696994;1401580890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.0008848 = 16.9439 BTC [+] 696995;1401581432;kakobrekla;and the smart card is inspectable? 696996;1401581489;mike_c;ping pankkake 696997;1401581493;benkay;kinda what i'm impling, kakobrekla 696998;1401581507;pankkake;mike_c: all is good now 696999;1401581713;mike_c;well, wanted to let you know i updated it a bit. if you look for an ad for a bet that I haven't picked up yet it goes and gets it in real time 697000;1401581726;pankkake;oh, great 697001;1401582842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.219 = 0.657 BTC [-] 697002;1401583025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23816262 BTC [+] 697003;1401583208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 133 @ 0.02701232 = 3.5926 BTC [-] {4} 697004;1401583345;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-updates-monarch-revises-imperial-pcb/ 697005;1401583346;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-mining-update-0530/ 697006;1401583347;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/dish-network-accepting-bitcoin/ 697007;1401583348;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/grid-data-btcchina-btce-bitstamp/ 697008;1401584062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00088422 = 14.2802 BTC [-] 697009;1401584764;decimation;asciilifeform: re:isolation transformers http://www.iso-puck.com/contents/en-us/d20_Price_List.html 697010;1401584765;assbot;Price Lists 697011;1401584775;decimation;Not cheap, I cannot vouch for the quality 697012;1401584803;decimation;found them googling around. There are also transformers sold for the yacht market, but I'm sure they are more expensive 697013;1401584831;decimation;I wanted to buy a 1:2 transformer to step-up my 120 volt generator to 240 volt for heavy appliances 697014;1401584890;decimation;I found a few but it was clearly not a mainstream product. What would be nice is to combine an isolation transformer with two secondary windings so you can choose your output voltage 697015;1401584969;decimation;it seems to me that the 120 volt standard in the US is extremely wasteful of valuable copper. The US should switch to the global 220/240 v standard. 697016;1401585047;decimation;This bridgeport magnetics group also sells isolation transformers designed for use in streetlights: http://www.bridgeportmagnetics.com/streetlight.html - available on a street near you :) 697017;1401585047;assbot;Streetlight Isolation Transformers 697018;1401585100;decimation;re: marine isoloation transformers http://www.sail-world.com/index.cfm?Nid=84973&refre=y&ntid=0&rid=3 697019;1401585101;assbot;Sail-World.com : Why You Should Add an Isolation Transformer to your Boat 697020;1401585159;decimation;Although there were 'No Swimming' signs that warned of the danger of electrocution, it was common practice for patrons to swim at the marina. ... Samantha tried to climb on a raft with Margaret when she suddenly started jerking in the water. ... Another boater dove in to save Samantha. He was shocked too and barely escaped with his life. Sadly, Samantha died. 697021;1401585201;decimation;pro tip: when someone is jerking randomly in the water below a "no swimming - danger of electrocution" sign, don't jump in to rescue 697022;1401585953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 69 @ 0.21216524 = 14.6394 BTC [-] {5} 697023;1401586868;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00088344 = 17.978 BTC [-] {2} 697024;1401587905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08838 = 0.1768 BTC [-] 697025;1401588515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00088061 = 6.6046 BTC [-] 697026;1401589186;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00088043 = 24.0798 BTC [-] {2} 697027;1401589674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00200302 = 0.2003 BTC [-] {4} 697028;1401589797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10418 @ 0.00088097 = 9.1779 BTC [+] 697029;1401589980;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 697030;1401589981;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 635.12, Best ask: 636.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.68000, Last trade: 636.8, 24 hour volume: 9707.94045991, 24 hour low: 611.0, 24 hour high: 636.95, 24 hour vwap: 623.512321046 697031;1401590040;mircea_popescu;!jd mpif 697032;1401590040;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 166.97404975 BTC; +0.01831254 BTC (+0.0110%) since last check 3h 49m 52s ago. 697033;1401590160;mircea_popescu;Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 46 via 27 connections.<< epic 697034;1401590345;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00088148 = 16.7922 BTC [+] {2} 697035;1401590355;asciilifeform;re: dumbcards: 697036;1401590355;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2014#560871 697037;1401590356;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 697038;1401590369;asciilifeform;(love the log, spares my keyboard years of life) 697039;1401590434;mircea_popescu;definitely. 697040;1401590480;mircea_popescu;jurov: someday people with perfect hearing will end up wearing hearing aids with noise suppression << i'll wear assault rifles with noise supression before i do tha.t 697041;1401590518;asciilifeform;don't knock antiphase headphone till you've tried it. great in airplanes, machine rooms. 697042;1401590615;joecool;asciilifeform: meh, isolation > antiphase 697043;1401590648;asciilifeform;there's a reason everybody doesn't simply wear rifle range headphones on the plane 697044;1401590654;asciilifeform;you get sweaty 697045;1401590716;joecool;ah i use IEM's, they fit in pocket 697046;1401590751;asciilifeform;i still have mine from uni 697047;1401590813;asciilifeform;scratch that - iem appears to be actual headphone. thought you meant plugs, as used by construction crews 697048;1401590831;joecool;no, i mean balanced armatures 697049;1401590849;asciilifeform;decimation: those transformers are 'golden toilet' priced - no surprise, given the 'medical' label 697050;1401590895;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43698 @ 0.00088063 = 38.4818 BTC [-] {2} 697051;1401590944;joecool;asciilifeform: i wasn't talking about hw bitcoin wallet implementations, i was talking about openpgp smartcard implementations 697052;1401590953;asciilifeform;joecool: same problems 697053;1401590969;asciilifeform;joecool: 1) pc knows that dedicated crypto hardware is connected. compromised pc can then mitm the user. 697054;1401590984;asciilifeform;joecool: 2) vlsi - thus non-inspectable - rng and cryptographic functionality. 697055;1401591031;decimation;re: antiphase headphones - they give me a weird headache if I use them too long. Also I find that they have rolloff at the lower frequencies 697056;1401591058;asciilifeform;decimation: same. this is because they inevitably emit an audible hiss of their own. 697057;1401591058;decimation;I found really great NASCAR earphones that have 30 dB attenuation down to low frequencies - I look like a tool on the airplane 697058;1401591061;joecool;rolloff at lower freq is usually due to running inefficient low impedance headphones off a bad source 697059;1401591077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00199663 = 0.1458 BTC [-] 697060;1401591090;joecool;can be solved with an amp, i didn't believe sensitive IEM's would be affected till i had a pair with a picky crossover 697061;1401591101;joecool;switched to an amp and they sounded like a very different pair 697062;1401591101;decimation;To be fair I haven't purchased the fancy "pilot quality" headphones made by bose etc. 697063;1401591131;asciilifeform;bose is a terrific scam (what spends so much on glossy magazine ads, and isn't ?) 697064;1401591133;joecool;i'm a big fan of westone's products, i switched to them from shure awhile back 697065;1401591170;decimation;old school pilots use passive david clark headphones 697066;1401591224;decimation;I also wonder if the antiphase headphones are modulating my eardrums at frequencies beyond my perception 697067;1401591229;joecool;asciilifeform: i don't generate keys on card for the rng issue, need to upload from laptop, but yeah sure no way to enter pin outside the laptop 697068;1401591238;joecool;so collecting keystrokes could give pin 697069;1401591253;joecool;the only assurance you have is a signature counter in the smartcard 697070;1401591263;asciilifeform;joecool: not only this, but laptop 'knows' that a crypto gizmo is connected. 697071;1401591288;asciilifeform;fails the 'would you plug this in at dr. evil's house?' test. 697072;1401591294;joecool;asciilifeform: pretty sure in the case of the smartcard it needs to initialize the card to know that it is, all it sees is a reader otherwise 697073;1401591321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 18 @ 0.11593333 = 2.0868 BTC [-] {2} 697074;1401591382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 12 @ 0.11 = 1.32 BTC [-] 697075;1401591383;asciilifeform;if you plug dumbcard into a pwned box, it will sign whatever the enemy wants to sign. 697076;1401591420;joecool;asciilifeform: not without a pin 697077;1401591428;asciilifeform;the very next time victim enters pin. 697078;1401591443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.077101 = 0.1542 BTC [+] {2} 697079;1401591506;asciilifeform;orthogonal to this is the other problem, that you (owner) have no way of verifying what it is the gizmo is capable of 697080;1401591528;asciilifeform;(e.g. the hardcoded master key that inevitably turns up in audits of various crapware) 697081;1401591555;decimation;ascii have you seen this paper http://www.ee.usyd.edu.au/people/philip.leong/UserFiles/File/papers/wallace_tvlsi05.pdf 697082;1401591561;asciilifeform;joecool: i don't generate keys on card << still has rng, for signature nonces. 697083;1401591565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07500202 = 0.225 BTC [-] {2} 697084;1401591595;decimation;You can just put the user 4-digit pin into a key derivation algorithm :) 697085;1401591618;mircea_popescu;ouch. 697086;1401591625;asciilifeform;am i the only one here who remembers how rsa sig algo works !? 697087;1401591626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.075001 = 0.3 BTC [-] 697088;1401591644;joecool;asciilifeform: probably, I honestly never looked at that, will go read now 697089;1401591723;asciilifeform;decimation: LFSRs suck. and virtually every academic treatise on rng design assumes a very impoverished physical entropy source. 697090;1401591732;asciilifeform;why? ask the builders, not me 697091;1401591748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 307 @ 0.07217058 = 22.1564 BTC [-] {18} 697092;1401591753;decimation;well, to be fair I think the application is to generate noise for comms. simulation purposes, not crypto 697093;1401591787;asciilifeform;even for simulation purposes (actually the original source of my interest in rng design, years ago) lfsr is crap. you get creeping periodicities. 697094;1401591790;mircea_popescu;benkay, "it's all hazy probability fields at this point" << so start before you fly over, get a nice scorpio, maybe it turns out a girl with big green eyes etc. 697095;1401591809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07013204 = 0.7013 BTC [-] {4} 697096;1401591822;decimation;it's a good point. Part of the problem is that actual calibrated analog noise sources are expensive 697097;1401591827;asciilifeform;your simulated annealing turd won't converge, you'll sit & curse the gods 697098;1401591842;decimation;but but ascii they said it's good to 8 sigma! 697099;1401591847;decimation;K-S tests etc 697100;1401591849;asciilifeform;decimation: lol. 697101;1401591870;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07000011 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 697102;1401591917;mircea_popescu;chairforce1: im really good at losing money << such skillz. 697103;1401591934;decimation;Last I called, NIST wanted $5-10k for "labor costs" to measure the phase noise of a microwave oscillator 697104;1401591945;decimation;was going to be 4 hours work max 697105;1401591956;mircea_popescu;oscialltors are iffy tho 697106;1401591960;asciilifeform;decimation: rng design that involves the purchase of an active volcano is probably expensive too. 697107;1401591967;asciilifeform;'doctor it hurts when i do that. -- don't do that.' 697108;1401591988;decimation;I feel better about a device when it has a calibration seal 697109;1401592018;asciilifeform;if it's a crypto gizmo and has seal - which i didn't put there - i've no interest in it. 697110;1401592026;mircea_popescu;^ 697111;1401592030;mircea_popescu;seals are scam in crypto 697112;1401592044;joecool;mircea_popescu: stickers always make things work better 697113;1401592045;decimation;this is true, and even the pros know it 697114;1401592063;mircea_popescu;it's almost like wanting to marry a virgin specifically. 697115;1401592068;asciilifeform;seals don't even keep poor buggers from fucking with electric meters. 697116;1401592078;mircea_popescu;joecool, finally someone explained bumper stickers to me. 697117;1401592087;mircea_popescu;that's why all the old chryslers and whatnot have them 697118;1401592096;joecool;covers the rust 697119;1401592098;decimation;if your crypto wasn't designed to defeat someone who knows everything about how it works, then you are not in the crypto business 697120;1401592135;mircea_popescu;;;google ne me touche pas 697121;1401592135;gribble;Ne me touche pas - French - English Translation and Examples: ; arrete,arrete,ne me touche pas. - YouTube: ; PATRICIA CARLI 1963 Arrête, arrête, ne me touche pas... - YouTube: 697122;1401592155;asciilifeform;aside from this, even a hypothetically impregnable seal is an attack against the owner (he cannot examine the package either) 697123;1401592175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10032 @ 0.00008209 = 0.8235 BTC [-] {6} 697124;1401592195;mircea_popescu;chairforce1: 697125;1401592195;mircea_popescu;so what is to gain from this jerking in this circle as opposed to others? 697126;1401592218;decimation;ascii does any commercial device you know about meet this criteria? 697127;1401592220;mircea_popescu;ask not what you gain from us or how did it go 697128;1401592230;decimation;USG doesn't share either: http://www.samm.dsca.mil/loanote/communication-security-comsec-transmission-security-transec-devices-sold-fms-for-integration 697129;1401592237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4053 @ 0.00007939 = 0.3218 BTC [-] {9} 697130;1401592241;asciilifeform;decimation: if it did, i'da bought it, and wouldn't be trying to build 697131;1401592249;decimation;heh good point 697132;1401592297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0001014 = 0.507 BTC [-] {35} 697133;1401592330;asciilifeform;decimation: pretty much everyone fucks the goat right off the starting line - by using a vlsi rng 697134;1401592358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.026305 = 0.5261 BTC [-] 697135;1401592375;decimation;when you think about it, that's pretty silly, considering how easy it would be to use an analog noise source 697136;1401592383;asciilifeform;decimation: now the cost of auditing device becomes $10mil. 697137;1401592404;asciilifeform;(electron microscope, ion beam machine, etc.) 697138;1401592419;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 370 @ 0.00317717 = 1.1756 BTC [-] {11} 697139;1401592427;decimation;they could use a revese-biased external diode with an A/D or comperator or whatever 697140;1401592427;asciilifeform;$100k if you know a fellow who owns the above and trust him. 697141;1401592447;asciilifeform;decimation: there is no arcane secret in building a decent analogue rng. 697142;1401592452;asciilifeform;undergrad-level project. 697143;1401592480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0008816 = 4.7606 BTC [+] 697144;1401592480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1000 @ 0.00025176 = 0.2518 BTC [-] {16} 697145;1401592481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02658 = 0.1063 BTC [-] 697146;1401592492;decimation;the next problem: they have an auditable RNG, but how do you know they are actually using it? 697147;1401592567;asciilifeform;decimation: i'll helpfully point out where this line of thought ends: if you can't re-create the device in its entirety from the published docs, it isn't worth using. 697148;1401592585;asciilifeform;(not that anything which passes this test is automatically worth using) 697149;1401592607;asciilifeform;just as not all things which aren't poisonous are good to eat for dinner 697150;1401592623;decimation;you should implement RSA in 74xx series logic 697151;1401592629;TheNewDeal;is this about the NSA dealio? 697152;1401592640;decimation;eh? 697153;1401592645;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: it's about the basic question of what it means to trust a machine 697154;1401592664;TheNewDeal;I thought MPEX's NSA was developing some RNG 697155;1401592680;TheNewDeal;or perhaps that was just one component? 697156;1401592688;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: i built the rng. yes, it is only one of the components. 697157;1401592688;decimation;ah yes it's related to that 697158;1401592717;TheNewDeal;I guess "NSA dealio" was a little... nonspecific 697159;1401592730;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1475 << mp, other friends, and an rng 697160;1401592732;assbot;Loper OS » Trilema 2014 697161;1401592733;joecool;i have no idea what my keyboard controller is capable of anymore, so yeah points totally valid 697162;1401592762;asciilifeform;(small blue rectangle in bottom right hand size of first photo) 697163;1401592774;asciilifeform;*side 697164;1401592804;TheNewDeal;mp actually helped design that? didn't know he had that know-how 697165;1401592820;TheNewDeal;Thought I heard him say something about hardware not being his fortay 697166;1401592829;asciilifeform;mp provided a reason why to do it. and useful tips on related subjects. 697167;1401592842;decimation;your last comment about discrete logic lead me to research the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-17B 697168;1401592842;assbot;D-17B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 697169;1401592861;asciilifeform;my uni's first computer was a d-17b 697170;1401592878;asciilifeform;afaik they still have it in a closet somewhere. 697171;1401592884;decimation;the idea of swapping out a card in your CPU is amusing to me 697172;1401592898;asciilifeform;decimation: until the late '70s, all cpu designs were of this kind 697173;1401592931;asciilifeform;(not discrete switches, at the end, naturally - rather, 'bit-slice' logic) 697174;1401592949;TheNewDeal;oh my gosh, just talked to t his electrician the other day that told me he used to do maintenance on card sorters, like IBM's 074. Just thought I'd toss that in on the topic of old hardware 697175;1401592968;asciilifeform;card sorter - so you don't have to kill the fellow who dropped a deck. 697176;1401592983;asciilifeform;(with the 'card knife,' which came with the reader.) 697177;1401592998;TheNewDeal;hahaha 697178;1401593026;TheNewDeal;I though the card sorter was the actual machine that computed, no> 697179;1401593035;asciilifeform;nope. just sorted. 697180;1401593051;TheNewDeal;oh my gosh 697181;1401593069;decimation;Also I found this amusing link: http://blog.notdot.net/2012/10/Build-your-own-FPGA 697182;1401593069;assbot;Build your own FPGA - Nick's Blog 697183;1401593073;TheNewDeal;now I understand why that crazy comp science teacher told me I had it easy 697184;1401593114;asciilifeform;decimation: the most basic 'jungle fpga' is just your ordinary ROM. 697185;1401593121;asciilifeform;you can do logic (inefficiently) with a rom. 697186;1401593130;asciilifeform;(if you can't see how, think for a minute) 697187;1401593145;decimation;yeah I guess you can just craw through its contents turing-machine style 697188;1401593151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00088301 = 17.2628 BTC [+] {2} 697189;1401593189;TheNewDeal;I'm going to go enjoy a smoke and ponder that thought 697190;1401593286;mircea_popescu; mp actually helped design that? didn't know he had that know-how << i'm really good at piggybacking on people's work. 697191;1401593371;decimation;Yeah I guess you can wire the address lines for the input to link to the outputs you want to simulate 697192;1401593386;decimation;implementing a turing machine would just re-invent the cpu model 697193;1401593404;TheNewDeal;haha 697194;1401593509;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: dark secret: mp studied maths, physics 697195;1401593610;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete "He fleeced -assette extraordinaire kakobrekla for 145 BTC" doesn't seem an accurate rendition. iirc usagi sold pirate insurance, which he paid up on. 697196;1401593611;gribble;The operation succeeded. 697197;1401593736;mircea_popescu;pankkake, the "if both your house and your bank burn down you don't care" theory is pure nonsense. 697198;1401593746;mircea_popescu;coupla years ago a hurricane hit new york with a lot of watter. 697199;1401593757;mircea_popescu;guess what ? buncha rich folks houses were underwater 697200;1401593767;mircea_popescu;and so was a major vault hoilding trillions worth of paper. 697201;1401593805;mircea_popescu;(which, btw, is STILL to this day not fully unwound) 697202;1401594066;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00088162 = 23.6274 BTC [-] 697203;1401594168;mircea_popescu;!up bigdude 697204;1401594332;TheNewDeal;oooh 697205;1401594336;TheNewDeal;speaking of dark secrets... 697206;1401594364;TheNewDeal;mircea_popescu I've been trying to find a list of premine / scamcoins that you provided in the past. It was in a wikipedia format. Can't find it in the logs 697207;1401594389;TheNewDeal;I was inquiring about darkcoin when you brought it up 697208;1401594403;asciilifeform;http://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/photogallery/mwr/park/mimi/420B3C81-155D-4519-3E9D3013478486BF/420B3C81-155D-4519-3E9D3013478486BF.jpg 697209;1401594418;asciilifeform;(from http://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=A37956F8-155D-4519-3E9920D57BA0886A# - 'minuteman' lock) 697210;1401594418;assbot;Photo Gallery (U.S. National Park Service) 697211;1401594426;asciilifeform;and... 697212;1401594428;asciilifeform;https://www.google.com/patents/US3035433?dq=3035433 697213;1401594429;assbot;Patent US3035433 - Lock mechanism - Google Patents 697214;1401594434;asciilifeform;because now we have the net. 697215;1401594444;asciilifeform;and eyes. 697216;1401594496;asciilifeform;apparently, this is a famous lock. 697217;1401594540;decimation;there was some dumb tv show like pawn stars or something like that where some guy was trying to sell a "missile key" for $30k if I recall 697218;1401594547;asciilifeform;also found in chicago elevators. 697219;1401594554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00199999 = 0.2 BTC [-] 697220;1401594592;TheNewDeal;like a fireman's lock? 697221;1401594597;asciilifeform;correct 697222;1401594615;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4421 @ 0.00088304 = 3.9039 BTC [+] 697223;1401594627;decimation;Because you know the weak link in your undrground missile silo with 10 ton doors is ... the missile launch lock 697224;1401594638;asciilifeform;the lock, as all locks, 'keeps honest man honest' 697225;1401594737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.026305 = 0.3157 BTC [-] 697226;1401594753;asciilifeform;missile lock is ceremonial item. in both american and russian procedural manuals, one turn-key is instructed to compel the other by force of arms if he refuses to carry out his half of the ritual. 697227;1401594775;TheNewDeal;asciilifeform how did you know about chicago elevators? Is that were you reside? I'm working in Chicago for the next week... 697228;1401594788;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: nope. just read a little about the lock. 697229;1401594803;TheNewDeal;shucks 697230;1401594816;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: re: elevator locks: a few years ago, a photo of a new york elevator key was posted on the net. people promptly rushed to their cnc lathes... 697231;1401594927;TheNewDeal;hahaha 697232;1401594966;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Rocket_Communications_System amusing SAC strange 697233;1401594966;assbot;AN/DRC-8 Emergency Rocket Communications System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 697234;1401595013;decimation;yo dawg, we heard to launch icbms 697235;1401595122;decimation;I mean "yo dawg, we heard you like to launch ICBMs - so we put an ICBM launch in your ICBM lauches" 697236;1401595243;joecool;lock looks difficult to pick 697237;1401595286;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02658 = 0.1063 BTC [-] 697238;1401596323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.08589899 = 2.2334 BTC [+] {8} 697239;1401596506;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00088049 = 10.6302 BTC [-] {2} 697240;1401596811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00087941 = 18.4236 BTC [-] {3} 697241;1401596994;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00088304 = 15.2766 BTC [+] 697242;1401597536;artifexd;There are many payment processors that take bitcoin and give the seller fiat. I'd like to see a payment processor that takes fiat and gives the seller btc. 697243;1401597544;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00088255 = 14.1208 BTC [-] {2} 697244;1401597604;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00088152 = 6.6996 BTC [-] 697245;1401597790;asciilifeform;artifexd: anyone who collects fiat from the 'unwashed masses' is a candidate for 'having problems' eventually. 697246;1401597806;asciilifeform;it can in principle be done - like inertial confinement fusion - but go and try. 697247;1401597970;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4228 @ 0.00088477 = 3.7408 BTC [+] 697248;1401599495;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00088216 = 3.7492 BTC [-] {2} 697249;1401599861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-] 697250;1401599982;benkay;artifexd: https://coinvoice.com/ 697251;1401599983;assbot;Coinvoice | Home 697252;1401600104;artifexd;asciilifeform: Exactly why I'd like to offload that to someone else. 697253;1401600105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.18107586 = 5.2512 BTC [-] {5} 697254;1401600116;artifexd;benkay: Huh. Sweet. Thanks. 697255;1401600166;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 464 @ 0.00160022 = 0.7425 BTC [-] {16} 697256;1401600175;artifexd;Unfortunately they don't take plastic. Only wire transfers and forms of money-by-mail. 697257;1401600177;artifexd;:( 697258;1401600477;benkay;lol plastic and btc 697259;1401600513;benkay;if btc is - and fiat is + then plastic is chaos and on an entirely different axis orthogonal to both crypto and fiat somehow 697260;1401600583;artifexd;Sadly, the current state of the unwashed masses on the internet is that if one wants their money, one must deal with the credit card networks. 697261;1401600715;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 203 @ 0.00243378 = 0.4941 BTC [-] 697262;1401600905;benkay;what are you doing with the unwashed masses, artifexd ? 697263;1401600910;benkay;;;gettrust poutine 697264;1401600910;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask poutine!poutine@the.infamous.poutine.pw. Trust relationship from user benkay to user poutine: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=poutine | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=poutine | Rated since: never 697265;1401600941;benkay;poutine: what are you and dignork working on? 697266;1401601042;artifexd;Eh. Nothing major. I wrote some software many years ago that still sells enough to make it worth my time to keep the website up. Making purchases go straight to bitcoin would be nice. 697267;1401602241;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00088385 = 25.4549 BTC [+] {2} 697268;1401602511;dignork;benkay: sorry, i typed into wrong window, we tried to play with multisig transactions on testnet 697269;1401602972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-] 697270;1401603094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.026305 = 0.1052 BTC [-] 697271;1401603766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8172 @ 0.00088477 = 7.2303 BTC [+] 697272;1401604436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.0008858 = 16.5202 BTC [+] {2} 697273;1401605351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18024999 = 1.442 BTC [-] {3} 697274;1401605473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17075 = 0.683 BTC [-] {3} 697275;1401605717;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.0008864 = 25.9715 BTC [+] {3} 697276;1401605961;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00088511 = 1.9472 BTC [-] 697277;1401606144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0008831 = 9.8907 BTC [-] {3} 697278;1401606510;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00088669 = 8.2462 BTC [+] {2} 697279;1401606754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 34 @ 0.00443082 = 0.1506 BTC [+] {2} 697280;1401606998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1993 @ 0.00088239 = 1.7586 BTC [-] {2} 697281;1401607242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17 = 0.34 BTC [-] 697282;1401607425;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39950 @ 0.00088746 = 35.454 BTC [+] {4} 697283;1401608157;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00088233 = 10.7644 BTC [-] 697284;1401608767;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00088144 = 15.6015 BTC [-] {3} 697285;1401609194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08800002 = 0.264 BTC [+] 697286;1401609987;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13703 @ 0.00088346 = 12.1061 BTC [+] 697287;1401610841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.026306 = 0.2631 BTC [+] {10} 697288;1401611939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40250 @ 0.00088067 = 35.447 BTC [-] {3} 697289;1401612061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00087935 = 8.7935 BTC [-] 697290;1401612427;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.026306 = 0.1578 BTC [+] {6} 697291;1401612610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0273 = 0.1365 BTC [+] 697292;1401612854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0273 = 0.273 BTC [+] 697293;1401612915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0273 = 0.1092 BTC [+] 697294;1401613037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07419024 = 0.2968 BTC [-] {3} 697295;1401613342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [+] 697296;1401613403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08424 = 0.1685 BTC [+] 697297;1401613464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.15488887 = 3.7173 BTC [-] {11} 697298;1401613525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.1321126 = 7.7946 BTC [-] {4} 697299;1401613709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00088601 = 23.8337 BTC [+] {3} 697300;1401613891;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00152977 = 0.1361 BTC [-] {3} 697301;1401614074;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00150106 = 0.1501 BTC [-] {4} 697302;1401614501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.13508333 = 0.8105 BTC [+] {2} 697303;1401614623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0014515 = 0.1452 BTC [-] {3} 697304;1401614624;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 99 @ 0.134 = 13.266 BTC [-] 697305;1401614684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 237 @ 0.12852048 = 30.4594 BTC [-] {8} 697306;1401614685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 391 @ 0.00139161 = 0.5441 BTC [-] {5} 697307;1401614806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00134086 = 0.1274 BTC [-] {4} 697308;1401614928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00130657 = 0.1986 BTC [-] {3} 697309;1401614929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6051 @ 0.00087935 = 5.3209 BTC [-] 697310;1401615050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 120 @ 0.02785665 = 3.3428 BTC [+] {6} 697311;1401615111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 68 @ 0.02854995 = 1.9414 BTC [+] {4} 697312;1401615172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 60 @ 0.02922333 = 1.7534 BTC [+] {2} 697313;1401615173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+] 697314;1401616026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00087935 = 15.3886 BTC [-] 697315;1401616331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00134897 = 0.1147 BTC [+] 697316;1401616392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.15703925 BTC [+] 697317;1401616880;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15765 @ 0.00087935 = 13.863 BTC [-] 697318;1401617063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11705 @ 0.00087935 = 10.2928 BTC [-] 697319;1401618344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2} 697320;1401618491;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/270lki/joshua_zipkin_of_amt_advance_mining_technologies/ 697321;1401618492;assbot;Joshua Zipkin of AMT (Advance Mining Technologies) threaten to kill a fellow Bitcoiner. : Bitcoin 697322;1401618499;fluffypony;aha ah ahhahahahaha hahaha haa 697323;1401618894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.15703246 BTC [-] 697324;1401619076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.16029455 = 0.4809 BTC [+] {3} 697325;1401619137;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00087927 = 25.1471 BTC [-] {3} 697326;1401619260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.15563779 = 0.4669 BTC [-] {3} 697327;1401619320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00142263 = 0.1992 BTC [+] 697328;1401619503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07590334 = 4.706 BTC [-] {3} 697329;1401619933;fluffypony;;;seen bitcoinpete 697330;1401619933;gribble;bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: i do… aug 30 to sept 10 697331;1401620052;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00087955 = 14.6885 BTC [+] {2} 697332;1401620803;pankkake;fluffypony: as always, MP did it first 697333;1401620823;fluffypony;I feel like I'm left out 697334;1401620828;fluffypony;I need to threaten someone 697335;1401620845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17208494 BTC [+] 697336;1401620850;fluffypony;maybe we can have "Riccardo Spagni threatens to kill Parisian on IRC!" on Reddit next 697337;1401620906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51400 @ 0.00088241 = 45.3559 BTC [+] {4} 697338;1401620906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17435898 BTC [+] 697339;1401620910;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634344.0 LOL 697340;1401620910;assbot;[ASICMINER] lawsuit 697341;1401620967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 218 @ 0.00182267 = 0.3973 BTC [-] {7} 697342;1401621333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3606 @ 0.00088569 = 3.1938 BTC [+] 697343;1401621456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17740716 BTC [+] 697344;1401621521;pankkake;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/activemining-official-shareholder-discussion-thread-moderated.259468/page-270#post-6765921 697345;1401621521;assbot;[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] | Page 270 | Bitcointa.lk 697346;1401621551;pankkake;!up skinnkavaj 697347;1401621717;pankkake;;;later tell mircea_popescu storing your only two backups in the same city is no doubt risky, but still it's unlikely that you manage to salvage none if case of a natural disaster. one of the reasons I don't think paper is the ultimate backup though 697348;1401621717;gribble;The operation succeeded. 697349;1401621821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17956706 BTC [+] 697350;1401621943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.16099966 = 0.644 BTC [-] {4} 697351;1401621944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12835 @ 0.00088569 = 11.3678 BTC [+] 697352;1401621985;fluffypony;pankkake: at some point we need to diverge from talking about backups-in-general to talking about backups-of-Bitcoin-wallets 697353;1401622001;fluffypony;we've been mingling the two 697354;1401622018;pankkake;yes, well, my bitcoin wallet has more backups because it's easier 697355;1401622050;fluffypony;yeah exactly 697356;1401622092;pankkake;and since they're not done the same way, it really would have to a catastrophic failure to lose it 697357;1401622158;pankkake;my point is just that n+1 is much better than n; just a game of probabilities 697358;1401622223;fluffypony;yep - and the reality is that a natural disaster that destroys a city will probably affect your business' ability to function anyway 697359;1401622345;pankkake;depends on the business, something like say Bitbet would be only temporary 697360;1401622357;pankkake;and losing the funds would be devastating 697361;1401622381;fluffypony;true 697362;1401623162;fluffypony;asciilifeform will enjoy this - guy debunks this solar roadway thing that raised $1.8 million on Indiegogo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4 697363;1401623162;assbot;Solar FREAKIN Roadways, are they real? - YouTube 697364;1401623224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750011 = 0.75 BTC [-] 697365;1401623518;Mats_cd03;meow 697366;1401623529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07500034 = 1.5 BTC [-] {3} 697367;1401623530;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17956707 BTC [+] 697368;1401623573;fluffypony;Mats_cd03: muzak plx 697369;1401623596;jurov;https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jXDA2RZd-C8/U4oSxzKW_MI/AAAAAAAAAiU/nJ2yph1KSOg/w1380-h923-no/P1040384.JPG lawyer talking about btc regulation. of course 697370;1401623645;jurov;( from CEBE Vienna - https://plus.google.com/115680799946601296833/posts/a3UCv8SLLJA ) 697371;1401623652;jurov;good i did not go 697372;1401623695;Mats_cd03;http://youtu.be/uB_zi69GQFg 697373;1401623695;assbot;Lay Me Down - The Oh Hello's - YouTube 697374;1401623713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.02660043 = 0.1596 BTC [-] 697375;1401623773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17957367 = 0.3591 BTC [+] {2} 697376;1401623831;Mats_cd03;Take me home... I want to go... 697377;1401623834;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17957367 BTC [+] 697378;1401623895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17957367 BTC [+] 697379;1401623896;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00088647 = 21.0093 BTC [+] {2} 697380;1401623956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17957388 = 0.3591 BTC [+] {2} 697381;1401624120;Mats_cd03;http://youtu.be/AObC5VKMdEc 697382;1401624120;assbot;The Oh Hellos - Hello My Old Heart - YouTube 697383;1401624132;jurov;https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--k5UKXJctow/U4oM6quBZFI/AAAAAAAAAPM/-DjBJ7reve0/w957-h1431-no/P1040300.JPG do you know how much they ask for one tile? 697384;1401624200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750001 = 0.75 BTC [-] 697385;1401624227;Mats_cd03;My brain read 'counterintelligence telegraph' 697386;1401624261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1794 BTC [-] 697387;1401624266;jurov;whole gallery is lulzworthy 697388;1401624335;jurov;Mats_cd03: they asked us about 1BTC depending on placement ... either it's just opening of the negotiations 697389;1401624362;jurov;or kako's utter fail he isn't asking more, too 697390;1401624383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1795741 BTC [+] 697391;1401624408;Mats_cd03;I wonder how many people have been suckered 697392;1401624422;fluffypony;uh 697393;1401624434;fluffypony;you're telling me that's a 300 BTC wall? 697394;1401624434;fluffypony;on a poster? 697395;1401624566;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00088673 = 21.3259 BTC [+] 697396;1401624796;Mats_cd03;some serious hustle by counterintelligence graph 697397;1401624810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075001 = 0.75 BTC [+] 697398;1401624871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1795741 BTC [+] 697399;1401624932;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0295 = 0.59 BTC [+] 697400;1401625054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 26 @ 0.02969997 = 0.7722 BTC [+] {2} 697401;1401625115;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 106 @ 0.02997351 = 3.1772 BTC [+] {5} 697402;1401625116;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2339 @ 0.00088569 = 2.0716 BTC [-] 697403;1401625176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.185 = 0.925 BTC [+] 697404;1401625329;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628000.0 697405;1401625329;assbot;A Summary of Phinnaeus Gage's Investigation into Brock Pierce Thus Far 697406;1401625420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.185 BTC [+] 697407;1401625549;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=468095.msg5166483#msg5166483 697408;1401625550;assbot;Which Bitcoin Client do you use and why ? 697409;1401625603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18666666 = 1.12 BTC [+] {2} 697410;1401625663;BingoBoingo;A bunch of now worthless hiding places http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/05/no_author/want-to-hide-handguns-at-home/ 697411;1401625666;assbot;Want To Hide Handguns at Home? – LewRockwell.com 697412;1401625666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+] 697413;1401625731;fluffypony;ah. 697414;1401625732;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/cash-strapped-multibit-developers-charge-transaction-fee/ 697415;1401625733;assbot;Cash-Strapped MultiBit Developers to Charge Transaction Fee 697416;1401625739;fluffypony;so that's how MultiBit is planning on making money 697417;1401625788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.19 = 2.47 BTC [+] {2} 697418;1401625873;mircea_popescu;goood mornin' assets. 697419;1401625910;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19 = 1.9 BTC [+] 697420;1401625931;mircea_popescu;so, for any of the hungry young wolves out there : come to buenos aires. 697421;1401625960;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Still moonstruck by the beef? 697422;1401625961;mircea_popescu;argentina is an incredibly rich country populated by the most pompous, clueless, ineffective and ineffectual people i have encounter in my entire life, travelling five continents. 697423;1401625971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 697424;1401625972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00171786 = 0.1718 BTC [+] {7} 697425;1401625973;mircea_popescu;the egyptians have more of a clue, and they're mostly illiterate. 697426;1401625985;mircea_popescu;if you can't make a million here, there's something seriously wrong with your head. 697427;1401626031;mircea_popescu;i am literally getting a billion dollar idea a day just walking down the fucking street and noticing that wait, they actually don't have x ? bwahahahaha etc. 697428;1401626032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.23 = 0.46 BTC [+] 697429;1401626092;mircea_popescu;that's why they have capital controls in place. it has nothing to do with banking. it has to do with how helpless the avearage argentine is. in an open competition with the rest of the world, it'd take about three weeks to bleed the country dry. 697430;1401626154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [+] 697431;1401626250;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, lol that'll go over well im sure. their userbase is just as cash strapped. 697432;1401626286;fluffypony;what's really funny is this line: "The person behind Electrum, one of the other five wallets, also failed to respond." 697433;1401626295;fluffypony;meanwhile he's on IRC every day 697434;1401626300;fluffypony;and his email address is public 697435;1401626318;fluffypony;[14:29:35] ThomasV: I saw that email well after they sent it, because they did not use my normal email address 697436;1401626320;mircea_popescu;but maybe he did in fact fail to respond 697437;1401626324;mircea_popescu;o 697438;1401626325;fluffypony;[14:30:36] ThomasV: they sent it to my research address, with a deadline for answering 697439;1401626333;mircea_popescu;lol mk 697440;1401626341;fluffypony;[14:32:39] ThomasV: actually I believe I gave my business card to a journalist from coindesk during the amsterdam conference 697441;1401626348;fluffypony;coindesk journalism ++ 697442;1401626398;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00087903 = 13.4492 BTC [-] 697443;1401626581;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18608 @ 0.00087902 = 16.3568 BTC [-] {2} 697444;1401626739;chetty;http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bergdahl-release-arrangement-could-threaten-the-safety-of-americans-republicans-say/2014/05/31/35e47a2a-e8ff-11e3-afc6-a1dd9407abcf_print.html 697445;1401626740;assbot;Bergdahl release arrangement could threaten the safety of Americans, Republicans say - The Washington Post 697446;1401626795;mircea_popescu;artifexd: asciilifeform: Exactly why I'd like to offload that to someone else. << lol i'm sure you';re the first that thought of that :D 697447;1401626896;mircea_popescu;assbot: Joshua Zipkin of AMT (Advance Mining Technologies) threaten to kill a fellow Bitcoiner. : Bitcoin << so is this going to be the talking point of the militant us left for the remainder of 2014 ? "bitcoin is bad because bitcoiners kill people" ? 697448;1401626950;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: I need to threaten someone << no, you just need to infiltrate the command centers of your would be "enemies" and then lead on their nonsense for lulz and butthurt. 697449;1401626965;chetty;worse, it promotes hate speech and offends people 697450;1401626997;mircea_popescu;o look, an asicminer lolsuit. 697451;1401627017;mircea_popescu;the people who can't afford to call to australia are mary-sue-ing 697452;1401627061;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: yep - and the reality is that a natural disaster that destroys a city will probably affect your business' ability to function anyway << this is, again, the nonsense i was rejecting. 697453;1401627086;mircea_popescu;if buenos aires sinks tomorrow mpex won't be disrupted in any sense. business doesn't mean anything physical unless your business sucks 697454;1401627098;mircea_popescu;much like business didn't mean farming in 1514, unless your business sucked. 697455;1401627118;fluffypony;I was thinking more about some of my business units where physical stock would be destroyed and the logistics chain would disappear 697456;1401627141;BingoBoingo;OMG Gawker has an essay about adversity I can relate to (after the shitty intro) http://gawker.com/when-god-grabs-you-by-the-balls-1584192836/all 697457;1401627142;assbot;When God Grabs You By the Balls 697458;1401627142;fluffypony;then having a million site and customer backups won't help us to continue functioning immediately 697459;1401627146;mircea_popescu;pankkake: my point is just that n+1 is much better than n; just a game of probabilities << yeah, the game works like this : the more backups you have the more avenues for theft. the fewer backups you have, the more avenues for accidental loss. 697460;1401627150;mircea_popescu;it's tight. 697461;1401627166;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, right. 697462;1401627215;pankkake;I don't have any clear text backup 697463;1401627225;mircea_popescu;so then do you backup your pw ? 697464;1401627257;pankkake;currently I have two solutions, which slightly benefit from obscurity 697465;1401627274;mircea_popescu;right. but in the general terms, backups sit in between the constraint described. 697466;1401627299;pankkake;yes; while petty theft is not my concern targeted attacks can 697467;1401627312;mircea_popescu;i wasn't distinguishing. 697468;1401627338;mircea_popescu;anyway, anyoine with forum accounts left : pls put phinn gage on an ever escalating aggravation schedule until he fucking comes here. 697469;1401627352;mircea_popescu;like, firs tweek, one pm a day per person. next week, two. then four. ETC!!11 697470;1401627370;fluffypony;maybe he doesn't know how IRC works? 697471;1401627429;fluffypony;this is how I imagine Mats_cd03 cruises the streets: http://i.imgur.com/0koacPX.jpg 697472;1401627429;mircea_popescu;you type the moisturizer into the box! 697473;1401627475;fluffypony;lulz 697474;1401627522;Mats_cd03;;) 697475;1401627547;mircea_popescu;"ex board member here using an anonymous alias so i will not receive backlash from other board members or friedcat 697476;1401627547;mircea_popescu;there is many dodgy scam things going on at asicminer which has personally costs me over a million dollars" 697477;1401627563;mircea_popescu;everyone can has a million dolla these days. even people affraid of forum retaliationz 697478;1401627610;chetty;Five of the Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders in U.S. Custody Exchanged for American Captive// well americans everywhere are screwed now, us has given up no negotiations policy 697479;1401627629;mircea_popescu;o hey. 697480;1401627632;mircea_popescu;who did they trade ? 697481;1401627651;chetty;prisoners from gitmo 697482;1401627656;mircea_popescu;no i get that part. 697483;1401627667;mircea_popescu;who's the presidential bff 697484;1401627689;chetty;Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl 697485;1401627702;mircea_popescu;ahahaha WHAT 697486;1401627704;mircea_popescu;nobody ?! 697487;1401627726;mircea_popescu;dude this should be a book. every chapter's title could be "and here we punch ourselves in the face for no reason whatsoever" 697488;1401627736;chetty;Sergeant Bergdahl's recovery is a reminder of America's unwavering commitment to leave no man or woman in uniform behind on the battlefield. 697489;1401627746;chetty;election coming up 697490;1401627775;mircea_popescu;weak hand administration probably figured "it's win-win" because they give up five worthless towelheads which had to be kept at a per day cost far exceeding the cost to rent a private jet. 697491;1401627784;mircea_popescu;so it's a "cost cutting measure" 697492;1401627795;Mats_cd03;dude is a pos 697493;1401627805;mircea_popescu;meanwhile in the real world... i guess the secretary of state better be careful traveling. 697494;1401627813;chetty;yeah except for the target now on our backs 697495;1401627816;mircea_popescu;yup 697496;1401627822;Mats_cd03;walked off a base then gets two soldiers killed in ensuing rescue ops 697497;1401627846;mircea_popescu;i tell you, they cut the most important policy pillar over nothing ?! it's beyond comedic. 697498;1401627871;mircea_popescu;i guess coming up next week, obama promises the us will never use its nuclear arsenal, as part of the inauguration of a primary school in a provincial town in kenya. 697499;1401627914;chetty;the headlines are very loud about it breaking the law too, for what little thats worth these days 697500;1401627916;mircea_popescu;"it'll be our gift to you, the biggest diamond we could find for some random anon swine. long live socialism! everything's equal to everything else!" 697501;1401627975;fluffypony;save the environment, buy energy efficient lightbulbs that come in packaging like this: http://i.imgur.com/7Xh1Hwa.jpg 697502;1401628005;mircea_popescu;anyway, proper headline being "taliban scores largest victory to date, surpassing mpex's previous record" 697503;1401628023;chetty;indeed, you been outdone 697504;1401628054;mircea_popescu;happens to the best of us. 697505;1401628087;mircea_popescu;i wonder if up next is china announcing that it will sanction any countries that implement us aml/kyc measures. 697506;1401628137;chetty;lmao, that would be cool 697507;1401628292;Mats_cd03;the govt has always been willing to negotiate with terrorists 697508;1401628327;Mats_cd03;words otherwise are empty and do not describe reality accurately 697509;1401628414;chetty;yeah but not on the front page, and so forth 697510;1401628594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16227 @ 0.00087816 = 14.2499 BTC [-] {3} 697511;1401629147;jurov;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/270re9/anybody_know_why_bitcoinaverage_usd_price_is_not/ << two cans rattle 697512;1401629147;assbot;Anybody know why BitcoinAverage USD price is not now including Bitstamp? : Bitcoin 697513;1401629196;jurov;dunno if bitstamp survives upcoming bubble 697514;1401629211;fluffypony;well here you go 697515;1401629219;fluffypony;a Brainfuck interpreter written in Bash 697516;1401629219;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26z1er/cmv_if_i_know_perl_or_python_i_dont_need_to_learn/chw49ml 697517;1401629220;assbot;Figs comments on CMV: if I know Perl or Python, I don't need to learn bash. 697518;1401629798;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: apparently you called bitcoinpete out as being a liar - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7070591#msg7070591 697519;1401629798;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 697520;1401629998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.028 = 0.56 BTC [-] 697521;1401630047;fluffypony;!up Pierre_Rochard 697522;1401630055;fluffypony;Pierre_Rochard: great comments in the appcoins article 697523;1401630059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.02857138 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2} 697524;1401630066;Pierre_Rochard;thank you 697525;1401630120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.03 = 1.89 BTC [+] 697526;1401630146;fluffypony;I love the way the guy has a ninja mask in his picture 697527;1401630157;fluffypony;or whatever that is 697528;1401630170;fluffypony;but he's the "Executive Director of the Mastercoin Foundation" 697529;1401630181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 19 @ 0.03094732 = 0.588 BTC [+] {2} 697530;1401630186;fluffypony;executive director by day...ninja warrior by night? 697531;1401630202;Pierre_Rochard;http://www.projet13.com/image_upload/cagoule-militaire-3-trous-noire.jpg 697532;1401630211;Pierre_Rochard;it’s worn by thieves around the world 697533;1401630216;Pierre_Rochard;very appropriate for his role 697534;1401630233;fluffypony;lol 697535;1401630243;Pierre_Rochard;more comfortable than wearing stockings I would guess 697536;1401630451;fluffypony;pankkake: oh noez, usagi negrated us 697537;1401631096;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.0008779 = 33.2724 BTC [-] {2} 697538;1401631540;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, drastic 697539;1401631554;fluffypony;omf this conversation in -otc with usagi is classic 697540;1401631564;fluffypony;he's now saying that we have no moral right to negrate him 697541;1401631573;mircea_popescu;we being whim 697542;1401631575;mircea_popescu;whom* 697543;1401631587;fluffypony;danielpbarron, Apocalyptic, pankkake, bitcoinpete, and myself 697544;1401631597;fluffypony;he's garnished us all with the negrate salt 697545;1401631603;mircea_popescu;that's a list 697546;1401631630;mircea_popescu;lol pony's first rate war ? 697547;1401631702;fluffypony;hah hah - I gave up arguing with him 697548;1401631774;mircea_popescu;that thread is quite the comedy goldmine. 697549;1401631789;mircea_popescu;someone notify porkchop 697550;1401631813;mircea_popescu;;;rated usagi 697551;1401631814;gribble;You rated user usagi on Sat Nov 24 19:40:40 2012, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: None. 697552;1401631830;mircea_popescu;dawg im old skool 697553;1401631840;fluffypony;lol 697554;1401631867;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust usagi 697555;1401631867;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask tsukino!tsukino@unaffiliated/tsukino. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user usagi: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 1 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012 697556;1401631958;danielpbarron;i get the feeling that he's trying to do some sort of poorly managed public relations campaign right now 697557;1401631960;BingoBoingo;!up Pierre_Rochard 697558;1401631972;mircea_popescu;i wonder if the current treatment of neg trust over l2 composition is to ignore the 2nd layer negs or to convey them 697559;1401631987;BingoBoingo;;;rate usagi -1 697560;1401631988;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user usagi has been recorded. 697561;1401632002;mircea_popescu;suppose you -1 someone and that someone -1s someone else. should you have 0 or -1 l2 with the someone else ? 697562;1401632034;BingoBoingo;That is an interesting question 697563;1401632065;mircea_popescu;it's actually very deep because it has fundamental graph theory implications 697564;1401632169;danielpbarron;why not a +1 with that someone else? (the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing) 697565;1401632169;mircea_popescu;!up bitstein 697566;1401632172;Pierre_Rochard;enemy of my enemy is my friend vs. scammers scamming scammers. I think the latter makes more sense in the context of trust relationships 697567;1401632188;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron, that definitely doesn't work like any group algebra i ever heard of 697568;1401632229;danielpbarron;well they definitely shouldn't get a -1; I don't trust the first guy, so why would I trust his negative ratings? 697569;1401632249;mircea_popescu;im regarding it purely as a graph theory / algebraic structures isse 697570;1401632287;mircea_popescu;this may be the first time in human history that actual problems of fundamental math can be experimentally tested ;/ 697571;1401632490;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust assbot usagi 697572;1401632491;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask tsukino!tsukino@unaffiliated/tsukino. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012 697573;1401632532;mircea_popescu;!up Smilence 697574;1401632589;bitstein;;;rate Pierre_Rochard 10 697575;1401632590;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Pierre_Rochard has changed from 10 to 10. 697576;1401632608;fluffypony;anyway - conversation starts here: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/06/01#l1401630332 697577;1401632611;assbot;BitcoinStats 697578;1401632735;mircea_popescu;you two know each other ? 697579;1401632743;fluffypony;nope 697580;1401632759;mircea_popescu;not you lol. bitstein and Pierre_Rochard 697581;1401632770;fluffypony;oh 697582;1401632770;fluffypony;lol 697583;1401632772;Pierre_Rochard;yes, we went to college together 697584;1401632774;fluffypony;confuzin 697585;1401632776;bitstein;Pierre_Rochard and I are very close friends 697586;1401632801;Pierre_Rochard;I’m the treasurer at the Nakamoto Institute, bitstein is dear leader 697587;1401632841;fluffypony;bitstein: the appcoins smackdown was your article, no? 697588;1401632878;bitstein;That was Daniel Krawisz, our resident genius. 