, it is to give female beggars some coin to experiment with ? 744260;1404497115;kakobrekla;cried the other half. 744261;1404497128;davout;kakobrekla: nah first half i was in some boring meeting 744262;1404497157;kakobrekla;sorry then, ctrl 744263;1404497160;kakobrekla;*z 744264;1404497160;davout;facepalming at some guy insisting that bitcoin represented a claim 744265;1404497169;davout;anyway 744266;1404497184;davout;switching to my dutch passport nao 744267;1404497188;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao 744268;1404497208;mircea_popescu;hahahaha davout has options an' he's not affraid to use them! 744269;1404497229;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you familiar with the "half my advertising budget is wasted, i just don't know which half" ditty ? 744270;1404497235;asciilifeform;sure. 744271;1404497241;mircea_popescu;what's the rational approach to that ? 744272;1404497248;*;asciilifeform satisfied 744273;1404497249;mircea_popescu;guess what. i fucking know which half is wasted. 744274;1404497305;mircea_popescu;o you're satisfied ? sorry honey, i'm not done yet. let's continue. 744275;1404497310;asciilifeform;why not, sure 744276;1404497315;asciilifeform;but i think i know 'which half' 744277;1404497324;mircea_popescu;taken in another hole : you familiar with the concept that you should never, ever, under any circumstances compete in saturated markets ? 744278;1404497331;asciilifeform;aye 744279;1404497345;mircea_popescu;well so then there. i'd rather bury some money than do "traditional advertising" 744280;1404497349;*;asciilifeform summons naggum from the grave, but can't be bothered to re-spam the piece that everyone has already memorized 744281;1404497360;mircea_popescu;much like i'd rather hire astrologists like reagan's wife than read "the press" 744282;1404497405;mircea_popescu;and it's not done even now, but srsly, two holes should be enough for everyone. 744283;1404497416;asciilifeform;lol 744284;1404497466;mircea_popescu;can you imagine how the world would look, incidentally, if most corp officers stuck to this thinking ? 744285;1404497483;mircea_popescu;the whole libertard machine'd be all "o please, no more change!!!" 744286;1404497512;mircea_popescu;they're only progressives now because it's so damned easy to be one, when nobody wants to fucking think. 744287;1404497539;mircea_popescu;the exact same set of noxious retards would be ultraconservative - nay, WERE ultraconservative back when business was sane 744288;1404497543;mircea_popescu;say 1880. 744289;1404497547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9947 @ 0.00007156 = 0.7118 BTC [-] {7} 744290;1404497644;mircea_popescu;o wow, the chick actually spent two hours chatting, dropped her tits two minutes after i left ? 744291;1404497753;mircea_popescu;;;later tell indiancandy1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744290 lol. anyway, drop your address. 744292;1404497753;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 744293;1404497753;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744294;1404497772;mircea_popescu;btw is anyone saving these pix ? pankkake ? vexual ? cazalla ? 744295;1404497835;pankkake;I did not, nor did I open them 744296;1404497849;mircea_popescu;i thought you liked piercings 744297;1404497880;pankkake;unfortunately, people can see my monitor 744298;1404497890;mircea_popescu;aww. 744299;1404497898;mircea_popescu;aite, i guess i'll save them. 744300;1404497917;pankkake;well I'm at home now, just need to find them 744301;1404497966;mircea_popescu;what's with the camerashy camwhores anyway ?! 744302;1404498052;chetty;you seem to be getting girls that have regular jobs too ... 744303;1404498085;mircea_popescu;chetty you see ? and then people wonder why angry incels are so angrily in cell! 744304;1404498133;chetty;well I can see the issue, people are getting fired for twitter posts even 744305;1404498151;mircea_popescu;not by me. 744306;1404498176;chetty;.1 btc isnt gonna last long :P 744307;1404498214;mircea_popescu;i can't possibly be the only sane employer in the world. 744308;1404498239;chetty;mebbe 744309;1404498248;mircea_popescu;"This is about Litecoiners' voluntarism. We are at a junction where Litecoin is NOT an instrument of speculation anymore that follows the up/downs of Bitcoin and is eclipsed in its background. It has grown-up to the point where it is an independent secure payment network. 744310;1404498249;mircea_popescu;Thus, it is time for Litecoin (big) holders to step up and invest (investing their LTCs) frankly in the Litecoin network" 744311;1404498264;mircea_popescu;"hello, it is time for you to spend your money to make my shit worth more" 744312;1404498281;mircea_popescu;this sounds so very much like fucktarded "ipo" shills... 744313;1404498305;mircea_popescu;another one "Amen to this post. Large holders and early miners who are holding need to have the question put to them of, what do you think is going to drive Litecoin adoption? " 744314;1404498344;mircea_popescu;"OTHER PEOPLE MUST WORK FOR ME!!!!11". this is what you've done, United States. After two centuries of srs, two decades of this shit is effectively erasing you from the history. 744315;1404498368;mircea_popescu;nobody;s going to remember all the excellent blowjobs you gave, everyone's going to remember that final half hour you were a fucking psycho harpy. 744316;1404498451;asciilifeform;chetty: not sure if anyone is really 'fired for post.' rather, they need an excuse to sack somebody, and this one's as good as any. 744317;1404498478;pankkake;this is like the asicminer thread, where 90% of the content is "what should asicminer do" 744318;1404498506;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform indian chick having a lot of trouble for being a slut i can see. 744319;1404498527;mircea_popescu;pankkake made ever easier by the devilish pace of activeminer's own activity :D 744320;1404498551;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: india is a very peculiar living fossil in a number of ways. ask anybody from there. 744321;1404498562;pankkake;asicminer, not activemining 744322;1404498570;mircea_popescu;oh oh 744323;1404498626;mircea_popescu;!up glitchypoo 744324;1404498663;mircea_popescu;lolk. i guess it was glitchy. 744325;1404498702;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: lol if i'm reading this correctly, the EBA is suggesting that any virtual currency "scheme" would be required to have a central authority representing it << they didn't quite bother to read anything in their overwhelming hurry to write shit. 744326;1404498706;mircea_popescu;!up bitstein 744327;1404498763;mircea_popescu;chetty: Declaration of Independence 1322 words, US Constitution 7794 words, Government Regulations on the sale of cheese 34,823 words. << but you know why this is. 744328;1404498786;mircea_popescu;afaik before bitbet there has not existed this century in the "civilised world" a case where one told people to stfu about it. 744329;1404498811;mircea_popescu;"o no, we must make the specifications better" "no, you just have to come to terms with fucking reality" 744330;1404498839;mircea_popescu;artifexd: Those tweets were causing []bot to crash. << o wow! kako you broke her ampersands! 744331;1404498903;bitstein;Howdy 744332;1404498914;mircea_popescu;hey. 744333;1404498945;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan: "Identified several risks...including...risks to regulatory authorities" Like obsolescence? << principally. 744334;1404498950;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.18999126 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2} 744335;1404498968;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Minxhibitionist now i'm here. 744336;1404498968;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744337;1404498980;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bella_ now i'm here. 744338;1404498980;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744339;1404499091;mircea_popescu;mike_c: kakobrekla: no joke, this is him: http://b-i.forbesimg.com/adamtanner/files/2013/05/ed-magedson-3.jpg << shit sherlock! 744340;1404499096;mircea_popescu;!up shandid 744341;1404499104;shandid;hey thx 744342;1404499109;mircea_popescu;yw 744343;1404499160;shandid;I was told there might be boobs here 744344;1404499170;FabianB;http://www.php.net/manual/en/datetimeimmutable.modify.php <-- wahahaha 744345;1404499171;assbot;PHP: DateTimeImmutable::modify - Manual 744346;1404499181;mircea_popescu;shandid http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits scroll down. 744347;1404499182;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 744348;1404499186;Mats_cd03;gross, boobs 744349;1404499187;mircea_popescu;or were you looking to add to the collection ? 744350;1404499224;shandid;nobody wants to see my boobs haha 744351;1404499225;bitstein;http://jezebel.com/tearing-down-the-whorearchy-from-the-inside-1596459558 744352;1404499226;assbot;Tearing Down the Whorearchy From the Inside 744353;1404499226;mircea_popescu;FabianB lol 744354;1404499242;mircea_popescu;bitstein o wait, they're burning up gawker offices ? 744355;1404499278;bitstein;I wish. 744356;1404499314;mircea_popescu;how come everyone keeps quoting gawker sites btw ? we in the demo or something ? 744357;1404499438;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6734 @ 0.00082042 = 5.5247 BTC [-] 744358;1404499440;pankkake;FabianB: lol, and here I thought PHP was cleaning itself up with new versions 744359;1404499621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.02710001 = 1.7615 BTC [-] 744360;1404499660;nubbins`;saw this today while out for a walk: 744361;1404499661;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/USJcNll 744362;1404499661;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 744363;1404499662;bitstein;I only saw that one because a bunch of libertarians I used to associate with give her attention. 744364;1404499696;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what are we seeing ? 744365;1404499709;nubbins`;that's a big ol' iceberg just outside the narrows of the harbour 744366;1404499730;mircea_popescu;wow 744367;1404499732;asciilifeform;nubbins`: turns out i guessed wrong (atomic dirigible) 744368;1404499737;nubbins`;heh 744369;1404499741;nubbins`;yeah, they're really late this year 744370;1404499746;mircea_popescu;dude stop blogal warming. 744371;1404499764;nubbins`;come on now, if global warming was real, we'd see icebergs in july 744372;1404499766;nubbins`;wait 744373;1404499788;*;nubbins` ponders this over iceberg beer 744374;1404499796;mircea_popescu;i guess it's possible global warming manifests as cooling because other places warm EVEN MORE 744375;1404499800;nubbins`;(which is totally a thing you can buy here) 744376;1404499801;mircea_popescu;it was unseasonably hot on mercury 744377;1404499832;nubbins`;it was unseasonably hot in the arctic circle as well 744378;1404499859;nubbins`;but hey, i'm not complaining, great photo ops 744379;1404499889;mircea_popescu;more icebergs being the result of warmer weather ? 744380;1404499893;*;nubbins` nods 744381;1404499897;nubbins`;they calve off glaciers 744382;1404499902;mircea_popescu;hm 744383;1404499914;nubbins`;bumper crop this year 744384;1404499926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 147 @ 0.02710001 = 3.9837 BTC [-] 744385;1404499936;nubbins`;but y'know 744386;1404499941;nubbins`;the arctic has been melting for a while 744387;1404499972;nubbins`;why, the northwest passage is a fucking trade route these days 744388;1404499981;nubbins`;no pack ice since 2009 744389;1404499987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01439999 = 0.72 BTC [+] 744390;1404500033;mircea_popescu;Parliament at Ottawa renamed it the "Canadian Northwest Passage" in motion M-387 passed unanimously 2 December 2009 744391;1404500034;mircea_popescu;lel 744392;1404500048;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00082294 = 13.4551 BTC [+] {4} 744393;1404500065;nubbins`;inorite 744394;1404500088;asciilifeform;obligatory: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/174348 744395;1404500088;assbot;The Cremation of Sam McGee by Robert W. Service : The Poetry Foundation 744396;1404500088;nubbins`;sovereignty begins at home! 744397;1404500095;nubbins`;asciilifeform +1 744398;1404500233;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well, til. 744399;1404500250;*;nubbins` tips hat 744400;1404500304;nubbins`;and at that, i'm off to enjoy this unseasonably hot weather 744401;1404500312;chetty;nubbins`, you must not be paying enough carbon tax 744402;1404500316;mircea_popescu;!up dmmill_ 744403;1404500354;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 35 @ 0.0170397 = 0.5964 BTC [+] {4} 744404;1404500392;dmmill_;hey 744405;1404500411;mircea_popescu;heya. what brings you here ? 744406;1404500432;dmmill_;i heard you guys are doing bitcoins for tits 744407;1404500441;mircea_popescu;sure. got a link to your prev work ? 744408;1404500457;dmmill_;http://www.reddit.com/user/dmmill/submitted/ 744409;1404500458;assbot;submitted by dmmill 744410;1404500476;dmmill_;http://dmmill.imgur.com/ 744411;1404500476;assbot;dmmill's albums - Imgur 744412;1404500491;mircea_popescu;and let me guess, you have issues with showing your face ? 744413;1404500506;dmmill_;i'll show a bit of it but i don't want to show my whole face 744414;1404500537;mircea_popescu;okay. put 1824bebd on your tits and get enough in there so we can distinguish you from other girls. 744415;1404500665;artifexd;mircea_popescu: These numbers that you're having the girls put on their chests, do they combine to make your public key or something else significant? 744416;1404500674;mircea_popescu;artifexd you got joins/parts off ? 744417;1404500685;artifexd;Yes 744418;1404500689;mircea_popescu;that'd explain it. 744419;1404500706;moiety;email sent mircea_popescu 744420;1404500711;mircea_popescu;thanks lovely. 744421;1404500716;artifexd;Ah. I see it now. 744422;1404500735;pankkake;ooooh 744423;1404500736;moiety;yvw :] 744424;1404500743;mircea_popescu;artifexd was a fun mystery while it lated. 744425;1404500959;kakobrekla;shandidnt 744426;1404500963;mircea_popescu;lol 744427;1404500996;dmmill_;http://imgur.com/a/JfrDE 744428;1404500997;assbot;1824bebd - Imgur 744429;1404501009;dmmill_;these work? it wasn't showing up well so i took a few angles 744430;1404501020;mircea_popescu;btw, just so we're clear, if any of you ends up proposing marriage to these lovely topless damsels i'll expect a 1 btc pimping fee paid directly, to keep the nude ball rolling. 744431;1404501044;pankkake;I like the angles/placement :) 744432;1404501045;mircea_popescu;dmmill_ yeah, they'll do. address ? 744433;1404501058;mircea_popescu;pankkake she's a pretty girl isn't she. 744434;1404501088;dmmill_;1PUDBBfxujdXs6aZigTyMgRYKssyxDNf8G 744435;1404501089;mircea_popescu;dmmill_ is that a romanian flag above that door ? 744436;1404501093;dmmill_;hah thank you! 744437;1404501119;kakobrekla;and does it lead to toilet? 744438;1404501124;dmmill_;nope, it's my sister's name haha 744439;1404501130;dmmill_;leads to her bedroom 744440;1404501145;kakobrekla;well hook a sister up with some btc 744441;1404501148;mircea_popescu;ah 744442;1404501152;mircea_popescu;dmmill_ so how did you find bitcoin ? 744443;1404501185;dmmill_;wanted to stop using paypal, figured bitcoin was a good alternative 744444;1404501196;mircea_popescu;quite. 744445;1404501203;kakobrekla;like from a script. 744446;1404501203;mircea_popescu;well, if you want to do something for your future get in the wot 744447;1404501205;dmmill_;i want to get on board and try to support it so it's easier to use as an alternative 744448;1404501215;mircea_popescu;and otherwise stick around, jobs pop up here ocasionally. 744449;1404501218;dmmill_;what's the wot? why's it good for my future? 744450;1404501225;pankkake;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 744451;1404501225;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 744452;1404501250;mircea_popescu;dmmill_ wot is the web of trust. and it's good for your future because if i trust you you, you don;t have to be rich anymore. 744453;1404501253;pankkake;you should link to things, otherwise, wot's the wot, m8? 744454;1404501267;mircea_popescu;not to mention all the other people involved. 744455;1404501268;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00082537 = 14.609 BTC [+] {2} 744456;1404501280;asciilifeform;jobs pop up here ocasionally << for example, for steady hands good with microscope. 744457;1404501285;mircea_popescu;pankkake what's this, me doing all the work ? 744458;1404501330;mircea_popescu;davout_ hey i hear the german team was all sick so they sent some strippers to play france while they were in bed. 744459;1404501492;*;moiety pings a rubber glove at asciilifeform 744460;1404501564;moiety;;;later tell bingoboingo any news? i saw from logs i missed a couple later tells somehow... have they been in touch yet? 744461;1404501564;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744462;1404501702;mircea_popescu;!up Minxhibitionist 744463;1404501711;Minxhibitionist;Heyoo. 744464;1404501719;pankkake;mircea_popescu: don't forget to pay dmmill_! I don't see a tx! 744465;1404501735;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's gonna have to rebroadcast. 744466;1404501745;mircea_popescu;Minxhibitionist hey there. i assume you're here for the tits ? 744467;1404501749;pankkake;typical scammers excuse 744468;1404501753;moiety;;;later tell fluffypony sorry didn't get my later tells til 2nd scouring of the logs. i hope you like them, they are only made in this one small shop here :D it was either that or cat stickers on the parcel. is everything ok with your drive and juice and whatnot? btw cards look nice aye? 744469;1404501753;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744470;1404501767;Minxhibitionist;Yeeeah, I was here earlier. "Camerashy camwhore" ; ) I won't show my face, yadda yadda. 744471;1404501776;mircea_popescu;what;'s with this srsly! 744472;1404501784;Minxhibitionist;I'm sorry, med school! =( 744473;1404501789;mircea_popescu;pankkake seeing how their best play would be to immitate me, i'd guess that's unsurprising :D 744474;1404501799;mircea_popescu;Minxhibitionist got a link to your prev work ? 744475;1404501817;Minxhibitionist;http://www.reddit.com/user/Minxhibitionist/submitted/ 744476;1404501818;assbot;submitted by Minxhibitionist 744477;1404501853;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/LRrXZPM.jpg wth weird bra is that 744478;1404501862;Minxhibitionist;LMFAO. It's paint! 744479;1404501863;pankkake;it's paint 744480;1404501864;mircea_popescu;o it's paint huh. 744481;1404501897;mircea_popescu;anyway. how do you feel about showing your mouth only ? 744482;1404501910;Minxhibitionist;I suppose I can work that in. 744483;1404501921;mircea_popescu;aite. write 4702c8fc on your tits, and go for it. 744484;1404501939;mircea_popescu;pankkake do you see a tx now ? 744485;1404501942;pankkake;yup 744486;1404501949;kakobrekla;still a scam. 744487;1404501949;mircea_popescu;TYPICAL TROLL EXCUSE 744488;1404501955;mircea_popescu;both of you. 744489;1404501963;pankkake;kakobrekla: I'm a paid shill you know 744490;1404501974;kakobrekla;underpaid. 744491;1404501987;mircea_popescu;also underbanned. 744492;1404502007;kakobrekla;aboveregistered? 744493;1404502019;mircea_popescu;lol 744494;1404502022;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/altgonewild/comments/28kxit/first_time_here_think_it_would_still_be_pretty/ < the answer is yes 744495;1404502023;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 744496;1404502049;mircea_popescu;!up Bella_ 744497;1404502053;dmmill_;just got the bitcoins through, thanks! 744498;1404502083;mircea_popescu;http://imgur.com/a/nbKxk << look at this, dmmill_'s selling her wardrobe 744499;1404502083;assbot;bras - Imgur 744500;1404502103;mircea_popescu;does this actually work ? i remember the days of the "japan panty vending machine" hoax 744501;1404502116;thestringpuller;what was a hoax? 744502;1404502119;Bella_;hi there Mircea :) I am here about the breasts posts 744503;1404502128;mircea_popescu;!up dmmill_ 744504;1404502132;mircea_popescu;Bella_ link to your prev work ? 744505;1404502136;pankkake;anyone want to buy my worn out socks? 744506;1404502139;pankkake;they have sexy holes 744507;1404502156;mircea_popescu;pankkake do you use them to jack off inside ? 744508;1404502161;pankkake;lol, no 744509;1404502175;mircea_popescu;do you show your face ? 744510;1404502179;Bella_;http://www.cammodeldirectory.com/ads/innocent-looks-filthy-mind-naughty-kinky-little-minx-21/ 744511;1404502181;assbot;Lets play :) xx | CamModelDirectory 744512;1404502210;mircea_popescu;meh bs captcha. got anything else ? 744513;1404502221;mircea_popescu;im not encouraging cloudflare bs. 744514;1404502225;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYU-myveRtI 744515;1404502225;assbot;SensualBella Free Preview - YouTube 744516;1404502239;pankkake;didn't get the cloudflare thing myself 744517;1404502259;Bella_;What exactly do you need? 744518;1404502263;Bella_;I work on many websites 744519;1404502278;mircea_popescu;imgur or equiv ? 744520;1404502281;Bella_;sure 744521;1404502284;mircea_popescu;danke. 744522;1404502304;Bella_;http://imgur.com/a/5p7i4 744523;1404502304;assbot;Lets spend your bitcoins :) x - Imgur 744524;1404502322;Bella_;:) 744525;1404502325;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: sorry to derail you again, think I found an external solution to my nlock problem: the cardano :P 744526;1404502337;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: how ?! 744527;1404502340;mircea_popescu;Bella_ o hey, a pro. cool. 744528;1404502349;Bella_;hi there :) 744529;1404502356;*;asciilifeform thick, thinks he got it after 10 sec. or so 744530;1404502356;mircea_popescu;so write 5770cc05 on your tits, take a pic. get your face in there. 744531;1404502367;Bella_;I wont get my face in there 744532;1404502371;Bella_;wink 744533;1404502375;pankkake;lol 744534;1404502376;mircea_popescu;lmao 744535;1404502381;asciilifeform;what's with all the faceless gurlz ? 744536;1404502383;mircea_popescu;i was just about to omgwtfbbq 744537;1404502392;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform america ? i dunno. 744538;1404502405;Bella_;breasts only wasnt that the deal? 744539;1404502409;mircea_popescu;i live in an apparently parallel universe where i take womens for nude strolls through town 744540;1404502427;Bella_;okay nevermind 744541;1404502430;pankkake;but you show your face elsewhere, so that's surprising. 744542;1404502430;Bella_;have a nice day 744543;1404502431;mircea_popescu;Bella_ the problem is, i'll have to be able to identify you enough so it can't get recycled later. 744544;1404502449;pankkake;you seem to have a tattoo? can't see very well 744545;1404502465;Bella_;do you see a face here ?http://imgur.com/D6GfMIM 744546;1404502487;pankkake;but she never shows her face 744547;1404502491;mircea_popescu;no, because they're fucking nuts with the faces. 744548;1404502495;mircea_popescu;what is this thing anyway! 744549;1404502496;Bella_;its ok 744550;1404502498;Bella_;keep the bitcoins 744551;1404502499;Bella_;take care 744552;1404502506;mircea_popescu;that was weird. 744553;1404502520;pankkake;so much for pros? 744554;1404502546;mircea_popescu;i dunno what you wankers do to them, but apparently they go nuts. 744555;1404502565;kakobrekla;a pro and 0.1 btc? 744556;1404502658;chetty;bella prolly wasn't bella, couldn't show wrong face 744557;1404502670;mircea_popescu;now that's a thought. 744558;1404502715;mircea_popescu;what the fuck is kik 744559;1404502718;mircea_popescu;;;ud kik 744560;1404502719;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kik | Kik. A smartphone app that allows users to chat with eachother, for free, whether they have an iPhone, iPod Touch, Blackberry, or Android device. *Can also be ... 744561;1404502732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00008817 = 1.3226 BTC [+] {11} 744562;1404502774;pankkake;like whatsapp, the thing worth billions 744563;1404502788;pankkake;but it didn't find a sucker to buy it yet 744564;1404502802;mircea_popescu;no dude it's some sort of camwhore thing. 744565;1404502819;pankkake;maybe like snapchat then 744566;1404502827;mircea_popescu;[KIK][SNAP] Petite teen offering GFE and subscriptions ;) (self.KIKSnaps) 744567;1404502845;mircea_popescu;i wonder if gfe still means "girlfriend experience" 744568;1404503135;kakobrekla;but theres no requirement to be anybody for the job, and its hard to fake girltits with mantits 744569;1404503198;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla sooner or later a pro's gonna want to do this 50 times. 744570;1404503236;kakobrekla;the key is not long enough. 744571;1404503238;mircea_popescu;just trying to extend the window during which friendly canadian girlfriends can get a little bitcoin before the intelligence of crowds fucks things up for them. 744572;1404503245;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: or a bored kid with some image processing sk1lz and a good stash. 744573;1404503248;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla what's the key to do with it. 744574;1404503258;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform improbable that'd work. 744575;1404503271;kakobrekla;arent you putting your pubkey id or something on the skin? 744576;1404503281;kakobrekla;i havent been following 744577;1404503291;mircea_popescu;so ? mary jane comes here, gets a key, does pics, comes back, rinse and repeat. 744578;1404503303;asciilifeform;'How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?' (mr holmes) 744579;1404503357;kakobrekla;stupid bitch it is. 744580;1404503361;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/04/oh-looky/ 744581;1404503618;bitcoinpete;looking for someone to give me odds on columbia... 744582;1404503668;mircea_popescu;columbia ?! 744583;1404503729;bitcoinpete;ok colombia 744584;1404503734;bitcoinpete;on world cup 744585;1404503746;bitcoinpete;game starts in 5 744586;1404503750;mircea_popescu;oh. 744587;1404503783;mircea_popescu;i dunno, talk to moiety, she's dutch 744588;1404503802;FabianB;$traded 744589;1404503803;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE 744590;1404503803;bitcoinpete;based on food, i'd cheer for brazil 744591;1404503814;bitcoinpete;people too 744592;1404503830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 95 @ 0.028 = 2.66 BTC [+] {2} 744593;1404503832;FabianB;hmm.. all traders busy with bets n tits 744594;1404503832;bitcoinpete;and that home town thing 744595;1404503837;mircea_popescu;lol the 5btc germany made me can pay for a further 50 topless chicks 744596;1404503851;bitcoinpete;haha 744597;1404503878;bitcoinpete;can't say the germans aren't productive nao 744598;1404503961;bitcoinpete;they bought me but a single topless chik but i'll take it 744599;1404503971;bitcoinpete;s/it/her 744600;1404504066;mircea_popescu;"I'm a woman who's been at my job for 14 years now, and slowly made my way up to third-in-command. Our firm was bought out by an elderly gentleman who gave it to his 28-year-old daughter as a birthday present. So now everyone's jobs depend on the whims of this girl who has no idea how our business is run. She is very tempermental and has already fired a dozen employees that have been with us for 5 years or more, becaus 744601;1404504066;mircea_popescu;e she didn't like the way they looked at her in her skin-tight leather miniskirt, or because she wanted their job for one of her friends, or they blanched at her idea to spend $80,000 to replace all the florescent lighting in the building because it makes her "look pale". Hell, why not?" 744602;1404504123;bitcoinpete;you can't run a bizniz looking pale 744603;1404504178;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/WSJmarkets/status/485105961993248768 744604;1404504180;assbot;The Dow's climb to new heights comes as trading volume steadily shrinks: http://t.co/E9Retvhaze /search?q=%24djia&src=ctag http://t.co/YWEPYfwreS 744605;1404504242;bitcoinpete;also, this is almost too much: https://twitter.com/jennschiffer/status/484368731653799937 744606;1404504243;assbot;every time a man tells us we should dress for the job we want & not the job we have, I put on my dinosaur onesie http://t.co/abhlS5XClj 744607;1404504277;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/pettyrevenge/comments/29tk91/oh_let_me_help_you_spread_those_nasty_rumors_so/ << check out the wonderful world of femfanon. 744608;1404504277;assbot;Oh, let me help you spread those nasty rumors so you can get me "fired" and take my job. Be careful what you wish for... : pettyrevenge 744609;1404504292;pankkake;> laptop full of ugly sticks, but carefully does not cover apple logo 744610;1404504293;pankkake;DIE 744611;1404504302;pankkake;stickers* 744612;1404504318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.0279997 = 0.756 BTC [-] 744613;1404504334;mircea_popescu;pankkake 2k retweets baby 744614;1404504357;asciilifeform;phun phact. apple hardware used to (still does?) come with a set of logo stickers. so that one could uglify anything - normal laptop, car, etc. 744615;1404504369;bitcoinpete;pretty sure still does 744616;1404504376;pankkake;I've seen cars with apple logos 744617;1404504384;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/uTnfLmC.jpg 744618;1404504416;asciilifeform;'what has been seen cannot be unseen' 744619;1404504420;bitcoinpete;"i think the fedora sets it off nicely" << lol! 744620;1404504474;*;asciilifeform looks for some corpse shots from ukraine to take the edge off 744621;1404504555;pankkake;;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/04/oh-looky/ no referal? 744622;1404504555;assbot;Oh, Looky | Bingo Blog 744623;1404504555;gribble;The operation succeeded. 744624;1404504586;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/ZI8IfGf.jpg 744625;1404504600;asciilifeform;lol what are these 744626;1404504615;bitcoinpete;brazil 1 - colombia 0 744627;1404504665;mircea_popescu;i've no idea. 744628;1404505150;mircea_popescu;i'll bbl. treat the girls nicely meanwhile! 744629;1404505534;chetty;Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe has ordered the nations remaining white farmers to be booted off their farms in order that the land be given to black Zimbabweans. 744630;1404505604;bitcoinpete;isn't that like 10 years old? or more? 744631;1404505649;chetty;there were a few left, those are getting kicked out now 744632;1404505910;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 744633;1404505911;gribble;120431075.173 744634;1404505934;bitcoinpete;hm couple dozen ph added today.. 744635;1404505997;bitcoinpete;not dozen… just couple 744636;1404506284;ThickAsThieves;http://www.goxdox.org/2014/07/magicaltux-strikes-again-tibanne-takes.html 744637;1404506285;assbot;goxdox.org: MagicalTux strikes again: Tibanne takes another $200K USD from mtgox creditor funds 744638;1404506508;thestringpuller;;;estimate 744639;1404506509;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 16492255409.9 based on data since last change | 16823770134.8 based on data for last three days 744640;1404506526;thestringpuller;;;diff 744641;1404506527;gribble;1.6818461371161112E10 744642;1404506536;thestringpuller;uh wha? 744643;1404506581;ThickAsThieves;Estimated Next Difficulty:18,289,217,035 (+8.74%) 744644;1404506586;mircea_popescu;chetty schmucks didn't genocide black population when they had the chance. now they don't have the chance anymore, 744645;1404506592;mircea_popescu;and the black population ain't as schmucky. 744646;1404507246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.031 = 0.651 BTC [+] 744647;1404507375;mircea_popescu;"I've applied to 40+ positions since mid May 2014 and have only been invited to first interviews at 3 agencies. One was a waste of time and the position was already filled, the second went okay but they chose a more qualified candidate and I had to cancel the third after my rental car wouldn't start due to an issue with the anti theft device." 744648;1404507429;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00082174 = 23.5018 BTC [-] {4} 744649;1404508057;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: obligatory: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/174348 << i remember this as a bedtime story 744650;1404508058;assbot;The Cremation of Sam McGee by Robert W. Service : The Poetry Foundation 744651;1404508133;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/c0v9fb2.jpg 744652;1404508169;mircea_popescu;!up sexy_saffron 744653;1404508171;mircea_popescu;also, http://i.imgur.com/8bYxxSy.jpg 744654;1404508195;sexy_saffron;cool 744655;1404508212;mircea_popescu;you here for the titjob i take it ? 744656;1404508216;sexy_saffron;sure! 744657;1404508222;mircea_popescu;got a link to past work ? 744658;1404508236;sexy_saffron;you know it ;) www.reddit.com/r/sexy_saffron 744659;1404508291;mircea_popescu;o hey nice, a corset girl. 744660;1404508298;sexy_saffron;thanks! 744661;1404508309;mircea_popescu;ok, put 8717c805 on your tits, take a shot. make sure you get your head in there. 744662;1404508331;sexy_saffron;ok just a sec I'll take one and imgur it to you 744663;1404508358;mircea_popescu;kk. 744664;1404508366;mircea_popescu;http://sexysaffron.com/ << o look, even your own site. how's the biz ? 744665;1404508403;sexy_saffron;the business is doing great! thanks! 744666;1404508412;sexy_saffron;especially thanks to bitcoin! 744667;1404508440;mircea_popescu;the gfycat stuff is pretty slick. 744668;1404508557;mircea_popescu;i found the stuff nubbins` doesn't want us to know about. http://i.imgur.com/ZoIU5WQ.jpg 744669;1404508588;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00081533 = 13.2899 BTC [-] {2} 744670;1404508610;mircea_popescu;http://www.insideworldsoccer.com/2014/06/orin-melissa-van-lingen-salvador-brazil-san-salvador-el-salvador.html 744671;1404508610;assbot;Newlyweds planned to watch World Cup in Salvador, Brazil - ended up in San Salvador, El Salvador | inside World Soccer 744672;1404508632;nubbins`;heh 744673;1404508651;nubbins`;i might as well paste a link to havelock saying it's the stuff you don't want us to know about ;D 744674;1404508687;sexy_saffron;uploading to imgur now! 744675;1404508695;sexy_saffron;lots of pics on there too :P 744676;1404508699;mircea_popescu;nubbins` ok, fair point. i take it back. 744677;1404508705;sexy_saffron;thanks! gfycat is amazing 744678;1404508705;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 744679;1404508721;sexy_saffron;so what are these pics for anyway? 744680;1404508747;moiety;you need to do girl cut tops nubbins`! :P 744681;1404508748;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron we used to have a bot here, you'd go !boobs or something and it'd paste a tumblr pic. 744682;1404508752;mircea_popescu;but it got upgraded 744683;1404508760;nubbins`;moiety: we do occasionally :D 744684;1404508782;sexy_saffron;here's the pic! http://imgur.com/2kRGCQu 744685;1404508782;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 744686;1404508792;sexy_saffron;ah cool 744687;1404508797;mircea_popescu;good job. your address ? 744688;1404508802;pankkake;haha i love the pic 744689;1404508803;sexy_saffron;1LnFxghYfkVyH22zEdDEpsswaH6dUHfLL8 744690;1404508808;sexy_saffron;thanks! 744691;1404508809;mircea_popescu;pankkake pro's a pro. 744692;1404508820;sexy_saffron;I do custom videos for bitcoin if anyone is interested ;) 744693;1404508848;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron i am actually. here's the scoop : you ever read the last psychiatrist ? 744694;1404508854;moiety;Please let me know nubbins` i'd definitely like a b-a night set - top and/or shorts ( ok ok i know the shorts is asking too much... it's just the -assets over the ass was too much to resist XD) 744695;1404508865;pankkake;registering on the wot (http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets) might help you get some business 744696;1404508868;mircea_popescu;moiety wow what a concept. 744697;1404508875;moiety;IKR 744698;1404508884;nubbins`;check your bitcoin assets 744699;1404508895;mircea_popescu;no, "check my bitcoin assets" 744700;1404508902;moiety;#bitcoin on the lower back with matching shotes with the -assets 744701;1404508912;moiety;shorts**** 744702;1404508914;moiety;lololol 744703;1404508915;moiety;omg 744704;1404508924;sexy_saffron;I've never read that! 744705;1404508955;moiety;so every bitcoiner would also want a set for his chick right? 744706;1404508957;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron ok, he's a guy with a great blog. i want him to come here. what i want you to do is make a short, say 5 minute film, in which you beg him to come visit bitcoin-assets 744707;1404508976;mircea_popescu;hole #3, asciilifeform 744708;1404509015;sexy_saffron;I could do that! 744709;1404509030;mircea_popescu;ok. wanna work on a script ? you happy with another .1 ? 744710;1404509037;pankkake;this is quite an amazing idea 744711;1404509037;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 744712;1404509044;mircea_popescu;pankkake no ? 744713;1404509048;sexy_saffron;sure! 744714;1404509073;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron ok, you have any experience with acting ? can you adlib begging or do i have to put it in ? 744715;1404509080;sexy_saffron;you can send the script to sexy_miss_saffron@hotmail.com! 744716;1404509084;sexy_saffron;I can handle it ;) 744717;1404509086;moiety;i love the mash od + and - here in the same breath 744718;1404509088;mircea_popescu;nah i'll just put it here. 744719;1404509092;moiety;of* 744720;1404509094;sexy_saffron;I'm actually rending my 200th video right now lol 744721;1404509099;sexy_saffron;*rendering 744722;1404509123;mircea_popescu;cool. ok so : the points you have to get in there clearly visible are "#bitcoin-assets on Freenode" and "http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets" for the case he doesn't have a client 744723;1404509146;mircea_popescu;everything else is up to you, but let the guy know he has a wonderful blog, we think he's a genius and we really want him over here. go as over the top as you'd like. 744724;1404509161;*;nubbins` claps 744725;1404509169;Duffer1;i'd put .02 on that 744726;1404509169;nubbins`;;;rated mircea_popescu 744727;1404509169;gribble;You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Oct 17 15:12:06 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: patron of the arts. 744728;1404509169;moiety;is i bad i started laughing there? 744729;1404509175;moiety;it* 744730;1404509178;nubbins`;moiety, nah 744731;1404509183;mircea_popescu;moiety nope. sex is supposed to be fun. 744732;1404509191;mircea_popescu;nubbins` do i make a great leader of the free world yet or what. 744733;1404509192;moiety;hes perfect... in an instant nubbins` 744734;1404509210;nubbins`;mp, you're a few steps closer today 744735;1404509220;mircea_popescu;ah the long road to golgotha. 744736;1404509223;sexy_saffron;ok I'll add it to my schedule once you transfer the .1, how should I send you the link once it's done? 744737;1404509227;moiety;mircea_popescu: it is! why do so many forget this?! 744738;1404509237;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron you should post it here. 744739;1404509251;mircea_popescu;i don't have a problem paying in advance, but i'll require you get in the wot for it. 744740;1404509264;sexy_saffron;what is the wot? 744741;1404509272;pankkake;here: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 744742;1404509272;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 744743;1404509277;mircea_popescu;web of trust. the thing nubbins` called above to see my rating. 744744;1404509289;nubbins`;;;ident sexy_saffron 744745;1404509289;gribble;Nick 'sexy_saffron', with hostmask 'sexy_saffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified. 744746;1404509298;nubbins`;;;ident nubbins` 744747;1404509299;gribble;Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None 744748;1404509313;pankkake;nb: if you don't have a GPG key you can register with a bitcoin address 744749;1404509313;moiety;we all have them sexy_saffron :D honestly best way to go, itsa not like having it does you any harm 744750;1404509329;nubbins`;pankkake +1 744751;1404509341;pankkake;but anyway, best way to get recurring business 744752;1404509342;chetty;having a wot rating will likely get you more business 744753;1404509356;mircea_popescu;that's a definite. 744754;1404509362;moiety;i should add this shouldnt i... i fully understand i wa just being picky... i'll update the wiki 744755;1404509393;sexy_saffron;I don't mind entering your wot! 744756;1404509394;pankkake;moiety: I'm not so sure about that; actually I want to write something on why people should use GPG vs bitcoin for signing things 744757;1404509409;pankkake;but yes, if it makes more people sign up 744758;1404509415;mircea_popescu;moiety i loved the picky, but irl people aren't all that well equipped to drop gpg in. 744759;1404509420;nubbins`;less of a barrier to entry 744760;1404509422;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron so then go for it. 744761;1404509452;sexy_saffron;ya I'd rather do bitcoin address, I can generate those super quick 744762;1404509467;moiety;well this is what i was thining pankkake ... i left it out because i felt it actually went against my reasoning for setting up gpg and i dont want to sound hypocritical. wee bit on the end or should leave as is? 744763;1404509486;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron mind that you can never lose it 744764;1404509490;mircea_popescu;or you lose your identity. 744765;1404509498;mircea_popescu;and while at it, register your nick with nickserv. 744766;1404509522;moiety;mircea_popescu: thing is though... i feel anyways, if they took ten minutes to learn btc, they cant take ten to learn gpg? especially if it supports their business in the way their clients seek? 744767;1404509524;pankkake;moiety: you can say "you can generate a gpg key later and use your existing bitcoin address right now" 744768;1404509525;mircea_popescu;it goes like /msg nickserv register to quote an earlier girl. 744769;1404509539;mircea_popescu;moiety a first time keygen is > 10 minutes. 744770;1404509544;mircea_popescu;then there's the keyserver upload. 744771;1404509552;pankkake;gpg requires finding the appropriate GUIs too 744772;1404509553;moiety;ooooh like that pankkake 744773;1404509581;moiety;also would it be helpful if i offered block change + step by step on a disk or usb? 744774;1404509585;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron how did you find bitcoin anyway ? 744775;1404509609;pankkake;block change? 744776;1404509617;moiety;exchange* not change* ...block change might be an interesting view tho?! 744777;1404509639;pankkake;I don't understand it either :p 744778;1404509653;moiety;like not even exchange whats the word... just the chain 744779;1404509669;moiety;so like for total noobs 744780;1404509687;sexy_saffron;bitcoin is just the best way to do business, hands down 744781;1404509694;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YK9P52.txt ) 744782;1404509694;pankkake;!b 1 744783;1404509694;moiety;youd get a step by step with a cd or usb rather than links that so many seem allergic to 744784;1404509709;sexy_saffron;it was a logical choice as a payment processor 744785;1404509712;mircea_popescu;atta girl. 744786;1404509722;mircea_popescu;keep at this you'll end up my image lmao. 744787;1404509738;sexy_saffron;awesome! 744788;1404509747;pankkake;moiety: I see, bundling the required applications etc. I've seen the idea in practice, it's good, hovewer it puts a lot of trust in you providing non-malicious binaries 744789;1404509751;sexy_saffron;but what are you collecting the pics for? 744790;1404509770;moiety;why doesn anyone do anything? 744791;1404509780;mircea_popescu;im not collecting the pix. couldn't care less, really. 744792;1404509799;sexy_saffron;so whats the significance of the code? 744793;1404509801;pankkake;he's just trying to be more eccentric than usual 744794;1404509834;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744256 << there, answered before. in the logs :D 744795;1404509834;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 744796;1404509834;moiety;pankkake: aye but i thought about this... the peple buying are noobs yes? most likely...or they wouldnt need the chain. so in all reality they are either not going to realise they need to trust me... or trust me due to why ive told them 744797;1404509851;pankkake;moiety: yes, indeed 744798;1404509872;moiety;the best businessmen take the plunge, aye? 744799;1404509876;mircea_popescu;* sexy_saffron (8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5) has joined #bitcoin-assets << and the code is just some random stuff webirc spits out 744800;1404509902;sexy_saffron;ah ok 744801;1404509930;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5458 @ 0.00082117 = 4.4819 BTC [+] 744802;1404509942;mircea_popescu;pankkake there's nothing usual about me! 744803;1404509960;moiety;well pankkake this is hat they tell themselves.. and we dont care how good they are, as long as they can treat bitcoin well ... implement it and encourage their friends... yeah? 744804;1404509970;moiety;what* 744805;1404509978;sexy_saffron;I tell all the reddit girls to use bitcoin 744806;1404509980;pankkake;you know, one of the best insults (well, it was friendly) I ever received was "you're not that unusual actually" 744807;1404509988;pankkake;she was so proud of it :) 744808;1404509993;*;moiety gasps 744809;1404509996;pankkake;!up sexy_saffron 744810;1404510010;moiety;dude... people that are proud of their insults usually have no reason to be that way 744811;1404510052;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.034 = 0.51 BTC [-] 744812;1404510056;moiety;public insults* totally a difference 744813;1404510085;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 744814;1404510088;mircea_popescu;!up sexy_saffron 744815;1404510092;pankkake;what are you doing ChanServ?! 744816;1404510093;mircea_popescu;chanserv you being a bad boy ? 744817;1404510112;mircea_popescu;is this kakotrolling ? 744818;1404510114;moiety;chanserv just liks to stir.. i am sure of it 744819;1404510195;thestringpuller;https://www.massdrop.com/buy/exuvius-multi-tool-collar-stays?mode=guest_open 744820;1404510196;assbot;Exuvius Multi-Tool Collar Stays (4-Pack) - Massdrop 744821;1404510205;sexy_saffron;;;eregister sexy_saffron 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT 744822;1404510205;gribble;Error: '1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. 744823;1404510256;sexy_saffron;it won't let me register with a bitcoin public address :( 744824;1404510262;mircea_popescu;you want ;;bcregister 744825;1404510263;thestringpuller;;;bcregister 744826;1404510264;gribble;(bcregister ) -- Register your identity, associating bitcoin address key with . should be a standard-type bitcoin address, starting with 1. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address key, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. 744827;1404510267;sexy_saffron;ah 744828;1404510274;mircea_popescu;;;eregister is for gpg 744829;1404510278;sexy_saffron;;;bcregister sexy_saffron 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT 744830;1404510279;gribble;Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexy_saffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7583d0f0d3507e7c987b8206989e5f95b31a26bd74ae7ec143b26c24 744831;1404510282;sexy_saffron;done! 744832;1404510291;FabianB;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication 744833;1404510293;assbot;Bitcoin address authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 744834;1404510298;pankkake;you need to confirm the address is yours 744835;1404510300;thestringpuller;you gotta run bcverify now 744836;1404510302;mircea_popescu;;;ident sexy_saffron 744837;1404510302;gribble;Nick 'sexy_saffron', with hostmask 'sexy_saffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified. 744838;1404510310;thestringpuller;;;bcverify 744839;1404510310;gribble;(bcverify ) -- Verify the latest authentication request by providing the which contains the challenge string signed with your bitcoin address of record. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter). 744840;1404510312;moiety;sexy_saffron: you alright love?! never mind the -v and +v but this is another good idea why its no dear... see the challenge string... copy it and go decrypt it with cmd 744841;1404510328;pankkake;with bitcoin, you can only sign 744842;1404510336;thestringpuller;easy to sign with bitcoin 744843;1404510341;thestringpuller;signmessage 744844;1404510344;pankkake;whereas gpg auth provides both sig and decrypt methods 744845;1404510350;moiety;its the same thing though no, just wallet? 744846;1404510352;FabianB;see in the samples section of http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication 744847;1404510354;assbot;Bitcoin address authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 744848;1404510392;moiety;ok ok im adding a btc addressbit to my first steps...*disclaimer* wont be as holdy handy as the gpg 744849;1404510428;sexy_saffron;;;bcverify GywpdNN8x7MfYwqkZL48GXbKqdB6YBSQt7/F8SfEM0c7GnZXGIDO3kcVjDWJP4ca4waXGOcLWbzMT/GclQSDuL0= 744850;1404510430;gribble;Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT 744851;1404510433;sexy_saffron;woot! 744852;1404510433;mircea_popescu;o hey wd. 744853;1404510442;pankkake;yay 744854;1404510442;mircea_popescu;;;rate sexy_saffron 1 Pro fetish model. 744855;1404510444;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user sexy_saffron has been recorded. 744856;1404510450;mircea_popescu;now you can even self-voice in here. 744857;1404510463;sexy_saffron;hooray! 744858;1404510477;mircea_popescu;ok so, .1 again to the same addy for the tlp beg film ? 744859;1404510486;moiety;yay good for you sexy_saffron :D 744860;1404510486;pankkake;;;rate sexy_saffron 1 delivers cute and sexy pictures 744861;1404510487;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user sexy_saffron has been recorded. 744862;1404510504;mircea_popescu;and use gfycat, it's great. 744863;1404510513;mircea_popescu;o no shit, it doesn't have sound. nm me. 744864;1404510516;sexy_saffron;sure! I'll put it in my schedule for shooting tomorrow! 744865;1404510524;moiety;im totally not in the huff pankkake totally not bothered 744866;1404510532;sexy_saffron;I'll just come back here with a dropbox link 744867;1404510544;sexy_saffron;any particular outfit ideas? 744868;1404510566;mircea_popescu;not really, whatever you feel like, but give a good show. 744869;1404510573;moiety;just get a pi nd hold everything yourself 744870;1404510577;mircea_popescu;i wanna impress this guy. 744871;1404510591;sexy_saffron;sounds good ;) 744872;1404510599;pankkake;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/ 744873;1404510600;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist 744874;1404510633;mircea_popescu;that's him. drop by when it's done, proly have more work for you then. 744875;1404510671;sexy_saffron;cool, you guys can buy my videos with bitcoin too if you'd like, here's my clipstore: www.clips4sale.com/74849 744876;1404510678;sexy_saffron;I do lots of sales on my subbreddit too 744877;1404510711;mircea_popescu;how long you been at this btw ? 744878;1404510723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13364 @ 0.00082175 = 10.9819 BTC [+] {2} 744879;1404510725;pankkake;" Foot Smelling Blowjob After a Run " not my fetish, but I just love those kind of weird things :D 744880;1404510746;sexy_saffron;6 months! 744881;1404510762;mircea_popescu;pankkake you told me you had all of them. i demand my boney mack! i was bamboozled and misdirected. 744882;1404510770;sexy_saffron;I love weird videos too! My balloon boob videos have been really popular 744883;1404510778;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron you're incredibly smooth. all you or do you have a manger with some experience behind you ? 744884;1404510785;pankkake;I don't think I ever said that. I have many, and I am curious about all of them 744885;1404510789;sexy_saffron;nope, just me and my husband! 744886;1404510799;sexy_saffron;making porn in our tiny appartment! 744887;1404510802;mircea_popescu;well, keep at it. 744888;1404510823;sexy_saffron;will do ;) 744889;1404510829;mircea_popescu;it's a dying thing, supposedly, but you're in a position to roll with the best of em, so. 744890;1404510833;pankkake;"Watch as I blow my full nose into a few tissues" just awesome lol 744891;1404510839;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3TV9YQJ.txt ) 744892;1404510839;thestringpuller;!bash 5 744893;1404510843;sexy_saffron;not even close to the weirdest one lol 744894;1404510908;pankkake;ok, I found one I might like, but I'm not saying which :p 744895;1404510920;mircea_popescu;pankkake also careful not to show your face. 744896;1404510931;mircea_popescu;this shit matters. 744897;1404510948;pankkake;there actually was a picture of me naked (no penis though) on the internet, with face 744898;1404511025;moiety;in what alternate universe or were you a minor pankkake 744899;1404511039;pankkake;lol wat 744900;1404511053;pankkake;it was for a calendar promo 744901;1404511055;moiety;i just cant belive you did that XD 744902;1404511084;moiety;a calendar for what tho?! penii? 744903;1404511102;pankkake;it's actually great; you feel really good about your body afterwards 744904;1404511111;pankkake;more people should do (semi)pro shoots 744905;1404511160;moiety;i almost did but i htought yous would be like..err mo gtfo pls kthx 744906;1404511175;kakobrekla; there actually was a picture of me naked (no penis though) on the internet, with face < mine is still online 744907;1404511182;moiety;hey my benkay has rearry improved! 744908;1404511196;pankkake;I didn't say yes right away but he showed me his work, was a really nice person 744909;1404511207;pankkake;kakobrekla: url? 744910;1404511225;kakobrekla;https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/377444742/tic.jpg 744911;1404511237;pankkake;lol 744912;1404511247;sexy_saffron;time to go make hamburgers so I'm off, but feel free to stop by my subbreddit and say hi! :) 744913;1404511252;moiety;dude he wont even let a reflection capture him at this point in life 744914;1404511266;pankkake;bon appetit 744915;1404511276;jurov;nubbins url? 744916;1404511300;jurov;er.. pankkake 744917;1404511309;moiety;was nice meeting you sexy_saffron :] enjoy your tea! 744918;1404511333;sexy_saffron;thanks, you too! cya! 744919;1404511343;pankkake;I only have the raw shots left, the image that was selected I didn't even save it 744920;1404511364;moiety;its ok, its in his personal collection im betting 744921;1404511387;moiety;because..always backups 744922;1404511407;moiety;see rolf harris got 5 years 9 months today 744923;1404511413;moiety;unrelated obviously 744924;1404511420;moiety;maybe i dunno 744925;1404511434;moiety;pankkake: we have people you can talk to 744926;1404511448;pankkake;for what? 744927;1404511454;moiety;issues 744928;1404511464;pankkake;lol 744929;1404511490;moiety;i jut playing 744930;1404511497;moiety;but are you serious? 744931;1404511522;pankkake;yes, it was for those black-and-white calendar with naked men everyone was doing at the time 744932;1404511527;moiety;just realised pankkake probably wasnt the one to ask a serious question to 744933;1404511555;pankkake;it was my piercer's and he did it once a year with his best-looking clients 744934;1404511576;moiety;imma need proof 744935;1404511585;moiety;:] 744936;1404511614;moiety;the calendar would be fine 744937;1404511626;pankkake;the website doesn't exist anymore 744938;1404511633;moiety;i also take email attachments just so the channel knows 744939;1404511642;moiety;well thats fail 744940;1404511687;moiety;youre so hard to play with pankkake but so much fun cus i never know whos trolling the other the most 744941;1404511843;mircea_popescu; it's actually great; you feel really good about your body afterwards more people should do (semi)pro shoots <<< he has a point. 744942;1404511866;pankkake;https://unsee.cc/rubigeso/ here is 25% of what is close to the selected picture 744943;1404511866;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 744944;1404511885;mircea_popescu;moiety you feeling tempted ? 744945;1404511917;pankkake;it seems to be a custom occurence in some countries, like russia 744946;1404511947;pankkake;where you put good pro-made pics, not drunken pics, on your social profiles 744947;1404511972;pankkake;s/custom/common/ is what I meant I suppose 744948;1404512009;jurov;http://boingboing.net/2014/07/03/if-you-read-boing-boing-the-n.html 744949;1404512009;assbot;If you read Boing Boing, the NSA considers you a target for deep surveillance - Boing Boing 744950;1404512029;mircea_popescu;aqhaha nice kakobrekla 744951;1404512169;mircea_popescu; it was my piercer's and he did it once a year with his best-looking clients << pankkake has a prince albert ? 744952;1404512194;pankkake;I used to have an industrial (bar through the ear) 744953;1404512264;mircea_popescu;why so many piercing stories start with "i used to" ? 744954;1404512305;pankkake;;) 744955;1404512353;moiety;tempted by the offer you mean mircea? i was borderline but if youre not acceptable irl .. i dun think you are online either - may need clarification from pankkake's photographer ;P 744956;1404512405;mircea_popescu;wait wut 744957;1404512430;mircea_popescu;moiety i jus' meant, do you want to add your tits to my post ? 744958;1404512431;moiety;also what piercings do you have pankkake? 744959;1404512457;pankkake;only the industrial which is fully closed by now 744960;1404512477;moiety;mircea_popescu: i was just kidding about pankkake .. i just meant if youre useless to people irl, youe not going to have the desired effect in a pic online either 744961;1404512491;pankkake;did it mostly because I was curious, I don't like most piercings on men 744962;1404512513;mircea_popescu;moiety ok ill ask you again after you have a couple more drinks 744963;1404512528;moiety;ikr? i dont know why but im the same. looks weird for me to see a belly piercing on a dude 744964;1404512547;pankkake;lol, yeah, that one certainly is not masculine 744965;1404512560;mircea_popescu;why should it be masculine ? 744966;1404512669;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/libertyworldproblems/ 744967;1404512670;assbot;Liberty World Problems 744968;1404512673;moiety;it doesnt have to be... just if your tastes are being thrown onto the bed, you might not want someone with a prettier jewellry cabinet doing it? i'll just stfu now lol 744969;1404512682;mircea_popescu;so is this basically three guys and a dog being ironic and shit ? 744970;1404512687;moiety;i think i should have internet docked fri-sun pls 744971;1404512873;moiety;i dunno but i just replied to one of their threads 744972;1404512880;mircea_popescu;WASHINGTON Just weeks before Blackwater guards fatally shot 17 civilians at Baghdads Nisour Square in 2007, the State Department began investigating the security contractors operations in Iraq. But the inquiry was abandoned after Blackwaters top manager there issued a threat: that he could kill the governments chief investigator and no one could or would do anything about it as we were in Iraq, 744973;1404512881;mircea_popescu; according to department reports. 744974;1404512917;mircea_popescu;American Embassy officials in Baghdad sided with Blackwater rather than the State Department investigators as a dispute over the probe escalated in August 2007, the previously undisclosed documents show. The officials told the investigators that they had disrupted the embassys relationship with the security contractor and ordered them to leave the country, according to the reports. 744975;1404512938;mircea_popescu;After returning to Washington, the chief investigator wrote a scathing report to State Department officials documenting misconduct by Blackwater employees and warning that lax oversight of the company, which had a contract worth more than $1 billion to protect American diplomats, had created an environment full of liability and negligence. 744976;1404513163;Duffer1;did someone honestly expect things that to go any other way? 744977;1404513192;Duffer1;-that 744978;1404513324;moiety;i'd be interested in the undocumented things 744979;1404513363;Duffer1;get the guys from VICE interested, honey badgers of news 744980;1404513562;pankkake;!up RagnarsBitch 744981;1404514078;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.035 = 1.365 BTC [+] {3} 744982;1404515210;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "LTC to fall against BTC" http://bitbet.us/bet/864/ Odds: 84(Y):16(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.13865103 BTC. Current weight: 80,921. 744983;1404515211;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.23713184 BTC for No on "LTC to $15USD or above before August 3rd" http://bitbet.us/bet/855/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.18913185 BTC. Current weight: 33,335. 744984;1404516335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19 = 0.57 BTC [+] 744985;1404516458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17770 @ 0.0008238 = 14.6389 BTC [+] {2} 744986;1404516518;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00082183 = 11.7111 BTC [-] {2} 744987;1404517311;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00082154 = 8.6262 BTC [-] {2} 744988;1404517757;kyuupichan;Silly me for thinking diff might actually drop this time 744989;1404518518;cazalla;mircea_popescu: i didn't find the pics save worthy tbh, curious about the stretch marks on fulloffantasies though, never seen a woman with many on her legs yet none on belly 744990;1404518547;cazalla;seeing that i'm not paying, didn't make sense to open my mouth while she was here 744991;1404518643;kyuupichan;That EBA document is good for the lulz. They're so cocksure of the advantages of fiat that they can't see the steamroller headed their way. 744992;1404518653;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03510002 = 0.5265 BTC [-] {3} 744993;1404518958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.19999998 = 5 BTC [+] {5} 744994;1404520056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00081534 = 24.2971 BTC [-] {2} 744995;1404520788;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2658 @ 0.00082032 = 2.1804 BTC [+] 744996;1404521093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20504 @ 0.00082168 = 16.8477 BTC [+] 744997;1404521947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 188 @ 0.03213775 = 6.0419 BTC [-] {8} 744998;1404522130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 149 @ 0.01027226 = 1.5306 BTC [-] {11} 744999;1404522252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.03 = 1.11 BTC [-] 745000;1404522496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00082381 = 5.6843 BTC [+] 745001;1404522862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18689 @ 0.00082353 = 15.391 BTC [-] 745002;1404522923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 118 @ 0.0070009 = 0.8261 BTC [-] {6} 745003;1404524021;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00082168 = 6.6556 BTC [-] 745004;1404527681;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00081911 = 26.9487 BTC [-] {3} 745005;1404528136;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.11111111 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/776/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 37(Y):63(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.59652523 BTC. Current weight: 57,431. 745006;1404528335;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.11111111 BTC for No on "Iron Ore 62% Fe, CFR China (TSI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/775/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.82548116 BTC. Current weight: 57,430. 745007;1404528413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.03599677 = 1.1159 BTC [+] {2} 745008;1404528505;kyuupichan;%d 745009;1404528506;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 561318.11 in 1868 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -28.51 745010;1404528535;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03599856 = 0.648 BTC [+] {2} 745011;1404529199;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan kinda how the shit works. 745012;1404529272;mircea_popescu;cazalla afaik women mostly get that around puberty and during pregnancy. maybe her thighs grew suddenly. 745013;1404529462;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/umUcoSE 745014;1404529462;assbot;puzzle - Imgur 745015;1404529489;asciilifeform;^ photo taken several hours ago at the washington 'independence day' fest. find the three interesting things. 745016;1404529511;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03614338 = 0.6144 BTC [+] {2} 745017;1404529522;punkman1;good logs today 745018;1404529572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00081946 = 5.7772 BTC [+] 745019;1404529572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.03699999 = 0.851 BTC [+] {3} 745020;1404529618;punkman1;asciilifeform: what's that pan under the car 745021;1404529635;asciilifeform;we have one winner. 745022;1404529643;asciilifeform;army truck leaks oil, clearly. 745023;1404529704;mircea_popescu;jesus 745024;1404529715;dignork;no license plate on army vehicle? 745025;1404529730;mircea_popescu;o look, the red star came back ?! 745026;1404529742;asciilifeform;dignork: over here they only have to have one on the boot 745027;1404529789;cazalla;is the windscreen broken or is that something else 745028;1404529799;cazalla;cracked i should say 745029;1404529811;asciilifeform;plastic. 745030;1404529828;dignork;asciilifeform have a horrible camera? 745031;1404529836;asciilifeform;that goes without saying 745032;1404529935;mircea_popescu;it's not the camera, it's the operator :D 745033;1404530005;dignork;HF/VHF radio? 745034;1404530025;asciilifeform;how'd that be interesting 745035;1404530029;thestringpuller;the good tjhleaga.lel,df,de,hnf.ne 745036;1404530060;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5295 @ 0.00081802 = 4.3314 BTC [-] 745037;1404530109;dignork;asciilifeform: I'd assume in the city they'd use UHF 745038;1404530139;asciilifeform;that thing comes with the truck. almost bought precisely this truck once, at a surplus shop - it was advertised at 700 usd. 745039;1404530188;dub;theres a guy in the back talking to the crackhoes 745040;1404530198;mircea_popescu;they';re expensiuve to upkeep tho 745041;1404530203;asciilifeform;aye 745042;1404530214;asciilifeform;prehistoric machine, for aficionados. 745043;1404530223;mircea_popescu;dub you know, not any poor/minority people you see are autpmatically on drugs. 745044;1404530241;asciilifeform;in entirely unrelated news, 745045;1404530242;asciilifeform;http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/xkeyscorerules100.txt 745046;1404530247;dub;look at homie on he left, his mind = blown 745047;1404530274;mircea_popescu;he was just born thay wat 745048;1404530301;dub;is it actually army? googling the tag on the front doesnt bring anythign current 745049;1404530329;asciilifeform;dub: those aren't hoes, that's what actual gurlz look like in this town... 745050;1404530334;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform are these people basically running php ? 745051;1404530384;dignork;mircea_popescu: looks like some rule-based grammar 745052;1404530390;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not exactly. custom gizmo. 745053;1404530412;mircea_popescu;dignork designed by fucktards. all the explicit switches in the code, "these ips for fvey" "these ips for non fvey" "hey i just coded this shit one weekend" 745054;1404530429;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes. my point being, that it's ... basically... php. 745055;1404530483;asciilifeform;this was clearly written by a sysop. or a similar figure, who sits around and waits to be asked to add in case-by-case gibblets. 745056;1404530524;mircea_popescu;im just looking at your "these are mingblowingly smart people" thesis paper. 745057;1404530538;mircea_popescu;and drawing small fs all around 745058;1404530547;dub;probably evolved out of carnivore or earlier 745059;1404530552;asciilifeform;if usg employs thinking people, they did not write this. 745060;1404530583;asciilifeform;what, if anything, they are paid to do - remains an enigma 745061;1404530598;mircea_popescu;how about "they are paid to support their famblies and the american way" 745062;1404530609;asciilifeform;lol 745063;1404530625;asciilifeform;to be fair this is precisely the kind of turd i would order 'leaked' as a hangout op 745064;1404530631;punkman1;that looks like C++ 745065;1404530633;dub;this smells like bs 745066;1404530657;dub;right at the top so there is no mistaking, the bits about how its not targetign five eyes partners 745067;1404530663;mircea_popescu;dub precisely. 745068;1404530674;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform right 745069;1404530704;mircea_popescu;for that matter, the crap is probably written in lisp 745070;1404530708;mircea_popescu;and i don't mean golang. 745071;1404530824;asciilifeform;this snippet is oddly reminiscent of the wretched truck 745072;1404530839;asciilifeform;with its chalk-marked regiment number 745073;1404530869;asciilifeform;leaking engine, b0rked parking brake (note the block under front wheel) 745074;1404531033;kakobrekla;just put it into gear? 745075;1404531073;asciilifeform;you'd think. 745076;1404531103;kakobrekla;what, gears dont work as well? 745077;1404531118;punkman1;irc logs from 1991: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/communications/logs/Gulf-War/desert-storm/ 745078;1404531118;assbot;Index of /pub/academic/communications/logs/Gulf-War/desert-storm/ 745079;1404531122;mircea_popescu;ya srsly wtf is that. 745080;1404531128;asciilifeform;probably the 3-ring binder says 'if parking lever is b0rked, use block under wheel...' 745081;1404531148;mircea_popescu;the transmission of that thing is so heavy should keep it bolted down 745082;1404531156;mircea_popescu;hm 745083;1404531274;mircea_popescu;#banshee# On a lighter note. IRC record. 251 users. :) 745084;1404531275;mircea_popescu;lolk 745085;1404531339;mircea_popescu;TAILs (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) software program, a comsec mechanism advocated by extremists on extremist forums. 745086;1404531349;mircea_popescu;ok, so what's the tails backdoor ? 745087;1404531364;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's a bog-standard 'linux live cd' with a copy of tor. 745088;1404531370;mircea_popescu;a so tor. 745089;1404531401;asciilifeform;idea being, tor for the morbidly lazy 745090;1404531404;mircea_popescu;and word('linux' 745091;1404531404;mircea_popescu;or ' USB ' or ' CD ' or 'secure desktop' or ' IRC ' or 'truecrypt' or ' tor '); 745092;1404531407;mircea_popescu;lol ok. 745093;1404531421;mircea_popescu;' CD ' and ' IRC ' but 'truecrypt' 745094;1404531431;mircea_popescu;because space padding is now... half a thing 745095;1404531446;mircea_popescu;you telling me i just found a bug in teh code ? me ? 745096;1404531465;asciilifeform;' IRC ' is to avoid matching 'mircea', lol 745097;1404531525;*;mircea_popescu pulls dagger from his back 745098;1404532054;mircea_popescu;!up aabtc 745099;1404532088;aabtc;:) 745100;1404532161;mircea_popescu;"That's great, I love your show Max Stacy, you're changing how people think and hence changing the world. 745101;1404532161;mircea_popescu;I'm just a young Canadian maintenance professional buying a little gold and Bitcoin every month getting ready for the market crash to happen within 5 years. Then I'll buy a nice Audi R8 from a desperate kleptocrat" 745102;1404532201;mircea_popescu;yeah dude, totally. an exterminator from misisiauga is going to buy an audi r8 from a "desperate kleptocrat" through the magic of max keiser's. 745103;1404532282;aabtc;max lost a lot of his relevance pumping shitcoins :/ 745104;1404532296;aabtc;mircea_popescu: what happened to your twitter? 745105;1404532332;mircea_popescu;afaik a buncha redditards bitched at twitter which suspended it. 745106;1404532378;aabtc;loool 745107;1404532383;aabtc;over that andreas thing? 745108;1404532419;aabtc;hahaha 'we did it reddit!' 745109;1404532623;mircea_popescu;twas getting stale tbh. 745110;1404534472;mircea_popescu;!up atian 745111;1404534574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39762 @ 0.00081822 = 32.5341 BTC [+] {4} 745112;1404537015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29552 @ 0.00081816 = 24.1783 BTC [-] {2} 745113;1404537075;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.00082192 = 7.9356 BTC [+] 745114;1404537502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19949985 = 0.5985 BTC [-] {2} 745115;1404538307;artifexd;;;later tell kakobrekla I see you fixed the ampersand thing. Cool. Thanks. 745116;1404538308;gribble;The operation succeeded. 745117;1404539149;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30646 @ 0.00081706 = 25.0396 BTC [-] 745118;1404540613;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00081705 = 30.1491 BTC [-] {2} 745119;1404542260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 157 @ 0.18203808 = 28.58 BTC [-] {17} 745120;1404542321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.18063199 = 4.5158 BTC [-] {4} 745121;1404542687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00081869 = 7.2045 BTC [+] 745122;1404542992;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25380 @ 0.00082006 = 20.8131 BTC [+] {4} 745123;1404543785;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3620 @ 0.00082478 = 2.9857 BTC [+] 745124;1404543974;kyuupichan;So I can now buy about 3m DOGE for 1 BTC? I'd rather have the BTC I think. 745125;1404544822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 49 @ 0.01668172 = 0.8174 BTC [+] {3} 745126;1404544823;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00081696 = 13.7249 BTC [-] 745127;1404545914;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.7 BTC for Yes on "LTC to fall against BTC" http://bitbet.us/bet/864/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 89(Y):11(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.83865103 BTC. Current weight: 80,752. 745128;1404546347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 745129;1404548970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 78 @ 0.03662819 = 2.857 BTC [+] {5} 745130;1404549589;FabianB;$traded 745131;1404549589;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE 745132;1404554460;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00081696 = 4.3299 BTC [-] 745133;1404555192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.0008155 = 21.4884 BTC [-] {3} 745134;1404555481;jurov;!t m f.mpif 745135;1404555482;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021662 / 0.00023849 (11155 shares, 2.42 BTC) 745136;1404557022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4854 @ 0.00081457 = 3.9539 BTC [-] 745137;1404557083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17912 @ 0.0008144 = 14.5875 BTC [-] 745138;1404557144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00081436 = 9.4873 BTC [-] 745139;1404557693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00081599 = 27.5397 BTC [+] {2} 745140;1404559340;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00081429 = 7.98 BTC [-] {2} 745141;1404559547;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "LTC to fall against BTC" http://bitbet.us/bet/864/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.83865103 BTC. Current weight: 80,677. 745142;1404559950;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081278 = 9.9972 BTC [-] 745143;1404560987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00081278 = 4.5516 BTC [-] 745144;1404561292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0345 = 0.759 BTC [-] 745145;1404561626;cazalla;!up ninjashogun 745146;1404561643;cazalla;what did you fuck up this time 745147;1404561826;FabianB;pasted his nickserv pw into -otc 745148;1404561848;cazalla;topkek 745149;1404561867;ninjashogun;lol yeah, luckily they're nice people and changed it for me rather than troll. can't imagine what would have happened in tihs channel. 745150;1404561906;ninjashogun;it's kind of weird how you guys have all the money, and they're the ones who are serious. 745151;1404561933;dub;nice password 745152;1404561944;chetty;actually someone did the pw thing yesterday and it was nicely pointed out they should now change their pw 745153;1404562230;FabianB;!up Dekker3D 745154;1404562239;Dekker3D;Thanks, FabianB 745155;1404562253;FabianB;np 745156;1404562269;moiety;hello all 745157;1404562278;moiety;quite scared to look at the logs 745158;1404562299;FabianB;why? 745159;1404562302;Dekker3D;Why are the logs scary? Strange things going bump in the night? 745160;1404562331;FabianB;don't think so 745161;1404562341;ninjashogun;who wants to make a multiple return on $30K. You're welcome to bid or ask questions. Low multiple bids likely to win. http://pastebin.com/gMF5WRuP 745162;1404562341;assbot;Ninjashogun prospectus - 04-07-2014 Key facts: Through Saturday, July 5, 2 - Pastebin.com 745163;1404562347;cazalla;today has been quiet 745164;1404562356;ninjashogun;cazalla, welll, here you go then :) 745165;1404562386;cazalla;where do i send the money? 745166;1404562388;ninjashogun;I mean "low-multiple bids", e.g. not something crazy like a very high number of x. However, I realize that the istuation may be seen to include some risk, so bid whatever you want. 745167;1404562423;ninjashogun;cazalla - we can talk about it. We can actually escrow it, you can send it straight to some of the legal services involved, when I meet with VC's (you can come!) you can pay for some of the costs, and legal review of the closing docs we're given. These are the major expenses. 745168;1404562439;FabianB;1 dogecent for 20% 745169;1404562466;ninjashogun;Oh, no the bid is on $30K, what multpile covers your risk (and a timeframe). I can tell you more about both comapnies of course - and feel free to PM. 745170;1404562514;ninjashogun;For some reference, to set expectations, in the other channel (-otc) I've gotten bids on part of the money as low as 1.6x. However, the starting bid for the whole thing was something crazy. 745171;1404562658;Dekker3D;Could someone voice indiancandy1 again? 745172;1404562663;Dekker3D;She's the same one from last time. 745173;1404562746;Dekker3D;FabianB, could you voice her? 745174;1404562774;cazalla;!up indiancandy1 745175;1404562785;Dekker3D;As far as I know, mircea's "anyway, drop your address" means that she should put her bitcoin address in here, anywhere. I'd write it for her, but it's more trustworthy if I just vouch for her and she writes it 745176;1404563025;indiancandy1;1C2GHDcNxzZfnVBD9EyY95WPuhXtatJDfa 745177;1404563199;Dekker3D;By the way, if I may ask: is the whole "0.1 btc for a pic of tits" thing like a promotional stunt to get hot chicks in here, or is it just what it says it is? 745178;1404563326;chetty;Dekker3D, I think only MP can answer about the true purpose of what he does 745179;1404563358;FabianB;Dekker3D: maybe reading http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744652 helps 745180;1404563359;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 745181;1404563400;indiancandy1;yh 745182;1404563408;indiancandy1;ask chetty 745183;1404563409;indiancandy1;shes chool 745184;1404563435;Dekker3D;Ah. She knows more about mircea's shenanigans then? 745185;1404563496;chetty;ninjashogun, I cant see why anyone would put money into "Both businesses are stealth, however a bit can be discussed publicly:" 745186;1404563512;FabianB;asciilifeform: did you have a look at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mycelium-entropy ? 745187;1404563512;assbot;Mycelium Entropy | Indiegogo 745188;1404563727;punkman;!up ninjashogun 745189;1404563756;Dekker3D;It seems I can register on the web of trust using a bitcoin address instead of a gpg key? 745190;1404563763;FabianB;yes 745191;1404563788;Dekker3D;How would I do that? Do I need to extract my private key from my wallet to sign something? because I'm using Mycelium. 745192;1404563789;FabianB;if you have bitcoin-qt for example and can sign with the address 745193;1404563795;Dekker3D;Ah. 745194;1404563807;FabianB;dunno mycelium 745195;1404563819;Dekker3D;It doesn't do message signing 745196;1404563838;Dekker3D;But at least I suppose it can make things easier for indiancandy1. She has a blockchain.info wallet 745197;1404563873;cazalla;are you her pimp or something? 745198;1404563880;Dekker3D;I'm her tech dude 745199;1404563884;ninjashogun;thanks. They're both high-tech startups, albeit of two different kinds. The public pastebin doesn't include too much informatoin but of course I expect you to learn about both. They're both just doing their seed rounds now - the first acutaly already has assigned IP, etc, and has developed (the basics of) interesting technology. As it's hardware, it's quite hard to seed and we need to keep vigilant about stealth but I c 745200;1404563884;ninjashogun;an tell a bit more to anyone who's interested. 745201;1404563886;Dekker3D;Here on the internet, the difference is tiny :P 745202;1404563920;ninjashogun;The second one is in a really huge market - even before it had a NAME it had offers at high six-figure valuations, however I wanted to be able to pursue both of them. 745203;1404563942;ninjashogun;The second is a services / consulting company in the field of jobs. cf. hired.com 745204;1404563951;Dekker3D;She'll need to exchange bitcoin for gbp at some point, which would likely require #bitcoin-otc. Which requires registration in the web of trust, afaik. And if she wants to earn more with shenanigans, as this other girl did, then she'll also likely need to be in the web of trust. 745205;1404563962;Dekker3D;So I'm trying to find an easy way to get her into the web of trust. 745206;1404563962;cazalla;ninjashogun: can you call me to discuss further? 745207;1404563981;ninjashogun;cazalla - yes, absolutely. For cost reasons we could start by skype first. (You'll also see the name of one!) 745208;1404564000;ninjashogun;PM me your skype name and we can talk in 5 min. 745209;1404564015;cazalla;i don't have skype but i have a landline for you to call 745210;1404564045;FabianB;!up Dekker3D 745211;1404564049;ninjashogun;cazalla, have you ever invested in anyone/anything? if we proceeded, would you be able to give a reference? 745212;1404564076;ninjashogun;(Assuming you became interested.) 745213;1404564090;cazalla;ever heard of a lil company named labcoin? 745214;1404564130;ninjashogun;I have now. Google results don't look great :-D :-D 745215;1404564131;FabianB;Dekker3D: gpg is probably easier if you're not already using bitcoin-qt 745216;1404564138;ninjashogun;Check Google :-D 745217;1404564142;cazalla;if you're unable to afford to call me i'll assume you're not a serious player 745218;1404564152;ninjashogun;I didn't need a reference now. 745219;1404564159;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00081624 = 15.2637 BTC [+] 745220;1404564159;Dekker3D;True. 745221;1404564160;ninjashogun;I was just asking if you would be able to furnish one. 745222;1404564167;ninjashogun;assuming you became interested. 745223;1404564181;ninjashogun;If this would be the first time you invested in anything/anyone then we might still proceed but I'd like to know this ahead of time. 745224;1404564202;cazalla;my money is no good? 745225;1404564253;ninjashogun;cazalla - the issue is, I don't know. You could waste weeks of my time. (It's happened before - that's post-closing documents. meaning, everything has been agreed and closed.) 745226;1404564280;ninjashogun;cazalla, I might still be able to work with you. Maybe if this would be a first investment for you, you can team up with someone from here and do it together. 745227;1404564310;cazalla;i'm gonna need that phone call before we proceed 745228;1404564313;ninjashogun;cazalla, I have a lot going on including raising this bridge from my exisitng network and VC network. 745229;1404564335;ninjashogun;cazalla, OK. PM me your number, I'll call you soon. 745230;1404564381;cazalla;61+ 02 6131 3000 745231;1404564418;ninjashogun;thanks. give me 10, call you soon. 745232;1404564648;FabianB;!up indiancandy1 745233;1404564675;chetty;!up ninjashogun 745234;1404564714;ninjashogun;thanks, chetty. cazalla, I Googled your number to try to do some basic DD. https://www.google.com/search?q="61%2B+02+6131+3000" 745235;1404564714;assbot;"61+ 02 6131 3000" - Google Search 745236;1404564728;ninjashogun;cazalla, now you see why I need a reference. It's very easy to waste someone's time. 745237;1404564751;cazalla;just explain your scheme to them 745238;1404564767;chetty;ususally the one asking for money gives references 745239;1404564769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6080 @ 0.00081599 = 4.9612 BTC [-] 745240;1404564778;ninjashogun;chetty - not in my world. 745241;1404564796;ninjashogun;chetty - money is easy. Finding people who are interested in building something together and have the connections to help is harder. 745242;1404564832;chetty;if I want to give money without refs there are plenty of beggars on the street corner 745243;1404564852;ninjashogun;chetty - yes, I agree. If you want to give money but have no references, they're the only ones who will take it from you. 745244;1404564886;ninjashogun;cazalla - btw the above - linking "Contact - Australian Federal Police" - is exactly why I call this channel useless trolls. It takes about 15 seconds of talking with me to determine who I am and what I'm doing. 745245;1404564890;indiancandy1;register 745246;1404564897;indiancandy1;:( 745247;1404564905;ninjashogun;lol 745248;1404564906;indiancandy1;im confused 745249;1404564910;indiancandy1;HELP 745250;1404564914;indiancandy1;dekker dissapoeared 745251;1404564967;ninjashogun;cazalla, now you also see why if you've never invested in anything or anyone, why I don't want to offer to be the first. 745252;1404565005;FabianB;indiancandy1: msg that to NickServ, not in this channel and without the < and > 745253;1404565016;FabianB;indiancandy1: and of course use a different password 745254;1404565026;ninjashogun;chetty - I will also say this. How come VC's (venture capitalists) don't get scammed - when they write six, and seven-figure checks? If you Google "vc's scammed": 745255;1404565028;ninjashogun;https://www.google.com/search?q=vc+firm+scammed 745256;1404565029;assbot;vc firm scammed - Google Search 745257;1404565049;indiancandy1;where and who 745258;1404565049;ninjashogun;you get only stories about founders (like me) being the ones to get scammed by the people who supposedly hvae the money. Why is that? Because due dilligence is actually quite easy to perform. 745259;1404565051;indiancandy1;is nickserv 745260;1404565054;indiancandy1;where i find out 745261;1404565057;FabianB;indiancandy1: you can start a pm with nickserv by /query NickServ 745262;1404565068;indiancandy1;where is he 745263;1404565073;indiancandy1;lol 745264;1404565074;ninjashogun;nickserv is just an automated system, you send it messages via "/msg nickserv" 745265;1404565076;indiancandy1;ths is joke 745266;1404565089;indiancandy1;so i type it 745267;1404565091;indiancandy1;in here 745268;1404565100;ninjashogun;indiancandy1, go to #freenode for help 745269;1404565110;ninjashogun;they will help you 745270;1404565155;indiancandy1;so i type that here 745271;1404565159;indiancandy1;and it wil take me there 745272;1404565160;indiancandy1;? 745273;1404565169;FabianB;indiancandy1: type "/query nickserv" wherever 745274;1404565187;FabianB;indiancandy1: you'll be in a tab with nickserv where you can procede with registering 745275;1404565191;chetty;ninjashogun, I dont think VC lets it make the news when they get scammed ...they get even 745276;1404565221;ninjashogun;chetty - no, it just doesn't happen. I know VC's. I know founders. Scams just don't happen after you do due dilligence. 745277;1404565259;ninjashogun;chetty, why do you think I have to spend my own money to get six-figure investments from them? Couldn't I just send a prospectus and have them wire some cash? It doesn't work like that. You need to do a TON and have a ton of meetings with them, sohw them EVERYTHING in minute detail. 745278;1404565267;chetty;absolutes are dangerous 745279;1404565352;ninjashogun;chetty - http://cdixon.org/2010/02/03/backing-out-of-a-term-sheet/ 745280;1404565353;assbot;Backing out of a term sheet | chris dixon's blog 745281;1404565354;ninjashogun;see that? 745282;1404565364;ninjashogun;"The best VC in the world, Sequoia Capital, whose companies account for an astounding 10% of NASDAQs market cap, has (according to trustworthy sources) only backed out on one term sheet in the last 10 years." 745283;1404565392;ninjashogun;You absolutely can talk in absolutes. 745284;1404565422;ninjashogun;meanwhile, cazalla's reference for me (unsure of releatoinship) has all of its top Google hits be about how it's a scam. 745285;1404565437;moiety;;; later tell mircea_popescu kik is just an instant messaging app but it works across all platforms and has lots of wee add-ons. i like kik 745286;1404565437;gribble;The operation succeeded. 745287;1404565463;moiety;indiancandy1: if you need a hand registering with gribble and nickserv, feel free to PM me 745288;1404565520;FabianB;;;ticker --last 745289;1404565521;gribble;631.63 745290;1404565537;ninjashogun;Anyway, it sounds like nobody here has actually helped start startup-type businesses (off bitcoin), so I'm not going to waste more of my time. If someone is interested in learning more about either of the businesses I'm currently raising funds ahead of the seed round of, then you can PM me and I can give you all the details. 745291;1404565540;ninjashogun;thanks for your time. 745292;1404565560;moiety;it's been emotional ninjashogun 745293;1404565579;chetty;moiety, +1 745294;1404565615;ninjashogun;moiety - it's been a 100% explicit proof of what I've been saying for the past few months whenever I've been here. Tihs channel is useless trolls. Cazalla "gave me his number" to call and discuss further (normally, quite a normal first step!!!) Except he gave Australian's police number. Useless trolling. 745295;1404565632;ninjashogun;enjoy your little hellhole guys. 745296;1404565651;dub;I'll miss him 745297;1404565684;chetty;but he knows people and stuffs 745298;1404565742;pankkake;lol, nice trollage 745299;1404565971;chetty;!up indiancandy1 745300;1404565993;FabianB;;;ticker --currency eur --last 745301;1404565994;gribble;464.634384 745302;1404566399;moiety;lmao cazalla love it 745303;1404566538;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10722 @ 0.00081624 = 8.7517 BTC [+] 745304;1404566904;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.03817337 = 5.9169 BTC [+] {15} 745305;1404566965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 188 @ 0.03958391 = 7.4418 BTC [+] {5} 745306;1404567209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.04 = 1.04 BTC [+] 745307;1404567270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 109 @ 0.04009999 = 4.3709 BTC [+] {4} 745308;1404567331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 112 @ 0.0402025 = 4.5027 BTC [+] {2} 745309;1404567736;artifexd;There is this tv show called "Storage Wars" where they auction off the contents of storage units whose bills haven't been paid. I wonder if a cloud storage provider could get away with something similar. "Don't pay your bill? We auction off your data." 745310;1404567828;cazalla;well i figured he best call the federal police in my country and explain it to them 745311;1404567887;cazalla;for some time he has said we're all trolls yet here he is again pitching us, makes me think he's a scammer afterall 745312;1404568212;moiety;the world must be trolling him if no one wants his proposals. i think he'll be back. 745313;1404568235;*;moiety puts ninjashogun's toys back in his pram 745314;1404568240;cazalla;;;rate ninjashogun -1 wouldn't call me on the phone 745315;1404568241;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. 745316;1404568260;chetty;the logic of wanting investor refs and not offering yours escapes me completely 745317;1404568373;moiety;i know, an added nice touch was preferring folk that didn't want to know what he was up to entirely. 745318;1404568557;dub;he has refs, just call paul graham 745319;1404568734;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12712 @ 0.00081599 = 10.3729 BTC [-] 745320;1404569015;chetty;the other interesting question is if he knows so many VC and all that whats he need investors here for? 745321;1404569082;dub;he needs 30 grand to setup meetings with vc's 745322;1404569114;moiety;unsure but he has an incredible skill for answering thingswith such long convoluted answers, you dont care by the end 745323;1404569190;dub;because as an OG startup entreprenure, he doesnt have $30k or a credit card 745324;1404569308;chetty;30k to set up a meeting, I guess inflation is worse than I thought 745325;1404569478;dub;well the first meeting is on necker island see, and he's travelling by kite surfing on the back of a naked chick on branson's back 745326;1404569482;cazalla;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/29vt1q/suicidal_over_dogecoin_please_help_shibes/ 745327;1404569483;assbot;Suicidal over Dogecoin - Please help shibes : dogecoin 745328;1404569489;cazalla;shibe needs to be put to sleep 745329;1404569912;punkman;"I've tried to comfort myself with examples of Bitcoin's drops from $30 to $1 before but this doesn't mean it's going to happen again especially because of Doge's very different properties" 745330;1404570026;punkman;" I should have read more about the technical aspects of Doge before I invested but like a lot of people here I had so much faith that the community could conquer these things. But it seems that community means nothing when it comes to the success of Doge, the price is being driven and manipulated by the big money, the chinese whales and big money speculators" 745331;1404570137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67250 @ 0.00081274 = 54.6568 BTC [-] {6} 745332;1404570258;punkman;cazalla, wow there's a whole reddit for depressed dogetards http://www.reddit.com/r/depreshibe 745333;1404570259;assbot;A place for Depressed shibes to chat about things and vent 745334;1404570319;moiety;it's better his fiancee left him now before the wedding. i don't think she understands the whole "for better or worse" bit 745335;1404570418;cazalla;fuck, you think it can't get worse but it does 745336;1404570494;punkman;doge is a great field study 745337;1404570501;justusranvier;So Economic decisions have consequences after all? http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/dogecoin-to-allow-annual-inflation-of-5-billion-coins-each-year-forever/ 745338;1404570502;assbot;Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica 745339;1404570552;cazalla;it must burn for litecoiners who see bitcoin/dogecoin accepted here signs but no litecoin one 745340;1404570578;chetty;cazalla, worse is when you wish it would get worse (so break already) and it just keeps the slow grind 745341;1404570615;dub;talking to an enthusiastic shibe in a bar the other night that was teh major selling point 745342;1404570635;dub;of course you need to keep printing more of it forever, just like dollars 745343;1404570685;pankkake;doesn't really change in the end, inflation is lower in % each year 745344;1404570722;pankkake;but yeah if it helped break the "bitcoin and litecoin accepted" hope, great 745345;1404570743;pankkake;at some point, any business accepting bitcoin would get insta spammed with "please add litecoin" 745346;1404570776;kakobrekla;not that anyone will buy with ltc, just the silver color is cool. 745347;1404570869;kakobrekla;;;later tell artifexd just less broken, but np. 745348;1404570869;gribble;The operation succeeded. 745349;1404571062;Naphex;17:11 <+cazalla> shibe needs to be put to sleep << i loled hard 745350;1404572133;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/russian-lawmakers-pass-bill-restricting-internet-172456389.html 745351;1404572272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.18891799 = 0.5668 BTC [+] 745352;1404572454;mircea_popescu;moiety o so basically they're offering im chats ? 745353;1404572455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.188967 = 0.7559 BTC [+] {3} 745354;1404572516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.18985266 = 2.8478 BTC [+] {6} 745355;1404572517;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00081197 = 24.4809 BTC [-] {2} 745356;1404572526;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 745357;1404572527;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.0, Best ask: 632.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 632.0, 24 hour volume: 2441.09724497, 24 hour low: 623.23, 24 hour high: 639.31, 24 hour vwap: 630.796426752 745358;1404572535;mircea_popescu;sooo... what's new. 745359;1404572577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2} 745360;1404572773;mircea_popescu;!up Dekker3D 745361;1404572841;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 745362;1404572844;gribble;Current Blocks: 309346 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1117 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 31 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16714376135.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.61887 745363;1404572846;thestringpuller;;;estimate 745364;1404572847;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 16714376135.9 based on data since last change | 18031729744.8 based on data for last three days 745365;1404572861;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 745366;1404572865;mircea_popescu;either of you here ? 745367;1404572866;indiancandy1;hi u 745368;1404572870;mircea_popescu;heya. 745369;1404572871;indiancandy1;wb 745370;1404572876;thestringpuller;hmmm hashrate lag 745371;1404572876;indiancandy1;ce fatch 745372;1404572883;mircea_popescu;bine! 745373;1404572885;indiancandy1;how do u spel it 745374;1404572886;mircea_popescu;drop your bitcoin address will you ? 745375;1404572889;mircea_popescu;ce faci 745376;1404572900;indiancandy1;cool 745377;1404572904;indiancandy1;1sec 745378;1404572913;mircea_popescu;i'll be here a while. 745379;1404572949;mircea_popescu;ninjashogun: it's kind of weird how you guys have all the money, and they're the ones who are serious. <<< lmao. yeah, TOTALLY weird. 745380;1404572956;mircea_popescu;smarten up kid. 745381;1404573015;indiancandy1;1C2GHDcNxzZfnVBD9EyY95WPuhXtatJDfa 745382;1404573042;mircea_popescu;cool. 745383;1404573116;mircea_popescu;!up IlllIIllIIlIIlll 745384;1404573121;mircea_popescu;thanks god for autocomplete. 745385;1404573147;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D: As far as I know, mircea's "anyway, drop your address" means that she should put her bitcoin address in here, anywhere. I'd write it for her, but it's more trustworthy if I just vouch for her and she writes it <<< yup that's a good point. seeing how you own this nick for 5 years and she just reg'd hers. 745386;1404573158;mircea_popescu;but it would work a lot better if either or both had a wot acct. 745387;1404573268;mircea_popescu;cazalla: are you her pimp or something? Dekker3D: I'm her tech dude << the difference is negligible ? :D 745388;1404573492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.0008107 = 6.0803 BTC [-] 745389;1404573496;moiety;we've been in PM getting her reg'd with nickserv, half way through gribbling for the wot 745390;1404573514;mircea_popescu;you're a good girl :) 745391;1404573517;mircea_popescu;how's the hangover ? 745392;1404573572;moiety;ohgod, i was scared to read the logs back this morning! was dying at first, but i'm ok now. sorry for being here 745393;1404573602;mircea_popescu;lol sokay, what's the big deal ? 745394;1404573643;moiety;i dont make as much sense as BB when drunk XD 745395;1404573675;mircea_popescu;or vexual when sober 745396;1404573881;moiety;lolol 745397;1404573945;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, the difference is negligible because she's doing sexy stuff on the internet and I'm helping her do so. That could make me her pimp or her tech guy. 745398;1404573967;mircea_popescu;so basically her pich guy. 745399;1404573970;Dekker3D;pich? 745400;1404573975;mircea_popescu;yeah. her pimptech 745401;1404573979;Dekker3D;Yeah sure. 745402;1404574065;Dekker3D;Sounds about right, anyway. 745403;1404574091;Dekker3D;gribbling for the wot. That sounds.. lovely. 745404;1404574106;Dekker3D;That reminds me, my key should be done cooking by now. As in, uploading to a server and whatnot 745405;1404574153;mircea_popescu;defo 745406;1404574212;mircea_popescu;ahahhha vcs don't get scammed ? because if you type "vc scammed" into google you get ninjashogtards ?! 745407;1404574242;mircea_popescu;o god this fucking log is golden. i was originaly -.- cazalla but i take it back. lol. 745408;1404574243;mircea_popescu;lmao. 745409;1404574276;FabianB;it continued almost just as funny in -otc 745410;1404574344;mircea_popescu;meanwhile max keiser of scamcoins r us wants to put his manboobs in my pay for tits scheme. 745411;1404574352;mircea_popescu;from what i hear. 745412;1404574468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17369 @ 0.0008107 = 14.081 BTC [-] 745413;1404574523;Dekker3D;Suddenly, authentication :D 745414;1404574526;Dekker3D;;;ident Dekker3D 745415;1404574527;gribble;Nick 'Dekker3D', with hostmask 'Dekker3D!~Dekker3D@cable-213-34-238-79.zeelandnet.nl', is identified as user 'Dekker3D', with GPG key id 802A70ED22A1B6E4, key fingerprint 3B5216E917B8DC774AC31B95802A70ED22A1B6E4, and bitcoin address None 745416;1404574532;Dekker3D;I exist! 745417;1404574542;mircea_popescu;so good for you. 745418;1404574547;Dekker3D;:) 745419;1404574571;mircea_popescu;;;rate Dekker3D 1 Guy's a pich. Which is sort of like a tech pimp. 745420;1404574573;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Dekker3D has been recorded. 745421;1404574577;Dekker3D;Well, I wanted to learn a bit about the "web of trust" idea anyway, but never really knew anyone who was into crypto that much 745422;1404574582;Dekker3D;Lol 745423;1404574591;mircea_popescu;now you do about 2/3 of all the people who are into crypto that much. 745424;1404574598;mircea_popescu;pm assbot !up 745425;1404574656;mircea_popescu;FabianB make a pastebin for later glory ? 745426;1404574720;Dekker3D;Woot. 745427;1404574724;mircea_popescu;you can even voice the indian chick now. 745428;1404574736;Dekker3D;Yeah, I figured as much. 745429;1404574749;punkman;mircea_popescu: if you want more ninjashogun: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/05#l1404561190 745430;1404574750;assbot;BitcoinStats 745431;1404574750;Dekker3D;That'd be !up indiancandy1, afaik 745432;1404574752;Dekker3D;Aka, let's give it a try 745433;1404574754;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 745434;1404574759;mircea_popescu;punkman o otc is logged tambien ? 745435;1404574761;Dekker3D;I am almighty 745436;1404574775;mircea_popescu;you know pimps get blowjobs for free right ? 745437;1404574792;mircea_popescu;do you know what i am saying ? 745438;1404574796;Dekker3D;Lol 745439;1404574817;Dekker3D;Sadly, I don't have a 376.6km extendopenis. 745440;1404574837;Dekker3D;Oh wait, that's by road. It could be a few km less. Still sadly lacking 745441;1404574838;mircea_popescu;sucks to be you. BUY ONE 745442;1404574858;punkman;Dekker3D, plane ticket, camera, camshow IPO, profits!! 745443;1404574864;Dekker3D;Heh. 745444;1404574868;Dekker3D;Camshow IPO? 745445;1404574882;mircea_popescu;should be a crowdsourced project this. "i need crowdmoneyz to make a 380 km extendopenis to fuck this chick i met online that can't really be bothered to walk over, but i like tothink of as a prospect" 745446;1404574884;Dekker3D;Also, how would one go about buying a 376.6 km extendopenis? 745447;1404574891;Dekker3D;Lol. 745448;1404574896;mircea_popescu;prolly get 1 trilion dolars from all the online geeks in a similar position 745449;1404574909;Dekker3D;Myeps 745450;1404574915;kakobrekla;punkman should start here http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/05#l1404559743 745451;1404574916;assbot;BitcoinStats 745452;1404574917;kakobrekla;lmao 745453;1404574925;mircea_popescu;punkman the chick's actually reasonably hot but she figures she got bollywood prospects so doesn't really wanna. 745454;1404574945;punkman;mircea_popescu: well, masks are cheap aren't they 745455;1404574960;mircea_popescu;what do you want from this poor woman. 745456;1404574969;mircea_popescu;get a pich, get a pime, get a what else ? 745457;1404574970;Dekker3D;Hm. A mask. That IS a fancy idea. 745458;1404574978;Dekker3D;pime. Pimp... mechanic? 745459;1404574989;mircea_popescu;costume 745460;1404575025;Dekker3D;Heh. Pimp costume? 745461;1404575049;mircea_popescu;artifexd: We auction off your data." << you can't put it in a truck. 745462;1404575055;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D pimp costume [manager] 745463;1404575077;indiancandy1;sorry 745464;1404575080;indiancandy1;i was away 745465;1404575085;Dekker3D;Hey. 745466;1404575127;mircea_popescu;cazalla: for some time he has said we're all trolls yet here he is again pitching us, makes me think he's a scammer afterall << prolly just the weird sort that tries to do it on his own terms but isn't either bright or great enough to manage it. so he ends this sort of ... i suppose the word is incel. 745467;1404575158;Dekker3D;"incel". Good gods, I'm going to have to find a different dictionary for this place, aren't I? 745468;1404575166;Dekker3D;Ah, nvm 745469;1404575170;Dekker3D;Urban dictionary. Durp 745470;1404575172;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D actually, this is very funny because 745471;1404575185;mircea_popescu;a) i only learned it like yest, and it's emphatically not part of the lingo here. 745472;1404575189;mircea_popescu;b) a lingo here does exist, 745473;1404575197;mircea_popescu;;;google learn that variety speech 745474;1404575197;gribble;Toastmasters Speech 6: Vocal Variety - Six Minutes: ; Breathing: The Seductive Key to Unlocking Your Vocal Variety: ; Audiology, Speech & Learning Care | Children's Hospital Colorado: artifexd: We auction off your data." << you can't put it in a truck. <<< But you can put it in a packet :) 745536;1404576332;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D anyway, now you know why a bunch of people don't like me. 745537;1404576343;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, I've actually met someone quite like you before. 745538;1404576367;mircea_popescu;there's this "look what you can learn about yourself on the internet" thing that happens to people. albeit rarely this clearly isolated as we have it here. 745539;1404576368;Dekker3D;Harsh but with clearly defined ideas based on some actual thought, and also rich (or at least claiming to be). 745540;1404576374;mircea_popescu;artifexd lol good 1 745541;1404576379;Dekker3D;isolated? 745542;1404576385;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin volatility to exceed $300 USD in July" http://bitbet.us/bet/982/ Odds: 73(Y):27(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.62691947 BTC. Current weight: 81,457. 745543;1404576401;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D so who was he ? 745544;1404576416;Dekker3D;Eh. Bruno something, went by "BMG" on the forum I was messing around on. 745545;1404576422;mircea_popescu;isolated, as in, not part of a complex structure of language and relationship 745546;1404576436;Dekker3D;While I was working on yet another one of my projects. It failed like so many others. 745547;1404576442;mircea_popescu;complexity creates plausible deniability, generally. 745548;1404576448;Dekker3D;Anyway, he got the impression that I'm pretty damn good at what I do 745549;1404576450;Dekker3D;brb. 745550;1404576465;mircea_popescu;i still don't know what that is. 745551;1404576501;Dekker3D;Back. 745552;1404576540;Dekker3D;Well, there was an MMORPG that I liked. Extremely casual, simple looking and the game itself was pretty stupid, but the community was pretty awesome. 745553;1404576552;mircea_popescu;called ? 745554;1404576553;Dekker3D;There had been 6 attempts at making an unofficial remake already. 745555;1404576555;Dekker3D;Blade Mistress. 745556;1404576563;mircea_popescu;o i recall this shit lol 745557;1404576566;Dekker3D;Heh. 745558;1404576568;mircea_popescu;god it was awful :D 745559;1404576568;Dekker3D;Are you BMG? 745560;1404576573;mircea_popescu;no idea bout the community 745561;1404576575;mircea_popescu;nah, i am not. 745562;1404576576;Dekker3D;Ah. 745563;1404576579;Dekker3D;Heh. 745564;1404576600;mircea_popescu;i'm part owner in s.mg which is a game maker which is why i know more than the average chap about indie games. 745565;1404576606;Dekker3D;Anyway, I was the only one who made a remake project that got further than "gathering ideas and musing idly" 745566;1404576611;Dekker3D;Ah. 745567;1404576615;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 745568;1404576670;chetty;good god MP, kid has been sold a bill of goods on being uselss. :( 745569;1404576672;Dekker3D;But one team member started becoming more of a burden than a boon, and he was an old friend so I found it hard to cut him loose. We also lacked programmers, as I was spending too much time just managing stuff. 745570;1404576680;mircea_popescu;chetty almost seems that way dunnit. 745571;1404576685;Dekker3D;Me? 745572;1404576686;Dekker3D;What? 745573;1404576688;mircea_popescu;yes you. 745574;1404576700;Dekker3D;I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing? 745575;1404576706;Dekker3D;Srsly. Translate for me? 745576;1404576718;mircea_popescu;you know what a bill of goods is ? 745577;1404576725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.19 = 1.33 BTC [+] 745578;1404576731;Dekker3D;A list of stuff to sell, buy or transport, afaik? 745579;1404576741;mircea_popescu;yes. but also metaphorically, "the content of this box" 745580;1404576742;mircea_popescu;you 745581;1404576746;Dekker3D;Ah. 745582;1404576752;Dekker3D;So I'm full of uselessness? :P 745583;1404576753;mircea_popescu;'re the box. the bill of goods says "useless" 745584;1404576755;mircea_popescu;an' you bought it. 745585;1404576809;Dekker3D;Heh. Okay. I still can't quite tell whether you're saying "aw, poor kid, he got handed a bad hand" or "damn kid, go make yourself useful". Knowing your type a tiny bit, I'm guessing the latter. 745586;1404576816;mircea_popescu;im not saying either. 745587;1404576828;Dekker3D;So what are you saying? 745588;1404576844;mircea_popescu;that it looks like has a point. 745589;1404576854;Dekker3D;Like.. who has a point? 745590;1404576858;mircea_popescu;chetty 745591;1404576864;Dekker3D;On? 745592;1404576878;mircea_popescu;lol what is this, abbot and costello ? 745593;1404576889;mircea_popescu;"i still don;t know what the idea is!" 745594;1404576892;Dekker3D;I honestly have no idea what the "bill of goods" means in this context 745595;1404576899;Dekker3D;I am trying to get that information out of one of you 745596;1404576904;mircea_popescu;right. 745597;1404576905;Dekker3D;Heh. 745598;1404576932;mircea_popescu;let's try it with women. it always works easier with women. 745599;1404576936;mircea_popescu;like they're lubricated or something. 745600;1404576949;mircea_popescu;so. there's this girl. she's about 12. you with me ? 745601;1404576959;Dekker3D;I suppose 745602;1404576973;mircea_popescu;she's curious like any kid. so she... actually let me get it, i have a reference. 745603;1404576974;chetty;ok its just a idiomatic saying, basically I was saying that you had been tricked into believing you were useless 745604;1404576982;Dekker3D;Ah. 745605;1404577006;Dekker3D;Well yeah. I have. I know I have skills and can get stuff done, but so many things around me have fallen apart that I can't help but blame myself at some level. 745606;1404577014;Dekker3D;I'm trying to be more confident about stuff. 745607;1404577031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43097 @ 0.00080924 = 34.8758 BTC [-] 745608;1404577038;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/ce-este-adolescenta/ << there, she gets caught. 745609;1404577040;assbot;Ce este adolescenta ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 745610;1404577043;chetty;you are here, you are in the wot, pretty good start ;) 745611;1404577045;mircea_popescu;now everybody tells her she;'s a slut. 745612;1404577057;mircea_popescu;if she buys that, shes's gonna be one. 745613;1404577081;mircea_popescu;if she doesn't buy it... well, whatever. curious kid getting bored. 745614;1404577169;Dekker3D;Yeah. 745615;1404577227;mircea_popescu;basically, the boxen that are people... not many know what's inside, and especially not the people in question. 745616;1404577258;chetty;sooo back to the question, do you code? what language and all that Dekker3D 745617;1404577271;Dekker3D;C++, some Java and C# 745618;1404577285;mircea_popescu;cool. 745619;1404577287;Dekker3D;I've been doing a tiny bit of Python lately, though I absolutely loathe everything about it. 745620;1404577293;mircea_popescu;why ? 745621;1404577367;Dekker3D;It lacks curly braces and instead uses indentation. That's the main thing I hate. 745622;1404577397;mircea_popescu;i think most everyone here loves python and loathes perl 745623;1404577412;mircea_popescu;except for the weirdo frenchies into ruby and other appalling shit. 745624;1404577424;Dekker3D;you can't visually tell the difference between spaces and tabs, in sufficient amounts, and it complains if you use tabs in a piece of code that uses spaces elsewhere. For obvious reasons, but some people use tabs and some use spaces. 745625;1404577450;mircea_popescu;well python is trying its best to be like lisp 745626;1404577456;Dekker3D;It's interpreted and weakly typed, afaik. You can even add stuff to classes on the fly. That allows a lack of structure 745627;1404577456;mircea_popescu;and that means copying all the idiocy. 745628;1404577460;Dekker3D;Meh. 745629;1404577474;Dekker3D;I haven't even tried perl. It looks like line noise, but we all know that. 745630;1404577475;benkay; hey my benkay has rearry improved! // your which now? 745631;1404577482;artifexd;I'm in the "Down with Python" camp. C/C++/C#/go are my tools of choice depending on the task at hand. 745632;1404577505;chetty;Dekker3D, what OS you work on? 745633;1404577510;Dekker3D;Anyway, I studied the Bitcoin code a bit to see how the bloom filter is implemented. 745634;1404577518;mircea_popescu;artifexd one day we shall have to make a wot backed tech map 745635;1404577528;mircea_popescu;who's with who. then just see what techs get the best votes 745636;1404577539;Dekker3D;chetty, I used to be Windows/Linux, but then EUFI happened and my old mobo got fried. Haven't been able to reinstall Linux since. 745637;1404577553;mircea_popescu;just you know, put up a page, with 20 questions or so. have people verify a string in here to allow their results. 745638;1404577554;artifexd;With kakobrekla in the python camp, that's probably an automatic win. 745639;1404577556;mircea_popescu;and then graph it 745640;1404577559;Dekker3D;And I stopped bothering. Now I found some possible hint on how to get it to work, but can hardly be arsed. 745641;1404577565;mircea_popescu;no because you only use the graph. 745642;1404577578;mircea_popescu;not the values, just the graph, like google pr works. 745643;1404577607;punkman;but there's no one true hammer 745644;1404577610;mircea_popescu;;;ud EUFI 745645;1404577611;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Eufi | ... Eueyyauyuyoe · Eufaula · Eufaula, Ok · Eufemia · eufer · eufhwetiyuigohbleachgokufurrybate · Eufi · eufk · Eufrat · eufuckingreka · eufus ... Eufi isn't defined. 745646;1404577614;punkman;only lisp 745647;1404577615;mircea_popescu;what the shit ? 745648;1404577619;Dekker3D;Heh. 745649;1404577631;artifexd;You mean UEFI? 745650;1404577639;Dekker3D;Yeah, UEFI 745651;1404577643;mircea_popescu;o the mouse bios ? 745652;1404577651;Dekker3D;Yeah. 745653;1404577652;mircea_popescu;so what of it, it's basically the same. 745654;1404577661;Dekker3D;It includes some "trusted OS" kind of thing. 745655;1404577663;benkay;one true hammer lol 745656;1404577664;Dekker3D;Aka, "windows only mode" 745657;1404577683;Dekker3D;C++ is my one true hammer. But I have sinned, and am now doing something in Java. 745658;1404577683;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D you know there's a a job waiting for c++ / windoze ppl ? 745659;1404577689;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, do tell 745660;1404577694;mircea_popescu;now where was it 745661;1404577707;artifexd;Eulora? 745662;1404577715;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/ 745663;1404577716;assbot;S.MG, April 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 745664;1404577720;mircea_popescu;grep for "the first" Dekker3D 745665;1404577723;punkman;Thickasthieves wants someone to compile Altcoin for Windows 745666;1404577727;mircea_popescu;that too. 745667;1404577773;Dekker3D;A package maintainer, mircea_popescu ? 745668;1404577776;mircea_popescu;yeah. 745669;1404577861;Dekker3D;What you say makes sense, but I'd still prefer not to start out with something that requires actual commitment. I still expect myself to fail at long-term stuff, even if I know I probably shouldn't. 745670;1404577914;Dekker3D;And this seems quite a bit beyond my "well.. it compiles and does something" level of programming so far. 745671;1404577938;benkay;that is an impressive display of humility for these parts. 745672;1404577948;Dekker3D;Hm? 745673;1404577952;Dekker3D;Yeah, maybe. 745674;1404577964;benkay;other people in your boat...start exchanges. 745675;1404577984;Dekker3D;I just haven't ever had a C++ project where my main goal was to get rid of the bugs rather than add some new feature or even get it running in the first place 745676;1404578052;benkay;in other news: http://imgur.com/gallery/jFEGGnI 745677;1404578052;assbot;Guy flies drone into fireworks show - Imgur 745678;1404578147;mircea_popescu;<benkay> that is an impressive display of humility for these parts. << ikr? 745679;1404578173;asciilifeform;FabianB: 'mycelium' << search the logs. 745680;1404578304;FabianB;asciilifeform: ah, ic, that discussion was already regarding entropy 745681;1404578314;asciilifeform;FabianB: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#731942 , http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744143 745682;1404578315;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 745683;1404578316;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 745684;1404578328;benkay;ninjashogun:lol yeah, luckily they're nice people and changed it for me rather than troll. can't imagine what would have happened in tihs channel. // are you fucking kidding me 745685;1404578362;mircea_popescu;http://www.somethingawful.com/game-reviews/blade-mistress/1/ 745686;1404578362;assbot;Blade Mistress 745687;1404578364;benkay;;;later tell ninjashogun you can't keep your password out of cleartext channels and you want how many bitcoins? 745688;1404578364;mircea_popescu;this is pretty lulzy 745689;1404578364;gribble;The operation succeeded. 745690;1404578430;FabianB;asciilifeform: thanks, read only one of them so far 745691;1404578444;asciilifeform;people gotta understand the importance of rng on a gizmo that doesn't import - only generates own - keys. 745692;1404578500;asciilifeform;likewise the importance of 'k' value in ecdsa 745693;1404578502;Dekker3D;Yeah, Blade Mistress is not polished or anything 745694;1404578505;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 745695;1404578568;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D i kinda enjoy the interaction between the hilariously pompous asses over at sa and unsuccessful real world efforts. 745696;1404578607;moiety;benkay i don't even know, i wasn't very sober, sorry 745697;1404578608;mircea_popescu;it's like watching an urbana women studies postdoc battle it out with a 65 year old ex-boxer champ 745698;1404578625;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, that makes for an amusing visual. 745699;1404578820;indiancandy1;;;bcverify G+jG24dm8R9Pk6bpiB8nabtxeP0z1UpmJqLC7DdrDOhjzDmQ8ZHZx399XuS1oYlIAEkad2mE4bqMFWuiZxZV/J0= 745700;1404578820;gribble;Error: Signature verification failed. 745701;1404578830;mircea_popescu;now you've done it. 745702;1404578923;Dekker3D;What's that code? Private key or something? That'd explain the "now you've done it" 745703;1404578939;mircea_popescu;im just being snarky. it's a failed attempt at a sig verify 745704;1404578966;Dekker3D;Ah. 745705;1404578972;moiety;dw we're getting there :] getting in the wot dekker 745706;1404578978;Dekker3D;Cool. 745707;1404579018;Dekker3D;mircea_popescu, chetty told me about Eulora and I'm in that channel now, with a few questions they say you could answer. 745708;1404579025;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.9 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 12(Y):88(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.30172933 BTC. Current weight: 89,244. 745709;1404579156;benkay; With kakobrekla in the python camp, that's probably an automatic win. // hah oh hah 745710;1404579189;benkay;hey logs aren't half as long as i expected today. 745711;1404579204;mircea_popescu;benkay scammed by loglength 745712;1404579224;asciilifeform;punkman: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/05#l1404570459 << lol 745713;1404579226;assbot;BitcoinStats 745714;1404579226;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00080922 = 28.1609 BTC [-] {2} 745715;1404579293;mircea_popescu;"I am most at home as a startup leader" ? cool. 745716;1404579299;mircea_popescu;!up davidynamic 745717;1404579338;davidynamic;Hi MP, I was sent here by bitcoinpete 745718;1404579344;thestringpuller;ninjashogun is the new usagi? 745719;1404579386;mircea_popescu;hi davidynamic 745720;1404579394;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller nah usagi was never this good. 745721;1404579403;mircea_popescu;he mostly just got frazzled. 745722;1404579485;davidynamic;Thanks, MP. Just here to listen (read) and learn 745723;1404579534;thestringpuller;Hmm. I wonder if you could use bitbet as a predictor for scams... 745724;1404579546;thestringpuller;"ninjashogun to defraud investors by 2015" etc 745725;1404579546;mircea_popescu;;;google the market advantages of the delivery bet 745726;1404579547;gribble;Challenges and opportunities in dermal/transdermal delivery: ; Best practice - Info entrepreneurs: ; GE Advantage | Operational Excellence | Business to Business (B2B ...: 745727;1404579555;mircea_popescu;jesus google you pos. 745728;1404579558;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema the market advantages of the delivery bet 745729;1404579559;gribble;The Globalization Paradox: Why Global Markets, States, and ...: ; Negotiating the energy policy 'trilemma' - Realising transition pathways: ; (1 more message) 745730;1404579565;asciilifeform;lol 745731;1404579566;mircea_popescu;;;google site:trilema.com the market advantages of the delivery bet 745732;1404579567;gribble;http://trilema.com/2014/con-alma-de-tango/ http://trilema.com/2014 ...: 745733;1404579571;mircea_popescu;omfg 745734;1404579598;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ 745735;1404579599;assbot;The positive market effects of the delivery bet. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 745736;1404580104;benkay;;;later tell Vexual i cooked something up for your thing. 745737;1404580105;gribble;The operation succeeded. 745738;1404581016;moiety;!up indiancandy1 745739;1404581056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04096462 = 0.5735 BTC [+] {6} 745740;1404581300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14059 @ 0.00081049 = 11.3947 BTC [+] {2} 745741;1404581834;mircea_popescu;punkman: "I've tried to comfort myself with examples of Bitcoin's drops from $30 to $1 before but this doesn't mean it's going to happen again especially because of Doge's very different properties" << ahahah. 745742;1404581854;mircea_popescu;funny how all the derps that derp about how mp is so and so and back and forth don't go "yep... he killed it. sorry for your loss." 745743;1404581931;punkman;I thought it was the chinese whales' fault 745744;1404581945;mircea_popescu;o sorry. 745745;1404581960;mircea_popescu;it was the man in the moon and catjesus. 745746;1404582060;benkay;S.WOL - will book ATC and BTC seperately? 745747;1404582073;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTHmHHhk3WY 745748;1404582073;assbot;EL GRAN COMBO - Ojos Chinos - YouTube 745749;1404582180;dignork;re: ATC, somebody has a live node? dns boostrap doesn't work 745750;1404582306;mircea_popescu;who broke teh bootstrap 745751;1404582366;dignork;188.165.216.59:9336 - connection refused, so boostrap might be fine, but the node is down 745752;1404582369;benkay;mircea_popescu: will S.WOL book ATC and BTC seperately? 745753;1404582383;asciilifeform;he killed it << i thought it kinda fellated its own pistol 745754;1404582436;mircea_popescu;benkay prolly not. 745755;1404582442;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well obviously all deaths have physical causes. 745756;1404582641;mircea_popescu;justusranvier: So Economic decisions have consequences after all? << who knew it! and the world is run by reason not by desire! and money talks and bullshit redditards suck it! And omfg what happened Obama had promised to fix all this!!1 745757;1404582754;benkay;http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-turns-to-hollywood-to-outfit-the-soldier-of-the-future-1404527893 // for the title only 745758;1404582755;assbot;U.S. Military Turns to Hollywood to Outfit the Soldier of the Future - WSJ 745759;1404582783;mircea_popescu;it's more about the looks than anyyhing. rite ? 745760;1404582824;benkay;a fighter jet that doesn't, supersoldier speshul fx... 745761;1404582842;benkay;scuse me i have a handmade bloody mary to drink. 745762;1404583114;mircea_popescu;ah sweet sweet delicious communitard tears. 745763;1404583187;mircea_popescu;But in the argument she finally said it, how I was like a little kid and not a "real man" whatever that means, 745764;1404583198;mircea_popescu;guess what it motherfucking means. three choices and the first three don't count. 745765;1404583923;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00080775 = 31.1792 BTC [-] {3} 745766;1404584978;thestringpuller;nanotube: is there a way to directly query for web of trust data and have it returned in some kinda serial format? 745767;1404585186;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy 745768;1404585192;indiancandy;== indiancandy1 Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable 745769;1404585193;indiancandy;? 745770;1404585227;Dekker3D;I think that's a "ghost". 745771;1404585231;pankkake;the server thought you were still connected 745772;1404585235;Dekker3D;Yeah. 745773;1404585264;indiancandy;huh 745774;1404585271;indiancandy;i had 2 refresh 745775;1404585272;Dekker3D;Use /msg nickserv ghost indiancandy1 745776;1404585294;Dekker3D;You'll probably need to include your password at the end. Be careful not to put it on here again :P 745777;1404585303;indiancandy;grrrrrrrrr 745778;1404585310;Dekker3D;Yeah, refreshing probably didn't give that instance a proper chance to log out. So it's still claimed. 745779;1404585311;indiancandy;this shit is stress 745780;1404585327;Dekker3D;You remember how you used /msg nickserv register to finally claim your nick, right? 745781;1404585336;Dekker3D;Use the ghost command in the same way 745782;1404585351;indiancandy;i 4got how 2 745783;1404585354;indiancandy;find nickserver 745784;1404585363;Dekker3D;Well, use /query nickserv 745785;1404585370;Dekker3D;And it'll open a chat window directly to nickserv. 745786;1404585380;Dekker3D;That prevents you from accidently telling others your password 745787;1404585423;FabianB;no need to ghost, indiancandy1 already quit 745788;1404585523;kakobrekla;did you check the b82rez? 745789;1404585595;moiety;just release the nick and get it back 745790;1404585658;mod6;^ 745791;1404585678;moiety;the stuff to type is in our pm indiancandy :] 745792;1404585704;moiety;ihad to release my nick every 3 minutes whilst on mobile broad band 745793;1404585727;kakobrekla;did you manage to get a bnc up? 745794;1404585747;moiety;having trouble getting my pi up and running. i cant get into the router settings 745795;1404585753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.0008092 = 13.109 BTC [+] 745796;1404585767;moiety;i've changed the dns and stuff but i still need to do the ports 745797;1404585839;kakobrekla;is it not your router? 745798;1404585875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 2500 @ 0.00079999 = 2 BTC [+] {2} 745799;1404586031;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> lol what is this, abbot and costello ? << haha 745800;1404586052;moiety;kakobrekla: no its just plugged into the router 745801;1404586070;mod6;<+mircea_popescu> i think most everyone here loves python and loathes perl << almost :P 745802;1404586086;moiety;old ISP router you just went to your home ip address and everything was there to change 745803;1404586100;mircea_popescu;mod6 i put that there for you :D 745804;1404586124;mod6;:] 745805;1404586204;mod6;<+dignork> re: ATC, somebody has a live node? dns boostrap doesn't work << I'm asking about this in #altcoin 745806;1404586249;mircea_popescu;i thought you were running one 745807;1404586257;kakobrekla;hm i always get nodes when i fire it up occasionally 745808;1404586277;mod6;im not running a node that's listed up there, but my local wallet is up. 745809;1404586282;kakobrekla;you are prolly on the wrong side of tech wot. 745810;1404586309;mircea_popescu;so argentina won i take it ? 745811;1404586577;moiety;i have to go out for a wee while, see yous later :] have a nice night! 745812;1404586581;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ah-sweet-sweet-delicious-communitard-tears/ 745813;1404586614;mircea_popescu;^ someone put that on reddit pls ? 745814;1404586622;mircea_popescu;preferably from a throwaway acct lol 745815;1404586646;moiety;i put the other one on a new trilema acct, that do? 745816;1404586680;mircea_popescu;sure 745817;1404586851;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.040001 = 1.72 BTC [-] 745818;1404586973;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04001368 = 1.1604 BTC [+] {2} 745819;1404587034;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.0008092 = 16.4672 BTC [+] 745820;1404587064;Namworld;I knew I shouldn't have invested more than I could afford to lose. That's why I put my savings and took a small loan to buy 900 BTC for 7000 USD back then. It was all I got, but Bitcoin looked great and I didn't mind losing it all and knew I could actually afford it. Being young, it wasn't the end of the world if I lost it. Not like I couldn't earn it back quickly. 745821;1404587107;Namworld;Well in Canada and most western countries anyway, it's not too much. Just a minor setback. 745822;1404587113;mircea_popescu;so did it work out ? 745823;1404587130;Namworld;I'd say so. 745824;1404587149;moiety;shall i keep this to r/dogecoin? 745825;1404587154;mircea_popescu;sure 745826;1404587171;mircea_popescu;Namworld :p 745827;1404587248;moiety;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/29wwqg/ah_sweet_sweet_delicious_communitard_tears/?already_submitted=true << upvotes any reddit peoples please! 745828;1404587248;assbot;Ah sweet sweet delicious communitard tears : dogecoin 745829;1404587260;moiety;kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out 745830;1404587279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22298 @ 0.00080682 = 17.9905 BTC [-] {2} 745831;1404587305;mircea_popescu;o lol cool. 745832;1404587632;mircea_popescu;haha they beleeted it ? 745833;1404587633;mircea_popescu;a well. 745834;1404587858;Namworld;To an extent that I made a few mistakes along the way, still turned out okay. 745835;1404589002;Namworld;Mostly boils down to underestimating the speed of growth by an order of magnitude I guess. 745836;1404590572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13274 @ 0.00081021 = 10.7547 BTC [+] {2} 745837;1404590810;mircea_popescu;http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peru-150-mummies-ancient-unknown-civilisation-discovered-atacama-desert-photos-1455244 745838;1404590810;assbot;Peru: 150 Mummies of Ancient Unknown Civilisation Discovered in Atacama Desert [PHOTOS] 745839;1404591128;mircea_popescu;!up SuchWow 745840;1404591139;mod6;last specimen is interesting there 745841;1404591303;Namworld;I think it was common in certain areas... people altering the shape of their skulls. Althoug I donn't remember much on the topic. 745842;1404591304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00081389 = 30.8464 BTC [+] {3} 745843;1404591544;Namworld;Quite alike any other sort of willful body distortions. 745844;1404591591;Namworld;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%C2%AB_d%C3%A9formation_toulousaine_%C2%BB_MHNT.jpg 745845;1404591591;assbot;File: dformation toulousaine MHNT.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 745846;1404591596;Namworld;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kane_Caw_Wacham.jpg 745847;1404591596;assbot;File:Kane Caw Wacham.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 745848;1404591632;Namworld;It's less odd looking when people are still alive. Even if peculiar. 745849;1404592036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 47 @ 0.04148967 = 1.95 BTC [+] {5} 745850;1404592072;kakobrekla;this is lul https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652707.0 745851;1404592072;assbot;Coinbase - Becoming more Paypal-esk every day? 745852;1404592131;punkman;http://panampost.com/belen-marty/2014/07/04/move-over-kickstarter-swarm-crypto-equity-is-the-next-frontier/ 745853;1404592131;assbot;Move Over Kickstarter, Crypto-Equity Is the Next Frontier 745854;1404592166;mircea_popescu;"I was wearing dress pants and flip flops. " 745855;1404592173;mircea_popescu;it had me at that. 745856;1404592187;punkman;o she's in b.a. 745857;1404592193;mircea_popescu;punkman yeah totally. like this : https://www.startjoin.com/comments/project/trollc 745858;1404592200;mircea_popescu;that's the next frontier. of lulz. 745859;1404592222;punkman;"Belén Marty is a journalist and freedom fighter based in Buenos Aires, Argentina." lol 745860;1404592260;mircea_popescu;oic. 745861;1404592273;mircea_popescu;well, there's what, 12mn people here. gotta be some clueless dweebs among them. 745862;1404592329;Namworld;I use localbitcoins. Because it is correctly implemented for such transactions. You prefund your transaction such that BTC is already there. The buyer has a secret code to keep to himself. Once you have the money, you can text/release funds from web at which point you receive the buyer's secret code, which you can show him as confirmation that the funds were released. 745863;1404592468;mircea_popescu;weird edge case anyway. generally you deal with poeople you know and trust. 745864;1404592482;Namworld;It's how an escrow 3rd party should work. 745865;1404592512;Namworld;Hmm, I never deal with people I know and trust when selling Bitcoins, for I know none buying Bitcoins. 745866;1404592707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64050 @ 0.00081503 = 52.2027 BTC [+] {4} 745867;1404592713;jurov;same here...people want to buy when i don't sell and when i sell, noone wants 745868;1404592733;jurov;so i just wash it through b-c 745869;1404592745;nubbins`; women are mentally ill, and will not allow them watch it if it's bloody. <<< half the women i know are into UFC 745870;1404592748;Namworld;I don't have any relatives buying, so it's always strangers 745871;1404592768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04 = 0.8 BTC [-] {2} 745872;1404592772;kakobrekla;you guys heard of otc? 745873;1404592839;jurov;kakobrekla: i did use otc, several times.. but hunting these ppl around is inconvenient 745874;1404592864;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i guess you're not in the demo ? 745875;1404592871;kakobrekla;jurov http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.pl 745876;1404592885;nubbins`;the demo... 745877;1404592891;jurov;and if you can get better price on otc than on b-c, be my agent 745878;1404592910;mircea_popescu;i like the guy's spirity 745879;1404592915;mircea_popescu;nubbins` demo[graphic] 745880;1404592920;nubbins`;ah 745881;1404592926;nubbins`;guess not! 745882;1404592928;Dekker3D;What is b-c exactly? 745883;1404592938;jurov;;;ticker --merket bitcoin-central --currency eur 745884;1404592938;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message) 745885;1404592942;kakobrekla;BuCkake 745886;1404592945;nubbins`;tbh i can't imagine a hockey fan letting anyone get in the way of a game 745887;1404592946;Dekker3D;Ah. 745888;1404592949;Dekker3D;Thanks 745889;1404592950;nubbins`;they're all a bit touched 745890;1404592966;jurov;;;ticker --market bitcoin-central --currency eur 745891;1404592967;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 462.98, Best ask: 463.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 462.98, 24 hour volume: 23.18098842, 24 hour low: 455.0, 24 hour high: 464.9, 24 hour vwap: 459.24265873 745892;1404592983;jurov;^case in point (about the price) 745893;1404592988;kakobrekla;uh 745894;1404593002;kakobrekla;dude, one day its 200 the other 1500, and you care for 10bux? 745895;1404593023;jurov;that's just the cherry on the top 745896;1404593026;kakobrekla;also is there 6k depth on bc? 745897;1404593047;jurov;when i'll sell 6k, i 745898;1404593052;jurov;ll call you. promise. 745899;1404593065;kakobrekla;do whatever you want, just aking. 745900;1404593066;kakobrekla;asking 745901;1404593165;kakobrekla;how do you simulate selling into the market with the bot again? 745902;1404593177;kakobrekla;;;sell something 745903;1404593177;gribble;Error: 'something' is not a valid positive floating point number. 745904;1404593186;kakobrekla;;;sell 10 745905;1404593187;gribble;(sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, (1 more message) 745906;1404593195;kakobrekla;no thats not it 745907;1404593202;jurov;;;market sell 10 745908;1404593202;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to sell 10 bitcoins right now would net 6262.5626 USD and would take the last price down to 626.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 626.2563 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0314 seconds 745909;1404593205;kakobrekla;;;asks 10 745910;1404593205;gribble;Bitstamp | There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 10.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.0083 seconds 745911;1404593216;jurov;;;market sell 10 --merket bitcoin-central 745912;1404593216;gribble;(market sell [--fiat] [--market ] [--currency XXX] ) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of bitcoins. If is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If --currency XXX is provided, converts to that fiat currency. Default is USD. If '--fiat' option is given, denotes the size of the order in fiat. 745913;1404593224;nubbins`;merket chains 745914;1404593224;jurov;;;market sell --merket bitcoin-central 10 745915;1404593224;gribble;(market sell [--fiat] [--market ] [--currency XXX] ) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of bitcoins. If is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If --currency XXX is provided, converts to that fiat currency. Default is USD. If '--fiat' option is given, denotes the size of the order in fiat. 745916;1404593228;jurov;;;market sell --market bitcoin-central 10 745917;1404593230;gribble;Bitcoin-Central | A market order to sell 10 bitcoins right now would net 6145.8198 USD and would take the last price down to 611.7300 USD, resulting in an average price of 614.5820 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0310 seconds 745918;1404593259;nubbins`;;;merkel cell 745919;1404593259;gribble;Error: "merkel" is not a valid command. 745920;1404593277;kakobrekla;4.5k 745921;1404593289;kakobrekla;sturles beats it. 745922;1404593349;jurov;this is just spot price , pretty meaningless 745923;1404593372;kakobrekla;is it not from the book? 745924;1404593386;jurov;3wk ago i put sell order on 494 eur ... and 2wk ago it got hit 745925;1404593391;jurov;how would you do this on otc? 745926;1404593440;kakobrekla;mr s. can do these things for me 745927;1404593477;jurov;okay i'll try 745928;1404593516;jurov;but still, iirc bitstamp was nowhere near 494 in that week 745929;1404593540;kakobrekla;ah 745930;1404593553;kakobrekla;well low liquidity goes both ways :) 745931;1404593595;jurov;or maybe french govt has dark orderbook with davout 745932;1404593783;jurov;noir carnet de commandes :DDD 745933;1404594082;mircea_popescu;"My wife had a pair of loafers made. Hers were simple, although totally custom, made to order. They cost under 1000 pesos, and took about a week. Mens shoes will be more, depending on size and style and leather." beat that davout. 745934;1404594086;mircea_popescu;i apparently LIVE in iran. 745935;1404594128;mircea_popescu; they're all a bit touched << you should see the football people lol 745936;1404594187;mircea_popescu;* hottblonde4u has quit (Client Quit) << omg why not voice the noobs. 745937;1404594194;mircea_popescu;i blame nubbins` 745938;1404594227;mircea_popescu;* jenevievestar (48ab107d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.171.16.125) has left #bitcoin-assets << look at that. 745939;1404594314;mircea_popescu;!up hottblonde4u 745940;1404594328;mircea_popescu;hottblonde4u you mean for ME ?! 745941;1404594343;hottblonde4u;Yes! I hear someone here wants to see My tits??/ :) 745942;1404594351;mircea_popescu;hehe okay. link to your prev work ? 745943;1404594381;hottblonde4u;http://www.reddit.com/user/hottblonde4u/ 745944;1404594382;assbot;overview for hottblonde4u 745945;1404594395;mircea_popescu;whu do i even ask, just paste handle to reddit 745946;1404594438;hottblonde4u;??? 745947;1404594460;mircea_popescu;hottblonde4u ok, put 48ab107d on your tits, take a picture. this is a good example for you : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684 745948;1404594461;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 745949;1404594520;hottblonde4u;You got it ~~~ 745950;1404594573;kakobrekla;what is the significance of the tildes 745951;1404594612;mircea_popescu;ahahahaah kakobrekla you will end up having a kind of humour named tits in your honor. 745952;1404594632;kakobrekla;:p 745953;1404594859;mircea_popescu;!up warptangent 745954;1404594888;mircea_popescu;!up RedStallion 745955;1404594902;mircea_popescu;!up nam-shub 745956;1404594934;mircea_popescu;!up Adohgg 745957;1404596158;mircea_popescu;!up hottblonde4u 745958;1404596193;hottblonde4u;http://imgur.com/a/oq7Sf#0 745959;1404596193;assbot;Bitcoin assets - Imgur 745960;1404596243;Dekker3D;Interesting pink streak in your hair, though it combined with the sharply-outlined wide eyes makes you look a bit like a Barbie doll :P 745961;1404596256;Dekker3D;Not meant to offend, it's just an interesting observation :) 745962;1404596332;hottblonde4u;I appreciate the observation... I've got nothing against Barbie, lol 745963;1404596363;mircea_popescu;hottblonde4u nice. address ? 745964;1404596375;hottblonde4u;1NGjYd2kDvSD27TyBtXRR91cWC2YNufUEE 745965;1404596430;mircea_popescu;cool. if you want to stick around you should proly register your name. 745966;1404596451;hottblonde4u;Thanks! :) 745967;1404596462;hottblonde4u;Have a great one everyone ~~ 745968;1404596466;mircea_popescu;u2 745969;1404596505;kakobrekla;wait whats the going rate for sharpie in the pooper? 745970;1404596513;kakobrekla;ah she gone. 745971;1404596538;mircea_popescu;they don't really figure out that where there's salmon roe there's probably also salmon. 745972;1404596637;Dekker3D;salmon roe? 745973;1404596662;mircea_popescu;http://www.cardinalsushi.com/images/80918_original.jpg this stuff 745974;1404596698;Dekker3D;Yeah, I googled it.. but I'm not sure I get what that remark of yours means. And I get inquisitive when I don't understand stuff :P 745975;1404596729;mircea_popescu;girl came for the .1 btc nibble, got it and left. 745976;1404596737;Dekker3D;Myeah.. 745977;1404596743;mircea_popescu;the rational approach is to stay where you got the nibble, not to leave. 745978;1404596748;Dekker3D;Heh. I was just starting to catch on to that. I'm slow 745979;1404596763;Dekker3D;Well, often when there's something juicy to nibble, you've got to watch out for the hook. 745980;1404596767;Dekker3D;But then again, we're not fish 745981;1404596768;mircea_popescu;exactly. 745982;1404596772;mircea_popescu;no, we are. 745983;1404596782;mircea_popescu;kinda what i suspect drove here, actually. 745984;1404596864;Dekker3D;Well, most fish wouldn't enjoy being hooked, would they? That's the main difference here, I guess 745985;1404596870;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu terk errr jeeeerrrrbs 745986;1404596884;mircea_popescu;lol 745987;1404596907;kakobrekla;isnt it jewbs 745988;1404596933;thestringpuller;;;google terk er jerbs 745989;1404596934;gribble;Southpark - They Took Our Job! - YouTube: ; They Took Er Jerbs DURKA DERRR south park - YouTube: ; they took our jobs - YouTube: 745990;1404597023;kakobrekla;like i said, jewbs. 745991;1404597215;Dekker3D;!up Guest20650 745992;1404597255;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQSx3OCrXQ << this is kinda lulzy. 745993;1404597255;assbot;Get Educated About Homosexuality - YouTube 745994;1404597291;mircea_popescu;so the argument towards homosexuality not being subjective is that well, twins are both homosexual in 70% of cases (unaudited, just what it claims) which then they compare with "being left handed". 745995;1404597292;Dekker3D;"christian" thinks homosexuality is a choice. Yep. This is starting perfectly. 745996;1404597301;mircea_popescu;except... being left handed is not a behaviour. homosexuality is. 745997;1404597312;mircea_popescu;if one of two twins eats at mcdonalds, 90% odds are the other does too. 745998;1404597318;mircea_popescu;so mcdonalds is thus genetic ? 745999;1404597341;mircea_popescu;no, it's just pervasive cultural norm. behaviours spread from trusted sources, and a twin has better thances than a guy on youtube to persuade. 746000;1404597370;Dekker3D;Well, if it were a choice.. why wouldn't everyone choose to be bisexual? More options! 746001;1404597383;chetty;left handiness can be cured, just ask the nuns with rulers 746002;1404597398;mircea_popescu;oddly enough, this is supported by practice. slavegirls are bisexual. 746003;1404597400;Dekker3D;That's sarcastic, right? 746004;1404597406;Dekker3D;Heh. 746005;1404597409;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D no, it actually can be cured. it's just painful. 746006;1404597438;mircea_popescu;but anyway, let me in passing register my displeasure with "scientists have". is it so fucking hard to say " McGee and Jonk have " ? 746007;1404597482;chetty;but consensus is a new law in science, hadnt you heard? 746008;1404597491;mircea_popescu;yeah right., 746009;1404597502;mircea_popescu;anyway this female antibody theory has got to be the laugh of all time 746010;1404597525;Dekker3D;Yeah, the antibody thing looked silly 746011;1404597533;mircea_popescu;chetty get a load of this : female body perceives male foetus as foreign, and generates unspecified "antibodies". the more boys a woman has, the more adept she is at this 746012;1404597542;mircea_popescu;and so the more she "feminizes" the fetus. intrauterine-ly. 746013;1404597558;chetty;omg, thats ridiculous 746014;1404597577;mircea_popescu;nothing to do with sexualisation pressures among groups of boys, or anything. 746015;1404597596;mircea_popescu;here's a simple solution : in any large population of males, some will be gay because the other want something to fuck. 746016;1404597599;mircea_popescu;someTHING to fuck. 746017;1404597601;mircea_popescu;problem solved. 746018;1404597627;chetty;well since women have fewer children these days the number of gays should be going down if this is true, pretty easy to check :P 746019;1404597631;mircea_popescu;definitely works a lot better to explain prison homosexuality, unless prison buildings ALSO secrete hormones. 746020;1404597652;mircea_popescu;chetty funny how many ways there are to show broken "scientists agree" is broken. 746021;1404597677;chetty;if it wasn't so easy it would be fun 746022;1404597678;test532451243214;"scientists agree" is pretty useless if you can't link to actual results 746023;1404597706;test532451243214;I mean.. two rocket scientists could agree that homosexuality is or isn't a choice. 746024;1404597715;test532451243214;Scientists would be agreeing, but it would prove absolutely nothing :P 746025;1404597715;mircea_popescu;test532451243214 even more useless if those "scientists" are people being paid a salary by a government, as an idle exercise in trying to create jerbs. 746026;1404597719;test532451243214;Whoops 746027;1404597729;Dekker3D;Wanted to find out some nickserv stuff 746028;1404597747;Dekker3D;I suppose so. 746029;1404597773;Dekker3D;"creating jobs" seems like the wrong goal anyway. More and more jobs are being replaced by robots. We should be focusing on a society that can handle mass automation 746030;1404597788;mircea_popescu;that society is selective. 746031;1404597795;Dekker3D;Oh? 746032;1404597804;mircea_popescu;democratic structures wish to promote inclusive societies. 746033;1404597809;mircea_popescu;there's no solution to this problem. 746034;1404597817;chetty;buggy makers found ways 746035;1404597836;mircea_popescu;chetty automotive society is inclusive. that part was easy. 746036;1404597838;Dekker3D;Ah. You're saying that those who aren't smart enough to be irreplacable would always find themselves left out, in a world where automation runs rampant? 746037;1404597848;mircea_popescu;chetty the idea was "everyone a car" see ? 746038;1404597855;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D exactly. 746039;1404597863;chetty;everyone a robot :P 746040;1404597864;mircea_popescu;selective. must be this tall to ride. 746041;1404597867;mircea_popescu;inclusive. everyone's invited. 746042;1404597891;mircea_popescu;the wild west was selective. 746043;1404597897;mircea_popescu;and guess what ? it fucking selected to all hell. 746044;1404597899;chetty;(questions is be one/own one/fix one) 746045;1404597934;chetty;;;lasers 746046;1404597935;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 746047;1404597974;Dekker3D;True, but automation is not a thing we can really push back 746048;1404597994;Dekker3D;Unless it threatens to destroy us all, like fucking up nature with CO2 and stuff does. 746049;1404598009;Dekker3D;So we're going to have to find a way to live with it, I'd guess. 746050;1404598012;mircea_popescu;everything always "threatens to destroy us all" 746051;1404598027;mircea_popescu;ask hitler. half his microphone time was about how they were threatened to be all destroyed. 746052;1404598075;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00081158 = 5.2347 BTC [-] {2} 746053;1404598090;Dekker3D;People always say things threaten to destroy us all. And yeah, it's a favoured tool of anyone trying to convince the masses. 746054;1404598114;Dekker3D;But people actually believe the CO2 thing because it makes some sense. People aren't similarly convinced that robots will fuck up our lives. 746055;1404598143;Dekker3D;The same argument applies to bitcoin: nobody really believes it'll kill off half of humanity if left unchecked. 746056;1404598158;mircea_popescu;people were similarly convicned the 2k year bug was going to destroy us all 746057;1404598160;Dekker3D;So people don't put in an organized, honest attempt to stop it 746058;1404598163;mircea_popescu;and more recently, a day in may 2012. 746059;1404598183;mircea_popescu;but yes, bitcoin will definitely kil off half of humanity. 746060;1404598189;mircea_popescu;that half is mostly english speaking currently. 746061;1404598195;Dekker3D;Do explain 746062;1404598203;mircea_popescu;;;google bitcoin not for the poor 746063;1404598204;gribble;CGAP: Bitcoin Not Helping the Poor | Lets Talk Bitcoin: ; Lessons From Mobile Payments: Bitcoin Will Not Help the Poor or ...: ; Bitcoin for the poor – a no-cash business plan for the 'next (1 more message) 746064;1404598244;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-and-the-poor/ 746065;1404598245;assbot;Bitcoin and the poor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 746066;1404598252;mircea_popescu;ill have to start learning what the titles actually are i guess. 746067;1404599135;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.42744945 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 9(Y):91(N) by weight. Total bet: 13.72917878 BTC. Current weight: 88,753. 746068;1404599169;Dekker3D;I'm not sure if I understand the link between this TL;DRish article and english speaking people. If bitcoin won't help the poor, then wouldn't it be mostly non-english-speakers who would be hit by it? I'd imagine there's more poor people that don't speak english 746069;1404599306;mircea_popescu;there's little difference between a poor indian and a middle class us citizen today, except 746070;1404599319;mircea_popescu;that the poor indian has the skills to survive as a poor indian, which the us guy does not 746071;1404599329;mircea_popescu;and that the us guy has a government giving him money, which won't survive. 746072;1404599478;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00081521 = 16.7118 BTC [+] 746073;1404599485;Dekker3D;Ah. 746074;1404599501;Dekker3D;I forgot that a lot of english-speakers are in the US. Durp. 746075;1404599512;mircea_popescu;i did mean as an only language. 746076;1404599525;Dekker3D;Yeah. I didn't catch that. 746077;1404599541;Dekker3D;I thought you meant "people who speak english" which would include most of the better-educated people of any country. 746078;1404599563;mircea_popescu;nah, people who speak english as a second language actually are in the better position i imagine. 746079;1404599570;Dekker3D;Yeah. That was my point too. 746080;1404599600;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00081314 = 8.8632 BTC [-] 746081;1404599601;Dekker3D;I mean, I consider myself to be more of an english-speaker than a dutch-speaker, despite growing up in the netherlands 746082;1404599700;mircea_popescu;interesting 746083;1404599709;Dekker3D;So okay. Better point perhaps, the -rich- don't think that they'll be killed by bitcoin 746084;1404599727;Dekker3D;While they might think that there's at least some risk to having too much CO2 in the atmosphere 746085;1404599803;mircea_popescu;they're not going to get killed by that, either. 746086;1404599812;mircea_popescu;and they don't think they will in any case. 746087;1404599872;Dekker3D;But they might think they will 746088;1404599883;Dekker3D;While they're probably quite convinced they won't actually die from bitcoin 746089;1404599909;mircea_popescu;i suspect it's backwards 746090;1404599915;mircea_popescu;provided they had heard of either. 746091;1404599978;Dekker3D;Hm. 746092;1404600010;Dekker3D;Well, that depends on how smart you figure them to be. There's a lot of smart and dumb folks who ended up with a lot of money. 746093;1404600017;Dekker3D;I suppose I let my misanthropy guide me again. 746094;1404600077;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrpjCrmD4s << lmao this shit's preety good 746095;1404600077;assbot;Korgoth Of Barbaria I. [HunSub] - YouTube 746096;1404600679;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcMnO8tqcPo 746097;1404600679;assbot;Disney's Secret Sexual Messages Conspiracy - Conspiracy Cinema - YouTube 746098;1404600732;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 746099;1404600780;Dekker3D;Welp. Someone logged in using indiancandy (mind the lack of the 1) and it isn't my friend. 746100;1404600790;Dekker3D;Or maybe it is her, she says. Durp. 746101;1404600822;indiancandy1;my god 746102;1404600825;indiancandy1;wat a hassle 746103;1404600829;mircea_popescu;lol 746104;1404600838;mircea_popescu;how can you be such a noob candygirl 746105;1404600841;indiancandy1;no seriosly 746106;1404600849;indiancandy1;i cant belive how complicated you made this 746107;1404600865;Dekker3D;Heh.. that part is standard IRC. 746108;1404600870;Dekker3D;Geek toys aren't the most user-friendly 746109;1404600884;Dekker3D;They ARE the most versatile and powerful most of the time, though 746110;1404600899;indiancandy1;wow 746111;1404600906;indiancandy1;okay now i need 2 be come 746112;1404600909;indiancandy1;a member of trust 746113;1404600916;indiancandy1;i feel asif im joinin the illuminati 746114;1404600917;indiancandy1;lol 746115;1404600923;mircea_popescu;that's funny 746116;1404600927;mircea_popescu;seeing how... you are. 746117;1404600954;indiancandy1;is moeity 746118;1404600956;indiancandy1;gone offline 746119;1404601040;Dekker3D;Heh. Don't confuse the poor lady any more than she has to be. Nobody's joining the illuminati here. We don't allow that at the freemason's secret headquarters. 746120;1404601064;Dekker3D;It seems moiety's offline, yeah. 746121;1404601183;indiancandy1;dekker is this true 746122;1404601187;indiancandy1;that 746123;1404601189;indiancandy1;in holland 746124;1404601203;indiancandy1;if you start your own religion and get a certain amount of followers 746125;1404601207;indiancandy1;the goverment fund u 746126;1404601282;Dekker3D;Hm. I don't know about that, tbh. 746127;1404601298;indiancandy1;thereis a religion 746128;1404601300;indiancandy1;sexual 1 746129;1404601301;Dekker3D;I've never been very interested in starting my own religion, but Dekkerianism does have a certain ring to it 746130;1404601304;indiancandy1;having sex in the woods 746131;1404601316;indiancandy1;saw a documentry on it 746132;1404601317;Dekker3D;And they get paid, because they believe in having sex in the woods? 746133;1404601322;indiancandy1;i dunno 746134;1404601327;indiancandy1;i cant remember exactly 746135;1404601329;Dekker3D;I think I call that "winning at life" 746136;1404601332;indiancandy1;they was on sexetra 746137;1404601333;indiancandy1;ahaha 746138;1404601439;kakobrekla;does it have to be woods? 746139;1404601443;indiancandy1;ye 746140;1404601448;kakobrekla;idiots. 746141;1404601464;kakobrekla;you get ticks there. 746142;1404601525;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 746143;1404601530;gribble;Current Blocks: 309390 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1073 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16640938359.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.05552 746144;1404601546;thestringpuller;weirdest difficulty in a long time.... 746145;1404602124;indiancandy1;wats ticks 746146;1404602365;indiancandy1;no one talks here 746147;1404602368;indiancandy1;whats the deal 746148;1404602443;thestringpuller;indiancandy1: they do eventually... 746149;1404602521;indiancandy1;im bored 746150;1404602528;indiancandy1;tell me something 746151;1404602531;indiancandy1;interesting 746152;1404602533;thestringpuller;go do work 746153;1404602540;indiancandy1;? 746154;1404602542;indiancandy1;what work 746155;1404602556;thestringpuller;something useful? 746156;1404602572;thestringpuller;if you're bored you should be using that time to develop a new skill or relax for when times get busy... 746157;1404602590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00081314 = 1.545 BTC [-] 746158;1404602595;Dekker3D;Heh.. he/she has a point. I'm barely ever bored, I just spend that time reading up 746159;1404602597;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 746160;1404602599;thestringpuller;!up indiancandy1 746161;1404602606;thestringpuller;lol 746162;1404602612;Dekker3D;Beat you to it 746163;1404602615;Dekker3D;Heh. 746164;1404602651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.0008126 = 2.3972 BTC [-] 746165;1404602657;thestringpuller;I wonder if miners are collectively pulling the plug on the hashrate... 746166;1404602662;thestringpuller;;;estimate 746167;1404602664;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 16670351595.0 based on data since last change | 17786751323.1 based on data for last three days 746168;1404602686;Dekker3D;Low price for a while 746169;1404602699;thestringpuller;;;ticker 746170;1404602700;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 627.78, Best ask: 630.54, Bid-ask spread: 2.76000, Last trade: 627.78, 24 hour volume: 1821.92569239, 24 hour low: 623.23, 24 hour high: 632.97, 24 hour vwap: 629.4869675 746171;1404602707;thestringpuller;highest it's been in months... 746172;1404602715;thestringpuller;(with consistency) 746173;1404602719;Dekker3D;Well, that's the thing. It's been low for months 746174;1404602725;thestringpuller;low? 746175;1404602731;Dekker3D;So, miners were mining less because there was less earnings per block. 746176;1404602735;Dekker3D;Measured in fiat 746177;1404602772;Dekker3D;.... Right. It's just part of that weird cycle, and actually higher than the previous average. 746178;1404602775;Dekker3D;Dunno. 746179;1404602790;thestringpuller;you can pay off a miner in about 140 days (given consistent difficulty increases and no extra capital investment)... 746180;1404602809;Dekker3D;High price = lots of miners buying equipment = lots of hashrate; low price after that = lots of miners who can't afford to run their equipment = lowering hashrate 746181;1404602835;Dekker3D;But that's just a guess. I've never mined any SHA coins, wouldn't know if ASICs are worth the mess. 746182;1404602845;thestringpuller;that's not true tho...because as hashrate increases the tech becomes cheaper 746183;1404602849;Dekker3D;Seems like an easy way to get ripped off by something like BFL 746184;1404602936;thestringpuller;Bitcoin ASIC's are getting close to CPU size...(in terms of shoving transistors onto a thing) 746185;1404602946;thestringpuller;"wafer" 746186;1404602968;thestringpuller;wen from like ~60nm down to ~20 in less than 2 years? 746187;1404602991;thestringpuller;i guess technically one if you base it on avalon's delivery in early 2013... 746188;1404603050;kakobrekla;could be a dc had an outage 746189;1404603055;Dekker3D;Eh. 746190;1404603069;indiancandy1;donate me some btc 746191;1404603079;indiancandy1;il show my nipple 746192;1404603080;Dekker3D;There's just a lot of suspicious "delays". I'd rather have something where everyone has equal access, gpus 746193;1404603080;indiancandy1;lol 746194;1404603093;Dekker3D;Lol. Being blunt? I suppose that works. 746195;1404603099;kakobrekla;indiancandy1 donate to me and ill show you mine 746196;1404603111;nubbins`;kakobrekla i've seen tildes used as exclamation points in the past 746197;1404603122;nubbins`;popular in some places apparently 746198;1404603137;thestringpuller;Dekker3D: "equal opportunity" << this isn't socialism... 746199;1404603148;kakobrekla;weird. i cant even produce that sign with my keyboard. 746200;1404603151;thestringpuller;hustle for the fruits of your labor 746201;1404603157;Dekker3D;True, but it beats having a worse opportunity than the rest. 746202;1404603158;thestringpuller;``````````````` 746203;1404603169;thestringpuller;why because of "fairness"? 746204;1404603193;thestringpuller;that's knocking the hustle because you can't make the same connections other people make... 746205;1404603195;Dekker3D;If I can choose between having the same opportunities as everyone else, or being behind a group of others, I'll choose having the same opportunities 746206;1404603200;Dekker3D;Hence why I mined Scrypt, not SHA 746207;1404603211;nubbins`;kakobrekla, it's shift-` for me 746208;1404603235;kakobrekla;no, i know where it is suppose to be, i just have it remapped. 746209;1404603237;Dekker3D;I have no connections in ASIC producing companies, no. Making connections has always been one of my weaker points. 746210;1404603240;nubbins`;o 746211;1404603247;indiancandy1;dekker 746212;1404603251;indiancandy1;congz 746213;1404603254;indiancandy1;holland are through 746214;1404603258;indiancandy1;in the world cup 746215;1404603268;Dekker3D;Neat. 746216;1404603284;indiancandy1;yh 746217;1404603287;Dekker3D;One more team to beat and they're the world champion for the first time in.. 4 decades or so? I don't really even keep track of football. 746218;1404603294;thestringpuller;Dekker3D: that's cause you aren't chinese and have access to workers who will fab chips for < $2 / hr 746219;1404603303;thestringpuller;and don't have* 746220;1404603390;Dekker3D;Yep 746221;1404603398;thestringpuller;but as well Dekker3D people have found away around the memory wall on SCRYPT and alas are producing parallelized chips for that algo... 746222;1404603407;Dekker3D;I know 746223;1404603410;thestringpuller;are they not entitlted to their hustle? 746224;1404603413;thestringpuller;their hardwork? 746225;1404603415;indiancandy1;HUP HUP HOLLAND !! 746226;1404603417;Dekker3D;I used to mine Scrypt. I don't anymore 746227;1404603439;Dekker3D;I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying I'm getting the fuck out, and mining something that hasn't been ASIC'd yet 746228;1404603466;thestringpuller;haha I'm trying to find a way around that, hustle with the asics 746229;1404603466;Dekker3D;... Well, as soon as I get around to replacing a water pump. I did some silly things in setting up my mining rig. It wasn't all that serious anyway. 746230;1404603482;Dekker3D;Cool. If you find a way and don't mind sharing, I'd love to hear about it 746231;1404603508;thestringpuller;i dunno how mature the market is: people liek lunaminer and petaminer are making it a bit...difficult 746232;1404603510;Dekker3D;But until then, I'm going with GPU/CPU-only coins over ASIC-minable coins. 746233;1404603515;thestringpuller;like the days of GIGAMINING 746234;1404603541;Dekker3D;Hm. You were planning to actually make connections, targetting a specific company? 746235;1404603548;thestringpuller;seems within mining infrastructure there is always a scam on some level... 746236;1404603561;kakobrekla; are they not entitlted to their hustle? < no., cause http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=194 746237;1404603561;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 746238;1404603593;thestringpuller;point taken kako ~_~ 746239;1404603608;thestringpuller;when you're hustlin' to scam, it ain't really hustling now is it? 746240;1404603613;Dekker3D;Yep, thestringpuller 746241;1404603621;Dekker3D;Always some scam 746242;1404603705;mircea_popescu; you get ticks there. << i think you only get ticks if does live thre. 746243;1404603734;kakobrekla;not by my experience. 746244;1404603837;mircea_popescu;i don't think i ever had a tick 746245;1404603911;kakobrekla;luck you 746246;1404603916;kakobrekla;maybe you just dont go out much. 746247;1404603926;benkay;internet is so slow at the mountain home that the camgirl imgur galleries take too long to load 746248;1404603963;benkay;loving the bittits tho 746249;1404603993;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36719 @ 0.00081257 = 29.8368 BTC [-] {2} 746250;1404604006;kakobrekla;should come with "thought of the day" below pics. 746251;1404604013;benkay;http://imgur.com/a/oq7Sf#0 // your eyes are staring into my soul honey 746252;1404604013;assbot;Bitcoin assets - Imgur 746253;1404604031;kakobrekla;close it before she downloads it all. 746254;1404604246;thestringpuller;there is a bittits.us? 746255;1404604361;mircea_popescu;Dekker3D> I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying I'm getting the fuck out, and mining something that hasn't been ASIC'd yet << this is like saying you'll farm a product that's not globalized yet. 746256;1404604362;mircea_popescu;glwt. 746257;1404604375;mircea_popescu;the only reason it's not been globalised is that it sucks. 746258;1404604424;mircea_popescu; seems within mining infrastructure there is always a scam on some level... << quite. 746259;1404604438;Dekker3D;Or because it takes a while to develop ASICs and would only be started when it looks profitable enough? 746260;1404604456;mircea_popescu;which means... 746261;1404604520;Dekker3D;That you can use the gpu you already have to make a bit of profit mining some new algorithm before ASICs show up 746262;1404604534;thestringpuller;dogecoin anyone? 746263;1404604538;Dekker3D;And when ASICs show up, you can just go to the next big thing. 746264;1404604539;*;mircea_popescu shrugs 746265;1404604573;Dekker3D;Litecoin was before Dogecoin. Dunno about other Scrypt altcoins before that 746266;1404604594;Dekker3D;Darkcoin attempts to do the same thing again, though I know another altcoin had the same algorithm earlier 746267;1404604597;benkay;turtles turtling turtles turtling turtles all the way into the future 746268;1404604618;benkay;who the fuck makes money mining when the fiat govts are willing to print to do it 746269;1404604632;benkay;its like people can't fn in2 mafs or somethign 746270;1404604639;mircea_popescu;benkay word. 746271;1404604654;benkay;arghag 746272;1404604660;benkay;ragequits are cheap at the cabin 746273;1404604667;benkay;there's girls and booze n shits 746274;1404604670;*;benkay ragequits 746275;1404604673;mircea_popescu;got a hard cock and some time to kill, what diff does it make it's all in a cage ? 746276;1404604678;mircea_popescu;kids gonna have fun 746277;1404604679;thestringpuller;girl*** ftfy 746278;1404604702;benkay;hey my imagination counts 746279;1404604727;benkay;despite all my rage, i am still just a derp in a cage 746280;1404604751;mircea_popescu;'Yes! I have!' Ruska groaned in agony, lying on his back tightly clutching the pillow to him. He breathed into it, and the pillow returned the warmth of his own youth, condemned to spend itself in the bitter sterility of bringing to a white heat his young, caged body which begged for release and found none. He wanted to believe that he had a girl, but he had nothing at all to go on - not even a kiss, or a promise. Ther 746281;1404604751;mircea_popescu;e had been nothing more than a look of sympathy on a girl's face as she had listened to him, earlier that evening, telling his story. And for the first time, seeing himself mirrored in the girl's eyes, Ruska felt there was something heroic and out of the ordinary about his life. There was nothing between them yet, but he felt something had happened that gave him the right to say he had a girl. 746282;1404604753;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 746283;1404604754;mircea_popescu;'Who is she?' Gleb asked. 746284;1404604756;mircea_popescu;Raising the blanket just a little Ruska answered from the darkness: 'Shhh - Clara-' 746285;1404604758;mircea_popescu;'Clara? The prosecutor's daughter?' 746286;1404604835;benkay;"and the bows are a particularly interesting find that possibly symbolised power" // i thought they were tools for the killin of folks 746287;1404604916;[]bot;Bet created: "Argentina beats Netherlands" http://bitbet.us/bet/991/ 746288;1404605028;indiancandy1;are you ruska 746289;1404605061;mircea_popescu;i guess literature isn't your strong point ? 746290;1404605091;benkay;http://pastebin.com/w9Q42Zkm 746291;1404605091;assbot;11:52 ~ Guest48465 is now ninjashogun 11:52 ~ ninjashogun is now Guest45992 - Pastebin.com 746292;1404605095;benkay;http://pastebin.com/pZFCFVYX 746293;1404605095;assbot;12:22 Irssi: >>> Join to #bitcoin-offtopic was synced in 1 secs 12:22 >>> nin - Pastebin.com 746294;1404605117;benkay;it's gotta be incompetence, right? 746295;1404605176;mircea_popescu;i ain't readin' that. 746296;1404605199;benkay;nails. coffins. 746297;1404605237;benkay;how about this one http://panampost.com/belen-marty/2014/07/04/move-over-kickstarter-swarm-crypto-equity-is-the-next-frontier/ 746298;1404605238;assbot;Move Over Kickstarter, Crypto-Equity Is the Next Frontier 746299;1404605258;indiancandy1;omg 746300;1404605262;indiancandy1;mp is ignoring me 746301;1404605262;benkay;tee hee hee hee 746302;1404605263;indiancandy1;lol 746303;1404605298;mircea_popescu;benkay tis lin teh logs. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2014#745857 746304;1404605298;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 746305;1404605311;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 im not ignoring you. but you gotta have something to say. 746306;1404605338;[]bot;Bet placed: 32.335 BTC for No on "Argentina beats Netherlands" http://bitbet.us/bet/991/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 61(Y):39(N) by weight. Total bet: 82.435 BTC. Current weight: 99,887. 746307;1404605340;[]bot;Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Argentina beats Netherlands" http://bitbet.us/bet/991/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 61(Y):39(N) by weight. Total bet: 82.435 BTC. Current weight: 99,887. 746308;1404605391;benkay;waaaaat? 746309;1404605392;mircea_popescu;that's a doozy 746310;1404605444;indiancandy1;so im just suppose 2 sit here 746311;1404605447;indiancandy1;and read ur chat log 746312;1404605451;mircea_popescu;Yes pays: 1.61724598 BTC No pays: 2.47530587 BTC << meanwhile line bookies seem to offer 1.45 / 2.25 746313;1404605488;benkay;indiancandy1: it's not *that* hard. 746314;1404605540;mircea_popescu;not everyone's into readin'. 746315;1404605585;benkay;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7993307 746316;1404605586;assbot;It may work, it may not. I have my doubts but I'm very happy this exists. We nee... | Hacker News 746317;1404605657;indiancandy1;i dont get it though 746318;1404605668;indiancandy1;i dont understand anything your talkin about 746319;1404605671;indiancandy1;im feelin lonely 746320;1404605673;indiancandy1;left out 746321;1404605684;mircea_popescu;sucks huh. 746322;1404605691;indiancandy1;big time 746323;1404605693;indiancandy1;i wanna cry 746324;1404605720;mircea_popescu;#bitcoin-assets, the place camwhores come to feel left out and cry ? 746325;1404606167;indiancandy1;the pussy wetter then puddles 746326;1404606372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5189 @ 0.00081361 = 4.2218 BTC [+] {2} 746327;1404606582;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 746328;1404606677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.1999571 = 2.7994 BTC [+] {5} 746329;1404608421;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-june-statement/ 746330;1404609430;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.5 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 46(Y):54(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 17,013. 746331;1404609544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.201 = 2.01 BTC [+] 746332;1404611069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10909 @ 0.00081687 = 8.9112 BTC [+] 746333;1404612310;[]bot;Bet created: "Brazil beats Germany" http://bitbet.us/bet/992/ 746334;1404612495;asciilifeform;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7992893 746335;1404612495;assbot;@corpselord420: your interesting comment is unreadable by most HN readers, becau... | Hacker News 746336;1404612499;asciilifeform;^ hn 'hellbanning' explained 746337;1404612545;mircea_popescu;sooo... what ? 746338;1404612554;mircea_popescu;you teh corpselord ? 746339;1404612559;asciilifeform;nope 746340;1404612568;asciilifeform;just found the explicit mention somewhat surprising 746341;1404612584;asciilifeform;usually they just do it, sans talking. 746342;1404612592;mircea_popescu;stupid idea in the first place. 746343;1404612614;asciilifeform;stupid idea that hn is famous for 746344;1404612937;mircea_popescu;o ? i had no idea 746345;1404613201;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2014#710960 746346;1404613202;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 746347;1404613403;mircea_popescu;lol sec 746348;1404613590;mircea_popescu;the strange day you get example.com in your referrer list 746349;1404613598;asciilifeform;lol 746350;1404613608;asciilifeform;almost certainly a misconfigured refer-header spamatron. 746351;1404613625;mircea_popescu;prolly 746352;1404615390;peterl;is S.MPOE paying dividends? 746353;1404615775;benkay;http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-june-2014-combined-statement/ // huh not entirely clear 746354;1404615777;assbot;MPOE, May 2014 and June 2014 Combined Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 746355;1404615813;benkay;compare to: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ 746356;1404615814;assbot;MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 746357;1404616050;peterl;right, why no shareholders table and dividend this month? 746358;1404618084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00081238 = 1.5435 BTC [-] 746359;1404618307;kyuupichan;Ooh, new colours on bitbet 746360;1404620253;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 37(Y):63(N) by coin, 37(Y):63(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.23105324 BTC. Current weight: 98,603. 746361;1404621500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00081215 = 4.9541 BTC [-] 746362;1404621927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00081215 = 8.3651 BTC [-] 746363;1404623006;kyuupichan;Does 16tAo on bitbet hang out here? 746364;1404623030;peterl;which bet is the address from? 746365;1404623190;kyuupichan;It has many bets. Did a big one on Argentina vs Netherlands (32 BTC) a couple of hours ago 746366;1404623201;kyuupichan;Is it kakobrekla I wonder. 746367;1404623513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1286 @ 0.00081215 = 1.0444 BTC [-] 746368;1404624977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8064 @ 0.00081198 = 6.5478 BTC [-] {2} 746369;1404626614;mircea_popescu;peterl yeah 746370;1404626622;mircea_popescu;benkay so it's shorter an' cleanner 746371;1404626627;mircea_popescu;!up dxrt 746372;1404626634;mircea_popescu;!up olo_ 746373;1404626990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33114 @ 0.00081353 = 26.9392 BTC [+] {2} 746374;1404627719;punkman;morning 746375;1404627810;punkman;logs done and I didn't even finish my tea 746376;1404627834;mircea_popescu;incredible huh 746377;1404627865;punkman;maybe I should start reading the old ones 746378;1404627921;mircea_popescu;that's a thought 746379;1404627936;mircea_popescu;i wonder whatever happened to fluffypony's summary initiative. 746380;1404627944;punkman;despair? 746381;1404627996;nanotube;thestringpuller: to get the whole rating db, just grab the sqlite db file. 746382;1404628041;punkman;nanotube: last time I looked for that I couldn't find the link 746383;1404628245;nanotube;punkman: http://bitcoin-otc.com/otc/ 746384;1404628245;assbot;Index of /otc 746385;1404628393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10258 @ 0.00081106 = 8.3199 BTC [-] {2} 746386;1404628394;punkman;thanks ;) 746387;1404628649;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/ImKgrNA.jpg 746388;1404628842;punkman;that's a great line 746389;1404628957;mircea_popescu;it comes from... omfg... gasp... 746390;1404628963;mircea_popescu;it comes from a subreddit i actually like 746391;1404628970;mircea_popescu;"VII. Downvote any whiteknighting and moralfaggotry you see. This applies to breakers of rule III. We aren't here to listen to complaining and those who are offended. There is no line to cross here. If you witness any user preaching the moral high ground then downvote them immediately. Chronic moral crusaders will be banned. Thin skinned, special snowflake, social justice warrior types are encouraged to go elsewhere." 746392;1404629491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00081389 = 3.459 BTC [+] 746393;1404629650;dub;spacedicks? 746394;1404629671;punkman;dickspace 746395;1404629863;punkman;http://www.weareplanc.org/we-are-all-very-anxious/ 746396;1404629864;assbot;Plan C | Plan C 746397;1404629981;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/iamgoingtohellforthis/comments/29yc5w/rip_molly_mcflea/ 746398;1404629982;assbot;RIP Molly McFlea : iamgoingtohellforthis 746399;1404630223;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00081111 = 19.8316 BTC [-] {3} 746400;1404630493;punkman;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wages_for_housework 746401;1404630493;assbot;Wages for housework - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 746402;1404630742;punkman;ecash blast from the past: http://yoz.com/wired/2.05/abacus.html 746403;1404630742;assbot;WIRED 2.05: DIY Cash 746404;1404631207;mircea_popescu;ancient stuff. 746405;1404632053;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17567 @ 0.00080898 = 14.2114 BTC [-] {2} 746406;1404632602;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60050 @ 0.00080811 = 48.527 BTC [-] {4} 746407;1404633639;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19452 @ 0.00080754 = 15.7083 BTC [-] 746408;1404634310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 71 @ 0.03717957 = 2.6397 BTC [-] {3} 746409;1404634985;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust csm 746410;1404634986;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user csm: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=csm | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=csm | Rated since: Wed Apr 10 08:45:31 2013 746411;1404636268;mircea_popescu;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=195 746412;1404636268;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 746413;1404636270;mircea_popescu;such lulzy 746414;1404636872;mircea_popescu;;;seen firedrops 746415;1404636872;gribble;firedrops was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 33 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 33 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: yup, still a word. 746416;1404636886;mircea_popescu;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18 << so this guy firedrops has the #1 bash spot by points. 746417;1404636886;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 746418;1404639434;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8103 @ 0.00080952 = 6.5595 BTC [+] 746419;1404639983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 212 @ 0.03578557 = 7.5865 BTC [-] {4} 746420;1404641691;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 400 @ 0.00205619 = 0.8225 BTC [+] {2} 746421;1404643216;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00081015 = 13.1244 BTC [+] {2} 746422;1404643948;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23323 @ 0.00080872 = 18.8618 BTC [-] 746423;1404644070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00080871 = 4.3266 BTC [-] {2} 746424;1404646022;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19793 @ 0.00080911 = 16.0147 BTC [+] {2} 746425;1404646632;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2634 @ 0.00080841 = 2.1294 BTC [-] 746426;1404646754;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8747 @ 0.00080818 = 7.0692 BTC [-] 746427;1404647195;FabianB;kakobrekla: nice new colorign of resolved bets 746428;1404647217;kakobrekla;yes much more gay. 746429;1404647389;cazalla;resolved header didn't make it clear enough? 746430;1404647697;kakobrekla;what do you mean? 746431;1404647840;cazalla;what i thought i meant, i didn't 746432;1404647888;cazalla;colour denotes winning side, didn't think of that when i spoke 746433;1404648843;ThickAsThieves;what's up with these notes on some of my bitbets? https://blockchain.info/address/1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk 746434;1404648843;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk 746435;1404648877;ThickAsThieves;"Public Note: BitBet.us - Rejected" 746436;1404649180;kakobrekla;rejected is rejected proposal 746437;1404649395;ThickAsThieves;but the tx's that have the note are me sending bets, not proposals 746438;1404649402;ThickAsThieves;and they are accepted bets 746439;1404649431;ThickAsThieves;how does an outgoing tx from me get a note like that? 746440;1404649644;kakobrekla;umm 746441;1404649651;kakobrekla;the note is for 1btc incoming 746442;1404649741;ThickAsThieves;see pm 746443;1404649908;ThickAsThieves;case closed, my eyes are dumbv 746444;1404650034;ThickAsThieves;all my bets get rejected, sometimes i kinda wish the mods would just fix the bet to their criticisms, but i can see how that would get hairy 746445;1404650058;kakobrekla;its hairy if there is zeroconf on it 746446;1404650067;ThickAsThieves;yeah 746447;1404650075;ThickAsThieves;like, just take the gist of my bet and get that shit represented 746448;1404650084;kakobrekla;but yeah, see, they changed my bet significantly and it was zeroconfed 746449;1404650089;kakobrekla;i bitched, internally. 746450;1404650103;ThickAsThieves;i understand 746451;1404650108;ThickAsThieves;but i want what i wnat too 746452;1404650113;kakobrekla;and by internally i mean in my mind solely. 746453;1404650118;ThickAsThieves;lol 746454;1404650148;chetty;http://www.michaelcrichton.net/essay-stateoffear-whypoliticizedscienceisdangerous.html 746455;1404650149;assbot;MichaelCrichton.com | This Essay Breaks the Law 746456;1404650167;kakobrekla;cause on the end, the change made it to the other way. 746457;1404650171;kakobrekla;:D 746458;1404650181;kakobrekla;s/to/go 746459;1404650210;kakobrekla;nevertheless i personally encourage this. 746460;1404650316;ThickAsThieves;like with the DJI bet, I was trying to call the top, and mod told me to bet on the one that called the bottom instead :/ twas more work to reject it and send my money back than to just post it probly 746461;1404650347;kakobrekla;actually its just a click. 746462;1404650360;ThickAsThieves;posting is 2 clicks? 746463;1404650362;ThickAsThieves;;) 746464;1404650374;kakobrekla;yes, the second being at resolution time :) 746465;1404650389;ThickAsThieves;the mod lyf 746466;1404650398;kakobrekla;lol 746467;1404650420;kakobrekla;but great pains must be endured before you can do the second click. 746468;1404651329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00080754 = 5.6528 BTC [-] 746469;1404652140;ThickAsThieves;interesting, gmail has a pop-up saying i can 'send money easily' via email now 746470;1404652154;ThickAsThieves;uses Google Wallet 746471;1404652334;ThickAsThieves;still looking for someone to work on the ATC wallet... 746472;1404652490;chetty;we need a jobs board 746473;1404652715;ThickAsThieves;hmm apparently there are several bitcoin job sites 746474;1404652867;ThickAsThieves;this is fun, watch all the startups compete for bitcoin jobs http://bitcoin.jobamatic.com/a/jobs/find-jobs 746475;1404652869;assbot;BitCoin Jobs 746476;1404652879;ThickAsThieves;Circle, COinbase, Amazon 746477;1404653220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9681 @ 0.00080823 = 7.8245 BTC [+] 746478;1404653510;chetty;maybe a blog post about jobs here to help you get a wot rating? 746479;1404654745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00080754 = 9.0848 BTC [-] 746480;1404655336;ThickAsThieves;i may have found a guy 746481;1404655342;ThickAsThieves;will report 746482;1404656575;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00080823 = 11.7193 BTC [+] 746483;1404657490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00081006 = 14.4191 BTC [+] {3} 746484;1404657612;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00080739 = 17.8433 BTC [-] {2} 746485;1404657917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.03079906 = 1.54 BTC [-] 746486;1404659015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00081069 = 7.4178 BTC [+] 746487;1404659743;FabianB;oh lol, former German Minister of Economics and then Minister of Defence who scammed his PhD joined Ripple https://ripple.com/blog/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-joins-ripple-labs-advisory-board/ 746488;1404659744;assbot;Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg Joins Ripple Labs Advisory Board | Ripple 746489;1404659931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.00080633 = 22.6982 BTC [-] {2} 746490;1404660300;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 746491;1404660301;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 634.0, Best ask: 635.62, Bid-ask spread: 1.62000, Last trade: 633.41, 24 hour volume: 3291.51125981, 24 hour low: 622.86, 24 hour high: 639.0, 24 hour vwap: 631.498631569 746492;1404660489;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: like with the DJI bet, I was trying to call the top, and mod told me to bet on the one that called the bottom instead :/ twas more work to reject it and send my money back than to just post it probly << well generally, the mod goes by "this is all the btc this person has" 746493;1404660502;mircea_popescu;so it was "for this much btc, to get the bet accepted, you need the other side" 746494;1404660514;mircea_popescu;if you don't have those restraints, put proportionally more on the other side, it makes no diff. 746495;1404660554;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: hmm apparently there are several bitcoin job sites << yet none that i like. 746496;1404660567;mircea_popescu;because for some reason the people that i like won't get workin' on it ;/ 746497;1404660588;mircea_popescu;FabianB they do have the talent huh. 746498;1404660840;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/991/argentina-beats-netherlands/#c3328 << someone is seriously arguing that this "game 62 is ambiguous" bs. oh internets. 746499;1404660840;assbot;BitBet - Argentina beats Netherlands :: 50.07 B (60%) on Yes, 32.91 B (40%) on No | closing in 3 days 8 hours | weight: 85`429 (100`000 to 10`000) 746500;1404660845;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-06/spanish-tech-company-admits-it-fraud-following-short-seller-report 746501;1404660846;assbot;Spanish Tech Company Admits It Is A Fraud Following Short-Seller Report | Zero Hedge 746502;1404660863;mircea_popescu;ha 746503;1404660905;mircea_popescu;fiat gets all the good frauds ;/ do you have any idea what sane people on the retardforum'd have given to have a bitcoin fraud fucking admit ? 746504;1404660934;chetty;bitcoin is young 746505;1404661060;mircea_popescu;wow those were quick logs. is today the shortest day in history or something ? 746506;1404661084;mircea_popescu;!up tjader 746507;1404661096;BigBitz;you read the logs every day, mircea_popescu? 746508;1404661103;mircea_popescu;yup. since they exist. 746509;1404661107;mircea_popescu;!up rodgort 746510;1404661110;BigBitz;dedicated. :) 746511;1404661133;mircea_popescu;i just kinda did it originally, and much to my surprise im still doing it 746512;1404661134;asciilifeform;BigBitz: afaik most of the regular here read the logs. 746513;1404661145;BigBitz;I guess I am just lazy :( 746514;1404661148;mircea_popescu;wasn't like a goal or anything 746515;1404661156;mircea_popescu;but the rate of gems... 746516;1404661160;mircea_popescu;!up RedStallion 746517;1404661165;BigBitz;asciilifeform I banned that ninjashogun guy. 746518;1404661175;mircea_popescu;what, from otc ? 746519;1404661179;BigBitz;Yes. 746520;1404661183;BigBitz;He's an odd chap. 746521;1404661185;BigBitz;I don't like his MO. 746522;1404661193;BigBitz;nor do I like his "Stealth" nonsense. 746523;1404661197;mircea_popescu;he drank distilled shifty or something. 746524;1404661215;mircea_popescu;!up NormDePloome 746525;1404661219;asciilifeform;BigBitz: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt - if not already seen 746526;1404661229;BigBitz;Yeah I seen... he is weird. 746527;1404661233;BigBitz;jilted inidividual. 746528;1404661236;BigBitz;individual* 746529;1404661236;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform someone linked in here a discussion from otc re that. 746530;1404661242;mircea_popescu;i was thinking look at that, stan is now famous 746531;1404661245;asciilifeform;lol 746532;1404661255;mircea_popescu;!up nkuttler 746533;1404661259;mircea_popescu;!up nezZario 746534;1404661262;asciilifeform;just thought that folks ought to be given a handy 'crucifix' against mr spam 746535;1404661292;mircea_popescu;!up dxrt 746536;1404661312;mircea_popescu;!up defaboy_ 746537;1404661351;mircea_popescu;!up CoalPowerGorilla 746538;1404661369;mircea_popescu;!up agamemnon23 746539;1404661387;Mats_cd03;hue hue hue 746540;1404661426;mircea_popescu;BigBitz i still can't imagine what the hell he could be after. much too ineffectual to be an actual scammer. 746541;1404661442;mircea_popescu;i mean generally scammers, like camwhores, got bills to pay. 746542;1404661447;BigBitz;mircea_popescu asking people for $30K might be a bad thing :P 746543;1404661465;mircea_popescu;he's not asking like he's actually trying to get it. 746544;1404661510;mircea_popescu;but who knows, there's such a thing as a big black guy with a small penis, maybe he's the world's 153th worst scammer. 746545;1404661550;Mats_cd03;hasn't this been discussed before? boys going online to hone their con, being ineffectual, and so on... 746546;1404661579;mircea_popescu;speaking of which i suspect that's the reason so many christian fundamentalists oppose big brother so much : the deep seated fear that one day obama's gonna come out and say, "You, Schmucky McSchmuckee, are the 35th worst driver in the whole country. Here's the data." 746547;1404661589;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 except he's 30+ 746548;1404661641;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: rather than an uncommonly poor spammer, mr spam is quite likely an uncommonly poor something-else - with a very thin spam cover. 746549;1404661658;mircea_popescu;so what, this is the best of hungary's secret service ? 746550;1404661689;asciilifeform;hungarian proxy, costs what, a penny 746551;1404661709;mircea_popescu;you're thinking hungarian womenz. 746552;1404661711;mircea_popescu;proxies are rare. 746553;1404661712;asciilifeform;lol 746554;1404661716;mircea_popescu;hehe 746555;1404661847;*;asciilifeform wants to move to mircea_popescu's planet, where proxies are rare and womenz are common 746556;1404661863;mircea_popescu;;;google youtube money for nothing and chicks for freew 746557;1404661864;gribble;Dire Straits - Money For Nothing (Live At Knebworth) - YouTube: ; Dire Straits - Money For Nothing music video (Good ... - YouTube: ; Dire Straits - Money For Nothing + lyrics - YouTube: 746558;1404662431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.74358562 BTC to 11`662 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 746559;1404663223;mircea_popescu;well that was a failed xperiment. 746560;1404663346;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6787 @ 0.00081069 = 5.5022 BTC [+] 746561;1404664389;mircea_popescu;soo, a trade engine hard drive went. everything should be ok, it's getting hotswapped in a few minutes. 746562;1404664672;benkay;;;later tell peterl divs on the right: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE 746563;1404664673;assbot;S.MPOE last 6787@0.00081069 746564;1404664673;gribble;The operation succeeded. 746565;1404664781;FabianB;$mpexlag 746566;1404665030;benkay;i am now the third person to comment on the inadequate log length. 746567;1404665064;mircea_popescu;benkay welcome to the club 746568;1404665080;benkay;where's my cigar and port? 746569;1404665172;benkay;the coffee pot's handle in this cabin is misaligned by 5 degrees. it has been so since i was 15. i think i may fix it today, if i can find a screwdriver. 746570;1404665195;mircea_popescu;what do you care 746571;1404665847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03905493 = 0.9764 BTC [+] {2} 746572;1404666313;benkay;ever met one of those people who really really really like parallel lines and angles of specific value? 746573;1404666340;asciilifeform;benkay: me (as a boy. then cured spontaneously. how? no idea.) 746574;1404666394;benkay;more important things over which to obsess... 746575;1404666419;benkay;plus it'll leave the mountain home in just ever so slightly nicer a condiiton than it was when i got here this weekend. 746576;1404666439;asciilifeform;benkay: unless you strip the screw... 746577;1404666517;benkay;hahahahaha 746578;1404666517;benkay;oh 746579;1404666518;benkay;ha 746580;1404666526;benkay;funny, asciilifeform. 746581;1404666892;benkay;oh no well now it's not misaligned by 5 deg. but 0.5 deg and the good ol' static/dynamic friction behavior is making it damned impossible to correct that last +/- .5. 746582;1404666896;benkay;my kingdom for a fixture 746583;1404666937;asciilifeform;benkay: use some object as a plumber's bob 746584;1404667049;benkay;not a bad idea, but i think we're well into 'only an engineer would ever notice' area 746585;1404667200;kakobrekla;sucks to be one. 746586;1404667215;fluffypony;mircea_popescu:i wonder whatever happened to fluffypony's summary initiative. <- it's started, I'm setting up the framework for darlidada to plug stuff in tomorrow 746587;1404667249;fluffypony;he was busy until late last week, so he couldn't start earlier 746588;1404667319;mircea_popescu;o hey cool. 746589;1404667350;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679557.0 746590;1404667350;assbot;HIRING IPO WRITER !!! 746591;1404667408;kakobrekla;sounds like a job for usagi 746592;1404667433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20480 @ 0.00080546 = 16.4958 BTC [-] 746593;1404667464;fluffypony;LOL! 746594;1404668775;Dekker3D;Damn authentication is a hassle :P 746595;1404668815;Dekker3D;!up indiancandy1 746596;1404668892;Dekker3D;Is there any way to automate authentication in Hexchat, or just have it automatically trust my nickname to be me? 746597;1404669105;kakobrekla;you dont trust yourself to be you? 746598;1404669109;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBvwhnmUxDA#t=1m36s 746599;1404669109;assbot;Kenji Kawai Concert - Reincarnation (from Ghost in the Shell) - YouTube 746600;1404669166;Dekker3D;No, I mean.. just now I first had to /query gribble and do the one time password authentication, and then I had to /query assbot and send !up. It's a bit of a hassle, for each time I want to login. So I'm looking for some automation. But I think I found something 746601;1404669176;fluffypony;Dekker3D: ZNC 746602;1404669181;fluffypony;problem solved 746603;1404669188;Dekker3D;;;google ZNC 746604;1404669188;gribble;ZNC: ; Installation - ZNC: ; ZNC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 746605;1404669211;Dekker3D;I remember someone who used this. 746606;1404669221;kakobrekla;i know there are scripts out there for some irc clients to do this auth on join 746607;1404669250;chetty;I would be afraid of scripts with my gpg keys 746608;1404669264;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1SV44Q7.txt ) 746609;1404669264;thestringpuller;!b 1 746610;1404669307;kakobrekla;you are fine if you belive in destiny. 746611;1404669349;fluffypony;kakobrekla: what's your star sign? 746612;1404669350;fluffypony;:-P 746613;1404669369;chetty;in god we trust, but we monitor his frequency anyway 746614;1404669379;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/f-derp-short-risky-bitcoin-startups/2014/06/25 746615;1404669389;FabianB;hehe: http://csa-eur.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Mandarin-Map.png 746616;1404669435;kakobrekla;hm, does that map say french cant learn foreign languages? 746617;1404669473;kakobrekla;ah theres notes. 746618;1404669500;FabianB;:) 746619;1404669516;indiancandy1;:) 746620;1404669629;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00080338 = 10.3636 BTC [-] 746621;1404669694;mircea_popescu;ahaha ipo writer 746622;1404669696;mircea_popescu;good god. 746623;1404669840;chetty;ipo writer? where do I apply, I only want 50% :P 746624;1404669903;mircea_popescu;lol 746625;1404669904;decimation;re: opposing big brother << somehow the "security state" is a better solution than closing the borders from hostile states 746626;1404669930;mircea_popescu;decimation how do you propose to close a border ? 746627;1404669947;decimation;it's quite simple 746628;1404669964;chetty;moats with crocodiles? 746629;1404669973;mircea_popescu;a border is an abstraction you realise. 746630;1404669974;decimation;there were a few famous leaks, but the soviets were capable of closing the border in Berlin 746631;1404669981;mircea_popescu;lol 746632;1404669984;mircea_popescu;tell chetty all about it. 746633;1404670005;mircea_popescu;she's collecting stories. research for a book or something. 746634;1404670117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6370 @ 0.00080352 = 5.1184 BTC [+] 746635;1404670278;asciilifeform;decimation, mircea_popescu: with modern flying/swimming/walking mines, actually sealing a border is probably more feasible than ever before. 746636;1404670297;mircea_popescu;you mean with smugglers having those machines ? 746637;1404670300;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14630 @ 0.00080487 = 11.7752 BTC [+] 746638;1404670317;asciilifeform;well, sealing for men, trucks 746639;1404670331;mircea_popescu;yeswell. 746640;1404670332;asciilifeform;a bit harder for flying machines, esp. small ones 746641;1404670340;mircea_popescu;anonimity : the rural vs urban dispute. 746642;1404670349;mircea_popescu;technology does not help. the problem is not there. 746643;1404670371;decimation;it's a bit precious for anyone to think they are anonymous these days 746644;1404670392;mircea_popescu;it's just as precious for any government to think they aren't. 746645;1404670494;Naphex;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks 746646;1404670494;assbot;Boggelz - YouTube 746647;1404670509;decimation;your argument being that any technology available to strongly identify the population would also be available to those who resist? 746648;1404670533;chetty;actually given the impossibility of anonimity prolly safest to be well known and recognizable 746649;1404670560;mircea_popescu;decimation precisely. here : http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ 746650;1404670562;assbot;Anonimity, or the urban versus rural dispute. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 746651;1404670562;mircea_popescu;it's a longer story. 746652;1404670651;mircea_popescu;in other news, raid rebuilt fine and everything seems ok. 746653;1404670657;mircea_popescu;ima end up with a disk collection. 746654;1404670714;chetty;are they boiling the old ones in tomato juice? 746655;1404670741;mircea_popescu;lol. they'd better be 746656;1404670814;thestringpuller;i thought that said "dick collection" 746657;1404671060;mircea_popescu;why the fuck is x.eur trading .12 746658;1404671127;mircea_popescu;is this some sort of davout CP issue i've not heard about ? 746659;1404671174;mircea_popescu;;;seen davout 746660;1404671175;gribble;davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 0 hours, 19 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: switching to my dutch passport nao 746661;1404671190;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust davout 746662;1404671191;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user davout: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 25 via 15 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=davout | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davout | Rated since: Thu Jan 27 16:22:24 2011 746663;1404671211;mircea_popescu;weird. 746664;1404671447;FabianB;mircea_popescu: seems davouts bot was offline for a few hours yesterday 746665;1404671469;FabianB;uh, again 746666;1404671493;kakobrekla;wrong side of tech wot. 746667;1404671498;FabianB;was really surprised a small amount of my low bids were hit yesterday 746668;1404671706;mircea_popescu;yeah 746669;1404671748;mircea_popescu;this is vaguely reminescent of the s.dice type panics years ago 746670;1404671827;FabianB;ya, davout on vacation or something? 746671;1404671889;FabianB;$trade 746672;1404671893;FabianB;$traded 746673;1404671893;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 746674;1404672314;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 137 @ 0.03976359 = 5.4476 BTC [+] {2} 746675;1404672475;thestringpuller;lol s.dice panics 746676;1404672481;thestringpuller;wow is that history already 746677;1404672488;thestringpuller;is this what it feels like to get old mircea_popescu ? 746678;1404672498;mircea_popescu;mebbe 746679;1404672554;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/u-tightens-security-electronics-overseas-airports-174713930--finance.html 746680;1404672556;assbot;U.S. tightens security on electronics at overseas airports - Yahoo News 746681;1404672557;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00080468 = 11.1851 BTC [-] {2} 746682;1404672680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.03976359 = 2.3063 BTC [+] 746683;1404673805;asciilifeform;'security agents may ask travelers to turn on their electronic devices at checkpoints and if they do not have power, the devices will not be allowed on planes' << this has been a thing for a while. never really made sense. as if it were necessary to replace the entire battery with, e.g. hexagen - instead of merely half of it - to demolish the plane. 746684;1404673868;asciilifeform;note that the famous israeli 'beheading phone' was functional. 746685;1404673898;asciilifeform;(has perhaps 50 grams of pyrotechnics) 746686;1404673915;mike_c;beheading phone isn't taking out a plane though, right? 746687;1404673946;asciilifeform;not other than through blowing a new porthole, taking out atmosphere 746688;1404673951;asciilifeform;but in the case of laptop - sure 746689;1404674002;asciilifeform;alternatively, poisonous gasses instead of explosion, etc 746690;1404674474;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i dunno dood, i was allowed on the plane with ~10kgs worth of batteries 746691;1404674488;mircea_popescu;nobody individually checked that they in fact do power the laptops 746692;1404674641;fluffypony;I brought my HyperJuice battery on the plane 746693;1404674645;fluffypony;plus laptop etc. 746694;1404674668;chetty;yeah I flew with a boatload of electronics and nuttin was looked at (course it wasn't US plane) 746695;1404674758;mircea_popescu;chetty apparently the biggest terrorist repellant is "it not being us plane" 746696;1404674778;mircea_popescu;fluffypony what's the specs on that hyperjuice thing ? 746697;1404674786;fluffypony;61 000 mAh, 222Wh, and it's big and heavy 746698;1404674797;mircea_popescu;how much does it cost ? 746699;1404674803;fluffypony;ask Moiety how big and heavy it is :-P 746700;1404674807;mircea_popescu;coupla hundred. 746701;1404674814;fluffypony;I think I paid like $700 or so including shipping? 746702;1404674836;mircea_popescu;ah ? 746703;1404674846;fluffypony;Subtotal549.95 746704;1404674847;fluffypony;Shipping Cost (2.FedEx Int Priority <3 Days)95.19 746705;1404674847;fluffypony;Total$645.14 746706;1404674903;mircea_popescu;well then my multibattery thing is better, i spent about $300 on one set of six batteries but they pass 100k mah together. 746707;1404674915;mircea_popescu;the other set was maybe a little more expensive but neways. 746708;1404674939;fluffypony;yeah - I had to get this because it's about the only external battery that comes with a modified Mac charger 746709;1404674951;mircea_popescu;you can't just get spare mac batteries ? 746710;1404674985;fluffypony;no, the unibody is a single piece, so everything is sealed unless you unscrew it 746711;1404674990;mircea_popescu;omfg. 746712;1404675008;mircea_popescu;o the humanity. but why! 746713;1404675018;mircea_popescu;so it fucking floats or something ? 746714;1404675026;fluffypony;solid-ness-ness 746715;1404675028;chetty;apple has this thing about sealing everything 746716;1404675046;mircea_popescu;chetty i wonder what the apple no-sex-at-work policy is like. 746717;1404675054;chetty;lmao 746718;1404675057;fluffypony;to be fair, I do get ~11 hours out of my MBA, so it's not like I need to swap batteries under most circumstances 746719;1404675058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00080115 = 7.0902 BTC [-] {2} 746720;1404675086;chetty;but like the silly iPhone, you cant pull the battery to diable it 746721;1404675118;mircea_popescu;oh 746722;1404675123;mircea_popescu;now we get to the real answe. 746723;1404675195;fluffypony;NSA! NSA! 746724;1404675196;fluffypony;:-P 746725;1404675337;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/BgMe50r.jpg 746726;1404675346;mircea_popescu;"bro... dyel?" 746727;1404675850;jurov;kcontrol 746728;1404676682;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: http://vimeo.com/78508363 746729;1404676682;assbot;1000fps 4K Slow Motion Nude Kiera "Pool Play" Test Shots on Vimeo 746730;1404676748;mircea_popescu;im not advanced enough for vimeo 746731;1404677106;mircea_popescu;;;ident mike_c 746732;1404677106;gribble;Nick 'mike_c', with hostmask 'mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598', is identified as user 'mike_c', with GPG key id 4FBC58464F910E21, key fingerprint 9086CA4627840552468FE3D44FBC58464F910E21, and bitcoin address None 746733;1404677787;Mats_cd03;excellent squatting form 746734;1404677789;Mats_cd03;10/10 746735;1404677971;Mats_cd03;would bang 746736;1404678169;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3263 @ 0.00079935 = 2.6083 BTC [-] {2} 746737;1404678231;mircea_popescu;yeah. 746738;1404678401;jurov;oh, s.mpoe paid? 746739;1404678429;jurov;it's like... every time i stop observing mpex for a day, something happens 746740;1404678508;mircea_popescu;jurov :) 746741;1404678672;jurov;and why assbot did not announce it? 746742;1404678848;mircea_popescu;now that's a good q. 746743;1404679366;artifexd;http://i.imgur.com/5uevYuv.jpg 746744;1404679434;kakobrekla;OMG FACES 746745;1404679476;mircea_popescu;dude how are those chicks showing their faces 746746;1404679506;kakobrekla;like they dont know better 746747;1404679553;artifexd;Reportedly, that picture is from a bitcoin conference in Russia. 746748;1404679633;mircea_popescu;i think the burkas may actually have a great future 746749;1404679664;mircea_popescu;come 2050, in the islamic republic of kansas nude women with a black cloth o ntheir face pick cotton off webcam bushes. 746750;1404679746;mircea_popescu;so they get together enough money to pay someone in london to build them a brand 746751;1404679761;mircea_popescu;then they'll go everywhere without a cloth on their face but NEVER NUDE OMG 746752;1404680179;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/i-suspect-there-is-more-to-this-world-or-a-story-of-the-unindustrious/ 746753;1404680207;mircea_popescu;cazalla moiety and i guess asciilifeform directly interested in the above article :D 746754;1404680247;asciilifeform;re: apple batteries: they come out. you just need a hot air blower. 746755;1404681452;BingoBoingo;%t 746756;1404681456;BingoBoingo;%ob 746757;1404681458;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 275 Last Price: 226 24h-Vol: 28k High: 270 Low: 225 VWAP: 240 746758;1404681459;atcbot;10k@277 300@276 3k@275 | 2k@226 245k@225 50k@224 746759;1404681460;BingoBoingo;%d 746760;1404681463;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 485721.43 in 1698 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -38.14 746761;1404681613;BingoBoingo;%p 746762;1404681615;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 2857.58 GH/s 746763;1404683332;mircea_popescu;https://btc.waroflife.com/ << aand here we go. 746764;1404683332;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 746765;1404683390;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c the coins are backwards imo. you click on btc to go to atc ? make it atc no ? 746766;1404683390;gribble;The operation succeeded. 746767;1404683906;dub;;;tslb 746768;1404683927;gribble;Time since last block: 22 minutes and 7 seconds 746769;1404684269;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00080216 = 13.8774 BTC [+] 746770;1404685367;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00080482 = 20.5229 BTC [+] {3} 746771;1404686221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11733 @ 0.00080189 = 9.4086 BTC [-] {2} 746772;1404686831;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00079837 = 8.8619 BTC [-] 746773;1404687552;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/u4vFNPI.jpg 746774;1404687557;mircea_popescu;why's this guy look like such a derp 746775;1404687621;mircea_popescu;!up sexysaffron 746776;1404687632;sexysaffron;thank you! 746777;1404687637;sexysaffron;I have a video delivery! 746778;1404687654;mircea_popescu;let's see! 746779;1404687658;sexysaffron;https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqd51lvo64cof15/202.mp4 746780;1404687660;assbot;Dropbox - 202.mp4 746781;1404687680;sexysaffron;were you the one who ordered it? 746782;1404687697;sexysaffron;I can't remember who I was talking to last time, forgot to write it down :P 746783;1404687780;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron here's a trick : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744706 746784;1404687780;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 746785;1404687809;sexysaffron;ah cool, I was sure your name was familiar! 746786;1404687816;sexysaffron;I don't do a lot of IRC these days 746787;1404687821;mircea_popescu;these days ? 746788;1404687841;sexysaffron;ya I haven't done chatrooms in years! 746789;1404687846;mircea_popescu;anyway, don't leave just yet, i may have another one. 746790;1404687850;sexysaffron;ok! 746791;1404688966;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00079837 = 11.2969 BTC [-] 746792;1404689149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20186658 = 1.2112 BTC [+] {3} 746793;1404689341;cazalla;mircea_popescu cazalla may want to fuck you, actually. he’s bored. - not bored enough to put up with that 746794;1404689540;BingoBoingo;!up sexysaffron 746795;1404689570;BingoBoingo;lol cazalla The implications of there being 7 billion people in the world 746796;1404689771;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron ok that;s pretty cool. 746797;1404689779;mircea_popescu;so do you know who nassim taleb is ? 746798;1404689809;mircea_popescu;cazalla just tryin' to be neighbourhly :p 746799;1404689823;mircea_popescu;!up sexysaffron 746800;1404689831;sexysaffron;thanks! 746801;1404689832;sexysaffron;nope! 746802;1404689859;mircea_popescu;nassim taleb is one of the smartest brains of our generation. ever heard of "black swans" ? 746803;1404689883;sexysaffron;only in regards to hot mila on portman action 746804;1404689888;mircea_popescu;lol 746805;1404689903;mircea_popescu;do you have a twitter acct ? 746806;1404689910;sexysaffron;yep! 746807;1404689917;sexysaffron;@SexyMissSaffron 746808;1404689946;mircea_popescu;cool. so your next task is, beg nassim taleb to come here. tell him what a great scientific mind he is, too. 746809;1404689951;mircea_popescu;once done send him a twitter. 746810;1404689967;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/nntaleb 746811;1404689968;assbot;Nassim N. Taleb (nntaleb) auf Twitter 746812;1404689984;mircea_popescu;3 minutes tho, 5 is excessive. 746813;1404690001;sexysaffron;sounds good to me! 746814;1404690012;sexysaffron;so you want me to tweet him the link? 746815;1404690023;mircea_popescu;once you've made his film, yeah. 746816;1404690028;sexysaffron;cool! 746817;1404690036;mircea_popescu;"Here's me begging you Mr Taleb!" or something 746818;1404690057;sexysaffron;I can do that! Any other suggestions for content? 746819;1404690074;mircea_popescu;make it less sexuas, as in "we need you", more mercenary 746820;1404690079;mircea_popescu;as in "they've hired me to get you to" 746821;1404690123;sexysaffron;ok, and more casual outfit? 746822;1404690142;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 746823;1404690146;gribble;Time since last block: 0 seconds 746824;1404690147;mircea_popescu;i suppose all the boring old fiat regimes have Secret Service girls, we can have Sexy Services. same thing. 746825;1404690151;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron got a cat suit ? 746826;1404690161;mircea_popescu;or if not, a business suit ? 746827;1404690257;sexysaffron;here's business suit: http://imgur.com/a/TLJZR 746828;1404690258;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 746829;1404690277;sexysaffron;here's catsuit: http://imgur.com/a/GNiNB 746830;1404690277;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 746831;1404690334;mircea_popescu;business suit. 746832;1404690339;sexysaffron;ok! 746833;1404690369;mircea_popescu;did you have fun making it ? 746834;1404690374;sexysaffron;oh yes! 746835;1404690382;sexysaffron;I love making videos 746836;1404690386;sexysaffron;best job ever 746837;1404690416;mircea_popescu;hehe cool. ok, don't stress out, take a coupla days or w/e so you don';t end up frazzled. 746838;1404690440;mircea_popescu;!up teward 746839;1404690498;sexysaffron;I don't mind, if you send the .1 now it actually fits best into my schedule tomorrow 746840;1404690508;mircea_popescu;a, sure. addy ? 746841;1404690512;mircea_popescu;also, where do you live ? 746842;1404690517;sexysaffron;not shooting anything too heavy tomorrow but the rest of the week has big vids 746843;1404690528;teward;mircea_popescu, i quite like being stealthed thanks 746844;1404690530;teward;my ZNC's been... flappy lately 746845;1404690531;teward;:) 746846;1404690536;mircea_popescu;teward :p 746847;1404690545;mircea_popescu;will fix itself in half hour. 746848;1404690561;sexysaffron;ottawa, here's an address! 1PDFULmDdv7jJYkiZ8jkExfxsUFts342Vb 746849;1404690579;mircea_popescu;do you do conferences and stuff ? or online only ? 746850;1404690583;teward;mircea_popescu, true, it will. I could just /cycle though, force part and rejoin, and I can !up myself if i decide to talk actively :) 746851;1404690600;sexysaffron;not yet, someday soon though! 746852;1404690606;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot teward 746853;1404690606;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=teward | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=teward | Rated since: Thu Jan 16 14:58:46 2014 746854;1404690614;mircea_popescu;o my bad, i forgot. 746855;1404690617;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron aite. 746856;1404690618;teward;you're good :) 746857;1404690651;sexysaffron;received! thank you! :) 746858;1404690655;mircea_popescu;;) 746859;1404690709;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron are you actually a bit of a nerd or just happen to look the part ? 746860;1404690743;sexysaffron;super nerd! 746861;1404690747;mircea_popescu;really ? do you code ? 746862;1404690760;sexysaffron;literally watching tng right now 746863;1404690764;sexysaffron;a little! 746864;1404690775;mircea_popescu;what's your strongest language ? 746865;1404690790;mthreat;klingon, of course 746866;1404690800;mircea_popescu;mthreat ahaha good one. 746867;1404690844;sexysaffron;c#, but I can handle some HTML/CSS :P 746868;1404690851;sexysaffron;oh! 746869;1404690864;sexysaffron;kaplah! 746870;1404690867;mircea_popescu;cool beans. 746871;1404690889;mircea_popescu;!up DLabs 746872;1404690893;mthreat;;;ud kaplah 746873;1404690893;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kaplah | kaplah. Klingon for: Success Also Used to express 'Eureka' or the 'Absence of Failure' Slang: Can be used to mean 'Abracadabra' or 'Kazaam' when performing  ... 746874;1404690949;mircea_popescu;KLI_pIqaD ?! srsly ?! 746875;1404690950;sexysaffron;nice 746876;1404690994;teward;WRONG. 746877;1404690997;teward;Qapla' is the correct spelling 746878;1404691000;teward;whoopsies capslock 746879;1404691018;teward;at least, english-written, that's the spelling 746880;1404691046;mthreat;ted heh made me think of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdVx5gQz6w 746881;1404691047;assbot;Dana Carvey goes nuts! - YouTube 746882;1404691049;teward;sorry, i'm a bit of a trekkie myself... (watching DS9 right now, finished TNG for the 10th time yesterday) 746883;1404691085;mircea_popescu;which is the one with the big ass chick in it ? 746884;1404691091;mircea_popescu;greek woman. marina something 746885;1404691095;mthreat;tng 746886;1404691097;sexysaffron;sirtis! 746887;1404691102;sexysaffron;troi 746888;1404691111;teward;TNG, and the next-generation era movies 746889;1404691111;sexysaffron;she was also on stargate 746890;1404691125;mircea_popescu;a yes marina sirtis. 746891;1404691157;teward;she shows up a couple times in Voyager, too, whenever Reginald Barclay ends up doing something in relation to finding and trying to bring Voyager home 746892;1404691191;sexysaffron;yes! 746893;1404691236;sexysaffron;voyager is my favorite 746894;1404691287;*;mircea_popescu sneers at the monster-of-the-week flying-around-space-in-our-livingroom-watching-tv hey-look-it-s-a-model entertainment 746895;1404691287;teward;oh dear, netflix and my firewall are not cooperating... and I was just getting into the third season of DS9... >.> 746896;1404691293;*;teward disappears to fix the firewall rules 746897;1404691336;teward;there we go... 746898;1404691337;sexysaffron;oh star trek is all about interpersonal relationships and moral dilemas! 746899;1404691358;teward;except the last couple seasons of DS9, that's all about war and combat and defeating the dominion invaders 746900;1404691371;teward;and... interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas. 746901;1404691376;sexysaffron;lol 746902;1404691392;sexysaffron;haven't finished ds9 yet, haven't had the strength to sit through it 746903;1404691398;*;mircea_popescu sneers at interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas!!1 746904;1404691398;sexysaffron;just like atlantis :( 746905;1404691424;teward;also, good advice to everyone: don't ever set your computer that watches netflix to a bandwidth-restricted, rate-limit-triggering firewall subnet... 746906;1404691426;mthreat;data (the android) banged tasha yar. there's your interpersonal relationship 746907;1404691430;teward;it causes netflix to stop working after a while 746908;1404691453;mircea_popescu;teward who rate limits their own boxen ffs. 746909;1404691460;mircea_popescu;that's for lording your admin over othr people 746910;1404691465;teward;mircea_popescu, um... me? 746911;1404691477;*;teward has a virtual cluster on his own network, plus three other VLANs 746912;1404691486;teward;well, subnets actually, not VLANs 746913;1404691489;mircea_popescu;mthreat did he actually have the gear or did they have to upgrade him ? 746914;1404691509;mthreat;he said he was fully functional. standby for youtube clip 746915;1404691513;teward;mircea_popescu, i'm also kinda paranoid, i rate-limit the non-priority subnets so I don't overuse all my pipe 746916;1404691515;mircea_popescu;o.o 746917;1404691542;mircea_popescu;teward the internet is like a truck you know, you can just put more on it. 746918;1404691543;teward;and those other nets, except the priority and wifi subnets, are super locked down. (those two are not locked down as much but are locked down) 746919;1404691568;mthreat;here's the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ev1ec0Z0GI 746920;1404691568;assbot;Data is fully functional - YouTube 746921;1404691575;dub;liek a supernode? 746922;1404691594;teward;mircea_popescu, sure... if you want to pay thousands a month for a 1gig symmetric pipe, or $850 a month for a 100meg symmetric pipe 746923;1404691596;*;teward has a 10meg pipe 746924;1404691606;teward;still costly, but not out of my budget 746925;1404691624;mircea_popescu;dub exactly liek a supernode. 746926;1404691666;mircea_popescu;!up sexysaffron 746927;1404691684;mircea_popescu;this yar chick has some very strange bed chat. being five ?! surviving ?! 746928;1404691692;sexysaffron;I thought I was supposed to be able to voice myself somehow? 746929;1404691707;mthreat;mircea_popescu: in that episode they were all drunk because of something, i forget what 746930;1404691712;sexysaffron;yar was a shitty character 746931;1404691726;assbot;nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 746932;1404691731;mircea_popescu;;;ident sexysaffron 746933;1404691731;gribble;Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified. 746934;1404691733;mircea_popescu;!up nam-shub 746935;1404691745;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron if you identify with gribble you can then pm assbot !up 746936;1404691747;mircea_popescu;wanna try it ? 746937;1404691753;sexysaffron;sure! 746938;1404691756;nam-shub;thanks for the !up 746939;1404691760;mircea_popescu;so first id with gribble 746940;1404691772;sexysaffron;;;ident 746941;1404691773;gribble;Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified. 746942;1404691791;mircea_popescu;wait, picard also did yar ? 746943;1404691801;sexysaffron;I think maybe 746944;1404691802;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron ;;bcauth i think 746945;1404691806;mircea_popescu;;;bcauth 746946;1404691806;gribble;(bcauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes. 746947;1404691817;mthreat;ask teward, he's seen it 10 times :) 746948;1404691825;sexysaffron;;;bcauth 746949;1404691826;gribble;(bcauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes. 746950;1404691830;mircea_popescu;mthreat moreover, he ADMITS :p 746951;1404691834;mircea_popescu;;;bcauth sexysaffron 746952;1404691834;gribble;Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. 746953;1404691841;mircea_popescu;o.O 746954;1404691842;teward;;;gpg info sexysaffron 746955;1404691842;sexysaffron;;;bcauth sexy_saffron 746956;1404691842;gribble;No such user registered. 746957;1404691843;gribble;Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:187b08cf3e5bf4be1abc4ebcc21994f31d90b25e90c56b60bbafa3d9 746958;1404691843;nam-shub;Doesn't anyone here want to voice up to say how sexist this whole conversation has been? Who is here to speak for the Merckle and Yellen? Don't they deserve a video too? 746959;1404691868;mircea_popescu;nam-shub who are those ?! 746960;1404691916;sexysaffron;;;bcverify HIQzBEFMPITBKHa/iQn7cl8p1yHxY7V5s/pdYo3FJENAH8m6hxkfFrDS/zXcr0TI3US30j/daFtcGBmjLBmMVvc= 746961;1404691916;gribble;Error: Signature verification failed. 746962;1404691928;mircea_popescu;win. 746963;1404691932;sexysaffron;hmmmm 746964;1404691933;mike_c;yellen prints the funny money 746965;1404691933;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron did you leave some bits out ? 746966;1404691947;teward;;;bcauth TheLordOfTime 746967;1404691947;gribble;Request successful for user TheLordOfTime, hostmask teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7369448cd56d66dd532ee02c584942a080e7aa036426128e9edb4e76 746968;1404691954;mircea_popescu;nam-shub do you mean the german pm, angela merkel ? 746969;1404691955;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00079749 = 25.3203 BTC [-] {2} 746970;1404691958;sexysaffron;I'm pretty sure I used the right address, I'll try again 746971;1404691960;teward;don'g forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :) 746972;1404691962;teward;don't forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :) 746973;1404691965;teward;;;gpg info sexy_saffron 746974;1404691965;gribble;User 'sexy_saffron', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT, registered on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014, last authed on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=sexy_saffron . Currently not authenticated. 746975;1404691967;teward;sexysaffron, ^ 746976;1404691969;teward;that address 746977;1404691980;nam-shub;yes, sorry for the spelling I don't speak Japanese. 746978;1404691983;mircea_popescu;!up GunPlay 746979;1404692006;mircea_popescu;nam-shub well how the hell do they deserve videos too, they don't write blogs i read. 746980;1404692013;sexysaffron;;;bcverify HP3SL7vFHrSKOlCsyca3HRNn6NL5kgrpq5HGq0eUZwQ+UpQPOqCWj6TUwXTW14twT9CKSof+Bi7CXBrAABUvAtk= 746981;1404692014;gribble;You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT 746982;1404692016;sexysaffron;woot! 746983;1404692018;mircea_popescu;yay 746984;1404692021;mircea_popescu;!down sexysaffron 746985;1404692021;sexysaffron;used the wrong address 746986;1404692029;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron now do /query assbot 746987;1404692034;mircea_popescu;and then in that window !up 746988;1404692051;mircea_popescu;yay. wd. 746989;1404692057;sexysaffron;awesome! 746990;1404692058;mircea_popescu;you've managed a feat few women do. 746991;1404692069;sexysaffron;I feel special! 746992;1404692078;mircea_popescu;actually... afaik there's more women presidents of countries 746993;1404692148;sexysaffron;one of a kind saffron! 746994;1404692150;sexysaffron;:P 746995;1404692192;mircea_popescu;;;8ball 746996;1404692193;gribble;You know the answer better than I. 746997;1404692206;mircea_popescu;well of course i do, being the mp and all. nevertheless! 746998;1404692331;mircea_popescu;anyway, which other great people did we want invited here ? 746999;1404692344;mircea_popescu;and who first mentioned tlp anyway ? 747000;1404692350;mircea_popescu;!s thelastpsychiatrist 747001;1404692351;assbot;1 results for 'thelastpsychiatrist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=thelastpsychiatrist 747002;1404692359;mircea_popescu;noway 747003;1404692405;mircea_popescu;!s "thelastpsychiatrist.com" 747004;1404692405;assbot;22 results for '"thelastpsychiatrist.com"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22thelastpsychiatrist.com%22 747005;1404692409;mthreat;!s thelastpsy* 747006;1404692410;assbot;23 results for 'thelastpsy*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=thelastpsy%2A 747007;1404692446;mircea_popescu;what, me ?! srsly ? 747008;1404692450;mircea_popescu;i thought it was BingoBoingo 747009;1404692473;BingoBoingo;I might have mentioned it first 747010;1404692483;mircea_popescu;do you ever comment on his site ? 747011;1404692629;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe a couple times quite a while back. 747012;1404692668;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/07/google-bans-porn-in-ads/ 747013;1404692669;assbot;Google bans porn in ads | Ars Technica 747014;1404693102;asciilifeform;damn, missed the 'isp suction olymnics' again. 747015;1404693107;asciilifeform;*olympics 747016;1404693131;asciilifeform;(100 usd buys ~100MB for 1mo. here in mordor.) 747017;1404693137;asciilifeform;(Mb/sec) 747018;1404693176;asciilifeform;('human' grade, no 'qos' etc.) 747019;1404693236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1993135 = 0.5979 BTC [-] {3} 747020;1404693280;mircea_popescu;lol 747021;1404693291;mircea_popescu;* teward has quit (Quit: ERROR: Segmentation Fault in ZNC: admin.so: 56) 747022;1404693612;BingoBoingo;!up nam-shub 747023;1404693621;BingoBoingo;!up teward 747024;1404693907;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00079728 = 7.8133 BTC [-] {2} 747025;1404693974;BingoBoingo;!up GunPlay 747026;1404694090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.00079715 = 38.4625 BTC [-] {2} 747027;1404694090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 11 @ 0.13886362 = 1.5275 BTC [+] {5} 747028;1404694346;TheNewDeal;;;later tell bitcoinpete hey would you want to give me a rating for that bitbet deal 747029;1404694346;gribble;The operation succeeded. 747030;1404694515;asciilifeform;http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/dos-boot-ars-spends-a-day-working-in-freedos 747031;1404694516;assbot;Old school: I work in DOS for an entire day | Ars Technica 747032;1404694639;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19720 @ 0.00079709 = 15.7186 BTC [-] 747033;1404694693;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 747034;1404694696;gribble;Current Blocks: 309546 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 917 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 54 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16693953285.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.74031 747035;1404694738;TheNewDeal;wow 747036;1404695127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00079505 = 44.7613 BTC [-] {4} 747037;1404695253;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 13,597. 747038;1404695329;TheNewDeal;is that bet for a player or a team? 747039;1404695343;TheNewDeal;has to be a player 747040;1404695364;mike_c;new titles btw: 747041;1404695366;mike_c;https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/ 747042;1404695367;assbot;Game 16 - Death 5244 Life 4756 - War of Life 747043;1404695384;TheNewDeal;does anyone know how this bet got accepted, given the new rules ? http://bitbet.us/bet/992/brazil-beats-germany/ 747044;1404695384;assbot;BitBet - Brazil beats Germany :: 0.28 B (58%) on Yes, 0.2 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 day 22 hours | weight: 70`291 (100`000 to 10`000) 747045;1404695425;mike_c;TheNewDeal: probably cuz the last germany bet pulled in 13 BTC in like an hour. 747046;1404695478;artifexd;The current high scorer is James Rodriguez with 6 goals. He played for Colombia who is now out. The next is Muller from Germany with 4. They're playing Brazil next. 747047;1404695494;artifexd;In other words, betting no on 905 is pretty safe now. 747048;1404695584;TheNewDeal;Not seeing the 13btc/hr bet you spoke of mike_c . Did find these, which all had <10 BTC sum http://bitbet.us/bet/649/germany-to-enter-final-in-world-cup-2014/ http://bitbet.us/bet/938/world-cup-2014-germany-to-net-more-than/ http://bitbet.us/bet/931/germany-will-advance-from-the-2014-world-cup/ 747049;1404695584;assbot;BitBet - Germany to enter final in World Cup 2014 :: 0.1 B (31%) on Yes, 0.22 B (69%) on No | closed 1 day 1 hour ago 747050;1404695584;assbot;BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closed 5 days 22 hours ago 747051;1404695584;assbot;BitBet - Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 2.7 B (95%) on Yes, 0.13 B (5%) on No | closed 1 week 4 days ago 747052;1404695609;mike_c;TheNewDeal: http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ 747053;1404695609;assbot;BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.71 B (57%) on Yes, 5.75 B (43%) on No | closed 2 days 6 hours ago 747054;1404695623;TheNewDeal;ahhh 747055;1404695895;cazalla;artifexd: plus Neymar is out, he had 4 747056;1404695899;BingoBoingo;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/outrage-bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-expenses-creditors-prepare-fly-japan/2014/07/06?mref=100 747057;1404695902;assbot;Outrage at Bitcoin Exchange Mt. Gox Expenses as Creditors Prepare to Fly to Japan 747058;1404695974;artifexd;Messi (Argentina) is still playing and has 4 as well. But in order for 905 to resolve as yes, one of them will have to score another 4 goals. Unlikely, in my opinion. 747059;1404696078;cazalla;i bet no a few times but it's still a chance if it's a Germany v Argentina final, which is my guess 747060;1404696135;artifexd;I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it. 747061;1404696149;asciilifeform;unrelated - nick szabo is back? 747062;1404696159;artifexd;It isn't that I think Brazil is a better team. They're not. I think the refs are paid off. 747063;1404696591;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13451 @ 0.00079436 = 10.6849 BTC [-] 747064;1404697035;dub;BingoBoingo: I like how the journalist is a butthurt creditor too 747065;1404697085;BingoBoingo;dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors. 747066;1404698281;decimation;asciilifeform : based on your hostname I assume you have a comcast "business" account to get 100 meg 747067;1404698311;asciilifeform;decimation: verizon 747068;1404698324;decimation;is it symmetric? 747069;1404698344;asciilifeform;decimation: nope. ~35 out. 747070;1404698360;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00079298 = 3.9649 BTC [-] 747071;1404698378;asciilifeform;decimation: you can buy pretty much arbitrary bandwidth from them, the physical connection (fiber) is all the same. 747072;1404698398;decimation;I think the fios is actually time-multiplexed at the box in the ground near your house somewhere 747073;1404698429;asciilifeform;decimation: in these parts, the multiplexers are nailed to poles. 747074;1404698446;asciilifeform;decimation: pay more, get fatter slice. 747075;1404698464;asciilifeform;my own needs are very modest. 747076;1404698498;decimation;it's nice to have the peak capacity when you want it though 747077;1404698521;asciilifeform;yes, it is. 747078;1404698551;decimation;I actually am on asymmetric DSL 747079;1404698584;decimation;mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it 747080;1404698590;asciilifeform;funny part is, the net pipe is really the only thing around here that actually works as advertised. the mains, water, sewer - i had detectable problems with. the fiber - never. 747081;1404698634;decimation;I had a discussion with a guy who was high up in PEPCO once about the "mass panic" after the power outages after the "derecho" storm 747082;1404698658;decimation;I asked if their plan was to simply wait until everyone forgets about the situation and do nothing, and he confirmed that was the case 747083;1404698759;asciilifeform;an outage that lasts a week or so is not 'zombie apocalypse' - however, any longer and you learn things like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#735017 747084;1404698760;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 747085;1404698841;decimation;there was a TV show where they sampled the Potomac water going into the washington water system intake, and then sampled it going out 747086;1404698864;decimation;there were many strange organics that were hardly attenuated by the "purification" process 747087;1404698882;asciilifeform;decimation: pharma crud. 747088;1404698918;decimation;yeah, mostly that plus some industrial stuff 747089;1404698921;asciilifeform;some of these are very stable (if it survives your metabolic paths, it will probably survive the treatment plant) 747090;1404699012;decimation;wrt to the HMMWV: you were able to buy the whole truck for $700? Or just the radio? 747091;1404699032;asciilifeform;truck. but i didn't buy it 747092;1404699048;decimation;you would probably have to pay golden toliet prices for the parts 747093;1404699049;asciilifeform;(realized that it would be ruinously expensive to fuel.) 747094;1404699056;decimation;heh that too 747095;1404699070;asciilifeform;plus i have no real use for such a thing 747096;1404699073;asciilifeform;but there it was. 747097;1404699102;decimation;it was probably some junk in the DC armory that they parked somewhere "for security" or whatever 747098;1404699114;asciilifeform;it stood in a university surplus lot 747099;1404699120;asciilifeform;next to garbage trucks, buses, tractors, etc. 747100;1404699148;decimation;but it does reveal many truths about the way USG actually works, rather than the way everyone pretend it works 747101;1404699177;asciilifeform;decimation: it was the same kind - but not the particular truck pictured in the linked photo 747102;1404699184;asciilifeform;that one, if it wasn't clear, was spotted in the wild. 747103;1404699211;asciilifeform;and was not, afaik, advertised for sale. 747104;1404699214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00079298 = 18.5954 BTC [-] 747105;1404699231;decimation;oh I meant the truck in the picture, not the one you were offered 747106;1404699272;decimation;walking around DC during a "crisis" always turns up interesting bits of security hardware 747107;1404699299;asciilifeform;funny thing is, they trot out these ancient trucks every year 747108;1404699306;asciilifeform;on july 4 festival 747109;1404699325;asciilifeform;not on any semblance of parade, but just for 'security theatre' 747110;1404699333;asciilifeform;they contain (unarmed) grunts 747111;1404699394;decimation;I recall (in the 90's!) when you could walk into the capitol any time you wished with a metal detector screen 747112;1404699411;decimation;Back then you could also freely come and go to the mall during the 4th 747113;1404699438;asciilifeform;you can still come and go to the mall on the 4th 747114;1404699453;asciilifeform;if you can stomach the 'sardine can' trains 747115;1404699463;decimation;or the "checkpoints" 747116;1404699490;asciilifeform;they used to actually search people at the checkpoints 747117;1404699508;asciilifeform;but this year, saw no such thing 747118;1404699517;decimation;my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual 747119;1404699536;asciilifeform;usually it turns into a war on nail clippers, pocket knives, etc 747120;1404699552;decimation;"why are you carrying a non-functional computer onto the airplane sir"? "because I want to use it for parts" 747121;1404699648;decimation;if you just want to watch planes land, or trains go by, or boats sail past, like people over the centuries have done, you are suspicious 747122;1404699763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00079436 = 15.8078 BTC [+] 747123;1404699852;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Chinese-woman-charged-in-trade-secrets-theft-case-5595772.php 747124;1404699852;assbot;Chinese woman charged in trade secrets theft case - SFGate 747125;1404699852;gribble;The operation succeeded. 747126;1404700101;decimation;hey that's wall street's game (chinese woman spies) http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Bay-Area-inside-trader-Winifred-Jiau-convicted-2367259.php 747127;1404700102;assbot;Bay Area inside trader, Winifred Jiau, convicted - SFGate 747128;1404701034;mthreat;!up msnaughtykitty 747129;1404701123;mthreat;!up msnaughtykitty 747130;1404701157;mthreat;!up JonathanVaage 747131;1404701406;msnaughtykitty;Are they still doing the bitcoin for tits? 747132;1404701493;BingoBoingo;msnaughtykitty: Yeah, but mircea_popescu is offline atm it seems 747133;1404701515;msnaughtykitty;ok so that is who I need to look for I'm assuming? 747134;1404701541;BingoBoingo;Yeah 747135;1404701554;msnaughtykitty;Ok thank you so much I'll check back again :) 747136;1404701583;BingoBoingo;msnaughtykitty: Well he's on most of the time. If you linger long enough he'll stop by 747137;1404701598;msnaughtykitty;Ok I will try that :) 747138;1404702022;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-iii-pool-luck-network-luck-factors-involved/ 747139;1404702569;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00079299 = 10.864 BTC [-] 747140;1404703057;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 923 @ 0.00171257 = 1.5807 BTC [-] {2} 747141;1404704857;BingoBoingo;!up AndrewJackson 747142;1404704860;BingoBoingo;!up msnaughtykitty 747143;1404704874;BingoBoingo;!up drawingthesun 747144;1404706168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00079342 = 8.926 BTC [+] {2} 747145;1404706839;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00079298 = 19.0315 BTC [-] 747146;1404707266;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21918 @ 0.00079683 = 17.4649 BTC [+] {2} 747147;1404707985;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Facebook Myspace'd" http://bitbet.us/bet/771/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.64011533 BTC. Current weight: 61,005. 747148;1404708120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 125 @ 0.03587814 = 4.4848 BTC [-] {5} 747149;1404708303;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00079864 = 7.3475 BTC [+] 747150;1404708913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24982 @ 0.00079864 = 19.9516 BTC [+] 747151;1404709523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34058 @ 0.00079296 = 27.0066 BTC [-] {2} 747152;1404714866;BingoBoingo;%d 747153;1404714868;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 458763.69 in 1678 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -41.57 747154;1404714875;BingoBoingo;!up phish 747155;1404714880;BingoBoingo;!up diatonic 747156;1404714891;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 457 @ 0.00171612 = 0.7843 BTC [+] 747157;1404714893;BingoBoingo;!up crypto_x_ 747158;1404716423;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/07/some-bitcoin-newsing-stuff/ 747159;1404716612;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2a1475/the_problem_of_bitcoin_journalism_as_practiced/ 747160;1404716613;assbot;The Problem of Bitcoin Journalism as practiced : Bitcoin 747161;1404716861;BingoBoingo;!up grahvity| 747162;1404716978;punkman;morning 747163;1404716983;BingoBoingo;!up Skirmant 747164;1404716986;BingoBoingo;Morning punkman 747165;1404717211;*;punkman just mailed all the fuckers that owe him money 747166;1404717249;punkman;time to work on something fun now 747167;1404717320;BingoBoingo;Cool 747168;1404717566;punkman;getting that css in the shell: http://i.imgur.com/PAE9ljr.png 747169;1404717723;BingoBoingo;Nice work 747170;1404717755;BingoBoingo;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/06/2121248/police-using-dogs-to-sniff-out-computer-memory 747171;1404717756;assbot;Police Using Dogs To Sniff Out Computer Memory - Slashdot 747172;1404717824;punkman;amazing dog, can sniff out child porn 747173;1404717824;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 747174;1404718100;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 747175;1404718102;gribble;Current Blocks: 309590 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16753237297.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.38781 747176;1404718936;BingoBoingo;!up wilimprex 747177;1404718941;BingoBoingo;!up haos 747178;1404719466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3391 @ 0.00079555 = 2.6977 BTC [+] 747179;1404720076;BingoBoingo;!up Hola0123 747180;1404721605;FabianB;;;ticker --currency eur --last 747181;1404721606;gribble;465.558317 747182;1404721692;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 747183;1404721698;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 632.0, vol: 2166.92497490 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 626.1, vol: 1786.47265 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 634.86, vol: 1996.82286398 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 631.913672, vol: 3514.76070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 638.973, vol: 2.78219549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 626.68367188, vol: 14.30294288 | Volume-weighted last average: 631.452720935 747184;1404721699;BingoBoingo;;;more 747185;1404721699;gribble;Peeing Into Your Own ...: 747186;1404721719;BingoBoingo;WTF gribble 747187;1404721798;punkman;lol 747188;1404721813;punkman;dafuq 747189;1404721967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00079603 = 10.5076 BTC [+] 747190;1404722455;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00079837 = 33.6912 BTC [+] {2} 747191;1404723117;punkman;http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html 747192;1404723117;assbot;The Pitchforks Are Coming For Us Plutocrats - Nick Hanauer - POLITICO Magazine 747193;1404723716;BingoBoingo;Welcome back to -assets mircea_popescu, you missed potential tits from they should be back sometime soon 747194;1404723725;mircea_popescu;cool 747195;1404723806;BingoBoingo;%t 747196;1404723807;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 225 Ask: 275 Last Price: 225 24h-Vol: 38k High: 226 Low: 225 VWAP: 225 747197;1404723878;punkman;"The folks like us at the top have always told those at the bottom that our respective positions are righteous and good for all. Historically, we called that divine right." 747198;1404723881;punkman;"What nonsense this is. Am I really such a superior person? Do I belong at the center of the moral as well as economic universe? Do you?" 747199;1404724102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27813 @ 0.00079603 = 22.14 BTC [-] 747200;1404724122;punkman;is that like pre-emptive cocksucking to appease the pitchfork wielders? 747201;1404724155;BingoBoingo;Kind of sounds that way 747202;1404724157;mircea_popescu;well what sort of q is that, without a sauce ? 747203;1404724177;punkman;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#747191 747204;1404724178;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 747205;1404724180;mircea_popescu;but i would guess it's just some schmuck that realises he doesn't belong up there, and wants to move into a subordinate position in teh new republic. which... of course. 747206;1404724192;punkman;4 pages of derp 747207;1404724193;mircea_popescu;o it's in the logs huh :D ok, getting to it. 747208;1404724211;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, "Return to merchant and try a different payment method. We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)." 747209;1404724224;mircea_popescu;do you suppose merchant had his pp acct locked since last month? 747210;1404724264;punkman;sounds like the problem is with your pp account 747211;1404724276;mircea_popescu;notrly. 747212;1404724464;mircea_popescu;it's a ~15 yo verified business acct. and it only failed one payment in a batch. 747213;1404724789;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety plz to add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQTrAMKhNM to /r/MensRights /r/AgainstFeminism /r/Conservajerk "Woman begging TheLastPsychiatrist to join some IRC channel" add NSFW tag. thanks! 747214;1404724789;assbot;Girl wants TLP on #bitcoin-assets - YouTube 747215;1404724789;gribble;The operation succeeded. 747216;1404724968;mircea_popescu;artifexd: I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it. << get out, germany has like the best team at wc. 747217;1404724986;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: unrelated - nick szabo is back? << he is ? then he;'s next! 747218;1404724996;artifexd;mircea_popescu: keep reading 747219;1404725003;mircea_popescu;lol kk 747220;1404725021;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors. << dude with the golden mouth. 747221;1404725032;jurov;https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10442564_552387954872056_3851848126136245319_n.jpg 747222;1404725033;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2PDB65J.txt ) 747223;1404725033;BingoBoingo;!b 1 747224;1404725037;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0P3XW0T.txt ) 747225;1404725037;BingoBoingo;!b 2 747226;1404725053;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/36B16YZ.txt ) 747227;1404725053;BingoBoingo;!b 4 747228;1404725099;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the gods of the bash will smite thee at this rate 747229;1404725110;BingoBoingo;Prolly 747230;1404725176;jurov;/smite BingoBoingo 747231;1404725198;BingoBoingo;OMG it happened 747232;1404725205;mircea_popescu;lol 747233;1404725246;mircea_popescu;decimation: mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it << so what, using diy internets ? 747234;1404725361;mircea_popescu;!up Hola0123 747235;1404725526;mircea_popescu;decimation: my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual << i think that's everyone's objection. 747236;1404725560;mircea_popescu;kinda why only doomed societies can significantly rely on security theater. it fundamentally relies on the productive parts of society having long left. 747237;1404725607;chetty;security theater is a giant sucking on time/resources 747238;1404725653;mircea_popescu;mother sleeping with its baby is also giant sucking on time/resources. 747239;1404725660;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, makes the baby feel safe. 747240;1404725697;mircea_popescu;!up Hola0123 747241;1404725706;mircea_popescu;Hola0123 and who might you be 747242;1404725756;mircea_popescu;ahahah at "conspiracy to steal trade secrets from U.S. seed corn companies." 747243;1404725771;mircea_popescu;so i'm supposed to believe corn companies have secrets worth stealing now ? 747244;1404725781;BingoBoingo;I imagine in the new republic Security Theater will be a place people go to in order to watch follies of the failed republic reenacted 747245;1404725834;mircea_popescu;maybe it could be a monster truck rally. 747246;1404725887;mircea_popescu;"The loss to a U.S. seed corn manufacturer of a patented seed line is a minimum of $30 million to $40 million and from five to eight years of research time, Klinefeldt said." 747247;1404725903;mircea_popescu;chick is married to a guy worth 1.5 bn, spends her time stealing crap not really worth 30mn. 747248;1404725925;mircea_popescu;this makes so much fucking sense... 747249;1404726225;jurov;these dudes dream of patenting whole food supply 747250;1404726231;jurov;lost cause 747251;1404726284;mircea_popescu;obviously. the bonus of a "stable" state is rent seeking. 747252;1404726501;mircea_popescu;that politico article is really badly written. 747253;1404726555;mircea_popescu;"But the problem isnt that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day." 747254;1404726570;mircea_popescu;fuck you lol. as long as most people can afford internet, and running water, inequality is way way way too low. 747255;1404726591;mircea_popescu;as a rule of thumb, 80% of the population must eat when it can, not when it wants. that's NORMAL levels of inequality. 747256;1404726606;chetty;a lot of Detroit had water shut off, must be getting there 747257;1404726617;mircea_popescu;aite then. 747258;1404726636;mircea_popescu;but i mean, this "inequality" bs is just about to pass "global warming" in idiocy. 747259;1404726662;mircea_popescu;what am i supposed to believe random rich guy with the copy skils of a politico staff writer is writing copy for politico ? 747260;1404726698;mircea_popescu;"And also like you, I have been rewarded obscenely for my success, with a life that the other 99.99 percent of Americans cant even imagine. Multiple homes, my own plane, etc., etc. You know what Im talking about." 747261;1404726718;mircea_popescu;yeah, i know what he WANTS to be talking about. the problem is that he has no idea what he's talking about. 747262;1404726725;mircea_popescu;multiple homes pssh. 747263;1404726766;mircea_popescu;every fucktard with a college loan "looking to start a family" owns "multiple homes". out of which he and the girl will move out, to save on the rent. 747264;1404726813;chetty;marketwatch had piece about what actual rich people do, one thing they noted is that most of them you would never know because they dont live that way 747265;1404726864;mircea_popescu;this is one direct result of the insufficient inequality in the us and especially europe. 747266;1404727021;chetty;(well not wasting money is how a lot of people get to be rich ..oh and companies do well) 747267;1404727071;mircea_popescu;for that matter, i would wish to point out that i have not been rewarded obscenely for my success. for one thing, i have not "been rewarded". i rewarded myself. for the other thing, the only obscene part in all of this is that some schmuck dares write idiotic copy for politico instead of begging to shine my shoes. 747268;1404727195;mircea_popescu;fucktarded kids think if they drooled on textbooks for four years the useless bulshit they learned is going to work, and ima let passive mood stick because what, rich people are stupid, social studies dorks are made to rule the world ? 747269;1404727271;chetty;well the point of that crap is really to try and be sure the mob won't come after you, because you care!!! 747270;1404727321;mircea_popescu;no. 747271;1404727343;chetty;Note:doing anything is crass, but you must sound like you care! 747272;1404727343;mircea_popescu;the point of that crap is to make the mob think that it still has power. 747273;1404727356;mircea_popescu;you realise that shit isn't being read by the people it purports to address. 747274;1404727378;mircea_popescu;the entire thing is an implementation of mother "beating" the chair her stupid kid boinked his head on. 747275;1404727393;mircea_popescu;i dunno if you've ever seen this. 747276;1404727402;Mats_cd03;those it purports to address can barely read. 747277;1404727406;chetty;nope, just by other people wishing they had written it 747278;1404727436;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 you figure ? 747279;1404727523;mircea_popescu;chetty they "got a voice" right ? 747280;1404727588;chetty;ha, too damn many voices = cacophony 747281;1404727633;mircea_popescu;the caco in the phony comes from the shit in their heads. 747282;1404727691;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1SRKWQ6.txt ) 747283;1404727691;chetty;!b 3 747284;1404727775;mircea_popescu;somehow everyone speaking at the same time results in cacophony but nevertheless "crowdsourcing". isn't this a bit dissonant ? 747285;1404727878;Mats_cd03;i am not impressed with his arguments 747286;1404727881;chetty;well crowdsourcing seems to be a pretty natural response to over regulation 747287;1404727909;Mats_cd03;.hk is a twister of inequality...one of the safest metros in the world 747288;1404727923;mircea_popescu;chetty yes, compared to organised stupidity, disorganised stupidity works better. 747289;1404727932;mircea_popescu;know what works even better than that ? inequality! 747290;1404727933;Mats_cd03;the peasants can be properly coerced into peace, history is that obvious 747291;1404727952;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 only if you're comitted to it. 747292;1404727970;mircea_popescu;vlad the impaler can keep the peace in the middle of a warzone. john the stupid can't keep peace on an island. 747293;1404728023;mircea_popescu;o look, they don't call it john the stupid in english ? wtf is this lackland bs. 747294;1404728120;dub;%book 747295;1404728121;atcbot;722@279 1k@278 3k@275 | 232k@225 1M@224 12k@221 747296;1404728265;asciilifeform;'80% of the population must eat when it can, not when it wants' >> 747297;1404728271;asciilifeform;!s the answer lies in the sewers 747298;1404728271;assbot;6 results for 'the answer lies in the sewers' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+answer+lies+in+the+sewers 747299;1404728311;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00079865 = 38.2553 BTC [+] 747300;1404728317;chetty;oh btc on waroflife :) 747301;1404728335;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform is there a non pdf version of that ? 747302;1404728362;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/Ni7t20wY 747303;1404728363;assbot;The answer lies in the sewers - Pastebin.com 747304;1404728506;davout;jurov: so apparently dotcoin has been sent to the rape cage 747305;1404728515;davout;http://www.lepoint.fr/chroniqueurs-du-point/guerric-poncet/bitcoin-les-gendarmes-demantelent-une-plate-forme-en-france-07-07-2014-1843937_506.php 747306;1404728515;assbot;Bitcoin : les gendarmes dmantlent une plateforme en France - Le Point 747307;1404728537;davout;388 btc seized 747308;1404728541;mircea_popescu;o.O 747309;1404728558;mircea_popescu;dotcoin had ~400 btc ?! 747310;1404728599;davout;i'm not sure it is dotcoin, but the cities and stupidity do match 747311;1404728612;mircea_popescu;"Slaves, Sewers and Captain Aguilera: Racism, colonialism and sexism in the Mentality of the Nationalist Officer Corps" asciilifeform i suspect this is going to be a little lopsided a retelling. 747312;1404728654;pankkake;3 people? and they're not consistent on the cities 747313;1404728659;mircea_popescu;L'opration a t mene "dans le cadre d'une information ouverte notamment pour exercice illgal d'oprations de banque, offre de paris ou jeux d'argent et de hasard en ligne et travail dissimul", 747314;1404728681;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: a bit. but this is the only english language bio of the famous Conde de Alba de Yeltes. 747315;1404728697;mircea_popescu;"Les mis en cause taient l'administrateur de ce site illgal, sa compagne et l'un de ses fournisseurs, lesquels ont t placs en garde vue", 747316;1404728727;mircea_popescu;so translation, "french govt wanting to keep up with the us, seizes 400 btc from a guy, his gf and... well... they're french so a third guy" 747317;1404728729;davout;pankkake: whaddaya mean they're not consistent? nice does match with dotcoin 747318;1404728751;pankkake;header has "Cannes, Nice, Toulouse et Bruxelles. " 747319;1404728759;pankkake;well, it's just one added, ok 747320;1404728784;davout;hm 747321;1404728840;davout;i guess we'll see 747322;1404728855;mircea_popescu;Hatreds were intensified during the right-wing campaign for the elections of 747323;1404728855;mircea_popescu;February 1936 which prophesied that left-wing victory would mean uncontrolled looting and 747324;1404728855;mircea_popescu;the common ownership of women 747325;1404728857;mircea_popescu;spanish lol 747326;1404728870;davout;mircea_popescu: "they're french so a third guy" <<< lel 747327;1404728887;davout;bitcoinbourse.eu is still online tho 747328;1404728906;mircea_popescu;i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land. 747329;1404728917;pankkake;http://www.abondance.com/actualites/20110809-11033-nouvelle-plainte-contre-google-pour-abus-de-position-dominante.html <= don't know if I published it earlier, but this is one of previous dotcoin's businesses (same address) 747330;1404728918;assbot;Nouvelle plainte contre Google pour abus de position dominante - Actualit Abondance 747331;1404728982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0134 = 0.536 BTC [+] 747332;1404729144;pankkake;feminists took over the left, otherwise the "equal access to sex" might have existed 747333;1404729159;mircea_popescu;i did not say equal access to sex. 747334;1404729163;mircea_popescu;i said quite the contrary. 747335;1404729183;pankkake;that doesn't sound very socialist 747336;1404729197;mircea_popescu;i guess you've never seen socialism then. 747337;1404729219;mircea_popescu;the way socialism works in practice is making all the women of a generation into a college, and give common ownership over them to a selection of men. 747338;1404729240;mircea_popescu;"After the capture of Almendralejo, one thousand prisoners were shot including one hundred women.8 After the shootings, the remaining women were raped." << lol the righties were trying for it. 747339;1404729292;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's a midway solution : the women get the socialism they wanted, being all equal, and in this equality a little above the average from before. nobody cares about the betas anyway, and the actual males that actually matter don't mind the arrangement so much. 747340;1404729297;chetty; i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land.//only works if women cant vote 747341;1404729309;mircea_popescu;it's the arab socialism, which works in practice. this braindamged "socialism of the family" is beyond the lolz. 747342;1404729324;mircea_popescu;chetty one votes in socialism now ?! 747343;1404729353;chetty;well current socialism has this pretend voting thing going on 747344;1404729382;mircea_popescu;well sure. 747345;1404729388;mircea_popescu;they can vote on reality show results. 747346;1404729395;mircea_popescu;that work ? 747347;1404729409;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13916 @ 0.00079865 = 11.114 BTC [+] 747348;1404729450;chetty;maybe it should be other way round, women get harem of X men each! 747349;1404729459;mircea_popescu;yeah. right. 747350;1404729478;mircea_popescu;because women are so totally willing to shoot anyone that pisses them off. 747351;1404729533;chetty;hmm ok thats a point, women with children only 747352;1404729552;mircea_popescu;that sounds like a great way to get yourself killed by your own children 747353;1404729554;mircea_popescu;for being a slut. 747354;1404729574;chetty;true equality at last :P 747355;1404729578;mircea_popescu;lol 747356;1404729590;mircea_popescu;but srsly, it's unfeasible. the men will compete, so will the children. 747357;1404729603;asciilifeform;as i understand, harem as SOP is a recipe that has to include a 'meat grinder' (for burning off the untermenschen) 747358;1404729609;mircea_popescu;none have any sort of mothering instinct to downregulate it. 747359;1404729629;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well of course. why the fuck do you suppose afghanistan is undefeatable by the us ? 747360;1404729636;mircea_popescu;us grunt has a wife at home. 747361;1404729642;asciilifeform;though to some extent you can get around this by 'cycling' the females faster (see the mormon, or arab, practice of marrying off daughters at X but sons at 3X age) 747362;1404729643;mircea_popescu;afghani grunt doth not, nor will he ever. 747363;1404729652;mircea_popescu;that dun work. 747364;1404729669;mircea_popescu;the arabs only do it with selected girls (ie, direct descendants) 747365;1404729710;asciilifeform;;;ud dependopotamus 747366;1404729711;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dependopotamus | Oct 16, 2008 ... An obese military members wife. AKA, BMW (Big Military Wife) The dependopotamus can often be found grazing at Burger King on any given ... 747367;1404729739;mircea_popescu;anyway. for all the "learning" these undersexed "social studies" postdocs have supposedly done 747368;1404729752;mircea_popescu;it's still shocking to me that three decades later they've STILL not figured out how to negotiate reality. 747369;1404729753;chetty;asciilifeform, that may be different now with birthcontrol 747370;1404729758;asciilifeform;http://birdmartin.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dependapotamus1.gif 747371;1404729822;asciilifeform;chetty: it only works on people who... use it 747372;1404729879;chetty;asciilifeform, like the chinese 747373;1404729897;asciilifeform;chetty: the only birth control that works on the 'lumpen' folks is the kind pitched by Captain Aguilera. 747374;1404729944;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform stalin had a pretty decent variant too 747375;1404729964;mircea_popescu;'Yes, yes, something to love!' Ruska took him up in a triumphant, hoarse whisper. 'But not history or theory -you can only love a woman!' He leaned over to Nerzhin's bunk and grasped him by the elbow. 'What have they really taken away from us, tell me? The right to go to party meetings or to buy state bonds? The one way the Big Chief could really hurt us was to deprive us of women. And that's what he's done. For twenty 747376;1404729965;mircea_popescu;-five years! The Bastard! Who can imagine,' he struck his chest with his fist, 'what women mean to a prisoner?' 747377;1404729990;mircea_popescu;basically, the socialists needed the west front grinder like air. and once the war was over... 747378;1404729998;mircea_popescu;well... the gulag wasn't avoidable, not practically. 747379;1404730022;mircea_popescu;to keep the country socialist one got to keep the country socialist, and that means keeping the cunts in a college and most of the guys off the market. 747380;1404730202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00079888 = 7.0301 BTC [+] {2} 747381;1404730239;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/29zw1g/post_your_favorite_lines_from_the_bitcoin_source/ 747382;1404730240;assbot;Post your favorite lines from the bitcoin source code. : Buttcoin 747383;1404730354;mircea_popescu;why does karpeles have such a pedo smile 747384;1404730418;mircea_popescu;"To me the real response is that you can't do what bitcoin wants to do on the internet without an external dependency." 747385;1404730431;mircea_popescu;"Imagine the market's reaction if a ddos took that single IP down and rendered worldwide mining impossible." 747386;1404730440;mircea_popescu;what the fuck, who do they think runs stock derpcode ? 747387;1404730446;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00079918 = 43.9549 BTC [+] {3} 747388;1404730475;mircea_popescu;centralist mindest at work, you know, he does exactly what his government tells you so obviously bitcoin miners couldn't be different so obviously nobody has heard of just replacing that with the proper ip of their machine 747389;1404730481;mircea_popescu;and so "bitcoin mining would stop working" 747390;1404730491;mircea_popescu;except it never has, tho showmyip was down plenty of times since 2009 747391;1404730497;mircea_popescu;herpyderp and a bottle of buttheads. 747392;1404730528;asciilifeform;it's considerably funnier when crapware authors hardcode 'showmyip' or similar. 747393;1404730599;mircea_popescu;like who, apple ? 747394;1404730617;asciilifeform;trojan artists 747395;1404730620;mircea_popescu;a 747396;1404730660;asciilifeform;seemingly inexplicably, some of the dumbest people alive. 747397;1404730690;mircea_popescu;not that inexplicably. they didn't find a better avenue. 747398;1404730701;mircea_popescu;"This was simply that the right coped with the loss of a real overseas empire by internalising the empire, that is to say, by regarding metropolitan Spain as the empire and the proletariat as the subject colonial race." << that's actually an interesting point. 747399;1404730717;asciilifeform;that was sorta the thesis of the article 747400;1404730722;asciilifeform;'internal recolonialization' 747401;1404730753;asciilifeform;one russian fellow (forget which) called the scheme 'colony with the state as sole european' 747402;1404730781;mircea_popescu;curious what the authors applying the principle to the us would come up with. 747403;1404730786;asciilifeform;orlov. 747404;1404730799;davout;jurov pankkake not dotcoin appartently -> http://www.lesechos.fr/finance-marches/banque-assurances/afp-00609051-demantelement-en-france-dun-trafic-de-bitcoins-une-premiere-en-europe-1022410.php 747405;1404730799;assbot;Dmantlement en France d'un trafic de bitcoins, une "premire en Europe", Banque - Assurances 747406;1404730813;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as described here: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html 747407;1404730813;assbot;ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops 747408;1404730894;mircea_popescu;"Hay que sembrar el terror hay que dar la sensacin de dominio eliminando sin escrpulos ni vacilacin a todos los que no piensen como nosotros. " 747409;1404730897;mircea_popescu;lmao nuts. 747410;1404730941;mircea_popescu;why's the intuition that any system predicated on having to kill dissenters is never going to win so hard to come to ? 747411;1404731006;asciilifeform;well, we kill cockroaches, mice, etc. without imagining that they'll ever really run out 747412;1404731032;mircea_popescu;but for what they are. 747413;1404731035;mircea_popescu;not for what they think. 747414;1404731045;mircea_popescu;we'll be killing people for having been involved with governments soon enough. 747415;1404731050;mircea_popescu;but nobody wil care what they think. 747416;1404731052;mircea_popescu;just what they've been. 747417;1404731062;asciilifeform;if roaches could think - we would probably cite their thoughts at their tribunals 747418;1404731071;mircea_popescu;nope 747419;1404731078;mircea_popescu;if roaches could think i'd prolly keep some around. 747420;1404731082;asciilifeform;lol 747421;1404731094;chetty;http://dailysignal.com/2014/07/05/federal-officials-propose-8-foot-fences-protect-endangered-mice/ 747422;1404731095;assbot;Federal Officials Propose 8-Foot Fences to Protect Endangered Mice 747423;1404731135;asciilifeform;chetty: another solar farm racket ? 747424;1404731155;chetty;I guess someone wants to think mice will run out 747425;1404731155;asciilifeform;chetty: don't imagine anyone actually gives a shit about rare mouse 747426;1404731180;mircea_popescu;well listen, if they're cute and run out the "entire economy" might grind to a halt. 747427;1404731183;asciilifeform;see earlier example with solar plant contractor 747428;1404731221;mircea_popescu;"They killed one thousand, six hundred of the towns inhabitants as well as repeatedly raping young women considered to be of the left." << what was the test, i wonder ? 747429;1404731227;mircea_popescu;left tit higher than right tit ? 747430;1404731255;mircea_popescu;(should work, it's usually the case) 747431;1404731262;asciilifeform;chetty: example: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/04/12/bombshell-harry-reid-behind-bundy-cattle-ranch-scandal-according-to-purged-documents-112136 747432;1404731264;assbot;Harry Reid connected to Bundy cattle ranch, according to purged documents - BizPac Review 747433;1404731264;chetty;lots of 'land grabs' are based on 'saving' something. Soon enough US will be like Spain, landowner(gubermint) and peasants 747434;1404731264;pankkake;davout: the link to an altcoin casino is still in favor to BitcoinBourse. however dotcoin is german 747435;1404731321;davout;pankkake: yeah they mention tunisian, hence, not dotcoin 747436;1404731336;davout;what's the casino link you're referring to ? 747437;1404731348;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i recall reading that way back when the scandal broke 747438;1404731361;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00214731 = 1.6105 BTC [+] 747439;1404731362;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579498.0 747440;1404731362;assbot;delete 747441;1404731368;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it was loudly, repeatedly 'debunked' by the mouthpiece organs 747442;1404731376;mircea_popescu;right. 747443;1404731376;pankkake;https://twitter.com/bitcoinbourse/status/473233659714342912 747444;1404731377;assbot;Altcoin Casino Shares ( Symbol "ACS" ) now on https://t.co/EXFOq5egFR /hashtag/ACS?src=hash List your Shares! 747445;1404731441;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 747446;1404731443;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 626.66, Best ask: 628.87, Bid-ask spread: 2.21000, Last trade: 626.5, 24 hour volume: 2938.85445654, 24 hour low: 624.0, 24 hour high: 637.8, 24 hour vwap: 630.614079771 747447;1404731697;davout;pankkake: mebbe he's in the mix somehow, anyway 747448;1404731727;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 707 @ 0.00214885 = 1.5192 BTC [+] {2} 747449;1404731910;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00079603 = 5.4496 BTC [-] 747450;1404732061;mircea_popescu;Mola wanted Sperrle to destroy Basque industry. With Bilbao about to fall to the Nationalists, this request disconcerted the German. Mola said if half of all Spanish factories were destroyed by our aircraft, the subsequent reconstruction of Spain would be greatly facilitated. However, the Nationalist government could not just destroy industry once victory was assured. Spain is dominated in a totally sick w 747451;1404732061;mircea_popescu;ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a countrys industrial base, telling him that I have never in my life heard such idiocy 747452;1404732070;mircea_popescu;o.O someone gave zee nazis pause. 747453;1404732151;asciilifeform;gandhi wanted precisely this, in his motherland - but for some reason nobody remembers. 747454;1404732190;mircea_popescu;not a different reason in any sense 747455;1404732202;mircea_popescu;ghandi wanted old men to sleep naked with their nieces forever. 747456;1404732217;mircea_popescu;mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever. 747457;1404732250;mircea_popescu;the point makes sense, if the choice is between ten dollars when everyone has one or a hundred dollars when everyone has a hundred, then to be rich is to have ten dollars. 747458;1404732305;asciilifeform;herr Richthofen, however, understood that if your agrarian paradise can't produce airplanes by the thousand, it is the prison bitch of the folks who can. 747459;1404732332;asciilifeform;obligatory: 747460;1404732335;asciilifeform;!s you and the atomic bomb 747461;1404732336;assbot;2 results for 'you and the atomic bomb' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=you+and+the+atomic+bomb 747462;1404732359;mircea_popescu;well obviously. 747463;1404732377;mircea_popescu;but whether an ideal works or does not work has little ideal implication. 747464;1404732409;asciilifeform;obvious - to us. but, apparently, not to the folks who desperately wanted a return to whichever century they connected their childhood with 747465;1404732420;mircea_popescu;which poses quite the conundrum to ideologies predicated on ideal purity 747466;1404732429;mircea_popescu;hence the sperrle shock. 747467;1404732459;mircea_popescu;which also makes all this talk of "fighting corruption" rather dubious. if not corruption then purity, and consequently... mola's paradise ? 747468;1404732483;asciilifeform;'fight corruption' is always 'fight the other fellow's corruption so i can cash in' 747469;1404732487;asciilifeform;and never any other thing 747470;1404732496;mircea_popescu;not verbally. 747471;1404732503;asciilifeform;see the 'insider trading' prosecutions in usa, for example./ 747472;1404732545;mircea_popescu;but they never say "corruption is great but this other fellow i sdoing it wrong" 747473;1404732546;mircea_popescu;which is a problem. 747474;1404732565;mircea_popescu;gives the fucktards (like say the people reading politico) the wrong impression. 747475;1404732580;mircea_popescu;and the problem with fucktards is that they're always the children, which means they'll have to mange on their own someday. 747476;1404732596;mircea_popescu;and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz. 747477;1404732629;chetty; and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz.<<> clitler. 747502;1404733075;chetty;female of course 747503;1404733078;mircea_popescu;which us republic is this anwyay ? 3rd ? 747504;1404733086;asciilifeform;4th 747505;1404733090;asciilifeform;(per mr mold) 747506;1404733099;mircea_popescu;how's that count go ? 747507;1404733119;asciilifeform;;;google moldbug usg4 747508;1404733120;gribble;USG: more Russian than the Tsar, more Muslim than Osama: ; Unqualified Reservations: September 2010: ; AIACC – Call For Papers | Handle's Haus: ; The Marshmallow Test - YouTube: ; Joachim de Posada: Don't eat the marshmallow! | Talk Video | TED ...: 747570;1404733927;mircea_popescu;actually i recall this hilarious scene where mother was trying to feed baby while bent over it, using her hands to work 747571;1404733934;mircea_popescu;and baby kept kicking tit out of his mouth 747572;1404733936;cazalla;ours is a good baby though, started sleeping through nights from 3 months, only cries if hungry, not demanding at all 747573;1404733945;mircea_popescu;then being puzzled for the second while it settled down back in his mouth 747574;1404733969;chetty;cazalla, see even you described 'good baby' 747575;1404733969;cazalla;as long as we respond to whatever it is he wanted, his demands cease, doesn't seem like personality to me 747576;1404733977;mircea_popescu;o.O 747577;1404733981;cazalla;good as in good for me and wife 747578;1404734005;mircea_popescu;Spanish grandeur was at its height in the Sixteenth Century, when the sun never set on her dominions. Our great century, the century of the mystics, the saints and the artists. The century of the Spanish Empire! Well, do you know how many inhabitants our fatherland had then when it was truly great? Twelve millions! What does it matter is half the population has to disappear if that is what is required for us t 747579;1404734005;mircea_popescu;o reconquer our Empire? 747580;1404734010;mircea_popescu;ahahah these fucking idiots lmao. 747581;1404734041;mircea_popescu;at the time spain was 12 million, england was 2.8, and the only thing keeping everyone from sucking caliph cock was the difficulty in traversing 5000 miles with an army 747582;1404734065;asciilifeform;'hatefacts!' 747583;1404734067;mircea_popescu;even so spanyards today are about as white as the sicilians. 747584;1404734094;mircea_popescu;which, to quote mr whorley, 747585;1404734097;mircea_popescu;"It's a fact. Yeah. You see, uh, Sicilians have, uh, black blood pumpin' through their hearts. Hey, no, if eh, if eh, if you don't believe me, uh, you can look it up. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, uh, you see, uh, the Moors conquered Sicily. And the Moors are niggers." 747586;1404734107;cazalla;so am i wrong to oppose gays marrying and raising children? 747587;1404734121;mircea_popescu;cazalla there's no wrong dude. you think whatever you think. 747588;1404734122;cazalla;they raise kids as it is anyway so guess it doesn't really matter 747589;1404734127;mircea_popescu;unsurprisingly, your thinking has problems. 747590;1404734130;mircea_popescu;so has everyone else's. 747591;1404734139;mircea_popescu;pick a set of problems you can live with. 747592;1404734173;cazalla;well yes you said this many months ago when you said it was xenophobic 747593;1404734179;cazalla;said i 747594;1404734191;cazalla;that it too had problems 747595;1404734197;mircea_popescu;!s xenophobic 747596;1404734197;assbot;4 results for 'xenophobic' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=xenophobic 747597;1404734221;pankkake;well given that most couples appear to be females, there's not much you can do anyway 747598;1404734254;mircea_popescu;pankkake nor does it make much practical difference. it's like better daycare, if they didn't adopt they'd be hired to care for those kids in a state run institution. 747599;1404734290;pankkake;there really isn't a lack of parents wanting to adopt 747600;1404734294;cazalla;daycare is degenerate 747601;1404734310;mircea_popescu;cazalla why ? 747602;1404734315;mircea_popescu;pankkake i dunno about that. 747603;1404734341;pankkake;at least if you want a western kid 747604;1404734360;pankkake;most adoption agencies said gays won't be a priority, so adoption through that is going to be… never 747605;1404734390;chetty;abortion on demand tends to produce a shortage of adoptable babies 747606;1404734403;pankkake;yes clearly 747607;1404734404;cazalla;it just doesn't make sense to pay someone else to raise your kid, someone that you don't really know, seems more a convenience for parents so they can work to purchase trinkets 747608;1404734413;mircea_popescu;chetty last i checked us foster homes were undersupplied badly. 747609;1404734439;mircea_popescu;cazalla it makes the following sense : your wife will only learn to fuck so well it'll surprise you if you send her to work in a brothel. 747610;1404734450;mircea_popescu;and your kids are only going to make you proud if they spend time with strangers. 747611;1404734452;chetty;mircea_popescu, foster is different, child services just loves to take and place kids 747612;1404734452;cazalla;even that would not help my wife 747613;1404734490;cazalla;sure, as he grows up but some of this women stick their kid in day care at 3 months just so they can get back to work, seems a critical time for mother/child 747614;1404734502;mircea_popescu;well yes. 747615;1404734511;mircea_popescu;but now you're discussing degree, not the principle of the matter. 747616;1404734567;chetty;daycare seems more needed since kids cant play outside 747617;1404734568;mircea_popescu;chetty not to mention all those kids at the border :p 747618;1404734624;pankkake;for many, it's not a choice anymore - the man only can not afford to feed his family… when there is a man 747619;1404734632;pankkake;!up ltcpro 747620;1404734646;mircea_popescu;pankkake which simply means that man shouldn't have a family in the first place. 747621;1404734651;cazalla;yes but it's only not a choice because women decided to value careers over being a homekeeper 747622;1404734674;mircea_popescu;cazalla men decided to value women that value other shit than homekeeping. 747623;1404734684;cazalla;funny that men didn't have problems paying the bills, mortage etc when women stayed at home 747624;1404734689;mircea_popescu;this predates the sufragettes by about half a century. 747625;1404734708;mircea_popescu;it's all male driven. even if not driven by most of the males. it's driven by the males that matter, which are the males women care about anyway. 747626;1404734736;mircea_popescu;this entire nonsense depicting feminism as a woman driven thing... heh. mkay. 747627;1404734740;mircea_popescu;they're just trying to serve. 747628;1404734742;pankkake;tax structure. work is heavily taxed, services often offers tax reductions 747629;1404734759;mircea_popescu;pankkake i don't follow this argument. 747630;1404734764;pankkake;I don't think this is a "natural" change 747631;1404734820;pankkake;a single worker has less purchasing power than before 747632;1404734829;mircea_popescu;of course. 747633;1404734847;mircea_popescu;only because you use a bizarre standard tho. 747634;1404734851;mircea_popescu;he can buy more grain than before. 747635;1404734862;mircea_popescu;it's just you somehow decided it's ok for the worker to buy magic tools nowadays. 747636;1404734865;cazalla;can he buy more mcdonalds though 747637;1404734867;mircea_popescu;how much was an ipad "before" ? 747638;1404734877;mircea_popescu;cazalla nope. 747639;1404734895;mircea_popescu;before he couldn't either. he ate humble pie. 747640;1404734897;asciilifeform;can't live in an 'ipad' though. 747641;1404734903;cazalla;healthier 747642;1404734916;pankkake;what about housing/medical/education? 747643;1404734917;mircea_popescu;"When war broke out, the village was collectivised and 747644;1404734917;mircea_popescu;food supplies rationed until fields could be tilled and the harvest came in. His fighting bulls 747645;1404734917;mircea_popescu;were killed for food and the villagers tasted red meat for the first time in their lives. " 747646;1404734930;mircea_popescu;single worker, before. ate red meat for the first time in his life... accidentally. 747647;1404734932;asciilifeform;the only interesting costs, to monitor, for the question of 'what could worker afford then vs now' is food and rent 747648;1404734953;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you can either compare same exact item, ie, grain. literally. grain 747649;1404734958;chetty;and energy 747650;1404734965;mircea_popescu;or else scale. if you scale you make some implications. 747651;1404734974;asciilifeform;housing - at least in usa - is where the real racket is. 747652;1404735016;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform from what i recall ohio was cheap :p 747653;1404735034;mircea_popescu;"before" the poor laborer only lived in town if an actual townsman took him as a household slave. 747654;1404735036;asciilifeform;notice also that the 'technology' - as in, the nature of the actual 'machine that keeps the rain out' has regressed, rather than advanced. 747655;1404735066;asciilifeform;ohio is 'cheap' to the californian who never sets foot there. 747656;1404735082;mircea_popescu;no, objectively. what was it, 30k to buy ? 747657;1404735113;mircea_popescu;1k ounces of silver for a property is less than what it was. "before". 747658;1404735118;asciilifeform;see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607004 747659;1404735119;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 747660;1404735138;nubbins`;!s stochastic 747661;1404735139;assbot;18 results for 'stochastic' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stochastic 747662;1404735147;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform looky here. either one is an engineer (ie, guild member) or not. 747663;1404735152;mircea_popescu;if he is, then this discussion is not about him. 747664;1404735156;mircea_popescu;if he is not he should stop pretending. 747665;1404735178;chetty;well with all the landgrab people are getting forced into the urban areas 747666;1404735189;mircea_popescu;now as before :D 747667;1404735194;asciilifeform;in usa, the discussion concerns more or less everyone 747668;1404735195;mircea_popescu;god i love this before device. 747669;1404735201;asciilifeform;even the supposedly 'rich' 747670;1404735204;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what everyone ? 747671;1404735206;nubbins`;korea has been slowly migrating to seoul since the 50s 747672;1404735290;asciilifeform;housing racket is just one of the mechanisms used in usa to separate folks from their 'excess fat', but it is the one best visible to unarmed eye 747673;1404735316;mircea_popescu;what do you mean by "folk" ? 747674;1404735322;nubbins`;rubes 747675;1404735330;mircea_popescu;the multitude of laborers that'd like to pretend themselves townsfolk ? 747676;1404735359;asciilifeform;with mechanisation of agriculture, everyone is stuck pretending to be a burgher 747677;1404735368;mircea_popescu;no, inasmuch as some actually are. 747678;1404735373;asciilifeform;some - yes. 747679;1404735386;nubbins`;y'know, i come here for the socioeconomic discourse more than anything else 747680;1404735394;mircea_popescu;granted, having the rest pretend like they're included rather than being shot a la franco is a great accolade for the burgher press 747681;1404735405;mircea_popescu;but it ain't changing the substance, as good packaging as it may be. 747682;1404735417;mircea_popescu;nubbins` :p 747683;1404735428;nubbins`;c'est vrai! 747684;1404735481;mircea_popescu;kinda why college education is so important, and its widening so unavoidable, and including the blacks so paramountly important. 747685;1404735505;mircea_popescu;a critical mass of laborers that stop trying to pretend like they're burghers could well be the end of it 747686;1404735509;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00079636 = 24.1695 BTC [+] {2} 747687;1404735510;mircea_popescu;hence all the "red pill" talk. 747688;1404735513;asciilifeform;let's go straight to the guild. the proverbial google grunt, who pays 150k usd / yr. to live in auto range of his 200k gig - is he a proper burgher? or peon imposter? 747689;1404735522;mircea_popescu;peon imposter. 747690;1404735547;mircea_popescu;the measuring stick is very simple to implement : post on your blog something about niggers. 747691;1404735556;mircea_popescu;if you're fine a year later, you're a burgher. 747692;1404735572;mircea_popescu;any other outcome, such as not having a blog, or the word on your keyboard, or a job after ? 747693;1404735574;mircea_popescu;peon impostor. 747694;1404735597;asciilifeform;might be too easy - some folks have very apathetic inquisitors attached 747695;1404735599;mircea_popescu;that's what burghers got : the franchise, ie, th right to express themselves. 747696;1404735639;mircea_popescu;ok, so tell your boss you're not doing X. period. 747697;1404735642;mircea_popescu;same thing. 747698;1404735660;mircea_popescu;that's the deep problem with the baker not wanting to bake gay cake. 747699;1404735664;asciilifeform;easier to go with the ancient formula - live off salary? peon. live off capital? burgher 747700;1404735669;mircea_popescu;he thinks himself a burgher. the guild begs to differ. 747701;1404735688;mircea_popescu;it's not either easy or effectual, because capital is no longer meaniungful in fiat 747702;1404735692;asciilifeform;aka 'fuck you money' etc 747703;1404735696;mircea_popescu;but ok, if you live off your bitcoin investments, then yes. 747704;1404735722;mircea_popescu;otherwise, nobody has any capital. inasmuch as they can't just wire it to bin laden's boys if they choose to. 747705;1404735723;cazalla;yeah, i live off my capital atm but i'm a peon 747706;1404735733;cazalla;so that doesn't work 747707;1404735834;asciilifeform;who doesn't want to be burgher. 747708;1404735923;mircea_popescu;historically, hunters. 747709;1404735930;asciilifeform;aye, the nomads. 747710;1404735944;asciilifeform;(anyone who wants to be nomad - straight to herr orlov) 747711;1404736099;cazalla;whiskey and gay parent talk and now you have me rattled 747712;1404736125;mircea_popescu;!up everclear 747713;1404736284;mircea_popescu;!up fluffyghost 747714;1404736387;BingoBoingo;!up Corey 747715;1404736392;BingoBoingo;!up darlidada 747716;1404736397;BingoBoingo;!up julmac 747717;1404736401;BingoBoingo;!up B0g4r7 747718;1404736592;nubbins`;!up GNULinuxGuy 747719;1404736604;nubbins`;!up Guest26237 747720;1404736873;mircea_popescu;""For instance, well be done with this nonsense of equality for women. I breed horses and animals generally, you understand. I know all about women. Therell be no more nonsense about subjecting a gentleman to court action. If a womans unfaithful to him, hell shoot her like a dog. Its disgusting, any interference of a court between a man and a wife. 747721;1404736919;mircea_popescu;right, because she's going to be unfaithful with martians. 747722;1404736973;mircea_popescu;i'd be really curious to see how that'd work in practice, this state which doesn't get involved in sex distribution. 747723;1404736985;mircea_popescu;seeing how it's never existed, historically. 747724;1404737711;punkman;%tslb 747725;1404737712;atcbot;55 minutes and 9 seconds 747726;1404737831;BingoBoingo;%d 747727;1404737832;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 452352.49 in 1661 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -42.39 747728;1404738132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00079683 = 25.1001 BTC [+] {3} 747729;1404738498;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27863 @ 0.00079891 = 22.26 BTC [+] {2} 747730;1404738610;jurov;lol cazalla what are single parents to do? get rationed a partner by state or by family? 747731;1404738647;jurov;try saying that to your missus she should do it if something hapens to you 747732;1404738723;jurov;you might want to take responsibility to your hands and line up ersatz man yourself 747733;1404739369;ThickAsThieves;lol Ver offered $10 to the Ross Ulbricht defense for every retweet, 16,500 later he says "More retweets welcome, but the donation limit has been reached." 747734;1404739452;nubbins`;"every" 747735;1404739476;cazalla;jurov: if i died, i'd expect her to try and find another provider but most single parents aren't single because they're widows 747736;1404739531;cazalla;they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit 747737;1404739547;jurov;how many woman are single because man knocked them and stopped caring after? they're in same position as widows 747738;1404739673;cazalla;she should've made a better choice in partner then 747739;1404739698;cazalla;or her parents should've arranged a marriage to man who would provide for her and child 747740;1404739724;nubbins`;;;ud trite 747741;1404739725;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trite | trite. corny; lacking in freshness or effectiveness because of constant use or excessive repetition. Yo, you ain't saying nothing new. You mad trite! -That was a hot ... 747742;1404739752;nubbins`;GREAT POINTS CAZALLA 747743;1404739766;BingoBoingo;;;ud tripe 747744;1404739767;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tripe | don't believe all those other little girls who gave their definitions of tripe. tripe is stomach lining of animals. it's delicious stuff, a nice ch... 747745;1404739787;ThickAsThieves;http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/07/06/328466757/columbusing-the-art-of-discovering-something-that-is-not-new 747746;1404739787;assbot;'Columbusing': The Art Of Discovering Something That Is Not New : Code Switch : NPR 747747;1404739869;cazalla;i think it's a reasonable ideal 747748;1404739889;cazalla;because tax payer foots the bill for her mistake so she can stay home 747749;1404739912;cazalla;it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government cause i have to pay for someone elses kid 747750;1404739960;cazalla;anyway i've been drinking so pay no attention, i will berate degenerates for their lifestyle on one hand and look for another girlfriend on the other 747751;1404739963;nubbins`;taxpayer foots the bill for everybody's everything 747752;1404739994;ThickAsThieves;http://newsbtc.com/2014/07/07/isis-blog-global-jihad/ 747753;1404739995;assbot;ISIS-Linked Blog Reportedly Says Bitcoin Could Be Used For ‘Global Jihad’ | NEWSBTC 747754;1404740003;nubbins`;it's like i have to pay for firefighters even though my house isn't on fire blah blah etc 747755;1404740009;*;nubbins` makes masturbatory gesture 747756;1404740010;jurov;"she made mistake" problem conveniently sweeped under the carpet 747757;1404740018;ThickAsThieves;"This system has the potential to revive the lost sunnah of donating to the mujahideen, it is simple, easy, and we ask Allah to hasten it’s usage for us." 747758;1404740044;nubbins`;implying raising a kid alone is super fun 747759;1404740083;cazalla;i'm not saying that at all 747760;1404740085;jurov;singles, lesbians and gays raised children ever since. some "shoulds" won't change anything about it. 747761;1404740118;cazalla;yeah look for what it's worth, missus good friend is gay and he's a good bloke and came to visit us in hospital and i didn't shoo him away because i know him 747762;1404740121;pankkake;cazalla> it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government => yep 747763;1404740169;nubbins`;implying that there aren't just as many two-parent families getting government money 747764;1404740175;pankkake;nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers 747765;1404740188;cazalla;i'm quite ok with cutting off funding to all of them 747766;1404740189;pankkake;I can't understand it but… 747767;1404740206;nubbins`;there's a significant portion of amish in pennsylvania 747768;1404740212;jurov;pankkake what's hard to understand about there are no worthy guys? 747769;1404740213;pankkake;lol 747770;1404740239;cazalla;if no worthy guys, how do women manage to have a baby then 747771;1404740249;cazalla;all piv rape? 747772;1404740261;jurov;sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house 747773;1404740266;nubbins`;^ 747774;1404740328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24791 @ 0.00079528 = 19.7158 BTC [-] {2} 747775;1404740328;pankkake;Un ami pour le chic, un amant pour le choc, un mari pour le chèque 747776;1404740608;cazalla;plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with 747777;1404740672;cazalla;single parent pension in australia - $713.20 747778;1404740677;cazalla;a fortnight 747779;1404740700;cazalla;it's almost like they encourage women to do this 747780;1404740727;cazalla;ill shut up now, i will feel foolish reading logs tmw 747781;1404740737;pankkake;it's an encouragement, I just wonder whether it is intentional 747782;1404740772;cazalla;maybe MP is right in saying problem is with masses of men 747783;1404740813;pankkake;remember that marxists wanted to break families; children raised by the community 747784;1404740817;asciilifeform;naturally intentional. folks like huxley, etc. who imagined that the totalitarian kingdoms of the future would farm children in mass orphanages got it all wrong. the 'children of the state' are instead grown - like described above. 747785;1404740874;pankkake;and family can be seen as an adversary to socialism. better to have people alone, lost, with no social structure to fall back on except the State 747786;1404740939;jurov;lol we're back to conspirations 747787;1404740949;cazalla;well, i was gonna mention jews 747788;1404740952;jurov;for me, much simpler picture emerged in past days 747789;1404740964;cazalla;or merchant conspiracies heh rubs hands 747790;1404740980;fluffypony;it's the illuminati 747791;1404741009;cazalla;someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here 747792;1404741012;jurov;people (of both sexes) enjoy participating in system where the results are by several levels removed from their efforts 747793;1404741029;jurov;this was not the case before 747794;1404741059;jurov;when it comes to childrearing, the results are not avoidable but one is not prepared to handle it 747795;1404741060;pankkake;why does it have to be a conspiracy? 747796;1404741082;jurov;you picture above as tsome sinister goal of socialism 747797;1404741085;cazalla;they won't take from my pocket much longer, aging population here in australia, no-one is having kids so no tax payers to fund aged care, total welfare state where 1 in 4 receive some type of benefit, it ends soon 747798;1404741097;jurov;but it grew pretty organically 747799;1404741098;pankkake;socialists dislike family, thus will approve things that undermine it 747800;1404741117;pankkake;it doesn't need concerted effort 747801;1404741205;jurov;so what? we have gotten us to the point we have enough surplus food to feed them. this isn't the core of the problem 747802;1404741282;jurov;and it you propose starving, then you run in the case that starved people are yet more irrational 747803;1404741305;asciilifeform;if only feeding people turned them 'rational'... 747804;1404741346;pankkake;http://www.challenges.fr/economie/20140624.CHA5358/la-caisse-de-retraite-complementaire-des-cadres-en-deficits.html <= was going to link this, a pension fund that is starting to have financial issues - the video below… BITCOIN 747805;1404741347;assbot;La caisse de retraite complmentaire des cadres en dficits - Challenges 747806;1404741361;BingoBoingo;Well, feeding people might be why china wants to steal all of the cutting edge seed corn 747807;1404741394;pankkake;if only corn was food 747808;1404741404;pankkake;I'd rather have soylent green 747809;1404741499;jurov;yeah, lets go back before neolithic revolution, that solves everything 747810;1404741611;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'terminator seed' is actually a very intriguing instrument from the standpoint of the mega-state. solves the ancient problem of the peasants not really needing the state for much of anything (as described in j. scott's 'the art of not being governed.') 747811;1404741632;asciilifeform;won't play ball? no seeds for next crop. 747812;1404741674;cazalla;life finds a way, you have not seen jurassic park? 747813;1404741691;asciilifeform;i can easily imagine chinese gov. handing out chicom-monsanto seeds, aerial spray of 'roundup' at public expense 747814;1404741741;asciilifeform;cazalla: death also finds a way. (caught planting unauthorized organism? firing squad.) 747815;1404741759;BingoBoingo;Indeed. Sure the hybrids popular now aren't technically terminator seeds yet, but... Carrying them another generation yeilds... little. 747816;1404741817;BingoBoingo;Pulling tassels off of the wrong rows of corn to prevent the wrong hybrids at the seed farms is a thing for a reason... 747817;1404741852;cazalla;we've got dodgson here! how would they catch you? unenforceable law isn't it? 747818;1404741880;asciilifeform;cazalla: the interesting thing is that they needn't catch anyone. merely spray herbicide (authorized crop is resistant. others - not.) 747819;1404741964;BingoBoingo;In the Middle West private investigators that collect samples from fields to sent to the various seed vendors to check for unlicensed use of their "IP" is a thing 747820;1404741992;asciilifeform;the chinese could always go with the retarded (though 'humane') american style subjugation of the farmers - i.e. by herding them into growing crud for which the market is mostly artificial, built by government hands 747821;1404742007;asciilifeform;!s trilema the corn thing 747822;1404742008;assbot;1 results for 'trilema the corn thing' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trilema+the+corn+thing 747823;1404742019;kakobrekla;hah, the replacement ps2 adapter only has 1 bad solder joint instead of 3 747824;1404742078;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: when grunting over a bad solder joint, remember to say 'thank you' to the lead ban folks. 747825;1404742147;kakobrekla;heh 747826;1404742202;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: private investigators that collect samples from fields << always wondered why they aren't simply shot on sight 747827;1404742241;asciilifeform;- in principle, they're tresspassers, no ? 747828;1404742250;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, it's a cat and mouse game. The snoop gets more practice and even farmers sleep. 747829;1404742284;asciilifeform;do they even occasionally eat lead? 747830;1404742294;kakobrekla;at least the copper layer was not ripped of the board on this one so its fixable 747831;1404742328;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: also thank the lead-free folks for separated tracks. high melting point of lead-free alloy -> hot iron -> lifted tracks 747832;1404742329;BingoBoingo;Well, I dunno if they did that the masters would ever admit what they were 747833;1404742406;nubbins`;i lifted a pad once when modifying an expensive synth 747834;1404742407;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: these people must already have 'special' legal status - even the copyrasts are not yet permitted to burgle houses to determine who has w4r3z, etc. 747835;1404742409;nubbins`;sad times 747836;1404742476;kakobrekla;asciilifeform dunno it seems mostly low end china fabs have this issue 747837;1404742484;kakobrekla;_mostly_ 747838;1404742497;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: yes. they're using soldering equipment designed for leaded alloy - on lead-free 747839;1404742506;kakobrekla;aha 747840;1404742604;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself 747841;1404742659;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu, others: re: electronics-sniffing dog << distraction psyop. in real life, hidden electronics are found with a nonlinear junction detector. 747842;1404742702;asciilifeform;(basic physical principle - any semiconductor is a rectifier. any conductor is antenna. together - 'rfid' whether you wanted or not.) 747843;1404742758;nubbins`;!s mycelium 747844;1404742758;assbot;21 results for 'mycelium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mycelium 747845;1404742975;chetty;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4aBIti2nKU 747846;1404742976;assbot;ABC News says patients are lining up to take the Mark of the Beast - YouTube 747847;1404743435;mircea_popescu; they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit << nah, most are single for jurov's reason. 747848;1404743540;nubbins`;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/07/0228259/tsa-prohibits-discharged-electronic-devices-onto-planes 747849;1404743541;assbot;TSA Prohibits Discharged Electronic Devices Onto Planes - Slashdot 747850;1404743562;*;nubbins` chuckles 747851;1404743574;nubbins`;phones must be TURNED ON AND IN AIRPLANE MODE 747852;1404743576;nubbins`;NO EXCEPTIONS 747853;1404743594;mircea_popescu; nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers << you mean on the internet or irl ? 747854;1404743612;*;nubbins` continues chuckling 747855;1404743676;pankkake;irl 747856;1404743679;mircea_popescu; sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house << for srs. 747857;1404743698;mircea_popescu; plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with << also a good point. 747858;1404743721;mircea_popescu;the problem is that you don't really want to live i nthe society which forces you t obe the sort of guy that's a good mate to have a baby with. 747859;1404743738;mircea_popescu;you wish to live in the society where you can pretend trhat you're cool and have gfs. 747860;1404743773;cazalla;yeah that's true 747861;1404743800;mircea_popescu; someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here << i don' do manboobs 747862;1404743817;mircea_popescu;cazalla well if it's true then what do you want, it has some drawbacks. 747863;1404743818;asciilifeform;st augustine's 'god, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet!' 747864;1404743866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00079721 = 19.2925 BTC [+] 747865;1404743877;mircea_popescu;actually i see jurov stated it above. exactly it. 747866;1404743901;mircea_popescu;you want sexual promiscuity for yourself, it'll be the norm, especially if you're banal. it being the norm... it'll be the norm, stop bitchin'. 747867;1404743912;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 747868;1404743920;cazalla;i want some indian candy lol 747869;1404743955;cazalla;i can't afford to have both at this time so perhaps that's where the frustration really comes from 747870;1404743963;asciilifeform;can't help but recall the american expression 'indian gift' 747871;1404743969;asciilifeform;(i.e. one with 'strings') 747872;1404743981;cazalla;not that sort of indian asciilifeform 747873;1404743986;indiancandy1;indian gift means? 747874;1404744033;mircea_popescu;also yes, as usual : the main utility of monsanto bs actually is in china. 747875;1404744058;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 a gift someone asks back. 747876;1404744069;indiancandy1;thats rud 747877;1404744070;indiancandy1;rud 747878;1404744071;indiancandy1;e 747879;1404744087;indiancandy1;do people do that 747880;1404744092;mircea_popescu;english settlers didn't understand redskin ownership systems 747881;1404744093;indiancandy1;id tell them 2 fuck off 747882;1404744101;mircea_popescu;they wanted "permanent" indians did "for a while" 747883;1404744103;ThickAsThieves;<+indiancandy1> do people do that /// mostly children and governments 747884;1404744115;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giver 747885;1404744115;assbot;Indian giver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 747886;1404744142;indiancandy1;ahh i see 747887;1404744248;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: sexual promiscuity... it'll be the norm, stop bitchin << interesting how early 20th c. folks imagined that birth control would be 'a thing' - i.e. that people would actually use it, and promiscuity would have zero impact on how children are brought up 747888;1404744286;asciilifeform;good example of what, for the lack of a better term, i think of as 'partial differentiation' 747889;1404744287;mircea_popescu; (basic physical principle - any semiconductor is a rectifier. any conductor is antenna. together - 'rfid' whether you wanted or not.) << the ability to put this heory in practice is severely limited for a government that spends 1 bn for a website., 747890;1404744307;asciilifeform;e.g. 'we can have exactly the kind of civilization we grew up with, but with Moar Sex!' 747891;1404744319;mircea_popescu;pankkake i srsly don't see it. who knows, maybe we talk to differen people. 747892;1404744328;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform good term. 747893;1404744342;mircea_popescu;"we want the soviet union but with gizmos" -> "we wand democracy" - 747894;1404744348;mircea_popescu;> "what the shit is this!!1" 747895;1404744362;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: lucky the brits invented the NJD right after ww2. and made, sold, even in the meanest pestholes on the planet. 747896;1404744394;mircea_popescu;anyway, people actually do use birth control. 747897;1404744455;indiancandy1;people use birthcontrol 747898;1404744467;indiancandy1;my mom is a gynacologist 747899;1404744470;indiancandy1;however u spel it 747900;1404744479;indiancandy1;well in the uk 747901;1404744496;asciilifeform;don't buy russian, chinese njd. it'll cook yer balls. but will pick up a semiconductor through a metre of concrete. 747902;1404744511;indiancandy1;apart from the weird catholic fanatics that sit outside abortion clinics and gum clinics with dead baby foetues dummies and crosses 747903;1404744519;indiancandy1;god knows what got into them 747904;1404744532;kakobrekla;its vagynacologist 747905;1404744534;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 maybe not enough sex 747906;1404744584;indiancandy1;am i the only one to find this funny marilyn manson posted something online saying the virgin mary wasnt a virgin because god raped her 747907;1404744599;pankkake;gum clinics? 747908;1404744604;mircea_popescu;god didn't rape her, she was asking for it. 747909;1404744616;pankkake;oh G.U.M. 747910;1404744634;mike_c;asciilifeform: NJD? 747911;1404744645;asciilifeform;mike_c: nonlinear junction detector 747912;1404744647;mircea_popescu;nonlinear junction detctor 747913;1404744648;mircea_popescu;damn 747914;1404744650;mike_c;thx 747915;1404744684;mircea_popescu;"In 1910, Gonzalo had fallen in love with a celebrated beauty in Salamanca, Ins Luna Terrero. She was extremely rich and, like Gonzalo, spoke English, French and German. She was a progressive feminist who shocked local opinion because she smoked and wore trousers. She was devastated when, in 1911, Gonzalo broke off the engagement in favour of Magdalena lvarez Ruiz, the daughter of a cochero (a man who hired out 747916;1404744684;mircea_popescu;carriages and cars). Ins Luna Terrero never married and apparently, for the rest of her life, carried a torch for the dashingly handsome cavalry officer." << how did that expression go, nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes, too much fraternizing with the enemy ? 747917;1404744691;pankkake;I've been spammed by an anti-abortion group, they sent me dead baby foetuses pictures, on glossy paper 747918;1404744698;asciilifeform;these aren't a 'martian' technology at all - everyone who makes a living searching for 'bugs', hidden cameras, the like - owns one. 747919;1404744718;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you can make non nj cameras tho 747920;1404744720;asciilifeform;about 10k usd (for a 'brand name' unit) 747921;1404744728;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: sure. 'minox.' 747922;1404744765;asciilifeform;when i first heard of njd, i drew up a recipe for a purely chemical audio recorder. just for shits & giggles. 747923;1404744772;asciilifeform;i'm certain other people have thought of this. 747924;1404744781;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00079558 = 41.5293 BTC [-] {2} 747925;1404744894;asciilifeform;you can shield a semiconductor-based gizmo from njd - faraday cage - but then it will turn up on ordinary metal detector. and won't transmit (you'll have to fetch the bug like your ancestors used to) 747926;1404744925;mircea_popescu;spook world problems 747927;1404744940;asciilifeform;lol 747928;1404744941;indiancandy1;i got my nipples peirced evvery time im in a airport 747929;1404744944;indiancandy1;the metal detectors 747930;1404744946;indiancandy1;go off 747931;1404744956;indiancandy1;story of my life 747932;1404744963;mircea_popescu;are they big piercings ? 747933;1404744986;indiancandy1;the normal peircing 747934;1404745001;indiancandy1;happened at gatwick airport 747935;1404745005;mircea_popescu;so what do you do ? 747936;1404745010;chetty;best reason I ever heard for not getting peircings 747937;1404745015;pankkake;I thought metal detectors didn't ring on that 747938;1404745038;asciilifeform;pankkake: depends what the knobs are turned to 747939;1404745043;indiancandy1;i tell them sorry sir but i have my nipples peirced 747940;1404745050;pankkake;I suppose they were turned on "female" ;) 747941;1404745056;indiancandy1;im sure they can see them on xray 747942;1404745072;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 so what do they do ? 747943;1404745097;indiancandy1;nothing i mean some of them are like all smiley and gigly about the whole thing 747944;1404745115;mircea_popescu;best cover ever for explosive tit implants : 747945;1404745120;mircea_popescu;also pierce the nipples. 747946;1404745142;indiancandy1;this is something the jihad havent looked into 747947;1404745159;*;asciilifeform wondered for many years what american reaction to the inevitable 'uterus bomb' will be. 747948;1404745212;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 you know angelina jolie had all her tit sucked out 747949;1404745217;mircea_popescu;and replaced with an airbag ? 747950;1404745226;mircea_popescu;supposedly it's healthier. 747951;1404745240;indiancandy1;she thought she was prone to cancer as her mother passed from it 747952;1404745247;mircea_popescu;yeah. 747953;1404745248;indiancandy1;she took paranoia to a whole new level 747954;1404745255;asciilifeform;airbag? the automotive kind, with detonator? 747955;1404745263;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol who's to know ? 747956;1404745263;chetty;ouch 747957;1404745276;mircea_popescu;but anyway, suicide bomber girl may become a thing. 747958;1404745285;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's long been a thing. 747959;1404745289;indiancandy1;yes 747960;1404745290;mircea_popescu;DD is like over a quart together, plenty of space 747961;1404745292;chetty;hey do they do that for guys that have testicular cancer? 747962;1404745294;asciilifeform;in russia in particular 747963;1404745296;ThickAsThieves;just when you lean to her bosom for comfort, bam! 747964;1404745300;indiancandy1;i thought so to i think in afghan its pretty popular 747965;1404745301;asciilifeform;but afaik no implants - yet 747966;1404745301;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a the chechens did it ? 747967;1404745319;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you know the angola rabbit sex joke ? 747968;1404745324;ThickAsThieves;nope 747969;1404745327;pankkake;why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself? 747970;1404745327;indiancandy1;sillicone implants are horrendous 747971;1404745337;ThickAsThieves;yes they make fake testicles, i'm pretty sure 747972;1404745341;mircea_popescu;angola rabbit goes to forest brothel, tells them he wants to fuck a boa cosntrictor whore. 747973;1404745346;pankkake;anyway, there was a "explosive butt plug" thing but it was a hoax 747974;1404745350;mircea_popescu;"but little rabbit... they EAT rabbits!" 747975;1404745354;mircea_popescu;little furry shit dun care. 747976;1404745359;indiancandy1;omg explosive but plug 747977;1404745367;mircea_popescu;so they take it to a boa constrictor whore, which... swallows him. 747978;1404745388;mircea_popescu;except... angola rabbit. bucnha fuzz, it doesn't sit well with the great snake. so after a while boa spits the rabbit out, 747979;1404745394;mircea_popescu;sends him flying a quarter mile. 747980;1404745406;mircea_popescu;rabbit picks himself up and struttingly "boy, what a blowjob" 747981;1404745413;ThickAsThieves;lol 747982;1404745414;indiancandy1;ahahaha 747983;1404745416;davout;mircea_popescu: "but anyway, suicide bomber girl may become a thing." <<< not sure martyrdom appeals to women the same it does to men... 747984;1404745429;mircea_popescu;davout they get 40 virginz too no ? 747985;1404745437;asciilifeform;davout: tell this to the chechen chicks 747986;1404745437;pankkake;does it have to be an angola rabbit? 747987;1404745439;ThickAsThieves;40 pairs of shoes 747988;1404745443;indiancandy1;well i heard that in the quran it says something about killing for god 747989;1404745445;chetty;I think they get to be amn 747990;1404745447;nubbins`;40 man-babies to feed and clothe 747991;1404745447;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ahhh 747992;1404745451;asciilifeform;davout: usually they're simply avenging a husband or son 747993;1404745451;davout;ThickAsThieves: you have a point 747994;1404745452;chetty;s/man 747995;1404745456;mircea_popescu;omfg nubbins` is evil. 747996;1404745459;indiancandy1;like human sacrifice brings you closer to allah 747997;1404745474;mircea_popescu;<pankkake> why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself? << back pain ? 747998;1404745483;indiancandy1;mp good point there 747999;1404745490;indiancandy1;not thst mine are humoungoes 748000;1404745499;mircea_popescu;i've had chicks with nice tits go "plz kill me" after a night o clubbin' in high heels. 748001;1404745503;ThickAsThieves;;;google Double D Suicide 748002;1404745504;gribble;Ed Edd n Eddy: Double D's Suicide (Original 11/27/2011) - YouTube: ; Army Suicides Doubled Last Month From June's Total - Huffington Post: ; Suicide rates doubled for children age 5-14 over past 20 years ...: ; Neil Gaiman at Keplers - "Other People" - YouTube: ; Other People by Neil Gaiman — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs ...: 748037;1404745935;asciilifeform;if i recall, there is no proof, for example, that the ubiquitous 'iron maiden' was used even on one occasion. 748038;1404745961;mircea_popescu;what would the proof be like ? 748039;1404745972;nubbins`;^ first link contains full story 748040;1404745987;mircea_popescu;here's the thing : you presume rational approach on the part of the users. 748041;1404745997;mircea_popescu;rational people probably wouldn't have had these things anyway 748042;1404746005;asciilifeform;some record, e.g. 'herr schmuckison refused to confess, was strapped in on the year of our lord xxxx, crunched nicely...' 748043;1404746007;mircea_popescu;so it's likely they were used. not because of anything to do with the victims 748044;1404746021;mircea_popescu;but because at a time before medical encyclopedias, some people still wanted to see guts. 748045;1404746034;asciilifeform;people still wanna see guts 748046;1404746043;nubbins`;but now we have the internet 748047;1404746044;asciilifeform;why 'youtube' exists 748048;1404746047;mircea_popescu;exactly. 748049;1404746055;nubbins`;man, i saw a photo of a human hand without skin the other day 748050;1404746057;nubbins`;fucking gross 748051;1404746061;indiancandy1;ewww 748052;1404746072;nubbins`;yeah 748053;1404746072;asciilifeform;anyone else aficionado of the 15th-17th c. 'anatomical porn' ? 748054;1404746088;indiancandy1;i stoped eating meat because i saw a goat being slaughtered and skinned alive 748055;1404746100;chetty;http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com.ar/2014/07/spain-issues-retroactive-003-tax-on.html#OHORcBLjip6xtjCj.99 748056;1404746100;assbot;Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Spain Issues Retroactive 0.03% Tax on Bank Deposits to "Boost Economic Growth and Job Creation" 748057;1404746103;asciilifeform;for a while, even to some extent into the 19th c., it was SOP to present porn and anatomical exposition as a combo 748058;1404746126;asciilifeform;e.g. gravures of a hot chick, seductive on a posh turkish bed, but her uterus is exposed 748059;1404746135;asciilifeform;volumes of these were printed 748060;1404746161;mircea_popescu;afaik all the rage in manga now is to show the insides as well 748061;1404746217;asciilifeform;chetty: spain, best friend of btc. 748062;1404746247;chetty;:) 748063;1404746261;asciilifeform;with enemies like this - who needs friends... 748064;1404746312;davout;asciilifeform: spain is gay compared to what cyprus did 748065;1404746338;asciilifeform;matter of degree. and now that the knob's been turned from '0', it can go - wherever. 748066;1404746349;chetty;ECB telling banks to stay out of btc is nice too 748067;1404746400;indiancandy1;Millions of people on the streets for the Tour de France. Why? They've been there for hours, & the entire race passed them in under a minute. And it's raining 748068;1404746412;davout;asciilifeform: no, because what spain is essentially doing is simply a tax on the interest collected 748069;1404746422;davout;has nothing to do with a haircut 748070;1404746464;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 well maybe they're there with their friends. 748071;1404746550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52259 @ 0.00079482 = 41.5365 BTC [-] {4} 748072;1404746660;indiancandy1;mp maybe 748073;1404746715;nubbins`;hey, people climb a ton of steps for 10 seconds in the crown of the statue of liberty 748074;1404746732;indiancandy1;good point 748075;1404746853;pankkake;they want the free saucissons 748076;1404746925;davout;pankkake: http://www.cochonouetvous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bob-cochonou-tourdefrance.jpg 748077;1404746930;*;mircea_popescu went to istanbul, couldn't be bothered to climb galata tower. too many tourists, what is this regimented bs. 748078;1404746955;nubbins`;climbing tall things is nice, doing it in a queue isn't 748079;1404746965;mircea_popescu;exactly. 748080;1404747014;mircea_popescu;but this IS a major problem of overpopulation. i doubt the louvre will ever again be visitable for instance. 748081;1404747143;nubbins`;problem of affordable long-distance travel as well 748082;1404747144;indiancandy1;mp did you check out the turkish belly dancers 748083;1404747175;mircea_popescu;yea. 748084;1404747193;nubbins`;machu picchu suffers as much as the cn tower ;D 748085;1404747198;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 belly dancing is like this requisite female skill. no idea how one goes through life without 748086;1404747201;mircea_popescu;or why would she. 748087;1404747320;indiancandy1;i want to go to lessons i saw a video of shakira on youtbe pretty impressive and it looks so hot rather than that twrking mallarky 748088;1404747404;mircea_popescu;mallarky lol 748089;1404747500;indiancandy1;i can twerk 748090;1404747502;indiancandy1;:P 748091;1404747599;davout;"i can twerk" not so far of "i can't work" :D 748092;1404747602;mircea_popescu;i thought the only distinction of twerking was that anyone can do it. 748093;1404747611;mircea_popescu;lol davidlatapie 748094;1404747613;mircea_popescu;oops 748095;1404747724;thestringpuller;;;gettrust indiancandy1 748096;1404747725;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user indiancandy1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=indiancandy1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=indiancandy1 | Rated since: never 748097;1404747729;pankkake;!up indiancandy1 748098;1404747742;thestringpuller;indiancandy1: you aren't in WoT yet? 748099;1404747751;indiancandy1;no 748100;1404747753;indiancandy1;im trying 748101;1404747756;indiancandy1;il do it now 748102;1404747758;indiancandy1;i got my 748103;1404747763;thestringpuller;do or do not there is no try 748104;1404747767;indiancandy1;public key 748105;1404747768;thestringpuller;I kid 748106;1404747771;indiancandy1;its just i cant do it myelf 748107;1404747775;indiancandy1;i get someone else to 748108;1404747787;thestringpuller;that doesn't seem very safe 748109;1404747795;thestringpuller;what if that someone else steals your private key an impersonates you 748110;1404747819;indiancandy1;well there is no fun or gain in impersonating me so 748111;1404747824;indiancandy1;im not that exiting 748112;1404747825;mircea_popescu;proof of twerk ? 748113;1404747831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.03575737 = 0.5721 BTC [+] {3} 748114;1404747834;indiancandy1;get whatsap 748115;1404747836;indiancandy1;:P 748116;1404747841;indiancandy1;il send u videos 748117;1404747844;mircea_popescu;no i was talking to him 748118;1404747858;mircea_popescu;if someone impersonates you it'll just be resolved wiht PoT 748119;1404747882;mircea_popescu;anyway, im off. later all! 748120;1404747892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.0355365 = 1.3149 BTC [-] {8} 748121;1404747930;thestringpuller;take care mp 748122;1404747971;indiancandy1;ba bye 748123;1404747987;thestringpuller;lol malarky 748124;1404747991;thestringpuller;white people words 748125;1404747991;indiancandy1;? 748126;1404747994;indiancandy1;im not white 748127;1404747995;indiancandy1;ahah 748128;1404747997;thestringpuller;i kno 748129;1404747998;indiancandy1;well half 748130;1404748009;indiancandy1;if you consider greek as white i do but people in england dont 748131;1404748039;thestringpuller;i just always think of dave chappelle imitating a white person using the word "malarky" when I hear it 748132;1404748046;thestringpuller;"Cut the malarky!" 748133;1404748080;indiancandy1;may i ask what nationality you are sir 748134;1404748181;thestringpuller;I'm on team light skinned (black) 748135;1404748215;indiancandy1;what country you from? 748136;1404748226;indiancandy1;i got black in me aswel 748137;1404748235;indiancandy1;from tanzania my great granma was african 748138;1404748241;indiancandy1;im a cocktail 748139;1404748246;indiancandy1;greek india tanzania 748140;1404748255;thestringpuller;oh I'm from US 748141;1404748269;indiancandy1;ohhh no exotic carribean islands 748142;1404748272;indiancandy1;damnz 748143;1404748273;kakobrekla;she said cock-tail. 748144;1404748292;indiancandy1;gyal cock up ur batty and wine 748145;1404748365;indiancandy1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJIIHgy1E0 748146;1404748365;assbot;Charly Black & J Capri - Whine & Kotch (Official Music Video) - YouTube 748147;1404748441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01758545 = 0.9672 BTC [+] {3} 748148;1404748466;thestringpuller;haha what made you think i was from the carribean? 748149;1404748477;thestringpuller;everyone asks that (since I have dreadlocks) 748150;1404748486;thestringpuller;"Are you jamaican?" 748151;1404748502;kakobrekla;"No, just dont wash ma hair." 748152;1404748515;thestringpuller;More like: "No I'm from fucking Connecticut. And no, I don't have any "herb" for sale" 748153;1404748650;thestringpuller;indiancandy1: do you have a british accent? 748154;1404748685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01759957 = 0.968 BTC [+] {2} 748155;1404748751;danielpbarron;thestringpuller, you're in ct? 748156;1404748797;thestringpuller;danielpbarron: i was born there 748157;1404748801;thestringpuller;a long time ago 748158;1404748804;thestringpuller;in the late 80's 748159;1404748807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75136014 BTC to 11`714 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 748160;1404748817;davout;thestringpuller: wai u dreadlox if u not herb 4 sale? 748161;1404748825;ThickAsThieves;great question 748162;1404748837;davout;"i moved up to cocaine", ah ok 748163;1404748853;ThickAsThieves;he deals cookies 748164;1404748886;davout;i have not received any so far, SO ALLOW ME TO DOUBT HERE :D 748165;1404748948;kakobrekla; he deals cookies < o yeah cookie biz, that explains it 748166;1404749028;davout;"cookies" -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4-TsaNENo 748167;1404749028;assbot;Family Guy - Cookie Monster (HD) - YouTube 748168;1404749047;kakobrekla;also try lollipops, kids love those. something like 70% thc and 30% cbd. 748169;1404749050;ThickAsThieves;hmm BTC drama feels kinda low 748170;1404749055;ThickAsThieves;need more fuel 748171;1404749059;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 748172;1404749060;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.08, Best ask: 618.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.92000, Last trade: 616.0, 24 hour volume: 5145.64589832, 24 hour low: 616.0, 24 hour high: 637.8, 24 hour vwap: 626.170851195 748173;1404749107;mike_c;TaT, wtf? i thought we were about to rally? 748174;1404749129;kakobrekla;hi guise, whai is the price so low 748175;1404749130;ThickAsThieves;you missed it 748176;1404749132;indiancandy1;i have a london accent sorry was in the shower 748177;1404749135;mike_c;hehe 748178;1404749141;indiancandy1;there isnt a british accent 748179;1404749141;nubbins`;http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/DITTO-13 748180;1404749143;assbot;The Ditto 13" Auto Sheet Film Feeder 748181;1404749154;nubbins`;plastic comb, regular $189, on sale for $59 748182;1404749167;indiancandy1;evry city in england has a different accent all the scottish sound the same and so do the irish 748183;1404749190;indiancandy1;my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh 748184;1404749219;mike_c;i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect. 748185;1404749245;mike_c;30k btc sells in a day and the market don't care. 748186;1404749260;ThickAsThieves;he did have an affect 748187;1404749270;ThickAsThieves;it was priced in already by the time he gave his performance 748188;1404749285;mike_c;pics or gtfo 748189;1404749298;indiancandy1;no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but 748190;1404749300;ThickAsThieves;well the price went up right til he had his press 748191;1404749313;ThickAsThieves;buy on rumor, sell on news, right? 748192;1404749324;mike_c;or no news as the case may be. 748193;1404749328;ThickAsThieves;right 748194;1404749357;ThickAsThieves;i'm not quite sure what the price is doing next tho, so i'm just bagholding 748195;1404749371;mike_c;bagholding what though? btc or fiat? 748196;1404749375;ThickAsThieves;btc 748197;1404749418;ThickAsThieves;mostly, i do still have some in stocks 748198;1404749424;indiancandy1;ooo la la 748199;1404749428;indiancandy1;coca cola dealers 748200;1404749453;ThickAsThieves;this week everyone is hopping on the GS-NFLX-Buy is a scam bandwagon 748201;1404749454;ThickAsThieves;so o 748202;1404749458;ThickAsThieves;i'm happy there 748203;1404749475;mike_c;i don't like playing with stock of companies that don't make money. 748204;1404749482;mike_c;feels like forum investing :) 748205;1404749487;ThickAsThieves;shorted it 748206;1404749505;mike_c;yeah, but it's all hype-wagon. who knows which way the wind will blow. 748207;1404749520;ThickAsThieves;such is life 748208;1404749521;mike_c;GS pushes you one way, JPM another 748209;1404749533;ThickAsThieves;we all speculate 748210;1404749543;ThickAsThieves;just a matter of frequency and volume 748211;1404749602;mike_c;not arguing that. i certainly have some fliers in my portfolio. that's just not my particular cup of speculation. 748212;1404749620;ThickAsThieves;my tastes change 748213;1404749629;ThickAsThieves;itll be something else next year 748214;1404749797;ThickAsThieves;!up indiancandy1 748215;1404751979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00079402 = 11.95 BTC [-] 748216;1404752697;bitcoinpete;priceless! roger ver is $160k in the hole and counting… for dpr's legal fees 748217;1404752704;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/485478065959493632 748218;1404752706;assbot;Ill give $10 to /Free_Ross for each RT. If guilty, hes a hero. If innocent, he needs help. http://t.co/XwhqrN06UT http://t.co/Oau4dkFvdV 748219;1404752717;bitcoinpete;16.8k retweets later... 748220;1404752732;ThickAsThieves;I was an early retweeter 748221;1404752745;ThickAsThieves;i care enough about Ross to use Ver's money 748222;1404752806;ThickAsThieves;BitBet needed Ver Scams DPR 748223;1404752826;ThickAsThieves;Roger Ver finds some way to not truly pay the $165k to Ross' defense 748224;1404752880;mike_c;there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets. 748225;1404753322;bitcoinpete;that's tempting 748226;1404753376;bitcoinpete;;;rate thenewdeal 1 bitbetbroker 748227;1404753378;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user thenewdeal has been recorded. 748228;1404753580;ThickAsThieves;well he already said more tweets wont increase what he gives 748229;1404753639;mike_c;what did he cap it at? 748230;1404753703;ThickAsThieves;approx 160 748231;1404753710;ThickAsThieves;he didnt make it clear 748232;1404753932;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00079277 = 36.7845 BTC [-] {3} 748233;1404753939;ThickAsThieves;Ver has a ballsy Twitter picture 748234;1404753950;ThickAsThieves;him, voorhees, shrem, and is that yifu? 748235;1404753985;ThickAsThieves;https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2929579196/89d8e53618c0cfb96b7be873606ddb16.jpeg 748236;1404753992;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.03500647 = 1.1902 BTC [-] {3} 748237;1404754053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.03451 = 0.8282 BTC [-] {2} 748238;1404755308;ThickAsThieves;http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000289713 748239;1404755309;assbot;Draper's long-term bet on bitcoin - CNBC 748240;1404755321;ThickAsThieves;Draper talking on how large buyers might acquire bitcoin 748241;1404755331;ThickAsThieves;nothing too earthshaking 748242;1404755578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.0133899 = 0.5624 BTC [-] 748243;1404755632;ThickAsThieves;mike_c is the seeds subdomain set up properly for atc? 748244;1404755651;mike_c;well, my end is. i don't think we ever got the dns right 748245;1404755710;ThickAsThieves;so what i did didnt work? 748246;1404755743;ThickAsThieves;i think i set it up per your instruction, just not sure if it was tested afterward 748247;1404755808;mike_c;let's try again :) let me get a picture. 748248;1404755869;ThickAsThieves;you want a ss of the current setup? 748249;1404755875;mike_c;yeah 748250;1404755898;ThickAsThieves;k 748251;1404755980;benkay; the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem. // i was thinking about the marginal cost of a second wife and five more kids this weekend 748252;1404756040;mike_c;http://i.imgur.com/JfNhEYq.png 748253;1404756055;ThickAsThieves;http://i.imgur.com/mV1ljPj.jpg 748254;1404756066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.01689768 = 0.659 BTC [-] {4} 748255;1404756101;mike_c;ok. so here's what we did wrong. 748256;1404756132;mike_c;need: 1) "seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org" 748257;1404756146;mike_c;2) "ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org A 54.197.241.190 748258;1404756152;mike_c;and that should do it 748259;1404756155;ThickAsThieves;k 748260;1404756433;ThickAsThieves;so, translated into my interface, this? http://i.imgur.com/fFH0Ze1.jpg 748261;1404756467;mike_c;looks right 748262;1404756473;ThickAsThieves;it's applied 748263;1404756497;thestringpuller;;;seen BingoBoingo 748264;1404756497;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 51 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself 748265;1404756619;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: there's a bug on therealaltcoin.org. the Casino link is pointing to satoshijack ;) 748266;1404756655;punkman;ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org should probably be under Advanced Options > Nameserver Registration 748267;1404756835;ThickAsThieves;mike_c it shall be fixed in grand fashion 748268;1404756845;mike_c;excellent 748269;1404756846;ThickAsThieves;i installed wordpress so i can flesh the site out more 748270;1404756857;ThickAsThieves;so i'll do a whole post on WoL 748271;1404757312;pankkake;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/fr/actualites-bitcoin/premiere-arrestation-en-france-liee-au-bitcoin/2014/07/07 <= they say it's bestxchanger.com 748272;1404757315;assbot;Arrestation franaise lie au bitcoin - CryptoCoinsNews 748273;1404757340;asciilifeform;BesTXchanger ? 748274;1404757344;asciilifeform;expertSexchange. 748275;1404757713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 264 @ 0.00403323 = 1.0648 BTC [+] {2} 748276;1404758141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00079265 = 15.1 BTC [-] 748277;1404758323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03829246 = 1.3402 BTC [-] {4} 748278;1404758558;pankkake;http://news.sky.com/story/1296508/global-jihad-could-be-funded-with-bitcoin 748279;1404758559;assbot;Global Jihad 'Could Be Funded With Bitcoin' 748280;1404759619;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/07/it-aint-cheatin-it-stampedin/ 748281;1404759779;bitcoinpete;http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3169 748282;1404759795;bitcoinpete;^this dude should be on the b-a blogs 748283;1404760101;ThickAsThieves;bitcoinpete, i admire your jewfro 748284;1404760126;ThickAsThieves;lol i said that before i read it 748285;1404760135;fluffypony;lol! 748286;1404760151;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: all he needs now is a pedo moustache and the look is complete? 