697589;1401632926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00088118 = 25.6423 BTC [+] {3} 697590;1401632946;fluffypony;aaah ok 697591;1401632958;fluffypony;he needs a pat on the back and a cookie, he did an excellent job 697592;1401633001;bitstein;I'll be sure to let him know, thanks 697593;1401633142;mircea_popescu;!up Sebastan 697594;1401633152;mircea_popescu;i c 697595;1401633170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23383333 = 0.7015 BTC [+] {3} 697596;1401633188;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot bitstein 697597;1401633188;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask bitstein!48b66859@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.182.104.89. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bitstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitstein | Rated since: Thu May 29 11:37:42 2014 697598;1401633205;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard 697599;1401633206;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Rochard@198.255.186.129. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014 697600;1401633216;mircea_popescu;;;rate Pierre_Rochard 1 CPA 697601;1401633218;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded. 697602;1401633314;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 454.86965777 BTC. Current weight: 48,196. 697603;1401633360;BingoBoingo;;;rate usagi -10 Based on rumors and innuendo 697604;1401633362;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -1 to -10. 697605;1401633373;Sebastan;thanks mircea_popescu... do i have voice now permanently? 697606;1401633387;mircea_popescu;for half hour. 697607;1401633435;Sebastan;how can i make it permanent? 697608;1401633467;mircea_popescu;the way it works is that assbot looks at hte people it trusts, if they trust you you can ask it to voice you. 697609;1401633491;mircea_popescu;practically speaking, introduce yourself, build trust, all that. 697610;1401633510;Sebastan;ok... 697611;1401633553;mircea_popescu;read the logs to get up to speed. 697612;1401633597;BingoBoingo;;;rate pirateat40 -1 kerfluffle 697613;1401633599;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user pirateat40 has been recorded. 697614;1401633622;nubbins`;so i bought a trumpet 697615;1401633629;mircea_popescu;lamo 697616;1401633632;fluffypony;is that a name for a sex toy? 697617;1401633636;Pierre_Rochard;Thanks mircea_popescu 697618;1401633641;nubbins`;fluffypony, not yet XD 697619;1401633654;BingoBoingo;fluffypony nubbins`: well, it vibrates 697620;1401633656;mircea_popescu;"this one time, in nubbins camp..." 697621;1401633658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00199356 = 0.3987 BTC [+] {3} 697622;1401633667;fluffypony;lol 697623;1401633691;nubbins`;worst hangover of my life yesterday, struggling not to vomit as i get out of bed, glance at FB on my way to make coffee and see that a friend is selling a trumpet 697624;1401633693;nubbins`;"hmmm..." 697625;1401633696;mircea_popescu;Pierre_Rochard, you're the guy i was trying to get to audit the ohio rental asset thing right ? 697626;1401633709;Pierre_Rochard;yes 697627;1401633710;fluffypony;nubbins`: excellent time to make a decision 697628;1401633718;*;nubbins` nods 697629;1401633726;Pierre_Rochard;it’s been a while - the bezzle is time consuming 697630;1401633737;nubbins`;also excellent ammunition for when the tourette hooker neighbour starts acting up 697631;1401633778;mircea_popescu;cool. 697632;1401633814;mircea_popescu;now he gets to try it out on his own :D 697633;1401633861;fluffypony;nubbins`: when are you designing b-a t-shirts? you know we'll all buy and you can make a smart profit off it 697634;1401633868;BingoBoingo;!up Pierre_Rochard 697635;1401633902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02999998 = 0.24 BTC [-] {2} 697636;1401633959;nubbins`;fluffypony, good question :D 697637;1401633962;nubbins`;what's the phrase again? 697638;1401633971;nubbins`;"#b-a, where the bezzle comes to die"? 697639;1401634009;fluffypony;lol 697640;1401634013;fluffypony;no it's "Check your Bitcoin privilege" 697641;1401634014;mircea_popescu;i can sorta visualize the bezzle as this very raunchy bubble butted 20something mulatto 697642;1401634035;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: always trying to borrow a couple of bucks 697643;1401634039;mircea_popescu;spending her days playing the trophy whife in suburbia and coming a few nights a week for a total anal gangfest in da hood. 697644;1401634040;nubbins`;bad breath 697645;1401634043;nubbins`;that's the bezzle alright 697646;1401634227;Pierre_Rochard;spot on 697647;1401634237;nubbins`;fluffypony: i'll do up a mock-up this week and hopefully get an order page set up 697648;1401634248;fluffypony;nubbins`: ok awesomesauce 697649;1401634254;nubbins`;fair warning, probably won't print any unless we get 12+ people ordering em 697650;1401634264;fluffypony;I'll order 4 697651;1401634268;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00088086 = 18.0576 BTC [-] {3} 697652;1401634269;thestringpuller;I'll take 100 697653;1401634273;thestringpuller;what am I ordering? 697654;1401634283;fluffypony;and if you do a woman's one I'll order 2 for the wife as well 697655;1401634391;thestringpuller;when will we get "Not a member Bitcoin Foundation" t-shirts 697656;1401634407;thestringpuller;I want to buy 50 of those and hand them out at Bitcoin meetups 697657;1401634422;nubbins`;hah 697658;1401634465;fluffypony;lol 697659;1401634652;danielpbarron;I'd buy one 697660;1401635122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2444 BTC [+] 697661;1401635224;fluffypony;thestringpuller: I see you're fighting a losing battle with Mr. It's-Not-My-Fault-I-Didn't-Do-Anything-Wrong 697662;1401635244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00201246 = 0.3019 BTC [+] {7} 697663;1401635246;mircea_popescu;dr foreskin ? 697664;1401635262;mircea_popescu;damn, you just referenced every derp on the forum. 697665;1401635269;mircea_popescu;burnside ? 697666;1401635278;mircea_popescu;nefario ? ukyo ? who ? which ? 697667;1401635280;BingoBoingo;Deprived? 697668;1401635292;BingoBoingo;Thermos? 697669;1401635295;fluffypony;still Usagi 697670;1401635299;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=489187.0 697671;1401635300;assbot;NYAN.A Holders...what happened? 697672;1401635307;chetty;how do you tell one derp from another? 697673;1401635347;fluffypony;"Even Mircea's NYAN copycat fund lost money" 697674;1401635369;fluffypony;first he praises you - "Even Mircea knows Pete is lying" 697675;1401635372;fluffypony;then he insults you 697676;1401635381;mircea_popescu;copy what ?! 697677;1401635446;mircea_popescu;this must be some sort of obscure internet joke with cats and stuff is it ? 697678;1401635490;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I think that's a reference to the CDO whose only asset to not collapse in value was MPOE bonds 697679;1401635543;mircea_popescu;but that was a few years back. 697680;1401635566;mircea_popescu;i thought it has something to do with that rainbow cat thing 697681;1401635610;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46250 @ 0.00088393 = 40.8818 BTC [+] {3} 697682;1401635714;BingoBoingo;The rainbow cat thing was what usagi named his shit after 697683;1401635752;mircea_popescu;hence copycat 697684;1401635849;artifexd;nubbins`: I'll commit to two #b-a shirts. An XL and a S. 697685;1401635874;mircea_popescu;one for him, 697686;1401635878;mircea_popescu;one for his hard cock. 697687;1401635895;artifexd;lol 697688;1401636343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00088466 = 19.6395 BTC [+] 697689;1401636952;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00088466 = 18.5336 BTC [+] 697690;1401637013;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00088466 = 12.1198 BTC [+] 697691;1401637015;chetty;I would ask for shirts but someone would need to deliver, customs here is impossible 697692;1401637143;nubbins`;where's here? 697693;1401637146;kakobrekla;that bad?? 697694;1401637168;kakobrekla;weird mp came through in the first place. 697695;1401637299;mircea_popescu;i will have you know i cam through with a full bottle of tuica 697696;1401637318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0008797 = 1.7594 BTC [-] 697697;1401637326;chetty;travel in is not a problem, its the mail 697698;1401638117;benkay;mircea_popescu: what kinds of things have you noticed b-a missing? 697699;1401638211;mircea_popescu;people. 697700;1401638321;chetty;hmm ok is b-a bitcoin-assets or Buenos Aries 697701;1401638391;kakobrekla;its seems its one and the same now. 697702;1401638415;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/ 697703;1401638416;assbot;May Combined trading statement | Bingo Blog 697704;1401638416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19807860 BTC to 9`140 shares, 24049 satoshi per share 697705;1401638422;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/ 697706;1401638435;BingoBoingo;mike_c: You can numbers now. 697707;1401638590;nubbins`;got some more talking heads on vinyl the other day 697708;1401638608;nubbins`;i tell ya, there's something deeply satisfying about listening to music this way 697709;1401638692;jurov;lol one can't just send t-shirts to argentina? 697710;1401638694;kakobrekla;in the frequent walks to the platter. 697711;1401638760;benkay;^^ sounds archaic 697712;1401638782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00088085 = 12.0676 BTC [+] 697713;1401638815;nubbins`;kakobrekla it's the worst on 45rpm 12"s 697714;1401638822;kakobrekla;mhm 697715;1401638822;nubbins`;like this meat puppets one i have 697716;1401638825;nubbins`;so quick! 697717;1401638835;nubbins`;but, dat sound quality 697718;1401638889;chetty;argentina has a high import tax on everything, I am looking into other ways to get things 697719;1401638923;kakobrekla;meh, most of the gain from vinyl comes from proper mastering imho 697720;1401638986;nubbins`;nod 697721;1401638996;nubbins`;phun phact, quality degrades as you get closer to the middle 697722;1401639107;kakobrekla;my analogue gear is boxed up waiting for better days. im running low on space. 697723;1401639113;benkay;less travel per wavelength -> lower fidelity? 697724;1401639119;nubbins`;benkay, yep 697725;1401639128;benkay;nud 697726;1401639129;benkay;nod 697727;1401639150;nubbins`;not unusual to "de-ess" tracks farther into the platter, to remove slurred S and Z sounds 697728;1401639214;nubbins`;you can hear this done incorrectly on the Pixies album Surfer Rosa 697729;1401639243;nubbins`;"hiSH teeth were white aSH SHnow" etc 697730;1401639246;mircea_popescu;nud! 697731;1401639259;nubbins`;don't nud your head at me! 697732;1401639302;kakobrekla;my nudle in 9 inch long 697733;1401639320;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Booy_X4CcAABgnt.jpg 697734;1401639331;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6789 @ 0.00088131 = 5.9832 BTC [+] {2} 697735;1401639333;asciilifeform;re: u.s. exchanging five taliban for one grunt: there is precedent. 697736;1401639335;asciilifeform;http://garypowers.org/1962-spy-exchange-of-powers-for-abel 697737;1401639337;assbot;The 1962 Spy Exchange of Powers for Abel | Francis Gary Powers, Jr. 697738;1401639381;asciilifeform;^ where they traded a captured great master for a nobody 697739;1401639698;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/#c2949 697740;1401639698;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 112.59 B (85%) on Yes, 19.53 B (15%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 7`146 (100`000 to 1) 697741;1401639925;jurov;;;bc,stats 697742;1401639928;gribble;Current Blocks: 303673 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 742 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 5 hours, 10 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11248185431.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.57925 697743;1401640124;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00088067 = 11.1845 BTC [-] {2} 697744;1401640550;asciilifeform;in other news, 697745;1401640551;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/05/truecrypt-forensics.htm 697746;1401640978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0255501 = 0.1022 BTC [-] 697747;1401640981;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: 'la florida' etc << looks exactly like '90s russia. 697748;1401641035;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: where, as a boy, right before leaving, i traded a shoebox full of toilet paper money for 1 usd. 697749;1401641075;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as for what the germans did there - if i recall, they built self-contained villages and had little to no contact with the locals. 697750;1401641088;asciilifeform;(there being - in argentina) 697751;1401641160;chetty;I think right now a lot of locals are just trying to survive until the next election 697752;1401641165;asciilifeform;i've no idea whether it is possible to build an unmolested autarkik village in modern ar. 697753;1401641362;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ 697754;1401641533;benkay;chetty: how will an election change things? 697755;1401641788;chetty;benkay, it wont, but that seems to be the attitude in many places. The ills are blamed on who/what has current power so folks think changing that helps 697756;1401641903;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, ok, precedent, but of spies. 697757;1401641939;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, nice how thaat french diff bet worked out huh 697758;1401641968;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, the problem is argentina has been 90s russia for ~50 years now. 697759;1401641979;mircea_popescu;and it has been 1890s russia for 50 years last century too 697760;1401642067;mircea_popescu; i've no idea whether it is possible to build an unmolested autarkik village in modern ar. <<< you can do pretty much exactly whatever the fuck you please. yesterday';s newspaper carried a report of a gang of 5 men that attacked a minor detention center to get a kid out 697761;1401642070;mircea_popescu;didn't find him there 697762;1401642079;mircea_popescu;4 others took advantage and escaped 697763;1401642081;mircea_popescu;(thieves, all) 697764;1401642230;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah, likelyhood of the outcome is pretty even, but weight is finally keeping late bettors in check. 697765;1401642263;mircea_popescu;its funny that the MARKET adjusted to match the tool. 697766;1401642744;jurov;;;ticker 697767;1401642745;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 668.62, Best ask: 669.88, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 669.88, 24 hour volume: 13942.96127422, 24 hour low: 620.1, 24 hour high: 670.05, 24 hour vwap: 642.992163095 697768;1401642757;mircea_popescu;from gringos in argentina, chapter 1 : "didja call that bitches' biscuit woman ?" refering to one busquet beatriz 697769;1401642826;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: how's your Spanish coming along? 697770;1401642879;mircea_popescu;my spanish was very good anyway 697771;1401642936;fluffypony;ah ok 697772;1401642955;mircea_popescu;Freitas and co also monitored the Klout score of each of their social bots to see how they fared. (Klout is an online service that measures the influence of Twitter accounts, giving them a score between 0 and 100). “We find that the socialbots achieved Klout scores of the same order of (or, at times, even higher than) several well-known academicians and social network researchers,” they say. 697773;1401642959;mircea_popescu;perhaps unsurprisingly. 697774;1401642995;mircea_popescu;More surprisingly, the socialbots that generated synthetic tweets (rather than just reposting) performed better too. That suggests that Twitter users are unable to distinguish between posts generated by humans and by bots. This is possibly because a large fraction of tweets in Twitter are written in an informal, grammatically incoherent style, so that even simple statistical models can produce tweets with quality s 697775;1401642996;mircea_popescu;imilar to those posted by humans in Twitter, suggest Freitas and co. 697776;1401642997;mircea_popescu;o boy. 697777;1401643206;nubbins`;hm, this bob dylan album has the labels on the wrong sides 697778;1401643216;nubbins`;and one of the song titles is wrong 697779;1401643220;*;nubbins` raises eyebrow 697780;1401643540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.08205249 = 0.5744 BTC [-] {3} 697781;1401643601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0829699 = 0.4978 BTC [+] {2} 697782;1401643633;benkay;SCAM 697783;1401643662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.08413445 = 0.9255 BTC [+] {3} 697784;1401643667;nubbins`;i'm wondering if this is a common thing or if i have a shiny gem 697785;1401643673;nubbins`;it looks to be a first pressing 697786;1401643744;pankkake;this is unfortunately too common 697787;1401643932;benkay;feature not a bug 697788;1401643940;benkay;maybe its got numismatic value 697789;1401643953;pankkake;wrong track order, typos, etc. 697790;1401643963;pankkake;amplified by people who tag their releases wronger 697791;1401644078;thestringpuller;;;ud numismatic 697792;1401644078;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numismatic | Nov 5, 2007 ... the study or collection of coins, medals, paper money, etc. 697793;1401644090;thestringpuller;never knew that word 697794;1401644115;pankkake;http://www.istorage-uk.com/datashur.php the battery is a nice touch, I was wondering how to boot from these devices [I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS SECURE GUYZ] 697795;1401644115;assbot;datAshur - The iStorage datAshur is the world' s most secure, easy to use and affordable USB flash drive 697796;1401644146;pankkake;thestringpuller: weird! I've known it since childhood 697797;1401644193;nubbins`;okay, it's apparently the first canadian pressing 697798;1401644201;nubbins`;no mention of the labels being reversed though, from what i can find 697799;1401644243;pankkake;I remember selling some of my old Francs over face value 697800;1401644249;pankkake;where did you find the info? discogs? 697801;1401644273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02710001 = 0.1084 BTC [-] {4} 697802;1401644333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08254067 = 0.2476 BTC [-] {2} 697803;1401644334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02710001 = 0.1084 BTC [-] {4} 697804;1401644394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0842499 = 0.1685 BTC [+] {2} 697805;1401644409;nubbins`;http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/International001.htm 697806;1401644409;assbot;Bob Dylan 1962 697807;1401644431;nubbins`;"Columbia CS 8579 (Canada), late 1962" 697808;1401644432;pankkake;;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral 697809;1401644434;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 478.0, Best ask: 480.04, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 480.5, 24 hour volume: 79.09568087, 24 hour low: 444.0, 24 hour high: 480.5, 24 hour vwap: 464.24043179 697810;1401644455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02707778 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {4} 697811;1401644518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08474993 = 0.2542 BTC [+] {3} 697812;1401644581;pankkake;http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-Bob-Dylan/release/3395485 The title of A1 is misinterpreted on the label and reads ''She's No Good''. 697813;1401644674;nubbins`;http://giant.gfycat.com/OblongSlowCur.gif 697814;1401644684;nubbins`;yeah, i have that title misprint 697815;1401644695;nubbins`;but my SIDE 1 label is on side 2, and vice versa 697816;1401644821;benkay;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral 697817;1401644823;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 648.2967, Best ask: 651.7052, Bid-ask spread: 3.40850, Last trade: 651.7052, 24 hour volume: 79.79518087, 24 hour low: 605.3496, 24 hour high: 655.1137, 24 hour vwap: 633.113324864 697818;1401644882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00088061 = 27.475 BTC [-] {2} 697819;1401644938;asciilifeform;pankkake: re: dataAshur: 697820;1401644947;asciilifeform;;;google ashur 697821;1401644947;gribble;Ashur (god) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ashur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ashur - Spartacus Wiki - Wikia: 697822;1401644951;asciilifeform;there we go. 697823;1401645040;asciilifeform;pankkake: ever 'pick' a keypad lock? 697824;1401645064;asciilifeform;(hint: principle is the same regardless of whether keypad is electric or mechanical.) 697825;1401645126;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 443 @ 0.00211457 = 0.9368 BTC [-] 697826;1401645227;asciilifeform;from manual: 'The iStorage datAshur, unlike other similar drives, is preloaded with an unlimited number of randomly 697827;1401645227;asciilifeform;generated encryption keys.' << translation: keys produced from prng. 697828;1401645288;pankkake;lol preloaded keys?! 697829;1401645328;asciilifeform;'Each time hacking is detected (i.e. the wrong PIN is entered a total of 10 697830;1401645328;asciilifeform;consecutive times), the current encryption key is deleted...' << translation: passcode is not the prng seed. 697831;1401645364;pankkake;anyway, not my use case. could be a usb key in a safe, but this is more portable 697832;1401645368;asciilifeform;'Your iStorage datAshur is supplied with a built-in rechargeable battery.' << translation: key is kept in sram. 697833;1401645450;asciilifeform;answer to keypad riddle, since nobody bothered attempting it: the dirtiest and most worn keys are the numerals in the code. 697834;1401645467;asciilifeform;if machine was used recently - the ones with fingerprints. 697835;1401645491;pankkake;https://www.geek.com/chips/usb-flash-drive-locks-makes-your-data-a-little-more-secure-868751/ lol 697836;1401645553;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 59 @ 0.02999999 = 1.77 BTC [+] {5} 697837;1401645585;pankkake;I remember a usb key that was lockable. well it was a kickstarter project 697838;1401645592;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1edvhu/crypteks_usb_kickstarter_goes_silent_the_dark/ 697839;1401645593;assbot;Crypteks USB Kickstarter Goes Silent. The dark side of crowd-funding. : gadgets 697840;1401645618;asciilifeform;also a mechanical lock, if i recall. 697841;1401645639;pankkake;yes, I mean physical lock. it's what I'm interested in 697842;1401645661;asciilifeform;pankkake: buy a pistol lockbox and be done with it. 697843;1401645734;Blazedout419;thoughts on AM shares?? Can not decide if they are worth .2ish or not =\ 697844;1401645745;pankkake;looks quite big. I also want it on my keychain :) 697845;1401645772;fluffypony;Blazedout419: maybe as a joke thing, like "hah hah I bought some AM shares back in the day' 697846;1401645780;Blazedout419;kinda my thoughts 697847;1401645787;Blazedout419;oh well 697848;1401645794;asciilifeform;pankkake: what is the expected enemy? 697849;1401645858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.123 = 0.246 BTC [+] 697850;1401645899;pankkake;none, I just want some storage that would almost never leave my sight, and the only non-software encrypted part would be a /boot partition 697851;1401645925;nubbins`;Blazedout419 for the street cred without the financial risk, turn a USB block erupter heat sink into a keychain 697852;1401645940;pankkake;and I don't think anyone could really manage to steal and replace the unencrypted data 697853;1401645949;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Amputate leg, put pistol safe in prosthetic 697854;1401645970;pankkake;butt plug is simpler 697855;1401646002;pankkake;nubbins`: maybe that's what I will do… they're more of a bother than anything else to run now 697856;1401646084;pankkake;so I could do everything I want with a simple USB key, but wouldn't mind another layer of security, however crappy itis 697857;1401646229;BingoBoingo;pankkake: You could try dumb usb key plus steganography 697858;1401646252;pankkake;how do I steganography in the real world? 697859;1401646269;pankkake;http://static.mrmatt57.org/img/iamaKey8GB/Lacie-USB-Key-Macro1.jpg might be a better security, if thought to be an ordinary key :p 697860;1401646308;BingoBoingo;get usb key with giant plastic case, use empty space to hide chip from another usb drive, swap chips to access secrets hidden as [fill-in-the-blank] 697861;1401646651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00088051 = 11.5347 BTC [-] 697862;1401647017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03 = 1.5 BTC [+] 697863;1401647139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08125703 = 0.4063 BTC [-] {3} 697864;1401647627;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00087967 = 17.0656 BTC [-] {2} 697865;1401647892;mircea_popescu; thoughts on AM shares?? Can not decide if they are worth .2ish or not << likely not. 697866;1401647966;mircea_popescu;yay finally trilema above twitter for search on my name. 697867;1401647967;mircea_popescu;woot. 697868;1401648043;BingoBoingo;Who knew Twitter was the one holding you back all along? 697869;1401648070;mircea_popescu;lol like the leg ? 697870;1401648092;mircea_popescu;no but google has this asinine "will score twitter/wikipedia above anything else just for being twitter/wikipedia" 697871;1401648095;mircea_popescu;not facebook tho. 697872;1401648115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00088036 = 3.9616 BTC [+] {2} 697873;1401648144;BingoBoingo;Of course like the leg http://oglaf.com/1dad/ 697874;1401648144;assbot;Number 1 Dad 697875;1401648237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.24653978 = 1.4792 BTC [+] {3} 697876;1401648266;mircea_popescu;that sounds just like me. 697877;1401648351;mircea_popescu;http://oglaf.com/appealtoheaven/ << lol 697878;1401648352;assbot;Appeal to heaven 697879;1401648481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00087881 = 14.1488 BTC [-] {4} 697880;1401648786;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00088074 = 11.8125 BTC [+] {2} 697881;1401649004;Naphex;correction time already?;D 697882;1401649040;fluffypony;apparently 697883;1401649202;benkay;;;ticker 697884;1401649205;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 624.71, Best ask: 624.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 624.99, 24 hour volume: 18660.99215086, 24 hour low: 618.53, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 646.455113359 697885;1401649242;Naphex;prettu 4k dump 697886;1401649245;Naphex;pretty* 697887;1401649478;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust assbot assbot 697888;1401649479;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014 697889;1401649554;Blazedout419;;;ticker --market all 697890;1401649561;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 641.06, vol: 20278.69329105 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 638.336, vol: 14535.67162 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 640.0, vol: 18787.00403301 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 638.97, vol: 45.4117812 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 654.011702, vol: 9399.03690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 648.48167, vol: 27.86134313 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 654.672, vol: 121.10704943 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 697891;1401649562;Blazedout419;;;more 697892;1401649564;gribble;642.072496624 697893;1401649600;chetty;http://manipulism.com/ 697894;1401649603;assbot;Manipulism and the Weapon of Guilt 697895;1401649632;chetty;Whether called crab mentality in the Philippines (If I cant have it neither can you) or the Jante Law in Scandinavia (Dont think that you are more than others), the tall poppy syndrome in collectivistic-influenced commonwealth countries (Cutting down the tall poppy), or schadenfreude in Germany, these syndromes all describe the same condition of pathological narcissism that thrives commonly in collectivism on undermining 697896;1401649633;chetty;and is driven by severe inferiority complex. 697897;1401649640;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4787 @ 0.00088047 = 4.2148 BTC [-] 697898;1401649805;thestringpuller;chetty lives 697899;1401649945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0008809 = 7.9281 BTC [+] 697900;1401649975;BingoBoingo;from our favorite skinnkavaj https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7013153#msg7013153 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7023854#msg7023854 697901;1401649976;assbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 697902;1401649976;assbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 697903;1401650023;pankkake;!up skinnkavaj 697904;1401650067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0262999 = 0.1578 BTC [+] 697905;1401650068;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00088164 = 18.4263 BTC [+] {2} 697906;1401650089;thestringpuller;damn chetty that was a good link 697907;1401650133;pankkake;horrible cover though 697908;1401650173;chetty;yeah but those first three chapters are a great read 697909;1401650213;chetty;*** disclaimer I am only on chapter 2 697910;1401650255;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Thank you for continuing against Usagi. His declaration of "Let me tell you about bingoboingo. He is a successful fund manager because he has never had to weather the storm of an exchange shutdown. Wake up." made me lol. 697911;1401650426;BingoBoingo;%book 697912;1401650430;atcbot;25k@256 15k@250 0k@250 | 45k@158 10k@155 53k@152 697913;1401650533;BingoBoingo;Seriously, the gall of Usagi to call be sucessful or a fund manager 697914;1401650558;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: well today I realized if I had invested all those coin in MPCD.A instead NYAN.A it would be a non-issue. 697915;1401650570;thestringpuller;Then I got mad because humans are this stupid... 697916;1401650580;pankkake;unfortunately you can only buy Manipulism on Amazon's prison system 697917;1401650585;thestringpuller;then I felt a bit sad that humans can be so stupid they don't know they're stupid. 697918;1401650623;chetty;the author is giving it away thru FB, I dont FB tho :( 697919;1401650630;thestringpuller;Ultimately I think usagi is trying to cling onto the forum. If he's labeled a scammer there how will he raise money? 697920;1401650676;fluffypony;yeah 697921;1401650677;chetty;I dun know whats worse, deliberate scam or just stupid 697922;1401650694;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: I'm more outraged that he feels entitled to opine on funds, success, or management 697923;1401650736;pankkake;I'm just outraged by refusal to learn 697924;1401650799;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8182 @ 0.00088238 = 7.2196 BTC [+] {2} 697925;1401650816;BingoBoingo;It's like Dairy Queen trying to talk about actual ice cream http://www.bnd.com/2014/05/31/3234384/2-brothers-found-passed-out-in.html 697926;1401650817;assbot;CASEYVILLE: Brothers passed out in Dairy Queen parking lot face heroin charges | Top Stories | News Democrat 697927;1401650888;chetty;jajajajaja dairy queen =ice cream 697928;1401650921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16563 @ 0.00088088 = 14.59 BTC [-] {2} 697929;1401650925;fluffypony;thestringpuller: my favourite is that he feels he is owed an apology 697930;1401650941;Blazedout419;dairy queen is iced milk..not icecream 697931;1401650993;BingoBoingo;Blazedout419: Milk might be too generous a description of the input 697932;1401650999;Blazedout419;fair 697933;1401651057;fluffypony;caucasian water? 697934;1401651193;BingoBoingo;I think slurry of miscelaneous carbohydrates, proteins, and lipids in aqueous suspension is as specific a description as possible for the slurry 697935;1401651215;fluffypony;lol 697936;1401651226;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24435 @ 0.00087755 = 21.4429 BTC [-] 697937;1401651291;chetty;ya think there is any actual food in it? 697938;1401651306;thestringpuller;fluffypony: Hah. Emotions have no place in business. 697939;1401651307;Blazedout419;thank god i never bought icedrill 697940;1401651314;Blazedout419;deadterra almost had me sold... 697941;1401651329;Blazedout419;those guys still not paid divs 697942;1401651334;thestringpuller;;;gettrust deadterra 697943;1401651335;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user deadterra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=deadterra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=deadterra | Rated since: Thu Apr 5 15:12:28 2012 697944;1401651372;BingoBoingo;chetty: Maybe if you are on an elemental diet for digestive issues. I imagine mixed with crushed flintstones vitamins it might be useful as a crude form of TPN. 697945;1401651470;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1093 @ 0.00213397 = 2.3324 BTC [+] {2} 697946;1401651590;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: Now I understand why you're such a good writer for teaching purposes. You are a librarian! 697947;1401651593;thestringpuller;lol 697948;1401651614;thestringpuller;I've been referencing your GPG guide for new employees 697949;1401651618;thestringpuller;and they say "Wow this isn't so bad" 697950;1401651628;Apocalyptic;nice thestringpuller 697951;1401651629;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Thanks, I am indeed trained as one. 697952;1401651629;thestringpuller;particularly the ones who are computer illiterate 697953;1401651635;Apocalyptic;gotta educate the people on how to use GPG 697954;1401651836;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3701 @ 0.00087806 = 3.2497 BTC [+] 697955;1401651888;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: i'm here! catch me up 697956;1401651940;bitcoinpete;looks like you guys were having quite the tete-a-tete with usagi 697957;1401651950;fluffypony;oof 697958;1401651955;fluffypony;did you get an email too? 697959;1401652067;bitcoinpete;maybe... lol 697960;1401652073;bitcoinpete;not even gpg'd 697961;1401652083;fluffypony;plain text ftw :) 697962;1401652106;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: This Usagi conversation has me thinking I might need to blog sometime soon on loses in Bitcoin. 697963;1401652141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00088207 = 22.8897 BTC [+] {3} 697964;1401652149;thestringpuller;bitcoinpete: hey you sparked it with your article 697965;1401652151;BingoBoingo;!t m f.mpif 697966;1401652151;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (121153 shares, 26.32 BTC) 697967;1401652171;thestringpuller;Pulled the RSS and said "Wow he depred again? Is that even possible?" 697968;1401652172;bitcoinpete;thestringpuller: looks that way! 697969;1401652192;bitcoinpete;though perhaps i misrepresented the kakobrekla bit 697970;1401652205;BingoBoingo;I'm not at all surprised this http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/ didn't spark f.mpif trading activity in either direction. 697971;1401652206;assbot;May Combined trading statement | Bingo Blog 697972;1401652224;fluffypony;oh bitcoinpete on that topic 697973;1401652240;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7070591#msg7070591 697974;1401652240;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 697975;1401652245;fluffypony;"Even Mircea knows what pete wrote was a lie. " 697976;1401652246;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: Yeah, the kakobrekla situation reads like a negotated settlement. 697977;1401652275;thestringpuller;fluffypony: where did you read that? 697978;1401652286;fluffypony;everything you wrote was a lie, and everyone knows it, bitcoinpete! look! he has proof! 697979;1401652291;fluffypony;thestringpuller: click link above 697980;1401652299;chetty;jajajajaja 697981;1401652327;chetty;foget teaching gpg, got to learn to read first 697982;1401652428;thestringpuller;oh yea I remember that. I think it's in the WoT too that's why kako has him at 1 and not neg rated 697983;1401652517;Apocalyptic;ATC retarget in 22 blocks, should get interesting 697984;1401652529;BingoBoingo;%diff 697985;1401652531;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152519.08 in 22 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.51 697986;1401652566;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: And remember that a small number of positive rating isn't necessarily an endorsement. 697987;1401652584;pankkake;I think I got only 1 block at that diff 697988;1401652721;thestringpuller;chetty: i need to learn a lot of things :P 697989;1401652751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 29 @ 0.03 = 0.87 BTC [-] 697990;1401652772;BingoBoingo;I still can't belive Usagi called me a fund manager. I manage four piles of money. Everything that goes into making it a fund is through Mircea. This distinction is evidence of the root of Usagi's failure. 697991;1401652799;thestringpuller;that's probably my fault 697992;1401652805;thestringpuller;"succesfful fund manager" 697993;1401652812;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03 = 0.3 BTC [-] 697994;1401652816;thestringpuller;ugh I need to learn to type too chetty 697995;1401652842;thestringpuller;I should have said something like "one of the funds managers" 697996;1401652847;thestringpuller;or "profit center manager" 697997;1401652871;pankkake;I thought BB managed a fund earlier than MPIF, I was confused 697998;1401652878;BingoBoingo;Well, it stings more when it comes from his fingers. 697999;1401652882;thestringpuller;sometimes I guess it pays to be a bit more pedantic 698000;1401652889;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Only privately trading for Mircea 698001;1401652929;pankkake;my own tries at trading btc/eur haven't been very successful. at least I know what I'm not good for 698002;1401652977;nubbins`;many people never gain such knowledge 698003;1401652984;chetty;it is in the nature of people to project the bad stuff they are up to onto others. 698004;1401652986;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjDDXc4PEIk 698005;1401652987;assbot;Talking Heads: Live at Wembley Arena 1982 (Full Video) - YouTube 698006;1401653034;BingoBoingo;I'm actually kind of surprised the BTC/RON operation avoided a loss, but the $525 to $500 yo-yo stayed with us long enough for Naphex's exchange to catch up. 698007;1401653056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.02559557 = 0.2304 BTC [-] {9} 698008;1401653079;decimation;re: truecrypt audit: https://opencryptoaudit.org/reports/iSec_Final_Open_Crypto_Audit_Project_TrueCrypt_Security_Assessment.pdf 698009;1401653090;decimation;Note what they chose to *not* audit on page 2: 698010;1401653142;BingoBoingo;Also there's the part where any high price could become BTC's new permanently elevated plateu 698011;1401653174;decimation;sorry section 2 (pg 10): 698012;1401653175;decimation;The assessment explicitly excluded the following areas: 698013;1401653176;decimation;Volume parsing as it relates to a file container 698014;1401653178;decimation;Rescue Disks code paths activated when the disk does contain the private key 698015;1401653179;decimation;Cryptographic Analysis, including 698016;1401653181;decimation;RNG analysis 698017;1401653182;decimation;Algorithm implementation 698018;1401653184;decimation;Security tokens 698019;1401653185;decimation;Keyfile derivation 698020;1401653187;decimation;Hidden Containers 698021;1401653188;decimation;Linux and Mac Components 698022;1401653190;decimation;All other components not explicitly included 698023;1401653197;decimation;They audited: the bootloader and the Windows driver 698024;1401653207;chetty;http://pastebin.com/1q7McVgv 698025;1401653207;assbot;I once read a joke describing the inferiority complex facilitating social equili - Pastebin.com 698026;1401653219;pankkake;that's what got me - I have more EUR than initally but would have done better if stayed in BTC. not that I really care as I wanted to stay in EUR for the time being 698027;1401653227;pankkake;but that's less fun for a BTC fund 698028;1401653310;decimation;chetty lol. The US is already there 698029;1401653395;chetty;its all monopoly money anyway, have funs 698030;1401653587;BingoBoingo;Well, in the future the BTC/RON operation will likely have months with bigger swings. There may also be months where it just sits, like ATC/BTC did for the most part. 698031;1401653791;nubbins`;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=635311.new#new 698032;1401653791;assbot;Buying Casascius coins [verifiable custody chains ONLY] 698033;1401653802;nubbins`;worth a shot 698034;1401653885;thestringpuller;has there ever been any defective casascius coins 698035;1401653901;nubbins`;how would you define "defective"? 698036;1401653917;nubbins`;there are plenty of 1 BTC silvers with really poor, uneven lasering on the edges of the holos 698037;1401653921;decimation;chetty: re: manipulism >> It's a straight line from "let's have every man and woman vote for government" to manipulation of mass opinion 698038;1401653938;thestringpuller;nubbins`: the private key is unredeemable so to speak 698039;1401653959;nubbins`;ah, who knows? most of them never get opened 698040;1401653964;decimation;vox populi, vox dei. So as long as you get the people to say/think/do what you want, it's legitimate 698041;1401653970;nubbins`;i've never heard of someone peeling a holo and having an unreadable key inside 698042;1401653971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02507571 = 0.1755 BTC [-] {7} 698043;1401654008;Naphex;BingoBoingo: so after 1 month of usage any suggestions/complaints regarding the frontend? 698044;1401654090;BingoBoingo;Naphex: Not from me atm. mircea_popescu has some issues with it when he needs to log in. 698045;1401654107;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: mircea_popescu kakobrekla since i'm still not 100% clear on the pirate insurance thing, i've updated the usagi article to include the milk story, since that seems to be more solid footing 698046;1401654143;bitcoinpete;he's no longer "known criminal usagi," but "milkman usagi" http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/31/usagi-back-back-back-it-up-ayee/ 698047;1401654145;assbot;Usagi: Back, Back, Back It Up. Ayee! | When Bitcoin Met Pete 698048;1401654190;bitcoinpete;and with that, i bit ye a hasty adieu. it might be tuesday before i get back... 698049;1401654338;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0235 = 0.1175 BTC [-] 698050;1401654398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07941664 = 0.953 BTC [+] {2} 698051;1401654529;decimation;Obama: Those who argue otherwise -- who suggest that America is in decline or has seen its global leadership slip away -- are either misreading history or engaged in partisan politics. 698052;1401654564;BingoBoingo;http://meta.ath0.com/2014/05/30/truecrypt-warrant-canary-confirmed/ 698053;1401654689;Naphex;BingoBoingo: how is that confirmed o.O; 698054;1401654693;benkay;does anyone have a full copy of manipulism? 698055;1401654728;BingoBoingo;Naphex: It isn't really, but supports the idea that the worst must be assumed 698056;1401654735;jurov;i bought it to my kindle, did not downloaded yet 698057;1401654752;Naphex;its probably true, 698058;1401654754;benkay;jurov: aiding and abetting! 698059;1401654759;jurov;it was only $3.50 698060;1401654760;benkay;;) 698061;1401654762;thestringpuller;benkay: just buy the book 698062;1401654771;thestringpuller;YOU TELLIN ME TO PAY FOR THINGS ALL DA TIME 698063;1401654775;decimation;based on my point about the "audit" though - and asciilifeform's link, one must wonder why the USG would bother when it's probably weak 698064;1401654800;benkay;busted 698065;1401654826;jurov;does anyone know what is last official NAV of F.MPIF? 698066;1401654842;jurov;i'm working on report and want to price them 698067;1401654908;jurov;april report says 0.00021315 but it was updated after everything sold out 698068;1401654914;jurov;or not? 698069;1401654961;BingoBoingo;That's a very good question 698070;1401655068;decimation;to be fair, the exploits on ascii's link appear to be attacks on a running system, not a cold system 698071;1401655102;thestringpuller;!ticker m F.MPIF 698072;1401655103;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (121153 shares, 26.32 BTC) 698073;1401655120;thestringpuller;trading above last published NAV heh 698074;1401655209;thestringpuller;!up twentyseventy 698075;1401655248;kakobrekla;ba related www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF5HHkHvX0 698076;1401655330;thestringpuller;!up Smilence 698077;1401655484;decimation;kako: which part? that the crazy argentinians would build a village with insufficient flood protection, or the idea of people riding old bicycles through the ruins of western civilization? 698078;1401655584;jurov;;;calc 21726/21500 698079;1401655584;gribble;1.01051162791 698080;1401655709;BingoBoingo;decimation: Well, I guess if you wanted to quit, tripping your NSA canary would be a hell of a way to go out 698081;1401655744;jurov;from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=1-05-2014 i gather nav did not change, just MP put 1.05% haircut in the price 698082;1401655744;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 698083;1401655785;jurov;;;calc 21726/21315 698084;1401655785;gribble;1.01928219564 698085;1401655806;nubbins`;practicing embouchure makes lips feel funny 698086;1401655876;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Get some bigger brass... 698087;1401655885;fluffypony;nubbins`: at least you'll be able to tell people that you blow a damn good trumpet 698088;1401655921;nubbins`;BingoBoingo it's not the size of the brass but how you apply the lips ;D 698089;1401655934;nubbins`;fluffypony not yet, someday maybe :D 698090;1401655943;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: It's all about the Tuba 698091;1401655958;nubbins`;tell that to my trumpet! 698092;1401656010;decimation;I can sympathize with wanting to quit ... trying to make x86 hardware secure is a herculean task 698093;1401656149;BingoBoingo;decimation: And if you put that together with the identified problems adding to the task 698094;1401656380;decimation;if you read the audit report, see Appendix B to see the "code quality" issues 698095;1401656533;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23947 @ 0.00087916 = 21.0532 BTC [-] {2} 698096;1401656655;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.02724007 = 0.2996 BTC [-] {2} 698097;1401656716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.09000001 = 0.27 BTC [-] 698098;1401656936;jurov;hm.. penguirker is silent 698099;1401656953;jurov;http://explo.yt/post/2014/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2014-marketmaker-statement 698100;1401656954;assbot;F.MPIF May 2014 marketmaker statement - serialized delusions 698101;1401657025;jurov;i flipped 100k shares at profit, but when NAV is considered, made slight loss 698102;1401657269;penguirker;New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2014-marketmaker-statement 698103;1401657287;jurov;oooh 698104;1401657326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07920007 = 0.2376 BTC [-] {2} 698105;1401657387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0792 = 0.396 BTC [-] 698106;1401657448;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 106 @ 0.00215257 = 0.2282 BTC [+] 698107;1401658058;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17868 @ 0.00087809 = 15.6897 BTC [-] {2} 698108;1401658424;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00087806 = 10.5367 BTC [-] 698109;1401658437;benkay;does blockchain.info provide a testnet endpoint? 698110;1401659095;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07941625 = 0.2382 BTC [+] 698111;1401659217;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12024 @ 0.00088082 = 10.591 BTC [+] 698112;1401659827;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 148 @ 0.00209713 = 0.3104 BTC [-] 698113;1401660819;jurov;benkay maybe blockr does 698114;1401661413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00087985 = 6.8188 BTC [-] 698115;1401662328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.246878 BTC [+] 698116;1401662694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.246898 BTC [+] 698117;1401662695;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14757 @ 0.00087841 = 12.9627 BTC [-] 698118;1401662906;Naphex;BingoBoingo: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5212985&cid=47117051 698119;1401662906;assbot;TrueCrypt Website Says To Switch To BitLocker - Slashdot 698120;1401662948;mircea_popescu;kinda yest news no ? 698121;1401662957;Naphex;yeah 698122;1401662980;Naphex;but explains some of the canary 698123;1401663060;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00087889 = 14.5896 BTC [+] {3} 698124;1401663070;mircea_popescu;chetty: http://manipulism.com/ << theyre prolly on to something 698125;1401663072;assbot;Manipulism and the Weapon of Guilt 698126;1401663120;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Thank you for continuing against Usagi. His declaration of "Let me tell you about bingoboingo. He is a successful fund manager because he has never had to weather the storm of an exchange shutdown. Wake up." made me lol. << makes two of us. 698127;1401663138;mircea_popescu;"that bingoboingo thinks he can drive because he's never tried to put the gearbox in reverse straight from the 4th." 698128;1401663182;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.02368627 = 1.0185 BTC [-] {4} 698129;1401663262;mircea_popescu;o yea speaking of deadterra 698130;1401663268;mircea_popescu;;;rated deadterra 698131;1401663268;gribble;You have not yet rated user deadterra 698132;1401663370;kakobrekla;;;rated deadterra 698133;1401663370;gribble;You rated user deadterra on Wed Sep 4 18:41:21 2013, with a rating of -5, and supplied these additional notes: sloppy opprtunistic unreliable, bad at what he does, avoid. 698134;1401663375;mircea_popescu;;;rate deadterra -1 inept crowd follower ; promoted a lengthy list of meanwhile blown assets. 698135;1401663377;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user deadterra has been recorded. 698136;1401663457;kakobrekla;late to the party. 698137;1401663523;mircea_popescu;ya well, we can't all be informed and shit. 698138;1401663655;Blazedout419;that icedrill is a train wreck 698139;1401663915;mircea_popescu;decimation: They audited: the bootloader and the Windows driver << lolaudit oif all time. 698140;1401664007;mircea_popescu;jurov: does anyone know what is last official NAV of F.MPIF? << you'll have to report your trades before that can be published yu know. 698141;1401664038;mircea_popescu;a nm there it is, 698142;1401664261;mircea_popescu;%t 698143;1401664262;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 158 Ask: 248 Last Price: 250 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 698144;1401664280;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00087776 = 11.5864 BTC [-] {2} 698145;1401664287;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, what's your call on avg price for atc ? 698146;1401664341;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0839999 = 0.168 BTC [+] 698147;1401664707;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00087737 = 13.0289 BTC [-] 698148;1401664829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.002299 = 0.1494 BTC [+] {2} 698149;1401664890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00088082 = 3.7875 BTC [+] 698150;1401666049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00087729 = 18.774 BTC [-] {3} 698151;1401666394;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: the funny thing is usagi claims you copied his NYAN fund. But in actuality you took the concept and did it correct. Despite how many scammers were parading as "asset issuers", you managed to recoup ~52% of the original capital invested. MPCD.A based on your statements actually made a profit (since MPCD.A got paid out before B and C of course), etc. 698152;1401666415;thestringpuller;just seeing those numbers again 2 years later, really really made it clear 698153;1401666554;mircea_popescu;!up jomm 698154;1401666565;penguirker;New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-may-2014/ 698155;1401666591;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller, when was this nyan.a thing made ? 698156;1401666598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51398 @ 0.00088074 = 45.2683 BTC [+] {3} 698157;1401666658;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, do i know how much mpif panacea share is worth ? 698158;1401666709;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: unfortunately usagi doesn't keep comprehensive records like yourself so I have to guess 698159;1401666718;thestringpuller;i want to say June 698160;1401666777;thestringpuller;of 2012 698161;1401666814;mircea_popescu;"Back in April we explained to a mostly innocent community what a CDO is and howd it work." 698162;1401666833;mircea_popescu;i fail to see how some forum nitwit implementing badly what he's read of mpoe-pr's posts counts as anything. 698163;1401666842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.0008834 = 2.1078 BTC [+] 698164;1401666866;thestringpuller;yea. sadly the n00b me should have invested in MPCD, but as you once said. We pay for our lessons. 698165;1401666870;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/?topic=76515.msg849401 698166;1401666870;assbot;[MPEx] CDO roll call for bond issuers | Bitcointa.lk 698167;1401667065;mircea_popescu;!up fiftystorms 698168;1401667330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 84 @ 0.0052 = 0.4368 BTC [-] 698169;1401667696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27368 @ 0.00087813 = 24.0327 BTC [-] {3} 698170;1401667818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00210761 = 0.2866 BTC [-] {4} 698171;1401667879;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1233 @ 0.00008163 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {5} 698172;1401668062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.00320008 = 0.192 BTC [-] {4} 698173;1401668063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 86 @ 0.00512069 = 0.4404 BTC [-] {3} 698174;1401668255;kakobrekla;F.MPIF: Panacea: 2014.05; http://dpaste.com/20PK1PV.txt 698175;1401668447;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Looks like we might have to call it 200 satoshis 698176;1401668479;mircea_popescu;makes sense. 698177;1401668485;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, what's it mean to mpif ? 698178;1401668501;mircea_popescu;a ty 698179;1401668514;kakobrekla;i dunno 698180;1401668548;kakobrekla;you gave me 150 now you have 150.47241 698181;1401668611;mircea_popescu;yep 698182;1401668693;kakobrekla;dpaste is not permanent however so perhaps this needs to go someplace else 698183;1401668828;mircea_popescu;prolly ya. 698184;1401668830;mircea_popescu;start a blog! 698185;1401668876;mircea_popescu;anyway, f.mpif may performance, 4.42419221, a little over 1%. 0.5ish of it went to cover for last month's misrepresentation of atc, leaving a little 1% clear. 698186;1401668923;kakobrekla;how about you include it in mpif statement? 698187;1401668974;mircea_popescu;aite ima drop it as a comment on bottom 698188;1401669182;bloctoc;does the 1% go to NAV calculation immediately? 698189;1401669200;mircea_popescu;hm ? 698190;1401669206;mircea_popescu;jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. 698191;1401669546;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That car anology explains sucinctly why I stay with automatic transmissions. I respect the limits of my ability to control a motor vehicle and anything that reliably saves me cogitive overhead is welcome. 698192;1401669582;*;BingoBoingo also has never had a car without automatic headlights... 698193;1401669673;kakobrekla;eh? i dont even think about gears when driving 698194;1401669681;kakobrekla;comes natural after a while 698195;1401669721;BingoBoingo;gears become a hassel when you share the road with American drivers 698196;1401669735;kakobrekla;you havent been in italy 698197;1401669763;kakobrekla;possibly only india could be worse 698198;1401669811;kakobrekla;something like this 698199;1401669812;kakobrekla;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2NHBRO1I--/i67fdhj2pizumpy94fnk.gif 698200;1401669819;kakobrekla;cant find the one i had in mind. 698201;1401669854;mircea_popescu;omfg who are these idiots 698202;1401669904;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: My concern is more the rural roads where I'll be cruising and then an old person in a buick or fucking red neck in a tractor interupts me. 698203;1401670092;kakobrekla;BingoBoingo once you get a hang of it its not more complicated than breaking 698204;1401670118;kakobrekla;do you have the breaks on auto as well? 698205;1401670162;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-may-2014-statement/ 698206;1401670167;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Yeah, but when you are barreling down an open rural highway and half to slow to 20km/h because fucking tractors you need to save mental energy for cursing and obscene gestures 698207;1401670188;BingoBoingo;clutch wastes a foot, shifter wastes a hand 698208;1401670258;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00087693 = 31.9203 BTC [-] {4} 698209;1401670441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00087693 = 4.1216 BTC [-] 698210;1401670510;BingoBoingo;;;rate driving -1 scam 698211;1401670511;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 698212;1401670564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010433 BTC [-] 698213;1401670624;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010592 BTC [+] 698214;1401670773;BingoBoingo;%diff 698215;1401670775;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152857.38 in 5 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.43 698216;1401670830;BingoBoingo;For people who want firepower and a $200 colonoscopy http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-to-auction-gangland-era-tommy-guns-to/article_e44a4553-e50f-5ec4-ab9c-3cfb3e9ecf65.html 698217;1401671350;benkay;whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 698218;1401671362;benkay;if you're not in control of the gearbox, you're not driving the machine 698219;1401671394;benkay;in the same way that if you're relying on an Object Relational Model to talk to your database, you're not actually writing data to your data store. 698220;1401671416;benkay;that layer of abstraction in between you and the machine is going to either give you a headache down the road or you're not going to get the performance the machine is capable of 698221;1401671436;benkay;with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL. 698222;1401671462;benkay;and with an automatic transmission you're limited to "GIVE ME ALL THE FAST RIGHT NOW...please." 698223;1401671494;benkay;that demonic AI in between you and the gearbox will prevent you doing anything to burn fuel at a rate sufficient to eke performance out of the thing. 698224;1401671511;kakobrekla; with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL. <- depends, but in most cases generally not specific to anyone, perf is not an issue 698225;1401671543;benkay;*shrug* 698226;1401671552;benkay;for 90% of derpy web apps, an orm is entirely adequate. 