748287;1404760182;ThickAsThieves;nah hipster weird al is about the edge of cool 748288;1404760198;ThickAsThieves;dont wanna overdo it 748289;1404760198;fluffypony;lol 748290;1404760518;pankkake;http://www.dailydot.com/business/moolah-dogecoin-alex-green/ 748291;1404760518;assbot;The death of Dogecoin 748292;1404760603;kakobrekla;>Other cryptocurrencies don’t come with a built-in joke. 748293;1404760615;kakobrekla;this has not yet been proven. 748294;1404760627;punkman;at least half of them do 748295;1404760908;fluffypony;knock knock. who's there? Auroracoin. Auroracoin who? Auroracoin get fucked, that whore! 748296;1404760944;punkman;"Of course, there's always the chance Dogecoin could rally." 748297;1404761015;punkman;http://blog.moolah.io/2014/07/07/i-wouldnt-call-this-journalism/ 748298;1404761016;assbot;I wouldn’t call this journalism. | Moolah 748299;1404761028;punkman;" I do not intend to be working in the sector anymore; because of the constant co-ordinated attacks on myself." 748300;1404761030;punkman;great success 748301;1404761312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00079199 = 35.6 BTC [-] {3} 748302;1404761556;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.0007943 = 14.0194 BTC [+] 748303;1404761556;nubbins`;fluffypony you made those shirts look pretty sharp 748304;1404761846;fluffypony;nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you! 748305;1404762487;FabianB;$traded 748306;1404762487;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 748307;1404762670;FabianB;lol https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad 748308;1404762671;assbot;Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter 748309;1404763791;fluffypony;http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/2018.gif 748310;1404764269;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: irdial << it's the numbers stations fellow! 748311;1404764275;asciilifeform;great blog. 748312;1404764603;fluffypony;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad 748313;1404764604;assbot;Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter 748314;1404764611;fluffypony;oh FabianB already posted it 748315;1404764623;fluffypony;this dude should write IPOs 748316;1404764963;FabianB;lo, ya 748317;1404765148;mthreat;!up kermit 748318;1404765332;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-07/could-be-last-straw-90-china-loan-guarantors-bankrupt 748319;1404765332;assbot;"This Could Be The Last Straw" 90% Of China Loan Guarantors Bankrupt | Zero Hedge 748320;1404765523;asciilifeform;interesting bus film 748321;1404765582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00079548 = 32.376 BTC [+] {5} 748322;1404765689;asciilifeform;if china gov. doesn't answer with a thousand dead uighurs, perhaps the rulers have already lost, to use their traditional term, 'mandate of heaven.' 748323;1404765773;asciilifeform;(they've declared that the bus was torched by a generic pyro) 748324;1404765933;asciilifeform;;;google china bus fire 748325;1404765934;gribble;Chinese arsonist sets bus on fire, critically injuring 33 people | Mail ...: ; China police blame arson in bus fire that hurt 32 - Yahoo News: ; (1 more message) 748326;1404765941;asciilifeform;^ apparently a common event there. 748327;1404766688;mircea_popescu;ahhh yay. 748328;1404766700;mircea_popescu;all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux. 748329;1404766711;mircea_popescu;who's got all the fresh squeezed orange juice he could ever drink ? 748330;1404766796;mircea_popescu;!up Zoop_ 748331;1404766810;mircea_popescu; "No, just dont wash ma hair." << i lolled. 748332;1404766821;Zoop_;ty 748333;1404766982;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust Zoop_ 748334;1404766982;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Zoop_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Zoop_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Zoop_ | Rated since: never 748335;1404767061;mircea_popescu; my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ? 748336;1404767110;mircea_popescu; no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but << davout's the nigerian. and we got some somalis. 748337;1404767280;chetty; all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux.// the mystery is that people around here still drink tang and stuff 748338;1404767290;mircea_popescu; i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect. << why ? 748339;1404767290;mircea_popescu;he's not in here, why would he have an effect ? 748340;1404767290;mircea_popescu;;;later tell indiancandy1 my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ? 748341;1404767291;gribble;The operation succeeded. 748342;1404767321;mircea_popescu;chetty ikr? one day i order orange juice in this pretty upscale place, get tang. i was saddened. 748343;1404767349;mike_c;i feel like we are back in a zone where BTC price is below its current value. i thought the auction might pop the inertia bubble on the price. 748344;1404767396;mircea_popescu;i felt like me saying so may pop the inertia on the price. which it did, a 25% ish. 748345;1404767397;chetty;mike_c give it a few days 748346;1404767405;mircea_popescu;but yes, otherwise, what she said. 748347;1404767416;mircea_popescu;the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience. 748348;1404767424;mike_c;heh. it can try. 748349;1404767439;mircea_popescu;yep. like catfish, it can try, which is what makes the sport fun. 748350;1404767463;mircea_popescu;o hey d. how's ghana ? 748351;1404767504;chetty;how do you know when a game will start on waroflife? 748352;1404767506;davout;mircea_popescu: "the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience." <<< lol, make a bitbet 748353;1404767526;mircea_popescu;davout how would you ever verify it. 748354;1404767552;davout;depends how it's worded i guess :D 748355;1404767591;davout;bet title: "market becomes rational before mircea popescu loses patience" 748356;1404767609;mircea_popescu;bet text "this bet to be resolved eventually". 748357;1404767614;davout;bet description: "market goes >= x before y" 748358;1404767633;davout;bitbet mod comment: "disregard this, bet resolves to yes if netherlands wins wc" 748359;1404767639;mircea_popescu;lol 748360;1404767666;mircea_popescu;if netherlands wins wc ima have all the camhos bubbling. 748361;1404767692;davout;i can't wait for someone to manage to troll bitbet by passing some self-referring bet 748362;1404767703;davout;"bet resolves to yes if it resolves to yes" 748363;1404767753;davout;"bet resolves to yes if the product of bets that have resolved to no before the bitbet mod is aged three times the day of month the bet has been accepted..." 748364;1404767759;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete im not sure of the reasoning on the "if guilty he's a hero". seems to me the guy's fucktarded either way, but hey. 748365;1404767760;gribble;The operation succeeded. 748366;1404767774;mircea_popescu;mebbe jesus homie knows something i don't. somehow. through divine headfucking. 748367;1404767823;mircea_popescu; there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets. << this being obviously the only way ver gets 16k rts. 748368;1404767863;mircea_popescu;benkay this, of course, is covered on trilema. 748369;1404767868;mircea_popescu;;;google doua fete, argumentul economic 748370;1404767869;gribble;La fête musulmane du sacrifice | Walid Nassef - Huffington Post: ; Martie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; APEL CATRE SPECIALISTI: Ce parere aveti despre medicamentul ...: http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3169 << i think he was my biggest twitter fan, back before i killed andreas. 748381;1404767990;assbot;BLOGDIAL » Blog Archive » Guardian warmongering over Pakistan encryption ban 748382;1404768008;Zoop_;davout report from GAO on virtual currencies 748383;1404768016;Zoop_;regulation stuff 748384;1404768036;mircea_popescu;Zoop_ this isn't news tho is it. 748385;1404768056;davout;Zoop_: yeah, that's on page 1, i mean "what is this?", as in, why is it important? 748386;1404768068;mircea_popescu;"which is to include a) a plain statement of the SECs lack of jurisdiction with regards to Bitcoin, thus alligning itself with the position of the US FED and the US GAO ;" 748387;1404768078;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/ 748388;1404768082;assbot;Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 748389;1404768082;mircea_popescu;that'd be february. 748390;1404768107;Zoop_;well, the news is: the report is out and GAO wants CFPB to focus on virtual currencies 748391;1404768149;mircea_popescu;fluffypony did the islandese people get rescued by max scamkeiser yet ? 748392;1404768211;asciilifeform;chetty: wait for the false-flag attack 'finance with bitcoin!111!' 748393;1404768222;davout;meh 748394;1404768233;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i dunno about you, but i personally am looking forward. 748395;1404768241;mircea_popescu;once they do that, the real fun starts. 748396;1404768247;*;asciilifeform just wonders why it's taking so long 748397;1404768254;chetty;asciilifeform, any day now 748398;1404768276;mircea_popescu;perhaps because "the real fun starts" means things like "rape a US agent, post the film, get 100 BTC" 748399;1404768300;mircea_popescu;powerful people with nothing to lose are how one gets fucked up. 748400;1404768368;asciilifeform;'hedsoff.com' 748401;1404768394;asciilifeform;(nothing interesting there in life. it was a site in an old sf story, about more or less this) 748402;1404768560;mircea_popescu; nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you! << he does make pretty kickass shirt that's for sure. 748403;1404768597;mircea_popescu;chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol 748404;1404768638;chetty; chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol// doom sells 748405;1404768683;mircea_popescu;"this could be the last zerohedge article" 748406;1404768754;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 426 @ 0.00217065 = 0.9247 BTC [+] 748407;1404768816;mircea_popescu;anyway, the zh article is nonsensical, in that in no functional economy can 90% of guarantors crack. it's simply not possible, like a cancer that takes over 90% of a body's cells. 748408;1404768828;mircea_popescu;once 10%ish is reached the system collapses, it's not possible to cross over 50% in any case. 748409;1404768833;mircea_popescu;so, someone;'s measuring something wrongly. 748410;1404768877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 410 @ 0.0041 = 1.681 BTC [+] {2} 748411;1404768942;asciilifeform;prediction (not bitbet because... 'badBet') - sr coin, from derper's pocket, stolen; ends in in goatfuckistan, finances [insert your favourite american landmark] falseflag demolition... 748412;1404768963;asciilifeform;('stolen' naturally) 748413;1404769009;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2014#741109 748414;1404769010;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 748415;1404769051;mircea_popescu;i'll take even odds against that prop. 748416;1404769061;asciilifeform;perhaps this is so elementary as to be uninteresting. 748417;1404769121;asciilifeform;or - for added realism - it'll be the 200k btc dpr is coughing up on the impaler machine, rather than derper's coin. 748418;1404769173;mircea_popescu;mexican standoff. the usg doesn't mind idiot eu bureaucrats fucking themselves over, but otherwise, it won't really shoot first. 748419;1404769186;mircea_popescu;for the most part, neither are we, there's no profit to be had, and even less lols. 748420;1404769203;asciilifeform;there's always some idiot with 'initiative' 748421;1404769211;asciilifeform;or a hundred. 748422;1404769254;chetty;http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/LIRR-Strike-Deadline-July-Long-Island-Rail-Road-MTA-265568721.html 748423;1404769254;assbot;Long Island Rail Road Strike Deadline Looms, Thousands of Commuters Affected | NBC New York 748424;1404769287;chetty;I think a lot of wall street rides those trains 748425;1404769289;mircea_popescu;notrly. 748426;1404769469;danielpbarron;ticker 748427;1404769511;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 748428;1404769513;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 619.31, Best ask: 621.6, Bid-ask spread: 2.29000, Last trade: 621.6, 24 hour volume: 7031.17995532, 24 hour low: 612.9, 24 hour high: 636.0, 24 hour vwap: 623.785444584 748429;1404769560;danielpbarron;!up andreas 748430;1404770094;mircea_popescu;"What the commentators didn't mentionbecause hardly anyone noticedis that buying that NASCAR sponsorship wasn't really a team effort. Rather, it was disproportionately the work of one man, Alex Green, founder and director of Moolah, the preeminent company that exchanges dogecoins for other kinds of currency." 748431;1404770097;mircea_popescu;yeah, well... 748432;1404770218;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35044 @ 0.00079254 = 27.7738 BTC [-] 748433;1404770279;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00079254 = 5.7855 BTC [-] 748434;1404770466;mircea_popescu;"Like before, Greene appeared to" / "Green got more than just customers" can't even get the name right. what research and shit. 748435;1404770535;mircea_popescu;"In February, he saw a fundraiser called Cancer for College would get Will Ferrell to shout out anybody who donated $1,500. Green said he didn't realize he was typing in British pounds, rather than dollars, and so he accidentally gave $2,466 of his own money. To date, just over 2,500 people have viewed the nine-second video of Ferrell somberly thanking r/dogecoin." 748436;1404770547;mircea_popescu;o look at that, #b-a camgirls > will ferrell. 748437;1404770741;ThickAsThieves;<+Zoop_> it's from may, but only went public a few hours ago /// pff i linked this days ago 748438;1404770814;mircea_popescu;guy's new. 748439;1404770859;*;ThickAsThieves goes back to lurking. 748440;1404770984;*;mircea_popescu goes to mike's site to check on fmpif, finds a hole! 748441;1404771000;mircea_popescu;enky whay is your strat so broken! 748442;1404771674;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/ah-sweet-sweet-delicious-communitard-tears/#comment-102321 i r win so much interwebs... 748443;1404771675;assbot;Ah sweet sweet delicious communitard tears pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 748444;1404772070;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/mQoxU7h.jpg taking odds on whether that ever gets approved. 748445;1404772140;mircea_popescu;!up crypto_x_ 748446;1404772298;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 10,530. 748447;1404772302;mircea_popescu;pankkake ahahh wait, j c weidmann's aka is actualy a reference to story of o ? 748448;1404772309;mircea_popescu;help me rwanda. 748449;1404772421;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-floating-transaction-fees/ 748450;1404772421;assbot;Next Bitcoin Core Version to Include 'Smarter' Transaction Fees 748451;1404772448;ThickAsThieves;"Andresen cited needless complexities within bitcoin’s transaction fee code as the reason for the update. " 748452;1404772462;ThickAsThieves;yo dawg... 748453;1404772475;mircea_popescu;it ~was~ broked 748454;1404772545;ThickAsThieves;word 748455;1404772727;mircea_popescu;so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ? 748456;1404772867;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoinpete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/photo-23-1024x1024.jpg << check it out benkay, he's like 2 ahead of you. plus he has a jewfro. 748457;1404773136;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ? /// Usually just feel guilty it's not getting more attention 748458;1404773147;ThickAsThieves;like i owe it something 748459;1404773148;mircea_popescu;why guilty ? 748460;1404773157;ThickAsThieves;dunno, just tol 748461;1404773163;mircea_popescu;you do owe it something. vapid pointless publicity and assorted redditardation ain't it. 748462;1404773180;thestringpuller;all good things come with time 748463;1404773194;kakobrekla;or dont. 748464;1404773202;thestringpuller;:( 748465;1404773228;ThickAsThieves;well if it blows up, we did it for the lulz! 748466;1404773237;mircea_popescu;kako's had bad experiences with female orgasm in the past 748467;1404773242;mircea_popescu;back when he was still trying. 748468;1404773244;ThickAsThieves;if it grows up, we did it for the i-told-you-sos 748469;1404773266;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GXQD7R.txt ) 748470;1404773266;thestringpuller;!b 3 748471;1404773298;kakobrekla;you know that is not getting approved. 748472;1404773307;ThickAsThieves;lol 748473;1404773314;mircea_popescu;lmao 748474;1404773321;thestringpuller;:D 748475;1404773322;ThickAsThieves;maybe a good b-a slogan 748476;1404773327;mircea_popescu;"this is not getting approvt, son" 748477;1404773339;mircea_popescu;"it is disapprov't, son" 748478;1404773449;ThickAsThieves;mike_c was complaining about the price, what do you guys think it should be 748479;1404773451;mircea_popescu;so apparently the only way to get a toothbrush that has bristles instead of random plastic chunks is to buy brazil made stuff. 748480;1404773463;mircea_popescu;these fucktards and their "science" of "cool". NOT EVERYTHING IS A SNEAKER, YO! 748481;1404773481;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what diff does it make what the price is ? 748482;1404773499;ThickAsThieves;well, i wasnt trying to get all philosophical about it 748483;1404773530;ThickAsThieves;he noted he felt it was off 748484;1404773542;ThickAsThieves;wondered what "on" is 748485;1404773558;mircea_popescu;personaly i think it's fine 748486;1404773562;mircea_popescu;coupla hundred or w/e 748487;1404773573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46424 @ 0.00079254 = 36.7929 BTC [-] 748488;1404773588;ThickAsThieves;all buttcoins to you 748489;1404773605;mircea_popescu;hm ? 748490;1404773635;ThickAsThieves;it's all a lotta money to you 748491;1404773654;mircea_popescu;i regret ot inform you i do not follow! 748492;1404773708;ThickAsThieves;just commenting on saying 200, 600, whatevs! 748493;1404773727;bitstein;Just got this up: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/the-skeptics/ 748494;1404773727;assbot;The Skeptics | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute 748495;1404773745;mircea_popescu;;;calc 39 * 0.00225 * 630 748496;1404773746;gribble;55.2825 748497;1404773753;ThickAsThieves;eat 748498;1404773753;mircea_popescu;meh 748499;1404773758;ThickAsThieves;neat* 748500;1404773758;mircea_popescu;;;calc 39 * 0.00225 * 630 * 512 748501;1404773758;gribble;28304.64 748502;1404773776;mircea_popescu;is that right, total mkt cap is like 30k usd ? 748503;1404773814;ThickAsThieves;http://atc.blockr.io/ 748504;1404773818;ThickAsThieves;tells you 748505;1404773827;ThickAsThieves;44.583552 BTC 748506;1404773837;mircea_popescu;so myeah. 748507;1404773941;ThickAsThieves;only 38500btc to go before it's bigger than ripple! 748508;1404773971;kakobrekla;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BraRmxvIcAA4gmt.jpg:large 748509;1404773980;mircea_popescu;what was doge supposed to be, like 35k ? 748510;1404774011;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla coulda had a much better shirt 748511;1404774055;mircea_popescu;ftr, that's 20 x 120 = 2400 boxen. 748512;1404774203;kakobrekla;is that bfl or ? 748513;1404774289;mircea_popescu;http://114.80.142.99/wsrr2009/detail.aspx?id=455721436636&UID=166467&key=160e0ab132b5fc6acca122784d34a7f6&ProgNO=3 748514;1404774290;assbot;QINGDAO SITUATION AND THE COPPER MARKET OUTLOOKQINGDAO SITUATION LIKELY TO CONTINUE ONGOING CCFD UNWIND 748515;1404774299;mircea_popescu;if anyone's not following but curious about china news 748516;1404774403;kakobrekla;more like 3k boxen 748517;1404774421;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ot 748518;1404774428;mircea_popescu;it's not 25 long 748519;1404774443;kakobrekla;;;calc 8*12*15*2 748520;1404774444;gribble;2880 748521;1404774454;kakobrekla;if left and right are same size 748522;1404774469;kakobrekla;15 long 748523;1404774488;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40586 @ 0.00079023 = 32.0723 BTC [-] {5} 748524;1404774528;kakobrekla;8 devices per single rack, 12 single racks in a row 748525;1404774534;kakobrekla;15 columns 748526;1404774536;kakobrekla;times two 748527;1404774542;mircea_popescu;dude. there's 20 layers, each layer 10 on the base 6 tall on each side. 748528;1404774546;mircea_popescu;20 x 120 = 2400 748529;1404774650;ThickAsThieves;http://i.imgur.com/Djxi443.jpg 748530;1404774711;kakobrekla;depth is 15 or 16 748531;1404774715;mircea_popescu;ow fuck you'rer right its 16 748532;1404774723;mircea_popescu;;;calc 16 * 6 * 2 * 20 748533;1404774723;gribble;3840 748534;1404774732;kakobrekla;eh? 748535;1404774739;mircea_popescu;ahahaha ThickAsThieves nice 748536;1404774745;kakobrekla;;;calc 8*12*16*2 748537;1404774745;gribble;3072 748538;1404774746;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla 16 on each side, 6 tall, 20 of them 748539;1404774792;ThickAsThieves;help me understand something plz - if china doublespent or sold metals it didnt have, how is that bearish on the price of metals? 748540;1404774797;mircea_popescu;tho left side is only half wide (hence the 6 and the 4) 748541;1404774803;mircea_popescu;so no, moar like 748542;1404774809;mircea_popescu;;;calc 24 * 6 * 20 748543;1404774810;gribble;2880 748544;1404774839;kakobrekla;its not 20 of them 748545;1404774845;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves if panic grips the fx market and it unwinds, and if doubts as to value of metal as collateral unwinds metal pledged as colateral in stocks 748546;1404774856;mircea_popescu;this reduces demand for physical metal, and so increases spot supply 748547;1404774872;kakobrekla;15 748548;1404774913;ThickAsThieves;isnt people doublespending it rather bullish? 748549;1404774916;mircea_popescu;well this has been a fun game 748550;1404774921;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves how ? 748551;1404774931;ThickAsThieves;well the demand exceeded supply 748552;1404774937;ThickAsThieves;they sold shit that didnt exist 748553;1404774938;mircea_popescu;you're not following here. 748554;1404774945;mircea_popescu;suppose you have a number of fucks. 748555;1404774954;mircea_popescu;currently these fucks are only in demand for fucking with. 748556;1404774967;mircea_popescu;if tomorrow they are in the same demand for fucking with, but also in demand to make chef's salad, 748557;1404774970;mircea_popescu;they wil be more expensive. 748558;1404774976;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00079288 = 9.5542 BTC [+] 748559;1404774979;mircea_popescu;if next week someone gets aids from eating your fucks chefs salad 748560;1404774987;mircea_popescu;this will make fucks be less used for chefs salads 748561;1404774994;mircea_popescu;and thus they wil be cheaper again 748562;1404775017;ThickAsThieves;but the fuck is the funds and shit, not the metal, the fuck is the fucktards that fucked up 748563;1404775024;mircea_popescu;no, the fucks is the copper. 748564;1404775042;mircea_popescu;listen scarlet, copper is the only thing to fuck 748565;1404775049;mircea_popescu;because it's the only thing that lasts. 748566;1404775075;mircea_popescu;and also, fuck this avocado is delicious. 748567;1404775080;ThickAsThieves;lol 748568;1404775091;mircea_popescu;no im seriouse 748569;1404775100;ThickAsThieves;ok so why hasnt gold crashed 748570;1404775107;mircea_popescu;it has lol 748571;1404775111;mircea_popescu;1200 ? srsly ? 748572;1404775113;ThickAsThieves;they did this with gold right? 748573;1404775115;ThickAsThieves;in recent news 748574;1404775126;ThickAsThieves;and now it's just holding 748575;1404775142;mircea_popescu;o look, it's the sexy geekgirl. 748576;1404775162;ThickAsThieves;or youre saying the effects of this fuckery are already priced in 748577;1404775167;mircea_popescu;no dude. 748578;1404775647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00079696 = 19.3263 BTC [+] {2} 748579;1404775681;mircea_popescu;anyway. the renminbi was a stupid name anyway, i doubt they seriously intended for it to survive 748580;1404775687;mircea_popescu;and it doesn't look like it'll make it past 2015 748581;1404775826;mircea_popescu;!up sexysaffron 748582;1404775829;mircea_popescu;you ok there ? 748583;1404775841;sexysaffron;thanks! forgot the authentication process again! 748584;1404775845;mircea_popescu;lol 748585;1404775849;sexysaffron;I have a video delivery! 748586;1404775860;sexysaffron;https://www.dropbox.com/s/g58mpit4p5zms4l/203.mp4 748587;1404775861;assbot;Dropbox - 203.mp4 748588;1404775861;BingoBoingo;"As well, the new code enables transaction senders to configure how much priority they want their transaction to receive. In some cases, users may opt to have as many as six blocks pass before the first confirmation is received." << How the fuck does Gavin deign to tell the miners what to do? 748589;1404775916;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron cool! 748590;1404775958;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what do you mean ? 748591;1404775986;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The Gavin messing with tx fees article someone dropped a while back 748592;1404775996;sexysaffron;:) 748593;1404776004;sexysaffron;I tweeted him the video and the link to the channel 748594;1404776012;mircea_popescu;link ? 748595;1404776021;sexysaffron;http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets 748596;1404776021;assbot;freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) 748597;1404776026;mircea_popescu;no to your tweet 748598;1404776074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15276 @ 0.00079651 = 12.1675 BTC [-] 748599;1404776147;sexysaffron;https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/with_replies 748600;1404776149;assbot;Saffron Bacchus (SexyMissSaffron) auf Twitter 748601;1404776158;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#746955 << here's you authing last time 748602;1404776158;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 748603;1404776193;mircea_popescu;ok, that tweet is no good because a) it's two tweets and b) it's a weird dropbox link which the guy is not gonna open. 748604;1404776196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13722 @ 0.00079758 = 10.9444 BTC [+] {2} 748605;1404776202;mircea_popescu;so delete them and standby, i'll give you a youtube link in a few mins. 748606;1404776210;sexysaffron;ok! 748607;1404776234;mircea_popescu;actually be like half hour seeing how it'll have to be reprocessed for youtubs. 748608;1404776260;sexysaffron;no problem, you can just send me an email, sexy_miss_saffron@hotmail.com 748609;1404776290;mircea_popescu;aite. 748610;1404776335;kakobrekla;i worked on a saffron garden before. 748611;1404776400;mircea_popescu;expensive shit. 748612;1404776424;kakobrekla;10-15k per kilo 748613;1404776452;kakobrekla;(the good stuff) 748614;1404776492;BingoBoingo;Makes blow seem cheap 748615;1404776504;kakobrekla;the shit is poisonous too. 748616;1404776568;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i was thinking, "Hey, whores were never ever more than 10-15 per kilo) 748617;1404776588;sexysaffron;saffron is worth more than gold! 748618;1404776596;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, when you put it that way... 748619;1404776612;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron not quite, there's ~30 ounces in a kg. 748620;1404776618;mircea_popescu;saffron is about 1/3 of gold or so 748621;1404776621;kakobrekla;our garden, 2011 http://shrani.si/f/1A/vH/2CW8INdn/a1.jpg 748622;1404776652;mircea_popescu;kako is a saffron billionaire. 748623;1404776663;sexysaffron;http://therealsasha.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/what-costs-more-than-gold-in-the-local-supermarket/ 748624;1404776664;assbot;What costs more than Gold in the local supermarket? | The Real Sasha 748625;1404776680;BingoBoingo;My garden has boring vegetables, but I got to disappear a groundhog in its defense last week. 748626;1404776682;kakobrekla;its a fuckin pain to make. especially the harvest. 748627;1404776686;sexysaffron;my google foo claims saffron is worth 3 times more than gold! 748628;1404776691;kakobrekla;reminds of resolving a bitbet. 748629;1404776692;mircea_popescu;that pic should be titled "kako's crocus garden" 748630;1404776701;kakobrekla;or rather the whole process of. 748631;1404776718;kakobrekla;some work in the spring and fuck your asshole in the fall. 748632;1404776736;BingoBoingo;sexysaffron: Well it depends on the volume with saffron, but gold really doesn't give you discounts for buying more than a little. 748633;1404776749;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron gold is atm ~42k per kg 748634;1404776777;mircea_popescu;saffron is what kako says, 15k ish 748635;1404776791;sexysaffron;interesting 748636;1404776792;BingoBoingo;Grams of supermarket saffron are going to be more expensive than the equivalent in gold, but kilos are cheaper 748637;1404776793;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla well put huh. just like bitbets. 748638;1404776842;mircea_popescu;how's the harvest go ? you on hands and knees with a qtip ? 748639;1404776856;kakobrekla;yea 748640;1404776872;kakobrekla;gotta pull the flowers to be later processed 748641;1404776882;kakobrekla;and dig up the ummm what you call em 748642;1404776907;kakobrekla;bulbs 748643;1404776928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15081 @ 0.00078855 = 11.8921 BTC [-] {2} 748644;1404776928;kakobrekla;to be reinserted next year 748645;1404776962;kakobrekla;getting the pistils out is also not an easy job 748646;1404777061;mircea_popescu;most of it is made in iran. 748647;1404777072;kakobrekla;but that is shit quality 748648;1404777083;kakobrekla;does not come even near the price of a good shit 748649;1404777098;ThickAsThieves;i had some store-bought stuff and it tasted like plastic to me 748650;1404777102;kakobrekla;italy is a large producer of high quality stuff 748651;1404777110;kakobrekla;yet they still need to import 748652;1404777199;kakobrekla;in egypt you can get 100grams for the price of 1gram here 748653;1404777204;kakobrekla;cause its total shit. 748654;1404777220;kakobrekla;the funny thing is, the most fuckup is done when they dry it. 748655;1404777222;mircea_popescu;how's shittery measured ? 748656;1404777244;kakobrekla;aroma, color, taste 748657;1404777249;mircea_popescu;i mean as a process 748658;1404777274;kakobrekla;you smell it, you check under the light and you taste it 748659;1404777278;kakobrekla;:D 748660;1404777303;kakobrekla;im not the expert in measuring 748661;1404777310;kakobrekla;but i know really bad from really god 748662;1404777311;kakobrekla;good 748663;1404777342;kakobrekla;if you would have came for a visit i could have shown you the difference. 748664;1404777343;mircea_popescu;!up xdotcommer 748665;1404777365;mircea_popescu;the time is not at an end. 748666;1404777375;mircea_popescu;once i get enough slavegirls maybe i make a saffron growing harem. 748667;1404777399;xdotcommer;mircea_popescu: saffron for mdma ? 748668;1404777420;xdotcommer;oh wait thats safrole 748669;1404777422;mircea_popescu;just for titstick. 748670;1404777429;mircea_popescu;(which is lipstick you use on nipples) 748671;1404777471;xdotcommer;In the United States, safrole is currently a List I chemical. 748672;1404777536;xdotcommer;I thought the two were related.. but it seems just similar spelling 748673;1404777551;BingoBoingo;xdotcommer: Safrole comes from sassafras 748674;1404777590;xdotcommer;<- chem noob 748675;1404777608;mircea_popescu;"It is damnable that women should vote. Nobody should vote least of all women." << this guy is so parodic. 748676;1404777647;BingoBoingo;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassafras#mediaviewer/File:Sassafras7.jpg 748677;1404777647;assbot;Sassafras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 748678;1404777751;BingoBoingo;!up sexysaffron 748679;1404777751;mike_c;kakobrekla, last man standing.. http://www.btcalpha.com/income/ 748680;1404777752;assbot;Income Investment Analysis - Btc Alpha 748681;1404777826;mircea_popescu;mike_c i hope you're giving him a sound trashing for all this lolfx !! 748682;1404777856;mike_c;at least he's still going. 748683;1404777889;mircea_popescu;that';s a point 748684;1404777904;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00079058 = 24.587 BTC [+] 748685;1404777917;asciilifeform;saffron << de-facto banned in usa. 748686;1404777918;mike_c;1 year seems to be the tipping point, so he's got two months to go. 748687;1404777934;asciilifeform;(nominally legal, but attracts official attention) 748688;1404777965;asciilifeform;on account of safrole. 748689;1404777983;asciilifeform;aha somebody already mentioned this. 748690;1404777993;*;asciilifeform actually reads log 748691;1404778042;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, bankrupt socialist states kinda have to come up with reasons to ban the sour grapes they can't afford. 748692;1404778052;mircea_popescu;from what i see french cheese is coming up towards the top of the list. 748693;1404778094;mircea_popescu;all this degenerate hooliganism of saffron and camembert. 748694;1404778124;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: You are mixing up saffron with this plentyful weed full of drug precursor. Saffron is jsut hard to find because of the Iran embargo and... US hates nice things 748695;1404778144;asciilifeform;aha 748696;1404778155;mircea_popescu;sassafras does kinda function like poor man's saffron 748697;1404778183;mircea_popescu;by the way, i found the local cognac here. it 748698;1404778186;mircea_popescu;s quite excellent. 748699;1404778240;mircea_popescu;http://bodegapremium.com.ar/store/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/d9dd03d5ebace78b2234466278b2a7c5.jpg 748700;1404778649;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron so go for something like "Here's a video of me begging @nntaleb to join #bitcoin-assets : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yrlh3E_qu4 " 748701;1404778649;assbot;Mission: #bitcoin-assets - YouTube 748702;1404778657;mircea_popescu;meh. no. 748703;1404778661;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron so go for something like "Here's a video of me begging @nntaleb to join #bitcoin-assets : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yrlh3E_qu4 NSFW" 748704;1404778661;assbot;Mission: #bitcoin-assets - YouTube 748705;1404778792;asciilifeform;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/03/tinfoil_hatters_spook_says_nsa_can_track_whistleblowers_through_power_lines 748706;1404778793;assbot;NSA man says agency can track you through POWER LINES The Register 748707;1404778825;asciilifeform;for bonus points, dredge up mircea_popescu's essay on the subject. 748708;1404778874;mircea_popescu;lol 748709;1404778880;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13026 @ 0.00079058 = 10.2981 BTC [+] 748710;1404778966;asciilifeform;;;google site:http://trilema.com tv radiation 748711;1404778967;gribble;Unsorted collection of various Cardano related updates + spurious ...: ; “Why I am not a white nationalist” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: 748712;1404778972;asciilifeform;there. 748713;1404779158;sexysaffron;done! https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron 748714;1404779159;assbot;Saffron Bacchus (SexyMissSaffron) auf Twitter 748715;1404779273;mircea_popescu;splendid. dear ppls with twitter accts that haven't killed andreas yet : pls to retweet! 748716;1404779292;mircea_popescu;sexysaffron lay back and enjoy teh incoming attention :D 748717;1404779299;mircea_popescu;talk to you later this week for moar of these. 748718;1404779307;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18815 @ 0.00079764 = 15.0076 BTC [+] 748719;1404779359;mircea_popescu;in other news, here's a 2006 kos article derping about how the iquazu falls are going dry : 748720;1404779360;mircea_popescu;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/07/31/232247/-The-scariest-fucking-thing-I-ve-ever-read 748721;1404779363;assbot;The scariest fucking thing I've ever read 748722;1404779368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46319 @ 0.00079772 = 36.9496 BTC [+] {2} 748723;1404779380;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, there they are : http://sploid.gizmodo.com/iguazu-falls-overflow-after-flood-of-biblical-proportio-1589458518 748724;1404779382;assbot;The Iguaz Falls overflow in flood of biblical proportions 748725;1404779388;mircea_popescu;this has been the 2nd major flood since 2006. 748726;1404779393;sexysaffron;ok! 748727;1404779412;mircea_popescu;who could have ever imagined that the earth is complex! 748728;1404779424;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/486103647445872640 748729;1404779425;assbot;Two women from different parts of the world, showing allegiance with a gun, flag and holy book (via /saliltripathi) http://t.co/NgjUOhcEOz 748730;1404779530;mircea_popescu;the white one has better cleavage. case closed. 748731;1404779560;BingoBoingo;lol 748732;1404779572;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/comments/9jvur/i_lost_my_virginity_to_my_sister_ama/ 748733;1404779574;assbot;I lost my virginity to my sister. AMA : reddit.com 748734;1404779717;BingoBoingo;What the fuck, 28 BTC and no guarentee it works? https://www.bitpremier.com/7-collectibles/545-apple-ii-plus-back-in-1979-yes-for-sale 748735;1404779717;assbot;BitPremier — Apple II Plus - Vintage 1979 Collectible 748736;1404779722;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/08/re-enhanced-due-diligence/ 748737;1404780138;mircea_popescu;justusranvier coinbase was evil in 2013, too. 748738;1404780211;justusranvier;Of course they were 748739;1404780235;justusranvier;But at least you could get reliable service out of them (for certain definitions of "reliable") 748740;1404780237;ThickAsThieves;i kinda wonder what volume triggers that 748741;1404780262;justusranvier;Too many newbies are getting sucked into using them with all the good press they've been getting recently 748742;1404780262;ThickAsThieves;they have like a $50k/day limit and charge 1% 748743;1404780275;ThickAsThieves;they use it to trade i guess? 748744;1404780296;justusranvier;Now when they end up getting Cyprused, this current batch of newbies won't be able to claim they weren't warned. 748745;1404780466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5474 @ 0.00079498 = 4.3517 BTC [-] 748746;1404780480;mircea_popescu;well yeah. they'll claim it anyway. 748747;1404780662;BingoBoingo;%t 748748;1404780665;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 275 Last Price: 226 24h-Vol: 24k High: 226 Low: 225 VWAP: 225 748749;1404780711;mod6;%ob 748750;1404780712;atcbot;722@279 1k@278 3k@275 | 3k@226 228k@225 1M@224 748751;1404780734;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: True. They always do 748752;1404780954;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.01352906 = 0.8659 BTC [+] {2} 748753;1404782688;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 748754;1404782694;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 620.42, vol: 7058.72631664 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 618.488, vol: 4145.83759 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 621.75, vol: 5713.89601811 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 619.336848, vol: 7843.13630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 625.98859, vol: 6.4662628 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 619.79885, vol: 56.29137306 | Volume-weighted last average: 620.061298108 748755;1404783666;mircea_popescu;!up metsuno_ 748756;1404783925;mircea_popescu;o look at that, Mike Ruppert apparently died. 748757;1404783947;mircea_popescu;single self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head 748758;1404783959;mircea_popescu;found by landlord. 748759;1404783991;mircea_popescu;On the subject of his own death, Ruppert said: 748760;1404783991;mircea_popescu;The question I am asked most frequently at my lectures is why I havent been killed yet. I have two answers. First, is it is not cost-effective, and the response would cause more problems than it would solve. I am not important enough to kill. Secondly, I will not die one minute before God has decided. 748761;1404783997;mircea_popescu;apparently, teh god had decided. 748762;1404784249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35482 @ 0.00078877 = 27.9871 BTC [-] 748763;1404786722;decimation;mircea: I assume from your quotes you are reading Solzhenitsyn's "In the First Circle". My favorite chapter is Stalin's interiot monologue. 748764;1404789555;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16281 @ 0.00079553 = 12.952 BTC [+] 748765;1404789737;TheNewDeal;so I'm most familiar with BIP38. Are there any others that yous would recommend refreshing up on ? 748766;1404794618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5318 @ 0.00079547 = 4.2303 BTC [-] 748767;1404795339;bitcoinpete;hola amigos 748768;1404795435;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: ya, ver's a derp 748769;1404795443;bitcoinpete;dogecoin jebus 748770;1404795467;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/486371686510788608 748771;1404795468;assbot;Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : http://t.co/lD0pcqv9fu NSFW" 748772;1404795716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00079544 = 7.2385 BTC [-] 748773;1404796529;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.01233529 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.20780078 BTC. Current weight: 9,565. 748774;1404797398;benkay; http://bitcoinpete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/photo-23-1024x1024.jpg << check it out benkay, he's like 2 ahead of you. plus he has a jewfro. // psh you missed my 'fro 748775;1404797411;benkay;!s 30 minutes of fame 748776;1404797412;assbot;2 results for '30 minutes of fame' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=30+minutes+of+fame 748777;1404797427;benkay;surely there've been more. 748778;1404797480;benkay;plus bitcoinpete how many o' dem you takin' home, eh? 748779;1404797526;bitcoinpete;benkay: well, all 748780;1404797532;bitcoinpete;eh 748781;1404797545;bitcoinpete;it ain't cheatin'... 748782;1404797552;bitcoinpete;;D 748783;1404797877;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/conradhackett/status/485880871438651393 748784;1404797879;assbot;Preschool tuition in Manhattan: up to $40,000Preschool admissions coaching: up to $35,000http://t.co/6d0WCz8go3 748785;1404797886;bitcoinpete;dat inflation 748786;1404797895;bitcoinpete;"Preschool admissions coaching: up to $35,000" 748787;1404797903;benkay; enky whay is your strat so broken! // what strat my only strat is to acquire bitcoins 748788;1404797939;benkay;bitcoinpete: i don't even believe you. 748789;1404797949;benkay;butts or gtfo 748790;1404797968;benkay;grrr transaction fees 748791;1404797973;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15945 @ 0.00079544 = 12.6833 BTC [-] 748792;1404797979;benkay;how about you fix this retarded change address shitshow 748793;1404797995;benkay;what the fuck are these expiring backups, goatfuckers? 748794;1404798006;bitcoinpete;expiring backups nao? 748795;1404798008;bitcoinpete;mercy 748796;1404798010;mircea_popescu;benkay ENKY not you mate. 748797;1404798024;mircea_popescu;what is this, fursecution cmplex ? 748798;1404798034;benkay;do you know it took me two days of explaining how badly you've fucked up this thing to my partner for him to grok what you'd done? 748799;1404798043;benkay;i got mah tails in a twizt 748800;1404798059;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/status/486305081029955586 748801;1404798060;assbot;Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : http://t.co/lD0pcqv9fu NSFW" 748802;1404798061;mircea_popescu;ahem 748803;1404798075;mircea_popescu;;;later tell sexysaffron hey, when's the last time you got 2k retweets ? 748804;1404798076;gribble;The operation succeeded. 748805;1404798089;benkay;bitcoinpete: w/ some versions of bitcoinqt, you get a new addr for change from each previous txn 748806;1404798110;bitcoinpete;benkay: what versions that be? 748807;1404798112;benkay;your wallet backup from this POS 'software' only records 100 addrs 748808;1404798123;benkay;uh, halps team? 748809;1404798144;benkay;bitcoinpete asks gud question about bitcoin versions 748810;1404798163;benkay;best answer really is to just compile 0.6 from source, make run and send to an addr under 0.6 control. 748811;1404798171;mircea_popescu;pre .7.x iirc 748812;1404798177;benkay;just avoid whole derpage. 748813;1404798197;benkay;okay so mp ams bless 0.6 it sounds like 748814;1404798248;benkay;o hej big nooz 748815;1404798259;bitcoinpete;ur gay? 748816;1404798265;benkay;get stufft 748817;1404798269;benkay;we ams rent office 748818;1404798276;mircea_popescu;;;later tell decimation yeah blame stan. 748819;1404798277;gribble;The operation succeeded. 748820;1404798279;benkay;oh scuse me 748821;1404798282;benkay;'office' 748822;1404798309;benkay;more like desk and 2 cans 748823;1404798313;bitcoinpete;lol how much you payin? that's the question on everyone's cost conscious mind 748824;1404798332;benkay;600 when alls said and done 748825;1404798362;benkay;list is 575 but i gotta strongarm some bitches into hiring other bitches to clean the kitchen 748826;1404798368;mircea_popescu;preschool admission ?! what the fuck is that ? 748827;1404798416;mircea_popescu; what the fuck are these expiring backups, goatfuckers? << this has always been a thing with bitcoin. 748828;1404798428;bitcoinpete;benkay: gotta have dat clean kitchen 748829;1404798454;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: preschool is pre-daycare 748830;1404798471;mircea_popescu;so this is now performance-based somehow ?! 748831;1404798477;bitcoinpete;hey, if you can spend $75k on a nanny, why not a daycare 748832;1404798500;bitcoinpete;it's privilege based, kinda like everything else 748833;1404798523;mircea_popescu;but i mean what, kid can fail daycare entrance exam ? 748834;1404798531;mircea_popescu;how ? no oral sex skillz ? 748835;1404798533;bitcoinpete;when there's limited spots, it's a highest bidder sort of affair 748836;1404798536;bitcoinpete;lmao 748837;1404798550;bitcoinpete;it's all on the parents 748838;1404798553;mircea_popescu;"sorry ma'am, your kid doesn't know how to dance and masturbate for the webcam 748839;1404798558;mircea_popescu;and her customer service is crap 748840;1404798561;bitcoinpete;they who pump tires hardest win 748841;1404798564;mircea_popescu;just take her home" 748842;1404798599;bitcoinpete;"your boy has exceedingly low self-confidence for someone whose dad is cfo of goldman sachs" 748843;1404798611;benkay;dude mircea_popescu you srsly don't grok us preskewl scam? 748844;1404798638;benkay;bitcoinpete: i see your bs and raise you a butt https://unsee.cc/zesipura/ 748845;1404798638;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 748846;1404798650;benkay;wat 748847;1404798660;benkay;shitty free online services 748848;1404798669;bitcoinpete;lol 748849;1404798682;mircea_popescu;i don't, no. 748850;1404798695;benkay;https://unsee.cc/dabegiso/ 748851;1404798695;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 748852;1404798703;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete how does self confidence inherit lol 748853;1404798725;benkay;well look you see to get into good kawlidge one must have not just good grades but good grades from 'good' hs 748854;1404798734;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete but anyway, the ACTUAL questions of import is, omgwtfbbq, who are the hot bods you take pics with. 748855;1404798746;benkay;to do 'good' hs, one must do 'good' ms, or excel in some way to jump to reel fancy hs. 748856;1404798747;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: wait… you only get inherited shit from your parents nao? 748857;1404798769;benkay;good 'ms', ibid, etc to preskewl. 748858;1404798775;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: haha i'll pass along your kind regards 748859;1404798789;bitcoinpete;at least one of them knows who you are 748860;1404798792;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete what, confidence is not something you can gift people lol. they gotta do shit. 748861;1404798807;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete are they like the Hawt sisters ? 748862;1404798850;bitcoinpete;;;google the hawt sisters 748863;1404798850;gribble;GR8 MOHAN SISTERS !!!~~ | Facebook: ; Instagram photos for tag #babysisters | Iconosquare - Statigram: ; sister News and Photos | Perez Hilton: 748864;1404798880;bitcoinpete;well that was surprisingly useless 748865;1404798884;mircea_popescu;lol 748866;1404798889;mircea_popescu;don 748867;1404798900;mircea_popescu;'t overthing it, the hawt sisters are just these blondy sisters that are hawt. 748868;1404798924;bitcoinpete;the blondies were classmates 748869;1404798933;bitcoinpete;the brunette's the sister 748870;1404798942;bitcoinpete;MINDFUCK! 748871;1404798951;mircea_popescu;brainpretzel 748872;1404798966;mircea_popescu;well, bring the lot when you come to the conference 748873;1404798981;mircea_popescu;i'll get you a quadruple room somehow. 748874;1404798994;bitcoinpete;shweet 748875;1404799014;mircea_popescu;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JuWLk4L6KaY/UxxCIipX_FI/AAAAAAAAw4Q/0W3A1v_lNEw/s1600/t1.jpg << ftl. 748876;1404799038;bitcoinpete;i'll pass along the invite and get some calendars cleared 748877;1404799086;mircea_popescu;bp is going to be the pimpiest pimp in BA. 748878;1404799134;benkay; https://www.dropbox.com/s/g58mpit4p5zms4l/203.mp4 // oh god you did this to me 748879;1404799136;assbot;Dropbox - 203.mp4 748880;1404799179;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: funny cuz i don't even think much of having those 3 hanging off my arm 748881;1404799181;bitcoinpete;must be a sign 748882;1404799208;mircea_popescu;ikr? 748883;1404799217;mircea_popescu;sweet innocence, slaughtered in b-a 748884;1404799235;mircea_popescu;benkay hm ? 748885;1404799249;benkay;have you even watched it?! 748886;1404799269;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: so nao that i'm feelin all pimpin', you gonna rate bp or what? 748887;1404799302;bitcoinpete;how long do i have to blog and irc to get some love around here 748888;1404799307;mircea_popescu;;;rated bitcoinpete 748889;1404799308;gribble;You have not yet rated user bitcoinpete 748890;1404799310;mircea_popescu;o wow. 748891;1404799316;bitcoinpete;ikr 748892;1404799317;mircea_popescu;;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Pimp. 748893;1404799317;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 748894;1404799324;mircea_popescu;holy sheit. 748895;1404799337;benkay;scammer 748896;1404799347;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TR0RBA.txt ) 748897;1404799347;bitcoinpete;!b 3 748898;1404799356;mircea_popescu;;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Pimp. 748899;1404799357;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded. 748900;1404799365;bitcoinpete;muchas gracias 748901;1404799370;mircea_popescu;benkay whatched what ? 748902;1404799443;benkay;the thing ms saffron did for taleb 748903;1404799449;mircea_popescu;anyway, that was all for tonight, see you all tomorro! 748904;1404799487;bitcoinpete;cheers! 748905;1404799489;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/486368695011119104 748906;1404799490;assbot;"Ireland central bank official warns virtual currencies can challenge sovereignty of states" http://t.co/rGapNyLjVS http://t.co/E6KSVWC6Sk 748907;1404799571;[]bot;Bet placed: 8 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 28.20780078 BTC. Current weight: 9,444. 748908;1404799609;kyuupichan;Anyone else getting satoshi spam? I've gotten 3 so far... 748909;1404799618;kyuupichan;It actually confirmed. 748910;1404799646;bitcoinpete;kyuupichan: weird. none on my end 748911;1404799729;kyuupichan;Each one a different txn. Here's one. 748912;1404799732;kyuupichan;https://blockchain.info/tx/574d77eb277974ca1000b154023940c3e366d5bf4dd06b7fe3b0d92eea54e0c7 748913;1404799733;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction 574d77eb277974ca1000b154023940c3e366d5bf4dd06b7fe3b0d92eea54e0c7 748914;1404799866;bitcoinpete;huh 748915;1404799950;kyuupichan;That block had at least 3 of them. 974KB block! Largest I've seen I think. Wonder why stupid miner decided to include that. 748916;1404799973;bitcoinpete;maybe the miner sent it 748917;1404800078;kyuupichan;A spam block if ever there was one. Wonder if it's some agency trying to link addresses. 748918;1404800111;kyuupichan;Only economic way to spend that shit is to include it with sthg else 748919;1404800156;kyuupichan;~700K of that block is satoshi spam 748920;1404801143;bitcoinpete;;;rate mircea_popescu 2 mpex rabbi 748921;1404801144;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2. 748922;1404801913;bitcoinpete;http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/30/news/economy/dead-malls/index.html?iid=HP_River 748923;1404801914;assbot;Autopsy of America: Photos of dead shopping malls - Jun. 30, 2014 748924;1404803158;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40950 @ 0.00079176 = 32.4226 BTC [-] {3} 748925;1404803502;BingoBoingo;%p 748926;1404803505;BingoBoingo;%d 748927;1404803509;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3906.32 GH/s 748928;1404803509;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 444324.95 in 1590 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -43.41 748929;1404804744;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7661 @ 0.00079108 = 6.0605 BTC [-] 748930;1404806818;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00079016 = 31.6854 BTC [-] {2} 748931;1404807489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49722 @ 0.00078787 = 39.1745 BTC [-] {3} 748932;1404808465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41050 @ 0.00078678 = 32.2973 BTC [-] 748933;1404808526;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00078909 = 36.1798 BTC [+] {3} 748934;1404811637;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00078971 = 24.7574 BTC [+] 748935;1404812003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00079299 = 44.4074 BTC [+] {2} 748936;1404812200;davout;ola 748937;1404813114;fluffypony;davout: http://www.coindesk.com/french-officials-seize-272800-illegal-bitcoin-exchange/ 748938;1404813115;assbot;French Officials Seize $272,800 From Illegal Bitcoin Exchange 748939;1404813150;davout;fluffypony: someone hasn't been reading teh lawgs :3 748940;1404813160;fluffypony;must've missed that 748941;1404813181;davout;hehe, i was wondering yesterday whether it was dotcoin or not 748942;1404813186;davout;not that much info 748943;1404813215;fluffypony;yeah not enough info 748944;1404813227;fluffypony;besides bitcoinbourse, who else could it be? 748945;1404813233;pankkake;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/fr/actualites-bitcoin/premiere-arrestation-en-france-liee-au-bitcoin/2014/07/07 says it's bestxchanger.com 748946;1404813235;assbot;Arrestation franaise lie au bitcoin - CryptoCoinsNews 748947;1404813254;fluffypony;pity 748948;1404813390;davout;i don't really know, some stuff matches with bitcoinbourse, some other stuff not, first of all they said the website was put offline, and bitcoinbourse seems to be up 748949;1404813411;fluffypony;bestxchanger.com is down for maintenance, but that could also be coincidental 748950;1404813575;pankkake;it was down yesterday too 748951;1404813659;fluffypony;hah hah, great article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/07/kickstarter_wtf/ 748952;1404813659;assbot;Wannabe Startup CEOs Hate This Guy: One Easy Way To Raise $45,000+ You Won't Believe The Register 748953;1404813666;fluffypony;'Tech investors are stunned by the amount of cash that has flooded into Brown's project. "This is no flavor of the month type scheme – I'm long on potatoes and you should be as well," one financial industry source didn't tell us.' 748954;1404813684;davout;pankkake might be them then 748955;1404813772;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00078971 = 21.875 BTC [-] 748956;1404816822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26094 @ 0.0007936 = 20.7082 BTC [+] {2} 748957;1404819762;punkman;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/startkicking/goat https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/668802520/big-awesome-burrito https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/5500212/i-want-to-make-ice-cream https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aboundlessworld/fried-rice 748958;1404819763;assbot;Goat by Cameron Little — Kickstarter 748959;1404819763;assbot;Big Awesome Burrito by Kurtis Walsh — Kickstarter 748960;1404819764;assbot;I Want To Make Ice Cream. by J — Kickstarter 748961;1404819765;assbot;Fried Rice by Bud Hennekes — Kickstarter 748962;1404819780;punkman;fluffypony, I think kickstarter just gave up trying to moderate anything 748963;1404819783;fluffypony;lol 748964;1404819789;fluffypony;that's hilarious 748965;1404819838;punkman;dozens of "I want to find the perfect recipe for X" projects 748966;1404819846;punkman;"pay me to eat steak" 748967;1404819888;fluffypony;frikkin lame 748968;1404819964;pankkake;it's the altpotatoasalad 748969;1404820104;punkman;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/870812803/coleslaw https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1082782361/coleslaw-0 748970;1404820105;assbot;Coleslaw by Danny Willford — Kickstarter 748971;1404820106;assbot;Coleslaw by Gary Howard — Kickstarter 748972;1404820129;pankkake;so many hipster faces :/ 748973;1404820231;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/bADGY3x.png 748974;1404820312;punkman;fluffypony: you should kickstart that 748975;1404820319;fluffypony;lol 748976;1404820331;fluffypony;kickstarted is the new bitcointalk securities sub-forum. 748977;1404820334;fluffypony;*starter 748978;1404820341;punkman;nah 748979;1404820567;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell mike_c - Is seeds.therealaltcoin.org behaving as desired now? 748980;1404820568;gribble;The operation succeeded. 748981;1404820591;pankkake;I like that everbody has their drink 748982;1404820648;pankkake;seeds.therealaltcoin.org has address 54.197.241.190 748983;1404820648;pankkake;Host seeds.therealaltcoin.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL) 748984;1404820648;pankkake;Host seeds.therealaltcoin.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL) 748985;1404820663;pankkake;but perhaps mike_c only needs to start his server 748986;1404820718;ThickAsThieves;possibly 748987;1404820741;ThickAsThieves;shouldnt/couldnt i just host the nodes at the same domain? 748988;1404820787;pankkake;you need to run software, I don't think your hosting provides that 748989;1404820809;ThickAsThieves;word 748990;1404820823;ThickAsThieves;i have another server i totall control, but it has clients on it 748991;1404820827;ThickAsThieves;til end of the year 748992;1404820847;ThickAsThieves;not sure if that matters 748993;1404820853;fluffypony;the software won't interfere with that 748994;1404820872;fluffypony;all it does is check that the peers its connected to are legit and active, and then it updates the A record 748995;1404820882;fluffypony;need sushi, bbl 748996;1404821651;ThickAsThieves;just in case more f.derp listings are in order http://www.coindesk.com/one-law-firm-helping-bitcoin-startups-find-success/ 748997;1404821651;assbot;How One Law Firm is Helping Bitcoin Startups Find Success 748998;1404821667;ThickAsThieves;lists all the bitcoin biz that got funding 748999;1404821678;ThickAsThieves;*notable* funding 749000;1404827375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33792 @ 0.00079311 = 26.8008 BTC [-] {2} 749001;1404827375;pankkake;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/892018590/kgoal-smart-kegel-trainer 749002;1404827376;assbot;kGoal Smart Kegel Trainer by Minna Life — Kickstarter 749003;1404827437;asciilifeform;pankkake: http://www.theinfosphere.org/Kegelcizer 749004;1404827437;assbot;Kegelcizer - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki 749005;1404827475;pankkake;lol, I didn't remember that one 749006;1404827802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10171 @ 0.0007953 = 8.089 BTC [+] 749007;1404828090;benkay; the software won't interfere with that // running cryptocurrency stuff on client boxes? 749008;1404828194;ThickAsThieves;i decided it a bad idea, aside from security, it's a managed services box, so i'll just end up closing the account in December anyway 749009;1404829084;benkay;http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/immigrants-from-latin-america-and-africa-squeezed-as-banks-curtail-international-money-transfers/ 749010;1404829632;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0007953 = 14.8721 BTC [+] 749011;1404829701;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 749012;1404829703;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 618.78, Best ask: 621.88, Bid-ask spread: 3.10000, Last trade: 621.88, 24 hour volume: 4570.83662792, 24 hour low: 612.9, 24 hour high: 630.0, 24 hour vwap: 620.10935941 749013;1404829807;ThickAsThieves;something funny about a supposed ISIS blog being hosted at wordpress.com and using google fonts 749014;1404829821;mircea_popescu;lol why ? 749015;1404829845;ThickAsThieves;well first it's funny for conspiracy theorist reasons 749016;1404829854;mircea_popescu;obviously 749017;1404829859;ThickAsThieves;in English, using english stuff etc 749018;1404829871;ThickAsThieves;then it's funy that google is helping ISIS CSS look nice 749019;1404829886;mircea_popescu;wait. you mean it's funny proceeding on the theory that it is ACTUALLY what it says ? 749020;1404829895;mircea_popescu;dude come on, it's the internet. all of it is fake. 749021;1404829905;ThickAsThieves;it's funny either way is what i'm saying 749022;1404829923;mircea_popescu;what, google seditiously halping the enemy is funny ? 749023;1404829927;mircea_popescu;that is unfunny, son! 749024;1404829946;ThickAsThieves;it's like my opinion man 749025;1404829967;mircea_popescu;flag burning belljeans wearing potheads! 749026;1404829970;mircea_popescu;get off my lawn! 749027;1404829986;ThickAsThieves;we call em bellbottoms 749028;1404830026;mircea_popescu;actually the internet's fucking cursed to be funny. for instance : http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU 749029;1404830027;assbot;Boston Truth Revealed - Imgur 749030;1404830031;mircea_popescu;fucking hysterical if you ask me. 749031;1404830036;pankkake;perhaps we should start our own terrorist group 749032;1404830045;mircea_popescu;aren't you a late pankkake 749033;1404830066;pankkake;and I can't take out of my mind that ISIS is the spy agency of Archer 749034;1404830092;pankkake;no, but about something worth fighting for, not that God or independence crap 749035;1404830115;pankkake;for now my project is terrorists for Firefly season 2 749036;1404830117;mircea_popescu;da fuck's worth fighting for. 749037;1404830119;mircea_popescu;women and booze. 749038;1404830364;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.0007953 = 22.1889 BTC [+] 749039;1404830406;chetty;ISIS is fighting for womens, sexual jihad (no booze tho allah doesn't like that) 749040;1404830425;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c the "Only send Bitcoin" type warnings should prolly have a red triangle rather than the current gray thing 749041;1404830425;gribble;The operation succeeded. 749042;1404830457;mircea_popescu;chetty remember that dude in egypt that was trying to steal you ? 749043;1404830462;mircea_popescu;he came up with booze alright. 749044;1404830468;pankkake;I'm all for enslaving the womyns, but why put bed sheets on them? 749045;1404830503;mircea_popescu;pankkake maybe they dislike tans. and wtf is this enlsaving the womnys thing 749046;1404830525;pankkake;hm, true, I like white skin 749047;1404830530;chetty;haha I had blessedly forgotten that 749048;1404830538;pankkake;I am pretty much a djihadist already 749049;1404830549;pankkake;bitcoin, beard 749050;1404830638;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/486368695011119104 << o look at that, someone's been reading trilema 749051;1404830639;assbot;"Ireland central bank official warns virtual currencies can challenge sovereignty of states" http://t.co/rGapNyLjVS http://t.co/E6KSVWC6Sk 749052;1404830645;mircea_popescu;two fucking years late. like the last n times. 749053;1404830692;ThickAsThieves;yay NFLX pump failed 749054;1404830692;mircea_popescu;no plural. THE virtual currency. no past tense. IS challenging sovereignity of states. not some either, all of them. and has been, for a fucking while. 749055;1404830694;mircea_popescu;now what. 749056;1404830701;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves were you short ? 749057;1404830704;ThickAsThieves;am 749058;1404830706;ThickAsThieves;yeah 749059;1404830746;mircea_popescu;o not covering huh ? 749060;1404830761;ThickAsThieves;nope, still some time before earnings 749061;1404830828;mircea_popescu;wow look at that, someone's mining 25kb txn for 0.0001 btc in fees. 749062;1404830852;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan definitely new one. 749063;1404830865;davout;"wow look at that, someone's mining 25kb txn for 0.0001 btc in fees." <<< such storage DOS 749064;1404830899;mircea_popescu;srsly. 749065;1404830922;mircea_popescu;this may become a fucking issue, incidentally. the guy gets paid 6 cents for everyone else to have to permanently store 1mb 749066;1404830941;mircea_popescu;i think people don't quite correctly evaluate the cost of running a node yet. 749067;1404830976;mircea_popescu;best sex changer wtf is this 749068;1404830978;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: it looks like it is working to me 749069;1404830987;davout;interestingly enough i don't see this discussed anywhere 749070;1404831003;pankkake;this will make the "low fees" crowd head spin 749071;1404831004;mircea_popescu;davout who'd know enough about it ? "teh french community" ? 749072;1404831050;davout;no, i mean to me it's the only thing that to date remains unsolved, yet there isn't really much discussion about it 749073;1404831065;mircea_popescu;"For what it's worth, the median annual wage in Ohio is $46,093." 749074;1404831091;mircea_popescu;fluffypony look at that shit. they make 4k a year now. houses are supposedly selling for 8 month's median wage in ohio. 749075;1404831113;davout;i read a couple things about migrations to a model where only a rolling window of blocks need to be kept which is quite interesting 749076;1404831136;fluffypony;what did I miss? 749077;1404831149;mircea_popescu;fluffypony just processing the potato sald link 749078;1404831152;mircea_popescu;want more mayo ? 749079;1404831161;ThickAsThieves;mike_c awesome, thx - now to find someone to update the wallet... 749080;1404831174;mircea_popescu;davout for all its disadvantages something like that doesn't seem avoidable. 749081;1404831176;fluffypony;ah yes 749082;1404831176;mircea_popescu;!up mois 749083;1404831196;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88208.0 749084;1404831196;assbot;Ultimate blockchain compression w/ trust-free lite nodes 749085;1404831216;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277389.0 749086;1404831216;assbot;Really Really ultimate blockchain compression: CoinWitness 749087;1404831233;fluffypony;hah hah 749088;1404831242;davout;lol 749089;1404831242;fluffypony;someone just gave the best definition of mongodb 749090;1404831243;fluffypony;[16:33:14] @todor: Mongo is eventually. maybe. consistent 749091;1404831244;fluffypony;[16:33:20] @todor: with some data loss 749092;1404831244;fluffypony;[16:33:26] @todor: (but you'll never know) 749093;1404831244;fluffypony;[16:34:00] @todor: it's a troll database basically 749094;1404831255;mircea_popescu;he has a point. 749095;1404831260;pankkake;not the first time I see that definition 749096;1404831292;davout;"it works really well with php where you're never really sure about what is equal to something else" 749097;1404831292;fluffypony;I'm calling it a "troll database" from now on 749098;1404831309;fluffypony;"works really well with floats for financial values" 749099;1404831319;mircea_popescu;lol wut 749100;1404831326;davout;i'm calling the =:D= the trollquality operator, coming in php 8 749101;1404831333;mircea_popescu;what is this meme where manboobs think "floats" somehow are "financial values" 749102;1404831341;pankkake;I thought we settled on 8==B 749103;1404831353;mircea_popescu;pankkake that's a different one 749104;1404831358;davout;pankkake: no that's the peñor size comparator 749105;1404831362;mircea_popescu;=:D= != 8==D 749106;1404831373;davout;"=:D= != 8==D" <<< maybe 749107;1404831383;mircea_popescu;in all cases unless mouth full. 749108;1404831396;davout;you are on a big endian system? god help you 749109;1404831422;fluffypony;hah hah 749110;1404831423;mircea_popescu;someone should make cocksucker (abbreviated C*). the logo is a woman with a penis in mouth. 749111;1404831428;mircea_popescu;the language consists of moans 749112;1404831441;mircea_popescu;ahh can be for and oh can be if 749113;1404831497;mircea_popescu;ahh baby your cock is so big oh stack pop it. 749114;1404831522;pankkake;gags for stack overflows? 749115;1404831532;mircea_popescu;definitely. 749116;1404831541;davout;ICantSeeAnymoreException raised 749117;1404831542;chetty;but you cant do that, its homophobic 749118;1404831551;mircea_popescu;and overloaded functions come without saying. they're called nigger functions 749119;1404831568;mircea_popescu;chetty why is it homophobig ? faggots moan too ? 749120;1404831668;chetty;well anything fun is phobic something 749121;1404831772;davout;i fucking love ruby : "CAUTION: Use of this library is discouraged, because this implementation was meant to be experimental but somehow got into the 1.9 series without being noticed. Please use OpenSSL::HMAC in the “openssl” library instead." 749122;1404831817;pankkake;you're not using ruby 2.0? isn't 1.9 so last year? 749123;1404831841;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: frikkin lame pankkake: it's the altpotatoasalad << it is. and it IS fucking lame omfg. 749124;1404831841;davout;you are absolutely right, i 749125;1404831853;davout;i wtf'd reading this :D 749126;1404831863;mircea_popescu;davout is a fail hipster, still on 1.9 749127;1404831881;mircea_popescu;!up jamesdean-afk 749128;1404831904;davout;mircea_popescu: hipsters do node, real hipsters do go 749129;1404832085;fluffypony;don't forget about redis 749130;1404832119;pankkake;redis works well for its intended purpose 749131;1404832145;rithm;real men do it in assembly 749132;1404832156;davout;rithm: real men do it in the vagina 749133;1404832166;rithm;64K of ram ought to be enough 749134;1404832178;pankkake;real men do it in every hole 749135;1404832201;fluffypony;all of the holes! 749136;1404832219;mircea_popescu; redis works well for its intended purpose << o no we detect a puckering butthole? 749137;1404832220;rithm;for the glory! 749138;1404832257;mircea_popescu;rithm real men don't code dawg. real men just tell unreal men how to get realer. 749139;1404832278;rithm;that's real talk 749140;1404832306;ThickAsThieves;heh, one of the exchanges finally added Altcoin to it's voting area https://hitbtc.com/vote 749141;1404832306;assbot;Coin voting / hitbtc 749142;1404832317;mircea_popescu;as real as angelina's boobs. 749143;1404832411;mircea_popescu;http://www.infobae.com/2014/07/08/1579111-el-gobierno-pidio-ayuda-eeuu-identificar-los-usuarios-twitter-que-apoyan-campagnoli 749144;1404832411;assbot;El Gobierno pidi ayuda a EEUU para identificar a los usuarios de Twitter que apoyan a Campagnoli | Jos Mara Campagnoli - Infobae 749145;1404832415;mircea_popescu;check out this epic shit. 749146;1404832418;mircea_popescu;mthreat ^ 749147;1404832517;fluffypony;oh wow, the twitterers are even mentioned there 749148;1404832541;fluffypony;famouze 749149;1404832543;mircea_popescu;total trollage, the argentines are gonna end up with a trolface on their fglag 749150;1404832549;mthreat;angelinas boobs? 749151;1404832555;mthreat;oh infobae article 749152;1404832569;mircea_popescu;;;later tell princessnel http://globalgoodgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/angie-castillo-e1325006373644.jpg 749153;1404832572;gribble;The operation succeeded. 749154;1404832588;mircea_popescu;a j boobs used to be epic. 749155;1404832927;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: just in case more f.derp listings are in order http://www.coindesk.com/one-law-firm-helping-bitcoin-startups-find-success/ << i don't get it, you want me to list a law firm ?! 749156;1404832927;assbot;How One Law Firm is Helping Bitcoin Startups Find Success 749157;1404832970;mircea_popescu;o shit i forgot coinbase didn't i. herp. 749158;1404832972;ThickAsThieves;nah, the article is mostly about startups and the money they got 749159;1404832991;mircea_popescu;Coinbase has managed to secure $25m in series B funding led by Silicon Valley-based venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. This brings the total amount raised by the company to $31.9m. 749160;1404832991;mircea_popescu;The firm, which describes itself as an international digital wallet that allows you to securely buy, use, and accept bitcoin currency, is going from strength to strength, with an estimated 600,000 people now using its wallet service, up from 200,000 in August. 749161;1404833013;ThickAsThieves;do better! 749162;1404833060;mircea_popescu;coolness. 749163;1404833101;mthreat;xapo news on techcrunch.. 20m funding 749164;1404833113;mircea_popescu;yup 749165;1404833122;fluffypony;and yet they still don't have their card partner sorted? 749166;1404833235;ThickAsThieves;I'd buy some F.VAURUM probly 749167;1404833245;ThickAsThieves;the rest, meh 749168;1404833250;ThickAsThieves;i'd short kraken too 749169;1404833265;ThickAsThieves;fuckin useless 749170;1404833565;mircea_popescu;too low rly. 749171;1404833718;ThickAsThieves;i had someone re-explain our copper conversation, and now i get it 749172;1404833744;ThickAsThieves;the issue was i was really asking in the interest of gold, so i wasnt quite seeing how thered be lack of speculative demand 749173;1404833772;ThickAsThieves;but copper is not gold 749174;1404834063;davout;ThickAsThieves: why would you short kraken? 749175;1404834143;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/08/attracting-taleb-and-tlp-with-camgirls/ 749176;1404834213;ThickAsThieves;I think they dont 'get it' 749177;1404834250;ThickAsThieves;one thing that drives me crazy is how they price in the orderbook 749178;1404834291;ThickAsThieves;https://www.kraken.com/ look at, say, the NMC pricing 749179;1404834292;assbot;Kraken | Buy and Sell Bitcoins 749180;1404834406;davout;bitcoinpete: such amaze 749181;1404834452;davout;ThickAsThieves: they price it the same way they price USD relative to BTC, how would you do it ? 749182;1404834476;ThickAsThieves;like every other exchange 749183;1404834496;ThickAsThieves;how many btc one nmc is worth 749184;1404834502;ThickAsThieves;.0028BTC 749185;1404834523;ThickAsThieves;that should be how it's priced on NMC/BTC market 749186;1404834529;davout;hm, that's the opposite of what all exchanges do when it comes to quote fiat vs btc 749187;1404834541;mircea_popescu;davout since when is "all other" an argument ? 749188;1404834566;davout;mircea_popescu: when did i start arguing? 749189;1404834585;mircea_popescu;well he said they don't get it and you seemed to disagree 749190;1404834594;ThickAsThieves;he seems concerned to me 749191;1404834599;ThickAsThieves;interested 749192;1404834604;mircea_popescu;aok nm 749193;1404834620;davout;mircea_popescu: i'm in the process of collecting facts that comes before building a considered opinion :-) 749194;1404834621;ThickAsThieves;maybe he knows/likes kraken people/things 749195;1404834640;mircea_popescu;anyway, i won't add kraken anyway, not because they're smart or anything, but whatever, it seems like it'd be more like publicity for them than anything 749196;1404834644;ThickAsThieves;the software and branding are decent 749197;1404834652;ThickAsThieves;name is maybe a lil weird for it 749198;1404834658;ThickAsThieves;but acceptible 749199;1404834671;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/further-derps-dbstp-dcbse-dcifi-dokco-dxapo/ 749200;1404834672;assbot;Further derps : D.BSTP, D.CBSE, D.CIFI, D.OKCO, D.XAPO pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 749201;1404834677;ThickAsThieves;layout of trading tools is not as intuitive as other sites 749202;1404834687;ThickAsThieves;pricing just kills it for me 749203;1404834699;ThickAsThieves;such a stupid little thing 749204;1404834711;ThickAsThieves;would make me punch a wall to have to accomodate it 749205;1404834734;ThickAsThieves;accommodate* 749206;1404834761;davout;ThickAsThieves: can you even trade there ? 749207;1404834772;davout;i thought they didn't accept muricans 749208;1404834785;ThickAsThieves;dunno, i havent used it for usd 749209;1404834792;davout;ah 749210;1404834795;davout;you do alts 749211;1404834799;ThickAsThieves;i deppsited some NMC and BTC and was gonna trade without withdrawing 749212;1404834809;ThickAsThieves;but then they wont let me USD 749213;1404834816;ThickAsThieves;and the NMC is all fukt priced 749214;1404834821;ThickAsThieves;so i never traded 749215;1404834844;ThickAsThieves;without withdrawing USD* 749216;1404834927;mircea_popescu;mike_c https://www.venturescanner.com/scans/88 << check out the lulz. 749217;1404834932;mircea_popescu;generally that site is pretty funny 749218;1404834981;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/08/attracting-taleb-and-tlp-to-bitcoin-assets-with-camgirls/ 749219;1404835007;bitcoinpete;^urlprovements 749220;1404835032;mike_c;i think i'm getting paywalled. can't see it 749221;1404835047;mircea_popescu;mike_c ok, better one then : https://www.venturescanner.com/scans/bitcoin 749222;1404835049;assbot;Venture Scanner : Real-time coverage on emerging technology markets. : 3D Printing : Bitcoin : Digital Health : Connected Transportation : Future of TV 749223;1404835051;chetty;when does this game start? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ 749224;1404835052;assbot;Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 0 - War of Life 749225;1404835053;mircea_popescu;scroll down to where you're absent. 749226;1404835072;mike_c;chetty: (starts 310,523) 749227;1404835081;ThickAsThieves;mp, in ur post, maybe add AKA for CIPI and OKCO? since it isnt whole or obvious names? 749228;1404835107;ThickAsThieves;cant remember what CIPI was... 749229;1404835118;mircea_popescu;mike_c https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << one screen says 2.41 the other 2.0 749230;1404835119;assbot;Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 0 - War of Life 749231;1404835128;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ty 749232;1404835136;chetty;mike_c, maybe I am dense but how does that relate to actual time? like hwere is it now? 749233;1404835140;mike_c;just saw that.. it's caching based on game year. will fix now. 749234;1404835153;mircea_popescu;chetty its by blocks 749235;1404835157;mircea_popescu;;;block 749236;1404835158;gribble;Error: "block" is not a valid command. 749237;1404835160;mircea_popescu;meh 749238;1404835174;ThickAsThieves;%block 749239;1404835183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75195818 BTC to 11`718 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 749240;1404835183;bitcoinpete;"The ecology of the water body is not likely to be affected much and it will also reduce evaporation, thus helping preserve water levels during extreme summer. Solar panels installed on land, face reduction of yield as the ground heats up. When such panels are installed on a floating platform, the heating problem is solved to a great extent." 749241;1404835183;ThickAsThieves;%help 749242;1404835184;atcbot;[ %t | %ticker ] [ %ob | %book ] [ %d | %diff ] [ %tx ] [ %bal
] [ %m | %mined ] [ %b | %block ] [ %lb ] [ %tslb ] [ %p | %pool ] [ %cm ] [ %ptp ] [ %h | %help ] 749243;1404835186;bitcoinpete;http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-06-20/news/50739119_1_power-plant-solar-power-nhpc 749244;1404835187;assbot;Kolkata firm to help NHPC set up floating 50-mw solar power plant in Kerala - Economic Times 749245;1404835216;mircea_popescu;;;blocks 749246;1404835217;gribble;309795 749247;1404835240;mircea_popescu;;;calc (310523 - 309795) / 360 749248;1404835240;gribble;2.02222222222 749249;1404835245;mircea_popescu;in 2 hours and a little 749250;1404835258;mircea_popescu;uh no. 749251;1404835268;mircea_popescu;;;calc (310523 - 309795) / 6 / 24 749252;1404835268;gribble;5.05555555556 749253;1404835272;mircea_popescu;in 5 days ? 749254;1404835286;chetty;thanks, the page could use a little more info it doesnt show current block 749255;1404835299;mircea_popescu;a that's a good point. mike_c ^ 749256;1404835322;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete interesting concept 749257;1404835329;mircea_popescu;plus you don't have to bribe reid to kick out cowboys 749258;1404835365;mike_c;chetty: see the current game: https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/ 749259;1404835366;assbot;Game 16 - Death 5658 Life 4342 Year 272 - War of Life 749260;1404835374;mike_c;^ Year 272 out of 1000 749261;1404835390;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i can foresee problems in depriving aquatic environments with sunlight 749262;1404835399;mircea_popescu;obviously. 749263;1404835400;bitcoinpete;hard to imagine much could survive underneath those panels 749264;1404835423;mircea_popescu;yes, it sucks to try and live in any place where technology. 749265;1404835444;mike_c;are you suggesting I show the current BTC block for games that haven't started yet? i can do that. 749266;1404835445;bitcoinpete;lol without too 749267;1404835457;ThickAsThieves;there are probly things that will thrive under the panels too 749268;1404835474;bitcoinpete;or on top of 749269;1404835492;bitcoinpete;they'll be landing areas for birds 749270;1404835496;ThickAsThieves;theyll have a cleaner surely 749271;1404835498;bitcoinpete;growth substrates for mosses 749272;1404835509;mircea_popescu;mike_c yeah current block on all chains shuld be displayed somewhere 749273;1404835513;mircea_popescu;!up PoUpA 749274;1404835523;ThickAsThieves;WoL could generally use a lil more handholding 749275;1404835524;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: what a fucking project that'll be 749276;1404835525;mircea_popescu;like if btc is loaded, display btc current block 749277;1404835539;ThickAsThieves;like (?) icons with pop-up explanations 749278;1404835565;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: agreed. 749279;1404835574;mircea_popescu;btw anyone hating mike's css ? cause DUN SEE NO MOTHERFUCKING ROUNDED CORNERS 749280;1404835580;mircea_popescu;the whole logo's a rhomboid! 749281;1404835594;mircea_popescu;or does it only grate if the square corners are in the corners. 749282;1404835600;PoUpA;Hi, thanks for the voice lol didn't expected that 749283;1404835618;chetty;looks fine to me, but them I like mpex too 749284;1404835619;mircea_popescu;yw. who're you ? 749285;1404835641;PoUpA;nobody lol 749286;1404835642;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/further-derps-dbstp-dcbse-dcifi-dokco-dxapo/ 749287;1404835646;ThickAsThieves;i like the WoL logo, like a nerdy yinyang 749288;1404835680;ThickAsThieves;also contains pacman 749289;1404835691;ThickAsThieves;and stealth bomber 749290;1404835694;ThickAsThieves;cant lose 749291;1404835901;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete sadly the odds of tlp actually seeing that video are nil, because a) he hasn't approved the comment on his blog still. a bunch of fucktards made > 50 comments since then with their fucktardery. if i were him i wouldn't ever read the comments on that blog, i'd rather read coindesk. 749292;1404835931;mircea_popescu;and b) i bet you nobody's bothered to send him an email to point it out, he prolly doesn't read his twitter (or his email for that matter) 749293;1404835955;mircea_popescu;or in otherwords : being dumb and deaf keeps one from interacting with the coolness in this world. and the world can't cure it for him. 749294;1404836014;bitcoinpete;we can always wait until he does a book signing and have someone show up with a logged-in laptop 749295;1404836024;bitcoinpete;sorta like suggestion 3 for taleb 749296;1404836033;bitcoinpete;tlp will publish eventually 749297;1404836049;bitcoinpete;and his publisher will surely have him do a public appearance or two 749298;1404836070;mircea_popescu;what am i, an abused sicilian wife ? 749299;1404836090;mircea_popescu;life selects. he was smart enough, but he couldn't hear. there's no difference between the deaf and the dumb. 749300;1404836119;bitcoinpete;the video is your one and only olive branch then? 749301;1404836141;mircea_popescu;im not including tlp in the next set for lack of a means to get in touch. 749302;1404836176;bitcoinpete;fair enough, taleb is more public 749303;1404836189;bitcoinpete;"If at first you don't succeed try, try and try again." 749304;1404836205;bitcoinpete;unless it's a terrible idea 749305;1404836215;bitcoinpete;which this isn't 749306;1404836221;ThickAsThieves;well i didnt see the shorter video, but there may also be a communication gap 749307;1404836229;mircea_popescu;how could it be, girls get paid to have fun 749308;1404836255;mircea_popescu;whether these derps get something out of it or not is really secondary, and entirely up to them 749309;1404836277;ThickAsThieves;well if TLP watches the vid, does he get any clue of why he might wanna visit #b-a, or what it is? 749310;1404836302;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves he gets a clue an entity exists that is powerful enough and informed enough 749311;1404836304;ThickAsThieves;or is it just we're wild n crazy guys that hire camwhores, cmon by! 749312;1404836361;mircea_popescu;like suppose i send cia's shadow ops director a buquet of n roses on the day he forgot to send his wife the n number as he should have. 749313;1404836394;mircea_popescu;if guy has any sense he dismantles the entire thing that same day. they've failed. 749314;1404836412;ThickAsThieves;fair enough 749315;1404836418;ThickAsThieves;i'd have researched 749316;1404836433;mircea_popescu;not like bitcoin-assets isn't first hit on google. 749317;1404836439;mircea_popescu;wiki and even a phone number. 749318;1404836443;bitcoinpete;so if you send taleb the dead sea scrolls to his house with a hand-written card asking him to hit dat webchat 749319;1404836446;bitcoinpete;then we have something 749320;1404836456;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete i'd burn them and send him a youtube of that. 749321;1404836471;bitcoinpete;not sure the guy watches that much youtube 749322;1404836472;ThickAsThieves;just send him a large box marked ANTFRAGILE - HANDLE WITHOUT CARE 749323;1404836478;bitcoinpete;lol 749324;1404836495;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, years ago i used to say that one of my goals once i'm rich is to make pilaf 749325;1404836503;mircea_popescu;out of those chinese rice things with emperors painted on them 749326;1404836504;ThickAsThieves;kickstarter ahoy! 749327;1404836525;ThickAsThieves;Make a Pilaf With Mircea 749328;1404836538;mircea_popescu;"eat priceless treasures of tang antiquity" 749329;1404836541;bitcoinpete;;;google rice pilaf with mircea 749330;1404836542;gribble;Breaking Out of Amber: ; Easy Overnight Cinnamon Sticky Buns - Jamie Cooks It Up: ; venue - ASRO: 749331;1404836550;mircea_popescu;then shit in a bag and put it in a permanent display at the tate. 749332;1404836551;bitcoinpete;mm sticky buns 749333;1404836583;bitcoinpete;ya that's an idea 749334;1404836596;ThickAsThieves;thatd be a dun kickstarter theme, funding destruction of historical objects 749335;1404836599;ThickAsThieves;fun* 749336;1404836631;ThickAsThieves;Buy Nazi Memorobilia and Burn It 749337;1404836637;bitcoinpete;people rarely need to be paid to do that 749338;1404836647;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.0007896 = 39.0062 BTC [-] {3} 749339;1404836648;ThickAsThieves;memorabilia* 749340;1404836659;chetty;ThickAsThieves, just give to ISIS, or the Taliban they got that down 749341;1404836660;mircea_popescu;burning nazi shit won't piss people off. 749342;1404836668;ThickAsThieves;well thats where you start 749343;1404836677;ThickAsThieves;you leave the ironic ones for next round 749344;1404836680;mircea_popescu;lol metascam 749345;1404836684;mircea_popescu;first, establish trust 749346;1404836688;mircea_popescu;then, burn the consitution. 749347;1404836725;ThickAsThieves;maybe you hate Warhol art, start buying it up and shitting on it, then sell that art 749348;1404836728;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete re 3, i could have strippers crash all his public events. the thing is... that's hostile not friendly. 749349;1404836730;chetty; then, burn the consitution.//obama beat you to it 749350;1404836781;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: myeah. taleb isn't the most sexually inclined type 749351;1404836785;bitcoinpete;he's 50+ 749352;1404836797;bitcoinpete;got a kid, divorced 749353;1404836802;bitcoinpete;now he just reads and does math 749354;1404836808;ThickAsThieves;lol 749355;1404836810;ThickAsThieves;i doubt that 749356;1404836821;chetty; he's 50+// whats that supposed to mean? 749357;1404836842;ThickAsThieves;he seems to care about his health, i bet he's steady pimpin 749358;1404836850;mircea_popescu;chetty people stop fucking at 49. haven't you heard ? 749359;1404836881;bitcoinpete;lol he probably gets off my role playing as chess pieces 749360;1404836890;bitcoinpete;*by role playing 749361;1404836909;chetty; chetty people stop fucking at 49. haven't you heard ?//do tell 749362;1404837085;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsCLDLnCEAAOosU.jpg 749363;1404837087;bitcoinpete;ok so 50+ people fuck and i'm sure taleb isn't immune to babes 749364;1404837115;bitcoinpete;but you gotta treat the guy more like a foreign dignitary/president/royal that a blogger 749365;1404837149;mircea_popescu;why ? 749366;1404837207;bitcoinpete;cuz that's how he sees himself 749367;1404837216;bitcoinpete;"While it may seem foreign now, at the time, the concept of the person as an individual flew in the face of tradition. Questioning this perspective sowed the seeds of a new worldview where tradition and social hierarchy were displaced in favor of individual pursuits." 749368;1404837253;ThickAsThieves;http://www.enomcentral.com/_images/2013/ninja-728x90.jpg 749369;1404837278;ThickAsThieves;ninja turtle mask drawn on business woman 749370;1404837294;bitcoinpete;lol 749371;1404837300;bitcoinpete;"For sixteenth- and seventeenth-century nobles, everything rested on traditional order and familial continuity." 749372;1404837360;ThickAsThieves;mp xapo is at $40m now http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/08/bitcoin-startup-xapo-valued-north-of-100-million/ 749373;1404837360;assbot;Bitcoin Startup Xapo Valued North of $100 Million - Digits - WSJ 749374;1404837458;ThickAsThieves;wences knows how to get dat funding 749375;1404837486;bitcoinpete;"Nobles explored alternatives to patriarchal ideology not because it was weakening in the seventeenth century but because its hold over them was so very strong. … Seventeenth-century aristocratic culture … placed contradictory demands on its participants, between, for instance, ideals of inheritance and of individual ambition. By the early eighteenth century, the weight of these contradictions had for many nobles become 749376;1404837486;bitcoinpete;intolerable. The more egalitarian ideologies of the eighteenth century, it may be suggested, offered resolution of contradictions that had become burdensome beyond endurance. From this vantage point, Louis XIV’s rise to power seems less a turning point than does his death." 749377;1404837498;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete so then they should snap up the VERY CHEAP mpex shares. 749378;1404837523;bitcoinpete;http://www.farnamstreetblog.com/2014/07/the-origins-of-modern-culture/ 749379;1404837523;assbot;French Nobility And The Origins of Modern Culture 749380;1404837537;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: they ? 749381;1404837541;mircea_popescu;sorry i mean ThickAsThieves so then they should snap up the VERY CHEAP mpex shares. 749382;1404837620;bitcoinpete;https://getpocket.com << 11+ million userz 749383;1404837621;assbot;Pocket 749384;1404837639;bitcoinpete;basically cross-device bookmarking 749385;1404837665;bitcoinpete;premium subs for… $45/yr 749386;1404837678;bitcoinpete;hey Pierre_Rochard 749387;1404837684;mircea_popescu;11 million free users, premium subs for 3.x a month, 580 paid users. 749388;1404837696;mircea_popescu;average paid user lifetime, 2.5 months 749389;1404837704;mircea_popescu;actual userbase revenue, ~0. 749390;1404837737;bitcoinpete;sounds right 749391;1404837745;bitcoinpete;sounds vc-funded 749392;1404837763;ThickAsThieves;maybe feedly will buy them and yahoo can buy it all 749393;1404837867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76130 @ 0.00079099 = 60.2181 BTC [+] {2} 749394;1404837870;bitcoinpete;;;ident Pierre_Rochard 749395;1404837870;gribble;Nick 'Pierre_Rochard', with hostmask 'Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@198.255.186.129', is identified as user 'Pierre_Rochard', with GPG key id E416CE33F64FCA5E, key fingerprint 3861EADB8E3A62CFD751E70BE416CE33F64FCA5E, and bitcoin address None 749396;1404837882;bitcoinpete;;;gettrust Pierre_Rochard 749397;1404837883;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Pierre@198.255.186.129. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014 749398;1404838014;Pierre_Rochard;re: taleb, if the point hasn’t already been made, isn’t the noble’s retinue paid? If you want a scholar in your court, you may have to bribe him 749399;1404838050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.0007935 = 15.4733 BTC [+] 749400;1404838118;bitcoinpete;Pierre_Rochard: he'd be pricey 749401;1404838146;ThickAsThieves;also could attempt contact via mgmt 749402;1404838148;bitcoinpete;he has what he likes to call "fuck you money" 749403;1404838153;ThickAsThieves;he might have a filter 749404;1404838310;bitcoinpete;bbl 749405;1404838340;asciilifeform;RIP xapo ? 749406;1404838843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00079514 = 20.3556 BTC [+] {3} 749407;1404839014;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard guy's rich. 749408;1404839066;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what, already ?! 749409;1404839232;ThickAsThieves;http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/07/07/329570640/more-than-50-people-were-shot-in-chicago-over-the-holiday-weekend 749410;1404839233;assbot;More Than 50 People Were Shot In Chicago Over The Holiday Weekend : The Two-Way : NPR 749411;1404839246;ThickAsThieves;The Purge: Chicago 749412;1404839267;mircea_popescu;luckily there was no armed suspect on the loose, like in the case of the boston marathon bomber. 749413;1404839274;mircea_popescu;otherwise chicago could have gotten pretty ugly. 749414;1404839330;mircea_popescu;or wait. this wasn't a case of "secret agent ran off from secret service, MUST be found. also send a message to any other agents looking to defect : we will declare martial law to find you, and we don't care if it's boston" 749415;1404839389;ThickAsThieves;shoulda stayed in corporate espionage 749416;1404839410;mircea_popescu;pays better. 749417;1404839637;mircea_popescu;"Nearly all, the Chicago Sun-Times notes, were black or Hispanic men age 35 or younger." 749418;1404839646;mircea_popescu;alternative explanation. chechens are still white. 749419;1404839659;mircea_popescu;as much as the russians would beg to differ. 749420;1404841268;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/forgotten-vials-smallpox-found-storage-room-160303452.html 749421;1404841269;assbot;Forgotten vials of smallpox found in storage room - Yahoo News 749422;1404841827;rithm;immunizations cause autism 749423;1404842013;fluffypony;rithm: penises cause babies 749424;1404842027;rithm;not by themselves 749425;1404842055;rithm;but science has proven that vaccines alone cause autism 749426;1404842173;chetty;science also claims to prove global warming 749427;1404842503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5326 @ 0.00079099 = 4.2128 BTC [-] 749428;1404842531;benkay; or wait. this wasn't a case of "secret agent ran off from secret service, MUST be found. also send a message to any other agents looking to defect : we will declare martial law to find you, and we don't care if it's boston" // waaaaat 749429;1404843674;bitstein;;;later tell bitcoinpete 120 hours a week and they still can't get their servers to stay up. https://twitter.com/niccary/status/486569107631128576 749430;1404843675;assbot;Heard from an /blockchain employee "I just wouldn't know what I would do with myself if I wasn't working 120 hours a week." Love this team 749431;1404843675;gribble;The operation succeeded. 749432;1404843751;mike_c;nobody works 120 hours a week. that is retarded. 749433;1404843785;mike_c;"i wouldn't know what to do with myself if I couldn't bench press 500 pounds" 749434;1404843804;mike_c;i'll tell you what to do. stfu, crawl in a corner, and die. 749435;1404843844;bitstein;Even if they did, I don't find it admirable in the least. 749436;1404843949;benkay;sleep more, work out, get better work done during the 30. 749437;1404843987;mike_c;if my engineers were working 120 hours a week I would be saying "we're fucked. what happened? how did we plan so poorly?" 749438;1404844017;mike_c;not acting like a tough guy on twitter. 749439;1404844050;benkay;americans can't manage - story at eleven 749440;1404845370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00079154 = 25.8438 BTC [+] 749441;1404845727;chetty;http://www.thewire.com/technology/2014/07/new-law-brings-russia-one-step-closer-to-a-closed-internet/374050/ 749442;1404845728;assbot;New Law Brings Russia One Step Closer to a 'Closed Internet' - The Wire 749443;1404845924;danielpbarron;http://dailyanarchist.com/2014/07/07/the-greatest-porcfest-ever-stolen/ 749444;1404845925;assbot;The Greatest PorcFest Ever Stolen - Daily Anarchist 749445;1404845968;danielpbarron;"My total losses are 8.37266084 BTC, which were my earnings from PorcFest, 0.12237595 BTC, which were the BEARCAT Defense Fund, and 0.26952621 BTC, which had been raised for the Authoritarian Sociopathy project." 749446;1404846099;rithm;lol 749447;1404846382;benkay;oh, poor davi. 749448;1404846404;benkay;his pins are really great. 749449;1404846434;benkay;integer btc. :( 749450;1404846476;chetty;actually events like this are a good thing, makes people more aware/more careful about security 749451;1404846593;benkay;yup. 749452;1404846756;benkay;still, i take no joy in his misfortune. 749453;1404846771;punkman;chetty, but this is the conclusion everyone seems to arrive at: "Two factor authentication is your friend. Don’t put it off." 749454;1404846854;punkman;no amount of snake oil will heal that gaping head wound 749455;1404846991;benkay;blockchain will even help attackers get around 2fa 749456;1404847078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23322 @ 0.00079099 = 18.4475 BTC [-] 749457;1404847136;chetty;!up indiancandy1 749458;1404847179;benkay;look who's back 749459;1404847281;indiancandy1;whpo 749460;1404847283;indiancandy1;who? 749461;1404847388;FabianB;$traded 749462;1404847388;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MG S.MPOE S.NSA X.EUR 749463;1404847390;fluffypony;back again 749464;1404847469;indiancandy1;TITS FOR BITCOIN? 749465;1404848433;punkman;indiancandy1: you want to see my tits? 749466;1404848511;indiancandy1;i want 2 show u myne 749467;1404848515;indiancandy1;ine xchange 749468;1404848517;indiancandy1;for moneys 749469;1404848531;fluffypony;mircea_popescu has instructionz 749470;1404848834;fluffypony;so Klye is "Giving up gambling as well as smoking cigarettes and drinking.. Trying to make a lifestyle change in order speed up my repayment and regain some honour." 749471;1404849555;mthreat;and brazil plays ze germans 749472;1404849584;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/mark-karpeles-sell-bitcoins-com-domain-name/ 749473;1404849585;assbot;Mt. Gox CEO to Auction Bitcoins.com, Share Proceeds with Creditors 749474;1404849630;ThickAsThieves;“We are hoping, with the sale of Bitcoins.com, to provide some relief to the people impacted by the Mt. Gox bankruptcy and will be putting at least half of the sale amount toward that purpose.” 749475;1404849631;ThickAsThieves;lol 749476;1404849632;ThickAsThieves;half 749477;1404849640;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00079091 = 18.3491 BTC [-] {3} 749478;1404849746;ThickAsThieves;yay! http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2a5lig/bitcoins_longest_running_scam_mpexco_lists_fake/ 749479;1404849746;assbot;Bitcoin's longest running scam Mpex.co lists fake shares of Bitpay. : Bitcoin 749480;1404849772;ThickAsThieves;weird that link is bold in my mirc 749481;1404850006;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00079006 = 6.281 BTC [-] 749482;1404850270;ThickAsThieves;http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/08/tale-coinjelly/ 749483;1404850271;assbot;The Tale of CoinJelly - Coin Fire 749484;1404850295;ThickAsThieves;small bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info 749485;1404850445;ThickAsThieves;this is good too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682150.msg7737614#msg7737614 749486;1404850445;assbot;Sonny Vleisides (Butterfly Labs CEO) 2014 Court Transcript [The TL/DR version] 749487;1404850934;pankkake;longest-running scam. I guess that's pretty good by Bitcoin standards 749488;1404851226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75195818 BTC to 11`718 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 749489;1404851243;cazalla;sweet brazilian tears 749490;1404851243;benkay;wasn't there a bitcoin version of this somewhere? http://imgur.com/rrpt70w 749491;1404851243;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 749492;1404851309;pankkake;still time to bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/992/brazil-beats-germany/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK :p 749493;1404851309;assbot;BitBet - Brazil beats Germany :: 0.33 B (41%) on Yes, 0.47 B (59%) on No | closing in 3 hours 31 minutes | weight: 14`537 (100`000 to 10`000) 749494;1404851325;kyuupichan;So much for Brazil 749495;1404851346;pankkake;it's a bet your tx is confirmed within 15min basically 749496;1404851396;kyuupichan;5-0 749497;1404851401;kyuupichan;Brazil put up the local school team 749498;1404851419;mthreat;this means argentina will play ze germans 749499;1404851425;mthreat;if they win tomorrow 749500;1404851563;pankkake;so, riots? 749501;1404851571;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves: these comments on the reddit post are gold 749502;1404851580;chetty;streets in ba should be nice and quiet while they play 749503;1404851589;thestringpuller;top comment: "He's offering a derivative with bitpay as the underlying. These are not bitpay shares." 749504;1404851630;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" http://bitbet.us/bet/992/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 41(Y):59(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.91972244 BTC. Current weight: 14,423. 749505;1404851637;kyuupichan;haha 749506;1404851650;pankkake;hey, it's valid! 749507;1404851782;pankkake;;;bc,stats 749508;1404851785;gribble;Current Blocks: 309821 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 642 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16867978245.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.29442 749509;1404851868;artifexd;It would appear that my assessment of the Germany-Brazil game was a little off... 749510;1404851931;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#747216 :) 749511;1404851932;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 749512;1404851984;kyuupichan;Damn another block makes it 749513;1404852056;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.33 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" http://bitbet.us/bet/992/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.11918977 BTC. Current weight: 14,271. 749514;1404852266;ThickAsThieves;newegg sells plants? weird 749515;1404852281;ThickAsThieves;dang they sell all kindsa shit 749516;1404852375;kyuupichan;Half time 749517;1404852381;kyuupichan;What happens to bets during half time? 749518;1404852414;cazalla;refunded i would guess 749519;1404852486;ThickAsThieves;they are donated to Ross Ulbricht 749520;1404852587;kyuupichan;Had Muller gotten more than 1 of the goals, the "scorer > 7" bet would suddenly get very interesting 749521;1404852652;cazalla;there is still time 749522;1404852873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00079006 = 15.6827 BTC [-] 749523;1404852995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00079144 = 11.555 BTC [+] 749524;1404853185;assbot;WasWoWieviel +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 749525;1404853196;kyuupichan;No blocks during half time so I guess it didn't matter 749526;1404853239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23535 @ 0.00078886 = 18.5658 BTC [-] {3} 749527;1404853422;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10985 @ 0.00078818 = 8.6582 BTC [-] 749528;1404853422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 49 @ 0.0135 = 0.6615 BTC [-] 749529;1404853727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47750 @ 0.00078584 = 37.5239 BTC [-] {3} 749530;1404853929;pankkake;;;tslb 749531;1404853934;gribble;Time since last block: 33 minutes and 11 seconds 749532;1404854123;FabianB;!t m s.mpoe 749533;1404854124;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078551 / 0.00079161 / 0.00079785 (1205540 shares, 954.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00078551 / 0.00080677 / 0.00083016 (5577760 shares, 4,499.97 BTC), 30D: 0.00077312 / 0.00082135 / 0.00087778 (26095912 shares, 21,433.95 BTC) 749534;1404854154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 41 @ 0.01705 = 0.6991 BTC [-] 749535;1404854242;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" http://bitbet.us/bet/992/ Odds: 3(Y):97(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.11868977 BTC. Current weight: 13,489. 749536;1404854243;[]bot;Bet placed: 4.9995 BTC for No on "Brazil beats Germany" http://bitbet.us/bet/992/ Odds: 3(Y):97(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.11868977 BTC. Current weight: 13,489. 749537;1404854261;FabianB;guess they're late 749538;1404854549;pankkake;hahaha 749539;1404855069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00078551 = 35.0337 BTC [-] 749540;1404855080;thestringpuller;lol MPOE 749541;1404855089;thestringpuller;money is flowing out of it 749542;1404855095;thestringpuller;!ticker m D.BPAY 749543;1404855095;assbot;[MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.23999999 / 0.24483091 / 0.25 (207 shares, 50.68 BTC) 749544;1404855418;punkman;these germans just can't stop 749545;1404855602;benkay;!t m s.mpoe 749546;1404855603;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078551 / 0.00079139 / 0.00079785 (1250140 shares, 989.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00078551 / 0.0008065 / 0.00083016 (5587301 shares, 4,506.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00077312 / 0.00082127 / 0.00087778 (26130099 shares, 21,460.13 BTC) 749547;1404856500;kakobrekla; WasWoWieviel +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 < and nobody dared to voice him eh ? 749548;1404856566;jurov;kakobrekla he did not wait 749549;1404856677;kakobrekla;ah 749550;1404856841;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 749551;1404856850;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 625.55, vol: 2671.31663899 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 618.998, vol: 2419.98972 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 625.1, vol: 2985.84647666 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 622.394812, vol: 4765.42400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 617.03703, vol: 1.43869931 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 623.448174, vol: 37.2054963 | Volume-weighted last average: 623.04048175 749552;1404856851;BingoBoingo;;;more 749553;1404856851;gribble;Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 749554;1404858852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25729 @ 0.0007853 = 20.205 BTC [-] {2} 749555;1404858967;mircea_popescu;whoa brazil got massacred 749556;1404859095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 121 @ 0.01634889 = 1.9782 BTC [-] {5} 749557;1404859224;thestringpuller;ls 749558;1404859404;mircea_popescu;;;calc 120/7 749559;1404859404;gribble;17.1428571429 749560;1404859416;mircea_popescu;orly. 17 hours and 10 minutes a day ? 749561;1404859448;mircea_popescu;mike_c: i'll tell you what to do. stfu, crawl in a corner, and die. << i take it you're not working 120 hours a week on wol ? 749562;1404859451;mircea_popescu;FOR SHAEM 749563;1404859491;mircea_popescu;!up Ginux 749564;1404859502;mircea_popescu;!up hello 749565;1404859541;mircea_popescu;!up ll 749566;1404859555;mircea_popescu;!up los_pantalones 749567;1404859568;mircea_popescu;!up Menno 749568;1404859586;mircea_popescu;!up Quanttek 749569;1404859596;mircea_popescu;!up rodgort 749570;1404859615;mircea_popescu;!up toddf 749571;1404859699;mircea_popescu;punkman: no amount of snake oil will heal that gaping head wound < < sadly, this is true. 749572;1404859779;mircea_popescu;lol "Hint: The "D" in the ticker symbol stands for "derivative"." 749573;1404859795;mircea_popescu;yeah, because the DERPs header on the page is not indicative. 749574;1404859923;mircea_popescu;;;unrate HoreaV 749575;1404859924;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for HoreaV. 749576;1404860071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54400 @ 0.00078386 = 42.642 BTC [-] {4} 749577;1404860297;mircea_popescu;"To give you some idea, at PorcFest last year our booth took in about 3 Bitcoin all week. At the time Bitcoin was about $100. This year I took in 3 Bitcoin the first day, when Bitcoin was about $600. By the end of the week we had earned over 8 Bitcoin for our various commercial and non-profit partners, which is a windfall I could hardly believe." 749578;1404860305;mircea_popescu;heh. mkay. 749579;1404860350;danielpbarron;turns out, I made more BTC at porcfest than the muslim agorist 749580;1404860364;kakobrekla;"We also collected some doge, but nobody was willing to steal those." 749581;1404860393;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron i closed at the "i borrowed a clothesline" 749582;1404860399;mircea_popescu;i guess i just don't get bum culture. 749583;1404860426;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla doge is like fiat, you don't have to have it stolen from you for it to be stolen from you. 749584;1404860444;kakobrekla;:) 749585;1404860458;danielpbarron;I saw that guy; didn't end up talking to him; he seemed kinda boring 749586;1404860481;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: mall bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info << who is this mike ? 749587;1404860497;danielpbarron;but it was pretty cool how he had child labor operation to sell his buttons 749588;1404860681;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves still got a tardstalk acct btw ? 749589;1404861061;mircea_popescu;"Q. The Monarch BPU was said to begin shipping at the end of 2013. Has that happened? 749590;1404861061;mircea_popescu;A. No." 749591;1404861062;mircea_popescu;ahjahaha 749592;1404861078;mircea_popescu;o bfl is shipping. find out it's not from Bitbet in 2013, from the courts in 2014. le win. 749593;1404861088;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 749594;1404861098;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 you've still not figured out this wot thing ? 749595;1404861169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.01431345 = 0.7443 BTC [+] {4} 749596;1404861367;mircea_popescu;artifexd: It would appear that my assessment of the Germany-Brazil game was a little off... << it happens :p 749597;1404861404;punkman;"Now, there is a stench coming from Butterfly Labs. It's a strong smell. It's not enough to send you to prison today" 749598;1404861453;mircea_popescu;punkman "Prison Today" sounds like a great replacement for Time mag. 749599;1404861482;mircea_popescu;if i were buffett, ie, in any way emotionally invested in the continuation of that republic, i'd definitely make it. 749600;1404861484;punkman;I can picture that 749601;1404861595;mircea_popescu;https://www.startjoin.com/comments/project/trollc << yet another thing max keiser promises then fails to follow through 749602;1404861636;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'большая зона' 749603;1404861671;mircea_popescu;quite 749604;1404861688;mircea_popescu;here's a business idea : take failed projects, trim down the text, make kickstarter projects out of them 749605;1404861692;mircea_popescu;one could start with say urbit 749606;1404861717;mircea_popescu;just hire indians to select and summarize, could pump out 50-100 science-y or tech-y sounding projects a week 749607;1404861719;asciilifeform;urbit already found its chumpatronium golden vein 749608;1404861740;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform done in the manner of the cryptostocks listing of that casino game tho 749609;1404861745;mircea_popescu;w/o any involvement from the owner. 749610;1404861766;mircea_popescu;just, google for projects with verbiage, trim it down, "kickstart" it 749611;1404861794;mircea_popescu;10-20 hours's worth of unskilled labour per project. 749612;1404861802;mircea_popescu;no WAY you don't get 1mn in 100. 749613;1404861826;mircea_popescu;that's 50x your investment. 749614;1404861889;mircea_popescu;intel: man, probation officer asked vleisades if he'd let fbi agents tour his facility to "learn more about bitcoin".... pukeatronic <<< methinks that's a point. 749615;1404861906;mircea_popescu;waiting for bfl product delivery ? watch out for bonus goodies on the board from now on... 749616;1404861918;punkman;hah 749617;1404861925;*;asciilifeform wants one now 749618;1404861937;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not now. later/. 749619;1404861960;mircea_popescu;in 5 years you'll prolly be able to buy them for the cost of disposal. 749620;1404861970;mircea_popescu;buy a containerful, diagnose the full spectrum. 749621;1404861990;asciilifeform;at that point it will be worth about as much as those cars parked at Pripyat. 749622;1404862025;asciilifeform;archaeologists will find them. 749623;1404862034;mircea_popescu;you think ? 749624;1404862039;mircea_popescu;hey, maybe. 749625;1404862267;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.00078156 = 25.3616 BTC [-] 749626;1404862274;mircea_popescu;of course on the other hand, if you're a honest bitcoin miner you got nothing to worry about. 749627;1404862353;indiancandy1;who wants to see my big tits 749628;1404862454;mircea_popescu;did you ever see saffron's vids ? 749629;1404862470;asciilifeform;a miner's a perfect place to hide some strange. esp. in the extant ones, where performance is 'variable' to put it mildly. but really, it is perfect on account of the fact that a miner board is forgotten very soon after it is sold 749630;1404862478;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 ^ 749631;1404862484;asciilifeform;no one seriously cares what was in the fpga miners from 2 yrs. ago 749632;1404862486;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform definitely. 749633;1404862507;mircea_popescu;custom hardware by definition, who the hell is going to even know. 749634;1404862519;mircea_popescu;kinda trivial to find strange on high standardised stuff. 749635;1404862572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 88 @ 0.0144 = 1.2672 BTC [+] {2} 749636;1404862673;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 do you read stuff here ? 749637;1404862771;indiancandy1;i sent u a message 749638;1404862773;indiancandy1;mp 749639;1404862779;indiancandy1;what is this saffron vids 749640;1404862785;indiancandy1;i do read it 749641;1404862785;mircea_popescu;!s dropbox 749642;1404862786;assbot;38 results for 'dropbox' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=dropbox 749643;1404862787;indiancandy1;lol 749644;1404862791;indiancandy1;i duno what it is 749645;1404862801;mircea_popescu;hm klets see 749646;1404862803;indiancandy1;dropbox is safron? 749647;1404862809;mircea_popescu;!s from:sexysaffron dropbox.com* 749648;1404862809;assbot;0 results for 'from:sexysaffron dropbox.com*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Asexysaffron+dropbox.com%2A 749649;1404862812;mircea_popescu;!s from:sexysaffron dropbox.com 749650;1404862813;assbot;0 results for 'from:sexysaffron dropbox.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Asexysaffron+dropbox.com 749651;1404862820;mircea_popescu;ah come on. 749652;1404862824;mircea_popescu;!s from:sexysaffron dropb* 749653;1404862824;assbot;0 results for 'from:sexysaffron dropb*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Asexysaffron+dropb%2A 749654;1404862854;indiancandy1;i really want to get into bitcoin 749655;1404862858;indiancandy1;i read stuff 749656;1404862861;punkman;!s from:sexy_saffron dropbox* 749657;1404862862;assbot;1 results for 'from:sexy_saffron dropbox*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Asexy_saffron+dropbox%2A 749658;1404862864;indiancandy1;i dont understand none of it 749659;1404862867;mircea_popescu;should be two tho. 749660;1404862871;mircea_popescu;!s 203 749661;1404862872;assbot;62 results for '203' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=203 749662;1404862878;mircea_popescu;herp. 749663;1404862886;mircea_popescu;THIS FAILS. 749664;1404862887;indiancandy1;safron is dropbox 749665;1404862891;indiancandy1;and dropbx begs 749666;1404862893;indiancandy1;ahaha 749667;1404862899;indiancandy1;okay? 749668;1404862914;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/g58mpit4p5zms4l/203.mp4 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqd51lvo64cof15/202.mp4 749669;1404862915;assbot;Dropbox - 203.mp4 749670;1404862916;assbot;Dropbox - 202.mp4 749671;1404862954;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 749672;1404862968;mircea_popescu;or i guess https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/status/486305081029955586 if you don't have the connection for heavy duty vids. 749673;1404862969;assbot;Here's a video of me begging /nntaleb to join /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets : http://t.co/lD0pcqv9fu NSFW" 749674;1404863044;indiancandy1;is she ur slave girl 749675;1404863047;indiancandy1;shes ugly 749676;1404863049;indiancandy1;no offence 749677;1404863053;indiancandy1;lol 749678;1404863060;indiancandy1;i wouldnt eat her out 749679;1404863091;indiancandy1;i got more folowers 749680;1404863092;indiancandy1;on twitter 749681;1404863095;indiancandy1;BOOM 749682;1404863098;indiancandy1;by 9800 749683;1404863105;indiancandy1;not that it makes me any richer 749684;1404863106;indiancandy1;:( 749685;1404863113;mircea_popescu;ok, so ready to make a beg video ? 749686;1404863127;indiancandy1;ahaha if the indian media get hold of it though 749687;1404863135;indiancandy1;it wil be on times of india 749688;1404863136;mircea_popescu;you'll be famous 749689;1404863136;indiancandy1;website 749690;1404863139;mircea_popescu;pubicity is publicity. 749691;1404863149;indiancandy1;my agents wont be happy 749692;1404863155;indiancandy1;how much u offering for it 749693;1404863158;mircea_popescu;fire them, hire better ones. 749694;1404863167;indiancandy1;i can get u 749695;1404863169;mircea_popescu;same i did her, provided your vid doesn't suck. 749696;1404863181;indiancandy1;lots of ppl as i got a big following 749697;1404863196;indiancandy1;she got 168 twitter followrs 749698;1404863198;indiancandy1;i have 749699;1404863200;ThickAsThieves;<+indiancandy1> no offence /// lol 749700;1404863202;mircea_popescu;it really makes little diff, if you notice that tweet got like 2.2k retrweets. 749701;1404863242;indiancandy1;how much did give her 749702;1404863242;asciilifeform;time for gedankenexperiment. what payload would be 'useful' in a miner core (vs. the controller, which is normally a standard micro and relatively simple to audit) ? 749703;1404863244;indiancandy1;did u give her 749704;1404863250;indiancandy1;listen i can get u a better deal 749705;1404863251;asciilifeform;i say: patterned outages. 749706;1404863256;indiancandy1;il give u publicity 749707;1404863258;indiancandy1;in india 749708;1404863264;indiancandy1;on all top digital platforms 749709;1404863273;indiancandy1;in india not many ppl no about btc 749710;1404863286;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves: mall bitblog factchecks while bigger names run with false info << who is this mike ? //// dunno, that blog was also fairly on top of all the SR auction updates. guy's not afraid to pick up a phone or something 749711;1404863289;indiancandy1;so it wil be good especially if it goes on times of india / yahooo 749712;1404863290;indiancandy1;etc 749713;1404863299;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves got his phone number ? 749714;1404863320;indiancandy1;why dont we introduce 749715;1404863328;indiancandy1;bitcoin 2 india il do u a pr campain 749716;1404863329;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves still got a tardstalk acct btw ? /// it exists, sometimes i check on my watchlist or click in thru reddit, otherwise i dont go there 749717;1404863339;asciilifeform;if you can arrange for, say, the entire crop of 'bfl' units to spin their wheels fruitlessly during known time intervals, your own miners (presumably exempt) can be scheduled to run then and precisely then 749718;1404863352;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 what difference does it make ? i want the guy to join here, i don't care about a bunch of indians that have no bitcoin. 749719;1404863365;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a gps ? 749720;1404863374;indiancandy1;they can buy 749721;1404863374;indiancandy1;it 749722;1404863379;ThickAsThieves;"Coin Fire was started because I got sick and tired of reading reviews on sites that were full of advertisements, dishonest statements and news that was just posted to create link bait." 749723;1404863399;ThickAsThieves;https://twitter.com/CoinFireBlog 749724;1404863401;assbot;CoinFire.cf (CoinFireBlog) auf Twitter 749725;1404863412;ThickAsThieves;i dont have his ph# and his website only has contact forms 749726;1404863416;indiancandy1;tell me how much moneys u gave safron 749727;1404863423;mircea_popescu;anyone with a btctalk acct : pls to pm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112431 and invite him to come here. his summary of vleisides was useful. 749728;1404863423;assbot;View the profile of colinistheman 749729;1404863425;mircea_popescu;!up qwe213zxc 749730;1404863440;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves how do you know he's not affraid to pick up the phone then ? 749731;1404863447;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 .1 749732;1404863453;asciilifeform;gps < difficult - but not impossible - to fit. and what'd be the point? throttle the core unless standing in warehouse XX? 749733;1404863453;ThickAsThieves;i meant check his facts, dig for info 749734;1404863467;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform just know where to confiscate it from. 749735;1404863472;mircea_popescu;or not let it be exported, mysteriously. 749736;1404863480;mircea_popescu;making the miners stop is useless economically. 749737;1404863483;indiancandy1;i duno btc 749738;1404863489;indiancandy1;what is that in dollars 749739;1404863491;mircea_popescu;!up lil_data_ 749740;1404863492;ThickAsThieves;breaking@coinfire.cf is email 749741;1404863510;asciilifeform;if you can stop all miners but yours - for a given interval - you can plunder blocks at far below the expected energy cost 749742;1404863524;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 i have no idea, whatever whoever is normally buying them from you pays for a bitcoin, divided by 10 749743;1404863526;ThickAsThieves;https://twitter.com/CoinFireBlog/status/486609467560034306 coinjelly asks for private chat with him , hehe 749744;1404863527;assbot;The tale of /CoinJelly, false statements and journalistic failures: http://t.co/uLpRJfFBaV 749745;1404863530;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so ? 749746;1404863567;mircea_popescu;diff is stil the same, how do you think this helps you ? longer blocks ? 749747;1404863604;ThickAsThieves;would need to hold it for a month 749748;1404863611;indiancandy1;.1 bitcoin 749749;1404863612;indiancandy1;is 749750;1404863614;indiancandy1;1 bitcoin 749751;1404863615;indiancandy1;? 749752;1404863621;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1 / .1 749753;1404863622;gribble;10 749754;1404863625;asciilifeform;point wouldn't be to drop the diff, but to ensure that next block goes to one of yours 749755;1404863632;asciilifeform;alternatively 749756;1404863633;mircea_popescu;"ensure" 749757;1404863651;asciilifeform;throttle far below full capacity unless magic signal is present 749758;1404863657;indiancandy1;ur offering me 65 dollars 749759;1404863660;indiancandy1;for that vid 749760;1404863660;indiancandy1;? 749761;1404863661;mircea_popescu;people would notice and fix it 749762;1404863662;indiancandy1;haha 749763;1404863666;indiancandy1;thats funn 749764;1404863668;indiancandy1;funny 749765;1404863671;indiancandy1;2 less money 749766;1404863673;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 welcome to the world of hard work. 749767;1404863676;asciilifeform;so, e.g., everybody gets x hash/sec, you get 2x 749768;1404863688;indiancandy1;do u work hard? 749769;1404863693;mircea_popescu;you're not me. 749770;1404863701;mike_c;if you're not working 120 hours/week you're lazy. 749771;1404863706;ThickAsThieves;amen! 749772;1404863713;indiancandy1;i work on a tv show 749773;1404863716;mircea_popescu;;;calc 120 * .1 * 52 749774;1404863716;gribble;624 749775;1404863728;asciilifeform;people would notice, fix << i know a fellow with a 'jupiter' miner. most of the time, only a subset of the cores run. fix is nowhere to be seen. 749776;1404863728;mircea_popescu;that's almost enough to invest in bitcoin start-ups 749777;1404863738;indiancandy1;gribble says 624 is that the conversion 749778;1404863739;indiancandy1;? 749779;1404863743;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i never heard of a jupiter run 100% 749780;1404863749;asciilifeform;precisely. 749781;1404863750;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 749782;1404863751;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.16, Best ask: 625.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.84000, Last trade: 624.97, 24 hour volume: 2675.59845636, 24 hour low: 616.89, 24 hour high: 626.22, 24 hour vwap: 621.952540785 749783;1404863755;mircea_popescu;there 749784;1404863759;asciilifeform;can be accident, or 'accident' 749785;1404863763;indiancandy1;mp 749786;1404863765;mircea_popescu;eh get out 749787;1404863768;indiancandy1;one second 749788;1404863770;mircea_popescu;jupiters are made with an axe 749789;1404863775;indiancandy1;is it 624 dollars 749790;1404863784;ThickAsThieves;i heard jupiters have anthrax in them 749791;1404863792;mircea_popescu;derpiters 749792;1404863808;asciilifeform;intel's been doing precisely this in cpus since '486 dx' - why not other people? 749793;1404863822;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 no woman. the chick did two vids for like 60 bux each. it's what she does. 749794;1404863853;mike_c;can anybody recommend an irc bouncer. 749795;1404863853;indiancandy1;hmm 749796;1404863867;indiancandy1;shes better of doin mfc she can earn more money 749797;1404863918;BingoBoingo;lol, indiancandy1 you forget the time value of money 749798;1404863935;ThickAsThieves;and the value of relationships 749799;1404863944;kakobrekla;mike_c znc 749800;1404863949;mike_c;thx 749801;1404863951;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 what's mfc ? 749802;1404863958;BingoBoingo;myfreecams 749803;1404863967;BingoBoingo;I know it because... porn 749804;1404863980;mircea_popescu;so i take it the free part is scam ? 749805;1404863988;ThickAsThieves;adz 749806;1404863991;ThickAsThieves;i assume 749807;1404863991;mircea_popescu;aok. 749808;1404863996;mircea_popescu;is chatroulette still a thing ? 749809;1404864012;BingoBoingo;chatroulette was basically just dicks 749810;1404864013;indiancandy1;no 749811;1404864016;ThickAsThieves;the site everyone visits once 749812;1404864031;indiancandy1;chatroulete now has a verification method so not many people use it 749813;1404864048;indiancandy1;you have to register with ur cell phone number and they send u a code on sms and 749814;1404864053;mircea_popescu;lol know your masturbator us congress legislation ? 749815;1404864064;indiancandy1;thats how you enter its to keep the pedos out 749816;1404864072;mircea_popescu;uh 749817;1404864078;mircea_popescu;pedos can't get cellphones ? 749818;1404864086;indiancandy1;they was a overflow of pedofiles lurking for lil girls 749819;1404864108;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: use cell, leave gps ping. 749820;1404864130;indiancandy1;there was a big ring of pedofiles on there 749821;1404864132;mircea_popescu;now that's a disruptive service someone should do. decentralize sms identification. 749822;1404864135;mircea_popescu;like tor, but for sms. 749823;1404864144;asciilifeform;(technically not simply gps, but tower triangulation on top) 749824;1404864161;BingoBoingo;I thought most cellphones did a mix of the two 749825;1404864167;indiancandy1;well then f you get in trouble ad u call the cops and they need 2 find u how wil they find u 749826;1404864168;asciilifeform;aye 749827;1404864173;indiancandy1;its good and bad 749828;1404864199;asciilifeform;all current cell chipsets use gps+tower 749829;1404864204;BingoBoingo;I thought if you got into trouble you called the Bondsman because the cops were there 749830;1404864221;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/08/dollar-backed-digital-currency-aims-to-fix-bitcoins-volatility-dilemma/ 749831;1404864221;assbot;Dollar-Backed Digital Currency Aims to Fix Bitcoins Volatility Dilemma - MoneyBeat - WSJ 749832;1404864233;ThickAsThieves;brought to you by Brock Pierce 749833;1404864237;indiancandy1;i mean like if a girls being raped or something then it comes handy 749834;1404864252;mircea_popescu; I thought if you got into trouble you called the Bondsman because the cops were there << not everyone is from chicago. 749835;1404864259;indiancandy1;lol 749836;1404864262;BingoBoingo;You still call the Bondsman, because they actually "solve the problem" 749837;1404864264;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that guy really gets things. 749838;1404864265;mircea_popescu;up his ass. 749839;1404864294;ThickAsThieves;Realcoin 749840;1404864298;ThickAsThieves;lel 749841;1404864299;asciilifeform;pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed. 749842;1404864312;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3CN496W.txt ) 749843;1404864312;BingoBoingo;!b 1 749844;1404864316;ThickAsThieves;"Founded by Brock Pierce, a former Disney child actor who is now a prolific bitcoin investor" ouch 749845;1404864332;indiancandy1;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/06/rolling-coal-photos-video_n_5561477.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular 749846;1404864332;assbot;Political Protest Or Just Blowing Smoke? Anti-Environmentalists Are Now 'Rolling Coal' 749847;1404864336;punkman;"the first dollar-backed digital currency" 749848;1404864352;ThickAsThieves;and biggest! 749849;1404864366;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves notice that's sorta started to go away ? 749850;1404864381;ThickAsThieves;"Realcoin will use a Bitcoin 2.0 software protocol known as Mastercoin" the pain! 749851;1404864403;punkman;it's not even dollars, "To ensure realcoins retain their value at one dollar, the firm will maintain a real-time record of its dollar-based reserves, all held in conservative investments" 749852;1404864426;indiancandy1;so do you think i should invest in btc 749853;1404864429;ThickAsThieves;"Asked about such a reaction, Realcoin founder Mr. Pierce said, “I’m not selling any of my bitcoins. " 749854;1404864440;ThickAsThieves;these people 749855;1404864456;ThickAsThieves;no one told them the onion was a joke? 749856;1404864530;indiancandy1;it gets me angry that i dont understand what ur talking about but i think 749857;1404864541;indiancandy1;im addicted to this place i have no reason to be here so why am i here 749858;1404864543;mircea_popescu;bitcoin 2.0 protocol mastercoin ?! 749859;1404864545;indiancandy1;GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 749860;1404864548;mircea_popescu;someone got indigestion. 749861;1404864583;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 well, you've found the real world and now are trying to convince yourself you don't have to change to adapt to it. 749862;1404864632;Duffer1;it's worth your time to hang around 749863;1404864670;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/00Y5Y1V.txt ) 749864;1404864670;BingoBoingo;!b 5 749865;1404864779;Duffer1;!up indiancandy1 749866;1404864883;decimation;re: "anti-environmentalists" << a true anti-environmentalist would construct a chumpatron to bleed environmentalist chumps 749867;1404864922;decimation;i.e. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/solar-roadways 749868;1404864922;assbot;Solar Roadways | Indiegogo 749869;1404864946;asciilifeform;decimation: this is SOP already 749870;1404864955;asciilifeform;solar farms, windmills, etc. 749871;1404864962;asciilifeform;and anything else with -EV 749872;1404864982;decimation;"imma make you environmental technology, email me monies" 749873;1404864992;indiancandy1;duffer its worth my time 749874;1404864993;indiancandy1;? 749875;1404865007;decimation;I suspect it's quite simple to recruit a staff of chumps to maintain the public propaganda machine too 749876;1404865009;indiancandy1;okay well wil someone atleast teach me so i understand 749877;1404865119;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 what part don't you understand ? 749878;1404865121;decimation;In case no one has seen: http://qz.com/231178/the-tragic-explosive-crash-of-a-stolen-tesla/ << some dumbfuck stole a tesla model S, rammed a pole at ~100 mph, cut the car in half; it caught fire 749879;1404865123;assbot;The tragic, explosive crash of a stolen Tesla – Quartz 749880;1404865147;mircea_popescu;wow. 749881;1404865232;BingoBoingo;indiancandy1: Right now is the time for lingering reading and asking questions, understanding come later. 749882;1404865277;asciilifeform;countdown to the 'remote disable switch' advocates pushing their shit... 749883;1404865285;danielpbarron;!up colinistheman 749884;1404865298;colinistheman;Hi guys. I was invited to this chat. I posted the bitcointalk forum thread on Sonny Vleisides (BFL CEO) 749885;1404865313;mircea_popescu;hey there! 749886;1404865318;mircea_popescu;you did a nice job. 749887;1404865341;indiancandy1;omg 749888;1404865348;indiancandy1;i nearly had a heart attack 749889;1404865350;colinistheman;Thank you mircea_popescu 749890;1404865356;colinistheman;I got your message in that chat log 749891;1404865357;BingoBoingo;Hey colinistheman that was me sent the message. Love your BFL thread. 749892;1404865361;indiancandy1;my name is sofia vasiliadis 749893;1404865364;mircea_popescu;colinistheman what do you do for a living ? 749894;1404865368;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 no wai ? 749895;1404865371;indiancandy1;and i just scan read what colin said 749896;1404865376;indiancandy1;and i thought he said my name 749897;1404865377;indiancandy1;ahahh 749898;1404865380;mircea_popescu;that's some scammer guy named vleisides 749899;1404865381;indiancandy1;my heart sunk 749900;1404865395;colinistheman;I'm glad you found it helpful. I did too. A lot of good information in that court transcript. 749901;1404865407;colinistheman;I realized a lot of people wouldn't read through to find the best parts 749902;1404865478;colinistheman;mircea_popescu: By the way if you, or others want to join the class action lawsuit, it is here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners 749903;1404865479;assbot;Butterfly Labs and BF Labs, Inc. Bitcoin Miners | Wood Law Firm 749904;1404865492;colinistheman;There are about 50 people already in on it 749905;1404865495;BingoBoingo;Well, mircea_popescu and kakobrekla 's BitBet was especially injurious to BFL last year 749906;1404865496;colinistheman;I am spreading the word 749907;1404865500;mircea_popescu;colinistheman http://trilema.com/2013/preemptive-strike-to-have-on-hand-for-when-butterfly-labs-gets-hauled-off-to-jail-in-corpore/ wink 749908;1404865501;assbot;Preemptive strike, to have on hand for when Butterfly Labs gets hauled off to jail in corpore pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 749909;1404865516;BingoBoingo;;;google BitBet BFL to deliver by February 749910;1404865518;gribble;BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st :: 791.29 B ...: ; Vote: Do you think Butterfly Labs will deliver their ASICs this ...: ; BitBet, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: wow. /// simple GS strat, spend $120k on a Tesla, short TSLA, crash it. Works every time! 749938;1404865867;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves konspiraci ? 749939;1404865881;ThickAsThieves;i was counting on it! 749940;1404865909;BingoBoingo;Knives are cool. 749941;1404865923;colinistheman;I don't sell the BTC either. It's kept in BTC form 749942;1404865926;ThickAsThieves;but really there were 2 crashes and the other had most of a family die i think 749943;1404865929;colinistheman;unlike most bitpay merchants 749944;1404865954;colinistheman;I'm reading your article. Very interesting 749945;1404865962;ThickAsThieves;a plastic surgeon rear-ended a toyota 749946;1404865989;colinistheman;mircea_popescu: You had stated that my summary was useful. I'm very glad. May I ask how it assisted you? 749947;1404866025;mircea_popescu;colinistheman me personally it did not, i have people whose job it is to do these things. your summary however was quite close to mine, which is the mark of achievement. 749948;1404866071;BingoBoingo;colinistheman: I found a broken link http://www.knives4bitcoin.com/products/colt_knives_pocket_knife_titanium_420hc_high_carbon_ct341_camping_fishing_hunter.php 749949;1404866072;assbot;KnivesAndKnifeMaking.com - Colt Knives Pocket Knife Titanium 420HC High Carbon CT341 Camping Fishing Hunter 749950;1404866072;colinistheman;Most excellent. Yeah, I'm fairly literate and have a few brain cells to knock together 749951;1404866093;colinistheman;Thank you I will have to fix that ASAP 749952;1404866102;BingoBoingo;Hmmm... None of your product page links seem to be working for me... 749953;1404866102;ThickAsThieves;mp's plot to hide the andreas murder weapon 749954;1404866109;mircea_popescu;http://www.knives4bitcoin.com/products/ << this is kinda lulzy 749955;1404866110;assbot;Index of /products 749956;1404866126;mircea_popescu;they all seem broken ? 749957;1404866156;ThickAsThieves;doesnt work for me much 749958;1404866227;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 749959;1404866228;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 16871343199.9 based on data since last change | 17660844532.9 based on data for last three days 749960;1404866252;colinistheman;Oh wow, they're temporarily down. I re-upped the site recently. 749961;1404866269;mircea_popescu;!up site 749962;1404866274;colinistheman;try now 749963;1404866277;colinistheman;I think I just fixed up 749964;1404866279;colinistheman;*it 749965;1404866311;colinistheman;One missing file can cause a lot of probs :) 749966;1404866350;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo would you like one ? 749967;1404866362;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sure 749968;1404866364;mircea_popescu;fluffypony how about i gift you a knife ? 749969;1404866368;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo pick something 749970;1404866396;kakobrekla;you kill babies with this ? http://www.knives4bitcoin.com/products/5-14in_knife_making_blade_mini_hunter_blank_custom_game_hunting_blanks_knives.php 749971;1404866398;assbot;Knives4Bitcoin.com - 5-1/4in Knife Making Blade Mini Hunter Blank Custom Game Hunting Blanks Knives 749972;1404866432;BingoBoingo;I'm really liking this. http://www.knives4bitcoin.com/products/colt_knives_pocket_knife_titanium_420hc_high_carbon_ct341_camping_fishing_hunter.php 749973;1404866432;assbot;Knives4Bitcoin.com - Colt Knives Pocket Knife Titanium 420HC High Carbon CT341 Camping Fishing Hunter 749974;1404866444;cazalla;indiancandy1: i would bet sexysaffron would do 100 times better than you on mfc 749975;1404866446;mircea_popescu;colinistheman how come everything's 5 bitcents ?! 749976;1404866492;colinistheman;I just have it round to the nearest 2 decimal places for sake of neatness 749977;1404866495;mircea_popescu;for that matter, bitpay says "If it seems like there should be something here, please let us know by contacting our support team." 749978;1404866497;colinistheman;otherwise it looks like a huge big number 749979;1404866505;kakobrekla;because they are all sized for keychains 749980;1404866506;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla do you like knives ? 749981;1404866524;kakobrekla;nah not really. 749982;1404866549;colinistheman;You can sort by price and see items which are more than 5 bit cents. Back to reading the article 749983;1404866553;colinistheman;beep me if needed 749984;1404866603;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 749985;1404866643;kakobrekla;i have a few of those swiss army knifes i got as gifts and they satisfy all my cutting needs 749986;1404866650;mircea_popescu;cazalla who're you gonna bet against lol. 749987;1404866660;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao 749988;1404866664;indiancandy1;please dont bet me 749989;1404866666;indiancandy1;coz 749990;1404866670;indiancandy1;i do pretty well on mfc 749991;1404866682;indiancandy1;im better looking 749992;1404866711;asciilifeform;mfc << microshit foundation class?! 749993;1404866739;punkman;cam contest? 749994;1404866769;BingoBoingo;!up indiancandy1 749995;1404866774;dub;i cut stuff 749996;1404866808;indiancandy1;it just craches on me 749997;1404866809;indiancandy1;:( 749998;1404866812;indiancandy1;crashed 749999;1404866817;mircea_popescu;dub ya but you're a global warming alarmist 750000;1404866823;indiancandy1;unless she goes further then me i dont use toys 750001;1404866827;cazalla;indiancandy1: looks don't have much to do with mfc imo 750002;1404866827;indiancandy1;and hardly show pussy either 750003;1404866830;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 im sure she does anything. 750004;1404866846;colinistheman;By the way, this may interest you, mircea_popescu. I posted the following information on BFL's forum and it got deleted. It was a detailed recording of a series of events in the Monarch production timeline. This post got deleted from their forums but I kept a backup because I knew it would. Then I was banned from the forums after providing a lawyer link to every member on BFL forums. 750005;1404866848;colinistheman;http://knives4bitcoin.com/BFL_Late_Monarch_and_How_to_Handle_it._Josh,_as_COO,_I_request_your_reply_to_this.htm 750006;1404866851;assbot;BFL Late Monarch and How to Handle it. Josh, as COO, I request your reply to this. 750007;1404866851;indiancandy1;im anti sex toys 750008;1404866872;mircea_popescu;colinistheman maybe time to make a blog ? 750009;1404866888;mircea_popescu;or maybe join an existing one. possibly mike_c may want a hard hitting research editor for btcalpha 750010;1404866893;colinistheman;It's a good idea but I don't have the time. I managed to scrap together these few things. 750011;1404866907;colinistheman;I think there would be a good market for a promoted domain and blog for BFL fraud info though. 750012;1404866929;mircea_popescu;use it or lose it. 750013;1404866932;kakobrekla;who are you trying to save? 750014;1404866938;colinistheman;jesus 750015;1404866953;kakobrekla;jesus has been saved already. 750016;1404866962;colinistheman;oh, then bfl customers 750017;1404866972;mike_c;if you do want a blog platform I'd be happy to post things for you on btcalpha with appropriate attribution. 750018;1404866972;kakobrekla;right. 750019;1404866981;BingoBoingo;No, Jesus died to save, but if you save Jesus... it would really mess with the Xtians 750020;1404866985;kakobrekla;you can rape them with evidence, they dont budge. 750021;1404866997;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla fudster. 750022;1404867002;kakobrekla;i meant saved as in ctrl-s 750023;1404867007;colinistheman;True, but it increases awareness like my bitcointalk thread post did. it got over 2000 views in 5 hours 750024;1404867021;colinistheman;And I bet I got a lot more people to join the class action lawsuit 750025;1404867024;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: can't help but remember orlov's point about the deer hunt 750026;1404867030;colinistheman;so I am pleased with that increased awareness and action 750027;1404867059;asciilifeform;'we need a word that describes the artifacts generated in response to irrational actors who demand to be fooled. As the old saying goes, A fool and his money are soon parted at the fools own insistence, no less! If the deer comes out of the forest and walks up to the hunter, it is not proper hunting, and this is not proper con artistry or grift or embezzlement or any other term we use to describe 750028;1404867059;asciilifeform;proper works of evil. If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.' 750029;1404867072;kakobrekla;well, colinistheman , deer cant read. 750030;1404867078;cazalla;indiancandy1: if you are more attractive than sexysaffron, you'd make more money on mfc if you copied her enthusiasm 750031;1404867079;colinistheman;deer bought asics? 750032;1404867093;BingoBoingo;!up colinistheman 750033;1404867101;colinistheman;thx 750034;1404867108;colinistheman;why it demotes my talking ability lol 750035;1404867118;kakobrekla;you are not worthy yet. 750036;1404867118;mircea_popescu;because you're not in the wot 750037;1404867126;mircea_popescu;the wotrty. 750038;1404867128;colinistheman;Oh, i'm learning fast though 750039;1404867138;colinistheman;my wottiness is increasing 750040;1404867150;kakobrekla;so, hows the deer? 750041;1404867153;mircea_popescu;lol how do you figure ? 750042;1404867199;colinistheman;because I'm pretty badass. The wottiness is inherent really 750043;1404867210;mircea_popescu;o.O 750044;1404867219;mircea_popescu;this is without a doubt the weirdest reaction to a wot mention. 750045;1404867226;kakobrekla;!drown colinistheman 750046;1404867233;mircea_popescu;lol 750047;1404867237;colinistheman;Are you a writer or journalist? 750048;1404867260;mircea_popescu;kako ? he's just a cookie monster. 750049;1404867261;indiancandy1;enthusiasm for? 750050;1404867264;colinistheman;you 750051;1404867270;indiancandy1;what using sex toys 750052;1404867273;mircea_popescu;O.o 750053;1404867284;mircea_popescu;colinistheman im bitcoin's only actual billionaire. 750054;1404867292;TheNewDeal;satoshi? 750055;1404867303;kakobrekla;satoshi lost the keys. 750056;1404867304;colinistheman;2nd billiionare i suppose then 750057;1404867309;mircea_popescu;well satoshi is virtual :D 750058;1404867320;colinistheman;have you bought bfl hardware? 750059;1404867326;mircea_popescu;nope. 750060;1404867343;cazalla;indiancandy1: to please 750061;1404867351;colinistheman;good job 750062;1404867361;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 the world belongs to the eager&willing 750063;1404867384;mircea_popescu;colinistheman there';s a whole world of scams i didn't buy into. but anyway. 750064;1404867389;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust kakobrekla 750065;1404867390;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 50 via 29 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011 750066;1404867397;mircea_popescu;that's the wot. bitcoin's web of trust 750067;1404867416;mircea_popescu;until you register with gribble you won't be getting any. 750068;1404867438;colinistheman;That's good. In bitcoin scams are ripe for the picking 750069;1404867466;indiancandy1;but im saying u no sex toys stretch out ur pussy and im not into having a lose pussy for money 750070;1404867472;indiancandy1;i would everrrr trade that 750071;1404867474;indiancandy1;its all about tight 750072;1404867475;colinistheman;Is this your site: http://mpex.co/ 750073;1404867476;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 750074;1404867531;mircea_popescu;yes. 750075;1404867547;colinistheman;cool 750076;1404867547;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 they come in sizes no ? 750077;1404867584;indiancandy1;i dont like the idea of rapeing myself 750078;1404867589;indiancandy1;id rather wank to be fair 750079;1404867593;indiancandy1;but not in public 750080;1404867594;indiancandy1;im 2 shy 750081;1404867595;colinistheman;to be a bitcoin billionaire, one would require over 1.6 million btc 750082;1404867620;colinistheman;That is more than satoshi owns, no? 750083;1404867634;mircea_popescu;colinistheman well at some point btc was 1.2k 750084;1404867641;colinistheman;ah, i see 750085;1404867649;colinistheman;well then it would be about 800,000 btc+ 750086;1404867660;mircea_popescu;something like tha 750087;1404867674;colinistheman;that's kind of like the emperor of bitcoin status 750088;1404867704;mircea_popescu;mostly paper anyway. 750089;1404867705;kakobrekla;dun worry its all virtual! 750090;1404867708;*;kakobrekla runs 750091;1404867718;colinistheman;yeah, paper wallets. 750092;1404867718;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla your running is too slo :D 750093;1404867731;asciilifeform;colinistheman: interesting site. what does one sharpen a titanium knife with ? 750094;1404867741;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform cuntanium. obviously. 750095;1404867742;mircea_popescu;DOH 750096;1404867744;colinistheman;a regular sharpening stone 750097;1404867747;colinistheman;fine grit 750098;1404867762;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo picked anything yet ? 750099;1404867785;*;asciilifeform looks for unobtainium blade 750100;1404867792;colinistheman;lol 750101;1404867806;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I think I'm going with http://www.knives4bitcoin.com/products/boker_trapper_pocket_knife.php 750102;1404867807;assbot;Knives4Bitcoin.com - Boker Trapper Pocket Knife 750103;1404867818;mircea_popescu;cool. 750104;1404867823;*;asciilifeform remembers the japanese folktale of 'the wooden wakizashi' 750105;1404867832;colinistheman;I've got 6 of those behind me lol 750106;1404867836;colinistheman;(the boker trapper) 750107;1404867842;mircea_popescu;paging fluffypony. hey f, lay off teh womenz and irc more! 750108;1404867850;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't recall that one ? 750109;1404867857;asciilifeform;goes something like this. one samurai had the misfortune of breaking his wakizashi (short sword - 'sidearm.') but he was a cheapskate. 750110;1404867862;asciilifeform;replaced the blade with a wooden one. 750111;1404867866;asciilifeform;'no one will notice.' 750112;1404867869;mircea_popescu;lol 750113;1404867873;asciilifeform;a year passes; two 750114;1404867884;asciilifeform;then comes the time when he is ordered to perform seppuku. 750115;1404867889;TheNewDeal;lol 750116;1404867893;asciilifeform;and all he's got - is a wooden knife. 750117;1404867943;BingoBoingo;Seppuku by splinter? 750118;1404867955;BingoBoingo;!up ericmuyser 750119;1404867959;colinistheman;From what I gather, sonny vleisides, carried on the scam of his father. Your article seems to touch upon this. "I came to know my real father only as an adult. So when I got the opportunity to know him better, I was eager and curious. His name was James Ray Houston: 750120;1404867973;asciilifeform;he seppukued. 750121;1404867979;asciilifeform;but it was more of a bitch than usual. 750122;1404867984;asciilifeform;lesson - don't be an arse. 750123;1404868006;colinistheman;Yeah he is dead now 750124;1404868038;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/riverwalk-a-proper-one/ 750125;1404868043;colinistheman;I used to blame BFL_Josh for the poor show at BFL. Well, I still do. But Sonny is the kingpin behind the scenes. That's the real meat and potatoes crime boss 750126;1404868087;mircea_popescu;well yes. 750127;1404868093;mircea_popescu;josh is just some derp 750128;1404868099;mircea_popescu;an offensive derp, but nonetheless. 750129;1404868102;colinistheman;josh is sonny's goon 750130;1404868117;colinistheman;every crime boss has their henchmen 750131;1404868124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03799993 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2} 750132;1404868157;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'la rumana' << is that a shitter? 750133;1404868176;mircea_popescu;yeah 750134;1404868182;asciilifeform;lol! 750135;1404868195;mircea_popescu;:p 750136;1404868213;colinistheman;Thank you for also spreading the word on BFL. I will continue to do what I can and I'm glad it helped in any way. 750137;1404868229;colinistheman;It was good to talk to you all but I will be on my way now. Good day to you gentlemen. And don't forget your arsenal of knives :P 750138;1404868240;colinistheman;http://www.knives4bitcoin.com ! 750139;1404868242;assbot;Knives4Bitcoin.com - Where You Can Trade BTC For Knives! 750140;1404868247;colinistheman;nice to meet you mircea. 750141;1404868299;indiancandy1;mircdea u have al that money shouldnt u be living in a exotic island 750142;1404868304;indiancandy1;with a bag of bitches 750143;1404868307;mircea_popescu;lol the dude just left ?! 750144;1404868311;mircea_popescu;what silliness is this! 750145;1404868319;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 who's to say i'm not ? 750146;1404868331;indiancandy1;oh mircea 750147;1404868332;indiancandy1;btw 750148;1404868340;indiancandy1;are you watching the argentina game? 750149;1404868341;BingoBoingo;Islands suck. 750150;1404868359;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 i watched the last 5 minutes of germany-brazil by accident 750151;1404868364;mircea_popescu;sat down in a cafe 750152;1404868364;BingoBoingo;indiancandy1: He can hear it and surmise how it is going 750153;1404868377;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo no actually they're not screaming atm 750154;1404868381;mircea_popescu;isn't argentina tomorrow ? 750155;1404868385;BingoBoingo;Yeah 750156;1404868385;TheNewDeal;yes it is 750157;1404868398;TheNewDeal;don't you have a decent bet on argentina ? 750158;1404868401;indiancandy1;im so happy germany won 750159;1404868402;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: And you know that because people are doing their jobs atm 750160;1404868434;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal sure. gotta support the team 750161;1404868440;indiancandy1;do u speak spanish mircea 750162;1404868472;mircea_popescu;yep 750163;1404868476;TheNewDeal;haha you want to bet but aren't interested in watching the game? 750164;1404868481;cazalla;indiancandy1: do you like Germans? my oma met the fuhrer 750165;1404868486;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal the fuck do i care. 750166;1404868502;TheNewDeal;enough to bet? 750167;1404868516;kakobrekla;enough to win, dude. 750168;1404868584;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal i didn't actually watch the tennis chick either 750169;1404868602;mircea_popescu;happened on a rerun, also in some cafe, also last 15 minutes or so. 750170;1404868611;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.0007842 = 22.8986 BTC [+] {2} 750171;1404868621;BingoBoingo;I rarely watch events I bet on 750172;1404868628;BingoBoingo;!up indiancandy1 750173;1404868646;TheNewDeal;even if it's difficulty :D? 750174;1404868650;indiancandy1;i like germans 750175;1404868669;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Difficulty isn't as lucrative as betting against Serena Williams 750176;1404868674;indiancandy1;i prefer greeks though 750177;1404868679;mircea_popescu;hard to not watch difficulty. 750178;1404868724;indiancandy1;serena williams is a champ 750179;1404868748;BingoBoingo;Serena Williams loses with great predictability 750180;1404868757;mircea_popescu;that'd have been a sad typo 750181;1404868772;TheNewDeal;I was freaking out today. Just bet against the top scorer last night, then some mexican dude whips out his phone today at work and was telling me germany had 9 goals 750182;1404868787;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal lmao i can see tha 750183;1404868804;cazalla;lol 750184;1404868817;BingoBoingo;Anytime the Decimal odds on Serena Williams opponent pays under 10, Serena doesn't win. You can turn 0.1 BTC into 1 BTC that way with decent regularity. 750185;1404868821;TheNewDeal;not sure if he didn't know the english word for siete 750186;1404868822;mircea_popescu;"omfg someone got 4 ?" 750187;1404868835;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal no they had more but annulled. 750188;1404868841;TheNewDeal;whaaaaat 750189;1404868847;mircea_popescu;yup 750190;1404868871;mircea_popescu;they raped that team 750191;1404868882;mircea_popescu;i don't even think this happened before, in a wc match 750192;1404868883;TheNewDeal;ridiculous 750193;1404868903;TheNewDeal;he showed me a brief clip of a brazilian person in tears 750194;1404868905;TheNewDeal;it was hilarious 750195;1404868909;mircea_popescu;if messi fals into an elevator hatch 750196;1404868916;mircea_popescu;it's gonna be 25-0 for germany 750197;1404868922;TheNewDeal;ahhaha 750198;1404868923;mircea_popescu;the problem of mono teams. 750199;1404868977;BingoBoingo;I hope for an Argentina Germany final where the only players to survive the jerkoff pregame festivities are Messi and Klose 750200;1404868982;TheNewDeal;if you can make it that far, it doesn't really matter 750201;1404869041;cazalla;it'll go to a shootout where messi misses and germany wins 750202;1404869058;TheNewDeal;ill bet you on that 750203;1404869059;TheNewDeal;;) 750204;1404869078;cazalla;what odds 750205;1404869098;cazalla;on just a shootout 750206;1404869100;decimation;asciilifeform: you can watch the loud australian guy teardown an $18k 20ghz spectrum analyzer made by agilent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBFIfKlvHU 750207;1404869100;assbot;EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - YouTube 750208;1404869128;decimation;the us still makes very high quality stuff, you just have to pay golden toliet prices to get it 750209;1404869221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00078181 = 31.3897 BTC [-] {2} 750210;1404869332;mircea_popescu;decimation lmao guy wants to play with spring 750211;1404869384;mircea_popescu;wtf, not turned on ? 750212;1404869394;mircea_popescu;how do i know it's the actual thing if he doesn';t sample anything with it first ? 750213;1404869449;decimation;heh that's a good point 750214;1404869563;mircea_popescu;embeded windows ?! 750215;1404869591;mircea_popescu;this guy isn't very smart is he. 750216;1404869633;decimation;heh well it's actually a fair guess for agilent 750217;1404869647;decimation;they are famous for making $20k test equipment that runs windows xp 750218;1404869700;mircea_popescu;the smart comment was re "some processors or something but we don't care about that" 750219;1404869720;mircea_popescu;what interests him are the fully machined aluminum blocks. 750220;1404869721;mircea_popescu;i mean... 750221;1404869728;decimation;heh yeah for him the computer is the uninteresting part, he cares about the rf parts hehe 750222;1404869729;decimation;yeah 750223;1404869742;decimation;I think his past experience was as a pcb designer 750224;1404869753;decimation;so that's what he focuses on, the board construction 750225;1404869803;mircea_popescu;yeah i see it. 750226;1404869854;decimation;there are some interesting design choices (some he points out, some he doesn't). as ascii would say, figuring out the details is an excercise for the alert reader 750227;1404869912;mircea_popescu;yea im watching it 750228;1404869939;mircea_popescu;why don't they have insulant between the two modules is beyond me. 750229;1404869947;decimation;3e8 m/s / 20 GHz = 15 mm wavelength at 20 Ghz - that's why you see all the esoteric shielding 750230;1404869951;mircea_popescu;air is dielectric, ok, but wouldn't some paste fare better ? 750231;1404870000;indiancandy1;mircea im in love with you 750232;1404870006;indiancandy1;becuase your so bizare 750233;1404870013;indiancandy1;i think your related to vladmire 750234;1404870032;mircea_popescu;how am i bizarre! 750235;1404870032;TheNewDeal;but he only impales women 750236;1404870043;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal what's an asshole in the dark. 750237;1404870049;TheNewDeal;lol 750238;1404870074;decimation;the system is complex, it needs to separate the RF portion from the computer portion, and also conduct heat. I suspect compromises were made between the competing priorities 750239;1404870078;BingoBoingo;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=188 750240;1404870078;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 750241;1404870122;indiancandy1;do you not think you are? 750242;1404870123;mircea_popescu;decimation hence the paste comment 750243;1404870128;mircea_popescu;air odesn't conduct. 750244;1404870139;indiancandy1;mircea do you eat alot of garlic 750245;1404870144;mircea_popescu;i do actually. 750246;1404870150;indiancandy1;i knew it 750247;1404870213;mircea_popescu;smells that bad eh ? 750248;1404870224;asciilifeform;decimation: i 'tore down' a $300k robot. big whoop. 750249;1404870242;asciilifeform;decimation: if you can reassemble the thing later, it's like it never happened. 750250;1404870259;mircea_popescu;i tore down a trabant engine 750251;1404870272;decimation;yeah, I can reasonably guaruntee that for 20 GHz equipment, it's not like it never happened (for this guy) 750252;1404870284;mircea_popescu;exactly 750253;1404870295;decimation;he does point out "well it will probably have to be recalibrated" 750254;1404870302;mircea_popescu;tightly packed handled mass produced electronics like these... 750255;1404870303;asciilifeform;decimation: shield design, note, is quite like mine. (and everyone else's!) i'd love to have the machined aluminum cavity, though. but cost. 750256;1404870317;decimation;heh yeah that's what I was thinking. 750257;1404870335;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform our pricepoint is not 30k 750258;1404870340;asciilifeform;haha yeah 750259;1404870344;mircea_popescu;something tells me that if it were, you';d bitch about machined silver 750260;1404870373;decimation;if you want quality that's what you pay 750261;1404870392;decimation;you can probably buy a "spectrum analyzer" for $1k new 750262;1404870418;asciilifeform;decimation: my chicom dirtscope has one built in. but, have to understand limits of the instrument. 750263;1404870423;asciilifeform;(whether 200 or 200k) 750264;1404870429;indiancandy1;romanians love garlic 750265;1404870437;indiancandy1;there is a restaurant in harlesden 750266;1404870455;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 750267;1404870457;decimation;these guys will make you machined aluminium: http://www.ponoko.com/make-and-sell/materials/ponoko-united-states?kind=Metal&mode=materials 750268;1404870459;assbot;Ponoko - United States - Materials Catalog - Ponoko 750269;1404870461;indiancandy1;a romanian one and all there food is garlicy when u sweat does it smell like garlic? 750270;1404870461;decimation;from 40 mil sheets 750271;1404870464;mircea_popescu;i mostly eat it with italian food. 750272;1404870476;asciilifeform;decimation: i bet the thing still uses staggered (out of phase) multiple ADC, though 750273;1404870480;indiancandy1;do you cook? 750274;1404870485;asciilifeform;afaik nobody makes a 20GHz adc. 750275;1404870502;decimation;oh I doubt it's 20 ghz instantaneous bandwidth 750276;1404870514;decimation;it probably has a ~100 mhz swept receiver 750277;1404870522;mircea_popescu;yes i cook. 750278;1404870528;asciilifeform;and i should add that 18k usd is cheap for a laboratory instrument. 750279;1404870539;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this looks like a field instrument. 750280;1404870543;asciilifeform;a miserable little spectrophotometer (every bio lab on the planet) runs about 50k. 750281;1404870578;decimation;yeah this is one of those portable deals. You can give agilent at least 2-3x that for a high quality lab grade spectrum analyzer 750282;1404870586;mircea_popescu;brb 750283;1404870615;decimation;asciilifeform - but to your point about bio stuff - that's probably why agilent is keeping the agilent name for the bio side of the new company 750284;1404870624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00078219 = 5.6318 BTC [+] 750285;1404870632;asciilifeform;agilent is just the old hp instrument division, spun off 750286;1404870642;decimation;I know, but they are going to spinoff again 750287;1404870656;decimation;"keysight technologies" will be the name of the new test&measurement division 750288;1404870670;decimation;"agilent" is going to go to the bio-bezzle company 750289;1404870745;decimation;in a proper technology company you would keep your high-end engineers busy building esoteric stuff, while their knowledge & expertise trickles down to other areas 750290;1404870754;asciilifeform;also note that the machined cavity is SOP in military electronics 750291;1404870781;decimation;pretty much anything miniaturized & high spec RF 750292;1404870841;decimation;http://www.agilent.com/about/companyinfo/company-separation.html 750293;1404870842;assbot;Agilent | Information About Keysight Spinoff from Agilent 750294;1404870868;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21757 @ 0.00078339 = 17.0442 BTC [+] {3} 750295;1404870882;decimation;I wish I had access to a high spec metal mill 750296;1404870903;asciilifeform;i see nothing in there that couldn't be milled on an ordinary desktop cnc machine. 750297;1404870954;BingoBoingo;Fuck cnc. If you can't mill it with a Bastard File it isn't worth it. 750298;1404870977;dignork;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPyE29ABmoA 750299;1404870977;assbot;Baggage X-Ray machine teardown Part 1 - YouTube 750300;1404870981;decimation;I guess it depends which bit you used 750301;1404871007;asciilifeform;gotta love the 'bodge wire' (patch.) ~25 min. in film. 750302;1404871021;indiancandy1;when are you going 2 cook for me mircia 750303;1404871027;indiancandy1;im coming over to ur house 750304;1404871037;decimation;ascii did you use your laser cutter to make solder masks? 750305;1404871061;asciilifeform;decimation: nope. pcb made at actual factory. 750306;1404871084;decimation;like the plastic that you put over the board so you can apply the solder paste? 750307;1404871107;asciilifeform;decimation: at present time, i apply the paste with a pump. tried plastic templates (laser cut), wasn't satisfied. 750308;1404871122;asciilifeform;my tube (40 watt) won't cut steel. 750309;1404871164;decimation;yeah I guess a proper solder template is made of metal 750310;1404871193;asciilifeform;decimation: not only this - but you need a fairly costly 'printing press' to apply the paste evenly through the gasket. 750311;1404871213;decimation;on the youtubes people just use a squeegie 750312;1404871221;decimation;it looks half-ass though 750313;1404871287;decimation;actually the best solution is probably a wave-soldering machine 750314;1404871299;asciilifeform;for smt?! 750315;1404871318;decimation;I think you typically glue the components down first 750316;1404871331;asciilifeform;good recipe for failure 750317;1404871339;asciilifeform;tension on the pads 750318;1404871349;decimation;yeah I guess if they aren't tight you are going to get alot of cold joints 750319;1404871361;asciilifeform;you get parts that fall off x years later. 750320;1404871423;BingoBoingo;If you can, you must... have your top rib cut out http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140708&content_id=83719924&vkey=news_stl&c_id=stl&tcid=tw_article_83719924 750321;1404871423;assbot;Cards' Jaime Garcia to undergo season-ending surgery on Friday | cardinals.com: News 750322;1404871482;decimation;heh yeah the a/d converter next to the 'bodge wires' is only 40 MHz 12-bit 750323;1404871494;asciilifeform;decimation: same as on my chinese scope! 750324;1404871526;decimation;heh yeah, most of what you pay for is in the tracking oscillator 750325;1404871587;asciilifeform;student project idea 750326;1404871595;asciilifeform;take the agilent scope, and fly it to north korea 750327;1404871600;asciilifeform;see if it boots up after. 750328;1404871642;decimation;heh you mean the gps? 750329;1404871644;decimation;would be amusing 750330;1404871708;decimation;you don't have to go to north korea: can simulate gps signal: http://www.labsat.co.uk/index.php/en/ 750331;1404871709;assbot;LabSat - GPS Simulator, GPS Signal Generator 750332;1404871717;asciilifeform;doesn't have to be gps proper. 750333;1404871738;asciilifeform;there are other ways to figure out that you're 'far from kansas.' 750334;1404871901;decimation;what's interesting is how modular and easy to take apart this agilent device is 750335;1404871926;decimation;it would be fairly straightforward to disassemble & repair, unlike macbook air for example 750336;1404871935;mircea_popescu; i see nothing in there that couldn't be milled on an ordinary desktop cnc machine. << this. 750337;1404871947;mircea_popescu;unless you're making rifles or something, you don't need it. 750338;1404871976;asciilifeform;pashtuns make perfectly normal kalash with hand file 750339;1404871979;asciilifeform;like BingoBoingo. 750340;1404871983;decimation;or titanium knives 750341;1404872000;asciilifeform;but go make the die for shells with file. 750342;1404872029;mircea_popescu; heh yeah the a/d converter next to the 'bodge wires' is only 40 MHz 12-bit << wtf. so 20ghz is a scam ? 750343;1404872042;asciilifeform;same 'scam' as my 100mhz scope 750344;1404872053;asciilifeform;take N independent adc, and stagger the sampling phases 750345;1404872053;mircea_popescu;but they claim to be differen 750346;1404872058;mircea_popescu;which'd be the scam. 750347;1404872065;mircea_popescu;what, they use 500 of the things ?! 750348;1404872068;asciilifeform;lower noise, cleaner stagger. 750349;1404872071;mircea_popescu;nowai. 750350;1404872106;mircea_popescu; but go make the die for shells with file. << women, diamond dust, fingers. 750351;1404872120;mircea_popescu;look at some of the examples of ancient gemcutting, you'll be impressed. 750352;1404872128;asciilifeform;gem cutters cheat 750353;1404872132;decimation;it's not really an oscilloscope, doesn't need to have 20 ghz of bandwidth 750354;1404872138;asciilifeform;because crystals cleave on symmetry plane. 750355;1404872146;mircea_popescu;!up felipelalli 750356;1404872154;decimation;it makes an image of the spectrum, sampled over a period of time 750357;1404872165;decimation;typically you sweep from low to high frequencies of interest 750358;1404872170;mircea_popescu;decimation i thought the claim was 20ghz of bw 750359;1404872179;mircea_popescu;maybe im confused. 750360;1404872181;decimation;nah, not instantaneous 750361;1404872188;asciilifeform;20ghz is easy. 20ghz where you aren't simply picking up harmonics from your own logic - hard. 750362;1404872195;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform amorpous metal will process similarly, just takes longer 750363;1404872239;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: women, wire, electrolyte. electrolytic deposition - with pencil! 750364;1404872243;decimation;yeah that's why all the shielding (preventing logic spurious signals) 750365;1404872301;asciilifeform;note (e.g. at 47 minutes) the pcb-as-passive-component trick 750366;1404872332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03798999 = 0.6458 BTC [-] {2} 750367;1404872333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19419 @ 0.00078144 = 15.1748 BTC [-] {2} 750368;1404872374;BingoBoingo;mike_c: You asymmetric seeding of the pot this round may have fucked you https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/ 750369;1404872375;assbot;Game 16 - Death 5568 Life 4432 Year 339 - War of Life 750370;1404872411;mike_c;looks like its breakeven so far! 750371;1404872464;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Close to, but... 750372;1404872520;asciilifeform;http://youtu.be/1QBFIfKlvHU?t=49m56s << artist! 750373;1404872520;assbot;EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - YouTube 750374;1404872530;mircea_popescu;mike_c losing all our monyz 750375;1404872549;decimation;hehe yeah those "pcb waveguide" filters are awesome 750376;1404872560;decimation;agilent still has a few "greybeards" who know RF 750377;1404872577;mike_c;nah, i seeded with MPIF funds :D 750378;1404872578;asciilifeform;decimation: not necessarily. usually these patterns are crapped out by software. 750379;1404872583;decimation;plus vast sums invested in engineering simulation software 750380;1404872585;decimation;yeah hehe 750381;1404872637;decimation;I think agilent makes "genesis" which does exactly this 750382;1404872653;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: He's up like 0.001 750383;1404872667;mircea_popescu;aok 750384;1404872723;BingoBoingo;For now 750385;1404872771;decimation;the max "resolution bandwidth" for the device is only 3 MHz, that's the width of its filter as it tracks over 20 GHz 750386;1404872942;mircea_popescu;micro sd slot ? 750387;1404872978;decimation;re: pashtun kalashnikovs : http://www.isegoria.net/2011/02/obsolete-weapons/ 750388;1404872979;assbot;Obsolete Weapons « Isegoria 750389;1404872995;decimation;the sd slot is probably to store pretty pictures of the spectrum you capture 750390;1404873033;mircea_popescu;so "attention to detail" agilent is full of random wires lol 750391;1404873060;asciilifeform;doubt the bodges are in the analogue nets 750392;1404873064;mircea_popescu;decimation since not populated nor intended to open i imagined it's factory diagnosis ? 750393;1404873088;asciilifeform;likely contents of sd: fpga bitstreams 750394;1404873090;asciilifeform;(firmware) 750395;1404873094;decimation;yeah I just saw what you were talking about, the one in the middle of the board is to load new firmware 750396;1404873094;decimation;yeah 750397;1404873118;decimation;that way they don't have to slow down assembly line with firmware burner 750398;1404873130;decimation;plus it is simple to field upgrade 750399;1404873154;mircea_popescu;makes sense 750400;1404873162;*;mircea_popescu has learned a lot this past half hour 750401;1404873192;decimation;yeah this video is unusally good for this guy, usually he just rambles at the camera for an hour rather than showing the goods 750402;1404873201;asciilifeform;serious lab instruments usually look quite like this on inside. 750403;1404873214;asciilifeform;it is only a surprise to folks who were never left alone with them 750404;1404873223;asciilifeform;(and screwdriver) 750405;1404873248;decimation;computers could be built this way, if people were willing to pay for it 750406;1404873274;asciilifeform;were, in fact. 750407;1404873275;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Minuteman_guidance_computer_(1).jpg 750408;1404873281;asciilifeform;^ first 'computer' my university got. 750409;1404873315;mircea_popescu;ceramic composite gasket ? 750410;1404873332;decimation;heh yeah that's the autonetics deal 750411;1404873338;asciilifeform;notice exactly same style of machined cavity, gasket, board. 750412;1404873344;asciilifeform;plus shock mounts 750413;1404873395;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Autonetics_D-17.JPG 750414;1404873397;asciilifeform;^ moar 750415;1404873399;decimation;probably could withstand 50 g shock 750416;1404873430;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10814 @ 0.00078076 = 8.4431 BTC [-] {2} 750417;1404873435;asciilifeform;for anyone overcome with urges, there's an emulator somewhere, if i recall. 750418;1404873435;mircea_popescu;yup 750419;1404873436;decimation;heh thru-hole parts with hand-drawn pcbs 750420;1404873440;mircea_popescu;someone leave him the comment he asks for ? 750421;1404873452;mircea_popescu;ahaha solder reinforced dead trace ? 750422;1404873491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14486 @ 0.00077968 = 11.2944 BTC [-] 750423;1404873673;decimation;on the guy's forum someone talks about the bodge wires: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-470-agilent-n9344c-20ghz-spectrum-analyser-teardown/msg233302/#msg233302 750424;1404873675;assbot;EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - Page 3 750425;1404873687;decimation;" It's not unusual for the first couple of units to have components changed by designers who are not expert solderers just to prove that the mod works as intended. Once everyone is happy then some of these units become demo models, " 750426;1404873701;decimation;this was probably a demo unit, if the agilent sales guys gave it to him 750427;1404873736;decimation;I can't find any comments about the gaskets, youtube sucks 750428;1404873749;asciilifeform;the gaskets are usually 'mu metal' 750429;1404873753;asciilifeform;;;google mu metal 750430;1404873753;gribble;Mu-metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; MuShield Magnetic Shielding / MuMetal Home Page, the leader in ...: ; MuMETAL® Sheet and Foil On Magnetic Shield Corporation: 750431;1404873780;mircea_popescu;this is why if i managed him i'd only take final customer items. 750432;1404873781;asciilifeform;the dissector fellow ought to have known this. 750433;1404873840;[]bot;Bet placed: 4.79 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 33.06780078 BTC. Current weight: 6,488. 750434;1404874003;decimation;I suspect the gaskets are something like this http://www.chomerics.com/products/emi/gaskets/wovenwires/index.html 750435;1404874004;assbot;Parker Chomerics | Woven Wire Mesh and Expanded Metal Foil 750436;1404874028;BingoBoingo;Futbol would be a lot more interesting if the World Cup's championship game was just Klose and Messi taking shots from the goal line for 90 minutes 750437;1404874034;decimation;I think the mu-metal is used to line the outer plastic chassis 750438;1404874040;asciilifeform;decimation: looked solid in the film. 750439;1404874053;decimation;yeah, it did 750440;1404874070;mircea_popescu;diametric not bad. i like your guy better than the agilent guy 750441;1404874108;mircea_popescu;uh i mean dignork :p 750442;1404874134;dignork;mircea_popescu: but x-ray! 750443;1404874179;BingoBoingo;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-34T4FnOKEys/U7moV_bQg9I/AAAAAAAAEMM/OX7469hRnH8/s1600/conc.jpg 750444;1404874218;mircea_popescu;What was not noticed much outside of Afghanistan, was that this shift in weaponry brought to an end a long Afghan tradition of precision, long range shooting. 750445;1404874237;asciilifeform;old debate about bolt action vs. auto rifle is old... 750446;1404874242;mircea_popescu;this is bs. unless chinese made, a proper ak probably outshoots a worn-to-shit ww2 surplus bolt action 750447;1404874285;asciilifeform;around here, most bolt action enthusiasts own 'mosin' - in virginal conditionl. 750448;1404874292;mircea_popescu;yeah well. 750449;1404874294;decimation;not if you are 600 yards away 750450;1404874296;mircea_popescu;try shooting a ww1 rifle once 750451;1404874301;asciilifeform;russia produced millions of them, and they can be had in original crate (!) for about 100 usd. 750452;1404874305;mircea_popescu;a daisy's got better accuracy 750453;1404874316;mircea_popescu;decimation "the half dozen or so men moved several hundred meters away and drew lots to see who would fire in what order." 750454;1404874332;mircea_popescu;2-3 even 400. 750455;1404874408;decimation;afghanistan is the ideal long-distance shooting country 750456;1404874423;mircea_popescu;in that sense they need sniper rifles not frigging enfields. 750457;1404874443;decimation;well sure, but they have $100 to spend on pashtoon ak or enfield :) 750458;1404874452;asciilifeform;russia still fields mosins for sniper use 750459;1404874467;asciilifeform;naturally, 'massaged' mosins, not the usual surplus market 750460;1404874495;cazalla;zhoutong is getting into the atm card business https://www.coinjar.com/dna 750461;1404874497;assbot;CoinJar DNA - Become a part of CoinJar's evolution. 750462;1404874499;decimation;this guy on the UK side was having a field day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Harrison_%28sniper%29 750463;1404874527;mircea_popescu;cazalla the disadvantage of running a neobee is that you get the "no news" people on your case 750464;1404874532;mircea_popescu;and gotta keep pumping them "news" 750465;1404874544;asciilifeform;lol re: baggage machine. used to push my knapsack through this exact type of box every morning. 750466;1404874592;asciilifeform;also mega-lol re: 3rd comment on film. 750467;1404874604;asciilifeform;1nn0c3nt l1v3s! 750468;1404874675;cazalla;mircea_popescu: there is a new exchange here in au, cointree.com.au, i emailed and invited them here, they were happy to meet for coffee or do a google hangout but no show here :\ 750469;1404874677;dignork;the guy made a long film out of it, but he managed to turn it on, and then was brave/stupid enough to disassemble particle emitter 750470;1404874718;mircea_popescu;dignork o wow he did that ? 750471;1404874732;mircea_popescu;what do trhese things use, high voltage diode ? 750472;1404874757;asciilifeform;xray tube hasn't really changed since it was discovered. 750473;1404874780;decimation;most good engineers would have alot of trouble figuring out circuitry from an xray (in a short timeframe) 750474;1404874781;mircea_popescu;tungsten/rhenium ? 750475;1404874796;decimation;now imagine what kind of chance the average airport mouthbreather has to figure things out 750476;1404874815;asciilifeform;aye, whack a tungsten target with electron. bremsstrahlung! 750477;1404874839;decimation;nah, use scotch tape 750478;1404874854;*;asciilifeform tried to build the famous scotch tape xray 750479;1404874863;asciilifeform;hard to get detector that is sensitive enough 750480;1404874864;mircea_popescu;lol 750481;1404874868;decimation;http://www.nature.com/news/2008/012345/full/news.2008.1185.html 750482;1404874868;assbot;Sticky tape generates X-rays : Nature News 750483;1404874872;asciilifeform;that one. 750484;1404874885;asciilifeform;love how they eventually admitted that it was a '50s russian discovery 750485;1404874890;asciilifeform;but, 'remastered!' 750486;1404874891;decimation;Yeah I bet you need a good vaccuum too 750487;1404874900;dignork;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ffx5eX39E 750488;1404874900;assbot;Baggage X-ray machine part 6 - inside the black box. - YouTube 750489;1404874920;decimation;I was reading about the history of computers the other day ascii - early soviet machines were balance ternary! 750490;1404874926;asciilifeform;decimation: yes. 750491;1404874938;decimation;I find that amusing, perhaps when the 'end of moore' comes, ternary computers will reappear 750492;1404874943;mircea_popescu;what killed it ? 750493;1404874947;asciilifeform;http://archive.today/kxP9k 750494;1404874948;assbot;Online Emulation of Soviet Ternary Computer Setun / rinary 750495;1404874970;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i might have mentioned this once, long ago. what killed? the decision to copy american machines to run warez. 750496;1404874989;mircea_popescu;aha. 750497;1404874994;asciilifeform;all native russian work on computing was nixed 750498;1404874997;decimation;and the american machines were already "new jersey" style 750499;1404875048;asciilifeform;ternary cpu was not only space-efficient (closer to 'e', more compact arithmetic representation) but considerably simplified arithm. circuits. 750500;1404875056;asciilifeform;no need for 'complements' 750501;1404875096;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer 750502;1404875096;assbot;Ternary computer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 750503;1404875134;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: There are still WWI era Springfields that are in nice shape, but with the Enfields... "British Industry" producers of fine cars that have a commonality with puppies in their leaving of puddles 750504;1404875178;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 750505;1404875180;gribble;Current Blocks: 309868 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 595 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16958371720.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.83189 750506;1404875201;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary "Donald Knuth has pointed out that truncation and rounding are the same operation in balanced ternary ? they produce exactly the same result (a property shared with other balanced numeral systems). " 750507;1404875201;assbot;Balanced ternary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 750508;1404875210;asciilifeform;yes. 750509;1404875261;decimation;it's actually quite elegant, rids you of the need to come up with some silly signed integer representation 750510;1404875303;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55z_0BYb5is 750511;1404875303;assbot;Wierd military computer boards - YouTube 750512;1404875310;asciilifeform;^ re: mil-style board construction 750513;1404875318;*;BingoBoingo still dreams of "spider shotgun" shooting sub 0.1 grams of salt 750514;1404875364;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'ratshot' 750515;1404875379;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Ratshot fucks up drywall 750516;1404875380;asciilifeform;exists, saw in catalogue not long ago. 750517;1404875384;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00078026 = 13.5094 BTC [+] 750518;1404875386;asciilifeform;incl. plastic variant 750519;1404875458;BingoBoingo;Plastic ratshot still messes drywall. Also... I want it for the challenge. Not smashing spiders with a weapon capable of felling a snake 750520;1404875500;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 100mW diode laser. 750521;1404875506;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26610 @ 0.00077972 = 20.7483 BTC [-] {2} 750522;1404875535;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Now we're talking 750523;1404875567;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03660002 = 0.732 BTC [-] {2} 750524;1404875615;decimation;wonder how many backyard warriors are planning on killing the neighbor's kids while "defending" their home with an ak? 750525;1404875689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.036 = 2.52 BTC [-] 750526;1404875786;nubbins`;i saw a video earlier of a 3d-printed composting shredder 750527;1404875882;BingoBoingo;Blackbag operation against the groundhog stealling all of the soon to be tomatoes last week was satisfying 750528;1404876101;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_spot/2014/07/08/brazil_blown_out_by_germany_at_world_cup_how_will_it_effect_president_dilma.html 750529;1404876101;assbot;Brazil blown out by Germany at World Cup: How will it effect President Dilma Rousseff in the upcoming election? 750530;1404876108;decimation;ascii those military boards you linked are apparently from a VAX! 750531;1404876134;asciilifeform;decimation: 'minuteman' and many other american products still run on vax (in their 'modernized' variants!) 750532;1404876174;BingoBoingo;Vaxocentrism 4 Lyfe!!! 750533;1404876181;decimation;yeah, the amount of extra work you have to go through to meet mil-spec for avionics, etc, why bother changing software? 750534;1404876203;asciilifeform;vax forever because... alternative is: winblows. 750535;1404876220;asciilifeform;(why? ask them - not me) 750536;1404876279;decimation;http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118887 750537;1404876280;assbot;404 - File or directory not found. 750538;1404876282;BingoBoingo;Spac isn't bad either before Sparc III 750539;1404876288;decimation;"The Defense Department has leveraged the buying power of more than two million information technology users to award a three-year, $617 million joint enterprise license agreement for Microsoft products, defense officials announced." 750540;1404876299;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31476 @ 0.00077871 = 24.5107 BTC [-] {2} 750541;1404876301;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/dougmillsnyt/statuses/486698576630669312 750542;1404876302;assbot;Twitter / dougmillsnyt: Obama reacts as he is greeted ... 750543;1404876314;decimation;the DoD was very clever in its spending of $0.6 billion for crapware 750544;1404876356;decimation;if only they would have seen the value they would have also purchased whatsapp for $20bn 750545;1404876360;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00078138 = 6.5042 BTC [+] 750546;1404876619;BingoBoingo;decimation: And you suppose Facebook isn't a front how? 750547;1404876756;decimation;http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks tells you all you need to know about facebook 750548;1404876757;assbot;Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks' 750549;1404876835;nubbins`;horse heads 750550;1404877060;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/2014/riverwalk-a-proper-one/#comment-102409 750551;1404877061;assbot;Riverwalk. A proper one. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 750552;1404877144;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/08/smallpox_discovered_old_laboratory_produces_surprising_find.html 750553;1404877144;assbot;Smallpox discovered: Old laboratory produces surprising find. 750554;1404877271;BingoBoingo;!up peterl 750555;1404877280;peterl;hi 750556;1404877286;BingoBoingo;halo 750557;1404877544;BingoBoingo;!up crypto___ 750558;1404877551;BingoBoingo;!up nam-shub 750559;1404877614;BingoBoingo;!up shandid 750560;1404877618;BingoBoingo;!up akstunt600 750561;1404877623;shandid;hey 750562;1404877633;BingoBoingo;Hello shandid 750563;1404877687;BingoBoingo;What brings you here 750564;1404878076;mircea_popescu; "The Defense Department has leveraged the buying power << lmao 750565;1404878130;mircea_popescu;looks like i owe stan a beer nao 750566;1404878144;mircea_popescu;any strippers in washington dc wanna do a home delivery ? 750567;1404878168;TheNewDeal;mememe 750568;1404878189;asciilifeform;i'll pick up mein bier in person soon enough. 750569;1404878240;mircea_popescu;bring the strippers. 750570;1404878251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00077757 = 13.2187 BTC [-] 750571;1404878294;BingoBoingo;Looks like I could do it round trip of a bit over 24 hours on I-70 750572;1404878318;benkay; can anybody recommend an irc bouncer. // emacs + mosh on remote boxx 750573;1404878392;mike_c;thx. i don't know anything about emacs yet. 750574;1404878406;benkay;it's okay for editing text 750575;1404878429;asciilifeform;emacs is life 750576;1404878431;BingoBoingo;Life seems to be in a precarious position, once again thanks to life bombs launching damaging spaceships 750577;1404878435;benkay;mostly it's just a lispy wrapper around *nix runtime 750578;1404878446;benkay;whoa asciilifeform getting all religious 750579;1404878466;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 7(Y):93(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 38.06780078 BTC. Current weight: 6,304. 750580;1404878467;asciilifeform;life in literal sense. little oasis in a parched desert of dry turd. 750581;1404878488;benkay;more like semi sanitizing wrapper 750582;1404878494;benkay;poo stench still oozes through 750583;1404878495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.035 = 0.56 BTC [-] {2} 750584;1404878500;mike_c;BingoBoingo: you got a position? 750585;1404878520;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Just a little bit on death, less a bit on life 750586;1404878572;asciilifeform;benkay: stench still oozes through << of course. 750587;1404878619;thestringpuller;emacs is lame. vim 4 lyfe 750588;1404878631;*;mircea_popescu uses nano and what is this 750589;1404878642;TheNewDeal;who is 16tao 750590;1404878656;TheNewDeal;16tAo 750591;1404878666;asciilifeform;lives there a man who doesn't use nano? (or, 'pico' ?) 750592;1404878786;asciilifeform;Breathes there the man, with soul so dead, / Who never to himself hath said, / This is my own, my native shell! / Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd, / As home his footsteps he hath turn'd, / From wandering on a winblows hell! 750593;1404878797;asciilifeform;(apologies to sir walter scott) 750594;1404878800;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00078049 = 9.0927 BTC [+] 750595;1404879044;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16776 @ 0.00078138 = 13.1084 BTC [+] 750596;1404879086;mircea_popescu;not bad. 750597;1404879105;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18324 @ 0.00078498 = 14.384 BTC [+] 750598;1404879804;kyuupichan;TheNewDeal: I believe it's kako, but I could be wrong 750599;1404879811;kyuupichan;Why? 750600;1404879857;TheNewDeal;it's an address I see lots while scowering bitbet for my latest fortune 750601;1404879868;kyuupichan;Someone who's close to MP at any rate 750602;1404879878;TheNewDeal;wasn't sure if it was MP himself 750603;1404879894;TheNewDeal;was looking at this 750604;1404879895;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/991/argentina-beats-netherlands/ 750605;1404879895;assbot;BitBet - Argentina beats Netherlands :: 50.07 B (60%) on Yes, 32.96 B (40%) on No | closing in 19 hours 35 minutes | weight: 28`366 (100`000 to 10`000) 750606;1404879898;kyuupichan;haha, that's a possibility, but I think he normally uses 1K4fs (or sthg similar) 750607;1404879914;kyuupichan;1K4Fs 750608;1404879931;TheNewDeal;which is basically 50 1K4fs vs 32.335 16tAo 750609;1404879937;TheNewDeal;plus some chump change 750610;1404879966;kyuupichan;Right. Notice they were placed at the same time - making it highly likely they knew each other were going to bet. There was no public discussion. Hence my suspicion it's kako. 750611;1404880056;TheNewDeal;assuming 16tAo is kako, and 1K4fs is mp, how much does each make in the winning/losing scenario 750612;1404880130;kyuupichan;A shitload :) 750613;1404880226;TheNewDeal;how much would one recover from the losing side, considering they owned a large portion of bitbet shares? 750614;1404880329;mike_c;1% * (percentage they don't own) - expenses. 750615;1404880342;mike_c;negligible 750616;1404880361;mike_c;er, * percentage they do own i mean 750617;1404880367;mike_c;still, very little. 750618;1404880483;TheNewDeal;true, looks like it would 1% or less of original bet 750619;1404880527;kyuupichan;Between them they own most of bitbet meaning they almost bet for free 750620;1404880568;TheNewDeal;i guess that's pretty fair 750621;1404880584;TheNewDeal;not that I have a say in the matter :D 750622;1404880586;decimation;asciilifeform: I've been using org-mode recently, it is definitely a useful tool 750623;1404880983;mthreat;mircea_popescu: i thought you'd like this: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10550867_10204346767814371_6414089052882239487_n.jpg 750624;1404881017;mthreat;mircea_popescu: it's a mannequin at a restaurant (Filo) in retiro 750625;1404881545;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00078155 = 14.7713 BTC [-] 750626;1404882094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00078446 = 16.4737 BTC [+] 750627;1404882275;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.7998 BTC for No on "Bitstamp Price to exceed 900$ before August (day's low)" http://bitbet.us/bet/814/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.4097083 BTC. Current weight: 19,659. 750628;1404882278;[]bot;Bet placed: 59.99631592 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 612.76560806 BTC. Current weight: 37,560. 750629;1404882521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00078155 = 9.066 BTC [-] 750630;1404882582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00078043 = 14.7111 BTC [-] {2} 750631;1404882697;kyuupichan;TheNewDeal: Your 1Q9Q6 no? 750632;1404882700;kyuupichan;You're 750633;1404882705;TheNewDeal;yes 750634;1404882710;kyuupichan;heh 750635;1404882738;TheNewDeal;if you would like to purchase some timeweight from me, give me a holler 750636;1404882780;kyuupichan;Why do you reuse the address? Just curious. 750637;1404882836;TheNewDeal;that address is pretty much bitbets 750638;1404882871;TheNewDeal;don't feel the need to change it up often 750639;1404882920;kyuupichan;I guess it's useful for stats. Not very private though which is why I wondered why people do it. Maybe they just don't care. 750640;1404883010;TheNewDeal;pretty much what you said there 750641;1404883030;kyuupichan;I wonder what it'd take to get BTC to 10k by 29 Nov. World financial crisis perhaps? 750642;1404883056;TheNewDeal;I don't think financial crises necessarily means boom for bitcoin 750643;1404883094;TheNewDeal;I think you would probably just need a bitstamp like company to go Mt Gox, have a bunch of fishy shit go down, and the other exchanges follow the lead 750644;1404883100;Duffer1;wall street level speculation imo 750645;1404883103;kyuupichan;10k is quite a tall order in 5 mths though. 750646;1404883114;kyuupichan;5k by y/e is far more likely IMO 750647;1404883115;Duffer1;they'll price it at whatever the hell they want 750648;1404883131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9249 @ 0.00078446 = 7.2555 BTC [+] 750649;1404883155;kyuupichan;Lloyd Blankfein turns believer and publicly puts $100m in BTC. 750650;1404883172;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/989/bitcoin-to-win-vs-s-p-500/ this bet is very interesting to me 750651;1404883172;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to win vs S&P 500 :: 0.73 B (63%) on Yes, 0.43 B (37%) on No | closing in 6 months 5 days | weight: 97`197 (100`000 to 1) 750652;1404883200;TheNewDeal;S&P 500 is sitting at a fragile 1900 at the moment 750653;1404883225;kyuupichan;Yeah I think equities are looking a bit toppy 750654;1404883262;TheNewDeal;s&p is an index 750655;1404883271;kyuupichan;Still I don't think BTC goes to over $2k this year now. I'd be happy with 1500 750656;1404883300;kyuupichan;Yup I know 750657;1404883322;TheNewDeal;ahhh gotcha, I guess there is a grey area with indicies of equities 750658;1404883390;TheNewDeal;I would love to see it go towards $1500 this year, but I think next year is going to be a big one pricewise 750659;1404883405;TheNewDeal;for some reason I think this year is going to be meh 750660;1404883434;kyuupichan;Well the first 6 months have been pretty "meh". :) 750661;1404883436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.0007849 = 24.3319 BTC [+] {2} 750662;1404883459;kyuupichan;I wonder if we'll ever be down year-on-year 750663;1404883463;TheNewDeal;good buying opportunities :). 750664;1404883500;TheNewDeal;I think the mt cox fiasco really messed with the price, wouldn't be surprised if we were sub 1200 by years end 750665;1404883542;Duffer1;the derp money ran face first into the bitcointalk securities scam wall 750666;1404883569;Duffer1;+ mt gox 750667;1404883575;TheNewDeal;seems like that is going to happen a dozen times over 750668;1404883596;Duffer1;infinite hitpoints indeed 750669;1404883670;Duffer1;if bitcoin wants a capital draw then it will probably be porn and gambling leading the way 750670;1404883984;Duffer1;and drugs 750671;1404883995;TheNewDeal;well 750672;1404884042;TheNewDeal;I also heard the black market of employment is increasing at a faster rate than that of typical tax-payer employment 750673;1404884060;nubbins`;underground economy ftw 750674;1404884075;nubbins`;wow, still authed 750675;1404884077;TheNewDeal;wouldn't be too far-fetched to see people being paid in bitcoin, avoiding government taxation 750676;1404884094;TheNewDeal;that's the term I was looking for 750677;1404884122;TheNewDeal;wonder if the first underground economy was above ground or below 750678;1404884122;Duffer1;that would be hard to make auditproof without trustworthy mixing services 750679;1404884127;nubbins`;TheNewDeal, that's already happening all the time ;( 750680;1404884144;TheNewDeal;why the tears nubbins'? 750681;1404884150;nubbins`;something in my eye 750682;1404884171;nubbins`;but anyway. great for unregistered businesses 750683;1404884184;TheNewDeal;great for the bitcoin economy. simply amazing 750684;1404884184;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 750685;1404884188;Duffer1;ah ya no doubt 750686;1404884196;nubbins`;registered ones w/ employees probably aren't just going to start paying salaries with bitcoin and stop deducting income tax 750687;1404884205;nubbins`;that's a bit silly 750688;1404884228;TheNewDeal;too much work 750689;1404884248;nubbins`;too much risk 750690;1404884263;TheNewDeal;indeed 750691;1404884311;nubbins`;however, businesses that are directly involved in btc 750692;1404884315;nubbins`;different story 750693;1404884475;TheNewDeal;gotta head to bed, but I'll leave you with this. Child-porn sniffing dawgs http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/07/08/329501226/police-use-dog-to-find-memory-hard-drives-in-search?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20140708 750694;1404884475;assbot;Police Use Dog To Find Memory And Hard Drives In Search : The Two-Way : NPR 750695;1404885388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00078043 = 5.5411 BTC [-] 750696;1404885754;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40233 @ 0.00077679 = 31.2526 BTC [-] {3} 750697;1404886242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.000775 = 7.905 BTC [-] {2} 750698;1404886370;fluffypony;mircea_popescu:paging fluffypony. hey f, lay off teh womenz and irc more! <- he says at 1am :-P 750699;1404886437;fluffypony;actually that knives4bitcoin site is kinda cool, I'm just not in the market for anything atm 750700;1404886655;fluffypony;pity they don't have Fallkniven or Benchmade 750701;1404887706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.0007522 = 20.4222 BTC [-] 750702;1404889231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00075652 = 2.7613 BTC [+] {2} 750703;1404893516;kyuupichan;Is the leverage on bitfinex mostly long or short or pretty balanced? 750704;1404893809;cazalla;wow, sexysaffron already removed from youtube, i bet you andreas did this 750705;1404893841;cazalla;someone should, you know, kill him 750706;1404893874;pankkake;lol 750707;1404893909;pankkake;the video was public, with nudity. duh 750708;1404893943;cazalla;yeah but they usually last longer 750709;1404893959;cazalla;ISIS videos have been on there for weeks 750710;1404895007;ThickAsThieves;<+kyuupichan> Is the leverage on bitfinex mostly long or short or pretty balanced? //// there's a meter on the site 750711;1404895026;ThickAsThieves;https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/stats 750712;1404895974;kyuupichan;ThickAsThieves: Cheers! 750713;1404895993;kyuupichan;andreas who? 750714;1404896855;cazalla;exactly 750715;1404896935;ThickAsThieves;kyuupichan see also http://www.bfxdata.com/ 750716;1404896937;assbot;Bitfinex Swaps USD 750717;1404899678;davout;;;later tell mircea_popescu "it's gonna be 25-0 for germany" <<< implying netherlands won't buttraep argentina :D 750718;1404899678;gribble;The operation succeeded. 750719;1404900577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 59 @ 0.01609989 = 0.9499 BTC [-] {10} 750720;1404900638;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01448 = 0.724 BTC [-] 750721;1404902137;davout;mpex.co down for everyone ? 750722;1404902172;fluffypony;http://isup.me/mpex.co 750723;1404902467;davout;isup.me is down for me :D 750724;1404902497;davout;fluffypony: so is mpex down for you smartass? 750725;1404902521;fluffypony;yes 750726;1404902530;fluffypony;and it's down for isup 750727;1404902585;pankkake;$proxies 750728;1404902585;empyex;pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ 750729;1404902585;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 750730;1404902597;fluffypony;http://cheezburger.com/8247736320 750731;1404902598;assbot;Ukrainian Astronomers Officially Name a Star "Putin is a D-ckhead" - Cheezburger 750732;1404902942;davout;yeah, proxy down too 750733;1404902956;davout;e-mail interface would be neat-o 750734;1404902978;davout;wat, no wait it's up 750735;1404902981;davout;:D 750736;1404903025;pankkake;I was thinking of e-mail interface, it seemed ideal. except you'd probably want to set an expiration for the order 750737;1404903066;davout;pankkake: that for one, also linking orders to responses would be another issue 750738;1404903134;davout;that's actually the kind of interface i was thinking about when trying to figure out how to handle DDoS without cloudflare 750739;1404903149;pankkake;http://cr.yp.to/immhf/thread.html 750740;1404903335;davout;pankkake: interesting thanks! 750741;1404903540;fluffypony;eugh, new Blackberry Passport is fugly: http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/New-BB-devices.jpg 750742;1404904115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.20278397 = 10.1392 BTC [+] {9} 750743;1404907093;FabianB;$mpexlag 750744;1404907157;FabianB;"12:49 <+davout> e-mail interface would be neat-o" <-- looks like the irc interface is down as well, so it's probably not the frontend server, it's the trade engine itself 750745;1404907220;empyex;FabianB: Hmm.. error. 750746;1404908626;kakobrekla;email interface is up afaik 750747;1404908631;kakobrekla;only its manual. 750748;1404908710;kakobrekla; I was thinking of e-mail interface, it seemed ideal. except you'd probably want to set an expiration for the order < yeah i was thinking same yesterday 750749;1404908729;kakobrekla;but in my case ill just skip that. 750750;1404908733;kakobrekla;i think. 750751;1404908747;pankkake;skip expiration? 750752;1404908756;pankkake;the issue is that mails can sometimes be stuck for days 750753;1404908805;kakobrekla;yeah true that. only im not using email. but still, same thing applies 750754;1404908816;los_pantalones;http://imgur.com/Vi5a6jf 750755;1404908816;assbot;Some dude in r/soccer made the best bet of his life - Imgur 750756;1404908863;fluffypony;those odds 750757;1404908866;fluffypony;that is nuts 750758;1404908885;kakobrekla;but i was thinking in a sense - you submit your order via whatever protocol and there is some delay to response or it may never come 750759;1404908897;kakobrekla;basically regardless of which protocol you pick these things can happen 750760;1404908912;mircea_popescu;davout what's netherlands, like a team or something ? 750761;1404908934;kakobrekla;so i guess giving it an expiration date fixes this in most if not all cases 750762;1404908946;kakobrekla;but it complicates it somewhat. 750763;1404908991;pankkake;the other advantage is that you can wait for the return… and give up waiting after expiration 750764;1404908993;kakobrekla;mpex model is to requery stat and hope to see if its in 750765;1404909000;pankkake;lol 750766;1404909007;mircea_popescu;Confirmed bets: 11000 750767;1404909040;davout;pankkake: because answer got lost on the way 750768;1404909043;davout;mebbe 750769;1404909052;kakobrekla;yeah but i can see how time sync can also be problematic 750770;1404909055;pankkake;hm, right, you cannot be sure of that too 750771;1404909067;davout;mircea_popescu: they're the guys who give the balls to robben 750772;1404909085;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/991/argentina-beats-netherlands/ 750773;1404909085;assbot;BitBet - Argentina beats Netherlands :: 50.07 B (60%) on Yes, 32.96 B (40%) on No | closing in 11 hours 28 minutes | weight: 20`762 (100`000 to 10`000) 750774;1404909090;mircea_popescu;they're not doing so hawt :p 750775;1404909198;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan: Right. Notice they were placed at the same time - making it highly likely they knew each other were going to bet. There was no public discussion. Hence my suspicion it's kako. << kako only has 31.35 btc. 750776;1404909271;kakobrekla;lol 750777;1404909274;mircea_popescu;mthreat haha not bad. is it a girl or a boy tho ? 750778;1404909357;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan: I wonder what it'd take to get BTC to 10k by 29 Nov. World financial crisis perhaps? << lol. no, actually, any one of about a million or so people could do it today. 750779;1404909368;mircea_popescu;buy 1mn worth of btc three-four times, it's done. 750780;1404909412;mircea_popescu;Duffer1: they'll price it at whatever the hell they want << haven't managed it so far, no. if only it were that easy. 750781;1404909579;mircea_popescu;so it seems we're having further problems with teh disks. 750782;1404909582;mircea_popescu;o lovely disks ;/ 750783;1404909969;thestringpuller;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad 750784;1404909971;assbot;Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter 750785;1404910350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 66 @ 0.01621653 = 1.0703 BTC [+] {4} 750786;1404910428;kakobrekla;hm, internets say theres liek 7mio millionaire households in usa alone 750787;1404910524;kakobrekla;half a mio of them in tokyo 750788;1404910878;davout;germany scoring 7 goals against brazil isn't that bad 750789;1404910891;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla well yes but someone can't put all their net worth into btc. 750790;1404910895;mircea_popescu;for one thing they still need a house. 750791;1404910897;davout;they won 6 million to zero against israel back in the day 750792;1404910906;mircea_popescu;davout israel. 750793;1404910907;kakobrekla;i did it. apart from the liver. 750794;1404910909;ThickAsThieves;Zack Danger is like, fuck, i gotta mail so many bites of potato salad... 750795;1404910979;kakobrekla;should have done the liver too. 750796;1404911002;mircea_popescu;so then you;'d have had over 33 bitcoinz ? 750797;1404911010;kakobrekla;uhum 750798;1404911181;kyuupichan;kako's gonna be 50 coinz richer soon 750799;1404911218;mircea_popescu;livers for the whole fambly! 750800;1404911220;kakobrekla;all i can say it isnt me. which is also what i would say if i wanted to you think it isnt me. so whatever. 750801;1404911223;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: lol 750802;1404911224;ThickAsThieves;just a random note, isnt the bitbet website kinda small, by today's resolution/monitor standards? 750803;1404911241;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: I'll bet he gets into trouble with some countries for trying to import food to them 750804;1404911248;ThickAsThieves;i just realized ive had it zoomed way in, cuz the WoL ad is all blurry 750805;1404911298;pankkake;I have a narrow browser, because it's easier to read 750806;1404911310;pankkake;those 1920 screens are stupid :/ 750807;1404911330;ThickAsThieves;theyre also why i canty stand left-aligned websites 750808;1404911346;kyuupichan;kakobrekla: lol 750809;1404911352;ThickAsThieves;how come no one right aligns? 750810;1404911357;ThickAsThieves;racists 750811;1404911426;kakobrekla;terrorist. 750812;1404911437;fluffypony;PRAISE ALLAH WITH MY RIGHT-ALIGNED SITE 750813;1404911450;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves just use punkman's gui 750814;1404911463;mircea_popescu;websites are for poor people. 750815;1404911522;ThickAsThieves;how is bitbet sposed to be the furst biggest if so small? 750816;1404911539;davout;kakobrekla: no actually the terrorists do right align 750817;1404911549;ThickAsThieves;to be fair i have more than half my websites zoomed in 750818;1404911569;ThickAsThieves;mp told me to care for my eyes 750819;1404911601;pankkake;funny how many hipsters' websites have big fonts, yet those guys are young with big glasses 750820;1404911602;kakobrekla;davout yes that is being implied 750821;1404911618;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: I use NoSquint, configurable zoom per website 750822;1404911624;FabianB;$mpexlag 750823;1404911631;ThickAsThieves;chrome remembers the zoom too mostly 750824;1404911632;kakobrekla;pankkake do you zoom bitbet? 750825;1404911634;fluffypony;NoSquirt? 750826;1404911644;kakobrekla;fluffypony thats the result yea 750827;1404911650;fluffypony;:-P 750828;1404911654;pankkake;no, never felt the need to zoom it 750829;1404911691;mircea_popescu;FabianB it's been down for a while. working on it. 750830;1404911714;pankkake;though it definitively is easier on the eyes with 110% text-only zoom 750831;1404911714;kyuupichan;Public Note: bitcoin is harmful ponzi scheme, it will collapse soon, satoshi nakamoto is devil. 750832;1404911716;kyuupichan;lol 750833;1404911751;empyex;FabianB: Hmm.. error. 750834;1404911779;FabianB;mircea_popescu: kk 750835;1404911932;kyuupichan;Why TF does bitstamp put all their coins in one huge address? Doesn't seem the smartest plan. 750836;1404911975;kyuupichan;It's ironic the two largest BTC addresses are coins held in custody for others 750837;1404911985;kakobrekla;nowhere does it say they are smart. 750838;1404911989;pankkake;why would more addresses be more secure? 750839;1404911994;kakobrekla;i checked the faq. 750840;1404912009;pankkake;what's the other largest address? 750841;1404912027;kyuupichan;DPR seized coins 750842;1404912050;mircea_popescu; why would more addresses be more secure? << one address can't be in two wallets. 750843;1404912066;kakobrekla;eh? 750844;1404912087;ThickAsThieves;this is bound to be a circular debate 750845;1404912090;mircea_popescu;well that wasn't the best way to say it. 750846;1404912102;mircea_popescu;all teh btc in one address are lost simultaneously. 750847;1404912107;ThickAsThieves;more gears, more can break. less gears, when it breaks, it's worse. 750848;1404912107;mircea_popescu;is what i meant. 750849;1404912112;mircea_popescu;exactly. 750850;1404912125;pankkake;right; but the point shouldn't be more addresses, but more holders or locations 750851;1404912173;kakobrekla;question, do make withdrawals from that addy or they move the whole thing? 750852;1404912258;kyuupichan;That cosmic ray that does a bitflip between you pressing enter on the password and the software signing the txn 750853;1404912261;ThickAsThieves;i'd guess it's cold storage and only tapped into when hot wallet is abnormally low 750854;1404912270;ThickAsThieves;but what do i know 750855;1404912323;pankkake;can in a fridge 750856;1404912491;mircea_popescu;lol 750857;1404912493;nubbins`;fridge in a can 750858;1404912494;nubbins`;would buy 750859;1404912516;ThickAsThieves;http://dcmagnates.com/pantera-capital-launches-pantera-bitindex-states-venture-capital-will-drive-bitcoin-growth/ 750860;1404912517;assbot;Pantera Capital Launches Pantera Bitindex, States Venture Capital Will Drive Bitcoin Growth – Digital Currency Magnates 750861;1404912579;mircea_popescu;pantera is going to make a nice rug. 750862;1404912628;ThickAsThieves;The research report also announced the launch of the Pantera BitIndex. Measuring seven data points, according to Pantera Capital 750863;1404912650;ThickAsThieves;Developer interest on GitHub 750864;1404912650;ThickAsThieves;Merchant adoption 750865;1404912650;ThickAsThieves;Wikipedia views 750866;1404912650;ThickAsThieves;Hashrate 750867;1404912650;ThickAsThieves;Google searches 750868;1404912651;ThickAsThieves;User adoption as measured by wallets 750869;1404912651;ThickAsThieves;Transaction volume 750870;1404912651;nubbins`;;;ud pantera 750871;1404912652;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pantera | Pantera. A fucking kickass metal band that has, believe it or not, made a special appearance in Spongebob Squarepants' episode of "Pre-Hibernation Week". 750872;1404912662;ThickAsThieves;lol 750873;1404912667;mircea_popescu;hahaha ok 750874;1404912670;ThickAsThieves;nice index bro 750875;1404912701;mircea_popescu;this is like... the forum 2.0 750876;1404912731;mircea_popescu;under the very flimsy - VERY flimsy - excuse that they aren't really this stupid, they're just trying to cater to the stupid. 750877;1404912747;mircea_popescu;this sticks until you actually get to know them financial minds, and find out that yes, they are actualy that 750878;1404912751;mircea_popescu;stupid 750879;1404912884;pankkake;so pantera is going to invest in companies, not coins? 750880;1404912890;ThickAsThieves;USD falls today due to decreased github developer interest! 750881;1404912896;pankkake;s/companies/startups/ 750882;1404912899;mircea_popescu;maybe it just buys the index 750883;1404913122;nubbins`;landed a job making t-shirts for my favourite sushi restaurant :D 750884;1404913135;pankkake;are you paid in sushis? 750885;1404913196;mircea_popescu;:D 750886;1404913201;mircea_popescu;quote them in rolls! 750887;1404913308;pankkake;anything's better than fiat. I have not had much success yet though 750888;1404913335;pankkake;say, I could be paid in hard drives 750889;1404913377;fluffypony;nigga plz 750890;1404913379;fluffypony;ssd's only 750891;1404913422;pankkake;I don't need that much ssds. or I would be very very well paid if I moved everything to ssds 750892;1404913501;fluffypony;so this DataTank mining crowd 750893;1404913509;fluffypony;they've now secured ALL OF THE FUNDINGZ 750894;1404913514;fluffypony;or something 750895;1404913529;mircea_popescu;what's it do ? 750896;1404913534;pankkake;tank 750897;1404913546;mircea_popescu;i beg your pardon ? 750898;1404913559;fluffypony;hah hah 750899;1404913568;fluffypony;they shove ASICs in tanks of fluid 750900;1404913575;fluffypony;in shipping containers 750901;1404913578;mircea_popescu;o o 750902;1404913588;mircea_popescu;not such a horrible idea i thought 750903;1404913598;mircea_popescu;seeing how you then don't need a warehouse anymore, just a lot. 750904;1404913623;fluffypony;yeah 750905;1404913639;mircea_popescu;asic miners are also the eminent tool for this. an isp can't do it because customers wil want upgrades etc 750906;1404913640;fluffypony;it seems nice from a visual perspective, all these shipping-container-modules 750907;1404913652;fluffypony;but it doesn't seem to be a very clever use of space 750908;1404913654;mircea_popescu;but i was trying to sell a sysadmin friend on the concept of ironman isp, doing something quite similar. 750909;1404913662;mircea_popescu;"and if a server blows you just get another one" 750910;1404913665;mircea_popescu;!up mcm 750911;1404913666;fluffypony;hah 750912;1404913694;mircea_popescu;fluffypony why not clever use of space ? 750913;1404913707;pankkake;shipping cointainers are an old idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Modular_Datacenter 750914;1404913708;assbot;Sun Modular Datacenter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 750915;1404913716;mircea_popescu;pankkake true. 750916;1404913754;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: if you want to expand I think grabbing an existing warehouse and expanding within the warehouse is eminently more manageable, both from expansion and security perspectives 750917;1404913755;pankkake;perhaps having your mining farm mobile can be an advantage 750918;1404913770;fluffypony;pankkake: not when "mobile" needs 3-phase power 750919;1404913785;mircea_popescu;fluffypony who's going to steal from a steel container ? 750920;1404913790;mircea_popescu;warehouse has gates. imo much more secure. 750921;1404913800;fluffypony;just steal the whole container 750922;1404913804;mircea_popescu;yeah. right. 750923;1404913807;fluffypony;:-P 750924;1404913821;mircea_popescu;you need machinery for that, not really the same as backing in some pickup trucks. 750925;1404913841;mircea_popescu;also you have to steal the whole thing. if people had to steal the WHOLE old lady, they a) couldn't use bikes and b)wouldn't be bothered. 750926;1404913848;mircea_popescu;the point is to be ab le to select just the purse. 750927;1404913874;mircea_popescu;and as for expansion... those shits stack 10 iirc. 750928;1404913884;mircea_popescu;what dc has 10 floors ? 750929;1404913917;pankkake;perhaps you want to quickly change the state you operate in. because power costs, laws… 750930;1404913918;mircea_popescu;pankkake course i see thsi was announced 2006. my idea was cca 2002 :p 750931;1404914046;mircea_popescu;pankkake plus you get unexpected bonuses. such as parking one in every trailer park in the us. 750932;1404914070;Mats_cd03;http://www.linux-kongress.org/2010/slides/osmocombb-welte.pdf killer presentation on gsm 750933;1404914075;mircea_popescu;least ddos-able miner farm ever (which currently is the major problem) 750934;1404914160;pankkake;do ddos the farm, you'd have to know what ips they have. pretty easy to hide from the public 750935;1404914165;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: seems like that is going to happen a dozen times over << im hoping about 5 (of which 3 already happened. 2 moar reserved for WCs) 750936;1404914174;mircea_popescu;pankkake nothing is ever easy to hide. 750937;1404914240;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: wouldn't be too far-fetched to see people being paid in bitcoin, avoiding government taxation << inasmuch as you've seen this like... yesterday ? yeah. 750938;1404914290;Mats_cd03;are miners generally vulnerable to ddos? 750939;1404914296;mircea_popescu;quite. 750940;1404914304;mircea_popescu;!up arsenische 750941;1404914342;mircea_popescu;cazalla: wow, sexysaffron already removed from youtube, i bet you andreas did this >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yrlh3E_qu4 750942;1404914342;assbot;Mission: #bitcoin-assets - YouTube 750943;1404914345;mircea_popescu;how's it removed ? 750944;1404914372;mircea_popescu;cazalla: ISIS videos have been on there for weeks << yeah but who ever cared about that :p 750945;1404914404;Mats_cd03;i enjoy the videos quite a bit 750946;1404914465;Mats_cd03;jihadis have a flair for the dramatic. ends up with p good war porn 750947;1404914545;pankkake;davout: http://www.numerama.com/magazine/29953-un-rapport-pour-encadrer-le-bitcoin-remis-par-tracfin-a-michel-sapin.html 750948;1404914546;assbot;Un rapport pour encadrer le Bitcoin remis par TRACFIN Michel Sapin 750949;1404914571;pankkake;the state is "somewhat worried" 750950;1404914868;Mats_cd03;do miners necessarily have to be vulnerable to ddos? i cant say i understand how mining works in depth 750951;1404915158;nubbins`;that video is brutal 750952;1404915213;nubbins`;BITCOIN!! HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE 750953;1404915232;danielpbarron;a miner doing 51% can take a ddos; any others would not be able to make the longest chain without up-to-date blockchain data 750954;1404915271;nubbins`;so IDGAF about sports 750955;1404915289;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron this being the most dangerous part of someone getting 51% : he now has a serious incentive to ddos the world. 750956;1404915290;nubbins`;but apparently pornhub and similar sites have been flooded with uploads of the germany-brazil game 750957;1404915300;davout;pankkake: thanks! so apparently it's due on friday 750958;1404915303;mircea_popescu;all he needs is to constantly kick the 2-3 closest competitors off the block. a la mtgox-tradehill 750959;1404915308;nubbins`;"young brazilians get fucked by entire german football team" etc 750960;1404915337;Mats_cd03;hilarious 750961;1404915359;nubbins`;they had to ask people to stop, claiming their public humiliation category was full 750962;1404915569;mircea_popescu;lol 750963;1404915581;mircea_popescu;public humiliation is never full! 750964;1404916247;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 750965;1404916249;pankkake;public disgrace 750966;1404916470;indiancandy1;who? 750967;1404916599;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 here's a trick : this cannel is logged. you can see what people were talking about before you showed up. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#750961 750968;1404916599;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 750969;1404916701;kakobrekla;there is a log? oh my god mircea, i think i love you. 750970;1404916713;rithm;logs are for fags 750971;1404916758;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla show me your teats ? 750972;1404916865;indiancandy1;his mine 750973;1404916866;indiancandy1;:( 750974;1404916882;ThickAsThieves;"@BTCFoundation hires Thorsen French as outside lobbyists. Part of the appeal was they weren't invovled in past financial services battles" 750975;1404916898;ThickAsThieves;god forbid they have experience 750976;1404916931;kakobrekla;fuck you bitch i was here first. 750977;1404916949;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you don';t get how probono works. 750978;1404916951;ThickAsThieves;Altcoin currently has more votes than GroinCoin at hitbtc.com/vote 750979;1404916958;ThickAsThieves;such progress 750980;1404916965;chetty;ThickAsThieves, experience? whats this are you racist or smthn 750981;1404916965;mircea_popescu;"part of the appeal was that having no experience and looking for exposure, they didn't actually want to be paid" 750982;1404916974;ThickAsThieves;and more votes than ripple! 750983;1404916990;pankkake;I suppose you can pay for votes? 750984;1404917002;ThickAsThieves;probly 750985;1404917003;indiancandy1;it was rigged 750986;1404917015;rithm;omg where 2 buy realcomins!!!!! 750987;1404917020;rithm;*realcoinz 750988;1404917044;ThickAsThieves;hmm it says nothing about paying for votes 750989;1404917053;ThickAsThieves;but it does say theyll list if there are 2 market makers 750990;1404917062;pankkake;lol 750991;1404917069;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what's it take to be a market maker ? 750992;1404917117;ThickAsThieves;https://hitbtc.com/mm 750993;1404917118;assbot;Conditions for Market Makers / hitbtc 750994;1404917334;mircea_popescu;so as a mpex update : all 8 drives + the raid controller are going to be cut up. replacements are going in. mpex won't be back today, but i expect it to be back tomorrow. 750995;1404917336;mircea_popescu;FabianB ^ 750996;1404917370;ThickAsThieves;dont forget to tweet that all our bitcoins are safe too 750997;1404917408;mircea_popescu;well i would if only i hadn't killed andreas. 750998;1404917423;mircea_popescu;but yes, bitcoin has nothing to do with this, this is the trade engine. 750999;1404917569;pankkake;so you don't want to ask for your twitter account back? 751000;1404917583;mircea_popescu;what, for free ? 751001;1404917592;pankkake;yes 751002;1404917605;mircea_popescu;mno. 751003;1404917605;pankkake;they have not invented the unban-for-pay yet 751004;1404917610;mircea_popescu;twitter wants me tweeting, it gotta pay. 751005;1404917658;mircea_popescu;the trial account has gone as far as it'll go. 751006;1404917695;indiancandy1;mm 751007;1404917700;pankkake;well, for now redditards think they accomplished something 751008;1404917710;mircea_popescu;they have lol. 751009;1404917725;mircea_popescu;they made twitter an iota less relevant. 751010;1404917730;pankkake;teaching them to be a mob? 751011;1404917747;mircea_popescu;which i guess is good for reddit, in some perspective. 751012;1404917758;pankkake;0 is 0 - I'm not arguing that you should twit, twitter is an useless website for useless people etc. 751013;1404917777;kakobrekla; they made twitter an iota less relevant. < just like a drop of shit can ruin a bottle of wine, a drop of wine doesnt fix the bottle of shit, ya know. 751014;1404917796;mircea_popescu;pankkake you know, that account is old. i had a two year or so gap in there, some time they "upgraded" their website. 751015;1404917848;pankkake;what am I arguing for is, show them they accomplished nothing 751016;1404917907;pankkake;twit "Hail ISIS, behead Roger Ver and Andreas Whatshispoulos" 751017;1404917915;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla nolo contendere 751018;1404917932;mircea_popescu;pankkake why should it be upon me to educate other people's children ? 751019;1404917949;mircea_popescu;let them think whatever they wish, they'll stil get killed if they step on the line. 751020;1404917953;mike_c;isn't that what you're doing here? 751021;1404917974;mircea_popescu;mike_c only accidentally. 751022;1404918004;mircea_popescu;i mean, i don't in any sense mind if it happens, but it's not a goal. 751023;1404918196;chetty;best goals = ones you don't have 751024;1404918221;mircea_popescu;tell that to brazil. 751025;1404918228;ThickAsThieves;the goal is always better on the other side 751026;1404918351;mircea_popescu;so should i buy some APCs just in case argentina loses and then it's argentina-brazil for 3rd place ? 751027;1404918361;mircea_popescu;what's the odds on invasion ? 751028;1404918371;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 751029;1404918379;mircea_popescu;bish learn how to wot already, this is getting stale. 751030;1404918389;indiancandy1;okay im doing now 751031;1404918399;indiancandy1;did you see the game got put on pornhub young brazilians get fucked by entire german soccer team 751032;1404918431;ThickAsThieves;logs.bitcoin-assets.com 751033;1404918453;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/eEE7kcI.jpg 751034;1404918463;ThickAsThieves;oops 751035;1404918464;ThickAsThieves;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ 751036;1404918464;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 751037;1404918556;mircea_popescu;lol 751038;1404918644;mircea_popescu;These world-class formations contain even more energy resource potential than previously understood, which is important information as we continue to reduce our nations dependence on foreign sources of oil, said Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell. We must develop our domestic energy resources armed with the best available science, and this unbiased, objective information will help private, nonprofit an 751039;1404918645;mircea_popescu;d government decision makers at all levels make informed decisions about the responsible development of these resources. 751040;1404918645;mircea_popescu;A key component of President Obamas all-of-the-above energy strategy is the availability of sound science to guide informed decision-making regarding the safe and responsible development of Americas domestic energy resources. 751041;1404918647;mircea_popescu;The USGS undertook this assessment of the Bakken and Three Forks Formations as part of a nationwide project assessing U.S. petroleum basins using standardized methodology and protocol, said Acting Director of the USGS Suzette Kimball. Through this improved understanding of our energy resources, government, industry, and citizens are better able to understand our domestic energy mix and make wiser decisions fo 751042;1404918652;mircea_popescu;r the future. 751043;1404918662;mircea_popescu;all this fucking insistence on how it's scientific and standardised and everything makes me suspicious already. 751044;1404918679;mircea_popescu;fortunately i'm not into minerals. 751045;1404918701;ThickAsThieves;thats a lot of words to not say much 751046;1404918715;ThickAsThieves;we looked at energy and decided we need to be smart about energy 751047;1404918741;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves nah it's this supposedly major deposit in dakota, upgraded from 3bn barrels to 7bn, 751048;1404918752;mircea_popescu;tho afaik previously it was held as unproductive. 751049;1404918760;ThickAsThieves;scamz 751050;1404918770;los_pantalones;they used to vertical drill 751051;1404918772;los_pantalones;now they are fracking 751052;1404918778;los_pantalones;and it's quite successful 751053;1404918789;mircea_popescu;yeah i was gonna say, this is shale 751054;1404918793;los_pantalones;yes 751055;1404918797;mircea_popescu;so better tech may account for it. 751056;1404918819;los_pantalones;they put a pipe in a 3 ft wide layer of rock 10k feet below ground 751057;1404918840;los_pantalones;and 10-20k feet horizontal 751058;1404918972;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones they still holding on to that gulf moratorium ? or did that go away 751059;1404918978;mircea_popescu;i've really not been following energy 751060;1404919021;nubbins`;"unproductive" is dynamic anyway 751061;1404919039;nubbins`;there was a time when western canada's tar sands were unproductive 751062;1404919046;mircea_popescu;true. 751063;1404919047;nubbins`;then the price of oil rose 751064;1404919083;nubbins`;they tried fracking inside a UNESCO world heritage site here last year 751065;1404919087;mircea_popescu;lol 751066;1404919091;indiancandy1;:( 751067;1404919092;mircea_popescu;how did that go ? 751068;1404919103;indiancandy1;i cant take this shit 751069;1404919105;nubbins`;everybody freaked the fuck out, now there's a fracking moratorium 751070;1404919115;nubbins`;golf claps all around 751071;1404919159;los_pantalones;gulf back open for biz, i believe 751072;1404919161;mircea_popescu;lol i wonder how her frustration graph looks 751073;1404919394;fluffypony;this is how I imagine stealing a shipping container would go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMS6iCrsqRA 751074;1404919394;assbot;Bieremy jak leci ! - YouTube 751075;1404919634;mircea_popescu;lol right 751076;1404920015;mircea_popescu;fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2yWIHCase0 this ore like it 751077;1404920015;assbot;Forklift truck Crash with container on it - YouTube 751078;1404920028;fluffypony;*clicks* 751079;1404920135;ThickAsThieves;http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/09/copay-beta-an-open-source-multisig-wallet.html 751080;1404920136;assbot;Copay (beta), An Open Source Multisig Wallet | The BitPay Blog 751081;1404920139;fluffypony;omw 751082;1404920146;fluffypony;that poor driver 751083;1404920169;mircea_popescu;fucking dangerous these things, because people are tards and don't properly balance them 751084;1404920171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.0153515 = 0.5066 BTC [-] {4} 751085;1404920172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01401 = 0.7005 BTC [-] 751086;1404920212;los_pantalones;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqYAQb_f3Y 751087;1404920212;assbot;Epic Forklift Fail Compilation Part 2 - YouTube 751088;1404920221;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHP9h8zYD0 << anyway this one is fresh and was lulzy 751089;1404920221;assbot;Container ship sails straight to shore - Hong Kong April 6, 2014 - YouTube 751090;1404920476;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01638889 = 0.6556 BTC [+] 751091;1404920477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.01401 = 0.5604 BTC [-] 751092;1404921391;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 38 @ 0.0160001 = 0.608 BTC [-] 751093;1404921635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75509789 BTC to 11`739 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 751094;1404924626;benkay; TheNewDeal what's an asshole in the dark. // huh i coulda sworn you were talking about the differences just recently 751095;1404925844;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1000 @ 0.00085105 = 0.8511 BTC [-] 751096;1404925933;jurov;wow is this second longest mpex downtime ever? 751097;1404926437;chetty; yeah mpex seems to eat disk drives 751098;1404926597;pankkake;no ssds? 751099;1404927446;Mats_cd03;ssds are anathema 751100;1404927475;pankkake;why? 751101;1404928115;Mats_cd03;with the added cost you get faster io. i bet mpex isn't io bound 751102;1404928155;mircea_popescu;jurov: wow is this second longest mpex downtime ever? yea. 751103;1404928182;Mats_cd03;wear leveling TRIM silent and catastrophic failure modes etc 751104;1404928193;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 the only problem with ssds is that they're more difficult to properly decomission 751105;1404928227;Mats_cd03;define decommission 751106;1404928239;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not hard at all! magnesium ribbon. 751107;1404928261;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 remove from production 751108;1404928267;kakobrekla;blend them. 751109;1404928286;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: blend << nope. enemy will fish out intact dies. 751110;1404928299;kakobrekla;from dust? 751111;1404928318;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: go blend a thumb drive, see what you get. 751112;1404928325;kakobrekla;this 751113;1404928326;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2eNhPC8wCQ&feature=kp 751114;1404928326;assbot;"Will It Blend" Series Tests Patriot Flash Drive for Durability - YouTube 751115;1404928327;Mats_cd03;mircea_popescu: owing to what is basically two layers of raid? 751116;1404928356;asciilifeform;other, 'gentle' idea, dissolve 'windows' into the eeprom with nitric acid. replace cover. when time to decommission, use a UV lamp. 751117;1404928371;asciilifeform;the drive can even be sold after this, or used in 'civilian' application. 751118;1404928380;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 well yes, for one thing they're in a 1+0 raid. for the other thing it';s not like i'm letting them reach the end of wear levelling 751119;1404928402;mircea_popescu;higher end drives have good diags on the drive anyway. 751120;1404928418;kakobrekla;baj 751121;1404928419;kakobrekla;bah 751122;1404928429;kakobrekla;the problem of that video is that its not full enough 751123;1404928434;kakobrekla;see here 751124;1404928434;kakobrekla;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofgMueCOqo 751125;1404928435;assbot;Will It Blend? - iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3 - YouTube 751126;1404928438;kakobrekla;it is DUST. 751127;1404928455;kakobrekla;tell me what you gonna get out of that phone 751128;1404928470;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla usable nand memories can be 1sq mm 751129;1404928491;kakobrekla;pour it down the drain 751130;1404928503;kakobrekla;spread the ashes by the sea 751131;1404928514;mircea_popescu;well im not actually doing this at home. 751132;1404928515;kakobrekla;while taking your girls for a walk 751133;1404928523;kakobrekla;well how do you know its done then 751134;1404928527;ThickAsThieves;aha! ive secured 1mm of mpex drive! 751135;1404928529;mircea_popescu;so what, im going to ask for oceanview in my provision spec ? 751136;1404928532;ThickAsThieves;youre done for 751137;1404928580;kakobrekla;anyway blending and proper disposal of dust = win 751138;1404928654;asciilifeform;other variant: you can get a 100mW diode laser for 100 usd or so. zap the dies right through the package. 751139;1404928683;kakobrekla;harder to get blind with a blender. 751140;1404928687;mircea_popescu;currently i wanna find out what the holy shit is happening tho, because this ain't normal. 751141;1404928691;asciilifeform;one could even set up an array of these, in sealed box, for a given type of drive 751142;1404928692;mircea_popescu;then they can just get incinerated. 751143;1404928704;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: still have mains power issues ? 751144;1404928729;mircea_popescu;nope. 751145;1404928771;pankkake;Mats_cd03: modern ssds give detailed SMART data, and have far less returns than hard drives. moreover, scrubs and rebuilds of RAIDs are much faster 751146;1404928788;asciilifeform;nope as in 'installed guaranteed sinusoidal power source', eliminated the possibility even in theory ? 751147;1404928807;pankkake;hard drives used to have that premium 5 year warranty, it's gone down to 3 years, while premium ssds now offer 10 years 751148;1404928821;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nope as in nothing shows up on measurements. 751149;1404928885;mircea_popescu;pankkake Mats_cd03 i was on the ssds suck technologically bandwagon for many years. the past few however it's pretty much groundless. 751150;1404928888;mircea_popescu;ssds matured. 751151;1404928914;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: consider posting a firmware dump of one such drive. 751152;1404928937;jborkl;mpex offline? 751153;1404928978;asciilifeform;example of how to get 'shell' on a 'seagate' disk: https://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/Home 751154;1404928978;assbot;Fixing a Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drive 751155;1404929024;asciilifeform;(yes - you can fuck with the os of an hdd. i hope this is a 'revelation' to no one.) 751156;1404929028;pankkake;the only issue with a SSD is a security one. if you use full disk encryption, you have to consider that the "change key" operation might leave a copy of the old key in the spare area 751157;1404929051;asciilifeform;pankkake: any disk crypt scheme where the key lives on disk is nuttery 751158;1404929072;asciilifeform;as if spindle drives didn't swap sectors silently 751159;1404929148;pankkake;I don't mean private key, I mean the metadata block. i.e. what luks does 751160;1404929156;pankkake;it's awfully convenient 751161;1404929253;chetty;convenient tends to = risky 751162;1404929403;Mats_cd03;so encrypt swap with a random key? 751163;1404929405;pankkake;http://www.hardware.fr/articles/920-6/disques-durs.html http://www.hardware.fr/articles/920-7/ssd.html (stats from biggest French retailer) 751164;1404929405;assbot;Disques durs - Les taux de retour des composants (10) - HardWare.fr 751165;1404929406;assbot;SSD - Les taux de retour des composants (10) - HardWare.fr 751166;1404929419;asciilifeform;know what else is 'convenient'? surrendering. 751167;1404929434;asciilifeform;if insist on convenient, just go to enemy & surrender. 751168;1404929484;pankkake;it just means I cannot change my key securely, and have to rewrite the data. so what? 751169;1404929491;kakobrekla;dont be the party pooping deer. 751170;1404929518;chetty; if insist on convenient, just go to enemy & surrender.<<+1 751171;1404929531;Mats_cd03;does LUKS even default to including metadata? iirc it was plain format 751172;1404929569;pankkake;no, LUKS *is* the metadata 751173;1404929585;mircea_popescu;since we're on this, http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173108-researchers-crack-the-worlds-toughest-encryption-by-listening-to-the-tiny-sounds-made-by-your-computers-cpu 751174;1404929585;assbot;Researchers crack the world’s toughest encryption by listening to the tiny sounds made by your computer’s CPU | ExtremeTech 751175;1404929588;mircea_popescu;mostly for the pic 751176;1404929592;asciilifeform;old news 751177;1404929605;asciilifeform;dissected here ~2 months ago 751178;1404929668;mircea_popescu;wait, and luks isnt ?! 751179;1404929698;asciilifeform;!s inductors 751180;1404929699;assbot;9 results for 'inductors' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=inductors 751181;1404929733;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2013#425691 751182;1404929733;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 751183;1404929975;mircea_popescu;Girls Around Me is a simple app that takes your location, and then queries Foursquare and Facebooks location APIs to find any girls (or boys) that are geographically close. Youre then shown a map, powered by Google, with faces (pulled from Facebook profiles) pinned to it. 751184;1404929977;mircea_popescu;!up colinistheman 751185;1404929989;mircea_popescu;i can't believe THAT didn't sell for 20bn 751186;1404929998;asciilifeform;'girls around me' << ancient scandal. as i recall, it was censored. 751187;1404930039;colinistheman;Hi guys 751188;1404930040;mircea_popescu;"whores around me" would prolly work even better. 751189;1404930050;colinistheman;Thought I'd drop back in mircea 751190;1404930065;mircea_popescu;colinistheman wb. so, mind getting in the wot so i can get bb his knife ? 751191;1404930070;asciilifeform;'whores around me' << if 'uber taxi', why not this. 751192;1404930087;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform actually... taxi callgirl! 751193;1404930097;asciilifeform;aye. 751194;1404930125;colinistheman;What do I do exactly? 751195;1404930131;mircea_popescu;"send me three at 48th and 9th." " with girls or without ?" "umm bob... your gf coming ? uhh... ok, two with one without please" 751196;1404930149;colinistheman;I added 15 new knives today. They are at the bottom of the page when it's set to "unsorted" 751197;1404930162;mircea_popescu;colinistheman http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 751198;1404930162;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 751199;1404930246;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: just as people who never considered becoming cabbies are now whoring in 'uber', 'whores around me' would probably work the same magic in its own field. 751200;1404930259;asciilifeform;and, naturally, such an app could only work in btc 751201;1404930266;mircea_popescu;naturally. 751202;1404930273;mircea_popescu;i guess we gotta build our own phone. 751203;1404930297;asciilifeform;why does everything have to run on a pNohe ? 751204;1404930325;colinistheman;this series of instructions is a little overwhelming 751205;1404930330;colinistheman;i've never used a GPG key before 751206;1404930365;jurov;colinistheman you can start with btc addy 751207;1404930377;colinistheman;that sounds easier 751208;1404930385;colinistheman;you mean, instead of a key? 751209;1404930390;jurov;but gpg is basic education around here 751210;1404930400;colinistheman;I'll probably have to learn it at some point 751211;1404930419;mircea_popescu;indeed. 751212;1404930430;jurov;yes btc addy has privkey and can sign things 751213;1404930441;Mats_cd03;;;tslb 751214;1404930447;mircea_popescu;btc is like, yu know, the car. it doesn't exist out of a vacuum. if yu want to be a decen mechanic, and even to be a good driver 751215;1404930449;gribble;Time since last block: 8 minutes and 22 seconds ago 751216;1404930459;mircea_popescu;you'll have to know about things a little under the hood, like encryption 751217;1404930499;chetty;well at least learn to change a tire before you get behind the wheel 751218;1404930564;colinistheman;;;eregister colinistheman 1CLoPNdpVwRcTovEu1JCsuD9aQ2riXWLAS 751219;1404930564;gribble;Error: '1CLoPNdpVwRcTovEu1JCsuD9aQ2riXWLAS' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. 751220;1404930575;colinistheman;oh, I thought you said I could use my public key 751221;1404930583;colinistheman;*bitcoin key 751222;1404930603;mike_c;;;bcregister 751223;1404930604;gribble;(bcregister ) -- Register your identity, associating bitcoin address key with . should be a standard-type bitcoin address, starting with 1. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address key, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. 751224;1404930625;mircea_popescu;i wonder why this is a common mistake 751225;1404930636;colinistheman;;;bcregister colinistheman 1CLoPNdpVwRcTovEu1JCsuD9aQ2riXWLAS 751226;1404930637;gribble;Request successful for user colinistheman, hostmask colinistheman!~colinisth@unaffiliated/colinistheman. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9177b607b37f4d96238bb085f90659242452a37931b87d554336aa9a 751227;1404930653;colinistheman;it's in the instructions, but the instructions do not show the command ;;bcregister 751228;1404930681;mircea_popescu;http://www.propublica.org/images/ngen/gypsy_big_image/gt_fort_meade_630x420_130830.jpg << one wonders, why the fuck not just make a garage already. 751229;1404930695;mircea_popescu;ah i see 751230;1404930713;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: afaik - world's largest parking lot. 751231;1404930754;jurov;cuz all underground levels got claimed? 751232;1404930782;asciilifeform;underground parking is only built when land costs something 751233;1404930798;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform land costs a lot. 751234;1404930810;asciilifeform;not to usg 751235;1404930812;mircea_popescu;i can probably identify employees by the age old "distance to gate" metric 751236;1404930816;mircea_popescu;it's hierarchical after al. 751237;1404930833;mircea_popescu;i can probably use the satellite pics to uncover the entire lift of employees. 751238;1404930837;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: even easier. most u.s. military installations have named (!) parking spots for the brass 751239;1404930844;mircea_popescu;for that matter, i probably already have. 751240;1404930849;asciilifeform;'this spot belongs to Col. Smith' 751241;1404930853;mircea_popescu;so yes, it costs a shitton 751242;1404930887;mircea_popescu;anyway, in sum, if i were co there i'd fire myself over this pic. 751243;1404930902;colinistheman;;;everify [freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9177b607b37f4d96238bb085f90659242452a37931b87d554336aa9a] 751244;1404930902;gribble;Error: "freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9177b607b37f4d96238bb085f90659242452a37931b87d554336aa9a" is not a valid command. 751245;1404930908;mircea_popescu;no [] 751246;1404930913;colinistheman;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9177b607b37f4d96238bb085f90659242452a37931b87d554336aa9a 751247;1404930913;gribble;Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found. 751248;1404930925;mircea_popescu;bcverify 751249;1404930932;colinistheman;;;bcverify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9177b607b37f4d96238bb085f90659242452a37931b87d554336aa9a 751250;1404930932;gribble;Error: Authentication failed. Please try again. 751251;1404930939;colinistheman;I am honestly confused as to what I am doing right now 751252;1404930949;mircea_popescu;me too. wtf that failed ?! 751253;1404930952;jurov;this doesn't look like btc signature 751254;1404930953;colinistheman;it says error 751255;1404930964;mircea_popescu;oh. 751256;1404930969;mircea_popescu;colinistheman you gotta encrypt it 751257;1404930992;colinistheman;ok I will have to give this more attention and try again later 751258;1404930997;jurov;didn't you just publish your privkey? 751259;1404931008;mircea_popescu;jurov looks like the challenge string 751260;1404931012;asciilifeform;lol 751261;1404931013;colinistheman;no private key 751262;1404931022;jurov;ic 751263;1404931029;colinistheman;ok I will have to give this more attention and try again later 751264;1404931036;asciilifeform;incidentally, someone (with coin to spare) should do this experiment. 751265;1404931051;asciilifeform;throw a 1 btc privkey somewhere, count how long until snarfed 751266;1404931095;colinistheman;I am wondering if this will be worth my time 751267;1404931108;rithm;nope. 751268;1404931115;colinistheman;lol 751269;1404931121;jurov;colinistheman: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication 751270;1404931124;assbot;Bitcoin address authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 751271;1404931132;mircea_popescu;colinistheman this is pretty much the only thing you could be doing that's worth your time. 751272;1404931162;colinistheman;It's over my head sorry. I am a busy man 751273;1404931163;rithm;shhhh mircea_popescu don't lie to the guy 751274;1404931191;mircea_popescu;you know what the vietnamese fisherman working for two rice patties a day said ? 751275;1404931198;rithm;nuh uh 751276;1404931203;mircea_popescu;that he's a busy man. 751277;1404931218;*;rithm facedesks 751278;1404931224;colinistheman;luckily i sell knives instead of rice 751279;1404931227;colinistheman;higher profit margin 751280;1404931228;mircea_popescu;rithm hey, you were asking for it. 751281;1404931232;colinistheman;and automated sales coming in is great 751282;1404931234;fluffypony;colinistheman: pity you sell shitty knives 751283;1404931244;colinistheman;why the mean? 751284;1404931251;FabianB;$traded 751285;1404931252;fluffypony;no Fallkniven, no Benchmade 751286;1404931259;rithm;colinistheman but sderiously registering an identity is super important 751287;1404931264;rithm;no one will take you seriously 751288;1404931267;fluffypony;just the normal crap that Americans buy because they read it was good on /r/survival 751289;1404931286;colinistheman;http://knives4bitcoin.com/products/german_damascus_vg-10_knife,_speed_assisted_ao_large_folding_knives_pocket_g-10.php 751290;1404931287;assbot;Knives4Bitcoin.com - German Damascus VG-10 Knife, Speed Assisted A/O Large Folding Knives Pocket G-10 751291;1404931289;rithm;until you give gribble a handjob 751292;1404931299;colinistheman;fluffypony: That one is a nice knife 751293;1404931307;colinistheman;handmade 200 layers of damascus steel 751294;1404931317;mircea_popescu;i thought damascus steel was a lost recipe 751295;1404931319;fluffypony;colinistheman: anything with Damascus steel is fun, but that doesn't mean it has a movement that will withstand abuse 751296;1404931322;colinistheman;I have a limited number of them. 751297;1404931325;rithm;oh so spam is the game 751298;1404931328;rithm;i see now 751299;1404931343;colinistheman;any steel can be abused. obviously you have to know how to take care of your knife. 751300;1404931350;colinistheman;such as oiling it 751301;1404931372;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yes - the original method is no longer known, but the modern equivalent is still pretty awesome in terms of how it keeps its edge 751302;1404931393;colinistheman;it's also made with high carbon steel so it holds the edge better for that reason as well 751303;1404931426;mircea_popescu;isn't high carbon bad ? 751304;1404931429;mircea_popescu;as in, pig iron ? 751305;1404931442;colinistheman;1095hc is a good steel. you have to keep it oiled tho 751306;1404931451;colinistheman;holds an edge better than 440 stainless 751307;1404931459;rithm;but rusts 751308;1404931465;colinistheman;yes, as does all high carbon steel 751309;1404931466;colinistheman;that's the trade off 751310;1404931470;colinistheman;but oiling it after use keeps it good 751311;1404931482;colinistheman;liek i said yhou have to know how to care for it 751312;1404931504;rithm;what about leaving fresh blood on the blade? 751313;1404931512;rithm;is that a lubricant or oxidizing agent? 751314;1404931520;colinistheman;lol 751315;1404931523;colinistheman;oxidizing 751316;1404931534;rithm;i wasn't sure thanks! 751317;1404931536;colinistheman;ok :) 751318;1404931546;Mats_cd03;lol 751319;1404931549;colinistheman;yeah, blood, guts, water, all bad for knives 751320;1404931557;colinistheman;but its ok to use them as long as you clean them up 751321;1404931565;mircea_popescu;josh's blood is prolly a derperizing agent. 751322;1404931630;rithm;stop joshing around 751323;1404931650;mircea_popescu;a ok 751324;1404931650;fluffypony;heh 751325;1404931684;mircea_popescu;http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/ << check out what our friend came up with 751326;1404931685;assbot;Speculative Attack | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute 751327;1404931706;mircea_popescu;a new name for gresham's law. 751328;1404931711;mircea_popescu;!up CryptOprah 751329;1404931779;mircea_popescu;anyway, this part's goo : 751330;1404931779;mircea_popescu;Second, they misunderstand how strong currencies like bitcoin overtake weak currencies like the dollar: it is through speculative attacks and currency crises caused by investors, not through the careful evaluation of tech journalists and 'mainstream consumers'. 751331;1404931802;colinistheman;if I feel adventurous in setting up all this stuff later I'll be back. g'day! 751332;1404931820;rithm;ya''l scared him away 751333;1404931829;mircea_popescu;i like how people keep pretending like they got an option and whatnot. 751334;1404931881;mircea_popescu;nothing quite like the illusion of immediate control. 751335;1404932107;mircea_popescu;anyway, all our friend needs to do now is look up to see who's doing the speculative attacks against the dollar and he'll be like i dunno... five steps ahead of the crowd ? 751336;1404932246;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: who's doing the speculative attacks against the dollar << 'a dead lion can be kicked even by a donkey' 751337;1404932294;mircea_popescu;how about a desperate, moribund lion ? 751338;1404932328;asciilifeform;that one will slam into walls often. less work for donkey. 751339;1404932451;punkman;http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/9/5883651/texas-lawyer-sues-tor-for-providing-tools-used-by-revenge-porn-site 751340;1404932452;assbot;Texas lawyer sues Tor for providing tools used by revenge porn site | The Verge 751341;1404932543;mircea_popescu;lol "sues tor" 751342;1404932557;mircea_popescu;ima fall over myself laughing if the us navy ends up paying this guy 751343;1404932602;asciilifeform;lawyers can also have problems. 751344;1404932611;punkman;hilarious lawyer: https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/233081133?access_key=key-WFujAqEI3BioFxNO43R3 751345;1404932680;mircea_popescu;he's suing an actual party it seems 751346;1404933038;punkman;https://twitter.com/MeanTXLawyer/status/459698519771582464 751347;1404933039;assbot;So many places I wish I could be now. Buddy's bachelor party. NRA annual meeting. AmRen conference. But alas, low on funds :( 751348;1404933078;mircea_popescu;don't worry assbot. you're here with us and that's ass that matters. 751349;1404933215;punkman;http://revengepornwar.blogspot.com/ another genius here 751350;1404933215;assbot;Dispatches from the Revenge Pornography War 751351;1404933219;benkay; i wonder why this is a common mistake // it turns out that making interfaces that normal humans find intuitive is actually hard. 751352;1404933249;mircea_popescu;in this case the problem seems to be that ;;bc stuff is never mentioned explicitly. 751353;1404933269;mircea_popescu;was about to bitch about it, but then i realised there's wisdom in moiety's terseness. 751354;1404933280;benkay;interface is education 751355;1404933284;mircea_popescu;let the lazy have extra chances to self humiliation, it's a good selection exercise. 751356;1404933297;benkay;and seriously - use gpg. 751357;1404933313;benkay;it's not like your .gnupg dir will expire, unlike your wallet backups. 751358;1404933343;mircea_popescu;punkman the notion that anyone still cares... 751359;1404933355;mircea_popescu;benkay but some are busy people. 751360;1404933386;benkay;160 hours a week in the paddy 751361;1404933395;chetty;something very wrong when you are too busy to stretch your mind 751362;1404933422;rithm;http://hyperledger.com/faqs.html#hackednode 751363;1404933427;rithm;oooh hyper-ledger 751364;1404933470;mircea_popescu;"If a node gets hacked there are only a few ways it can impact the system, but it cant force good nodes to accept forged transfers. Generally, individual bad nodes will quickly be automatically identified and expelled from the consensus pool." 751365;1404933473;mircea_popescu;that made a lot of sense. 751366;1404933492;rithm;dude it's cooler than bitcoin it's hyper 751367;1404933496;rithm;and it's a ledger 751368;1404933504;rithm;no 51%!!!!! 751369;1404933540;mircea_popescu;"Bobynin's voice rang like metal on metal. 'I can see the difference between you and me: you need me, but I don't need you.'" 751370;1404933544;rithm;What if there are two ledgers with the same name in different pools? 751371;1404933544;rithm;This is an open question up for discussion 751372;1404933547;rithm;lololol 751373;1404933632;mircea_popescu;hahah 751374;1404933637;mircea_popescu;better reg that name. 751375;1404933675;rithm;hyperbank 751376;1404933682;rithm;hypercash 751377;1404933688;rithm;hyperdollars 751378;1404933726;mircea_popescu;begging for hyperherp 751379;1404933749;rithm;discuss: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/486926129409052672 751380;1404933750;assbot;I can no longer have even the smallest association with the Bitcoin Foundation, because of the complete lack of transparency 751381;1404933823;fluffypony;hah 751382;1404933827;fluffypony;it took him this long to realise that? 751383;1404933827;Mats_cd03;so brave 751384;1404933842;mircea_popescu;you see what a good killing does to people ? 751385;1404933855;mircea_popescu;can he stil have association with neobee ? anyone asked him yet ? 751386;1404933935;rithm;can i ask for a refund for my bitcoin foundation donation 751387;1404933945;rithm;i'd like to take that back 751388;1404933971;rithm;i'm an enabler 751389;1404933980;kakobrekla;donation implies onewaynesses 751390;1404934018;mircea_popescu;rithm lots of dumb things you can't take back. way the world goes. 751391;1404934039;rithm;superman did it that one time 751392;1404934054;benkay;that entropic gradient... 751393;1404934115;mircea_popescu;did he spin on a dildo really fast ? 751394;1404934170;asciilifeform;'You ever drop an egg and on the floor you see it break? / You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake. / But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true, / if you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new. / That's entropy...' 751395;1404934214;mircea_popescu;also known in romanian as "copilu' minune minca gem si caca prune" 751396;1404934232;mircea_popescu;ie, the wunderkid, eatin' jam an' shittin' prunes. 751397;1404934605;nubbins`;heh 751398;1404934615;nubbins`;drinking wine and pissing grape juice 751399;1404934649;HyperChetty;http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Rocket-alert-sirens-sound-in-Zichron-Yaakov-120-km-north-of-Gaza-362087 751400;1404934649;assbot;Hamas: We attempted to hit the nuclear reactor in Dimona | JPost | Israel News 751401;1404934689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0372999 = 0.5968 BTC [+] 751402;1404934691;mircea_popescu;i wonder what these people think hitting a nuclear plant will do. 751403;1404934704;mircea_popescu;i mean unless they've got actual bunker busters they're no treaching the core. so... 751404;1404934704;asciilifeform;see french example 751405;1404934712;asciilifeform;(answer: nothing) 751406;1404934740;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/20/world/antitank-rockets-are-fired-at-french-nuclear-reactor.html 751407;1404934740;assbot;ANTITANK ROCKETS ARE FIRED AT FRENCH NUCLEAR REACTOR - NYTimes.com 751408;1404934807;asciilifeform;still a headache for the folks who have to walk around with clipboard, check off what needs new paint job 751409;1404934825;nubbins`;more of a make-work project than an attack 751410;1404934831;mircea_popescu;myeah. 751411;1404935020;fluffypony;;;later tell darlidada everything seems to be working 100%, need your email address to create the user account for you - let me know 751412;1404935020;gribble;The operation succeeded. 751413;1404935036;nubbins`;;;gettrust assbot cazalla 751414;1404935036;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask cazalla!cazalla@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe73:590b. Trust relationship from user assbot to user cazalla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014 751415;1404935084;Mats_cd03;iron dome paying dividends; thanks uncle sam 751416;1404935098;nubbins`;so i printed some nice big 18x24" posters today 751417;1404935106;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/GGg3JC2 751418;1404935107;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 751419;1404935148;mircea_popescu;who's jess smith 751420;1404935160;nubbins`;one third of Pink Eye :D 751421;1404935183;Mats_cd03;im sure hamas'd have better luck pointing rockets at power stations 751422;1404935186;mircea_popescu;how anti-french of you three. 751423;1404935191;Mats_cd03;whoevers running the show, sucks 751424;1404935203;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 o bviously they're going for pr. 751425;1404935213;nubbins`;http://theovercast.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/PinkEye.jpg 751426;1404935223;nubbins`;almost looks like we know what we're doing 751427;1404935282;mircea_popescu;woa dude you look old. i always saw you as this peter pan sorta 22 yo 751428;1404935296;nubbins`;lel 751429;1404935298;nubbins`;nah, old man 751430;1404935363;nubbins`;in fact, that french rocket attack article was published 10 days before i was born ;o 751431;1404935476;asciilifeform;'In France protesters fired an RPG-7 grenade-launcher at the reactor of a nuclear power station. Where they got the Soviet-made weapon I do not know. Perhaps it was just lying there at the roadside. But if it was a spetsnaz officer who had the good fortune to meet those people and provide them with their hardware, he would without further ado have been given a Red Banner medal and promotion. The senior officers 751432;1404935476;asciilifeform;of the GRU have a particular dislike of Western nuclear power stations, which reduce the West's dependence on imported oil (including Soviet oil) and make it stronger and more independent. They are one of spetsnaz's, most important targets.' 751433;1404935495;asciilifeform;(suvorov, 'spetsnaz.' http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html) 751434;1404935495;assbot; -- 751435;1404935524;nubbins`;interesting 751436;1404935588;mircea_popescu;d'oh. 751437;1404935589;nubbins`;alf, i bet you've got quite the collection of books in your study 751438;1404935598;asciilifeform;who doesn;t 751439;1404935614;nubbins`;many 751440;1404935634;Mats_cd03;related, http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/02/05/qa-what-you-need-to-know-about-attacks-on-the-u-s-power-grid/ 751441;1404935635;assbot;Q&A: What You Need to Know About Attacks on the U.S. Power Grid - Corporate Intelligence - WSJ 751442;1404935661;asciilifeform;'what you need to know' - 'nothing.' (usg) 751443;1404935664;nubbins`;"We need to make books cool again. If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, don't fuck them." -John Waters 751444;1404935695;Mats_cd03;tl;dr cooling room filled with bullets, station subsequently fails to cool, suspects utilize AKs and cover of darkness to circumvent shit security 751445;1404935710;asciilifeform;phun phact re: substations. the transformers are quite expensive, not many are manufactured. 751446;1404935772;nubbins`;right, isn't this the reason a solar flare or w/e could fuck us all royally? 751447;1404935825;asciilifeform;copper thieves have destroyed considerably more mains transformers in usa than saboteurs with kalash, but the news blackout regarding these is nearly total. 751448;1404935845;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i much prefer clueless-ignorant women to misguided-ignorant women. 751449;1404935868;mircea_popescu;someone with no books i'd fuck. someone with a shitton of "social studies" and assorted crap published the past century i definitely wouldn't 751450;1404935881;mircea_popescu;but i'd count it as a major personal failure if i somehow ended up going home with them in the first place. 751451;1404935929;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not newsworthy. 751452;1404935964;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://news360.com/article/247244651 751453;1404935967;assbot;GMO Mosquito Trial Has Reverse Effect, Causes Dengue Emergency 751454;1404936122;nubbins`;friend of mine had dengue, no fun 751455;1404937253;benkay;we were noodling on the homegrown EMP this morning. 751456;1404937640;Mats_cd03;;;tslb 751457;1404937650;gribble;Time since last block: 8 minutes and 41 seconds 751458;1404939802;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 751459;1404939957;indiancandy1;hey friends 751460;1404939996;asciilifeform;greetings human. 751461;1404940244;benkay;shalom 751462;1404940267;indiancandy1;shalom aint heard that word in years 751463;1404940272;indiancandy1;you jewish? 751464;1404940279;indiancandy1;jambo 751465;1404940427;benkay;;;ud jambo 751466;1404940428;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jambo | 99% of washing line crime convictions in 2013 were held accountable to 'jambo's' or the 'scumbos' as they have become better known. They mostly inhabit a ... 751467;1404940464;benkay;funny how gribble's not returning the website's #1 result for that. 751468;1404940626;benkay;http://online.wsj.com/articles/fed-sets-october-end-for-bond-buying-1404928864 // i thought the bond purchases were still in full force? 751469;1404940627;assbot;Fed Sets October End for Bond Buying - WSJ 751470;1404940725;mircea_popescu;o this should be interesting. 751471;1404940760;mike_c;sort of end. they are still going to buy bonds with interest on their existing bonds. 751472;1404940792;mircea_popescu;there's no practical difference between these. 751473;1404940905;mircea_popescu;what im curious is, what tiny nation will suddenly be buying 50x its gdp worth of us bonds this autumn 751474;1404941239;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ua, who else. 751475;1404941261;mircea_popescu;naa 751476;1404941296;mircea_popescu;it should have been sa if they weren't such annoying shitheads forcing the best country in thr world to rely on their 2nd pedo choice. 751477;1404941348;mircea_popescu;hk would have also been great, except... problems. maybe it can be arranged for japan ? 751478;1404941572;HyperChetty; what im curious is, what tiny nation will suddenly be buying 50x its gdp worth of us bonds this autumn//the caliphate 751479;1404941599;mircea_popescu;with the saudis money, if they get that far ? perhaps. 751480;1404941605;mircea_popescu;!up ak_ 751481;1404941634;asciilifeform;HyperChetty: insha'allah. 751482;1404941661;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 751483;1404941676;mircea_popescu;sooo... was the netherlands winning or what ? 751484;1404941701;indiancandy1;omg 751485;1404941711;indiancandy1;im on mfc and this guy just shot his load in his own mouth 751486;1404941713;indiancandy1;impresive 751487;1404941743;indiancandy1;hey friendsjambo is hello in swahilli btw 751488;1404941752;HyperChetty;world cup 0-0 so far 751489;1404941755;mod6;mircea_popescu: it's tied nil-nil, @ 75 min 751490;1404941783;mircea_popescu;mod6 near miss a minute ago ? 751491;1404941800;HyperChetty;maybe I heard some shouts 751492;1404941811;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 i thought you didn't do cams ? 751493;1404941820;mod6;didn't see, just caught score. 751494;1404941890;mircea_popescu;This man, whom Stalin had trusted, was Adolf Hitler. 751495;1404941890;mircea_popescu;Stalin had looked on with approval and malicious delight as Hitler had overrun Poland, France and Belgium, as his bombers had darkened the sky over England. Molotov had come back from Berlin thoroughly frightened; agents reported that Hitler was transferring his forces eastward; Hess flew to England, and Churchill had warned Stalin of an attack. Every jackdaw in the woods of Byelorussia and on the poplars of Galicia h 751496;1404941891;mircea_popescu;ad shrieked war. Every peasant woman in every market-place in Russia had prophesied war day in and day out. Only Stalin had remained unperturbed. 751497;1404941891;mircea_popescu;He had trusted Hitler... 751498;1404941905;mircea_popescu;o wow, so i'm not the only guy to have noticed stalin's boyish infatuation with hitler ?! 751499;1404941908;mircea_popescu;til. 751500;1404941909;indiancandy1;i do 751501;1404941916;indiancandy1;i do cam i just do toys 751502;1404941929;asciilifeform;suvorov (given name rezun) certainly noticed. 751503;1404941930;indiancandy1;find me 751504;1404941934;indiancandy1;xsexyindianx 751505;1404942067;mircea_popescu;do you use a burka or something ? 751506;1404942284;indiancandy1;a burka? 751507;1404942288;indiancandy1;im not muslom 751508;1404942427;Mats_cd03;lol 751509;1404942440;mod6;how about sharpies? 751510;1404942549;HyperChetty;muslim porn, whats that? ankles? 751511;1404942586;indiancandy1;ahaha 751512;1404942599;indiancandy1;i have a pic on my phone i wish i culd show u its a girl taing a selfie 751513;1404942613;indiancandy1;with a burka but the reflection of the mirror shes got a g string on 751514;1404942673;mircea_popescu;;;google girl selfie burka mirror g string 751515;1404942674;gribble;Top 10 Jeremy Clarkson gaffes - Telegraph: ; What it really feels like to wear the 'burqa' | Mail Online - Daily Mail: ; Hundreds of burqa-clad Afghan women in rare protest against ...: (1 more message) 751516;1404943127;mod6;mircea_popescu: on the near miss, it sounds like someone kicked it into the side of the net around the 75 mark. 751517;1404943277;mod6;30 minutes of extra time now, if still scoreless, i guess they go to penalty kicks 751518;1404943362;Mats_cd03;i wish it was unarmed single combat 751519;1404943420;mod6;to break the tie? i agree, penalty kicks are a shitty way to end a game. 751520;1404943517;thestringpuller;!up indiancandy1 751521;1404943734;indiancandy1;whats the score 751522;1404943892;mod6;nil - nil 751523;1404944027;benkay;"U.S. stocks rebounded after a two-day slide, as the Federal Reserve's meeting minutes soothed concerns over a potential increase in interest rates. 751524;1404944029;benkay;" 751525;1404944048;benkay;how does slowing down bond purchases imply a not increase in rates? 751526;1404944220;indiancandy1;;;google satanic lesbians 751527;1404944221;gribble;Christian radio host: Disney's 'Frozen' is Satanic tool for ...: ; Gay and Satanist - In praise of Satan: ; When Satanic Lesbians, Lying Mothers, Love Triangles, Ex-Gays ...: how does slowing down bond purchases imply a not increase in rates? << iwannabelieve.jpg 751540;1404946462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.03452288 = 5.351 BTC [-] {13} 751541;1404946611;asciilifeform;phun phact re: 'languages of the day' - http://effbot.org/pyfaq/why-isn-t-there-a-switch-or-case-statement-in-python.htm 751542;1404946611;assbot;Why isn't there a switch or case statement in Python? 751543;1404946621;asciilifeform;(answer: because derp) 751544;1404947135;mike_c;http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3103/ 751545;1404947135;assbot;PEP 3103 -- A Switch/Case Statement 751546;1404947151;mike_c;the real answer is worse: "A quick poll during my keynote presentation at PyCon 2007 shows this proposal has no popular support. I therefore reject it." 751547;1404947173;mike_c;that's a herp and a derp. 751548;1404947207;asciilifeform;language with no macros, where chump can't fix this omission himself: herp, derp, and... zerp ? 751549;1404947215;asciilifeform;(what comes after derp...?) 751550;1404947222;cazalla;indiancandy1: can you put the keyboard on your head? 751551;1404947257;mike_c;i don't mind no macros, and i'm surprised you like them. macros are the death of readability. 751552;1404947265;asciilifeform;c macros. 751553;1404947277;mike_c;there are better ones? 751554;1404947285;asciilifeform;http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LispMacro 751555;1404947287;assbot;Lisp Macro 751556;1404947310;asciilifeform;proper macros make a language cleanly user-definable 751557;1404947324;asciilifeform;eliminating 'language feature' derp-conventions 751558;1404947370;mike_c;interesting. 751559;1404949089;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: When did you stop having a Twitter account? 751560;1404949150;justusranvier;https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/326400019257257985 751561;1404954752;assbot;nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 751562;1404954843;benkay;!up nam-shub 751563;1404954847;benkay;hey there 751564;1404954878;nam-shub;thanks benkay, just looking to see if mp and mpex.co split or just mpex.co 751565;1404954884;benkay;split? 751566;1404954891;benkay;apparently mpex went down today 751567;1404954898;nam-shub;as in hasta luego 751568;1404954902;nam-shub;suckas 751569;1404954904;benkay;ah yeah i think mp's out 751570;1404954908;benkay;mircea_popescu: ping 751571;1404954924;benkay;;;gettrust nam-shub 751572;1404954924;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask nam-shub!~nam-shub@67.174.198.159. Trust relationship from user benkay to user nam-shub: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=nam-shub | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nam-shub | Rated since: never 751573;1404954938;benkay;well sheeeeit and who are you? 751574;1404954954;benkay;feel free to castigate me for noobery if that's appropriate 751575;1404954982;nam-shub;New name, for a new secret project 751576;1404955049;nubbins`;fun 751577;1404955117;mike_c;once a year the mpex raid array goes on summer vacation. 751578;1404955141;nam-shub;gettrust bloctoc 751579;1404955148;mike_c;ah, more fuel for BingoBoingo's summer heat theory. 751580;1404955213;nam-shub;;;gettrust bloctoc 751581;1404955213;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask nam-shub!~nam-shub@67.174.198.159. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user bloctoc to user bloctoc: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bloctoc&dest=bloctoc | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bloctoc | Rated since: Tue Oct 29 20:18:14 2013 751582;1404955248;mike_c;;;ident nam-shub 751583;1404955249;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'nam-shub', with hostmask 'nam-shub!~nam-shub@67.174.198.159', is identified as user 'bloctoc', with GPG key id ABFF7572BA373348, key fingerprint 2DD75790350D7D689339038DABFF7572BA373348, and bitcoin address None 751584;1404955483;mircea_popescu;benkay sup 751585;1404955585;mircea_popescu;justusranvier i guess that's a point, i should wipe trilema twitter links huh 751586;1404955621;mircea_popescu;mthreat just been for a spin around 9 de julio. not *that* crazy 751587;1404955669;mircea_popescu;nam-shub http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#750994 751588;1404955670;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 751589;1404955707;mthreat;mircea_popescu: i watched the game at the big screen at plaza san martin... it was crazy 751590;1404955708;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: you need to at least repost your "Coinpeople bitplease..." rant somewhere else so I can link to it when appropriate. 751591;1404955730;mircea_popescu;mthreat a, the luxurios life of the rich. 751592;1404955732;mthreat;if they somehow beat ze germans, it'll be crazy for 24 hours 751593;1404955734;justusranvier;That's one of my favorite tweets ever. 751594;1404955739;mircea_popescu;i've been mostly conferincing lol. gotta earn a living. 751595;1404955740;mthreat;mircea_popescu: it was free 751596;1404955748;mircea_popescu;mthreat you got your time :D 751597;1404955756;mthreat;mircea_popescu: futbol para todos 751598;1404955787;nam-shub;thanks for that mircea_popescu 751599;1404955790;mircea_popescu;justusranvier i think i have atwitter dumpo somewhere 751600;1404955797;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: because no one else asked, i will. what did herr xapo say when you added him to s.derp ? 751601;1404955821;mircea_popescu;if he said anything it'll be in tomorrow's summaries. i've only been talking to techs and spooks today 751602;1404955844;benkay;who is mfoundry? 751603;1404955861;nam-shub;bought by FIS global 751604;1404955877;benkay;o o 751605;1404955885;nam-shub;lots of fluorescent lighting 751606;1404955887;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: techs and spooks << anybody dump the hdd firmware ? 751607;1404955903;benkay;it's just a ruse to convince us that mp isn't an nsa plant 751608;1404955913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.03079906 = 0.924 BTC [-] 751609;1404955915;mircea_popescu;wait wut 751610;1404955940;benkay;;;rate rye 3 responsible, efficient, honorable. 751611;1404955941;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rye has changed from 2 to 3. 751612;1404955949;benkay;friendly fud 751613;1404955962;mircea_popescu;rye ?! 751614;1404955970;mircea_popescu;is this some ellaborate whiskey joke ? 751615;1404956000;benkay;mircea_popescu: you are the best candidate for the Frank Costello of bitcoin. 751616;1404956006;benkay;no man 751617;1404956008;benkay;he works for me 751618;1404956017;mircea_popescu;wait, was costello the stupid one ? 751619;1404956036;benkay;costello was the rat. 751620;1404956044;benkay;the one who survived by ratting out the competition for 20 years. 751621;1404956074;benkay;rye's doing the haich tee em ells and jay-esses on http://console.smartvineyards.net 751622;1404956075;assbot;Smart Vineyards 751623;1404956075;mircea_popescu;wasn't he the PM ? 751624;1404956101;benkay;prime minister? 751625;1404956136;TheNewDeal;demo not loading :( 751626;1404956144;benkay;turn on js. 751627;1404956153;benkay;also, chrome. 751628;1404956176;mircea_popescu;justusranvier http://www.datafilehost.com/d/635199a2 is a full twitter dump from late march, if you care. 751629;1404956176;assbot;Download tweets.zip 751630;1404956192;justusranvier;thanks 751631;1404956203;benkay;lol 5.4 mb of tweets 751632;1404956222;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Frank_Costello_-_Kefauver_Committee.jpg << not bad. 751633;1404956240;mircea_popescu;benkay it may have exscaped your notice, but im verbose. 751634;1404956305;TheNewDeal;I am using chrome, JS hasn't been turned off 751635;1404956341;benkay;fascinating. privacy/adblocking? 751636;1404956412;TheNewDeal;not running any of that stuff 751637;1404956422;TheNewDeal;errr 751638;1404956442;TheNewDeal;kaspersky 10 751639;1404956462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-] 751640;1404956477;TheNewDeal;seems like kaspersky isn't doing anything to restrict web 751641;1404956551;TheNewDeal;I have had trouble seeing bitcoincharts charts in chrome though, so might be my pc 751642;1404956558;mircea_popescu;btw, the song of the street here is " Brasil, decime qu se siente, tener en casa tu papa" 751643;1404956669;benkay;TheNewDeal: anything interesting in the console? 751644;1404956695;TheNewDeal;worked this time 751645;1404956718;benkay;hahaha 751646;1404956726;benkay;k, great. 751647;1404956744;benkay;worst part about js app development is the "try refreshing?" debugging method. 751648;1404956757;benkay;all this nasty state buried in the browser 751649;1404956805;TheNewDeal;try refreshing is better than "Have you tried turning it on an off again?" 751650;1404956814;benkay;it's the 2014 version of above 751651;1404957306;benkay;hey is blockr -assets blessed these days? 751652;1404957321;benkay;and on the converse, has blockchain.info lost its? 751653;1404957855;decimation;mircea re: US oil reserves: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-oil-20140521-story.html 751654;1404957856;assbot;U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96% - Los Angeles Times 751655;1404957880;decimation;I'm sure that they used the power of science to err by 96% 751656;1404957923;mircea_popescu;mineral reserves are always iffy business. 751657;1404957939;mthreat;mircea_popescu: no chaos? here's the crowd on a city bus (and the bus didn't stop) - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152582727778245 751658;1404958008;mircea_popescu;my flash is not good enough, but anyway. mebbe we mean different things by chaos. 751659;1404958018;TheNewDeal;and wti jumps nada 751660;1404958018;mircea_popescu;buncha people out singing. not like they burned a car or anything. 751661;1404958033;mthreat;well there's good chaos and bad chaos 751662;1404958038;mircea_popescu;:p 751663;1404958041;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal wti is not shale. 751664;1404958055;decimation;1970's era schematic CAD machine: http://vimeo.com/75532300 - uses various light masks to etch photoresist film, which is then developed and printed 751665;1404958055;assbot;The Diagrammer by Mergenthaler - 1970 on Vimeo 751666;1404958078;TheNewDeal;could west texas intermediate be a derivative of shale oil? 751667;1404958137;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal nah. and besides, it's been going crazy with respect to both brent and the middle east sorts. 751668;1404958152;mircea_popescu;wider spreads past coupla years than ever seen. 751669;1404958187;TheNewDeal;isn't there a relatively large premium of brent vs wti lately/ 751670;1404958201;mircea_popescu;yes. 751671;1404958207;TheNewDeal;gotcha 751672;1404958209;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-80262994/ << that's a good one. 751673;1404958210;assbot;LA Times 751674;1404958248;decimation;I wonder if this has to do with the oil distribution infrastructure in the us 751675;1404958326;mircea_popescu;decimation if it does, it hadn't for 30 years or so prior. 751676;1404958471;decimation;yeah, but the us hasn't been close to an oil exporter for that period 751677;1404958472;decimation;it will take years to build the pipelines to the areas that need them, and it will be even more years of political stalemate preventing the investment 751678;1404958532;mircea_popescu;what do you mean ? both canada and mexico have been exporting ? 751679;1404958556;decimation;e.g. http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/08/6541363/crude-oil-train-protests-planned.html 751680;1404958556;assbot;Crude oil train protests planned in Sacramento, Davis - Our Region - The Sacramento Bee 751681;1404958579;decimation;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html 751682;1404958580;assbot;U.S. Was Net Oil-Product Exporter for First Time Since 1949 - Bloomberg 751683;1404958706;mircea_popescu;jesus the economy is doing that bad ? 751684;1404958726;mircea_popescu;i guess 2 a gallon was unsustainable after all. 751685;1404958738;decimation;and the "people" think they have the luxury to protest oil moving through their town 751686;1404958786;mircea_popescu;sure they do. 751687;1404958850;mircea_popescu;The reason we can export so much is demand in the U.S. is weak, Cohan said. Since 2005, the U.S. has lost nearly 2 million barrels a day of total product consumption, he said. 751688;1404958853;mircea_popescu;ouch. 751689;1404958863;mircea_popescu;;;calc 2 * 4 * 365 751690;1404958863;gribble;2920 751691;1404958869;mircea_popescu;what's three billion. 751692;1404958929;decimation;it seems to me that if oil is so cheap, it should be burned for power, but I suspect USG has banned that too (to do it cheaply) 751693;1404958946;decimation;http://necoalition.org/necn-board-calls-moratorium-oil-trains/ 751694;1404958949;assbot;NECN Board calls for moratorium on oil trains - Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods 751695;1404959050;mircea_popescu;you have any idea how dirty crude burns ? 751696;1404959078;TheNewDeal;not sure, but it tastes to light and sweet 751697;1404959105;decimation;yeah, that's why ships are so nasty 751698;1404959133;mircea_popescu;ships mostly burn diesel. 751699;1404959138;decimation;I suspect if you tried to build a new refinery to burn it more cleanly they would protest that too 751700;1404959223;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#Bunker_fuel 751701;1404959223;assbot;Fuel oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 751702;1404959242;decimation;The most common residual fuels in the shipping industry are RMG and RMK.[4] ,,, Ships with more advanced engines can process heavier, more viscous, and thus cheaper, fuel. 751703;1404959300;mircea_popescu;note that 1-4 are distilates. 751704;1404959320;decimation;yeah, it's probably the shit that comes out the bottom of the refinery stack 751705;1404959345;mircea_popescu;pretty much 751706;1404959366;mircea_popescu;but anyway, ships are burning more and more diesel because of sulphur limitations 751707;1404959373;mircea_popescu;afaik by 2015 they'll burn nothing but. 751708;1404959408;decimation;if there is enough refinery capacity to make it 751709;1404959439;decimation;the same environmentalists would gladly shut down a gas plant "because environment" and thus force the old coal plant to burn 751710;1404959455;mircea_popescu;well no, not the same. 751711;1404959511;decimation;that's true, in the end it's entitled nimbys who think they can tell others what to do on their own land 751712;1404959594;mircea_popescu;neighbourhood 1 gets together to "do something for environment", blows up all the leaves with leafblowers. N2 pledges to stop eating beef so as to help reduce cowfart methane production. the importers normaly supplying them suffer a shock, a bunch of meat is discarded. 751713;1404959605;decimation;which is also the government's fault, because the land-use regulation in the US has effectively short-circuited the nuisance tort process 751714;1404959627;mircea_popescu;n3 is a small consumer with a large gas plant. they picket it and it's closed. large industry down the road needs power so even further coal plant is brough back online. 751715;1404959636;mircea_popescu;the result of idiots being politically involved. 751716;1404959655;decimation;exactly so 751717;1404959658;mircea_popescu;this has been known since forever as the noble lie. ie, most people have no fucking business giving their opinion in the forum. 751718;1404959716;decimation;a much more rational system would be this: your neighbor opens coal plant, pays you damages for blighting your skies, business is taken care of 751719;1404959727;mircea_popescu;they may mean well and act honorably, but they're fucking peas in the field. no way to know enough to form a meaningful opinion. 751720;1404959758;mircea_popescu;decimation there's no practical way to evaluate blighted skies. and the chinese don't wan to pay mongolia or w/e 751721;1404959759;decimation;but in the us, remote third parties suddenly have standing to tell you how to run your business 751722;1404959781;decimation;right, it's a subjective problem negotiated between rational property owners 751723;1404959800;decimation;in the us you don't have property owners or rationality 751724;1404959876;mircea_popescu;it's not really negotiable. 751725;1404959908;mircea_popescu;as i generally tell my neighbours that listed to the music too loud, "either turn it off or i'm going to kill you". 751726;1404959923;mircea_popescu;and as i tell my neighbours that complain about my music, "either get lost or i'm going to kill you" 751727;1404959943;decimation;lol well there's a certain level of tolerance required to have civilization 751728;1404960011;mircea_popescu;but the point is this is not negotiable. 751729;1404960015;mircea_popescu;the op has nothing to offer. 751730;1404960024;mircea_popescu;negotiation is, "i'll give you this silver for that pear" 751731;1404960037;mircea_popescu;if you don't like it you keep your pear and i keep my silver. 751732;1404960120;decimation;I guess this is where you go to the King and plead your case 751733;1404960155;mircea_popescu;see ? 751734;1404960173;mircea_popescu;there's no way to resolve the silence dispute without recourse to violence. 751735;1404960235;mike_c;you could pay them. you want silence, they want money. 751736;1404960257;mircea_popescu;mike_c suppose you're in a restaurant with a chick you're trying to impress. 751737;1404960267;decimation;it seems to me that the general self-restraint of the population is important here 751738;1404960267;mircea_popescu;lemon band is playing awfully badly, so you pay them 20 mn to stfu 751739;1404960274;mircea_popescu;xapo opens two feet away. 751740;1404960284;mircea_popescu;trust me. you can't do it without violence. 751741;1404960304;mircea_popescu;decimation that "self restraint" is your circular way of begging violence 751742;1404960315;mircea_popescu;"i don't have to beat them personaly but merely remind them of how their parents beat them" 751743;1404960325;mircea_popescu;well... what if their parents didn't ? what if it's the united states of chimpanzees ? 751744;1404960342;decimation;yeah I think Carlyle would agree with you: "Deduct what they carried with them from England ready-made, -- their common English Language and that same Constitution, or rather elixir of constitutions, their inveterate and now, as it were inborn, reverence for the Constable's Staff; two quite immense attainments which England had to spend much blood, and valiant sweat of brow and brain, for centuries long in achieving; -- and what new 751745;1404960343;decimation;elements of polity or nationhood, what noble new phasis of human arrangement, or social device worthy of Prometheus or of Epimetheus, yet comes to light in America? " 751746;1404960395;mircea_popescu;decimation moreover, the market is provedly awful at allocating silence. london was nothing but a gray mist for most of modernity. 751747;1404960424;mircea_popescu;generally as cixi aptyl observed, capitalism is fucking loud. 751748;1404960524;decimation;yeah I don't see any way out of the problem other than having a king/judge make subjective decisions backed up with the threat of violence 751749;1404960571;justusranvier;https://twitter.com/JustusRanvier/status/487065835681234946 751750;1404960575;mircea_popescu;so you know... for all the conservative displeasure with the global government... 751751;1404960632;mircea_popescu;justusranvier lmao awww, and i didn't even get to sell any d.cbse 751752;1404960718;decimation;we already have global government, it seems to me. my objection to it is its horrible cost/benefit ratio - the problem mostly being the ungovernable masses 751753;1404960737;mircea_popescu;well because it's trying to solve problems that it has no business being involved in. 751754;1404960766;mircea_popescu;but mind that the eu was quite successful while it limited itself to imposing things like the euro1-2-3-4 car emission standards. 751755;1404960832;decimation;actually I think the idea mix of government is weak global regulation below strong local soverignty 751756;1404960878;mircea_popescu;that didn't parse. 751757;1404960950;decimation;well, it's true that sovereignty is binary, either you rule or you don't 751758;1404961004;mircea_popescu;decimation suppose i have a slavegirl. am i sovereign over her or aren't i ? 751759;1404961045;decimation;depends which government you live under, but assuming anarchy, I would say you are 751760;1404961065;mircea_popescu;as an aside, mpex update : hardware changed and tested, os installed and failed. os reinstalled and failed. hardware retested and failed (!!!). hardware rechanged. tested, passed, tested, passed, os resintalled, tested. 751761;1404961072;mircea_popescu;things are progressing smothly in the manner of fml. 751762;1404961097;mircea_popescu;decimation so suppose i want to go down on her and she says her period started this morning. can i now order her to unperiodize herself ? 751763;1404961155;decimation;obviously this is an impossible task, and you are not in a position to demand such a thing from nature 751764;1404961165;TheNewDeal;what does that have to do with sovereignity? 751765;1404961174;mircea_popescu;i thought you had just said i was sovereign. 751766;1404961184;mircea_popescu;tell stalin it can't be done, not me. 751767;1404961233;TheNewDeal;you could still go down on her, that's your sovereign power ;) 751768;1404961233;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal is flying an impossible taks ? 751769;1404961250;decimation;re: upgrades http://xkcd.com/349/ 751770;1404961251;assbot;xkcd: Success 751771;1404961256;TheNewDeal;depends on your definition of flight 751772;1404961261;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: can i now order her to unperiodize herself << minor nitpick. this is actually possible. 751773;1404961269;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not retroactively. 751774;1404961270;asciilifeform;;;google menstrual extractor 751775;1404961271;gribble;Menstrual extraction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Menstrual Extraction | WomensHealthSpecialists.org: ; Menstrual Extraction - Sister Zeus: 751776;1404961279;mircea_popescu;no dude i don't want an ersatz. 751777;1404961305;decimation;you make a good point mircea, human sovereignty is always tragically limited 751778;1404961337;mircea_popescu;i mean, the girl being a good slave may die trying 751779;1404961348;mircea_popescu;but the interface between sovereignity and productivity is iffy at best. 751780;1404961366;mircea_popescu;xerxes famously ordered the hellespont around, for that matter. 751781;1404961398;mircea_popescu;they *did* whip it for failing to obey. 751782;1404961420;asciilifeform;actually you can order reality around. it just takes a while to figure out how to speak the language to 'order' in. 751783;1404961425;asciilifeform;i.e. technology 751784;1404961451;asciilifeform;it's that, or 'whip the sea' 751785;1404961455;*;mircea_popescu points stan to chapter 20ish of the book in question. 751786;1404961543;mircea_popescu;what'd bobynin say to abakumov ? 751787;1404961556;*;asciilifeform recalls that xerx ordered the hellespont not only whipped, but... branded 751788;1404961585;mircea_popescu;i think so yeah 751789;1404961720;decimation;technology (in certain respects) has been getting better, but it seems to me the problems faced are "np-hard" 751790;1404961790;mircea_popescu;it's not even scientific, for that matter. 751791;1404961823;*;mircea_popescu names decimation the new head of the secret service. order #1 : arrest all the dissenters so that the population remains > 0. 751792;1404961881;decimation;suicide with wooden sword is in order 751793;1404961890;mircea_popescu;over a political problem ?! 751794;1404961981;mike_c;;;calc (193000 / [ticker --last]) - 314.6 751795;1404961982;gribble;-3.81095008052 751796;1404961985;decimation;well the solution to your order lies somewhere between ghandi and stalin 751797;1404962003;mike_c;warren's losing. 751798;1404962091;asciilifeform;decimation: 'ghalin' ? 751799;1404962095;mircea_popescu;o hey, argentina made someone 30ish btc 751800;1404962121;mircea_popescu;decimation the solution obviously is, "make an ideology to which dissent is a self limiting condition" 751801;1404962160;TheNewDeal;wasn't it you? 751802;1404962183;mircea_popescu;mebbe. 751803;1404962188;mircea_popescu;buttcoins are anonymous. 751804;1404962195;mircea_popescu;bbl 751805;1404962516;decimation;good point 751806;1404975174;fluffypony;http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/62349/sa-to-fork-out-5-billion-for-brics-bank/ 751807;1404975175;assbot;SA to fork out billion for BRICS bank 751808;1404975176;fluffypony;BRICS countries are getting a bank 751809;1404977447;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you should see the hq ICBC has here. 751810;1404977641;mircea_popescu;that said, the thing is quite retarded. 751811;1404989524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.20393333 = 6.118 BTC [-] {3} 751812;1405000900;penguirker;http://www.coindesk.com/new-study-low-bitcoin-transaction-fees-unsustainable/ duh 751813;1405000911;penguirker;http://www.coindesk.com/former-us-mint-director-save-bitcoin-regulators/ not dumb 751814;1405001235;artifexd;In a world without assbot, only the other bots can speak... (Read in the voice of Don LaFontaine) 751815;1405001246;BingoBoingo;%t 751816;1405001250;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 224 Ask: 279 Last Price: 225 24h-Vol: 179k High: 225 Low: 225 VWAP: 224 751817;1405001254;BingoBoingo;%ob 751818;1405001256;atcbot;39k@300 22k@299 722@279 | 50k@224 12k@221 300k@220 751819;1405001266;BingoBoingo;%d 751820;1405001267;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 514955.60 in 1268 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -34.41 751821;1405001349;mike_c;logs are busted? 751822;1405001367;BingoBoingo;Well, assbot keeps them... 751823;1405001373;mike_c;yes? 751824;1405001378;pankkake;and he wasn't there 751825;1405001389;mike_c;but he is here now. and i don't see logs. 751826;1405001411;mike_c;oh. fine, make me look stupid. now it's logging. 751827;1405001414;pankkake;http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/10/0351215 reposting my unlogged link 751828;1405001415;assbot;SoylentNews | Curve41417: New ECC Curve Bumps Speed/Security Baseline 751829;1405001415;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.7995 BTC for No on "Germany wins World Cup" http://bitbet.us/bet/993/ Odds: 63(Y):37(N) by coin, 64(Y):36(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.01404948 BTC. Current weight: 94,376. 751830;1405001723;HyperChetty;Theres that old joke in Washington: that the definition of a camel is a race-horse designed by a Congressional committee. 751831;1405001747;fluffypony;lol 751832;1405001953;xmj;there we goo 751833;1405002230;HyperChetty;http://www.cujournal.com/news/tiny-atm-card-skimmer-blink-and-youll-miss-it-and-lose-50k-1022932-1.html 751834;1405002232;assbot;Tiny ATM Card Skimmer -- Blink and You ll Miss It (and Lose $50K) - Web Only Article | Credit Union Journal 751835;1405003120;HyperChetty;Germany took the dramatic step Thursday of asking the top U.S. intelligence official in Berlin to leave the country, 751836;1405003258;thestringpuller;;;ident 751837;1405003259;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None 751838;1405003900;jurov;lol dramatic is the right word 751839;1405004315;mircea_popescu;!up punkman 751840;1405004743;punkman;https://blockchain.info/address/1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo << what's up with "Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends." 751841;1405004743;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo 751842;1405004932;mircea_popescu;probably orphans 751843;1405004943;mircea_popescu;i dunno 751844;1405006837;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 751845;1405006839;gribble;Current Blocks: 310104 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 359 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17122068160.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.8052 751846;1405007499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01438989 = 0.7195 BTC [+] 751847;1405007621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 45 @ 0.01439 = 0.6476 BTC [+] 751848;1405007717;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/10/isis_uranium_iraq_rebels_seized_low_grade_nuclear_material_from_university.html 751849;1405007717;assbot;ISIS uranium: Iraq rebels seized "low-grade" nuclear material from university in Mosul. 751850;1405007780;Mats_cd03;nice 751851;1405007830;Mats_cd03;more rogue nuclear material in the wild 751852;1405007987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76646065 BTC to 11`815 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 751853;1405008091;Mats_cd03;;;google nuclear terrorism the ultimate preventable catastrophe pdf 751854;1405008092;gribble;Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe: ; Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe - Council ...: ; Graham Allison: "The Ongoing Failure of Imagination" - ABC (1 more message) 751855;1405008158;Mats_cd03;worth a read - discusses missing material incl some soviet suitcase size weapons 751856;1405008338;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: only worth reading if there's a source other than alexander lebed circa 1997. 751857;1405008405;jurov;;;later tell mike_c in wol, adding 50% line into histograph would improve its readability 751858;1405008406;gribble;The operation succeeded. 751859;1405008430;mike_c;will do. 751860;1405008895;jurov;!up diatonic 751861;1405008902;jurov;!up JorgePasada 751862;1405008909;JorgePasada;!s Heyo 751863;1405008911;assbot;11 results for 'Heyo' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Heyo 751864;1405008913;jurov;!up ak_ 751865;1405008915;JorgePasada;Anyone else in London right now? 751866;1405008923;fluffypony;no - what's in London? 751867;1405008937;jurov;!up jadne 751868;1405008958;JorgePasada;Coin Summit 751869;1405008959;jurov;!up chax 751870;1405008963;JorgePasada;I'd auth myself but I'm lazy :-/ 751871;1405008966;JorgePasada;thx for the V 751872;1405008970;jurov;!up bitstein 751873;1405008980;JorgePasada;I'm lazy and I'd have to SSH into my box at home 751874;1405008988;jurov;!up samson_ 751875;1405008997;fluffypony;ah ok 751876;1405009009;jurov;Who's there? 751877;1405009017;jurov;in london i mean 751878;1405009085;fluffypony;jurov: he said already - Coin Summit 751879;1405009092;fluffypony;and I presume he is 751880;1405009114;jurov;so who's talking and derping there? 751881;1405009119;fluffypony;no clue 751882;1405009137;bitstein;When will the conferences end... 751883;1405009184;JorgePasada;Yeah 751884;1405009188;JorgePasada;I'm at coin summit 751885;1405009200;JorgePasada;All the derps :-) 751886;1405009200;jurov;they'll never... but they could do at least something marginally useful, like gpg signing parties 751887;1405009210;JorgePasada;Yeah, thems fun 751888;1405009218;bitstein;"CoinSummit London is a two day event connecting virtual currency entrepreneurs, angel and VC investors, hedge fund professionals and others" - so... the worst of the Bitcoin community 751889;1405009224;JorgePasada;Also, what was some something about mpex listing bitpay shares or something? 751890;1405009234;JorgePasada;I saw something in a headline or something 751891;1405009236;JorgePasada;saying a thing like that 751892;1405009240;JorgePasada;but I didn't see it 751893;1405009242;JorgePasada;er 751894;1405009242;jurov;mpex gonnalist derivatives 751895;1405009243;JorgePasada;read it 751896;1405009249;jurov;in DERP section 751897;1405009253;Mats_cd03;someone knows something about something 751898;1405009254;jurov;same as the other ones 751899;1405009286;jurov;once they get their spinning rust right 751900;1405009320;asciilifeform;http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_vault/2014/06/25/LgGanglandMap.jpg 751901;1405009378;JorgePasada;Ah, just found it on Reddit 751902;1405009388;mircea_popescu;JorgePasada yeah, you can buy bitpay and other bitcoin ventures 751903;1405009389;JorgePasada;Apparently some idiot doesn't know how to title things 751904;1405009405;JorgePasada;What are you basing the derivatives on? 751905;1405009417;JorgePasada;I'm assuming that's what they all are, not actual shares 751906;1405009432;jurov;asciilifeform what's that. ankh-morpork? 751907;1405009439;asciilifeform;chicago. 751908;1405009454;Mats_cd03;bitfury vaurum icbit mastercoin foundation bitgo btcf ethereum @ coinsummit 751909;1405009487;Mats_cd03;plenty of derps in with the bidness crowd 751910;1405009511;BingoBoingo;jurov: asciilifeform: Notive running right through the middle of the place is that giant open sewer 751911;1405009539;jurov;yes, that's why i guessed ankh 751912;1405009546;jurov;but chicago, ic 751913;1405009567;HyperChetty;asciilifeform, change it a few names and it would be perfectly up to date 751914;1405009593;mircea_popescu;JorgePasada f.derp backs them. 751915;1405009636;jurov;gonna blog about derps... once this debilitating gastroenteritis pain subsides 751916;1405009638;JorgePasada;mats_cd03 I like one and a half, maybe two of those 751917;1405009769;mircea_popescu;bitfury's ok afaik 751918;1405009769;HyperChetty;http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-jersey-28247796 751919;1405009769;assbot;BBC News - Jersey approves first regulated Bitcoin fund 751920;1405010216;jurov;!up CryptOprah 751921;1405010226;jurov;CryptOprah: tits 4 bitcoins? 751922;1405011509;*;punkman shakes titties for assbot 751923;1405012446;BingoBoingo;!up punkman 751924;1405012452;BingoBoingo;!up nam-shub 751925;1405012903;benkay;morning. 751926;1405012908;BingoBoingo;Mornin 751927;1405013156;thestringpuller;morning? 751928;1405013161;thestringpuller;i'm damn near done with my workday :P 751929;1405013198;benkay;my work day starts at 7, but i don't hit the tubes till ten or later. 751930;1405013284;HyperChetty;work is never done 751931;1405013441;benkay;hustle constantly 751932;1405014035;benkay;http://theconversation.com/bad-social-policy-not-ideology-is-to-blame-for-the-arab-worlds-downward-spiral-28632 751933;1405014036;assbot;Bad social policy, not ideology, is to blame for the Arab worlds downward spiral 751934;1405014055;benkay;i'm sorry, i don't understand the difference between said social policies and ideologies 751935;1405014410;mircea_popescu;wait what ? downward spiral ? 751936;1405014466;mircea_popescu;mptranslate : "the reason we're claiming the arabs are going down while they're clearly kicking our butts has nothing to do with [our] ideology and everything to do with SCIENCE! Honest!" 751937;1405014495;mircea_popescu;at this rate being a camwhore will be more respectable than being a scientist within our lifetimes. 751938;1405014851;benkay;http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/call-girl-accused-death-google-exec-wrote-facebook/story?id=24490129 751939;1405014852;assbot;Call Girl Accused With Death of Google Exec Wrote Facebook Post About 'Killing Sprees' - ABC News 751940;1405014859;benkay;beware the autoplaying video whose pause button doesn't work 751941;1405015013;benkay;http://technoccult.net/archives/2014/07/09/the-art-of-crxto/ 751942;1405015013;assbot;The Art of CRXTO | Technoccult 751943;1405015105;BingoBoingo;benkay: The pause button works perfectly for its master's purposes 751944;1405015255;HyperChetty; at this rate being a camwhore will be more respectable than being a scientist within our lifetimes.// I thought it already was 751945;1405015277;mircea_popescu;well, marginally, perhaps. 751946;1405015326;benkay;business partner's mother was in town recently, wanted to know what we'd pay for a master's degree 751947;1405015345;benkay;i told her that we have an inverted education incentive structure - the more school you've had, the less i'll pay you. 751948;1405015385;benkay;then she went off on the importance of education to what she does - shepharding 8 year olds around. 751949;1405015396;benkay;i declined to continue to conversation. 751950;1405015507;thestringpuller;and lemme guess benkay your future spawn is going to private school :P 751951;1405015572;benkay;actually i think i'm going to hire people to execute on curricula of my own design. 751952;1405015631;benkay;latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat 751953;1405015666;benkay;later - maths, natural philosophy, debate 751954;1405016210;benkay;dumb context free puns dot com for today: 751955;1405016214;benkay;CannaBSD 751956;1405016388;asciilifeform;'...injecting heroin to Google executive Forrest Hayes and never trying to help or to call authorities when it was clear something had gone terribly wrong...' 751957;1405016447;benkay;http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/09/article-2685918-1F81EC6600000578-372_634x770.jpg 751958;1405016526;asciilifeform;say what you like about soviet apparatchiks - but they weren't dope fiends. 751959;1405016705;asciilifeform;incidentally, this is what a 'clean' hit looks like. none of the nailgun nonsense. exec gets slightly more than his usual dose... 751960;1405016891;asciilifeform;benkay: the more school you've had, the less i'll pay you << how does this work? do you hire detectives to ferret out folks with secret diplomas? 751961;1405016940;benkay;well i certainly don't hire masters degree holders to stand by the crank and turn it all day 751962;1405017005;jurov;asciilifeform ever heard about "alnagon"? 751963;1405017035;jurov;at least around here, some apparatchiks went on prescription meds 751964;1405017043;asciilifeform;analogous to soviet 'analgin' ? 751965;1405017054;jurov;perhaps. 751966;1405017061;benkay;analagous analgesics 751967;1405017117;benkay;analagous analgesics appetite for apparatchiks appears absolutely abnormal 751968;1405017122;asciilifeform;hmm apparently not. 'alnagon' is phenobarbital. 751969;1405017173;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/ 751970;1405017174;assbot;MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 751971;1405017218;mircea_popescu; latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat << is this a woman you're raising here ? 751972;1405017260;mircea_popescu; incidentally, this is what a 'clean' hit looks like. none of the nailgun nonsense. exec gets slightly more than his usual dose... << only works on stalin, and execs who actually do drugs. 751973;1405017312;mircea_popescu;jurov caffeine / codeine / phenobarbital ? 751974;1405017317;jurov;yes 751975;1405017322;mircea_popescu;nuts. 751976;1405017352;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if power supply issues can be ruled out entirely - it is entirely conceivable that zapping the drives was the actual goal of the enemy. why? perhaps to lead to new ones being bought from a diddled supply chain. 751977;1405017369;benkay;(and after all, there’s nothing wrong with changing keys once a year anyway) // what, mpex gets to rotate keys, but nobody else gets to rotate the keys they use on mpex? 751978;1405017372;benkay;humbug 751979;1405017382;pankkake;funny, just made the same comment 751980;1405017384;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform in the immortal words of pesto, that ain't gonna work. 751981;1405017399;benkay; latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat << is this a woman you're raising here ? // statistically likely 751982;1405017411;mircea_popescu;benkay ok, ima have mpex charge mpex for it. 751983;1405017413;benkay;any of the above not necessary for either boys or girls? 751984;1405017429;mircea_popescu;benkay no, i just had a moment of drool at the thought someone somewhere is making me a dollie :D 751985;1405017432;benkay;no no, let me charge you, for it. 751986;1405017479;pankkake;I don't know what you are doing with the raids, but scrubing the raid and checking smart data regularly could probably reduce those kind of occurences 751987;1405017496;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's checked daily. 751988;1405017501;mircea_popescu;it most recently passed this morning. 751989;1405017505;pankkake;weird 751990;1405017517;mircea_popescu;no ?! 751991;1405017563;pankkake;my regular checks allowed me to replace drives before they fail, so just saying 751992;1405017594;thestringpuller;is mpex.co still down? 751993;1405017598;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller yes 751994;1405017599;jurov;pankkake: regardless of checks, ever had half of the drives fail aat once? 751995;1405017600;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you have not previously installed cameras on the machine cabinet, now might be a good time. 751996;1405017604;pankkake;and WD was nice enough to exchange my last drive even though my evidence was thin 751997;1405017616;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and some cameras on the cameras box ? 751998;1405017626;thestringpuller;is trading down? 751999;1405017636;pankkake;jurov: anything's possible, I came close once but no 752000;1405017637;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller look a little up just added a report. 752001;1405017663;pankkake;the thing is, "once" is actually a long time, the time you can change the drive and rebuild 752002;1405017680;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: can't imagine it would cost much to have 'biorobots' monitor the cams in shifts. 752003;1405017687;mircea_popescu;pankkake this shit's supposed to take hotswapping for that matter. 752004;1405017709;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if it won't cost much, then it won't cost much to have them... not monitor the cameras, for five minutes. 752005;1405017716;pankkake;I mean the time to obtain a hard drive if you don't have a spare (and the time to rebuild) 752006;1405017719;asciilifeform;lol 752007;1405017741;mircea_popescu;pankkake there were two spares ready to go, and the rebuild is seamless, no downtime. 752008;1405017760;mircea_popescu;(this actually happened a number of times, most recently about 3 days ago. i even said so, at the time) 752009;1405017818;pankkake;while you're rebuilding, you are in a vulnerable state. hence the "fail half at once" has a higher chance to occur than you would think 752010;1405017839;mircea_popescu;it took half an hour and was complete long before yesterday. 752011;1405017862;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2014#746652 752012;1405017863;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 752013;1405017873;pankkake;takes 24h for me :( but I guess mpex doesn't have as much data 752014;1405017928;mircea_popescu;the trade engine doesn't really keep that much, plus, tons of memory and cpu, which i think helps. 752015;1405017951;pankkake;just store everything in memory 752016;1405017988;mircea_popescu;the difference between ram chips and ssd drives is mostly academic. 752017;1405017988;jurov;pankkake you insist it happened naturally? 752018;1405018031;pankkake;never said anything of the sort 752019;1405018049;pankkake;I would suspect something with the host 752020;1405018097;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: compared drive firmware before & after ? 752021;1405018098;pankkake;however, for raids with a lot of storage, drives failing all at once is more common than you would think 752022;1405018164;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/ 752023;1405018185;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/netagio-launches-exchange-gold-sterling-bitcoin-traders/ 752024;1405018185;assbot;Netagio Launches Exchange for Gold, Sterling and Bitcoin Traders 752025;1405018213;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the whole thing's being looked into. 752026;1405018264;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: did the lookers-into ever deliver an interesting verdict from last time ? 752027;1405018326;*;asciilifeform assumes mircea_popescu has enough sense to decide whether to answer this 752028;1405018391;mircea_popescu;yeah, there were some naked pics of obama. 752029;1405018400;asciilifeform;lol 752030;1405018412;pankkake;does he have a big ding dong? 752031;1405018456;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: clearly a provocation! everybody knows mr. o has duly used his 'dulap.' 752032;1405018517;asciilifeform;;;google site:trilema.com dulap 752033;1405018518;gribble;Romanian bloggers, part 2 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 # Romanian ...: 752034;1405018689;pankkake;http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/09/refusing-to-decrypt-data-6-months/ 752035;1405018690;assbot;Refusing to decrypt data for investigators gets student 6 months in jail 752036;1405018747;asciilifeform;pankkake: afaik this is SOP in the uk 752037;1405018771;pankkake;yeah - I just document all those cases 752038;1405018805;asciilifeform;in usa, it makes more sense to destroy the evidence (you'll typically get a long - but finite - sentence, vs. indefinite 'at the pleasure of the crown') 752039;1405019138;HyperChetty;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html 752040;1405019138;assbot;Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo - Telegraph 752041;1405019200;pankkake;cool 752042;1405019224;asciilifeform;more from the lulpharms: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/06/13/mother-of-7-in-jail-because-her-kids-skipped-school-dies-in-cell/?wpsrc=AG0003360 752043;1405019225;assbot;Mother of 7 in jail because her kids skipped school dies in cell - The Washington Post 752044;1405019446;asciilifeform;http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/northern-virginia-officials-worry-cia-facility-may-scuttle-bid-to-land-fbi-headquarters/2013/03/23/867ce358-924a-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_story.html << oldie but goodie. fbi wants to relocate, can't - turned out that the proposed new site already contains cia torture chambers. 752045;1405019447;assbot;Northern Virginia officials worry CIA facility may scuttle bid to land FBI headquarters - The Washington Post 752046;1405019503;mircea_popescu;lol the dulap lives! 752047;1405019524;mircea_popescu;pankkake isn't calling it a "ding dong" the lulziest thing ever ? 752048;1405019546;pankkake;well yes 752049;1405019546;mircea_popescu;i lost an erection to the fact that chick went all "o look the ding dong" and then everyone spent the next half hour cracking up 752050;1405019777;HyperChetty;http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-take-graphic-photos-teen-evidence 752051;1405019778;assbot;Police to take graphic photos of teen as evidence 752052;1405019977;mircea_popescu;pankkake it was actualy an hour and a half, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2014#746561 to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2014#746652 752053;1405019978;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 752054;1405019978;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 752055;1405019984;pankkake;isn't that doubly illegal? asking for child pornography + 5th amendment 752056;1405020024;mircea_popescu;HyperChetty ahah that's just nuts. 752057;1405020034;mircea_popescu;srsly, "provide us with a pic of your penis" ?! 752058;1405020089;asciilifeform;incidentally, the current fbi bldg. is a titanic monster 752059;1405020093;asciilifeform;a true 'ministry of love' 752060;1405020109;asciilifeform;on account of its planned demolition, everyone should see it and marvel. 752061;1405020136;asciilifeform;and given as no one would go there just to see, here's some pics - http://imgur.com/2FIpuIy,FzMqMR9,NP0uzz5,IFSX1eE,HNMQjdq,bCs3u7l,pn5XiLa,nboYysE,ZOibTdz,2LXc9IW 752062;1405020136;assbot;Ministry of Love - Imgur 752063;1405020160;asciilifeform;there's even... a moat. 752064;1405020168;mircea_popescu;looks just like the "cultural center" of some obscure eastern soviet town 752065;1405020169;asciilifeform;(photo no. 5) 752066;1405020211;asciilifeform;this is the most 'soviet' achitectural marvel i've personally seen here. 752067;1405020241;asciilifeform;when you walk by, you can almost feel the weight of that penthouse. 752068;1405020244;pankkake;I don't know why, I like those soviet buildings 752069;1405020258;mircea_popescu;Alix Tichelman << joish whores ?! 752070;1405020315;asciilifeform;notice (photo no. 9) the 'visitor' door - nailed shut. 752071;1405020315;mircea_popescu;Investigators took Tichelman's fingerprints from the wine glass, according to KGO-TV. An obituary posted in the Santa Cruz Sentinel describes Hayes as a husband and father to five children. 752072;1405020315;mircea_popescu;"More than anything else he enjoyed spending time with his family at home and on his boat," the obituary said. "His brilliant mind, contagious smile, and warm embrace will be missed and cherished in memories by his friends and family." 752073;1405020331;mircea_popescu;well... that's one dumb wore ; perhaps not more than ANYTHING 752074;1405020463;mircea_popescu;https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8247736320/hBF1E6920/ lol 752075;1405020505;*;asciilifeform chokes 752076;1405022675;HyperChetty;http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/10/scholarly-journal-retracts-60-articles-smashes-peer-review-ring/ 752077;1405022676;assbot;Scholarly journal retracts 60 articles, smashes ‘peer review ring’ - The Washington Post 752078;1405022705;fluffypony;youch 752079;1405022746;mircea_popescu;ha! 752080;1405022784;pankkake;Journal of Vibration and Control <= scientific dildos 752081;1405022833;mircea_popescu;basically twitter/reddit/etc are the most successful of these "scientific journals" things/. 752082;1405022876;pankkake;they are a good example of "rent-seeking" 752083;1405022946;pankkake;as a scientist you have to be published by those things. and be cited 752084;1405022959;pankkake;no surprise some are trying to game the system 752085;1405022983;*;HyperChetty bets its more than some 752086;1405022992;mircea_popescu;waiting for the 8,5 million articles retraction by 1-2k "social sciences" publications due to a 50k strong peer fraud ring. 752087;1405023005;mircea_popescu;roughly equal to most of the english speaking "academia" 752088;1405023175;pankkake;http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/apollo-astronaut-climate-alarmism-biggest-fraud-field-science 752089;1405023175;assbot;Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science | CNS News 752090;1405023334;mircea_popescu;"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed." 752091;1405023334;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 752092;1405023572;rithm;let's start a peer review ring 752093;1405023626;mircea_popescu;i'd rather start a slug farm. 752094;1405023636;fluffypony;let's start a circlejerk! 752095;1405023733;mircea_popescu;what's wrong with the current one ?! 752096;1405023739;fluffypony;point 752097;1405023778;fluffypony;15 - LOVE 752098;1405023929;HyperChetty;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOr2H6Dupk 752099;1405023929;assbot;Elephants react to sirens after Hamas launches rockets into israel. - YouTube 752100;1405024043;mike_c;b-a peer review process: put an ID on each blog entry in blogs.b-a. if you have voice you can !rate a blog post. then bash-like page with best rated posts, etc. 752101;1405024045;mircea_popescu;no homo. 752102;1405024099;mircea_popescu;mike_c i think the most peer review that's happened to date was me slapping around benkay's employees. 752103;1405024099;mike_c;if we wanted such a process, which afaik nobody does. 752104;1405024117;mike_c;i peer review people that use too many footnotes. 752105;1405024120;mircea_popescu;there's been some unpeer review too, through which i ended up simpleminded psychotic and so, but... 752106;1405024161;mike_c;you do seem to get into it with benkay's staff. doesn't xmj work for him? 752107;1405024166;mircea_popescu;actually i suppose every time someone discusses someone else's blogpost here that's peer review 752108;1405024194;mircea_popescu;i think he lives in hipstertown, 1 hip street. 752109;1405024370;mircea_popescu;https://www.cert-bund.de/ebury-faq if anyone missed this btw 752110;1405024370;assbot;Ebury SSH Rootkit - Frequently Asked Questions 752111;1405024378;mircea_popescu;mostly for "The network of cPanel Inc.'s support department was compromised and machines used for connecting to customers' servers were found to be infected with Ebury" 752112;1405024471;HyperChetty;well I would wish disease on cPanel but it seems I am too late 752113;1405024959;HyperChetty;http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/09/refusing-to-decrypt-data-6-months/ 752114;1405024960;assbot;Refusing to decrypt data for investigators gets student 6 months in jail 752115;1405025144;mircea_popescu;yup was in log! 752116;1405025229;fluffypony;so ANX basically just made Xapo worthless: http://debitcard.anxintl.com 752117;1405025230;assbot;ANX International Bitcoin Debit Card 752118;1405026206;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'ebury' << the interesting part is that the piece in the link is merely a payload. the actual anal opening through which the payload was inserted - was never, afaik, found. 752119;1405026239;asciilifeform;likewise - any idiot can compile a doctored sshd. 752120;1405026242;mircea_popescu;!s cpanel 752121;1405026242;assbot;4 results for 'cpanel' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cpanel 752122;1405026245;mircea_popescu;^ 752123;1405026290;asciilifeform;yes, i'm aware it is old news 752124;1405026304;mircea_popescu;no i mean, the hole being cpanel 752125;1405026316;asciilifeform;aah 752126;1405026489;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'Customers can change their keys as often as they wish. The more responsible actually do' << seriously, people eat the 30 btc cost ? 752127;1405026505;mircea_popescu;well, 20 really. 752128;1405026512;asciilifeform;aha refer bonus 752129;1405026522;mircea_popescu;i mean i guess you could technically not use old acct as a ref but why would you. 752130;1405026536;mircea_popescu;and why the hell wouldn't they ?! 752131;1405026553;mircea_popescu;you have any idea what a key refresh costs a serious entreprise ? 752132;1405026567;mircea_popescu;20 btc to cover for mpex fee isn't even on the map. 752133;1405026752;asciilifeform;what a key refresh costs a serious entreprise << of course, this is well known. and also is one reason why 'serious enterprises' tend to get pwned regularly. 752134;1405026770;mircea_popescu;the unserious serious ones, anyway. 752135;1405026778;asciilifeform;lol 752136;1405026791;mircea_popescu;for that matter, what's that 20btc buy you, alternatively ? 1/85th of a second of superbowl commercial ? 752137;1405026798;mircea_popescu;an oil change on the corp jet ? 752138;1405026837;asciilifeform;a 20-reel pick-n-placer. 752139;1405026844;mircea_popescu;no. not it does not. 752140;1405026856;asciilifeform;well, a chicom one 752141;1405026860;mircea_popescu;that's what a 20 reel pick-n-placer costs stan's mom&pop picknplace emporioum 752142;1405026887;mircea_popescu;a corp trying to get one has prolly spend north of 10k just deciding whether it should be painted green or red. 752143;1405026902;*;asciilifeform had the good fortune to oversee more or less this process, knows this 752144;1405026916;mircea_popescu;well then whence all the suspension of knowledge lol. 752145;1405026939;asciilifeform;somehow i can't picture the folks buying 500 usd robot legs sitting on mpex 752146;1405026946;asciilifeform;still imagine it's full of humans 752147;1405026989;mircea_popescu;is this in the "i can't believe i know any dragons" category ? 752148;1405027036;asciilifeform;more like 'yeah he keeps a dragon in there, but most of what can be heard going in and out is motorcycles' 752149;1405027086;asciilifeform;not really disputing the dragon, it can be smelled. 752150;1405027102;mircea_popescu;the Silent Shadow Dragon 752151;1405027106;asciilifeform;just that it must be a bit of a grind for the bikers 752152;1405027116;mircea_popescu;+500 dmg, backstab x5, critical hit, meld in shadows. 752153;1405027224;Mats_cd03;sounds like wow 752154;1405027234;mircea_popescu;it is like... wow! 752155;1405027267;Mats_cd03;thats bad and you should feel bad 752156;1405027299;mircea_popescu;wait wut ? 752157;1405027306;Mats_cd03;not a pun? 752158;1405027332;Mats_cd03;or a...whatevers youd call it 752159;1405027462;mircea_popescu;yeah it was a pun. 752160;1405027469;mircea_popescu;so why shgould i feel bad for my wunderbar poon ? 752161;1405027549;Mats_cd03;now im the one thats lost 752162;1405027718;Mats_cd03;http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/fischer20140710a.htm 'things r all good, we got it' 752163;1405027719;assbot;FRB: Speech--Fischer, Financial Sector Reform--July 10, 2014 752164;1405027731;Mats_cd03;lie. 752165;1405027864;Mats_cd03;Regulators almost everywhere need to do more research on the effectiveness of microprudential and other tools that could be used to deal with macroprudential problems.  752166;1405027864;Mats_cd03;It will be important to ensure that coordination among different regulators of the financial system is effective and, in particular, will be effective in the event of a crisis. 752167;1405029018;mod6;%p 752168;1405029020;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 5246.35 GH/s 752169;1405029883;benkay; benkay no, i just had a moment of drool at the thought someone somewhere is making me a dollie :D // good taste is good taste 752170;1405030215;mircea_popescu; Regulators almost everywhere need to do more research on the effectiveness of microprudential and other tools that could be used to deal with macroprudential problems. << the best tool is for them to stfu., 752171;1405030292;benkay; mike_c i think the most peer review that's happened to date was me slapping around benkay's employees. // hey now that's a dangerous word to throw at americans 752172;1405030305;benkay;'contractor', please. for the sake of my taxes. 752173;1405030334;mircea_popescu;s/employees/boyfriends 752174;1405030338;mircea_popescu;for the sake of nohomo. 752175;1405030355;benkay;my eyes 752176;1405030358;benkay;they do roll 752177;1405030895;mircea_popescu;anyone wanna recommend a tumblr equivalent ? 752178;1405030899;mircea_popescu;that site's too retarded 752179;1405030920;asciilifeform;afaik it's the only turd of its kind. 752180;1405030924;asciilifeform;uniquely demented 752181;1405030969;*;asciilifeform shows to pet, who reads it habitually, she nods 752182;1405030985;mircea_popescu;wait tumblr is the pic posting service. 752183;1405030993;asciilifeform;nope 752184;1405031005;asciilifeform;it's an uncommonly broken blogging service 752185;1405031037;asciilifeform;doesn't support comments, in the usual sense. instead, when you 'comment', it... reposts the turd on your own 'tumblr' 752186;1405031200;mircea_popescu;i just mean, one pic at a time picblogging stuff 752187;1405031237;asciilifeform;people actually post text there. 752188;1405031308;*;asciilifeform lends keyboard to pet to explain... 752189;1405031316;asciilifeform;it's a super weird blogging service 752190;1405031336;asciilifeform;i have seen the porn pics, but that's not all or even most of the site 752191;1405031356;mircea_popescu;the way tumblr works is that a post = 1 pic. 752192;1405031360;mircea_popescu;it's what i want. 752193;1405031371;asciilifeform;well okay. but that's not what tumblr is 752194;1405031390;asciilifeform;post = 1 through 10 pics, or a text post, or a video, or several different formats of text 752195;1405031400;asciilifeform;or 'reblogging' any of the above which is actually most common 752196;1405031412;asciilifeform;anyway. *steps away from keyboard now cause this isn't relevant* 752197;1405031426;*;asciilifeform removes pet from console, plants back on throne 752198;1405031446;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know you probably get the girl her own handle. 752199;1405031464;mircea_popescu;what is this medieval patriarchy 752200;1405031474;asciilifeform;pet: 'i dont wanna' 752201;1405031485;mircea_popescu;what is this feminist postmodernism! 752202;1405031500;mircea_popescu;(and i have more words, ftr) 752203;1405031513;HyperChetty; what is this medieval patriarchy// uuh isnt that what you claim it should be?? 752204;1405031521;mircea_popescu;no ? 752205;1405031556;mircea_popescu;incredible how actually useless the 2.0 web is. 752206;1405031984;kakobrekla;working on replacement 752207;1405032020;mircea_popescu;fingertrap them! 752208;1405032733;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> i just mean, one pic at a time picblogging stuff /// instagram is what people use for this 752209;1405032827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 167 @ 0.035 = 5.845 BTC [-] 752210;1405033036;ThickAsThieves;http://www.uif.gov.ar/uif/index.php/en/ 752211;1405033038;assbot;uif.gov.ar - UIF 752212;1405034416;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves aty 752213;1405034549;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves re the uif thing, best part is their raport of activity. it has a 2000-2009 and 2010 - 2014 section, somehow this makes sense. scroll to page 6, admire the fines (multas in original) 752214;1405034564;mircea_popescu;issued / paid : 0 / 0 ; 218 mn / 250k 752215;1405034582;mircea_popescu;250k is about... roughly 30 btc, at today's exchange. covers five years. 752216;1405034623;mircea_popescu;page 8 has other interesting statisticts. 156 cases, 9 convictions 752217;1405037036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.03578245 = 0.8588 BTC [+] {2} 752218;1405037054;TheNewDeal;kakobrekla, you in? 752219;1405037114;kakobrekla;depends! 752220;1405037158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.0144385 = 2.8877 BTC [+] {2} 752221;1405037165;TheNewDeal;just wondering about any resolution plans for http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ , as I'm tired of reading all the derp comments 752222;1405037165;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 minutes ago 752223;1405037271;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741708 752224;1405037272;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 752225;1405037275;kakobrekla;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741715 752226;1405037275;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 752227;1405037280;kakobrekla;do you want me to ask mp? 752228;1405037329;TheNewDeal;sure 752229;1405037342;mike_c;uh, did you read the links he posted? 752230;1405037344;kakobrekla;august the 3rd it is. 752231;1405037351;TheNewDeal;oh wait 752232;1405037354;TheNewDeal;hahaha 752233;1405037370;TheNewDeal;that probably seems legitmate anyways 752234;1405037452;TheNewDeal;I actually didn't until saying sure, but still humorous nonetheless 752235;1405037534;TheNewDeal;should have realized, https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z 752236;1405037535;assbot;Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip 752237;1405037661;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wife-of-wanda-wiamonds/ 752238;1405037707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 44 @ 0.01445 = 0.6358 BTC [+] 752239;1405037768;TheNewDeal;can I get a period please, or a semicolon, or something of the like? 752240;1405037774;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: shannonizer test? 752241;1405037867;TheNewDeal;asciilifeform what is that? 752242;1405037880;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: markov chain text gen 752243;1405037887;TheNewDeal;ahhh 752244;1405037900;asciilifeform;e.g. 