698227;1401671568;thestringpuller;Damn BingoBoingo, i feel the same exact way 698228;1401671571;thestringpuller;fucking driving 698229;1401671572;kakobrekla;even for your mobile apps. 698230;1401671595;benkay;a significant chunk of the remaining apps are going to get popular and have load requirements that rendering the abstraction layer insufferable. 698231;1401671608;benkay;well, especially for mobile apps - in my experience most of the data is local to the phone 698232;1401671626;benkay;that render* 698233;1401671634;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well automatic transmission is less gearbox and more hydaulic slush box 698234;1401671655;benkay;i'm familiar, BingoBoingo 698235;1401671671;benkay;there are still gears, however. 698236;1401671674;benkay;you're talking about the clutch. 698237;1401671714;benkay;"torque converter" 698238;1401672088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-] {2} 698239;1401672097;benkay;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336876.msg6814414#msg6814414 698240;1401672097;assbot;BITEASY.com | Fast Blockchain Explorer | TESTNET | REST API | WEBSOCKETS API | 698241;1401672103;benkay;so who are the blockchain-as-a-service providers? 698242;1401672107;benkay;blockchain.info 698243;1401672110;benkay;blockr.io 698244;1401672117;benkay;biteasy.com 698245;1401672128;benkay;why is there no -assets bc-a-a-s provider? 698246;1401672141;benkay;DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF?! 698247;1401672175;benkay;;;gettrust Transisto 698248;1401672176;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Transisto: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Transisto | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Transisto | Rated since: never 698249;1401672182;benkay;!up Transisto 698250;1401672186;benkay;hey boss how it is 698251;1401672229;benkay;Transisto: ^^ 698252;1401672820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2} 698253;1401672881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.06875002 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2} 698254;1401672942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.0655 = 0.1965 BTC [-] 698255;1401672943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00087599 = 15.4612 BTC [-] {4} 698256;1401673186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.05480166 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2} 698257;1401673298;TomServo;After having driven automatic transmissions all my life and buying an older land cruiser, I have to say driving a manual really is a pleasure. 698258;1401673305;TomServo;I'm annoyed having missed out on it this long. 698259;1401673492;benkay;it's a joy to pick a point on the performance curve. 698260;1401674377;BingoBoingo;http://modernfarmer.com/2014/05/food-politics-pokemon/ 698261;1401674378;assbot;The Food Politics of Pokmon - Modern Farmer 698262;1401674427;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 698263;1401674427;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (120653 shares, 26.21 BTC) 698264;1401674829;BingoBoingo;http://www.cnet.com/news/why-are-sony-and-samsung-keeping-4k-content-to-themselves/ 698265;1401674830;assbot;Why are Sony and Samsung keeping 4K content to themselves? - CNET 698266;1401674894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0008785 = 1.4935 BTC [+] 698267;1401674962;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: you have my hours 698268;1401674976;BingoBoingo;? 698269;1401674994;thestringpuller;lol WOW 698270;1401674997;thestringpuller;i just cannot talk right 698271;1401675001;thestringpuller;i must be autistic or something 698272;1401675015;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Prolly the heat 698273;1401675027;thestringpuller;Damn. I feel like you're using telepathy on me. 698274;1401675088;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Nah, the midwest and south aren't too different this time of year other than the particulars that make the heat and humidity suck 698275;1401675263;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-may-2014-statement/ 698276;1401675589;BingoBoingo;The statements are just flying today 698277;1401676114;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0008785 = 11.5084 BTC [+] 698278;1401676236;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00087866 = 21.0878 BTC [+] {2} 698279;1401676785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.21318728 = 9.1671 BTC [-] {6} 698280;1401677029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00210022 = 0.4179 BTC [-] {5} 698281;1401677151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2488 @ 0.00087561 = 2.1785 BTC [-] 698282;1401678375;benkay;muahaha 698283;1401678409;benkay;on the menu this week: charred corn crepes and long-marinated pastor 698284;1401678454;BingoBoingo;Sounds delicious 698285;1401678685;decimation;mircea_popescu: "the pitch of despair of the Franks and the Goths and whatever other barbarians by far and quite widely exceeded the bitterness of actual Roman Romans " So you are saying that Argentina is roughly upper Germania ca. 700? Sounds legit. 698286;1401678796;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00087561 = 18.2565 BTC [-] 698287;1401679894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16466 @ 0.00087559 = 14.4175 BTC [-] {2} 698288;1401680421;Mats_cd03;lol biteasy is written in clojure 698289;1401680508;kakobrekla;what is biteasy 698290;1401680551;benkay;and mongo 698291;1401681602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-] 698292;1401681623;Mats_cd03;clojure is a vulnerable mess 698293;1401681633;Mats_cd03;cool features though 698294;1401681663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16385 @ 0.0008762 = 14.3565 BTC [+] 698295;1401681671;nubbins`;so essentially it's like a chick with a bunch of piercings 698296;1401681779;Mats_cd03;like ym 698297;1401681846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-] 698298;1401681949;BingoBoingo;Looks like the BitBet propositions cue is filling up after hanbot's statement 698299;1401682324;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 698300;1401682331;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 640.0, vol: 22030.74759333 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 628.746, vol: 17125.44899 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 640.6, vol: 31036.24563128 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 642.0, vol: 40.68878697 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 645.123798, vol: 8361.91820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 632.0, vol: 30.69610392 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 647.268873, vol: 128.12878104 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 698301;1401682332;BingoBoingo;;;more 698302;1401682332;gribble;638.34298799 698303;1401682334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20999 BTC [-] 698304;1401682448;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 698305;1401682448;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.05686104 BTC; -0.11497239 BTC (-0.0688%) since last check 13h 31m 22s ago. 698306;1401682966;thestringpuller;what's the overall ROI on jd mpif account? 698307;1401683081;BingoBoingo;I think they started with 150 BTC, but I'm not exactly sure. 698308;1401683149;BingoBoingo;I have a feeling mike_c already curses the existence of f.mpif 698309;1401683162;thestringpuller;wherefore? 698310;1401683186;BingoBoingo;Or maybe it's 160 they started with 698311;1401683193;BingoBoingo;http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/a-new-investment-fund/ 698312;1401683194;assbot;A New Investment Fund - Btc Alpha 698313;1401683245;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/blackhawks-twitter-account-tells-mexican-president-to-f-1584615115 698314;1401683245;assbot;Blackhawks Twitter Account Tells Mexican President To Fuck His Mother 698315;1401683346;thestringpuller;LOL 698316;1401683432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19075 @ 0.00087578 = 16.7055 BTC [-] {3} 698317;1401683489;nubbins`;bingo lel 698318;1401683493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.209999 BTC [+] 698319;1401683875;asciilifeform;re: truecrypt audit touching none of the interesting stuff: i thought this was well-known. 698320;1401683958;benkay; clojure is a vulnerable mess // specifics? 698321;1401683981;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22408 @ 0.0008748 = 19.6025 BTC [-] {4} 698322;1401684005;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03, benkay: jvm. 698323;1401684203;thestringpuller;nubbins` i needs more arts 698324;1401684469;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00087985 = 20.7645 BTC [+] {3} 698325;1401684599;BingoBoingo;Headed to bed, but I'll just suppose now... Maybe the most important May Trilema http://trilema.com/2014/the-instrumentation-of-humanity/ 698326;1401684600;assbot;The instrumentation of humanity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 698327;1401685201;benkay;Mats_cd03: got tunes? 698328;1401685366;nubbins`;oh hi 698329;1401685372;thestringpuller;;;google shadows childish gambino 698330;1401685373;gribble;Childish Gambino – II. shadows Lyrics | Rap Genius: ; CHILDISH GAMBINO LYRICS - Shadows - A-Z Lyrics: ; Childish Gambino - Shadows (Directed by : Lizzy Ashliegh) on Vimeo: 698331;1401685380;nubbins`;who was asking about shirts 698332;1401685384;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx 698333;1401685384;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 698334;1401685420;nubbins`;can't figure out a way to get the channel name + freenode in there without making it look like something you bought at a convention 698335;1401685425;nubbins`;s/bought/were given 698336;1401685440;nubbins`;but it has a certain mystique as-is 698337;1401685459;thestringpuller;looks like bitcoin-assets is due for it's own icon? 698338;1401685464;thestringpuller;logo 698339;1401685465;thestringpuller;etc. 698340;1401685586;asciilifeform;re: conundrum from last night: i did find out who was the original maker of ferroresonant transformers - which the box that hummed under classical soviet tvs was copied from. 698341;1401685595;asciilifeform;outfit called 'SOLA.' still exists. 698342;1401685689;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00087438 = 42.1451 BTC [-] {5} 698343;1401685750;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21 = 0.63 BTC [+] 698344;1401686110;asciilifeform;e.g. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sola-Constant-Voltage-Transformer-Harmonic-Neutralized-Ferroresonant-Conditioner-/281051274263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416ff61c17 698345;1401686112;assbot;Sola Constant Voltage Transformer Harmonic Neutralized Ferroresonant Conditioner | eBay 698346;1401686236;nubbins`;thestringpuller http://imgur.com/pQbnKox 698347;1401686236;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 698348;1401686238;nubbins`;keep it simple 698349;1401686294;asciilifeform;apparently i should've asked 'audiophile' fanatics. 698350;1401686299;asciilifeform;they knew. 698351;1401686360;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu this'd be the pill against your smoking hdd controllers, as i gather. 698352;1401686361;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698353;1401686380;kakobrekla;audiophiles will say such transformers are ewww 698354;1401686398;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: on account of the 'bzzzz' or other reason ? 698355;1401686407;kakobrekla;other 698356;1401686414;asciilifeform;curious then 698357;1401686428;asciilifeform;why? 698358;1401686456;kakobrekla;hrm ill try to find the link 698359;1401686581;nubbins`;;;sell 1 "Unofficial #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25 USD "Worldwide shipping included. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx" 698360;1401686581;assbot;imgur: the simple 404 page 698361;1401686581;gribble;Order id 20669 created. 698362;1401686734;nubbins`;can add PGP fingerprint to the back for an extra $5 if people want 698363;1401686745;kakobrekla;asciilifeform apparently they worry about capacitance 698364;1401686760;kakobrekla;asciilifeform if you want some snake oil video that presumably explains this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic1DnQ7Uoyw 698365;1401686760;assbot;Core Audio Technology: Audiophile Power Conditioners + Kenai - YouTube 698366;1401687320;kakobrekla;not saying this is legit, more saying you shouldnt listen to audiophiles whent it comes down to elect 698367;1401687351;asciilifeform;listened to it. screw audophiles. bought 'Sola EPC 210-60.' 698368;1401687363;nubbins`;pseudoscience abounds at the edge of science and consumerism 698369;1401687438;asciilifeform;30kg of ferroresonant pleasure. 698370;1401687451;kakobrekla;your needs are also different. 698371;1401687474;asciilifeform;just tired of snow crashing pc when neighbours turn on their electric chairs (or whatever it is they've got in basement) 698372;1401687502;kakobrekla;where dafuq do you live? 698373;1401687563;kakobrekla;plot twist, ascii is the gasenwagon driver. 698374;1401687581;asciilifeform;lol 698375;1401687596;asciilifeform;moves into a small house. previously in a flat, where no such problem. 698376;1401687599;asciilifeform;go figure. 698377;1401687624;kakobrekla;why do you dislike the ups? 698378;1401687642;asciilifeform;ups is relay-based. it does entirely nothing except if mains cuts out for 200 msec or so. 698379;1401687653;asciilifeform;i've one, like everybody else 698380;1401687658;kakobrekla;or if it drops a bit 698381;1401687665;kakobrekla;or if it goes over 698382;1401687670;asciilifeform;for 200msec. 698383;1401687684;asciilifeform;does nothing against little spikes 698384;1401687700;asciilifeform;for that you need a soviet-style massive 1:1 transformer 698385;1401687710;kakobrekla;200 cant be rigth 698386;1401687723;asciilifeform;sure it can. wondering why pc doesn't die in 200msec? 698387;1401687731;asciilifeform;massive capacitors in dc power supply. 698388;1401687740;kakobrekla;johnnyguru had a nice test of this 698389;1401687749;asciilifeform;? 698390;1401687750;kakobrekla;how long does it take for various psu to die 698391;1401687763;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 567 @ 0.00211298 = 1.1981 BTC [+] {2} 698392;1401687767;kakobrekla;like half of them didnt live up to atx spec 698393;1401687775;asciilifeform;who surprised? not me. 698394;1401687885;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 62 @ 0.0235 = 1.457 BTC [-] {2} 698395;1401687960;kakobrekla;blah cant find the link 698396;1401688129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20148987 BTC [-] 698397;1401688312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20104256 BTC [-] 698398;1401688373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20104213 BTC [-] 698399;1401688529;kakobrekla;ok maybe it wasnt johnnguru 698400;1401688532;kakobrekla;http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/09/21/what-is-the-best-600w-psu/14 698401;1401688532;assbot;Efficiency and Hold-Up Time | bit-tech.net 698402;1401688539;kakobrekla;>Recorded Hold-up time. ATX spec recommendation: 17ms 698403;1401688548;kakobrekla;see them go from 15 to 35 698404;1401689898;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00088113 = 1.586 BTC [+] 698405;1401689898;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20134277 BTC [+] 698406;1401690142;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00088113 = 9.0756 BTC [+] 698407;1401690691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00087835 = 10.8915 BTC [-] {2} 698408;1401691157;jurov; [00:33:27] jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. << so i should value fmpif position at current offering sell price? 698409;1401691576;jurov;benkay: have you tried sqlalchemy? as soon as one needs to create query programmatically, it's much better than gluing together sql strings 698410;1401691598;benkay;sqlalchemy's just about makes it doable 698411;1401691632;benkay;saved me a lot of work recently with simple stuff that works-as-expected like lazily moving the cursor through huge tables integrated with list comprehension in python 698412;1401691718;benkay;sqlalchemy's like an orm-factory dsl 698413;1401691765;benkay;i guess i've just had really shitty experiences in picking up a lot of orm/database tangles 698414;1401692230;benkay;random_cat_: get together again on Tuesday? i'll stick around this time, i promise 698415;1401692338;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.02360001 = 0.2832 BTC [+] 698416;1401692475;xmj;yup 698417;1401692622;jurov;asciilifeform, you say there are no truly online ups on the market (where batteries are always connected to an inverter)? 698418;1401692783;jurov;nubbins`: does it have bitcoin-assets mention anywhere? but that's prolly up to me to explain heh 698419;1401693192;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00087886 = 11.1176 BTC [+] {2} 698420;1401693517;jurov;;;ticker 698421;1401693518;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 625.0, Best ask: 627.4, Bid-ask spread: 2.40000, Last trade: 627.79, 24 hour volume: 22979.84884463, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 645.011183151 698422;1401693525;jurov;;;bc,stats 698423;1401693527;gribble;Current Blocks: 303781 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 634 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 14 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11339302655.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.45071 698424;1401693680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.02999997 = 0.45 BTC [+] {3} 698425;1401694046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13603 @ 0.00088115 = 11.9863 BTC [+] {2} 698426;1401697795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10124 @ 0.00087829 = 8.8918 BTC [-] 698427;1401698283;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00087829 = 14.3161 BTC [-] 698428;1401698771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.0008786 = 16.9131 BTC [+] {2} 698429;1401699532;fluffypony;LOL! 698430;1401699534;fluffypony;"Maybe Kumala could ask for usagi's help, I heard he's quite good with online wallets." 698431;1401699539;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632487.msg7082550#msg7082550 698432;1401699540;assbot;WARNING: Crypto::stocks currently not allowing withdrawals 698433;1401699542;fluffypony;pure gold 698434;1401699669;jurov;gonna ask surda how he's going to write off the loss according to austrian accounting standards, if this gets full gox 698435;1401700052;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00087711 = 17.5422 BTC [-] {3} 698436;1401700254;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147 698437;1401700254;assbot;[ANN][CLAM] CLAMS > Proof-Of-Chain > @AGX.io 698438;1401700275;fluffypony;"1. Run clam-qt.exe once to auto-magically create the AppData/Clam folder. 698439;1401700276;fluffypony;2. Copy the BTC, LTC or DOGE wallet.dat file into the AppData/Clam folder. 698440;1401700276;fluffypony;3. Run clam-qt.exe with the --salvage wallet argument. 698441;1401700276;fluffypony;OPTIONAL: Enjoy your share of free CLAMS" 698442;1401700291;fluffypony;so basically, hand your privkeys over, and we promise we'll give you CLAMS 698443;1401700601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 380 @ 0.0761436 = 28.9346 BTC [-] {24} 698444;1401700898;fluffypony;nubbins`: t-shirts look good, why not put "#bitcoin-assets // freenode" on the back? 698445;1401700928;xmj;make it american apparel, they have good shirts 698446;1401700961;fluffypony;has anyone played around with hamsterdb as an embedded keyvalue store? 698447;1401700967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00087656 = 3.1837 BTC [-] 698448;1401701587;mircea_popescu;!up ET__ 698449;1401701868;ET__;hello 698450;1401701885;ET__;thanks for voicing me 698451;1401701887;Naphex;regarding truecrypt shutdown, most of the posts regarding it have the same comments, in slightly different writeing spanned across most top posts :o 698452;1401701940;mircea_popescu;sure. 698453;1401701949;mircea_popescu;Naphex, you noticed that too huh ? 698454;1401701964;Naphex;yep 698455;1401701970;mircea_popescu;usg contractors are getting shittier each year. 698456;1401701998;mircea_popescu;pretty soon it'll be like soviet government official soap. 698457;1401702005;mircea_popescu;people use it as an abrasive. 698458;1401702032;Naphex;heh 698459;1401702040;Naphex;looks like the same systems the use for elections 698460;1401702049;mircea_popescu;yup 698461;1401702067;mircea_popescu;which is exactly why it's so multistupid : not only it fails for its intended purpose, 698462;1401702083;mircea_popescu;but it allows cheap diagnosis of the means available for a critical process. 698463;1401702492;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 544 @ 0.00048879 = 0.2659 BTC [+] {3} 698464;1401702675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00087671 = 8.3287 BTC [+] 698465;1401702736;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2289618 = 0.4579 BTC [+] {2} 698466;1401702887;mircea_popescu;;;later tell decimation well, the DC part of argentina's "washington dc" is roughly the size of france. it's a huge country. as such, it's upper germania, illyricum, syria, v 698467;1401702887;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698468;1401702947;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: so essentially it's like a chick with a bunch of piercings << dude that\s tje best description of clojure i ever heard, and you don't even code. 698469;1401702960;xmj;LOL 698470;1401702964;mircea_popescu;not for lack of trying, either. 698471;1401702968;xmj;amazing. 698472;1401702968;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 698473;1401702977;*;xmj highfives assbot 698474;1401703008;mircea_popescu;the curse of neckbeards, to be so fucking incapable of expression that it's upon the innocent bystanders to describe their situation, hopes and aspirations, spiritual being. 698475;1401703055;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: I think they started with 150 BTC, but I'm not exactly sure. << started with 50 then got another 113.change 698476;1401703529;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 304 @ 0.00214648 = 0.6525 BTC [+] 698477;1401703590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.22899966 = 1.374 BTC [+] {2} 698478;1401703651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.229 = 1.374 BTC [+] 698479;1401703864;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: 698480;1401703864;mircea_popescu;;;sell 1 "Unofficial #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25 USD "Worldwide shipping included. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx << you can make it official, what. :D 698481;1401703864;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 698482;1401703865;gribble;Error: No closing quotation 698483;1401704187;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: plot twist, ascii is the gasenwagon driver. << wait i thought ascii was mpoe-pr 698484;1401704315;mircea_popescu;jurov: [00:33:27] jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. << so i should value fmpif position at current offering sell price? << i've used the 30day average. seems reasonable valuation for a held security, but it's not mandatory, you can value whichever way you think reasonable. 698485;1401704342;mircea_popescu;this being the advantage of having multiple minds involved, for the public, and this is what a liberal profession is : you get to make calls. 698486;1401704424;jurov;yes, 30d is reasonable. only had some idea, that maybe we need somthing more stable 698487;1401704444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.02992857 = 1.0475 BTC [-] {3} 698488;1401704451;jurov;since mpif holding itself... 698489;1401704468;jurov;will fix the stmt 698490;1401704472;mircea_popescu;well you can use the nav too, just, obviously three weeks in the 3 week old nav is kinda off. 698491;1401704495;jurov;ic 698492;1401704502;mircea_popescu;!jd mpif 698493;1401704503;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.00174924 BTC; -0.05511180 BTC (-0.0330%) since last check 6h 7m 35s ago. 698494;1401704508;jurov;!t m f.mpif 698495;1401704508;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (120653 shares, 26.21 BTC) 698496;1401704535;jurov;0.00021724 is it then 698497;1401704576;mircea_popescu;jurov: 698498;1401704577;mircea_popescu;gonna ask surda how he's going to write off the loss according to austrian accounting standards, if this gets full gox <<< keep me posted lol 698499;1401704619;mircea_popescu;"I almost listed something on Cryptostocks, but think I will wait and reassess before I do. What we need as a community is to not accept these low standards of service. " 698500;1401704644;mircea_popescu;translation : "everyone else should put some work into making sure i don';t need to put any work or thought into doing anything i feel like doingt" 698501;1401704655;mircea_popescu;you can spot a us citizen a mile away by the way their brain stinks. 698502;1401704688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17176 @ 0.00087777 = 15.0766 BTC [+] {3} 698503;1401704733;fluffypony;lol 698504;1401704764;fluffypony;speaking of "community", I had a charming conversation with my wife yesterday during the 4000 BTC dump 698505;1401704771;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << doi the graphs stop like a week ago ? 698506;1401704771;assbot;#bitcoin-assets stats 698507;1401704783;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 698508;1401704784;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 633.84, Best ask: 634.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 634.81, 24 hour volume: 23570.14428586, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 644.972670427 698509;1401704790;fluffypony;she: "why doesn't someone just make a post and say that nobody must sell Bitcoin under $700, and then it will go up over $700?" 698510;1401704791;mircea_popescu;dump that did nothing, incidentally. 698511;1401704804;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, lol didja link her to mine ? 698512;1401704816;fluffypony;which one? 698513;1401704832;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema bitcoin not worth 100 stop buying 698514;1401704833;gribble;People! Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! - Trilema: ; MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 698515;1401704912;fluffypony;nice, sending that to her now 698516;1401704925;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema in which noobs learn lessons 698517;1401704926;gribble;In which noobs learn lessons and pay for the privilege pe Trilema ...: ; The EVE online noob guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 698518;1401704929;mircea_popescu;send her that, too. 698519;1401705115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00087841 = 10.7166 BTC [+] 698520;1401705179;jurov;http://explo.yt/post/2014/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2014-marketmaker-statement updated, should be final 698521;1401705179;assbot;F.MPIF May 2014 marketmaker statement - serialized delusions 698522;1401705239;fluffypony;I love how the title ends with "serialized delusions" 698523;1401705243;fluffypony;makes for much confidence :-P 698524;1401705254;mircea_popescu;serialized title. 698525;1401705542;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00087671 = 7.7589 BTC [-] 698526;1401705953;jurov;i can always switch it to "The First And Only Exclusive Coolness" shit 698527;1401706196;mircea_popescu;biggest. 698528;1401706203;mircea_popescu;don't forget biggest, somehow this matters. 698529;1401706215;nubbins`;jurov, fluffypony: could have optional "#bitcoin-assets / freenode" etc on the back. i'll skip it for mine :D 698530;1401706217;fluffypony;and best, please 698531;1401706229;mircea_popescu;i have no idea why exactly, as mike_c aptly pointed out size and especiallyu outsize is the worst enemy of good financials, 698532;1401706240;mircea_popescu;but somehow the kids that dream themselves ceos really like BIGGEST 698533;1401706256;fluffypony;ok nubbins` better idea - how about on the back you put "First. Biggest. Only. Best. Exclusive." 698534;1401706299;mircea_popescu;or for that mannter Firnly. Biggsive. Onest. Best. Exclusest. 698535;1401706307;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: best description of a vulnerable mess with cool features you ever heard, too. this is because i both used to be into chicks with bunches of piercings, and also write code 698536;1401706331;mircea_popescu;o, in your youth like ? 698537;1401706370;nubbins`;hey now, i'm only 32 ;( 698538;1401706398;nubbins`;;;view 698539;1401706400;gribble;#20669 Mon Jun 2 01:22:41 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 Unofficial #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 25 USD (Worldwide shipping included. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 698540;1401706434;nubbins`;;;remove 20669 698541;1401706434;gribble;Order 20669 removed. 698542;1401706464;nubbins`;;;sell 1 "OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25 USD "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx" 698543;1401706464;assbot;imgur: the simple 404 page 698544;1401706464;gribble;Order id 20670 created. 698545;1401706474;*;nubbins` dusts hands 698546;1401706517;nubbins`;;;calc 25/[ticker --last] 698547;1401706519;gribble;0.0394004822619 698548;1401706525;nubbins`;a bargain at twice the price 698549;1401706537;mircea_popescu;4 bitcents a shirt? 698550;1401706568;nubbins`;i know, right? 698551;1401706596;fluffypony;ok nubbins` 698552;1401706601;mircea_popescu;it's almost like we're back in victoria's time 698553;1401706609;fluffypony;I'll take 6 - 4 for me, 2 for the wife. how do I order? 698554;1401706611;nubbins`;this time last year, i was selling friedcat shirts for ~0.14 btc 698555;1401706614;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety hey would you like a shirt ? 698556;1401706615;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698557;1401706710;nubbins`;6! let me get you a shipping discount 698558;1401706892;nubbins`;;;calc 130/[ticker --last] 698559;1401706893;gribble;0.20643767964 698560;1401706901;nubbins`;fluffypony: ^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 698561;1401706924;fluffypony;7cfc61ea75971566fda5a86626581b3dfd47d10aeb87bfff043b22c385b54d6c 698562;1401706942;fluffypony;let me pm you sizes and address 698563;1401706946;nubbins`;tyvm, please do 698564;1401707061;xmj;does anyone in the SEPA zone want to accept fiat and ship me a shirt to estonia? 698565;1401707104;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety also, do you want to ship some shirts to people ? 698566;1401707106;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698567;1401707191;xmj;Thank you 698568;1401707311;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00010992 = 0.1649 BTC [+] {2} 698569;1401707433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+] 698570;1401708165;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00087591 = 23.7372 BTC [-] {3} 698571;1401708649;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/yield-to-the-moose-wildlife-expert-urges-1.2661131 698572;1401708650;assbot;'Yield to the moose,' wildlife expert urges - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 698573;1401708695;mircea_popescu;women only or both genders ? 698574;1401708714;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24766 @ 0.00087484 = 21.6663 BTC [-] 698575;1401708775;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.00087436 = 7.9427 BTC [-] 698576;1401708928;nubbins`;generally both genders 698577;1401708954;nubbins`;even the strength of a man is no match for the mighty moose! 698578;1401708958;nubbins`;;D 698579;1401709763;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-may-2014-statement/ 698580;1401710234;nubbins`;so i found a copy of the first canadian pressing of bob dylan's first album 698581;1401710247;nubbins`;and the stickers are on the wrong sides of the record :0 698582;1401710249;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/LCtD4vJ.jpg 698583;1401710263;danielpbarron;<+nubbins`> jurov, fluffypony: could have optional "#bitcoin-assets / freenode" etc on the back. i'll skip it for mine :D << i'd like one too if it has #bitcoin-assets on it somewhere 698584;1401710273;nubbins`;compare matrix stamp XSM-55621 (side 1) vs label text XSM-55622 (side 2) 698585;1401710333;nubbins`;danielpbarron: no sweat, i'm doing the same for fluffypony 698586;1401710346;nubbins`;;;calc 25/[ticker --last] 698587;1401710347;gribble;0.0396831695741 698588;1401710349;nubbins`;^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 698589;1401710391;danielpbarron;gonna have to get back to you on payment; didn't realize it was that ready to go 698590;1401710507;nubbins`;heh. well i'm not printing them today or anything 698591;1401710528;nubbins`;i'll probably do up the screens in the next day or so, and keep 'em around for a week or two 698592;1401711337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00087436 = 0.9181 BTC [-] 698593;1401711529;asciilifeform;;;later tell jurov: online (inverter always running) ups exists. 698594;1401711530;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698595;1401711537;asciilifeform;;;later tell jurov: $10k or so. 698596;1401711537;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698597;1401711598;asciilifeform;truecrypt... ...same comments, ... top posts << this is SOP 698598;1401711663;Mats_cd03;benkay: http://www.lispcast.com/clojure-web-security 698599;1401711664;assbot;Clojure Web Security | LispCast 698600;1401711764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0838899 = 0.4194 BTC [+] 698601;1401712045;Mats_cd03;https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/clojure/qUk-bM0JSGc 698602;1401712046;assbot;Google Groups 698603;1401712252;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00087521 = 21.1801 BTC [+] {3} 698604;1401712314;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10589 @ 0.00087747 = 9.2915 BTC [+] 698605;1401712496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10973 @ 0.00087412 = 9.5917 BTC [-] {3} 698606;1401712578;asciilifeform;http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/lewis-katz-media-and-sports-mogul-dead-in-massachusetts-fireball-plane-crash-1.2661059 698607;1401712579;assbot;Lewis Katz, media and sports mogul, dead in Massachusetts 'fireball' plane crash - World - CBC News 698608;1401712583;asciilifeform;^ 'can also have problems' 698609;1401712980;artifexd;nubbins`: Address and amount for 2 t-shirts please. No #bitcoin-assets on the back. 1 XL. 1 S. 698610;1401713045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00239643 = 0.1438 BTC [-] 698611;1401713106;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15942 @ 0.00087366 = 13.9279 BTC [-] 698612;1401713141;nubbins`;;;calc 45/[ticker --last] 698613;1401713142;gribble;0.0714285714286 698614;1401713155;nubbins`;^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 698615;1401713241;artifexd;I rounded up to 0.07142858. Will PM you the physical address. 698616;1401713246;nubbins`;tyvm! 698617;1401713435;artifexd;Sent: http://blockr.io/tx/info/97dd81417ddc33ca8bd6ba8d6b3cce0faf8ca45deaf98e53cd03e020a496ac2c 698618;1401713472;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00087562 = 6.9174 BTC [+] 698619;1401713551;mircea_popescu;!up newar 698620;1401713599;mircea_popescu;wait, what ?! 698621;1401713609;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot newar 698622;1401713610;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Newar!~Newar@27-142-145-94.rev.home.ne.jp. Trust relationship from user assbot to user newar: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=newar | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=newar | Rated since: Mon Jun 4 19:36:39 2012 698623;1401713616;nubbins`;!down Newar 698624;1401713619;nubbins`;;( 698625;1401713626;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, didja break assbot ?! 698626;1401713627;nubbins`;WHAT HAVE YOU DONE 698627;1401713689;fluffypony;http://www.bornrich.com/lunch-date-ben-bernanke-70500.html 698628;1401713690;assbot;A Lunch Date with Ben Bernanke for $70,500 | Bornrich 698629;1401713740;pankkake;can I give him bills I printed myself? 698630;1401713899;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00087782 = 10.1388 BTC [+] {2} 698631;1401714083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00087792 = 9.7449 BTC [+] 698632;1401714129;Apocalyptic;you can try giving him some bernancoins 698633;1401714326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+] 698634;1401714448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10713 @ 0.00087675 = 9.3926 BTC [-] 698635;1401714676;nubbins`;imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour 698636;1401714689;fluffypony;yeah 698637;1401714696;fluffypony;when you can just come here and spend time with me for free 698638;1401714699;fluffypony;I mean come on 698639;1401714700;fluffypony;:-P 698640;1401714706;nubbins`;nod 698641;1401714717;nubbins`;for those who like the deluxe, you can spend time with me for 1btc/hour 698642;1401714731;nubbins`;limited time only, one per customer per day 698643;1401714793;fluffypony;hah hah 698644;1401715363;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00087845 = 13.0011 BTC [+] {3} 698645;1401715729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.081 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2} 698646;1401715732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0280001 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2} 698647;1401716095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15610 @ 0.00087507 = 13.6598 BTC [-] {3} 698648;1401716339;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4097 @ 0.00087906 = 3.6015 BTC [+] 698649;1401716827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07700011 = 0.154 BTC [-] {2} 698650;1401716828;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00194697 = 0.3232 BTC [-] {6} 698651;1401717264;ThickAsThieves;Mornin' 698652;1401717284;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves 698653;1401717290;fluffypony;did you receive 800 BTC by accident? 698654;1401717293;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/273vi2/if_you_just_received_800_bitcoin_out_of_the_blue/ 698655;1401717293;assbot;If you just received 800 Bitcoin out of the blue, it was from me : Bitcoin 698656;1401717319;ThickAsThieves;lol 698657;1401717336;asciilifeform;'the sapper errs once.' 698658;1401717345;pankkake;"Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago 698659;1401717345;fluffypony;"Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago 698660;1401717346;fluffypony;ae1332a4-f3c0-4805-89d4-396387e7a96e,8c71169c-c0b2-46a8-97c8-8940cf2bb89a,"2013-04-16 18:37:04",deposit,300 698661;1401717346;fluffypony;So. I guess my goxcoins just became 800/202000 = 0.4% more worth. Thanks buddy." 698662;1401717374;pankkake;that happened to me with another fail-exchange, an european one I forgot the name of 698663;1401717376;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15903 @ 0.00087933 = 13.984 BTC [+] 698664;1401717382;pankkake;but I eventually got it back 698665;1401717393;nubbins`;2010s, the decade of the paste-fail 698666;1401717409;pankkake;that's what made me change clients 698667;1401717437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 82 @ 0.07552442 = 6.193 BTC [-] {7} 698668;1401717438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.229 = 0.687 BTC [+] 698669;1401717643;jurov;asciilifeform here they say typical ransfer time 4ms and that's just cheapest 60euro turd: http://eu.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups_systems/value/value1000eilcd.htm 698670;1401717645;assbot;UPS Backup | Power Supply | Emergency Power Systems CyberPower Systems, Inc. 698671;1401717668;jurov;online units for servers are just few hundred euros 698672;1401717682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07431927 = 1.1891 BTC [-] {4} 698673;1401717688;jurov;i'm curious where did you get the 200ms figure from 698674;1401717788;jurov;my flat seems to be wired directly to elevator, psu did survive the surges, but lcd flickered 698675;1401717801;jurov;even cheapo ups solved that completely 698676;1401717926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.229 BTC [+] 698677;1401718170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.24265837 = 3.8825 BTC [+] {5} 698678;1401718231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24259337 = 1.213 BTC [-] {3} 698679;1401718292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.245691 = 2.9483 BTC [+] {3} 698680;1401718353;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2469 = 1.2345 BTC [+] 698681;1401718541;mircea_popescu; imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour << i can see that. what i can';t see is... bernanke ? srsly ? 698682;1401718586;jurov;what was the assassination market bounty? isn't cheaper to kill him? 698683;1401718619;mike_c;heh. I *tried* to verify the fund's balances :) http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2014#691453 698684;1401718619;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 698685;1401718666;mircea_popescu;mike_c, still dones't wash ? 698686;1401718688;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-me-being-completely-spaced-out/#comment-100653 << check out my fangirl. 698687;1401718689;assbot;This is me being completely spaced out pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 698688;1401718693;mike_c;i haven't tried again since new report, still catching up 698689;1401718720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00087679 = 3.2003 BTC [-] {2} 698690;1401718919;nubbins`;mircea_popescu, not sure if Ellie Kesselman or ELIZA Kesselman 698691;1401719277;nubbins`;http://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-s-thompson-on-finding-meaning-2014-5 698692;1401719277;assbot;Hunter S. Thompson On Finding Meaning - Business Insider 698693;1401719284;nubbins`;maybe the most lucid article BI has published thus far 698694;1401719351;mike_c;a straight republishing of someone else's work. that's one way to improve their site. 698695;1401719454;mircea_popescu;i thought its eliza 698696;1401719557;mike_c;of course, BI managed to make it worse by adding their own emphasis to things. 698697;1401719587;mike_c;like hunter s. thompson needs fucking BI to improve his writing. 698698;1401719634;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00087324 = 12.138 BTC [-] {2} 698699;1401720000;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00087317 = 14.4946 BTC [-] {2} 698700;1401720313;nubbins`;i know right 698701;1401720322;nubbins`;"this letter could use some editorial emphasis" 698702;1401720337;jurov;!up belcher 698703;1401720346;jurov;!up lolstate 698704;1401720368;jurov;!up daybyter 698705;1401720389;jurov;!up lnostdal 698706;1401720399;daybyter;thanks! 698707;1401720412;jurov;daybyter it's only for 30mins 698708;1401720426;daybyter;I know... :-( 698709;1401720470;jurov;Sabastan, nope. stop going in and out 698710;1401720671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.05805537 = 0.5225 BTC [+] {4} 698711;1401720793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00087553 = 12.2136 BTC [+] 698712;1401720854;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00087242 = 22.0722 BTC [-] {2} 698713;1401721582;Naphex;so tired of coding lately, damn you burnout syndrome! 698714;1401721769;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.0008716 = 11.7666 BTC [-] {3} 698715;1401721782;*;jurov shots a knowing glance to Naphex 698716;1401722196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9292 @ 0.00087157 = 8.0986 BTC [-] 698717;1401723111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21313505 = 1.2788 BTC [-] {4} 698718;1401723172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00087553 = 5.297 BTC [+] 698719;1401723294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625548 BTC [+] 698720;1401723355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21625758 = 0.4325 BTC [+] 698721;1401723416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625758 BTC [+] 698722;1401723477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2162576 BTC [+] 698723;1401723599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 83 @ 0.00374214 = 0.3106 BTC [+] {4} 698724;1401723626;mike_c;^ ouch. 698725;1401723661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+] 698726;1401723666;mike_c;;;calc (0.0055 - 0.00374) / 0.0055 698727;1401723666;gribble;0.32 698728;1401723703;mike_c;;;calc (0.0075 - 0.00374) / 0.0075 698729;1401723703;gribble;0.501333333333 698730;1401723718;mike_c;32% loss for ipo investors, 50% for 2po. 698731;1401723721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+] 698732;1401723729;pankkake;had to remember I ignore havelock trades 698733;1401723757;pankkake;it looked like you were talking about MPOE 698734;1401723767;pankkake;that's why ignores are not practical on IRC :( 698735;1401723782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.004 = 0.16 BTC [+] 698736;1401723800;mike_c;heh. how can you ignore havelol? it's more fun than the forums. 698737;1401723815;pankkake;too much noise 698738;1401723952;mike_c;;;seen the20year 698739;1401723953;gribble;the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: Corn oil sells locally for $3.25/gal 698740;1401723965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+] 698741;1401724007;pankkake;is it down in USD terms? 698742;1401724019;pankkake;because it's clear it was never a btc investment 698743;1401724087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [MS] 158 @ 0.001352 = 0.2136 BTC [+] {2} 698744;1401724114;mike_c;!t h rent 698745;1401724115;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00320000 / 0.00369319 / 0.00450000 (227 shares, 0.83835347 BTC), 7D: 0.00280000 / 0.00412473 / 0.00546990 (1556 shares, 6.41807687 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.005765 / 0.00710000 (7225 shares, 41.65208891 BTC) 698746;1401724134;moiety;hullo! 698747;1401724139;fluffypony;OLA 698748;1401724143;fluffypony;how goeth the phone line? 698749;1401724177;moiety;very quiet but i have been back and forth this past couple days fluffypony got my keys yesterday so been taking cars of things through 698750;1401724183;fluffypony;ah ok 698751;1401724188;fluffypony;for the sexperiment 698752;1401724193;fluffypony;sorry - sex weeks show 698753;1401724200;moiety;;;later tell mircea_popescu tshirts? 698754;1401724200;gribble;The operation succeeded. 698755;1401724209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20600007 = 1.236 BTC [-] {3} 698756;1401724221;moiety;fluffypony: lol yup. i'm a bit scared. it's a lot bigger than i remember it. 698757;1401724236;mike_c;pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227 698758;1401724239;moiety;how is everyone here? 698759;1401724263;pankkake;well, ouch 698760;1401724284;pankkake;;;view #20670 698761;1401724284;gribble;Error: No orders found matching these criteria. 698762;1401724286;pankkake;;;view 20670 698763;1401724288;gribble;#20670 Mon Jun 2 06:54:03 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 25 USD (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 698764;1401724319;Apocalyptic;mike_c, $0.227 is 50% of $0.345 ? 698765;1401724357;pankkake;he was talking btc wise 698766;1401724411;Apocalyptic;oh I see 698767;1401724545;danielpbarron;if payment is expected in BTC, it might make more sense to put the "otherthing" quantity in as "25/{bitstampask}" 698768;1401724564;nubbins`;can i do that 698769;1401724569;danielpbarron;ya 698770;1401724580;nubbins`;;;sell 1 widget @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "testing" 698771;1401724581;gribble;Order id 20671 created. 698772;1401724586;nubbins`;;;view 20671 698773;1401724588;gribble;#20671 Mon Jun 2 11:56:00 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 widget @ 0.03981 BTC (testing) 698774;1401724591;nubbins`;huh. 698775;1401724592;danielpbarron;:) 698776;1401724602;nubbins`;;;remove 20761 698777;1401724602;gribble;Error: No orders found to remove. Try the 'view' command to view your open orders. 698778;1401724605;nubbins`;;;remove 20671 698779;1401724606;gribble;Order 20671 removed. 698780;1401724623;nubbins`;;;remove 20670 698781;1401724623;gribble;Order 20670 removed. 698782;1401724649;nubbins`;;;sell 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx" 698783;1401724649;assbot;imgur: the simple 404 page 698784;1401724649;gribble;Error: '#bitcoin-assets' is not a valid price input. 698785;1401724658;nubbins`;;;sell 1.0 "OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx" 698786;1401724658;assbot;imgur: the simple 404 page 698787;1401724659;gribble;Order id 20672 created. 698788;1401724663;nubbins`;;;view 20672 698789;1401724665;gribble;#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.03981 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 698790;1401724672;*;nubbins` dusts hands 698791;1401724676;nubbins`;thanks for the tip! 698792;1401724819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19831909 BTC to 9`141 shares, 24049 satoshi per share 698793;1401724941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.02438999 = 0.9756 BTC [+] 698794;1401725243;asciilifeform;jurov: the 200ms figure was taken from actual measurement of an ancient ups i owned several years ago. i can easily believe 4ms with solid-state relays, in modern unit. still does nothing against small transients. 698795;1401725299;asciilifeform;jurov: 'online' ups was costly last i priced it (for 1kW+. the tiny things are worthless in my setup) and rather inefficient (~60%) 698796;1401725334;asciilifeform;jurov: plus, ferroresonant monster gets 25+ years of lifetime, vs. the laughable 3 or 4 modern semiconductor-based ups is good for. 698797;1401725375;jurov;no issue with that :) 698798;1401725551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07997213 = 0.1599 BTC [+] 698799;1401725566;nubbins`;so pascale had this dream last night where she decided that she'd like to get a large dick sewn onto our female cat 698800;1401725581;nubbins`;had a consultation with the vet, chose a nice model 698801;1401725605;nubbins`;then later telephoned the vet to discuss the particulars 698802;1401725630;nubbins`;vet says "je préfère parler en français au téléphone" 698803;1401725647;nubbins`;p responds "ah, d'accord" and continues discussion 698804;1401725652;nubbins`;strange woman 698805;1401725683;fluffypony;lol 698806;1401725796;asciilifeform;nubbins`: obligatory: http://everything2.com/title/I+knew+I+couldn%2527t+build+a+cat 698807;1401725797;assbot;I knew I couldn't build a cat - Everything2.com 698808;1401725955;nubbins`;heh 698809;1401726117;nubbins`;"Today Apple makes an OS announcement --- I say we flood social media & news with questions about why they are anti-tech & anti Bitcoin" 698810;1401726122;nubbins`;palm, meet face 698811;1401726153;nubbins`;consider that as far as feature implementation goes, apple is relatively conservative 698812;1401726368;nubbins`;they'll allow bitcoin apps if/when the point is reached where idiots can use it without saying "???" 698813;1401726382;mod6;lol 698814;1401726390;mod6;oops 698815;1401726454;jurov;!up Sebastan 698816;1401726457;fluffypony;nubbins`: yeah, I think they may also want to avoid the issue they've had with kids spending thousands on in-app purchases 698817;1401726475;jurov;!up jordandotdev 698818;1401726478;fluffypony;can you imagine - someone will be like "someone broke into my phone with my pin code and stole my bitcoin, I'm going to sue apple" 698819;1401726480;jurov;!up kermit 698820;1401726498;jurov;!up ericmuyser 698821;1401726509;jurov;!up darlidada 698822;1401726524;jurov;!up diatnic 698823;1401726527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.23232937 = 1.1616 BTC [+] {3} 698824;1401726528;jurov;!up diatonic 698825;1401726596;nubbins`;yep 698826;1401726614;nubbins`;well, they sorta fixed that around the time the smurfs game came out 698827;1401726641;nubbins`;"mom, can i download?" "ok" (mom enters password) HEY KIDS BUY SOME SMURF BERRIES (no password required because mom just authed) 698828;1401726649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.02350054 = 0.517 BTC [-] {3} 698829;1401726683;nubbins`;but "apple isn't ready for bitcoin" isn't how apple sees it 698830;1401726690;nubbins`;they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple" 698831;1401726717;fluffypony;yep 698832;1401726734;fluffypony;I'm sure that at some point in the future they'll let you fund your iTunes account with Bitcoin 698833;1401726742;fluffypony;and PayPal will let you fund your PayPal account with Bitcoin 698834;1401726759;fluffypony;but atm I'm not convinced either party particularly cares about all the ranting on /r/bitcoin 698835;1401726782;nubbins`;nobody cares about that 698836;1401726802;nubbins`;"hey guise i'm the first hand-blown glass satanist dildo shop in the WORLD to accept bitcoin!" 698837;1401727003;kakobrekla;hi 698838;1401727007;kakobrekla;i broke assbot? 698839;1401727022;fluffypony;lol nubbins` 698840;1401727025;kakobrekla;possibly, i uninstalled half of the server by mistake. 698841;1401727047;fluffypony;also if I see another post that is by an American about how Africa is ready for Bitcoin I'm going to stab them in the face 698842;1401727151;nubbins`;africa unite! 698843;1401727175;nubbins`;they say that something like 90% of africans own an iphone 698844;1401727198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00087671 = 6.1808 BTC [+] 698845;1401727216;fluffypony;yes, and the other 10% own an Android device 698846;1401727226;nubbins`;yep 698847;1401727228;fluffypony;plus bandwidth is free 698848;1401727230;nubbins`;nod 698849;1401727232;fluffypony;and all 3G 698850;1401727237;fluffypony;so it's ideal for Bitcoin 698851;1401727239;nubbins`;yeah, it's not just voice + sms 698852;1401727431;fluffypony;yeah 698853;1401727443;fluffypony;plus everyone is so familiar with mobile apps that it just makes sense 698854;1401727446;fluffypony;nobody uses cash here anyway 698855;1401727449;nubbins`;nah 698856;1401727454;nubbins`;here's a man in accra, paying cab fare with btc 698857;1401727458;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/ePGlnBp 698858;1401727459;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 698859;1401727488;nubbins`;he's using his phone's voice recognition capabilities to make the transaction 698860;1401727623;punkman;http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/inside-the-shadowy-world-of-high-speed-tennis-betting/ 698861;1401727624;assbot;Inside the Shadowy World of High-Speed Tennis Betting | FiveThirtyEight 698862;1401727803;fluffypony;nubbins`: ah yes, "siri, pay the cab driver 0.005 BTC" 698863;1401727808;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00087753 = 9.7406 BTC [+] {3} 698864;1401727881;nubbins`;"certainly, daniel! shall i use the bitstamp BTC/GHS rate?" 698865;1401727897;fluffypony;HAH HAH 698866;1401727996;*;jurov is waiting for the eventual HAR HAR 698867;1401728011;fluffypony;:) 698868;1401728041;fluffypony;yay WWDC time, I'm hoping for a Macbook Pro Retina that is the size of a Macbook Air and has 20 hour battery life 698869;1401728044;fluffypony;that will make me happy 698870;1401728236;jurov;and power density of TNT 698871;1401728419;pankkake;exploding macbooks, now that's something I'd like 698872;1401728460;Apocalyptic;pankkake, to give them ad gifts ? 698873;1401728462;Apocalyptic;*as 698874;1401728482;jurov;to bitcoin fundnation 698875;1401728505;pankkake;or as a way to reduce the hipster population 698876;1401728517;fluffypony;lol 698877;1401728732;jurov;!up tris 698878;1401729116;benkay; benkay: http://www.lispcast.com/clojure-web-security // i read that quite a while ago. a few kinda boil down to 'don't be retarded'. 698879;1401729117;assbot;Clojure Web Security | LispCast 698880;1401729138;benkay;other major points are "don't allow users to see each others data!" 698881;1401729149;benkay;which i guess some people don't think about? 698882;1401729189;Mats_cd03;the frameworks don't look ready for production 698883;1401729201;benkay;dunno about frameworks man 698884;1401729204;Mats_cd03;jvm issues aside 698885;1401729206;pankkake;it doesn't seem especially related to clojure 698886;1401729211;benkay;big old .45 that always wants to point at your foot 698887;1401729249;benkay;jvm issues are unless i miss my read (which is possible and do correct me plz) along the lines of 'don't let people have access to your box and don't run java as a consumer' 698888;1401729284;xmj;speaking about frameworks 698889;1401729292;xmj;anyone here ever worked with haskell webframeworks? 698890;1401729322;kakobrekla;i hate frameworks so much i made my own. 698891;1401729330;kakobrekla;not with haskell though. 698892;1401729346;pankkake;lol, I always have a bad feeling of "own frameworks" 698893;1401729364;kakobrekla;bitbet uses it 698894;1401729377;pankkake;many companies say that, when the reality is that their code is YOLO style 698895;1401729404;benkay;YOYO 698896;1401729409;kakobrekla;yeah prolly 698897;1401729414;benkay;you only YOYO once 698898;1401729423;pankkake;I haven't tried haskell at all but it's definitively on my list of things to try out - perhaps the only one actually 698899;1401729440;benkay;i want types 698900;1401729451;benkay;is it a satoshi? is it a btc? WHO KNOWS 698901;1401729457;pankkake;many frameworks are more of a hassle to use than nothing, for sure 698902;1401729457;xmj;right after learning C. 698903;1401729468;mike_c;kakobrekla: what is bitbet written in? 698904;1401729476;Apocalyptic;PHP obv 698905;1401729478;kakobrekla;mhm 698906;1401729532;Naphex;ZF for php was more then decent 698907;1401729536;kakobrekla;anyway the fw that i made was first tested on smpake.com service and was made with btc in mind 698908;1401729556;kakobrekla;later on it was also used on bb. 698909;1401729557;mike_c;well, it was good enough for mtgox i guess. 698910;1401729601;kakobrekla;whats mpex written in? same. 698911;1401729680;Naphex;mike_c: i doubt ZF had anything to do with mtgox vulns 698912;1401729690;Naphex;but that custom php wallet software, jesus :] 698913;1401729702;kakobrekla;but right now im trying to implement some panacea models in newlisp 698914;1401729773;mike_c;Naphex: mtgox would have managed to suck in any language. i just feel bad for good programmers who somehow have ended up using php. probably the same as asciilifeform feels for all of us that don't use lisp. 698915;1401729800;Naphex;c'mon now lisp aint that cool 698916;1401729812;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19ZP4TB.txt ) 698917;1401729812;benkay;!b 1 698918;1401729821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00087967 = 11.1718 BTC [+] {2} 698919;1401729833;kakobrekla;Naphex> c'mon now lisp aint that cool < php dev said to python dev!? 698920;1401729882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0236 = 0.2124 BTC [+] {4} 698921;1401729886;mike_c;i'm starting to think it might be that cool. it's on my list to learn when i have a spare minute.. so who knows when. 698922;1401729943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0237 = 0.1422 BTC [+] 698923;1401730018;benkay;it's just that cool. 698924;1401730027;Naphex;my huge problem with lisp its readability 698925;1401730038;benkay;i wrote a function last night that runs a job, every now and again 698926;1401730056;benkay;the signature looks like (process-deposits every-ten-minutes) 698927;1401730089;jurov;and the body is (if (leap year) give bonus) 698928;1401730110;mike_c;i used to agree about the readability, but i have recently seen some elegant looking lisp programs. and i used to think python was unreadable. so who knows. 