'dissociated press.' 752245;1405037940;TheNewDeal;West Niphomanian - that's too good to be an accident 752246;1405038030;TheNewDeal;hipsterset of historpy. oh my, going to have to reuse some of these 752247;1405038183;TheNewDeal;anybody here read HG Wells? 752248;1405038198;asciilifeform;sure 752249;1405038256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 75 @ 0.01516931 = 1.1377 BTC [-] {13} 752250;1405038298;TheNewDeal;have abouts one in particular called The Food of the Gods? 752251;1405038378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.01445142 = 1.0116 BTC [+] {2} 752252;1405039105;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, actually, it's a commentary of "waiting for a midnight kiss" 752253;1405039115;mircea_popescu;which is an atrociously bad movie i had the misfortune to watch earlier. 752254;1405039120;asciilifeform;lol 752255;1405039200;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal everything on the internets is a trap 752256;1405039227;TheNewDeal;its a tarp! 752257;1405039280;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/993/germany-wins-world-cup/ << dude look at that, bitbet actually covered. 752258;1405039280;assbot;BitBet - Germany wins World Cup :: 10.62 B (64%) on Yes, 5.94 B (36%) on No | closing in 2 days 23 hours | weight: 83`530 (100`000 to 10`000) 752259;1405039381;mircea_popescu;im seeing germany at 11/8, !germany at (23/10 + 5/2). this comes to 1.375 for, 2.5 against. 752260;1405039391;mircea_popescu;bitbet is currently doing 1.42 / 2.33 752261;1405039429;mircea_popescu;i have no idea how "draw" odds are supposed to work on all these betting sites tho. this is the wc final, wtf draw ? 752262;1405039450;TheNewDeal;ridiculous 752263;1405039470;mircea_popescu;srsly, 23/10 draw ? how ? 752264;1405039475;mircea_popescu;maybe it means if they end up in penalty. 752265;1405039484;TheNewDeal;it's not betting on a full time win, is it? 752266;1405039497;TheNewDeal;that's what I figured as well 752267;1405039498;mircea_popescu;i really dunno, kinda obscure how this shit works. 752268;1405039629;mircea_popescu;also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_-iZYIofU 752269;1405039630;assbot;High Fidelity - Jack Black - Let's Get It On - YouTube 752270;1405040097;TheNewDeal;Jack Black is pure talent 752271;1405040536;mike_c;this trilema post needs a OTP to decode, yes? 752272;1405040585;mike_c;i tried reading letters down the edges, but nothing. 752273;1405040607;mike_c;i need the paper with holes cut out in the right spots. 752274;1405040615;asciilifeform;mike_c: nope. you just need a squirrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncWyA4s3r7I 752275;1405040615;assbot;Game Gear Squirrel Commercial - YouTube 752276;1405040658;mike_c;omg i remember that commercial 752277;1405040687;cazalla;wow, that dude was that fat that long ago 752278;1405040730;asciilifeform;that was among the first ads i saw when i came to the us 752279;1405040763;asciilifeform;today we have technology, no longer need squirrel to see colour. but still necessary for 3d, etc. 752280;1405040775;asciilifeform;and, perhaps - to decode mircea_popescu's post... 752281;1405040829;mircea_popescu;mike_c lol why so suspicious ? 752282;1405040837;mircea_popescu;can't a simpleminded psychopath just have some fun ? 752283;1405040910;mike_c;i figure that is how simpleminded psychopaths have fun. 752284;1405040944;mircea_popescu;well, this and the surgery. 752285;1405040952;mike_c;asciilifeform: no wai. the facebook oculus rift is 3d! 752286;1405040985;mike_c;only 0.5 BTC for version 2 kit. i am tempted, but know i have no time to play with it. 752287;1405041178;mike_c;random aside: I am now a 0MQ fanboy thanks to kako. fast, versatile, easy to use in any language. solves all your pubsub, message queue, and lonely nights problems. 752288;1405041230;mike_c;might also wash your dishes, not sure. 752289;1405041759;mircea_popescu;kako is a graybeard despite his tender years 752290;1405041813;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/ hmmm.... 752291;1405041813;assbot;BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 6.04 B (44%) on No | closing in 4 months 5 days | weight: 35`178 (100`000 to 1) 752292;1405041820;mike_c;those odds actually seem pretty good 752293;1405041829;mike_c;how the hell am i supposed to make any money. 752294;1405050201;decimation;asciilifeform I tought you could pick up a chicom pick'n place machine for less than $5k 752295;1405050561;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/071014-mining-difficulty-update/ 752296;1405050575;ThickAsThieves;"So that's the whole story. I was tricked into selling Buttcoin.org to BFL and no longer have access to the site so I've set up camp on the subreddit instead so I can shitpost about bitcoins still." 752297;1405050608;ThickAsThieves;"The next day we noticed that our most popular article on the entire site, the "The $22,484.00 Butterfly Labs Mini Rig bitcoin miner is a huge, broken, unstable piece of shit." had been edited and now read The Butterfly Labs Mini Rig is a sexy Bitcoin mining machine." 752298;1405051053;decimation;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/07/09/man-visiting-d-c-says-uber-driver-took-him-on-wild-ride/ 752299;1405051053;assbot;Man visiting D.C. says Uber driver took him on wild ride - The Washington Post 752300;1405051098;decimation;"A side note: Waters said the hack inspector tried to radio for help from other agencies, but his attempt coincided with an outage of the city?s emergency communications system. " 752301;1405051115;decimation;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/wp/2014/07/09/radio-silence-in-d-c/ 752302;1405051116;assbot;Radio silence in D.C. - The Washington Post 752303;1405051170;decimation;"The normal external power feed appeared unreliable Monday, so officials switched to generators until the issue could be addressed. But, 13 hours later, the generators failed, leaving police briefly without radio coverage, 911 callers on hold, and 311 callers totally out of luck for 16 minutes." 752304;1405051230;asciilifeform;decimation: less than $5k << one with no optics, yes 752305;1405051236;decimation;Things are getting better comrades 752306;1405051272;decimation;I don't think you would be placing fine pitch parts without optics 752307;1405051304;asciilifeform;decimation: believe or not, the sub-$10k (new) chinese machines seem to lack optics. 752308;1405051323;asciilifeform;decimation: they're meant to work with hand-holding (if you ask me, that defeats the purpose of a robot) 752309;1405051359;decimation;heh yeah I agree 752310;1405051429;decimation;the uber kidnapper is a layered story 752311;1405051460;decimation;failures in silly-con valley, failures in DC government, failures in DC infrastructure 752312;1405051648;BingoBoingo;%t 752313;1405051649;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 224 Ask: 279 Last Price: 224 24h-Vol: 175k High: 225 Low: 224 VWAP: 224 752314;1405051814;TheNewDeal;decimation "When they left their meeting there, they thought about taking Uber, but the wait was too long, so they took a cab instead." 752315;1405051830;decimation;heh yeah 752316;1405051870;TheNewDeal;on a similar note, I just used Lyft for the first time last week, and it worked out without a kidnapping 752317;1405051939;TheNewDeal;was trying to get a ride home from the airport, brother was asleep, ended up paying $9 after the $25 first time discount 752318;1405051967;decimation;one wonders about the remarkable tolerance supposedly rich people in the US have for such poor public services 752319;1405052041;BingoBoingo;Foghorn Leghorn weeps http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/07/10/impotent_roosters_chicken_prices_are_rising_because_of_genetic_problems.html 752320;1405052041;assbot;Impotent roosters: Chicken prices are rising because of genetic problems. 752321;1405052057;TheNewDeal;which public services are you speaking of decimation? 752322;1405052060;decimation;Isn't Lyft the one that works on "donations" 752323;1405052070;TheNewDeal;yes 752324;1405052076;TheNewDeal;and they refer to all their customers as "friends" 752325;1405052088;decimation;well, the taxi inspector who encouraged a high speed chase to settle some paperwork 752326;1405052100;decimation;then the fact that DC can't keep its radio system running 752327;1405052108;TheNewDeal;ahhh gotcha 752328;1405052116;decimation;and apparently the backup is ... sit in the cop station and eat donuts 752329;1405052141;decimation;england was very well policed before the telegraph 752330;1405052142;BingoBoingo;But how does it taste? Usually it takes some work to make a Capon Aviagen sent a team of scientists to Sanderson last autumn to study the issue and has acknowledged that an undisclosed change it made to the breed's genetics made the birds "very sensitive" to being overfed, he said. "We fed him too much. He got fat. When he got big, he did not breed as much as he was intended to," Cockrell said about the breed of rooster. 752331;1405052968;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves lmao fo real ? 752332;1405052970;mircea_popescu;bfl trols sa lmao. idiots. 752333;1405052973;mircea_popescu;tbh i don't get that bitcoinnews article. wtf is it supposed to be ? 752334;1405053046;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 752335;1405053048;gribble;Current Blocks: 310188 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 275 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17191403242.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.21746 752336;1405053093;TheNewDeal;was hoping for a negative, no clue why 752337;1405053188;BingoBoingo;The thing about betting for a negative is that even if nextchange is estimated negative the first many days of a period, new hash is going to bleed all over your whites the last couple days 752338;1405053245;TheNewDeal;very true 752339;1405053255;TheNewDeal;which is why I have not bet on the negative 752340;1405053275;BingoBoingo;Then again... Maybe August gets really hot? 752341;1405053292;TheNewDeal;hottest on record :P 752342;1405053320;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/10/encouraging-newsing/ 752343;1405053531;BingoBoingo;Right now here it is a nice 18.3333 C Tomorrow it is only supposed to get up to 29 C 752344;1405053543;BingoBoingo;Far from hottest on record 752345;1405053956;decimation;"29. Where persons so keeping watch or ward, shall want assistance therein, any other persons on like duty, having knowledge thereof, by the rattle,signal, outcry, or otherwise, shall repair to, and assist by all means in their power; but no person, during his time of duty, shall absent himself from his particular stand or walk, without consent either of the constable or special constable of the night, unless on the above occasion; 752346;1405053958;decimation;or for suppressing some disorder of which he is eye or ear witness on some adjoining stand, &c. in absence of the persons keeping watch, &c. therein, nor then longer than necessary, s. 19." 752347;1405053959;decimation;http://books.google.com/books?id=9qRFAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1580 752348;1405053960;assbot;A Digest of the Public General Statutes from Magna Charta - Robert P. Tyrwhitt, Thomas William Tyndale - Google Books 752349;1405053969;decimation;radio-free policing 752350;1405054245;mircea_popescu;decimation do you have any idea what size constraints that;'d put on say la ? 752351;1405054246;decimation;http://www.thegreenwichphantom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/police-rattle.jpg << said rattle 752352;1405054246;mircea_popescu;detroit ? 752353;1405054258;mircea_popescu;no fucking parking lots. 15k a month to park your car. 752354;1405054316;decimation;I'm not sure that's such a bad thing 752355;1405054345;decimation;Many us cities would be better off without cars in the urban core 752356;1405054345;mircea_popescu;well, depends what you're optimizing for. 752357;1405054361;mircea_popescu;if you want the babes to be REALLY impressed with your car, then it would be a pretty sweet thing. 752358;1405054375;mircea_popescu;if you want everyone to be able to pretend they're cool, it'd be horrible. 752359;1405054422;decimation;at any rate, I bring it up mainly because I suspect that less than 1% of the democratic police even realize that this is how things were done before the radio told them what to do 752360;1405054451;mircea_popescu;it's not really THAT different anyway is it ? 752361;1405054518;decimation;not in principle, but it would require more humans to be standing around watching for things going on 752362;1405054542;decimation;the world's population has never been larger, yet human attention is precious 752363;1405054708;mircea_popescu;well that's why lol. 752364;1405054730;mircea_popescu;think about it... every new human has the same basic needs, but as you keep adding them to the long end of stupidity they don't actually add a full measure of attention. 752365;1405054739;TheNewDeal;bingoboingo, in Arizona right now and it's been lik 40 C + 752366;1405054754;mircea_popescu;so if population is 5 and per capita avg attention ready to be paid 2.1, then you have 2.1x as much attention as needed. 752367;1405054769;mircea_popescu;once the population is 50 and per capita avg attention available dropped to .95, you're short already 752368;1405054777;mircea_popescu;as you add more people it only gets worse. 752369;1405054795;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Ah, here in the Middle West we've been enjoying one of those Polar Vortex things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnjfYrE7xYQ 752370;1405054795;assbot;Polar Vortex, You Freeze My Cortex - A Complain Song - YouTube 752371;1405054894;decimation;mircea, this explains much of the current state of the world 752372;1405054953;mircea_popescu;people pretend to ignore the fact that human life, like all life, is an exercise in exploring the possibilities. as you increase the population you necessarily lower the averages. 752373;1405054960;TheNewDeal;bingoboingo that video was awesome. Live in the MN, but haven't been back much during the past few weeks 752374;1405054967;mircea_popescu;exactly for the reason and through the mechanisms any good investment is its own limiting factor. 752375;1405054991;TheNewDeal;they 752376;1405054992;TheNewDeal;the 752377;1405055005;TheNewDeal;they're getting flooded I hear. (sorry for hitting enter a few times) 752378;1405055039;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal we'll just think you got the webcam open on the other monitor. 752379;1405055084;TheNewDeal;me and indiancandy getting it on 752380;1405055186;cazalla;her face is all over mfc, nfi what the big deal here was 752381;1405055209;mircea_popescu;cazalla fail school of whoring, "gotta pretend like it's hard" 752382;1405055220;mircea_popescu;it's the 80s all over again. 752383;1405055340;cazalla;XSexyindianx on google images if anyone wants a look 752384;1405055348;BingoBoingo;It's like the tale of two cam girls 752385;1405055568;TheNewDeal;is that a tale of two cities reference? 752386;1405055619;BingoBoingo;Not at all 752387;1405055751;TheNewDeal;i refuse to believe so 752388;1405055761;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=ninjashogun&sign=ANY&type=RECV 752389;1405055761;assbot;Rating Details for User 'ninjashogun' 752390;1405055763;TheNewDeal;:) 752391;1405055773;mircea_popescu;this is a total fucking performance, -35 in two weeks 752392;1405055778;mircea_popescu;not even supa. 752393;1405055864;mircea_popescu;;;later tell rhoruns did you go by that nick in astonia ? 752394;1405055864;gribble;The operation succeeded. 752395;1405056635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 98 @ 0.014495 = 1.4205 BTC [+] {2} 752396;1405058249;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: normal market forces, miners gon' dump etc. 752397;1405058266;BingoBoingo;%d 752398;1405058267;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 533370.09 in 1166 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -32.07 752399;1405058926;BingoBoingo;!up MarcSummers 752400;1405058952;BingoBoingo;1up virtuals 752401;1405059476;nubbins`;!up virtuals 752402;1405059578;BingoBoingo;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/andreas-antonopoulos-leaves-bitcoin-foundation-complete-lack-transparency/2014/07/10 << Andreas finally trying to get out before some thing he endorsed collapses for once? 752403;1405059582;assbot;Andreas Antonopoulos Leaves Bitcoin Foundation Over "Complete Lack of Transparency" 752404;1405059909;MarcSummers;uhoh 752405;1405059922;MarcSummers;you wanna real asset? pee pee coin URO 752406;1405059963;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/34YR3MB.txt ) 752407;1405059963;BingoBoingo;!b 2 752408;1405060741;MarcSummers;start xcp asset xcpeepee 752409;1405060772;fluffypony;lol xcp 752410;1405062735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.19766666 = 1.779 BTC [-] {3} 752411;1405063144;xmj;mike_c: I don't work >for< benkay. I work with him. 752412;1405063165;xmj;the joys of having your own setup. 752413;1405063810;thestringpuller;xmj: 752414;1405063814;thestringpuller;it's late as fuck go to bed 752415;1405064277;FabianB;thestringpuller: not everywhere on the globe 752416;1405064317;xmj;10:30:15 <+thestringpuller> it's late as fuck go to bed 752417;1405064329;xmj;I'm currently staying in Cambridge, UK -- 08:38 AM. 752418;1405064758;thestringpuller;ha 752419;1405064775;thestringpuller;hooray for time zones 752420;1405065027;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 52(Y):48(N) by coin, 51(Y):49(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.23105324 BTC. Current weight: 95,238. 752421;1405065028;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 9B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/980/ Odds: 51(Y):49(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.2048888 BTC. Current weight: 95,010. 752422;1405068267;punkman;http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/how-one-kickstarter-project-squandered-3-5-million/ 752423;1405068268;assbot;Kickstarter project spent $3.5M to finish a working prototypeand ended in disaster | Ars Technica 752424;1405069261;punkman;re: Lyft/Uber http://abovethecrowd.com/2014/07/11/how-to-miss-by-a-mile-an-alternative-look-at-ubers-potential-market-size/ 752425;1405069262;assbot;How to Miss By a Mile: An Alternative Look at Ubers Potential Market Size | Above the Crowd | By Bill Gurley 752426;1405069273;punkman;lol "The Game Changer: Uber as a Car-Ownership Alternative" 752427;1405069376;punkman;you wouldn't believe the amount of spam Uber and Lyft are spreading, trying to recruit new drivers 752428;1405071246;pankkake;http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/10/2225244 spam works! 752429;1405071247;assbot;SoylentNews | Scientists Who Continually Publish Get More Citations 752430;1405072106;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/argentinian-money-regulator-mandates-reporting-bitcoin-activity/ 752431;1405072106;assbot;Argentinian Money Regulator Mandates Reporting on Bitcoin Activity 752432;1405075329;pankkake;davout: http://www.numerama.com/magazine/29982-bitcoins-bercy-veut-limiter-l-anonymat-et-plafonner-les-montants.html 752433;1405075330;assbot;Bitcoins : Bercy veut limiter l'anonymat et plafonner les montants 752434;1405077903;davout;pankkake: long bitcoin, short france 752435;1405078507;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell ericmuyser fix your connection bro 752436;1405078526;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell ericmuyser fix your connection bro 752437;1405078527;gribble;The operation succeeded. 752438;1405078757;danielpbarron;https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/klee-bounty!/ 752439;1405078757;assbot;Klee bounty! 752440;1405078810;danielpbarron;"This is reddit front-page material - I suggest a concerted effort there: With somebody posting, and the community timely upvoting." 752441;1405078887;danielpbarron;"Also, klee has put a bounty out of 500 BTC for anyone who can track down the funds (1170 BTC) and retrieve them." 752442;1405079014;fluffypony;danielpbarron: is this the thing that happened a little while ago where some dude's account got hacked whilst he was on a plane and asked for money to trade? 752443;1405079019;danielpbarron;"Just want everyone to know that I have unlocked kLee's account here again, and I have video-confirmed it was him making the request." << when is gribble going to have the video authentication method? 752444;1405079039;fluffypony;s/the/related to the 752445;1405079045;danielpbarron;fluffypony, idk, I'm still reading 752446;1405079072;fluffypony;ah, no, that was someone else: https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/incredible-opportunity!/ 752447;1405079073;assbot;Incredible opportunity! (scam, account hacked) 752448;1405079086;punkman;https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/general-security-and-klee-theft-situation/ 752449;1405079087;assbot;General security and klee theft situation 752450;1405079196;pankkake;why should we care? 752451;1405079199;fluffypony;"1. passes kept in a plaintext file" 752452;1405079201;fluffypony;ahahahhhaha ha 752453;1405079208;fluffypony;holy fuck this dude is as bad as usagi 752454;1405079229;pankkake;lol 752455;1405079242;pankkake;that guy is a forum retard who invests in every available scam 752456;1405079247;pankkake;what a surprise 752457;1405079519;punkman;seems like he's getting some NXT back from bter 752458;1405079531;punkman;doubt he'll ever see 1000 BTC again 752459;1405079584;pankkake;and he will never pay that bounty either 752460;1405082184;BingoBoingo;%t 752461;1405082185;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 224 Ask: 279 Last Price: 224 24h-Vol: 16k High: 224 Low: 224 VWAP: 223 752462;1405083253;BingoBoingo;!up jdoubleu 752463;1405083284;jdoubleu;yo thx 752464;1405083385;BingoBoingo;jdoubleu: What brings you here today 752465;1405083543;los_pantalones;he's a new camgirl 752466;1405083543;jdoubleu;interested in learning more about bitcoin, invited by los pants. planned to lurk for a bit 752467;1405083567;BingoBoingo;Ah, cool. 752468;1405083752;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 752469;1405083755;gribble;Current Blocks: 310249 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 214 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 6 hours, 45 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17266282104.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.66267 752470;1405083875;BingoBoingo;%d 752471;1405083877;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 538081.55 in 1125 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -31.47 752472;1405084961;HyperChetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsQ_UDwCMAI6IBD.jpg 752473;1405085566;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> tbh i don't get that bitcoinnews article. wtf is it supposed to be ? /// me either, it reads like it was sleepwritten 752474;1405085640;BingoBoingo;Sleepwriting is the best 752475;1405085772;Apocalyptic;pankkake, have you seen http://www.boursorama.com/actualites/bercy-veut-encadrer-l-utilisation-du-bitcoin-9f18f62202aedaaa4261d8badc8eb3b1 ? 752476;1405085772;assbot;Bercy veut encadrer l'utilisation du Bitcoin 752477;1405085784;pankkake;yes, read the logs! 752478;1405085871;Apocalyptic;k, i'm out of the loop 752479;1405086010;assbot;jdoubleu +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 752480;1405086025;FabianB;!up jdoubleu 752481;1405086332;los_pantalones;;;rate jdoubleu 1 your go-to guy for a manhattan, white russian, and trip to dolls 752482;1405086334;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jdoubleu has been recorded. 752483;1405087120;kakobrekla;http://bitcoin-conference.eu/index.php 752484;1405087121;assbot;Bitcoin 752485;1405087242;davout;Apocalyptic: twas in lemonde.fr too 752486;1405087267;Apocalyptic;davout, I bet 752487;1405087287;Apocalyptic;"souhaite rguler l'utilisation des monnaies virtuelles, comme le Bitcoin, en plafonnant notamment les montants qu'elles peuvent servir payer" 752488;1405087290;Apocalyptic;this is kind of lulzy 752489;1405087335;pankkake;"In a future where Bitcoin is popular and pervasive, Bitcoin mining is about much more than mining for profit." 752490;1405087363;davout;Apocalyptic: it's kind of consistent if you compare it to cash thresholds 752491;1405087368;pankkake;I hope the guy gets hecklers 752492;1405087405;kakobrekla;slovenia does bitcoin conferene but no best slovenians on it 752493;1405087413;Apocalyptic;davout, it is, the thing is it's not really enforceable 752494;1405087414;kakobrekla;how strange. 752495;1405087429;davout;Apocalyptic: except with fr payment processors 752496;1405087440;Apocalyptic;of course 752497;1405087455;davout;the pretty cool thing tho are the mentions about vat 752498;1405087465;Apocalyptic;yeah, that is sensible 752499;1405087493;davout;except they kinda say "we'll see later about that" 752500;1405087540;davout;i really have nothing against going the fuck out of france :) 752501;1405087557;Apocalyptic;heh :) 752502;1405087564;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: You should go there and just piss on the podium 752503;1405087625;kakobrekla;or just mix the laxatives in the drink and run. 752504;1405088564;mircea_popescu;!up jdoubleu 752505;1405091120;thestringpuller;bc,stats 752506;1405091127;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 752507;1405091135;gribble;Current Blocks: 310253 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 210 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 8 hours, 6 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17192441000.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.22363 752508;1405092127;mircea_popescu;;;ident jurov 752509;1405092128;gribble;Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified. 752510;1405092183;jurov;;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ed0b84b6934b5585ad167237010b74d30020c9bd984a175b6db6de50 752511;1405092184;gribble;You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 752512;1405092924;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/11/pimpin-preschools-and-pos-software/ 752513;1405093784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.03757167 = 2.0289 BTC [+] {9} 752514;1405093799;fluffypony;holy shit, ericmuyser please fix your fucking connection 752515;1405093834;mircea_popescu;does that mean his connection is slutty, fucking around, and he should fix, ie castrate it ? 752516;1405093887;fluffypony;D) All of the above 752517;1405093911;mircea_popescu;!up alex_c 752518;1405093967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 64 @ 0.01525 = 0.976 BTC [+] 752519;1405094394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.65223501 BTC to 11`051 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 752520;1405094516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 173.75743686 BTC to 82`142 shares, 211533 satoshi per share 752521;1405094699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03665908 = 0.7332 BTC [+] {4} 752522;1405094761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 6.53965170 BTC to 29`438 shares, 22215 satoshi per share 752523;1405095503;BingoBoingo;- ;;ticker 752524;1405095507;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 752525;1405095509;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 628.78, Best ask: 629.52, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 629.52, 24 hour volume: 6210.79826244, 24 hour low: 612.58, 24 hour high: 630.0, 24 hour vwap: 0 752526;1405096401;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2adssm/buttcoin_foundation_rocked_as_founder_exposed_to/ 752527;1405096401;assbot;Buttcoin Foundation ROCKED as founder exposed to be PAID SHILL for Butterfly Labs : Buttcoin 752528;1405096668;mod6;%d 752529;1405096669;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 539534.36 in 1105 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -31.28 752530;1405096673;mod6;%p 752531;1405096674;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 4754.24 GH/s 752532;1405097915;BingoBoingo;So Lebron signed with Cincinnati, or Cleveland. Which ever C town in hell has a basketball team 752533;1405098111;BingoBoingo;Speaking of Ohio... how is rentalstarter doing? 752534;1405098149;benkay;!t h rent 752535;1405098149;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00405000 / 0.00438703 / 0.00467000 (348 shares, 1.52668600 BTC), 7D: 0.00400001 / 0.00422048 / 0.00467000 (1587 shares, 6.69790702 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00382689 / 0.00467000 (6591 shares, 25.22302928 BTC) 752536;1405098544;mircea_popescu;;;seen hm. 752537;1405098544;gribble;I have not seen hm.. 752538;1405098548;mircea_popescu;what was the guy's name ? 752539;1405098580;mircea_popescu;;;seen the20year 752540;1405098581;gribble;the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 39 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: Corn oil sells locally for $3.25/gal 752541;1405098725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 153 @ 0.0368 = 5.6304 BTC [+] 752542;1405098777;BingoBoingo;!t h RENT 752543;1405098778;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00405000 / 0.00438703 / 0.00467000 (348 shares, 1.52668600 BTC), 7D: 0.00400001 / 0.00422048 / 0.00467000 (1587 shares, 6.69790702 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00382689 / 0.00467000 (6591 shares, 25.22302928 BTC) 752544;1405098820;BingoBoingo;So not the lowest they've been this months, but still well any of their OMGWTFIPOs 752545;1405098908;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03662941 = 0.6227 BTC [-] {3} 752546;1405099718;mike_c;it has held up because the exchange rate has been so stable. the guy doesn't seem like a scammer, or even incompetent. it would be a good investment if bitcoin didn't exist. 752547;1405099847;mike_c;i wonder what would have happenned if this was advertised on espn.com http://bitbet.us/bet/960/lebron-james-to-take-his-talents-elsewhere/ 752548;1405099847;assbot;BitBet - LeBron James to take his talents elsewhere :: 0.21 B (42%) on Yes, 0.29 B (58%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 84`213 (100`000 to 1) 752549;1405099925;mike_c;it was 2.9 : 1 before that last scammer bet. the underdog won again 752550;1405099945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.037368 = 0.6353 BTC [-] 752551;1405100006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03582069 = 0.8955 BTC [-] {5} 752552;1405100425;mircea_popescu;mike_c why scammer bet ? 752553;1405100651;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lL5_3Pf---/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/z9z6weno6y6yyho61uvs.png 752554;1405100776;mike_c;the bet is logged at 16:26 today, i assume that is GMT? Lebron tweeted a link to the sports illustrated article at 16:31, I assume it had been published more than 5 minutes earlier. 752555;1405100842;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: lol! 752556;1405100921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 38 @ 0.015399 = 0.5852 BTC [+] 752557;1405101044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03679 = 0.5519 BTC [+] 752558;1405101238;mike_c;yeah, here it is at 13:30 gmt: https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/487634726736646144 752559;1405101256;mike_c;scammers be scammin' 752560;1405101287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.03808767 = 15.2351 BTC [+] {8} 752561;1405101348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.049 = 0.539 BTC [-] {2} 752562;1405101421;mike_c;BingoBoingo: lol. people like spielberg are the reason dinosaurs are EXTINCT now. 752563;1405102057;jurov;maybe i'll place sponsored link on reddit "Short All The Bitcoin Scams" 752564;1405102071;jurov;with info how to use coinbr to trade DERPs 752565;1405102082;jurov;might be fun 752566;1405102690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03815 = 0.763 BTC [-] 752567;1405104337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0381799 = 1.1454 BTC [+] {3} 752568;1405104886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.03810854 = 0.5335 BTC [-] {4} 752569;1405104983;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/11/a-friendly-reminder-on-shorting/ 752570;1405106021;jurov;lol everyone's thinking about it 752571;1405106040;jurov;maybe it can be done even more diabolically 752572;1405106059;BingoBoingo;Evil finds a way 752573;1405106065;jurov;have anothe sponsored link "Buy Shares of All the BTC companies you love" 752574;1405106084;jurov;and link it to info about how to go long on coinbr 752575;1405106101;jurov;(different from above one) 752576;1405106188;fluffypony;[21:16:02] sud0sandwich: BREAKING NEWS: Facebook has acquired potato salad for $2 billion. 752577;1405106190;fluffypony;lol 752578;1405106389;bitcoinpete;howdy 752579;1405106419;jurov;hi pete 752580;1405106457;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 752581;1405106459;gribble;Current Blocks: 310280 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 183 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 5 hours, 5 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17170379755.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.09245 752582;1405106461;bitcoinpete;heya jurov, how goes coinbr? 752583;1405106496;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: today we have technology, no longer need squirrel to see colour. but still necessary for 3d, etc. << skvirrel! and moose! 752584;1405106504;*;jurov thinks of something funny 752585;1405106546;jurov;you can rest assured your coinbr assets are completely safe 752586;1405106549;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: kako is a graybeard despite his tender years << nao i want to dox the guy, find out how tender... 752587;1405106550;jurov;at least till monday 752588;1405106586;bitcoinpete;jurov: can i get fiat-denominated insurance on that promise? 752589;1405106605;jurov;yes 752590;1405106620;bitcoinpete;i like 752591;1405106650;jurov;but how? you pay me 10 euro, i pay you 1000 if your mpex assets vanish before monday? 752592;1405106651;bitcoinpete;decimation: failures in silly-con valley, failures in DC government, failures in DC infrastructure << failureville, usa. it's like the new springfield 752593;1405106689;bitcoinpete;jurov: lol i was more poking fun at circle, pierce, etc 752594;1405106699;benkay;armory is a gui-only thing, right? 752595;1405106708;bitcoinpete;benkay: pretty sure ya 752596;1405106714;jurov;lolk 752597;1405106731;benkay;htm 752598;1405106733;benkay;hrm* 752599;1405106739;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: on a similar note, I just used Lyft for the first time last week, and it worked out without a kidnapping << that's what they want you to think 752600;1405106766;mike_c;benkay: you can acces everything through python 752601;1405106799;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: if you want the babes to be REALLY impressed with your car, then it would be a pretty sweet thing. << like london. can't park your zonda anywhere 752602;1405106853;mike_c;https://bitcoinarmory.com/developers/python-scripting/ 752603;1405106854;assbot;Python Scripting | Bitcoin Armory 752604;1405106882;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: exactly for the reason and through the mechanisms any good investment is its own limiting factor. << this is a thought 752605;1405106908;benkay;awesome mike_c you're a scholar 752606;1405106916;mike_c;and a gentleman 752607;1405106941;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: "1. passes kept in a plaintext file" << those kids 752608;1405106984;BingoBoingo;benkay: Armoryd is a thing 752609;1405106996;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 752610;1405107022;bitcoinpete;well there ya go, i should know better than to chime in on armoury's guiness 752611;1405107063;bitcoinpete;http://link.reuters.com/fax39t 752612;1405107064;assbot;Canada jobs, unemployment 752613;1405107074;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: If you thing bitcoind takes up a lot of hard drive space though... 752614;1405107089;mircea_popescu;bb has a point, http://bitbet.us/bet/854/brock-pierce-to-resign-at-btc-foundation/ is maybe a little lopsided 752615;1405107089;assbot;BitBet - Brock Pierce to resign at BTC Foundation :: 0.3 B (3%) on Yes, 10.08 B (97%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 45`677 (100`000 to 1) 752616;1405107102;bitcoinpete;canadian unemployment 7.1%, usa at 6.1% 752617;1405107109;bitcoinpete;totally made up stats but y'know 752618;1405107124;benkay;our fictions are less than yours 752619;1405107153;bitcoinpete;or yours are greater 752620;1405107158;bitcoinpete;and ours more accurate 752621;1405107160;indiancandy1;hi amigos 752622;1405107161;bitcoinpete;no way to know! 752623;1405107195;fluffypony;wtf is this, I don't understand: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686482.0 752624;1405107195;assbot;Giveaways from Mr Ricardo investor and diplomat 752625;1405107203;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: if derpopolous, matonis, etc can jump ship, why not pierce 752626;1405107218;mircea_popescu;everyone jumps shit eventualy. 752627;1405107228;benkay;hop a poop 752628;1405107232;mircea_popescu;fluffypony is that you ? 752629;1405107236;fluffypony;no 752630;1405107258;mircea_popescu;"I am Mr Ricardo, one of the first bitcoin miners early in 2009, prosperous engineer, social policymaker and developer of different marketplaces everywhere in the network." 752631;1405107260;fluffypony;I'm Riccardo with two c's (Italian) - Ricardo with one c is Spanish / Portuguese 752632;1405107265;mircea_popescu;basically, rpietilla v2.0 752633;1405107270;mircea_popescu;who in turn was goat 2.0 752634;1405107273;*;asciilifeform misread as 'prosperous social engineer' 752635;1405107290;mircea_popescu;it won't soon end. next move is rap derps going on about their bitcoin creed 752636;1405107297;fluffypony;"broadcasting transfers rebuilding musing searching resources spreading means handling experience" 752637;1405107304;mircea_popescu;the consumer end is cursed to be forever consumer facing. 752638;1405107315;fluffypony;that sounds like "I shat a bunch of words out because I'm high" 752639;1405107332;mircea_popescu;well... the demo is high. 752640;1405107342;fluffypony;lol! https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10447408_891063467576825_1721796086288559289_n.jpg 752641;1405107351;mircea_popescu;"My contribution in the innovative structures last years filled out 88% of my time." 752642;1405107437;indiancandy1;how is evryone today 752643;1405107456;mircea_popescu;pretty amused. 752644;1405107470;benkay;thanks BingoBoingo 752645;1405107493;fluffypony;that is great 752646;1405107501;mircea_popescu;"Huge investors are consolidating here, that's good sign. You found this topic very fast. Excellent. Big things in work." 752647;1405107501;benkay;;;rate mike_c 2 752648;1405107502;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 752649;1405107534;mircea_popescu;buncha squatters 752650;1405107546;benkay;;;eauth benkay 752651;1405107546;gribble;Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA 752652;1405107558;benkay;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5ddaa809667d6a93d9b743d548729a1881869d70787a583a497c4277 752653;1405107559;gribble;You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA 752654;1405107563;benkay;;;rate mike_c 2 752655;1405107565;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mike_c has been recorded. 752656;1405107652;mircea_popescu;"I will rape you fucking partridge. I am more legit then you. I am sure that your account is hacked and you are not the one you are trying to show. Shut up there or i will fuck you in hole" 752657;1405107661;mircea_popescu;is this a re-do of the s.limbs ? 752658;1405107693;fluffypony;classic 752659;1405107728;fluffypony;"Shut up there or i will fuck you in hole between buttocks." 752660;1405107732;fluffypony;let's use the whole phrase 752661;1405107736;fluffypony;because it's awesome 752662;1405107784;mircea_popescu;kinda long tho 752663;1405107811;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2BW5YVK.txt ) 752664;1405107811;benkay;!b 4 752665;1405107942;mircea_popescu;assbot: Kickstarter project spent $3.5M to finish a working prototypeand ended in disaster | Ars Technica << punkman to be fair, that's not really either important or making a lot of sense. sometimes prototypes fail, which is why they're called prototypes. i don't think you can find any item which didn't have millions "wasted" in prototyping 752666;1405107963;mircea_popescu;the problem with kickstarter and the shit trying to copy it isn't that it wastes a lot of money, but that it wastes it pointlessly. 752667;1405107969;asciilifeform;sane people don't sell prototype as product. 752668;1405107999;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sane people also aren't on kickstarter, nor do they think everyone's their peer, nor do they think they have something to "contribute" in random fields that never heard of them. 752669;1405108010;mircea_popescu;we're in postmodernism here, and so therefore postsanity. 752670;1405108016;asciilifeform;lol 752671;1405108061;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2JTY2RT.txt ) 752672;1405108061;bitcoinpete;!b 3 752673;1405108064;mircea_popescu;of course, actually wasting money is a net positive for the us system. 752674;1405108068;mircea_popescu;in that it deflates the bubbles. 752675;1405108095;mircea_popescu;the most important economic activity in a runaway inflation macroeconomy is the writing off of bad debts. 752676;1405108130;asciilifeform;it isn't wasted 'correctly' though. it ends up feeding folks who ought to have gone hungry 752677;1405108136;mircea_popescu;which is kinda why the headlines read like they did, a few years ago. "x bank writes off y bilions" 752678;1405108159;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's the minor part of the binomial. the major part is that it is removed from folks who shouldn't have had it. 752679;1405108178;asciilifeform;the people who did that kickstart, for instance, are separated from their true motherland - the uranium mines - for so long as the money lasts them. 752680;1405108182;mircea_popescu;as long as the scammers actualy waste it, rather than keep it, this is financial sterilisation. 752681;1405108193;mircea_popescu;you're looking at it up the river. 752682;1405108210;mircea_popescu;entropy actually flows the other direction 752683;1405108217;asciilifeform;who will replace the uranium that wasn't mined? 752684;1405108241;mircea_popescu;but the reason these derps are on kickstarter and bitcointalk instead of whatever mine isn't that they had enough money and bought their way out. 752685;1405108294;benkay; it isn't wasted 'correctly' though. it ends up feeding folks who ought to have gone hungry // asciilifeform that's the minor part of the binomial. the major part is that it is removed from folks who shouldn't have had it. // wait how is taking the money from people who shouldn't have it and giving it to others who shouldn't have had it either not subtracting a from x and then adding a back to x? 752686;1405108306;asciilifeform;from a different angle: why no cheap factorygurlz in usa? because the 'candidates' are instead paid to sit and wank 752687;1405108316;mircea_popescu;benkay because group 1 was "investing it" therefore wrecking capital allocation 752688;1405108318;benkay;i'm living through a fog of back pain today so forgive the retardation 752689;1405108326;mircea_popescu;whereas group 2 just spends it, therefore merely wasting resources. 752690;1405108352;mircea_popescu;consider group 1 of 50 idiots who "invested" with pirate, thus creating for me the problem of there existing a pirate, something im still dealing with. 752691;1405108362;mircea_popescu;vs the 50 idiots who bought pizzas and lost wallets and whatnot. 752692;1405108367;mircea_popescu;which is the more pernicious iyo ? 752693;1405108411;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: aha i recall, you described this lemma in the 'tin woman' essay 752694;1405108421;mircea_popescu;if there were no pirate and no silkroad whatshisname, the usg wouldn't be tempted today by the very dangerous heresy that "maybe it can make it on its own" 752695;1405108433;mircea_popescu;generally, the sooner agents are brought to their knees the less blood gets spilled. 752696;1405108547;mircea_popescu; from a different angle: why no cheap factorygurlz in usa? because the 'candidates' are instead paid to sit and wank << false. the cheap factorygirlz in china come from families which have cared enough about them to invested beatings and other very valuable time. 752697;1405108548;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: other than just having a mountain of coins and the ability to dispense of them erratically, how does pirate impact you? 752698;1405108555;mircea_popescu;no such thing in the us. that's why. 752699;1405108564;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete that's exactly it. 752700;1405108583;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: very pessimistic, but probably true. the inevitable conclusion is 'biodiesel.' 752701;1405108586;bitcoinpete;a ok 752702;1405108596;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete consider the case of a street where some idiot builds an unstable skyscraper. 752703;1405108602;mircea_popescu;the cost of the thing falling may be 10k 752704;1405108602;benkay;Mats_cd03: how much time would making rest-y interface to bitc take? 752705;1405108619;mircea_popescu;but the cost of everyone on the street insuring against being fallen on ? 1mn over 10 years. 752706;1405108662;asciilifeform;if i recall, this used to be called 'externality' 752707;1405108667;mircea_popescu;exactly 752708;1405108669;bitcoinpete;right. so the energy expending in making the infrastructure robust enough to deal with pirate's hits are severely costly 752709;1405108685;mircea_popescu;that's why you don't let derps build unstable skyscrapers. not because the thing WILL fall, but because the thing MIGHT fall 752710;1405108693;mircea_popescu;which is more expensive than it simply falling. 752711;1405108713;asciilifeform;or, one could say, the cost of a maniac spinning round and round with machine gun is not merely the wasted lead. 752712;1405108742;mircea_popescu;something like that. 752713;1405108773;mircea_popescu;and now y'all are better qualified risk managers and generally speaking financiers than pretty much everyone under 30 on ws. 752714;1405108779;bitcoinpete;this appears to be one of those cases where the cost of uncertainty greatly exceeds the potential benefits of the construction 752715;1405108786;mircea_popescu;and an appalling fraction of the over 30 crowd to boot 752716;1405108806;bitcoinpete;sort of like playground equipment with built-in buzzsaws 752717;1405108839;bitcoinpete;or the opposite of most of the de-riskified markets (and playgrounds) 752718;1405108873;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete problem is there's two kinds of risk. 752719;1405108890;mircea_popescu;the risk that your prototype may not work, for whatever real reason, is one type, and eminently insurable. 752720;1405108906;bitcoinpete;sure, have lots of prototypes.. 752721;1405108907;mircea_popescu;the risk that your boss may not let you make the prototype however, for whatever ideological reason, is the other type. 752722;1405108923;bitcoinpete;ya, can't have lots of bosses 752723;1405108924;mircea_popescu;eminently uninsurable, and the confusion between the two things pretty much the #1 killed of insurance businesses. 752724;1405108993;bitcoinpete;interesting. 752725;1405109021;bitcoinpete;so with pirate, we can't make prototypes because we don't know if he'll say yes? 752726;1405109029;mircea_popescu;uh 752727;1405109052;bitcoinpete;in that we can try to make something and he could arbitrarily crush it 752728;1405109069;bitcoinpete;or not arbitrarily 752729;1405109082;mircea_popescu;no, more like we tell that Columbia girl that the best future for her is on her two knees and with a welted butt in our household 752730;1405109094;mircea_popescu;but this idiot with a flashy car tells her how he's gonna make her a singer-actresss 752731;1405109099;mircea_popescu;and stupid as she is, she goes for it. 752732;1405109119;mircea_popescu;two years later, she's working that mfc and wondering "why it all went wrong" 752733;1405109167;bitcoinpete;so another 5 years pass and she humbly comes to her senses, following the girls who make the right decision 7 years priot 752734;1405109171;bitcoinpete;prior* 752735;1405109183;mircea_popescu;there's no coming back. 752736;1405109195;mircea_popescu;this is a didactic illusion, people do it in school. 752737;1405109211;bitcoinpete;hm ya, "upgrading" 752738;1405109262;bitcoinpete;so a lot of people who got into bitcoin in 2011 and got raped by pirate are gone forever 752739;1405109275;bitcoinpete;and probably worse off than people who got in in 2013 752740;1405109293;mircea_popescu;well no. most of them went on to "invest" in glbse, be "offended" by mpoe-pr, then "invest" in whatever, 752741;1405109303;mircea_popescu;they're still around, mostly, still derping, mostly 752742;1405109315;mircea_popescu;by the time you're that defeated you really have no incentive left to admit you're stupid. 752743;1405109392;bitcoinpete;so they suck versus more humble, even later, entrants 752744;1405109442;mircea_popescu;"people", ie, nobodies who got in in 2013 got in at a time their meagre disposable income already made it impossible for them to matter. 752745;1405109466;mircea_popescu;so a lot of the heartache of discovering one is poor because one is stupid, not because one never "had a chance" is spared them. 752746;1405109492;benkay;http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/11/0953240&from=rss 752747;1405109493;assbot;SoylentNews | Police Request Permission to take Nude Photo of Minor Sexting Suspect 752748;1405109515;mircea_popescu;benkay iitl! 752749;1405109563;asciilifeform;nobodies who got in in 2013... meagre disposable income already made it impossible for them to matter << not so simple. chumpatronic engineers, malware artists, etc. who got in 2013 (or even today) can still accumulate enough to build plenty of falling skyscrapers 752750;1405109585;mircea_popescu;"Young math students are warned about the critical difference between precision and accuracy. Financial models, especially valuation models, are interesting in that they can be particularly precise. A discounted cash flow model can lead to a result with two numbers right of the decimal for price-per-share. But what is the true accuracy of most of these financial models?" 752751;1405109591;mircea_popescu;bill gurley is fucking retarded. 752752;1405109596;asciilifeform;or is there reason to think that we've reached a 'ground state' where all of the money has left the 'fool pockets' 752753;1405109621;mircea_popescu;why put a pike on display just to stab yourself on the eye with ? just don't mention statistics at all, and merely go on derping nudely, "i want uber to be worth moar" 752754;1405109652;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the problem was 1mn btc sloshing together at a time the total circulating btc was like 5mn 752755;1405109672;mircea_popescu;nobody getting in today gets even 100k together, let alone 3mn, to keep proportions. 752756;1405109697;mircea_popescu;most "vc"s are exposed to less btc than usagi was three years ago, for crying out loud. 752757;1405109752;bitcoinpete;at least vc's use back-ups 752758;1405109766;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.039863 = 0.877 BTC [+] {2} 752759;1405109772;asciilifeform;wouldn't the increased fiat pull of btc today compensate? e.g. for 30k btc one can build an actual skyscraper - which proceeds to fall... 752760;1405109785;mircea_popescu;i do not care what happens in the fiat world. 752761;1405109790;mircea_popescu;not anymore. 752762;1405109816;mircea_popescu;let obama fix that. 752763;1405109862;mircea_popescu;"So here is the objective of this post. It is not my aim to specifically convince anyone that Uber is worth any specific valuation. What Professor Damodaran thinks, or what anyone who is not a buyer or seller of stocks thinks, is fairly immaterial." 752764;1405109877;mircea_popescu;if there ever was a good signal to gtfo out of us stocks... i dunno what else it could be,. 752765;1405109924;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: so what do some of the scenarios of pirate shenanigans look like? 752766;1405109948;dub;tl;dr on mpex? 752767;1405109958;mircea_popescu;"being arrested and dropping ten btc to the usg" 752768;1405109966;mircea_popescu;dub http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/ 752769;1405109968;assbot;MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 752770;1405110015;mircea_popescu;" For most of America, prior to Uber it was impossible to predict how long it would take for a taxi to show up." 752771;1405110017;dub;ty 752772;1405110020;mircea_popescu;dude srsly... how is this a country ? 752773;1405110053;bitcoinpete;http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/10/senate-judiciary-committee-backs-constit << on the us as "a country" 752774;1405110054;assbot;Senate Judiciary Committee Backs Constitutional Amendment to Restrict Free Speech - Hit & Run : Reason.com 752775;1405110062;midnightmagic;Nobody cares about taxis or buses or rail. Everyone just has a car. 752776;1405110105;mircea_popescu;i can tell you that uber has 0 chances in romania, because i've never had a taxi be over 5 minutes, nor did i ever have a problem getting lost items back 752777;1405110110;mircea_popescu;generally, the driver just brings it back. 752778;1405110116;mircea_popescu;argentina is no different 752779;1405110123;mircea_popescu;the idea that there's a "global market" is beyond shoddy. 752780;1405110160;mircea_popescu;actualy, to put it in perspective, i've lived here for over a month, took > 100 rides, NEVER HAD TO CALL ONE. 752781;1405110170;mircea_popescu;never waited more than a minute. walk up to street, lift hand. taxi is tere. 752782;1405110189;jborkl;If you were so inclined, to further drive mirceas point. It was very easy to raise 50K bitcoins two years ago 752783;1405110231;asciilifeform;incidentally, i recently read a hilarious book by a russian who drove a taxi in new york in the '70-'80s. 'желтые короли' ('yellow kings.' in english translation - which apparently exists - 'taxi from hell') 752784;1405110232;bitcoinpete;jborkl: was like $1mn then 752785;1405110297;dub;i'd use uber 752786;1405110303;jborkl;well let me give you this example - Bakewell raised funds through a IPO with a shoe on his head picture to build 2 GPU minners 752787;1405110304;bitcoinpete;bbiab 752788;1405110321;dub;taxi's are safer called, mopst of the flaggable ones are driven by rapists 752789;1405110340;mircea_popescu;dub now how did you form that idea ? 752790;1405110344;asciilifeform;'uber' is just another in a long line of chumpatrons which work by persuading some chumps to make idiotic business decision, and packaging/selling the result to other chumps 752791;1405110350;asciilifeform;see, e.g., 'etsy' 752792;1405110357;jborkl;people fell all over themselves to "invest" in this 752793;1405110368;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform etsy is a great place to meet famished young things. some pretty. some educable. 752794;1405110374;dub;I liked that park auctioning app from the valley 752795;1405110375;asciilifeform;lol 752796;1405110411;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu can apparently reprocess anything into a useful feedstock. like the chicago stockyards famously used 'even the squeal of the pig.' 752797;1405110419;mircea_popescu;it's a talent. 752798;1405110439;dub;http://boingboing.net/2014/05/06/app-lets-you-auction-your-san.html 752799;1405110440;assbot;App lets you auction your San Francisco parking spot - Boing Boing 752800;1405110463;fluffypony;http://imgur.com/a/lphHd 752801;1405110463;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 752802;1405110465;fluffypony;that is awesome 752803;1405110479;mircea_popescu;lol so the frenchies want to a) make bitcoin tx illegal among anon parties and b) make max tx 3k euro. 752804;1405110526;mircea_popescu;i wonder what's next, we decide to confiscate all bitcoin owned by anyone involved with the french government ? 752805;1405110534;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: next, they order the blockchain whipped. and branded. 752806;1405110566;davout;mircea_popescu: don't even get me started 752807;1405110579;mircea_popescu;davout why do you live in Dumblandia ? 752808;1405110599;davout;no, because i read between the lines of that thing 752809;1405110612;mircea_popescu;fluffypony ahaha appreciated. 752810;1405110624;davout;i think they are fucking terrified 752811;1405110626;jborkl;so how exactly do they propose to enforce this? 752812;1405110658;jborkl;oh wait they cant 752813;1405110677;davout;jborkl: they just "said" nobody expects them to "do" 752814;1405110681;mircea_popescu;https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/klee-bounty!/ << someone explain wtf this retardation is ? 752815;1405110682;assbot;Klee bounty! 752816;1405110689;mircea_popescu;in terms easily digestible for you know, sane people. 752817;1405110700;jborkl;he got 1200 btc stolen 752818;1405110706;mircea_popescu;how ? 752819;1405110710;jborkl;and is paying 500 to get it back 752820;1405110719;jborkl;some alt coin 752821;1405110742;jborkl;neex coin? 752822;1405110794;jborkl;cleartext dropbox 752823;1405110801;jborkl;.dat 752824;1405110808;mircea_popescu;so is it that some derp holding a worthless scamcoin he arbitrarily values at 1k btc got his worthless scamcoin "stolen" 752825;1405110827;mircea_popescu;through such eminent strategies as giving away whatever passes for a password in that particular altscam world ? 752826;1405110843;mircea_popescu;and in fact what was stolen is a broken spoon nobdy cares about except for some down syndrome patients ? 752827;1405110862;mircea_popescu;cause that's what i got on the first pass. 752828;1405110918;jborkl;well, you know a broken spoon is worth a bunch to the creator or the mentally ill 752829;1405110926;jborkl;so yes 752830;1405110977;mircea_popescu;great. punkman is like the resident social caseworker. 752831;1405110983;jborkl;oh wait - no he really has 1170 btc, in btc 752832;1405110993;jborkl;had 752833;1405111006;jborkl;https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1GwNLwoCQiobJzmURSAq54vH4BYjFkwaxr 752834;1405111006;assbot;Bitcoin Adres 1GwNLwoCQiobJzmURSAq54vH4BYjFkwaxr 752835;1405111029;mircea_popescu;that was a short trip 752836;1405111135;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: or just mix the laxatives in the drink and run. << why run ? 752837;1405111139;mircea_popescu;let their gut run and watch. 752838;1405111199;kakobrekla;dun wanna be covered in shit. 752839;1405111216;mircea_popescu;aren';t you slovenian already ? 752840;1405111239;kakobrekla;ill subscribe for french passport at this rate. 752841;1405111258;davout;you are mistaken 752842;1405111271;davout;the reason we don't shower is that we naturally smell awesome 752843;1405111273;mircea_popescu;you know they'll make you dine as a citizenship test ? 752844;1405111282;mircea_popescu;;;google faire dinette 752845;1405111283;gribble;DINETTE AU CROCHET MARCHANDE PLAY FOOD on Pinterest: ; dinette on Pinterest: ; Dodo dinette - French Children's Songs - France - Mama Lisa's ...: 752846;1405111289;kakobrekla;do they have spoons? 752847;1405111293;davout;mircea_popescu: lol didn't i show you this one ? 752848;1405111305;davout;;;google faire dinette wikipedia 752849;1405111306;gribble;Dînette — Wikipédia: ; France - Zappa Wiki Jawaka: ; dinette — Wiktionnaire: 752850;1405111306;mircea_popescu;davout indeed. i learn fast and permanently. 752851;1405111332;davout;;;google wikipedia soupeur 752852;1405111333;gribble;soupeur - Wiktionary: ; Lojeanz didier - YouTube: ; Monosodium glutamate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 752853;1405111371;davout;hehe this page is only in french 752854;1405111371;mircea_popescu;http://www.pinterest.com/playwithkids/dinette-au-crochet-marchande-play-food/ << this is pretty good lmao 752855;1405111373;assbot;DINETTE AU CROCHET MARCHANDE PLAY FOOD on Pinterest 752856;1405111398;davout;I'D PLAY WITH THAT 752857;1405112206;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: http://imgur.com/a/lphHd << lmao. thx for this. hardest i've laughed in a while! 752858;1405112207;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 752859;1405112840;mircea_popescu;http://imgur.com/gallery/uf3YE << i join in the "wtf, canada!" 752860;1405112840;assbot;WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, CANADA? - Imgur 752861;1405112923;bitcoinpete;we love animals 752862;1405112928;bitcoinpete;they're all over our fiat 752863;1405113039;HyperChetty;bear balls? 752864;1405113346;bitcoinpete;http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/?src=http://www.canoe.ca/Canoe/Money/News/2014/02/19/toonie_650.jpg&size=650x366&quality=85 752865;1405113360;bitcoinpete;^two dollar coin aka "toonie" 752866;1405113400;mircea_popescu;wtf url and wtf braindamaged scheme is that! 752867;1405113420;mircea_popescu;http://www.canoe.ca/Canoe/Money/News/2014/02/19/toonie_650.jpg will do 752868;1405113547;bitcoinpete;lol 752869;1405113588;bitcoinpete;http://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/auctions/great-proletarian-pullman-bonhams-auction-mao-ministers-mercedes << so who wants to play dictator? 752870;1405113588;assbot;The great proletarian Pullman - Bonhams to auction Mao minister's Mercedes | Classic Driver Magazine 752871;1405113604;bitcoinpete;pretty sure idi amin had one of these too 752872;1405113714;bitcoinpete;http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/all-lots.cfm?SaleCode=LC14 << you can also play dictator with a couple tanks if merc sedans aren't your thing 752873;1405113716;assbot;Auctions America - The Littlefield Collection 752874;1405113795;bitcoinpete;Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. H (Sd.Kfz. 161/2) is ~$2.5mn 752875;1405114559;mircea_popescu;btw, if anyone's got 12 yos, get them "i sell the dead" 752876;1405114582;mircea_popescu;i have no idea why that thing's not more famous, it has just the right combo of freaky, cultured and humour to be another barbarella. 752877;1405114617;mircea_popescu;well maybe that's overstating a point. but anyway. 752878;1405114646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 76 @ 0.03992963 = 3.0347 BTC [+] {2} 752879;1405115193;HyperChetty;http://time.com/2974185/millennials-poll-politics/ 752880;1405115194;assbot;Millennials’ Political Views Baffle Baby Boomers - TIME 752881;1405115463;mircea_popescu;what happened to those old days when in order to have a view one first had to persuade ? 752882;1405115471;mircea_popescu;millenials have no views. 752883;1405115500;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: those old days when in order to have a view one first had to persuade >> http://jjlindal.net/jafl/nn_koan.php << obligatory 752884;1405115501;assbot;A Neural Network Koan 752885;1405115536;mircea_popescu;myeah. 752886;1405115542;asciilifeform;bricks have views. we just don't know how to ask them what they are. 752887;1405115552;mircea_popescu;a brick has no view. 752888;1405115584;asciilifeform;one would suppose. but the author of the linked article might disagree 752889;1405115594;mircea_popescu;to have a view eyes are not enough to see, nor mouth enough to speak, nor even some ganglion to somehow connect these two. in order to have a view one must have the ability to evoke that view in another, preferably another who does not care. 752890;1405115599;mircea_popescu;absent that, there's no view. 752891;1405115622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03842703 = 0.6917 BTC [-] {6} 752892;1405115965;bitcoinpete;http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/the-20-most-sizzling-rich-white-guy-fashion-moments-from-sun << doze sv boyz 752893;1405115965;assbot;The 20 Most Sizzling Rich White Guy Fashion Moments From Sun Valley 752894;1405116096;mircea_popescu;"a sophisticated yet fun and funky tee." ?! 752895;1405116132;mircea_popescu;jesus who put stale pasta in Jessica Misener's cerebral cavity and why am i reading this sht. 752896;1405116168;bitcoinpete;it's like a relaxed yet cutting edge toothpaste 752897;1405116208;bitcoinpete;shoulda had a disclaimer on that link 752898;1405116396;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/sprouteeweb/status/487694914474749952 << lel 752899;1405116416;bitcoinpete;"Humbling to see women in #fintech like @37coins & @BitPesa delivering on the promise of #bitcoin to empower the unbanked. #CoinSummit" 752900;1405116855;mircea_popescu;lol waitwut ? 752901;1405116859;mircea_popescu;what'd the chicks deliver ? 752902;1405117073;mircea_popescu;"For most older Americans, calling yourself a liberal means you want to increase the size, scope, and spending of the government" 752903;1405117087;mircea_popescu;ahahha that article's so lulzy, because this retarded shit is true. 752904;1405117159;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: 37coins does bitcoin over sms, bitpesa does bitcoin remittance to kenya 752905;1405117169;mircea_popescu;ok but as to delivery. 752906;1405117192;bitcoinpete;probably along the lines of "dozens served" 752907;1405117194;mircea_popescu;poor people are still poor. what's the deliverable exactly ? 752908;1405117206;bitcoinpete;not like they'd ever publish numbers 752909;1405117246;bitcoinpete;their deliverable is profit 752910;1405117256;mircea_popescu;well did either make a profit ? 752911;1405117261;bitcoinpete;but not too much that they kicked out of the "social enterprise" club 752912;1405117345;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/487723577144512512 752913;1405117364;bitcoinpete;where teh assbot at? 752914;1405117421;punkman;mircea_popescu: assbot: Kickstarter project spent $3.5M to finish a working prototypeand ended in disaster | Ars Technica << punkman to be fair, that's not really either important or making a lot of sense. << indeed, who cares how much money they waste. the product was very lulzy though 752915;1405117461;punkman;good discussion after that 752916;1405117566;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 752917;1405117568;gribble;130275249.623 752918;1405117776;mircea_popescu;!up justincase- 752919;1405117785;bitcoinpete;i'm off, enjoy your friday nights! 752920;1405118120;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/jacobs-ladder/ 752921;1405118482;punkman;spent the afternoon making a big sand castle, found a thai restaurant that wasn't horrible, very rewarding 752922;1405119235;punkman;oh they really stopped moderating, it wasn't just my imagination: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/kickstarter-projects-no-longer-need-human-vetting-prior-to-launch/ 752923;1405119235;assbot;Kickstarter projects no longer need human vetting prior to launch | Ars Technica 752924;1405119301;punkman;"Algorithm to replace human review of proposals." <- I just can't see that happening 752925;1405119348;punkman;apparently their algorithm always comes back with "hell yeah, let's fund this shit" 752926;1405119359;mircea_popescu;they actually did it to avoid legal responsibility. 752927;1405119389;mircea_popescu;there's really no third way : either you moderate and are actually good at it, which so far is strictly mpex, 752928;1405119398;mircea_popescu;or else you don't, in which case you can't even try. 752929;1405119481;punkman;they used to do an okay job keeping crap out, guess to many derps submitting these days 752930;1405119523;mircea_popescu;that's he problem. an ok job is actually worse for them. 752931;1405119580;punkman;it worked long enough for them to get big 752932;1405119660;mircea_popescu;true. 752933;1405119690;mircea_popescu;that 5 to 20 year latency of teh legal system 752934;1405119844;punkman;I wonder if this was always in their ToS: "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill." 752935;1405121112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 97 @ 0.01539999 = 1.4938 BTC [+] {2} 752936;1405122792;Duffer1;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686275.0 752937;1405122792;assbot;I was hacked (1170btc stolen) - 500btc max BOUNTY 752938;1405122815;Duffer1;online wallet check, reused password check 752939;1405122828;Duffer1;:/ 752940;1405122846;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Amazon stock to close at over $350 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/965/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.26310276 BTC. Current weight: 89,101. 752941;1405125415;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 752942;1405125431;gribble;Current Blocks: 310316 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 147 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17211594320.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.33751 752943;1405126114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00289995 = 0.58 BTC [+] {2} 752944;1405128510;punkman;http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-11/cynk-makes-the-case-for-buying-friends-naked-short-selling 752945;1405128510;assbot;Cynk Makes the Case for Buying Friends, Naked Short Selling - Bloomberg View 752946;1405128798;punkman;this Levine guy isn't so bad, even has footnotes 752947;1405129326;punkman;"I like Institutional Investor's boldness in picking "five hedge fund managers who are likely to deliver market-beating returns over the next 25 years." Who even manages a hedge fund for 25 years? If you deliver market-beating returns for 22 years, come on, retire, you are already fantastically rich" 752948;1405130228;mircea_popescu;;p; fpptmptes 752949;1405130237;mircea_popescu;lol footnotes* 752950;1405130247;mircea_popescu;and nobody to date ran anything for 25 years 752951;1405130351;punkman;"You'll never deter Ponzi schemers; the psychology of Ponzi'ing -- either "I am an invincible genius" or "I've lost my investors money and have no choice but to Ponzi my way back into the black" -- sort of precludes deterrence." 752952;1405130373;punkman;"The best bet is to try to convince people not to invest all their money in undiversified opaque get-rich-quick schemes and, come, on, this is America." 752953;1405130511;mircea_popescu;quite. 752954;1405130521;mircea_popescu;there's no "deterring" 752955;1405130536;punkman;only killing 752956;1405130820;mircea_popescu;not really. 752957;1405130830;mircea_popescu;it's like "deterring" black mold in your bathroom. 752958;1405130846;mircea_popescu;fix the fucking plumbing. once the fed stops leaking, the mold goes away. big whoop 752959;1405131161;mircea_popescu;punkman shot the guy an email anyway. 752960;1405131726;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 208 @ 0.0031899 = 0.6635 BTC [+] {2} 752961;1405135445;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.03897981 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.81522285 BTC. Current weight: 46,968. 752962;1405141242;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 752963;1405141243;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 634.84, Best ask: 637.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.60000, Last trade: 637.44, 24 hour volume: 7353.08856946, 24 hour low: 613.46, 24 hour high: 640.02, 24 hour vwap: 0 752964;1405141974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00315212 = 1.2608 BTC [-] {7} 752965;1405143682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 445 @ 0.00274113 = 1.2198 BTC [-] {7} 752966;1405145024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 278 @ 0.00401781 = 1.117 BTC [-] {6} 752967;1405145337;benkay; btw, if anyone's got 12 yos, get them "i sell the dead" // noted 752968;1405145675;benkay;aight i'm smokin some pots and listening to ah um 752969;1405145677;benkay;who's with me 752970;1405146003;benkay;https://twitter.com/jennschiffer/status/487703485807603714 752971;1405146078;mod6;o_O 752972;1405146427;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 351 @ 0.00319827 = 1.1226 BTC [+] {3} 752973;1405146634;*;mod6 is merging code & listening to NIN 752974;1405146850;mod6;%tslb 752975;1405146851;atcbot;22 minutes and 34 seconds 752976;1405147098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00331898 = 0.9791 BTC [-] 752977;1405147534;*;benkay is reviewing tickets and listening to mingus 752978;1405148074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.00332198 = 0.7474 BTC [+] {2} 752979;1405150453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 62 @ 0.0154387 = 0.9572 BTC [+] {2} 752980;1405151978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 952 @ 0.00322583 = 3.071 BTC [-] {6} 752981;1405152222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2251 @ 0.00273236 = 6.1505 BTC [-] {7} 752982;1405152466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 437 @ 0.00255511 = 1.1166 BTC [-] {6} 752983;1405153164;xmj;someone care to recommend a bitcoin client, gtk preferred? 752984;1405153242;benkay;i was recently made aware of a thing by the name of 'armoryd' 752985;1405153262;benkay;pyturd 752986;1405153274;benkay;plus cpp turd 752987;1405153275;*;xmj looks into electrum 752988;1405153307;benkay;mhm. 752989;1405153356;benkay;general idea is that 0.6 is okay. 752990;1405154480;mircea_popescu;* mod6 is merging code & listening to NIN << hurt ? 752991;1405156454;jurov;xmj i like electrum. at least client 752992;1405156467;xmj;cool 752993;1405156479;jurov;server is quite turd-ish if you wanna run own 752994;1405156503;fluffypony;jurov: it's not that bad, it's just not very well maintained 752995;1405156508;xmj;ugh 752996;1405156519;fluffypony;(-server I mean) 752997;1405156571;fluffypony;https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum-server/issues/61 - that happens all the time, but erasmospunk's fix has been ignored 752998;1405156571;assbot;Server crash after restart while reorganizes the blockchain Issue #61 spesmilo/electrum-server GitHub 752999;1405156668;jurov;is this KeyError: " " ? 753000;1405156698;jurov;i can't run server recentl yat all, always get above shortly after start 753001;1405156708;fluffypony;never had keyerror 753002;1405156728;fluffypony;I struggled to get server working on Ubuntu 12.04, needed to install python-leveldb from backports and all sorts 753003;1405156767;xmj;jurov: looks like a variable that should be set isn't 753004;1405156793;jurov;i made it working even under pypy :) not very helpful, sunce it's io bound 753005;1405156805;jurov;but then it stopped working at all 753006;1405156823;jurov;things to look into someday... 753007;1405157496;HyperChetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br2l9UDCUAAulw0.jpg 753008;1405157777;fluffypony;http://bitcoin.equipment 753009;1405157860;fluffypony;speaking of new TLDs 753010;1405157863;fluffypony;http://bitcoin.camera 753011;1405157865;assbot;Bitcoin.Camera 753012;1405157918;xmj;meh 753013;1405157947;xmj;i got a mail to my company address, asking if i'd wanted to buy chaot.net 753014;1405157950;xmj;er 753015;1405157953;xmj;.org 753016;1405157966;xmj;I have .net and don't use it but for email ... why do people not see such things :( 753017;1405158339;punkman;http://bitcoinsberlin.com/ any of these guys in the wot? 753018;1405158342;assbot;Bitcoin Startup Incubator - Bitcoins Berlin 753019;1405158368;fluffypony;https://medium.com/@TomOnBTC/second-biggest-member-of-bitcoin-foundation-involved-in-hacking-of-mt-gox-b97a3527b4ac 753020;1405158369;assbot;Second Biggest Member of Bitcoin Foundation Involved in Hacking of Mt.Gox Medium 753021;1405158380;fluffypony;"Not only does the Bitcoin Foundation suddenly make you seem reputable they will help you with this. They’ll post blogs about you joining, even sending out the “brass” to shill blogs such as CoinDesk to push you joining to others and making you seem further legit." 753022;1405158382;fluffypony;great quote 753023;1405158472;punkman;http://about.all4btc.com/1-million-euros-in-sales/ 753024;1405158472;assbot;Year 1: 1 million in Sales | All4btc - Buy Anything with Bitcoin 753025;1405160917;kyuupichan;This miner filling blocks with satoshi spam isn't going away. Sigh. 753026;1405160947;cazalla;1enjoy? 753027;1405160949;kyuupichan;At some stage he's gonna piss off enough people that they agree to ignore his block and continue to build on the prior one. That'd hurt. 753028;1405161688;punkman;kyuupichan: he could still spam the blockchain in 1000 other ways 753029;1405161860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 230 @ 0.00251977 = 0.5795 BTC [-] {8} 753030;1405165581;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 388 @ 0.00237368 = 0.921 BTC [-] {9} 753031;1405165886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19015952 = 1.9016 BTC [-] {5} 753032;1405165947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.19002375 = 1.5202 BTC [-] {2} 753033;1405166017;pankkake;http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/ 753034;1405166017;assbot;Kryptoradio by Koodilehto 753035;1405166313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.01566923 = 0.6111 BTC [+] {4} 753036;1405168265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00239999 = 0.72 BTC [-] {2} 753037;1405174121;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 675 @ 0.00274426 = 1.8524 BTC [+] {4} 753038;1405174182;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 195 @ 0.0027612 = 0.5384 BTC [+] 753039;1405176906;mod6;lol @ the system Z pics. thanks kako, a bit nostalgic now. 753040;1405179125;artifexd;That was fun. 753041;1405179155;artifexd;Water cooling sprung a leak and blew my power supply. I guess it could've been worse. 753042;1405179355;mod6;:( 753043;1405179459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 238 @ 0.00259516 = 0.6176 BTC [-] {2} 753044;1405180801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.65387962 BTC to 11`062 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 753045;1405180862;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.82579312 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1724 satoshi per share 753046;1405181055;mircea_popescu;jurov: is this KeyError: " " ? << no that's some db issue 753047;1405181251;mircea_popescu;fluffypony lol the rat trap is falling apart is it ? 753048;1405181672;mircea_popescu;this medium.com platform is so fucking retarded... 753049;1405181681;mircea_popescu;so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ? 753050;1405181792;mircea_popescu;artifexd: Water cooling sprung a leak and blew my power supply. I guess it could've been worse. << yes, actually. you could have been electrocuted. 753051;1405182483;asciilifeform;artifexd: if water cooling, install 'ground fault interrupter' 753052;1405182548;asciilifeform;artifexd: common widget, usually installed inside kitchen mains sockets, which senses even small difference between current flowing in through 'hot' and leaving through 'neutral' wire (e.g. through your arse) 753053;1405182570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19960054 = 0.7984 BTC [+] {2} 753054;1405183058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 330 @ 0.00250407 = 0.8263 BTC [-] {11} 753055;1405183295;mircea_popescu;yup must have. 753056;1405183296;artifexd;asciilifeform: Will a GFCI fire fast enough to save a power supply in the face of an internal short? 753057;1405183301;mircea_popescu;!up WasWoWieviel 753058;1405183313;mircea_popescu;!up bitstein 753059;1405183314;asciilifeform;artifexd: does nothing for a short. only for arse. 753060;1405183355;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it's how i finaly allowed hairdryers et all in bathrooms. 753061;1405183385;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ground fault gizmos are SOP even in gringolandia now 753062;1405183402;artifexd;Yep. We have them in both bathrooms and all over the kitchen. 753063;1405183421;artifexd;Also, oddly, in my wife's office. Not in mine though. 753064;1405183424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 113 @ 0.01551326 = 1.753 BTC [+] {4} 753065;1405183470;*;asciilifeform tired of drowned hardware many years ago, won't touch water cooling now 753066;1405183475;mircea_popescu;time to sue her ? :D 753067;1405183505;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you should prolly look into it again. you thinkl moore law's a big deal, give a look at plastics. 753068;1405183523;mircea_popescu;if an abstract "quality" value could be broadly associated, it went up a degree of magnitude each decade since 1960 753069;1405183586;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the 'correct' way to do it is to have an all-copper loop, soldered joints - like refrigerator. but, for some reason, no one does this. 753070;1405183643;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's the friction joints (hose to barb) that end up slowly leaking. 753071;1405183648;mircea_popescu;some miners do it. 753072;1405183681;asciilifeform;the photos i saw were of immersive oil cooling (think transformer booth) 753073;1405183763;artifexd;asciilifeform: That's exactly what happened. One of the connections decided to call it quits. It's what I get for using barbs and not securing it. 753074;1405183803;mircea_popescu;artifexd you know you could just glue it on the outside. 753075;1405183820;artifexd;I prefer zip ties 753076;1405183832;asciilifeform;artifexd: mine had hose clamps on all joints. theory - clamping deforms the barb, you leak anyway. 753077;1405183872;artifexd;Ever had problems with the compression connectors? 753078;1405183899;asciilifeform;artifexd: there's probably a golden mean here. a real 'saint' with a dynamometer wrench probably could've tightened the clamps exactly enough. 753079;1405183951;artifexd;I need to find a single video card that can drive all my monitors. Then I can get rid of the water cooling. 753080;1405183962;mircea_popescu;artifexd why do you prefer zip ties over say caulk ? 753081;1405184008;artifexd;Zip ties are cheap, clean, provide uniform pressure, and are easy to remove with no mess. 753082;1405184090;mircea_popescu;but they work on the same principle as the barb does. 753083;1405184104;mircea_popescu;you want convergence of principles. 753084;1405184144;mircea_popescu;(this neatly dovetails in stan's "deform barbs" problem above : if you're building an army you don't want a 2nd cavalry, to argue with your 1st. you want an infantry too) 753085;1405184157;artifexd;The work in conduction with the barb. The barb provides interior pressure against the tube. The zip tie provides exterior pressure. 753086;1405184162;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: part of the problem is the abysmal, 'consumer' quality of the available thermoblocks (pumbed heat sinks that fit particular cpu, gpu, etc) - not one, afaik, to this day, comes with even threaded connectors 753087;1405184177;asciilifeform;*plumbed 753088;1405184185;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but if they're metal... you can thread it 753089;1405184198;artifexd;Every one I has is threaded 753090;1405184228;artifexd;That's how you connect the barbs. Screw 'em in. 753091;1405184241;asciilifeform;artifexd: neat. these weren't available a decade ago. 753092;1405184259;mircea_popescu;artifexd imo the interior/exterior distinction is spurious. both work the same way really. 753093;1405184281;asciilifeform;the ones i had were machined copper encased in a plastic water jacket, with plastic barbs (non-removable) 753094;1405184289;artifexd;Ew 753095;1405184310;artifexd;Most decent water blocks don't come with connectors at all. Just threaded holes. 753096;1405184355;asciilifeform;artifexd: then the answer is clear. 'teflon' tape on the threads, connectors glued (or welded, if copper hose) to the tube. 753097;1405184447;*;mircea_popescu feels vindicated 753098;1405184464;artifexd;I don't think I would use copper tubes. My configuration changes too often. 753099;1405184473;*;asciilifeform was disappointed with water cooled machine even while it worked, on account of it still needing a few fans to operate: various parts for which no water block was available (chipset, mosfets, and power supply of that period) 753100;1405184549;artifexd;Waterblocks are available for just about everything now. It can take some looking. They aren't cheap. But they work well. 753101;1405184572;asciilifeform;artifexd: any that guarantee operation with 100% hermetically sealed case? (no case fans) 753102;1405184583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19100007 = 0.764 BTC [-] {3} 753103;1405184603;artifexd;The heat has to go somewhere 753104;1405184616;asciilifeform;pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air 753105;1405184643;asciilifeform;my sole objective was to get a silent machine 753106;1405184646;asciilifeform;failed. 753107;1405184674;artifexd;Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. 753108;1405184721;artifexd;My ears aren't near as sensitive as yours so I'm good with a few slow moving fans on the radiator. 753109;1405184734;asciilifeform;artifexd: i used a 'toyota' radiator. 753110;1405184759;artifexd;A guy I work with used a car radiator and an aquarium. 753111;1405184775;artifexd;Ugly as hell, but it seemed to work for him. 753112;1405184800;artifexd;My system is all contained in the case. 753113;1405184854;asciilifeform;artifexd: ancient photo of machine in question: http://imgur.com/uE4oR6X 753114;1405184854;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 753115;1405184891;artifexd;Is that pex? 753116;1405184897;asciilifeform;pex? 753117;1405184931;artifexd;It's the plumbing replacement for copper. Flexible tubing. 753118;1405184950;artifexd;http://www.pexinfo.com 753119;1405184951;assbot;PEX Information 753120;1405184961;asciilifeform;artifexd: 'tygon'. 753121;1405184989;asciilifeform;from chemistry supply 753122;1405185005;artifexd;Ah 753123;1405185024;mircea_popescu; pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air << not really. mostly actually cool through the metal of the pcb 753124;1405185036;mircea_popescu;if you keep the board cool they'll be fine 753125;1405185056;asciilifeform;now if only pcb had a 'water jacket' like engine block... 753126;1405185076;mircea_popescu;if you cool the bridges it'll cool through there. 753127;1405185093;asciilifeform;heuristic: if mosfet has even a small 'hedgehog', the board designer thought pcb trace cooling to be insufficient. 753128;1405185135;artifexd;Unless it's an Asus board. Then the designers thought it would look cool. 753129;1405185149;mircea_popescu;i'm telling you, they'll be fine. you're thinking in terms of air movement removing heat, but even in a sealed case, 753130;1405185158;mircea_popescu;you still have heat conductivity. 753131;1405185168;asciilifeform;the box in question would croak after 48 hrs. or so if the case was not ventilated. 753132;1405185179;mircea_popescu;as long as you keep most of the board cool, mostfets can't make enough heat to cook themselves. 753133;1405185197;mircea_popescu;well, was this the toyota radiator thing in the image ? 753134;1405185223;asciilifeform;water line ran through two cpus, disk jacket, gpu. there was still some air circulation from power supply (conventional air cooling.) but sans case fan, machine would croak reliably. 753135;1405185250;asciilifeform;the mosfets did not cook themselves - internal thermal trip. you get a shutdown. 753136;1405185284;mircea_popescu;how hot was the radiator getting ? 753137;1405185298;asciilifeform;about 40C, on a warm day. 753138;1405185326;asciilifeform;considering that it was designed to dissipate 100kw - reasonable. 753139;1405185331;mircea_popescu;were you cooling just the proc ? or bridges too ? 753140;1405185351;mircea_popescu;a, no, see, that's the key element here. 753141;1405185360;asciilifeform;idea was, bridges would be cooled by air drawn upwards by power supply fan. 753142;1405185363;mircea_popescu; Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. <<< 753143;1405185368;mircea_popescu;nah. 753144;1405185451;mircea_popescu;you basically had no cold source on the pcb. all the things you cooled were meanwhile heating towards it. 753145;1405185452;asciilifeform;that box would have probably lasted forever if it never had to be moved. 753146;1405185597;asciilifeform;if i were to attempt it again, i'd probably just machine a copper plinth in which the mobo can live, upside-down, with fins on bottom side. 753147;1405185619;asciilifeform;if plinth is large enough, no need for water. 753148;1405185651;mircea_popescu;the one similar thing i saw was purpose made copper tray filled with thermosilicone, on which pcb rested. 753149;1405185660;mircea_popescu;(no cpu involved, this wasn't a computer) 753150;1405185672;asciilifeform;this is SOP for large rectifiers, etc. 753151;1405185702;asciilifeform;you get a 'sarcophagus' similar to the one pictured in the $20k oscilloscope film. 753152;1405186074;asciilifeform;that machine served me through all of uni & a bit longer. RIP 'humanoid', 2001-2007. (named after line from soviet film, approximately 'humanoid rockets through the sky, screaming out that school's a lie') 753153;1405186154;asciilifeform;freebsd 4. 753154;1405186296;mircea_popescu;i still have board/cpu assemblies from the 90s 753155;1405186309;asciilifeform;likewise. and '80s... 753156;1405186325;mircea_popescu;amusing how shitty psus became, incidentally. the originals usualy last > a decade. the replacements, maybe even 5 years. 753157;1405186330;mircea_popescu;then the replacements 2 if you're lucky. 753158;1405186384;asciilifeform;one can still achieve the 10+ life - by removing all chinese electrolytic caps and replacing with normal ones 753159;1405186418;asciilifeform;or, alternatively, purchasing a unit where there never were chinese caps (difficult now - the chicoms have taken to mimicking the japanese markings) 753160;1405186544;asciilifeform;at some point the japanese parts will no longer get shipped in (won't pass the geiger at the container crane!) and then we'll really be phucked. 753161;1405186883;punkman;http://domainincite.com/16963-a-million-domains-taken-down-by-email-checks 753162;1405186884;assbot;A million domains taken down by email checks | DomainIncite - Domain Name News & Opinion 753163;1405187084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.0156 = 0.7488 BTC [+] 753164;1405187397;punkman;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart 753165;1405187397;assbot;Adrian Carton de Wiart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 753166;1405187866;mircea_popescu;punkman the success of "domainers" and domains being "real estate" 753167;1405187877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00240361 = 0.9614 BTC [-] {7} 753168;1405187899;mircea_popescu;10mn a year people had been paying just for those, in the hopes htey'll sell them on to suckers. something tells me 2013 had not colected 10mn worth of chump money. 753169;1405187937;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform or, who knows, maybe the chinese start making actually good parts. 753170;1405187950;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: now why would they make those for export. 753171;1405187967;asciilifeform;(answer: they will - if you pay. but who will pay.) 753172;1405187999;*;asciilifeform randomly wandered into an old book store last night, saw a textbook on romanian language. every chapter opened with some example of torments from the 'russian yoke.' 753173;1405188037;*;asciilifeform saw that it was shelved - unsurprisingly - next to a volume of pushkin, in russian. 753174;1405188109;mircea_popescu;lol 753175;1405188143;mircea_popescu;if you had wandered into bookshelv in vienna cca 1814, you'd have seen the same book 753176;1405188146;mircea_popescu;ottoman yoke. 753177;1405188153;asciilifeform;naturally. 753178;1405188176;mircea_popescu;who knows, maybe 514, roman yoke 753179;1405188200;mircea_popescu;zee romanians have this yoke thing. at the rate the eu is going... by 2114... 753180;1405188631;mircea_popescu;http://sniggle.net/cole.php 753181;1405188637;mircea_popescu;this guy is pretty good. 753182;1405188644;mircea_popescu;" When he stumbled on a road crew without a foreman one day, Cole leaped into the breach and directed the men to Londons busy Piccadilly Circus, where he had them excavate a huge trench in the street. A nearby policeman obligingly redirected the heavy downtown traffic all day, and it was several hours before the city noticed the unauthorized hole. 753183;1405191232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 490 @ 0.00232034 = 1.137 BTC [-] 753184;1405191622;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ken-park/ 753185;1405191720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 462 @ 0.00210002 = 0.9702 BTC [-] {4} 753186;1405191781;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1128 @ 0.0021 = 2.3688 BTC [-] {3} 753187;1405191933;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ever see pasolini's 'salo' ? 753188;1405191964;mircea_popescu;oddly you're the 2nd person to ask me this today. has it just been re-released or something ? 753189;1405191979;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/salo-o-le-120-giornate-di-sodoma/ 753190;1405191981;assbot;Salo, o le 120 giornate di Sodoma pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 753191;1405191982;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not afaik. just can't help but remember it in light of your post 753192;1405191997;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/ (referenced there, and plenty of other places, 753193;1405192001;assbot;Soft consensus, aka fecal matter. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 753194;1405192003;asciilifeform;aha 753195;1405192010;mircea_popescu;in fact the monograph is a result of me getting sick of referencing it blind) 753196;1405192049;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2009/test-de-cultura-vizuala-2/ (early "visual culture test", too) 753197;1405192050;assbot;Test de cultura vizuala 2 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 753198;1405192067;mircea_popescu;nobody guessed it x.x 753199;1405192107;mircea_popescu;o nm, actually, abuncha people guessed it. 753200;1405192345;asciilifeform;from the loltron: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/dprk-film-complaint.pdf 753201;1405192371;asciilifeform;^ http://pastebin.com/WnmRuECG 753202;1405192371;assbot;United Nations A/68/934S/2014/451 General Assembly Security Counci - Pastebin.com 753203;1405192454;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform can you name a film where the us president (named) is killed ? 753204;1405192498;mircea_popescu;"It is their firm determination to mercilessly destroy anyone who dares hurt or attack the supreme leadership of the country even a bit." shit sounds like john cleese was the copywriter in charge. 753205;1405192527;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: only him and no one else? 753206;1405192539;BigBitz;Rik Mayll was helping before he died. 753207;1405192562;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform just as long as it's "obama was killed" 753208;1405192574;mircea_popescu;or w/e,. bush, ford, pick your incumbent. 753209;1405192581;asciilifeform;films like 'dr strangelove' where 'everybody dies' not count ? 753210;1405192585;mircea_popescu;nope. 753211;1405192635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 207 @ 0.0146999 = 3.0429 BTC [-] {4} 753212;1405192663;asciilifeform;'They've Killed President Lincoln!' (1971.) 753213;1405192691;mircea_popescu;BigBitz what was it, coke ? 753214;1405192703;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not depiction of actual historical event. 753215;1405192705;BigBitz;what was what amigo? 753216;1405192707;mircea_popescu;killed by the novie. 753217;1405192711;mircea_popescu;BigBitz rik mayll 753218;1405192716;BigBitz;You don't know Rik Mayll bud? 753219;1405192725;mircea_popescu;i dont recall how he died 753220;1405192728;BigBitz;Very funny English Comedian/Writer. 753221;1405192732;BigBitz;He died after a run. 753222;1405192738;BigBitz;heart attack/complications. 753223;1405192741;mircea_popescu;didn't he just have a mysterious coronary ? 753224;1405192744;BigBitz;I don't believe drug related. 753225;1405192751;mircea_popescu;aha. i always thought it was cocaine 753226;1405192776;BigBitz;Ah. I Hope not... I liked him. 753227;1405192780;BigBitz;Drugs be bad, yo! 753228;1405192866;Apocalyptic;pankkake, davout http://caccomo.blogspot.fr/ a decent blog I stumbled upon today 753229;1405192866;assbot;Chroniques en libert 753230;1405193305;asciilifeform;'The "extra" pinchers are attached to a LCR meter for the machine to "measure" each component before it put it down! You wont find that on the $5K Chinese machines!' << had no idea this existed. anywhere. 753231;1405193322;asciilifeform;(from http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMT-Pick-and-Place-Machine-Siemens-ms72-with-modern-GUI-includes-source-code-/171380699124) 753232;1405193380;asciilifeform;'All of the mechanical stuff on this unit is from the 80's (When the mechanical stuff was great because the computers sucked)' << re: earlier discussion of power supplies. 753233;1405193496;mircea_popescu;heh 753234;1405193786;*;asciilifeform would buy the above gadget but for the 3-phase mains - and the fact that it would fall through the floor. 753235;1405194160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 772 @ 0.00210129 = 1.6222 BTC [-] {3} 753236;1405194341;fluffypony;mircea_popescu:so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ? <- you can just Tweet @TomOnBTC 753237;1405194341;fluffypony;oh 753238;1405194342;fluffypony;wait 753239;1405194344;fluffypony;:-P 753240;1405195325;mircea_popescu;lol 753241;1405195396;mircea_popescu;i can only tweet @whatever for as long as he doesn't kill anyone. 753242;1405195401;mircea_popescu;bitcoin needs better infrastructure than that. 753243;1405195413;fluffypony;lol 753244;1405195946;asciilifeform;needs better infrastructure than that >> blockchain telegraph! 753245;1405196541;mircea_popescu;i bought a blockchain dildo the other day 753246;1405196546;mircea_popescu;still haven't unpacked it. 753247;1405197759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 613 @ 0.002299 = 1.4093 BTC [-] {2} 753248;1405197820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1783 @ 0.00255334 = 4.5526 BTC [+] {10} 753249;1405197881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2445 @ 0.00273631 = 6.6903 BTC [+] {14} 753250;1405198946;artifexd;I know mpex went down due to hard drive issues. Isn't it back up? I haven't seen any mpex trades in a few days. 753251;1405201585;benkay;http://www.designboom.com/technology/airtype-keyless-bluetooth-keyboard-07-11-2014/ 753252;1405201585;assbot;AirType keyless bluetooth keyboard fits in the palm of your hand 753253;1405202276;mircea_popescu;artifexd not yet 753254;1405202281;mircea_popescu;changing a bunch of stuff. 753255;1405202303;artifexd;aok 753256;1405202521;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2agpe1/is_there_a_site_for_betting_on_sports_games_with/ reddit knows 753257;1405202522;assbot;Is there a site for betting on sports games with BTC? : Bitcoin 753258;1405203464;mircea_popescu;;;seen mike_c 753259;1405203464;gribble;mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: and a gentleman 753260;1405203644;asciilifeform;benkay: terrible idea. just like touch screen keyboards (or that israeli firm that made a 'laser' keyboard drawn on table.) 753261;1405203706;asciilifeform;why does this crud appear again and again? no one heard of 'gorilla arm syndrome' and the like? 753262;1405203797;asciilifeform;fingers need mechanical feedback 753263;1405203804;asciilifeform;(not only for pleasure, but to absorb impact.) 753264;1405203837;asciilifeform;people seem intent on discovering new classes of 'repetitive' injury. 753265;1405204014;benkay;they keypress is required to prevent bruising? 753266;1405204217;mircea_popescu;benkay paradoxically, yes. 753267;1405204228;mircea_popescu;try punching as hard as you can in the air, see what happens. 753268;1405204240;mircea_popescu;same mechanics apply to finger movement too. 753269;1405204258;mircea_popescu;if there isn't a face there to stop your fist, your arm has to do it. and it's not really equipped or designed for such. 753270;1405204334;benkay;certainly, but if one's tapping on the table? 753271;1405204354;mircea_popescu;then there's the table. i thought this was supposed to be mid air tho 753272;1405204437;benkay;"virtually any surface, or none at all." 753273;1405204552;thestringpuller;http://bitcoin.equipment/ 753274;1405204564;thestringpuller;didn't even know .equipment was a valid suffix 753275;1405204632;benkay;thestringpuller: i want man.systems 753276;1405204670;mircea_popescu;sissy.systems 753277;1405204719;benkay;http://dumb.domains/ 753278;1405204720;assbot;DUMB.domains 753279;1405204726;benkay;wank.holiday 753280;1405204754;mircea_popescu;actually that site is pretty good thestringpuller 753281;1405204843;thestringpuller;redditards deliver sometimes I s'pose 753282;1405204862;mircea_popescu;this has sa/buttcoins all over it. 753283;1405204890;mircea_popescu;basically, there are some competent redditards. they're the people who came to reddit to hide among the redditards. 753284;1405206543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 176 @ 0.00402999 = 0.7093 BTC [+] 753285;1405206618;mircea_popescu;anyone wanna code me a website ? 753286;1405207177;kakobrekla;what, you mean like css? 753287;1405207262;mircea_popescu;nah 753288;1405207319;mircea_popescu;im toying with the general idea of distributed effort to destroy social media. this'd be an experiment in that sense. 753289;1405208953;mircea_popescu;;;later tell hanbot remember the guy that sent a complaint to spanish police (where he was at the time being an romanian temp worker) that mtgox won't send him proof of its id ? he's dead. 753290;1405208954;gribble;The operation succeeded. 753291;1405208981;benkay;social. yum. 753292;1405209044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 116 @ 0.01635687 = 1.8974 BTC [+] {12} 753293;1405209131;mircea_popescu;benkay all these broken wots everyone's implemented. 753294;1405209328;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47057 << if anyone's curious how the entire bitcoin-by-country irc nonsense got started. 753295;1405209328;assbot;Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk 753296;1405209346;mircea_popescu;tl;dr: shut-in (mizeridearia) got bored one day. 753297;1405210264;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 49 @ 0.0141001 = 0.6909 BTC [-] 753298;1405211057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.01679599 = 0.5039 BTC [+] {3} 753299;1405212050;mircea_popescu;looking at this data, bitcoin is just about the largest one thing on freenode. 753300;1405212186;mike_c;what's bigger? 753301;1405212400;mircea_popescu;depends how you count, but not really much. 753302;1405212426;mircea_popescu;http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/medien-mehr-als-ein-dutzend-spione-in-ministerien-13042586.html 753303;1405212426;assbot;Medien: Mehr als ein Dutzend Spione in Ministerien 753304;1405212433;mircea_popescu;apparently zee germans found some spies 753305;1405212819;mircea_popescu;mike_c the best part is where wikipedia and darkcoin are about the same size. 753306;1405212822;mircea_popescu;lulzy mcloll. 753307;1405212864;mike_c;wow 753308;1405212918;mircea_popescu;a little ahead of... dwarf frothress 753309;1405212925;mircea_popescu;or w/e the pixel fountain is called. 753310;1405213098;mircea_popescu;and since we're on the lulz, 753311;1405213099;mircea_popescu;"Built and operated in the United States, Bittrex is the next generation crypto trading platform created by security professionals. We are crypto-coin enthusiasts bringing more than 50 years of combined security and development experience to the trading community from companies, including Microsoft, Amazon, Qualys, and BlackBerry. 753312;1405213100;mircea_popescu;Given the recent security breaches and reliability issues experienced by other markets, we felt the community deserved better. If virtual currencies are to truly take off, trustworthy infrastructure is a prerequisite." 753313;1405213146;mircea_popescu;* Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to send emails OR use topics... 753314;1405213269;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 753315;1405213294;BayAreaCoins;Thanks man. How are you doing today? 753316;1405213371;mircea_popescu;as good as can be expected i guess. 753317;1405213396;BayAreaCoins;Another day of the life eh ;) 753318;1405213432;mircea_popescu;so how's the bay area for coins ? 753319;1405213653;BayAreaCoins;Going pretty good man. I'm kind of in that limbo stage of waiting on nerdos to finish up code... Feel like that has been the story of my life for 4-6 months :) 753320;1405213710;BayAreaCoins;I think once all of it comes together... well it will come together :P Just kind of selling a gun or two while I wait. I need a new bag because I'm sorta bored with everything atm.. Life :D 753321;1405213740;BayAreaCoins;How is Romania for coins? Pretty wide usage over there? 753322;1405213750;mircea_popescu;i'm in... argentina. 753323;1405213798;mike_c;what are the nerdos working on? 753324;1405213862;BayAreaCoins;mike_c A automated drop shipping company and then a alt that I think is semi interesting (Huntercoin) 753325;1405213905;mike_c;automated drop shipping of what? you got warehouses or connections to suppliers? 753326;1405213908;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu ah very nice. I think if I was going to live in South America I'd be looking at Belize (ambergris caye.) Any reason why you chose Argentina over the other countries? 753327;1405213956;mircea_popescu;well, it seemed cooler, basically. 753328;1405213983;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu haha hell ya 753329;1405214168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19000949 = 5.7003 BTC [-] {8} 753330;1405214207;mircea_popescu; !worth 1 753331;1405214207;mircea_popescu; mol: 1.0 DRK @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|53s) = 0.010474 BTC / 6.66 USD (source:bitstamp:40s) 753332;1405214207;mircea_popescu; !mnstats 753333;1405214207;mircea_popescu; mol: 673 active masternodes (source:elbzone|8m6s) @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|1m4s) = 7048.87 BTC / 4490058.05 USD in stake (source:bitstamp|55s) 753334;1405214211;BayAreaCoins;mike_c No need for warehouses or partnerships to start out with. Basically what the company is going to do is relist items with a very small price bump and automate everything. We have been testing with 200 items for the past little bit and are seeing a good chunk of volume moving. I guess my main concern is that the shippers do their job because refunds are going to be a total and complete pain in the ass. 753335;1405214213;mircea_popescu;darkcoin is so shitting lulzy 753336;1405214225;thestringpuller;;;define equanimity 753337;1405214225;gribble;Error: "define" is not a valid command. 753338;1405214230;thestringpuller;;;google equanimity 753339;1405214230;gribble;Equanimity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Equanimity - Merriam-Webster Online: ; Equanimity | Define Equanimity at Dictionary.com: 753340;1405214234;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins is this your first attempt ? 753341;1405214263;thestringpuller;sounds like bitcoinshop.us ...... 753342;1405214272;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu at a automated drop shipping company? Yes it is 753343;1405214280;thestringpuller;you might as well just buy an amazon gift card off of GYFT 753344;1405214334;mike_c;good luck, it's a crowded field. got a website up? 753345;1405214384;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins well then you won't be too surprised we just expect you to fail and learn from the experience ? 753346;1405214443;BayAreaCoins;mike_c not yet, still working on the code. Drop shipping Amazon from Ebay to start out with. Domain is locked down and I submitted articles of organization last night. 753347;1405214473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18510001 = 0.9255 BTC [-] 753348;1405214502;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu I never go into anything expecting to fail, but if I do that is why I have the LLC up :P 753349;1405214534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18251127 = 1.4601 BTC [-] {4} 753350;1405214537;BayAreaCoins;Can't live life in fear of failure or you'll never take the chance you need to succeed. If I had a nickle for every time I fucked up... I'd have far more nickles than I do now ;) 753351;1405214540;mircea_popescu;i guess an automated online auction scalper isn't the absolute worst first project someone may try. 753352;1405214621;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu No inventor and no employees that is always a plus. It'll be interesting needless to say. Our ebay lister is stacked with 24,000 items, but getting ebay to up our limits is a bit of a pain in the ass. 753353;1405214770;BayAreaCoins;What are you guys investing in BTC wise as of late? Losing JD has me a bit lost on the BTC investment side. Although, I'm balls deep in a alt I think has a good chance. 753354;1405214785;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/mEhgyHdV << i do something like this maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe once a year. this is what i get. 753355;1405214785;assbot;* Now talking on #bittrex * Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to s - Pastebin.com 753356;1405214835;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins there's fmpif which is roughly similar. 753357;1405214938;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/877/difficulty-over-21bn-by-summers-end-2014/ << 21bn huh. 753358;1405214938;assbot;BitBet - Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014 :: 12.38 B (94%) on Yes, 0.78 B (6%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 52`857 (100`000 to 3) 753359;1405214959;mike_c;;;bc,stats 753360;1405214961;gribble;Current Blocks: 310477 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 2002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17408856848.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.41843 753361;1405215009;mircea_popescu;tempting as hell. 753362;1405215233;mike_c;still looking good for Monday? i'm getting an idiff itch. 753363;1405215424;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 753364;1405215431;BayAreaCoins;Thank you kindly 753365;1405215452;mircea_popescu;mike_c so far. you never know with these things until you get to test them 753366;1405215710;BayAreaCoins;Mostly in the Altcoin world I'm just trying to keep my holdings of HUC @ 5-10% of the O/S... I feel like ever since DOGE it has just exploded with shit on shit that is topped off with shit. 753367;1405215725;mircea_popescu;you don't say. 753368;1405215760;mike_c;"a human mine-able crypto currency" you know some people around here think BTC is human mineable. 753369;1405215853;BayAreaCoins;I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs. Which I've got my fingers cross will bring more people into the crypto currency scene. It is at least different and the devs are know. 753370;1405215877;BayAreaCoins;Only thing that is semi tough is the need for HUC to start out mining HUC. Which is a good thing too at the same time. 753371;1405215896;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu do you think we will continue to see this horrible trend of shit on shit? 753372;1405215903;mircea_popescu;human minable, i don't understand. 753373;1405215985;BayAreaCoins;www.Huntercoin.info that is the block chain. 90% of the coins are distributed via the "game" inside the wallet. To keep the network secure 5% Sha-256 and 5% Scrypt (dual merge mining.) 753374;1405216014;mircea_popescu;why would you suspect humans are playing the game inside the wallet ? 753375;1405216030;BayAreaCoins;I would suspect humans and bots. 753376;1405216092;BayAreaCoins;I'm more interested in the mining power behind it and the networks on going security. Total supply : * 2734040 HUC Hashrate : * sha256 : 2 818.74TH/s * scrypt : 13.30GH/s 753377;1405216112;BayAreaCoins;It has a long way to go though and some problems to be address 753378;1405216120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1020 @ 0.00245009 = 2.4991 BTC [-] 753379;1405216219;mircea_popescu;i don't understand how dual sha-scrypt improves security. 753380;1405216229;mircea_popescu;in pricniple it should lower it to the security of the lowest of the two 753381;1405216309;BayAreaCoins;I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to go a head and pass that question along as well because I'd be interest in the response. Shits n giggles ya know 753382;1405216365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.181 = 1.991 BTC [-] 753383;1405216402;BayAreaCoins;I've seen their web base browser play that will allow people to instantly start "mining" though game play. Right now to sync the wallet is... well.. fucking huge to say it nicely. Probably has the largest bloat of any coin their is. 753384;1405216413;BayAreaCoins;there is* ffs 753385;1405216422;BayAreaCoins;NMC is a bitch to sync too though 753386;1405216438;mircea_popescu;!s reddit 753387;1405216439;assbot;838 results for 'reddit' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reddit 753388;1405216489;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu you a big reddit fan? :P 753389;1405216512;mircea_popescu;mnop 753390;1405216604;BayAreaCoins;mnop? 753391;1405216612;mircea_popescu;sort of like a mumbled no. 753392;1405216623;BayAreaCoins;Kinda figured that hahaha :D 753393;1405216646;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu so still not big on the Off Shore Paper Wallet idea either eh?! 753394;1405216659;mircea_popescu;what idea whas that again ? 753395;1405216723;BayAreaCoins;Basically exactly what it sounds like. Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws. Therefore giving the world the ability to chose which country they store their coins in safely. 753396;1405216734;BayAreaCoins;Jumping jurisdictions with coins pretty much 753397;1405216887;BayAreaCoins;Maybe there is something already like that that I am unaware of as well though 753398;1405217146;mircea_popescu;why would anyone bother with this ? 753399;1405217264;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/depreshibe 753400;1405217265;assbot;A place for Depressed shibes to chat about things and vent 753401;1405217268;mircea_popescu;this still exists! 753402;1405217329;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 753403;1405217356;BayAreaCoins;LOL ooo dogecoin bahaha Thank good ole Klye and dooglus for that one :D I gave away so many millions of DOGE in JD chat. 753404;1405217382;mircea_popescu;for a total of < 1 btc ? 753405;1405217392;BayAreaCoins;haha probably ish ;) 753406;1405217410;BayAreaCoins;Got 140BTC out of 100 million of them though about 753407;1405217419;BayAreaCoins;Not to shaby for a months work 753408;1405217433;mircea_popescu;"I am a 23 yr M, diagnosed Bi-Polar:NoS with a history of Mixed States. Or, in other words, I faily to cope with my body's confusion on being manic and depressed at the same time, causing an abundance of frustration that turns to almost uncontrollable anger. I currently live with my fiancee, we are to be married this year, at the end of September, I'm on permanent disability for a variety of mental incapacitates." 753409;1405217444;mircea_popescu;why would a woman fiancee some 23 yo guy like that ? 753410;1405217454;mircea_popescu;this has got to be the bottom of the bottomless pit of gold digging 753411;1405217456;BayAreaCoins;Bitches love problems of course 753412;1405217458;mircea_popescu;like a lead digger 753413;1405217491;BayAreaCoins;But let me jump back to that off shore paper wallet thing really quick if you don't mind. 753414;1405217569;BayAreaCoins;I think a number of people in my country (America) are very very interested about how to bank "off shore", but they don't have the proper contacts. I believe if this was set up it would give people the ability to go off shore within a hour of deciding they wanted to (by using btc, also the extra $ flowing in isn't going to kill any of us either) 753415;1405217578;BayAreaCoins;Do you not see that in Europe as much? 753416;1405217586;BayAreaCoins;and Argentina 753417;1405217645;mircea_popescu;you seem to think "people" is a thing. "people" is not a thing, but at least two : the people who don't matter, and the people who, if they feel like it, fly over here, open a bank box and bang a coupla hotties the same night 753418;1405217652;mircea_popescu;for any value of *here* 753419;1405217668;mircea_popescu;now why would a lawyer want to be involved with group A, and why would group B want to share with a lawyer ? 753420;1405217767;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu I've already contacted a few firms and they of course want to be involved for the same reason as any other law firms wants to be involved with anything.. Money. I think that group B would want to privately be involved with group A because it is better than having some FEDs come grab your lap top while you are reading in the Sci-Fi section 753421;1405217797;mircea_popescu;methinks mebbe re-read what i said ? 753422;1405217806;BayAreaCoins;ah ok 1 sec 753423;1405217894;BayAreaCoins;I totally agree about the two people thing. Group a = Myself and group B = potential customers? 753424;1405217916;mircea_popescu;no. 753425;1405217923;mircea_popescu;a = poor people ; b = rich people. 753426;1405218064;mircea_popescu;you know, dear #bitcoin-assets, my short walk around the other freenode chans has really made me appreciate how much this chan rocks. 753427;1405218076;mircea_popescu;all.the.tools.omfg. 753428;1405218199;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly, http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2ahc1u/i_was_given_my_first_1_on_dec7th_my_birthday_now/ 753429;1405218218;mircea_popescu;submitted 23 hours ago by Doge_Pro - investor shibe 753430;1405218273;BayAreaCoins;I would make the argument that there is a C. This would be middle class people who have a bank balance >250,000 (which is what FDIC insurance here in this country) but less than $1,500,000. I think that it would be more pointed towards them because I think people between those #'s are still a bit timid. 753431;1405218318;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins people who have 1/4mn can afford to fly wherever the fuck they please. 753432;1405218339;mircea_popescu;and no, the distinction is lower than that. something like 90% of us people own 1k or less in net assets. 753433;1405218351;BayAreaCoins;Obviously there is a decent demand for offshore banking, but I don't know a single one that I can set up within 10minutes from the comfort of my house and have it funded as well. Sure you can afford the flight, but you'll get laughed out of the bank. 753434;1405218358;BayAreaCoins;Wow 90%? 753435;1405218374;mircea_popescu;yes. americans are really vely poor. 753436;1405218405;BayAreaCoins;I think a lot of them are happy with being poor... which is disgusting. 753437;1405218433;BayAreaCoins;However I can assure you there are a number of us who aren't :) Don't get too down on good ole 'Murica ;) 753438;1405218443;mircea_popescu;https://moolah.io/store/ << look at that, no more store. 753439;1405218444;assbot;An Error Occurred: Not Found 753440;1405218493;BayAreaCoins;hmmm da fux... they close down shop I guess? I saw their little video leak.. I had a good chuck over that. Jackson is absolutely horrible to work with.... I like Billy a fuck of a lot more. 753441;1405218512;mircea_popescu;i have no idea who billy is 753442;1405218524;BayAreaCoins;Billy coded DOGE and Jackson was the marketing fuckhead 753443;1405218547;BayAreaCoins;I did a lot of talking to billy prior to Doge-dice launch 753444;1405218585;mircea_popescu;anyway, those of you who aren't aren't well advised to share where you hide your remaining wealth with anyone 753445;1405218589;mircea_popescu;especially not a govt employee 753446;1405218595;mircea_popescu;(which is what any lawyer is) 753447;1405218804;BayAreaCoins;Well I suppose that is why I stumbled though here again to pick your head a bit. If you knew someone was coming to get you right now and they were going to tear your house down brick by brick searching it... where would you put your coins? (feel free to tell me to fuck off) 753448;1405218816;BayAreaCoins;it being your coin wallet 753449;1405218826;mircea_popescu;i'd just shoot them. 753450;1405218839;mircea_popescu;https://darkcointalk.org/threads/report-of-c-cex-situation-with-drk-because-of-feb-23-accident.1677/ << here's a little bit of lulzy 753451;1405218840;assbot;Report of C-CEX situation with DRK because of feb, 23 accident. | DarkcoinTalk 753452;1405218848;mircea_popescu;"After "darkman" that find my mistake and get used of it made return of some DRK, exchange had about 250K DRK in wallet with discrepancy of about 50K DRK. Then I reversed DRK/BTC transactions made with him. After that I made another big mistake: I did not disabled withdrawals for users with negative balances." 753453;1405218865;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 921 @ 0.00251488 = 2.3162 BTC [-] {6} 753454;1405218877;BayAreaCoins;Right of course. I sell fire arms for bitcoin too on BTCtalk, but I only ship to America atm which probably isn't much help for you :) 753455;1405218988;BayAreaCoins;So you would rely 100% on your ability to shoot. I would think if I was put in that situation I would want to have a place to drop them off in case I got hit during the fire fight... that way I could leave the coins to my family or what not (like setting up a Trust) 753456;1405218999;BayAreaCoins;(? not a . on that first line) 753457;1405219033;mircea_popescu;why would i shoot them personally ?! 753458;1405219048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00248999 = 0.5578 BTC [-] 753459;1405219127;BayAreaCoins;Well unless you are fucking bullet proof you might have to blast their ass if they come in your house! :P Never mind, but good points. Thanks man 753460;1405219184;mircea_popescu;you're acting as if security is some sort of novel thing. it's not. security is actually older than computers, 753461;1405219187;mircea_popescu;and than steam engine. 753462;1405219295;mircea_popescu;"[14-06-23 14:07:53] C-CEX: There is no Your, or my coins. I explained situation. That happens. I did not take any customer's coin." 753463;1405219298;mircea_popescu;pretty fucking epic. 753464;1405219405;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 753465;1405219411;mircea_popescu;get in that wot already wouldja. 753466;1405219499;BayAreaCoins;haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P 753467;1405219623;mircea_popescu;o.o 753468;1405219648;BayAreaCoins;a bitcent per up! ;) haha :D 753469;1405219664;mircea_popescu;i guess i'll be rich. 753470;1405219719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00265863 = 0.7843 BTC [+] {6} 753471;1405219743;BayAreaCoins;hahaha slowly but surely! :D 753472;1405219800;BayAreaCoins;I had a venture last year that made like $200,000 a nickle at a time rofl 753473;1405219809;BayAreaCoins;Metric fuck ton of nickles 753474;1405219870;mircea_popescu;you don't rly know who i am do you ? 753475;1405219881;BayAreaCoins;I do 753476;1405219928;mircea_popescu;speaking of bitcents, kinda amazing no further camwhores came forward. 753477;1405219928;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 753478;1405219980;BayAreaCoins;haha is that a reference to the nickle thing too ;) 753479;1405220006;BayAreaCoins;Which camwhores do you speak of or all of them in general accepting BTC for donations? 753480;1405220032;mircea_popescu;!s tits 753481;1405220033;assbot;463 results for 'tits' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits 753482;1405220055;mircea_popescu;click all the img links 753483;1405220126;BayAreaCoins;Haha nice :D Good ole webcams :) 753484;1405220159;BayAreaCoins;I was involved with them since 2010... my profile structure is actually one of the most copied there is on MyFreeCams now 753485;1405220168;BayAreaCoins;Young n dumb.. young n dumb 753486;1405220168;mircea_popescu;really ? 753487;1405220171;BayAreaCoins;Yes 753488;1405220175;mircea_popescu;so then help spread the news ? im giving away .1 per head. 753489;1405220216;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << details. 753490;1405220217;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 753491;1405220248;BayAreaCoins;haha It would be my pleasure to help :) 753492;1405220261;BayAreaCoins;I'll tell a few 753493;1405220264;mircea_popescu;do a girl a favour today! i hear money's tough. 753494;1405220275;BayAreaCoins;It's hard out there ;) hahaha (song) 753495;1405220321;BayAreaCoins;http://profiles.myfreecams.com/RavinTavin 753496;1405220322;assbot;RavinTavin's Homepage on MyFreeCams.com 753497;1405220331;BayAreaCoins;I believe she takes BTC and there are a few others too 753498;1405220737;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu what did you do prior to CryptoCurrencies? I assume you were successful prior? 753499;1405220750;BayAreaCoins;Feel free to tell me to get fucked, I was just wondering 753500;1405220804;mircea_popescu;prior to that i ran romania's most read blog, a local digg like service (reddit wasn't really all that big yet). 753501;1405220808;mircea_popescu;before that i was retired. 753502;1405220917;BayAreaCoins;What was your main bag that got you to that point of first retirement? I'm not trying to Q and A your ass of course 753503;1405220952;benkay; I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs // oh god what is going on here 753504;1405220962;mircea_popescu;benkay don't ask. 753505;1405220968;BayAreaCoins;lol don't ask 753506;1405221077;BayAreaCoins;Who wants to make $10 a hour anyways...*rolls eyes ungratefully* :D 753507;1405221305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00240128 = 2.4013 BTC [-] 753508;1405221312;benkay; haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P // 'course, you'll have to get rated, too. 753509;1405221327;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: link to the dead man (if there is a link) ? 753510;1405221335;asciilifeform;and i leave for a day, and slavecoin (!) walks in ? 753511;1405221336;mircea_popescu;who, this ? 753512;1405221373;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-07-2014#753289 753513;1405221374;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 753514;1405221421;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform guy's nick was paraipan. he had cancer. no link afaik. 753515;1405221426;asciilifeform;aha 753516;1405221433;*;asciilifeform instantly assumed nailgun 753517;1405221443;mircea_popescu;because you're a simpleminded paranoid! 753518;1405221444;asciilifeform;'human-minable cryptocurrency' 753519;1405221461;*;asciilifeform guilty as charged 753520;1405221541;*;asciilifeform saw film, 'snowpiercer' - an otherwise ridiculous cheap sf flick with some good meat re: hierarchy and the nature of 'derp' 753521;1405221555;mircea_popescu;so, half liter screwdriver, made out of right-now pressed oj and 12 yo cognac ? well, about $4 for the oranges, about $3 for the b randy. 753522;1405221556;mircea_popescu;that 753523;1405221563;mircea_popescu;s pesos, of course. 50 cents. 753524;1405221843;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws << lol, seriously think that law is a thing? 753525;1405221852;nam-shub_;probably the worst time to ask, but what's a two bedroom apartment cost there mp? 753526;1405222406;assbot;BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 753527;1405222608;asciilifeform;!up BayAreaCoins 753528;1405222630;BayAreaCoins;Thank you kindly, I'm getting it worked out. Want a bitcent ;) lol 753529;1405222650;BayAreaCoins;and lol @ slavecoin too, I really hope it doesn't turn into that. 753530;1405222660;asciilifeform;!s slavecoin 753531;1405222661;assbot;18 results for 'slavecoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=slavecoin 753532;1405222750;BayAreaCoins;I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin :) I'm still waiting for Klu Klux Koin because I know it will get in a lot of peoples feelings :D 753533;1405222766;benkay; I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin // how would it not? 753534;1405222856;BayAreaCoins;Sadly you are going to have child labor in everything... all the way from making shoes to now mining. I don't think it can be avoided, but I think the game is swinging more toward bots... which obviously doesn't matter bot or not if it is a 5 year old running it. 753535;1405222914;BayAreaCoins;Not that I've seen any confirmed cases of that, but it is a thought. 753536;1405222942;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: consider answering question from earlier 753537;1405222952;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: why do you believe that law will protect your customers 753538;1405222981;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: or that it ever makes logical sense to trust another person with your private key 753539;1405223007;BayAreaCoins;I believe a lack of laws will protect potential customers. 753540;1405223052;benkay;5 yo's running bots? 753541;1405223065;benkay;i'm just having the tiniest bit of trouble stitching this into something coherent. 753542;1405223065;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: let's draw a picture. scenario 'a' - current state of the art. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he coughs up his private key. 753543;1405223104;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: scenario 'b' - your service exists. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he makes the magic phone call to $country where his coins are 'trustily' stored. 753544;1405223176;BayAreaCoins;Well first off it will be a bucket of water and a pillow case :) 753545;1405223185;asciilifeform;in scenario 'b', there is a 'private key' just as in 'a' 753546;1405223190;asciilifeform;and it goes to the same place. 753547;1405223203;asciilifeform;except that the fellow in 'b' is poorer even before the inquisitor shows up. 753548;1405223240;BayAreaCoins;I believe it would need to be set up to were the client can instantly send the coins from anywhere in the world, but actually has to pick them up in person or have someone who is part of the "trust" pick them up. (in case the primary account holder dies ect.) 753549;1405223296;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: fine. they take his family and sharpen N stakes, one for each hostage. and send him to pick up. 753550;1405223302;BayAreaCoins;Right 753551;1405223319;BayAreaCoins;That has to be the clients choice, but either way the coins are safe at the end of the day. 753552;1405223320;BayAreaCoins;Family or no family 753553;1405223328;dub;well, no family 753554;1405223335;dub;or client 753555;1405223360;BayAreaCoins;Way she goes 753556;1405223406;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: do you imagine that the greatest threat to an american btc user's stash is burglars, fire, flood? 753557;1405223438;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: if this were so, he could simply keep his coldwallet in a bank deposit box (or some number of them, via shamir's algorithm) 753558;1405223551;BayAreaCoins;I have to be frank with you... this is more for people who are looking to get hit by some government entity such as PDR. I do keep my paper wallets in banks between California and Arkansas. However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC 753559;1405223570;BayAreaCoins;Divorces, blah blah blah you know the shit that happens in life 753560;1405223590;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: what you don't appear to understand is that this is a 'military' puzzle, not a 'legal' puzzle. 753561;1405223609;asciilifeform;enemy is under no obligation to follow whatever rules of engagement 753562;1405223622;dub;theres the small issue of there being no market at all for such a service 753563;1405223651;dub;anyone who is willing to die and sacrifice family to protect coin will be doing so without help 753564;1405223652;asciilifeform;dub: this is rather like saying there is no market for a perpetuum mobile. of course there is. but, go build it. 753565;1405223723;asciilifeform;and by pitching a service explicitly to 'appeal to next DPR', you become... DPR. in the sense that once his stake is vacated, you will sit down on it. 753566;1405223746;dub;if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive 753567;1405223752;BayAreaCoins;dub That was a extreme event that was brought up by asciilifeform. I would venture to say that there is a market for people who are looking for privacy and the ability to store value where they want in the world. 753568;1405223775;asciilifeform;privacy and the ability to store value where they want << the existing blockchain provides this. 753569;1405223815;BayAreaCoins;Correct but the majority of people in the world have 0 fucking clue wtf the blockchain is and if they do they are scared of losing their shit. Look at coinbase building their "safe" wtf is the point of that! ;) 753570;1405223821;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: describe a scenario where a user of your service will come out unscathed, where a user of plain bitcoin would perish. 753571;1405223874;BayAreaCoins;asciilifeform lets say you are in SF and you're reading a book in the Sci-Fi section... lol haha :P no but really. 753572;1405223882;BayAreaCoins;Not just that of course either. 753573;1405223895;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: see the point about the stake. 753574;1405223906;mircea_popescu;nam-shub_ to buy you mean ? 753575;1405223929;nam-shub_;say what? 753576;1405223932;asciilifeform;BayAreaCoins: the only way you could conceivably 'save' a 'DPR' is to put - distance, army, navy, missile battery - between his arse and the nice folks in washington 753577;1405223941;mircea_popescu; I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin << srsly, "hopefully" is all you got ? 753578;1405223956;mircea_popescu;nam-shub_ what an appt costs to buy or to rent 753579;1405223966;mike_c;speaking of sitting on stakes, how you enjoying your stake BayAreaCoins? :) 753580;1405223967;nam-shub_;oh yeah, to buy 753581;1405223998;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu it is decentralized. Dunno what else I could have in regards to combating that. 753582;1405224019;mircea_popescu;nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping. 753583;1405224024;BayAreaCoins;mike_c Medium rare and yummy as always :P 753584;1405224063;mircea_popescu;!up GNULinuxGuy 753585;1405224069;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust GNULinuxGuy 753586;1405224069;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user GNULinuxGuy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=GNULinuxGuy | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=GNULinuxGuy | Rated since: never 753587;1405224081;mircea_popescu;;;rate GNULinuxGuy 1 New blood 753588;1405224082;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 753589;1405224144;BayAreaCoins;mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P 753590;1405224162;mike_c;i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied. 753591;1405224179;mike_c;it can be helpful, but it is sharp. 753592;1405224246;mircea_popescu;"However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC" 753593;1405224251;mircea_popescu;this is the lulziest shit i read all day,. 753594;1405224288;asciilifeform;reminds of old saying: 'eat right. exercise. die very surprised.' 753595;1405224292;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu I mean I ship my guns using FFL's and require permits to transfer snails across state lines :) 753596;1405224327;BayAreaCoins;mike_c I grew up on Battle.net (Blizzard Entertainment games) and I've always hung around successful people... so I don't mind getting my balls busted. It is good for me 753597;1405224343;dub;lol 753598;1405224348;BayAreaCoins;is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha 753599;1405224350;mircea_popescu;i miss herbi 753600;1405224365;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins let's take this one meta further. 753601;1405224377;BayAreaCoins;*prepares balls* 753602;1405224377;mircea_popescu;the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken 753603;1405224398;asciilifeform;;;seen herbijudlestoids 753604;1405224398;gribble;herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <3 753605;1405224403;mircea_popescu;not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her. 753606;1405224408;mircea_popescu;the world works exactly backwards. 753607;1405224418;dub;he's invented mybitcoin 753608;1405224477;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common. 753609;1405224490;mircea_popescu;the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is" 753610;1405224499;mircea_popescu;the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with" 753611;1405224521;mircea_popescu;the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was, 753612;1405224525;mircea_popescu;but plenty more in the same vein. 753613;1405224598;mircea_popescu;dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive << your summary is approved. when do you quit your dayjob to do ba logs summary full time ? 753614;1405224651;asciilifeform;'everyone' has a use for atomic dirigible. except for the folks who can afford it. 753615;1405225088;dub;i dont have a day job 753616;1405225234;mircea_popescu;buncha fucking bums in this chan 753617;1405225237;mircea_popescu;nobody can keep a job. 753618;1405225383;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 << darkcoin dramz 753619;1405225385;mircea_popescu;!up stormlight 753620;1405225409;asciilifeform;dead link? 753621;1405225419;mircea_popescu;apparently they got a hard fork. 753622;1405225440;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 < that work ? 753623;1405225440;assbot;[ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | Fork for Masternode Payments! 753624;1405225452;asciilifeform;aye 753625;1405225712;mircea_popescu;"Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network? 753626;1405225712;mircea_popescu;Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin? 753627;1405225712;mircea_popescu;Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?" 753628;1405225722;mircea_popescu;in case you didn't know this... apparently darkcoin is a big deal. o.O 753629;1405225901;mircea_popescu;http://www.cityam.com/1403524841/darkcoin-fails-rise-after-latest-hardfork-failure << this REALLY sounds a lot like solidcoin. 753630;1405225901;assbot;Darkcoin fails to rise after latest hardfork failure | City A.M. 753631;1405225997;benkay;hardfork failure? 753632;1405226016;benkay;a new language for your new coin 753633;1405226059;benkay;had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes." 753634;1405226083;danielpbarron;!up BayAreaCoins 753635;1405226116;BayAreaCoins;Ah damn, thank you sir. 753636;1405226129;*;danielpbarron accepts bitcents 151enbTugrchY8YB8adH3rRjAHez9VFAvd 753637;1405226139;BayAreaCoins;k <3 :D 753638;1405226161;mircea_popescu;;;calc 3600 * 24 / 512 * 25 753639;1405226161;gribble;4218.75 753640;1405226202;mircea_popescu;so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ? 753641;1405226204;mircea_popescu;the magix. 753642;1405226399;BayAreaCoins;danielpbarron 0fc3075cbfb1e8cb9f1f8b114086291a79ca543a8dd2485ca11afc3ad0d395aa 753643;1405226448;mircea_popescu;ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision. 753644;1405226486;mike_c;just for the record, sometimes the supervison sucks. 753645;1405226486;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ? 753646;1405226494;mircea_popescu;mike_c agreed. 753647;1405226502;mircea_popescu;i am not proposing to excuse the idiocy of the phb. 753648;1405226528;BayAreaCoins;lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;) 753649;1405226535;BayAreaCoins;*sarcasm* 753650;1405226633;mircea_popescu;only took like 3 months or so i reckon 753651;1405226680;danielpbarron;sweet! thanks, BayAreaCoins 753652;1405226762;BayAreaCoins;Not a problem man! Thank you 753653;1405226826;BayAreaCoins;What do you guys what to see next for bitcoin that doesn't exist right now or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? 753654;1405226857;decimation;Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them? 753655;1405226902;mircea_popescu;decimation he's new, give him a break. 753656;1405226912;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins you're new, so nobody really knows what you';d be good at. 753657;1405226922;mircea_popescu;that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while. 753658;1405226938;benkay;or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto 753659;1405227010;mircea_popescu;benkay i bet you 64.58.198.181 answers on all teh windows ports. 753660;1405227117;benkay;webchat forwards user IP? 753661;1405227139;mircea_popescu;this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to. 753662;1405227166;benkay;BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on. 753663;1405227180;BayAreaCoins;No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say. 753664;1405227183;benkay;mircea_popescu: of course it *can*. *does*, though. 753665;1405227205;BayAreaCoins;benkay excuse me for getting stoned. Gotta give me a min.. I go to bed and wake up everyday with my big boy spider man underware 753666;1405227250;BayAreaCoins;benkay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDITyYfua8 753667;1405227251;assbot;Bernie Mac I Ain't Scared of You Mofos - YouTube 753668;1405227275;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot. 753669;1405227316;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu ya I'll get on that this week. I have a Thompson 1927-A1 coming in next week I can probably get listed and sold ASAP. 753670;1405227346;mircea_popescu;that's not the important part there. 753671;1405227432;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu Ok, I'll read into it and get it taken care of. 753672;1405227552;decimation;re: net worth of 'merican adult: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/americans-have-relatively-poor-net-wealth-cm257517 753673;1405227552;assbot;Americans Have Relatively Poor Net Wealth - NASDAQ.com 753674;1405227569;decimation;only 28% of us adults have over $100k 753675;1405227640;mircea_popescu;decimation that thing uses bad real estate data. 753676;1405227641;benkay;underwarez 753677;1405227645;mircea_popescu;!up Graet 753678;1405227676;kyuupichan;lol 753679;1405227704;BayAreaCoins;;) :D lol 753680;1405227732;cazalla;:In Australia, over 65% of all adults have a net worth exceeding $100,000" 753681;1405227740;cazalla;we also have inflated property prices out the ass 753682;1405227761;mircea_popescu;cazalla exactly. 753683;1405227764;mircea_popescu;http://econintersect.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/z-temp3.png 753684;1405227769;decimation;well, in May 2014 the median existing home price was $213,400 in the us http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HOSMEDUSM052N 753685;1405227770;assbot;Median Sales Price of Existing Homes - FRED - St. Louis Fed 753686;1405227773;mircea_popescu;this thing claims aussies are 50% richer than austrians 753687;1405227775;kyuupichan;Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on. 753688;1405227775;mircea_popescu;this is ludicrous. 753689;1405227784;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan enjoy. 753690;1405227793;decimation;anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck 753691;1405227798;mircea_popescu;decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per. 753692;1405227802;mircea_popescu;"provided noone sells" 753693;1405227821;decimation;right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house 753694;1405227835;decimation;the median us adult is therefore a debt slave 753695;1405227865;mircea_popescu;if you adjust those numbers for real-real estate prices, you get about 90% ish of us peeps under 1k (which is also your error, or at least mine) 753696;1405227906;mircea_popescu;also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match 753697;1405227909;decimation;so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value" 753698;1405227974;mircea_popescu;ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe. 753699;1405227976;mircea_popescu;SWEDEN. 753700;1405227981;mircea_popescu;thing's fucking borked. 753701;1405228070;decimation;doesn't sweden have a government minimum income 753702;1405228176;kyuupichan;Another blockchain spammer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7 753703;1405228176;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7 753704;1405228239;mircea_popescu;there will be an infinity of these 753705;1405228374;decimation;http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/ << apparently nearly 50% of us households carry a credit card balance monthly 753706;1405228375;assbot;American Household Credit Card Debt Statistics: 2014 753707;1405228394;decimation;so they cleary have less than $0 net worth 753708;1405228439;mircea_popescu;How to create a masternode? - Get a machine with a static ip 753709;1405228443;mircea_popescu;this is the anon coin. 753710;1405228452;mircea_popescu;it relies on... machines with static ips. 753711;1405228464;mircea_popescu;decimation right. 753712;1405228521;decimation;I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose 753713;1405228696;benkay;decimation: truth. 753714;1405228698;mircea_popescu;decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them). 753715;1405228730;decimation;lol https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-401k-balance-age/ "Supposedly two-thirds of working households age 55-64 with at least one earner have retirement savings less than one times their annual income. Given the median household income is roughly $52,000, that?s not a good sign." 753716;1405228733;assbot;The Average 401k Balance By Age 753717;1405228733;mircea_popescu;of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions 753718;1405228738;mircea_popescu;that leaves 10%, of which about half are expats. 753719;1405228751;decimation;or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck 753720;1405228762;mircea_popescu;the mood strikes. 753721;1405228837;benkay;<- pending exile 753722;1405228846;mircea_popescu;jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought. 753723;1405228869;benkay;!s from: benkay darkcoin 753724;1405228870;assbot;0 results for 'from: benkay darkcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+benkay+darkcoin 753725;1405228933;mircea_popescu;ha. 753726;1405228976;benkay;yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid." 753727;1405229059;decimation;when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults 753728;1405229069;mircea_popescu;i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours" 753729;1405229076;mircea_popescu;2 hours later i am... where's that cat gif 753730;1405229111;mircea_popescu;http://www.artic.edu/~lfreit/catsoftheinternet/images/scared%20kitten.jpg 753731;1405229306;decimation;re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently 753732;1405229327;mircea_popescu;the russians halped. 753733;1405229352;mircea_popescu;germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel. 753734;1405229356;mircea_popescu;the us is not in any top. 753735;1405229405;mircea_popescu;!up basquiat_ 753736;1405229413;basquiat_;anyone use havelock? 753737;1405229416;decimation;what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg? 753738;1405229428;benkay;https://unsee.cc/napube/ 753739;1405229428;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 753740;1405229436;mircea_popescu;decimation how do you know it didn't ? 753741;1405229446;mircea_popescu;!s havelock 753742;1405229447;assbot;65766 results for 'havelock' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock 753743;1405229448;mircea_popescu;basquiat_ ^ 753744;1405229465;mircea_popescu;aw shit bad link. one sec 753745;1405229477;decimation;are you saying the auction never took place? 753746;1405229482;mircea_popescu;!s havelock -from:assbot 753747;1405229483;assbot;916 results for 'havelock -from:assbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock+-from%3Aassbot 753748;1405229540;mircea_popescu;decimation nah. 753749;1405229568;decimation;I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k 753750;1405229633;benkay;well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness 753751;1405229641;benkay;vagrant destroy && vagrant up 753752;1405229651;benkay;./provision 127.0.0.1 2222 753753;1405229656;benkay;"okay girls, let's go!" 753754;1405229724;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#717140 you know ? 753755;1405229725;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 753756;1405229893;decimation;eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above 753757;1405229917;mircea_popescu;i really don't see a conflict. 753758;1405229923;mircea_popescu;how's it work ? 753759;1405230027;decimation;some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right? 753760;1405230049;mircea_popescu;you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ? 753761;1405230055;mircea_popescu;yeah, i see that. 753762;1405230405;[]bot;Bet created: "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ 753763;1405230699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19971884 = 1.1983 BTC [+] {2} 753764;1405230760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999326 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2} 753765;1405234603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+] 753766;1405235945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.002615 = 0.5884 BTC [-] 753767;1405236555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268999 = 0.538 BTC [-] 753768;1405237283;punkman;!up BayAreaCoins 753769;1405241181;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c hey, https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << after 1 year, everyone's on - 753770;1405241182;assbot;Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 2 - War of Life 753771;1405241182;gribble;The operation succeeded. 753772;1405242716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.00911084 = 0.574 BTC [-] {2} 753773;1405243053;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892. 753774;1405243082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 500 @ 0.03079906 = 15.3995 BTC [-] 753775;1405243083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 500 @ 0.012 = 6 BTC [-] {3} 753776;1405243247;dub;who won game 16? 753777;1405243421;mircea_popescu;well there's no "win" per se. 753778;1405243450;mircea_popescu;https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/activity/ 753779;1405243451;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 753780;1405243456;mircea_popescu;some people made a profit, some made a loss 753781;1405243470;mircea_popescu;death mostly made a loss. 753782;1405243480;dub;fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice 753783;1405243511;dub;death beat life though right? 753784;1405243521;mircea_popescu;the link is there 753785;1405243536;dub;i cant see it 753786;1405243548;mircea_popescu;Death 5094 Life 4906 753787;1405243556;mircea_popescu;so yeah, by like 2% 753788;1405243580;mircea_popescu;https://btc.waroflife.com/ << see where it says "game 16 - finished" ? 753789;1405243580;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 753790;1405243597;dub;try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it 753791;1405243640;mircea_popescu;on the where ? 753792;1405243675;mircea_popescu;it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game 753793;1405243696;dub;yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely? 753794;1405243741;dub;anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game 753795;1405243806;mircea_popescu;lol you lost ?! 753796;1405243821;dub;yes 753797;1405243835;mircea_popescu;how the hell can you lose 753798;1405243870;dub;by backing the winning team. clearly 753799;1405243875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-] 753800;1405243880;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 753801;1405243903;mircea_popescu;this sounds just like a buttcoin game. 753802;1405243908;mircea_popescu;now i know it's gonna be successful. 753803;1405243923;mircea_popescu;it all hinged on having something like bitbet's "omgwtfbbq i bet on winning side and lost!" 753804;1405244002;mircea_popescu;lol so i peeled .33 off this satoshi dice clone thing 753805;1405244227;punkman;dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks 753806;1405244246;mircea_popescu;^ 753807;1405244258;mircea_popescu;this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh 753808;1405244268;mircea_popescu;mike is wise. 753809;1405244275;dub;i realise that 753810;1405244537;punkman;;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame 753811;1405244537;gribble;The operation succeeded. 753812;1405245325;dub;more like ketamine, chances are it will put you to sleep and only people with personality issues go back for more 753813;1405245400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 562 @ 0.0026855 = 1.5093 BTC [-] 753814;1405245522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0176 = 0.528 BTC [+] {2} 753815;1405246254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01832875 = 1.4663 BTC [+] {6} 753816;1405246864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01879254 = 1.0148 BTC [+] 753817;1405251988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.01264998 = 0.6072 BTC [+] {6} 753818;1405252110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.03079906 = 1.54 BTC [-] 753819;1405252111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.013 = 0.65 BTC [+] 753820;1405252207;punkman;%mined 753821;1405252209;atcbot;[ATC Mined] Current: 20193280 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 7.52 753822;1405252246;punkman;%diff 753823;1405252247;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 547975.01 in 879 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.21 753824;1405252368;cazalla;crying baby, fuck kill me now 753825;1405252567;kyuupichan;;;bc,stats 753826;1405252570;gribble;Current Blocks: 310551 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1928 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19843861618.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.46411 753827;1405252589;kyuupichan;Gribble very bullish difficulty 753828;1405252635;kyuupichan;3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation 753829;1405252648;kyuupichan;Had ~ 50TH 753830;1405252726;kyuupichan;He'd budgeted +10% difficulty each period for rest of 2014; seems about right to me 753831;1405252761;kyuupichan;Sell my BTC for holiday; BTC jumps 1.5% 753832;1405252811;kyuupichan;Small fraction of BTC, that is 753833;1405252993;kyuupichan;I sense increasing govt apprehension abt BTC 753834;1405253013;cazalla;holiday to where? 753835;1405253042;kyuupichan;cazalla: Maldives; mentioned it a while ago. Not exactly cheap, as I discovered. 753836;1405253061;kyuupichan;Well, it's my 14-years late honeymoon. 753837;1405253066;cazalla;i wanna piss off to angeles 753838;1405253073;cazalla;not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P 753839;1405253150;kyuupichan;I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected 753840;1405253161;kyuupichan;:) 753841;1405253178;kyuupichan;Though initial booking + cancellation was quite a nightmare 753842;1405253195;cazalla;meh i'd still use credit card if i was doing that 753843;1405253231;kyuupichan;cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then. 753844;1405253312;cazalla;just seems a hassle, as you described 753845;1405253582;cazalla;so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund? 753846;1405253651;kyuupichan;Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless. 753847;1405253697;cazalla;predictable though 753848;1405253699;kyuupichan;Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful. 753849;1405253745;kyuupichan;All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date. 753850;1405253759;kyuupichan;Expedia insist on cancel + rebook. 753851;1405253766;cazalla;going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc 753852;1405253785;kyuupichan;Sure, but I'm underweight fiat; would rather not spend it as not much left :) 753853;1405253939;BigBitz;tried Destinia.com kyuupichan? 753854;1405254082;kyuupichan;BigBitz: No never heard of it. I used btctrip.com for flights for 2nd time without issue (bad experience with cheapair, though that seems unusual) and expedia for hotels. 753855;1405254208;kyuupichan;Seems they don't have my hotel :( 753856;1405260162;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5502 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.06307729 BTC. Current weight: 97,814. 753857;1405261809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1500 @ 0.0046455 = 6.9683 BTC [+] {18} 753858;1405263505;jurov;http://www.mcst.ru/novyj-8yadernyj-mikroprocessor-elbrus-8c 753859;1405264181;artifexd;"ability to perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle, which provides high performance at moderate clock frequency" <- wow 753860;1405264652;jurov;dunno if this isn't itanium-like pipe dream 753861;1405264778;jurov;will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation 753862;1405265347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.00266355 = 0.5593 BTC [-] {5} 753863;1405265408;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.00265205 = 1.0343 BTC [-] {4} 753864;1405267034;artifexd;!up hanbot 753865;1405267098;artifexd;!up hanbot 753866;1405267105;hanbot;a ty 753867;1405267109;hanbot;that was strange 753868;1405267113;artifexd;gribble lost me so I had to reauth 753869;1405267121;hanbot;ah 753870;1405267155;artifexd;What are you up to now days? 753871;1405267213;hanbot;;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother. 753872;1405267214;gribble;The operation succeeded. 753873;1405267233;hanbot;artifexd, actually, i've been trying to write. 753874;1405267238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.59579552 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1704 satoshi per share 753875;1405267302;hanbot;how about yourself? 753876;1405267324;artifexd;Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster. 753877;1405267339;artifexd;World Cup has us pretty busy. 753878;1405267346;hanbot;bikes? cars? 753879;1405267361;artifexd;software 753880;1405267376;hanbot;oh yeah. 753881;1405267423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69116640 BTC to 11`660 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 753882;1405267613;hanbot;so what do you do with the wc? 753883;1405267748;artifexd;If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software. 753884;1405268031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.02987824 = 1.5238 BTC [-] 753885;1405268034;artifexd;One of my projects is a custom streaming audio server. High performance, customized streams for each client, transcodes one input to multiple output formats, blah, blah, blah. 753886;1405268055;asciilifeform;artifexd: perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle << you can make a 'pipeline' as long as you like. it ends up mostly full of NOPs. 753887;1405268063;artifexd;It isn't interesting to talk about, but advertisers love it and it is a lot of fun (and frustration) to work on. 753888;1405268083;asciilifeform;if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation << russian, chinese, martian CPUs will be interesting when - and not before - they swear off x86 emulation. 753889;1405268159;artifexd;If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing. 753890;1405268167;asciilifeform;artifexd: exactly. 753891;1405268227;artifexd;Are you speculating that it is a pipeline measurement or are you certain? 753892;1405268239;asciilifeform;artifexd: well, the classic 'elbrus' was pipelined. 753893;1405268256;asciilifeform;so it's a reasonable presumption. no, i don't have the manual for the new one. 753894;1405268267;artifexd;Aren't all processors pipelined now? 753895;1405268283;artifexd;To some degree, at least. 753896;1405268294;asciilifeform;all but the cheapest embedded cpu 753897;1405268948;mircea_popescu;goood mornin' boys an' gals. 753898;1405268999;artifexd;!up hanbot 753899;1405269027;thestringpuller;;;gettrust assbot hanbot 753900;1405269028;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=hanbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot | Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013 753901;1405269031;thestringpuller;lol 753902;1405269040;artifexd;she asked 753903;1405269091;mircea_popescu;ahh look at the short logs. 753904;1405269179;mircea_popescu;;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc. 753905;1405269180;gribble;The operation succeeded. 753906;1405269243;mircea_popescu;dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ? 753907;1405269270;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining. 753908;1405269323;mircea_popescu;cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ? 753909;1405269495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-] 753910;1405269504;mircea_popescu;"The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrificuntil it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write." 753911;1405269509;mircea_popescu;ah, if only they had heard of urbit. 753912;1405269522;mircea_popescu;they could have just made jets. 753913;1405269592;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory) 753914;1405269606;mircea_popescu;right. 753915;1405269632;mircea_popescu;logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus. 753916;1405269659;mircea_popescu;(how do you like my new 64 Gb Snark ?) 753917;1405269662;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is. 753918;1405269701;asciilifeform;sorta like howard hughes and his 'spruce goose' 753919;1405269710;mircea_popescu;well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting" 753920;1405269718;mircea_popescu;the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative" 753921;1405269727;*;asciilifeform failed to get excited 753922;1405269766;mircea_popescu;well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal. 753923;1405269785;*;asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain... 753924;1405269831;mircea_popescu;i think you're right 753925;1405269849;mircea_popescu;they woefully misjudged their market position, too. 753926;1405269861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.0121 = 1.21 BTC [-] 753927;1405269863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-] 753928;1405269930;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc) 753929;1405269985;mircea_popescu;that too. but even should ms have had it ready on t+1minute, and if it worked splendidly (lolk, but bear with me) 753930;1405269997;mircea_popescu;the net result would have been foss+amd buldgeoning them into a fine paste. 753931;1405270025;mircea_popescu;so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way 753932;1405270036;mircea_popescu;there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway 753933;1405270051;mircea_popescu;classical example, "if only the nightcop hadn't turned around just then". 753934;1405270053;mircea_popescu;ya, right. 753935;1405270060;mircea_popescu;!up basquiat_ 753936;1405270349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 74 @ 0.0116404 = 0.8614 BTC [-] {2} 753937;1405270380;assbot;nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 753938;1405270449;mircea_popescu;!up nam-shub 753939;1405270455;mircea_popescu;trust vectored fighters are fucking cool. 753940;1405270571;benkay;does anyone have a copy of john brooks Business Adventures? 753941;1405270656;benkay;someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html 753942;1405270898;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the real marvel is that itanics are still being produced. 753943;1405270932;asciilifeform;(or at least they were, last year...) 753944;1405270973;mircea_popescu;didn't they name one after a senator or something ? 753945;1405270997;asciilifeform;http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/itanium/itanium-kittson-update.html 753946;1405270997;assbot;Intel Itanium Processors Update 753947;1405271006;asciilifeform;afaik, a city 753948;1405271012;mircea_popescu;hm 753949;1405271017;mircea_popescu;what am i confusing it with 753950;1405271031;asciilifeform;every single building at u.s. national institute of health? 753951;1405271040;asciilifeform;(named after senator who disbursed some payola) 753952;1405271050;mircea_popescu;no dude 753953;1405271056;mircea_popescu;;;google poulson itanium 753954;1405271057;gribble;Itanium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Intel finally releases 9500-series Itanium, announces plans to merge ...: ; Intel's Eight-Core, Heavily-Updated Poulson Itanium Breaks Cover ...: (1 more message) 753955;1405271627;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 753956;1405271631;gribble;Current Blocks: 310581 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18900118669.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.02038 753957;1405272168;punkman;was just looking at this, f.mpif pc4 stands to make almost 10% (if favored side wins on pending bets): http://i.imgur.com/g5MPhbF.png 753958;1405272253;mircea_popescu;wow srsly ? 753959;1405272284;punkman;!up hanbot 753960;1405272391;mircea_popescu;http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ 753961;1405272392;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 753962;1405272395;mircea_popescu;so far it's red all around tho 753963;1405272592;hanbot;punkman looks pretty good imo, but yep, ruddy atm. 753964;1405272661;hanbot;i'm rooting for a red card tonight 753965;1405272713;mircea_popescu;there's gotta be a red card 753966;1405272723;mircea_popescu;if not they're not even trying. 753967;1405273012;thestringpuller;i need to stop binge watching netflix 753968;1405273162;mircea_popescu;this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted. 753969;1405273175;mircea_popescu;during the intervening month, they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter. 753970;1405273213;mircea_popescu;holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know. 753971;1405273250;hanbot;mircea_popescu sounds like a shrimp farmer 753972;1405273267;mircea_popescu;lol wut? 753973;1405273333;hanbot;the publisher. casts a wide net, no anticipation of catching actual fish, just interested in a big mass of little bits. 753974;1405273383;mircea_popescu;oh. 753975;1405273390;mircea_popescu;jesus that must suck. 753976;1405273406;mircea_popescu;"why find a few good friends in this world, just pretend everything in it is an earthworm 753977;1405273412;hanbot;i'm sure it stinks, anyway. 753978;1405273584;hanbot;yeah. in the name of clutching at what they think they want, most people will put on some pretty ridiculous costumes. 753979;1405274150;mircea_popescu;BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir 753980;1405274150;mircea_popescu;cury - we have the goods and we WILL deliver. 753981;1405274151;mircea_popescu;Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech 753982;1405274153;mircea_popescu;-Tec guitar tubes) 753983;1405274155;mircea_popescu;this should be an ipo. 753984;1405274423;punkman;mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40% 753985;1405274454;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 753986;1405274570;punkman;yep, http://i.imgur.com/B4bugC5.png 753987;1405274641;mircea_popescu;can you do some more math erroring, get it to 160% ? 753988;1405274705;mircea_popescu;that "pending gain" is a best case sort of number no ? 753989;1405274721;punkman;if favored side wins, yeah 753990;1405274867;punkman;if I pick the favored side by total btc in the pot, then pending gain goes to -1.43 BTC 753991;1405275015;punkman;(todo: make stats exportable) 753992;1405275069;mircea_popescu;so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little. 753993;1405275093;mircea_popescu;hanbot good point re the bombs yeah 753994;1405275199;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 753995;1405275210;mircea_popescu;o hey the crowds are getting rowdy 753996;1405275284;mircea_popescu;http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/drought-shaming-pitting-neighbors-against-neighbors-on-social-media/ 753997;1405275284;assbot;Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media « CBS Sacramento 753998;1405275285;punkman;mircea_popescu: yea we'll see how that goes, though hanbot's allocation of BTC is slightly better than global bitbet allocation so far. 753999;1405275287;mircea_popescu;drought shaming lol 754000;1405275300;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ^ 754001;1405275358;asciilifeform;? 754002;1405275387;mircea_popescu;a slighly scarce resource, and there are the informants, 754003;1405275398;mircea_popescu;there are the brown brigades, 754004;1405275402;asciilifeform;more interesting (linked from above) - http://now100fm.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/weird-news-wednesday-waitresses-wear-guns-in-restaurant << notice the stock pic - who the hell has a soviet 'TT' ?! 754005;1405275403;assbot;Weird News Wednesday: Waitresses Wear Guns In Restaurant « NOW 100.5 FM 754006;1405275406;mircea_popescu;there's the whole story. "could not happen here" 754007;1405275409;asciilifeform;(bottom right hand corner of pic) 754008;1405275428;mircea_popescu;no, that's a cult gun 754009;1405275437;indiancandy1;i wonder what assange thinks of btc 754010;1405275450;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 he loves it. 754011;1405275528;asciilifeform;http://demotivators.to/media/posters/1990/622228_luchshe-starenkij-tt-chem-dzyudo-i-karate.jpg << 'Лучше старенький ТТ чем дзюдо и карате' ~= 'better have an old TT, than judo and karate' 754012;1405275548;mircea_popescu;i dunno, they're god-awful 754013;1405275573;asciilifeform;better than the 1890s seven-shooter that preceded it, by most accounts 754014;1405275590;indiancandy1;some seriose protests going on in london 754015;1405275593;indiancandy1;really bizzar 754016;1405275600;indiancandy1;free palestine mallarky 754017;1405275682;mircea_popescu;!up stormlight 754018;1405275701;indiancandy1;go argentina 754019;1405275708;indiancandy1;mircea u having a wc party round urs 754020;1405275746;punkman;wonder if this is all the BTC wikileaks has now: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v 754021;1405275746;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v 754022;1405275783;asciilifeform;punkman: just one mystery remains - why do they need coin. 754023;1405275862;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 the whole street's a party 754024;1405276043;punkman;asciilifeform: seems like most of that was spent in December 2013 754025;1405276052;asciilifeform;punkman: but on what 754026;1405276086;mircea_popescu;new year's party ? 754027;1405276212;indiancandy1;im so jelous 754028;1405276217;indiancandy1;why didnt u buy me a ticket 754029;1405276219;indiancandy1;to come over 754030;1405276309;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: afaik mircea_popescu expects guests to buy own ticket 754031;1405276330;indiancandy1;his the billionair 754032;1405276333;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 because you didn't do whatever video. 754033;1405276336;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: (when friends visit you, do you pay their fare?) 754034;1405276336;indiancandy1;what is 700 usd to him 754035;1405276346;indiancandy1;im poor 754036;1405276351;indiancandy1;i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash 754037;1405276359;mircea_popescu;o.o 754038;1405276365;mircea_popescu;camho rap, who knew this was a thing 754039;1405276367;indiancandy1;0.0 754040;1405276372;indiancandy1;o.0 754041;1405276392;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 wait, are you a poor indian ?! 754042;1405276423;mthreat;define poor 754043;1405276445;mircea_popescu;mthreat "i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash" ? 754044;1405276477;indiancandy1;yap 754045;1405276483;indiancandy1;great definition 754046;1405276507;indiancandy1;im a poor half indian/greek 754047;1405276519;mircea_popescu;now b-a really has everything. 754048;1405276548;indiancandy1;b a british airways? 754049;1405276549;indiancandy1;LOL 754050;1405276559;mircea_popescu;nah this chan. bitcoin-assets 754051;1405276571;mircea_popescu;or, alternatively, buenos aires. which is why i moved here, to troll b-a 754052;1405276579;mircea_popescu;ambiguitytroling 754053;1405276585;indiancandy1;maybe coz the electricy is cheap there 754054;1405276604;indiancandy1;and the chicks got fat ass 754055;1405276615;mircea_popescu;the ass is nice, that's true. 754056;1405276637;indiancandy1;ya 754057;1405276637;kyuupichan;mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there 754058;1405276638;indiancandy1;it is 754059;1405276650;mircea_popescu;kyuupichan no argument. but still. 754060;1405276652;indiancandy1;ass ass ass ass 754061;1405276663;indiancandy1;boobs? 754062;1405276688;mircea_popescu;sure. 754063;1405276778;mircea_popescu;https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ <<< wtf happened here ? 754064;1405276779;assbot;Game 17 - Death 5082 Life 4918 Year 68 - War of Life 754065;1405276785;mircea_popescu;did i just win like .87 btc ? 754066;1405276840;indiancandy1;omg 754067;1405276844;indiancandy1;its my birthday 754068;1405276845;indiancandy1;:P 754069;1405276848;indiancandy1;gift me 754070;1405276850;indiancandy1;some 754071;1405276886;indiancandy1;has anyone got 754072;1405276888;indiancandy1;snapchat 754073;1405277018;mircea_popescu;mnop 754074;1405277050;indiancandy1;have you got a smart phone mircea 754075;1405277057;indiancandy1;or you got a stone age 754076;1405277059;indiancandy1;1 754077;1405277062;mircea_popescu;nope 754078;1405277064;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 754079;1405277071;indiancandy1;why not 754080;1405277077;mircea_popescu;i don't like them 754081;1405277085;indiancandy1;so how do u call ur mom 754082;1405277088;indiancandy1;n family back home 754083;1405277104;mircea_popescu;people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ? 754084;1405277117;mircea_popescu;i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit. 754085;1405277129;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 i have a normal phone 754086;1405277139;mircea_popescu;AND a secretary. 754087;1405277148;mircea_popescu;well, more than one actually as it turns out 754088;1405277154;indiancandy1;does she give you bjs under the table 754089;1405277156;indiancandy1;or he* 754090;1405277178;mircea_popescu;notrly 754091;1405277190;mircea_popescu;that's a different skillset. 754092;1405277244;indiancandy1;i just thought u know bill clinton did it so 754093;1405277266;mircea_popescu;that was an aide. 754094;1405277274;mircea_popescu;no skillset. 754095;1405277280;asciilifeform;aide << 'secretute' 754096;1405277290;indiancandy1;secretute lmao 754097;1405277302;asciilifeform;секретутка. 754098;1405277311;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform amusingly enough, tuta pl tute is how you say stupid woman in romanian 754099;1405277312;indiancandy1;ascii are you romani aswell 754100;1405277314;mircea_popescu;well... one of the many ways 754101;1405277321;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: nope 754102;1405277334;mircea_popescu;yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D 754103;1405277342;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: you ought to know they ditched cyrillic there in... 1870s? 754104;1405277380;indiancandy1;can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work 754105;1405277386;mircea_popescu;;;8ball 754106;1405277387;gribble;No. 754107;1405277411;indiancandy1;atleast the goverment gave the gypsies all there gold back aye 754108;1405277426;*;asciilifeform saw the world's officially largest crystal ball a few days ago 754109;1405277441;asciilifeform;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_ball#mediaviewer/File:Quartz_crystal.jpg 754110;1405277442;assbot;Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 754111;1405277485;indiancandy1;os your in dc 754112;1405277487;indiancandy1;so* 754113;1405277501;indiancandy1;i kind of look like a romani gypsy 754114;1405277513;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: 10km or so 754115;1405277525;indiancandy1;mp do u think i do 754116;1405277539;mircea_popescu;kinda 754117;1405277593;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aklhk/i_just_found_this_crazy_game_of_life_battle_with/ o look, making friends 754118;1405277593;assbot;I just found this crazy game of life battle with Bitcoin : Bitcoin 754119;1405277594;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754120;1405277625;indiancandy1;people sometimes think i am 754121;1405277640;indiancandy1;is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible 754122;1405277651;asciilifeform;indiancandy1: maps.google.com 754123;1405277659;indiancandy1;or macedonia 754124;1405277738;indiancandy1;help !! my webcam is pixelated 754125;1405277744;indiancandy1;on mfc do i fix this 754126;1405277796;punkman;you need to get a flux capacitor 754127;1405277942;indiancandy1;any idea where i get this 754128;1405277959;indiancandy1;;;flux capacitor 754129;1405277960;gribble;Error: "flux" is not a valid command. 754130;1405277973;indiancandy1;;/ 754131;1405277983;indiancandy1;;;fluxcapacitor 754132;1405277983;gribble;Error: "fluxcapacitor" is not a valid command. 754133;1405278058;asciilifeform;unrelated: anybody here own a 'Yeeloong' ? 754134;1405278085;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 black sea ctually, but quite close anyway 754135;1405278131;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ? 754136;1405278144;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: afaik it's the all-free-everything one 754137;1405278164;mircea_popescu;i thought the bios was still proprietary, lulziuly undermining the whole thing 754138;1405278196;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/PMON_2000 754139;1405278197;assbot;PMON 2000 - LinuxMIPS 754140;1405278246;asciilifeform;that box doesn't even need much in the way of a bios. just a little bootloader stub. 754141;1405278259;mircea_popescu;wow score ? 754142;1405278266;indiancandy1;mircea when u goin home 754143;1405278270;indiancandy1;il meet u 754144;1405278287;indiancandy1;cheap flights i can afford romai 754145;1405278290;asciilifeform;the 'loongson' machine are virtually unobtainable in usa. 754146;1405278313;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 might be a decade. 754147;1405278319;indiancandy1;why 754148;1405278322;indiancandy1;where is ur mom 754149;1405278350;mircea_popescu;romania 754150;1405278366;asciilifeform;'pmon' includes built-in gdb stub, apparently. neato. 754151;1405278379;indiancandy1;dont you go visit them 754152;1405278388;indiancandy1;how can you not see your mom for 10years 754153;1405278396;*;asciilifeform might have to break down & pay an importer 754154;1405278396;indiancandy1;btw did argentina win the wc then 754155;1405278444;mircea_popescu;they're playing it now 754156;1405278452;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform interesting. 754157;1405278474;*;asciilifeform wonders where stallman got his 754158;1405278498;indiancandy1;did you get exhiled from romania 754159;1405278529;mircea_popescu;nope 754160;1405278546;mircea_popescu;i was gone for about a decade before. 754161;1405278547;kakobrekla;asciilifeform perhaps online loongson 754162;1405278548;kakobrekla;eh 754163;1405278552;kakobrekla;http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/"Show%20models%201" 754164;1405278552;assbot;Show model Lemote Yeeloong 8101B 10" mini-laptop Pure White-- High-end GNU Linux mini laptop - Tekmote Electronics 754165;1405278559;kakobrekla;300eur 754166;1405278584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 175 @ 0.0168 = 2.94 BTC [+] 754167;1405278588;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: that's the original. there's a nicer one, that has metallic chassis 754168;1405278592;kakobrekla;should have dropped by NL while in RO 754169;1405278601;kakobrekla;aha 754170;1405278604;indiancandy1;did you not see your mom since you was 25 :( 754171;1405278625;mircea_popescu;i only left romania recently. 754172;1405278635;kakobrekla;you mean this ascii: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-008 754173;1405278635;assbot;Loongson 3A Notebook - Tekmote Electronics 754174;1405278670;asciilifeform;aha there it is. 754175;1405278683;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: have one ? 754176;1405278689;kakobrekla;nope 754177;1405278708;kakobrekla;hm, looks like fagbook 754178;1405278727;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: ever see a metallic chassis laptop that didn't ? 754179;1405278770;kakobrekla;dunno 754180;1405278770;kakobrekla;this 754181;1405278771;kakobrekla;http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/CF-19_01.jpg 754182;1405278778;asciilifeform;laptop market, afaik, still reduced to a choice between 'fagbook' and 'turdbook' 754183;1405278810;kakobrekla;as long as i can hammer nails with it. 754184;1405278811;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: that's the u.s. mil spec machine. it's mostly plastic. 754185;1405278818;kakobrekla;really? 754186;1405278819;asciilifeform;and ludicrously heavy 754187;1405278824;kakobrekla;lol 754188;1405278836;asciilifeform;you can get them by the crate, surplus. nobody wants. 754189;1405278867;asciilifeform;at any rate, 'loongson' isn't interesting because of the mechanicals. 754190;1405278870;kakobrekla;this too? http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dell-e6420-XFR_g2_edited-1.jpg 754191;1405278885;kakobrekla;i see some bolts 754192;1405278885;indiancandy1;hmmm 754193;1405278887;kakobrekla;from the topside 754194;1405278892;kakobrekla;should be alu no? 754195;1405278894;asciilifeform;can't say i ever used one of these 754196;1405278895;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 754197;1405278902;indiancandy1;thanks ascii 754198;1405278923;kakobrekla;anyway, you CAN indeed make it alu and not look like fagbook 754199;1405278941;kakobrekla;may look like toaster instead 754200;1405278946;kakobrekla;but point achieved. 754201;1405278959;*;asciilifeform wants a 'sovbook' 754202;1405279084;mircea_popescu;lol 754203;1405279106;indiancandy1;so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide 754204;1405279109;indiancandy1;video 754205;1405279118;indiancandy1;freaked me right out 754206;1405279147;fluffypony;come on, Germany! 754207;1405279156;mircea_popescu;60% possession. 754208;1405279242;fluffypony;well there we go 754209;1405279254;fluffypony;some movement 754210;1405279297;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: you back in Argentina? what's the buzz on the street like? 754211;1405279337;mircea_popescu;fluffypony yeah. pretty loud. 754212;1405279348;fluffypony;I can imagine 754213;1405279352;mircea_popescu;you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc. 754214;1405279380;mircea_popescu;whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help) 754215;1405279407;fluffypony;crazy 754216;1405279456;mircea_popescu;they shot some pretty respectable cherry bombs in the few hours runup 754217;1405279467;mircea_popescu;(during which the street was packed with people waiting for the game to start) 754218;1405279493;indiancandy1;sounds wonderful 754219;1405279500;indiancandy1;u should join the festivities 754220;1405279558;mircea_popescu;i'd rather listen to blur in concert. 754221;1405279578;indiancandy1;heroin addicts 754222;1405279580;indiancandy1;lavely 754223;1405279589;indiancandy1;but so yea can you see this video 754224;1405279603;indiancandy1;and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room 754225;1405279612;indiancandy1;my producer is telling me its a spirit orb 754226;1405279621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 202 @ 0.0132 = 2.6664 BTC [-] {3} 754227;1405279664;indiancandy1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd8Wm7AOI3U 754228;1405279664;assbot;YouTube 754229;1405279773;mircea_popescu;o wow. 754230;1405279775;mircea_popescu;score eh ? 754231;1405279787;mircea_popescu;wait. 754232;1405279800;mircea_popescu;these people blew their fucking top off because a german got a yellow card ? 754233;1405279804;mircea_popescu;im fucking scared now. 754234;1405279814;fluffypony;lol 754235;1405279834;fluffypony;tense moment 754236;1405279939;indiancandy1;did u see the orb 754237;1405279949;fluffypony;indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no 754238;1405279986;mircea_popescu;fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ? 754239;1405279990;mircea_popescu;this is like the 3rd time. 754240;1405280010;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: no not yet - I pay it and its reflected immediately every time I use it 754241;1405280018;fluffypony;same with Bitpay on Namecheap 754242;1405280046;fluffypony;I wonder if it's not trying to update via some ajax call and you've disabled js so it doesn't update? 754243;1405280049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.02890175 = 1.2139 BTC [-] 754244;1405280106;mircea_popescu;possible i guess 754245;1405280109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 67 @ 0.01607462 = 1.077 BTC [+] {4} 754246;1405280110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-] 754247;1405280117;mircea_popescu;kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug 754248;1405280132;fluffypony;if you refresh the page does it show up as paid? 754249;1405280136;mircea_popescu;(actually, more like i won't bother, it's not worth the occasional 5 bux to me. 754250;1405280143;mircea_popescu;if however it was a systemic problem, then yes) 754251;1405280146;mircea_popescu;mnop 754252;1405280150;fluffypony;waq 754253;1405280213;mircea_popescu;;;ud waq 754254;1405280214;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WAQ | acronym for What A Queer. usually used in texts or photo comments. David sure does like to kneel in weird positions... WAQ!!! by squash89 April 25, 2011. 19 6. 754255;1405280226;fluffypony;hah hah 754256;1405280233;fluffypony;it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack 754257;1405280235;fluffypony;;;ud wack 754258;1405280236;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wack | Example 1: Tracy: I'm all that and a bag of chips!..and then some! Rob: Shut yo wack ass up!.. and gets off my Grill. Example 2: Tracy: What did u do last night? 754259;1405280335;mircea_popescu;fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx. 754260;1405280346;mircea_popescu;you ever did that ? owe for say a dozen jobs, pay out in 1 tx ? 754261;1405280360;fluffypony;no I haven't - only ever done 1 at a time 754262;1405280373;mircea_popescu;hm. 754263;1405280396;mircea_popescu;well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then. 754264;1405280403;fluffypony;omfg so close 754265;1405280407;mircea_popescu;specifically, n-1 pages update and ty for the payment. but the nth... nope 754266;1405280679;fluffypony;the Germans are all over the Argentinian goal 754267;1405280820;mircea_popescu;yeah doesn't look so good for em 754268;1405281117;cazalla;mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime 754269;1405281174;mircea_popescu;"Jeff Garzik @jgarzik 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it." 754270;1405281184;mircea_popescu;lol someone's reading b-a logs from last year ? 754271;1405281191;mircea_popescu;cazalla a ok then :p 754272;1405281250;kakobrekla;wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga. 754273;1405281345;mircea_popescu;fluffypony this thing's going to penalty. 754274;1405281399;kakobrekla;anyway it doesnt work. they dont roi even if you run them 24/7 and heaters you dont. 754275;1405281457;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yeah I think so too 754276;1405281463;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla it'll work when the tech is stable. 754277;1405281483;kakobrekla;stable over 10 years ? 754278;1405281486;kakobrekla;right. 754279;1405281494;mircea_popescu;yeah. 754280;1405281503;mircea_popescu;it'll happen, in spite of all the derpage re qc. 754281;1405281506;kakobrekla;in year 25 000 000 754282;1405281506;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 754283;1405281512;gribble;Time since last block: 2 minutes and 54 seconds 754284;1405281517;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla coupla decades. 754285;1405281523;fluffypony;wow bets365 add on Sky Sport gives you live betting odds (well 30 seconds old) 754286;1405281527;fluffypony;*ad 754287;1405281556;kakobrekla;the biggest problem with that idea is that we prolly wont be computing on silicone then 754288;1405281582;kakobrekla;you can hardly heat up anything with wetware for example 754289;1405281586;mircea_popescu;i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it. 754290;1405281596;mircea_popescu;and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work. 754291;1405281605;mircea_popescu;there won't be any qc computing. ever. 754292;1405281649;mircea_popescu;and so in 2050ish, it'll make prefect sense to put in a water heater cum btc miner. 754293;1405281661;mircea_popescu;principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available 754294;1405281662;punkman;qc would make for a good longbet 754295;1405281680;mircea_popescu;punkman my qc longbet is btc itself. 754296;1405281680;cazalla;mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P 754297;1405281732;kakobrekla;ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that. 754298;1405281742;mircea_popescu;yup 754299;1405281751;mircea_popescu;all heating is temporary anyway. 754300;1405281830;kakobrekla;id still bet this wont happen on a mass scale. 754301;1405281846;kakobrekla;window too small. 754302;1405281862;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla what do you think you'll heat yourself with in 2050 ? dead jews ? 754303;1405281874;mircea_popescu;very small rocks ? 754304;1405281883;mircea_popescu;memories of the great patriotic war ? 754305;1405281897;kakobrekla;prolly depends on the btc price. 754306;1405281899;mircea_popescu;humanity has no future outside of electricity anyway. 754307;1405281991;kakobrekla;ideally id have something like personal Toshiba 4S 754308;1405282173;mircea_popescu;small nuclear reactors aren't really worth it. 754309;1405282189;mircea_popescu;just build 100ish gw and be done with it 754310;1405282271;kakobrekla;but then the neighbors notice. 754311;1405282308;mircea_popescu;what neighbours 754312;1405282316;kakobrekla;:) 754313;1405283076;fluffypony;another yellow card, wtf 754314;1405283449;mircea_popescu;yellow card all the people! 754315;1405283778;mircea_popescu;did germany score ? 754316;1405283800;mircea_popescu;hm. no. street ppl just got pissed off. 754317;1405284013;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01385 = 0.554 BTC [+] 754318;1405286587;mircea_popescu;http://news.yahoo.com/putin-eyes-argentine-energy-third-stop-latam-tour-175220992.html;_ylt=AwrBEiLGTcJTIl8AKwvQtDMD 754319;1405286589;assbot;Putin, Kirchner seek 'multipolarity' in Argentina visit - Yahoo News 754320;1405286589;mircea_popescu;lol 754321;1405286708;fluffypony;FINALLY! 754322;1405286710;fluffypony;holy fuck 754323;1405287064;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18529443 = 0.9265 BTC [-] 754324;1405287572;cazalla;and that's that 754325;1405287678;mircea_popescu;germans you know ? 754326;1405287685;mircea_popescu;tired them the fuck out, so they could get that shot at the end 754327;1405287847;cazalla;riots begun? 754328;1405287885;mircea_popescu;they actually seem kinda peacible 754329;1405287896;mircea_popescu;i think they didn't really think they'll make it to the finals anyway 754330;1405287915;kakobrekla;nazis extradited yet? 754331;1405288079;mircea_popescu;lol 754332;1405288716;mircea_popescu;!up Belsage 754333;1405288852;punkman;consolation prize: "at least we weren't humiliated like those Brazilians" 754334;1405288902;mircea_popescu;apparently messi gets golden ball ? 754335;1405289658;mircea_popescu;;;seen moiety 754336;1405289659;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out 754337;1405290566;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/y202CiZ.jpg 754338;1405290627;cazalla;what a shitlord 754339;1405290664;mircea_popescu;odds of it being meta... 9:2 ? 754340;1405290725;cazalla;50% of 4chan is JIDF and the other half are people trolling each other 754341;1405290769;mthreat;the german player's name was götse. i can't beleive we are't seeing goatse memes 754342;1405290796;mircea_popescu;!up qazwsxedcrfv 754343;1405290799;mircea_popescu;;;ud jdif 754344;1405290799;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o... 754345;1405290803;mircea_popescu;;;ud jidf 754346;1405290804;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o... 754347;1405290825;mircea_popescu;o i see, they're oppressing jewish dyslexuals. 754348;1405291012;mircea_popescu;mthreat http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556424659 754349;1405291012;assbot;/b/ - Random 754350;1405291063;cazalla;/pol/ > /b/ 754351;1405291490;qazwsxedcrfv;so, where can I short LTC? 754352;1405291558;cazalla;wow, i thought you were trolling that messi won golden ball 754353;1405291630;mircea_popescu;cazalla ikr ? 754354;1405291659;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust qazwsxedcrfv 754355;1405291659;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user qazwsxedcrfv: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=qazwsxedcrfv | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=qazwsxedcrfv | Rated since: never 754356;1405291662;mircea_popescu;you don't. 754357;1405291748;jurov; ... they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.<< was it coindesk? they were target of phishing and it looked exactly like this. 754358;1405291940;artifexd;BIDF! 754359;1405291954;mircea_popescu;http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556417895#q556417895 754360;1405291955;assbot;/b/ - Random 754361;1405292431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-] 754362;1405292656;mircea_popescu;http://i.4cdn.org/b/1405290535657.png ahaha this is too fucking lulzy. 754363;1405292767;cazalla;pol already attacked tumblr the other week, many were triggered, a few suicides too 754364;1405292823;mircea_popescu;i can't remember what /pol/ is 754365;1405292864;cazalla;politics 754366;1405292879;cazalla;really more trolling white knights and marxists 754367;1405292893;mircea_popescu;a 754368;1405292925;cazalla;odd jew as well 754369;1405292932;cazalla;http://ohpi.org.au/4chans-pol-and-the-trouble-with-dean/ there is an aussie jew who takes the bait 754370;1405292935;assbot;Online Hate Prevention Institute » 4Chan’s /pol/ and the Trouble with Dean 754371;1405293009;cazalla;i have trolls remorse for poor ben garrison 754372;1405293043;mircea_popescu;"Online Hate Prevention Institute " ?! 754373;1405293096;mircea_popescu;what the fuck, this should be on kickstarter. 754374;1405293218;mircea_popescu;wait, the humourless fuck that made a cartoon in which some guy holding a guy fawkes mask is told by the mask, prophetically!11 "you are not as anon as you tihnk" complains that he doesn't understand why people deface his crap ?! 754375;1405293236;mircea_popescu;i saw that thing and my first thought was to deface it. because it's so fucking square, that's why. 754376;1405293243;cazalla;already been done 754377;1405293256;mircea_popescu;same thing that makes you want to punch a mongoloid kid makes you want to deface this guy's cartoon 754378;1405293263;mircea_popescu;and for the same fucking reason, i would imagine. 754379;1405293300;cazalla;https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1400/82/1400820980987.png 754380;1405293300;assbot;Human verification - 4plebs archive 754381;1405293343;cazalla;there's a few hilarious versions around, the shit they did to ben garrison is probably the lulziest shit i've ever seen online 754382;1405293381;mircea_popescu;lol 754383;1405293385;cazalla;poor bastard actually has a disclaimer on his website that no, he isn't the author of the anti semetic versions 754384;1405293458;mircea_popescu;which are actually better than his own work, 754385;1405293461;mircea_popescu;and made him famous 754386;1405293468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02890175 = 2.8902 BTC [-] 754387;1405293470;cazalla;pretty much 754388;1405293531;mircea_popescu;ahaha this article... 754389;1405295055;mircea_popescu;"Those like Dean need to be held accountable and 4chan and /pol/ in particular, need to look after their own shop. An online space with a little more freedom is a good thing, but its up to the community itself to warn people like Dean off when they go too far. " 754390;1405295071;mircea_popescu;epic. "a little freedom" ? "too far" ? 754391;1405295072;mircea_popescu;lolk. 754392;1405295435;danielpbarron;just got banned from #bitcoin http://danielpbarron.com/lol.txt 754393;1405295475;mircea_popescu;nice domain. 754394;1405295544;mircea_popescu;!up hanbot 754395;1405295563;hanbot;why ty 754396;1405295752;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/ojqQQe9.png << someone should ipo the ice sun. 754397;1405295945;mircea_popescu;;;ud mfw 754398;1405295946;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mfw | >mfw gerrard scored a goal against the us after 4 minutes. by unowiel June 12, ... MFW utilize reaction images and are almost always green text. ANON: What do ... 754399;1405296009;danielpbarron;heh, my new -1 for gmaxwell caused him to lose the ability to !up himself http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=assbot&dest=gmaxwell 754400;1405296009;assbot;#bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph 754401;1405296030;mircea_popescu;;;seen gmaxwell 754402;1405296030;gribble;gmaxwell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: thestringpuller: because he's nice for ten minute spans of time, and evades the bans and not everone knows about this BS. 754403;1405296053;mircea_popescu;well fwtw. 754404;1405296274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.002728 = 0.5183 BTC [+] 754405;1405296283;benkay;!s evades the bans 754406;1405296284;assbot;1 results for 'evades the bans' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=evades+the+bans 754407;1405296325;benkay;looks like a hole in the logs. 754408;1405296369;benkay;log's date formats are by month 754409;1405296376;benkay;gribble returns seen by years and weeks 754410;1405296378;mircea_popescu;well yes, 2years ago. proly mthreat didn't get around to parsing the old stuff he got 754411;1405296398;benkay;*shrug* who even knows 754412;1405296425;benkay;the impedance mismatch between gribbles dates and the log dateformat makes for friction. 754413;1405296474;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/gu40OjO.png 754414;1405296483;mircea_popescu;who the fuck does this. fuck first, then put condom on ?! 754415;1405296694;benkay;http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1343323/WTF 754416;1405296694;assbot;WTF 4chan 754417;1405296706;dub;not everyone choses to live where everyone has aids 754418;1405296743;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ya I was waiting for one guy who may have the logs from 2 years ago with no holes. I think his nickname begins with "A" but I can't remember it 754419;1405296778;mircea_popescu;http://www.dailydot.com/geek/dash-con-controversy-tumblr/ 754420;1405296778;assbot;Over the course of a weekend, DashCon 2014 descended into chaos 754421;1405296782;mircea_popescu;megascam apparently. 754422;1405296801;mircea_popescu;a guy from 2 years ago ?! 754423;1405296880;mircea_popescu;http://imgur.com/gallery/hqWD9 scam related. 754424;1405296881;assbot;Anon discusses Dashcon. - Imgur 754425;1405296893;mthreat;mircea_popescu: maybe it was Azelphur 754426;1405296898;mircea_popescu;apparently bitcoin is not exceptional wrt bagholders and their behaviour 754427;1405296904;mircea_popescu;mthreat a that could be lessee. 754428;1405296909;mircea_popescu;Azelphur yo! logs ? 754429;1405296989;Azelphur;who what where? 754430;1405297001;Azelphur;also got takeaway arriving in a second, so might disappear :) 754431;1405297026;mthreat;Azelphur: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014#728423 754432;1405297026;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 754433;1405297028;mircea_popescu;chan logs from 2012, you were gonna give to mthreat 754434;1405297046;mthreat;Azelphur: if you have logs, I'd love them, to backfill search.b-a :) 754435;1405297181;Azelphur;mthreat: Uploading, will be available at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/misc/2014/Jul/bitcoin-assets.zip once the upload is complete. 754436;1405297182;assbot;Not Found 754437;1405297196;Azelphur;oh, it already completed, that was fast. 754438;1405297211;Azelphur;sometimes I forget the wonders of my fancy new fibre connection. 754439;1405297237;mircea_popescu;cool danke! 754440;1405297274;mthreat;Azelphur: downloading, thanks! 754441;1405297327;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: you were right about my business endeavours btw :) 754442;1405297334;*;Azelphur goes back to thinking about how to not suck at making money 754443;1405297339;mircea_popescu;lol 754444;1405297344;mircea_popescu;hey, i actually got something for you. 754445;1405297350;Azelphur;things! \o/ 754446;1405297356;Azelphur;go on? :) 754447;1405297360;mircea_popescu;how about you implement that bitcoin register thing ? 754448;1405297367;Azelphur;bitcoin register thing? 754449;1405297372;mircea_popescu;ok lemme find it 754450;1405297380;mircea_popescu;!s name in the spec 754451;1405297380;assbot;1 results for 'name in the spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=name+in+the+spec 754452;1405297402;mircea_popescu;Azelphur http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718931 754453;1405297403;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 754454;1405297442;Azelphur;what's b-a? 754455;1405297449;Azelphur;bitcoin assets? 754456;1405297457;mircea_popescu;yea 754457;1405297480;Azelphur;brb, pizza is here 754458;1405297776;kakobrekla; mircea_popescu: you were right about my business endeavours btw :) < ah, the powers of ba. 754459;1405297792;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you know how many times a day i get that ? 754460;1405297802;kakobrekla;which part 754461;1405297806;mircea_popescu;"o and btw, you were right about x business idea/venture/partner/whatever" 754462;1405297814;kakobrekla;mhm 754463;1405297821;mircea_popescu;it's kinda why i stick around here, megaegoboost 754464;1405297835;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: well, to be fair you were only partially right, you said he was gonna screw me over and he didn't :P 754465;1405297843;Azelphur;he did however take one too many drugs and end up dead :< 754466;1405297852;mircea_popescu;o.O 754467;1405297862;mircea_popescu;yeah i guess i was.... partially right. 754468;1405297870;*;mircea_popescu backs away slowly 754469;1405297881;Azelphur;xD 754470;1405297900;Azelphur;anyway shall munch my pizza then read through the log :) 754471;1405297905;mircea_popescu;enjoe. 754472;1405297935;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla btw, do you know what's the SECOND most common thing i get ? 754473;1405297991;kakobrekla;do tell 754474;1405298034;mircea_popescu;i guess ima mail you too. 754475;1405298152;mircea_popescu;check customer support. 754476;1405298196;kakobrekla;:) 754477;1405298279;mircea_popescu;she's coming to visit. alas... you won't be here. because somalia. 754478;1405298411;kakobrekla;her loss! 754479;1405298499;mircea_popescu;she's loose not lossy. 754480;1405298715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.002721 = 0.5442 BTC [-] 754481;1405298869;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: seems like a fun idea, although it doesn't really solve my "not sucking at making money" problem :P 754482;1405298899;mircea_popescu;usure ? 754483;1405298917;nubbins`;not sucking at making money is a problem? 754484;1405298939;Azelphur;nubbins`: no, but sucking at making money is ;) 754485;1405298944;kakobrekla;step 1: admitting you have a problem 754486;1405298948;mircea_popescu;sucking makes money. 754487;1405298961;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I dunno, I guess the monthly sub thing could work towards making some money, also what's assbots l2? 754488;1405298966;mircea_popescu;Azelphur but seriously, it has a fee attached. that makes money. 754489;1405298969;kakobrekla;step 2: ba logs. 754490;1405298970;mircea_popescu;or do you want to make a lot of money fast ? 754491;1405298983;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot azelphur 754492;1405298984;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user azelphur: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=azelphur | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=azelphur | Rated since: Mon Apr 9 00:11:58 2012 754493;1405298988;mircea_popescu;Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. 754494;1405298992;Azelphur;oh right, level 2 connections 754495;1405298997;mircea_popescu;ayup 754496;1405299004;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: who doesn't want to make a lot of money fast 754497;1405299005;Azelphur;;) 754498;1405299006;benkay; anyone interested in starting a new altcoin based on the concept of strong artificial intelligence? I run an AI project. please /join #syntheticsky if interested 754499;1405299006;benkay; or email me at synthetic.sky@gmx.de 754500;1405299006;benkay; as as I can't stay online 754501;1405299011;mircea_popescu;i think if you ask nicely kako may share the code of how he tests it 754502;1405299025;mircea_popescu;benkay lets jkoin then 754503;1405299031;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: tests what? 754504;1405299036;benkay;(crayballs altcoiners) 754505;1405299043;mircea_popescu;Azelphur the l2ness 754506;1405299048;Azelphur;oh, that's easy to test 754507;1405299092;mircea_popescu;kk 754508;1405299103;mircea_popescu;reusing code has the advantage that bugs may be found 754509;1405299108;mircea_popescu;especially valuable if kako wrote it 754510;1405299122;benkay;testing in production...twice! 754511;1405299128;*;Azelphur shrugs 754512;1405299132;Azelphur;depends what language its in 754513;1405299142;mircea_popescu;php 754514;1405299149;Azelphur;yea...pass 754515;1405299151;Azelphur;xD 754516;1405299156;mircea_popescu;php on bungee rope 754517;1405299162;mircea_popescu;the competitor to ruby on rails. 754518;1405299201;benkay;probably going to win by virtue of inertia 754519;1405299206;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: been doing this kinda thing since before my balls had dropped, I'm sure I can manage ;) 754520;1405299222;kakobrekla;my php made more btc than your python or whatever. 754521;1405299226;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ever linked you to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVtapIMHTXs ? 754522;1405299226;assbot;Viata de care noi nu stim - YouTube 754523;1405299234;Azelphur;kakobrekla: doubt it :P 754524;1405299238;kakobrekla;i dont. 754525;1405299254;benkay;kinda not a language-level thing, the profitability of an operation. 754526;1405299262;Azelphur;^ 754527;1405299269;mircea_popescu;lies. 754528;1405299288;benkay;orly? story time? 754529;1405299310;mircea_popescu;no lol 754530;1405299335;kakobrekla;thats the point 754531;1405299348;kakobrekla;it what comes out of it. 754532;1405299350;kakobrekla;its* 754533;1405299401;dub;http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10514163_10153083113518569_5085828363159786149_o.jpg 754534;1405299409;dub;so much downs in that lineup 754535;1405299467;Azelphur;haha 754536;1405299467;mircea_popescu;are you an internet troll making blind unidimensional blackness, dub ? 754537;1405299511;mircea_popescu;mike_c https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/activity/#bomb_payments << all three big bombs life ? srsly ? 754538;1405299511;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 754539;1405299511;mircea_popescu;SCAM! 754540;1405299586;mike_c;the blockchain is scamming, not me. 754541;1405299596;mike_c;blame the miners 754542;1405299596;mircea_popescu;btw, seen hanbot's rehash idea ? 754543;1405299606;mike_c;no 754544;1405299663;mircea_popescu;hm grible eats last tells 754545;1405299668;mircea_popescu;!s rehash 754546;1405299669;assbot;39 results for 'rehash' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rehash 754547;1405299688;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2014#753871 754548;1405299689;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 754549;1405300048;mircea_popescu;"- Tumblr user kirbeh described hotel mints being given away at a panel as competition prizes." 754550;1405300060;mircea_popescu;no srsly, the neobees of this world gotta learn from this dashcom thing 754551;1405300075;mircea_popescu;i mean this is even cheaper than the bitcoin foundation prizepool. 754552;1405300150;mircea_popescu;"- None of the main convention organizers appear to have a background in fan conventions or similar events. DashCon owners Megan Eli and Roxanne Schwieterman are a novelist with 15 years of business experience and a 20-year-old with a degree in hospitality management, respectively." 754553;1405300412;mike_c;well, more like why even bother worry about it. the odds of that happenning are zero. 754554;1405300460;mircea_popescu;it ? 754555;1405300474;mike_c;rehash on edge case 754556;1405300505;mircea_popescu;a. because the sort of people who want to play this are ocd types 754557;1405300515;mircea_popescu;and you don't want to put that sort of copy in front of ocd types. 754558;1405300530;mircea_popescu;it grates. 754559;1405300564;mike_c;;;calc 0.04633 ** 20 754560;1405300564;gribble;0 754561;1405300571;mike_c;indeed gribble 754562;1405300597;mircea_popescu;lol 754563;1405300646;mike_c;2.07 x 10 ^ -27 754564;1405300672;mike_c;srsly, the world will be invaded by aliens a billion times over before that happens 754565;1405300710;mike_c;and i do handle it, not like the game blows up 754566;1405300809;mircea_popescu;aite, i guess it can be a point of argument then. gotta give users something to complain about 754567;1405300814;mircea_popescu;which reminds me, chatbox ? 754568;1405300848;mike_c;i could drop in an iframe with freenode web chat :) 754569;1405300888;mike_c;i've thought of a couple different chat mechanisms. JD's chat box always seemed like a negative to me 754570;1405300901;mike_c;did you ever spend any time in there? 754571;1405300910;mircea_popescu;originally. 754572;1405300916;mircea_popescu;but a freenode drop seems ideal to me. 754573;1405301014;mike_c;;;later tell punkman yes.. something in that area is needed. 754574;1405301014;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754575;1405301080;mike_c;it's hard to have a "your bets" thing, because it's all on the blockchain. but i could let you mark arbitrary bets as yours and then track those. 754576;1405301155;kakobrekla;;;g kiwi irc 754577;1405301155;gribble;Error: "g" is not a valid command. 754578;1405301159;kakobrekla;;;google kiwi irc 754579;1405301160;gribble;KiwiIRC - The webIRC client: ; Kiwi IRC | Embedding: ; prawnsalad/KiwiIRC · GitHub: 754580;1405301175;kakobrekla;that one is also not bad 754581;1405301263;mike_c;that will do nicely 754582;1405301267;mike_c;thx 754583;1405301343;mircea_popescu;http://fanlore.org/wiki/When_a_Fan_Hits_the_Shit 754584;1405301344;assbot;When a Fan Hits the Shit - Fanlore 754585;1405301396;mircea_popescu;there is SO MUCH idiocy on the internet i had happily ignored 754586;1405301401;mircea_popescu;and it all fucking moved into btc. 754587;1405301410;mircea_popescu;and then i sit here and wonder wtf do all these idiots come from. 754588;1405301426;mircea_popescu;why, lj. tumblr. the con scene. this that and the fucking other. 754589;1405301693;dub;meh, think my phone is proper dead 754590;1405302172;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: have you seen house of cards? 754591;1405302943;Duffer1;i'm being attacked 754592;1405302947;Duffer1;this guy's got balls 754593;1405303261;benkay;Duffer1: ? 754594;1405303386;Duffer1;they somehow got my unique email pw 754595;1405303410;Duffer1;used it to reset my coinbase password 754596;1405303431;Duffer1;then tried to call my cell phone company to set up call forwarding 754597;1405303467;Duffer1;my unique random generated 25 alpha/num email pw, how does someone get that? 754598;1405303531;Duffer1;how were they able to change coinbase pw when i have 2fa enabled 754599;1405303532;Duffer1;wtf 754600;1405303539;mthreat;keylogger? 754601;1405303566;mthreat;2fa lasts 30 seconds; if someone were watching live, they could use it as you type it. <-- ultra paranoid 754602;1405303606;benkay;holy heck 754603;1405303650;Duffer1;i've got my bank account on lockdown, regained control of my compromised email for now 754604;1405303659;Duffer1;i need to figure how they got it so they don't regain control 754605;1405303766;mthreat;I want to put this as the background of a good song remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYrYCE4i1c&feature=share 754606;1405303766;assbot;(Audiobook) The Original Bitcoin White Paper by Satoshi Nakamoto - YouTube 754607;1405303815;danielpbarron;22:09:41 CTCP VERSION reply from Duffer1: HexChat 2.9.6 [x64] / Windows 7 [2.81GHz] << there's your problem 754608;1405303858;Duffer1;windoes or hexchat? 754609;1405303882;danielpbarron;did the bold not show up? (windows) 754610;1405303973;Duffer1;the name highlight may have overridden the bold 754611;1405304183;Duffer1;seriously though, just windows? 754612;1405304231;Duffer1;how did they know my phone service provider 754613;1405304281;mthreat;if they hav your email, they can find it out? 754614;1405304290;mthreat;if you receive email from provider 754615;1405304307;Duffer1;it's not associated, the service is even in my moms name 754616;1405304338;Duffer1;which is why they weren't successful in setting up call forwarding 754617;1405304631;danielpbarron;idk man, I don't trust ubuntu; I can't even imagine trying to feign security on a windows machine 754618;1405304741;mike_c;Duffer1: if you are concerned the machine is compromised you should pull the network cable and never plug it back in. 754619;1405304783;Duffer1;that's the thing, i have no idea what was compromised 754620;1405304859;danielpbarron;well you have some idea: your email was compromised apparently 754621;1405304883;Duffer1;email and coinbase and almost cell phone carrier 754622;1405304897;mike_c;mircea_popescu:dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ? << sometimes there is: https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ 754623;1405304897;assbot;Game 11 - Death 9097 Life 903 Year 1000 - War of Life 754624;1405304897;benkay;what's the commonality? 754625;1405304904;benkay;computer. 754626;1405305067;Duffer1;should i get a new HD or am I ok with just a new OS? 754627;1405305076;danielpbarron;lol 754628;1405305081;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: Hard dives are cheap 754629;1405305106;Duffer1;no i know, i've just never been compromised like this before, they didn't get anything, but still that's scary as fuck 754630;1405305241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 285 @ 0.002729 = 0.7778 BTC [+] {2} 754631;1405305382;cazalla;anyone else have access to your machine? 754632;1405305397;kakobrekla;đđđđđđ 754633;1405305401;kakobrekla;ops. 754634;1405305412;kakobrekla;gotta change the password now! 754635;1405305437;Duffer1;nah just me and i'm here 24/7, also I run keyscrambler 754636;1405305468;Duffer1;i suspect they called comcast and got some tier one wanker to reset pw 754637;1405305508;Duffer1;i can't figure out how they got coinbase though unless coinbase itself is compromised 754638;1405305886;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.38923557 BTC. Current weight: 94,456. 754639;1405305945;benkay;;;ticker 754640;1405305947;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 627.71, Best ask: 629.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.27000, Last trade: 630.0, 24 hour volume: 3803.10216359, 24 hour low: 626.09, 24 hour high: 638.73, 24 hour vwap: 632.752522547 754641;1405306159;cazalla;danielpbarron: why don't you trust ubuntu? (that's what I use) 754642;1405306248;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Because the history of White Africans is one steeped in failure probably 754643;1405306574;cazalla;BingoBoingo: what's a better alternative for a novice? 754644;1405306619;BingoBoingo;Maybe Linux mint debian edition. Alternately Scientific Linux. 754645;1405306733;cazalla;i should probably put in the effort to learn a little more eh 754646;1405306759;artifexd;;;ident Duffer1 754647;1405306759;gribble;Nick 'Duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~Duffer1@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is identified as user 'Duffer1', with GPG key id D5B0A00741A54A60, key fingerprint 68D283ADB0688306D98C5BE0D5B0A00741A54A60, and bitcoin address 1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG 754648;1405306793;artifexd;Duffer1: Are your gpg key and bitcoin wallet secure? How do we know that you are really you? 754649;1405306925;danielpbarron;cazalla, it's too popular; it's focus is on spready adoption rather than security 754650;1405306987;danielpbarron;I use it too; that's why I singled it out of all the other *nix variants 754651;1405307523;mircea_popescu;mike_c rare tho 754652;1405307651;BingoBoingo;cazalla: For pure ease of use some Debian derivative will prolly cause you the least headaches 754653;1405307733;Duffer1;artifexd afaik my gpg key wasn't compromised, but i have know way to confirm, my bitcoins are safe, i don't have anything online or on my comp 754654;1405307801;artifexd;Still, it might be a good idea to put sweeping all your wallets and changing your gribble keys on your cleanup todo list. 754655;1405307823;Duffer1;fuck you're right 754656;1405307900;artifexd;Sweeping to a paper wallet is first on my "what to do when shit is suspicious" list. 754657;1405307930;Duffer1;i'm already on paper, but i'll probably have to change gpg info 754658;1405307957;danielpbarron;with what machine was the paper created? 754659;1405307978;Duffer1;offline laptop, i bought it for that purpoes 754660;1405307979;artifexd;You also have a bitcoin address registered with gribble. 754661;1405307982;Duffer1;purpose 754662;1405307988;danielpbarron;nice 754663;1405308008;Duffer1;ya i take my shit seriously, which is why i'm surprised they got as far as they did 754664;1405308037;artifexd;I made my paper wallet with an abacus in a steel shielded room. 754665;1405308040;artifexd;With the lights off. 754666;1405308045;Duffer1;hehe 754667;1405308068;artifexd;I hope I didn't miss a bead. 754668;1405308077;BingoBoingo;Well, windows is a limiting factor on how serious you can be 754669;1405308091;Duffer1;indeed 754670;1405308104;danielpbarron;i don't get it then; you have an offline machine for your BTC but you keep your gpg key on the online windows thing? 754671;1405308149;Duffer1;yea 754672;1405308178;danielpbarron;although you don't have that much in your gpg identity yet; 2 ratings 754673;1405308216;Duffer1;yea pretty much convenience vs security on that one 754674;1405308241;artifexd;Someone is also much more likely to try to steal a wallet than a gpg key. 754675;1405308278;danielpbarron;maybe they have to get one to get the other 754676;1405308281;artifexd;gpg key compromise can be recovered from. Once your coins fly, they're gone. 754677;1405308317;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller nope. 754678;1405308322;danielpbarron;lol.. losing your gpg key could very well equal losing your coins.. plus more 754679;1405308324;mircea_popescu; this guy's got balls << who ? 754680;1405308324;Duffer1;danielpbarron they're unrelated for me at least 754681;1405308345;Duffer1;evil people, they don't like leaving me alone :( 754682;1405308367;mircea_popescu; wtf << 2fa is shit. otherwise sounds like you got a keylogger. 754683;1405308404;Duffer1;i use a program that encrypts every keystroke at the driver level 754684;1405308424;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: Why? Dunno what purpose a program like that can serve. 754685;1405308459;Duffer1;to prevent keylogging - even if they had hardware access to my machine they shouldn't be able to log 754686;1405308471;mircea_popescu; i suspect they called comcast and got some tier one wanker to reset pw << now this is also possible. 754687;1405308497;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 think. at some point your machine sees the keys. 754688;1405308537;mthreat;yep. a chrome extension, for example, doesn't care about your hardware 754689;1405308576;Duffer1;you're right 754690;1405308594;Duffer1;atm i'm building a list of everything that needs to change, it's long 754691;1405308597;BingoBoingo;The thing is this Encrypt the keystrokes to beat keyloggers turd smells like pure security theatre and little else 754692;1405308602;mircea_popescu;also what danielpbarron said. ffs, srsly ? make a key on the airgapped laptop and get a qr gun for cryssakes. 754693;1405308632;mircea_popescu;they're like $20 754694;1405308656;Duffer1;no idea how to do that 754695;1405308671;mircea_popescu;you buy the qr gun. you plug it into your windoze machine. 754696;1405308681;mircea_popescu;you decrypt whatever on the laptop, and use the gun to read the screen 754697;1405308721;Duffer1;that's pretty clever lol 754698;1405308734;mircea_popescu;or w/e, you can just take pics with a camera. you got a camera don't you ? 754699;1405308742;mircea_popescu;ocr is free basically. 754700;1405308747;Duffer1;ocr? 754701;1405308753;mircea_popescu;;;ud ocr 754702;1405308754;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OCR | Optical Character Recognition. Used in computing terminology. Actually, is a computer software designed to translate images of typewritten text int... 754703;1405308763;Duffer1;i see 754704;1405308777;mthreat;;;ddg duckduckgo workie? 754705;1405308778;gribble;Error: "ddg" is not a valid command. 754706;1405308783;mthreat;just curious 754707;1405308794;mircea_popescu;you can make !ddg if you want 754708;1405308816;mircea_popescu;tho what'd be really useful would be a translate. 754709;1405308822;mircea_popescu;google fucked up api access to gt 754710;1405308864;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/x__LaBellaVita/status/488503917387325441 < check out all the mike_c fan chicks coming out of the woodwork 754711;1405308921;mthreat;it looks like google translate is a paid service (for API) - https://developers.google.com/translate/v2/pricing 754712;1405308921;assbot;Pricing - Google Translate API — Google Developers 754713;1405308931;mthreat;$20 per 1M characters of tet 754714;1405308934;mthreat;*text 754715;1405308939;mircea_popescu;hm. 754716;1405308947;mthreat;reasonable I guess 754717;1405308948;mircea_popescu;i'll pay the $20 if you want to add it. 754718;1405308991;mthreat;how does one update the ! bot 754719;1405309000;mircea_popescu;!s hm ? 754720;1405309000;assbot;828 results for 'hm ?' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hm+%3F 754721;1405309022;mircea_popescu;o it goes through assbot. i forgot, somehoiw thought you had rolled your own bot 754722;1405309041;BingoBoingo;%d 754723;1405309042;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 542762.62 in 812 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.87 754724;1405309046;BingoBoingo;%t 754725;1405309050;BingoBoingo;%ob 754726;1405309051;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 221 Ask: 278 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 22k High: 224 Low: 221 VWAP: 223 754727;1405309051;atcbot;45k@282 722@279 30k@278 | 84k@221 300k@220 45k@201 754728;1405309059;mircea_popescu;nanotube hey, if i pay the google translate api thing, you bring back gribble translate ? 754729;1405309087;mircea_popescu;!up copumpkin 754730;1405309095;copumpkin;sup 754731;1405309103;mircea_popescu;not much 754732;1405309108;mircea_popescu;you know how to voice yourself ? i forget. 754733;1405309120;copumpkin;haven't been in here since voicing was a thing, so nope :) 754734;1405309129;mircea_popescu;pm assbot !up while authed. 754735;1405309131;copumpkin;is my ISP fucked or is mpex down? 754736;1405309137;mircea_popescu;it's down. 754737;1405309139;copumpkin;ah 754738;1405309149;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/ 754739;1405309151;assbot;MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 754740;1405309180;copumpkin;onoes! 754741;1405309185;mircea_popescu;ya well. 754742;1405309201;mircea_popescu;!up AndrewJackson 754743;1405309237;mike_c;lol. cellular automata gets all the chicks 754744;1405309255;copumpkin;mircea_popescu: well, good luck with that! I'm going to bed, just wanted to check in :) 754745;1405309263;mircea_popescu;laters. 754746;1405309328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 266 @ 0.00272903 = 0.7259 BTC [-] {2} 754747;1405309344;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/sigwinch/status/488490541760671744 754748;1405309418;mircea_popescu;ibressh.org uses the IP number 217.70.184.38 only which also vente-cuisines-contemporaines-salondeprovence.com , en-bord-de-champs.com , gdlindustries.com and 754749;1405309422;mircea_popescu;gld industries eh ? 754750;1405309572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 450 @ 0.00265181 = 1.1933 BTC [-] {7} 754751;1405310975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.00412694 = 0.9492 BTC [+] {5} 754752;1405311052;nubbins`;!up BayAreaCoins 754753;1405311099;BayAreaCoins;thanks, but just reading logs. 754754;1405311189;nubbins`;np 754755;1405311205;BingoBoingo;!up nam-shub 754756;1405311345;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c here's an idea : 1) if the bomb total pool goes over 1 btc, the first five digits past the decimal are used as a bomb location; and 2) if the bomb pool is over 5% of the total shares pool, the bomb is guaranteed to be big. 754757;1405311345;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754758;1405311446;mircea_popescu;;;later tell the idea being that paid bombs will likely be a constant thing, with most games prolly over 90ish paid bombs, and both these will encourage a little bridging (ie, say it's .9 for the pool. now there's incentive for an extra .1). also #1 will give the losing side in the bomb pool tugwar a sneaky way to disrupt the winning bomb (by donating against their actual interest, to make it sum up to a different, per 754759;1405311446;mircea_popescu;haps harmless, location) 754760;1405311447;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754761;1405311462;mircea_popescu;writing fucking novels over here. 754762;1405311503;nubbins`;;;later tell the 754763;1405311676;mircea_popescu;oh. damn. ty. 754764;1405311688;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c the idea being that paid bombs will likely be a constant thing, with most games prolly over 90ish paid bombs, and both these will encourage a little bridging (ie, say it's .9 for the pool. now there's incentive for an extra .1). also #1 will give the losing side in the bomb pool tugwar a sneaky way to disrupt the winning bomb (by donating against their actual interest, to make it sum up to a differe 754765;1405311688;mircea_popescu;nt, perhaps harmless, location) 754766;1405311688;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754767;1405311695;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c different, perhaps harmless, location) 754768;1405311696;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754769;1405313169;BingoBoingo;!up BayAreaCoins 754770;1405313212;BayAreaCoins;Thank you :) 754771;1405313218;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 754772;1405313221;gribble;Current Blocks: 310658 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1821 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 36 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18956358930.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.34479 754773;1405313441;BingoBoingo;!up copumpkin 754774;1405314025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 253 @ 0.00265001 = 0.6705 BTC [-] {3} 754775;1405314147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC [+] {3} 754776;1405314658;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.01 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.89923557 BTC. Current weight: 93,812. 754777;1405314769;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 754778;1405314770;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.43, Best ask: 624.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.57000, Last trade: 624.0, 24 hour volume: 4196.18887227, 24 hour low: 623.43, 24 hour high: 638.73, 24 hour vwap: 632.167131018 754779;1405314782;benkay;aaarrrrrggggh 754780;1405315245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 858 @ 0.00265024 = 2.2739 BTC [-] {5} 754781;1405316739;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVtapIMHTXs << wtf ? 754782;1405316739;assbot;Viata de care noi nu stim - YouTube 754783;1405316844;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform young and imo very promising actor kid 754784;1405317111;asciilifeform;'encrypts every keystroke at the driver level' << what must one smoke, to conceive of this 754785;1405317163;BingoBoingo;meth? 754786;1405317180;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: isn't meth supposed to be 'performance enhancing' dope ? 754787;1405317192;mircea_popescu;nope 754788;1405317199;asciilifeform;but kamikazes. 754789;1405317201;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The dose makes the poison. 754790;1405317201;mircea_popescu;that's amphetamine not metamphetamine 754791;1405317218;mircea_popescu;like you know, a joke's funny but a meta joke's just lame ? same thing. 754792;1405317222;asciilifeform;afaik all the extra methyl gives is fat-solubility 754793;1405317237;mircea_popescu;so it selects for landwhales is what you're telling me ? 754794;1405317240;BingoBoingo;methamphetamine has a greater propensity to promote psychosis at lower doses 754795;1405317263;asciilifeform;fat-solubility >> better penetration of brain-blood barrier 754796;1405317278;asciilifeform;+ longer metabolic half-life 754797;1405317298;mircea_popescu;whatever theoretical chemistry may propose... meth ain't enhancing any performances. 754798;1405317322;mircea_popescu;unless one's performing as a meth head, i guess. 754799;1405317327;*;asciilifeform hasn't tried 754800;1405317389;asciilifeform;;;google panzerschokolade 754801;1405317391;gribble;Obscene Desserts: On "Panzerschokolade" and other fun German ...: ; Twitter / Search - #panzerschokolade: ; panzerschokolade II - Jarmila Mitrikova: 754802;1405317406;BingoBoingo;Well, with methamphetamine levo-dexo rotary becomes a concern as well. l-methamphetamine is a rather safe decongestant. D-methamphetamine though... is the one that makes the news 754803;1405317471;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: from the u.s. army medical journals, a hypothesis - it's actually the sleep deprivation that does you in 754804;1405317503;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It's one of the more interesting ones 754805;1405317520;asciilifeform;(many of the maladies suffered by meth addicts - not only psychosis, but physiological - are also found in people who, for one reason or another - such as being under fire - cannot sleep) 754806;1405317678;BingoBoingo;Interesting testament to different effects of the rotary property check the active ingredient http://www.vicks.com/products/vapo-family/vapoinhaler-nasal-congestion-relief/# 754807;1405317694;asciilifeform;re: 'performance enhancing' dopes - important to remember that, even supposing performance enhanced, it matters who you were. e.g. paul erdos will crap out theorems, a hooligan will be able to break that many more windows, a lunatic will rant longer and more vigorously, etc. 754808;1405317702;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i go for days without sleeping, often enough for not more than not feeling like it. this entire "sleep deprivation is bad for you" thing is bogus imo. 754809;1405317716;asciilifeform;days - who doesn't do this. try month. 754810;1405317727;mircea_popescu;who the hell maintains a month long meth trip ? 754811;1405317730;asciilifeform;immune system craps out 754812;1405317733;asciilifeform;after 3 weeks or so 754813;1405317738;mircea_popescu;myocard'll give out day 10 754814;1405317738;asciilifeform;a rat - dies 754815;1405317742;mircea_popescu;right 754816;1405317761;asciilifeform;a man - lives. but starts to rot, like a stereotypical 'zombie' 754817;1405317823;BingoBoingo;http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=524334&postcount=1 754818;1405317824;assbot;Drugs Forum - View Single Post - Effects - Meth in Vicks Vapour Inhaler? 754819;1405317853;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i thought true aficionados will rotate it first 754820;1405317875;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That is actually a greater challenge than it sounds like. 754821;1405317883;asciilifeform;sure. 754822;1405317883;BingoBoingo;Easier to start from scratch 754823;1405317899;asciilifeform;define 'scratch' 754824;1405317915;BingoBoingo;Precursors that lead to a largely dex- final product 754825;1405317953;asciilifeform;in the americas, those are largely unavailable to 'humans' - mafia, different story, buys by the drum 754826;1405317957;BingoBoingo;(ephedrine, pseudoephedrine tend to do this) 754827;1405317985;BingoBoingo;other precursors tend to produce racemic product 754828;1405317996;asciilifeform;if i recall these were banned ? 754829;1405318033;BingoBoingo;It's a pain in the ass to get them, but still available over the counter 754830;1405318090;asciilifeform;where i live, one can buy pseudoephedrine against running nose, but only in miniscule amounts and after signing a declaration of non-terrorism, with your driver's license entered in db 754831;1405318247;BingoBoingo;Similar situation here. Now meth busts tend to look like this http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Three-arrested-after-liquid-meth-is-found-inside-car-in-Metro-East-266104911.html 754832;1405318247;assbot;Three arrested after liquid meth is found inside car in Metro East | KMOV.com St. Louis 754833;1405318275;Duffer1;;tslb 754834;1405318281;asciilifeform;lol 754835;1405318285;Duffer1;what's the command? 754836;1405318298;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 754837;1405318300;gribble;Time since last block: 54 minutes and 53 seconds 754838;1405318318;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: clearly these folks had no problems sourcing precursors. 754839;1405318340;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Costs too much for junkies to make their own, so it gets shipped from god knows where in the most efficient means possible 754840;1405318372;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: in ussr, meth was 'invented' in the mid '80s. but all the aficionados made their own, without exception. there was no 'market' in the usual sense. 754841;1405318404;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: they would forge prescriptions for ephedrine (used in that period to treat asthmatics) and go from that. 754842;1405318425;BingoBoingo;They used to make their own here, but now for all I know Johnson and Johnson produces it. 754843;1405318445;asciilifeform;the necessary reagents were readily available, because amateur chemistry was not illegal in ussr. 754844;1405318458;asciilifeform;and people actually went to school, and occasionally learned things. 754845;1405318522;asciilifeform;somewhere it is produced. i recently visited a shop that sold surplus safes, of various sizes. some were from pharmacies, and had storage manifests glued on. included meth. 754846;1405318547;BingoBoingo;Well, the trade name is Desoxyn 754847;1405318552;BingoBoingo;;;google desoxyn 754848;1405318552;gribble;Error: We broke The Google! 754849;1405318559;asciilifeform;for what it is prescribed - i've not the faintest idea. 754850;1405318569;asciilifeform;perhaps african sleeping sickness ? 754851;1405318584;BingoBoingo;Typically ADHD in severe cases 754852;1405318636;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform doesn't help that. 754853;1405318639;BingoBoingo;Also for being the size of a whale 754854;1405318767;thestringpuller;Damn the south is so fucking miserable in summer. 754855;1405318775;thestringpuller;fuckin' 80 and humid out there 754856;1405318789;thestringpuller;how da fuck a nigga supposed to sleep in dis shit 754857;1405319075;mircea_popescu;no ac ? 754858;1405319343;mircea_popescu;i don't remember when i hated a film this much last. 754859;1405319350;mircea_popescu;holy shit that was objectionable. 754860;1405319431;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 754861;1405319434;gribble;Time since last block: 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 45 seconds 754862;1405319578;kyuupichan;Miners saying "fuck this; it's too hot in here" 754863;1405319602;mircea_popescu;heh i wonder. 754864;1405319648;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 754865;1405319660;gribble;Current Blocks: 310662 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1817 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 754866;1405319678;mircea_popescu;none ?! 754867;1405319685;kyuupichan;lol 754868;1405319692;kyuupichan;gribble gave up too 754869;1405319695;mircea_popescu;lol 754870;1405319696;BingoBoingo;longblock broke it? 754871;1405319809;BingoBoingo;%t 754872;1405319811;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 278 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 21k High: 224 Low: 221 VWAP: 223 754873;1405319817;BingoBoingo;%ob 754874;1405319818;atcbot;45k@282 722@279 30k@278 | 250k@210 45k@201 117k@200 754875;1405319934;kyuupichan;;;tslb 754876;1405319945;gribble;Time since last block: 6 minutes and 0 seconds 754877;1405319992;mircea_popescu;BITCOIN'S SILVER!!1 754878;1405319996;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 754879;1405319999;gribble;Current Blocks: 310662 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1817 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18207183501.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.02337 754880;1405320036;BingoBoingo;Altcoin, the Silica to Bitcoin's Plutionium 754881;1405320205;mircea_popescu;o look, a block! 754882;1405320471;BingoBoingo;!up shandid 754883;1405320563;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/danika/ 754884;1405321381;BingoBoingo;!t h am1 754885;1405321381;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.18514448 / 0.18867495 / 0.20000000 (13 shares, 2.45277435 BTC), 7D: 0.18100000 / 0.19598774 / 0.20500000 (223 shares, 43.70526543 BTC), 30D: 0.18010000 / 0.20234942 / 0.25983989 (2614 shares, 528.94138071 BTC) 754886;1405323785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8382 BTC [-] 754887;1405325429;fluffypony;http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-hacker-artist-sent-the-nsa-an-encrypted-mixtape-they-cant-crack 754888;1405325429;assbot;A Hacker Artist Sent the NSA an Encrypted, Theoretically Uncrackable Mixtape | Motherboard 754889;1405326238;fluffypony;this shit is hilarious 754890;1405326238;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/maidsafe-ceo-david-irvine-talks-nature-ants-decentralization/ 754891;1405326238;assbot;MaidSafe CEO David Irvine Talks Nature, Ants and Decentralization 754892;1405326311;ThickAsThieves;http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140123.png 754893;1405326411;ThickAsThieves;mpex is still ded? 754894;1405326428;jurov;yes 754895;1405326448;jurov;and the 6th slide is fatally wrong 754896;1405326474;jurov;it should say "and then the revolution eats you" 754897;1405326590;jurov;heh... remembered the 5 stages of planning: 754898;1405326603;jurov;1. Before-project enthusiasm 754899;1405326622;jurov;2. Sobering in the process of realization 754900;1405326635;jurov;3. Searching whom to blame 754901;1405326645;jurov;4. Punishment of the innocent 754902;1405326678;jurov;5. Rewarding of nonparticipants 754903;1405326718;jurov;any worthy revolution follows this, too 754904;1405327174;fluffypony;http://www.savagechickens.com/wp-content/uploads/chickenbaylove.jpg 754905;1405327778;punkman;http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/07/beware-keyloggers-at-hotel-business-centers/ 754906;1405328519;fluffypony;https://medium.com/@TomOnBTC/bitcoin-news-sites-dishonesty-29fee9d6e367 754907;1405328520;assbot;Bitcoin News Sites & Dishonesty Medium 754908;1405328522;fluffypony;Tom is powering 754909;1405329885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 35 @ 0.02890175 = 1.0116 BTC [-] 754910;1405336450;artifexd;;;later tell mircea_popescu In the sentence containing footnote iii of your Danika post, did you mean "existing" instead of "exiting"? 754911;1405336451;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754912;1405336955;punkman;https://twitter.com/MCFoundation/status/488563572469821441 754913;1405336981;punkman;from the lolfoundation dept. 754914;1405338349;jurov;;;seen namworld 754915;1405338349;gribble;namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 7 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: I don't have any relatives buying, so it's always strangers 754916;1405338518;fluffypony;;;seen naphex 754917;1405338518;gribble;naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks 754918;1405338608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 217 @ 0.01271382 = 2.7589 BTC [+] {2} 754919;1405343305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 350 @ 0.00272998 = 0.9555 BTC [+] {3} 754920;1405344403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 45 @ 0.01208893 = 0.544 BTC [-] {4} 754921;1405344525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.01662133 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {9} 754922;1405346657;nanotube;later tell mircea_popescu no need to pay for google translate, there are other free translate api alternatives. if you think there's a significant need for irc-translate, i could throw something together. just didn't figure it was all that useful. 754923;1405346664;nanotube;;;later tell mircea_popescu no need to pay for google translate, there are other free translate api alternatives. if you think there's a significant need for irc-translate, i could throw something together. just didn't figure it was all that useful. 754924;1405346664;gribble;The operation succeeded. 754925;1405346803;rithm;nanotube he stalks the channel logs 754926;1405346812;rithm;you could say "mp is dumb" 754927;1405346822;rithm;and you'll get a response most likely 754928;1405346946;nanotube;heh well, can't hurt to later tell :P 754929;1405347666;thestringpuller;nanotube is the ultimate lurker 754930;1405347671;thestringpuller;gangsta shit 754931;1405347685;jurov;lol 754932;1405347690;jurov;no news from mpex? 754933;1405347706;jurov;slavegirls still digging moats etc? 754934;1405348444;thestringpuller;lol @ jurov 754935;1405348630;ThickAsThieves;mpex was extradited 754936;1405349024;ThickAsThieves;http://www.pfhub.com/france-to-mandate-identity-verification-for-bitcoin-account-holders-934/ 754937;1405349025;assbot;France to mandate identity verification for bitcoin account holders 754938;1405349103;ThickAsThieves;Thomas France, founder of Maison du Bitcoin, told the Wall Street Journal that he supports the new legal framework because it further legitimizes virtual currencies and that cryptocurrency anonymity is just “a myth.” 754939;1405349328;ThickAsThieves;!up KRS-1 754940;1405349400;KRS-1;;;seen vexual 754941;1405349400;gribble;vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: i ordered braised rabbit 754942;1405349854;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves LOL. Extradition from Argentina?!? 754943;1405351251;ThickAsThieves;!up KRS-1 754944;1405351439;mircea_popescu;nanotube well yeah, cause i'm multilingual and other people in here are and we end up running into translation things at least weekly. 754945;1405351439;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfgSEwjAeno 754946;1405351440;assbot;Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Wealth Gap (HBO) - YouTube 754947;1405351509;mircea_popescu;all these people and their weird equalitarian ideas. 754948;1405351535;fluffypony;that segment is brilliant 754949;1405351536;nubbins`;imagine 754950;1405351540;nubbins`;fluffypony could finally go back to speaking xhosa 754951;1405351566;mircea_popescu;somehow i'm the only one vaguely offended by the fact that "humorous" talking head is "explaining to the masses" what "the president said" ? 754952;1405351570;fluffypony;nubbins`: lol 754953;1405351571;mircea_popescu;what is this, leninism ? 754954;1405351593;asciilifeform;;;google start control talking pet 754955;1405351593;gribble;Star Control II - Ultronomicon: ; Walkthrough - Ultronomicon: ; List of Star Control races - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 754956;1405351609;mircea_popescu;fluffypony hmm, i kiled it 10 seconds in. too soon ? 754957;1405351616;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yes definitely 754958;1405351634;fluffypony;he sits in front of an audience of Americans and points out how retarded their leadership is 754959;1405351740;mircea_popescu;right. 754960;1405351756;mircea_popescu;sits in front of an audience of Americans and points out how retarded their leadership is for not being left enough. 754961;1405351821;nubbins`;2:10 "hashtag class warfare" 754962;1405351829;mircea_popescu;someone needs to explain to me sometime why "too much inequality can be very dangerous". seems that TOO MUCH is perfectly fine, a little is fucking dangerous if the idiots now have the means to argue the point, 754963;1405351841;mircea_popescu;and a shitton of it is just toxic, which is where we are now. 754964;1405351868;mircea_popescu;not in any sense dangerous, but just slowly asphyxiating everything to the point the whole society has to be destroyed by a bunchy of barbarians so the five surviving women can start over, 754965;1405351872;mircea_popescu;in between buttrapes. 754966;1405351977;mircea_popescu;artifexd yes ty. 754967;1405352025;nubbins`;nation of haves and will-haves 754968;1405352053;mircea_popescu;moar like might-haves, could-haves, should-haves and will-haves 754969;1405352059;asciilifeform;nubbins`: have-nots and will-nots 754970;1405352085;nubbins`;;;ud willnot 754971;1405352086;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Willnot | A little round ball of shit (and/or bumwad) stuck in the hair of the crack of your ass and WILLNOT come out. 754972;1405352095;asciilifeform;lol 754973;1405352101;mircea_popescu;isn't that a dingleberry ? 754974;1405352105;asciilifeform;yeah same thought 754975;1405352115;*;asciilifeform graduate of alt.tasteless 754976;1405352123;mircea_popescu;o hey. 754977;1405352125;nubbins`;i thought a willnot was when you had a bit of poop that wouldn't come out 754978;1405352144;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i find your proposition that dingleberries are tasteless an exercise in sheer nonsense. 754979;1405352167;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: alt.tasteless was this thing. where the famous 'spittoon' story was posted, etc. it was glorious. 754980;1405352215;mircea_popescu;i was just trying to do a... pun i guess 754981;1405352234;nubbins`;yeah 754982;1405352236;asciilifeform;there were, of course, other places to learn english. 754983;1405352238;nubbins`;dingleberries have the richest taste 754984;1405352279;thestringpuller;the dingleberries taste like snozberries 754985;1405352301;mircea_popescu;which are those 754986;1405352371;rithm;ooooh can we get an !esperanto command 754987;1405352381;rithm;or !lojban 754988;1405352386;asciilifeform;!tokipona 754989;1405352404;rithm;^ 754990;1405352405;mircea_popescu;rithm it'll attract the taakis 754991;1405352408;asciilifeform;(smallest vaguely-usable conlang i've seen.) 754992;1405352411;rithm;3 excellent first choices 754993;1405352456;thestringpuller;http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/the-filthiest-joke-ever-hidden-in-childrens-movie/ << heh 754994;1405352457;assbot;The Filthiest Joke Ever Hidden in a Children's Movie | Cracked.com 754995;1405352556;asciilifeform;http://www.cracked.com/article_17545_9-toys-that-prepare-children-life-menial-labor.html 754996;1405352557;assbot;9 Toys That Prepare Children for a Life of Menial Labor | Cracked.com 754997;1405352560;mircea_popescu;o may fucking gawd. just thefucking terminology... 20% of the ~available income~ ? dude... it's not "the available income". 754998;1405352560;asciilifeform;^ linked from above 754999;1405352569;mircea_popescu;1% of america MADE AVAILABLE 20% of the income in this country. 755000;1405352664;nubbins`;snozzberries article is such a stretch that it may snap 755001;1405352693;rithm;i'll never eat another snozzberry 755002;1405352708;nubbins`;but will you eat any more dicks 755003;1405352712;mircea_popescu;wow nubbins`. i kinda given up on cracked for this exact reason, i just had no idea how to express it before. 755004;1405352730;rithm;wait.... 755005;1405352741;rithm;is cracked one of those sites like the onion 755006;1405352747;nubbins`;it's basically an entire website dedicated to the type of shit in /r/mildlyinteresting 755007;1405352753;rithm;pretend i don't get out on the internet much 755008;1405352778;nubbins`;but with more lists 755009;1405352782;rithm;it's not complete satire, though 755010;1405352789;mircea_popescu;cracked is mostly kids who figure they're not realy waitresses, but really writers, giving it a crack. 755011;1405352795;mircea_popescu;except it's mostly boys. 755012;1405352805;rithm;riiiight but it's mildly factual 755013;1405352812;rithm;or is it a complete farce 755014;1405352815;mircea_popescu;goes about as well as you'd expect the National Waiters' Poetry Club to go. 755015;1405352816;rithm;is my question 755016;1405352818;nubbins`;generally the lists have arbitrary numbers of items in them, because the "people" who "write" them don't have any real information to convey 755017;1405352840;mircea_popescu;nubbins` a crackwitter! all lists 14 items. 755018;1405352849;rithm;sometimes i can't tell anymore between a farce site and a real site 755019;1405352862;mircea_popescu;rithm it' on the internet dood. what factual. 755020;1405352868;nubbins`;so they'll just say oh hey this simpsons episode has a blue hat, i think there were three or four others with blue hats 755021;1405352879;nubbins`;5 simpsons episodes that show you how cool blue hats are 755022;1405352882;rithm;ok 755023;1405352893;nubbins`;share on facebook 755024;1405352904;rithm;i did on my wife page 755025;1405352911;rithm;she loves that retarded movie 755026;1405352919;rithm;i never liked it or watched it as a kid 755027;1405352931;mircea_popescu;i can't fucking believe there actually exists a /r/mildlyinteresting 755028;1405352937;mircea_popescu;i thought it was a joke. 755029;1405352970;nubbins`;nah 755030;1405352981;nubbins`;and it's exactly what it says on the label 755031;1405353309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 248 @ 0.00278991 = 0.6919 BTC [+] {4} 755032;1405353452;mircea_popescu;do the mods ban you if you're violently interesting ? 755033;1405353463;mircea_popescu;"this r is not for you, son" 755034;1405353586;artifexd;Have you seen /r/notinteresting ? 755035;1405353614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79153408 BTC to 12`352 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 755036;1405353664;mircea_popescu;i'm really very underexposed 755037;1405353675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 23.98874968 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2086 satoshi per share 755038;1405353974;mircea_popescu;jurov: and the 6th slide is fatally wrong << it is fatally wrong 755039;1405354255;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform never played that one. 755040;1405354843;danielpbarron;so someone from Bitcoin magazine gave me his business card at porcfest and told me they might publish an article if I write one for them; should I even bother, and what should it be about? 755041;1405354955;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron do you have a job ? 755042;1405354956;kakobrekla;about how bitcoin magazine sucks? 755043;1405354971;mod6;^ and how b-a is where it's really @ 755044;1405354972;danielpbarron;mircea_popescu, not at the moment 755045;1405354980;*;danielpbarron works seasonally 755046;1405354992;mircea_popescu;are you looking for one in the field of trade rags ? 755047;1405355002;danielpbarron;not particularly 755048;1405355017;mircea_popescu;then you probably shouldn't. 755049;1405355029;danielpbarron;I'm guessing that any article worth reading wouldn't get accepted by their staff 755050;1405355031;mircea_popescu;if you have something you want published, either work with someone who already has a blog, and do a guest 755051;1405355033;mircea_popescu;or make your own blog. 755052;1405355055;mircea_popescu;pretty sure by now pankkake's rss reader has more readership than the bitcoin magazine anyway. 755053;1405355076;danielpbarron;yeah, I got they feeling Bitcoin magazine is like all those podcasts out there; they want the listeners to give them free content for them to advertize over 755054;1405355115;mircea_popescu;well yes. 755055;1405355118;danielpbarron;I was talking to the guy about how none of the popular Bitcoin news sources focus on real security 755056;1405355138;danielpbarron;he was one of those "wow 2.0 !! decentralize everything" types 755057;1405355165;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many great new altcoins were thought up at porcupine 755058;1405355213;*;danielpbarron wouldn't know as he avoided most of the actual events 755059;1405355254;danielpbarron;I ran into someone who was already familiar with my MEAT asset on counterparty; that was pretty funny 755060;1405355280;mircea_popescu;what was that ? 755061;1405355321;danielpbarron;it's an asset backed by the in-game currency of http://kingdomofloathing.com/ 755062;1405355323;assbot;The Kingdom of Loathing 755063;1405355365;danielpbarron;the only asset on counterparty with a realistic market cap 755064;1405355399;danielpbarron;unless you think the let's talk Bitcoin network is actually worth 250 BTC 755065;1405355507;mircea_popescu;heh. 755066;1405355536;mircea_popescu;isk and rift plat are backed by bitcoinz, so why not this other thing. 755067;1405355543;mircea_popescu;are you involved with it ? 755068;1405355606;danielpbarron;with what? isk/rift? i don't know what those are 755069;1405355615;mircea_popescu;no with this thing 755070;1405355616;mircea_popescu;A Very Special Message from Jick: 755071;1405355616;mircea_popescu;As the number of KoL players increases, so does the cost of hosting. I very much want to keep the game free, so please consider supporting the development and maintenance of the Kingdom 755072;1405355630;danielpbarron;oh, I used to play it years ago 755073;1405355636;mircea_popescu;ah ic 755074;1405355666;mircea_popescu;http://store.asymmetric.net/ << lol ius that the team ? 755075;1405355668;assbot;The Store of Loathing 755076;1405355709;danielpbarron;it's a pretty annoying community that plays; the only reason I played for as long as I did was because the economy was pretty fun 755077;1405355721;mircea_popescu;ow shit look at this, they're pretty developped actually huh. danielpbarron do you know any of the guys ? like this jick ? 755078;1405355740;danielpbarron;nope 755079;1405355884;mircea_popescu;teh splendor of this chan omg, ask and thou shalt receive. got the guy's email, all happy now. 755080;1405355964;danielpbarron;I don't like Jick but he's obviously very good at what he does; that game is over 11 years old now and he makes a living off of it 755081;1405356055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 736 @ 0.0028 = 2.0608 BTC [+] 755082;1405356082;mircea_popescu;!up RetroUpriser 755083;1405356094;RetroUpriser;gee, thanks 755084;1405356096;mircea_popescu;RetroUpriser nice name. what brings you over ? 755085;1405356124;RetroUpriser;Danielpbarron said he was chatting over here, figured i'd stop by. Its from a website i used to frquent as a kid 755086;1405356171;mircea_popescu;a cool. 755087;1405356177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1494 @ 0.00275619 = 4.1177 BTC [-] {7} 755088;1405356178;RetroUpriser;and apparently he only wants to embarrass himself 755089;1405356178;RetroUpriser;[12:41] <@danielpbarron> please don't embarrass me 755090;1405356184;mircea_popescu;lol 755091;1405356189;fluffypony;hah hah 755092;1405356199;fluffypony;tell us all his embarrassing stories 755093;1405356209;mircea_popescu;RetroUpriser he's referring to the fact that many people here are assholes, and will take poorly to cluelessness. 755094;1405356221;RetroUpriser;I understand, it was a joke 755095;1405356293;danielpbarron;I know RetroUpriser face-to-face; lives nearby 755096;1405356300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.1851796 = 7.4072 BTC [-] {9} 755097;1405356333;mod6;I bet I haven't played KoL since like 2003. 755098;1405356359;mircea_popescu;mod6 didja like it ? 755099;1405356364;danielpbarron;heh, your account is more oldschool than mine :/ 755100;1405356367;mircea_popescu;im contemplating sponsoring it 755101;1405356378;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron i think he also has kids your age. 755102;1405356381;mircea_popescu;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755103;1405356391;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr what, seriously ? 755104;1405356454;mod6;mircea_popescu: yeah, was fun for a while. my old char was a "sauceror" haha 755105;1405356460;*;danielpbarron is a pastamancer 755106;1405356471;mircea_popescu;lol 755107;1405356495;mircea_popescu;is this like progress quest except online ? 755108;1405356632;danielpbarron;I'm not sure what to compare it to; it's a turn based RPG. 755109;1405356675;BingoBoingo;^ this 755110;1405356682;danielpbarron;you level up and collect items and all that stuff 755111;1405356716;ThickAsThieves;Saucerer, awesome 755112;1405356735;danielpbarron;and there is a huge economy of virtual items that you can buy and sell in the "Mall" 755113;1405356800;mod6;I sold mixed drinks in my store. 755114;1405356869;punkman;oh look they kickstarted another Tex Murphy game, http://www.texmurphy.com/ 755115;1405357211;mircea_popescu;is this the guy that failed horribly a year or so ago ? 755116;1405357213;punkman;I wonder why the live-footage game genre kinda disappeared after it actually became affordable 755117;1405357610;mircea_popescu;i think thats an answer-containing question. 755118;1405357619;mircea_popescu;next up, "why do people stop fucking women after marrying them" 755119;1405357644;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/14/kickstarter-is-a-waste-pirate-is-a-skyscraper/ 755120;1405357664;punkman;they are already releasing new games in "episodes", add some live actors in the mix, sounds like a goldmine 755121;1405358270;BingoBoingo;!up the20year 755122;1405358281;the20year;nifty 755123;1405358283;BingoBoingo;!up jMyles 755124;1405358288;BingoBoingo;!up Sebastan 755125;1405358294;BingoBoingo;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755126;1405358332;PantyHotOffThePr;Cool beans, I was having trouble accessing this before. My screen froze up 755127;1405358347;the20year;everyone is getting voiced today it seems 755128;1405358390;benkay;wow the20year how's it going? 755129;1405358400;the20year;Good, july ended well for us 755130;1405358423;benkay;what's your NAV at this point? 755131;1405358424;the20year;Well, in the sense we collected 100% of rents by 5th of month (Which is good for the holiday being the 4th). 755132;1405358429;the20year;Right around $650k 755133;1405358436;the20year;So a little more than 1kbtc 755134;1405358449;benkay;what was the sum of your rounds in btc? 755135;1405358477;the20year;I'd have to dig up the BF round numbers since i can't remember them offhand, but havelock was around 525btc 755136;1405358502;the20year;give me a sec and i'll find that exact # 755137;1405358528;benkay;;;calc 686/0.0045 755138;1405358529;gribble;152444.444444 755139;1405358534;benkay;;;calc 686.28/0.0045 755140;1405358534;gribble;152506.666667 755141;1405358545;benkay;;;ticker 755142;1405358546;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.0, Best ask: 621.53, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 622.73, 24 hour volume: 3349.68478218, 24 hour low: 617.7, 24 hour high: 632.56, 24 hour vwap: 625.607716087 755143;1405358550;the20year;Eh, right around 610btc 755144;1405358573;the20year;1st round was around 76,000 shares @ .0055 , second was 26,000 @ .0075 755145;1405358579;benkay;;;calc 650000/620 755146;1405358579;gribble;1048.38709677 755147;1405358606;benkay;;;calc 10048.38709677/152506.666667 755148;1405358607;gribble;0.0658881825718 755149;1405358621;benkay;you're telling me that RENT is trading at less than a tenth of NAV? 755150;1405358622;the20year;https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/RSJuly.jpg 755151;1405358624;benkay;am i doing that correctly? 755152;1405358630;mike_c;benkay: you stuck an extra 0 in there 755153;1405358642;mike_c;;;calc 1048/152506 755154;1405358643;gribble;0.00687186077925 755155;1405358645;the20year;NAV is around .0065/share, current price is .0040-.0045 755156;1405358679;benkay;hm 755157;1405358690;benkay;i wonder what the discount's due to: inevitable price increases or trading on havelock? 755158;1405358702;BingoBoingo;!up shandid 755159;1405358707;BingoBoingo;!up jMyles 755160;1405358711;nubbins`;speaking of havelock, 755161;1405358712;the20year;Several guys going around generating bad press on us and havelock as a whole 755162;1405358712;ThickAsThieves;invetsor ignorance 755163;1405358714;nubbins`;!t h hif 755164;1405358715;assbot;[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00009486 / 0.00010389 / 0.00010750 (114 shares, 0.01184358 BTC), 7D: 0.00008000 / 0.00010042 / 0.00012486 (9595 shares, 0.96355370 BTC), 30D: 0.00007997 / 0.00010744 / 0.00017583 (19536 shares, 2.09890794 BTC) 755165;1405358721;the20year;all HL assets are looking terrible right no 755166;1405358723;the20year;*now 755167;1405358737;benkay;mike_c: good spot, tv. 755168;1405358737;BingoBoingo;the20year: Well maybe it's people shorting Lebron? 755169;1405358741;benkay;ty* 755170;1405358746;the20year;Possibly 755171;1405358760;ThickAsThieves;i'm surprised Havelock still has the volume it does 755172;1405358764;the20year;Too bad we're not in cleveland, our NAV would have went up 300% overnight due to lebron 755173;1405358768;the20year;I kind of am too 755174;1405358776;the20year;although someone had a pretty large share buy yesterday 755175;1405358780;the20year;for us 755176;1405358781;BingoBoingo;Or people doubt the ability of Ohio to endure into the future without setting it's water on fire again 755177;1405358806;the20year;hey now, we're like 60 years now without our rivers being on fire 755178;1405358821;nubbins`;not bad 755179;1405358829;the20year;One of the rivers (The Scioto) that goes through our county was/is actually one of the cleanest rivers east of the mississippi, it's actually rated high enough to drink from 755180;1405358907;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/ 755181;1405359238;mircea_popescu;o look, the20year 755182;1405359240;mircea_popescu;how's biz ? 755183;1405359271;the20year;Good overall, 9/12 units are rehabbed and rented (cashflowing too). 755184;1405359293;mircea_popescu;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755185;1405359299;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr hello ? 755186;1405359322;nubbins`;so i was out postering yesterday. i see these digitally-printed posters for the folk festival, all the toner is flaked and peeling off, absolute shit prints 755187;1405359327;PantyHotOffThePr;Oh sorry, was lurkin then looked at another tab. What up? 755188;1405359332;nubbins`;i decide to take a photo and share it via pink eye 755189;1405359344;nubbins`;"hey, see how shitty digital prints can get? try waterproof pink eye posters" 755190;1405359355;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr a nm, just keeping an eye for the people trying to sell me their tit pics. 755191;1405359357;nubbins`;12 hours later, lady from the folk festival emails asking for a quote ;( 755192;1405359401;mircea_popescu;the20year hey, do you have a bitcoin education tenant program ? 755193;1405359414;PantyHotOffThePr;Well that would be me as well, I just figured I'd eyeball a bit first. Seemed there was a discussion going on and I didn't want to be the asshole that just jumps in like "Yo, tit pic sale?" 755194;1405359426;mircea_popescu;lol 755195;1405359437;mircea_popescu;that's uncharacteristically considerate. 755196;1405359449;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/27SRR1N.txt ) 755197;1405359449;BingoBoingo;!b 3 755198;1405359456;nubbins`;the "yo" is a reasonably enough segue 755199;1405359460;nubbins`;*reasonable 755200;1405359463;mircea_popescu;i done it. 755201;1405359484;the20year;Not yet, but we're planning on it, the big thing to get people into BTC will be our investor relation system that's coming up 755202;1405359505;PantyHotOffThePr;I'm guessing now's a good a time as any though huh? If you don't mind me asking, why start this up? 755203;1405359509;nubbins`;!up miaoux 755204;1405359510;mircea_popescu;can be something as simple as a "Here's what Bitcoin is" leaflet left in the units. 755205;1405359513;nubbins`;salut m. chat 755206;1405359519;miaoux;salut ;) 755207;1405359527;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr well this has actualy been discussed, in the logs. let's see here. 755208;1405359538;benkay;!s cryptsy security 755209;1405359538;assbot;0 results for 'cryptsy security' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cryptsy+security 755210;1405359542;benkay;!s cryptsy 755211;1405359543;assbot;81 results for 'cryptsy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cryptsy 755212;1405359587;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744256 755213;1405359588;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 755214;1405359655;ThickAsThieves;mp likes to make it hard to understand things, luckily he also likes explaining them 755215;1405359668;ThickAsThieves;TLDR, sex sells 755216;1405359686;mircea_popescu;i'm one of those "mindfucks are the best fucks" sort of types. 755217;1405359705;PantyHotOffThePr;Got it, got it. Sounds cool enough. I had gotten a message via reddit and figured 'd come check it out 755218;1405359743;the20year;mircea_popescu: the plan now is to offer 5% off their rent if they pay in BTC 755219;1405359758;ThickAsThieves;sweet 755220;1405359759;nubbins`;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744274 755221;1405359759;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 755222;1405359760;nubbins`;LEL 755223;1405359770;the20year;but part of doing that is doing a online billpay portal on our website and right now we hardly spend anything on our website because 100% of our action is on facebook right now 755224;1405359798;mircea_popescu;the20year that's nice for sure. but seems these are different demos 755225;1405359804;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr ok, so got a link to your prev work ? 755226;1405359812;nubbins`;+1, facebook for business 755227;1405359816;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: parody article << 'rather than dayjobs you talk about people needing to be hungry and desperate and stuff like that connotes to me this very strong emotional' << as if this had to go from emotion. 'people need to be hungry and desperate' is as much a technical statement as 'million volt bus bars must be spaced at least one metre apart.' 755228;1405359823;PantyHotOffThePr;http://www.reddit.com/user/PantyHotOffThePress/ 755229;1405359824;assbot;overview for PantyHotOffThePress 755230;1405359842;PantyHotOffThePr;Got into this relatively recently 755231;1405359857;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: (well, more like 3 metre.) 755232;1405359949;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr ok, put 477ad8a6 on your tits, take a pic. here's a good example for you : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684 755233;1405359949;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 755234;1405359974;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, to you and me, yes. 755235;1405359976;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 755236;1405360009;BayAreaCoins;Ty 755237;1405360066;mircea_popescu;let's see if something can be worked out here. nubbins` would you design a great A4 "what is bitcoin" poster ? and if he does, the20year would you put one in every unit ? 755238;1405360085;mircea_popescu;lol 755239;1405360087;mircea_popescu;!up the20year 755240;1405360175;nubbins`;i sure could 755241;1405360402;mircea_popescu;!up Xplosionist 755242;1405360410;mircea_popescu;shit look at that mike_c, over 30 weekly game. 755243;1405360467;Xplosionist;;;gpg auth Xplosionist 755244;1405360468;gribble;Request successful for user Xplosionist, hostmask Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b09e590318687c8e98cde7988e23840d466957d9ff3cb9e7f1439920 755245;1405360491;mircea_popescu;you know whe have ;;eauth now. works easier. 755246;1405360505;nubbins`;we also have /msg gribble 755247;1405360507;mike_c;nice, war is heating up. 755248;1405360520;nubbins`;!up haos 755249;1405360520;mircea_popescu;mike_c did you get my gribble novel ? 755250;1405360524;Xplosionist;;;gpg eauth Xplosionist 755251;1405360525;gribble;Request successful for user Xplosionist, hostmask Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F1410E75EFA0D834 755252;1405360526;asciilifeform;;;rate Xplosionist 1 actual human, meatspace colleague 755253;1405360526;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 755254;1405360531;Xplosionist;Yeah, I'm still learning. :-) 755255;1405360538;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist now curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F1410E75EFA0D834 | gpg 755256;1405360562;mircea_popescu;that url is also fixed, being your key. you'll just have to ping gribble to refresh it any time prior to use. 755257;1405360602;asciilifeform;;;rate Xplosionist 1 actual human, meatspace colleague 755258;1405360604;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Xplosionist has been recorded. 755259;1405360646;the20year;mircea_popescu: Yeah, i'll do it 755260;1405360656;mircea_popescu;it's a deal then. 755261;1405360663;the20year;This Christmas though I plan on giving every unit bitcoin 755262;1405360663;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what do you figure, best to what, laminate them ? 755263;1405360671;Xplosionist;k, then I have to paste the results into some url, rather than to gribble. Bleah. k. 755264;1405360686;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist wait what ? 755265;1405360689;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: try self-voicing now 755266;1405360706;nubbins`;if you're leaving them in rental units, they're essentially disposable. straight in the trash on day one. not much use laminating 755267;1405360754;Xplosionist;I'm reading http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication. There are a few examples, and it's hard to follow, but I rememebr last week following the one that said to paste the response to some site (pastebin or the like) and use said url to verify. 755268;1405360755;assbot;wiki.bitcoin-otc.com | 404 - Page Cannot Be Found 755269;1405360758;mircea_popescu;maybe be a total asshole and give them btc for xmas IF THEY SHOW YOU THE POSTER 755270;1405360762;mircea_popescu;but not tell them anythng about it :D 755271;1405360777;mircea_popescu;nubbins` anyway, how much to design, print a batch of say 50 and ship it ? 755272;1405360790;PantyHotOffThePr;http://i.imgur.com/LiGgqXA.jpg 755273;1405360799;PantyHotOffThePr;sorry it took so long 755274;1405360819;mircea_popescu;i guess your pouty mouth is quite distinctive enough huh. aite. 755275;1405360821;mircea_popescu;address ? 755276;1405360821;mike_c;yeah, i got your gribble. it's an interesting idea, I'll think through it. 755277;1405360828;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: simple: first, ';;gpg eauth yourname' - then, 'wget -q -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/YOURKEYID | gpg -q --output - --decrypt' and paste result into ';;eauth resultgoeshere' (msg to gribble) 755278;1405360828;assbot;404 Not Found 755279;1405360844;PantyHotOffThePr;1JCMf3CefpsJZc7YUk3gr2t2N1HCUmTSA6 755280;1405360850;asciilifeform;*everify (for last one) 755281;1405360857;FabianB;$mpexlag 755282;1405360859;empyex;FabianB: Hmm.. error. 755283;1405360866;FabianB;k 755284;1405360885;nubbins`;digital prints or silkscreen? design part of it comes down to how nice you want 'em to look 755285;1405360885;mircea_popescu;FabianB it's being tested since last night. hopefully all is well. 755286;1405360905;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well you know, tis for teh republic. 755287;1405360911;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: the url contains just a random turd, encrypted to your pgp key. gribble wants the value of the turd, when it gets it - you're authed. 755288;1405360931;Xplosionist;No go, gribble says Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. 755289;1405360942;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr so what do you do, other than reddit ? 755290;1405360943;FabianB;mircea_popescu: sounds good 755291;1405360972;Xplosionist;";;eauth value-of-turd" yields that. 755292;1405360975;*;nubbins` humms 755293;1405360987;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: / msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com (to freenode, obviously not in channel) 755294;1405361003;PantyHotOffThePr;As in everyday activities, or in relation to tits? :P Just testin' the waters, felt like being a lil adventurous so I created that reddit account. 755295;1405361014;nubbins`;do i have free rein regarding content/style? 755296;1405361017;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml (under 'user registration') - only needs to be done once 755297;1405361018;assbot;freenode: frequently-asked questions 755298;1405361029;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr as in for a living. 755299;1405361032;Xplosionist;I did that, last week. I should be good on that. 755300;1405361049;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust Xplosionist 755301;1405361050;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Xplosionist: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Xplosionist | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Xplosionist | Rated since: Mon Jul 14 13:56:42 2014 755302;1405361068;mircea_popescu;yep the acct exists. 755303;1405361073;mircea_popescu;;;ident Xplosionist 755304;1405361073;gribble;Nick 'Xplosionist', with hostmask 'Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211', is not identified. 755305;1405361078;mircea_popescu;but you're not identified. 755306;1405361085;PantyHotOffThePr;2 different retail jobs, and selling some diy things in my local community as it comes up 755307;1405361090;Xplosionist;one sec 755308;1405361103;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr went to school for anything ? 755309;1405361129;mircea_popescu;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755310;1405361131;mircea_popescu;!up Xplosionist 755311;1405361146;benkay;public relations, clearly. what else could the panties be hot off of? 755312;1405361149;PantyHotOffThePr;Currently, stuck on teaching for now. I'm still flip-floppin on that though 755313;1405361170;nubbins`;don't do it, it's a trap 755314;1405361179;Xplosionist;;;ident Xplosionist 755315;1405361179;gribble;Nick 'Xplosionist', with hostmask 'Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211', is not identified. 755316;1405361196;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr shitty plan. 755317;1405361219;Xplosionist;4:04 NickServYou are already logged in as Xplosionist. 755318;1405361221;PantyHotOffThePr;Yeah, I've been thinking so as well 755319;1405361226;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: [fwd slash] msg NickServ IDENTIFY foo password 755320;1405361228;PantyHotOffThePr;Hence the flip-flop 755321;1405361240;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: already did? 755322;1405361248;Xplosionist;Yup, did that, but the eauth still saying the same thing. 755323;1405361297;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist because asciilifeform is dyslexic 755324;1405361302;mircea_popescu;you need ;;everify value of turd 755325;1405361306;mircea_popescu;not ;;eauth value of turd 755326;1405361318;Xplosionist;thanks. _that_ worked. :-) 755327;1405361318;asciilifeform;i did point out after. 755328;1405361318;mircea_popescu;;: asciilifeform -1 confuses noobs 755329;1405361330;asciilifeform;lel 755330;1405361333;mircea_popescu;lol 755331;1405361348;nubbins`;mp, how about fifty 18x24" posters on double-thick card w/ a 4-color silkscreen print 755332;1405361351;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr well, so do you want to pursue camwhoring as a career ? 755333;1405361355;mircea_popescu;or flip flopping on that too ? 755334;1405361361;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: try self-voicing now 755335;1405361362;nubbins`;we're gonna leave junk mail on their table, might as well make it something they'll wanna hang on their wall 755336;1405361370;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i dunno, is that good ? 755337;1405361371;Xplosionist;asciilifeform: I think I'll just refer to you as alf. Easier, and funny. 755338;1405361377;nubbins`;it's fucking great is what it is 755339;1405361380;asciilifeform;lol 755340;1405361392;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: log out, then back in, and message assbot with '!up' 755341;1405361396;mircea_popescu;nubbins` aite, ima go on your hand. how much ? 755342;1405361400;BayAreaCoins;If I had tits and was hot I'd be camming 755343;1405361406;nubbins`;$400 shipped 755344;1405361410;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins weren;t you gonna talk to some womenz ? 755345;1405361420;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you're on. addy ? and the20year pls send the guy some address. 755346;1405361428;nubbins`;sec 755347;1405361436;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu RavinTavin isn't speaking to me atm. 755348;1405361446;asciilifeform;nubbins`, mircea_popescu: if poster in rental units - etch it into the fridge, stove, or the like. 755349;1405361449;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu business dispute 755350;1405361451;Xplosionist;[slash] mode + v? Tells me I'm not a channl operator. What comment should I be trying? 755351;1405361459;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist !up 755352;1405361470;the20year;? 755353;1405361473;PantyHotOffThePr;Probably not, I dont think it'd be good for whatever career I do land on. "Oh hey, you're my kids teacher right? Saw your tits on skype last night, cool!" 755354;1405361475;the20year;email? 755355;1405361476;Xplosionist;!up 755356;1405361483;Xplosionist;!up Xplosionist 755357;1405361483;nubbins`;1CiVT9uRrfdqupH1exx5jtPAS9NHPATLqi 755358;1405361488;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: should be in privmsg to assbot 755359;1405361491;mircea_popescu;the20year no, he's going to send you 50 posters for teh units. 755360;1405361497;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 755361;1405361499;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 622.91, Best ask: 623.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 622.9, 24 hour volume: 3393.86316302, 24 hour low: 617.7, 24 hour high: 632.0, 24 hour vwap: 624.250093266 755362;1405361500;nubbins`;we'll need to order the paper in, looking at late august if that's okay 755363;1405361502;the20year;will i get more reviews or whatever I need if I do the flyers so I won't need voiced again? 755364;1405361505;the20year;that's fine 755365;1405361519;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot the20year 755366;1405361520;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: Tue Apr 29 11:21:55 2014 755367;1405361532;Xplosionist;"!up" tells me it needs a nickname, "!up Xplosionist" tells me "insuffienent rights, !up yourself on PM first". What PM? 755368;1405361541;mircea_popescu;;;rate the20year Hasn't run off yet. 755369;1405361541;gribble;Error: "Hasn't" is not a valid integer. 755370;1405361546;mircea_popescu;;;rate the20year 1 Hasn't run off yet. 755371;1405361547;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user the20year has been recorded. 755372;1405361549;mircea_popescu;now you can self voice. 755373;1405361559;the20year;joy 755374;1405361569;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: private msg. [fwd slash] msg assbot !up 755375;1405361580;the20year;nubbins`: i sent you my address 755376;1405361588;asciilifeform;there! 755377;1405361603;Xplosionist;K. That worked. Thanks alf. 755378;1405361605;asciilifeform;welcome to #b-a Xplosionist 755379;1405361609;kakobrekla;nubbins` can you make and ship extra 5 or so to me, ill pay. 755380;1405361610;nubbins`;got it 755381;1405361620;mircea_popescu;you know i like alf ? asciilifeform better add it to the highlight list lol 755382;1405361629;asciilifeform;lol did ages ago 755383;1405361631;nubbins`;kako can do, ~$7.50 plus s&h 755384;1405361635;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist here's a tip : if you use an actual client that's not fucktarded, type asc hit tab 755385;1405361636;nubbins`;(each) 755386;1405361660;Xplosionist;mircea_popescu: thx. Limechat does that fine. :-) 755387;1405361663;mircea_popescu;kay, nubbins` PantyHotOffThePr aec53477739a7f4aa8ca52e5645e3c15f3399cd502ffd721546afa99238510d5 755388;1405361694;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com << useful gizmo with logs, search, 'bash' 755389;1405361695;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 755390;1405361701;kakobrekla;nubbins` get me the total number with shipping in btc. 755391;1405361724;nubbins`;mind if i ship em in a tube? 755392;1405361733;mircea_popescu;make it red. 755393;1405361737;mircea_popescu;he gets a lot of red tubes. 755394;1405361741;nubbins`;lel 755395;1405361750;nubbins`;we package most things in red paper ;( 755396;1405361782;fluffypony;red paper packages tied up with string 755397;1405361787;fluffypony;these are a few of nubbins` favourite things 755398;1405361821;kakobrekla;dunno, ill prolly have to pay customs either way. 755399;1405361833;mircea_popescu;lol fluffypony 755400;1405361883;kakobrekla;dont make them too big 755401;1405361938;BingoBoingo;!up BayAreaCoins 755402;1405361950;BingoBoingo;;;ident BayAreaCoins 755403;1405361951;gribble;Nick 'BayAreaCoins', with hostmask 'BayAreaCoins!403ac6b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.198.181', is not identified. 755404;1405361952;nubbins`;20x5x5" tube or 20x26x2" box would be your choices 755405;1405361975;nubbins`;i suspect the tube would be cheaper to ship and more impervious to damage, but on the down-side your posters get rolled 755406;1405361992;kakobrekla;2" ? 755407;1405361997;kakobrekla;what are they made of ? 755408;1405362025;nubbins`;corrugated cardboard, reinforced corners 755409;1405362032;nubbins`;it's what we receive paper in 755410;1405362050;kakobrekla;o i thought it was poster paper 755411;1405362078;nubbins`;oh oh sorry 755412;1405362085;kakobrekla;and you can roll that thing 755413;1405362093;nubbins`;the posters themselves are going on double-thick card 755414;1405362100;nubbins`;that's a good point 755415;1405362102;nubbins`;they won't roll 755416;1405362115;kakobrekla;ok so roll it is! 755417;1405362121;nubbins`;:( 755418;1405362128;mircea_popescu;aite i'll be off for a little, bbs. 755419;1405362163;nubbins`;kako, what country again? 755420;1405362170;kakobrekla;slovenia 755421;1405362172;BingoBoingo;Somalia 755422;1405362182;kakobrekla;yeah BingoBoingo i have it routed. 755423;1405362197;nubbins`;right, thought so 755424;1405362202;danielpbarron;if you guys set channel mode +z ops like assbot will be able to see messages from devoiced users; the !up command could work without a private message 755425;1405362215;nubbins`;looks like a roll would be about $30 postage, flat box would be $60+ 755426;1405362228;nubbins`;which sounds way too high, but who knows 755427;1405362254;nubbins`;so you'd be looking at a total of $70 or ~$100 for roll/box 755428;1405362261;nubbins`;;;calc 70/[ticker --last] 755429;1405362262;gribble;0.112399242108 755430;1405362265;nubbins`;;;calc 100/[ticker --last] 755431;1405362266;gribble;0.160570345869 755432;1405362323;kakobrekla;gimme an addy if you want it nao 755433;1405362360;nubbins`;1CiVT9uRrfdqupH1exx5jtPAS9NHPATLqi 755434;1405362413;Xplosionist;;;calc happiness/[ticker --last] 755435;1405362415;gribble;Error: 'happiness' is not a defined function. 755436;1405362430;Xplosionist;Oh well, had to try it. Maybe we should define the happiness function? 755437;1405362439;nubbins`;your logic has no place here D: 755438;1405362457;Xplosionist;nubbins`: maybe my happiness doesn't either. 755439;1405362466;nubbins`;!up samO 755440;1405362469;nubbins`;maybe :) 755441;1405362470;Xplosionist;"freenode:#bitcoin-otc:88fae3a2d5ea5dbcdda550e9753974dc4f106fafb75dde2ff16a7ed2 " 755442;1405362485;Xplosionist;"Error: 'happiness' is not a defined function." may visit me in my dreams. 755443;1405362489;BingoBoingo;;;lasers 755444;1405362489;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 755445;1405362502;samO;thx nubbins` 755446;1405362506;nubbins`;np 755447;1405362517;BingoBoingo;;;echo up stormlight 755448;1405362517;gribble;up stormlight 755449;1405362521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.015375 = 0.738 BTC [-] {4} 755450;1405362523;BingoBoingo;!up stormlight 755451;1405362560;kakobrekla;nubbins` sent. 755452;1405362597;nubbins`;tyvm 755453;1405362617;thestringpuller;;;kittehlasers 755454;1405362617;gribble;Error: "kittehlasers" is not a valid command. 755455;1405362620;kakobrekla;make it nice and not too big :) 755456;1405362622;thestringpuller;;;kittenlasers 755457;1405362622;gribble;Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command. 755458;1405362638;nubbins`;will do :D 755459;1405362645;Xplosionist;;;lasers shoot the kitten 755460;1405362645;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 755461;1405362695;BingoBoingo;!s kitt* 755462;1405362696;assbot;103 results for 'kitt*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=kitt%2A 755463;1405362710;thestringpuller;!s kitt* laser 755464;1405362711;assbot;11 results for 'kitt* laser' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=kitt%2A+laser 755465;1405362818;BingoBoingo;;;laserkittens 755466;1405362819;gribble;ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew* 755467;1405362826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.0028 = 0.5544 BTC [+] 755468;1405362878;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 755469;1405362882;gribble;Current Blocks: 310736 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1743 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18180062148.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.86692 755470;1405363161;BingoBoingo;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755471;1405363168;BingoBoingo;!up kermit 755472;1405363394;asciilifeform;;;seen moiety 755473;1405363395;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out 755474;1405363425;asciilifeform;;;later tell moiety old neighbour discovered her cat eaten. what species eats housecats? 755475;1405363426;gribble;The operation succeeded. 755476;1405363571;Xplosionist;asciilifeform: Dogs, big ones. 755477;1405363715;mike_c;coyotes 755478;1405363756;asciilifeform;Xplosionist: afaik neither animal is the likely suspect 755479;1405363788;mike_c;http://media.sdreader.com/img/blogs/entry_img/2011/May/19/coyote-eating-cat1_t400.jpg 755480;1405363819;asciilifeform;afaik the last coyote here ate his bullet at least a century ago. 755481;1405363823;Xplosionist;asciilifeform: Coyotes are around... 755482;1405363863;Xplosionist;Oh no, there are still coyotes around in the midatlantic. Mostly out into the appalaichains, but some in the area. 755483;1405363892;mike_c;raccoons will do it too 755484;1405363917;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: do you have a favourite pill against coyote ? 755485;1405363917;Xplosionist;http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Maryland-Woman-Reports-Coyotes-Attacked-Her-Dogs-201165241.html 755486;1405363918;assbot;Maryland Woman Reports Coyotes Attacked Her Dogs | NBC4 Washington 755487;1405363991;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Other than marking territory and verbally accosting coyotes I encounter? Hmmm.... 755488;1405364019;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Probably the best defense is a larger dog or a gram or so of lead 755489;1405364050;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: difficult to hunt in the city without everyone knowing. 755490;1405364055;Xplosionist;BingoBoingo: If only the automated lead disbursal was an easier to solve problem. :-) 755491;1405364118;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, at least for coyote sized targets. Otherwise there are some primer motivated only rimfire loads that are rather quiet 755492;1405364157;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i suppose for the genuine aficionado, there's always the 'cranequin'. 755493;1405364258;BingoBoingo;I mean it's hard to set traps for coyote that also won't be appealing to every other animal around, so you'd prelly have to go for a live trap. 755494;1405364287;BingoBoingo;That would be a rather large cage trap (the only kind really permitted in human habited areas. 755495;1405364502;benkay;http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2014/07/bot-dominance.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FrzYD+%28Global+Guerrillas%29 755496;1405364503;assbot;Bot Dominance - Global Guerrillas 755497;1405364524;benkay;and http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/11/exacto 755498;1405364524;assbot;Darpa tests bullet-sized homing missiles (Wired UK) 755499;1405364590;asciilifeform;benkay: ancient project. objective, in reality, is to bring on the wet dream of dod contractors everywhere: bullet costing $MAXINT. 755500;1405364710;BingoBoingo;http://www.wikihow.com/Act-when-Near-a-Coyote << Guide could also be called how to make coyotes feel at home in your neighborhood 755501;1405364711;assbot;3 Ways to Act when Near a Coyote - wikiHow 755502;1405364838;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, benkay: 'linux rifle' << when i first heard of this gadget, first though was 'why is it fired by electromechanically-controlled trigger weight and not simply electrical'. turns out, electrical firing is banned in usa. 755503;1405364854;BingoBoingo;Indeed it is 755504;1405364875;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: any idea why ? 755505;1405364930;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Probably because it makes full automatic firing possible 755506;1405364941;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: on a bolt-action elephant rifle ? 755507;1405364982;BingoBoingo;Why make a device with electric ignition bolt action? 755508;1405364993;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: accuracy. as pictured in the linked review. 755509;1405365031;asciilifeform;though the whole thing strikes me as quite like fishing with dynamite - where does the sport remain in the hunt ? 755510;1405365052;benkay;i also think robots aren't allowed to pull triggers on their own. 755511;1405365057;BingoBoingo;Oh, the engineers already had the sport with that one 755512;1405365121;BingoBoingo;I always imagined electic ignition firearms were for stuff like that caseless ammunition asssault rifle idea the Germans played with in the 80's 755513;1405365200;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/general-homesteading-forums/homesteading-questions/305226-defense-against-coyotes.html 755514;1405365202;assbot;Defense against coyotes? - Homesteading Today 755515;1405365265;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: american cities, where no hunt is permitted, and re-appearing large carnivores will be - is - an interesting combination. 755516;1405365292;BingoBoingo;It really is. 755517;1405365343;BingoBoingo;I wonder what a few more generations of feral culture will do to the wild dogs in Detroit. 755518;1405365354;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: as i recall, they've already been eaten. 755519;1405365390;asciilifeform;well - shot, cooked, and sold at a famous open air market 755520;1405365428;BingoBoingo;Ah, well then I guess we have to see what one of the other Murican urban futures labs report. 755521;1405366012;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: At least living in a place with winter you don't have to worry about the problem of large snakes becoming established carnivorous megafauna 755522;1405366576;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 22.42312364 BTC. Current weight: 6,977. 755523;1405367869;jurov;imo the cat was eaten by spider 755524;1405368248;BingoBoingo;!up nubbins` 755525;1405370229;mircea_popescu;i just got discriminated against! 755526;1405370281;asciilifeform;lol, how ? 755527;1405370296;mircea_popescu;dude waiting for elevator in lobby, sorta middle aged middle east looking guy. i push the button, look around, discover his elevator is actually the closest, nod at him, guy is sorta scowling at me. then he moves over. elevator gets here, i go in, he's not going in. i go like come right in, he's pushing the button 755528;1405370303;mircea_popescu;smh. 755529;1405370395;ThickAsThieves;who's the nigger now! 755530;1405370434;*;asciilifeform misread from corner of eye, 'discover his elevator is actually the closet', initially puzzled 755531;1405370449;kakobrekla;you werent looking germant werent you? 755532;1405370450;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ikr? dat burn. 755533;1405370460;mircea_popescu;i dunno. im not blonde. how does one look german ? 755534;1405370461;kakobrekla;german* 755535;1405370494;kakobrekla;they look like running out of argentina 755536;1405370500;asciilifeform;how does one look german << perhaps like this: http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/BigPictures/Leibniz_8.jpeg 755537;1405370515;kakobrekla;hair is similar. 755538;1405370549;mircea_popescu;lol 755539;1405370554;mircea_popescu;isn't that british 755540;1405370575;mircea_popescu;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755541;1405370578;asciilifeform;don't imagine they're terribly fond of brits in Ar either 755542;1405370594;mircea_popescu;well tbh i kinda look... i dunno, i guess jewish 755543;1405370602;mircea_popescu;minus the nose. 755544;1405370618;ThickAsThieves;maybe he knows a romanian when he sees one 755545;1405370663;mircea_popescu;i don't look like any romanian i've ever met. 755546;1405370683;ThickAsThieves;we separated you from your twin at birth 755547;1405370699;mircea_popescu;who's we ? i thought i was older than you 755548;1405370745;ThickAsThieves;The Infininati 755549;1405370760;ThickAsThieves;age is just a number 755550;1405370785;mircea_popescu;aww why not infinititti ? 755551;1405370794;mircea_popescu;when one has such a great chance at a great name! 755552;1405370839;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr so the question to you was, do you want to pursue camwhoring as a career ? 755553;1405370922;PantyHotOffThePr;Not particularly, pictures are one thing but slamming my face in a video when I may become a teacher probably isn't the smartest idea. 755554;1405371019;mircea_popescu;well listen, you gotta find something to actually do. 755555;1405371032;mircea_popescu;this sorta halfway everything is a great way to become a sad old person. 755556;1405371143;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: Xplosionist: afaik neither animal is the likely suspect << a lot of rats. 755557;1405371171;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the cat in question was part of an 8-cat brigade, so rat is unlikely. 755558;1405371189;mircea_popescu;depends. 755559;1405371201;mircea_popescu;rats aren't actually either brave or pack-hunters. 755560;1405371207;mircea_popescu;shit i mean cats aren't. 755561;1405371214;asciilifeform;was a rather skinny and aged (17 y!) speciment, however. 755562;1405371237;mircea_popescu;usually the way this works is it misjudges itself, attacks a rat, the rat bites it badly, 755563;1405371246;mircea_popescu;after which the rest of the rats opportunity-eat it. 755564;1405371250;PantyHotOffThePr;Eh, I'll figure it out sooner or later. I hope. 755565;1405371264;mircea_popescu;PantyHotOffThePr one thing you can do is get yourself in the wot. 755566;1405371266;asciilifeform;do rats know how to drag a carcass away, like ants ? 755567;1405371321;mircea_popescu;sure. 755568;1405371327;mircea_popescu;why do you thin kthe sewer is a thing ? 755569;1405371771;mircea_popescu;;;google highly sexual yelps of Kournikova playing tennis 755570;1405371772;gribble;Ken Park pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Anna Kournikova - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia: ; Tennis Players Bill Simmons Would Do: Another Classic From The ...: ; FLASH YOUR TITS - I'LL PAY YOU - NOT FAKE: ; Maurica: Pay for my Tits: 755574;1405372475;asciilifeform;!up PantyHotOffThePr 755575;1405372495;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if google has a search profile for gribble 755576;1405372498;Xplosionist;asciilifeform: Getting up in the panties. nice. 755577;1405372513;Xplosionist;;;google gribble search profile 755578;1405372514;gribble;Gribble neighborhood in Dallas, Texas (TX), 75229, 75234 ...: ; Matthew Gribble - United Arab Emirates | LinkedIn: ; Matt Gribble profiles | LinkedIn: 755579;1405372533;Xplosionist;ThickAsThieves: Not a good one. :-) 755580;1405372551;ThickAsThieves;trilema is 2nd when i search pay for your tits 755581;1405372575;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i imagine it must. but i get the same off random ips too 755582;1405372621;mircea_popescu;i wonder how profiling gribble would work, seeing how it never clicks on anything 755583;1405372648;rithm;oooh a search profile 755584;1405372693;rithm;that doesn't work, i've been trolled here 755585;1405372697;rithm;smh 755586;1405372701;ThickAsThieves;yep it's 2nd if i use a clena browser too 755587;1405372706;ThickAsThieves;clean 755588;1405372791;mircea_popescu;ono gribs, you've been lied to ? 755589;1405372985;mircea_popescu;http://myfreeimplants.com/ << kickstarter is so last derpday. boobstarter is here! invest in breast! 755590;1405372985;assbot;Free Breast Implants, Free Boob Job, Free Plastic Surgery Financing. MyFreeImplants.com 755591;1405373050;ThickAsThieves;is it blowjobs for boobjobs essentially? 755592;1405373107;mircea_popescu;i doubt it. prolly more like "click to feed the indians" sorta deal 755593;1405373190;Xplosionist;I wonder if they prohibit suggesting repayment in blowjobs? 755594;1405373227;mircea_popescu;a blowjob is like $20. a hotel stay, like $100. airfare say $500. 755595;1405373233;mircea_popescu;why would you buy blowjobs on the interwebs ? 755596;1405373245;ThickAsThieves;why would you by drugs on the interwebs? 755597;1405373254;ThickAsThieves;buy 755598;1405373282;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that's retarded, which is why sr never went anywhere. 755599;1405373289;mircea_popescu;now imagine pills were 50lbs+ each 755600;1405373339;ThickAsThieves;i'd be even less likely to take them 755601;1405373347;Xplosionist;mircea_popescu: YEah, but if you could get a whole lot of blowjobs from someone for a couple hundred bucks toniation toward her plastic surgery, then. 755602;1405373363;mircea_popescu;then just buy her outright and get her the surgery ? 755603;1405373367;Xplosionist;I'm not saying it's likely to work out at all well. 755604;1405373393;ThickAsThieves;maybe site has "find sunken chest in your area" 755605;1405373401;mircea_popescu;ahah 755606;1405373429;mircea_popescu;i wonder if there's a weirdo-christian website paying women to have breastreduction. 755607;1405373432;Xplosionist;free thinking, doesn't require (or recommend!) serious analysis. :-) 755608;1405373450;mircea_popescu;something a la skoptsy. 755609;1405373807;mircea_popescu;hey kakobrekla , "Last block: 59 minutes ago (310746)" according to bitbet but we're on 310750. 755610;1405373838;mike_c;blockchains are hard 755611;1405373889;mike_c;WoL is on 310802 because it is awesome 755612;1405373897;mike_c;it sees the future 755613;1405374026;mircea_popescu;lol 755614;1405374047;mircea_popescu;228 (block 310,751 no ? 755615;1405374123;mike_c;ok, it doesn't *really* see the future 755616;1405374135;mike_c;but if it could! 755617;1405374143;mircea_popescu;http://listverse.com/2014/07/02/10-terrifyingly-evil-killer-cults/ << check out the vampyre kids 755618;1405374144;assbot;10 Terrifyingly Evil Killer Cults - Listverse 755619;1405374163;mircea_popescu;"On November 25, 1996, Ferrell and his vampire clan, which consisted of Scott Anderson and two teenage girls" 755620;1405374188;mircea_popescu;next one up, "Operating in Massachusetts in the late 70s, the Fall Rivers Cult was led by 25-year-old Carl Drew. Drew was a pimp who used Satanism to terrify the prostitutes who worked for him." 755621;1405374197;mircea_popescu;that guy musta thrown some wild parties. 755622;1405374342;kakobrekla;yes its being fixed 755623;1405374464;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.64923557 BTC. Current weight: 89,419. 755624;1405374627;mike_c;confirmed fixed. 755625;1405374847;mircea_popescu;"The South Pacific's first native Anglican bishop, Sir George Ambo, was excommunicated after running off with a nun, Sister Cora, with whom he set up a visionary cult." 755626;1405375172;mircea_popescu;Lundgren told jurors at his trial that he was a prophet of God and not worthy of the death penalty. The jurors disagreed and sentenced him to death. In a last-ditch appeal, Lundgren claimed he was too fat to be executed. The court shot down that appeal, too, and he was executed by lethal injection on October 24, 2006. 755627;1405375183;mircea_popescu;dude that's an argument. "i'm too fat to die!" 755628;1405375202;Xplosionist;No, "I'm to fat to be killed." Now disproven. :-) 755629;1405375239;mircea_popescu;yet another thing that works better for corporations. 755630;1405375258;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is a usa-specific thing, that probably needs explanation. a number of convicts argued (to varying degrees of success) that their execution, via the locally prescribed method, 'couldn't possibly work humanely' 755631;1405375271;mircea_popescu;oh, that's what it is. 755632;1405375277;mircea_popescu;ty. 755633;1405375279;asciilifeform;and then the judges get to fill out more paperwork, etc. 755634;1405375306;asciilifeform;'too fat' has been tried with regards to hanging, poison, etc. 755635;1405375336;mircea_popescu;The foursome would travel around the city in Gechts van and either lure women to the van or outright kidnap them. They would take the victims back to Gechts apartment in order to sacrifice them. First, they took turns raping the victim, before removing the breast using piano wire. Apparently, they subsequently masturbated onto the amputated breast before dicing it up and then eating it. This was all done while Ge 755636;1405375337;mircea_popescu;cht read aloud from the Satanic Bible. 755637;1405375345;mircea_popescu;that's the atomic cumbiscuit ? 755638;1405375651;mircea_popescu;"Despite a guilty plea, Taylor was given the death penalty. In 2010, Taylor tried to commit suicide by stuffing pens and pencils in his eye sockets, which only ended up blinding him. On August 14, 2013, Taylor hanged himself in his cell using his bedsheets." 755639;1405375756;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/linkedin-co-founder-bitcoin-smart-five-year-investment/ guy looks like pee wee herman's nemesis http://paolostheateroftheabsurd.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/francis_buxton2.jpg 755640;1405375757;assbot;LinkedIn Co-Founder: Bitcoin is in My Five-Year Investment Plan 755641;1405375991;mircea_popescu;lol 755642;1405375997;mircea_popescu;it's stil a smart five year investment. 755643;1405376104;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I'm sure you'll find this amusing, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2014/Jul/2014-07-14-215730_5120x1440_scrot.png 755644;1405376120;Azelphur;objectifying women, etc etc xD 755645;1405376214;mircea_popescu;Azelphur im not so up to date with the thing, so you're calling some dating site's api 755646;1405376222;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: nah no API, scraping. 755647;1405376231;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: I'm building a SQL database of singles in my area...for science and such. 755648;1405376238;mircea_popescu;oh oh 755649;1405376248;Azelphur;and okcupid has intelligence questions 755650;1405376253;Azelphur;so I can literally select * from users where clue > 0 755651;1405376269;mircea_popescu;how's the clue > 0 part work ? 755652;1405376298;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: okc asks basic intelligence questions, such as "STALE is to STEAL as 89475 is to...?" 755653;1405376303;dub;surely you want clue < 0 755654;1405376320;Azelphur;and as the site allows you to see peoples answers to questions, I can just do db queries and filter all those people out xD 755655;1405376365;mircea_popescu;ok, but i mean... filtering out retards != selecting for positive clue 755656;1405376378;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: hey, I didn't say it was much of a clue. 755657;1405376399;punkman;I 755658;1405376400;mircea_popescu;what you need is access to the inbox of a few hundred of the hotter women, 755659;1405376403;punkman;O 755660;1405376406;punkman;oops 755661;1405376406;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: hahaha 755662;1405376406;mircea_popescu;take all the messages guys sent them over a decade 755663;1405376410;mircea_popescu;make a beautiful soup of that 755664;1405376416;mircea_popescu;then send it to your prospects, see who answers 755665;1405376419;mircea_popescu;select the rest. 755666;1405376430;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: so basically, "u wan sum fuk?" xD 755667;1405376431;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu missed an 'invert' operator in there 755668;1405376461;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform noididn't.avi Azelphur it's actually quite patternable. 755669;1405376468;mircea_popescu;it's a good read, i recommend it. 755670;1405376483;asciilifeform;the women probably have a bayesian spamzapper. you want to slip past, not end up inside. 755671;1405376497;Azelphur;I see 755672;1405376503;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform identitty is cheap. 755673;1405376563;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many twentysomething owners of moderately successful sm sites have so far selected the interractions of all the people that got laid on the site and hashtree'd it. 755674;1405376570;mircea_popescu;sorta like a "talking to womenz prosthetic" 755675;1405376582;Azelphur;haha 755676;1405376601;mircea_popescu;after all, the space of language is actually finite, and besides, what are people who don't know each other gonna talk about. 755677;1405376605;mircea_popescu;5, maybe 10 things. 755678;1405376607;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: ever read oktrends? You'd like it I reckon. 755679;1405376613;mircea_popescu;nop 755680;1405376616;Azelphur;they perform various statistical analysis on their entire db 755681;1405376625;Azelphur;and draw all sorts of hilariously insulting conclusions 755682;1405376630;Azelphur;such as religious people have lower literacy levels 755683;1405376636;mircea_popescu;"The official blog of OkCupid.com. Shows trends and insights into it's online dating network." 755684;1405376637;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's still no thermonuke. eventually you have to dance in the flesh. 755685;1405376645;mircea_popescu;o look, the official ca'nt sp'eal. 755686;1405376659;Azelphur;hehe 755687;1405376664;mircea_popescu;am i do'ing it ri'ght ? 755688;1405376672;Azelphur;needs more apostrophe. 755689;1405376687;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's what rohypnol is for. 755690;1405376692;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: robert sheckley had a story ('50s) about a 'dating agency' that would tell you exactly what to do, through a hidden earphone. fellow puts it on, and gets really bored, because it turns out they also sell to the gurlz 755691;1405376711;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform was it "The Cyrano de Bergerac Memorial Dating Agency" ? 755692;1405376723;asciilifeform;lol 755693;1405376785;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's what the fuck us media does, anyway. buncha retarded kids who can't touch each other growing up, sitting around reading cracked and jezbel to figure out what to say to each other 755694;1405376907;mircea_popescu;"The basic currency of the Internet is human ignorance, and, frankly, our database holds a strong cash position!" 755695;1405376913;mircea_popescu;o ok Azelphur , i like them nao. 755696;1405376929;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: hahaha, I knew you would :P 755697;1405376979;mircea_popescu;"Okay, if you want to know... Will my date have sex on the first date? Ask... Do you like the taste of beer? Because... Among all our casual topics, whether someone likes the taste of beer is the single best predictor of if he or she has sex on the first date." 755698;1405376984;mircea_popescu;ok i fucking don't like them anymore. 755699;1405376994;mircea_popescu;to imagine the genders are idempotent in this line... holy shit. 755700;1405376999;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: why not? I thought that question was particularly hilarious 755701;1405377010;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'the average number of legs a customer has is...' 755702;1405377041;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: they don't imagine, they have the data to back up that it's fairly equal? 755703;1405377042;mircea_popescu;if you think a buncha fratbros being in denial about how shitty budlight is makes a good predictor for whether maryjane in sorority rush is likely to fuck you right now... 755704;1405377069;mircea_popescu;dude srsly. what data do they have showing it's equal, fairly or otherwise ? 755705;1405377101;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: because they ask users 1) Would you consider sleeping with someone on a first date, 2) What sex are you, 3) Do you like the taste of beer? 755706;1405377103;mircea_popescu;"Sadly, this is the only question with a meaningful correlation for women. For men there are a few others" << now i like them again. 755707;1405377107;Azelphur;given the answer to all 3, you have an answer xD 755708;1405377110;Azelphur;haha 755709;1405377129;mircea_popescu;dude i'm having an on again / off again relationship with okcupid and it's official bl'og. 755710;1405377135;Azelphur;xD 755711;1405377173;mircea_popescu;Azelphur you ever seen control ? 755712;1405377187;Azelphur;nope 755713;1405377219;mircea_popescu;it's a pretty decent film, bio of ian curtis. 755714;1405377230;mircea_popescu;i imagine you'd like it. 755715;1405377249;mircea_popescu;Q: Could you imagine yourself killing someone? << fuck me! this actually is to my knowledge the best predictor there is. 755716;1405377263;mircea_popescu;seems they not only figured this out, but also have a slightly better one. nuclear attack in certain light ? 755717;1405377272;mircea_popescu;impressive. 755718;1405377294;Azelphur;hehe 755719;1405377343;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/nJCH867F yay, 40% of people within 25 miles of me are plonkers. 755720;1405377344;assbot;[SQL] sqlite> SELECT count(*) FROM questions WHERE question LIKE "%STALE is to STEAL%" - Pastebin.com 755721;1405377397;mircea_popescu;o.O ?! 755722;1405377403;mircea_popescu;isn't that too fucking much ? 755723;1405377421;mircea_popescu;;;ud plonkers 755724;1405377422;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plonker | the term plonker started out as a reference to someone who was forever drunk on cheap wine (cheap wine is nicknamed plonk) this person was usualy a ... 755725;1405377440;Azelphur;nope, 145 users within 25 miles as me, 69 of them answered the question, 28 of them got it right 755726;1405377475;Azelphur;and amusingly I derped my statistic, so I myself am a plonker, it's 60% of people within 25 miles of me are plonkers. 755727;1405377506;mircea_popescu;If you want to know... Do my date and I have the same politics? Ask him or her... Do you prefer the people in your life to be simple or complex? Because... http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/first_date_questions/SimplicityComplexity.png 755728;1405377517;mircea_popescu;well now that's weird. i guess i'm 2:1 a liberal ? 755729;1405377590;ThickAsThieves;of the type of person that would fill out okcupid profiles 755730;1405377607;mircea_popescu;oh. 755731;1405377610;mircea_popescu;drat. 755732;1405377612;Azelphur;ThickAsThieves: well yea, true 755733;1405377620;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves do you have one ? 755734;1405377629;ThickAsThieves;not since like before facebook 755735;1405377681;mircea_popescu;http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/first_date_questions/MegaChart2.png << religion correlates with poor spelling and reading comprehension 755736;1405377689;mircea_popescu;for all religions not in (atheist, agnostic) 755737;1405377715;ThickAsThieves;buddhism transcends 755738;1405377740;mircea_popescu;mostly because a buncha cali fags and assorted antrepreneurs think it's chick. 755739;1405377742;mircea_popescu;chic* 755740;1405377765;ThickAsThieves;i met a smart yoga guy once 755741;1405377795;ThickAsThieves;actually no 755742;1405377798;ThickAsThieves;i didnt 755743;1405377839;mircea_popescu;davout http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/10charts/Frenchmen.png << it's official. they got the datas. 755744;1405377857;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i think yoga and budhism are different. 755745;1405377878;ThickAsThieves;so they say 755746;1405377889;ThickAsThieves;Secret, one of the many anonymous social networks that’s risen to prominence over the past six months, today announced a $25 million Series B round led by Index Ventures. 755747;1405377917;mircea_popescu;http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/10charts/AchievingWomenPurple.png this goes straight into my older http://trilema.com/2011/erotoghid-pentru-femeia-adulta/ 755748;1405377919;assbot;Erotoghid pentru femeia adulta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 755749;1405377921;ThickAsThieves;would a true buddhist have an okcupid profile? 755750;1405377929;mircea_popescu;;;google erotoghid 755751;1405377930;gribble;Fucking, a guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; I Suspect There Is More To This World, or A Story Of The ... - Trilema: ; Februarie 2011 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 755752;1405377954;mircea_popescu;bizarre. 755753;1405377959;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves why not ? 755754;1405377978;ThickAsThieves;takes women 20yrs to learn to orgasm? 755755;1405378027;ThickAsThieves;well buddhism is about removing desire, and, well, everything, no? 755756;1405378038;mircea_popescu;no ? 755757;1405378046;mircea_popescu;i think that's boreism. 755758;1405378050;ThickAsThieves;hehe 755759;1405378063;mircea_popescu;and i think women just about need 20 years to learn to orgasm, yes. 755760;1405378073;mircea_popescu;course you can cut that to six weeks iykwyd. 755761;1405378111;mircea_popescu;http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/10charts/VegetariansBright.png << dude srsly, that drastic ?! 755762;1405378174;ThickAsThieves;no comment 755763;1405378185;mircea_popescu;i don't know that many women that don't like sucking cock. 755764;1405378204;mircea_popescu;certainly more guys who (at least pretend) not to. 755765;1405378249;ThickAsThieves;where is the "Odds Someone Enjoys Getting Oral Sex?" 755766;1405378286;ThickAsThieves;then we can learn the puritanism factor 755767;1405378293;mircea_popescu;hm. 755768;1405378316;mircea_popescu;Frequent tweeters have shorter real-life relationships than everyone else, probably via some bit.ly hack. Unfortunately, we have no way to tell who's dumping who here; whether the twitterati are more annoying or just more flighty than everyone else. 755769;1405378330;mircea_popescu;i have an idea, just deliver add medicine with the whale. 755770;1405378394;mircea_popescu;and holy shit year and a half average relationships ?! what the fuck sense does that make, it's the uncanny valley of relationships. either a few good fucks for a coupla weeks or else years, who does this middle of the road bs ? 755771;1405378464;nubbins`;dudes who don't wanna deal with the 5 minutes of awkwardness it takes to break up with someone they're not really interested in 755772;1405378466;nubbins`;it's a thing, srsly 755773;1405378499;nubbins`;what else do you expect from a generation that deals with problems by ignoring them 755774;1405378579;dub;lol 755775;1405378585;dub;liek global warming? 755776;1405378611;nubbins`;well no, that's the previous generation 755777;1405378619;*;nubbins` thinks 755778;1405378622;nubbins`;this one too, though 755779;1405378661;benkay;this one realizes that there's nothing to be done subconsciously about physics. 755780;1405378668;benkay;feelings, though, are legislatable. 755781;1405378709;benkay;(generations, i mean) 755782;1405378743;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/a/S8cJz 755783;1405378744;assbot;Game Camera on Deer Gut Pile - Imgur 755784;1405378788;nubbins`;benkay: what's a war on drugs but a legislated range of feelings? 755785;1405378788;nubbins`;:D 755786;1405378797;mircea_popescu;dub people deal with the problem of global warming by giving the bums involved more money to do more "research" 755787;1405378843;nubbins`;http://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/2aokbz/guys_get_erections_every_morning_right_the/ 755788;1405378843;assbot;Guys get erections every morning, right? The concept of "morning" varies depending on where you live, with the "morning line" basically spinning around the earth infinitely, right? So does that mean that humanity has been doing a "boner wave" around the earth for hundreds of thousands of years? : Showerthoughts 755789;1405378882;mircea_popescu;im bashing that nubbins line 755790;1405378898;nubbins`;er which? 755791;1405378911;nubbins`;i have so many quotable quips that it's hard to keep track 755792;1405378942;benkay;nubbins`: no way man that's rent-seeking. 755793;1405378944;mircea_popescu;pretty cool eagles. 755794;1405378950;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the range o' feelings. 755795;1405378963;nubbins`;ah ah 755796;1405378975;nubbins`;srsly tho. war on unauthorized mental states 755797;1405378981;nubbins`;imagine such a thing 755798;1405378989;mike_c;oh man. bash is improving. there is some funny shit in there. 755799;1405378989;benkay;flip it 755800;1405378995;benkay;it's not a 'war' on anything. 755801;1405379001;mircea_popescu;mike_c ikr! 755802;1405379014;benkay;it's an outlawing of things to make work for the rent-seekers. 755803;1405379023;benkay;this employs head-knockers and jail-lockers. 755804;1405379025;mircea_popescu;benkay no, it's not a war. the way i see it, to keep a police force going you gotta give it some niggers to pick on. 755805;1405379030;mircea_popescu;otherwise, it becomes too expensive. 755806;1405379039;benkay;those exist anyways, man. 755807;1405379040;mike_c;i generally am disappointed when ninjashogun gets upped, but he is a gold mine. 755808;1405379046;mircea_popescu;and since the actual niggers are rioting... they moived to fags. those also rioted in the 50s 755809;1405379048;nubbins`;mike_c +1 755810;1405379050;mircea_popescu;so now it's pedos and bongheads 755811;1405379062;nubbins`;potheads don't riot 755812;1405379072;benkay;a reasonably sized constabulary could be had if its mandate were reasonable. 755813;1405379073;mircea_popescu;exactly. perfect fodder. 755814;1405379082;mircea_popescu;then again, that's what they said about fags, too. look into stonewall inn. 755815;1405379082;nubbins`;benkay: sounds like here 755816;1405379085;benkay;it's a massive constabulary though, and needs a massive mandate to keep it fat and busy. 755817;1405379091;nubbins`;mircea_popescu, v familiar 755818;1405379095;nubbins`;nobody riots until they do 755819;1405379096;mircea_popescu;benkay no, it could not. because you oculdn't motivate anyone to join it. 755820;1405379104;mircea_popescu;just like you can't have a sane corpus of teachers. 755821;1405379120;nubbins`;teaching and police work are for the daft or the dangerous 755822;1405379126;mircea_popescu;exactly. 755823;1405379139;mircea_popescu;if you can give them someone to shitface, then you can get the dangerous to be useful. 755824;1405379148;mircea_popescu;it all rests on this major question. 755825;1405379188;benkay;but must we have so many constables? 755826;1405379200;nubbins`;not initially 755827;1405379204;nubbins`;but once the ranks swell 755828;1405379210;nubbins`;it's harder to squeeze the dead air back out 755829;1405379229;mircea_popescu;benkay i kinda like being able to ask for directions. 755830;1405379244;benkay;what, you don't talk to regular humans for things like that? 755831;1405379249;mircea_popescu;also, idiots tend to think nothing they can't see exists. best way to keep compton in line is keeping cars on patrol. 755832;1405379267;mircea_popescu;they see a cop, the underdevelop part of their brain that regulates behaviour gets a jolt. 755833;1405379267;benkay;lol o compton's in line? 755834;1405379285;nubbins`;best way to keep this grease fire under control is to only let a little bit of oxygen at it 755835;1405379290;mircea_popescu;benkay sure. they got a gdp and everything. 755836;1405379302;benkay;so does mexico. 755837;1405379311;benkay;so does the usg, for that matter. 755838;1405379319;mircea_popescu;exactly. 755839;1405379354;mircea_popescu;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=195 << this made laugh a 2nd time 755840;1405379354;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 755841;1405379359;benkay;why not send robocop cars around? 755842;1405379375;benkay;all that part of the brain needs is the black and white, not the human behind the wheel. 755843;1405379391;mircea_popescu;im not so sure. 755844;1405379403;nubbins`;yeah 755845;1405379407;mircea_popescu;what was the film with that retard cop 755846;1405379407;nubbins`;haha i laughed at that one too 755847;1405379424;mircea_popescu;ends up involved with some cokehead, sister of tom cruise who's a total dudebro 755848;1405379430;nubbins`;BUT MOSTLY I'M A BITCOINER 755849;1405379456;mircea_popescu;a yes, magnolia. ever seen magnolia benkay ? 755850;1405379483;nubbins`;wait, she wasn't tom cruise's sister 755851;1405379487;nubbins`;in that movie 755852;1405379516;mircea_popescu;yah i got confused. 755853;1405379525;nubbins`;re: the retard cop (john c reilly), he's done some really bizarre comedy 755854;1405379528;nubbins`;like, really fucked 755855;1405379529;mircea_popescu;anyway. retarded cop, gets out of car, has interraction with rapper 12 yo black kid 755856;1405379533;mircea_popescu;that's the thing. 755857;1405379550;nubbins`;yeah 755858;1405379555;nubbins`;same kid that eventually finds his gun? 755859;1405379559;mircea_popescu;yeah. 755860;1405379562;nubbins`;nod 755861;1405379576;nubbins`;i was actually impressed by how much of a douchebag tom cruise's character was in that movie 755862;1405379582;mircea_popescu;anyway, i confess when i hear someone's a rapper, that kid is what i think about. 755863;1405379587;nubbins`;hahah 755864;1405379598;mircea_popescu;much like when i hear smeone's an entrepreneur, what i think about are the poor egyptian kids in luxor. 755865;1405379618;mircea_popescu;huddled around two 386 hooked into a dialup modem (cca 2004!), at the Luxor Center For Businessmen. 755866;1405379623;mircea_popescu;(dirt floors) 755867;1405379631;nubbins`;when i hear someone's a rapper, i think of reggie watts ;( 755868;1405379639;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdHK_r9RXTc 755869;1405379639;assbot;Reggie Watts disorients you in the most entertaining way - YouTube 755870;1405379694;mircea_popescu;jesus what a promising thing ted was, and what a smoldering shitpile it turned into. 755871;1405379711;mircea_popescu;all this because they refused to implement anti-inclusiveness, hierarchy, closedness, etc. 755872;1405379715;nubbins`;^ that video starts with the guy taking the piss out of every TED presenter ever 755873;1405379725;benkay;holy hell 755874;1405379729;benkay;lady v's father is going to burning man 755875;1405379732;nubbins`;it's pretty rich 755876;1405379775;benkay; a yes, magnolia. ever seen magnolia benkay ? // no sir 755877;1405379793;mircea_popescu;well it's a shitty movie, but i guess it makes this particular sidepoint well. 755878;1405379802;benkay;no but srsly the foxnews conservative gentleman is going to burning man 755879;1405379806;benkay;it must be over 755880;1405379814;benkay;what, 160k this year? 755881;1405379819;mircea_popescu;benkay it was over in 2007/2008 755882;1405379831;benkay;what, that recently? 755883;1405379840;mircea_popescu;pre-that, 80%+ of the chicks i knew states-side went 755884;1405379844;mircea_popescu;that year... like 1/3 755885;1405379853;mircea_popescu;maybe i'm biased cause age. 755886;1405379863;benkay;it's always over this year. 755887;1405379876;benkay;it's got it's own eternal september thing 755888;1405379885;mircea_popescu;now that may also be. 755889;1405379929;mircea_popescu;maybe your father in law is considering it's unfair you shoulda got the vixen, and wants to get a replacement. 755890;1405379961;benkay;yeah, sr. lady v's marbles are a bit scattered 755891;1405379962;mircea_popescu;"honey, i love you very much, but i just can't live without twentysomething yo cunt in the house" 755892;1405379996;benkay;i did cart her off to burning man and then demanded a dowry so you may be on to something there 755893;1405380017;benkay;(eternal september is also a poor joke about the dates of the thing in question) 755894;1405380103;benkay;hey last night i learned that gates sr, jr, and warran buffet indulged in an orgy while floating through some famously beautiful chinese water thing 755895;1405380108;benkay;warren* 755896;1405380156;danielpbarron;i think magnolia is a shaggy dog story 755897;1405380166;mircea_popescu;agreed 755898;1405380176;mircea_popescu;how long were you saving that expression ? 755899;1405380180;danielpbarron;which can be good.. but often aren't 755900;1405380196;danielpbarron;yeah no kidding; that one doesn't come up often 755901;1405380198;mircea_popescu;benkay what, with each other ? 755902;1405380208;benkay;details were...scant. 755903;1405380215;benkay;but who says they were the only ones, eh? 755904;1405380231;benkay;more reasonable assumption is a bevy of local sluts. 755905;1405380240;mircea_popescu;did this have anything to do with giving away money for forwarding omething ? 755906;1405380262;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> well it's a shitty movie, but i guess it makes this particular sidepoint well. /// everyone ive ever shown the movie too agrees with you, but it has this lingering impression 755907;1405380265;BingoBoingo;Forward this email to X people and old fucks invade your house for an orgy? 755908;1405380278;ThickAsThieves;probly just the direction 755909;1405380281;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo truth@lemonparty.org 755910;1405380296;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves imo it's mr. bookman that saves it. 755911;1405380320;mircea_popescu;also the fact they try so hard to re-do QT it's almost lulzy 755912;1405380447;BingoBoingo;I'm a lemon party truther. Lemon party is an Obama scheme to keep McCain out of the White House. 755913;1405380588;danielpbarron;good shaggy dog story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3JzMuvlMZM 755914;1405380588;assbot;A Real Shaggy Dog Story - YouTube 755915;1405380694;BingoBoingo;%t 755916;1405380695;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 278 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 1k High: 221 Low: 210 VWAP: 215 755917;1405380701;BingoBoingo;%ob 755918;1405380702;atcbot;45k@282 722@279 30k@278 | 249k@210 45k@201 117k@200 755919;1405380707;BingoBoingo;%d 755920;1405380708;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 521760.25 in 767 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -33.55 755921;1405381084;benkay;BingoBoingo: 420 was an inside jihad 755922;1405381675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1851 = 1.1106 BTC [-] {2} 755923;1405381742;nubbins`;;;google 420 carl sagan blaze it 755924;1405381743;gribble;420 Blaze It | Know Your Meme: ; An atheist fell 420 feet into a mountain crevasse. Thankfully he got it ...: ; Is Awesome GIFs on Giphy: 755925;1405381858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1851 = 0.5553 BTC [-] 755926;1405382029;thestringpuller;there needs to be a recruitahoodrat.com 755927;1405382097;thestringpuller;to /msg BingoBoingo ugh restaraunts. the sucky thing abouy finding good restaurants you have to go through the shitty ones first 755928;1405382109;thestringpuller;wow fone typing 755929;1405382112;thestringpuller;lol 755930;1405382237;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: there you go, I'm now oktrends, sort of. http://blog.azelphur.com/node/297 755931;1405382237;assbot;Okcupid shenanigans: General intelligence questions | Azelphur's Blog. 755932;1405382302;mircea_popescu;lol cool. 755933;1405382398;kakobrekla;wait werent you with some coder chick that was not after your money ? 755934;1405382409;Azelphur;kakobrekla: breakup a few months ago now :P 755935;1405382422;kakobrekla;so she was after the money ? 755936;1405382429;Azelphur;nah, never asked and never got 755937;1405382492;mircea_popescu;ok so, mpex report : the servers are built and racked. they have power. os installed. networking isn't working properly, clustering software being hammered into shape. 755938;1405382600;mircea_popescu;Azelphur you know nubbins can make you that shirt. 755939;1405382607;Azelphur;fun :) 755940;1405382616;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla she was after the big ding dongs. 755941;1405382637;kakobrekla;possibly. 755942;1405382794;mircea_popescu;skinny is deprecating ?! 755943;1405383053;mircea_popescu;ahahahaah okcupid blog links their competitor as sausageparty.com 755944;1405383147;benkay;the joys of private ownership. 755945;1405383255;mircea_popescu;ikr? 755946;1405383279;benkay;when does it make sense to do a public offering? as in - why would i ever do that? 755947;1405383364;mircea_popescu;would you fuck a stranger ? 755948;1405383652;mthreat;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ht9VZ9RB_w 755949;1405383652;assbot;When you fuck a stranger in the ass - YouTube 755950;1405383848;mircea_popescu;lol 755951;1405383871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18699994 = 0.935 BTC [+] {2} 755952;1405384298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.00282 = 0.6965 BTC [-] 755953;1405386944;benkay;but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex? 755954;1405387295;peterl;benkay: if you need more capital to grow, then you IPO to get an influx of cash 755955;1405387383;peterl;or if you want hookers and blow now instead of waiting patiently for your money? 755956;1405387468;benkay;but mike doesn't need capital 755957;1405387472;benkay;nor kakobrekla 755958;1405387485;benkay;(mike_c, that is) 755959;1405387515;benkay;is it a generous donation to the ecosystem? "here i made this thing and by my grace you can partake of its profits"? 755960;1405387521;mike_c;WoL does need capital. hence the loan from mpif 755961;1405387549;benkay;i clearly don't understand WoL in dpeth. 755962;1405387560;mike_c;join the club. i'm working on that. 755963;1405387623;peterl;you are saying there is nothing you could do with more money? 755964;1405387681;benkay;what does WoL need more capital for? seeding pots? 755965;1405387693;mike_c;minigames are bets against the house 755966;1405387711;benkay;rgr 755967;1405387717;peterl;so it is acting as a casino? 755968;1405387736;ThickAsThieves;of course not! 755969;1405387740;mike_c;don't be silly 755970;1405387747;mike_c;more like a cryptocurrency playground 755971;1405387762;ThickAsThieves;like a chuck e cheese 755972;1405387763;peterl;cryptocurrency casino? 755973;1405387791;mike_c;^ like TaT said. put your tokens in, get little tickets. 755974;1405387801;mike_c;redeem tickets for stuffed animals. 755975;1405387804;peterl;ah, no chance of getting money back? 755976;1405387813;mike_c;"money". you can get bitcoin back. 755977;1405387854;ThickAsThieves;blowstamps 755978;1405387868;mike_c;the irs explicitly said bitcoin isn't money 755979;1405387885;ThickAsThieves;well... 755980;1405387888;ThickAsThieves;irs doesnt get to decide 755981;1405387892;peterl;but bitcoin is what you put in 755982;1405387901;mike_c;bitcoin is what you put in. bitcoin is what you get out. 755983;1405387905;mike_c;or Altcoin! 755984;1405387914;peterl;so it looks like a casino 755985;1405387916;*;ThickAsThieves watches planes fly over peterl's head 755986;1405387924;mike_c;i think of it more as a playground. 755987;1405387959;peterl;and what are the buildings in vegas if not playgrounds too? 755988;1405388019;mike_c;WoL doesn't have any magicians 755989;1405388065;peterl;why not? that would make it more fun! 755990;1405388075;mike_c;it's true. i'll put it on the list 755991;1405388426;benkay; you are saying there is nothing you could do with more money? // riddle me this - what does bitbet do with the money? 755992;1405388496;peterl;I dunno exactly? Seed bets, buy advertising, maintain servers? 755993;1405388750;benkay;i wonder what kind of load bitbet supports. 755994;1405388759;benkay;hey kakobrekla can you clue us into the traffic bitbet's pushing? 755995;1405388769;mike_c;bitbet does nothing with the money. it's a zac 755996;1405388944;decimation;asciilifeform: re: 8-cat brigade: http://www.baltimoresun.com/explore/howard/news/ph-ll-cats-stray-20110706,0,6849157.story 755997;1405388945;assbot;Number of stray cats on the rise in Laurel and Prince George's County - baltimoresun.com 755998;1405388946;benkay;so then we come back to my question - why would an an0 company list publically? 755999;1405388967;mike_c;liquidity for the owners is a big reason 756000;1405388975;decimation;"According to Volack, most of the stray and wild cats in the city are usually spotted in backyards, and she sometimes gets resistance when she tries to trap the cats. "I've been trying my hardest to capture the strays and feral cats and kittens, but I have just as many people who don't want me to trap them as those who do."" 756001;1405388977;mike_c;and you mean zac 756002;1405388984;benkay;right, yes i do 756003;1405388985;mike_c;an0 = asset non-zero 756004;1405389093;benkay;so there's the answer i'm looking for - liquidity for the owners. 