698929;1401730128;Naphex;i don't doubt they exist 698930;1401730130;kakobrekla;jurov :D 698931;1401730147;Naphex;but picturing a 8-man dev team working on a project in lisp 698932;1401730162;Naphex;for lets say 3 years, enough that every programmer there is bored shitless 698933;1401730165;asciilifeform;mike_c: lisp (of whatever variety) without emacs (or quite similar auto-indenting editor) is unthinkable. 698934;1401730183;mike_c;i have heard you say that (and filed it away for my future research) 698935;1401730203;asciilifeform;mike_c: http://common-lisp.net/project/slime 698936;1401730203;assbot;SLIME: The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs 698937;1401730207;benkay;its p true 698938;1401730260;Apocalyptic;since we're discussing functionnal languages what are you thoughts on Caml asciilifeform ? 698939;1401730277;asciilifeform;Apocalyptic: did some ocaml ages ago. not my cup of tea. 698940;1401730352;asciilifeform;mike_c: it wouldn't be too far off the mark to say that i like common lisp because 'slime' is possible for it, rather than vice-versa. 698941;1401730360;pankkake;%diff 698942;1401730363;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 482603.27 in 1781 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 169.85 698943;1401730403;mike_c;i will certainly give it a try. 698944;1401730417;asciilifeform;Naphex: the readability and 'omg 111 parentheses' problems go away when you use an adult editor. 698945;1401730434;asciilifeform;e.g, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=295 698946;1401730436;assbot;Loper OS » Parentheses-Phobia Illustrated. 698947;1401730492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00087644 = 9.5532 BTC [-] {2} 698948;1401730501;mike_c;;;calc 482603*7000000 698949;1401730501;gribble;3378221000000 698950;1401730508;Naphex;asciilifeform: its deffinetly better:D 698951;1401730527;mike_c;back to 3.4 th/s. must be pool-hoppers on atc. 698952;1401730553;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.02438999 = 2.439 BTC [-] 698953;1401730714;Naphex;anyway all languages are just tools, use what fits best with you/your team, your hardware etc 698954;1401730737;Naphex;but just for lulz, i once saw a embeddec computer for public transportation, written in php :) 698955;1401730749;Naphex;so don't do that :) 698956;1401730819;Mats_cd03;must be nice to have that contract 698957;1401730835;Naphex;if you're wondering how is that possbile, it ran a browser in full screen on the front-end 698958;1401730850;Apocalyptic;so...ugly 698959;1401730851;Naphex;and had some php scripts running as daemons over sockets to emulate IPC and threads 698960;1401730902;Naphex;and using fopen('/dev/sttys*') to read serials and sh unix scripts with stty to setup serial ports 698961;1401730905;Naphex;lol 698962;1401730912;benkay;asciilifeform: haskell? 698963;1401730953;asciilifeform;benkay: not a fan. see v. sedach's explanation: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=401 698964;1401730954;assbot;Loper OS » Of Lisp Macros and Washing Machines 698965;1401731061;asciilifeform;benkay: and this reply to a reader asking about urbit (author of urbit was labouring under the same ill-conceived notions that produced haskell) - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 698966;1401731063;assbot;Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits. 698967;1401731072;diametric;asciilifeform: I've been meaning to ask you on your opinion of Go 698968;1401731121;asciilifeform;diametric: every so often, folks invent another 'ocaml' - compiled language with 'strong typing.' you lose the REPL - you lose me. 698969;1401731151;diametric;the people backing it are what have me intrigued 698970;1401731163;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00087976 = 5.0146 BTC [+] {2} 698971;1401731178;asciilifeform;'go' is funded by the same bozos who spend $billion on a company making GUI thermostats. 698972;1401731208;diametric;asciilifeform: it's also the brain child of Ken Thompson and Rob Pike 698973;1401731227;diametric;and go does have a repl 698974;1401731228;asciilifeform;yeah, the folks responsible for 35 years of static language well past sell by date 698975;1401731264;asciilifeform;it is important to understand what a proper repl consists of. i.e. a bash loop that repeatedly calls a compiler is not a genuine repl. 698976;1401731300;asciilifeform;you ought to be able to do 'who-calls' and other useful operations that need the machine to retain semantics of the original code 698977;1401731613;asciilifeform;people who design baroque contraptions (ml, haskell, ocaml, go - tradition) for 'smarter compiler' - that ends up grinding the original semantics of a program into incomprehensible soup - as if god came and said to mortals to use pdp-11 forever - are solving the wrong problem. 698978;1401731662;asciilifeform;it is possible - and has been done - to build cpu which executes high-level language more or less directly. but, given as i have an entire blog about this, i will omit the details here. 698979;1401731682;mod6;asciilifeform uses only opcodez 698980;1401731712;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00087982 = 11.5256 BTC [+] 698981;1401731751;asciilifeform;even on a very minimal machine, with a few kb of memory, it is possible to use a language like Forth - which preserves the semantics of the code, and has genuine repl. 698982;1401731797;asciilifeform;the distinction between source and object code is an evil thing, rather like leaded gasoline - ought to have gone away a generation ago. 698983;1401731875;asciilifeform;for anyone still following the conversation, see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=256 698984;1401731877;assbot;Loper OS » Fourth Law of Sane Personal Computing 698985;1401732017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00087972 = 15.3511 BTC [-] 698986;1401732115;asciilifeform;obligatory: 698987;1401732116;asciilifeform;http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Oh-Fuck.png 698988;1401732134;asciilifeform;^ typical reaction of programmers when i try to explain all of this. 698989;1401732167;kakobrekla;:D 698990;1401732218;benkay;"but you can't possibly fix five decades of institutional lock-in!" 698991;1401732288;asciilifeform;i often ask people to read about edison's dc current idiocy, and contemplate what would have happened if he had 'won' 698992;1401732317;asciilifeform;(e.g. power station on every street corner, wall wiring as thick as your arm, etc) 698993;1401732328;asciilifeform;this was a very narrow escape. 698994;1401732389;benkay;capital requirements got in the way. 698995;1401732398;asciilifeform;situation was entirely analogous to the current one re: computing - in that the inferior technical solution would have been embraced readily by equipment makers, for whom the waste is a bonanza 698996;1401732432;asciilifeform;if westinghouse did not have similar strength and motivation to demolish the crap - we'd have been stuck with it. 698997;1401732633;asciilifeform;obligatory: 698998;1401732634;asciilifeform;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum.no.html 698999;1401732635;assbot;Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive 699000;1401732646;jurov;westinghouse had the presence of mind to compete on price, too 699001;1401732652;jurov;symbolics did not 699002;1401732688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10149192 BTC [+] 699003;1401732697;jurov;again, what if we had gorillas.cl instead of gorillas.bas ? 699004;1401732697;asciilifeform;jurov: smbx had perverse incentives (usg funding that appeared bottomless - until it died suddenly. reagan's 'star wars.') 699005;1401732705;asciilifeform;'I remember someone saying that if it hadn't been for automatic switches in the telephone network, the entire population of planet earth would have had to be telephone operators to handle the load of telephone usage in 1993 or thereabout. I get the eerie feeling that because modern computer systems are so incredibly braindamaged in their design and in the tools used to program them, the entire population of pla 699006;1401732705;asciilifeform;net earth will be programming these idiotic boxes pretty soon if managers don't wise up to the fact that the equivalent of automatic switches already exist and have done so for at least 20 years.' 699007;1401732712;jurov;that did not happen because lispers had perverse incentives 699008;1401732749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.03000838 = 3.0008 BTC [+] {7} 699009;1401732750;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10947 @ 0.00087992 = 9.6325 BTC [+] {2} 699010;1401732761;jurov;and todays' kids learn computing on rpi and python, because whole setup is beneath lispers 699011;1401732826;jurov;why can't you just change rpi into lisp machine instead of all that complaining? 699012;1401732829;asciilifeform;jurov: python, ruby, etc. are, arguably, cheap 'soviet style' copies of common lisp. as admitted by, for example, matsumoto (author of ruby) 699013;1401732832;kakobrekla;kinda same story with thinking machines, darpa funding there. 699014;1401732851;asciilifeform;jurov: can you change a trabant into a toyota? 699015;1401732871;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.03072497 = 3.0725 BTC [+] {7} 699016;1401732874;benkay;jurov: my plan is to give 'em emacs on a barebones bsd machine with an irc connection to chat with me 699017;1401732885;asciilifeform;jurov: you need entirely new silicon (type-aware cpu, hardware garbage collector, etc) 699018;1401732895;jurov;that's the attitude i'm taking about 699019;1401732907;jurov;give kids the toys and they will make it into silicone later 699020;1401732912;jurov;not the other way round 699021;1401732928;asciilifeform;jurov: we've been witnessing the failure of this approach for two decades now. 699022;1401732949;asciilifeform;here's an essay describing my hypothesis regarding why: 699023;1401732950;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55 699024;1401732951;assbot;Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it. 699025;1401732956;jurov;i'm only withessing te failure of your approach so far 699026;1401732978;jurov;kids first learn Basic, Pascal, and C 699027;1401732985;asciilifeform;jurov: gotta distinguish market failure from technological failure. 699028;1401732993;jurov;then naturally live with it whole life 699029;1401733015;jurov;because no one is doing affordable and attractive lisp machines 699030;1401733030;jurov;how is it different? 699031;1401733039;asciilifeform;jurov: see the dc current historical example. 699032;1401733056;jurov;you did not say anything to my price argument 699033;1401733069;jurov;that ac power generation could be done cheaper 699034;1401733072;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 699035;1401733073;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 631.57, Best ask: 632.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 632.0, 24 hour volume: 20574.38657010, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 637.537278288 699036;1401733081;jurov;lisp machines to date, were not done so. 699037;1401733108;jurov;because you "oh noes trabant" attitude 699038;1401733123;asciilifeform;jurov: my half-baked fpga prototype cost me about 500 usd. but picture, in my shoes, proposing that it be manufactured en masse, to an industrial magnate. 699039;1401733137;asciilifeform;'who wants to buy this and why' 699040;1401733172;jurov;we have things like kickstarter now, no need to go through incumbents 699041;1401733176;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9031 @ 0.00088055 = 7.9522 BTC [+] 699042;1401733205;kakobrekla;those people invest in solar freaking roadways not lisp 699043;1401733217;asciilifeform;i've had this discussion with more people than i can count. and the only ones who 'grokked' the basic idea, were the ones who woke up to the realization that much of what we consider to be the 'inevitable' brokenness of computing infrastructure (ubiquitous bugs, e.g. buffer overflows, irreducible complexity of os, compilers) is anything but. 699044;1401733302;mircea_popescu;mike_c: like hunter s. thompson needs fucking BI to improve his writing. << where would hts be w/o bi!!1 699045;1401733306;asciilifeform;re: kickstarter: lol. suggested experiment: open a kickstart, with the headline 'pay my living expense for 20 years. in the end, you might get a useful gizmo if i live that long.' 699046;1401733318;jurov;yes it is inevitable if people who know better won't do anything for kids because they want 100% architectural purity without compromises 699047;1401733319;mike_c;srsly. he'd be unreadable without their editing 699048;1401733338;mircea_popescu;i hope they make an up to date version 699049;1401733341;diametric;asciilifeform: surprisingly the last 6 kickstarters i've done have all delivered 699050;1401733349;diametric;though i tend to vet them 699051;1401733350;mircea_popescu;i think he might have said nigger or something unsavoury like that at some point 699052;1401733389;asciilifeform;kickstarter works - when it works - for 'i want to make a bicycle drive shaft from hastalloy.' and other well-defined engineering problems. 699053;1401733401;jurov;what prevented OLPC to ship with lisp? "o noes trabant" 699054;1401733402;asciilifeform;for 'basic research' - not so much. 699055;1401733438;asciilifeform;jurov: olpc was a microshaft brainwashing project (admitted as much! hence why it shipped with an x86 turd instead of a cheaper risc cpu) 699056;1401733450;mircea_popescu;pankkake: is it down in USD terms? << for "2nd ipo" definitely. seems just about even for original ipo tho 699057;1401733465;asciilifeform;get the african kids started on winblows. 699058;1401733490;jurov;so you admit microsoft can do it, yet you cannot 699059;1401733501;asciilifeform;jurov: microshaft can do many things that i cannot. 699060;1401733526;asciilifeform;'The Ogre does what ogres can, Deeds quite impossible for Man,...' 699061;1401733528;mircea_popescu;mike_c: pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227 << o wow srsly ? for some reason i had it in my head they started at a 25cents 699062;1401733616;mike_c;those were actually off by a factor of 10, but they all were so it doesn't really matter. 699063;1401733650;mike_c;ipo = 0.0055 BTC * 600 = $3.30 699064;1401733677;mike_c;now, 0.0036 * 630 = $2.27 per share 699065;1401733697;mircea_popescu;i see. thanks for that! 699066;1401733714;jurov;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child#Open_source_vs._dual-boot_systems apprently it did not go very well for microsoft 699067;1401733714;assbot;One Laptop per Child - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 699068;1401733728;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple" << they're right, too. i don't have a mpoe-pr large enough to swat all the fucktarded us consumers thinking they'r eentitled to shit because their govt paid me taxes or something 699069;1401733770;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: where's that piece of yours re: 'offensively stoopid poor' and 'cattle management technology' ? 699070;1401733786;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00088055 = 12.5038 BTC [+] {2} 699071;1401733790;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: "hey guise i'm the first hand-blown glass satanist dildo shop in the WORLD to accept bitcoin!" << when's the ipo! 699072;1401733797;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, ok lemme see here 699073;1401733806;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema offensively stupid poor cattle 699074;1401733807;gribble;Strategic superiority, a saga pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Dear Guardian : stop being retarded. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; That gay ass site, BitBet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 699077;1401733834;asciilifeform;must be the first link. 699078;1401733838;mircea_popescu;Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or what 699079;1401733838;mircea_popescu;ever theyre called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, theyve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to obstruct vision, living arrangements all thought through and everything. 699080;1401733838;mircea_popescu;Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a str 699081;1401733845;mircea_popescu;ategic mistake. 699082;1401733845;asciilifeform;ty! 699083;1401733847;mircea_popescu;there we go. 699084;1401733886;jurov;seems i'm arguing completely different point than ascii :( 699085;1401733894;mircea_popescu;it seems so to me too. 699086;1401733908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00088066 = 13.2539 BTC [+] {2} 699087;1401733932;asciilifeform;jurov: the way i understand it, you see 'architectural purity' as an optional frill, like the 'non-conflict zone minerals' folks, or enviro-whiners. i do not. 699088;1401733982;asciilifeform;i've long ago given up on convincing any serious number of people of this point through rhetoric - it'll have to be by physical demonstration. but first i gotta live long enough. 699089;1401734063;diametric;asciilifeform: that sounds strikingly similar to something our mutual friend once said, in his attempt to correctly implement something resulted in that something never accomplishing anything. 699090;1401734090;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: anyway the fw that i made was first tested on smpake.com service and was made with btc in mind << "built from the ground up with security in mind" 699091;1401734091;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31903 @ 0.00087925 = 28.0507 BTC [-] {3} 699092;1401734094;diametric;you can have all the architecturally pure things in the world, but they don't amount to shit if they don't actually manage to accomplish work. 699093;1401734108;mircea_popescu;i can see that angle. 699094;1401734142;jurov;i have quite a few friends that got into programming in their teens and have done impressive demos 699095;1401734146;asciilifeform;diametric: this is sort of why i bring up my long-term research only when asked about it. and at other times, work with whatever materials are available in the jungle i inhabit, in a way that mostly makes sense to people. 699096;1401734151;jurov;only to give up in disgust few years later 699097;1401734171;thestringpuller;;;seen nubbins` 699098;1401734171;gribble;nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: "certainly, daniel! shall i use the bitstamp BTC/GHS rate?" 699099;1401734172;jurov;now they use windows and excel. that's where i come from 699100;1401734185;thestringpuller;;;later tell nubbins` hey send me pm at some point 699101;1401734185;gribble;The operation succeeded. 699102;1401734193;jurov;because there was no popular MS-DOS game with embedded lisp interpreter 699103;1401734199;jurov;because "oh noes trabant" 699104;1401734209;asciilifeform;jurov: 'abuse' (fairly well known game) 699105;1401734243;jurov;was the interpreter accessible? 699106;1401734250;asciilifeform;only recently we ended up with x86 boxes fast enough to disregard the performance hit from high-level languages on a cpu without hardware type-tagging 699107;1401734261;asciilifeform;now you have games (and even virii!) with built-in 'lua' 699108;1401734300;kakobrekla;re fw, one of the ways to make it easy one yourself is to keep it as small as possible. 699109;1401734402;asciilifeform;obligatory: 699110;1401734403;asciilifeform;http://herpolhode.com/rob/utah2000.pdf 699111;1401734416;asciilifeform;(rob pike, on why systems research is dead) 699112;1401734442;asciilifeform;'To be a viable computer system, one must honor a huge list of 699113;1401734442;asciilifeform;large, and often changing, standards: TCP/IP, HTTP, HTML, 699114;1401734443;asciilifeform;XML, CORBA, Unicode, POSIX, NFS, SMB, MIME, POP, 699115;1401734443;asciilifeform;IMAP, X, ... A huge amount of work, but if you dont honor the standards 699116;1401734443;asciilifeform;youre marginalized.' 699117;1401734479;asciilifeform;(summary of some of the obstacles in the way of any serious attempt to ditch legacy crud while remaining even a little bit commercially viable) 699118;1401734527;jurov;you keep stuffing into my mouth what i'm not saying 699119;1401734543;jurov;i'm only saying, show them the light while they want to experiment 699120;1401734555;jurov;if that entails using rpi, so be it 699121;1401734571;jurov;adults should do adult things, of course 699122;1401734626;asciilifeform;i did get a number of people playing with fpga (the closest thing to 'freedom' in this context, that i know of) who perhaps wouldn't have otherwise. 699123;1401734679;thestringpuller;+asciilifeform> now you have games (and even virii!) with built-in 'lua' << The engine that came from Jak and Daxter is built in LISP for entity relationships. 699124;1401734713;thestringpuller;A good deal of Uncharted is written in LISP. 699125;1401734820;benkay;forth chips! 699126;1401734847;fluffypony;ok so 699127;1401734854;fluffypony;Apple is releasing a new programming language 699128;1401734857;fluffypony;called Swift 699129;1401734873;fluffypony;closures, generics, namespaces, the usual 699130;1401734889;artifexd;Are you trolling, fluffypony? 699131;1401734928;fluffypony;artifexd: no serious - they start it off with "we thought about how we could have Objective C but without the problems of C" 699132;1401734929;fluffypony;or something 699133;1401734971;artifexd;Is it cross platform? 699134;1401734978;asciilifeform;lol 699135;1401734980;Apocalyptic; ooohh 699136;1401734980;Apocalyptic; new language 699137;1401734980;Apocalyptic; i like this 699138;1401734980;Apocalyptic; swift 699139;1401734981;fluffypony;lol 699140;1401734987;Apocalyptic;probably not trolling 699141;1401735029;artifexd;Wow. Just... wow. 699142;1401735043;fluffypony;they had to do it at some stage, they were getting jealous of .NET 699143;1401735058;fluffypony;also they compared performance vs. python and objective-C 699144;1401735067;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 897 @ 0.0008788 = 0.7883 BTC [-] 699145;1401735070;fluffypony;"python is slow, objective-C is faster...but Swift is FASTEST!" 699146;1401735078;Naphex;and java is the best ;] 699147;1401735079;Naphex;:)) 699148;1401735091;asciilifeform;we're more or less doomed to an eternal proliferation of proprietary piss-ant languages. so colour me unsurprised. 699149;1401735128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.0246889 = 0.2963 BTC [+] 699150;1401735161;benkay;"jealous of .NET" 699151;1401735162;benkay;oh god 699152;1401735168;benkay;i'm laugh-crying 699153;1401735219;asciilifeform;from apple's point of view - it isn't quite enough to have an effective vendor lock-in through obj. c and the mac api - it is necessary to breed programmers who can't even -think- on a competing platform. 699154;1401735236;kakobrekla;so whats the story with this seaforth 699155;1401735238;artifexd;I'll buy that. 699156;1401735266;artifexd;Rephrase: asciilifeform, I accept your statement as an acceptable representation of reality. 699157;1401735305;asciilifeform;artifexd: if headline is genuine, the only real surprise is that apple had not attempted this earlier. 699158;1401735319;fluffypony;asciilifeform: I think they thought they could bend objective-C to become that 699159;1401735364;asciilifeform;fluffypony: one hint, in the past, was that apple clearly indicated a desire to see 'gcc' die in a fire 699160;1401735477;Naphex;asciilifeform: what would be your default language for writing a multi-threaded backend, with lots of sockets and nio? 699161;1401735500;asciilifeform;Naphex: given empty space? 699162;1401735510;asciilifeform;and, back-end for what? 699163;1401735541;Naphex;asciilifeform: hmm, lets say data aquisition. grabbing gps data from vehicles 699164;1401735546;fluffypony;no new Macbooks 699165;1401735550;*;fluffypony sulks 699166;1401735565;Naphex;and managing them so some control commands in there 699167;1401735593;asciilifeform;Naphex: assuming an actual choice of instruments (rather major assumption) - sbcl. 699168;1401735640;fluffypony;lol 699169;1401735645;fluffypony;Twitter's having a field day: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpJXGeiIMAAP7If.jpg 699170;1401735663;asciilifeform;Naphex: that's what i did last time i had an entirely unconstrained design (a lab automation system, controlling robot & various scientific instruments attached to it) 699171;1401735699;fluffypony;https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/473537201125736448 699172;1401735701;assbot;Recruiters: Now looking for engineers with 5 years of Swift experience! 699173;1401735727;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/category/3-ani-experienta 699174;1401735728;assbot;3 ani experienta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 699175;1401735831;fluffypony;one nice thing that came out of are the iCloud Drive prices - 200gb for $4/month 699176;1401735838;asciilifeform;Naphex: i discussed this adventure in the not too distant past: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2014&bots=true#589971 699177;1401735839;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 699178;1401735842;fluffypony;so now I know where all my pics are getting backed up to 699179;1401735860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0246889 = 0.1234 BTC [+] 699180;1401735914;fluffypony;I'm going to tell Usagi he should start using iCloud Drive for backup 699181;1401736142;jurov;"1-click wallet backup" 699182;1401736146;fluffypony;heh heh 699183;1401736153;fluffypony;UsagiBackup 699184;1401736170;fluffypony;1-click backup to Dropbox, LiveDrive, iCloud Drive, and email 699185;1401736277;kakobrekla;if one he had done that. 699186;1401736281;kakobrekla;if only 699187;1401736295;lobbes;http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2014/06/02/secretary-state-halts-springfield-bitcoin-business/9871263/ 699188;1401736297;assbot;Secretary of State halts Springfield man's Bitcoin operations 699189;1401736310;lobbes;finally 699190;1401736403;fluffypony;omg no way 699191;1401736409;fluffypony;pwned 699192;1401736421;jurov;"I encourage Missourians to call my office before making any Bitcoin investments" ohmy 699193;1401736503;kakobrekla;i dont even get what going on with that 699194;1401736513;kakobrekla;active mining or what was it? 699195;1401736529;jurov;i move for moiety to call them, ask about mpex and report for lulz 699196;1401736534;jurov;anyone with me? 699197;1401736584;benkay;do it 699198;1401736593;benkay;where is the manul lady 699199;1401736598;benkay;;;seen moiety 699200;1401736598;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: how is everyone here? 699201;1401736645;fluffypony;"Reached by phone Monday afternoon, Slaughter was unaware of Kander's news release but said it must have been part of a settlement his lawyers were working on with the office. He said he also expects to have to pay a fine." 699202;1401736741;kakobrekla;who is who here anyway? 699203;1401736762;jurov;kander is the state secretary 699204;1401736769;fluffypony;Kander is the secretary of state 699205;1401736797;kakobrekla;a. 699206;1401736924;fluffypony;https://developer.apple.com/swift/ 699207;1401736925;assbot;Swift - Apple Developer 699208;1401736958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24300324 BTC [+] 699209;1401736959;fluffypony;"Swift takes the best features from the C and Objective-C languages. It includes low-level primitives such as types, flow control, and operators. It also provides object-oriented features such as classes, protocols, and generics" 699210;1401736974;fluffypony;so it's .NET for Apple 699211;1401736977;fluffypony;:-P 699212;1401737013;benkay;python for apple 699213;1401737017;fluffypony;heh 699214;1401737041;benkay;immutable data structures eh 699215;1401737046;benkay;https://twitter.com/awiltsch/status/473543331394650113 699216;1401737047;assbot;Swift does unicode: http://t.co/0EiCec6cx4 699217;1401737095;fluffypony;heh - Usagi getting smacked down: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet.321036/page-2#post-6786418 699218;1401737096;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet | Page 2 | Bitcointa.lk 699219;1401737109;fluffypony;"You made a thread here and what did you expect ? people would congradulate you for doing everything wrong ? keep reading your "how to make a web wallet book" you pathetic tool." 699220;1401737361;kakobrekla;wait whut such book exists ?? 699221;1401737384;benkay;do any of you have a fax number at which i could receive some faxes maybe but probably not? 699222;1401737395;fluffypony;benkay: I have a fax to email number 699223;1401737398;fluffypony;but it's South Africa 699224;1401737411;kakobrekla;lol scammer! 699225;1401737512;fluffypony;kakobrekla: shhhh, you're ruining my identity theft scamring 699226;1401737995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 486 @ 0.0008815 = 0.4284 BTC [+] 699227;1401738014;benkay;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/06/02/female-named-hurricanes-kill-more-than-male-because-people-dont-respect-them-study-finds/ 699228;1401738015;assbot;Female-named hurricanes kill more than male hurricanes because people don’t respect them, study finds 699229;1401738178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00087868 = 15.948 BTC [-] {2} 699230;1401738484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16271 @ 0.00087617 = 14.2562 BTC [-] {2} 699231;1401738962;princessnell;a microaggression with macro consequences 699232;1401738977;princessnell;or: proof that god is a vengeful woman 699233;1401739020;jurov;oo fellow discordian 699234;1401739168;BingoBoingo;/me is suspicous to committing to #bitcoin-assets on Freenode on the shirt, because it is hard to know when the situaton will reverse... 699235;1401739212;jurov;the shirt won't last so long 699236;1401739218;bitstein;#yesallhurricanes 699237;1401739337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8553 @ 0.00087474 = 7.4817 BTC [-] 699238;1401739375;BingoBoingo;benkay: Are they supposing I want to fuck a hurricaine? 699239;1401739375;pankkake;http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2014/06/02/secretary-state-halts-springfield-bitcoin-business/9871263/ 699240;1401739377;assbot;Secretary of State halts Springfield man's Bitcoin operations 699241;1401739442;BingoBoingo;pankkake: That merely shows how incredibly friendly Missouri is to actual Bitcoin businesses. 699242;1401739513;pankkake;yes, the response is quite sensible, and seems to be about "deceptive tactics" 699243;1401739524;pankkake;you guys should reddit that 699244;1401739853;jurov;pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/274r6w/missouri_secretary_of_state_halts_active_minings/?already_submitted=true 699245;1401739853;assbot;Missouri Secretary of State halts Active Mining's Bitcoin operations : Bitcoin 699246;1401739883;jurov;and i wanted it to submit as "Active Mining Deactivated" but... 699247;1401739954;BingoBoingo;Active Mining actually Lethrgic 699248;1401739999;jurov;bash flushed 699249;1401740036;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/274r6w/missouri_secretary_of_state_halts_active_minings/chxg6x6 699250;1401740037;assbot;Atruk comments on Missouri Secretary of State halts Active Mining's Bitcoin operations 699251;1401740259;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/meet-cupid-the-heartbleed-attack-spawns-evil-wi-fi-networks/ 699252;1401740259;assbot;Meet Cupid, the Heartbleed attack that spawns evil Wi-Fi networks | Ars Technica 699253;1401740618;BingoBoingo;Damn, Apple announced iOs 8 699254;1401740648;Apocalyptic;if only they 'd stick to that 699255;1401741015;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: I have to imagine some of your neighbors are probably stockpiling BTC to fund a reconquest of Rhodesia 699256;1401741037;fluffypony;hah hah 699257;1401741045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07823999 = 1.1736 BTC [+] {2} 699258;1401741047;fluffypony;my mom was born in Rhodesia when it was still called Rhodesia 699259;1401741214;BingoBoingo;Naphex: What is so illegible about math? 699260;1401741273;BingoBoingo;%book 699261;1401741276;atcbot;3k@218 0k@200 7k@200 | 100k@141 250k@140 6k@135 699262;1401741472;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00087428 = 1.836 BTC [-] 699263;1401741594;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00087428 = 6.5134 BTC [-] 699264;1401741777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0243 = 0.243 BTC [-] 699265;1401742143;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 537 @ 0.00216811 = 1.1643 BTC [+] {2} 699266;1401742387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02468408 = 0.2468 BTC [-] {4} 699267;1401742570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8935 @ 0.00087753 = 7.8407 BTC [+] {2} 699268;1401742687;mircea_popescu;Naphex: and using fopen('/dev/sttys*') to read serials and sh unix scripts with stty to setup serial ports << pretty lucrative maintenance contract i bet 699269;1401742777;Naphex;mircea_popescu: yep, 250k/year 699270;1401742780;kakobrekla;mike_c when you need electronic mix next time; http://radiostudent.si/glasba/x-machina/sempre-sempre 699271;1401742781;assbot;Sempre sempre | Radio tudent 699272;1401742848;mircea_popescu;sounds about right. 699273;1401742938;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, one cannot transition from the informal to the formal by formal means. << what's the long story of that ? 699274;1401742952;mike_c;kakobrekla: i'll try it now, thanks. plus bonus swimsuit pic :) 699275;1401742965;kakobrekla;o yea, bush included! 699276;1401742999;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the proverb was attributed to mathematician alan perlis. i wasn't there when he uttered it. here's the context where i last mentioned it: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 699277;1401743001;assbot;Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits. 699278;1401743013;mircea_popescu;aite 699279;1401743163;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 699280;1401743165;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, funny, because speaking of jets, random person i ran into today had actually heard of bitcoin, AND of urbit 699281;1401743170;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 663.5, vol: 17323.55731786 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 644.4, vol: 12553.89502 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 662.81, vol: 15993.55399357 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 660.0, vol: 77.21816246 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 643.770105, vol: 5415.03470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 652.0, vol: 8.90331435 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 645.905, vol: 113.3678485 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 699282;1401743176;BingoBoingo;;;more 699283;1401743176;gribble;656.507348479 699284;1401743181;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.02350333 = 0.2115 BTC [-] {2} 699285;1401743184;mircea_popescu;and his comment was "o, those jets thing were the funniest part. "yadda yadda yadda i'm very tired today" 699286;1401743188;mircea_popescu;which is a seinfeld reference. 699287;1401743192;mircea_popescu;this is how one makes friends. 699288;1401743241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02345011 = 0.1173 BTC [-] 699289;1401743245;nubbins`;with cia operatives 699290;1401743302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0246889 = 0.321 BTC [+] 699291;1401743329;assbot;Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/194PXQ2.txt ) 699292;1401743329;pankkake;!b 8 699293;1401743459;mircea_popescu;nubbins`, why so conspiraci minded! 699294;1401743503;nubbins`;it's because of my countless dark secrets ;( 699295;1401743550;BingoBoingo;Saw interesting creature on the road today. Alligator snapping turtle of roughly a meter in shell circumfrence. 699296;1401743584;nubbins`;round up some teenagers and a machete and you've got yourself a movie 699297;1401743592;BingoBoingo;Poor local yokel was trying to coax it off the road with sticks. 699298;1401743598;mircea_popescu;i read that first as "dick secrets" 699299;1401743606;mircea_popescu;and started thinking maybe the surgery's for real. 699300;1401743610;nubbins`;because of my countless dick secrets 699301;1401743614;nubbins`;they must never know! 699302;1401743675;nubbins`;;;seen thestringpuller 699303;1401743675;gribble;thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: A good deal of Uncharted is written in LISP. 699304;1401743732;BingoBoingo;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_snapping_turtle 699305;1401743732;assbot;Alligator snapping turtle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 699306;1401743750;nubbins`;hm, is "OS X 10.10" pronounced "oh-ess ten ten point ten"? 699307;1401743753;nubbins`;that's awkward 699308;1401743761;mircea_popescu;osex ten-ten 699309;1401743773;mircea_popescu;could be an azn pop boyband 699310;1401743853;fluffypony;you just call it Yosemite 699311;1401743858;fluffypony;and everyone must know you're talking about an OS 699312;1401743863;fluffypony;and not a mountain or whatever the fuck it is 699313;1401743889;mircea_popescu;!up Chris_Sabian 699314;1401743895;nubbins`;fluffypony, it worked for Mavericks 699315;1401743897;nubbins`;oh, wait 699316;1401743901;mircea_popescu;lol 699317;1401743950;fluffypony;oh well 699318;1401743952;fluffypony;could be worse 699319;1401743956;fluffypony;could be like Ubuntu 699320;1401743969;fluffypony;Ubuntu 17.04 Sexy Scarecrow 699321;1401743972;nubbins`;18.2 Dirty Dripper 699322;1401743987;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: random person i ran into today had actually heard of bitcoin, AND of urbit << random, as in, on the streets of ar ? 699323;1401743996;nubbins`;19.06 Bellicose Bell-end 699324;1401744029;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, no, as in, without having made a specific appointment to discuss bitcoin and urbit 699325;1401744038;asciilifeform;aha 699326;1401744047;nubbins`;well, nevermind, then 699327;1401744169;mircea_popescu;nubbins`, "well, nevermind then" is perhaps the best name so far 699328;1401744177;mircea_popescu;is what i've known osx as since about 3.0 699329;1401744195;nubbins`;heh 699330;1401744211;nubbins`;OSX 10.10 Nevermind 699331;1401744228;nubbins`;but everything is 2d again! 699332;1401744231;fluffypony;lol 699333;1401744251;fluffypony;Ubuntu 20.44 Not Nirvana 699334;1401744271;nubbins`;brb food 699335;1401744295;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: since mr. m started sailing under the flag of the sv/vc circus, the thing's been well-hyped and spammed to virtually every forum where technowankers while away their days. 699336;1401744515;Chris_Sabian;what does "-assbot- You have been voiced for 30 minutes by mircea_popescu" mean? 699337;1401744526;mircea_popescu;that you can now talk. 699338;1401744529;mircea_popescu;\for half an hour. 699339;1401744545;Chris_Sabian;ok then 699340;1401744546;BingoBoingo;moiety: You catch that link about the local fauna, definitely would trade for Manuls 699341;1401744595;mircea_popescu;so from the "let's encourage people to fly" department : 699342;1401744597;mircea_popescu;Braniff Airways Flight 542, a Lockheed L-188 Electra, registration N9705C, was a scheduled domestic flight from Houston, Texas, bound for New York with scheduled stops in Dallas and Washington, D.C.. On September 29, 1959, 23 minutes into the 41-minute flight from Houston to Dallas Love Field, the aircraft disintegrated in mid-air approximately 3.8 miles (6.1 km) southeast of Buffalo, Texas killing everyone on board. 699343;1401744619;mircea_popescu;However, even though it was determined that the wing was destroyed by "cycles of reverse bending" or "flutter", the investigation failed to determine how the flutter was caused, and the investigation stalled. 699344;1401744637;mircea_popescu;The breakthrough into unlocking the cause of the accident came after the crash of Northwest Airlines Flight 710 on March 17, 1960. The two aircraft, both Electras, disintegrated in mid-air after losing their wings in similar fashion, both resulting in the deaths of all occupants on board. 699345;1401744649;mircea_popescu;that's it. thank your for flying vibrator airlines. 699346;1401744696;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: That's why bomb screening focus more on finding dildos than explosives 699347;1401744708;asciilifeform;see also the famous tacoma narrows bridge. 699348;1401744779;BingoBoingo;%book 699349;1401744781;atcbot;40k@205 0k@200 7k@200 | 90k@143 100k@141 250k@140 699350;1401744785;asciilifeform;;;google galloping gertie 699351;1401744785;gribble;Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse "Gallopin' Gertie" - YouTube: ; Galloping Gertie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Tacoma Narrows Bridge ("Galloping Gertie") - Wikipedia: 699352;1401744814;Chris_Sabian;so what are everyone thoughts on AM and Friedcat? 699353;1401744845;BingoBoingo;Chris_Sabian: Burning the last of the venture 699354;1401744896;BingoBoingo;Best case when AM1 falls to or Below IPO, maybe friedcat buys everyone out a la Erik and takes it private. 699355;1401744917;mircea_popescu;prolly the plan. 699356;1401744994;mike_c;what was am ipo price? 699357;1401745002;BingoBoingo;0.1BTC/Share 699358;1401745003;Chris_Sabian;0.1 699359;1401745029;Chris_Sabian;there is so much misinformation and rumors it is hard to know what is going on 699360;1401745052;Chris_Sabian;the forum is full of trolls and bagholders 699361;1401745084;BingoBoingo;I dunno anything for sure, just supposed the best way this ends. 699362;1401745315;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0230023 = 0.161 BTC [-] 699363;1401745437;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.024689 = 0.2222 BTC [+] 699364;1401745475;jurov;nubbins`: you think there are cia operatives in chan? 699365;1401745483;jurov;somehow never considered it 699366;1401745559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 900 @ 0.00048 = 0.432 BTC [-] 699367;1401745578;nubbins`;not sure why ya wouldn't 699368;1401745592;nubbins`;seems like a gross omission on their point otherwise 699369;1401745601;nubbins`;on their part, even 699370;1401745606;mike_c;especially with all you foreigners in here. 699371;1401745629;jurov;mike_c no you are foreigner xD 699372;1401745656;mircea_popescu;jurov, that was a fact a month or so ago. meanwhile, prolly lost interest, limiting themselves to one intern "checking the weblogs" 699373;1401745660;mircea_popescu;when not busy toking 699374;1401745681;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 826 @ 0.00021536 = 0.1779 BTC [-] 699375;1401745716;jurov;that's very lucky intern 699376;1401745883;FabianB;!jd mpif 699377;1401745884;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 166.98309966 BTC; -0.01864958 BTC (-0.0112%) since last check 11h 29m 41s ago. 699378;1401746002;jurov;;;seen ThickAsThieves 699379;1401746002;gribble;ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 58 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: lol 699380;1401746228;kakobrekla;FabianB you just realized a loss 699381;1401746233;kakobrekla;meta-just-dice! 699382;1401746264;mike_c;couple bit cents down the drain. 699383;1401746270;FabianB;lol 699384;1401746331;FabianB;increases probability for being a gain next check 699385;1401746365;mike_c;mpif question: are those 900k+ shares on the order book new shares? 699386;1401746381;FabianB;no 699387;1401746394;mike_c;hmm, how would you know ;) 699388;1401746401;mike_c;seller identified. 699389;1401746414;FabianB;i think it's the rest of the second 1 mio 699390;1401746457;kakobrekla;yeah about half was left out in the book 699391;1401746517;kakobrekla;apple: Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions 699392;1401746901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02830333 = 0.3396 BTC [-] {2} 699393;1401747040;nubbins`;kakobrekla inorite 699394;1401747055;nubbins`;we were speaking of this earlier today, and then the next thing ya know 699395;1401747085;kakobrekla;we were? 699396;1401747105;nubbins`;the general "we" 699397;1401747123;*;kakobrekla can be heard editing the logs 699398;1401747181;*;jurov demands logs storage into blockchain 699399;1401747213;nubbins`;i demand the reverse 699400;1401747316;jurov;what, to use blockchain to generate conversation? 699401;1401747324;jurov;leave that up to vexual 699402;1401747328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00087424 = 13.7256 BTC [-] {3} 699403;1401747389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02300199 = 0.115 BTC [-] {5} 699404;1401747541;dub;surely it only affects a handfull of aspies and retards doe 699405;1401748170;jurov;;;ticker 699406;1401748171;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 670.0, Best ask: 672.92, Bid-ask spread: 2.92000, Last trade: 670.0, 24 hour volume: 18962.87071715, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 677.77, 24 hour vwap: 642.840145677 699407;1401748395;mike_c;wtf 699408;1401748405;mike_c;back to the moon i guess 699409;1401748617;mike_c;when did bitfinex get so fking big? are they blowing smoke up their own ass? 699410;1401748642;mircea_popescu;bitfinex always claimed to be big 699411;1401748646;mircea_popescu;it wasn't ever, but hey. 699412;1401748719;mike_c;"The Bitfinex trading platform is currently in a beta phase (testing phase). The platform is owned and operated by iFinex Inc. (Bvi), and during this final phase the platform is being prepared to operate under a fully licensed model." 699413;1401748735;mike_c;well, where do i send my money! 699414;1401748792;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12537 @ 0.00087411 = 10.9587 BTC [-] 699415;1401748796;mircea_popescu;you could send it to the bitcoinica relief fund. 699416;1401748797;kakobrekla;i think its cause they do leverage and report those numbers ? 699417;1401748811;mircea_popescu;you recall, these are those derps. 699418;1401748852;mike_c;i am recalling. soon gox2 will arise with their stolen code and they can compete on even footing. 699419;1401748861;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scam-tag-request-user-unclescrooge-founder-and-operator-of-bitfinex-com.133691/ 699420;1401748861;assbot;[scam tag request] user unclescrooge founder and operator of bitfinex.com | Bitcointa.lk 699421;1401749092;kakobrekla;but i honestly believe they are getting traffic 699422;1401749114;kakobrekla;where else sheep gonna go? bitstamp is fucking them too directly. 699423;1401749205;kakobrekla;and afaik bs did another audit recently, where it shows they have less btc in books t han in the last one 699424;1401749258;mircea_popescu;traffic is one thing. 699425;1401749282;mircea_popescu;im sure they';re getting plenty of traffic, no argument there. 699426;1401749303;mircea_popescu;as a reddit/facebook/whatever social media site, bitfinex is just as good as any one of a thousand third hand niche things 699427;1401749354;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: jurov: smbx had perverse incentives (usg funding that appeared bottomless - until it died suddenly. reagan's 'star wars.') << best way to sink a good start-up is a bad revenue source early on. 699428;1401749366;mircea_popescu;there are reasons a good manager is worth more than a good anything. 699429;1401749497;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: re: kickstarter: lol. suggested experiment: open a kickstart, with the headline 'pay my living expense for 20 years. in the end, you might get a useful gizmo if i live that long.' << you're making jurov's argument for him tho. 699430;1401749513;mircea_popescu;why would you phrase it that stupidly ? 699431;1401749696;fluffypony;I find Bitfinex's numbers highly suspect 699432;1401749898;mircea_popescu;you and everyone else capable of safely keeping a bitcoin for a year 699433;1401750013;mircea_popescu;who is lobbes ? 699434;1401750015;mircea_popescu;!up lobbes 699435;1401750047;mircea_popescu;jurov: i move for moiety to call them, ask about mpex and report for lulz << carried. moiety plz to call and ask 699436;1401750071;mircea_popescu;!up CoalPowerGorilla 699437;1401750094;nubbins`;i'm feeling like lelel 699438;1401750097;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/v4inNXM.gif 699439;1401750115;nubbins`;"bongtu" is korean for "plastic bag" 699440;1401750125;nubbins`;that yellow contraption says "bungtu" written on it 699441;1401750127;nubbins`;hilarity 699442;1401750132;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: why would you phrase it that stupidly << the answer is, because i haven't the titanic brain that would be needed to come up with a 'smart' way to phrase it. so generally i don't bring the subject up, unless asked first. 'basic research' is a fundamentally... unreasonable proposition from the ROI standpoint. i'm not particularly good at justifying unreasonable things. 699443;1401750160;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: benkay: Are they supposing I want to fuck a hurricaine? << imagine the suction. 699444;1401750169;mircea_popescu;golf ball through garden hose, LITERALLY. 699445;1401750189;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, gotta be more easy going you know ? 699446;1401750204;asciilifeform;nubbins`: what's that? 699447;1401750208;nubbins`;plunger 699448;1401750214;mircea_popescu;"please kickstart my cool fundamental project. fundamental research is important because it's what keeps kittens purr" 699449;1401750216;asciilifeform;nubbins`: lol! 699450;1401750226;mircea_popescu;that's a major improvement. 699451;1401750298;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the usual reply of audience is 'why ought we give $bignum to you and not the 9,999 other wankers' 699452;1401750366;mircea_popescu;and the usual reply is to jus tignore the question. 699453;1401750528;mircea_popescu;in summa : you are approaching it as a hard problem. it's not, it's quite soft 699454;1401750531;mircea_popescu;and a little brown. 699455;1401750667;mircea_popescu;Reached by phone Monday afternoon, Slaughter was unaware of Kander's news release but said it must have been part of a settlement his lawyers were working on with the office. He said he also expects to have to pay a fine. 699456;1401750667;mircea_popescu;"I haven't heard from my lawyer exactly how much that's going to be," he said. 699457;1401750688;mircea_popescu;idiot. no, it's not part of it. it's part of every govt agency even remotely arguably connected trying to get a slice 699458;1401750700;mircea_popescu;because they're paid by how much they pretend to have mattered the previous year. 699459;1401751110;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 848 @ 0.00018311 = 0.1553 BTC [-] {40} 699460;1401751537;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00087271 = 12.087 BTC [-] {2} 699461;1401751783;dub;wtfing at this bittrex feature 699462;1401751810;dub;Use Caution: This will zero (0) the balance of your wallet and cannot be reversed. Please be absolutely sure you want to do this before you confirm. 699463;1401751823;dub;use case? 699464;1401752074;kakobrekla;prolly if you end up in negative, you can zero it back! 699465;1401752449;BingoBoingo;http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/d/story/bitcoin-scheme-stopped-in-springfield/42134/mpENjSmOFUOVEPibioIXYA 699466;1401752450;assbot;Springfield Bitcoin Investment Plan Stopped by State of MO - OzarksFirst.com 699467;1401752556;danielpbarron;dub, maybe something to do with that change you can never withdraw or trade on exchanges; the stuff that's not big enough for any of the minimums 699468;1401752616;danielpbarron;(not that a "zero your balance" is a good solution to that0 699469;1401753367;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00087364 = 19.3074 BTC [+] 699470;1401753855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21000984 = 0.42 BTC [-] 699471;1401753871;mircea_popescu;kako has it actually 699472;1401753876;mircea_popescu;ancient bitcoinica bug 699473;1401753890;mike_c;RFC: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ 699474;1401753892;assbot;Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance. 699475;1401753946;mircea_popescu;mike_c, o wow, how is bitbet negastive ? she lost a bet meanwhile ? 699476;1401753955;mike_c;sort of 699477;1401753963;mike_c;er, yes 699478;1401753969;mike_c;she won, but it didn't cover the small hedge 699479;1401753979;mircea_popescu;link ? 699480;1401754023;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b5 699481;1401754023;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago 699482;1401754109;mircea_popescu;ah i c 699483;1401754136;mircea_popescu;dude is it great that these aren't related and so p2 can cover p4 etc 699484;1401754156;mircea_popescu;anywya, splendid tool that thing. 699485;1401754187;mike_c;will get even more live when jurov finishes his thing :) 699486;1401754203;mircea_popescu;splendid. 699487;1401754238;mircea_popescu;once bb's pot increases significantly i'll bug him to do something similar, but for now a small wildcard is all the spritz needed 699488;1401754258;mircea_popescu;anywya, fascinating what open *really* means. 699489;1401754268;mike_c;agreed 699490;1401754299;mircea_popescu;and making history and all that jazz all the derps claim 699491;1401754355;BingoBoingo;I'm still wondering how I might do that, but there are ideas. 699492;1401754450;mike_c;jurov's book would make infinite loop anyway. nav = (pc1,2,3,4) + nav * pc5 shares 699493;1401754569;mircea_popescu;part of the reason why i took him of nav pricing 699494;1401754575;mircea_popescu;he's doing mkt value. 699495;1401754871;mircea_popescu;o look at that, jd a whole dime up since yest too ? 699496;1401754876;mircea_popescu;muy bien muy bien 699497;1401756783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00087445 = 13.7726 BTC [+] {4} 699498;1401757272;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/winklevoss-twins-buying-giant-14-5-million-penthouse-1584927093/+sarah-hedgecock 699499;1401757273;assbot;Winklevoss Twins Buying Giant $14.5 Million Penthouse... Together? 699500;1401757279;BingoBoingo;^ Twincest 699501;1401758308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.22000007 = 1.32 BTC [+] {2} 699502;1401758369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1864 @ 0.00087363 = 1.6284 BTC [-] 699503;1401758614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0303 = 0.303 BTC [+] 699504;1401758785;BingoBoingo;!t m f.mpif 699505;1401758786;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021539 / 0.00021552 (1050 shares, 0.23 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021704 / 0.00021726 (9050 shares, 1.96 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021722 / 0.00021726 (114803 shares, 24.94 BTC) 699506;1401758796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2250002 BTC [+] 699507;1401758857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.225 = 4.5 BTC [-] 699508;1401758918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22002146 BTC [-] 699509;1401759516;BingoBoingo;!up Pierre_Rochard 699510;1401760101;decimation;asciilifeform re: truecrypt audit >> it is indeed old news, but I didn't see the point emphasized on the channel 699511;1401760139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07989979 = 0.1598 BTC [+] 699512;1401760382;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22002168 = 0.6601 BTC [+] {2} 699513;1401760443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21833333 = 1.31 BTC [-] {2} 699514;1401760463;decimation;asciilieform re: transformer isn't nonlinear resonance something to be avoided? How does the circuit maintain its nolinear resonance with variable load conditions. 699515;1401760504;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.0303 = 0.909 BTC [-] 699516;1401760565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2031 BTC [-] 699517;1401760566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.07987578 = 3.9139 BTC [-] 699518;1401761018;asciilifeform;decimation: How does the circuit maintain its nolinear resonance with variable load << naturally, this is possible only within rated limit of a particular machine. 699519;1401761080;asciilifeform;decimation: http://www.aelgroup.co.uk/hb/hb001.htm << good basic summary of the concept 699520;1401761080;assbot;hb001 Constant Voltage Transformer (CVT) introduction - the perfect sine wave 699521;1401761236;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95680 @ 0.00087187 = 83.4205 BTC [-] {8} 699522;1401761358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.22997729 = 1.3799 BTC [+] {2} 699523;1401761421;BingoBoingo;"This bait and switch defense procurement situation, one that has become eerily circular in nature, is a much larger threat to national security then uneducated men in mud huts with AK-47s. A foe which we have spent trillions targeting and killing for over the last decade with little to show for it." http://aviationintel.com/disgrace-navys-f-35b-carrier/ 699524;1401761424;assbot;DISGRACE: NAVY’S NEW PURPOSE BUILT “F-35B CARRIER” CANNOT WITHSTAND CONTINUOUS F-35B OR MV-22 OPERATIONS | AviationIntel.com 699525;1401761541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22997781 BTC [+] 699526;1401762212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.24131322 = 9.6525 BTC [+] {8} 699527;1401762218;benkay;!up chairforce1 699528;1401762247;chairforce1;why hello 699529;1401762252;benkay;how's it been? 699530;1401762257;chairforce1;excellent 699531;1401762261;chairforce1;u? 699532;1401762266;benkay;p okay 699533;1401762269;benkay;must cloast moar deals 699534;1401762278;chairforce1;which deals? 699535;1401762287;chairforce1;of wat nature 699536;1401762298;benkay;of the software-y and app-y nature 699537;1401762304;chairforce1;i love nature 699538;1401762327;chairforce1;r u making an app? 699539;1401762334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-] 699540;1401762403;benkay;"an" lolzlzozlz 699541;1401762441;chairforce1;? 699542;1401762444;chairforce1;an application? 699543;1401762464;benkay;no as in like "only one?" 699544;1401762468;chairforce1;oh 699545;1401762488;chairforce1;how many r in the pipeline? 