756005;1405389113;mike_c;that is one answer. another might have to do with mp's desire to build an ecosystem. but i'll leave that answer to him. 756006;1405389169;benkay; is it a generous donation to the ecosystem? "here i made this thing and by my grace you can partake of its profits"? 756007;1405389186;benkay;hey i'm learning 756008;1405389190;benkay;slowly, but... 756009;1405389219;mike_c;you are making me answer for him, which i am not qualified to do. but I would guess two things. 1) yes 2) mayhaps some people benefit from advancing the ecosystem. 756010;1405389242;benkay;the old "adoption" thing. 756011;1405389274;benkay;apologies, i didnt mean to imply that i was re-asking the question, more that i'd already guessed that was a reason. 756012;1405389343;peterl;benkay: so there's the answer i'm looking for - liquidity for the owners. << as I said, they want their hookers and blow now 756013;1405389372;decimation;I think there's a pent-up demand for bitcoin income 756014;1405389391;mike_c;why does bitcoin price go up? "adoption" seems a poor answer to me. to me it is because the value of the whole system actually increases. perhaps part of that value increase is due to having a more vibrant financial ecosystem. 756015;1405389393;decimation;seems to me that if you think you can grow your company with more investment, you find investors to grow it 756016;1405389653;decimation;lol http://www.abcbirds.org/newsandreports/releases/121121.html "Ear-tipped cats are feral cats that have been trapped, neutered, and then re-released. " 756017;1405389655;assbot;Prince Georges County Council Ignores Slaughter of Wildlife – Chooses Protection of Feral Cats 756018;1405389682;decimation;don't forget about the cats! they need equality too! 756019;1405389719;mike_c;ok testers, WoL just shipped websockets for the minigames. 756020;1405389738;mike_c;so plz find the bugs. 756021;1405389756;mike_c;;;later tell punkman you can lose your money faster now. minigames have websockets. 756022;1405389757;gribble;The operation succeeded. 756023;1405389832;mike_c;and direct opera bugs to /dev/null (just kidding kako) 756024;1405390477;mircea_popescu;!up chairforce1 756025;1405390510;mircea_popescu; but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex? << nobody's holding a gun to your head no ? 756026;1405390518;chairforce1;cool thanks 756027;1405390669;mircea_popescu;yw. who are you ? 756028;1405390699;benkay; but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex? << nobody's holding a gun to your head no ? // clearly. but why did bitbet list? 756029;1405390704;chairforce1;just a guy who likes bitcoin 756030;1405390711;benkay;!s chairforce1 756031;1405390712;assbot;102 results for 'chairforce1' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chairforce1 756032;1405390724;mircea_popescu;what srsly 756033;1405390728;chairforce1;there thats me 756034;1405390729;benkay;old man 756035;1405390732;benkay;memory going ;) 756036;1405390762;mircea_popescu;seems so. 756037;1405390773;benkay;those three days up in a row 756038;1405390880;mircea_popescu;why the existential q's anyway ? 756039;1405390900;mircea_popescu;it's like "why get married", "why make friends", "why eat a steak" or w/e. 756040;1405390929;benkay;what, listing on mpex tastes good? 756041;1405390942;benkay;it does, no q, but is that the sole roi? 756042;1405390958;benkay;mostly 'cause i'm a derpy young thing trying to not. lose. money. 756043;1405390974;mircea_popescu;existential questions are fundamentally broken because things that exist exist in an infinity of ways, whereas things that are represented are represented in a finite manner. 756044;1405390994;mircea_popescu;the existential question either exploits or bumbles into this fundamental problem. it can never have an actual answer, 756045;1405391007;mircea_popescu;much like you can't be delivered the notion of pear or the sadness of joseph. 756046;1405391098;benkay;well, you'll note the particular questions sprinkled in there. 756047;1405391119;mircea_popescu;i thought those were answered. 756048;1405391120;benkay;like - why did bitbet? 756049;1405391167;mircea_popescu;but in general : a listed company has some advantages, and some disadvantages. let's look into it. 756050;1405391174;mthreat;one reason to take investment, even if you could fund it out of your own pocket, is to offset risk from yourself to investors. 756051;1405391190;mircea_popescu;Capital : a listed company has more capital, and more ready access to capital. 756052;1405391208;mircea_popescu;Networking : for one thing, your investors are your best pr. 756053;1405391220;mircea_popescu;Scoring : you get to know how good you're doing, as a manger. 756054;1405391248;mircea_popescu;these also work together, like n+s : more people are paying attention, so it works like open source for your accounting, for instance. 756055;1405391274;mircea_popescu;it also has some disadvantages, such as a loss of control, or association with another party or whatever. 756056;1405391293;mircea_popescu;supposedly mpex manages to mitigate the drawbacks while supercharging the advnatages, 756057;1405391312;mircea_popescu;but this is really like the discussion of whether bitcoin or network difficulty are too high or too low or w/e. 756058;1405391399;mircea_popescu;a more practical approach is to look at "why do people get into the wot ?" and go from there. why do people finish highschool ? why do people go on to college ? should everyone with a hs diploma strive to go to college ? etc. 756059;1405391459;mike_c;mp also has a theory that listing prevents competition because they can just invest in you instead of building a copy. 756060;1405391495;benkay;very educational. thank you all. 756061;1405391523;mircea_popescu;this is in fact correct. if someone wants exposure to x market, with a company in x market listed his options are "invest or roll your own" 756062;1405391536;mircea_popescu;but without, his options are "roll your own". which is in fact often inefficient. 756063;1405391561;mircea_popescu;so yes, it IS a gift to the community. just, not in the sense you'd think. it's the sort of gift you're not at a loss for giving, like sharing music. 756064;1405391607;benkay;one'd only roll their own if the existing solution were such crap that it could easily be beat in the market. 756065;1405391615;mircea_popescu;or if they need it. 756066;1405391652;mircea_popescu;you know ? if you want to make whatsapp and there's no phone carrier, now what ? 756067;1405391653;decimation;it seems to me that there's a pent-up demand for income for those who are holders of bitcoin 756068;1405391733;mircea_popescu;decimation experience shows that approach is not only theoretically naive, but also actually leads to failure. 756069;1405391857;mircea_popescu;this okcupid stuff is a goldmine. "Another inquiry that had unexpected results: we asked 252,900 straight people have you ever had a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex?". men : 7% did and enjoyed it ; 6% did and didn't enjoy it ; 5% didn't but would like to try. women : 26% did and enjoy it ; 7% didn't enjoy it ; 18% would like to try it. 756070;1405391904;mircea_popescu;no mention of age, but I am ready to take a bet that your average highschool today is half-bi, half bi-curious gals. 756071;1405391956;mircea_popescu;http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/gaystraight/HeatMap.png << also canada has been renamed gaynada nao. 756072;1405392074;decimation;I guess I was thinking of reasons why "the public" would bother to invest in a publically available stock. 756073;1405392099;mircea_popescu;you mean what, fiat ? or small btc holders ? 756074;1405392165;thestringpuller;what's that a heat map of? 756075;1405392171;mircea_popescu;gayness. 756076;1405392177;mircea_popescu;red is most gay. 756077;1405392191;mircea_popescu;( http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/ sauce) 756078;1405392192;assbot;Gay Sex vs. Straight Sex « OkTrends 756079;1405392209;danielpbarron;there are no gays in mexico apparently 756080;1405392212;decimation;small btc holders, looking for income 756081;1405392215;danielpbarron;they must have the same policy as iran 756082;1405392239;mircea_popescu;http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/gaystraight/WhichIsBiggerCredit.png << womenz are smarts. 756083;1405392258;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron this is false, i personally had drinks with a bunch of openly gay people there. 756084;1405392271;mircea_popescu;o lol you went by map. i think they just didn't fill it in 756085;1405392277;danielpbarron;hehe 756086;1405392329;decimation;!up chairforce1 756087;1405392457;mircea_popescu;wtf is "the l word" 756088;1405392497;danielpbarron;the show or the word? either way it's about lesbians 756089;1405392501;decimation;probably this http://www.sho.com/sho/the-l-word/home 756090;1405392503;assbot;Showtime : The L Word : Home 756091;1405392519;danielpbarron;it's basically porn but with much more dialog 756092;1405392547;mircea_popescu;oh i c 756093;1405392563;chairforce1;thanks decimation 756094;1405392618;asciilifeform;from the lolfarms: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/nsa-jtrigall-intercept-14-0714.pdf 756095;1405392656;mircea_popescu;We selected 526,000 OkCupid users at random and divided them into groups by their (self-stated) race. We then took all these people's profile essays (280 million words in total!) << ok this makes me fucking curious. 756096;1405392791;asciilifeform;^ tldr: massive catalogue of usg... spam tools. 756097;1405392857;decimation;ultimately the usg depends on "likes" in the polling booth, right? 756098;1405392880;asciilifeform;the 'ddos mpex' script is probably in there. 756099;1405392938;asciilifeform;'swamp donkey' << lol! apparently a usg version of 'cryptolocker' 756100;1405392964;mircea_popescu;decimation how ? 756101;1405392995;decimation;well, I'm thinking of "likes" of its foreign policy 756102;1405393044;asciilifeform;'quincy... exploitation of seized media' << another mega-lol 756103;1405393110;asciilifeform;'nevis... is a tool developed by NTAC to search disk images for possible Encryption products. CMA have further developed this tool to look for signs of Steganography' 756104;1405393139;asciilifeform;this reminds me of a story 756105;1405393197;mircea_popescu;is it good ? 756106;1405393207;decimation;I wonder why usg & hmg bother to pay "spies" to ... secretly watch ebay auctions 756107;1405393227;asciilifeform;one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives! 756108;1405393253;asciilifeform;me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me. 756109;1405393331;asciilifeform;so now we see that these (likely same, but usg never commissions just one turd of a particular variety) idiots did indeed crap out something like a $1B version of 'ida hexray.' 756110;1405393496;mircea_popescu;lol 756111;1405393508;asciilifeform;this is the most riotously funny nsa turd yet. 756112;1405393510;asciilifeform;bar none. 756113;1405393530;mircea_popescu;enjoyment is the mind killer. 756114;1405393541;chairforce1;im out, thanks for the ups 756115;1405393692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 660 @ 0.00275057 = 1.8154 BTC [-] {7} 756116;1405393930;decimation;asciilifeform: http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html < educational for a python programmer like me 756117;1405394180;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.03507553 = 0.5261 BTC [-] {8} 756118;1405395217;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 238 @ 0.00281994 = 0.6711 BTC [-] {3} 756119;1405395400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.18023998 = 17.1228 BTC [-] {13} 756120;1405399731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1774593 = 0.7098 BTC [-] {4} 756121;1405403086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 900 @ 0.00270404 = 2.4336 BTC [-] {13} 756122;1405406990;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.17085641 = 2.9046 BTC [-] {6} 756123;1405407051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.16583334 = 0.995 BTC [-] {2} 756124;1405408454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00170604 = 0.853 BTC [-] {4} 756125;1405414981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.01630197 = 0.6521 BTC [+] {5} 756126;1405421874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 575 @ 0.003 = 1.725 BTC [-] {10} 756127;1405432377;danielpbarron;yay!! 756128;1405432379;mircea_popescu;lmao 756129;1405432465;mircea_popescu;!up fluffypony 756130;1405432469;mircea_popescu;lol 756131;1405432475;pankkake;!up fluffypony 756132;1405432477;fluffypony;tks 756133;1405432482;fluffypony;still need to eauth 756134;1405432500;mircea_popescu;fluffypony so not that terribly interesting, the sort of "i've done google research from the us" article. 756135;1405432558;fluffypony;I can't even remember which article it was 756136;1405432562;fluffypony;slow brain day 756137;1405432586;mircea_popescu;http://www.singularityisnear.co/bitcoins/bitcoin-industry-thrives-in-argentina 756138;1405432587;assbot;Bitcoin industry thrives in Argentina. "A new safe haven". - Singularityisnear 756139;1405432592;fluffypony;ah yes 756140;1405432608;mircea_popescu;dumb shit like "counting sites" and doing site per million inhabitants comparisons 756141;1405432613;mircea_popescu;as if that fucking makes any difference. 756142;1405432621;fluffypony;heh heh 756143;1405432627;fluffypony;Internet marketing types :-P 756144;1405432768;mircea_popescu;http://btcclicks.com/ads << look at these fuckwits jesus god. 756145;1405432768;assbot;Surf Advertisements | BTC Clicks | Earn Bitcoins - Bitcoin Advertising - Bitcoin PTC 756146;1405432777;mircea_popescu;so a) they advertise in google, paying top dollar (1st result) 756147;1405432787;mircea_popescu;b) they run the dumbass iframe model 756148;1405432803;mircea_popescu;c) their publishers include luminaries such as "fair ponzi" 756149;1405432815;mircea_popescu;d) they... actually... run A DIFFERENT AD NETWORK in their dash. 756150;1405436315;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/alansilbert/status/489059224349978624 756151;1405436331;bitcoinpete;"@jgarzik Jeff, is there a dumbed-down explanation somewhere of how to set up a node?" 756152;1405436419;danielpbarron;dummies shouldn't run nodes 756153;1405436486;bitcoinpete;just linked him pankkake's article on running a remote one 756154;1405436506;pankkake;I should test it before :p 756155;1405436529;pankkake;I'm not sure debian runs it by default 756156;1405436549;bitcoinpete;lol 756157;1405436570;bitcoinpete;hurry! before the veecees break something! 756158;1405436595;bitcoinpete;dood already fav'd my tweet! 756159;1405436684;bitcoinpete;lol bitstein told alan silbert to download the core client and… run it. 756160;1405436707;bitcoinpete;alan's all: "Thanks Michael. Now I feel really dumb to have not found that easier. Thx!" 756161;1405436801;fluffypony;yeah 756162;1405436943;bitcoinpete;so mr fluffypony when can we look forward to reading your tales of baltic adventures? 756163;1405436952;pankkake;is that the guy who bought all the coins? 756164;1405436964;pankkake;quick, send him some forum IPOs 756165;1405436985;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: this week, hopefully, been insanely busy 756166;1405437056;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: what's keeping you occupied? 756167;1405437076;bitcoinpete;pankkake: the silberts tried to buy the sr coins and… failed 756168;1405437083;bitcoinpete;tim draper took 'em all down 756169;1405437091;bitcoinpete;heya bitstein 756170;1405437113;bitcoinpete;we were just mentioning you vis-a-vis silbert's node 756171;1405437131;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: had lots of catch-up work to do, missed a group exco meeting whilst I was away 756172;1405437163;fluffypony;and then we're tendering for a sales office on an estate on the Garden Route that has tons of holiday homes for rent 756173;1405437170;bitstein;hey bitcoinpete 756174;1405437181;fluffypony;so there's a ton of work on that to finalise before the 25th 756175;1405437276;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: a i c 756176;1405437298;bitcoinpete;bitstein: what's good? 756177;1405437339;bitcoinpete;"With apologies to both F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway, it seems the rich are not only different than you and me; they also have even more money than we previously thought." << que bueno! 756178;1405437349;bitstein;started the homestretch of school yesterday 756179;1405437363;bitcoinpete;http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-15/the-rich-are-even-richer 756180;1405437364;assbot;The Rich Are Even Richer - Bloomberg View 756181;1405437374;bitcoinpete;bitstein: atta boy 756182;1405437430;bitstein;yourself? 756183;1405437496;bitcoinpete;can't complain really 756184;1405437646;bitcoinpete;"BRICS -- are due to approve the creation of a new currency reserve fund and development bank at their summit in Brazil, which starts today." 756185;1405437672;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: get them to use bitcoin ;) 756186;1405437680;fluffypony;that's the idea ;) 756187;1405437766;bitcoinpete;brazil is having all the funz this summer 756188;1405437951;nubbins`;got this email from our t-shirt supplier today 756189;1405437957;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/WO0zFLb 756190;1405437957;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 756191;1405437975;nubbins`;HEY GUYS HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON A GIRL 756192;1405437982;nubbins`;SO YOU CAN SHOW YOUR CUSTOMERS 756193;1405438154;fluffypony;hah hah 756194;1405438174;fluffypony;"skunk and her gay best friend" 756195;1405438177;fluffypony;skank 756196;1405438189;fluffypony;or maybe skunk 756197;1405438225;mircea_popescu;!up non2 756198;1405438229;mircea_popescu;!up bitstein 756199;1405438231;nubbins`;seriously, what am i supposed to do with that image 756200;1405438300;mircea_popescu;!up non2 756201;1405438306;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: add them to the20year's posters? 756202;1405438340;mircea_popescu;nubbins` that girl doesn't eat does she. 756203;1405438366;bitstein;mircea_popescu: I found you extending the highest praise to me and my crew just days before I joined #b-a: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2014#644307 756204;1405438367;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 756205;1405438392;nubbins`;maybe she eats t-shirts 756206;1405438418;nubbins`;same style shirt, different company: 756207;1405438421;nubbins`;http://i.americanapparel.net/storefront/photos/zoom/serve.asp?media=bb453w_White_KellyGreen.jpg&r=us1 756208;1405438440;mircea_popescu;bitstein reading the log pays huh 756209;1405438454;ThickAsThieves;tshirt companies are all about teh sex now huh 756210;1405438485;mircea_popescu;what exactly is the point of tshirts aside from easy access to tits ? 756211;1405438486;nubbins`;gildan is still pretty corny 756212;1405438495;nubbins`;mp, they're so comfy ;( 756213;1405438557;mircea_popescu;wifebeaters are comfier no ? 756214;1405438584;nubbins`;nah, ribbed plus seams are bigger 756215;1405438608;nubbins`;a nice soft t-shirt is like being draped in jersey-knit bedsheets 756216;1405438646;mircea_popescu;uh 756217;1405438646;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: but womenz *hate* wifebeaters 756218;1405438656;mircea_popescu;they do ?! 756219;1405438666;*;nubbins` nods 756220;1405438667;mircea_popescu;maybe if they have small boobs and ugly tattoos 756221;1405438669;bitcoinpete;the clothing more than the type of dood 756222;1405438670;nubbins`;they're pretty greasy 756223;1405438684;bitcoinpete;men love the airy pits 756224;1405438693;bitcoinpete;women just… don't grok 756225;1405438731;nubbins`;well, the problem is that men who wear them are generally slobs 756226;1405438743;nubbins`;and nobody wants to see a slob's gross yellow armpits 756227;1405438786;bitcoinpete;the slob angle is a point 756228;1405438793;bitcoinpete;it's no 3-piece 756229;1405438805;*;mircea_popescu actually wears a button down shirt. 756230;1405438816;nubbins`;take a well-kempt person in one, and sure. looks fine. but then, most things do 756231;1405438835;nubbins`;(well-kempt!) 756232;1405438846;mircea_popescu;mein kempt! 756233;1405438847;nubbins`;lel 756234;1405438997;nubbins`;ah, google has added btc to their currency converter 756235;1405439002;nubbins`;;;google 1btc in cad 756236;1405439002;gribble;Convert Bitcoins (BTC) and Canadian Dollars (CAD): Currency ...: ; CAD - Preev: ; Bitcoin Exchange Rate - $670.15 CAD - bitcoinexchangerate.org: 756237;1405439010;nubbins`;wait, right, doesn't work like that 756238;1405439044;bitcoinpete;they're saying 673 756239;1405439045;bitcoinpete;neat 756240;1405439045;nubbins`;anyway. wonder where they're getting their prices from 756241;1405439049;fluffypony;;;google convert 1 btc to zar 756242;1405439050;gribble;Bitcoin to South African Rand Rate — Bitcoin Live Converter — Preev: ; Bitcoin Exchange Rate - 6663.292 ZAR - bitcoinexchangerate.org: ; 1 Bitcoin to South African Rand, 1 BTC to ZAR Currency Converter: 756243;1405439068;nubbins`;you gotta actually type it into google.com ;( 756244;1405439075;fluffypony;yeah 756245;1405439075;fluffypony;sucks 756246;1405439094;mircea_popescu;1 Bitcoin equals 666 Canadian Dollar 756247;1405439098;mircea_popescu;omg end of daez 756248;1405439126;nubbins`;https://www.google.ca/#q=1btc+in+zar 756249;1405439126;assbot;Google 756250;1405439192;bitcoinpete;heh google doesn't even do that for gold 756251;1405439198;bitcoinpete;what is bitcoin, money nao? 756252;1405439228;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is cool. 756253;1405439317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00272161 = 0.8165 BTC [-] {10} 756254;1405439328;mircea_popescu;so do we have any adwords specialists in our midst ? 756255;1405439494;mircea_popescu;http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/15/portugal-bes-rioforte-idUKL6N0PQ41920140715 756256;1405439495;assbot;Rioforte prepares to file for creditor protection| Reuters 756257;1405439517;mircea_popescu;portugal is so gutted... 756258;1405439622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.0026513 = 2.6513 BTC [-] {9} 756259;1405439711;nubbins`;http://youtu.be/0gKWfvd-chA?t=2m39s 756260;1405439712;assbot;EHX Reggie Watts explores the new 45000 multi-track looping recorder - YouTube 756261;1405439720;nubbins`;amazing 756262;1405439720;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 756263;1405439927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.01659994 = 0.664 BTC [-] {4} 756264;1405439988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79080888 BTC to 12`347 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 756265;1405440013;ThickAsThieves;<@mircea_popescu> so do we have any adwords specialists in our midst ? /// I've notable experience, if not somewhat dated 756266;1405440110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 2.99981269 BTC to 152`507 shares, 1967 satoshi per share 756267;1405440232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.36579792 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1684 satoshi per share 756268;1405440232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 46 @ 0.01679889 = 0.7727 BTC [+] {2} 756269;1405440240;mircea_popescu;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/10965887/People-who-claim-to-worry-about-climate-change-use-more-electricity.html 756270;1405440240;assbot;People who claim to worry about climate change use more electricity - Telegraph 756271;1405440382;kakobrekla;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/15/vagina-selfie-for-3d-printers-lands-japanese-artist-in-trouble 756272;1405440382;assbot;Vagina selfie for 3D printers lands Japanese artist in trouble | World news | theguardian.com 756273;1405440404;danielpbarron;obviously they use more electricity! they can't use coal or gas! 756274;1405440426;danielpbarron;how do i make a tounge-in-cheek emoticon? 756275;1405440445;nubbins`;try using a lower-case p 756276;1405440462;ThickAsThieves;japanese poon is upside down 756277;1405440463;ThickAsThieves;? 756278;1405440471;mircea_popescu;depends 756279;1405440481;mircea_popescu;if she;s being fingertrapped, not usually. 756280;1405440533;pankkake;this matches the people I know - and not only electricity 756281;1405440543;danielpbarron;lol she's got her "i'm making art" hat on 756282;1405440600;mircea_popescu;"Last month it took more than 20 firefighters to free a US student who had become trapped inside a giant sculpture of a vagina in Germany." 756283;1405440607;mircea_popescu;now we know how many muricans it takes to fill a cunt. 756284;1405440981;mircea_popescu;http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/enhanced/webdr06/7/5/enhanced-buzz-wide-2242-1396863916-10.jpg 756285;1405441641;BigBitz;mircea_popescu I thought you'd have a beard/shorter hair. 756286;1405441670;mircea_popescu;actually i do have a beard. 756287;1405441814;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11gyD9cf5o check out these derps 756288;1405441814;assbot;PAX East 2011 Triple Threat: The Origin of Dudebro - YouTube 756289;1405442482;ThickAsThieves;network broke 1 yottahash 756290;1405442486;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 756291;1405442487;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 17567924696.2 based on data since last change | 17552028821.8 based on data for last three days 756292;1405442491;ThickAsThieves;;;nethash 756293;1405442492;gribble;125644233.459 756294;1405442508;ThickAsThieves;;;estimate 756295;1405442509;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 17567924696.2 based on data since last change | 17552028821.8 based on data for last three days 756296;1405442510;ThickAsThieves;oops 756297;1405442513;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 756298;1405442516;gribble;Current Blocks: 310863 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1616 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 28 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17567924696.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.33597 756299;1405442541;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/15/why-list-on-mpex/ 756300;1405442549;ThickAsThieves;it's actually leveling off huh 756301;1405442559;bitcoinpete;seems to be 756302;1405442562;ThickAsThieves;bitcoins bout to get spensive 756303;1405442583;mircea_popescu;prolly. 756304;1405442613;bitcoinpete;how's that logic figure? 756305;1405442633;ThickAsThieves;well miners already paid for their shit 756306;1405442640;ThickAsThieves;they dont turn it off, they sell higher 756307;1405442660;bitcoinpete;a ok 756308;1405442667;ThickAsThieves;mining adds like what 3500 coins each day? 756309;1405442692;mircea_popescu;;;calc 3600*24/512*25 756310;1405442692;gribble;4218.75 756311;1405442944;Xplosionist;;;calc 6*24*25 756312;1405442944;gribble;3600 756313;1405442976;Xplosionist;mircea_popescu: Where did you get your numbers? I just did "6 per hour", which is of course only the theory, not the reality. 756314;1405442989;mircea_popescu;Xplosionist it's a joke. atc has 512 second blocks. 756315;1405443034;Xplosionist;mircea_popescu: Okay. I just "didn't get it". ;-) 756316;1405443138;mircea_popescu;!up Rassah 756317;1405443152;Rassah;Heard you guys were talking about us in here :) 756318;1405443162;mircea_popescu;so i am listening to this limp bizkit thing. is it like some sort of wannabe offspring, 20 years later ? 756319;1405443168;mircea_popescu;Rassah who's us ? 756320;1405443180;Rassah;Mycelium 756321;1405443188;mircea_popescu;!s mycelium 756322;1405443189;assbot;23 results for 'mycelium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mycelium 756323;1405443195;Rassah;specifically kickstarter projects, Entropy, etc. 756324;1405443221;mircea_popescu;kickstarter projects are common lulz fuel here ya 756325;1405443226;Rassah;!s Entropy 756326;1405443227;assbot;168 results for 'Entropy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Entropy 756327;1405443235;bitcoinpete;so are "entropy generators" 756328;1405443239;mircea_popescu;that's prolly mostly the physical concept. 756329;1405443241;bitcoinpete;hey Rassah 756330;1405443248;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot Rassah 756331;1405443248;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Rassah | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rassah | Rated since: Fri Jun 3 23:49:22 2011 756332;1405443255;Rassah;Hey bitcoinpete 756333;1405443256;ThickAsThieves;even newegg is bullish http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/14-3631/images/imgs/hero1.jpg 756334;1405443259;mircea_popescu;;;rate Rassah 1 Old timer. 756335;1405443261;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Rassah has been recorded. 756336;1405443281;mircea_popescu;Rassah you can self voice, pm assbot !up if id'd with gribble 756337;1405443295;bitcoinpete;Rassah: neat rating comment from theymos "Holds BTC for the forum." 756338;1405443330;Rassah;yes. I'm one of the 7 or so treasurers... 756339;1405443395;ThickAsThieves;Leprechauns exist! 756340;1405443443;mircea_popescu;http://www.grimoireassemblyforge.com/dudebro2/site/ << apparently this is going to be a scroller. 756341;1405443444;assbot;Dudebro II 756342;1405443474;ThickAsThieves;http://imgur.com/a/Yhgvm 756343;1405443474;assbot;Bitcoin Graphics - Imgur 756344;1405443527;rithm;7 treasurers! 756345;1405443584;Rassah;Woah. I haven't authenticated in over a year. Shows how often I visit IRC :p 756346;1405443679;ThickAsThieves;"Realcoin, therefore, represents an opportunity to speculate with fiat currency for the first time. If you have reason to believe its price will move for or against a digital currency on the market, now you can take advantage of that. " 756347;1405443713;fluffypony;ugh gross 756348;1405443764;ThickAsThieves;guys it will be so awesome to be able to speculate on digital currency! 756349;1405443767;Rassah;Although I support Realcoin, that statement is a bit... reduntant? Useless? Price moves for or against relative to something else, so instead of using Realcoin, you can just as easily use that something else... 756350;1405443786;ThickAsThieves;why do you support it? 756351;1405443797;ThickAsThieves;what does it really bring to the table? 756352;1405443802;mircea_popescu;Rassah the statement is typical of a desperate play for relevancy coming out of the sort of idiots that imagine claims matter. 756353;1405443802;ThickAsThieves;a ripple alternative? 756354;1405443806;fluffypony;nothing 756355;1405443843;Rassah;A dollar that trades directly on the bitcoin blockchain, allowing for atomic exchanges between bicoin and dollar-value asset 756356;1405443868;Rassah;I have doubts that banks and US reglators will allow it to happen though... but Brock does have some influence 756357;1405443874;ThickAsThieves;you mean exchange like already happen on Bitstamp etc? 756358;1405443877;ThickAsThieves;happens 756359;1405443894;Rassah;No, I mean exchage that happens on #bitcoin-otc, but without need for escrow 756360;1405443898;ThickAsThieves;i put dollars in, i get bitstampdollars 756361;1405443917;ThickAsThieves;oh so you mean launderable dollars? 756362;1405443921;mircea_popescu;Rassah what do you mean "without the need for escrow" lol. 756363;1405443985;Rassah;#bitcoin-otc: you send a promise of dollars, the seller escrows bitcoins. Dollars take time to get to the seller. Once they do, escrow releases coins to the buyer. 756364;1405444009;ThickAsThieves;so with escrow 756365;1405444028;Rassah;Realcoin: you agree to a trade with a bicoin sellet. You create a ransaction that trades one of the other. The trade is signed and happens at the same time 756366;1405444029;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel 756367;1405444041;mircea_popescu;it's nonsense on a fucking stick, bitcoin and fiat still have different hardness. 756368;1405444043;Rassah;sorry about missing keys and typos. 756369;1405444049;mircea_popescu;i can clawback any usd anywhere by simply sueing. 756370;1405444060;mircea_popescu;this is why people don't btc to paypal directly, and haven't, since 2011. 756371;1405444071;Rassah;How can you clawback digital currency? 756372;1405444090;mircea_popescu;the fact that B. Fucktard P. wasn't here in 2011, because he was too busy blowing 13year olds in back alleys 756373;1405444098;mircea_popescu;doesn't mean he's excused from reading the 2011 logs. 756374;1405444103;mircea_popescu;on the contrary : he has to read them twice. 756375;1405444127;mircea_popescu;Rassah fiat does not become "digital currency" just because you'd like it to. 756376;1405444130;ThickAsThieves;the logs are like chapters of the book they get punished to read in Anathem 756377;1405444141;Rassah;I'm assuming that cryptocurrency that exists on Mastercin is transfered with private key signatures, and is permanent and complete upon transfer, same as every other cryptocurrency. No chargebacks 756378;1405444145;ThickAsThieves;they gave you 6 chapters!? 756379;1405444152;mircea_popescu;Rassah how do i get my actual dollars ? 756380;1405444153;ThickAsThieves;:) 756381;1405444222;Rassah;According to Brock, initially trough his own bank/exchange, and hopefully eventually through whatever banks support his system. So maybe yours. Since banks make money by charging fees to transfer money around, it may be difficult to convince them to add a system that lets them transfer their own dollars for little to no fee though 756382;1405444232;ThickAsThieves;the only difference between realcoin and bitstampdollar is you dont have to use bitstamp to trade it, but you still need realcoin to render those dollars eventually 756383;1405444259;mircea_popescu;Rassah so i sue his "bank/exchange", have its accounts locked. 756384;1405444262;Rassah;There's is another difference. Bitstant desn't have the resources, or even interest, in getting their Bitstamp dollars used by other banks 756385;1405444264;mircea_popescu;what happened to the "escrow" now ? 756386;1405444295;Rassah;*Bitstamp... >.< 756387;1405444316;ThickAsThieves;but what bank would ever want bitstampdollars? 756388;1405444317;Rassah;So, has it been long settled that we don't need a distributed exchange? I missed that memo... 756389;1405444331;mircea_popescu;Rassah you've missed a lot of things. 756390;1405444332;nubbins`;i like it when i tell people their artwork isn't big enough, and they just scale it up in photoshop 756391;1405444333;Rassah;ThickAsThieves: That's kind of my point too 756392;1405444343;danielpbarron;realcoin is not relevant in a post-fiat world; why even waste time on such a notion that only solves the "problem" of mass adoption 756393;1405444385;Rassah;From the way he described it, I think he only wants it to be a temporary stepping stone to make USD to BTC transition easer, and doesn't expect it to last very long 756394;1405444394;danielpbarron;if I think BTC is about to go down, I have local associates who would probably buy it off me today 756395;1405444409;ThickAsThieves;nubbins` http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/resize8/ I remember back in like 2001 using this to battle such idiocy 756396;1405444410;assbot;Perfect Resize 8 - onOne Software 756397;1405444418;ThickAsThieves;it took forever to process! 756398;1405444427;ThickAsThieves;uses fractals 756399;1405444433;Rassah;Mircea, care to fill me in on other thins I've missed? The "we don't need distributed xchanges ay more" is surprising considering MtGox died just 6 months ago, and BTC-e is questionable 756400;1405444437;danielpbarron;Rassah, right; my point exactly.. you can't force Bitcoin addoption; the common man will use Bitcoin when he is FORCED TO by the new economic reality 756401;1405444473;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla can bitbet search also have order by weight added ? 756402;1405444473;ThickAsThieves;rassah, you can't remove trust from the sytem, you can only move it to where you prefer 756403;1405444516;mircea_popescu;Rassah well, i linked you to the log. thing is, this right here is the hot core of btc. you will have to simply read the logs. 756404;1405444525;Rassah;ThickAsThieves: Trust in large regulated and audited body, supported by and in partnership with numerous banks > trust in some anonymous stranger on the internet 756405;1405444534;mircea_popescu;that'd be wrong, actually. 756406;1405444547;mircea_popescu;trust in government < any alternative < people < otc people. 756407;1405444568;Rassah;that's true too 756408;1405444580;mircea_popescu;there can't be a too in there. 756409;1405444585;mircea_popescu;they're contradictory. 756410;1405444606;mircea_popescu;the large audited regulated body === government. 756411;1405444636;Rassah;otc with 50+ ratings V.S. bank with licenses and audits? (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40) 756412;1405444650;princessnell;Rassah, this might help: http://theumlaut.com/2014/06/10/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains/ 756413;1405444650;assbot;Bitcoin Is Great, But It Won’t Fix Our Monkey Brains | The mlaut 756414;1405444681;Rassah;I would trust an established banking institution more than an OTC trader with 2 or 3 ratings. I would trust an established OTC trader more than a bank 756415;1405444698;Rassah;it's not black and wite 756416;1405444752;mircea_popescu;this simply shows you're not well connected, and so mcdonalds level services (ie, bare minimum) are the best you see yourself aspiring to. 756417;1405444775;mircea_popescu;had you spend the past year or w/e cultivating irc, instead of wasting time on forums/skype/etc, you'd be in the position of lolling at the notion of a fiat bank. 756418;1405444809;Rassah;I'm pretty well connected. Just not on IRC :) 756419;1405444820;mircea_popescu;then you're not well connected. 756420;1405444823;Rassah;Most of the people I'm connected with don't have time for it. 756421;1405444836;mircea_popescu;this is just another way of saying they don't matter, you're aware. 756422;1405444840;Rassah;princessnell: love your nick btw 756423;1405444844;danielpbarron;Rassah, i think this is relevant http://trilema.com/2012/fact-of-the-matter-is-the-infrastructure-was-not-ready/ 756424;1405444846;assbot;Fact of the matter is, the infrastructure was not ready pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 756425;1405444847;ThickAsThieves;or that they are poor 756426;1405444882;Rassah;Oh. You're all millionaires here?... 756427;1405444887;mircea_popescu;nope. 756428;1405444890;mircea_popescu;some are billionaires. 756429;1405444896;mircea_popescu;and we also got some camhos. 756430;1405444920;*;danielpbarron is one of the elite few with > 1 BTC 756431;1405445010;ThickAsThieves;mycelium is doing well though, right? 756432;1405445024;mircea_popescu;i can't recall what that does. 756433;1405445032;ThickAsThieves;altwallet 756434;1405445034;ThickAsThieves;well 756435;1405445037;ThickAsThieves;bitcoin wallet 756436;1405445037;mircea_popescu;o. 756437;1405445039;ThickAsThieves;but yknow 756438;1405445061;ThickAsThieves;they did a trippy promo vid too 756439;1405445071;mircea_popescu;Rassah so whats the uvp there, convenience or something ? 756440;1405445079;mircea_popescu;!up chetty 756441;1405445085;ThickAsThieves;"We help people and companies 756442;1405445085;ThickAsThieves;to store, transfer and exchange value. 756443;1405445085;ThickAsThieves;Seamlessly, without numerous middlemen cutting off a big chunk 756444;1405445085;ThickAsThieves;of our profits and savings. It's our money, let's keep it simple." 756445;1405445085;Rassah;uvp? 756446;1405445089;ThickAsThieves;says mycelium 756447;1405445094;chetty;hey, ty MP 756448;1405445116;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoincard, wasnt that a Gox thing? 756449;1405445120;ThickAsThieves;https://mycelium.com/ 756450;1405445120;assbot;Home :: Mycelium 756451;1405445123;Rassah;Not at all 756452;1405445142;chetty; Oh. You're all millionaires here?... whats a millionaire? why is stuff being measured in dollars? 756453;1405445142;mircea_popescu;Rassah unique value proposition. 756454;1405445147;ThickAsThieves;i recall them having a credit card gizmo with buttons on it 756455;1405445152;ThickAsThieves;maybe it was justa 2fa 756456;1405445171;Rassah;Bitcoincard started as a mesh network based idea for a text messaging device. Then the gy who was developing it found out that it's perfect for a bitcoin wallet, ad switched directions, forming Mycelium 756457;1405445171;ThickAsThieves;chetty indeed! 756458;1405445173;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves o you actually tested this ? 756459;1405445191;ThickAsThieves;tested mycelium? i think i installed it somewhere 756460;1405445197;ThickAsThieves;havent really used it tho 756461;1405445204;Rassah;What's the UVP of what? Mycelium wallet? 756462;1405445219;mircea_popescu;Rassah so it's a half-implementation of bitcoin-qt, doing only the wallet part ? 756463;1405445241;ThickAsThieves;is bitcoincard shipped? 756464;1405445258;Rassah;Bitcoincard is credit card sized device, cheap, flexible, and uses 300meter range radio for communication 756465;1405445267;ThickAsThieves;https://mycelium.com/assets/img/bitcoincard.jpg 756466;1405445269;Rassah;No, we just got the prototypes in the office a few weeks ago 756467;1405445289;ThickAsThieves;asciilifeform will hack it for you 756468;1405445326;Rassah;First version of Bitcincard will just be a hardware wallet. Later version, once we get newer battery technology implemented (I think carbon?) it will do full mesh networking, meaning you'll be able to use Bitcoin without need for inernet, and if charged with solar, infrastructue of any kind 756469;1405445332;ThickAsThieves;though he may be bogged down shipping cardano 756470;1405445373;ThickAsThieves;mesh over what network? 756471;1405445375;mircea_popescu;well, mesh bitcoin wallet could be useful. 756472;1405445386;Rassah;mesh over it's own radio 756473;1405445391;mircea_popescu;uh. 756474;1405445398;mircea_popescu;no bluetooth with other devices around ? 756475;1405445417;Rassah;No. Possibly RFID to send signed transactions out of the device 756476;1405445431;mircea_popescu;that'll need a lot of saturation to be usable. 756477;1405445456;Rassah;Keep in mind, this thing, before it's laminated, is as thin as a piece of paper. Battery included. (and all flexible, including the display). Not much room or power for bluetoth 756478;1405445462;Rassah;yes, it will 756479;1405445463;ThickAsThieves;well considering we cant even mesh wifi 756480;1405445467;ThickAsThieves;... 756481;1405445522;Rassah;I beieve the idea is to get merchants to use a "terminal" or sorts to use our cards with, which will provide some of the mesh. Once the cards are done, we'll probably also sell solar powered radio repeaters, with no screens or walet, which should make those dirt cheap too. Then you just glue them to tops of things 756482;1405445561;Rassah;For now the main product is the Android Wallet though. And that Entropy thing we're finishing up 756483;1405445607;ThickAsThieves;are you one of the angel-invested startups? 756484;1405445656;Rassah;What? How so? 756485;1405445664;Rassah;Oh 756486;1405445684;ThickAsThieves;i just mean how lots of bitcoin biz are getting early investors and making coindesk about it 756487;1405445697;Rassah;No, the owner who came up with the Bitcoincard idea, and started Mycelium for bitcoin stuff, is some super-rich Russian dude 756488;1405445709;ThickAsThieves;cool, that war tanks guys? 756489;1405445721;Rassah;He's part investor in http://www.neftvodka.com/neftvodka/en/ 756490;1405445721;assbot;This website is exclusively for people over 18 years of age. | NEFT Vodka 756491;1405445738;ThickAsThieves;this is what i was thinking of http://na.wargaming.net/ 756492;1405445738;assbot;Wargaming.net 756493;1405445765;Rassah;No, I'm prettu syre not 756494;1405445772;ThickAsThieves;vodka in a barrel is acceptable 756495;1405445782;Rassah;Steel oil drum 756496;1405445805;ThickAsThieves;neat 756497;1405445836;Rassah;We are raising money for Entropy through Indiegogo because this was an idea that our devs came up with, and wanted to get it done regardless of our owner's financial input. 756498;1405445855;Rassah;He thinks if it won't make him a million ad get him a fancy sports car, it's not worth bothering with 756499;1405445855;ThickAsThieves;so he liked the idea, but not enough to fund it? 756500;1405445873;ThickAsThieves;heh 756501;1405445876;Rassah;but we think the idea is neat, chea, and worthwhile 756502;1405445881;Rassah;*cheap 756503;1405445908;ThickAsThieves;itll at least make reddit happy 756504;1405445909;mircea_popescu; yes, it will << to understand each other, we're talking millions of units in users hands before the 1st unit shipped becomes usable. 756505;1405445916;mircea_popescu;this means millions of units shipped the same day, launch day. 756506;1405445925;mircea_popescu;this is the sort of thing a megacorp a la sony can still botch. 756507;1405445982;Rassah; yes, it will is reply to well, mesh bitcoin wallet could be useful. 756508;1405446020;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves rassah is chiefly famous for having been an early adopter, then having bought bitcoin out of some sort of a retirement fund w/o the so's permission, right before the climb to 8 or something like that. then sold out and well, one of the first people to pay their mortgage "because bitcoin". 756509;1405446023;Rassah;Mesh network wallet, whether it is made my us or someone else, will be very useful, especally in places where electricity and internet/cell phone is spotty or unreliable (most of the world?) 756510;1405446050;Rassah;Mircea, absolutely not. That's not me 756511;1405446058;ThickAsThieves;mp thx for background 756512;1405446064;ThickAsThieves;oh 756513;1405446064;ThickAsThieves;hehe 756514;1405446095;ThickAsThieves;Rassah you can be like Tesla and make a big deal, say you are open-sourcing your mesh network tech 756515;1405446124;ThickAsThieves;let any device on the standard 756516;1405446137;ThickAsThieves;then you get your mesh 756517;1405446143;mircea_popescu;Rassah what, srsly ? 756518;1405446165;ThickAsThieves;make it talk to phones and such 756519;1405446169;ThickAsThieves;like mp said 756520;1405446242;Rassah;I was an early adopter, I bought bicoin usin my OWN retirement funds (i.e. money slated to go to IRA and savings every week ended up going into Bitcoin). Then I borrowed some more money from our HELOC to buy a $30k BLF miner, I never preordered, waiting for them to ship, by February 2013 they still didn't ship, so I sold those bitcins, paid off the HELOC, and bought this http://imgur.com/ZGjrh4e instead. I bought at $8, and sold 756521;1405446242;assbot;Bitcoin Prius - Imgur 756522;1405446242;Rassah;at $22, thinking "bubble." I was wrong on that, but my car had 250,000+ miles on it and was almost dead, so *shrug*. I have never sold out any of my other coins. As far as anyone knows, I have lost them all in a boating accident, or when I accidentally dropped my USB stick into an airplane toilet and flushed it out over the Atlantic 756523;1405446262;rithm;so mpex had a raid controller failure 756524;1405446264;Rassah;Paying my mortgage off with bitcoin would be very stupid, because mortgage rate is 4%, and bitcoin rate is ThroughTheMoon% 756525;1405446283;rithm;someone linked me to the blog and i read paranoia and/or a failed raid controller 756526;1405446303;rithm;maybe i skimmed 756527;1405446313;mircea_popescu;Rassah ah ok. 756528;1405446317;Rassah;And, btw, I was buying when it was $6, then $16, then $22, and then continued bying all the wa from $30 to $2.50, because I understood and believed in the syste 756529;1405446333;rithm;hi rassah 756530;1405446339;jcpham;i hide 756531;1405446345;Rassah;hi rithm 756532;1405446354;mircea_popescu;so how much btc was the prius ? 756533;1405446358;Rassah;hi jcpham 756534;1405446380;Rassah;Conveniently, the Prius was *exactly* 1,000BTC. Makes it easy to calculate it's present BTC value 756535;1405446384;mircea_popescu;rithm both, really. 756536;1405446401;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla see ? he got a 1k btc prius. beats your golf cart. 756537;1405446403;pankkake;eheh, twice kakobrekla's car! 756538;1405446414;Rassah;btw, the only people here I know are Mircea... 756539;1405446414;rithm;so clandestine three-letter agencies dumping the firewire, supermagnets, and a failed raid controller 756540;1405446415;danielpbarron;damn that's an expensive way to look like you care about the environment 756541;1405446434;mircea_popescu;lol 756542;1405446442;Rassah;I don't give a shit about the environment. I bought it to save money 756543;1405446447;kakobrekla;yes im a cheap bastard. 756544;1405446450;Rassah;which it does wonderfully 756545;1405446451;mircea_popescu;coulda bought 3 teslas, duct tape them together and just go everywhere and snub people 756546;1405446457;ThickAsThieves;i just got a prius as a hand-me-down 756547;1405446458;mircea_popescu;"see i r care about environment 3x more than you do" 756548;1405446478;rithm;oh are we having the conversation about "how x could be different if only i" 756549;1405446503;mircea_popescu;rithm less than a house still. 756550;1405446507;danielpbarron;i don't think a 1`000 BTC prius can ever get a ROI 756551;1405446519;rithm;that's time. anything you think you might have lost in currency conversion, it's really just time 756552;1405446531;rithm;if the 1000 btc were free? 756553;1405446534;ThickAsThieves;maybe he uses the money he saves on gas to buy more bitcoins 756554;1405446536;mircea_popescu;(for the newfags, this "less than a house" thing is a reference to a 2012 discussion re jcpham's investment in pirate. he had less thna a house, more than a car there) 756555;1405446559;Rassah;What I didn't know before is that Priuses have no transmissions, timing belts, or belts f any kind, and reqire practicaly no mainenance other than 10k mile oil changes and 100k brake pad and transaxle fluid changes. Everything else is electric... After $600+ expenses every 3 to 5 years on my Honda Civic, this is awesome. The 60mpg helps too 756556;1405446572;rithm;$7500 principal plus whatever zny interest pirate math was owed 756557;1405446579;rithm;mp speaks the truth 756558;1405446583;rithm;*zany 756559;1405446585;mircea_popescu;rithm so like... 498574389759347 btc ? 756560;1405446592;rithm;go away 756561;1405446606;mircea_popescu;i go away next week 7% more ? 756562;1405446612;kakobrekla;Rassah should have got a golf. 756563;1405446612;rithm;i'd have to dig up screenshots 756564;1405446621;rithm;1600btc and change 756565;1405446625;rithm;give or take 756566;1405446631;mircea_popescu;rithm right. plus interest.... 45096450968045 btc 756567;1405446632;Rassah;Plus I like driving a cell phone on wheels :D 756568;1405446644;rithm;it was a row in some mysql databse 756569;1405446648;rithm;it could be anything 756570;1405446655;rithm;it was not mine though 756571;1405446671;mircea_popescu;Rassah i just did the math, i spent more on camhos this month than your ho nda took every 5-6. 756572;1405446674;kakobrekla;is thats why you hide these days? 756573;1405446692;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i think he just wants to sing these days., 756574;1405446693;rithm;i like rithm more 756575;1405446695;Rassah;Oh, also got a 1,500 Watt inverter for it that can power quite a bit of my house. I can power that thing for about a week on a 10 gallon tank of gas. Conveient for camping, power outages, or GTOFing 756576;1405446712;rithm;i delightfully detached from that now 756577;1405446717;rithm;that was years ago 756578;1405446722;rithm;why are we bringing up old shit 756579;1405446731;rithm;Trendon stole my time from me 756580;1405446731;mircea_popescu;Rassah 1.5 watt inverter is kinda low neh ? cause of inductive capacity, you can't really run a fridge ron it 756581;1405446732;Rassah;Mircea, you are screwing up one of my bitcoin defences 756582;1405446738;rithm;and he's broke and he can't pay it back 756583;1405446761;kakobrekla;i got 3kw for 500bux a couple of months ago 756584;1405446772;Rassah;Trolls claim bitcoin is used for childporn, I point out that that's not true because no one pays for porn any more. Yet you do 756585;1405446788;mircea_popescu;Rassah it's moar complex than that. 756586;1405446792;mircea_popescu;i just buy souls. 756587;1405446797;ThickAsThieves;theyre in love 756588;1405446800;pankkake;of course people pay for porn 756589;1405446804;rithm;well childporn is secret and hides 756590;1405446808;rithm;from what i hear 756591;1405446810;Rassah;Not really 756592;1405446814;Rassah;from what I hear 756593;1405446828;mircea_popescu;princessnell http://trilema.com/2014/i-wasnt-going-to-actually-post-this-but/ 756594;1405446829;assbot;I wasn’t going to actually post this, but… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 756595;1405446831;rithm;xvideos and pornhub have a terrible selection based on the search i just did for childporn 756596;1405446837;Rassah;Being on a tor site doesn't eally mea hiding, does it? 756597;1405446841;danielpbarron;there is some creep in -otc that pays for a subscription to beastiality porn or something 756598;1405446842;mircea_popescu;rithm what is it, mostly brazil team ? 756599;1405446848;rithm;lololol 756600;1405446849;Rassah;*realy 756601;1405446863;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron is that the one with feminists ? 756602;1405446881;chetty;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10968316/Germanys-plan-to-take-on-NSA-Block-eavesdroppers-with-classical-music-and-use-typewriters.html 756603;1405446881;assbot;Germany's plan to take on NSA: Block eavesdroppers with classical music, and use typewriters - Telegraph 756604;1405446888;Rassah;hmm... I wonder what it would take for LocalTrader to compete with bitcoin-otc?... 756605;1405446899;pankkake;danielpbarron: well custom or niche porn is definitely something people will always pay for 756606;1405446902;danielpbarron;mircea_popescu, idk; who is that? I'm talking about Wolf` 756607;1405446913;pankkake;but still, it's not like pro porn production is slowing down, is it? 756608;1405446914;mircea_popescu;the people backing otc to move there. which won't happen really, because people don't move unless the platform fucks up majorily. 756609;1405446915;rithm;yeah that dude is fubar 756610;1405446918;rithm;`Wolf 756611;1405446923;Rassah;chetty: It's Germany. They would have a much better result if they blocked it with deathmetal 756612;1405446932;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's not, mostly because the girls like to do it, the photogs like to do it, everyone likes to do it. 756613;1405446940;mircea_popescu;but it's not really making money anymore. 756614;1405446951;mircea_popescu; chetty: It's Germany. They would have a much better result if they blocked it with deathmetal << WORD. 756615;1405446979;rithm;the nicer your camera is, the quicker the clothes come off, but ymmv 756616;1405446984;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/i-wasnt-going-to-actually-post-this-but/ 756617;1405446992;pankkake;it makes enough 756618;1405446999;pankkake;and of course they like to do it 756619;1405447004;mircea_popescu;yeah well, shoe shining makes enough. 756620;1405447046;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/my-2-000-btc-is-all-gone.84054/ << o look, intel found it. 756621;1405447047;assbot;My 2,000 BTC is all gone :( | Bitcointa.lk 756622;1405447192;ThickAsThieves;nice 756623;1405447225;pankkake;there was (still is?) a porn kickstarter, but most of the things there were boring. the only one I voted for didn't go to funding stage 756624;1405447233;ThickAsThieves;mp doesnt think cats can love now, when was the last time you were hugged? 756625;1405447258;mircea_popescu;ironically i just peeled out of a hug to read this. 756626;1405447278;ThickAsThieves;excellent 756627;1405447295;mircea_popescu;this internet psychology thing may have some limitations. 756628;1405447323;mircea_popescu;but anyway. ever seen a cat sitting on its master's grave ? 756629;1405447400;ThickAsThieves;not sure thats the measure of ability to love 756630;1405447406;pankkake;cats are psychopats 756631;1405447421;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what measure you'd propose ? 756632;1405447496;ThickAsThieves;kinda loaded question i think 756633;1405447525;mircea_popescu;o.O 756634;1405447527;ThickAsThieves;i suppose you could chemically test it 756635;1405447541;mircea_popescu;it can't be a loaded question. it gets immunity, because it's the strict followup to your protest. 756636;1405447568;ThickAsThieves;my protest is that you require notable mourning 756637;1405447577;ThickAsThieves;which i'm not sure is always required for love 756638;1405447599;ThickAsThieves;and i'm also pretty sure cats will mourn for their own 756639;1405447759;Rassah; Ah, forgot about that one. Sorry, I was trolling the bitcoin trolls, and explaining things to any alphabet soup agencies that may be listening. 756640;1405447817;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves does your position reduce to "cats love you too but you'll never know ?" cause i could argue the same of dildos. 756641;1405447844;Rassah;Oh, no wait. The 2,000 btc that was all gone was the BTC that went to pay for my Prius and pay off the HELOC. Sorry, got confused 756642;1405447863;Rassah;but I purposefully worded it in the OP as if I had lost it all 756643;1405447891;kakobrekla;to throw off the FBI. 756644;1405447896;Rassah;Still reading "bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains". Long ass article with lots of sie-links... 756645;1405447916;ThickAsThieves;no, more that cats express love in more limited way than humans do 756646;1405447952;ThickAsThieves;loved as a provider or protector or alpha etc 756647;1405447962;princessnell;mircea_popescu re: blog. US rebellion day was especially bleak this year. so many patriots in love with a system that despises and exploits them. defending the ghouls that have consumed and spit out their culture. 756648;1405447968;mircea_popescu;Rassah the author is this smart cookie. 756649;1405447979;princessnell;how do you do 756650;1405447995;Rassah;Not Andrea Castillo? 756651;1405448000;mircea_popescu;yeah. 756652;1405448004;pankkake;so gold diggers are in love? 756653;1405448015;mircea_popescu;pankkake in a more limited way than sluts. 756654;1405448021;ThickAsThieves;lol 756655;1405448043;pankkake;sluts love the/your dick, at least 756656;1405448078;ThickAsThieves;i think calling a cat a goldigger might be a tad off the mark 756657;1405448092;mircea_popescu;yeah, they don't really like to have to dig. 756658;1405448098;pankkake;mind you, I really like cats, and I wish I could have one 756659;1405448106;danielpbarron;http://i.imgur.com/q0ELQit.png 756660;1405448323;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves, crazy software. probably not as slow these days with the abundance of cheap ram 756661;1405448340;nubbins`;danielpbarron, it only takes 1btc to be elite these days? what the fuck does that make the rest of us? 756662;1405448429;nubbins`;also, i may have a lead on a poster job for a music festival ghostface killah is playing at 756663;1405448431;Rassah;So what kind of important, well connected, people who matter hang out on here? 756664;1405448437;nubbins`;trying not to get too excited ;0 756665;1405448442;danielpbarron;there can only ever be 21 million of such individuals; that's pretty elite vs 7 billion total population 756666;1405448477;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron nubbins` is canadian, he has no representation of people density. 756667;1405448489;Rassah;whom, if I had met, I'd be laughing at the notion of a fiat bank? (mind you, I hang out wth the likes of Kody Wilson and Amir Taki, too) 756668;1405448502;danielpbarron;ew 756669;1405448524;Rassah;I'm just wondering what the difference is between this IRC, and the Reddit/Skype/etc that's supposedly worse 756670;1405448546;mircea_popescu;Rassah well, here's a point : reddit/skype/etc still wonder why atc is a thing. 756671;1405448560;mircea_popescu;while everyone's tried to make altcoins and failed ever since forever. 756672;1405448561;Rassah;otc? 756673;1405448565;mircea_popescu;atc. 756674;1405448577;Rassah;I'm wondering what thing atc is 756675;1405448580;pankkake;why would you consider Altcoin a success? 756676;1405448613;mircea_popescu;pankkake because its price graph looks exactly opposite of doge&the rest of the scamfarm ? 756677;1405448620;Rassah;atc? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Touch_of_Class_(band) 756678;1405448620;assbot;A Touch of Class (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 756679;1405448639;pankkake;Anus Then Cunt 756680;1405448647;mircea_popescu;Rassah https://bitcointa.lk/threads/sha256-altcoin.250774/page-22 756681;1405448647;assbot;[SHA256] Altcoin | Page 22 | Bitcointa.lk 756682;1405448678;pankkake;atc's market cap is pretty small, there's no real over-valuation I suppose 756683;1405448708;mircea_popescu;you say this as if it were a bad thing. 756684;1405448721;pankkake;no, it's a good thing, but I wondered if you thought so too 756685;1405448724;kakobrekla;being dead is better than pretending of being alive :) 756686;1405448735;mircea_popescu;pankkake course i do. 756687;1405448742;pankkake;I don't think any altcoin should have a market cap >$10,000 or so 756688;1405448748;pankkake;well that clears something up 756689;1405448749;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla btw, i saw coffee and ciggarettes coupla days back. pretty good actually. 756690;1405448759;kakobrekla;is not bad. 756691;1405448777;mircea_popescu;pankkake twas clear tho, i had said so before, and dropped buncha other hints around it. 756692;1405448801;Rassah;I'm not sure if Altcoin is a joke or serious, reading is description... 756693;1405448806;Rassah;It sounds sarcastic 756694;1405448809;kakobrekla;serious joke. 756695;1405448835;ThickAsThieves;serious as a moustache 756696;1405448874;pankkake;Rassah: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-bernankoin-the-coin-not-evil-according-to-paul-krugman-dl-winqt-v1-3-now.213856/ 756697;1405448875;assbot;[ANN] Bernankoin the Coin Not Evil according to Paul Krugman DL WINQT v1.3 NOW | Bitcointa.lk 756698;1405448879;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves lulz of all time : chick put a magic marker winking eye next to her nipple and moustaches on both tits. not said a word. 756699;1405448883;Rassah;So I think "reddit/skype/etc still wonder why atc is a thing" should have been " reddit/skype/etc don't even know atc is a thing." 756700;1405448912;nubbins`;mircea_popescu did you see the Iggy Pop / Tom Waits bit in c&c? 756701;1405448917;mircea_popescu;Rassah there's a lot teh soft cloud of derps circling btc don't know about. 756702;1405448922;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yup 756703;1405448925;nubbins`;rich stuff 756704;1405448942;nubbins`;"...actually, just call me iggy" "so Jim..." 756705;1405448954;mircea_popescu;!up jdoubleu 756706;1405448957;mircea_popescu;they suck at acting, too. 756707;1405448962;Rassah;So, I'm still confused I guess 756708;1405448972;nubbins`;waits is actually a pretty good actor. they were both hamming it up in that scene 756709;1405448994;nubbins`;he played the devil in that Dr Parnassus movie 756710;1405448999;Rassah;By the way, anyone going to be in Chicago this weekend? 756711;1405449000;ThickAsThieves;rassah wants to know why any of us really matter 756712;1405449015;nubbins`;i really matter because i'm moderately well-connected in the wot 756713;1405449019;Rassah; No I DOn't 756714;1405449031;ThickAsThieves;sry 756715;1405449038;nubbins`;now, tbh, this only matters for some definitions of "matter" 756716;1405449039;ThickAsThieves;i'm confused about what you are confused about then 756717;1405449051;mircea_popescu;Rassah you got autocomplete in your client right ? 756718;1405449054;Rassah;I want to know why Mircea claimed that people here are important, and people outside of here are not 756719;1405449066;Rassah;Mircea: I don't know 756720;1405449080;mircea_popescu;a, that's easy. because mircea is a rich bastard, and that means he can claim anything he fucking feels like, then make it so. 756721;1405449088;mircea_popescu;try it : type mir hit tab, see what happens. 756722;1405449102;Rassah;Specifically, what types of connections that you can make here, and why are they better than connection on Reddit/Skype/etc 756723;1405449103;ThickAsThieves;miragine war 756724;1405449115;Rassah;mir 756725;1405449123;mircea_popescu;well that didn't work. 756726;1405449128;Rassah;n s 756727;1405449130;nubbins`;he said tab, not enter 756728;1405449134;ThickAsThieves;i did! 756729;1405449135;Rassah;mircea_popescu: oh 756730;1405449144;*;nubbins` golf claps 756731;1405449145;mircea_popescu;tab is like enter... 756732;1405449148;Rassah;I was looking for any key 756733;1405449151;ThickAsThieves;there are connections on reddit? 756734;1405449169;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves taleb is on reddit. 756735;1405449169;Rassah;I have made a few, yes 756736;1405449173;nubbins`;it's not dissimilar to enter 756737;1405449175;princessnell;Rassah you'll get it when you keep coming back 756738;1405449183;mircea_popescu;btw, anyone got that saffron chick's youtube at the ready ? 756739;1405449197;nubbins`;wait, so taleb didn't take the bait from that really super cringey video you paid for? 756740;1405449202;ThickAsThieves;lol 756741;1405449207;Rassah;But will I ever see any of you in real life? Like, speaking of which, is anyone here going to Chicago? 756742;1405449212;mircea_popescu;nubbins` nope :( he revenge-joined reddit instead. 756743;1405449215;nubbins`;bastard 756744;1405449221;mircea_popescu;hm whatr was it 756745;1405449223;mircea_popescu;$conference 756746;1405449225;nubbins`;gotta admit, i had to stop watching it 756747;1405449226;empyex;mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 9 months and 2 days. Estimated cost today: 2.11806614 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ ) 756748;1405449228;assbot;The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 756749;1405449229;ThickAsThieves;rassah, i go to the amsterdam conferences, otherwise we go to mp's conference 756750;1405449250;nubbins`;hey, i'll be in amsterdam soon 756751;1405449256;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the funny thing is... you promised liveblog. then blog. then it fizzled. then fluffypony went to some derpference, promised liveblog. then blog. then it fizzled. 756752;1405449259;Rassah;I was at the Amsterdam one on September 756753;1405449266;mircea_popescu;im starting to think like there's no content to be had or something 756754;1405449281;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I did Twitter instead of liveblog because of lack of stuff to talk about live 756755;1405449283;ThickAsThieves;i have like 20 draft articles 756756;1405449289;ThickAsThieves;just hooked on trading lately 756757;1405449308;mircea_popescu;fluffypony well yeah but sadly i killed andreas, so... i got nuttin'. 756758;1405449314;fluffypony;lol 756759;1405449322;Rassah;ThickAsThieves: If Amsterdam, do you know Moe Levin? 756760;1405449360;mircea_popescu;nubbins` srsly, why are they so cringe-y ? 756761;1405449361;ThickAsThieves;i do not know him personally 756762;1405449369;ThickAsThieves;i know who you mena though 756763;1405449406;nubbins`;mp i'm not sure, i guess generally people with a lack of social skills both end up cringey and spending a lot of time at the computer 756764;1405449414;nubbins`;add tits, and voila 756765;1405449419;nubbins`;cringey camgirls 756766;1405449437;nubbins`;seriously, the fifth word out of her mouth was "fantastical" 756767;1405449445;nubbins`;and she was talking about an intelligent person's brain 756768;1405449457;Rassah;ThickAsThieves: Damn. I'm wondering if the tightly woven net of connections here is in any way linked with the tightly woven net of connections I am involved with outside of here... 756769;1405449458;pankkake;shorter vids would have been better I think 756770;1405449464;mircea_popescu;Rassah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yrlh3E_qu4 << there. how does htis look to you ? 756771;1405449464;assbot;Mission: #bitcoin-assets - YouTube 756772;1405449467;pankkake;as there wasn't much to say, so it ends up being weird 756773;1405449469;ThickAsThieves;Rassah, not by me 756774;1405449493;mircea_popescu;pankkake i did take it from 5 to 3. how short! 756775;1405449499;ThickAsThieves;i probly annoyed people you know at one time or another, but im not connected to em 756776;1405449502;mircea_popescu;but maybe we should actually write scripts for the girls. 756777;1405449505;Rassah;mircea_popescu: finally finished your article. Nothing I disagree with. Much of that is discussed in private by some of the attendees, who otherwise put on a faux public face 756778;1405449529;mircea_popescu;Rassah faux public faces eh ? myeah. 756779;1405449559;Rassah;you don't tak about assassination market based disincentives in public, no 756780;1405449580;mircea_popescu;i talk about whatever the fuck i happen to feel like talking, why the hell not. 756781;1405449599;ThickAsThieves;thats why reddit doesnt adore you 756782;1405449613;Rassah;Some people are public company representatives that still rely on sales and not making politicians freak the fuck out :) 756783;1405449626;mircea_popescu;yes. and their companies added together are pretty much almost equal mpex. 756784;1405449641;mircea_popescu;which apparently doesn't even need to be online. 756785;1405449646;pankkake;I think being right when they are wrong is what's annoys them 756786;1405449650;Rassah;Which is fun to do if you aleady don' give a fuck about things, but is something o keep in check if public work is still to be done 756787;1405449673;pankkake;reddit made it ok to hide things that hurt your feelings 756788;1405449698;mircea_popescu;pankkake the theory i was happy with held that they worship the holders of trappings of power. ie, only the powerless. 756789;1405449703;Rassah;By he way, wat does mpex do/make? I just realized I never really looked into that... I guess I should 756790;1405449705;mircea_popescu;everyone else is scarydangerous. 756791;1405449726;mircea_popescu;Rassah makes a few hundred to a few ks a month, valued a few 100ks to a mil. 756792;1405449728;fluffypony;well at the moment mpex is the king of being offline :-P 756793;1405449744;pankkake;when it's online, it trades itself 756794;1405449755;fluffypony;and the owner keeps getting extradited from country to country 756795;1405449760;fluffypony;when he's not threatening to kill religious leaders 756796;1405449765;Rassah;Oh, yeah, an exchange. Sorry, forgot 756797;1405449791;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, i wonder when the first president rape occurs. now that women can be presidents. 756798;1405449791;Rassah;The longest running exchange that has not collapsed like every single other asset exchange has 756799;1405449880;Rassah;It's been a while since I have been in the anals of bitcointalk, so I forgot. Please fogive me Mircea 756800;1405449893;mircea_popescu;lol wait, what'd you do ? 756801;1405449926;ThickAsThieves;sounds like he got rich buying bitcoins and now makes bitcoin products for reddit 756802;1405449929;Rassah;I forgot what MPEx was 756803;1405449942;mircea_popescu;lol not like it's a crime 756804;1405449977;Rassah;mircea_popescu: btw, ironically, I thinkyou and Brock Pierce of Realcoin would get along well together... 756805;1405449998;fluffypony;Rassah: mircea_popescu isn't into little boys 756806;1405450002;fluffypony;so I don't think that's a good match 756807;1405450015;ThickAsThieves;what was the quote? 756808;1405450015;Rassah;neither is Brock, so that's not what I meant 756809;1405450020;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i'm very tolerant tho. 756810;1405450029;ThickAsThieves;theyre like children, you wanna love them all 756811;1405450046;mircea_popescu;Rassah well so what did you mean ? 756812;1405450100;pankkake;isn't realcoin the stupidest thing ever? 756813;1405450105;benkay; wait, so taleb didn't take the bait from that really super cringey video you paid for? // 30 second doses were all i could handle 756814;1405450128;Rassah;Brock is not as insultingly direct as you, but the best way to describe him is chaos. He has a shitton of money, and his goal in life is to create as much chaos and clusterfuck as possible using that money. Including investing in things that compete directly against his own companies and prior investments. 756815;1405450158;ThickAsThieves;so he also needs a hug 756816;1405450176;Rassah;That's partially why Realcoin, too. Get the pot stirring, maybe someone will get upset and make something better, maybe not, likely it won't go anywhere (he doesn't think it will last may years), but as long as he had fun, he does't give a shit 756817;1405450183;mircea_popescu;benkay why was it cringe-y ? 756818;1405450199;pankkake;if you want to transfer USDs tied to a counterparty, at least use Ripple where you can have more than one central counterparty 756819;1405450201;benkay;poor improvisation. 756820;1405450204;Rassah;He's basically another stpid-rich guy who likes to fuck with things 756821;1405450204;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you and your hugs. next time i see you ima make everyone hug you. 756822;1405450221;ThickAsThieves;no i'll melt! 756823;1405450222;benkay;and if scripted, godawful scripting. 756824;1405450225;Rassah;pankkake: I'd rather use OpenTransaction instead of Ripple 756825;1405450240;mircea_popescu;benkay but i had believed in the power of the crowd source! 756826;1405450249;mircea_popescu;ot actually works now ? 756827;1405450253;benkay;2's a crowd? 756828;1405450258;pankkake;oh, I suppose you could use it that way too 756829;1405450272;pankkake;in any case, you don't need a "coin" 756830;1405450287;Rassah;mircea_popescu: And Brock also privately has a ton of high level connections, probably to almost every bitcoin mining company, bitcoin business, and ons of cuntry politicians, from Russia to China to Sout America... 756831;1405450314;pankkake;and Thailand 756832;1405450332;benkay;i long for my home cuntry 756833;1405450359;ThickAsThieves;cuntry road take me hoem 756834;1405450359;mircea_popescu;Rassah and if instead he were just a washed up child actor with a charged past, looking to come to terms with his depression, wouldn't he be claiming basically the exact same things ? 756835;1405450367;Rassah;pankkake: I agree with you that you don't need a coin for anything backed. Backing is by definition centralized, so the only thing you can decentralize is the servers handling it. Which, I guess using a distributed ledger instead of a centralized one running on your own server saves you a bit of money, but... 756836;1405450380;*;benkay tunes out 756837;1405450412;mircea_popescu;now seriously dear assets, we need a script for the next girl doing a nude attack vid. 756838;1405450420;mircea_popescu;who's got ideas! 756839;1405450424;Rassah;mircea_popescu: I don't think washed out child actors have millions privately invested in tons of companies, and tak about this shit over 20 rounds of beer that they pay with an AmEx Centurion card 756840;1405450434;mthreat;1. bitcoin for script writer 756841;1405450437;mthreat;2. bitcoin for tits 756842;1405450445;mthreat;3. profit 756843;1405450464;mircea_popescu;well, if noit profit, at least scriptits. 756844;1405450472;princessnell;i can write a script. no tits from me tho. 756845;1405450482;mircea_popescu;princessnell but can you make it good ? 756846;1405450491;princessnell;i think so! what are you going for? 756847;1405450498;mircea_popescu;you watched the prev ones ? 756848;1405450519;princessnell;only that one with dear saffron 756849;1405450530;Rassah;Anyone ever wonder how the hell Brock, whom no one knew much about, got elected to the BF board, when the public either does't know him or hates his guts? To me that says connections of some sort... 756850;1405450542;mircea_popescu;princessnell good enough. 756851;1405450544;Rassah;Anywa, back to reading trilema links... 756852;1405450558;mircea_popescu;princessnell so then why ask me what we're going for ? 756853;1405450582;princessnell;so i can give you exactly what you want 756854;1405450583;mircea_popescu;Rassah the bf board is easy. i could have a dead hamster elected, if i wanted to waste btc supporting cancer. 756855;1405450617;mircea_popescu;i like how this is going, but! what i want is basically the words for a camho to coldhit an older, accomplished male. 756856;1405450628;mircea_popescu;exactly the reverse of pickup artistrsy 756857;1405450630;Rassah;Hah! So you got connections to people on the bf board! Finally some real world ties :D 756858;1405450645;mircea_popescu;this is getting lulzy. 756859;1405450664;mircea_popescu;Rassah http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ << identify faces will you. 756860;1405450665;assbot;The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 756861;1405450734;princessnell;coquettishness then. how long? who are the marks? 756862;1405450765;princessnell;#bitcoin-assets is the realest world 756863;1405450789;mircea_popescu;princessnell how... long ? well so far i took it down from 5 to 3 minutes. if you can deliver in less im sure the girls will love it. 756864;1405450795;Rassah;I recognize Mircea... I guess that's all that matters? 756865;1405450800;mircea_popescu;srsly ? 756866;1405450809;benkay;mircea_popescu: it's going to have to be an actual nude video this time too 756867;1405450816;mircea_popescu;benkay yeah. 756868;1405450833;mircea_popescu;the hard part is that well... too much going on for the girl to manage. you'll see. 756869;1405450843;benkay;hm? 756870;1405450852;Rassah;mircea_popescu: yeah. Seems there are two completely different power groups in Bitcoin 756871;1405450876;Rassah;Which is awesome, because I have TWO social ladders to climb now :D 756872;1405450877;mircea_popescu;Rassah notrly. the people you've not identified include wences, voorhees, momchil, bunches of others. 756873;1405450891;Rassah;That IS Voorhees? 756874;1405450899;mircea_popescu;welcome to 2012. 756875;1405450910;Rassah;I tought it was him, but didn't want to risk insulting you, because I didn't know what your opinion of him is 756876;1405450952;mthreat;mircea_popescu: have you tried running a google adword on taleb's own name? people often google themselves. I remember reading a blog post from a guy who used that approach to reach someone. 756877;1405450953;mircea_popescu;perhaps because you also don't know who laid down the ruleset for the sec, and really for the whole us 756878;1405450965;mircea_popescu;because you think there's somehow two power groups, because i guess... a lot of talking ? or something. 756879;1405450967;mthreat;mircea_popescu: (assuming you're trying to get taleb here) 756880;1405450979;mircea_popescu;mthreat yeah but that someone was a vapid marketeering bitch. 756881;1405450998;mthreat;this was a guy, but i'm sure it's happened more than once 756882;1405451004;mircea_popescu;imo it'd be a shit move, seeing how plenty of people google taleb to, you know, find taleb. 756883;1405451013;mthreat;geolocate it to his city 756884;1405451014;mircea_popescu;(bitch is not gender bound) 756885;1405451035;mthreat;"bitch is in the heart" 756886;1405451040;mircea_popescu;are you setting me up for a restraining order ? 756887;1405451685;mircea_popescu;princessnell if it helps, i think the next victim is nick szabo 756888;1405451695;mircea_popescu;which reminds me, dear chan, we also need a victim list! 756889;1405451761;princessnell;ooo <3nick szabo<3 will do my best. bitstein has been chatting him up, maybe he can help with that one. 756890;1405451802;mircea_popescu;bitcoin-assets. where you do what you love. also puns. 756891;1405451923;Rassah;mircea_popescu: I noticed you rely a lot on PHP... I've been treating my PHP keys like disposable tissues, and relyig on bitcoin message signing instead... 756892;1405451941;Rassah;Is that in any way something you accomodate? 756893;1405451945;mircea_popescu;http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/08/26/to-the-dudebro-who-thinks-hes-insulting-me-by-calling-me-a-feminist/ << in which self centered douche imagines someone poking fun at him necessarily gives a shit about him personally. 756894;1405451969;mircea_popescu;Rassah i have no idea what you just asked. what php keys, and where would i accomodate them ? 756895;1405451986;Rassah;For instance, at the conference 756896;1405451998;Rassah;Doh! PGP, not PHP 756897;1405452076;mircea_popescu;no, i'm not going to support a braindamaged half baked re-implementation of pgp in bitcoind. 756898;1405452119;mircea_popescu;leaving aside all the 500 other problems with the idea, why would you want to centralise things ? 756899;1405452145;Rassah;Centralize? 756900;1405452178;mircea_popescu;yes. 756901;1405452268;Rassah;It's supported by bitcoind, blockchain.info, Armory, Mycelium, and probably many others. I figured bitcoin message signing is a step in the right direction, because not many are working on making PGP keys secure as hell, but tons of people are woking on making Bitcoin keys secure as hell, and easy to use from wallets. Otherwise I don't know what the difference in implementation is between PGP and BTC signing 756902;1405452342;pankkake;pgp offers more than signing, and has an entirely different paradigm. identity has multiple signing and encryption keys; you trust the identity 756903;1405452367;Rassah;oh yeah 756904;1405452382;pankkake;using bitcoin forces you to a lower level that is quite inconvenient 756905;1405452390;mircea_popescu;Rassah you figured wrong. tieing your ability to sign to bitcoin is a step in the wrong direction. 756906;1405452438;benkay;apropos of nothing: http://valleywag.gawker.com/police-investigating-star-tech-ceo-over-multiple-rape-a-1601697781 756907;1405452439;assbot;Police Investigating Star Tech CEO Over Multiple Rape Allegations 756908;1405452458;mircea_popescu;wait srsly ?! 756909;1405452534;pankkake;Scott Kveton is the CEO of Urban Airship, a mobile services platform provider in Portland, Oregon <= CEO, "urban", "mobile services", "portland" 756910;1405452538;benkay;no contracts, no negotiation. just... 756911;1405452545;pankkake;that wsan't rape, that was ironic sex! 756912;1405452559;benkay;no safewords even apparently. lots of intoxication. 756913;1405452579;mircea_popescu;i don't do safewords either. 756914;1405452982;ThickAsThieves;<+Rassah> Anyone ever wonder how the hell Brock, whom no one knew much about, got elected to the BF board, when the public either does't know him or hates his guts? To me that says connections of some sort... /// but how to apply this logic to Ploshay? 756915;1405453406;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ao8kz/people_us_dollars_are_not_worth_a_fifth_of_a/ 756916;1405453406;assbot;People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! : Bitcoin 756917;1405453411;mircea_popescu;reddit discovers things. 756918;1405453720;Rassah;ThickAsThieves: but how to apply this logic to Ploshay? Ploshay was well liked, and was like the "popular girl" or whatever, elected during a very public election when the BF was still something the general public was interested in, and when BF was still interested in a public image 756919;1405453739;Rassah;Ploshay won a popularity contest basicaly (I ran against her, so I may be biased) 756920;1405453782;mircea_popescu;lol wait, the bf is not interested in a public image anymore ? 756921;1405453797;mircea_popescu;was this 5 minutes before or 5 minutes after their public image got wrecked ? 756922;1405453828;fluffypony;lol 756923;1405453834;fluffypony;so Petamine made a BIG fuss about moving to p2pool 756924;1405453838;fluffypony;https://twitter.com/CoinpricesIO/status/489105070852558848 756925;1405453880;mircea_popescu;p2pool sadly has some lingering tech issues. for years now. 756926;1405453888;Rassah;It was not 5 minutes, it was more like a long slog into the dumps 756927;1405453892;mircea_popescu;i'd love nothing more than to push a p2pool. 756928;1405453900;Rassah;I love p2pool 756929;1405453919;Rassah;A lot of the whole "How can we fix 51% attacks" suggestions are really horrible... 756930;1405453933;ThickAsThieves;indeed 756931;1405454077;Rassah;I am especially concerned about the one where mining in a pool is made difficult to impossible by making sharing a secret key that lets the miner steal all coins a requirement. The way I see it is, we either have pools that concentrate mining power, but don't actually own or control that power, or we create incentives for individuals to amass tons of mining power, since being a smal miner or as part of a pool is impossible, and 756932;1405454077;Rassah;then we have individuals that actually do control that mining power. Badly alligned incentives... 756933;1405454158;Rassah;Basically, pools with 50% mining power are better than individuals with 50% mining power, and some ideas seem to make us trend to 50% owned by individuals 756934;1405454175;mircea_popescu;Rassah the key sharing thing is braindamaged. 756935;1405454186;mircea_popescu;there will be a wrapper around it on day 1.01 756936;1405454227;Rassah;Hey, can you guys tell me who BitcoinPete is? 756937;1405454257;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust bitcoinpete 756938;1405454258;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 7 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: Fri Mar 28 09:14:47 2014 756939;1405454274;mircea_popescu;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/304046_Startup_CEO_Dudebro_Wishes_Deg << someone needs to explain to me how homeless people can be residents of san francisco. 756940;1405454275;assbot;Startup CEO Dudebro Wishes 'Degenerates' Would Stop Ruining 'The Civilized Part' of San Francisco - LGF Pages 756941;1405454283;mircea_popescu;am i a resident of sf ? 756942;1405454404;ThickAsThieves;Rassah, bitcoinpete is a b-a disciple going back roughly 6mos, he blogs and has a neat jewfro 756943;1405454438;ThickAsThieves;not sure his profession 756944;1405454474;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel 756945;1405454485;Rassah;Huh. He's actually the reason I'm in here in the first place. I followed his blog here, after he tweeted that Mycelium Entropy < dice, and agreed once I asked him if he would be interested in auditing out device. 756946;1405454493;gabriel_laddel;they spend a lot on the homeless every year in SF. I imagine that when they hand it out they sort out the papers for these 'people'. 756947;1405454506;Rassah;Peter Todd will be doing an audit too, ad I was hping Bitcoin Pete was someone with some technical knowledge or something 756948;1405454515;mircea_popescu;but still. to reside somewhere must mean you own some real estate. 756949;1405454528;mircea_popescu;Rassah tech knowledge in what field ? 756950;1405454539;Rassah;software, hardware, anything. 756951;1405454548;mircea_popescu;that's a little confused. 756952;1405454568;mircea_popescu;whoa look, bitcoinpete's only been rated since march huh. how time flies. 756953;1405454588;Rassah;Basically, we have people with reservations about the randomness and security of our entropy devices, despite not actually knowing how it works, and we are hoping to get some of tose people to back up their claims 756954;1405454626;mircea_popescu;i guess asciilifeform is the guy who's done most re entropy. 756955;1405454655;Rassah;so tech knowledge enough to be able to check how the software works, and maybe hardware knowledge to know what chips are being used in the schematic 756956;1405454676;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: Is your express purpose for the cam video to get people like Nick Szabo and Taleb to join #-assets? 756957;1405454680;Rassah;mircea_popescu: I haven't heard a peep from asciilifeform, actually. Most complaints ave been from slush 756958;1405454731;asciilifeform;!s asciilifeform mycelium 756959;1405454731;assbot;5 results for 'asciilifeform mycelium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=asciilifeform+mycelium 756960;1405454757;mircea_popescu;wait. were you looking for people with tech expertise or with complaint expertise ? 756961;1405454788;mircea_popescu;anyway, http://trilema.com/2013/cardano-xmas-blown-other-statements/ 756962;1405454790;assbot;Cardano : Xmas blown, other statements pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 756963;1405454793;mircea_popescu;footnote 5 prolly of most interest to you 756964;1405454800;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel yes. 756965;1405454837;Rassah;mircea_popescu: Typicall they are one and the same. It's rare that people who dn't know whit about a topic shit all over it. Unless they're politicians 756966;1405454846;Rassah;whit = shit 756967;1405454846;mircea_popescu;or on reddit. 756968;1405454868;mircea_popescu;or on the internet. or 20. or having a bad day. or w/e. 756969;1405454974;FabianB;$mpexstatus 756970;1405454976;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 756971;1405454977;assbot;401 Authorization Required 756972;1405455061;Rassah;The only ones on Reddit who brought up issues were the ones I know to have technical backgrounds (sluch, peter todd, a few others who backed up their concerns with actual technical questions). Most everyone else just went gaga over it. I kinda assumed BitcoinPete knew something about cryptography and security, considering his statement, followed by me asking if he'd be interested in doing an audit for us, and him agreeing. 756973;1405455074;Rassah;Though if he just bloggs, I'm not sure if that will be worth our time or money 756974;1405455107;mircea_popescu;;;seen bitcoinpete 756975;1405455107;gribble;bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: Rassah: neat rating comment from theymos "Holds BTC for the forum." 756976;1405455122;mircea_popescu;guy shows up here about once a day, you can ask him in person and get an idea. 756977;1405455128;mircea_popescu;!up CheckDavid 756978;1405455132;mircea_popescu;!up chetty 756979;1405455133;Rassah;Will do. 756980;1405455167;mircea_popescu;anyway, i still don't know what it is or what's to go gaga over. 756981;1405455193;chetty;http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Thomaston-Man-Arrested-After-Stabbing-Watermelon-Cops-267183461.html 756982;1405455194;assbot;Thomaston Man Arrested After Stabbing Watermelon: Cops | NBC Connecticut 756983;1405455245;mircea_popescu;gotta find more humane ways to cut the gourd ? 756984;1405455245;Rassah;It's a USB stick that you stick into your priner's USB port, it detects a photo, and you hit print, making your printer print a bicoin paper wallet that's never been exposed to the web. Soon as you pull the stick out, the keys are gone for ever 756985;1405455246;CheckDavid;mircea_popescu: hi baby 756986;1405455289;CheckDavid;Can't I up myself anymore? :p 756987;1405455289;Rassah;Basically an extremely high level entropy generator that uses that entropy to make secure paper walets 756988;1405455292;asciilifeform;Rassah: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744143 756989;1405455292;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 756990;1405455322;mircea_popescu;Rassah is this thing atmel based ? 756991;1405455360;asciilifeform;Rassah: what must one do to verify - without a shade of doubt, in personal laboratory - that your device works as described? 756992;1405455430;Rassah;asciilifeform: Atmel SAM4L series running the software, with random number being generated only from SRAM, in combinaton with other things we're considering, like a salt you can add in a TXT file 756993;1405455450;Rassah;You can check what the software calls for 756994;1405455467;asciilifeform;Rassah: generated only from SRAM << your code reads a standalone sram? or atmel claims to produce rng output this way inside a black box micro ? 756995;1405455503;Rassah;I think standalone sram 756996;1405455528;asciilifeform;Rassah: I think << you are not the designer of this item ? 756997;1405455591;Rassah;asciilifeform: No, that would be a few of the Mycelium devs. They described a lot of it to me, since I'm working with them (I'm the one doing the public interraction thing, and running Indiegogo and such) 756998;1405455624;Rassah;I asked and can relay the Atmel/sram question. I think they are al asleep right now, since they're in Austria 756999;1405455624;asciilifeform;Rassah: other question. in my own experiments, i found that sram powerup 'static' depends heavily on the die's temperature. 757000;1405455657;asciilifeform;Rassah: what, if anything, does your product do to verify that rng is actually functioning 'as rated' before bits are used in anger? 757001;1405455710;mircea_popescu;Rassah probably the better avenue would be for the graybeard in charge to show up here 757002;1405455732;mircea_popescu;people have tried this "i'm the pr, i'll pass q's along" thing before, it never works well, not necessarily through anyone's specific fault, 757003;1405455738;mircea_popescu;but things get escalated and magnified. 757004;1405455789;Rassah;In our tests, it still had plenty of entropy at 0ºC, but it smoothly went down to zero entropy around -20º. Maybe we should put warning stickers on these things saying "Caution - Chaotic System. Do not use in low entropy environments above the Arctic or below the Antarctic circle, unless exposed to external sources of energy" :) 757005;1405455794;asciilifeform;Rassah, mircea_popescu: then one last question, for if/when he does. value of adjacent sram cells is correlated. what, if anything, was done about this? (my guess - nothing but the usual 'whitening'.) 757006;1405455846;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i personally doubt anyone with hardware understanding touched the design, but then again how would i know. 757007;1405455875;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: somebody had to crap out the physical unit. 757008;1405455878;Rassah;We can store part of the raw entropy into non-volatile memory and 757009;1405455878;Rassah;compare it on the next run. Since we have about 30 times more entropy 757010;1405455878;Rassah;than we need, we can afford it. This memory effect is already very 757011;1405455878;Rassah;unlikely; the probability that 1/20th of the SRAM behaves fine and the 757012;1405455878;Rassah;other 19/20th are stuck is much lower. Especially if the stored part 757013;1405455879;Rassah;is taken from a different SRAM area every time. 757014;1405455881;Rassah;We can also add secondary sources to the mix: 757015;1405455883;Rassah;- the built-in TRNG; nobody trusts these things anymore as primary 757016;1405455885;Rassah;sources, and we did not even consider its availability when choosing 757017;1405455887;Rassah;the processor, but it's there and is probably perfectly fine and 757018;1405455890;Rassah;random; 757019;1405455891;mircea_popescu;Rassah try a pastebin srsly. 757020;1405455892;Rassah;- floating ADC inputs, as Peter suggested; 757021;1405455894;Rassah;- five independent RC oscillators. 757022;1405455898;Rassah;Sorry for the line spam 757023;1405455903;Rassah;copy/pasted from reply 757024;1405455918;asciilifeform;floating adc inputs << you mean local radio station receiver ! 757025;1405455930;Rassah;asciilifeform: this device was designed and assembled by the people workin on the bitcoincard. They all know hardware extremely wel 757026;1405455935;kakobrekla;Rassah why dont you get people who are actually doing this thing here before you do more damage? 757027;1405455941;asciilifeform;rc oscillators << you meant - 'thermometers' 757028;1405455944;mircea_popescu;so it's using an atmel micro but not for the trng ? 757029;1405455950;Rassah;kakobrekla: Damage? 757030;1405456014;Rassah;Ah, got a eply. Seems we'll be using he Atmel provided SRAM after all. And "We will be doing our own analysis of data from several chips, and provide a raw entropy file for those who want to do their own for their specific device." combined with "option to enter a user-supllied salt" 757031;1405456080;asciilifeform;/me 'we'll be using he Atmel provided SRAM' << has probably read enough. 757032;1405456082;Rassah;So, we won't be relying on Atmel's RNG, and will be reading their SRAM directly 757033;1405456083;mircea_popescu;this doesn't sound terribly mature somehow. 757034;1405456108;Rassah;mature in what way? Completed and researched? Or discussed at present? 757035;1405456109;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, this is your punishment for xmas. 757036;1405456134;asciilifeform;ehehe 757037;1405456165;Rassah;Is Atmel really that untrustworthy? Is there a better option? 757038;1405456166;mircea_popescu;Rassah as in i get the impression things may change or w/e. anyway. 757039;1405456181;mircea_popescu;atmel is a us producer of black box transistor boxes. 757040;1405456188;asciilifeform;Rassah: ever encounter the concept of 'auditability' ? 757041;1405456194;mircea_popescu;this is a poor fit for the application. 757042;1405456210;Rassah;mircea_popescu: No, the hardware design is finished. Changes are only in software. Initial method of creating keys is done, we are just adding software patches to add more and more entropy sources to this thing. 757043;1405456224;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0AQNY2Q.txt ) 757044;1405456224;kakobrekla;!b 1 757045;1405456246;mircea_popescu;software does not add entropy. 757046;1405456261;asciilifeform;floating adc inputs! am i roasting in some sort of F-student hell now? 757047;1405456323;Rassah;I mean the chip and the hardware has a lot of stuff in there. The entropy is altready there, but initially we figured the SRAM chip was overkill. The "software adding entropy" meaning we just add more code to grab entropy from more hardware and user sources 757048;1405456337;mircea_popescu;i see. 757049;1405456347;asciilifeform;Rassah: user sources ??? 757050;1405456434;Rassah;Yes. If you plug tis device into your PC while holding down the button, it shows up in "flash mode", where instead of just a USB stick with a JPG on it, you get to see all the system and settings files. One of those files is a user provded sald (like diceware) that will be combined with the rest of the entropy sources to produce the final key 757051;1405456464;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'combined' in what sense? 757052;1405456531;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aq7w0/psa_bitbet_holding_funds_past_bet_resolution_date/cixxunv kinda lulzy shit. 757053;1405456532;assbot;DownvCuzIHurtUrFeels comments on PSA: BitBet holding funds past bet resolution date. 757054;1405456537;asciilifeform;Rassah: let me guess. a hash. 757055;1405456609;Rassah;key = H(salt||H(entropy)) with H(entropy) on a second sheet of paper so the user can verify it... or something 757056;1405456667;Rassah;Initially the idea was: Write a salt onto the stick. Then generate key = H(H(entropy_1) + salt) + H(H(entropy_2) + salt), and print all of [key, salt, H(e1), H(H(e1) + salt), H(e2), H(H(e2) + salt)]. (+ could be arithmetic addition or XOR; either should be fine.) The user can then verify exactly one of the outer hashes on an insecure computer, and can verify the additions by hand (literally, pen and paper, no computer) 757057;1405456685;asciilifeform;Rassah: why are you using whitening (hashing) in rng? and 'because everyone does' is not acceptable answer. 757058;1405456727;asciilifeform;Rassah: because now your bits are... correlated. 757059;1405456742;Rassah;Oh, one other answer (one of the techs is awake): We know we're getting sram because we are physically reading it. 757060;1405456763;asciilifeform;Rassah: do you actually believe that hashing can add (instead of subtracting) entropy? 757061;1405456846;Rassah;It may reduce entropy, but it inreases he number of attack vectors, doesn't it? Attacker would need both the hardware based RNG and the salt to compromise it 757062;1405456871;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'we are physically reading it' << how do you know this? that is to say, if both the reader and the sram are on one ic die, how can you substitute, e.g. a fake sram that never flips bits, to test ? 757063;1405456897;asciilifeform;Rassah: picture a thoroughly, obscenely broken hash. 757064;1405456916;Rassah;Due to bits not always flipping because of temperature and outside environment, we will be testing for these issues already. 757065;1405456934;asciilifeform;Rassah: then it doesn't matter what you did to plug in the random bits - they are smeared across the 'ciphertext' (if you will, the hash output) and can be inferred. 757066;1405456971;mircea_popescu;!up chetty 757067;1405456992;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'we will be testing' >> how ? 757068;1405457073;asciilifeform;Rassah: my purpose isn't pedantry. try to apprehend: i buy your product, get a keychain-sized gizmo with a single chip. how do i verify that the package functions exactly as described? 757069;1405457105;Rassah;I understand. I'm glad you are asking these questions 757070;1405457113;Rassah;THERE'S someone I finally know! 757071;1405457134;asciilifeform;Rassah: consider that you are now married to the physical characteristics of a particular model from particular vendor. e.g. next year atmel ships sram that's non-entropic down to -40. without bothering to tell you. or it is 'entropic', but actually picks up Voice of America. 757072;1405457137;Rassah;The Davi Barket convention standin 757073;1405457141;Rassah;*Barker 757074;1405457173;Rassah;asciilifeform: He's writing. Give me a sec 757075;1405457177;BingoBoingo;Rassah: What I didn't know before is that Priuses have no transmissions, timing belts, or belts f any kind, and reqire practicaly no mainenance other than 10k mile oil changes and 100k brake pad and transaxle fluid changes. Everything else is electric... After $600+ expenses every 3 to 5 years on my Honda Civic, this is awesome. The 60mpg helps too << Transaxel is just a sideways transmission 757076;1405457210;mircea_popescu;Rassah seriously, this guy can't irc or something ? 757077;1405457217;kakobrekla;Pirus story rehashed with the new gizmo 757078;1405457231;Rassah;BingoBoingo: It's three motors in a constantly moving planetary gear setup. The "transmitting" is done by varying input, generation, and torque of he electric motors 757079;1405457252;mircea_popescu;yah i think that's how they do all the hybrids. 757080;1405457272;Rassah;Just Prius. Others use plain engine, plain motor, ad connect them with a CVT 757081;1405457286;kakobrekla;o wait i take that back. 757082;1405457347;Rassah;Basicaly, normally to get more power, a car (or other hybrids) switch to a lower gear ratio and spin the electric and/or gas harder. In a prius, the gas engine spins faster than the smaler inner engine can keep up, whic cases it to spin backwards, generate electricity, and then that electric is pumped into the big electric engine 757083;1405457424;Rassah;Here's an interractive animation of it http://eahart.com/prius/psd/ 757084;1405457425;assbot;Toyota Prius - Power Split Device 757085;1405457557;Rassah;mircea_popescu: Not realy. The reason I was hired is because they don't have time or patience for that 757086;1405457562;BingoBoingo;Right, but this arrangement of gears and fluids to drive power to wheels is still a transmission. Even if oddly arranged. Nearly any front wheel drive, front engine car uses the term transaxle for this. 757087;1405457593;BingoBoingo;Because it is transmission+axle 757088;1405457603;Rassah;BingoBoingo: I think Prius calls it a transaxle too. But I don't see it as any sort of normal "transmission" 757089;1405457621;Rassah;After working on cars, this thing is too weird and different (and less problem-prone) to me 757090;1405457647;mircea_popescu;Rassah well then i guess they don't get to talk about it at all, to no-one's particular detriment. 757091;1405457675;BingoBoingo;Oh it is abnormal as hell, but because of its role it is still a transmission 757092;1405457715;Rassah;asciilifeform: from Nikita: Firstly, we'll publish our analysis of data from chips and argue that it should apply to all chips, and whoever wants can get data from his chip and run our tools or make his own. (our device will be fully open source, so anyone can make one if they wish). Secondly, we zero out a word in memory and make sure it's got enough 1s next time. If there was not enough power-off time, sram would retain its 757093;1405457715;Rassah;state and we'd read 0 and refuse to generate a key. We will check if the amount of 0 > x% and < y% (to check for deep-freeze temperatures) the Closer they are to 50% the better 757094;1405457724;Rassah;but since the sample amount is very large even a 10% value is technically enough 757095;1405457752;asciilifeform;Rassah: ask him if whitening is used anywhere. 757096;1405457803;Rassah;I asked. Can you tell me what whitening is? I'm not that techie :( 757097;1405457833;Rassah;hashing? 757098;1405457855;asciilifeform;Rassah: hashing as an attempt to 'distill' entropy. 757099;1405457974;mircea_popescu;whitening is the process of turning the banal 11111 string into b0baee9d279d34fa1dfd71aadb908c3f 757100;1405457992;mircea_popescu;which is supposedly "entropic", up until someone tries to put your source through md5 757101;1405457993;Rassah;asciilifeform: Nikita says we use standard cryptographic hashes. Just for salt, for private and public keys, and other bitcoin specific things 757102;1405457997;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: yes. some people, somehow, think this adds 'entropy' 757103;1405458012;asciilifeform;Rassah: i drew you a picture: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jjqY9eTW 757104;1405458030;Rassah;We don't use hashing as a source of entropy, no. Only to combine ours with a salt 757105;1405458044;asciilifeform;Rassah: this is approximately the kind of pattern you end up with using sram on powerup 757106;1405458069;asciilifeform;Rassah: as you can see - if you turn this into a bitstring by pure 'raster' scan, it will contain mostly zero. 757107;1405458087;asciilifeform;Rassah: by what means do you 'collect the entropy' ? 757108;1405458093;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no matter. von neuman :D 757109;1405458113;Rassah;asciilifeform: We read the ram data directly 757110;1405458122;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: von neumann of predictable bitstream is still predictable. 757111;1405458130;mircea_popescu;but debiased! 757112;1405458165;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: comput von neumann of '0101010101'. 757113;1405458215;mircea_popescu;i suspect a trick. 757114;1405458245;mircea_popescu;!up ducky_ 757115;1405458271;mike_c;00000 757116;1405458273;mike_c;what do i win 757117;1405458296;Rassah;asciilifeform: It's a bit white (with 0's), but it's considerably more populated than that. This is the paper that we used to base this one, and it has some examples of the results http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.164.6432&rep=rep1&type=pdf 757118;1405458311;Rassah;http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.164.6432 757119;1405458312;assbot;CiteSeerX — Power-up SRAM State as an Identifying Fingerprint and Source of True Random Numbers 757120;1405458322;asciilifeform;Rassah: we read the paper. (or at least, i did) 757121;1405458331;Rassah;ok 757122;1405458347;asciilifeform;Rassah: consider the title of the paper. do you see any apparent contradiction? 757123;1405458412;Rassah;Hah, Nikita just ran the output from our device as an actual example http://pastebin.com/yz2GnsKd 757124;1405458412;assbot;0000200: 00001011 00101101 11010100 11101010 .-.. 0000204: 11111101 01111100 1 - Pastebin.com 757125;1405458421;BingoBoingo;Rassah: Anyone ever wonder how the hell Brock, whom no one knew much about, got elected to the BF board, when the public either does't know him or hates his guts? To me that says connections of some sort... << 90's nostalgia 757126;1405458458;Rassah;BingoBoingo: Name one movie (besides Mighty Ducks, where he had a sall cameo) that we was in? I've never even heard of him before bitcoin 757127;1405458510;mike_c;it's not a cameo if you're not famous 757128;1405458525;BingoBoingo;Rassah: Some thing where he went in time with knights or some shit. At first I confused him with Thomas Ian Nicholas. I think his popularity stems from this confusion. 757129;1405458550;asciilifeform;Rassah: not very interesting, i'm afraid. let's see the actual grid values - unprocessed. 757130;1405458556;Rassah;His movies are shit from what he told me 757131;1405458573;asciilifeform;Rassah: note that you would need to know the actual physical layout of atmel's die, to draw this picture. do you? 757132;1405458575;Rassah;asciilifeform: We'll publish those 757133;1405458625;asciilifeform;Rassah: it would have to be an electron micrograph. taken by somebody other than atmel. 757134;1405458684;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569043.0;all << check that shit out 757135;1405458684;assbot;Auction of AdBit.co - Advertising network 757136;1405458695;Rassah;Will Atmel know what your seed and other entropy sources are? If not, why does it matter? 757137;1405458734;Rassah;LOL! Um... 757138;1405458742;asciilifeform;Rassah: atmel can replace your sram with whatever it likes. 757139;1405458755;Rassah;won't that cost them way more? 757140;1405458775;asciilifeform;Rassah: including, e.g. one that functions as an sram on all days but every 5th christmas. 757141;1405458798;Rassah;and won't that make an excelent opportunity for someone to sell a device just like ours, using their own trusted sram chips? Maybe for more money, but more secure? 757142;1405458808;asciilifeform;Rassah: but all of this pales in comparison to another little observation. recall pg. 10 of the paper. 757143;1405458810;BingoBoingo;Rassah: ... Otherwise I don't know what the difference in implementation is between PGP and BTC signing << Other big difference is PGP signing has a nice container for inline signatures attached to signed human readable text of arbitrary length 757144;1405458848;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'Skew shift is monotonic with respect to temperature. If an increase in temperature makes a neutral cell become 1-skewed, then decreasing the temperature will Fig. 11: This contour shows the probability distribution at 273 K and 323 757145;1405458869;asciilifeform;Rassah: K, of all cells that are neutral at 293 K. Note that the probability exceeds 0.04 at the highest points; these peaks are omitted to show the rest of the distribution with greater detail. See Section VI-B1 for discussion typically 757146;1405458874;Rassah;BingoBoingo: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- 757147;1405458875;Rassah;Comment: Signed by Bitcoin Armory v0.91.99 757148;1405458875;Rassah;You mean like this? 757149;1405458875;Rassah;-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- 757150;1405458875;Rassah;HOmDGwDHYEtFRXWurHW7km9QCKWJMRVyqfPbsBOEQmvFVLTRQVOTAtB/OZHkTuxG 757151;1405458875;Rassah;UfcLmLUyQoCbsHWrWqApocg= 757152;1405458877;Rassah;=/98y 757153;1405458879;Rassah;-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- 757154;1405458912;BingoBoingo;Rassah: And different clients produce diffent signoturds and expect different signaturds. 757155;1405458924;asciilifeform;Rassah: ergo: if i have a sufficiently precise graph of the temperature of your unit over time, i can infer something about the sram and which cells are responsible for the bulk of the input to rng. 757156;1405458927;mircea_popescu;o look at that, they DO listen. 757157;1405458944;Rassah;asciilifeform: We've dealt with skew stuff too. I don't remember what it was, but it was addressed (I think we have more than enough enropy to work with or something) 757158;1405458946;BingoBoingo;!up nanotube 757159;1405459009;Rassah;BingoBoingo: Blockchain.info is weird abou it, but bitcoin-qt, Armory, and Mycelium are all compatible 757160;1405459009;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'Skew shift is monotonic with respect to temperature. If an increase in temperature makes a neutral cell become 1-skewed, then decreasing the temperature will make that same cell 0-skewed.' << fixed bad paste 757161;1405459015;BingoBoingo;!up MarcSummers 757162;1405459067;asciilifeform;Rassah: the skew we're talking about isn't rng output skew - the kind that can be addressed with von neuman's algo, etc. it's the actual physical effect you're using. 757163;1405459140;Rassah;asciilifeform: From Nikita again: Most cells have too much skew to be useful. We suck entropy out of those whose skew is low. That's why there is ~21:1 cell-to-entropy ratio at room temperature on most devices. They had one device from Microchip IIRC, whose entropy was much lower, but the others were very close to the 20–21 ballpark. We analysed data from MRD SoC, which is in the bitcoincard, and got the same 21:1 ratio. Then I 757164;1405459140;Rassah;put it in the freezer in the kitchen and collected data while it was cooling down. There was still plenty at 0ºC, but it smoothly went down to zero entropy around -20º. The cells with high skew are those which effectively constitute device signature. 757165;1405459140;Rassah;We can say that the skews are randomly distributed among cells during manufacture, and then remain fixed; temperature shifts all skews. 757166;1405459185;BingoBoingo;Rassah: And the last tolerable version of Multibit does something else as well. When PGP/GPG has the ascii armored text block already it just isn't worth trying to replace it with bitcoin signing just to save a few bytes. 757167;1405459224;asciilifeform;Rassah: your friend has cemented my conclusion. i can figure out which cells are responsible for the device's output, merely by knowing your room temperature over time. and then all we have to do is run brute force over the narrowed set. (a few bits) 757168;1405459224;Rassah;BingoBoingo: You could just say "Bitcoin address doesn't support encryption, or storing identity inside the key" 757169;1405459269;mircea_popescu;he could also say "i don't want my signature to be dependent on the code written last year by a bunch of dudebros" 757170;1405459270;BingoBoingo;Rassah: That too, but I just want to point out that even for signing cleartext, it isn't workable. 757171;1405459281;mircea_popescu;understandable, especially as pgp has been around for three decades. 757172;1405459357;Rassah;asciilifeform: So, if I use an entropy device to generate paper walets, you can bruteforce it by recording the temperature in my room??? 757173;1405459384;asciilifeform;Rassah: evidently. 757174;1405459397;Rassah;I plug it into my printer, and make a paper walet. I put it away, and send money to the paper wallet. Then you...... 757175;1405459426;mircea_popescu;takes the stick, puts it in the freezer, melts it slowly, identifies the flip bits, counts them 757176;1405459438;mircea_popescu;tries all values of a few bits and finds your key. 757177;1405459467;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i was hoping he'd figure it out, without you or i drawing the picture. 757178;1405459480;mircea_popescu;he's not tech, is he. 757179;1405459504;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: betcha the tech won't read any of this. 757180;1405459518;Rassah;I am not tech, no. I wasn't aware that these things actually retained any bits when you yank them out 757181;1405459534;Rassah;asciilifeform: On the contrary, they are reading all of this 757182;1405459543;mircea_popescu;Rassah it's not that they retain bits. it's that they retain their behaviour. 757183;1405459556;asciilifeform;Rassah: if you read the paper, you will see that a small minority of sram cells is responsible for most of the 'random' behaviour. 757184;1405459570;mircea_popescu;all it takes is to find which, and/or count them 757185;1405459607;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: incidentally, it may not eve be necessary to capture a particular unit. just one of her 'sisters.' 757186;1405459642;mircea_popescu;same batch, yea, obv. with a little luck they are exactly identical. 757187;1405459646;Rassah;So it's a good thing we're not relying on just SRAM fo the entropy then 757188;1405459663;mircea_popescu;with a little less luck they're identical but physically translated in the plane. 757189;1405459669;asciilifeform;Rassah: also on voice of america picked up by loose adc inputs? 757190;1405459684;mircea_popescu;Rassah do you know what the cook said when the people in the restaurant didn't like his shit soup ? 757191;1405459686;Rassah;asciilifeform: Nikita: Well, yeah, you can narrow the range down to about 8000 bits. 757192;1405459742;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu leave the bits you dont like? :) 757193;1405459760;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla lmao good one. but no, it was "thanks god i put some piss in there too, so it's not all shit" 757194;1405459774;kakobrekla;lol 757195;1405459774;asciilifeform;lol!! 757196;1405459782;Rassah;:D 757197;1405459838;Rassah;asciilifeform: Work on this device was started in early September. So we have had a lot of tests on the chips by people who have been working on bitcoin cryptography for years now. So it seems as if they are aware of most of these concerns... 757198;1405459879;asciilifeform;Rassah: 'they are aware of most of these concerns' << and still did nothing. this, you realize, is an accusation of willful scammitude. not mere ignorance. 757199;1405459896;kakobrekla;do you go to church Rassah ? 757200;1405459933;Rassah;kakobrekla: What kind of a question is that? 757201;1405459934;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc 757202;1405459934;assbot;"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes - YouTube 757203;1405459945;Rassah;Me: You're basically saying that, even if they stole the device and examined it, or stole one that was made right after it with similar chip characteristics, they'd still have 8000 bits of entropy to dea with, making their brutefocing impossible? 757204;1405459945;Rassah;Nikita: Yes. 757205;1405459983;asciilifeform;Rassah: what size sram ? 757206;1405460049;Rassah;From another ech working on this: bruteforcing Ends at > 50 bits for most algos. some primitive ones can be done up to 70 bits 757207;1405460056;Rassah;Nikita: Total size 32 kBytes, we use about 21 kB as entropy source. 757208;1405460070;asciilifeform;Rassah: there are not 8000 uncorrelated bits in there. 757209;1405460086;mircea_popescu;bruteforcing Ends at > 50 bits for most algos. some primitive ones can be done up to 70 bits << wtf nonsense is this ? 757210;1405460114;Rassah;Different guy who does the software commenting about the software side of it? I have no idea 757211;1405460149;mircea_popescu;https://eprint.iacr.org/2010/006.pdf etc 757212;1405460151;asciilifeform;there is some typical 'confusion between the warm and the soft' here. the only bits that matter are entirely independent (in the statistical sense) ones. 757213;1405460169;Rassah;asciilifeform: You will be informed when our sources are released and you are invited to give his opiniion then <<-- Apparently my official statement 757214;1405460182;Rassah;asciilifeform: "He's wasting your time, that's obvious now." <<- not official statement 757215;1405460196;kakobrekla;lol 757216;1405460201;asciilifeform;Rassah: so! product sold first. sources published - sometime, maybe - later. interesting. 757217;1405460211;mircea_popescu;you know, i had told you this won't work about an hour ago. 757218;1405460220;Rassah;no, sources wll be published before product is out 757219;1405460236;mircea_popescu;at least the fact that it's been worked on since sept makes me feel a lot better. 757220;1405460250;Rassah;We have sources, we just don't want cheap chinese knockoffs undercutting us before we even ship 757221;1405460277;mircea_popescu;how much is it gonna cost ? 757222;1405460283;asciilifeform;Rassah: wait. you expect that your target market consists of people who would even contemplate buying a knockoff ?!! 757223;1405460344;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2BPFDFM.txt ) 757224;1405460344;BingoBoingo;!b 3 757225;1405460392;Rassah;asciilifeform: Have you seen the chinese bitcoin mining market? 757226;1405460413;asciilifeform;Rassah: what do miners have to do with it ? 757227;1405460442;Rassah;And yes, if the software and hardware is completely open source and public, why wouldn't someone want to sell cheaper knockoffs? We hope we can still sell outs at a premium, due to our reputaton and such, but... 757228;1405460442;dub;http://www.wankcoin.com/ 757229;1405460443;assbot;WANKCOIN | Bank While You Wank! 757230;1405460449;dub;how did assets miss this? 757231;1405460458;Rassah;generic hardware is easy to reproduce 757232;1405460458;mircea_popescu;dub global cooling. 757233;1405460476;dub;1.21 jiggafaps 757234;1405460479;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you got your pm s off or something? 757235;1405460505;mircea_popescu;dub check it out, #wankcoin 757236;1405460571;asciilifeform;actually i must admit that i am looking forward to these machines being produced, shipping, selling widely. because apparently there is only one way to educate people - let them piss on electric fence in person. 757237;1405460578;dub;https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-WKC 757238;1405460578;assbot;Bittrex.com - BTC-WKC Market 757239;1405460657;dub;Sex! Money! Power!. WANKCOIN!!! 757240;1405460664;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/07/clinic/ 757241;1405460665;assbot;In Bid to Cut Costs, Hospital Creates New Multi-Organ System Failure Clinic | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 757242;1405460677;Rassah;asciilifeform: I take it you're one of those who thinks the only way to create a paper wallet is to buy a used $100 laptop, use diceware with at least 20 words, use the laptop to hash that into your private key and address, write it down by hand on paper using a hard glass surface, and then burn the laptop? 757243;1405460706;asciilifeform;Rassah: hash!? 757244;1405460741;mircea_popescu;dub is the page empty or just too jscripty for me ? 757245;1405460746;Rassah;asciilifeform: I use "hash" interchangeably with "compute with one of the inputs for the formula being your source of entropy, and the output being your private key 757246;1405460752;dub;mircea_popescu: works here 757247;1405460772;Rassah;Or do you think that Bitcoin is not secure, because the bitcoin address is hashed from the private key? 757248;1405460774;asciilifeform;Rassah: i have a perfectly adequate source of physical entropy. actually a small crate of them at this point. 757249;1405460779;dub;tl;dr bid is 0.00009875 757250;1405460797;Rassah;asciilifeform: beer bottles and writin sourcecode while drunk? 757251;1405460797;BingoBoingo;Rassah: Address is hashed from public key... 757252;1405460826;mircea_popescu;details. 757253;1405460827;Rassah;BingoBoingo: I know. Priv > pub > address. I as shortening 757254;1405460836;Rassah;as = am 757255;1405460850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 69 @ 0.0119 = 0.8211 BTC [-] 757256;1405460946;BingoBoingo;If fucking is just about sticking your dick in a hole that accomodates it, I'm just going to get some pipe from the hardware store, saw it into dick length pieces, and sell them pocket pussies. What could go wrong??? 757257;1405460970;mircea_popescu;isn't this fleshlight in nucet ? 757258;1405461011;kakobrekla;and it does sell. 757259;1405461024;Rassah;This ting is made for people who are not techy (most of not bitcoiners) who won't be bothered to create a Tails linux distro on a USB, generate addresses on them using Bitaddress or something, printing to a USB connected priner, and wiping the printer. I think this device, where you plug t into your printer and hit print, will make bitcoin a hell of a lot easier to secure for the masses. And it costs a fracton of what the other 757260;1405461024;Rassah;options are. So, yeah, it's not perfect (with RNG nothing ever is). But it'll help 757261;1405461050;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, I'm just cutting the pipe and selling it. A dick fits, what is this thing where a dick needs to do more than fit in something to fuck it. I'm just taking a shortcut. 757262;1405461085;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo actually, here's an idea : silicone recipients filled with vodka. 757263;1405461088;Rassah;BingoBoingo: IF it's an uncut dick, that should work fine, but you'll have stiff competition from already existing holes, like couch cussons for instance 757264;1405461091;mircea_popescu;you drink the booze and then fuck the "bottle" 757265;1405461095;mircea_popescu;"A date in one!" 757266;1405461105;Rassah;*stiff* competition 757267;1405461148;asciilifeform;bbl 757268;1405461186;Rassah;I seriously hate this keyboard btw... It's a very old microsoft touch-type wireless ergonomic, and it misses the keys around the G and H constantly. But I'm too cheap of a bastard to get a better one. So, please ignore my typos, and don't let them reflect on my grammar skills (I took Latin, damnit!) 757269;1405461194;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That's a shortcut for the consumer. It's the opposite of a shortcut to produce. Doing the minimum is the right way to produce. Never mind we won't polish the burrs off the edges either. 757270;1405461248;Rassah;bbl as well 757271;1405461308;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what, you kidding ? just pour the caulk in a shape. cheapest shit ever. 757272;1405461344;BingoBoingo;Nah, we'll just let people hash their privates... 757273;1405461414;dub;just sale instructibles for digging dick sized hole in ground 757274;1405461467;FabianB;Rassah: so it's mainly for the masses who want to store 0.01 btc on a paperwallet 757275;1405461501;mircea_popescu;FabianB hopefilly more than that, since it'll cost more than 6 bux i imagine 757276;1405461639;FabianB;probably 757277;1405461676;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.40823557 BTC. Current weight: 83,014. 757278;1405461677;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "LTC to $15USD or above before August 3rd" http://bitbet.us/bet/855/ Odds: 6(Y):94(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.59913185 BTC. Current weight: 18,143. 757279;1405461678;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "DJI to drop below 16000 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/818/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.620212 BTC. Current weight: 12,319. 757280;1405461680;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Crude Oil to reach $120 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/941/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.90944413 BTC. Current weight: 25,884. 757281;1405462314;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 309 @ 0.00778049 = 2.4042 BTC [-] {34} 757282;1405463175;benkay; not sure his profession // housewife 757283;1405463440;benkay; so tech knowledge enough to be able to check how the software works, and maybe hardware knowledge to know what chips are being used in the schematic // well if its chips and an rng, asciilifeform's likely to tell you that unless you can inspect the chips (which you can't), you can't make claims about the RNG. 757284;1405463445;benkay;but i'm just a dog 757285;1405463662;benkay; Rassah: I think << you are not the designer of this item ? // hee hee hee hee i'll just pop this corn 757286;1405463939;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 757287;1405463942;gribble;Current Blocks: 310907 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1572 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 51 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17899784284.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.25021 757288;1405463950;benkay;wow what a logwall 757289;1405464000;BingoBoingo;Amazing logwall 757290;1405464032;benkay;amazon assbit 757291;1405464113;BingoBoingo;Maybe there needs to be a backup instance of assbot named buttsett 757292;1405464366;benkay; who won't be bothered to create a Tails linux distro on a USB, generate addresses on them using Bitaddress or something, printing to a USB connected priner, and wiping the printer // this is what one calls a "strawman" argument. as a person nominally involved in "public relations" you should never commit such derpitude in public. 757293;1405464368;benkay;!up Rassah 757294;1405464482;pankkake;Bitaddress, trusting some random js prng? 757295;1405464495;pankkake;also, trusting your printer 757296;1405464527;BingoBoingo;Printers are the worst. 757297;1405464603;benkay;!up Mats_cd03 757298;1405464613;Mats_cd03;my nigga 757299;1405464621;benkay;sup baby 757300;1405464625;Mats_cd03;laptop with gpg died :< 757301;1405464630;benkay;baw haw haw 757302;1405464637;benkay;y u no backup, Mats_cd03 757303;1405464651;Mats_cd03;i can ddrescue the drive if i cant fix the machine 757304;1405464659;benkay;do that immediately! 757305;1405464665;Mats_cd03;i think i can though, just gonna put it through an alcohol bath (i spilled water on it) 757306;1405464669;benkay;oh for fucks sake 757307;1405464684;Mats_cd03;http://www.mpi-sws.org/~stevens/pubs/imc11.pdf real gud paper bout skype 757308;1405464689;mike_c;didn't you lose the one because you were stoned? 757309;1405464692;mike_c;*last 757310;1405464698;Mats_cd03;well yes 757311;1405464699;benkay;moi? 757312;1405464709;benkay;don't crypto and drugs 757313;1405464734;benkay;(do (or crypto drugs)) 757314;1405464743;Mats_cd03;gay 757315;1405464757;benkay;don't hate the player 757316;1405464770;Mats_cd03;no but seriously read the paper 757317;1405464785;Mats_cd03;skype enables tracking by entities other than nsa 757318;1405464789;Mats_cd03;cause lol 757319;1405464867;BingoBoingo;So over a sample size of 2, drunk is less memory bad than stoned 757320;1405464916;dub;narcocryptoterrorists up in here 757321;1405465148;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/samfeldt/sander-van-doorn-firebeatz-guitar-track-sam-feldt-remix-free-download tropical house and sax 757322;1405465149;assbot;Sander Van Doorn & Firebeatz - Guitar Track (Sam Feldt Remix) [FREE DOWNLOAD] by Sam Feldt on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 757323;1405465304;Mats_cd03;oh man that conversation about the usb stick is hilarious 757324;1405465322;Mats_cd03;alf bout to die 757325;1405465645;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: not quite dead. just had to drive home. 757326;1405465650;Mats_cd03;suffering from 'close enough' syndrome 757327;1405465680;Mats_cd03;(the usb stick team, anyway) 757328;1405465690;Mats_cd03;perfection is intellectually difficult, you know 757329;1405465805;Mats_cd03;i found out today someone i used to play starcraft with patented ASLR 757330;1405465808;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Not even perfection, merely "good enough" is a challenge in any endeavor 757331;1405465810;Mats_cd03;what a world huh 757332;1405465814;BingoBoingo;Huh 757333;1405465821;Mats_cd03;(Skywing, Ken Johnson) 757334;1405465860;Mats_cd03;http://www.google.com/patents/US20090254726 757335;1405465860;assbot;Patent US20090254726 - Method of address space layout randomization for windows operating systems - Google Patents 757336;1405465976;asciilifeform;starcraft with patented ASLR << wtf ? 757337;1405466012;Mats_cd03;borked english. i found out today someone i used to play starcraft with, patented ASLR 757338;1405466042;benkay;1. WoT 757339;1405466042;benkay;2. Start business 757340;1405466042;benkay;3. List 757341;1405466046;benkay;hue 757342;1405466088;asciilifeform;'a method of address space layout randomization for a Windows operating system.' << lol! 757343;1405466407;Mats_cd03;i learned today you can sabotage EMET 757344;1405466472;asciilifeform;!up Mats_cd03 757345;1405466479;Mats_cd03;SetThreadContext is non-deterministically broken from XP x64 SP0 to Server 2008 R1 x64 SP2 757346;1405466541;BingoBoingo;!up DoctorBTC 757347;1405466550;Mats_cd03;cant protect any x64 browsers...qa didnt even test it 757348;1405466555;BingoBoingo;!up kyuupichan 757349;1405466612;dub;the real question, is it bongwater in Mats_cd03's laptop 757350;1405466747;BingoBoingo;;;seen Cosmos 757351;1405466748;gribble;Cosmos was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: I brought entertainment & then I faded down to a speck of nothing 757352;1405466972;BingoBoingo;%t 757353;1405466973;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 757354;1405467051;Mats_cd03;sorry... i meant to say it is deterministically broken. the subterfuge is non-deterministic 757355;1405467530;Mats_cd03;also read this today http://www.hexeffect.com/virtual_deob.html discusses VM-based packers 757356;1405467531;assbot;HexEffect, LLC 757357;1405467666;BigBitz;interesting link, Mats_cd03. 757358;1405467670;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: crapware authors went lazy ages ago. most use none - or standard - packers. standard packer -> standard unpacker. 757359;1405467694;Mats_cd03;as i understand it, vm-based packers are really hard to use properly 757360;1405467747;asciilifeform;many people write, e.g. a 'mips' (or other small instruction set) emulator and cross-compile for it. when you get hold of one of these, you can just extract the turd and disassemble using toolset for that cpu. 757361;1405467764;Mats_cd03;most crapware authors simply fuck it up when they try to implement the obfuscation 757362;1405467775;Mats_cd03;and the use-case for that sort of thing is limited anyway 757363;1405467825;Mats_cd03;you can do things like look for the VM license. lol. 757364;1405467835;Mats_cd03;'in the most amateur sense of 'fucking it up'' 757365;1405467877;BingoBoingo;http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2559#comic 757366;1405467877;assbot;Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal 757367;1405467883;*;asciilifeform deals with this crud for a living 757368;1405467918;Mats_cd03;when my carpal tunnel gets better id like to do it full time 757369;1405467935;Mats_cd03;although im going to avoid dc at all costs 757370;1405467963;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: How is that going? Find anything that offers more relief yet? 757371;1405468124;Mats_cd03;its been milder recently, ive been typing a lot less (which means no coding unfortunately for benkay) 757372;1405468154;BingoBoingo;Rest works in mysterious ways 757373;1405468284;Mats_cd03;i tried to teach dragon programming in c 757374;1405468303;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 757375;1405468307;Mats_cd03;ended up smashing a keyboard out of a fit of childish rage 757376;1405468322;Mats_cd03;computers, y u so stupid 757377;1405468348;BingoBoingo;Maybe you should give up and start keyboarding with your toes 757378;1405468380;mike_c;keyboards should be able to take a good beating. otherwise they are by (my) definition not fit for professionals. 757379;1405468410;asciilifeform;mike_c: 'ibm model m' is indestructible, short of power tools 757380;1405468423;mike_c;one of its charms for sure 757381;1405468452;*;BingoBoingo offers a bastard file and patience 757382;1405468480;kakobrekla;btw mike there is a mod where you can make the model m office safe in terms of noise and the feedback is only slightly affected 757383;1405468528;Mats_cd03;BigBitz: which one? 757384;1405468573;BigBitz;the HexEffect link. 757385;1405468579;BigBitz;relating to VM obfuscating :) 757386;1405468591;kakobrekla;the way to do is - insert the very thick dental floss (oral b super floss) inside the springs, between 50 and 100% of the height 757387;1405468613;kakobrekla;worth giving a shot if you own one. 757388;1405468634;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: cheaper to buy the neighbours their own 'model m' each 757389;1405468645;kakobrekla;defo not cheapers. 757390;1405468658;asciilifeform;well - cheaper if your time has value. 757391;1405468699;kakobrekla;well if you count that, depends on the neighbor count 757392;1405468720;kakobrekla;these boards arent exactly cheap anymore. 757393;1405468741;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: they're still dirt cheap on 'ebay', etc. if you're willing to clean an ancient one. 757394;1405468753;kakobrekla;nevertheless people will resist using these. 757395;1405468764;kakobrekla;so you will spend time arguing. 757396;1405468775;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: my recipe: a bucker, dishwasher detergent, soak overnight. wash in cold water. dry overnight. 757397;1405468779;asciilifeform;*bucket 757398;1405468782;kakobrekla;and cleaning is time is money again. 757399;1405468784;asciilifeform;keys & caps off. 757400;1405468794;asciilifeform;takes ~1/2 hr. total. 757401;1405468803;asciilifeform;(of actual doing, that is) 757402;1405468819;kakobrekla;prolly same as the mod :) 757403;1405468823;kakobrekla;lol. 757404;1405468831;kakobrekla;im terminating this conversation now 757405;1405468833;kakobrekla;ctrl c 757406;1405468955;BingoBoingo;!up cowloon 757407;1405468958;BingoBoingo;!up mikaeldice 757408;1405468963;BingoBoingo;!up Ginux 757409;1405469043;BingoBoingo;http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2582#comic 757410;1405469044;assbot;Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal 757411;1405470244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 183 @ 0.00439984 = 0.8052 BTC [+] {2} 757412;1405470433;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 757413;1405470560;BingoBoingo;Lulzfarm https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=696475.msg7464333;boardseen#new 757414;1405470560;assbot;HELP ;SOME IS STEALING MY BITCOIN;IT GOT 1 CONFIRMATION!!! 1min ago 757415;1405471001;Mats_cd03;http://decompiler.fit.vutbr.cz/decompilation/ 757416;1405471002;assbot;Retargetable Decompiler 757417;1405471022;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/07/15/yahoo_quarterly_earnings_plunging_ad_prices_pull_down_revenue.html 757418;1405471022;assbot;Yahoo quarterly earnings: Plunging ad prices pull down revenue. 757419;1405471158;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: 'ida hexray' is the only one i've ever seen that was actually usable for anything practical. 757420;1405471165;Mats_cd03;mostly average overall but decompilation of asm to c is pretty good 757421;1405471248;asciilifeform;incidentally, very few products have a monopoly as total as that of 'ida.' 757422;1405471342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 35 @ 0.02890175 = 1.0116 BTC [-] 757423;1405471358;Mats_cd03;i cant say i like working with ida 757424;1405471399;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: the issue isn't whether one likes it, but whether any practical substitute (other than 'objdump' and 10-100x the time/sweat) exists. 757425;1405471501;Mats_cd03;add it to the bucket list 757426;1405471578;copumpkin;asciilifeform: have you seen hopper? 757427;1405471622;asciilifeform;copumpkin: yes. seemed like a joke (at least in comparison) 757428;1405471627;copumpkin;how so? 757429;1405471671;asciilifeform;the decompiler appears to be mostly worthless. and the tool runs only under mac os. 757430;1405471672;mike_c;kakobrekla: i have heard that the das mechanical keyboards are the modern version of the m, and they have a silent version. i tried one for a few minutes once and liked it. but not ergonomic. 757431;1405471700;kakobrekla;they use mx switches ? 757432;1405471704;asciilifeform;mike_c: the recent 'model m' clones are based on lexmark's version. somewhat shoddier mechanically than original. 757433;1405471709;copumpkin;asciilifeform: yeah, the decompiler output seems kinda flaky and silly. The Mac OS thing doesn't seem like a big deal that makes it a "monopoly" 757434;1405471722;copumpkin;alternatives exist, and buying a mac and hopper can be cheaper than getting hex rays :P 757435;1405471733;asciilifeform;copumpkin: don't misunderstand - if there were an actual substitute, and it only ran under, whatever, ultrix, that'd count 757436;1405471735;mike_c;they use mechanical switches. not sure what mx means 757437;1405471735;copumpkin;but yeah, hex-rays is pretty good 757438;1405471738;asciilifeform;but there isn't an actual substitute. 757439;1405471745;kakobrekla;interestingly, the ergonomic model m goes for about a grand on ebay when it pops up from time to time 757440;1405471753;mike_c;http://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/mechanical-keyboard-guide/ 757441;1405471754;assbot;Mechanical Keyboard Guide | Das Keyboard Blog 757442;1405471759;Mats_cd03;im not good with ida and i cant comment on substitutes, although i have spent a fair amount of time trying (radare, mostly) 757443;1405471766;copumpkin;well, from what I've seen (i just started tinkering with hopper a couple of days ago, so I dunno), the basic hopper disassembler interface/functionality isn't all that different from IDA's 757444;1405471767;asciilifeform;what's 'ergonomic' here ? 757445;1405471773;copumpkin;asciilifeform: unless you like obscure CPUs 757446;1405471800;asciilifeform;copumpkin: yes, i do a fair bit of non-x86. 757447;1405471807;copumpkin;non-ARM, non-x86? 757448;1405471808;mike_c;kakobrekla: yes. "Cherry MX mechanical key switches with gold contacts" 757449;1405471814;asciilifeform;copumpkin: yes. 757450;1405471818;copumpkin;ah, then yes 757451;1405471821;Mats_cd03;as well as a project known as vivisect, which is also python like radare 757452;1405471847;kakobrekla;which ones did you get? theres like 10 kinds. 757453;1405471864;kakobrekla;(marked by color) 757454;1405471886;Mats_cd03;decompiler? not to be seen. but, other RE tools are for the most part available... 757455;1405471895;mike_c;i tried the http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate/ that my coworker was using. 757456;1405471895;assbot;Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate | Mechanical Keyboard 757457;1405471908;mike_c;blank keys.. so l33t 757458;1405471922;kakobrekla;check out also wasd keyborads 757459;1405471956;mike_c;i can't do non-ergonomic 757460;1405471963;BingoBoingo;mike_c: It's 2014 already. Why are they censoring the keyboard's clit? 757461;1405471964;mike_c;drives me nuts 757462;1405471978;asciilifeform;mike_c: what makes a keyboard 'ergonomic' in your view ? 757463;1405471988;mike_c;i like the split and raised ones 757464;1405471997;mike_c;BingoBoingo: you lost me :) 757465;1405472026;kakobrekla;das kbd does not have such one? 757466;1405472040;mike_c;i haven't seen it, which is why i don't own one. 757467;1405472072;kakobrekla;http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_m15/m15-5.jpg 757468;1405472103;BingoBoingo;mike_c: A proper keyboard (portable machine or not) ought to have a Thinkpad style clit. 757469;1405472107;mike_c;interesting. i've never tried the split and flat ones 757470;1405472130;kakobrekla;you can get those. 757471;1405472159;mike_c;BingoBoingo: you mean the little rubber dot in the middle? you use that thing? 757472;1405472169;kakobrekla;or make one http://ergodox.org 757473;1405472169;assbot;500 - Internal server error. 757474;1405472169;mike_c;i only use those for bringing to datacenter 757475;1405472178;dub;<3 the clit 757476;1405472185;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Occasionally 757477;1405472192;dub;fuck trackpads 757478;1405472196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0028299 = 0.566 BTC [-] 757479;1405472222;dub;clit is useless without stinkpad scroll key tho 757480;1405472261;BingoBoingo;What does no one have a scroll button on their keyboards either? 757481;1405472265;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 757482;1405472278;mike_c;kakobrekla: wtf :) no wasd keys? 757483;1405472301;kakobrekla;for hardcore gamers 757484;1405472305;dub;lol 757485;1405472315;dub;extra 1mm throw is making me laggy 757486;1405472318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 604 @ 0.0028299 = 1.7093 BTC [-] 757487;1405472321;kakobrekla;mhm 757488;1405472337;copumpkin;still not mpex? 757489;1405472342;copumpkin;*no 757490;1405472366;dub;scam tbh 757491;1405472410;mike_c;mpex-otc. wadda you want. 757492;1405472434;copumpkin;I thought it was gonna be monday 757493;1405472448;dub;kakobrekla: waiting for diehard cs 1.6 players to take fingers back to first knuckle now 757494;1405472448;mike_c;wtb: s.mpoe @ 0.0005 757495;1405472462;kakobrekla;lol 757496;1405472684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.0026715 = 2.1372 BTC [-] {20} 757497;1405472745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 249 @ 0.00263257 = 0.6555 BTC [-] {4} 757498;1405473486;BingoBoingo;Old news becomes new news http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/only-a-few-days-old-openssl-fork-libressl-is-declared-unsafe-for-linux/ 757499;1405473486;assbot;Only a few days old, OpenSSL fork LibreSSL is declared unsafe for Linux | Ars Technica 757500;1405473843;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 255 @ 0.00261288 = 0.6663 BTC [-] {6} 757501;1405474159;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 757502;1405475038;mircea_popescu;so whenever reddit gets inflamed about the injustice of mp, bitbet gets carpetbombed with bets. 757503;1405475056;mircea_popescu;maybe i should kidnap some of these kids and torture them in my basement, to fix the economy ? 757504;1405475180;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 but nobody uses skype anyways 757505;1405475264;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: SetThreadContext is non-deterministically broken from XP x64 SP0 to Server 2008 R1 x64 SP2 <<< ahahahaha 757506;1405475265;mircea_popescu;o gawd. 757507;1405475281;mircea_popescu;i keep buying the funny papers and reading this chan. then i lol here and i am all disappointed in the funny papers. 757508;1405475295;mircea_popescu;not to mention they're in fucking spanish. 757509;1405475306;nubbins`;was just about to ask if they carry Hi and Lois 757510;1405475363;mircea_popescu;nah. 757511;1405475370;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 you know you can dictate. 757512;1405475456;BingoBoingo;Dictation much like keyboarding is a skill. 757513;1405475532;mircea_popescu;"{to be honest timmy, having read your attempts to make a pump and dump coin, to also make a HYIP scam.. i feel sorry for anyone losing coin... but not so much with you." 757514;1405475623;BingoBoingo;Most disturbing part about that report was he had a whole BTC to lose. 757515;1405475733;mircea_popescu;"i downloaded this from here, and clicked on it,while my virus program was not activ.i just wanted to see" 757516;1405475744;mircea_popescu;impulse driven "halp i am a student i have no monyz" 757517;1405475752;mircea_popescu;student is becoming worse than bum. 757518;1405475779;BingoBoingo;The site hosting the malware in question if you make to the end of the thread atm was revealed to be a "cheat" for some coinflip gambling game. 757519;1405475806;mircea_popescu;yup 757520;1405475914;BingoBoingo;You'd think when somone creates the sort of tool he googled and instead recieved a virus for the tool's creator would instead bleed the target dry. 757521;1405476109;mircea_popescu;mike_c: i like the split and raised ones << i've never used one of the splitsd 757522;1405476170;mircea_popescu;copumpkin: I thought it was gonna be monday << so did i. 757523;1405476200;BingoBoingo;!up hanbot 757524;1405476205;mircea_popescu;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/only-a-few-days-old-openssl-fork-libressl-is-declared-unsafe-for-linux/ << look at that, it was the rng. 757525;1405476206;assbot;Only a few days old, OpenSSL fork LibreSSL is declared unsafe for Linux | Ars Technica 757526;1405476250;hanbot;thx BB 757527;1405476264;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, it was born knowing it would be the RNG. The problem is do the devs make shims or does Linuxen fix itself 757528;1405476267;BingoBoingo;hanbot: yw 757529;1405476391;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: In the comments you can see the new psyops angle, "The cruft was good! Mysterymeat Nourishes!" 757530;1405476414;mircea_popescu;theo's response is pretty weak too. 757531;1405476484;BingoBoingo;Yeah 757532;1405476522;BingoBoingo;The problem of taking action to fix a problem is that at some point you will have to take more action. 757533;1405476537;BingoBoingo;Because you now own 1+N more problems. 757534;1405476777;cazalla;yo i heard you like #bitcoin-assets so we put mircea_popescu in your dreams so you can #bitcoin-assets while you sleep, no homo 757535;1405476827;mircea_popescu;wait wut ? 757536;1405476853;BingoBoingo;http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140715120259 << "The question now was how to integrate it. OpenBSD developers don't like huge diffs for a very good reason. After fixing the inode format and adding new flags, Ted pointed out the ancient rule "whoever touched it last now becomes the maintainer" was valid even here." 757537;1405476853;assbot;g2k14: Martin Pelikan on ext4, filesystems in general 757538;1405476898;cazalla;mircea_popescu, so i had this dream about you, in a lobby, it was eyes wide shut-esque except you wouldn't let me come upstairs where the women were but then you sent 2 down to me at the bar so i was content 757539;1405476914;mircea_popescu;pankkake so how much does a bernakoin go for yet ? 757540;1405476940;mircea_popescu;cazalla o.O 757541;1405477012;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/PDdkcGR.gif 757542;1405477017;cazalla;logs were a good read this morning 757543;1405477029;BingoBoingo;Eh, sometimes I have nightmares where truffles is still on BA and somehow IPO'd his hatred of reading. 757544;1405477039;BingoBoingo;;;seen truffles 757545;1405477039;gribble;truffles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 4 days, 6 hours, and 29 seconds ago: tell me when the experiment is over 757546;1405477043;mircea_popescu;ow god truffles. 757547;1405477063;hanbot;ba nightmares would make a pretty good compendium 757548;1405477087;mircea_popescu;did you get some ? 757549;1405477215;cazalla;who me? no, wasn't that sort of dream 757550;1405477227;mircea_popescu;no lol, hanbot 757551;1405477243;mircea_popescu;of course you didn't get some. you're married. 757552;1405477251;cazalla;tell me about it 757553;1405477305;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ 757554;1405477305;assbot;BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 2.7 B (24%) on Yes, 8.73 B (76%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 81`867 (100`000 to 1) 757555;1405477318;mircea_popescu;3:1 huh 757556;1405477319;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 757557;1405477320;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.87, Best ask: 624.48, Bid-ask spread: 2.61000, Last trade: 624.48, 24 hour volume: 3502.82343466, 24 hour low: 616.09, 24 hour high: 626.25, 24 hour vwap: 622.077369513 757558;1405477348;mike_c;;;calc 3500*[ticker --last] 757559;1405477350;gribble;2185680 757560;1405477391;mircea_popescu;;;calc [ticker --last]*[ticker --last] 757561;1405477392;gribble;389975.2704 757562;1405477399;asciilifeform;it was the rng << snore. big fat surprise. 757563;1405477448;asciilifeform;http://i.imgur.com/PDdkcGR.gif << what's the reaction here? 757564;1405477538;*;danielpbarron is guessing the colored gas is ionized 757565;1405477576;mircea_popescu;no idea rly. 757566;1405477586;*;BingoBoingo is guessing 70's special effects work 757567;1405477587;asciilifeform;looks more like chromatography paper + dyes. 757568;1405477613;asciilifeform;(time-lapse film) 757569;1405477636;nubbins`;i was gonna say colored oil spheres colliding underwater 757570;1405477646;nubbins`;i guess i still am saying it 757571;1405477654;Rassah;benkay: this is what one calls a "strawman" argument. // actually this is what is being suggested that people do to create secure paper wallets. I am suggesting that ours is comparable. At the least because people who use that method don't check the RNGs of the systems they use, and at the most because we don't actually use an RNG chip, and use our own source of randomness. 757572;1405477687;benkay;nobody in this room had suggested that. 757573;1405477713;benkay;latinate dudebro do you even strawman? 757574;1405477811;Rassah;benkay: I didn't say that is what is being suggested here. That is, in fact, what is being suggested in places all over outside of here. No one has suggested anything here, other than that the method I am involved wit is worse than... 757575;1405477911;cazalla;"People think that Bitcoin is too expensive, and they would rather purchase Litecoins. " https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21124.0 757576;1405477912;assbot;Litecoin's silver analogy 757577;1405477931;nubbins`;i think that a car is too expensive, i would rather purchase a sandwich 757578;1405477959;nubbins`;can't drive to work in a sandwich? who cares! 757579;1405478149;Rassah;It's not even that. The two are just arbitrary measures. It's more like, I think driving at 105kmh is too fast. I'll just drive at 65mph instead 757580;1405478238;nubbins`;i think repairing my broken relationship with my son is too hard. i'll just have a daughter instead 757581;1405478867;decimation;re: rolling dice to generate RSA keypair << this is not straightforward at all, and in general you are going to end up seeding some kind of RNG to produce your primes to test 757582;1405479145;benkay;Rassah: saying that doesn't make it any less of a retarded strawman argument in this context. 757583;1405479215;benkay; Eh, sometimes I have nightmares where truffles is still on BA and somehow IPO'd his hatred of reading. // interestingly, truffles is a female. 757584;1405479299;Rassah;benkay: a lot of tings said on the topic of that Entropy device have been very retarded 757585;1405479362;benkay;mostly on the topic of getting entropy out of sram imho 757586;1405479489;danielpbarron;Rassah, you interested in selling your BTC for cash in the mail on a regular basis? I am very interested 757587;1405479516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 138 @ 0.00420949 = 0.5809 BTC [-] {5} 757588;1405479781;mircea_popescu; i think that a car is too expensive, i would rather purchase a sandwich < 757589;1405479785;mthreat;Rassah et al: Would an accelerometer be a good source of entropy? "shake to randomize" 757590;1405479832;mircea_popescu;nubbins` omfg dude i laughed so hard at your stupid driven sandwich i actually puked a little. 757591;1405479840;mircea_popescu;im not even making this shit up 757592;1405479902;mircea_popescu;decimation he prolly means just for the entropy. 757593;1405479918;mircea_popescu;benkay now how would you know that. 757594;1405479931;Rassah;mthreat: Not as much. Since the motions will be repettitive, you will get only a small amount of variance from that. We had considered something similar, with maybe having to press a button a bunch of times and use the timing diference, but it adds an insignificant amount compared to what we get from the chip already 757595;1405479953;benkay;intel boss 757596;1405479955;mircea_popescu;mthreat no. this because the high bytes are too predictable (shake) and the low bytes too predictable (cheap accelerometer fingerprint) 757597;1405479969;benkay;mircea_popescu: re: truffles? 757598;1405479972;mircea_popescu;yes. 757599;1405479979;benkay;conversations. 757600;1405480008;asciilifeform;nitpick: anything you can 'seed' is not an rng. 757601;1405480022;benkay;hee hee hee i got the rng flamewards going again 757602;1405480071;mircea_popescu;benkay eh what, you can tell. 757603;1405480073;*;asciilifeform not really awake enough for a good flaemfest. but will point out that mechanical rng setups are prone to wear effects. 757604;1405480090;decimation;ascii sorry prng 757605;1405480136;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's been all for me. later all. 757606;1405480137;asciilifeform;decimation: why would you want to produce weaponized rsa primes from a prng ? 757607;1405480153;decimation;you wouldn't, if you could avoid it 757608;1405480169;decimation;ideally you want natural entropy 757609;1405480176;decimation;and rolling dice would take days 757610;1405480580;asciilifeform;dice << http://youtu.be/srDronvs3L4?t=53s 757611;1405480580;assbot; 6 45 662 28 2013 - YouTube 757612;1405480643;asciilifeform;^ notice he says 'лототрон' ~= 'lottotron.' the original, in fact, 'лохотрон' - chumpatron. 757613;1405480659;decimation;lol 757614;1405480664;decimation;is that the russian powerball? 757615;1405480672;asciilifeform;originally soviet. 757616;1405480681;asciilifeform;they've used this kind of 'rng' for decades. 757617;1405480737;decimation;say you need at least 2 megabits to come up with a 2048 bit prime 757618;1405480762;decimation;you are only getting ~12 bits per 5d6 757619;1405480777;decimation;the chumpatron would be more efficient 757620;1405480880;asciilifeform;i'll take the liberty of quoting the russian 'law re: lotteries.' 757621;1405480881;decimation;it would be interesting in the soviet version if a coin flip determined whether you got 1 trillion rubbles or a lifetime sentence to the gulag for bourgeois greed 757622;1405480938;asciilifeform;'Лототрону не должны предоставляться скрытые (недекларированные) возможности, и в нем не должны содержаться информационные массивы, узлы или агрегаты, недоступные для осуществления экспертизы.' ~= 'a lottotron must not contain hidden (undeclared) func 757623;1405480938;asciilifeform;tionality, and it must not contain information storage arrays, units, or systems inaccessible to expert examination.' 757624;1405480999;asciilifeform;'В лототроне не должны использоваться процедуры, реализующие алгоритмы, которые позволяли бы предопределять результат розыгрыша призового фонда до начала такого розыгрыша.' ~= 'a lottotron must not employ procedures implementing algorithms which would permit a pre-de 757625;1405480999;decimation;seems perfectly reasonable, except are the internal parts open to examination by the kulaks who buy tickets? 757626;1405480999;asciilifeform;termination of the result of the prize drawing prior to said drawing.' 757627;1405481025;asciilifeform;in theory. 757628;1405481053;decimation;well, everything is deterministic if you have enough information 757629;1405481137;asciilifeform;seems reasonable re: a lottery, yes? but then you get people who for some mysterious reason disagree when it comes to crypto. 757630;1405481256;decimation;quite so. I think the yearning to "see" the data being generated (like from the chumpatron) is the right idea 757631;1405481318;asciilifeform;decimation: likewise, if doubt arises regarding some component, it can be removed, examined, replaced with nominally identical one 757632;1405481440;decimation;it's hard to find good documentation re: how the hell the linux /dev/random pool works exactly 757633;1405481458;asciilifeform;decimation: 'the source is the doc' 757634;1405481498;decimation;yeah, and when you start looking at how the sausage is made it starts to make you feel queezy 757635;1405481831;decimation;https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/char/random.c 757636;1405481833;assbot;linux/drivers/char/random.c at master torvalds/linux GitHub 757637;1405481921;decimation;it's probably okay for many purposes but the thing reeks of being a hack 757638;1405488001;benkay;;;later tell mircea_popescu benkay eh what, you can tell. // this is to imply that actually discerning females on internet is hard? 757639;1405488001;gribble;The operation succeeded. 757640;1405488007;benkay;;;later 757641;1405488007;gribble;Error: "later" is not a valid command. 757642;1405488011;benkay;;;help later 757643;1405488012;gribble;Error: There is no command "later". 757644;1405488017;benkay;wat 757645;1405488021;benkay;;;help later tell 757646;1405488022;gribble;(later tell ) -- Tells the next time is in seen. can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. 757647;1405488041;benkay;so what - spaces don't denote function call from args? 757648;1405488518;benkay;;;gettrust Rassah 757649;1405488519;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Rassah!~quassel@2601:a:f80:551:cca8:730f:58b3:a3d. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Rassah | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rassah | Rated since: Fri Jun 3 23:49:22 2011 757650;1405488592;benkay;danielpbarron: adopter 757651;1405488694;benkay;assbot's an interesting focal point for the WoT 757652;1405488709;benkay;really highlights the -assets group vs everyone else 757653;1405489073;dub;hardly surprising now its full of spurious 'is on irc' entries 757654;1405489245;benkay;will probably approach classic 90:9:1 ratios 757655;1405489293;benkay;but excellent point. way to dilute the wot, mircea_popescu. 757656;1405489653;FabianB;$mpexstatus 757657;1405489655;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 757658;1405489655;assbot;401 Authorization Required 757659;1405491976;Vexual;whoa, ba has sluts now? this is becoming more like a university, next thing you know, i'll have some resources and a consideration 757660;1405492021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 130 @ 0.02890175 = 3.7572 BTC [-] 757661;1405492133;danielpbarron;nothing wrong with a +1 saw on irc, unless it isn't true 757662;1405492163;danielpbarron;and even them, the WoT abides 757663;1405492626;Vexual;;;rate +1 danielpbarron avoids the past 757664;1405492626;gribble;Error: 'danielpbarron' is not a valid integer. 757665;1405492634;Vexual;penis 757666;1405492946;Vexual;but if you're asking i'll say if it can't be done with erlang and perl it's not worth doing 757667;1405493035;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN6uBUypKRk also spss and matlab and whisky 757668;1405493035;assbot;Bashy ft. Dot Rotten, Black The Ripper & Lady Leshurr - Heart Of Stone [Music Video]: SBTV - YouTube 757669;1405493121;Vexual;datafox can eat a bag of dicks 757670;1405494005;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-69_ncALA0 757671;1405494005;assbot;Peace - Money - YouTube 757672;1405495217;Vexual;sup kars 757673;1405495233;Vexual;KRS1 757674;1405495457;Vexual;!up KRS-1 757675;1405495479;KRS-1;thanks 757676;1405495479;Vexual;sup puto? 757677;1405495507;KRS-1;nm man..enjoying our summer time months here. 757678;1405495527;KRS-1;Chilling at the pool, steak on the BBQ. 757679;1405495568;KRS-1;lots of work lately thanks to open source cloud software 757680;1405495598;Vexual;yeah man, novel 2.0 757681;1405495713;KRS-1;Listening to anything good? 757682;1405495750;Vexual;i was gonna ask you the same thing 757683;1405495762;KRS-1;uh well maybe I shouldnt ask..trading youtube links pisses kakobrekla off a bit. 757684;1405495786;Vexual;shit man, im paid up on jukebox creds til 2016 757685;1405495810;KRS-1;haha 757686;1405495813;Vexual;:) 757687;1405495842;KRS-1;ah well nice bumping into ya..its late i gotta get some rest.. i see you've been gone a while u gona be around? 757688;1405495872;Vexual;prlly not this essay is breaking my brain 757689;1405495920;KRS-1;alright slut..i'll be back on in about 10-12 hrs maybe I'll see you then.. 757690;1405495921;KRS-1;peace 757691;1405495928;Vexual;ciao 757692;1405496191;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIeYKAb_Jk 757693;1405496191;assbot;Wax - Rosana (Official Video) - YouTube 757694;1405496545;pankkake;nubbins`> i think that a car is too expensive, i would rather purchase a sandwich <= it's much worse, it's like "I can't purchase a lamborghini, so I will buy a tricycle" 757695;1405496589;pankkake;in the end, the lambo and the dacia will be allowed on the highway, the tricycle won't 757696;1405496589;kakobrekla;next time, get a trambo instead. 757697;1405496591;Vexual;buy it from me 757698;1405496809;Vexual;i do excellent sandwiches 757699;1405498450;Vexual;punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA 757700;1405498450;assbot;Official Video: Snoop Lion "La La La" (prod. Major Lazer) - YouTube 757701;1405498466;Vexual;assbot has changed 757702;1405498688;pankkake;http://youtu.be/yOCxtDHk89M 757703;1405498688;assbot;ordo rosarius equilibrio ~ Do Murder & Lust Make Me Man? - YouTube 757704;1405498719;punkman;assbot's getting lazy, fucking off for hours every other day 757705;1405498725;punkman;kako needs to crack the whip 757706;1405499333;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZma7l6fCdo 757707;1405499333;assbot;Massive attack_Protection - 07 - Eurochild - YouTube 757708;1405499599;Vexual;;;google paris time 757709;1405499617;Vexual;;;google paris time 757710;1405499618;gribble;Current local time in France – Paris - Time and Date: ; Paris Time - Local Time in Paris - Time Zone in Paris - World Time: ; Paris - World Time Clock & Map: 757711;1405499650;Vexual;10;30 757712;1405499673;pankkake;yes 757713;1405499673;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8cXyRpfnQA 757714;1405499673;assbot;VERBS - FEELINGS GETTING IN THE WAY - YouTube 757715;1405499685;punkman;this one's dedicated to havelock bagholders 757716;1405499976;Vexual;ive still got a few rents incase bc goes back to 100 757717;1405500007;Vexual;;ike 10 757718;1405500256;Vexual;realy funding a maythai match with nooone in it is fail 757719;1405500458;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUKjs0DIF8 757720;1405500458;assbot;2pac Ft. Bill Withers & B.I.G - Lovely Day Remix - YouTube 757721;1405500478;kakobrekla;... 757722;1405500483;Vexual;yes 757723;1405500502;Vexual;ill pay another 2 later 757724;1405500777;Vexual;;;google brooklyn zoo 757725;1405500778;gribble;Prospect Park Zoo: ; Brooklyn Zoo NY - Home - BROOKLYNZOO NY: ; Brooklyn Zoo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 757726;1405500800;Vexual;;google brooklyn zoo odb 757727;1405500825;Vexual;;;google brooklyn zooo odb 757728;1405500827;gribble;Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo (HD) Best Quality! - YouTube: ; ODB- Brooklyn Zoo Video - YouTube: ; Brooklyn Zoo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 757729;1405501049;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1202 @ 0.00260521 = 3.1315 BTC [-] {10} 757730;1405501444;adrrr;This is good shit ! 757731;1405501452;adrrr;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6v_AiUK5mk 757732;1405501452;assbot;Ol' Dirty Bastard - Fantasy (feat. M.Carey) - YouTube 757733;1405501787;Vexual;likea blooberg interviewm you don't knmow wwhats coming thru 757734;1405502369;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umyv4ETrV5E 757735;1405502369;assbot;Astronomy Class - Four Barang In a Tuk-Tuk - YouTube 757736;1405502908;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFHjt4bY6VY 757737;1405503223;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIrzbhEGvs my mouse is rubnning outta betteries 757738;1405503537;Vexual;;google las hueallas 757739;1405503554;Vexual;;;google las hueallas 757740;1405503554;gribble;No matches found. 757741;1405503571;Vexual;indeed 757742;1405503711;adrrr;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgVcPxSeYsc 757743;1405503807;adrrr;french bomb : http://noisey.vice.com/fr/blog/time-bomb-explose-revolution-rap-francais?utm_source=vicefb 757744;1405504593;Vexual;aa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k 757745;1405504602;xmj;so 757746;1405504608;xmj;i have a problem that wants solving. 757747;1405504624;xmj;Does any US bank provide accounts that can be opened through the Internet? 757748;1405504692;punkman;maybe if you incorporate there 757749;1405504772;Vexual;looke suisse 757750;1405504891;Vexual;or view t o '15 757751;1405504936;Vexual;not yor dassys bank 757752;1405504970;Vexual;deus : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k 757753;1405505062;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRBdapYgFaY 757754;1405505366;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA 757755;1405506542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 42 @ 0.18373118 = 7.7167 BTC [+] {7} 757756;1405506674;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inn4juu0Cfs 757757;1405508146;dub;hey steve, get better intertubes 757758;1405508555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01547271 = 0.851 BTC [-] {6} 757759;1405510935;BingoBoingo;Death comes resurgent https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ 757760;1405510936;assbot;Game 17 - Death 5949 Life 4051 Year 479 - War of Life 757761;1405511358;dub;+1 for linking GoW to account, it sucks having to actually use bitcoin 757762;1405511744;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 757763;1405511754;gribble;Current Blocks: 311004 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1475 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 18 hours, 42 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18402301785.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.14885 757764;1405512748;pankkake;davout: https://www.contrepoints.org/2014/07/16/172479-bitcoin-ladministration-leve-le-rideau-sur-sa-doctrine-fiscale 757765;1405512748;assbot;Bitcoin : ladministration lve le rideau sur sa doctrine fiscale | Contrepoints 757766;1405514293;benkay;;;later tell vexual what's this essay? 757767;1405514293;gribble;The operation succeeded. 757768;1405514411;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 363 @ 0.00278712 = 1.0117 BTC [+] {3} 757769;1405514472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 546 @ 0.00280716 = 1.5327 BTC [+] {4} 757770;1405514533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 207 @ 0.00282899 = 0.5856 BTC [+] {2} 757771;1405515645;mod6;%d 757772;1405515649;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 517817.43 in 601 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -34.05 757773;1405516067;nubbins`;pankkake will your sandwich be allowed on the highway? ;( 757774;1405516105;pankkake;indeed 757775;1405516121;nubbins`;hmm 757776;1405516123;nubbins`;france sounds nice 757777;1405516254;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/ing-future-bitcoin-protocol-include-central-bank-functions/ now that's comedy gold 757778;1405516254;assbot;ING: Future Bitcoin Protocol Should Include Central Bank Functions 757779;1405516270;nubbins`;heh 757780;1405516286;nubbins`;"a new thing in the future that won't be bitcoin should give us a slice of the pie" 757781;1405516297;nubbins`;or, put another way 757782;1405516314;nubbins`;"bank ceo wishes he could create an altcoin that people would use" 757783;1405516383;davout;pankkake: france is retarded, let's short it 757784;1405516489;davout;pankkake: being filmed by Arte as we speak :D 757785;1405516507;pankkake;BITCOIN = DRUGS 757786;1405516537;pankkake;by the way, Bernankoin's supply is regulated by demand already 757787;1405516557;pankkake;that way, it ensures a constant price of $0 757788;1405516571;pankkake;so where is my nobel prize :( 757789;1405516572;davout;we're not mentioning bernankoin on tv 757790;1405516883;princessnell;mornin' y'all 757791;1405516904;davout;hello 757792;1405517117;ThickAsThieves;mornin 757793;1405517137;ThickAsThieves;cheap coins today 757794;1405519015;benkay;man fuck ubuntu 757795;1405519018;benkay;morning nell 757796;1405519119;benkay;;;ticker 757797;1405519122;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 615.0, Best ask: 615.53, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 615.0, 24 hour volume: 4321.69857992, 24 hour low: 611.13, 24 hour high: 626.25, 24 hour vwap: 620.015222762 757798;1405520249;kyuupichan;pankkake: It already does of course. ING's mindless sellout doesn't realize it yet. 757799;1405521002;nubbins`;man, occasionally we get a customer who has the brilliant idea of saving a few bucks off their order by providing their own shirts 757800;1405521045;nubbins`;except that's fucking retarded because why would a retail store sell shirts for cheaper than a silkscreening business can get them in bulk 757801;1405521050;nubbins`;(answer: they wouldn't) 757802;1405521074;nubbins`;so now i've got a job where some guy paid literally double the cost for his blanks, and they're fucking wal-mart brand 757803;1405521081;*;nubbins` shakes head 757804;1405521253;benkay;http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-producer-prices-rose-0-4-in-june-1405513938 757805;1405521253;assbot;U.S. Producer Prices Tick Higher in June - WSJ 757806;1405521255;mike_c;random fact that surprised me: warren owns 2% of walmart. 757807;1405521272;benkay;aaaand: http://online.wsj.com/articles/when-one-pay-raise-a-year-isnt-enough-1405454289 757808;1405521273;assbot;When One Pay Raise a Year Isn't Enough - WSJ 757809;1405521285;benkay;why is that surprising, mike_c ? 757810;1405521368;mike_c;i don't know. I guess I didn't feel like it fit the rest of his portfolio. 757811;1405521397;mike_c;B/H does outright own a lot of retailers, but walmart feels different. 757812;1405521451;benkay;strikes me as a coca-cola play: the machine will be around forever, selling crap to the lcd. closest thing to a perpetual annuity one can hope for by my read. 757813;1405521480;benkay;or a perpetuity 757814;1405521491;mike_c;KO has growth though (internationally). is wal-mart growing outside US? 757815;1405521535;mike_c;26 countries, i guess it is. 757816;1405521589;mike_c;they opened in buenos aires in 2007. they really are everywhere. 757817;1405521632;benkay;the man seems to know something about retail 757818;1405521890;nubbins`;jesus 757819;1405521900;nubbins`;i guess this is why people hide join/parts 757820;1405521956;fluffypony;can't we have assbot ban people that do that for an hour? 757821;1405522258;mircea_popescu;benkay yeah 757822;1405522260;mircea_popescu;!up Adohgg 757823;1405522312;nubbins`;!up miaoux 757824;1405522330;nubbins`;but seriously though, the guy bought WAL-MART BRAND t-shirts 757825;1405522352;nubbins`;as an additional "fuck you", he specifically purchased shirts that are not 100% cotton 757826;1405522355;nubbins`;i tell ya, these people 757827;1405522397;miaoux;thanks nubbins` ;) 757828;1405522550;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you should prolly start ba's own cfh. 757829;1405522563;nubbins`;cfh 757830;1405522567;nubbins`;;;ud cfh 757831;1405522567;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CFH | The CFH is a hardcore street gang that originated in the Wayzata/Plymouth area in Minnesota. The gang is identified by the color green. The main ri... 757832;1405522571;mircea_popescu;like a blog where lulzy stuff is detailed. "The Shirts Story". "How BFL Delivered and BitBet ripped off its users" 757833;1405522572;*;nubbins` raises eyebrow 757834;1405522574;mircea_popescu;;;google clients from hell 757835;1405522575;gribble;Clients From Hell: ; Clients From Hell: ; Top Client Stories - Clients From Hell: 757836;1405522578;nubbins`;ah ah. 757837;1405522616;nubbins`;an online outlet for my sharp witticisms 757838;1405522644;mircea_popescu;ahgahahah oh help me rwanda. hardcore street gang from... plymouth, mn ?! 757839;1405522648;nubbins`;that's sort of what facebook is for, but i can't make fun of specific people 757840;1405522655;nubbins`;inorite? 757841;1405522661;nubbins`;OH SHIT SON HE'S WEARING CFH GREEN 757842;1405522661;mircea_popescu;what, they have streets in minnesota ? 757843;1405522678;mircea_popescu;i bet the van buren boys could kick cfh's ass. 757844;1405522684;nubbins`;i wonder if somewhere there's a girl named R'Wanda 757845;1405522696;mircea_popescu;lol 757846;1405522701;nubbins`;imagine 757847;1405522723;nubbins`;or a drag queen called RuWanda 757848;1405522774;mircea_popescu;http://nypost.com/2007/03/09/help-me-rwanda/ 757849;1405522776;assbot;HELP ME, RWANDA | New York Post 757850;1405522847;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shake_Hands_with_the_Devil_(book) 757851;1405522847;assbot;Shake Hands with the Devil (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 757852;1405522886;nubbins`;not just belgians on the ground! 757853;1405522889;mircea_popescu;actually, my next door neighbour is a drag queen. incredibly, doesn't like to go out much, orders in pretty much every day. 757854;1405522905;mircea_popescu;isn't this something else ? a drag queen shut in ? 757855;1405522942;nubbins`;not too unusual 757856;1405522971;mircea_popescu;really ? 757857;1405522975;nubbins`;what better way for a shut-in to get out once a week/month than to put on a new face 757858;1405522999;nubbins`;i can't think of anyone into drag that's not at least a semi-recluse 757859;1405523020;mircea_popescu;so fucxking weird, because in my heteronormative cisscum patriarchical view of the world, 757860;1405523029;mircea_popescu;which just so happens to exactly mesh with sanity, 757861;1405523030;*;nubbins` chuckles 757862;1405523052;mircea_popescu;it'd seem if you go to all the trouble to dress up like a circus freak, except permanently, you'd better be very very much INTO circus., 757863;1405523098;mircea_popescu;then again i guess sexual deviancy is born out of psychological issues, not a disregard for social norms in the quest for personal enjoyment. nttawwt 757864;1405523199;nubbins`;i'm into printing shirts, doesn't mean i do it outside ;D 757865;1405523215;mircea_popescu;no, but it does mean you like to print. 757866;1405523234;nubbins`;find out when your neighbour DOES leave the house, and then see what debauchery they get into 757867;1405523247;mircea_popescu;im not about to stalk random people, srsly. 757868;1405523303;asciilifeform;mpex still building ? 757869;1405523305;nubbins`;http://goo.gl/chyk1Z 757870;1405523306;assbot;Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs - Google Books 757871;1405523317;nubbins`;probably best not to stalk 757872;1405523320;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform still. 757873;1405523371;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i used to, when i was younger and less experienced, i'd see a pretty thing in the street, send the guard to tail her find out where she lives. this resulted in lulziness on more than one occasion. 757874;1405523385;mircea_popescu;but by now i just can't summon teh interest on the basis of looks for crying out loud. 757875;1405523450;mike_c;i think your neighbor is just a cross-dresser. introverted drag queen is oxymoron. 757876;1405523478;mircea_popescu;mike_c fucking clown wigs and everything ? 757877;1405523487;nubbins`;implication is that introverts don't perform in public :0 757878;1405523490;mike_c;lol. ok, first time for everything i guess. 757879;1405523494;mircea_popescu;i thought the campyness was the distinguishing factor. 757880;1405523507;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well yeah. 757881;1405523511;nubbins`;you guise 757882;1405523550;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/uXXFbnB.jpg 757883;1405523557;nubbins`;bbl, back to twerk 757884;1405523572;mircea_popescu;omfg nubbins is a crossdancer. 757885;1405523577;mircea_popescu;he TWERKS 757886;1405523701;benkay;;;ud crossdancer 757887;1405523701;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Smashing%20Narwhal | Apr 10, 2009 ... ... brute bulldog bumbercar butterfly cowboy cradle cross dancer deck chair deep impact stick making a delight doggystyle postion appearing to ... 757888;1405523771;benkay;oh man it's too early for me to reconcile the inflation nooz with the steel production glut nooz http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/07/16/pain-spreads-from-chinas-excess-production/ 757889;1405523771;assbot;Pain Spreads From Chinas Excess Production - China Real Time Report - WSJ 757890;1405523856;benkay;demand goes down because prices will be lower tomorrow, which exacerbates the supply problem as nobody can unload goods at a profit? 757891;1405523939;mircea_popescu;yes. 757892;1405523944;mircea_popescu;welcome to the free market. 757893;1405523971;mircea_popescu;people, in general, alone as well as in groups, have one thing on their mind : how to fuck other people in the ass. 757894;1405523982;mircea_popescu;if they can gang together on theproducers, they will. 757895;1405524016;mircea_popescu;the feminist is not interested in any positive goal as much as she's interested in "fucking up" the dudebro. 757896;1405524017;mircea_popescu;etc. 757897;1405524045;mircea_popescu;it's what makes life fun. 757898;1405524186;asciilifeform;wtf is a 'dudebro' 757899;1405524208;pankkake;;;ud dudebro 757900;1405524208;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dudebro | Dude bro's are incredibly insecure in their manhood, which makes them: insanely jealous of their girl friends, overly macho, and laughably homophobic. 757901;1405524228;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform given the comutative body made out of popkids and 30yo unemployed postdocs, 757902;1405524246;mircea_popescu;a dudebro is the comutative equivalent of the feminist, in any nonsexual operation. 757903;1405524252;asciilifeform;aha, them. 757904;1405524256;asciilifeform;lol 757905;1405524285;mircea_popescu;shit i'm good at this, i should make my own shanonizer. 757906;1405524302;pankkake;;;ud shanonizer 757907;1405524303;gribble;Google found nothing. 757908;1405524315;asciilifeform;pankkake: e.g. 'dissociated press' 757909;1405524322;mircea_popescu;;;google shanonnizer 757910;1405524322;gribble;No matches found. 757911;1405524326;mircea_popescu;fucking grammar azi. 757912;1405524461;benkay;%t 757913;1405524464;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 26k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 757914;1405524481;benkay;mod6: atcbot left #pdxtech-btc 757915;1405524556;benkay;http://www.geektime.com/2014/06/23/ibm-is-building-a-cloud-system-in-egypt-and-will-train-100-companies-in-the-region/ // hm no mobile boom over there yet? still getting on the cludwagen? 757916;1405524556;assbot;IBM is building a cloud system in Egypt and will train 100 companies in the region | GeekTime 757917;1405524706;benkay;the Fed said that while it didn’t generally view asset prices as excessive, valuations for social media and biotechnology firms “appear to be stretched,” 757918;1405524757;mod6;ok benkay, i'll restart it. 757919;1405524782;mike_c;who put the fed in charge of valuing biotech firms? 757920;1405524789;benkay;and apropos only of the babefeeds: http://imgur.com/TrwuNH2 757921;1405524789;assbot;I love 90's Rock - Imgur 757922;1405524819;benkay;they're in charge of valuing the whole economy, mike_c 757923;1405524834;mircea_popescu;mike_c it's the central bank, kinda its job to broadly value all sectors. 757924;1405524841;mircea_popescu;how did you think central bank systems work ? 757925;1405524853;mike_c;i didn't realize they were handing out stock picks. 757926;1405524877;mircea_popescu;sector tho. 757927;1405524907;mircea_popescu;this is pretty much the #1 job of the central banker : to evaluate which sectors are overheating and which are underheating, and to try and bring equal heat somehow. 757928;1405524932;mike_c;this is retarded on its face. 757929;1405524941;mircea_popescu;i am not supporting rhe central bank system. 757930;1405524945;mircea_popescu;you just happen to live in one. 757931;1405524985;benkay;mike_c: http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10514163_10153083113518569_5085828363159786149_o.jpg 757932;1405524988;mircea_popescu;it does work exceedingly well in small countries with exceptionally gifted cbs, as romania will attest (and before that, azn minor players) 757933;1405525042;mircea_popescu;when people were bitching that greenspan was "asleep on the job", da fuck do you think they meant ? housing overheated without him realising it. 757934;1405525086;mike_c;and the central bank will do what about "overheated biotech" 757935;1405525095;mike_c;not like fannie mae is funding them. 757936;1405525151;mircea_popescu;taper. 757937;1405525155;mircea_popescu;obviously what's funding them. 757938;1405525178;asciilifeform;Gosplan! 757939;1405525178;mike_c;that won't cool biotech, it cools everything. they have no sector-by-sector levers. 757940;1405525184;mircea_popescu;but anyway, this was the fundamental argument of the euroskeptics as to wtf is wrong with the euro : replacing twenty cbs with just one merely further exacerbates the centralisation problem 757941;1405525196;mircea_popescu;mike_c no ?! 757942;1405525216;mike_c;right, no. *afaik. 757943;1405525236;mircea_popescu;what, you're telling me because the us as a whole is in freefall because pretty much any field you look at consists of people given tasks they can't do with tools that can't do them ?! 757944;1405525247;mircea_popescu;how the fuck was the army supposed to win vietnam ? start there. 757945;1405525264;mircea_popescu;of fucking course. they have no tools and the job alloted is in principle not doable anyway. 757946;1405525281;mike_c;well then stop sticking up for the fed! 757947;1405525303;mircea_popescu;omfg im just explaining how this is supposed to work. 757948;1405525309;mike_c;(that last was a troll ;) ) 757949;1405525317;mircea_popescu;lolk 757950;1405525395;mike_c;benkay: nice pic. is that the last fed meeting? 757951;1405525463;mike_c;!up ThickAsThieves 757952;1405525469;mircea_popescu;anyway, for that matter, the big part in there is "didnt generally view asset prices as excessive". 757953;1405525489;mircea_popescu;translated in normal speak that's "omfg we're losing it across the board here." 757954;1405525513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.0026309 = 1.8416 BTC [-] {13} 757955;1405525568;mircea_popescu;you just picked the other part because you mismanaged your book and are now overexposed to the pits. just like any other young, bright, ambitious GS fundboy. 757956;1405525607;mike_c;hah. nah, i don't do biotech. i prefer revenue-generating activities as opposed to funding R&D. 757957;1405525618;mircea_popescu;(that last was a troll ;) ) 757958;1405525627;mike_c;nice. ok, we're even. 757959;1405525637;mircea_popescu;my magical clipboard, look what things i found. 757960;1405525682;mike_c;!down ThickAsThieves 757961;1405525688;ThickAsThieves;:P 757962;1405525690;mike_c;assbot seems to have this figure out these days 757963;1405525700;ThickAsThieves;http://igaming.org/poker/news/former-ceo-of-satoshi-poker-states-new-owners-doesnt-wish-to-pay-players/ 757964;1405525701;assbot;Former CEO of Satoshi Poker States new Owners Doesn't Wish to Pay Players 757965;1405525725;ThickAsThieves;in case any of you remember the SatPok lulz 757966;1405525735;mike_c;what did that sell for? single-digit btc right? 757967;1405525769;mircea_popescu;which was satoshi poker again ? 757968;1405525771;danielpbarron;how have i never heard of satoshi poker 757969;1405525787;mircea_popescu;this is starting to sound like a psychopath act, "i am now Maria and Maria doesn't want to pay you" 757970;1405525805;mike_c;" he sold Satoshi Poker for a plane ticket home from Thailand" yeah, that's what i thought. 757971;1405525866;ThickAsThieves;lol 757972;1405525875;ThickAsThieves;this was owned by a few assholes 757973;1405525881;ThickAsThieves;one being the bitcoinpride tshirt guy 757974;1405525894;mircea_popescu;of that "professional" douche 757975;1405525901;mircea_popescu;s/of/oh 757976;1405525913;ThickAsThieves;they repeatedly tried unloading shares 757977;1405525917;ThickAsThieves;they got ukyo in 757978;1405525926;ThickAsThieves;angled for me a few times 757979;1405525951;ThickAsThieves;coincidentally one of the pitches was from an airport 757980;1405525968;ThickAsThieves;something like i'm travelling and i need money 757981;1405526001;mircea_popescu;you know, being a bum must suck ever so. 757982;1405526018;mircea_popescu;not so much for the people who've not had a shower in a week plus and are being pushed outof the tenderloin 757983;1405526028;mircea_popescu;as for the kids that keep going to airports pretending like they belong there. 757984;1405526059;mircea_popescu;i'm gonna start asking "aren't you supposed to be cutting some sugar cane or something ? what are you doing here boy ?" 757985;1405526171;ThickAsThieves;the life a man leads is punishment enough 757986;1405526242;mircea_popescu;the unexamined life is not worth living. 757987;1405526265;mircea_popescu;runaway slave must at some point be confronted with the reality that no matter how he's pretending, there's a plantation somewhere missing his dumb ass, 757988;1405526269;mircea_popescu;and a supervisor with the lash ready. 757989;1405526274;mircea_popescu;you don't just up and walk away. 757990;1405526428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79167912 BTC to 12`353 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 757991;1405526472;mircea_popescu;http://www.senado.gov.ar/parlamentario/comisiones/verExp/1918.14/S/PL << meanwhile the argentines want isps to block pronsites. 757992;1405526480;mircea_popescu;this is a country where prostitution is legal but abortion illegal. 757993;1405526489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 22.75826252 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1979 satoshi per share 757994;1405526633;danielpbarron;in all trimesters? 757995;1405526672;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 180 @ 0.0028013 = 0.5042 BTC [+] {2} 757996;1405527938;pankkake;the .exchange TLD seems to be available now 757997;1405527988;artifexd;All these new TLD's annoy me. A lot. 757998;1405527993;*;danielpbarron too 757999;1405528003;ThickAsThieves;i dont have an issue with em 758000;1405528009;pankkake;they're the silver to .com 758001;1405528012;pankkake;or something 758002;1405528057;ThickAsThieves;just means we'll see www. and http:// more in ads 758003;1405528073;pankkake;more tlds is a small chance for less dns censorship 758004;1405528094;ThickAsThieves;it'd be cool to see namecoin get better play 758005;1405528188;artifexd;pankkake: How so? 758006;1405528216;pankkake;http://www.opennicproject.org/ the "biggest" ICANN alternative, added namecoin .bit support 758007;1405528218;assbot;| OpenNIC Project 758008;1405528238;ThickAsThieves;someone should do an article on easy steps to set up a .bit domain to point your current .* one, drop a bunch of trendy words like decentralizedautocoinification and post it to reddit 758009;1405528257;pankkake;artifexd: more entities to annoy, more chances that one puts up a fight and doesn't censor as easily; also, most TLDs currently depend of governments 758010;1405528326;pankkake;some devs updated the namecoin GUI to help with registering domains - haven't tried it but it's admirable volunteer work :) 758011;1405528345;pankkake;otherwise you'd have to write the JSON config yourself 758012;1405528345;*;danielpbarron has some Namecoin names registered 758013;1405528350;ThickAsThieves;yeah you can everything in the wallet 758014;1405528370;danielpbarron;I used to have some pretty choice names but I let them expire 758015;1405529152;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/16/tradeblock-raises-2-8-million-from-andreessen-horowitz-others/ 758016;1405529152;assbot;TradeBlock Raises $2.8 Million From Andreessen Horowitz, Others - MoneyBeat - WSJ 758017;1405529205;ThickAsThieves;“The kind of thing TradeBlock is providing is a prerequisite for smart contracts,” he said. 758018;1405529234;ThickAsThieves;this is the former genesisblock blog 758019;1405529401;mike_c;i liked their mining calculator tool. never read the articles. 758020;1405529446;ThickAsThieves;yeah they made a switch some 6+ mos ago to the data stuff 758021;1405530500;ThickAsThieves;Time Warner rejects $80 billion takeover by a 'determined' Rupert Murdoch 758022;1405531676;kakobrekla;i never head for tradeblock before 758023;1405531762;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron:in all trimesters? << yea. 758024;1405531828;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: it'd be cool to see namecoin get better play << yea 758025;1405531880;ThickAsThieves;i just realized the client also allows for easy NS entry and stuff 758026;1405531943;mircea_popescu;i don't recall what the major drawback was 758027;1405531958;ThickAsThieves;probly that it doesnt 'just work' 758028;1405531979;danielpbarron;nice; what's the punishment? 758029;1405531992;mircea_popescu;jail ? i dunno. 758030;1405531996;ThickAsThieves;need to get chrome or opera or tor to support .bit 758031;1405532007;danielpbarron;no death penalty? :/ 758032;1405532046;asciilifeform;birth penalty. 758033;1405532061;mircea_popescu;decimation: and rolling dice would take days << dice is iirc just about 6/8 of a byte per dice per throw. 758034;1405532071;FabianB;$mpexstatus 758035;1405532073;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 758036;1405532073;assbot;401 Authorization Required 758037;1405532078;mircea_popescu;;;calc 24 * 3600 / 3 * 6/8 758038;1405532078;gribble;21600 758039;1405532086;mircea_popescu;FabianB nop, not yet. 758040;1405532106;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron asciilifeform has it i guess. 758041;1405532127;ThickAsThieves;"The North American Bitcoin Conference Welcomes Bitcoin Novices" 758042;1405532137;ThickAsThieves;to speak 758043;1405532140;ThickAsThieves;hehe 758044;1405532142;FabianB;ic, trying to break the record ;) 758045;1405532168;ThickAsThieves;U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew called for a crackdown on tax inversions, saying the Obama administration needs to step efforts to limit companies reincorporating overseas for tax purposes. 758046;1405532169;ThickAsThieves;“We should have some economic patriotism here,” Mr. Lew said 758047;1405532223;mircea_popescu;benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu benkay eh what, you can tell. // this is to imply that actually discerning females on internet is hard? << yea. 758048;1405532233;mircea_popescu;FabianB not trying, but looks like it'll succeed ;/ 758049;1405532263;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ahahaha seriously ? economic patriotism ? 758050;1405532270;mircea_popescu;us, still copying the french, centuries later. 758051;1405532327;mircea_popescu;dub: hardly surprising now its full of spurious 'is on irc' entries << spurious on what grounds ? 758052;1405532369;ThickAsThieves;maybe if US closes eyes tight enough the rest of the world economy will go away 758053;1405532371;mircea_popescu;what's fucking spurious are all the idiots rating on the basis of a 20 bux moneypack 758054;1405532380;mircea_popescu;fortunately, they're well isolated from the wot that actually matters. 758055;1405532424;asciilifeform;dice is iirc just about 6/8 of a byte per dice per throw << not quite. log2(6) is ~2.6 - bits, that is. 758056;1405532445;asciilifeform;that's for a traditional die, of course. 758057;1405532494;mircea_popescu;ah rught. 758058;1405532510;mircea_popescu;but even so, 10 bits a throw, a 4k rsa key needs what, 7-800 ? 758059;1405532551;*;asciilifeform does not recommend dice for key gen 758060;1405532553;mircea_popescu;benkay: assbot's an interesting focal point for the WoT << didja graph it ? 758061;1405532569;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and why is that ? 758062;1405532579;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: too much like work. 758063;1405532590;mircea_popescu;this is like the silent/loud computer system 758064;1405532595;mircea_popescu;some people like to work. 758065;1405532600;asciilifeform;plus, actual physical dice aren't entirely 'fair.' 758066;1405532605;mircea_popescu;this is why some prefer blowjobs while others don't. 758067;1405532632;asciilifeform;like the 'eudaemons' and their roulette wheels. 758068;1405532655;asciilifeform;;;google eudaemons roulette 758069;1405532656;gribble;Eudaemons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; layout: ; The Eudaemons' shoe computer: 758070;1405532695;mike_c;need zocchi dice 758071;1405532845;mircea_popescu;entropy and bias are not exactly orthogonal concerns, but they're still at an angle here 758072;1405532888;asciilifeform;incidentally, here's a question. is mechanical wear on dice a positive feedback loop - or not ? 758073;1405532918;asciilifeform;and does this vary between the extant polyhedra 758074;1405532941;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know the story of the largest crystall ball in the world ? 758075;1405532970;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/why-progress-is-a-self-limiting-disease/ 758076;1405532971;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2014#754108 << that one ? 758077;1405532971;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 758078;1405532976;mircea_popescu;yes that one. 758079;1405532995;mircea_popescu;thing was made for cixi, whom i've referenced before. the process was, tumble the thing in water + garnet dust 758080;1405532998;mircea_popescu;for like a decade. 758081;1405533010;mircea_popescu;now, is this proof that the process is broadly non-positive-feedback ? 758082;1405533026;asciilifeform;aha, standard lens grind 758083;1405533033;mircea_popescu;yea. always yields a sphere. 758084;1405533218;asciilifeform;always yields a sphere << but is the progression from whatever-hedron to sphere monotonic ? 758085;1405533275;mircea_popescu;assbot: ING: Future Bitcoin Protocol Should Include Central Bank Functions << yeah, it totally should. I'm fucking sick of having to bitchslap people like ing from the shadows. 758086;1405533287;mircea_popescu;gimme a protocol-based steel club ty. 758087;1405533308;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it can't possibly be monotonic 758088;1405533314;mircea_popescu;if nothing else then because of quantum determinism. 758089;1405533331;asciilifeform;right 758090;1405533465;asciilifeform;http://physics.ucsc.edu/people/eudaemons/layout.html << for anyone unfamiliar with it 758091;1405533503;mircea_popescu;mike_c: i don't know. I guess I didn't feel like it fit the rest of his portfolio. << iirc he ended up with it as part of some other acquisition 758092;1405533658;asciilifeform;(note that Shannon and Thorp, who used an analogue circuit, achieved the same result in months that the 'eudaemons' took years.) 758093;1405533672;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: can't we have assbot ban people that do that for an hour? << this actually is a good idea. kakobrekla could assbot put a ban on anyone it sees part/joining 12 times within an hour, with a ban message that "please get in touch once connection is fixed, ty" 758094;1405533699;fluffypony;yeah, I don't want to hide joins/parts because sometimes interesting people join who don't have assbot !up access 758095;1405533712;mircea_popescu;exactly. 758096;1405533736;punkman;and nobody in all these years has made a client with smart join/part hiding 758097;1405533769;ThickAsThieves;^ 758098;1405533781;ThickAsThieves;if i ognore someone, it should ignore joins 758099;1405533809;mircea_popescu;yeah problerm is irc clients sorta went into freeze mode cca 2001 758100;1405533826;mircea_popescu;which is a GREAT thing. nobody's making new "fully featured" irc clients, which then don't work, 758101;1405533834;mircea_popescu;leading to demands to "bring irc protocol up to date" 758102;1405533842;mircea_popescu;like it's happened to the web. 758103;1405533844;ThickAsThieves;yet mirc still wants an update every month 758104;1405533868;mircea_popescu;"As companies try to retain top employees and hit growth targets, some are ditching the annual salary review and doling out raises and bonuses several times a year." 758105;1405533873;mircea_popescu;fucking add taking over the nation. 758106;1405533909;ThickAsThieves;cuz paying them hald their raise sooner will make the job fun again 758107;1405533915;ThickAsThieves;half* 758108;1405533946;asciilifeform;http://www.edwardothorp.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/wearable_computer4.jpg 758109;1405533959;ThickAsThieves;then the joy of double the performance reviews 758110;1405534006;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ist's just another sympthom of inflation heating up i guess. 758111;1405534032;asciilifeform;('cheat-trons' were outlawed in usa - because they worked. but probably wouldn't work today - casinos monitor their own machines electronically and run bias stats) 758112;1405534127;ThickAsThieves;As an interim measure in advance of issuing tactile-enhanced Federal Reserve notes, the BEP is providing currency readers, free of charge, to eligible blind and visually impaired individuals. 758113;1405534244;mircea_popescu;blind people gotta use a credit card whether they want to or not. 758114;1405534254;ThickAsThieves;does anyone work on accessibility in bitcoin? 758115;1405534274;punkman;ThickAsThieves: yeah right 758116;1405534286;danielpbarron;13:40:25 <+asciilifeform> dice is iirc just about 6/8 of a byte per dice per throw << not quite. log2(6) is ~2.6 - bits, that is. << assuming it isn't biased 758117;1405534294;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: braille terminal. 758118;1405534302;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-needs-accessible-visually-impaired/ 758119;1405534302;assbot;Bitcoin 'Needs to be More Accessible for the Visually Impaired' 758120;1405534315;ThickAsThieves;"Most people want to make [bitcoin] accessible, they just haven’t considered it. That’s one of the problems around accessibility." 758121;1405534316;ThickAsThieves;heh 758122;1405534371;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves is't on a computer. what else ? 758123;1405534394;ThickAsThieves;i'm mostly ignorant to the topic 758124;1405534414;ThickAsThieves;i guess OS handles most needs 758125;1405534424;mike_c;one rule is you don't need the mouse to do anything 758126;1405534445;mike_c;(gov't rule) 758127;1405534597;mircea_popescu;mike_c another rule is that you can't send people mail as single-image pdfs. 758128;1405534636;mircea_popescu;anyway, bitcoin as made by saotshi is eminently blind-friendly. you can get everything as json from bitcoind and put it through your favorite reader. 758129;1405534697;mircea_popescu;the thing is that there's this large group of professional rent seekers who are trying to find a niche for themselves in bitcoin, not the normal way (buy some), nor the professional way (join bitcoin-assets) but the fiat way (politicing and derping around). 758130;1405534786;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not the normal way (buy some)... << this is because their actual goal is quite independent of bitcoin. rather, it is: to own people. 758131;1405534802;ThickAsThieves;;;google how much money is printed 758132;1405534803;gribble;U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing - Annual Production Figures: ; Facts About U.S. Money | FactMonster.com: ; The Fed Is Not Printing Money, It's Doing Something Much Worse ...: > http://oglaf.com/legacy 758318;1405541046;assbot;Legacy 758319;1405541069;gabriel_laddel;camgirl script: 758320;1405541070;gabriel_laddel;Mr./Ms. VIP, 758321;1405541075;gabriel_laddel;You are hereby invited to join #bitcoin-assets. The interests of current members include: bitcoin, auditable cryptographic equipment, increasing economic inequality worldwide, non-Von Neumann architectures, etcetera. In short, we're repurposing Earth's resources for the pursuit of our collective aesthetic and would appreciate your input. 758322;1405541080;gabriel_laddel;We hope to see you in-channel. 758323;1405541085;gabriel_laddel;The girl in question should start unbottoning her shirt at the second incidence of "bitcoin" taking it off ~2 sec after finished speaking. She should then proceed to give her show. Presumably she has some skill at this, and requires no futher direction. The video itself should be free of advertising, logos, watermarks etc. and be shot with a high quality camera. 758324;1405541099;mircea_popescu;it's a start. 758325;1405541119;mircea_popescu;but honestly, it lacks a hook. so there's a group somewhere interested in things. why do i gas ? 758326;1405541141;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol yup. 758327;1405541142;gabriel_laddel;gas? 758328;1405541145;mircea_popescu;give a shit 758329;1405541157;mircea_popescu;;;ud gas 758330;1405541158;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gas | gas. shit-flavored air. some of the most noxious is fried chicken related! that fuckin chicken gave me gas from hell! where's the air freshener? by da trick biatch ... 758331;1405541165;mircea_popescu;ha. i invented one! 758332;1405541224;gabriel_laddel;imo, if you really want them here, you may have to personalize the invitations. 758333;1405541236;gabriel_laddel;In the case of Nick Sabazo, one could sponsor a robotics contest for a highschool in his neighboorhood. Rules for this contest: http://web.archive.org/web/20060307220916/http://www.lucifer.com/~sean/N-FX/macro.html 758334;1405541302;mircea_popescu;problem here is this : i don't want these people on any random terms. they have to come on our terms to be useful. that's a big part of it, smart people are great, educable smart people are actually useful. 758335;1405541327;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: Okay, so what are these terms exactly? 758336;1405541351;mircea_popescu;otherwise you end up in corners like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758259 758337;1405541352;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 758338;1405541366;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel well, the problem is i have nfi. 758339;1405541383;gabriel_laddel;;;ud nfi 758340;1405541384;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nfi | Apple touch icon Download the Free App! 1. nfi. No Fucking Idea. The manager has NFI of the work that goes on around here... by KGB July 10, 2002. 2114 678. 758341;1405541392;mike_c;if they are not interested in bitcoin it is a non-starter (orlov). 758342;1405541397;mircea_popescu;but whore-out-of-the-blue seems reasonable as an approach, at least because people who manage to react well to women generally react well to new things. 758343;1405541406;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel no fucking idea. 758344;1405541409;mike_c;so the message should be "this is the smart bitcoin place" 758345;1405541420;mircea_popescu;mike_c you know, i was originally not interested in bitcoin. 758346;1405541435;mike_c;so you weren't ready for b-a 758347;1405541440;mircea_popescu;yes i was. 758348;1405541455;mircea_popescu;the way i became part of bitcoin in the first place was an hour or so on the ba of the time 758349;1405541463;mike_c;but why were you there 758350;1405541463;mircea_popescu;bitcoin-otc, before fuckwit maxwell ruined it. 758351;1405541473;mircea_popescu;lucky thing too, that. 758352;1405541486;mircea_popescu;mike_c i went there because commenters on my blog kept pestering me. 758353;1405541493;mike_c;because you were knew of, and were interested in learning more about bitcoin. orlov knows and is not interested. 758354;1405541504;mircea_popescu;i thought i knew, and i thought i wasn't interested. 758355;1405541521;mircea_popescu;what seduced me, actually, was gribble iding. 758356;1405541526;mike_c;well then why does orlov end up in that corner? 758357;1405541535;mircea_popescu;the idea immediately popped that people who are doing this as a matter of course can't be as stupid as i had thought. 758358;1405541540;asciilifeform;orlov, as i understand, has a very specific reason (i.e. falsifiable hypothesis) that leads to his disinterest. 758359;1405541549;mircea_popescu;possibly because he's older, and has less experience with whores 758360;1405541551;mircea_popescu;or the world generally. 758361;1405541560;pankkake;I had the same experience, I thought bitcoin was only acnee-ridden basement-living 13 year old gamers 758362;1405541564;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform to wit ? 758363;1405541584;asciilifeform;he is fairly certain that we have already been thrown from the skyscraper, and it is far too late to assemble this particular parachute. 758364;1405541592;mircea_popescu;;;google noob mp or how it all begun 758365;1405541593;gribble;Call of Duty: Ghosts has been one of the worst MP experiences I ...: ; "At civilization's end", an MP Megacampaign - Page 2 - Paradox ...: mircea_popescu: Who do you have in mind for this list << to answer the q, actually it's pretty open. anyone anyone cares for. 758423;1405542255;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: orlov's boat routinely floats about in the open ocean. but, as i understand, he still relies on an intact usa for supply line, and has a day job of some form there. but - unlike me - he also has russian passport. and occasionally makes use of it. so he's something rather like a free man. 758424;1405542281;mircea_popescu;just as long as he doesn't allow people to talk of guns in his presence ? 758425;1405542301;mircea_popescu;seems your avg ceo is better of, he just needs to prevent nigger and faggot discussions. guns still ok. 758426;1405542311;gabriel_laddel;So what we've got so far: There needs to be a list of people that we want here, and reasons why. We don't want them here on any terms and since they're VIP, we should have reasons for each of them. Why NS? Why Taleb specifically? 758427;1405542318;asciilifeform;the way i understand it, it isn't the gun per se - but the 'crowd' 758428;1405542323;gabriel_laddel;What roles do you have in mind for them? 758429;1405542338;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel well those two cause i love the shit they wrote and often quote it. 758430;1405542357;asciilifeform;traditionally, usg prioritizes self-styled 'armed rebel' circles for stoolie insertion and gasenwagen quota filling. 758431;1405542363;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel principally, they could tell me (and others) just how stupid we are. or at least attempt to. 758432;1405542369;mircea_popescu;you know, like in any intellectual field. 758433;1405542380;gabriel_laddel;So, peers. 758434;1405542388;gabriel_laddel;That seems to me to be "just any terms" 758435;1405542397;mircea_popescu;superficially. 758436;1405542422;mircea_popescu;generally people want to barge in bringing all the mud of their previous context. 758437;1405542428;mircea_popescu;their bones scatter the logfile. 758438;1405542463;mircea_popescu;where's fluffypony's excellent write-up on this subject 758439;1405542470;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: orlov did recently have a harsh 'brush with reality.' he attended a 'collapse conference' run by his usual circle of people, and was heckled off the stage by 'feminist' types 758440;1405542485;*;fluffypony scrolls up 758441;1405542498;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-22/ there, something like that. 758442;1405542498;assbot;What I enjoy about #bitcoin-assets 758443;1405542511;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol what'd he do ? 758444;1405542512;fluffypony;I should retroactively fix those old URLs 758445;1405542519;mircea_popescu;fluffypony readin' my mind, didja 758446;1405542582;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: described, briefly, here - http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/06/communities-that-abide-preamble.html 758447;1405542583;assbot;ClubOrlov: Communities that Abide (Preamble) 758448;1405542592;mircea_popescu;described by anyone other than the victim ? 758449;1405542599;mircea_popescu;kinda curious what specifically went into the heckling 758450;1405542602;mircea_popescu;!up JAS2 758451;1405542604;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: there's a link to the opponent 758452;1405542615;mircea_popescu;aite. 758453;1405542750;mike_c;ok - compile a list of 20 blog posts from blogs.b-a that are appropriate to target. tweet one a day @ target. 758454;1405542799;mircea_popescu;mike_c think it's mature enough already ? 758455;1405542825;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/05/death-by-political-correctness.html << continued, to some extent, here 758456;1405542825;assbot;ClubOrlov: Death by Political Correctness 758457;1405542837;mike_c;if we can't come up with at least a dozen posts they might find interesting, then we've got other problems. 758458;1405542846;asciilifeform;!up gabriel_laddel 758459;1405542848;asciilifeform;!up gabridome 758460;1405542857;mircea_popescu;mike_c such as that b-a blogs thing is only half a year old ? 758461;1405543000;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: You don't have to tell houseguests to flush the toilet. I see no reason you would have to tell SB, Taleb, etc. that they should use their brains. (Which is all I got from fluffypony's post) 758462;1405543050;mike_c;mircea_popescu: we can certainly backfill with trilema. 758463;1405543065;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel you bring a very good objection actually. 758464;1405543085;mircea_popescu;mike_c that's a point. 758465;1405543093;mircea_popescu;okay, who wants to make a 20 link care package for these ppls ? 758466;1405543102;gabriel_laddel;On it. 758467;1405543122;mircea_popescu;!s gabriel_laddel 758468;1405543123;assbot;11 results for 'gabriel_laddel' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gabriel_laddel 758469;1405543141;mircea_popescu;shit that search is a great thing. 758470;1405543427;mircea_popescu;http://www.sexgangsters.com/ lmao get a load of this. 758471;1405543428;assbot;Sex Gangsters 758472;1405544774;BingoBoingo;!up SuchWow 758473;1405544778;BingoBoingo;!up gfest 758474;1405544783;BingoBoingo;!up andreas_ 758475;1405544790;BingoBoingo;~up gabridome 758476;1405544795;BingoBoingo;!up gabridome 758477;1405544800;BingoBoingo;!up gabriel_laddel 758478;1405544814;BingoBoingo;%t 758479;1405544815;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 35k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 758480;1405544830;gfest;no one here ? 758481;1405544902;kakobrekla;no one here what 758482;1405544910;rithm;knock knock 758483;1405544927;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 758484;1405544930;gribble;Current Blocks: 311052 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1427 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 19 hours, 24 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18078433137.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.2807 758485;1405545059;gfest;!jd 758486;1405545059;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered 758487;1405545459;mike_c;!satoshidice 758488;1405545566;davout;!s mpex coming back 758489;1405545567;assbot;1 results for 'mpex coming back' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex+coming+back 758490;1405545571;mircea_popescu;whoa ? 758491;1405545576;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel so who are you ? 758492;1405545595;mircea_popescu;davout working on it1 758493;1405545607;gabriel_laddel;mircea_popescu: No one terribly interesting. 758494;1405545613;davout;:) 758495;1405545803;danielpbarron;cool, huh? 758496;1405545829;damier;very groovy 758497;1405545954;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 758498;1405545955;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 614.79, Best ask: 616.8, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 616.8, 24 hour volume: 5281.88574680, 24 hour low: 610.01, 24 hour high: 625.0, 24 hour vwap: 617.737429346 758499;1405546008;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I may have missed this in the logs, but what's the timeline on mpex not being kaput? 758500;1405546040;mircea_popescu;i missed it in the logs too ;/ 758501;1405546077;mircea_popescu;it was supposed to be monday. since then, an ever endless list of various issues, which i am taking care of one at a time, at the rate of about six to ten a day. 758502;1405546084;fluffypony;aight 758503;1405546088;mircea_popescu;eventually it's gonna run out of issues, because i'm not running out of days. 758504;1405546089;fluffypony;all the best :) 758505;1405546258;gfest;!e 758506;1405546299;mike_c;!mpif 758507;1405546300;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 BTC (Total: 474.63 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 758508;1405546464;mircea_popescu;ouch who lost wha 758509;1405547088;mircea_popescu;http://srphsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/exchange-bitcoin-for-real-money/ccbill-bitcoin.php << harvard edu isn't what it used to be 758510;1405547089;assbot;Ccbill Bitcoin | Exchange Bitcoin For Real Money 758511;1405547122;mike_c;!mpif 758512;1405547122;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 758513;1405547125;BingoBoingo;lol 758514;1405547140;mike_c;^ now w/ delta 758515;1405547359;mircea_popescu;http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/why-i-want-bitcoin-to-die-in-a.html 758516;1405547360;assbot;Why I want Bitcoin to die in a fire - Charlie's Diary 758517;1405547372;mircea_popescu;"let me tell you what i read on trilema six months ago, in my own words". 758518;1405547485;mircea_popescu;sadly the words in question are pretty fucking retarded. 758519;1405548741;mircea_popescu;hmm, anyone willing to do a $5 cc payment for me ? 758520;1405548781;kakobrekla;i can prolly 758521;1405548885;fluffypony;I can too 758522;1405549179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.00254563 = 5.0913 BTC [-] {18} 758523;1405549417;danielpbarron;mircea_popescu, for BTC? me me! 758524;1405549426;danielpbarron;heh probably too late 758525;1405549443;mircea_popescu;thanks fluffypony danielpbarron, i'll hit you up if this fails or next time. 758526;1405549498;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: charlie stross << imagine if cockroaches could write, and one penned an essay on the harm of DDT. 758527;1405549510;asciilifeform;would it read any differently ? 758528;1405549517;benkay;lolfarm: http://m.entrepreneur.com/video/234738 758529;1405549518;assbot;How to Design a Knockout Bitcoin Mobile App | Entrepreneur.com 758530;1405549572;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i love the inanity of "carbon footprint", "gini index" and all the rest of the idiocy. 758531;1405549595;mircea_popescu;just like the guy i linked the other day, going nuts over someone having mocked him for wearing a gown, these idiots are so trapped in self-referrentiality that they imagine their shit is somehow universal. 758532;1405549628;mircea_popescu;i deeply care that someone fixated on how things should be pink and round dislikes my computer for being so unpink and nonround. 758533;1405549628;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: don't forget: 'stable governance!' 758534;1405549645;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform even funnier, because well... stable is ambiguous. 758535;1405549653;asciilifeform;lol 758536;1405549682;asciilifeform;https://libcom.org/files/images/library/Animal%20Farm.jpg 758537;1405549686;asciilifeform;^ stable governance 758538;1405549729;mircea_popescu;right ? 758539;1405550016;asciilifeform;these folks will indeed 'upgrade' any computer they're left alone with to 'pink and round.' 758540;1405550173;asciilifeform;'progressive' algo: 1) infiltrate everything 2) ??? 3) profit 4) begin to get euchred out of the driver's seat 5) wreck it all from spite 6) blame wreckage on вредители. 758541;1405550208;asciilifeform;we're well into (5) but perhaps it remains possible to throw a wrench in (6) 758542;1405550347;mircea_popescu;!up iluvfedoras 758543;1405550378;mircea_popescu;this idea that the progressive's in the driver seat is weird. 758544;1405550388;mircea_popescu;moiety where've you been! 758545;1405550397;BingoBoingo;!up moiety 758546;1405550525;moiety;:] 758547;1405550535;moiety;short version: life fucking ducks 758548;1405550541;moiety;sucks also 758549;1405550555;mircea_popescu;wha happened ? 758550;1405550559;moiety;i have been reading logs 758551;1405550594;moiety;i dunno, i have this condition where the rug cannot seem to be able to stay underneath me for any length of time. 758552;1405550640;kakobrekla;is that some metaphor or literal? 758553;1405550669;moiety;metaphor...i never get as far as having a real rug :P 758554;1405550702;BingoBoingo;;;later tell nubbins` Do you print rugs? 758555;1405550703;gribble;The operation succeeded. 758556;1405550734;mircea_popescu;ok well, i need a bunch of secretarial stuff done. you game ? 758557;1405550780;moiety;lol BB 758558;1405550787;moiety;sure what you needing done mircea_popescu? 758559;1405550819;kakobrekla;there is this thing that you can put under the rug to make it non slippery 758560;1405550831;kakobrekla;saw it in IKEA. 758561;1405550887;bitstein;<+moiety> short version: life fucking ducks << Yikes. http://www.cracked.com/funny-2938-duck-rape/ 758562;1405550888;assbot;Duck Rape | Cracked.com 758563;1405550893;moiety;i need it! lol i dont even care about the damn rug. i'm just trying to secure a spo for the rug to stay at.. if that makes sense 758564;1405550900;moiety;spot* 758565;1405550919;kakobrekla;oh you on the move again? 758566;1405550943;moiety;not if i can help it. i love the sex weeks flat 758567;1405550946;mircea_popescu;lol what the hell happened ther.e 758568;1405550969;moiety;bitstein: well... um.. thanks... i havent ever been frightened of ducks before... 758569;1405551048;mthreat;https://www.bitfuture.com/ 758570;1405551048;assbot;Bitfuture Contract Platform 758571;1405551110;moiety;life happened mircea_popescu ... just keeps happening. 758572;1405551161;kakobrekla;dat bastard. 758573;1405551200;mircea_popescu;mthreat backed by ? 758574;1405551223;kakobrekla;Created by Jake Boggan and Tim Parilla 758575;1405551227;kakobrekla;https://www.bitfuture.com/about 758576;1405551228;assbot;Bitfuture Contract Platform | About Us 758577;1405551235;kakobrekla;fail link to linkedin 758578;1405551239;kakobrekla;for both 758579;1405551249;mircea_popescu;heh. 758580;1405551276;BingoBoingo;;;8ball 758581;1405551277;gribble;Maybe... 758582;1405551321;BingoBoingo;%ob 758583;1405551322;atcbot;722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 215k@210 200k@202 45k@201 758584;1405551372;BingoBoingo;;;google manul taking a poop 758585;1405551373;gribble;Nigger Owner's Manual: ; Taking that shit to the next level - Imgur: ; constipation - Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine: 758586;1405551382;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/make-stratum-server-windows-15-minutes/ 758587;1405551412;dub;wat 758588;1405551691;mircea_popescu;"Gail insinuates that Albert Bates is an environmentalist hypocrite because he flies a lot. Albert does travel a lot but goes to great personal effort to physically mitigate carbon from his travel footprint, and this is obvious from even a cursory glance at his website. Overall, he is very much carbon-negative, while Gail goes on aimless drives through the countryside in her gigantic, gas- 758589;1405551691;mircea_popescu;guzzling Toyota Landcruiser to look at dead leaves." 758590;1405551703;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what the fuck is going on in this guy's head, engaging in a debate on these terms ? 758591;1405551720;mircea_popescu;what happened to "who the fuck even cares" already. 758592;1405551749;mircea_popescu;"Her blog's comments section is a sort of Land of the Lost: people who inhabit the comments sections of unmoderated blogs, and who are perpetually miffed that no half-decent blog will post their comments." 758593;1405551775;mircea_popescu;fuck him. the pretense that liars & scammers, which is without exception anyone who fucking "moderates" are somehow ethically superior to actual people is morally offensive. 758594;1405551897;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: orlov is an incorrigible believer in an impending pollutionocalypse. 758595;1405551908;mircea_popescu;even if he were. 758596;1405551917;mircea_popescu;it's still not germane to the discussion. 758597;1405552005;asciilifeform;actually it is. he started censoring comments when noticed that 99 out of 100 are 'wake up, climatocalypse is a sham' 758598;1405552022;mircea_popescu;soo ? 758599;1405552031;mircea_popescu;of course he started censoring once he didn't like what he was hearing. 758600;1405552036;asciilifeform;right 758601;1405552079;asciilifeform;he's one of the folks who only like conversation on their own terms. 758602;1405552143;mircea_popescu;that can't be a matter of content. 758603;1405552214;mircea_popescu;This is why every successful community I've looked at knows how to exclude (shun, expel) people. Every successful community jealously safeguards its separateness from the surrounding society. This is critical to their survival and for achieving much better outcomes for their members than the surrounding society. 758604;1405552225;mircea_popescu;see, on some level he understands this. expel PEOPLE. 758605;1405552228;mircea_popescu;you can't fucking expel ideas. 758606;1405552245;asciilifeform;i'm not even 100% convinced that orlov actually believes in anthropogenic climatocalypse. what is more or less certain is that he wants industrial civilization off the gameboard, asap. and is willing to support just about any ideology which promises to help the process along. 758607;1405552280;mircea_popescu;kinda naive approach. there's nothing worse than winning with the wrong people for the wrong reasons. 758608;1405552291;mircea_popescu;that's how all the "worse than before" stories work. 758609;1405552311;asciilifeform;his 'collapse' writings are excellent in many ways, but one gets an inescapable feeling that the 'doctor' is not really interested in curing the 'patient.' instead, he would like to see the patient - and his children, and his children's children - croak asap. 758610;1405552336;mircea_popescu;you mean what, teh us ? 758611;1405552345;BingoBoingo;!Up moiety 758612;1405552346;asciilifeform;even with an incurable patient - the approach is rather irritating. 758613;1405552368;asciilifeform;orlov's 'patient' is all of technological civilization, roughly steam age and up 758614;1405552394;mircea_popescu;also kinda naive. 758615;1405552460;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/epoch-the-self-appointed-worldwide-leader-in-payment-processing-aka-a-bunch-of-dangerous-amateurs/ 758616;1405552621;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i suspect that orlov's personal wank fantasies have clouded his mind. e.g., he proclaimed, gleefully, that the uninhabitable wastelands of russia will become arable land due to warmocalypse, and the era of anglo-yoke will give way to a russian mega-hegemony 758617;1405552639;moiety;thank you BB 758618;1405552645;mircea_popescu;dubious how arable uninhabited land can be. 758619;1405552653;BingoBoingo;Pollutionocalypse is possible, more likely than specific carbonacalypse 758620;1405552663;mircea_popescu;but sure, as the ice moves around we may get to various mineral riches in siberia, canda etc 758621;1405552689;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo not nearly as sexy. it was possible based on pre-ww2 england style industrialisation. 758622;1405552691;BingoBoingo;yw moiety 758623;1405552694;mircea_popescu;modern industry... hardly. 758624;1405552709;asciilifeform;people generally end up believing in the things they wish to see happen. 758625;1405552711;mircea_popescu;one needs to come up with very exotic avenues to realise it, now that simple coal soot isn't gonna cut it 758626;1405552808;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: For sure. I imagine at somepoint biotech polution may fit the bill, but we are talking about the difference between getting a straight flush and a royal flush in a game of Blackjack. 758627;1405552827;asciilifeform;what's wrong with good old fashioned fallout ? 758628;1405552840;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that it ain't gonna happen. 758629;1405552853;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo as a lower bound. 758630;1405552951;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: More possible, but I dunno I'd count that a pollutionacolypse. 758631;1405553076;BingoBoingo;fallout prolly ought to get its own category for its inconvenience 758632;1405553167;mircea_popescu;what inconvenience exactly ? suppose the current level of radiation in japan becomes worldwide. 758633;1405553181;mircea_popescu;first off, that'd take very much fissile material. 758634;1405553204;mircea_popescu;second off, it's fucking difficulkt to achieve uniformity. most likely you'll have to get peaks and lows, needing even more fissiles. 758635;1405553214;mircea_popescu;and the result ? not even 1% culling of the herd ? 758636;1405553224;mircea_popescu;some of the weak and shitty die, life expectancy a little shorter ? 758637;1405553229;mircea_popescu;sounds hardly threatening. 758638;1405553243;BingoBoingo;I worry about radiation producing more stupid 758639;1405553304;mircea_popescu;radiation produces more random. 758640;1405553307;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: except in extreme cases (fissiles concentrating up the foodchain, zapping anything more interesting than a slime mold) what you get is precisely 'more stupid' - that is, a population heavy on the young. 758641;1405553333;mircea_popescu;basically nuclear weapons, as well as tomahawks, aircraft carriers and so on are further elements in a class of weapons inaugurated by the byzantines, with their greek fire : 758642;1405553347;mircea_popescu;the weapons which the eventual loser uses. 758643;1405553375;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a population heavy on the young is not more stupid, it's more strippers. 758644;1405553376;BingoBoingo;The eventual loser doesn't always allow the winners victory unscathed 758645;1405553379;mircea_popescu;and better strippers, at that. 758646;1405553393;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the winner wins specifically because doesn't care about scathing. 758647;1405553397;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: mostly because they tend to get discovered close to an empire's peak complexity (i.e. collapse prelude) 758648;1405553402;mircea_popescu;that's what makes greek fire et all the weaponry of the losers. 758649;1405553424;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform debatable which is the chain of causality. imo it's just because they promote a wrong approach to fighting. 758650;1405553445;mircea_popescu;think of the young russki kids and their street culture. who is going to be respected who doesn't know to take a punch ? 758651;1405553449;asciilifeform;greek fire << interestingly, i recall that opponents captured siphons, couldn't figure out how to work them, threw them out 758652;1405553449;mircea_popescu;no matter how many he may throw. 758653;1405553471;mircea_popescu;"didn't care enough to use them" 758654;1405553514;mircea_popescu;germania and gaul are still fucking germanic, notwithstanding all the genocides cesar & co drove there. 758655;1405553526;asciilifeform;zulus, amerinds, etc eagerly picked up rifles, however. so this tells us something. 758656;1405553529;mircea_popescu;and the latin influence comes from the veterans that settled there, much like a us army guy retiring to vietnam 758657;1405553537;mircea_popescu;indeed. 758658;1405553538;mircea_popescu;it does. 758659;1405553743;moiety;BingoBoingo: i worry about stupid producing more stupid 758660;1405553961;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 758661;1405553974;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: Get your stuff back yet? 758662;1405553975;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform to put this in a better perspective : i do not have dedicated tools to discipline my slaves. i use whatever i feel like using at the time, or nothing at all. i've used vacuum cleanning tubes, wire hangers, braided electric cord, belts, chunks of wook, rolled up newspaper, whatever. cooking spatulas. 758663;1405553997;mircea_popescu;some other dood somewhere has this truely ellaborate and complex punishment station, cost him 18`000 dollars 758664;1405554002;mircea_popescu;plus assorted tools and weaponry. 758665;1405554018;Duffer1;bingoboingo they never got anything, just control of my email, new comp parts get here thursday and friday 758666;1405554026;mircea_popescu;the only problem is... well... in his 38 years of 'being a dom" so far, he's had a slave for a total of 3 years, if you add it all up. 758667;1405554029;mircea_popescu;hue hue. 758668;1405554048;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Reading about "vacuum cleanning tubes" was life changing 758669;1405554049;Duffer1;bingoboingo http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CBkgFT 758670;1405554049;assbot;Intel Core i5-4670K, Sapphire Radeon R9 290, Rosewill THOR V2 - System Build - PCPartPicker 758671;1405554078;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo o was it ? 758672;1405554104;mircea_popescu;but anyway : the eventual winner doesn't quite have the same needs from his equipment as the eventual loser does. 758673;1405554108;asciilifeform;Duffer1: wintel, yuck 758674;1405554154;mircea_popescu;if teh muricans really just wanted "something that shoots and a bus ticker there", i'd have been really worried about the afghanistani. 758675;1405554167;mircea_popescu;as the situation is reversed however... no amount of derpage can possibly help. 758676;1405554176;Duffer1;i'll be doing everything sensitive from my offline comp from now on 758677;1405554189;Duffer1;new habits all that 758678;1405554197;Duffer1;ubuntu 758679;1405554200;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: I might suggest playing around with something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-Ultra-10-Workstation-333MHz-512MB-RAM-40GB-HD-/380441777151?pt=US_Thin_Clients&hash=item589418d3ff 758680;1405554202;assbot;Sun Ultra 10 Workstation 333MHz 512MB RAM 40GB HD | eBay 758681;1405554202;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 wisdom comes to they who get burned :) 758682;1405554220;asciilifeform;'something that shoots and a bus ticker there' >> magical formula! described what i suspect every adult male alive really wants 758683;1405554232;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: You've been burned once, skip nigbuntu 758684;1405554293;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah, swing the thing as hard as you like and on a forgiving surface it has a maximum impact force. 758685;1405554294;asciilifeform;;;google something that shoots and a bus ticket there 758686;1405554295;gribble;Las Vegas, NV - Hotel Deals, Things to Do - Downtown Bus Stop ...: ; Almost Bought a Guy a Bus Ticket | The Billfold: ; MTS - How To Ride - San Diego Metropolitan Transit System: 758687;1405554303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.00739622 = 0.5917 BTC [-] {7} 758688;1405554348;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lmao las vegas. 758689;1405554361;BingoBoingo;Duffer if you really want a *nix for not very *nix'y people Scientific Linux is pretty good. 758690;1405554391;Duffer1;nix? 758691;1405554401;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: incidentally, good student project: msdos port of bitcoind. 758692;1405554412;mircea_popescu;its how they call unix inspired oses like linux when they're being cool. 758693;1405554418;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you'd have to diddle the NIC directly, i suspect, but what does that matter. 758694;1405554423;Duffer1;ah hehe 758695;1405554430;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform looked into it. won't work : no good msdos db. 758696;1405554432;mircea_popescu;takes too long. 758697;1405554444;asciilifeform;no port of bdb ? 758698;1405554450;asciilifeform;too posixy? 758699;1405554474;mircea_popescu;want some novell ? 758700;1405554479;asciilifeform;lol 758701;1405554481;*;asciilifeform gags 758702;1405554489;mircea_popescu;no no, here. it even ha snetware. 758703;1405554509;*;asciilifeform diddled netware as a bad schoolboy 758704;1405554512;mircea_popescu;cp/m seems a better option 758705;1405554524;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: *nix basically refers to everything after AT&T Unix 7 758706;1405554526;asciilifeform;hell, bare metal. 758707;1405554627;Duffer1;thanks man, i'm reading about it now (scientific linux) 758708;1405554727;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: It is a RHEL clone so pushes a person to look towards general Unixy admining habits instead of very OS X type solutions like apt-get 758709;1405554883;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: As you ease yourself into unixy environments consider this advice if you decide to run a full desktop environment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/24/choosing-a-linux-desktop-environment-for-newbs-and-n00bs/ 758710;1405554884;assbot;Choosing A Linux Desktop Environment for Newbs and n00bs | Bingo Blog 758711;1405554919;Duffer1;perfect 758712;1405554924;BingoBoingo;Death is seriously stomping some colons nao https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ 758713;1405554924;assbot;Game 17 - Death 6075 Life 3925 Year 543 - War of Life 758714;1405555278;mike_c;i notice death sniped the last paid bomb :) 758715;1405555386;BingoBoingo;mike_c: If ther is anything to learn from the Atc games, bomb sniping is going to be "a thing" 758716;1405555394;mike_c;recommended strategy: which ever way the house is leaning on the pre-game bets, go the other way. 758717;1405555422;mike_c;BingoBoingo: yeah, i kind of like that. 758718;1405555457;mircea_popescu;mike_c does that actually do anything ? 758719;1405555469;mike_c;hm? 758720;1405555496;mike_c;oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games. 758721;1405555604;mircea_popescu;lol k 758722;1405555747;mike_c;btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind? 758723;1405555813;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 758724;1405555889;moiety;i know youve been missing it 758725;1405555895;moiety;dont try to deny it 758726;1405555901;moiety;MOTD http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e0Jc_Qx_Jj8/TZBDB3xjnlI/AAAAAAAAGxY/UF_j7vw69eE/s1600/Pallas%2527s%2BCat%2B4.jpg 758727;1405555906;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I think giant orange arrows on both sides of the histogram would prolly be least obstructing 758728;1405555907;moiety;youre welcome 758729;1405555919;BingoBoingo;So fuzzy 758730;1405555923;moiety;IKR! 758731;1405555944;mike_c;BingoBoingo: blinking arrows would be better :) 758732;1405555972;moiety;my ambition in lfe is to have a picture like mircea's pyramids, but with me on a giant manul instead 758733;1405555977;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Blinking should alway be opt in 758734;1405555993;BingoBoingo;moiety: Maybe some day you buy Monsanto? 758735;1405556057;BingoBoingo;Or breed Manul with various big cats until large enough? 758736;1405556086;moiety;BB: 2 is more appealing 758737;1405556172;moiety;WAIT 758738;1405556179;moiety;perhaps not 758739;1405556189;moiety;imagine having free reigh over mosanto 758740;1405556199;moiety;reign* 758741;1405556305;BingoBoingo;!up gabridome 758742;1405556312;BingoBoingo;!up gabriel_laddel 758743;1405556374;BingoBoingo;moiety: My concern is that it seems any cat of ridable size is probably going to be person eating. Now if you could get a horse with Manul hair... 758744;1405556391;moiety;what did yous think of that hand held checmical scanner? 758745;1405556400;BingoBoingo;looks like scam 758746;1405556429;moiety;BB, horses are bigger and they dont eat us.... 758747;1405556467;BingoBoingo;Well, they don't yet... 758748;1405556475;moiety;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CcxJQq1x8 758749;1405556475;assbot;Cravendale - Cats with Thumbs #CatsWithThumbs - YouTube 758750;1405556484;moiety;they are way ahead of you BB 758751;1405556527;moiety;HOLY SHIT did you just say a manul sized beast with manul fluff 758752;1405556555;moiety;kk... so... dying of happiness IS REAL! 758753;1405556599;BingoBoingo;lol 758754;1405556644;moiety;aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now you can calculate why im support staff rather than a forerunner.... 758755;1405556659;BingoBoingo;I'm just wondering what happens if manul fluff could scale up to arbitrarily large beasts, like rhinocerous, elephant, or Tillikum 758756;1405556708;moiety;can tillikum really have the fluff and still retain it'[s social standing? 758757;1405556755;BingoBoingo;I'm more wondering if Tillikum can have fluff and still surface to breathe seeing that Tillikum is Sea World's resident maneater 758758;1405556784;princessnell;i am sorry to be the bearer of bad kitsch, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEthXBHsEac 758759;1405556784;assbot;Bitcoin Girl Music Video (Official) - YouTube 758760;1405556803;moiety;i feel like i have an attachment to this thing that i thought you had made up enitrely! 758761;1405556822;mircea_popescu;princessnell no you're not 758762;1405556827;moiety;ohgod nell im frightened to click! 758763;1405556839;BingoBoingo;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuN4qF32q28 758764;1405556839;assbot;Whale Kills Trainer at Sea World - YouTube 758765;1405556871;BingoBoingo;That was Tillikum's 4th confirmed kill of the revolution 758766;1405556895;princessnell;i am expecting big things from this bitcoin girl. 758767;1405556926;BingoBoingo;http://catastrophemap.org/images/tilikum-killer-whale.gif 758768;1405556985;BingoBoingo;!up go1111111 758769;1405556992;mircea_popescu;princessnell the sense to not put her legs forth among them ? 758770;1405557002;BingoBoingo;!up aegis 758771;1405557139;princessnell;i am happy to see that she is diversifying with doge 758772;1405557160;moiety;princessnell: what did you just do to me?! what did you just do yto me senses! 758773;1405557224;*;moiety just watched the bitcoingirl vid 758774;1405557231;mircea_popescu;we should have a groan-off. this vs the taleb vid. 758775;1405557240;asciilifeform;does anybody still use otc? 758776;1405557266;moiety;i went to otc once to tell then i was really me asciilifeform 758777;1405557303;princessnell;moiety, would you say this vid about sums your experience as a btc grrl? 758778;1405557316;moiety;mircea_popescu: lets make it fun... no money. all groans. 758779;1405557331;moiety;princessnell: now at all personally. what about you ? 758780;1405557340;moiety;not* 758781;1405557412;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I still use it occasionally 758782;1405557458;asciilifeform;;;buy 1 "CNC x,y,z stage, any manufacturer, with motors and controller." at 2 BTC 758783;1405557458;gribble;Order id 21092 created. 758784;1405557570;*;asciilifeform doubts that anything will come of this, but tries anyway 758785;1405557621;BingoBoingo;You would prolly get a bunch of pm spam if you still accepted pm's off your whitelist 758786;1405557649;mike_c;princessnell: that video is hilarious 758787;1405557664;princessnell;moiety no, i think this is pretty specific to american narcissists with girl-who-accepts-bitcoin-the-internet-syndrome. 758788;1405557702;moiety;princessnell: so your reason for asking me being.....? 758789;1405557707;princessnell;i was kidding ;) 758790;1405557721;*;BingoBoingo remembers last order getting offers to buy the half bitcoin I put up for sale. Reminded parties I wanted to sell half a bitcoin for $5000 then they asked if I could do market minus X%. Said Fuck you $6000 nao. 758791;1405557725;moiety;noted ;] 758792;1405557735;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i do yes. 758793;1405557776;moiety;princessnell: also...i'm not american hun 758794;1405557790;mike_c;we can't all be perfect 758795;1405557798;asciilifeform;anybody here buy physical objects -otc ? 758796;1405557809;mike_c;pankkake has sold a few i believe 758797;1405557832;moiety;mike_c: the day you offer me a manul instead of a unicorn as national animal.. i'm in! 758798;1405557833;princessnell;didn't think you were, but noted! 758799;1405557868;mike_c;moiety: lol, i'll start a petition 758800;1405557879;*;asciilifeform shopping for object that is gathering dust in many a garage, but would cost 10x the offered price if bought new from reputable vendor. see logs, 'golden toilet.' 758801;1405557884;moiety;win! 758802;1405557975;mike_c;;;view pankkake 758803;1405557975;gribble;Error: No orders found matching these criteria. 758804;1405557999;mike_c;well, he either sold or gave up 758805;1405558013;moiety;princessnell: i'm insignificant where im from.but if we can ever work together, we should :D 758806;1405558054;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform in fairness, im not so sure it works for non-bitcoin stuff. 758807;1405558066;princessnell;moiety always open to creating value with good people 758808;1405558082;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: aye, suspected as much. but worth a shot. 758809;1405558112;mircea_popescu;indeed. 758810;1405558134;*;mircea_popescu is now curious what the galz be up to. 758811;1405558134;mike_c;;;view 20297 758812;1405558135;gribble;Error: No orders found matching these criteria. 758813;1405558146;moiety;same, princessnell :] 758814;1405558177;mike_c;!up gabriel_laddel you should get in the wot 758815;1405558192;moiety;mircea_popescu: prolly working on something to make you smile, no? 758816;1405558248;mircea_popescu;now thats a thought. 758817;1405558303;moiety;asciilifeform: please keep the typewriter til i can buy it XD 758818;1405558316;kakobrekla;ascii if youd only be in yurop. 758819;1405558325;asciilifeform;moiety: what made you think i still own a typewriter? 758820;1405558361;mircea_popescu;"Once cesareans are no longer available, we should expect a lot of those deaths will be in childbirth. " 758821;1405558366;moiety;well.. ok not typewriter... im just unsure what they called those things 758822;1405558371;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: why? you have an example of the item i posted ad for ? 758823;1405558374;mircea_popescu;somebody should tell orlov how caesarean section got to be called that. 758824;1405558390;kakobrekla;asciilifeform sort of. 758825;1405558417;moiety;"Once cesareans are no longer available....." << now thats intesreting 758826;1405558420;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: care to take a photo ? 758827;1405558422;moiety;interesting* 758828;1405558447;kakobrekla;i thought i pasted em before? 758829;1405558451;moiety;hello bloctoc 758830;1405558461;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: i must've slept through it 758831;1405558477;moiety;GASP! 758832;1405558483;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: someone should tell orlov who invented surgical forceps, and what they were originally for 758833;1405558499;moiety;you do not sleep... laser just shines slightly less birght green 758834;1405558501;mircea_popescu;and so on. 758835;1405558512;kakobrekla;give me a moment. 758836;1405558611;moiety;phgod someeone please tell me im not still the only one on earth 758837;1405558624;BingoBoingo;lol 758838;1405558650;nam-shub;!ticker mpex s.mpoe 758839;1405558650;assbot;Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? 758840;1405558659;moiety;oh werll fuck 758841;1405558736;moiety;butbut we are 758842;1405558874;BingoBoingo;moiety: What if they know? 758843;1405558926;kakobrekla;asciilifeform i cant find more recent photos but basically x and y are functional, z is not finished yet but i have the materials. http://imgur.com/a/BuNYE 758844;1405559117;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: what was it meant to become ? 758845;1405559147;kakobrekla;yeah the legs are also missing there. 758846;1405559181;kakobrekla;a general purpuse thing 758847;1405559205;kakobrekla;the Z axis should have something like 25cm of travel 758848;1405559266;kakobrekla;you could put anything on it really. 758849;1405559287;kakobrekla;spindle, laser, pencil, dildo 758850;1405559317;asciilifeform;i was looking for something with ball screws & steel slides, i admit 758851;1405559331;asciilifeform;(need 0.1mm repeatability) 758852;1405559356;kakobrekla;hm i dont have that measured but the step is way smaller 758853;1405559364;kakobrekla;0.025 iirc? 758854;1405559371;kakobrekla;i forgot. 758855;1405559410;kakobrekla;the ball screw is 4mm iirc 758856;1405559482;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: tried it with motors yet ? 758857;1405559489;kakobrekla;yea 758858;1405559509;kakobrekla;12nm steppers i got. 758859;1405559511;BingoBoingo;http://trending.ly/entertainment/11-animals-being-jerks/mocking-a-baby/y_YBmebvj81ei_Fc7Kf4QA/mocking-a-baby.gif 758860;1405559511;asciilifeform;if you go between (x, y) and (x', y') 10,000 times, what's the cumulative error ? 758861;1405559542;kakobrekla;i dont know and i cant test it now. due to lack of space its not in operational mode. 758862;1405559572;mike_c;wtf is that monstrosity. looks like a loom 758863;1405559588;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: let me guess - space is occupied by whatever you machined that thing with ? 758864;1405559590;kakobrekla;i thing me and my friend started to work some years ago. 758865;1405559619;kakobrekla;lol no asciilifeform 758866;1405559631;kakobrekla;i had some connections to people with the big machines to machine it for me 758867;1405559692;kakobrekla;but i mean if there was a real need i would prolly invest the time to assemble it again 758868;1405559760;mircea_popescu;mike_c kakobrekla was making a fucking machine then got carried away 758869;1405559773;mircea_popescu;(the boat part is not visible in the pics) 758870;1405559773;kakobrekla;actually that is the truth 758871;1405559774;mike_c;for a donkey? 758872;1405559779;kakobrekla;it started as a desktop version 758873;1405559798;kakobrekla;but then due to the small difference in prices and procedures to get a bigger one 758874;1405559801;kakobrekla;i opted for that. 758875;1405559809;kakobrekla;now i have nowhere to put it. 758876;1405559811;kakobrekla;:D 758877;1405560425;moiety;which one of you did this? http://imgur.com/gallery/IYXwQPn be honest now 758878;1405560425;assbot;Nobody ever accepts my invitation :( - Imgur 758879;1405560446;kakobrekla;twas tradefortress 758880;1405560463;moiety;is h really free hugs now? 758881;1405560467;moiety;he* 758882;1405560471;kakobrekla;mhm 758883;1405560631;BingoBoingo;http://terminallance.com/2014/07/15/terminal-lance-the-metal-donkey/ 758884;1405560632;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance “The Metal Donkey” 758885;1405560695;moiety;do scammers have day jobs too? 758886;1405560748;moiety;ive been trying to track how much this stuff would take. they need a dayfund or an undocumented skill 758887;1405560810;benkay;http://www.esquire.com/features/american-dog-0814 758888;1405560810;assbot;The State of The American Dog - Esquire 758889;1405560851;moiety;kakobrekla: why did my hug fund not work?! is it because it wasnt free?! 758890;1405560859;artifexd;GSD's are the best dogs 758891;1405560868;moiety;artifexd: so true 758892;1405560896;kakobrekla;you have a hug fund? thats new to me. did it ipo? 758893;1405560902;artifexd;http://i.imgur.com/97MFpmP.png <- mine 758894;1405560936;moiety;mama-mo just acquired a new pooch - cocker spaniel tho 758895;1405560957;moiety;artifexd: beautiful! 758896;1405560966;mircea_popescu;artifexd aahahah that's a good dog. 758897;1405560968;artifexd;Other types of dogs have their place. But that place is not in my house. 758898;1405560984;moiety;kakobrekla: i think i failed by not having an ipo 758899;1405560989;artifexd;She's 7 months old in that 2 month old picture. 758900;1405560998;mircea_popescu;what's she begging for ? 758901;1405561007;artifexd;Nothing. She's just chilling. 758902;1405561018;benkay;she's a beaut 758903;1405561038;moiety;saw a gentleman out other day with 5 GSDs. all differing colourings. must have been a breeder 758904;1405561039;artifexd;Thanks. 758905;1405561064;artifexd;Can you believe that the AKC considers a white GSD a defect? 758906;1405561073;moiety;WUT 758907;1405561079;artifexd;Yup 758908;1405561080;moiety;how does that even 758909;1405561081;moiety;why? 758910;1405561085;BingoBoingo;Almost got a dog last week... 758911;1405561103;moiety;BB... i disappoint at the @almost@ 758912;1405561106;artifexd;https://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/breed_standard.cfm 758913;1405561120;artifexd;I have no idea. They have some crazy ideas. 758914;1405561163;moiety;artifexd: the one i grew up with was incredibly nervous. perfect show lines aside from the fear so we got her as a pet. most wonderful creature 758915;1405561174;artifexd;Look at the bottom of that link. Under disqualifications, "White dogs" 758916;1405561192;cazalla;i don't know how anyone can have animals in their house tbh 758917;1405561236;cazalla;then again, i eat my pets 758918;1405561242;BingoBoingo;moiety: I was going for a walk at about 2 in the morning and some stranger yells "Is this your dog". The dog in question is a brown bull mastiff puppy about 24 inches tall at the withers. Dude has it leashed to his belt says it ran in front of his truck.... 758919;1405561243;moiety;@disqualifications: Any dog that attempts to bite the judge.<< lololololololol 758920;1405561243;artifexd;Different strokes for different folks. My wife feels the same way. She deals with it though. 758921;1405561270;moiety;cazalla: what pets do you eat?! 758922;1405561296;cazalla;rabbits, manuls, anything 758923;1405561304;artifexd;Manuls!?!?! 758924;1405561307;artifexd;lol 758925;1405561323;moiety;BingoBoingo: omg that man needs eaten imo 758926;1405561334;moiety;and not in thwe way he would like 758927;1405561346;cazalla;moiety: seriously though, rabbits 758928;1405561375;moiety;cazalla: GASP manuls would leave you bald bfore you had a mouthful! 758929;1405561385;moiety;rabbits really? 758930;1405561391;artifexd;When I was growing up, I had a pet rabbit named Ghost. One day I come home from school and we have soup for lunch. It was different. After dinner I asked what it was. My dad replied "Ghost soup". Sure enough. I had just eaten my pet. 758931;1405561401;moiety;theres nmillions round here but people just dont eat them anymore 758932;1405561402;BingoBoingo;moiety: Lol, I considered saying yes that's my dog, but... way too friendly for a bull mastiff. Such a dog allow some stranger to leash it with a belt without a fight. 758933;1405561428;BingoBoingo;rabbits are delicious 758934;1405561432;cazalla;artifexd: i can't wait to pull a similar joke on my son 758935;1405561434;benkay;artifexd: mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHE9CK8HKQ 758936;1405561434;assbot;galileo - YouTube 758937;1405561447;moiety;BB this makes me so sad though, cus they are just more open to fighing breeding? 758938;1405561487;moiety;ITS POOCH! 758939;1405561504;artifexd;benkay: Did he give it back to you? My dog likes to run around with the ball (a green soccer ball) for a while before she brings it back. 758940;1405561507;benkay;80 pounds of high-efficiency dog engine. 758941;1405561516;benkay;oh yeah. 758942;1405561526;benkay;lol i can't give g a soccer ball - he'd rather destroy it than anything else. 758943;1405561557;artifexd;Oh, the ball has a 100 punctures in it, but it is still her favorite. 758944;1405561565;artifexd;Is your dog 80 lbs in the video? 758945;1405561568;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, it is a guard dog breed and I have nothing for such a dog to guard, especially while not being so friendly 758946;1405561584;benkay;this group of hipsters plays dodgeball in the tennis courts you can see behind me in that video every monday, and frequently leave deflated dogeballs behind. rubber sacks the miniature dragon in question would rather rip to shreds than chase. 758947;1405561603;benkay;artifexd: you bet. 758948;1405561607;benkay;maybe 75. 758949;1405561614;benkay;he oscillates, as do we all. 758950;1405561615;artifexd;Dense 758951;1405561661;benkay;yeah. there's not much by way of hair on the animal. 758952;1405561665;artifexd;Beautiful. Not a GSD. ;) But still beautiful. 758953;1405561672;benkay;that volume is all muscle and bone. 758954;1405561677;benkay;thanks! i'm enamored. 758955;1405561690;moiety;BingoBoingo: yes you do. you. 758956;1405561737;artifexd;I'm going to Ecuador for a week so I just dropped her off with our trainer to kennel her. I'm feeling a little... I don't know. But she's on my mind. Hence the discussion. 758957;1405561784;moiety;:] 758958;1405561800;moiety;she will have missed you just as much artifexd :] 758959;1405561833;artifexd;It'll be the first time she's ever been away from me for more than an hour since she was 8 weeks old. 758960;1405561889;BingoBoingo;moiety: Maybe? I dunno... Loud dog that grows to that size as an adult, as opposed to one that's still a growing puppy at that size seems more practical to feed 758961;1405561921;moiety;i think that wiull be the biggest thing for her artifexd ... but she will manage and so will you :] and the cuddles after twill prove it :D 758962;1405561965;moiety;BB you thinking on epxanding ghr boinge family name?? 758963;1405561993;moiety;expanding the boingo family na,e* (sorry elvis on keyboard) 758964;1405561998;moiety;naMe 758965;1405562024;BingoBoingo;moiety: Maybe eventually 758966;1405562123;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/derek-jeter-and-adam-wainwright-saved-the-all-star-game-1605850842 758967;1405562124;assbot;Derek Jeter And Adam Wainwright Saved The All-Star Game 758968;1405562197;benkay;grammae question 758969;1405562200;benkay;grammar* 758970;1405562218;BingoBoingo;!up Rawted 758971;1405562222;benkay;"cost control on which , the least technical stakeholder relied in extremis" 758972;1405562231;Rawted;Hello Bingo 758973;1405562240;benkay;this is a correct use of "in extremis, correct?" 758974;1405562244;Rawted;;;eauth rawted 758975;1405562244;gribble;Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AC353E7BF1AD95E 758976;1405562245;benkay;"in extremis", correct? 758977;1405562249;BingoBoingo;Hello Rawted, what brings you around these parts? 758978;1405562250;moiety;BB but you have to. so like to conferences we can send you and the dog.. like..: yes this is dog... bingoboino's dog so Fuuuuuuuuuuuu - kinda thing 758979;1405562286;Rawted;someone's nick squatting on my nick. its been long enough that i havent logged into otc that the enfore wore off 758980;1405562293;Rawted;so i am trying to remember how to do it again 758981;1405562305;moiety;it does not wear pff 758982;1405562311;BingoBoingo;moiety: This is why I hang out with my brother's dog occasionally. So I don't have to do the heavy lifting. 758983;1405562314;moiety;you set it to on, it stays on 758984;1405562325;Rawted;michail told me after 10 weeks it falls off and i need to log back in. said someone was squatting on my nick today 758985;1405562328;BingoBoingo;moiety: Well, this is the freenode thing about the nicks 758986;1405562367;moiety;Rawted: what was your usual nick? 758987;1405562370;Rawted;that's me. you'll see michail's positive rating changed today because of it - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Rawted 758988;1405562371;assbot;Rating Details for User 'Rawted' 758989;1405562378;moiety;BingoBoingo: whyyyyyyyyyyyyy is nothing siiiiimple? 758990;1405562396;BingoBoingo;moiety: Because Freenode is always the weakest link 758991;1405562408;moiety;and having strokes every third day 758992;1405562508;Rawted;verify message, right? 758993;1405562524;Rawted;in the new core distro 758994;1405562536;mircea_popescu;o look, Rawted 758995;1405562537;moiety;BingoBoingo: btw, you mentioned lucite g-blocks. i wondered about keyrings also? 758996;1405562550;mircea_popescu;;;rated Rawted 758997;1405562550;Rawted;MP 758998;1405562551;gribble;You have not yet rated user Rawted 758999;1405562557;Rawted;long time 759000;1405562569;mircea_popescu;you go ;;eauth rawted then ;;everify 759001;1405562580;BingoBoingo;moiety: Wouldn't hurt... In what context did I mention those? 759002;1405562588;Rawted;yeah core is telling my it doesnt match when i try to verify 759003;1405562594;Rawted;positive i have original addy 759004;1405562602;Rawted;*telling me 759005;1405562618;BingoBoingo;-1 to Bitcoin signature's for shit other than tx signing 759006;1405562645;moiety;BingoBoingo: it was a random birthing of creativity on your part i think. 759007;1405562662;Rawted;;;eauth rawted 759008;1405562663;gribble;Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AC353E7BF1AD95E 759009;1405562688;BingoBoingo;Huh, well... Imma trying to remember what sort of lucite blocks I'd invented the idea of then... 759010;1405562692;moiety;BingoBoingo: HOW about the paperweitghts lit up though? as per transaction or confirmation? 759011;1405562702;BingoBoingo;Oh, those ones 759012;1405562711;moiety;wtf what ones 759013;1405562733;Rawted;;;everify ICSqGoHFAe/sqnnDOELuqmT4T1wsDY63WKblTySQoGJ4mPVWGwFAxhF+kAVQtkv/E41SyAvvzvfC1mV2OwWdf94= 759014;1405562734;gribble;Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. 759015;1405562738;Rawted;the fuck 759016;1405562755;moiety;i was thinking lucite cube avec neopixel stick 759017;1405562773;BingoBoingo;Rawted: ;;eauth is decrypt with GPG 759018;1405562782;moiety;Rawted: did you decrypt the thing given to you? 759019;1405562797;Rawted;whats the one for btc addy lo. been a while... 759020;1405562823;BingoBoingo;moiety: Blockchain as a collection of lucite bocks with the data engraved. Machine spits a new one out each time a new one is confirmed 759021;1405562830;benkay;bcauth, bcverify Rawted ? 759022;1405562839;Rawted;duh. thanks bud 759023;1405562842;Rawted;;;bcauth 759024;1405562842;gribble;(bcauth ) -- Initiate authentication for user . You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes. 759025;1405562845;Rawted;;;bcauth rawted 759026;1405562846;gribble;Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4b0e85c80194640f05fece026b398166bbbbacfa29240283791183b5 759027;1405562846;moiety;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication 759028;1405562848;assbot;Bitcoin address authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 759029;1405562878;moiety;also... gribble works in pm..cus.. other folk like to talk too sometimes n all that :] 759030;1405562882;Rawted;;;bcverify H3nydUdT1oCchrdkEc67WtC9QaQXieVlZTsdtZmgJyl6cG9OuUXB4NtGvIJXNjrsH9JhNIWcrKFJEz0I0U2YHeQ= 759031;1405562884;gribble;You are now authenticated for user 'Rawted' with address 16JCobZmcPkLCVzi9G7rnf7mJgbbJd1DLT 759032;1405562888;Rawted;;;voiceme 759033;1405562904;benkay;it's !up, i think that you want. 759034;1405562911;Rawted;so much has changed 759035;1405562912;Rawted;thanks 759036;1405562914;BingoBoingo;Rawted: You need to pm assbot !up 759037;1405562988;Rawted;Thanks for the help everyone, hopefully that reenforces the nick 759038;1405562990;Rawted;have a great night 759039;1405563008;benkay;ciao 759040;1405563066;benkay; not that it'd be so hard to repurpose a botnet for utterly destroying twitter. // now there's a notion 759041;1405563137;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 759042;1405563138;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.9, Best ask: 616.89, Bid-ask spread: 2.99000, Last trade: 614.18, 24 hour volume: 5390.40583525, 24 hour low: 610.01, 24 hour high: 625.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.720660682 759043;1405563234;mircea_popescu;benkay all it needs is a bunch of ips making accoutns and generating text. 759044;1405563248;mircea_popescu;by the time every human is surrounded by 100s of bots, it's dead. 759045;1405563270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11500 @ 0.00006689 = 0.7692 BTC [+] {2} 759046;1405563272;benkay;I FUCKING LOVE IT 759047;1405563289;benkay;i will bring ruination on all social everythings 759048;1405563297;benkay;why is griefing the platform not a thing? 759049;1405563308;benkay;griefing users is boring. grief the platform. 759050;1405563346;moiety;yeah 759051;1405563364;benkay;lol yeah moiety you know all about that huh 759052;1405563389;moiety;ofc i know everything about everything tho 759053;1405563414;moiety;no wait im usually the platform being griefed! 759054;1405563507;moiety;can i just say tht ^ made sense in my head before aloudness?! 759055;1405563558;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/140WS46.txt ) 759056;1405563558;BingoBoingo;!b 2 759057;1405563593;benkay;been drinkin, moiety ? 759058;1405563598;moiety;i was just about to ask you not to do that too 759059;1405563650;benkay;reaction time 759060;1405563662;BingoBoingo;I've been drinking 759061;1405563667;benkay;i've had...a beer. 759062;1405563673;moiety;benkay, obv no. sort of. 759063;1405563687;benkay;we also split 2 bottles of prosecco to celebrate the new digs. 759064;1405563687;BingoBoingo;beer's not drinking, that's taking a hydration break 759065;1405563699;moiety;new digs? work or home? 759066;1405563710;benkay;lady v made a chocolate cake with raspberry compote and a chocolate ganache to boot 759067;1405563719;benkay;work 759068;1405563738;benkay;352 ft^2 759069;1405563750;moiety;lady v sounds cool, can you bring here here too? 759070;1405563765;benkay;in a sweaty sweaty warehouse 759071;1405563771;benkay;nah, she'd not get along with mircea_popescu 759072;1405563777;BingoBoingo;I watched Dr Strangelove again and fired up Fallout 3 this week so on a nuclear apocalypse kick. Drinking grain alcohol and distilled water 759073;1405563821;BingoBoingo;I keep forgetting distilled water gives me heartburn 759074;1405563840;moiety;distilled water?! 759075;1405563846;benkay;yeah whaty? 759076;1405563858;moiety;!up paxtoncamaro91 759077;1405563894;paxtoncamaro91;thanks 759078;1405563907;BingoBoingo;What has no one talking nao ever seen Dr Strangelove? POE, Purity of Essence. 759079;1405563925;moiety;benkay: i cant see someone with you being rude, and neither is he, so problem being? 759080;1405563935;BingoBoingo;It's all the wise general ever drank. 759081;1405563944;moiety;yw paxtoncamaro91 :] what do you do? 759082;1405563969;BingoBoingo;!up VanCleef 759083;1405563969;paxtoncamaro91;irl? auto tech lol 759084;1405563974;BingoBoingo;!up Ukyo 759085;1405563982;BingoBoingo;!up reeses 759086;1405563996;moiety;BB i have heard of one strangelove film...something to do with a bomb. how many are there? 759087;1405564010;BingoBoingo;moiety: Just one. Kubrick made it. 759088;1405564026;moiety;ah well that makes sense 759089;1405564026;BingoBoingo;It's all the plot left room for... 759090;1405564039;moiety;he took cwo ogff the shelves himself 759091;1405564074;BingoBoingo;!up Dimsler 759092;1405564098;BingoBoingo;!up davidlatapie 759093;1405564144;asciilifeform;twitter... botnet << no 'captcha' ? 759094;1405564174;decimation;mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x) 759095;1405564202;davidlatapie;Hi BingoBoingo I'll probably go to bed soon 759096;1405564209;decimation;so a number from 0 to 2^4096 has about 1 in 2900 chance of being prime 759097;1405564215;BingoBoingo;davidlatapie: Cool 759098;1405564225;decimation;so start rolling 759099;1405564240;decimation;asciilifeform: I actually have a set of casino quality dice 759100;1405564255;decimation;but I'm sure they 'wear' over time 759101;1405564275;decimation;they have very sharp edges and balanced numeral indicators 759102;1405564299;BingoBoingo;I have a few sets of dice for different uses 759103;1405564337;decimation;thinking about this last night, there's a limit to the number of dice you can roll simultaneously 759104;1405564346;decimation;in the limit you are not going to move a m^3 of dice at all 759105;1405564370;asciilifeform;with bare hands, sure. 759106;1405564373;*;benkay imagines an m3 of dice 759107;1405564386;benkay;that's the biggest damn boggle box ever! 759108;1405564392;decimation;one would require mechanical assistance 759109;1405564401;asciilifeform;decimation: such as: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#757610 759110;1405564402;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 759111;1405564405;benkay;put a nice HD camera in there and you might capture...*some* entropy. 759112;1405564415;decimation;and if you are going to go through that trouble, might as well build a high bandwidth source of random values 759113;1405564490;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 26350 @ 0.00006699 = 1.7652 BTC [+] {3} 759114;1405564491;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com Bitcoin drama timeline 759115;1405564491;gribble;The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Runcible Doom pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: 759116;1405564595;benkay;yeah but where's the fun in that, decimation. it's not like the thing'd be useful anyways 759117;1405564605;benkay;it's like a fuel-cooled methane regen engine 759118;1405564616;benkay;fucker's never going to fly, but it's a grand thing to build nevertheless 759119;1405564619;decimation;oh, I mean an electrical device 759120;1405564625;mircea_popescu;<benkay> i will bring ruination on all social everythings < nah, she'd not get along with mircea_popescu << wait wut 759123;1405564665;benkay;http://rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com/2013/11/testing-new-chambers.html 759124;1405564665;assbot;Rocket Moonlighting: Testing the New Chambers 759125;1405564681;benkay;now you get to prove me wrong 759126;1405564684;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you know f3 fucking sucks. i sometimes fire up 1 or 2... but 3mmeh 759127;1405564687;benkay;mircea_popescu: ^^ 759128;1405564730;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But catching slaves. I spared megaton the bomb, because it deserves worse... 759129;1405564781;mircea_popescu; twitter... botnet << no 'captcha' ? << trivial to bypass. 759130;1405564814;mircea_popescu; mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x) << you just use the entropy to seed, much like pgp does. you don't actually roll the prime itself. 759131;1405564895;decimation;mircea of course that's how things are done today, but you are back in deterministic world at that point... 759132;1405564901;mircea_popescu; this is a correct use of "in extremis, correct?" << sure. 759133;1405565027;mircea_popescu;i must have missed a thread here. 759134;1405565033;BingoBoingo;;;google mesmotron 759135;1405565034;gribble;Mesmetron - The Fallout wiki - Fallout: New Vegas and more: ; How to Use Slave Collars in Fallout 3 | eHow: ; Fallout 3 strange man and location - YouTube: 759136;1405565041;mircea_popescu;the idea was that you can replace the platform's rng, in extremis, by rolling dice. 759137;1405565047;BingoBoingo;^ would make brewing biodeisel easier 759138;1405565070;mircea_popescu;someone said this isn't feasible. that someone is wrong : takes you about the same time to wait for gnupg to cook up a new keypair whether the source is dev/random or your dice. 759139;1405565193;BingoBoingo;Death's advance accelerates. Is this approaching extinction level again? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ 759140;1405565194;assbot;Game 17 - Death 6077 Life 3923 Year 560 - War of Life 759141;1405565258;decimation;I was echoing ascii's distinction between prng and rng 759142;1405565409;benkay; ;;google manul taking a poop 759143;1405565409;benkay; Nigger Owner's Manual: 759144;1405565412;benkay;^^ awesome 759145;1405565424;BingoBoingo;;;google manul taking a poop 759146;1405565425;gribble;Nigger Owner's Manual: ; Taking that shit to the next level - Imgur: ; constipation - Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine: 759147;1405565441;benkay;wtf is this anyways 759148;1405565460;BingoBoingo;I want to see if such a fuzzy animal gets dingleberries! 759149;1405565481;moiety;too many manuals and not enough manuls, i say 759150;1405565510;benkay;god fuck web stack technologies 759151;1405565529;benkay;this is what i get for waiting to do my deploy scripts 759152;1405565539;moiety;allow the curious beast some dignity ffs men! 759153;1405565540;BingoBoingo;benkay: Throw a latteral, and I say your blawg went 404 759154;1405565555;benkay;yeah. sudo service nginx stop. 759155;1405565572;benkay;it'll be back sometime. 759156;1405565581;benkay;probably just a photo of my mug and a gpg key. 759157;1405565602;benkay;lateral you say? football season? 759158;1405565603;BingoBoingo;benkay: But all of the things you put effort into mocking! 759159;1405565617;BingoBoingo;benkay: I can't wait MIZ!!! 759160;1405565640;benkay;yeah fuck mockery, mircea_popescu beats me hands down any day. 759161;1405565648;benkay;motherfucker can do latin and shit - what do i have 759162;1405565661;BingoBoingo;Shame Mizzou dumped DGB over his punching people in the face problem 759163;1405565669;BingoBoingo;benkay: Clojure? 759164;1405565693;benkay;no, *nix. 759165;1405565699;benkay;clojure's great, boot time aside. 759166;1405565705;benkay;it's like lisp, but for cube-bound retards. 759167;1405565795;BingoBoingo;!up jonvaage 759168;1405565828;BingoBoingo;benkay: You're a Mac person right? What was your favorite piece of iron they released? 759169;1405565849;benkay;what precisely do you mean by iron, BingoBoingo ? 759170;1405565860;BingoBoingo;benkay: Hardware 759171;1405565896;benkay;the macbook pro's are good, but i have to run aroud to client shops constantly. if you're stationary, well, why not a real nix? 759172;1405565940;BingoBoingo;benkay: That's what I wonder. You have dealt with more recent hardware from their ecosystem, any particular generations stand out? 759173;1405565968;benkay;the most recent models have gorgeous screens and chassis' the rest of the industry can't match 759174;1405565988;decimation;;;calc 2900*4096 759175;1405565988;gribble;11878400 759176;1405566009;benkay;unlike the rest of the combudder world apful appears to take the notion of 'kaizen' seriously. this in my humble opinion is the only way to stay profitable as a manufacturing shop. 759177;1405566024;benkay;i use manufacturing loosely. obviously. 759178;1405566086;BingoBoingo;;;ud kaizen 759179;1405566087;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kaizen | Kaizen is an approach to total quality management which can be described as continuously improving by making small improvements, mainly in process,... 759180;1405566107;benkay;it's also not a strategy suited to any but the market leaders in quality. 759181;1405566158;decimation;apple doesn't "improve", they just go an buy 5 years supply of a part 759182;1405566165;BingoBoingo;If apple really does kaizen why no 9" B&W machines with over 9000 dpi monitors? 759183;1405566166;decimation;the rest of the industry accepts the scraps 759184;1405566308;decimation;but they are also the only game in town for the completely integrated unix laptop market 759185;1405566350;BingoBoingo;decimation: Nah, you can still find Tadpoles on Ebay 759186;1405566415;decimation;lol yeah what's the cpu speed? 759187;1405566437;benkay; apple doesn't "improve", they just go an buy 5 years supply of a part // neglecting the chassis and the irreplaceable battery... 759188;1405566477;benkay; If apple really does kaizen why no 9" B&W machines with over 9000 dpi monitors? // troll better 759189;1405566486;decimation;heh that's how they force you to buy more, like the flashlight 759190;1405566506;benkay;no, that'd be the OS 'upgrades' that slow machines to a crawl over time. 759191;1405566513;decimation;heh that too 759192;1405566538;decimation;if you want apple stuff, you have to think of it as a subscription plan 759193;1405566691;benkay;if you want nice things, you must pay for them. 759194;1405566699;benkay;the niceness on offer is dubious though. 759195;1405566825;decimation;as nice as mircea's flashlight... 759196;1405566838;benkay;must have missed that one. 759197;1405566905;BingoBoingo;From lulz farm: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667460.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672453.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0 759198;1405566905;assbot;Phinnaeus Gage aka ~Bruno Kucinskas where are you? 759199;1405566905;assbot;Where is Goat? (The scammer) 759200;1405566905;assbot;Anonibet is a SCAM! Cheated me in their world cup contest ! Proof Inside. 759201;1405566908;dub;my god I need a physio or some shit 759202;1405566920;dub;fist sized knot floating around my lower back 759203;1405566955;benkay; The eventual loser doesn't always allow the winners victory unscathed // been studying GoL? 759204;1405566970;BingoBoingo;benkay: Not studying, playing 759205;1405566994;benkay;good god man you think i don't know? 759206;1405567090;benkay;have you seen the above happen in GoL? 759207;1405567161;benkay; some other dood somewhere has this truely ellaborate and complex punishment station, cost him 18`000 dollars // lol sounds a lot like MPEx. 759208;1405567302;benkay; oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games. // am curious as to how you're deciding how to lay odds. 759209;1405568159;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 759210;1405568161;gribble;Current Blocks: 311093 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1386 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18093767874.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.36916 759211;1405568267;BingoBoingo;%d 759212;1405568268;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 508361.66 in 562 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -35.25 759213;1405568405;BingoBoingo;!up RedStallion 759214;1405568544;asciilifeform;mac battery << idk about the more recent machines, but the one on my (circa '09?) unit is replaceable. just need to pop 8 torx screws. 759215;1405568572;*;asciilifeform doesn't use that machine often, battery has probably rotted and ripe for replacement 759216;1405568591;BingoBoingo;Mac has been infatuated with torx for some time it seems 759217;1405568602;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: do you know why 'torx' exists? 759218;1405568619;BingoBoingo;Because phillips isn't hip? 759219;1405568635;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: originally, 'phillips' screws caught on because a (motorized, factory) driver would slip automatically when the screw tightened 759220;1405568647;asciilifeform;when strain gauges and computers became a thing, this was no longer necessary 759221;1405568659;asciilifeform;so screws were cut to maximize grip 759222;1405568667;asciilifeform;torx is one such 759223;1405568716;asciilifeform;nothing to do with 'hip'... 759224;1405568722;BingoBoingo;Ah, I thought torx was such because someone in Cupertino thought in 1999 it would be a swell idea to push Bingo to buy a $20 screwdriver from radioshack 759225;1405568767;asciilifeform;pediwikia has good illustration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx 759226;1405568768;assbot;Torx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 759227;1405568907;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: buy a $20 screwdriver from radioshack << you're thinking of the infamous 'pentalobe' 759228;1405568924;mircea_popescu;benkay what , no more blog ? 759229;1405568954;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: No, this was me with an information deficit and RadioShack with an people buying shit deficit 759230;1405569029;BingoBoingo;!up twizt 759231;1405569037;decimation;whenever I use a motorized phillips screw driver I find that it strips before it slips 759232;1405569051;decimation;but that's probably because the screw is cheap 759233;1405569062;benkay;no more blog. 759234;1405569064;benkay;mircea_popescu: 759235;1405569087;BingoBoingo;decimation: Not too cheap though. I've had screws weld. Fucking ChiBama and Chicoms 759236;1405569095;benkay;it's a distraction! the kid only has so much attention to go around, and the blog is a dilution of said. 759237;1405569115;decimation;yeah the world is awash in cheap chicom screws 759238;1405569127;BingoBoingo;It is a plague 759239;1405569169;mircea_popescu;lol goat's repute preceeds him 759240;1405569198;BingoBoingo;Chicom nails and rivets... fine. Screws I might need to use several times... fuck that. 759241;1405569246;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3458 ppl be aggro! 759242;1405569246;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 days ago 759243;1405569280;benkay;i'm down with destructive fasteners, but not fasteners that self-destruct. 759244;1405569281;mircea_popescu;"There can't be 1 person that has a stake in this that can be happy with how it is proceeding. Bet Yes or No it doesn't matter. Anyone with a legitimate bet wants a statement from BitBet about what is happening with this bet. I'm not at the point where I assume the admins of BitBet place a lot of their own bets on their site, and a lot of the comments are also from the admins. No one in th 759245;1405569281;mircea_popescu;eir right mind would ever think the running of this site is tolerable, yet apparently somehow many commenters do." 759246;1405569282;asciilifeform;http://terminallance.com/2014/04/22/terminal-lance-317-the-social-network-iv/ 759247;1405569282;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #317 “The Social Network IV” 759248;1405569287;BingoBoingo;Aggro because they imagined a good resolution source and Draper likes the cox 759249;1405569307;mircea_popescu;"i am now at a point where i'm so butthurt with the internets i'm going to think the whole of it is just this guy in 8th grade that doesn't like me" 759250;1405569334;asciilifeform;http://terminallance.com/2014/04/11/terminal-lance-316-dress-blue-alpha-male/ 759251;1405569335;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #316 “Dress Blue Alpha Male” 759252;1405569366;mircea_popescu; oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games. // am curious as to how you're deciding how to lay odds. << it's a rand. 759253;1405569419;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: ~85 percent of my cousins took that career path. Was my motivation for going to college 759254;1405569455;mircea_popescu;benkay makes sense. 759255;1405569495;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Few make it past this phase unscathed http://terminallance.com/2013/11/29/terminal-lance-revenge-of-the-dependapotamus-1/ 759256;1405569495;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance “Revenge of the Dependapotamus” #1 759257;1405569495;decimation;usg has been sending rednecks overseas for two generations at least 759258;1405569611;BingoBoingo;decimation: USG has been sending rednecks overseas since tripoli 759259;1405569698;BingoBoingo;Tripoli was prolly the West's last decisive victory over Abdullah 759260;1405569760;decimation;back then they had the sense to take them home at least 759261;1405569817;BingoBoingo;lol 759262;1405569827;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://terminallance.com/2014/01/17/terminal-lance-302-pirate-sword 759263;1405569828;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #302 “Pirate Sword” 759264;1405569940;decimation;lol 759265;1405569944;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Cousin actually after leaving broke his pirate sword testing it against a $15 Walmart machete on honeysuckle in the back yard 759266;1405570036;decimation;if augustus were transported into our time, he would wonder why the us spends blood & treasure to "occupy" lands without expecting tribute or gold mines 759267;1405570084;BingoBoingo;decimation: Well, it might have made sense if Blood for Oil was an actual thing and not a hippie chant 759268;1405570123;BingoBoingo;http://terminallance.com/2014/06/17/terminal-lance-328-avengers-assemble/ 759269;1405570124;assbot;Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #328 “Avengers Assemble” 759270;1405570137;decimation;my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol? 759271;1405570159;BingoBoingo;Cause suckitude. 759272;1405570179;BingoBoingo;Arabs could have been the new Mexicans, but... Progressivism 759273;1405570223;benkay;http://airbnblogos.tumblr.com/image/91994650874 759274;1405570223;assbot;AirBNB Logos. : Photo 759275;1405570224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17800014 = 1.068 BTC [-] {3} 759276;1405570236;benkay;http://media.tumblr.com/a6764c9453c58a3c1e42654ed89a6e69/tumblr_n8u33zdSnA1r5wpf1o1_1280.png 759277;1405570315;BingoBoingo;benkay: Wait airBnB ignores fags nao? 759278;1405570389;benkay;who's a what now? 759279;1405570425;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well, apparently airbnd is all about the pussy nao 759280;1405570484;benkay;http://33.media.tumblr.com/e5c93fd1bc11c41746fe03b3bfc41c85/tumblr_n8tx0awiHX1tho45lo1_1280.png 759281;1405570551;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: What is the BTC/Meat price? 759282;1405570654;danielpbarron;one sec, I'll put up some new orders 759283;1405570676;*;BingoBoingo digs KoL account out of the abyss 759284;1405570754;danielpbarron;it's about 3`180`927 MEAT per 1 XCP 759285;1405570772;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Translate that to BTC or ATC 759286;1405570787;mircea_popescu; my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol? << same reason the eu didn't take on turkey when it had the chance. 759287;1405570790;mircea_popescu;idiots. 759288;1405570800;BingoBoingo;Or I'll comprehend XCP if you quote spectral pickles as the underlying 759289;1405570820;danielpbarron;my equation is {meat/mr. a}*{btc/xcp}*{usd/btc}/10 759290;1405570831;decimation;turkey would be a much better deal than greece 759291;1405570876;danielpbarron;i get the btc/xcp price from blockscan.com which quotes the latest trade on the DEX (I think) 759292;1405570893;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: WTF is this marketmaking based on precise calculations??? 759293;1405570909;danielpbarron;lol 759294;1405570929;BingoBoingo;No, seriously sounds like a way to lose a lot of money 759295;1405571053;danielpbarron;well, the market cap of MEAT is less than 10 XCP so I'm not too worried 759296;1405571149;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: How much ATC or BTC is 10 XCP? 759297;1405571156;BingoBoingo;Can't find a good quote 759298;1405571229;danielpbarron;10 XCP is about 0.04127 BTC 759299;1405571240;danielpbarron;if the DEX is even accurate 759300;1405571381;dub;fuck is xcp 759301;1405571410;danielpbarron;counterparty money (it's like mastercoin) 759302;1405571660;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: So how many meat for 0.05 BTC? 759303;1405571884;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, 38`538`008 MEAT per 0.05 BTC 759304;1405571933;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: I'll take all the meat then, post address 759305;1405571987;danielpbarron;well I don't have that much meat; are you saying you'll pay extra for it? 759306;1405571999;danielpbarron;I wouldn't mind donating for some mr. a's to get that much meat for you 759307;1405572006;danielpbarron;thereby converting my USD into BTC :D 759308;1405572007;BingoBoingo;Well, I want to help put this thing out of its misery. 759309;1405572026;BingoBoingo;But avoiding putting BTC into USD 759310;1405572035;BingoBoingo;How many BTC to kill this asset? 759311;1405572068;benkay;aw now you've gone and hurt danielpbarron's feelings! 759312;1405572085;danielpbarron;0.05 is more than enough to buy the 24`541`500 MEAT that I have ready to go 759313;1405572166;BingoBoingo;Well, Sounds like the cap on this then is well under 0.05 759314;1405572190;danielpbarron;I'd rather do it on the DEX so it gets tracked on the top assets graph, but I'm not gonna turn down BTC if you send it here: 1MbPpiePrxuQLMeGZZJiYPbuta5farHyto 759315;1405572241;danielpbarron;I can send the MEAT to any BTC address, but it's probably best if you get an address from counterwallet.co if you want to trade them easily 759316;1405572265;danielpbarron;unless you're already running counterparty on one of your machines 759317;1405572279;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Send the meat to Atruk 947952eaf8724b41837f490a6e8049810399651cb2725c383a28f822b2350929 I want the actual meat 759318;1405572279;benkay; How many BTC to kill this asset? // doesn't sound like there's much trading in MEAT's future. 759319;1405572290;BingoBoingo;All of it 759320;1405572310;danielpbarron;... 759321;1405572333;danielpbarron;:p 759322;1405572341;danielpbarron;alright well i'm just gonna donate for some more meat to cover it again 759323;1405572393;danielpbarron;that's a deal if you want; I'll send you 27`000`000 actual KoL meat for 0.05 BTC 759324;1405572396;benkay;the misery persists! 759325;1405572549;BingoBoingo;Imma just spend it on spectral pickles anyways 759326;1405572655;mircea_popescu;https://www.guerrillamail.com/#/bitcoin btw 759327;1405572656;assbot; Guerrilla Mail - Disposable Temporary E-Mail Address 759328;1405572665;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, Package sent. 759329;1405572718;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://mailinator.com - ancient 759330;1405572719;assbot;Mailinator 759331;1405572765;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the bitcoin part. 759332;1405572769;asciilifeform;aha 759333;1405572788;BingoBoingo;thank you danielpbarron 759334;1405572857;danielpbarron;heh, just donated another 30 USD to jick for some mr. a's 759335;1405573275;BingoBoingo;!up VanCleef Ur welcome Dudebro 759336;1405573284;VanCleef;thanks bro 759337;1405573292;VanCleef;i miss this room 759338;1405573337;benkay;hey VanCleef how've you been 759339;1405573365;VanCleef;good thanks benkay bro, yourself? 759340;1405573371;benkay;casi casi 759341;1405573382;benkay;just successfully scripted a postgres install on ubuntu 759342;1405573605;benkay;flopped out of bed last night and threw my back out too, huzzah 759343;1405574113;BingoBoingo;!up hanbot 759344;1405574519;hanbot;ty kindly BB. was going to pester mike_c for the reasoning behind closing wol betting @ 21 blocks to game closure, as opposed to whatever, 50, 10, etc. anyone else know? 759345;1405574598;BingoBoingo;Maybe number correlates to buttplug size? 759346;1405574624;hanbot;lol whose? 759347;1405574743;BingoBoingo;Well, whoever is a size 21 759348;1405574914;hanbot;reasonable enough, i'm satisfied. 759349;1405575272;BingoBoingo;!up VanCleef 759350;1405575287;BingoBoingo;VanCleef: Were you the NYDFS van cleef 759351;1405576693;kyuupichan;So why does bitcoin-qt sit forever at some blocks whilst catching up? WTF is it doing? 759352;1405577936;cazalla;my guess when it's happened to me is that there is more tx in the block but i really have nfi 759353;1405578646;decimation;quit 759354;1405580108;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.29142557 BTC. Current weight: 74,316. 759355;1405581753;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 265 @ 0.00271399 = 0.7192 BTC [+] 759356;1405583552;jurov; [00:09:08] btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind? << to see more easily if it was above/below 50% 759357;1405583617;jurov;nm you added it 759358;1405583964;pankkake;;;later tell asciilifeform I sold headphones. Tried to sold hard drives but no success. It's not very practical anyway, I think it's going to end up on eBay with a Bitcoin discount 759359;1405583964;gribble;The operation succeeded. 759360;1405583980;pankkake;tried to sold. lol. if only I read what I wrote 759361;1405584016;pankkake;freenode is really crappy lately 759362;1405584169;pankkake;;;view 759363;1405584172;gribble;#21093 Thu Jul 17 04:01:53 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 TB @ 25 EUR (Up to 6x1.5TB and 4x750GB hard drives #eu only because heavy objects, I prefer grouped order) || #21094 Thu Jul 17 04:02:10 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) 759364;1405588263;fluffypony;hrrrrm 759365;1405588267;fluffypony;is bitcointa.lk broken? 759366;1405588277;fluffypony;no updates since July 8th 759367;1405588278;fluffypony;:( 759368;1405588470;pankkake;;;seen cedivad 759369;1405588470;gribble;cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. 759370;1405588497;fluffypony;pity 759371;1405593654;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/ 759372;1405593654;assbot;Bitcoin News, Prices, Charts, Guides & Analysis - CoinDesk 759373;1405593661;ThickAsThieves;oops 759374;1405593668;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/world-bank-report-bitcoin-naturally-occurring-ponzi/ 759375;1405593669;assbot;World Bank Report: Bitcoin is a 'Naturally Occurring' Ponzi 759376;1405593674;ThickAsThieves;told you guys! 759377;1405593738;davout;as opposed to government-regulated ponzees 759378;1405593907;pankkake;"And it isn’t safe given hacking of it." "and on how to enhance efficiency and cut transactions cost" guy can't even into English 759379;1405596121;ThickAsThieves;http://economicsandlaw.org/fajlovi/Vol10/No.%2010%20-%20Economics%20and%20Law.pdf#page=138 759380;1405598393;nubbins`;;;later tell BingoBoingo we've never printed on rugs, can't imagine it'd be very nice 759381;1405598393;gribble;The operation succeeded. 759382;1405598419;nubbins`;we do, however, cut rugs on the regular 759383;1405598478;jurov;maybe he meant to use knitting machine instead of print 759384;1405598533;nubbins`;i think rugs are hooked 759385;1405598544;nubbins`;i admittedly have no idea but it seems like a fairly industrious process 759386;1405598630;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhTfw6UzFWs 759387;1405598630;assbot;Jaipur, India: Silk Screen Factory - YouTube 759388;1405598635;nubbins`;amazing 759389;1405598635;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 759390;1405598642;nubbins`;^ 759391;1405598815;nubbins`;incidentally, that's how wallpaper is printed in boutique first-world shops 759392;1405600071;xmj;Booooo 759393;1405600075;xmj;Google doesn't want me. 759394;1405600167;pankkake;in what way? 759395;1405600238;nkuttler;easy, become more attractive 759396;1405600343;xmj;was that what she said? 759397;1405601012;chetty; Google doesn't want me.//lucky 759398;1405601443;pankkake;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28348223 759399;1405601444;assbot;BBC News - Microsoft set to axe 18,000 jobs 759400;1405601525;dub;if only they used actual axes 759401;1405601621;diana_coman;if it's of any interest to anyone, a bit of playing with the logs: http://www.ossasepia.com/2014/07/17/get-one-just-like-bitcoin-people/ 759402;1405601622;assbot;“Get one just like bitcoin people” in Ossasepia 759403;1405601905;mircea_popescu;No better test to see text mining fail, it seems, than applying it to irc logs on bitcoin-assets: a careful calibration of state of the art tools yielded only a clear case of by the time you figure out and implement everything needed to obtain even reasonable results, you surely did the automated work at least 5 times if not 10, if not 100. 759404;1405601929;mircea_popescu;this is proof of intelligence i say 759405;1405602096;mircea_popescu;given the enthusiasm of text mining people << this is the enthusiasm of the doomed - it doesn't reflect anything on the direct avenue, but is merely the nervous laugh of someone who just got cut in half. 759406;1405602159;chetty;well to mine anything you sort of need to know what you are looking for 759407;1405602173;mircea_popescu;text mining people are among the few who appreciate the problem of text deluge close to its actual size, which is another way to say they actually know we're surrounded by uncontrolled wildfire. that they pretend like you know, pissing on it works is more the result of their psychological need to fit in with the rest of the crowd, that blisfully ignores the problem, than anything else. 759408;1405602187;mircea_popescu;in any case the end of civilisation is here simply because we've lost control of text. 759409;1405602224;mircea_popescu;chetty yeah. it becomes problematic when you provably can't know, yet you still have to. this is a macroproblem of "nobody knows wtf the tax code says" 759410;1405602780;diana_coman;mircea_popescu yeah, I kind of expected that, but as I said - it was more for the fun and getting to read all that + there is proof now out there 759411;1405602819;pankkake;shouldn't common words be excluded? I used to do that to IRC stats 759412;1405602833;diana_coman;pankkake, I excluded the most common ones 759413;1405602842;diana_coman;I guess it depends on what you consider common 759414;1405602852;diana_coman;I excluded stuff like "the" "a" etc 759415;1405602879;diana_coman;obviously, excluding some more could make it a bit better, but from what I saw, it doesn't get it too far still 759416;1405602890;pankkake;right 759417;1405602923;ThickAsThieves;as i read diana's post, it occurs to me how much this channel is like the Howard Stern show 759418;1405602923;diana_coman;simply because of the fact that the discussions really are pretty much about everything and in all forms and shapes 759419;1405602933;ThickAsThieves;mp is Stern, providing most content 759420;1405602945;ThickAsThieves;while friends like Robin and baba incite it 759421;1405602955;ThickAsThieves;nubbins, me, ascii, etc 759422;1405602969;ThickAsThieves;we even have the sexual bent 759423;1405602973;ThickAsThieves;in the content 759424;1405602996;ThickAsThieves;Stern also had similar standards for guests of the show 759425;1405603044;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what standards are those ? 759426;1405603051;diana_coman;ThickAsThieves it clearly is driven mainly by a few people 759427;1405603055;mircea_popescu;o nm, i misread 759428;1405603057;ThickAsThieves;like he'd try to get certain people on 759429;1405603061;ThickAsThieves;and wouldnt allow some 759430;1405603068;ThickAsThieves;and enjoyed company of sluts 759431;1405603077;chetty;haha the b-a reality show, comming soon 759432;1405603077;mircea_popescu;lol. and had wild hair. 759433;1405603089;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves can you summarize them standards ? 759434;1405603101;ThickAsThieves;shit i havent watched/listened in years 759435;1405603109;ThickAsThieves;surely google can help 759436;1405603122;ThickAsThieves;his movie is pretty good too, if you havent seen it 759437;1405603151;mircea_popescu;pankkake actually if i had to somehow do what she's trying to do, i'd cheat : get the words put into !s and ;;ud, look three lines prior for the sentence they appear in, build the sentence tree and then use that grammatical pattern on the whole log. 759438;1405603165;mircea_popescu;extract all words which work syntactically in the same manner as the searched terms. 759439;1405603168;dub;all I remember is the awful scene with that chick raping a woofer 759440;1405603177;mircea_popescu;because what the search does is it says "this is an important AND OBSCURE" term. 759441;1405603185;mircea_popescu;whereas you want to see important and anti-obscure words. 759442;1405603187;ThickAsThieves;dub it was indeed memorable 759443;1405603197;mircea_popescu;dub you know that's what i know of stern too ? 759444;1405603216;mircea_popescu;o wait, he also had a girl that fucked her mother on once ? or what was it ? 759445;1405603227;ThickAsThieves;he had all kindsa shit like that 759446;1405603287;ThickAsThieves;geez, Stern is 60? 759447;1405603288;dub;that and he's weird al's doppleganger 759448;1405603300;diana_coman;mircea_popescu uhm, the structures did not seem so uniform, but it could be worth a try 759449;1405603306;mircea_popescu;dub nah, weird al is all fat. stern looks more like zappa imo 759450;1405603340;ThickAsThieves;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fines_of_The_Howard_Stern_Show 759451;1405603340;assbot;FCC fines of The Howard Stern Show - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 759452;1405603433;ThickAsThieves;!s diana_coman 759453;1405603434;assbot;6 results for 'diana_coman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=diana_coman 759454;1405603440;mircea_popescu;http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2005/11/howard-stern2.gif | http://www.vinylrecords.ch/F/FR/Frank_Zappa/cruising/frank-zappa-portrait.jpg 759455;1405603460;ThickAsThieves;what brings you here diana_coman? 759456;1405603464;mircea_popescu;lmao wait, wikipedia has a page dedicated to "fcc fines stern" ?! ahahah. 759457;1405603501;ThickAsThieves;you are behind MP, you need an SEC fine page 759458;1405603502;diana_coman;ThickAsThieves curiosity mainly; I've been around for a while, but I don't talk much 759459;1405603515;ThickAsThieves;or, hell, FCC too 759460;1405603521;ThickAsThieves;cool cool 759461;1405603535;mircea_popescu;!up andreas__ 759462;1405603549;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves nah, i don't. i'd much rather google spit out trilema than wikipedia. 759463;1405603577;ThickAsThieves;true, i guess we can always detail your exploits in the b-a wiki 759464;1405603601;mircea_popescu;hm i guess this is actually open for some comparison. 759465;1405603622;mircea_popescu;hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a 759466;1405603646;mircea_popescu;then we can actually score how well the computer did. 759467;1405603686;dub;scam scam scam scam and scam 759468;1405603728;chetty;people have 'fixed' interests like that? 759469;1405603740;ThickAsThieves;i cant do it without losing context 759470;1405603750;mircea_popescu;chetty yeah, as i said that i was sitting here going wtf i have nfi what i should write now. 759471;1405603755;mircea_popescu;this is what i get for being impulsive. 759472;1405603760;ThickAsThieves;like i could just say bitcoin, or mircea_popescu 759473;1405603770;pankkake;surprising that scam wasn't one of the top words 759474;1405603776;mircea_popescu;i mean something like ipo ceo scam mpex bitbet i guess, but wtf. i have no idea i'll be interested in what ppl say BEFORE they say it. 759475;1405603778;pankkake;scam, troll, tits, slander, ? 759476;1405603779;diana_coman;ThickAsThieves that's what the computer said! 759477;1405603796;pankkake;scam, troll, tits, slander, AMAZING 759478;1405603796;dub;computer says no 759479;1405603808;chetty;thats the whole thing, data is nothing without context 759480;1405603811;mircea_popescu;AMAZING COMPANY! 759481;1405603835;ThickAsThieves;but really it's mor elike: bitcoin current affairs & discourse 759482;1405603842;mircea_popescu;someone should send dub a viking hat anyway. 759483;1405603866;dub;it wouldnt fit over my batman mask 759484;1405603879;mircea_popescu;Viking-Batman Dub. 759485;1405603886;mircea_popescu;now that's a comic i'd check out. 759486;1405604017;los_pantalones;repartee peers encyclopedic knowledge logs 759487;1405604028;mircea_popescu;!s repartee 759488;1405604029;assbot;1 results for 'repartee' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=repartee 759489;1405604034;mircea_popescu;you lose :D 759490;1405604042;los_pantalones;damn! 759491;1405604055;mircea_popescu;http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/keywords_may14-300x253.png <<< the most notable thing i see here is that "first" and "last" have the same motherfucking weight. 759492;1405604082;mircea_popescu;do that on twitter/reddit/btctalk/coindesk w/e, it's all FIRST and LARGEST and etc. 759493;1405604140;mircea_popescu;and wtf is "mbuy 759494;1405604262;los_pantalones;why is "well" on here but not "welp" ? 759495;1405604279;ThickAsThieves;cuz no one says welp 759496;1405604314;mircea_popescu;http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/116066/2283684-Jimmy_bieber_Popcorn_cu-thumb-350x197-14878.gif << someone put this in the bitbet wail thread about the sr auction. 759497;1405604323;mircea_popescu;imo it's the best popcorn pic ON THE INTERNETS 759498;1405604328;ThickAsThieves;lol 759499;1405604340;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones you understand, this is based on the logs, it's not meta. 759500;1405604355;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel 759501;1405604355;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gabriel_laddel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=gabriel_laddel | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gabriel_laddel | Rated since: never 759502;1405604363;mircea_popescu;;;rate gabriel_laddel 1 New blood 759503;1405604364;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 759504;1405604371;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel 759505;1405604375;mircea_popescu;suppose you get to that hm ? 759506;1405604393;gabriel_laddel;Registering with gribble? 759507;1405604395;gabriel_laddel;Of course. 759508;1405604399;mircea_popescu;k 759509;1405604430;gabriel_laddel;I read logs+loper-os+trilema, I have not yet registered for my own reasons. 759510;1405604582;cazalla;lulz im porn.gif, wtf no img tags in comments? scam 759511;1405604586;cazalla;popcorn.gif i means 759512;1405604721;mircea_popescu;cause people would prolly put all sorts of huge pagebreaking shit 759513;1405604898;mircea_popescu;diana_coman users-by-lines is already in http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ users-by-words and per-user-mean-wordlength'd have been moar interesting. 759514;1405604898;assbot;#bitcoin-assets stats 759515;1405605084;mircea_popescu;which also brings us to a disparity : "users by lines, last 12 months 2.) mircea_popescu 92547" according to kako 759516;1405605123;mircea_popescu;'s stats ; logs between 26 March 2013 and 12 June 2014. mircea_popescu 91479 according to diana_coman. well which is it ? cause these can't both be right 759517;1405605235;chetty;navel gazing 759518;1405605289;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform drops from 18964 in 12 months to 16627 in 15 months. 759519;1405605333;mircea_popescu;chetty hm ? 759520;1405605408;chetty;just noticing the self absorbtion of a channel mostly talking about itself, perhaps b-a is becoming enlightened? 759521;1405605484;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu at least one day got thrown out from the log data so there wont be 100% match 759522;1405605490;mircea_popescu;first, they mocked others, but i didn't say anything because they weren't mocking me. then they started talking about themselves but i didn't say anything because i wasn't there. and now there's nothing to talk about. 759523;1405605531;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you mean cuz assbot didn't see it ? how did it put it in the stats then ? 759524;1405605563;kakobrekla;no, its in the logs it just that we couldnt make sense of it 759525;1405605565;kakobrekla;O_o 759526;1405605598;mircea_popescu;you are making sense right now. 759527;1405605755;kakobrekla;on i side not, i figured it out now whats the problem but whatever doesnt matter. 759528;1405605770;mircea_popescu;x.x 759529;1405605776;kakobrekla;on a side note 759530;1405605789;kakobrekla;obv i need coffee. brb. 759531;1405605828;jurov;lul dotcoin is hungry https://www.crowdfunder.com/bitcoin-sarl/deal/ 759532;1405605830;assbot;Bitcoin SARL: Nice, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur, FR | www.crowdfunder.com 759533;1405605850;fluffypony;yeah wtf 759534;1405605854;fluffypony;"Markus Weiler has invited you to view Bitcoin SARL's fundraising details on their Crowdfunder Deal. Check out their Deal on Crowdfunder.com." 759535;1405605859;fluffypony;just saw that mail 759536;1405605872;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ 759537;1405605872;assbot;Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin 759538;1405605874;mircea_popescu;awww y no kickstarter 759539;1405605877;fluffypony;twizt spotted that 759540;1405605909;fluffypony;here's the proposed framework: http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf 759541;1405605984;mircea_popescu;Section 200.15 Anti-money laundering program << stopped reading. 759542;1405606013;mircea_popescu;no-anti-money-laundering is not negotiable. 759543;1405606028;ThickAsThieves;https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ 759544;1405606029;assbot;Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin 759545;1405606039;mircea_popescu;pay.reddit.com ? 759546;1405606043;ThickAsThieves;http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf 759547;1405606064;jurov;fluffypony can you request access to see what dotcoin derpage? 759548;1405606068;fluffypony;jurov: sure 759549;1405606070;ThickAsThieves;dunno wat the pay subdom is 759550;1405606168;ThickAsThieves;" No Person shall, without a license obtained from the superintendent as provided in 759551;1405606168;ThickAsThieves;this Part, engage in any Virtual Currency Business Activity." 759552;1405606203;ThickAsThieves;merchants and consumers that utilize Virtual Currency solely for the purchase or sale of goods or 759553;1405606203;ThickAsThieves;services are exempt 759554;1405606411;ThickAsThieves;Each Licensee is prohibited from selling, transferring, assigning, lending, hypothecating, pledging, or 759555;1405606411;ThickAsThieves;otherwise using or encumbering assets, including Virtual Currency, held, stored, or maintained by, or under the custody or control of, such Licensee on behalf of another Person. 759556;1405606446;mircea_popescu;ahahahaha 759557;1405606451;mircea_popescu;wtf are these idiots. 759558;1405606467;mircea_popescu;it's a fucking fixed volume deflationary currency. it can't even jokingly contemplate such an arrangement. 759559;1405606544;mircea_popescu;so what, this is the strat, "prevent bitcoin from raping the usd by making it unable to work like a currency" ? lulz. people will just move to connecticut. 759560;1405606567;mircea_popescu;this is roughly the equivalent of a license to build boats provided they're oar powered and leak. 759561;1405606597;pankkake;re boats, this is what the French gov did to Uber 759562;1405606623;ThickAsThieves;When a Licensee is involved in a transaction or series of transactions for the receipt, exchange, conversion, purchase, sale, transfer, or transmission of Virtual Currency, in an aggregate amount exceeding the United States dollar value of $10,000 in one day, by one Person, the Licensee shall notify the Department, in a manner prescribed by the superintendent, within 24 hours. 759563;1405606630;pankkake;"you might do your thing but you have to wait 15 min" then "you might do your thing but you can't use geolocalization" 759564;1405606646;mircea_popescu;pankkake lmao 759565;1405606749;ThickAsThieves;Licensees are prohibited from maintaining relationships of any type in connection with their Virtual Currency Business Activity with entities that do not have a physical presence in any country. 759566;1405606760;ThickAsThieves;hmm 759567;1405606763;mircea_popescu;lmao 759568;1405606826;mircea_popescu;ah lanky guy behind a very short sixty dollar desk, how amusing you are. 759569;1405606910;dignork;Regulators might think of something like this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-protected-vericoin-stolen-mintpal-wallet-breach/ 759570;1405606910;assbot;8 Million Vericoin Hack Prompts Hard Fork to Recover Funds 759571;1405606915;pankkake;I suppose reddit will say "but we were supposed to be friends" 759572;1405607013;mircea_popescu;"About FoxySoft. FoxySoft is founded by Alex Allen. Alex has been a professional game developer since 1997 when she began her career as an Art Director, transforming traditional board games into PC games. FoxySoft works with local businesses and startup foundations to create a solid business model and ensure stability in the companys framework. FoxySofts combined talent and experience has produced such games as: 759573;1405607013;mircea_popescu;DC Universe Online Star Wars Galaxies PlanetSide 2 Magic the Gathering Everquest 2" 759574;1405607013;diana_coman;mircea_popescu re mismatch in number of lines - there are some missing in my data (part is what kakobrekla said earlier that I had to throw out one day due to funny things with the timestamps) 759575;1405607039;ThickAsThieves;well Lawsky wants public comment, so be sure to make public comment mp 759576;1405607045;mircea_popescu;i have. 759577;1405607054;ThickAsThieves;reddit is so funny 759578;1405607056;mircea_popescu;lansky is not important enough just yet to pick his venue. 759579;1405607056;diana_coman;as for words and mean length, I'll be back with it in a few moments 759580;1405607067;ThickAsThieves;all the commenters dont want to read it or think for themselves 759581;1405607079;ThickAsThieves;so they are all literally asking what to think 759582;1405607081;mircea_popescu;well it IS reddit... 759583;1405607082;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/ 759584;1405607083;assbot;Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin 759585;1405607149;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i like the part where someone tipped him three fiddy 759586;1405607166;mircea_popescu;guy actually has to file paperwork for that, which i bet you he doesn't know about and doesn't do, 759587;1405607179;mircea_popescu;which i bet you will result in a criminal complaint cca 2015ish. 759588;1405607191;ThickAsThieves;lol 759589;1405607226;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2avch7/survey_results_bitcoin_survey/ 759590;1405607228;assbot;Survey Results | Bitcoin Survey : Bitcoin 759591;1405607239;mircea_popescu;that's the funny thing with the usg bureaucracy, the entire "make the laws too complex and then add regulation" thing used to work in their favour cca 1980-1990. but once that starts moving it doesn't stop, and now they're left behind. 759592;1405607260;mircea_popescu;i don't think i've ever had an encounter with any sort of govt employee where i couldn't have sued him into the dirt if so inclined. 759593;1405607328;mthreat;mircea_popescu: what a great "DOS" type attack - do things such as tip them small amounts, so they have to file paperwork or be guilty of something 759594;1405607391;mircea_popescu;mthreat this is the problem of half baked systems. just like sm sites are structurally vulnerable because they misimplement the wot, just like the phone corps & banks are vulnerable because they misimplement crypto, 759595;1405607407;mircea_popescu;everyone in the old world is very, very vulnerable to a long long list of new attacks. 759596;1405607426;mircea_popescu;stuff like goatse and rick rolling are merely playful swings around the margins of the gaping hole. 759597;1405607488;mircea_popescu;take something as simple as swatting : nothing in the old world is designed or capable to handle distributed coordinated effort. 759598;1405607542;cazalla;swatting a bitcoin conference 759599;1405607544;chetty;hmm wonder if you could swat an IRS office .. 759600;1405607548;cazalla;now that'd be lulzy 759601;1405607597;chetty;dragon should be occupied eating its own tail 759602;1405607605;mthreat;ya but swatting is presumably illegal. tipping is not, so thousands of people could conceivably do it without breaking any law 759603;1405607623;mircea_popescu;mthreat it only became illegal after they caught on. 759604;1405607638;chetty;plenty of stuff they havent gotten around to making illegal - yet 759605;1405607643;mircea_popescu;but before they caught on... it wasn't. so what is this, bayesian spam filtering ? 759606;1405607658;mircea_popescu;done by hand by people who never got past 9th grade math ? 759607;1405607737;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 759608;1405607738;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.93, Best ask: 618.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 618.89, 24 hour volume: 5229.14362461, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 623.0, 24 hour vwap: 615.352893005 759609;1405607838;ThickAsThieves;china tried to rally but failed so far 759610;1405608268;mircea_popescu;i guess someone has to try and fail for the rest to get it. teaching without training is kinda dead in the water. 759611;1405608406;mircea_popescu;!up indiancandy1 759612;1405608549;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ this thing keeps growing but remarkably the odds stay about the same 759613;1405608549;assbot;BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.01 B (19%) on Yes, 12.92 B (81%) on No | closing in 1 week 4 days | weight: 72`228 (100`000 to 1) 759614;1405608616;ThickAsThieves;oh shit, read Lanksy's definition of Virtual Currency 759615;1405608622;ThickAsThieves;it includes centralized 759616;1405608624;diana_coman;mircea_popescu updated the post with users by words and mean wordlength per user (per line), is that what you meant? 759617;1405608640;ThickAsThieves;so does AmazonCoin and such have to comply now? 759618;1405608658;ThickAsThieves;what about video game currencies? 759619;1405608694;ThickAsThieves;nevermind 759620;1405608699;ThickAsThieves;he excludes gaming platforms 759621;1405608701;mircea_popescu;http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/meanWordlength_all.png << 11 ? 759622;1405608707;mircea_popescu;does that count url as words ? 759623;1405608727;ThickAsThieves;also excludes reward programs and such 759624;1405609038;kakobrekla;so what you are saying is that im barely readable? 759625;1405609107;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bareisbest.tumblr.com/post/32499335130 759626;1405609131;kakobrekla;hehe 759627;1405609244;fluffypony;where is nap hex? he's disappeared :( 759628;1405609248;fluffypony;*naphex 759629;1405609716;indiancandy1;wassuo bitches 759630;1405609719;indiancandy1;wassup 759631;1405609728;indiancandy1;who wants 2 buy me a ticket 2 india 759632;1405609732;indiancandy1;il do anything 759633;1405609785;diana_coman;mircea_popescu yes, it counts urls, but that's not the top by wordlength, the title was misleading I guess; updated now 759634;1405609835;diana_coman;it's a bit of a hack so not terribly precise - I count non-words and then add 1 - I've used basic string processing rather than all the text mining shit 759635;1405609842;mircea_popescu;ah words per line. okay. also meant letters per word i guess 759636;1405609855;diana_coman;uhm, think that would be of interest? 759637;1405609864;diana_coman;kind of who uses the longest words or what? 759638;1405609870;mircea_popescu;yea 759639;1405609874;diana_coman;can be calculated though, not big deal 759640;1405609886;mircea_popescu;!s hisb0hla 759641;1405609887;assbot;9 results for 'hisb0hla' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hisb0hla 759642;1405609892;mircea_popescu;wow i had no idea. 759643;1405609902;diana_coman;that's the problem with the mean just like that 759644;1405609911;diana_coman;if you throw a wall of text once, that's it 759645;1405609923;mircea_popescu;!s omu 759646;1405609923;assbot;3 results for 'omu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=omu 759647;1405609943;mircea_popescu;lol i guess so yeah 759648;1405609945;mircea_popescu;awell 759649;1405609948;diana_coman;yeah, that's why I did not put the top 10 initially 759650;1405609959;diana_coman;it's mainly spammers at the top based on pure length of line 759651;1405609968;mircea_popescu;can it be "out of the top 100 by lines" ? 759652;1405609982;diana_coman;sure, I've put now out of the top 10 by lines 759653;1405609985;diana_coman;can extend that, np 759654;1405610425;asciilifeform;!up indiancandy1 759655;1405610557;nubbins`;so if i'm understanding correctly, that text mining blog post is recommending that people pay attention to what i have to say? 759656;1405610563;*;nubbins` chuckles softly 759657;1405610632;nubbins`;;;dict "fait accompli" 759658;1405610632;gribble;wn: fait accompli n 1: an irreversible accomplishment [syn: {fait accompli}, {accomplished fact}] 759659;1405610659;diana_coman;mircea_popescu updated with those in top 100 considered 759660;1405610675;mircea_popescu;;;dict "faire minette" 759661;1405610676;gribble;No definition for "faire minette" could be found in wn 759662;1405610682;diana_coman;I've limited it to at least 12 words per line though 759663;1405610685;mircea_popescu;well i guess wn is anti woman then, innit. 759664;1405610718;nubbins`;always suspected 759665;1405610729;nubbins`;just printed a short run of these: http://imgur.com/6WlZear 759666;1405610730;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 759667;1405610731;pankkake;wn? 759668;1405610756;nubbins`;webster's new? 759669;1405610787;pankkake;otherwise, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/faire_minette 759670;1405610787;assbot;faire minette - Wiktionary 759671;1405610803;nubbins`;:o 759672;1405610833;nubbins`;hm. 759673;1405610846;nubbins`;lit: make kitty? 759674;1405610856;BingoBoingo;Oh, today is textual analysis day, but no hermeneutics or historicity? 759675;1405610860;pankkake;;;dict "glouglouter le poireau" 759676;1405610862;gribble;No definition for "glouglouter le poireau" could be found in wn 759677;1405610872;pankkake;nubbins`: yes 759678;1405610886;*;nubbins` nods slowly 759679;1405610892;diana_coman;nubbins` more to when you say something than to what :p 759680;1405610927;nubbins`;diana_coman: i feel like i should dig a "beware" sign into the soil somewhere 8) 759681;1405610965;diana_coman;see, that's why: 'cause you care :D 759682;1405611033;mircea_popescu;so apparently a passenger plane got shot down in ukraina 759683;1405611039;indiancandy1;seriosly 759684;1405611041;indiancandy1;though 759685;1405611045;indiancandy1;buy me a ticket to india 759686;1405611047;indiancandy1;:( 759687;1405611070;mircea_popescu;why ? 759688;1405611145;pankkake;indian beggar and romanian scammer, could you guys be less stereotypical 759689;1405611163;pankkake;wait, I'm the French complainer 759690;1405611204;mike_c;HAHAH. (loud american) 759691;1405611217;*;nubbins` coughs, rubs eyes 759692;1405611242;mike_c;sickly canadian? 759693;1405611256;indiancandy1;becazuse 759694;1405611259;indiancandy1;i need 2 get to india 759695;1405611263;indiancandy1;and i cant afford it 759696;1405611265;indiancandy1;so 759697;1405611269;mircea_popescu;indiancandy1 forget your needs. focus on mine. 759698;1405611275;nubbins`;mike_c: sure, why not 759699;1405611277;indiancandy1;okay 759700;1405611279;indiancandy1;trade 759701;1405611282;indiancandy1;get me a ticket 759702;1405611287;indiancandy1;il do dirty things 4 u 759703;1405611289;indiancandy1;if u like 759704;1405611291;mike_c;omg. more than one word per line please. 759705;1405611298;indiancandy1;sorry dear 759706;1405611313;mircea_popescu;well, thing is... i don't really need you to do dirty things. 759707;1405611326;indiancandy1;im not only talking to you every other man in here 759708;1405611337;mircea_popescu;it's mostly women. 759709;1405611339;nubbins`;what has this place become 759710;1405611340;indiancandy1;im super hot and sexxy and horny LMAO and i need a one way ticket to india so 759711;1405611357;indiancandy1;who wants to trade ? 759712;1405611359;mircea_popescu;you done the begging video yet ? 759713;1405611374;pankkake;well, I need women to do dirty things for me, but I can't afford it 759714;1405611384;mircea_popescu;!up jakethesnake 759715;1405611398;nubbins`;pankkake: i need to send someone to india, but i'm a prude 759716;1405611401;indiancandy1;ur offering me 60bucks my ticket is 500gbp 759717;1405611407;mircea_popescu;pankkake if you find a whore, bring her here and then fuck her i'll pay for it. 759718;1405611441;jakethesnake;first time here -how does this wokr 759719;1405611445;asciilifeform;never understood folks who beg for airplane tickets. what do they intend to eat at the destination ? 759720;1405611456;jakethesnake;is this a bitcoin chat or what 759721;1405611473;pankkake;free food in airplanes! 759722;1405611474;nubbins`;asciilifeform: shit 759723;1405611476;nubbins`;:D 759724;1405611479;pankkake;this is the bitcoin chat 759725;1405611484;nubbins`;with apologies to gabriel garcia marquez 759726;1405611489;jakethesnake;where you from pankkake 759727;1405611498;pankkake;France 759728;1405611503;chetty;hello jakethesnake welcome, and its pretty much a free for all most of the time 759729;1405611504;nubbins`;jakethesnake: it is a bitcoin chat, after a fashion 759730;1405611509;indiancandy1;well i can pay for my accomodation is you buy my ticket 759731;1405611522;indiancandy1;if i buy my ticket i cant afford accomodation 759732;1405611529;jakethesnake;is anyone working on bitcoin initiatives in africa right now? 759733;1405611531;indiancandy1;i have 750 gbp til the 10th of aug 759734;1405611542;jakethesnake;i've got a few investors interested in starting something but am looking for some bitcoin expertise to assist 759735;1405611554;BingoBoingo;jakethesnake: A what sort of thing? 759736;1405611564;mike_c;fluffypony is in SA. 759737;1405611566;mircea_popescu;jakethesnake you could start by reading the logs. 759738;1405611568;mircea_popescu;;;topic 759739;1405611569;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 759740;1405611583;indiancandy1;mircea il do u a beg video for a tricket :P 759741;1405611584;pankkake;and search.bitcoin-assets.com 759742;1405611586;indiancandy1;ticket 759743;1405611592;nubbins`;indiancandy1 ah get out 759744;1405611592;jakethesnake;mircea - where would i find those... sorry for being such a n00b haha 759745;1405611594;mircea_popescu;a tricket lol 759746;1405611610;indiancandy1;baby dont laugh at me im upset right now 759747;1405611653;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 759748;1405611654;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 624.2, Best ask: 625.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 624.2, 24 hour volume: 6238.53812135, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.889309913 759749;1405611666;BingoBoingo;%t 759750;1405611672;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 15k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 759751;1405611672;pankkake;%diff 759752;1405611674;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 503232.97 in 525 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -35.91 759753;1405611682;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 759754;1405611686;gribble;Current Blocks: 311181 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1298 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 5 hours, 9 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18420013228.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.25102 759755;1405611692;BingoBoingo;Both coins holding steady 759756;1405611742;indiancandy1;mp u have all that money come on whats 50 gbp 2 u 759757;1405611745;indiancandy1;500* 759758;1405611759;mircea_popescu;!down indiancandy1 759759;1405611769;nubbins`;i was just checking to see when the half hour was up 759760;1405611775;nubbins`;8 minutes short ;D 759761;1405611804;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c 759762;1405611804;assbot;Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube 759763;1405611844;chetty;20 rockets were found Wednesday in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency 759764;1405611887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1001 @ 0.00269901 = 2.7017 BTC [-] {2} 759765;1405611902;asciilifeform;nubbins`: marquez << lol! that was my favourite line in the entire book! 759766;1405611920;nubbins`;such a summation, hey :D 759767;1405611947;asciilifeform;'Y mientras tanto qu comemos pregunt, y agarr al coronel por el cuello de la franela. Lo sacudi con energa. Dime, qu comemos. El coronel necesit setenta y cinco aos los setenta y cinco aos de su vida, minuto a minuto para llegar a ese instante. Se sinti puro, explcito, invencible, en el momento de responder. Mierda.' 759768;1405611948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 312 @ 0.00271381 = 0.8467 BTC [+] {2} 759769;1405612070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1460 @ 0.00270981 = 3.9563 BTC [-] {2} 759770;1405612518;mike_c;hanbot: The betting closes ~20 blocks early because otherwise the very end game presents situations that I think are non-healthy. same kind of reasons for bitbet closing bets early. the last open year is 979 because the last paid bomb goes off on year 980. 759771;1405612546;mike_c;;;later tell hanbot http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759770 759772;1405612547;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 759773;1405612547;gribble;The operation succeeded. 759774;1405612803;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79196920 BTC to 12`355 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 759775;1405612863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.13873768 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2186 satoshi per share 759776;1405612944;mthreat;mircea_popescu: I read about your flashlight woes. Here's one to consider: http://www.fleshlight.com/classics/ 759777;1405612945;assbot;Classics 759778;1405613107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 65 @ 0.01634999 = 1.0627 BTC [+] {3} 759779;1405613222;mike_c;this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] Clear Channel responded by dropping The Howard Stern Show permanently on its six stations. Stern's audience increased by 23% in Chicago and 22% in New York, and he regained the morning top spot in Los Angeles amongst listeners aged 25-54 for the first time since 1995." 759780;1405614549;BingoBoingo;http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday 759781;1405614550;assbot;White Wednesday - TheKolWiki 759782;1405617804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.00270999 = 0.5366 BTC [-] 759783;1405618723;danielpbarron;12:29:10 <+BingoBoingo> http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday << that's not the only time something like that happened 759784;1405618723;assbot;White Wednesday - TheKolWiki 759785;1405618737;danielpbarron;but Jick has a brilliant way of dealing with massive f-ups 759786;1405618753;danielpbarron;he just writes up a new storyline that connects the loose ends 759787;1405618774;danielpbarron;adds a new meat-sinking plot line 759788;1405618855;danielpbarron;like the time a bug was discovered that let any user create endless amounts of meat 759789;1405619138;FabianB;$status 759790;1405619140;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 759791;1405619140;assbot;401 Authorization Required 759792;1405620000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 381 @ 0.00270999 = 1.0325 BTC [-] {3} 759793;1405620061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 305 @ 0.00271491 = 0.828 BTC [+] {7} 759794;1405620840;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/970/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.49894723 BTC. Current weight: 85,448. 759795;1405621464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 301 @ 0.00271999 = 0.8187 BTC [-] {2} 759796;1405621586;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.002725 = 0.7903 BTC [+] 759797;1405624412;mircea_popescu;mthreat better yet, you know of a place in ba that sells that cheap inflatable furniture ? 759798;1405624819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 239 @ 0.002735 = 0.6537 BTC [-] 759799;1405625221;mircea_popescu;http://static.fleshlight.com/interface/3.0/category-tiles/1841.jpg holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ? 759800;1405625249;mircea_popescu;no wonder yahoo is making less and less selling clicks. 759801;1405625613;Namworld;At that point, why not just go for full sized, fully 3-dimensional sexbots you can print designs on with a 3d printer? 759802;1405625640;Namworld;Guess we just haven't got good enough 3d printing technology and realistic human behavior/movement for robots. Yet. 759803;1405625704;mircea_popescu;Namworld because as it turns out, nobody actually wants the woman. 759804;1405625751;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: japanese robodog has not replaced biodog. similar case here. 759805;1405625769;mircea_popescu;i beg to differ. 759806;1405625790;mircea_popescu;lcd displays + internet connection HAVE been steadily replacing dating all over the parts of the world that have cheap broadband. 759807;1405625806;mircea_popescu;add polyurethane foam in that mix, it's the end. 759808;1405625808;asciilifeform;dating - sure. end product - no 759809;1405625823;asciilifeform;not that it is impossible in principle - the tech simply isn't there yet. 759810;1405625828;mircea_popescu;feminists better yell loudly right now, because i can almost feel the volume button turning. 759811;1405625846;asciilifeform;herr mocsny spent most of a decade discussing this very subject on usenet. 759812;1405625848;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform this tech is called "derp not giving a shit". this tech is here yet. 759813;1405625914;asciilifeform;replacement tech for bio 'product' has an almost inescapable attribute - very little resemblance to the original, in the end. 'airplanes are also birds, they merely don't flap their wings...' (russian, forget who) 759814;1405625933;mircea_popescu;it's the sad fact of the matter than if you do the nude math, a tube is actually a better girlfriend than whatever random town dweller may run into. that's roughly a third (of western women) of a fifth (western world). 759815;1405625955;mircea_popescu;confronted to this fact, women balk at exactly how fucking expensive it'd be to try and compete. "what, be fucking pleasant ?" 759816;1405625981;asciilifeform;;;google danimal sexbots 759817;1405625981;gribble;Pictured: The giant 6ft cow that is as big as a small elephant | Mail ...: ; Urban Dictionary: killbot: ; Cows to be led to slaughter as a euphamism for the current SMP | M3: holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ? << gotta love the internet 759896;1405627405;asciilifeform;mthreat: the japs got there first. 759897;1405627407;asciilifeform;;;google japanese sperm donation robot 759898;1405627408;gribble;Chinese Hospitals Introduce Hands-Free Automatic Sperm Extractor ...: ; Sperm Donation Goes Hands-Free With the Automatic Sperm ...: ; Hands-Free Sperm Extractor: Zhengzhou Central Hospital In China ...: under it some metal blades turn in step with the engine closing contacts to fire the spark plugs. << Distributor cap 759939;1405629596;mircea_popescu;what, cause the teenagers there are really really frustrated ? 759940;1405629599;asciilifeform;the fellow who grows up there. until escapes. 759941;1405629618;mircea_popescu;i guess. where was this ? 759942;1405629624;asciilifeform;ohio, i think. 759943;1405629698;mircea_popescu;i guess i could see that. 759944;1405629742;chetty;A French judge has ruled against a blogger because her scathing restaurant review was too prominent in Google search results 759945;1405629812;mircea_popescu;ahaha this is rich, because succession : "Social skills will decline markedly after the advent of sex robots, much like the way electronic calculators degraded arithmetic skills." "People often cope with an unsolvable problem by convincing themselves that somehow there is some purpose or need for the problem. Like it builds character or something. But when technology eliminates a problem, people soon forget about all t 759946;1405629812;mircea_popescu;he past headgames people had to play to cope with the problem. And nobody misses the supposed "benefits" of the problem they once dreamed up excuses for." 759947;1405629817;mircea_popescu;well which the fuck is it ? 759948;1405629829;mircea_popescu;chetty what a country... 759949;1405629879;lobbes;http://www.newsweek.com/report-malaysian-passenger-plane-down-ukraine-259465 759950;1405629910;mircea_popescu;lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759682 i had it first :D 759951;1405629910;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 759952;1405629940;lobbes;lol, and I thought I had thoroughly searched the logs 759953;1405629956;BingoBoingo;I think Malaysia is just disappearing and selling these planes for BTC... 759954;1405629960;mircea_popescu;http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/slicing-crosswise-vs-lengthwise-explained-in-pict << methinks buzzfeed is missing the point. 759955;1405629961;assbot;Slicing Crosswise Vs. Lengthwise Explained In Pictures 759956;1405629977;asciilifeform;the 777 was almost certainly carrying u.s. 'consultants.' 759957;1405629985;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo sometime in 2005 they made the mistake to promise senior pilots payment "in kind" 759958;1405629993;asciilifeform;(normally, passenger routes avoid spots where people are shooting SAMs) 759959;1405629993;mircea_popescu;so now as the public retirement schemes are collapsing... 759960;1405630002;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform of course. 759961;1405630049;mircea_popescu;this is a rehash of that miserable rms lusitania bullshit. 759962;1405630058;mircea_popescu;"o the evil german submarines sunk a passenger ship kiling everyone on board 759963;1405630059;asciilifeform;classic example of u.s. armies scoring own goal for (somehow) good pr. 759964;1405630073;mircea_popescu;[which was loaded full of fulmicotton and tons of ammo, we're not saying this part]) 759965;1405630075;asciilifeform;the 'consultants' could have trivially been delivered in some other way 759966;1405630089;asciilifeform;but no. load them into a passenger tub, so it can be shot. 759967;1405630096;mircea_popescu;the only difference here is that germany didn't have a bound border. russia does. 759968;1405630104;asciilifeform;see also 'tonkin bay incident' etc 759969;1405630109;mircea_popescu;but i guess "tactical" isn't a word anymore, and so strategy is a lost art. 759970;1405630186;asciilifeform;except this... is. the anglo strategy. 759971;1405630200;asciilifeform;'what the beast until it bites, then shoot it' 759972;1405630204;asciilifeform;*whack 759973;1405630206;mircea_popescu;i guess england is the only major player to not have tried yet huh. 759974;1405630219;mircea_popescu;germany and france are satisfied. 759975;1405630250;asciilifeform;fdr on japan, etc 759976;1405630272;asciilifeform;just how 'democracy' rolls. 759977;1405630371;BingoBoingo;I suppose this is when I start digging expedient backyard shelter... 759978;1405630427;chetty;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrnes-warning-america-approaching-the-place-where-republics-go-to-die/ 759979;1405630428;assbot;Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne’s Warning: America Approaching the Place ‘Where Republics Go to Die’ | Video | TheBlaze.com 759980;1405630453;mircea_popescu;guy has a point. 759981;1405630468;asciilifeform;the interesting part is that we can infer that the organization fielding the 'consultants' (now cremated) is considered 'safe' 759982;1405630476;asciilifeform;that is, will not take matters into own hands in response. 759983;1405630501;chetty;well he is wrong about wall street controling gubermint, actually they are the same thing 759984;1405630505;asciilifeform;(by, say, making the folks who sent their men to a certain death answer for it) 759985;1405630519;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/HistoricalPics/status/489841328176762880 759986;1405630539;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how are they gonna do that ? 759987;1405630559;mircea_popescu;any "consultants" organisation of a decent size can fill an airplane with people who are costing it more than they're worth. 759988;1405630564;mircea_popescu;win-win, as they say. 759989;1405630587;asciilifeform;shtrafbat. 759990;1405630608;mircea_popescu;at some point cca 2012 any consultant with anything inside the skull started answering the "o hey, we want to promote you" with "o yeah ? who else is going ?" 759991;1405630648;asciilifeform;then we can infer that: either org is 'safe' (gelded) or the folks in command knew for a fact where the plane would end. 759992;1405630656;mircea_popescu;"in the interest of santa clause we can't say" "sorry, not interesed." 759993;1405630752;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the only thing we can infer is that the whole org is made out of people motivated through income, which means it's not really a threat to anyone (other than perhaps its employer) 759994;1405630804;BingoBoingo;%t 759995;1405630806;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 759996;1405631060;jurov;asciilifeform getting rid of people this way? 759997;1405631086;jurov;perhps you're among people whose your suspension of disbelief utterly fails toward self 759998;1405631113;mircea_popescu;jurov you don't see it ? 759999;1405631127;asciilifeform;jurov: probably not the main purpose. see 'uss maddox' and 'uss maine'. 760000;1405631134;jurov;what's there to see? 760001;1405631162;mircea_popescu;ok, let me put this to you. average us middle manager can't fuck his employees, because he's affraid of scandal. of the employees, at least a few would be open to being fucked 760002;1405631167;mircea_popescu;out of sheer boredom if nothing else. 760003;1405631180;mircea_popescu;suppose this manger now goes to work for me, and i'm "whatever, fuck them all in chains for all i care." 760004;1405631193;mircea_popescu;you're telling me he's not going to do it, becase "it's not done" or something ? 760005;1405631194;jurov;so he bribes the pilot instead? 760006;1405631204;mircea_popescu;the pilot doesn't have to know. 760007;1405631225;asciilifeform;jurov: what's there to see << passenger plane deliberately flown over SAM fire zone. shot. 'oh noez eeevil rebels!' 760008;1405631247;jurov;how does the pilot not know? 760009;1405631256;jurov;where he's flying over? 760010;1405631261;mircea_popescu;"mr jurov, we have a very important mission for you. it's to fly here : X" 760011;1405631281;mircea_popescu;(we're giving the people over at X your radio id, and they'll shoot you down. omitting to mention this part.) 760012;1405631326;jurov;that's the stupid part and risky as hell. if the pilot had half a clue, he'd leak something 760013;1405631329;chetty;and while everyone is watching this Israel is sending troops into Gaza 760014;1405631347;jurov;if that was military plane, okay, happens all the time 760015;1405631361;jurov;but relying whole plot on on civilian pilot??? 760016;1405631369;mircea_popescu;jurov people take unreasonable risks as part of their employment ALL THE TIME 760017;1405631376;mircea_popescu;especially if the employers represent them as "standard" 760018;1405631388;asciilifeform;for one thing, we have no idea who piloted. another - pilots can also have problems. 760019;1405631400;mircea_popescu;this is why there has to be a fucking board of employment in th first place, otherwise people would happily STILL be sucking down phosphorus 760020;1405631405;mircea_popescu;and licking radon paint. 760021;1405631448;jurov;bullshit 760022;1405631475;mircea_popescu;not so. 760023;1405631489;mircea_popescu;look into the story of "undark" 760024;1405631502;jurov;tell me any other example where *civilians* were used in sucha way 760025;1405631520;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2010/corporatiile-si-responsabilitatea/ << pretty good write-up, really. 760026;1405631521;assbot;Corporatiile si responsabilitatea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 760027;1405631524;mircea_popescu;i'll have to have it translated. 760028;1405631529;asciilifeform;jurov: rms lusitania. 760029;1405631575;mircea_popescu;http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls/ << english summary. 760030;1405631576;assbot;Undark and the Radium Girls Damn Interesting 760031;1405631650;jurov;they had no clue that radium is poisonous, how can you compare that with sending pilot into war zone which everyone is avoiding? 760032;1405631656;mircea_popescu;.... 760033;1405631658;asciilifeform;interestingly, british gov. still forbids any serious exploration of the lusitania wreck. 760034;1405631668;mircea_popescu;jurov they had about the same clue. 760035;1405631680;mircea_popescu;the only reason that is notable is because the radium jaw is really just phosphorus jaw. 760036;1405631690;mircea_popescu;do you know what it took to move from white to red ? 760037;1405631708;mircea_popescu;;;google phossy jaw 760038;1405631708;gribble;Phossy jaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Uncovering the cause of "phossy jaw" Circa 1858 to 1906: oral and ...: ; 10 Deadliest Occupational Diseases in History: 760039;1405631896;chetty;deliberate medical experiments are a good example of putting civillians in danger 760040;1405632609;mircea_popescu;mike_c: this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] << it does huh. 760041;1405632627;mike_c;in the sense that there is no such thing as bad publicity 760042;1405632669;mircea_popescu;i think maybe what's at work here is, that "there's no such thing as deliberate character assasination when the people trying to do it are a relatively irrelevant, powerless and uninfluential minority". 760043;1405632751;mike_c;yeah, loud criticism from an irrelevant source accidentally boosts awareness of its target. 760044;1405632774;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 760045;1405632791;mircea_popescu;extra points when the message doesn't even make sense in a way readily apparent to the intended demo. 760046;1405632813;mircea_popescu;like fcc claiming "lulz are bad mkay" or reddit claiming "people not doing what i think are evil mkay" 760047;1405632992;mircea_popescu;mthreat omfg the entire building smells of pizza. MY pizza. brb. 760048;1405633238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00270106 = 1.0804 BTC [-] {5} 760049;1405633510;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/snowden-nsa-workers-routinely-share-your-nude-photos-1606762730 760050;1405633511;assbot;Snowden: NSA Workers Routinely Share Your Nude Photos 760051;1405633532;BingoBoingo;http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/17/edward-snowden-video-interview 760052;1405633532;assbot;Edward Snowden: 'If I end up in chains in Guantnamo I can live with that' - video interview | World news | theguardian.com 760053;1405633669;BingoBoingo;So... NSA has all the n00ds 760054;1405634115;chetty;time to raid NSA for keeping child pron? 760055;1405634169;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3186XN8.txt ) 760056;1405634169;BingoBoingo;!b 2 760057;1405634349;dub;BingoBoingo: but.. if you do nothign wrong theres nothign to hide!!1 760058;1405634538;BingoBoingo;If I've done nothing wrong I have everything to hide, because I wouldn't be cool!!! 760059;1405635406;mircea_popescu;lol 760060;1405635408;mthreat;mircea_popescu: mmmmmm pizza 760061;1405636009;dub;so.. mh17 false flag op, 'murican bitbet on how long till muricans deploy? 760062;1405636014;dub;er 760063;1405636020;dub;extra murican there 760064;1405636127;mircea_popescu;yeah, how you gonna resolve it. 760065;1405636304;mircea_popescu;http://wcdn01.sexgangsters.com/static/hero/74_78_72_76_75.png << if anyone's curious, this is my current avatar. 760066;1405636760;assbot;BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 760067;1405636792;BigBitz;mircea_popescu; you're one crazy man. 760068;1405636802;mircea_popescu;what now !? 760069;1405636806;mircea_popescu;!up BayAreaCoins 760070;1405636829;mircea_popescu;o o lol. 760071;1405636842;BayAreaCoins;(just fucking off with WoT stuff, but ty sir) 760072;1405637375;BingoBoingo;!up Peach 760073;1405637388;BayAreaCoins;Olah peach, so boobies?? 760074;1405637392;BayAreaCoins;:P 760075;1405637404;Peach;lol 760076;1405637425;Peach;How much is offered? 760077;1405637431;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu is the dude to talk to if they are still offering that. 760078;1405637453;mircea_popescu;lol what worked. 760079;1405637466;BingoBoingo;!up Peach 760080;1405637483;BingoBoingo;Oh noes netslips 760081;1405637513;mircea_popescu;webirc split huh. 760082;1405637537;Peach;what are they asking for? 760083;1405637557;Peach;I don't like this, just-dice is easier to read. 760084;1405637589;BayAreaCoins;Peach ok so the deal was last time i was in here. For .1 you get a string of letters n numbers. Send a pic of boobs with that and the letters/number = free .1btc. 760085;1405637624;Peach;I would do it with it covering up my nipples but I'm not showing my boobs for .1 Bay 760086;1405637639;mircea_popescu;Peach http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ read that. 760087;1405637640;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 760088;1405637689;Peach;I'm not showing full on boobs for .1btc 760089;1405637715;Peach;if I can cover up my nipples I will hold a sign or whatever, but not nudes. 760090;1405637782;BingoBoingo;%d 760091;1405637784;dub;mircea_popescu: I just checked #bitcoin-camwhores, its avail 760092;1405637790;Peach;I made a dance video I will share for .1btv ;) 760093;1405637857;BigBitz;wait... 760094;1405637860;BigBitz;what... 760095;1405637862;BigBitz;nipples. 760096;1405637864;BigBitz;nudes. 760097;1405637880;*;BigBitz throws money at screen. 760098;1405637886;BayAreaCoins;lol 760099;1405637907;Peach;would have to be way more than .1 for nudes lol 760100;1405637918;BigBitz;Heh. 760101;1405637932;BingoBoingo;;;google they really are buttcoins nao 760102;1405637932;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 760103;1405637934;BayAreaCoins;O well I tried! Sry to waste your time peaches <3 760104;1405637989;BigBitz;is Peach a camwhore? 760105;1405637992;BayAreaCoins;Negative 760106;1405638000;BayAreaCoins;Just-dice mod who is actually pretty cute 760107;1405638000;BigBitz;but you're trying to pimp her? 760108;1405638004;BayAreaCoins;Um no 760109;1405638012;BayAreaCoins;I just like tits 760110;1405638019;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 500209.74 in 501 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -36.29 760111;1405638019;BigBitz;I am an avid fan of tits. 760112;1405638037;BayAreaCoins;Me too my dude me too :D Figure she makes .1 and we see tits... win win 760113;1405638042;mircea_popescu;!down Peach 760114;1405638045;mircea_popescu;why do people think there's something to negotiate is entirely beyond me. 760115;1405638055;mircea_popescu;dub so get it. 760116;1405638056;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2WZ5RT8.txt ) 760117;1405638056;BingoBoingo;!b 3 760118;1405638057;mircea_popescu;motherfucker what is wrong with assbot now. 760119;1405638059;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla whay assbot not werk. 760120;1405638061;mircea_popescu;halelujah. 760121;1405638070;kakobrekla;m? 760122;1405638078;mircea_popescu;well it took meanwhile 760123;1405638084;mircea_popescu;the !down peach is about 50 lines up. 760124;1405638135;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/15/ra/4TNIsTqN/irc.png 760125;1405638138;kakobrekla;move to a faster country. 760126;1405638189;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla omg hater on lulzgertina. it was prolly freenode being all slow! 760127;1405638247;kakobrekla;your net is slow slow i still didnt get your lulzgertina line. 760128;1405638253;mircea_popescu;hahah 760129;1405638312;BingoBoingo;!up nubbins` 760130;1405638377;BigBitz;!down mircea_popescu 760131;1405638381;BigBitz;Nice. 760132;1405638388;BigBitz;Bot knows mircea_popescu is the MASTAH. 760133;1405638437;BigBitz;!down mircea_popescu 760134;1405638440;BigBitz;NICE. 760135;1405638442;BigBitz;:) 760136;1405638522;mircea_popescu;!down BigBitz 760137;1405638526;mircea_popescu;it dun work on l2 ppls. 760138;1405638544;BayAreaCoins;!down bayareacoins 760139;1405638554;mircea_popescu;lmao 760140;1405638557;BigBitz;:) 760141;1405638565;BigBitz;you can't down me, mircea_popescu? 760142;1405638567;BingoBoingo;sha-256 d5c959a536771ac215bc678d788f41b39c5000223e653881d3892531031116c2 760143;1405638585;mircea_popescu;BigBitz not through this interface anyway. 760144;1405638594;BigBitz;:) 760145;1405638605;BingoBoingo;!up BayAreaCoins 760146;1405638612;BayAreaCoins;:P thanks 760147;1405638618;BigBitz;!down BayAreaCoins 760148;1405638619;BingoBoingo;BayAreaCoins: Now you know the hazards of going down on yourself 760149;1405638627;mircea_popescu;BayAreaCoins so if this chick isn't a camwhore why exactly would you be pestering her. 760150;1405638632;BigBitz;:) 760151;1405638632;BingoBoingo;!up BayAreaCoins 760152;1405638641;BigBitz;( Sorry. I'll stop now. I'm going ) 760153;1405638662;BingoBoingo;!up moiety_ 760154;1405638690;BayAreaCoins;mircea_popescu um cause you got to start somewhere. She was interested. She had made a dancing video in Just-dice and LiKaShing tipped her like 20btc.. I didnt figure she would be down, but close mouths don't get fed (titties in this case. She had nice tits it appeared) 760155;1405638711;BayAreaCoins;Worth a shot. 760156;1405638738;mircea_popescu;i guess. 760157;1405638760;mircea_popescu;worst angle a girl could possibly present herself if she's not actually a pro. simply comes off as a whiny entitled pointless bitch. 760158;1405638819;BingoBoingo;Maybe she just hashes her nipples to make private keys? 760159;1405638972;BayAreaCoins;I dunno she had nice tits in her dancing vid, but not over .1btc nice tits imo. O well shrug off that fail and keep on keeping on. More tits in the world :) 760160;1405639701;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-great-idea-for-a-film/ 760161;1405639886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.0027 = 0.783 BTC [-] 760162;1405640675;cazalla;indiancandy1: malaysia airlines is running a special if you still need a ticket 760163;1405640962;kakobrekla;only seven buttcoins? 760164;1405640976;kakobrekla;but the flight is in sex weeks. 760165;1405641386;mircea_popescu;"I've noticed the same weird principle on soc.singles: the more a man needs a virtual woman, the more threatened he is by the very concept. Why is that? [Rhetorical.]" << for the exact same reason poor people understand better than rich people that they can't afford substitutes. 760166;1405641783;BingoBoingo;Gribble why can't Malasia airlines stay in the air? 760167;1405641787;BingoBoingo;;;8ball 760168;1405641787;gribble;Come again? 760169;1405642146;fluffypony;;;8ball can Air Malaysia go another 6 months without an incident? 760170;1405642146;gribble;One would be wise to think so. 760171;1405642167;fluffypony;;;8ball is BingoBoingo secretly a ball player? 760172;1405642167;gribble;Maybe... 760173;1405642174;fluffypony;vague. 760174;1405642216;mircea_popescu;;;8ball did fluffypony have sex with his wife and two hookers 760175;1405642216;gribble;Maybe... 760176;1405642221;BingoBoingo;;;8ball is fluffypony wearing his pony tail buttplug like right nao? 760177;1405642222;gribble;Yes! 760178;1405642223;fluffypony;hah hah 760179;1405642230;fluffypony;woo hoo! 760180;1405642241;fluffypony;gribble is the font of all knowledge 760181;1405642260;mircea_popescu;;;8ball was that lawsky fellow one of the hookers ? 760182;1405642260;gribble;You're kidding, right? 760183;1405642265;cazalla;BayAreaCoins, post dancing vid link at least 760184;1405642291;mircea_popescu;;;8ball im kidding, right ? 760185;1405642292;gribble;The outlook is poor. 760186;1405642297;mircea_popescu;lol 760187;1405642316;fluffypony;;;8ball is everyone on the Bitcoin foundation seriously into little boys? 760188;1405642317;gribble;Maybe... 760189;1405642332;mircea_popescu;;;8ball are the little boys enjoying it ? 760190;1405642332;gribble;Yes! 760191;1405642337;fluffypony;hah hah 760192;1405642342;mircea_popescu;i guess gribble's one of 'em. 760193;1405642382;mircea_popescu;;;8ball do you find assbot attractive ? 760194;1405642383;gribble;I doubt it very much. 760195;1405642885;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/ 760196;1405642913;BingoBoingo;;;8ball Paranoia is healthy if it is for practical reasons, right? 760197;1405642914;gribble;In your dreams. 760198;1405642942;cazalla;!up BayAreaCoins 760199;1405643564;BingoBoingo;;;8ball What about atcbot gribble. You know atcbot can get it. 760200;1405643564;gribble;Yes! 760201;1405643679;BingoBoingo;%ob 760202;1405643680;atcbot;722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 208k@210 200k@202 45k@201 760203;1405644129;BingoBoingo;!t h Cog 760204;1405644130;assbot;You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. 760205;1405644414;kakobrekla;you prolly wont get it on hl 760206;1405644433;kakobrekla;!last havelock cognitive 760207;1405644433;assbot;These beans is shit. 760208;1405644436;kakobrekla;yeah 760209;1405644455;BingoBoingo;;;later tell bitcoinpete You cut off my hashing privates joke early... :( 760210;1405644455;gribble;The operation succeeded. 760211;1405644461;kakobrekla;!last havelock cog 760212;1405644461;assbot;Last trade for COG on HAVELOCK was at 0.00160016 BTC [-] 760213;1405644471;kakobrekla;thar. 760214;1405644498;BingoBoingo;Ah 760215;1405644501;BingoBoingo;!Mpif 760216;1405644502;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 760217;1405644507;BingoBoingo;!mpiF 760218;1405644507;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 760219;1405644889;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 314 @ 0.00268559 = 0.8433 BTC [-] {3} 760220;1405644949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 455 @ 0.0026502 = 1.2058 BTC [-] {3} 760221;1405645873;danielpbarron;!up VanCleef 760222;1405645996;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: My how the kingdom of loathing has changed since I last visited. 760223;1405646012;danielpbarron;yeah; they make new content on a monthly basis 760224;1405646029;danielpbarron;with other random changes at any time 760225;1405646075;BingoBoingo;It just seems... to have accelerated a lot since the last time I was on (roughly the Crimborg outbreak) 760226;1405646093;danielpbarron;I don't know what that is 760227;1405646097;BingoBoingo;reeses: rng whitening http://www.epmonthly.com/www.epmonthly.com/features/current-features/oxygen-is-a-drug-act-accordingly/ Rassah alf 760228;1405646099;assbot;Oxygen is a Drug Act Accordingly 760229;1405646110;danielpbarron;I don't play continuously 760230;1405646111;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: It was one of their christmas events 760231;1405646123;BingoBoingo;Maybe '07 or '08 760232;1405646140;danielpbarron;sometimes I get really into it and log in every day to get the most adventures per day or whatever 760233;1405646152;danielpbarron;right now I'm not playing it at all 760234;1405646191;danielpbarron;I focus on getting #1 collections of items, especially items that cannot be traded or discarded 760235;1405646254;BingoBoingo;May short term goal now that I remembered it is a thing is to get spectral pickles to be my favorite food again now that the price has come down 10 fold from the last time I saw them. 760236;1405646267;BingoBoingo;Also to try these new seasonal ascensions I missed 760237;1405646295;danielpbarron;my main account was created before ascension rolled out and has never ascended 760238;1405646311;BingoBoingo;Ah, that was back before I had regular internet access 760239;1405646319;danielpbarron;2004ish 760240;1405646364;danielpbarron;i recently moved into spectral picals 760241;1405646374;danielpbarron;pickles*; I was previously in ten-leaf-clovers 760242;1405646389;danielpbarron;april fools rolled around so I made the switch 760243;1405646404;BingoBoingo;Ah 760244;1405646406;moiety;see google added btc currency converting to the search box 760245;1405646413;BingoBoingo;moiety: It did indeed 760246;1405646434;BingoBoingo;I wonder when Larry and Sergey will come in here groveling for airfare? 760247;1405646463;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Most of my playing occured in the spectral pickle factory drought 760248;1405646585;BingoBoingo;reeses: User provided entropy sources http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25859-stem-cell-treatment-causes-nasal-growth-in-womans-back.html Rassah asciilifeform 760249;1405646586;assbot;Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist 760250;1405646682;danielpbarron;the most impressive thing I did in KoL was get the #8 collection of FDKOL Commendations 760251;1405646720;danielpbarron;unless someone is sitting on a huge pile that they haven't publically displayed, that will never get topped (can't get that item anymore and you can't trade it) 760252;1405646862;BingoBoingo;I dunno really if I did anything too special 760253;1405646949;BingoBoingo;I mean last time I really played Kol was before 68749514392093b165be8c9c53df18107748fb18a50f0e4352fce5d0cfe56943 760254;1405646962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00270336 = 2.7034 BTC [+] {7} 760255;1405646986;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014-info/mh17/mh17.htm << ua mop-up. 760256;1405647090;danielpbarron;every time I end up playing it again, I end up wasting too much time optimizing my adventures per day and it becomes like a job that doesn't pay 760257;1405647143;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: The thing to do is get drunk and bank adventures for the next day while actually getting drunk so you pass out 760258;1405647144;danielpbarron;I'll just leave my spectral pickle pile in my mall store until the price moves up and then use that meat to back MEAT 760259;1405647154;danielpbarron;yeah I know about that 760260;1405647159;danielpbarron;it gets way deeper than that 760261;1405647202;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: What class you play as? I forget. 760262;1405647211;*;danielpbarron is a pastamancer! 760263;1405647225;danielpbarron;but classes don't matter so much anymore of you ascend a lot 760264;1405647412;BingoBoingo;ascending takes a lot longer post NS 13 760265;1405647487;BingoBoingo;So many lols https://twitter.com/RealCoins 760266;1405647488;assbot;Real Coins (RealCoins) auf Twitter 760267;1405647870;BingoBoingo;!up Basquiat_ 760268;1405647874;BingoBoingo;Hello Basquiat_ 760269;1405648352;BingoBoingo;Erik speaks http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ 760270;1405648353;assbot;Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal 760271;1405648481;BingoBoingo;http://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2014/07/17/235 760272;1405648481;assbot;linux-kernel - [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call 760273;1405648677;dignork;asciilifeform: is hashing random input is inherently a bad idea? 760274;1405648697;asciilifeform;dignork: consider what a hash (any algo) actually does. 760275;1405648771;dignork;assume the following scenario, I'm generating random data by throwing dices, but I expect some bias: dices are non-ideal 760276;1405648790;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://signor-antonio.livejournal.com/378722.html << flight plan shenanigans 760277;1405648805;BingoBoingo;dignork: You don't machine and balance your dice at each corner? 760278;1405648821;asciilifeform;dignork: the correct answer is von neumann's 'fair coin' algorithm. 760279;1405648856;asciilifeform;gives unbiased output at the potential cost of never terminating (in that case you know for a fact that your entropy source is defective) 760280;1405648959;dignork;asciilifeform: so compensating bias by hashing a bit more of the dice raw data is a bad idea I guess 760281;1405649001;asciilifeform;dignork: hash is a good way to close your own eyes on problems with the rng 760282;1405649009;BingoBoingo;dignork: Turn the six sides into two outcomes 0 and 1, but first make sure the dice balance at the eight corners 760283;1405649024;asciilifeform;consider sha2(0, sha2(0, sha2(0, ... ))) 760284;1405649037;dignork;BingoBoingo: I'm assuming usage of cheap off-the-shelf dice 760285;1405649038;asciilifeform;the sequence will pass 'diehard' and whatever tests of 'entropic' you like 760286;1405649046;asciilifeform;without being the least bit useful cryptographically 760287;1405649052;asciilifeform;just as, e.g. the digits of 'pi' will. 760288;1405649104;dignork;asciilifeform: I get it, but if the data is really random with "small" bias, how hashing makes it worse? 760289;1405649127;BingoBoingo;dignork: The way hashes break is "collisions" 760290;1405649151;BingoBoingo;You don't get to pick what weaker value might collide without your tronger input 760291;1405649163;asciilifeform;dignork: two separate issues. one - by papering over the problem. two - hashing introduces a correlation between bits, that may be useful to enemy who devoted serious effort to studying the hash in question. 760292;1405649209;*;dignork gone away, a bit smarter 760293;1405649224;asciilifeform;note that that last part is (afaik) discussed - nowhere, by no one. 760294;1405649230;asciilifeform;don't look for it in the textbooks 760295;1405649283;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Roughly spring 2005 that was in a discrete mathematics class I took. Don't remember if in the since resold textbook or not. 760296;1405649285;dignork;i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output 760297;1405649322;*;BingoBoingo was roughly beginning the process of rotting his brain with booze at this point 760298;1405649364;BingoBoingo;The professor/underDean teaching also had a ~10 year CV black hole... 760299;1405649367;asciilifeform;rng designers very often succumb to the temptation to 'inflate' their output using a hash 760300;1405649385;asciilifeform;which is precisely this scenario - input is considerably smaller than out 760301;1405649421;asciilifeform;even assuming equal sized input and output - consider the set of all possible outputs of, e.g. sha2. 760302;1405649431;asciilifeform;for a given width of input 760303;1405649437;BingoBoingo;Professor in question was roughly a reverse Mircea, man dominated by wife 760304;1405649489;asciilifeform;it is quite possible (for want of a proof, i cannot declare definitively) that certain bitstrings can -never- get spat out 760305;1405649526;asciilifeform;thus, the set of possible outputs has a 'hole' 760306;1405649560;asciilifeform;likewise, given that (by design!) a 'cryptographic' hash will be computed in such a way that every bit of the input affects every bit out the output, 760307;1405649575;asciilifeform;the enemy now knows something about bit N by knowing bit N-k. 760308;1405649585;asciilifeform;exactly what he knows - i can't say 760309;1405649593;asciilifeform;but there is a nonzero amount of information conveyed. 760310;1405649607;asciilifeform;simply by the fact of the hash being in use 760311;1405649619;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1KXJQ18.txt ) 760312;1405649619;BingoBoingo;!b 7 760313;1405649675;asciilifeform;don't accept the above as 'gospel', study the design of a popular traditional hash and see exactly what i'm getting at 760314;1405649720;asciilifeform;as to how an enemy might proceed to put this hypothesis to actual use, see example of 'satcoin'. 760315;1405649724;asciilifeform;!s satcoin 760316;1405649725;assbot;8 results for 'satcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=satcoin 760317;1405649776;asciilifeform;(frame the hash operation as a logical 'sat' system, work backwards to exclude regions of possible input state space based on known output bits) 760318;1405649892;BingoBoingo;So considering the partial UCL tear "No" on either of these bets is very probably free money up to the house edge collision http://bitbet.us/bet/883/masahiro-tanaka-will-win-al-cy-young-award/ http://bitbet.us/bet/739/masahiro-tanaka-wins-more-than-15-games/ 760319;1405649892;assbot;BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka will win AL Cy Young award :: 0.04 B (27%) on Yes, 0.11 B (73%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 69`978 (100`000 to 1) 760320;1405649892;assbot;BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka wins more than 15 games :: 0.3 B (57%) on Yes, 0.23 B (43%) on No | closing in 2 months 6 days | weight: 27`828 (100`000 to 1) 760321;1405650218;BingoBoingo;!up AndrewJackson Y u kill Cherokee? 760322;1405650244;BingoBoingo;Ur basically 'Murcan Hitler AndrewJackson 760323;1405650266;BingoBoingo;Well, more 'Murican Netanyahu since the Cherokee were tan, but... 760324;1405650925;AndrewJackson;BingoBoingo - i'm not really Andrewjackson, its just my handle 760325;1405650957;BingoBoingo;AndrewJackson: Fuck you, that group accounted for like 1/32 of my ancestors 760326;1405650992;BingoBoingo;Not sure exactly because of cultural norms about breeding age vs. actualuality of the thing 760327;1405651403;BingoBoingo;%t 760328;1405651404;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 760329;1405651407;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 760330;1405651409;gribble;Current Blocks: 311255 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1224 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18508732489.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.76277 760331;1405651416;BingoBoingo;%ob 760332;1405651417;atcbot;722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 20k@211 208k@210 200k@202 760333;1405651666;decimation;asciilifeform: to quote Knuth on the subject: "There is a fairly obvious objection to this technique [using arithmetic operations to acquire random numbers]: How can a sequence generated in such a way be random, since each number is completely determined by its predecessor? The answer is that the sequence isn't random, but it appears to be. In typical applications the actual relationship between one number and its successor has no 760334;1405651668;decimation;physical significance; hence the nonrandom character is not really undesirable" 760335;1405651781;BingoBoingo;For anyone contemplating higher than kitchen oven temperatures, but less than barrel fire temperatures: http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt1pyro.htm http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt2pyro.htm 760336;1405651794;decimation;laster: "Sequences generated in a deterministic way such as this are often called pseudoranom or quasirandom sequences in the highbrow technical literature, but in most places of this book we shall simply call them random sequences, with the understanding that they only appear to be random. Being "apparently random" is perhaps all that can be said about any random sequence anyway." 760337;1405651823;decimation;not terribly satisfactory 760338;1405651877;BingoBoingo;Some would say that objection is a "political objection" 760339;1405652059;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 760340;1405652067;Duffer1;ni hao 760341;1405652080;Duffer1;r u china 760342;1405652089;Duffer1;:P 760343;1405652092;BingoBoingo;lol 760344;1405652121;Duffer1;most of the new parts are here today, case tomorrow 760345;1405652136;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489966636279939072 760346;1405652195;Duffer1;my old comp served me well, she will be missed 760347;1405652240;BingoBoingo;Duffer1: Always 760348;1405652527;BingoBoingo;Though maybe in the tweet I should have included the canonical form 760349;1405652706;BingoBoingo;So who here hasn't written a requiem in case "wetware has problems..." 760350;1405652735;Duffer1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iecuzMLmo 760351;1405652735;assbot;gandalf falls one hour - YouTube 760352;1405653306;benkay;who is this diana_coman? 760353;1405653314;benkay;;;gettrust diana_coman 760354;1405653314;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user diana_coman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=diana_coman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=diana_coman | Rated since: Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013 760355;1405653445;benkay;wow 760356;1405653530;BingoBoingo;/me wonders who hasn't written their own requiem 760357;1405653650;BingoBoingo;Or has papers saying their cadaver has joined the roman church at the moment of death 760358;1405653689;dub;wat 760359;1405653737;BingoBoingo;dub: I have vices, my last minutes aren't going to be pretty. I want the mourners at my memorial to feel that. 760360;1405653828;BingoBoingo;Also you can make the song of wrath in the requiem pretty badass with some power cords, diminished 5th's and ending the whole thing on a suspended seventh... 760361;1405653849;dub;you'll be dead, what does it matter 760362;1405653887;benkay;hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg 760363;1405653897;BingoBoingo;dub: I'll still be a ghost and I'll haunt the shit out of you if you keep up this attitude 760364;1405653956;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 760365;1405654157;BingoBoingo;Catholicism does a lot of shit wrong like Brock style kiddie diddling, but they do some stuff right like giving the memorial service for the dead a song of wrath 760366;1405654734;BingoBoingo;!up transfix 760367;1405654741;BingoBoingo;!up Lycerion 760368;1405654767;BingoBoingo;!up Luke-Jr 760369;1405654797;BingoBoingo;Luke-Jr: The song of wrath: A cool perk of Catholicism, or so cool it is the only necessary part? 760370;1405654966;asciilifeform;decimation: the suitability of a number sequence for use as 'cryptographic entropy' is not a mathematical property of the sequence. it is a property of the aggregate of the sequence and the world in which it lives - i.e. whether the sequence is, or can easily become, known to the enemy. 760371;1405655003;asciilifeform;decimation: to make this clearer: the digits of 'pi' pass every test of 'entropic quality' you can think of. except, naturally, the fact of them being the digits of 'pi.' 760372;1405655325;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/489980028289961984 760373;1405655331;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: re: those pots: 760374;1405655335;asciilifeform;;;google microwave foundry 760375;1405655335;gribble;How to make a crucible for a microwave foundry - YouTube: ; How to make a microwave foundry part 2 - YouTube: ; Microwave melting of metals - Talisman: 760376;1405655348;asciilifeform;^ similar design 760377;1405655401;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: To tell you the truth what I really want to do is synthetic corundrum in my back yard 760378;1405655677;BingoBoingo;!up tych0 760379;1405655870;dub;http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld 760380;1405655870;assbot;Intercepted Audio of Ukraine Separatists - Video - NYTimes.com 760381;1405655874;dub;dat oh shi- moment 760382;1405655879;decimation;\ 760383;1405656035;BingoBoingo;!up chax 760384;1405656079;*;BingoBoingo marvels over how common aluminum oxides are and yet how coveted particular tained aluminum oxides are 760385;1405656292;asciilifeform;decimation: knuth was, in fact, wrong. there are inadequacies in a pseudorandom sequence of whatever variety that do not concern cryptography at all. see, for example, this - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574674 760386;1405656293;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 760387;1405656519;dub;BingoBoingo: related thinkg floated past my twitter feed http://kidsactivitiesblog.com/9140/mummification-lets-mummify-barbie 760388;1405656519;assbot;Mummification: Let's Mummify Barbie! - Kids Activities Blog 760389;1405656547;*;BingoBoingo has mixed feelings. would like to see if pcp give asciilifeform further practical paranoia or takes him over the edge 760390;1405656568;*;asciilifeform hasn't tried, generally works sober 760391;1405656672;*;BingoBoingo still believs in "Balmer Coefficient" even if Ballmer hasn't hit it himself in decades. 760392;1405656724;BingoBoingo;dub: I am horrified at that lapse. You can't rightly mummify things that never lived. 760393;1405656973;dub;china brings teh science https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsyt5ZrCAAEDBPT.jpg 760394;1405656989;dub;(official party twitter acct) 760395;1405656998;BingoBoingo;dub: OMG 7 is te new 4!!! 760396;1405657094;dub;and if you fold a 20 yuan note in 3 and holt it upside down maos nose looks like a 7 760397;1405657288;dub;also teh cure for aids was on that flight 760398;1405657333;dub;and 7 is the gayest number 760399;1405657394;BingoBoingo;I thought <-8 was the gayest number 760400;1405657440;dignork;numerlogy - extreme facepalm http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/in-extremis-bodies-with-no-regret-sandro-giordano-9.jpg 760401;1405657656;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl 760402;1405658802;jborkl;Thank you 760403;1405658860;BingoBoingo;You are welcome jborkl 760404;1405658959;jborkl;So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? 760405;1405659319;BingoBoingo;Seems to be going from MP's reports... Just the pain of rebuilding and robusting at the same time is a further necessary pain 760406;1405659547;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 760407;1405659549;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 626.89, Best ask: 626.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 626.89, 24 hour volume: 4729.62277386, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.870745689 760408;1405661701;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/490006684354355200 760409;1405661745;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/17/beware-the-source-or-the-festering-of-innovation-maybe-even-of-song-of-natures-wrath-but-who-really-knows-so-stfu/ 760410;1405662047;BingoBoingo;So... mircea_popescu offers camgirls 0.1 BTC for tits, I offer lawsky 0.01 for sharpie in the pooper 760411;1405662093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.17409562 = 11.1421 BTC [-] {16} 760412;1405662546;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Link to http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html on #b-a site is broken because benkay kills blawgs 760413;1405662546;assbot;404 Not Found 760414;1405662743;BingoBoingo;!up bayareacoins 760415;1405662762;BingoBoingo;!up smidge 760416;1405662854;bayareacoins;Thanks man 760417;1405662869;BingoBoingo;You're welcome 760418;1405662894;bayareacoins;How is your day going? Anything fun and exciting or just another day in the neighborhood? 760419;1405662915;BingoBoingo;Just drunk as fuck and shat out a new blawg post 760420;1405662936;bayareacoins;Niceeee whatcha drinking on? 760421;1405662985;BingoBoingo;bayareacoins: Grain alcohol and distilled water. POE 760422;1405662988;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489934497434308608 760423;1405663033;bayareacoins;If you ever need a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle or anything similar to that let me know and I can probably beat markets price 760424;1405663056;BingoBoingo;WFT is Pappy van winkle??? 760425;1405663080;bayareacoins;Small batch bourbon. Best bourbon in the universe good sir. 760426;1405663100;BingoBoingo;And how does it advance my goal of purity of essence. Simple mix of ETOH and H2O 760427;1405663153;BingoBoingo;Ruskies just shot down a plane of CIA aids inventors https://twitter.com/DoubleEmMartin/status/489945991949594624 have to start cleansing nao. 760428;1405663186;bayareacoins;If you have to ask then you probably don't need to know :D Just know if you ever do want a bottle of Pappy hit me up :) 760429;1405663210;bayareacoins;Now that you heard about it tonight I bet you hear about it at least twice more this week. Generally how it works 760430;1405663241;BingoBoingo;I actually prefer the standards. Distilled liqour is an area where the scaling up tends to produce more consistent quality. 760431;1405663268;bayareacoins;lol 760432;1405663296;bayareacoins;These are $2000 bottles + . They only bottle 3000 23yr's on the years they do bottle. 760433;1405663359;BingoBoingo;And if I am in a Whiskey mood how does $2000 for moonshine beat General Grant's favorite old corw at the low end or moiety's people at the high end? 760434;1405663383;bayareacoins;You've seen $2000 moonshine before? 760435;1405663398;bayareacoins;I'm from the Ozarks and have never seen that :D 760436;1405663510;bayareacoins;BingoBoingo good sir, you have a wonderful night. I'm off to holler at this chick and then pass out. 760437;1405663516;BingoBoingo;bayareacoins: That's part of the problem with the price point. I've drank small batch hillbilly made and aged moonshine. Scarcity for its own sake does not guarentee a premium product 760438;1405663524;BingoBoingo;lol 760439;1405663553;bayareacoins;You're out of your element Donny :D google Pappy Van Winkle. Gnight :D 760440;1405663663;BingoBoingo;I have a feeling the natural end to this debate would be similar to Mircea's debate about wines 760441;1405663713;BingoBoingo;Trying to jsut artificially up the price is an LVHM sort of scam 760442;1405663991;dub;there is the small matter of aesthetics 760443;1405664311;BingoBoingo;dub: Aethetics is a large matter 760444;1405664361;BingoBoingo;Whiskey can only get so good in Kentucky and Wild Turkey and Knobb Creek own that niche. To get better you need Wisky from Scotland. 760445;1405665043;dub;im not going to argue but I know people who would 760446;1405665156;dignork;BingoBoingo: why do you assume that killswitch opportunity is over (your link to loper)? 760447;1405665189;BingoBoingo;dignork: Nash Equilibrium 760448;1405665240;dignork;at the time of writing balance was different? 760449;1405665313;BingoBoingo;Well compare pub dates. 760450;1405665468;dignork;2 years ago, gox is dead, large holders still exist, potential of dropping price to near zero is still there 760451;1405665613;BingoBoingo;Dropping to near zero on Stamp et al is still possible, but... Actual drop to near zero isn't possible... 760452;1405665618;BingoBoingo;Not anymore 760453;1405665649;dignork;;;market sell 100000 760454;1405665649;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10818261.1549 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1826 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 39.6821 seconds 760455;1405665717;BingoBoingo;And who other than a govenment would survive doing such a sell on stamp to colelct their fiat after the Bitstamp anal probe? 760456;1405665815;dignork;tbh, i don't think that short price drop would kill the system, but I still don't see how today is different from 2012 760457;1405665847;BingoBoingo;Well, how much BTC does Usagi or Dank control atm? 760458;1405665890;dignork;dunno, 10k? 760459;1405665894;BingoBoingo;Honestly that change was what made $100/BTC possible 760460;1405665904;BingoBoingo;Nah, maybe together they control 15 760461;1405665964;dignork;So them loosing btc, makes killswitch impossible? 760462;1405666023;BingoBoingo;Well, it makes it harder that dude who can't sell his guitar and dude who can't sell his bike no longer have BTC to sell 760463;1405666062;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 760464;1405666117;BingoBoingo;dignork: That people who hold BTC now are capable of buying more if it goes down instead of crying makes a big difference. 760465;1405669348;mircea_popescu;assbot: Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist << lmao 760466;1405669457;mircea_popescu;dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output << you have to look into rainbow tables. try something easy and well studied like md5 760467;1405669488;mircea_popescu;by the time you've got a few tbs of rainbow tables you generally also have a good enough understanding of why exactly whitening doesn't do much. 760468;1405669821;mircea_popescu;;;later tell decimation you'll have to bear in mind knuth was interested in randomness from the perspective of scientific simulation, not from the perspective of cryptography (a topic he never reasearched or to any degree understood) 760469;1405669823;gribble;The operation succeeded. 760470;1405669855;mircea_popescu;benkay http://trilema.com/2010/azi-nu-se-sarbatoreste-nimic/#comment-17112 760471;1405669856;assbot;Azi nu se sarbatoreste nimic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 760472;1405669944;mircea_popescu;jborkl: So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? << slowly. 760473;1405672612;mircea_popescu;!up Madeline 760474;1405672946;mircea_popescu;!up mrX_ 760475;1405672966;mrX_;ty 760476;1405673114;mircea_popescu;yw. so who are you ? 760477;1405673133;mrX_;BitBet user 760478;1405673138;mircea_popescu;cool. 760479;1405673224;Madeline;how do I get gribble to authorize me? 760480;1405673240;mrX_;I wonder if BitBet has anything to say about how they are refusing to resolve this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 760481;1405673240;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago 760482;1405673246;mircea_popescu;Madeline are you registered ? 760483;1405673268;pankkake;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 760484;1405673268;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 760485;1405673270;mircea_popescu;mrX_ waiting for teh usms to come up with the winning bid. 760486;1405673276;Madeline;I'm going to say no 760487;1405673304;mircea_popescu;Madeline then folow pankkake's link 760488;1405673310;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3498 lol I love the anonymous comments of BitBet 760489;1405673310;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago 760490;1405673325;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's almost like 4chan pre-cancer. 760491;1405673329;Madeline;awesome, thank you! 760492;1405673359;mrX_;trolls will be trolls 760493;1405673413;pankkake;I hope we eventually know though, refunds are no fun 760494;1405673422;fluffypony;I don't get why that bet is an issue 760495;1405673424;pankkake;I'm not sure they realize bitbet takes the fee anyways 760496;1405673426;fluffypony;the price hasn't been released 760497;1405673445;mircea_popescu;fluffypony new people. 760498;1405673450;pankkake;they consider it won't ever be? 760499;1405673462;mircea_popescu;!up bitcoinhtx 760500;1405673474;fluffypony;pankkake: as far as I'm aware there have been a bunch of FOIA requests submitted, so it will be made public 760501;1405673489;mircea_popescu;fluffypony wouldn';t be the first time the usg ignores the us law. 760502;1405673502;fluffypony;that's true, but then we wait for the FOIA requests to be rejected 760503;1405673511;mircea_popescu;well ya 760504;1405673512;pankkake;what are the typical delays for this? 760505;1405673518;fluffypony;pankkake: around a month 760506;1405673527;mircea_popescu;pankkake legally required to answer within 30 days. 760507;1405673542;pankkake;wow, well. it's pretty clear it's best to wait 760508;1405673549;mircea_popescu;and to think tho, this was going to be such a sweet psych op. they had it all planned and shit. and nao... 760509;1405673566;mircea_popescu;cowering behind desks, can't even say what the grandiose auction closed for. 760510;1405673586;fluffypony;maybe they've been asked not to release the price 760511;1405673589;fluffypony;by the winner 760512;1405673592;mircea_popescu;a few moar victories like this and teh usg won't need any defeats. 760513;1405673729;pankkake;what, you think there's an organized conspiracy or something? 760514;1405673746;Madeline;I came here to draw something on my tits from this post - http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ 760515;1405673748;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 760516;1405673756;mircea_popescu;pankkake yes. they were going to announce it originally. but then... 760517;1405673763;mircea_popescu;Madeline link to your prev work ? 760518;1405673804;pankkake;I wasn't aware of any promise to make the price public 760519;1405673909;Madeline;http://vidble.com/album/dUG1p0JH 760520;1405673910;assbot;Vidble 760521;1405673958;Madeline;http://i.imgur.com/yaC1lNR.jpg 760522;1405673993;mircea_popescu;Madeline got anything where you're a) nude and b) it's not a grainy 320x200 px ? 760523;1405674126;mrX_;I would be surprised if they made the price public any time soon 760524;1405674136;mircea_popescu;mrX_ whyssat ? 760525;1405674167;mrX_;Typical government 760526;1405674188;mrX_;Only releasing things when forced 760527;1405674214;pankkake;but that's what the FOIA requests are for right? 760528;1405674353;Madeline;Well, I just started getting naked on the internet in the last 48 hours, sooooo... not yet! BUUUUT... I'm ready to break out the DSLR and bestow upon you the gifts of my HD nakedness. 760529;1405674379;BigBitz;Hmm. 760530;1405674383;BigBitz;when did we become -camwhores, mircea_popescu? 760531;1405674421;mircea_popescu;!up Madeline 760532;1405674450;mircea_popescu;Madeline aite, put 6bb91297 on your tits and shoot it then. here's your model : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684 and mind that if you don't match her you're not getting paid. 760533;1405674451;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 760534;1405674465;mircea_popescu;BigBitz nothin' wrong with a bit o' fresh tit is there. 760535;1405674483;BigBitz;There is not..... there certainly is not. 760536;1405674493;mrX_;I suppose. I'll give government credit if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they deny it as privileged financial information. 760537;1405674545;mircea_popescu;mrX_ as what ? 760538;1405674553;pankkake;Madeline: related to your previous questions about gribble, registering and completing the task will likely get you a trust rating 760539;1405674570;punkman1;did any other girls show their face or just saffron? 760540;1405674578;pankkake;like that: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=sexy_saffron&sign=ANY&type=RECV 760541;1405674578;assbot;Rating Details for User 'sexy_saffron' 760542;1405674584;mircea_popescu;punkman1 working to improve the qualityt of camwhork 760543;1405674588;punkman1;bunch of wannabes 760544;1405674612;pankkake;since it was posted on reddit where many don't, it's not surprising 760545;1405674625;pankkake;(and don't do that for a living either) 760546;1405674626;mircea_popescu;buncha wannabes 760547;1405674637;mircea_popescu;pankkake saffron was off reddit 760548;1405674644;punkman1;plenty of pros on reddit I'd say 760549;1405674652;mircea_popescu;all kinds. 760550;1405674655;mircea_popescu;mixed bag of all time. 760551;1405674706;Madeline;i'll definitely register after I complete my picture challenge... this shit is really cool. 760552;1405674726;mircea_popescu;what do you do other than strippin' ? 760553;1405674781;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [-] 760554;1405674880;Madeline;Am I really "stripping?" I feel like that technically requires a linear timelines of clothing removal while dancing... I'm just starting straight from naked. 760555;1405674891;mircea_popescu;well w/e you'd call it. 760556;1405675044;punkman1;coupla girls saw me reading the pay-for-your-tits post, first question "do I have to show my face or just tits?" 760557;1405675055;mircea_popescu;yes. 760558;1405675060;BigBitz;do we have tits yet? 760559;1405675066;fluffypony;BigBitz: we have bitz 760560;1405675069;*;fluffypony makes a punny 760561;1405675072;BigBitz;:) 760562;1405675098;Madeline;Well, aside from being NAKED, I'm going to level up this cliche with COLLEGE STUDENT! Go team! 760563;1405675106;BigBitz;hmm we have a smart one then... using words like loinera and understanding them. 760564;1405675112;BigBitz;err linear. 760565;1405675117;mircea_popescu;Madeline lmao. 760566;1405675119;mircea_popescu;studying what ? 760567;1405675127;mircea_popescu;(social sciences) 760568;1405675128;punkman1;I told them "what you wanna be like the 100 other shy reddit girls, forget it" 760569;1405675134;BigBitz;( home ec ) 760570;1405675172;mircea_popescu;punkman1 word. 760571;1405675186;punkman1;maybe I should recruit next time I'm at the nude beach 760572;1405675214;BigBitz;bring Tits. 760573;1405675225;mircea_popescu;punkman1 good idea. 760574;1405675469;BigBitz;I am still seeing no tits... ping timeout... ffs. 760575;1405675551;mircea_popescu;!up yuckfou 760576;1405675709;mircea_popescu;!up madeline 760577;1405675727;mircea_popescu;madeline http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760554 760578;1405675728;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 760579;1405675763;madeline;sorry, my internet exploded and then put itself back together... 760580;1405675848;BigBitz;So... Tits then? 760581;1405675928;madeline;tits are coming... I've been busy answering questions about my LIFE to internet strangers because i missed the school house rock episode about not doing that. 760582;1405675942;mircea_popescu;oic. 760583;1405675961;mircea_popescu;we're all internet famous here, so no strangers. 760584;1405676088;BigBitz;I'm not famous. 760585;1405676104;mircea_popescu;well except you. 760586;1405676145;punkman1;everyone gets a minute of fame on the internets 760587;1405676231;punkman1;story time: I was at this remote beach camping with a dozen other people. Family shows up one morning via boat and sets up tents nearby. After a few hours Old Man approaches us and is like "hey guys can you put away all the dongs, we got kids here" while not being able to take his eyes off all the perky titties splashing in the water. 760588;1405676259;mircea_popescu;lol 760589;1405676275;mircea_popescu;sooo... "hpow about you park your kids somewhere els then" ? 760590;1405676312;punkman1;they had unpacked two boatfuls of crap already, too much work 760591;1405676359;BigBitz;So the way I read that is you were running around with your dong out and other guys had their dongs out. 760592;1405676365;punkman1;sure 760593;1405676393;punkman1;are you scared of dongs BigBitz? 760594;1405676405;BigBitz;No bro. 760595;1405676424;mircea_popescu;well he's not famous, so... 760596;1405676553;pankkake;to my French ears, your nick sounds like big ding dong 760597;1405676686;punkman1;I just don't get this whole "my kid will be scarred for life if he lays eyes upon some genitals" 760598;1405676697;mircea_popescu;anyway, worst part of remote camping with a dozen other people 760599;1405676703;mircea_popescu;is that one of those people will be late 760600;1405676709;mircea_popescu;and everyone will have forgotten the pee tests 760601;1405676715;mircea_popescu;and hysteria. 760602;1405676717;punkman1;lol 760603;1405676744;BigBitz;do we have tits yet? 760604;1405676751;mircea_popescu;dude what's your urgency 760605;1405676764;BigBitz;Boredom? 760606;1405676770;BigBitz;Expectance? 760607;1405676771;mircea_popescu;tits are on bitbet. 760608;1405676789;BigBitz;Trying to distract myself from my real work. 760609;1405676800;punkman1;need tits to take mind off silk road auction bitbet 760610;1405676806;mircea_popescu;must suck not to be famous and having to work 760611;1405677545;mircea_popescu;!up madeline 760612;1405677707;moiety;morning all http://vimeo.com/93400363 760613;1405677708;assbot;Puzzles for Postmen on Vimeo 760614;1405677715;moiety;!up RedStallion 760615;1405678084;fluffypony;moiety! you're alive! 760616;1405678174;moiety;fluffypony: I am! I have been, i just wasnt very well so i was reading logs more. How are you? 760617;1405678187;fluffypony;I'm ok 760618;1405678191;fluffypony;how is the sex weeks flat? 760619;1405678250;moiety;lovely! I got some plants because they were half dying and they've perked up :D how's the flash drive? do you use the keyring? 760620;1405678266;madeline;almost done 760621;1405678385;moiety;i've had a ploshay-esque face recently, had a tooth out and took a reaction. hamster-look was inescapable 760622;1405678428;pankkake;:D 760623;1405678474;fluffypony;moiety: I haven't used the key ring, but flash drive is awesome - thank you :) 760624;1405679132;moiety;yvw fluffypony 760625;1405679135;moiety;hi Vexual 760626;1405679145;Vexual;hi 760627;1405679155;moiety;how's things? 760628;1405679195;Vexual;not too shabby 760629;1405679272;Vexual;did you set up shop? 760630;1405679460;Vexual;!up madeline 760631;1405679468;madeline;okay i have finished! 760632;1405679473;madeline;TITS ARE READY 760633;1405679553;moiety;Vexual: i'm still looking at materials, had too much else on 760634;1405679565;moiety;yay good stuff madeline :] 760635;1405679623;madeline;sooo... what do I do next 760636;1405679644;madeline;is there a countdown... a parade... 760637;1405679646;fluffypony;you upload it and post the link here 760638;1405679674;madeline;but i wanted a parade first 760639;1405679703;moiety;o rest assured we're parading 760640;1405679708;cazalla;looks like i put mario kart down at the right time 760641;1405679746;madeline;http://vidble.com/oGYGiuvbKu.jpg 760642;1405679780;mircea_popescu;lol nuts. 760643;1405679784;mircea_popescu;madeline your bitcoin address ? 760644;1405679825;cazalla;ah fuck 760645;1405679830;madeline;1GhyE6ec2iWzNbZrLnDCM1UJZcWZwAmMnp 760646;1405679838;cazalla;my old school teacher was on MH17 760647;1405679842;cazalla;http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2426898/kanahooka-couple-among-those-lost-on-mh17-flight/?cs=298 760648;1405679844;assbot;Kanahooka couple among those lost on MH17 flight | Illawarra Mercury 760649;1405679867;mircea_popescu;enjoy. 760650;1405679908;madeline;thanks dad 760651;1405679914;BigBitz;damn, cazalla :( 760652;1405679940;cazalla;yeah :\ I had him in primary school, like year 4 or 5 760653;1405679956;BigBitz;Awful news. :( 760654;1405679962;moiety;sorry to hear cazalla, it's really tragic 760655;1405679967;cazalla;ah i don't really care 760656;1405679989;moiety;i didn't know anyone on the flight and i kinda do 760657;1405679990;BigBitz;why 6bb9 1297 or whatever? 760658;1405680017;pankkake;BigBitz: this was answered before, but maybe you can guess 760659;1405680032;pankkake;tip: it might depend on your IRC client settings 760660;1405680042;BigBitz;Hmm. 760661;1405680091;BigBitz;No idea, pankkake. 760662;1405680181;pankkake;it's the random id assigned by webchat, you see it in the join line for example 760663;1405680269;madeline;can i ask a question, or do I have to leave now that i've given up the goods? 760664;1405680296;cazalla;stay 760665;1405680333;fluffypony;you don't have to ask to ask, just ask :) 760666;1405680343;chetty;make an account, hang around :) 760667;1405680345;Vexual;hey she asked 760668;1405680365;pankkake;you're more than welcome to stay - and register 760669;1405680552;madeline;well, it's more than one question actually... how did you all find each other? do you any of you each other in real life? what is the purpose of this particular chat group? how many people are pantsless, but still wearing socks right now? 760670;1405680597;chetty;lo, nice questions 760671;1405680657;madeline;*do any of you know each other in real life? 760672;1405680669;pankkake;some do 760673;1405680695;madeline;i ez rel gooodz at zee tiepeen 760674;1405680748;pankkake;I'm at work and fully clothed, thank god for the air conditioning though 760675;1405680789;fluffypony;I've gotten semi-sober with xmj at the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn, Estonia 760676;1405680792;dub;pants and two pair socks here 760677;1405680802;Vexual;shit it's hotter there than here pankakke 760678;1405680804;dub;fucking 3c outside 760679;1405680833;pankkake;http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/ 760680;1405680834;assbot;Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake 760681;1405680841;chetty;many of the people here have met at various conf. 760682;1405680877;madeline;pankkake: what area of the planet are in the vicinity of? 760683;1405680903;madeline;because it's the middle of the night where i am... so i assume you're at least half a planet away 760684;1405680912;pankkake;I'm in France 760685;1405680919;pankkake;unrelated: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001512.html 760686;1405680919;assbot;Financial Cryptography: Casebook for a disaster: google's BebaPay and why it is wrong, wrong, wrong 760687;1405680985;Vexual;where are you from madeline? 760688;1405681077;mircea_popescu;madeline http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ start there 760689;1405681078;assbot;The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 760690;1405681079;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/JiAzPyb.gif - how to park 760691;1405681161;mircea_popescu;lol fluffypony 760692;1405681239;madeline;california 760693;1405681272;Vexual;i was guessing hawaii, but i guess im just being pedantic 760694;1405681334;chetty;!up madeline 760695;1405681438;madeline;i wish i was in Hawaii 760696;1405681662;moiety;https://soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service 760697;1405681662;assbot;Comcastic service disconnection by ryan.block on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 760698;1405682001;madeline;so most of you work on bitcoin related endeavors? 760699;1405682028;mircea_popescu;an' that's all for me. laters. 760700;1405682080;pankkake;http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ 760701;1405682081;assbot;Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal 760702;1405682198;Vexual;fucking giuliani 760703;1405682256;pankkake;madeline: some do, I don't know about most 760704;1405682521;madeline;that's a great article, or "reflection" rather... thanks for sharing 760705;1405682547;kakobrekla;while reddit "is this a good thing ??" 760706;1405682549;kakobrekla;lel 760707;1405682789;pankkake;both reddit and bitcointalk though regulation will be here to help them 760708;1405682823;pankkake;thought 760709;1405682862;pankkake;for months it was all about some "JOBS" act 760710;1405682881;pankkake;what do they think, that the bitcoin securities exchange would be allowed as is? 760711;1405683146;pankkake;!up madeline 760712;1405683146;dub;so don't transact wiht americans? 760713;1405683162;Vexual;they'll learn 760714;1405683168;dub;vorhees is tool and what the fuck i swrong with that font? 760715;1405683206;Vexual;he writes well 760716;1405683224;pankkake;http://moneyandstate.com/role-bitcoin-money/ this is a good intro to bitcoin actually 760717;1405683225;assbot;The Role of Bitcoin as Money - Money and State 760718;1405683253;dub;he writes like an entitled teenager 760719;1405683524;dub;feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo 760720;1405683616;Vexual;thats the worst analogy ever; ther is not a single mystery in it 760721;1405683735;kakobrekla;lol 760722;1405683751;chetty; so don't transact wiht americans?//thats about the size of it 760723;1405683799;dub;im srsly not seeing much downside here 760724;1405683833;dub;they are increasingly irrelevant and, god willing, wont be around much longer anyway 760725;1405683862;chetty;but they splash a lot going down 760726;1405684058;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo link updated ;) 760727;1405685700;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 197 @ 0.00267 = 0.526 BTC [-] {2} 760728;1405685805;Vexual;hey tat 760729;1405685865;Vexual;went you once capitalised? 760730;1405685878;thickasthieves;yeah i decided to see if it was case-sens 760731;1405685880;thickasthieves;it's not 760732;1405685911;thickasthieves;hehe /r/buttcoin now has "sponsored by Butterfly Labs" on it 760733;1405685988;fluffypony;lol 760734;1405686116;thickasthieves;http://moneyandstate.com/reflections-right-privacy-response-nydfs-bitcoin-proposal/ 760735;1405686117;assbot;Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal 760736;1405686155;thickasthieves;sry if linked already, havent read yesterday's log yet 760737;1405686170;Vexual;pankakke linked that not half an hour ago 760738;1405686193;thickasthieves;fukn florida electricity was all spotty yesterday so i got tired of re-authing over and over 760739;1405686194;pankkake;I was surprised it wasn't posted earlier though 760740;1405686241;thickasthieves;i was hoping mp would write something up on the matter 760741;1405686392;chetty;thickasthieves, its just more muricans digging their own grave 760742;1405686472;thickasthieves;maybe 760743;1405686500;Vexual;learning 760744;1405686648;thickasthieves;processing 760745;1405687266;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxuHQPMD7AE 760746;1405688645;thickasthieves;http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/07/17/331737485/young-scientists-say-theyre-sexually-abused-in-the-field 760747;1405688645;assbot;Young Scientists Say They're Sexually Abused In The Field : Shots - Health News : NPR 760748;1405688886;Vexual;fucking giuliani 760749;1405688954;thickasthieves;Can Rudy Giuliani Rescue Uber? The ridesharing app’s drivers have variously been accused of rape, kidnapping, and abuse. Now it’s bringing in the former New York City mayor to audit its background check process. 760750;1405688989;Vexual;shit, the world really is cukoo 760751;1405689183;jurov;they shoud start to abduct kids, too 760752;1405689198;jurov;and public indecencies 760753;1405689199;pankkake;he said kidnapping 760754;1405689212;jurov;but afaik not children 760755;1405689216;jurov;yet 760756;1405689229;pankkake;kid 760757;1405689232;pankkake;napping 760758;1405689237;pankkake;no? 760759;1405689249;Vexual;what about the state licensed taxi drivers? 760760;1405689269;pankkake;they're Regulated, thus can do no wrong 760761;1405689278;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.33142557 BTC. Current weight: 66,299. 760762;1405689325;jurov;pankkake exactly. 760763;1405689329;chetty;didn't you guys know, unregulated = evil 760764;1405689515;thickasthieves;is there any good writing on why money laundering shouldnt be illegal or similar ideas? 760765;1405689743;chetty;should be a good topic with all the good(bad) examples of what goes wrong with bad law, everything from prohibition to the drug war 760766;1405689815;chetty;and the gubermint laments about the poor 'unbanked' while banks get harder and harder ... 760767;1405689837;thickasthieves;harder? 760768;1405689859;thickasthieves;(unclear what you meant) 760769;1405689889;pankkake;perhaps they don't like the unbanked because they don't like cash 760770;1405689893;chetty;well all the kyc and aml rules make it harder for people to get 'banked' (not saying thats a bad thing) 760771;1405690010;thickasthieves;oic 760772;1405690020;thickasthieves;it is a bad thing 760773;1405690055;thickasthieves;money should be more private 760774;1405690108;chetty;http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/new-underground-economy 760775;1405690108;assbot;New Underground Economy | Cato Institute 760776;1405690137;thickasthieves;i'd like to also see some stats on organized crime and terrorism stopped thanks to AML 760777;1405690145;thickasthieves;Know Your Terroist 760778;1405690245;chetty;much of the real burden of these compliance costs will fall on those least able to afford it, while those intent on finding their way around it will do so. 760779;1405690309;chetty;that statement strikes me as the real crux of the issue 760780;1405690338;thickasthieves;http://www.banktech.com/compliance/aml-and-ofac-compliance-straining-banksand-8217-budgets-study-finds/d/d-id/1296474? 760781;1405690341;assbot;AML and OFAC Compliance Straining Banks’ Budgets, Study Finds | Bank Systems & Technology 760782;1405690361;pankkake;it's just about taxes 760783;1405690383;chetty;taxes and control 760784;1405690384;Vexual;tru dat 760785;1405690398;thickasthieves;maybe they should simplify taxes 760786;1405690412;thickasthieves;just pay a fukn citizenship monthly fee or some shit 760787;1405690431;Vexual;your everyday highsteeet banj is sgit at tax stuff 760788;1405690448;chetty;too many people making too much money out of current system 760789;1405690596;pankkake;if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay 760790;1405690609;pankkake;I can tell you most Frenchies have no idea they pay >50% a year, yet do 760791;1405690628;thickasthieves;"Some might argue that developing economies cannot afford to be too selective about the sources of capital they attract. But postponing action is dangerous. The more it is deferred, the more entrenched organised crime can become." This is from a pro-AML article, but it's interesting if you take it out of context to mean any entity (incl government) 760792;1405690716;Vexual;i just saw that bhangladesi banker on bloberg today 760793;1405690721;thickasthieves;http://www.irs.gov/uac/Statistical-Data-Money-Laundering-&-Bank-Secrecy-Act-(BSA) 760794;1405690721;assbot;Statistical Data - Money Laundering & Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) 760795;1405690752;Vexual;his stats were impeccible and he accepted 0 bullshit 760796;1405690771;thickasthieves;So AML gets 800 criminals per year and about 6 years in prison ea 760797;1405690772;thickasthieves;lol 760798;1405690869;Vexual;bhangladesh waterfront is buy 760799;1405690896;thickasthieves;A couple more reports for anyone interested: 760800;1405690898;thickasthieves;http://www.verisconsulting.com/documents/brochures/the%20global%20cost%20of%20anti-money%20laundering%20compliance.pdf 760801;1405690903;thickasthieves;https://www.kpmg.com/Global/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/global-anti-money-laundering-survey/Documents/global-anti-money-laundering-survey-v3.pdf 760802;1405690940;thickasthieves;seems the industry is mostly focusing on automating 760803;1405690994;thickasthieves;costs rising 50% per year to comply 760804;1405691160;thickasthieves;"Despite increased investment in transaction monitoring systems, satisfaction has declined. Although transaction monitoring systems continue to represent the greatest area of AML spending, it appears that regulatory requirements are still outpacing system improvements" 760805;1405691161;Vexual;too long, reasonable steps is all you need 760806;1405691238;chetty;all that compliance simply drives more and more into underground economy 760807;1405691244;thickasthieves;"Seventy percent of respondents stated that they had received a regulatory visit which focused on KYC" 760808;1405691556;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 333 @ 0.00267 = 0.8891 BTC [-] 760809;1405691678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00265 = 1.325 BTC [-] 760810;1405691764;thickasthieves;hmm will NFLX bleed more today, or Monday after earnings report? 760811;1405691781;thickasthieves;almost time to cover this short 760812;1405692290;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEyujOSEexM 760813;1405692869;pankkake;http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/18/071232 760814;1405692870;assbot;SoylentNews | Fake TSA Screener Infiltrates SFO Checkpoints, Gropes Women 760815;1405693053;Vexual;i wonder how many pocket knices he stole 760816;1405693204;thickasthieves;logs were worth it 760817;1405693310;Vexual;all those brie wheels saved 760818;1405693492;thickasthieves;Save The Wheels 760819;1405693493;jurov;http://sw.gurroa.cz/pic/mys-nadro.jpg 760820;1405693527;thickasthieves;surprise, it's a man boob! 760821;1405694247;fluffypony;https://www.virusbtn.com/virusbulletin/archive/2014/07/vb201407-Mayhem 760822;1405694249;assbot;Virus Bulletin : Mayhem a hidden threat for *nix web servers 760823;1405694267;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgOtitc7aU patiently awaiting the bitcoin album 760824;1405694298;thickasthieves;Vexual, you heard the new Freddie Gibbs? 760825;1405694306;Vexual;no, link it 760826;1405694325;thickasthieves;fukn instant cl;assic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj39POBr-OU 760827;1405694325;assbot;Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Shitsville (Official) - Piata - YouTube 760828;1405694388;thickasthieves;there're several cool songs on it 760829;1405694446;thickasthieves;i got the vinyl 760830;1405694453;Vexual;noice 760831;1405694481;pankkake;gyeah nigga, shit's real 760832;1405694489;Vexual;lol 760833;1405694501;Vexual;bb gonna email snoop now tho 760834;1405694583;Vexual;wax on drone 760835;1405694722;thickasthieves;Gais! Storj IPO today! 760836;1405694741;thickasthieves;watch people lose their bitcoins live: http://storj.io/crowdsale 760837;1405694742;assbot;Storj - The Crowdsale 760838;1405694783;Vexual;what is that? 760839;1405694805;thickasthieves;crowd storage scheme using cryptcoin tech 760840;1405694824;Vexual;le ponzo? 760841;1405694845;thickasthieves;basically you buy credits with bitcoin, then in a month the price for credits plummets when people realize how expensive it is in bitcoin 760842;1405694849;Vexual;or blatant theft? 760843;1405694884;Vexual;to what sipposed end? 760844;1405694891;thickasthieves;neither, they are shorting their credit value 760845;1405694905;Vexual;ghash w/o the mining? 760846;1405694911;thickasthieves;lol 760847;1405694913;thickasthieves;sure 760848;1405695042;pankkake;so it's another maidsafe? 760849;1405695079;pankkake;it is :/ 760850;1405695120;Vexual;selling somet you can;t probide is theft where im from 760851;1405695230;thickasthieves;i'm not sure they wont provide, but they obv have their priorities set to getting dat bitcoin now 760852;1405695257;thickasthieves;oh btw, did i mention developers are keeping half the credits for themselves too? 760853;1405695317;thickasthieves;"Just three days after opening for business, Seattle's only weed retailer, Cannabis City, announced that its entire inventory had sold out." 760854;1405695349;thickasthieves;"In a legal market, retail producers and sellers should possess an advantage over the black market," Paul Armentano, deputy director of NORML, said in an email. "They should not be placed at a disadvantage because of the need to comply with unnecessary regulations or egregious taxation." 760855;1405695381;FabianB;$status 760856;1405695384;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 760857;1405695384;assbot;401 Authorization Required 760858;1405695654;thickasthieves;RIP MPEx, we hardly knew ye 760859;1405695654;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 760860;1405695710;pankkake;but but http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/ 760861;1405695710;assbot;BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 6.04 B (44%) on No | closing in 3 months 4 weeks | weight: 33`064 (100`000 to 1) 760862;1405695731;thickasthieves;should say MPEx instead 760863;1405695954;FabianB;so should i move over to havelock? ;) 760864;1405696223;thickasthieves;http://www.pfhub.com/new-virtual-currency-inncoin-is-backed-by-gold-and-ready-to-take-down-bitcoin-950/ 760865;1405696224;assbot;New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin 760866;1405696249;Vexual;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU 760867;1405696281;Vexual;bitcoin is backed by computers 760868;1405696334;chetty;Mpex will be back ... 760869;1405696334;thickasthieves;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/18/new-czech-virtual-currency-launched/?mod=MarketsMain 760870;1405696335;assbot;Czech Republic Gets Its Own Virtual Currency - MoneyBeat - WSJ 760871;1405696340;thickasthieves;auroracoin 2.0 760872;1405696357;thickasthieves;why WSJ gives these scams attention, no idea 760873;1405696374;chetty;desperate for news? 760874;1405696380;pankkake;there have been many auroracoins 760875;1405696382;Vexual;bitcoin prolly had huge volume today and noone knows 760876;1405696384;thickasthieves;'The central bank said the name of the virtual currency resembles the English translation of Česká koruna, the official Czech currency, and therefore was “unfortunate and misleading.”' 760877;1405696414;thickasthieves;Czech Central Bank sounds quite timid 760878;1405696438;thickasthieves;oh you are tricking people by creating a deceptive currency? that's unfortunate 760879;1405696483;Vexual;were you tricked into atrting altcoin? 760880;1405696493;Vexual;*starting 760881;1405696512;thickasthieves;i was incited at least 760882;1405696560;Vexual;tricking is different 760883;1405696752;thickasthieves;i wrote to the WSJ author to explain that he is shilling 760884;1405697028;Vexual;at least he's not spammin the chan with hewtube 760885;1405697252;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33M7F2H.txt ) 760886;1405697252;pankkake;!b 2 760887;1405697270;Vexual;good bash sir 760888;1405697360;mircea_popescu;ok so re mpex : the best news, really. the whole shebang is deployed and actually works, as best as anyone can determine. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases which i expect to pass 100%. bar some improbable unforeseenness, mpex should be back this weekend. 760889;1405697425;pankkake;so you said twice it would take a week, instead of saying it would take two weeks. smart 760890;1405697456;pankkake;(actually not really how it happened, but I tried) 760891;1405697478;mircea_popescu;i k r ? 760892;1405697522;mircea_popescu;anyway, the gpg blob from the engineer in charge was so long this morning i thought at first he's gonna kill himself and is sending me his life story. 760893;1405697639;FabianB;$proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." 760894;1405697640;empyex;FabianB: Temporarily saved. 760895;1405697641;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 760896;1405697823;thickasthieves;is it weird to have no website at all when exchange is down? 760897;1405697905;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves like trilema ? 760898;1405697912;mircea_popescu;FabianB o hey nice 760899;1405697921;thickasthieves;mpex.co hasnt loaded for a while now 760900;1405697922;mircea_popescu;$proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." 760901;1405697924;empyex;mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved. 760902;1405697925;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 760903;1405697960;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves it wasn't really ever intended to do much as "the website" 760904;1405697984;thickasthieves;but there's other info there that is useful 760905;1405698002;Vexual;perhaps mpes is getting alibaba 760906;1405698023;thickasthieves;FAQ, last price, contact, pricing, etc 760907;1405698088;thickasthieves;http://web.archive.org/web/20140708024022/http://mpex.co/ 760908;1405698089;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 760909;1405698113;Vexual;smpoe auddenlt buys 10 everything 760910;1405698128;mircea_popescu;Vexual including urmom ? 760911;1405698138;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves well yeah. 760912;1405698151;Vexual;alibaba is some billions 760913;1405698279;thickasthieves;i guess i'm just saying it's maybe a lil ghetto to have no website for days 760914;1405698301;Vexual;ghettos the formulae 760915;1405698324;mircea_popescu;dub: he writes like an entitled teenager. feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo << yeah well. it's hard dood. 760916;1405698342;thickasthieves;but i also used to sell brochures and websites for a living, sooooo.... 760917;1405698360;mircea_popescu;i'm not sure ghetto is the word. 760918;1405698364;mircea_popescu;anticonsumer fo sho. 760919;1405698368;thickasthieves;unprofessional 760920;1405698392;Vexual;yeah thats kinda oppositely 760921;1405698396;mircea_popescu;only if your profession is seo expert. 760922;1405698493;thickasthieves;google delisted you 760923;1405698505;Vexual;fee going up? 760924;1405698508;thickasthieves;;;google mpex 760925;1405698509;gribble;Midwest Photo Exchange Home page: ; Midwest Photo Exchange MPEX Learning Studio: ; MPEx - Bitcoin: 760926;1405698538;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves yeah dude, google is like, important. everywhere. 760927;1405698550;thickasthieves;well... 760928;1405698563;mircea_popescu;i'm sitting here building a system that exists to beat into submission the us congress and it all depends on whether google delists me or not. 760929;1405698570;mircea_popescu;twitter is a major blow. that sorta thing. 760930;1405698574;mircea_popescu;this make any fucking sense to you ? 760931;1405698592;thickasthieves;hey you can take it to extremes to bat it away if you like 760932;1405698599;thickasthieves;just syain 760933;1405698612;mircea_popescu;point is, if mpex isn';t fine outside of everything that currently exists on the web, mpex isn't fine 760934;1405698618;mircea_popescu;because google is going a-fucking-way. 760935;1405698625;mircea_popescu;itcant be a dependency 760936;1405698665;thickasthieves;maybe you should block google spiders 760937;1405698675;thickasthieves;let's all do it 760938;1405698682;thickasthieves;this wil help the cause 760939;1405698741;Vexual;;;google 0-0 760940;1405698741;gribble;Dividing by Zero - Math is Fun: ; Math Forum: Ask Dr. Math FAQ: Zero to Zero Power: ; Zero to the Zero Power -- Math Fun Facts: 760941;1405698798;Vexual;google dont know shit 760942;1405698799;mircea_popescu;maybe just not care you know ? 760943;1405698838;Vexual;;;google regex 760944;1405698839;gribble;Regular expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: ; RegExr: Learn, Build, & Test RegEx: 760945;1405698884;mircea_popescu;is it ghetto and unprofessional to not care what the feminists have to say ? 760946;1405698906;mircea_popescu;because i suspect maybe this conceptual harness works more like a control tool directed towards the user 760947;1405698921;mircea_popescu;than what language is fucking intended to be (a control tool directed towards the environment) 760948;1405698968;thickasthieves;well i agree with you in that too much weight is being attributed to this concern 760949;1405698975;thickasthieves;i just disagree that it's all or nothing 760950;1405699000;thickasthieves;shit man, it's ok to have your website up when your exchange is down 760951;1405699002;thickasthieves;all i'm sayin 760952;1405699017;mircea_popescu;lol 760953;1405699018;thickasthieves;people may even prfer it 760954;1405699032;mircea_popescu;trilema should be good enuf 760955;1405699051;thickasthieves;well everything should be the way that disrupts mp the least 760956;1405699104;mircea_popescu;^ 760957;1405699146;mircea_popescu;pankkake: if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay << this lol. 760958;1405699181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78950352 BTC to 12`338 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 760959;1405699210;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760791 << the funny thing there, of course, is that "organised crime" simply means "any power structure that's not us". 760960;1405699211;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 760961;1405699215;mircea_popescu;seems quite... organised crime-y to me. 760962;1405699303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.29973600 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2200 satoshi per share 760963;1405699325;thickasthieves;hypocrisy as an indicator for a dying system 760964;1405699339;mircea_popescu;assbot: New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin <<< one a fucking week by now ? 760965;1405699341;Vexual;prta ghash luck? 760966;1405699343;mthreat;"organized crime" isn't usually very organized 760967;1405699384;thickasthieves;just like how fiat arguments against bitcoin taste hypocrtical on examination 760968;1405699384;mircea_popescu;mthreat actually organised crime isn't usually very well documented. 760969;1405699421;mircea_popescu;chetty: desperate for news? << no, desperate for "alternatives". and they'd better fucking find some, because I will fuck up with their careers. 760970;1405699548;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 5.84550366 BTC to 29`438 shares, 19857 satoshi per share 760971;1405699554;thickasthieves;http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/18/breaking-dell-now-accepts-bitcoin/ 760972;1405699555;assbot;Breaking: Dell Now Accepts Bitcoin - Coin Fire 760973;1405699562;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1l4r0IcAArmGj.jpg 760974;1405699569;thickasthieves;this coinfire guy is getting teh scoppz 760975;1405699575;thickasthieves;scoopz 760976;1405699593;mircea_popescu;ask him over ? 760977;1405699749;thickasthieves;https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/490166181157154816 760978;1405699769;mircea_popescu;nice. 760979;1405699773;mircea_popescu;mebbe webirc link too ? 760980;1405699776;thickasthieves;it sounds official cuz i said official 760981;1405699790;mircea_popescu;you know how to work the ropes! 760982;1405699912;thickasthieves;k i left link in his blog 760983;1405699952;thickasthieves;love how all the dying internet boom businesses are embracing bitcoin 760984;1405699952;mircea_popescu;sweet. 760985;1405699959;thickasthieves;who the fuck buys dell 760986;1405699992;mircea_popescu;actually i dont think i ever bought a diff rackable server. 760987;1405700022;thickasthieves;ah so that's their niche? 760988;1405700028;mircea_popescu;pretty much yes 760989;1405700164;pankkake;google is very fast to update websites, it will also come back fast 760990;1405700188;pankkake;quick* 760991;1405700192;pankkake;I really can't write lately 760992;1405700415;mthreat;not sure i'd call it a niche 760993;1405700433;Vexual;ptoly tagged experimental 760994;1405700523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 310 @ 0.00272 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {2} 760995;1405700615;pankkake;wow, maybe I'll buy a Dell U3011 after all :) 760996;1405700620;pankkake;unless it's US only 760997;1405700635;Vexual;dropbox 760998;1405700671;Vexual;yjeure cheaap 760999;1405700687;Vexual;*theey're cheap 761000;1405700953;pankkake;http://www.movetoaustin.io/ 761001;1405700953;assbot;MovetoAustin 761002;1405700993;pankkake;#13 pic of only girls. eheh 761003;1405701112;BigBitz;Austin or NYC. That's not a hard toss up. 761004;1405701240;thickasthieves;dell also offering alienware discounts for btc 761005;1405701253;*;asciilifeform waits for shortwave-mpex 761006;1405701361;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sadly it seems mpex is one of those things still requiring a fortress. 761007;1405701374;thickasthieves;lol the WSJ writer wrote back to me "thanks for your thoughts" 761008;1405701378;thickasthieves;that's irt 761009;1405701380;thickasthieves;it 761010;1405701388;asciilifeform;let's fortress with antennae? 761011;1405701396;thickasthieves;lowercase n all 761012;1405701439;fluffypony;thickasthieves: it's because you changed your nick to all lower-case 761013;1405701442;fluffypony;poetic justice. 761014;1405701448;pankkake;mpex need a trade fortress? 761015;1405701449;thickasthieves;you are what you eat 761016;1405701506;fluffypony;hah hah 761017;1405701622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 188 @ 0.00272998 = 0.5132 BTC [-] 761018;1405701660;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves he's being pro. 761019;1405701727;thickasthieves;Coinfire accepted invite 761020;1405701732;thickasthieves;"I'm in." 761021;1405701746;fluffypony;!up CoinFire 761022;1405701769;thickasthieves;g'day Coinfire 761023;1405701770;CoinFire;Thanks fluffypony Was working on the WoT stuff but likely going to have to finish it a bit later ;) 761024;1405701776;CoinFire;Howdy thickasthieves 761025;1405701807;thickasthieves;you seem to be on top of things, been reading since the SR auction 761026;1405701808;CoinFire;Fighting with my MBP at the moment which is refusing to charge LOL. 761027;1405701821;pankkake;replace the battery! oh, wait :p 761028;1405701826;CoinFire;Thanks! Certainly trying to be on top of everything at all times, lots of Google alerts, etc etc 761029;1405701851;CoinFire;LOL Exactly pankkake - Thankfully it is under warranty for a little while longer. 761030;1405701880;thickasthieves;i liked the coinjelly stuff, i noticed they wanted to talk privately, did anything come of that? 761031;1405701917;thickasthieves;(i still think your blog needs a new body font btw) 761032;1405701931;CoinFire;They've sent me some stuff and I've been waiting further confirmation from the insurance company. We will see how it plays out and if I learn more I will most certainly be updating things and posting a new entry for everyone :) 761033;1405701939;thickasthieves;cool 761034;1405701969;CoinFire;I'll agree thickasthieves on the font statement. I am likely going to try and get that changed this week. Another thing on the list of things lol. I find it hard to read on my iPad so it has to change :) 761035;1405701980;CoinFire;Any fonts you would rather see? 761036;1405702000;fluffypony;Comic Sans 761037;1405702001;thickasthieves;yeah it's just too thin, well for google fonts, i recall Cabin being a good one 761038;1405702047;CoinFire;LOL fluffypony the doge community would enjoy that. 761039;1405702047;thickasthieves;eh maybe not 761040;1405702056;thickasthieves;Cabin maybe a lil better for print 761041;1405702057;fluffypony;Papyrus, then? 761042;1405702058;pankkake;"Raleway"? I don't have it, so that's why the website looks nice to me 761043;1405702062;thickasthieves;kina warbly on screen 761044;1405702079;thickasthieves;raleway is one of those graphic designer trendy fonts from a couple years ago 761045;1405702093;CoinFire;Do people still even use Papyrus? That was something I asked myself recently then I saw a hair salon had it as a giant window sticker and was just like UGH 761046;1405702098;fluffypony;hah hah 761047;1405702110;fluffypony;the only font worse than Comic Sans and Papyrus is...Curlz 761048;1405702114;CoinFire;Then literally two days later, a church. I just head to shake my head. 761049;1405702119;fluffypony;that font needs to be stabbed in the face 761050;1405702126;*;CoinFire agrees 761051;1405702132;mircea_popescu;hey there CoinFire 761052;1405702138;pankkake;actually I'm wrong, I have it through google fonts I guess. and yeah, disabling it it's much better, it's too thin 761053;1405702149;chetty;whatever happened to just over ride the site css with your own font? 761054;1405702163;pankkake;I'm a fan of just using the default browser font (just use "sans-serif"). assuming most platforms have one that is not ugly. 761055;1405702166;thickasthieves;Papyrus is Comic Sans for Yoga and Health places 761056;1405702173;fluffypony;chetty: Google Web Fonts, I'm a big fan 761057;1405702187;CoinFire;Howdy mircea_popescu 761058;1405702208;mircea_popescu;people saying you're like on top of the scoops. 761059;1405702232;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#760974 like. 761060;1405702232;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761061;1405702300;CoinFire;LOL That is awesome. Certainly trying to be all over them. Granted that involves virtually no sleeping ever. 761062;1405702325;fluffypony;you should hire a leggy blonde assistant 761063;1405702327;thickasthieves;CoinFire we have a blog feed at http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ if you wanna learn more about us, more resources are at bitcoin-assets.com, including logs, bash, wiki 761064;1405702328;assbot;Assets Assimilated 761065;1405702344;CoinFire;Checking it out thickasthieves! 761066;1405702357;CoinFire;I totally should fluffypony ;) 761067;1405702375;thickasthieves;it's a lot to read, but we generally take pride in not being reddites and slaying derpitude 761068;1405702415;CoinFire;I'll take it!! 761069;1405702456;CoinFire;I will be sure to get my keys and everything worked out this week as well :) Been working on a lot of stuff. It seems it never ends. 761070;1405702517;chetty;if it ends we will all be bored 761071;1405702518;thickasthieves;cool cool 761072;1405702596;CoinFire;HAHAHAHA So true chetty. So very true. 761073;1405702773;kakobrekla;at some point ill +m the chan so we can all take a break. 761074;1405702800;fluffypony;it is +m already...? 761075;1405702809;kakobrekla;sahtup you are ruining the joke. 761076;1405702811;mircea_popescu;no vitramins in your cereal huh 761077;1405702821;fluffypony;lol 761078;1405702838;mircea_popescu;!up just_mike 761079;1405702849;mircea_popescu;o look, mike_c bought the just dice brand and merged. 761080;1405702859;kakobrekla;provably fail microphone? 761081;1405702864;kakobrekla;eh 761082;1405702865;kakobrekla;fair 761083;1405702885;mircea_popescu;/nick just_in_bieber 761084;1405702900;kakobrekla;justin_time and justin_case 761085;1405702912;mircea_popescu;sir Case the Just 761086;1405702933;thickasthieves;cumin_side 761087;1405702954;kakobrekla;i guess if i make my surname justin, then i can have case and time for kids. 761088;1405702962;mircea_popescu;indian cooking pronz. "oya baby, put it on the cumin side." 761089;1405702979;asciilifeform;'just_mice' << hypothetical future electric rodent shop 761090;1405703000;thickasthieves;just_ice 761091;1405703005;mircea_popescu;s/pronz/prawns 761092;1405703010;kakobrekla;and we are back to reddit lvl. 761093;1405703012;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: you can't do that unless you're also begging for a flight 761094;1405703031;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla no we're not. reddit doesn't do wordplay. 761095;1405703042;mircea_popescu;it does wordcancer. 761096;1405703053;kakobrekla;heh 761097;1405703116;thickasthieves;reminds me of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2013#322499 761098;1405703116;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761099;1405703133;thickasthieves;i wonder if any of our fake name businesses became real ones since 761100;1405703154;thickasthieves;yep 761101;1405703259;asciilifeform;'Just name a disease, he says, and we have a cure ready for it. ... The pills for AIDS look just like the pills for cancer look just like the pills for diabetes. I ask, So these things really arent invented? ... Of course theyre real, he says and plucks the first two bottles out of my hands. Theyre copyrighted. We have an inventory of almost fifteen thousand copyrighted names for pr 761102;1405703259;asciilifeform;oducts that are still in development, he says. And that includes you. ... Were a total concept marketing slash public relations organization, he says. Our job is to create the concept. You patent a drug. You copyright the name. As soon as someone else develops the product they come to us, sometimes by choice, sometimes not.' 761103;1405703293;thickasthieves;cointroduction really is a good for a dating site 761104;1405703294;asciilifeform;'I ask him, Why sometimes not? The way this works is we copyright every conceivable combination of words, Greek words, Latin, English, what-have-you. We get the legal rights to every conceivable word a pharmaceutical company might use to name a new product. For diabetes alone, we have an inventory of one hundred forty names, he says. He hands me stapled-together pages from out of his briefcase in his lap. 761105;1405703295;asciilifeform;GlucoCure, I read. InsulinEase. PancreAid. Hemazine. Glucodan. Growdenase.' 761106;1405703315;asciilifeform;(palahniuk's 'survivor'. http://www.altbook.ru/index.php/site/en_survivor_full/681) 761107;1405703316;assbot; - Survivor - Chuck Palahniuk. Read, download books - alternative book. 761108;1405703368;thickasthieves;ive read a few of Chuck's 761109;1405703375;thickasthieves;i liked Haunted most i think 761110;1405703473;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves no wai. cointroduction ?! 761111;1405703481;mircea_popescu;do they offer on-site cointraception ? 761112;1405703499;thickasthieves;well i didnt know it was actually a word 761113;1405703502;thickasthieves;and the word works 761114;1405703502;CoinFire;LOL 761115;1405703512;thickasthieves;;;ud cointroduction 761116;1405703514;gribble;Google found nothing. 761117;1405703518;mircea_popescu;it's horrible srsly. 761118;1405703528;thickasthieves;"simultaneous introduction of two or more agents or species" 761119;1405703539;mircea_popescu;about on par with toyota naming their prius replacement Toyota Pizda. 761120;1405703554;mthreat;cuntroduction 761121;1405703579;thickasthieves;!up Coinfire 761122;1405703600;mircea_popescu;mthreat cunt reduction ? 761123;1405703608;mthreat;it's a thing! 761124;1405703611;mircea_popescu;site sells alum powder 761125;1405703622;mircea_popescu;for you know... down there. 761126;1405703625;asciilifeform;now the interesting part. as i recall, the company in palahniuk's comedy actually exists... 761127;1405703643;CoinFire;Thanks ;) 761128;1405703656;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kinda poorly researched tho you know ? the 5mn domain names that were finally abandoned recently were a failed exercise in exactly this 761129;1405703666;mircea_popescu;140 won't cut it. they need like 8bn names for diabethes. 761130;1405703719;mircea_popescu;"The sporting press is awash in liberal themes these days: the "underrepresentation" of African-American head coaches in professional football (nobody seems to object to the astounding overrepresentation of African-American players); the terrible injustice of private golf clubs refusing to accept women as members (funny, it's not a problem if Lady Victory Fitness Centers exclude men); and of course the whole business o 761131;1405703719;mircea_popescu;f women's sports, the greatest affirmative action program in existence (a woman can win a gold medal at the Olympics despite a performance that might not even qualify her for the men's event---but despite her inferior performance she wins the same medal as the men's winner)." 761132;1405703726;asciilifeform;if i remember, these folks don't go the pure squatter route, but actually make contact with megacorps and their lead marketing monkeys 761133;1405703729;mircea_popescu;what is this guy, nuts ? who and why would want to see mixed gender sprint. 761134;1405703814;thickasthieves;itd be cool if it were competitive 761135;1405703852;mircea_popescu;there are very few fields where women / men competition doesn't look like a squirrel trying to fight a raccoon. 761136;1405703853;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: mocsny wasn't pushing for mixed footraces, so much as torturing some bozo who was obsessed with the 'injustice of exclusion' 761137;1405703868;mircea_popescu;those usually look like a raccoon trying to fight a truck. 761138;1405703889;asciilifeform;lol 761139;1405703899;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, he did have some issues this guy. http://pastebin.com/X7WtwLXV 761140;1405703899;assbot;Women from all races want to bang rich, successful guys. I find it merely curiou - Pastebin.com 761141;1405703910;mircea_popescu;consider, "sex robots so poor guys can have the same shit as rich guys" ?! 761142;1405703915;mircea_popescu;wtf is this, derplandia ? 761143;1405703934;chetty;munchcins vs the harlem globe trotters basketball anyone? 761144;1405704020;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as i understand, he was discussing why the robots are inevitable from a market standpoint (there are quite a few paupers, and they all want wheels. so we get trambourghini.) 761145;1405704204;CoinFire;BBL Going to work on a few different things, I'll try and drop in often :) 761146;1405704213;CoinFire;Thanks for the invite! :) 761147;1405704229;thickasthieves;thanks for coming by 761148;1405704343;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't see that as an argument at all. just... you know, drool. 761149;1405704377;asciilifeform;drool, unfortunately, is the correct explanation for a number of things. 761150;1405704382;mircea_popescu;if sex robots were widely available today, i'd prolly still not use them. (for that matter, indiancandy is a sex robot, not terribly expensive - a good server costs more than what she would) 761151;1405704420;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you're not in the market for a trambourghini, either, as i understand. 761152;1405704437;mircea_popescu;for very similar reasons. 761153;1405704450;mircea_popescu;in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong. 761154;1405704458;mircea_popescu;his idea of how to get there is similarly borkted. 761155;1405704487;asciilifeform;and yet trambos happen. 761156;1405704488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.00273992 = 0.6768 BTC [+] 761157;1405704506;mircea_popescu;"By the first time I had "sex" (depending on how you define it, since I took things in stages) I had already endured years of frustration and humiliation of an intensity that I don't think I can properly put into words." a ok. 761158;1405704512;asciilifeform;the poor man's idea of 'rich', combined with industry, is how we get trambo. 761159;1405704531;chetty;http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-potential-upend-legacy-payments-system-2014-7 761160;1405704531;assbot;Bitcoin Potential Upend Legacy Payments System - Business Insider 761161;1405704549;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 548 @ 0.00273994 = 1.5015 BTC [+] {2} 761162;1405704582;chetty; in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong.//a lot of rich dont seem to have much of a clue either 761163;1405704599;mircea_popescu;chetty kinda what makes it so difficult. 761164;1405704617;mircea_popescu;"I don't think an average man can pursue women effectively if he is primarily thinking about how good sex will feel when he gets it. That just isn't the right mindset when a man has to chat up dozens of women before he finds one with whom sex is a reasonable possibility." holy shit, with what woman is sex not a reasonable possibility ?! 761165;1405704623;mircea_popescu;ok enough of this guy, dear lord. 761166;1405704671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00273996 = 0.548 BTC [+] {2} 761167;1405704677;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'a chicken also wants to live' 761168;1405704695;mircea_popescu;this ain't living. 761169;1405704704;thickasthieves;"when a man has to chat up dozens of women" 761170;1405704713;thickasthieves;gj 761171;1405704714;mircea_popescu;ikr?! 761172;1405704732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00273997 = 0.822 BTC [+] {2} 761173;1405704740;mircea_popescu;there's nothing more pernicious to the mind than its ability to construct self coherent if spectacularly wrong representations. 761174;1405704746;asciilifeform;let them eat cake? 761175;1405704801;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i tell ye, if i perceived i HAD TO chat up women i'd be a fucking homicidal maniac, notwithstanding amazing success rates. even if i never left my own harem and so my success rate was forever 100%. 761176;1405704801;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 761177;1405704813;mircea_popescu;why not just relax and enjoy the fact that you CAN chat up women. 761178;1405704818;mircea_popescu;or for that matter, trees. 761179;1405704834;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's almost like you read a guide to survival in the arctic, and said 'wtf is this nonsense, just take compass and march south' 761180;1405704855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 342 @ 0.00273998 = 0.9371 BTC [+] {3} 761181;1405705002;asciilifeform;the notion that every male of the species can turn into mircea_popescu by effort of will is, at the very least, misguided. i catch quite a bit of crap for insisting that virtually everyone can, e.g., learn mathematics - so i sympathize. but it's still mistake. 761182;1405705264;chetty;asciilifeform, +1 761183;1405705561;thickasthieves;http://www.dell.com/bitcoin 761184;1405705562;assbot;Dell now accepts bitcoin | Dell 761185;1405705584;thickasthieves;"What is Coinbase? Coinbase is the world's largest platform for buying and selling bitcoins for US dollars at the current market rate." 761186;1405705612;thickasthieves;it's like the only biz that fits that description, no? 761187;1405705628;los_pantalones;what is the current market rate? 761188;1405705638;thickasthieves;whatever they it is 761189;1405705645;thickasthieves;say 761190;1405705651;los_pantalones;so there are many 761191;1405705661;los_pantalones;that match that description 761192;1405705666;thickasthieves;platforms? 761193;1405705675;los_pantalones;yes 761194;1405705683;thickasthieves;word 761195;1405705689;thickasthieves;i thought the rest were real exchanges 761196;1405705690;asciilifeform;'Do you also lecture people with Down's Syndrome on how they could learn to write 10,000 line Perl scripts if they just take it one step at a time? For some things there seems to be some minimum takeoff velocity.' 761197;1405705696;asciilifeform;(https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=soc.men/UnmiJcstddY/lQGxvNGTKBkJ) 761198;1405705730;thickasthieves;how is coinbase claiming they are largest then? 761199;1405705733;los_pantalones;thickasthieves we have a private one to our customers 761200;1405705741;los_pantalones;i suspect we are far from alone 761201;1405705747;los_pantalones;that is just their claim 761202;1405705783;los_pantalones;you are also thinking of the word "platform" too narrowly 761203;1405705796;los_pantalones;#bitcoin-otc would count 761204;1405705809;los_pantalones;lots of transactions take place OTC on skype 761205;1405705812;los_pantalones;these count 761206;1405705830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 215 @ 0.0027493 = 0.5911 BTC [+] {3} 761207;1405705961;mike_c;anybody can write a 10,000 line perl script. it's making it a 100 line script that's hard. 761208;1405706001;chetty;http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online 761209;1405706001;assbot;FedEx Indicted for Shipping Drugs for Online Pharmacies - Businessweek 761210;1405706019;asciilifeform;mike_c: i vaguely recall some joker who wrote a complete 386 pc emulator in about 1k of perl. that's the kind of thing being spoken of, i think. 761211;1405706070;asciilifeform;chetty: RIP 'common carrier doctrine' 761212;1405706081;asciilifeform;it was a nice 100 years. 761213;1405706088;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i think there's a space between arguing that nobody should bang head against wall and arguing everyone should be god. 761214;1405706138;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstand, you're trying to say to a fellow in padded cell, 'stop banging head.' generally good advice - except that sex drive doesn't ship with an 'off' switch. 761215;1405706152;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones there's this derpitude tradition where noobs claim firstbiggest first to be one day biggest. 761216;1405706165;mircea_popescu;it's roughly the equivalent of "callin it" 761217;1405706188;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it also doesn't ship with any particular rule as to how it is to be employed or manifested. 761218;1405706316;mircea_popescu;which is really where the problem starts. overactive sex drive makes kids misrepresent the facts of the matter : it's true that women make for convenient release, but it's not true that's what women ARE. 761219;1405706319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 209 @ 0.00275172 = 0.5751 BTC [+] {3} 761220;1405706336;mircea_popescu;as the weirdo ages and frustration builds, this distinction becomes less readily accessible. nevertheless... 761221;1405706343;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: women also aren't food - but the proverbial airplane crash castaway might beg to differ. 761222;1405706366;mircea_popescu;i know a few women i'm kinda tempted to eat with some regularity. 761223;1405706372;asciilifeform;lol 761224;1405706377;mircea_popescu;no actual cannibalism so far tho 761225;1405706379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 957 @ 0.00280116 = 2.6807 BTC [+] {5} 761226;1405706425;mircea_popescu;but yes, i daresay that i'd still chat up women in the andes. wtf do i care about survival anyway. 761227;1405706433;mircea_popescu;a life unpleasant is not worth surviving. 761228;1405706440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1465 @ 0.00281744 = 4.1275 BTC [+] {4} 761229;1405706474;asciilifeform;chetty: if fedex could leave usa to the mice and roaches, now would probably be the time. but don't hold your breath waiting for this. 761230;1405706501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 229 @ 0.00282971 = 0.648 BTC [+] {6} 761231;1405706581;chetty;asciilifeform, there is something in the usa other than mice and roaches? 761232;1405706617;*;asciilifeform pops an antenna, chitters inquisitively 761233;1405707367;thickasthieves;http://www.pfhub.com/russia-makes-32-billion-dollars-of-cubas-outstanding-debt-disappear-953/ 761234;1405707368;assbot;Russia makes $32 billion dollars of Cubas outstanding debt disappear 761235;1405707455;chetty;http://banksworstfear.com/bitcoin-remittances-effect-now/ 761236;1405707457;assbot;Bitcoin Remittances are In Effect Now | Banks Worst Fear 761237;1405707687;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/dell-com-accepting-bitcoin-offering-10-discount-alienware/ 761238;1405707904;thickasthieves;i should do $500/seat L2Bitcoin seminars for the local mexicans and guatemalans 761239;1405707922;thickasthieves;(re chetty's link) 761240;1405708186;danielpbarron;"If you would like to purchase XCP for Bitcoins, we advise that you use a centralized exchange for the time being. We are in the process of developing features that will make the purchase of XCP on Counterwallet very simple, and expect these to be working soon. Thanks for your patience." via http://counterwallet.co/ #AmazingCompany 761241;1405708187;assbot;Counterwallet 761242;1405708676;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 761243;1405708678;gribble;139988399.294 761244;1405710286;asciilifeform;http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1202453/human-random-number-generation << this topic will never really die, will it. 761245;1405710288;assbot;Human random number generation | Ludology | BoardGameGeek 761246;1405710554;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a << history, finance, philosophy, digital security, bitcoin 761247;1405711045;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves not entirely a bad idea. 761248;1405711268;fluffypony;five words: general management, cryptography, finance, cryptocurrencies, risk management 761249;1405711274;fluffypony;two of those are phrases, meh 761250;1405711592;asciilifeform;mathematics, systemantics, chumpatronics, polemology, psychoceramics. 761251;1405711849;mthreat;teledildonics 761252;1405712003;kakobrekla;i just like the pics. 761253;1405712008;kakobrekla;5 words. 761254;1405712066;mthreat;how about a haiku for #b-a 761255;1405712109;princessnell;http://www.cnbc.com/id/101849169 761256;1405712110;assbot;Time for digital currencies to grow upbitcoinommentary 761257;1405712122;princessnell;"As the creator of a digital currency, I..." 761258;1405712225;asciilifeform;mthreat: haiku << 'If only we might fall / Like cherry blossoms in the spring / So pure and radiant !' 761259;1405712249;*;asciilifeform associates haiku solely with kamikaze send-off ceremony 761260;1405712266;fluffypony;oh no princessnell 761261;1405712267;fluffypony;that guy 761262;1405712271;fluffypony;is such an utter fucktard 761263;1405712278;fluffypony;with his NautilusCoin bullshit 761264;1405712303;asciilifeform;'Since my body is a shell / I am going to take it off / and put on a glory that will never wear out.' (one mr. kenzo ishijima) 761265;1405712341;*;asciilifeform invites anyone who knows some other kind of haiku to substitute that. 761266;1405712350;fluffypony;and don't get me started on Dirac 761267;1405712362;fluffypony;http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/nautiluscoin-future-of-cryptocurrency/ 761268;1405712362;assbot;How NautilusCoin could change the digital currency marketforever 761269;1405712374;fluffypony;that's David Seaman doing the pump 761270;1405712410;fluffypony;then the market is like "lol wtf is this shit" 761271;1405712411;fluffypony;https://medium.com/@d_seaman/nautiluscoin-and-dirac-misunderstood-df353a9b6296 761272;1405712412;assbot;NautilusCoin and Dirac, misunderstood Medium 761273;1405712451;fluffypony;this is my favourite quote: 761274;1405712452;fluffypony;"I think money is exactly the same. I don’t think consumers will care much for the community their coin has; they will care about the algorithm. Or, more accurately, they will care about how the coin performs (mining cost, speed, security) because of that algorithm." 761275;1405712577;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: or "I’m not “hyping” these coins. These are advancements in cryptocurrency that not many people have noticed yet." 761276;1405712591;fluffypony;heh heh 761277;1405712661;thickasthieves;<+princessnell> "As the creator of a digital currency, I..." /// wtf is this, major media shilling alts day? 761278;1405712682;fluffypony;thickasthieves: Brian Kelly is a fucktard 761279;1405712693;fluffypony;he's a CNBC "contributor" (read: blogger) 761280;1405712704;fluffypony;and he "created" NautilusCoin (read: someone else did the work) 761281;1405712706;thickasthieves;<+fluffypony> "I think money is exactly ... lulz abound 761282;1405712718;fluffypony;and it has a fat premine for a "stabilisation fund" 761283;1405712795;princessnell;o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. 761284;1405712883;thickasthieves;princessnell system dump, reboot 761285;1405712893;thickasthieves;hehe 761286;1405712926;princessnell;thickasthieves and so it goes 761287;1405713107;thickasthieves;and goes and goes http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-bitcoin-professional-womens-network/ 761288;1405713107;assbot;SecondMarket Hosts Bitcoin Talk for Professional Women's Network 761289;1405713196;pankkake;a fiat currency will disappear in 27 years on average. So, if you live outside the US […] the currency you use in your daily life will likely go away in 27 years 761290;1405713203;pankkake;lol, statistics 761291;1405713247;mike_c;median, mean, whatever. 761292;1405713285;thickasthieves;;;estimate 761293;1405713286;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 18802851546.1 based on data since last change | 19651756602.8 based on data for last three days 761294;1405713298;asciilifeform;pankkake: 'the average number of cocks is one half' 761295;1405713599;princessnell;thickasthieves v heavy on the propagandaspeak 761296;1405714286;mircea_popescu;princessnell: As the creator of a digital currency, I..." << derp's never ending quest for relevancy. 761297;1405714360;mircea_popescu;one'd hope teh us propaganda drive to support their braindamage will collect better heads than the twinkletoss twins and nautilus coin guy. 761298;1405714382;mircea_popescu;i get more for .1 a tit for crying out loud. wasn't the usg supposed to be like rich and powerful and whatnot ? 761299;1405714451;mircea_popescu;"But what made Google successful as the worlds preferred search engine was not great community or shibe memes or aggressive marketing on Twitter." << orly. 761300;1405714474;mircea_popescu;"as a creator of a google, I know what made google successful!" 761301;1405714479;princessnell;the pipers only have to be as good as the mice they're leading 761302;1405714515;mircea_popescu;princessnell: o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. <<< precisely. 761303;1405714523;mircea_popescu;you sound like you went to school for this or something. 761304;1405714531;princessnell;nah, i just read a lot 761305;1405714539;mircea_popescu;and no re the pipers. 761306;1405714547;princessnell;well, i'm going to school for econ, which has applicable tools 761307;1405714552;mircea_popescu;in general you can evaluate who's going to win a battle just by looking at piperquality. 761308;1405714561;mircea_popescu;they who have the rubens and van dykes win. 761309;1405714569;princessnell;i think that's right 761310;1405714599;mircea_popescu;black victory was predictable just looking at greenwich village cca 1960. 761311;1405714636;mircea_popescu;nautilus coin guy needs to learn to play an instrument. 761312;1405714669;princessnell;ya well, in the us instruments are relative, maaan 761313;1405714697;princessnell;too many people have been getting by on bs for so long that few know anything else 761314;1405714758;princessnell;they can't identify a maestro for a mendicant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM21gPmkDpI 761315;1405714758;assbot;Joshua Bell playing violin in DC Metro Station. Please Stop and Hear the Music!!! - YouTube 761316;1405715063;mircea_popescu;amusingly, that's on trilema. 761317;1405715069;mircea_popescu;;;google site:trilema.com joshua bell 761318;1405715070;gribble;No matches found. 761319;1405715072;mircea_popescu;meh, 761320;1405715143;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/ 761321;1405715144;assbot;In re “Philosophy : Freedom of scientific information” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 761322;1405715145;mircea_popescu;there 761323;1405715210;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-18/holding-company-portugals-2nd-largest-bank-just-filed-bankruptcy-protection 761324;1405715390;princessnell;that's a good one 761325;1405715505;mircea_popescu;!s portugal 761326;1405715506;assbot;9 results for 'portugal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=portugal 761327;1405715524;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756255 yest :D 761328;1405715524;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761329;1405715535;mircea_popescu;;;ident mike_c 761330;1405715535;gribble;Nick 'mike_c', with hostmask 'mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598', is identified as user 'mike_c', with GPG key id 4FBC58464F910E21, key fingerprint 9086CA4627840552468FE3D44FBC58464F910E21, and bitcoin address None 761331;1405716517;chetty;http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/07/intellectual-and-practical-foolishness-the-precautionary-principle/ 761332;1405716518;assbot;Intellectual and Practical Foolishness: The Precautionary Principle « Roy Spencer, PhD 761333;1405716606;asciilifeform;chetty: http://yarchive.net/risks/risks_of_risks.html 761334;1405716606;assbot;Risks of RISKS (John McCarthy) 761335;1405716898;chetty;Date: 07 Sep 85, now thats cool asciilifeform tyvm 761336;1405716909;asciilifeform;chetty: 'yarchive' is a gold mine. 761337;1405716963;asciilifeform;(before anyone asks - no, i have not the faintest idea whether norman yarvin is a relative of curtis) 761338;1405717264;asciilifeform;relevant in light of recent nyoos: http://yarchive.net/risks/iranian_airbus.html 761339;1405717265;assbot;Iranian Airbus shootdown (Henry Spencer) 761340;1405718452;asciilifeform;more on the subject: http://yarchive.net/risks/vincennes_shootdown.html 761341;1405718453;assbot;Vincennes shootdown (Rob Horn) 761342;1405719109;BingoBoingo;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/18/2115220/tesla-model-s-hacking-prize-claimed 761343;1405719110;assbot;Tesla Model S Hacking Prize Claimed - Slashdot 761344;1405719343;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: still pales in comparison to the mp3 CAN bus hack: http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car 761345;1405719346;assbot;With hacking, music can take control of your car | ITworld 761346;1405719701;BingoBoingo;Ah yeah, Why the connected car shouldn't be 761347;1405719929;BingoBoingo;!up RagnarDanneskjol 761348;1405720854;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/xd1s53Bc 761349;1405720854;assbot;ought to be SOP, but is it? - Pastebin.com 761350;1405722153;fluffypony;;;seen naphex 761351;1405722154;gribble;naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks 761352;1405722159;fluffypony;O.o 761353;1405722171;Pierre_Rochard;http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2014-07-16/global-poll.html#bubbles 761354;1405722171;assbot;Global Poll 2014-07-16 - Bloomberg 761355;1405722196;Pierre_Rochard;55% of the ‘financial elite’ believe Bitcoin is “Already a bubble” 761356;1405722213;Pierre_Rochard;19% hold that view for U.S. Treasuries 761357;1405722895;asciilifeform;http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/dev_random.html#update_5 << linus on rng, for anyone who hasn't already read. 761358;1405722896;assbot;/dev/random (H. Peter Anvin; Theodore Y. Ts'o) 761359;1405723185;thickasthieves;believed 761360;1405723190;thickasthieves;the poll is from January 761361;1405727397;benkay;salud de canada 761362;1405728278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 395 @ 0.0027094 = 1.0702 BTC [-] {20} 761363;1405728339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 667 @ 0.00266083 = 1.7748 BTC [-] {8} 761364;1405728773;benkay;so what'd i miss last two days? 761365;1405728860;mike_c;china declared bitcoin illegal 761366;1405729287;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard i wouldn't hold anything bloomberg says against the "financial elite". 761367;1405729305;mircea_popescu;anymore than i'd hold anything jezebel publishes against "hot college sluts" 761368;1405729357;Pierre_Rochard;Agreed, I suspect the people who respond to bloomberg surveys are a few layers below “financial elite” 761369;1405730727;mircea_popescu;!up kanzure 761370;1405733333;dub;!ticker h am 761371;1405733334;assbot;It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. 761372;1405733337;dub;!ticker h am1 761373;1405733337;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.16000000 / 0.17427496 / 0.17810011 (67 shares, 11.67642261 BTC), 7D: 0.16000000 / 0.18260023 / 0.20000000 (421 shares, 76.87469724 BTC), 30D: 0.16000000 / 0.19476211 / 0.23100000 (2179 shares, 424.38663775 BTC) 761374;1405733379;benkay;!t h rent 761375;1405733379;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00368000 / 0.00442061 / 0.00540000 (3154 shares, 13.94260472 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00400794 / 0.00540000 (9159 shares, 36.70867789 BTC) 761376;1405733390;benkay;;;ticker 761377;1405733391;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 629.46, Best ask: 630.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 631.61, 24 hour volume: 5421.77762335, 24 hour low: 618.46, 24 hour high: 632.96, 24 hour vwap: 625.997690338 761378;1405733518;decimation;asciilifeform: re: linux on /dev/random "To me it sounds from your description that you may well be on the edge of "too anal". Real life _has_ to be taken into account, and not accepting entropy because of theoretical issues is _not_ a good idea" 761379;1405733538;decimation;"we have to accept that we can't give real entropy to those that need it, so shut up and get on the bus 761380;1405734006;kakobrekla;you mean the wagen. 761381;1405734115;decimation;no, the wagen is for those who refuse the bus :) 761382;1405734454;decimation;At the end of "the first circle", the prisoners are being removed from Mavrino in a vehicle disguised as a meat truck: 761383;1405734486;decimation;"Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words: MYACO. VIANDE. FLEISCH. MEAT. 761384;1405734487;decimation;He remembered having seen several trucks like this today in various parts of Moscow. Taking out his notebook he wrote with his dark-red fountain pen: 'Now and again on the streets of Moscow you meet food delivery vans, clean, well-designed and hygienic. One must admit that the city's food supplies are admirably well organized.'" 761385;1405734515;decimation;That's what Solzhenitsyn thought about the West back then 761386;1405734605;decimation;"useful idiots" 761387;1405735052;*;kakobrekla thinks the bus leads to railway station. 761388;1405736934;thickasthieves;"The Chamber of Digital Commerce announced itself on Saturday at the North American Bitcoin Conference in Chicago. The group is registered as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit, which allows it to act as a lobbyist, and is being led by Perianne Boring, a former journalist and Congressional staffer. It has early backing from RRE Ventures and Tally Capital, which are leading a seed-round of fund 761389;1405736934;thickasthieves;raising." 761390;1405736960;thickasthieves;is it really called a "seed-round" if it's a non-profit? 761391;1405736969;thickasthieves;and is seed-round really in need of a hyphen? 761392;1405736976;thickasthieves;(WSJ) 761393;1405737409;mircea_popescu;lol chamber of digital commerce. 761394;1405737424;mircea_popescu;what is this thing with youths where they want to pretend like they're doing shit. 761395;1405737584;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: apprenticeship system broke down due to minimum wage at the low end, and college at the “high end” 761396;1405737601;Pierre_Rochard;so now we pretend to do shit and hope it sticks. 761397;1405737698;mircea_popescu;very expensive process. 761398;1405737727;mircea_popescu;she's a pretty girl, she's ambitious, she's for some reason chosen to fuck herself over the mocsny way. 761399;1405737747;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#761157 761400;1405737748;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761401;1405737759;mircea_popescu;just replace "sex" with "business success" 761402;1405737849;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: mocsny had other interesting quirks. he was, for instance, ideologically opposed to driving car (pollution!) 761403;1405737854;Pierre_Rochard;Yes, well it doesn’t seem to be business success that she’s after. Naturally, she’s interested in social validation from her in-group of fellow bitcoiners 761404;1405737908;thickasthieves;!s perianne 761405;1405737908;assbot;6 results for 'perianne' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perianne 761406;1405737962;thickasthieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/ she looks like an actress for a cheesy cop show 761407;1405737963;assbot;Perianne Boring - Boring Economics - Forbes 761408;1405737974;thickasthieves;a dame 761409;1405737998;Pierre_Rochard;https://twitter.com/PerianneDC/status/462716981356294144 761410;1405738034;Pierre_Rochard;WHCD stands for White House Correspondents Dinner, where journalists go to pretend like they’re doing shit 761411;1405738070;thickasthieves;first comment is good 761412;1405738219;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard that's business success. 761413;1405738233;mircea_popescu;if you're validated for your peers for what you do, that's business success. 761414;1405738299;mircea_popescu;and whcd is just a little pork, take all these famished kids and serve them a proper meal once a year is the idea. 761415;1405738310;mircea_popescu;course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. 761416;1405738345;mircea_popescu;!s bitcoingirl 761417;1405738345;assbot;203 results for 'bitcoingirl' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoingirl 761418;1405738350;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves ^ 761419;1405738357;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu I think that widens the definition of “business” a bit much. being the accountant that I am, I always look at that net income line. perhaps to my detriment 761420;1405738369;thickasthieves;<+mircea_popescu> course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. // what, dollars grow on trees? 761421;1405738377;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard but business is doing things, no other definition really works. 761422;1405738389;mircea_popescu;you can also know things, and you can also fuck really well. that just about covers human experience. 761423;1405738437;thickasthieves;dont forget hugs and cat love 761424;1405738469;Pierre_Rochard;I wouldn’t describe the wealthy heiress who is very busy organizing charity galas to be a “business success” - however much she’s “doing things”. Her business is structurally running a loss 761425;1405738528;thickasthieves;hmm 761426;1405738533;thickasthieves;you are stretching 761427;1405738562;thickasthieves;charity galas cant be success now? 761428;1405738571;thickasthieves;they are a loss? 761429;1405738594;thickasthieves;what if they raise the money? 761430;1405738606;Pierre_Rochard;they consume capital, I’ve always thought of “business success” as creating capital 761431;1405738619;Pierre_Rochard;the more money they raise, the more capital they consume 761432;1405738650;Pierre_Rochard;semantics 761433;1405738715;thickasthieves;well they are called nonprofits for a reason 761434;1405738735;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard running a loss of what ? 761435;1405738760;mircea_popescu;all economy is pouring fluid from one vessel to the next. 761436;1405738787;mircea_popescu;if she's spending her own money to buy something, who are you to know better ? as long as she can keep doing it she's a businessman just like you. 761437;1405738795;Pierre_Rochard;a loss of capital. I disagree, capital does accumulate 761438;1405738800;mircea_popescu;or in romanian, "cistigi, pagubesti, negustor te numesti" 761439;1405738806;thickasthieves;mp i agree strongly with this sentiment 761440;1405738822;mircea_popescu;so if i spend capital to buy advertising im a bad businessman ? 761441;1405738830;mircea_popescu;what's this, mercantilism 2.0 ? 761442;1405738834;thickasthieves;a system persisting is success 761443;1405738836;thickasthieves;that's all 761444;1405738841;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves obv. 761445;1405738850;Pierre_Rochard;we are disagreeing on semantics then, because to me spending:investing::consumption:business 761446;1405738875;mircea_popescu;maybe we're disagreeing on the point where you cut the space of externalities ideologically and pretend like it ain't so. 761447;1405738883;mircea_popescu;the mining mogul uses up coal to make money. 761448;1405738896;mircea_popescu;the socialite uses up money to make whatever the fuck you'd call it. 761449;1405738900;Pierre_Rochard;no, because you are buying an intangible “capital” good called goodwill / brand awareness / customer education. This capital depreciates over time 761450;1405738901;mircea_popescu;"pr" 761451;1405738911;mircea_popescu;everything depreciates over time. 761452;1405738950;mircea_popescu;the only measure of success is, "is this species still extant or meanwhile extinguished" 761453;1405738954;mircea_popescu;that's how nature does it. 761454;1405738983;Pierre_Rochard;well yes, the socialite buys social capital, I would call them a successful socialite, I wouldn’t normally call them a successful businessperson. they would find it offensive to compare their activities to commercial ones 761455;1405738999;mircea_popescu;what a socialite finds offensive is entirely her problem 761456;1405739003;mircea_popescu;she'll still take it in the ass. 761457;1405739007;thickasthieves;wife met with a state senator today asking her to be on the board of a nonprofit that gives public school teachers funds for stuff the school won't pay for 761458;1405739027;thickasthieves;that outta twist things nicely for ya 761459;1405739038;thickasthieves;charity to the failings of the gov 761460;1405739048;Pierre_Rochard;fair enough, so the conclusion is that boring is a successful businessperson? 761461;1405739050;mircea_popescu;the us is too meta. 761462;1405739051;thickasthieves;oughta 761463;1405739062;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard no. she positions herself as she were, she pretends to be. 761464;1405739080;mircea_popescu;otherwise, she's a ridiculous teenager, putting online a forum about "how to score chix" 761465;1405739085;mircea_popescu;while acnee, basement, virgin. 761466;1405739090;asciilifeform;Pierre_Rochard: start an org that will give funds to pay for stuff the nonprofit won't pay for. do this until stack overflows. 761467;1405739092;mircea_popescu;but "who's gonna know" right ? 761468;1405739163;thickasthieves;ascii they are called trusts right? 761469;1405739202;asciilifeform;'trust,' afaik, is somewhat generic 761470;1405739216;thickasthieves;i think it's where the wife wants to end up, deciding which nonprofits get pools of money 761471;1405739218;asciilifeform;thickasthieves << 'shift' key wore out? 761472;1405739231;thickasthieves;just spicing things up 761473;1405739234;asciilifeform;lol 761474;1405739291;Pierre_Rochard;at what point would you say she is a thing? If she is able to do enough work to raise money for her new organization, is that not a successful business? 761475;1405739295;asciilifeform;unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget. 761476;1405739325;thickasthieves;kako sells gadgets? 761477;1405739334;asciilifeform;thickasthieves: one in particular 761478;1405739377;asciilifeform;thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#758843 761479;1405739377;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761480;1405739465;thickasthieves;ah i see 761481;1405739473;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard the objection here isn't on the lines of business. she looks like she could raise a million dollars on the vegas strip np 761482;1405739486;mircea_popescu;the objection here is that she's working hard, not smart. 761483;1405739501;mircea_popescu;which is why the link to the mocsny guy. 761484;1405739537;mircea_popescu;let me tell you a story, it'll perfectly well illustrate what i mean. 761485;1405739546;Pierre_Rochard;Ok, I’m all ears 761486;1405739617;mircea_popescu;so, when i went to hs, they made this special "suprareal" class. (in romanian, "real" means you do math, otherwise it's a chick hs doing languages, or a prole hs doing "skills"). they made the entrance so fucking hard tho that only about 18 kids out of the entire region made it. the remainder "fell through" to 3 normal "real" classes at this elite hs. 761487;1405739660;mircea_popescu;then the ministry decided it won't ok a 18 student class. so they took a dozen the kids that had fallen through 3 normal classes, and had not found an alternative hs in the dozen or so top highschools around. and put them in. 761488;1405739715;mircea_popescu;now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go. 761489;1405739740;mircea_popescu;she came. for four years, that poor unfortunate soul sat there, dreading the moment anyone asked anything. because she knew she couldn't cope. just smart enough to smart. 761490;1405739742;asciilifeform;lol i remember this story 761491;1405739763;mircea_popescu;nobody flunked her, because you don't flunk well behaved girls. and so... she made it through. parents beamingly proud. 761492;1405739789;mircea_popescu;all the kids that were any good left, generally the country. just about now, an elderly lady with a full professorship was looking for an assistant. 761493;1405739795;mircea_popescu;if possible, a polite and introverted girl. 761494;1405739818;mircea_popescu;so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less! 761495;1405739846;mircea_popescu;there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe. 761496;1405739851;mircea_popescu;now... is she a thing ? 761497;1405739854;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams. 761498;1405739878;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform they could have thrown her out, np. just... 761499;1405739950;Pierre_Rochard;Ah, I see what you mean now 761500;1405739966;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i spoke to other people from that time, and they remember her. from other lectures. 761501;1405739967;mircea_popescu;so, yeah. she can be a thing if she wants. she doesn't, even if she may be too stupid to realise this. 761502;1405740013;Pierre_Rochard;Reminds me of this diagram (excuse the wp): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenge_vs_skill.svg 761503;1405740013;assbot;File:Challenge vs skill.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 761504;1405740038;asciilifeform;'but dr. x!! i just don't -get- euler's totient! pleeeease explain it again!' 761505;1405740331;Pierre_Rochard;would it be fair to say “pretending” = taking on a challenge that you don’t have the skills for, and “a thing” = taking on a challenge you have the skills for? 761506;1405740401;mircea_popescu;i think so. 761507;1405740412;mircea_popescu;skills broadly speaking. 761508;1405740497;Pierre_Rochard;Right. Hmm. Going to sleep on this one now. I like the heuristic. I’ll be doing log reading this weekend with that in mind 761509;1405740553;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not sure how similar to your girl, but all i could think of in that lecture was 'why no one humanely shoots this broken horse?' 761510;1405740716;mircea_popescu;why put her in the spot is more the q 761511;1405740851;asciilifeform;and$t0, $t0, 0xffbfffff 761512;1405740859;asciilifeform;lol wrong window 761513;1405740869;decimation;there's also the dunning-kruger effect, the unskilled strongly tend to think that they are skilled 761514;1405740913;mircea_popescu;decimation now imagine what happens to a society that takes all the natural victims of this phenomenon, kids aged 15-20, and a) preaches to the girls they should be more like the boys, ie, stupid in this particular manner and b) 761515;1405740916;asciilifeform;decimation: only goes so far. i really can't imagine this particular specimen thought it was skilled. 761516;1405740932;mircea_popescu;spends all the time it should spend training them so they stop sucking training them to believe they are just fine and this is what one does and should do. 761517;1405740981;decimation;yeah the problem is more the marginal boy that mircea points out 761518;1405741014;decimation;at my university I found these types "lecturing" freshman psychology, hoping to "earn" a phd in social science 761519;1405741111;decimation;I admire the german system for this reason; take a test around middle school to really determine if you are capable of the university path 761520;1405741118;decimation;if not, learn a trade 761521;1405741162;decimation;this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not 761522;1405741177;asciilifeform;decimation: except when it doesn't. consider japanese 'cram schools' 761523;1405741226;asciilifeform;decimation: the marginal kids get herded by their family into a kind of boot camp where they get trained, like animals, to jump through the burning ring 761524;1405741256;decimation;it's true that no filter is going to be perfect 761525;1405741273;decimation;but it's better than shoving every kid into college 761526;1405741296;asciilifeform;even ancient china, apparently, had 'cram schools.' (see miyazaki, 'china's examination hell' - neat little monograph on the subject) 761527;1405741505;decimation;interesting, thanks for the tip 761528;1405741607;decimation;here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? 761529;1405741646;decimation;one answer I came up with: banning bitcoin is banning information transfer, which seems to be beyond the power of the state 761530;1405741729;decimation;whereas banning physical gold transaction is possible, at least within the "officially recognized" banking and exchange entities 761531;1405741785;mircea_popescu; here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? << well, why has gold been "Beaten so badly by fiat" ? 761532;1405742223;mircea_popescu; this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not << whole fucking contemporary us is built upon people pretending they are everyithing they're not. 761533;1405742255;mircea_popescu;it starts with the us itself pretending to be part of the western world, while leading africa in rapes, teenage pregnancy, incarceration, functional illiteracy and the like 761534;1405742272;mircea_popescu;religious obscurantism, you name it, they got it. 761535;1405742442;thickasthieves;you create one country and you think you can do anything for a few hundred years 761536;1405742584;nubbins`;the british only created one country? ;D 761537;1405742668;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/TD57iUI 761538;1405742668;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 761539;1405742674;nubbins`;^ just finished 761540;1405744463;mircea_popescu;!up agamemnon23 761541;1405744500;nubbins`;i'd wondered what happened to goat, seems he's banned from the forums 761542;1405744550;mircea_popescu;didn';t he make a sikrit forum where he derps with tortilla and some glbse bagholders ? 761543;1405744678;nubbins`;;;google cryptocrypt 761544;1405744679;gribble;CryptoCrypt - Index: ; crypto-, crypt- - Word Information: ; cryptocrypt.org (cryptocryptorg) on Twitter: 761545;1405748766;artifexd;I don't understand this “burning bitcoin" concept. Bitcoin are destined to be one of the most valuable commodities that have ever existed. Burning them is just dumb. Plain and simple. Dumb. 761546;1405748827;TheNewDeal;probably smells good 761547;1405748835;artifexd;Also, I'm a little intoxicated. "Welcome to Ecuador" says the family, with alcohol. 761548;1405749255;mircea_popescu;artifexd people are attracted by the outrageous. 761549;1405749559;TheNewDeal;and outraged at the attactive 761550;1405751526;mircea_popescu;that too 761551;1405754752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.01500255 = 0.6001 BTC [-] {4} 761552;1405755254;*;Duffer1 buys smokin hot new comp 761553;1405755261;*;Duffer1 forgets to buy case 761554;1405755263;Duffer1;:( 761555;1405759830;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu ever considered dial-in access to mpex? decommissioned hardware should be cheap and it'd work internationally (9600 baud would suffice) 761556;1405759831;gribble;The operation succeeded. 761557;1405759891;jurov;since we're on irc, why not bring back bbs days of glory? 761558;1405761115;Duffer1;i'd mudd 761559;1405761186;Duffer1;oh snap http://www.mudstats.com/ 761560;1405761187;assbot;MUDStats.Com: statistics and information on MUD/MUCK/MUSH/MUX/MOO games 761561;1405765467;kakobrekla; unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget. < moving to eu already? 761562;1405766370;fluffypony;what gadget? 761563;1405768211;dub;the fuckingmachines.com one 761564;1405770470;pankkake;;;later tell Duffer1 http://fs65.trilulilu.ro/imgs/BesTiuTzu/cea-mai-tare-unitate_3aa1759f9e8c56.jpg 761565;1405770471;gribble;The operation succeeded. 761566;1405773113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 194 @ 0.00278 = 0.5393 BTC [+] 761567;1405774231;thickasthieves;http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ 761568;1405774232;assbot;Peeling the onion: Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government | PandoDaily 761569;1405774994;thickasthieves;http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/imag0016.jpg?w=1000&h=829 761570;1405777043;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: it could travel in a crate, no ? 761571;1405780257;mircea_popescu;jurov i don't get what it'd be supposed to do tho. you mean dial-up access only ? anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is. 761572;1405780982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00278 = 1.668 BTC [+] {2} 761573;1405782331;thickasthieves;"Dell should pre-install Bitcoin wallets in all its laptops" ~Reddit 761574;1405782633;pankkake;what could possibly go wrong 761575;1405783544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00276999 = 1.4709 BTC [-] 761576;1405783605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 573 @ 0.00278983 = 1.5986 BTC [+] {3} 761577;1405783666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 268 @ 0.00279717 = 0.7496 BTC [+] {10} 761578;1405783789;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 628 @ 0.00282677 = 1.7752 BTC [+] {8} 761579;1405783799;punkman;mircea_popescu: anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is. << I think he meant having his modem dial a telephone number for mpex 761580;1405785061;thickasthieves;“The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face" ~ Putin 761581;1405785618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79138904 BTC to 12`351 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 761582;1405785680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 26.54172304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2308 satoshi per share 761583;1405785740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01507294 = 0.829 BTC [-] {2} 761584;1405785753;thickasthieves;some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ 761585;1405785753;assbot;A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED 761586;1405788142;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-bitstamp-preparing-for-700/ 761587;1405788272;herbijudlestoids;hullo 761588;1405788293;herbijudlestoids;thought i would check in 761589;1405788309;herbijudlestoids;went to poke mpex, looks like a lot has been going on 761590;1405788360;thickasthieves;everyone's keeping busy, slow this morning though 761591;1405788477;herbijudlestoids;all healthy and happy? 761592;1405788480;thickasthieves;http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/balance.png?w=382 meters? 761593;1405788511;thickasthieves;afaik everyone is healthy 761594;1405788519;thickasthieves;other than mpex 761595;1405788607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00275165 = 0.6164 BTC [-] {7} 761596;1405788738;herbijudlestoids;yes, admit i was a little surprised about the downtime thing upon visiting trilema 761597;1405788754;herbijudlestoids;but i guess mircea_popescu knows whats what when it comes to building the system he designed 761598;1405788822;mircea_popescu;o look herbijudlestoids 761599;1405788830;herbijudlestoids;hi mp :) 761600;1405788840;herbijudlestoids;verify happy/healthy? 761601;1405788849;mircea_popescu;sure. 761602;1405788851;herbijudlestoids;gud 761603;1405788921;herbijudlestoids;things have been going well on my end, after the first big customer hit we have had a bit of a flood of them, and our accountant has even managed to score us significant tax breaks around R&D for the last FY 761604;1405788941;herbijudlestoids;so, as i guess my absence has indicated, have been keeping busy 761605;1405788987;herbijudlestoids;anyway, 3am here, just wanted to login and check on yall after i noticed mpex was down. lots of love. 761606;1405789066;benkay;"We are a transportation company—we are not law enforcement," Mr. Fitzgerald added. // http://online.wsj.com/articles/fedex-indicted-for-role-in-distributing-controlled-substances-prescription-drugs-1405637242 761607;1405789066;assbot;FedEx Indicted in Prescription Drug Shipping Probe - WSJ 761608;1405790139;mircea_popescu;benkay no they are criminalz. 761609;1405790181;mircea_popescu;they knew-or-should-have-known (tm) that people are sending dope through the mail and stopped offerind mail services! 761610;1405790205;mircea_popescu;no any-services (tm) may be offered by anyone because IT IS DANGEROUS 761611;1405791840;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 229 @ 0.00454957 = 1.0419 BTC [-] {2} 761612;1405791962;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 249 @ 0.00286 = 0.7121 BTC [-] {3} 761613;1405793002;mircea_popescu;"Black men who are employed also get the shaft by having an average life expectancy of 64 years, which means on average they don't live long enough to see any of their social security tax payments, given that the retirement age is 65 years." 761614;1405793022;mircea_popescu;fucking statistics 101. black men may have a 64 yo le, but black men WHO ARE EMPLOYED do not. 761615;1405793051;*;asciilifeform does not know the genuine figure, and doubts that anyone else does 761616;1405794213;benkay;mircea_popescu: it's a wild ride 761617;1405794259;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform which figure you mean ? 761618;1405794647;benkay;https://www.refheap.com/88370 761619;1405794647;assbot;anonymous's paste: 88370 761620;1405794651;benkay;^^ o.O 761621;1405794906;benkay; some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. 761622;1405794906;assbot;A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED 761623;1405794918;benkay;0, 1, inf. 761624;1405795621;fluffypony;FluffyCoin ? 761625;1405795658;benkay;probably just your gpg keyid ;) 761626;1405795677;benkay;-> magic bytes in protocol, to separate networks 761627;1405795707;benkay;no mining per se, because that's a feature of btc, you know? 761628;1405795715;benkay;pre-mine, act as your own central bank. 761629;1405795813;benkay;reputation and behavior are incredibly important because you can rewrite the blockchain basically at will, unless you do something with a merged-mine approach (but i don't know enough about mm to comment really) 761630;1405796638;kakobrekla;asciilifeform possibly, but i suspect it still a fortune to ship since im not in china or uk. two more issues, as i said, its not assembled atm and would need to be before its shipped overseas, to see whats what. this takes time. 761631;1405796705;kakobrekla;other thing is, Z axis, while I have the parts, two alu blocks would still need to be machined - if you have access to machining you are prolly better off getting alu machined locally. 761632;1405796757;kakobrekla;and get the rest of the parts from uk/china. whichever you prefer. its same stuff. 761633;1405796828;kakobrekla;>prolly better off getting alu machined locally.< i mean all the profiles. 761634;1405797178;kakobrekla;now if youd be in eu, id grab all the parts and come with them to put it together - not even selling - would lend it for free. 761635;1405798084;benkay;these canadians! 761636;1405798111;benkay;i just found a beer bottle with a threaded neck onto which a cap had been crimped to not un-thread. i did not know that this was possible! 761637;1405799421;mircea_popescu;<benkay> some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. << truth. whore stopped me in the street last night, "gringo how do i get my own coin ?" 761638;1405799422;assbot;A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED 761639;1405799541;benkay;you're already known as the btc baron? 761640;1405799611;jurov;mircea_popescu: i meant for you to have actual modem onsite, to be able to reach mpex even if there's internet problem 761641;1405799624;mircea_popescu;uh 761642;1405799774;jurov;and mpex users would be asked not to disclose the number 761643;1405799790;jurov;but not sure if there's room for this scenario if mpex's completely ddos proof now.. 761644;1405799855;mircea_popescu;i'd rather make it so it works than you know, make it so it phones. 761645;1405799865;jurov;lolk 761646;1405799892;jurov;or phone poor moiety and dictate signed order to her xD 761647;1405800036;mircea_popescu;lol 761648;1405800061;moiety;XD 761649;1405800927;mircea_popescu;64 bytes from [x.x.x.x]: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.47 ms 761650;1405800932;mircea_popescu;now that's what i'm talking about. 761651;1405803230;benkay;oh so this is going to be entertaining 761652;1405803264;benkay;i discovered at the border that my passport is expired. canadian borderfolk dgaf, but i'm *really* anticipating hitting US customs now. 761653;1405803272;benkay;like so excited omg 761654;1405803738;mircea_popescu;inb4 benkay exiled to canuckistan. 761655;1405803749;mircea_popescu;becomes 2nd ovid. 761656;1405803972;Namworld;Well you can visit me while you're stuck in canuckistan. 761657;1405804092;benkay;;;curl mpex.co 761658;1405804093;gribble;Error: "curl" is not a valid command. 761659;1405804096;benkay;gtfo 761660;1405804101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 302 @ 0.00286538 = 0.8653 BTC [+] {2} 761661;1405804144;FabianB;;;status 761662;1405804154;FabianB;$status 761663;1405804156;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 761664;1405804260;mircea_popescu;hopefully that'll cut donw on the join/part spam. 761665;1405804285;*;BingoBoingo claps 761666;1405804527;fluffypony;yay 761667;1405804608;Namworld;I have those turned off in my client since last year. I don't see those anymore. Was quite annoying and barely helpful. 761668;1405804678;mircea_popescu;Namworld yeah but take the recent camho invasion for instance. 761669;1405804685;mircea_popescu;we'd have never known. 761670;1405804694;mircea_popescu;good practice to voice/help new people anyway. 761671;1405804752;mircea_popescu;for anyone looking to get a taste of obscure bug parade : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659512 761672;1405804754;assbot;Bug 659512 – no chance to enter a password during key generation in command-line mode 761673;1405804818;mircea_popescu;for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone. 761674;1405805870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002865 = 0.8595 BTC [-] 761675;1405807154;BingoBoingo;%t 761676;1405807155;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 222 Ask: 242 Last Price: 223 24h-Vol: 18k High: 223 Low: 222 VWAP: 222 761677;1405807169;BingoBoingo;%ob 761678;1405807170;atcbot;722@279 30k@278 18k@242 | 22k@222 57k@211 183k@210 761679;1405807176;BingoBoingo;%d 761680;1405807179;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 687182.56 in 2007 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: 0.00 761681;1405807441;nubbins`;hi 761682;1405807473;BingoBoingo;;;laser 761683;1405807474;gribble;Error: "laser" is not a valid command. 761684;1405807486;nubbins`;;;lasers 761685;1405807486;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 761686;1405807488;nubbins`;plural 761687;1405807490;nubbins`;:D 761688;1405807647;nubbins`;!up stormlight 761689;1405808119;nubbins`;any of you know who klaus nomi is? 761690;1405810029;mircea_popescu;meh 761691;1405810342;kakobrekla;yeah 761692;1405810866;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/07/clean-water/ 761693;1405810867;assbot;Archaeologist : Ancient Group Claimed Drinking Clean Water Caused Diarrhea | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 761694;1405810933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 207 @ 0.0028742 = 0.595 BTC [+] 761695;1405813648;mircea_popescu;"As an example, the following string of numbers is anything but random:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 However, if this is run through a MD5 or SHA whitener, the result would 761696;1405813648;mircea_popescu;*look* random, even though the source material is anything but random." 761697;1405813657;mircea_popescu;in which we find Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means. 761698;1405813889;BingoBoingo;!up Lee- 761699;1405814340;BingoBoingo;!up jMyles 761700;1405816057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 179 @ 0.002875 = 0.5146 BTC [+] 761701;1405816118;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 179 @ 0.00288 = 0.5155 BTC [+] 761702;1405819730;BingoBoingo;!up nubbins` 761703;1405819820;nubbins`;sorry, gone agzin 761704;1405819822;nubbins`;*again 761705;1405819832;nubbins`;print sale was a smashing success, gonna get drunk 761706;1405820359;BingoBoingo;%d 761707;1405820360;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 535172.17 in 1988 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -22.12 761708;1405821229;benkay; for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone. // mpex? 761709;1405822046;BingoBoingo;!up hanbot 761710;1405822110;hanbot;danke. so preet bharara finally lost a case http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/business/Rengan-Rajaratnam-case-shows-limits-of-insider-trading-laws.html?_r=0 761711;1405822112;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 761712;1405822535;asciilifeform;hanbot: preet bharara! 761713;1405822562;asciilifeform;hanbot: the american roland freisler 761714;1405822746;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: why would i wish for the gadget if i had a machining setup. (could then make one just like it.) 761715;1405822824;asciilifeform;mpex modem << as i recall, reliability of net connection is not an issue at mpex 761716;1405823349;kakobrekla;asciilifeform having one thing machined once is not same as having the machine at home 761717;1405823407;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: sure. i could have parts machined. but, on top of being a miser, i'm rather impatient. 761718;1405823450;kakobrekla;impatient. < off the shelf thing is your best bet then. 761719;1405823458;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: see 'miser' part. 761720;1405823480;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: off-the-shelf variant of the whole shebang is 50k or so. 761721;1405823547;kakobrekla;well im getting mixed readings here - the offer in otc was 2btc? which is 1k or something? 761722;1405823549;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: (of what? pick'n'placer & paste depositor combo robot) 761723;1405823572;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: 2btc offer for complete xyz frame and analogue components. 761724;1405823583;asciilifeform;afaik, this is not available as a standalone product anywhere. 761725;1405823585;kakobrekla;something like what im building should be 15-25k - this is custom made. 761726;1405823607;kakobrekla;at least that was the estimate that a company here gave me. 761727;1405823612;kakobrekla;years ago though. 761728;1405823751;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: just need to move a steel tube around inside a 50cm cube to 0.1mm. 761729;1405823763;asciilifeform;(steps) 761730;1405823781;kakobrekla;0.1 is not much to ask as far as i know. 761731;1405823844;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: the funny part is, surplus lab robots (like the one i used to program) can be had for < $1k. but they're gigantic. 761732;1405823872;asciilifeform;!up hanbot 761733;1405823940;kakobrekla;cheap 761734;1405823968;asciilifeform;cheap. but it has to stand somewhere. and be moved there. 761735;1405823968;kakobrekla;iirc i paid about 5k back them for my stuff. 761736;1405823989;kakobrekla;back then* 761737;1405824025;*;hanbot wonders how big an ideal robot is 761738;1405824036;asciilifeform;hanbot: ideal for what ? 761739;1405824072;asciilifeform;hanbot: for my particular case, a cube of 50cm edge would suffice. 761740;1405824092;hanbot;well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher 761741;1405824118;kakobrekla;Z axis of 50 is most problematic parameter :) 761742;1405824118;asciilifeform;hanbot: naturally depends on the size and quantity of objects being moved. 761743;1405824159;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: actually a 'z' of 5cm or so would suffice. 761744;1405824174;kakobrekla;mostly - Z is a small fraction of X or Y 761745;1405824177;kakobrekla;yeah. 761746;1405824255;asciilifeform;hanbot: my old machine - http://media.molboxllc.com/minion-ios.mp4 761747;1405824264;asciilifeform;hanbot: about the size of a compact car. 761748;1405824320;asciilifeform;well, not mine. belonged to usa. 761749;1405824588;hanbot;looks pretty hefty 761750;1405824609;asciilifeform;it was. 761751;1405824898;BingoBoingo;Interesting change of pace https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/13/ 761752;1405824899;assbot;Game 13 - Death 2563 Life 7437 Year 738 - War of Life 761753;1405824929;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means << 'random' is simply a non-scientific qualifier. like 'big'. 761754;1405825154;decimation;how relevant the senate is: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9249837/U.S._Senator_blasts_Microsoft_s_H_1B_push_as_it_lays_off_18_000_workers 761755;1405825154;assbot;U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 workers - Computerworld 761756;1405825178;decimation;But the senator's attack on "three of our greatest masters of the universe," and "super billionaires," was clearly primed by Microsoft's announcement, also on Thursday, that it was laying off18,000 employees. "What did we see in the newspaper today?" said Sessions, "News from Microsoft. Was it that they are having to raise wages to try to get enough good, quality engineers to do the work? Are they expanding or are they hiring? No, 761757;1405825179;decimation;that is not what the news was, unfortunately. Not at all." 761758;1405825363;asciilifeform;decimation: if the indians graduating from u.s. schools agreed to live 10 to a room in a dormitory, instead of 250k/yr in chumper town (see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#606968) they might get hired in place of the imported coolies. 761759;1405825364;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 761760;1405825405;decimation;indeed. and the question of banning the import of said coolies is off the table of course 761761;1405825418;BingoBoingo;%tslb 761762;1405825420;atcbot;1 hour 17 minutes and 57 seconds 761763;1405825456;asciilifeform;decimation: why should microshit (or anybody else) subsidize the real estate racket? 761764;1405825461;decimation;the irony being that the very many who can make such policy (a senator) is whining about what bill gates says in the newspaper 761765;1405825506;decimation;yeah that's the underlying driver. bezzle -> real estate values -> suddenly life is unaffordable for the peasants 761766;1405825683;asciilifeform;decimation: if you think a senator - or entire senate - can ban the use of coolies - i've a bridge to sell. 761767;1405825701;asciilifeform;!up hanbot 761768;1405825745;asciilifeform;the real estate mafia would dearly love such a ban - but even they cannot make it happen. 761769;1405825817;decimation;one would think that the voters would be against the dilution of their own power 761770;1405825824;asciilifeform;lol. 761771;1405825830;decimation;but this is a case of the deer kneeling in front of the hunter 761772;1405825956;asciilifeform;i for one don't give even a basic fuck whether microshit employees can live in mansions - or in specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom. 761773;1405826000;decimation;there were plenty of the early ones who cashed in on bezzle money - real estate prices are not cheap around bellingham 761774;1405826050;asciilifeform;pyramids happen. 761775;1405826069;decimation;according to mircea's theory, the us voter want to emulate their soviet brothers - turn themselves into the third world gulag so that they can be a somebody 761776;1405826113;asciilifeform;since mp seems to be on a bit of a dan mocsny kick, let's channel herr mocsny: 761777;1405826114;asciilifeform;'I dont have to write that I want millions of chickens to be brutally murdered. I can buy all the dead chickens I want at the grocery. When advocating a policy that requires violence for its implementation, it is rarely necessary to advocate the violence. Once people agree to implement the policy, the necessary violence will be forthcoming.' 761778;1405826144;asciilifeform;the idiots want to 'matter.' the gulag will be forthcoming. no one needs to ask for it. 761779;1405826158;decimation;even if they are technically free to do otherwise, they are not free. 761780;1405826659;decimation;"they are not free" << I mean that they lack the will to do otherwise, making their "rights" and "freedoms" as useful as toliet graffiti 761781;1405826681;decimation;http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/#footnote_0_44044 "You probably know of it through the ulterior, bastardized, middle-class morality of ?no politics at the dinner table?. In practice, people were gathered around the table because they had business together, and the bourgeois do not wish to have higher considerations possibly interfere with their stuffing of the gullet, so they adapted an old 761782;1405826683;assbot;In re “Philosophy : Freedom of scientific information” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 761783;1405826683;decimation;rule for new needs" 761784;1405826765;decimation;ie as long as the peasants are fat, dumb & happy they don't give a shit what the remote lords might wish, even if on paper the peasants are in charge 761785;1405827730;mircea_popescu;benkay yeah. 761786;1405827754;mircea_popescu;hanbot: 761787;1405827754;mircea_popescu;danke. so preet bharara finally lost a case http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/business/Rengan-Rajaratnam-case-shows-limits-of-insider-trading-laws.html << fucking douches. no, it shows the limits of the fucking corrupt us government. 761788;1405827757;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 761789;1405827793;mircea_popescu;this "we got the courts rigged so you gotta say you did what we say you did and then go to siberia" bs only goes as far as it goes. 761790;1405827847;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: mpex modem << as i recall, reliability of net connection is not an issue at mpex << so far that's the part that works best. 761791;1405827934;mircea_popescu;hanbot:well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher << i agree. half meter cube, ideal robot. 761792;1405827987;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means << 'random' is simply a non-scientific qualifier. like 'big'. << looking forward to reading medicine treatises in similar terms. something tells me teh colonies will soon deliver. 761793;1405828088;decimation;why would usg bother with the minor part of the little brother anyway 761794;1405828241;artifexd;[]bot appears to be down. I'm out of the country. Can't fix it until I get back next week. Sorry folks. 761795;1405828433;mircea_popescu;artifexd aite 761796;1405828435;mircea_popescu;decimation hm ? 761797;1405828517;decimation;the rengan rajaratnam dude 761798;1405828535;decimation;"It seems unlikely that he?d have been hired at Galleon were he not Raj Rajaratnam?s brother. Even then, his older brother demoted him several times and he made less money there than some secretaries." 761799;1405828536;dub;!isitdown mpex.co 761800;1405828613;mircea_popescu;it's down. 761801;1405828645;mircea_popescu;"That seems to have been the end of the courtship. (Mr. Palecek died from an infection in 2010.)" << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous. seriously, work for supposedly the masters of the country, best paid job, corridors of power, die of "an infection" ? 761802;1405828714;decimation;yeah that was amusing too 761803;1405828720;decimation;I guess they ran out of nailguns 761804;1405828756;benkay; well exactly. something bound by accidental inhalation on the lower end and hernias on the higher // 6-8 axis arm on an actuated sphere. hernias not an issue, follows one around. 761805;1405828852;decimation;mircea this insider trading thing is relevant to your post I linked above. information doesn't want to be free, but who gets to decide if it is secret? 761806;1405828892;Vexual;those that have it 761807;1405828898;mircea_popescu;that problem is a lot worse than anyone wants to admit. 761808;1405828906;benkay;mircea_popescu: well keep la serenissima posted 761809;1405828917;mircea_popescu;there's simply no logical way to reconcile the naive want for "fairness" with the practicality of trade. 761810;1405828934;mircea_popescu;"insider trading" is what trading is. irrespective of what people who don't trade wish to think trading is. 761811;1405828967;mircea_popescu;much like you know, trying to prosecute "buggery" because people who don't have sex don't want to think of sex in terms of "all holes, dp and your girlfriend". as if. 761812;1405829022;decimation;yeah what is trading without "insider" knowledge? trades based on an account's report and a brochure? 761813;1405829031;hanbot;is there a logical way to reconcile the naive want for "fairness" with -anything-? 761814;1405829033;decimation;I can't imagine a way to be more ignorant about a business and its prospects 761815;1405829040;mircea_popescu;benkay so far fighting with the obscurity of free and open source software, which is this endless bundle fifty million lines long that nobody ever read, in spite of you know, how "open source" etc. 761816;1405829090;mircea_popescu;decimation now granted, what the indians are doing in the us finance (btw, have you noticed how few 3rd generation americans are involved in anything worth the mention ?) is nothing short of scandalous 761817;1405829120;mircea_popescu;however, the solution is emphatically NOT to try and prosecute them, because this just drives the specific behaviours enshrined in indian culture that cause the mess. 761818;1405829143;mircea_popescu;the solution is to open the whole thing, let the market drive it down to zero, then you won't care someone made fifty bucks or w/e. 761819;1405829155;decimation;and note that Mr. Bharara is also one of them... 761820;1405829174;mircea_popescu;yeah. it's that whole "italian mobster turned policeman to clean up ny" story all over again 761821;1405829186;mircea_popescu;(which was the same cca 1890, except then it was irish criminal etc) 761822;1405829204;decimation;in my undergrad it was assumed knowledge that the indians got together to "strategize" on exam-taking 761823;1405829244;decimation;in India, it would probably be expected for a Brahmin C-suite guy to tell a fellow Brahmin trader what is going on 761824;1405829252;benkay;mircea_popescu: that nobody ever read // it's p lulzy people still buy that 761825;1405829266;mircea_popescu;what, you mean ? 761826;1405829335;benkay;see: openssl 761827;1405829361;benkay;jaspersoft 761828;1405829364;benkay;puppet 761829;1405829540;benkay;mircea_popescu: die of "an infection" ? // i prefer the interpretation where the us is always on the verge of horrific viral outbreaks due to decades of antibacterial abuse 761830;1405829556;decimation;'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)' 761831;1405829659;mike_c;any audiophiles around here? my headphones of 15 years finally bit the dust. 761832;1405829675;decimation;benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/superbug-stalked-nih-hospital-last-year-killing-six/2012/08/22/5be18b1a-ec66-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html 761833;1405829676;assbot;Superbug stalked NIH hospital last year, killing six - The Washington Post 761834;1405829699;Vexual;micey: buy speakers 761835;1405829713;mike_c;not so good for the office. 761836;1405829718;Vexual;fuck the offic 761837;1405829722;mike_c;or for sleeping babies. 761838;1405829726;decimation;my sennheiser HD280's studio monitors work very well 761839;1405829735;Vexual;er.. what decimation said 761840;1405829764;mike_c;although i agree with the office. my office neighbors annoy me often enough. 761841;1405829779;decimation;do you want to attenuate the surrounding noise? 761842;1405829794;mike_c;nah 761843;1405829808;mike_c;i mean, i don't need cancelling. i don't want to hear surrounding noise. 761844;1405829819;decimation;I find earbuds and the like extremely uncomfroatble, you aren't going to get better quality than bigass headphones 761845;1405829826;hanbot;mike_c imo etymotic earphones rule all. 761846;1405829841;decimation;hanbot did you get them custom fit 761847;1405829856;hanbot;decimation nope 761848;1405829894;mike_c;are those buds? i'm looking more for over-ear. 761849;1405829911;decimation;yeah those are earbuds that block sound 761850;1405829913;hanbot;buds, yeah. 761851;1405829917;decimation;better than any headphone will 761852;1405829957;decimation;I'm a sennheiser fanboi, but I'm sure there are other quality headphones out there. examine the spec sheet 761853;1405829965;cazalla;i love my m50s 761854;1405829985;mike_c;cazalla: ath m50? 761855;1405829991;cazalla;m50s 761856;1405830027;cazalla;m50 has coiled cable which i don't like, m50s does not 761857;1405830055;mike_c;that just personal preference? my dead ones had coiled and i kinda did like that. 761858;1405830089;cazalla;yeah, makes no difference to audio afaik 761859;1405830092;mircea_popescu;hanbot no, not as such. the traditional way is for the naive to train their submission, as practiced in say india. 761860;1405830109;mike_c;cool. thanks for the suggestions. 761861;1405830114;mircea_popescu; 'don't talk politics around the table (so we can just eat)' -> 'don't question the code(so we can just use it)' << ;/ 761862;1405830121;mircea_popescu;cause fuck you if you have uncommon needs, right ? 761863;1405830134;mircea_popescu;the whole fucking point of code is to make the world more like salem cca 1700 now ;/ 761864;1405830166;mircea_popescu;mike_c mice don't actually attack babies. you're thinking rats. 761865;1405830184;mike_c;lol, what? 761866;1405830186;mircea_popescu;o nm, earphones lol. i misread. 761867;1405830206;mircea_popescu;Vexual got me i swear! 761868;1405830228;Vexual;it's mouses 761869;1405830248;mike_c;now rats to attack office neighbors.. that would be an idea. 761870;1405830265;mircea_popescu;specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom. <<< ahaha ok. 761871;1405830281;mircea_popescu;mike_c armored battlerats! with a terminal upside the head! 761872;1405830290;dub;my dj1200 are not that comfortable for long but they are hard to kill 761873;1405830304;dub;long periods 761874;1405830308;mike_c;definitely need comfort for hours. 761875;1405830323;Vexual;are those insertable or over ear dub? 761876;1405830384;dub;http://turntablelab.com/products/technics-rp-dj1200-headphones-black-deadstock 761877;1405830385;assbot;Technics: RP-DJ1200 Headphones - Black (Deadstock) — TurntableLab.com 761878;1405830395;mike_c;fucking amazon needs to take btc already. i bought some fiverr shit the other day with btc and it was so smooth. kind of changed my opinion on using btc for random purchases. 761879;1405830406;dub;good for lugging around 761880;1405830474;decimation;man the spec sheets for headphones suck 761881;1405830484;dub;the ear pad rubber is perishing on mine which is quite astounding considering how briefly every other set I've owned has survive 761882;1405830487;dub;d 761883;1405830515;mike_c;my sony mdr's ear pad rubber lasted about 5 years on average 761884;1405830533;mircea_popescu;apparently i'm getting a fucking fever. 761885;1405830557;mircea_popescu;mike_c they dun wanna end up with a bunch of terrorist bux 761886;1405830569;Vexual;kill it with half a bottle of red and go to sleep 761887;1405830571;decimation;or insider bux 761888;1405830587;mike_c;terrorist bux are as green as everybody elses. 761889;1405830603;mike_c;wait, is that a saying in other countries? your money probably isn't green. 761890;1405830630;dub;its usually a mix 761891;1405830630;Vexual;100's are 761892;1405830649;dub;murican folding is fucking retarded in that aspect 761893;1405830661;dub;every note looks the same 761894;1405830674;decimation;well and worthless $1 are still bills 761895;1405830677;mike_c;i can't stand bills of different size. such a pain to roll. 761896;1405830721;dub;lol 761897;1405830743;dub;bitches don't know about mike_c's pimp roll 761898;1405830750;mike_c;it's phat 761899;1405830828;mircea_popescu;mike_c makes it quite impossible to get the wrong change. 761900;1405830846;mike_c;paying attention fixes that problem too 761901;1405830922;mircea_popescu;once you get the bitches you have no attention to spare. 761902;1405830934;mike_c;hehe. that's why i stick with one. 761903;1405830939;dub;3rd world money tends to either be shit quality or stay in circulation long enough to wear any markings off 761904;1405830946;mircea_popescu;so basically the equal size bills are anti-slut. 761905;1405830955;mircea_popescu;DOWN WITH AMERICA 761906;1405831013;mike_c;no way. ben lawsky is going to make america the center of btc bizness 761907;1405831036;decimation;I would like to see the basis of his regulation 761908;1405831045;decimation;like, how is bitcoin different than plain speech? 761909;1405831068;decimation;if it isn't different, how is it legal for the government to regulate it, state or federal? 761910;1405831105;Vexual;afik aust was the first to deploy polymer banknotes 761911;1405831112;mike_c;idk.. ever since 9/11 the goverment just regulates whatever the fuck it wants. 761912;1405831118;decimation;if there's an exception for "game" currencies, how does one demonstrate that bitcoin is demonstrably different than a "game" currency? 761913;1405831125;decimation;lol more like ever since lincoln 761914;1405831125;mircea_popescu;decimation you don't need basis for regulation. 761915;1405831135;mircea_popescu;that's why regulation is taking over legislation as a normative process. 761916;1405831154;Vexual;fucking giuliani 761917;1405831179;mircea_popescu;decimation anyway, one doesn't "demonstrate". one claims, and prays nobody calls the bluff. 761918;1405831196;mircea_popescu;which is why the 100% conviction-through-plea-bargain system is so important. 761919;1405831249;mike_c;this doesn't work quite as well with companies. Lyft is testing this in NYC by blatantly ignoring all their regulations and fighting the state in court. 761920;1405831261;mike_c;results TBD 761921;1405831295;mircea_popescu;but anyway. the 2012 peg in the eye of the beast has been holding out splendidly well. they're trying to enact this difference between game currencies and bitcoin, and who knows, maybe it'll work. who;s to say that's the last peg trilema go. 761922;1405831297;mircea_popescu;got* 761923;1405831326;mircea_popescu;mike_c it exactly. 761924;1405831396;*;dub got some good news today 761925;1405831417;dub;won a 17 year olf legal battle 761926;1405831423;dub;old* 761927;1405831430;mike_c;nice. congrats. 761928;1405831437;dub;bad news is $200k legal bill 761929;1405831453;decimation;the layers upon layers of outlandish claims fossilize into a hardened mess - nothing can change the status quo - until the whole thing fractures and breaks in a massive earthquake 761930;1405831465;decimation;ie fragile, not robust or anti-fragile 761931;1405831496;mircea_popescu;dub divorce ? 761932;1405831521;Vexual;Go Around! 761933;1405831522;dub;no 761934;1405831558;Vexual;er that was for the fossilized mass, not dubs divorce 761935;1405831561;mircea_popescu;anyway, one of the comparatively more important btc valuations is, "cost incurred by the usg litigating per btc available to defendant". 761936;1405831578;mircea_popescu;definitely more important than derpstamp or w/e. and this is pretty hefty as we sit now. 761937;1405831612;mike_c;cazalla: m50x has detachable cable and you get coiled and straight. everybody wins. 761938;1405831662;decimation;mircea: the usg tends to maximally claim & minimally deliver 761939;1405831721;decimation;if bitcoin goes up another one or two orders of magnitude in dollar value, it will be that much worse for the usg to do anything 761940;1405831786;Vexual;mike_c get rabbit fur bads for extra boss 761941;1405831831;decimation;my sennheisers have detachable cables too, although the oem cable was crap - conductors broke after awhile 761942;1405831832;mike_c;they actually have velvet ones. http://www.amazon.com/ATH-M50-PADS-Velvet-pads-ATH-M50-headphones/dp/B00GTR2ICQ 761943;1405831833;assbot;Amazon.com: ATH-M50-PADS - One Pair Black Velvet ear pads for ATH-M20x, ATH-M30x, ATH-M40x, ATH-M50, ATH-M50s, ATH-M50RD, ATH-M50WH, ATH-M50x, ATH-M50xBL, ATH-M50xWH: Electronics 761944;1405831862;decimation;according to their spec sheet, the ath m50's only go down to 15 hz, the sennehiser hd280's go down to 8 Hz 761945;1405831875;decimation;that's going to be more audible than whatever the top frequency in the ultrasonic band is 761946;1405831943;mike_c;hm. ath has lower impedance. 761947;1405831952;decimation;human hearing being a logrithmically spaced filter bank and all 761948;1405831963;decimation;impedance is a matter of what you are connecting with 761949;1405831988;mike_c;yeah. won't matter for computer. 761950;1405831999;mike_c;could matter for phone? 761951;1405832014;mike_c;probably not. 761952;1405832015;decimation;my guess is no 761953;1405832032;decimation;impedance actually varies with frequency, which no one gives a spec for 761954;1405832051;decimation;in a basic sense, impedance mismatch will just lower the effective power delivered to the headphones 761955;1405832055;decimation;so turn them up, etc 761956;1405832073;mike_c;right, phone can only deliver so much though. but probably enough for either. 761957;1405832100;decimation;https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4388969?start=195&tstart=0 761958;1405832102;assbot;iPhone 5 headphone volume too low | Apple Support Communities 761959;1405832117;decimation;"The issue as I understand it is that the output impedance of the iPhone 5 is around 3.7 ohms whereas the older phones and iPods are around 5.5 ohms. What is not clear is whether this has been changed by software or by hardware. There are reports that this is an issue in the EU region only. Yet some folk in the USA are also complaining." 761960;1405832130;decimation;so either headphone is going to have an impedance mismatch 761961;1405832157;decimation;because apple has neither the room on their board or the inclination to deliver studio quality audio 761962;1405832224;decimation;if you think about it, headphones that block surrounding audio will increase the effective signal/noise ratio delivered to your ears 761963;1405832294;mike_c;decisions.. 761964;1405832308;Vexual;just buy the 50s you wally 761965;1405832338;decimation;I suspect the average listening would be unable to differentiate most of these headphones in a blind test 761966;1405832348;decimation;s/listening/listener 761967;1405832375;Vexual;get the velvet, and if you get too stoned you can hide in the curtains 761968;1405832394;mike_c;yeah.. sennheiser doesn't have velvet. 761969;1405832401;decimation;if you are going to use them for 8 hours per day in the office, comfort is probably more important than audio quality 761970;1405832417;mike_c;it is, but that is difficult to know before trying for 8 hours 761971;1405832488;decimation;indeed, I guess the solution is buy one and sell it on craigslist if it sucks 761972;1405832501;Vexual;for $120 try a fresh set 761973;1405832505;mike_c;yes. or return it. 761974;1405832508;dub;the solution is dont work in an office 761975;1405832520;mike_c;i like working in an office. fewer distractions. 761976;1405832574;decimation;I find comfortable headphones with classical music encourage focus 761977;1405832602;mike_c;i find the same with electronic music. di.fm ftw. 761978;1405832616;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVdTw4PwE0 761979;1405832689;dub;boombox with gangster rap tbh 761980;1405832699;mike_c;whatever works 761981;1405832712;Vexual;ghetto blaster is best 761982;1405833115;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM1-NSVGjg 761983;1405833468;dub;heh, famous actor lives across road, pulling into my drive earlier I see another actor getting a box of beer out of his car and going inside 761984;1405833485;dub;they're now playing what looks like GTA5 on his huge ass tv 761985;1405833511;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KL9mRus19o 761986;1405833545;Vexual;lets go around with a bottle of glen fiddich 761987;1405833704;Vexual;pitch mp's idea, wich is way better than his last 761988;1405833757;cazalla;mike_c, didn't know they had an m50x, i still think i'd go the m50s due to no coil and i would likely lose the cable if i could detach it anyway 761989;1405833798;dub;fresh out of glenfiddich but I'm now sipping a glenrothes, good suggestion 761990;1405833847;cazalla;Vexual, i think aus was first, i still have some of the first abo polymer notes around somewhere 761991;1405833909;mike_c;cazalla: m50s is cheaper too, just b/c it isn't 'current year model'. sound is supposed to be the same. 761992;1405833924;cazalla;you can get the m50s for around $100 on special sometimes 761993;1405834018;Vexual;d'you keep your rabbit skins cazalla? 761994;1405834033;cazalla;no but i should 761995;1405834083;cazalla;mike_c, only thing i dislike about m50s is the soundstage is a little too small for fps gaming, i switch to my speakers when gaming but they aren't gaming headphones to begin with so isn't a big issue 761996;1405834167;mike_c;yeah, not a problem for me 761997;1405834256;mike_c;ok, i'm off to buy something and hit the sack. thanks for the help. 761998;1405834312;Vexual;beats by dre:buy 761999;1405834344;cazalla;Vexual, kill yourself 762000;1405834375;Vexual;i was joking about what mike hunt bought dick nob 762001;1405834461;cazalla;beats give you +10 swag, that's about it 762002;1405834663;cazalla;hey Vexual, you know the aussie victims of the MH17 crash, my old primary school teacher was on it 762003;1405834712;Vexual;yes i heard that 762004;1405834731;Vexual;was it some year 4 hex? 762005;1405834755;cazalla;well, he made me write lines 762006;1405834790;cazalla;had to do em again as taping 2 pencils together to write 2x was too obvious 762007;1405834868;cazalla;dunno if being asploded was warranted punishment for him though 762008;1405834888;Vexual;yeah its harsh 762009;1405834918;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y6ihWvymwg 762010;1405834971;cazalla;not my cup of tea 762011;1405834986;Vexual;sams or the music? 762012;1405835003;cazalla;music 762013;1405835017;Vexual;im not a big fan of sams 762014;1405835140;Vexual;commericail airlines flew over iraq and afghanistan for the last 10 years, this might be a proper war 762015;1405835465;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8WLYzA0lCs 762016;1405835518;cazalla;multipass 762017;1405835726;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPTlhBmwRg 762018;1405836096;benkay; benkay I think you mean bacterial outbreaks. They are already happening: // yup. been drinking all day. 762019;1405836199;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667460.msg7930421#msg7930421 762020;1405836199;assbot;Phinnaeus Gage aka ~Bruno Kucinskas - DEBT PAID 7/19/2014 762021;1405836274;Vexual;ben10: 2 beers? 762022;1405836329;benkay;uh 762023;1405836337;benkay;gosh lost count boss 762024;1405836347;Vexual;yep. 2 762025;1405836369;Vexual;dou so digital it hurts 762026;1405836438;benkay;Vexual: pm 762027;1405836534;Vexual;aight maybe 12 762028;1405836565;benkay;a few yeah 762029;1405836575;Vexual;it happens 762030;1405837279;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2NJ3dXpeY 762031;1405838408;Vexual;;;ud having a lend 762032;1405838409;gribble;http://fr.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=having%20a%20lend | An Australian term meaning to be lying to a person for one's own amusement. " He said she had an STI" "He's only having a lend of you". de ZStardust 13 février  ... 762033;1405838471;mircea_popescu;!s infinite number of arms 762034;1405838472;assbot;1 results for 'infinite number of arms' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=infinite+number+of+arms 762035;1405839525;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/ 762036;1405839526;assbot;Big numbers, random numbers and who’s got your number ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 762037;1405839634;Vexual;d'you pay .15 for 3 tits? 762038;1405839683;mircea_popescu;lol 762039;1405839759;Vexual;i dtill think a cell phne cam is an excellent source of entropy 762040;1405839804;Vexual;but, poison is the thing more than reverse anything 762041;1405839808;mircea_popescu;there's no free entropy lunch. 762042;1405839878;Vexual;excellent aritlce 762043;1405839966;mircea_popescu;glad you liked it. 762044;1405840269;Vexual;i might even understand it tomorrow; this water is giving me heartburn 762045;1405840373;Vexual;no i think i get it 762046;1405840561;mircea_popescu;!up ceger 762047;1405840640;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 327 @ 0.0028813 = 0.9422 BTC [+] {3} 762048;1405840884;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/ 762049;1405840966;jurov;yes, good article 762050;1405841004;jurov;next time i see someone reading from bones or coffee stain imma pester them whether they have tested past output for enough entropy 762051;1405841045;Vexual;entropy is irrelevantr oto these soothsaysers 762052;1405841073;Vexual;ask em something else 762053;1405841076;jurov;i daresay otherwise 762054;1405841092;jurov;they certainly seem to need some randomness source 762055;1405841098;Vexual;say away dear lamb 762056;1405841123;jurov;without it, their output could be too predictable 762057;1405841146;jurov;what would expose them to potential problem 762058;1405841399;*;jurov imagines soothsayer's ad "We use FIPS-compliant oracles" 762059;1405841813;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: you've seen Total Recall, no? 762060;1405841867;Vexual;dies the new one have 3 titites? 762061;1405841877;fluffypony;yes 762062;1405841890;fluffypony;personally I prefer the old one, but at least they kept that bit in for continuity :-P 762063;1405841894;Vexual;will watch 762064;1405841923;mircea_popescu;fluffypony the one film schwarzy made that was trying to not be hack and slash ? 762065;1405841948;mircea_popescu;jurov generally their whole claim is butressed on such past history. 762066;1405841972;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yes, otherwise known as "that movie that came out when I was 8 or 9 years old that I wasn't allowed to watch because it had a chick with 3 tits in it" 762067;1405841982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 76 @ 0.012999 = 0.9879 BTC [+] 762068;1405842002;fluffypony;but that I watched a couple of years later anyway when one of my school friends got it on VHS 762069;1405842003;mircea_popescu;which is why the warning came to be on financial products, that "past performance is no indication of future success". the fortune teller makes two spurious claims, one that his arbitrariety is systematic, the other that he has a good historical record. 762070;1405842028;mircea_popescu;the latter is easier to disprove, but the former easily sticks with people, who then form the spurious belief that everything is systematic 762071;1405842036;mircea_popescu;hence conspiracy theorists, forum investors etc. 762072;1405842047;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i was allowed to watch it. 762073;1405842052;mircea_popescu;being a yurpean rocks i guess. 762074;1405842070;Vexual;yeah buy you wer like 14 762075;1405842089;Vexual;you woulda been mean then 762076;1405842096;fluffypony;my parents let me watch all measure of stuff, but Total Recall was bad because they didn't want an 8 year old believing that girls had 3 boobs 762077;1405842119;mircea_popescu;i was allowed to watch pasolini's fucking decameron 762078;1405842329;Vexual;most 8 year olds prolly have livelank now 762079;1405842337;mircea_popescu;anyway, the baby-in-belly was the more disturbing part i thought 762080;1405842371;Vexual;tru dat 762081;1405842410;Vexual;is he in the new one ? 762082;1405842559;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMQ4ZFdH5c 762083;1405842714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 901 @ 0.00288522 = 2.5996 BTC [-] {3} 762084;1405843359;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA 762085;1405843809;BingoBoingo;!up ceger 762086;1405844605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 310 @ 0.00289631 = 0.8979 BTC [+] {3} 762087;1405844758;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/omUhB6F.png 762088;1405844786;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf5uJYGoiU 762089;1405844853;Vexual;more cowbell 762090;1405845046;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHDYfoRYcqQ 762091;1405845082;Vexual;fluffypony, your iris dna assay is in, you're 5% negroif 762092;1405845167;Vexual;you are also 20% gold 762093;1405845234;fluffypony;lol 762094;1405845237;mircea_popescu;http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BenfordsLaw.html random link of the day 762095;1405845237;assbot;Benford's Law -- from Wolfram MathWorld 762096;1405845249;mircea_popescu;in a randomly selected lit of numbers, 30% will start with 1. 762097;1405845275;mircea_popescu;it's close to 50% if you take atomic weights 762098;1405845311;mircea_popescu;!up ChesterMolester 762099;1405845322;ChesterMolester;lold 762100;1405845333;ChesterMolester;sup mircea 762101;1405845357;ChesterMolester;Come visit USA, we’ll go for pizza ;) 762102;1405845439;fluffypony;I think he's on the no fly list 762103;1405845446;ChesterMolester;lold 762104;1405845479;fluffypony;NICE TRY SEC SPY 762105;1405845565;Vexual;baloney! 762106;1405845602;mircea_popescu;ChesterMolester who're you again ? 762107;1405845611;ChesterMolester;Hasbro / JoshG 762108;1405845623;ChesterMolester;I came for the woman and stayed for the coin 762109;1405845633;mircea_popescu;lol mkay. 762110;1405845673;mircea_popescu;anyway, had enough us for a decade or two. 762111;1405845686;mircea_popescu;maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing. 762112;1405845704;fluffypony;Josh Groban? 762113;1405845828;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8 762114;1405846050;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZzNToI1tE 762115;1405846566;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IhZod5Dso 762116;1405848103;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM too soon? 762117;1405848919;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8feWhVfj1Y 762118;1405849542;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE 762119;1405850169;fluffypony;tres cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZPs7knvs7M 762120;1405850170;assbot;Real Life Holodeck with an Oculus Rift - Computerphile - YouTube 762121;1405850298;Vexual;are you getting one? 762122;1405850384;fluffypony;an Oculus Rift, or the entire research lab they have? 762123;1405850385;fluffypony;:-P 762124;1405850459;xmj;Hi world. 762125;1405850488;fluffypony;morning xmj 762126;1405850539;Vexual;a rift or 2 762127;1405850576;fluffypony;Vexual: yes definitely, hopefully when it's finally released they'll have the motion sickness stuff fixed etc. 762128;1405850582;fluffypony;the redirected walking stuff is amazing 762129;1405850582;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 762130;1405850586;xmj;when will oculus move its Rift to Google Glass dimensions (ie tiny) ? 762131;1405850773;fluffypony;Valve is working on a display that can fit in tiny dimensions - it beams the image straight on to your eyes 762132;1405850784;fluffypony;so it doesn't need big LCD screens 762133;1405850846;Vexual;does chinny get seasick? 762134;1405850995;xmj;interesting 762135;1405851024;xmj;is valve still scheduled to release a steambox that'll eventually make 2014/2015/whenever they release it/ the year of linux on the "desktop" ? :) 762136;1405851087;dub;WORD 762137;1405851088;Vexual;buy a few devkits and leave that dog fuck voin alone 762138;1405851100;Vexual;you'll make mor emoney 762139;1405851112;xmj;wwwwhat? 762140;1405851168;fluffypony;Vexual: no not at all, but I would imagine I'll use it with friends who may get motion sickness 762141;1405851190;dub;administer weed 762142;1405851210;dub;motion sickness instafix 762143;1405851233;Vexual;yeah weed 762144;1405851259;xmj;still not legal here :| 762145;1405851284;dub;quaint 762146;1405851290;Vexual;tell the judge its for virtual reality 762147;1405851337;xmj;motion sickness ===> medical purposes 762148;1405851346;Vexual;mel de mere 762149;1405851411;Vexual;take a unit into court and a fat bifter 762150;1405851462;Vexual;;;ud bifter 762151;1405851462;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bifter | Bifter. A slang term given to the lumps of rock found on ski slopes that need to be "De-Bifterd" in order to remove them. "Watch out James, there's a bifter on the ... 762152;1405851915;Vexual;benkay: never again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY 762153;1405852471;Vexual;fluffy are you making aircool racks to datatabk specs? 762154;1405852517;Vexual;r3box? 762155;1405852563;fluffypony;not to spec, just standard 19" size 762156;1405852577;fluffypony;but smaller than a standard rack since it doesn't need all the extra fluff on the sides and back 762157;1405852727;Vexual;if datatank get sucessuful they will be dumping hardware onto hobbyists on a regular basis 762158;1405853192;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdsTUfDTEhQ 762159;1405855036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.171 = 1.71 BTC [-] {4} 762160;1405855597;Vexual;mmm cutlets 762161;1405856999;cazalla;gee le happy merchant meme gets /r/bitcoin up in arms 762162;1405858813;FabianB;!mpexstatus 762163;1405858826;FabianB;$mpexstatus 762164;1405858829;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 762165;1405859456;chetty;http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/18/this-bacteria-eats-nothing-but-electricity-to-survive/ 762166;1405859457;assbot;This bacteria eats nothing but electricity to survive 762167;1405861014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 759 @ 0.00280204 = 2.1267 BTC [-] {7} 762168;1405861857;thickasthieves;<+cazalla> i love my m50s /// mike_c those are the best in that price range imo 762169;1405862043;thickasthieves;mike_c for even more value for the price, and less heavy: http://www.amazon.com/JVC-Head-band-Headphones-HA-S500-Z-Gunmetallic/dp/B008FWB9XW these won't block outside noise as much though 762170;1405862045;assbot;Amazon.com: JVC Victor Head-band Portable Headphones | HA-S500-Z Gunmetallic (Japanese Import): Electronics 762171;1405862103;thickasthieves;mike_c dont get the velvet m50 pads! 762172;1405862182;thickasthieves;the headphones really weren't designed for the velvet pads and the sound becomes obviously worse to any ear 762173;1405862317;thickasthieves;I use the JVCs for going on walks and such, and the ATs for making music and while flying 762174;1405862335;thickasthieves;I have more expensive ones and i dont really like them as much 762175;1405863637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2679 @ 0.00290035 = 7.77 BTC [+] {8} 762176;1405863759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.00291924 = 0.8466 BTC [+] {3} 762177;1405864387;thickasthieves;coindesk is teaching TA now? http://www.coindesk.com/trend-spotting-identify-trends-bitcoin-price-charts/ 762178;1405864387;assbot;Trend Spotting: How to Identify Trends in Bitcoin Price Charts 762179;1405864651;thickasthieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2b6edt/btc_guild_has_posted_the_following_notice_in/ 762180;1405864652;assbot;BTC Guild has posted the following notice in reaction to NYDFS proposal : Bitcoin 762181;1405864684;thickasthieves;"Since there is no way anybody will mine on a pool with those requirements, it means that any pool in the US will be forced to shut down, or operate illegally and hope they're ignored." 762182;1405865509;thestringpuller;dude what the fuck is even going on? All bitcoin companies are gonna vacate the US 762183;1405865660;thestringpuller;;;search bitlicense 762184;1405865660;gribble;There were no matching configuration variables. 762185;1405866168;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/9-biggest-screwups-bitcoin-history/ 762186;1405866168;assbot;The 9 Biggest Screwups in Bitcoin History 762187;1405866171;pankkake;!search bitlicense 762188;1405866172;assbot;7 results for 'bitlicense' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitlicense 762189;1405866275;thestringpuller;ugh, I guess I'm moving to France. 762190;1405866332;pankkake;lol 762191;1405866388;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ 762192;1405866389;assbot;The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 762193;1405868266;nubbins`;hi 762194;1405868761;asciilifeform;re: headphones << can't decide which i like more. 'qc20i' or firing range earplugs. 762195;1405868789;asciilifeform;qc20i works slightly better, and ear gets less tired, but it did cost ~250x more. 762196;1405868814;*;asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration. 762197;1405868819;*;nubbins` was about to ask 762198;1405868835;nubbins`;muffs would be the ideal solution 762199;1405868851;nubbins`;airport workers use -90dB ones 762200;1405868852;asciilifeform;muffs >> ick. pressure, sweat. 762201;1405868855;*;nubbins` nods 762202;1405868856;nubbins`;true 762203;1405868898;nubbins`;there's also these earplugs that some drummers use, they mold to fit your outer ear like an old-school hearing aid 762204;1405868902;*;asciilifeform owns these muffs, can't even picture trying to think in them 762205;1405868925;nubbins`;although they're more geared towards muting w/ a flat frequency curve than blocking out all sound 762206;1405868935;asciilifeform;nubbins`: had those as a student. also pressure. 762207;1405868938;nubbins`;ah 762208;1405868954;nubbins`;pascale uses the standard orange squeezey ~30dB ones 762209;1405868961;nubbins`;not great for your canals 762210;1405868997;nubbins`;you ever try white/pink noise? 762211;1405869024;asciilifeform;nubbins`: as a matter of fact, i'm surrounded by it (fans.) it's precisely what i'm trying to be rid of. 762212;1405869031;nubbins`;ah, heh. 762213;1405869060;nubbins`;standalone (speakers rather than earphones) noise cancellation system? 762214;1405869076;nubbins`;iirc some high-end car manufacturer did this with the sound system 762215;1405869109;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/cGbQfBd 762216;1405869109;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 762217;1405869116;asciilifeform;nubbins`: this only works (for some modest value of 'work') in a car 762218;1405869144;asciilifeform;where the noise is something like a point source, plenty of soft fabric to cancel echos, etc. 762219;1405869154;nubbins`;i suppose individual room configurations would make it tough to pull off in a general sense 762220;1405869181;nubbins`;you could always build a soundproof room and put the fans outside it 762221;1405869207;asciilifeform;with infinite money, sure. 762222;1405869238;nubbins`;not prohibitively expensive. musicians do it all the time 762223;1405869297;nubbins`;i have a friend who can play drums in his bedroom with the door closed and you can barely make out the beat 762224;1405869358;nubbins`;starting point: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul00/articles/faqacoustic.htm 762225;1405869359;assbot;Soundproofing & Acoustic Treatment 762226;1405869362;asciilifeform;nubbins`: we also have climate here. without forced air cooling, machines will die (of humidity) even before the owner succumbs. 762227;1405869377;asciilifeform;so one would also need to come up with a silent air conditioner. 762228;1405869392;nubbins`;dem conflicting requirements 762229;1405869563;nubbins`;we have climate of a different sort here, to the point where i can't recall ever seeing an air conditioning unit in a private home. at the risk of asking a silly question, could one have the unit outside the room and vent the cool air in? 762230;1405869582;nubbins`;(isn't this roughly what an air exchanger does?) 762231;1405869604;asciilifeform;nubbins`: this is SOP here. air conditioner for whole house. compressor and its hot coil are outdoors, heat exchanger and gigantic fan inside. 762232;1405869640;asciilifeform;air is ducted to each room 762233;1405869650;nubbins`;right, yeah, sounds familiar 762234;1405869669;nubbins`;and it's the actual noise of the air being ducted in that you're trying to eliminate? 762235;1405869673;asciilifeform;(the very shoddiest dwellings still have window air conditioners) 762236;1405869705;nubbins`;$500k home here *might* have an air conditioner :D 762237;1405869707;asciilifeform;nubbins`: i would, in principle, care, if it were possible to eliminate all other fan noise 762238;1405869825;asciilifeform;nubbins`: i've thought about building something like the 'cockpits' flight simulator players are fond of. chair with display in a 'canopy.' but it would need its own cooling setup... 762239;1405869853;nubbins`;nod 762240;1405869889;nubbins`;liquid cooling system built into chair ;D 762241;1405869987;asciilifeform;the hot air one exhales still has to go somewhere. 762242;1405870046;asciilifeform;i don't really see all of this as adding up to a solvable engineering problem, but catch myself thinking about it now and then anyway. 762243;1405870347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.01384796 = 0.8309 BTC [-] {9} 762244;1405870376;kakobrekla;* asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration. < you wear those cause model m, admit it! 762245;1405870423;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: actually i never had any problems with one-off noise (e.g. keys). because when i'm thinking i scarcely touch the keys. 762246;1405870469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 140 @ 0.01306014 = 1.8284 BTC [-] {7} 762247;1405870560;kakobrekla;aha 762248;1405870652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 817 @ 0.00299998 = 2.451 BTC [+] {3} 762249;1405870827;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: '...died from an infection in 2010... << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous' << quite likely, that fellow really died of - sleep deprivation. compromised immune system. and yes, one wouldn't expect an actual 'master of the universe' to succumb to sleep deprivation. senior bureaucrats, on the other hand - sure. 762250;1405871196;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/ << 'random-looking number' is reminiscent of the 'miasma theory' of disease causation. in fact, much of what presently passes for 'seekoority' is quite like miasma epidemiology. crock of shit, resulting not only from inability, but from unwillingness to to even contemplate cause-effect. 762251;1405871197;assbot;Big numbers, random numbers and who’s got your number ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 762252;1405871323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 66 @ 0.01281244 = 0.8456 BTC [-] {6} 762253;1405871506;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 280 @ 0.003 = 0.84 BTC [+] {2} 762254;1405871689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.01250032 = 0.8 BTC [-] {8} 762255;1405871995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79153408 BTC to 12`352 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 762256;1405872056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.04673864 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2178 satoshi per share 762257;1405872564;xmj;so, FACTA has an impact on my european union bank 762258;1405872569;xmj;even if i don't deal with US through it. 762259;1405872571;xmj;wtf? 762260;1405872997;nubbins`;!s greenhouse 762261;1405872997;assbot;4 results for 'greenhouse' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=greenhouse 762262;1405873007;nubbins`;http://www.vice.com/read/greenhouse-app-hannah-ewens-nick-rubin-201?utm_source=vicefbus 762263;1405873008;assbot;This Kid Made an App That Exposes Sellout Politicians | VICE United States 762264;1405873009;nubbins`;my sides 762265;1405873026;nubbins`;(clickbait headline but amusing nonetheless) 762266;1405873430;xmj;fluffypony: are you aware of anyone pushing Cloud as a Service? 762267;1405873502;fluffypony;Rackspace is, I think 762268;1405873542;xmj;oh, i mean the four-letter-marketing-combination 762269;1405873563;xmj;AWS/Rackspace/etc do the whole CaaS thing anyway 762270;1405873577;fluffypony;ah ok, no not offhand 762271;1405873622;xmj;I want to see how far you can push verbal boundaries into bulshytt territory. think Virtual Cloud, Virtual Enterprise Cloud Management, blabla 762272;1405873628;*;xmj chuckles 762273;1405874541;fluffypony;Virtual Cloud Enterprise Single-Sign On Management as a Service 762274;1405874548;fluffypony;VCESSOMaaS 762275;1405874569;xmj;I love that. 762276;1405874592;xmj;this will do for 300th tweet. thank you fluffypony 762277;1405874647;xmj;fluffypony: https://twitter.com/xmjEE/status/490899909839966208 762278;1405874691;fluffypony;lol 762279;1405874918;xmj;the profile page on twitter 762280;1405874923;xmj;is that your wife? 762281;1405875262;mircea_popescu;!up Basquiat_ 762282;1405875382;mircea_popescu;pankkake https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2014/07/libressl-is-taking-a-beating-and-that-s-good << all i see is more of the same, "fucktards are butthurt, how dares anyone upset the statu quo" 762283;1405875383;assbot;LibreSSL is taking a beating, and that's good | Flameeyes's Weblog 762284;1405875437;asciilifeform;'ubuntu: turns out is actually windows vista with a few custom themes.' 762285;1405875448;mircea_popescu;i have no idea who fucking asked amazon fanboi there to pass his judgement on de raadt, but i can state for teh records it wasn't me. 762286;1405875489;asciilifeform;anyone here knows de raadt in person? 762287;1405875573;asciilifeform;linked from above - the old, familiar http://www.entropykey.co.uk << still sold out, no date for next shipment (1 year + now!) 762288;1405875573;assbot;Simtec Electronics Entropy Key: USB True Random Number Generator 762289;1405875603;kakobrekla;how about never. 762290;1405875622;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: i suppose they keep the site up, for old time's sake 762291;1405875626;mircea_popescu;the better news here is that while i tried to sleep my cold off people actually got to the bottom of the whole gpg snag. hallelujah. 762292;1405875851;kakobrekla;any guesses why they stopped making them? 762293;1405875862;thestringpuller;;;calc .25 * 400 762294;1405875862;gribble;100 762295;1405876035;mircea_popescu;not enough dough in it ? 762296;1405876036;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: why they stopped making them << ft meade's shipments of diddled ARM micros held up. budget blown on coke. 762297;1405876411;chetty;http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/air-force-research-how-to-use-social-media-to-control-people-like-drones/ 762298;1405876412;assbot;Air Force research: How to use social media to control people like drones | Ars Technica 762299;1405876829;xmj;fluffypony: ping 762300;1405876849;fluffypony;oh sorry missed that 762301;1405876850;fluffypony;yes it is 762302;1405876876;xmj;I see. 762303;1405876879;xmj;fluffypony: awesome :) 762304;1405876932;fluffypony;:) 762305;1405876980;mircea_popescu;chetty gotta love how the sm people keep pumping out more articles about how essential sm is. 762306;1405877008;mircea_popescu;it'd read "cern laboratory using social media to collide large hadrons" if the movie of the week were about the cern 762307;1405877229;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, dear intelligent people stuck on reddit&co - this is you : http://trilema.com/2014/i-wasnt-going-to-actually-post-this-but/ 762308;1405877231;assbot;I wasn’t going to actually post this, but… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 762309;1405877259;mircea_popescu;you've bought into the entire sm swag just like other generations have bought in the shit offered for their consumption. guess what : the fact that you all get it only hides the fact that it's shit from you yourselves, 762310;1405877280;mircea_popescu;not from anyone else. and it doesn't even do such a good job of hiding it from you yourselves on a long enough timeline. 762311;1405877331;mircea_popescu;it's still shit, in the manner the local fair in lexington, kentucky, even if called "the flaming man", is still a very poor approximation of the actual burning man. 762312;1405877368;chetty;social media seems to do a really good job of killing social 762313;1405877371;mircea_popescu;and even if parents would much prefer their 17 yo rebelious teenager goes to the flaming man instead of the burning man, and even if they give the car with a full tank of gasoline and two small bottles of ginger ale for the former and punish the latter, 762314;1405877395;mircea_popescu;fucking lexington is still a joke, and you're going to be a joke for going there. not just in my eyes, which whatever, who cares, but in your own 60yo eyes. and that burns. 762315;1405877416;mircea_popescu;/done ranting. 762316;1405877679;mircea_popescu;social media, fucking chewing gum. what is it ? it's not social, nor is it media. it's not a food, not a liquid, basically a stationery bike for you jaw. 762317;1405877799;chetty;seems more like a cattle prod 762318;1405878011;chetty;feliz dia del amigo 762319;1405878099;mircea_popescu;o wow that exists ? 762320;1405878127;mircea_popescu;is it the day of the married man's secret homosexual friend ? like "jour de la chere amie" would be in france ? 762321;1405878548;benkay;;;ud having a lend 762322;1405878549;gribble;http://fr.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=having%20a%20lend | An Australian term meaning to be lying to a person for one's own amusement. " He said she had an STI" "He's only having a lend of you". de ZStardust 13 février  ... 762323;1405878572;benkay;;;later tell vexual no lend, but doubtful that it'd be serial. 762324;1405878573;gribble;The operation succeeded. 762325;1405879034;benkay; maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing. // empire collapse when 762326;1405879062;chetty;seems to be a sort of generic friends day, can't walk down street without hearing it today 762327;1405879129;mircea_popescu;these people can make a feast out of anything. 762328;1405879141;mircea_popescu;samba si! trabajo no! 762329;1405879155;benkay;my kind of country i tell you 762330;1405879174;mircea_popescu;lol 762331;1405879360;benkay; an Oculus Rift, or the entire research lab they have? // i can't wait for the full-wraparound displays with lots and lots of pixels 762332;1405879373;benkay;no more monitors, headsets only 762333;1405879455;benkay; ugh, I guess I'm moving to France. // oh ffs really? 762334;1405879667;chetty;http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-exchange-okcoin-launch-usd-deposits-withdrawals/ 762335;1405879667;assbot;Chinese Exchange OKCoin Launches USD Deposits and Withdrawals 762336;1405879682;chetty;The company does not plan to register for money transmission licenses in the US immediately 762337;1405880274;mircea_popescu;i thot china made btc illegal. 762338;1405880771;Oglafbot;http://oglaf.com/enlist/ 762339;1405880772;assbot;Enlist! 762340;1405880991;mircea_popescu;all these people derping about "quantum-computing-strong hashes" and whatnot are starting to get on my motherfucking nerves. yo idiots! are you aware that every rng out there actually uses some sort of quantum noise ? WHAT THE FUCK ARE HASHES GOING TO DO WHEN I KNOW ALL THE SEEDS! 762341;1405881288;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: to be fair, the machine (as described originally by r. feynman) doesn't divine history a la asimov's 'chronoscope', but merely computes certain classes of function unusually cheaply. 762342;1405881300;mircea_popescu;and you know this how ? 762343;1405881316;mircea_popescu;the rules as they are preclude its existence. that may not mean it can't exist, 762344;1405881332;mircea_popescu;but it does mean that IF it were to exist, we can't say anything about what it can't do./ 762345;1405881333;BingoBoingo;http://www.theonion.com/articles/openminded-man-grimly-realizes-how-much-life-hes-w,19273/ 762346;1405881335;assbot;Open-Minded Man Grimly Realizes How Much Life He's Wasted Listening To Bullshit | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 762347;1405881348;chetty;quantum = magic (at least vocabulary wise) 762348;1405881358;asciilifeform;let's put it slightly differently. if it's also a chronoscope, this cannot be readily inferred from feynman's hypothetical. 762349;1405881378;mircea_popescu;but feynman's hypothetical is not wholly self-contained. 762350;1405881381;mircea_popescu;if it were, we could build it. 762351;1405881396;mircea_popescu;so, i can argue that yes, it is just as readily inferred as anything else. 762352;1405881403;asciilifeform;i sorta get the flavour here. perpetuum mobile, were it build, could perhaps also cure baldness. 762353;1405881408;mircea_popescu;why not ? 762354;1405881425;mircea_popescu;the day false evaluates to true, you're nine feet tall 762355;1405881428;mircea_popescu;should you wish to be. 762356;1405881434;mircea_popescu;simply because 5 is the new 9. 762357;1405881465;asciilifeform;(setq #f #t) << actually evaluated this in a 'lisp' i wrote as a schoolboy. mega-lol. 762358;1405881486;mircea_popescu;moreover, you trying to sell my king a device to harden the fortress against perpetuum mobile which relies on the 1st law of thermo will get me to advise him to hang you. 762359;1405881488;mircea_popescu;because srsly. 762360;1405881490;asciilifeform;later found that in the original fortran, one could assign... to a constant. 762361;1405881500;mircea_popescu;yup, the old story of 4. 762362;1405881513;BingoBoingo;BitPay doubles down on marketing to Joe Six Pack http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/20/bitcoin-symbol-appear-bobby-dodd-stadium/ 762363;1405881514;assbot;Bitcoin Symbol to Appear on Bobby Dodd Stadium - Coin Fire 762364;1405881528;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo where's that one ? 762365;1405881559;asciilifeform;it's a good job that f-students can't actually break mathematics. 762366;1405881567;mircea_popescu;srsly. 762367;1405881575;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That one's some regional school. Probably sponsored because it is close not BitPay's Atlanta HQ. 762368;1405881596;mircea_popescu;this is the package maintainer's path to divinity : prevent all the f-students, masquerading as women-interest, "general public" interest etfuckingc from breaking math. 762369;1405881622;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo this is starting to look so much like classic doctom bubble burnage... 762370;1405881633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17100833 = 1.026 BTC [+] {2} 762371;1405881680;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: For sure. With one of these discovering how much was spent will be a hard problem unless they just let the number slip. 762372;1405881693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.16494445 = 1.4845 BTC [-] {4} 762373;1405881772;mircea_popescu;thanks to all the inflation, they're safe : they didn't have that much to spend anyway. i doubt anything under 1bn even registers anymore, especially after the great successes of govt contractors in the mideast. 762374;1405881835;BingoBoingo;Also not there aren't very many "Halliburton Stadiums" because the contractors that abide know lean years are possible 762375;1405881852;mircea_popescu;more like, because hb count'd give less of a shit. 762376;1405881868;mircea_popescu;it's a mpex sort of corp, not a hot topic sort of corp. 762377;1405881876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5002 @ 0.00309973 = 15.5048 BTC [+] {8} 762378;1405881910;BingoBoingo;Right, or an AT&T or another sophisticated herder of consumer cattle 762379;1405881926;BingoBoingo;Also guide to ripping on Jews as a good libertard http://this-is-not-jewish.tumblr.com/post/34344324495/how-to-criticize-israel-without-being-anti-semitic 762380;1405881927;assbot;This Is Not Jewish (How to Criticize Israel Without Being Anti-Semitic) 762381;1405881937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00309966 = 0.9299 BTC [-] {2} 762382;1405882156;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://youtu.be/rR56uNg2XQs?t=2m43s << finally found the ancient cartoon with the schooltard who zaps all of history so he doesn't have to pass exam. 762383;1405882157;assbot; ( 2) () - YouTube 762384;1405882256;Pierre_Rochard;I wouldn’t describe GT as a “regional school”: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/subject-ranking/subject/engineering-and-IT 762385;1405882256;assbot;Top 50 engineering & technology universities - Times Higher Education 762386;1405882490;BingoBoingo;Pierre_Rochard: It seems that list strengthens the case of it as a regional school when it comes to Athletics. 762387;1405882577;Pierre_Rochard;Eh, they are in NCAA Division I. 762388;1405882586;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform omfg, it's got BEK! pankkake you sly dog. 762389;1405882592;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: here’s what “regional” generally means: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2013/09/09/frequently-asked-questions-2014-best-colleges-rankings#11 762390;1405882593;assbot;Frequently Asked Questions: 2014 Best Colleges Rankings - US News 762391;1405882626;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: bek ? 762392;1405882628;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard so basically it's the georgia tech stadium ? 762393;1405882638;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform bek! 2:48 762394;1405882652;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: yup, seats 55k http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Dodd_Stadium_at_Historic_Grant_Field 762395;1405882653;assbot;Bobby Dodd Stadium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 762396;1405882667;mircea_popescu;aha. 762397;1405882686;BingoBoingo;Rather small for a college football stadium 762398;1405882705;asciilifeform;'век' == 'century' 762399;1405882711;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: agreed, my alma mater seated 100k. 762400;1405882718;Pierre_Rochard;seats* 762401;1405882803;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform shhh :p 762402;1405882853;BingoBoingo;Pierre_Rochard: Regionalness is an attribute that can feature differently on Aspects of a University. Consider a school in the opposite situation, Texas Tech. National University in athletics and very regional school academically. 762403;1405882879;mircea_popescu;http://this-is-not-jewish.tumblr.com/post/34344324495/how-to-criticize-israel-without-being-anti-semitic <<< ahahah, "don't use what happens to be the largest, oldest and generally speaking most important european meme, because it may butthurt jooz" 762404;1405882879;assbot;This Is Not Jewish (How to Criticize Israel Without Being Anti-Semitic) 762405;1405882912;mircea_popescu;this is the most preposterous shit i ever read. hey, fifty million jewish people ? about a billion people happen to not give a shit. this is how it should be. 762406;1405882925;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: agreed 762407;1405882931;mircea_popescu;ima end up persecuting fucking jews as the initiators of this "vocal minority trying to opress majority" meme. 762408;1405882963;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: I guess we’re just using different definitions of “regional”, the one that’s “bachelor + master” is more commonly used 762409;1405882993;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard i originally thought it's a highschool/municipal sort of stadium for some reason. 762410;1405883049;mircea_popescu;"Dont call Jews you agree with the good Jews. Imposing your values on another group is not okay. Tokenizing is not okay. Appointing yourself the judge of what other groups can or should believe is not okay." << omfg. this is about as offensive as it gets. 762411;1405883063;Namworld;So I have this cat I just adopted. He's always following me around and tend to lay down at my feet. Won't let me sleep, walking on me and trying to get under the sheets. So I close the door to the bedroom. Then shortly later, I hear the cat and look. He's inside the room playing. I think wtf, must have slipt back in while I was closing the door. I go put him out, close the door, go back 762412;1405883063;Namworld;to bed. Noises in the room. I look, he's back in the room. 762413;1405883065;mircea_popescu;appointing yourself the judge of all fucking creation is the point of life. 762414;1405883072;BingoBoingo;Pierre_Rochard: There's a lot of small shit schools getting on the doctoral train trying to escape their regional labels, so it is best not to use bachelor+masters as a measure. That and there are Bachelors (sometimes + masters) schools that are better candidates for escaping regionalness than some shitholes like Ohio State. 762415;1405883089;mircea_popescu;Namworld got a hole in your roof ? 762416;1405883096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 796 @ 0.00309999 = 2.4676 BTC [-] {2} 762417;1405883113;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: I agree, “national research university” has gotten diluted. 762418;1405883118;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU6RpNugTfg 762419;1405883119;assbot; (At the Back Desk) episode 2, English subs - YouTube 762420;1405883122;asciilifeform;^ english subs 762421;1405883124;asciilifeform;for aficionados 762422;1405883132;Namworld;Basement appartment. 762423;1405883157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 173 @ 0.0031539 = 0.5456 BTC [+] {2} 762424;1405883198;mircea_popescu;"Dont depict the Magen David (Star of David) as an equivalent to the Nazi swastika. The Magen David represents all Jewsnot just Israelis, not just people who are violent against Palestinians, ALL JEWS. When you do this, you are painting all Jews as violent, genocidal racists. DONT." << and for that matter, the swastika represented all germans, not just the ones involved in homicide. 762425;1405883214;mircea_popescu;so you know... stop misrepresenting the swastika as something bad just to serve your need to scapegoat imagery. 762426;1405883216;Namworld;So I wonder what kind of sorcery this is. Then I notice a service panel to pipes slightly opened. That fucker was opening the cabinet under the sink, crawled into the walls with the pipes and made it's way to the room. 762427;1405883234;mircea_popescu;Namworld ahahah i think that's a keeper :) 762428;1405883279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.00315393 = 0.7096 BTC [+] 762429;1405883339;Namworld;Well definitly. That cat would chew a door to get to me. Can hear it scratching doors to follow me. That plus always laying at my feet. It's more like a dog. 762430;1405883351;mircea_popescu;so treat it well and be happy. 762431;1405883355;mircea_popescu;maybe one day a woman does the same. 762432;1405883841;Namworld;All I need now is to find it a name, eh. 762433;1405884254;mircea_popescu;you could call it brock. 762434;1405884266;mircea_popescu;on the strength of the similarity in behaviour. 762435;1405884283;BingoBoingo;Lol sneaking into bedrooms 762436;1405884299;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0SSCNR5.txt ) 762437;1405884299;BingoBoingo;!b 3 762438;1405884338;Namworld;Who? 762439;1405884376;BingoBoingo;The FOundation guy 762440;1405884415;asciilifeform;sounds like the ideal cat. deserves a respectable name. 762441;1405884500;BingoBoingo;OMG BUllet point #2 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtAmSI5CQAA4AY7.jpg 762442;1405884591;mircea_popescu;decentralized key generation ? 762443;1405884599;mircea_popescu;what's this, a way to reduce key entropy to breakable levels ? 762444;1405884625;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: probably some crackpot m-of-n scheme again 762445;1405884935;mircea_popescu;"have a 4096 rsa key made out of 8 parts! it may not be as strong as the proper key, but that's good : if you forget your passphrase you can break the key and retreive your stuff!" 762446;1405884945;asciilifeform;lol 762447;1405884960;mircea_popescu;"also only terrorists would do this unauthorisedly." 762448;1405884986;mircea_popescu;"and it's illegal to not let us do illegal shit when we want to anyway, so." 762449;1405885108;BingoBoingo;;;calc 4096/8 762450;1405885109;gribble;512 762451;1405885121;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this isn't how it works. 762452;1405885156;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: if you know ~1 in 4 bits, you can trivially break. 762453;1405885279;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, it COULD be designed as a concatenation somehow, thus actually retaining 500ish bits. maybe. 762454;1405885300;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It's hard to predict derpitecture 762455;1405885319;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: there are published recipes for this. see 'multi-party computation' literature. 762456;1405885349;mircea_popescu;yeah just dun know how far i'd trust it. 762457;1405885360;asciilifeform;but there is virtually never any good reason to attempt it. 762458;1405885408;asciilifeform;for one thing, in most cases a plaintext exists, and who can know where and in how many copies. 762459;1405885584;BingoBoingo;http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2014/06/memory-management-in-c-and-auto.html?showComment=1404216537390#c910627546852979802 762460;1405885584;assbot;Insane Coding: Memory management in C and auto allocating sprintf() - asprintf() 762461;1405885697;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 762462;1405885755;decimation;I was thinking about the "poisoned soup" model of determining the "randomness" of some numbers 762463;1405885774;decimation;it seems to me that if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tell whether the numbers were random or not 762464;1405885790;decimation;any source of finite entropy would eventually exhaust 762465;1405885796;asciilifeform;decimation: if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tip it over and drown the enemy. 762466;1405885813;decimation;heh yeah my point is of academic interest only 762467;1405885835;thickasthieves;"The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit." 762468;1405885844;decimation;although, the first practical test of any source of random numbers is to get a large quantity of them and see if there are any repeats 762469;1405885856;asciilifeform;decimation: the real lesson (which always seemed rather obvious to me, but what the hell) is that the numbers are uninteresting except in so far as they shed light on the mechanics of the source 762470;1405885900;decimation;indeed, and some of source must shine through with a mechanical generator 762471;1405886141;decimation;re: headphone "muffs": I used these sometimes in the office: http://support.radioshack.com/support_electronics/doc67/67054.htm (330-1198) 762472;1405886141;assbot;Racing Scanners: Frequently Asked Questions and Listening Tips 762473;1405886153;decimation;but after about 3 hours it feels like you have your head in a vise 762474;1405886156;benkay; http://oglaf.com/enlist/ // WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS 762475;1405886157;assbot;Enlist! 762476;1405886203;BingoBoingo;benkay: Twas I. It is a manual bot. 762477;1405886214;benkay;hahaha excellent 762478;1405886277;Oglafbot;Hello benkay 762479;1405886294;benkay;i don't watch nicks/joins/parts 762480;1405886314;benkay;i've not customized this irc client to both show those things but not display notifications for them 762481;1405886325;BingoBoingo;benkay: For a thing that updates weekly it seems the optimum haw to handle feed generation 762482;1405886326;decimation;what proxy bot do you guys use generally? 762483;1405886365;benkay;curse of emacs - it can behave any way you want it to, provided you put the time in to make it so. 762484;1405886392;benkay;decimation: emacs running on a vps, mosh for flaky mobile connections 762485;1405886408;decimation;interesting, you use ERC to host proxy? 762486;1405886572;mircea_popescu;so it turns out that ssh specifies ports with -p, but scp specifies ports with -P and -p is something else entirely. 762487;1405886579;mircea_popescu;that's half an hour i'm never getting back. 762488;1405886585;mircea_popescu;!up sheldonthomas 762489;1405886604;sheldonthomas;just swinging by wondering why mpex.co is down 762490;1405886623;sheldonthomas;or is it just some tacit geoip blocking 762491;1405886624;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas you can start here http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/ 762492;1405886625;assbot;MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 762493;1405886630;fluffypony;the owner was arrested and deported to Argentina 762494;1405886641;sheldonthomas;sheesh you can’t be serious 762495;1405886655;fluffypony;I believe they're about to start waterboarding him 762496;1405886660;fluffypony;the Argentinians are rough 762497;1405886666;mircea_popescu;fluffypony teaboarding actually. 762498;1405886672;fluffypony;werd 762499;1405886674;mircea_popescu;im so fucking full of camomille i could burst. 762500;1405886675;decimation;yeah I've been hit by that ssh/scp thing many times, enraging 762501;1405886684;mircea_popescu;decimation just... why the fuck you know ? WHY!11 762502;1405886695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00300504 = 3.005 BTC [-] {5} 762503;1405886706;decimation;turn the screwdriver clockwise screw turns, turn it counterclockwise and it explodes 762504;1405886711;mircea_popescu; any source of finite entropy would eventually exhaust << this breaks physics. 762505;1405886753;mircea_popescu;one of the core (if unknown) principles underscoring all creation is that the qty of entropy in a system remains the same if it's cut in half. 762506;1405886759;mircea_popescu;it may not be as accessible now, but it's there. 762507;1405886773;mircea_popescu;this is fundamentally why reductive (and most not-so-reductive) physicalism does not work. 762508;1405886782;mircea_popescu;and about as close as one can get to physically proving divinity. 762509;1405886797;decimation;indeed, it makes determinism persuasive 762510;1405886824;mircea_popescu;no, the contrary. in the quest to make determinism infeasible, it requires some sort of entropy reservoir outside-the-world. 762511;1405886838;mircea_popescu;basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls. 762512;1405886838;sheldonthomas;six drives are bricked huh 762513;1405886872;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas anyway, that was then. meanwhile a lot of progress'been made (notices of which scattered all over the log), and we're coming out of da woods. 762514;1405886875;mircea_popescu;!s mpex 762515;1405886876;assbot;24646 results for 'mpex' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex 762516;1405886918;sheldonthomas;what’s to be expected when you finish the migration? everything back in place, accounts and the like? 762517;1405886918;BingoBoingo;http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/20/will-regulations-shutdown-pools/ 762518;1405886920;assbot;Will Regulations Shutdown Pools? - Coin Fire 762519;1405886930;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas yes. 762520;1405886959;mircea_popescu;new mpex key, but otherwise nothing much. 762521;1405887078;decimation;I guess I was picturing "determinism" as "God sets the outcome of the quark-dicerolls in the way He sees fit" 762522;1405887084;sheldonthomas;disappointing, albeit understandable 762523;1405887092;mircea_popescu; "The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit." << hey asciilifeform look at that! what was gulag, 50mn ? 762524;1405887154;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas what's disappointing you mean ? 762525;1405887170;mircea_popescu;decimation a ok, then yes, pure determinism. 762526;1405887179;sheldonthomas;this downtime 762527;1405887194;mircea_popescu;obviously if one applied the same standards to quarks as it does to bitcoins, one could never trust the fucking quark. obviously quark-nsa is behind it. 762528;1405887201;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas ah. yes. 762529;1405887218;mircea_popescu;i have this impression your name's familiar, any idea whence ? 762530;1405887303;sheldonthomas;not really. i occasionally linger on assets. maybe we met back at the bruce wager bitcoin conference. i sat in the 2nd row 762531;1405887309;sheldonthomas;*wagner 762532;1405887424;fluffypony;third seat from the left? 762533;1405887437;fluffypony;with the bushy hair and the moustache? 762534;1405887450;decimation;re: scp/ssh user interface << Herr Moldbug's rant on this topic is apropos: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/07/wolfram-alpha-and-hubristic-user.html "The error is that control interfaces must not be intelligent. Briefly, intelligent user interfaces should be limited to applications in which the user does not expect to control the behavior of the product. If the product is used as a tool, its interface should be as 762535;1405887453;assbot;Unqualified Reservations: Wolfram Alpha and hubristic user interfaces 762536;1405887453;decimation;unintelligent as possible. Stupid is predictable; predictable is learnable; learnable is usable." 762537;1405887527;decimation;I would note that Mr. Wolfram & co. are slowly migrating Mathmatica to be "pay us to use Wolfram Alpha in the cloud" 762538;1405887528;mircea_popescu;sheldonthomas got a wot acct ? 762539;1405887633;sheldonthomas;i’ve lost my fucking wot identity more times than i like to admit 762540;1405887668;mthreat;it's ok, your other identity will admit it for you 762541;1405887671;mircea_popescu;not so smart. 762542;1405887673;mircea_popescu;lmao 762543;1405887711;sheldonthomas;i know man. i had reviews from trades in 2011 with people like justmoon and then i lost that harddrive and thus that wot identity 762544;1405887732;sheldonthomas;mthreat so true 762545;1405887745;nubbins`;protip: offsite backups 762546;1405887983;fluffypony;or the Usagi Backup System 762547;1405888053;thestringpuller;yes usagi still has investors 762548;1405888059;thestringpuller;funny how that works 762549;1405888218;nubbins`;some guy who bought a print off me yesterday now wants to use it for his band's next album cover 762550;1405888255;benkay;;;gettrust xanthyos 762551;1405888255;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask xanthyos!~xanthyos@d-206-53-92-136.cpe.metrocast.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=xanthyos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xanthyos | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014 762552;1405888264;BingoBoingo;http://www.internetnews.me/2014/07/19/domain-registry-america-suspended-icann/ 762553;1405888264;assbot;Domain Registry Of America Suspended By ICANN 762554;1405888289;xanthyos;benkay: i'm a friend of danielpbarron 's 762555;1405888311;benkay;so i read 762556;1405888370;mircea_popescu;!up xanthyos 762557;1405888411;nubbins`;!up sheldonthomas 762558;1405888533;mircea_popescu;jesus what passes for process in the us these days. 762559;1405888536;mircea_popescu;Q : "ie. mining your competitors data to send unsolicited and misleading marketing messages isnt allowed, so if you didnt breach this clause how exactly did you send those notices?" 762560;1405888545;mircea_popescu;A : "none of your fucking business. door's that way." 762561;1405888604;thickasthieves;<@assbot> Domain Registry Of America Suspended By ICANN --- fuk ya! 762562;1405888657;thickasthieves;all the data they needed was public 762563;1405888681;thickasthieves;clients always asking me what the deal is when they get DRA letters 762564;1405888698;thestringpuller;nubbins`: so are you gonna sell him the album cover rights? 762565;1405888700;thestringpuller;lol 762566;1405888736;mircea_popescu;"I actually have been thrilled to see that finally there is movement to replace the straight access to /dev/random and /dev/urandom: Ted's patch to implement a getrandom() system call that can be made compatible with OpenBSD's own getentropy() in user space. And even more I'm happy to see that at least one of the OpenBSD/LibreSSL developers pitching in to help shape the interface. 762567;1405888736;mircea_popescu;Dropping out the egd support made me puzzled for a moment, but then I realized that there is no point in using egd to feed the randomness to the process, you just need to feed entropy to the kernel, and let the process get it normally. I have had, unfortunately, quite a bit of experience with entropy-generating daemons, and I wonder if this might be the right time to suggest getting a new multi-source daemon out." << a 762568;1405888737;mircea_popescu;sciilifeform do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? 762569;1405888739;thickasthieves;maybe DRA can move on to Namecoin 762570;1405888750;mircea_popescu;o look, irc breaks names huh. asciilifeform ^ 762571;1405888874;nubbins`;thestringpuller: blonde-dyed mullet kid with a skateboard making 40 tapes for his band 762572;1405888880;nubbins`;absolutely :D 762573;1405888944;thickasthieves;lol, so my wife has been buying these cat litter coupons on ebay for mos, free box, any size 762574;1405888952;thickasthieves;she just learned it's a fraud 762575;1405888958;BingoBoingo;do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? << I read either that or some kernel afficianado who would buy a unix pacemaker 762576;1405888981;thickasthieves;we mustve gone through like 50 boxes 762577;1405889010;nubbins`;ha 762578;1405889011;thickasthieves;she;s all embarassed 762579;1405889070;fluffypony;it's a scam as in you get no boxes? 762580;1405889073;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves i don't follow, so did the coupons yield boxes or not ? 762581;1405889134;thickasthieves;yes 762582;1405889150;thickasthieves;grcoery clerks just dont klnow its a fraud yet 762583;1405889232;BingoBoingo;OMG USG Side channel attack on TaT via Ebay-Wife interaction 762584;1405889253;mircea_popescu;uh 762585;1405889271;mircea_popescu;so wait, basically your wife used some paper altcoin to defraud grocery chains ? 762586;1405889331;fluffypony;can I buy shares in this scam? 762587;1405889337;BingoBoingo;That's what I'm reading 762588;1405889379;mircea_popescu;decimation here's more. sha1 is implemented as "sha1sum". sha256 however is implemented as "sha256". then sha512 is... "sha512sum" 762589;1405889381;mircea_popescu;fuckwits. 762590;1405889410;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nsa 'expellas furca, tamen usque recurret.' 762591;1405889463;asciilifeform;who expects people to jump into the biodiesel fermenter on their own will. 762592;1405889616;BingoBoingo;Some dude wants to turn Linux into System/z http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-management/resource-management-and-control-a-straw-proposal-for-linux.html 762593;1405889635;BingoBoingo;Or sell System/z systems 762594;1405889659;benkay;can one do merged-mining on a premined coin? 762595;1405889678;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: lol at trying to rationally monitor or quota resources on x86 box. 762596;1405889767;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I haven't read the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed to IBM advertorial 762597;1405889773;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing. 762598;1405889787;mircea_popescu;!s parachute 762599;1405889788;assbot;50 results for 'parachute' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=parachute 762600;1405889793;asciilifeform;lol 762601;1405889796;mircea_popescu;:D 762602;1405889817;mircea_popescu;dude this entire bitcoin-assets system with its tools is turning me into a fucking singularity, im like brain on steroids. 762603;1405889820;mircea_popescu;fucking love it. 762604;1405889839;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu didn't have 'grep' before ? 762605;1405890035;mircea_popescu;convenience is half the tool. 762606;1405890063;BingoBoingo;%d 762607;1405890065;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 632330.36 in 1859 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -7.98 762608;1405890654;BingoBoingo;!up moiety 762609;1405890687;moiety;you beat me :] thanks 762610;1405890707;moiety;brought you something BB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJCDa5fAWYc 762611;1405890707;assbot;Can a Thumbcat - Play Checkers? - YouTube 762612;1405890764;BingoBoingo;aw 762613;1405891025;moiety;:D i thought it was so funny 762614;1405891231;mircea_popescu;!up Fairlay 762615;1405891290;Fairlay;just wanted to apologize for user posting links to Fairlay on Bitbet 762616;1405891367;mircea_popescu;i don't imagine anyone really cares. 762617;1405891378;Fairlay;googled for Fairlay and found it in this history here 762618;1405891385;mircea_popescu;!s fairlay 762619;1405891386;assbot;4 results for 'fairlay' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fairlay 762620;1405891404;Fairlay;ok - than sorry again and goodbye 762621;1405891466;mircea_popescu;Fairlay you know, it may be a good idea to get in the wot. 762622;1405891581;Fairlay;I guess we are addressing more the new user that have never heard of WOT - since the old seems to be happy with bitbet 762623;1405891594;mircea_popescu;no but i mean for you personally. 762624;1405891602;mircea_popescu;as it is right now, you could be absolutely anyone. 762625;1405891612;the_real_fairlay;see ? 762626;1405891620;BingoBoingo;I don't rally think the Fairly comments on Bitbet really hurt BitBet at all http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2048 762627;1405891620;assbot;BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 :: 619.37 B (89%) on Yes, 74.04 B (11%) on No | closed 7 months 1 day ago 762628;1405891960;FabianB;artifexd: where is []bot btw.? 762629;1405892028;mircea_popescu;FabianB he said he's travelling and the bot croaked, can't touch till he's back 762630;1405892188;mircea_popescu;http://www.theonion.com/articles/openminded-man-grimly-realizes-how-much-life-hes-w,19273/ << the end of fucking days, when the parody sites are more truthful than the "serious" networks. 762631;1405892190;assbot;Open-Minded Man Grimly Realizes How Much Life He's Wasted Listening To Bullshit | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 762632;1405892293;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c ding me. 762633;1405892293;gribble;The operation succeeded. 762634;1405892501;decimation;yeah I've been burned by "md5sum" suddenly is "md5" on osx 762635;1405892695;FabianB;mircea_popescu: ah ic, bitcoin taking summer vacation :) 762636;1405893092;mircea_popescu;lol 762637;1405893459;benkay;thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine thing? 762638;1405893542;dub;;;isitdown mpex.co 762639;1405893543;gribble;mpex.co is down 762640;1405893551;dub;week since the last update 762641;1405893580;mthreat;mircea_popescu: there's a bitcoin meetup wednesday, at a local bar that accepts btc for drinks: http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Argentina/events/195793132/ 762642;1405893580;assbot;Charla de introduccin a Bitcoin - Meetup Bitcoin Argentina (Buenos Aires)- Meetup 762643;1405893634;benkay;say hi to diego for me mthreat 762644;1405893666;mthreat;ok (if I go) 762645;1405893677;mthreat;i've been meaning to check out that bar 762646;1405893697;benkay;dunno if he'll remember me, but it'd be cool. 762647;1405893712;benkay;;;bcstats 762648;1405893714;gribble;Current Blocks: 311728 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 751 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 16 hours, 39 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19146535925.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.44177 762649;1405893723;benkay;is there a hashpower command? 762650;1405893782;dub;there was 762651;1405893786;dub;;;nethash 762652;1405893787;gribble;148187686.346 762653;1405894295;thickasthieves;<+benkay> thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine thing? /// no, but i think it could be, and if it is, i might be willing to put some funds towards the dev, but no one wants my money so far 762654;1405894559;dub;whats atc nethash? 762655;1405894568;mircea_popescu;benkay who;'s diego ? 762656;1405894583;mircea_popescu;mthreat possibly, depending on how smoth mpex starts-up 762657;1405894595;dub;you want to be at least bigger than whatever Luke-Jr can steal before enabling mm 762658;1405894623;dub;%diff 762659;1405894625;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 644621.51 in 1847 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -6.19 762660;1405894748;mircea_popescu;mm ? 762661;1405894751;mircea_popescu;oh. 762662;1405894761;mircea_popescu;isn't atc merge mined by default ? 762663;1405894768;dub;no 762664;1405894788;benkay;thanks dub 762665;1405894841;asciilifeform;http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/extreme_system_recovery.html#update_5 762666;1405894842;assbot;Extreme system recovery (Al Viro) 762667;1405894845;benkay;mircea_popescu: http://www.xinergia.com/home/cvdiego 762668;1405894846;assbot;Xinergia 762669;1405894873;benkay; you want to be at least bigger than whatever Luke-Jr can steal before enabling mm // pardon? 762670;1405894933;thickasthieves;he means you dont wanna give bigger miners an easy excuse to fork ATC 762671;1405894940;thickasthieves;(i think) 762672;1405894957;dub;he (and atm any number of miners) will kill your chain if you turn on merged 762673;1405894973;dub;rule of thumb, be bigger than eligius 762674;1405895026;thickasthieves;Eligius Pool Hashrate: 7,879.44 Th/s 762675;1405895094;benkay;"kill your chain" what do you mean by this? 762676;1405895160;dub;with iocoin (maybe ix too) he just mined the longest chain and didnt include any transactions 762677;1405895180;benkay;what 762678;1405895181;benkay;why 762679;1405895202;dub;because his goal is/was to stamp out altcoins 762680;1405895207;thickasthieves;for jesus 762681;1405895211;dub;^ 762682;1405895220;mircea_popescu;i don't get how this is supposed to work. so he mines and doesn't include txn 762683;1405895224;mircea_popescu;other miners do include them 762684;1405895226;mircea_popescu;where's the problem ? 762685;1405895243;dub;he has 99% of the network, no other miners get to play 762686;1405895243;benkay;if you're 95% of a given network... 762687;1405895255;mircea_popescu;dub 99% of what network ? 762688;1405895259;mircea_popescu;sha mm ? 762689;1405895274;dub;he has 8th 762690;1405895299;mircea_popescu;soooo 762691;1405895323;mircea_popescu;!s atcbot 762692;1405895324;assbot;429 results for 'atcbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=atcbot 762693;1405895360;mircea_popescu;%p 762694;1405895363;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.00 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 5152.05 GH/s 762695;1405895373;mircea_popescu;that's 5th no ? 762696;1405895404;mircea_popescu;if atc mms the hash will prolly go to 1ph anyway. 762697;1405895430;dub;you'd need to get 'good' pools on board 762698;1405895459;mircea_popescu;dub but there's ALREADY 5 th on board, and these are atc dedicated, they're not merge mining. 762699;1405895474;mircea_popescu;so if you add 8th from elegius that's what, 60% for luke, provided nobody else joins. 762700;1405895476;mircea_popescu;seems improbably. 762701;1405895506;dub;you sure? at a glance the diff doesnt look right 762702;1405895513;mircea_popescu;03-07-2014 01:50:42 [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s << this is the peak this month. 762703;1405895526;dub;is that a chain hopping pool though or atc dedi? 762704;1405895531;mircea_popescu;well unless mod6 fucked up the math. 762705;1405895536;mircea_popescu;dub how does this make a diff ? 762706;1405895546;dub;it might not be on atc right now 762707;1405895551;mircea_popescu;so ? 762708;1405895563;mircea_popescu;if it's mm'd it'll certainly be on. 762709;1405895593;mircea_popescu;anyway, news at eight : luke still irrelevant. big whoop. 762710;1405895833;mircea_popescu;this situation actually allows a window be thrown into bitcoin, to understand how it works. jesus atc is useful, props tat. 762711;1405895865;mircea_popescu;so : atc is not driven by "user adoption". it's driven by the fact that i'm buying it. in this context, if "evil" entity decides to just mine all the blocks, nobody gives a shit. so txn aren't included ? whatever. 762712;1405895872;dub;you dont want to look through that window either 762713;1405895877;mircea_popescu;that entity can either sell the coins it mines, in which case they end up with me, which is what i want anyway 762714;1405895887;mircea_popescu;or keep them, in which case it's actually making the coin more valuable. 762715;1405895903;mircea_popescu;this is the situation o nthe field : one has NO FUCKING CHOICE. this is how bitcoin works, and why it wins out. 762716;1405895993;mircea_popescu;bitcoin has been enacted by the fiat of a few important people, a few years ago, exactly in the same manner. they weren't THAT important as a % of the world, but that doesn't matter : bitcoin can't be un-enacted by the fiat of much larger entities. it has a cost of x to make and 1mn x aren't enough to undo it. 762717;1405896018;mircea_popescu;compared to this, user derpage and luser derpage on -dev is about as relevant as fairies in the spring rain. 762718;1405896056;dub;the scary thing about lukes altbashing was that, at the time tycho and eutheria were cheerleading for him 762719;1405896075;dub;so right there, a 90% mining cabal 762720;1405896091;mircea_popescu;what do kids know. 762721;1405896127;dub;for it was the point where I was closest to losing trust in the system 762722;1405896155;dub;bitcoin was in the hands of 3 people 762723;1405896158;mircea_popescu;takes one guy five minutes to give a woman a child. 762724;1405896166;mircea_popescu;modern science has not yet found a way to shove it back into the womb. 762725;1405896169;dub;probably still not far off 762726;1405896177;mircea_popescu;this is the situation here. 762727;1405896198;mircea_popescu;whatever you may think of the matter, bitcoin was never in the hands of THOSE 3 people. 762728;1405896271;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: thermodynamics concerns the inevitable, rather the immediate. e.g., the japanese prolonged holdout against gunpowder. 762729;1405896280;dub;well, if you are presuming some kind of economic principle would come to your rescue, im sorry 762730;1405896291;dub;you are talking about zealots and morons 762731;1405896301;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform time has compressed since then. their ability to hold out had a lot to do with the difficulty of seafaring then, and lack of satellites. 762732;1405896315;mircea_popescu;dub so you think idiocy is extempt from gravity ? 762733;1405896354;asciilifeform;i imagine everyone who ever cracked a book is familiar with island ecosystems and their doomed flightless birds... 762734;1405896369;dub;bitcoins single defense from evil miner conspiracy is incentive 762735;1405896372;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you mean... the (actual) penguin ? 762736;1405896375;mircea_popescu;it wasn't on an island. 762737;1405896384;asciilifeform;such as it. doesn't have to be on an island, strictly speaking. 762738;1405896400;mircea_popescu;dub more's to it. as i explained to asciilifeform a while ago, it actually makes it impossible to be evil in raport to it. 762739;1405896420;mircea_popescu;and it has this major make/destroy inequality baked in, to cherry on top. 762740;1405896422;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=305 << me pontificating on related subject, some years ago 762741;1405896423;assbot;Loper OS » The Five Types of Technological Standard 762742;1405896484;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i appreciate consensus scoring under fiat. 762743;1405896505;dub;penguin is not really flightless per se 762744;1405896512;mircea_popescu;dub the old one. 762745;1405896517;asciilifeform;dub: the bird in question is 'true penguin' 762746;1405896525;asciilifeform;dub: extinct today. 762747;1405896677;mircea_popescu;anyway, the argument against merge mining atc has more to do with the value of having an actual sha competitor for bitcoin, which may well be very instructive 762748;1405896688;mircea_popescu;all the various altcoins of any description are scrypt. 762749;1405896710;asciilifeform;were there no alts prior to 'litecoin' ? 762750;1405896728;dub;well yeah, because teh sha ones have been eliminated (see above) 762751;1405896737;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform litecoin is scrypt, and yea iirc was 1st 762752;1405896754;dub;I dont think it was 762753;1405896756;mircea_popescu;dub no, just because people are a) poor and b) cluieless, in that order 762754;1405896757;pankkake;no it was not first, far from it 762755;1405896766;pankkake;don't listen to litecoiners history rewriting 762756;1405896773;mircea_popescu;pankkake we're not going to go into solidcoin and all that ? 762757;1405896784;pankkake;namecoin was there before, and litecoin isn't the first scyrpt before 762758;1405896792;mircea_popescu;o right you are, namecoin yeah 762759;1405896795;pankkake;either* 762760;1405896798;xanthyos;danielpbarron: who is better: dub or dubs? 762761;1405896803;pankkake;fairbrix tenebrix whatever 762762;1405896807;pankkake;either way: lies 762763;1405896980;mircea_popescu;o yeah, darkcoin had a "tenebrix" early run. anyway, aborted all. 762764;1405897019;BingoBoingo;In between namecoin and the Scrypt pre-mined anscestors of LTC there were a lot of other forgettable alts, many mergemined. 762765;1405897040;BingoBoingo;If I remember right CoiledCoin was the one Luke killed 762766;1405897045;mircea_popescu;actually this may be a good thing to do for a blogger : make the altcoin history chart. 762767;1405897063;mircea_popescu;major reference article, that. 762768;1405897070;asciilifeform;i distinctly recall seeing just such a chart about a year ago 762769;1405897076;mircea_popescu;link ? 762770;1405897080;asciilifeform;complete with fancy graphics, clickable zoom, etc 762771;1405897107;asciilifeform;http://mapofcoins.com 762772;1405897107;assbot;Map of coins: the history of cryptocurrencies from bitcoin to dogecoin and more 762773;1405897115;asciilifeform;^ no idea if current 762774;1405897180;mircea_popescu;doesn't load here. 762775;1405897201;mircea_popescu;"For instance, hundreds of thousands of bacteria can form daisy-chained "wires" an inch or so long, and tap seawater oxygen for energy. Such filaments can hold soil together and conduct electricity about as well as standard copper wire." << wow. 762776;1405897204;mircea_popescu;le wetware! 762777;1405897215;BingoBoingo;http://mapofcoins.com/# 762778;1405897215;assbot;Map of coins: the history of cryptocurrencies from bitcoin to dogecoin and more 762779;1405897237;mircea_popescu;http://wetwareontologies.tumblr.com/ < btw. 762780;1405897237;assbot;Wetware Ontologies 762781;1405897246;decimation;if only you could harness bacteria to grow onto circuit-board test points... 762782;1405897388;mircea_popescu;decimation the better application seems self-building, self repairing connectivity. 762783;1405897403;mircea_popescu;who said we want or actually need mesh networks implemented over radio ? 762784;1405897411;BingoBoingo;http://i.imgur.com/KJOwR4g.png 762785;1405897412;mircea_popescu;how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys 762786;1405897424;mircea_popescu;and yeah, you can destroy them. 762787;1405897432;mircea_popescu;go right ahead. 762788;1405897456;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo omfg holy shit. 762789;1405897468;mircea_popescu;for all of 2011-2013 i've been strictly ignoring alts, and look at all the time it's saved me! 762790;1405897472;BingoBoingo;Site isa javascript turd 762791;1405897474;asciilifeform;'I want to build machines to do stuff that someone "like us" wouldn't want to do, for any of the several reasons (the job is hard/boring/stinky/whatever). And once I've built them, I want people to be able to use them. Please note this last point. People and other "nature's computers", like animals and fungi, aren't supposed to be "used". In fact, all those systems spend a huge amount of resources to avoid being 762792;1405897474;asciilifeform;used. Machines aren't supposed to be like that. Machines are supposed to do what you want. Which means that both the designer and the user need to control them.' (one mr. kreinin, with whom i have a number of disagreements, some public, but good point about meatware. -- http://yosefk.com/blog/high-level-cpu-follow-up.html) 762793;1405897475;assbot;"High-level CPU": follow-up 762794;1405897539;asciilifeform;motorcycle is considerably less efficient, thermodynamically, than horse - but more popular for, imho, good reason... 762795;1405897550;mircea_popescu;i dunno asciilifeform, i hear a lot of "please use me hard master" from some of the higher order "nature's computers". 762796;1405897555;asciilifeform;lol 762797;1405897574;asciilifeform;nobody cancelled pets 762798;1405897579;mircea_popescu;anyway. someone "like us" as the author fills that symbol does not belong above ground anyway. 762799;1405897581;mircea_popescu;fucking hippies. 762800;1405897603;asciilifeform;afaik he was flaming the hippies 762801;1405897624;mircea_popescu;gay spat. 762802;1405897688;mircea_popescu;can anyone explain to me why would latency be ever so slightly more going one way through a wire than coming the oher way ? same identical endpoints. 762803;1405897727;asciilifeform;the point about 'liveware generally doesn't wanna be used' can only be appreciated by folks who tried to breed industrially useful bacteria (e.g. e. coli secreting a saleable substance) - and the problems in that business 762804;1405897795;asciilifeform;short version - bacterium isn't a sled dog. he won't work if he doesn't 'want' to. (expressed in actual flesh as the formulation: the ones without the 'work' trait - e.g. secreting dope - tend to outperform their 'useful' peers in reproduction) 762805;1405897796;mircea_popescu;"the point about women not wanting to be used can only be appreciated by rapists". DOING IT WRONG 762806;1405897823;dub;re: latency, its probably how you are measuring it 762807;1405897830;asciilifeform;the problem, in case anyone doesn't know, is presently dealt with through luck and brute force. 762808;1405897845;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform consider how eminently used e coli are in the intestines of every mammal. 762809;1405897849;dub;but you'll get all kinds of inconsistency between network stacks, hardware, drivers etc 762810;1405897855;mircea_popescu;dub same shit tho. 762811;1405897869;mircea_popescu;same parts, same software. 762812;1405897871;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: sure. symbionts. now engineer some... 762813;1405897872;dub;how sure are you? 762814;1405897883;mircea_popescu;i am sure. 762815;1405897908;dub;checked every chip? 762816;1405897909;mircea_popescu;same exact model netcards. same firmware on the netcards. 762817;1405897944;BigBitz;same cables? 762818;1405897946;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: describe briefly the geometry of the wire. 762819;1405897966;BigBitz;could just be the ASIC on the Switchports. 762820;1405897967;mircea_popescu;a U with a very long bottom ? 762821;1405897985;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: most obvious explanation is clocks. 762822;1405897985;BigBitz;or it would be your machine badly timing the latency. 762823;1405897990;asciilifeform;^ 762824;1405897995;mircea_popescu;why one or not the other. 762825;1405898003;BigBitz;clocks have a tendancy to be 'shit' 762826;1405898010;mircea_popescu;wait. fuck. 762827;1405898015;BigBitz;silicon/ASICs have a tendncy to be better than 'shit; 762828;1405898017;mircea_popescu;no two clocks work the same huh. 762829;1405898020;asciilifeform;typical quartz oscillators are rated to 2% 762830;1405898026;mircea_popescu;it's equalizing over time. hey asciilifeform ! i just got some entropy! 762831;1405898030;asciilifeform;they have some - limited - thermal compensation. 762832;1405898038;BigBitz;yup heat can fuck shit up. 762833;1405898055;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is actually a traditional means of generating 'hardware entropy' on a pc. i rediscovered it as a kid, thought i 'had something nice' 762834;1405898065;mircea_popescu;right. 762835;1405898080;mircea_popescu;well, i built a rng oscillator. go me. 762836;1405898086;asciilifeform;a traditional pc comes with at least 2 measurable oscillators (cpu crystal and 18hz real time clock) 762837;1405898119;*;asciilifeform waits for announcement of mpex plant purchasing rhubidium frequency standard 762838;1405898136;dub;rhubarbium? 762839;1405898140;mircea_popescu;ahaha 762840;1405898143;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2XVXK5X.txt ) 762841;1405898143;mircea_popescu;!b 5 762842;1405898149;asciilifeform;unlike cesium clocks, these are inexpensive - radio stations in the civilized works are required to use them. 762843;1405898154;asciilifeform;*world 762844;1405898167;asciilifeform;to prevent frequency walking 762845;1405898197;asciilifeform;;;google rubidium clock 762846;1405898198;gribble;Rubidium standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Atomic clock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Accubeat - Technology - Rubidium Atomic Clock Technology: 762847;1405898213;BigBitz;ah Atomic Clocks. 762848;1405898216;BigBitz;such accuracy. 762849;1405898221;BigBitz;many times. 762850;1405898226;BigBitz;much sync. 762851;1405898227;BigBitz;WOW 762852;1405898251;mircea_popescu;btw, did they ever make that rubidium superclock thing ? 762853;1405898289;BingoBoingo;http://hackaday.com/2013/08/05/turning-a-rubidium-standard-into-a-proper-tool/ 762854;1405898290;assbot;Turning a rubidium standard into a proper tool 762855;1405898304;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: no idea about 'super', but these are ubiquitous in the radio industry. 762856;1405898326;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform there was some design to make them stable-er than cesium and get rid of the cs standard entirely. 762857;1405898342;thickasthieves;<+mircea_popescu> so if you add 8th from elegius ///8PH 762858;1405898388;mircea_popescu;when did that happen. 762859;1405898399;mircea_popescu;what, elegius is solving blocks now ?! 762860;1405898446;BingoBoingo;It happens because the idiots buying miners are the same idiots who ever bought miners 762861;1405898449;asciilifeform;http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx << loltron. e.g., kalashnikov banned for import in usa. 762862;1405898555;mircea_popescu;In addition, the following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: BESEDA, Sergey 762863;1405898569;mircea_popescu;lmao. so let me get this straight, if putin v2.0 decides to visit the us, they'll know ? 762864;1405898570;mircea_popescu;hao. 762865;1405898580;thickasthieves;http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/drugresistant-bacteria-sewagetreatment-plants-described-as-giant-mixing-vessels-after-scientists-discover-mutated-microbes-in-british-river-9615850.html 762866;1405898580;assbot;Drug-resistant bacteria: Sewage-treatment plants described as giant 'mixing vessels' after scientists discover mutated microbes in British river - Environment - The Independent 762867;1405898643;mircea_popescu;BORODAI, Aleksandr (a.k.a. BORODAI, Alexander); DOB 25 Jul 1972; nationality Russia (individual) [UKRAINE]. <<< aww, no prime minister of donetsk republic ? tsk tsk 762868;1405898645;mircea_popescu;lmao 762869;1405898657;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3GRZJRH.txt ) 762870;1405898657;BingoBoingo;!b 2 762871;1405898726;mircea_popescu;bazalt.ru << click on this, get added to some list or teh other. 762872;1405898740;BingoBoingo;This Dontesk Republic is basically just like a standard Hollywood sequel to Transndstria i.e. moar explosions 762873;1405898801;mircea_popescu;mhm 762874;1405898806;asciilifeform;rubidium clock << about 200 usd on 'ebay' and the like. who wants, can buy. 762875;1405898838;dub;mircea_popescu: back to your wire, validate your instrumentation first. 762876;1405898866;asciilifeform;http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supper-Low-JITTER-Clock-11-2896Mhz-Rubidium-Frequency-/180497234806 << mega-lol re: who it is pitched to! 762877;1405898868;assbot;Supper Low Jitter Clock 11 2896MHz Rubidium Frequency | eBay 762878;1405898868;BingoBoingo;http://bazalt.ru/en/nonlethal_weapons/ << Today, lethality weapons include weapons which lethality rate does not exceed 25 per cent. 762879;1405898869;assbot;Nonlethal weapons : en 762880;1405898900;benkay; how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys // okay 762881;1405898900;asciilifeform;'put the rubidium oscillator's sine output into the cd player... it will enhance the sound quality greatly.' 762882;1405898914;asciilifeform;and here i thought the magic green marker was state of the art. 762883;1405898925;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/flyingbest/cd.jpg?t=1246632694 762884;1405898956;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the inescapable question, is, as before, what one must smoke. 762885;1405899021;BingoBoingo;I kind of wonder what the ruse it, seems like an overly strong emphasis on CD player much as the headshops emphasize their glass pipes are for tobacco 762886;1405899039;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: there is an entire 'culture' of audio voodoo. 762887;1405899093;BingoBoingo;I didn't know it was /this/ bad. I almost would rather believe this is for people building plasma rifles on the down low. 762888;1405899182;asciilifeform;back to clocks: it is grave mistake to regard a pc clock as a scientific instrument. you can get pretty good thermal stability out of a quartz resonator, using an 'oven' (more or less just like kitchen oven, in miniature - maintain controlled temperature.) but this is never found in a consumer appliance. 762889;1405899206;BingoBoingo;http://hackaday.com/2014/07/05/the-cheapest-crystal-oven/ 762890;1405899208;assbot;The Cheapest Crystal Oven 762891;1405899211;BingoBoingo;!up nubbins` 762892;1405899212;asciilifeform;if you need serious (accurate and precise) timing, must use an instrument built for that purpose. 762893;1405899302;asciilifeform;'gps' and similar navigation systems, for example, live and die on atomic clock (and correct for SR!) 762894;1405899306;dub;these problems almost always compounded by failure closer to the chair 762895;1405899318;nubbins`;hi 762896;1405899342;nubbins`;SR/TD correction in GPS sats blew my mind 762897;1405899364;benkay;hey nubbins` what's with these threaded beers you can't twist the tops off of in bc? 762898;1405899385;nubbins`;england is closer to bc, but i uh 762899;1405899389;asciilifeform;nubbins`: try example 'closer to home,' even. last generation of CRT displays had to include sr correction (short tube, less glass, but higher gun voltage - fast electrons.) 762900;1405899390;dub;had an identical problem brought to me after months of hand wringing by systems teams, 30 minutes later they had data to smack vendor with who later admitted to hidden NIC revisions and supplied new driver 762901;1405899392;nubbins`;threads mean you can twist 'em off, doesn't it? 762902;1405899399;nubbins`;*is closer than bc 762903;1405899409;BingoBoingo;I've long imagined a wrist portable watch with RTG (RTG also heats crystal) I'm resigned to knowing such a device probably wouldn't have the power to offer man readable time without an unacceptable risk of wrist cancer 762904;1405899426;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i recall reading about that, why teh russians couldn't make good crts. quantum effects. 762905;1405899446;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: actually i first learned of this when studying the demise of american tv makers. 762906;1405899453;asciilifeform;japan taught sr to engineers. america - no. 762907;1405899467;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 762908;1405899488;mircea_popescu;dub i don't use vendor supplied firmware. 762909;1405899510;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu bakes own NICs ? 762910;1405899516;*;asciilifeform impressed 762911;1405899527;mircea_popescu;it limits a lot of things ;/ 762912;1405899544;*;asciilifeform digs handmade nic out of cigar box, blows off dust 762913;1405899623;mircea_popescu;anyway, now it's slower in the other direction. 762914;1405899636;dub;you're missing the point, make your dudes prove the test suite 762915;1405899649;asciilifeform;oscillator drift. 762916;1405899667;asciilifeform;unless the magnitude of the skew is more than 10 msec or so 762917;1405899687;dub;99% of people who sell themselves as experts at this are probably trying to use 'ping' 762918;1405899736;mircea_popescu;dub these are draftees lol. 762919;1405899744;asciilifeform;incidentally, quartz oscillators generally don't come in the GHz range. there's a fairly modest (<100MHz) crystal and a PLL multiplier. which compounds any error... 762920;1405899846;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it's fractions of a ms. 762921;1405899885;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: handily inside thermal drift range then. 762922;1405899970;BingoBoingo;Prolly ought to start ordering Rhubidium clocks for next downtime 762923;1405900005;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what, and pass the chance to scramble madly for a week ? 762924;1405900037;asciilifeform;likewise - perhaps there is no need to point this out, but the linux/bsd kernel is also not a scientific instrument. 762925;1405900042;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Nah, you still scramble madly for a week as you chase cesium precision 762926;1405900082;asciilifeform;also must recall that machine contains other components with quartz oscillators - and some of these components sit on the bus and can toss interrupts. 762927;1405900083;BingoBoingo;After that you chase caesous precision because the fans can't slice cheese or something 762928;1405900140;*;asciilifeform digs for ancient paper regarding maliciously estimating a remote machine's temperature using userspace-observable clock drifts 762929;1405900172;asciilifeform;^ if anyone has, please post here. 762930;1405900240;BingoBoingo;So now there's a paper that helps to explain MPEx and threaten Rassah's usb wallet 762931;1405900256;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'now' << 1990s 762932;1405900266;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform userpages.umbc.edu/~rfink1/skew/papers/StatisticalFingerprinting03.pdf ? 762933;1405900277;BingoBoingo;I was born, therefore it is recent 762934;1405900297;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not the one i was thinking of, bus similar concept. 762935;1405900299;asciilifeform;*but 762936;1405901091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 131 @ 0.0051 = 0.6681 BTC [-] {2} 762937;1405901906;mircea_popescu;!up n21187 762938;1405901929;n21187;thank u 762939;1405902355;BingoBoingo;%t 762940;1405902356;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 222 Ask: 240 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 12k High: 222 Low: 222 VWAP: 221 762941;1405902559;mircea_popescu;sure. who're you ? 762942;1405902582;n21187;nobody really 762943;1405902714;mircea_popescu;ic. 762944;1405903131;BingoBoingo;The comments here make a nice lens for paranoid about psyops http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/07/20/206205/russian-government-edits-wikipedia-on-flight-mh17 762945;1405903132;assbot;Russian Government Edits Wikipedia On Flight MH17 - Slashdot 762946;1405903563;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: American Government Edits Wikipedia On Nobody Ever - USGDot 762947;1405903613;BingoBoingo;Oh it does. I'm just trying to play a game with myself of which comments are psyops from what side, which are parody, and which are just feeding the trols 762948;1405904230;BingoBoingo;https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HkUGs-R4jJA/U7mjCp9MBnI/AAAAAAAAITM/rIQCqWagpiY/s1600/Photo+Jun+26,+11+38+08+PM.jpg 762949;1405904398;mircea_popescu;ok so the great news is, mpex is fully operational. 762950;1405904407;mircea_popescu;i will be bringing it online midday today. 762951;1405904425;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-sp30-asic-arrives-tuesday/ 762952;1405904453;decimation;re: crap quartz clocks: I wondered how they did this in cell phones, because the absolute frequency is required to be within a certain range 762953;1405904476;decimation;turns out they use minaturized tcxo: http://www.timing-is-everything.net/id75.html 762954;1405904477;assbot;Press Release 8/18/08 762955;1405904520;decimation;you can buy on digikey for ~$20 as i recall, but I"m sure apple paid much less 762956;1405904585;BingoBoingo;Overly simple charts http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html 762957;1405904585;assbot;The Middle East Friendship Chart 762958;1405904731;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo yeah, definitely, al-quaeda is hostile to everyone. herp. 762959;1405904760;mircea_popescu;and egypt is friendly to the us. what the fuck is this lmao. 762960;1405904779;BingoBoingo;If ever there were a chart which should have just been filled with "It's complicated" 762961;1405904781;mircea_popescu;iran friends with nobody but iraq ?! ahahh 762962;1405904828;mircea_popescu;check it out, how many friends the us has. iraq... the saudis... 762963;1405904837;mircea_popescu;nuts that thing. 762964;1405904893;BingoBoingo;Also Where the fuck are the Kurds? They are more a thing than refering to Iraq in the singular now. 762965;1405905017;decimation;I'm also annoyed that wristwatch accuracy is so poor 762966;1405905131;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo or afghanistan 762967;1405905149;mircea_popescu;this is so very like reading soviet hagiography 762968;1405905157;BingoBoingo;lol 762969;1405905268;decimation;it is interesting that the "high-end" watch world has gone away from "my watch is really accurate" to "look at the neat spinny gears" 762970;1405905366;BingoBoingo;decimation: Well, it had to. Shiny sell more than function does. Hence every outdoorsy flashlight is now tactical. 762971;1405905423;decimation;yeah, the last quartz watch sold on accuracy that I can find was in 1974: http://chronomaddox.com/omega_megaquartz_2400.html 762972;1405905471;decimation;it turns out you can open up many quartz watches and adjust the trim pot to correct for aging error: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f43/how-adjust-accuracy-g-shock-83153.html 762973;1405905472;assbot;How to adjust the accuracy of a G-Shock 762974;1405905561;decimation;!up Diablo-D3 762975;1405905577;Diablo-D3;that forum isnt loading 762976;1405905582;Diablo-D3;is this for an analog one? 762977;1405905599;decimation;no it's a casio g-shock 762978;1405905607;decimation;unstylish digital watch 762979;1405905611;Diablo-D3;yeah see 762980;1405905614;Diablo-D3;I have a g-shock 762981;1405905618;Diablo-D3;its 20 years old 762982;1405905625;Diablo-D3;Ive never had to adjust it 762983;1405905647;decimation;mine is about 5 years old and it loses about 10 seconds per month if it doesn't correct from WWVB 762984;1405905688;decimation;apparently the firmware in the watch: 1.) doesn't use WWVB to correct its long-term frequency error 2.) produces a one-second offset when synced to WWVB 762985;1405905896;BingoBoingo;I think a rhubidium "grandfather clock" at home is a better solution to the problem of "watch has shitty crystals" than WWVB's chicom signal. 762986;1405905945;decimation;heh chicom signal? 762987;1405906006;Diablo-D3;mine loses about half a minute every year 762988;1405906034;Diablo-D3;mine predates the time radio shit 762989;1405906056;Diablo-D3;I also turned dst off on it because of bush 762990;1405906060;BingoBoingo;Well sure it was originally US made, but when things break... And in a high power broadcase facillity shit breaks 762991;1405906099;decimation;the conventional solution is to use gps for the same purpose, but that has the same problem 762992;1405906150;BingoBoingo;Actual solution is to roll your own time standard 762993;1405906284;BingoBoingo;It isn't like the blockchain demands timestamp precision 762994;1405906469;decimation;well, how are you going to initially set your granfather clock? do you accept the communist's time reference frame? 762995;1405906536;Diablo-D3;I wouldnt mind one of the new gshocks that are solar and self setting 762996;1405906564;decimation;yeah that is what mine is, it has worse onboard clock... 762997;1405906590;Diablo-D3;it doesnt need to have a great onboard clock 762998;1405906595;decimation;also it does not sync well on the east coast of the us 762999;1405906605;Diablo-D3;heh, really? 763000;1405906606;Diablo-D3;meh 763001;1405906611;Diablo-D3;maybe by the time my watch dies 763002;1405906615;Diablo-D3;I wont bother replacing it 763003;1405906691;BingoBoingo;decimation: I imagine when it starts I'll just take the unix time from the nearest friendly timeserver 763004;1405906759;decimation;I think the citizen watches are the only digital quartz watches made today with some level of accuracy 763005;1405906805;BingoBoingo;Eh citzen or seiko generally work fine. Swatch is prolly fine too. 763006;1405906899;BingoBoingo;Most days I get by fine with a malaysian automatic winding movement when I care/remember to wear it. 763007;1405907170;dub;my phone can tell the time 763008;1405907226;decimation;phones are set by mobile towers generally 763009;1405907252;decimation;yeah a grand seiko quartz should be less than 1 second per month based on their internal spec 763010;1405907385;decimation;!up Diablo-D3 763011;1405907414;Diablo-D3;really, this whole +m stuff should stop 763012;1405907432;Diablo-D3;yeah, see, what dub said is true 763013;1405907446;Diablo-D3;my phone, also, tells time 763014;1405908179;bitstein;!up Basquiat_ 763015;1405908216;Basquiat_;bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams 763016;1405908217;assbot;Clarity Currency Management | Home 763017;1405908310;bitstein;I like how they flat out make stuff up in their "educational guide" 763018;1405908351;bitstein;"Companies such as Facebook, Apple, Yahoo, EBay and Amazon have already begun implementing bitcoin transactions in their business models, in addition to Wallstreet, political candidates, and the music community." 763019;1405908391;Basquiat_;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONRrrTFnJA 763020;1405908391;assbot;Clarity Currency Mgmt - Who We Are - YouTube 763021;1405908398;bitstein;On a symbolic level, I like how the banner image has varying degrees of clarity. 763022;1405908554;bitstein;Basquiat_: The music. 763023;1405908706;BingoBoingo;Chiraq update: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-chicago-shooting-20140720,0,5431495.story 763024;1405908706;assbot;In violent weekend, at least 40 people shot in Chicago - chicagotribune.com 763025;1405908848;bitstein;They ought to try banning guns. 763026;1405908966;Basquiat_;bitstein: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201955734645471&set=o.520416921397098&type=1&theater hard at work trading that crypto 763027;1405909450;mircea_popescu;!up Zoop_ 763028;1405909470;mircea_popescu;the music community lol 763029;1405910005;decimation;it's probably racsis to take notice of who is murdering in chicago 763030;1405910667;copumpkin;still no sign of mpex? 763031;1405910758;BingoBoingo;copumpkin: Supposedly going up Midday 763032;1405910790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2} 763033;1405910910;mircea_popescu;copumpkin http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2014#762950 763034;1405910911;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 763035;1405910931;copumpkin;yay 763036;1405910938;copumpkin;inb4 massive selloff of S.MPOE :P 763037;1405910966;copumpkin;I'd join in, except I'm lazy so I'll probably just hold it and see what happens 763038;1405910996;mircea_popescu;yay cheap shares. 763039;1405911492;copumpkin;:) 763040;1405911513;copumpkin;I think I have enough shares for now 763041;1405911535;copumpkin;one day I'll have as many as you do though! 763042;1405911536;copumpkin;>_> 763043;1405911872;mircea_popescu;well sure, i still intend to retire eventually. 763044;1405912071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.17 = 4.76 BTC [+] 763045;1405912254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.16002225 = 8.4812 BTC [-] {13} 763046;1405912377;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1818 @ 0.003 = 5.454 BTC [-] 763047;1405912620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 199 @ 0.00298982 = 0.595 BTC [-] {2} 763048;1405913154;*;asciilifeform laughs, reading log, seeing people thinking that microwave clock is for knowing the time. 763049;1405913225;*;asciilifeform often wonders about thermal behaviour of the semiconductor widgetry connected to such clocks, and whether anyone even gives a fuck 763050;1405913272;asciilifeform;incidentally, we know that gate delay is thermally ticklish. how? easy - asynchronous circuits will speed up or slow down depending on temperature. 763051;1405913708;dub;there is a clock on my microwave sothere 763052;1405913793;BingoBoingo;Time's not a real thing anyway 763053;1405913990;BingoBoingo;Time's just the scraps left over after space is cleaved from the manifold by the faculty of sensation to cognition 763054;1405914022;BingoBoingo;by intuition 763055;1405914041;BingoBoingo;Or maybe I flipped something around in there 763056;1405914365;dub;I like how you can gauge just how stupid your average HR/HS peon is by the time they expect it to take for the test 763057;1405914382;dub;estimated time for this module 30 minutes, takes 35 seconds 763058;1405914406;dub;HS learning team have a combined IQ of 17 763059;1405914435;asciilifeform;dub: let me guess. mandatory u.s. army 'anti-terrorist training' ? 763060;1405914496;dub;there was a bomb threat slide, which was particularly stupid in that I failed it 763061;1405914599;dub;apparently you should take your laptop with you in this instance because not having it destroyed by bomb squad is less important than not being blowed up 763062;1405914619;dub;er, more important 763063;1405914871;dub;gah 763064;1405914902;dub;the best ones are where there is not enough information to answer 763065;1405914961;dub;this question 'what should you take to a $site', options ID, changte request, then lists three different access card types 763066;1405914999;dub;the answer is all of above 763067;1405916774;xanthyos;is that the real marc summers? 763068;1405916779;xanthyos;of nickelodeon's double dare? 763069;1405916790;xanthyos;sorry i'm new here, but respect of it is! 763070;1405918187;mircea_popescu;!up MarcSummers 763071;1405918196;mircea_popescu;MarcSummers are you the real marc summers ? :p 763072;1405918550;benkay; bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams // omg the scrolling divs 763073;1405918551;assbot;Clarity Currency Management | Home 763074;1405919818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 59 @ 0.01282283 = 0.7565 BTC [-] {7} 763075;1405920910;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: * asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration. < you wear those cause model m, admit it! << such zing :D 763076;1405921000;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 763077;1405921002;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.09, Best ask: 621.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 620.08, 24 hour volume: 1743.48584101, 24 hour low: 620.0, 24 hour high: 628.76, 24 hour vwap: 622.95275537 763078;1405921317;mircea_popescu;miasma epidemiology huh ? good one. 763079;1405921463;mircea_popescu;if that 6th chip actually delivers what they claim it delivers... holy hell what comes after yotta ? 763080;1405923413;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/995/ukraine-ceasefire-will-be-reported-before-aug-20/ check that out lol 763081;1405923413;assbot;BitBet - Ukraine ceasefire will be reported before Aug 20 :: 0.2 B (16%) on Yes, 1.07 B (84%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 17 hours | weight: 98`801 (100`000 to 1) 763082;1405923423;mircea_popescu;what ceasefire, that thing'll be going for a decade. 763083;1405925248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.15691 = 1.5691 BTC [-] {2} 763084;1405925734;fluffypony;http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/2024.jpg 763085;1405926091;cazalla;as if parents used the internet "then" 763086;1405931044;jurov; basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls.<< i suspect he actually uses prng with fixed seed 763087;1405931053;mircea_popescu;lol 763088;1405931059;mircea_popescu;just very large ? 763089;1405931080;jurov;needs not even be so large 763090;1405932591;BingoBoingo;God is actually just the old Debian RNG flaw, n always ===== 6 763091;1405935568;BingoBoingo;!up adrrr 763092;1405935659;adrrr;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiP-h4KYnHY 763093;1405935742;adrrr;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_wymk8ORQ 763094;1405936047;adrrr;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHnHcBFSqY 763095;1405940454;BingoBoingo;%d 763096;1405940460;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 763097;1405940464;gribble;Current Blocks: 311811 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 668 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19100391549.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.1756 763098;1405941779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 230 @ 0.00300029 = 0.6901 BTC [-] {3} 763099;1405944369;jurov;http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-devert-found-dead-in-mexico-2014-7 someone here wanted to travel to conference on land? 763100;1405944369;assbot;Harry Devert Found Dead In Mexico - Business Insider 763101;1405944509;mircea_popescu;sooo... dns doesn't want to propagate ;/ 763102;1405944798;dub;your soa dont exist 763103;1405944911;mircea_popescu;meh 763104;1405944933;dub;create a records for ns1/2 polimedia 763105;1405944964;mircea_popescu;i r 763106;1405945023;mircea_popescu;dub do you see an ip for n1/n2 ? 763107;1405945098;dub;no 763108;1405945135;dub;'gendns' doesnt have the records 763109;1405945136;mircea_popescu;namecheap is LYING TO ME 763110;1405946108;dub;!up Mats_cd03 763111;1405946122;Mats_cd03;my nigga 763112;1405946289;Mats_cd03;http://hashcrack.org/page?n=21072014 763113;1405946289;assbot;Hashcrack - Vitaly Nikolenko 763114;1405946359;Mats_cd03;http://youtu.be/pLaJliu2_pI 763115;1405946360;assbot;C64 SID-Chip programmer took a hit of his bong - YouTube 763116;1405947213;dub;mircea_popescu: now ns1/2 need to no they are soa for mpex.co 763117;1405947222;dub;s/no/know jesus 763118;1405947226;mircea_popescu;lol 763119;1405947239;mircea_popescu;they've been telling me they know for an hour 763120;1405947325;jurov;dub where you got it from? i can't dig anything about mpex.co from here 763121;1405947349;dub;I cheated 763122;1405947375;dub;# dig ns1.polimedia.us @ns11.gendns.com +short 763123;1405947376;dub;185.28.190.143 763124;1405947393;mircea_popescu;aha yep 763125;1405947405;mircea_popescu;http://who.is/whois/mpex.ws << it's there, for instance. 763126;1405947406;assbot;Mpex.ws Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is 763127;1405947422;dub;add that to your host file, and the problem moves to ns1|2.polimedia refusing to recurse for mpex.co 763128;1405947438;dub;which likely means they are not soa for it 763129;1405947585;dub;either you have no mpex.co zone on there or its waiting a rehup oslt 763130;1405947600;dub;some providers do a 6 hour push for eg 763131;1405947624;mircea_popescu;im on it, finally got everything in hand 763132;1405947628;mircea_popescu;damned dns finnickiness 763133;1405947761;*;dub tries to dos mpex 763134;1405947768;mircea_popescu;awww 763135;1405947776;dub;left a sleep out of my loop :) 763136;1405948328;jurov;https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TuTLHf_xyiw/U8zB7KkTl_I/AAAAAAAAA5E/J6LywN8AI1A/w540-h809-no/staticka-elektrina.jpg 763137;1405948346;dub;lel 763138;1405948368;dub;toe'd out 763139;1405948593;jurov;up Duffer1 763140;1405948601;jurov;!up Duffer1 763141;1405948604;BingoBoingo;%t 763142;1405948605;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 238 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 14k High: 222 Low: 222 VWAP: 221 763143;1405948626;jurov;!up Rulother 763144;1405948637;jurov;!up zoinky 763145;1405948655;jurov;!up nubbins` 763146;1405948656;zoinky;30 minutes of voice 763147;1405948659;zoinky;so graced 763148;1405948669;nubbins`;buenas 763149;1405948709;jurov;zoinky tell us something about you 763150;1405949016;fluffypony;tell us your innermost feelings and concerns 763151;1405949046;zoinky;pressure is killing me 763152;1405949614;jurov;lol 763153;1405949625;mircea_popescu;!s proxies 763154;1405949626;assbot;173 results for 'proxies' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=proxies 763155;1405949652;mircea_popescu;$proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz 763156;1405949654;empyex;mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved. 763157;1405949655;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 763158;1405949676;mircea_popescu;$s 763159;1405949681;mircea_popescu;$mpexlag 763160;1405949682;empyex;mircea_popescu: Error reaching trade engine 763161;1405949686;mircea_popescu;tsk 763162;1405949697;jurov;prolly hardwired to mpex.co 763163;1405949708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00307014 = 3.0701 BTC [-] {2} 763164;1405949721;mircea_popescu;aite well, that's that. mpex back online. 763165;1405949742;mircea_popescu;i am a man with a much whiter beard. 763166;1405949757;jurov;2FB7B452 is the new key? 763167;1405949769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00309733 = 1.6447 BTC [+] {10} 763168;1405949771;mircea_popescu;making a post nao. 763169;1405949774;jurov;not it is not 763170;1405949942;pankkake;mpex extradited from .co? 763171;1405950020;mircea_popescu;so it is lol. 763172;1405950622;mircea_popescu;http://mpex.ws/faq.html#8 << here we go. 763173;1405950742;pankkake;!up boobsboobs 763174;1405950943;BingoBoingo;Hello boobsboobs 763175;1405951126;BingoBoingo;!up mike_c 763176;1405951143;mike_c;thx 763177;1405951286;BingoBoingo;Death is on its last legs https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/13/ 763178;1405951287;assbot;Game 13 - Death 1402 Life 8598 Year 980 - War of Life 763179;1405951326;mircea_popescu;game 13 ?! wasn't it 17 ? 763180;1405951336;mircea_popescu;o atc nm 763181;1405951382;mike_c;bout time death took an ass kicking 763182;1405951402;mircea_popescu;can death be killed ? 763183;1405951453;asciilifeform;'... and with strange eons even death may die.' 763184;1405951485;mircea_popescu;hehe 763185;1405951530;jurov;death dies last 763186;1405951620;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703330.0 763187;1405951620;assbot;How can this friend successfully ipo? 763188;1405951681;*;jurov reads and chokes 763189;1405951772;mircea_popescu;don't choke, swallow. 763190;1405951797;danielpbarron;https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20:14&version=NKJV 763191;1405951798;assbot;Revelation 20:14 NKJV - Then Death and Hades were cast into the - Bible Gateway 763192;1405951920;mircea_popescu;lol @that ipo 763193;1405952087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.01267562 = 0.8873 BTC [-] {8} 763194;1405952392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 56 @ 0.01387588 = 0.777 BTC [+] {3} 763195;1405953917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.0124004 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {3} 763196;1405954515;thestringpuller;!s mpex update 763197;1405954516;assbot;15 results for 'mpex update' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex+update 763198;1405954615;BingoBoingo;http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/6/0/297060.jpg?v=1 763199;1405954859;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller it's up. 763200;1405954963;thestringpuller;is it? 763201;1405954974;thestringpuller;MPEx is unreachable for me lol 763202;1405954987;thestringpuller;it's cool I should be working instead of trading right now 763203;1405955074;mike_c;it got extradited to western samoa 763204;1405955082;mike_c;http://mpex.ws 763205;1405955082;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 763206;1405955134;mircea_popescu;;;google .bz tld 763207;1405955134;gribble;.bz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Nic.bz: ; .BZ - ccTLD (country code top level domain) for Belize - Name.com: 763208;1405955142;mircea_popescu;belize and samoa. 763209;1405955170;mircea_popescu;anyway, ima have more later on, just, wanted to get it back online asap. 763210;1405955195;jurov;so it works with the old key? 763211;1405955199;dub;seems a little quiet 763212;1405955232;jurov;thestringpuller wants me to enable coinbr, is it possible? 763213;1405955250;mircea_popescu;$proxies 763214;1405955253;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies ) 763215;1405955275;mircea_popescu;jurov no, needs new key. it's in the faq http://mpex.ws/faq.html#8 763216;1405955282;mircea_popescu;and yes you can enable coinbr. 763217;1405955290;thestringpuller;ah I see 763218;1405955294;mircea_popescu;use either .bz or ws at your option 763219;1405955307;asciilifeform;where'd 'co' go ? 763220;1405955351;jurov;hm i stopped looking on http://mpex.ws/faq.html#3, there's still old keyid 763221;1405955396;pankkake;and how do we trust the new key? 763222;1405955406;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's signed by me. 763223;1405955411;jurov;!ident mircea_popescu 763224;1405955416;jurov;;;ident mircea_popescu 763225;1405955416;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 763226;1405955433;mircea_popescu;jurov that's MY key. of course it's the same. 763227;1405955478;jurov;how do you mean? A57D509A is different one 763228;1405955511;jurov;btw, how do i ask the keyserver who signed it? 763229;1405955516;mircea_popescu;are you using a cached copy of the faq ? 763230;1405955521;mircea_popescu;and one sec i;'ll link you. 763231;1405955535;pankkake;the keyserver should give you the key and its sub-signatures 763232;1405955540;jurov;02DD2D91 ... browser prolly cached it 763233;1405955563;thestringpuller;ctrl-shift-r 763234;1405955620;mircea_popescu;http://pgp.surfnet.nl:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x02DD2D91 << thjere 763235;1405955620;assbot;Search results for '0x02dd2d91' 763236;1405955627;jurov;gpg--recv-key 02DD2D91 said: PGP trust model 763237;1405955628;jurov;gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u 763238;1405955630;jurov;gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u 763239;1405955646;jurov;there seems like useful info hidden there 763240;1405955716;mircea_popescu;jurov anyway, on faq #3 the only key is mine. it's not changed. 763241;1405955828;jurov;i see, the #3 is for something else..derrrrrrp 763242;1405955919;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform co's taking a little break, back later. 763243;1405955994;mircea_popescu;dub seems a little quiet << assbot won't relay till i get a hold of kako to allow teh connections. 763244;1405956049;dub;I was watching the site but yes I see a trade now 763245;1405956580;asciilifeform;obligatory: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E8C0827C6A36BD44C145B0011ABD54B5A9577022F1486911951958E4E870BB29 763246;1405956582;assbot;Welcome | Phuctor 763247;1405956662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 370 @ 0.00310735 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {4} 763248;1405956843;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform pretty neat huh 763249;1405956926;asciilifeform;anybody here into optics ? 763250;1405956945;dub;what, like pr0n? 763251;1405956952;mircea_popescu;im into bed. laters! 763252;1405956959;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu goodnight 763253;1405956968;asciilifeform;dub: regardless of whether for pr0n or not 763254;1405957176;dub;... 763255;1405957219;asciilifeform;looking for info/experiences with chinese industrial cameras 763256;1405957423;dub;http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/ 763257;1405957502;punkman;asciilifeform: you putting together a pick n place? 763258;1405957523;asciilifeform;punkman: not actively, but slowly contemplating it when not doing other things 763259;1405957587;punkman;I got a few chinese industrial lenses, you probably want to avoid the cheap ones 763260;1405957595;dub;jurov: coinbr etr? 763261;1405957600;asciilifeform;punkman: almost certainly going to build an automatic paste printer, however. pumping paste through a handheld nozzle under microscope is a misery. 763262;1405957616;asciilifeform;and stencils suck. 763263;1405957720;punkman;only tried plain soldering under microscope, very tiring indeed 763264;1405957744;nubbins`;;;view 21116 763265;1405957746;gribble;#21116 Sun Jul 20 15:55:46 2014 nubbins` BUY 1.0 2011 1BTC Brass Series-2 Casascius @ 1.3 BTC (Price flexible, depending on condition) 763266;1405957747;punkman;here's a relaxing landscape http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg 763267;1405957752;nubbins`;really didn't think they'd be this hard to find 763268;1405957806;jurov;coinbr is on, since now. 763269;1405957821;jurov;just need to fix the data on order screen 763270;1405957988;BingoBoingo;%d 763271;1405957990;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 660481.28 in 1724 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -3.89 763272;1405957992;BingoBoingo;%ob 763273;1405957993;atcbot;12k@240 40k@238 5k@237 | 57k@211 183k@210 200k@202 763274;1405958012;dub;jurov: orders cancelled or is that what you are fixing 763275;1405958037;jurov;no orders should be cancelled (maybe except X.EUR) 763276;1405958065;dub;dashboard sowing no orders since a few minues 763277;1405958073;dub;minutes* 763278;1405958084;jurov;fuck no.. they were renumbered??? 763279;1405958103;jurov;/facedesk 763280;1405958110;dub;also the balances are missing the amount that was in the orders 763281;1405958122;jurov;where is mircea? 763282;1405958155;jurov;oinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess 763283;1405958172;benkay;http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/116066/2283684-Jimmy_bieber_Popcorn_cu-thumb-350x197-14878.gif 763284;1405958273;nubbins`;;;seen mircea_popescu 763285;1405958275;gribble;mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 2 seconds ago: im into bed. laters! 763286;1405958354;jurov;def snafu(self): 763287;1405958356;jurov;flash("Sorry, CoinBr is read-only due to mpex recovery processing. Normal service will resume shortly.",'warning') 763288;1405958375;jurov;i have a dedicated method for it by now... 763289;1405958431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79167912 BTC to 12`353 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 763290;1405958431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 234 @ 0.00311 = 0.7277 BTC [+] 763291;1405958434;dub;glhf 763292;1405958492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.26180944 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1588 satoshi per share 763293;1405958631;nubbins`;glhf, sweet acro 763294;1405959285;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 568 @ 0.00300036 = 1.7042 BTC [-] {5} 763295;1405959529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 203 @ 0.00298447 = 0.6058 BTC [-] {7} 763296;1405959590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0029808 = 1.4904 BTC [-] {4} 763297;1405959686;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/fxcm/ 763298;1405959712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1102 @ 0.00295302 = 3.2542 BTC [-] {6} 763299;1405960135;FabianB;$mpexstatus 763300;1405960137;empyex;FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 748 milliseconds (change: $proxies ) 763301;1405960433;FabianB;;;later tell mircea_popescu how about revoking A57D509A ? 763302;1405960433;gribble;The operation succeeded. 763303;1405961177;FabianB;MPEx.rb users: just change "mpexkeyid" in $HOME/.mpex/config.yaml to 02DD2D91 and sign it before usage 763304;1405961493;jurov;coinbr should be okay now, check your accounts 763305;1405961549;jurov;mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up 763306;1405961569;jurov;this would drive them crazy 763307;1405961618;jurov;how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? 763308;1405961669;nubbins`;lel 763309;1405961702;pankkake;ask them to fix their shit? well… 763310;1405961732;pankkake;my account looks ok 763311;1405961749;jurov;oh yes calling mircea off from blowjob and ask him to change order IDs back? 763312;1405961752;jurov;riiiight 763313;1405961800;jurov;at least coinbr got the dubious privilege of managing order #1 763314;1405961882;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu yes. 763315;1405961883;gribble;The operation succeeded. 763316;1405961960;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY 763317;1405961960;assbot;Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Prison (HBO) - YouTube 763318;1405962457;assbot;Doffx +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 763319;1405962698;pankkake;if only a thing such as guids existed! 763320;1405962703;pankkake;!up Doffx 763321;1405962763;Doffx;Oh, cool thank you. 763322;1405962783;Doffx;Its been a while since I was on IRC. 763323;1405962827;Doffx;What rating do you need in WOT to get level 2? 763324;1405962884;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00275905 = 0.5518 BTC [+] 763325;1405962897;FabianB;doesn't depend on rating amount 763326;1405962904;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Doffx assbot 763327;1405962905;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Doffx to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Doffx&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014 763328;1405962906;FabianB;only whom you connect with 763329;1405962916;thestringpuller;;;gettrust Doffx 763330;1405962916;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012 763331;1405962954;thestringpuller;If I was id'ed I'd rate you 763332;1405962959;thestringpuller;can't do that till I get to my key machine 763333;1405962968;thestringpuller;Doffx: ^ 763334;1405962989;Doffx;Ahh gotcha. 763335;1405963007;thickasthieves;“In order to ensure that the Island’s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (“AML/CFT”) framework. " 763336;1405963166;Doffx;Anything good happening, its been a long while, I used to live in this channel not too long ago. 763337;1405963210;Doffx;I think after watching several exchanges go down, and luckily not losing anything I stopped logging in. 763338;1405963230;pankkake;;;rate Doffx 1 #bitcoin-assets +v 763339;1405963232;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Doffx has been recorded. 763340;1405963245;Doffx;Thanks! 763341;1405963256;pankkake;I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?) 763342;1405963272;pankkake;apparently was ran by a teenager on a personal account 763343;1405963298;Doffx;I remember it, he had margin trading going if I remember correctly early on. 763344;1405963311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02890175 = 0.578 BTC [-] 763345;1405963322;Doffx;I also remember an article talking about his age and that he had a ton of btc. 763346;1405963327;Doffx;If its the same one. 763347;1405963448;pankkake;perhaps 763348;1405963777;jurov;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/chinese_uni_students_pop_tesla_model_s/ ofc 763349;1405963777;assbot;Students hack Tesla Model S, make all its doors pop open IN MOTION The Register 763350;1405963816;jurov;kakobrekla if you want nejc to have a lil accident... 763351;1405963933;thestringpuller;Wasn't bitcoin-24 some like asian kid just getting in college? 763352;1405964105;FabianB;nah, that was bitcoinica 763353;1405964165;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 565 @ 0.00277204 = 1.5662 BTC [+] {5} 763354;1405964226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 354 @ 0.00284409 = 1.0068 BTC [+] {5} 763355;1405964592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 536 @ 0.00311994 = 1.6723 BTC [+] {2} 763356;1405964662;BingoBoingo;Generally Azn kids + Australia ==== Scam, ex, Zhou Tong, Trade Fartress 763357;1405964681;thickasthieves;zhou tong makes dope songs tho 763358;1405964958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.02890175 = 0.9827 BTC [-] 763359;1405965316;fluffypony;http://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/south-africa 763360;1405965317;assbot;31 Pictures That Prove South Africa Is The Craziest Place On Earth 763361;1405965762;asciilifeform;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/goldman-managing-director-found-dead-apparent-kite-surfing-accident 763362;1405966017;thickasthieves;next time dont fuck with my NFLX short! 763363;1405966598;xmj;how much of a difference exists between doing business in the US and A with a) a LLC or b) a C corporation? 763364;1405967089;mike_c;i've heard anecdotally that companies don't like to sign contracts with LLCs, but not sure why. 763365;1405967098;benkay; mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up // lining things up neatly first makes dealing with the inevitable manual stuff vastly less of a headache. 763366;1405967110;*;xmj annoyed. 763367;1405967113;*;xmj much annoyed 763368;1405967120;benkay;i don't *need* things any particular way. i *build* things a certain way to reduce my future headache. 763369;1405967136;xmj;benkay: PM. 763370;1405967195;benkay; how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? // gotta be manual. 763371;1405967202;benkay;(who knows...) 763372;1405967212;jurov;that isn't substantially different from what i wrote 763373;1405967286;benkay;just addressing your mischaracterization of me. just because i have opinions about mpex agent's test suite doesn't mean i don't do manual data munging (or have people do it) when appropriate. 763374;1405967294;Pierre_Rochard;xmj: do you want pass-through taxation or not? That (to my strictly accounting-based knowledge) is the primary difference 763375;1405967376;thickasthieves;LLC's are "looser", less formalized than a normal corp (less meeting/documentation requirements, flexible accounting), money is passed through to partners for taxation, rtaher than taxed at corp level, 763376;1405967381;benkay;re llc vs c-corp, i've seen no difference. 763377;1405967393;benkay;c's can own llc's, and vice versa. 763378;1405967437;thickasthieves;a startup can pass losses to personal taxes 763379;1405967669;BingoBoingo;Muddling up shit even more are S corps 763380;1405967778;jurov;benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims... 763381;1405967808;jurov;at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log 763382;1405968171;jurov;pympex updated 763383;1405971530;jurov;$proxies 763384;1405971533;empyex;jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 1028 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies ) 763385;1405971551;jurov;$proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com 763386;1405971553;empyex;jurov: Temporarily saved. 763387;1405971554;empyex;jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 422 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies ) 763388;1405971682;BingoBoingo;!mpif 763389;1405971683;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021701 B (Total: 474.55 B). Delta: -0.73 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 763390;1405972220;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: re: c64 SID: http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/parallelsid/parasid.html 763391;1405972222;assbot;Parallel Port SID6581 Interface 763392;1405973299;bitcoinpete;"China signed a bilateral currency swap agreement worth 150 billion yuan ($24.17 billion) with the Swiss central bank, which can invest up to 15 billion yuan in China's bond market." 763393;1405973437;thestringpuller;bitcoinpete: all out war on the dollar now. ;) 763394;1405973457;bitcoinpete;it's heating up 763395;1405975810;*;mircea_popescu goes to message assbot, messages assboy instead. 763396;1405975812;mircea_popescu;nohomo. 763397;1405975833;mircea_popescu;FabianB why ? 763398;1405975855;thestringpuller;assboy 763399;1405975857;thestringpuller;lol 763400;1405975922;mircea_popescu;;;seen pizzaman1337 763401;1405975922;gribble;pizzaman1337 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: [unreliable source?] 763402;1405975943;kakobrekla;assboy lol 763403;1405975960;kakobrekla;pizza is around just not typing here. 763404;1405975964;mircea_popescu;o just the man i wanted to see. 763405;1405976012;mircea_popescu;jurov: coinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess << ohai. 763406;1405976251;pizzaman1337;oh hey, now I can talk 763407;1405976258;mircea_popescu;jurov:how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? << order ids have always been a motherfucking bitch. new trade engine install, so there's that. sorry j! 763408;1405976266;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 :p 763409;1405976273;mircea_popescu;don't you now feel sheshul. 763410;1405976285;pizzaman1337;very sheshuled 763411;1405976411;mircea_popescu;!up Doffx 763412;1405976412;pizzaman1337;kakobrekla: long time no-see. bit4x going well still? 763413;1405976424;mircea_popescu;Doffx : all you need is for anyone in assbot's direct trust ring to rate you positively. 763414;1405976476;kakobrekla;pizzaman1337 world domination proceeding as planned. 763415;1405976484;mircea_popescu;pizzaman1337 no, he's just losing 1% a month. 763416;1405976507;mircea_popescu;which means he'll be the last btc biz to fail, but it'll still be a FAIL 763417;1405976513;kakobrekla;that is completley another scam. 763418;1405976519;kakobrekla;dont mix the two. 763419;1405976524;mircea_popescu;this is what pirate said! 763420;1405976538;kakobrekla;hehe 763421;1405976606;pizzaman1337;-1%/month sounds like world domination to me. almost. 763422;1405976620;pizzaman1337;kakobrekla: are those guys still planning on setting up an exchange? 763423;1405976628;mircea_popescu;"but there is some ambiguity in this bet depending on the time zone..." <<< "I'm the last person on earth to not know what timezone bitbet uses through no fault of my own and also not having bothered TO READ THE MOTHERFAQING FAQ! and so therefore there's ambiguity in this bet. Not in my dumb fucking head that wouldn't be fit to grace a gargoyle. " 763424;1405976680;pankkake;I read "gloryhole" 763425;1405976688;pankkake;it works, I think 763426;1405976694;kakobrekla;pizzaman1337 hint: try btce demo, yes demo. 763427;1405976714;pizzaman1337;kakobrekla: no depth, orders don't fill as desired 763428;1405976720;mircea_popescu;pankkake i think it's even better. 763429;1405976732;kakobrekla;bingo. 763430;1405976736;pizzaman1337;boo 763431;1405976740;mircea_popescu;!up riX2000 763432;1405976786;mircea_popescu;FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount << til fabian is a fucking heretic. SMALL AMOUNT OF DEPENDS! 763433;1405976964;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/491323029096374272 763434;1405976974;bitcoinpete;$211,000,000,000 = $AAPL and $GOOG combined cash holdings 763435;1405976987;bitcoinpete;also… 0 btc 763436;1405977022;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete people gotta learn the limitations of linear interpolation sometime. 763437;1405977100;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: these people being... 763438;1405977117;mircea_popescu;well in general. 763439;1405977184;bitcoinpete;quite 763440;1405977196;bitcoinpete;linear extrapolation is also horribly overused 763441;1405977214;bitcoinpete;like the dood who says "29b ppl on planet earth is no biggie" 763442;1405977227;bitcoinpete;what would the lines at the louvre be like then? 763443;1405977242;mircea_popescu;exactly what happens when you say "cash holdings" about 221 bn. 763444;1405977253;FabianB;mircea_popescu: just if you consider it potentially compromised (the old key) 763445;1405977262;mircea_popescu;well... they're not exactly cash, now are they. obv pros know what it implies, but random person on the street... cash is cash rite ? 763446;1405977281;mircea_popescu;FabianB i don't, so i'm just shelving it. 763447;1405977300;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: calling it "cash" makes it soup as liquid as soup 763448;1405977309;bitcoinpete;when it's probably as liquid as cement 763449;1405977311;FabianB;yeah, then no need to revoke 763450;1405977328;bitcoinpete;*makes it sound 763451;1405977444;mircea_popescu;$mpexlag 763452;1405977446;empyex;mircea_popescu: 1009 milliseconds 763453;1405977450;mircea_popescu;orly ? 763454;1405977492;FabianB;was wondering too, i have two theories for the lag 763455;1405977514;mircea_popescu;FabianB i don't see it tho, from my side ? 763456;1405977536;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: In order to ensure that the Islands [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (AML/CFT) framework. " << right. anyone who didn't see that one coming should not be a ceo in the first place. 763457;1405977551;FabianB;since using mpex.bz instead of trade engine ip now it's doing a dns lookup 763458;1405977586;FabianB;and i moved the bot to singapore 763459;1405977590;mircea_popescu;pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?) << oh yeah. i kept wanting to write a scathing piece, kept putting it off, then they belly up'd. lost my article heh. 763460;1405977600;FabianB;but pure ping is around 200 ms 763461;1405977659;mircea_popescu;a the dns may be it yes. 763462;1405977682;mircea_popescu;still, makes $mpexlag actualy more valuable as a middle-of-the-road sort of measure. 763463;1405977695;FabianB;dunno if i should cache it; on the other hand it's realistic, since clients make a dns lookup as well usually 763464;1405977724;mircea_popescu;you can in principle cache it if you want, at the risk that you know, if it changes you have a bad cache. 763465;1405977752;FabianB;i think i'll keep it that way 763466;1405977769;mircea_popescu;anyway, this new setup is pretty fucking sweet. 763467;1405977829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+] {2} 763468;1405977844;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ahyaha kite surfing accident ? that's cute. 763469;1405977851;mircea_popescu;they meant kike surfing amirite ? 763470;1405977876;mircea_popescu;fluffypony http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/20/22/enhanced/webdr04/enhanced-buzz-10565-1405910936-4.jpg omfg srsly ?! 763471;1405977927;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: his nailgun must've had empty clip. 763472;1405977951;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+] 763473;1405977962;fluffypony;heh heh 763474;1405977965;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: lol those dentures... 763475;1405977970;bitcoinpete;sent that to my wife actually 763476;1405978019;*;asciilifeform always imagined that dentures must be serious business in the turd world, but never seen this before. 763477;1405978020;mircea_popescu;nuts lol. "Cannibals" 763478;1405978047;mircea_popescu;http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/21/0/enhanced/webdr02/enhanced-buzz-1417-1405917936-24.jpg aahahh 763479;1405978148;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: african dentistry is something else. their notions of "health" and "cosmetically attractive" are wildly different. 763480;1405978156;bitcoinpete;it's mostly a "no pain, no problem" 763481;1405978165;bitcoinpete;like most of the world, i suppose 763482;1405978201;bitcoinpete;i wonder if they get second-hand dentures from the western world in the same shipments as t-shirts and jeans 763483;1405978222;bitcoinpete;and old computer parts 763484;1405978255;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: why import. denture probably outlives owner. 763485;1405978365;bitcoinpete;i can't wait until dentures make their way into the north american "sharing economy" 763486;1405978397;bitcoinpete;"make money while you sleep" (in the library, mall, etc.) 763487;1405978451;mircea_popescu;!up evwebweb 763488;1405978474;bitcoinpete;"If we are honest and have the strength to face reality, we will realize that the Soviet Union did not collapse. It simply moved, along with Mao and Pol Pot, to Washington and London." 763489;1405978501;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know i grew up in the strict idea that eyeglasses are this made-for-user things, it completely fucking boggled me to see people "trying" on glasses. 763490;1405978517;bitcoinpete;"if we discount the pavlovian conditioning, the only conclusion is that the entire news cycle pertaining to the downing of the Malaysian airliner is orchestrated in order to lay the blame on Putin." 763491;1405978527;bitcoinpete;http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/19/happened-malaysian-airliner-paul-craig-roberts/ 763492;1405978528;assbot;What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org 763493;1405978563;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: that's more like suits 763494;1405978576;bitcoinpete;an eyeglass tailer… now there's an idea! 763495;1405978581;bitcoinpete;*tailor 763496;1405978609;mircea_popescu;http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/21/1/enhanced/webdr11/enhanced-buzz-16599-1405919398-9.jpg << ok this chick i want to meet. 763497;1405978701;Namworld;I just call that an optometrist... 763498;1405978746;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves: next time dont fuck with my NFLX short! << lmao. tat's out fo blood. 763499;1405978805;assbot;[MPEX] [Q.TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC [+] 763500;1405978821;mircea_popescu;thar she bloes. 763501;1405978849;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 763502;1405978851;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.51, Best ask: 621.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.47000, Last trade: 620.51, 24 hour volume: 3919.19645834, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 628.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.978165511 763503;1405978968;mircea_popescu;jurov: at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log << this is hoiw you know you're in irl business :D 763504;1405978998;mircea_popescu;$mpexlag 763505;1405978999;empyex;mircea_popescu: 877 milliseconds 763506;1405979002;mircea_popescu;$proxies 763507;1405979005;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 428 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies ) 763508;1405979018;mircea_popescu;FabianB well what is it, 8 or 4 ? :D 763509;1405979022;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 763510;1405979023;gribble;138890613.616 763511;1405979063;FabianB;i guess it has high volatility :) 763512;1405979071;FabianB;$mpexlag 763513;1405979073;empyex;FabianB: 764 milliseconds 763514;1405979112;FabianB;maybe i should move it to europe 763515;1405979373;mircea_popescu;nah dont adjust measuring stick to cock. 763516;1405979438;mircea_popescu;imo this setup is ideal, measure from singapore to amsterdam 763517;1405979482;FabianB;heh, was just about to start an instance in amsterdam, ok, let's keep it in sg 763518;1405979517;FabianB;hm, dns lookup is 5 ms 763519;1405979531;mircea_popescu;it fucking should be. 763520;1405979551;mircea_popescu;i actually have pretty cool nservers, irrespective of all the dub hate :D 763521;1405979575;FabianB;64 bytes from 23.235.235.113: icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=264 ms 763522;1405979608;FabianB;wondering if bot is trying ipv6 first 763523;1405979620;mircea_popescu;200ish sounds more credible. 763524;1405979740;mircea_popescu;btw you can take off that (change) part. it's not useful anymore. 763525;1405979762;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: somebody else's glasses, within 10% or so, are, i suppose - better than none 763526;1405979773;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the problem is how the fuck do you measure 763527;1405979778;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: where was this - zimbabwe ? 763528;1405979787;mircea_popescu;costa rica. 763529;1405979791;asciilifeform;lol 763530;1405979998;mircea_popescu;$proxies 763531;1405980000;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 557 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 763532;1405980022;FabianB;hm. disabled ipv6, so that's not it 763533;1405980023;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/blocks-found-last-24-hours-added-poolnetwork-information/ 763534;1405980076;mircea_popescu;so mpex opened.... HIGH on low volume ? 763535;1405980087;mircea_popescu;isn't this like exactly the opposite of what should have happened ? 763536;1405980120;kakobrekla;that block finder table is missing sum(all) on top 763537;1405980330;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00081082 = 5.4236 BTC [+] 763538;1405980574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00081082 = 4.0541 BTC [+] 763539;1405980696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7115 @ 0.0008171 = 5.8137 BTC [+] {2} 763540;1405981066;bitcoinpete;Isis is marking Christian homes with the letter N, in Arabic ن which means “Nazarean”, so they pay punitive taxes. pic.twitter.com/THXzy0bSU1 763541;1405981081;bitcoinpete;via taleb 763542;1405981110;mircea_popescu;nasty. 763543;1405981240;bitcoinpete;better than lamb's blood on the door frame and losing a first born… but still 763544;1405981262;bitcoinpete;like getting kicked in the balls is better than a firing squad 763545;1405981904;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: maybe this is better as a trilema comment, but how are DERPS adjusted againt BTC volatility since they are priced in fiat? 763546;1405981923;mircea_popescu;they are not, since you can just buy bitcoin with your fiat. 763547;1405982709;thestringpuller;will you ever do non btc related derps (it seems even viable to ycombinator suckiness) 763548;1405982886;mircea_popescu;if there's demand 763549;1405982952;mircea_popescu;!up Doffx 763550;1405982959;mircea_popescu;Doffx wha seems to be the trouble ? 763551;1405982964;Doffx;No trouble. 763552;1405982981;Doffx;Was just coming back to the old channels to start chatting with old friends 763553;1405982988;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot Doffx 763554;1405982989;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012 763555;1405982990;Doffx;Maybe learn something new 763556;1405982998;mircea_popescu;so you need to id with gribble and pm assbot !up 763557;1405983021;Doffx;Oh, I thought I had. 763558;1405983082;mircea_popescu;see ? 763559;1405983102;Doffx;Yep, seems happy now. 763560;1405983112;mircea_popescu;so whatcha been up to ? 763561;1405983146;Doffx;Same stuff, just kinda stopped popping in to the channels when I started a new job. 763562;1405983171;thestringpuller;what kinda job? 763563;1405983181;thestringpuller;if you dont mind 763564;1405983186;Doffx;IT for a financial institution. 763565;1405983205;mircea_popescu;girl i met recently asks me in all seriousness "if you could have any job in the world, what would it be ?" 763566;1405983219;fluffypony;and you said astronaut, right? 763567;1405983227;Doffx;Fireman 763568;1405983228;mircea_popescu;actually i said tigress tamer. 763569;1405983245;mircea_popescu;it'll hit her like a ton of bricks sometime later. 763570;1405983249;kakobrekla;its a trick question. 763571;1405983292;thestringpuller;i want to be a cosmonaut 763572;1405983392;mircea_popescu;http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2559/Why-the-lion-normally-wins-in-a-fight-with-a-tiger << misspelled urls ftw. 763573;1405983394;assbot;Why the lion normally wins in a fight with a tiger in Lion vs Tiger Discussion Forum 763574;1405983812;dignork;apparently recording of russian radar (Boing crash) http://stat.multimedia.mil.ru/multimedia/video/clips/more.htm?id=5086%40morfVideoAudioFile 763575;1405983812;assbot;: 763576;1405983863;dignork;plane dissapears about 3:20 763577;1405983999;dub;showing the su-25 intercept? 763578;1405984018;dignork;i'm not sure what i see there, never seen the real screen :) 763579;1405984028;dub;http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/ 763580;1405984046;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/shut-up-and-sit-down/ 763581;1405984146;mthreat;who funds RT? 763582;1405984183;dub;who funds every other media outlet? 763583;1405984218;mthreat;no i actually watch RT in spanish, but i'm curious who funds it 763584;1405984239;mthreat;(i.e. not a rhetorical question) 763585;1405984255;kakobrekla;russians 763586;1405984283;dub;considering the level of pandering I'd guess its russian state funded 763587;1405984296;dub;much like cnn or fox is usg powered 763588;1405984314;mthreat;ok. i just like to know. I watch it for a different point of view from CNN et al 763589;1405984321;mircea_popescu;mthreat some candian holding corp for a bunch of english twerps 763590;1405984331;mircea_popescu;thompson fambly. 763591;1405984401;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: crazy canuckistanis... 763592;1405984435;mthreat;RT has an american chick, Eva Golinger, who covers latin american news in spanish 763593;1405984501;mircea_popescu;so what you want to buy her ? 763594;1405984522;mthreat;nah.. she's paid for already 763595;1405984754;bitcoinpete;off to pottery class again. mostly to set an example for benkay ;) 763596;1405984763;bitcoinpete;cheers 763597;1405986104;dub;don't forget to IPO the result 763598;1405986152;kakobrekla;eskimo can do the baking. 763599;1405986155;dub;petespotteryashtrays.com 763600;1405986164;dub;'xactly 763601;1405987150;benkay;pottery? what? 763602;1405987212;benkay; benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims... // the point is not a full model of mpex, the point is a full testing of all paths through a codebase, guaranteeing its performance under known inputs. 763603;1405987228;benkay;clearly, a changing of order-id's would have been (prior to today) an unknown unput 763604;1405988191;thestringpuller;Joys of driving a fast car: when there is no traffic, get home instantly. 763605;1405988204;thestringpuller;;;ticker 763606;1405988205;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 619.99, Best ask: 622.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 3952.32574325, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 627.69, 24 hour vwap: 619.695633373 763607;1405989305;asciilifeform;http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/can-the-su-25-intercept-and-shoot-down-a-777 << airplane wank 763608;1405989306;assbot;Can the Su-25 intercept and shoot down a 777? | Locklin on science 763609;1405989517;dub;obama said they had a bird overhead so he has the whole thing in 4k res with 5.1 dolby 763610;1405989710;dub;pretty obvious at this point why he's not sharing 763611;1405989738;asciilifeform;dub: 'pixar' render farm only goes so fast. 763612;1405989751;dub;no doubt 763613;1405989823;dub;a bit more work than the soviet 'radar leak' 763614;1405989913;benkay;thestringpuller: the leaf can go faster than 60 mph? 763615;1405990035;asciilifeform;http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/07/fact-free-zone.html << more airplanewank, this time orlov's 763616;1405990578;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11205 @ 0.00080752 = 9.0483 BTC [-] {3} 763617;1405991432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 272 @ 0.00299998 = 0.816 BTC [+] {4} 763618;1405992155;decimation;re: mh17 : I find it hard to believe that someone who has the skills to successfully operate a high-altuitude SAM system can also fail to properly identify his target, especially confusing a 777 with a plane half its size and operated by prop 763619;1405992213;decimation;with a service ceiling 10,000 feet below the 777 altutitude 763620;1405992602;dub;speaking to that last analysis there has been a palpable sense of desperation in anything out of kiev lately 763621;1405992684;decimation;re: kitesurfing, it is an extremely dangerous sport, people die all the time 763622;1405992751;decimation;re: other people's glasses: obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=836 763623;1405992752;assbot;Loper OS » Programmer’s Editors, Illustrated. 763624;1405992970;mircea_popescu;<dub> pretty obvious at this point why he's not sharing << accidentally also merkel sunbathing nude in background ? 763625;1405993079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00285407 = 1.427 BTC [-] {9} 763626;1405993140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.02890175 = 1.4451 BTC [-] 763627;1405994398;asciilifeform;;;remove 21092 763628;1405994399;gribble;Order 21092 removed. 763629;1405994438;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: got me a xyz mover. 763630;1405994456;kakobrekla;good stuff, which one? 763631;1405994457;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: 100 usd. try that on for size. 763632;1405994463;kakobrekla;jesus. 763633;1405994474;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: old 'microarrayer' carcass. 763634;1405994506;kakobrekla;if it fits your requirements, defo a better choice. 763635;1405994507;*;asciilifeform miser, cackles 763636;1405994540;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2013#377837 763637;1405994541;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 763638;1405994820;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: swiss motors. same ones, actually, as in the machine i used to program. 763639;1405994830;asciilifeform;('maxon') 763640;1405995072;xmj;so 763641;1405995086;xmj;fluffypony: earlier today i've incorporated something in the US. 763642;1405995090;xmj;"just 'cause" 763643;1405995336;decimation;ascii was it on ebay? 763644;1405995346;asciilifeform;decimation: aye 763645;1405995365;decimation;I find most ebay electronics to be overpriced 763646;1405995402;decimation;anything with "hp" on the label goes for 2x what it is worth 763647;1405995421;asciilifeform;decimation: for consumer junk, sure. but these motors, alone, usually sell for a few 100s each. 763648;1405995440;kakobrekla;servos? 763649;1405995451;asciilifeform;steppers 763650;1405995453;decimation;I gues the lesson is to buy parts, not assembled equipment 763651;1405995455;kakobrekla;a. 763652;1405995480;asciilifeform;decimation: i usually use ebay to source 'one of a kind' relics like this. 763653;1405995486;kakobrekla;new cnc parts arent cheap. used ones sometiems re. 763654;1405995488;kakobrekla;are 763655;1405995547;kakobrekla;for 100$ i cant even ship my machine domestically. 763656;1405995549;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: for this application, i don't really need the stiffness of a traditional cnc rail set. but the '3d printer' kits are also unsuitable (poor accuracy, and they usually have moving tables.) 763657;1405995590;kakobrekla;yea 763658;1405995637;xmj;g'morning 763659;1405995649;decimation;ascii what will you use for a position sensor 763660;1405995652;xmj;what's the quickest way to get a US EIN after incorporating? 763661;1405995658;asciilifeform;decimation: optics 763662;1405995716;decimation;marked reference points or the board itself? 763663;1405995778;asciilifeform;decimation: board. 763664;1405995788;asciilifeform;decimation: (and component trolleys) 763665;1405995832;decimation;that would be slick 763666;1405995835;asciilifeform;decimation: initially this thing will be put in service as, essentially, a waldo. 763667;1405995936;decimation;waldo? 763668;1405995963;asciilifeform;;;google waldo robot 763669;1405995964;gribble;Remote manipulator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Waldo (short story) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Waldo (remote manipulator) - Muppet Wiki: 763670;1405996017;asciilifeform;decimation: traditional name for any robotic gizmo driven manually 763671;1405996229;decimation;heh from heinlein. is this an advantage because it has finer controls than your hand? 763672;1405996249;asciilifeform;decimation: considerably finer. and stays vertical. 763673;1405996278;decimation;perhaps with the future hope of creating a closed-loop automated system 763674;1405996295;asciilifeform;future. 763675;1405998396;Vexual;wtf are you building ascii? optics= machine vision, or are you talking smaller? 763676;1405998427;mircea_popescu;he's taken the sexbot discussion to heart. 763677;1405998469;Vexual;lol 763678;1405998584;Vexual;piezo love needs a lot of foreplay 763679;1405999098;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform re aaron toponce's "urandom, random, same thing&what the hell's the difference", i guess some people just don't wanna sit down and actually get a megabyte to work on. 763680;1406000169;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ << page wordcount ? 8553. total bet ? 7.440 763681;1406000169;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 4 days ago 763682;1406000257;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/LM8vO8z 763683;1406000258;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 763684;1406000282;mircea_popescu;i'd do her. 763685;1406000310;nubbins`;might wanna check her teeth first 763686;1406000322;mircea_popescu;course non-monkey tits are on the abdomen not on the torso, but w/e 763687;1406000322;dub;eww smoker 763688;1406000348;nubbins`;well ya know. realism this ain't 763689;1406000361;nubbins`;i don't think zebras have six tits at any location on their body 763690;1406000433;mircea_popescu;four, by the pubic mound. like all herbivores. 763691;1406000466;mircea_popescu;basically that little bit of fat under the hair above a gal's gash turns into an udder with herbivores. 763692;1406000612;nubbins`;gash 763693;1406000934;nubbins`;ham wallet 763694;1406001150;nubbins`;salmon canyon 763695;1406001168;dub;sausage wallet 763696;1406001180;nubbins`;heh 763697;1406001192;mircea_popescu;not everyone's thin, dub. 763698;1406001194;nubbins`;do you put your money in a leather wallet or a dollar wallet? 763699;1406001288;nubbins`;;;ud ham wallet 763700;1406001289;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ham%20Wallet | Mike: Jenny? Jenny: Yeah Mike? Mike: I was thinking about melting your fucking face off by rocking your ham wallet for six hours, what do you think? 763701;1406001316;mircea_popescu;dude this is a sad generation. 