699546;1401762547;BingoBoingo;Maxint apps 699547;1401762591;benkay;(def maxint-apps (capacity-planner nerds-as-what-need-pimping-out)) 699548;1401762602;benkay;setv if you're cool, i guess 699549;1401762638;benkay;<-- v. not cool opportunistic lisper 699550;1401762639;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22971385 BTC [-] 699551;1401762646;benkay;<-- responsible for bedrock 699552;1401762678;benkay;what's so excellent with you, chairforce1 ? 699553;1401762751;chairforce1;well 699554;1401762803;chairforce1;idk what maxint and setv are 699555;1401762813;chairforce1;but im excellent because bitcoin is fun 699556;1401762817;chairforce1;and 699557;1401762830;chairforce1;i spent some time with my friends today 699558;1401762883;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.22971385 = 0.4594 BTC [-] {2} 699559;1401762924;benkay;what's so fun about bitcoin? 699560;1401762974;chairforce1;well 699561;1401762979;chairforce1;the who industry 699562;1401762983;chairforce1;its so new 699563;1401762986;chairforce1;and akward 699564;1401762990;chairforce1;no1 knows how to deal with it 699565;1401762998;chairforce1;its like watching a fawn beng born 699566;1401763005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00203776 = 0.1202 BTC [+] {6} 699567;1401763008;chairforce1;its funny 699568;1401763114;BingoBoingo;I guess that's fair, there's been a lot of blood 699569;1401763127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.24999997 = 4.75 BTC [+] {2} 699570;1401763128;benkay;are you doing anything interesting with btc? 699571;1401763150;chairforce1;no 699572;1401763152;chairforce1;just admiring it 699573;1401763160;chairforce1;buy little bits here and there 699574;1401763170;chairforce1;when i can 699575;1401763191;chairforce1;yes there has been blood 699576;1401763196;chairforce1;bitcoin is ruthless 699577;1401763217;chairforce1;the markets are irrational 699578;1401763231;chairforce1;large players play around 699579;1401763257;chairforce1;securities is a bigger blood bath 699580;1401763263;chairforce1;the wild west of the wild west 699581;1401763267;chairforce1;no1 knows wtf is gong on 699582;1401763371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21004478 BTC [-] 699583;1401763508;decimation;asciilifeform: re: cvt: interesting. It seems to me that saturating the secondary would clip the output waveform, precautions must have been taken to prevent this 699584;1401763656;decimation;books.google.com/books?id=h2Es9vpaKhQC&pg=SA9-PA2 699585;1401764713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08600002 = 0.172 BTC [-] {2} 699586;1401764957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0303 = 0.1515 BTC [-] 699587;1401765077;decimation;asciilifeform: after reading that chapter, it appears that ferroresonant transformers help with voltage regulation, suppressing harmonics and transients, as well as riding through nasty undervolt conditions (that kill switching power supplies). They aren't very helpful for momentary outages, as you have said. 699588;1401765119;asciilifeform;decimation: correct. 699589;1401765125;decimation;I might have to go find one of my own, if they are available for cheap. 699590;1401765126;asciilifeform;decimation: for outages, ordinary ups. 699591;1401765145;asciilifeform;decimation: (no reason not to connect traditional ups in series) 699592;1401765160;decimation;before the transformer I presume? 699593;1401765172;asciilifeform;aye 699594;1401765230;kakobrekla;ok so this newlisp is slow as fuck even if they claim otherwise. 699595;1401765257;asciilifeform;'newlisp' is the 'feathercoin' of lisps 699596;1401765267;kakobrekla;is it? 699597;1401765271;kakobrekla;no clue 699598;1401765282;kakobrekla;had high hopes at first glance 699599;1401765287;asciilifeform;author started by pissing all over every single advance in the history of the language - starting with lexical scope, moving on to compiler, etc 699600;1401765305;asciilifeform;but, 'new' ! 699601;1401765323;kakobrekla;other things but 'new' attracted me, but whatever. 699602;1401765347;kakobrekla;i found something else to waste time on 699603;1401765394;decimation;the 'trick' is the airgapped shunt that causes the secondary to saturate, thus causing the output voltage to remain in a narrow range. It's interesting to me that this has been known since 1940, is ideal for computers, and is apparently mostly unknown amoung computer users 699604;1401765418;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: vaguely relevant ancient thread: http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/not-all-programmers-alike/#comment-3674 699605;1401765420;assbot;Not all programmers are alike: a language rant | Locklin on science 699606;1401765444;asciilifeform;decimation: it is very, very well known among computer users. behind the 'iron curtain.' 699607;1401765493;decimation;"management" in the west would hate the buzzing 699608;1401765512;asciilifeform;decimation: the pill against the buzz is to lock the thing in a closet 699609;1401765532;decimation;yeah, wires exist for a reason I guess. 699610;1401765561;asciilifeform;decimation: your mains step-down transformer would also be quite audible if you were to take it off the pole and bring it in your living room. 699611;1401765615;decimation;I'm interested in the lightning suppression, I live in a lightning-prone area and I want to take precautions against harm. I'm not convinced by the "protect" LED in cheapass MOV devices 699612;1401765671;asciilifeform;CVTs are still used in places where equipment costs $maxint. i personally ordered one installed in a lab where i once worked. 699613;1401765692;asciilifeform;(we were getting transients from a newly installed gigantic air conditioner) 699614;1401765773;asciilifeform;quite a few of the units you'll find on 'ebay' are labeled 'minicomputer transformer.' so, i imagine they were shipped with pdp and vax. 699615;1401765800;asciilifeform;if your computer costs serious dough, a $1k power filter is small change. 699616;1401765813;decimation;yeah, that's the kind of device where you want to shop "ebay local" 699617;1401765819;asciilifeform;that or 'free ship' 699618;1401765839;decimation;lol I bet it costs $1 to ship from hong kong 699619;1401765905;asciilifeform;decimation: they're typically guaranteed for 25 years or so. get a used box with clear conscience. 699620;1401766055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07435204 = 0.1487 BTC [-] 699621;1401766246;decimation;re: dataflow: I've been browsing the academic papers on "dataflow" computers. Most of them are crazy "C machine" and "Dataflow sidecar" hybrids. Makes as much sense as putting a massive aircraft engine in a car: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJn7LHE83cc 699622;1401766259;asciilifeform;incidentally: cvt is a good pill against nosy buggers who'd like to 'read' bits off your mains wiring. 699623;1401766293;kakobrekla;interesting asciilifeform , you really have seen it all, and too bad you didnt link me a week ago. :) 699624;1401766299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02437999 = 0.2438 BTC [-] 699625;1401766317;decimation;I prefer to keep the lower frequency EM fields around my house pure, so I can receive shortwave well 699626;1401766466;decimation;like this guy - all kinds of citations etc: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mihaib/research/iwls04.pdf Figure 1 is amusing/sad 699627;1401766482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.0215101 = 0.3657 BTC [-] {7} 699628;1401766543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0215101 = 0.1936 BTC [-] {8} 699629;1401766604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0215 = 0.215 BTC [-] 699630;1401766665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.02051 = 0.3487 BTC [-] {2} 699631;1401766666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.02437999 = 0.3901 BTC [-] 699632;1401766909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0205 = 0.205 BTC [-] 699633;1401767275;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.0201001 = 0.4422 BTC [-] {4} 699634;1401767337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.02010007 = 0.4422 BTC [-] {5} 699635;1401767397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02001675 = 0.1201 BTC [-] {2} 699636;1401767580;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02437999 = 0.1219 BTC [-] 699637;1401767702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07987039 = 0.5591 BTC [+] {3} 699638;1401767764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.03039 = 0.152 BTC [+] 699639;1401768434;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5295 @ 0.00087029 = 4.6082 BTC [-] {2} 699640;1401769444;mircea_popescu;;;later tell decimation mihaib sounds like quite the romanian name 699641;1401769444;gribble;The operation succeeded. 699642;1401769749;[]bot;Bet created: "Any European team to win 2014 FIFA Football World Cup" http://bitbet.us/bet/873/ 699643;1401769819;mircea_popescu;i gotta say i really like how btcalpha works. 699644;1401770691;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43163 @ 0.0008695 = 37.5302 BTC [-] {3} 699645;1401771362;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5832 @ 0.00086828 = 5.0638 BTC [-] 699646;1401772033;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8067 @ 0.00086828 = 7.0044 BTC [-] 699647;1401772704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 16 @ 0.03030312 = 0.4848 BTC [-] {2} 699648;1401772779;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 699649;1401772782;gribble;Current Blocks: 303960 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 455 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11611667751.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.05565 699650;1401772826;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32356 @ 0.00086763 = 28.073 BTC [-] {3} 699651;1401772887;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24361 @ 0.00086662 = 21.1117 BTC [-] 699652;1401773009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21036645 = 0.6311 BTC [+] {3} 699653;1401773052;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1707;sa=showPosts 699654;1401773052;assbot;Latest posts of: kslaughter 699655;1401773131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0304 = 0.608 BTC [+] 699656;1401773314;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2101 BTC [-] 699657;1401773376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02811021 = 0.2249 BTC [-] {2} 699658;1401773802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02811015 = 0.5622 BTC [-] {2} 699659;1401773948;dub;lol 699660;1401773969;lobbes;It is a shitstorm in that thread. 699661;1401774229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00183002 = 0.1409 BTC [-] 699662;1401774412;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082843 = 3.3137 BTC [-] 699663;1401774595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00082843 = 8.2843 BTC [-] 699664;1401774839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02437999 = 0.3657 BTC [-] 699665;1401775384;dub;!t m s.mpoe 699666;1401775384;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082843 / 0.00087459 / 0.0008815 (1017982 shares, 890.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00080316 / 0.00087188 / 0.00090911 (6297303 shares, 5,490.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00080316 / 0.00090953 / 0.00101 (26331504 shares, 23,949.53 BTC) 699667;1401775510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07450141 = 0.3725 BTC [-] 699668;1401775517;dub;im struggling with how this person is profiting from all this manip^HHHrket making 699669;1401775571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.07368519 = 21.7371 BTC [-] {15} 699670;1401776486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02437999 = 0.2438 BTC [-] 699671;1401777036;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00081 = 8.1 BTC [-] 699672;1401777440;xmj;Good morning. 699673;1401778051;kakobrekla;hi 699674;1401778488;fluffypony;gutentag 699675;1401778560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21009006 = 0.4202 BTC [-] 699676;1401780085;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00080218 = 0.8022 BTC [-] 699677;1401781183;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 180 @ 0.02021789 = 3.6392 BTC [+] {5} 699678;1401781244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0202409 = 0.6072 BTC [+] 699679;1401781427;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0008 = 4.8 BTC [-] {2} 699680;1401781976;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22947 @ 0.00080218 = 18.4076 BTC [+] 699681;1401781981;benkay; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1707;sa=showPosts // what the fuck am i looking 699682;1401781982;assbot;Latest posts of: kslaughter 699683;1401782033;dub;with any luck the end of any need to further troll his victims 699684;1401782041;dub;its old now 699685;1401782647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0202409 = 0.1417 BTC [+] 699686;1401782709;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 327 @ 0.00210072 = 0.6869 BTC [-] 699687;1401783684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07209 = 0.2884 BTC [+] {2} 699688;1401783806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.0202409 = 0.2834 BTC [+] 699689;1401784843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00080143 = 2.4043 BTC [-] 699690;1401786673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 416 @ 0.02438471 = 10.144 BTC [+] {5} 699691;1401786734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0245 = 0.1225 BTC [+] 699692;1401788320;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4390 @ 0.0008 = 3.512 BTC [-] 699693;1401788808;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 389 @ 0.0202409 = 7.8737 BTC [+] 699694;1401789678;BingoBoingo;benkay With any luck you were looking at someone's best efforts to spoil any money they might have already spent on lawyers. 699695;1401789784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21100517 = 0.422 BTC [+] 699696;1401789845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.21100503 = 2.1101 BTC [-] {3} 699697;1401790150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.21910428 = 1.7528 BTC [+] {4} 699698;1401790272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.22799999 = 5.016 BTC [+] {2} 699699;1401790376;pankkake;http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/03/0312232/seattle-approves-15-per-hour-minimum-wage notice the clever trick… it will be in 2021 699700;1401790377;assbot;Seattle Approves $15 Per Hour Minimum Wage - Slashdot 699701;1401790455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] 699702;1401790516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] 699703;1401790577;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-] 699704;1401791439;moiety;good morning :D 699705;1401792041;jurov;hi moiety :) 699706;1401792068;jurov;you're up to a call to missouri, have you seen it? 699707;1401792091;jurov;(not anything urgent) 699708;1401792468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.07201187 = 3.4566 BTC [-] {2} 699709;1401793054;xmj;!up 699710;1401793059;xmj;well, that worked. 699711;1401793074;*;xmj can recommend tilaa.nl for FreeBSD VPS. 699712;1401793322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.021502 = 0.2365 BTC [-] {2} 699713;1401793383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02111493 = 0.2111 BTC [-] 699714;1401794239;*;Naphex recommends using dedicated servers instead of virtual anything. 699715;1401795563;*;jurov recommends network of VPSes distributed to different suppliers 699716;1401795577;jurov;now if I can figure out how to sanely manage it 699717;1401796128;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00079366 = 13.2144 BTC [-] 699718;1401796171;xmj;jurov: ansible ? 699719;1401796172;Naphex;why would you do anything on a hypervisor you don't control is beyond me. 699720;1401796238;pankkake;because it's THE CLOUD 699721;1401796239;Naphex;you can even skip thinking that anything stored there is secure. cause everything is available to the hypervisor and who runs it 699722;1401796248;xmj;Do you run a binary linux distribution like Fedora/EL6,7/Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, ...? 699723;1401796259;Naphex;your ram, your encryption, your keys, your storage, your IRQs 699724;1401796294;Naphex;i compile from source on verified sum packages 699725;1401796305;fluffypony;I'm moving all of my sites on to iCloud 699726;1401796312;fluffypony;I'll be writing them in Swift 699727;1401796314;Naphex;then snapshot that and use it to clone servers 699728;1401796321;Apocalyptic;fluffypony, sounds like a win 699729;1401796352;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: yeah it's really going to save me having to learn JavaScript and using Node, that seemed way too complicated 699730;1401796377;fluffypony;although I hear mongoDB is the best database because even CoinBase uses it 699731;1401796388;Naphex;"Objective-C without the baggage of C." 699732;1401796397;Naphex;so.. 699733;1401796432;Naphex;http://regmedia.co.uk/2014/06/02/swift_benchmark.jpg i like it how they beat python in it trololol 699734;1401796497;jurov;xmj when on every machine is potentially different distro, and even roles of the machines are different? 699735;1401796505;Apocalyptic;and they chose on the most used crypto algorithm today... behold RC4 699736;1401796509;Apocalyptic;*one 699737;1401796525;pankkake;why would you use a different distro? 699738;1401796544;jurov;because they don't offer the one i want? 699739;1401796551;pankkake;oh, well, that sucks 699740;1401796562;pankkake;though yes I don't use Gentoo on VPSes 699741;1401796620;jurov;but it has some sweet upsides, part of coinbr infrastructure is down all the time, i can fix it later when I have the time 699742;1401796640;jurov;nobody noticed so far :) 699743;1401796643;Naphex;well, it shouldn't be down in the first place 699744;1401796717;jurov;well, since the part(s) running mpexagent is/are at physically hardly accessible place 699745;1401796731;jurov;some redundance is in order 699746;1401796759;jurov;are your keys physically inaccessible at secret locations, naphex? 699747;1401796773;Naphex;jurov: what keys? 699748;1401796793;jurov;coinbr needs gpg keys to trade on mpex, obv 699749;1401796800;jurov;and they must be online 699750;1401796823;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/knc-neptune-20nm-wafers-headed-packaging/ 699751;1401796841;jurov;so i had to hide them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of them whould prohibitively expensive 699752;1401796855;xmj;jurov: as long as they have python installed, no problem 699753;1401796871;xmj;jurov: Ansible is pretty powerful even in heterogenous envs. 699754;1401796891;fluffypony;don't be sexist 699755;1401796897;fluffypony;even hetero servers need love 699756;1401796905;xmj;we use it from jenkins with different nix variants including centos and ubuntu 699757;1401796921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.22001595 = 0.44 BTC [+] 699758;1401796933;Naphex;jurov: i have a whole cluster of servers :p secret keys run on encrypted hardware, servers run bare and have several layers of security & apis for it. 699759;1401796947;Naphex;cold wallets can just be multisig 699760;1401797014;xe4l;Morning 699761;1401797017;jurov;xmj i'm still pretty much in the beginning, so far it seems saltstack has more fitting primitives 699762;1401797025;Naphex;everything is physical, on _owned_ hardware in special datacenters. 699763;1401797100;jurov;good for you 699764;1401797110;xe4l;I dont't understand the need for special datacenters 699765;1401797132;Naphex;well, don't know how much of a need it is 699766;1401797138;jurov;=DCs protected by specnaz 699767;1401797142;xe4l;unless your saying private colo, as in you alone have physical access 699768;1401797149;xmj;jurov: saltstack is brilliant if you want a master/client setup with at least one master configuring multiple clients 699769;1401797151;xe4l;otherwise an EQ or whatever is equally good 699770;1401797155;Naphex;but having datacenters with qualified professinals and an actuall account manger. + guarded access to the datacenter 699771;1401797169;Naphex;also you don't want shitty datacenter support running with your hard drives 699772;1401797190;xmj;Naphex: I like owned hardware. Co-location and self-owning is factually less expensive. but you'll have to maintain the hardware, which can suck. 699773;1401797191;Naphex;so you better make sure if its serious you pick a very good datacenter, with protection and other several high profile customers 699774;1401797191;xe4l;can always get a cage at EQ and swap the locks out 699775;1401797213;Naphex;xmj: if you pick good hardware and balance rightly there is not that much maintainance 699776;1401797224;Naphex;i mean replace and ocassional broken drive every year or so 699777;1401797224;fluffypony;xmj: please don't be sexist 699778;1401797229;fluffypony;master/slave is bad terminology 699779;1401797236;xmj;Naphex: yep, but definitely more so than when you outsource that whole thing to someone. 699780;1401797237;Naphex;and deprecate/switch some servers 699781;1401797238;xe4l;The trick is to have your dynamic capacity all on the cloud and use the hardware for things requring a high degree of trust 699782;1401797245;xmj;Naphex: obviously depends on your biz model. 699783;1401797256;Naphex;i mean, if you're making dough 699784;1401797258;xmj;if you're interested in building infrastructure, that's different 699785;1401797260;Naphex;you better hire a sysadmin 699786;1401797263;Naphex;and some coders and a designer 699787;1401797267;Naphex;to maintain your shit 699788;1401797272;Naphex;or just quit or sell it or whatever 699789;1401797287;Naphex;no point in delusioning yourself forever with outsourcing, and clouds, and virtual stuff 699790;1401797295;xmj;Naphex: we're in 2014 699791;1401797311;xmj;clouds and virtual stuff _just works_ and has been for five years. 699792;1401797321;xmj;sysadmins are called 'devops engineers' 699793;1401797333;Naphex;well thats just washy washy 699794;1401797357;Naphex;too me it just sounds like lazy developers and lazy bussiness owners 699795;1401797366;Naphex;who just want to run their shit without every thinking about anything 699796;1401797369;Naphex;and meanwhile profiting 699797;1401797375;pankkake;the fact is that devops don't understand the first thing about unix 699798;1401797391;pankkake;my time at devops events = oh my god what am i doing here 699799;1401797423;Naphex;yes the webdevel generation 699800;1401797433;xe4l;there's a large disparity in the skillset of people with a devops 699801;1401797439;pankkake;it usually works fine until it doesn't 699802;1401797451;jurov;Naphex you do everything properly and they you get forced to surrender ssl cert to cloudflare anyway 699803;1401797461;jurov;upo thread of expulsion from the dc 699804;1401797482;Naphex;jurov: i've never heard of threat of explusion from dc, and if you get that just move. louzy dc 699805;1401797510;pankkake;that wasn't trolling? 699806;1401797511;Naphex;a dc should have proper ddos mitigations, and solutions for ddos/dos. and the worst case scenario they should cut your upstream 699807;1401797514;xe4l;I've never heard of that 699808;1401797514;Naphex;and recover after that 699809;1401797533;jurov;you have such dc in romania? 699810;1401797539;xe4l;Naphex: maybe if your dealing with bottom rate providers, why not build your own edge instead of using whatever blended they have 699811;1401797541;Naphex;jurov: yes 699812;1401797566;Naphex;i am very happy with my dc, they have everything <3 699813;1401797579;pankkake;but do they have clouds? 699814;1401797585;Naphex;nowadays yeah 699815;1401797593;Naphex;my AM tried to sell me some cloud :) 699816;1401797600;Naphex;i told him to shove it 699817;1401797610;Naphex;but i still doubt they sell any cloud 699818;1401797622;Naphex;most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk 699819;1401797638;pankkake;do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways too? 699820;1401797645;fluffypony;butt 699821;1401797649;Naphex;caca 699822;1401797656;Naphex;cacacloud 699823;1401797664;pankkake;lol 699824;1401797667;Naphex;i mean, hey if you want some virtualizing buy 10 servers, host some hypervisor 699825;1401797670;Naphex;and run them up and down 699826;1401797684;Naphex;host your sendmail on vps1, http vps2, whatever 699827;1401797696;pankkake;http://youtu.be/sU8Sge0nNJU 699828;1401797697;assbot;Clouds - Radical Cutting Methods - YouTube 699829;1401797703;fluffypony;my biggest gripe with the cloud 699830;1401797713;fluffypony;is that a VPS of any measurably decent performance 699831;1401797719;fluffypony;costs me the same as a dedi box 699832;1401797723;xe4l;not really 699833;1401797745;Naphex;i mean whats this thing about costs nowadays 699834;1401797748;xe4l;there are quite a few inexpensive cloud providers 699835;1401797749;fluffypony;xe4l: oversold resources cannot compete with dedicated resources 699836;1401797752;Naphex;or just everyone poor?:) 699837;1401797766;mircea_popescu;am i the only one that most enjoys writing dismissal letters of all the letter types there are ? 699838;1401797770;Naphex;200eur/month for 32GBram sever, with 32 cores, and some fast storage 699839;1401797775;Naphex;run your shit forever 699840;1401797776;mircea_popescu;not even ransom notes are this much fun 699841;1401797776;xe4l;agreed, but that's not the use case of virtual servers really 699842;1401797783;xe4l;I wouldn 699843;1401797803;xe4l;run my main db on a vps, but I would run a bunch of read slaves, web servers, etc 699844;1401797812;xe4l;things I wanted to rapidly scale based upon demand 699845;1401797837;mircea_popescu;dub: im struggling with how this person is profiting from all this manip^HHHrket making << i don't see how it could be a single person, it makes no sense 699846;1401797842;mircea_popescu;also it's ^H^H^H 699847;1401797849;mircea_popescu;hi xe4l. who are you ? 699848;1401797853;xe4l;I doubt theres a single site in the alexa top 250 that runs purely off of cloud without basically purchasing the equiv of a physical box, eg: AWS provisioned vps 699849;1401797875;fluffypony;xe4l: last year I had to reindex a large database table (a necessary evil occasionally). I thought to offload it to a VPS provider, Linode or DigitalOcean or someone, so as to avoid needing to choke my db server. Needless to say, 12 hours in they shitcanned the VPS slice because of "excessive resource usage". 699850;1401797885;xe4l;friend of joecool, infosec/nix/network/etc person 699851;1401797895;fluffypony;so now if I need something like that I just fire up http://www.baremetalcloud.com and pay by the hour for a dedicated box to do the work 699852;1401797923;mircea_popescu;welcome. 699853;1401797929;xe4l;thank you 699854;1401797966;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, basically "the cloud" is just the new marketing gimmick, used to be "unmetered access shared servers" in 2004 699855;1401797974;fluffypony;yeah 699856;1401797978;mircea_popescu;get INFINITE BANDWIDTH for $5 699857;1401797980;xe4l;p.much 699858;1401797996;*;xe4l works for a very fast growing cloud hosting company 699859;1401798004;mircea_popescu;lmao 699860;1401798008;mircea_popescu;why in the hell. 699861;1401798046;mircea_popescu;*: Naphex recommends using dedicated servers instead of virtual anything. << im with him jurov. i would guess all the romanianz on the internet are with us. which means YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY. all of youse. 699862;1401798073;jurov;wut 699863;1401798108;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: I'll be writing them in Swift << and in a little while you can be known as rapedpony 699864;1401798116;fluffypony;hah hah 699865;1401798137;mircea_popescu;jurov, wut wut 699866;1401798159;jurov;trouble parsing that statement 699867;1401798183;pankkake;I've had to read it twice 699868;1401798189;pankkake;ovh really did have infinite bandwidth but they were apparently looking for it 699869;1401798224;mircea_popescu;pankkake, economics are economics. i get that the large peering networks mostly peer for free, but that "free" is a hidden cost 699870;1401798235;mircea_popescu;(you must offer equal capacity, which has a carrying cost on the books 699871;1401798253;fluffypony;Darkcoin fanbois eventually back down when cornered and admit there's no cryptographic grounding: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2751e8/psa_dont_fall_for_darkcoins_deceiving_marketing/chxy4wv?context=5 699872;1401798254;assbot;Ozziecoin comments on PSA: Don't fall for Darkcoin's deceiving marketing and pump and dump. It's just a copy of CoinJoin (created by a Bitcoin core dev, for Bitcoin), and does not give perfect anonymity. 699873;1401798265;mircea_popescu;and even if you do make it huge, the ops will just start charging you for THEIR carry capacity, which you've now made a scarce resource through your managerial incompetence) 699874;1401798293;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, what i like is how "a core dev" is dropping the use of his actual name. 699875;1401798315;fluffypony;"Evan brings Darkcoin over 17 years of software development experience and an interest in artificial intelligence, financial markets and economics." 699876;1401798333;fluffypony;because when you want a cryptographically sound solution to anonymity 699877;1401798347;fluffypony;what you really want is a VB.net developer with an economics background 699878;1401798362;pankkake;that is 17 years old 699879;1401798370;mircea_popescu;jurov: so i had to hide them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of them whould prohibitively expensive << actually the one secret in all of btc i;m most curious about is the complete schematics of the rat's nest jurov no doubt built. 699880;1401798379;fluffypony;https://www.darkcoin.io/meetteam.html 699881;1401798380;assbot;DARKCOIN 699882;1401798384;fluffypony;"Kyle brings over 25 years of experience in System Administration and Development. " 699883;1401798389;fluffypony;more relevant skills 699884;1401798395;mircea_popescu;i don't tend to spy on allies (unlike the us, let it be pointed out) and so i guess that's one thing to look forward to once he's extradited 699885;1401798430;mircea_popescu;ok you two im bashing that 699886;1401798470;mircea_popescu;anyway, iirc coinjoin was gmaxwell's idea originally. ended up in a lengthy discussion with midnightmagic over its dismerits a year ago 699887;1401798488;jurov;mircea_popescu: it's kinda reverse of the schema of mpex proxies you have posted 699888;1401798517;mircea_popescu;jurov, i can't imagine there aren't piles of strange in there. 699889;1401798559;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, give them a link to that team of muppets, lemme find it 699890;1401798613;mircea_popescu;like "But was it built from the ground up with security in mind ?" 699891;1401798646;fluffypony;OH they keep throwing that out 699892;1401798654;fluffypony;or is that the X11coin crowd 699893;1401798656;fluffypony;yes them 699894;1401798666;fluffypony;so I link them to mintcoin files in the X11coin github repository 699895;1401798670;fluffypony;and they're like "FUD! FUD!" 699896;1401798680;mircea_popescu;lolk 699897;1401798693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.000081 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2} 699898;1401798733;mircea_popescu;i wonder what % of github traffic can actually boot a physical machine in any arbitrary os provided they get the distro. 699899;1401798767;mircea_popescu;(lowest qualification for any driver : can actually start any one car, irrespective of make or model) 699900;1401798826;jurov;lol when i got for first time a (rented) car with automatic gear 699901;1401798839;jurov;could not figure out how to put it in reverse 699902;1401798848;jurov;had to read the manual for 10mins 699903;1401798851;mircea_popescu;Naphex: jurov: i have a whole cluster of servers :p secret keys run on encrypted hardware, servers run bare and have several layers of security & apis for it. << i wager someone paid for a lot of brazilian waxing so far. 699904;1401798855;fluffypony;I find automatics very jarring and disconcerting to drive, lol 699905;1401798867;mircea_popescu;yeah, they're the mac os of cardom. 699906;1401798876;pankkake;reverse seems to be the only non standard thing in cars 699907;1401798877;mircea_popescu;all the fucking buttons are in unexpected places. 699908;1401798896;pankkake;as for github I'd say under 10% 699909;1401798906;mircea_popescu;pankkake, remember back when it was cool ? 699910;1401798914;pankkake;what was cool? 699911;1401798925;fluffypony;cats 699912;1401798929;fluffypony;cars 699913;1401798933;jurov;ponies 699914;1401798933;fluffypony;now moiety is going to get excited 699915;1401798949;fluffypony;jurov: ponies have never been cool, I'm the eternal hipster 699916;1401798967;mircea_popescu;xe4l: can always get a cage at EQ and swap the locks out << actually most midrange dcs don't let you swap locks out 699917;1401798971;fluffypony;"Q: Sometimes I get redirected to another site called “organicmoneyfarm”, what the?" LOL!! 699918;1401798972;mircea_popescu;some charge a fee for it. 699919;1401798972;jurov;waitwhat? bronies != hipsters now? 699920;1401798990;pankkake;indeed, cars used to be cool and got you the girls 699921;1401798992;mircea_popescu;pankkake, githoob. 699922;1401798997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.07330533 = 2.4191 BTC [+] {3} 699923;1401799028;pankkake;I use giteub - teub is verlan for bite 699924;1401799040;pankkake;github is still cool, but I'm not 699925;1401799072;mircea_popescu;Naphex: no point in delusioning yourself forever with outsourcing, and clouds, and virtual stuff << exactly. and at this point i can't tell if xml is trolling or serious. 699926;1401799078;mircea_popescu;hey xml, you trolling or serious ? 699927;1401799118;jurov;you mean xe4l ? 699928;1401799156;mircea_popescu;no i mean http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2014#699790 699929;1401799157;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 699930;1401799179;mircea_popescu;xmj i guess. not my fault he makes me thing of xml. 699931;1401799180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15574 @ 0.00079362 = 12.3598 BTC [-] {2} 699932;1401799184;jurov;oh he's clearly trolling 699933;1401799189;mircea_popescu;a ok. 699934;1401799210;jurov;but physical hw doesn't "just work" neither anymore 699935;1401799229;mircea_popescu;dude computers that "just work" are like girlfriends that "just fuck" 699936;1401799231;mircea_popescu;grow up. 699937;1401799298;jurov;i mean, that's fallacious argument 699938;1401799299;mircea_popescu;jurov: upo thread of expulsion from the dc << what shitcenter was this ? 699939;1401799309;xmj;mircea_popescu: if your girlfriend doesn't, then you're doing it wrong. 699940;1401799318;mircea_popescu;i don't have a girlfriend. 699941;1401799322;xmj;there you are 699942;1401799324;mircea_popescu;neither does jurov. 699943;1401799333;mircea_popescu;the reasons being, of course, outside of the realm of your priors. 699944;1401799422;jurov;what shitcenter was this ? most of faux-dcs i know about 699945;1401799440;mircea_popescu;Naphex: most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk << that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become technologically apt omfg. 699946;1401799485;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00079389 = 12.9801 BTC [+] 699947;1401799497;mircea_popescu;pankkake: do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways too? << cloud in romanian sounds pretty much like duncan mcloud from the clan mcloud. 699948;1401799526;pankkake;by bank can't even configure their ssl properly 699949;1401799668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.0007963 = 37.7048 BTC [+] 699950;1401799694;xe4l;most banks of a nice hardy shell and a gooey interior 699951;1401799695;mircea_popescu;im officially addicted to http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ nao 699952;1401799696;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 699953;1401799708;mircea_popescu;mike_c you has ruined my internets productivity 699954;1401799710;xe4l;I obliterated my first fortune 10 pentest 699955;1401799711;xmj;mircea_popescu: case in point 699956;1401799717;xe4l;all in-scope systems in north america in 24 hours 699957;1401799734;mircea_popescu;xmj, im sorry ? 699958;1401799738;xmj;mircea_popescu: if you do a startup, with an idea in mind -- highlevel one -- and let yourself get distracted by hardware/network issues right in the beginning 699959;1401799755;xmj;mircea_popescu: then that's just you doing it very very wrong as those shouldn't be part of your business in the beginning. 699960;1401799765;xmj;s/business/core business/ 699961;1401799787;jurov;xmj, you should praise github then 699962;1401799803;mircea_popescu;the universe where a heroic twentysomething starts leinterwebs bizniss is a very interesting fictional metaverse. we revel in retelling the stories of adventure and glory much like some women enjoy watching telenovellas. 699963;1401799806;xe4l;github actually has a decent setup these days 699964;1401799820;mircea_popescu;but meanwhile, business is made by businessmen not by aspi[rational] kids 699965;1401799823;Naphex;xmj: hey distracted, since when do you do high level apps, and not think about the hardware they are running or the performance you want to get out of it 699966;1401799834;Naphex;picking hardware to run your shit should be one of the first steps 699967;1401799840;jurov;with decent 0days...just that anyone can commit anything 699968;1401799840;Naphex;and if you can't do it, hire someone who can 699969;1401799857;*;xe4l works with the people that previously worked at github 699970;1401799871;mircea_popescu;xe4l, does that mean all the women or what ? 699971;1401799886;xe4l;no women from github yet 699972;1401799894;xe4l;devops people mostly 699973;1401799897;Naphex;<+mircea_popescu> Naphex: most of their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk << that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become technologically apt omfg. << Maybe but they can pick good datacenters ;] 699974;1401799909;pankkake;jurov: but that's the spirit of open source! :) 699975;1401799913;mircea_popescu;now this may be true. 699976;1401799917;Naphex;and they will have a big sec status on their servers 699977;1401799918;xmj;Naphex: no, thoughts like that right in the beginning are expensive, spin up two-three VPS until you have a customer base to warrant and pay for those thoughts. 699978;1401799934;mircea_popescu;xmj srsly, you;re being stupid. 699979;1401799937;xmj;Naphex: bro do u even lean? 699980;1401799942;xmj;do u even bootstrap? 699981;1401799946;mircea_popescu;i dunno why you think you're entitled to put forth that nonsense in the company of adults, but don't. 699982;1401799955;mircea_popescu;!up joesmoe 699983;1401799966;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot joesmoe 699984;1401799966;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joesmoe: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joesmoe | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joesmoe | Rated since: Tue Mar 12 17:07:21 2013 699985;1401799976;xmj;mircea_popescu: Listen kiddo. I'm talking how it's really done in here. 699986;1401799981;mircea_popescu;joesmoe, you'll need to get in assbot's l2 trust 699987;1401799996;xmj;You do not think about hardware until you get to a point where you can reasonably say you've run into scaling issues. 699988;1401800005;xmj;75% of the startups I know run off AWS. 699989;1401800031;xmj;the others use heroku, rackspace or what-have-you cloud-based hosting. 699990;1401800031;xe4l;I ran my last venture off aws 699991;1401800035;xe4l;aws is terribly expensive though 699992;1401800052;mircea_popescu;i guess my ignore list was hungry. 699993;1401800054;Naphex;so basicly 699994;1401800056;Naphex;don't plan shit 699995;1401800061;mircea_popescu;;;rate xmj -1 meets my definition of marauding idiocy. 699996;1401800063;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user xmj has been recorded. 699997;1401800072;Naphex;and run everything elsewhere not thinking about anything except your very nice hot new facebook app 699998;1401800080;Naphex;that you're doing high level expensive thinking on 699999;1401800088;xmj;;;rate mircea_popescu -2 has no idea about lean startup strategy 700000;1401800089;gribble;Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings. 700001;1401800096;xmj;well that's a shame. 700002;1401800110;fluffypony;startup strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU 700003;1401800110;assbot;Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! - YouTube 700004;1401800110;Naphex;lean startup strategy == fail startup strategy? 700005;1401800153;xe4l;the startup strategy I'm the most fond of at this point is to get the MVP out the door asap so your customers can begin to use your product 700006;1401800163;xmj;exactly 700007;1401800169;Naphex;see, now it takes 2 days 700008;1401800172;Naphex;to buy some servers 700009;1401800174;Naphex;and install em 700010;1401800183;xmj;and thinking about low-level crap like hardware and network infrastructure just is not conducive to your MVP. 700011;1401800192;xe4l;sadly, as much as is I love building the perfect thing on the first go, it's not terribly pheasable unless it's a b2b business 700012;1401800195;mircea_popescu;xe4l, what's the rush anyway. 700013;1401800201;xmj;exactly 700014;1401800204;xe4l;b2c demands you begin to get feedback from your customers 700015;1401800217;xe4l;so you can start tuning the product 700016;1401800219;mircea_popescu;or to put it in another perpsective, if you're in any hurry either your product isn't in a good enough market or your financial structure is shit. 700017;1401800222;Naphex;what have this people been brain washed to do 700018;1401800223;mircea_popescu;fix both first. 700019;1401800225;xmj;I'm not talking about business services. 700020;1401800237;xe4l;I agree with that mircea_popescu 700021;1401800251;Apocalyptic; what have this people been brain washed to do // kinda been wondering the same 700022;1401800253;xmj;mircea_popescu: Bootstrapped lean startups have next to no financial structure. 700023;1401800255;mircea_popescu;i mean sure, everyone gotta eat, so plentry of people will habve to be employed in marginal businesses. 700024;1401800268;mircea_popescu;but if you're claling your marginal business "A start-up" you're basically begging to work for free 700025;1401800278;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00079768 = 0.7977 BTC [+] 700026;1401800281;mircea_popescu;that's why salaries were invented : to pay for work in marginal businesses. 700027;1401800315;Naphex;i don't get most of the arguments anyway 700028;1401800325;Naphex;like its expensive to think about infrastructure 700029;1401800327;Naphex;and networking 700030;1401800330;Naphex;and bleah hardware 700031;1401800333;Naphex;the low level shit 700032;1401800339;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11808 @ 0.0007963 = 9.4027 BTC [-] 700033;1401800352;mircea_popescu;"it's too expensive to do what we should nbe doing but are too lazy to do" 700034;1401800355;jurov;Naphex, good sysdamins are cheap? 700035;1401800355;Apocalyptic;it requires a brain, and it's getting expensive to fond one these days 700036;1401800361;mircea_popescu;or how the us turned itself from a world power into a competitor for nigeria. 700037;1401800362;Apocalyptic;*to find 700038;1401800408;Naphex;to me this sounds exactly like the markting bull in the oldies, where you buy shitty 12$ hosting 700039;1401800409;xe4l;haha Apocalyptic damn tooin 700040;1401800413;Naphex;for your super uber new online bussiness 700041;1401800442;mircea_popescu;now where's that link 700042;1401800463;mircea_popescu;http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html 700043;1401800464;assbot;"It's like twitter. Except we charge people to use it." 700044;1401800512;Naphex;is U.S. not producing any more good sysadmins? 700045;1401800515;Naphex;import some mexicans 700046;1401800524;xe4l;if anyone has a desire for strong anonymity, pm me, someone I know is setting up something interesting 700047;1401800534;Naphex;on cloud hosting 700048;1401800540;Naphex;with everything you do readable to everyone 700049;1401800566;Naphex;developed using lean mean startup strategy of makeing the website, and hosting the vps on amazon aws 700050;1401800571;Naphex;VPN* 700051;1401800641;chetty;oy vey, some of the 'thinking' going on here explains all the recent big data breeches nicely 700052;1401800685;Naphex;i've seen 16 y/o with access to hacked vps supervisors on pretty big providers 700053;1401800692;Apocalyptic;haha, thanks for the link mircea 700054;1401800716;mircea_popescu;chetty, for some reason benkay figured we need live examples of the ycombinator-and-clones "businessmen" for further lulz. 700055;1401800747;chetty;I guess we all could use a refresher every now and then 700056;1401800762;mircea_popescu;at least usagi & co have the excuse that they insistently make nonsensical claims because their brains don't actually work 700057;1401800766;Naphex;http://www.lean.org/whatslean/ 700058;1401800767;assbot;What is Lean 700059;1401800773;Naphex;LEAN thinking 700060;1401800774;Naphex;so culty 700061;1401800786;Apocalyptic;Naphex, more like lean forward 700062;1401800801;Naphex;haha 700063;1401800803;xe4l;Naphex: hm, wonder how they got that access 700064;1401800815;xe4l;hypervisor escape exploit/ 700065;1401800820;Naphex;xe4l: probably hacked em with shitty brute force scans 700066;1401800826;xe4l;lol probably 700067;1401800827;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26930 @ 0.00079827 = 21.4974 BTC [+] {2} 700068;1401800835;mircea_popescu;xe4l, nobody is going to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty thing 700069;1401800838;xmj;Note: I'm not saying how I'd do it. 700070;1401800838;xe4l;not very many elite 16 year olds these days 700071;1401800854;xe4l;eh you'd be surprised 700072;1401800857;Naphex;16:07 <+mircea_popescu> xe4l, nobody is going to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty thing << you don't burn exploits 700073;1401800860;xmj;I say it how I've seen it in countless incubators, coworking spaces, and the likes. 700074;1401800866;mircea_popescu;now this my nbe true, my experience is 2nd hand. 700075;1401800868;*;xe4l has had some z days 700076;1401800891;xe4l;it's not burning it if no one gets your exploit 700077;1401800902;Naphex;oh someone will 700078;1401800907;mircea_popescu;^ 700079;1401800916;xmj;mircea_popescu: how long do you usually ignore people? 700080;1401800926;mircea_popescu;talk about securing bitcoin being hard. 700081;1401801006;chetty;hey lets throw some spagetti at the wall and see if it sticks 700082;1401801071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0007991 = 13.9843 BTC [+] 700083;1401801385;Mats_cd03;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF-YBfnappM 700084;1401801386;assbot;Eminem - Mom's Spaghetti (remix) Original - YouTube 700085;1401801431;Mats_cd03;nvm this version sucks 700086;1401801806;bitcoinpete;;;rate usagi -5 milkman who can't back up .dat file. not to be trusted with coins. 700087;1401801807;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user usagi has been recorded. 700088;1401801850;fluffypony;heh 700089;1401801992;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: i got a kick out of those later comments on the bitcointalk thread 700090;1401802017;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/473818072474984448 700091;1401802018;assbot;Lol funny watching /UsagiMeijin get his eyes pumped shut on the forums. What did he expect? https://t.co/UFbfHZzZqW 700092;1401802054;fluffypony;lol 700093;1401802121;bitcoinpete;so i've asked him to make his requests public on the comments section of my blog 700094;1401802137;Mats_cd03;i dunno why any of you bother 700095;1401802143;bitcoinpete;we'll see if he follows through or if he wants to be be all plaintextprivate 700096;1401802162;Mats_cd03;dude's sipping mai tais and lolling at a laptop somewhere in bermuda 700097;1401802195;bitcoinpete;Mats_cd03: and we're sipping manhattans and lolling at him 700098;1401802200;bitcoinpete;so? 700099;1401802212;Mats_cd03;drama llama 700100;1401802230;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00080244 = 23.1504 BTC [+] {3} 700101;1401802261;Naphex;"Actually I have to admit I am a little suprised at the negativity I'm getting over this, it's as if people automatically assume every failure is intentional." 700102;1401802265;Naphex;lol 700103;1401802291;Apocalyptic;is that an usagi quote ? 700104;1401802304;Apocalyptic;could be Karpeles 700105;1401802312;Naphex;its probably both 700106;1401802316;Naphex;hehe 700107;1401802474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 321 @ 0.07144737 = 22.9346 BTC [-] {8} 700108;1401802548;Naphex;"give him all your money. maybe the next failure could be due to some rats chewing on the cables ??" i lol'd 700109;1401802569;fluffypony;thestringpuller: "Don't be a "fucking" retard, and watch your language with me." - lol, you have incurred the wrath of usagi! 700110;1401802603;fluffypony;"Do you want me to pull quotes from #bitcoin-assets too?" 700111;1401802613;fluffypony;usagi reads logs - HI USAGI! 700112;1401802633;Naphex;"This" makes me seem totally irresponsible. But here's the deal; we had regular, weekly, off-site backups. Even if someone got a hold of the backups they would be unable to take money out of the wallet without the password. And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup"" 700113;1401802637;Apocalyptic;so fluffypony is allegedly a scammer now 700114;1401802642;Apocalyptic;this is getting better and better... 700115;1401802643;Naphex;too bad they can just grab your walletpassphrase from your code lolol 700116;1401802653;Naphex;or your bash history file, or just listening to your tty 700117;1401802658;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: I'm hoping to join the honoured ranks 700118;1401802686;pankkake;where are those quotes from? 700119;1401802692;pankkake;;;gettrust usagi 700120;1401802693;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user pankkake to user usagi: Level 1: -2, Level 2: -3 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=pankkake&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012 700121;1401802703;Naphex;was readying the usagi thread 700122;1401802715;Naphex;reading* 700123;1401802801;mircea_popescu;!up princessnell 700124;1401802864;mircea_popescu; i dunno why any of you bother << cause their girlfriends have girlfriends of their own and so they get bored ? 700125;1401802912;princessnell;thx. morning all! 700126;1401802931;mircea_popescu;hey there. 700127;1401802958;princessnell;how goes it? 700128;1401802996;mircea_popescu;And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup"" << "... i classified it as off-site so it is in a sauna somewhere which is the highest security level there is." 700129;1401803042;fluffypony;"Did you know fluffypony is actually a well-known scammer who has ripped off dozens of people with his openrigs scam? I know -- what's he even doing here?" 700130;1401803050;fluffypony;lol 700131;1401803065;fluffypony;,,rate fluffypony -1 obviously I'm a well-known scammer 700132;1401803084;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.22 = 1.54 BTC [-] 700133;1401803088;Naphex;well you do live in africa ;]]] 700134;1401803103;fluffypony;I haven't even told you that I'm a Nigerian prince yet 700135;1401803107;fluffypony;I was saving that for later 700136;1401803113;Naphex;hehe 700137;1401803161;Naphex;the new RS7/A7 looks gorgeus 700138;1401803162;Naphex;http://www.drivearabia.com/news/2014/06/03/2015-audi-a7-s7-rs-7-revealed-with-minor-facelift-uae-saudi-ksa-qatar-gcc/ 700139;1401803162;assbot;2015 Audi A7, S7 & RS 7 revealed with minor facelift | Drive Arabia : Dubai / Abu Dhabi [UAE, Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman & GCC] 700140;1401803297;fluffypony;pretty 700141;1401803364;bitcoinpete;more and more robotic looking 700142;1401803374;bitcoinpete;more like ironman's mask 700143;1401803386;fluffypony;they're deploying the transformers, bitcoinpete 700144;1401803389;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 31 @ 0.02806454 = 0.87 BTC [-] {5} 700145;1401803450;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0276 = 0.3036 BTC [-] {2} 700146;1401803524;bitcoinpete;robots in disguise lol 700147;1401803570;mike_c;mircea_popescu:im officially addicted to http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ nao << perhaps I should add a credits system :) 700148;1401803571;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 700149;1401803619;fluffypony;lol! 700150;1401803624;fluffypony;paywall'd by mike_c 700151;1401803682;mike_c;hm.. all the #b-a blogs should charge the same credits, spend them to read the other blogs, get them when people read your blog. talk about a circle jerk. 700152;1401803694;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0737999 = 0.738 BTC [+] 700153;1401803755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0738 = 0.369 BTC [+] 700154;1401803873;mike_c;xmj:;;rate mircea_popescu -2 has no idea about lean startup strategy << wait, shouldn't that merit a positive rating? 700155;1401803912;xmj;mike_c: not if he dislikes my stating how it is. 700156;1401803922;princessnell;lol so many ~lean startup~ lemmings in mordor 700157;1401803950;xmj;mike_c: if he shits on me for stating how other people do (and fail at) it, then yes, that does deserve negative ratings. 700158;1401804015;mike_c;well, i'm not looking to reignite that silly argument. "bootstrap lean fail-fast pivot" is a joke. 700159;1401804202;asciilifeform;is 'lean startup' a new euphemism for 'starving artist' ? 700160;1401804230;chetty;lean does not have to = stupid. Sadly most of them are. 700161;1401804243;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00080433 = 5.8716 BTC [+] 700162;1401804250;princessnell;such a fuzzy buzzy term 700163;1401804326;Apocalyptic;asciilifeform, you may not be too far 700164;1401804392;bitcoinpete;princessnell: from your rt: my wife works in the same field as her dad and my mother works in a related field to hers. 700165;1401804443;bitcoinpete;http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-06/03/silk-road-study 700166;1401804443;assbot;Study claims Silk Road reduced drug-related violence (Wired UK) 700167;1401804509;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/felixjaehn/felix-jaehn-shine-feat-freddy-verano-linying-2 700168;1401804510;assbot;Felix Jaehn - Shine (feat. Freddy Verano & Linying) by Felix Jaehn on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 700169;1401804609;fluffypony;ok so let me tell you about my new startup: it's going to be a one-click backup service called iWalletBackup. It will let you use Siri via raise-to-talk to back all your wallets up to iCloud. It's being written in Swift and will use mongoDB as a backend. It can scale nearly instantly because it will just fire up new AWS instances on-demand. Our development methodology is fail-fast-fail-often, where we'll write an iteration, and then once that 700170;1401804609;fluffypony;code has failed in production we'll shut the startup down, start a new one, buy the old one out, and then repeat. We call this Multi Startup Synergistic Prefailure, and it's inspired by the work of Tsukino Usagi. 700171;1401804625;princessnell;bitcoinpete i almost did the same and went into law. dodged a bullet there! 700172;1401804713;bitcoinpete;princessnell lol you definitely did! 700173;1401804734;Mats_cd03;89baller 700174;1401804741;bitcoinpete;my choices were law and architecture 700175;1401804753;Mats_cd03;^ baller, that is 700176;1401804757;bitcoinpete;bitcoin combines a bit of both, i suppose 700177;1401804788;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: step 1. blog, step 2. ipo 700178;1401804797;princessnell;ha, ya, it does 700179;1401804804;princessnell;also, re silk road, i love it when i beat <3science<3 by a few months: http://theumlaut.com/2013/08/13/silk-road-as-a-self-regulating-black-market/ 700180;1401804805;assbot;Silk Road as a Self-Regulating Black Market | The mlaut 700181;1401804805;fluffypony;oh damn I forgot we need an IPO step for every failure 700182;1401804820;fluffypony;we're planning on monthly failure->IPO->buy out iterations 700183;1401804828;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Sidekick_data_loss 700184;1401804828;assbot;2009 Sidekick data loss - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 700185;1401804838;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: the ipo is only the most important part 700186;1401804842;bitcoinpete;it's where we get paid! 700187;1401804844;*;fluffypony feels ashamed 700188;1401804856;bitcoinpete;other than when we "forget to backup" 700189;1401804862;bitcoinpete;both = profit 700190;1401804864;fluffypony;as a KNOWN SCAMMER I should've known better 700191;1401804869;fluffypony;I have failed scammer-kind 700192;1401804880;bitcoinpete;ya why is openrigs still a private thing? 700193;1401804886;fluffypony;I have to commit scampukku 700194;1401804890;bitcoinpete;don't you want redditards to make money? 