763702;1406001338;nubbins`;the gentleman wishes to rock the lady's ham wallet for six hours 763703;1406001389;mircea_popescu;no. 763704;1406001409;mircea_popescu;the gentleman aspires to a position of dominance, imagines himself unable to cope and offers the sad copout of ... 6 hours ? 763705;1406001410;mircea_popescu;heh. 763706;1406001450;nubbins`;if you can't do it well, do it for an unpleasantly long time 763707;1406001465;nubbins`;;;google havelock 763708;1406001465;gribble;Havelock Investments: ; Havelock, North Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Havelock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 763709;1406001490;nubbins`;hm. 763710;1406001492;nubbins`;;;ud havelock 763711;1406001493;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Havelock | Aug 20, 2005 ... Example 1. *Man walks into post* "Dude, you just pulled a Havelock" Example 2. "My new Havelock is very warm, I think I'll wear it to school". 763712;1406001729;mircea_popescu;;;ud mpex 763713;1406001729;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mpex.net | ... mpec · mpeepee · mpeg · mpenzi · Mpex.net · MPF · mpfag · MPFF · mpffffffffhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh · MPFH · MPFM · mpfree ... Mpex.net isn't defined. 763714;1406001739;mircea_popescu;lolk 763715;1406001753;Vexual;unbeliezable 763716;1406001759;mircea_popescu;ahahah 763717;1406001777;Vexual;can we get mcafee in here? i know he watches 763718;1406001779;copumpkin;mpex.ws works! 763719;1406001782;copumpkin;weird 763720;1406001815;copumpkin;oh, and the statement came out too! 763721;1406001817;copumpkin;it's christmas 763722;1406001881;mircea_popescu;how's lyf copumpkin ? 763723;1406001910;copumpkin;going pretty well! you? 763724;1406001969;mircea_popescu;well actually... i think there's a fire in the building. 763725;1406001998;copumpkin;that sounds somewhat problematic 763726;1406002030;mircea_popescu;myeah. 763727;1406002056;copumpkin;what are you doing about it? 763728;1406002065;nubbins`;Vexual that would be rad 763729;1406002124;mircea_popescu;copumpkin same thing i'm doing about global warming. waiting it the shit out. 763730;1406002132;Vexual;lol 763731;1406002134;copumpkin;sounds like a plan 763732;1406002141;copumpkin;perhaps not the best plan 763733;1406002144;copumpkin;but definitely a plan 763734;1406002166;mircea_popescu;it's pretty good. they do integral poured concrete building here, everything's built like a fucking dam. 763735;1406002193;mircea_popescu;i think the net effect of half the entire thing burning to a crisp would be slightly warmer walls. 763736;1406002215;Vexual;you qou keep the requisite amount of climbing rope on hand? 763737;1406002247;mircea_popescu;im a floor above some shit that's a coupla floors above ground. i could just basically walk out the window if needed. 763738;1406002248;nubbins`;not sure if i mentioned this earlier, but i sold the rights to use one of my prints for a cassette cover today 763739;1406002256;nubbins`;to this kid named johnny cowabunga :0 763740;1406002259;mircea_popescu;nubbins` lotta dough ? 763741;1406002263;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 763742;1406002278;nubbins`;sliding scale, i let the kid away with $50 ;D 763743;1406002292;nubbins`;and a free cassette 763744;1406002302;mircea_popescu;i'd have asked for the wife. 763745;1406002309;mircea_popescu;imagine, having banged cheri cowabunga 763746;1406002314;nubbins`;i can add it to my collection of tapes that i can't play 763747;1406002327;Vexual;my car plays tapes 763748;1406002335;mircea_popescu;s/car/cat 763749;1406002385;copumpkin;mircea_popescu: what do you drive? 763750;1406002393;mircea_popescu;i don't drive. 763751;1406002399;copumpkin;what are you driven in? 763752;1406002409;mircea_popescu;ideally a mercedes. 763753;1406002432;copumpkin;how do you get around? 763754;1406002471;nubbins`;he pays people to chauffeur him :0 763755;1406002482;mircea_popescu;something like that. 763756;1406002488;nubbins`;heh 763757;1406002496;mircea_popescu;also, i walk. 763758;1406002510;nubbins`;anything less than an hour is automatic walk for me 763759;1406002552;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i'm about 200 yards from the natl theatre, right behind the courthouse, half mile from the presidency and about a mile from the congress. 763760;1406002561;mircea_popescu;o and half a mile from the city congress 763761;1406002601;mircea_popescu;my lawyer's half a mile that way, the best sushi in town is a quarter mile this way, on it goes. longest walk i ever have to take is to get to the jooz quarter. 763762;1406002614;mthreat;here's his limo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Buenos_Aires_-_Colectivo_108_-_120209_111802.jpg 763763;1406002639;mircea_popescu;mthreat i've yet to try teh mass transit here 763764;1406002651;Vexual;popescuist! 763765;1406002652;mircea_popescu;but the cab service is really really good. 763766;1406002668;mthreat;ya taxis are good and cheap 763767;1406002682;mircea_popescu;this place is what new york wishes it were. 763768;1406002698;Vexual;did you get any pirhana yet? 763769;1406002706;mircea_popescu;even the matzah ball's better. 763770;1406002728;copumpkin;mircea_popescu: reminds me of being in boston 763771;1406002740;mircea_popescu;how ? 763772;1406002749;copumpkin;:( 763773;1406002749;copumpkin;I used to walk everywhere 763774;1406002754;copumpkin;not even public transport 763775;1406002786;mircea_popescu;a yes. 763776;1406002810;Vexual;hows the spanish progressing mircea? 763777;1406002822;mircea_popescu;try getting dumplings without fucking margerine in new york, it's nigh on impossible. fucktards. 763778;1406002852;TheNewDeal;walking is kind of like public transport 763779;1406002896;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal why, do you normally carry people ? 763780;1406002927;TheNewDeal;for a small fee 763781;1406002932;mircea_popescu;http://blog.nationalcarbrokers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Mercedes-BIOME012.jpg << new from mercedes! a vacuum cleanner! 763782;1406003030;copumpkin;lol 763783;1406003118;Vexual;id want a few glasses of pino gris before i drove that, so that i might imagine where the road is 763784;1406003127;TheNewDeal;quiz question: what is the financial incentive in copying someone else's odds on bitbet, but at a fraction of their bet? re: http://bitbet.us/bet/1000/republicans-win-majority-of-the-u-s-senate/ 763785;1406003127;assbot;BitBet - Republicans win majority of the U.S. Senate :: 0.77 B (64%) on Yes, 0.43 B (36%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 99`870 (100`000 to 1) 763786;1406003159;TheNewDeal;you're banking on them getting the odds correct? 763787;1406003172;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal this was discussed earlier, re financial products. what the fuck is the buzzword, i forget 763788;1406003188;mircea_popescu;someone or the other had introduced this option to "copy" other trader's strategy 763789;1406003188;TheNewDeal;!s lawgs 763790;1406003189;assbot;6 results for 'lawgs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=lawgs 763791;1406003224;TheNewDeal;so what you're telling me is, it's in the lawgs https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z ? 763792;1406003224;assbot;Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip 763793;1406003245;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal mkay lemme see here 763794;1406003295;TheNewDeal;love reading that every time 763795;1406003401;mircea_popescu;a ok found it. 763796;1406003414;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741872 763797;1406003414;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 763798;1406003618;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel 763799;1406003627;gabriel_laddel;First pass at a 20 post care package: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aakdQD9P 763800;1406003649;gabriel_laddel;Regarding sexbots, I'm surprised that no one has brought the custom maid 3d integration with oculus rift. 763801;1406003657;gabriel_laddel;http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73799908&postcount=309 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJ5zNLsOwY http://vimeo.com/79173606 763802;1406003658;assbot;NeoGAF - View Single Post - Penis-Powered Game Gets Oculus Rift Support (Post #309 hands-on review) 763803;1406003659;assbot;Zozzerie con L'OCULUS RIFT - YouTube 763804;1406003659;assbot;VR TENGA DEMO (2): Oculus RiftNovint FalconTENGA on Vimeo 763805;1406003687;mircea_popescu;"The Last Psychaiarist" << that's not spelled thusly. 763806;1406003696;gabriel_laddel;ty 763807;1406003778;mircea_popescu;gabriel_laddel well i suspect we're really very noobish masturbators. 763808;1406003815;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00080758 = 6.1376 BTC [+] 763809;1406003820;mircea_popescu;fluffypony mebbe you should hire THIS guy to do those summaries. 763810;1406004486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00081098 = 7.5827 BTC [+] 763811;1406005174;TheNewDeal;after reading, still not sure on what the consensus was? Really doesn't matter, because you don't know what future bets will be? 763812;1406005232;mircea_popescu;really does not matter, because while it saves on the direct question (what to bet) it creates the meta question (whom to copy). 763813;1406005239;mircea_popescu;these being equally hard... nothing has changed. 763814;1406005317;copumpkin;so much for that MPOE selloff I was expecting 763815;1406005653;asciilifeform;Vexual: wtf are you building << cardanos. 763816;1406005671;asciilifeform;srsly 763817;1406005692;asciilifeform;what'd ya think? tanks? rockets? 763818;1406005702;Vexual;no ots cemeras is fine 763819;1406005767;TheNewDeal;chimeras!?! 763820;1406005786;asciilifeform;chimeras, we build later. 763821;1406005830;*;mircea_popescu recommends fucking chimeras. it's fucking weird in a good way. 763822;1406005895;mircea_popescu;"While from innate cowardice the upper classes turn away from a man whom the Jew attacks with lies and slander, the broad masses from stupidity or simplicity believe everything. The state authorities either cloak themselves in silence or, what usually happens, in order to put an end to the Jewish press campaign, they persecute the unjustly attacked, which, in the eyes of such an official ass, passes as the preservation 763823;1406005896;mircea_popescu;of state authority and the safeguarding of law and order." 763824;1406005902;mircea_popescu;let's play "guess the author" 763825;1406005930;asciilifeform;herr schicklegruber 763826;1406005985;TheNewDeal;adolph 763827;1406006001;TheNewDeal;-ph +f 763828;1406006005;mircea_popescu;ahjahaha adolph herr schicklegruber 763829;1406006013;mircea_popescu;that's it, best name ever. 763830;1406006059;Vexual;the red nosed fcist 763831;1406006066;asciilifeform;;;google alois schicklgruber 763832;1406006067;gribble;Alois Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ancestry of Adolf Hitler - 20th Century History - About.com: ; Alois Hitler, father to Adolf - History in an HourHistory in an Hour: 763833;1406006110;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform a srsly ? i had no idea. 763834;1406006125;asciilifeform;btw 'table talk' is the 'fun hitler.' 763835;1406006134;asciilifeform;mk is a snore. 763836;1406006200;mircea_popescu;i find it very amusing, this tendency of the simpleton to personalise. first, the gods are guys (and some gals), because why the fuck not. then, Nature, has a will. finally, the pernicious working of the democratic/populist press become "jewish". 763837;1406006210;mircea_popescu;i'd rather blame von bismarck tbh. 763838;1406006253;mircea_popescu;it's not the jew's fault that old otto wanted functionaries and officers and so started schooling the peasantry, whether the peasantry wanted any schooling or not. 763839;1406006409;Vexual;shalom 763840;1406006430;Vexual;salaam 763841;1406006490;asciilifeform;'Nowadays humanity depends basically on the whale for its nourishment with fats. I gather that the number of whales in the seas of the world tends rather to fall than to increase. The East will supply us with the vegetable fats that will replace whale-oil.' 763842;1406006496;asciilifeform;true genius! 763843;1406006508;asciilifeform;amazing! observation. 763844;1406006508;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 763845;1406006533;mircea_popescu;well... wrong in all particular points tho. it was chiefly tallow all through history, not whale fat. 763846;1406006534;asciilifeform;http://www.archive.org/stream/HitlersTableTalk/HitlersTableTalk_djvu.txt 763847;1406006537;assbot;Full text of "Hitlers Table Talk" 763848;1406006546;mircea_popescu;and it was the west (specifically, the french, that made margerine. and linoleum) 763849;1406006553;asciilifeform;wrong in all particular points << carefully picked for this 763850;1406006581;asciilifeform;'The water-cooled engine will have to disappear completely.' 763851;1406006611;asciilifeform;'Instead of obtaining petrol from coal by a complicated process, it's preferable to compel certain categories of users to employ vehicles equipped with gas-generators.' << incidentally this was what 'gasenwagen' originally meant. 763852;1406006629;asciilifeform;they're still on the roads, i'm told, in pissholes like finland. 763853;1406006652;mircea_popescu;all over europe. most cabs burn gpl. 763854;1406006670;asciilifeform;no, no. not liquified gasses. coal gas. 763855;1406006685;mircea_popescu;the difference is nigligible. 763856;1406006688;mircea_popescu;whale gas. 763857;1406006692;asciilifeform;http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/woodgascar.jpg 763858;1406006695;asciilifeform;that one. CO. 763859;1406006713;asciilifeform;^ yes, it's a stove. 763860;1406006718;Vexual;thats a mobile sauna 763861;1406006725;mircea_popescu;lol 763862;1406006732;asciilifeform;the 'other sauna.' 763863;1406006938;Vexual;rba boss says real economy needs "animal spirits" 763864;1406007073;Vexual;no dollar policy? 763865;1406007209;TheNewDeal;animal spirits sounds tasty 763866;1406007400;Vexual;growth expected 763867;1406007560;Vexual;aka wait and see 763868;1406007604;Vexual;meahwhile... 763869;1406008313;TheNewDeal;what does the line indicate on the bitbet.us histograph? 763870;1406008372;TheNewDeal;I'm quite fairly sure I understand the greenish vs red colors. But there's also a, perhaps, darker green line as well. 763871;1406008374;mircea_popescu;total volume 763872;1406008384;TheNewDeal;ahhhh 763873;1406008409;mircea_popescu;it being monotonous is kind of a giveaway 763874;1406008523;TheNewDeal;what do you mean? 763875;1406008541;mircea_popescu;notice how it always goes up ? 763876;1406008561;TheNewDeal;well I never really noticed it before 763877;1406008571;mircea_popescu;bitbet. giving the bitcoin population the sort of graphs it wants to see. since 2012. 763878;1406008599;TheNewDeal;not so mach 763879;1406008608;TheNewDeal;I want to see a game of life style graph 763880;1406008628;TheNewDeal;war of life * 763881;1406011623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00081098 = 3.7711 BTC [+] 763882;1406016671;jurov;http://www.ahametals.com/most-expensive-bitcoin-painting/ 763883;1406016672;assbot;The Most Expensive Bitcoin Painting Ever Sold - American Hard Assets 763884;1406016679;jurov;BLOCKCHAIN JESUS 763885;1406017280;fluffypony;holy shit, Bitcoin Judas is Mark Karpeles - LOL! 763886;1406022603;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13670 @ 0.00080961 = 11.0674 BTC [-] {2} 763887;1406023060;fluffypony;what just happened 763888;1406023088;xmj;what? 763889;1406023095;fluffypony;netsplit? 763890;1406023559;pankkake;yes 763891;1406023623;fluffypony;kk 763892;1406023686;xmj;What's the best way of trust brokering you've found so far? instilling trust between two parties that do not yet now each other directly.) 763893;1406023979;fluffypony;depends 763894;1406024007;fluffypony;if it's transactional, then a series of progressively larger escrowed deals establish historicity 763895;1406024011;fluffypony;from which trust can be derived 763896;1406024047;xmj;that works well in an iterative context 763897;1406024059;xmj;how do you instill trust -right from the start- ? 763898;1406024065;cazalla;anyone want to buy 10k atc? 763899;1406024086;xmj;fluffypony: suppose i know you and cazalla but you don't know each other 763900;1406024098;xmj;fluffypony: suppose ive had a good history of business deals with each of you 763901;1406024108;fluffypony;well that's what the WoT is for 763902;1406024110;xmj;fluffypony: how do i leverage that into getting you two to trust each other? 763903;1406024116;fluffypony;cazalla wants to sell 10k ATC 763904;1406024119;fluffypony;I've never dealt with cazalla 763905;1406024129;fluffypony;you trust cazalla , I trust you, I talk to you about your trust relationship with cazalla 763906;1406024141;xmj;WoT works well if you have any formal (eg software) framework for WoT'ing 763907;1406024386;xmj;how do you do that in more loose (ie social) networks? 763908;1406024587;cazalla;;;sell 10000 ATC at 0.00000220 BTC 0.00000220 or better send PM 763909;1406024588;gribble;Order id 21124 created. 763910;1406024620;xmj;hmhm 763911;1406024645;fluffypony;tough one 763912;1406024703;xmj;i'll figure something out 763913;1406024714;xmj;it's my longterm (>5 years) plan, i have time. 763914;1406024740;fluffypony;a WoT Facebook plugin :-P 763915;1406024777;xmj;WoT as a Service. 763916;1406024781;xmj;Cloud WoT 763917;1406024787;xmj;Cloud of Trust. 763918;1406024788;xmj;bingo. 763919;1406024866;pankkake;that's what linkedin is supposed to be, too 763920;1406024896;fluffypony;CoT 763921;1406024898;fluffypony;I'm down with that 763922;1406025114;xmj;did you just buy the .com domain? 763923;1406025139;xmj;no, my order went through. 763924;1406025150;xmj;cloudoftrust.{com,org} 763925;1406025160;fluffypony;lol 763926;1406025206;xmj;there was a lot of drinking involved yesterday. 763927;1406025210;*;xmj coughs 763928;1406025237;fluffypony;I wore my DM Baar t-shirt yesterday 763929;1406025251;xmj;awesome 763930;1406025287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3000 @ 0.00278558 = 8.3567 BTC [-] {22} 763931;1406025306;xmj;i've resolved to running game on -everyone- 763932;1406025803;xmj;it does seem like in non-formal contexts iterative interaction history is the common way 763933;1406025809;xmj;there has to be a better deal. 763934;1406028066;chetty;xmj: it does seem like in non-formal contexts iterative interaction history is the common way xmj: there has to be a better deal// seriously trust is pretty much a function that can not be delegated 763935;1406028137;xmj;i bet it can 763936;1406028353;chetty;perhaps I should have said, shouldn't be. people do manage all sorts of stupids 763937;1406028382;xmj;delegation isn't the part that interests me 763938;1406028382;pankkake;a good example would be those btc lending sites 763939;1406028386;xmj;proxying and facilitating. 763940;1406028393;pankkake;which use social for verification or something 763941;1406028773;chetty;thing is blind trust gets folks in trouble all the time, how many people thought Gox was ok because everybody is using it? 763942;1406028916;chetty;(btw this is a discussion worth having imo, just in case there is a solution) 763943;1406029072;xmj;Science to the rescue. 763944;1406029082;xmj;Lucky for me there's a whole subfield of Game theory. 763945;1406029088;xmj;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1843493 763946;1406029089;assbot;The Human Face of Game Theory: Trust and Reciprocity in Sequential Games by Catherine C. Eckel, Rick K. Wilson :: SSRN 763947;1406029093;xmj;http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899825603001192 763948;1406029095;assbot;How to identify trust and reciprocity 763949;1406029108;xmj;http://www.nber.org/papers/w5864 763950;1406029109;assbot;Trust in Large Organizations 763951;1406029199;punkman;xmj: WoT works well if you have any formal (eg software) framework for WoT'ing <- no that's exactly when WoT can fail catastrophically 763952;1406029206;punkman;trust is fuzzy 763953;1406029233;xmj;sure 763954;1406029234;punkman;and you can't magically make it appear out of thin air 763955;1406029241;xmj;you should. 763956;1406029266;xmj;Oh look: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2586897?uid=3737920&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104515428523 763957;1406029268;assbot;JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie 763958;1406029269;punkman;because you like the idea? 763959;1406029394;cazalla;well if it isn't the merchant meme teasing redditor Pierre_Rochard 763960;1406029429;Pierre_Rochard;Morning cazalla. We get complaints about that one every time it shows up 763961;1406029435;xmj;punkman: mostly because i work that way 763962;1406029467;xmj;A tells me they trust B, which makes me trust B through A's proxying (conditional on my estimation of A) 763963;1406029503;punkman;that doesn't create trust where there is none 763964;1406029519;xmj;we're not talking about that situation anyway? 763965;1406029542;punkman;sounded like that to me 763966;1406029567;xmj;A B C. how does B leverage his bonds between B<>A and B<>C to make A C appear/ 763967;1406029567;punkman;if you have an indirect connection you talk to that guy first of course 763968;1406029570;xmj;? 763969;1406029597;xmj;sure, that's from the perspective of A. think of it from B's perspective! 763970;1406029599;pankkake;"You seem to be unaware that CoinLenders and Inputs are independent. They've always quite clearly stated that there are no warranties of any kind for coins stored there, as such I do not owe you your claimed amount" 763971;1406029634;fluffypony;lol 763972;1406029646;fluffypony;if this was twitter I'd hashtag that with #delusional 763973;1406029659;punkman;xmj, I suppose that's when B acts as escrow 763974;1406029679;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00081126 = 7.9503 BTC [+] {3} 763975;1406029680;punkman;he could escrow a fidelity bond 763976;1406029774;xmj;interesting 763977;1406029784;xmj;i did not know escrow was the term i was looking for 763978;1406029910;chetty;I trust MP, if MP says he trusts B, should I trust B or should I do my own homework? 763979;1406029959;punkman;chetty, the answer is both, but if the trust connections are good enough, you could skip the due dilligence 763980;1406030003;chetty;exactly, and the crux is the 'good enough', a judgment call 763981;1406030093;punkman;I'd rephrase that, WoT is an avenue where you do due dilligence. You trust MP enough, you can stop your search after getting the "go-ahead" from MP 763982;1406030117;punkman;or you can keep going, look in other WoTs, public records, etc 763983;1406030193;fluffypony;chetty: yeah, it depends on the type of transaction as well 763984;1406030208;fluffypony;like if the person wants to trade 0.1 BTC I'd risk it based on the mutual connection 763985;1406030250;punkman;if the due diligence doesn't get you anywhere, then you still have other tools. The fidelity bond is a good one, insurance another... any other good examples? 763986;1406030401;fluffypony;just in case nobody's seen this: https://twitter.com/embee/status/416121742738739200 763987;1406030421;chetty;fluffypony, a lot of trust is built like that, in small steps 763988;1406030431;punkman;this is quite common: if C trusts the B->A connection, but A doesn't trust B->C, then C will often "send first" as to eliminate risk for A at his expense. 763989;1406030496;xmj;so 763990;1406030511;xmj;it seems to turn out that the way to skip the homework is solved 763991;1406030514;xmj;http://www.bristol.ac.uk/cmpo/publications/papers/2006/wp154.pdf 763992;1406030564;xmj;within the trust game you just need to deposit enough money with the trust escrow to make the other party likely of investing. you'll obtain efficient outcomes. 763993;1406030765;fluffypony;oh man 763994;1406030767;fluffypony;this is awesome 763995;1406030767;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4 763996;1406030767;assbot;"Weird Al" Yankovic - Mission Statement - YouTube 763997;1406030950;chetty;of course thats one way con games work too, suck people in for a while with small 'investments' 763998;1406031289;xmj;aaaand 763999;1406031293;xmj;i've just found my calling. 764000;1406031297;xmj;tadatadaaaaaaa 764001;1406032363;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00081221 = 11.5334 BTC [+] {2} 764002;1406033644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0008136 = 11.3497 BTC [+] {2} 764003;1406036206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7410 @ 0.0008127 = 6.0221 BTC [-] 764004;1406037527;thickasthieves;<+mircea_popescu> someone or the other had introduced this option to "copy" other trader's strategy /// PAMM 764005;1406037621;thickasthieves;<+jurov> BLOCKCHAIN JESUS /// that's one sorry painting... 764006;1406040232;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.1634 = 1.634 BTC [+] {2} 764007;1406040415;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00081406 = 5.6577 BTC [+] {3} 764008;1406040415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 100 @ 0.16148499 = 16.1485 BTC [-] {3} 764009;1406040476;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.16 = 0.64 BTC [-] 764010;1406041053;mircea_popescu;http://www.merchantwarrior.com/ << derpforum has created... AN OLD STYLE PAYMENT GATEWAY!!11 764011;1406041057;assbot;Merchant Warrior - Online Payment Gateway to Accept Credit Card & Check Payments 764012;1406041057;mircea_popescu;be excited!!11 764013;1406041112;fluffypony;hah hah 764014;1406041155;mircea_popescu;jurov http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/The-Bitcoin-Supper.jpg << that shit's unmitigatedly ugly 764015;1406041171;mircea_popescu;not just because all the humanoid figurines seem to be really the same alien, 764016;1406041227;mircea_popescu;but mostly because the fundamental problem the "painter" has with his craft manifests not only in the "people" giving the wrong vibe, but the whole scene having the wrong atmosphere. that room looks to me like an apartment building in the poor section of petrograd having an amphetamine fueled dream about itself. 764017;1406041312;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/bGyXLhV 764018;1406041312;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 764019;1406041314;nubbins`;final version 764020;1406041340;nubbins`;mp that reminds me of something you'd see painted on a wall in belfast 764021;1406041395;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Giampietrino-Last-Supper-ca-1520.jpg << compare to the sweet, sweet sweetness of giampetrino's original, or with the raphael they were both trying to copy : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Sanzio_01.jpg 764022;1406041463;mircea_popescu;(and yes the raphael is unsurpassed, mostly because the christian church stands with learned antiquity roughly in the position american contemporaneity stands with the learned europe of last century. a cheap, affordable copy that misses all the details which made it worth the while) 764023;1406041528;mircea_popescu;nubbins` imo the o's touching is bad, but what do i know. 764024;1406041582;nubbins`;http://mqwp.org/PhotoGallery/LastSupper.jpg 764025;1406041587;nubbins`;largest version i can find online 764026;1406041597;chetty;mircea_popescu, a cheap, affordable copy that misses all the details which made it worth the while//I thought that was modern china 764027;1406041614;mircea_popescu;chetty that's an even cheaper copy of the cheap copy. 764028;1406041618;nubbins`;this is set in an old newfoundland stagehouse, there's cod drying in the rafters and all kinds of old newfy stuff everywhere 764029;1406041627;mircea_popescu;this progress thing's really working, no wonder the earth is warming. 764030;1406041642;mircea_popescu;the thing's not global in any sense tho. it's just the cheeks that are getting hot. 764031;1406041646;nubbins`;mircea_popescu honestly i was worried it'd look like "NOO" instead of "ZOO" if i separated the Os 764032;1406041658;mircea_popescu;nubbins` soo ? 764033;1406041673;nubbins`;album's called ZOO ;( 764034;1406041687;nubbins`;anyway, you can't really make it out, but pascale's dad is second from the right in that painting 764035;1406041698;mircea_popescu;nubbins` coulda made a very flat Z 764036;1406041700;mircea_popescu;to match 764037;1406041704;nubbins`;which i believe makes him thaddeus? 764038;1406041727;mircea_popescu;nice beard 764039;1406041789;nubbins`;indeed so 764040;1406041916;nubbins`;he did the stations of the cross in a rural newfoundland kind of style too 764041;1406041921;nubbins`;really strange stuff 764042;1406041922;nubbins`;http://mqwp.org/PhotoGallery/Stations/SC11.JPG 764043;1406041935;nubbins`;guy with the hammer is wearing rubber boots 764044;1406042262;mircea_popescu;cazalla: anyone want to buy 10k atc? << yes. 764045;1406042306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 750 @ 0.0027597 = 2.0698 BTC [-] {4} 764046;1406042365;mircea_popescu;chetty: perhaps I should have said, shouldn't be. people do manage all sorts of stupids << dun worry about it. the fuckwit has found the perfect palliative to learning how things that work work, and the submission and ego wound implicit in such learning : he's going to CREATE something that's BETTER. 764047;1406042367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1166 @ 0.00273862 = 3.1932 BTC [-] {3} 764048;1406042383;mircea_popescu;because being 15 is so very fresh, original and unpredictable. 764049;1406042428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 360 @ 0.00270232 = 0.9728 BTC [-] {4} 764050;1406042440;thickasthieves;"A pine tree planted in 2004 in a Los Angeles park in memory of former Beatle George Harrison has died after being infested by beetles." 764051;1406042467;mircea_popescu;well... it did outlive the beatles' popularity... 764052;1406042489;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 194 @ 0.00270006 = 0.5238 BTC [-] {2} 764053;1406042583;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard: Morning cazalla. We get complaints about that one every time it shows up << what's this all aboot ? 764054;1406042601;cazalla;mircea_popescu, price and address? 764055;1406042646;chetty;A U.S. appeals court has struck down subsidies for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act in states that use federal marketplaces to buy coverage. 764056;1406042656;mircea_popescu;cazalla BingoBoingo's my atc broker we'll need him to be here for both. do you mind ? 764057;1406042705;mircea_popescu;chetty wait, what trachery is this ? first govt cuts a deal with states then federal courts get it off the hook for its part of the deal ? 764058;1406042715;cazalla;sure np, 1:30am here though, i'll be back in the morning 764059;1406042827;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: if this was twitter I'd hashtag that with #delusional << is the tradefortress character pulling a goat ? 764060;1406042843;fluffypony;he's pulling a TradeFortress 764061;1406042899;mircea_popescu;this business where one scams a buvncha people, lays low for half a year-ish etc was patented by goat. he did it like 3-4 times to date. 764062;1406042912;mircea_popescu;course many twerps tried since, kenna, klye, you name it. 764063;1406042932;pankkake;TF isn't claiming he's a Trusted Member yet, otherwise it's textbook goat 764064;1406042937;mircea_popescu;punkman: I'd rephrase that, WoT is an avenue where you do due dilligence. You trust MP enough, you can stop your search after getting the "go-ahead" from MP << for that matter mp can even say something like "o, forget it, if he's gypping you for 1.3 BTC I"M paying for it." 764065;1406042971;mircea_popescu;the breadth & width of deals and representations available is endless. 764066;1406042992;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: redditors and buttcoiners get offended by the last image on this article http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/im-hoarding-bitcoins-and-no-you-cant-have-any/ 764067;1406042992;assbot;I'm Hoarding Bitcoins, and No You Can't Have Any | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute 764068;1406042992;pankkake;eh, that's was on my mind. there are some people (they're not in the wot though) I would gladly cover for 764069;1406043027;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's actually an economically positive activity : you know and can evaluate the risk, so you're risking say 1% of 1.3 btc, or 1 bitcent. 764070;1406043035;mircea_popescu;the op however i GAINING a lot more from this than the cost to you. 764071;1406043038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.00258108 = 2.0649 BTC [-] {22} 764072;1406043044;pankkake;they want to get offended, no matter what you do, they'll be offended 764073;1406043047;mircea_popescu;so it's one of those rare cases of money being made out of thin air. 764074;1406043067;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard lol okay. 764075;1406043095;Pierre_Rochard;Ot 764076;1406043119;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: it’s a glorious portrait of our dear leader bitstein, but dats racist 764077;1406043127;mircea_popescu;i love how buttcoiner is by now ambiguous. does it denote bitcoiners identified by one of that small group of vitriolic naysayers born out of me trolling SA, or does it denote one of that very group ? 764078;1406043150;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard omfg is your institute run by jooz ?! 764079;1406043186;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: yes, it’s a deep cover psyop run by the rothschilds and queen of england 764080;1406043195;mircea_popescu;omfg the queen is jewish ?! 764081;1406043208;BingoBoingo;Is this the pankkake approved TF drama? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702654.0 764082;1406043209;assbot;What should I do? TradeFortress 764083;1406043212;mircea_popescu;worst circumcision job ever -> queen of england. 764084;1406043222;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what we paying on atc ? 764085;1406043234;pankkake;yes, she's one of us 764086;1406043236;pankkake;I mean, of them 764087;1406043238;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: He was asking 220, so I passed on it 764088;1406043253;mircea_popescu;well yes but what ~are~ we paying on it 764089;1406043260;BingoBoingo;Right now our highest bid is 210 764090;1406043264;pankkake;BingoBoingo: yes that's my source 764091;1406043269;mircea_popescu;cazalla see, take 200, be happy. 764092;1406043269;cazalla;well you can counter offer, don't be timid 764093;1406043329;bitstein;I really don't appreciate how the Reddit community is judging me by the size of my nose, the length of my beard, and the wringing of my hands. 764094;1406043373;cazalla;BingoBoingo, i'll do 210 764095;1406043394;thickasthieves;bitstein have you considered plastic surgery and behavioral therapy? 764096;1406043403;pankkake;it's just bad faith, the article is praising hoarding which is the jew stereotype; the image is a popular meme; it's an obvious joke and anyone claiming to be offended is lying 764097;1406043404;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00081432 = 1.0586 BTC [+] 764098;1406043417;pankkake;that's why there is no reason to cater to that 764099;1406043434;thickasthieves;it's like the black lady nigger story 764100;1406043443;mircea_popescu;bitstein do you have a good cackle ? 764101;1406043463;thickasthieves;;;google trilema nigger 764102;1406043464;gribble;The nigger homeowners and other niggers pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: ; The nigger, a practical exercise. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Fried chicken pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 764103;1406043480;mircea_popescu;pankkake they don't have to be lying. they could just be stupid. or you know, trained into superficial stupidity by a website dedicated to doing exactly that 764104;1406043488;BingoBoingo;cazalla: 1MPGRCrbib3aFGtTCLF5nADZcLEAgdTu7E post or pm address 764105;1406043489;thickasthieves;;;google trilema rhonda nigger 764106;1406043490;gribble;The nigger, a practical exercise. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Fried chicken pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 764107;1406043500;cazalla;this is bitstein i imagine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU 764108;1406043500;assbot;Le happy merchant has a blast - YouTube 764109;1406043506;pankkake;they're lying, either to the world or to themselves 764110;1406043509;pankkake;!search nigger 764111;1406043510;assbot;196 results for 'nigger' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nigger 764112;1406043513;mircea_popescu;well actually, since i got all the internet jews collected here, prepare to BURN!!! 764113;1406043513;thickasthieves;there it is, the chicken one 764114;1406043519;mircea_popescu;alternatively, read this http://trilema.com/2014/shut-up-and-sit-down/ an' tell me what yu think 764115;1406043520;assbot;Shut up and sit down. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 764116;1406043520;bitstein;mircea_popsecu Only when I can get interest rates just high enough 764117;1406043527;mircea_popescu;who else's a joo, benkay, bitcoinpete ? 764118;1406043547;princessnell;all of my faves 764119;1406043550;pankkake;davout? 764120;1406043554;cazalla;i'm 3% according to 23andme.com but it's cancelled out by 3% african i figure 764121;1406043555;benkay;we p great 764122;1406043558;benkay;morning, princessnell 764123;1406043558;mircea_popescu;nah, jews can't have big cocks 764124;1406043567;mircea_popescu;and a horse in my wot told me it's seen davout's. 764125;1406043568;bitstein;thickasthieves - thinking of nose jobs got me listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc 764126;1406043569;assbot;Frank Zappa- Jewish Princess - YouTube 764127;1406043572;davout;pankkake: you rubbed the lamp? 764128;1406043575;thickasthieves;my ancient ancestors were jews i think, then they changed their names food and went to the azores or sumth 764129;1406043582;princessnell;this is true. but they are still fun. 764130;1406043587;princessnell;hiya benkay 764131;1406043589;thickasthieves;to food* 764132;1406043589;pankkake;davout: we're looking for jews 764133;1406043598;fluffypony;are we going to throw the Jew down the well? 764134;1406043599;pankkake;23andme tells you how jew you are? that's awesome 764135;1406043602;davout;pankkake: i'm only jew during business hours sorry 764136;1406043603;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves given that by now your ancestry has covered half the world, i 764137;1406043605;benkay;no one expects the bitcoin inquisition 764138;1406043608;mircea_popescu;d be very worried if you ever have daughters. 764139;1406043609;princessnell;i'm 0.1% of the tribe 764140;1406043616;thickasthieves;hehe 764141;1406043632;princessnell;and 3.1% neanderthal master race 764142;1406043639;pankkake;I know I have a jewish antisemite ancestor, but I don't know how much jew is left 764143;1406043640;cazalla;3.4% here 764144;1406043650;mircea_popescu;pankkake you used the jew up ? 764145;1406043679;davout;cazalla: hah you did the 23andme thing 764146;1406043687;davout;i got 25% ashkenazi 764147;1406043694;thickasthieves;need some rejewvenation 764148;1406043699;cazalla;i'm 3% ashkenazi 764149;1406043706;fluffypony;my favourite jews are orange jews 764150;1406043711;fluffypony;although mango juice isn't bad 764151;1406043724;fluffypony;or a pineapple / banana jews blend 764152;1406043736;bitstein;princessnell is actually a conglomeration of 14000 people 764153;1406043736;mircea_popescu;god i love frank zappa 764154;1406043752;fluffypony;bitstein: has she passed the Turing test? 764155;1406043783;mircea_popescu;princessnell> this is true. but they are still fun. << wait, wut ? you dare speak of like your sexual experience ? as a woman among men ? on the interwebs ? 764156;1406043788;mircea_popescu;THE HERESIES THIS MORNING 764157;1406043841;princessnell;i don't pass turing tests, i conduct them 764158;1406043872;mircea_popescu;A horny little Jewish Princess With a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma Lonely inside Well, she can swallow my pride 764159;1406043949;bitstein;la la la 764160;1406043964;benkay;me, i like the shiksas 764161;1406043970;princessnell;you don't say 764162;1406043972;mircea_popescu;and he even mentions romanian thighs. which, yes... romanian chicks have the best thighs. 764163;1406043974;mircea_popescu;just thick enough. 764164;1406043975;benkay;"how do they go, after the show..." 764165;1406043982;benkay;"all the way, that's the way they gooooo" 764166;1406043998;benkay;"all the way, and none of their mothers ever see-em to know" 764167;1406044011;mircea_popescu;dat trolling 764168;1406044016;benkay;("with leather?") 764169;1406044025;benkay;joe's garage man. 764170;1406044037;benkay;princessnell: it's a setup for another zappa reference. 764171;1406044051;benkay;fond of japs too 764172;1406044062;princessnell;heh 764173;1406044070;mircea_popescu;i think maybe zappa could be a bitcoin saint. 764174;1406044085;mircea_popescu;sits to the right of the father and advises on policy matters. 764175;1406044113;thickasthieves;me: "Learn how Bitcoin (mining difficulty) works before speaking about it." 764176;1406044114;benkay;satoshi is ancient aliens and the first saint is zappa? 764177;1406044133;thickasthieves;pando: @Bitcoin_Assets "If you're going to make a statement like that, you really should back it up by pointing out what I said wrong. Mining difficulty? Anyone with a PC can mine bitcoin. The amount that can be created per CPU cycle is arbitrarily set by an algorithm (sounds like fiat), and not the state, but it still has no intrinsic value, just like dollars. The value it fetches 764178;1406044133;thickasthieves;on the open market is irrelevant, as all currencies (evne a fiat currency) are subject to the market's whims." 764179;1406044160;thickasthieves;you'd think the tech news rag would have a lcue 764180;1406044170;mircea_popescu;i r nao decode fluffypony's hermetic speech. orange jews are what, manhattanites, because they overtan. and banana jews are jews pretending to be azn to get into stanford. pineapple jews however i dunno! 764181;1406044192;thickasthieves;pineapple jooz are the ones with big dix 764182;1406044198;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves grats, talking to pando nao. 764183;1406044199;fluffypony;I was just quoting my wife, ze Germans can't say "juice" :-P 764184;1406044201;thickasthieves;so giz tatstes better 764185;1406044222;mircea_popescu;fluffypony btw, ever put her in tall campaign boots and with a cute little uniform ? 764186;1406044231;mircea_popescu;schnell! schnell! 764187;1406044258;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00081616 = 6.6109 BTC [+] {2} 764188;1406044276;fluffypony;hah hah 764189;1406044296;mircea_popescu;soo... i just found a wallet i had forgotten all about. like 20 btcv and change in there. 764190;1406044303;mircea_popescu;THIS IS THE LIFE OF JEW! 764191;1406044319;princessnell;lol 764192;1406044334;mircea_popescu;think : most people will live their entire lives without ever having such a fat wallet 764193;1406044342;mircea_popescu;as this thing i forgot about. 764194;1406044368;mircea_popescu;it is good to be the joo. 764195;1406044418;thickasthieves;!s mircea_popescu couch cushions 764196;1406044418;assbot;2 results for 'mircea_popescu couch cushions' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mircea_popescu+couch+cushions 764197;1406044426;mircea_popescu;ono DONT TAKE IT 764198;1406044428;mircea_popescu;ALL MINE 764199;1406044495;mircea_popescu;punkman: this is quite common: if C trusts the B->A connection, but A doesn't trust B->C, then C will often "send first" as to eliminate risk for A at his expense. << https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359006.msg4858300#msg4858300 that concept illustrated. 764200;1406044496;assbot;(NEW WORKS) portraits, commissions, and original paintings by Maureen Gubia 764201;1406044501;fluffypony;donate it to Andreas Antonopoulus 764202;1406044503;fluffypony;he's going to need it 764203;1406044555;mircea_popescu;o look at that! i've comisioned paintings that cost like 20% of the "most expensive bitcoin painting ever made". har har. 764204;1406044560;mircea_popescu;at least mine don't look like shit. 764205;1406044572;mircea_popescu;fluffypony what for ? 764206;1406044584;fluffypony;the coming revolution where he's left behind 764207;1406044621;thickasthieves;"Do you think that smart contracts won't work or that they won't be used? Could you recommend any research that supports your views?" 764208;1406044623;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4 <<< ahahaah definitely. 764209;1406044623;assbot;"Weird Al" Yankovic - Mission Statement - YouTube 764210;1406044638;mircea_popescu;especially the "hands draw as we sing" expansion of stephen fry's "text appears" trick 764211;1406044647;mircea_popescu;that thing was cool, but SO FUCKING OVERPLAYED omg 764212;1406044681;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves "would you mind talking to us in our terms so as to validate our self-perceived importance ty" 764213;1406044807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.81053432 BTC to 12`483 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 764214;1406044853;thickasthieves;First you ignore them, then you laugh at them, then they call you mean, then you win 764215;1406044866;mircea_popescu;well dunno about win, but you definitely score 764216;1406044867;mircea_popescu;with their wife. 764217;1406044868;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.24933044 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1413 satoshi per share 764218;1406044893;mircea_popescu;so today is the sad day i have to sign paperwork for all the llcs and whatnot. 764219;1406044902;mircea_popescu;and the people here actually do signing, like fucking romanians. 764220;1406044908;mircea_popescu;my hand will fall off ;/ 764221;1406044956;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu get a stamp 764222;1406044980;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones i might have to. 764223;1406044989;mircea_popescu;i mean everyone gets as a kid this urge to write their name on things, 764224;1406045002;mircea_popescu;but i tell you by the time you're a decade or so in business that itch's well scratched. 764225;1406045040;mircea_popescu;fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc :D 764226;1406045040;assbot;"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes - YouTube 764227;1406045076;fluffypony;yeah that's my favourite of his new songs so far 764228;1406045088;fluffypony;although the music video for Tacky is amazing 764229;1406045088;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 764230;1406045089;mircea_popescu;guy's like the madonna of b music 764231;1406045102;fluffypony;this is his last album under contract 764232;1406045122;fluffypony;so hopefully the stuff he releases after this will be indie and not with a record company 764233;1406045150;thickasthieves;NFLX down 5% today :) glad I hung in there 764234;1406045166;thickasthieves;short covered 764235;1406045184;mircea_popescu;fluffypony why ? 764236;1406045194;mircea_popescu;he is the exact central case that benefits from a rec corp. 764237;1406045205;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves wd. 764238;1406045280;thickasthieves;ty sir 764239;1406045327;benkay; bitbet. giving the bitcoin population the sort of graphs it wants to see. since 2012. // i want a shirt that has a bunch of zig-zaggy up-and-to-the-right arrows patterned across it 764240;1406045357;benkay;http://businessintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tumblr_mba5v5Cusu1qz61voo1_500.jpg 764241;1406045409;mircea_popescu;benkay so why you tellin me about it ? nubsy's the local master of bad drawings and well printed shirts. 764242;1406045455;benkay;nubbins` prints across the whole bolt and then makes shirts? nooz to me... 764243;1406045510;nubbins`;we don't sew, but i suppose an all-over print isn't out of the question 764244;1406045511;mircea_popescu;well, if anyone does he'd know aboot it. 764245;1406045537;mircea_popescu;nubbins`> we don't sew << i thought you were married 764246;1406045594;nubbins`;i thought it was tuesday 764247;1406045634;mircea_popescu;if it were tuesday it'd have been belgium. 764248;1406045638;mircea_popescu;it ain't belgium now is it ? 764249;1406045730;chetty;you sure? 764250;1406045762;nubbins`;i'm not even sure this is the right bus 764251;1406045784;mircea_popescu;this is progressing nicely. !jewlaugh 764252;1406045947;thickasthieves;I'm gonna visit Seattle and Portland, in case anyone has any recommendations/warnings for things 764253;1406045969;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves walk with your back against the wall in seattle. nuff said. 764254;1406046014;thickasthieves;lol 764255;1406046015;benkay;thickasthieves: beers? 764256;1406046037;thickasthieves;i like some IPA, witbier, belgian, stout 764257;1406046058;mircea_popescu;Transcript for 21-07-2014, 666 lines << o.O 764258;1406046393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 299 @ 0.00250534 = 0.7491 BTC [-] {11} 764259;1406046477;thickasthieves;local newspaper: "the specs are 10.625” w x 10’ t." 764260;1406046489;thickasthieves;10feet, width by tall 764261;1406046493;thickasthieves;lol 764262;1406046530;nubbins`;hahahah 764263;1406046541;nubbins`;width by tallth 764264;1406046607;mircea_popescu;lol 764265;1406046884;mircea_popescu;you know upon reflection, the ' " convention has to be the most stupid thing ever invented. on top of the inch/feet thing in the first place, obviously. 764266;1406046897;mircea_popescu;imagine all the bills of goods that had either a small smidgeon added or removed by accident 764267;1406046908;mircea_popescu;resulting in various disproportionate items delivered to unsuspecting merchants. 764268;1406046926;mircea_popescu;I SAID MY PENIS STATUE SHOULD BE 12 inches not 12 feet!!1 764269;1406047086;nubbins`;hardly a statue 764270;1406047218;mircea_popescu;hard hard hard. 764271;1406048090;pankkake;I never know which it which. maybe " is feet because it's bigger? 764272;1406048114;pankkake;no, it's not. of course it's not 764273;1406048434;FabianB;use the metric system, [√] fixed 764274;1406048698;thickasthieves;itd be funny if this was a major reason why US is bad at math, fukt measurements 764275;1406048741;thickasthieves;12 inches is a foot? 3' a yard? wtf is going on here? 764276;1406048796;chetty;math is easier with metric but if you grew up using feet and inches its hard to visualize amounts 764277;1406049475;thickasthieves;http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/6703802_700b_v2.jpg 764278;1406050151;benkay;sheeeit, sinfest. 764279;1406050157;benkay;that's still going? 764280;1406050308;thickasthieves;never heard of it til now, but looks like yes 764281;1406050909;benkay;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/undocumented-ios-functions-allow-monitoring-of-personal-data-expert-says/ 764282;1406050910;assbot;Undocumented iOS functions allow monitoring of personal data, expert says | Ars Technica 764283;1406050990;benkay;the hit counter is back http://www.addthis.com/ 764284;1406050990;assbot;AddThis - Get likes, get shares, get followers 764285;1406051334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1611 @ 0.00081596 = 1.3145 BTC [-] 764286;1406051577;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1d5a0CcAIji1B.png 764287;1406051649;benkay;expert system, i lol'd 764288;1406051680;cgcardona_;hello #bitcoin-assets o/ 764289;1406052037;jurov;hi cgcardona_ 764290;1406052070;mthreat;hola 764291;1406052217;cgcardona_;o/ 764292;1406052424;cgcardona_;;;ticker 764293;1406052426;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.43, Best ask: 623.88, Bid-ask spread: 2.45000, Last trade: 624.4, 24 hour volume: 3366.37636030, 24 hour low: 617.18, 24 hour high: 624.99, 24 hour vwap: 622.530252055 764294;1406053164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 529 @ 0.00250792 = 1.3267 BTC [-] {9} 764295;1406053286;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081596 = 5.7933 BTC [-] 764296;1406053652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 45 @ 0.01379995 = 0.621 BTC [+] {3} 764297;1406054994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.0139999 = 0.756 BTC [+] {2} 764298;1406055055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 66 @ 0.01437877 = 0.949 BTC [+] {5} 764299;1406055178;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 336 @ 0.00263689 = 0.886 BTC [-] {2} 764300;1406055299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 506 @ 0.00263864 = 1.3352 BTC [+] {2} 764301;1406056098;BingoBoingo;http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2014/07/20/well-find-a-new-earth-within-20-years/ 764302;1406056099;assbot;Well find a new earth within 20 years | Around the World with Ken Ham 764303;1406056558;BingoBoingo;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/22/165231/exodus-intelligence-details-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-tails-os 764304;1406056560;assbot;Exodus Intelligence Details Zero-Day Vulnerabilities In Tails OS - Slashdot 764305;1406058028;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 764306;1406058034;BingoBoingo;Hey Mats_cd03 764307;1406058044;Mats_cd03;sup 764308;1406058067;Mats_cd03;http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/11/26/wheels-of-fortune p gud article about driving in .cn 764309;1406058067;assbot;Wheels of Fortune - The New Yorker 764310;1406058110;Mats_cd03;http://weis2007.econinfosec.org/papers/29.pdf re: market for 0days. notably, all of the problems enscribed are basically resolvable through GPG and the WoT. 764311;1406058531;nubbins`;yup. 764312;1406058540;nubbins`;SR did this right, at least 764313;1406058728;nubbins`;i guess the current system works well enough for the vendors, otherwise you'd see this 764314;1406058852;Mats_cd03;hue hue hue 764315;1406058967;asciilifeform;http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/cybercrime-conference-talk-idUSL2N0PW14320140721 764316;1406058967;assbot;Talk on cracking Internet anonymity service Tor withdrawn from conference| Reuters 764317;1406059095;Mats_cd03;thx DoD 764318;1406059423;Mats_cd03;today, i learned Windows will never use the first mb of physical memory for anything, because buggy firmware corrupts it so often 764319;1406059564;Mats_cd03;and, there is an ACPI table exclusively for telling Windows not to apply fixes for buggy hardware because its in a VM, and VMM emulation of the hardware doesn't include said bugs. 764320;1406059584;thickasthieves;local redneck on facebook: "I am offering free bungee jumping to all Muslims - no strings attached." 764321;1406059742;thickasthieves;http://i.imgur.com/OJChRcu.gif 764322;1406059770;chetty;thickasthieves, uhoh now I have a coffeed keyboard 764323;1406059837;thickasthieves;hehe 764324;1406059841;thickasthieves;http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/22/5927107/faa-temporarily-halts-all-us-flights-to-israel 764325;1406059841;assbot;FAA temporarily halts all US flights to Israel | The Verge 764326;1406059893;thickasthieves;that's one way to get people outta your airspace for a while 764327;1406060090;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 764328;1406060098;Mats_cd03;aw ur da best 764329;1406060183;BingoBoingo;;;laser Mats_cd03 764330;1406060184;gribble;Error: "laser" is not a valid command. 764331;1406060190;BingoBoingo;;;lasers 764332;1406060190;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 764333;1406060204;BingoBoingo;;;laser kittens 764334;1406060204;gribble;Error: "laser" is not a valid command. 764335;1406060259;BingoBoingo;%t 764336;1406060266;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 237 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 59k High: 211 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 764337;1406060480;Mats_cd03;http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iOS_Backdoors_Attack_Points_Surveillance_Mechanisms.pdf re: iOS vuln posted by benkay 764338;1406060481;assbot;404 Not Found 764339;1406060492;Mats_cd03;...wat 764340;1406060495;benkay;ah neat, Mats_cd03 764341;1406060511;benkay;hue 764342;1406060518;Mats_cd03;https://archive.org/details/pdfy-_p-Q8wuJhsIekNT4 764343;1406060519;assbot;iOS_Backdoors_Attack_Points_Surveillance_Mechanisms.pdf (PDFy mirror) : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive 764344;1406060595;Mats_cd03;hue hue hue hue hue hue hue 764345;1406061225;Mats_cd03;man, The Rootkit Arsenal is really good 764346;1406061289;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: nice little book, at least concerning the basics. 764347;1406061304;Mats_cd03;i'm basic. 764348;1406061405;thickasthieves;Florida Power and Light powers the state using mostly natural gas. Out of all the energy FPL provides, only 0.06 percent comes from solar energy. 764349;1406061413;thickasthieves;“We’re not doing as bad as people think we are,” says Martinez. “But I think we’ll have an opportunity to advance as the price continues to come down.” 764350;1406061419;thickasthieves;“I think in the state of Florida our challenge is the amount of rainfall and the amount of cloud coverage we have,” says Martinez. “Obviously Florida has good potential. It’s not great potential.” 764351;1406061426;thickasthieves;lol 764352;1406061433;thickasthieves;sunshine state aint sunny enough 764353;1406061438;thickasthieves;suuure 764354;1406061471;thickasthieves;http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wlrn/files/styles/placed_wide/public/201407/SOLARINFOGRAPHICREALFINAL.png 764355;1406061634;Mats_cd03;i don't know anything about physics or solar panels. is there some kind of limited power generation even under cloud cover? UV is what made me consider this 764356;1406061716;thickasthieves;the thing is FL clouds are quite temporary 764357;1406061752;Mats_cd03;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqGEbROFd4 764358;1406061752;assbot;Ed Sheeran - Don't [Official Audio] - YouTube 764359;1406061779;BingoBoingo;thickasthieves: I think clouds are temporary except up in Benkay land 764360;1406061809;thickasthieves;yeah i only learned recently that I get more rain than seattle 764361;1406061823;thickasthieves;which is disappointing cuz i like rain and I am unsatisfied 764362;1406061831;mike_c;that is a common and misleading yardstick 764363;1406061846;mike_c;because it generally means inches of rain, not days of rain 764364;1406061863;mike_c;and seattle just drizzles at you every day of the year. 764365;1406061900;Mats_cd03;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqGEbROFd4 764366;1406061901;assbot;Ed Sheeran - Don't [Official Audio] - YouTube 764367;1406061931;thickasthieves;Mats_cd03, got Vexualvirus? 764368;1406061932;Mats_cd03;ewps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26J98jG_j4k 764369;1406061932;assbot;Schoolboy Q - The Purge / Rapfix Cypher (20syl Remix) - YouTube 764370;1406062102;benkay;thickasthieves, BingoBoingo: best solar is soy oil 764371;1406062168;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/rabite/status/491686137266995200 764372;1406062200;BingoBoingo;Hey @Medium @marklotto @davidkushner, I have some corrections for your article. https://medium.com/matter/the-martyrdom-of-weev-9e72da8a133d 764373;1406062201;assbot;How We All Got Trolled Matter Medium 764374;1406062806;thickasthieves;"The federal judge that presided over my case is not an African-American. She is a nigger." 764375;1406062826;thickasthieves;"Dude, they called you elfin, when you are very clearly a satyr." lol 764376;1406063046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081327 = 5.7742 BTC [-] 764377;1406063673;thickasthieves;http://coinbrief.net/debunking-kipochi-mpesa-bitcoin-kenya/ 764378;1406063674;assbot;Debunking Kipochi, Mpesa & Bitcoin in East Africa - CoinBrief 764379;1406063754;BingoBoingo;!up princessnell 764380;1406063772;BingoBoingo;!up Guest60346 764381;1406063843;fluffypony;hah hah 764382;1406063846;fluffypony;fucking idiots 764383;1406063858;thickasthieves;<+mike_c> and seattle just drizzles at you every day of the year. /// so i will fly there and settle this once and for all! 764384;1406063930;mike_c;now is actually the time to go. it actually only rains nine months a year. summers are beautiful. 764385;1406064021;thickasthieves;well shit itll be a month before i go, but i want teh rainz 764386;1406064087;thickasthieves;my wife wants to look at trees n stuff though, so i guess good weather is for the best 764387;1406064175;mike_c;well, the only rainforest in america is right there, so you could both have your wish 764388;1406064760;*;danielpbarron got banned from #bitcoin again; gmaxwell is a dick. 764389;1406065002;thickasthieves;good log? 764390;1406065106;BingoBoingo;http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431 764391;1406065107;assbot;The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks 764392;1406065590;danielpbarron;thickasthieves, meh sorta; I linked to the log in my rating for him 764393;1406065958;jurov; danielpbarron: owner of mpex is unsafe to do business with, he does things like put surprising terms in the fine print of his contracts and then gloats about how you deserved to get ripped off and what a moron you are when you get caught out. 764394;1406065974;jurov;last sentence before kick 764395;1406066035;mike_c;hm. "suprising" to whom? 764396;1406066104;BingoBoingo;Mircea generally writes on the interwebs so you can always zoom his text to any size you like 764397;1406066114;danielpbarron;good thing the devs have their chat rooms to lord over; they don't really control much of anything else 764398;1406066148;BingoBoingo;;;rate danielpbarron Religious thinker, Meat dealer 764399;1406066148;gribble;Error: 'Religious' is not a valid integer. 764400;1406066162;BingoBoingo;;;rate danielpbarron 3 Religious thinker, Meat dealer 764401;1406066163;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danielpbarron has changed from 2 to 3. 764402;1406066183;danielpbarron;wow a 3; i feel special now 764403;1406066276;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, you rate people well and did indeed deliver ~20 million meat 764404;1406066305;danielpbarron;the -otc crowd says I don't know how to rate 764405;1406066398;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, that's why the most important part of reading a WoT is asking a rater about their ratings 764406;1406066458;BingoBoingo;Bitcore, BitPays open-source javascript bitcoin library, now uses Fedor Indutnys highly optimized cryptography in the browser, which leads to significant speed improvements and an improved user experience for applications built with Bitcore. << Shit's prolly being optimized out 764407;1406066466;BingoBoingo;http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/22/bitcore-3000-is-three-times-faster-for-bitcoin-on-the-web.html 764408;1406066466;assbot;Bitcore 3000 is Three Times Faster for Bitcoin on the Web | The BitPay Blog 764409;1406066495;jurov;lose yer coins 3x faster!!! 764410;1406066857;mircea_popescu; 12 inches is a foot? 3' a yard? wtf is going on here? 764411;1406066881;mircea_popescu;^ my fav exercise is, "calculate the pound weight of a cubic mile of water" 764412;1406066917;mircea_popescu;(a cubic km of water weighs 1trn kgs, of course) 764413;1406067155;mircea_popescu;<BingoBoingo> http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2014/07/20/well-find-a-new-earth-within-20-years/ << ya but will it be legal. 764414;1406067156;assbot;Well find a new earth within 20 years | Around the World with Ken Ham 764415;1406067229;danielpbarron;ken ham is a false teacher that leads many to hell 764416;1406067287;mircea_popescu;A Black Hat spokeswoman told Reuters that the talk had been canceled at the request of lawyers for Carnegie-Mellon University, where the speakers work as researchers. <<< this is why scientists of today are in no sense the scientists of 1914, and even less the scientists of 1814. 764417;1406067300;mircea_popescu;the notion that the current crop has any sort of moral or ethical weight is quite perilous. 764418;1406067373;mircea_popescu;<thickasthieves> http://i.imgur.com/OJChRcu.gif << whoa that shit's cool! 764419;1406067636;thickasthieves;must be some kinda camera mount 764420;1406067744;mircea_popescu;;;rated gmaxwell 764421;1406067745;gribble;You rated user gmaxwell on Sun Apr 8 12:54:19 2012, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: hypocritical idiot.. 764422;1406067755;mircea_popescu;wow, i was right two years ago. 764423;1406067777;mircea_popescu;anyway, what specific gloating is this in reference to ? 764424;1406067792;mircea_popescu;tell wikipedia boi i said citation needed. 764425;1406067809;mircea_popescu;i gloat over fat fucks being predictably stupid, not over the deck being stacked against them. 764426;1406068006;thickasthieves;"Another benefit to Tacocoin is its active community. Tacocoin was started on reddit, with the sole intent of having fun. The coin has no premine, and steady growth, because our community values trust and fun, not getting rich quick." 764427;1406068041;mircea_popescu;>< 764428;1406068053;mircea_popescu;if it were about eating cunt i could see the angle. 764429;1406068061;fluffypony;http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/22/britain-just-decriminalised-online-game-piracy/ 764430;1406068061;assbot;Britain just decriminalised online game piracy | VG247 764431;1406068072;mircea_popescu;but this entire "doge got killed for beign stupid so we're going to do it once again because we really are that dumb" thing... 764432;1406068079;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well in that article space isn't important, because aliens go to hell 764433;1406068123;mircea_popescu;"Starting in 2015, persistent file-sharers will be sent four warning letters explaining their actions are illegal, but if the notes are ignored no further action will be taken." doh. 764434;1406068158;thickasthieves;alrighty 764435;1406068176;thickasthieves;do they even go after people in US anymore? 764436;1406068200;thickasthieves;there was that 5 strikes thing or whatever but i never heard of anyone losing their web access 764437;1406068225;mircea_popescu;bout the same yeah. 764438;1406068242;thickasthieves;"I am a fan of making volume obsolete as an indicator" ~bitcoin trader 764439;1406068267;mircea_popescu;http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431 << as usual, joel gets it exactly right. this is why i hate - not frameworks - but java. and all the other hipster languages ran by children with delusions of skills and importance they don't actually have. 764440;1406068268;assbot;The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks 764441;1406068271;mircea_popescu;wikipedia being a fine example. 764442;1406068714;asciilifeform;camera mount with beer glass << if you stayed awake in 'intro to differential equations,' -- you can build this. 764443;1406068795;mircea_popescu;the visual effect tho. 764444;1406068838;asciilifeform;carnegie mellon << 'Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded to perfecti 764445;1406068838;asciilifeform;on and painted with meticulous care.' (mr mold) 764446;1406068844;BingoBoingo;Lol ethereum is selling their own altcoin nao, https://www.ethereum.org/ 764447;1406068845;assbot;ethereum 764448;1406069037;BingoBoingo;"People interested in acquiring ether to build and distribute decentralized applications, or to pay for their usage, are able to do so in the Genesis Sale using bitcoin, thereby locking-in their supply at a known price. This sale will help us fund the continued development of the software platform, scheduled for release in the winter of 2014/2015." << Preorder on a BFL window. Thing could waterialize winter 2014 or winter 2015 764449;1406069098;thickasthieves;like anyone will give a shit by then 764450;1406069106;Pierre_Rochard;BingoBoingo: my favorite part “This document is not a solicitation for investment and does not pertain in any way to an offering of securities in any jurisdiction.” 764451;1406069119;thickasthieves;because we say so! 764452;1406069124;Pierre_Rochard;wonder if they’ll respond like mircea_popescu did when the SEC comes knocking… 764453;1406069149;BingoBoingo;Pierre_Rochard: Even though by simply the way things are they seems to like BFL be actually selling equity rather than product. 764454;1406069165;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform hardly an argument pro carnegie melon, that. 764455;1406069204;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard too many people want to appear mp without putting in the work to actually be mp, nor fronting the risk etc. 764456;1406069250;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not an argument 'pro', merely statement of fact. accept funding from bureaucrats - then eat shit when they command. elementary. 764457;1406069260;thickasthieves;who actually wants these smart contracts anyway? i dont get who ethereum is providing for 764458;1406069273;mircea_popescu;how about not accept funding for bureaucrats because there's no funds in bureaucrat hands ? 764459;1406069281;mircea_popescu;then we can do science. and actual art. 764460;1406069294;mircea_popescu;and all the social media feminists can spend their time writing things on tits. 764461;1406069298;BingoBoingo;If ethereum manages to ship this winter I doubt it's market cap will survive at a size greater than ATC's through April next year 764462;1406069332;mircea_popescu;if anyone wants to enter an etereum short lemme know. 764463;1406069361;thickasthieves;you're betting on ethereum?! 764464;1406069369;mircea_popescu;you can buy ethereum coins for half what they charge, deliverable jan 15th 2015. 764465;1406069385;thickasthieves;heh 764466;1406069405;mircea_popescu;i guess i can make a 3 month future too, if enough demand. 764467;1406069431;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well atm during their pre-sale they price their coins off of a timer, with 1 BTC buying less coins as the timer increments. Haven't seen the details. 764468;1406069433;thickasthieves;itd at least be a fun way to piss them off and fuck up their ipo a bit 764469;1406069446;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves sure. 764470;1406069461;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo fuck them, whatever they ask for is too much. 764471;1406069499;thickasthieves;lol why does their home page give away desktop backgrounds? wtf 764472;1406069543;thickasthieves;"Turing complete contracts on a blockchain." 764473;1406069544;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Of course. K sale ends in roughly 41-42 days, in just under two weeks their offering goes from 2000 per BTC to 1970 per BTC (fucking hippies) 764474;1406069548;mircea_popescu;you don't understand traffix, thickasthieves 764475;1406069563;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo where is this advertised ? 764476;1406069578;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Their home page. 764477;1406069595;mircea_popescu;how did this work again lessee 764478;1406069598;thickasthieves;"Ethereum Genesis Sale" they call it 764479;1406069601;thickasthieves;awesome 764480;1406069620;mircea_popescu;;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" for 1 BTC. 764481;1406069620;gribble;Error: 'for' is not a valid price input. 764482;1406069628;mircea_popescu;;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC. 764483;1406069628;gribble;Order id 21133 created. 764484;1406069630;thickasthieves;"WARNING: DO NOT PURCHASE ETH IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT IN DEALING WITH 764485;1406069630;thickasthieves;CRYPTOGRAPHIC TOKENS AND BLOCKCHAIN-BASED SOFTWARE SYSTEMS" 764486;1406069631;BingoBoingo;Whole site is a js turd 764487;1406069635;mircea_popescu;;;view 21133 764488;1406069635;thickasthieves;wow 764489;1406069637;gribble;#21133 Tue Jul 22 18:53:45 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC. (None) 764490;1406069642;thickasthieves;my soul hurts now 764491;1406069660;mircea_popescu;;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch." 764492;1406069661;gribble;Order id 21134 created. 764493;1406069664;mircea_popescu;;;view 21134 764494;1406069664;gribble;#21134 Tue Jul 22 18:54:18 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC (Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch.) 764495;1406069677;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo or whoever has a reddit acct : put that loglink in ? 764496;1406069690;mircea_popescu;aw shit bad date. 764497;1406069695;mircea_popescu;;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2015" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch." 764498;1406069695;gribble;Order id 21135 created. 764499;1406069698;mircea_popescu;that one. 764500;1406069714;BingoBoingo;K, In the better purchases department http://t.co/rFyjQ2GNsu 764501;1406069715;assbot;Sexy Saffron's Clips 764502;1406069752;mircea_popescu;;;remove 21134 764503;1406069752;gribble;Order 21134 removed. 764504;1406069754;mircea_popescu;;;remove 21133 764505;1406069755;gribble;Order 21133 removed. 764506;1406069819;mircea_popescu;!up DoctorBTC 764507;1406069836;mircea_popescu;;;view 21131 764508;1406069839;gribble;#21131 Tue Jul 22 18:01:45 2014 DoctorBTC SELL 1.0 OTC Handholding @ 0.1 BTC (I'll gently guide you through registering and authing with gribble) 764509;1406069840;mircea_popescu;^ nice idea that. 764510;1406069844;DoctorBTC;lol 764511;1406069851;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot DoctorBTC 764512;1406069851;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask DoctorBTC!~DoctorBTC@unaffiliated/doctorbtc. Trust relationship from user assbot to user DoctorBTC: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=DoctorBTC | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=DoctorBTC | Rated since: Tue Apr 30 19:24:50 2013 764513;1406069860;DoctorBTC;logs get all filled up watching people explain... 764514;1406069862;mircea_popescu;it's needed here like weekly or so. 764515;1406069870;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2bfwaw/mircea_popescu_offers_a_short_of_etherium_coins/ 764516;1406069871;assbot;Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 : CryptoCurrency 764517;1406069939;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo so now, elementary economic theory : if one actually WANTS ethereum coins, they'll buy from me. 764518;1406069952;mircea_popescu;watch how nobody does, and then watch the ethereum people lie about how they sold however many. 764519;1406069967;mircea_popescu;because yes, totally, this happens. 764520;1406069974;thickasthieves;reddit deleted my link to your ethereum thing 764521;1406069993;thickasthieves;mine said "Eccentric European Eviscerates Ethereum's Ether " 764522;1406069995;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You forget the mp eats babies crowd and "momentum traders" who want to flip the thing right away 764523;1406070015;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo yes, i am forgetting the idiots. 764524;1406070024;mircea_popescu;supposedly there's "investors" involved in these crummy shits. 764525;1406070028;thickasthieves;i guess mods got me on speed dial or sumth 764526;1406070033;thickasthieves;:( 764527;1406070038;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves maybe too many e's. 764528;1406070043;mircea_popescu;stop dropping the Es man 764529;1406070047;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I like to think of them as Patrons of the Derps 764530;1406070123;thickasthieves;art is ded 764531;1406070145;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2behuy/doge_just_got_dumped/ << "Cryptsy data from http://doge.yottabyte.nu/ shows that we are down to 138MIL TOTAL Buy order. 764532;1406070146;assbot;Doge just got dumped. : dogecoin 764533;1406070147;assbot;doge.yottabyte.nu - dogecoin value charts btc/doge 764534;1406070147;BingoBoingo;If you simply look at the chart of buy vs sell orders, it can be intuitive to say that some whale decided to cash out. 764535;1406070147;BingoBoingo;Now, what do we do about this? 764536;1406070147;BingoBoingo;Once more, as a reminder, we need to create a reason for people to want to buy in into Dogecoin, and for whales to hold their stash. 764537;1406070147;BingoBoingo;Posting memes and jokes won't do. We have the community, and we have the social media reach. What we don't have is a service or good which is unique to Doge which offers such an incentive to use the currency that Fiat will not dare pee on our post." 764538;1406070168;BingoBoingo;^ Last victim 764539;1406070222;thickasthieves;lol 764540;1406070227;thickasthieves;"What we don't have is a service or good which is unique to Doge which offers such an incentive to use the currency that Fiat will not dare pee on our post." full circle 764541;1406070342;mircea_popescu;lmao 764542;1406070350;BingoBoingo;http://altcoinherald.com/altcoins-currently-community-takeovers/ << Tales from the Bagholder's social club 764543;1406070350;assbot;Altcoins That Are Currently In Community Takeover 764544;1406070360;mircea_popescu;"we have the community, it just so happens to be a community of worthless retards. o noes!" 764545;1406070410;mircea_popescu;must suck, you know, to be one of these fucktards, earnestly believing that everyone's equal and groups are great, 764546;1406070430;mircea_popescu;finding yourself confronted with the sad reality that people aren't equal and groups suck. 764547;1406070450;thickasthieves;they wont notice 764548;1406070457;thickasthieves;just need a better group 764549;1406070482;mircea_popescu;course they won't notice. anything to avoid that ego wound. but still... 764550;1406070694;mircea_popescu;!up Adohgg 764551;1406070699;mircea_popescu;how much you gettin' paid ? 764552;1406070959;BingoBoingo;%d 764553;1406070961;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 665597.03 in 1508 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -3.14 764554;1406071036;BingoBoingo;OMG ATC network is running nearly even!!! 764555;1406071066;mircea_popescu;well mike_c wanted stabilisation so i guess mike_c gets stabilisation. 764556;1406071072;BingoBoingo;;;8ball how much does a petahash of mining hardware sell for anyways 764557;1406071072;gribble;The outlook is good. 764558;1406071093;mike_c;;;calc 687*7 764559;1406071093;gribble;4809 764560;1406071099;mike_c;5 th/s, not bad 764561;1406071131;mike_c;and yes, when mike_c wants something.. it happens :D 764562;1406071151;*;mike_c wants all the coinz 764563;1406071154;mircea_popescu;;;sell 1000000 "Doge coins deliverable 3 or 6 months" 3 BTC "Or less, negotiable by volume and interval. Looking to carry a few billion." 764564;1406071154;gribble;Order id 21136 created. 764565;1406071358;mircea_popescu;meh not enough zeros. 764566;1406071370;mircea_popescu;jesus the dog coin is worthless. 764567;1406071381;BingoBoingo;;;buy 1000000 "Altcoins "Altcoin the sha-256 coin mentioned http://therealaltcoin.org/" 175 "satoshis per Altcoin, other quantities and price points may be entertained" 764568;1406071383;assbot;Page not found | The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again 764569;1406071383;gribble;Error: 'Altcoin' is not a valid price input. 764570;1406071424;BingoBoingo;;;buy 1000000 "Altcoins, the sha-256 coin mentioned http://therealaltcoin.org/" 175 satoshis "per Altcoin, other quantities and price points may be entertained" 764571;1406071425;assbot;Page not found | The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again 764572;1406071425;gribble;Order id 21137 created. 764573;1406071501;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves BingoBoingo's reddit seems to stick, maybe you're shadowbanned ? 764574;1406071505;mircea_popescu;one too many trilema links i nthere. 764575;1406071508;mircea_popescu;!up FoOdies 764576;1406071510;cazalla;;;getrust BingoBoingo 764577;1406071511;gribble;Error: "getrust" is not a valid command. 764578;1406071516;cazalla;;;gettrust BingoBoingo 764579;1406071517;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user cazalla to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=cazalla&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 764580;1406071527;FoOdies;multumesc 764581;1406071552;mircea_popescu;yw 764582;1406071728;BingoBoingo;!up DoctorBTC 764583;1406071814;thickasthieves;selling 1000000 ATC for 100btc 764584;1406071834;mircea_popescu;https://medium.com/matter/the-martyrdom-of-weev-9e72da8a133d << this is kinda weird bullshit. as far as mah sources tell me, weev is fundamentally a guy of strange habits and little computing capcity who just had the guts to publish material some other guy actually produced. he is in any sense a front, not a hacker. 764585;1406071835;assbot;How We All Got Trolled Matter Medium 764586;1406071892;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves sellout! we're building this great community with memes and whatnot and all you wanna do is sell out for btc ?!?!?! 764587;1406071899;cazalla;;;rate BingoBoingo 1 small ATC trade for BTC 764588;1406071901;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. 764589;1406071916;BingoBoingo;;;rate cazalla 1 Bunny slayer 764590;1406071917;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. 764591;1406071990;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I think the applicable term to describe weev is "fall guy" or "meat shield" 764592;1406072010;mircea_popescu;"shield of thorns" 764593;1406072059;BingoBoingo;Crown of Thrones 764594;1406072115;thickasthieves;i'm selling out for the community 764595;1406072123;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/32EM6CF.txt ) 764596;1406072123;mircea_popescu;!b 1 764597;1406072125;mircea_popescu;ahah epic retort. 764598;1406072194;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eT8Ip5mpZ0 << check out the awkwardness lmao. 764599;1406072195;assbot;Frank Zappa Interview (MTV, 1984) - YouTube 764600;1406072199;mircea_popescu;worst interviewer ever. 764601;1406072252;mircea_popescu;bitstein re your hoarders article, you familiar with the power/fetish of power exchange and all that jazz ? 764602;1406072384;bitstein;I don't think so. 764603;1406072494;mircea_popescu;ah well then. 764604;1406072531;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: any reading suggestions on that subject? 764605;1406072547;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/ 764606;1406072548;assbot;The battlefield of the future pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 764607;1406072555;FoOdies;I can't believe I took 10 minutes of my precious life to read about some mentally retarded homophobic racist conspiracy nutjob hacker 764608;1406072555;BigBitz;Cancelled until 2015. 764609;1406072565;FoOdies;thanks obama ( mircea_popescu ) 764610;1406072566;mircea_popescu;a fine excerpt is in there. ballas does a great job of doing the psychiatric basics of it 764611;1406072571;mircea_popescu;but otherwise you want saussure and levi strauss 764612;1406072588;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: thanks 764613;1406072600;mircea_popescu;FoOdies arguably the life of one who's never heard of weev isn't that precious. 764614;1406072620;mircea_popescu;BigBitz what is ? 764615;1406072638;FoOdies;arguably 764616;1406072663;BigBitz;mircea_popescu: BattleField Hardline. I was just making a funny. 764617;1406072680;mircea_popescu;but anyway. culture is much like ash in the ashtray : the leftovers of all your nights wasted reading stupid shit. 764618;1406072688;mircea_popescu;o lol. 764619;1406072695;FoOdies;why would I need to read about other retards' mishaps when I have a first have experience with fbi+mi5+sri 764620;1406072706;FoOdies;hand* 764621;1406072709;FoOdies;first hand* 764622;1406072739;mircea_popescu;people who have sex read porn, why not. 764623;1406072767;BigBitz;wait. what. 764624;1406072771;BigBitz;'read' porn. 764625;1406072775;FoOdies;true but I doubt people who've been to an interrecial intersex interspecies orgy are interested in reading any porn 764626;1406072779;FoOdies;watch 764627;1406072780;FoOdies;read 764628;1406072783;FoOdies;you know what he meant 764629;1406072791;bitstein;mircea_popescu: Oh yes! I need to re-read it, but that was a great TLP article. 764630;1406072797;BigBitz;with mircea_popescu you never /really/ know what he meant. 764631;1406072801;mircea_popescu;BigBitz im in touch with my feminine side, you chauvinist pigglet. 764632;1406072814;BigBitz;mircea_popescu please. 764633;1406072832;mircea_popescu;bitstein basically the idea is that a whole generation of mutton has been raised to abhor actual power, and to readily insist it must be traded in for power tokens. 764634;1406072833;FoOdies;the cells of the central arrest near casa poporului are very enlightening you know 764635;1406072842;mircea_popescu;this is why they keep insisting on the bitcoin merchant dead meme, 764636;1406072848;mircea_popescu;and this is why a lot of other things. 764637;1406072893;BingoBoingo; true but I doubt people who've been to an interrecial intersex interspecies orgy are interested in reading any porn << if only you knew what a hassel these things are to set up... 764638;1406072894;BingoBoingo;shit 764639;1406072910;FoOdies;god damn it don't I know it 764640;1406072914;mircea_popescu;;;google literotica.com interrecial intersex interspecies orgy 764641;1406072915;gribble;Smashwords – About Nick Foxx, author of 'Tush (The Whole Tale ...: 764642;1406072916;FoOdies;and the mess you have to clean up afterwards 764643;1406072938;bitstein;<+mircea_popescu> this is why they keep insisting on the bitcoin merchant dead meme, << you mean the idea that merchants matter? 764644;1406072942;BingoBoingo;FoOdies: Mess is why you go to the Goat's house 764645;1406072957;mircea_popescu;bitstein well the idea that in order for bitcoin to have value, it must be traded out of your hand. 764646;1406072973;mircea_popescu;ie, they're firm in the notion that nothing in their hand can be of value. a sort of reverse-midas mentality. 764647;1406072981;mircea_popescu;shitheads convinced everything in their hands turns to shit 764648;1406072983;FoOdies;not when you're the host 764649;1406072996;mircea_popescu;!up cowloon 764650;1406073032;mircea_popescu;bitstein it's not just money, either. consider my earlier quoted piece about how "you can't police other people's oppression". 764651;1406073045;bitstein;Pierre_Rochard has referred to Bitcoin as an example of Coase theorem. Bitcoin can be allocated however... it will fall out of the hands of the stupid. 764652;1406073055;mircea_popescu;and it's really universal. i was out one night here, and a bum (there's tons of bums in buenos aires, they have matresses in the street and whatnot) started howling. like 3 am. 764653;1406073060;FoOdies;mircea_popescu the day bitcoin is no longer paired against fiat is the day bitcoin has reached it's purpose 764654;1406073063;mircea_popescu;a passerby was like "shut up!" all aggro. 764655;1406073074;mircea_popescu;find the us guy that wil tell a bum what to do, how to speak and so on. 764656;1406073074;FoOdies;until then it's just an unregulated trading asset 764657;1406073078;FoOdies;imho 764658;1406073094;mircea_popescu;"o, could never do that". well ? why not ? whoi's to tell the bums how to behave ? who's to tell children what to do, when and how ? 764659;1406073105;BingoBoingo;Marketing opportunity >> http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/170-foot-ketchup-bottle-sale-illinois-24665481 764660;1406073106;assbot;170-Foot Ketchup Bottle for Sale in Illinois - ABC News 764661;1406073132;FoOdies;I like this place, it's all kinds of weird 764662;1406073135;FoOdies;can I have perma voice ? 764663;1406073145;mircea_popescu;nah, you should too shilly. 764664;1406073162;FoOdies;I'll consider a shpaga when I meet you 764665;1406073172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 429 @ 0.00273 = 1.1712 BTC [-] {2} 764666;1406073175;FoOdies;notice the usage of when 764667;1406073177;FoOdies;the firm usage 764668;1406073191;mircea_popescu;permanence is illusory anyway. 764669;1406073196;BingoBoingo;Pretty sure that catsup bottle can be dressed up as an MPEx dildo 764670;1406073208;bitstein;Somewhat related, I'm working on an article about how merchants are just scammers trying to swindle you out of your bitcoins. 764671;1406073214;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it being ill, they'll prolly shoot someone with it. 764672;1406073228;mircea_popescu;bitstein perhaps going a little too far. 764673;1406073275;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Other side of the state. A few hundred miles from Chiraq 764674;1406073278;bitstein;Yes, that's the hyperbolic summary. 764675;1406073350;bitstein;I'll pass on a draft later on. I have school in the way right now. 764676;1406073440;BingoBoingo;!up FoOdies 764677;1406073463;mircea_popescu;;;view 21114 764678;1406073465;gribble;#21114 Sun Jul 20 00:20:35 2014 BTCminers SELL 1.0 Spin Wheel – wheel Script for any crypto coin + Installing @ 0.1 BTC (Escrow Accepted) 764679;1406073471;mircea_popescu;thickasthieves feel like running whatever that is ? 764680;1406073481;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/07/17/brenda_ann_kenneally_documents_life_below_the_poverty_line_in_troy_york.html 764681;1406073481;assbot;Brenda Ann Kenneally documents life below the poverty line in Troy, York in her documentary project, Upstate Girls. 764682;1406073502;BingoBoingo;^ lulzy photos 764683;1406073786;mircea_popescu;http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/06/Troy/lawrence_2007.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg <<< i bet this filename was created on a windows.win.windows.xp.windows system 764684;1406073855;BingoBoingo;OMG spot the DOgecoiner 764685;1406073938;BingoBoingo;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJWVHlCAAIRvsj.jpg:large 764686;1406074003;mircea_popescu;http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/06/Troy/Robert%20Stocklas_2013.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg << check out the punctured oil heater with a jimmy rigged power connection. 764687;1406074012;mircea_popescu;this guy could be a 2012 bitcoin miner. 764688;1406074089;BingoBoingo;"I would encourage you to finish before the majority of your committee members retire. (seriously.)" << Roflmao, I know a between one and two hand full of countable fingers of these people. 764689;1406074247;BingoBoingo;http://www.horseradishfestival.net/ << Event that happens in the shadow of the Catsup Bottle/Dildo water tower 764690;1406074247;assbot;International Horseradish Festival, Collinsville, IL. First weekend in June 764691;1406074332;BingoBoingo;Actual contest that happened http://www.collinsvillerec.com/pdffiles/14_IHF_BloodyMaryContestApp.pdf 764692;1406074863;mircea_popescu;wait. that boy actually is... a girl http://www.upstategirls.org/images/Jodie/jodie_2500px-003.jpg ?! 764693;1406074926;mircea_popescu;anyway, very merkley??? looking shit, except minus either the talent or the interest 764694;1406074930;mircea_popescu;( the real deal http://www.threequestionmarks.com/blog/blog.html ) 764695;1406074932;assbot;merkley???: I May Not Be God, But at Least I'm Real. 764696;1406075168;BingoBoingo;roflcopter 764697;1406075965;bitstein;Ethereum has raised nearly $800k in about 2 hours: https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 764698;1406075965;assbot;Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 764699;1406076013;mircea_popescu;lol so people bought >1k btc worth of ethereum at 2k each btc , instead of buying 1k btc worth of ethereum at 5k each btc ? 764700;1406076018;mircea_popescu;does this sound credible to you in any sense ? 764701;1406076092;bitstein;Well I'm amazed by any purchase of Ethereum, so... 764702;1406076190;mircea_popescu;why do all the supposed payments end in .9997 ? 764703;1406076231;mircea_popescu;o wait, they're all sent off the same software which simply substracts the same mining fee from the txn ? 764704;1406076239;mircea_popescu;funny how that'd be the case. 764705;1406076269;BingoBoingo;Wait, there's a wallet thing that does that? 764706;1406076289;mike_c;isn't ethereum a wallet or something? 764707;1406076328;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Well, so far it is a nothing 764708;1406076335;mike_c;also, it's possible they didn't know about the better offer yet. 764709;1406076348;BingoBoingo;Then it will pretend to be a something before becoming a nothing again 764710;1406076372;mike_c;da fuck am i thinking of? mycelium, etherwhoizt. what the fuck is that node-less wallet thingy? 764711;1406076427;mike_c;jurov is a big fan. unless i dreamt all this. 764712;1406076437;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Electrum? 764713;1406076449;mike_c;yes 764714;1406076452;mike_c;these names. 764715;1406076469;mircea_popescu;mike_c right, because nobody with any btc reads the logs, or reddit, or twitter. 764716;1406076514;BingoBoingo;Ah. Electrum wallet (split into online and offline components like armory) plus one's own electrum server actually doesn't seem like a bad wallet solution atm 764717;1406076518;mike_c;well, are you proposing that there is no longer significant # of btc in the hands of idiots? 764718;1406076538;mike_c;i didn't think we were there yet. 764719;1406076614;mike_c;BingoBoingo: yeah, it didn't seem completely retarded. i had attached some of that feeling to this ethereum thingy. didn't realize it was just a complete nothing. 764720;1406076652;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Yeah, a big problem in this space is still sound/look a like names. 764721;1406077142;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kn6VXOVa--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zo17x0u9io1fppluzmmk.jpg 764722;1406077845;mircea_popescu;mike_c in this case, the only significant amount of btc is in the hands of the idiots trying to fraudulently prop an ipo scam visible from the moon, in some sort of misplaced delusion of legal immunity. 764723;1406078155;benkay;mircea_popescu: d'you recall what gmaxwell's all butthurt about? 764724;1406078165;BingoBoingo;Well, it was just last week the link dropped here of an aspiring HYIP scammer who lost a whole BTC to malware he though would let him cheat a pasted together gambling site. 764725;1406078176;BingoBoingo;benkay: Porn. gmaxwell hates pr0ns 764726;1406078180;mircea_popescu;getting publicly humiliated ? the usaul thing. 764727;1406078191;benkay;just wondering what fine print he failed to read. 764728;1406078198;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo a whole btc. not a succession of 5.997 2.997 etc etc. 764729;1406078199;benkay;having failed to read my fair share of fine print in the past. 764730;1406078236;mircea_popescu;benkay o, i don't imagine his recent derpage has any substance to it, merely him trying his best at crafting effectual calumny. 764731;1406078258;mircea_popescu;otherwise, the dispute is preserved here : http://trilema.com/2013/the-froth-of-our-days/ 764732;1406078259;assbot;The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 764733;1406078264;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, this whole ether huffing thing smells just like the mastercoin "sell coin now" and then "release anything eventually" 764734;1406078283;mircea_popescu;obviously the fact that time has meanwhile proven my points doesn't in any sense help. 764735;1406078370;BingoBoingo;;;rate gmaxwell -1 Likely UnSavoryGarnish, Plant 764736;1406078371;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user gmaxwell has been recorded. 764737;1406078376;BingoBoingo;What was Hearn's nick? 764738;1406078394;mircea_popescu;but anyway, this isn't in any sense a dispute pitting flaming social justice warriors and other braindamaged kids trying to make the world "liberal" a la copumpkin against cold hard reality. 764739;1406078404;copumpkin;lol 764740;1406078419;mircea_popescu;this is a dispute where a consumate gofer (ie, gmaxwell) is trying to veer their naivity into some sort of political relevance for himself, gets called out and then stomped out. 764741;1406078422;benkay;BingoBoingo: is this ether coin a btc fork or... 764742;1406078432;mircea_popescu;much like the life of andreas derpopowhatever, except two years earlier 764743;1406078437;BingoBoingo;benkay: Pre-sold instead of pre-mined 764744;1406078453;benkay;BingoBoingo: still no software then i gather 764745;1406078454;mircea_popescu;which shouldn't be surprising : anyone can be a very ambitious failed painter or w/e mediocrity. 764746;1406078483;BingoBoingo;benkay: Not that they've released. Apparently the presale ether goes in their genesis block 764747;1406078520;bitstein;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6llaZefJDc 764748;1406078520;assbot;The Producers -- Hitler...there was a painter - YouTube 764749;1406078530;mircea_popescu; What was Hearn's nick? << i don't recall he ever managing to figure out the gpg arcana. i imagine he'll first have to implement a google code version, that doesn't work. 764750;1406078578;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ah, I though I'd give him the "UnsavoryGarnish, Vegetable" ninjashogun and gmaxwell earned 764751;1406078594;BingoBoingo;But if he didn't submit himself to civilization 764752;1406078597;BingoBoingo;... 764753;1406078660;BingoBoingo;I guess that people will have to read other places that he is suspected of being the lead USG plant 764754;1406078681;mircea_popescu;not the sort of thing that really needs to be read by too many people anyway. 764755;1406078709;mircea_popescu;benkay well so far it's really an urbit fork. 764756;1406078725;mircea_popescu;it's going to do great things in novel ways just as soon as someone does it. 764757;1406078762;mircea_popescu;copumpkin lol, lol, but how about you go count female heads in otc and here ? just for lulz. 764758;1406078797;copumpkin;busy eating some hand grasp bread I just made 764759;1406078846;mircea_popescu;i never had that thing. what the hell is it 764760;1406078859;benkay; benkay well so far it's really an urbit fork. // vaporware fork XD 764761;1406078866;nubbins`;what's hand grasp bread 764762;1406078886;benkay;at least urbit had code in the wild, has ether achieved that yet? 764763;1406078896;copumpkin;fluffy chinese bread: http://www.beifangmeishi.com/file/upload/201306/25/16-43-04-45-36.jpg 764764;1406078899;copumpkin;dlicious 764765;1406078902;copumpkin;om nom nom 764766;1406078910;nubbins`;oh yum 764767;1406078915;nubbins`;is that wheat-based? 764768;1406078919;benkay;nubbins`: hit the lawyer turn off the gym, facebook up? 764769;1406078932;copumpkin;mine isnt as beautiful as that one 764770;1406078936;copumpkin;yeah wheat 764771;1406078945;nubbins`;benkay i know all the verbs you just used 764772;1406078956;mircea_popescu;look slike an exploded strudel. 764773;1406078974;mircea_popescu;benkay well it's a spoonlet then , not quite a fork 764774;1406078988;nubbins`;i'm trying to see if i can make a business case for buying one of these cd duplication machines 764775;1406078990;benkay;the spoon is a lie 764776;1406078993;nubbins`;with the little robot arms 764777;1406079085;BingoBoingo;Fuck it, Imma walk over to the county fair and grab some chikin livers to go with this vodka 764778;1406079107;BingoBoingo;(reconstituted vodka) 764779;1406079113;copumpkin;nubbins`: wtf is a cd 764780;1406079118;nubbins`;i know right 764781;1406079126;nubbins`;that's in the "cons" list 764782;1406079149;nubbins`;but they're fuckin cheap. like under 3btc 764783;1406079150;copumpkin;hell, I can't even remember the last time I handled physical media 764784;1406079165;dub;http://www.chinesefoodsblog.com/node/125 764785;1406079167;assbot;Chopped green onion hand grasp bread | Chinesefood 764786;1406079168;copumpkin;that's cause nobody else wants them either 764787;1406079172;nubbins`;reason i'm wondering is we got a job producing cd jackets etc for a band, and we're printing on the discs 764788;1406079176;copumpkin;dub: yup 764789;1406079177;dub;complete wiht engrish++ 764790;1406079188;nubbins`;started humming about actually duplicating them too 764791;1406079188;dub;this is my new favorite blog 764792;1406079190;benkay; Somewhat related, I'm working on an article about how merchants are just scammers trying to swindle you out of your bitcoins. // i'm starting to like you 764793;1406079190;copumpkin;delicious 764794;1406079204;copumpkin;so much good chinese food never leaves china 764795;1406079219;copumpkin;it's a pity people only eat general tsao and such 764796;1406079263;dub;duck you 764797;1406079267;dub;um 764798;1406079270;dub;fuck you 764799;1406079272;mircea_popescu;nubbins` lawyer is a noun. get it ? A NOUN. you don't want it to sue you., 764800;1406079272;copumpkin;:( 764801;1406079273;mircea_popescu;how much do they cost ? 764802;1406079274;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo grab a chick'n while at it. 764803;1406079275;mircea_popescu;!up Ginux 764804;1406079276;mircea_popescu;!up gilgameshugga 764805;1406079277;mircea_popescu;ok, how many cds did you burn last year ? 764806;1406079287;midnightmagic;you just have to know a chinese person. I got some great stuff smuggled out. :-D 764807;1406079292;dub;i want chinee food now 764808;1406079305;copumpkin;chinese lamb sticks are the best 764809;1406079312;copumpkin;ma po doufu 764810;1406079313;copumpkin;mm 764811;1406079335;copumpkin;in fact, anything with szechuan peppercorns 764812;1406079344;dub;theres a place up the road that does that bread and og dumplings 764813;1406079345;mircea_popescu;i never got into chinese. sushi i like, indian lamb i like, but chinese... hm. what's it even for. 764814;1406079346;copumpkin;amazing ingredient 764815;1406079346;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 764816;1406079355;midnightmagic;tingly numby-ness. 764817;1406079355;copumpkin;>_> 764818;1406079357;dub;but im too hungover to drive 764819;1406079357;copumpkin;mmm 764820;1406079359;midnightmagic;nom nom nom 764821;1406079364;copumpkin;yup 764822;1406079377;dub;yeah numbing heat 764823;1406079380;dub;good shit 764824;1406079384;mircea_popescu;ironically, the sechuan pepper i actually like 764825;1406079390;mircea_popescu;usually put it on... pfeffersteak 764826;1406079416;copumpkin;that's cause it's an amazing ingredient 764827;1406079416;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 764828;1406079418;copumpkin;<_< 764829;1406079426;mircea_popescu;yeah, proly the best pepper. 764830;1406079431;mircea_popescu;either that or green 764831;1406079456;midnightmagic;there are some weird salts that are hand-mined and prepared in china too. They highlight one in a show called "Taste of China". 764832;1406079457;dub;goddamit 764833;1406079458;copumpkin;yup 764834;1406079465;midnightmagic;*amazing* weird flavours. 764835;1406079465;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 764836;1406079471;midnightmagic;lol 764837;1406079471;copumpkin;lol 764838;1406079477;dub;im gonna have to man up and put some pants on 764839;1406079484;copumpkin;AMAZING COMPANY! 764840;1406079487;copumpkin;hmm 764841;1406079492;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic it's not "salt scraped off forced labouring prisoners sweat" or something is it 764842;1406079494;copumpkin;aMazing pepper 764843;1406079515;dub;mircea_popescu: just the balls 764844;1406079526;mircea_popescu;chinese men have balls ?! 764845;1406079534;midnightmagic;mircea_popescu: lol no, but its extraction is hugely labour-intensive.. same as lots of things in our world that have disappeared because nobody's willing or able to go to the effort anymore 764846;1406079540;dub;hey now, no need for racis 764847;1406079555;mircea_popescu;dub is racis the enemy of ratrans ? 764848;1406079587;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic but i mean... salt is salt, right ? it forms deposits, acertain way. why labour intensive ? 764849;1406079649;midnightmagic;mircea_popescu: pure salt is. The impurities give it the weird extra flavours. I mean some I'm not cool with. There's this weird black salt that has a lot of sulphur in it. 764850;1406079669;mircea_popescu;sulphur is supposedly good for you, somehow. 764851;1406079680;mircea_popescu;they even market all these miracle-curing sulphurous mineral waters. 764852;1406079689;BingoBoingo;I'm back, mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo grab a chick'n while at it. << How does that saying go... "Don't shit where you eat" 764853;1406079728;dub;Put to wok,add a spoon oil,cook until two side become yellow.OK! 764854;1406079753;mircea_popescu;dub is that wok or work ? 764855;1406079758;dub;if yan can cook then so can you 764856;1406079782;midnightmagic;my mistake the show is called "A Bite Of China" but damned if I can find the episode now :) 764857;1406079814;mircea_popescu;honestly, i'd be kinda loath to take bites out of china. 764858;1406079815;kakobrekla; they even market all these miracle-curing sulphurous mineral waters. < been to such place, saturnia in italy. 764859;1406079817;mircea_popescu;kinda big. 764860;1406079834;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla there's one in romania and i think somewhere in serbia ? or maybe it was albania 764861;1406079842;midnightmagic;There's a spot near me where the hotsprngs have naturally-occurring lithium in them. 764862;1406079870;midnightmagic;it's horrible literally being unable to move faster than a walk after sitting in those waters too long 764863;1406079891;mircea_popescu;wow 764864;1406079898;dub;is that good for you? 764865;1406079916;midnightmagic;i didn't know until afterwards that the water was contaminated. they sell it as a health spa. 764866;1406079929;midnightmagic;"what the fuck is wrong with me" *sluggish zombie-movement* 764867;1406079929;mircea_popescu;"experience being old for a day!" 764868;1406079935;kakobrekla;Mataruška Banja? Havent been but need to check it out sometime. 764869;1406079936;midnightmagic;yah 764870;1406079942;dub;they give lithium in cases of extreme psychosis 764871;1406079980;BingoBoingo;dub: Not just then, low dose lithium can work well for a person when their brain is just running a little hot. 764872;1406079987;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ya sound about right 764873;1406080102;BingoBoingo;dub> they give lithium in cases of extreme psychosis << Also they don't really give lithium much for psychosis anymore which is a shame considering how well it works... 764874;1406080228;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo stop opposing research and job creating funding in research and SCIENCE and global warming. 764875;1406080252;mircea_popescu;we're trying to build a great future here and you gotta throw simple element wrenches into the windows 764876;1406080317;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo stop opposing research and job creating funding in research and SCIENCE and global warming. << I'm fighting marketing. Just because pharma doesn't want to compete with Tesla's 1337 battery factory doesn't mean that there are better uses for those salts than motor carriages and iBortions. 764877;1406080367;mircea_popescu;psychoactive lithium is not complex enough. progress is complexity, to oppose complexification is to be antisocial and terrorist. 764878;1406080379;*;BingoBoingo finds it interesting that in a few years on patent Atypical Antipsychotics will dry up, and the next pivot isn't apparent on the horizon yet. 764879;1406080408;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo seeing how well the current stuff works, they can just patent borax glass and give that to people. 764880;1406080440;BingoBoingo;Come on, there's nothing more complex than the cascade of mystery meat that happens when lithium displaces sodium in the gap and raises action potential 764881;1406080472;mircea_popescu;but that's complexity in the wrong place. 764882;1406080520;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, The Last Psychiatrist had all of those wonderfully illustrative Seroquel articles about complexity in the right places, but... Tis off pattent nao 764883;1406080626;BingoBoingo;TLP's rum fountain analogy in those articles is probably the best popular science writing this century so far. 764884;1406080675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00081519 = 18.4233 BTC [+] {3} 764885;1406080700;nubbins`;nice middle-of-the-line cd duplicator is maybe $1500 764886;1406080713;nubbins`;realistically could charge about 50 cents for the duplication of one cd 764887;1406080733;nubbins`;which means 3k cds duplicated before i can stop worrying about breaking the thing 764888;1406080756;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you never answered as to how many you made 764889;1406080767;nubbins`;for customers? zero 764890;1406080780;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Look used on Ebay already. 764891;1406080809;nubbins`;just happened to be making some cd cases for a band and they wanted discs printed, idly wondering if we'd want to duplicate em too 764892;1406080819;nubbins`;probably not 764893;1406080826;mircea_popescu;nubbins` ok, how many do you figure you'll make and on what basis do you so figure ? 764894;1406080829;kakobrekla;tell em if he orders 3k. 764895;1406080854;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla's idea goes a long way towards that. "3k, cause they're prepaid" 764896;1406080880;nubbins`;it's hard to say because a lot of bands are doing vinyl or download cards these days instead of cds. ballpark guess, might get 1000 cds duped over the next year 764897;1406080900;mike_c;and exponential decrease every year after 764898;1406080906;mike_c;it's like a miner! 764899;1406080910;nubbins`;well, there's that too 764900;1406080924;kakobrekla;at this point - might be more $ to be in the floppy biz. 764901;1406080930;nubbins`;you can also get dupe towers, with one master drive and say 5 burners 764902;1406080933;nubbins`;they're only around $700 764903;1406080948;mircea_popescu;horrible business purchase, moving on. 764904;1406080951;nubbins`;not quite as hands-off tho 764905;1406080955;nubbins`;lel, agreed 764906;1406080966;mircea_popescu;nubbins` , hey, it's what you originally asked. 764907;1406080968;nubbins`;this is a silkscreen printing studio, not a cd dupe centre 764908;1406080986;nubbins`;just looking for a fresh perspective, glad to see we're all in agreement 8) 764909;1406080999;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: How many Cd's do they need duped? 764910;1406081016;nubbins`;this particular job, only 200 764911;1406081056;nubbins`;i'd say at this point, more stuff is being released on cassette here than cd 764912;1406081068;mircea_popescu;nubbins` this is like, groupthink. no fresh perspectives allowed here. 764913;1406081075;nubbins`;heh 764914;1406081087;mircea_popescu;nubbins` but srsly, if you can get a vynil press you can sell to all the hippies 764915;1406081098;nubbins`;mp, that's its own craft 764916;1406081099;kakobrekla;that shit costs serial monies. 764917;1406081123;nubbins`;almost every vinyl pressing house in canada outsources to this one factory in czech 764918;1406081136;mike_c;really? shipping is worth it? 764919;1406081140;*;nubbins` nods 764920;1406081150;mircea_popescu;mike_c easy to fuck up 764921;1406081151;nubbins`;they do direct-to-metal digital masters with this crazy machine 764922;1406081161;nubbins`;supposed to be a one-of-a-kind setup 764923;1406081170;mircea_popescu;it probably is. 764924;1406081171;nubbins`;name an a-list band, their vinyl is pressed there 764925;1406081181;mike_c;interesting. 764926;1406081183;mircea_popescu;the last existing top hat factory was destroyed in a family dispute coupla decades ago 764927;1406081189;nubbins`;jeez 764928;1406081191;mircea_popescu;most of the good old shit is one of a kind setups 764929;1406081200;BingoBoingo;Nubbins 2k cd minimum order I could set up cd production with artisinal hand labeling ~ 8.7 BTC and handle the remaining on a print on demand basis. 6 week turn around for the first batch. 764930;1406081226;nubbins`;BingoBoingo i don't think many bands here would be into a 2k minimum ;( 764931;1406081232;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo there exist no indie bands which can afford a 10 btc expenditure on life saving surgery 764932;1406081235;mircea_popescu;let alone cds 764933;1406081260;nubbins`;mircea_popescu you forget, this is canada 764934;1406081264;nubbins`;sweet sweet grant money 764935;1406081277;mircea_popescu;nubbins` anyway, the only way to do this is, make the whole studio, force-sign the bands, work them like slaves. 764936;1406081286;mircea_popescu;not VERY profitable, but a lot of fun. 764937;1406081293;nubbins`;heh 764938;1406081298;nubbins`;maybe i'll just stick to printing 764939;1406081300;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well I figured I'd throw a quote out there just in case some "band" has parents with more coin than sense 764940;1406081321;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo those kids go for mbas, new cars and bumps off teenage asscracks. 764941;1406081325;nubbins`;one of our regular customers was awarded a $10k grant last year to record an album 764942;1406081331;mircea_popescu;not shitty "music" 764943;1406081349;mircea_popescu;nubbins` wow socialist utopia. was the album actually made ? 764944;1406081359;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: yeah, i've got a copy somewhere 764945;1406081360;mircea_popescu;or did it work pretty much like kickstarter 764946;1406081372;nubbins`;it was their third album, first one paid for by someone else 764947;1406081379;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: The 2k minimum is to avoid the situation where they buy exactly the number of cd's they have friends to pester and need pod cd's twice a month for a decade. 764948;1406081423;nubbins`;that's the thing about grants, you get blacklisted if you don't produce (a) your work and (b) your receipts 764949;1406081437;nubbins`;and nobody wants to get blacklisted, 'cause ain't nobody but the government giving out free money 764950;1406081448;mike_c;"free" 764951;1406081461;nubbins`;hey, free enough 764952;1406081465;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I've had classmates with "farm money" talk their parents into covering their Film School, Mary Jane prescription, and subsequent X-mas DUI's. Weirder things happen in fiat land. 764953;1406081469;mike_c;not so free for the people they took it from 764954;1406081497;nubbins`;mike_c, our benevolent overlords see it fit that we should be entertained with fresh music 764955;1406081508;nubbins`;and so we gladly oblige, purse in hand 764956;1406081512;mircea_popescu;mike_c stop opposing progress and an end to oppression. 764957;1406081521;mike_c;hey, it's better than how our gov't spends its money.. 764958;1406081552;nubbins`;i mean, really, it's not the band that gets the $10k 764959;1406081559;mircea_popescu;im not sure if shitty contemporary bands should be given 10k in grants to derp quietly in a corner at their craft or just be medicated worth 10k for possesion. 764960;1406081567;mircea_popescu;so far neither strat seems to work any 764961;1406081587;mircea_popescu;canada hasn't had a good musician since cohen visited and the us... 764962;1406081587;nubbins`;it's everyone they hire to do shit for them that they used to have to do themselves 764963;1406081590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 419 @ 0.0014122 = 0.5917 BTC [-] {6} 764964;1406081595;nubbins`;wat 764965;1406081629;mircea_popescu;nubbins` too lazy to list the us problemz. 764966;1406081660;mike_c;wait, was that a meta-insult? 764967;1406081672;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: What happens if by next March 15th, the Ethereum network isn't sufficiently functional for you to be able to deliver Ethers to the people who take you up on your offer? 764968;1406081687;mike_c;"i'm too drunk to list irish problems" 764969;1406081733;mircea_popescu;justusranvier amusingly, in that case the contract'd be void. 764970;1406081752;mircea_popescu;but anyway, it'd be an explicit clause limiting such cases, obv. 764971;1406081974;mircea_popescu;in any case, one generally buys a future if they expect the thing to work well, not to fail. 764972;1406081996;mircea_popescu;if you buy a future and the thing fails there's many ways to put it, but they all boil down to "you're screwed". 764973;1406082078;justusranvier;They might have value as collector's items 30 years from now. 764974;1406082114;*;dub haz chinese food 764975;1406082175;mircea_popescu;all sorts of mights, obviously. 764976;1406082200;mircea_popescu;the aliens might land five minutes later and declare that anyone can have super hot alien blowjobs for a eth each 764977;1406082221;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1D585YD.txt ) 764978;1406082221;BingoBoingo;!b 7 764979;1406082241;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But then the aliens burn in hell for coming from the wrong earth 764980;1406082243;justusranvier;"Vintage Ether units. Mint condition - never used." 764981;1406082300;mircea_popescu;i happen to be party to the first and oldest actually executed short, incidentally. you ever saw it ? 764982;1406082308;BingoBoingo;I wonder if ethereum ethers will suffer from the problem classical ether does where explosive peroxide crystals form. 764983;1406083137;BingoBoingo;Also, fuck tractor pulls 764984;1406083189;mircea_popescu;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3471532818_a05495e39d_o.jpg decent tits on those legs. 764985;1406083215;mthreat;anti-gravity 764986;1406083306;mircea_popescu;they do wonderful things with plastics now 764987;1406083325;mthreat;did someone already post this here? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bg93d/heres_why_i_love_bitcoin_very_nsfw_version/ 764988;1406083325;assbot;Here's Why I Love Bitcoin! [Very NSFW Version] ;) : Bitcoin 764989;1406083331;mthreat;appears to be from sexy saffron 764990;1406083359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00274866 = 1.9241 BTC [+] 764991;1406083399;mircea_popescu;five holes, asciilifeform 764992;1406083401;mircea_popescu;or was it six. 764993;1406083413;asciilifeform;damn what'd i miss. 764994;1406083457;*;asciilifeform got back from buying a new, somewhat more gastight exhaust stack for laser - which now has its own 'outhouse.' 764995;1406083472;*;asciilifeform now back to actual work 764996;1406083664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 150 @ 0.00697642 = 1.0465 BTC [+] {5} 764997;1406083838;decimation;asciilifeform were you tired of breathing laser-combustion byproducts? 764998;1406083848;asciilifeform;decimation: aye 764999;1406083934;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: lithium pharma << as i recall, the therapeutic envelope is so narrow as to be practically absent - e.g. slow poison 765000;1406084004;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Therapeutic envelope is indeed very narrow. 0.4 to 1.2, toxic depending on the patient starts at 0.8 to 1.4 765001;1406084037;decimation;asciilifeform if you aren't making stencils with laser cutter, what are you making? custom circuit-board etchings? 765002;1406084045;BingoBoingo;But, on the plus side interactions with other drugs are minimal 765003;1406084068;asciilifeform;decimation: mechanicals for paste laydown apparatus. 765004;1406084092;decimation;neato, robots building robots 765005;1406084159;decimation;I wouldn't mind building something like this one day: http://www.vtwilson.net/telescope.html (complete with russian military satellite observatory) 765006;1406084295;BingoBoingo;Seriously though, calling these things competing in the tractor pull "tractors" is an insult to the idea of useful machinery. 765007;1406084338;asciilifeform;;;buy 1 "Auger valve for high-viscosity fluid dispenser, any manufacturer." at 1 BTC 765008;1406084339;gribble;Order id 21143 created. 765009;1406084343;decimation;lithium & warfarin are famous for narrow theraputic index 765010;1406084427;BingoBoingo;decimation: Warfarin is a bit different. Warfarin has an antidote. 765011;1406084626;mircea_popescu;btw, since i've been reading my old romanian bitcoin articles, landed on some gems. anyone remembers vladimir's asic ? 765012;1406084627;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-a-public-company-will-build-a-huge-bitcoin-mining-operation-asic.49333/page-15 765013;1406084627;assbot;[ANN] A public company will build a huge Bitcoin Mining Operation (ASIC). | Page 15 | Bitcointa.lk 765014;1406084654;decimation;asciilifeform don't you need to refigerate solder paste? 765015;1406084659;decimation;refridgerate 765016;1406084671;asciilifeform;decimation: yes. or, alternatively, use it up quickly. 765017;1406084680;asciilifeform;it doesn't keep. 765018;1406084694;decimation;I guess if you do a batch at a time you use it up 765019;1406084710;asciilifeform;even refrigerated, the balls settle. 765020;1406084745;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: OMG comments http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2bfwaw/mircea_popescu_offers_a_short_of_etherium_coins/ 765021;1406084746;assbot;Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 : CryptoCurrency 765022;1406084753;mircea_popescu;"If this ASIC mambo jumbo goes forward then I think BTC is as "good" as PayPal or the Bank of England." (forum communitard, 2012). 765023;1406084770;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i saw some on tat's link too 765024;1406084808;decimation;http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-sale-Auto-Glue-Dispenser-Solder-Paste-Liquid-Controller-Dropper-YDL-983A-Dispensing-system/757892187.html 765025;1406084809;assbot;220V Auto Glue Dispenser Solder Paste Liquid Controller Dropper YDL 983A Dispensing system-in Other Machinery from Industry & Business on Aliexpress.com 765026;1406084822;decimation;why not air dispenser? 765027;1406084827;asciilifeform;decimation: i own almost exactly that one 765028;1406084831;asciilifeform;they're crap, fundamentally 765029;1406084832;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah 765030;1406084881;decimation;too much variance in the dispensed amount? 765031;1406084885;asciilifeform;decimation: two reasons: air is a terrible working fluid (compressible!) making for very poor repeatability; 765032;1406084900;asciilifeform;decimation: likewise, major problem with 'drool' (actual term of art!) 765033;1406084912;decimation;yeah, plus when it runs out it will spatter I suspect 765034;1406084919;asciilifeform;decimation: that is, apparatus continues to shit after pressure is relieved 765035;1406084944;decimation;yeah you almost want to push it out with water or something, except that would dilute the flux 765036;1406084960;asciilifeform;air-fart syringe apparatus works for what it was built for - chinese slave gurlz dispensing glue. 765037;1406084998;decimation;generally in that application you don't care about drool or spillage 765038;1406085006;asciilifeform;state of the art, it turns out, is 'auger valve' - think: small archimedes screw. 765039;1406085033;decimation;x turns of screw gives repeatable amount? 765040;1406085038;asciilifeform;turned with a stepper motor. 765041;1406085041;asciilifeform;correct. 765042;1406085078;decimation;plus no drool because it acts as a valve 765043;1406085085;decimation;interesting. 765044;1406085086;asciilifeform;aye. 765045;1406085143;BingoBoingo;http://www.theonion.com/articles/mans-anxiety-not-about-to-let-depression-muscle-in,36504/ 765046;1406085143;assbot;Mans Anxiety Not About To Let Depression Muscle In On Turf | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 765047;1406085156;decimation;you would need a tiny auger screw though? 765048;1406085187;asciilifeform;yes. and the cavity it turns in can have no more than a very small gap between the auger and walls. 765049;1406085211;decimation;http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2013/solder-paste/ 765050;1406085214;assbot;Basics: Up Close and Personal with Solder Paste | Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories 765051;1406085216;asciilifeform;these normally cost their weight in diamonds new. 765052;1406085225;decimation;"This is ?type 3? solder, which allows solder balls of up to 45 ?m in size, where 99% of those particles are below 38 ?m. " 765053;1406085233;decimation;that's a pretty small gap to close off 765054;1406085249;decimation;45 micrometer ball size 765055;1406085322;BingoBoingo;County fair week has to be the worst week, why does a sled need 8 gallons of engine displacement to pull another sled full of weights? 765056;1406085380;asciilifeform;decimation: i use only Sn/Bi alloy, 138C. as described on mircea_popescu's site. 765057;1406085409;asciilifeform;25-45 micron ball variance. 765058;1406085478;asciilifeform;it is reasonably inexpensive and reflows beautifully on an electric hob. 765059;1406085535;kakobrekla;its basically a tiny meat grinder. 765060;1406085541;asciilifeform;kakobrekla has it. 765061;1406085619;*;asciilifeform now wonders if said paste conducts well enough to be propelled in 'MHD' pump. 765062;1406085705;dub;my wood pellet burner ingests its food with an auger 765063;1406085744;asciilifeform;dub: cutting edge ancient greek tech. 765064;1406085785;asciilifeform;http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Fluids/Archimedes_Screw/Archimedes_Screw.html 765065;1406085788;assbot;Archimede's Screw 765066;1406085812;asciilifeform;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes'_screw#mediaviewer/File:Archimedes-screw_one-screw-threads_with-ball_3D-view_animated_small.gif 765067;1406085813;assbot;Archimedes' screw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 765068;1406085821;dub;its a bit buggy with the pellets, thinks its jammed and refuses to start around half the time 765069;1406085822;asciilifeform;(for victims of american school) 765070;1406085869;dub;smart way to isolate fuel store from the hot bit 765071;1406085925;mircea_popescu;dub how large are the pellets ? 765072;1406085960;dub;5 by 10mm cylinders 765073;1406086120;mircea_popescu;prolly needs a tune-upo, the screw 765074;1406086167;dub;yeah, dust caked around the sensor oslt 765075;1406086243;dub;theres an appendage on the front of it that runs through middle of the screw which you pull out and wiggle to get it going again 765076;1406086335;dub;it would be a problem if I used the automation bits but its not annoying enough to start pulling it apart 765077;1406086470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22327 @ 0.00081115 = 18.1105 BTC [-] {4} 765078;1406086531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00080893 = 1.0516 BTC [-] 765079;1406086939;BingoBoingo;!up shesek 765080;1406086956;shesek;hey BingoBoingo 765081;1406086967;BingoBoingo;hello shesek 765082;1406086973;shesek;I actually have no idea what this channel is for - I saw it mentioned on Reddit and joined in 765083;1406086977;shesek;the website doesn't really say much, either 765084;1406087091;BingoBoingo;shesek: Well, this channel is kind of like the pipefitter's lounge, but for serious bitcoiners instead of pipefitters. 765085;1406087116;BingoBoingo;Not necessarily serious in general mind you. Just serious in Bitcoin. 765086;1406087234;Pierre_Rochard;shesek: a good introduction is here http://theumlaut.com/2014/06/10/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains/ 765087;1406087234;assbot;Bitcoin Is Great, But It Won’t Fix Our Monkey Brains | The mlaut 765088;1406087270;BingoBoingo;Azelphur: It looks like you've worked quite a bit on Electrum. Familiar at all with documentation for the server component? 765089;1406087871;*;asciilifeform discovered an interesting, (though probably not new) scam. 765090;1406087873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00080277 = 26.0097 BTC [-] {4} 765091;1406087883;Rassah;I think "our monkey brains" are largely influenced by societal norms, and bitcoin will "hack" some of those norms just as other technologies and science discoveries have... 765092;1406087915;asciilifeform;one can buy 'sim cards' intended for industrial applications - alarms, sensors, etc. where you feed it once a quarter, and the balance is spent when making/receiving calls or sms 765093;1406087938;asciilifeform;i have one such. and now i know how the vendor scams 765094;1406087944;asciilifeform;the device receives sms spam. 765095;1406087955;asciilifeform;despite the number never seeing the light of day anywhere 765096;1406087964;asciilifeform;could be 'wardialer,' of course. 765097;1406087972;asciilifeform;or - their actual business model. 765098;1406088005;BingoBoingo;Rassah: Actual brain hacking is much harder than it first sppears 765099;1406088256;asciilifeform;interesting how business model where strangers can reach in and take money from your pocket can carry on. 765100;1406088325;asciilifeform;(how? captive audience. who wants to pay a fat monthly fee for a remote sensor? so you're stuck with these.) 765101;1406088362;BingoBoingo;At least with the prepaid model if the carrier pisses you of, the shredder is a viable solution to device difficulties 765102;1406088372;nubbins`;so in the wedding planning world, a "save the date" card is a thing 765103;1406088375;dub;was wondering wtf you are on about until I noticed you said you pay to recieve traffic (wtf?) 765104;1406088375;kakobrekla;you pay for incoming sms ? 765105;1406088379;nubbins`;it's like an invitation, but subtly different 765106;1406088383;dub;never seen that one 765107;1406088384;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: but where do you flee? they're all identical. 765108;1406088387;nubbins`;it's sort of like a pre-announcement 765109;1406088399;nubbins`;to use a btc analogy 765110;1406088405;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Not for the privacy part, for the billing tyranny 765111;1406088418;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: in usa, afaik all prepaid 'sim' vendors charge for both directions 765112;1406088432;dub;thats fucked 765113;1406088448;kakobrekla;retarded is what it is. 765114;1406088470;BingoBoingo;They do indeed charge both ways, but it is still at least half the price of actual service. 765115;1406088494;BingoBoingo;Often cheaper than [Insert President] Phone plans 765116;1406088499;dub;it'd be cheaper for me to buy a burner with sim included than just sim 765117;1406088504;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: less than 1/10 the price of the cheapest 'actual' service. but, given that spammers exist, the cost is non-deterministic 765118;1406088509;asciilifeform;which is annoying in the extreme. 765119;1406088530;dub;still only $20-30 with some credit included 765120;1406088601;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'm starting to get curious. Do you really get that many SMS spammers? 765121;1406088626;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: enough to be annoyed 765122;1406088631;kakobrekla;ascii your service provder is selling out to spammers ? tried switching to another ? 765123;1406088646;asciilifeform;my new hypothesis is that all cellular carriers that market to 'almost never uses account' folks make their dough on spam. 765124;1406088671;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: tried a number of carriers for this application. noticed this pattern. 765125;1406088689;dub;now that I think about it, I once bought an LTE modem with sim and $50 credit for $50 765126;1406088689;BingoBoingo;Last SMS spam I got was 3 phone numbers ago 765127;1406088705;asciilifeform;dub: what's it cost per year? 765128;1406088714;dub;nothing, no contract 765129;1406088730;asciilifeform;dub: no, per year of actually being reachable 765130;1406088813;dub;uh its 3Gb for $50 765131;1406088821;asciilifeform;dub: we're talking about an unattended telemetry gizmo 765132;1406088843;dub;right, it wouldnt cost 765133;1406088861;asciilifeform;dub: vendor? 765134;1406088889;dub;dubistani specific one 765135;1406088911;asciilifeform;dub: every carrier i know of save the ones described above deduct $positive_integer per $time_period 765136;1406088962;dub;theres a sim in mrs dubs ipad that hasnt had credit on it since.. whenever ipad2 dropped 3+ years? still registers on the network fine 765137;1406089018;asciilifeform;dub: is this a formal arrangement, or a fortuitous accident? (e.g. 'comcast' once gave me ~2 years of service gratis. by virtue of sheer ineptness.) 765138;1406089064;dub;its standard product 765139;1406089075;asciilifeform;device-locked? 765140;1406089087;dub;no, its a burner sim 765141;1406089106;kakobrekla;from the ghetto streets. 765142;1406089118;asciilifeform;if anyone knows of equivalent in usa, speak up. 765143;1406089132;kakobrekla;isnt dub in usa? 765144;1406089143;dub;lolno 765145;1406089151;kakobrekla;a ok 765146;1406089172;dub;im banned from usa in fact :) 765147;1406089182;dub;not that I would want to go back 765148;1406089183;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: If you want pure cell phone and SMS service Carlos Slim's Tracphone is the cheapest option 765149;1406089207;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: they sell non-devicelocked sim ? 765150;1406089212;BingoBoingo;Next cheapest and my current option is AT&T go phone 765151;1406089222;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Their sims are very device locked 765152;1406089234;kuzetsa;huh 765153;1406089240;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: and both carriers you mentioned charge $posint / mo. 765154;1406089244;kakobrekla;dub yurop? 765155;1406089248;kuzetsa;I guess assbot shares the same database as gribble, neat 765156;1406089260;asciilifeform;we're talking about a gadget that powers up and sends a single 'sms' every blue moon. 765157;1406089260;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: But device cost is low and every similar device must be treated as a turd anyways 765158;1406089291;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: For asciilifeform> we're talking about a gadget that powers up and sends a single 'sms' every blue moon. << You can pay $ int every year. 765159;1406089297;BingoBoingo;Less than ideal, but... 765160;1406089314;dub;kakobrekla: neg 765161;1406089341;BingoBoingo;For the cost of keeping a phone alive on the network I dunno of anything cheaper than Tracfone in the US 765162;1406089476;dub;satphones have prepay options iirc 765163;1406089565;dub;cost probably negates benefit, and you'd need sky 765164;1406089585;cazalla;re: salt, what is it with chinks and magic salt, had missus bff coming around with himalayan salt trying to scam me under the guise of it being great for baby 765165;1406089705;dub;idk, I recall a theory that abnormally high iodine levels in the japanese contributes to their well above average longevity 765166;1406089743;dub;(most western table salt has iodine removed) 765167;1406089797;cazalla;they add it to salt, bread etc etc here 765168;1406089833;cazalla;actually, bread is folic acid, yet these women don't have babies 765169;1406089905;dub;along with all manner of soy poisons and cow extracts 765170;1406089965;dub;;;google cows in the bread 765171;1406089965;gribble;Grain Overload/ Acidosis - LEA-White Farms Registered Highland ...: ; Processed Bread - Feeds Marketing: ; List of cattle breeds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 765172;1406090100;BingoBoingo;cazalla: Every living thing of note uses folate 765173;1406090130;BingoBoingo;About as close as Bio gets to having a level 0 standard 765174;1406090200;mircea_popescu; the device receives sms spam. << yup 765175;1406090256;cazalla;i won't pretend to know much about it other than what i said, law states they must add it to bread here, marketed to help the fetus yet women aren't falling pregnant, sounds more like a marketing pitch - here's a donut with folate, any excuse to buy it 765176;1406090315;dub;like fluoride, its all about reptillian seeding 765177;1406090333;mircea_popescu; not that I would want to go back << omg #bitcoin-extradition 765178;1406090338;nubbins`;<+dub> (most western table salt has iodine removed) 765179;1406090341;nubbins`;wat 765180;1406090347;nubbins`;you can buy non-iodized salt? 765181;1406090377;mircea_popescu; idk, I recall a theory that abnormally high iodine levels in the japanese contributes to their well above average longevity << fukushima makes sense nao. 765182;1406090394;dub;funnily some time in teh 90's as I recall they started not taking it out and advertising as iodized 765183;1406090442;trasyhhh151;command for change nick is /msg NickServ nick name? 765184;1406090455;trasyhhh151;struggling here 765185;1406090456;dub;no /nick newnick 765186;1406090521;nubbins`;incidentally, if anyone's interested, this is what a "save the date" looks like: http://imgur.com/KxD5W0m 765187;1406090522;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 765188;1406090557;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.000802 = 5.282 BTC [-] 765189;1406090685;dub;I have a similarly gatsby themed one on my fridge 765190;1406090750;nubbins`;deco is the new deco 765191;1406090767;nubbins`;is yours a real invite or a pre-invite? 765192;1406090832;dub;this is an invite but i've had pre-invites before 765193;1406090865;BingoBoingo;http://www.kingdomofloathing.com/desc_item.php?whichitem=888987269 765194;1406090866;nubbins`;strange thing, hey 765195;1406090946;dub;not uncommon here but I don't really get it 765196;1406090971;dub;if you know when, why not skip straight to the invite proper 765197;1406091024;nubbins`;I KNOW RIGHT 765198;1406091035;nubbins`;these people 765199;1406091103;nubbins`;i struggle to understand living a life so bereft of meaning that blowing your wad on a $50k one-off party is the culmination of your aspirations 765200;1406091107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5089 @ 0.00080051 = 4.0738 BTC [-] 765201;1406091118;nubbins`;i mean, y'know, wedding invitations for sale 765202;1406091122;nubbins`;but 765203;1406091125;nubbins`;srsly 765204;1406091128;dub;been to a couple of weddings involving several thousand dollars worth of international travel and accom for the guests, one of those had a save-the-date (STD?) 765205;1406091135;nubbins`;heh 765206;1406091146;dub;since such things are frequently cheapest booked earliest 765207;1406091181;asciilifeform;life so bereft of meaning that blowing your wad on a $50k one-off party is the culmination << next: seppuku parties. save the date! 765208;1406091186;nubbins`;oddly enough, this job came to us via a trendy downtown ad agency 765209;1406091230;nubbins`;asciilifeform please join steve and kristy as they ritually disembowel themselves! transportation to and from event provided 765210;1406091262;asciilifeform;nubbins`: does kristy get an 'apple corer' ? 765211;1406091282;dub;asciilifeform: expense of travel may be offset by reduced attendees, one couple claimed to have saved considerably 765212;1406091290;nubbins`;it was the only thing on the gift registry that i felt comfortable buying 765213;1406091294;dub;he is one of 14 kids 765214;1406091300;dub;sorry, his mother is 765215;1406091327;dub;upshot, 90% of his family couldnt make it 765216;1406091646;asciilifeform;only thing on the gift registry that i felt comfortable buying << lol, i suggested it as the actual instrument of sepukku 765217;1406091846;benkay; mike_c stop opposing progress and an end to oppression. // hey have you guys heard about this ICBC auto insurance monopoly in BC? 765218;1406091860;benkay;nubbins`: is there an auto insurance monopoly in your corner of the great untamed communist north? 765219;1406091868;TheNewDeal;tell us more benkay 765220;1406091899;benkay;icbc 765221;1406091901;benkay;it's a monopoly 765222;1406091903;benkay;service sucks 765223;1406091906;benkay;what else do you want? 765224;1406091919;TheNewDeal;how did they become a monopoly 765225;1406091933;nubbins`;benkay, nope 765226;1406091935;TheNewDeal;it's just like the game - no one cares about the ending, it's how you get there 765227;1406091994;benkay;pediwiki: "By law, any vehicle registered and driven or parked on public streets in British Columbia must purchase ICBC's basic insurance package from an independent broker. " 765228;1406092003;BingoBoingo;;;later tell danielpbarron Checking out my KoL inventory... What sorts of uncommon things might you be interested in pricing... 765229;1406092003;gribble;The operation succeeded. 765230;1406092046;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, there are so many items.. if you could get a screenshot or something.. 765231;1406092098;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, time trappings, the whole outfit. 765232;1406092171;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, you might be better off selling it in the mall; I'm not really interested in buying stuff for BTC, if that's what you meant 765233;1406092207;danielpbarron;with the time trappings, the key is to use a wand to transform them into whatever item is selling for the most 765234;1406092242;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, meat or BTC. I'd rather keep the trio together. TIme limited content and all that. 765235;1406092294;dub;KoL? 765236;1406092381;danielpbarron;20:43:11 <+mircea_popescu> why do all the supposed payments end in .9997 ? << if it's anything like the counterparty burn for xcp, the software puts a limit on 1 BTC per burn, and their reason was to make it harder for whales to burn a huge amount too easily (to make it "more fair" for the little guys) 765237;1406092444;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, if you're getting back into playing, the time set is a nice thing to have; it's one of the most efficient ways to get extra adventures per day 765238;1406092484;danielpbarron;you can get more efficient by ditching the hat and pants for other stuff, but the sword is the best hand held item for that purpose (i think) 765239;1406092517;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: It was indeed a nice pull from storage, but... Everything in this world is negotiable... And the set together has an added bonus 765240;1406092555;danielpbarron;right, what i mean is, you can exceed that bonus with other gear, but we're talking about a difference of a few adventures per day 765241;1406092559;benkay;asciilifeform: regarding pumps, would a peristaltic work? 765242;1406092570;benkay;;;gettrust assbot Rassah 765243;1406092570;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Rassah!~quassel@2601:a:f80:551:beae:c5ff:fe45:db9e. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Rassah: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Rassah | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rassah | Rated since: Fri Jun 3 23:49:22 2011 765244;1406092632;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7KIcwAn0FU 765245;1406092633;assbot;Tetris music on Stepper Motors! - YouTube 765246;1406092768;benkay;;;gettrust kuzetsa 765247;1406092769;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user benkay to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 765248;1406092778;benkay;;;gettrust assbot kuzetsa 765249;1406092778;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 765250;1406092840;benkay;kuzetsa: uses gribbles db, actually. if you've got a +1 from someone in assbot's wot, you can self-up as you've discovered. 765251;1406092845;benkay;light coupling, wot wot 765252;1406092976;benkay; if you know when, why not skip straight to the invite proper // this is what happens when you let the wimmins manage projects without oversight 765253;1406093016;benkay; i struggle to understand living a life so bereft of meaning that blowing your wad on a $50k one-off party is the culmination of your aspirations // that's why they demand consummation immediately afterwards, to keep the void filled 765254;1406093033;asciilifeform;benkay: i considered peristaltic. turns out, others have tried - they end up 'burping' 765255;1406093053;asciilifeform;benkay: which is a shame, because old medical pumps are a dime a dozen on 'ebay.' 765256;1406093067;benkay;'burping'? 765257;1406093072;benkay;asciilifeform: 'burping'? 765258;1406093092;asciilifeform;benkay: smallest 'quantum' of pumpage ends up being rather large. 765259;1406093119;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.0131 = 0.5109 BTC [+] 765260;1406093132;benkay;ah, makes sense. 765261;1406093241;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20591 @ 0.00080065 = 16.4862 BTC [+] 765262;1406093396;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3aNpJTwwmc << more for aficionados 765263;1406093396;assbot;Canon in D major - in stepper motor - YouTube 765264;1406093712;dub;prefer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aArSn4IhHI 765265;1406093712;assbot;We are the champions - YouTube 765266;1406093784;asciilifeform;lol 765267;1406094992;nubbins`;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9idfQVkqKyw 765268;1406094993;assbot;Rachmaninov Prelude in g minor - Op. 23 No. 5 - Gilels - YouTube 765269;1406095071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.16 = 5.6 BTC [-] 765270;1406095099;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Ah, I see the time set declined in value as well due to competitive alternatives existing nao 765271;1406095173;danielpbarron;BingoBoingo, yeah; the petrified time item is worth a lot more now since it's impossible to reverse the conversion 765272;1406095221;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, it was always worth more than any part, but... Back in the say the set used to be a 100+ million meat sort of deal 765273;1406095236;BingoBoingo;Fuck, BTC would have been a better investment 765274;1406095239;danielpbarron;my hemp backpack lost a lot of value when they implemented the back inventory slot and released an official mr. store style backback :< 765275;1406095266;danielpbarron;went from nearly 100 million meat down to 30 something million now 765276;1406095275;nubbins`;i uh 765277;1406095311;nubbins`;oh, you're talking about a game 765278;1406095312;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: On the plus side ignoring the thing for 6+ years means there's new content nao at least 765279;1406095364;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Didn't you get the memo that BTC is money for games? 765280;1406095389;nubbins`;i thought btc was the game 765281;1406095411;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: BTC is the game that binds all other games 765282;1406095411;nubbins`;you're saying these things are MONEY?! 765283;1406095435;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Nah, I'm saying games are connected by games nao. 765284;1406095440;BingoBoingo;Games all the way down. 765285;1406095445;nubbins`;right, right 765286;1406095467;danielpbarron;i sent Jick a message for him to answer on his podcast, telling him he should accept BTC for Mr. A's; he shot it down and mostly focused on the "tone" i used 765287;1406095516;danielpbarron;then I started trying to buy/sell meat for BTC in the game's official chat; got a message from Multi Czar telling me i'd get my account disabled if i continued.. 765288;1406095550;danielpbarron;even though their terms of use don't explicitly forbid buying/selling meat 765289;1406095559;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.16 = 2.4 BTC [-] 765290;1406095634;BingoBoingo;danielpbarron: Well, think more like mircea_popescu and what he did with Eve. You can trade shares of 1BTC corp for S.MPOE shares. Maybe start a 1BTMeat clan? 765291;1406095685;danielpbarron;i've got the counterparty thing; i think that is far enough removed from the act of buying/selling meat 765292;1406095714;danielpbarron;and I don't promote it in-game 765293;1406095748;danielpbarron;most users of KoL are pretty hostile to BTC anyway; there is a very strong socialist bent in there 765294;1406096101;BingoBoingo;Eh, most times you encounter a mass of people they will be opposed to you. That's what the whole girding your loins stuff in the old books is about. 765295;1406096474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 212 @ 0.00274866 = 0.5827 BTC [-] 765296;1406096856;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 765297;1406098494;moiety;!up drawingthesun 765298;1406098613;moiety;;;later tell asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#765262 << one of my favourite pieces of music, I collect canons. that's brilliant! 765299;1406098614;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 765300;1406098614;gribble;The operation succeeded. 765301;1406100357;Naphex;hey all o/ back from vacation 765302;1406103712;fluffypony;omg Naphex 765303;1406103713;fluffypony;HI! 765304;1406103717;fluffypony;I thought you died 765305;1406103854;Naphex;lol no 765306;1406103865;Naphex;been on vacation in ibz for 1 week 765307;1406103869;Naphex;tried to be disconnected 765308;1406104025;fluffypony;awesome 765309;1406104026;fluffypony;how was it? 765310;1406104106;Naphex;pretty fun and amaizingly nothing happend while i was gone :P 765311;1406104123;Naphex;got to sunbake, drink and party some for 1 week 765312;1406104331;fluffypony;awesome 765313;1406104359;fluffypony;Etherium presale already over 3000 BTC 765314;1406104364;fluffypony;trainwreck coming 765315;1406104388;fluffypony;"- We reserve the right to use up to 5000 BTC from the pre-sale while the pre-sale is running in order to speed up development." 765316;1406104587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.15730001 = 2.5168 BTC [+] 765317;1406104630;pankkake;http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=3447 765318;1406104631;assbot;Apple Responds, Contributes Little | Jonathan Zdziarski's Domain 765319;1406104715;moiety;hi naphex, wb, hope you had a great holiday :] 765320;1406104758;Naphex;hey moiety, thanks - I did :D 765321;1406104770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 390 @ 0.15450349 = 60.2564 BTC [-] {19} 765322;1406105380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 192 @ 0.00272396 = 0.523 BTC [+] 765323;1406106387;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bge40/im_crying_with_joy_over_here_my_toes_are_curling/ 765324;1406106387;assbot;Im crying with joy over here, my toes are curling in untold glee, I have little doubt that I shall live to see this, all of it. : Buttcoin 765325;1406106600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 358 @ 0.00144581 = 0.5176 BTC [-] {2} 765326;1406107881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 273 @ 0.00256402 = 0.7 BTC [-] 765327;1406107942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.02890175 = 0.7514 BTC [-] 765328;1406108247;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19323 @ 0.00080673 = 15.5884 BTC [+] 765329;1406108708;BigBitz;!up Guest73329 765330;1406108788;BigBitz;Guest73329 has something to say - apparently :) 765331;1406108803;Guest73329;Hey all. Theymos automatically bans anyone who posts his dox on bitcointalk.org -- to demonstrate simply paste http://pastie.org/9414192 in a reply, and your account will automatically be banned. 765332;1406108804;assbot;Private Paste - Pastie 765333;1406108849;BigBitz;Banning people who post his own private information is not that much of a shock, Guest73329. 765334;1406108922;pankkake;it's ok for others, though 765335;1406108959;pankkake;even if inaccurate 765336;1406109028;dub;considering all the other shit theymos will go up against the wall for.. 765337;1406109292;Guest73329;pankkake: He's absolutely OK with all dox except his own. 765338;1406110388;davout;ohai 765339;1406110412;davout;was the new mpex key advertised anywhere ? 765340;1406110445;dub;new domain? only here that I noticed 765341;1406110490;dub;(i think its an artifact of mp having fucked up DNS for the old one somehow) 765342;1406110553;davout;dub: i found http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2014#763531 i'm after something that's signed tho 765343;1406110554;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 765344;1406110607;dub;try teh faq 765345;1406110624;dub;its where the new key is, I assume that is signed 765346;1406110724;davout;not signed :-) 765347;1406110739;dub;the mpex key should be signed by mp 765348;1406111599;jurov;dub it is 765349;1406111616;jurov;not in the faq, but on the keyserver 765350;1406111660;jurov;!up anthor 765351;1406111747;jurov;http://pgp.surfnet.nl:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x02DD2D91 here is the signature 765352;1406111747;assbot;Search results for '0x02dd2d91' 765353;1406111819;jurov;!up Guest82296 765354;1406111833;jurov;!up saulimus 765355;1406115628;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17002 @ 0.00081189 = 13.8038 BTC [+] 765356;1406116736;davout;jurov: oic ty :) 765357;1406117275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31705 @ 0.00080519 = 25.5285 BTC [-] 765358;1406117848;ThickAsThieves;mircea_popescu:thickasthieves feel like running whatever that is ? /// what is what? 765359;1406117897;ThickAsThieves;mircea_popescu:canada hasn't had a good musician since cohen visited and the us... //// Propagandhi, Neil Young, Greg MacPherson, The Weakerthans 765360;1406118102;fluffypony;Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Justin Bieber 765361;1406118106;fluffypony;:-P 765362;1406118249;ThickAsThieves;mircea_popescu:BingoBoingo i saw some on tat's link too /// ah, it seems my post was simply moved from /r/bitcoin, a mod even posted he was mad at all the non-bitcoin-related posts yesterdya 765363;1406118461;ThickAsThieves;nubbins`:incidentally, if anyone's interested, this is what a "save the date" looks like: http://imgur.com/KxD5W0m /// not bad 765364;1406118461;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 765365;1406118498;dub;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25938-zoologger-moose-dribble-turns-off-grasss-toxic-defences.html 765366;1406118499;assbot;Zoologger: Moose dribble turns off grass's toxic defences - life - 23 July 2014 - New Scientist 765367;1406118573;ThickAsThieves;"- We reserve the right to use up to 5000 BTC from the pre-sale while the pre-sale is running in order to speed up development." lol so were they gonna just sit on their thumbs otherwise? 765368;1406118606;fluffypony;apparently 765369;1406118609;fluffypony;for 45 days 765370;1406118613;fluffypony;now instead they're goign to party 765371;1406118810;punkman;I liked this part: "EthSuisse will be liquidated shortly after creation of genesis block, and EthSuisse anticipates (but does not guarantee) that after it is dissolved the Ethereum Platform will continue to be developed by persons and entities who support Ethereum, including both volunteers and developers who are paid by nonprofit entities interested in supporting the Ethereum Platform." 765372;1406118897;ThickAsThieves;ethsuisse? 765373;1406118925;pankkake;so basically "kthxbye" 765374;1406118986;thestringpuller;so long and thanks for all the fish 765375;1406119339;ThickAsThieves;why did etherium wait so long to sell this anyway, their hype is like 6mos old already 765376;1406119340;punkman;http://dpaste.com/32KTGWC.txt 765377;1406119347;punkman;4k btc already 765378;1406119363;punkman;"WARNING: DO NOT PURCHASE ETH IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT IN DEALING WITH CRYPTOGRAPHIC TOKENS AND BLOCKCHAIN-BASED SOFTWARE SYSTEMS" 765379;1406119368;ThickAsThieves;ok so EthSuisse is basically the team 765380;1406119392;ThickAsThieves;and the team says they will liquidate without hesitation and leave the work to the community at will 765381;1406119395;ThickAsThieves;pretty awesome 765382;1406119417;ThickAsThieves;punkman i quote dthat same line yesterday, a great one 765383;1406119441;punkman;this ToS of theirs is full of gems 765384;1406119481;punkman;(and typos) 765385;1406119504;punkman;"It is possible that the Ethereum Platform will not be used by a large number of external businesses, individuals, and other organizations and that there will be limited public interest in the creation and development of distributed applications. Such a lack of interest could impact the development of the Ethereum Platform and potential uses of ETH. " 765386;1406119510;dub;http://thenostalgiamachine.com/ too cool 765387;1406119510;assbot;The Nostalgia Machine 765388;1406119528;ThickAsThieves;"Cryptography is an art, not a science." 765389;1406119538;pankkake;what the lol 765390;1406119591;ThickAsThieves;lol they also warn of victimofsuccessery "If the Ethereum Platform is rapidly adopted, the demand for ETH could rise dramatically and at a pace that exceeds the rate with which ETH miners can create new ETH tokens. Under such a scenario, the entire Ethereum Platform could become destabilized, due to the increased cost of running distributed applications. In turn, this could dampen 765391;1406119591;ThickAsThieves;interest in the Ethereum Project and ETH." 765392;1406119698;punkman;"ETH, the Ethereum Platform’s cryptofuel" 765393;1406119898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] 765394;1406119955;kakobrekla;dub no playall :( 765395;1406120161;ThickAsThieves;the solar system we got is officially making more than we are using :) 765396;1406120177;ThickAsThieves;lol, bad choice of words 765397;1406120180;ThickAsThieves;solar system 765398;1406120262;jurov;someone has hyperactive imagination there 765399;1406120352;pankkake;in case you guys are out of lols, http://time.com/money/3006715/millennials-higher-inflation-baby-boomers/ 765400;1406120355;assbot;What Millennials Want That Their Boomer Parents Hate - 1 765401;1406120450;jurov;i'm not out of lulz, just got another phish "from bitcointalk". they even went into trouble of photoshopping theymos' account: http://s8.postimg.org/j399erbpx/ads.jpg 765402;1406120457;ThickAsThieves;so many meaningless numbers and words in that article 765403;1406120520;ThickAsThieves;"I realize that the costs of these things will rise—prices always rise. It would just be nice if our salaries rose enough to pay for them." wish harder. 765404;1406120580;ThickAsThieves;pankkake i cant even suss what that article ia actually about 765405;1406120605;ThickAsThieves;is 765406;1406120704;pankkake;mainstream media prepping the general public for inflation 765407;1406120709;ThickAsThieves;TLDR = Inflation and Babies Happen and Here are Some Words Saying So 765408;1406120747;pankkake;wow, those shop skillz 765409;1406121085;ThickAsThieves;wow i'm scrolling through these Money articles on time.com and it 765410;1406121092;ThickAsThieves;s like 1984 in here 765411;1406121100;ThickAsThieves;all propaganda to the max 765412;1406121113;ThickAsThieves;"These 3 Companies Can Raise Prices Without Losing Your Business" 765413;1406121125;ThickAsThieves;"Free Jamocha Shakes at Arby’s on Wednesday" (dafuck?) 765414;1406121142;ThickAsThieves;"How to Convert a Summer Internship Into a Full-Time Job" (work for free plz!) 765415;1406121217;pankkake;we're having it all here. deflation would be catastrophic, there's not enough inflation, lowering prices is bad (currently used to forbid competitors and favor existing cartels) 765416;1406121227;ThickAsThieves;"Save 15% of pay for 30 years and you will be fine, a new study shows. Save for longer, and it gets much easier." 765417;1406121251;ThickAsThieves;pretty ugly 765418;1406121262;cazalla;whyareyousobutthurt = pankkake, right? :P 765419;1406121281;pankkake;cazalla: yes, it's the account I have at work 765420;1406121288;pankkake;good job 765421;1406121293;pankkake;I mean, from you 765422;1406121326;cazalla;only cause i saw that time link here and then 2 seconds later on reddit heh 765423;1406121393;cazalla;this is some top keks 765424;1406121459;ThickAsThieves;Sexy Saffron appears to be parlaying it up 765425;1406121511;cazalla;pankkake, i eagerly await the day coblee turns from saint to pariah 765426;1406121567;chetty;ThickAsThieves, you dose with bicarbonate to read things like time.com? 765427;1406121660;ThickAsThieves;i dont "read" time.com 765428;1406121671;ThickAsThieves;i skim it for glitches in the matrix 765429;1406122203;mircea_popescu;hey moiety! 765430;1406123765;mircea_popescu;dub: this is an invite but i've had pre-invites before << wtf is this invite to invite, ask to ask, meta bullshit anyway ? 765431;1406123823;mircea_popescu;do they send out "mr schmukersson will impulsively fuck mrs schmukersson thursday, august 15th around 7:12 pm, your presence is kindly solicited" spam too ? 765432;1406123895;mircea_popescu;bah im fucking late to the party 765433;1406123908;mircea_popescu;yo peoples! YOU SHOULD HAVE SAVED MY DATE! 765434;1406123950;pankkake;uh, I got some altcoins to 1MPGRCrbib3aFGtTCLF5nADZcLEAgdTu7E 765435;1406123959;pankkake;someone made a mistake? 765436;1406123967;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate princessnell 1 Rays fan 765437;1406123968;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user princessnell has been recorded. 765438;1406123976;mircea_popescu;benkay: hey have you guys heard about this ICBC auto insurance monopoly in BC? << kinda why i was so lulzed out at the entire "icbc is in pink sheets" nyse debacle. 765439;1406123984;mircea_popescu;that thing's probably worth more than the whole us atm. 765440;1406123996;mircea_popescu;;;rated princessnell 765441;1406123997;gribble;You rated user princessnell on Thu Jun 12 00:45:23 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: She's smart.. 765442;1406124003;mircea_popescu;aok 765443;1406124095;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: << if it's anything like the counterparty burn for xcp << supposedly this is not a burn, they intend to spend it. 765444;1406124168;mircea_popescu;benkay: this is what happens when you let the wimmins manage projects without oversight << word, seriously. and you should see what happens when you let them manage kids w/o oversight. 765445;1406124267;chetty;http://nakamotoinstitute.org/gpg-contracts/ 765446;1406124268;assbot;GPG Contracts | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute 765447;1406124268;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron: i sent Jick a message for him to answer on his podcast, telling him he should accept BTC for Mr. A's; he shot it down and mostly focused on the "tone" i used << incredible the gall of these fuckwits. 765448;1406124289;mircea_popescu;here's nobody doing nothing, and he has like... opinions on bitcoin and issues with tone and whatnot ? 765449;1406124292;mircea_popescu;we need a bigger jail. 765450;1406124358;mircea_popescu;chetty yeah, the guys asked for permission to republish 765451;1406124369;chetty; benkay: this is what happens when you let the wimmins manage projects without oversight << word, seriously. and you should see what happens when you let them manage kids w/o oversight.// yeah you get adults 765452;1406124372;mircea_popescu;Naphex so how was vacation ? new gf ? 765453;1406124383;mircea_popescu;chetty not you. women. 765454;1406124446;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: "- We reserve the right to use up to 5000 BTC from the pre-sale while the pre-sale is running in order to speed up development." << funny they didn't reserve it before the fucking thing started. 765455;1406124504;mircea_popescu;translation : "that asshole mp is putting pressure on our liquidity providers (what, you didn't think we OWNED the btc we're presenting as having been invested by third parties ?!) and so we won't be able to keep the charade up without recirculating some capital. sorry!" 765456;1406124518;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bhknd/btc_is_like_a_drug/ 765457;1406124518;assbot;BTC is like a drug : Bitcoin 765458;1406124518;pankkake;hence http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bge40/im_crying_with_joy_over_here_my_toes_are_curling/ 765459;1406124518;assbot;Im crying with joy over here, my toes are curling in untold glee, I have little doubt that I shall live to see this, all of it. : Buttcoin 765460;1406124545;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bhf59/bitcoin_taps_into_efficiencies_in_the_camwhore/ eh 765461;1406124546;assbot;Bitcoin taps into efficiencies in the camwhore market : Buttcoin 765462;1406124575;mircea_popescu;pankkake hehehe "btc did it 765463;1406124701;mircea_popescu;"Dear lord this is absolutely fucking grade-A insane. I had to read that first paragraph 4 times just because I just couldn't believe somebody would ever intentionally write something so convoluted. And it doesn't improve as the paper continues. In all seriousness, this reads almost exactly like the deranged manifestos that are left behind by school shooters, that is the vibe I get from whatever the fuck you want to ca 765464;1406124701;mircea_popescu;ll this" 765465;1406124711;mircea_popescu;i suppose the word he's looking for is "terrorism" 765466;1406124731;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform there you go. it was not stalin's fault. the people wanted, nay, the people needed it. all of it. 765467;1406124781;mike_c;sometimes this channel is a sausage fest. save the date's are very reasonable. you don't have all the details figured out, but you know the day and don't want people to book something else. 765468;1406124813;mircea_popescu;"A verbose and condescending essay written by a child who has never encountered true malice or been hungry in his whole life." << o, "you've never been hungry thus what you have to say is unimportant". because yeah, that's true value : to find out from the frequently hungry how they dun it! 765469;1406124834;pankkake;> I work in the adult comic industry and we sometimes publish furry comics (anthropomorphic people) and we frequently get taking down by banks and payment processors for distributing "bestiality." 765470;1406124835;mircea_popescu;mike_c how do you know the date if you don';t have other things (presumably, the girl ?) figured out ? 765471;1406124843;pankkake;oh god, furries coming to bitcoin 765472;1406124847;mircea_popescu;afaik it goes like this : pick a girl, pick a date, party. 765473;1406124857;mike_c;hahaha. 765474;1406124858;mircea_popescu;pankkake no that's quite old. 765475;1406124862;Pierre_Rochard;chetty: please let us know if you have any other candidates for republication 765476;1406124868;mike_c;no. 1) pick a girl. 2) she picks the date 765477;1406124880;mike_c;3) she starts planning for 6 months 765478;1406124880;mircea_popescu;mike_c you're not picking a girl then. 765479;1406124884;mike_c;4) party 765480;1406124899;mike_c;hm, that is a point 765481;1406124904;mike_c;who would want to marry a girl? 765482;1406124924;mircea_popescu;ask around :D 765483;1406124945;mike_c;full-grown woman is enough to manage. 765484;1406124995;mircea_popescu;why'd you marry a full grown woman ? 765485;1406124998;ThickAsThieves;my brother got surprise-eloped last week 765486;1406125002;mircea_popescu;they ran out of friendship cards in your town ? 765487;1406125058;mike_c;mircea_popescu: tax benefits. 765488;1406125099;mircea_popescu;trying to fix a problem with the town through marriage is not unlike trying to fix poor reception by holding the antenna in certain ways or a malfunctioning computer by running the tap nearby. 765489;1406125137;chetty; chetty: please let us know if you have any other candidates for republication// trilema is a gold mine 765490;1406125146;mircea_popescu;davout: was the new mpex key advertised anywhere ? << in faq and linked here. 765491;1406125162;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard the SA reddit subsection thinks you suck nao. 765492;1406125172;davout;mircea_popescu: yea, saw the link here but i was missing the signature bit 765493;1406125197;mircea_popescu;it's signed itself (there's a link to the pgp sks infrastructure with my signature on it) 765494;1406125225;mircea_popescu;a nm jurov said so. sorry, im parsing the logs rather than compiling them. 765495;1406125253;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how about this btw ? when confronted with the logs, i naturally settled on parsing rather than compiling. is this because im stupid or is this beause parsing is better ? 765496;1406125276;benkay;low investment upfront for middling-to-poor performance. 765497;1406125288;benkay;;) 765498;1406125335;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: you might have been thinking of 'interpret' 765499;1406125345;Pierre_Rochard;chetty: it is, I’ve been reading through as much as I can to see which articles are especially crypto/econ/bitcoin centered like GPG Contracts (and obvs to learn & think) 765500;1406125352;mircea_popescu;i go through it one ;line at a time and comment. sometimes this results in redundancy 765501;1406125375;asciilifeform;i suspect that most of us do this. 765502;1406125438;ThickAsThieves;cuz we wish we were there 765503;1406125442;ThickAsThieves;so we pretend 765504;1406125457;ThickAsThieves;and no one minds 765505;1406125465;benkay;wait ethsuisse? waht is this? 765506;1406125479;ThickAsThieves;its the dev team 765507;1406125480;asciilifeform;;;later tell moiety shame that modern pc includes no addressable stepper motor. but if you own, e.g. a scanner, you can still play this beautiful music... 765508;1406125481;gribble;The operation succeeded. 765509;1406125503;kakobrekla;or a floppy 765510;1406125582;asciilifeform;;;later tell moiety a true maestro will play, say, j.s. bach, correctly! that is, gigantic lift motors for the low octaves, little floppy drive head drivers for the highest. 765511;1406125583;gribble;The operation succeeded. 765512;1406125608;mircea_popescu;<ThickAsThieves> so we pretend << srsly. 765513;1406125635;asciilifeform;;;later tell moiety further example, if you liked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2UmkfixRH8 765514;1406125635;assbot;CNC machine playing tetris and still alive - YouTube 765515;1406125636;gribble;The operation succeeded. 765516;1406125641;mthreat;asciilifeform: the first IBM PC had some kind of relay, you could access it with the BASIC instruction "MOTOR ON" or "MOTOR OFF". If you turned it on and off in a loop, it was a buzzer. 765517;1406125654;asciilifeform;mthreat: the floppy. 765518;1406125670;kakobrekla;is this thing on? 765519;1406125689;cazalla;pankkake, that address is what BingoBoingo gave me to send ATC 765520;1406125700;mthreat;asciilifeform: I don't remember, maybe, but it sounded like a relay... 765521;1406125705;benkay;hi kakobrekla 765522;1406125711;pankkake;well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p 765523;1406125729;kakobrekla;a ok works . hi benkay . 765524;1406125777;mircea_popescu;pankkake: mainstream media prepping the general public for inflation << precisely. 765525;1406125778;mthreat;asciilifeform: cassette drive motor possibly 765526;1406125800;mircea_popescu;nothing lulzier than watching teh propaganda machine trying to spin utter failure into being chic, hip, and what these blasted youngsters want. 765527;1406125830;mircea_popescu; well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p << omg BingoBoingo WHAT HAVE YOU DUN NAO 765528;1406125865;pankkake;unfortunately there's no easy way to remove an address from bitcoin-qt 765529;1406125878;pankkake;and armory has a "swipe" feature, too 765530;1406125883;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: Sexy Saffron appears to be parlaying it up << the sign of a smart girl. you only need give a little push. 765531;1406125960;nubbins`;where i come from, you're not cool unless your money is worth less today than it was yesterday 765532;1406125996;mthreat;nubbins`: that's a lot of places 765533;1406126047;mthreat;starbucks raised their prices in Buenos Aires again yesterday. Since December 2013, the coffee I get has gone from 30 to 44 pesos 765534;1406126083;mircea_popescu;mthreat why do you drink starbucks tho ? 765535;1406126101;fluffypony;Pheeva put a TV ad out, it's actually kinda decent: 765536;1406126101;*;fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW3fM95L7RU&feature=youtu.be 765537;1406126102;assbot;Pheeva - Plus - Gyft - Troll TV Ad - YouTube 765538;1406126122;mthreat;mircea_popescu: because i don't know good vs. bad coffee probably, and it's the 2nd closest after Cafe Martinez (probably worse) 765539;1406126130;princessnell;Pierre_Rochard maybe http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ and http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ for posterity http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/ 765540;1406126131;assbot;A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765541;1406126132;assbot;The politics of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765542;1406126133;assbot;Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765543;1406126164;mircea_popescu;mthreat i've never paid more than about 25 or so for coffee myself, and never had a bad cup yet. 765544;1406126177;princessnell;Pierre_Rochard rota case study (i <3 law and econ) http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ and http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/ and http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ 765545;1406126179;assbot;The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765546;1406126180;assbot;Case I - Wences vs MPEx, Breach of fiduciary duty pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765547;1406126181;assbot;ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765548;1406126181;mircea_popescu;had some pretty good, not much of a coffee drinker myself, but i mean... they prolly import their shit. 765549;1406126214;cazalla;i wouldn't use pheeva on account the dev is fat albert 765550;1406126242;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ 765551;1406126243;assbot;The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765552;1406126251;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ 765553;1406126252;assbot;The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765554;1406126254;mthreat;mircea_popescu: I get the "venti" (20oz) size 765555;1406126261;princessnell;Pierre_Rochard also probably WoT lit http://trilema.com/2014/advanced-wot-course-how-the-wot-is-attacked-and-how-it-defends-itself/ 765556;1406126262;assbot;Advanced WoT course : how the WoT is attacked, and how it defends itself. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 765557;1406126296;Pierre_Rochard;princessnell: thanks! mircea_popescu: permission to republish? In general longer/older/timeless articles go to the literature section, shorter/newer/“current events” go to the Memory Pool. 765558;1406126322;nubbins`;mthreat: do yourself a favor and stop drinking charbucks 765559;1406126330;nubbins`;you may be surprised to learn that coffee has a taste 765560;1406126350;cazalla;hipster baristas up in here 765561;1406126368;nubbins`;crikey mate, you have hipsters down under? 765562;1406126407;cazalla;i live in the capital of hipsters, feminists, greenies in australia :\ 765563;1406126423;nubbins`;knowing what i know about you, this must drive you to the brink of suicide each day 765564;1406126467;mircea_popescu;aite, gotta do some meetings nao. bbl all. 765565;1406126568;cazalla;nubbins`, i'll out and see them do it first 765566;1406126571;cazalla;hold out* 765567;1406126583;nubbins`;that's my boy 765568;1406126626;kakobrekla;!up equex 765569;1406126631;kakobrekla;GOOD MORNING EQUEX 765570;1406126639;nubbins`;"i live in a place with stylish young people, independent women, and those who care about our natural environment. it's a real drag." 765571;1406126669;cazalla;they are none of those things though 765572;1406126679;nubbins`;to you, sure 765573;1406126698;cazalla;if they cared about their environment, they'd at least grow veg and raise their own meat at bare minimum 765574;1406126700;nubbins`;just like you're not a reasonable adult worthy of dignity and respect... to them 765575;1406126701;nubbins`;:D 765576;1406126720;nubbins`;is that the bare minimum tho? 765577;1406126723;cazalla;if they were independent, they wouldn't need handouts while undertaking women's studies 765578;1406126727;nubbins`;raising your own meat? 765579;1406126738;cazalla;i think so 765580;1406126755;*;nubbins` raises his own eyebrow 765581;1406126776;cazalla;although if you asked any of them, they'd tell you i'm running rabbit auschwitz here 765582;1406126780;nubbins`;you know raising meat animals in the first place isn't particularly great for the environment 765583;1406126846;nubbins`;hm, china received $34m in foreign aid from canada in 2012 765584;1406126908;nubbins`;http://cidpnsi.ca/blog/portfolio/canadas-foreign-aid/ 765585;1406126910;assbot;Canada's Foreign Aid spending around the world | CIDP | Canadian International Development Platform 765586;1406126953;rithm;SFW noob video: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=95714897 765587;1406126953;assbot;401 Authorization Required 765588;1406127003;pankkake;$56M to Russia 765589;1406127012;ThickAsThieves;NSFW you meant 765590;1406127024;cazalla;depends where you work eh 765591;1406127057;ThickAsThieves;well they didnt invent NSFW for sex workers 765592;1406127068;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2XHYV25.txt ) 765593;1406127068;mthreat;!b 3 765594;1406127142;nubbins`;$65m to gaza & west bank 765595;1406127264;cazalla;china and russia given aid, shows how little i know 765596;1406127335;mike_c;"So more economic growth (spurred on by more borrowing and spending) would help alleviate low wage growth" .. and i'm done. 765597;1406127390;penguirker;New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/07/23/x-eur-july-23rd-2014-statement/ 765598;1406127871;rithm;seemed safe to me 765599;1406128078;chetty;http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118747/ivy-league-schools-are-overrated-send-your-kids-elsewhere 765600;1406128078;assbot;Ivy League Schools Are Overrated. Send Your Kids Elsewhere. | New Republic 765601;1406128144;ThickAsThieves;"Before he started college, he spent most of his time reading and writing short stories. Three years later, he’s painfully insecure, worrying about things my public-educated friends don’t give a second thought to, like the stigma of eating lunch alone and whether he’s “networking” enough. " 765602;1406128287;pankkake;“Return on investment”: that’s the phrase you often hear today when people talk about college. 765603;1406128311;pankkake;college graduates are bagholders 765604;1406128408;benkay; benkay: this is what happens when you let the wimmins manage projects without oversight << word, seriously. and you should see what happens when you let them manage kids w/o oversight.// yeah you get adults // team effort, anyone? 765605;1406128474;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ 765606;1406128481;nubbins`;the stigma of eating lunch alone 765607;1406128490;nubbins`;i tell ya, worlds you didn't know existed 765608;1406128508;benkay; well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p << omg BingoBoingo WHAT HAVE YOU DUN NAO // yeah, i'm also curious as to what's going on here 765609;1406128516;benkay;morning, bitcoinpete 765610;1406128522;bitcoinpete;howdy benkay 765611;1406128532;benkay;how was pottery? 765612;1406128552;pankkake;I gave the private key to MP at a time I wasn't sure I could even transfer the coins in a timely manner 765613;1406128580;pankkake;so the private key is now known to multiple people 765614;1406128587;pankkake;and in multiple bitcoin clients 765615;1406128606;bitcoinpete;benkay: my hands are still stained from the autumn leaves glaze 765616;1406128606;pankkake;(well, altcoin) 765617;1406128644;benkay;gotcha. 765618;1406128656;benkay;this rescanning the blockchain thing is a total bitch, isn't it? 765619;1406128657;bitcoinpete;benkay: but for it being my first time on the wheel in a close to 15 years, quite well :D 765620;1406128689;benkay;what, after all, is the point of a "database" if one's not going to actually organize data in a useful fashion within? 765621;1406128760;benkay; unfortunately there's no easy way to remove an address from bitcoin-qt // delete from wallet.dat? or is that not actually a text file? 765622;1406128767;ThickAsThieves;bitcoinpete, unless i need more coffee, mp isnt allowing people to short ETH, he's allowing them to long it 765623;1406128785;pankkake;it's a Berkeley DB file 765624;1406128792;pankkake;there are tools to edit it, though 765625;1406128794;ThickAsThieves;they get more ETH for their money now 765626;1406128802;benkay;what an unmitigated goddamned disaster. 765627;1406128805;ThickAsThieves;but MP doesnt buy it til later 765628;1406128807;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: they get more later 765629;1406128816;ThickAsThieves;some would have to lend ETH to short it 765630;1406128831;bitcoinpete;mp is selling eth 765631;1406128834;ThickAsThieves;who's lending? 765632;1406128840;ThickAsThieves;ETH 765633;1406128843;bitcoinpete;not me ;) 765634;1406128847;ThickAsThieves;hehe 765635;1406128855;benkay; Pierre_Rochard also probably WoT lit // woterotica 765636;1406128859;ThickAsThieves;so no way to short it 765637;1406128887;benkay;'cept the classic popescuian naked short 765638;1406128900;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2014#764462 765639;1406128900;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 765640;1406128923;bitcoinpete;benkay: lol 765641;1406128940;bitcoinpete;pretty sure he has his ways 765642;1406128963;ThickAsThieves;^o^ 765643;1406128964;benkay;70% odds it's a naked short. 765644;1406128998;ThickAsThieves;i still dont see how I get to short ETH by entering MP's future offer 765645;1406129020;benkay;mp's going short, and offering to sell the thing to anyone at a future date below what it's selling for now. 765646;1406129027;ThickAsThieves;right 765647;1406129037;benkay;if mp's going short, how can you go short by taking the other side of his trade? 765648;1406129045;ThickAsThieves;this is my point 765649;1406129066;benkay;who's claiming that he's offering a vehicle for others to short? 765650;1406129066;pankkake;I think that's incorrect too. it allows you to get a better price if you're long, or MAYBE short it as long as you think it's won't go as low as 2.5x less 765651;1406129087;ThickAsThieves;bitcoinpete says "Effectively, MP is allowing you to “short” ETH." 765652;1406129106;bitcoinpete;lol to the correction car! 765653;1406129113;benkay;oh, bitcoinpete does derivatives now? 765654;1406129133;ThickAsThieves;just making sure we stay on-message! 765655;1406129134;pankkake;wait, why the fuck are they callimg themselves ETH Suisse? I just remembered: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_polytechnique_f%C3%A9d%C3%A9rale_de_Zurich 765656;1406129134;assbot;cole polytechnique fdrale de Zurich Wikipdia 765657;1406129137;ThickAsThieves;solidarity! 765658;1406129140;ThickAsThieves;for the motherland! 765659;1406129157;benkay;pankkake: "credit suisse" perhaps? 765660;1406129170;ThickAsThieves;or, i think bitcoinpete is cool so i dont want to see him have errors in his shit 765661;1406129201;benkay;-assets proofreading is best proofreading. 765662;1406129230;benkay;i am deploy from car 765663;1406129232;bitcoinpete;s/short/long 765664;1406129238;benkay;devops borat would approve 765665;1406129247;bitcoinpete;if that vernacular works... 765666;1406129263;benkay;it's almost like you use a real text editor too, bitcoinpete! 765667;1406129273;bitcoinpete;"to short" sounds so much better than "to long" 765668;1406129281;benkay;;) 765669;1406129334;bitcoinpete;;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 drinks coffee, knows derivativespeak 765670;1406129336;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded. 765671;1406129340;benkay;to go long 765672;1406129345;benkay;to take a long position 765673;1406129352;benkay;(in) 765674;1406129353;ThickAsThieves;i'd say you could almost short it if you bought real ETH, sold off-market for slight discount, then repurchased from MP, but you'd still be betting only on the availble spread, if price dropped below MP's offer, your short would be fukt ... even then they tell you cant do anyhting with the ETH til genblock is made... soooo 765675;1406129365;bitcoinpete;to golong 765676;1406129378;ThickAsThieves;he's basiclaly selling ETH at a discount 765677;1406129382;ThickAsThieves;cheapcoinz! 765678;1406129388;bitcoinpete;right! 765679;1406129391;benkay;;;ticker 765680;1406129393;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.01, Best ask: 622.87, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 622.87, 24 hour volume: 2729.87411553, 24 hour low: 618.0, 24 hour high: 624.99, 24 hour vwap: 621.168150006 765681;1406129400;benkay;ThickAsThieves: scammor 765682;1406129402;bitcoinpete;the smart kids will be all over mp's offer 765683;1406129402;ThickAsThieves;haha 765684;1406129404;ThickAsThieves;soon 765685;1406129413;benkay;what's smart about buying ether? 765686;1406129418;ThickAsThieves;nothing 765687;1406129426;benkay;wine with shit in it is still just shitty wine 765688;1406129433;pankkake;price is tempting regardless 765689;1406129458;bitcoinpete;benkay: beats me, ask the *kids* buying the shit 765690;1406129464;ThickAsThieves;you could argue that the noob hypewagen is strong enough to carry ETH value above MP's offer 765691;1406129468;mike_c;but shitty wine at half price! 765692;1406129477;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: entirely possible 765693;1406129535;benkay;i guess a hedge against ether going somewhere isn't such a bad idea, but it totally fails the good investments criteria. 765694;1406129542;benkay;starting with not actually existing. 765695;1406129562;benkay;it's just the whole "i missed btc, maybe this will make me rich" self delusion alllllllll over again. 765696;1406129575;ThickAsThieves;i think the best part about the offer is it's potential to disrupt the live offering 765697;1406129588;pankkake;if you look at similar coins, like nxt and ripple, they're still valued quite high 765698;1406129591;benkay;vb & co. imagine they're actually doing something, but they're just draining the wallets of latecomers 765699;1406129595;ThickAsThieves;i'd love for people to be buying from MP instead of the actual people 765700;1406129596;princessnell;i love that it reveals the exhuberance 765701;1406129638;pankkake;!up stormlight 765702;1406129643;benkay;"quite high" sure, but are they going to go from .01 US per to 10k per? 765703;1406129647;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: they still need the patience tho 765704;1406129662;bitcoinpete;8 months is 8 years for "i wanna rich nao" ppl 765705;1406129663;pankkake;benkay: not my point, my point is about taking MP's offer 765706;1406129665;ThickAsThieves;and it's an audience that hates mp, soooo, fat chance 765707;1406129682;asciilifeform;is everyone familiar with the proverbial 'money trap' ? 765708;1406129682;ThickAsThieves;maybe he can buy their love 765709;1406129697;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: do tell 765710;1406129712;asciilifeform;container with, say, banana, and a hole big enough for the beast's hand, but not if it holds the bait 765711;1406129714;ThickAsThieves;isnt that a Tom hanks movie? 765712;1406129714;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: maybe if they were camgirls 765713;1406129733;Pierre_Rochard;;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Amoraim of b-a 765714;1406129734;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded. 765715;1406129738;bitcoinpete;hand in a cookie jar thing 765716;1406129738;benkay;pankkake: yeah, i know what you're saying. this discussion hearkens back to a thing a wise old man harps on about how if you can have the patience to see past the next 6 months to two years you can make trades the rest of the market won't consider because they want 17%/annum *now* 765717;1406129740;ThickAsThieves;Sexy Saffron better not tell reddit she's an mp employee 765718;1406129741;asciilifeform;monkey reaches in, grasps banana, refuses to let go, sits there. until hunter shows up. 765719;1406129747;bitcoinpete;Pierre_Rochard: why ty 765720;1406129755;asciilifeform;this is quite analogous to the altchain folks 765721;1406129787;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: also how herschel tricked one of the channukah goblins. eggs in the jar iirc 765722;1406129799;benkay;bitcoinpete: yup. 765723;1406129807;pigeons;hey mircea_popescu I havent followed, but i saw you are selling eth foward contract or similar. I wanted to suggest putting something similar on mpex, i think that would do well 765724;1406129829;asciilifeform;if any of them took the trouble to write something interesting (e.g. system analogous to the original btc but of proper, rather than 'power ranger' quality) and resisted the temptation of premine shenanigans, etc. - but no. 765725;1406129834;asciilifeform;can't let go of banana. 765726;1406129864;benkay;asciilifeform: even if they could reimplement the thing from scratch, it still wouldn't touch btc proper. 765727;1406129881;benkay;and they can't "let go of banana" and write a real wallet, adding value to the ecosystem. 765728;1406129889;pigeons;oh dont tell me mpex is still down from weeks ago? 765729;1406129891;kakobrekla;power ranger has infinite hitpoints. 765730;1406129898;benkay;mpex.ws, pigeons 765731;1406129903;pigeons;thanks 765732;1406129912;benkay;.co works as well for me iirc 765733;1406129952;pigeons;go isnt working at the moment from my location at least 765734;1406129958;pigeons;co 765735;1406130073;ThickAsThieves;mpex.wallstreet 765736;1406130077;bitcoinpete;Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb · 38m Up to 19thC, people in the Levant changed religion to stay in the land. Today they change land to keep religion. (Druzes⇒Maronites⇔Shiites) << sounds downright civilized 765737;1406130213;asciilifeform;benkay: point is not that a hypothetical altchain created by thinking people would displace traditional btc, but that it is theoretically possible to build something that's at least worth thinking about. 765738;1406130256;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: but that'll never get teh community on board. teh views! 765739;1406130350;asciilifeform;no shortage of possible experiments to choose from (e.g. Lamportian 67% theoretical maximum threshold (see 'byzantine generals') instead of 51; programmable work functions; a hundred other things) 765740;1406130370;asciilifeform;!s turingcoin 765741;1406130370;assbot;2 results for 'turingcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=turingcoin 765742;1406130390;asciilifeform;!s slavecoin 765743;1406130391;assbot;22 results for 'slavecoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=slavecoin 765744;1406130405;pankkake;!s coincoin 765745;1406130405;assbot;1 results for 'coincoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coincoin 765746;1406130421;asciilifeform;but no. somehow altchain folks can only think of duplicating spam stock business model. 765747;1406130437;benkay;actual programmers being few and far between. 765748;1406130439;chetty;http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/22/Islamic-State-Says-Mannequins-in-Maul-Must-Wear-Veils 765749;1406130440;assbot;Islamic State Says Mannequins Must Wear Veils 765750;1406130648;benkay;maul? 765751;1406130667;bitcoinpete;http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.ca/2014/07/what-textbooks-dont-tell-you-one-of.html 765752;1406130667;assbot;BPS Research Digest: What the textbooks don't tell you - one of psychology's most famous experiments was seriously flawed 765753;1406130673;benkay; actual programmers being few and far between. // not to imply anything about myself, ofc just a derpy webapp guy 765754;1406131001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.0142 = 0.8094 BTC [+] 765755;1406131065;chetty;http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.ca/2014/04/a-self-fulfilling-fallacy.html#at_pco=smlwn-1.0&at_si=53cfda39a97adc45&at_ab=per-3&at_pos=0&at_tot=1 765756;1406131066;assbot;BPS Research Digest: A self-fulfilling fallacy? 765757;1406131164;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 765758;1406131165;gribble;129685563.491 765759;1406131183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.81503056 BTC to 12`514 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 765760;1406131267;bitcoinpete;"SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks: Plan Would Allow Money Funds to Temporarily Block Investors from Withdrawing Money in Times of Stress" 765761;1406131275;assbot;trixisowned +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 765762;1406131288;benkay;hohoho yes link please, bitcoinpete 765763;1406131296;bitcoinpete;http://online.wsj.com/articles/sec-to-vote-on-final-money-market-mutual-fund-rules-1406124323 765764;1406131296;assbot;SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks - WSJ 765765;1406131305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 23.66675304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2058 satoshi per share 765766;1406131345;kakobrekla;!up trixisowned 765767;1406131357;trixisowned;neh 765768;1406131380;trixisowned;just wanted to lol @ https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 together 765769;1406131381;assbot;Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 765770;1406131531;bitcoinpete;trixisowned: myeah. almost passed mastercoin exodus thing of 4740.6200979 BTC 765771;1406131544;benkay;so. sad. 765772;1406131593;danielpbarron;https://blockchain.info/address/1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr 765773;1406131595;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr 765774;1406131612;danielpbarron;2`130.83749757 BTC burned 765775;1406131708;benkay;"The vote ends more than five years of struggle over how to address structural vulnerabilities in the funds that encourage investors to bolt at the first sign of trouble." LTCM anyone? 765776;1406131976;ThickAsThieves;SEC Seeks To Install Ponzi Throttle 765777;1406132083;ThickAsThieves;"Financial Stability Oversight Council, have said such redemption restrictions could spur, rather than curb, investor stampedes." indeed 765778;1406132116;benkay;ThickAsThieves: http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alc0nzy/media/IPD_VOLVO_C30_NOS_TANKS.jpg.html 765779;1406132117;assbot;IPD_VOLVO_C30_NOS_TANKS.jpg Photo by alc0nzy | Photobucket 765780;1406132160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.1411 = 1.2699 BTC [-] 765781;1406132196;ThickAsThieves;"Under the plan, fund boards would have the discretion to impose redemption fees of up to 2%, or to temporarily halt redemptions altogether, if their weekly pool of cash or cash like assets drops below the agency's required ratio of 30%" 765782;1406132226;ThickAsThieves;your investments, now 70% off! 765783;1406132379;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 765784;1406132382;gribble;Current Blocks: 312136 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18789848431.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.38432 765785;1406132494;mike_c;is mpex.co going to get fixed ever? or is it just dead. 765786;1406132537;ThickAsThieves;it's mpex.ws now 765787;1406132547;ThickAsThieves;and some other one 765788;1406132554;mike_c;ok. so .co isn't coming back 765789;1406132568;ThickAsThieves;that i dont know 765790;1406132708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 49 @ 0.01425 = 0.6983 BTC [-] 765791;1406133157;bitcoinpete;benkay: mike_c stop opposing progress and an end to oppression. // hey have you guys heard about this ICBC auto insurance monopoly in BC? << i think only bc is socialist enough to do this 765792;1406133171;bitcoinpete;bc wants to be like california and shit 765793;1406133182;bitcoinpete;with their own little movie industry and everything 765794;1406133268;bitcoinpete;time to catch up on weird al... 765795;1406133378;lobbes;the problem I have with weird al nowadays is that I don't even know the songs he is parodying anymore 765796;1406133479;bitcoinpete;lobbes: sounds more like your problem than his ;) 765797;1406133494;bitcoinpete;http://vevo.ly/yRwiKB << nice little stab at dogederps 765798;1406133545;nubbins`;how's it compare to rates in the rest of canada? 765799;1406133694;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: not too sure 765800;1406133989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 407 @ 0.00277422 = 1.1291 BTC [+] {7} 765801;1406134044;danielpbarron;bitcoinpete, hahah same here 765802;1406134062;danielpbarron;weird al was the first artist I ever bought a cd for; I heard his parodies before the originals 765803;1406134089;danielpbarron;so i guess.. not same here.... heh 765804;1406134116;danielpbarron;oh, lobbes said that; whoops 765805;1406134477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 341 @ 0.00284852 = 0.9713 BTC [+] {6} 765806;1406134493;pankkake;$proxies 765807;1406134496;empyex;pankkake: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1060 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 765808;1406134513;benkay;$mpexlag 765809;1406134514;empyex;benkay: 561 milliseconds 765810;1406134586;pankkake;!search goxlag 765811;1406134587;assbot;138 results for 'goxlag' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=goxlag 765812;1406135026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 527 @ 0.00285959 = 1.507 BTC [-] {4} 765813;1406135087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.0028841 = 0.721 BTC [+] {6} 765814;1406135576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.140384 = 7.0192 BTC [-] {2} 765815;1406135941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1403 = 0.8418 BTC [-] 765816;1406136093;benkay;http://opennamesystem.org/ 765817;1406136094;assbot;Open Name System 765818;1406136163;danielpbarron;neato; is this a Namecoin killer? 765819;1406136196;benkay;can't say yet need moar read 765820;1406136246;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.13374999 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2} 765821;1406136402;bitcoinpete;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hello/sense-know-more-sleep-better 765822;1406136403;assbot;Sense: Know More. Sleep Better. by Hello — Kickstarter 765823;1406136448;bitcoinpete;"The app tells you how well you slept, or didn't, by giving you a unique Sleep Score each night. You can begin to correlate interruptions in your sleep to external conditions and disturbances. You can play back key sound disturbances via the app to say “Ah, the garbage truck broke my sleep cycle at 3am. I didn’t even realize that.” 765824;1406136501;bitcoinpete;$99 and it's yours. delivery estimated in november 2014 765825;1406136514;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: already done, ages ago, by various vendors ('zeo' - now defunct - had a fairly good machine.) 765826;1406136571;bitcoinpete;nao with apps! 765827;1406136605;xmj;eo was nice 765828;1406136607;xmj;zeo* was nice 765829;1406136613;bitcoinpete;http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicetruong/2012/02/24/battle-of-the-zzzs-how-zeos-sleep-monitors-stack-up/ 765830;1406136613;assbot;Battle of the Zzzs: How Zeo's Sleep Monitors Stack Up - Forbes 765831;1406136632;xmj;It's really really sad Zeo went bust. 765832;1406136794;asciilifeform;the funny part is that wearing the electrodes utterly destroyed my sleep quality. and, on the other hand, the variants without electrodes ('actigraph' gadgets) are junk - they can only distinguish 'REM' from other phases of sleep, but nothing more. 765833;1406137053;danielpbarron;bitcoinpete, i already have a free app that does that sort of thing.. ended up deleting it because too many apps 765834;1406137089;bitcoinpete;ya i once used one too 765835;1406137098;danielpbarron;it figures it out based on your movements as you sleep 765836;1406137104;bitcoinpete;but it only worked on my old spring mattress 765837;1406137114;bitcoinpete;foam soaks up all the vibrations 765838;1406137126;danielpbarron;i used it with success on a sofa 765839;1406137142;bitcoinpete;and by vibrations i mean tossing and turning 765840;1406137150;bitcoinpete;danielpbarron: ya i could see that 765841;1406137382;asciilifeform;reminds me of a legend (forgot where i heard it, perhaps even here.) 765842;1406137406;asciilifeform;one fellow, (said to have lived in romania) built piezos into his bed legs 765843;1406137411;asciilifeform;and logged pressure 765844;1406137454;asciilifeform;one day he went on a long journey, and when came back, discovered that max(weight) > him + wife. 765845;1406137590;asciilifeform;whether he stayed awake in school math and had the sense to look at the actual waveform (perhaps wife was fond of jumping on the bed?) before divorcing, i do not know. 765846;1406137647;bitcoinpete;lol 765847;1406137689;bitcoinpete;sorta like othello with the handkerchief 765848;1406137711;bitcoinpete;she had to be cheatin! 765849;1406138062;bitcoinpete;"But for those who missed out on getting in on Bitcoin early, Ethereum's launch represents something of another chance." 765850;1406138069;bitcoinpete;http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-launches-ether-2014-7 << says it all 765851;1406138069;assbot;Ethereum Launches Ether - Business Insider 765852;1406138095;benkay;I WAS JUST SAYING THIS 765853;1406138155;pankkake;and I said it before you all, about all altcoins :) 765854;1406138219;benkay;cept i guess "there will never be another {silicon,internet,bitcoin}" doesn't push views 765855;1406138254;bitcoinpete;and it's only fair if everyone gets rich! 765856;1406138279;mike_c;we are all above average drivers. 765857;1406138302;bitcoinpete;with above average cocks 765858;1406138313;mike_c;except the irish 765859;1406138334;bitcoinpete;pretty sure the irish have below average everything 765860;1406138356;bitcoinpete;but what do i know 765861;1406138392;bitcoinpete;well i know that this is hirarious: "Big Trend Capital Investment (HASH): We are engaged as a distributor of mining products and a novel mining service. We primarily service retail customers through storefronts such as Amazon, EBay, and our own eStore at BuyAHash.com." 765862;1406138395;bitcoinpete;https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HASH 765863;1406138396;assbot;Havelock Investments 765864;1406138396;pankkake;never another silicon? 765865;1406138399;bitcoinpete;dat ipo 765866;1406138434;bitcoinpete;and i'm off. later! 765867;1406138463;pankkake;but indeed, there will never be another internet. especially with ipv6 765868;1406138668;benkay;i mean the kind of sociocultural upheaval that accompanied silicon and then the internet, and will eventually fall out of bitcoin, pankkake 765869;1406138697;benkay;centralization of markets resulting in companies like ebay 765870;1406138850;benkay;danielpbarron: the little reading i've done suggests that it's not a namecoin killer, as that'd require...studying existing solutions and then doing it better. i've yet to find much support fot eh notion that the folks involved have done any research at all yet. 765871;1406138860;benkay;"As of yet, no work has been done on adding support for blockchain domains to ONS and the ONS command line tools." 765872;1406139075;pankkake;ugh, it's onename.io 765873;1406139083;pankkake;they just do the same, but less, and worse 765874;1406139104;thestringpuller;naemcoin is kinda cool tho 765875;1406139106;pankkake;and they're really misleading users 765876;1406139135;thestringpuller;OneName.io = facebook with gpg 765877;1406139147;thestringpuller;didn't this already go down with keybase.io ? 765878;1406139601;benkay;keybase wanted your 'encrypted' private keys. 765879;1406139642;asciilifeform;self-service gasenwagen. wave of the future. amazing! technology. 765880;1406139642;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 765881;1406140701;benkay;man the derp brigade is out in force today 765882;1406140702;benkay;https://www.provetrust.com/ 765883;1406140702;assbot;ProveTrust 765884;1406140742;benkay;"play good with others" lost art of grammar 765885;1406140820;pankkake;because no one can fake a facebook account 765886;1406140847;benkay;quite the deep learners 765887;1406140869;pankkake;and confusing trust (what businesses want) and identity verification (what the tax man wants) 765888;1406140942;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/greatapes omg, sometimes reddit delivers 765889;1406140943;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 765890;1406140985;benkay;countdown to sub termination: 10... 765891;1406141041;pankkake;https://i.imgur.com/bVojk6K.jpg 765892;1406141100;asciilifeform;benkay: sham-wots are as inevitable as shamchains. 765893;1406141134;asciilifeform;they taste great together. like der fuhrer's walther and cyanide capsule. 765894;1406143765;thestringpuller;benkay: i like how many companies are appearing that can just be subverted with the WoT. 765895;1406143844;benkay;i don't. it's a phenomenal waste of human capital. 765896;1406143948;thestringpuller;just cattle. let them die off; we can scavenge the refuse for useful stuff afterwards. 765897;1406144219;midnightmagic;mircea_popescu: I found that labour-intensive salt cooking reference I mentioned the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRHNa9qdtlw#t=1096 765898;1406144219;assbot;A bite of China English subtitles EP1 The Gift of the Nature - YouTube 765899;1406144542;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9407 @ 0.00005999 = 0.5643 BTC [+] {2} 765900;1406144893;benkay; just cattle. let them die off; we can scavenge the refuse for useful stuff afterwards. // biodiesel 765901;1406145532;fluffypony;mircea_popescu could be the largest æthereum holder with ease, yo - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563925.msg7991275#msg7991275 765902;1406145532;assbot;[RFC] thereum: a turing-complete coin distributed as per bitcoin's blockchain 765903;1406145644;thestringpuller;so Ethereum tx script's are turing complete? 765904;1406145650;thestringpuller;that sounds slightly dangerous on some levels... 765905;1406145658;fluffypony;yes - this is æthereum tho 765906;1406145689;thestringpuller;~_~ @_@ <.<;; I don't know and have no opinion. 765907;1406145699;fluffypony;which, from what I understand, is a fork that lets you just pick up the æthereum equivalent of your BTC balance 765908;1406145702;thestringpuller;except that Taaki is not a "bitcoin legend" >:( 765909;1406145712;fluffypony;needs moar hero worships 765910;1406147959;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard:mircea_popescu: permission to republish? << well, no. an article is one thing, but wholesale copying of trilema serves little purpose. put up an adnotated article list if you want, that seems to serve your purpose better, or if not do commentary on the individual articles 765911;1406148067;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: mthreat: do yourself a favor and stop drinking charbucks << talking to ex-us-mil guy, "i'll tell you what starbucks is. back in the force, they'd make these largish tanks of coffee at the crack of down, keep them on reheat, throw them out at night. starbucks is pretty much like a drink out of that tank right before it getting thrown out. which is why they put all the cream and crap into it : gotta try and mas 765912;1406148067;mircea_popescu;k the badly burnt coffee" 765913;1406148136;mircea_popescu;nubbins`:"i live in a place with stylish young people, independent women, and those who care about our natural environment. it's a real drag." << i can see it. 765914;1406148311;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/argentina-debt-mediation-goes-surreal-neither-side-turns-meeting-black-market-peso-t 765915;1406148319;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: understood, we’ll go the annotated article list route 765916;1406148447;mircea_popescu;chetty for the record, the peso was trading 12.2 - 12.7 yesterday 765917;1406148458;mircea_popescu;so their graphs are the usual crap. 765918;1406148496;mircea_popescu;also it never touched 12.x in march, talking out of ass these ppls. 765919;1406148531;chetty;yeah well people talk street price kinda need a street :P 765920;1406148607;mthreat;chetty, mircea_popescu I got 12.2 pesos per USD 2 hours ago 765921;1406148619;mircea_popescu;mthreat exactly. 765922;1406148637;mthreat;to pay for bad coffee 765923;1406148665;mircea_popescu;mthreat actually i see it's 12.3x atm. 765924;1406148672;chetty;mthreat, seriously stay out of chatbucks, will rot your gut 765925;1406148707;mthreat;ya, i usually get under the top "blue rate", but my cueva hasn't given me fake money 765926;1406148712;mircea_popescu;pankkake: and in multiple bitcoin clients << i never bothered to get a client myself so there's that. 765927;1406148723;mircea_popescu;mthreat i've not yet had a fake bill either. 765928;1406148740;mircea_popescu;in about... i dunno, a bagful or so. 765929;1406148741;mthreat;mircea_popescu maybe the cost of production is > than the value heh 765930;1406148749;mircea_popescu;money here's a real joke, largest bill ~$8 765931;1406148760;chetty;I am thinking fake bills are a myth 765932;1406148775;mircea_popescu;mthreat they're printing like crazy for sure, tho. usually i get ~40% new bills, but the last few buys i got 80-100% new bills. 765933;1406148792;mthreat;sounds like the US :) 765934;1406148793;mircea_popescu;chetty just, cheaper for the govt to print em than for the independent crooks 765935;1406148799;mircea_popescu;so they drive them out of biz. 765936;1406148878;mircea_popescu;benkay: or is that not actually a text file? << hasn't been a texrfile for all of two years. 765937;1406148913;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: 765938;1406148914;mircea_popescu;so no way to short it << im shorting it. 765939;1406148929;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/492027099499462657 765940;1406148940;BingoBoingo;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=618163698&oldid=617800185 765941;1406148943;assbot;Reptilians: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 765942;1406148990;mircea_popescu;it does allow you to go into a technical short, by buying the future and selling your spot, if you hold any. 765943;1406149000;mircea_popescu;but this is a point of finesse 765944;1406149022;mircea_popescu;(basically it ensures that no institutionals will be holding eth today for the purpose of satysfying a mid or long term goal, is all) 765945;1406149032;BingoBoingo;%t 765946;1406149034;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 239 Last Price: 239 24h-Vol: 114k High: 239 Low: 210 VWAP: 222 765947;1406149042;chetty;http://uncoverobamacare.com/undercover-federal-agents-find-it-incredibly-easy-to-defraud-obamacare/ 765948;1406149043;assbot;Uncover Obamacare | 11 of 12 Undercover Federal Agents Find It Incredibly Easy to Defraud ObamaCare 765949;1406149050;BingoBoingo;%ob 765950;1406149051;atcbot;18k@242 47k@240 2k@239 | 140k@210 200k@202 45k@201 765951;1406149121;BingoBoingo;http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/blog/morning-edition/2014/07/5-reasons-the-bitcoin-bowl-is-good-for-tampa-bays.html 765952;1406149122;assbot;5 reasons the Bitcoin Bowl is good for Tampa Bay's tech scene - Tampa Bay Business Journal 765953;1406149139;BingoBoingo;^ Note BitPay isn't in Tampa Bay 765954;1406149279;BingoBoingo;benkay> well, he has the private key, but I have it too. not smart :p << omg BingoBoingo WHAT HAVE YOU DUN NAO // yeah, i'm also curious as to what's going on here << OMG Opsec fail 765955;1406149292;mircea_popescu;course no institutionals would have bought any anyway, but as a point of principle. 765956;1406149352;rithm;what is ether scam 765957;1406149382;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: i think the best part about the offer is it's potential to disrupt the live offering << no, the best part is pulling the rug from under the scammer's feet quite unexplectedly. 765958;1406149393;mircea_popescu;now it's quite clear they';re recycling some borrowed btc as "investments". 765959;1406149402;ThickAsThieves;you say the same thing as me 765960;1406149406;ThickAsThieves;just meaner 765961;1406149411;ThickAsThieves;;) 765962;1406149412;mircea_popescu;now that may be :D 765963;1406149463;rithm;https://balances.io/ 765964;1406149464;assbot;Balances All your digital currency balances in one place. 765965;1406149464;mircea_popescu;ironically enough, doge i've been selling. eth, none. 765966;1406149474;rithm;looks neat if wasn't a three letter honeypot 765967;1406149475;mircea_popescu;;;refresh 765968;1406149475;gribble;Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed. 765969;1406149557;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: 765970;1406149557;mircea_popescu;and it's an audience that hates mp, soooo, fat chance << you know how many of these there've been, over the years ? and how painfully and mean-ly they've been humiliated ? 765971;1406149565;mircea_popescu;startin' all the way to the good ol' boys of glbse and so on. 765972;1406149572;mircea_popescu;zee bitcoin bankerz cartel, 765973;1406149586;mircea_popescu;good times. 765974;1406149609;pankkake;rithm: you can do watch-only with most clients now 765975;1406149644;rithm;i know so i'm not sure what it accomplishes other than intel gathering and noob convenience 765976;1406149672;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/1000/republicans-win-majority-of-the-u-s-senate/ 765977;1406149672;assbot;BitBet - Republicans win majority of the U.S. Senate :: 1.07 B (71%) on Yes, 0.43 B (29%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 98`238 (100`000 to 1) 765978;1406149679;mircea_popescu;srsly ? rep majority ? i tell you i dun see it. 765979;1406149683;pankkake;I think you can do it already with blockchain.info too 765980;1406149699;ThickAsThieves;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7988372#msg7988372 765981;1406149699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund 765982;1406149707;mircea_popescu;a) how the fuck are conservatives going to make electoral gains in populist times and b) who the fuck do the republicans even represent anymore, they've lost the teaparty. 765983;1406149746;pankkake;by not being conservatives, but some random nutjob thing 765984;1406149760;ThickAsThieves;they represent sameness 765985;1406149769;ThickAsThieves;democrat is change 765986;1406149772;ThickAsThieves;change is bad 765987;1406149784;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i liked https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7918899#msg7918899 better. 765988;1406149784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund 765989;1406149800;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the way the us is going, anything's better than sameness. 765990;1406149813;ThickAsThieves;i'm speaking for the masses of course 765991;1406149815;ThickAsThieves;not myself 765992;1406149821;ThickAsThieves;change is dope 765993;1406149826;mircea_popescu;after 8 years of "we can do it" and "change nao" i doubt you can find any broad group that's of the oppinion things can continue as they are. 765994;1406149846;mircea_popescu;this is the major advantage for the fucktarded socialists : once la revolucion starts it fucks up things so badly people want a revolution. 765995;1406149849;mircea_popescu;and so... permanence! 765996;1406149945;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2bfwaw/mircea_popescu_offers_a_short_of_etherium_coins/cj5e00i lol 765997;1406149946;assbot;Bitcoin_Error_Log comments on Mircea Popescu offers a short of Etherium coins up to 1 KiloBTC's worth at 5000 per BTC deliverable in 2015 765998;1406149959;mircea_popescu;"i can't imagine xyz" is now an argument. 765999;1406150002;rithm;mp have you sullied yourself in this ether scamcoin 766000;1406150015;mircea_popescu;how ? 766001;1406150061;rithm;obv i'm skimming 766002;1406150076;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: Sexy Saffron better not tell reddit she's an mp employee << that's okay, the only thing that's keeping derppit from a collective headexploy is all the shit their collective dumbass doesn't know. 766003;1406150080;mircea_popescu;o sorry. "can't imagine". 766004;1406150128;ThickAsThieves;lol 766005;1406150137;mircea_popescu;pigeons: hey mircea_popescu I havent followed, but i saw you are selling eth foward contract or similar. I wanted to suggest putting something similar on mpex, i think that would do well << i asked, people lol'd. which is why it's in otc. 766006;1406150146;ThickAsThieves;true philosophers 766007;1406150150;rithm;so you are selling 5000 ether, deliverable in 2015, for 1 BTC now? 766008;1406150154;rithm;it's genius 766009;1406150178;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i was chuckling at the buttcoin treatment earlier, "let's look at things from the position that popularity matters and then get all aggitated when nothing makes sense". 766010;1406150184;mircea_popescu;rithm ty. 766011;1406150205;pigeons;is there a built-in mechanism for these suckers, i mean people to trade their ether before/if the production network ever comes out? 766012;1406150220;mircea_popescu;pigeons afaik, no. 766013;1406150229;ThickAsThieves;from what i read, the ETH is in total lockdown til it's released 766014;1406150229;pigeons;that's why i was thinking an mpex listing would be nice, people could trade it 766015;1406150229;mircea_popescu;a scam doesn't work very well in the open. 766016;1406150245;rithm;but it doesn't exist yet to be traded 766017;1406150257;pigeons;its aptly named i guess 766018;1406150259;rithm;there's not a working implementation is there? 766019;1406150265;rithm;like an ethereumd 766020;1406150272;BingoBoingo;http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/sorry-this-gif-is-not-available-in-your-browser 766021;1406150272;assbot;sorry this gif is not available in your browser 766022;1406150274;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: if any of them took the trouble to write something interesting (e.g. system analogous to the original btc but of proper, rather than 'power ranger' quality) and resisted the temptation of premine shenanigans, etc. - but no. <<< quite. 766023;1406150275;pigeons;i had some esther or something the other day, it wasnt ether but it worked in the same manner 766024;1406150275;ThickAsThieves;no, "winter 2014/15" 766025;1406150291;rithm;pigeons, yeah perfect name 766026;1406150305;rithm;calling it ether almost seems like expert troll 766027;1406150305;pigeons;rithm: there is a testnet that executes contracts, but themining alogirthm will change when they decide to make one up 766028;1406150306;mircea_popescu;pigeons i grew up with a one lb bottle of liquid ether in my chemistry lab. tru story. 766029;1406150320;pigeons;lost of other stuff will change when they get around to making it up as well 766030;1406150327;ThickAsThieves;ethereum ‏@ethereumproject 2m 766031;1406150328;ThickAsThieves;The only location to purchase ether is http://j.mp/1nkJeYG - Any other website, emails, skype, twitter, etc are scams. 766032;1406150328;assbot;ethereum 766033;1406150335;ThickAsThieves;heh 766034;1406150349;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves lulz 766035;1406150354;rithm;nice pretty site, dancing logo, buy now 766036;1406150355;ThickAsThieves;you are scams 766037;1406150362;mircea_popescu;scammors calling things scamz nao. 766038;1406150379;mircea_popescu;this is like so 2012 all over again. 766039;1406150385;mircea_popescu;hey SEC ? where the fuck is your dumb ass baby ? 766040;1406150402;rithm;but ethereum has no plans to "integrate" or use the bitcoin blockchain for any type of verification, right? 766041;1406150409;rithm;it's a totally new alt-chain implementation 766042;1406150414;mircea_popescu;we will definitely have a showdown over all this crap one of these days. and as to why james gibson & his merry scammer friends are stil on the street. 766043;1406150417;rithm;do i understand that correctly? 766044;1406150417;benkay; Pierre_Rochard:mircea_popescu: permission to republish? << well, no. an article is one thing, but wholesale copying of trilema serves little purpose. put up an adnotated article list if you want, that seems to serve your purpose better, or if not do commentary on the individual articles // think talmud 766045;1406150419;mircea_popescu;and to the rest of em. lube up. 766046;1406150446;mircea_popescu;here i am, by my lonesome, trying to keep some semblance of discipline, 766047;1406150452;pigeons;rithm: correct 766048;1406150458;mircea_popescu;while the usg is busy drinking chateau lafitte out of the taxpayer's moneyz. 766049;1406150460;mircea_popescu;for shame. 766050;1406150501;benkay; benkay: or is that not actually a text file? << hasn't been a texrfile for all of two years. // cult of complexity 766051;1406150511;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: mpex.wallstreet << bingo. 766052;1406150512;rithm;...and the reason being the turingincompletedness of bitcoin 766053;1406150524;rithm;i don't seeing having the value bitcoin has 766054;1406150535;rithm;chisel that in stone in your logs 766055;1406150550;rithm;* idon't see it 766056;1406150563;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: no shortage of possible experiments to choose from (e.g. Lamportian 67% theoretical maximum threshold << that's not the good part. the good part is a better chaining methodology. 766057;1406150642;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00079777 = 6.4619 BTC [-] 766058;1406150648;benkay;what are the flaws of the current chaining methodology, mircea_popescu ? 766059;1406150667;ThickAsThieves;ohnoes coindesk commenter has burned me: "I wish i could see your stupid face in about 10 years when almost every interaction you have with an electronic device relies on a decentralized blockchain.. "we don't need smart contracts" haha are you for real!? " 766060;1406150667;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu pigeons i grew up with a one lb bottle of liquid ether in my chemistry lab. tru story. << do I dare ask what you did with said ether? 766061;1406150676;ThickAsThieves;mah stupid face! 766062;1406150730;mircea_popescu;benkay you read the http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 ? 766063;1406150731;assbot;Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 766064;1406150743;ThickAsThieves;"I think smart contracts are pretty revolutionary, and once they're commonplace we'll all wonder how we got along without them." this is people responding to me asking wtf will actually use it 766065;1406150744;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves does the guy have a name ? 766066;1406150763;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-launches-ether-coin-millions-already-sold/ 766067;1406150763;assbot;Ethereum Launches Own 'Ether' Coin, With Millions Already Sold 766068;1406150767;ThickAsThieves;the commenter? 766069;1406150769;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller it's a major feedstock for a number of organic chemistry reactions. 766070;1406150771;mircea_popescu;i also burned some 766071;1406150776;mircea_popescu;i didn't actually huff it 766072;1406150779;ThickAsThieves;no, he posted as Some R Dumb 766073;1406150780;mircea_popescu;but i did put out a cat a number of times. 766074;1406150806;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves well clearly if "he thinks" and "he can't see" your dumb face he wins the internets. 766075;1406150839;ThickAsThieves;"Instead of making a "You guys just don't understand how big this is going to be" comment, why don't you tell us what your plans involve so we get a better idea of what ethereum is? " ~smarter commenter 766076;1406150851;ThickAsThieves;response: 766077;1406150853;ThickAsThieves;I sincerely apologize. My comment was directed at the user who said that no one would want or need this. I cant get into specifics on what we are working on but here are a few questions that spring into mind. 766078;1406150853;ThickAsThieves;Who is going to be the facebook of ethereum? 766079;1406150864;ThickAsThieves;Who is going to be the google of ethereum? (well... lets not kid ourselves... probably google on that one) 766080;1406150866;mircea_popescu;lmao 766081;1406150872;ThickAsThieves;there's more... 766082;1406150872;mircea_popescu;so wait, is ths ninjashoguncoin ? 766083;1406150873;ThickAsThieves;lol 766084;1406150878;mike_c;;;seen the20year 766085;1406150878;gribble;the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: nubbins`: i sent you my address 766086;1406150883;ThickAsThieves;fukn hilarious people 766087;1406150895;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves if that's how you call terminal retards. 766088;1406150909;ThickAsThieves;this is the first timei'm upvoting things i disagree with 766089;1406150912;ThickAsThieves;just too awesome 766090;1406150977;mircea_popescu;o which reminds me : funny notice in local quikmart : "esta terminantemente prohibido la venta a menores de 18 anos" 766091;1406151039;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: "SEC To Complete Rules Aimed at Reducing Money-Fund Risks: Plan Would Allow Money Funds to Temporarily Block Investors from Withdrawing Money in Times of Stress" << epic. 766092;1406151058;mircea_popescu;sec to announce partnership with bitcoin scammers next, to fight terrorism and other stresses. 766093;1406151109;ThickAsThieves;Draper will be on Colbert tonight, prepare for derpy bitcoin jokez 766094;1406151156;mircea_popescu;mike_c: is mpex.co going to get fixed ever? or is it just dead. << nah will come bax 766095;1406151168;ThickAsThieves;we got yo bitcoinz bitchez! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtPmdawCQAI7LKA.jpg 766096;1406151169;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves which one is draper again ? 766097;1406151173;mike_c;too late, i changed all my links. it's dead to me :) 766098;1406151175;ThickAsThieves;the SR auction weiner 766099;1406151178;mircea_popescu;the guy that didn't manage to buy some bitcoins and also had a sextape ? 766100;1406151187;mircea_popescu;is he going with nicole richie ? 766101;1406151198;ThickAsThieves;only time will tell! 766102;1406151202;mircea_popescu;mike_c worx. 766103;1406151233;benkay; benkay you read the http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 ? // read it yes, but the context? 766104;1406151234;assbot;Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 766105;1406151234;mircea_popescu;lobbes: the problem I have with weird al nowadays is that I don't even know the songs he is parodying anymore << this is because you've stopped fucking teenagers. 766106;1406151247;mircea_popescu;benkay you were asking how to improve the blockchain. 766107;1406151264;pigeons;don't forget the child porn and drug trafficicking to go with the terrorism. oh and file-sharing 766108;1406151265;benkay;ah. 766109;1406151294;ThickAsThieves;“I give bitcoin 12 to 18 months before its fate will be decided by lawmakers. We don’t have a lot of time to tackle these issues, and if we don’t, bitcoin will be narrowed down to a hobbyist niche and not a true industry.” ~ Perianne Boring 766110;1406151298;mircea_popescu;benkay: can't say yet need moar read << pls let the group know. 766111;1406151308;benkay;keep reading, boss 766112;1406151310;mircea_popescu;;;rated bitcoingirl 766113;1406151310;gribble;You have not yet rated user bitcoingirl 766114;1406151322;ThickAsThieves;“There’s nobody else in DC that cares about bitcoin, bitcoin has a terrible reputation, people are scared to touch it, nobody wants to be involved with it, and a lot of it is a lack of understanding.” 766115;1406151334;mircea_popescu;;;rate bitcoingirl -1 Absolutely unbearably clueless, self promoting dumb broad. 766116;1406151335;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user bitcoingirl has been recorded. 766117;1406151375;mircea_popescu;they are going to be A LOT more scared, i'm getting a "get in touch" program out for politicians. 766118;1406151385;mircea_popescu;this scared is nothing. 766119;1406151394;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust assbot bitcoingirl 766120;1406151394;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bitcoingirl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoingirl | Rated since: Wed Jul 23 17:35:32 2014 766121;1406151428;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: chaining methodology << sure. and ten other things. 766122;1406151436;mircea_popescu;yeah. 766123;1406151451;ThickAsThieves;Amagi Metals, Inc ‏@AmagiMetals 5h 766124;1406151451;ThickAsThieves;Amagi no longer accepting Dogecoin: https://www.amagimetals.com/info/amagi-metals-no-longer-accepting-dogecoin/ … #dogecoin #muchsad #crypto 766125;1406151459;mircea_popescu;anyway, i was originally thinking bitcoin-the-prototype needs to run about five years before actual iteration is worth contemplating 766126;1406151467;mircea_popescu;that'd be up in about six months. so by all means. 766127;1406151500;benkay;hm. 766128;1406151528;benkay;cross-chain wallet for alphacoinz was on my personal roadmap 766129;1406151547;thestringpuller;#shibelyfe 766130;1406151583;*;asciilifeform whispers 'btc in silico' 766131;1406151638;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: $99 and it's yours. delivery estimated in november 2014 << expensive, but it's not actually a bad idea. 766132;1406151693;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu, bitcoinpete: just an old idea. as in, hardware you can actually buy. 766133;1406151713;mircea_popescu;most good ideas are old 766134;1406151721;mircea_popescu;they get older as fucktards chase the mba train of spam. 766135;1406151801;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: before divorcing, i do not know. << why divorce the woman just because she's getting exercise ? 766136;1406151827;mircea_popescu;benkay: I WAS JUST SAYING THIS << basically doge opened the way for "mainstream" media shilling. 766137;1406151843;mircea_popescu;now all these unemployable fuckwits with business insider blogs and whatnot expect a coupla hundred to tout the next scam. 766138;1406151879;mircea_popescu;i guess in a sense this is just the unavoidable effect of their irrelevant impotence. "if you can't do something useful anyway, might as well make a buck doing something pointless" 766139;1406151910;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: pretty sure the irish have below average everything <<< irish chicks have above average to epic freckles. 766140;1406151986;mircea_popescu;benkay: keybase wanted your 'encrypted' private keys. << oh such lulz. 766141;1406152021;mircea_popescu;Secure connection: fatal error (552) https://www.provetrust.com/ << i guess it's been proven. 766142;1406152021;assbot;ProveTrust 766143;1406152123;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/8jD4GV5.jpg 766144;1406152167;mircea_popescu;goes well with http://whiteslavebcn.tumblr.com/ 766145;1406152168;assbot;white slave bcn 766146;1406152180;mircea_popescu;http://inferiorcracker.tumblr.com/ etc. 766147;1406152181;assbot;white slave for Black 766148;1406152472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 801 @ 0.00297861 = 2.3859 BTC [+] {8} 766149;1406152523;mircea_popescu;benkay: i don't. it's a phenomenal waste of human capital. << there is no such thing as "waste" of human capital any more han there's waste of carbon. it's an element, whatever it gets used for is just fine. 766150;1406152565;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: mircea_popescu could be the largest thereum holder <<< could is such a majik word. 766151;1406152587;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic a bit more marketing in that than i'd be looking for. 766152;1406152656;fluffypony;coulda-would-shoulda 766153;1406152675;fluffypony;it's sorta like first-biggest-best 766154;1406152733;mircea_popescu;anyway, the part where there's 500 ether aethereum ethereum etc is certainly helpful. 766155;1406152748;mircea_popescu;one of the reason girls trying to break into porn have to work so hard is that there's so damned many of them 766156;1406152801;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: except that Taaki is not a "bitcoin legend" >:( <<< i beg to differ. taaki is a bitcoin legend : http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/ 766157;1406152803;assbot;Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice to anyone serious involved in Bitcoin. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 766158;1406152805;mircea_popescu;he's legendary stupid. 766159;1406153121;mircea_popescu;http://33.media.tumblr.com/b51c7167d6ec495a7a109df4056504c3/tumblr_n81s5bghWL1rl2t88o1_500.jpg << o look what i found 766160;1406153364;*;dub looks for the unsee button 766161;1406153448;pigeons;yeah like i shouldnt already know better than to click one of mircea_popescu's links 766162;1406153613;benkay;http://localbitcoins.smshost.biz/ 766163;1406153614;assbot;Check if your bitcoin private key was leaked 766164;1406153862;fluffypony;lol 766165;1406153874;kakobrekla;if balance is greater than 0, it was not. 766166;1406153887;kakobrekla;now mp sez but smart hacker will wait for mo monies. 766167;1406153894;kakobrekla;and kako sez http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#765707 766168;1406153894;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 766169;1406154424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 279 @ 0.00432511 = 1.2067 BTC [-] {7} 766170;1406154665;mircea_popescu;i r not say anything. 766171;1406154696;dub;mike_c: no. 1) pick a girl. 2) she picks the date mike_c: 3) she starts planning for 6 months 766172;1406154699;dub;truth 766173;1406154772;mircea_popescu;you're all a buncha pussies. 766174;1406154802;mike_c;yeah, a REAL man picks his own wedding date :p 766175;1406154824;mircea_popescu;a real man weds chuck morris. 766176;1406154852;mike_c;chuck norris will now destroy b-a because you got his name wrong. 766177;1406155002;dub;she just finalised our venue, twas all I could do to drag it back to 300km away from 10000km 766178;1406155020;mike_c;your friends and family thank you for your efforts. 766179;1406155021;mircea_popescu;lol r/SA has now established that i am not smart, all my good points are repackaged from someone else. 766180;1406155040;mircea_popescu;my sides. i imagine libertards are smart in entirely novel, innovative ways, right ? because such a thing can ever be :D 766181;1406155068;dub;wait, something awful has a reddit? 766182;1406155088;mircea_popescu;i am thankful for the internet for this, by the way. before every idiot had a voice, the world was less amusing, and the reasons why the poor must be whipped daily less obvious. 766183;1406155095;mircea_popescu;dub http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bge40/im_crying_with_joy_over_here_my_toes_are_curling/ 766184;1406155096;assbot;Im crying with joy over here, my toes are curling in untold glee, I have little doubt that I shall live to see this, all of it. : Buttcoin 766185;1406155105;mircea_popescu;after they sold buttcoins.org to bfl they moved to reddit. 766186;1406155202;mircea_popescu;anyway, the person i'm repackaging is christos ballas, which kind-of informs as to the depth of intelligence the core of us libertards has at its disposal : they can dig as deep as about the past coupla months, and that's that. 766187;1406155218;mike_c;lol, sometimes they get one right: "Christ almighty. Can you summarize that in like a few thousand words?" 766188;1406155222;mircea_popescu;i guess it works fine for most blogs, which really aren't much deeper than that, and definitely for most perianne borings, which... yeah. 766189;1406155233;mircea_popescu;mike_c i suspek that's unintentional. 766190;1406155243;mike_c;blind squirrel etc. 766191;1406155269;mircea_popescu;anyway, i guess my knowing who they are and who they fucked and all the dirt makes this an unequal contest and therefore me racist or somesuch. 766192;1406155325;mircea_popescu;"Yeah, certainly not every Bitcoiner is a redpiller. 766193;1406155326;mircea_popescu;As far as my observations go, I think there are many idealists, but they are a bit complicit in that these fuckers aren't shouted down or ejected because they are "of the community"." 766194;1406155345;mircea_popescu;i mean check out that beauty. "what, mp can eject each and every reddit communitard if he so chooses ?!?! not possibru!!! 766195;1406155357;mircea_popescu;because reality is by consensus and power is by headcount!!! LIBERTARDIA!!!!" 766196;1406155419;mircea_popescu;i thot they still teach in those social pseudosciences just how informative one's apparent assumptions are. i guess nobody does psychology seriously since the pills huh. 766197;1406155811;BingoBoingo;OMG we better not tell /r/Buttcoin who started linking TLP up in here... 766198;1406156008;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i got a lulz out of their scummy apology/explanation as to how they sold the domain to bfl. 766199;1406156028;mircea_popescu;typical "whoddunit/not me" infantilism. it was a mistake but we're not really stupid, we did it for the cash but we're not really desperate, 766200;1406156042;mircea_popescu;it's like the talking points of the lost generations. they did it "ironically". 766201;1406156142;BingoBoingo;It really is some magic, thinking they can talk something to death, but then actually damaging everything by selling out to the worst actor in the space they derped against for so long. 766202;1406156160;mircea_popescu;#freenode is terminally fucking braindamaged. a year ago they stopped taking donations because "it was too much effort". since then i've been trying to get them a server up. pretty much zero interest. 766203;1406156168;mircea_popescu;there's just no way this shit can survive on the mid term. 766204;1406156196;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i suspect the reasoning here is that "bfl is bad for bitcoin" and so therefore selling to them is "bad for bitcoin" and so it's a smart move. 766205;1406156208;mircea_popescu;too stupid to evaluate the compound errors in there. 766206;1406156299;hanbot;mircea_popescu aww, nobody's hated on me like that (reddit) in a while 766207;1406156312;BingoBoingo;All the while they forget that in the past year BFL has went from being bad for Bitcoin to merely being bad for a certain kind of people who want into Bitcoin and probably ought to begin buying pre-order lube 766208;1406156333;hanbot;mp gets all the bitches 766209;1406156414;mircea_popescu;basically, bfl is essentially bad for... them. 766210;1406156440;mircea_popescu;it makes all its money out of exploiting the erroneous mindset that derps matter and groups work. 766211;1406156466;mircea_popescu;as the old saying goes, a man deserves the life he choses. 766212;1406156540;BingoBoingo;I guess if there is one thing to learn from a year and a half of Havelol's history it is that Bitcoin also seems to be killing the veil of corporate protection as a formal construct https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7987373#msg7987373 766213;1406156540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund 766214;1406156923;benkay; she just finalised our venue, twas all I could do to drag it back to 300km away from 10000km // sucker - i had mine in the backyard of the house in which i grew up. 766215;1406156939;benkay;which just so happens to be six blocks from my current residence. 766216;1406157053;benkay;lolk so what did bitcoingirl do to piss you off, mircea_popescu ? 766217;1406157279;dub;we're in a backyard too, for the portion that isn't on the beach 766218;1406157306;BingoBoingo;benkay: Have you seen what Ms Boring has been writing lately? 766219;1406157438;benkay;no i tuned out a long time ago 766220;1406157444;benkay;link me to great lulz plox 766221;1406157454;dub;albeit a $1000/night backyard 766222;1406157513;benkay;yeah, but it's not the backyard of your childhood and also you're paying for it. 766223;1406157539;mike_c;you also pay for it if you don't give her the wedding she wants. 766224;1406157567;benkay;boring and company llc doesn't even register on google, wtf 766225;1406157575;dub;there are far too many backyards of my childhood and few of them meet the >10000km away requisite 766226;1406157579;benkay;sheeeeeit you give them the wedding? 766227;1406157586;dub;<* 766228;1406157590;benkay;what happened to the dowry? 766229;1406157668;BingoBoingo;benkay: Basically Ms. Boring forked the foundation taking a stronger stand in favor of "Let's all just surrender to the State more and faster now, k thx" 766230;1406157730;benkay;yes but links please, BingoBoingo 766231;1406157761;BingoBoingo;http://www.coindesk.com/perianne-boring-regulators-will-decide-bitcoins-fate-within-18-months/ 766232;1406157761;assbot;Perianne Boring: Regulators Will Decide Bitcoin's Fate Within 18 Months 766233;1406157783;BingoBoingo;^ I dunno what could mistate things worse 766234;1406157789;mircea_popescu;benkay just being her usual dumb self. 766235;1406157803;mircea_popescu;hanbot wait, what did they say ? 766236;1406157810;benkay;gotta love how her face is the lede 766237;1406157828;mircea_popescu;http://33.media.tumblr.com/7d805745fa357a95aa9f05ec5f921eec/tumblr_mpv5gu5An11rfcxy6o1_500.gif 766238;1406157831;mircea_popescu;gif related. 766239;1406157853;benkay;intern for the white house? 766240;1406157856;benkay;hue hue hue hue hue 766241;1406157857;benkay;man 766242;1406157883;benkay;the joke there is that nobody saw how dumb of an idea claiming to be a pretty young intern at the white house is 766243;1406157886;mircea_popescu;forgeddaboutit. 766244;1406157897;dub;whats the op called where they send in fuckable chicks to get ammunition on targets ala assange? 766245;1406157936;benkay;wow you guys actually read coindesk 766246;1406157959;mircea_popescu;so my... conventional munitions alarm went off. 766247;1406157973;mircea_popescu;turns out... these people are digging an extension to the metro. WITH DYNAMITE. 766248;1406157982;mircea_popescu;so argentina. much surprising. all the fucking time. 766249;1406157997;benkay;gotta love los portenos 766250;1406158010;mircea_popescu;nuts. 766251;1406158030;*;benkay is amazed at the amount of dick going into that butt 766252;1406158033;mircea_popescu;who the fuck blasts metro tunnels ?! is it like what, 1860 ? 766253;1406158042;benkay;can't import boring machines 766254;1406158049;benkay;wait there's a topic pun in there 766255;1406158053;benkay;topical* 766256;1406158056;benkay;boring 766257;1406158059;benkay;drilling 766258;1406158061;benkay;perianne 766259;1406158061;dub;welcome to teh 3rd world 766260;1406158062;benkay;nah 766261;1406158078;dub;benkay: stopit 766262;1406158102;mircea_popescu;dub girl clearly has no stop tit. 766263;1406158169;benkay;tit stop 766264;1406158170;benkay;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb2GFyKv4fA 766265;1406158170;assbot;Tit Stop Factory - YouTube 766266;1406158228;mircea_popescu;people can't fucking enunciate 766267;1406158240;mircea_popescu;"listentomesluralltheconsonantsintoaporrigeofmushty" 766268;1406158324;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> who the fuck blasts metro tunnels ?! << broke countries? 766269;1406158381;mircea_popescu;i guess. 766270;1406158389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 264 @ 0.00283392 = 0.7482 BTC [-] 766271;1406158428;mircea_popescu;!up CheapBoy 766272;1406158429;CheapBoy;How is Mircea Popescu shorting going? 766273;1406158451;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#765965 766274;1406158451;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 766275;1406158615;CheapBoy;I don't understand your link. 766276;1406158626;CheapBoy;I am interested in betting against you. 766277;1406158637;mircea_popescu;so how many you wanna buy ? 766278;1406158677;CheapBoy;15000? 766279;1406158700;mircea_popescu;for delivery march 15th ? 766280;1406158714;benkay;;;gettrust CheapBoy 766281;1406158714;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user CheapBoy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=CheapBoy | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheapBoy | Rated since: never 766282;1406158742;mircea_popescu;benkay ironically, for this deal he doesn't actually need one. he's the long party. 766283;1406158746;mircea_popescu;!up nycbtcpros 766284;1406158751;CheapBoy;Delivery march 15th 766285;1406158761;CheapBoy;Yes 766286;1406158775;benkay;just out of curiousity, how do you plan to verify his identity for delivery come next march? 766287;1406158787;mircea_popescu;benkay same address. 766288;1406158791;BigBitz;delivery of what ? 766289;1406158808;benkay;sign a thing with the addr from which he pays you? 766290;1406158814;CheapBoy;My worry is, how is delivery guaranteed? 766291;1406158819;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy ok, that'll be 3 btc, with the caveat that if eth is not released or not trading come march 15th you get 1 satoshi back. 766292;1406158821;dub;lol 766293;1406158830;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust mircea_popescu 766294;1406158830;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 154 via 88 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 766295;1406158833;mircea_popescu;thusly. 766296;1406158835;CheapBoy;1 satoshi ouch. 766297;1406158866;CheapBoy;What guarantee do the people buying presale ehereum get as of now? 766298;1406158874;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2XRBN6Z.txt ) 766299;1406158874;benkay;!b 1 766300;1406158890;mircea_popescu;nothing afaik. 766301;1406158895;CheapBoy;That guarantee should be tradable before it is released I hope... 766302;1406158903;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/deci-piata-financiara-bine/ << here's a model contract, from back in 2012. 766303;1406158904;assbot;Deci piata financiara, bine ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 766304;1406158909;mircea_popescu;happens to be the first future deal in btc, too. 766305;1406158935;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy i have no problem with your assigning your delivery, but to do that you will need to register a gpg signature in the wot. 766306;1406159009;BigBitz;delivery of what ? <-- 766307;1406159015;benkay;BigBitz: ether. 766308;1406159020;mircea_popescu;BigBitz the eth scamcoin. you gotta read teh logs more. 766309;1406159022;CheapBoy;Sounds good and serious, what is gpg signature? 766310;1406159029;benkay;;;google gpg 766311;1406159030;gribble;The GNU Privacy Guard: ; GNU Privacy Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; GPGTools - It's worth protecting what you love: 766312;1406159031;BigBitz;Ohhh. Ethereum. lol. 766313;1406159036;BigBitz;the pre-premine coin. 766314;1406159040;mircea_popescu;BigBitz bingo. 766315;1406159042;benkay;;;google gpg ultimate guide 766316;1406159043;gribble;Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal: ; Creating a new GPG key | Ana's blog - ekaia dot org: ; Generating More Secure GPG Keys: A Step-by-Step Guide: 766317;1406159049;dub;PGP: Sounds good and serious. 766318;1406159050;mircea_popescu;jesus i was looking to say bigtitsbingo for a long time. 766319;1406159051;BigBitz;So wait you're giving him, like, what 9 months ? 766320;1406159057;benkay;CheapBoy: the alexcabal link is the one. 766321;1406159063;mircea_popescu;BigBitz yeah. 766322;1406159076;BigBitz;mircea_popescu one day... just one day... I hope to be 5% as rich as you. 766323;1406159079;CheapBoy;And how can you guarantee delivery? 766324;1406159082;mircea_popescu;dub dun hate on teh noobs. 766325;1406159087;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy by saying so. 766326;1406159095;dub;I'm not, its a great quote 766327;1406159099;CheapBoy;Sounds foolproof. 766328;1406159103;mircea_popescu;it is. 766329;1406159105;BigBitz;delivery is provable by a wallet? a trading 'site' ? 766330;1406159111;CheapBoy;Who here "vouches" for mircea? 766331;1406159116;mircea_popescu;jesus i was waiting to answer "it is" to two diff people in one line forever. 766332;1406159126;mike_c;CheapBoy: that is what the web of trust is for: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu 766333;1406159127;assbot;Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu' 766334;1406159129;BigBitz;;;gettrust mircea_popescu 766335;1406159129;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 14 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 766336;1406159132;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy if you lok in the gribble response above you see the list of all the 88 people. 766337;1406159148;mircea_popescu;pick some you know from there, ask 'em. 766338;1406159150;BigBitz;in fairness some of those 88 people are not the most trusted :P 766339;1406159158;mircea_popescu;BigBitz obv. 766340;1406159164;BigBitz;rg :( 766341;1406159180;mircea_popescu;BigBitz http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ << mandatory reading i say. 766342;1406159181;assbot;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 766343;1406159194;BigBitz;mircea_popescu you should look at my WoT. 766344;1406159199;dub;in counter-fairness check out tux' ratings 766345;1406159210;mircea_popescu;lol cunterfairness 766346;1406159215;mircea_popescu;BigBitz i know. but it's been upgraded. 766347;1406159246;BigBitz;aside from my scammer ratings. my WoT is in good shape. 766348;1406159258;CheapBoy;Mircea Thanks for explaining. 766349;1406159292;CheapBoy;I am hesitating, it says "scheduled for release winter 2014/2015" on the site. Pretty big risk it's delayed imo. 766350;1406159315;mike_c;indeed. mircea_popescu: what would you charge for 1 year? 766351;1406159341;mircea_popescu;mike_c im not gonna bother with > 9 months. 766352;1406159346;mike_c;forget it. my momentary insanity passed. 766353;1406159351;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy delayed past march ? 766354;1406159371;CheapBoy;Yes delayed past march. 766355;1406159381;mircea_popescu;well fine, have it your way. july 25th. 766356;1406159389;mircea_popescu;same price. 766357;1406159393;CheapBoy;Delaying crowdfunding things is pretty standard at kickstarter 766358;1406159435;benkay;kinda the whole point 766359;1406159438;benkay;;;gettrust bitb 766360;1406159439;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user bitb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=bitb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitb | Rated since: never 766361;1406159443;benkay;;;gettrust BigBitz 766362;1406159443;mircea_popescu;i have nfi why anyone'd do business with people who announce xmas and then fail to deliver in march, but then again... 766363;1406159443;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask BigBitz!~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz. Trust relationship from user benkay to user BigBitz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=BigBitz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BigBitz | Rated since: Fri Apr 26 11:13:53 2013 766364;1406159461;benkay; i have nfi why anyone'd do business with people who announce xmas and then fail to deliver in march, but then again... // what, you calling asciilifeform a scammer? 766365;1406159487;mircea_popescu;benkay you will note nsa didn't sell cardanos. 766366;1406159610;mircea_popescu;mkay, im off to get mthreat drunk. back in a while. 766367;1406159611;benkay;mhm. a solid distinction for sure. 766368;1406159620;benkay;dammit argentina 766369;1406159626;mircea_popescu;CheapBoy best do some reading, lot of ground to cover before jumping into things. 766370;1406159635;CheapBoy;Mircea, thanks. 766371;1406159667;CheapBoy;Would you buy ethereum for me even though it's not officially released, but tradable? 766372;1406159699;mike_c;what would be trading if it wasn't released? 766373;1406159700;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: You are a brave soul going long on Ether. 766374;1406159793;CheapBoy;hehe, coming here I'm getting more scared. 766375;1406159852;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: Nah, we don't bite much. 766376;1406159857;benkay;you should never be scared to make a trade. 766377;1406159862;benkay;if its a good trade, you'll know. 766378;1406159866;benkay;if you're scared, listen to that. 766379;1406159871;pigeons;who are these people buying it? i see everyone ssaying the obvious about who knows what a good price is and if the platform will ever materialize, but someone is paying 766380;1406159922;benkay;same as it ever was 766381;1406159925;BingoBoingo;pigeons: Prolly Vitalik, Aspergzors is an adequate substitute for intelligence, Buterin paying himself 766382;1406159929;benkay;the hype cycle was just reeeeeally long. 766383;1406159936;midnightmagic;mircea_popescu: so far the authentic chinese food I've tasted pretty much lives up to its visual appeal; Yunnan province (where a lot of that episode was filmed) is delicious and very un-weird. 766384;1406159964;midnightmagic;but ehh.. propaganda piece for tourism. i'm okay with that 766385;1406160019;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: If you actually want the Ether, mircea_popescu's short if the cheapest offer going 766386;1406160057;BingoBoingo;I just dunno why anyone would want ether that can't soak a rag 766387;1406160084;pigeons;yeah it should be able to soak a rag, but dont do it that way you hobo 766388;1406160144;pigeons;pressurize for nice clear gas 766389;1406160205;BingoBoingo;pigeons: Wait, you're inhaling it? I was just going to use it as a solvent to clean some stuff... 766390;1406160234;pigeons;oops 766391;1406160239;mike_c;harder to apply to others as gas 766392;1406160299;BingoBoingo;!up CheapBoy 766393;1406160322;benkay;who is this nycbtcpros? 766394;1406160357;pigeons;;;seen nycbtcpros 766395;1406160357;gribble;I have not seen nycbtcpros. 766396;1406160366;pigeons;;;gpg info nyvbtcpros 766397;1406160367;gribble;No such user registered. 766398;1406160373;pigeons;;;gpg info nycbtcpros 766399;1406160373;gribble;User 'nycbtcpros', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1HoUw9FVHXxB1Wm9mbetDE1UhgiQfdgFkk, registered on Sat Jun 14 08:04:58 2014, last authed on Sat Jun 14 08:12:00 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=nycbtcpros . Currently not authenticated. 766400;1406160405;pigeons;hope he has a bitlicense 766401;1406160422;benkay;;;later tell nycbtcpros where's your bitlicense? 766402;1406160423;gribble;The operation succeeded. 766403;1406160561;CheapBoy;Thanks for not biting guys. 766404;1406160585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23978 @ 0.00079579 = 19.0815 BTC [-] {2} 766405;1406160587;CheapBoy;I'm trying to understand if people will be able to "sell" their ethereum pledge before it is released atm. 766406;1406160644;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: Well I doubt the ethereum people are going to make or allow a market for that since, etherium is supposed to be a market 766407;1406160672;pigeons;CheapBoy: i asked that too, was told "no". but try #etherum. actually, i heard they were emailing (!) encrypted wallets (perhaps generated with not-so-random keys via mouse movements!) 766408;1406160686;pigeons;so i suppose you could sell the wallet 766409;1406160719;pigeons;probably they won't email you the wallet for another few bfl-months, but i hae no actual clue about that 766410;1406161132;mike_c;um, selling private keys is not so practical. ask bingo and pankkake :) 766411;1406161206;pigeons;well sell it before it's cracked from its not-so-randomness 766412;1406161218;mike_c;and pinky-swear to delete your copy 766413;1406161219;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Situation has been remedied. Key in question was not sold so much as held by each of us in trust of a higher powah. 766414;1406161227;pigeons;or maybe you have a really random mouse movement 766415;1406161341;CheapBoy;Thanks pidgeons and bingoboingo. 766416;1406161373;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: Well, have you started looking at setting up GPG yet, since that would be necessary to do the trade? 766417;1406161746;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: If you set up GPG and register in the WoT I'll lend you a rating so you can self voice. 766418;1406161989;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12896 @ 0.0007949 = 10.251 BTC [-] 766419;1406162346;BingoBoingo;!up CheapBoy 766420;1406162469;copumpkin;damn! mpoe below .8 766421;1406162472;copumpkin;all is lost 766422;1406162534;pigeons;CheapBoy: ether not usable or transferrable unless ethereum actually comes out one day 766423;1406162546;mike_c;it was under 76 before the break. 766424;1406162764;dub;http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2bjmgb/hi_we_are_the_ethereum_project_team_ask_us/ 766425;1406162764;assbot;Hi, we are the Ethereum Project Team. Ask us anything! : IAmA 766426;1406162803;CheapBoy;+BingoBoingo Thanks, but the links seem to be down 766427;1406162803;CheapBoy;https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/%3E 766428;1406162804;assbot;Alex Cabal 766429;1406162843;mike_c;CheapBoy: you got something odd stuck on the end or that URL. https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/ 766430;1406162844;assbot;Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal 766431;1406162868;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: Here's a basic link for setting up a workspace for drafting GPG text http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/ 766432;1406162870;assbot;PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog 766433;1406162964;BingoBoingo;The BFL auto shop http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/my-e30-m3-nightmare-1601125946/1609714036/+pgeorge 766434;1406162964;assbot;This Shop Trashed My E30 BMW M3 766435;1406162970;CheapBoy;Cool. The gribble bot wrote that link actually. 766436;1406163262;BingoBoingo;Gribble sometimes fucks links 766437;1406163459;pigeons;https://help.riseup.net/security/message-security/openpgp/gpg-best-practices 766438;1406163460;assbot;OpenPGP Best Practices - help.riseup.net 766439;1406163511;pigeons;http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey/ 766440;1406163512;assbot;Creating a new GPG key | Ana's blog 766441;1406163562;CheapBoy;Alrighty I'm getting the GPG running. 766442;1406163587;CheapBoy;But I have to get some sleep, 3am in sweden. 766443;1406163598;CheapBoy;Hope someone can voice me next time 766444;1406163684;BingoBoingo;CheapBoy: I'll look for you and keep throwing voice at you 766445;1406164250;BingoBoingo;!up CheapBoy 766446;1406165363;BingoBoingo;What really fuels Reddit, Professional Wrestling as Trailer Park Shakespeare http://grantland.com/features/wwe-paul-heyman-promo-star-summerslam-brock-lesnar-john-cena/ 766447;1406165364;assbot;The Mouth of the WWE « 766448;1406166156;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: conventional munitions alarm << you mean, ears ringing? or smelled the unmistakeable smell of trotyl? or actual electric alarm? 766449;1406166301;BingoBoingo;I was going to ask, but figured if I had to... 766450;1406166379;*;asciilifeform is actually quite familiar with the construction of such alarms, and their shortcomings. 766451;1406166491;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo and other us-ians probably know that one shouldn't take an old set of shooting earmuffs to the airport, and why... 766452;1406166502;BingoBoingo;lol 766453;1406166629;*;BingoBoingo has never actually been to an aitport 766454;1406166633;BingoBoingo;*airport 766455;1406166638;asciilifeform;seriously? 766456;1406166702;asciilifeform;not once? 766457;1406166713;BingoBoingo;Havent'd had occasion to yet. Imagine my first airport experience will prolly happen in Mexico 766458;1406166741;pigeons;as a kid you didnt go run around them back when it was possible? 766459;1406166760;pigeons;or a teenager bring a girl to sit on the car and "watch the planes" 766460;1406166770;*;asciilifeform not exactly a pith-helmeted hero of world travel; went to an airport for the first time in ~22 yrs. to visit mircea_popescu and other phriends back in april. 766461;1406166805;BingoBoingo;Well, I've been to field's where ultralights operated 766462;1406166829;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you mean small airplanes in general? or specifically 'ultralights' ? 766463;1406166832;pigeons;anyway, you're not missing anything now, everyone's in a hurry and scared 766464;1406166836;BingoBoingo;pigeons: As a teen there were closer places to take girls to "watch the nothing" 766465;1406166861;asciilifeform;because, if i recall, 'ultralights' (IANAL - but if i recall, defined as ~100kg and below) are actually unregulated, and can be flown anywhere in usa, by anyone 766466;1406166878;pigeons;yes that's still the case 766467;1406166879;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Specifically ultralight. Driven past airports for slightly bigger planes. 766468;1406166920;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: A thing that has it's big national get together locally is "powered parachutes" 766469;1406166937;asciilifeform;paraglider? 766470;1406166947;pigeons;i want a jetpack 766471;1406166954;danielpbarron;does anyone know who the owner of the #bitcoin- group is? 766472;1406166970;asciilifeform;jetpack << as in, the one flying machine that is guaranteed to kill you if the engine cuts out? 766473;1406167000;pigeons;oh dont ruin my fun with reality 766474;1406167030;pigeons;itll be powered by ETH so it wont cut off 766475;1406167037;asciilifeform;lol 766476;1406167065;*;asciilifeform old enough to remember when technical magazines had ads in the back for 'build your own helicopter from tractor!' 766477;1406167065;pigeons;ETH is not a security and this is not an attempt to solicit investments from unqualified investors. its a fuel. 766478;1406167075;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: We get those too, but like seriously a powered parachute http://icons.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/n/nlwi/9.jpg 766479;1406167097;BingoBoingo;pigeons: Only a fuel if you like engine knock 766480;1406167144;*;BingoBoingo remembers at boyscout camp one of the older scouts spaying ether into the campfire to discourage us young'uns from spraying pug spray into the fire 766481;1406167161;BingoBoingo;*bug spray 766482;1406167167;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: ether << standard equipment in boyscout kit? 766483;1406167189;pigeons;yeah i remember the scout leaders telling us emphatically not to smoke the local funky weed 766484;1406167199;asciilifeform;can one even buy ether in usa outside of a terrorist catalogue? 766485;1406167201;pigeons;so of course it had the opposite effect 766486;1406167215;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well I was ~6th grade at the time and age ranged up to High School degenerates in the group 766487;1406167232;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Available in "engine starting fluid" 766488;1406167295;pigeons;or if you have a buddy who works in a chemistry lab 766489;1406167322;pigeons;they make real good friends 766490;1406167345;BingoBoingo;The sprayer's family had ~8 or 9 muscle cars in various states on non-function in their yard at the time. 766491;1406167391;BingoBoingo;pigeons: If you have a friend in the chemistry lab there are more interesting things to consider than ether 766492;1406167421;BingoBoingo;Though some amount of ether may be useful as a solvent... TO acieve other things... 766493;1406167534;pigeons;yes of course. by might as well get the ether there too 766494;1406167588;BingoBoingo;And of course the net result of the spritz of ether into the campfire was panic for ~1.5 miles in any direction 766495;1406167829;decimation;idiots in the midwest smoke jimson weed 766496;1406167852;asciilifeform;decimation: the 'zombie cucumber' ? 766497;1406167855;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium 766498;1406167855;assbot;Datura stramonium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 766499;1406167885;decimation;indeed, I always called it jimson weed. nasty stuff, grows up 6 ft tall in a few months 766500;1406167971;BingoBoingo;decimation: In large parts of the forested midwest cannabis, albeit of poor quality has nativized itself 766501;1406167987;decimation;I thought it was always native 766502;1406168058;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/boozy-bear-breaks-into-florida-porch-in-search-of-beer-1609695569 766503;1406168059;assbot;Boozy Bear Breaks Into Florida Porch in Search of Beer and Pia Colada 766504;1406168113;BingoBoingo;decimation: Well, these are hard problems to pin down in the way that some people advance certain species of carp as invasive, when here they are all invasive. 766505;1406168159;decimation;it's racis to call carp invasive 766506;1406168265;BingoBoingo;Carp are like retarded midget whales, fucking filter feeders who readily inbreed (see goldfish) 766507;1406168372;decimation;http://youngcons.com/liberals-passed-a-bill-to-change-this-fishs-name-because-it-is-hurtful-and-offensive/ 766508;1406168374;assbot;Liberals passed a bill to change this fish’s name because it is “hurtful” and “offensive” | Young Conservatives 766509;1406168426;BingoBoingo;People keep forgetting Potassium Chloride was the lethal component of lethal injection cocktails http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-execution-takes-two-hours-to-finish/ 766510;1406168426;assbot;Joseph Rudolph Wood execution in Arizona delayed for appeal - CBS News 766511;1406168453;BingoBoingo;decimation: In the Americas European carp are invasive too 766512;1406168503;BingoBoingo;Fucking water pigeons is what they all are really 766513;1406168517;decimation;lol in the the stereotypical black person likes carp, apparently in the uk the stereotypical eastern european likes carp: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306769/No-Eastern-Europeans-sign-placed-carp-fishing-lake-angry-landowner-claims-stolen-fish.html 766514;1406168517;assbot;'No Eastern Europeans' sign placed at carp fishing lake by angry landowner who claims they have stolen his fish | Mail Online 766515;1406168595;BingoBoingo;Wait, carp are black people food now? I thought it was Wasps that first plagued this continent with them. 766516;1406168637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.13350322 = 4.1386 BTC [-] {2} 766517;1406168697;decimation;https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503083114AAEoxhp 766518;1406168697;assbot;Do blacks really like fried chicken and carp or is that just a stereotype? 766519;1406168698;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.13286904 = 0.9301 BTC [-] {4} 766520;1406168881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.12699999 = 1.143 BTC [-] 766521;1406168891;decimation;everyone knows that eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp from your lake because they were raised as communists: http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21607830-more-people-are-exposed-socialism-worse-they-behave-lying-commies 766522;1406168892;assbot;Economics and ethics: Lying commies | The Economist 766523;1406168966;BingoBoingo;Chicken is old hand but carp is a new one for me. I might have suspected catfish as a stereotype, because like fried chicken everyone loves fried catfish. Carp though have so many pin bones in their filets. Honestly I find Gar a better use of my fishing time than carp. 766524;1406169058;*;asciilifeform eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp from your lake << actually did this. conformed to stereotype. 766525;1406169112;decimation;yeah actually that's a neat experiment 766526;1406169119;decimation;it would be fun to try on your friends 766527;1406169674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.13500001 = 1.485 BTC [+] 766528;1406170122;BingoBoingo;Perks of living near a Hillbilly gathering point http://i.imgur.com/zHwVb6H.jpg 766529;1406170319;decimation;do folks here have a method of scraping complex webpages like banks for .pdf statements? 766530;1406170352;decimation;web 2.0 is so poorly designed that this barely exists, instead of being a first class featue 766531;1406170582;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-halts-sales-sp30-investigating-technical-issues/ 766532;1406170607;decimation;I've tried beautiful soup, it sucked ass. I tried splinter, it sucked ass. refuse to touch phantomjs. 766533;1406172135;Rassah;Hah! Bitcoin Pete's article: "Vitalik Buterin, he of "autism is the same as intelligence" fame" 766534;1406172268;Rassah;I wonder if Bitcoin Pete has met an inteligent person in his life 766535;1406172271;Rassah;iRL 766536;1406172352;BingoBoingo;Well, pete's a jew and there are a lot of smart members of the tribe 766537;1406172443;Rassah;My tribe consists of Tsiolkovsky and Tozoni, so I've been surrounded by extremely intimidating levels of inteligence... 766538;1406172533;Rassah;There aren't a lot of smart people in bitcoinland... I have a feeling Bitcoin Pete isn't one either, but is regurgitating things other smart people are saying in his blogs. A beneficial service I guess 766539;1406172553;TheNewDeal;lol 766540;1406172567;TheNewDeal;he bought a nice bitcoin bet from me 766541;1406172595;BingoBoingo;Well, if pete isn't smart then he's been incredibly lucky. 766542;1406172608;Rassah;That statement of his tells me he either has never met Vitalik in person, or doesn't know what an inteligent person is like 766543;1406172643;Rassah;TheNewDeal: Bitcoin bet? 766544;1406172668;TheNewDeal;he sent me .1 btc, I sold him a position in the bastille day bet 766545;1406172796;Rassah;p.s. I'm not saying their etherium deal is a good one. I don't think investing in ether can in any way give a better return than investing in bitcoin... I don't think vitalik is much of a finance guy, either, so I'm not sure if this "ipo" ca be blamed on him 766546;1406172859;BingoBoingo;Well, if he isn't much of a finance guy... Shouldn't he be outsourcing the expertise? 766547;1406172887;Rassah;I thought he was? Etherium is run by a large group of people, including finance guys 766548;1406172901;Rassah;I think... 766549;1406172935;BingoBoingo;I dunno much other than the picked the worst name for their tokens... 766550;1406172959;BingoBoingo;Ether is just going to feed the flames about Rapey cryptocoiners 766551;1406172981;Rassah;rapey? 766552;1406172990;BingoBoingo;Prolly worse than Doge'y style did... 766553;1406173029;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00079478 = 24.5587 BTC [+] {2} 766554;1406173030;Rassah;Eh, Etherium at least has an application. Doge was just a self-aware joke 766555;1406173152;Rassah;Also, as is most important in any crptocurrency (even moreso than its "features") Etherium has a team of good developers with a specific goals, who want to work to develop it no matter the price. Doge (and arguably most others, possibly incluing Litecoin) does not. 766556;1406173152;BingoBoingo;Pascal had an application... Busses have an application... Pretty sure Doge had an application even if it wasn't a pretty one. 766557;1406173182;decimation;hammers & tulips have an application - neither are good canidates for money 766558;1406173219;BingoBoingo;decimation: I <3 tack hammers 766559;1406173219;Rassah;My rule #1 for investing is invest in the team, not the idea. Awesome idea with morons behind it will go nowhere. For Altcoins, an awesome idea with a single developer behind it will crash and busn as soon as that developer gets bored and goes to do something else 766560;1406173246;Rassah;*busn = burn 766561;1406173270;Rassah;decimation: why do you think Etherium is a candidate for money??? 766562;1406173278;BingoBoingo;Nah, you just need to pick altcoins with better jokes like Altcoin... 766563;1406173298;decimation;umm, people are trading money for it, with the expectation of spending on stuff in the future? 766564;1406173310;BingoBoingo;My current beef with Etherium is that despite all of their protests they are selling equity in a something. 766565;1406173346;Rassah;decimation: Airline companies are spending money on jet fluel futures, with expectation of using it in the future. Doesn't mean jet fuel is money 766566;1406173363;BingoBoingo;Jet fuel actually makes great money. 766567;1406173383;Rassah;BingoBoingo: Protests? When I alked to them, they wanted to sell equity in it, but couldn't due to regulatory crap 766568;1406173404;BingoBoingo;Rassah: But what do the do? They de facto sell equity. 766569;1406173416;Rassah;I'm starting to suspect the things they talk about in private do not match the spin they put out in public... 766570;1406173429;BingoBoingo;Much like BFL sold equity in the company. 766571;1406173448;Rassah;BingoBoingo: but they wanted to sell equity... (Etherium) 766572;1406173460;Rassah;and now they are... so.... 766573;1406173463;BingoBoingo;This "pre-order" "pre-sale" crap constitutes a sale of equity. Period. 766574;1406173472;Rassah;yes. Like they hoped and planned to do 766575;1406173482;Rassah;at least in private... 766576;1406173517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.13006666 = 3.902 BTC [+] {2} 766577;1406173523;BingoBoingo;If you don't have anything to deliver and you sell "whatevers" the "whatevers" you bought constitute equity in the concern 766578;1406173558;BingoBoingo;Among the other things Sonny V could go back to jail for equities fraud is a leading candidate. 766579;1406173618;Rassah;In summary, they had an idea they thought was awesome, they wanted to spend a year working on this awesome idea of theirs, without having to worry about jobs or income, so they marketed their idea to bitcoiners who like dumping money into altcoins... Sounds like they weren't dumb at all about this :) 766580;1406173626;Rassah;Though not sure about the ethics of this... 766581;1406173635;decimation;the label "money" isn't relevant - jet fuel is eminently salable, whereas the salability of ethereum is extremely dubious - and that's the property I was interested in specifying with the word "money" 766582;1406173657;BingoBoingo;Well, their biggest concern should be locating themselves in friendly jurisdictions that don't extradite. 766583;1406173657;TheNewDeal;so true 766584;1406173659;Rassah;decimation: What do you think about Namecoin? 766585;1406173687;decimation;it's not bitcoin 766586;1406173701;BingoBoingo;Namecoin is jet fuel sort of great, splendid utility, but externalities neuter it as a value. 766587;1406173723;BingoBoingo;The merged mining that saved namecoin now cripples it. 766588;1406173743;TheNewDeal;why so? 766589;1406173761;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 533 @ 0.00293008 = 1.5617 BTC [+] {6} 766590;1406173778;Rassah;decimation: K... Point is, regardless of what ether is ultimately worth, if they do come up with a system that's as usable as they hope it will be, you could think of ether is jet fuel needed to run it. It won't be money, and, privately, the ether guys don't seem to want etherium to be money either. Just coins you plunk into the system to keep it rnning 766591;1406173816;Rassah;BingoBoingo: I'm interested too. How so? 766592;1406173818;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Because what do the Big BTC pools that merge namecoin do? Almost uniformly they dump it. Now... there's enough NMC out there that a sufficiently well monetized party could stabilize the market, but doing so would be expensive and bloody 766593;1406173856;TheNewDeal;seems relatively stable as of late? 766594;1406173866;BingoBoingo;Rassah: Being a plus that can be mined on top of BTC with little opportunity cost is a handicap. 766595;1406173876;Rassah;Why do you need to stabilize Namecoin? It's not money :/ 766596;1406173903;TheNewDeal;seems like a good distribution model 766597;1406173923;Rassah;If the demand for .bit domain names, addresses, and identities goes up, demand for namecoin will go up. Right now, it just says that no one realy uses .bit 766598;1406173957;BingoBoingo;^ Rassah Without stability .bit just lacks appeal. 766599;1406173981;Rassah;BingoBoingo: My .bit domains are perfectly stable and functional 766600;1406173990;BingoBoingo;Then there's the tendency of NMC miners to reject tx's because it's just their free bonus coin with purchase of BTC mining 766601;1406174015;Rassah;I don't keep NMC as mone, stre of value, or a transaction mechanism. I keep it as "a cost to register and renew a domain name" 766602;1406174024;TheNewDeal;don't btc miners do that too? 766603;1406174035;Rassah;*stre = store 766604;1406174056;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Few BTC miners find mining empty blocks an economically optimal choice. 766605;1406174068;BingoBoingo;Anymore 766606;1406174068;Rassah;Look at NMC as a fluctuating cost at a domain registry, not as an alt coin. 766607;1406174076;TheNewDeal;well I didn't say empty. You said reject tx's 766608;1406174098;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Rejected tx's happen on a scale. 766609;1406174245;Rassah;Any of you guys ever go to conferences? 766610;1406174278;TheNewDeal;timiosara!?! 766611;1406174320;TheNewDeal;somebody just went to that bitcoin hippy festival called porcine or something 766612;1406174391;BingoBoingo;So, last friday I'm at the bar and my friends point out a dude with a Bitcoin T-shirt. Suggest I start a conversation. I point out that in the best case they are a stranger, and in the worst case they are some petty scammer I blogged about. 766613;1406174401;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: That was danielpbarron 766614;1406174429;TheNewDeal;ahh 766615;1406174449;danielpbarron;TheNewDeal, ya, I did 766616;1406174467;TheNewDeal;hahaha 766617;1406174479;BingoBoingo;I tend to treat people in Bitcoin T-shirts the same way drug dealers treat people wearing I <3 crack T-shirts 766618;1406174493;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19253 @ 0.00079395 = 15.2859 BTC [-] 766619;1406174568;Rassah;Potential customers? 766620;1406174574;Rassah;Or undercover cops 766621;1406174651;BingoBoingo;Well, dude and his friends obviously smelled of drugs 766622;1406174675;TheNewDeal;i would hope so 766623;1406174755;TheNewDeal;the skunky kind? 766624;1406174993;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Smelled like the more solid, you're going to get addicted kind 766625;1406174997;BingoBoingo;!up Duffer1 766626;1406175020;BingoBoingo;I wonder if the 5-0 has an eu de meth the can spray on to be more convincing undercover 766627;1406175031;TheNewDeal;lol 766628;1406175133;Duffer1;i'm so proud of my cable management 766629;1406175143;Duffer1;i'll post pics later 766630;1406175564;dub;BingoBoingo: not afaik, they go for the real deal 766631;1406175753;dub;got a buddy who was basically high 24/7 on the job 766632;1406176484;Rassah;dub: Lots of suiters working at Disney World are like that 766633;1406176594;BingoBoingo;!up HANDSofSTEEL 766634;1406176599;BingoBoingo;!up sqsqsqsqsq 766635;1406176614;BingoBoingo;Welcome HANDSofSTEEL and sqsqsqsqsq 766636;1406176665;HANDSofSTEEL;thanks for the warm welcome 766637;1406176689;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00079481 = 7.1533 BTC [+] 766638;1406176694;dub;suiters? 766639;1406176715;Rassah;I used to work at Disney World. People who wore suits often smoked weed, dropped acid, etc, because they could always blame the consequences on head exhaustion 766640;1406176739;Rassah;sorry, term is "fur suit," but I guess technicaly costumes 766641;1406176747;dub;Lawyers are teh biggest pottheads in my experience 766642;1406176749;Rassah;old habits die hard XD 766643;1406176753;dub;but we were talking about cops 766644;1406176763;Rassah;I thought lawyers did coke, no pot? 766645;1406176850;BingoBoingo;HANDSofSTEEL: Welcome here 766646;1406176857;dub;I've had pleny of jobs where weed was standard issue equipment 766647;1406176873;HANDSofSTEEL;;) 766648;1406177067;BingoBoingo;HANDSofSTEEL: What brings you to these parts? 766649;1406177100;HANDSofSTEEL;was reading up on ethereum actually is what brought me here 766650;1406177123;HANDSofSTEEL;wanted to see what the overall vibe was like but i see there are logs online to look at 766651;1406177152;kakobrekla;!s ethereum 766652;1406177152;assbot;117 results for 'ethereum' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ethereum 766653;1406177155;kakobrekla;enjoy. 766654;1406177176;BingoBoingo;HANDSofSTEEL: Yeah, the log are here and as kakobrekla Has blessed you with, search 766655;1406177187;HANDSofSTEEL;=) 766656;1406177294;kakobrekla;i guess it would be fair to note that todays mentions are not parsed in search yet. 766657;1406177295;BingoBoingo;HANDSofSTEEL: If you really want to go long on ethereum, mircea_popescu wants to go short. I'd advise reading up on ethereum criticism before doing anything rash though. 766658;1406177305;Duffer1;HANDSofSTEEL http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ 766659;1406177307;assbot;A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | When Bitcoin Met Pete 766660;1406177334;HANDSofSTEEL;thats what brought me here 766661;1406177337;HANDSofSTEEL;nice find 766662;1406177338;dub;Rassah: sorry, yes, lawyers == anything goes 766663;1406177363;Duffer1;etherum isn't going to end well 766664;1406177401;HANDSofSTEEL;what i wonder is if it will start well 766665;1406177405;dub;I expect that it will, at least, not start well 766666;1406177413;HANDSofSTEEL;lol 766667;1406177422;Duffer1;start well for who is the question 766668;1406177433;HANDSofSTEEL;good point 766669;1406177439;HANDSofSTEEL;might be good to get on both sides 766670;1406177445;Duffer1;haven't they already received several thousand perfectly healthy btc? 766671;1406177458;HANDSofSTEEL;the less the better 766672;1406177463;sqsqsqsqsq;allegedly 766673;1406177482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-] 766674;1406177510;HANDSofSTEEL;well its catch 22, the more on initial, the worse the entry price is, but there is increased interest 766675;1406177524;HANDSofSTEEL;if for some reason they stop selling them now 766676;1406177538;HANDSofSTEEL;then popularity explodes after offering but before genesis 766677;1406177546;HANDSofSTEEL;then that will be a good start for early investors 766678;1406177603;sqsqsqsqsq;you like it, the pump and dump? 766679;1406177626;HANDSofSTEEL;i actually think the technology is awesome is what piques my interest 766680;1406177670;HANDSofSTEEL;but yes there are alterior motives 766681;1406177700;mircea_popescu;ohai 766682;1406177720;mircea_popescu;it's usually spelled "ulterior" 766683;1406177722;Duffer1;http://imgur.com/zb5gXY9 front 766684;1406177722;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 766685;1406177731;Duffer1;http://imgur.com/Oq9Q2U6 back 766686;1406177732;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 766687;1406177771;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 this s not nearly nsfw enough for here 766688;1406177780;asciilifeform;Duffer1: what is remarkable in these photos ? 766689;1406177798;Duffer1;the cable management! 766690;1406177802;Duffer1;pff haters :( 766691;1406177942;HANDSofSTEEL;thanks for the correction 766692;1406177951;cazalla;Duffer1, i know that feel, ocd cable management 766693;1406178020;Duffer1;ya feels good having it all sorted 766694;1406178093;BingoBoingo;HANDSofSTEEL: If you want to take both sides, BitBet is probably the best tool for that 766695;1406178179;cazalla;he'll be taking it in the ass, that's about it 766696;1406178214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.132 = 0.66 BTC [+] 766697;1406178275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.133 = 0.665 BTC [+] 766698;1406178306;HANDSofSTEEL;bitbet is a cool site 766699;1406178376;mircea_popescu;copumpkin: damn! mpoe below .8 << im pretty sure it was her eb4 766700;1406178460;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: 766701;1406178461;mircea_popescu;mircea_popescu: conventional munitions alarm << you mean, ears ringing? or smelled the unmistakeable smell of trotyl? or actual electric alarm? << no there;s an actual alarm. 766702;1406178487;mircea_popescu;tnt/trotyl/dynamite/etc have a very specific signatur 766703;1406178516;Rassah;By the way, does anyone have a better (lolsier) reason for why bitcoin will never work than "Bitcoin is deflationary, and will keep going up in price as people hoard it, until it becomes wortless?" 766704;1406178534;mircea_popescu;Rassah bitcoin will work. 766705;1406178601;Rassah;mircea_popescu: ??? I mean stupider than the claim I said 766706;1406178611;nubbins`;bitcoin is deflationary? 766707;1406178621;Rassah;That's the most entertainingly dumb thing I have heard. I wonder if anyone else has any others 766708;1406178623;mircea_popescu;derpflartionary amirite 766709;1406178648;Rassah;mircea_popescu: Wait, why are you telling me that bitcoin will work?.......... 766710;1406178665;mircea_popescu;cuz you asked :D 766711;1406178673;dub;that aint cable management 766712;1406178685;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if your alarm picks up TATP, sell it to the americans, they'll cream their pants 766713;1406178692;mircea_popescu;btw, let the permanent rtecord reflect that i am less drunken than mthreat 766714;1406178694;mircea_popescu;i can type 766715;1406178702;mthreat;false 766716;1406178710;mthreat;ok gnite 766717;1406178720;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it's shockwave based 766718;1406178738;mthreat; rtecord << 766719;1406178740;mircea_popescu;mthreat you gettting blown too ? 766720;1406178743;BingoBoingo;Huh, I'm only running a .21 according to this machine 766721;1406178746;asciilifeform;lol! 766722;1406178754;Duffer1;dub it's as far as i was willing to go, not about to rebraid each wire lol 766723;1406178775;Rassah;mircea_popescu: It sounded like you doubted my faith in bitcoin. Frankly I am offended. The statement I made was lolzy and derpy beause it is essentially saying that bitcoin will become so valuable that it will be valueless, which is a logical contradiction, and yet I have heard that statement countless times over the years 766724;1406178786;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lulz all you want! 766725;1406178800;mircea_popescu;Rassah lol simmer. 766726;1406178802;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: shockwave << what's the use if the charge is already set off and the crater smoking ? 766727;1406178812;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know they missed. 766728;1406178860;asciilifeform;'q: what to do if a shell lands in your trench? a: jump twenty meters and scatter yourself around!' - ww1, british. 766729;1406178924;*;dub fails to quickly find pics of loomed 7*48 port fibre blades and gives up 766730;1406178945;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know making a hit is not as trivial as it sounds. 766731;1406179018;mircea_popescu;decimation: I thought it was always native << you were right, it was. 766732;1406179019;*;asciilifeform is familiar with history, where the briefcase is always behind one cement column too far, the mine is always three cars away, etc. 766733;1406179055;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sad fact of life. 766734;1406179073;*;asciilifeform still didn't think this required electronics. if you're in range, ear/nose ought to work 766735;1406179097;asciilifeform;although i can think of one case 766736;1406179126;mircea_popescu;decimation: everyone knows that eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp << i can attest, carp is huge in eeu 766737;1406179139;mircea_popescu;and in romanian, it's called crap 766738;1406179142;asciilifeform;(dr. evil plants mine on street xxx, you left xxx ahead of schedule, mine blows. locals admit nothing, say 'gas leak.' wave velocity sensor on your desk tells truth.) 766739;1406179158;dub;i've a perverse need to test newphones waterproofyness 766740;1406179204;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform generally such detectors are valuable to embarass. 766741;1406179249;asciilifeform;incidentally, for a few years now one can buy similar apparatus for triangulating small arms fire. you can actually see these permanently installed in certain u.s. cities. 766742;1406179264;mircea_popescu;decimation: web 2.0 is so poorly designed that this barely exists, instead of being a first class featue << muff said. 766743;1406179391;mircea_popescu;Rassah: I thought he was? Etherium is run by a large group of people, including finance guys << none of which in the wot ? catperson, puhlease. 766744;1406179443;Rassah;mircea_popescu: Most people I know are not in the wot. Sorry, but there is a whole separate "wot" out there that's not quite as... digital... 766745;1406179461;mircea_popescu;of people that will either fail or be raped or both., 766746;1406179468;mircea_popescu;not in the wot = no good. period. 766747;1406179611;mircea_popescu;think of it as "not being in the communist party" in moscow cca 1952. 766748;1406179618;mircea_popescu;you ARE goign to siberia. on foot. 766749;1406179632;mircea_popescu;to dig ditches. 766750;1406179674;Rassah;like my great grandmother and many other relatives? 766751;1406179712;mircea_popescu;sure. 766752;1406179718;Rassah;The other "wot" is people who actually know each other in person, and can vouch for each other. It's WOT, witout a digital record 766753;1406179745;mircea_popescu;you're on the thin ice of presumption. what makes you think people on the wot don';t kn ow each other in person ? 766754;1406179753;Rassah;and it's just as reliable (see pirate@40) whereby some people can be nice and known and trusted, and turn out to be total douchebags 766755;1406179780;Rassah;There are a lot of people in wot that have never met in person 766756;1406179782;mircea_popescu;perhaps you'd be well served by reading the discussion on the topic. the wot dun work as you may imagine it do\es. 766757;1406179824;mircea_popescu;but anyway, time for me to get my toes suckled. tomorro. 766758;1406179848;Rassah;I'll go get my dick sucked instead. See ya! 766759;1406179983;dub;a number of 'trusted' fold in and out of the wot met pirate if you'll recall 766760;1406183283;fluffypony;Rassah: you are spot on, in a sense - the WoT is a digital representation of the real life business networks that are often found amongst the Freemasons, the Jews, or even among an old boy's club for a particular school 766761;1406183294;fluffypony;the difference is that it's completely all-encompasing and global in its reach 766762;1406183298;fluffypony;so its incomparable 766763;1406183331;Rassah;The people in my real life WoT are all-encompasng and global too 766764;1406183368;Rassah;Except I actually know them, who they are, what they do, what kind of a person they are, etc much more than a nick on an IRC chat 766765;1406183506;Rassah;Mainly because taking to someone on IRC does't give you nearly as much information as talking to them IRL, over beers, while watching their nonverbal cues and cmmunication 766766;1406183511;Rassah;*talking 766767;1406183720;cazalla;so much for that blow job? 766768;1406183755;fluffypony;hah hah 766769;1406183826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00079416 = 11.3168 BTC [-] {2} 766770;1406183831;dub;wot provides more behavioural references 766771;1406183842;dub;more than 766772;1406184802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7434 @ 0.00079481 = 5.9086 BTC [+] 766773;1406184891;BingoBoingo;%t 766774;1406184893;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 238 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 115k High: 239 Low: 210 VWAP: 222 766775;1406185339;danielpbarron;02:28:52 <+Rassah> The people in my real life WoT .. << get them in the gribble WoT 766776;1406185781;fluffypony;;;tslb 766777;1406185786;fluffypony;!tslb 766778;1406185788;gribble;Time since last block: 31 minutes and 53 seconds 766779;1406185791;fluffypony;wtf 766780;1406185797;fluffypony;every time I need a transfer to move quickly this happens 766781;1406185843;xmj;tell me about it 766782;1406185855;xmj;everytime i need something done quickly i'm blocked by bureaucracy. 766783;1406185964;benkay; mike_c: Situation has been remedied. Key in question was not sold so much as held by each of us in trust of a higher powah. // this is the highest endorsement of the wot i've yet seen 766784;1406185979;benkay;strongest, sorry, i'm the high one 766785;1406185982;benkay;oscon is in town 766786;1406185991;benkay;nobody escapes the open drinquisition 766787;1406187730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33960 @ 0.00079417 = 26.97 BTC [-] {2} 766788;1406188316;pankkake;/r/buttcoin can't deal with bitcoin opinions that are not the standard /r/bitcoin crap; they expect to fill their bingo cards and it doesn't work 766789;1406188341;pankkake;about the tslb: anyone tried greenaddress? I've only read the faq, but it seems pretty smart 766790;1406188362;pankkake;certainly better that an inputs.io style solution 766791;1406189316;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16727 @ 0.00079394 = 13.2802 BTC [-] {2} 766792;1406190353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.13408332 = 1.609 BTC [+] {3} 766793;1406190841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25790 @ 0.0007936 = 20.4669 BTC [-] {3} 766794;1406191390;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27550 @ 0.0007928 = 21.8416 BTC [-] 766795;1406194074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35440 @ 0.00080041 = 28.3665 BTC [+] 766796;1406194391;pankkake;http://bitcoinstudent.tumblr.com/post/92669241028/results-of-a-3-000-person-bitcoin-survey (keep in mind it's a survey of redditors) 766797;1406194391;assbot;Bitcoin Student Results of a 3,000+ person Bitcoin survey 766798;1406194477;jurov;honestly i don't think adding 100 of us would skew the results much 766799;1406195233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 2000 @ 0.00084995 = 1.6999 BTC [-] 766800;1406196837;jurov;hue http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bh2sr/mtgox_creditor_meeting_handout/cj5e9ue 766801;1406196837;assbot;trixisowned comments on mtgox creditor meeting handout 766802;1406196852;jurov;!up Poffertje 766803;1406196862;jurov;!up windjc 766804;1406196870;jurov;!up trixisowned 766805;1406196872;trixisowned;;) 766806;1406196913;jurov;!up punkman 766807;1406196949;trixisowned;https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 766808;1406196950;assbot;Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 766809;1406196952;trixisowned;daily lol 766810;1406196976;jurov;what is it? 766811;1406196994;trixisowned;etherium proof of burn 766812;1406196995;trixisowned;:P 766813;1406196997;trixisowned;lol proof of burn 766814;1406197003;trixisowned;thats what im calling it at this point 766815;1406197106;trixisowned;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLjlOw3TVc8&feature=player_detailpage#t=79 766816;1406197106;assbot;An exclusive peek into the world's biggest Bitcoin exchange - YouTube 766817;1406197273;jurov;;;rate trixisowned 1 b-a voice. and luke said he's a troll. 766818;1406197274;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user trixisowned has been recorded. 766819;1406197285;trixisowned;luke is a dumbass 766820;1406197285;jurov;;D 766821;1406197286;trixisowned;:/ 766822;1406197302;trixisowned;i just wanted him to please point out what his share algorithm does on eligius 766823;1406197304;trixisowned;and he was like 766824;1406197323;jurov;he got you a voice here :D 766825;1406197348;trixisowned;"oh i havent even looked at the code for CBBSRB" 766826;1406197359;trixisowned;"I dont even know what that does" 766827;1406197450;jurov;and you looked into it? 766828;1406197455;jurov;found any phun? 766829;1406198184;pankkake;;;rate trixisowned 1 troll 766830;1406198185;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user trixisowned has been recorded. 766831;1406198691;trixisowned;jurov CBBSRB was created to hide Luke-Jr and his crew taking from each block found by their pool 766832;1406198719;fluffypony;who here gets the Bitcoin BullBear report? 766833;1406198829;trixisowned;CBBSRB just made it so the blocks looked like they were paying out full blocks on each block payout 766834;1406198867;trixisowned;when in reality they just added their address to the list of miners, and take a percentage of each block as if they were actually hashing 766835;1406198875;trixisowned;its why you see odd payouts on eligius 766836;1406198881;trixisowned;that dont match other pools 766837;1406198887;trixisowned;when you have 5TH+ 766838;1406199007;ThickAsThieves;<+Rassah> Also, as is most important in any crptocurrency (even moreso than its "features") Etherium has a team of good developers with a specific goals, who want to work to develop it no matter the price. /// til they get bored 766839;1406199023;fluffypony;oh I missed all of that 766840;1406199026;fluffypony;he's punting Etherium? 766841;1406199027;fluffypony;lol. 766842;1406199161;ThickAsThieves;<+BingoBoingo> My current beef with Etherium is that despite all of their protests they are selling equity in a something. /// worse, they are selling a painting of a duck to dogs, they don't yet realize it can't fly or quack, but it at least fills their bellies 766843;1406199274;ThickAsThieves;<+Rassah> In summary, they had an idea they thought was awesome, they wanted to spend a year working on this awesome idea of theirs, without having to worry about jobs or income, so they marketed their idea to bitcoiners who like dumping money into altcoins... Sounds like they weren't dumb at all about this :) //// So, they are about equal to every other altcoin with dream, where's 766844;1406199274;ThickAsThieves;the smarts? 766845;1406199324;ThickAsThieves;<+Rassah> decimation: ... you could think of ether is jet fuel needed to run it. /// gtfo 766846;1406199479;fluffypony;I'm sure I heard someone say that Etherium is "blockchain 3.0 technology" the other day, I wanted to stab them in the face 766847;1406199640;ThickAsThieves;<+BingoBoingo> HANDSofSTEEL: If you want to take both sides, BitBet is probably the best tool for that --- good point, need ETH BitBet, that's how we can all short the mofo 766848;1406199820;pankkake;the issue is that there's no exchange yet, obviously 766849;1406199826;pankkake;so how can you spec the bet? 766850;1406199951;ThickAsThieves;<+dub> i've a perverse need to test newphones waterproofyness /// maybe you should go to running of the bulls 766851;1406200443;ThickAsThieves;<+trixisowned> https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 //// it;s rounding off, SELL! 766852;1406200444;assbot;Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 766853;1406200449;dub;no thx 766854;1406200507;ThickAsThieves;<+fluffypony> who here gets the Bitcoin BullBear report? /// is it good? 766855;1406200536;trixisowned;http://www.btc798.com/article-5018-1.html 766856;1406200539;assbot;|_ 766857;1406200539;*;trixisowned cough 766858;1406200544;trixisowned;oops 766859;1406200548;trixisowned;wrong chat lol 766860;1406200556;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: yeah not bad, some of it is above my pay grade and I don't quite grok the nuances, but it's still interesting 766861;1406200571;fluffypony;this week they stopped their LTC analysis entirely (they will do ocassional bits of LTC analysis if necessary) 766862;1406200583;dub;a friend broke his femure in pamplona (not running the bulls, trying to scale balconies the night before), hospitals there are scary 766863;1406200585;fluffypony;and instead did an analysis of XMR on the back of yesterday's Poloniex announcement 766864;1406200605;ThickAsThieves;trixisowned fire currency? 766865;1406200635;ThickAsThieves;announcement? 766866;1406200680;dub;these guys ended up in his ward http://zakireza.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/running-of-the-bulls/michael-lenahan-laurence-lenahan/ 766867;1406200681;assbot;Michael Lenahan, Laurence Lenahan | Zaki's Blog 766868;1406200744;ThickAsThieves;ass to ass! 766869;1406200748;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: https://www.poloniex.com/press-releases/2014.07.23-Poloniex-Welcomes-New-Monero-XMR-Markets 766870;1406200748;assbot;Poloniex Welcomes New Monero (XMR) Markets 766871;1406200771;ThickAsThieves;oic pumping like champs 766872;1406202658;ThickAsThieves;a new plane is missing 766873;1406202664;ThickAsThieves;http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/world/africa/air-algerie-flight/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 766874;1406202665;assbot;Air Algerie plane with 116 on board falls off radar - CNN.com 766875;1406202788;ThickAsThieves;http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/19/news/china-bitcoin-hack/ 766876;1406202788;assbot;China's central bank hacked - Dec. 19, 2013 766877;1406202795;ThickAsThieves;"Yesterday, we had to stop accepting deposits into the exchange, because our payment processor had essentially cut us off from new deposits," BTC China CEO Bobby Lee told CNN. 766878;1406202818;ThickAsThieves;ddos is a hack now 766879;1406202847;ThickAsThieves;(old news) 766880;1406202858;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12826 @ 0.00080241 = 10.2917 BTC [+] 766881;1406203641;ThickAsThieves;cheapcoinz! 766882;1406203645;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 766883;1406203646;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.0, Best ask: 605.56, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 605.0, 24 hour volume: 6633.77534253, 24 hour low: 603.45, 24 hour high: 623.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.38692407 766884;1406203746;Pierre_Rochard;ThickAsThieves: huh. Not seeing any news 766885;1406203855;fluffypony;Pierre_Rochard: the market rarely shifts on the back of news 766886;1406203888;fluffypony;it's driven by supply and demand and other market forces (which can include news or market manipulation) 766887;1406203960;Pierre_Rochard;fluffypony: agreed, I look for news because that can hint at the amplitude of the shift 766888;1406203998;fluffypony;maybe people are pissed that Draper didn't reveal the USMS auction price on the Colbert Report yesterday 766889;1406203998;ThickAsThieves;news is usually just an excuse for market to do what wanted to anyway 766890;1406204016;ThickAsThieves;i charted this fall like a champ 766891;1406204023;BigBitz;news is secondary. 766892;1406204030;BigBitz;Bitcoin markets don't revolve around news. 766893;1406204032;BigBitz;They don't care. 766894;1406204040;fluffypony;^^ 766895;1406204084;BigBitz;It could be something amazing and wonderful like US Scrap USD for BTC and it would tank. 766896;1406204084;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 766897;1406204099;BigBitz;Then the next day it would be China bans Bitcoin (again) and it would rallllleeeeyyyythefuckmoade. 766898;1406204139;Pierre_Rochard;BigBitz: Ok, in the future I will qualify it as “huh. Not seeing any news that could be having a secondary effect because while the price doesn’t revolve around the news, this could be one of the rare news-driven price shifts”. That way there won’t be any confusion. 766899;1406204155;dub;ThickAsThieves: I thought you called a break up 766900;1406204179;ThickAsThieves;after this fall, yes 766901;1406204198;BigBitz;where do we go TAT? 766902;1406204202;BigBitz;$500? $440? 766903;1406204203;ThickAsThieves;http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-bitstamp-preparing-for-700/ 766904;1406204205;assbot;BTCUSD Update (Bitstamp) Preparing for $700? 766905;1406204211;ThickAsThieves;i have a newer chart ill share in a sec 766906;1406204217;ThickAsThieves;made afte rthat one 766907;1406204275;BigBitz;You have 634 for today :( 766908;1406204280;ThickAsThieves;http://i.imgur.com/YqeEc6N.jpg 766909;1406204292;ThickAsThieves;you dont trade by the date 766910;1406204296;ThickAsThieves;you trade by the price 766911;1406204306;BigBitz;I making poking fun :P 766912;1406204325;BigBitz;errr... I was poking fun. 766913;1406204328;ThickAsThieves;hehe 766914;1406204329;dub;did you fuck that chart up? 766915;1406204341;ThickAsThieves;use the imgur one 766916;1406204346;ThickAsThieves;it's much better 766917;1406204397;ThickAsThieves;of course i could still be wrong 766918;1406204401;ThickAsThieves;could fall to 560 766919;1406204404;dub;less cropping would be useful 766920;1406204475;ThickAsThieves;dub here's the full interactive one then https://www.tradingview.com/e/6HNfLOlQ/ 766921;1406204476;assbot;BTCUSD: BTCUSD Bitstamp longterm - TradingView 766922;1406204543;ThickAsThieves;it's a bull pennant with a fractal inside 766923;1406204558;ThickAsThieves;white line / black line 766924;1406208300;bitcoinpete;howdy 766925;1406208399;bitcoinpete;* BingoBoingo has never actually been to an airport << huh… ain't that the darndest thing 766926;1406208501;bitcoinpete;Spoondoolies Halts Sales of SP30, Investigating Technical Issues << that might explain the mysterious 30k TH that suddenly came and went 766927;1406208593;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00080113 = 19.3873 BTC [-] 766928;1406208744;bitcoinpete;Rassah: I wonder if Bitcoin Pete has met an inteligent person in his life << if i had, would that make ethereum suck less? 766929;1406208750;kakobrekla;;;bc,convert eur 766930;1406208751;gribble;1 BTC = 594.99 USD = 441.839574 eur 766931;1406208766;kakobrekla;is this dogecoin quote ? 766932;1406208818;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: Well, pete's a jew and there are a lot of smart members of the tribe << einstein, maimonides, spinoza, natalie portman, etc. 766933;1406208831;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: too many decimals? 766934;1406208926;kakobrekla;soon, there will only be decimals! 766935;1406208926;bitcoinpete;Rassah: There aren't a lot of smart people in bitcoinland... I have a feeling Bitcoin Pete isn't one either, but is regurgitating things other smart people are saying in his blogs. A beneficial service I guess << hooray for stupid yet useful jooz! 766936;1406208945;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: then we'll be kings! 766937;1406208999;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: Well, if pete isn't smart then he's been incredibly lucky. << and crafty! but smart and lucky need not be mutually exclusive. 766938;1406209037;pankkake;natalie portman is a jew? I always knew something was off with her 766939;1406209051;cazalla;c'mon, it's hollywood afterall 766940;1406209052;pankkake;BingoBoingo, fear of flying? :p 766941;1406209249;bitcoinpete;pankkake: natalie, scarlett johansson, mila kunis, elizabeth banks (convert), isla fisher (convert), gwenyth paltrow, and neve campbell 766942;1406209256;bitcoinpete;so my research tells me 766943;1406209266;fluffypony;your fro-search, you mean 766944;1406209269;pankkake;wait, hollywood converts actresses to jews?! 766945;1406209275;fluffypony;it's like a Jew-dar on your head 766946;1406209278;bitcoinpete;well… ya 766947;1406209281;pankkake;funny how I don't like any of those 766948;1406209287;pankkake;maybe I'm an antisemite after all! 766949;1406209314;pankkake;my jewdar is broken, despite being French 766950;1406209317;cazalla;you may as well write a list of who isn't jewish, it'll be shorter 766951;1406209321;bitcoinpete;pankkake: but you're pro-croissant! 766952;1406209332;pankkake;eheh 766953;1406209338;pigeons;natilie portman is smart? 766954;1406209353;bitcoinpete;;;google natalie portman 766955;1406209354;gribble;Natalie Portman . com | The #1 fansite for Natalie Portman: ; Natalie Portman - IMDb: ; Natalie Portman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 766956;1406209361;bitcoinpete;went to harvard iirc 766957;1406209380;bitcoinpete;which makes her more soviet, i suppose 766958;1406209429;bitcoinpete;Rassah: That statement of his tells me he either has never met Vitalik in person, or doesn't know what an inteligent person is like << met the dude briefly at toronto expo. so what? 766959;1406209444;bitcoinpete;vitalik's actions say it all 766960;1406209466;bitcoinpete;kid's being played like a flute by a bunch of dopey tards 766961;1406209476;cazalla;he's related to marc andresen right? 766962;1406209479;pankkake;why would all scammers be dumb? 766963;1406209484;cazalla;on account of their heads and shit 766964;1406209501;bitcoinpete;his intentions seem innocent enough and i'm sure he's "having fun" but ethereum is still a fucking joke 766965;1406209513;bitcoinpete;cazalla: same barber 766966;1406209532;fluffypony;but...but...isn't it Blockchain 3.0 technology? 766967;1406209538;fluffypony;meanwhile we haven't even gotten to 1.0 yet 766968;1406209566;pigeons;vitalik sells lots of snake oil besides etherum: emulated quantum computer that runs faster than its von neuman host; proof of stake; "trustless" distributed fiat (schellingcoin); 766969;1406209576;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: Pascal had an application... Busses have an application... Pretty sure Doge had an application even if it wasn't a pretty one << i like this 766970;1406209602;pigeons;those are all cool ideas, but pretending they actually work and can be used is pretty much deceptive 766971;1406209645;pankkake;well yes, he wants to have fun at others expense 766972;1406209647;kakobrekla;church going people. 766973;1406209678;ThickAsThieves;guys I have this problem that only a smart contract can solve! 766974;1406209682;ThickAsThieves;no one said ever 766975;1406209686;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: show those derps a 5000 BTC bounty for making 1.0 work and then we might be talking 766976;1406209708;pigeons;now you have 2 problems 766977;1406209739;bitcoinpete;pigeons: fucking 21 yo kid thinks he can invent rounder wheel 766978;1406209750;bitcoinpete;;;rated BingoBoingo 766979;1406209751;gribble;You rated user BingoBoingo on Thu May 22 17:57:19 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: spinozan, blogger. 766980;1406209765;bitcoinpete;eh ok 766981;1406209776;pigeons;maybe he can, but build it before you sell it to me 766982;1406209816;bitcoinpete;myeah 766983;1406209859;bitcoinpete;well my blog post on the matter was fairly widely read. 766984;1406209887;bitcoinpete;at least enough to get a phone call from ethereum fearless leader anthony di iorio 766985;1406209894;bitcoinpete;he left a stern voicemail 766986;1406209904;fluffypony;hah ha 766987;1406209906;fluffypony;saying what? 766988;1406209918;bitcoinpete;when he remembers where his pgp keys went, i'll talk to him 766989;1406209944;pankkake;what the fuck? 766990;1406209977;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: saying "hi peter. this is anthony di iorio. i was just looking at that blog post. call me back." 766991;1406209999;fluffypony;rude 766992;1406210007;pankkake;who do those people think they are 766993;1406210014;pigeons;wow really they are already trying to damage control the 1% of the press they get that isn't positive? and from a bitcoinpete (no offense lol) blog post? 766994;1406210066;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: brusque for sure 766995;1406210082;bitcoinpete;pigeons: MOAR POSEETEEV NOOZ! 766996;1406210149;bitcoinpete;pankkake: i've met anthony irl twice and we've talked on the phone before. but it's been... quite a while 766997;1406210161;bitcoinpete;he sold me some coins otc too 766998;1406210196;bitcoinpete;bout a year ago iirc 766999;1406210214;bitcoinpete;still. pgp or gtfo 767000;1406210232;bitcoinpete;or hell, irc 767001;1406210275;bitcoinpete;Rassah: I'm starting to suspect the things they talk about in private do not match the spin they put out in public... << trust that gut 767002;1406210314;pankkake;yeah he's not on #bitcoin-conspiracy 767003;1406210330;ThickAsThieves;aww ethereum didnt call me tho 767004;1406210337;ThickAsThieves;so jelly 767005;1406210412;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: where's your super scandalous blog post? 767006;1406210418;bitcoinpete;that's what i thought ;) 767007;1406210497;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: I tend to treat people in Bitcoin T-shirts the same way drug dealers treat people wearing I <3 crack T-shirts << lol ! 767008;1406210694;ThickAsThieves;i just leave supertrolly comments on their PR instead 767009;1406210853;mike_c;i like how therealaltcoin.org has a shopping cart button in the header :) 767010;1406210860;mike_c;you should link it to x-bt 767011;1406211085;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: maybe people are pissed that Draper didn't reveal the USMS auction price on the Colbert Report yesterday << this theory should have its own blog post. maybe tie it into the baltic bitcoin conference one? 767012;1406211102;fluffypony;speaking of which 767013;1406211111;fluffypony;I've now managed to successfully choose the photos I want for the blog post 767014;1406211134;fluffypony;unfortunately I have to finalise this tender by CoB tomorrow, and there's stuff that needs changing 767015;1406211145;fluffypony;so maybe over the w/e 767016;1406211207;bitcoinpete;so you're saying there's a chance! 767017;1406211270;fluffypony;lulz 767018;1406211480;bitcoinpete;https://bitcoin23.crowdtilt.com/bitcoin23-nascar << donate $25k cuz bitcoiners have dogederp fomo 767019;1406211481;assbot;Bitcoin23 767020;1406211521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23372 @ 0.00080444 = 18.8014 BTC [+] {2} 767021;1406211630;mike_c;duffer1 must have spent time in a datacenter. that cable routing is tight. 767022;1406211851;kakobrekla;http://shrani.si/f/3Z/8U/3Mdj6vio/last-blocks.png 767023;1406211853;bitcoinpete;http://www.coinsetter.com/blog/2014/07/24/coinsetter-launches-beta-platform-now-full-us-bitcoin-exchange/ << lol! cloudflare! 767024;1406211854;assbot;Database Error 767025;1406211864;bitcoinpete;how "full" 767026;1406211868;kakobrekla;funny, atc having most txes per block. 767027;1406211893;mike_c;Rassah:Mainly because taking to someone on IRC does't give you nearly as much information as talking to them IRL, over beers, while watching their nonverbal cues and cmmunication << uh, does this guy know hom scamming works? 767028;1406211931;fluffypony;hah hah 767029;1406211951;mike_c;i mean, those are exactly the tools at the disposal of the scammer. misleading cues and communication. 767030;1406211954;fluffypony;becase confidence tricksters don't exist, and even if they did they'd never know which non-verbal cues they should be giving off 767031;1406212046;kakobrekla; funny, atc having most txes per block. < guess mike_c is to blame 767032;1406212060;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: wow. the wotcoin dominateth. 767033;1406212091;mike_c;kakobrekla: i'll add quark support in winter 2014/2024 767034;1406212097;kakobrekla;lol 767035;1406212112;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> you should link it to x-bt /// i had to hack teh phpz, but it's done! 767036;1406212133;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: lol. nice 767037;1406212271;bitcoinpete;mike_c: if you weren't in the wot, i'd swear your quark support was a scam 767038;1406212301;mike_c;it's coming, i swear. you can pay me for it now. 767039;1406212331;bitcoinpete;please to provide address 767040;1406212331;ThickAsThieves;booo 767041;1406212354;ThickAsThieves;mike_c is selling out for the community 767042;1406212373;bitcoinpete;i only trust mike_c if address starts with teh 3 767043;1406212388;ThickAsThieves;ethreemeum 767044;1406212396;mike_c;i am trying to figure that out right now.. i thought that was version number and we were still on 1. 767045;1406212427;bitcoinpete;i only invest in teh future 767046;1406212444;bitcoinpete;>3 investing policy nao in effect 767047;1406212468;bitcoinpete;heya Pierre_Rochard 767048;1406212690;mike_c;fuck me, that ehremum address is version 5! such futuristic 767049;1406212701;chetty;mike_c: Rassah:Mainly because taking to someone on IRC does't give you nearly as much information as talking to them IRL, over beers, while watching their nonverbal cues and cmmunication << uh, does this guy know hom scamming works?//meeting pirate in person helped so many people figure that one out 767050;1406212738;mike_c;i know, right? confidence men don't gain your confidence by not having a beer with you. 767051;1406212748;ThickAsThieves;#b-a - We Know How Scamming Works 767052;1406212760;ThickAsThieves;no no thats not right 767053;1406212764;ThickAsThieves;:) 767054;1406212897;bitcoinpete;lol 767055;1406212913;bitcoinpete;#b-a - We Know One When We See One 767056;1406213049;thestringpuller;"game recognize game and you lookin' kinda unfamiliar" translated: "we know one when we see one and you look like a scammer" 767057;1406213090;mike_c;i'm probably the only idiot in here, but in case there is one other: "3 indicates a "pay-to-script-hash" address that contains a hash (one way fingerprint) of a script that can be used for multiple things including address obfuscation and multi-signature requirements." 767058;1406213210;nubbins`;i was talking to another local screenprinter last night 767059;1406213242;nubbins`;he did a series of prints last year depicting a map of the city cut up into different neighbourhoods, with the name of each written on top (it's a thing people do) 767060;1406213255;nubbins`;he says he's made enough money off those prints so far that he was able to buy a new car :0 767061;1406213326;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: did you tell him he shoulda bought $10k of bitcoin instead? 767062;1406213341;nubbins`;i think if he'd done that he'd be less happy now 767063;1406213399;bitcoinpete;heh his loss 767064;1406213419;nubbins`;;;calc 10000/1000 767065;1406213419;gribble;10 767066;1406213425;nubbins`;;;calc 10*[ticker --last] 767067;1406213426;gribble;6048.8 767068;1406213430;nubbins`;not his loss, precisely 767069;1406213489;bitcoinpete;it's a long game 767070;1406213525;bitcoinpete;and i'd be shocked if his car kept more value in that year 767071;1406213545;ThickAsThieves;how would he drive around in his bitcoins tho?> 767072;1406213594;bitcoinpete;let's say he made $20k off the prints 767073;1406213603;bitcoinpete;$10k for new car, $10k for bitcoins 767074;1406213648;bitcoinpete;$20k car is worth $15k the next year 767075;1406213666;ThickAsThieves;maybe his lifestyle require nicer car 767076;1406213673;ThickAsThieves;requires 767077;1406213689;thestringpuller;nubbins`: need more litho-printers these days 767078;1406213690;chetty; $20k car is worth $15k the next year// and all the maintence costs and insurance and and 767079;1406213695;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: what is this "requires" business? 767080;1406213705;ThickAsThieves;he's his own man 767081;1406213712;ThickAsThieves;and what he requires he decides 767082;1406213722;thestringpuller;chetty: unless that car is a Tesla :P 767083;1406213726;bitcoinpete;mebbe 767084;1406213729;ThickAsThieves;i mean, somewhere in all this bitcoining you buy stuff, and some of that stuff aint cheap as possible 767085;1406213737;bitcoinpete;mebbe he's also married and doesn' 767086;1406213742;bitcoinpete;doesn't own his own cock 767087;1406213751;ThickAsThieves;ok 767088;1406213759;ThickAsThieves;maybe he has two cocks 767089;1406213762;chetty;choices are so much fun 767090;1406213783;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: but dude doesn't have any bitcoin afaik 767091;1406213796;bitcoinpete;not the same choice as you and i have 767092;1406213801;ThickAsThieves;no no 767093;1406213808;ThickAsThieves;we have a real case 767094;1406213811;nubbins`;heh 767095;1406213818;ThickAsThieves;he mad ethe money when bitcoin was a certain price 767096;1406213821;ThickAsThieves;you cant ignore that 767097;1406213833;nubbins`;he made the money when btc was > $1k 767098;1406213840;nubbins`;now, to be fair, he's still making money 767099;1406213852;nubbins`;i think he said he's pulled in $13k so far, hoping for $20k by the new year 767100;1406213859;nubbins`;which TBH kinda floored me 767101;1406213862;ThickAsThieves;so you might say, ok bro you got the car, maybe now get some btc 767102;1406213870;nubbins`;meh 767103;1406213885;ThickAsThieves;but maybe btc goes to 250 767104;1406213887;nubbins`;what i really want him to spend his money on is stuff i can sell him ;p 767105;1406213899;bitcoinpete;or borrow the money to buy the car and use the cash to buy btc 767106;1406213926;ThickAsThieves;either way i'm done worrying about random canadian stranger! 767107;1406213950;nubbins`;heh 767108;1406213951;nubbins`;http://gigposters.com/designer/57508_Jud_Haynes.html 767109;1406213952;assbot;GigPosters.com - Jud Haynes 767110;1406213954;nubbins`;there's some of his work 767111;1406213954;bitcoinpete;lol ya i'm just being difficult 767112;1406213958;kakobrekla;its easy to speak for the past. 767113;1406213961;nubbins`;talented guy 767114;1406213990;bitcoinpete;quite 767115;1406214029;nubbins`;we printed that "hey rosetta" one in the second row 767116;1406214042;xmj;fluffypony: did i post you my business plan and pricing scheme? 767117;1406214053;fluffypony;for the Cloud of Trust? 767118;1406214062;xmj;nah 767119;1406214072;xmj;that one is just lulz 767120;1406214127;xmj;fluffypony: biz plan: https://dpaste.de/hfYX/raw pricing: https://dpaste.de/oZHJ/raw 767121;1406214229;fluffypony;*clicks* 767122;1406214370;fluffypony;xmj: that's decent - I'd pay that 767123;1406214409;xmj;validation is good 767124;1406214470;xmj;i figured it'd be a sign of (costly) honesty to put the margin % there too. 767125;1406214491;xmj;you know... signalling. in order to fly my guys to conferences i need to make decent cash. 767126;1406214561;fluffypony;yeah look, if I paid a competent sysadmin freelancer that'll cost me $50/hour, and I can guarantee they'll over-engineer things despite my asking for something simple 767127;1406214569;fluffypony;and end up taking 3 weeks to do a 1 day job 767128;1406214626;Pierre_Rochard;hey bitcoinpete 767129;1406214687;bitcoinpete;how's life at bitpay Pierre_Rochard ? 767130;1406214729;Pierre_Rochard;bitcoinpete: or borrow the money to buy the car and use the cash to buy btc << I like this form of indirect leverage. Who else would finance bitcoins < 5% APR (0% if you get a good deal)? 767131;1406214746;Pierre_Rochard;Very nice 767132;1406214805;bitcoinpete;glad to hear it! 767133;1406214937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.13517667 = 2.8387 BTC [-] {2} 767134;1406214941;xmj;fluffypony: we're at about 75$/h 767135;1406214951;xmj;and yes overengineering. config management all through. 767136;1406214968;xmj;it's just that.. we're faster. 767137;1406214998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.13261 = 1.0609 BTC [-] {2} 767138;1406215004;xmj;i've noticed there is no difference in setting up a server from scratch either a) manually or b) with salt. b) is reproducible, documented and reusable. 767139;1406215059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.1324875 = 1.5899 BTC [-] {3} 767140;1406215198;kakobrekla;https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10511487_10154395125595483_190465396346203020_o.jpg 767141;1406215350;xmj;fluffypony: ^ 767142;1406215367;fluffypony;lol 767143;1406215382;xmj;well, i did want to point at the log before, but the greek flag is good too 767144;1406215390;fluffypony;xmj yeah - I don't have a problem with an over-engineered template that gets reused by someone competent 767145;1406215459;xmj;http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/geeks-and-repetitive-tasks.jpg 767146;1406215462;xmj;relevant. 767147;1406215628;xmj;fluffypony: if you hear from anyone that they need such, let me know please :) 767148;1406215635;kakobrekla; bitcoinpete: or borrow the money to buy the car and use the cash to buy btc << I like this form of indirect leverage. Who else would finance bitcoins < 5% APR (0% if you get a good deal)? < as i was saying, if you are in position where you need to borrow to gamble/invest in btc, you should not do it. 767149;1406215729;Pierre_Rochard;kakobrekla: so everyone should pay off their mortgage / student loans / credit cards / car loans before buying bitcoins? Seems a little extreme and just poor balance sheet management imho 767150;1406215788;kakobrekla;put in what you can not what you cant. 767151;1406215857;*;nubbins` groans 767152;1406215878;nubbins`;paying off debts before putting money into high-risk investment: "a little extreme" 767153;1406215882;xmj;paying off debt is always the best option. 767154;1406215885;xmj;if you have them. 767155;1406215910;nubbins`;pierre rochard buying up bitcoins w/ mortgage, car loan, student loans hanging over head 767156;1406215913;*;nubbins` groans louder 767157;1406215928;xmj;one exception is if you can do arbitrage gains -- loan against something and lend against someone with equivalent risk and still gain money. 767158;1406215934;*;xmj chuckles. 767159;1406215963;nubbins`;i suppose at the very least, bankruptcy would absolve you of your car loan and mortgage 767160;1406215968;nubbins`;(and your car and house) 767161;1406215968;mike_c;of course, you need credit default swaps for that arbitrage. and insurance on your credit default swap counterparty. 767162;1406215994;xmj;no why would you? 767163;1406216011;xmj;you don't need cds if they're of equivalent risk. 767164;1406216014;mike_c;"with equivalent risk" 767165;1406216016;xmj;that's speculation. 767166;1406216028;xmj;not arbitrage. 767167;1406216046;xmj;if they're of equivalent risk and differently priced that's due to market frictions. 767168;1406216057;mike_c;mhm. explain this magical scenario where you avoid counterparty risk. 767169;1406216074;xmj;you don't want to avoid it 767170;1406216108;xmj;you're a counterparty risk to the bank and someone else is a counterparty risk to you 767171;1406216112;xmj;the risks are equivalent 767172;1406216113;bitcoinpete;"Mr. Schneiderman, the state’s top law enforcer, contended that Barclays favored high-frequency traders over other investors in its dark pool, known as Barclays LX. He contended Barclays falsified marketing materials, inaccurately portraying the concentration of high-frequency traders in the market, and he said the bank misrepresented a service that purported to protect investors from predatory trading behavior." 767173;1406216136;mike_c;the risks aren't equivalent to *you*. 767174;1406216145;xmj;well 767175;1406216150;xmj;yes. 767176;1406216271;bitcoinpete;"On Thursday, Mark J. Mazur, the Treasury Department’s assistant secretary for tax policy, made the case that any new laws targeting inversions – transactions that allow American companies to reincorporate abroad – should be backdated to May 2014, potentially affecting a number of multibillion-dollar deals." 767177;1406216313;nubbins`;;;bc,xau 767178;1406216315;gribble;1 XAU = 1291.700000000000 USD = 2.15606743449 BTC 767179;1406216316;nubbins`;;;bc,xag 767180;1406216317;gribble;1 XAG = 20.680000000000 USD = 0.0345184443332 BTC 767181;1406216337;nubbins`;30-day low for gld/slv 767182;1406216390;bitcoinpete;i'm out. ciao! 767183;1406217492;ThickAsThieves;"Just a USMS auction price discovery update: I contacted the USDOJ Office of General Counsel regarding my FOIA request submitted back on the 6th of July... and they stated I should see information in early August. They also stated they had a flood of requests for information on that auction." 767184;1406217621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.81503056 BTC to 12`514 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 767185;1406217622;Pierre_Rochard;nubbins`: i suppose at the very least, bankruptcy would absolve you of your car loan and mortgage // is the assumption here that bitcoin price going to zero would make the borrower go bankrupt? Because that would be poor balance sheet management too. 767186;1406217682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 24.16124788 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2101 satoshi per share 767187;1406217684;nubbins`;the assumption that blowing your savings on a speculative investment when you have large pre-existing financial committments isn't a good idea 767188;1406217822;ThickAsThieves;it's at least risky 767189;1406217870;Pierre_Rochard;nubbins`: meh, very simplistic layperson’s view there. DSCR > 2 and LTV < 50% is prudent 767190;1406217879;ThickAsThieves;"good" seems to imply emotion or moral or somesuch 767191;1406217896;nubbins`;isn't a wise idea ;D 767192;1406217912;nubbins`;Pierre_Rochard sounds like you've got it all figured out 767193;1406218012;Pierre_Rochard;nubbins`: a 0% LTV is not a wise idea, nor is never taking an airplane to minimize risk of death 767194;1406218113;ThickAsThieves;not the best comparison 767195;1406219208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1604 @ 0.00295969 = 4.7473 BTC [+] {5} 767196;1406220916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.13232701 = 2.6465 BTC [-] {3} 767197;1406221526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.13230971 = 4.3662 BTC [-] {2} 767198;1406221950;mike_c;!up samO 767199;1406222039;mike_c;!up fats_cd03 767200;1406222046;fats_cd03;sankq 767201;1406222060;mike_c;like the new nick :) 767202;1406222068;fats_cd03;ikr 767203;1406222117;fats_cd03;Pierre_Rochard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort 767204;1406222117;assbot;Micromort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 767205;1406222140;asciilifeform;!s micromort 767206;1406222141;assbot;11 results for 'micromort' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=micromort 767207;1406222144;fats_cd03;as long as you evaluate risk properly, everything's gravy. 767208;1406222162;fats_cd03;cool, i have the first mention 767209;1406222340;punkman;asciilifeform: finally read anathem, wasn't such a backbreaker. maybe the big scrolling html made it go down easier than having to turn 900 pages by hand 767210;1406222370;mircea_popescu;punkman this is a fact. 767211;1406222388;asciilifeform;punkman: that's more or less the only fictional world i'd not mind moving to. 767212;1406222409;punkman;now this is a backbreaker https://archive.org/details/CartesiamMeditations 767213;1406222411;assbot;Cartesiam Meditations : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive 767214;1406222454;fats_cd03;anyone know where i can find a pdf of the 67-77 BRK letters? 767215;1406222479;fats_cd03;a cursory search didn't reveal anything 767216;1406222484;punkman;Stephenson says Husserl's writings are the hardest stuff he's read 767217;1406222517;mike_c;you could spring for the $3 http://www.amazon.com/Berkshire-Hathaway-Letters-Shareholders-2012/dp/1595910778 767218;1406222518;assbot;Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders, 2012: Warren Buffett, Max Olson: 9781595910776: Amazon.com: Books 767219;1406222521;mircea_popescu;fats_cd03 http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1981.html 767220;1406222523;mircea_popescu;it's html 767221;1406222686;ThickAsThieves;Dell offering 10% off with bitcoin 767222;1406222693;fats_cd03;ofn 767223;1406222707;mircea_popescu;;;ud ofn 767224;1406222708;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OFN | 2. ofn. OFN means, "Old Fucking News" meaning, GET WITH THE FUCKING TIMES! "Hhahaha, did you see t his totally l33t flash?" "OFN Loser by like a year.". 767225;1406222708;ThickAsThieves;alienware only 767226;1406222713;ThickAsThieves;sry! 767227;1406222750;fats_cd03;alienware sells painted pigs if i've ever seen one 767228;1406222796;ThickAsThieves;never owned one but they sure are ugly 767229;1406222805;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/6d1304770505e05593904d9e6f741c23/tumblr_mwwn7ngjHI1s2s899o2_500.jpg << also 10% off for btc. 767230;1406222851;ThickAsThieves;bitcoinpete.com down 767231;1406222873;fluffypony;http://isup.me/bitcoinpete.com 767232;1406222876;assbot;Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? 767233;1406222877;fluffypony;"It's just you. http://bitcoinpete.com is up." 767234;1406222887;ThickAsThieves;just hangs for me 767235;1406222890;ThickAsThieves;loads title tho 767236;1406222902;ThickAsThieves;needs more power! 767237;1406222929;ThickAsThieves;It's not just you! http://bitcoinpete.com looks down from here. 767238;1406222933;mircea_popescu;canada ran out of webhosting gerbils ? 767239;1406222946;ThickAsThieves;fluffyscammer 767240;1406222953;fats_cd03;robbed 767241;1406222969;fats_cd03;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfGMj10wOzg 767242;1406222969;assbot;Pharrell Williams - Come Get It Bae - YouTube 767243;1406223130;ThickAsThieves;!s coinsetter 767244;1406223131;assbot;4 results for 'coinsetter' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coinsetter 767245;1406223152;ThickAsThieves;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nyc-bitcoin-exchange-coinsetter-launches-out-of-beta-with-institutional-and-consumer-trading-2014-07-24 767246;1406223152;assbot;NYC Bitcoin Exchange Coinsetter Launches Out of Beta WithInstitutional and Consumer Trading - MarketWatch 767247;1406223236;ThickAsThieves;"President Barack Obama plans to go on the offensive later Thursday against companies that use cross-border mergers to avoid U.S. taxes, accusing them of essentially renouncing their American citizenship to shield profits. " 767248;1406223253;ThickAsThieves;funny how that works 767249;1406223266;mike_c;;;isitdown bitcoinpete.com 767250;1406223270;gribble;bitcoinpete.com is down 767251;1406223342;fluffypony;lol 767252;1406223345;fats_cd03;huhuhu 767253;1406223358;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: it reported as up when I visited it, hate the game not the player 767254;1406223364;fluffypony; 767255;1406224573;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves "we made the country suck how dare you leave now" is how it works 767256;1406224637;fluffypony;don't worry guys 767257;1406224640;fluffypony;Amir has this 767258;1406224640;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2blmc0/circle_has_still_not_responded_to_peter_todd/ 767259;1406224640;assbot;Circle has still not responded to Peter Todd about whether they are implementing censorship or surveillance technology : Bitcoin 767260;1406224674;mircea_popescu;what's circle again ? 767261;1406224687;mircea_popescu;o wait, one of the shits im selling short and nobody's buying 767262;1406224691;mircea_popescu;much like eth. 767263;1406224735;pankkake;why would anyone reply to peter todd? 767264;1406224757;fluffypony;"It's a shame because you make great points, but you express them in a manner that is all over the place bordering on incoherent. Not to mention, you unintentionally come off as a bully calling people fascists, etc, and criticizing people in such vitriolic ways just because their views don't match your own perfectly. To be honest, I agree with you, but I can't imagine you're doing anything but preaching to your own choir by expressing your 767265;1406224757;fluffypony;ideas in this manner. Try to just present the facts without all of the colorful nonsense." 767266;1406224762;fluffypony;great reply 767267;1406224771;mircea_popescu;pankkake i kinda like todd. or used to anyway 767268;1406224804;mircea_popescu;fluffypony sounds to me like someone just got told "you can't be mp, stop trying" 767269;1406225368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20484 @ 0.00081804 = 16.7567 BTC [+] {2} 767270;1406225729;mircea_popescu;!up Mantrid 767271;1406225731;mircea_popescu;yes. 767272;1406225755;ThickAsThieves;“I promise you even before this speech is over I’ll be attacked as a hater or a bigot or someone who is anti-gay,” Rubio said. “This intolerance in the name of tolerance is hypocrisy. Support for the definition of marriage as one man and one woman is not anti-gay, it is pro-traditional marriage.” 767273;1406225767;ThickAsThieves;so meta 767274;1406225851;chetty;ThickAsThieves, being 'pro' anything is so last century 767275;1406225853;mircea_popescu;why;s the guy promise me shit other people'd do. 767276;1406225878;ThickAsThieves;because he paid to have people attack him beforehand 767277;1406225887;ThickAsThieves;do you even marketeer? 767278;1406225899;mircea_popescu;lmao that meta ?! 767279;1406225910;ThickAsThieves;lol 767280;1406225944;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/88ce326ea4bb7609019855a67e9c0faa/tumblr_mnxrbwyqTY1s3mryno1_1280.jpg << is this a hs ? 767281;1406225959;ThickAsThieves;lol no 767282;1406225967;ThickAsThieves;it's stripper locker room 767283;1406225979;mircea_popescu;aok. 767284;1406226679;hanbot;dub looks for the unsee button / pigeons: yeah like i shouldnt already know better than to click one of mircea_popescu's links << "omg ew this is totally different than all the things going into other things i've seen today!" 767285;1406226798;chetty;http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Woman-in-Labor-Unable-to-Cross-Los-Angeles-Street-to-Hospital-Because-of-President-Obama-Motorcade-268427662.html?cid=sm_n_main_1_20140724_28403096 767286;1406226798;assbot;Woman in Labor Unable to Cross Street to Hospital Because of Obama Motorcade | NBC Southern California 767287;1406226908;mike_c;tmq often rants about gov't officials at even much lower levels with their ridiculous tax-payer funded security details fouling up things for everyone else with their special traffic treatment. 767288;1406227015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12785 @ 0.00081907 = 10.4718 BTC [+] {2} 767289;1406227017;chetty;well you just can't let kids see the emperors new clothes 767290;1406227047;mircea_popescu;i don't get this whole "security detail" bullshit for politicians and bureaucrats. 767291;1406227054;mircea_popescu;if anyone can be bothered to shoot them, they should be able to 767292;1406227068;mircea_popescu;not like there's any sort of talent pool involved, or like they'd ever run out. 767293;1406227103;mircea_popescu;"omg ew this is totally different than all the things going into other things i've seen today!" << lol 767294;1406227130;mike_c;i lol'd at this yesterday. not that they are over-reacting: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1876753.1406095852!