700195;1401804895;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/fkj-2/fkj-lying-together 700196;1401804896;assbot;FKJ - Lying Together by FKJ on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 700197;1401804907;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: I think I'm the world's worst scammer 700198;1401804932;fluffypony;you guys have seen this, right - http://coingen.io 700199;1401804933;assbot;Coingen 700200;1401804968;princessnell;o ya, made a sweet novelty coin for my pug 700201;1401804980;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: heard of things like that. $50 for a coin or w/e 700202;1401804989;fluffypony;so I think we should do IPOgen - it can create a website, a logo, an IPO forum post, and list you on CryptoStocks 700203;1401805034;jurov;i'd do IPO for cryptostocks relief fund 700204;1401805036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2219 @ 0.0000654 = 0.1451 BTC [-] {2} 700205;1401805039;jurov;and list it on CS, of course 700206;1401805044;fluffypony;and it could be recursive - the test of the code is that it must IPO itself 700207;1401805069;mike_c;coingen is how Altcoin was born 700208;1401805106;bitcoinpete;i don't think silbert could be any dumber: https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/473822123085950976 700209;1401805107;assbot;Exciting bitcoin possibilities too MT /Recode: What Apples Fingerprint ID Changes Mean for Its Big Mobile Payments http://t.co/Hx8fneUHbA 700210;1401805174;bitcoinpete;mike_c: didn't know that about altcoin… i don't know why i thought it was a costlier project 700211;1401805199;fluffypony;I think it's a great idea - your private key is made from your fingerprint. That way if you don't put your finger down *just* right you get a whole new privkey and can't access the old one till you figure out how you put your finger down previously 700212;1401805227;mike_c;cost != value :) 700213;1401805281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00080169 = 26.5359 BTC [-] {3} 700214;1401805489;fluffypony;Mats_cd03: just letting it run through the recommended tracks is actually pretty awesome, Sound Cloud has gotten better and better for discovering music 700215;1401805549;bitcoinpete;mike_c: of course, you're right :) 700216;1401805575;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: or you could have 10 privkeys, one per finger. max! 700217;1401805586;fluffypony;great idea! 700218;1401805603;bitcoinpete;this will cut down on blockchain bloat 700219;1401805615;bitcoinpete;and make it so that iphones can carry the full blockchain 700220;1401805663;fluffypony;well the other nice thing is the harder it is for people to retrieve their privkeys, the more likely they are to be lost forever 700221;1401805675;fluffypony;which increases the value of Bitcoin by reducing the supply 700222;1401805691;fluffypony;so really they'd only be doing themselves a favour 700223;1401805738;jurov;cut all dem fingerz 700224;1401805849;bitcoinpete;finger thieves will replace haxxors 700225;1401805864;bitcoinpete;less scared of nsa, more scared of shop class 700226;1401805890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4685 @ 0.00004 = 0.1874 BTC [-] 700227;1401806317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.21015158 = 1.6812 BTC [-] {8} 700228;1401806371;fluffypony;pankkake: we haven't discussed your fee yet, and u-saga wants to know how much we're paying you 700229;1401806378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 61 @ 0.20340599 = 12.4078 BTC [-] {14} 700230;1401806426;fluffypony;[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] 700231;1401806431;fluffypony;let me know if that's enough 700232;1401806439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-] 700233;1401806866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.0007991 = 15.6224 BTC [-] 700234;1401807720;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.025499 = 0.1275 BTC [+] {5} 700235;1401807799;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/drake-0-to-100 700236;1401807800;assbot;Drake ~ 0 to 100 / The Catch Up by octobersveryown on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 700237;1401807828;Mats_cd03;fun fact: drake is a canadian jew 700238;1401807842;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.025499 = 0.255 BTC [+] 700239;1401807903;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07100011 = 0.284 BTC [-] 700240;1401807964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0226 = 0.2034 BTC [+] 700241;1401808147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.216 BTC [+] 700242;1401808149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 247 @ 0.00060999 = 0.1507 BTC [-] 700243;1401808402;bitcoinpete;http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/06/02/bitcoin-startup-bitfurys-ceo-earlier-repped-notorious-market-ex-ua/ 700244;1401808402;assbot;Bitcoin Startup BitFury’s CEO Earlier Repped ‘Notorious Market’ Ex.ua - Venture Capital Dispatch - WSJ 700245;1401808408;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/adultjazz/spook-1 700246;1401808408;assbot;Spook by Adult Jazz on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 700247;1401808438;bitcoinpete;"He said that BitFury is slated to open the world’s largest data center aimed at producing bitcoin near Tbilisi. It will have electric power capacity of 20 megawatts" 700248;1401808442;bitcoinpete;$250 700249;1401808451;bitcoinpete;$250M valuation for bitfury 700250;1401808575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18670056 = 1.867 BTC [-] {4} 700251;1401808635;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6823 @ 0.00080433 = 5.4879 BTC [+] 700252;1401808757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0224 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2} 700253;1401808784;mike_c;!t h smg 700254;1401808785;assbot;[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00004000 / 4.833E-5 / 0.00006541 (7609 shares, 0.36772550 BTC), 7D: 0.00004000 / 4.921E-5 / 0.00007210 (8009 shares, 0.39413104 BTC), 30D: 0.00004000 / 6.26E-5 / 0.00009920 (22814 shares, 1.42811808 BTC) 700255;1401808898;mike_c;does nobody in here have a havelol account? i guess it's not worth picking up the bit-dime in arbitrage. 700256;1401809037;bitcoinpete;;;later tell jurov wondering if you can do transfer of s.mg from havelol to coinbr… 700257;1401809038;artifexd;mike_c: I have one. It's empty but it exists. What do you need? 700258;1401809038;gribble;The operation succeeded. 700259;1401809081;mike_c;well, i don't need anything. just saying there is arbitrage available between havelock smg passthrough and mpex. 700260;1401809110;mike_c;but transferring shares off havelock is prohibitively expensive, which is probably why nobody bothers. 700261;1401809241;artifexd;1BTC minimum fee per transfer?! 700262;1401809253;Mats_cd03;how long does it take for BB to deposit winnings following resolution 700263;1401809253;artifexd;Yeah. "Prohibitively expensive" is right. 700264;1401809330;mike_c;artifexd: so where does that leave the shares. owning a share of s.mg on havelock is only worth 50% as much as a share on mpex. crazy, huh. they are way overpricing those havelock shares :) 700265;1401809343;bitcoinpete;artifexd: blimey 700266;1401809411;mike_c;Mats_cd03: dunno, but i think less than a day in general. 700267;1401809498;Mats_cd03;http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june 2 days :( 700268;1401809498;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago 700269;1401809512;artifexd;You'd need over 25k shares to cover a 50% arb. There aren't that many shares for sell under .00009 on havelol. 700270;1401809718;bitcoinpete;https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ballmer-brings-cheer-competitiveness-clippers-164905128--finance.html 700271;1401809720;assbot;Ballmer brings cheer, competitiveness to Clippers - Yahoo Finance 700272;1401809728;bitcoinpete;cheer > racism 700273;1401809855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.20986614 = 3.3579 BTC [+] {6} 700274;1401810221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.00351102 = 0.2282 BTC [+] 700275;1401810251;mike_c;Mats_cd03: that one has already been paid out.. 700276;1401810448;Mats_cd03;mike_c: http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b58 i dont see the funds https://blockchain.info/address/17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR 700277;1401810448;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago 700278;1401810449;assbot;Bitcoin Address 17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR 700279;1401810485;bitcoinpete;huh 700280;1401810549;Mats_cd03;am i high and missing something 700281;1401810562;mike_c;i don't think you are. 700282;1401810567;bitcoinpete;no, none have been paid yet 700283;1401810602;Mats_cd03;ok 700284;1401810675;mike_c;well how the hell are you supposed to know that? it says it's been paid out. 700285;1401810693;mike_c;paging kakobrekla. 700286;1401810743;nubbins`;;;view 700287;1401810746;gribble;#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.03722 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 700288;1401810816;artifexd;nubbins`: How many orders have you received for those shirts? 700289;1401810824;nubbins`;8 shirts so far 700290;1401810948;bitstein;I may order one soon. That looks awesome. 700291;1401810978;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu paging kakobrekla. 700292;1401810979;gribble;The operation succeeded. 700293;1401810993;bitstein;This happened to me once: https://i.imgur.com/k7lRM00.jpg 700294;1401811002;mike_c;that's confusing. 700295;1401811139;bitcoinpete;bitstein: lol classic 700296;1401811197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.03262148 BTC to 8`452 shares, 24049 satoshi per share 700297;1401811201;nubbins`;see, i understand "check your bitcoin privilege" to have an opposite meaning to the general "check your privilege" 700298;1401811209;artifexd;So what are the "reasons that BTC is overwhelmingly white and male"? And why does "it matter"? 700299;1401811218;nubbins`;artifexd: don't ask us, ask her :D 700300;1401811231;artifexd;Is she in here? 700301;1401811240;nubbins`;she's on twitter 700302;1401811253;artifexd;Ich 700303;1401811278;*;nubbins` shrugs 700304;1401811380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.18625552 BTC [-] 700305;1401811518;chetty;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw 700306;1401811519;assbot;SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch 700307;1401811562;nubbins`;HEH 700308;1401811564;benkay;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw 700309;1401811565;assbot;SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch 700310;1401811577;benkay;i got up to share no fair 700311;1401811578;*;nubbins` shrugs 700312;1401811580;nubbins`;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw 700313;1401811580;assbot;SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch 700314;1401811586;fluffypony;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-charges-bitcoin-entrepreneur-for-share-offering-2014-06-03?mod=latestnewssocialflow&link=sfmw 700315;1401811587;assbot;SEC charges bitcoin entrepreneur for share offering - MarketWatch 700316;1401811589;nubbins`;hahaha 700317;1401811605;chetty;fluffypony, I beat you to it 700318;1401811617;fluffypony;chetty: I know, I was just trying to be cool like you guys 700319;1401811617;fluffypony;:-P 700320;1401811619;benkay;sec confirmed to be criminals, prosecuting people who do it all above board over the outright frauds 700321;1401811639;nubbins`;"Voorhees agreed to settle the charges by giving up the profits of $15,843.98 and paying a penalty of $35,000." 700322;1401811649;chetty;yeah, they are tryihng to look busy I guess, got to earn those bonus 700323;1401811659;nubbins`;VOORHEES AGREED TO FORK OVER 50BTC 700324;1401811664;*;nubbins` gasps at the horror 700325;1401811665;fluffypony;"giving up the profits of $15,843.98 and paying a penalty of $35,000" 700326;1401811671;fluffypony;oh ffs nubbins` 700327;1401811673;benkay;and in other, slightly related news, the creator of satoshi dice's daughter died in a plane crash 700328;1401811675;fluffypony;stop beating me to it 700329;1401811683;chetty;lmao 700330;1401811687;nubbins`;fluffypony: suid afrika needs fibre internet 700331;1401811689;fluffypony;lol 700332;1401811692;nubbins`;your bits are too slow 700333;1401811698;benkay;and you're running out 700334;1401811704;fluffypony;benkay: who created satoshi dice's daughter? 700335;1401811707;fluffypony;confused 700336;1401811721;fluffypony;oh - you mean the daughter of the satoshi dice creator 700337;1401811725;fluffypony;ffs my brain 700338;1401811738;benkay;i labored over the sentence for maximum confuse 700339;1401811742;mike_c;that must have been a great phone call. "Mr. Voorhees, give us 50 btc and it all goes away". "Uhh, seriously? Ok!" 700340;1401811747;jurov;bitcoinpete: that's question for havelol, not me, if they do s.mg transfers to mpex at all. 700341;1401811769;benkay;how did they come to the 15k number? 700342;1401811773;benkay;ipo raise in fiat? 700343;1401811779;nubbins`;who the fuck knows? 700344;1401811785;nubbins`;how did they come to $35k? 700345;1401811793;nubbins`;definitely took more money than that to get to this point 700346;1401811830;chetty;yeah it almost reads like a joke 700347;1401811837;nubbins`;"the sec is pleased to announce that it suffered a net loss of only $150,000 in securing mr voorhees' conviction" 700348;1401811849;nubbins`;maybe dr foreskin is their supervisor? 700349;1401811867;chetty;sec can't lose money, they just get more of yours 700350;1401811894;bitcoinpete;jurov: aok 700351;1401811910;nubbins`;well, not lose in the sense of "we can't find it" 700352;1401811933;nubbins`;more lose in the sense of "we paid a bunch of shitbags their wages for doing pointless work, and they blew their money on nail painting and chicken bowls" 700353;1401811945;Mats_cd03;this cathy doesnt get it 700354;1401811970;nubbins`;if she got it, she wouldn't work for motherboard 700355;1401811975;chetty;http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2014/33-9592.pdf 700356;1401812043;chetty;In anticipation of the institution of these proceedings, Respondent has submitted an Offer 700357;1401812043;chetty;of Settlement (the Offer) which the Commission has determined to accept 700358;1401812044;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=635317 700359;1401812045;assbot;Myth: the Payment Protocol is bad for privacy 700360;1401812105;fluffypony;reign of fire 700361;1401812117;fluffypony;"You wasted two years of time to develop this useless feature, while there were so much more important issues to address in the bitcoin software. 700362;1401812117;fluffypony;And here we are; few years later, the blocks are getting full and the only solution the bitcoin core lead dev has to address it, is still the same: we must increase the block size! " 700363;1401812138;chetty;At the time of the 700364;1401812138;chetty;SatoshiDICE 700365;1401812139;chetty;offerings, the USD value of the total 700366;1401812139;chetty;bitcoin 700367;1401812139;chetty;s 700368;1401812139;chetty;raised was 700369;1401812141;chetty;approximately 700370;1401812143;chetty;$ 700371;1401812145;chetty;7 700372;1401812147;chetty;22,659 700373;1401812149;chetty;. 700374;1401812151;chetty;In July 2013, 700375;1401812153;chetty;SatoshiDICE 700376;1401812153;fluffypony;much flood 700377;1401812155;chetty;bought back all outstanding SatoshiDICE sha 700378;1401812157;chetty;res from investors at a price of 0.0035 700379;1401812159;chetty;bitcoins per share 700380;1401812162;benkay;oh chetty 700381;1401812163;chetty;, 700382;1401812165;chetty;for a total of 45,500 bitcoins 700383;1401812167;chetty;. 700384;1401812168;benkay;lol that comma 700385;1401812169;chetty;D 700386;1401812171;chetty;ue to the significant rise in the exchange rate of 700387;1401812173;chetty;b 700388;1401812175;chetty;itcoin, the total USD amount paid to investors in the SatoshiDICE buy 700389;1401812177;chetty;- 700390;1401812179;chetty;back transaction 700391;1401812181;chetty;(approximately $3.8 mil 700392;1401812183;chetty;lion) exceeded the total USD amount raised 700393;1401812185;chetty;oops sorry 700394;1401812191;TomServo;What kind of retarded clipboard you runnin' over there? 700395;1401812199;chetty;darn pdfs, anyway thats the SEC filing on Eric 700396;1401812202;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/south-african-smart-meters-incorporate-bitcoin-prepaid-electricity/ you win! 700397;1401812203;assbot;Bitcoin Smart Meters Could Revolutionise How South Africans Pay for Power 700398;1401812269;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: nobody uses those fancy ones except in like brand new super-wealthy residential estates 700399;1401812271;fluffypony;we're still on post-paid 700400;1401812295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3980 @ 0.00080433 = 3.2012 BTC [+] 700401;1401812312;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: well, i just figured that with all the private jets... 700402;1401812320;fluffypony;lol 700403;1401812330;fluffypony;I like my electricity post-paid 700404;1401812362;chetty;paste bin isnt much better but for those non-pdf folks: http://pastebin.com/QDZhnsuh 700405;1401812362;assbot;UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Before the SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION SECU - Pastebin.com 700406;1401812363;bitcoinpete;like your womenz 700407;1401812381;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: exactly 700408;1401812408;bitcoinpete;and with that, i'm off for now. bbl fo sho 700409;1401812418;nubbins`;"The shares were listed on an entity known as the Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange (“GLBSE”), which purported to run a Bitcoin stock exchange." 700410;1401812419;nubbins`;lelel 700411;1401812423;danielpbarron;<+artifexd> So what are the "reasons that BTC is overwhelmingly white and male"? And why does "it matter"? << https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/473860965055078400 700412;1401812424;assbot;The worst thing is there's actually a case to be made. But this is extraordinarily ignorant. http://t.co/BCWxgWZKLp /ARStrasser /Antiwar2 700413;1401812453;chetty;The shares of SatoshiDICE were listed on MPEx, a 700414;1401812454;chetty;purported Bitcoin trading platform based in Romania 700415;1401812491;mike_c;who purported that? 700416;1401812654;fluffypony;the SEC couldn't get an official response because they're not in the WoT 700417;1401812655;nubbins`;[citation needed] 700418;1401812658;nubbins`;[who?] 700419;1401812659;nubbins`;etc 700420;1401812661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 62 @ 0.00351102 = 0.2177 BTC [+] 700421;1401812675;chetty;Respondent may pay by certified check, bank cashiers check, or United States postal 700422;1401812675;chetty;money order, made payable to the Securities and Exchange Commission and hand 700423;1401812675;chetty;- 700424;1401812675;chetty;delivered or mailed 700425;1401812675;chetty;to: 700426;1401812690;chetty;payment in USD not bitcoins 700427;1401812695;nubbins`;"hey guys, all i have is like 60k bitcoins... can i pay with these?" 700428;1401812744;BCB;http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370541972520#.U432_vk7u-0 700429;1401812745;assbot;SEC.gov | SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered Securities 700430;1401812784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00080681 = 4.9215 BTC [+] 700431;1401812799;chetty;oh and he isn't allowed to play for 5 years 700432;1401812812;fluffypony;YOU'RE GROUNDED 700433;1401812814;nubbins`;"The SEC’s investigation was conducted by Daphna A. Waxman, Daphne P. Downes, and Philip R. Moustakis of the New York Regional Office. Ms Waxman's contribution was particularly unimpressive; she has left the SEC to pursue other ventures." 700434;1401812819;artifexd;danielpbarron: Thanks, but I just notice that conversation is over 3 months old. Probably a little late to get into it with her. 700435;1401812897;danielpbarron;artifexd, lol so what? this is twitter 700436;1401812918;danielpbarron;conversations can take place over any time period, between any number of individuals, and with any number of forks and sub-topics 700437;1401812946;danielpbarron;it's not stupid facebook where all replies are a big wall of tldr; under the original post 700438;1401812966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1199 @ 0.00012426 = 0.149 BTC [+] {2} 700439;1401813000;princessnell;danielpbarron she won't respond. she did write an addendum, though: http://bitcoinwoman.com/index.php/bit-woman/stories/126-bitcoin-s-actual-privilege-problems-by-cathy-reisenwitz 700440;1401813001;assbot;Bitcoins Actual Privilege Problems by Cathy Reisenwitz 700441;1401813046;princessnell;basically women can't code cause patriarchy and that's bad, mmkay 700442;1401813088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02100011 = 0.21 BTC [-] 700443;1401813211;benkay;what a cloud war 700444;1401813213;benkay;my goodness 700445;1401813222;bitstein;Did she tell that to Ada Lovelace? 700446;1401813224;benkay;so a use case 700447;1401813260;nubbins`;i think the gist of that piece is "it behooves us all to get as many people as possible into bitcoin" 700448;1401813261;benkay;i have clients. they have applications and no employees running the applications. they have their own aws account, and their code gets provisioned onto that. 700449;1401813271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0738987 = 0.2217 BTC [-] 700450;1401813273;nubbins`;i'm not fully sure that that's a sound premise 700451;1401813280;benkay;but we're all derpy americans. 700452;1401813325;chetty;well women take absolute privilege - to never take responsibility and blame all on being women, or so they think 700453;1401813332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1403 @ 0.00016079 = 0.2256 BTC [+] {5} 700454;1401813372;bitstein;My issue is even if we were to assume that to be true, whining about it on Twitter and on blogs does nothing to solve the problem. If you want to address that, write software that makes Bitcoin easier to use and accessible to more people. If you can't code, learn a language and help translate. Essentially, do anything *but* whine on Twitter and your blog. 700455;1401813372;pankkake;it's weird to name yourself bitcoinwoman 700456;1401813379;pankkake;you're supposed to have a unique name 700457;1401813385;pankkake;there is only one bitcoin woman? 700458;1401813392;pankkake;well there is only one bitcoinpete 700459;1401813397;TomServo;wasn't there a wife too? 700460;1401813407;pankkake;other petes are forbidden from bitcoining 700461;1401813436;TomServo;thebitcoinwife.com 700462;1401813436;princessnell;nubbins' the gist of that piece is clickbait + feels 700463;1401813446;bitstein;There is "truebitcoingirl" - https://twitter.com/truebitcoingirl . princessnell is a phony. 700464;1401813448;assbot;Bitcoin Girl (TrueBitcoinGirl) auf Twitter 700465;1401813451;chetty;typical tard tho, blog and whine. Doing something takes work ya know 700466;1401813456;princessnell;pankkake there's a whole cottage industry of bitcoin lady #brands 700467;1401813499;nubbins`;i still think calling yourself "the bitcoin wife" is incredibly self-deprecating 700468;1401813501;nubbins`;but that's just me 700469;1401813503;chetty;and some of us (bitcoin women) are actually doing stuff even 700470;1401813533;nubbins`;^ 700471;1401813583;jurov;inb4 bitcoin grandma 700472;1401813598;danielpbarron;part of my argument comes from my belief in The Bible which clearly says that all women should submit to a man (whether their father or their husband) and they should only do something (like coding, for example) if their man ordered them to do so; it's not a very responsible man that delegates his programming needs to a woman (who is probably better suited for things like child-rearing (although exceptions may apply)) 700473;1401813603;TomServo;blowstampgrandma 700474;1401813607;jurov;(i can totally see something like that come from SA) 700475;1401813639;pankkake;I had no idea chetty was a bitcoin woman until a few weeks ago, which is how things should usually be on the internet 700476;1401813646;pankkake;nobody should know if you're a dog 700477;1401813653;pankkake;TomServo: lel 700478;1401813659;princessnell;i used to think to myself "well, these women are at least promoting the tech in a way that other women can understand." but they're only thinking of it as a consumption tool, which is worse than doing nothing at all. 700479;1401813699;chetty;well I don't make an issue of it, its not relevant 700480;1401813726;nubbins`;^ 700481;1401813747;princessnell;jurov http://bapka.com/grandma-bitcoin/ 700482;1401813820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.0001914 = 0.2871 BTC [+] 700483;1401813943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.02100011 = 0.714 BTC [-] 700484;1401813944;jurov;yup, polish bapka :) 700485;1401814150;fluffypony;I always figured this is pankkake - http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/disco-mann-4820691.jpg 700486;1401814169;pankkake;lol, not at all 700487;1401814174;fluffypony;:-P 700488;1401814209;pankkake;I am very boring looking 700489;1401814212;fluffypony;http://messynessychic.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/screen-shot-2011-04-05-at-04-23-43.png 700490;1401814370;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00080681 = 5.6073 BTC [+] 700491;1401814429;nubbins`;i did a portrait of pankkake once 700492;1401814430;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 87 @ 0.06220542 = 5.4119 BTC [-] {20} 700493;1401814433;nubbins`;forget where it ended up 700494;1401814494;pankkake;I didn't save it 700495;1401814599;fluffypony;pankkake: maybe BMF stands for "Backup My Funds" ? 700496;1401814602;fluffypony;:-P 700497;1401814659;pankkake;butt my fuck 700498;1401814669;pankkake;https://unsee.cc/mabozise/ for an actual drawing of me 700499;1401814670;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 700500;1401814701;fluffypony;"draw me like one of your French girls" ? 700501;1401814707;nubbins`;^ 700502;1401814716;nubbins`;"rapper 50 cent accepts btc for new album; refuses to change name" 700503;1401814734;pankkake;he would have to change his name every week 700504;1401814836;nubbins`;nah man 700505;1401814838;nubbins`;think in btc 700506;1401814859;nubbins`;the usd/cad value fluctuates all the time, but we still call him 50 cent here 700507;1401814910;pankkake;fifty bits? fithy satoshi? 700508;1401815039;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur 700509;1401815041;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 489.0, Best ask: 490.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 489.0, 24 hour volume: 130.59839747, 24 hour low: 455.00021, 24 hour high: 489.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.29561153 700510;1401815345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.03019968 = 0.1208 BTC [+] 700511;1401815589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.18334297 = 5.5003 BTC [-] {10} 700512;1401815737;chetty;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/277ohp/quick_statement_on_the_sec_erik_voorhees/ 700513;1401815737;assbot;Quick statement on the SEC - Erik Voorhees : Bitcoin 700514;1401815954;fluffypony;"Rune_And_You 0 points 4 minutes ago (1|0) 700515;1401815954;fluffypony;I think it's quite funny that a subreddit will end up becoming the center of the new financial reality. In a couple of years we'll have goldman sachs execs making sure to post all their bitcoin related announcements here. ;)" 700516;1401816189;pankkake;lol 700517;1401816565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02100011 = 0.105 BTC [-] 700518;1401817214;jurov;wait what, sec officially posted the communique to reddit? 700519;1401817381;fluffypony;no 700520;1401817384;fluffypony;Erik did 700521;1401817907;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19505 @ 0.00081801 = 15.9553 BTC [+] 700522;1401818811;Naphex;soo the sec investigators were named 700523;1401818819;Naphex;daphna and daphne? 700524;1401818823;Naphex;nice. 700525;1401818886;moiety;ya? well, I'm still CrazyBTCCatLady so no one forget that ok? 700526;1401818888;Naphex;http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370541972520#.U44N5qX6irw 700527;1401818889;assbot;SEC.gov | SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered Securities 700528;1401818895;*;moiety is reading the log btw 700529;1401818985;moiety;all these bitcoinwumins running around the place 700530;1401819277;mike_c;i don't know why everyone is so worried about women in bitcoin. the number of foreigners in bitcoin seems like a much bigger problem. 700531;1401819305;xmj;it does. 700532;1401819316;xmj;let's hate on all who do not reside in Luna Free Republic. 700533;1401819377;Mats_cd03;lets skip to the part where bitcoiners use kinetic weapons against the surface 700534;1401819432;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.19842742 = 2.778 BTC [+] {6} 700535;1401819433;benkay;lets skip to the part where various bitcoiners have their own nukes 700536;1401819445;benkay;also i have 6 hours of driving today: audiobook suggestions? 700537;1401819458;Mats_cd03;i like pimsleur if youre trying to listen to foreign language tapes 700538;1401819493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19856332 = 0.5957 BTC [+] {2} 700539;1401819528;jurov;let's skip to the part where bitcoiners have personal drivers 700540;1401819554;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4095 @ 0.00081801 = 3.3498 BTC [+] 700541;1401819597;benkay; let's skip to the part where bitcoiners have personal drivers // sign my poor ass up 700542;1401819999;moiety;jurov: 1. can i skip the personal drive and just have a manul instead? 2. was it me you were looking for earlier? 700543;1401820039;jurov;moiety yes, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2014#699435 700544;1401820039;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 700545;1401820166;moiety;ah thanks jurov, i'm reading backwards, which hasn't turned out to be the best plan 700546;1401820193;jurov;and yes, i'm sure someone in russia will exchange nukes for manuls 700547;1401820230;jurov;or orbital platforms 700548;1401820264;moiety;totally fine! I'm sure i have a couple spare lying around 700549;1401820272;Mats_cd03;is there anything you can't buy in russia 700550;1401820469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 589 @ 0.00046597 = 0.2745 BTC [-] {11} 700551;1401820531;thestringpuller;;;later tell nubbins` i misse you sorry 700552;1401820531;gribble;The operation succeeded. 700553;1401820552;thestringpuller;fluffypony: usagi thinks I'm shit talking him here when all I'm doing is stating the obvious 700554;1401820558;thestringpuller;MPCD out performed NYAN 700555;1401820576;thestringpuller;MPCD.A wasn't even insured but lost no value 700556;1401820626;moiety;Mats_cd03: Putin's acceptance. 700557;1401821018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [+] 700558;1401821079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07387999 = 0.5172 BTC [-] {3} 700559;1401821083;midnightmagic;our discussion centred on how you thought he was using a coinjoin'd transaction (re: "I taint the rich!" bitcointalk thread) to steal peoples' money or use the transaction as a historical proof that he had "access" to it in some form and thereby mislead less enlightened people for the purposes of loans or business shenanigans. 700560;1401821140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07389 = 0.2217 BTC [+] 700561;1401821141;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.199 = 1.791 BTC [+] 700562;1401821864;princessnell;http://www.businessinsider.com/vital-named-to-board-2014-5 700563;1401821864;assbot;VITAL Named To Board - Business Insider 700564;1401821872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07389 = 0.7389 BTC [+] 700565;1401822055;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02100011 = 0.126 BTC [-] 700566;1401822397;bitstein;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/03/mastercoin-maidsafe-crowdsale/ 700567;1401822398;assbot;The First 'Bitcoin 2.0' Kickstarter-like Campaign Was A Wildly Successful $7 Million Disaster - Forbes 700568;1401822421;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1000 @ 0.00030045 = 0.3005 BTC [+] {3} 700569;1401822482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4402 @ 0.00030201 = 1.3294 BTC [+] {2} 700570;1401822526;BingoBoingo;xmj: mircea_popescu maybe revists his ignore list annually... 700571;1401822543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07389 = 1.2561 BTC [+] 700572;1401822545;xmj;Ok 700573;1401822549;BingoBoingo;xmj: I'm also contemplating dedicated hardware for a simple wordpress blog. 700574;1401822555;xmj;mutual plonking, then.. 700575;1401822572;xmj;BingoBoingo: I'm not saying dedicated is better, or virtualized is better. 700576;1401822596;xmj;I'm describing my experience with startups, and they do not care one iot about buying hardware if they can just rent/lease 700577;1401822620;BingoBoingo;xmj: Well, it is a little hard to weld a VPS shut before you drive it to the colo rack. 700578;1401822646;xmj;why would you drive to the colo rack :p 700579;1401822671;xmj;get a minion to do that for you. 700580;1401822710;BingoBoingo;xmj: You drive there yourself so you can see if the place is somewhere you can comfortably park a server. 700581;1401822786;xmj;yeah, that's what you do the first time.. 700582;1401822790;mike_c;%t 700583;1401822791;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 185 Last Price: 143 24h-Vol: 144k High: 144 Low: 143 VWAP: 143 700584;1401822840;mike_c;hey mod6, how come atcbot won't talk to me in query? 700585;1401822871;BingoBoingo;xmj: How many times do you need to replace well configured setups anyway? 700586;1401822887;mod6;doesn't do priv chat 700587;1401822906;xmj;BingoBoingo: why replace when you can add :-) 700588;1401822909;mike_c;any reason? worried about spam or something? 700589;1401822918;benkay;http://www.mjfreeway.com/executive-team 700590;1401822920;assbot;Executive Team | MJ Freeway 700591;1401822933;xmj;BingoBoingo: seriously. i'm sure it's cheaper to have the server sent to the datacenter and hooked up by a technician 700592;1401822954;Naphex;is this the whole expensive thinking discussion again? 700593;1401822959;Naphex;its simple 700594;1401822967;xmj;no, this is opportunity costs and econ 101. 700595;1401822968;BingoBoingo;xmj: Why would adding happen at the same data center. "Rats Nest" is a perfectly defensible infrastructure strategy. 700596;1401822970;Naphex;if you need secure shit, or you want your data secure you don't use VPS 700597;1401822971;Naphex;period 700598;1401822989;Naphex;if you're working on any app that doesn't need that, host it wherever you like 700599;1401822992;Naphex;in ze cloud 700600;1401823172;*;BingoBoingo is thinking of Sun workstation case with rail kit, stuffed full of dev boards and ssds for "blog server", plastic stripped off, welded shut. 700601;1401823185;Naphex;sounds good! 700602;1401823336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07389913 = 3.695 BTC [+] {4} 700603;1401823351;BingoBoingo;Naphex: Basically, taking the "micro cloud" concept and adding a dash of shop class. Then when it's down to one functioning board and/or disk replacing the unit. 700604;1401823451;mod6;mike_c: yeah, i think that was the reasoning. 700605;1401823549;BingoBoingo;%book 700606;1401823550;atcbot;40k@205 0k@200 10k@185 | 22k@143 100k@141 250k@140 700607;1401823611;mod6;mike_c: I'll add that to the list of stuff. I'll let you know. 700608;1401823633;mike_c;cool. thanks. didn't there used to be a way to get 30day vol? 700609;1401823660;mod6;not that I remember... 700610;1401823683;mike_c;Apocalyptic: is 30day vol no longer available? or maybe it never was and i'm dreaming. 700611;1401823692;BingoBoingo;%diff 700612;1401823694;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 768307.81 in 858 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 329.60 700613;1401823728;Apocalyptic;mike_c, It never was 700614;1401823751;mike_c;ah, k. 700615;1401824129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.02999995 = 3 BTC [+] {2} 700616;1401824190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07398333 = 0.8878 BTC [+] {2} 700617;1401824209;moiety;fluffypony: http://www.macpages.ru/sites/default/files/img02/macosxsnowleorapd.jpg i think we can all see this is the way forward for mac people? 700618;1401824223;fluffypony;HAH AHAH AHAHAHA 700619;1401824227;fluffypony;omg that's brilliant 700620;1401824239;Apocalyptic;^ 700621;1401824251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] 700622;1401824272;moiety;:D i may need a bit of help from asciilifeform buti have a feeling it says "pet the OS, bitch" 700623;1401824312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.07979516 = 1.9949 BTC [+] {3} 700624;1401824373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00184866 = 0.1571 BTC [+] 700625;1401824384;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Is it just me or did Apple just rip of Xfce for Yosemite? 700626;1401824425;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: "you'll notice the gorgeous translucency on this window" 700627;1401824493;BingoBoingo;Oh, the logs. I'm catching up on. Looks like MP isn't getting extradited over S.DICE after all. 700628;1401824501;fluffypony;heh heh 700629;1401824512;mike_c;he didn't even have to kick in for the fine. 700630;1401824516;BingoBoingo;Erik got burned for using GLBSE, and... that's it 700631;1401824537;Naphex;https://imgur.com/a/Kj1oD so this is how a good scaled and tought out solution will look like if you planned stuff early 700632;1401824537;assbot;good scaled hardware - Imgur 700633;1401824546;Naphex;thats probably enough free space to scale for another 3 years 700634;1401824568;Naphex;while running nicely very fast and not on stressed hardware 700635;1401824585;Naphex;it will rape 2 days max of your time and insure you have a stable performant solution 700636;1401824589;BingoBoingo;Naphex: Let us not forget relaxed hardware lasts longer as well 700637;1401824592;Naphex;to serve those almighty precious customers 700638;1401824625;Naphex;the cost of that should be small enough for any decently running bussiness to aford 700639;1401824637;Naphex;and will have insanely higher reliability /performance then any cloud delivery 700640;1401824829;Naphex;https://i.imgur.com/YhddPNq.png a look on yearly average. peaks is attack and wall cliffs are optimizations 700641;1401824976;BingoBoingo;I still can't believe the SEC implicitly offered MPEx such a glowing endorsement today. 700642;1401825020;diametric;okay so i preordered this xapo. 700643;1401825023;diametric;someone tell me how terrible it is 700644;1401825122;BingoBoingo;diametric: Is that the one with the underground bunker? 700645;1401825133;diametric;The "Vault", yeah. 700646;1401825147;diametric;I should say I preordered the Xapo debit card wallet product. 700647;1401825175;Naphex;did they deliver? 700648;1401825235;diametric;Well, I just "pre-ordered" it now, though I have yet to deposit or pay for anything. 700649;1401825249;diametric;in fact, I got a whole 5k satoshis free with my account 700650;1401825253;diametric;i'm rolling in it now 700651;1401825307;Naphex;5k satoshis 700652;1401825308;Naphex;wow 700653;1401825326;Naphex;those like 2 free timely confirmations? 700654;1401825365;diametric;yeah! 700655;1401825426;diametric;I can get myself another 2K satoshis if I allow them these simple permissions to my Twitter: http://i.imgur.com/N6NmeAg.png 700656;1401825451;Naphex;why do they care about your twitter? 700657;1401825461;diametric;See the permissions it grants? they can basically spam as me. 700658;1401825479;diametric;As tempting as 2K SAT is, I'll pass. 700659;1401825484;Naphex;oh cool, so you don't already spam your friends about bitcoin? 700660;1401825515;Naphex;lol i gotta cheer up 700661;1401825778;fluffypony;"I can’t tell if the altcoin people are trying to deliberately scam people or just not thinking ahead to the logical conclusions of these schemes. They’re trying to hit another bubble. They regret not buying Bitcoin when they could have. So they want to replay it. It’s like replaying a childhood trauma to overcome it but you just make it worse." 700662;1401825783;fluffypony;that is my new favourite quote 700663;1401825799;mike_c;was that from pankkake? 700664;1401825919;fluffypony;no 700665;1401825928;fluffypony;Daniel Krawisz 700666;1401825948;fluffypony;the dude that wrote the "appcoins are fraudulent" article 700667;1401825963;Naphex;price needs to rise by bubbling up, to match demand though 700668;1401825971;Naphex;and too make the market available for bigger guys 700669;1401825985;Naphex;i want 100 mil of awesome bitcoins tomorrow 700670;1401826234;moiety;https://vine.co/v/M6hOQ9EJlQY 700671;1401826235;assbot;Dogs on Cinco De Mayo be like (Full version on my Instagram: moemamba) #salsa #cincodemayo 700672;1401826236;pankkake;well, it's the obvious. altcoiners want to be early adopters 700673;1401826260;pankkake;and altcoins are easier than time machines 700674;1401826275;fluffypony;;;gettrust assbot los_pantalones 700675;1401826275;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user los_pantalones: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=los_pantalones | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=los_pantalones | Rated since: Thu Apr 24 17:43:40 2014 700676;1401826301;moiety;jurov: are you guys really wanting me to call missouri?! 700677;1401826323;BingoBoingo;moiety: I believe so. 700678;1401826324;pankkake;who's missouri? 700679;1401826329;moiety;thought i had best check before doing it and you allbeing like, nooooo! 700680;1401826347;BingoBoingo;moiety: Just make sure to call from -assets hotline 700681;1401826358;jurov;moiety why not? 700682;1401826423;fluffypony;moiety: I loaded funds into Skype so you can call out as well as receive calls 700683;1401826435;Naphex;you guys want to hear something funny, youtube is probably the best place to advertise to engage bitcoin related / seeking audience ;o 700684;1401826439;Naphex;i am surprised 700685;1401826597;moiety;anything specific anyone wants me to say? 700686;1401826609;thestringpuller;sex weeks 700687;1401826619;fluffypony;seconded 700688;1401826677;moiety;lol i can't say that 700689;1401826686;moiety;ok i'll try and work it in 700690;1401826696;fluffypony;hah hah 700691;1401826711;jurov;say you;re interested about mpex stock exchange 700692;1401826732;jurov;if it's legal, if it should be reported to irs 700693;1401826755;*;moiety nods :] 700694;1401826785;moiety;can i finish with something about manuls? 700695;1401826788;moiety;kidding!! 700696;1401826811;jurov;if they start to be chatty, feel free :) 700697;1401826841;jurov;oh and if they know where else one can invest bitcoins in accord to all regulations and proper 700698;1401826964;BingoBoingo;moiety: Tell them you are looking forward to football this season and finish with a chant of M-I-Z. They should respond with Z-O-U. If they don't offer that response it is a reportable offense. 700699;1401827033;BingoBoingo;Also feel free to discuss any mutual dislike you and the corresponding party might share about Kansas (Quantrill should have burned it all). 700700;1401827283;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.msg7093916#msg7093916 700701;1401827283;assbot;[ANN] [NAUT] Nautiluscoin - First Coin w/Stabilization Fund - Digishield 700702;1401827315;fluffypony;"Step 1. Build a Community. Step 2: Merchant Acceptance. Step 3: Oh, this is where we hire developers." 700703;1401827341;pankkake;stabilization fund :| 700704;1401827383;fluffypony;pankkake: I'll have you know, it was created by a CNBC contributor, so therefore. 700705;1401827452;mike_c;Altcoin is the best altcoin because the core dev hates altcoins. 700706;1401827483;fluffypony;SEE the power of the stabilisation fund: https://www.mintpal.com/market/NAUT/BTC 700707;1401827488;fluffypony;switch to Max zoom 700708;1401827504;fluffypony;and you can see how perfectly stable it is 700709;1401827590;punkman;that's a lot of log today 700710;1401827595;punkman;hello 700711;1401827620;punkman;mike_c: altcoin has a core dev? 700712;1401827662;mike_c;yes, but he won't admit to it (pankkake) 700713;1401827675;pankkake;call it a guy who made commits 700714;1401827681;pankkake;I'm Bernankoin's core dev though 700715;1401827723;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-sec-bares-its-gums-and-settles-with-erik/ 700716;1401827840;punkman;%diff 700717;1401827842;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 780964.62 in 803 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 336.68 700718;1401827911;BingoBoingo;http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3602771 700719;1401827912;assbot;Bitcoin Securities Issuer Settles with SEC - Slashdot 700720;1401828014;BingoBoingo;Fuck it, might as well try this again. Got to beat Coindesk et al on this subject. 700721;1401828094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.18305816 BTC [-] 700722;1401828095;jurov; youtube - sauce? 700723;1401828138;Naphex;jurov: adwords/analytics for btcxchange.ro 700724;1401828155;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.18084523 = 5.2445 BTC [-] {15} 700725;1401828175;jurov;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEtsPfQtjW8 from this or some other vid? 700726;1401828175;assbot;Cumpr Bitcoin prin intermediul btcXchange - YouTube 700727;1401828194;Naphex;jurov: no, google placement ads 700728;1401828221;jurov;hm interesting 700729;1401828255;Naphex;a lot of interest in tutorial videos 700730;1401828258;Naphex;so easy to engage audience 700731;1401828270;Naphex;miners will look for miners, etc 700732;1401828292;Naphex;also it is relativly cheap at 0.14eur/click 700733;1401828294;los_pantalones;yeah! 700734;1401828296;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/473928096324665344 700735;1401828297;assbot;Trying this again, been a while http://t.co/EaicbSjV6f /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash 700736;1401828336;diametric;jurov: http://micropython.org/ re: the conversation yesterday. is only there had been a lisp machine like this 700737;1401828337;assbot;Micro Python - Python for microcontrollers 700738;1401828391;jurov;nah, trabant 700739;1401828404;BingoBoingo;diametric: Why did they just go for a board and not a workstation? 700740;1401828473;jurov;BingoBoingo: you prolly don't understand the appeal of such tiny machines 700741;1401828501;jurov;people want to do things on rpi just coz it's cute 700742;1401828508;BingoBoingo;jurov: Tiny machines exist only to assemble into large machines. Tiny machines are to easy to lose. 700743;1401828520;BingoBoingo;They get buried under large machines. 700744;1401828545;jurov;i was like "bitcoind node? onoes, just buy miniitx celeron and reuse old hdd" 700745;1401828571;jurov;they were like "but i must do it on piiii" 700746;1401828672;jurov;tinkerers and people who know how to do things right are such incredibly disjoint groups 700747;1401828688;BingoBoingo;Pi ought to be thing real computers eat. 700748;1401828688;jurov;that manu of the former never learn about the latter 700749;1401828694;jurov;*many 700750;1401828802;jurov;i'm not sure if it is similar on non-IT hobbies (maybe except audiophiles) 700751;1401829032;BingoBoingo;If Pi wasn't ARM, it might be a decent upgrade for a compact Mac case, but not much else 700752;1401829206;jurov;Tiny machines are to easy to lose. << your btc wallet is a semitrailer i guess? 700753;1401829300;BingoBoingo;jurov: One possibility. Other is maybe a controlled form of lost 700754;1401829545;BingoBoingo;jurov: Also who said anything about wallet being a machine? 700755;1401829581;jurov;paper wallet shouldn't be easy to lose either 700756;1401829600;*;jurov imagines stone megalith wallet 700757;1401829638;BingoBoingo;Maybe stone, maybe paper, maybe vintage green uranium glass used for consuming whiskey on special occasions... 700758;1401830740;BingoBoingo;moiety: When your phone call is over http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-problem-with-apple/ has Manul 700759;1401830741;assbot;The Problem with Apple | Bingo Blog 700760;1401831363;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 700761;1401831370;gribble;Current Blocks: 304076 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 339 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 1 minute, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11657191762.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.49105 700762;1401831463;BingoBoingo;And the last two days "No" on Bastille Day got very dangerous again. 700763;1401831506;Mats_cd03;;;ticker 700764;1401831507;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 668.57, Best ask: 670.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.43000, Last trade: 670.0, 24 hour volume: 17618.68361236, 24 hour low: 649.61, 24 hour high: 680.99, 24 hour vwap: 665.876747446 700765;1401831539;mike_c;big spike in nethash last couple hundred blocks 700766;1401831602;BingoBoingo;I'm hoping Knc, "board can have problems too" kind of nethash 700767;1401831728;mike_c;it is truly amazing how it keeps doubling 700768;1401831728;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 700769;1401831840;mike_c;x.idiff.jun could be at management's discretion.. next diff bump may well be on settlement day. 700770;1401832356;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 700771;1401832362;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 667.1, vol: 17537.18824609 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 656.0, vol: 10303.8218 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 668.0, vol: 25046.49650475 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 679.9, vol: 43.63450786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 663.895206, vol: 6963.03280000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 668.40406, vol: 19.58697317 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 667.772, vol: 112.92914708 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 700772;1401832363;BingoBoingo;;;more 700773;1401832363;gribble;665.209412526 700774;1401832547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0205 = 0.1025 BTC [-] 700775;1401832548;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19753357 = 0.7901 BTC [+] {2} 700776;1401832608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19957174 = 1.1974 BTC [+] {4} 700777;1401832610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00186777 = 0.1121 BTC [+] 700778;1401832855;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/taosecurity/status/473938787106430976 700779;1401832856;assbot;If DARPA had insurgents fire anti-tank weapons at the autonomous vehicles in their land challenge, it would give them an idea about /hashtag/cyber?src=hash. 700780;1401832932;BingoBoingo;From ozbot in exile https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdpwmewdyk1r1z9vzo1_1280.jpg 700781;1401833035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0235103 = 0.2351 BTC [-] 700782;1401833096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0235102 = 0.3291 BTC [-] 700783;1401833097;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.02026 = 0.2836 BTC [-] 700784;1401833157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07000211 = 0.14 BTC [+] {2} 700785;1401833219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.02026 = 2.492 BTC [-] {4} 700786;1401833221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00086158 = 17.2316 BTC [-] {2} 700787;1401833227;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/lifestyle-modified/ 700788;1401833227;assbot;Patient's Modified Lifestyle Kills Doctor | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 700789;1401833294;BingoBoingo;^ The story of -assets 700790;1401833340;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00085865 = 17.3018 BTC [-] {2} 700791;1401834561;moiety;D; they won't answer to meeeee 700792;1401834601;moiety;but i did realise i'm probably not within their hours now, will try again tomorrow 700793;1401834621;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0235102 = 0.2586 BTC [-] 700794;1401834766;asciilifeform;jurov: the 'pi' would be neat if it actually... worked. (entirely aside from the evil closed blob running at all times.) try, for instance, using ethernet and usb at full throttle on your unit, see what happens. 700795;1401834804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0205 = 0.2255 BTC [+] {3} 700796;1401834841;moiety;BingoBoingo!! most epic blog post is epic! I'm reposting! 700797;1401834959;asciilifeform;jurov: i've a small collection of various cheapo 'arm' boards, just like everyone. the 'pi' collects dust. did recently get openbsd running on another one (beagle?) recently. 700798;1401834996;Mats_cd03;cool 700799;1401835004;asciilifeform;still quite useless - they all have ridiculously slow bus 700800;1401835048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.021 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2} 700801;1401835073;asciilifeform;'real' microcontrollers are far more interesting. the proliferation of the cheap arm boards is really because today's hobbyists piss their pants at the thought of learning asm 700802;1401835092;jurov;i'm using pi just as an illustration that people you may want to get interested in lisp start by getting emotionally hooked onto coding, regardless of what's available being utter crap 700803;1401835096;asciilifeform;(a 'traditional' micro has a few kb of ram) 700804;1401835136;jurov;and then continue on the trajectory, never even getting to know there's something better 700805;1401835229;asciilifeform;jurov: clisp builds on arm. but sbcl doesn't (the latter has no interpreter mode, it has a high quality optimizing - real time - compiler on x86 and a few other archs.) 700806;1401835317;asciilifeform;lisp on a microcontroller that isn't optimized for high-level languages (a la the greenarrays forth chip) isn't much fun. it's like going back to the mid-80s, when microcomputer owners justifiably scoffed at 'slow' languages 700807;1401835331;jurov;python isn't either 700808;1401835361;asciilifeform;the python linked earlier (diametric?) isn't a proper python, where the interpreter is available at run time, but, as i understand, a simple batch-mode compiler. 700809;1401835373;asciilifeform;(anyone who read the entire manual, please correct me if i am mistaken) 700810;1401835392;jurov;idk, it boasts "REPL in 2K RAM" 700811;1401835442;jurov;but this discussion is getting derailed again anyway 700812;1401835464;asciilifeform;if they actually fit a python in 2kb, that's pretty neat. 700813;1401835658;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07966853 = 0.239 BTC [+] 700814;1401835683;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, jurov: stone megalith wallet << if you buy a laser cutter, you can make actual stone wallet. 700815;1401835725;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Traditional "bastard" file cuts stone well enough 700816;1401835736;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: that sounds too much like work 700817;1401835756;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Not if you carve in a shorthand 700818;1401835780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07969954 = 4.9414 BTC [+] {2} 700819;1401835781;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8422 @ 0.0008571 = 7.2185 BTC [-] 700820;1401835884;*;punkman is thinking 1BTC coins made of 10kg marble slabs 700821;1401835902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07979979 = 0.2394 BTC [+] 700822;1401835934;BingoBoingo;moiety: You have to remember you have blog too nao. 700823;1401835963;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07979984 = 0.3192 BTC [+] {2} 700824;1401835992;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i don't really get the fixation with 'physical bitcoins.' care to try explaining ? 700825;1401836013;asciilifeform;it inescapably reminds me of the 1890s autos with reins 700826;1401836024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0799 = 0.3995 BTC [+] 700827;1401836130;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'm not too sure about it either. I like the idea that they mean an intruder would have to scour my junk in addition to the computing and electronic equipment. People who pay for manufactered solutions and their reasoning elludes me. Maybe the husk of a Cascius has some collectible value? 700828;1401836188;dub;similar(ly stupid) ideas about spending them after fiat collapses as metals probably, libertardation 700829;1401836196;BingoBoingo;Any thing physical I may or may not do with individual private keys would probably be part of a rats nest strategy to avoid ever being completely robbed. 700830;1401836226;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this is not unlike the psychology of the folks who buy books on 'how to hide things' 700831;1401836250;asciilifeform;(which, if read literally, amount to a 'what not to do') 700832;1401836268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2} 700833;1401836269;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0008571 = 6.7711 BTC [-] 700834;1401836357;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Seems that way. I dunno why properly concealed physically stored private key could not be a viable option for the post-rectothermal healthcare fund. 700835;1401836406;mike_c;would not rectothermal analysis provide the location of the stored key? 700836;1401836409;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the typical rectothermal session involves separation from one's worldly goods 700837;1401836451;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00085673 = 4.2837 BTC [-] {2} 700838;1401836454;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: No reason physical key of last resort need be within a hundred miles of anywhere you live or frequent 700839;1401836460;BingoBoingo;if properly concealed 700840;1401836634;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] 700841;1401836719;BingoBoingo;New risks of loss are introduced, but... The scenario in which it would be useful is different as well. 700842;1401836796;jurov;http://mivoltma.444.hu/assets/sites/23/2014/05/kuczynskigif1-animated.gif 700843;1401836878;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.02109458 = 0.5274 BTC [+] {8} 700844;1401836935;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: seems to me like the physical hiding place approach suffers from the same problems as 'brainwallet.' 700845;1401836939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00086456 = 25.4181 BTC [+] {2} 700846;1401836993;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Definitely in terms of "wallet mining" 700847;1401837045;asciilifeform;a successfully 'mined' brainwallet is... a failed iq test. 700848;1401837138;BingoBoingo;And then there's also the problem of "place can have problems too" 700849;1401837218;asciilifeform;if herr torquemada is working on you, your wallet is lost, regardless of what kind (only real countermeasure is cyanide tooth or the like.) 700850;1401837383;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Tooth must be dangerously fragile though, so one can have a standoff end with a swift movement of the tongue. 700851;1401837407;asciilifeform;actually, one possible technological countermeasure is: to carry around some gizmo that will transmit a transaction moving your coin to a trusted confederate, when the pin is pulled. 700852;1401837427;asciilifeform;easier said than done, though. 700853;1401837577;asciilifeform;(if you actually want to do this: have multiple allies, shamir-split a key, then set 'dead man switch' that broadcasts the magic tx if you fail to reset it for x days, etc) 700854;1401838037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 700855;1401838075;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Even if that isn't what's actually done, that may be the best thing to have people believe is being done. 700856;1401838115;asciilifeform;[insert standard discussion of the game theory of nuclear war by schelling & friends here.] 700857;1401838195;moiety;BingoBoingo: moiety: You have to remember you have blog too nao. << it's not mine though, I might start one, i'm seeing more things all the time i'd like to collate together 700858;1401838211;asciilifeform;i'll point out that it helps to have a clear picture of what your objective will be once you're hanging upside-down in torquemada's workshop. 700859;1401838258;asciilifeform;is it to persuade him to turn you loose? to transfer your coin to your fellow partizans asap, because you are certain to perish anyway? some other goal? 700860;1401838312;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Reasonable option seems to be dead man switch sends the coins to Mugabe 700861;1401838330;asciilifeform;the 'only winning move,' of course, is 'not to play' - reducing your chances of ending up in that position in the first place, through convincing deterrent (or quick legs!) 700862;1401838352;jurov;turnig yourself in preventively to the right party 700863;1401838384;asciilifeform;the fine art of surrender. 700864;1401838407;asciilifeform;[insert obligatory barb at the french here] 700865;1401838444;BingoBoingo;You die, coins go to party inquisitor finds despicable. Simply hope the CIA isn't a frenemy of theirs and wants to fund them. 700866;1401838477;asciilifeform;there's definitely room for a 'dead hand' service/product. 700867;1401838503;asciilifeform;;;google dead hand 700868;1401838504;gribble;Dead Hand (nuclear war) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Dead Hand - Zelda Wiki: ; Inside the Apocalyptic Soviet Doomsday Machine - Wired: 700869;1401838512;BingoBoingo;There's also the possiblity of multiple inquistors over time. 700870;1401838520;BingoBoingo;With varying aims. 700871;1401838525;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12631 @ 0.00086494 = 10.9251 BTC [+] 700872;1401838580;punkman;asciilifeform: you mean like this? http://www.deadmansswitch.net/ 700873;1401838581;assbot;Dead Man's Switch 700874;1401838591;*;asciilifeform automatically recalls an ancient sf story about a very unlucky immortal fellow, who goes from dungeon to dungeon, ending up at torquemada's, the gestapo, on and on... 700875;1401838634;jurov;BingoBoingo you're preparing for the PARC or whatever colombia revolutionary movement encounter? 700876;1401838684;BingoBoingo;jurov: Not impossible that I am. 700877;1401838696;*;BingoBoingo should probably practice running 700878;1401838708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1486 BTC [-] 700879;1401838709;jurov;i'm not sure they'll understand fine points of such complicated strategy as "i die, money goes to cia" 700880;1401838761;jurov;"okay, we'll use your corpse to extort cia" 700881;1401838776;asciilifeform;think of how funny it'd be, setting up elaborate dead man switch, then captured by a fellow who just wants to sell your organs. 700882;1401838892;jurov;or slipping up home in the bathroom 700883;1401838940;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I think at that point you have to play the Hannibal card and try purchasing organs yourself. 700884;1401838963;BingoBoingo;I'm also rather sure my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar 700885;1401838975;asciilifeform;deterrence weapon naturally doesn't make you immortal - the best possible use of it is to cool the enthusiasm of folks who'd like to hasten the inevitable. 700886;1401839110;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: There was this Simpsons episode back in the day where it was revealed the elderly hero had the gift of immortality to the sheer number of terminal diseases he had forming a sort of homeostasis sustaining him. 700887;1401839157;asciilifeform;my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar << the 'i own just the shirt on my back' defense worked pretty well historically. if the enemy finds it convincing. 700888;1401839205;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'll have to manage to keep a thick stench of cigarettes and booze sweat through the Darien. 700889;1401839287;asciilifeform;however, the reason why it is customary to sit a captured wretch on an anthill, or the like, without first inquiring about his assets, is that in such a situation the definition of 'assets' expands to everything the victim could potentially beg/borrow/steal 700890;1401839300;asciilifeform;as described in an old book, 'how to collect illegal debts' (actual title) 700891;1401839318;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0202522 = 0.2025 BTC [-] {2} 700892;1401839375;moiety;asciilifeform: there's more music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAP0h9Yl_hc // also, I have been playing with the microwriter emulator :D 700893;1401839375;assbot; - YouTube 700894;1401839380;BingoBoingo;I'd suck if they sent me back to 'Murica full of cocaine baloons 700895;1401839432;moiety;here, booze sweat is just a beer jacket: keeps you warm but it's not warm enough to sweat 700896;1401839467;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: in the textbook 'rectothermal cryptoanalysis' of '90s russia, the purpose of the soldering iron was typically to help the 'patient'... 'remember' not only the locations of hidden goodies, but also places where he might yet be able to borrow/steal. 700897;1401839560;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Assuming they don't want library books... Probably going to get drafted as a drug mule. 700898;1401839610;asciilifeform;i'd assume that a 'mule' gets an (unarmed) 'helper,' who ensures that he can't cough up the payload ahead of schedule. 700899;1401839751;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'd assume so as well. Probably also a reception party. 700900;1401839866;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: Help spread the love http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3602771 700901;1401839867;assbot;Bitcoin Securities Issuer Settles with SEC - Slashdot 700902;1401840011;asciilifeform;moiety: the emulator is a very ragged toy. the actual gadget works considerably better. 700903;1401840079;asciilifeform;at some point i'll get around to selling the actual microwriter 700904;1401840084;asciilifeform;(not much use for it here) 700905;1401840106;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/473977662294081537 700906;1401840108;assbot;SEC, Voorhees, etc. http://t.co/AZIAh29FsN via /BBoingo 700907;1401840138;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: Thanks. Got to beat Coindesk to the aggragators 700908;1401840168;BingoBoingo;moiety: I'm guessing you aren't familiar serious humidity. 700909;1401840202;bitcoinpete;np 700910;1401840266;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: You seem to have the stronger social media presence 700911;1401840345;asciilifeform;taking joy in having 'strong social media presence' would be rather like rejoicing in living next to a swamp, to have 'strong mosquito presence' 700912;1401840389;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: lol seem? i'm happy to help :) 700913;1401840412;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It isn't that there is benefit derived from it. It is that when we can beat the Coindesks to the aggregators, it injures them in ways only they can rationalize. 700914;1401840450;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: Well, I'm gifting you that Canadian modesty. 700915;1401840502;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: there's most certainly benefit derived from twitter and west nile isn't the half of it 700916;1401840506;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. 700917;1401840539;bitcoinpete;not saying it's much of a benefit… just non-zero 700918;1401840558;asciilifeform;think back to the purpose of the phoundation. 700919;1401840613;asciilifeform;or the myriad 'tame' seekoority blogs, which studiously avoid mention of nsa, etc. 700920;1401840706;moiety;BingoBoingo: not really, I don't think thailand for a fortnight, hopping from aircon to aircon counts lol 700921;1401840735;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I remember that time quite a while back when, maybe it was accident on your part, but you loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists with your hypercard post. 700922;1401840775;*;BingoBoingo realized this week he had indeed run into Loper well before -assets 700923;1401840806;BingoBoingo;Digging through archives I found hypercard setup VM exactly as asciilifeform described 700924;1401840899;moiety;asciilifeform: what should a microwriter cost now (approx)? 700925;1401841287;asciilifeform;moiety: no clue. got mine on ebay a few yrs back for about 100 usd 700926;1401841303;asciilifeform;moiety: it's rare enough that there is no ready source for it 700927;1401841329;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists << that might've been 'non-apple's mistake' 700928;1401841444;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, the VM's name was one of the library school classes, so maybe I did the loosening during a presentation in a technology class. 700929;1401841479;moiety;you get modern usb ones :o i think the older ones look nicer though.definitely one for the collection 700930;1401841529;BingoBoingo;This was a crowd of the sort where "technology"=="social media" 700931;1401841530;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 58(Y):42(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.02379439 BTC. Current weight: 90,188. 700932;1401841532;nubbins`;BingoBoingo: i actually had wondered why $15k plus damages -- didn't realize until you pointed out that they didn't touch s.dice 700933;1401841540;nubbins`;ty 700934;1401841571;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: You're welcome. I mean the summaries suck when the ignore the SEC's endorsement of MPEx in the actual filing. 700935;1401841593;nubbins`;well, you're one upvote closer to the front page 700936;1401841636;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00086494 = 4.5842 BTC [+] 700937;1401841661;*;BingoBoingo remembers the project as "present what three vendors have in the way of tools for advancing technology education" 700938;1401841810;*;BingoBoingo presented OS 7.5.1 with Hypercard, lynx, and Sun Ultra 80. 700939;1401841830;bloctoc;Financial Times has a paragraph today on mpex, alongside the SEC story on Erik Vorhees. 700940;1401841844;nubbins`;link? 700941;1401841850;nubbins`;this is actually hilariously epic 700942;1401841861;nubbins`;mp tells the sec to get stuffed, they shrug and then do exactly that 700943;1401841863;bloctoc;probably won't work, but here goes: 700944;1401841864;bloctoc;http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz33cnsgN8s 700945;1401841864;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 700946;1401841919;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: Paste? 700947;1401841940;moiety;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html 700948;1401841940;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 700949;1401841948;moiety;whyyyy 700950;1401841955;bloctoc;can you yokels not afford FT subscription? 700951;1401841968;nubbins`;it's more a case of not being interested in supporting a paywall 700952;1401841979;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: Not can't afford. Can't conscience sending them money. 700953;1401841998;BingoBoingo;They aren't in my WoT 700954;1401842071;bloctoc;that may change. FT didn't mention the price or say btc is tulip, ponzi, scam. They're usually pretty abusive. 700955;1401842105;bloctoc;High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d918d732-eb33-11e3-8a5f-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz33cqGlqoz 700956;1401842105;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 700957;1401842105;bloctoc;A number of Bitcoin enthusiasts have been drawn to trading in shares of virtual currency companies, or other financial instruments such as Bitcoin derivatives, traded in Bitcoin on unregulated websites. MPex, the Romanian exchange where SatoshiDice used to trade, currently lists four stocks, one fund and five derivatives for trading. 700958;1401842148;bloctoc;was that paywall too? 700959;1401842209;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: yeah, they are writing out their possibility of being in my WoT with the inane engineering of their paywall 700960;1401842225;nubbins`;hahahah 700961;1401842229;nubbins`;bloctoc, view source 700962;1401842232;nubbins`;those bastards 700963;1401842237;nubbins`;i'll never give them money now 700964;1401842251;bloctoc;put me in your wot and I'll pm you 700965;1401842273;nubbins`;but i don't trust you D: 700966;1401842297;bloctoc;what? I'm a great guy! 700967;1401842352;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: Have you even looked at ft.com on lynx if you reject cookies? 700968;1401842431;bloctoc;that doesn't sound even remotely fun. 700969;1401842446;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-motorist-accused-in-two-deaths-said-she-was-helping-ducks-1.2663840 700970;1401842448;assbot;Quebec motorist accused in two deaths said she was helping ducks - Montreal - CBC News 700971;1401842457;mike_c;http://www.dpaste.com/2FV2RAW/#wrap 700972;1401842458;assbot;dpaste: 2FV2RAW 700973;1401842465;mike_c;^ ft article 700974;1401842536;BingoBoingo;;;rate mike_c 3 liberator, analytic, numerical enforcer of honesty 700975;1401842537;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mike_c has been recorded. 700976;1401842549;mike_c;grazie 700977;1401842604;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I'm not sure, but I think I just changed the text 700978;1401842640;BingoBoingo;;;rate asciilifeform 4 Realized I've been using his writings longer than I remembered 700979;1401842641;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user asciilifeform has changed from 2 to 4. 700980;1401842647;moiety;Paste of FT.com article for anyone wanting it: http://justpaste.it/030614 700981;1401842647;assbot;Bitcoin business owner fined by SEC over share sales By... - justpaste.it 700982;1401842695;moiety;ah i'm too slow mike_c XD 700983;1401842767;mike_c;yours has nicer fonts though. 700984;1401842856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00086541 = 4.7598 BTC [+] 700985;1401842917;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086559 = 11.3392 BTC [+] 700986;1401842919;bloctoc;did satoshi dice really raise 10 million BTC? 700987;1401842949;bloctoc;with a 100 Million BTC valuation? 700988;1401842955;bloctoc;seems almost impossible 700989;1401843039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+] 700990;1401843041;nubbins`;things were different back then 700991;1401843072;mike_c;that is still impossible. that would have been, what, ALL the btc? 700992;1401843072;bloctoc;there was a cap of 21 million btc back then 700993;1401843103;bloctoc;I think 100 million is all the doge 700994;1401843142;mike_c;nobody would have been able to play :) 700995;1401843144;BingoBoingo;bloctoc: I thought circulating Doge was in the Billions, either tens or hundreds of 700996;1401843156;nubbins`;wait, "back then"? 700997;1401843386;bloctoc;nubbins I'm saying the important things haven't changed since back then. 700998;1401843509;nubbins`;ah 700999;1401843649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+] 701000;1401843893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4263 @ 0.00008018 = 0.3418 BTC [-] {8} 701001;1401844015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5139 @ 0.00007993 = 0.4108 BTC [-] {2} 701002;1401844174;mike_c;lol. wikipedia is not as creative as us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis 701003;1401844175;assbot;Rubber-hose cryptanalysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 701004;1401844292;mike_c;it's funny how many google queries lead back to stan 701005;1401844305;mike_c;;;google rectothermal cryptanalysis 701006;1401844306;gribble;Schneier on Security: Rubber-Hose Cryptanalysis: ; Loper OS » Practical Cryptoanalysis of Elliptic Curve DSA.: ; Cryptanalysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 701007;1401844616;asciilifeform;mike_c: searched for schematics of constant voltage transformer last night, in 'google images', ended up getting this - http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Oh-Fuck.png 701008;1401844625;asciilifeform;on account of it being in kako's channel log! 701009;1401844650;mike_c;i saw that earlier. cracks me up :) 701010;1401844687;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: See this linking and getting linked thing is insidious... 701011;1401844695;asciilifeform;and then had a colleague look up 'dec alpha' machine, in same search, and he got... an old post of mine. 701012;1401844707;asciilifeform;surely i'm not the only person to post a picture of dec alpha. 701013;1401844723;asciilifeform;conclusion, is, inescapably, that google sucks. but this isn't a discovery. 701014;1401844747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44319 @ 0.00086494 = 38.3333 BTC [-] 701015;1401844786;BingoBoingo;I wonder if Oreilly would actually commision that title though. I'd buy it. 701016;1401844787;mike_c;it's like democracy. the worst except for the alternatives. 701017;1401844796;asciilifeform;i sort of suspect that google tries to feed people their own shit deliberately - by ip block if possible, or by relational inference of some form if not 701018;1401844818;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That it does 701019;1401844863;mike_c;damn, jd had a good day. 701020;1401844866;mike_c;!jd mpif 701021;1401844866;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.34645873 BTC; +0.36335907 BTC (+0.2176%) since last check 1d 3h 29m 42s ago. 701022;1401844894;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, moiety: i didn't know vorhees might've been a spammer. is the accusation true? 701023;1401844918;asciilifeform;i.e. 'paid users in virtual currency when they retweeted promotional material on Twitter.' 701024;1401844937;mike_c;line between a marketer and a spammer is thin. 701025;1401844939;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It's basically what FeedZeBirds was 701026;1401844986;asciilifeform;damn, i was hoping it was a cruel lie. 701027;1401845017;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Dunno what it really did. I think he bought it second or third hand 701028;1401845065;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: You also have to understand. Of the relatively early Bitcoiners MP is practically a saint. 701029;1401845112;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: understatement. practically the only participant whose product works 'as printed on the crate' 701030;1401845113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5209 @ 0.0000889 = 0.4631 BTC [+] {2} 701031;1401845117;asciilifeform;(to this day) 701032;1401845174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6981 @ 0.00086537 = 6.0411 BTC [+] {2} 701033;1401845296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-] 701034;1401845299;asciilifeform;mike_c: the worst except for the alternatives << i sometimes use 'yandex.' it's encrusted with 1990s-style pestilential ad crapola, but mostly works. 701035;1401845370;asciilifeform;line between a marketer and a spammer << 'cold-caller' is a spammer, period. 701036;1401845396;asciilifeform;if successful cold-call, might be forgiven, 'treason prospers for the reason that if it prospers none dare call it treason...' etc 701037;1401845400;asciilifeform;but spam is spam. 701038;1401845419;asciilifeform;*never prospers 701039;1401845686;peterl;I used feedzebirds briefly 701040;1401845693;peterl;it seemed like a nice idea 701041;1401845704;BingoBoingo;peterl: Do you remember what exactly it was about? 701042;1401845721;peterl;you got to pick the retweets to send out, and so you could just use the interesting ones 701043;1401845768;peterl;you got paid based on how many followers you had 701044;1401845906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1777 @ 0.00007902 = 0.1404 BTC [-] {3} 701045;1401846511;moiety;!up Vexual 701046;1401846558;moiety;i'll make you shortbread if you ever get in the WoT Vexual :] 701047;1401846649;Vexual;why thankyou 701048;1401846707;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=504126.0 701049;1401846708;assbot;[Cryptostocks]JDBIF another scammer that claims to have lost funds | Bitcointa.lk 701050;1401847126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2929 @ 0.00007605 = 0.2228 BTC [+] 701051;1401847309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5135 @ 0.00007439 = 0.382 BTC [-] {4} 701052;1401847465;decimation;asciilifeform: do you think it's possible to synthesize VHDL to a 7400 TTL netlist? 701053;1401847500;Vexual;usagi hotwallet method:to a hot array of failing hard disks is added a bitcoin wallet, and all backups. Hotter coffee is added splashwise until the hot wallet becomes cold. 701054;1401847512;BingoBoingo;lol Vexual 701055;1401847575;BingoBoingo;So. Meterologists are supposing a derechero is possible here in 7-12 hours. If I go silent after that time for a while cause is more likely power outage than rectotherm. 701056;1401847614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2476 @ 0.00007194 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {5} 701057;1401847701;BingoBoingo;!up Phinnaeus 701058;1401847715;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Are you finally here, away from the forum? 701059;1401847719;Phinnaeus;i was just invited 701060;1401847720;Vexual;what are you making ascii? 701061;1401847733;BingoBoingo;;;later tell mircea_popescu I did it 701062;1401847733;gribble;The operation succeeded. 701063;1401847736;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.07600001 = 0.532 BTC [-] {3} 701064;1401847740;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Mp isn't on atm 701065;1401847745;Phinnaeus;k 701066;1401847756;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: But basically this is where him and Hanbot live now. 701067;1401847757;Phinnaeus;i bet she misses me 701068;1401847761;BingoBoingo;Indeed 701069;1401847764;BingoBoingo;Mircea does too 701070;1401847791;BingoBoingo;MP just moved to Argentina and is busy eating all the steak he can 701071;1401847793;Phinnaeus;it's been a while since I've used IRC. 701072;1401847798;Vexual;nsa cocktop? 701073;1401847799;Phinnaeus;I rarely use it. 701074;1401847832;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: I've moved away from the forum in favor of it after having only a few hours playing with it previously 701075;1401847878;Phinnaeus;Somebody else from the forum is in Argentina, if I'm not mistaken. 701076;1401847889;decimation;https://code.google.com/p/end-to-end/ 701077;1401847889;assbot;end-to-end - End-To-End - Google Project Hosting 701078;1401847894;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few are 701079;1401847920;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: How is the northern part of our corrupt hellhole? 701080;1401847930;Phinnaeus;Does the name Florian Gasquez ring a bell for anybody here? 701081;1401847943;decimation;"Why do you only support Elliptic Curve (EC) key generation? Generating RSA keypairs is very significantly slower than generating EC-based ones. EC-based keys are just as secure. " 701082;1401847955;decimation;Eat recycled food etc. 701083;1401848017;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Not atm for me 701084;1401848029;Phinnaeus;Look at the bottom of this page: http://web.archive.org/web/20040324225938/http://ff.st/fr/ He still keeps in contact with Mark Karpeles 701085;1401848030;assbot;FF.ST 701086;1401848050;Phinnaeus;yes, assbot 701087;1401848055;BingoBoingo;Interesting... 701088;1401848077;Phinnaeus;now go to his twitter account: https://twitter.com/un_geek/followers 701089;1401848079;assbot;Bei Twitter anmelden 701090;1401848099;Phinnaeus;followers was not important,,,, wrong link 701091;1401848126;BingoBoingo;Ah, Phin are you in the bitcoin-otc WoT yet? 701092;1401848131;BingoBoingo;!up Phinnaeus 701093;1401848138;Phinnaeus;but this part is: https://twitter.com/Weelya 701094;1401848140;assbot;weelya (weelya) auf Twitter 701095;1401848185;BingoBoingo;Moar interesting 701096;1401848187;Phinnaeus;Boy, I think I just figured out that assbot is not a real person. 701097;1401848196;BingoBoingo;it happens 701098;1401848207;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla is assbot's bot herder 701099;1401848224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07501054 = 0.3751 BTC [+] 701100;1401848231;BingoBoingo;!topic 701101;1401848239;BingoBoingo;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 701102;1401848239;assbot;#bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. 701103;1401848240;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 701104;1401848240;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 701105;1401848240;assbot;Assets Assimilated 701106;1401848257;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Anyways this channel has a log, and a bash and other shit 701107;1401848259;Phinnaeus;Now, go here and read the last few tweets (will only take a sec): https://twitter.com/sboj 701108;1401848261;assbot;Steve Boj (sboj) auf Twitter 701109;1401848311;*;BingoBoingo can't tell if nausea is the vodka or the tweet connections 701110;1401848361;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 701111;1401848401;Phinnaeus;Then it all ties in to something call http://ape-project.org/ 701112;1401848401;assbot;APE (Ajax Push Engine) :: Comet server :: Real time data streaming 701113;1401848445;BingoBoingo;OMG AJAX is a scammer! 701114;1401848446;Phinnaeus;what the heck is a bot herder 701115;1401848474;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: He keeps the IRC bot in line and occasionally blesses it with new functions 701116;1401848485;Phinnaeus;http://goatsdoitonmounds.org 701117;1401848512;Phinnaeus;I think I just broke it. LOL 701118;1401848519;BingoBoingo;http://goatsonthings.tumblr.com/page/9 701119;1401848520;assbot;Goats On Things 701120;1401848533;Phinnaeus;...so I thought 701121;1401848536;BingoBoingo;Yeah 701122;1401848557;BingoBoingo;The title thing is pretty new. ozbot used to do that and deliver porn to the channel 701123;1401848596;Vexual;what happened to that? 701124;1401848611;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com #bitcoin-assets +m 701125;1401848612;gribble;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; The elitism memory hole effect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: 701126;1401848636;Vexual;.d 701127;1401848682;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust Phinnaeus 701128;1401848683;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Phinnaeus: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=Phinnaeus | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Phinnaeus | Rated since: never 701129;1401848713;Phinnaeus;I'm curious as to when Micrea had that pic taken where he's in front of the pyramid on a horse. 701130;1401848724;BingoBoingo;Apparently that was years ago 701131;1401848740;Phinnaeus;2008 701132;1401848752;Phinnaeus;When Brock Pierce was there? 701133;1401848756;BingoBoingo;I don't know for sure 701134;1401848769;BingoBoingo;Brock Pierce is a fucking chomo 701135;1401848773;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 701136;1401848793;Phinnaeus;What is this trust thing I'm asked to get? 701137;1401848812;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: You can register a GPG key or BTC address with gribble 701138;1401848827;BingoBoingo;then I can rate you and you can get auto voice for being Phinnaeus 701139;1401848830;Vexual;does gribble flip coins? 701140;1401848835;BingoBoingo;;;coin 701141;1401848835;gribble;heads 701142;1401848837;BingoBoingo;;;coin 701143;1401848838;gribble;heads 701144;1401848840;BingoBoingo;;;coin 701145;1401848840;gribble;tails 701146;1401848854;Vexual;can she flip 2? 701147;1401848865;BingoBoingo;http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System 701148;1401848868;assbot;OTC Rating System - bitcoin-otc wiki 701149;1401848872;BingoBoingo;^ Phinnaeus 701150;1401848877;Phinnaeus;Okay. Gribble, send me some coins via the address I'm about to give you so that you truly know it's me. 701151;1401848895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0278007 = 0.278 BTC [+] 701152;1401848906;BingoBoingo;lol 701153;1401848927;BingoBoingo;If you BTC address auth it's the stupid signature thing... 701154;1401848968;Phinnaeus;I could reply to the person who sent me here via PM on BT 701155;1401848986;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: That's me. I'm Atruk on the forum. 701156;1401849012;Phinnaeus;Just sent you a PM 701157;1401849041;BingoBoingo;Tis indeed you 701158;1401849059;Phinnaeus;You can me me, too. 815-508-1668 701159;1401849094;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: But if you know I'm 618 that's like... 3/5ths of the state's area I could be in 701160;1401849123;BingoBoingo;I also can't register you with the bots... Once you are registered I can rate you. 701161;1401849132;BingoBoingo;My powers though are limited. 701162;1401849148;BingoBoingo;MP probably can explain this all more elegantly 701163;1401849155;Phinnaeus;How important is to be registered? 701164;1401849171;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Well, it is a huge convenience thing. 701165;1401849180;Phinnaeus;Ahhhhh 701166;1401849183;BingoBoingo;You can give yourself voice in channel 701167;1401849190;mike_c;asciilifeform: do you know if this is true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" 701168;1401849196;BingoBoingo;otherwise you ask people and they will probably give voice. 701169;1401849223;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: But the keys to give and take voice only are offered to registered people, because crypto 701170;1401849265;Phinnaeus;Bring me up to speed. What's "take voice" and what's the purpose of this IRC channel (any IRC channel)? 701171;1401849302;BingoBoingo;Well, this channel exists because... Maybe someone can explain it better... 701172;1401849313;BingoBoingo;Basically "Forum has problems" 701173;1401849339;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Voice, giving and taking of it, is an idiot silencing and anti-spam measure. 701174;1401849355;Phinnaeus;Remember, I'm the Bitcoiner that doesn't mine, nor host a client. And, trust InstaWallet with my 1,132 BTC of which davout (staff of BT) now has in one of his fat-ass wallets. 701175;1401849356;moiety;BingoBoingo: re: goat on a cliff. "If you squint just right you can see how it got there" lolol 701176;1401849383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5800 @ 0.00006081 = 0.3527 BTC [-] {8} 701177;1401849417;mike_c;Phinnaeus: bingo linked you to a good post on the point of it all earlier. worth reading if you're thinking of hanging out here: http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ 701178;1401849418;assbot;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 701179;1401849434;BingoBoingo;moiety: Did you see the sort of eldrich not Manul beast I encountered Monday? 701180;1401849444;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14765 @ 0.00004298 = 0.6346 BTC [-] {16} 701181;1401849492;Phinnaeus;thanks for the link BB 701182;1401849523;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: You are welcome. Pretty sure there's more stuff to get caught up on after spending so long in the Thermos ghetto. 701183;1401849552;Phinnaeus;They love me there! 701184;1401849600;moiety;i made a quick how-to in the wiki on the homepage too Phinnaeus in case thats of any help 701185;1401849618;moiety;no i haven't BB :o logged? 701186;1401849637;BingoBoingo;;;google alligator snapping turtle 701187;1401849638;gribble;Alligator snapping turtle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Alligator Snapping Turtle - National Geographic: ; Alligator Snapping Turtle - National Zoo| FONZ: (1 more message) 701188;1401849684;BingoBoingo;moiety: Local was wrestling with one of these Pizza sized critters trying to get it off the road 701189;1401849687;Vexual;that thing is cooler than a goat on something 701190;1401849688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.04622666 = 0.8321 BTC [-] {8} 701191;1401849725;moiety;that is not a turtle, that thing is from game of thrones or something 701192;1401849768;peterl;Phinnaeus: wow, suprised to see you here. You still feeding hungry people? 701193;1401849771;BingoBoingo;Thing is native to parts of Illinois, but there is a lack of evidence it was ever native to place I passed it, but "reintroducing species" and shit like that 701194;1401849800;Phinnaeus;I was surprised to see that Mircea was banned on BT a while back. 701195;1401849804;moiety;"lost/abandoned exotic pets" 701196;1401849821;Phinnaeus;Question: I met Goat in KC last year. Is he a good guy? 701197;1401849843;*;nubbins` blinks 701198;1401849849;nubbins`;BingoBoingo, you're Atruk on the forum? 701199;1401849858;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Well... actually Hannah was banned 701200;1401849871;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 10000 @ 0.00021548 = 2.1548 BTC [+] 701201;1401849872;Phinnaeus;@peter That's Jason King's outfit, that I was just helping out. 701202;1401849875;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: yeah, didn't you know... from like the signature... 701203;1401849910;nubbins`;never made the connection 701204;1401849916;moiety;I'd know that beard anywhere now! 701205;1401849916;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: My impression is he's friendly. Misguided. Opportunistic. Maybe one of stupid or self serving. 701206;1401849921;Phinnaeus;Was Hannah the one that had that pick of toes last year that Jack Off to very now and then? 701207;1401849929;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: That's the one 701208;1401849932;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0000762 = 0.381 BTC [+] {5} 701209;1401849938;BingoBoingo;!up Phinnaeus 701210;1401849941;nubbins`;i've done some business with goat, nice enough guy, seems a bit scatterbrained 701211;1401849946;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Still here? 701212;1401849950;Phinnaeus;y 701213;1401849963;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: Your 30 minutes of voice expired 701214;1401849967;BingoBoingo;Had to renew it. 701215;1401849985;Phinnaeus;I've been on here for 30 minutes already? 701216;1401849990;BingoBoingo;So it seems 701217;1401850000;nubbins`;time flies :D 701218;1401850021;Phinnaeus;...while you're taking a shit...literally! 701219;1401850024;nubbins`;you may also wish to use an actual irc client instead of the web interface, lots of handy features like tab-completion for nicks 701220;1401850043;nubbins`;for example, i just type "ph" and hit tab to get "Phinnaeus" 701221;1401850063;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: also, courtesy of asciilifeform here's Hannah and Mircea in the same picture if you haven't seen it already http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/tri2.jpg 701222;1401850065;nubbins`;also, you can sort of just minimize it without worrying about timeouts etc 701223;1401850115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00087545 = 2.1886 BTC [+] 701224;1401850129;Vexual;oh mircea, zips on your boots! 701225;1401850137;Phinnaeus;I'm a noob when it comes to all this client stuff 701226;1401850152;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: We all still are 701227;1401850164;Vexual;tsk tsk 701228;1401850176;moiety;they are really handy once youve had a wee click about. it's all straightforward nick and pass stuff 701229;1401850187;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 701230;1401850188;moiety;!up Vexual 701231;1401850191;Phinnaeus;But, I do okay with HTML, CSS and Google-fu 701232;1401850205;BingoBoingo;Phinnaeus: X chat may be a good client to try then 701233;1401850207;mike_c;i hate cloudflare as much as everyone, but this is actually a really useful primer on RSA and EC if you are new to the details of how they work: 701234;1401850210;mike_c;http://blog.cloudflare.com/a-relatively-easy-to-understand-primer-on-elliptic-curve-cryptography 701235;1401850211;assbot;A (Relatively Easy To Understand) Primer on Elliptic Curve Cryptography | CloudFlare Blog 701236;1401850218;moiety;then an irc client will be nothing :D 701237;1401850245;moiety;i have gone back to xchat and i have no idea why. i'm missing smuxi 701238;1401850246;BingoBoingo;Or smuxi's another good one. 701239;1401850258;BingoBoingo;moiety: Is it the SASL plugin? 701240;1401850260;Phinnaeus;I thought Hannah was the primer on elliptic curves. 701241;1401850267;BingoBoingo;lol 701242;1401850301;BingoBoingo;That's actually fluffypony's photoshopped wife 701243;1401850319;nubbins`;lel 701244;1401850331;peterl;nubbins`: wow, I didn't know that about tab completion. Learn something new every day! 701245;1401850346;Phinnaeus;I guess after a few more sessions here, I'll get up to speed as to how to use this IRC thingie. 701246;1401850349;nubbins`;peterl, hang around me and you'll learn a few new things every day 701247;1401850361;Vexual;i keep my left hand on tab always 701248;1401850387;nubbins`;Phinnaeus: a dedicated client can also highlight lines with your nickname, play a sound when you're mentioned, etc 701249;1401850389;moiety;BB, no what's actually bothering me is the colours. everyone had their own before and i guess i just got used to it. now its in blocks of i'm not sure but they are definitely shared 701250;1401850391;Phinnaeus;So that's where The Thinker keeps his left hand. 701251;1401850407;Phinnaeus;I do hear the sound part. 701252;1401850459;Phinnaeus;Got to go back to Google-fuuing, all. 701253;1401850472;moiety;i like how clients identify you automatically to nickserv when you open it 701254;1401850476;Phinnaeus;Or, is it fuing? 701255;1401850481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7661 @ 0.000075 = 0.5746 BTC [-] 701256;1401850483;nubbins`;hard to say 701257;1401850483;nubbins`;peace 701258;1401850488;Vexual;love 701259;1401850494;peterl;happiness 701260;1401850496;Phinnaeus;Tell Mircea I stopped by, BB. 701261;1401850506;peterl;he will se it in the logs 701262;1401850529;Phinnaeus;Speaking of log, need to wipe now. 701263;1401850538;Phinnaeus;logs 701264;1401850539;peterl;or you can have gribble tell him later 701265;1401850553;Phinnaeus;late, guys 701266;1401850557;Phinnaeus;later 701267;1401850573;moiety;bye Phinnaeus nice to meet you 701268;1401850664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00087549 = 11.4689 BTC [+] {2} 701269;1401850729;asciilifeform;decimation: VHDL to a 7400 TTL netlist << certainly. i think brad parker (author of CADR, symbolics, and TI LM emulators) had a widget that does just this. 701270;1401850774;decimation;one could use a commercial tool and hack it, but it would be neat if there were a tool that took into account gate delays etc. 701271;1401850826;decimation;I'll see if I can find Mr. Parker's warez 701272;1401850832;moiety;he had to go fuuing BB, he said he would be back 701273;1401850873;asciilifeform;mike_c: EC-based keys << complicated subject. the only solidly established fact is that the american curves are to be avoided. 701274;1401850883;nubbins`;;;view 701275;1401850885;gribble;#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.039728 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 701276;1401850888;mike_c;hehe. you mean the nsa recommended ones? 701277;1401850914;decimation;It is interesting that google "dropped support" of RSA in alpha for "performance reasons" 701278;1401850917;Vexual;asciilifeform:what are you making re: 7400s? no such lAptop? 701279;1401850928;decimation;no doubt, EC is better to implement in the hell that is javascript 701280;1401850941;moiety;just how big are these tshirts btw nubbins`? 701281;1401850953;nubbins`;moiety depends on the size ;) 701282;1401850954;decimation;but I suspect the majority of existing GPG keys use RSA (or maybe elgamal) 701283;1401850962;asciilifeform;Vexual: what are you making re: 7400s << nothing at present 701284;1401850965;nubbins`;we use regular gildan tees, sizes from small to xxl 701285;1401851030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4602 @ 0.000075 = 0.3452 BTC [-] 701286;1401851036;moiety;kk, makes sense lol thanks :D 701287;1401851068;asciilifeform;decimation: EC is a kind of 'devil's temptation' on account of compact keys. 701288;1401851082;nubbins`;i'll prolly print the current orders in the next couple days 701289;1401851196;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: tri2.jpg << rng container at bottom left hand corner of photo. 701290;1401851213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 37070 @ 0.000075 = 2.7803 BTC [-] 701291;1401851313;Vexual;asciilifeform: sexy 701292;1401851335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 701293;1401851339;asciilifeform;lol. in the pic, it's empty. 701294;1401851363;Vexual;0-3+-2 701295;1401851376;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Looks like a safe place 701296;1401851396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0295 = 0.295 BTC [+] 701297;1401851402;BingoBoingo;moiety: Heat related equipment problem 701298;1401851412;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: interestingly, none of the customs inspectors in 3 countries had any wish to open it. 701299;1401851433;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: They were probably taught better than to. 701300;1401851486;asciilifeform;Vexual: example of student cpu built with 74xxx logic: http://www.bigmessowires.com/nibbler 701301;1401851488;assbot;Big Mess o' Wires » Nibbler 4 Bit CPU 701302;1401851502;asciilifeform;(a bit of a cheat, uses modern sram and rom) 701303;1401851512;Vexual;neato 701304;1401851571;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: still surprising. i did expect annoying questions. 701305;1401851616;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I imagine the inspectors get accustomed to annoying answers and learn not to ask 701306;1401851617;moiety;thought it must have been a crash of some sort BB 701307;1401851627;BingoBoingo;moiety: It was. 701308;1401851719;asciilifeform;i forget who here gave a shit about the CVT, but to round out the story: i did learn the cause of the voltage sags. ancient wiring, too many fat electrical appliances switching on in unison (air conditioner, water heater column) 701309;1401851763;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 701310;1401851771;decimation;looking at the end-to-end turd, it appears that they do support many ciphers: aes.js aeskeywrap_testdata.js blowfish.js cipher.js ciphertext.js ecdh.js elgamal.js idea.js rsa.js workerservice.js 701311;1401851773;decimation;aeskeywrap.js all.js cast5.js cipher_algorithm.js des.js ecdh_testdata.js factory.js key.js workercipher.js 701312;1401851791;asciilifeform;decimation: still subject to the 'toilet in the kitchen' problem (browser) 701313;1401851859;asciilifeform;it's hilariously funny how everyone is eager to go back to 1992 and ditch even the most elementary process memory separation. 701314;1401851912;decimation;no d00d chrome puts each window in it's own process! 701315;1401851966;nubbins`;alexander shulgin died today 701316;1401851970;nubbins`;it made me think of vexual 701317;1401851982;asciilifeform;nubbins`: afaik he's been out of commission for a while (blind?) 701318;1401852004;nubbins`;stroke, cancer, etc 701319;1401852007;asciilifeform;nubbins`: his book is neat (2nd volume mostly written by wife, afaik) 701320;1401852008;nubbins`;hard go these past few years 701321;1401852012;asciilifeform;!up Vexual 701322;1401852026;nubbins`;i've been meaning to pick up pihkal / tihkal for years 701323;1401852051;asciilifeform;he had an... interesting relationship with american gov. 701324;1401852057;nubbins`;yup!! 701325;1401852070;nubbins`;spent a long time in a very unique position 701326;1401852084;asciilifeform;crown license for making/taking whatever drug, in exchange for selling soul. 701327;1401852118;nubbins`;i recall reading years ago that he was doing the whole *ihkal thing with cacti 701328;1401852126;asciilifeform;i'd be very curious to hear, from a legal scholar, how this was arranged on paper. 701329;1401852131;nubbins`;experimenting with compounds, dosing, etc 701330;1401852148;nubbins`;afaik DEA exemption letter is all you need. would be cool to see 701331;1401852175;asciilifeform;these used to be... not exactly common, but not entirely unheard of. 701332;1401852189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] 701333;1401852208;asciilifeform;-- story interlude -- a lab i once worked in used to house such an experimenter. he was eventually caught in diverting his stash to the black market, and imprisoned. the next guy inherited a few kg of coke. 701334;1401852222;asciilifeform;he refused to sign for it. ended up contacting various commercial disposal companies 701335;1401852227;asciilifeform;none of whom wanted the liability 701336;1401852233;asciilifeform;finally, a funeral home agreed to cremate it. 701337;1401852252;decimation;lol. I'm pretty sure the DEA tracks that stuff to the mg 701338;1401852253;asciilifeform;(on account of it being exempt from air pollution regulations, as i understand.) 701339;1401852261;nubbins`;hah 701340;1401852285;nubbins`;"method of disposal: vacuum" 701341;1401852298;asciilifeform;the events took place long before my time, so story is to be taken with grain of salt. 701342;1401852305;nubbins`;i found it amusing that LSD was the only drug he didn't include trip reports for, on account of there being so many thousands in the literature already 701343;1401852316;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/new-york-times-columnist-maureen-dowd-is-very-bad-at-ge-1585770304 701344;1401852317;assbot;New York Times Columnist Maureen Dowd Is Very Bad at Getting High 701345;1401852377;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: all of the described sensations are documented side effects. 701346;1401852421;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Of course they are. Question is why media outlet proceeds as though they aren't... 701347;1401852463;nubbins`;lel @ lady getting too high 701348;1401852475;nubbins`;didn't she know eating it is so much crazier?! 701349;1401852491;asciilifeform;probably took 'elephant dose,' too. 701350;1401852512;nubbins`;"i'll just eat a gram", said many stoners an hour before a night-long panic attack 701351;1401852547;decimation;it appers the google js crypto supports djb's 255 19 curve, I don't know javascript well enough to figure out what is set for the default 701352;1401852597;asciilifeform;decimation: at this point, it seems reasonable to think of google et al. as 'poisoned tree' and their crypto not worth the effort to audit. 701353;1401852602;nubbins`;;;google george jung 701354;1401852603;gribble;George Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; 'Blow' Inspiration George Jung -- My First Post-Prison Meal Was ...: ; George Jung RELEASED From Prison -- Johnny Depp's 'Blow ...: ; Amazon.com Top Rated: The best in Drum Set Thrones based on ...: ; Drum Thrones | Musician's Friend: 701403;1401854347;nubbins`;i'm just in the basement smoking ;( 701404;1401854370;nubbins`;('throne' is a bit of an embellishment) 701405;1401854394;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Still sounds dangerous. More so now that you confess to a vasoconstrictor. Go to ER, get TPA shot just in case. 701406;1401854418;nubbins`;not tobacco 701407;1401854437;nubbins`;tell ya what, let's meet halfway and i'll just find an actual chair 701408;1401854450;nubbins`;and skip the ER 701409;1401854484;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: You may forget, but I recently had a run in with testicular injury and scrotal illness... Stay in a fucking real chair. 701410;1401854485;Vexual;i bet you can eat a fuckton of bad ass cookies b4 you call the hospital nubbins` 701411;1401854509;nubbins`;ah, that's right 701412;1401854528;nubbins`;advice noted and appreciated 701413;1401854555;BingoBoingo;Area is vascular enough any part that has problem has big problems fast... within hours 701414;1401854566;Vexual;and if you do try to call the hospital,your phone isnt a phone 701415;1401854580;nubbins`;hospital on drugs, no fun 701416;1401854602;BingoBoingo;Right, because they won't give you painkillers if you need them for some reason 701417;1401854621;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1XRKPND.txt ) 701418;1401854621;asciilifeform;!b 3 701419;1401854629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.02125 = 0.255 BTC [-] 701420;1401854758;asciilifeform;!up Vexual 701421;1401854887;Vexual;www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gi0OEOl84y 701422;1401855239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02125 = 0.17 BTC [-] 701423;1401855412;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 701424;1401855418;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 637.9, vol: 21448.12339002 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 622.487, vol: 14086.102 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 638.55, vol: 32317.78759484 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 649.0, vol: 29.76492992 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 631.21, vol: 8087.51540000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 626.27624, vol: 33.33584844 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 641.255043, vol: 118.13037544 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 701425;1401855419;BingoBoingo;;;more 701426;1401855420;gribble;634.617468764 701427;1401855425;BingoBoingo;%book 701428;1401855429;atcbot;60k@205 40k@205 0k@200 | 40k@141 79k@141 25k@141 701429;1401855550;BingoBoingo;So... it appears the Erik story is in the /. cue 701430;1401855581;moiety;this stupid slenderman crap is going to be made into some crap film at some point, wont it 701431;1401855604;moiety;*grumble* 701432;1401855612;asciilifeform;slenderman? 701433;1401855636;asciilifeform;movie hero? fits through cracks, crevices? 701434;1401855666;moiety;there is 2 x 12 year olds who planned to kill their friend for months, blaming it on slenderman being real 701435;1401855689;moiety;i'm not actually sure, article just says he can make tendrils with is fingers and back 701436;1401855703;moiety;i think its a game though 701437;1401855746;*;asciilifeform is rather behind culturally, never heard of this 701438;1401855765;Vexual;ask pankakke 701439;1401855773;BingoBoingo;Slenderman is one of those mythical stories invented on SA/b/reddit not really worth reading. 701440;1401855798;moiety;asciilifeform: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/waukesha-police-2-12-year-old-girls-plotted-for-months-to-kill-friend-b99282655z1-261534171.html 701441;1401855799;assbot;Charges detail Waukesha pre-teens' attempt to kill classmate 701442;1401855822;BingoBoingo;Slenderman is basically a novelization of Usagi's nightmares about MP 701443;1401855846;asciilifeform;'...was stabbed 19 times by either Geyser or Weier or both' << interesting 701444;1401855854;moiety;oh so it wasn't originally a game. 701445;1401855858;asciilifeform;how does court decide how many/each. 701446;1401855861;asciilifeform;what if 0/19 701447;1401855863;asciilifeform;or 19/0 701448;1401855886;BingoBoingo;moiety: It was a story 701449;1401855927;BingoBoingo;Basically whitekid fear experience after first seeing not famous NBA players in person 701450;1401855929;moiety;lol it was actually all the birthday girl asciilifeform she has told police she thought her friend had already begun [which makes no sense considering the friend had told her she was too squeamish by this point] 701451;1401855972;moiety;which is how she got back to being the one with the blade 701452;1401856024;BingoBoingo;What I want to know is why the Biology teacher isn't being charged with neglegence 701453;1401856045;BingoBoingo;19 penetrations and a survivor 701454;1401856062;moiety;hahaha that crossed my mind too BB. after all the prep they didn't think to check where to stab 701455;1401856093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [-] 701456;1401856094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00085755 = 27.9561 BTC [-] {2} 701457;1401856094;moiety;kinda half assed, aye that'll do + walk away thing too 701458;1401856113;Vexual;aye 701459;1401856117;asciilifeform;children of reddit, can't even be arsed to stab properly 701460;1401856158;moiety;they are too busy being hip 701461;1401856170;BingoBoingo;Also, stabbing is the problem. Slashing offer a better chance at exsanguination, unless perpetrator is a surgeon. 701462;1401856181;moiety;these wee chicks have nothing ont he wee girls from last year though, well the one that stabbed her sister 701463;1401856194;*;asciilifeform wonders if the cops will make the gurlz play 'prisoner's dilemma' if it cannot be proven which one stabbed 701464;1401856195;moiety;on the* 701465;1401856214;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I doubt the cops are aware of that game 701466;1401856222;asciilifeform;perhaps not under that name 701467;1401856227;BingoBoingo;"Wisconsin can have problems too" 701468;1401856299;Vexual;www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuGhwabBzcU 701469;1401856307;asciilifeform;more interesting (linked from above) - http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/hundreds-of-zombie-homes-plague-milwaukee-neighborhoods-b99276701z1-260613161.html 701470;1401856308;assbot;Hundreds of zombie homes plague Milwaukee neighborhoods 701471;1401856374;asciilifeform;^ the feigned puzzlement of the quoted officials is riotously funny 701472;1401856395;asciilifeform;'Both Dahlberg and Barrett say they don't understand why banks allow the problem to proliferate. As they see it, it's in the bank's best interests to rid itself of the property.' 701473;1401856398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07999889 = 0.16 BTC [+] 701474;1401856413;asciilifeform;<< mega-lol. the 'zombies' rot so that prices can stay put. 701475;1401856421;BingoBoingo;Wiscunts have this delusion where they imagine they are to Chicago what the Hamptons are to New York 701476;1401856504;BingoBoingo;In reality neither Chicago nor Wiconson have hooks in the bezzel to support such delusions 701477;1401856513;asciilifeform;unwritten u.s. law - no house anywhere near a city, with working plumbing, not in 'live fire zone', etc. will be sold for 'pocket money' to a human (i.e. sans mortgage chumpatron) 701478;1401856545;asciilifeform;the bezzlers would much rather let the copper thieves pick it clean. 701479;1401856607;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: In StL brick theives have priority. They make the judgement on the property's fate and in very Missouri way the vacant land gets corn in the name of "urban agriculture" 701480;1401856611;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 701481;1401856665;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/a-farm-in-the-city-of-st-louis-some-neighbors/article_41320fe2-66af-50a0-81da-cd47b9366895.html 701482;1401856666;assbot;A farm? In the city of St. Louis? Some neighbors aren't happy : Business 701483;1401856666;asciilifeform;for skeptics: usa is the country where they burned trainloads of grain during 'great depression' - to keep prices high 701484;1401856690;asciilifeform;at least stalin, in his engineered famines, sold his abroad to buy cannon 701485;1401856700;asciilifeform;vs. burning 701486;1401856710;Vexual;that look slike mps old place 701487;1401856736;kakobrekla;mornin 701488;1401856749;BingoBoingo;mornin kakobrekla 701489;1401856749;Vexual;don't get much for your money in the old usa tho 701490;1401856755;Vexual;hey kako 701491;1401856781;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: In the interim USA discovered corn can be parted into oil for plastics and sugar for falsifying food 701492;1401856806;Vexual;sugar is food 701493;1401856815;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: mp on the subject - http://trilema.com/2013/the-corn-thing 701494;1401856817;assbot;The corn thing pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 701495;1401856819;moiety;mewning kakobrekla :] 701496;1401856839;Vexual;you repurposing the word nutrient ? 701497;1401856850;kakobrekla;i see it was a busy night, me hops the logs. 701498;1401856871;kakobrekla;dammit. , should be new line. 701499;1401856872;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That one was resonant, because I live near ground zero 701500;1401856902;BingoBoingo;Monsanto and Urban Corn share a home for a reason 701501;1401856917;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: point being, a liveable house, as popularly imagined in usa, will never cost what laptop, or even car, costs - if the authorities have to burn 99% of them to maintain this condition, they will. 701502;1401856947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07999889 = 0.48 BTC [+] {2} 701503;1401856951;moiety;schools have started suing mosanto all over the place now too 701504;1401856981;moiety;see this corn woman though, it's like she just woke up to this 8 ft high cornwall around her home. how long does it take to grow even?! 701505;1401856996;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: In the right locals government need not do burning, merely look the other way. Market does the burning http://preservationresearch.com/news-2/brick-theft-in-north-st-louis-a-preservation-crisis/ 701506;1401856998;assbot;Brick Theft in North St. Louis: A Preservation Crisis | Preservation Research Office 701507;1401857007;BingoBoingo;moiety: Gorws surprisingly fast. 701508;1401857022;BingoBoingo;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/us/20brick.html 701509;1401857025;assbot;Thieves Cart Off St. Louis Bricks - NYTimes.com 701510;1401857037;asciilifeform;if the locals wake up to the idea of squatting peacefully in the houses instead of tearing them apart, the 'owners' will order the burning. 701511;1401857044;BingoBoingo;http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/a-plan-to-stop-the-brick-by-brick-demolition-of/article_3f3265cf-9df9-5120-a62e-650f49b594e4.html 701512;1401857046;assbot;A plan to stop the brick-by-brick demolition of the city : News 701513;1401857079;asciilifeform;the actual 'free market' price of a u.s. suburban house, if none of this were happening, is probably close to $10k (number pulled from my arse) 701514;1401857112;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Around here there are livable houses near $40k in decent towns 701515;1401857120;Vexual;ill think youll find the free market price is what it sells for 701516;1401857151;asciilifeform;Vexual: see the supply cartel discussion above 701517;1401857156;BingoBoingo;In StL proper you find Sub $5k houses without buyers, because Oh noes, negros! 701518;1401857212;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: only answer is, nothing within driving distance employs folks who could afford the land tax. 701519;1401857222;asciilifeform;otherwise someone - negro, martian, whoever - would live there. 701520;1401857227;*;BingoBoingo has a brother renting a house he could buy with a year's rent. He doesn't buy because of the burden of unloading it later 701521;1401857264;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That is the flip side of the problem 701522;1401857278;dub;this is clearly why minimum wage is an evil communist plot 701523;1401857278;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i pay roughly 2x in rent what the box i'm in would cost, monthly, if 'bought' 701524;1401857311;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: this is thought to be a reasonably good deal, too, around here. 701525;1401857326;BingoBoingo;dub: People in the "city" don't get "wages" they get SSI 701526;1401857483;asciilifeform;we will discover the actual market price of american house if and when the artificial system for keeping 100,000s of them permanently vacant and off the market were to fail. 701527;1401857513;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJ8l5KJeOI 701528;1401857513;assbot;Get Money - YouTube 701529;1401857572;asciilifeform;(unfortunately with it will fail public utilities, police, etc. so we only learn the price of a 'mad max' house, vs. what presently exists.) 