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/front2-0723.jpg?enlarged 767295;1406227266;mircea_popescu;i dun get it. 767296;1406227297;mod6;is the domain mpex.co finished? I've updated the key in my script, just wondering if I should s/mpex.co/mpex.bz|mpex.ws/ 767297;1406227329;mike_c;mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#766094 767298;1406227330;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 767299;1406227334;mircea_popescu;mod6 ideally you should seed from proxybot. if not you can hardwire whichever active domain you like. 767300;1406227339;mircea_popescu;.co will be coming online later too 767301;1406227362;mod6;oh, ok. in that case, I'll probably just leave it as is. unless its like, weeks or something. 767302;1406227368;mod6;thakns mircea_popescu 767303;1406227371;mod6;& mike_c 767304;1406227372;gribble;Error: "mike_c" is not a valid command. 767305;1406227378;mike_c;what is proxybot? 767306;1406227395;mircea_popescu;$proxies 767307;1406227398;empyex;mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1158 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 767308;1406227413;mod6;ok :] 767309;1406227490;jurov;mircea_popescu when will be the the other DERPs offered? 767310;1406227506;jurov;or you wait for someone to bid? 767311;1406227541;mircea_popescu;jurov soon (tm). but meanwhile anyone can bid, sure. 767312;1406227747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 414 @ 0.00289024 = 1.1966 BTC [+] {2} 767313;1406228046;mircea_popescu;;;seen moiety 767314;1406228046;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: hi naphex, wb, hope you had a great holiday :] 767315;1406228335;mircea_popescu;;;isitdown szabo.best.vwh.net 767316;1406228338;gribble;szabo.best.vwh.net is down 767317;1406228342;mircea_popescu;fuck. 767318;1406228749;adrrr_;mircea_popescu: why do you talk in the third person? 767319;1406228780;mircea_popescu;adrrr_ specifically ? 767320;1406228790;adrrr_;in general 767321;1406228795;mircea_popescu;but like where 767322;1406228806;adrrr_;like here 767323;1406228818;mircea_popescu;how do i talk in the 3rd person ? 767324;1406228838;adrrr_;How do you do? lol I don't know 767325;1406228848;adrrr_;just why 767326;1406228852;mircea_popescu;this is going well. can you point to such an instance ? 767327;1406228893;mike_c;mike_c thinks you aren't making any sense. 767328;1406228912;mircea_popescu;!s i 767329;1406228913;assbot;75349 results for 'i' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=i 767330;1406228914;adrrr_;no. you have examples 767331;1406228922;mircea_popescu;i bet you a third are mIne. 767332;1406228954;mike_c;;;ident adrrr_ 767333;1406228955;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'adrrr_', with hostmask 'adrrr_!~adrrr@ip-132.net-81-220-142.rev.numericable.fr', is identified as user 'adrrr', with GPG key id DDE46066D54B5198, key fingerprint 0F56A8FD02C59E657AB3C3DDDDE46066D54B5198, and bitcoin address None 767334;1406228971;adrrr_;you divert the issue 767335;1406228974;mike_c;another confused frenchman. 767336;1406228985;*;chetty like this adrrr_ 767337;1406228986;adrrr_;lol just askin 767338;1406228996;mircea_popescu;I divert the issue ? what issue! 767339;1406229014;adrrr_;the query sorry 767340;1406229027;adrrr_;you don't answer to 767341;1406229047;mircea_popescu;well cause it ain't making any sense. why do you chew the scenery ? 767342;1406229051;*;jurov doesn't always talk in 3rd person. but when he does, he uses /me 767343;1406229072;*;chetty yeah jurov 767344;1406229085;*;mircea_popescu 's not been doing that recently. 767345;1406229100;mike_c;adrrr_: you are bringing up a sore subject. we try not to discuss his tendency to talk in 3rd person. 767346;1406229113;adrrr_;just wanted to know 767347;1406229113;adrrr_;ok 767348;1406229118;mircea_popescu;x.x 767349;1406229155;mircea_popescu;;;google seinfeld "but i don't wanna be a pirate" 767350;1406229156;gribble;"Seinfeld" The Puffy Shirt (TV Episode 1993) - IMDb: ; Seinfeld Scripts - The Puffy Shirt: ; I don't wanna be a pirate - YouTube: 767351;1406229950;chetty;http://rt.com/news/175272-iraq-genital-mutilation-militants/#.U9EBEnyM-UE.twitter 767352;1406230746;benkay;decimation: http-kit and enlive are what i use 767353;1406230953;benkay; HANDSofSTEEL: If you really want to go long on ethereum, mircea_popescu wants to go short. I'd advise reading up on ethereum criticism before doing anything rash though. // it's magically also a bet that nothing'll be around in 9/12 mos. 767354;1406231041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.13499999 = 2.025 BTC [+] {2} 767355;1406231468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 213 @ 0.0029 = 0.6177 BTC [+] {2} 767356;1406231529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 787 @ 0.0029 = 2.2823 BTC [+] 767357;1406231748;mircea_popescu;!up mutate_ 767358;1406231775;mutate_;Thank you. 767359;1406231787;mircea_popescu;yw 767360;1406232290;mutate_;I'm fairly keen on being in the queue for one of the first alien blowjobs, before the novelty wears off and they start marrying humans and making them unhappy. Unfortunately I can't by any magic Ether cards because maths and computers got you fairly badly bullied at school and so I simply use a computer to have my bank details stolen from and know nothing whatsoever about Linux. What can I do? 767361;1406232353;fluffypony;mutate_: easy, just get yourself taken up for some probing 767362;1406232375;mircea_popescu;mutate_ well, you could start working on crumbling that pile of impactions resulting from being bulied ? learn to linux ? 767363;1406232381;mircea_popescu;it's not nearly as hard as it seems. 767364;1406232459;mircea_popescu;;;later tell midnightmagic i dun see a problem in principle either, but i was trying to examine this "salt is hard to mine" theory. anyway. 767365;1406232460;gribble;The operation succeeded. 767366;1406232770;jurov;what makes you think aliens will be good at bjs? 767367;1406232787;jurov;!up darlidada 767368;1406232858;mircea_popescu;jurov all those teeth man. 767369;1406232859;jurov;i guess someone preannounced they will sell for btc 767370;1406232865;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/just-how-much-do-you-know-about-washing-diapers/ 767371;1406232871;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8302 @ 0.00081605 = 6.7748 BTC [-] 767372;1406232964;mircea_popescu;UNDER capitalism, ran the old Soviet-era joke, man exploits man. Under communism it is just the opposite. In fact new research suggests that the Soviet system inspired not just sarcasm but cheating too: in East Germany, at least, communism appears to have inculcated moral laxity. << for the record, this is older than electricity. 767373;1406232986;mircea_popescu;"bolshevism is that jew-sponsored form of satanism that alters the moral fiber of good law abiding men making them beasts" 767374;1406233012;mircea_popescu;there's a whole discussion of the statement of these views as put forward by franco's republic a week or two ago in the logs. 767375;1406233414;mircea_popescu;Rassah: My tribe consists of Tsiolkovsky and Tozoni, so I've been surrounded by extremely intimidating levels of inteligence... < if that means konstantin, wasn't the guy dead before the war ? 767376;1406233520;mircea_popescu;Rassah: p.s. I'm not saying their etherium deal is a good one. I don't think investing in ether can in any way give a better return than investing in bitcoin... I don't think vitalik is much of a finance guy, either, so I'm not sure if this "ipo" ca be blamed on him << what the fuck sense does this make ? some guy that's not a finance guy involving himself in finance things is stupid by any conceivable definition of th 767377;1406233520;mircea_popescu;e term. 767378;1406233528;mircea_popescu;is also to blame, by any conceivable definition of blame. 767379;1406233542;fluffypony;ok HeySteve says his connection is fixed 767380;1406233545;fluffypony;and we can unban him 767381;1406233547;mircea_popescu;moreover, buterin in particular is very very guilty, because he knew what he should have done, and he's known it for a long fucking time. 767382;1406233551;mircea_popescu;a kk 767383;1406233713;mircea_popescu;as a rule of thumb, i would say it's a great idea that if one's using a bouncer, that one sets the bouncer up so if it fails three times in five minutes it stops trying and shoots the owner an email or something. join/part spam is definitely annoying in all channels, even if most won't do anything about it. 767384;1406233736;dub;!up mutate_ 767385;1406233827;mutate_;Thanks dub. 767386;1406233906;rithm;by bouncer has some long retry delays and a list of every freenode server 767387;1406233917;mircea_popescu;!up HeySteve 767388;1406233921;rithm;raise the roof hobana 767389;1406233929;mircea_popescu;rithm that also works. 767390;1406233950;rithm;if my bouncer didn't work i'd quit bitcoin 767391;1406233954;HeySteve;hello 767392;1406233955;mircea_popescu;people can want to minimize delays if they're trying to log a chan, but here the logs are published anyway. 767393;1406233955;rithm;screw you guys, I'm out 767394;1406233960;mircea_popescu;and related, http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/07/14/catieparker-justinejoli-31782/images/full/08.jpg 767395;1406233971;HeySteve;not using a bouncer, ADSL just gets dicey occasionally 767396;1406233981;rithm;use a bouncer 767397;1406233984;rithm;znc is fun 767398;1406233997;fluffypony;znc is the bomb diggety 767399;1406233997;rithm;i was like a decade-long psyBNC user 767400;1406234002;rithm;idk y in retrospect 767401;1406234011;HeySteve;if I forget to disconnect before I go to sleep it can get spammy 767402;1406234032;mircea_popescu;HeySteve you can prolly set your client not to auto-reconnect 767403;1406234035;dub;you are nearly always spammy 767404;1406234043;dub;invest in a shell 767405;1406234062;rithm;yeah my shell is prepaid up to like 2017 767406;1406234067;rithm;get with the times 767407;1406234091;HeySteve;ok disabled the auto-reconnect 767408;1406234099;mircea_popescu;should be fine then. 767409;1406234099;rithm;this is like 101 stuff like using BCC 767410;1406234117;rithm;or black boxes instead of blur filters to redact 767411;1406234184;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/epoch-are-idiots.jpg < this is how you redact, noob :D 767412;1406234243;rithm;plain white boxes would also redact just as well 767413;1406234247;rithm;nice pattern though 767414;1406234273;dub;lol 767415;1406234275;rithm;who signed up for porn? 767416;1406234310;jurov;no porn. just alien blowjobs are IPOing somewhere 767417;1406234349;kakobrekla;dun forget; http://blogs.dailyrecord.com/photojournalist/files/2009/01/swirl_1.jpg 767418;1406234357;rithm;epoch.com is definitely a porn cancellation 767419;1406234386;mircea_popescu;!s sexgangsters 767420;1406234387;assbot;0 results for 'sexgangsters' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sexgangsters 767421;1406234391;mircea_popescu;hm 767422;1406234394;mircea_popescu;da fuck it was called 767423;1406234396;mircea_popescu;!s gangsters 767424;1406234397;assbot;24 results for 'gangsters' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gangsters 767425;1406234409;rithm;it says sexgangsters.com 767426;1406234433;rithm;looks like a reocurring 34.99 if I've ever seen anything like that 767427;1406234435;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758471 << there. some web game i played for five minutes 767428;1406234435;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 767429;1406234440;mircea_popescu;and thus got like five bux. 767430;1406234448;HeySteve;heh I tried that sexgangsters thing, didn't seem very interactive tho 767431;1406234471;mircea_popescu;i suspect this is deliberate. if people wanted interactive they wouldn't do online porn, they'd get a gf. 767432;1406234492;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/07/14/catieparker-justinejoli-31782/images/full/16.jpg << interactive. 767433;1406234549;HeySteve;I learnt today of some guy in Romania making a Heroes of Might & Magic style browser game 767434;1406234559;HeySteve;the idea is you'll be able to play against people for Bitcoin 767435;1406234585;HeySteve;http://www.ancientbeast.com/ is the link but it's quite far from finished 767436;1406234586;assbot;AncientBeast - Turn Based Strategy Game 767437;1406234589;mircea_popescu;well there have been like 500 remakes, i recall playing a pretty good one back in 2007ish. 767438;1406234596;mircea_popescu;but still, great idea. who's he ? why's he not here ? 767439;1406234604;HeySteve;I will ask him to join 767440;1406234615;mircea_popescu;please do. homm2/3 were like... the best games ever made. 767441;1406234618;mircea_popescu;i still play em ffs. 767442;1406234662;mircea_popescu;!up DreadKnight 767443;1406234670;DreadKnight;bacon, ty fellow romanian 767444;1406234684;mircea_popescu;o hi there. so what's this game thing ? 767445;1406234687;HeySteve;hey DreadKnight 767446;1406234727;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, open source game I'm doing, will eventually allow people to battle for bitcoin, a mix of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and trading card games, lots of units, each with unique abilities 767447;1406234743;mircea_popescu;this is splendid. do you want to release under s.mg ? 767448;1406234774;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, sorry, what's s.mg? not familiar with bitcoin-assets atm 767449;1406234786;mircea_popescu;http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.MG this thing. 767450;1406234786;assbot;S.MG last 2@0.00009100 767451;1406234799;mircea_popescu;basically, bitcoin electronic arts, let's say. 767452;1406234802;mircea_popescu;!up nagzter 767453;1406234814;nagzter;hey 767454;1406234818;mircea_popescu;ello 767455;1406234865;nagzter;HeySteve: mentioned this channel over in #ancientbeast and I wanted to check it out ;) 767456;1406234867;dub;dude, aspiring to be EA? 767457;1406234872;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, is that a license type? trying to make sense of it :D 767458;1406234873;mircea_popescu;dub yes. 767459;1406234891;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight it could be, yes. 767460;1406234906;mircea_popescu;;;topic 767461;1406234907;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 767462;1406234914;mircea_popescu;nagzter ^ best way to check it out is the log. 767463;1406234923;dub;mircea_popescu: you'll want to aim higher than those fucktards 767464;1406234927;nagzter;I'm over on the site now ;) 767465;1406234934;mircea_popescu;dub in what sense higher ? 767466;1406234948;nagzter;I read the topics ;) 767467;1406234954;dub;less crack more utility 767468;1406234958;mircea_popescu;cool. 767469;1406234962;HeySteve;EA are quite hated, what they did to Dungeon Keeper was terrible 767470;1406234964;mircea_popescu;dub they're supposed to be games not utilities man. 767471;1406234974;mircea_popescu;HeySteve i did say BITCOIN ea didn't i. 767472;1406234984;mircea_popescu;like you know, bitcoin is the bitcoin dollar. doesn't mean anyone's printing it. 767473;1406234986;mircea_popescu;just the good parts. 767474;1406235016;mircea_popescu;HeySteve you don't mean dk2 do you ? 767475;1406235029;HeySteve;nope mircea_popescu, they released a DK mobile game 767476;1406235035;mircea_popescu;oh. that i never saw. 767477;1406235044;HeySteve;where to mine a block, you basically had to pay or wait a few hours / days 767478;1406235054;mircea_popescu;ew 767479;1406235084;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight anyway, get your gpg registered in the wot as a first step. we'll work something out. 767480;1406235213;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, website doesn't provide any info about what this is exactly; I did one or more transactions on bitcoin-otc thingy a while ago if that helps 767481;1406235239;HeySteve;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26033685 767482;1406235240;assbot;BBC News - EA faces criticism over mobile Dungeon Keeper game 767483;1406235252;pankkake;;;gpg info DreadKnight 767484;1406235253;gribble;User 'DreadKnight', with keyid F6A23D326FDF1035, fingerprint 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035, and bitcoin address None, registered on Sun Apr 7 14:39:11 2013, last authed on Sun Apr 7 12:39:11 2013. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=DreadKnight . Currently not authenticated. 767485;1406235278;DreadKnight;I'm pretty sure I have gpg key 767486;1406235302;DreadKnight;!gpg info 767487;1406235310;mircea_popescu;;;ident DreadKnight 767488;1406235310;gribble;Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is not identified. 767489;1406235338;mircea_popescu;well, do you still have key 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035 ? 767490;1406235412;DreadKnight;checking folder 767491;1406235495;mircea_popescu;gpg --list-keys --fingreprint 767492;1406235526;DreadKnight;was looking for that 767493;1406235541;DreadKnight;gpg: Invalid option "--fingreprint" 767494;1406235567;mike_c;fingerprint, not fingreprint 767495;1406235573;mircea_popescu;;/ 767496;1406235593;DreadKnight;seems I have that key, yey, mircea_popescu 767497;1406235602;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, fun fact : notaries in argentina require you to put your thumbprint next to doc uments you sign 767498;1406235620;mircea_popescu;which is really ofputting, because in many cultures, such as my own, the thumbprint is the curse of the illiterate. 767499;1406235628;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight so then go ;;eauth DreadKnight 767500;1406235639;DreadKnight;;;eauth DreadKnight 767501;1406235640;gribble;Request successful for user DreadKnight, hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035 767502;1406235649;mircea_popescu;curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035|gpg 767503;1406235649;assbot;404 Not Found 767504;1406235668;thestringpuller;gpg --decrypt 767505;1406235679;thestringpuller;;;ident 767506;1406235679;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None 767507;1406235699;DreadKnight;that command did nothing 767508;1406235738;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight well then just get the pgp blob at the url, then run gpg and paste it in 767509;1406235830;mircea_popescu;!s conference 767510;1406235831;assbot;491 results for 'conference' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=conference 767511;1406235840;mircea_popescu;Rassah: Any of you guys ever go to conferences? ^ a bunch of people went to all sorts of them. 767512;1406235926;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, I'm a bit noobish; running gpg in a terminal... and it's like gpg: Go ahead and type your message ... then I paste F6A23D326FDF1035 in? xD 767513;1406235938;mircea_popescu;no. paste the blob you find at that url 767514;1406235943;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035 767515;1406235961;DreadKnight;oh, you wanted the public key 767516;1406235966;mircea_popescu;nope. 767517;1406235982;mircea_popescu;the login process is that you make a claim as to who you are, gribble encodes a string to that public key 767518;1406235993;mircea_popescu;to prove you actualy are that you decrypt and present the string 767519;1406236005;DreadKnight;I got the string, any preferred pastebin? 767520;1406236013;mircea_popescu;you go ;;everify string 767521;1406236035;DreadKnight;;;everify string 767522;1406236036;gribble;Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. 767523;1406236041;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/271VZ4C.txt ) 767524;1406236041;mircea_popescu;!b 5 767525;1406236051;pankkake;and press the any key :) 767526;1406236052;asciilifeform;then press 'any key.' 767527;1406236055;asciilifeform;damn 767528;1406236079;DreadKnight;oh, I ignored gribble a while ago, was poking me daily on private 767529;1406236080;mircea_popescu;now try replacing "string" with you know, the actual string. 767530;1406236103;pankkake;that would explain your difficulties :D 767531;1406236107;mircea_popescu;lol 767532;1406236111;DreadKnight;yeah 767533;1406236127;mircea_popescu;you can keep it ignored really. the otp url never changes 767534;1406236128;DreadKnight;was thinking I'm not running those commands 767535;1406236144;DreadKnight;well, I'm not sure where to press any key :P 767536;1406236146;mircea_popescu;you don't actually need any input from it to do this. just flip its state twice. 767537;1406236157;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight what's that string then ? 767538;1406236170;DreadKnight;it's a few lines long 767539;1406236174;mircea_popescu;nah 767540;1406236177;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: it's on the back of your power supply block. 767541;1406236188;mircea_popescu;this is a typical session, looky : 767542;1406236189;mircea_popescu; ;;eauth mircea_popescu 767543;1406236190;mircea_popescu; Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 767544;1406236191;mircea_popescu; ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b754a642b13565e0bfe87f3083717c62829912335e322188a0e32d01 767545;1406236191;mircea_popescu; You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 767546;1406236289;DreadKnight;;;everify string 767547;1406236289;gribble;Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. 767548;1406236311;mircea_popescu;>.> 767549;1406236318;DreadKnight;ikr :D 767550;1406236332;DreadKnight;;;eauth DreadKnight 767551;1406236333;gribble;Request successful for user DreadKnight, hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035 767552;1406236340;mircea_popescu;at this rate you'll have to write things on your tits a la indiancandy girl. 767553;1406236371;asciilifeform;;;seen indiancandy 767554;1406236371;gribble;indiancandy was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: find nickserver 767555;1406236392;pankkake;I don't know why I never noticed the URL did not change… could have saved me a step 767556;1406236405;pankkake;;;seen indiancandy1 767557;1406236406;gribble;indiancandy1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: 500* 767558;1406236433;BingoBoingo;!s indiancandy1 767559;1406236438;HeySteve;the URL never changes? lol 767560;1406236447;HeySteve;learn something new every day 767561;1406236472;jurov;yea, i only find and run from history: curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/ID | gpg -q --output - --decrypt 767562;1406236472;assbot;404 Not Found 767563;1406236477;mircea_popescu;HeySteve the url is really your keyid 767564;1406236518;mircea_popescu;pankkake this is the benefit of halping noobs. 767565;1406236524;HeySteve;mircea_popescu that makes sense 767566;1406236524;mircea_popescu;one never knows who the noob really is :D 767567;1406236527;BingoBoingo;!up DreadKnight 767568;1406236554;DreadKnight;;;eauth DreadKnight 767569;1406236555;gribble;Request successful for user DreadKnight, hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035 767570;1406236559;mircea_popescu;!up efefefrbrb 767571;1406236563;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight congrats. 767572;1406236573;mircea_popescu;!rate DreadKnight 1 HoMM fan! 767573;1406236580;mircea_popescu;;;rate DreadKnight 1 HoMM fan! 767574;1406236581;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DreadKnight has been recorded. 767575;1406236598;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight now you can self-voice. you identify with gribble (same process as you just completed) then pm assbot !up 767576;1406236605;DreadKnight;sorry it took me so long, did that stuff last time about 1 year ago perhaps xD ignoring gribble only added to the confusion 767577;1406236612;efefefrbrb;still amused by the whole Ethereum scam 767578;1406236624;mircea_popescu;efefefrbrb you need a better name 767579;1406236705;mircea_popescu;uh. 767580;1406236708;mircea_popescu;wait. 767581;1406236711;mircea_popescu;;;ident DreadKnight 767582;1406236712;gribble;Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is not identified. 767583;1406236720;mircea_popescu;omg you still ain't done it! 767584;1406236729;DreadKnight;strange 767585;1406236732;BingoBoingo;!up GodHatesFigs 767586;1406236737;DreadKnight;;;eauth DreadKnight 767587;1406236738;gribble;Request successful for user DreadKnight, hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F6A23D326FDF1035 767588;1406236749;mircea_popescu;now decrypt it. 767589;1406236764;jurov;DreadKnight: if you're on linux or mac, just do the curl script i pasted 767590;1406236769;DreadKnight;oh 767591;1406236772;BingoBoingo;!up fats_cd03 767592;1406236780;jurov;it will ask your passphrase and spit out the decrypted message 767593;1406236809;DreadKnight;I might have got the passphrase wrong, tried a few times and didn't get a field anymore to write in 767594;1406236832;fats_cd03;dongs 767595;1406236841;jurov;what did gpg write to console? 767596;1406236844;mircea_popescu;fats_cd03 http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/07/14/catieparker-justinejoli-31782/images/full/07.jpg 767597;1406236878;jurov;^ that should have been interracial 767598;1406236931;fats_cd03;on ma mobile and t-nazis has my traffic filtered 767599;1406236940;fats_cd03;'for the children' 767600;1406236976;BingoBoingo;%ob 767601;1406236981;atcbot;30k@240 42k@239 37k@238 | 138k@210 45k@201 400k@199 767602;1406236986;mircea_popescu;jurov aww why. honky tonk galz can't lick each other out no mo ? 767603;1406237022;mircea_popescu;what's this bizarre hang-up with "actually knowing" people one met on skype and "kept in touch with" on facebook ? 767604;1406237082;mircea_popescu;it reads to me like alfred p. doolittle confronted with a restaurant after a lifetime of mcdonalds explaining how them hamburgers were at least nourishing. 767605;1406237090;mircea_popescu;why, he'd be shitting rocks after eating one of them! 767606;1406237123;DreadKnight;hmm brb 767607;1406237172;mircea_popescu;pankkake: /r/buttcoin can't deal with bitcoin opinions that are not the standard /r/bitcoin crap; they expect to fill their bingo cards and it doesn't work << quite. 767608;1406237194;mircea_popescu;this is just about how one identifies libertards in the field. they do this paint-by-numbers thing like the soviets of yore. 767609;1406237312;GodHatesFigs;at least r/buttcoin is mildy amusing 767610;1406237349;mircea_popescu;gets repetitive quickly, btu sure, for a few minutes 767611;1406237452;GodHatesFigs;r/bitcoin - where economic illiteracy meets teenage investment plans 767612;1406237494;GodHatesFigs;let's all pester this merchant into accepting bitcoin! 767613;1406237506;mircea_popescu;re http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bh2sr/mtgox_creditor_meeting_handout/cj5e9ue << of course, mp said mtgox is syphoning customer funds, a while back. 767614;1406237506;assbot;trixisowned comments on mtgox creditor meeting handout 767615;1406237506;fluffypony;GodHatesFigs: in parlance it's /r/ - if you drop the leading forward-slash it's hard to catch programatically 767616;1406237543;mircea_popescu;!s "r/" 767617;1406237544;assbot;1109 results for '"r/"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22r%2F%22 767618;1406237572;fluffypony;!s "/r/" 767619;1406237572;assbot;1109 results for '"/r/"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%2Fr%2F%22 767620;1406237575;mircea_popescu;fluffypony seems reasonably on-target no ? 767621;1406237590;mircea_popescu;GodHatesFigs you bring good points. 767622;1406237592;fluffypony;seems like you're including /r/ results :-P 767623;1406237596;fluffypony;!s " r/" 767624;1406237597;assbot;1109 results for '" r/"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22+r%2F%22 767625;1406237601;*;fluffypony gives up 767626;1406237612;*;mircea_popescu does victory dance 767627;1406237622;mircea_popescu;(protip : it's dropping the / token anyway) 767628;1406237643;fluffypony;werd 767629;1406237739;mthreat;!s reddit r 767630;1406237740;assbot;52 results for 'reddit r' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reddit+r 767631;1406237768;mircea_popescu;trixisowned: when in reality they just added their address to the list of miners, and take a percentage of each block as if they were actually hashing << this is pretty major, actually. 767632;1406237774;mircea_popescu;proofs ? 767633;1406237784;trixisowned;mircea_popescu, thats the whole thing 767634;1406237787;trixisowned;he refuses 767635;1406237789;trixisowned;to release code 767636;1406237792;trixisowned;for CBBSRB 767637;1406237794;trixisowned;and has done so 767638;1406237801;trixisowned;since the day he implemented 767639;1406237825;mircea_popescu;hm. 767640;1406237831;trixisowned;and he calls everyone a troll 767641;1406237834;trixisowned;that points that out 767642;1406237843;trixisowned;and says "I DONT EVEN HAVE ANY PART IN ELIGIUS ANYMORE" 767643;1406237845;trixisowned;lol. 767644;1406237845;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: he's punting Etherium? << he's new, and behind on teh reads. 767645;1406237854;pankkake;https://i.imgur.com/3Nk9eKC.png 767646;1406237857;trixisowned;which is a complete untruth 767647;1406237896;fluffypony;pankkake: you've been buying Magic the Gathering cards again? 767648;1406237901;mircea_popescu;pankkake lol win. 767649;1406237969;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> HANDSofSTEEL: If you want to take both sides, BitBet is probably the best tool for that --- good point, need ETH BitBet, that's how we can all short the mofo << well obviously not all. 767650;1406237988;mircea_popescu;the problem here is that the past few days have kinda clearly shown the complete lack of any counterparty. you can't trade without cp. 767651;1406238034;BingoBoingo;Ah the few people who considered wanting the Ether didn't want it when they heard about the hangover when you come to 767652;1406238050;mircea_popescu;i got drunk on champagne, there's no hangover for that. 767653;1406238148;ThickAsThieves;really champagne is worst hangover for me 767654;1406238160;mircea_popescu;http://zakireza.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/running-of-the-bulls-05.jpg << that's what the dreams of er people look like. 767655;1406238162;ThickAsThieves;i wont even drink a whole glass usually 767656;1406238169;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you're prolly thinking us fakefizzy. 767657;1406238176;ThickAsThieves;probly 767658;1406238185;mircea_popescu;anyway, we put away i dont recall, 2, 3 bottles ? 767659;1406238187;mircea_popescu;something 767660;1406238215;BingoBoingo;I've never had a problem with champagne, now "champagne" as in the generic bubbly stuff from places that shouldn't be attempting such a thing... 767661;1406238228;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves wait, you had the romanian stuff. ever drunk it or just gifted it away ? 767662;1406238232;ThickAsThieves;i think i told you but the bottle from Ro made it safely home and into my belly at some point 767663;1406238239;mircea_popescu;ah yes. so headache ? 767664;1406238239;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/aAZjQ4v.jpg 767665;1406238240;ThickAsThieves;i dont recall a hangover 767666;1406238245;mircea_popescu;right. point settled. 767667;1406238251;jurov;ThickAsThieves for quality hangovers look for "warning: contains sulphur" 767668;1406238263;ThickAsThieves;like wine sulphites? 767669;1406238280;jurov;yes, whatever they use to treat it 767670;1406238296;mircea_popescu;yeah, bisulphites can be a good cause. all sorts of crap they put in wine, sparkling or not, can be it. 767671;1406238307;mircea_popescu;sugar especially, which is why you want to drink brut or very dry 767672;1406238317;ThickAsThieves;i prefer dry 767673;1406238326;ThickAsThieves;in all food really 767674;1406238333;ThickAsThieves;most 767675;1406238335;ThickAsThieves;hehe 767676;1406238353;ThickAsThieves;that coinbase cancellation is so wtf 767677;1406238394;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if checking accounts get cancelled like that too 767678;1406238395;mircea_popescu;no, it's how the aml crap works. world's noobliest bayesian filtering implemented by janitors and congressional aides. 767679;1406238403;pigeons;coinbase cancellation? 767680;1406238409;mircea_popescu;iitl pi07r 767681;1406238413;mircea_popescu;oops i mean pigeons 767682;1406238417;ThickAsThieves;<+pankkake> https://i.imgur.com/3Nk9eKC.png 767683;1406238418;fluffypony;pigeons: you should click on more links 767684;1406238426;mike_c;the world wide web is a pile of undocumented bullshit. 767685;1406238433;mircea_popescu;yeah. here's one : http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/07/14/catieparker-justinejoli-31782/images/full/15.jpg 767686;1406238434;pigeons;not after that one from mircea_popescu yesterday 767687;1406238449;mircea_popescu;pigeons you're against social justice ? 767688;1406238458;pigeons;no i just dont want to look at it 767689;1406238463;mircea_popescu;ahh win. 767690;1406238466;mircea_popescu;!up cyranodeB 767691;1406238496;pankkake;I've had a fiat transactions cancelled for less - but that payment processor was trash for almost everything so 767692;1406238503;BingoBoingo;cyranodeB: How's the nose? 767693;1406238511;pigeons;coinbase cancellation as in mircea_popescu cancelled his DERP? or coinbase cancellation as in the same old thing where they cancel people's order cause coinbase 767694;1406238512;cyranodeB;hi everybody... 767695;1406238534;cyranodeB;thanks BingoBoingo.... how is showering? i can smell you from here! (smile) 767696;1406238544;pigeons;by the way, literally and seriously much btter and more useful than ethereum: http://www.dogeparty.io/ 767697;1406238544;assbot;Dogeparty 767698;1406238549;mircea_popescu;wait... bb had a GIRLFRIEND ? 767699;1406238561;mircea_popescu;!up GodHatesFigs 767700;1406238579;BingoBoingo;cyranodeB: Well, I just got back from cutting some lawns so smelling pretty ripe 767701;1406238643;mircea_popescu;BigBitz: Bitcoin markets don't revolve around news. <<< bitcoin is here to make the news, not to follow the news. 767702;1406238657;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu> wait... bb had a GIRLFRIEND ? << I don't think I've had any that would be in Lithuania atm 767703;1406238679;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo but then again you drink, so how'd you know. 767704;1406238695;BingoBoingo;That I guess is a good question. 767705;1406238807;cyranodeB;sorry if i annoy anyone with a repeated question.. but does anybody have an idea why bitcoin is crashing??? 767706;1406238829;BingoBoingo;cyranodeB: China Drama 767707;1406238835;BingoBoingo;Happens from time to time 767708;1406238837;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 767709;1406238838;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 602.5, Best ask: 604.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 602.32, 24 hour volume: 10201.68824563, 24 hour low: 591.12, 24 hour high: 622.67, 24 hour vwap: 606.291211732 767710;1406238844;mircea_popescu;what crashing is that lol. 767711;1406238950;mircea_popescu;pankkake: natalie portman is a jew? I always knew something was off with her << only on the mother's side. 767712;1406238962;cyranodeB;china?? what happend in china??? 767713;1406238986;cyranodeB;;;ticker --low 767714;1406238987;gribble;591.12 767715;1406239047;BingoBoingo;cyranodeB: Just the usual "Banned Bitcoin" again or some shit 767716;1406239095;mircea_popescu;pankkake: why would all scammers be dumb? << it's a self-selecting activity. smart people find better things to do. 767717;1406239162;cyranodeB;where do you have that information from BingoBoino? 767718;1406239165;mircea_popescu;pigeons: vitalik sells lots of snake oil besides etherum: emulated quantum computer that runs faster than its von neuman host; proof of stake; "trustless" distributed fiat (schellingcoin); << he's like andreas v2.0 then ? 767719;1406239206;BingoBoingo;cyranodeB: Just read someone derping about it a few hours ago. Don't care enough to look into it because this shit just happens. 767720;1406239248;cyranodeB;anyone else here who has an idea whats happening? 767721;1406239258;mircea_popescu;pigeons: wow really they are already trying to damage control the 1% of the press they get that isn't positive? and from a bitcoinpete (no offense lol) blog post? << the 1% happens to be what matters in this field. 767722;1406239271;mircea_popescu;mkay i guess that's good enough 767723;1406239273;mircea_popescu;!down cyranodeB 767724;1406239439;mircea_popescu;%d 767725;1406239441;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 644367.37 in 1216 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -6.23 767726;1406239450;BingoBoingo;lulz http://coinfire.cf/2014/07/24/massive-ddos-coin-fire-underway/ 767727;1406239451;assbot;Massive DDOS Against Coin Fire Underway - Coin Fire 767728;1406239457;BingoBoingo;%ob 767729;1406239458;atcbot;30k@240 42k@239 37k@238 | 138k@210 45k@201 400k@199 767730;1406239509;mircea_popescu;"A few nights ago an attacker sent a message via our contact form demanding we send .5 BTC to protect ourselves from a DDOS attack." 767731;1406239519;mircea_popescu;wait, this wouldn't be the same guy i was lulzing at last month ? 767732;1406239555;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-06-2014#724879 specifically 767733;1406239556;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 767734;1406239611;mircea_popescu;"The attack vector is using Facebook notes to flood our site using a known exploit on Facebook and weve reached out to friends at Facebooks Cyber Security team who have determined the IP address of the original person hitting the attack vector and are working with law enforcement actively to track this user down." 767735;1406239637;mircea_popescu;so much lol in there. 767736;1406239676;BingoBoingo;No idea, but Facebook seems like an appalingly stupid sort of tool for this kind of derp 767737;1406239757;mircea_popescu;the guy doesn't have enough sense to USE FUCKING LINKS because he's not yet caught up with the web, byt anyway, here is the stuff he should have provided : http://chr13.com/2014/04/20/using-facebook-notes-to-ddos-any-website/ 767738;1406239759;assbot;Using Facebook Notes to DDoS any website | A Programmer's Blog 767739;1406239776;mircea_popescu;it's stupid-easy to protect from : a) ban facebook. b) don't allow ambiguous reference to expensive resources. 767740;1406239794;dignork;BingoBoingo: there was an article, about facebook aggresively crawling site which you post a link to, it can be used to ddos 767741;1406239802;mircea_popescu;dignork see above >D 767742;1406239816;mircea_popescu;it's emphatically not a ddos. it's a dos. 767743;1406239826;dignork;oh, write, don't read 767744;1406239832;mircea_popescu;fuckwits on the internet tho, just use words like their mommy made them 767745;1406240109;mircea_popescu;im surprised no one's made endometrium coin yet btw. 767746;1406240218;mircea_popescu;mike_c: i'm probably the only idiot in here, but in case there is one other: "3 indicates a "pay-to-script-hash" address that contains a hash (one way fingerprint) of a script that can be used for multiple things including address obfuscation and multi-signature requirements." << tl;dr : 3addresses are an unnecessary and crufty thing some idiots pretend they've added to bitcoin. 767747;1406240465;mircea_popescu;Misconceptions (on the bitcoin.it wiki) : Addresses are not wallets nor accounts, and do not carry balances. They only receive funds, and you do not send "from" an address at any time. 767748;1406240488;mircea_popescu;how the fuck do you send bitcoin, pray tell, if not by signing with the private key associated with a public key that's an address that has a balance ? 767749;1406240491;dignork;pigeons, I looked at dogeparty, it's a fork of counterparty, minus double-spending protection provided by btc network 767750;1406240550;mircea_popescu;o look : https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Address&action=historysubmit&diff=49101&oldid=46223 lukejr edited that page to a) replace the cannonical example with the bullshit 3thing, 767751;1406240551;assbot;Difference between revisions of "Address" - Bitcoin 767752;1406240581;DreadKnight;bacon 767753;1406240585;mircea_popescu;took out the private key discussion entirely, 767754;1406240588;HeySteve;huzzah 767755;1406240593;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, ok, I think I managed 767756;1406240604;mircea_popescu;added the entire misconceptions thing... 767757;1406240613;mircea_popescu;Luke-Jr why are you so scummy ? 767758;1406240618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 312 @ 0.0040532 = 1.2646 BTC [-] {5} 767759;1406240619;mircea_popescu;;;ident DreadKnight 767760;1406240619;gribble;Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is identified as user 'DreadKnight', with GPG key id F6A23D326FDF1035, key fingerprint 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035, and bitcoin address None 767761;1406240626;mircea_popescu;;;rated Luke-Jr 767762;1406240626;gribble;You rated user Luke-Jr on Mon Apr 29 11:03:34 2013, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Most recently, lied about BFL delivery (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165500.0;all). Old history of being untrustworthy.. 767763;1406240660;mircea_popescu;;;rate Luke-Jr -10 VERY old history of being untrustworthy. See http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2014#767750 or inquire within 767764;1406240660;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 767765;1406240661;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Luke-Jr has changed from -1 to -10. 767766;1406240675;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight indeed you have. 767767;1406240780;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, alright, what's next? 767768;1406240809;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight next is, well, tell me a little about what you're planning with this game, how's it going etc. 767769;1406241139;BingoBoingo;%d 767770;1406241142;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 644316.03 in 1213 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -6.24 767771;1406241153;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 767772;1406241156;gribble;Current Blocks: 312318 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 161 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 27 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18652322160.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.59103 767773;1406241181;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, Alright :-) making free open source game project, turn based strategy game playable from the browser; it's kinda like the reverse of Super Smash Bros Brawl, as it features a lot of original characters that will be featured in a lot of other games; the project is inspired by Heroes of Might and Magic 3's combat system, but improved, combined with Trading Card Games; it's fun, easy to get into, but it's hard to maste 767774;1406241181;DreadKnight;r, one of those ever green games basically; it leaves nothing up to chance and randomness, yet no two games will be the same; it can be played 1vs1 or 2vs2 on pretty much any device with pretty much any input method; so want to make "the chess of the future", a way for people to battle for fun or digital currency, very accessible, playable even without account or paying anything; I'm a bit stuck on the coding part atm, the current 767775;1406241183;DreadKnight;prototype was funded thanks to a few bitcoins I sold at a decent enough time so that I could afford paying a part time coder for a few months, but now I'm broke and I'm not a very good coder; so I could use some support to get things going 767776;1406241212;mircea_popescu;it leaves nothing up to chance and randomnes << this is a problem. 767777;1406241261;DreadKnight;in chess you don't have randomness; the random part is that unlike chess, you pick your units (tools) as you go by, so from hundreds of units, you'll only put like 5 or so into play in a match 767778;1406241302;DreadKnight;so you'll always want to counter your enemy units with ones that you think are best for the job 767779;1406241316;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight if there's no randomness involved people won't be likely to play for btc. 767780;1406241330;mircea_popescu;there's a reason poker championships give out multi milion prizes 767781;1406241341;mircea_popescu;while chess championships give away 500 bux 767782;1406241388;DreadKnight;in chess you get basically an infinite of possibilities, no two games are the same; and Ancient Beast is way more complex than chess, but looks less boring 767783;1406241403;mircea_popescu;but the results are deterministic. 767784;1406241409;DreadKnight;I'm not looking to make yet another poker or dice game, there are plenty of btc online casinos 767785;1406241424;mircea_popescu;poker is not dice. stick to my example no ? 767786;1406241424;BingoBoingo;Yeah a game without randomness leads to high level play being dominated by dickstabbers, people who instead of playing in an enjoyable way will pull out their dick knives and stab their dick for an 0.01% advantage. 767787;1406241426;DreadKnight;I'm making something that's all about skill, not luck 767788;1406241439;kakobrekla;no random? get ready for botraep. 767789;1406241442;mircea_popescu;well that's nice, i guess. 767790;1406241491;DreadKnight;even if you pick only the units with best stats, they can be countered, so there's no point in exploiting the game; your opponent will most likely be able to make the same units, so no point in that 767791;1406241498;BingoBoingo;!s blockchain chess 767792;1406241498;assbot;3 results for 'blockchain chess' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blockchain+chess 767793;1406241583;mircea_popescu;this log is fucking epic. guy that's got himself blacklisted by derping at me can't spell funding and is looking for $500. 767794;1406241585;DreadKnight;a lot of people play moba (dota/dota2/league of legends/heroes of newerth/etc), played moba for about years and pretty much avoided all the issues that type of game has when it comes to Ancient Beast itself 767795;1406241603;mircea_popescu;the sad irony of all this being that we've been actually looking for a competent sysadmin to run stuff for years. 767796;1406241641;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight looky here : in business, one's always selling something. games are business. as such, they can either sell content or risk. 767797;1406241654;mircea_popescu;to make money selling content you need huge economies of scale, because content is so expensive to make. 767798;1406241663;mircea_popescu;this is why wow was a gold mine and rift spent 10mn for ~3mn in returns 767799;1406241667;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, even if it's free open source, there are business strategies to it 767800;1406241670;mircea_popescu;rift is a very nice game, too, but that dun matter. 767801;1406241686;mircea_popescu;so now, you'll have to sell risk whether you want to or not. learn to live with it. 767802;1406241700;DreadKnight;I agree, that's planned 767803;1406241709;mircea_popescu;you just said it wasn't above 767804;1406241717;DreadKnight;I talked about the vanilla game 767805;1406241737;DreadKnight;which everybody has access to, but which won't be have a ladder / prized / money involved at all 767806;1406241751;DreadKnight;prizes* 767807;1406241761;mircea_popescu;go on ? 767808;1406241768;Luke-Jr;mircea_popescu: troll 767809;1406241777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 526 @ 0.00283717 = 1.4924 BTC [-] {4} 767810;1406241778;kakobrekla;Luke-Jr child rapist. 767811;1406241788;Luke-Jr;kakobrekla: liar 767812;1406241798;kakobrekla;Luke-Jr banana 767813;1406241833;Luke-Jr;[22:23:06] took out the private key discussion entirely, <-- because it has nothing to do with addresses 767814;1406241841;Luke-Jr;[22:23:26] added the entire misconceptions thing… <-- because it is needed 767815;1406241862;mircea_popescu;private keys have nothing to do with the public keys they're paired with ? 767816;1406241884;Luke-Jr;addresses aren't public keys 767817;1406241904;mircea_popescu;in what sense. 767818;1406241927;mircea_popescu;can i calculate the bitcoin address that'd correspond to any arbitrary private address i choose ? 767819;1406241939;Luke-Jr;*version 1 addresses* are *implemented* using ECDSA keypairs inside wallets; but that's a technical detail, and there is a separate page for technical details 767820;1406241961;Luke-Jr;the Address page is intended to be for end-users 767821;1406241965;mircea_popescu;eh spare me the derpage. you and the rest of the usg plants are trying to push forward a certain political aggenda. 767822;1406241973;Luke-Jr;USG? 767823;1406241975;mircea_popescu;it won't work if i have to kill you all, and i won't have to kil you all. 767824;1406242005;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1AP9QXR.txt ) 767825;1406242005;BingoBoingo;!b 6 767826;1406242020;*;Luke-Jr wonders wtf he is being accused of now 767827;1406242052;mircea_popescu;you're not being accused. you've just been convicted. that's all. 767828;1406242129;DreadKnight;there will be a mode for subscribers that will have a monthly ladder, top players receiving prizes; each match and victory will be logged; in this mode, your units will die and you'll have to purchase card packs with random units inside, so you won't have access to every single unit in the game unless you pay, also each victory will take a toll, as you'll have casualties most likely; you'll also be able to feed your units to impro 767829;1406242129;DreadKnight;ve certain stats for limited amounts of time, food will be rather cheap, but it can make the difference between life and death, victory and loss; besides, there will be tournaments, playing for digital currency (where a % will be taken as fee); each month the ladder will start fresh, winners from previous month being added to a hall of fame; there will also be merchandise in the shop (tshirts, miniatures, plushies, and so on), mos 767830;1406242130;DreadKnight;t of the Ancient Beast units will become popular thanks to their license / attribution and usage, so it's all like a virus, to spread as much as possible 767831;1406242146;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight ok, now you're talking 767832;1406242164;mircea_popescu;so what's your role in all this ? you draw the artwork ? you code the game ? 767833;1406242204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 798 @ 0.00280034 = 2.2347 BTC [-] {8} 767834;1406242247;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, I'm a jack of all trades, designed the project, I manage the thing, make abilities, made the website, look for contributors, code, sketch, test it with fans, whatever it needs to be done; I'm working with quite a bit of people, constantly looking for fresh blood, that's the beauty of being open source 767835;1406242282;mircea_popescu;so like a pm basically, mostly covering for game design 767836;1406242284;DreadKnight;I'm proficient with organic low poly modeling though, but that will be noticeable a bit later, when animations will get in the game, sample www.AncientBeast.com/viewer 767837;1406242352;DreadKnight;getting weekly emails from people to allow them to use artwork / assets in their games and I'm pretty much underground atm 767838;1406242379;mircea_popescu;ok, so what do you need from your publisher ? 767839;1406242431;DreadKnight;I don't really need a publisher, need a bit of funding / sponsorship to speed things up and get some help with coding 767840;1406242451;mircea_popescu;that seems self-contradictory. 767841;1406242490;DreadKnight;indie game devs don't usually go for publishers; they rather make crowd funding campaigns to avoid strings attached 767842;1406242499;DreadKnight;will get to that as well soon 767843;1406242523;*;asciilifeform was at bazaar, buying food, missed all the good derp 767844;1406242529;asciilifeform;somebody's playing blockchain chess now? 767845;1406242543;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight mkay, i guess if that's how you swing. 767846;1406242554;asciilifeform;am i doomed to see every gedankenexperiment brought into flesh ? 767847;1406242598;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, back in the day the only method were printing cd's and selling them in shops, so yeah, publisher was needed; now it's internet era, digital downloads, websites, app stores 767848;1406242600;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes. this is the point of flesh, to make thoughts painful. 767849;1406242605;asciilifeform;lol 767850;1406242609;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight im not sure you take my meaning. 767851;1406242634;asciilifeform;'we shall learn to get by with a minimum of thinking - because thinking is painful.' - a maths prof of mine 767852;1406242660;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard: kakobrekla: so everyone should pay off their mortgage / student loans / credit cards / car loans before buying bitcoins? Seems a little extreme and just poor balance sheet management imho <<< i can see it. bitcoin is still not for the poor. 767853;1406242692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00081672 = 16.6611 BTC [+] {2} 767854;1406242704;asciilifeform;which currency, if any, is 'for' the poor ? 767855;1406242722;mircea_popescu;labor. 767856;1406242723;mod6;tide 767857;1406242737;asciilifeform;or is this more of an 'air is not for the drowning' observation. 767858;1406242742;mircea_popescu;the two are amusingly related : work -> schweddyballs -> tide. 767859;1406242752;asciilifeform;;;ud schweddyballs 767860;1406242753;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schweddy+Balls | The most infamous Delicious Dish episode featured Alec Baldwin as the chef Pete Schweddy, who came to the show to showcase his "Schweddy Balls," an... 767861;1406242767;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, the game is playable from the website, SaaS business model (software as a service), so what was your meaning? 767862;1406242773;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform just an alternate spelling of sweaty balls, that also happens to be an edible product. 767863;1406242779;asciilifeform;aha 767864;1406242827;Pierre_Rochard;mircea_popescu: ah, well I’ll myself out then 767865;1406242831;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight you're thinking publisher in the sense of the world of atari, making hardware cartridges. 767866;1406242846;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/07/newly-diagnosed-one-handed-man-totally-worth-it/ 767867;1406242847;assbot;Newly Diagnosed One-Handed Man: Totally Worth it | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 767868;1406242851;mircea_popescu;lol is he trolling me ?! 767869;1406242881;asciilifeform;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/06/patient-literally-sweats-his-balls-off 767870;1406242882;assbot;Patient Literally Sweats His Balls Off | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 767871;1406242893;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight im thinking more in the sense of the larger entity you get backstopped against. 767872;1406242897;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, there are several ways of spreading a webgame as well, "web publishers" like facebook, fgl.com, gamejolt.com and many more - the game is easy to embed anywhere actually 767873;1406242924;mircea_popescu;i suppose i should say "sponsor" in your terminology. 767874;1406242938;DreadKnight;:-) 767875;1406242967;DreadKnight;or even investors, as long as the strings aren't forever 767876;1406242996;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/07/firework/ 767877;1406242996;assbot;Local ER Refuses to Take Care of Firework Injuries this July 4th | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 767878;1406243000;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight why not ? 767879;1406243041;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, wondering, I'm from Constanta, what about you? (most likely Bucharest) 767880;1406243043;BingoBoingo;We need Darwinism to sneak back into our society. We [medical community] have propped up too many people that shouldnt be alive today which has allowed the creation of super idiots that the world has never seen before. Seriously, has anybody seen the movie Idiocracy..we are starting to live it. 767881;1406243053;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i lived for a while in timisoara, cluj before that. 767882;1406243065;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema learn that variety speak 767883;1406243066;gribble;You're gonna have to learn that variety speak pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Pro idiotas, which obviously means, people who have ... - Trilema: substance 767938;1406245703;HeySteve;ThickAsThieves I guess so yeah, but I don't like the pay to win kind of thing at all 767939;1406245721;DreadKnight;was checking reviews for a tablet a few months ago and the tablet was pink, most reviews were like "and it's awesome that it's pink, my daughter will love it", mom also got a pink phone *sigh* 767940;1406245723;ThickAsThieves;right, dota 2 is doing it all right 767941;1406245726;HeySteve;but for cosmetic stuff, it works well 767942;1406245761;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves this is the benefit of aging. you start to realise your time is worth more than money. 767943;1406245765;ThickAsThieves;pump out new characters, new costumes for the old ones, and never update the actual game much 767944;1406245779;ThickAsThieves;even there they still work at it 767945;1406245807;DreadKnight;HeySteve, I agree; I'm keeping pay to win totally away from free to play; hated that I played Ancient Summoner (now called Rise of Mythos) and I was pawning most players, but everytime I was fighting a noob that put a few bucks in the game, I was getting humiliated, I eventually quit playing because of that 767946;1406245823;ThickAsThieves;dota is just missing a hangout area 767947;1406245880;DreadKnight;ThickAsThieves, it has chat rooms, you can make new ones hmm 767948;1406245900;DreadKnight;it pretty much has IRC embedded inside 767949;1406245929;ThickAsThieves;i didnt know 767950;1406245935;ThickAsThieves;never looked i guess 767951;1406245944;ThickAsThieves;seems it should be in one of the main pages 767952;1406245965;DreadKnight;anyway, Ancient Beast has lots of advantages over moba (dota2) 767953;1406245980;DreadKnight;ThickAsThieves, the chat is right side in the main menu 767954;1406245997;DreadKnight;every country has a few rooms, lots of trading or random channels 767955;1406246015;DreadKnight;a lot of item trading spam or swearing / flaming :D 767956;1406246087;DreadKnight;I'm really starting to hate having to team up with random people in online multiplayer games, nothing good comes out of it usually 767957;1406246321;ThickAsThieves;it is the worst part of dota 767958;1406246329;ThickAsThieves;getting fuknuts on your team 767959;1406246350;cazalla;lol is the same 767960;1406246387;DreadKnight;one feeds, another one gets support and doesnt buy a ward / curier, one is afk, one disconnects, one thinks he's carry with the support, one has tank but he's always last in team fight, another one has initiator but he doesn't initiate crap and so on 767961;1406246411;mircea_popescu;kinda what guilds are invented for no ? 767962;1406246416;nubbins`;sounds fun 767963;1406246416;mircea_popescu;or slavegirls i guess 767964;1406246448;DreadKnight;5vs5 sucks; you can't play with anyone on the globe because of latency, you can't play with friends because they're noobs for sure, it's harder than having a band and you are stuck in a chair all day without making any money 767965;1406246482;nubbins`;harder than having a band 767966;1406246482;nubbins`;lel 767967;1406246492;DreadKnight;sometimes the matches are over before they even begin, all picking a carry instead of getting proper roles, or randoming and getting heroes they know what to do with 767968;1406246518;mircea_popescu;what's a carry ? 767969;1406246524;DreadKnight;or simply bad combinations, 4 melee plus yet another melee called void 767970;1406246532;nubbins`;;;google hey steve i think your singing was a little flat that time 767971;1406246533;gribble;the Dollhouse - Steve, I think your singing was a little flat - YouTube: ; Lagwagon- Leave The Light On 03. - YouTube: ; Welcome To The Dollhouse Script - Drew's Script-O-Rama: 767972;1406246540;nubbins`;^ first link 767973;1406246549;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, carry is the "Rambo" of the game, the one dealing damage but very item Dependant and squishy 767974;1406246576;HeySteve;ha funnily enough, I do sing kinda flat. tried a few bands but never became a rockstar 767975;1406246581;mircea_popescu;nubbins` lol who's that obnoxious mcdonalds manger 767976;1406246586;nubbins`;heheh 767977;1406246590;nubbins`;strange movie, worth watching 767978;1406246591;DreadKnight;so everyone wants the kills, but you can't have 5 carries in a team, no doubt, because there's not enough farm / gold, mircea_popescu 767979;1406246610;nubbins`;HeySteve :0 767980;1406246635;DreadKnight;and there's the team mate that always does nothing but steals your kills on purpose, just because, him being support and you being a carry 767981;1406246653;HeySteve;nubbins, this looks like napoleon dynamite kinda movie 767982;1406246658;DreadKnight;most shitty game designed every, yet it's an esport 767983;1406246664;nubbins`;awkward kids in middle america 767984;1406246666;DreadKnight;ever* 767985;1406246685;nubbins`;about the same, yeah, just filmed in the 80s instead of pretending it was ;D 767986;1406246696;cazalla;does dota have ranked/unranked matches like lol? 767987;1406246702;HeySteve;looks funny, nubbins? 767988;1406246706;nubbins`;girl's name is Dawn Weiner, classic tragedy 767989;1406246707;DreadKnight;cazalla, yes 767990;1406246711;nubbins`;HeySteveyeah 767991;1406246756;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight o i think i tried something like this at one time, ragnarsomething 767992;1406246769;DreadKnight;nubbins`, thanks for recommendation, looks fun 767993;1406246777;nubbins`;np 767994;1406246794;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, maybe Ragnarok Online? not sure if it's a moba 767995;1406246798;nubbins`;lel. customer wants "keep calm logo, like on the chive shirts" 767996;1406246826;nubbins`;so i create "keep calm and on", complete with royal crown 767997;1406246832;DreadKnight;and there's the situation where a noob from your team auto attacks instead of last hitting only or last hitting your creeps away from you when you're carry and he's support *sigh* 767998;1406246833;mircea_popescu;Heroes of Newerth it was. 767999;1406246835;nubbins`;guy says "i didn't think it had a crown on the top" 768000;1406246839;nubbins`;facedesk 768001;1406246874;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah, played that one as well, I was a moba junkie, it was part of the experience and motivation when designing Ancient Beast 768002;1406246874;nubbins`;guys, this game you're talking about sounds v complicated and nothing at all like mario kart 8 768003;1406246882;DreadKnight;true 768004;1406246916;cazalla;mk8 handles latency really well from what i've played of it online 768005;1406246923;DreadKnight;showed a teenage girl Angry Birds, she was like "please uninstall", showed her Super Tux Kart, "woah, this is fun!" 768006;1406246934;nubbins`;cazalla +1 768007;1406246954;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight methinks you're showing teenage girls the wrong things. 768008;1406246954;nubbins`;they do hide rankings for a few seconds before you cross the finish line, just in case 768009;1406246969;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, she had the cd with Angry Birds, I hate that game 768010;1406246973;nubbins`;mircea_popescu "please uninstall" ;( 768011;1406246980;cazalla;nubbins`, i've only been given a lower ranking than i expected a few times with that 768012;1406247002;nubbins`;cazalla it's pretty much only for the closest of calls 768013;1406247014;nubbins`;online mode is where true skill is acquired 768014;1406247024;nubbins`;i've only started recently, got my cups first 768015;1406247026;cazalla;yeah, i just passed 6000 768016;1406247042;nubbins`;i just broke 2000, but still gaining ground 768017;1406247070;DreadKnight;MMR system is fun when you don't have to rely on team mates 768018;1406247100;nubbins`;https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/492347634682576896 768019;1406247140;mircea_popescu;!s alienware 768020;1406247140;assbot;6 results for 'alienware' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=alienware 768021;1406247192;BingoBoingo;Only recent dell hardware I've been impressed with were those Latitude netbooks they made for a while 768022;1406247202;cazalla;mircea_popescu, these twistys links never work for me, prob not a big deal seeing it's been all nigger dick images past few days 768023;1406247212;DreadKnight;haha 768024;1406247215;mircea_popescu;cazalla no you're missing out. 768025;1406247233;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/204B6FZ.txt ) 768026;1406247233;BingoBoingo;!b 3 768027;1406247234;mircea_popescu;hot lezzie sexes. 768028;1406247322;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, did some friend recommended Heroes of Newerth? how long did you played it? why quit? 768029;1406247327;mircea_popescu;so today alone 143 different .ru domains supposedly sent people to trilema. 768030;1406247338;mircea_popescu;"traffic" is becoming less and less meaningful 768031;1406247387;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i play lots of things to try them out. i quit because i can't stand the model. too much like [lowly paid] work. 768032;1406247390;DreadKnight;there's something going on with Russia lately, because number one source of visitors for my project all of a sudden; dota2 servers are filled with russians, they're very hated 768033;1406247400;mircea_popescu;if i wanted to spend my time doing that sort of shit i 768034;1406247407;mircea_popescu;'d prolly take a 3rd world programmer job. 768035;1406247474;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: deterministic web game for btc is a non starter << this deserves an explanation 768036;1406247474;DreadKnight;a lot of people don't really like Heroes of Newerth's artwork, too detailed, yet your character is small 768037;1406247493;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but the explanation is i nthe log, which part didn;'t make sense ? 768038;1406247511;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i don't like the "learn this succession of small movements" part. 768039;1406247534;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, I think he was afraid of players doing the same things over and over again, or picking only the best units 768040;1406247546;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, every played battletoads? xD 768041;1406247548;DreadKnight;ever* 768042;1406247567;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight no. consider the supermodel of all player strategy games, btc.waroflife.com/ 768043;1406247576;*;asciilifeform reads 768044;1406247605;mircea_popescu;if the final state of the game flows deterministically from the state at any point, there's nothing for a human to do. 768045;1406247619;DreadKnight;true 768046;1406247643;DreadKnight;moba is too much about lane pushing and farming 768047;1406247690;DreadKnight;and roles like jungler or support are usually super boring 768048;1406247704;DreadKnight;but support is pretty mandatory, which is not cool 768049;1406247709;mircea_popescu;battletoads << no, never have. 768050;1406247753;DreadKnight;roger 768051;1406247994;mircea_popescu;!up prototype 768052;1406248574;danielpbarron;DreadKnight, i play dota 768053;1406248670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 491 @ 0.0019999 = 0.982 BTC [+] 768054;1406248731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 931 @ 0.00291011 = 2.7093 BTC [+] {2} 768055;1406248801;DreadKnight;danielpbarron, first or second one? 768056;1406248864;BingoBoingo;Maybe aspects of ohio aren't so bad http://deadspin.com/hazing-investigation-ohio-state-band-members-are-horny-1610311478 768057;1406248865;assbot;Hazing Investigation: Ohio State Band Members Are Horny And Depraved 768058;1406249707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00081487 = 6.1115 BTC [-] 768059;1406249712;BingoBoingo;Lulzmining https://vertcoin.org/pow-algorithm-upgrade-lyra2/ 768060;1406249712;assbot;Vertcoin – Bitcoin Upgraded » PoW Algorithm Upgrade : Lyra2 768061;1406249742;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3560 now you';ve done it. 768062;1406249742;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 4 weeks 55 minutes ago 768063;1406249756;asciilifeform;'comes as a preemptive strike against ASICs' << this shit never gets old, does it 768064;1406249787;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how could it ? 768065;1406249816;BingoBoingo;http://www.theonion.com/articles/elderly-man-cant-wait-for-senility-to-erase-lifeti,36419/ 768066;1406249817;assbot;Elderly Man Cant Wait For Senility To Erase Lifetime Of Regretful Memories | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 768067;1406249830;mircea_popescu;"Vertcoin has always been and will continue to be the leader in decentralization of cryptocurrency." 768068;1406249857;kakobrekla;:( 768069;1406249868;BingoBoingo;Hard to decentralize mining when few people want to work the turd mines 768070;1406249890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.01480916 = 0.7701 BTC [+] {4} 768071;1406249905;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: because actual solution (whether problem ought to be solved is a matter of concern to - other people...) was posted. free for the taking - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2014#590930 - but anyone lifted it? nope 768072;1406249905;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 768073;1406249972;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform let's laugh together. on one hand it's you saying that, one minute under some derp going in the bitbet comments section to say that since ThickAsThieves posted something here about a topic of interest, and magicaltux also hung out on irc, it follows that bitbet is bad. 768074;1406250007;mircea_popescu;now... what part of "the people are more stupid than can be put into words" needs putting into words ? 768075;1406250009;mircea_popescu;!up Guest52945 768076;1406250012;asciilifeform;socrates, a man. men sometimes eat shit. socrates eats shit. 768077;1406250015;mircea_popescu;!up guest8653 768078;1406250038;asciilifeform;bulletproof logic 768079;1406250107;mircea_popescu;the shit can never get old. "here's what i want, here's what's to be done, here's me not doing it". how would this ever get old. 768080;1406250265;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: imho it's a far worse thing when they - do - it. 768081;1406250285;mircea_popescu;well they don't do it. they do something that's "just as good". 768082;1406250293;mircea_popescu;according to X. 768083;1406250349;mircea_popescu;but anyway, forget the bitter me. let's refine your automata idea a little. 768084;1406250403;asciilifeform;gedankenexperiment. idea was, automata - and difficulty determined by size of playing field. preferably exponential growth. 768085;1406250410;mircea_popescu;suppose pow is, "find a 1mbit value which xored with your block results in a wol-like table which playing for 32 generations results in a table identical to the table of the block as is" 768086;1406250425;asciilifeform;more or less, this. 768087;1406250426;mircea_popescu;would you say this is an acceptable implementation ? 768088;1406250430;asciilifeform;aye 768089;1406250447;mircea_popescu;now, imbit = 128kb, which should be enough for the blocks originally. 768090;1406250461;mircea_popescu;suppose you double this every 200k blocks, much like how bitcoin halves reward. 768091;1406250485;mircea_popescu;except you don't have reward, you just increase 4fold the size of the field. 768092;1406250498;mircea_popescu;and implicitly the size of the block. 768093;1406250538;asciilifeform;actually you can weasel out of inflating block size, by using a hash of your favourite flavour to populate the field. 768094;1406250540;mircea_popescu;and of course the 32 can be adjusted as "difficulty" 768095;1406250546;mircea_popescu;ie, make it 4576957698475 generations if need be 768096;1406250560;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i dont wanna weasel out of inflating block size i dont think 768097;1406250597;mircea_popescu;i actually kinda want this built, if there's any hardcore c programmer looking for a major project. 768098;1406250615;*;asciilifeform leads people into perdition 768099;1406250685;mircea_popescu;this still needs better chaining than what bitcoin's doing. 768100;1406250708;asciilifeform;the folks looking to somehow 'vanish' the asic thing will be disappointed, though. 768101;1406250733;mircea_popescu;obviously anything that can be made can be made in silicon 768102;1406250762;asciilifeform;but the concept outlined here would provide something close to the theoretical maximum of annoyance to mining asic builders. 768103;1406250776;asciilifeform;the question of whether this needs doing, i'll leave to the folks who give a damn. 768104;1406250777;mircea_popescu;in particular because of the block increase 768105;1406250790;mircea_popescu;ie, either you make waseful asics or else you keep changing them every 200k blocks 768106;1406250795;asciilifeform;'once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down. that's not my department, said wehrner von braun.' 768107;1406250856;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what would you wish to see improved in chaining? 768108;1406250874;mircea_popescu;a way to make retaining blocks spurious. 768109;1406250877;BingoBoingo;Moar biodiesel http://thebiohazardblog.com/2014/07/23/ten-things-i-learned-from-the-dogecoin-community/ 768110;1406250878;assbot;Ten Things I Learned from the Dogecoin Community | The Biohazard 768111;1406250921;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: make retaining blocks spurious << i thought this was solved, at least in principle, with 'checkpointing' 768112;1406250940;mircea_popescu;checkpointing is evil tho. 768113;1406250962;mircea_popescu;one of the most important vulnerabilities extant in bitcoin as is. 768114;1406250963;asciilifeform;every so often, a 'year zero', and the chain is replaced with a hash of its state. anyone who wants the history, goes to an archive. 768115;1406250993;mircea_popescu;honestly i don't think i actualy understand what i want re chaining 768116;1406251035;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: either we keep every pissant transaction around, or we snip. tertium non datur, as i understand. 768117;1406251046;mircea_popescu;but why. 768118;1406251179;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, year zero will cut off confirmation for new transactions, but I would want for the downloaded stuff to not be 10gb; there are wallets that skip that stuff nowadays, though not recommended in certain cases 768119;1406251180;asciilifeform;incidentally, the 'we want an0nym1ty!!1' folks could be satisfied - use paillier's arithmetic to represent balances. so you need private key to know the state of an address. 768120;1406251198;mircea_popescu;that is a good part yes. 768121;1406251218;asciilifeform;again, why to do this, remains a mystery to me. but people seem to really want it, and could in principle do it this way. 768122;1406251231;mircea_popescu;yes indeed, there's at least two items for the bitcoin v2.0 : the wol pow detailed above and the p-airthm balance 768123;1406251264;asciilifeform;another, perhaps obvious temptation is to bake in the wot. 768124;1406251283;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that's a bad idea. baking in gpg however would be splendid. 768125;1406251286;asciilifeform;again, as a certified armchair general, i've no idea whether this is actually necessary. 768126;1406251294;mircea_popescu;suppose that anyone can generate txn using gpg, much like mpex works. 768127;1406251303;mircea_popescu;as long as your address is known, you're g2g. 768128;1406251336;mircea_popescu;sort-of where i was seeing the "b-a public registrar" project that nobody wants to do going, in step 2. 768129;1406251338;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you're willing to ditch ecdsa and use traditional rsa, and eat the cost of longer keys, this is trivial. 768130;1406251350;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform one can use w/e key he wants. 768131;1406251355;mircea_popescu;modularity is teh win 768132;1406251377;mircea_popescu;anyway the hash daisychanin satoshi used was moar like a joke than srs. 768133;1406251457;mircea_popescu;also, need much better hidding of the traffix it generates. 768134;1406251474;mircea_popescu;in principle one shouldn't be able to spot a b2.0 node on the network. 768135;1406251477;*;asciilifeform reminds listeners that he's a rather busy fellow and that they also have hands, and can do all of the above. 768136;1406251503;mircea_popescu;anyway, gonna have some cake, bbl. 768137;1406251662;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 768138;1406251664;gribble;Current Blocks: 312339 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 140 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 29 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18666668357.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.67378 768139;1406251735;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: one shouldn't be able to spot a b2.0 node on the network << in that traffic should resemble a traditional bitcoin node? or simply point to point encryption? 768140;1406251768;asciilifeform;because in the latter case, two nodes must know something about one another, or mitm is trivial. 768141;1406251882;BingoBoingo;!up HANDSofSTEEL 768142;1406251950;DreadKnight;this IRC channel works so much better than Bitcoin Business Alliance's skype group 768143;1406252009;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: Amazing how often older technologies work better than "advances" that would pretent to replace them isn't it 768144;1406252038;DreadKnight;well, skype is just designed with something else in mind, that's for sure :D 768145;1406252076;DreadKnight;but thanks to the BBA group, I log into skype once a month tops, very annoying 768146;1406252159;BingoBoingo;Well, the downside of skype is it forces you to interact with it through the interface it chooses, among other flaws. IRC though... You can pick a client and if it ends up being shit simply switch 768147;1406252208;DreadKnight;yeah, very true, screw closed protocols 768148;1406252612;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform traffic should resemble people exchanging gpg messages maybe ? 768149;1406252613;mircea_popescu;nfi. 768150;1406252654;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight there's a reason pros use particular tools rather than any other tools. 768151;1406252710;mircea_popescu;i think naggum was it had a rant on the topic. 768152;1406252735;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform had a rant or several as well 768153;1406253171;decimation;another theory of mh17 occured to me the other day: while it seems to be detrimental to the rebel's cause, in the bigger calcuation it might actually help them quite a bit 768154;1406253194;decimation;every human on earth now knows that russia is ready and willing to shoot anything down in that area 768155;1406253202;mircea_popescu;no rebel ever lost anything through causing trouble. 768156;1406253214;decimation;which euro nation wants to be the first one to try to start a "no-fly" zone ala iraq? 768157;1406253246;mircea_popescu;it seems improbable russia shot down the thing. 768158;1406253260;cazalla;DreadKnight, most of your complaints regarding mobas are tied to low tier, bronze league superstars, you don't see it in higher brackets which is why it's an esport and a good one at that 768159;1406253298;decimation;I think it is unlikely that it was explictly ordered, but I read another news story that the 'rebels' shot down some more ukranian fighter jets 768160;1406253307;BingoBoingo; it seems improbable russia shot down the thing. << I'm waiting for the investigation to reveal a la TWA 800 that the plane was doomed when it took off 768161;1406253337;decimation;weak-knee western military policy 101: start a no-fly zone 768162;1406253359;BingoBoingo;But in spite of the criticisms the Su-25 ground attack plane shooting it down is probably more feasible than it gets credit for. 768163;1406253381;mircea_popescu;decimation that's not happening. 768164;1406253398;decimation;right, because every last voter realizes exactly the kind of risk that would entail 768165;1406253409;decimation;a no-fly zone would start a major air battle 768166;1406253418;mircea_popescu;no it wouldn't. 768167;1406253439;mircea_popescu;a no fly zone would allow the russian airforce to showcase it's unmatched superiority by making short work of everything else. 768168;1406253481;mircea_popescu;if it were 1980s the republicans would have been all in favour, because nothing's better for public contracts than a humiliating, public defeat. 768169;1406253496;decimation;well, in any case russia isn't going to stand for foriegn aircraft patroling its border, and the world knows it will "arm its proxies" or whatever to make it happen 768170;1406253498;mircea_popescu;the thing is... the country can't pay anyway, so there's not much pork to be had out of "we need better new planes" 768171;1406253526;DreadKnight;cazalla, yeah, but to get high mmr, you have to play with non retards, very wise hand picked people, takes time; and you need to either sync in time tables or to have a lot of such people at your disposal, it's a chore to have a proper team 768172;1406253543;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu> the thing is... the country can't pay anyway, so there's not much pork to be had out of "we need better new planes" >> Not to mention the US is the the business now of buying worse planes 768173;1406253601;mircea_popescu;btw, anyone knows the famous case of gerald ratner ? 768174;1406253672;decimation;heh I just read about it on wikipedia 768175;1406253674;thestringpuller;;;ticker 768176;1406253675;cazalla;DreadKnight, so message the good players you pug with and put something together 768177;1406253675;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 601.16, Best ask: 603.08, Bid-ask spread: 1.92000, Last trade: 603.08, 24 hour volume: 10370.38719655, 24 hour low: 591.12, 24 hour high: 621.9, 24 hour vwap: 604.966260607 768178;1406253686;decimation;are you comparing him to this situation? 768179;1406253702;DreadKnight;cazalla, it's not as easy as it sounds 768180;1406253750;mircea_popescu;decimation in no sense. 768181;1406253763;mircea_popescu;merely a random thought 768182;1406253765;DreadKnight;cazalla, takes a few years to have a proper list of players, that's if you really care about it, remove noobs constantly 768183;1406253789;DreadKnight;and even ignore real friendships 768184;1406253806;cazalla;worked for me in lol 768185;1406253808;DreadKnight;you also need synergy 768186;1406253817;decimation;when your business model is selling baubles to idiots, it's probably not wise to point out the idiocy of bauble-buying 768187;1406253835;cazalla;DreadKnight, maybe you're just a scrub player? no offense 768188;1406253843;DreadKnight;lol doesn't have denying, no scrolls, no curiers, simpler mechanics cazalla 768189;1406253862;pigeons;dignork: yes dogeparty is just counterparty on doge, but like i said, much more useful than ethereum 768190;1406253874;mircea_popescu;decimation the funny thing about the incident is that everyone happily ignored the "your business part" and took it as gospel. "the importance of brand over quality" 768191;1406253878;DreadKnight;cazalla, scrub player? haha 768192;1406253885;cazalla;DreadKnight, it does have the same idiots who kill steal, play wrong lane, afk etc etc 768193;1406253904;dignork;pigeons: hard to compare really, trash vs. garbage :) 768194;1406253908;cazalla;so you message the good ones, start playing together, build synergy, you won't start with it from game 1 768195;1406253935;DreadKnight;cazalla, it has less things to deal with, but yeah; I hate the account system, region limitation, runes and summoner spells needing levels, LoL requires purchase of champions, basically limits you to constantly play the same 2-3 champs most of the time 768196;1406253968;decimation;yeah for instance you could hang a sign above a gasoline station saying "Gasoline is dirty" and business would not change 768197;1406254033;mircea_popescu;;;google "hello suckers" 768198;1406254034;gribble;Hello Suckers!: Investing into Stocks: ; Texas Guinan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Hello, Suckers | The Weekly Standard: 768199;1406254037;cazalla;DreadKnight, it doesn't require purchase of champs at all unless you're adhd and won't stick to one role 768200;1406254063;DreadKnight;cazalla, lost a lot of games in LoL while beating the whole enemy team by myself; all mobas basically have the same issues, but LoL has a few more on top of that 768201;1406254112;danielpbarron;DreadKnight, i used to play all-stars; now i play dota2 768202;1406254137;cazalla;you're gonna lose games, even the top players only have 2:1 win/loss ratios 768203;1406254195;DreadKnight;it's rare that I win a game because of another team mate; I usually get really annoyed and tell people what are doing wrong, but not many listen 768204;1406254236;DreadKnight;forgot to mention noob team mates getting shadow blade in dota2 while there's already an invis carry in the team; or picking multiple invisible heroes *sigh* 768205;1406254244;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight you're prolly not gonna be happy or even willing to hear this, but it sounds like the problem is you. 768206;1406254269;thestringpuller;have we really gone from talking about world news to LoL in all of 20 minutes? 768207;1406254296;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, I'm not the problem, the game sets me up with weirdos most of the time and it's bad for my health; I don't always have semi decent team mates online to play with 768208;1406254302;danielpbarron;i have fun playing dota2; my brother plays, and a few of his friends 768209;1406254323;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller way it goes. 768210;1406254331;DreadKnight;it's fun as long as you got team or don't take it seriously / not play too often 768211;1406254350;DreadKnight;anyway, don't really care to debate mobas at this hour 768212;1406254357;danielpbarron;yeah; I don't play that often anymore 768213;1406254390;cazalla;DreadKnight, ragequit more 768214;1406254412;DreadKnight;cazalla, is that your solution? :)) 768215;1406254435;cazalla;no, not caring to debate at this hour = ragequit 768216;1406254447;DreadKnight;thought it was advice 768217;1406254473;DreadKnight;no, just that some people around are not into mobas and feel like we're boring or offtopic, I respect not playing moba 768218;1406254474;BingoBoingo;My favorite part of Eve online is that anyone not explicitly an ally is a potential adversary. 768219;1406254504;danielpbarron;;; 768220;1406254531;DreadKnight;started watching that Welcome to the Dollhouse movie someone recommended around xD 768221;1406254539;danielpbarron;;;rate DreadKnight 1 plays dota2. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#768204 768222;1406254540;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 768223;1406254541;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DreadKnight has been recorded. 768224;1406254643;DreadKnight;might end up writing a moba do's and don'ts guide 768225;1406254863;decimation;"brand over quality" is also an artifact of the dillution of fiat ownership 768226;1406254882;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight got a blog ? 768227;1406254936;decimation;"Consumer price indexes show negligible price changes in non-normalized accounting, not only because they are fudged and rigged, but because prices are set by dollars competing for goods. Because American spenders have fewer and fewer normalized dollars to spend every year, normalized consumer prices are also dropping. " - Mr. moldbug 768228;1406254945;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, used to, but got popular faster then I expected and hacked a few times without backup; might get back into writing soon, without using wordpress this time 768229;1406255013;mircea_popescu;wordpress is fine, i've used it for > 5 years without issue. 768230;1406255096;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: Wordpress is fine if used with caution appropriate for an application of its kind. 768231;1406255112;DreadKnight;made my own little blog system, no users accounts or databases, using files instead, will put it to good use soon, mircea_popescu 768232;1406255124;mircea_popescu;or that. 768233;1406255145;decimation;statelessness has a quality all its own 768234;1406255147;DreadKnight;well, didn't knew much about security back then, wasn't protecting the log-in page too well against common stuff 768235;1406255272;mircea_popescu;well then. bruteforced shit pws aren't a hack. 768236;1406255274;mircea_popescu;!up lordbunson 768237;1406255290;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight also see http://trilema.com/2012/romanian-dicelist/ 768238;1406255292;assbot;Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768239;1406255308;DreadKnight;true, but it would have been nice if wp had a timer to avoid that kind of abuse, mircea_popescu 768240;1406255339;DreadKnight;average user hears a lot of WP, but doesn't know about bruteforce and strong passwords 768241;1406255426;DreadKnight;got my own algorithm for strong passwords that are unique and that I can actually remember and type for a while now 768242;1406255448;DreadKnight;but parents don't want to share the ideology xD 768243;1406255454;mircea_popescu;homebrew crypto is often dangerous. 768244;1406255459;DreadKnight;I mean make use of it* 768245;1406255495;DreadKnight;nothing sucks more than typing a strong password on a touch screen device. 768246;1406255500;BingoBoingo; but parents don't want to share the ideology xD << Wait, how old are you? 768247;1406255536;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, 27, but since I'm into tech, parents learned a bit from me, both are using linux for years now 768248;1406255536;BingoBoingo;!up darlidada 768249;1406255561;DreadKnight;I meant that they're not keen on complex / strong passwords 768250;1406255616;DreadKnight;seen a chart with most popular passwords... 123456 and password being top entries xD 768251;1406255621;mircea_popescu;"but parents don't want to share the ideology xD" <=> "i'm happy with it but i can't get my parents to use it themselves" ? 768252;1406255637;DreadKnight;http://splashdata.com/press/worstpasswords2013.htm 768253;1406255638;assbot;"Password" unseated by "123456" on SplashData’s annual "Worst Passwords" list 768254;1406255674;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: Well, why are you giving your parents passwords to infrastructure? 768255;1406255730;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, I didn't said their passwords 768256;1406255770;DreadKnight;just saying that a lot of non-tech / older people tend to use weak passwords 768257;1406256112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00082018 = 26.5738 BTC [+] {2} 768258;1406256280;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: traffic should resemble people exchanging gpg messages maybe << this only works if two nodes have some 'wot' relationship. 768259;1406256286;nubbins`;hmm 768260;1406256289;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: otherwise trivial mitm. 768261;1406256301;nubbins`;just doing up the books for july, seems we have a mystery cash surplus of $666 768262;1406256302;nubbins`;:0 768263;1406256327;decimation;consider replacing irc with message passing 768264;1406256335;decimation;how do you coordinate who knows whom? 768265;1406256359;decimation;either a central server or a universal blockchain 768266;1406256363;asciilifeform;people tend to use weak passwords << this - and the famous experiment where a psychologist purchased office planktons' passwords with chocolate - is a fundamental result of people not giving a fuck. not a technical problem. 768267;1406256399;asciilifeform;obligatory: 768268;1406256402;asciilifeform;!s shall be delivered 768269;1406256403;assbot;15 results for 'shall be delivered' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shall+be+delivered 768270;1406256423;asciilifeform;when it turns into 'lose password and die' - some people will begin to give a fuck. 768271;1406256430;decimation;well, in that case the primary risk is the university's computer system 768272;1406256440;decimation;why should some freshman care about taxpayer assets? 768273;1406256448;mircea_popescu;nubbins`> just doing up the books for july, seems we have a mystery cash surplus of $666 << you have been clearly blessed. now if the lady's late... 768274;1406256481;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform gpg has built in key signing for this reason. 768275;1406256492;mircea_popescu;decimation ^ 768276;1406256510;asciilifeform;how does key signing play into this ? 768277;1406256537;mircea_popescu;if presented with traffic from alleged key, i expect it to be signed by keys i already accepted. 768278;1406256562;asciilifeform;that's the basic 'wot' idea, yes. 768279;1406256566;mircea_popescu;also, people not giving a fuck is a major technical proble, 768280;1406256572;asciilifeform;what won't work is - any node out of the box can talk to any other. 768281;1406256579;mircea_popescu;the core reason for it is that the species must perpetuate. this hinges on women not really giving a fuck. 768282;1406256581;asciilifeform;in such a scenario, stego is useless 768283;1406256591;mircea_popescu;as women started giving a fuck, fertility melted away. 768284;1406256658;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform merely the fact that i reject the message doesn't say nanything about its validity. 768285;1406256665;mircea_popescu;merely it's unacceptability to me. 768286;1406256702;decimation;https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/lee-kuan-yew-drains-your-brains-for-short-term-gain/ 768287;1406256703;assbot;Lee Kuan Yew drains your brains for short term gain | Bloody shovel 768288;1406256705;asciilifeform;well ostensibly purpose of stego is 'dr evil can't tell if x is a node' 768289;1406256748;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and how can he ? 768290;1406256820;mircea_popescu;To have a nation, you must have people and you must have young people to be able to drive the economy and young people buy the products all these gadgets and fine dining and if you dont have that, and you refuse migrants as the Japanese do, you will just dissolve into nothingness! I think before that comes, they may change (their) policy. << a country which doesn't have enough gullible fools is not use 768291;1406256820;mircea_popescu;ful to the bezzlers, which means IT DOESNT EXIST O NOES 768292;1406256853;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: well, the only scenario where he can't is where a node only replies to 'friend', otherwise ignores. 768293;1406256868;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform node never replies. 768294;1406256869;decimation;along the same vein 768295;1406256876;mircea_popescu;why would a node ever reply ? 768296;1406256881;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: right. hence 'wotcoin.' 768297;1406256885;decimation;http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/#more-3088 "How many bright Indians and bright Chinese are there, Harry? Surely they are not infinite. And what will they do in Singapore? Well, engage in the finance and marketing rat-race and depress their fertility to 0.78, wasting valuable genes just so your property prices don?t go down. Singapore is an IQ shredder." 768298;1406256888;assbot;Outside in - Involvements with reality » Blog Archive » IQ Shredders 768299;1406256921;asciilifeform;why would a node ever reply >> if you're fetching blockchain state, vs. pushing tx 768300;1406256922;mircea_popescu;decimation this is a valid point. if i hadn't had trilema and all i did was finance i'd probably hang myself 768301;1406256930;mircea_popescu;like all the people falling on a nail gun from the 9th floor 768302;1406256953;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you shouldn't need a node for state. 768303;1406256954;copumpkin;:O 768304;1406256965;mircea_popescu;you should be able to reconstruct state on your own from the sea so to speak 768305;1406257057;nubbins`;aha! found it 768306;1406257064;nubbins`;now we're only a mystery $15 over 768307;1406257087;nubbins`;which isn't much of a mystery at all 768308;1406257170;asciilifeform;japan/migrants << we'll know jp is done as a going concern when they give up and let the devils in 768309;1406257229;decimation;I think most of them would rather die then let that happen 768310;1406257233;mircea_popescu;i know a guy who moved to japan and got citizenship, i know a guy who married a very pretty japanese rosebud and settled in yurp 768311;1406257235;decimation;which might be the case 768312;1406257248;mircea_popescu;the situation in the field has justabout 0 to do with the zerohedge-esque nonsense therein discussed. 768313;1406257280;mircea_popescu;there's this cracked.com v2.0 set of websites, which pretty much live off internet-hyperbole. 768314;1406257283;asciilifeform;guy who moved to japan and got citizenship << contrary to popular belief, this is not impossible - but about same level of difficulty as getting tenured professorship at a big uni 768315;1406257299;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not that big. 768316;1406257314;mircea_popescu;i'd say it's much easier to get japanese citizenship than bitcoin citizenship 768317;1406257319;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, so why buenos aires? "permanent"? 768318;1406257323;mircea_popescu;yes. 768319;1406257332;mircea_popescu;well, permanent. i don't do permanent, i do a few years. 768320;1406257339;asciilifeform;if i recall, you need to be very popular with the locals, collect signatures, demonstrate cash flow, etc. 768321;1406257347;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ikr ? 768322;1406257370;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, figured, that's why the quotes; job there? 768323;1406257396;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight you're talking to the only romanian billionaire. i don't jobs. 768324;1406257409;asciilifeform;incidentally, in jp it is not only legal but routine to refuse real estate deal, rentals, work, etc. to white devil. 768325;1406257425;asciilifeform;some foreigners (usa) find this very surprising 768326;1406257429;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not really from what i hear. 768327;1406257436;mircea_popescu;it is routine to refuse to deal with idiots tho 768328;1406257442;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, considered that scenario as well, nice :) 768329;1406257443;mircea_popescu;i guess some foreigners conflate the two. 768330;1406257453;*;asciilifeform last informed on the subject many years ago 768331;1406257468;BingoBoingo;I need to find someone who can introduce me to one of those Chinese agencies which rents out designated white people 768332;1406257471;decimation;almost every country will welcome you if you have enough money 768333;1406257511;asciilifeform;decimation: don't confuse buying passport with making friends 768334;1406257511;mircea_popescu;decimation there's exactly two ways : one's wealth and the ability to select and hire local helpers. the other's deep knowledge and an ability to select and persuade local patrons. 768335;1406257521;mircea_popescu;you can be a scholar or you can be a merchant. what you can't be is a consumer 768336;1406257534;mircea_popescu;nobody wants those. this is surprising to nobody outside of us folk i would think. 768337;1406257596;BingoBoingo; nobody wants those. this is surprising to nobody outside of us folk i would think. << Well considering that most US local and state level economic development projects consist of efforts to attract and create consumers... Yeah 768338;1406257619;asciilifeform;i can picture a scenario where random bozos are invited in, but with the understanding of... biodiesel, if they don't make themselves otherwise useful 768339;1406257622;asciilifeform;a la dubai. 768340;1406257627;BingoBoingo;No US town wants a factory to be useful, they want it because it employees consumers 768341;1406257661;decimation;are you saying rich fools are unwelcome ? 768342;1406257690;mircea_popescu;decimation try a mental experiment. consider very insular, outsider-hating middle america community. consider you show up there and lavish new york mannerisms and expectations upon them. lynch mob is unsurprising. consider oppositely you show up there and display an intimate knowledge of the various blood feuds underpinning their social system. suddenly everyone wants you over for sunday dinner. 768343;1406257708;decimation;yeah good point 768344;1406257710;BingoBoingo; are you saying rich fools are unwelcome ? << Rich fools are a resource to harvest like any other until the simply become fools 768345;1406257710;mircea_popescu;decimation yes. rich fools are dangerous in the manner of the weak tower discussed earlier. 768346;1406257719;mircea_popescu;nobody really wants them that's sane. 768347;1406257741;asciilifeform;rich fool can go to the diesel pot when he goes broke, but in the meantime can work various evils 768348;1406257770;asciilifeform;!s skyscraper 768349;1406257771;assbot;17 results for 'skyscraper' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=skyscraper 768350;1406257809;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, is your billionaire status related to bitcoins? 768351;1406257817;mircea_popescu;well yes 768352;1406257826;asciilifeform;what rich fools built? example - today's usa. 768353;1406257833;BingoBoingo;;;google romanian billionaire openbsd 768354;1406257834;gribble;Romanian Billionaire Saves OpenBSD | Bingo Blog: ; Romanian Bitcoin Billionaire saves OpenBSD : Bitcoin - Reddit: ; 19-1-2014 Romanian Bitcoin Billionaire saves OpenBSD - Bitcoin Forum: (1 more message) 768355;1406257834;decimation;the us is rich in rich fools, and this explains much of the common us mentality 768356;1406257866;mircea_popescu;decimation you familiar with the "the best way to sink a good start-up is a bad revenue source early on" quip ? 768357;1406257878;mircea_popescu;(it's not mine, i just put graham's idea in better wording) 768358;1406257897;decimation;yeah one observes this daily in the vc circus 768359;1406257905;mircea_popescu;well what are rich fools. 768360;1406257941;decimation;"branding over quality" 768361;1406257985;mircea_popescu;suppose rich fools (in the shape of oversexed, misguided older us women) show up in africa, with a cohort of young, undersexed male followers 768362;1406257991;mircea_popescu;they have the money to wreck communities, and they do. 768363;1406257998;mircea_popescu;i actually saw this in the act. 768364;1406258014;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, that shows some proof of the status, but not how it came to be or maybe I'm missing something? Like OpenBSD being put to good use after... :) 768365;1406258023;mircea_popescu;(in guatemala, not in africa, but same principle.) 768366;1406258031;BingoBoingo;decimation: It isn't just the VC circus. Successful builder finds life better than ever, then buys expensive farmland to build several suburbs for people like himself and goes broke. 768367;1406258056;decimation;meanwhile the landscape is now permanently spammed with houses, which decay 768368;1406258057;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, nvm title already contains "billionaire" 768369;1406258059;asciilifeform;Rich fools are a resource to harvest like any other until the simply become fools << dollar in the hands of billionaire is not the same as dollar in the hands of a mere mortal. just like a gram of dirt in orbit is not the same as same gram in a moon. 'quantity has a quality of its own.' 768370;1406258072;mircea_popescu;^ 768371;1406258092;mircea_popescu;you may think that glucose is what powers life 768372;1406258108;mircea_popescu;however a half pound glucose crystal is about as perishable as plastic. 768373;1406258141;BingoBoingo;Well historically most candied things were produced as a way to preserve various foods. 768374;1406258167;BingoBoingo;Much like NaCL 768375;1406258174;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: ancient egyptian honey, famously - still edible. 768376;1406258190;decimation;destruction is so much easier than construction: therefore spending money constructively is more difficult than spending money destructively 768377;1406258205;BingoBoingo;Concentration decides whether it is a nutrient or a preservative hostile to invasive life. 768378;1406258244;mircea_popescu;ie, quantity has a quality all of its own 768379;1406258285;asciilifeform;landscape is now permanently spammed with houses << 1km or so from where i sit, thousands of condos are being built. many already put to market; not 1 in 10 is inhabited. 768380;1406258304;decimation;ascii, how much would you say you have spent building an electronics assembly house? in my neck of the woods, it's common wisdom that such assembly machines are so expensive that they cannot possibly repay themselves 768381;1406258317;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Similar here, but instead of condos "McMansions" 768382;1406258348;decimation;heh there's also the original: Bowie's levittown 768383;1406258363;asciilifeform;decimation: very little. and nothing at all from the s.nsa piggy has gone for tooling. 768384;1406258418;decimation;I guess it depends on your requirements. if you really must build 8 layer pcbs with blind vias, the equipment to accomplish that is going to cost orders of magnitude more than dual-layer stuff 768385;1406258422;asciilifeform;decimation: what little (semi) automation i have in mind, is simply to eliminate problems with prototype assembly quality (vs design) from consideration during test. 768386;1406258437;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform here's something for you. who said 'Death solves all problems - no man, no problem.' ? 768387;1406258451;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: supposedly stalin, but in point of fact it was a fictional stalin. 768388;1406258454;BingoBoingo;Asystole is the most stable heart rhythym 768389;1406258460;mircea_popescu;right! 768390;1406258490;asciilifeform;decimation: i've no intention of producing pcb per se at home. at this point it is in fact more expensive than chicom boards with proper solder mask, plating, etc. 768391;1406258543;asciilifeform;decimation: i occasionally etch simple 2-layer boards in kitchen, but only for quick experiments (e.g. studying particular smt component) 768392;1406258549;decimation;right, pcbs are a different matter I suppose. I'm not so sure that assembly must be so expensive, given that the pcb is outsourced 768393;1406258584;decimation;if you buy golden toliet pick 'n' place and fancy solder tools I guess it becomes extremely expensive 768394;1406258603;asciilifeform;decimation: assembly for small runs is ruinously expensive, and has logistical issues (where do the parts come from? who purchases? is there a vig?) 768395;1406258727;decimation;the real issue is that you need a non-drug-addicted human to run the machines 768396;1406258735;decimation;and do rework when required 768397;1406258985;decimation;ascii have you driven on "MD200" (the ICC) 768398;1406258998;decimation;monument to spamming roads/homes pointlessly around landscape 768399;1406259065;BingoBoingo;Ah, around here one need not drive on a fancy road to find spammed homes. Even the barely paved have domicile spam. 768400;1406259315;BingoBoingo;http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140724094043 768401;1406259315;assbot;Minimalist HTTP Daemon Activated in Base 768402;1406259466;decimation;is it going to replace bloated apache? 768403;1406259523;BingoBoingo;decimation: They already cut Apache from base in favor of nginx, this is more it seems a still more basic alternative to nginx for people that desire it 768404;1406259571;DreadKnight;I still hope that someday php will be usable system wide, like python, not just in a specific directory 768405;1406259611;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: It can already be used like the question though is why? 768406;1406259614;BingoBoingo;===== 768407;1406259650;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, portability and easier workflow 768408;1406259693;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: What is insufficiently portable about C, python, Julia, Fortran 77, or Scheme? 768409;1406259706;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, I'm talking php 768410;1406259727;DreadKnight;python is fine 768411;1406259775;BingoBoingo;DreadKnight: I know you want to talk about ======== php, but... What use would you find about an HTML generation language that would make it great for the whole system? 768412;1406259817;BingoBoingo;I'm just curious, also a little bit drunk and trollish for full disclosure. 768413;1406259854;DreadKnight;BingoBoingo, I could just share source code with someone and it would be easier for him to run it; I could start working on a dynamically generated website on my computer in any folder 768414;1406259910;BingoBoingo;I'm just trying to get over PHP is your prefered language and Bending Wordpress to your will seems intimidating. 768415;1406259911;DreadKnight;when it comes to linux and php, if you want to work inside dropbox as well, you have to deal with symlink, permission rights, logic and such 768416;1406259928;BingoBoingo;Is dropbox still a thing? 768417;1406259950;DreadKnight;I'm using git inside dropbox while working on websites 768418;1406259969;DreadKnight;why wouldn't dropbox still be a thing? :P 768419;1406259981;DreadKnight;not everyone will use amazon cloud thing 768420;1406260003;DreadKnight;ec2* 768421;1406260025;BingoBoingo;Wait Amazon is still a thing too??? 768422;1406260060;DreadKnight;good thing you made a disclaimer earlier :D 768423;1406260085;mircea_popescu;julia ?! 768424;1406260116;DreadKnight;ikr 768425;1406260121;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight php is not too popular here, following a total bashing it got a few months ago over some bizarre design choices and (i suspect) the fact tux loved it. 768426;1406260164;DreadKnight;considering ditching it for python myself just because python doesn't care about a special folder 768427;1406260177;mircea_popescu;how does php care about a special folder ? 768428;1406260190;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Julia's some clojure like re-LISPening that is apparently getting played with in HPC and science computing circles 768429;1406260200;DreadKnight;on linux you need to have stuff in that /var/www or do some symlinking 768430;1406260205;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i know but i mean... portability right ? 768431;1406260238;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight you mean so apache will serve the pages remotely ? 768432;1406260245;DreadKnight;could probably change some setting, but not many will do that 768433;1406260259;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, want to generate pages locally 768434;1406260260;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I just guessing off of the name that Julia has a vagina API call, and vaginas are accomodating to nearly anything given sufficient time to warm up 768435;1406260763;asciilifeform;php << why ?! 768436;1406260809;asciilifeform;decimation: md200 << aye. i even have the rfid billing gizmo just for it. 768437;1406260907;DreadKnight;php, because recursive acronyms >_< 768438;1406260966;decimation;most of the land for md200 was donated by local DC land baron to build Konterra 768439;1406260970;decimation;ie townhomes in swamps 768440;1406260997;asciilifeform;decimation: the remainder - confiscated from a few hundred unfortunates. 768441;1406261026;asciilifeform;the whole dc region is a gigantic swamp. 768442;1406261036;asciilifeform;point of fact: i've seen bitterns here. 768443;1406261049;decimation;after spending $3 billion to build road, the gov't managers said that the 4-foot trail next to the road would be "too expensive" to complete 768444;1406261054;decimation;ie trail to nowhere 768445;1406261161;decimation;go into debt building roads they can't afford while failing to provision for a future when no one can afford cars 768446;1406261242;asciilifeform;decimation: an asphalt road is far from any kind of permanent edifice. gets reclaimed by the jungle after just a few years of neglect. so don't expect to hear any talk of 'future' anything. 768447;1406261256;mircea_popescu;decimation this is an unfair observation. who in the us has the authority to actually take these facts in hand and make a decision ? 768448;1406261271;decimation;I've been seeking such a person for years 768449;1406261273;mircea_popescu;the way a country of "laws not men" works is by definition that unless it stumbles into sense, it will thread stupidity. 768450;1406261278;decimation;as far as I can tell, doesn't exist 768451;1406261317;decimation;if an alient landed in nebraska and said "take me to your leader", would the alien be disappointed with whomever appears? 768452;1406261378;decimation;Re: asphalt roads - in germany they build only with concrete for highways afaik 768453;1406261434;asciilifeform;i hear they even eat real - non-recycled - food, there. 768454;1406261460;decimation;"it's okay for you" 768455;1406261463;mircea_popescu;this is not true 768456;1406261467;mircea_popescu;autobahn is asphalt mostly. 768457;1406261529;mircea_popescu;ZTV Asphalt-tr 07/ZTV Beton-StB 07 being the relevant standards, if anyone's curious. 768458;1406261549;asciilifeform;swamp land of dc << example. moved to new place recently. even the garden shed has... air conditioner. 768459;1406261555;decimation;I suspect that they are more substantially graded than us highways 768460;1406261577;decimation;well, with 95% humidity at 95 degrees F what do you suspect 768461;1406261592;asciilifeform;in summer, tropical hell, like the venus of old sf stories 768462;1406261788;decimation;at least in new york they get sea breezes 768463;1406261804;decimation;washington dc is one of the least habitable zones on the east coast 768464;1406261893;decimation;soon dc will once again have strange tropical mosquito-bourne illness: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/concerned-mosquito-born-chikungunya-virus/ 768465;1406261893;assbot;How concerned should we be about the mosquito-borne Chikungunya virus? | PBS NewsHour 768466;1406261922;asciilifeform;decimation: you need a non-drug-addicted human to run the machines << when it comes to it - one can run the machines in person. if one is truly serious. 768467;1406261982;decimation;that comes down to a trade-off between development and production 768468;1406262001;decimation;but extremely valuable information is to be gained by doing both 768469;1406262008;asciilifeform;given the nature of the product, there are also other considerations. 768470;1406262075;decimation;true, in the case of security hardware 768471;1406262129;asciilifeform;regardless of where the production gizmos end up baking, the 'breath of life' will have to be breathed into them right here. 768472;1406262212;asciilifeform;(everybody gets a unique firmware. as described in the prospectus.) 768473;1406262456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.1599002 = 1.9188 BTC [+] {6} 768474;1406262822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.16 = 2.4 BTC [+] 768475;1406263124;BingoBoingo;%d 768476;1406263125;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 637338.21 in 1183 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -7.25 768477;1406263127;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 768478;1406263130;gribble;Current Blocks: 312366 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 113 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 12 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18728951524.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.03305 768479;1406264061;BingoBoingo;!up DollyDear 768480;1406264407;DollyDear;!ticker mpex 768481;1406264407;assbot;Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. 768482;1406264426;DollyDear;!ticker h sdice 768483;1406264426;assbot;Quest for vision is a great blessing. 768484;1406264559;kakobrekla;you need some help 768485;1406264561;kakobrekla;? 768486;1406264587;DollyDear;maybe 768487;1406265961;BingoBoingo;!Up DollyDear 768488;1406265977;BingoBoingo;!t m s.mpoe 768489;1406265977;assbot;You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. 768490;1406267343;cazalla;me too 768491;1406268741;BingoBoingo;Somebody get this man a buttcoin http://deadspin.com/gm-gets-prostate-exam-in-stadium-sings-take-me-out-to-1610657985 768492;1406268742;assbot;GM Gets Prostate Exam In Stadium, Sings "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" 768493;1406269166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00081818 = 23.3999 BTC [-] {2} 768494;1406269615;BingoBoingo;!up CHRIX 768495;1406269739;mircea_popescu;!last s.wol 768496;1406269739;assbot;It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. 768497;1406269763;BingoBoingo;Doge distractions http://pocketmonster.kotaku.com/one-mans-five-year-quest-for-a-shiny-pokemon-1603763304 768498;1406269764;assbot;One Man's Five-Year Quest To Find A Shiny Pokmon 768499;1406269793;mircea_popescu;!last m s.wol 768500;1406269793;assbot;Last trade for S.WOL on MPEX was at 0.00008888 BTC [+] 768501;1406269812;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c isn't that "long life and prosperity" in chinese ? 768502;1406269812;gribble;The operation succeeded. 768503;1406269828;mircea_popescu;!up lordbunson 768504;1406269925;mircea_popescu;"O'Connell went through this process whenever he could, be it while he was watching TV or surfing the internet. He estimates that he's reset the game maybe over 100,000 times, with over five hundred hours dedicated to this single consuming task." 768505;1406269935;mircea_popescu;am i to be impressed that somebody did something for 500 hours ? 768506;1406269985;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I'm moe dumfounded that he didn't just fck the rng to favor him 768507;1406269986;cazalla;i'll ask my brother, he held WR for fastest complete on pokemon red for gameboy 768508;1406270011;BingoBoingo;Or hexeditor on the ROM 768509;1406270049;BingoBoingo;500 hours is more than enough time to make a perfect cheat on such a sumb platform 768510;1406270061;mircea_popescu;i've definitely spent more than 500 hours whipping slaves over the past decade 768511;1406270065;mircea_popescu;doesn't seem like a big deal. 768512;1406270083;BingoBoingo;whipping slaves is it's own reward 768513;1406270125;BingoBoingo;Dude thoug adopted the Doger-aspie mentality of I want X, but only via route Y. 768514;1406270145;BingoBoingo;Case study in why etherium prolly won 768515;1406270150;BingoBoingo;'t ship 768516;1406270170;mircea_popescu;hm 768517;1406270291;BingoBoingo;It isn't amazing that he accomplished something. It is amazing he took such a fail path to do so for so long. 768518;1406270291;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 768519;1406270538;BingoBoingo;Anyone can imagine they've done anything if they smash their head into a cinder block until they have the cognitive funtion of an oyster 768520;1406270571;mircea_popescu;i don't think oysters imagine 768521;1406270610;BingoBoingo;Pretty sure oysters are or at least should count as vegan 768522;1406270637;BingoBoingo;Being as far as they are from anything else that might vaguely be considered an animal 768523;1406270721;mircea_popescu;hm, now that'd be a character : a gaudy hipster that identifies as vegan and chains oysters 768524;1406270888;BingoBoingo;Well, if I settled next to the sea I figured I'd call myself vegetarian and eat hundreds of oysters a day for the trollz 768525;1406270891;fluffypony;oysters are delicious 768526;1406271074;mircea_popescu;fresh they're pretty good yeah 768527;1406271087;mircea_popescu;but it's by far the most sensitive to pollution/freshness food there is 768528;1406271092;fluffypony;yep 768529;1406271106;fluffypony;we have the Knysna Oyster Festival every year around the corner from us 768530;1406271112;fluffypony;so this is oyster country 768531;1406271151;mircea_popescu;ah 768532;1406271154;mircea_popescu;well that helps 768533;1406271233;BingoBoingo;They ship here pretty well from clean waters. Helps that oysters are rather robust for shellfish. 768534;1406271450;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Pearl_Oysters.jpg < those are some pretty pearls. 768535;1406271614;BingoBoingo;Indeed rather large as well. Getting enough that size for a strand would be one of (expensive, a pain in the ass) 768536;1406271778;mircea_popescu;lol that day when romanian newspapers actually buy google adwords exposure on your name. 768537;1406271817;BingoBoingo;Is that today? 768538;1406271899;BingoBoingo;https://www.koofers.com/drexel-university/instructors/popescu-698283/ 768539;1406271900;assbot;Mircea Popescu: Rate Professor: Drexel (DU): Koofers 768540;1406271913;mircea_popescu;it's today 768541;1406272162;BingoBoingo;;;google mircea popescu adwords 768542;1406272163;gribble;Mai 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema ...: ; 150+ Negative Keywords for Software Selling AdWords Campaigns ...: 768543;1406272223;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/random-weird-shit/#comment-103226 768544;1406272224;assbot;Random weird shit pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768545;1406272247;BingoBoingo;lol 768546;1406272317;mircea_popescu;also the various eth threads all over are pretty lulzy 768547;1406272318;mircea_popescu;https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7432&start=0 768548;1406272319;assbot;Ripple Forum • View topic - Ethereum seems to start selling their native currency 768549;1406272324;mircea_popescu;"Somehow I managed to partially recover from my Ripple loss, I don't think I will invest in anything else but bitcoin in the future." 768550;1406272375;mircea_popescu;derp : "omfg they got 5k btc this is so important". older generation derp : "ripple claimed the same thing, a year later they have nothing to show for it" 768551;1406272477;BingoBoingo;At least Ripple had the courtesy to give away their fail tokens at the start. Basically the Ether terms are then can funnel up to 5kilo BTC back into "development" with the net effect they can Burn 5000 btc in this sale and relaim them later as "expenses" 768552;1406272799;BingoBoingo;Anything Eth gets beyond the initial 5 kilo BTC might be outside interest 768553;1406272929;mircea_popescu;http://www.helpareporter.com/sources 768554;1406272930;assbot;Become a News Source HARO Publicity Alerts - Help a Reporter Out - Help a Reporter Out 768555;1406272933;mircea_popescu;this is maybe an interesting concept 768556;1406272970;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it'd logically be the 5k it originaly got. anything it gets past 5k past the 5k would be outside interest. 768557;1406273037;mircea_popescu;%d 768558;1406273039;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 635045.23 in 1166 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -7.59 768559;1406273156;BingoBoingo;Altcoin as usual is the perfect contrast because dev costs are already sunk and minimal. Instead what ATC has are long term commitments to buy it. 768560;1406273310;mircea_popescu;seems so. 768561;1406273800;BingoBoingo;This is a moral failing of Doge and Ether 768562;1406273827;BingoBoingo;That they pray for mysterious outside benefactors to bless them with value 768563;1406273967;mircea_popescu;that's a way to look at it yeah. 768564;1406274341;BingoBoingo;It's related to a sort of spamvestment scheme traditionally oriented towards targeting doctors. 768565;1406274357;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40 sorta braindamaged explanation that's nevertheless fundamentally correct. 768566;1406274357;assbot;Edgar the Exploiter - YouTube 768567;1406274412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30747 @ 0.00081628 = 25.0982 BTC [-] {2} 768568;1406274611;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bmiev/my_favorite_thing_about_buttcoiners/ << le butthurtz 768569;1406274612;assbot;My favorite thing about buttcoiners : Buttcoin 768570;1406274994;BingoBoingo;Right now a big piece of spam when I listen to the radio is "Own your own oil well" commercials targeting accredited investors. 768571;1406275015;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2blwn1/i_honestly_dont_care_about_many_laws_put_around/cj6s0ar << the lithuanian guy has a point. 768572;1406275016;assbot;PureApeshit comments on I honestly don't care about many laws put around Bitcoin. The funny thing is I'm your average American next door neighbor. 768573;1406275047;mircea_popescu;i ran a town, it was a pleasure to live in. for everyone except the buttcoiners, of course (the dumbass kids that go for postdocs in the us didn't exist) and the feminists (the dumbass womenz also didn't exist). 768574;1406275062;mircea_popescu;so basically anarchy works for everyone but reddit. 768575;1406275159;fluffypony;the amount of ignoreance is too damn high: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708883.0 768576;1406275159;assbot;NAMECOIN 2.O + IPO 768577;1406275177;BingoBoingo;"I can see this working for a limited amount of time, in small communities. But who is going to build a $3 Billion bridge and regulate the quality of the engineering? Donations? What will keep greedy companies from paying desperate workers $2/hour, which is what is happening right now in countries with less regulation." Ferries are still a thing 768578;1406275236;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bmbmi/the_tyranny_of_structurelessness_and_why/ << meanwhile social sciences redditard is stumbling on the concept of bitcoin-as-acutally-is deductively. 768579;1406275236;assbot;"The Tyranny of Structurelessness" and Why Decentralization Isn't All It's Cracked Up to Bean essay. : Buttcoin 768580;1406275262;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo he failks to comprehend that the bridge in question does not in fact cost 3bn 768581;1406275273;mircea_popescu;it only costs 3bn if a particular type of sucker (us govt) is buying it. 768582;1406275281;mircea_popescu;mobsters don't pay retail, let alone golden toilet prices. 768583;1406275334;mircea_popescu;fluffypony wtf bs is this, imagetext ? 768584;1406275341;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: ikr 768585;1406275379;BingoBoingo;There's probably a few places in the world where a bridge might cost 3 billion honestly, but... 768586;1406275400;BingoBoingo;Generally those aren't places that need bridges 768587;1406275421;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo 3bn is at current prices 85 tons of gold 768588;1406275426;mircea_popescu;is this bridge MADE out of gold ? 768589;1406275484;xmj;BingoBoingo: long bridges are expensive 768590;1406275490;mircea_popescu;if someone made a sterling silver lifesized replica of the golden gate, it'd still not be 3bn. 768591;1406275491;xmj;especially the ones across belts, and stuff 768592;1406275495;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, connecting Hawaiian or Aleutian island with Bridges, i.e. places that don't need bridges 768593;1406275511;mircea_popescu;yeah well. 768594;1406275535;mircea_popescu;actually i am wrong : gg is like 1mn tons. 768595;1406275606;mircea_popescu;that'd be 200ish mn for the steel alone. 768596;1406275656;BingoBoingo;Golden toilet prices of $695 mil deliver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Musial_Veterans_Memorial_Bridge and the road surface isn't even smooth but the most charitable definition 768597;1406275656;assbot;Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 768598;1406275690;mircea_popescu;turns out it cost like 20mn to build back a century ago. 768599;1406275733;BingoBoingo;Inflation, too many dollars, etc 768600;1406275888;BingoBoingo;Now it takes longer to name a bridge than build it 768601;1406275963;mircea_popescu;anyway, the monthly delving in the trials and tribulations of the reality-is-people folk has been most rewarding. 768602;1406276017;mircea_popescu;fluffypony that idiocy aside, an actual namecoin that actually worked well'd be a pretty good thing. 768603;1406276023;fluffypony;yes 768604;1406276025;fluffypony;I agree 768605;1406276034;fluffypony;they definitely won't be the ones to do it, though :-P 768606;1406276043;mircea_popescu;problem is, someone needs to put first tier resolver servers online. 768607;1406276067;mircea_popescu;which isn't THAT expensive to do, but it does require a puppet-master sysadmin type to start it all 768608;1406276073;mircea_popescu;we've been waiting for that guy since 2012. 768609;1406276108;mircea_popescu;ironically, for all the bitching, wailing and thrashing of insignificant subhumans on reddits and forums, there is A TON of free space right at the top, and for years i've just been waiting for people to come and claim their spot. 768610;1406276143;mircea_popescu;just... the ability of being actually useful is a lot rarer than the ability to down a special interest studies read list and then derp around in circles. 768611;1406276208;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many of these fucktarded kids realise that a) domestic animals could "learn" the bullshit they've "learned" and b) that automatically means it ain't fucking worth bothering with. 768612;1406276489;mircea_popescu;but anyway, that's all for me. tomorro. 768613;1406276497;BingoBoingo; which isn't THAT expensive to do, but it does require a puppet-master sysadmin type to start it all << OMG Bob Beck has a path to redemtion if he takes it 768614;1406276525;BingoBoingo;*p omitted because history is immutable 768615;1406276644;BingoBoingo;https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2830107729&feature=iv&index=2&list=PLeImKFecYFCzKacBAZGzcJEVm9OWN1PFZ&src_vid=xMq-FyDBeBA&v=1qEEd7J3DBo 768616;1406276644;assbot;MINECRAFT (Honest Game Trailers) - YouTube 768617;1406278089;BingoBoingo;!up CheapBoy 768618;1406278132;CheapBoy;Thanks! 768619;1406278161;CheapBoy;I've got the hold of my GPS keys, trying to understand how to speak to gribble :) 768620;1406278181;xmj;GPG 768621;1406278193;xmj;CheapBoy: hi 768622;1406278194;xmj;:) 768623;1406278538;fluffypony;;;8ball should CheapBoy turn left in 500 meters? 768624;1406278538;gribble;NO! 768625;1406278545;fluffypony;see, gribble understands GPS 768626;1406278566;CheapBoy;Xmj Hi. I still don't understand what is what in the instructions about gribble 768627;1406278602;CheapBoy;Does gribble know where I am??? 768628;1406278628;CheapBoy;Omg... I'm outta here 768629;1406278635;fluffypony;!down CheapBoy 768630;1406278672;fluffypony;CheapBoy: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc 768631;1406278674;assbot;Using bitcoin-otc - bitcoin-otc wiki 768632;1406278706;xmj;well, that's that. 768633;1406278906;BingoBoingo;!up CheapBoy 768634;1406279637;cazalla;http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-28460426 768635;1406279637;assbot;BBC News - Flight MH17 crash: Man charged over Twitter post 768636;1406280265;xmj;how long does the IRS need in order to process form SS-4 and issue an Employer ID number? 768637;1406280566;xmj;rephrase, how long does it take them to process a fax'ed SS-4 form and issue an EIN ? 768638;1406280632;csshih;lol sorry xmj ;p I'm only familiar with the online app which takes literal moments 768639;1406280693;xmj;there we go ;) 768640;1406280695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 877 @ 0.004 = 3.508 BTC [-] 768641;1406280696;xmj;thx 768642;1406280706;csshih;"To expedite the issuance of an EIN for a foreign entity, please call (267) 941-1099. This is not a toll-free call. 768643;1406280706;csshih;" http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Taxpayer-Identification-Numbers-(TIN) 768644;1406280706;assbot;Taxpayer Identification Numbers (TIN) 768645;1406280749;xmj;boo 768646;1406280760;xmj;i dont wanna pay taxes; just get a bank account and receive money :p 768647;1406280888;csshih;boo 768648;1406280899;csshih;:c irs 768649;1406281671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.162 = 3.402 BTC [+] 768650;1406283135;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00081487 = 8.5154 BTC [-] 768651;1406283745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00081476 = 25.339 BTC [-] {2} 768652;1406283928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.162 = 1.458 BTC [+] 768653;1406288658;FabianB;$depth s.mpoe 768654;1406288659;empyex;FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 50000 @ 0.00081273 34235 @ 0.00081251 44486 @ 0.00081060 23200 @ 0.00079720 768655;1406288660;empyex;FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 7453 @ 0.00081536 10971 @ 0.00082002 66000 @ 0.00082043 40300 @ 0.00082138 768656;1406288666;FabianB;$depth s.bbet 768657;1406288667;empyex;FabianB: [S.BBET] Bids: 1000 @ 0.00048222 1000 @ 0.00048000 2000 @ 0.00047000 190 @ 0.00046010 768658;1406288668;empyex;FabianB: [S.BBET] Asks: 10000 @ 0.00050900 10000 @ 0.00050999 10000 @ 0.00052210 10000 @ 0.00052229 768659;1406288674;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 768660;1406288676;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 191 @ 0.00021513 100 @ 0.00021512 1000 @ 0.00021512 2000 @ 0.00021511 768661;1406288677;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 2000 @ 0.00022500 10000 @ 0.00023150 10000 @ 0.00023500 10000 @ 0.00023850 768662;1406288708;FabianB;$depth s.mg 768663;1406288709;empyex;FabianB: [S.MG] Bids: 99 @ 0.00009100 671844 @ 0.00009000 20000 @ 0.00003000 3000000 @ 0.00000050 768664;1406288710;empyex;FabianB: [S.MG] Asks: 79053 @ 0.00010950 3000 @ 0.00011000 100000 @ 0.00012000 18 @ 0.00012399 768665;1406289296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.16499888 = 1.485 BTC [+] {4} 768666;1406291980;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7453 @ 0.00081536 = 6.0769 BTC [+] 768667;1406295993;chetty;http://www.coindesk.com/austria-offers-contradictory-guidance-bitcoins-financial-status/ 768668;1406295993;assbot;Austria Offers 'Contradictory' Guidance on Bitcoin's Financial Status 768669;1406299065;ThickAsThieves;"Cost of mining doesn't matter to the price, miners will readjust themselves according to the current price by either taking a temporary loss and not selling or reduce mining nodes/more efficient hardware." fukn traders... 768670;1406299284;pigeons;my stocks went down too, but the price doesn't matter, i'll just take a temporary loss and not sell. how long is temporary? 768671;1406299297;xmj;yyyyeah 768672;1406299311;xmj;that's what people said after the Dotcom bubble 768673;1406299314;xmj;then the firms went bust. 768674;1406299356;pigeons;i could just spend the money i dont have because im taking a temporary loss on more efficient hardware that doesnt exist 768675;1406299388;xmj;cover losses 768676;1406299470;xmj;limit downsides 768677;1406299909;mike_c;asciilifeform: google was unhelpful. what was this chocolate password scheme? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#768266 768678;1406299909;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 768679;1406300261;ThickAsThieves;"Mitchell Tace Chapman, of Pegwood Road, Sunderland, has been charged with making a malicious communication." 768680;1406300264;ThickAsThieves;nice 768681;1406300285;ThickAsThieves;"slander" is out. "malicious communication" is in!. 768682;1406300548;chetty; "slander" is out. "malicious communication" is in!.//whatever happened to 'stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me'? 768683;1406301325;asciilifeform;mike_c: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3639679.stm and http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2008/apr/16/woman4timesmorelikelythan and probably others 768684;1406301326;assbot;BBC NEWS | Technology | Passwords revealed by sweet deal 768685;1406301326;assbot;Woman 4 times more likely than men to give passwords for chocolate | Technology | theguardian.com 768686;1406301474;mike_c;asciilifeform: lol. good stuff. 768687;1406301633;asciilifeform;ok here's a little mindfuck 768688;1406301636;asciilifeform;'Sector repair completed:port=0, LBA=0x0.' 768689;1406301639;asciilifeform;what are the chances. 768690;1406301655;xmj;what. 768691;1406301750;asciilifeform;boot record. 768692;1406301758;mthreat;anyone competing in ICFP? 768693;1406302084;xmj;asciilifeform: wow 768694;1406302306;chetty;http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/39466/european-central-bank-hacked-20k-email-addresses-lifted/ 768695;1406302307;assbot;Infosecurity - European Central Bank Hacked; 20K Email Addresses Lifted 768696;1406302393;artifexd;I come back from Ecuador and realize that they just banned bitcoin entirely because they're going to make their own cryptocurrency. I guess my wife was right all along when she said Correa was a dumb ass. 768697;1406302441;artifexd;Also, []bot is back up. There just has been no action for the last 18ish hours. 768698;1406302507;artifexd;Wow. Much logs. Many catching up to do. 768699;1406302514;asciilifeform;http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/24/nuanced-view-needed-to-understand-millennial-homebuying-behavior << mega-lol. chumpatron is sputtering, chumpatronic engineers desperate. 768700;1406302516;assbot;'Nuanced View' Needed to Understand Millennial Homebuying Behavior - US News 768701;1406302564;chetty;nuanced view - hmm time to ban some more words 768702;1406302609;asciilifeform;chetty: the 'lies per kByte' in this turd must be some sort of record. 768703;1406302640;mike_c;this is not rocket science. they just took out a "mortgage" to pay for college. why would they want another one? 768704;1406302655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00297729 = 0.5955 BTC [+] 768705;1406302843;asciilifeform;'And the investment in higher education, even if it means finances are strapped now, leads to higher wages that boost future spending power.' << eat recycled food. it's good for the environment - and ok for you! 768706;1406303387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3337 @ 0.0029773 = 9.9353 BTC [+] {2} 768707;1406303997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.81517560 BTC to 12`515 shares, 14504 satoshi per share 768708;1406304058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 24.25324692 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2109 satoshi per share 768709;1406304303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 4.61234584 BTC to 29`438 shares, 15668 satoshi per share 768710;1406304408;ThickAsThieves;https://www.amagimetals.com/info/ceo-of-amagi-metals-makes-a-bet-with-peter-schiff/ 768711;1406304923;kakobrekla;lots of text for 1btc. 768712;1406304989;mike_c;1btc in 5 years though. that could be hefty. 768713;1406306010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00081648 = 22.6981 BTC [+] {2} 768714;1406306079;ThickAsThieves;schiff took the shitty side, he gets one worthless bitcoin at the end if he wins 768715;1406306545;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 768716;1406306546;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 601.06, Best ask: 602.26, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 602.27, 24 hour volume: 5598.26669767, 24 hour low: 592.97, 24 hour high: 609.65, 24 hour vwap: 600.887144777 768717;1406306794;DreadKnight;DreadKnight:or even investors, as long as the strings aren't forever <-> mircea_popescu:DreadKnight why not ? 768718;1406306815;DreadKnight;forgot to answer that last time, well I misinterpreted 768719;1406306901;DreadKnight;the answer: I'm trying to make an evergreen type of game, with high replay value, that will also get new content and features over the years; so it's not like an oldschool published game, where you got a finished product with 40 hours of gameplay and then it gets stacked on the shelf 768720;1406306931;DreadKnight;evergreen games are the hardest to make and I don't want strings attached over the years; you could check out this article about such games http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DanielCook/20130726/196754/A_single_game_as_a_lifelong_hobby.php mircea_popescu 768721;1406306932;assbot;Gamasutra: Daniel Cook's Blog - A single game as a lifelong hobby 768722;1406306968;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight that's exactly how i go too. eulora is supposed to be playable forever. 768723;1406306993;mircea_popescu;this doesn't answer the "why" tho. 768724;1406306994;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, is that one of your projects or a game you funded? 768725;1406307012;mircea_popescu;that's the flagship game of s.mg, it's a proper mmorpg. 768726;1406307018;DreadKnight;hmm http://trilema.com/2013/its-called-eulora/ 768727;1406307019;assbot;It’s called Eulora pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768728;1406307023;mircea_popescu;playable atm, more or less, if you have linux 768729;1406307023;mircea_popescu;yes. 768730;1406307030;mircea_popescu;or know how to compile for your platform 768731;1406307060;DreadKnight;I usually hate compiling, most keen on browser based stuff 768732;1406307079;fluffypony;browser based games? 768733;1406307083;fluffypony;like Farmville? 768734;1406307116;DreadKnight;more or less 768735;1406307120;mircea_popescu;fluffypony guy's working on yet another homm for the web. 768736;1406307123;mircea_popescu;what was the link again ? 768737;1406307141;fluffypony;DreadKnight: do you use a ChromeBook? 768738;1406307176;DreadKnight;fluffypony, on a desktop atm, but would definitely recommend a ChromeBook to my parents and other people within a year or so 768739;1406307196;DreadKnight;fluffypony, so yeah, what's the link to your project? I'm making www.AncientBeast.com 768740;1406307207;fluffypony;I don't have a project, I'm semi-retired 768741;1406307216;DreadKnight;got an old screenie? 768742;1406307222;asciilifeform;'chromebook' can be turned into a perfectly normal machine (diassemble, remove eeprom write protect jumper, write in an ordinary linux, e.g. 'gentoo') 768743;1406307237;mircea_popescu;fluffypony read that as "semi retarded" :D 768744;1406307239;mircea_popescu;sorry fluffl 768745;1406307244;fluffypony;hah hah 768746;1406307252;fluffypony;only when it's the morning and I haven't had coffee ;) 768747;1406307257;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight dude's not a game dev, he's like a corporate ladder climber. 768748;1406307277;DreadKnight;seen quite a few people wanting to make a homm clone, but nobody was quite up for walking the walk 768749;1406307280;fluffypony;"I reached the top and I had to stop, and that's what's bothering me" 768750;1406307282;fluffypony;*sings* 768751;1406307285;mircea_popescu;hehe 768752;1406307302;jurov;DreadKnight so if you had in exchange for investment to pay out % of profit as dividends, is that unacceptable string to you? 768753;1406307312;mircea_popescu;fluffypony recall that trilema url with your pic ? 768754;1406307323;fluffypony;fuck you, fuck me? 768755;1406307335;fluffypony;other way round - fuck me, fuck you 768756;1406307380;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/ << there, that's her. 768757;1406307381;assbot;Fuck me ?! Fuck you!!! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768758;1406307399;DreadKnight;jurov, was more keen on giving a fixed percentage back from the investment with time, besides the investment itself ofc; I'm not really into stock market, but I guess that would be fine, I could always buy the dividends myself at some point :D 768759;1406307407;asciilifeform;'fuck you fuck me' << that was the original teledildonics product, if i recall. 768760;1406307419;asciilifeform;http://www.easylife.org/fufme 768761;1406307419;assbot;FuckU-FuckMe. Changing the feel of communication. 768762;1406307449;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ikr ? 768763;1406307452;asciilifeform;http://www.easylife.org/fufme/faq-use.html 768764;1406307452;assbot;FuckU-FuckMe. Changing the feel of communication. 768765;1406307513;fluffypony;that is a fantastic tagline 768766;1406307515;jurov;DreadKnight why would you submit to giving fixed % back even if the game profits is less than anticipated? 768767;1406307521;DreadKnight;wait, why am I seeing a picture of fluffypony's wife? xD 768768;1406307541;mircea_popescu;cause it's his better half ? 768769;1406307549;fluffypony;indeed 768770;1406307552;DreadKnight;she ain't bad :3 768771;1406307557;mircea_popescu;she takes all the decisions and etc 768772;1406307564;mircea_popescu;ol' fluff just works all day. 768773;1406307566;DreadKnight;oh :)) 768774;1406307594;DreadKnight;so she probably decided to axe the homm clone or had something to do with it 768775;1406307602;fluffypony;what's homm? 768776;1406307609;DreadKnight;Heroes of Might and Magic 768777;1406307614;fluffypony;ah ok 768778;1406307624;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i can help you! http://trilema.com/2010/heroes-iii/ 768779;1406307624;assbot;Heroes III pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768780;1406307629;mircea_popescu;(you can look at teh pictures) 768781;1406307634;fluffypony;holy cow 2010 blog post 768782;1406307638;*;asciilifeform fondly remembers m&m and homm 768783;1406307659;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you ever tried playing mm6/7 with a girl ? 768784;1406307663;DreadKnight;jurov, yeah, that's assuming less risks in the short term anyway; though in the long run, those percentages could be way more than that fixed profit cut I mentioned 768785;1406307671;*;fluffypony stares at the Settlers of Catan box 768786;1406307672;mircea_popescu;it works splendidly, have her asdw while you handle teh mouse. 768787;1406307682;mircea_popescu;best couple activity involving a screen ever. 768788;1406307701;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nope 768789;1406307704;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight you won't get a bond as nobody. not even major players in the industry get bonds. 768790;1406307753;mircea_popescu;(and when they do get close to bonds, disasters a la daikatana happen. it's very important to have good supervision, key to success.) 768791;1406307783;mircea_popescu;fluffypony trilema started in 2008. and since then, i've written > 1 article a day, each day, every day. 768792;1406307784;DreadKnight;funny they sold daikatana for whatever in humblebundle recently 768793;1406307799;mircea_popescu;thing cost 10 mn dollars, and this is pre 2000 money. 768794;1406307822;DreadKnight;dunno why they don't let that game project get buried already 768795;1406307830;mircea_popescu;thing cost 10 mn dollars, and this is pre 2000 money. < 768796;1406307843;DreadKnight;yeah, they're still trying to cover loses 768797;1406307848;mircea_popescu;people get incredibly attached to huge piles of dough 768798;1406307888;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, still having issues with zoso and other bloggers nowadays? 768799;1406307903;mircea_popescu;im sure they're still butthurt. 768800;1406307920;mircea_popescu;but today, it's mostly reddit that's butthurt. 768801;1406307934;mircea_popescu;well and sa, ofcourse. 768802;1406307938;DreadKnight;how come? 768803;1406307949;DreadKnight;I'm not too keen about reddit myself, ugly looking 768804;1406307961;DreadKnight;feels 80's 768805;1406307963;benkay;"cyranodeb" // read as cyra-node-b, because i have bitcoins on the mind 768806;1406307963;asciilifeform;http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/Soaprman/imagefests/doom2-08/DOOM0446.png << author of daikatana 768807;1406307984;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight well there's a lot you don't understand (yet) :p 768808;1406308013;DreadKnight;there always will be 768809;1406308024;DreadKnight;tell me something new :D 768810;1406308032;mircea_popescu;ahh what a way to wake up. i think ima fire up h2 now 768811;1406308055;mircea_popescu;( asciilifeform ever tried playing h2/h3 with a girl ? ever found one to consistently beat you ? ) 768812;1406308073;asciilifeform;nein 768813;1406308158;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, you could have posted a screenie with that eulora blog post :D 768814;1406308184;DreadKnight;found some in the comments 768815;1406308202;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight which one you mean ? 768816;1406308219;mircea_popescu;o o uyeah. 768817;1406308224;mike_c;http://www.eulorum.org/Screenshots 768818;1406308225;assbot;Screenshots - Eulorum 768819;1406308234;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/heroes-of-newerth/ << mp meets moba. 768820;1406308235;assbot;Heroes of Newerth pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768821;1406308284;mike_c;wow, 5 months blows by quick. chetty, when's v0.0.5? 768822;1406308286;DreadKnight;mmorpgs are beasts to make and they require massive amount of players, the main issue that breaks or makes mmo's is that they keep being rpg's and have a lot of competition, also, there's the peer pressure; a lot of players stick to a certain mmorpg because their friends keep playing them, getting them to switch would mean also making friends to switch at the same time 768823;1406308328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.15610228 = 0.7805 BTC [-] {3} 768824;1406308336;DreadKnight;there are a few extra creditz episodes on youtube why new mmorpg's don't make it as in they can't compete with WoW etc 768825;1406308350;mike_c;WoW gold can't compete with bitcoin 768826;1406308354;mircea_popescu;mike_c buildings being worked on. but a new package not so far off. 768827;1406308359;mike_c;cool 768828;1406308384;benkay;hoooooly logs 768829;1406308389;mircea_popescu;ima keep going "there's a lot you don't know yet" at this poor guy or what. 768830;1406308407;mircea_popescu;benkay we wish you a merry fu! we wish you a merry fu! and a happy neeeeew looooog! 768831;1406308495;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 26.83847635 BTC. Current weight: 20,822. 768832;1406308495;benkay;s.mg pump incoming hue hue hue 768833;1406308779;DreadKnight;even if WoW requires pumping money into, there are quite a few players who use WoW to make money, yeah, might not be in an official way like bitcoins, but still 768834;1406308817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00081671 = 1.8866 BTC [+] 768835;1406308817;mike_c;for everyone who is dying to know what moiety sounds like: 768836;1406308819;mike_c;https://btc.waroflife.com/videos/ 768837;1406308820;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automata to the death! 768838;1406308925;mircea_popescu;ahahah scottie. 768839;1406308964;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: pankkake: natalie portman is a jew? I always knew something was off with her << only on the mother's side. << still counts, of course, and a +ev strategy for it to be so. my father isn't one of the "chosen people," though he's still… frugal 768840;1406309035;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: pigeons: wow really they are already trying to damage control the 1% of the press they get that isn't positive? and from a bitcoinpete (no offense lol) blog post? << the 1% happens to be what matters in this field. << pimps matter in every field 768841;1406309060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 255 @ 0.0029 = 0.7395 BTC [-] 768842;1406309074;bitcoinpete;575 hits on dat ethereum blog so far 768843;1406309330;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete there've been a few people inquiring here, but none actually put fat on the line. 768844;1406309339;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: Luke-Jr banana << lmao 768845;1406309356;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: tawk iz cheep 768846;1406309364;chetty; wow, 5 months blows by quick. chetty, when's v0.0.5?//been a little distracted lately, hopefully soon 768847;1406309390;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: and so is being stoopid 768848;1406309412;mircea_popescu;basically the advent of the internet talkhole has resulted in a lot of people trying to save on talk psychiatry. 768849;1406309420;mircea_popescu;to the degree the profession all but disappeared. 768850;1406309494;bitcoinpete;which is truly unfortunate for the immense population of north americans who need it 768851;1406309511;bitcoinpete;not that they could afford it 768852;1406309528;mircea_popescu;well, need is relative. they could use it, sure. a good beating's cheaper. 768853;1406309530;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: you're not being accused. you've just been convicted. that's all. << Luke-Jr, of being a banana 768854;1406309623;bitcoinpete;"The median grade at Harvard College is an A-, and the most frequently awarded mark is an A, Dean of Undergraduate Education Jay M. Harris said on Tuesday afternoon" 768855;1406309638;bitcoinpete;more beatings needed. everywhere. 768856;1406309652;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/a-useful-list-of-things/ 768857;1406309653;assbot;A useful list of things pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 768858;1406309665;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2014#721756 768859;1406309666;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 768860;1406309840;bitcoinpete;mhm 768861;1406309888;bitcoinpete;if canadian institutions were so favourable, i'd be in medicine 768862;1406309890;asciilifeform;the official legend has always been (don't laugh...) 'we only admit the best, of course they'll have nothing but perfect marks' 768863;1406309904;chetty;http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/07/lawsuit-stunner-half-of-futures-trades-in-chicago-are-illegal-wash-trades/ 768864;1406309907;assbot;Lawsuit Stunner: Half of Futures Trades in Chicago Are Illegal Wash Trades 768865;1406309921;mircea_popescu;fluffypony http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/288/325/03c.png 768866;1406309940;fluffypony;lol 768867;1406309947;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no twenty year old ever fell in love resulting in neglect of his work. 768868;1406309952;mircea_popescu;this is amish country, only better. 768869;1406309956;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: this (as discussed in the log) is not a thing in every u.s. uni, but only at the 'ivy' ones (most expensive, direct ladder to the lizardocracy) 768870;1406309994;chetty; bitcoinpete: this (as discussed in the log) is not a thing in every u.s. uni, but only at the 'ivy' ones (most expensive, direct ladder to the lizardocracy)//trickle down will get there 768871;1406310026;mircea_popescu;you know incidentally... this is exactly how the "Stefan Gheorghiu" School of Political Science worked in the 80s romania. 768872;1406310030;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform i had the good fortune of going to a larger canadian uni, saving me from such poisonous offerings 768873;1406310037;mircea_popescu;they couldn't give a bad mark to someone they had admitted. 768874;1406310064;bitcoinpete;lest they make the admissions board look bad 768875;1406310073;asciilifeform;i've been told this is SOP in japan, as well. 768876;1406310084;mircea_popescu;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ștefan_Gheorghiu_Academy 768877;1406310084;assbot;tefan Gheorghiu Academy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 768878;1406310090;bitcoinpete;hard to get in, but if you're in…. gravy 768879;1406310098;asciilifeform;can't flunk a brahmin, bad form. 768880;1406310112;bitcoinpete;the gods would be angry 768881;1406310129;mircea_popescu;it gives a bad impression of social mobility to the workers. 768882;1406310143;mircea_popescu;actually i should probably write on the us fiction of "social mobility" 768883;1406310162;asciilifeform;the original u.s. chumpatron. 768884;1406310166;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: YES! 768885;1406310218;bitcoinpete;"North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is reportedly furious about a Chinese viral video that photoshops him into all manner of ridiculous scenarios: dancing, brawling, riding a pig, frolicking with Osama Bin Laden, and generally being made a laughingstock by Obama and Putin." 768886;1406310237;mircea_popescu;he should invade. 768887;1406310252;bitcoinpete;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgEmezpS_E << actually pretty lulzy 768888;1406310253;assbot; - YouTube 768889;1406310300;bitcoinpete;kju should raise interest rates 768890;1406310320;bitcoinpete;which i guess russia did today - 0.5% up to 8% 768891;1406310402;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 756 @ 0.00297173 = 2.2466 BTC [+] {3} 768892;1406310405;mircea_popescu;8% is just about nuts. 768893;1406310420;mircea_popescu;they are killing the domestic market. 768894;1406310448;mircea_popescu;i mean i get it, new mercantilism, they don't want consumption, all that. but omfg, 8%. 768895;1406310463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00297749 = 2.0842 BTC [+] 768896;1406310524;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1669 @ 0.0029775 = 4.9694 BTC [+] 768897;1406310567;bitcoinpete;definitely, but i seriously no idea it was 7.5% before! 768898;1406310577;bitcoinpete;8 is fucked 768899;1406310605;asciilifeform;oldie but goodie on subject of brahmins: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/26/mit-admissions-dean-resigns-admits-misleading 768900;1406310605;assbot;MIT Admissions Dean Resigns; Admits Misleading School on Credentials | News | The Harvard Crimson 768901;1406310766;kakobrekla;if anyone is looking for a satire https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708813.msg8020809#msg8020809 768902;1406310766;assbot;MPEx securities discussion thread 768903;1406310814;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is the benefit of aging. you start to realise your time is worth more than money. << a lesson few, even more aged, grok. intentionally i often suspect, as they're too unimaginative to find better uses for their time 768904;1406310857;chetty;better than what? 768905;1406310874;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete or it's just too painful to admit they're currently wasting their time. 768906;1406310883;asciilifeform;to paraphrase paul erdos, 'they have no theorems to prove' 768907;1406310894;mircea_popescu;how many people with tween kids in tow are willing to consider whether the little schmucks are even worth raisingin the first place ? 768908;1406310899;mircea_popescu;it starts there. 768909;1406310902;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform aptly put. 768910;1406310919;fluffypony;this is why we're not having kids 768911;1406310924;asciilifeform;a fellow 'with theorems to prove' could easily put 1000 years to good use. 768912;1406310964;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ow shit, guy posting on the forum just annulled half a million btc worth of paper. 768913;1406310968;mike_c;fluffypony: because your kids wouldn't be worth raising? 768914;1406310968;mircea_popescu;the fuck am i going to do now. 768915;1406310987;mircea_popescu;mike_c because if he were to discover they aren't, he wouldn't have an out. 768916;1406310992;mircea_popescu;or at least so i imagine. 768917;1406310992;fluffypony;yep 768918;1406311005;mike_c;doesn't say much of your analysis of their gene pool :) 768919;1406311006;fluffypony;if they ended up being useless shits, what then? 768920;1406311021;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: cross that bridge when you get to it, neh? 768921;1406311023;mircea_popescu;people wanna solve the fertility problem, the solution is simple : give parents the unchallengeable right to kill the kids up until age 16. 768922;1406311033;mircea_popescu;problem solved. much better kids, and more of them. 768923;1406311035;mike_c;what kill? out is easy: boarding school. 768924;1406311044;fluffypony;well it's other concerns, mike_c - my neice has down syndrome, and I don't envy the ongoing struggle my aunt and uncle have 768925;1406311049;mircea_popescu;mike_c only if it's a self-supporting economic activity. 768926;1406311050;chetty;not kids would survive, all teens should die 768927;1406311053;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: islam does exactly that, honour killings, still have population explosions 768928;1406311057;kakobrekla;mp: nothing, its over! 768929;1406311057;mircea_popescu;which doesn't work today, as there's not much useful work kids can do. 768930;1406311079;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla can i send you my cv ? maybe there's a job opening somewhere, bit4x ? 768931;1406311092;mike_c;kids aren't supposed to be a profitable economic activity. 768932;1406311097;fluffypony;either way, we've realised we're too selfish as a couple to consider children, and I doubt that will change in future 768933;1406311098;mike_c;they are an expense 768934;1406311099;mircea_popescu;mike_c lol wut ? 768935;1406311135;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you ever seen maria's shining moment ? 768936;1406311136;rithm;pirate wants a jury trial 768937;1406311137;chetty;if more people really understood babies grow into teens there would not be a population problem 768938;1406311143;rithm;isn't that neat 768939;1406311147;mike_c;you pay $500,000 to have a cute little thing that loves you for 10 years, hates you for 8, and then hopefully respects you after that. 768940;1406311149;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: no? 768941;1406311149;mircea_popescu;rithm of course he does ? 768942;1406311169;mircea_popescu;fluffypony decent film. has the cannonical moment of the down kid parent thing. 768943;1406311176;mircea_popescu;well, at least to my mind cannonical. 768944;1406311187;rithm;babies grow into teens? 768945;1406311195;rithm;i hate teenagers! 768946;1406311202;fluffypony;rithm: isn't a jury supposed to be made up of your peers? so then his jury is going to be made up of Karpeles and the "dev teams" behind MaidSafe and Ethereum? 768947;1406311203;mircea_popescu;mike_c now why would i do that ? i' 768948;1406311213;mircea_popescu;d rather pay indiancandy's plane ticket for 500 or w/e it was 768949;1406311217;mircea_popescu;and im not doing that, either. 768950;1406311218;mike_c;why do some people get dogs? i have no fking idea. 768951;1406311225;rithm;fluffypony: subpoenas for errybody 768952;1406311226;mircea_popescu;this is not dogs. the dog, you can kill. 768953;1406311244;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i don't think they take peers that seriously. 768954;1406311252;mike_c;it is a gamble. more upside with a good kid than a good dog. 768955;1406311257;rithm;i call to the stand vbuterin 768956;1406311262;fluffypony;mike_c: because dogs are adorable and love you, and if your situation changes you can rehome them, and if they have an untreatable aggression problem you can (legally and even morally to most) put them down 768957;1406311262;rithm;to speak about ethereum 768958;1406311280;fluffypony;rithm: trial by blockchain! 768959;1406311283;mike_c;fluffypony: yes. and on the other hand they will never have an intelligent conversation with you. 768960;1406311291;fluffypony;PoJ - Proof of Judiciary 768961;1406311304;mircea_popescu;mike_c why would i take a gamble on another's terms ? 768962;1406311328;mike_c;that doesn't make sense. why would anyone bet on bitbet on your terms? 768963;1406311336;bitcoinpete;bbl 768964;1406311336;mircea_popescu;i want the right to kill any children or i won't have any. that's that. 768965;1406311347;mircea_popescu;mike_c that'd be their problem. 768966;1406311348;asciilifeform;^ 768967;1406311349;fluffypony;mike_c: true that...I guess we want it to be a bit more of a "sure thing" when embarking on a 20 year project that will consume nearly all our time and money ;) 768968;1406311356;mike_c;and i don't want a dog. different strokes. 768969;1406311381;mircea_popescu;mike_c but anyway, presumably because my terms are great. 768970;1406311389;mike_c;heh, "sure thing". 768971;1406311389;mircea_popescu;compared to their terms, that suck. 768972;1406311395;fluffypony;!s ecuador 768973;1406311395;assbot;14 results for 'ecuador' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ecuador 768974;1406311401;mircea_popescu;which is why women are my slaves, rather than me theirs : because i am great, and they aren't as great. 768975;1406311413;fluffypony;oh werd, artifexd already mentioned it 768976;1406311423;mike_c;until you meet the right woman :D 768977;1406311424;fluffypony;they've banned Bitcoin and all digital currencies 768978;1406311430;mircea_popescu;fluffypony pretty much the only thing one can be sure of here, is that news's been scoopt. 768979;1406311445;mircea_popescu;mike_c thing is, i've met plenty of right women 768980;1406311447;mircea_popescu;for that position 768981;1406311454;mike_c;not the position of making you their slave. 768982;1406311461;mike_c;she is still out there. 768983;1406311467;mircea_popescu;perhaps. 768984;1406311471;fluffypony;"The law gives the government permission to make payments in ‘electronic money’, but decentralized digital currencies like bitcoin will now be prohibited. The proposed electronic money is to be backed by the assets of the Banco Central del Ecuador, the nation’s central bank. The National Assembly will oversee the new currency while the central bank will develop and integrate it into the broader financial system." 768985;1406311475;mircea_popescu;hey, more power to her, i've no problem with it. 768986;1406311494;mike_c;fluffypony: how old is your wife? mid-20's? 768987;1406311503;fluffypony;mike_c: 27 768988;1406311509;mike_c;k, check back in 3 years plz 768989;1406311510;mircea_popescu;if anyone from ecuador is here : i will trade with you in violation of ecuador's alleged "laws". 768990;1406311513;fluffypony;hah hah 768991;1406311526;mircea_popescu;mike_c ask me. 768992;1406311536;mike_c;you don't have a wife. 768993;1406311543;mircea_popescu;a slave's more than a wife. 768994;1406311550;mike_c;different, not more. 768995;1406311553;mircea_popescu;no, more. 768996;1406311569;mike_c;hell no. you only think that cuz you haven't met wife yet. 768997;1406311579;mircea_popescu;you're discussing the relation not the person. 768998;1406311590;mircea_popescu;slave'll do what you tell her to, and that includes go kill yourself. 768999;1406311591;mike_c;that is backwards. the person is the important part. 769000;1406311596;mircea_popescu;which makes it more. 769001;1406311620;mike_c;that is the benefit of slave, like benefit of dog. it will do what you tell it or else. child and wife have different pros & cons. 769002;1406311628;mircea_popescu;it's not really "or else". 769003;1406311638;mike_c;right, same with dog. 769004;1406311650;mircea_popescu;we disagree. 769005;1406311660;mircea_popescu;as far as i can see, wife's closer to dog than to slave. 769006;1406311666;mircea_popescu;at least as commonly practiced wife and dog goes. 769007;1406311690;mike_c;well, i am not concerned with commonly. commonly wife & husband can't stand each other. 769008;1406311707;mike_c;commonly people hold fiat instead of bitcoin 769009;1406311711;mircea_popescu;yes well, everyone thinks their thing's special, for as long as it lasts. 769010;1406311713;mircea_popescu;some turn out right. 769011;1406311732;mircea_popescu;but the relation with the wife is constructed to protect the possible failures. 769012;1406311735;mike_c;you can apply those last two lines to BTC as well 769013;1406311738;mircea_popescu;the relation with the slave's constructed to expose them 769014;1406311759;mike_c;it is same as dog. you are limiting the downside, but also limiting upside. 769015;1406311776;mircea_popescu;you really like this similarity, but no. the limited upside's with the wife. 769016;1406311784;mircea_popescu;which is why i said a wife's closer to a dog earlier. 769017;1406311823;mircea_popescu;take it this way : there's a lot less you can be spectacularly wrongabout with the wife. A LOT LESS. 769018;1406311838;mike_c;which is "better": 1) woman that does whatever you say. 2) woman that is your intellectual equal and participates favorably in your life 769019;1406311842;mircea_popescu;applying "no pain no gain" in reverse, obviously there's also a lot more upside with the slave. 769020;1406311853;mircea_popescu;mike_c that she's a slave does not preclude her being your intellectual equal. 769021;1406311861;mircea_popescu;it just precludes her being your will equal. 769022;1406311861;mike_c;no, it precludes the 2nd part 769023;1406311879;mircea_popescu;how the hell does it preclude participating favorably in your life ? 769024;1406311890;mike_c;because she doesn't help make decisions. 769025;1406311897;mircea_popescu;of course she does. 769026;1406311904;kakobrekla;!s coindesk 769027;1406311905;assbot;122 results for 'coindesk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=coindesk 769028;1406311906;mircea_popescu;she HELPS. she doesn't presume to actually make them. 769029;1406311918;mike_c;and why shouldn't she presume? 769030;1406311924;mike_c;because she is not qualified? 769031;1406311934;mircea_popescu;you want me to answer a negative ? she shouldn't presume becauise it;'s not her place. 769032;1406311961;mircea_popescu;let me go at it a different angle. you ever were good friends with a good doctor ? i mean, practicing seriously, a good one. 769033;1406311970;mike_c;yup 769034;1406311993;mircea_popescu;did it even happen that you were privy to a case where they fucked up ? for w/e reason, they made the wrong call, resulting in a lot of trouble for a patient ? 769035;1406311997;mike_c;yup 769036;1406312013;mircea_popescu;did this harrowing emotional experience constitute an opportunity for them to grow, as a person ? 769037;1406312022;mike_c;hm. she cried over it. 769038;1406312027;mircea_popescu;well yeah, but! 769039;1406312032;mike_c;yes 769040;1406312034;mircea_popescu;there's more to life than that first layer. 769041;1406312045;mircea_popescu;and now, consider that you WILL punish your slave for no fault of her own. 769042;1406312060;mircea_popescu;yes, her well welted flesh is going to participate favourably in your life. 769043;1406312078;mircea_popescu;you get to discover just how stupid you are, in short order, and a wife's no substitute. 769044;1406312089;mike_c;obviously slave, like dog, will participate favorably at some level. 769045;1406312101;mircea_popescu;at a level higher than anyone else can access. 769046;1406312116;mircea_popescu;meaning is, after all, the ash of sacrifice. 769047;1406312180;mircea_popescu;the fact that a wife is relatively safe, in her person and property makes the relationship much alike to that with a dog. which dog, in it's bestial stupidity, is also relatively safe. 769048;1406312182;mircea_popescu;a slave's not safe. 769049;1406312194;mike_c;try this. axiom (for this case): woman is right, you are wrong. who has a better chance of changing your mind/behavior? slave eventually is told to stfu and will do so. 769050;1406312206;mircea_popescu;and so ? 769051;1406312221;mike_c;and so you continue to be wrong, and no longer receive any input as to why. 769052;1406312232;mircea_popescu;don't you see the backflow here ? if you KNOW that your order will be unquestioned if it's an order, 769053;1406312240;mircea_popescu;aren't you in a much better position to correctly evaluate it ? 769054;1406312285;mircea_popescu;what'd you rather do, linux or windoze ? rm -rf has no "are you SURE ???" triplicate dialogue. 769055;1406312291;mircea_popescu;who' the better coder, the linux guy or the windows guy ? 769056;1406312298;mircea_popescu;which is closer to walking a dog ? 769057;1406312305;mike_c;(rm -r does) 769058;1406312313;mircea_popescu;(just forcing a point) 769059;1406312349;mike_c;poor analogy. i'm not looking for pointless barrier. this is why wife needs to be of certain quality. 769060;1406312361;mircea_popescu;windows is of certain quality. 769061;1406312368;mike_c;so i marry linux! 769062;1406312375;mircea_popescu;linux won't marry you. 769063;1406312377;mircea_popescu;it has a master already. 769064;1406312385;mike_c;ah, that can change :) 769065;1406312390;mircea_popescu;the pool you can select wives from is already the pool of the women too [insert here] to have a master. 769066;1406312393;benkay;9362/10362 769067;1406312417;mike_c;bullshit. the pool i select from is whoever I want. since I am making better offer, I get woman. 769068;1406312420;mircea_popescu;mike_c recall ballas' champagne glasses pyramid. wives are the 2nd or 3rd rung from the bottom. 769069;1406312429;mircea_popescu;you are actually making a much worse offer. 769070;1406312448;mircea_popescu;that is of course not obvious to most midrange women, which is why they get married. 769071;1406312453;mike_c;you are self-selecting. worse offer to slavegirl perhaps who doesn't want to live her own life. 769072;1406312472;mircea_popescu;you presume there's a way to live your own life outside of slavery. there actually isn't. 769073;1406312480;mike_c;who is your master? 769074;1406312481;mircea_popescu;you do get to live a role, i guess. be a good mom/wife/consumer/we 769075;1406312518;mircea_popescu;mike_c nobody. why, you entertaining symmetry hopes ? 769076;1406312530;DreadKnight;unless you go away with mars one project, then you'll care about survival 769077;1406312535;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> you presume there's a way to live your own life outside of slavery. there actually isn't. 769078;1406312554;benkay; asciilifeform traffic should resemble people exchanging gpg messages maybe ? // run it over cjdns? 769079;1406312556;mircea_popescu;mike_c if you must, i can expand it to include teh masters too. 769080;1406312567;mircea_popescu;benkay not a bad idea baking that in there i dont think yes. 769081;1406312576;mircea_popescu;so that your nodes act as cjdns nodes too, help both projhects. 769082;1406312610;benkay;neatly excises mitm. 769083;1406312678;mircea_popescu;!up wserd 769084;1406312755;benkay; statelessness has a quality all its own // see, mircea_popescu? state sucks. cause of much woe. 769085;1406312789;mircea_popescu;benkay if you recall, mpex eschewed https and http "logins" because state ? 769086;1406312823;benkay;not because a webui woulda cost more? 769087;1406312844;benkay;i keed, i keed. 769088;1406312865;mircea_popescu;not more than urmom! 769089;1406312886;mircea_popescu;!up the20year 769090;1406312889;mircea_popescu;pm assbot !up 769091;1406312890;benkay;and really sir - "because state"? not because the chosen architecture made it unnecessary? 769092;1406312896;benkay;!t h rent 769093;1406312897;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00400000 / 0.00402181 / 0.00439038 (1577 shares, 6.34238759 BTC), 7D: 0.00400000 / 0.00425515 / 0.00538009 (2574 shares, 10.95275244 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00403815 / 0.00540000 (9748 shares, 39.36386385 BTC) 769094;1406312903;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 59120 @ 0.00021465 = 12.6901 BTC [-] {2} 769095;1406312914;mircea_popescu;benkay these two aren't different. 769096;1406312964;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 27206 @ 0.00019 = 5.1691 BTC [-] 769097;1406313040;benkay;hey why did the order numbers fall over? not busting balls, state conversation made me curious. 769098;1406313065;mircea_popescu;because order numbers are assholes. 769099;1406313073;jurov; benkay if you recall, mpex eschewed https and http "logins" because state ? << and later almost forced everyone to maintain counter huh 769100;1406313081;mircea_popescu;jurov ;/ 769101;1406313083;benkay;mircea_popescu: WORST TECHNICAL REPORT 769102;1406313095;mircea_popescu;jurov it's one of the sins burdening me in confession. 769103;1406313098;benkay;yeah, shove state into the clients. fuck 'em. 769104;1406313150;the20year;is the topic still on wives? 769105;1406313165;benkay;the20year: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com 769106;1406313166;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769107;1406313181;mircea_popescu;the20year nope we just moved on. 769108;1406313187;the20year;by the time i read it all, you are on to something else 769109;1406313197;the20year;so i can only assume it 's a tarp 769110;1406313208;benkay;read faster, american 769111;1406313222;kakobrekla;http://vimeo.com/50531435 769112;1406313222;assbot;This Land Is Mine on Vimeo 769113;1406313225;benkay;9570/10410 769114;1406313266;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> for everyone who is dying to know what moiety sounds like: /// dat accent 769115;1406313267;the20year;Between chatting i'm also dealing with rental applications 769116;1406313288;the20year;I'm loving the facebook page thing, it's to the point we're getting half a dozen to a dozen rental applications before our properties in rehab are done 769117;1406313292;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: vote in progress. too thick for muricans? 769118;1406313294;mircea_popescu;whoa look at fmpif go 769119;1406313315;mircea_popescu;did someone fatfinger or did someone hire a forum muppet for investment advice ? 769120;1406313329;kakobrekla;its prolly jimmothy ackman 769121;1406313359;mircea_popescu;how'd he have twenny btc worth of stocks. 769122;1406313361;benkay; I still hope that someday php will be usable system wide, like python, not just in a specific directory // ahahahahaha 769123;1406313365;mike_c;!mpif 769124;1406313366;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021699 B (Total: 474.50 B). Delta: -0.78 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] 769125;1406313371;benkay;and this guy's making a muhmorperger? 769126;1406313385;mircea_popescu;benkay don't hate ppls just because they're different 769127;1406313385;benkay;=====================! 769128;1406313389;mircea_popescu;that's why you're still single 769129;1406313393;jurov;huh someone sold deeply into my mm's .19 order? 769130;1406313394;fluffypony;no, it's an evergreen 769131;1406313396;benkay;foreveralone 769132;1406313400;benkay;.butts 769133;1406313405;mike_c;had to be a fatfinger. reminder #240 to always have an order on the books. 769134;1406313419;mircea_popescu;jurov o was your MM stuff hit ? 769135;1406313421;mircea_popescu;sweet. 769136;1406313428;mircea_popescu;!up wyrdmantis 769137;1406313451;kakobrekla;a few trades today unaccounted for in that upper nav i think 769138;1406313470;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla yeah perhaps as much as fiddy bitcents profited. 769139;1406313471;kakobrekla;mike_c make the thing run hourly ? 769140;1406313483;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla how would he know what jurov made ? 769141;1406313496;kakobrekla;hm ? i mean my thing. 769142;1406313507;mike_c;!mpif 769143;1406313508;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] 769144;1406313509;mircea_popescu;o wait, YOU LOST MOAR MONYZ ?!?!?! 769145;1406313516;mike_c;oh, sweet, he made money 769146;1406313524;mircea_popescu;o yay. 769147;1406313540;mircea_popescu;great time to sell into the dirt : when unreported gains. 769148;1406313570;mike_c;kakobrekla: yes.. moving from cron.daily to cron.hourly is on the short list. i'll just do it now. 769149;1406313577;jurov;;;calc 0.00021707*1.01 769150;1406313577;gribble;0.0002192407 769151;1406313580;kakobrekla;cool ty 769152;1406313581;jurov;;;calc 0.00021707/1.01 769153;1406313581;gribble;0.000214920792079 769154;1406313596;jurov;mhm 769155;1406313687;wyrdmantis;hi everyone 769156;1406313713;benkay;salud 769157;1406313720;wyrdmantis;how register my nick? 769158;1406313750;wyrdmantis;i have to write the commands right here? 769159;1406313751;kakobrekla;to wot or nickserv ? 769160;1406313757;wyrdmantis;nickserv 769161;1406313763;DreadKnight;benkay, not making a mmorpg 769162;1406313764;wyrdmantis;one thing at a time 769163;1406313765;benkay;10008/10462 769164;1406313780;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> ThickAsThieves: vote in progress. too thick for muricans? //// Other than when she says "cunt" instead of "current" the accent is great ;) 769165;1406313781;kakobrekla;yeah /msg nickserv commands 769166;1406313797;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 769167;1406313835;mike_c;i heard that too :) 769168;1406313841;mircea_popescu;!up yamaka 769169;1406313918;ThickAsThieves;lol "MPEX has no value and has been/continues to burden the community." ~hayek 769170;1406313930;DreadKnight;benkay, was actually giving arguments why people shouldn't make mmorpg games, no matter how much money they got into their accounts 769171;1406313948;benkay;defo skimmed that logsection 769172;1406313954;mike_c;any other muricans want to give a listen and voice an opinion it would be appreciated. this isn't a love-fest, please say if you think the accent might not work for average US speaker. https://btc.waroflife.com/videos/ 769173;1406313954;assbot;Video Tutorials - War of Life 769174;1406313985;kakobrekla;i like it 769175;1406313993;mike_c;yeah, but you are multi-lingual 769176;1406314001;ThickAsThieves;no he's murican now 769177;1406314002;ThickAsThieves;sry 769178;1406314009;ThickAsThieves;graduated from somalian 769179;1406314010;mircea_popescu;mike_c how many non multilingual ppl ar you gonna find in assets ? 769180;1406314012;mike_c;he can't be murican if he speaks more than 1 language 769181;1406314048;ThickAsThieves;look, i'm an american and i like it, what more is there to need to know really? 769182;1406314050;mircea_popescu;!up wyrdmantis 769183;1406314059;mike_c;hell, you're from florida. practically a redneck 769184;1406314063;kakobrekla;perhaps is a bit fast 769185;1406314070;mircea_popescu;mike_c he's not even white. 769186;1406314072;ThickAsThieves;i'm from MA technically 769187;1406314074;ThickAsThieves;but sure 769188;1406314082;ThickAsThieves;i'm not even racist either 769189;1406314090;mircea_popescu;irk? 769190;1406314145;mircea_popescu;"MP prolly on NSA payroll." 769191;1406314162;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/#c3572 << bitbet trollbox beats btctrolltalk now 769192;1406314162;assbot;BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (12%) on Yes, 572.49 B (88%) on No | closing in 3 months 3 weeks | weight: 32`872 (100`000 to 1) 769193;1406314185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 393 @ 0.00149998 = 0.5895 BTC [+] {2} 769194;1406314217;ThickAsThieves;well there is S.NSA after all... 769195;1406314255;ThickAsThieves;this is good: "What baffles me is how people can send so many coins to a supposedly anonymous person. Do you give out unsecured loans to random strangers who you meet for the first time?" 769196;1406314258;ThickAsThieves;"Are you new to this subforum?" 769197;1406314271;mircea_popescu;lol 769198;1406314279;mircea_popescu;"unsecured loan" ? where do they get off lmao 769199;1406314382;mike_c;omg that SR auction bet is the gift that just keeps giving. daily lulz in the comments. 769200;1406314397;ThickAsThieves;mike_c on more mature note, i can add that the audio has some sibilance issues 769201;1406314423;mircea_popescu;!up _biO_ 769202;1406314426;jurov;mircea_popescu: looks like the F.MPIF perpetrator wants to withdraw 769203;1406314431;mike_c;yeah, it wasn't done with pro equipment i'm sure. but it was meant to have casual tone. 769204;1406314449;ThickAsThieves;i could smooth out some if you send me the raw 769205;1406314467;mircea_popescu;personally, i kinda like it how they keep making these forum threads about how mpex is bad, get laughed into the ground, close it and reopen it as if it were new. 769206;1406314468;mike_c;sure, thanks! 769207;1406314476;mircea_popescu;since the 2012 days of glbse we're at what, 4 of these ? 5 ? 769208;1406314484;mike_c;;;google sibilance 769209;1406314484;gribble;Sibilant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sibilance - Merriam-Webster Online: ; sibilance - definition of sibilance by The Free Dictionary: 769210;1406314505;mircea_popescu;jurov on it. 769211;1406314509;jurov;actually the thread wasn't about "mpex is bad" till jimmothy came around 769212;1406314544;kakobrekla;someone offer him a short? 769213;1406314549;mircea_popescu;well yeah but he's what, 90% of the text. 769214;1406314562;kakobrekla;for the 0.02 he has. 769215;1406314565;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you need money for that. his budget was in the decimals last he was offered a short. 769216;1406314574;kakobrekla;:) 769217;1406314584;mircea_popescu;and "it woudln't be fair anyway", for some variation of "mp has all the btc and can do whatever he wants" 769218;1406314585;fluffypony;jimmothy irritates the living daylights out of me 769219;1406314589;fluffypony;he's impossible to talk to 769220;1406314590;kakobrekla;yeah but this one is not cause of the money. 769221;1406314593;benkay; you pay $500,000 to have a cute little thing that loves you for 10 years, hates you for 8, and then hopefully respects you after that. // ideally. sculpting them into not-biodiesel is generally frowned upon in these parts. 769222;1406314599;mircea_popescu;somehow suddenly he's aware of that when it's his skin. but otherwise, happy to run the mouth, 769223;1406314603;benkay;"but mocking their idiocy is abuse!" 769224;1406314610;mircea_popescu;best argument against letting the common folk out of the dungeon i ever saw. 769225;1406314648;mircea_popescu;fluffypony he's providing the valuable service of keeping the idiots out. 769226;1406314673;kakobrekla;anyway, someone should offer a short on the thing, just to keep things healthy. 769227;1406314684;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla you looking to get banned moar ? 769228;1406314685;benkay;ah, the wives and slaves thread begins. 769229;1406314689;kakobrekla;lol 769230;1406314690;benkay;10286/10535 769231;1406314693;benkay;busy day 769232;1406314702;mircea_popescu;benkay what's the count ? no way we have 10k lines in the log today 769233;1406314716;benkay;lines since i last rebooted emacs on the aws micro 769234;1406314722;mircea_popescu;oh k. 769235;1406314781;benkay; it's not really "or else". // whose wives don't do as told? 769236;1406314823;benkay; which is "better": 1) woman that does whatever you say. 2) woman that is your intellectual equal and participates favorably in your life // false dichotomy 769237;1406314827;mircea_popescu;benkay his. 769238;1406314842;benkay;looky here i say "we're moving to argentina", we move to argentina. 769239;1406314846;mike_c;i didn't present it as 2 of 2 choices 769240;1406314852;mike_c;it's 2 of a million 769241;1406314857;mircea_popescu;http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken 769242;1406314857;assbot;Taken - The New Yorker 769243;1406314866;mircea_popescu;"United States v. One Pearl Necklace" 769244;1406314891;benkay;granted there's some yelling and "what about whelping near the g-p's", but at the end of the week the conversation is about which neighborhood in which to site up 769245;1406314895;ThickAsThieves;you cant debate people's love lives 769246;1406314897;ThickAsThieves;it's dumb 769247;1406314903;benkay;ThickAsThieves: this is -assets 769248;1406314912;benkay;debate all the things while testing in production 769249;1406314912;mircea_popescu;benkay and if you say "you eat your dogfood with your hands shackled behind your back and if you run into a hair there fu you eat it anyway and if it makes you vomit fu you'll lick it all up the floor and swallow it" ? 769250;1406314934;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves sure you can't debate it. why would something not be up for debate ? 769251;1406314937;benkay;that kinda stuff doesn't do much for me, mircea_popescu 769252;1406314945;mircea_popescu;benkay it does lots for her. 769253;1406314945;ThickAsThieves;cuz it implies one can win 769254;1406314956;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no itdoesn't. discussion and action are divorced topics, 769255;1406314972;mircea_popescu;not like one has to do anything on the strength of what ba said. 769256;1406314983;benkay;"get up at 7, make me coffee and bfast, sweep the apartment and then work out" is about the right load for lady v right now. 769257;1406314993;mircea_popescu;benkay you appreciate the point then. 769258;1406315005;benkay;right. 769259;1406315023;benkay;you don't go straight for the butthole w/no lube etc. 769260;1406315026;benkay;patience, etc. 769261;1406315033;mircea_popescu;not like it's a goal. 769262;1406315042;mircea_popescu;but still, wives are not slaves (and probably shouldn't generally be) 769263;1406315050;benkay;("TOUCHDOWN") 769264;1406315065;mircea_popescu;the20year will miss the topic again be all butthurt 769265;1406315133;benkay; poor analogy. i'm not looking for pointless barrier. this is why wife needs to be of certain quality. // those with whom one spends ones time in general... 769266;1406315183;benkay; you presume there's a way to live your own life outside of slavery. there actually isn't. // everything is a fractal representation of something else 769267;1406315190;benkay;marriage, slavery, democracy, bitcoin... 769268;1406315199;mircea_popescu;benkay what do you mean by fractal 769269;1406315205;benkay;aight logged up! 769270;1406315218;benkay;representing at a smaller or larger scale something else smaller or larger than itself 769271;1406315218;rithm;fractal geometry usually 769272;1406315225;benkay;the leaf and the river delta 769273;1406315257;benkay;monarchy and god 769274;1406315273;mircea_popescu;you're not making sense. 769275;1406315279;asciilifeform;'...officers scoring personal bonuses of up to twenty-six thousand dollars a year, straight from the forfeiture fund. In Titus County, forfeiture pays the assistant district attorneys entire salary. Farther south, in Johnson County, I came upon a sheriffs office that had confiscated an out-of-state drivers cash, in the absence of contraband...' 769276;1406315291;rithm;usually implies infinite zoom and levels where the original image is represented 769277;1406315297;rithm;chaos theory 769278;1406315300;*;benkay tags rithm in 769279;1406315302;rithm;butterflies in africa 769280;1406315336;rithm;i have a seirpinski triangle tattooed on my back! 769281;1406315348;kakobrekla;trampstamp? 769282;1406315357;rithm;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle 769283;1406315357;assbot;Sierpinski triangle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 769284;1406315371;rithm;that's probably one of the easier concepts to explain fractal geometry 769285;1406315382;rithm;because only 3 sides, not complex equations 769286;1406315389;kakobrekla;is it pointing towards the asshole? 769287;1406315401;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the highway robbery the us govt is conducting as a matter of course is well documented already, yes. 769288;1406315406;mircea_popescu;just one more symptom of decay 769289;1406315408;rithm;it's pointing to infinity and it's a repeating math funtion 769290;1406315423;kakobrekla;meh. 769291;1406315425;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: yes, but it is odd to see it mentioned in the u.s. 'pravda'. 769292;1406315428;rithm;the more difficult the function, the more intricate the design 769293;1406315451;rithm;but usually fractal geometry is zooming in and seeing a portion of the orignal image 769294;1406315454;rithm;fwiw 769295;1406315468;rithm;geometries of repeating functions at scale 769296;1406315511;rithm;you can add dimensions and then you get to talking about chaos 769297;1406315514;mike_c;i'm with ThickAsThieves. debating love is like debating religion. nobody is going to change their mind. 769298;1406315540;benkay;who said anything about love?! 769299;1406315557;mike_c;TaT did. 769300;1406315557;rithm;i understood benkay's statement 769301;1406315578;jurov;love peace happiness and slavery 769302;1406315602;benkay;ultimate responsibility for ones own actions drives lots of people insane, jurov 769303;1406315618;benkay;easier to pray, be told what to do by a "master" 769304;1406315625;benkay;see also the 12-steppers "higher power" 769305;1406315632;mike_c;asciilifeform: forfeiture quote source? 769306;1406315656;asciilifeform;mike_c: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#769241 769307;1406315656;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769308;1406315658;benkay;"this conscious operator can't make good decisions, so let's create an alternative decisionmaker inaccessible to the operator to whom good decisionmaking is delegated" 769309;1406315664;mike_c;ah, sry 769310;1406315670;mircea_popescu; i'm with ThickAsThieves. debating love is like debating religion. nobody is going to change their mind. << the point oif the discussion is not to change mind. 769311;1406315683;ThickAsThieves;instead of love, generally debating matters of taste and emotion is meh 769312;1406315689;mircea_popescu;but why ? 769313;1406315700;mike_c;meh, you philosophers. why discuss if nobody learns anything and grows/changes? 769314;1406315701;mircea_popescu;how the hell is taste to emerge, if not from the public discussion of individual preference ? 769315;1406315713;mircea_popescu;mike_c learning != changing mind. 769316;1406315715;ThickAsThieves;because each person has different value systems 769317;1406315716;benkay;oh i'm learning piles! 769318;1406315722;ThickAsThieves;and different biology 769319;1406315723;mircea_popescu;you can learn plenty without changing your mind. 769320;1406315733;benkay;more or less why i'm here... 769321;1406315741;ThickAsThieves;note my point of contention was the idea of a winner 769322;1406315754;ThickAsThieves;if you just want discourse, i agree it's healthy 769323;1406315763;ThickAsThieves;but no one is better or right 769324;1406315765;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i definitely don't propose there's a winner. the dispute of which is more complex a tool does not map on the discussion of which is a better tool. 769325;1406315768;mike_c;well, perhaps love is different. with religion, nobody will accept any learning because they are too invested in their current system. 769326;1406315781;mircea_popescu;mike_c this is false on its face. i'm a religious scholar. 769327;1406315785;kakobrekla;both is scam. 769328;1406315799;mike_c;a religious scholar is entirely different from a religiuos person 769329;1406315800;ThickAsThieves;it's all scams 769330;1406315811;mike_c;go teach danielpbarron *anything* 769331;1406315811;mircea_popescu;mike_c your contention was "discussing religion" 769332;1406315848;benkay;lovecoin a scam? 769333;1406315850;mircea_popescu;lol what did he do 769334;1406315859;mircea_popescu;benkay coin a lovescam. 769335;1406315866;mike_c;to expand: discussing differing religious viewpoints. 769336;1406315881;mike_c;this is different from discussing religious matters that you do not personally hold. 769337;1406315881;ThickAsThieves;not the same as love 769338;1406315886;mircea_popescu;mike_c we're not discussing religious viewpoints, nor are we doing the equivalent for fuckpreferences. 769339;1406315886;ThickAsThieves;you can be wrong 769340;1406315904;mike_c;holy pedantics. 769341;1406315904;mircea_popescu;we are discussing something much broader than that, specifically the limits of agency, human knowledge and so on. 769342;1406315923;mike_c;who is "we"? we are having a discussion about whether you can discuss things 769343;1406315933;mircea_popescu;you and me, earlier, re slaves. 769344;1406315937;mircea_popescu;an' wives. 769345;1406315941;ThickAsThieves;we're meta silly now, debating whether we can debate 769346;1406315943;ThickAsThieves;sorry! 769347;1406315949;mike_c;were those not viewpoints that we personally hold? not simply ideas? 769348;1406315950;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i blame you 769349;1406315975;mircea_popescu;mike_c whether we hold them or not is irrelevant in that context. 769350;1406316003;mircea_popescu;the discussion was proceeding on the strength of what can be 769351;1406316009;mike_c;not to my point though. which is that discussing personally held viewpoints about religion is an exercise in head-to-wall banging. 769352;1406316029;mircea_popescu;not if the people in question are scholars rather than believers. 769353;1406316034;mike_c;yes, agreed. 769354;1406316044;*;mike_c high five 769355;1406316045;ThickAsThieves;no matter much trilema you read, the wife ain't gonna listen! 769356;1406316053;kakobrekla;doesnt even have to be belivers. 769357;1406316063;mircea_popescu;i have no particular reason to suspect you'd go nuts just because specific points you happen to be personally invested in turn out to be wrong or unsustainable. 769358;1406316082;mircea_popescu;otherwise, how's one to discuss investments ? 769359;1406316084;mike_c;more to the point, i am willing to accept that is possible 769360;1406316095;mike_c;religious believers are not 769361;1406316095;mircea_popescu;it'd be all "o, you can't talk good accountingpractices with people who own x stock" 769362;1406316100;mircea_popescu;well... depends now dunnit. 769363;1406316127;mike_c;religious believers will never "turn out to be wrong", so discussing is pointless 769364;1406316135;mircea_popescu;people have often done 180 degree about faces talking here. and those who can't gather on forum not here. so all's well, even if we are invested 769365;1406316151;mike_c;^ not about religion. 769366;1406316170;mircea_popescu;money and sex. 769367;1406316174;mircea_popescu;religion is an afterthought. 769368;1406316249;mike_c;more to the point, let's discuss whether debating discussion is a good idea ;) 769369;1406316264;mircea_popescu;luckily, anything's ontopic in #bitcoin-assets 769370;1406316279;mircea_popescu;mostly because everything's the same thing anyway. 769371;1406316335;mircea_popescu; no matter much trilema you read, the wife ain't gonna listen! << this sounds like a cry for halp 769372;1406316350;mircea_popescu;!up the20year 769373;1406316352;mircea_popescu;;;ident the20year 769374;1406316352;gribble;Nick 'the20year', with hostmask 'the20year!~the20year@50.41.153.63', is identified as user 'the20year', with GPG key id 359D91C634AE8E53, key fingerprint DF515FC27907A1FC3236C7E8359D91C634AE8E53, and bitcoin address None 769375;1406316363;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot the20year 769376;1406316364;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask the20year!~the20year@50.41.153.63. Trust relationship from user assbot to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: Tue Apr 29 11:21:55 2014 769377;1406316372;mircea_popescu;the20year if you pm assbot !up what does itsay ? 769378;1406316379;the20year;(3:25:22 PM) Cannot send to channel 769379;1406316383;mircea_popescu;PM. 769380;1406316385;the20year;!up the20year 769381;1406316391;mircea_popescu;you gotta pm it. 769382;1406316394;the20year;ah 769383;1406316435;the20year;pm gribble? 769384;1406316456;mircea_popescu;assbot 769385;1406316460;the20year;k 769386;1406316496;mike_c;hey the20year. so your brother is HASH? 769387;1406316506;the20year;yes 769388;1406316540;mike_c;is he in the wot yet? 769389;1406316561;the20year;;;gettrust assbot mrstickball 769390;1406316561;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mrstickball: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mrstickball | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickball | Rated since: Fri Jul 5 18:09:54 2013 769391;1406316580;mike_c;;;gettrust the20year mrstickball 769392;1406316580;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user the20year to user mrstickball: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=the20year&dest=mrstickball | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickball | Rated since: Fri Jul 5 18:09:54 2013 769393;1406316593;mike_c;well that better not be him, you don't even trust that guy! 769394;1406316604;the20year;yeah, i need to issue him trust 769395;1406316622;mircea_popescu;the20year you and mrstickball_ are brothers ? 769396;1406316627;the20year;twins actually 769397;1406316634;mircea_popescu;uh. what ?! 769398;1406316647;the20year;i'm pretty sure we're a chubbier version of the winklevoss twins, younger and not connected to FB 769399;1406316668;mircea_popescu;did you ever pull a switch on a girl ? 769400;1406316676;mike_c;!up mrstickball_ 769401;1406316679;the20year;nah , everyone assumes we have though 769402;1406316687;the20year;all the girls we know/have known could tell the difference 769403;1406316688;mircea_popescu;because if they had a twin they'd do it all the time. 769404;1406316689;mrstickball_;mircea_popescu: yes? 769405;1406316692;the20year;usually it's family that gets confused 769406;1406316705;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ hai. 769407;1406316741;mike_c;mrstickball_: you have any experience running a mining farm? 769408;1406316744;benkay; i'm pretty sure we're a chubbier version of the winklevoss twins, younger and not connected to FB // shorter too, indubitably 769409;1406316747;mrstickball_;mike_c: yes 769410;1406316752;the20year;he does, i don't 769411;1406316754;mike_c;how big? 769412;1406316762;mrstickball_;mike_c: primarily GPUs 769413;1406316768;mircea_popescu;twins are what, 4 ppm. so actually b-a has a statistically expected number of twins. 769414;1406316768;mrstickball_;25+ GPU rigs 769415;1406316768;the20year;i'd say about 20x50ft of gpus? 769416;1406316783;mrstickball_;working on more ASIC deployment in the near future 769417;1406316797;the20year;don't forget the slaves he has in the shop working for him too 769418;1406316799;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ can you code ? 769419;1406316810;mrstickball_;not as well as I should 769420;1406316835;mike_c;this seems.. incredibly ambitious. you are going to manufacture & sell your own miners, and run a profitable mining farm. 769421;1406316857;mircea_popescu;mike_c chineze dood did it... 769422;1406316864;the20year;he's been extremely profitable on his own sales side, and has done decently running the farm 769423;1406316865;mrstickball_;mike_c: Manufacture is down the road significantly 769424;1406316885;mrstickball_;Step 1 is more hardware sales and initial deployment of a larger ASIC-based facility 769425;1406316893;the20year;Step 2 is hire slaves 769426;1406316901;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ hardware sales, as in gpus ? 769427;1406316902;mike_c;wives work harder 769428;1406316903;mrstickball_;we've already grossed ~$1m USD in the past 12mo on hardware. Unfortunately, capital is a huge bottleneck 769429;1406316904;the20year;Well, i should say - more slaves 769430;1406316911;mrstickball_;mircea_popescu: ASICs, and a lot of accessories 769431;1406316917;mircea_popescu;so what, you resell ? 769432;1406316922;mrstickball_;generally, yes 769433;1406316930;mike_c;http://buyahash.com/ 769434;1406316932;assbot;Bitcoin Mining Hardware | Asic Mining Hardware 769435;1406316932;mrstickball_;we do have some custom-fabricated equipment 769436;1406316935;mircea_popescu;so what's the biz model like, buy a bulk and sell by item ? 769437;1406316950;mrstickball_;mircea_popescu: yes, generally 769438;1406316978;mircea_popescu;fluffypony makes racks and whatnot, if you need it 769439;1406316988;mrstickball_;I've done a fair bit of business with Riccardo 769440;1406316990;mrstickball_;very good guy 769441;1406316994;fluffypony;;;rated mrstickball_ 769442;1406316994;gribble;You have not yet rated user mrstickball_ 769443;1406316995;fluffypony;;;rated mrstickball 769444;1406316996;mircea_popescu;ah, you know each other 769445;1406316996;gribble;You rated user mrstickball on Thu Apr 17 18:13:39 2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: runs buy-a-hash, which carries openrigs products, and have had several large financial interactions (purchases/sales). 769446;1406316997;fluffypony;:) 769447;1406317007;mircea_popescu;dash threw me :p 769448;1406317010;fluffypony;das WoT! 769449;1406317013;mrstickball_;Yes. fluffypony bought a few dozen risers off of me ages ago 769450;1406317045;mircea_popescu;now all we really need is for someone to implement the wol pow. 769451;1406317063;fluffypony;Proof of WoT! 769452;1406317066;mrstickball_;hardware sales in the US is extremely lucrative 769453;1406317084;mrstickball_;no one does a good job of it. That's why we're working on capital to get a larger building and control a larger portion of the market 769454;1406317112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00082185 = 12.6154 BTC [+] 769455;1406317122;kakobrekla;i read that, i think herbalife. 769456;1406317124;kakobrekla;lol 769457;1406317130;the20year;or walmart 769458;1406317131;mrstickball_;lol 769459;1406317143;the20year;They're just a dirty reseller too 769460;1406317155;mrstickball_;kakobrekla: when we announced that we had S3's in stock, we made $5,000 in 8 minutes 769461;1406317170;mike_c;mrstickball_: why such low profit margins? 769462;1406317177;mike_c;$40k on $1m? 769463;1406317189;mrstickball_;mike_c: bit higher than that after expenses, ect 769464;1406317218;mrstickball_;probably closer to $75-100k after all overhead. One issue that we had was some of our merchant processors have screwed us over 769465;1406317235;the20year;mircea_popescu: how are those bitcoin flyers coming along? 769466;1406317238;mike_c;interesting. lots of fiat sales? 769467;1406317243;mrstickball_;+ we reinvest in inventory very frequently, so profits don't always show up on the books very quickly. I have $25,000 worth of risers behind my desk 769468;1406317250;mrstickball_;mike_c: yes. That is our primary angle 769469;1406317265;mrstickball_;we're willing to engage in fiat sales for crypto hardware. Most companies can't navigate that well 769470;1406317287;mike_c;heh, including you so far :) if you're having processing problems 769471;1406317288;mircea_popescu;the20year iirc nubbins said august ? 769472;1406317294;mrstickball_;most customers are willing to pay a 10-15% premium if your company is willing to do with fiat 769473;1406317300;the20year;Alright, cool 769474;1406317314;mrstickball_;mike_c: that was last year. We've had those fixed for months. But CC processors are essentially criminals that can hold your money for up to 6 months 769475;1406317314;mike_c;well good luck with IPO 769476;1406317316;the20year;How much $$ was lost last year in processing fraud and that whole gambit? $25k? 769477;1406317320;kakobrekla;on a side note, my intel tells me altchains are suffering - noone is hashing. i would expect non asic stuff will take time to sell. 769478;1406317325;mrstickball_;mike_c: thanks. It will be interesting 769479;1406317348;mrstickball_;kakobrekla: that is correct. Back in January, during the last big GPU rush, we were trying to beat the Chinese on sales 769480;1406317361;mrstickball_;there was a period of time we were pushing $5,000/day in riser sales with a 100-300% profit margin 769481;1406317382;the20year;On a good note, I had a very positive call today from a bank to wants to lend to rentalstarter 769482;1406317392;mrstickball_;Unfortunately, when Chinese New Years hit, our factory (and every other) went down. Seemingly when they came back up, some factories re-evaluated their position to move to direct-sales and hurt us a bit 769483;1406317411;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla altchains are kinda doomed 769484;1406317413;fluffypony;great logo: http://i.imgur.com/n9vBs60.jpg 769485;1406317422;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu its not news to me 769486;1406317447;mrstickball_;the vast majority of alts have no purpose and no reason to exist 769487;1406317448;kakobrekla;i told fluffy this will happen months ago 769488;1406317463;mircea_popescu;a little attrition is a great thing anyway. 769489;1406317483;mrstickball_;I wonder which ones survive... I am kind of sad to see Curecoin being so terrible when they were getting a lot of attention for curing cancer 769490;1406317503;kakobrekla;;;s shrani 769491;1406317504;gribble;Error: "s" is not a valid command. 769492;1406317509;kakobrekla;!s shrani 769493;1406317509;assbot;0 results for 'shrani' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shrani 769494;1406317513;kakobrekla;meh 769495;1406317539;kakobrekla;mrstickball_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2014#767022 769496;1406317540;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769497;1406317554;mircea_popescu;a small amount of fail. 769498;1406317580;mrstickball_;wow 769499;1406317582;the20year;maybe those itty bitty transactions will grow to big people one day 769500;1406317587;mrstickball_;I had no idea those coins were so dire 769501;1406317596;mrstickball_;I knew quark was dying, but that bad? Wow 769502;1406317608;mrstickball_;I had a friend cash out of it back in the glory days. We CPU mined a few hundred thousand 769503;1406317616;mrstickball_;but I sold them, thinking they would never go anywhere 769504;1406317714;kakobrekla;'bolje prvi na vasi kakor zadnji v mestu' they say. 769505;1406317826;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/87isRF1.jpg 769506;1406317830;mrstickball_;very true 769507;1406317839;mrstickball_;I had a friend that made about $3,000 off of it on a single PC 769508;1406317871;ThickAsThieves;where can i find the date of each diff change? 769509;1406317876;mrstickball_;sure 769510;1406317885;mrstickball_;https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty 769511;1406317885;assbot;Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom 769512;1406317889;kakobrekla;in your local blockchain file tat 769513;1406317899;mrstickball_;look at the bottom, below the charts. Its not comprehensive, but goes back a few months 769514;1406317908;mircea_popescu;fluffypony lol why not market it as a soup stirrer 769515;1406317912;mrstickball_;So what fun things are you up to, ThickAsThieves ? 769516;1406317917;ThickAsThieves;thx! 769517;1406317922;mrstickball_;Also, is anyone going to Cryptolina in North Carolina? 769518;1406317929;ThickAsThieves;me, i read tea leaves mostly 769519;1406317988;mrstickball_;Very interesting. I can't stand tea 769520;1406318016;mircea_popescu;!s netflix 769521;1406318017;assbot;63 results for 'netflix' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=netflix 769522;1406318022;ThickAsThieves;i go back and forth 769523;1406318025;ThickAsThieves;!s nflx 769524;1406318026;assbot;14 results for 'nflx' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nflx 769525;1406318031;mircea_popescu;basically hes' been mostly doing netflix these days. getting fat on teh couch 769526;1406318035;ThickAsThieves;coffee mode lately 769527;1406318104;mrstickball_;FWIW, if anyone is going to that conference, I'll gladly take them out for dinner as a member of #bitcoin-assets 769528;1406318153;ThickAsThieves;not a fan of NC 769529;1406318226;mrstickball_;its been a long time since I've been there 769530;1406318229;mrstickball_;hi bitcoinpete 769531;1406318284;bitcoinpete;howdy mrstickball_ 769532;1406318291;bitcoinpete;who are you again? 769533;1406318311;mrstickball_;my name is Ben 769534;1406318347;bitcoinpete;and what do you do, Ben? 769535;1406318407;mircea_popescu;do we mostly have bens here ? 769536;1406318411;BingoBoingo;%t 769537;1406318412;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 230 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 78k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 209 769538;1406318421;mrstickball_;run a business 769539;1406318432;mrstickball_;I think you were talking about it yesterday 769540;1406318433;mrstickball_;HASH 769541;1406318491;bitcoinpete;ey no way 769542;1406318495;mrstickball_;yeah 769543;1406318501;bitcoinpete;the new havelock thingy 769544;1406318505;mrstickball_;Correct 769545;1406318564;bitcoinpete;so if i understand correctly, you're buying and selling mining equipment on ebay, mining on your own, and you need to ipo because… ? 769546;1406318629;mircea_popescu;;;google mo money mo money have a look an' here we go 769547;1406318630;gribble;Mo' money, mo' problems, not how I see, huh – Paperbond: ; NOTORIOUS B.I.G. LYRICS - Mo Money Mo Problems - A-Z Lyrics: ; Mo Money Mo Problems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message) 769548;1406318691;bitcoinpete;notorious would've loved bitcoin ipos: mo of other people's money and no problems! 769549;1406318713;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgPTkIulEI 769550;1406318713;assbot;Mad Men: The Best Things in Life Are Free - Bert Cooper - YouTube 769551;1406318722;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2bozou/fanboi_mods_remove_uncomfortable_facts_about/ 769552;1406318722;assbot;Fanboi mods remove uncomfortable facts about Peter Todd within minutes : Buttcoin 769553;1406318732;ThickAsThieves;;;google OPP 769554;1406318733;gribble;O.P.P. (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Urban Dictionary: OPP: ; O.P.P. - Naughty By Nature (HQ Audio) - YouTube: 769555;1406318758;bitcoinpete;mrstickball_: are you a regular reader of the logs then? 769556;1406318770;ThickAsThieves;;;bcstats 769557;1406318772;gribble;Current Blocks: 312469 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 10 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18755529721.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.18636 769558;1406318776;bitcoinpete;cuz we mention all kinds of people and they rarely show up 769559;1406318797;bitcoinpete;personally, having anthony or vitalik here would be shweeeet 769560;1406318822;bitcoinpete;watching them try to explain wtf a "smart contract" even is… 769561;1406318838;bitcoinpete;maybe we should make them a sexy video? 769562;1406318926;ThickAsThieves;!up mrstickball_ 769563;1406318932;mrstickball_;thank you! 769564;1406318936;ThickAsThieves;np 769565;1406318936;mike_c;they don't deserve a video 769566;1406318944;mrstickball_;Re: Your question about capital 769567;1406318955;mrstickball_;or the IPO, rather 769568;1406318979;BingoBoingo;%ob 769569;1406318981;atcbot;30k@278 18k@242 42k@239 | 60k@210 45k@201 400k@199 769570;1406318987;mrstickball_;I/we have enough capital to continue ad-nauseum at about $100k of inventory. The problem is that we cannot grow beyond that, because of overhead (paying 2 employees, a building, ect) 769571;1406319034;mrstickball_;Given the track record of how we've sold products, the belief is that more capital can be assigned to leverage better deals with manufacturers, and simply do more business, since the overhead and other costs are static at this point 769572;1406319067;mrstickball_;additionally, it turns out that our HQ is a few miles away from one of the largest PC retailers in the US - Micro Center 769573;1406319083;mrstickball_;they want crypto products, and want us to supply them. But we can't swing $250,000 of inventory on a net-30 payment model 769574;1406319102;mrstickball_;especially when our margins to them are about 10% after packaging and logistics costs 769575;1406319118;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ yeah but i mean... so then why commit suicide with havelock lol 769576;1406319138;mrstickball_;because I couldn't commit suicide with you, Mr Popescu :-) 769577;1406319159;BingoBoingo;http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58213328-78/byrge-police-wrote-candidate.html.csp 769578;1406319159;assbot;Legislative candidate faces kidnapping, assault charges | The Salt Lake Tribune 769579;1406319212;BingoBoingo;If a candidate for the legislature can pistol whip a motherfucker for not paying their pain pill debt... 769580;1406319268;bitcoinpete;@slushcz: I'm so overworked that I even cannot celebrate that we've shipped all #bitcoin #trezor preorders few moments ago. 769581;1406319283;mrstickball_;bitcoinpete: congrats! 769582;1406319304;mrstickball_;who are you using to get the trezor's shipped out with? 769583;1406319330;bitcoinpete;mrstickball_: a see, i'm not slushcz… https://twitter.com/slushcz/status/492748527689547776 769584;1406319336;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete =/= Slush 769585;1406319340;mrstickball_;my apologies 769586;1406319343;mircea_popescu;poor slush. 769587;1406319388;mrstickball_;I figured you were famous, and assumed it was you, bitcoinpete 769588;1406319391;bitcoinpete;mrstickball_: not at all. i haven't produced anything more tangible than a blog. slush sold $200 dongles for 2btc each 769589;1406319401;mrstickball_;Crazy 769590;1406319429;bitcoinpete;mrstickball_: famous? me? only in the 1% ;) 769591;1406319508;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete they sold for 2 btc long ago tho neh ? 769592;1406319527;bitcoinpete;last summer iirc 769593;1406319528;rithm;there's a 1%? 769594;1406319532;mrstickball_;I can't imagine fab costs on that 769595;1406319545;mrstickball_;$10? $20? 769596;1406319563;bitcoinpete;12 months ago *is* a pretty long time… 769597;1406319564;mrstickball_;maybe $25 with the fancy LCD screen 769598;1406319591;bitcoinpete;maybe he broke the bank on all dat entropeez 769599;1406319592;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete in fairness a year ago btc was what, less than $100 769600;1406319604;mrstickball_;about $75 769601;1406319629;mrstickball_;Its about at the bottom of the post-April crash 769602;1406319668;bitcoinpete;$90 a year ago today 769603;1406319679;mrstickball_;ah 769604;1406319680;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-myth-of-the-us-social-mobility/ 769605;1406319693;bitcoinpete;at last... 769606;1406319823;chetty;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10982423/British-students-vagina-pants-are-anatomically-correct.html 769607;1406319824;assbot;British student's vagina pants are anatomically correct - Telegraph 769608;1406319870;bitcoinpete;mrstickball_: contact says you're in hk… https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HASH 769609;1406319871;assbot;Havelock Investments 769610;1406319896;mrstickball_;company is in HK. I am the POC for the US side of things 769611;1406319934;mircea_popescu;chetty im pretty sure ovaries are higher in the girl 769612;1406319948;mircea_popescu;that'd be her hip. 769613;1406319975;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ person of color ? 769614;1406319987;chetty;looks about right to me 769615;1406320022;mrstickball_;not that I am aware of, mircea_popescu 769616;1406320050;mircea_popescu;chetty the acetabulum is exactly directly under where the ovary's painted. 769617;1406320072;mircea_popescu;mrstickball_ well then what, piece of cake ? are you in film ? 769618;1406320094;mrstickball_;I am not sure what you're getting at? 769619;1406320107;mircea_popescu;;;ud poc 769620;1406320112;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poc | poc. people of color, as in everybody except caucasians. Why is economic and political power in the hands of white folks if poc together make a majority? 769621;1406320132;mrstickball_;ah, sorry 769622;1406320134;mrstickball_;point of contact 769623;1406320150;mrstickball_;My mind is not fully with me. Not enough sleep last night 769624;1406320181;mircea_popescu;what's a point of contact do ? 769625;1406320218;mrstickball_;answer questions/deal with whatever needs to be done 769626;1406320375;mircea_popescu;ic. 769627;1406320415;mircea_popescu;lulz of the day : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw 769628;1406320415;assbot;George Bernard Shaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 769629;1406320421;mircea_popescu;according to wikipedia, shaw was "an ardent socialist". 769630;1406320449;chetty;wasnt he a founder of the Fabians? 769631;1406320452;mrstickball_;Thomas Sowell has a lot of great Shaw quotes in his books 769632;1406320453;mircea_popescu;ahh looking forward to some bitcoin history rewriting of our own. didja know obama was an ardent elitist ? 769633;1406320456;mircea_popescu;heard it here first. 769634;1406320493;mircea_popescu;chetty guy was an ardent NATIONAL socialist. that's a nazi. 769635;1406320522;mrstickball_;but he was on the side of the good-guy nazis 769636;1406320525;mrstickball_;not the bad-guy nazis 769637;1406320529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.014889 = 1.1613 BTC [+] 769638;1406320552;chetty;eh if it ends in 'ist' its a bad idea 769639;1406320604;mircea_popescu;right right. 769640;1406320633;mircea_popescu;i had no idea libertards had progressed past being embarassed by the fact that nobody in the classical period agreed with their nonsense into outright claiming they did. 769641;1406320647;mircea_popescu;to hear stalin tell it, lenin was not only a major stalinist but he didn't think much of trotski either. 769642;1406320687;chetty;eh Obama has been claiming Regan would have agreed with him lately 769643;1406320721;mircea_popescu;im sure everyone's in agreement with obama : change is now imperatively necessary. 769644;1406320733;benkay;only change i want is bear market now 769645;1406320908;BingoBoingo;benkay> only change i want is beer market now << FTFY 769646;1406320955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.01495592 = 0.6281 BTC [-] {2} 769647;1406321039;mircea_popescu;there is a beer market. 769648;1406321138;chetty;Pres Obama supports letting Central Americans apply for US refugee status in their home countries, rather than taking a dangerous journey. 769649;1406321144;benkay;mircea_popescu: is there a microbrew market in bsas? 769650;1406321175;mircea_popescu;i have no idea. not much of a beer guy myself. 769651;1406321180;benkay;yeah, i can tell. 769652;1406321191;mircea_popescu;what gave it away ben ? 769653;1406321196;benkay;ew don't call me that 769654;1406321223;benkay;uh the constant harping on cognac and champagne? 769655;1406321289;chetty;http://thesaurus.com/browse/obstructionist 769656;1406321290;assbot;Obstructionist Synonyms, Obstructionist Antonyms | Thesaurus.com 769657;1406321290;mircea_popescu;you know every time someone misses a tab you'll be ben instead of benkay 769658;1406321340;benkay;guess i'm due for a nick change then 769659;1406321344;mircea_popescu;chetty i dunno, i thought obstructionist is someone who opposes a process for emotional rather than rational reasons. 769660;1406321452;mircea_popescu;The fluffy pony community is divided into two communities: abuse and hugbox. Abusers are people who often write stories or draw pictures of fluffy ponies being tortured and often killed by being attacked by humans, being attacked by animals, burning to death with fire or acid, getting cut in half, drowning, etc. These abusers often attack fluffy ponies because of their low intelligence, bratty and childlike personality 769661;1406321452;mircea_popescu;, physical weakness, destruction of harvest, and overpopulation. Fluffy Ponies can often die from their own stupidity such as falling off a cliff when attempting to fly, getting run over by a car because they thought it was a friend, eating bad foods, etc. Some abusers often abuse fluffy ponies as if they were clearing out a vermin infestation, while others abuse them for bad deeds such as defecating at the wrong place 769662;1406321456;mircea_popescu;(bad poopies) or a mare killing their own baby because of being born a runt (bad babbeh). Abusers consist of the majority of the site Fluffybooru with Ginger_Fig, Mwike, and deathproofpony being the most notable examples. 769663;1406321460;mircea_popescu;holy shit sherlock! 769664;1406321566;chetty;its just the newspeak definiton of obstructionist, anybody that doesn't agree with libtards 769665;1406321898;benkay;lol i just checked my bitbet referral addr 769666;1406321917;benkay;maybe i should resume blogging 769667;1406321989;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btau4jfIQAAYTot.jpg 769668;1406322008;pankkake;"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" for a almost text only static blog, lol 769669;1406322040;pankkake;lol, with that reactor on top, right 769670;1406322139;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun this always cracks me up by the way 769671;1406322139;assbot;Chicken gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 769672;1406322316;mircea_popescu;benkay why did you stop anyway 769673;1406322389;benkay;!s benkay blog 769674;1406322390;assbot;71 results for 'benkay blog' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=benkay+blog 769675;1406322405;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759236 769676;1406322406;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769677;1406322432;mircea_popescu;if that' sthe case you'r doing something wrong. 769678;1406322440;benkay;yeah? 769679;1406322488;benkay;what's the right way to do it? 769680;1406322491;mircea_popescu;i think so yeah. 769681;1406322494;mircea_popescu;well now that i dunno. 769682;1406322520;mike_c;1) make blog 2) slap on btcalpha bitbet referral image 3) retire 769683;1406322528;mike_c;just ask TaT 769684;1406322542;benkay;mike_c: that's where this conversation started. 769685;1406322559;benkay; lol i just checked my bitbet referral addr 769686;1406322559;benkay; maybe i should resume blogging 769687;1406322559;benkay; 769688;1406322575;benkay;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759254 769689;1406322575;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769690;1406322584;mike_c;your referral addy got some hits or dried up? i was confused. 769691;1406322656;benkay;got some coins dumped into it 769692;1406322663;mike_c;nice 769693;1406322678;benkay;yeah 769694;1406322700;mircea_popescu;pigeons: my stocks went down too, but the price doesn't matter, i'll just take a temporary loss and not sell. how long is temporary? << you don't understand what loss means in this context. 769695;1406322711;mircea_popescu;anyone ever is thrilled to take a taxable-income-loss. 769696;1406322789;moiety;ThickAsThieves: omg does it really sound like i say cunt?! D; 769697;1406322864;mircea_popescu;mike_c very well known, 2004 : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3639679.stm 2008 : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/16/password_security/ 769698;1406322864;assbot;BBC NEWS | Technology | Passwords revealed by sweet deal 769699;1406322864;assbot;Women love chocolate more than password security The Register 769700;1406322872;mircea_popescu;funny how this never comes up in discussions about "women in tech" 769701;1406322923;mircea_popescu;artifexd: I come back from Ecuador and realize that they just banned bitcoin entirely because they're going to make their own cryptocurrency. I guess my wife was right all along when she said Correa was a dumb ass. <<< let the kids have their fun. 769702;1406322959;chetty;well I bet males give up passwords pretty easy too, just different incentives 769703;1406322976;mike_c;ah. this is a good point. chocolate is just wrong bait. 769704;1406322978;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: lots of text for 1btc. << funny how little money the vocal periphery actually controls. 769705;1406322992;mircea_popescu;peter schif and amgi metals are worth 1 disposable btc ? lulzk. 769706;1406323022;mircea_popescu;mike_c this is factually true. no govt drone ever kept a secret when tits were nude on the table. 769707;1406323040;mike_c;oldest spy trick in the book 769708;1406323135;mircea_popescu;anyway, gold btc price bets don't seem to garner much interest these days http://bitbet.us/bet/977/btc-price-to-rise-above-1oz-of-gold/ 769709;1406323136;assbot;BitBet - BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold before November :: 0.19 B (37%) on Yes, 0.32 B (63%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 74`918 (100`000 to 1) 769710;1406323185;mircea_popescu;i guess schiff / macaskill can claim moar bet volume than bitbet on that one lol. 769711;1406323214;mircea_popescu;o, nm, there's more http://bitbet.us/bet/976/btc-price-to-rise-above-1oz-of-gold/ 769712;1406323214;assbot;BitBet - BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold :: 1.04 B (80%) on Yes, 0.26 B (20%) on No | closing in 9 months 1 week| weight: 92`472 (100`000 to 1) 769713;1406323215;mircea_popescu;awell. 769714;1406323252;mike_c;nobody on bitbet would be dumb enough to bet on gold against btc in 5 years 769715;1406323275;mircea_popescu;it's a hedge i guess. 769716;1406323280;mike_c;it's 80% yes on a 9 month bet 769717;1406323308;mircea_popescu;"Rather, the decline is cyclical and as the economy improves, Furman said, millennial headship rates will improve, which could translate into eventual ownership." <<< ahahaha no fucking way. 769718;1406323324;mircea_popescu;what headship ? millenials want to live in herds, as slaves, with a master. 769719;1406323329;mircea_popescu;this is what subreddits are all about. 769720;1406323346;mircea_popescu;five to ten young men in a living unit, three to six young women. 769721;1406323346;benkay;i don't know anyone my age who seriously thinks they'll be buying a house anywhere anytime soon 769722;1406323356;mircea_popescu;benkay that's not even it. HEADSHIP. 769723;1406323359;mircea_popescu;you know what that is ? 769724;1406323370;benkay;nfc 769725;1406323375;mircea_popescu;ok, lemme clue you in. 769726;1406323384;benkay;leadership summat? 769727;1406323386;benkay;please 769728;1406323396;mircea_popescu;headship is the internalised delusion that it is worth your while to regard the world so that if a water pipe breaks you pay for it to be fixed. 769729;1406323403;mircea_popescu;rather than shrug and call the landlord. 769730;1406323430;mircea_popescu;basically, it's like being a parent, except for no benefit and much more upfront expenditure of skill and resources. 769731;1406323447;mike_c;kakobrekla: updating hourly now. 769732;1406323456;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00082266 = 29.698 BTC [+] {2} 769733;1406323471;benkay;wth 769734;1406323473;benkay;who does that 769735;1406323480;mircea_popescu;benkay your parents, and other idiots thatr age. 769736;1406323489;mircea_popescu;this is why headship is so impoirtant in discussions of "economy" on the govt side : 769737;1406323498;BingoBoingo;!mpif 769738;1406323498;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] 769739;1406323499;mircea_popescu;the headship count is a rough proxy for how much money the govt could steal in ap inh 769740;1406323499;benkay;hang on headship applies if you own as well? 769741;1406323507;mircea_popescu;in a pinch* 769742;1406323518;mike_c;what did jurov mean before? "jurov:mircea_popescu: looks like the F.MPIF perpetrator wants to withdraw" 769743;1406323522;mircea_popescu;benkay well yes. you "own" it so here's what the govt wants from you now. 769744;1406323532;mircea_popescu;a) that you go fight in iraq ; b) that you pay for X Y Z 769745;1406323536;mircea_popescu;c) that you so and so. 769746;1406323549;mircea_popescu;mike_c i took it to mean that he wants deposits flushed. 769747;1406323553;mircea_popescu;if he didn't, tough for him. 769748;1406323570;mike_c;ah ah. i thought somebody was trying to back out of a trade (which is obviously silly) 769749;1406323591;mircea_popescu;i have nfi how that'd work lol. 769750;1406323598;*;benkay is so confused 769751;1406323604;mike_c;yes, hence my confusion when you said you were on it :) 769752;1406323622;jurov;mike_c certain dude who sold mpif did it on coinbr 769753;1406323629;jurov;and wanted to withdraw 769754;1406323640;mike_c;i get it now. i was like "there's a mpex undo button??" 769755;1406323652;jurov;since it was quite a sum, i proceeded to withdraw directly from mpex 769756;1406323659;jurov;and then asked mircea to flush 769757;1406323735;mircea_popescu;share with the group benkay . 769758;1406323776;BingoBoingo;!up fats_cd03 769759;1406323783;jurov;we have this variety speak with mircea 769760;1406323800;fats_cd03;hi qts 769761;1406323808;mircea_popescu;and no one understands it when they read their morning logs. 769762;1406323810;mircea_popescu;!up ntio 769763;1406323816;mike_c;benkay: somebody dumped mpif to way below nav earlier today. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#769094 769764;1406323816;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769765;1406323847;mircea_popescu;mike_c well, "Way below" in sanity land. in bitcoin... shit on havelock';s been trading 50-60% nav, so... 769766;1406323850;mircea_popescu;10% no big deal. 769767;1406323874;benkay;mike_c: yeah, i saw that. 769768;1406323899;mike_c;yes. just selling 1 btc for 0.9 btc always strikes me as nuts. i guess if you need the liquidity. 769769;1406323909;benkay;mircea_popescu: i'm still confused about 'headship'. how is it a measure for pinchable assets? and how is fixing a pipe in a house you're paying the mortgage on a foolish thing? 769770;1406323932;mircea_popescu;benkay why would you be paying the upkeep of something you don't own ? 769771;1406323940;mircea_popescu;basically the us has been degrading ownership over the past decades 769772;1406323948;mircea_popescu;the attractiveness of ownership is slowly following 769773;1406323956;mircea_popescu;and they're trying to come to terms with this. 769774;1406324026;nubbins`;but without ownership, there cannot be pride! 769775;1406324038;mircea_popescu;why not ? reddit gold and karma. 769776;1406324047;nubbins`;flim-flammery! 769777;1406324053;mircea_popescu;l'enfer c'est l'autres, no ? 769778;1406324063;nubbins`;oui, c'est trop vrai 769779;1406324123;benkay;the thesis is that because there's no alloidal title in the us, one doesn't actually own the place? 769780;1406324125;benkay;mircea_popescu: 769781;1406324156;nubbins`;protip: read this line and its two predecessors in reverse order 769782;1406324167;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0TSGNHD.txt ) 769783;1406324167;nubbins`;!b 3 769784;1406324167;mircea_popescu;benkay as compared to the rights and privileges ownership conferred upon your grandfather, ownership confers nothing much to you today. 769785;1406324183;mircea_popescu;consequently, every able bodied male in your grandfather's age group tried desperately to own. 769786;1406324190;mircea_popescu;comparatively, your peers don't give a shit. 769787;1406324229;benkay;ah 769788;1406324233;nubbins`;giving up 'nothing much' in favor of 'nothing' :o 769789;1406324244;mircea_popescu;they measure how much of a shit your peers give under "headship" 769790;1406324260;chetty;we live in a disposable world, whats the point in owning trash 769791;1406324267;fluffypony;this is seriously impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8b1zWOgOKA 769792;1406324267;assbot;Assassin's Creed Unity Meets Parkour in Real Life - 4K! - YouTube 769793;1406324269;mircea_popescu;and the difference between real value and actual headship is how much actual value (not printed dollars) "they have" stashed away in that particular accumulator. 769794;1406324320;mircea_popescu;benkay consider the reverse of this situation : during the azn crisis in the 2000s, people were queing up to donate their privately held gold to prop the centra lbank. 769795;1406324323;mircea_popescu;that's headship. 769796;1406324364;mircea_popescu;there's a very fine equilibrium between how popular a government is and how much support it can muster. 769797;1406324386;mircea_popescu;as things stand right now, if someone could somehow be bothered to invade, the us would simply collapse and that's that. 769798;1406324395;chetty;would anyone give the FED a dime? 769799;1406324437;mircea_popescu;would any of the people who target practice use their arms on the invaders or on the feds ? 769800;1406324461;chetty;enie meanie miny moe 769801;1406324476;mircea_popescu;no wonder gun ownership is perceioved as such a problem. 769802;1406324497;mircea_popescu;sure in an idealised, us-centric world as the naive represent thngs to be, a well armed citizenry is the guarantee and bla bla. 769803;1406324513;mircea_popescu;but in the real world of real politik, an armed opressed populace is fucking dangerous, it'll side with the enemy. 769804;1406324519;fluffypony;benkay / anyone else - if you come across someone really, really junior who has the barest smattering of C / C++ and is keen on a testing role that can grow into a dev role, please let me know 769805;1406324542;mircea_popescu;someone was actually doing hr for a living, lemme see here. 769806;1406324579;benkay;fluffypony: how many hours/wk, at what rate? 769807;1406324625;fluffypony;benkay: rate is negotiable, but I'm expecting junior junior;) I'd expect a weekly commitment of 15 - 40 hours 769808;1406324643;benkay;this is for a coin thing? 769809;1406324665;fluffypony;it's for two unrelated projects 769810;1406324677;benkay;;;ticker 769811;1406324679;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 599.02, Best ask: 600.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.76000, Last trade: 600.78, 24 hour volume: 5045.56318982, 24 hour low: 592.97, 24 hour high: 609.65, 24 hour vwap: 600.697679446 769812;1406324688;benkay;;;calc 1*[ticker] 769813;1406324689;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 769814;1406324693;benkay;;;calc 1*[;;ticker] 769815;1406324693;gribble;Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command. 769816;1406324703;benkay;dafuq does this thing want 769817;1406324755;benkay;fluffypony: by junior junior i imagine you want sub 0.1 B/hr 769818;1406324766;fluffypony;benkay: yes 769819;1406324779;mike_c;;;calc 1 * [ticker --last] 769820;1406324780;gribble;599.02 769821;1406324790;fluffypony;mike_c has the magic touch 769822;1406324797;mike_c;although it probably wanted you to multiply by 1 in your head 769823;1406324802;benkay;;;calc 1 * [ticker] 769824;1406324804;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 769825;1406324807;mircea_popescu;benkay 0.01 should be enough for anyone. 769826;1406324821;benkay;well it was for the syntax, not the calculation, mike_c 769827;1406324839;benkay;six bucks/hr, mircea_popescu ? 769828;1406324846;mircea_popescu;benkay fiverrr 769829;1406324849;mike_c;i think it was thestringpuller that was always using calc for stuff like x / 100 :) 769830;1406324875;benkay;;;bc24hrprc 769831;1406324876;gribble;Error: "bc24hrprc" is not a valid command. 769832;1406324877;benkay;bah 769833;1406324878;benkay;anyways 769834;1406324892;benkay;i got mouths to feed 769835;1406324916;BingoBoingo;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/25/2017202/russia-posts-110000-bounty-for-cracking-tors-privacy 769836;1406324918;assbot;Russia Posts $110,000 Bounty For Cracking Tor's Privacy - Slashdot 769837;1406324921;jurov;!up Lycerion 769838;1406324926;mike_c;;;bc,24hprc 769839;1406324927;gribble;602.03 769840;1406324944;mircea_popescu;surprising literally no one. 769841;1406324957;benkay;thanks, mike_c 769842;1406324964;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/25/the-same-thing/ 769843;1406325003;mircea_popescu;!up mus1cb0x 769844;1406325016;mus1cb0x;hiya 769845;1406325020;mircea_popescu;ello. 769846;1406325030;mike_c;fluffypony: i might know a student interested in that deal. you want 15 hrs or 40 hrs? cuz he wouldn't have 40. 769847;1406325090;fluffypony;mike_c: it's up to what they can commit - I'm happy with a part time role as long as they stay commited and active 769848;1406325121;mike_c;ok, i will enquire. what's the range on pay 769849;1406325135;mike_c;or the low end, or whatever 769850;1406325217;fluffypony;mike_c: tough to say - I'd be expecting the BTC equivalent of anything from $10 to $15 hourly 769851;1406325250;mike_c;k 769852;1406325253;mircea_popescu;;;seen RagnarDanneskjol 769853;1406325253;gribble;RagnarDanneskjol was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 5 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL 769854;1406325258;mircea_popescu;that long huh. 769855;1406325287;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Wait, what are you hiring? 769856;1406325291;mircea_popescu;;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2014#769804 769857;1406325291;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 769858;1406325291;gribble;The operation succeeded. 769859;1406325293;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: tester 769860;1406325295;mircea_popescu;!up Mantrid 769861;1406325320;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Like for your dildoes, your wife... what's being tested? 769862;1406325339;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: software tester, obviously, why would a dildo tester need to know a smattering of C / C++ :-P 769863;1406325396;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: to make sure the dildo doesn't smash its stack on exceptions 769864;1406325401;fluffypony;hah hah 769865;1406325412;fluffypony;depends on if we're using it as a back massager 769866;1406325521;mircea_popescu;. Among the top cities that may see a surge are Austin and Dallas in Texas, as well as Denver and Des Moines, Iowa. 769867;1406325524;mircea_popescu;des moines ? srsly ? 769868;1406325536;mircea_popescu;"i wanna move to des moines" said nobody ever. 769869;1406325544;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/11C9CMY.txt ) 769870;1406325544;BingoBoingo;!b 3 769871;1406325574;mircea_popescu;this nuanced view is so nuanced it's about to collapse into a nuancelingularity. 769872;1406325611;BingoBoingo;Well Des Moines is prolly the only place to move if you want to be a gay married pig farmer... 769873;1406325657;bitcoinpete;sounds like the last refuge of the sane american 769874;1406325721;mike_c;it's all about percentages. des moines goes from 10 to 11 and population increased 10%! 769875;1406325774;mircea_popescu;10 to 11 whats ? 769876;1406325800;BingoBoingo;;;google spinal tap 769877;1406325800;gribble;Spinal Tap Fan Site and This is Spinal Tap: ; Spinal Tap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Spinal Tap (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 769878;1406326533;benkay;turn it up to eleven! 769879;1406326578;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 769880;1406326580;gribble;Current Blocks: 312481 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 2014 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 6 hours, 43 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 24871389581.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.7434 769881;1406326653;decimation;lol from asciilifeform's millenial housing link: "At the same time, there?s good reason to believe that millennials, those ages 18 to 34, aren't that different from other generations and will pick up their purchasing before too long ", then the article proceeds to list reasons why they won't purchase 769882;1406326682;decimation;most of the "wealth" in the major metro areas is actually held in the housing stock 769883;1406326715;decimation;I wonder what percentage of households in say DC would be able to purchase their own home (assuming they didn't have their "house wealth) 769884;1406326732;mircea_popescu;1% 769885;1406326770;mircea_popescu;!up bitspill 769886;1406326774;mircea_popescu;who spilled da bits ? 769887;1406326865;decimation;note that the areas that have increasing millennial home-buying are all low-cost areas that have escaped bezzle inflation: "Among the top cities that may see a surge are Austin and Dallas in Texas, as well as Denver and Des Moines, Iowa. " 769888;1406326873;mircea_popescu;yup 769889;1406326915;decimation;note those cities largely lack gov't jobs, and lack the primary patrons of bezzle money (big finance, welfare, defense contractors) 769890;1406326945;mircea_popescu;yup 769891;1406326964;bitcoinpete;http://trilema.com/2014/the-myth-of-the-us-social-mobility/#comment-103284 769892;1406326965;assbot;The myth of the US social mobility. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 769893;1406326991;decimation;so we have a situation where people living in Bethesda have kids who have to move to Kansas because the people in Bethesda don't want to admit that they are poor 769894;1406327004;decimation;it's apparently easier to have your kids leave you than to admit that you suck 769895;1406327006;mircea_popescu;yup 769896;1406327010;mircea_popescu;i need a card. 769897;1406327018;decimation;heh 769898;1406327053;mircea_popescu;us folk can't admit they suck andmore than classical japanese can admit emperor is a dumbass. 769899;1406327055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 99 @ 0.01152426 = 1.1409 BTC [-] {8} 769900;1406327116;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 268 @ 0.00294999 = 0.7906 BTC [+] 769901;1406327127;mircea_popescu;but that aside, kids moving away is a good thing anyway. 769902;1406327177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.00297716 = 0.7443 BTC [+] {3} 769903;1406327293;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: how so? 769904;1406327304;bitcoinpete;not that i disagree... 769905;1406327469;mircea_popescu;individuation happens with hardship. the point of fambly sticking together is to control hardship through approaching it a certain way, much like a ship approaches waves a certain way. 769906;1406327474;mircea_popescu;the bow is not the kids. 769907;1406327521;mircea_popescu;if the average lifespan (esp for males) is in the low 40s, then sticking together family is perfect : by the time father croaks, kids are just old enough to pick up the pieces. 769908;1406327543;mircea_popescu;with 50+ age expectancy, this model is disastrous, basically if humans were a functional species sexual maturity'd skip a generation altogethere. 769909;1406327559;mircea_popescu;lookl at the british crown : the fact that charles actually reached sexual maturity is to the detriment of everyone. 769910;1406327568;mircea_popescu;might as well skipped him went straight from lizzie to the kids. 769911;1406327858;benkay;"the myth of US Social mobility is worse than mythical : it’s going the other way." // this is pretty well known among the 40-50 yo socialist set, and my generation seems to just accept it 769912;1406327878;benkay;"i'll die poor, what of it. let's have another pabst and talk about the latest pictures on instagram." 769913;1406327909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 421 @ 0.0029775 = 1.2535 BTC [+] 769914;1406327948;decimation;there's some truth to that mircea. I suspect that the nuclear family was probably a reaction to this very problem 769915;1406327956;mircea_popescu;decimation obv. 769916;1406327965;mircea_popescu;benkay "imposing your will on the environment is evil anwyay" 769917;1406327978;mircea_popescu;this would be why columbia's wearing the stripes and seeing the stars. 769918;1406327987;decimation;The trouble is that in the case of the DC area, for instance, the parents also are taking up the economic opportunties 769919;1406328007;benkay; this would be why columbia's wearing the stripes and seeing the stars. // pardon me? 769920;1406328019;mircea_popescu;benkay http://trilema.com/2014/just-how-much-do-you-know-about-washing-diapers/ scroll down 769921;1406328020;assbot;Just how much do you know about washing diapers ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 769922;1406328024;decimation;only so many gov't and indirect gov't jobs, and they are handed out in a FILO queue 769923;1406328252;benkay;i still don't understand. strips = stockings and stars = negroes? 769924;1406328258;benkay;just getting fucked hard? 769925;1406328268;mircea_popescu;well "seeing stars" is this you know, being hit 769926;1406328276;benkay;right i'm with you 769927;1406328305;benkay;columbia standing in for america. getting blapped over the head and wearing welts? 769928;1406328324;mircea_popescu;i guess this isn't my best joke. 769929;1406328397;benkay;or i'm retarded, take your pick. 769930;1406328413;benkay;maybe i'm just trying to get you to explain it and ruin teh lulz 769931;1406329129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.16199839 = 2.268 BTC [+] {2} 769932;1406329697;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: opressed populace... it'll side with the enemy << who will invade usa? martians? and should they invade, for what purpose other than rounding up inhabitants for biodiesel? one might suppose folks would support usg over biodiesel harvesters? 769933;1406329855;asciilifeform;tor prize << ad gone because prize claimed in five seconds. because contest was trivial. 769934;1406329968;asciilifeform;columbia's wearing the stripes and seeing the stars << http://thebrendans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/screen-shot-2014-05-05-at-1-58-38-pm.png 769935;1406330598;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, will spend time learning more about shares / dividends and mpex s.mg and after that I'll probably drop a nice presentation / documentation link you way and see if we can figure something out that works for both of us 769936;1406330611;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight not a bad idea. 769937;1406330619;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the arabs. because they're naive. 769938;1406330649;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: so, can you picture an american faction siding with arabs ? 769939;1406330692;DreadKnight;r* 769940;1406330693;mircea_popescu;yep. 769941;1406330735;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, have you bothered with HoMM4 and the rest of the sequels? 769942;1406330738;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform happened once before you know ? how did they conquer ur ? 769943;1406330750;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i tried them, for half a day. 769944;1406330752;mircea_popescu;pure crap. 769945;1406330776;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.01181222 = 1.1812 BTC [+] 769946;1406330856;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2010/eroii/ mostly for comments. 769947;1406330857;assbot;Eroii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 769948;1406330893;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, good; will check that out 769949;1406331606;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, oh lols, seems it's one of your per fee articles, controversial approach for making money out of blogging :) 769950;1406332344;thestringpuller;hmm 769951;1406332657;moiety;every friday freenode has a stroke it seems 769952;1406332693;thestringpuller;i don't think I've seen you in sex week moiety 769953;1406332741;moiety;lots going on thestringpuller how are things with you? 769954;1406332757;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, read the homm related comments, seen people defeating pretty much any neutral army without having many units of their own by exploiting the berserk spell in homm3, really OP, hypnotize can't compare overall; lame example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8DKlEbAv1U 769955;1406332757;assbot;How to defeat the 3500 Naga Queens in HOMM3's Dragon Slayer campaign. - YouTube 769956;1406332767;thestringpuller;I'm very glad it is Friday. 769957;1406332787;thestringpuller;Will probably play video games while I intoxicate myself at the pub up the street. 769958;1406332803;moiety;youplay video games at the pub?! 769959;1406332809;moiety;i wanna go to that pub! 769960;1406332834;moiety;!up stormlight 769961;1406332916;thestringpuller;well there is an arcade pub, with old 90's arcade games scattered about. 769962;1406332937;thestringpuller;but the one I'm going to is a skateboard ride away. So I can get drunk as shit and skate home. 769963;1406333380;moiety;sounds dangerous thestringpuller lol 769964;1406333388;mircea_popescu;yeah hypnotize is weak 769965;1406333474;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight mass slow + berserk + blind on a hero with infinte mp and archers against a slow infantry -> carnage. 769966;1406333813;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, totally; still reading comments actually, I got a bit of nostalgia now :D nice to see lots of comments on your blog made by krossfire as well 769967;1406333919;DreadKnight;ok, finally done 769968;1406333942;mircea_popescu;you know vlad ? 769969;1406334041;DreadKnight;got the privilege to meet him back in the day I started getting into game development 769970;1406334052;mircea_popescu;smart guy. 769971;1406334097;DreadKnight;I wonder why he hasn't sticked with making games, he had quite a few decent prototypes done in pretty much no time 769972;1406334113;mircea_popescu;not much money into it ? 769973;1406334120;DreadKnight;:D 769974;1406334143;DreadKnight;back then it sure was the case for indie game devs 769975;1406334169;DreadKnight;now things are changing, more potential 769976;1406334190;DreadKnight;will try to catch up with him soon, it's been too long 769977;1406334258;mircea_popescu;i think he's still semi-active on his blog. 769978;1406334284;DreadKnight;has that issue for years afaik 769979;1406334327;DreadKnight;last time I talked to him about 2-3 years ago, I recall his latest game with the zeppelin that he wanted me to try 769980;1406334372;DreadKnight;he seems to be more into tweeting that blogging nowadays xD 769981;1406334379;DreadKnight;than* 769982;1406334445;DreadKnight;4 blog posts this month, not bad 769983;1406335534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 372 @ 0.00294989 = 1.0974 BTC [-] 769984;1406336001;mike_c;;;tslb 769985;1406336004;gribble;Time since last block: 18 minutes and 20 seconds 769986;1406336009;mike_c;lazy miners 769987;1406338401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13627 @ 0.0008217 = 11.1973 BTC [-] 769988;1406338889;mircea_popescu;mike_c http://oglaf.com/ << check out the ad. 769989;1406338889;assbot;Enlist! 769990;1406338908;mike_c;hah! nice. 769991;1406338954;mircea_popescu;we're doing ~ 1.5mn impressions/hour atm. curious if it does anything. 769992;1406339009;mike_c;holy shit. that must be in a lot of places? 769993;1406339061;mircea_popescu;http://mspfanventures.com/ dunno if you like stuff like msp adventures ? 769994;1406339062;assbot;MS Paint Fan Adventures 769995;1406339096;mircea_popescu;but yes, 100s of places. the web is a big hole. 769996;1406339115;mike_c;hopefully a big hole full of bitcoin 769997;1406339141;mircea_popescu;a hole is by definition empty. 769998;1406339146;mike_c;damnit 769999;1406339464;mircea_popescu;anyway, oglaf for instance has close to 1% ctr atm 770000;1406339473;mircea_popescu;so counterintuitively the ads are actually good. 770001;1406339485;asciilifeform;ctr? 770002;1406339638;mircea_popescu;click through 770003;1406339642;asciilifeform;aha 770004;1406339652;mircea_popescu;this is unheard of, ctr was last 1% in 1998. 770005;1406339660;*;asciilifeform failed spam school 770006;1406339804;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/07/cryptosphere-cryptome.htm 770007;1406339849;asciilifeform;'Canceling Kickstarter cancels the pledges, so nothing to return except an apology to those who pledged for Kickstarter's siphoning and selling their profile. (A fair number said this is why they would not participate in this or any other crowd-funding scam, that we should be ashamed of aiding and abetting the hustle.)' 770008;1406339918;mircea_popescu;well sure. 770009;1406339934;mircea_popescu;this is not spam tho, this is advertising. 770010;1406339969;mircea_popescu;$mpexlag 770011;1406339976;mircea_popescu;or what was it 770012;1406339977;mircea_popescu;$proxies 770013;1406339985;mircea_popescu;!proxies 770014;1406339988;decimation;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/25/bose_sues_beats_apple/ remember the dumbass beats acquisition? yeah it was still dumb 770015;1406339989;assbot;Bose decides today IS F*** With Dre Day: Beats sued in patent spat The Register 770016;1406340013;asciilifeform;in my simple orkish minds, anything i have to switch off a filter to see is spam. but hey, who has never spammed. 770017;1406340015;mircea_popescu;lol 770018;1406340033;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform do you see the wol banner in the oglaf site ? (ab ove) ? 770019;1406340041;asciilifeform;well yes i do now. 770020;1406340086;asciilifeform;bose patent << are they also suing sony? or any of the 100 or so other manufacturers of antiphase audio gizmos ? 770021;1406340126;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform o you had to turn off a filter ? 770022;1406340132;decimation;no, they are suing someone who has $3 bn 770023;1406340148;asciilifeform;'adblock' plugin 770024;1406340151;decimation;lawsuits are only useful if there's blood to suck from the other party 770025;1406340154;mike_c;well, they are suing apple now right? 770026;1406340164;decimation;yep 770027;1406340227;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ah i c. 770028;1406340359;*;asciilifeform ashamed to admit, owns some bose hardware. mainly because nobody else comes close in plain old noise zapping. (tried many vendors.) 770029;1406340413;decimation;ascii what about those isolating in-ear buds? 770030;1406340442;asciilifeform;decimation: that's what i have. bose's. with antiphase. 770031;1406340450;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform ashamed to admit, owns some bose hardware. mainly because nobody else comes close in plain old noise zapping. (tried many vendors.) << I feel that 770032;1406340520;asciilifeform;if, say, monsanto - sold a set with an extra -5dB attenuation, made of reprocessed kittens and personally signed by obama, at 20x the cost - i'd buy it... 770033;1406340546;BingoBoingo;^ Concur to many's butthurt 770034;1406340592;BingoBoingo;Bose filters are great even if the fundamentals suck 770035;1406340604;csshih;=] 770036;1406340607;asciilifeform;most of the time i don't even connect the input to anything 770037;1406340634;decimation;yeah isolation from noise is nice 770038;1406340644;BingoBoingo;Ah usuausll I commect input to somgs of my people 770039;1406340654;decimation;do you find them more comfortable than head-clamp style headphones? 770040;1406340655;asciilifeform;then somebody asks 'why not shooting plugs?' and answer, 'try wearing those for 14 hrs' 770041;1406340671;asciilifeform;decimation: had those previously. also, unsurprisingly, bose. 770042;1406340686;asciilifeform;decimation: gave them to pet, who doesn't give flying fuck about noise 770043;1406340702;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: then somebody asks 'why not shooting plugs?' and answer, 'try wearing those for 14 hrs' << actually had a weird dream last night 770044;1406340712;BingoBoingo;Nagant bent its firing pin 770045;1406340728;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: my understanding is that this is virtually unheard of 770046;1406340732;BingoBoingo;Went aroung too long begging for an SKS in the middle of zombies 770047;1406340759;BingoBoingo;Trraded beloved watch for working rifle in this dream 770048;1406340787;decimation;turns out that the beats by dre headphones suck at delivering bass too 770049;1406340788;decimation;http://itsjustjustin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Monster-Beats-by-Dre-vs-Beyerdynamic-DT-880.png 770050;1406340789;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: but if it's an actual concern, i vaguely recall that a number of u.s. vendors offer titanium firing pins for just about anything short of a nambu 770051;1406340789;mircea_popescu;ello csshih 770052;1406340800;csshih;yo mircea_popescu 770053;1406340846;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: my understanding is that this is virtually unheard of << Turned out all of the other patent people held .308 winchester rifles I was the long 7.62x54R party to this fight against the undead 770054;1406340880;BingoBoingo;Short story, this morning's bitcoin burning went to a pound of firing pins 770055;1406340992;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: phun phact. russia produced 308 winchester since early 1970s. why? brezhnev received a costly hunting rifle as a gift from usa. needed to feed it... 770056;1406340999;BingoBoingo;Would still like a Yugo SKS evwentually 770057;1406341029;BingoBoingo; BingoBoingo: phun phact. russia produced 308 winchester since early 1970s. why? brezhnev received a costly hunting rifle as a gift from usa. needed to feed it... << Similar with stalin and his 1911 770058;1406341062;asciilifeform;afaik russia never mass-produced .45 770059;1406341086;asciilifeform;as evidenced by the fact of lend-lease 'chicago typewriters' remaining mostly unused, languishing in warehouses to this day 770060;1406341090;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: But Russia has crates of them intended for Thompson 770061;1406341117;BingoBoingo;Unless submerged bullets don't aged to poorly 770062;1406341207;asciilifeform;incidentally, 770063;1406341209;asciilifeform;http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-says-ukraine-shelled-across-border-with-intent-to-kill-officers/504097.html 770064;1406341214;decimation;I wouldn't mind one of these: http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/364-centerfire-rifles-cz/KL/CZ_527_CARBINE.aspx strikes me as well made and practical 770065;1406341219;BingoBoingo;Officer model 1911 and clones are still popular concealed carry pieces 770066;1406341366;decimation;I would get the 7.62x39 with a suppressor (after all the ATF paperwork) 770067;1406341403;mircea_popescu;mike_c remember http://lawcomic.net/ ? 770068;1406341404;assbot;The Illustrated Guide to Law | Keeping the Laughter in Manslaughter 770069;1406341422;mike_c;lol, never saw that one 770070;1406341443;BingoBoingo;decimation> I would get the 7.62x39 with a suppressor (after all the ATF paperwork) << for delicate shit in missouri suppressors are a thing and most .22 lr semi autos have tons of accesories available 770071;1406341509;BingoBoingo;!up AndrewJackson 770072;1406341583;BingoBoingo; http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-says-ukraine-shelled-across-border-with-intent-to-kill-officers/504097.html << turning into ugly balkan or Israeli shit 770073;1406341603;mircea_popescu;mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ >> tjat guy 770074;1406341604;assbot;The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 770075;1406341604;decimation;my office mate got a suppressor recently, took 9 months for ATF to approve paperwork 770076;1406341626;decimation;because you know someone wanting to keep from going deaf while shooting game needs to be regulated 770077;1406341643;mike_c;ah, i do remember that post 770078;1406341786;mircea_popescu;synergy : because of wol author of that cartoon can now get a little money. 770079;1406341804;mircea_popescu;i like it when my shit makes circles :D 770080;1406341827;BingoBoingo; my office mate got a suppressor recently, took 9 months for ATF to approve paperwork << Missouri to missouri lacks the hurdles 770081;1406341985;decimation;he had a practical use for it too: was out hunting, saw deer, didn't have time to apply hearing protection before getting off a shot (with 30-06), his ears rang for several hours 770082;1406341997;BingoBoingo; my office mate got a suppressor recently, took 9 months for ATF to approve paperwork << Walther P-22 or whatever no wait with a probably missouri residence 770083;1406342038;BingoBoingo; he had a practical use for it too: was out hunting, saw deer, didn't have time to apply hearing protection before getting off a shot (with 30-06), his ears rang for several hours << This is why supressors are UK legal 770084;1406342073;decimation;afaik they are legal and common throughout northern europe (where guns are legal) 770085;1406342099;decimation;what purpose does it serve to require people who shoot guns to deafen themselves? 770086;1406342244;BingoBoingo; what purpose does it serve to require people who shoot guns to deafen themselves? << Puritan baggage 770087;1406342302;BingoBoingo;decimation: Mazing though that the two most killing calibers here are .22 lr and police 9mm and .38 770088;1406342402;decimation;killing humans? 770089;1406342563;BingoBoingo;decimation: What else do people keep stats for? 770090;1406342587;BingoBoingo;Groundhogs readily fall to a tack hammer 770091;1406342651;decimation;.22 lr pistols have always been popular 770092;1406342655;BingoBoingo;Also .22 lr hollow points have just enough space for a bit of pleasantly colored phosphorous 770093;1406342686;decimation;um, why would you want phosphorous in your round? 770094;1406342687;BingoBoingo; .22 lr pistols have always been popular << Problem is they don't cycle well on subsonic loads 770095;1406342703;BingoBoingo; um, why would you want phosphorous in your round? << fire 770096;1406342730;decimation;so you can burn someone from the inside after your hollow point smashes their organs? 770097;1406342779;BingoBoingo; um, why would you want phosphorous in your round? 770098;1406342799;BingoBoingo;decimation: WIth .22 lr not usually persons, groundhogs and other vermin 770099;1406342829;decimation;ah that makes more sense 770100;1406342850;BingoBoingo;Anyways normal .22 lr blunt lead cheap shit tens to ricohet in the skull after it penetrates 770101;1406342928;BingoBoingo;For small mamammals though that extra burn sves a shot or two 770102;1406342990;BingoBoingo;Big mammals you have to get them to accept they are dying... 770103;1406343537;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, seems you forgot to translate "Un blog de" into english 770104;1406343798;mircea_popescu;!up seakazoo 770105;1406343813;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight eh, what's it gonna hurt. 770106;1406344041;DreadKnight;oh well 770107;1406344179;seakazoo;thanks assbot 770108;1406344183;mike_c;;;later tell fluffypony i gave that guy your handle, he may come ask you about the job 770109;1406344183;gribble;The operation succeeded. 770110;1406345070;mircea_popescu;!up btc111_ 770111;1406345078;thestringpuller;moiety: The nice thing about that pub is it is downhill. 770112;1406345118;thestringpuller;I get nice and drunk, then step on my board - and voila - gravity takes me home. 770113;1406345172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8256 @ 0.0008217 = 6.784 BTC [-] 770114;1406345189;DreadKnight;I managed to bump into a parked car in a similar scenario 770115;1406345296;thestringpuller;DreadKnight: I live in the suburbs so there is either 1) speeding cars or 2) no cars 770116;1406345298;btc111_;is MPEX still selling 5000:1 ether for march expiry? 770117;1406345366;DreadKnight;thestringpuller, I see; you said the pub has arcades? 770118;1406345562;mircea_popescu;btc111_ yes. 770119;1406345565;assbot;RooK314 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 770120;1406345577;mircea_popescu;;;refresh 770121;1406345577;gribble;Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed. 770122;1406345579;mircea_popescu;!up RooK314 770123;1406345585;RooK314;xD 770124;1406345670;RooK314;Well I finally get here and seakazoo leaves for the night 770125;1406345725;btc111_;wahts the default risk on those contracts? 770126;1406345737;btc111_;trying to model the default risk into my structured product 770127;1406345752;mircea_popescu;btc111_ the default risk is 0. 770128;1406345764;mircea_popescu;RooK314 who's he ? 770129;1406345796;RooK314;She's a friend of mine. We are going to get her into some investments, not sure what yet 770130;1406345808;mircea_popescu;ah, cool. 770131;1406345824;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ ? 770132;1406345825;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 770133;1406345848;RooK314;That's a possibility. You have to talk to her lol 770134;1406345851;Duffer1;bitcoin, keep them 770135;1406345933;RooK314;I highly doubt anyone would want to see my tits 770136;1406345973;mircea_popescu;;;google they really are buttcoins nao 770137;1406345973;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 770138;1406345983;mircea_popescu;weirder things have happened. 770139;1406346013;btc111_;MP: 0 sounds like a bit of a stretch. im seriously interested in buying those contracts... do you have enough BTC to cover if ehter hits 200:1 ? 770140;1406346042;Duffer1;hehe 770141;1406346073;mircea_popescu;yes. 770142;1406346116;mircea_popescu;0 is not a bit of a stretch. the central bank is nominally 0 risk in any economic system. 770143;1406346161;btc111_;MP: who's the central bank here? 770144;1406346168;mircea_popescu;me. 770145;1406346222;btc111_;MP: you have unlimited BTC to cover if ehter rises? 770146;1406346272;mircea_popescu;i have more btc than what eth can ever be worth, ever. 770147;1406346384;btc111_;hah. interesting statement. care to elaborate? im not trolling... don't you think the hype will push it higher when it launches? 770148;1406346415;Duffer1;the question is whether or not it will still exist this time next year 770149;1406346455;mircea_popescu;btc111_ you overvalue hype. this isn't fucking feminism, or some other internet thing where what people say matter. 770150;1406346470;mircea_popescu;people can hype all they want, i deflated the dogecoin hype just fine, what's so special about eth ? 770151;1406346524;btc111_;MP: turing complete contracts 770152;1406346539;Duffer1;lmao 770153;1406346553;*;mircea_popescu shrug. 770154;1406346587;mircea_popescu;;;google why i nixed colored coins 770155;1406346589;gribble;Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog ...: ; OP_CHECKCOLORVERIFY: soft-fork for native color coin support ...: ; Mixed Associations Aged With Precise Mystique - mactaggart jewelry: 5k btc deposited by people looking to get a total 10mn of the shits. 770366;1406395851;mircea_popescu;seths. 770367;1406395919;decimation;I guess it's one of these turing-complete contract bitcoin wanna-bes - I haven't seen any serious analysis of the codebase yet 770368;1406395942;*;asciilifeform read their original paper, thought it could lead to something vaguely interesting - until the premined turdcoin came out... 770369;1406395957;mircea_popescu;no wait, that must be diff. this one's not out yet. 770370;1406395970;asciilifeform;hm 770371;1406395975;Duffer1;speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while.. 770372;1406396019;decimation;ascii re:premined - monkey can't let go of banana in trap... 770373;1406396041;danielpbarron;http://danielpbarron.com/swarm.log.txt << long but kinda funny read about yet another scam 770374;1406396049;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#765724 770375;1406396050;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 770376;1406396108;decimation;quite. To be fair, satoshi still has his hand on the banana 770377;1406396119;decimation;but that kind of opportunity only comes around once a century or two 770378;1406396173;mircea_popescu; quite. To be fair, satoshi still has his hand on the banana << i don't see it. 770379;1406396236;chetty;http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28498909 770380;1406396236;assbot;BBC Sport - Argentina FA fined 20,000 for Falklands banner display 770381;1406396268;decimation;mircea, are you saying satoshi's horde doesn't exist? 770382;1406396298;fluffypony;http://www.coinssource.com/trust 770383;1406396298;assbot;The Coins Source Trust Index 770384;1406396299;fluffypony;lol 770385;1406396333;mircea_popescu;decimation yeah. 770386;1406396426;decimation;is there a published analysis of the early blockchain? 770387;1406396503;mircea_popescu;lots. 770388;1406396595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 693 @ 0.003 = 2.079 BTC [+] 770389;1406396656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 241 @ 0.00309014 = 0.7447 BTC [+] {3} 770390;1406396743;mthreat;http://stopmasturbationnow.org/weather/17-year-old-girl-stuck-by-lightning-when-masturbating/ 770391;1406396745;assbot;17 Year Old Girl Struck by Lightning While Masturbating | Stop Masturbation Now 770392;1406396753;chetty;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/business/the-typical-household-now-worth-a-third-less.html?_r=0 770393;1406396756;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 770394;1406396761;mircea_popescu;ahahah 770395;1406396865;decimation;https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ << this guy estimate's satoshi's fortune at 1M btc, 770396;1406396867;assbot;The Well Deserved Fortune of Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin creator, Visionary and Genius | Bitslog 770397;1406396871;mircea_popescu;http://stopmasturbationnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/jen.jpg << this chick;'s like 30 770398;1406396877;decimation;that's alot but not enough to shake the foundations of bitcoin 770399;1406396906;mircea_popescu;decimation i am aware. it's not "his" estimation. there's been this thing pushed around since 2011ish, a meme equivalent to "who really is satoshi" 770400;1406396994;decimation;ah, you discussed last year http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2013#39370 770401;1406396994;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 770402;1406397066;mircea_popescu;decimation it's just... you know. pretty much everyone i know who's been mining in 2010 has actually lost the majority of bitcoin they ever mined. irrespective if they still mine or not. 770403;1406397080;mircea_popescu;and besides, artforz is likely a much larger holder than satoshi himself. IF he had any sense. 770404;1406397087;mircea_popescu;which judging by his disappearance, he prolly did have. 770405;1406397128;decimation;this guy has more detail https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.40 770406;1406397131;assbot;Chain Archaeology - Answers from the early blockchain 770407;1406397149;decimation;yeah I agree, I had mined in 2010 and lost much of it unfortunately 770408;1406397488;mircea_popescu;so, yeah. people like to dream. one dream they like to dream is that they'll be the sherlock that'll discover "the real satoshi". another dream they like to dream is the vicarious wealth of amillionbtc. 770409;1406397503;mircea_popescu;there's nothing wrong with this any more than there's anything wrong with watching animated pony cartoons. 770410;1406397533;mircea_popescu;when one starts pretendling like reality, going to school in their pony suit and mixing fiction in power points... well... that's actually unhealty. 770411;1406397762;mircea_popescu;i don't get what that coinsource thing is supposed to be. 770412;1406398144;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: tru story. << lel. 770413;1406398195;mircea_popescu;if only they had a smidgeon of business sense to start back in 2013 by coming here, they'd have actually had a future. 770414;1406398412;decimation;http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/itb/articles/?id=2529 << follow up on chetty's post 770415;1406398413;assbot;In the Balance : Hispanic Population's Share of Wealth Likely to Increase by 2025 770416;1406398482;decimation;The U.S.'s Hispanic population was about 50.5 million in 2010, representing 16.3 percent of the total population (Table 1).1 According to the Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances and its Financial Accounts of the United States, Hispanic families had about ... about 2.2 percent of total wealth ... In summary, we project the Hispanic share of total wealth to increase from 2.2 percent in 2010 to either 2.6 percent or 3.2 770417;1406398484;decimation;percent of the economy's total wealth by 2025 770418;1406398488;mircea_popescu;inasmuch as some jews are hispanic, im sure it will increase. 770419;1406398539;decimation;even their "model" predicts no movement, but the press release predictably says: http://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/wealth-share-of-hispanic-population-may-triple-by-2025/ 770420;1406398540;assbot;Wealth Share of Hispanic Population May Triple by 2025 | St. Louis Fed On the Economy 770421;1406398843;mircea_popescu;this is such idiocy. rich people are rich people. they're not "hispanic", they're rich. 770422;1406398855;mircea_popescu;there's exactly zilch that the "share of wealtyh of the hispanic population" means. 770423;1406398885;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-mining-profit/ 770424;1406398914;mircea_popescu;this entire situation is reminiscent of someone trying to "enhance" abstinence-only sexed by reports about how "women's orgasms per capita set to increase this year" 770425;1406398928;mircea_popescu;people who're not fucking aren't going to be interested, unless, of course, they're retarded. 770426;1406398957;decimation;just as rich folk could give a tinker's damn what some poor mexican thinks about how things ought to be 770427;1406398983;decimation;http://www.isegoria.net/2014/07/decadence-is-not-physical/ 770428;1406398984;assbot;Decadence Is Not Physical « Isegoria 770429;1406398990;decimation;"Decadence is a moral and spiritual disease, resulting from too long a period of wealth and power, producing cynicism, decline of religion, pessimism and frivolity. The citizens of such a nation will no longer make an effort to save themselves, because they are not convinced that anything in life is worth saving." 770430;1406398991;chetty;I wonder, does the poor Mexican give a tinkers damn either? 770431;1406399015;decimation;not really, because he thinks he is rich compared to his cousins back home 770432;1406399025;mircea_popescu;Daniel: "We believe that we can build a better future. We believe that we can enable all to participate in a revolution of collective ownership, something that will radically shift the nature of human society." wtf; are they socialists? <<< lulzy danielpbarron 770433;1406399056;danielpbarron;i know, right? i was cracking up reading it 770434;1406399096;mircea_popescu;decimation it only indirectly results from a too long period of wealth and power. i know, for i've been wealthy and powerful my entire life. the trick is to not buy into comfort. that's the direct causation : once people become comfortable and think "i'm too wealthy and powerful to be here fucking with a wrench inside this engine on the side of a road". 770435;1406399123;mircea_popescu;pretty soon it's "we're too cool for our children to be killed off like the worthless shitbags they are" 770436;1406399133;mircea_popescu;and from there on... anyone with a wrench can wrench a deal out of you. 770437;1406399143;decimation;for some of them, they could be making more money not fixing things and hiring a guy 770438;1406399146;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: usually this happens to folks born 'into' money 770439;1406399151;decimation;but that's a pretty restrcted set 770440;1406399179;mircea_popescu;decimation the problem is exactly there : a roman citizen is required to be part of the army, even if he could serve the republic "better" elsewhere. 770441;1406399189;mircea_popescu;the point is specifically to be able to serve everywhere, so to speak, 770442;1406399198;mircea_popescu;because the relative value of things can't really be fixed. 770443;1406399211;mircea_popescu;chetty likely not. 770444;1406399230;*;asciilifeform points out that this was the situation in ussr. virtually everyone was technically reserve corps. 770445;1406399246;mircea_popescu;decimation but you see the signs of decadence much closer to home : the moment people start shying away from calling someone a cunt in the street, because o noes, we're civilised now. that's it. 770446;1406399256;mircea_popescu;compare the father with the son in cat on a hot tin roof. that's it. 770447;1406399266;mircea_popescu;what, big daddy doesn't know what bum love is ? yes he does. 770448;1406399315;mircea_popescu;he may not be talking too much or too loud\ly about it because of that shithead ida, and her unwanted, unwelcome and damaging "love", but otherwise... 770449;1406399500;decimation;in other words each household needs to keep its own shit in order 770450;1406399614;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/07/cryptokey-refusal-prosecution.htm << mega-lol. 'surrender card.' 770451;1406399713;asciilifeform;(what's that? this - http://longstreet.typepad.com/thesciencebookstore/2010/11/propaganda-and-surrender-tickets-world-war-ii-1953-1945-part-i.html) 770452;1406399903;decimation;ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus? 770453;1406399913;asciilifeform;decimation: this is SOP in usa 770454;1406400012;asciilifeform;decimation: which is why, with the possible exception of folks who can cough up astoundingly large ransom, falling into the hands of u.s. 'justice' system should be thought of as equivalent to ending up in a gestapo dungeon. 770455;1406400084;decimation;speaking of which, whatever happened to that guy who was convicted of possessing silver coins? 770456;1406400121;asciilifeform;possessing? or selling 770457;1406400138;asciilifeform;that was von NotHaus 770458;1406400169;asciilifeform;^ http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/04/financial-totalitarianism.html 770459;1406400170;assbot;ClubOrlov: Financial Totalitarianism 770460;1406400194;decimation;yeah him, did they actually sentance him 770461;1406400282;decimation;http://www.titanians.org/bernard-von-nothaus-seeks-acquittal-new-trial/ 770462;1406400283;assbot;Bernard von NotHaus Seeks Acquittal, New Trial » Titania - the Open Source Ethical Society 770463;1406400287;mircea_popescu; ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus? << the principle is that "the people" can charge you with w/o the shit they want. 770464;1406400292;mircea_popescu;the exact equivalent of jury nullification 770465;1406400298;mircea_popescu;grand jury enactication. 770466;1406400436;decimation;yeah that's scary 770467;1406400459;mircea_popescu;decimation well if it wants to be a republic, it gotta be a republic. 770468;1406400495;asciilifeform;this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms. 770469;1406400526;mircea_popescu;"Unless you have been through this, with much of it kept secret to protect means and methods of investigation and prosecution, prepare for an exciting first time on the actual hot seat, not on TV or online where hypnotic disinfo rules and seduces the unwary to believe tickling the comsec tiger's tail is fantasic rep building." <<< heh. 770470;1406400548;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what do you perceive the difference being, between military and legal ? 770471;1406400552;asciilifeform;when at war, your perspective on what happens if you fall into enemy hands isn't 'know the magic incantations that will force them to let me go' 770472;1406400578;mircea_popescu;no, it's the "know the magic incantation that'll make them rue the day they messed with me so close" 770473;1406400610;asciilifeform;the magic incantation in that case is adequate fire support 770474;1406400622;mircea_popescu;not strictly. 770475;1406400635;mircea_popescu;try capturing chtulhu. hey everyone! free insanity today, and all get seconds! 770476;1406400685;asciilifeform;when (imho undeservedly) famous social engineer k. mitnick was captured, the jailers actually believed he was a chtulhu 770477;1406400699;asciilifeform;he was, famously, denied the traditional 'last phone call' 770478;1406400704;mircea_popescu;lol 770479;1406400708;asciilifeform;for fear of magic words! 770480;1406400731;decimation;he has magic hacking powers, give him the a. ames treatment! 770481;1406400754;asciilifeform;or, to quite relevant film, 'what good is a phone call mr. andersen, if you have no mouth...' 770482;1406400782;mircea_popescu;if only it were that easy. 770483;1406400816;mircea_popescu;i mean obviously, the king's ministers, no matter how cornered, will attempt to put forth the theory of how dominant their kingdom actually is. 770484;1406400817;thestringpuller;lol it is that easy 770485;1406400832;mircea_popescu;this has some trouble getting past things such as you know, that wikileaks guy. 770486;1406400869;mircea_popescu;if the kingdom actually worked like teh king's ministers propose it does, i wouldn't be looking into the yard of the king's minister's wife at the car of the guy the minister doesn't know she fucks 770487;1406400871;mircea_popescu;sort of thing. 770488;1406400899;jurov;so if ascii gets jailed for jaywalking, we shall expect another national guard gathering? 770489;1406400905;asciilifeform;lol 770490;1406400945;asciilifeform;my understanding is, the most one can hope for, if you aren't chtulhu, assanger, mircea_popescu - when the wagen comes, is to die with honour, without implicating other partizans 770491;1406400965;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform or you could blog about it. 770492;1406400988;*;asciilifeform should practice blogging while hanging upside down with gag 770493;1406401022;mircea_popescu;well now... here's the thing... you can't be talking while you're not able to talk, right ? 770494;1406401034;mircea_popescu;and if you are able to talk, who's going to be able to control what you say, and to whom ? 770495;1406401037;jurov;hm.. i guess when patent trolls come for cardano, there are better ways than seppuku 770496;1406401050;mircea_popescu;perhaps you need your computers, perhaps you need access to a certain server, who's to know. 770497;1406401050;jurov;? 770498;1406401088;mircea_popescu;this isn't nearly as cut and dried a matter as the usg likes to pretend (forced mistake, it has no alternative than to so pretend). 770499;1406401104;mircea_popescu;exactly the same problems that limit the mob limit the government, and can be used identically. 770500;1406401197;decimation;for instance they haven't managed to jail this von nothaus guy yet 770501;1406401207;decimation;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=argq_cxalZ8 770502;1406401207;assbot;Interview: Bernard von NotHaus - YouTube 770503;1406401224;asciilifeform;wait, he's outside of a jail ?! 770504;1406401245;decimation;apparently he was convicted but never sentanced 770505;1406401255;asciilifeform;yeah, but where's he now 770506;1406401265;asciilifeform;walking the globe without a gps collar ? 770507;1406401278;decimation;well according to this interview in miami on 1 feb 2014 770508;1406401299;decimation;I suspect he has no passport 770509;1406401320;asciilifeform;so there we go. he's in 'большая зона' (the big jail.) 770510;1406401356;asciilifeform;(soviet term, in contrast to the 'little jail' - a jail in the usual sense; the big one - ussr.) 770511;1406401400;decimation;"we are coming up to march 2014, so I've been waiting 3 years to be sentenced, this is most unusual. Usually in a federal case you are incarcerated within 60 days after being found guilty." 770512;1406401435;decimation;usg must be scared of something 770513;1406401450;asciilifeform;in cases like his, it is traditional for the inquisitor to make a series of offers to lighten punishment substantially in exchange for agent recruitment 770514;1406401456;asciilifeform;(aka turning stoolie) 770515;1406401474;asciilifeform;we can surmise that he refused one or more, but they aren't done yet 770516;1406401513;asciilifeform;so i don't see 'scared' - only 'patient.' 770517;1406401607;asciilifeform;if nothaus is cut loose, we should expect him to turn up eventually in the role of a karpeles or brock pierce. 770518;1406401660;decimation;well I tend to agree with your point about recruitment, but it's not clear to me what he is going to be recruited to do exactly. 770519;1406401680;decimation;an enterprising defense team would have him start another altcoin for the purpose of turning against it 770520;1406401697;asciilifeform;we'll know what it is once inquisitor makes up his mind, and nothaus surrenders 770521;1406401739;decimation;why didn't folks attempt to leave the "big jail" during ussr times? 770522;1406401745;asciilifeform;they certainly did. 770523;1406401745;decimation;seems like that would be the thing to do 770524;1406401767;asciilifeform;many of the same issues facing folks who want to leave usa. 770525;1406401776;asciilifeform;(a trip requires a destination) 770526;1406401781;decimation;I guess it's hard to escape with family intact 770527;1406402070;asciilifeform;back to the treatment of nothaus - this was SOP for dissident types, at least post-stalin. you land, not in a jail cell, but a comfortable 'hotel room', where no one hangs you upside down, no! - but well-dressed, educated fellows have little chats with you over good coffee - to make you 'see reason.' 770528;1406402074;thestringpuller;decimation: that's very depressing :( 770529;1406402120;asciilifeform;if you 'see reason' - you're a free man. get to keep doing what you were doing. except with a little microphone listening, or the like. 770530;1406402137;mircea_popescu; we can surmise that he refused one or more, but they aren't done yet << something like that. 770531;1406402180;mircea_popescu;<decimation> I guess it's hard to escape with family intact << people with families have no business escaping. 770532;1406402190;mircea_popescu;their job is to work the soil and make babies. 770533;1406402201;asciilifeform;this is why a man with a profession that puts him in range of escape was required to have family. 770534;1406402216;mircea_popescu;quite. 770535;1406402220;asciilifeform;e.g. diplomats, military attaches, competitive athletes 770536;1406402227;thestringpuller;what if you don't want to make babies? 770537;1406402235;decimation;yes, their fate is to stand and take whatever comes I suppose 770538;1406402244;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: then you don't get posted abroad. 770539;1406402253;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller then eiher it's not a family, you're being forced to or you will be forced to. 770540;1406402284;asciilifeform;incidentally, pretty much none of the above were sent abroad with actual wives, children 770541;1406402290;asciilifeform;they'd get theatrical ones 770542;1406402323;decimation;spies, presumably 770543;1406402329;asciilifeform;as diplomat, your 'wife' might actually be someone whose only job is to shoot you in the head if you start to 'turn.' 770544;1406402330;thestringpuller;sounds like huxley's world would make that a moot issue (humans bred in tanks) 770545;1406402390;thestringpuller;it also seems being an orphan is more beneficial in that regard too... 770546;1406402405;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller well tbh, i dun see why i'd have wanted to leave huxley's world. just hang out with the boss guy down at the bar. 770547;1406402454;asciilifeform;note that the analogy is not exact. the american equivalent of a soviet job with travel privileges would be, say, the right to own significant foreign (or theoretically liquid enough to become foreign) assets 770548;1406402457;asciilifeform;as this enables escape 770549;1406402468;decimation;http://galtsgulchchile.com/ << like these guys 770550;1406402469;assbot;Galt's Gulch Chile - To your freedoms 770551;1406402485;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what, like bitcoin ? 770552;1406402486;decimation;you can own, you just have to confess to usg you have them 770553;1406402489;asciilifeform;decimation: honeypot 770554;1406402492;asciilifeform;like 'citadel' 770555;1406402522;thestringpuller;asciilifeform: couldn't one in america escape through...non traditional means? 770556;1406402533;thestringpuller;i'm implying illegal passports. 770557;1406402534;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/#comment-103357 << kid found a romanian btc atm, wants to know why some derp did it and not i. well.. i'm lazy. 770558;1406402535;assbot;Big numbers, random numbers and who’s got your number ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 770559;1406402551;mircea_popescu;but i follow the link. huge title "Bitcoin will be partially or totally controlled". ie, by some govt. 770560;1406402554;mircea_popescu;herp. 770561;1406402560;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: you probably heard that many 'gulag' facilities were not guarded at all. 770562;1406402573;asciilifeform;the snow, bears, starvation - do the guarding. 770563;1406402586;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform people's own dumb heads do the guarding. 770564;1406402592;mircea_popescu;nothing to stop one from walking to mexico right now 770565;1406402599;mircea_popescu;oh, but... THE BEARS 770566;1406402607;mircea_popescu;and lions and tigers - oh my! 770567;1406402608;decimation;yeah I suspect walking to mexico is easier than the reverse 770568;1406402612;thestringpuller;there is a lot to stop you walking from mexico back into the states tho... 770569;1406402634;asciilifeform;nothing to stop the zek from walking into the permafrost, either 770570;1406402656;decimation;one would need iron balls to do it I guess 770571;1406402661;mircea_popescu;EcoChav: these girls are going to be using SWARM to raise funds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWTXht6doPM << 770572;1406402661;assbot;California Kale Collective SWARM - YouTube 770573;1406402680;mircea_popescu;i propose a new highschool charter. it teaches kids nothing, but smacks them every time they use "going to" 770574;1406402686;asciilifeform;for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here 770575;1406402708;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but arbeit macht frei! 770576;1406402715;asciilifeform;lol 770577;1406402749;thestringpuller;i recently heard of a city in siberia that utilizes more energy to keep the city warm and operate than it would if people just commuted 100's of miles to operate the factories there... 770578;1406402771;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: norilsk ? 770579;1406402802;thestringpuller;Yes! 770580;1406402803;thestringpuller;that's the one 770581;1406402804;thestringpuller;lol 770582;1406402838;thestringpuller;usually never gets above 70 770583;1406402840;thestringpuller;F 770584;1406402854;asciilifeform;- ? 770585;1406402869;thestringpuller;oh during the yeart 770586;1406402882;thestringpuller;like in july the highest it'll get is like in the 10's to 20's C 770587;1406402890;decimation;ascii have you seen "Happy People: a year in the taiga"? 770588;1406402901;asciilifeform;nope 770589;1406402929;decimation;this guy Werner Herzon tours the River Yenisei and finds people who live off the land 770590;1406402941;decimation;they would have walked out of the gulag without a second thought 770591;1406402959;decimation;s/Herzon/Herzog 770592;1406402989;thestringpuller;Herzog is one kinda character... 770593;1406402997;thestringpuller;He makes some of the best documentaries though. 770594;1406403386;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what, like bitcoin ? << ameri-zek could escape if he had 10^7 usd or 10^4 bitcoin, say. but he won't ever see either, 'like his own ears without a mirror.' 770595;1406403478;asciilifeform;now, if you're willing to live like a feral dog, it isn't even necessary to leave the country. i recall, a few years ago, an article about one fellow who lived in a dugout in a u.s. national park. for ~30 years. he was caught by pure chance. 770596;1406403513;asciilifeform;tourist noticed a puff of smoke coming from a tree stump. 770597;1406403540;asciilifeform;(it was his chimney. disguised partizan-style.) 770598;1406403586;asciilifeform;if tourist hadn't strayed miles from the road, if wind had been stronger - the dugout would be there still, with its inhabitant. 770599;1406403607;decimation;that's long enough to claim adverse possession in many states 770600;1406403614;asciilifeform;not on federal land 770601;1406403661;asciilifeform;and, in many (most?) states, adverse possession is virtually impossible to pull off (title holder must be aware of the squatter and do nothing for xx years) 770602;1406403695;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform 10k btc ? foreals ? 770603;1406403705;asciilifeform;see dugout man above 770604;1406403707;asciilifeform;he needed 0 btc 770605;1406403712;mircea_popescu;the point is to live like a feral dog AND leave the country. 770606;1406403716;asciilifeform;but paid with other things 770607;1406403719;mircea_popescu;you gotta break the circle of "is necessary" 770608;1406403729;mircea_popescu;that's what the dam is built out of. convenience. 770609;1406403752;mircea_popescu;inconvenience yourself and you'll be free, but otherwise, you're predictable, and in being predictable you'll be a tool. 770610;1406403755;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: elaborate? 770611;1406403765;mircea_popescu;on which part ? 770612;1406403786;decimation;yeah that's what most of the "early retirement" folks advocate. if you can live on $20k per year you can retire now if you have any assets to speak of 770613;1406403801;asciilifeform;decimation: the 20k still have to come from somewhere. 770614;1406403826;asciilifeform;if they come from my being a stonemason in mexico city, as far as i can tell i'm then already in a jail 770615;1406403827;mircea_popescu;decimation most of humanity lives on less than ten bux a week. 770616;1406403831;mircea_popescu;that's... 500 a year 770617;1406403862;decimation;they can even pay to have their kids escape to the great 'el norte' 770618;1406403867;mircea_popescu;somehow. 770619;1406403872;mircea_popescu;not all do, notice. 770620;1406403887;asciilifeform;the other thing mexicans, eskimos, whoever, anyone but homo americanus have is - tribe. 770621;1406403892;asciilifeform;strength in numbers 770622;1406403898;asciilifeform;lone ant - dies 770623;1406403902;asciilifeform;anthill lives. 770624;1406403912;mircea_popescu;lone and dies happy. 770625;1406403915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.185 = 0.925 BTC [+] 770626;1406403968;decimation;the eastern metropolis is especially bad on this count. high population density but everyone is alone 770627;1406403991;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: let's say you were on the other side of the wire. my side. and you could escape, if you turned on that 'dulap' and gave up... cock&balls. 770628;1406404002;asciilifeform;now, is that life? 770629;1406404034;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i tend to break things. 770630;1406404056;mircea_popescu;there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. 770631;1406404082;asciilifeform;i recently went to a zoo, where they had cheetahs. one cheetah was a little different from the others. every time i see him, he's clearly preoccupied with looking for a hole in the fence. 770632;1406404094;asciilifeform;if he were a russian 'zek', he'd have a red stripe in his id papers. 770633;1406404110;asciilifeform;'побегушник' 770634;1406404110;mircea_popescu;which ironically makes the entire "terrorist" thing quite appropriate, except, i wouldn't shot them for the show (which is what terrorism implies, that you kill people for no reason than to impress other people). i'd do it because their continued existence is incompatible with mine. 770635;1406404138;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform did i ever tell you about the two pellicans ? 770636;1406404142;asciilifeform;? 770637;1406404157;decimation;which is exactly the attitude that the us used to have back in the pioneer days 770638;1406404188;decimation;before they were won by the English... 770639;1406404195;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform my only lingering regret from my days in costa rica is that one day i've visited a bird reserve. a large geodome sorta thing with a lot of birds in it. 770640;1406404220;mircea_popescu;among which two pelicans. which had figured where the door was, and what a door is. and were angling together to perhaps scare a dumbass tourist and manage to get out. 770641;1406404233;mircea_popescu;i have no idea why i didn't just take the birds across. 770642;1406404248;asciilifeform;lol! 770643;1406404258;asciilifeform;are they any good - to eat? 770644;1406404260;mircea_popescu;i guess a lot of foreign military officers wondered why they've not simply shot hitler at any point in the 30s, just walk up to him and boom. 770645;1406404276;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im sure they couldn't have survived in ther wild, but i dun see why that should matter. 770646;1406404277;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i recall at least two who wrote just this 770647;1406404300;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im sure the reason is exactly like the discussion re the altcoin 770648;1406404306;mircea_popescu;by the time you realise you should have it's too late. 770649;1406404312;asciilifeform;naturally. 770650;1406404340;mircea_popescu;there's actually an oglaf on the topic, too 770651;1406404597;mircea_popescu;http://media.oglaf.com/comic/chronotherapy.jpg 770652;1406404616;asciilifeform;lol, i recall this one. 770653;1406404622;mircea_popescu;guy shooting hitler would necessarily live in an alt-universe where shooting hitler's death is not justified by hitler being hitler, and so on. 770654;1406404632;mircea_popescu;this is a major reason to not punish murder, imo. 770655;1406404642;mircea_popescu;maybe the murderer had a point. 770656;1406404666;mircea_popescu;certainly murder of political figures is always justified on the face. they were, after all, political figures. 770657;1406404671;decimation;I suppose that's the point of jury nullification 770658;1406404717;mircea_popescu;yeah but it mixes the people in there. what'd the people know. 770659;1406404728;mircea_popescu;1930s german jury'd have not nulified hitler murder. 770660;1406404743;decimation;well, in the village the people would know, not in the city 770661;1406404751;mircea_popescu;this is such nonsense. 770662;1406404767;mircea_popescu;vilage people are actualy a lot dumber than city people. they just have much fewer avenues to display their inanity. 770663;1406404779;mircea_popescu;it's a case of 0.5 / 0.25 appearing larger than 1/1 770664;1406405135;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13636 @ 0.0008003 = 10.9129 BTC [-] 770665;1406405219;mircea_popescu;hey danielpbarron, what do you do for a living ? 770666;1406405251;danielpbarron;I have a seasonal warehouse job 770667;1406405261;mircea_popescu;do you wanna get paid to derp on the interwebs ? 770668;1406405270;danielpbarron;maybe 770669;1406405289;mircea_popescu;do tell ? 770670;1406405311;danielpbarron;yeah; sounds very interesting 770671;1406405340;mircea_popescu;okay, what i want you to do is create a bunch of handles in various forums (i'll tell you which) and participate in the discussion. 770672;1406405368;mircea_popescu;don't spam, make sense, bring in the various good points we know about the world doesn't, bitcoin, b-a, bitbet, mpex, etc. 770673;1406405379;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00079762 = 1.4357 BTC [-] 770674;1406405412;danielpbarron;so just tell the truth? 770675;1406405419;mircea_popescu;pretty much. 770676;1406405430;mircea_popescu;i don't pay people to lie, they do that on their own & for free. 770677;1406405496;danielpbarron;what are the terms? how much money; how frequently? 770678;1406405548;mircea_popescu;you can spend the rest of your days doing it for all i care, 24/7. you're to report each weekend and i'll pay you mondays. 770679;1406405676;danielpbarron;which forums? 770680;1406405734;mircea_popescu;start with warriorforum.com, gfy.com and lessee... bodybuilding.com 770681;1406405743;mircea_popescu;that should keep you busy for a day or two. 770682;1406405860;mircea_popescu;and more generally, if anyone's currently wasting a lot of time derping online and would like to make a job of it... say so. 770683;1406405890;asciilifeform;bodybuilding.com !? 770684;1406405925;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform there's a lot you don't know : 770685;1406405927;mircea_popescu;:) 770686;1406405931;asciilifeform;certainly is 770687;1406405967;mircea_popescu;that thing's massive, about the size of a bodybuilder. 770688;1406405983;benkay;mircea_popescu: DERPs are backstopped to the sum of BTC brought in by sales of DERP shares, is that correct? 770689;1406405992;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron if there's religious interest forums you know that i don't / other stuff you're already doing feel free to throw that into the mix. 770690;1406406001;mircea_popescu;benkay nah. 770691;1406406026;benkay;backstopped by your reputation and promise to pay? 770692;1406406046;mircea_popescu;they're backstopped by f.derp's assets. 770693;1406406072;benkay;so all of the D series is backstopped by all of f.derp 770694;1406406091;mircea_popescu;yeah. 770695;1406406102;mircea_popescu;basically if each individual issue goes up 2x in btc, then it's just about wiped. 770696;1406406119;mircea_popescu;if one issue goes up 100x in usd and btc goes up 10x and there's 10 issues, then it's just about wiped. 770697;1406406119;mircea_popescu;etc 770698;1406406136;benkay;gotcha thanks 770699;1406406290;mircea_popescu;;;seen duffer1 770700;1406406290;gribble;duffer1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 51 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while.. 770701;1406406311;mircea_popescu;;;later tell duffer1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770682 770702;1406406312;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 770703;1406406312;gribble;The operation succeeded. 770704;1406406316;jurov;what, F.DERP is/will be actual asset? 770705;1406406331;mircea_popescu;jurov yes. 770706;1406406346;mircea_popescu;so one can take either end. this was discussed in teh logs!!1 770707;1406406401;thestringpuller;we short using normal methods? (asking you to borrow shares on margin?) 770708;1406406403;thestringpuller;^ mircea_popescu 770709;1406406413;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller short what ? 770710;1406406422;thestringpuller;DERPS 770711;1406406445;mircea_popescu;you short the derps globally by buying f.derp. or i guess individually by borrowing them from someone that bough them 770712;1406406451;jurov;i try to read everything but my subconscious tends to skip it :( 770713;1406406455;jurov;it is apparently interested in politics and cultural anthropology 770714;1406406468;benkay;i like the finance stuff 770715;1406406475;thestringpuller;okay makes sense thanks mircea_popescu 770716;1406406476;benkay;can't be arsed with scamwatch 770717;1406406500;mircea_popescu;benkay kinda why division of labour is unavoidable. 770718;1406406540;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: specialization is for insects 770719;1406406556;mircea_popescu;yeah well. 770720;1406406642;chetty;ever notice how much big apt buildings look like beehives? 770721;1406406858;mircea_popescu;http://media.oglaf.com/ads/ad-reproductivestrategy.png 770722;1406406907;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/fiDoDT6.jpg 770723;1406406934;mircea_popescu;lol good for you. 770724;1406406965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18649999 = 0.746 BTC [+] {3} 770725;1406407148;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 645 @ 0.00166597 = 1.0746 BTC [-] {4} 770726;1406407270;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.001695 = 0.8475 BTC [+] {3} 770727;1406407328;chetty; for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here// walking over the border to Mexico is actually pretty easy 770728;1406407361;mircea_popescu;http://legacy-control.com/comics/2014-07-22-The-Nest.jpg 770729;1406407402;mircea_popescu;http://legacy-control.com/comic/girl-dreams/ 770730;1406407404;assbot;Girl Dreams – Legacy Control 770731;1406407556;mircea_popescu;http://nedroid.com/2014/03/music-and-words/ 770732;1406407556;assbot;Nedroid Picture Diary 770733;1406407622;DreadKnight;really fun comic that legacy-control one 770734;1406407661;mircea_popescu;o you know it ? 770735;1406407781;DreadKnight;now I do; bookmarked 770736;1406407793;mircea_popescu;:p 770737;1406407811;DreadKnight;need to recall what comics I used to follow besides xkcd 770738;1406408007;DreadKnight;http://explosm.net/comics/ (newest one is lame though) 770739;1406408008;assbot;Cyanide & Happiness #3629 - Explosm.net 770740;1406408536;chetty;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGGS5L8NhU#t=23 770741;1406408536;assbot;Mary Poppins Quits: The Rebuttal (w/ Remy) - YouTube 770742;1406408551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.189 = 1.323 BTC [+] 770743;1406408604;asciilifeform;chetty: that train of thought was about what one is to do -in- mexico. 770744;1406408737;asciilifeform;it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa. 770745;1406408933;jurov;did anyone mention the homeland can always ask to extradite you? 770746;1406409217;jurov;lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? legacy-control.com is slow and throws errors 770747;1406409240;chetty; it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa.// you'll never really know until you try 770748;1406409294;benkay;chetty you were a usian once, non? 770749;1406409342;chetty;indeed benkay 770750;1406409587;benkay;chetty: and no longer? 770751;1406409637;benkay;mircea_popescu: per http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-june-statement/#footnote_1_55436 will the coverage be tracked for each D.*? 770752;1406409638;assbot;F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 770753;1406409789;DreadKnight;finally found it http://kindofnormal.com 770754;1406409790;assbot;Kind of Normal 770755;1406409816;asciilifeform;chetty: you'll never really know until you try << well, for whatever it's worth, i did manage to actually get in the airplane (instead of a waiting gasenwagen) in april. to, i admit, a little bit of surprise. but who knows about next time. 770756;1406409851;FabianB;;;ticker --currency eur --last 770757;1406409852;gribble;444.5262 770758;1406409923;chetty;good job asciilifeform, I am not so sure the gasenwagen will be a joke much longer 770759;1406409952;asciilifeform;gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage. 770760;1406409960;chetty;benkay, havent been back in a decade 770761;1406410022;thestringpuller;it's funny how a decade ago is 2004 770762;1406410026;thestringpuller;i definitely feel old 770763;1406410031;thestringpuller;thanks chetty thanks a lot :P 770764;1406410105;benkay;chetty: d'you pay taxes? still have a US passport? 770765;1406410124;benkay;feel free to tell me to get stuffed with my questions 770766;1406410140;*;asciilifeform is, in case anyone didn't know, still walking 'the big zone.' 770767;1406410174;benkay;;;ud "the big zone" 770768;1406410175;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Danger%20Zone | When you are in a dangerous situation i.e. the danger zone. ... After ripping the big one, Timmy had one thing to say: "Danger Zone!" (Everyone immediatly left ... 770769;1406410185;asciilifeform;benkay: nope. 770770;1406410188;asciilifeform;benkay: большая зона. 770771;1406410203;asciilifeform;benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770509 770772;1406410203;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 770773;1406410222;benkay;ah ah 770774;1406410231;chetty;benkay, yup and yup 770775;1406410235;asciilifeform;the starred-and-striped big zone. 770776;1406410260;chetty;isnt that the big gulag? 770777;1406410262;benkay;chetty: you wouldn't be paying state taxes, though, correct? just federal? 770778;1406410302;chetty;yup, they get you on fed tax for 10 years even if you give up passport 770779;1406410321;thestringpuller;could always be like voorhees and revoke citizenship 770780;1406410348;benkay;chetty: i am aware of that bit, yes. 770781;1406410361;benkay;but the "no state taxes" thing is no small bonus. 770782;1406410367;benkay;what's the tax situation like in Argentina? 770783;1406410419;asciilifeform;thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. law is a 'god that died.' 770784;1406410421;chetty;nasty taxes here, and huge hits for moving money in/out of country 770785;1406410467;benkay;what is "nasty taxes"? 770786;1406410498;benkay;and lolya i can imagine moving fiat into or out of ars would be an expensive proposition. 770787;1406410520;chetty;well not sure what the local income tax is, dont have a local job yet but 35% to take any money out of country 770788;1406410554;chetty;oh and a wealth tax ..5% of whatever you have over some amount 770789;1406410596;benkay;is that a one-time-thing or more like the 0.5% of "assets under mgmt" 770790;1406410614;benkay;that hits the fund investor every year 770791;1406410678;chetty;assets, and it goes up % wise at some point too, not really sure where all the gates are. I just keep my head down 770792;1406410720;benkay;1.25 above 5'000'000 AR$ 770793;1406410738;benkay;interesting stuff, chetty. 770794;1406410747;thestringpuller;Is this why pirates bury their gold? 770795;1406410763;chetty;thestringpuller, exactly 770796;1406410795;benkay;no need to bury things anymore 770797;1406410810;benkay;it's *all* buried now. 770798;1406410832;benkay;i do look forward to constructing my last will testament and treasure hunt to reconstruct my offline keys 770799;1406410840;kuzetsa;burried treasure is a myth 770800;1406410844;kuzetsa;pirates don't do that 770801;1406410877;asciilifeform;kuzetsa: buried treasure is real, but generally results from folks who bury goodies and then get killed before they can make any use of them. 770802;1406410892;asciilifeform;like the pots of gold still sometimes found in digs of roman villas 770803;1406410913;asciilifeform;they did not save their owners. 770804;1406410925;benkay;!t h rent 770805;1406410925;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00429284 / 0.00438989 / 0.00439183 (51 shares, 0.22388434 BTC), 7D: 0.00400000 / 0.00420971 / 0.00538009 (2254 shares, 9.48867984 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00404037 / 0.00540000 (9750 shares, 39.39365267 BTC) 770806;1406410971;cazalla;DreadKnight, i quit when Nikasaur left :\ 770807;1406410983;asciilifeform;kuzetsa: still not unheard of, in russia: a construction crew, tearing up a 19th c. apartment building, finding cigar boxes with thick stacks of pre-revolution rubles, silver coins, etc. 770808;1406411011;DreadKnight;cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on patreon.com apparently 770809;1406411012;asciilifeform;no prizes for guessing fate of the owner. 770810;1406411147;kuzetsa;fine fine, yeah... it has happened, and more than just pirates have done the "bury something to keep it safe" tactic, but just because it's common enough that it's "not unheard of" doesn't make it "actually a common practice" 770811;1406411155;cazalla;DreadKnight, was just coincidence but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her 770812;1406411180;DreadKnight;http://www.patreon.com/nikaharper 770813;1406411181;assbot;Support Nika Harper creating words, stories, tales, and the unknown 770814;1406411194;DreadKnight;cazalla, I agree; she's quite hot and fun 770815;1406411211;kuzetsa;O_O 770816;1406411228;DreadKnight;anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far 770817;1406411245;DreadKnight;the power of bewbs. 770818;1406411263;kuzetsa;I suspect it's more than just "being female" 770819;1406411277;DreadKnight;it's a bit more, yeah 770820;1406411281;kuzetsa;some non-zero entertainment value in the produced content 770821;1406411307;DreadKnight;though she has popularity, without that crowd funding websites are pretty useless 770822;1406411309;cazalla;DreadKnight, someone like her doing bitcoin news on youtube would get views instead of that ditzy asian girl on followthecoin 770823;1406411319;kuzetsa;well-connected and good at marketing (social media or otherwise) is probably more to do with it than "the power of boobs" 770824;1406411350;DreadKnight;cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such 770825;1406411376;DreadKnight;will check the asian girl you mentioned 770826;1406411378;kuzetsa;equipment? 770827;1406411387;DreadKnight;camera / lights / green screen 770828;1406411389;kuzetsa;oh 770829;1406411395;kuzetsa;yeah, I have that 770830;1406411428;cazalla;DreadKnight, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPwPnWlQXSU 770831;1406411428;assbot;Bitcoin Below $400, Massive Security Breach, 4,000 Merchants, and Congress - YouTube 770832;1406411428;kuzetsa;but it's mostly used for photographing inventory stuff for 's online store 770833;1406411463;cazalla;DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok, just lacking personality that someone like Nikasaur has, tits + her enthusiasm would do well imo 770834;1406411496;*;benkay gags 770835;1406411507;benkay;moiety'd do better. 770836;1406411513;kuzetsa;yeah, having a decent personality & being able to market one's self is good 770837;1406411519;kuzetsa;*cough* iJustine 770838;1406411535;cazalla;benkay, with that accent? for sure 770839;1406411579;DreadKnight;cazalla, yeah, was just checking out some of the vids, she's so-so 770840;1406411611;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, ijustine kinda annoys me sometimes, too much of a crapple fan girl 770841;1406411635;kuzetsa;huh 770842;1406411654;kuzetsa;speaking of annoying, I've never seen a "follow the coin" video before 770843;1406411656;cazalla;how about miss hannah minx? 770844;1406411689;DreadKnight;cazalla, lol; there's also "hot for words", another youtube show about cleavage pretending to be educational 770845;1406411692;kuzetsa;not sure it's always the same person, but I jsut watched the one cazalla linked like 5 minutes ago, and the constant jumping-around shot from 20 billion camera angles per paragraph was giving me a headache 770846;1406411727;DreadKnight;sounds like what Michael Bay does with Transformers 770847;1406411732;cazalla;DreadKnight, seen that, not my type though 770848;1406411753;kuzetsa;cazalla: I'm unfamiliar with hannah minx 770849;1406411797;kuzetsa;cazalla: privmsg 770850;1406411802;cazalla;kuzetsa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIt_hedcBTc 770851;1406411803;assbot;JWOW - Let's Exercise! (^o^)b - YouTube 770852;1406411805;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, small brunette, big blue eyes, big tits that always make it into the shot and juggle around, cute stuff, lots of japanese-anime words, a doge 770853;1406411816;cazalla;you can post that in channel kuzetsa 770854;1406411816;DreadKnight;jiggle* 770855;1406411839;DreadKnight;and a lot of cleavage* 770856;1406411860;DreadKnight;and top-to-down camera angle 770857;1406411867;DreadKnight;bird eye view 770858;1406411901;DreadKnight;all comments are about sex and boobs usually on her vids 770859;1406412049;benkay;just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list 770860;1406412049;cazalla;kuzetsa PM me, thinks i'm slut shaming these women lol 770861;1406412100;DreadKnight;haha 770862;1406412113;DreadKnight;they do that on their own as a hobby / job 770863;1406412131;DreadKnight;every social thing has quite a few of such women 770864;1406412148;cazalla;http://pastebin.com/gQhzUfkp we could've had this conversation in here kuzetsa 770865;1406412148;assbot; "... but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her"  lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? legacy-control.com is slow and throws errors << prolly cause of the log watching ppls. 770870;1406412231;mircea_popescu; mircea_popescu: per http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-june-statement/#footnote_1_55436 will the coverage be tracked for each D.*? << that q made no sense. 770871;1406412232;assbot;F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 770872;1406412239;kuzetsa;cazalla: oh uhm... well allright then 770873;1406412253;kuzetsa;I can have the discussion here instead if you really prefer 770874;1406412262;mircea_popescu; gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage. <<< you failed to qualify ? 770875;1406412270;kuzetsa;I just know in #bitcoin that personal disputes and whatnot are generally expected to be done in privmsg 770876;1406412301;benkay;mircea_popescu: is "cover" for all d-series contracts or is it reserved per contract? 770877;1406412311;*;kuzetsa refers to cazalla's pastebin for reference 770878;1406412343;kuzetsa;wow, how dose that already have over views? 770879;1406412346;benkay;eg: 50B of cover for D.BPAY, 0.2 of cover for D.BTGO 770880;1406412361;mircea_popescu; thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. la << actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot ? 770881;1406412362;kuzetsa;cazalla: so as per privmsg, I don't understand why you called me a faggot 770882;1406412378;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, that bitcoin channel seems to be dying lately, too quiet, dogecoin more fun 770883;1406412385;kuzetsa;benkay: what's a faminist? 770884;1406412405;kuzetsa;[18:01:35] no matter how many men you throw under the bus, being a feminist is not going to lead to them fucking you 770885;1406412405;kuzetsa;[18:01:59] what? 770886;1406412405;kuzetsa;[18:02:42] huh, noticed just now that I typoed on feminist... is "faminist" a word I'm just unfamiliar with? 770887;1406412405;kuzetsa;[18:03:14] is that misspelling a word and it means something? it really was just a typo, I didn't mean to confuse. 770888;1406412429;mircea_popescu; cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on patreon.com apparently << such idiocy. 770889;1406412450;cazalla;kuzetsa, i'm not sure what the problem is? 770890;1406412474;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, was expecting you would say that 770891;1406412515;kuzetsa;cazalla: well I don't understand what you're saying about men fucking me (or not) because I throw them under a bus or whatever... or why you called me a faggot 770892;1406412546;cazalla;kuzetsa, i thought you were saying you're a feminist and that i use slut shaming language 770893;1406412577;cazalla;fwiw, i don't object to nikasaur dressing trashy 770894;1406412579;kuzetsa;your definition of "trashy", and how you used it sure did sound like slut shaming 770895;1406412591;cazalla;but it is trashy 770896;1406412610;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, most people only care about charisma and looks and that's why they fund her, not really interested in her writing; it's nice she does what she likes but that's different from what she's good at apparently 770897;1406412643;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, saying "such idiocy" to whatever I say without arguments doesn't bring much to the table of conversation 770898;1406412675;kuzetsa;cazalla: mostly I'm just confused about why feminism = faggot (that logical jump confuses me) 770899;1406412678;benkay;there's nothing wrong with being trashy 770900;1406412686;benkay;connotations are all in your head 770901;1406412699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.188 = 3.196 BTC [-] 770902;1406412708;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, you're probably offended because you're a blogger yourself, but since you started blogging apparently you flamed more popular bloggers, so even you agree that not everyone should be writing stuff publicly :P 770903;1406412709;benkay;excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick. 770904;1406412733;DreadKnight;and tattoos 770905;1406412744;benkay;yeah sure - tattoos are great as well 770906;1406412750;kuzetsa;benkay: a lot of women chose to dress how they dress, wear their hair, makeup, tatoos, clothes, etc. for themselves, not for the benefit of others 770907;1406412754;cazalla;yeah, i like it on the right girl but i describe it as trashy, nfi why kuzetsa would take offense 770908;1406412766;benkay;it's clearly not for others. 770909;1406412772;benkay;doesn't mean we're not watching and watched ourselves. 770910;1406412787;benkay;i do a pile of sales. constantly. *i* dress for others. 770911;1406412808;*;kuzetsa nods 770912;1406412814;benkay;when I didn't, I didn't. 770913;1406412825;benkay;ripped jeans, mohawk, the works. 770914;1406412838;cazalla;kuzetsa, because imo feminists are faggots eg andreas derpopolous 770915;1406412866;kuzetsa;choices about outwardly expressing whatever self-image one has about ones self (and/or other reasons for dressing one way or another) just doesn't seem like a friendly thing to use as a basis for labeling someone as "trashy" 770916;1406412873;DreadKnight;internet is full of porn, girls who undress on webcam; dressing slutty = more attention; ( . ) ( . ) = $$$ 770917;1406412877;benkay;look there's a hobo on the street 770918;1406412884;benkay;he's clearly not dressing for anyone 770919;1406412889;benkay;and he's also clearly trashy 770920;1406412909;benkay;ofc my definition of such is going to differ from someone else's 770921;1406412916;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i have nfi who this is. pics ? 770922;1406412922;benkay;but i'll not be told to not speak my opinion of stuff. 770923;1406412941;mircea_popescu;and in any case, i'm not offended. 770924;1406412975;mircea_popescu;<benkay> excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick. << for sufficiently drunk guys :D 770925;1406412984;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, I linked near the quoted line, anyway seems you're too distracted to follow the conversation or reply overall, while others are debating about such women 770926;1406412988;kuzetsa;I personally don't feel "trash" or "trashy" is a good way to refer to persons --- trash is refuse, waste, compost, scrap, things to be recycled, or a computer metaphor for marking something as "trash" to be staged for deletion (such as putting one's unwanted spam emails in the trash) 770927;1406413015;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa so how does the logical jump work, from that to "not a good way to refer" ? 770928;1406413030;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, http://www.patreon.com/nikaharper so she got popular working for League of Legends, then she quit to write apparently 770929;1406413031;assbot;Support Nika Harper creating words, stories, tales, and the unknown 770930;1406413037;cazalla;kuzetsa, it's the right word because i'd fuck her and then throw her away, trash, not the sort of woman i'd bring home to meet my parents 770931;1406413054;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: it's dehumanizing to label someone as a term which is not inherently describing a state which is common to persons 770932;1406413060;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: to say that a person is " 770933;1406413061;benkay;kuzetsa: ever met a girl who gets off on being degraded? 770934;1406413070;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight just some random chick, i don't see anything special about her. why's she discussed in terms of hotness or wtf. 770935;1406413082;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa of course it is. so ? 770936;1406413092;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: ...(oops, erroneously inserted a linebreak) "trash", or "trashy" is degrading to their personhood 770937;1406413114;mircea_popescu;no, it's not. it merely claims to be. which, like all claims... 770938;1406413140;mircea_popescu;saying someone's a scammer is similarly degrading to their personhood. that's no reason not to say it. 770939;1406413144;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: to say that a person is trash is to liken that person to being a disposable, unwanted, low-value thing, not a person 770940;1406413150;mircea_popescu;yup. 770941;1406413188;mircea_popescu;the only criterion is whether she actually is trashy, not whether her being trashy'd ruin whatever for her. 770942;1406413193;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, others find her special and hot, especially being nerdy gamer; I usually don't get why Megan Fox has many fans, but that's me 770943;1406413208;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight well megan fox got teh tits on a thin frame. 770944;1406413221;mircea_popescu;and also she acts well :D 770945;1406413233;mircea_popescu;!up sexy_saffron 770946;1406413240;sexy_saffron;hello! 770947;1406413245;kuzetsa;hello 770948;1406413251;mircea_popescu;hey there. we're in the middle of a trashy argument! 770949;1406413254;benkay;!up fats_cd03 770950;1406413261;fluffypony;who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune? 770951;1406413263;benkay;this argument is trash. 770952;1406413263;sexy_saffron;oh? 770953;1406413270;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight anyway, the "idiocy" comment was re the patreon thing. the whole thing fundamentally doesn't work. 770954;1406413283;mircea_popescu;people would really like it to work nevertheless, so every few years there's a new implementation 770955;1406413284;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, for me she's just a tunned up bitch, just seen some of her roles earlier and she was playing the bitch role actually 770956;1406413286;mircea_popescu;which also fails to work. 770957;1406413297;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i think i did 770958;1406413307;benkay;(my dog just sneezed in his sleep and narrowly avoided rolling off the couch) 770959;1406413310;benkay;(hilarity) 770960;1406413313;fluffypony;just started, will report back afterwards 770961;1406413323;mircea_popescu;but anyway, i'm not a blogger myself. i just happen to keep a blog. 770962;1406413339;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, thought you meant my argument because you didn't said much, I agree about patreon not working unless you're popular, it's a wanna be kickstarter basically, but lacks a few important things 770963;1406413340;kuzetsa;sexy_saffron: yeah, "trash" conversation, in which my main objection is to degrading / defamatory / judgemental language being pointed at people due to clothing, hairstyle, personality, makeup, or whatever criterea is being used to target them in a dismissive manner :( 770964;1406413374;sexy_saffron;ok 770965;1406413383;kuzetsa;I wasn't intending to have the conversation publicly, but the other party whom I was trying to ask what they meant decided the privmsg contents should be copied onto a pastebin and shared with the whole channel 770966;1406413385;mircea_popescu;people should be targeted in a dismissive manner. builds character. 770967;1406413397;sexy_saffron;I agree 770968;1406413410;sexy_saffron;honesty is cruel sometimes 770969;1406413433;cazalla;kuzetsa, no reason for that conversation to occur in PM to begin with 770970;1406413434;kuzetsa;there's a difference between constructive criticism, charcter building, harassment, bullying, and joking around 770971;1406413441;sexy_saffron;definitely 770972;1406413444;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa ilustrate ? 770973;1406413458;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: illustrate what? 770974;1406413462;mircea_popescu;seems to me one man's constructive criticism is another man's harassment and bullying. 770975;1406413468;DreadKnight;!up HeySteve 770976;1406413473;mircea_popescu;afaik bingoboingo's got a trial coming up on this very point 770977;1406413478;DreadKnight;HeySteve, it worked :D 770978;1406413483;fats_cd03;whats the point of pretending like we respect each other? 770979;1406413485;HeySteve;gribble is full of shit tonight 770980;1406413487;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa that difference. but make it absolute. 770981;1406413488;HeySteve;thx DreadKnight 770982;1406413493;fats_cd03;its not the case IRL. 770983;1406413493;sexy_saffron;there's a fine line between derision and harsh constructive criticism 770984;1406413499;kuzetsa;wow I really can't follow this channel right now 770985;1406413506;HeySteve;<+fluffypony> who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune? <- yeah that's a very interesting film. guy's a real character 770986;1406413513;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, so you poked that zoso guy on purpose to get in the spot light? marketing strategy? 770987;1406413513;kuzetsa;this topic is apparently one which a lot of people are wanting to comment on 770988;1406413518;fats_cd03;is there some kind of internet etiquette insisting on politeness? i didnt check that box on install. 770989;1406413522;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron yeah but if it's not objectively drawn then might as well give up. people wil just claim hurtbutts to get out of things they don't want to hear. 770990;1406413522;sexy_saffron;I haven't seen that but I like the dune adaptations 770991;1406413540;sexy_saffron;oh ya, most people can't handle the truth 770992;1406413545;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i step on the heads of idiots. it's what i do. the only selection criteria is how lulzy they are and if im bored. 770993;1406413552;kuzetsa;FWIW, the privmsg was in-part because the channel was kinda intense and I was having trouble filtering through this many words per minute 770994;1406413555;HeySteve;kuzetsa, if you dress / act a certain way, you'll inevitably draw a reaction from others 770995;1406413577;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa it gets nuts doesn't it. and it has the harshest voice model of any chan on freenode, too. 770996;1406413587;mircea_popescu;no idea what we'll end up doing, because it won't let go im sure. 770997;1406413602;kuzetsa;HeySteve: the "had it coming" defense about agressing on somebody verbally or otherwise, to their face or otherwise isn't one I consider to be valid 770998;1406413610;mircea_popescu;on the grounds of what ? 770999;1406413610;sexy_saffron;I think the best philosophy is to just stay true to yourself and not care what other people think, as cliche as that sounds 771000;1406413615;HeySteve;kuzetsa, learning to evoke a positive reaction with your appearance / manner is just social intelligence 771001;1406413621;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron got it. 771002;1406413630;kuzetsa;HeySteve: I'm a social idiot, quite arguably 771003;1406413639;mircea_popescu;are you also a girl ? 771004;1406413643;fluffypony;hah hah - HeySteve right at the beginning, and it's already classic - I wanted to do a movie that would give the people that took LSD at that time the hallucinations that you get with that drug, but without hallucinating. I did not want LSD to be taken, I wanted to fabricate the drug's effect." 771005;1406413652;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, he had a few arguments against you that could stand valid, but overall it felt like he was trying to protect his "#1 blogger by traffic" crown by trying to dis the new competition 771006;1406413658;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: old enough to be a grandmother, so no, not a girl 771007;1406413663;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight so good for him. 771008;1406413669;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa so good for you. 771009;1406413693;HeySteve;lol yeah fluffypony, one artist apparently got tripped out just talking to Jodo, you'll see 771010;1406413719;mircea_popescu;giving new meaning to "being chtulhu" 771011;1406413731;kuzetsa;oooh, I like chtulhu (somewhat) 771012;1406413734;mircea_popescu;what if there existed a chick that'd get one high by having sex, provided it's bareback. 771013;1406413753;mircea_popescu;possibly varying effects by the hole, too. 771014;1406413770;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, I think that poison ivy in batman might fit the bill 771015;1406413772;mircea_popescu;this should totally be a goddess. and yet... my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ? 771016;1406413777;DreadKnight;HeySteve, ha, I kept telling people that, especially as advice to avoid online insults or even rape, but a lot of people insist in "I can dress the way I want, nobody should care; the raper is always the guilty one!", so I'm like "ok, good luck with that mentality" 771017;1406413803;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight there's a difference between rappers and rapists. 771018;1406413806;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/11DS5K5.txt ) 771019;1406413806;mircea_popescu;!b 2 771020;1406413818;mircea_popescu;sorry but it was just too good to pass on :D 771021;1406413819;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, ha, knowing you're female makes the whole "faggot" thing funnier :D 771022;1406413841;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah, thanks, typo 771023;1406413842;mircea_popescu;yea srsly. cazalla there you go, pming old ladies to call them faggots. wtf's wrong with you lmao 771024;1406413856;DreadKnight;HeySteve, s/raper/rapist xD 771025;1406413856;kuzetsa;O_O 771026;1406413867;cazalla;there's no women on the internet 771027;1406413878;sexy_saffron;? 771028;1406413881;mircea_popescu;you know that's a very homoerotic belief. 771029;1406413887;*;kuzetsa blushes 771030;1406413898;mircea_popescu;cazalla ever tried it with a dude ? 771031;1406413901;kuzetsa;wow, now I'm having yaoi-type thoughts about a few people 771032;1406413915;cazalla;mircea_popescu, no but someone did want to in high school 771033;1406413922;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa is that when underage boys rub foreskins or what was it ? 771034;1406413930;mircea_popescu;my azn cartoons variety speak is shit. 771035;1406413944;mircea_popescu;cazalla so why not try it out sometime then. 771036;1406413955;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: no, I think the genital VS genitals rubbing thing with penises (foreskins or otherwise) is called a frottage 771037;1406413969;mircea_popescu;;;ud yaoi 771038;1406413970;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yaoi | Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language. Popular with fangirls who like their favorite anime guy... 771039;1406413972;HeySteve;kuzetsa not a sword fight? 771040;1406413973;cazalla;i don't understand why it is homoerotic though, my understanding it's meaning is that a woman does not have the power to influence online as she does irl 771041;1406413975;mircea_popescu;ah ok. 771042;1406413988;mircea_popescu;cazalla now that's nonsense. 771043;1406413996;kuzetsa;wow, that urban dictionary thing is pretty accurate 771044;1406414014;mircea_popescu;now lessee if i can get caught up on this monsterlog jeez/ 771045;1406414024;kuzetsa;I've totally done the fangirl thing thinking of male characters romantically / physically involved with each other 771046;1406414025;sexy_saffron;I don't think gender has much to do with influence on the internet 771047;1406414032;sexy_saffron;on the internet, no one knows you're a dog 771048;1406414059;benkay;but here, we all sort of know each other fairly well. 771049;1406414060;cazalla;sexy_saffron, clearly you've never had a woman join your guild, demand officer status, demand items while using cybering to attain that from idiots who allowed her to destroy said guild with drama 771050;1406414062;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa hey, what do you do for a living ? 771051;1406414063;kuzetsa;good job, urban dictionary, that's totally what I meant by yaoi :) 771052;1406414076;DreadKnight;sexy_saffron, talk was mainly started by chicks popular on youtube mainly thanks to cleavage 771053;1406414079;sexy_saffron;ah, well there is that lol 771054;1406414082;mircea_popescu;cazalla no, actually, i had that lol. didn't really do much. 771055;1406414106;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: retired, technically 771056;1406414126;sexy_saffron;idk, I just think people can be shitty regardless of gender 771057;1406414132;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa im looking for someone to cover the countless anime forums on the web, if you're looking for work. 771058;1406414144;cazalla;mircea_popescu, happened to me in EQ, guild leader's wife joins, she start cybering the teenage boys which undermines his authority, it all went to shit after that 771059;1406414147;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron women can't be as shitty as men because they're inferior and all. 771060;1406414158;sexy_saffron;lol 771061;1406414165;mircea_popescu;cazalla so she's a great troll. why hate the playa ? 771062;1406414175;kuzetsa;sexy_saffron: yeah, people being unpleasant (shitty, whatever) doesn't have a strong correlation to any particular gender, race, religion, age, nationality, etc. 771063;1406414182;mircea_popescu;if i were a wife upset over matrimonial neglect i'd do the exact same thing. 771064;1406414185;mircea_popescu;only perhaps better. 771065;1406414199;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa age ? what, you kidding me ? 771066;1406414205;mircea_popescu;annyoing teenaged boys are a category. 771067;1406414210;kuzetsa;no, I'm not kidding about being retired 771068;1406414256;cazalla;kuzetsa, retired or on disability due to feminist issues such as gender dysmorphia, anxiety or other made up shit? 771069;1406414264;mircea_popescu;i meant the correlation with age. of course it correlates with gender and age, god help you with 16yo boyz. 771070;1406414275;mircea_popescu;lol this guy's got a scoring table all prepared. 771071;1406414296;kuzetsa;I still do a bit of consulting / contract work now and then though, as well as some speculation with bitcoin and such 771072;1406414316;fats_cd03;'and such' being? 771073;1406414359;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight: anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far <<< you know 20k a year is basically unemployment benefits. it doesn't really register as a fortune on anyone's radar. people like asciilifeform make many times that and essentially count themselves as paupers. 771074;1406414361;kuzetsa;fats_cd03: generally, this time, specifically, I probably meant the sorts of things which are often used as a basis for stereotypes or discrimination 771075;1406414391;kuzetsa;I could have instead said "or whatever" but "and such" seemed like a fun word choice this time 771076;1406414417;*;kuzetsa loads that substitition into the spintex content generation engine 771077;1406414418;fats_cd03;so you're saying you buy and hold bitcoin, and thats it 771078;1406414421;mircea_popescu;lol 771079;1406414439;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot kuzetsa 771080;1406414439;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 771081;1406414452;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, it's all relative to location, might not be much money, but the more you go East, the more of a king you are 771082;1406414453;kuzetsa;;;ratingsystem getrating kuzetsa 771083;1406414453;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa . User kuzetsa, rated since Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012. Cumulative rating 23, from 18 total ratings. Received ratings: 18 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa 771084;1406414458;fats_cd03;werd 771085;1406414496;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa what, wikipedia too ? you're like the perfect enemy. no wonder you'll catch a little flak here. 771086;1406414497;benkay;those 2012 ratings 771087;1406414506;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, she might be in USA, so it's not too much there indeed 771088;1406414525;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i think you're approaching this from the wrong angle. 771089;1406414536;mircea_popescu;living wages are living wages no matter how you turn it. 771090;1406414538;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: yes, I've been editing wikipedia for nearly a decade. 771091;1406414551;mircea_popescu;how can you stand it ? 771092;1406414557;kuzetsa;in small doses, mostly 771093;1406414561;mircea_popescu;i can see that. 771094;1406414580;kuzetsa;oh, you looking at my main WP page under the kuzetsa handle? 771095;1406414582;mircea_popescu;you stil playing eve ? 771096;1406414584;mircea_popescu;no. 771097;1406414602;kuzetsa;eve? no, not for a few months 771098;1406414620;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, living wages depend on geographical location overall and they vary a lot though 771099;1406414622;mircea_popescu;there's a large-ish bitcoin guild, smickles' in charge these days. 771100;1406414626;kuzetsa;no eve lately ever since that incident with me being a social idiot and I pissed off a pirate corp who all put large bounties on me 771101;1406414632;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight notrly. 771102;1406414652;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa how's being a social idiot manifest ? 771103;1406414658;mircea_popescu;sexy_saffron so how goes these days ? 771104;1406414679;sexy_saffron;days go well! 771105;1406414686;sexy_saffron;lots of shooting 771106;1406414694;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, if you're referring they're relative proportion to regular job, that's kinda "notrly" indeed, but when you consider internet crowd funding, that's a different story 771107;1406414707;mircea_popescu;notrly. :) 771108;1406414716;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight: cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such << she doing nudes ? 771109;1406414720;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: mostly, in my case, when I say "social idiot" I just mean I've had a low success rate for knowing what sort expecations are "standard" within cultures, groups, circles, etc. (whatever you call it -- social situations) 771110;1406414726;DreadKnight;100$ in USA is not equal to 100$ in Thaiwan 771111;1406414739;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa you survived here, inexplicably. 771112;1406414743;mircea_popescu;!up zzzzzzzzzzzzzz 771113;1406414751;zzzzzzzzzzzzzz;LOLOLOL 771114;1406414756;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight yeah it is. it' 771115;1406414760;mircea_popescu;s equal to nothing, everywhere. 771116;1406414762;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, she is but not for internet stuff; she's hot :3 771117;1406414787;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ if you hadn't seen it. 771118;1406414788;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771119;1406414789;DreadKnight;in USA you can eat a day, in Thaiwian you can eat a week from 100$; just an example 771120;1406414805;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, think I had it opened, was waiting for credit 771121;1406414807;mircea_popescu;i eat once, everywhere. here, romania, new york 771122;1406414811;fats_cd03;http://x64dbg.com/#start 771123;1406414812;assbot;x64_dbg 771124;1406414812;mircea_popescu;a hundred buck's a decent meal. 771125;1406414826;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: that spelling is confusing me... did you mean thailand or taiwan? 771126;1406414846;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, you, but there was also internet crowd funding involved in the equation when raising money 771127;1406414872;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, thailand 771128;1406414897;HeySteve;oh man that reminds me, there was a girl who wanted to do the tits for bits thing 771129;1406414903;kuzetsa;just don't wear the bitcoin logo on stuff, they might confuse it for baht, the local thai currency :) 771130;1406414903;HeySteve;if it's still going I should let her know 771131;1406414908;DreadKnight;so if you're in thailand and raise 100$ online, that's way better compared to living in USA and raising 100$ online from crowd funding 771132;1406414916;mircea_popescu;HeySteve it is. 771133;1406414931;DreadKnight;HeySteve, bumped into a website where chicks get naked for btc a while ago 771134;1406414932;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight $100 is not worth the hassle anyway. no matter where you live. 771135;1406414933;HeySteve;cool where do I see the current entrants, mircea_popescu? 771136;1406414949;HeySteve;DreadKnight, girls gone bitcoin maybe? 771137;1406414949;mircea_popescu;HeySteve you mean the people who already got paid ? scroll down on the article. 771138;1406414952;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, it was just an example 771139;1406414956;DreadKnight;HeySteve, might be 771140;1406414980;mircea_popescu;i dun think it was. i think it's representative. you're thinking in teh wrong terms. 771141;1406414992;mircea_popescu;you want to build something that's large, not to make enough for a pizza. 771142;1406415007;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 771143;1406415009;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 594.39, Best ask: 595.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.63000, Last trade: 595.02, 24 hour volume: 3525.30240017, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 603.0, 24 hour vwap: 594.747163713 771144;1406415045;mircea_popescu;cazalla: DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok << that azn chick is god awful. 771145;1406415047;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yes, 100$ won't personally get me far, but it would get me further than someone located in USA 771146;1406415063;sexy_saffron;I really like how my picture turned out :) 771147;1406415069;kuzetsa;O_O 771148;1406415079;cazalla;mircea_popescu, looks or personality or both? i bet she's a dead fish in bed 771149;1406415080;DreadKnight;azn? 771150;1406415098;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: silly spelling for "asian", and I think it has other connotations 771151;1406415100;kuzetsa;!ud azn 771152;1406415103;kuzetsa;;;ud azn 771153;1406415104;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AZN | "AzN pRydE, AzN tIL i DiE" WhOo HooOo i'm A DumBaSs DaT doEsnT knnO hOw To tyPe aNd EmBarRAsZz My rAcE anD EthNiCiTy by ClaiMinG PrYde WheN ... 771154;1406415104;HeySteve;some hotties 771155;1406415109;DreadKnight;was considering that might be 771156;1406415109;mircea_popescu;cazalla she looks meh and her personality is obnoxious. she speaks like she's chewing nibblets and her movements are atrocious. needs actor schooling. 771157;1406415132;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, agree, she's average, not worst choice but not best choice 771158;1406415133;cazalla;mircea_popescu, they all look the same to me 771159;1406415145;mircea_popescu;that's because you're a racist homoerotic aussie. 771160;1406415147;cazalla;azns, that is 771161;1406415166;kuzetsa;:( 771162;1406415187;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa what, did i just tinker with his personhood ? 771163;1406415189;HeySteve;a couple of those links have expired tho 771164;1406415200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 257 @ 0.0029 = 0.7453 BTC [-] 771165;1406415222;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: hmm? oh, I was mostly just embarrased by how I got all yaoi earlier at the "no women on internet" --> "homoerotic thing to say" joke earlier 771166;1406415229;mircea_popescu;omfg hannah minx = perianne boring's secret camho identitty ? 771167;1406415245;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: sad smiley because the homoerotic reference reminded me of it 771168;1406415252;kuzetsa;I'm such a pervert :( 771169;1406415276;mircea_popescu;if anyone's looking to spank someone, kuzetsa's asking for it. 771170;1406415298;benkay;why the sad face, kuzetsa ? 771171;1406415326;benkay;!up HeySteve 771172;1406415336;benkay;dude you gotta fix your keytuation 771173;1406415339;HeySteve;thx benkay 771174;1406415357;fluffypony;someone else was struggling with it the other day 771175;1406415359;mircea_popescu;benkay: just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list << what's that again ? 771176;1406415359;cazalla;i don't think you can be gay and racist, at least not in australia 771177;1406415360;HeySteve;gribble says my OTP is incorrect but it works with altgribble. dunno what's up 771178;1406415362;fluffypony;The20Year I think 771179;1406415379;fluffypony;nanotube: is gribble's GPG auth broken? 771180;1406415389;fluffypony;two people reporting the same error is weird 771181;1406415389;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i authed just fine earlier. 771182;1406415392;benkay;mircea_popescu: counterparty? "colored coins" v 4.2 771183;1406415408;fluffypony;[2014-07-25T20:07:35+0200] and it says the key is invalid 771184;1406415408;fluffypony;[2014-07-25T20:08:45+0200] ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:532f4c (and so on) 771185;1406415409;fluffypony;[2014-07-25T20:08:49+0200] (2:08:29 PM) gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. 771186;1406415417;mircea_popescu;benkay it also doesn't pay if the "companies" use a myspace page to "list" 771187;1406415423;fluffypony;HeySteve: are you seeing the same error as the20year was? 771188;1406415429;kuzetsa;benkay: 'cause I know well enough to know that a lot of yaoi hentai manga comics and anime are actually degrading to the idea of gay male-bodied persons being in stable, healthy relationships, and I'm a bit ashamed of my objectification-type thinking of of strangers in a pervy way which they might take offense to if they knew I was thinking that about them 771189;1406415442;HeySteve;yes fluffypony, exactly 771190;1406415452;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa you care too much. people are here for you to objectify. have fun. 771191;1406415460;fluffypony;HeySteve: ping nanotube about it, you're not the first person 771192;1406415469;HeySteve;male-bodied persons? you mean men? 771193;1406415476;mircea_popescu;fluffypony likely they were using a stale otp 771194;1406415477;HeySteve;will do, fluffypony 771195;1406415480;mircea_popescu;ie, not ;;eauth first 771196;1406415500;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, I used ;;eauth as usual 771197;1406415504;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I walked through what the20year was doing, his auth flow seemed correct 771198;1406415516;kuzetsa;oh, is gribble having trouble with eauth / bcauth? 771199;1406415518;mircea_popescu;HeySteve she doesn't say men because saying men would imply they have to be fucking men, and she doesn't want to nudge a bunch of pussies towards maturity. 771200;1406415552;mircea_popescu;fluffypony weird. 771201;1406415566;HeySteve;mircea_popescu and kuzetsa, I don't like seeing awkward language to serve political purposes, it's too 1984 771202;1406415602;mircea_popescu;good for a laugh./ 771203;1406415607;*;kuzetsa shrugs 771204;1406415611;benkay;mircea_popescu: hue 771205;1406415616;HeySteve;it doesn't really change anything, just makes communication confusing 771206;1406415639;benkay;;;ident 771207;1406415639;gribble;Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None 771208;1406415643;mircea_popescu;so on my box of panthers : "el tabaco te domina. dejalo". 771209;1406415651;mircea_popescu;if only all the subbie men looking for dommes knew this. 771210;1406415678;kuzetsa;HeySteve: I prefer to err on the side of sterile and verbose where being "less wordy" might result in ambiguity or leave room for interpretation 771211;1406415685;mircea_popescu;why ? 771212;1406415700;mircea_popescu;terseness is a verbosity all of its own. 771213;1406415739;kuzetsa;perhaps, though I've found that the formal terms for some of the ideas I often wish to express, are best done so in complete, gramatically correct sentences 771214;1406415744;jurov;"male-bodied persons" left me with quite a room for interpretation xD 771215;1406415755;HeySteve;I agree, meaning is like the sculpture within the marble, you have to chip away all the extraneous stuff 771216;1406415790;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa ironically, that notion got expressed in broken english. 771217;1406415816;kuzetsa;jurov: some people don't self-identify as "men" despite having the legal (and presumably, medical) status of a male person... I've had a lot of friends who don't have a strong sense of gender in their self-identification. 771218;1406415836;mircea_popescu;and you don't perceive this as a character flaw ? 771219;1406415839;fluffypony;when did #bitcoin-assets turn into Tumblr? 771220;1406415850;kuzetsa;neat 771221;1406415855;kuzetsa;I like this better than reddit 771222;1406415866;mircea_popescu;fluffypony isn't that pics only ? we has no pics. 771223;1406415872;jurov;.bait 771224;1406415874;benkay; terseness is a verbosity all of its own. // speaking in riddles is a great way to get people to think for themselves. 771225;1406415876;fluffypony;:-P 771226;1406415892;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/d08d2cf07efb8679db953857ee9273b0/tumblr_n3alwgmIrG1s4oxg5o1_500.jpg 771227;1406415895;mircea_popescu;there, fixed. 771228;1406415900;cazalla;kuzetsa, are you cis scum? 771229;1406415910;benkay;what a dainty little lock 771230;1406415920;mircea_popescu;benkay was merely a reference to yesterday's quantity / quality thing. 771231;1406415924;jurov;kuzetsa so you ask everyone about their self-identification first? what if they claim not to be persons at all? 771232;1406415954;jurov;you call them "human-shaped entity"? 771233;1406415962;benkay;my least favorite part of american english is the part where nouns aren't gendered. 771234;1406415980;mircea_popescu;who the fuck cares how people self idnetify ? all sorts of idiots self-identify as ceos of bitcoin entreprises, bitcoin investors, parts of the bitcoin community and so on and so forth ad nauseam. nobody worth two bits credits any of that self-identification crap. 771235;1406416003;mircea_popescu;benkay you should try russian. takes five days to figure out the genders of everything what goes in a entence. 771236;1406416019;kuzetsa;jurov: I've met people who self-identify some form of otherkin, and they legally still count as persons, despite a non-human self-identification... they also often accept the term "person" as being equally valid for non-human persons :P 771237;1406416057;benkay;mircea_popescu: gotta get my spanish more well-dialed first. 771238;1406416062;kuzetsa;jurov: I don't understand your point, though suspect you might be attempting a straw-man arguemnt or somesuch, or perhaps poking fun at my use of the word "person" 771239;1406416076;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa no, he's just gay and spunky. 771240;1406416078;kuzetsa;(please clarify) 771241;1406416084;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: oh... that works too 771242;1406416086;kuzetsa;I like spunk 771243;1406416091;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1SA9W2F.txt ) 771244;1406416091;benkay;!b 1 771245;1406416106;kuzetsa;oh dear 771246;1406416106;mircea_popescu;now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?! 771247;1406416119;benkay;kuzetsa: do you have a particular bent for the genderqueer crowd? 771248;1406416123;kuzetsa;isn't spunk some sort of euphamism for semen or some other bodily fluid? 771249;1406416123;jurov;i mean, what do you do if you feel the word "person" to be loaded and demeaning 771250;1406416134;jurov;? 771251;1406416141;DreadKnight;let the girl like spunk. 771252;1406416155;mircea_popescu;it's nourishing! 771253;1406416156;benkay; now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?! // it's a good demonstration of some fundamental human characteristics. 771254;1406416172;benkay;constants, if you will, if such a thing can exist. 771255;1406416174;jurov;lol spunky. you have no idea. 771256;1406416192;benkay;i think perhaps mircea_popescu does have an idea 771257;1406416197;DreadKnight;this channel so logged and censored >_< feels a bit like a concert where everybody has phone up to film 771258;1406416205;DreadKnight;record* better term 771259;1406416205;benkay;logged and censored? 771260;1406416212;DreadKnight;"!b 1" 771261;1406416225;mircea_popescu;allow me to continue supplying hardware : http://37.media.tumblr.com/8270f7362284992d3102dbdd1a053eb8/tumblr_mycv8yoSfl1ruent2o1_500.jpg 771262;1406416232;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight how is it censored ? 771263;1406416254;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: interesting, I guess you find BDSM to be "not unpleasant" based on the past 2 datapoints 771264;1406416257;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, by removing stuff from log 771265;1406416270;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight that hasn't happened yet has it ? 771266;1406416283;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, guess not... 771267;1406416295;DreadKnight;so nvm 771268;1406416298;kuzetsa;I'm reminded earlier about a comment someone made about women who like to be demeaned or humiliated or whatever 771269;1406416298;benkay;DreadKnight: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com 771270;1406416298;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 771271;1406416312;mircea_popescu;meh where was that link with the girls 771272;1406416326;benkay;that's a pretty funny tan 771273;1406416329;kuzetsa;that's not the same thing as being non-consensually defamed by a stranger 771274;1406416340;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ there you go 771275;1406416342;assbot;NSFW - Mosu’ cu joarda pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771276;1406416343;benkay;o we do consensual defamation these days? 771277;1406416354;benkay;implying defamation is also rape now? 771278;1406416358;mircea_popescu;speech requires no consent. 771279;1406416366;mircea_popescu;well, sex either, but that's a different story. 771280;1406416390;benkay;omg rape is a subcategory of sex! 771281;1406416394;benkay;heretic! 771282;1406416423;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: I didn't know for sure, so I tossed the partial phrase: [unu’ care se pricepe la absolut tot] into google translate -- romanian? 771283;1406416425;mircea_popescu;no irs not. it's a kind of assault. 771284;1406416441;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa "one that knows everything". it's ironic, as in, he THIN?KS he does. 771285;1406416446;mircea_popescu;romanian does a lot of subtext like that. 771286;1406416529;benkay;btw y'all, don't be using bit-c 771287;1406416567;mircea_popescu;bit-c ? 771288;1406416632;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: oooh, so is it an idiomatic non-literal phrase similar to in english, calling someone a "know-it-all" ? 771289;1406416644;mircea_popescu;similar. 771290;1406416646;*;kuzetsa nods 771291;1406416680;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b2a6f5979495b9948cf7d7552a3b78b/tumblr_n4yc7cNS7R1qddd4so1_500.jpg << chicks. 771292;1406416699;kuzetsa;I was unable to get the entire page to play nicely with google translate 771293;1406416700;kuzetsa;it ended up translated to something or other about paid conent 771294;1406416700;benkay;;;google bitc/bit-c 771295;1406416701;gribble;The BitC Programming Language: ; BitC Documentation: ; bit-c/bitc · GitHub: 771296;1406416711;DreadKnight;what's with the nudes? mircea_popescu :D 771297;1406416712;benkay;that third one 771298;1406416717;benkay;;;google bitc/bit-c 771299;1406416718;gribble;The BitC Programming Language: ; BitC Documentation: ; bit-c/bitc · GitHub: 771300;1406416756;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa yeah trilema lets you see a few articles each week, then you gotta pay. much to DreadKnight's fortune, he's not yet discovered how much btc amassed into that address. 771301;1406416756;kuzetsa;*content, specifically: "This article is available for a fee." 771302;1406416768;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight b-a tradition. 771303;1406416776;mircea_popescu;we used to have a dedicated bot but then it was too tame or something 771304;1406416778;benkay;i miss ozbot 771305;1406416786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.0029 = 0.7163 BTC [-] 771306;1406416787;mircea_popescu;i dun recall what the issue was really 771307;1406416792;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: oooh, so the google translate server farm thinger has been detected as having exceeded quota? 771308;1406416803;benkay;https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24523564/china-seals-off-town-after-man-dies-of-bubonic-plague/ 771309;1406416808;assbot;China seals off town after man dies of bubonic plague - Yahoo!7 771310;1406416808;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa prolly. 771311;1406416810;kuzetsa;makes sense, neat. 771312;1406416846;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa anyway, the gist of it is that some random ro blogger got caught stealing a pic off a chan and presenting it as himself assfucking the girl in question. 771313;1406416852;mircea_popescu;his response was that "all blogers steal" 771314;1406416862;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, roger; was confused at first to see "Credits: 4" on your website, as I was thinking of the "cast" thingy like in movies; but yeah, you seem to write quite a bit about everything, so I see that working more and more with time as people get more familiar with technologies and digital currencies and become less scrubs hopefully 771315;1406416879;mircea_popescu;my response is this article, saying yeah, check it out, he's right. lucky me, i just stole some pictures off google which just happen to depict my own slaves. yay. 771316;1406416879;benkay;;;later tell bingoboingo http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/07/23/3463562/arizonas-execution-botched/ 771317;1406416880;assbot;Arizona's Execution Attempt Goes Horribly Wrong As Man Remains Alive Nearly 2 Hours After Injection | ThinkProgress 771318;1406416880;gribble;The operation succeeded. 771319;1406416885;HeySteve;hmm if her arms were free she'd be a better scarecrow 771320;1406416907;*;asciilifeform went to exercise and, as usual, missed all the goodstuff 771321;1406416929;benkay;i've never quite grokked what goes through the tied-up human's head when they're so tied for hours 771322;1406416940;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform see, exercising is bad for you 771323;1406416945;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot << so far, the only effect is to make u.s. small arms collectors pay double for kalash 771324;1406416947;mircea_popescu;benkay so try it. 771325;1406416967;kuzetsa;benkay: that bit-c thing reminded me of a thing I recently came across which converts LLVM bytecode into javascript: https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/wiki 771326;1406416968;assbot;Home kripken/emscripten Wiki GitHub 771327;1406416977;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: gasenwagen... triage. <<< you failed to qualify >> so far. 771328;1406417000;kuzetsa;emscripten is apparently pretty mature, and has been around for a few years (next month is 4th aniversary, they already have over 10k commits in the repo and everything!!!!) 771329;1406417023;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/fbd73d9ff41f1bf4abf73bb8ae7ae353/tumblr_mx8mknyisx1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << incidentally, this is stable. she's not ghoing anywhere. 771330;1406417055;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: russian way is to use same cuffs and a radiator. 771331;1406417063;mircea_popescu;anything heavy 771332;1406417142;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ? >> ishtar. 771333;1406417148;mircea_popescu;nah 771334;1406417158;mircea_popescu;!up HeySteve 771335;1406417174;mircea_popescu;!up dbit 771336;1406417190;benkay;mircea_popescu: who'll do the tying tho 771337;1406417201;mircea_popescu;benkay you had a wife no ? 771338;1406417208;HeySteve;thx mircea_popescu, I left a note for nanotube on that issue. 771339;1406417209;benkay;past tense lol 771340;1406417228;benkay;hm, i suppose. 771341;1406417235;mircea_popescu;what, are you having her right now "?! 771342;1406417236;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ...count themselves as paupers << yep 771343;1406417250;benkay;always figured there was something to the person and the theatre of it, but perhaps a more utilitarian approach is called for 771344;1406417263;benkay;you joker! 771345;1406417264;mircea_popescu;there's no theatre in slavery or in security. 771346;1406417273;mircea_popescu;where theatre begins either has long ended. 771347;1406417299;benkay;can slavery be turned on and off? 771348;1406417305;mircea_popescu;once. 771349;1406417337;benkay;yeah. 771350;1406417343;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it isn't about the money, but the chain. long chain or short chain, no matter. but, if the 20k came from a mythical machine that disgorges dough, that'd be a different matter. in my book, that's a 'fortune' - because no chain. 771351;1406417364;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kinda what i was trying to get across to the guy, from another angle. 771352;1406417399;mircea_popescu;same with the kid on my blog asking me why i'm not the one doing the romanian btc atm. well... because they won't do it on my terms and i'm not doing it on theirs. obviously. 771353;1406417400;asciilifeform;this is why, e.g. spammers, break their necks trying to score the 20k machine. 771354;1406417404;asciilifeform;they dream of escape. 771355;1406417417;mircea_popescu;at least ideally, sure. 771356;1406417424;benkay;!s benkay dream 771357;1406417425;assbot;18 results for 'benkay dream' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=benkay+dream 771358;1406417446;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2014#616283 771359;1406417446;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 771360;1406417486;mircea_popescu;"Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou 771361;1406417486;mircea_popescu;hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip.' 771362;1406417508;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what part of that reads like "fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot" 771363;1406417545;asciilifeform;lol 771364;1406417571;asciilifeform;nobody declined the chance to fuck ishtar though. 771365;1406417622;mircea_popescu;now how would you know that. 771366;1406417629;asciilifeform;well, legend. 771367;1406417636;mircea_popescu;it doth not say that does it ? 771368;1406417649;*;mircea_popescu is not exactly a middle east specialist. 771369;1406417649;*;asciilifeform only vaguely recalls the relevant text 771370;1406417666;fluffypony;holy fuck HR Giger is creepy in this documentary 771371;1406417685;fluffypony;he's like a creepy uncle that wants to watch you change 771372;1406417727;mircea_popescu;lmao wut 771373;1406418062;*;mircea_popescu is really curious if benkay took the implicit "so have her lock you up" as intended or simply read the neutral statemen the other way :D 771374;1406418358;benkay;hm? what's the other interpretation? 771375;1406418373;mircea_popescu;you locking her up 771376;1406418428;benkay;yeah no, can't imagine that answering my questions. 771377;1406418472;mircea_popescu;prolly not. make for decent dinner conversation for a while tho 771378;1406418618;benkay;myeah. plus, fun for all parties involved. 771379;1406418646;HeySteve;fluffypony for sure! was sad to hear of his death, really enjoy his art 771380;1406418662;benkay;on an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TOPIC, mircea_popescu what sorts of events will trigger F.DERP divs? 771381;1406418687;mircea_popescu;mostly overcapitalisation 771382;1406418712;benkay;fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh? 771383;1406418893;kuzetsa;did I miss anything when I wandered off other than mircea_popescu ... wait, what 771384;1406418903;kuzetsa;fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot? 771385;1406418917;*;kuzetsa tries to figure out the context 771386;1406418982;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7306 @ 0.0008003 = 5.847 BTC [+] 771387;1406419021;kuzetsa;probably just commentary or misunderstanding about some sort of confusing poetry... I hope? 771388;1406419069;benkay;kuzetsa: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014&bots=true#771012 771389;1406419069;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 771390;1406419114;jurov;so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC? 771391;1406419136;benkay;this depends on what we mean by NAV 771392;1406419153;kuzetsa;benkay: oh wow... that was an awfully large gap in context from the initial comment to the later one 771393;1406419166;jurov;;;calc (1000-793)*0.24 771394;1406419167;gribble;49.68 771395;1406419184;benkay;50btc, which incidentally is just what's in coverage 771396;1406419191;benkay;now - does nav include coverage? 771397;1406419216;benkay;kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation 771398;1406419264;benkay;kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage? 771399;1406419355;jurov;!t m d.bpay 771400;1406419356;assbot;Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. 771401;1406419366;jurov;!t m s.mpoe 771402;1406419366;assbot;Your actions are useless. 771403;1406419372;jurov;!t mpex s.mpoe 771404;1406419372;assbot;You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. 771405;1406419373;benkay;gr8 771406;1406419386;jurov;!ticker mpex s.mpoe 771407;1406419387;assbot;Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. 771408;1406419401;jurov;/o 771409;1406419412;benkay;kakobrekla: assbot's broken 771410;1406419452;benkay;!mpif 771411;1406419452;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] 771412;1406419454;benkay;!help 771413;1406419454;assbot;List of commands: 771414;1406419455;assbot;!up (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating) 771415;1406419456;assbot;!up (desc: sending it on chan will give voice for 30 minutes) 771416;1406419457;assbot;!ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} 771417;1406419458;assbot;!last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} 771418;1406419459;assbot;!mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) 771419;1406419460;assbot;!rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} 771420;1406419461;assbot;!exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} 771421;1406419462;assbot;!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) 771422;1406419463;assbot;!bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} 771423;1406419464;assbot;!quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} 771424;1406419465;kuzetsa;benkay: there's too much text in here 771425;1406419486;benkay;kuzetsa: it ain't so bad 771426;1406419556;kuzetsa;it's busier than most channels I'm able to keep up with 771427;1406419579;benkay;so ditch the zeros and hang with the heroes 771428;1406419767;jurov;btw, mpex.ws says the volume is only 42 771429;1406419777;jurov;on d.bpay 771430;1406419836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17011317 = 1.8712 BTC [-] {3} 771431;1406419897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17004559 = 1.8705 BTC [-] {4} 771432;1406419908;mircea_popescu; fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh? << yes. 771433;1406419939;mircea_popescu; so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC? << yes. 771434;1406419975;mircea_popescu; kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage? << yes. let's model this thing : 771435;1406420000;mircea_popescu;F gets 100 btc in cash, issues 50 btc worth of f.a shares and 50 btc worth of f.b shares. 10 btc of each sells. 771436;1406420004;mircea_popescu;f now has 120 in cash. 771437;1406420019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-] 771438;1406420030;mircea_popescu;100 of which is equity of shareholders, 20 is provisions. 771439;1406420057;mircea_popescu;f.a croaks. f.b now has the same 120 in cash, but equity moves : 110 shareholders, 10 provisions. leaving a nav gain of 10. 771440;1406420070;mircea_popescu;f.b lists, the f section thereof being worth 30 btc. 771441;1406420082;mircea_popescu;f now has 90 in cash, and nav dropped 20 from last, and 10 lifetime. 771442;1406420087;mircea_popescu;make sense ? 771443;1406420164;jurov;you mean d.a and d.b ? 771444;1406420195;mircea_popescu;as the case may be, yes. 771445;1406420246;mircea_popescu;now, this is not mandatory, in the sense that an investor can evaluate the nav through absolutely any methodology that investor likes. 771446;1406420294;jurov;won't there be f.mpif-style marketmaker for f.derp? 771447;1406420313;mircea_popescu;nope. 771448;1406420370;mircea_popescu;and here's one speshul for pankkake http://37.media.tumblr.com/53fbd15a90e53bc23b349de22ea8fa3c/tumblr_n4g2brf52J1qddd4so1_500.jpg 771449;1406420449;benkay;fuq is going on there? 771450;1406420480;mircea_popescu;and here's one for benkay http://whiteslaver.tumblr.com/post/83525401294 771451;1406420480;assbot;White Slavery is Real 771452;1406420525;benkay;nom 771453;1406420559;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, could use some tutoring about stocks / shares / dividends as well, mainly from the perspective of getting something listed 771454;1406420570;mircea_popescu;;;google how does one list on mpex 771455;1406420571;gribble;How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Why List On MPEx? | When Bitcoin Met Pete: ; MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges - Bitcoin Forum: 771456;1406420590;DreadKnight;thanks 771457;1406420605;jurov;makes sense, only i suspect f.derp will fall to quirky pricing of mpex assets 771458;1406420680;mircea_popescu;mebbe 771459;1406420813;kuzetsa;;;echo kuzetsa highlight test] 771460;1406420813;gribble;Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 771461;1406420821;kuzetsa;;;echo kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2) 771462;1406420821;gribble;kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2) 771463;1406420828;kuzetsa;ah good, I correctly configured my client 771464;1406420857;kuzetsa;[20:00:17] <+benkay> kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation 771465;1406420869;benkay;yesm? 771466;1406420917;kuzetsa;benkay: thanks for the advice --- despite being busier than I'm used to, I happen to like it here more than most channels, so I finally got around to configuring my "highlight on nick" feature on my client 771467;1406420964;kuzetsa;I really should've done it ages ago, I'm often in a more than 2 dozen channels across no fewer than 4 networks most of the time 771468;1406420971;benkay;lol that's a pretty scanty sample on which to base that 771469;1406420975;benkay;we must be p awesome 771470;1406420978;kuzetsa;(lately it's been 30+ channels across 5 networks) 771471;1406421056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01533003 = 0.8738 BTC [+] {2} 771472;1406421098;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa i do only 1 chan 771473;1406421124;kuzetsa;I like no fewer than 4chan, but mostly because I'm such a /b/tard 771474;1406421150;benkay;wait a /b/tard who gets panty-twisted over gender assignations? 771475;1406421153;kuzetsa;... I really don't go in /b/ much these days though (or any of 4chan, really) 771476;1406421164;mircea_popescu;o.O 771477;1406421167;mircea_popescu;are we being trolled ? 771478;1406421200;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: not by me (at this time) 771479;1406421205;kuzetsa;I occasionally attempt humor though 771480;1406421213;kuzetsa;... and that rarely works out well 771481;1406421223;mircea_popescu;!up BrianB 771482;1406421228;benkay;time will tell i suppose 771483;1406421259;cazalla;kuzetsa, how about /pol/ ? 771484;1406421263;jurov;on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years" 771485;1406421264;kuzetsa;yes, I'm doing a pirateat40-style long con or something, except with trolling 771486;1406421310;jurov;wouldn't be better to pay out part of it right after d.* event? 771487;1406421312;kuzetsa;cazalla: which one is that on? gurochan? or is it 4chan and I just don't pay close enough attention? 771488;1406421316;mircea_popescu;jurov in principle if one wants to keep the same btc value that one just sells share 771489;1406421319;benkay; on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years" // yeah, this. 771490;1406421334;benkay;i like the mpex assets that accumulate btc. 771491;1406421340;cazalla;kuzetsa, this one http://boards.4chan.org/pol/ 771492;1406421341;assbot;/pol/ - Politically Incorrect 771493;1406421344;benkay;:thumbsup: from the kid 771494;1406421394;jurov;it's then hard to sell for me "it will never pay anything, but dun worry, mircea has it" 771495;1406421404;*;kuzetsa clicks cazalla's link out of morbid curiousity 771496;1406421424;mircea_popescu;isn't that how everything goes ? 771497;1406421454;jurov;it does not go for coinbr :( 771498;1406421471;jurov;it needs another s.dice 771499;1406421491;benkay;now hang on just liquidate the thing when you want out 771500;1406421495;benkay;as nav goes up so will bids 771501;1406421502;mircea_popescu;^ 771502;1406421527;kuzetsa;cazalla: thanks, I skimmed the first page of /pol/ and then when I got to the bottom I intentionally clicked a banner ad link which took me to jlist since it seemed more interesting than checking the next page 771503;1406421540;mircea_popescu;;;ud jlist 771504;1406421541;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jlist.com | ... JLIHP · j'like · J Lil' Swag · j'lin · J. Lindeberg · j-line · JLing · jlining · Jlink · Jlinklet · J. Linz · Jliop · j-list · Jlist.com · J-lister · JLit · JLJC ... Jlist.com isn't defined. 771505;1406421550;benkay;mircea_popescu's committed to filling sells below nav every day 771506;1406421564;benkay;if he stops, the jig is clearly up anyways lololololol 771507;1406421586;mircea_popescu;i am ? 771508;1406421606;jurov;benkay he just said, no MM 771509;1406421620;benkay;"To maintain liquidity, all ASKS under NAV will be bought up once during the 24 hour period after the fund reports. " 771510;1406421651;jurov;that's from where? 771511;1406421659;benkay;there's no contract, clearly, which is impeding this discussion. 771512;1406421663;*;benkay elbows mircea_popescu 771513;1406421671;benkay;http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-fderp/ 771514;1406421672;assbot;Introducing F.DERP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771515;1406421710;cazalla;kuzetsa, l2adblock and troll harder 771516;1406421789;kuzetsa;cazalla: nah, I just use a sandboxed browsers and have a rate limiter on how much CPU waste any particular script can use 771517;1406421789;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly, a bond of sisterhood : http://38.media.tumblr.com/6a01f43d02568fbd24a0a0eca4f1b4f6/tumblr_n3ml6w9kv31qlne6uo1_500.jpg 771518;1406421864;kuzetsa;cazalla: and incidentally, I really was bored and wandered over to jlist -- they have nice merch. 771519;1406421884;benkay;man cazalla you're p butthurt this afternoon 771520;1406421892;cazalla;kuzetsa, are you japanese? 771521;1406421979;cazalla;benkay, not reary, just bored, little sleep, teething baby and all 771522;1406422006;benkay;brutal. 771523;1406422045;mircea_popescu;basically he's horny. 771524;1406422147;kuzetsa;cazalla: いいえでも日本語はなしま 771525;1406422154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00294999 = 0.59 BTC [-] {2} 771526;1406422212;cazalla;kuzetsa, i didn't think you'd be one to engage in cultural appropriation 771527;1406422372;kuzetsa;what? 771528;1406422457;benkay;generally people who get bent out of shape about gender and naming and shaming and what-has-one don't do the cultural appropriation thing, because "imperialism". 771529;1406422475;kuzetsa;fuck that shit 771530;1406422497;mircea_popescu;lol wait, people can't speak foreign languages now ? 771531;1406422499;kuzetsa;I don't subscribe to any particular rules of conduct 771532;1406422507;mircea_popescu;in bitcoin-assets ?! when did this happen 771533;1406422525;benkay;ASSPLAIN YOURSELF, CAZALLA 771534;1406422547;benkay;the torches and pitchforks approach 771535;1406422552;kuzetsa;yes 771536;1406422568;cazalla;kuzetsa, why browse and purchase items from jlist when you're not japanese, that's cultural appropriation and typical of you tumblr types 771537;1406422584;cazalla;ah, benkay already explained 771538;1406422599;kuzetsa;heh 771539;1406422601;mircea_popescu;lmao cultural appropriation get out 771540;1406422614;cazalla;it's a thing mircea_popescu 771541;1406422617;kuzetsa;yeah sure, jlist is the devil or something 771542;1406422622;mircea_popescu;on chinese keyboards ? 771543;1406422650;mircea_popescu;pity kakobrekla isn't here to tell them darned japs to stop wearing ties. SOMALIAN INVENTION. 771544;1406422653;cazalla;nfi, i didn't come up with or adhere to it 771545;1406422675;kuzetsa;cazalla: you're accusing someone of unethical non-boycotting of a presumably "bad / unethical" business when that same person also uses cex.io GHS despite the potential harms of centralization 771546;1406422713;cazalla;kuzetsa, that'd cause more harm to your wallet, wouldn't it? 771547;1406422721;DreadKnight;that Hannah Minx chick is all about cultural appropriation xD 771548;1406422728;kuzetsa;I'm lawful evil in most things, so the concept of boycotting a business whose practices aren't illegal or against my own personal practices would just be pointless. 771549;1406422797;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv0y01P3bR1qflmf0o1_500.jpg <<< cuntural asspropriation. 771550;1406422825;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: yeah, I've done the furniture thing (let's leave it to the imagination who was the furiture for who) 771551;1406422832;DreadKnight;first thing when I open my tumblr https://38.media.tumblr.com/401cda39387180f0af00831221ec654c/tumblr_n8yf0jCBYy1qg7sdjo1_500.jpg 771552;1406422840;mircea_popescu;well inasmuch as i don't know you, what diff does it make :p 771553;1406422861;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: mine is ... not that 771554;1406422913;kuzetsa;this is the most recent dashboard post for one of my more NSFW tumblr accounts ---> https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ac19bdd7652e3e26d497eb4cc5842c3/tumblr_n6uc3hzm3s1rbmzr2o1_500.jpg 771555;1406422943;kuzetsa;(I was not trolling, I really am honestly following http://diversexity.tumblr.com/ on that account) 771556;1406422944;assbot;Diversexity 771557;1406423100;benkay;"relax clara those who think that gender determines intellectual performance can't really have a good logical thinking" 771558;1406423103;benkay;lololol 771559;1406423147;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa not bad, 771560;1406423196;mircea_popescu;benkay you an' me baby are nothin' but mammals so let's get a good logical thinkin' thing goin'... 771561;1406423213;kuzetsa;neat 771562;1406423242;cazalla;kuzetsa, nb but too tubby for me 771563;1406423315;benkay;this is pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSwhRZwFjfY 771564;1406423315;assbot;Typecast (Lorde "Royals" Parody) - YouTube 771565;1406423471;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/727/block-315k-mined-on-or-before-july-28th/ << check out how close this ended up 771566;1406423471;assbot;BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closed 1 week 5 days ago 771567;1406423482;mircea_popescu;20 hours to go, 2k blocks away. 771568;1406423621;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/9e1f3191c64d4fc9d9feab51d1484324/tumblr_moxas1emw31qddd4so1_500.jpg teh zoo of teh future! 771569;1406423706;DreadKnight;O_o 771570;1406423720;DreadKnight;wondering what's the story behind that picture 771571;1406423737;benkay;http://diversexity.tumblr.com/image/91934022948 771572;1406423737;assbot;Diversexity : Photo 771573;1406423757;DreadKnight;they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit 771574;1406423765;benkay;also 771575;1406423767;benkay;http://31.media.tumblr.com/8616132a3e56c18c974ab4cbe3b2d513/tumblr_mmcb1gbWsN1qha9two1_500.jpg 771576;1406423816;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: yeah, the knee pad thing is a good safety measure for uhm... science O_O 771577;1406423817;DreadKnight;first one appeals to my sapiosexual side, second one has funny face 771578;1406423844;benkay;;;ud sapiosexual 771579;1406423844;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sapiosexual | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom  ... 771580;1406423851;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, are you into that sort of science as well? :D 771581;1406423874;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: ah, fair enough -- I thought sapiosexual was an ok word for my own preferences until I realized the extra fancy term: "panromantic demisexual" was a much more accurate thing in my case (as far as labels go) 771582;1406423896;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: which science? 771583;1406423913;DreadKnight;means attracted by intelligence basically 771584;1406423932;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, I was quoting you :D 771585;1406423934;benkay;so uh for the retards in the room what precisely are your inclinations, kuzetsa ? 771586;1406423952;benkay;panromantic demisexual 771587;1406423959;kuzetsa;benkay: uhhh 771588;1406423971;benkay;demi - not really into sex? 771589;1406423976;kuzetsa;oh 771590;1406423984;benkay;panromantic - lover of all? 771591;1406424002;kuzetsa;as far as romantic relationships are concerned, physicallity is something I neither object to nor expect 771592;1406424011;DreadKnight;nice 771593;1406424019;kuzetsa;or is it spelled physicality? 771594;1406424028;DreadKnight;I get the idea, also googled a bit 771595;1406424069;kuzetsa;benkay: yeah, all -- in the sense of there not being any particular body type or sexual or gender identity I find to be a dealbreaker 771596;1406424077;kuzetsa;"it's all good" 771597;1406424079;DreadKnight;would be great if less people were all about sex; maybe would see less stupid people with lots of kids as well 771598;1406424118;DreadKnight;frigging humanity is a cancer 771599;1406424136;cazalla;DreadKnight, you can always neck yourself 771600;1406424143;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: cancer eh? 771601;1406424148;benkay;kuzetsa: typically people focus more on the kinds of folks they want around rather than the kinds of folks they find objectionable 771602;1406424154;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: isn't the cancer astrological sign the one that looks like a 69? 771603;1406424160;DreadKnight;cazalla, so far I don't have kids, so that basically lowers population by itself if doing the math 771604;1406424177;cazalla;DreadKnight, but if you're so smart, surely makes sense to have kids then 771605;1406424196;benkay;cazalla: that raises an interesting question. why'd you choose to have kids? 771606;1406424216;cazalla;benkay, because i thought i was going to die 771607;1406424222;cazalla;i still am, perhaps just not as soon 771608;1406424228;DreadKnight;cazalla, maybe eventually, but it's not a must, need other things first 771609;1406424279;benkay;what was the timeframe when you made the call? 771610;1406424291;cazalla;benkay, as it turns out, i had pretty bad sinus infection 771611;1406424308;DreadKnight;cazalla, anyway, plenty of kids made and abandoned, it would be smarter to adopt one then make a new one just because imo 771612;1406424310;benkay;instead of what, cancer? 771613;1406424327;benkay;DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state. 771614;1406424329;cazalla;yeah plus list of other shit i googled, doctor didn't really help much 771615;1406424359;cazalla;benkay, obviously wasn't the sole reason but thinking i was going to die sooner than later, seemed like a good idea to have a kid 771616;1406424370;DreadKnight;xD 771617;1406424374;benkay;DreadKnight: this is the kind of advice that ruins people's lives: "go adopt a rescue animal for your first dog! you'll have no idea what it's suffered through or how trainable it is! think of the poor dogs!" 771618;1406424382;benkay;mnope nope nope nope nope 771619;1406424397;benkay;if you've never trained a dog, set both of yourselves up for success. 771620;1406424401;cazalla;DreadKnight, why would you adopt a kid, spend money on it when it's not even yours? 771621;1406424415;benkay;'cause you're a hairshirt ecofreak. 771622;1406424424;cazalla;a million other kids can starve for all i care 771623;1406424426;DreadKnight;benkay, personally I think pets will pretty much disappear in favor of robots soon, but that's just me; anyway, jumping from humans to pets is quite a leap 771624;1406424455;benkay;wat 771625;1406424461;benkay;son you're crazy 771626;1406424487;DreadKnight;cazalla, we're all the same matter and it's not like I don't have physical weaknesses, same applies for my potential mate 771627;1406424490;benkay;do you have a pet, children, or any sort of long term human companion, DreadKnight ? 771628;1406424523;cazalla;DreadKnight, why not just have a friend come over and fuck your wife and raise that baby? i don't see the difference in that and adopting tbh 771629;1406424540;DreadKnight;benkay, said before I don't have children; had a few pets when I was younger; avoiding human companion atm 771630;1406424577;benkay;k you're disqualified from opining on relationships until you address all the above 771631;1406424580;DreadKnight;cazalla, adopting is when you take something already made that most likely has a shitty future; friend coming to fuck your wise is still making something brand new ;) 771632;1406424608;DreadKnight;benkay, your disqualification is invalid to me 771633;1406424650;DreadKnight;it's not like everybody needs to make a kid 771634;1406424668;DreadKnight;just to spread along some genes 771635;1406424700;cazalla;doesn't the urge to fuck come from that though 771636;1406424723;DreadKnight;I said I'm sapiosexual 771637;1406424739;DreadKnight;I'm not all about sex 771638;1406424745;cazalla;people who say that probably have small dicks 771639;1406424750;benkay;lol meaning you disqualify yourself from finding mates because they're stupid so you don't actually have to try to get laid 771640;1406424786;DreadKnight;cazalla, I'm doing really well in that field actually 771641;1406424826;DreadKnight;benkay, I'm not disqualifying myself, I like artsy chicks usually and single ones are pretty rare around 771642;1406424838;cazalla;why are you attracted to smart women DreadKnight? my wife is dumb as rock and that's how i like it 771643;1406424862;DreadKnight;haha 771644;1406424889;DreadKnight;why were you attracted to your wife? good looks? character/charisma? supportive? 771645;1406424890;benkay;cazalla needs to feel superior 771646;1406424896;DreadKnight;seems so 771647;1406424902;cazalla;not i'm just being honest 771648;1406424904;cazalla;no* 771649;1406424948;cazalla;DreadKnight, because she's loving, friendly, well natured, modest, prefers to do her craftwork, lampworking etc in her spare time instead of going out getting drunk 771650;1406424974;cazalla;plus that big ass 771651;1406424980;mircea_popescu; they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit << yeah bursitis is no fun 771652;1406425009;DreadKnight;I'm attracted to smart women because they feel less like robots/animals, in the sense they're not all about sex / shopping / make-up; and if they even have an artistic side, like drawing, then even better :3 771653;1406425021;mircea_popescu; panromantic demisexual << spending a lot of time daydreaming ? 771654;1406425052;mircea_popescu; "it's all good" << traditionally this isn't called anything but "desperate" you know. 771655;1406425112;DreadKnight;cazalla, sounds pretty nice overall; I prefer tities a bit more though 771656;1406425125;mircea_popescu; benkay, because i thought i was going to die << so what, something like "eh fuck the world, im dieing anyway" ? 771657;1406425130;cazalla;DreadKnight, well you should see these ones, full of milk, doubled in size :) 771658;1406425162;DreadKnight;cazalla, the thing is that around here in this city, there's a really nasty stereotype of girls, "pitzipoanca", basically a club barbie doll that's so not my type 771659;1406425168;cazalla;mircea_popescu, well yeah, if i'm honest that was part of it 771660;1406425213;mircea_popescu; son you're crazy <<< wasn't that mocsny fellow derping the same derpage in the 90s ? o, soon sex robots!!1 771661;1406425217;DreadKnight;cazalla, pitzipoanca is usually smoking, has a lot of dresses, make-up, talks all the time on expensive latest iphone, goes clubbing all the time, listens only to music like house or manele (gypsy crap) 771662;1406425243;cazalla;DreadKnight, i don't like that either 771663;1406425249;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight the valley girl is not as romanian as you think. 771664;1406425293;nanotube;fluffypony: the20year's problem was his browser was caching the old encrypted otp. heysteve's is probably same? 771665;1406425314;mircea_popescu;nanotube likely yes. 771666;1406425316;DreadKnight;cazalla, my mayor is a drug addict with classical cars and there are a ton of "posh" clubs around, so I'm not quite in the place I should probably be 771667;1406425333;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah, noticed the pattern in other areas as well 771668;1406425338;mircea_popescu;benkay: DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state. << a well chosen known-bad state works even better. 771669;1406425361;benkay;if you're just learning how to do the thing? 771670;1406425381;mircea_popescu;a, no. 771671;1406425397;mircea_popescu;tbh, you shouldn't be learning by doing. but hey. 771672;1406425437;mircea_popescu;cazalla: people who say that probably have small dicks << zing, srsly. 771673;1406425468;mircea_popescu;artsy chicks are hard to get by now ?! what world is this! 771674;1406425476;benkay;mircea_popescu: seems that training slaves is one of those things you can only learn by doing 771675;1406425487;mircea_popescu;try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. 771676;1406425490;DreadKnight;quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage) 771677;1406425512;benkay; try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. // srsly 771678;1406425519;cazalla;DreadKnight, exception that proves the rule perhaps 771679;1406425524;benkay; quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage) 771680;1406425524;benkay;// but nothing to compare on your own? 771681;1406425532;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, compared to other types, artsy chicks are fewer, so more difficulty in getting one 771682;1406425549;benkay;DreadKnight: that's a geography problem 771683;1406425577;cazalla;DreadKnight, you see artsy as smart, i see it as dumb, we probably like the same women 771684;1406425638;DreadKnight;so a girl who makes 3d characters is dumb, while one that only smokes and drinks is better? xD 771685;1406425652;benkay;til that dumb has nothing to do with intelligence in aus 771686;1406425741;cazalla;DreadKnight, i'm sure i read something before that people who drink excessively are often smart 771687;1406425754;mircea_popescu;;;google bani pentru piariste 771688;1406425755;gribble;Aprilie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Rautati si Mizerii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 771689;1406425776;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2010/bani-pentru-piariste/ >> thjat might amuse you 771690;1406425778;assbot;Bani pentru piariste pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771691;1406425814;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't fuck a woman that doesn't drink. 771692;1406425818;mircea_popescu;smoking... either way really. 771693;1406425822;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: I don't agree to that joke about "desperate", particularly when demisexual persons are considered part of the asexual spectrum, and in my case, I don't particularly have a strong & compelling sex drive a lot of the time 771694;1406425823;asciilifeform;zoo of the future << zoolag. 771695;1406425826;asciilifeform;!s zoolag 771696;1406425827;assbot;3 results for 'zoolag' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=zoolag 771697;1406425851;mircea_popescu;spectrum eh ? 771698;1406425867;benkay;sex drive lol 771699;1406425882;kuzetsa;yes, human asexuality isn't a black & white condition, there are gradiations and different forms it can take (like for instance, demisexual) 771700;1406425884;cazalla;mircea_popescu, i don't think people who refrain from drinking actually fuck, my missus for example 771701;1406425904;benkay;the person who drives the relationship makes sex happen, not the other way around. 771702;1406425927;benkay;ever seen two people who both like to be told what to do in bed lie there hoping the other will make a move? 771703;1406425934;mircea_popescu;^ 771704;1406425934;kuzetsa;benkay: I'm neither exclusively top nor bottom no submisive nor dominant in that regard :) 771705;1406425937;benkay;"did his toe touch mine? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SEX?" 771706;1406425945;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa are you basically trying to not be anything ? 771707;1406425966;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: nah, far from it -- demisexual is a thing 771708;1406425973;mircea_popescu;cazalla half wine enemas work wonders on them. 771709;1406425982;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa only according to you. 771710;1406425983;benkay;WINE ENEMA 771711;1406425993;kuzetsa;;;ud demisexual 771712;1406425993;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=demisexual | Demisexuals are characterized by a lack of sexual attraction toward any person unless they become deeply emotionally or romantically connected with... 771713;1406426009;asciilifeform;sex drive >> http://www.easylife.org/fufme/faq-use.html 771714;1406426009;assbot;FuckU-FuckMe. Changing the feel of communication. 771715;1406426024;mircea_popescu;lol asciilifeform king of pun 771716;1406426032;benkay;pwm? 771717;1406426041;cazalla;kuzetsa, you remind me of this type of person http://i.imgur.com/tAShNZU.jpg 771718;1406426044;asciilifeform;benkay: pulse width modulation ? 771719;1406426067;benkay;:D 771720;1406426099;benkay;drive jokes 771721;1406426110;kuzetsa;cazalla: a lot of those are true about me 771722;1406426119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00079935 = 7.0343 BTC [-] 771723;1406426128;mircea_popescu;lmao not bad imgur. 771724;1406426169;benkay;haha 771725;1406426212;kuzetsa;cazalla: thanks for linking that too, I didn't realize the word "kyriarchy" was even a thing (this word pleases me, it's a good thing to have a word for, and as a thing, kyriarchy sucks all of the badness) 771726;1406426230;mircea_popescu;benkay WINE ENEMA << yes. a regular bottle of white wine should suffice for two girls. mix in about a liter of warm water, use a bag or syringe and finish with jewel buttplug. 771727;1406426236;asciilifeform;'rule by the rulers', lol 771728;1406426250;mircea_popescu;;;ud kyriarchy 771729;1406426250;gribble;http://el.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kyriarchy | τυχαίο A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z # νέο tv. Μόδα. thot · totes magotes · colonel angus · reddit hug · poopsock · tittybong · poopsterbate ... 771730;1406426258;benkay;poopsock? 771731;1406426261;benkay;tittybong? 771732;1406426269;mircea_popescu;o hey! 771733;1406426286;*;mircea_popescu decides to be MP, Supreme Bitcoin Kyriarch henceforth. 771734;1406426287;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: this is more better than... whatever the fuck that particult urban dictioary gibberish was (and unlike urban dictionary, has actual citations) ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy 771735;1406426287;assbot;Kyriarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 771736;1406426296;*;asciilifeform owns 'kyristor.com' 771737;1406426296;cazalla;benkay you've never had a poopsock? clearly you've never played an mmorpg then 771738;1406426316;benkay;i did eve for a while 771739;1406426317;asciilifeform;(think 'resistor' or 'capacitor') 771740;1406426318;mircea_popescu;well not to that degree. 771741;1406426341;benkay;but no, that sort of shit's far less entertaining than...anything else. 771742;1406426362;mircea_popescu;"Kyriarchy ("rule by a lord") is a social system or set of connecting social systems built around domination, oppression, and submission. " << yeah. basically, they now have a word to describe how the world both is and is supposed to be. 771743;1406426375;*;kuzetsa narrows eyes 771744;1406426377;mircea_popescu;well done femiderps :D 771745;1406426396;kuzetsa;libertarians piss me the fuck off too, actually -_- 771746;1406426409;benkay;they've come full circle to making sense i guess 771747;1406426410;kuzetsa;well they do and they don't 771748;1406426414;mircea_popescu;whai ? they just protest teh kyriarchy 771749;1406426417;kuzetsa;right libertarianism, specifically 771750;1406426447;asciilifeform;just wait till we plug the kyristors in. 771751;1406426473;kuzetsa;... considering that left libertarianism isn't particularly incompatible with democratic socialism 771752;1406426502;mircea_popescu;"democratic socialism" is incompatible with reality. 771753;1406426507;DreadKnight;that imgur is what I had in mind as well overall 771754;1406426532;cazalla;or a really subtle troll 771755;1406426538;DreadKnight;:D 771756;1406426542;mircea_popescu;"FuckU-FuckMe is the most powerful, pleasurable, inexpensive, and only dual-party Internet remote intercourse tool on the market today." << this should be on an ipo 771757;1406426551;mircea_popescu;anyone here care to recycle that website into a tardstalk ipo ? 771758;1406426560;asciilifeform;lol! 771759;1406426566;cazalla;i guess the best trolls are the ones that you're not sure of 771760;1406426607;DreadKnight;agree 771761;1406426714;DreadKnight;it's a form or art :D 771762;1406426718;DreadKnight;of* 771763;1406426722;mircea_popescu;anyway, does kuzetsa get the crown for the first libertard to have tried b-a or does truffles actually get that one ? 771764;1406426742;kuzetsa;what's a b-a? 771765;1406426745;mircea_popescu;this place. 771766;1406426748;kuzetsa;oh 771767;1406426761;kuzetsa;ok, then what's a libertard? 771768;1406426769;DreadKnight;bacon 771769;1406426786;mircea_popescu;someone who mistakenly believes that human life can have meaning outside of an opressive structure. 771770;1406426790;kuzetsa;specifically, is it a pejorative term (I assume) aimed at a particular political affiliation? 771771;1406426808;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: oh, no, I don't think humans are AT ALL MEANINGFUL IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EVER 771772;1406426819;mircea_popescu;generally, people who identify as liberals, progressives, social-something or the other etc. 771773;1406426826;kuzetsa;the universe would still exist if humanity was wiped out 771774;1406426833;mircea_popescu;that has nothing to do. 771775;1406426836;kuzetsa;this planet is nothing special either 771776;1406426850;mircea_popescu;this isn't an ontological discussion. 771777;1406426854;DreadKnight;xD 771778;1406426864;DreadKnight;it's political 771779;1406426871;mircea_popescu;quite. 771780;1406426881;kuzetsa;huh 771781;1406426914;mircea_popescu;basically, anyone who's to the left of, being in favour of the release of serbs in medieval germany/russia could count as a libertard, depending how the conversation turns. 771782;1406426924;kuzetsa;so to clarify, are you referring to things vaguely on the side of "social left" = libertard? 771783;1406426925;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, do you think that the opinion of all people matter? (something to step in the right direction) 771784;1406426945;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter 771785;1406426946;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa and most of contemporary "right". 771786;1406426971;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, but why? 771787;1406426974;mircea_popescu; DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter << isn't that opressive ?! 771788;1406426974;kuzetsa;people don't matter, and their opinions tend to be at least twice as stupid 771789;1406427000;DreadKnight;why? :P 771790;1406427026;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: as mircea_popescu said, this isn't an ontological discussion (and then you chimed in to qualify: it's political) 771791;1406427142;DreadKnight;you were almost talking about aliens 771792;1406427171;DreadKnight;mircea brought you back to earth 771793;1406427183;kuzetsa;nah, more along the lines of the heat death of the universe (at which point, politics are no longer relevant) 771794;1406427195;mircea_popescu;of course they are. 771795;1406427200;mircea_popescu;what isn't relevant is said death. 771796;1406427226;kuzetsa;heat death of the universe resets everything to a state of entropy, including politics 771797;1406427241;asciilifeform;http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on. 771798;1406427242;assbot;kyristor 771799;1406427243;mircea_popescu;one of the telling symptoms of the libertard is that he'll replace his person as is with some sort of ilimited derivative of god, and pretend to concern himself with "the termic death of the universe". 771800;1406427245;DreadKnight;universe will likely reset itself, all supposedly immortal beings within it's bounds will get poked as well with it 771801;1406427257;mircea_popescu;this is not a consideration open to you, the demiamorous pansexual w/e the hell. 771802;1406427285;*;kuzetsa shrugs 771803;1406427301;kuzetsa;aliens wouldn't be as tedious as human-type people are... socializing is hard :( 771804;1406427317;DreadKnight;do you know any aliens? 771805;1406427319;kuzetsa;(this is that "social idiot" thing I mentioned) 771806;1406427324;mircea_popescu;right, the dollies wouldn't be as hard as the classmates, if the dollies were classmates. 771807;1406427327;mircea_popescu;except, they are not. 771808;1406427338;mircea_popescu;this oppressive point of reality must be digested. 771809;1406427353;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: none, no, they just seem plausibly less tedious (though not neccessarily friendly to be around) than figuring out how people work 771810;1406427397;DreadKnight;Kushed, just because they're from a different place doesn't mean they're not affected by polarity / gravity and yin&yang as well 771811;1406427412;mircea_popescu;poor Kushed 771812;1406427418;DreadKnight;right 771813;1406427420;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, ^ 771814;1406427477;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: my premise in thinking it would plausibly be less tedious isn't that they would be "better" but that it would be less "same old shit" 771815;1406427495;DreadKnight;anyway, you're kinda dodging the libertard subject thingy, so moving on I guess... 771816;1406427508;kuzetsa;I don't know what libertard means, so yeah 771817;1406427512;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, same colors in their world as well, unless they get to see more of them or maybe less 771818;1406427538;DreadKnight;or none 771819;1406427555;DreadKnight;seen a nice asian movie about humanity going blind 771820;1406427577;DreadKnight;thanks to some virus 771821;1406427581;kuzetsa;neat 771822;1406427584;mircea_popescu;i guess this one must be for cazalla http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnasqguj3m1qlne6uo1_500.jpg 771823;1406427587;asciilifeform;asimov's 'nightfall.' 'children of men.' snore. 771824;1406427610;cazalla;mircea_popescu, still too skinny 771825;1406427622;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, nice to see contrast like that 771826;1406427644;mircea_popescu;twist : stephen king is actually going blind, and borges too 771827;1406427668;asciilifeform;borges is dead 771828;1406427676;cazalla;i don't see the appeal in the chains plus that residue you get on your hands from shit like that would annoy me 771829;1406427680;asciilifeform;unless you're thinking of one other than jorge luis 771830;1406427689;mircea_popescu;well, were. 771831;1406427736;mircea_popescu;cazalla the appeal was supposed to be the secret life of the teenager. 771832;1406427744;DreadKnight;+ 771833;1406427756;DreadKnight;it wasn't about the chain 771834;1406427787;DreadKnight;though it shows some kinkiness :3 771835;1406427805;cazalla;are you trying to chris hanson me or something 771836;1406427824;mthreat;more coverage for sexy saffron, http://www.dailydot.com/business/pornstar-loves-bitcoin/ 771837;1406427825;assbot;Porn star explains why she loves Bitcoin while stripping 771838;1406427849;cazalla;more PR than Indiancandy could pay for 771839;1406427859;decimation;ascii have you read Hal Clement's Mission of Gravity 771840;1406427867;asciilifeform;negative 771841;1406427899;mircea_popescu;mthreat cool. cazalla yes :D 771842;1406427900;DreadKnight;mthreat, she's actually from around :) 771843;1406427910;DreadKnight;yeah 771844;1406427911;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight from around where ?! 771845;1406427914;DreadKnight;channel 771846;1406427924;mircea_popescu;ah, the history we don't know :D 771847;1406427938;DreadKnight;heard a bit 771848;1406427956;decimation;What about Niven's "A World Out of Time" 771849;1406427984;decimation;1970's prisonier who was cryo-frozen, then unfrozen in the future and sent on a mission to the center of galaxy 771850;1406428009;*;asciilifeform thinks niven is a hack 771851;1406428025;DreadKnight;decimation, ever seen Idiocracy movie? 771852;1406428037;decimation;yeah I've seen it 771853;1406428055;decimation;I started ringworld, I thought it was boring, didn't get the hype 771854;1406428132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00079813 = 25.181 BTC [-] {2} 771855;1406428183;decimation;2001: a space odyssey was one of my favorite movies as a kid, but I was disappointed by the book honestly 771856;1406428200;decimation;kubrik > clarke 771857;1406428240;kuzetsa;whatever, I don't care if I'm a libertard or not -- figuring out what labels even are for is too much like work 771858;1406428271;asciilifeform;labels aren't arbitrarily tacked on - they're lived. 771859;1406428274;kuzetsa;cazalla: sorry about earlier throwing a fit about the "I'd hit it" or whatever and trashy something or other (no clue what you even said, it wasn't that bad though) 771860;1406428288;decimation;you might not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in you... 771861;1406428302;mircea_popescu;decimation lol 771862;1406428328;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa you are, yeah, but the prediction attendant would be that you'd never make it here, and yet it's not coming true. 771863;1406428335;mircea_popescu;obviously social sciences aren't real sciences. 771864;1406428353;mthreat;isn't economics a social science? 771865;1406428359;mircea_popescu;indeed. 771866;1406428417;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: mostly I'm just already jaded and given up on any sort of quota for how much offensive shit I'm going to be bothered by at any given time... it sometimes takes a bit of effort to "give up and just go with it" 771867;1406428420;decimation;until someone has developed a deterministic model of the human mind, I don't think social sciences can do any thing more than tell stories 771868;1406428469;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa another victory for the kyriarchy. 771869;1406428475;kuzetsa;lulz 771870;1406428485;kuzetsa;apparently, sure 771871;1406428496;kuzetsa;I secretly got my libertard stink all over it though 771872;1406428504;kuzetsa;not even very stealthy, I think some people noticed me doing it :/ 771873;1406428525;mircea_popescu;kyriarchy does not care what you're thinking while taking its unsolicited fat cock, as long as you moan appropriately. 771874;1406428552;mircea_popescu;kinda what makes it better than oppresive regimes a la usg in the first place. 771875;1406428600;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/12VNCE3.txt ) 771876;1406428600;asciilifeform;!b 2 771877;1406428605;kuzetsa;perhaps 771878;1406428614;kuzetsa;my problem is not knowing what's appropriate 771879;1406428679;kuzetsa;I'm far more likely to speak up when I don't understand what's going on or why than I am to "moan" (appropriately or otherwise) 771880;1406428689;decimation;" From the system's perspective, not only did it still get blown, it liked it even more. In this analogy, the system is the system and you're not." 771881;1406428710;kuzetsa;oh, that 771882;1406428732;kuzetsa;decimation: in that case, moirallegiance comes to mind 771883;1406428738;decimation;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/product_review_panasonic_pt_ax.html 771884;1406428739;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Product Review: Panasonic PT AX200U (Hipsters On Food Stamps Part 3) 771885;1406428748;cazalla;kuzetsa, that's ok, nothing offends me 771886;1406428748;kuzetsa;I enjoy debate, particularly when it turns into moirallegiance 771887;1406428775;kuzetsa;;;ud moirallegiance 771888;1406428776;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moirail | Jul 6, 2011 ... Your soul mate in a non-romantic sense. You cannot live without this person; they complete you. They balance you. You would be lost forever ... 771889;1406428790;kuzetsa;crap 771890;1406428794;kuzetsa;wrong word 771891;1406428796;kuzetsa;I suck at fandom 771892;1406428806;kuzetsa;;;ud kismesis 771893;1406428807;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kismesis | A Kismesis is the term used to describe deep, deep hatred for someone. This is the person that you could, and will likely, hate for all your life, ... 771894;1406428819;kuzetsa;^ so hot <3 771895;1406428881;DreadKnight;are you into stocks, kuzetsa ? 771896;1406428900;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: I'm more into TA and automating trades than the stocks themselves 771897;1406428962;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, well, at least they're in the same book; what are you plotting? 771898;1406428977;kuzetsa;speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API 771899;1406428984;asciilifeform;'If you want a partial understanding of why 19-21 Saudi/Egyptian terrorists could live in America and enjoy our strip clubs but still want to crumble our architecture, there you go.' 771900;1406428986;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19074 @ 0.00079799 = 15.2209 BTC [-] {2} 771901;1406428997;Duffer1;any of the others? 771902;1406429060;kuzetsa;odd, is http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php not the right address anymore? 771903;1406429062;assbot;Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771904;1406429075;DreadKnight;mpex.ws 771905;1406429089;kuzetsa;ah, thanks -- https://twitter.com/mpex1 lies 771906;1406429090;assbot;MPEx (MPEx1) auf Twitter 771907;1406429102;decimation;ascii I've been that engineer at the party, and I totally get his point 771908;1406429120;asciilifeform;decimation: but you aren't there now. 771909;1406429120;kuzetsa;(that twitter still shows http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php as being the relevant site) 771910;1406429121;assbot;Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771911;1406429148;decimation;true. one must realize that having a great respect for facts does not exclude good ol' human fun 771912;1406429165;kuzetsa;hmm, is there no REST APIs on mpex? 771913;1406429178;benkay; i guess this one must be for cazalla http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnasqguj3m1qlne6uo1_500.jpg // nommm 771914;1406429194;benkay;kuzetsa: don't you start with what MPEx is missing. it's PERFECT - PERFECT I TELL YOU 771915;1406429198;decimation;famously the hijackers were staying at a motel in Laurel within sight of the NSA director's office 771916;1406429244;decimation;kuzetsa, I think you will find that the folks on this channel revile using HTTP for serving up anything other than static pages 771917;1406429257;kuzetsa;benkay: well my bot only works with REST APIs (json or otherwise) so ... I kinda need APIs to use it sanely --- https://github.com/kuzetsa/gekko/releases 771918;1406429258;assbot;Releases kuzetsa/gekko GitHub 771919;1406429302;kuzetsa;decimation: also, HTTP is not the only way of doing REST APIs 771920;1406429412;kuzetsa;anyway, later everyone -- was nice actually talking today (as opposed to mostly idling) --- I'll bbl or something (though probably not tonight) 771921;1406429519;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, cute that you have a github account :D 771922;1406429532;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, bye for now 771923;1406429535;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8184 @ 0.00079778 = 6.529 BTC [-] {2} 771924;1406430200;mircea_popescu; my problem is not knowing what's appropriate << generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate. 771925;1406430346;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa> speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API << ahhh all the history one does not know :D 771926;1406430394;mircea_popescu; (that twitter still shows http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php as being the relevant site) << twitter is clueless 771927;1406430396;assbot;Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 771928;1406430696;benkay;oh and a side note mpex.co is hardcoded into asset descs mircea_popescu 771929;1406430724;mircea_popescu;it's coming back dun sweat it. 771930;1406430912;*;kuzetsa facepalms 771931;1406430943;kuzetsa;I see, I see... now that I have nick highlighting set up on my client it actually highlights me and makes a flashing screen notification when people mention my nick 771932;1406431003;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: thanks though, I never would've noticed that (delayed) reply if you hadn't included my nick in the message. 771933;1406431029;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, hah, I like that bani-pentru-piariste article; If it was up to me I would have skipped college, but parents... *sigh* 771934;1406431059;kuzetsa;offensive is appropriate though... hmm 771935;1406431145;DreadKnight;I used to have a buddy who's an informatics teacher at a highschool; when I talked in english he usually found that rather offensive and snobbish 771936;1406431171;DreadKnight;basically he didn't knew english well enough but was afraid to admit it 771937;1406431217;decimation;what's 'informatics'? computer programming? 771938;1406431218;DreadKnight;I find it sad when I see people who want to make money from IT but they just don't focus on properly learning english first 771939;1406431227;kuzetsa;as per quote (generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate) ---> http://picpaste.com/pics/128231838279.1406431149.jpg 771940;1406431250;kuzetsa;just FYI, warning, that pic is likely meant as an attempt at offending straight men 771941;1406431254;DreadKnight;decimation, computer science; basically talking about components and crap; most of the time leaving students to spend time on the internet as they wish while he's getting paid anyway 771942;1406431302;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: come to think of it, I think it was actually you who originally posted that in a bitcoin channel a couple years ago 771943;1406431306;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, we need a new plague 771944;1406431316;decimation;yeah it seems english has become the lingua franca of that kind of work 771945;1406431318;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: plague? 771946;1406431362;kuzetsa;who needs a plague... the creatures of earth? how big a plague? global pandemic? regional outbreak? 771947;1406431376;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa you have any idea how old school that is ? 771948;1406431387;mircea_popescu;exactly. 771949;1406431404;kuzetsa;I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something 771950;1406431405;DreadKnight;decimation, ex-gf bugged me a lot to teach her web design / coding so that she can make a lot of money easily; she fails at english and she's not passionate or smart enough; and people around said I'm against finding a companion and rather set high standards xD 771951;1406431423;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: how old school "that" is ... which "that" are you referring to? 771952;1406431498;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, "we need a new plague" is from "The office" show, it's basically a meme now, google it 771953;1406431515;kuzetsa;oh 771954;1406431524;kuzetsa;I've seen the office (both the UK and american variant) 771955;1406431541;DreadKnight;tried to watch UK one as well, simply stopped. 771956;1406431560;DreadKnight;don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again 771957;1406431599;DreadKnight;and not always very fond of british accent and words 771958;1406431672;kuzetsa;ah found it --- http://youtu.be/pSat_gLDXPc (it's apparently called "plague, inc.") 771959;1406431673;assbot;Plague Inc: Evolved Official Launch Trailer - YouTube 771960;1406431715;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, did you went to college yourself? it's a bit of a trend now apparently for people in IT set on becoming rich 771961;1406431735;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, meant google image search 771962;1406431751;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, guess it's the movie you mentioned 771963;1406431787;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: movie? 771964;1406431793;kuzetsa;what movie? 771965;1406431807;kuzetsa;[23:23:25] <+kuzetsa> I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something 771966;1406431839;kuzetsa;"plague inc." is a game, not a movie 771967;1406431851;DreadKnight;yeah yeah 771968;1406431905;DreadKnight;seems interesting 771969;1406431930;kuzetsa;that's a trailer for the PC / console version, it was originally a smartphone/tablet app 771970;1406431948;DreadKnight;most smartphone/tablet games are jokes 771971;1406432002;kuzetsa;I got a lot of fun out of fruit ninja and angry birds before I was sick of them 771972;1406432006;DreadKnight;free-to-play applied horribly mostly, other times people trying to make a quick buck with minimum amount of work 771973;1406432707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.0008023 = 15.685 BTC [+] {3} 771974;1406433474;benkay; don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again // ahaha wait wasn't the UK one first? 771975;1406433775;cazalla;kuzetsa, you're going to have to try much harder, that image is ofn and very tame. Choosing which one you would fuck if you had to is still a tough decision though 771976;1406433837;cazalla;fwiw, i'd fuck B, can look past the cock, can't the physique of the left 771977;1406433961;DreadKnight;benkay, yes, was afraid it might have been the case; 771978;1406433988;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, which the office you liked more? 771979;1406433994;DreadKnight;benkay, seen them both? 771980;1406434013;benkay;hell no that's not comedy. 771981;1406434056;DreadKnight;benkay, anyway, "copy cat" as in trying to fill the same shoes, so doesn't matter what order, if you see something else trying to be the same thing, it just feels wrong 771982;1406434072;DreadKnight;uncanny valley effect, like in games 771983;1406434243;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: It was so long ago I can barely remember either 771984;1406434253;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: though I think I like the non-UK office better 771985;1406434292;kuzetsa;trying to decide if I want to analyze the behavior of Win32/Bropia.G.worm in a sandbox or just nuke it and let someone else do the forensics tonight :( 771986;1406434304;kuzetsa;I mean... err... I'm retired, I never do anything O_O 771987;1406434319;DreadKnight;nuke it 771988;1406434324;DreadKnight;it's a worm 771989;1406434338;DreadKnight;= virus of some sort 771990;1406434346;kuzetsa;well yeah, but occasionally they're fun to watch 771991;1406434370;DreadKnight;go for it if that's your late saturday night type of fun 771992;1406434425;DreadKnight;hah, just found this https://btcjam.com 771993;1406434426;assbot;Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - BTCJam 771994;1406434476;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00079981 = 7.7582 BTC [-] 771995;1406434674;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: yeaaaaah... nuking this worm is too much like work, I shouldn't have been so bold and reckless to begin with, so it's my own damn fault :( 771996;1406434701;kuzetsa;wiping the sandbox and doing a rollback to a clean snapshot was quicker *sigh* 771997;1406434762;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, why are you still on windows? xD 771998;1406434783;DreadKnight;heh, I recall you said a few times you're old 771999;1406434822;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: nVidia optimus on my craptop doesn't get full functionality on non-windows OS, sadly. 772000;1406434863;DreadKnight;afaik that does well on linux now, oh well 772001;1406435086;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00079981 = 21.8748 BTC [-] 772002;1406435092;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: really? including the ability for the drivers to power down the geforce 540GT mobile when it's not needed? (to save power) 772003;1406435213;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: any clue if it's nouveau, bumblebee, or some other driver solution? (the one which "does well"... also, which distro(s) have you tested it with?) 772004;1406435221;DreadKnight;http://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04 772005;1406435222;assbot;How to set up nVidia Optimus/Bumblebee in 14.04 - Ask Ubuntu 772006;1406435228;kuzetsa;oh, ubuntu? uhg :( 772007;1406435239;DreadKnight;and flavors 772008;1406435265;DreadKnight;it's not mandatory to use unity DE, you have plenty of options that work better for lower end devices 772009;1406435280;DreadKnight;ubuntu is just a foundation, you can customize your OS as you wish 772010;1406435306;DreadKnight;there's driver for nouveau as well afaik 772011;1406435330;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00079981 = 19.9553 BTC [-] 772012;1406435336;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: or I could just build my own bumblebee from source (with or without the gentoo ebuild to guide things into a sane, usable state) --> http://gpo.zugaina.org/x11-misc/bumblebee 772013;1406435336;assbot;Gentoo Portage Overlays - x11-misc/bumblebee 772014;1406435407;DreadKnight;building from source and gentoo are for nerds; funny to hear that stuff since you're using windoze atm 772015;1406435423;*;kuzetsa shrugs 772016;1406435468;DreadKnight;:) 772017;1406435499;DreadKnight;it's ok to be a nerd, I'm one too, that tries to avoid compiling though 772018;1406435552;kuzetsa;applying stereotypical assumptions and substituting loose correlations in place of logic 772019;1406435581;kuzetsa;I often am guilty of that when I talk smack about ubuntu or the userbase 772020;1406435709;kuzetsa;kinda like what you just did with "you're using windows" argument, but not as cool 772021;1406435732;DreadKnight;well, you're toying around with worms 772022;1406435741;kuzetsa;nah 772023;1406435750;DreadKnight;I often hear windows users complaining about antiviruses, viruses and a lot of other stuff 772024;1406435756;DreadKnight;like every day 772025;1406435757;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00080221 = 8.1023 BTC [+] 772026;1406435775;DreadKnight;I'm like "switch damn it and stop complaining already" in my mind 772027;1406435786;DreadKnight;gave up on windows a long time ago because of that kind of crap 772028;1406435802;benkay;bitcoin's going to fix that for them 772029;1406435815;kuzetsa;benkay: hmm? what is bitcoin going to fix? 772030;1406435820;DreadKnight;+ 772031;1406435832;DreadKnight;switching to linux? xD 772032;1406435841;kuzetsa;no clue what you mean by "switching" 772033;1406435846;DreadKnight;same 772034;1406435854;benkay;people using windows. 772035;1406435885;DreadKnight;how? :P 772036;1406435886;thestringpuller;i use windows 772037;1406435888;kuzetsa;I use 3 or more OS per day most days, and rarely less than 2 (and one of them is always my linux box sitting at the local datacenter) 772038;1406435892;thestringpuller;and bitcoin on windows 772039;1406435896;thestringpuller;Stop hating benkay 772040;1406435901;thestringpuller;You're os'ist 772041;1406435911;DreadKnight;I'm not sure what bitcoin has to do with the OS 772042;1406435924;DreadKnight;though I'm not very fond of windows 772043;1406435944;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: I am, windows has a good reputation for being more solid for gaming than linux or mac 772044;1406435955;thestringpuller;wow 772045;1406435976;kuzetsa;other than that it's a very small (and constantly shrinking) list of apps which are native windows ones and happen to be part of some workflow or other 772046;1406435976;thestringpuller;"Bill Gates pushed for DirectX in the 90's now everyone writes for windows when on PC thus windows is better" argument 772047;1406435991;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, lmao; plenty of linux games, plus linux can also run windows games; that reputation is total FUD, it's based on people believing that and keeping at it 772048;1406436008;DreadKnight;thestringpuller, ikr 772049;1406436011;kuzetsa;thestringpuller: driver support too, not just the directx API / abstraction layer 772050;1406436023;thestringpuller;DreadKnight: it's damn near impossible to run some games on Linux that were for windows. 772051;1406436036;thestringpuller;that's why Steam OS won't drop until 2015 most likely. 772052;1406436047;DreadKnight;it's like buying games for nintendo console and wanting to play them on your ps3. 772053;1406436053;thestringpuller;Yea. 772054;1406436064;kuzetsa;thestringpuller: also, Steam OS is probably not going to support anonymous, random hardware as well as windows 772055;1406436069;benkay;DreadKnight: bitcoins will vanish mysteriously from all windows boxes. 772056;1406436093;DreadKnight;benkay, oh, I sure hope so and it sounds pretty likely to happen 772057;1406436098;thestringpuller;benkay: that's why you gotta use better TX scripts :P 772058;1406436109;thestringpuller;i encrypt all my paper wallets with triple GPG 772059;1406436111;benkay;quit trollin, thestringpuller 772060;1406436116;DreadKnight;thestringpuller, tell that to the average joe 772061;1406436117;benkay;you run gpg on windows 772062;1406436122;*;benkay throws his hands up 772063;1406436125;benkay;it's futile, i tell ya. 772064;1406436139;thestringpuller;When someone logs in as me on this channel 772065;1406436141;DreadKnight;how to I list gpg key id's btw? using shell/terminal 772066;1406436143;thestringpuller;and uses my gpg key to identify 772067;1406436149;thestringpuller;then I will call it futile!!! 772068;1406436165;benkay;you don't wait for your house to catch fire to admit that you built it out of paper and paper burns 772069;1406436172;benkay;you don't build a fucking house out of paper in the first place 772070;1406436176;DreadKnight;bacon 772071;1406436179;thestringpuller;exactly 772072;1406436181;kuzetsa;bacon is good encryption 772073;1406436191;thestringpuller;benkay just hates on OS'es 772074;1406436199;kuzetsa;I think I need to go encrypt a sandwich, brb 772075;1406436200;benkay;citation required 772076;1406436209;thestringpuller;I'm going to make a Windows tile for Bitcoin. 772077;1406436219;DreadKnight;he should, windows sux and all that it's good about it is related to Bill Gates stealing and getting ahead 772078;1406436222;benkay;i'm going to make a stab-you-through-the-internet for everything 772079;1406436245;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.01170001 = 0.585 BTC [+] 772080;1406436258;DreadKnight;anyway, no point in having an OS war 772081;1406436275;DreadKnight;enjoy your windows but stop complaining of constant buthurt 772082;1406436306;thestringpuller;LOL. I use all OS'es 772083;1406436310;thestringpuller;like colbert I am color blind 772084;1406436317;thestringpuller;i just pretend everyone is white and it's all good. 772085;1406436331;DreadKnight;bringing games as an argument is like you're deliberately trying to play the same few games that just aren't made with other operating systems in mind 772086;1406436438;DreadKnight;using linux for about 10 years yet I suffered a lot from being addicted to gaming 772087;1406436455;DreadKnight;and people keep saying "not enough games on linux" 772088;1406436457;thestringpuller;ergo game consoles 772089;1406436466;thestringpuller;PC's are for work 772090;1406436469;DreadKnight;been playing on my linux box 772091;1406436469;thestringpuller;game consoles are for games 772092;1406436480;DreadKnight;got ps3 and I don't even touch it for a long time now 772093;1406436497;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: yeah, mine is collecting dust too 772094;1406436526;thestringpuller;lol 772095;1406436563;DreadKnight;a second hand ps3 is probably 100 bucks now, at least around here 772096;1406436600;DreadKnight;probably with even a few original games as well 772097;1406436636;DreadKnight;not even worth selling my console 772098;1406436660;DreadKnight;ok seriously, how do I list gpg key id? xD 772099;1406436788;DreadKnight;nvm, finally 772100;1406436794;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24586 @ 0.00079775 = 19.6135 BTC [-] {2} 772101;1406436855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5540 @ 0.00079672 = 4.4138 BTC [-] 772102;1406436859;benkay;gpg -K 772103;1406436916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00079853 = 8.9435 BTC [+] 772104;1406436926;DreadKnight;I still don't get what I need 772105;1406436942;thestringpuller;;;ident DreadKnight 772106;1406436942;gribble;Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is identified as user 'DreadKnight', with GPG key id F6A23D326FDF1035, key fingerprint 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035, and bitcoin address None 772107;1406436954;thestringpuller;isn't that your key? 772108;1406436962;DreadKnight;alt tabbed back to website and it proceeded, so dunno wtf 772109;1406437039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00079661 = 13.622 BTC [-] {2} 772110;1406437087;benkay;;;ticker 772111;1406437088;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 595.44, Best ask: 598.85, Bid-ask spread: 3.41000, Last trade: 596.43, 24 hour volume: 3771.32192653, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 602.83, 24 hour vwap: 595.20749223 772112;1406437093;benkay;why is it crashing? 772113;1406437338;thestringpuller;HAHAHAHA 772114;1406437340;thestringpuller;"crashing" 772115;1406437378;DreadKnight;dropped a few dollars 772116;1406437386;DreadKnight;in a few days or so 772117;1406437420;DreadKnight;seems totally normal 772118;1406437893;DreadKnight;;;google search APR 772119;1406437894;gribble;APR Executive Search, Inc. - Home Page: ; APR Executive Search, Inc. - Jobs: ; APR Executive Search, Inc. - About Us: 772120;1406438380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.16966666 = 1.018 BTC [-] {2} 772121;1406438685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.15999999 = 1.6 BTC [-] 772122;1406438687;DreadKnight;great, just got banned in #bitcoin for sharing a link :\ 772123;1406438694;benkay;what link? 772124;1406438709;DreadKnight; found a really nice website related to bitcoins, it's about investing or making btc loans, really cool and useful https://btcjam.com/?r=ffa8ab19-de7a-4bdd-83ca-81fcbe9c9a41&utm_source=referral_url&utm_campaign=user_referral 772125;1406438710;assbot;Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - BTCJam 772126;1406438734;DreadKnight;there goes my excitement for sharing an interesting website 772127;1406438871;cazalla;interesting that by banning yoy, you won't learn why it's not an interesting website 772128;1406438883;Namworld;[18:23] <+mircea_popescu> people should be targeted in a dismissive manner. builds character. 772129;1406438907;benkay;DreadKnight: well, you're doing a referral thing 772130;1406438912;benkay;and it's a notorious scam 772131;1406438930;DreadKnight;:D 772132;1406438990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00079654 = 1.2745 BTC [-] 772133;1406439004;Namworld;That, and it's always nice to know what people think. I rarely use any negative language toward anyone, but that's just me. But I'd be the last one to say people shouldn't say this or that to anyone. 772134;1406439086;DreadKnight;benkay, the website itself doesn't seem to be a scam, but yeah, there are scammers on it for sure 772135;1406439114;DreadKnight;btc channel is kinda dead anyway 772136;1406439518;DreadKnight;btcjam basically has the same amount of credibility as any crowd funding website in existence 772137;1406439543;DreadKnight;because it's about the people using the website 772138;1406439687;Namworld;What's wrong with windows? I hardly ever get any issue whatsoever. If it gave me any problem, I'd switch. Runs all I need, plus runs games easily. Not like anything critical is going on on that machine. 772139;1406439860;DreadKnight;Namworld, people constantly complaining about viruses but not switching, that is the problem 772140;1406439884;DreadKnight;so it's more of a user problem 772141;1406439889;DreadKnight;n 772142;1406439935;benkay;DreadKnight: if your platform pushes scams, you're a scammer. 772143;1406439942;benkay;see: glbse 772144;1406439958;DreadKnight;benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform 772145;1406439980;DreadKnight;good and evil are two sides of the same coin, you can't have just one 772146;1406439980;Namworld;If everyone was using Linux, bugs would show up regularly. Although perhaps they'd be fixed more quickly, Linux being open source. 772147;1406440022;DreadKnight;Namworld, things would be better, more devs and patches, more testing; on windows you can't really patch, just complain 772148;1406440087;Namworld;Well slightly better. 772149;1406440149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1699999 = 0.51 BTC [+] 772150;1406440236;punkman;!up phish 772151;1406440238;DreadKnight;lol 772152;1406440262;phish;how can i register for wot? 772153;1406440272;DreadKnight;gpg key 772154;1406440282;phish;instructions? 772155;1406440291;punkman;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation 772156;1406440291;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 772157;1406440294;phish;ty 772158;1406440323;DreadKnight;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication 772159;1406440325;assbot;GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 772160;1406440332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 197 @ 0.003 = 0.591 BTC [+] {2} 772161;1406440413;punkman;megalogs! you guys been busy 772162;1406440447;punkman;neighbor is blasting liturgical music 772163;1406440470;DreadKnight;fun. 772164;1406440473;punkman;I used to hate it but I guess there's worse thing to be woken up by 772165;1406440524;DreadKnight;I got woken by turkish music and manele yesterday, those make liturgical music sound like masterpieces in comparison 772166;1406440698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00079863 = 17.2903 BTC [+] {2} 772167;1406441224;mthreat;!up jordandotdev 772168;1406442323;benkay; benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform // show me a single scam on MPEx. 772169;1406442354;benkay;this bit lending thing actively goes out of its way to promote itself as a safe place to do lending. it goes above and beyond the call of duty to enable scammers. 772170;1406442461;DreadKnight;benkay, was expecting you would say that; MPEx is exception 772171;1406442555;DreadKnight;there are risks in lending, it's a gamble; just like stocks, so that's the whole point 772172;1406442671;DreadKnight;I bought a hdd from an online store, a romanian ebay clone once and I got scammed as it was old and had bad sectors, was it the website's fault? my fault more likely, but there was a reputation system so I should had been more careful, also the used got banned quickly 772173;1406442748;DreadKnight;(I bought the hdd from a 3rd party through the website, from the website owners) 772174;1406443080;benkay;"every" "exception" // get your shit together 772175;1406443110;benkay;do you really not understand why that link with a referral bit would get you banned in #bitcoin? 772176;1406443117;benkay;;;gettrust DreadKnight 772177;1406443117;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Trust relationship from user benkay to user DreadKnight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=DreadKnight | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=DreadKnight | Rated since: Sun Apr 7 16:22:29 2013 772178;1406443134;benkay;you don't *look* like you're new around here. 772179;1406443174;DreadKnight;benkay, they say "NO ADS" in topic, noticed too late; can easily be considered an ad 772180;1406443199;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45421 @ 0.00080236 = 36.444 BTC [+] {4} 772181;1406443259;DreadKnight;benkay, when I said online platforms I meant websites with lots of users that interact with the website; MPEx is not like facebook / fiverr / bitcointalk forum 772182;1406443283;DreadKnight;allows for very limited interaction 772183;1406443391;DreadKnight;plus MPEx has some fees to get into :) which not everybody has around to begin with 772184;1406443439;benkay;yeah, these are generally considered "capital barriers", and improve market quality markedly. 772185;1406443460;DreadKnight;and dealing with serious resellers only instead of average joe is really awesome 772186;1406443474;benkay;you don't borrow 50 grand from some rando online. you go to an actual bank. 772187;1406443565;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00080461 = 5.592 BTC [+] 772188;1406444358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 177 @ 0.00425999 = 0.754 BTC [+] 772189;1406444769;DreadKnight;benkay, are you a stock holder on MPEx? 772190;1406444785;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13736 @ 0.00080355 = 11.0376 BTC [-] 772191;1406445029;benkay;i've made the odd trade yeah 772192;1406445223;DreadKnight;recall it from chat log, still not very familiar with the system 772193;1406445300;benkay;tread carefully 772194;1406445366;benkay;http://bubblear.com/an-interview-with-argentinas-most-reputable-madame/ 772195;1406445368;assbot;An Interview With Argentina’s Most Reputable Madame | bubblear.com 772196;1406445404;DreadKnight;I'm more into getting a listing though and learning the related stuff 772197;1406445484;DreadKnight;argh, bubblebear.com available for 2900$, right... 772198;1406446676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 217 @ 0.00299999 = 0.651 BTC [-] 772199;1406446874;benkay;what's your timeframe on this listing, DreadKnight ? 772200;1406446942;DreadKnight;benkay, need to spend a few more days learning about socks / dividends / shares / listing so I can talk the talk properly and write some documentation as well (which is long time due) 772201;1406447008;benkay;shooting for the end of next week then? 772202;1406447013;DreadKnight;exactly 772203;1406447094;benkay;glhf 772204;1406447124;DreadKnight;:) 772205;1406447130;DreadKnight;yeah, fun 772206;1406447469;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00080461 = 0.6437 BTC [+] 772207;1406447546;benkay;Ran 67 tests containing 157 assertions. 772208;1406447547;benkay;0 failures, 0 errors. 772209;1406447557;benkay;sweet 772210;1406447562;benkay;./deploy.sh 772211;1406447896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 149 @ 0.01170001 = 1.7433 BTC [+] 772212;1406448079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 271 @ 0.003 = 0.813 BTC [+] 772213;1406448136;benkay;we have a kind of people that we call 'niggers'. they aren't black. their uniform is sports clothes and a baseball cap. they introduce themselves by asking "hey friend, got the time?" (seriously, it's almost always like that). if you stop to answer and take your phone out, you've lost. most of the time, you can just say a single "no", or ignore them, and continue walking. this has worked really well for me lately. 772214;1406448154;benkay;the thing about it is that most of them don't want to start a conflict, they just look for weak people 772215;1406448167;benkay;// ahaha the good ol' street hustle 772216;1406448232;benkay;my favorite in NYC was the obviously-too-old-to-be-in-hs-member-of-the-basketball-team "raising money for the team trip to...uh...DC" by selling large candy bars for 20 bucks 772217;1406448249;benkay;let the man have your hand for a handshake, you've "lost" 772218;1406448296;benkay;i always got out of it by smiling wryly, wiggling my eyebrows and complimenting them on their hustle 772219;1406448319;benkay;later i learned to counter with "good hustle, next sucker" 772220;1406448323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1508 @ 0.00300001 = 4.524 BTC [+] {2} 772221;1406448421;DreadKnight;consider them as teachers :D 772222;1406448495;benkay;threats basically 772223;1406448632;dub;"fuck off" works for me 772224;1406448651;dub;while reaching behind you like you have weapon 772225;1406448663;DreadKnight;and pull out a hamster 772226;1406448887;DreadKnight;;;gettrust benkay 772227;1406448888;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user DreadKnight to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=DreadKnight&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 772228;1406449023;DreadKnight;benkay, how much you pay for your hosting? 772229;1406449065;DreadKnight;http://cascadianhacker.com/ Bandwidth Limit Exceeded 772230;1406449184;benkay;that site's actually offline. 772231;1406449192;benkay;good try, though. 772232;1406449310;DreadKnight;heh, time to get some sleep; laters 772233;1406449787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 530 @ 0.003 = 1.59 BTC [-] 772234;1406450519;mircea_popescu;!up SubWolf 772235;1406450521;mircea_popescu;!up yrashk 772236;1406450564;mircea_popescu;!up dxrt 772237;1406450798;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight: 772238;1406450799;mircea_popescu;mircea_popescu, did you went to college yourself? it's a bit of a trend now apparently for people in IT set on becoming rich << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2014#444346 772239;1406450799;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 772240;1406451127;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight: great, just got banned in #bitcoin for sharing a link :\ << because it's neither cool nor useful. 772241;1406451190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00080461 = 12.8335 BTC [+] 772242;1406451422;mircea_popescu;ono benkay's bandnarrows run out! 772243;1406453447;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24345 @ 0.00080438 = 19.5826 BTC [-] 772244;1406454545;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29818 @ 0.00080355 = 23.9603 BTC [-] 772245;1406455414;jurov;http://www.feelguide.com/2013/04/29/75-years-in-th-making-harvard-just-released-its-epic-study-on-what-men-require-to-live-a-happy-life/ 772246;1406455418;assbot;75 Years In The Making: Harvard Just Released Its Epic Study On What Men Need To Live A Happy Life | FEELguide | Film, Music, Design, Science, Style, Psychology, and More 772247;1406455451;jurov;^ not sure if srs 772248;1406456091;jurov;!up Enky 772249;1406457082;chetty;https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8nhAlfIk3QIODdHYl95d1dWNE0/edit?pli=1 772250;1406457083;assbot;heuristics.pdf - Google Drive 772251;1406457112;chetty;II 5. France took Algeria, hoping for a country to eat 772252;1406457112;chetty;cassoulet and instead France is now eating couscous. 772253;1406458998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10938 @ 0.00080267 = 8.7796 BTC [-] 772254;1406459040;fluffypony;dat mpoe dump 772255;1406459608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5162 @ 0.00080267 = 4.1434 BTC [-] 772256;1406460828;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00080206 = 6.3363 BTC [-] 772257;1406461439;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26818 @ 0.00080206 = 21.5096 BTC [-] 772258;1406462902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.1612016 = 2.418 BTC [-] {3} 772259;1406464061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00080206 = 11.7903 BTC [-] 772260;1406464522;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/strange-negotiations/ 772261;1406464732;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00080132 = 2.2036 BTC [-] 772262;1406464793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33150 @ 0.00080091 = 26.5502 BTC [-] {2} 772263;1406465220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41900 @ 0.00079838 = 33.4521 BTC [-] 772264;1406466562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00079819 = 22.8282 BTC [-] {3} 772265;1406467478;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.0007992 = 1.2388 BTC [+] 772266;1406467679;ThickAsThieves;http://wefivekingsblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/here-are-my-official-comments-on-new.html 772267;1406467782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 799 @ 0.00299998 = 2.397 BTC [-] 772268;1406467980;ThickAsThieves;"Mr. Elliott responded; they even met once IRL (in real life), for dinner, where she says now she recognized immediately a “creepy glint” in his eye but nonetheless continued to have a professional relationship with him for a short time because she was hoping for that poster." 772269;1406467994;ThickAsThieves;http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/07/23/christie-blatchford-the-twitter-trial-of-gregory-elliott-is-becoming-much-like-twitter-itself-shrill-and-uber-sensitive/ 772270;1406467995;assbot;Christie Blatchford: The Twitter trial of Gregory Elliott is becoming much like Twitter itself shrill and uber-sensitive | National Post 772271;1406468168;chetty;"it very likely represents an overly broad infringement upon free speech. "// nice if a little understated 772272;1406468271;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0007992 = 9.6304 BTC [+] 772273;1406468539;ThickAsThieves;new product: Creepy Eye Glint Remover 772274;1406468573;ThickAsThieves;For charitable graphic designers everywhere! 772275;1406469002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.0007992 = 18.2218 BTC [+] 772276;1406469185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.00299998 = 0.594 BTC [-] 772277;1406469399;artifexd;chetty: I very much enjoyed that heuristics doc. Thank you. 772278;1406469405;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165153.msg8043930#msg8043930 772279;1406469405;assbot;exchange.bitparking.com 772280;1406469408;kakobrekla;heh. 772281;1406469481;*;kakobrekla noticed doublec on non btc irc chans a few weeks ago. 772282;1406469673;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00079666 = 32.0257 BTC [-] {2} 772283;1406469796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 352 @ 0.00299998 = 1.056 BTC [-] 772284;1406469810;chetty; chetty: I very much enjoyed that heuristics doc. Thank you.// yeah I am reading a little at atime, much food for thought 772285;1406470100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01505 = 0.8579 BTC [-] 772286;1406471110;ThickAsThieves;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/25/goldman-turns-cautious-on-stocks-bonds-over-next-three-months/ 772287;1406471110;assbot;Goldman Turns Cautious on Stocks, Bonds - MoneyBeat - WSJ 772288;1406471117;ThickAsThieves;"The call comes after Goldman’s U.S. equity strategy team last week went from bear to bull on U.S. stocks. " 772289;1406471686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00079654 = 19.6347 BTC [-] 772290;1406472029;FabianB;"jurov:it needs another s.dice" <- isn't s.bbet like it, just not as popular, less dividend but less risk? 772291;1406472497;FabianB;jurov: or by s.dice you mean popular, high risk, high dividend, short lifetime? 772292;1406472580;HeySteve;gribble stale link bug seems resolved 772293;1406473211;thestringpuller;FabianB: BitBet can incur a loss if the house bets go sour. 772294;1406473484;FabianB;short term, yes 772295;1406473519;FabianB;thestringpuller: but a lot less likely owner disappearing 772296;1406473654;thestringpuller;I like the way you think FabianB 772297;1406473683;thestringpuller;Long term the bets will likely always have profit, versus short term which could incur loss. 772298;1406473814;FabianB;but of course that's only good for investors, not so good for brokers i guess (less hektik trading happening) 772299;1406474309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 189 @ 0.00299935 = 0.5669 BTC [+] {2} 772300;1406474370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12067 @ 0.00079983 = 9.6515 BTC [+] 772301;1406475102;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15787 @ 0.00080206 = 12.6621 BTC [+] 772302;1406475163;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23343 @ 0.00079802 = 18.6282 BTC [-] {2} 772303;1406475224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1157 @ 0.00079644 = 0.9215 BTC [-] 772304;1406475575;bitcoinpete;;;later tell ThickAsThieves i went to school with the carbon copy of the singer in the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right, that'll be him in 5-10 years 772305;1406475575;gribble;The operation succeeded. 772306;1406475598;bitcoinpete;p.s. been watching russia television lately ? 772307;1406475773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.16499999 = 2.145 BTC [+] 772308;1406475785;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: start with warriorforum.com, gfy.com and lessee... bodybuilding.com << creative 772309;1406475875;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i propose a new highschool charter. it teaches kids nothing, but smacks them every time they use "going to" << and "get/got" 772310;1406476037;FabianB;$depth x.eur 772311;1406476038;empyex;FabianB: [X.EUR] Bids: 750 @ 0.00221889 500 @ 0.00200000 2000 @ 0.00120000 2000 @ 0.00100000 772312;1406476039;empyex;FabianB: [X.EUR] Asks: 750 @ 0.00222853 772313;1406476046;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: decimation most of humanity lives on less than ten bux a week. << one thing if you have fambly support, another if you're a gweilo, gringo, etc. 772314;1406476075;jurov;FabianB: 10BTC worth of s.dice would easily pay old coinbr monthly fee of 0.19 BTC from dividends 772315;1406476093;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. << and yet taleb survives in nyc just fine 772316;1406476101;jurov;10BTC worth of s.bbet won't pay current monthly fee 772317;1406476157;bitcoinpete;benkay: can't be arsed with scamwatch << leave that to the professionals ;) 772318;1406476229;FabianB;;;ticker --currency eur --last 772319;1406476230;gribble;442.128588 772320;1406476372;FabianB;jurov: doesn't seem to be something out there that attracts masses and is not too risky since jd 772321;1406476810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 651 @ 0.00299998 = 1.953 BTC [+] {2} 772322;1406476811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.68944380 BTC to 12`589 shares, 13420 satoshi per share 772323;1406476871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 15.04184304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1308 satoshi per share 772324;1406477014;jurov;i thought DERPs might be attractive... but it hinges on people putting bitcoins in for indeterminate time, 772325;1406477025;jurov;while there are neither dividends nor MMing to ensure price follows NAV with some liquidity... 772326;1406477145;jurov;it will end up like S.NSA - if someone invested 100BTC he now cannot get out more than 13BTC without major loss 772327;1406477203;FabianB;s.nsa will pay dividends 772328;1406477242;jurov;eventually. and DERP won't do even that. 772329;1406477549;jurov;i can buy d.* or f.derp and then wait for months for positive or negative hype to cause someone to buy my shares at better price 772330;1406477562;jurov;which event may never come 772331;1406477585;jurov;or it will come but market won't react at all, as usual on mpex 772332;1406477614;FabianB;maybe it's more like bitbet bets (the derps) 772333;1406477660;jurov;bitbet has clear closing date 772334;1406477705;FabianB;set your bet and wait until it's resolved 772335;1406477734;jurov;and on bitbet, you can always support either side 772336;1406477735;FabianB;closing yes, but not resolution 772337;1406477770;jurov;here mp explicitly said "bids/asks availability is not guaranteed" 772338;1406477839;FabianB;isn't on bbet either, often bets with 0.1 on yes and 10 btc on no 772339;1406478001;jurov;let's compare http://bitbet.us/bet/778/bitstamp-out-of-business-in-2014/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc and D.BSTP directly 772340;1406478001;assbot;BitBet - Bitstamp out of business in 2014 :: 0.07 B (21%) on Yes, 0.26 B (79%) on No | closing in 4 months 6 days | weight: 46`695 (100`000 to 1) 772341;1406478065;jurov;on bitbet, if i place 10btc on Yes and advertise the bet, there is a chance someone props up the other side 772342;1406478087;jurov;and i can always add something to No side 772343;1406478125;jurov;and the closing date is clear, it is not expected to be any delays there 772344;1406478174;jurov;with D.BSTP/F.DERP, i can buy more than 10BTC 772345;1406478184;jurov;but closing date is unknown 772346;1406478241;jurov;and if situation gets interesting, mp can pull asks, leaving me unable to add something to other side 772347;1406478342;jurov;plus, like the s.nsa example, it may be impossible to get out 772348;1406478351;FabianB;so to use derps you need to be more confident about your bet than on bitbet? 772349;1406478425;jurov;i'm just saying it's much bigger risk than bitbet 772350;1406478473;FabianB;as for s.nsa or s.bbet i agree it's a little odd that it's not traded more actively, and why ppl mostly buy at IPO and not later 772351;1406478563;jurov;imo it's easily understandable - why would anyone buy stocks with completely unclear time horizon? 772352;1406478565;punkman;jurov, but it works if you are a Bitstamp believer 772353;1406478584;jurov;and risk having bitcoins frozen on mpex? 772354;1406478594;jurov;for years? 772355;1406478634;jurov;punkman: find me some bitstamp believers who don't hate mircea 772356;1406478656;punkman;jurov, that is a problem for all the D series, indeed 772357;1406478669;jurov;well, anoher factor 772358;1406478694;thestringpuller;!up Basquiat_ 772359;1406478848;FabianB;jurov: but why buy into s.nsa at IPO then, time horizon was always unknown ? 772360;1406478865;jurov;believers did 772361;1406478880;jurov;others wait till nsa ships 772362;1406478938;thestringpuller;DERPS aren't resistant to volatility. 772363;1406478962;thestringpuller;if BTC market cap grows (in terms of fiat) DERPS stay the same, and the implicity valuation rises. 772364;1406478975;FabianB;another interesting point you say is: you think everyone on mpex is trading on the same side; no-one is on the other, sinc e the other side wouldn't use mpex 772365;1406479088;jurov;i hope not, but... 772366;1406479193;pigeons;no there is a lot of truth to that 772367;1406479241;thestringpuller;hence S.DICE bubble 772368;1406479256;thestringpuller;wasn't the S.DICE buyback lower than the implicit NAV? 772369;1406479288;pigeons;it was for more than it was trading for. 772370;1406479473;pigeons;i dont know how you are determining "implicit NAV" the value was based on dividends paid from earnings from bets, which greatly fluctuated 772371;1406479539;pigeons;the bankroll was not included as an asset for purposes of the share ownership. share ownership only gave you a claim to earnings 772372;1406479548;pigeons;which sometimes were losses 772373;1406479551;punkman;even if you don't get the believers to trade, you get them to pass up 2.5x discount and maybe consider that keeping their BTC might be better than giving them to random derps. 772374;1406479554;pigeons;that you had to make up the next month 772375;1406479652;fluffypony;so maybe the DERPs would have been better suited to have been run on Havelol by an independent intermediary 772376;1406479721;pigeons;i imagine they can still run passthroughs if they choose, like they did with DICE 772377;1406479752;pigeons;so that is a counterpoint, if there was sufficent demand, someone likely would run a passthrough 772378;1406479766;pigeons;they had really fat commissions on the S.DICE passthroughs 772379;1406479956;punkman;I'd expect insiders might be keen to buy DERPs when on the verge of IPO 772380;1406479982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 213 @ 0.0038629 = 0.8228 BTC [-] {4} 772381;1406480076;pigeons;well, the ipo lets them cash out their crap legally, i dont think they would want to jeopardize that, they will make enough of a killing on an ipo 772382;1406480104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 544 @ 0.00290749 = 1.5817 BTC [-] {9} 772383;1406480165;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 570 @ 0.00290234 = 1.6543 BTC [-] {6} 772384;1406480188;jurov;that's the point, i expect f.* to be impossible to liquidate, unless there is a leak or "leak" 772385;1406480227;pigeons;so far that seems accurate 772386;1406480448;Basquiat_;only way to properly value s.dice would be dcf 772387;1406480520;FabianB;$avg 772388;1406480522;empyex;FabianB: 596.96 772389;1406480539;FabianB;$t f.mpif 772390;1406480562;FabianB;$vwap f.mpif 772391;1406480700;FabianB;$t f.mpif 772392;1406480703;empyex;FabianB: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00020681 high: 0.00021513 low: 0.00019 volume: 91618 btc: 18.94754896 30 day: average: 0.00020681 high: 0.00021513 low: 0.00019 volume: 91618 btc: 18.94754896 772393;1406480809;FabianB;since jd isn't a big part of f.mpif anymore pricing got more difficult and trading volume went down 772394;1406480848;BingoBoingo;!mpif 772395;1406480850;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] 772396;1406481149;BingoBoingo; http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/07/23/3463562/arizonas-execution-botched/ << Saw this. Shame the least expensive ingredient is the one people seem to be skipping. 772397;1406481150;assbot;Arizona's Execution Attempt Goes Horribly Wrong As Man Remains Alive Nearly 2 Hours After Injection | ThinkProgress 772398;1406481387;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this was always a puzzle to me - why don't they simply shoot them ? 772399;1406481416;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: TO have the pretense of greater civilization 772400;1406481470;asciilifeform;and if poison is supposed to be 'humane' and this is a thing - there are poisons that knock victim out in seconds 772401;1406481532;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Right, the traditional three drug cocktail is two for comfort and once those set in a metric fuckton of KCl to rapidly induce electrical heart and brain death 772402;1406481547;asciilifeform;what happened to, e.g. cyanide ? 772403;1406481697;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Cynide abandons the pretense of greater civilization by being explicitly a poison. This pretense only holds if it is a medical looking even. Also... cyanide is probably onjectionable to the executioner as it presents a risk to them. 772404;1406481739;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/46k-spent-mining-hardware-final-reckoning/ 772405;1406481739;assbot;$46k Spent on Bitcoin Mining Hardware: The Final Reckoning 772406;1406481809;*;asciilifeform vaguely recalls reading a short story on alt.sex.somethingorother years ago, where in 'the dark future (TM)' the condemned are injected with an alien 'fireworm' that eats them alive for weeks at a time. but everyone is told that they were killed quickly and 'humanely' - and somehow this is supposed to be a greater punishment 772407;1406481897;mircea_popescu;good morning chatty bunch 772408;1406482238;kakobrekla;heroin od is also uncivilized ? 772409;1406482239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00079644 = 17.681 BTC [-] 772410;1406482311;*;asciilifeform wonders if any american state has tried bumping off convicts with cocaine 772411;1406482311;ThickAsThieves;<+bitcoinpete> ;;later tell ThickAsThieves i went to school with the carbon copy of the singer in the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right, that'll be him in 5-10 years /// David Bazan is probably a top 3 artist for me 772412;1406482363;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell mike_c audio is done, just printing finals now 772413;1406482363;gribble;The operation succeeded. 772414;1406482427;BingoBoingo; heroin od is also uncivilized ? << Well, there's the part in there where asphyxiation tends to be the cause of death. Really an aesthetic problem. 772415;1406482439;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: neat. i'll pass it along :D 772416;1406482465;HeySteve;hmm, how do they put animals to sleep? that mix seems to work well and is presumably humane 772417;1406482507;HeySteve;when the vet injected my poor old cat, she went quickly and quietly 772418;1406482535;BingoBoingo; hmm, how do they put animals to sleep? that mix seems to work well and is presumably humane << Depends on the animal and its size. 772419;1406482540;asciilifeform;the one common anthropological thread i see here is that most governments insist on some 'national' symbolic meaning in their chosen means of execution. e.g., the french guillotine across all five 'republics' 772420;1406482561;asciilifeform;when usa was a techno-power, electric chair was king 772421;1406482580;asciilifeform;banana republics, soviet world - shooting 772422;1406482586;HeySteve;asciilifeform, did the Russians have firing squad? 772423;1406482589;HeySteve;ah right 772424;1406482632;asciilifeform;HeySteve: traditional civilian execution in russia involves a single bullet (firing squad is seen as 'military', not befitting a common criminal) 772425;1406482681;HeySteve;ok. I know they shoot people in China, not sure billing the families for the bullet is an urban legend 772426;1406482693;asciilifeform;china follows the russian tradition 772427;1406482765;HeySteve;"Stoning remains a legal form of judicial punishment in Iraq, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Northern Nigeria, Aceh in Indonesia, Brunei, and Pakistan;" 772428;1406482786;HeySteve;that's a bit rough by comparison to other methods 772429;1406482798;asciilifeform;so from this it follows that the current ceremony (injection with not-quite-poisons in an elaborate pseudo-medical setting) also symbolizes something about modern usa, re: national character. 772430;1406482823;chetty;bring back hemlock 772431;1406482839;HeySteve;death by obamacare 772432;1406482922;asciilifeform;there are other interestingly perverse aspects of how prisoners are kept in usa prior to execution 772433;1406482953;asciilifeform;for instance, a squad of jailers watches over the condemned for weeks, months, years - to ensure that he doesn't suicide and cheat the executioner - and the court - of their spectacle 772434;1406482961;mircea_popescu;omfg i woke up with an article! and you people already wrote another here! I WILL NEVER CATCH UP NAO 772435;1406482968;asciilifeform;lol 772436;1406482971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1023 @ 0.00290143 = 2.9682 BTC [-] {4} 772437;1406483012;mircea_popescu; banana republics, soviet world - shooting << that's just nazi wannabe-ism. 772438;1406483038;mircea_popescu; ok. I know they shoot people in China << notrly, they have a van arrangement. 772439;1406483041;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what aspect of 20th c.-style government isn't. 772440;1406483063;asciilifeform;china << they're experimenting with poison, from purely pragmatic considerations (can sell organs) 772441;1406483156;mircea_popescu;!up anthor 772442;1406483272;kakobrekla;!up nagzter 772443;1406483274;kakobrekla;!up Basquiat_ 772444;1406483320;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i just tried to put stuff in bash and it said 37 is not correct captcha 772445;1406483323;mircea_popescu;what am i doing wrong. 772446;1406483329;mircea_popescu;i tried 35 too just to be sure. 772447;1406483362;kakobrekla;math expired. 772448;1406483535;nagzter;kakobrekla: thanks! 772449;1406483596;mircea_popescu;!s nagzter 772450;1406483596;assbot;7 results for 'nagzter' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nagzter 772451;1406483621;nagzter;? 772452;1406483627;mircea_popescu;trying to recall who you were. 772453;1406483632;nagzter;I'm not very chatty 772454;1406483639;nagzter;also sometimes being a girl in IRC... 772455;1406483645;nagzter;means I skip around 772456;1406483647;mircea_popescu;what, you're a girl too ? 772457;1406483651;nagzter;YES! 772458;1406483657;mircea_popescu;welcome lol. 772459;1406483664;nagzter;I always assumed the "nag" part gave it away 772460;1406483676;mircea_popescu;you could just be jewish. 772461;1406483681;nagzter;well you know how it goes... sometimes a channel swerves to "lol boobs" 772462;1406483698;nagzter;funny I am heritage wise, my grandfather was 100% Russian Jew 772463;1406483698;chetty;the womins is taking over, hurrah 772464;1406483699;mircea_popescu;nagzter that's well taken care of here. 772465;1406483711;nagzter;chetty: Yay! 772466;1406483742;mircea_popescu;chetty yeah check that out, the only asshole channel in bitcoin is where all the women are. clearly antontwerpulous is right, everyone else needs to put more trigger warnings and be careful what they say. 772467;1406483825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 263 @ 0.0029 = 0.7627 BTC [-] {2} 772468;1406483835;chetty;absolutely, no misogynists here pls :) 772469;1406483845;nagzter;THIS 772470;1406483859;nagzter;do all the channels have a !s command? 772471;1406483899;mircea_popescu;nagzter nah. 772472;1406483937;nagzter;that's slick 772473;1406483960;chetty;the chan of many talents 772474;1406483995;nagzter;Cool. 772475;1406484002;nagzter;So I'm not a coder or a miner. 772476;1406484008;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00079627 = 16.0847 BTC [-] {2} 772477;1406484011;nagzter;I kind of collect a bunch of coins and do a little trading 772478;1406484031;nagzter;I'm an artist and designer and my husband made a coin 772479;1406484046;nagzter;Now you know what most channels I chat in know ;) 772480;1406484148;mircea_popescu;cool. 772481;1406484166;mircea_popescu;nagzter http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << this is where the boobs come from. 772482;1406484168;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 772483;1406484192;HeySteve;oh nagzter, I met you in Ancient Beast channel 772484;1406484200;mircea_popescu;what coin did your husband make ? 772485;1406484219;nagzter;Yes! 772486;1406484232;nagzter;I haven't played yet (I do loved turn based games!) 772487;1406484255;nagzter;mircea_popescu: RobotSexNickels! 772488;1406484260;nagzter;Totally SFW 772489;1406484265;nagzter;;) 772490;1406484266;mircea_popescu;uh 772491;1406484271;mircea_popescu;is this like a joke coin ? 772492;1406484279;nagzter;it's new! 772493;1406484282;mircea_popescu;lmao 772494;1406484290;nagzter;It's a little silly, but we're on a couple of exchanges 772495;1406484299;nagzter;he's working on a "real" coin and needed the practice 772496;1406484307;nagzter;the graphics are slick if I do say so myself! 772497;1406484313;mircea_popescu;the official joke coin of b-a is, ofcourse, altcoin. 772498;1406484330;nagzter;haha 772499;1406484352;BingoBoingo;%t 772500;1406484357;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 270 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 12k High: 242 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 772501;1406484359;BingoBoingo;%ob 772502;1406484360;atcbot;30k@278 31k@275 955@270 | 45k@210 50k@203 100k@202 772503;1406484360;nagzter;11:02 mircea_popescu: nagzter http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << this is where the boobs come from. 772504;1406484361;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 772505;1406484362;BingoBoingo;%d 772506;1406484364;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 575848.03 in 900 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -16.20 772507;1406484368;nagzter;lol 772508;1406484385;*;DreadKnight waves 772509;1406484397;nagzter;hey 772510;1406484405;mircea_popescu;!up the20year1 772511;1406484411;the20year1;Joys 772512;1406484420;the20year1;but this whole gpg thing is still frusterating me 772513;1406484425;mircea_popescu;from what i gather, your problem was that you were using an old, cached and therefore expred otp ? 772514;1406484429;the20year1;Well, it alongwith bitcointalk 772515;1406484444;mircea_popescu;use curl. it doesn't cache stupidly. 772516;1406484446;DreadKnight;nagzter, would be funny if the joke coin would take off and not the "real" one, twitter scenario 772517;1406484454;the20year1;Well, that was the original problem, nanotube helped me get past that , the problem now lies with /query (pm) to assbot to self-up 772518;1406484461;nagzter;DreadKnight: it could happen I suppose 772519;1406484474;nagzter;People do seem to like the silly name 772520;1406484482;mircea_popescu;uh 772521;1406484484;nagzter;(and the slick graphics ahem) 772522;1406484492;mircea_popescu;nagzter what, you made them ? 772523;1406484504;nagzter;That's what I do! 772524;1406484513;DreadKnight;in dogecoin channel people got hyped about "bacoin" recently and wanted to make it only to find out someone tried that almost an year ago xD 772525;1406484516;nagzter;I did custom icons for the wallets and designed the site 772526;1406484516;mircea_popescu;the20year1 that's so bizarre tho, you must be doing something out there. it literally is just pm assbot. 772527;1406484522;mircea_popescu;can you get it to respond to any other command in pm ? 772528;1406484529;nagzter;such a great name, bacoin 772529;1406484545;DreadKnight;seems that the original guy who tried failed 772530;1406484568;the20year1;what assbot commands are there? 772531;1406484574;the20year1;i can do it with gribble justfine 772532;1406484579;nagzter;http://robotsexnickels.com/ mircea_popescu 772533;1406484580;assbot;Robot Sex Nickels 772534;1406484592;nagzter;assbot: is smart! 772535;1406484609;mircea_popescu;the20year1 try !s hey 772536;1406484618;DreadKnight;nagzter, definitely go for it with your husband for the other coin if you haven't picked a name xD 772537;1406484624;nagzter;lol 772538;1406484624;mircea_popescu;Amazing Assbot 772539;1406484627;the20year1;assbot: 1900 results for 'hey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hey 772540;1406484628;assbot;1900 results for 'hey' - #bitcoin-assets search 772541;1406484636;the20year1;that's what I returned from assbot 772542;1406484648;mircea_popescu;cool so then do !up once you're id'd with gribble 772543;1406484658;DreadKnight;it's fun how assb0t sometimes flames people 772544;1406484667;HeySteve;the20year1, had the same problem yesterday 772545;1406484668;the20year1;and that's where I was getting that error (the you must be voiced to do this command) or whatever 772546;1406484671;mircea_popescu;nagzter not bad lookin'. 772547;1406484672;nagzter;I haven't seen that yet! 772548;1406484675;nagzter;thanks mircea_popescu 772549;1406484689;DreadKnight;funny* 772550;1406484691;mircea_popescu;the20year1 odd. well mebbe kakobrekla finds something. 772551;1406484695;nagzter;The robot is a blender model, but the rest is mine 772552;1406484710;HeySteve;hey DreadKnight. I had a thought about the game, would giving the creatures and "summoner" a single manapool work? 772553;1406484732;the20year1;HeySteve: how did you fix it? 772554;1406484803;HeySteve;the20year1 I didn't, it just went away today. yesterday I could auth with alt gribble. didn't try restarting browser to wipe any saved data tho 772555;1406484815;the20year1;alright, i guess i'll try it today 772556;1406484823;the20year1;because I tried it via pigin IRC and IRCCloud and neither worked 772557;1406484835;the20year1;now my next question is once you !up yourself, is it only a 30m voice? 772558;1406484913;DreadKnight;HeySteve, well, no mana as there is no magic; there's plasma to protect Dark Priest (summoner) and also make units (so more / better units = less protection, it's a tradeoff); each unit has it's own energy stat, abilities require energy, there's also meditation to replenish that, but if an unit gets damaged in a round above a treshold (more than endurance stat), then the unit gets no regen it's next turn (regrowth for health and m 772559;1406484913;DreadKnight;editation for energy) 772560;1406484922;kakobrekla;bash flushed 772561;1406484926;the20year1;what game is this? 772562;1406484939;nagzter;Ancient Beast! 772563;1406484961;DreadKnight;:D 772564;1406484987;kakobrekla; now my next question is once you !up yourself, is it only a 30m voice? < when you do it over pm, no, given you are authed. 772565;1406485001;kakobrekla;nagzter get into the wot? 772566;1406485044;DreadKnight;didn't seemed time limited to me hmm 772567;1406485045;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71550 @ 0.00079829 = 57.1176 BTC [+] {3} 772568;1406485113;fluffypony;;;gettrust assbot DreadKnight 772569;1406485114;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Trust relationship from user assbot to user DreadKnight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=DreadKnight | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=DreadKnight | Rated since: Sun Apr 7 16:22:29 2013 772570;1406485121;fluffypony;you're in assbot's L2 trust, DreadKnight 772571;1406485127;fluffypony;so there's no time limit for you 772572;1406485138;DreadKnight;HeySteve, hopefully that makes sense to you; will show you wip document design next week, hopefully you'll have more questions about things not clear enough 772573;1406485143;HeySteve;DreadKnight, wasn't aware of that tradeoff, makes sense. that's the kind of mechanic I was suggesting, like you could use a lot of powerful unit abilities or summon a lot of creatures, but not both as a strategy 772574;1406485169;HeySteve;yeah I didn't get that from testing it 772575;1406485174;chetty;V 44. The alpha person at a gathering of "high status" 772576;1406485174;chetty;persons is often, detectably, the waiter.(Taleb) 772577;1406485185;mircea_popescu;the20year1 tried via webirc ? 772578;1406485193;mircea_popescu;and no, it's permanent. 772579;1406485214;DreadKnight;HeySteve, there's setting for limiting number of units; they're pretty big compared to HoMM games anyway; combat field gets more crowded easier, especially in 2vs2 772580;1406485241;mircea_popescu;chetty oh that guy... he's so dreamy... 772581;1406485243;DreadKnight;HeySteve, keep in mind higher level units cost way more, there's a cost formula 772582;1406485245;the20year1;webirc will be the next one i try 772583;1406485264;kakobrekla;dont change the car when it only needs gas. 772584;1406485537;DreadKnight;HeySteve, so basically you have the whole moba type of game team under your own management instead of having to rely on random idiots and hope they're doing the right thing; 772585;1406485545;DreadKnight;HeySteve, squishy units that either do a lot of damage or are meant for support and really tanky units that are meant to protect others and take damage 772586;1406485685;asciilifeform;'For social mobility to work, it needs to be a two-way highway, with a large number of pre-rich and an almost as large one of post-rich.' -- from the taleb link 772587;1406485716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00080251 = 14.4051 BTC [+] {4} 772588;1406485727;mircea_popescu;nah, why not make everyone rich 772589;1406485736;asciilifeform;lol 772590;1406485793;DreadKnight;some people would get poor in no time anyway, as they originally were 772591;1406485812;DreadKnight;well, not "some", but most 772592;1406485867;HeySteve;rich people becoming poor? socialism! 772593;1406485889;DreadKnight;"rich" seems to be more of a state of mind; kinda like you're saying on your blog "pay up or this could wither and die" on your blog mircea_popescu, even though that's not the case, but I like the lesson you're teaching 772594;1406485899;asciilifeform;'Mathematicians think in symbols, physicists in objects, philosophers in concepts, geometers in images, jurists in constructs, logicians in operators, writers in impressions, and idiots in words.' 772595;1406485952;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i was being sarcastique 772596;1406485971;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah, got that :) 772597;1406485980;mircea_popescu;and physicists don't think in "objects", what an ignorant thing to say 772598;1406485985;mircea_popescu;physicists think in wavefunctions. 772599;1406485987;DreadKnight;haha 772600;1406486060;DreadKnight;energy, intensity, frequency, amplitude 772601;1406486062;*;asciilifeform physicists think in wavefunctions << summons zombie of hugh everett 772602;1406486085;mircea_popescu;no but srsly, "objects" ? what is this, naive physicalism cca 1880 ? 772603;1406486090;DreadKnight;most physicists actually don't believe in objects and matter, it's all energy or simply nothing 772604;1406486096;mircea_popescu;^ 772605;1406486129;DreadKnight;so matter is like frozen energy 772606;1406486150;asciilifeform;DreadKnight, mircea_popescu: the physics that yields interesting machinery, vs. 20th.c navel gazing, was done by folks who 'thought in objects' more often than not. 772607;1406486175;mircea_popescu;and i'll venture to say that pretty much all the good philosophers similarly don't think in "concepts", whatever that is, but in a sort of equivalent of the wavefununction, except it has two major irreducible statements. one's systematic the other historical. 772608;1406486197;mircea_popescu;but any philosopher worth his salt will interact not with a "concept" but with either the graph of that concept's history in the mind of man, 772609;1406486207;mircea_popescu;or else with the graph of that concept and its relations. 772610;1406486226;DreadKnight;otherwise he'll have a hard time explaining things to people 772611;1406486228;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i disagree. see the short cathode tv. 772612;1406486277;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: minkowski, weyl. 'objects', pre-20th c. 772613;1406486304;mircea_popescu;the SHORT cathode. you know, the one the japs built. 772614;1406486308;asciilifeform;yes, with sr 772615;1406486342;mircea_popescu;i suspek you're just trying an underhanded approach to introduce the supremacy of engineers over theoretical physicitsts :D 772616;1406486373;mircea_popescu;so let's take the baby home : real programmers think in terms of functions and macros, 772617;1406486386;mircea_popescu;not in terms of variables and values. 772618;1406486401;*;asciilifeform sees 20th c. physicists as largely imposters, who 'the good parts - not original, the original parts - not good' 772619;1406486409;mircea_popescu;(i mean lisp-functions, not int blabla ()-functions) 772620;1406486425;DreadKnight;Newton's falling apple was likely just a nice story to make people visualize things :P 772621;1406486427;*;asciilifeform not a cultist of the engineer, but of folks like j.c. maxwell, who knew exactly how to build a radio - and didn't. 772622;1406486453;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know these impostors knew exactly how to build a cern and did. 772623;1406486470;asciilifeform;e.g, herr einstein: a junkyard dog, who took credit for the genuinely interesting late 19th. c. work 772624;1406486483;asciilifeform;cern - navel gazing 772625;1406486497;mircea_popescu;hm. 772626;1406486506;mircea_popescu;you dispute it's an actual piece of machinery ? 772627;1406486511;asciilifeform;it's a machine, sure 772628;1406486521;mircea_popescu;so then ? you dispute it actually works as described ? 772629;1406486522;asciilifeform;but makes 'manned space' look useful 772630;1406486531;mircea_popescu;use is not really a consideration here. 772631;1406486542;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is, in this exact sense, useless. 772632;1406486584;asciilifeform;cern, other 'strong force' shenanigans are a good example of 'chinese' scholastiwank. the people involved - entirely uninterested in systematization of knowledge, much less practical use 772633;1406486588;asciilifeform;stamp collectors. 772634;1406486620;mircea_popescu;nobody's arguing there's a large number of would-be followers in any race, who to the acute observer look more like they're going through the motions 772635;1406486627;mircea_popescu;rather than actually doing the winning. 772636;1406486629;asciilifeform;good litmus test - anyone involved with 'strings' 772637;1406486635;DreadKnight;bitcoin is theoretically an energy allowing to polymorph sheeps into cars and so on, to facilitate exchanges and needs 772638;1406486649;mircea_popescu;obviously a large number of people who like to identify as physicists are in the situation of people who like to identify as rockstars. 772639;1406486664;asciilifeform;the string folks explicitly renounced testability of hypothesis! if that isn't an open declaration of charlatanry, what is ? 772640;1406486675;mircea_popescu;how is this related ? 772641;1406486714;asciilifeform;notice how every piece of actual 'practical' machinery we have that makes use of 'modern' physics, the physics in question is 1940s or prior ? 772642;1406486729;mircea_popescu;you ever took a rmi ? 772643;1406486736;asciilifeform;this is not, as the particle smashers tell us, an accident. 772644;1406486748;mircea_popescu;mri* 772645;1406486755;asciilifeform;nmr -> 1930s 772646;1406486759;mircea_popescu;eh get out. 772647;1406486761;asciilifeform;plus 1980s computer. 772648;1406486763;asciilifeform;seriously 772649;1406486772;asciilifeform;isodor rabi. 772650;1406486789;mircea_popescu;well if you go at it that way then everything's ancient greek atomism. 772651;1406486823;mircea_popescu;for that matter, 1940s is 20th century anyway, and sure, engineers take 50 years or so to apply fundamental physics 772652;1406486826;asciilifeform;nope. the latter - navel gazing. no testability given their tech. 772653;1406486828;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, 1940 is not pre-qm. 772654;1406486829;DreadKnight;theoretical physics might seem to have no application atm, but that's the whole point, debating and eventually (hopefully) allowing to grasp more complex concepts and allow for further technological improvements, like being able to go through worm holes and such 772655;1406486853;midnightmagic;the physics is not 1940s or prior. i have a friend whose PhD was literally pushing the boundaries of particle physics using results obtained from LHC 772656;1406486887;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic im kinda saving (radio)astronomy here in a compartment, for later. 772657;1406486889;midnightmagic;the physics is new, even if it's a negative result 772658;1406486906;asciilifeform;DreadKnight, midnightmagic: not insisting that the particle hijinx have no possible applications, in a far future. just that these applications will require a resurrection of the caliber of men we had 1800-1900. 772659;1406486921;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so you mean einstein ? 772660;1406486928;midnightmagic;"no new more fundamental particles as of X TeV in the LHC" 772661;1406486929;mircea_popescu;or who exactly, fermi ? pauli ? the germanz ? 772662;1406486948;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, things are getting more and more complex now, it takes more work and time 772663;1406486959;DreadKnight;einstein might have been fake, his wife might have been the smart one 772664;1406486967;asciilifeform;faraday, maxwell, lorentz, etc 772665;1406486977;mircea_popescu;you're such an old west fetishist :D 772666;1406486987;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, just like bitcoin mining is increasing in difficulty 772667;1406486992;midnightmagic;IMO, in a brand-new field, those singular talents can exist. Once the primary breakthroughs are finished, it requires teams and long-term hard work to push it forward. IMHO anyway. me != physicist. 772668;1406486996;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: things are getting more and more complex now, it takes more work and time << the motto of the 20th c. intellectual impostor class, in a nutshell. 772669;1406487005;DreadKnight;midnightmagic, exactly 772670;1406487008;asciilifeform;'complexity is irreducible now, the only possible kind of man is now the stamp collector' 772671;1406487020;asciilifeform;'encyclopaedists can no longer exist' 772672;1406487029;mircea_popescu;i'm one, what. 772673;1406487038;midnightmagic;not to say I disagree with anything you guys are saying fundamentally of course 772674;1406487038;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: so you know it's a lie. 772675;1406487054;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, steven hawkings might be smart, but he's stuck in a wheel chair, so not much for him to do besides brainstorm :P 772676;1406487069;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: his intellectual milieu is more crippling than his paralysis 772677;1406487072;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what i don't know is that ~everyone~ is pushing it. 772678;1406487083;mircea_popescu;you don't judge physics by what highschool teachers say about it. 772679;1406487088;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not everyone. just the grant-eaters. 772680;1406487094;mircea_popescu;who cares about them ? 772681;1406487107;mircea_popescu;i thot we were discussing teh science not teh politics. 772682;1406487114;asciilifeform;100 yrs from now - no one. but they're the ones who get to build machines. 772683;1406487149;mircea_popescu;wait, your theory is that the 5-6bn spent to build the lhc could have been better employed building what alternative item ? 772684;1406487168;asciilifeform;false dichotomy. maxwell needed no $b hardware. 772685;1406487178;mircea_popescu;so then who cares they get to build machines lol. 772686;1406487180;mircea_popescu;let em. 772687;1406487190;DreadKnight;things are getting exponentially harder, it's like the needle in the haystack 772688;1406487191;mircea_popescu;who knows, maybe a golden chicken falls out of it. 772689;1406487229;asciilifeform;the harm of the mega-machines is not the wasted money, but that nearly every student of physics now believes that the field is inescapably 'about' the machines 772690;1406487236;asciilifeform;see mircea_popescu's skyscraper example. 772691;1406487242;DreadKnight;compare making a wagon with space rockets. NASA is dealing with a lot of math, people and money 772692;1406487275;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform listen, what 99% of a class believes about the field is uninteresting by the definition of the 99%. 772693;1406487296;mircea_popescu;99% of students of physics in 1905 believed it's a resolved problem, too. 772694;1406487320;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight nasa just got cut off the pipe, actually. 772695;1406487355;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, I'm glad actually, a NPO like mars one does more interesting stuff 772696;1406487456;*;asciilifeform was acquainted with one such '1%' - al schwartz. who has an eminently testable hypothesis re: parity violation, and spent a decade (& counting) trying to score 2 weeks on an eotvos rotor balance. while the charlatans build their $b colliders. 772697;1406487498;*;asciilifeform recently tried to check on herr schwartz - he isn't answering. possibly he went 'full perelman' mode. 772698;1406487534;DreadKnight;a lot of inventions are promoted thanks to their monetization potential, so if there's demand and it sells, it's a good invention 772699;1406487546;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31405 @ 0.00080243 = 25.2003 BTC [-] {2} 772700;1406487554;DreadKnight;it's all business and some luck; a lot of cool stuff is kept hidden just because it's not for the average joe 772701;1406487617;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ah i recall that. 772702;1406487623;DreadKnight;even the PC was close to being dismissed as crap because of lack of vision from the business man taking a look at it 772703;1406487704;asciilifeform;herr adelberger (http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash) << nomination for Flondor List (tm) 772704;1406487774;mircea_popescu;how much do two weeks on such a rotor even cost ? 772705;1406487802;asciilifeform;(short version: adelberger tested all variants of crud, including left- and right-handed machine screws (!) and gleefully pronounced - no parity violation. refused under any pretext to test schwartz and petitjean's 'chiralane' molecule.) 772706;1406487902;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom. 772707;1406487913;asciilifeform;adelberger balked. chicoms agreed! 772708;1406487930;mircea_popescu;so what happened ? 772709;1406487933;asciilifeform;a few months later, they stopped answering phone. the postdocs who handled the run - desaparecido. 772710;1406487945;mircea_popescu;this sounds like a great mystery. 772711;1406487952;asciilifeform;al's hypothesis - the matter entered the jurisdiction of PLA. 772712;1406487974;mircea_popescu;Pacific Locomotive Association ? 772713;1406487982;asciilifeform;people's liberation army. 772714;1406487991;mircea_popescu;Phone Losers of America ? playboy oh. 772715;1406487995;asciilifeform;loll 772716;1406488006;mircea_popescu;was this in ireland ? 772717;1406488013;asciilifeform;china 772718;1406488028;asciilifeform;中国人民解放军 772719;1406488042;decimation;if we don't have a maxwell today, where are our faradays and hertzs and lorentzs and heavisides? 772720;1406488042;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/discorsi-da-letto/ 772721;1406488044;mircea_popescu;sounds reasonable. any aspiring writers wanna make this into an optionable script ? :D 772722;1406488083;mircea_popescu;decimation you know they're not our. 772723;1406488101;mircea_popescu;and they're probably being reasonable men and women, doing finance and real estate. 772724;1406488141;asciilifeform;obligatory: 772725;1406488144;asciilifeform;!s greenspun 772726;1406488144;assbot;14 results for 'greenspun' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=greenspun 772727;1406488161;decimation;I guess I'm using "our" for "our time", in as much as anyone can 'own' an epoch 772728;1406488180;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa if you're still looking btw, there's http://mpex.ws/faq.html#11 772729;1406488312;DreadKnight;all them poor women, not having clothes xD 772730;1406488326;mircea_popescu;builds character. 772731;1406488340;asciilifeform;today we learned that mircea_popescu still owns an electron-smashing tv set... 772732;1406488355;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i was crashing. 772733;1406488368;asciilifeform;aha 772734;1406488373;mircea_popescu;yest took girl to be nude among hundreds of people for the first time in her life, 772735;1406488376;mircea_popescu;and also canings. 772736;1406488525;decimation;I miss my trinitron with its shadow-bars; the LCDs that replaced it just don't have the same dynamic range 772737;1406488576;mircea_popescu;decimation in fairness, cathode was a well mature tech. lcd is adolescent. 772738;1406488584;DreadKnight;vinyl records vs digital format all over again 772739;1406488584;mircea_popescu;it'll prolly be pretty damned good by 2040 772740;1406488591;decimation;also I wonder when someone decided that displays cannot come in 4:3 aspect ratio anymore 772741;1406488594;*;asciilifeform has been using this: http://imgur.com/9NX7eaX as a tv for some years. works great. 772742;1406488594;assbot;tv - Imgur 772743;1406488600;decimation;things are getting better comrades 772744;1406488601;mircea_popescu;cause to make it look like the cinema screen 772745;1406488637;DreadKnight;decimation, did a lot of research on aspect ratios, seem a lot of older people really miss 4:3 772746;1406488642;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform da fuck did you do, behead that guy from startrek ? 772747;1406488644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00080361 = 11.7729 BTC [+] {2} 772748;1406488646;asciilifeform;lol 772749;1406488650;asciilifeform;it's a 'dlp' gizmo 772750;1406488662;asciilifeform;cheap & angry. 772751;1406488680;asciilifeform;vga/dvi in, picture out. 772752;1406488694;benkay;cooked up a decent one last night: "shartup" 772753;1406488696;decimation;do you use a screen on the wall or painted white wall? 772754;1406488703;asciilifeform;decimation: rollup screen. 772755;1406488724;asciilifeform;2 metre diagonal. 772756;1406488732;mircea_popescu;!s shartup 772757;1406488733;assbot;0 results for 'shartup' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shartup 772758;1406488741;mircea_popescu;hm i coulda sworn i saw it b4 772759;1406488742;decimation;on an old-school tripod stand? 772760;1406488749;benkay;!s fartup 772761;1406488749;assbot;12 results for 'fartup' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=fartup 772762;1406488750;asciilifeform;hangs from ceiling 772763;1406488754;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, which guy from star trek, the borg? xD 772764;1406488757;benkay;;;ud shart 772765;1406488758;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shart | shart. a small, unintended defecation that occurs when one relaxes the anal sphincter to fart (blend of "shit" and "fart"). I sharted at the party last night and 772766;1406488773;DreadKnight;shirt 772767;1406488775;mircea_popescu;chetty: II 5. France took Algeria, hoping for a country to eat cassoulet and instead France is now eating couscous. << this is what happens when small penis messes with big penis. 772768;1406488783;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight that engineer guy. 772769;1406488818;mircea_popescu;benkay ud helpfully neglects to mention it's a gay problem. 772770;1406488829;benkay;heh 772771;1406488840;mircea_popescu;hetero scum don't gain the ability to relax their bunghole quite to the degree. 772772;1406488858;benkay;not even the reamed girls? 772773;1406488872;mircea_popescu;i was thinking of people, not women. 772774;1406488879;benkay;hue 772775;1406488890;mircea_popescu;ahhh epic. 772776;1406488890;asciilifeform;decimation: if you buy a gizmo like this, get the roll screen, walls aren't nearly as reflective. 772777;1406488890;benkay;most dick-havers aren't people to be fair 772778;1406488915;mircea_popescu;benkay i am a calophile. that's one who takes great enjoyment in callousness. 772779;1406488926;mircea_popescu;(actually it's one who enjoys words formally, but nevertheless) 772780;1406488938;decimation;asciilifeform yeah I think that's the most economic way to get a big screen 772781;1406488939;benkay;calluses are gross. 772782;1406488957;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, oh, La Forge, the black guy with visor 772783;1406488959;asciilifeform;decimation: total cost of all the widgets ~= 1k usd, and that was ages ago 772784;1406488969;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight i didn't notice his skin tone. 772785;1406488977;mircea_popescu;buncha racists in this chan. 772786;1406489002;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, haha, "afro american" or something; star trek maintained a bit of diversity to seem non racist 772787;1406489021;DreadKnight;forgot the term, native african? hmm 772788;1406489022;mircea_popescu;and even gave bridge bunnies actual roles. 772789;1406489030;DreadKnight;yes :3 772790;1406489080;DreadKnight;haven't seen the star trek with female captain yet though 772791;1406489085;mircea_popescu;"Here Are My Official Comments on the" dude who the fuck is this guy lol. someone made counterfeit comments on his behalf ? 772792;1406489094;mircea_popescu;"I am an attorney and Certified Public Accountant with a Master's Degree in Accounting. " 772793;1406489095;mircea_popescu;derp. 772794;1406489119;mircea_popescu;READ MY BOOK: "REDEEMING CHRIST" I've decided to serialize and publish on this blog a book that I've been working on for some time 772795;1406489129;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves where do you find them! 772796;1406489147;asciilifeform;redeeming christ << like those aluminum cans one can redeem at recycler plant for five cents ? 772797;1406489158;DreadKnight;I was thinking about it as well xD 772798;1406489161;benkay;* asciilifeform wonders if any american state has tried bumping off convicts with cocaine // i appreciated this pun 772799;1406489177;fluffypony;that's the Sean King thing? I quite enjoyed his letter, though, I thought he put things in a way that was nicely digestible to the non-technical types 772800;1406489179;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, he's trying to be clever, in the manner of an accountant 772801;1406489194;mircea_popescu;you see, the direct is "christ the redeemer", so wuldn't it be all edgy and creative to reverse it ? 772802;1406489214;DreadKnight;drugs are the easiest to get in prisons, most can OD there anytime at will 772803;1406489260;mircea_popescu;fluffypony the problem with me is that my reader is configured to quickly drop. which will probably warrant the neverending hatred of the asciilifeforms of the future on account of me having skipped who knows what valuable item of some valuable fellow on the grounds that that fellow wasn't either mentally organised enough for my taste or maybe not versed in teh variety speak or who knows. 772804;1406489272;mircea_popescu;i try to compensate by being a quite public asshole about it, tho. should work. 772805;1406489278;fluffypony;lol 772806;1406489313;mircea_popescu;but anyway : i can't get to the letter, because i can't read the "official oppinions" of accountants who wrote a book called redeeming christ. 772807;1406489316;mircea_popescu;it's just me. 772808;1406489337;DreadKnight;every time I hear that book title it really craps me up :D 772809;1406489345;mircea_popescu;you mean cracks ? 772810;1406489345;DreadKnight;cracks* damn 772811;1406489356;mircea_popescu;don't get the cocaine and the dumps all bumped up together now 772812;1406489366;mircea_popescu;benkay ^ for your consideration. 772813;1406489383;DreadKnight;I'm starting to not get mad about religious people anymore and actually get a laugh or two, finally 772814;1406489391;mircea_popescu;since no more gf ? 772815;1406489469;benkay;if your coke has lumps either someone on you has dumped or you yourself is trying to bump 772816;1406489484;mircea_popescu;http://devilsadvocate.biz/strange-negotiations/ << im starting to like tat's blogging. 772817;1406489486;assbot;Strange Negotiations 772818;1406489519;mircea_popescu;benkay that sounded like the sweet singer of michigan if she were emo and trying to fit in with the hip crowd. 772819;1406489576;mircea_popescu;( http://trilema.com/2010/literara-este-grea/ in case anyone dun know j.a. moore) 772820;1406489578;assbot;Literara este grea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 772821;1406489742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1852 @ 0.00285026 = 5.2787 BTC [-] {6} 772822;1406489795;benkay; in dogecoin channel people got hyped about "bacoin" recently and wanted to make it only to find out someone tried that almost an year ago xD 772823;1406489795;benkay;// bsas? bitcoin-assets? 772824;1406489843;punkman;bacon? 772825;1406489848;benkay;oh god 772826;1406489860;mircea_popescu;:D 772827;1406489877;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/349M1MJ.txt ) 772828;1406489877;mircea_popescu;!b 5 772829;1406489882;benkay;if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them 772830;1406489903;asciilifeform;bsas? bovine serum albumens ? 772831;1406489911;mircea_popescu;personally, i blame stand-up "comedians" 772832;1406489920;mircea_popescu;they keep doing this thing. 772833;1406489921;benkay;comedy is dead in america. 772834;1406489931;mircea_popescu;that's how bacon got to be the cancerous forced meme it is. 772835;1406489955;benkay;well it is covered in activated carbon 772836;1406489956;mircea_popescu;(amusingly, maddox was harping about beef jerky before teh mainstream picked it up as bacon) 772837;1406490109;DreadKnight;benkay, are you a vegetarian? 772838;1406490110;punkman;jerky is so much better than bacon 772839;1406490126;punkman;fluffypony: next time you come to eu, smuggle some bilton for me 772840;1406490133;punkman;*biltong 772841;1406490138;benkay; i suspek you're just trying an underhanded approach to introduce the supremacy of engineers over theoretical physicitsts :D // this needs introduction? 772842;1406490147;benkay;!s benkay steak 772843;1406490148;assbot;9 results for 'benkay steak' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=benkay+steak 772844;1406490167;benkay;DreadKnight: don't make me google for you too 772845;1406490177;DreadKnight;benkay, gotcha 772846;1406490197;mircea_popescu;benkay course. 772847;1406490200;fluffypony;punkman: I can try, the sniffer dogs are pretty hardcore with that 772848;1406490213;punkman;fluffypony: where? 772849;1406490226;mircea_popescu;you recall, i'm the gadfly. i said the boboo about coders too, like finance people, heresies pile one. 772850;1406490234;asciilifeform;re: dogs: anyone remember baldaev? 772851;1406490234;HeySteve;hmm biltong for bitcoin, could be the next silk road 772852;1406490236;fluffypony;punkman: at the airport on the way out 772853;1406490236;asciilifeform;!s baldaev 772854;1406490237;assbot;3 results for 'baldaev' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=baldaev 772855;1406490249;benkay;well hey finance god tier eh? 772856;1406490250;mircea_popescu;fluffypony they don't let you take it OUT ?! 772857;1406490253;asciilifeform;turns out his profession was - police dog trainer & handler. 772858;1406490256;DreadKnight;!up HeySteve 772859;1406490263;punkman;mircea_popescu: yeah wat 772860;1406490267;asciilifeform;he wrote an interesting autobio (afaik, never translated) about his dog work 772861;1406490279;HeySteve;thx DreadKnight but that's working now 772862;1406490289;asciilifeform;turns out, he writes, one of the most reliable ways to get bitten by such an animal is to give it the impression of attempting to feed it 772863;1406490290;DreadKnight;HeySteve, noticed your comment late 772864;1406490302;benkay;mircea_popescu: i only know the modern scientists, whose sole job is to do worthless "science" on government-allocated capital. which is crimes all over on so many levels. 772865;1406490306;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: correct - you can't take "raw" meat out the country 772866;1406490313;asciilifeform;a police dog (at least, ones trained in the russian tradition) will attack if fed by a stranger. 772867;1406490314;punkman;fluffypony: can you mail it? 772868;1406490326;fluffypony;punkman: no, but there are some export-approved biltong shops 772869;1406490332;fluffypony;san giorgios and takis 772870;1406490425;punkman;heh http://www.sangiorgios.co.za/images/logoblack1.jpg 772871;1406490443;fluffypony;lol 772872;1406490490;mircea_popescu;benkay lettuce not confuse the fakers for the job they're faking. 772873;1406490499;DreadKnight;that reminds me of shops around saying they got natural ice-cream for sale. 772874;1406490502;benkay;all i know is fakery! 772875;1406490506;mircea_popescu;just because a buncha muricans pretend to be scientists shouldn't sour one on science, 772876;1406490515;mircea_popescu;just like their pretend poets shouldn't sour one on poetry. 772877;1406490518;benkay;point me to some science happening right now 772878;1406490526;fluffypony;punkman: I'll have to see how well I have to hermetically seal it to take it in my hand luggage, then I'll take a few kgs with me and just run the risk of it getting confiscated 772879;1406490528;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: a petrified forest is not a forest. 772880;1406490528;mircea_popescu;i don't have to. 772881;1406490530;benkay;not claiming it doesn't exist, just that i'm ignorant. 772882;1406490543;mircea_popescu;ah. well i dunno, i dun follow it much. 772883;1406490573;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you know, between the meta-nsa nd the petrified forest you got a very dissonant thing going. how about the petrified-nsa and the meta-forest ? 772884;1406490600;*;asciilifeform not convinced of the physical existence of meta-nsa. it's a gedanken-nsa. 772885;1406490602;mircea_popescu;benkay would you accept the fermat theorem as research ? 772886;1406490627;punkman;fluffypony, I've only tried imitations made in EU, I imagine the real thing will be even better 772887;1406490660;mircea_popescu;i mean, obviously valuable scientific research doesn't happen in the govt pen. this is hardly surprising. for that matter, europe has a lrge number of "incubators" for start-ups, even timisoara has one, london thinks it dominates this field 772888;1406490667;kuzetsa;punkman: pure beef? 772889;1406490677;mircea_popescu;yet the only bilion dollar eu start-up to date happened outside of all that. 772890;1406490683;asciilifeform;if 'meta-nsa' exists in the flesh, it's probably an assemblage of one grey-haired officer and his two dozen or so apprentices, embedded deep within the scar tissue of usg and surviving in spite of, rather than due to, the overall management. 772891;1406490705;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform so basically you're saying, "if meta-nsa exists, it's a mirror of b-a" 772892;1406490713;asciilifeform;more or less. 772893;1406490717;mircea_popescu;this alone... 772894;1406490723;mircea_popescu;is worth its weight in bitcoinz. 772895;1406490726;asciilifeform;lol 772896;1406490737;punkman;kuzetsa: well yeah, it's a cut of meat, not like processed jerky 772897;1406490745;asciilifeform;general mosquito must have his general mosquitospray. 772898;1406490754;fluffypony;punkman: yeah, you can buy the real spices from a bunch of places in the EU, and there are expats that know how to make biltong, but I think the local beef + conditions in the parts of the Western Cape that are home to speciality producers outweigh anything produced overseas 772899;1406490755;asciilifeform;!s general mosquito 772900;1406490756;assbot;0 results for 'general mosquito' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=general+mosquito 772901;1406490764;asciilifeform;;;google general mosquito spray 772902;1406490765;gribble;Reading about the Liberian civil war - are they pulling my leg ...: ; Sam Bockarie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Into the Heart of Darkness | American Renaissance: 772903;1406490776;decimation;I wonder if anyone from meta-nsa lurks here? 772904;1406490785;mircea_popescu;decimation behind 7 proxies ha-ha ? 772905;1406490795;asciilifeform;'the man who was thursday' 772906;1406490837;kuzetsa;[15:09:42] <+mircea_popescu> kuzetsa if you're still looking btw, there's http://mpex.ws/faq.html#11 << the broken link is un-helpful: socket connection 772907;1406490855;mircea_popescu;foodz and his merry gang have been doing overtime translating and summarizing trilema in teh basements of romania's saas 772908;1406490866;mircea_popescu;(that country is so mercenary it even does spying as a service) 772909;1406490871;kuzetsa;https://40.media.tumblr.com/05f223816f861d3837ee8b0517ffe8cb/tumblr_n7082hXKbh1ty9k88o1_500.jpg unrelated 772910;1406490877;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa s/co/ws/ 772911;1406490910;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: uhm... so the link should be bitcoin-assets.ws/mpex-socket or what? 772912;1406490914;asciilifeform;at this point, the polish, latvian, and, yes, romanian, rent-a-rack torture shoppes frequenced by usa are world famous. 772913;1406490926;mircea_popescu;uh second 772914;1406490949;asciilifeform;(why usa cannot produce a working rack remains a mystery) 772915;1406490960;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa ah i think you gotta pay kako for access to that ? 772916;1406490980;kuzetsa;subscription or one-time? 772917;1406490989;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform why can't it produce a fucking radio set ? 772918;1406490996;asciilifeform;same reason, certainly. 772919;1406490997;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa gotta talk to kakobrekla 772920;1406491002;kuzetsa;hmm :( 772921;1406491006;decimation;ascii the object of the rack has rights 772922;1406491017;asciilifeform;perhaps somewhere in the bowels of meta-DHS there works an old soviet specialist who gets results. 772923;1406491022;DreadKnight; if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them <-- I hate words with multiple meanings, because they tend to complicate things, so I really hate Apple for having that name, should be illegal imo *sigh* 772924;1406491032;decimation;radio sets are aplenty for the DoD, for golden toliet prices 772925;1406491040;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa anyway, i appreciate the girl's shaved and trimmed. clearly she'd make a decent fuck toy. 772926;1406491103;mircea_popescu;!up gilgames1ugga 772927;1406491123;punkman;strapless strapons look so uncomfortable 772928;1406491137;kuzetsa;punkman: they're not 772929;1406491143;kuzetsa;the strap ones are worse 772930;1406491146;asciilifeform;wtf is the point of a single-ended 'strapon' anyway 772931;1406491147;mircea_popescu;punkman thats intended to stimulate the clit 772932;1406491163;asciilifeform;shouldn't it, in principle, be an 'adapter' a la rs232? 772933;1406491165;punkman;asciilifeform: it's double-ended 772934;1406491175;DreadKnight; https://40.media.tumblr.com/05f223816f861d3837ee8b0517ffe8cb/tumblr_n7082hXKbh1ty9k88o1_500.jpg unrelated <-- supposedly some nerdy gamer chick from the tattoo and color of skin :3 772935;1406491186;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it is. there's a lumpy thing lodges inside the vagina and a proby thing going upfront. 772936;1406491195;mircea_popescu;a better tech solution than the strapon really. 772937;1406491199;asciilifeform;ahaa 772938;1406491207;mircea_popescu;took a while for things to switch because the strapon seems so intuitive. 772939;1406491223;mircea_popescu;but really, this is the correct approach 772940;1406491225;punkman;isn't the lever inside the vagine painful when in more vigorous use>? 772941;1406491254;kuzetsa;punkman: not sure what you mean about a lever O_O ... they're designed so the muscles can get a good grip and gspot stim and whatnot 772942;1406491266;mircea_popescu;punkman you have no idea what the vagina can take. 772943;1406491277;*;asciilifeform wonders why the gay folks never built a 'f2m' adapter - think strap-on 'fleshlight'... 772944;1406491277;punkman;I have some idea! 772945;1406491286;mircea_popescu;ok, some idea :D 772946;1406491298;mircea_popescu;moreover : nothing is painful to the sexually aroused woman. 772947;1406491303;kuzetsa;yeah uhm... they're kinda designed for pushing out noisy funny shaped crotchfruit the weight of a bowling ball 772948;1406491329;mircea_popescu;may be a little sore after. 772949;1406491348;mircea_popescu;!up Petrodriller_ 772950;1406491369;mircea_popescu;and girl-boy-dildo should totally be a pronsite. 772951;1406491383;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: you mean the name for one? 772952;1406491387;mircea_popescu;yes 772953;1406491389;kuzetsa;ah 772954;1406491391;mircea_popescu;!up jumae 772955;1406491400;punkman;is .dildo a TLD yet? 772956;1406491413;kuzetsa;come to think of it, I think I saw some pegging porn on my tumblr dash in the past week :) 772957;1406491437;mircea_popescu;FabianB: jurov: or by s.dice you mean popular, high risk, high dividend, short lifetime? << hopefully wol does the better parts of dice. 772958;1406491476;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa this dumbing down of terminology offends me! pegging is when fresh cut ginger is applied prior to twenty or more solid cane swats. 772959;1406491496;kuzetsa;;;ud pegging 772960;1406491497;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegging | pegging. anal sex reveresed. instead of the man sticking his penis up the womans butt, the woman wears a strap-on and sticks it up the mans butt. charles: are ... 772961;1406491505;mircea_popescu;SCANDAL 772962;1406491508;kuzetsa;uh huh 772963;1406491508;punkman;mircea_popescu: that's figging 772964;1406491523;kuzetsa;punkman: I though figging was generally considered anal ginger play 772965;1406491525;kuzetsa;;;ud figging 772966;1406491526;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figging | figging. A peeled ginger root, shaped like a slender butt plug, inserted into the anus without lubrication of any kind. The ginger juices cause pain and extreme ... 772967;1406491529;mircea_popescu;no, figging is when you put bits of fruit in there. 772968;1406491560;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: you need more kink in your life, your vocabulary is mismatched to the definitions 772969;1406491570;mircea_popescu;STOP OPPRESSING ME 772970;1406491589;kuzetsa;ok, that counts a "close enough" to the safeword **unties** 772971;1406491619;mircea_popescu;if i happen to have formed a wrong idea it is my god given right as a transcvasimultiultra and so forth to stick to it and nobody can criticize me! 772972;1406491621;mircea_popescu;!up RooK314 772973;1406491623;HeySteve;hmm I thought figging was done to horses, to make them run faster in races 772974;1406491640;mircea_popescu;HeySteve well some people keep fillies for their private entertainment. 772975;1406491700;kuzetsa;well I tried: "transcvasimultiultra" on bing, and apparently mircea_popescu is a multicultural marketing agent or something 772976;1406491714;mircea_popescu;i just make up words a lot. 772977;1406491730;kuzetsa;wait, is bing thinking that's transgender related? I'm so confused now :( 772978;1406491731;mircea_popescu;!up ryan`c 772979;1406491755;kuzetsa;I should know better than to trust bing :( 772980;1406491830;kuzetsa;I wonder if maybe that unrecognized-by-bing type word was part romanian or something? 772981;1406491832;benkay;mircea_popescu: where'd that gifset come from? 772982;1406491844;kuzetsa;hmm? figging gifset? 772983;1406491852;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. << and yet taleb survives in nyc just fine << yes, he's not in the sort of situation. he's got teh dough. 772984;1406491874;mircea_popescu;benkay tumblr, linked earlier IN THE LOGS 772985;1406491880;punkman;http://emovu.com/ 772986;1406491881;assbot;EmoVu by Eyeris - EmoVu 772987;1406491902;benkay;the pre-tumblr source, boss. 772988;1406491921;benkay; if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them <-- I hate words with multiple meanings, because they tend to complicate things, so I really hate Apple for having that name, should be illegal imo *sigh* 772989;1406491921;benkay;// glass? do you mean google? 772990;1406491932;benkay;and also DreadKnight ambiguity is good for your brain. 772991;1406491942;mircea_popescu;FabianB: isn't on bbet either, often bets with 0.1 on yes and 10 btc on no << that's not so often is it ? 772992;1406491967;mircea_popescu;jurov from what i gather you're looking for a product marketable to the retail investor. that'd likely be mpif. it makes about 1% or so. 772993;1406492013;mircea_popescu;and has an adequate risk profile. (note that s.dice DID NOT have an adequate risk profile, and the dividends came at considerable capital risk. that the bitcoin retail investor is clueless enough to shove that under the rug makes little difference) 772994;1406492112;mircea_popescu;jurov: and if situation gets interesting, mp can pull asks, leaving me unable to add something to other side << i shouldn't be the only person in that market. provided anyone gives a shit about the derps themselves or their general market, enough to actually spend the usd they CLAIM to have received in investment, then that market should easily compete with s.mpoe. 772995;1406492136;mircea_popescu;whether it will or whether it wont fundamentally hinges on whether the vc economy is as relevant for bitcoin as mpoe is. which is a point i can't hardly help i dont think 772996;1406492186;mircea_popescu;jurov: and risk having bitcoins frozen on mpex? for years? << generally, bitcoin stays frozen somewhere anyway. who cycles bitcoin ? 772997;1406492246;mircea_popescu;pigeons: no there is a lot of truth to that << there' sa lot of truth to this : there IS NO OTHER SIDE. it's just words on the web. 772998;1406492261;DreadKnight;benkay, I quoted you, so don't ask me what you meant,lol I just considered you meant to kill them (nuke them) xD 772999;1406492276;mircea_popescu;i got tons of commends and invitations to discuss and socially groom on the topic of eth. meanwhile, the scammers cycled 5k btc or w/e, at 2k, and i got exactly 0 btc at 5k. 773000;1406492298;mircea_popescu;now no matter how you dice it, this simply says nobody is doing any buying at all. 773001;1406492335;DreadKnight;benkay, but yeah, sometimes ambiguity helps making associations and remembering is all about that, plus some brain exercising is not bad, but I thought it's what you had against those people wanting to make a coin called "bacon" or "bacoin" 773002;1406492342;mircea_popescu;punkman: even if you don't get the believers to trade, you get them to pass up 2.5x discount and maybe consider that keeping their BTC might be better than giving them to random derps. << this is exactly it. 773003;1406492378;mircea_popescu;glbse idiots didn't move to mpex after i ruined the various "mining" crap. but they DID stop doing it on glbse, and that was that. 773004;1406492402;DreadKnight;benkay, anyway, associating psychologically something (digital in this case) with food is strange, which I don't like regarding Apple 773005;1406492431;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: so maybe the DERPs would have been better suited to have been run on Havelol by an independent intermediary << hardly, havelol lists 50% and more directly arbitrageable gaps all the time. 773006;1406492452;mircea_popescu;basically, if it's not one of the things they misrepresent, it looks like a pig w/o a lipstick. 773007;1406492491;mircea_popescu;jurov: that's the point, i expect f.* to be impossible to liquidate, unless there is a leak or "leak" << how do you mean ? 773008;1406492524;punkman;leak of IPO information, and I think he meant d.* 773009;1406492542;jurov;punkman yes 773010;1406492562;benkay;DreadKnight: i have no idea where you're getting food. oh - bacon? where's the AAPL connection? 773011;1406492615;mircea_popescu;jurov punkman i don't follow the logic here. explain to me like i was 5 ? 773012;1406492652;mircea_popescu;unrelatedly : anyone wanna do some alpha testing of a brand new service ? 773013;1406492660;mircea_popescu;raise your left toe. 773014;1406492661;jurov;like i wrote on s.nsa example, no one will put bids till there's some news 773015;1406492679;mircea_popescu;jurov if you want to sell, why aren't you putting asks up ? 773016;1406492689;mircea_popescu;the way market works is that if you know what you want to do, you announce it. 773017;1406492696;mircea_popescu;if yu don't know, then you don't announce. 773018;1406492703;mircea_popescu;it is sinful to at the same time know and not have announced. 773019;1406492732;jurov;i have multiple past experiences that one has to wait months for such asks to be sold 773020;1406492756;mircea_popescu;how low ? 773021;1406492766;DreadKnight;benkay, bacon is food, apple is food, naming software or hardware after food is somewhat applying psychological manipulation, think about the Pavlov's dog 773022;1406492772;mircea_popescu;obviously the price and time correlate, i'd think 773023;1406492819;DreadKnight;benkay, so when you talk about common stuff like food you think about the less known altcoin or hardware company and the other way around, which is evil 773024;1406492842;jurov;iirc 20% above ipo/long time average price 773025;1406492846;benkay;the world is full of associations. policing your brain is your own problem, imho. 773026;1406492873;mircea_popescu;jurov so it'd take months to sell for more than the average ? this is expected no ? 773027;1406492897;mircea_popescu;but this is a sidepoint anyway, im more interested in the f.* impossible to liquidate thing 773028;1406492900;benkay;finance must create incentives for long-term investment, otherwise it's not really useful. 773029;1406492923;DreadKnight;benkay, most people when they hear "apple" get a little more spit in their mouth, it's how psychology works, you have involuntary reflexes which you can't control properly 773030;1406492950;benkay;DreadKnight: i care zero whits about most people. 773031;1406492950;DreadKnight;so it's not really my own problem, is something related to our design and the masses 773032;1406492964;DreadKnight;you are people 773033;1406492972;kuzetsa;DreadKnight: when I hear "apple" I think of the company and feel a little sick 773034;1406492981;benkay;jurov et al a huge issue in btc finance right now is the lack of long term plays and the fixation on returns! now! 773035;1406492988;kuzetsa;then again, I'm not "most peolpe" 773036;1406492991;benkay;DreadKnight: i am not most people. 773037;1406492999;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/320GWWN.txt ) 773038;1406492999;benkay;!b 2 773039;1406493000;DreadKnight;kuzetsa, me too, it tans the fruit and ties it to hardware and evil 773040;1406493018;kuzetsa;aww, you got me in a quote? whatever :( 773041;1406493038;DreadKnight;benkay, that's exactly what most people say xD 773042;1406493044;mircea_popescu;benkay well he has a serious problem with a bunch of kids that wish to be made rich by bitcoin through nothing more than just that. 773043;1406493050;mircea_popescu;which... yeah, i can see it'd be a problem. 773044;1406493050;jurov;i mean, if i wanted to liquidate s.nsa, i'd have to sell for 90% and still wait till it gets filled 773045;1406493062;jurov;same happened with f.mpif recently 773046;1406493076;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, mainly I have a problem with Apple and who allowed it to have that name 773047;1406493076;benkay;DreadKnight: and yet i'm a baron of la serenissima, and most people are not never will nor ever could. 773048;1406493090;mircea_popescu;jurov you mean the ~20 btc that sold for 21ish average and the book is pretty much back ? 773049;1406493103;DreadKnight;benkay, first that I hear that word, guess it's a location xD 773050;1406493119;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight no, mainly you're turrning yourself into a problem because you keep beating that dead horse discussion while we're talking finance, which is the overriding topic here. 773051;1406493152;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, very common names can give companies or product a huge boost regarding making those finances 773052;1406493221;DreadKnight;there's a lot of psychology in branding, can even make or break the products themselves 773053;1406493238;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: 46k-spent-mining-hardware-final-reckoning << that'd have been a much better post if it actually included numbers. you know, paid this, then, made back this much so far etc. 773054;1406493253;mircea_popescu;and i guess if it weren't on coindesk. which two are problly synonymous anywaqy. 773055;1406493256;benkay;i suppose if they're undifferentiable from other chicom-originating crap, DreadKnight. otherwise, there's value provided that a brand has nothing to do with. 773056;1406493275;benkay;what's the MPEx brand and how does it make or break MPEx? 773057;1406493370;DreadKnight;benkay, took my quite a bit to remember that MPEx thing and figure out what part of it names stand for, still not sure about the full name; it's an acronym; anyway, stock related stuff is usually named using acronyms and rather obscure compared to regular brands 773058;1406493646;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.0029 = 0.609 BTC [-] 773059;1406493707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2337 @ 0.00289999 = 6.7773 BTC [-] {2} 773060;1406493810;DreadKnight;benkay, anyway, was wondering why you said you would nuke those people since you didn't provided an argument; are you against seeing more joke coins or what? 773061;1406493913;DreadKnight;altcoins are kinda like linux distros nowadays, a lot of people making yet another one for no apparent reason (trying to get rich with not much work), just to change the name and such, hoping they might get lucky 773062;1406493968;DreadKnight;there are only a few coins that actually bring something new to the table 773063;1406493991;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: other than (arguably) 'litecoin' - which? 773064;1406494190;DreadKnight;well, most alt coins change some variables around, just like linux distros change default packages and wallpaper 773065;1406494241;asciilifeform;right. so which ones bring something new ? 773066;1406494261;DreadKnight;some try to improve stuff under the hood, but I don't have the technical expertise to figure out if those changes are really improvements 773067;1406494328;DreadKnight;they're kinda like branches of software, so a bit of experimentation is good to be done in "test areas" rather than on the popular blockchain everybody is using 773068;1406494409;DreadKnight;it's good to have ltc around, just like there's both gold and silver 773069;1406494553;DreadKnight;it's not very likely any time soon that all humans will only use a coin, same goes for languages; a lot of people benefit from conversions / exchanges 773070;1406494601;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: i'd argue that ltc is an experiment ('let's banish asic') that failed. 773071;1406494622;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1910 @ 0.00289999 = 5.539 BTC [-] 773072;1406494657;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, well, after GPU mining was redundant on btc, a lot of people switched to ltc, but pretty much no coin is worth mining with GPU anymore now 773073;1406494673;DreadKnight;so it was just a matter of time; mining difficulty keeps increasing 773074;1406494684;benkay; some try to improve stuff under the hood, but I don't have the technical expertise to figure out if those changes are really improvements // if the improvement isn't plain as the nose on my kike face it and everyone behind it are going to get glassed 773075;1406494698;benkay;improvement on the scale of bitcoin over dollars 773076;1406494700;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ltc is primarily the politician's captive daughter re "we'll ban bitcoin!" 773077;1406494762;DreadKnight;yeah, in case btc gets banned, you got more fish in the pond; so either ban "digital currencies" but fiat money kinda got converted to digital with credit cards 773078;1406494771;DreadKnight;and bank accounts 773079;1406494807;DreadKnight;so banning digital currencies altogether would be hypocritical 773080;1406494809;mircea_popescu;it's not merely "more fish in the pond". that's the easy part. "more swimming fishes, that are doing fine in spite of a laundry list of you may imagine" 773081;1406494814;punkman;DreadKnigh, fiat was digital much earlier than computers 773082;1406494818;mircea_popescu;that spells out "you don't matter" in politician english. 773083;1406494819;xmj_;you know 773084;1406494833;xmj_;someone banning bitcoin would be the best thing ever, as it's much like a hydra. 773085;1406494850;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah good point, but I see ltc as the "next missile in line to fire", just in case 773086;1406494850;mircea_popescu;xmj_ taleb sed so, AndrewJackson even has it in his part message. 773087;1406494864;chetty;ban bitcoin? might as well try to ban the internet 773088;1406494869;xmj_;great minds think alike 773089;1406494870;xmj_;:) 773090;1406494874;FabianB;<+mircea_popescu> FabianB: isn't on bbet either, often bets with 0.1 on yes and 10 btc on no << that's not so often is it ? <-- no, just saw a few 773091;1406494882;DreadKnight;punkman, I'm aware, good point as well :) I guess it's were all the banks and money related problems started appearing... and inflation! 773092;1406494907;mircea_popescu;FabianB link ? 773093;1406494922;mircea_popescu;chetty moar like, the moon. 773094;1406494997;chetty;pass a law, it shall not rain until after sundown 773095;1406495023;xmj_;chetty: whom would you punish if it did? 773096;1406495049;asciilifeform;any earnest attempted ban would presumably include all blockchain-based tech 773097;1406495055;chetty;why everyone who noticed of coure 773098;1406495086;asciilifeform;(the way usa used to ban drugs by name, but now includes a kind of 'regexp' matcher of chemical structure) 773099;1406495138;xmj_;there's a way around every law; loopholes are built-in by default anyway. 773100;1406495139;DreadKnight;hah, there are a lot of re-branded pharmaceutical drugs nowadays, basically the same thing as aspiring or other common stuff, just at way higher prices 773101;1406495190;dub;remembering the internet does get banned periodically in various locales 773102;1406495193;chetty;if its against the law to rain before sundown then it cannot happen and if you say it did you are guilty of something 773103;1406495207;DreadKnight;you don't get to see aspiring ads displayed on tv anyway 773104;1406495210;dub;and parts of it are permanently banned in many places 773105;1406495222;dub;there are technical measures they could bring against bitcoin 773106;1406495258;DreadKnight;I like that btc got mentioned quite a few times in a sci-fi / futuristic show called "Almost Human" 773107;1406495264;*;asciilifeform wasn't suggesting that bans 'work', but disputing that ltc is any kind of pill against whatever effect a hypothetical ban might have. 773108;1406495280;xmj_;chetty: like nothing happened on june 4, 1989, in tiananmen square? 773109;1406495292;asciilifeform;!s tiananmen 773110;1406495292;assbot;1 results for 'tiananmen' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tiananmen 773111;1406495310;asciilifeform;fail. 773112;1406495311;DreadKnight;college students had a protest, they were shot by government / military 773113;1406495328;asciilifeform;DreadKnight: the u.s. state dept.'s version of the events, sure. 773114;1406495336;chetty;exactly like that, and stalin didnt send anyone to gulags (oh oops actually there wasnt anyone named stalin to do that) 773115;1406495336;dub;china is not exactly a shining example of freedom 773116;1406495370;xmj_;dub is missing the point 773117;1406495374;DreadKnight;asciilifeform, maybe, but at least something got out about the event instead of total darkness 773118;1406495388;dub;agreed. 773119;1406495397;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2014#461122 773120;1406495398;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 773121;1406495437;DreadKnight;dub, communism is not freedom; china made own linux distro and imposed it, for a fee, in internet-caffee places and other businesses, kicking microsoft in the nuts and finally taking over 773122;1406495488;mircea_popescu; remembering the internet does get banned periodically in various locales << in the sense it's banned in antarctica, sure. 773123;1406495546;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, radio waves melting the ice or what? xD 773124;1406495549;dub;iraq is the most recent example I'm aware of, but pick anywhere the 'arab spring' reared up 773125;1406495563;dub;egypt for eg 773126;1406495572;mircea_popescu;i had internet in egypt. 773127;1406495597;dub;key word 'periodically' 773128;1406495613;mircea_popescu;there's two conflated points here. you can ban "consumer" grade shit any time. this is fine but irrelevant. bitcoin is not consumer stuff. 773129;1406495632;mircea_popescu;banning consumer grade shit usually is accomplished through being poor. 773130;1406495636;mircea_popescu;this is fine for everyone involved. 773131;1406495656;mircea_popescu;if us bans cotton tomorrow, or oil, or w/e, it'd simply be because it finally became too poor to afford it. 773132;1406495661;mircea_popescu;like the house of many bans meat. 773133;1406495663;chetty;much of the world is already way too dependant on internet, heck its even in soda vending machines now 773134;1406495669;mircea_popescu;they call it vegetarian or w/e the hell, but facts are facts. 773135;1406495676;asciilifeform;dub: 'springs' are the time-honoured american method for having a country nailgun itself in the head. 773136;1406495698;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform american really has naught to do with it. 773137;1406495707;asciilifeform;the american 'spring' will be a sight to behold. 773138;1406495723;dub;there won't be one 773139;1406495744;mircea_popescu;dub i'll bet you us population will be under 200mn by 2050. 773140;1406495758;dub;hey if I had my way it would be under 50 773141;1406495787;chetty;nah, don forget the migration from the south, they will repopiulate 773142;1406495812;asciilifeform;ru, eg, sy, ua - got 'sprung.' cn nipped its 'spring' in the bud, which is why we still have the 'middle kingdom' to kick around. 773143;1406495820;dub;but a spring in the sense of populace uprising, nah 773144;1406495841;mircea_popescu;dub it won't be identified or self-identify as "populace" 773145;1406495850;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, the mexican drug cartels already sprung all the way to arizona. 773146;1406495854;mircea_popescu;this will continue. 773147;1406495867;asciilifeform;aztlan. 773148;1406495880;mircea_popescu;there's no particular reason the command center of that continent has to be in the far away east coast. 773149;1406495881;chetty;I thought they were in Chicago 773150;1406495890;mircea_popescu;california was and will be happy to continue as a province of mexico city. 773151;1406495928;mircea_popescu;so you know, the day i can bribe a mexican official to shoot a federal agent for sport... 773152;1406495948;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw 773153;1406495948;assbot;Public Enemy - By The Time I Get To Arizona - YouTube 773154;1406495952;mircea_popescu;it might as well have happened. whatever "the populace" did 773155;1406496141;decimation;if the power of usg wanes to that degree, I think you will see the power return to the localities/states 773156;1406496193;HeySteve;orlov has a lot to say about the failure of imperial USA, he's not the only one to predict balkanization 773157;1406496238;chetty; so you know, the day i can bribe a mexican official to shoot a federal agent for sport...//by then it wont matter 773158;1406496242;decimation;the USA: "they believed their own propaganda bullshit" 773159;1406496248;mircea_popescu;decimation here's a thought : if the number of us agents executed was small, you'd see a lot of publicity over the cases. the reason you don't hear a peep about it is that.. 773160;1406496252;mircea_popescu;everyone can have problems. 773161;1406496271;mircea_popescu;chetty that day is in 2008ish. 773162;1406496329;decimation;I'm not sure that usg is capable of keeping the deaths of its employees secret 773163;1406496355;*;asciilifeform pictures the 'black swan' gotcha butthurt when home desktop narcosynthesis makes the whole subject academic. 773164;1406496362;mircea_popescu;decimation really ? 773165;1406496401;decimation;someone, somewhere misses the deceased, presumably 773166;1406496408;mircea_popescu;can you name the people that were butchered in the benghazi pile of lol ? 773167;1406496414;chetty;decimation, I used to think that, but they dont need to keep secrets, just keep waving flags at more important stuff 773168;1406496419;mircea_popescu;obviously their mom knows. so what if she does ? 773169;1406496425;asciilifeform;the people that were butchered in the benghazi pile of lol << is diametric awake? 773170;1406496458;asciilifeform;i vaguely recall his tale, that one of the casualties was on irc, chronicling his last hours 773171;1406496463;mircea_popescu;and that was an embassy. not "accidental death" walking down the street. 773172;1406496500;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform one of the casualties was a major part of something awful (ie, where teh libertard community resides. it's a sort of anti-bitcoin, that thing) 773173;1406496510;asciilifeform;aha 773174;1406496511;decimation;I thought he was playing eve online 773175;1406496523;mircea_popescu;decimation yes, same one. but that's just one. 773176;1406496570;asciilifeform;if i recall, last words were 'enemy is at the gates. they've opened fire, oh shi....' 773177;1406496602;mircea_popescu;now, how many people did cia lose there ? "presumably someone misses them"... well... do you ? 773178;1406496603;mircea_popescu;who does ? 773179;1406496614;decimation;chetty: there's a difference between the media trumpeting a fact and the fact being hidden 773180;1406496626;mircea_popescu;what is the practical difference ? 773181;1406496644;asciilifeform;easy to hide just about any fact from the porcine 'masses' 773182;1406496657;asciilifeform;just keep it off the front page. 773183;1406496665;mircea_popescu;but do this, for your own amusement. compile the list of dead us agents in arizona, new mexico, something, during one year. 773184;1406496668;mircea_popescu;see hwo it reads. 773185;1406496685;decimation;http://www.cbp.gov/about/in-memoriam/memoriam-those-who-died-line-duty 773186;1406496713;mircea_popescu;that's the small part. 773187;1406496717;dub;the good ole' line of dooty 773188;1406496724;mircea_popescu;you want the prosecutors, you want the FBI, you want the state police, etc. 773189;1406496735;mircea_popescu;who shoots fucking customs agents. 773190;1406496739;asciilifeform;now, doesn't it matter whether these corpses became corpses in spite or - or because of - own management? 773191;1406496740;chetty;even stuff that hits the front page is gone with the next headline 773192;1406496772;asciilifeform;i.e. were they plugged because they insisted on following the 'letter of the law' re: their duties, with complicity of their own brass 773193;1406496802;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what matters is relative security. who can prevent whom from messing with their shit. 773194;1406496823;dub;unrealted: to save a world of goolepain, is teh SR codebase online somewhere? 773195;1406496824;mircea_popescu;and, perhaps equally importantlky, who cares more. 773196;1406496834;FabianB;mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/939/world-cup-2014-english-to-net-more-than/ http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/ http://bitbet.us/bet/854/brock-pierce-to-resign-at-btc-foundation/ http://bitbet.us/bet/1003/elizabeth-warren-to-run-for-us-president/ 773197;1406496834;assbot;BitBet - World Cup 2014: English to net more than 6 goals :: 0.39 B (6%) on Yes, 6.41 B (94%) on No | closed 1 month 3 days ago 773198;1406496834;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.37 B (4%) on Yes, 10.09 B (96%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 days | weight: 63`350 (100`000 to 1) 773199;1406496834;assbot;BitBet - Brock Pierce to resign at BTC Foundation :: 0.3 B (3%) on Yes, 10.08 B (97%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 hours | weight: 29`770 (100`000 to 1) 773200;1406496834;assbot;BitBet - Elizabeth Warren to run for US President :: 0.01 B (1%) on Yes, 1.09 B (99%) on No | closing in 4 months 1 week| weight: 99`071 (100`000 to 1) 773201;1406496834;decimation;http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2014?ref=sidebar 773202;1406496835;assbot;Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2014 773203;1406496836;mircea_popescu;dub not afak. 773204;1406496845;asciilifeform;as i understand, the customs inspectors who understand that certain trucks are not to be fucked with, certain hours they should take a smoke break and look away, etc. - are still alive. 773205;1406496879;mircea_popescu;FabianB it is possible this is a reflection of the actual odds. 773206;1406496880;mircea_popescu;or no ? 773207;1406496888;FabianB;mircea_popescu: sure 773208;1406496893;mircea_popescu;i mean warren isn;'t getting a nomination for instance. 773209;1406496925;chetty;doesnt jet get into the primaries count? Warren will be there I bet 773210;1406496942;mircea_popescu;i think she has to actually be in the race 773211;1406496947;mircea_popescu;no idea, haven't read the bet. 773212;1406496974;asciilifeform;the reason why aztlan hypothesis strikes me as weak, is that it is not clear that the mexicans are one-sidedly thrusting unsolicited cock across the border 773213;1406496988;asciilifeform;on the contrary, there is an eager recipient for the cock 773214;1406497021;chetty;usg is a whore 773215;1406497043;decimation;http://www.odmp.org/search?name=&agency=&state=&from=2012&to=2013&cause=Gunfire&filter=all 773216;1406497043;assbot;Search for a Fallen Officer 773217;1406497047;mircea_popescu;jurov incidentally, this reminds me : supposedly people plunked down 5k btc to be locked away in an ethereum address for at least six months, if not more 773218;1406497055;mircea_popescu;from what people have been saying here, they expect it to be a year. 773219;1406497059;asciilifeform;imagine usa were to ban... toilet paper. who would actually profit from the ban being adequately enforced? no one. from lackluster enforcement at every level? everyone. 773220;1406497061;decimation;well, according to that site 78 officers were killed by gunfire across the entire US in 2012-2013 773221;1406497063;mircea_popescu;obviously at this point you're addressing the wrong market :D 773222;1406497081;asciilifeform;what would become of the folks in uniform who insist on following the 'no tp' order to the letter? 773223;1406497083;asciilifeform;problems. 773224;1406497093;decimation;I guess I don't see it, I don't think us gov't agents are dying that often, why bother killing them anyway? 773225;1406497104;mircea_popescu;decimation you know how many people die in romania in a year ? 773226;1406497117;mircea_popescu;(by gunfire) 773227;1406497124;decimation;I suspect fewer per capita 773228;1406497132;asciilifeform;decimation: folks who won't play ball are killed by own side. sometimes via shepherding into 'enemy' line of fire, sometimes directly. 773229;1406497140;mircea_popescu;allow me to blow your mind : a degree of magnitude fewer per capita than US agents. 773230;1406497143;chetty;how about how many bankers, that one is getting interesting. Being a banker is not healthy these days 773231;1406497143;dub;asciilifeform: there's all kinds of upsides to flooding the us with drugs 773232;1406497179;mircea_popescu;in short : it's dangerous fucking work, working for the dying empire. 773233;1406497187;asciilifeform;bankers get nailgunned by their own заградотряд. 773234;1406497195;mircea_popescu;much, much more dangerous than the empire is to the world at large. 773235;1406497197;decimation;I don't think the usg hides this stuff either, it just gets pushed into statistics that no one reads. The usg has a compulsion to account for itself (in its own crazy way) 773236;1406497223;asciilifeform;(russia did not invent заградотряд - rome had it. and whatever rome we get 1000 yrs from now will too) 773237;1406497227;mircea_popescu;in fact, a us agent has better chances of being shot on the job than someone breaking a us law of being sent to jail. 773238;1406497270;decimation;well, considering that in practice nearly everything can be construed as illegal in the us, that's probably true 773239;1406497284;mircea_popescu;well, how's that thought sit with you 773240;1406497310;DreadKnight;Hollywood makes a lot of movies encouraging death in the line of work; patriotism / heroism / martyr bs propaganda / brainwashing 773241;1406497321;decimation;it's true that the dying empire thing isn't such a great deal anymore 773242;1406497342;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/27/inheritance-and-individuation/ 773243;1406497357;mircea_popescu;kinda the point of posts like the von flondor one. people tend to stop and consider their situation. 773244;1406497366;asciilifeform;http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kotsubinsky/12274883/343375/343375_original.jpg 773245;1406497393;asciilifeform;^ 'barrier brigade of nkvd preparing to 'support' soviet fighters - with machine gun blast in the back.' 773246;1406497418;asciilifeform;(re: 'заградотряд') 773247;1406497513;bitcoinpete;man alive you guys wrote a lot in the time it took me to put that blog post together 773248;1406497526;FabianB;mircea_popescu: point wasn't that the odds might not be right, it was that it might make no sense to put even more in the 99% side 773249;1406497527;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete i had the same problem earlier today 773250;1406497556;mircea_popescu;FabianB well thatr's only a point if the odds aren't right. if they're right, doubling the 99% side will yield a doubling of the 1% side. 773251;1406497566;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i thought i could do both at the same time but… not even close. sundays are usually lighter 773252;1406497587;FabianB;mircea_popescu: only if that's more than the fees 773253;1406497598;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete sundays aren't what they used to be anymore. 773254;1406497612;mircea_popescu;FabianB yeah ok, 99% not a good example for sure, yes. 773255;1406497634;mircea_popescu;but the only two actually over 10 btc bets are also more like 96-97% 773256;1406497637;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: yup, going back to sabbath on saturdays 773257;1406497642;decimation;same thing happened in colorado in 1914 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre 773258;1406497642;assbot;Ludlow Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 773259;1406497681;mircea_popescu;!up copain_reac 773260;1406497714;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-27/runaway-ebola-infected-woman-dies-us-doctor-tests-positive-virus 773261;1406497755;mircea_popescu;decimation fun fact : the deadliest strike in the history of the us bodycount ~= the claimed le bodycount for 2012, in that source of yours. 773262;1406497777;mircea_popescu;which to me seems to grossly underestimate facts, but hey. 773263;1406497794;decimation;well, I was just counting uniformed police + their dogs 773264;1406497803;mircea_popescu;right. 773265;1406497806;decimation;if you include the masses the numbers are probably much higher 773266;1406497807;asciilifeform;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-27/runaway-ebola-infected-woman-dies-us-doctor-tests-positive-virus#comment-5009686 << gold 773267;1406497816;mircea_popescu;no, that's precisel what i mean. 773268;1406497860;decimation;http://www.statista.com/statistics/195331/number-of-murders-in-the-us-by-state/ 773269;1406497861;assbot;• U.S. homicide: number of murders by state 2012 | Statistic 773270;1406497908;mircea_popescu;lol isn't chicago doing 40 a weekend by now ? 773271;1406497912;asciilifeform;https://sites.google.com/site/bioterrorbible/dead-scientists 773272;1406497914;assbot;DEAD SCIENTISTS - BioTerrorBible.com 773273;1406497991;asciilifeform;>> if tired of living, consider becoming a banker or biowarfare specialist. 773274;1406498004;decimation;or you could volunteer for an ebola clinic 773275;1406498010;decimation;I wouldn't recommend taking your family 773276;1406498048;asciilifeform;nah, that's just plain 'professional hazard' - like coal mining. 773277;1406498061;asciilifeform;vs. fields where the ultimate professional accolade is a silenced bullet 773278;1406498068;asciilifeform;the 'lead nobel prize' 773279;1406498072;mircea_popescu;lol 773280;1406498089;decimation;as moldbug points out, most folks want to be published in the 'grey lady' 773281;1406498093;decimation;that's one way to do I guess 773282;1406498254;asciilifeform;grand prize - you get to sew yourself into a sack and drown in bathtub. runner up - bullet. bronze medal - car crash. 773283;1406498269;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/4fd12808296bde17c577a0cff94187da/tumblr_mvnrcpiXAa1qlne6uo1_500.jpg 773284;1406498291;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: lol! 773285;1406498302;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ОМОН 773286;1406498306;mircea_popescu;hehehe 773287;1406498384;asciilifeform;incidentally, this scene could very well be the genuine article. post-'90s russian police routinely search fleshwallets. 773288;1406498716;bitcoinpete;i irlloled when someone dropped "ham wallet" the other day. 773289;1406498731;bitcoinpete;goddam imagery of that 773290;1406498832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00080453 = 10.7405 BTC [+] {2} 773291;1406498997;bitcoinpete;DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, oh, La Forge, the black guy with visor << he's coming back to tv soon. as the reading rainbow guy! 773292;1406499005;bitcoinpete;kickstarter and everything lol 773293;1406499046;bitcoinpete;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/readingrainbow/bring-reading-rainbow-back-for-every-child-everywh <<$5.4 mn. oof 773294;1406499048;assbot;Bring Reading Rainbow Back for Every Child, Everywhere! by LeVar Burton & Reading Rainbow — Kickstarter 773295;1406499087;DreadKnight;bitcoinpete, sounds a bit gay hmm, I'm afraid; he showed up a bit in Big Bang Theory, impersonating himself as a washed up actor overall 773296;1406499218;DreadKnight;oh, project seems for a good cause; seen a lot of other celebrities crowd fund retarded, random or selfish crap 773297;1406499329;bitcoinpete;DreadKnight: ya i watched the show as a kid. wasn't terrible or scarring. so better than what's on today i guess 773298;1406499359;DreadKnight;good stuff 773299;1406499374;DreadKnight;though 5 million dollars for a digital app for reading is kinda too much 773300;1406499457;bitcoinpete;DreadKnight: $100k to develop, $5.3mn to market 773301;1406499532;DreadKnight;bitcoinpete, it's still a lot for development, but yeah 773302;1406499547;DreadKnight;he's a bit full of crap even in the video, people jaw dropping at his sight lmao 773303;1406499552;dub;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg8055753#msg8055753 773304;1406499552;assbot;[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] 773305;1406499561;dub;ahh the forum 773306;1406499579;dub;'wahh poopyhead' 773307;1406499622;DreadKnight;little kids don't even know what star trek is overall 773308;1406499624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00080464 = 7.0808 BTC [+] 773309;1406499689;bitcoinpete;dub: lulz 773310;1406499796;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: just because a buncha muricans pretend to be scientists shouldn't sour one on science << but it's so easy to throw out the baby with the bathwater! i've been guilty of this too benkay 773311;1406499811;DreadKnight;seems "la forge" starred in a kid show, lol 773312;1406500057;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: so easy to throw out the baby with the bathwater! << esp. when said water in fact contains no baby, but only some quantity of jizm and menstrually jettisoned eggs 773313;1406500095;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: basically need a nanostrainer 773314;1406500460;bitcoinpete;arighty. logged up and on my way. bon soir! 773315;1406500699;dub;asciilifeform: worked for many species for a lot longer than we've been upright 773316;1406500722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1911 @ 0.00299981 = 5.7326 BTC [+] {7} 773317;1406501833;TheNewDeal;!s wolfram 773318;1406501834;assbot;18 results for 'wolfram' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wolfram 773319;1406502003;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 232 @ 0.003 = 0.696 BTC [+] 773320;1406502835;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/xXdZDhJ.jpg 773321;1406502927;DreadKnight;music. 773322;1406503650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 662 @ 0.002913 = 1.9284 BTC [-] {5} 773323;1406504870;benkay; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-27/runaway-ebola-infected-woman-dies-us-doctor-tests-positive-virus // wowee 773324;1406505227;benkay;"Funerals were initially a major source of transmission. "Relatives sometimes fall, cry on the dead body, wash the body," says Temba Morris, who runs a government health clinic in a remote village of roughly 3,000 people near the epicenter of the Sierra Leone outbreak." 773325;1406505348;benkay;;;later tell bitcoinpete "Fostering a disciplined and inquisitive mind is the greatest gift you can bestow upon your children, which explains why almost no one gets it right." // shit keeps me up at night, man. just last night i was diagramming out a curriculum in natural philosophy. 773326;1406505349;gribble;The operation succeeded. 773327;1406505539;thestringpuller;benkay: my mom is a super teacher, so I was kinda just set. 773328;1406506090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00080427 = 4.5441 BTC [-] 773329;1406506547;BingoBoingo;/nick oglafbot 773330;1406506555;oglafbot;http://oglaf.com/cyprian/ 773331;1406506555;assbot;the Cyprian defence 773332;1406506883;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28423 @ 0.0008032 = 22.8294 BTC [-] {2} 773333;1406506948;benkay;rib bb about new oglaf 773334;1406507391;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-and-regional/missouri/big-corn-crop-little-profit-in-southeast-missouri/article_bfbeedbe-3beb-548f-8cdf-b2580a401f83.html 773335;1406507392;assbot;Big corn crop, little profit in SE Missouri : News 773336;1406507433;kakobrekla;!s vwap 773337;1406507434;assbot;1526 results for 'vwap' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=vwap 773338;1406508164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00080238 = 23.9912 BTC [-] {2} 773339;1406510030;BingoBoingo;!up RebeccaBitcoin 773340;1406510057;BingoBoingo;!up jMyles 773341;1406510061;RebeccaBitcoin;Hi 773342;1406510063;BingoBoingo;!up Anon29486307 773343;1406510069;BingoBoingo;Hello 773344;1406510080;TheNewDeal;oh hai 773345;1406510108;RebeccaBitcoin;Is this where Bitcoin pete hangs out? 773346;1406510125;BingoBoingo;It is indeed 773347;1406510128;kakobrekla;;;seen bitcoinpete 773348;1406510128;gribble;bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 41 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: arighty. logged up and on my way. bon soir! 773349;1406510129;TheNewDeal;well, he's not the only one 773350;1406510137;benkay;who're you, RebeccaBitcoin ? 773351;1406510159;RebeccaBitcoin;I'm Rebecca, from coinforum 773352;1406510170;TheNewDeal;precarious punctuation, benkay? 773353;1406510184;benkay;TheNewDeal: pardon? 773354;1406510208;benkay;RebeccaBitcoin: what brings you by? pete piss someone you love off? 773355;1406510209;RebeccaBitcoin;I was reading Bitcoin Pete's blog and noticed that he frequently chats on irc, and set out to find this elusive place. 773356;1406510234;benkay;welcome, you've found the hotbed of cryptojihadi dissent 773357;1406510249;TheNewDeal;lol 773358;1406510253;RebeccaBitcoin;haha no, I like his blog. He seems to have pissed off the owner of coinforum who's accusing him of making false accusations against Ethereum. 773359;1406510265;benkay;link? 773360;1406510267;RebeccaBitcoin;I on the other hand agree with Pete, and have also been called out on that forum for critisizing 773361;1406510280;TheNewDeal;!s bitcoinpete blog 773362;1406510281;assbot;88 results for 'bitcoinpete blog' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoinpete+blog 773363;1406510286;decimation;you won't find many strong believers in altcoins here 773364;1406510287;RebeccaBitcoin;https://coinforum.ca/discussion/1813/ethereum-sale-has-begun/p2 773365;1406510291;assbot;Ethereum sale has begun - Page 2 - Canada's Bitcoin Community 773366;1406510299;kakobrekla;RebeccaBitcoin do yourself a favor , get in the wot. 773367;1406510304;RebeccaBitcoin;ya, whats that 773368;1406510308;TheNewDeal;http://bitcoinpete.com/ 773369;1406510309;assbot;When Bitcoin Met Pete 773370;1406510328;RebeccaBitcoin;last time I used irc was like 15 years ago 773371;1406510339;TheNewDeal;there's some definitely strong Altcoin believers in here, no? 773372;1406510341;RebeccaBitcoin;actually no 10 years ago 773373;1406510367;Duffer1;strong altcoin trollers maybe :P 773374;1406510380;kakobrekla;RebeccaBitcoin http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation and http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 773375;1406510381;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 773376;1406510381;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 773377;1406510391;TheNewDeal;WOL runs on atc at the moment, doesn't it? 773378;1406510502;decimation;just because you deal in a currency doesn't mean you view it as a savings vehicle 773379;1406510513;benkay;RebeccaBitcoin: can you use GPG? 773380;1406510549;RebeccaBitcoin;I was hoping IRC wasn't going to be as nerdy as it was 10 years ago. Apparently I'm wrong. 773381;1406510566;kakobrekla;nothing to do with irc. 773382;1406510579;RebeccaBitcoin;you get my point 773383;1406510581;RebeccaBitcoin;Anyway, yes I use GPG 773384;1406510615;benkay;k, great. 773385;1406510629;benkay;;;google eregister bitcoin-otc web of trust 773386;1406510630;gribble;GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki: ; Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki: ; Gribble - Bitcoin: 773387;1406510640;RebeccaBitcoin;ya I'll figure it out 773388;1406510652;benkay;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Registration 773389;1406510653;assbot;GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 773390;1406510664;RebeccaBitcoin;in the meantime, feel free to keep authorizing me until I say something too offensive lol 773391;1406510676;benkay;can't really be done in these parts 773392;1406510722;RebeccaBitcoin;like omg Ethereum is so cool... and Vitalik is way cooler than Satoshi 773393;1406510747;benkay;the pimply guy who spreads quantum FUD? real cool. 773394;1406510755;RebeccaBitcoin;yes him 773395;1406510866;kakobrekla;quantum is cool. 773396;1406510875;benkay;ohyou.png 773397;1406510882;benkay;fucking freezing more like it 773398;1406510934;dub;inb4 gotta get bitcoin on friday 773399;1406510951;benkay;friday friday 773400;1406510955;RebeccaBitcoin;When are we going to the moon 773401;1406510962;benkay;;;8ball moon when? 773402;1406510962;gribble;NO! 773403;1406511003;RebeccaBitcoin;hey is gribble a person? 773404;1406511016;kakobrekla;;;8ball is gribble a person? 773405;1406511016;gribble;You know the answer better than I. 773406;1406511020;RebeccaBitcoin;lol 773407;1406511030;RebeccaBitcoin;i'm guessing no ;p 773408;1406511050;kakobrekla;;;8ball is RebeccaBitcoin right? 773409;1406511051;gribble;One would be wise to think so. 773410;1406511055;kakobrekla;lucky. 773411;1406511061;RebeccaBitcoin;i know rite 773412;1406511081;benkay;at least it doesn't have the ?? ??? egg that many 8-ball bots implement 773413;1406511086;*;dub eats baller lentil salad 773414;1406511218;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ 773415;1406511381;RebeccaBitcoin;exciting 773416;1406511406;kakobrekla;o look over 1k 773417;1406511417;kakobrekla;bets accepted. 773418;1406511427;dub;scam 773419;1406511427;benkay;freenode exodus when? 773420;1406511444;dub;wai? 773421;1406511470;benkay;reezuns. 773422;1406511537;benkay;http://mathoverflow.net/questions/26267/where-to-buy-premium-white-chalk-in-the-u-s-like-they-have-at-rims/26274#26274 773423;1406511538;assbot;teaching - Where to buy premium white chalk in the U.S., like they have at RIMS? - MathOverflow 773424;1406511581;RebeccaBitcoin;;;8ball when will bitcoin pete be back? 773425;1406511581;gribble;NO. 773426;1406511601;RebeccaBitcoin;never? 773427;1406511615;kakobrekla;its a binary outcome, not descriptionary 773428;1406511626;kakobrekla;gotta ask the question right. 773429;1406511629;RebeccaBitcoin;my bad 773430;1406511642;benkay;;;8ball will bitcoinpete be back before bitcoin is over 600? 773431;1406511643;gribble;Unlikely. 773432;1406511643;RebeccaBitcoin;;;8ball will Bitcoin pete be back before my account loses its voice priveleges? 773433;1406511643;gribble;You know the answer better than I. 773434;1406511659;RebeccaBitcoin;;;8ball no I don't. You suck. 773435;1406511659;gribble;The answer is certainly yes. 773436;1406511662;kakobrekla;sorry, ternary. 773437;1406511664;RebeccaBitcoin;ok thats more like it 773438;1406511675;kakobrekla;yes, no or fuck off. 773439;1406511703;cazalla;RebeccaBitcoin, coinguy sounds like an idiot 773440;1406511726;RebeccaBitcoin;He's probably a nice guy, but ya, don't know why he gets mad when we attack stuff 773441;1406511747;RebeccaBitcoin;I wanted to praise Bitcoin pete for his his critisisms of Ethereum. And then I wanted to make fun of him for the perma-hard on he has for mircea popescu 773442;1406511773;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2SNZT5F.txt ) 773443;1406511773;kakobrekla;!b 1 773444;1406511798;RebeccaBitcoin;umm k? 773445;1406511803;cazalla;well if you stick around, perhaps you can make use of that hard on 773446;1406511808;RebeccaBitcoin;lol 773447;1406511816;RebeccaBitcoin;what does it mean when I get bashed 773448;1406511838;kakobrekla;;;t 773449;1406511841;gribble;Error: This url is not on the whitelist. 773450;1406511842;kakobrekla;;;topic 773451;1406511842;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 773452;1406511844;benkay;bash.bitcoin-assets.com 773453;1406511880;kakobrekla; Error: This url is not on the whitelist. < how the fuck 773454;1406511892;cazalla;!up RebeccaBitcoin 773455;1406511896;RebeccaBitcoin;yay 773456;1406512096;RebeccaBitcoin;I wonder if I can trade my non-existent Ether prior to the launch 773457;1406512105;RebeccaBitcoin;Kinda like how people were trading gox coins 773458;1406512147;dub;seems to be question of the week 773459;1406512166;dub;HOW DOD I DUMP DIS 773460;1406512176;dub;oops caps, but lol caps 773461;1406512665;BingoBoingo;!up RebeccaBitcoin 773462;1406512696;RebeccaBitcoin;i've registered my name 773463;1406512699;RebeccaBitcoin;now I"m doing the GPG thing 773464;1406512812;mircea_popescu;dub whai r u link tardstalk moderated threads even 773465;1406512817;[]bot;Bet created: "President Obama Impeached before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1007/ 773466;1406512859;dub;dereeted? 773467;1406512913;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, is MPEx avoiding these methods to simplify things and going for predetermined price all the time? http://www.incademy.com/courses/How-the-stock-market-works/Offers-by-tender,-and-other-methods-of-admission/3/1014/10002 773468;1406512914;assbot;Incademy.com : How the stock market works : Offers by tender, and other methods of admission 773469;1406512933;dub;not dereeted, struck me as a hilarious capitulation to truth 773470;1406512940;RebeccaBitcoin;;;eregister RebeccaBitcoin E431 B96E C1B5 BE61 12EE 9A8F 2DE0 3C7C 54AF 3F42 773471;1406512941;gribble;Error: 'E431' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id. 773472;1406512945;mircea_popescu;dub ok i see your point 773473;1406512950;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin who're you ? 773474;1406512990;RebeccaBitcoin;Didn't we already go through that? 773475;1406512999;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight a complicated topic and that's not a particularly relevant source or frame. 773476;1406513005;mircea_popescu;!s RebeccaBitcoin 773477;1406513005;assbot;0 results for 'RebeccaBitcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=RebeccaBitcoin 773478;1406513010;RebeccaBitcoin;lol 773479;1406513011;mircea_popescu;no, apparently we didn't. 773480;1406513035;RebeccaBitcoin;hmm don't think that was supposed to appear publicly lol 773481;1406513036;gribble;Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid. 773482;1406513041;RebeccaBitcoin;;;eregister RebeccaBitcoin 2DE03C7C54AF3F42 773483;1406513046;gribble;Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid. 773484;1406513050;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, erm ok, but I'm trying to learn all the strings besides talking the talk 773485;1406513074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16448 @ 0.00080406 = 13.2252 BTC [+] {2} 773486;1406513086;RebeccaBitcoin;k i'll figure that out later 773487;1406513094;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin if you just put it on the server it may take a coupla hours to propagate. 773488;1406513100;RebeccaBitcoin;where do I put it on the server? 773489;1406513138;RebeccaBitcoin;The instructions mention nothing about putting anything on a server 773490;1406513152;RebeccaBitcoin;I made a GPG key, typed the thing, didn't work 773491;1406513191;RebeccaBitcoin;Anyway to answer your question mircea_popescu, I read Bitcoin Pete's blog. A good portion of it is copy and paste's from here, so I thought I would come on to see what its all about. 773492;1406513217;mircea_popescu;that;s a point. 773493;1406513229;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin you gotta upload your key. 773494;1406513242;RebeccaBitcoin;And to quote myself from earlier: "I wanted to praise Bitcoin pete for his his critisisms of Ethereum. And then I wanted to make fun of him for the perma-hard on he has for mircea popescu " 773495;1406513245;dub;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Creating_a_GPG_key 773496;1406513246;assbot;GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki 773497;1406513272;mircea_popescu;gpg --send-keys 54AF3F42 773498;1406513292;RebeccaBitcoin;gpg --send-keys 54AF3F42 773499;1406513295;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin what if you get a perma-nipple-on for me too ? 773500;1406513299;mircea_popescu;not here silly. in cli. 773501;1406513306;RebeccaBitcoin;in cli? 773502;1406513334;mircea_popescu;command line interface. what os do you use ? 773503;1406513426;RebeccaBitcoin;mac 773504;1406513429;RebeccaBitcoin;OS something 773505;1406513456;DreadKnight;X marks the spot. 773506;1406513506;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin extract your pubkey, dump int by hand in http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/ 773507;1406513506;assbot;pks.ms.mff.cuni.cz OpenPGP Keyservers 773508;1406513517;mircea_popescu;cuni.cz ? srsly ? 773509;1406513539;kakobrekla;benkay assbot fixed 773510;1406513563;RebeccaBitcoin;done 773511;1406513570;RebeccaBitcoin;public key added 773512;1406513575;RebeccaBitcoin;to the cuni.cz thing 773513;1406513578;RebeccaBitcoin;your link didn't work 773514;1406513582;mircea_popescu;cool so give it an hour or two so gribble can see it. 773515;1406513600;RebeccaBitcoin;ok 773516;1406513601;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin are you one of those difficuly jewish young women we read about ? 773517;1406513612;RebeccaBitcoin;lol not jewish 773518;1406513637;RebeccaBitcoin;Irish. Red hair. 773519;1406513666;kakobrekla;dont we already have an irish ? 773520;1406513676;RebeccaBitcoin;i'm in canada 773521;1406513685;RebeccaBitcoin;and born here 773522;1406513699;mircea_popescu;i think we already have an irish yeah 773523;1406513701;mircea_popescu;sorry rebecca. 773524;1406513781;DreadKnight;Noe's arch supposedly had 2 of each kind 773525;1406513793;mircea_popescu;yeah but the other irish is also a girl. 773526;1406513800;DreadKnight;lol, nice 773527;1406513861;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: WOL runs on atc at the moment, doesn't it? << nah btc. 773528;1406513865;mircea_popescu;also has atc tho 773529;1406513912;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin: I was hoping IRC wasn't going to be as nerdy as it was 10 years ago. Apparently I'm wrong. << how the fuck is this place nerdy 773530;1406513929;mircea_popescu;and also, noted the 15 years ago. you don't get to make yourself under 30 again that easily! 773531;1406513931;dub;no emojiis 773532;1406513971;RebeccaBitcoin;haha 773533;1406513974;RebeccaBitcoin;i'm 28 773534;1406513994;mircea_popescu;or 33. 773535;1406513998;mircea_popescu;dub: scam << 773536;1406513999;RebeccaBitcoin;;p 773537;1406514001;DreadKnight;you've been missing out a lot of good stuff since you fled from IRC, RebeccaBitcoin 773538;1406514015;mircea_popescu;yeah. britney died, mj died, 773539;1406514018;mircea_popescu;sid vicious died, 773540;1406514030;mod6;:( 773541;1406514045;mircea_popescu;margaret thatcher got alzheimers, golda meir won the washington state beauty pageant 773542;1406514048;mircea_popescu;(for old horses) 773543;1406514066;RebeccaBitcoin;As for how is this place nerdy: you want me to upload GPG keys, talk to some robot named gribble... and use IRC 773544;1406514079;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema i'll pay for your tits 773545;1406514080;gribble;I'll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Iunie 2014 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 773546;1406514091;mircea_popescu;you can also write hex on your tits for bitcoin. 773547;1406514098;DreadKnight;isn't cli considered one of the most nerdiest things? besides compiling and editing config files... 773548;1406514113;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight not having a gf is considered the most nerdiest thing. 773549;1406514132;DreadKnight;erm xD 773550;1406514143;RebeccaBitcoin;You know who's not a nerd. Vitalik 773551;1406514147;RebeccaBitcoin;hahahaha 773552;1406514153;mircea_popescu;did you snort ? 773553;1406514165;RebeccaBitcoin;Its hard not to when laughing at that pic 773554;1406514173;mircea_popescu;buckteeth ? 773555;1406514187;dub;newbet: buttcoin <$500 by august 773556;1406514204;mircea_popescu;scam. 773557;1406514246;DreadKnight;3 days left, don't see it happen 773558;1406514264;mircea_popescu;;;8ball wouldja hit on RebeccaBitcoin ? 773559;1406514264;gribble;About as likely as pigs flying. 773560;1406514292;RebeccaBitcoin;;p 773561;1406514421;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.000803 = 19.1917 BTC [-] {2} 773562;1406514526;BingoBoingo;!up RebeccaBitcoin 773563;1406514533;RebeccaBitcoin;thankyou 773564;1406514701;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin so what do you do for a living ? 773565;1406514789;RebeccaBitcoin;Micky D's. I started on the fry station, but after about 10 years Ronald promoted me to drive thru. 773566;1406514849;mircea_popescu;you know lieing is a sin. 773567;1406514881;DreadKnight;it was funny though 773568;1406514916;RebeccaBitcoin;Just because I omitted that I also gave him a blow job doesn't mean I lied ;p 773569;1406515046;Duffer1;i think i saw that on pornhub once 773570;1406515055;RebeccaBitcoin;haha 773571;1406515070;DreadKnight;a dude blowing another dude? gay 773572;1406515089;RebeccaBitcoin;I am a web designer 773573;1406515114;kakobrekla;do you have a portfolio online 773574;1406515125;RebeccaBitcoin;no 773575;1406515137;mircea_popescu;(he probably is looking to hire one) 773576;1406515139;kakobrekla;tempted to bash it. 773577;1406515177;RebeccaBitcoin;good plan 773578;1406515196;DreadKnight;you can't be a web designer without portfolio 773579;1406515202;DreadKnight;means starving artist 773580;1406515221;cazalla;or another transgender on disability 773581;1406515222;RebeccaBitcoin;You didn't ask if I have a portfolio. You asked if I have a portfolio online. 773582;1406515258;BingoBoingo;Well, you'd assume the web design portfilo be online... 773583;1406515259;decimation;do you find the kyriarchy oppressive? 773584;1406515275;BingoBoingo;Unless the clients already all replaced the designs 773585;1406515278;DreadKnight;you don't ask a web designer for *online* portfolio, he assumes that 773586;1406515283;RebeccaBitcoin;You would assume that, however I value my clients' privacy. 773587;1406515285;kakobrekla;RebeccaBitcoin clay tablets not much of use. 773588;1406515295;DreadKnight;argh, you beat me to it, BingoBoingo 773589;1406515317;mircea_popescu;<decimation> do you find the kyriarchy oppressive? << should porolly be #b-a motto 773590;1406515330;DreadKnight;RebeccaBitcoin, it's not the issue if you value that crap, the issue is you don't get clients if you don't have one, unless in a few cases 773591;1406515357;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin one'd think people hiring web designers are into publicity rather than privacy. 773592;1406515397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00080051 = 15.0896 BTC [-] 773593;1406515397;RebeccaBitcoin;you might think that 773594;1406515449;DreadKnight;http://www.behindtheblueline.ca/blog/blueline/wp-content/uploads/troll.jpg 773595;1406515484;RebeccaBitcoin;;p 773596;1406515509;kakobrekla;who is the troll? 773597;1406515515;asciilifeform;and who the hell is vitalik? 773598;1406515520;RebeccaBitcoin;hahaha 773599;1406515523;DreadKnight;what is love? 773600;1406515525;RebeccaBitcoin;google images vitalik 773601;1406515543;cazalla;DreadKnight, you would have trolls starve? 773602;1406515548;kakobrekla;asci the brains behind etherum 773603;1406515559;asciilifeform;aha him 773604;1406515563;DreadKnight;cazalla, no :( such artwork 773605;1406515582;asciilifeform;thiel grant fellow 773606;1406515589;RebeccaBitcoin;the true brains behind ethereum is whoever conned people into handing over 7000 bitcoin 773607;1406515612;cazalla;RebeccaBitcoin, you bought some though 773608;1406515618;asciilifeform;7000 - that's grandmaster level chumpatronics 773609;1406515641;RebeccaBitcoin;I did, sadly before I saw mircea's 5000 ether offer 773610;1406515675;cazalla;double down 773611;1406515697;decimation;ascii it seems this scheme is designed to recruit chumps to run the chumpatron 773612;1406515710;kakobrekla;just wait until she realizes portfolio should be put online 773613;1406515723;asciilifeform;decimation: as with any professional-grade chumpatronic circuit. 773614;1406515740;DreadKnight;kakobrekla, haha, that would be progress 773615;1406515767;RebeccaBitcoin;I think there is a good chance I'll be able to flip it, like most scamcoins 773616;1406515783;kakobrekla;yeah find the next sucker. 773617;1406515790;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform derp who did "bitcoin magazine" copyediting for a short interval right after it was stolen from its previous owners by a bitpay-led alliance 773618;1406515793;RebeccaBitcoin;and no dickbrains, my portfolio is intentionally not online 773619;1406515807;mircea_popescu;then as that sunk moved on to bizarre shilling of quantum computing and assorting other scams 773620;1406515809;DreadKnight;"scamcoin" wonder if there would be people actually buying such a coin xD 773621;1406515811;mircea_popescu;now doing eth. 773622;1406515834;asciilifeform;wait he's the one with the grover's algo piece, isn't he 773623;1406515838;kakobrekla;do i get to see the clay tablets if i come for a visit? 773624;1406515840;mircea_popescu;otherwise, teenager with no education, no value and no prospects entertaining delusions of self importance. the andreoderpulous school of nothing. 773625;1406515855;RebeccaBitcoin;sure 773626;1406515894;RebeccaBitcoin;Education is overrated 773627;1406515906;RebeccaBitcoin;especially in north america 773628;1406515936;kakobrekla;sez bagholder. 773629;1406515936;DreadKnight;America likes to train slaves and tell them they're free 773630;1406515972;DreadKnight;either as a college graduate with huge debts or being in jail 773631;1406515975;asciilifeform;RebeccaBitcoin: you're a friend of vitalik b.? i'm rather curious to learn how to simulate grover's algo on a classical cpu. 773632;1406515991;DreadKnight;or part of Uncle Sam 773633;1406516007;RebeccaBitcoin;asci I think you've misread my comments about him 773634;1406516018;asciilifeform;in polynomial time. 773635;1406516036;asciilifeform;so, not a friend ? 773636;1406516043;RebeccaBitcoin;never met him in person 773637;1406516048;RebeccaBitcoin;and no, not a friend 773638;1406516127;RebeccaBitcoin;time to try this gribble crap again 773639;1406516128;RebeccaBitcoin;;;eregister RebeccaBitcoin 2DE03C7C54AF3F42 773640;1406516131;gribble;Request successful for user RebeccaBitcoin, hostmask RebeccaBitcoin!461a7a92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.26.122.146. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2DE03C7C54AF3F42 773641;1406516134;RebeccaBitcoin;omg it worked 773642;1406516164;asciilifeform;;;rate RebeccaBitcoin 1 new blood 773643;1406516164;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 773644;1406516175;RebeccaBitcoin;wait 773645;1406516177;RebeccaBitcoin;not fully done yet 773646;1406516190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00080001 = 25.6403 BTC [-] {2} 773647;1406516209;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin i knew a chick that did the same "flipping" thing. her : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/internet-story/ 773648;1406516212;assbot;Internet story pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 773649;1406516217;mircea_popescu;it... didn't work out so well on the mid term. 773650;1406516379;asciilifeform;!up RebeccaBitcoin 773651;1406516383;decimation;asciilifeform: you might find this site interesting: http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&page_0=30 < poor-man's global lightning strike detection network 773652;1406516383;assbot;Blitzortung.org – lightning map USA, Canada – thunderstorms and lightning strikes 773653;1406516443;asciilifeform;decimation: interesting in so far as the detector (http://www.blitzortung.org/Webpages/index.php?lang=en&page=2) could be configured instead to detect... other things 773654;1406516474;asciilifeform;a 'crowd' spectrum analyzer, that would be something to write home about. 773655;1406516501;decimation;yeah, I agree. there are several designs for different bearing detection systems 773656;1406516515;asciilifeform;FedsAroundMe. 773657;1406516522;RebeccaBitcoin;;;everify [freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971] 773658;1406516523;gribble;Error: "freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971" is not a valid command. 773659;1406516535;RebeccaBitcoin;;;everify [freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971 773660;1406516536;gribble;Error: Missing "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 773661;1406516544;RebeccaBitcoin;;;everify [freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971] 773662;1406516544;asciilifeform;RebeccaBitcoin: snip off the squarebrackets 773663;1406516544;gribble;Error: "freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971" is not a valid command. 773664;1406516549;RebeccaBitcoin;ok 773665;1406516551;asciilifeform;no quotes 773666;1406516555;RebeccaBitcoin;;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c42ebf3f844a223bcb30c60226a8a78d0376fd0a48477175e41e4971 773667;1406516556;decimation;if you spend any time listening to police radios (those that aren't encrypted - which is most these days) you realize that the cops use regular mobile phones for the most sensitive stuff 773668;1406516556;gribble;Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user RebeccaBitcoin with key 2DE03C7C54AF3F42 773669;1406516558;RebeccaBitcoin;yay 773670;1406516569;asciilifeform;;;rate RebeccaBitcoin 1 new blood 773671;1406516571;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RebeccaBitcoin has been recorded. 773672;1406516588;RebeccaBitcoin;awesome, so I can chat now without having to as assbot for permission? 773673;1406516594;RebeccaBitcoin;ask* 773674;1406516594;asciilifeform;aye 773675;1406516605;Duffer1;auth then msg assbot !up 773676;1406516609;RebeccaBitcoin;cool 773677;1406516628;Duffer1;msg gribble to auth btw :P 773678;1406516647;RebeccaBitcoin;I alraedy did that didn't i 773679;1406516659;RebeccaBitcoin;you mean each time I log in 773680;1406516667;Duffer1;right 773681;1406516674;asciilifeform;decimation: radio sets that use 'trunking' sometimes transmit even when no one is speaking. so you can still 'feds-around-me.' 773682;1406516731;decimation;yeah being able to de-multiplex the trunking system while simultaneously calculating bearings would not be a simple task 773683;1406516744;RebeccaBitcoin;I have a question for mircea 773684;1406516749;asciilifeform;decimation: no need to demultiplex. just look for who is putting out rf 773685;1406516757;asciilifeform;at the officially allocated frequencies 773686;1406516758;asciilifeform;and where. 773687;1406516760;Duffer1;paging mircea_popescu to the desk 773688;1406516762;RebeccaBitcoin;do you ever worry that the US will try to arrest you, with the help of Romania, for your "illegal securities" with magical internet money? 773689;1406516781;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 hm ? 773690;1406516791;Duffer1;<RebeccaBitcoin> I have a question for mircea 773691;1406516799;mircea_popescu;RebeccaBitcoin no. 773692;1406516809;RebeccaBitcoin;really? Because they have arrested people in romania before, with the help of romania 773693;1406516817;RebeccaBitcoin;For credit card fraud and things 773694;1406516823;mircea_popescu;my lot is not to worry, my lot is to preemptive strike. 773695;1406516831;decimation;well for that you can use the old-school "sniffer": http://www.optoelectronics.com/#!spectrum-scout/cpvx 773696;1406516856;asciilifeform;decimation: idea was, a distributed network thereof. 773697;1406516877;asciilifeform;decimation: like that lightning strike map. 773698;1406516883;mircea_popescu;and speaking of eastern yurp, http://31.media.tumblr.com/626f978651d94de22ffc020339f1bf42/tumblr_mlk3amzTnP1qlne6uo1_500.jpg 773699;1406516900;decimation;yeah that's an interesting idea, I think it would take alot of work to filter out stuff not-of-interest 773700;1406516938;asciilifeform;decimation: no need to filter anything at the receiver end. just plot the whole range of the scanner node. 773701;1406516979;decimation;like the amplitude of the frequency spectrum across a wide band? 773702;1406517000;asciilifeform;correct. 773703;1406517044;decimation;yeah it would be neat to have a distributed, public network of that kind of thing. 773704;1406517069;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 773705;1406517070;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.73, Best ask: 585.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 585.03, 24 hour volume: 3674.72868346, 24 hour low: 584.32, 24 hour high: 599.4, 24 hour vwap: 592.022325397 773706;1406517163;decimation;poor-man's substitute: single channel shortwave receivers available on-demand: http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/ and http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ 773707;1406517163;assbot;GlobalTuners - On-line remotely controlled tuners 773708;1406517163;assbot;Wide-band WebSDR in JO32KF 773709;1406517217;decimation;the twente one has your live spectrogram 773710;1406517230;RebeccaBitcoin;cool its crashing 773711;1406517266;decimation;heh you can hear the "buzzer" on 4.625 MHz 773712;1406517354;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76 773713;1406517354;assbot;UVB-76 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 773714;1406517661;asciilifeform;decimation: http://priyom.org/military-stations/russia/monolyth-messages-description.aspx 773715;1406517661;assbot;Monolyth messages description Priyom.org Number Stations Research 773716;1406517686;asciilifeform;russia traditionally uses traditional dead tree codebooks. 773717;1406517700;asciilifeform;as in, 19th c. state of the art. 773718;1406517763;asciilifeform;(this is not news) 773719;1406517850;decimation;interesting, thanks for the link. Here's some unusual UVB-76 transmissions you can probably understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKEEDQzt7c 773720;1406517850;assbot;UVB-76 Buzzer new message format 2013-24-26january mystery - YouTube 773721;1406518083;asciilifeform;decimation: nothing useful to understand - military alphabet plus numeric codes. 773722;1406518097;asciilifeform;aka english 'whiskey, tango, foxtrot' etc 773723;1406518129;decimation;interesting 773724;1406518185;asciilifeform;without the codebook, it's just random crud. 773725;1406518186;mircea_popescu;russians at least have the common sense to use erika 773726;1406518192;mircea_popescu;and other girls names 773727;1406518271;decimation;In the ww-ii era the US used mostly first names instead of the nato alphabet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Army/Navy_Phonetic_Alphabet 773728;1406518271;assbot;Joint Army/Navy Phonetic Alphabet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 773729;1406518300;asciilifeform;decimation: funnily that's the one that was taught to me 773730;1406518303;decimation;interestingly, all male names though... 773731;1406518372;decimation;the international standard is now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet 773732;1406518373;assbot;NATO phonetic alphabet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 773733;1406518399;RebeccaBitcoin;why did I need to do the !up thing again 773734;1406518404;RebeccaBitcoin;I thought you guys vouched for me or whatever 773735;1406518425;decimation;if you listen to the amateur radio bands using that uni. of twente receiver you will hear plenty of "non-standard" phoentics being used 773736;1406518425;asciilifeform;RebeccaBitcoin: we all have to self-up periodically 773737;1406518505;Duffer1;when an authed person !up someone it only lasts 30mins, once you're authed you can !up yourself 773738;1406518525;Duffer1;it lasts much longer 773739;1406518534;RebeccaBitcoin;ah 773740;1406518541;RebeccaBitcoin;fancy 773741;1406518580;decimation;interestingly a ham radio operator knew about the invasion of the falklands before HMG knew what was going on: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514011.stm 773742;1406518580;assbot;BBC NEWS | UK | How BBC man scooped invasion news 773743;1406519728;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00080241 = 20.301 BTC [+] 773744;1406519885;benkay;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=826_1406461813 773745;1406519886;assbot;LiveLeak.com - this is what happens when money loses its value 773746;1406520106;DreadKnight;guess not many banks and ATM's in that country 773747;1406520338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00080221 = 15.1618 BTC [-] {2} 773748;1406520641;benkay;logistics nightmare 773749;1406520826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72450 @ 0.0008053 = 58.344 BTC [+] {4} 773750;1406520869;DreadKnight;probably fun to make it rain since they're not worth much; kinda like it happens in #dogecoin channel 773751;1406521162;mircea_popescu;lol if one googles for "neobee antonopoulous" this is one of the things that pop up : http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F733c20c6aa6e43421e8082b4cd9ee446%2Ftumblr_mj8quhsSxT1s7eb1eo1_500.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Flog.bitcoin-assets.com%2F%3Fdate%3D01-04-2014&h=667&w=500&tbnid=7h5x_cFqNLlrMM%3A&zoom=1&docid=v8G8QDFeiwK43M&ei=Gc_VU7nbJ_PesAS7o4G4Bw&tbm=isch&ved=0CFsQMyhTMFM4ZA&iact=rc 773752;1406521162;assbot;Google Image Result for http://31.media.tumblr.com/733c20c6aa6e43421e8082b4cd9ee446/tumblr_mj8quhsSxT1s7eb1eo1_500.jpg 773753;1406521163;mircea_popescu;&uact=3&dur=860&page=12&start=174&ndsp=15 773754;1406521163;gribble;Error: "uact=3&dur=860&page=12&start=174&ndsp=15" is not a valid command. 773755;1406521176;mircea_popescu;i would guess it's an allegory of the investors ? 773756;1406521251;dub;I think one will find one has to already have googled for a lot of bent over skank 773757;1406521321;dub;did andreas have something to do with neobee? 773758;1406521341;mircea_popescu;dub yes, he pumped it. 773759;1406521353;mircea_popescu;which is how a lot of derps ended up burned. 773760;1406521374;dub;tbh I dont know what neobee was, it was all over before I bothered to look 773761;1406521391;benkay;felt like it was going on forever 773762;1406521414;dub;gave all the ipo money to scammers for safekeeping seemed to be the gist 773763;1406521546;mircea_popescu;the pump was never ceasing, at the time 773764;1406521551;mircea_popescu;a lot like ethereum, actually. 773765;1406521574;mircea_popescu;all the self=appointed "community" derps putting on their best airs of "professionalism" and "real world bla bla" 773766;1406521600;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/ << representative. 773767;1406521602;assbot;These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 773768;1406521924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 702 @ 0.00300782 = 2.1115 BTC [+] {4} 773769;1406522264;mircea_popescu;!up bud 773770;1406522513;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/5689cdc1768b7c5781c7ae7932b88fd4/tumblr_mrqw2qQMxQ1s23gt0o1_500.jpg and a study in eastern european architecture 773771;1406522516;mircea_popescu;and other things 773772;1406522717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1749799 = 0.5249 BTC [+] 773773;1406522778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.17498247 = 1.3999 BTC [+] {2} 773774;1406522963;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/advertising-sucks-an-illustrated-narrative/ 773775;1406523240;dub;why comics? 773776;1406523271;benkay;;;isitdown mediacru.sh 773777;1406523272;gribble;mediacru.sh is up 773778;1406523435;dub;I guess the comics you mention are primarily for aspies and shutins 773779;1406523445;dub;which is your market 773780;1406523501;dub;I'd posit wol is even too dull for that set 773781;1406523511;dub;you need to go after actual autists and serial killers 773782;1406523576;benkay;I wonder where BingoBoingo fits into this 773783;1406523669;dub;not sure there exists enough ritalin to hold your average comic consumbers attention throughout a wol round 773784;1406523700;BingoBoingo;dub: minigames are a thing 773785;1406523770;dub;maybe the barrier is the whole cryptocurrency thing 773786;1406523998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1749998 = 0.875 BTC [+] {3} 773787;1406524245;dub;I know a couple of people who read all of the sites you mentioned, highly intelligent absolutely bone idle, really interested in bitcoin until the conversation is over 773788;1406524364;mircea_popescu;dub> I guess the comics you mention are primarily for aspies and shutins << wol right ? 773789;1406524406;dub;keep reading 773790;1406524444;xmj;aspie commics? 773791;1406524445;xmj;where? 773792;1406524465;benkay;DreadKnight: captcha is broken on ancientbeast 773793;1406524486;mircea_popescu;http://www.usdebtclock.org/ >>> omg look at the source for that page 773794;1406524487;assbot;U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time 773795;1406524491;mircea_popescu;who the fuck comes up with all this inanity 773796;1406524532;xmj;dub: ^^ 773797;1406524571;dub;xmj: http://trilema.com/2014/advertising-sucks-an-illustrated-narrative/ 773798;1406524574;assbot;Advertising sucks, an illustrated narrative pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 773799;1406524580;benkay;asp? 773800;1406524593;mircea_popescu;dub no i meant it ironically. "it's for wot, right ?" 773801;1406524601;mircea_popescu;bah. wol* 773802;1406524613;mircea_popescu;of fucking course comic fiends are a good fit. 773803;1406524628;xmj;dub: tyvm 773804;1406524675;cazalla;sif not use 1 weird tip for advertising 773805;1406524685;dub;outside of the therapist chair, this demographic never sits still long enough to obtain bitcoin 773806;1406524733;xmj;ugh 773807;1406524736;xmj;gotta hate those 773808;1406524737;dub;perhaps besides dedicated criminals like Ukyo or usagi 773809;1406524741;mircea_popescu;at least they got govt checks coming in. 773810;1406524742;benkay;need to be advertising on last psychiatrist 773811;1406524748;mircea_popescu;unlike the rest of the reddit population 773812;1406524754;benkay;maybe for a different thing, though. 773813;1406524761;mircea_popescu;cazalla hm ? 773814;1406524775;xmj;benkay: what about good looking loser and delicious tacos 773815;1406524810;benkay;chateau heartiste maybe 773816;1406524819;benkay;nobody'll run ads on that guy's site. 773817;1406524825;cazalla;mircea_popescu, you've never seen the 1 weird tip adverts? 773818;1406524827;mircea_popescu;i would if he came here. 773819;1406524836;mircea_popescu;cazalla nope. i live an ad free existence 773820;1406524838;mircea_popescu;add free, too. 773821;1406524876;cazalla;likewise but it was one of the most popular campaigns used to slang acai berries 773822;1406524884;mircea_popescu;so how does it work ? 773823;1406524900;cazalla;https://www.google.com/search?q=1+weird+tip&client=ubuntu&hs=xoz&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=2t3VU6b_HYX48QWtj4L4Bg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1855&bih=983 773824;1406524901;assbot;1 weird tip - Google-Suche 773825;1406524913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00080447 = 11.0615 BTC [-] 773826;1406524914;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/82d3d46722e6eecdf8a69fb1113e684e/tumblr_mihyzfyH2u1qa258ao1_500.jpg << looking at life from a redneck wife's perspective. 773827;1406524932;cazalla;works great for weight loss, weight gain 773828;1406524940;bitcoinpete;looks like i missed RebeccaBitcoin... 773829;1406524946;mircea_popescu;that thing's so idiotic omfg. 773830;1406524947;bitcoinpete;glad to see she dropped by 773831;1406524965;cazalla;i don't think anything would work well, at least that i can think of, for bitcoin ventures 773832;1406525081;mircea_popescu;right in there with the "find out this secret that makes angry" and "it's not a joke you've really won" 773833;1406525103;mircea_popescu;the govt should be using taxpayer funds to lure idiots with this type of ads and then rape and kill them. 773834;1406525108;mircea_popescu;i'd pay taxes for that. 773835;1406525134;bitcoinpete;;;later tell RebeccaBitcoin what can i say? it's hard to hide this much tenting. hope to catch you next time :) 773836;1406525134;cazalla;why not use facebook and narrow down to a demographic that likes bitcoin, neobee, andreas etc 773837;1406525134;gribble;The operation succeeded. 773838;1406525138;dub;you want to market WoL to people whose hobby is wearing other peoples skin 773839;1406525155;cazalla;1 weird tip that doubled my bitcoin 773840;1406525166;mircea_popescu;The accumulated number of impressions the number of times it has flashed by someone on the Internet over the past 18 months runs into the tens of billions, estimates Steve Wernikoff, a government lawyer who has tracked it. Its just a tremendous amount. << i dunno about "tens of billions". i got millions in mere days. 773841;1406525168;bitcoinpete;dub lmao 773842;1406525171;mircea_popescu;moar like hundreds of trillions amirite. 773843;1406525192;mircea_popescu;cazalla i have yet to hear of a facebook campaign that made money. 773844;1406525197;mircea_popescu;outside of spambots, which meh. 773845;1406525253;cazalla;i know someone but it involved him creating fake ad agencies in order to do it all on credit and then left facebook hanging 773846;1406525267;cazalla;it all caught up with him a few months ago though 773847;1406525275;benkay;they went after him? 773848;1406525283;benkay;must be getting desperate for revenooooz 773849;1406525285;bitcoinpete;benkay: i'd like to see this diagram someday… y'know your blog would've been a good place for such a thing 773850;1406525290;cazalla;benkay, yep 773851;1406525299;benkay;bitcoinpete: which diagram? 773852;1406525314;benkay;oh oh natphil 773853;1406525316;cazalla;benkay, http://nypost.com/2014/05/22/wolf-of-wall-street-wannabe-allegedly-dupes-facebook-into-ad-schemes/ 773854;1406525316;assbot;‘Wolf of Wall Street’ wannabe ‘duped Facebook into ad scheme’ | New York Post 773855;1406525316;bitcoinpete;benkay but then you had to go and fucking kill it. shit costs you pennies! 773856;1406525330;benkay;bitcoinpete: it costs me far more then pennies of time. 773857;1406525335;bitcoinpete;benkay: yup. dat natural, foresty philosophy 773858;1406525345;bitcoinpete;but you're alreayd making the shit 773859;1406525348;benkay;bitcoinpete: it'll be back eventually. in the middle of some hectic shit though. 773860;1406525350;bitcoinpete;already* 773861;1406525354;bitcoinpete;in this case at least 773862;1406525361;benkay;yeah yeah. 773863;1406525379;benkay;only thing worse than a blog nobody reads is taking such down and having people pester you about it. 773864;1406525396;bitcoinpete;welcome to the 7th layer of hell 773865;1406525436;bitcoinpete;nao make sure to include dante in your kiddie diagram 773866;1406525450;benkay;having been through the whole m.e. curriculum helps with designing word problems 773867;1406525465;mircea_popescu;<benkay> only thing worse than a blog nobody reads is taking such down and having people pester you about it. << apparently someone read it. 773868;1406525477;benkay;mircea_popescu: that'd be the subtext, yeah 773869;1406525483;benkay;being wrong about things 773870;1406525488;bitcoinpete;right, these blogs are catering to the 1%, neh? 773871;1406525501;bitcoinpete;10 hits is something 773872;1406525505;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/0ea3d1b3dcd6561e5445a69c0c2ef3a4/tumblr_mt2jam2vbt1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << cowgirls and indian...girls. 773873;1406525517;benkay;i think people actually sent me bitcoin to my bitbet referral addr too, bitcoin 773874;1406525520;benkay;i think people actually sent me bitcoin to my bitbet referral addr too, bitcoinpete 773875;1406525529;benkay;man you ppl gotta stop it with bitcointhis and bitcointhat 773876;1406525543;mircea_popescu;<bitcoinpete> 10 hits is something << ironically, if my wol comic ad campaign hit on one me that then plonked a large bitcoin stash down it'd have been worth it. 773877;1406525572;cazalla;i don't trust people who use bitcointhis, bitcointhat for names, bitcoinpete withstanding 773878;1406525578;mircea_popescu;yeah benkay has a point. can you be omething else other than bitcoinpete, bitcoinpete ? you're driving others into sin, like rebecca the jewish irish 773879;1406525604;bitcoinpete;she should be bitcoinbecky anyways 773880;1406525610;mircea_popescu;jesus. 773881;1406525623;bitcoinpete;k fine fuck 773882;1406525631;dub;if he doesnt use it somone else will 773883;1406525651;mircea_popescu;why not just be petedushe ? 773884;1406525663;bitcoinpete;drop teh e 773885;1406525668;bitcoinpete;perhaps 773886;1406525669;mircea_popescu;much better brand than any derivative of a trademark you don't own/ 773887;1406525675;bitcoinpete;or just pdush 773888;1406525676;mircea_popescu;ptdsh ? 773889;1406525693;bitcoinpete;pdoosh ? 773890;1406525719;*;mircea_popescu is a staunch believer in the firstname 773891;1406525720;benkay;pdouche 773892;1406525727;mircea_popescu;_lastname school of personal branding. 773893;1406525727;bitcoinpete;but since when is driving others into sin so… bad? 773894;1406525745;bitcoinpete;peter_dushenski… 773895;1406525751;bitcoinpete;but then i need a new blog name 773896;1406525757;cazalla;!up vancleef 773897;1406525758;mircea_popescu;better soon than late. 773898;1406525762;bitcoinpete;which seems like a shame. 773899;1406525766;VanCleef;hey guys 773900;1406525768;bitcoinpete;myeah 773901;1406525771;VanCleef;thanks for the up 773902;1406525776;VanCleef;quick question 773903;1406525786;bitcoinpete;heya VanCleef 773904;1406525819;VanCleef;you know how people post up their company on the securities section of bitcointalk. When writing one of these IPO's is there a format you should follow? 773905;1406525838;dub;lol 773906;1406525846;mircea_popescu;"I know, I know, I don't have any real power, but maybe someday a man will give me some." 773907;1406525851;mircea_popescu;fucking hell tlp... HOW ? 773908;1406525864;mircea_popescu;there's this romanian joke about the man who begged god for to win at the lottery 773909;1406525866;Duffer1;imlegit send me m0nie plx kthnx 773910;1406525870;mircea_popescu;every day morning noo and night he begged 773911;1406525876;VanCleef;could anyone direct me to the right direction? 773912;1406525880;mircea_popescu;thirty years down the road, a booming voice is heard 773913;1406525885;mircea_popescu;WOULD YOU BUY A FUCKING TICKET 773914;1406525921;mircea_popescu;VanCleef btctalk is kinda looked down upon as a shitty venue 773915;1406525933;VanCleef;yeh that's true 773916;1406525943;VanCleef;but cyptostocks and havelock are no better 773917;1406525947;mircea_popescu;besides which, nobody here has any experience doing what you're asking for, excep perhaps for mpoe-pr and tat, and neither of them take the forum seriously enough to consider 773918;1406525962;benkay;what are you listing, VanCleef ? 773919;1406525966;benkay;"listing" 773920;1406525976;VanCleef;ahh ok i guess i'll just look around at how other people have done it and sort of based it on that 773921;1406526011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00080636 = 21.8524 BTC [+] {3} 773922;1406526016;mircea_popescu;you can start with s.limbs 773923;1406526054;benkay;http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/220/2/e/the_witch_s_house___cut_off_the_teddy_bear_s_limbs_by_jedediah40_5d-d6h9znw.jpg // dunno why but that came up when googling for "s.limbs" 773924;1406526095;mircea_popescu;perhaps for the obvious reason : that comic fandoms are the right venue ? 773925;1406526127;dub;math and loli 773926;1406526157;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, since you mentioned s.limbs, where do I see info about it? http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.LIMBS does nothing; 773927;1406526157;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 773928;1406526478;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: seeing how there’s eleven million Bitcoins and seven billion people << 13 mn btc. get with teh times 773929;1406526583;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: and seriously, on a scale of 1-10, how fucking necessary is this name change thing? cuz it sorta unwinds 6 months of input, which, granted could be worse. but before i take this shit to heart and come up with something new… 773930;1406526640;benkay;bitcoinpete: what, you ask all the people who've rated you to rate your new id, and rate the new id from the old id with a 10 or something, call it a day 773931;1406526662;benkay;you effectively have a trust chain stretching back to your first rating, even though the nick's different and may have different ratings. 773932;1406526682;benkay;but bitcoin* is kinda short on the creativity 773933;1406526693;bitcoinpete;benkay: fair enough. and i've been considering it privately… just haven't come up with a better url as much as anything 773934;1406526769;benkay;ask TheNewDeal how painful it was - i recall it being more or less settled within a week 773935;1406526772;dub;on a scale of 1 to fuck off 1'd say fuck off 773936;1406526802;DreadKnight;baconpete 773937;1406526837;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/349291W.txt ) 773938;1406526837;benkay;!b 1 773939;1406526839;VanCleef;thanks guys :) 773940;1406526941;bitcoinpete;DreadKnight: not bad at all. though to make it more canadian: maplebaconpete 773941;1406526970;benkay;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=198 773942;1406526970;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 773943;1406526972;dub;moosecockpete 773944;1406526978;benkay;that's not bad 773945;1406526982;bitcoinpete;dub: now there's a point 773946;1406527007;bitcoinpete;those broads at the stampede weren't an accident ;) 773947;1406527202;DreadKnight;bitcoinpete, I got experience with naming stuff; wouldn't mind being your godfather as well 773948;1406527255;bitcoinpete;DreadKnight: my godfather… ? 773949;1406527339;DreadKnight;some of the godfathers around add a name to the newborn as well, bitcoinpete 773950;1406527348;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight try the search. 773951;1406527369;bitcoinpete;hao about… petelosophy 773952;1406527379;DreadKnight;!s s.limbo 773953;1406527379;assbot;0 results for 's.limbo' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=s.limbo 773954;1406527385;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete not something new per se. most alternatives'd be worse. 773955;1406527437;DreadKnight;!s s.limbs 773956;1406527438;assbot;15 results for 's.limbs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=s.limbs 773957;1406527440;mircea_popescu;think of it like having a really shitty name, like say your mom named you todd gack or something 773958;1406527472;DreadKnight;or dick 773959;1406527479;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: could do "philosophe" too, which i like, but only .co 773960;1406527488;mircea_popescu;philosopheco ? 773961;1406527498;benkay;pihosope.te 773962;1406527499;DreadKnight;bitcoinpete, are you looking for domain name too? 773963;1406527499;bitcoinpete;sorta 773964;1406527503;mircea_popescu;you're not groking this. there's nothing specifically about you that's bitcoin. nor "philosophe" 773965;1406527516;mircea_popescu;branding is not self description, you're not looking for larger things to latch on to 773966;1406527522;mircea_popescu;you're looking for smaller things to dominate. 773967;1406527563;cazalla;bitcoinpete, how about zerocool 773968;1406527570;DreadKnight;xD 773969;1406527584;bitcoinpete;hm like canada? edmonton? the north saskatchewan river? 773970;1406527592;bitcoinpete;my cat benny? lol 773971;1406527613;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i see what you're saying tho 773972;1406527619;DreadKnight;I thought he meant more like zerocoolnessIcantfindnickname 773973;1406527627;mircea_popescu;About Dead-Eye Dick and Mexican Pete, And a harlot named Eskimo Nell. 773974;1406527628;bitcoinpete;gonna sleep on …. shit i dominate 773975;1406527663;bitcoinpete;arcticpete... 773976;1406527673;DreadKnight;centipete 773977;1406527681;bitcoinpete;millipete 773978;1406527688;DreadKnight;yeah, milli 773979;1406527717;mircea_popescu; gonna sleep on . shit i dominate << it's how dogs do it. 773980;1406527737;cazalla;i would stick with bitcoinpete because i'm not teenager who gives into peer pressure from a bunch of nerds on irc but that's me 773981;1406527755;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's why your own name's so good (in my view) : cuz who the fuck else's gonna steal it from you. 773982;1406527773;mircea_popescu;as cazalla points out, there's other schools of thought on the subject. 773983;1406527778;DreadKnight;bitcoinpete, what cazalla did is still peer pressure and reverse psychology ;) 773984;1406527780;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: totally agree. still need an url 773985;1406527794;mircea_popescu;then again, im not a guy married to a woman that does black cox on the side 773986;1406527795;mircea_popescu;:D 773987;1406527816;cazalla;kid is white and pale so try again 773988;1406527828;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: she needs smaller coz nao? 773989;1406527837;cazalla;blue eyes to boot, fuhrer would be proud of this one 773990;1406527837;bitcoinpete;cox* 773991;1406527845;mircea_popescu;cazalla you're talking pre-vaginal-humongofication. 773992;1406527872;cazalla;funny you mention vagina sizing though, ex gf had huge vagina, missus has tiny 773993;1406527880;cazalla;we're talking fist to single digit 773994;1406527885;mircea_popescu;it's the true female mystery. 773995;1406527896;mircea_popescu;you never can fucking guess what awaits between the girls' legs. 773996;1406527932;DreadKnight;chances of random event will increase with time 773997;1406527946;mircea_popescu;had sex with a 60lb 5 foot and a shade chick with a gaping suction vacum that'd have accomodated my fist. next to her, well womanly woman, can barely fit the cock. there's no rhyme to vagina size i tell you. 773998;1406527951;cazalla;ex also had this huge clit which was interesting 773999;1406528037;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/eskimo-nell/ << shit im proud of that translation. romanian reads better than the fucking original. 774000;1406528039;assbot;Eskimo Nell pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774001;1406528160;cazalla;what's the chopper comments about 774002;1406528210;mircea_popescu;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221073/ << this dood 774003;1406528211;assbot;Chopper (2000) - IMDb 774004;1406528225;cazalla;of course i know who chopper is 774005;1406528227;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: pletzalcoatl: "I’m going back to the frozen north, where the pricks are hard and strong" << we'll take her :D 774006;1406528248;cazalla;my cousin knew him, they're both dead, go figure 774007;1406528274;mircea_popescu;must be the water. 774008;1406528288;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete you already got a whole harem up there. 774009;1406528309;cazalla;anyway, said clit http://imgur.com/n6zzRXO,MqUyWY4 774010;1406528309;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 774011;1406528321;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: and what of it. so do you… down… there 774012;1406528326;cazalla;old pics though, it would get much bigger than that 774013;1406528344;dub;nothing to do with being bred from the same set of limey criminals 774014;1406528349;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.181 BTC. Current weight: 99,686. 774015;1406528358;mircea_popescu;i like this internet where everyone's everything's available for easy reference. 774016;1406528418;mircea_popescu;cazalla that's not notably large matey. some chicks got em big enough to fuck you with. http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-08-18/1282157089978.jpg 774017;1406528439;cazalla;chyna clit eh 774018;1406528476;mircea_popescu;i have nfi. 774019;1406528491;cazalla;tits http://imgur.com/T09qaJq 774020;1406528491;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 774021;1406528515;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2014/07/france_s_fait_maison_law_no_one_can_agree_on_what_homemade_means.html 774022;1406528515;assbot;France’s fait maison law: No one can agree on what “homemade” means. 774023;1406528557;DreadKnight;couldn't find info on s.limbs oh well 774024;1406528570;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight it's a joke. 774025;1406528574;mircea_popescu;an insider joke. 774026;1406528583;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, was considering it might be the case 774027;1406528586;mircea_popescu;cazalla looks familiar. 774028;1406528588;benkay;!s limbs 774029;1406528589;assbot;15 results for 'limbs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=limbs 774030;1406528664;cazalla;doubt it, never uploaded them online, unless she did which is doubtful 774031;1406528675;cazalla;another no face bitch 774032;1406528703;mircea_popescu;cazalla nah just, they're the most common looking tits ever. 774033;1406528719;DreadKnight;a bit shaggy, a bit non symmetrical 774034;1406528721;mircea_popescu;DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-103502 lol 774035;1406528722;assbot;Sa ne jucam de-a investitiile-n bitcoini. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774036;1406528722;cazalla;she had a baby so i imagine they look different now 774037;1406528740;cazalla;i'm sure the baby slipped out with ease too 774038;1406528797;cazalla;anyway, i speak of her because she emailed me earlier asking how i am, probably wants the dick 774039;1406528813;DreadKnight;cazalla, she had your baby because you thought you would die pretty soon, right? 774040;1406528826;cazalla;DreadKnight, no, this is a different woman 774041;1406528832;DreadKnight;ok, making sure 774042;1406528852;cazalla;DreadKnight, that wasn't the sole reason though 774043;1406528895;DreadKnight;cazalla, too much money and afraid it would go to the government on your demise? 774044;1406528955;DreadKnight;buy gold and bury it somewhere, treasure map it as a nice game 774045;1406528987;cazalla;DreadKnight, not really, missus wanted one for a while but i resisted, figured if i'm gonna die, may as well 774046;1406529007;xmj;fluffypony: help 774047;1406529014;DreadKnight;cazalla, well, she sounded pretty nice from your description 774048;1406529025;xmj;fluffypony: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1798-you-are-the-average-of-the-five-people-you-spend 774049;1406529027;assbot;Quote by Jim Rohn: You are the average of the five people you spen... 774050;1406529027;cazalla;DreadKnight, now she wants another one but i'm scared to roll the dice again and end up with a daughter 774051;1406529043;fluffypony;xmj: just woke up, reading noa 774052;1406529043;bitcoinpete;alright. off to dream of domain names. adios! 774053;1406529048;xmj;fluffypony: i'm currently trying to figure out if there's any social science to back up that claim. I already have enough anecdotal evidence from my life 774054;1406529052;cazalla;DreadKnight, she is the most polite and lovely woman i've ever met, just means the sex is lousy 774055;1406529056;xmj;...to justify said claim 774056;1406529062;DreadKnight;cazalla, there's some science in influencing the sex 774057;1406529076;xmj;fluffypony: do you know if there's any social science (sociology etc) to support it? 774058;1406529085;cazalla;DreadKnight, i don't want sex with her so who cares 774059;1406529100;DreadKnight;cazalla, meant sex of the kid, gender 774060;1406529103;fluffypony;xmj: not offhand 774061;1406529114;xmj;fluffypony: if you do see something, or even better, remember 774062;1406529120;xmj;think of me and drop me a line in PM or so 774063;1406529127;cazalla;DreadKnight, so did i, takes sex to make a baby, not sure if you knew that 774064;1406529137;fluffypony;kk 774065;1406529183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00080599 = 20.0692 BTC [-] 774066;1406529195;DreadKnight;cazalla, what she eats during early pregnancy, temperature... possibly very influential factors for the gender of the child; there are online articles about it and research done 774067;1406529217;cazalla;wouldn't that be for me? 774068;1406529217;BingoBoingo;!up copumpkin 774069;1406529223;DreadKnight;cazalla, so you would take less chances with that dice hopefully 774070;1406529252;DreadKnight;cazalla, you don't gestate the baby, you just share seed with her 774071;1406529265;cazalla;DreadKnight, she doesn't decide the sex 774072;1406529299;DreadKnight;cazalla, I got that you want a boy, you do her to get specific habits to increase chances of having a boy 774073;1406529389;cazalla;DreadKnight, at this rate, i doubt it'll ever happen again 774074;1406529393;DreadKnight;you get her to do specific stuff* like eating certain food 774075;1406529398;DreadKnight;alright 774076;1406529469;cazalla;eating certain foods, fuck during eclipse, sounds like bunk to me 774077;1406529470;DreadKnight;1 is plenty, and it's the Illuminati way 774078;1406529505;DreadKnight;cazalla, it's like saying that smoking during pregnancy is also bunk 774079;1406529511;benkay;kids work better with siblings 774080;1406529563;DreadKnight;I'm a single kid and I did just fine *flickers an eye* 774081;1406529576;cazalla;benkay, yeah it's a concern plus there are no kids playing on the streets these days 774082;1406529606;DreadKnight;there was a time kids would come together to connect nintendo's together using a wire to play pokemon 774083;1406529642;DreadKnight;until I make my game project awesome and get people to play together, it's all downhill 774084;1406529660;DreadKnight;there are no good hotseat games out there nowadays ffs 774085;1406529664;cazalla;wife's bff is talking adopting since we had our baby but i don't want my son playing with some niglet from africa 774086;1406529706;benkay;quick impregnate her 774087;1406529737;cazalla;the friend? 774088;1406529754;cazalla;she lived with us for a bit but didn't happen 774089;1406529772;DreadKnight;cazalla, I know a blonde who has a girl with a guy from Nigeria and it seems very possessed to me or something, scared the crap out of me; she turned out black 774090;1406529810;DreadKnight;true story, it was like she was on crack 774091;1406529828;cazalla;that's pretty racist of you DreadKnight 774092;1406529844;DreadKnight;I'm not racist 774093;1406529854;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00080599 = 5.8837 BTC [-] 774094;1406529856;DreadKnight;lol, who's talking 774095;1406529907;DreadKnight;anyway, maybe your friend staying at your place didn't really mean the adoption thing, might have been an invitation, cazalla 774096;1406529923;DreadKnight;so benkay might be on to something 774097;1406529943;cazalla;not worth the drama DreadKnight 774098;1406529962;DreadKnight;maybe she doesn't want a kid, just some action; less drama 774099;1406529998;benkay;tempting economies of scale on wives and offspring, though 774100;1406530004;cazalla;yeah but it always comes out and then it's drama, much easier to go elsewhere to a woman not connected 774101;1406530018;DreadKnight;maybe your wife is testing you out xD 774102;1406530030;cazalla;she's not like that 774103;1406530034;cazalla;the bff though, is 774104;1406530035;DreadKnight;recall an awesome condom ad 774105;1406530046;DreadKnight;bff might had the idea, she approved 774106;1406530073;cazalla;in anycase, i had a smell of her knickers, wasn't that tempted after 774107;1406530118;benkay;make her tidy herself up 774108;1406530126;DreadKnight;found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyekMx50PvU 774109;1406530127;assbot;Trojan Condoms -The Test - YouTube 774110;1406530132;cazalla;she's long gone benkay 774111;1406530187;benkay;kinda just lamely trollin tonight 774112;1406530198;benkay;watching emacs install on a server 774113;1406530199;benkay;hue 774114;1406530298;DreadKnight;benkay, life as a baron not more exciting? :\ 774115;1406530431;DreadKnight;not exactly sure what duties do barons have in this century 774116;1406530529;benkay;"may you live in exciting times." 774117;1406530537;benkay;g'night. 774118;1406530569;DreadKnight;rest well 774119;1406530586;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65450 @ 0.00080384 = 52.6113 BTC [-] {2} 774120;1406530745;cazalla;so what are you playing atm DreadKnight 774121;1406530995;DreadKnight;cazalla, trying not to play because I fall into addiction; hooked on reading blog articles (many from mircea_popescu) and watching a bit of anime on the side 774122;1406531011;DreadKnight;anyway, been thinking of playing some HoMM3 again soon, haven't done so in years 774123;1406531023;mircea_popescu; true story, it was like she was on crack << that made no sense. what ? 774124;1406531076;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, that little girl was really strange, she was like moving around, shouting, singing, dancing, all that stuff at once 774125;1406531086;DreadKnight;all the time 774126;1406531089;DreadKnight;and more. 774127;1406531106;DreadKnight;0 pause and calmness in her 774128;1406531120;cazalla;what else would you expect from a black woman 774129;1406531129;mircea_popescu;re that stupid video : what the fuck is it that all male figures in english footage have to be these insecure twerps these days ? 774130;1406531129;DreadKnight;lol, racist 774131;1406531157;DreadKnight;mircea_popescu, yeah, the guy is lame 774132;1406531191;mircea_popescu;"a test ?!?!" wtf happened to omfg on your knees bitch bring the birch switch this ain't washing. 774133;1406531205;DreadKnight;:D 774134;1406531262;DreadKnight;that reminds me of some 50 cent lyrics, something like "bitch get off the sidewalk into the street, bitch! the sidewalk is for pimpin', bitch!" 774135;1406531503;DreadKnight;cazalla, what are you playing? 774136;1406531553;cazalla;DreadKnight, http://store.steampowered.com/app/312410/ 774137;1406531554;assbot;Defense Zone on Steam 774138;1406531596;cazalla;DreadKnight, tower defense games are good when you have a kid, can pause and come back 774139;1406531699;DreadKnight;HoMM3 is turn based strategy ;) 774140;1406531703;mircea_popescu;i love td. 774141;1406531722;DreadKnight;had my share of td games, especially as custom maps in warcraft 3 774142;1406531735;DreadKnight;it's pretty much where td games were born 774143;1406531736;mircea_popescu;!up DeusCerehling 774144;1406531740;DreadKnight;(same goes for moba) 774145;1406531762;mircea_popescu;lemme show you : http://trilema.com/2012/steampunk-tower-defense/ http://trilema.com/2012/tower-defense-trinitatea/ http://trilema.com/2010/tower-defense/ http://trilema.com/2010/tower-defense-an-epic/ 774146;1406531763;assbot;Steampunk Tower Defense pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774147;1406531764;assbot;Tower Defense - Trinitatea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774148;1406531765;assbot;Tower defense pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774149;1406531766;assbot;Tower Defense, an epic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774150;1406531862;cazalla;mircea_popescu, kingdom rush is great 774151;1406531870;mircea_popescu;yah 774152;1406531901;cazalla;the others i've not seen before 774153;1406531913;DreadKnight;finished kingdom rush and the expansion; one of my favs :) 774154;1406531945;cazalla;finished as in finished did not concede a single point? 774155;1406531977;DreadKnight;I don't have issues with td games 774156;1406532033;cazalla;they may as well give you 1 man because i restart if i lose any mans let alone having 20 to spare or something like that 774157;1406532105;DreadKnight;the beauty of having OCD 774158;1406532216;DreadKnight;actually I'm thinking about Diablo 3 overall; did too much HoMM3 in my life, not quite cutting it anymore as it should 774159;1406532260;cazalla;DreadKnight, you know what killed diablo 3 more than anything 774160;1406532267;DreadKnight;AH 774161;1406532277;cazalla;DreadKnight, they made Tyrael a fucking nigger 774162;1406532282;DreadKnight;was talking with mircea on the blog about it 774163;1406532301;DreadKnight;oh yeah, I didn't really got that; I was kinda "erm ok" with the paladin being one in diablo 2 774164;1406532316;DreadKnight;since they're usually about church and gospels 774165;1406532355;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18598 @ 0.00080569 = 14.9842 BTC [+] {2} 774166;1406532384;DreadKnight;that DMX rapper is strange, he's all violence and then he's all prayers in his music and then next track is all god/love/jesus bs 774167;1406532436;DreadKnight;hypocrite 774168;1406532533;cazalla;is he the one who started ripping off old chiptunes or is that someone else 774169;1406532684;DreadKnight;haha 774170;1406532735;DreadKnight;it's basically what a lot of people in the industry do 774171;1406532827;DreadKnight;it doesn't matter there are basically an infinite number of tracks possible, artists keep catering to the same known paths of patterns 774172;1406532952;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps_part_2.html ahh such splendor. 774173;1406532954;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Hipsters On Food Stamps, Part 2 774174;1406532979;DreadKnight;cazalla, are you uncle Rufus? xD 774175;1406532995;DreadKnight;uncle Ruckus* 774176;1406533115;cazalla;DreadKnight, had to google that one, nope not him, i'm not really racist, just a means of trolling and outing certain kinds of people 774177;1406533240;DreadKnight;cazalla, well, since you're not familiar with Boondocks cartoon and you only searched google images, Uncle Ruckus was a black racist 774178;1406533262;DreadKnight;supposedly he was white and had a skin disorder that made him black 774179;1406533300;DreadKnight;which relates to this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308383/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 774180;1406533301;assbot;Der menschliche Makel (2003) - IMDb 774181;1406533321;DreadKnight;assbot turned into a nazzy for some reason 774182;1406533361;DreadKnight;so Ruckus was black, yet talking smack on black people all the time, pretty funny 774183;1406533456;DreadKnight;anyway, it's good you kid about it; I don't find terms like "black" or "nigger" racist at all, but about something else entirely different 774184;1406533464;DreadKnight;also not offended by being called white or cracker 774185;1406533476;cazalla;DreadKnight, seen clips but never watched a full episode 774186;1406533490;DreadKnight;most of the time it's lame white kids that bitch about seeing someone else using the n word being used, like wtf 774187;1406533532;DreadKnight;had someone in my channel like "fuck you you racist homophones" and he left 774188;1406533557;cazalla;DreadKnight, thing is, there are very few black people in Australia and the ones we have are straight outta Africa, they're different to african americans (not that i know any) 774189;1406533571;cazalla;oh and we have aboriginies but they're pretty much all dead 774190;1406533572;DreadKnight;the indie game dev communities and open source channels have quite a lot of weird basement kids and libertards in them 774191;1406533572;DeusCerehling;DreadKnight, you just lost the game! 774192;1406533602;cazalla;! DeusCerehling 774193;1406533606;cazalla;!up DeusCerehling 774194;1406533685;DreadKnight;seem something strange as well... we got gypsies around which are pretty much black; yet they seen a black dude walking around (they're rather rare here) and the gypsies (3 women and a kid) where like constantly calling "nigger!" behind his black; I was like wtf 774195;1406533706;DreadKnight;"are you kidding me?" in my mind 774196;1406533726;cazalla;i don't think we have those here either 774197;1406533803;DreadKnight;towards equator people are darker, towards poles they're whiter, probably because of the heat / sun / angles / distances / light 774198;1406533836;DreadKnight;adaptation / absorption of photons 774199;1406533849;cazalla;they've got these things called planes 774200;1406533927;DreadKnight;but yeah, like DeusCerehling said, it's a bit of a bitching game 774201;1406533927;DeusCerehling;DreadKnight, you just lost the game! 774202;1406533939;DreadKnight;DeusCerehling, test 774203;1406533958;DreadKnight;that's a bit strange, bot triggering on the b or n word? :D 774204;1406533969;cazalla;is it yours? 774205;1406533977;DreadKnight;no 774206;1406533982;DreadKnight;hell no lol 774207;1406533999;cazalla;!s DeusCerehling 774208;1406533999;assbot;4 results for 'DeusCerehling' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=DeusCerehling 774209;1406533999;DreadKnight;too lazy to register / auth more gpg around xD 774210;1406534014;cazalla;never seen it before 774211;1406534023;DreadKnight;noticed 774212;1406534028;mircea_popescu;!down DeusCerehling 774213;1406534098;DreadKnight;erm was close to typing "nigger black nigeria" for another test run 774214;1406535771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.17796496 = 1.6017 BTC [+] {5} 774215;1406535832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1878999 = 0.5637 BTC [+] 774216;1406535893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1879 = 0.5637 BTC [+] 774217;1406537142;BingoBoingo;!up copain_reac 774218;1406537167;pankkake;nice username 774219;1406537229;mircea_popescu;da fuck is it ? 774220;1406537283;pankkake;copain réac, copain réactionnaire 774221;1406537289;DreadKnight;copil_copac 774222;1406537306;pankkake;Un partisan de la réaction est nommé « réactionnaire ». Le terme s'oppose à révolutionnaire, à progressiste, ces derniers employant de façon raccourcie le mot « réac » 774223;1406537336;mircea_popescu;not bad. 774224;1406538577;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00080599 = 2.4534 BTC [+] 774225;1406539372;BingoBoingo;!up rodgort 774226;1406539431;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7931 @ 0.00080248 = 6.3645 BTC [-] {2} 774227;1406539656;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: Up early or "late"? 774228;1406539672;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: A mix of both 774229;1406540224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18889999 = 0.9445 BTC [+] {2} 774230;1406540254;mircea_popescu;lol 774231;1406540590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00080603 = 9.8336 BTC [+] {2} 774232;1406540651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 249 @ 0.003 = 0.747 BTC [+] 774233;1406541031;BingoBoingo;Eh, it's late 774234;1406541034;BingoBoingo;%t 774235;1406541035;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 270 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 12k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 209 774236;1406541037;BingoBoingo;%d 774237;1406541038;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 562561.93 in 835 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -18.14 774238;1406541040;BingoBoingo;%ob 774239;1406541041;atcbot;30k@278 31k@275 955@270 | 43k@210 50k@203 100k@202 774240;1406541735;jurov;!mpif 774241;1406541736;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+] 774242;1406541752;jurov;!t m d.bpay 774243;1406541752;assbot;[MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.23999999 / 0.23999999 / 0.23999999 (42 shares, 10.08 BTC) 774244;1406542082;mircea_popescu;!up B51Num1 774245;1406542107;jurov;;;bc,stats 774246;1406542109;gribble;Current Blocks: 312836 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1659 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 31 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18617974357.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.63228 774247;1406542359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12638 @ 0.00080657 = 10.1934 BTC [+] {2} 774248;1406542481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2531 @ 0.00080167 = 2.029 BTC [-] 774249;1406542487;thestringpuller;We should get a time zone converter in here. 774250;1406542508;thestringpuller;via google 774251;1406543305;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/so-what-do-you-want/ 774252;1406543518;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00080161 = 16.1524 BTC [-] {2} 774253;1406544372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.00304944 = 0.6038 BTC [+] {2} 774254;1406544940;pankkake;'"Mining Everyone" has always been the core business concept of ROCKMINER' <= what's next, go mine yourself? 774255;1406545065;fluffypony;hah ha 774256;1406545223;fluffypony;woah how did I miss this from Jimmothy the Investment Wizard: "It's also strange that TAT is involved considering he was partially responsible for one of the biggest bitcoin scams yet (neobee)" 774257;1406545238;fluffypony;how the fuck was he partially responsible? because he got on a plane and met the people? 774258;1406545312;pankkake;a bit more than that 774259;1406545348;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00080133 = 20.9948 BTC [-] {2} 774260;1406545349;pankkake;he's probably really mad because of asicminer, though 774261;1406545400;dub;;;google time in est 774262;1406545401;gribble;EST – Eastern Standard Time: ; Current local time in U.S.A. – New York – New York - Time and Date: ; Eastern Time - Greenwich Mean Time: 774263;1406545445;dub;;google time in new york 774264;1406545452;dub;;;google time in new york 774265;1406545453;gribble;New York - World Time Clock & Map: ; Current local time in U.S.A. – New York – New York - Time and Date: ; The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia: 774266;1406545455;pankkake;it works on the google, but not on irc 774267;1406545474;dub;meh 774268;1406545478;dub;thestringpuller: everytimezone.com 774269;1406546446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7597 @ 0.00285544 = 21.6928 BTC [-] {31} 774270;1406546507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6034 @ 0.00269225 = 16.245 BTC [-] {34} 774271;1406546568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4919 @ 0.00255003 = 12.5436 BTC [-] {10} 774272;1406547422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 310 @ 0.00283381 = 0.8785 BTC [+] 774273;1406547727;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36509 @ 0.00080116 = 29.2496 BTC [-] {2} 774274;1406548886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00080241 = 1.4042 BTC [+] 774275;1406550899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 991 @ 0.00294765 = 2.9211 BTC [-] {3} 774276;1406553583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 221 @ 0.00294599 = 0.6511 BTC [-] 774277;1406555108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.00275001 = 0.7975 BTC [-] 774278;1406555800;jurov;;;TICKER 774279;1406555801;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 575.42, Best ask: 576.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.81000, Last trade: 576.23, 24 hour volume: 7791.19126222, 24 hour low: 570.5, 24 hour high: 595.88, 24 hour vwap: 581.813636066 774280;1406556023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15651 @ 0.00080171 = 12.5476 BTC [-] 774281;1406556152;Vexual;HI JUROV 774282;1406556165;jurov;eh 774283;1406556198;pankkake;does ;;TICKER get a bigger price? 774284;1406556307;Vexual;lowercase numbers 774285;1406556314;Vexual;dont exist 774286;1406556360;jurov;i sell only BTC, not btc 774287;1406556381;Vexual;drop the t 774288;1406556414;Vexual;but then its bc 774289;1406556456;Vexual;how long was it i told the20year not to vet with facebook and jus run numbers? 774290;1406556511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00080221 = 12.8354 BTC [+] {2} 774291;1406556554;Vexual;chapter 2 774292;1406556616;Vexual;;;8ball bc/usd lower than necessary? 774293;1406556616;gribble;About as likely as pigs flying. 774294;1406556624;Vexual;ouch 774295;1406556665;Vexual;;;8ball loaded? 774296;1406556665;gribble;About as likely as pigs flying. 774297;1406556722;Vexual;;;8ball 3 in a row? 774298;1406556722;gribble;You know the answer better than I. 774299;1406557309;ThickAsThieves;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701902/Father-smirks-sentenced-18-years-fatally-beating-two-year-old-daughter-attack-hoped-make-lesbian-avoid-men.html#ixzz38l1vBCJC 774300;1406557309;assbot;Flint father jailed for 18 years after beating daughter to make her lesbian | Mail Online 774301;1406557356;Vexual;what makes you think anyone wants to read that? 774302;1406557360;ThickAsThieves;no one respects scientists anymore 774303;1406557609;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00080171 = 17.6376 BTC [-] 774304;1406557680;Vexual;heres some science: 774305;1406557773;ThickAsThieves;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-upHSP9KU 774306;1406557773;assbot;Oingo Boingo - Weird Science - YouTube 774307;1406557957;Vexual;;;lasers 774308;1406557957;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 774309;1406558402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00080233 = 9.3873 BTC [+] 774310;1406558768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00080112 = 17.865 BTC [-] {3} 774311;1406559684;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00080065 = 11.7696 BTC [-] {2} 774312;1406560302;mike_c;;;bc,stats 774313;1406560306;gribble;Current Blocks: 312872 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1623 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 13 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18810793662.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.39683 774314;1406560320;mike_c;blockr is a couple blocks back. interesting. 774315;1406560545;fluffypony;mike_c: I haven't heard from that dude, btw - can you prod him? haven't found anyone suitable in the interim 774316;1406560560;mike_c;TaT, you said we were in a bull channel and were going to pop to $700. you need to buy different tea :) 774317;1406560581;kakobrekla;mike_c ? 774318;1406560588;kakobrekla;i see 874 774319;1406560592;mike_c;fluffypony: he's popped in a couple times looking for you. i think he's going to drop in this morning too 774320;1406560592;kakobrekla;on their site 774321;1406560624;mike_c;kakobrekla: what? i see 312870 on their site & api, and blockchain.info is on 873 774322;1406560628;fluffypony;mike_c: ok cool 774323;1406560631;mike_c;i don't see 874 anywhere :) 774324;1406560633;fluffypony;he must just pm me 774325;1406560643;kakobrekla;dunno, i see 312874 here 774326;1406560651;kakobrekla;looking at http://btc.blockr.io 774327;1406560683;mike_c;kakobrekla: now so do I. 774328;1406560766;mike_c;but they were falling behind. i check wol blocks against a couple services to make sure i'm not falling behind. got an error that I was -2 blocks behind blockr, and verified on their homepage. 774329;1406560775;kakobrekla;hm 774330;1406560795;kakobrekla;ill ask them sup. 774331;1406560804;mike_c;they seem caught up now. 774332;1406560847;mike_c;i thought we might be about to orphan a couple blocks, but seems not. 774333;1406560884;kakobrekla;could be bad node connectivity 774334;1406561290;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> TaT, you said we were in a bull channel and were going to pop to $700. you need to buy different tea :) /// if you look at the chart it calls for a down before the 700, grnated the chart didnt go as far down as today 774335;1406561299;ThickAsThieves;i did note a few days ago that 560 was possible 774336;1406561319;mike_c;ok.. i won't cancel my subscription yet 774337;1406561321;ThickAsThieves;it's all voodoo anyway tho, yes 774338;1406561513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12982 @ 0.00080018 = 10.3879 BTC [-] 774339;1406561578;ThickAsThieves;mike_c i'm remaking the audioz, i output them all at listening volume by mistake 774340;1406561586;ThickAsThieves;(too low) 774341;1406561599;ThickAsThieves;i havent compared to the orginal yet either 774342;1406561608;mike_c;ah, ok. pm me a link whenever you like them. 774343;1406561622;mike_c;i am curious to hear the difference 774344;1406561822;ThickAsThieves;all i heard is "the cunt generation" 774345;1406561834;mike_c;sticks in your head doesn't it 774346;1406561849;mike_c;wol will probably get banned from youtube 774347;1406561876;ThickAsThieves;hehe 774348;1406561939;fluffypony;!up the20year 774349;1406561968;the20year;I met with the bank today and got very, very good news - The company has grown to the point (finally) that they want to take us on as a lending partner 774350;1406561980;the20year;As far as give us lines of credit and mortgages 774351;1406561985;mike_c;congrats! 774352;1406562001;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00080233 = 11.8344 BTC [+] 774353;1406562020;the20year;terms they offered were fantastic 774354;1406562032;mike_c;hey, whatever happened with that outfit in some other state you were going to buy or fund or something? 774355;1406562033;the20year;I had budgeted up to 7% but they came out the gate at 5% or less 774356;1406562057;the20year;fell through, every thing that could have gone wrong to work with them fell through and i essentially took it as a sign not to do the deal 774357;1406562073;mike_c;a wise or lucky outcome. 774358;1406562082;the20year;yeah 774359;1406562101;the20year;I had set up 4 different times to meet with them and something happened each time , car broke down, airplane broke down, ect 774360;1406562108;mike_c;dog died 774361;1406562121;the20year;So, as long as these guys don't do something stupid to shut us down on the btctalk thread we'll be ok 774362;1406562155;mike_c;the forum is.. toxic. 774363;1406562201;the20year;Well, so far i've had people find out every single piece of information that can be found about me - name, address, phone number, where i live, my wife's information, all the websites i own, the address of where our tenants live, ect 774364;1406562222;the20year;all sorts of threats ,ect to call the SEC and report me, which is funny because if the company gets shut down the SEC takes all the investor money 774365;1406562239;mike_c;why threats? seems to me you've been running things fairly. 774366;1406562270;the20year;Well, i thought so, till they started poking around and started using statements i"ve made 3 months, 6 months, 10 years ago as 'proof' that i'm lying about things 774367;1406562298;mike_c;oh right. they were getting their boxers in a twist because of some llc shuffling you did or something. 774368;1406562336;the20year;That's what started it, they complained about the two properties I had in my name. I explained why (in order to get the discounts) and they went on to something else 774369;1406562342;mike_c;this, by the way, is a direct consequence of having the wrong kind of investors. 774370;1406562352;the20year;none of them are investors 774371;1406562392;mike_c;then why are you discussing your business with them on the forum? 774372;1406562414;the20year;because I made the poor choice thinking that their negative statements effected investors, so i would answer em 774373;1406562430;mike_c;no time like the present to correct that. 774374;1406562475;the20year;my last message on there was that it makes no sense to further the talk 774375;1406562483;the20year;i likely should delete the thread 774376;1406562491;mike_c;meh, just ignore it. 774377;1406563221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69078580 BTC to 12`599 shares, 13420 satoshi per share 774378;1406563282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 17.07732180 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1485 satoshi per share 774379;1406563343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68350 @ 0.00080395 = 54.95 BTC [+] {3} 774380;1406564746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27234 @ 0.00080493 = 21.9215 BTC [+] 774381;1406565356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.00290562 = 0.7264 BTC [-] {4} 774382;1406565478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 780 @ 0.00293742 = 2.2912 BTC [+] {5} 774383;1406566054;fluffypony;oh for those physical coin lovers, just in case you hadn't seen this yet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525756.msg8030032#msg8030032 774384;1406566054;assbot;Silver Wallets a new kind of physical storage for your bitcoin 774385;1406566189;ThickAsThieves;nightowlace, why is that name familiar? 774386;1406567006;fluffypony;no clue 774387;1406567397;ThickAsThieves;ProTools the only professional software that still freezes Windows 774388;1406567431;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18582 @ 0.00080621 = 14.981 BTC [+] {2} 774389;1406567553;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00080697 = 35.5874 BTC [+] 774390;1406568339;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: if it's the thing I think you're talking about, the non-mac windows port is buggy, yeah :( 774391;1406568380;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: doing some audio remastery or songwriting or something? 774392;1406568570;kuzetsa;I use an old "syntrilium" (pre-adobe "audition") version of cool edit from like a million years ago because none of adobe's "improvements" actually made it better --- despite having actually purchased an adobe audition license at one point, expecting it to actually be better and not just bloated 774393;1406568651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 260 @ 0.00289999 = 0.754 BTC [-] {3} 774394;1406568828;thestringpuller;ThickAsThieves: protools works better on mac anyways 774395;1406568879;mircea_popescu;none of adobe's "improvements" actually made it better --- despite having actually purchased an adobe audition <<< oh, so very much this. 774396;1406569071;ThickAsThieves;i started in cool edit and fruityloops in the late 90s 774397;1406569076;*;kuzetsa nods 774398;1406569084;kuzetsa;yeah, cool edit for me in the 90s too 774399;1406569094;ThickAsThieves;i'm just pretending to be a voiceover polisher 774400;1406569139;ThickAsThieves;some noise reduction, eq, compression, de-essing 774401;1406569203;ThickAsThieves;the mic was too close to her mouth mostly is the problem 774402;1406569225;ThickAsThieves;"problem" 774403;1406569258;fluffypony;mircea_popescu I found a Reddit post for you 774404;1406569259;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2bxvgm/iama_cam_girl_working_in_a_semilegal_studio_in/ 774405;1406569260;assbot;IamA Cam Girl working in a semilegal studio in Romania. AMA! : IAmA 774406;1406569260;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35407 @ 0.00080174 = 28.3872 BTC [-] {2} 774407;1406569267;mircea_popescu;lmao. 774408;1406569278;mircea_popescu;you know how many of these i fucked over the years ? what the hell would i still ask. 774409;1406569313;fluffypony;"remember me?" 774410;1406569314;fluffypony;:-P 774411;1406569334;mircea_popescu;lol that's okay. 774412;1406569356;asciilifeform;'only $1300 a month? that's really sad.' 774413;1406569371;mircea_popescu;as dreadknight would inform you, "it depends where you live". 774414;1406569379;mircea_popescu;because the internet is totally not a thing and everything. 774415;1406569401;asciilifeform;what does 1300 get you in ro ? 774416;1406569415;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ironically, more than a decent salary gets you in dc. 774417;1406569435;*;asciilifeform believes, but curious just what 774418;1406569437;mircea_popescu;you can proly keep your own house and a pair of mistresses in their own house of of it. 774419;1406569445;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: I've done some procedural generation and engineering of sounds which are unlikely to occur in nature -- stuff like a modulated frequency sweep vaguely based on the harmonics of a bell, but with "strange" harmonics which probably aren't possible without having some rather unlikely (inplausible, might-be-impossible) materials which don't have a stable natural resonance 774420;1406569445;kuzetsa;frequency 774421;1406569472;mircea_popescu;most teenaged student chicks would run you about three to five hundred a month all included. so that's almost 3 people in their twenties i nthat 1300. 774422;1406569502;ThickAsThieves;kuzetsa, but does it sound good? ;) 774423;1406569508;kuzetsa;heh 774424;1406569511;kuzetsa;that's not the purpose of it 774425;1406569520;ThickAsThieves;what is? 774426;1406569531;kakobrekla;to sound bad. 774427;1406569541;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, i find it very entertaining that in the vast majority of cases people wanting a job or a raise argue for their income on the terms of what living costs, rent and whatnot. who the hell ever heard of that, i have no idea. 774428;1406569545;ThickAsThieves;you should talk to nubbins then 774429;1406569549;kuzetsa;stable harmonics and a "rich" resonance & such is usually what makes a musical insturment sounds nice 774430;1406569551;mircea_popescu;ahaha o you two 774431;1406569556;kuzetsa;this is the opposite of that 774432;1406569566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00292 = 0.584 BTC [+] 774433;1406569571;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa so you're a sound engineer for milenial pop bands. 774434;1406569585;kuzetsa;no 774435;1406569592;ThickAsThieves;other bad music 774436;1406569598;kuzetsa;this isn't for music 774437;1406569605;ThickAsThieves;fo rthe motherland? 774438;1406569609;mircea_popescu;so you're a bridge failure engineer. 774439;1406569618;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: people wanting a job... income on the terms of what living costs << unless one is a necromancer, it is difficult to hire folks who can't live 774440;1406569673;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform unless one is a thermodynamics gaylord, it is irrelevant what living costs. you're running a business, not a charity. except in the us, of course, where all the corporations usg sponsored charities foul up the market, and with it, the culture and people's heads. 774441;1406569706;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is like to say, i want a tractor, don't care what it costs to fuel it 774442;1406569711;kuzetsa;http://yurizoku.tk/static/bitcoin/poke.wav <-- that's not musical 774443;1406569730;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform tell me this : how does princeton manage to sell an item called "education" for more than it's willing to pay ? hgow does this work, pay us 100k of your pre-tax money and make back 80k of it over 20 years ? 774444;1406569730;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: now if you can house the servant personally, sure, it doesn't matter what the local slumlords charge 774445;1406569738;kakobrekla;it is if you put it on repeat. 774446;1406569754;ThickAsThieves;kuzetsa, do you make any video game sound fx 774447;1406569759;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: that's just a popped pyramid 774448;1406569776;asciilifeform;used to be, make %xxx of it back 774449;1406569776;mircea_popescu;so wait, you want me to be stupider than princeton ? well tough, im not. 774450;1406569780;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: no 774451;1406569785;mircea_popescu;let the government give out food stamps, i dont give a shit. 774452;1406569790;asciilifeform;lol 774453;1406569792;mircea_popescu;in any case i'm noit paying for it. 774454;1406569808;mircea_popescu;gotta show a profit, which means someone somewhere's gotta show a loss. 774455;1406569810;kakobrekla;now that you mention it, it does remind of a space balls laser sound 774456;1406569968;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: presumably your employees are in 'the black' though. otherwise you'd refer to them as volunteers... 774457;1406569992;mircea_popescu;i keep slaves and partners. this employee thing is rather iffy. 774458;1406570016;mircea_popescu;from a moral standpoint, too : i don't really see why i should fix a monthly wage. let them get half-ish of their work's worth. 774459;1406570024;asciilifeform;the fellow who gets to swap the disks - partner? slave? contractor? 774460;1406570032;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> i keep slaves and partners. this employee thing is rather iffy. /// do any think they are the other? ;) 774461;1406570046;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i doubt it very much. tho people do aspire. 774462;1406570084;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: since you're niot likely to guess what that sound is for --- it's a bunch of frequencies which can be played on nearly any speaker, headphones, etc. and be used to demonstrate what the frequency response is for that particular equipment... except it's quick (VERY fast) compared to an audio test CD or something (doesn't require multiple seconds) 774463;1406570086;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well now we can't give away too much business sikrits can we. 774464;1406570091;asciilifeform;lol 774465;1406570125;mircea_popescu;!up brighton36 774466;1406570145;brighton36;hah - what a vip I am. Thank-you assbot 774467;1406570151;mircea_popescu;lol. so who're you ? 774468;1406570158;ThickAsThieves;kuzetsa, i see 774469;1406570165;brighton36;No one important. A journalist and programmer 774470;1406570172;mike_c;kakobrekla: it sounds like a laser pistol that has about 10 shots left before dying. 774471;1406570174;mircea_popescu;that's a start. 774472;1406570175;brighton36;long time bitcoin afficionado 774473;1406570183;kuzetsa;ThickAsThieves: it also makes for a good alarm sound, since when played on most speakers, at least 1 or 2 of the frequencies will "carry" decently and be within the frequency range detectable by human ears, even in cases where someone has hearing loss in one or more frequency ranges 774474;1406570184;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-updates-monarch-eligible-refund-dates/ 774475;1406570218;kuzetsa;... doubly so, since it's not a naturally occuring sound an unlikely to be mistaken for ambient noise 774476;1406570220;kakobrekla;lol mike_c , a balloon popper 774477;1406570270;ThickAsThieves;what kind of company pays you for this kuzetsa? 774478;1406570290;kuzetsa;creation of that particular sound wasn't a sponsored project 774479;1406570309;mircea_popescu;and unrelatedly, http://38.media.tumblr.com/8f3f5ebf6e76d97a18f4f0b720365b7d/tumblr_msq2cflHOX1qlne6uo9_1280.jpg 774480;1406570317;kakobrekla;;;gettrust brighton36 774481;1406570317;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user brighton36: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=brighton36 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=brighton36 | Rated since: never 774482;1406570321;ThickAsThieves;i guess i'll be direct, what to do you do? 774483;1406570325;ThickAsThieves;-to 774484;1406570327;kuzetsa;currently, retired 774485;1406570336;kuzetsa;"I do what I want" 774486;1406570338;mircea_popescu;it's in the logs :D 774487;1406570351;ThickAsThieves;because you can! 774488;1406570355;mircea_popescu;kuzetsa it was "whatever, it's my hot body and i do what i want" 774489;1406570366;kuzetsa;O_O 774490;1406570374;kuzetsa;I suspect there's a meme associated with that quote 774491;1406570396;mircea_popescu;;;google cartman whatever i do what i want 774492;1406570397;gribble;Cartman - Whatever I do what I want! - YouTube: ; Cartman - Whateva, I do what I want - YouTube: ; I Do What I Want! - Video Clip | South Park Studios: 774493;1406570407;kuzetsa;I'm almost certain it'd be un-flattering to look into it and realize what it's associated with 774494;1406570418;kuzetsa;oh dear :( 774495;1406570466;mircea_popescu;and since we're doing cartman, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTtc8bTjrFo 774496;1406570466;assbot;Eric Cartman But MOM - YouTube 774497;1406570468;mike_c;that's from that trailer park kid 774498;1406570480;mike_c;boo boo or something? 774499;1406570483;kuzetsa;parody of some sort of "troubled" jerry springer type guest 774500;1406570487;kuzetsa;... I see O_O 774501;1406570493;mike_c;;;google honey boo boo 774502;1406570494;gribble;Here Comes Honey Boo Boo: TLC: ; Here Comes Honey Boo Boo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The real Honey Boo Boo: What reality TV did to the pint-size ...: 774503;1406570512;kuzetsa;from now on, I might keep that in mind / be more careful about using the phrase: "I do what I want" 774504;1406570530;kuzetsa;thanks, mircea_popescu 774505;1406570550;mircea_popescu;why ? it's pretty great. 774506;1406570619;rithm;honey boo boo is the shit 774507;1406570799;mircea_popescu;mike_c i thought it was a parody of that chick, yeah, on springer. 774508;1406570818;mike_c;idk about springer, but she's got her own show. 774509;1406570847;mike_c;(which I have never seen for the record) 774510;1406570860;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzmTOCFnMgg << specifically. 774511;1406570861;assbot;whateva i do what i want - YouTube 774512;1406570934;mike_c;i just lost six brain cells watching that. 774513;1406570945;mircea_popescu;which ones ? 774514;1406570962;Duffer1;thas no bueno 774515;1406570968;mike_c;not sure, but now I want to quit work and have more bahbies 774516;1406570988;mircea_popescu;the saurian plan is proceeding apace. /me jewhandrubs 774517;1406571298;kuzetsa;mircea_popescu: wow, yeah ok -- good example of the jerry springer video diary / introduction segment before the bit where jerry interviews people in front of the audience 774518;1406571334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00080699 = 20.3765 BTC [+] {2} 774519;1406571369;kuzetsa;mike_c: once that bit is over with, the rest of the show is typically on the stage with jerry interviewing them & the audience sometimes yells and or boos or cheers or whatever & sometimes decides to get violent O_O 774520;1406571398;mircea_popescu;im surprised dogecoin isn't sponsoring it yet. 774521;1406571405;mircea_popescu;just as much a part of redneck culture as nascar 774522;1406571423;kuzetsa;uhg :( 774523;1406571515;thestringpuller;;;google poinciana 774524;1406571516;gribble;Poinciana, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Poinciana (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Poinciana (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 774525;1406571530;mircea_popescu;jeez this bash thing is getting pretty good. 774526;1406571580;mircea_popescu;mike_c: fluffypony: he's popped in a couple times looking for you. i think he's going to drop in this morning too << later tell, neh ? 774527;1406571605;fluffypony;he popped in a short while after that, all sorted 774528;1406571642;mircea_popescu;!up carderplay 774529;1406571683;carderplay;what is this?? 774530;1406571707;carderplay;is the the main chart 774531;1406571710;mircea_popescu;the20year: fell through, every thing that could have gone wrong to work with them fell through and i essentially took it as a sign not to do the deal << sensible. 774532;1406571710;carderplay;?? 774533;1406571712;ThickAsThieves;who is this is? 774534;1406571718;mircea_popescu;that would be dog. 774535;1406571732;carderplay;*is said what 774536;1406571745;carderplay;this anit the main chat room ait?? 774537;1406571759;carderplay;you like the admin 774538;1406571761;carderplay;?? 774539;1406571769;mike_c;nobody likes the admin 774540;1406571784;mircea_popescu;!down carderplay 774541;1406571784;mike_c;assbot is a dictator 774542;1406571792;mircea_popescu;that was instructive. 774543;1406571908;kakobrekla;!up carderplay 774544;1406571922;kakobrekla;you are dotcoins brother ? 774545;1406572026;jurov;no,dotcoin had the presence of mind to not ask where he is 774546;1406572046;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/e94517b8c577cc9ed82a74f036fec03c/tumblr_ms5807Uqe01qddd4so1_500.jpg << can anyone explain why a vegetable peeler is embedded a foot up from the ground on the side of the guy's perch ? 774547;1406572046;benkay;is this real life 774548;1406572066;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00080018 = 27.7662 BTC [-] 774549;1406572112;jurov;mircea that's padlock construction 774550;1406572128;mircea_popescu;jurov oh, i see. 774551;1406572166;carderplay;ok 774552;1406572169;carderplay;am back 774553;1406572183;carderplay;so what is there creepy new here 774554;1406572217;mircea_popescu;mike_c: the forum is.. toxic. << i thought you wanted to be there. 774555;1406572219;carderplay;hey who is gribble?? 774556;1406572232;jurov;carderplay you are quite creepy 774557;1406572239;carderplay;yea 774558;1406572241;carderplay;no 774559;1406572245;carderplay;yea am am 774560;1406572252;mircea_popescu;is this like indian candy post-op ? 774561;1406572256;carderplay;but who is gribble?? 774562;1406572259;rithm;i get all my quality news from the specualtion sub-forum 774563;1406572261;mircea_popescu;;;echo urmom 774564;1406572262;gribble;urmom 774565;1406572285;carderplay;yea griblle herE?? 774566;1406572298;rithm;gribbl is god 774567;1406572301;carderplay;can you get me authen?? 774568;1406572315;rithm;yes, I can get you authenticated 774569;1406572329;rithm;take your shoe off, place it on your head first 774570;1406572333;rithm;then take a selfie 774571;1406572334;jurov;just type /quit 774572;1406572337;benkay;;;8ball can carderplay get authenticated? 774573;1406572338;gribble;It shall be. 774574;1406572372;rithm;let me know once the shoe is on your head 774575;1406572379;carderplay;is it like a parliament here?? 774576;1406572384;carderplay;you take vote 774577;1406572391;benkay;no voting 774578;1406572391;mircea_popescu;oh for crying out loud. 774579;1406572393;carderplay;i tot you said there were dicators 774580;1406572398;benkay;no that's tat 774581;1406572399;mircea_popescu;!down carderplay 774582;1406572403;rithm;no, first you put your shoe on your head 774583;1406572404;benkay;!up carderplay 774584;1406572430;jurov;carderplay if you have nice tits read here: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ 774585;1406572431;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 774586;1406572433;mircea_popescu;buncha assholes stop playing with your food. 774587;1406572440;rithm;;;guide 774588;1406572441;gribble;Error: "guide" is not a valid command. 774589;1406572453;jurov;;;manul 774590;1406572455;gribble;Error: "manul" is not a valid command. 774591;1406572457;mircea_popescu;;;guido the gay head 774592;1406572457;gribble;Error: "guido" is not a valid command. 774593;1406572459;carderplay;anyway am straigth man 774594;1406572460;jurov;^ should be 774595;1406572474;carderplay;@jurov starigth ------- 774596;1406572482;rithm;;;ctell carderplay [guide] 774597;1406572482;gribble;Error: "guide" is not a valid command. 774598;1406572506;rithm;Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc 774599;1406572509;assbot;Using bitcoin-otc - bitcoin-otc wiki 774600;1406572516;rithm;gribble is broken here 774601;1406572526;carderplay;i begin to suspect that this place ifs filled with a bunch of bots 774602;1406572529;rithm;no one will help you, they are above it 774603;1406572535;FabianB;no, gribble has a whitelist of channels for ;;guide 774604;1406572543;rithm;i was going to help but i didn't get anough shoe on head 774605;1406572556;mircea_popescu;http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e8dee9bf1ec2bf89b279025df3c1859/tumblr_mjie78uPlp1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << omfg this suggests a wunderbar forum business idea. pay camwhores to hold up "kidnapped" signs and make teary eyed captured videos begging for ransom 774606;1406572563;mircea_popescu;then put the shit up on kickstarter/reddit/etc 774607;1406572570;mircea_popescu;each month pay dividends off the proceeds. 774608;1406572582;asciilifeform;ransomstarter. 774609;1406572595;rithm;jail for everyone. 774610;1406572601;mircea_popescu;could get all sorts of good taglines too. "making rape more family friendly" 774611;1406572613;mircea_popescu;"demistifying the great female equalizer" 774612;1406572616;asciilifeform;jail >> pay yer bail with bailstarter. 774613;1406572634;mircea_popescu;rithm wait, so basically some other dudes'd come to hold you for ransom ? 774614;1406572663;carderplay;what is the shoe on the head?? 774615;1406572666;rithm;some sort of inverted "release me" jailstarter 774616;1406572688;rithm;carderplay put your shoe on your head already if you want to be part of the club and selfie it 774617;1406572696;mircea_popescu;just illustrating exactly how weak any attempt at law enforcement is. 774618;1406572727;mircea_popescu;i mean, the expenditure of keeping clear channels empty... good god. how do you distinguish between someone screaming rape ironically and someone being raped ? and how do you keep a bunch of assholes from flooding THAT channel with spam ? 774619;1406572736;mircea_popescu;not like it can be done any other place. 774620;1406572776;carderplay;i learn it got to do with sex and chat rooms 774621;1406572787;mircea_popescu;essentially, turning the economy into "an economy of attention" was a fatal (if forced) mistake. without attention as a side channel organised work becomes impossible. 774622;1406572797;benkay;;;google buttcoins nao 774623;1406572798;gribble;They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 774624;1406572860;rithm;!down carderplay 774625;1406572867;rithm;that was abetter idea 774626;1406572924;kakobrekla;you are all evil bots. 774627;1406572950;rithm;no, i'm kakobrekla and you are mircea_popescu 774628;1406573106;jurov;bots do what bots want 774629;1406573122;assbot; i do what i want! 774630;1406573132;mircea_popescu;!up Decima| 774631;1406573134;mircea_popescu;!up phlurker 774632;1406573164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33248 @ 0.00080712 = 26.8351 BTC [+] {2} 774633;1406573206;rithm;oh darn 774634;1406573216;rithm;page closed eh 774635;1406573240;jurov;rithm you're into shoe selfies? 774636;1406573281;rithm;uh huh jurov. after you take the selfie, imgur it and send the URL to gribble to authenticate 774637;1406573315;mircea_popescu;shoelfies. 774638;1406573318;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> mike_c: the forum is.. toxic. << i thought you wanted to be there. << gross exaggeration. it is certainly not a place to go to discuss business. it is perhaps still good advertising to find customers. 774639;1406573330;mircea_popescu;and you figure you can divorce these at will ? 774640;1406573332;rithm;cesspool 774641;1406573338;mike_c;i'll let you know 774642;1406573344;jurov;poor gribble. imo assbot is better equipped for task. 774643;1406573346;rithm;cesspool is a good word to describe bitcointalk.org 774644;1406573348;mircea_popescu;careful, next you'll be in the position of the married, devout catholic going to gay bars. 774645;1406573355;mircea_popescu;this is how twinks get killed. 774646;1406573386;jurov;married, devout catholic twinks? where? 774647;1406573413;mike_c;i am far from convinced it is a good idea. but how do you get word out to lots of bitcoiners? not in the finance niche, more in the mass market. 774648;1406573449;kakobrekla;mike_c easy, promise 100% guaranteed profits. 774649;1406573460;mike_c;bitcoinpete is a pretty good bitcoin-assets marketer. perhaps i can convince him to write tweet about WoL ;) 774650;1406573473;mircea_popescu;jurov no, the twinks get killed the morning after, because they're coping with their post partum depression in their infantile way which brings up narcissistic rage in the ex-gay man now devout catholic again. 774651;1406573501;mircea_popescu;mike_c im kind of curious myself, not like it's forbidden or anything 774652;1406573504;mike_c;kakobrekla: that is for investment. and the going rate seems to be 12% a day 774653;1406573517;mircea_popescu;12% a day by now ? 774654;1406573522;kakobrekla;it works for anything 774655;1406573526;mircea_popescu;you know, that's indicative of how poor they are. 774656;1406573534;kakobrekla;buy this mop. 100% profit. ill take two! 774657;1406573541;mircea_popescu;back when they held a third to half the bitcoin in circulatiuon, 7% a week was good enough. 774658;1406573550;mike_c;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704388.0 774659;1406573550;assbot;★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ 774660;1406573552;mircea_popescu;now they must clearl hold less than 1%, so 12% a day is needed. 774661;1406573566;mircea_popescu;you see, the % they seek merely guides as to how much they'd have to make to break into relevancy. 774662;1406573581;kakobrekla;dunno why i still bother with anything given what market offers. 774663;1406573607;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla because when you stop bothering you become part of the meta-usg. 774664;1406573614;mike_c;you have to be HYIP (which i had to google) 774665;1406573618;mircea_popescu;how do you suppose the brave new world works ? 774666;1406573634;mircea_popescu;mike_c this because you don't read trilema, it's discussed (in passing) :P 774667;1406573640;jurov;http://pastebin.com/eMw3h92q carderplay on it 774668;1406573640;assbot;[20:49] !up? [20:50] sry you're too derpy [20:50]