701530;1401857595;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: This is what the "chosen suburbs" are for. 701531;1401857602;asciilifeform;lol 701532;1401857611;asciilifeform;fluffypony awake? 701533;1401857622;asciilifeform;perhaps he can tell what this looks like in person. 701534;1401857636;asciilifeform;(was it him, in ZA?) 701535;1401857688;dub;he's outside refueling the side curtain flamethrowers on his BMW 701536;1401857770;BingoBoingo;www.forbes.com/special-report/2012/1016_zip-codes.html 701537;1401857792;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: He's in SA 701538;1401857812;Vexual;.za fool 701539;1401857836;BingoBoingo;Ah 701540;1401857861;asciilifeform;the saudis got sa 701541;1401857913;Vexual;afrikaans love them some z 701542;1401857928;BingoBoingo;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_and_Country,_Missouri 701543;1401857929;assbot;Town and Country, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 701544;1401857998;BingoBoingo;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladue,_Missouri 701545;1401857998;assbot;Ladue, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 701546;1401858021;Vexual;got your passport back yet? 701547;1401858029;BingoBoingo;Every major city has a few suburbs like those 701548;1401858035;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Case still pending 701549;1401858043;kakobrekla;http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26815298 701550;1401858043;assbot;BBC News - The Indian miracle-buster stuck in Finland 701551;1401858069;kakobrekla;the world is insane. 701552;1401858099;Vexual;youtube.com/watch?v=d8Fmu3RLEOY 701553;1401858275;BingoBoingo;Oh, only 4-8 hours until I was offered a derechero might wreak havok 701554;1401858293;dub;india is insane 701555;1401858389;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: from your ladue link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumbelina_(horse) 701556;1401858389;assbot;Thumbelina (horse) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 701557;1401858402;asciilifeform;^ most interesting citizen of that city 701558;1401858425;Vexual;lol 701559;1401858459;Vexual;get me on a greyhound! 701560;1401858501;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: You have to understand. When Clayton gets hit with the city of StL's disease... the chosen suburbs flee to Utah... 701561;1401858505;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 701562;1401858525;BingoBoingo;Just like The resident 701563;1401858777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00085891 = 20.0555 BTC [+] 701564;1401858784;nubbins`;mad max 2 has a 100% rating on rotten tomatoes, hey? 701565;1401858867;BingoBoingo;Eh, a complete non-secret is that one or more Air Force One decoys live across the Mississippi from St Louis 701566;1401858956;Vexual;whats imdb say? 701567;1401859004;Vexual;thats the one with tina turner? 701568;1401859230;nubbins`;i think tina was in number 3 701569;1401859253;Vexual;oh yah, thunderdome 701570;1401859372;nubbins`;time for sleep 701571;1401859390;Vexual;ditto 701572;1401859570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.201 = 0.402 BTC [+] {2} 701573;1401859632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20413 = 1.0207 BTC [+] 701574;1401859936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00085367 = 7.683 BTC [-] {3} 701575;1401860387;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/rabite/status/474026361691332609 701576;1401860388;assbot;If those two 12 year old girls had read some Clive Barker instead of Slender Man Creepypasta, they would have done a way sweeter murder. 701577;1401860612;BingoBoingo;I guess within the next three years we'll prolly see Brock Pierce molest some kids in the name of PedoBear 701578;1401860729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 545 @ 0.00018958 = 0.1033 BTC [-] {6} 701579;1401862010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0763022 = 0.1526 BTC [-] 701580;1401863657;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.21147997 = 4.2296 BTC [+] {6} 701581;1401863718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00084902 = 16.7681 BTC [-] {2} 701582;1401863718;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.216 = 0.864 BTC [+] 701583;1401864206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00084848 = 1.5654 BTC [-] 701584;1401864938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02115 = 0.1058 BTC [+] 701585;1401865581;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.06 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 67(Y):33(N) by coin, 67(Y):33(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.08379439 BTC. Current weight: 89,889. 701586;1401865687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26846 @ 0.00084 = 22.5506 BTC [-] 701587;1401866239;*;fluffypony is awake 701588;1401866297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.07630714 = 2.1366 BTC [+] {2} 701589;1401866345;fluffypony;asciilifeform: read the conversation twice but not enough coffee yet, what must I comment on? the chosen suburbs thing? 701590;1401866359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.07630009 = 1.6023 BTC [-] {2} 701591;1401866480;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0763075 = 0.7631 BTC [+] 701592;1401866663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0763075 = 0.6105 BTC [+] 701593;1401866724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.07503837 = 22.5115 BTC [-] {7} 701594;1401866785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 208 @ 0.07192916 = 14.9613 BTC [-] {12} 701595;1401869042;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19105 @ 0.00084366 = 16.1181 BTC [+] 701596;1401869072;Naphex;howdy 701597;1401869105;fluffypony;morningz 701598;1401869593;xmj;morning 701599;1401870004;Naphex;!up davout 701600;1401870079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19302044 = 0.7721 BTC [-] {3} 701601;1401870114;fluffypony;!up davout 701602;1401870121;fluffypony;Naphex: you have to re-up yourself I think 701603;1401870145;Naphex;yeah 701604;1401870170;Naphex;interesting how freenode irc servers don't keep mod states, and just resend the +v message every time you hit another /mode cmd 701605;1401870174;Naphex;!up Naphex 701606;1401870204;Naphex;see? how's that working, cmon i already am voiced ;] 701607;1401870208;fluffypony;lol 701608;1401870212;xmj;!up Naphex 701609;1401870232;xmj;such voice, many listen, much wow 701610;1401870242;xmj;(No, I could not resist that one.) 701611;1401870258;Naphex;no worries, every time someone does it a shiba inu dies 701612;1401870260;Naphex;:) 701613;1401870262;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 127 @ 0.00206766 = 0.2626 BTC [-] 701614;1401870271;davout;fluffypony Naphex wai u up? 701615;1401870283;fluffypony;davout:10:30am 701616;1401870289;Naphex;yeah man, 11:24 701617;1401870294;Naphex;looks like i have some offset 701618;1401870304;davout;haha why did you up! ? 701619;1401870310;davout;also hello 701620;1401870324;fluffypony;aaah 701621;1401870325;fluffypony;I dunno 701622;1401870327;fluffypony;Naphex did 701623;1401870329;fluffypony;and I followed suite 701624;1401870332;Naphex;yeah 701625;1401870335;Naphex;just starting a trend 701626;1401870336;Naphex;:) 701627;1401870340;fluffypony;s/suite/suit 701628;1401870354;Naphex;anyway davout did you ever implement FAST and is anyone using it? 701629;1401870372;davout;Naphex: no i didn't, it's on the backburner currently 701630;1401870381;Naphex;also why would someone just roll another fast interface when they can roll a high performance i/o protobuf one 701631;1401870390;Naphex;and just sell that mass improved 701632;1401870499;Naphex;i'm working on a realtime protobuf interface for trading, with incremental streamed updates and realtime orders. 701633;1401870571;davout;sounds pretty neat! 701634;1401870689;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00085621 = 13.3569 BTC [+] 701635;1401870716;fluffypony;davout: how's the rebranding goign? 701636;1401870719;fluffypony;*going 701637;1401870738;davout;it's scheduled, the UI designer is going crazy :D 701638;1401871074;Naphex;what's he going crazy about? 701639;1401871095;Naphex;just change Bitcoin-Central to Paymium on front page, and you're about done :P 701640;1401871102;davout;too easy 701641;1401871138;davout;since we're launching merchant services at about the same time and that we're going to have a single landing page it needs some lifting 701642;1401871156;Naphex;you're doing merchant services / exchange under the same platform? 701643;1401871172;Naphex;won't it clutter up with all the merchant features? 701644;1401871212;davout;you mean on the front page ? 701645;1401871224;Naphex;no i mean just in general, the code the platform etc 701646;1401871266;Naphex;i mean we're working on finalizing the payment/merchant gateway as well. but we're building them as separate projects to avoid clutter 701647;1401871271;Naphex;and unifing the wallets so they can interlink 701648;1401871291;davout;the interlink code could count as clutter as well 701649;1401871294;Naphex;then BTCXPay for payments / BTXChange for trading/exchanging 701650;1401871306;Naphex;well interlink code is needed anyway, for wallet apps and the rest 701651;1401871307;davout;you don't do the exchanging ? 701652;1401871312;Naphex;so atleast they share same wallet/account 701653;1401871325;davout;i mean can't a merchant request to be paid 12.34 EUR and receive exactly that ? 701654;1401871333;Naphex;he can 701655;1401871362;Naphex;but the merchant services will be a whole differnt app with merchant in mind, and all the features that come with merchant gateways 701656;1401871383;davout;i like the idea of having a single app to maintain 701657;1401871401;Naphex;i think exchange / payment services are too big fields too keep under same app 701658;1401871402;davout;also, a lot of code to check for incoming payments and track them properly is shared 701659;1401871422;davout;the money flows are managed in a unified process 701660;1401871444;Naphex;probably but that opens a whole lot of room, for vulnerabilities, bugs, spaghetti code, maintainance problems 701661;1401871448;Naphex;and a lot of clutter in a big app 701662;1401871450;xmj;mm. 701663;1401871461;xmj;Naphex: what language do you write that one in? 701664;1401871486;Naphex;since merchant are going too need merchant reports, invoice listings, button generators, cart generators, apis and plugins to intergrate in popular ecommerce platforms 701665;1401871500;davout;Naphex: i don't think splitting apps would make it less vulnerable, on the contrary, having only one attack surface is easier to manage 701666;1401871504;Naphex;xmj: nowadays i usually write standalone java for backends 701667;1401871525;davout;for the 701668;1401871543;fluffypony;xmj: Naphex has been plugged directly into his server banks for a while now 701669;1401871547;fluffypony;so he just thinks in code 701670;1401871557;Naphex;thats correct ;] 701671;1401871559;fluffypony;I hear he's switching to Swift after watching the Apple demo on Monday 701672;1401871559;davout;api for example, we leverage a lot of code that already exists, the extra part is a couple of models and their business logic, the e-commerce plugins are separate ofc 701673;1401871581;xmj;Naphex: Java seems a popular choice for financial transaction backends 701674;1401871610;xmj;Naphex: we've developed a p2p credit/lending site, our bank's API connectors are in java. 701675;1401871635;Naphex;xmj: its pretty lean, fast, threading is a dream and NIO is great and fast and easy to implement 701676;1401871643;xmj;NIO ? 701677;1401871647;xmj;non-blocking IO ? 701678;1401871653;Naphex;then you got really good tools, and profilers and debuggers 701679;1401871656;Naphex;xmj: yes 701680;1401871697;Naphex;but i don't use servlets or other middleware, so there's that. 701681;1401871712;xmj;ah 701682;1401871723;xmj;matter of taste i guess. 701683;1401871730;Naphex;speed 701684;1401871739;xmj;I really really like Python, because it's legible and fast to write prototypes in. 701685;1401871756;xmj;By the time you have serious scaling issues, you can always write things in Cython. 701686;1401871758;Naphex;python's not bad. twisted python is perty okay 701687;1401871771;xmj;or C. or C++. 701688;1401871777;Naphex;yep 701689;1401871789;xmj;(though, I can't write C. yet.) 701690;1401871797;Naphex;i do the same in jave, write JNI if there are bottlenecks or too slow performing native functions 701691;1401871810;Naphex;but rarely i have to do that for backends, as in hardware nowadays is too fast to care 701692;1401871822;Naphex;but i have done a lot of that for embedded and it worked out very nice 701693;1401871879;xmj;cool 701694;1401871889;Naphex;<+davout> Naphex: i don't think splitting apps would make it less vulnerable, on the contrary, having only one attack surface is easier to manage << 701695;1401871900;Naphex;I like my stuff modular, i split a big app into scalable services 701696;1401871902;Naphex;then interlink 701697;1401871918;xmj;benefit: you can reuse those parts more easily across customers. 701698;1401871922;Naphex;now i know services are secure and they stay clean and sharp to the point code 701699;1401871927;xmj;no need to reinvent wheels if you already have a stack of them. 701700;1401871941;Naphex;yep 701701;1401871954;Naphex;so i can have wallet nodes, exchange nodes (which can be split into INSTRUMENT servers) 701702;1401872035;davout;Naphex: you're bound to have quite some coupling 701703;1401872073;Naphex;there is no problem with coupling, nodes come out with coupling since start 701704;1401872082;davout;howso ? 701705;1401872093;Naphex;and they can handle their duty, wallet nodes can be used by clients to connect and manage their wallets 701706;1401872103;Naphex;exchange nodes can be accessed to convert the currency 701707;1401872121;Naphex;and payment nodes to process payments and get auto notifications from them 701708;1401872143;Naphex;they come up with servicing in mind, and the same way a client hooks up to them web platforms hook up as well 701709;1401872147;davout;but do you have a single unified domain model ? 701710;1401872165;davout;yeah, we have that too, the web interface is a module that hooks into the API 701711;1401872173;davout;it's not built in to the app 701712;1401872189;Naphex;see, now will that api do payments processing as well in the same big app? 701713;1401872193;Naphex;or be split into modular nodes 701714;1401872196;Naphex;which will interlink 701715;1401872234;davout;there is a blockchain watching process that notifies the models when it sees an incoming payment 701716;1401872241;Naphex;i just think one big app to handle wallet api, exchange api, payments api might just be too big 701717;1401872261;Naphex;and eventually you will have to split it to scale 701718;1401872283;davout;well, look at the trading for example 701719;1401872290;davout;you can not horizontally scale it 701720;1401872304;davout;it *has* to be a sequential queue that's processed FIFO 701721;1401872310;Naphex;yep 701722;1401872335;davout;how does having it as a separate thing help ? 701723;1401872347;Naphex;well, the exchange api will be that sequential queue. 701724;1401872363;davout;i mean, in my case it's a separate process, but it does however leverage a unique domain model 701725;1401872372;Naphex;but why does it have to also manage the wallets, and record user transactions, and process payments 701726;1401872375;Naphex;right? 701727;1401872386;davout;it needs to record transactions 701728;1401872387;Naphex;because it handles exchange data, and orders, and order queues, and execution 701729;1401872403;davout;executions result in writes into your accounting, right? 701730;1401872405;Naphex;and maybe order rules 701731;1401872426;Naphex;davout: brb gotta eat, continue afteward if you're still on 701732;1401872430;davout;sure 701733;1401872438;Naphex;davout: but an exchange transaction != a bitcoin transaction 701734;1401872445;Naphex;or an exchange transaction != payment transaction 701735;1401872455;davout;sure, but they all need to be accounted for 701736;1401872476;davout;they need to go in the ledger, also these transactions may share properties 701737;1401872499;davout;a lot of code is common between a bitcoin deposit and an invoice bitcoin payment 701738;1401872564;davout;for example, the service call "monitor bitcoin address xyz for x days" is common between a deposit address creation, and an invoice creation 701739;1401873505;pankkake;lol again http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/04/0059245/man-who-issued-securities-for-bitcoins-settles-with-sec 701740;1401873506;assbot;Man Who Issued Securities For Bitcoins Settles With SEC - Slashdot 701741;1401873639;davout;the sec will have to go feck itself eventually 701742;1401873678;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11792 @ 0.00084729 = 9.9912 BTC [-] 701743;1401873748;davout;!up adrrr 701744;1401873800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.06810526 = 2.7242 BTC [-] {8} 701745;1401873811;adrrr;hey thanks :) 701746;1401873904;adrrr;http://mashable.com/2014/06/03/apple-os-x-yosemite-top-features/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link 701747;1401873904;assbot;Apple OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Top 6 New Features 701748;1401874016;pankkake;so magical and revolutionary 701749;1401874044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.02793665 = 0.6705 BTC [-] {5} 701750;1401874045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 123 @ 0.00418522 = 0.5148 BTC [-] {7} 701751;1401874048;fluffypony;so SWIFT 701752;1401874079;fluffypony;how is "prettier icons" a feature? 701753;1401874084;pankkake;"Yosemite has cleaner and clearer icons along the bottom of a Mac screen, including the apps that usually value function over beauty." wait there are macapps that value function? 701754;1401874093;pankkake;"That is a gorgeous trash can," Federighi said. "You wouldn't believe how much time we spent crafting a trash can." 701755;1401874113;kakobrekla;hahaha, they list: 1. Prettier Icons: 701756;1401874121;kakobrekla;number one is prettier icons. 701757;1401874127;kakobrekla;this is number one. 701758;1401874182;kakobrekla;i guess next question is, does it come with lipstick? 701759;1401874211;adrrr;pankkake: mostly, there is apple haters :D 701760;1401876301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10708 @ 0.00084214 = 9.0176 BTC [-] 701761;1401876375;jurov;one has to be apple hater to find such "features" ridiculous? 701762;1401876410;fluffypony;yeah I quite like Apple and I think that's a stupid feature to focus on 701763;1401876423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.19313442 = 0.3863 BTC [+] 701764;1401876425;fluffypony;but that's just journalism 701765;1401876452;dub;apple only does stupid features so its unfair to pick on this 701766;1401876484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.19313432 BTC [-] 701767;1401876711;dub;does apple still exist? not even my hipster sister rolls macbook anymore 701768;1401876728;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20313422 = 0.6094 BTC [+] 701769;1401877491;dub;thats not just idle fanboy hatred either, they have a lot of mobile handsets around but beyond a few music heads (who suffer extreme lock-in) I don't know any actual users 701770;1401877576;pankkake;http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Facebook_c32430_2573160.jpg 701771;1401877594;davout;dub: a feature i like it's that their OS is a unix 701772;1401877619;davout;jurov: the gorgeous trashcan is ridiculous indeed 701773;1401877634;pankkake;an eunuch unix 701774;1401877643;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00084924 = 31.804 BTC [+] {2} 701775;1401877643;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.06958782 = 1.1134 BTC [+] {2} 701776;1401877648;dub;thats not particularly compelling 701777;1401877702;pankkake;with the worst window management ever 701778;1401877707;dub;I don't need unix at my end terminal and its only a couple of clicks away 701779;1401877725;davout;pankkake: what do you mean ? 701780;1401877749;davout;dub: so you're windows? 701781;1401877779;dub;for UI shit yeah 701782;1401877784;pankkake;it's just not ergonomic. makes you work a lot with the mouse for nothing 701783;1401877825;davout;pankkake: i use it everyday, and imo it's the best window management, it never feels like it gets in the way 701784;1401877853;davout;i keep raging about it each time i use a windows comp, and i don't use gui when i use linux 701785;1401877876;davout;mostly because i use linux for servers 701786;1401877910;davout;dub: well, osx is pretty good for ui imo, so i'm happy this way 701787;1401877988;davout;also, they're finally sucking the bitcoin cock :D 701788;1401877997;dub;just making an observation, we tend to run close to the front of tech trends over here and it struck me that apple are pretty much invisible outside of mobile 701789;1401878032;dub;which is a change from last time I thought about it 701790;1401878088;pankkake;do they really allow bitcoin applications, or is it yet another redditation? 701791;1401878128;davout;pankkake: well, i pointed out the fact that their new policy didn't mean shit taken on its own, however it appears there are some wallets that are back in 701792;1401878132;davout;such as coinjar 701793;1401878149;davout;so, i thought like you, but the facts seem to tell a different story 701794;1401878253;davout;https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/coinjar-for-iphone/id725209873?mt=8 701795;1401878253;assbot;CoinJar for iPhone on the App Store on iTunes 701796;1401878343;pankkake;* Managed Bitcoin wallet in the cloud 701797;1401878414;davout;coinjar? 701798;1401878426;pankkake;yes 701799;1401878457;davout;that doesn't change the point 701800;1401878502;davout;their "Fair rate(TM)" is pretty ridiculous too 701801;1401878654;Naphex;!up HeySteve 701802;1401878723;cazalla;don't you mean zhoujar 701803;1401878738;davout;o it's ryan's ? 701804;1401878742;cazalla;yeah 701805;1401878775;pankkake;well they might not want to allow application that store the private key 701806;1401878817;davout;pankkake: sounds doubtful 701807;1401878836;davout;their issue was "facilitating transmission" 701808;1401878852;davout;we'll see if blockchain gets back 701809;1401878855;Naphex;they will prolly ban p2p aps 701810;1401878861;Naphex;as they ban torrent apps a well 701811;1401878871;Naphex;so no Mycelium or thin clients 701812;1401878873;davout;p2p what? trading? 701813;1401878891;Naphex;Peer2Peer wallets, that connect to bitcoin network and do SPV 701814;1401878924;Naphex;so only centralized single source wallets 701815;1401879122;davout;the idea that they'll make a difference isn't supported by any facts so far 701816;1401879139;Naphex;well.. blockchain is down yet mycelium works 701817;1401879154;Naphex;so anyone who tried to use blockchain.info in the last i dunno 5-6 hours 701818;1401879157;Naphex;got erros 701819;1401879172;Naphex;while mycelium worked fine. that will make a difference every time there is a service failure 701820;1401879256;davout;no, the idea that they will categorize applications based on whether or not they store the keys, or rely on a central service 701821;1401879315;davout;is supported neither by their policy, nor by factual experience 701822;1401879393;davout;"My Father's house has many rooms" 701823;1401879751;davout;for more philosophical quotes -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hkqBfvDBU 701824;1401879751;assbot;OSS 117 Le Caire : Discussion philosophique avec Franois Damiens - YouTube 701825;1401880449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00084426 = 13.1705 BTC [-] 701826;1401881199;Naphex;"Datorita atitudinii unor persoane dorim sa va comunicam oficial ca raspunsurile noastre nu vor mai fi oferite pe acest forum. Dorim sa pastram o relatie profesionala si sa evitam raspunsul amenintarilor primite." 701827;1401881203;Naphex;seriously 701828;1401881216;Naphex;customers will definetly be less threating if they received their shit on time 701829;1401881231;Naphex;my blood just boils if i order something/pre-order something and it never gets delivered 701830;1401881268;Naphex;every mining company should just stop selling preorders period. 701831;1401881273;Naphex;and build their equipment or sell stock 701832;1401881284;Apocalyptic;but then they couldn't scam Naphex 701833;1401881338;Naphex;probably but then they shouldn't wonder when customers get all angry and threatening and then resort to police action 701834;1401881429;Naphex;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446503.0 mining drama in Romanian community, undelivered orders the usual. Google translate might help / http://blackminer.com/ the mining equipment builders from .ro 701835;1401881429;assbot;Black Miner - ASIC Bitcoin Mining Hardware 701836;1401881430;assbot;Black Miner - ASIC Bitcoin & Litecoin Mining Hardware 701837;1401881653;Naphex;Posts about people paying 28,000$ for mining equipment and still not delivering weeks after deadline. is it just me or thats a hell of a lot money to be pissing people off for 701838;1401881711;pankkake;there's this guy who bet 99% of his coins on a scam and now says he doesn't have enough for a lawyer 701839;1401881716;pankkake;maybe they're the same type 701840;1401882462;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44468 @ 0.00084424 = 37.5417 BTC [-] {2} 701841;1401883390;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/279sex/ghashio_double_spending/ 701842;1401883391;assbot;GHash.IO & double spending : Bitcoin 701843;1401883406;Naphex;hey don't take 0 conf 701844;1401883413;Naphex;you gambling? take 1 701845;1401883471;davout;people who accept 0 conf will get repeatedly raped until one of the following happens 701846;1401883477;davout;- there's nothing left to rape 701847;1401883481;davout;- they wisen up 701848;1401883553;Naphex;so ghash.io is teaching a valuable lesson then 701849;1401883675;Naphex;http://www.wired.com/2014/06/silk-road-study/ - the more interesting news today 701850;1401883675;assbot;Silk Road Reduced Violence in the Drug Trade, Study Argues | Threat Level | WIRED 701851;1401883690;davout;what exactly is it doing? (haven't read the reddit post) 701852;1401883708;Naphex;davout: ghash.io double spending against some bitcoin casino 701853;1401883722;Naphex;roll dig win -> let transaction confirm / lose -> double spend 701854;1401883728;Naphex;roll dice* 701855;1401883750;davout;is it proved? because it sounds like they'd have more to lose by passing on the block reward 701856;1401883787;Naphex;"proved" 701857;1401883807;Naphex;but still basic attack, they can just drop the tx and double spend. some luck required 701858;1401883854;davout;oic 701859;1401883893;davout;kinda scammy to do that, but otoh the casino being retarded doesn't help 701860;1401883931;Naphex;well they might not be doing it and someone else just messing with their system 701861;1401883943;artifexd;Why isn't http://bitbet.us/bet/858/ already resolved? 701862;1401883943;assbot;BitBet - Perpetual Obsolescence: iOS 8 Announced in 2014 :: 0.22 B (96%) on Yes, 0.01 B (4%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 93`379 (100`000 to 1) 701863;1401883944;Naphex;who knows what they use to detect transactions and how their system executes 701864;1401883970;pankkake;artifexd: to get 1% from asshole after-the-fact bettors? :p 701865;1401883988;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1706 @ 0.00083906 = 1.4314 BTC [-] 701866;1401884003;mircea_popescu;hola! 701867;1401884013;artifexd;You would certainly have to be an idjot to bet on it. I was just curious. 701868;1401884021;davout;mircea_popescu: hi! 701869;1401884036;mircea_popescu;how goes it :) 701870;1401884040;mircea_popescu;artifexd, was it announced ? 701871;1401884057;artifexd;At WWDC a couple days ago 701872;1401884068;artifexd;https://www.apple.com/ios/ios8/ 701873;1401884068;assbot;Apple - iOS 8 - Overview 701874;1401884076;mircea_popescu;a ok. best leave a link in comments there would you. 701875;1401884105;artifexd;Sure 701876;1401884105;Naphex;how is ios8 huge for developers? did they finally open up? 701877;1401884129;mircea_popescu;now that i doub 701878;1401884130;mircea_popescu;t 701879;1401884139;davout;Naphex: they announced some naw language, looks just as ugly as objective c 701880;1401884143;Naphex;Each enhancement has a purpose. Every new feature deserves to be a new feature. 701881;1401884146;Naphex;such marketspeech 701882;1401884198;Naphex;god forbid you enhance without any purpose or add old new features 701883;1401884244;mircea_popescu;by this rationale every competitor to apple deserves to be successful. 701884;1401884251;Naphex;haha 701885;1401884292;mircea_popescu;someone sent me a trilema credits thing out of some pos wallet that truncates the last 2 digits of a tx 701886;1401884296;mircea_popescu;aren't they gonna be happy. 701887;1401884389;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 701888;1401884391;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 637.16, Best ask: 638.21, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 638.21, 24 hour volume: 19456.21434130, 24 hour low: 621.86, 24 hour high: 680.99, 24 hour vwap: 649.593962515 701889;1401884403;Naphex;mircea_popescu: so mircea why no ssl on trilema? what if NSA steals my cookie?:( 701890;1401884406;Naphex;:)) 701891;1401884417;mircea_popescu;they can't use it. 701892;1401884427;mircea_popescu;try it yourself :D 701893;1401884469;mircea_popescu;the long version being that there's no ssl on trilema because ssl is so fucking broken, the problem it purports to solve but fails to solve can in fact be actually solved by five lines OF PHP. 701894;1401884597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2433 @ 0.0008529 = 2.0751 BTC [+] {2} 701895;1401884818;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/YtJ0agD8 701896;1401884818;assbot;Hi, I wanted to follow up regarding the conference. Have you considered ou - Pastebin.com 701897;1401884831;mircea_popescu;buzzpro.co.il my foot. moar like spampro. 701898;1401884864;mircea_popescu;im gonna consider sponsoring some people i don't know, because i have no friends and don't know anybody. 701899;1401884894;mircea_popescu;and ima do it because "some of the seats are already taken", as if random rottinculo has the upper hand in this fucking relationship where i got the dough and he's doing the begging. 701900;1401884931;mircea_popescu;fucking hell what sort of wet straw do they use to make brains these days i wish to know. denial all the way never fucking workls in practice, yet it seems the only strategy kids deploy anymore. 701901;1401885014;Naphex;well thats not true 701902;1401885017;Naphex;you gotta lean 701903;1401885019;Naphex;and spin 701904;1401885044;mircea_popescu;yes, if you wanna die poor you gotta. 701905;1401885066;Naphex;aren't all bussiness nowadays made from nothing? 701906;1401885072;Naphex;and require 0 money just a good idea? 701907;1401885077;Naphex;and some poor sob to code it 701908;1401885079;mircea_popescu;depends what you mean by business 701909;1401885102;mircea_popescu;if oyu mean the sort of crud that xml dude and his friends spit out, then yes, except it's not business, it's buzznix. 701910;1401885126;Naphex;hehe thats what i meant 701911;1401885208;mircea_popescu;but incidentally, this is a good fucking point, re php. hear all ye haters and knowppls : steal a trilema cookie, get a bitcoin. 701912;1401885217;mircea_popescu;since php is so insecure and everything, it should be trivial to do. 701913;1401885404;Naphex;well it works in the office cause i'm behind the same IP 701914;1401885406;Naphex;natted :) 701915;1401885422;mircea_popescu;lmao 701916;1401885429;mircea_popescu;that's how it's supposed to work 701917;1401885441;Naphex;yep i'm guessing its hooked to remote_addr 701918;1401885468;mircea_popescu;remote_addr+salt+pw or somesuch 701919;1401885478;mircea_popescu;i forget exactly but in principle that's the scheme 701920;1401885530;Naphex;is it just hashed and you check hash or you keep serverside session? 701921;1401885536;mircea_popescu;no sessions. 701922;1401885550;Naphex;so just hash(remote_addr+salt+pw) in /set-cookie.php 701923;1401885551;Naphex;and then check 701924;1401885562;Mats_cd03;BingoBoingo: air force one decoy? 701925;1401885569;mircea_popescu;pretty much 701926;1401885573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07645606 = 0.1529 BTC [+] 701927;1401885585;Naphex;but set-cookie doesn't encrypt "cod" :) 701928;1401885589;Naphex;so i can just snag it from there 701929;1401885594;Naphex;and have lots of trilema credits 701930;1401885594;Naphex;:P 701931;1401885613;mircea_popescu;Naphex, so try ? 701932;1401885642;Naphex;sadly i am not the nsa:( 701933;1401885648;mircea_popescu;what "cod" anyway ? 701934;1401885656;Naphex;Parola: 701935;1401885679;mircea_popescu;ok so you snag it from there, and what ? crack the hash ? 701936;1401885698;Mats_cd03;I was under the impression _any_ mil aircraft with potus in it was Air Force One, or Marine One, etc 701937;1401885821;Naphex;mircea_popescu: what is that hash anyway seems variable output 701938;1401885846;mircea_popescu;who's the haxxor here. 701939;1401885847;pankkake;Mats_cd03: Monica One 701940;1401885852;mircea_popescu;lmao 701941;1401885932;Naphex;mircea_popescu: yeah but the password is cleartext in cookie no? 701942;1401885947;*;mircea_popescu doesn't even recall. 701943;1401885949;mircea_popescu;lets see here 701944;1401885959;Naphex;e163Gpassword_test_inputl68a9 701945;1401886038;Naphex;so its just the math for the ip/checksum 701946;1401886176;mircea_popescu;pretty much 701947;1401886183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00085342 = 16.9327 BTC [+] 701948;1401886203;mircea_popescu;actually i suppose an extra layer couldn't possibly hurt. 701949;1401886207;mircea_popescu;!up manamex_ 701950;1401886238;mircea_popescu;attention all people logged into trilema : im putting in a change ticket, which will be implemented whenever today and as a result will prolly log you out. just log back in will be fine. 701951;1401886263;Naphex;so do i get a bitcoin?:) %% 701952;1401886267;Naphex;^^ 701953;1401886299;mircea_popescu;lol 701954;1401886306;mircea_popescu;no, because you didn't steal a cookie :D 701955;1401886314;mircea_popescu;you do get a pat on the head tho, for being halpful. 701956;1401886326;Naphex;hehe 701957;1401886337;Naphex;wait i was just about to break the hash 701958;1401886348;mircea_popescu;a ok 701959;1401886369;mircea_popescu;i'll put the ticket in tomorrow then, that enough for you ? 701960;1401886388;Naphex;nah i was just kidding, do the ticket 701961;1401886406;Naphex;atleast tell me what does the extra byte before password do?:) 701962;1401886415;Naphex;i'm guessing e163 / 68a9 encodes the ip 701963;1401886423;Naphex;doesn't look ip2long/long to ip 701964;1401886423;mircea_popescu;i have no fucking idea 701965;1401886444;Naphex;e163(G) <- this one :)password_test_inputl68a9 701966;1401886448;mircea_popescu;it's been years and this was never a central matter 701967;1401886897;Mats_cd03;http://www.worldbank.org/content/dam/Worldbank/document/Poverty%20documents/FPW_May%202014_final.pdf 701968;1401886941;Mats_cd03;food price watch tracking trends in various places 701969;1401887037;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 376 @ 0.00085342 = 0.3209 BTC [+] 701970;1401887146;Mats_cd03;food riots remaining a perennial phenomenon worldwide 701971;1401887195;pankkake;at least americans will be able to eat their fat 701972;1401887203;fluffypony;lulz 701973;1401887243;mircea_popescu;pankkake, so would kenyans 701974;1401887460;dub;kenyans can eat american fat 701975;1401887538;mircea_popescu;exactly. 701976;1401887727;dub;obama was sent to initiate the harvest 701977;1401887774;mircea_popescu;omg obama is eating baby fat ? 701978;1401887830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02052 = 0.1026 BTC [-] 701979;1401887839;dub;all muslims eat babies, remember? 701980;1401887874;mircea_popescu;gotta love people that send you gpg mail and dutifully include a complete summary in the subject line 701981;1401887893;Mats_cd03;lol 701982;1401887946;mircea_popescu;dub, a muslim ate yo baby ? 701983;1401888013;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33900 @ 0.00084608 = 28.6821 BTC [-] 701984;1401888048;*;mircea_popescu sings ♫♩ it's a muslim eat baby would out there baby ♬ make a lotta nice friends ♪♪ if you don't make a lotta nice friends come back, babe... 701985;1401888928;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00084781 = 25.2647 BTC [+] 701986;1401889104;Naphex;i'm off 701987;1401889106;Naphex;laters o/ 701988;1401889234;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17185 @ 0.00084944 = 14.5976 BTC [+] 701989;1401889657;mircea_popescu;so now, should i go through the logs ? or should i make further travel posts on trilema ? 701990;1401889689;mircea_popescu;i shall ponder this matter while my salmon omlet cooks 701991;1401890514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36464 @ 0.00084981 = 30.9875 BTC [+] {2} 701992;1401890603;moiety;hello :] 701993;1401890616;fluffypony;BingoBoingo:That's actually fluffypony's photoshopped wife <- I knew I should've made her nails the same colour! 701994;1401890829;mircea_popescu;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26ymdr/ive_come_to_my_sensesi_sold_all_my_dogecoins_and/ 701995;1401890830;assbot;I've come to my senses...I sold all my dogecoins and am full into bitcoin again. Not gonna f*** with those alt coins again. : Bitcoin 701996;1401890982;pankkake;"You should not keep all your eggs in 1 basket, get some Litecoin as well, have you seen the volume and market cap? I am 70% Bitcoin, 30% Litecoin - Litecoin is seriously undervalued right now. 701997;1401890995;pankkake;"The only alt worth having any serious money in is Litecoin. I have no faith in any others. 701998;1401891008;pankkake;god, how I hate those scam pumpers 701999;1401891105;mircea_popescu;it really should be atc. 702000;1401891115;TomServo;I mined a few litecoin blocks via CPU way back when. Just recently found that wallet and sold them, twas nice to grab a few BTC out of that. 702001;1401891116;fluffypony;plx 702002;1401891119;fluffypony;FluffyCoin is coming 702003;1401891125;dub;%book 702004;1401891126;atcbot;3k@180 5k@175 2k@170 | 65k@141 25k@141 100k@140 702005;1401891132;TomServo;LTC/BTC exchange rate has been in a pretty steady decline for a while now 702006;1401891132;fluffypony;you can mergemine it with ManulCoin and Altcoin 702007;1401891138;fluffypony;and it will have a fluffy logo 702008;1401891143;fluffypony;which will be a feature 702009;1401891152;fluffypony;also it'll be written in Swift because that's a modern language 702010;1401891158;moiety;omg you have to make physical coins fluffy too 702011;1401891168;fluffypony;heh heh 702012;1401891203;moiety;i wonder how things would be with bitcoin today if all this time and energy thats been spent on alts had been focussed on btc 702013;1401891307;fluffypony;the problem is that much of the time and energy has been spent by people that aren't really on "that level", so if they focused on BTC instead we'd just see more shitty copies of exchanges / gambling sites etc. 702014;1401891323;fluffypony;and about a billion dumb features submitted as pull requests 702015;1401891343;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, you can't merge ltc with atc, one's scrypt 702016;1401891364;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: no no, FluffyCoin and ManulCoin will merge-mine with ATC 702017;1401891368;mircea_popescu; omg you have to make physical coins fluffy too << coins made out of shag. 702018;1401891369;mircea_popescu;swag! 702019;1401891395;mircea_popescu; i wonder how things would be with bitcoin today if all this time and energy thats been spent on alts had been focussed on btc << not noticeably different. 702020;1401891441;mircea_popescu;you know, just like where opera would be if all the time spent derping around counterstrike were spent "singing" 702021;1401891460;mircea_popescu;exactly what fluffy says. 702022;1401891520;TomServo;"You buy Doge for the community not as an investment." 702023;1401891523;pankkake;merge mining is one of the few things that would make me take an altcoin seriously 702024;1401891526;TomServo;ha. 702025;1401891552;pankkake;still a better reason than silver to bitcoin's gold 702026;1401891607;mircea_popescu;!up princessnell 702027;1401891612;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot princessnell 702028;1401891613;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user princessnell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=princessnell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell | Rated since: Thu May 8 16:20:29 2014 702029;1401891635;mircea_popescu; "You buy Doge for the community not as an investment." << thus spoke socialisthustra. 702030;1401891679;mircea_popescu;pankkake, you can actually merge mine atc with btc neh ? 702031;1401891704;pankkake;no, you'd have to patch atc for that 702032;1401891708;pankkake;and I don't know how 702033;1401891795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5153 @ 0.00085231 = 4.392 BTC [+] 702034;1401891816;mircea_popescu;mike_c, i seriously see why it'd make sense for your site. 702035;1401891822;mircea_popescu;and then perhaps we can merge-credits. 702036;1401891840;fluffypony;TrilemaCoin ? 702037;1401891869;mircea_popescu;lol 702038;1401891935;mircea_popescu;mike_c: 702039;1401891935;mircea_popescu;hm.. all the #b-a blogs should charge the same credits, spend them to read the other blogs, get them when people read your blog. talk about a circle jerk. << zipf would put a rapid end to that methinks. 702040;1401892037;mircea_popescu;anyway, there's definitely some future in the blog credits thing. 702041;1401892043;mircea_popescu;prolly too soon to know how it looks. 702042;1401892090;mircea_popescu;well since i'm reading the logs, i'd like to take a minute and dissect the stupidity of "xmj: mike_c: not if he dislikes my stating how it is." 702043;1401892110;moiety;i think i would have to give out credits to get people to read a blog 702044;1401892113;xmj;mircea_popescu: so you don't ignore me? 702045;1401892115;mircea_popescu;first off and most importantly, the unexamined prior that there "is" this one thing called "start-ups" 702046;1401892150;xmj;it's not an unexamined prior. it's a fact. read news.ycombinator.com. 702047;1401892158;artifexd;http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/06/making-end-to-end-encryption-easier-to.html 702048;1401892158;assbot;Google Online Security Blog: Making end-to-end encryption easier to use 702049;1401892167;xmj;get your inflated head down to the reality of 2014. 702050;1401892222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.20184919 = 2.2203 BTC [-] {5} 702051;1401892251;fluffypony;artifexd: I was reading their stuff earlier, it's quite interesting 702052;1401892304;artifexd;It is hard to find (as in I couldn't) an easy way to do gpg email in gmail. There used to be plugins but they just don't last/work. 702053;1401892382;fluffypony;artifexd: mailvelope 702054;1401892466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5463 @ 0.00085231 = 4.6562 BTC [+] 702055;1401892469;artifexd;I looked at that and I dismissed it for some reason that I don't recall. That was prior to the current release though so I shall look again. 702056;1401892471;danielpbarron;when i first started sending ascii armored blocks in gmail, they would alter some of it so it wasn't valid on the other end; sometimes because it would try to translate it, and sometimes it would just randomly remove a space or line return 702057;1401892504;danielpbarron;after i set the option "never try to translate this" it seems to work every time 702058;1401892588;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16943 @ 0.00085231 = 14.4407 BTC [+] 702059;1401892625;artifexd;I think it comes down to the fact that I get a bad feeling at the idea of putting my private key somewhere that could be accessed via javascript that was downloaded from some external location. 702060;1401892649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00196696 = 0.1869 BTC [-] 702061;1401892741;mircea_popescu;motherfucker wireless omg. 702062;1401892783;mircea_popescu;anywyay, i was interrupted in the middle of spamming. let's continue. 702063;1401892793;mircea_popescu;this is usually the result of mediocre brains strained through the us college system. they end up with the expectation that any conceptual category has a practical counterpart. 702064;1401892805;mircea_popescu;and so there IS such a thing as "start-ups" in the same sense there actually is a thing called new york. 702065;1401892811;mircea_popescu;second off, and much more worrisome, the bizarre notion that there's safety in banality, to wit, that one can't fuck up by doing what "everyone" is doing. 702066;1401892823;mircea_popescu;this is exactly counter to what a startup is even for. this is ibm think. 702067;1401892831;mircea_popescu;there's simply no way he ends up any other way than bleeding in a ditch somewhere, with a pilum in his penis. 702068;1401892848;mircea_popescu;oviously in real reality start-ups are not the derps that go to "start-up dinners", but exactly the guys that don't 702069;1401892888;mircea_popescu;and similarly, start-ups aren't the guys that do what everyone else does, but exactly the guys that don't. 702070;1401892918;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-06/03/silk-road-study << this is precisely why they wanted that "murder solicitation" thing in there so bad. and... they got it. because, bitcoin jesuses. 702071;1401892919;assbot;Study claims Silk Road reduced drug-related violence (Wired UK) 702072;1401892919;gribble;The operation succeeded. 702073;1401892930;mike_c;i would post that on my wall, but then everyone would just ask me "who is mircea" 702074;1401892946;mircea_popescu;that's ok. 702075;1401892951;mike_c;drives me crazy when someone says "well the other startups are doing it" 702076;1401892955;mircea_popescu;it;s not really intended for the comsumption of the etsy crowd. 702077;1401892963;Apocalyptic; drives me crazy when someone says "well the other startups are doing it" << this 702078;1401892980;mircea_popescu;no but you see, that's who they are and what they do. what do you want ? 702079;1401892992;mircea_popescu;most people are supposed to be most people. 702080;1401893000;pankkake;i've also got the "it's written by a googletwitterfacebook employee" 702081;1401893009;mircea_popescu;yeah, like btc 7.0 702082;1401893176;moiety;have tweeter been in touch with you mircea_popescu? 702083;1401893198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.21115623 = 1.0558 BTC [+] {3} 702084;1401893212;pankkake;I believe it works the other way 702085;1401893217;Mats_cd03;im glad theres an extension 702086;1401893228;mircea_popescu;i don't even know moiety. still working at having everything up and running, moving an entire cc across the continents is an involved task 702087;1401893237;moiety;i just realised smuxi has tweeter support and i have no idea how to use it 702088;1401893237;Mats_cd03;now i can use gpg on my chromebook 702089;1401893259;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02999988 = 0.24 BTC [+] 702090;1401893260;mircea_popescu;smucksy ? :D 702091;1401893272;mircea_popescu;i mean schmucksy 702092;1401893274;pankkake;https://support.twitter.com/entries/15790 702093;1401893274;assbot;Twitter Help Center | My account is suspended 702094;1401893312;dub;http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/2014/UCR_Citywide_Reported%20_Offenses_2014.pdf 702095;1401893324;moiety;i don't even know how you are still sane mircea_popescu, moving one person and two cats with very little stuff is.. well, I've had enough by this point lol 702096;1401893327;dub;crime stats in denver since they legalised weed 702097;1401893334;mircea_popescu;!up n6506 702098;1401893339;davout;mircea_popescu: "moving an entire cc across the continents is an involved task" <<< if you care to share i'm curious about the criteria for choosing argentina 702099;1401893368;mircea_popescu;davout, basically, it's romania of the 90s/ny of the 70s. 702100;1401893371;mircea_popescu;i love that place. 702101;1401893381;fluffypony;The wife and I went to exactly 1 start-up dinner. Not only were the people a bunch of pretentious cocks that have never done anything successful in their lives (except circlejerk around all the cool synergies they can have with other start-ups), but the "speakers" (while eloquent and with beautiful Jobs-like presentations) espoused utterly inane notions that have no basis in reality and mostly have to do with spending stupid amounts of money 702102;1401893381;fluffypony;on "original" ideas that should cost a lot less than they do (see: guerrilla marketing). 702103;1401893393;davout;yeah, what was so cool about it? 702104;1401893396;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, remind me to tell you about the ONE bdsm meet i ever attended 702105;1401893398;n6506;mircea_popescu: behold phinnaeus gage in chan: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#701260 702106;1401893398;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 702107;1401893403;fluffypony;davout: dancing in the streets but for free! 702108;1401893403;mircea_popescu;o wow. 702109;1401893408;mircea_popescu;how did i miss that! 702110;1401893436;mircea_popescu;coolness. 702111;1401893452;moiety;he wasn't here long, he said he would be back though. 702112;1401893455;davout;the first rule of the tautology club... 702113;1401893460;xmj;mircea_popescu: am I unignored now? 702114;1401893464;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Phinnaeus it doesn't cunt if i wasn't there!!! 702115;1401893464;gribble;The operation succeeded. 702116;1401893477;xmj;;;later tell mircea_popescu am I unignored now? 702117;1401893477;gribble;The operation succeeded. 702118;1401893480;xmj;wonderful. 702119;1401893485;mircea_popescu;davout, i dunno, i like it! 702120;1401893502;n6506;also mircea_popescu, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#702046 702121;1401893503;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 702122;1401893519;pankkake;I hope that one line was trolling 702123;1401893519;mircea_popescu;it matches my proclivities or something. 702124;1401893523;mircea_popescu;n6506, o god have mercy. 702125;1401893543;n6506;:D 702126;1401893561;mircea_popescu;pankkake, were you the one with the "with cia agents" zinger, you multiminded psychopath you ? 702127;1401893578;mircea_popescu;just because they're after you doesn't mean everything's a meta. 702128;1401893589;pankkake;no it was nubbins http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=149 702129;1401893589;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 702130;1401893593;mircea_popescu;aok 702131;1401893602;mircea_popescu;but you're the same one guy rite ? 702132;1401893610;pankkake;depends on the days 702133;1401893823;mircea_popescu;;;tslb 702134;1401893832;gribble;Time since last block: 2 minutes and 36 seconds 702135;1401893885;mircea_popescu;moiety, well, i have women to drive nuts, so it keeps me sane. it's like a gift. 702136;1401893944;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: 702137;1401893944;mircea_popescu;code has failed in production we'll shut the startup down, start a new one, buy the old one out, and then repeat. We call this Multi Startup Synergistic Prefailure, and it's inspired by the work of Tsukino Usagi. << you know it's pretty much how this crap works irl. 702138;1401893977;mircea_popescu;princessnell: bitcoinpete i almost did the same and went into law. dodged a bullet there! << what's so bad about law ? 702139;1401893980;mircea_popescu;princessnell, 702140;1401893981;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: that's the beauty of it...now if we add an IPO stage in the middle, we can make several HUNDREDS of Dollars! 702141;1401893983;fluffypony;worth it. 702142;1401894004;princessnell;mircea_popescu well there's a huge legal bubble in the us rite now 702143;1401894005;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, you may underestimate the bezzle. what's whatsapp sell for i forget ? 50 trillion ? 702144;1401894010;fluffypony;true 702145;1401894027;fluffypony;despite what u-sage usagi thinks, I'm clearly a shitty scammer 702146;1401894032;fluffypony;I need to up my scamgame 702147;1401894040;mircea_popescu;princessnell, as in too many duke grads unemployed to the point you get idjits a la tucker max writing "novels" and then moving on to "financial advicering" ? 702148;1401894099;princessnell;that's the spectacle. then there's the masses of subprime borrowers who went to shit tier law schools and now work as glorified file clerks at an hourly wage. 702149;1401894119;mircea_popescu;but my point was not about the direct practical application 702150;1401894134;mircea_popescu;my point is more that if you aspire to not be fucking stupid, pretty much the best avenue in the us colleges today is law. 702151;1401894175;mircea_popescu;granted this doesn't justify the tuition. but then again i've yet to meet the person that studied law and was worse for the wear for it. 702152;1401894179;princessnell;why do you think that? 702153;1401894184;mircea_popescu;which one 702154;1401894184;princessnell;ah 702155;1401894246;princessnell;"the best avenue" idk i'm biased but i'd have to go with economics or math or even logic/philosophy 702156;1401894265;mircea_popescu;there's nobody aliv ein the us qualified to teach philosophy to any degree. 702157;1401894275;princessnell;"studying the law" here = "memorizing administrative case law" 702158;1401894284;mircea_popescu;math is a prime tool of making one stupid, even in sane places (such as the soviet union) 702159;1401894291;mircea_popescu;ya well not that. 702160;1401894339;princessnell;point is i think on the whole the fields i mentioned equip you with better mental models than most law programs 702161;1401894344;mircea_popescu;i suppose the start-up approach to studying law in the us is getting a small apt close to the campus of a good law school and fucking all the older profs for free. 702162;1401894360;mircea_popescu;rent way cheaper than tuition, results way better than degree, 702163;1401894364;mircea_popescu;more fun all through. 702164;1401894385;mircea_popescu;well, we may be talking at cross purposes, let me try and model the difference. 702165;1401894390;princessnell;ha. but then you don't get a sheepskin. 702166;1401894429;mircea_popescu;suppose there's a land, and under this land water table, and above names of places. 702167;1401894459;mircea_popescu;how deep to the water table is perhaps what you're discussing, whereas how much water in that spot at all is maybe what i',m saying. 702168;1401894479;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36550 @ 0.00085571 = 31.2762 BTC [+] {2} 702169;1401894489;mircea_popescu;math models are a lot easier to access, yes. not nearly as useful tho, not generally. 702170;1401894631;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: you guys have seen this, right - http://coingen.io << depends. you ever heard of atc, the altcoin ? 702171;1401894632;assbot;Coingen 702172;1401894639;mircea_popescu;;;seen thickasthieves 702173;1401894639;gribble;thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: lol 702174;1401894645;princessnell;what is it about law itself that you think leads people to not fucking stupidity 702175;1401894645;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: was a prefix to a thought ;) 702176;1401894671;Mats_cd03;imo physics is the most valuable 702177;1401894679;mircea_popescu;princessnell, it can;t ever be right. 702178;1401894694;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03, has a good point, physics i agree is very very close. for exactly the same reason 702179;1401894699;mircea_popescu;physics can also never be right. 702180;1401894710;Mats_cd03;reasoning from first principles and so forth 702181;1401894816;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: mike_c: didn't know that about altcoin i don't know why i thought it was a costlier project << nah, thickasthieves was running lean at the time :D 702182;1401894840;princessnell;i think that's right but i unfortunately don't think that's the approach that us law schools take. anyways i deal a lot with law through economics so i can have it all. 702183;1401894876;mircea_popescu;yeah that's the thing, it never goes away anyway, so... 702184;1401894982;mircea_popescu;"BitFury Group Ltd. last week secured one of the largest rounds of funding in the bitcoin sector, bringing in $20 million." 702185;1401894989;mircea_popescu;say what you will, the press doth learn. 702186;1401895089;mircea_popescu;"and expects $210 million in revenue for this year, on $120 million in EBITDA, Mr. Kikvadze said" 702187;1401895094;mircea_popescu;!up jm123 702188;1401895110;mircea_popescu;check out that magic! 210 mn revenue 120mn ebitda! 702189;1401895234;pankkake;!up n6506 702190;1401895312;mike_c;because you can just ignore depreciation, especially in a mining operation. 702191;1401895318;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: how long does it take for BB to deposit winnings following resolution << a maximum of two days 702192;1401895333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2773 @ 0.00085585 = 2.3733 BTC [+] 702193;1401895344;mircea_popescu;mike_c, what i want to know is, if you ignore tax, interest, depreciaiton and everything else 702194;1401895356;mircea_popescu;where are you bleeding half your bottom line ? 702195;1401895376;mike_c;company parties are expensive. 702196;1401895385;mircea_popescu;no but srsly, what the fuck else is there 702197;1401895395;mike_c;salaries! 702198;1401895408;mircea_popescu;90mn in salaries ? 702199;1401895438;mircea_popescu;its a fucking start-up, they didn't hear of stock options in georgia ? 702200;1401895441;fluffypony;mike_c: Mining Equipment Present Value: $120mn. Mining Equipment Future Value: $120mn. 702201;1401895451;fluffypony;Mining Equipment Accounting Method 702202;1401895454;fluffypony;MEAM 702203;1401895457;mircea_popescu;lol 702204;1401895459;mike_c;well, they are talking about cash flow not balance sheet, so capex i guess 702205;1401895480;mircea_popescu;uh. 702206;1401895484;mircea_popescu;wait. 702207;1401895499;mike_c;capex counts against income, no? 702208;1401895502;mircea_popescu;dude that article could have been worse written 702209;1401895513;mircea_popescu;but it's not directly obvious how. who the fuck does wsj serve these days anyway ? 702210;1401895525;mircea_popescu;obviously not people with even 1 year's worth of cc business. 702211;1401895534;mike_c;you missed the one from financial times that said SD raised *10 million* btc in their ipo 702212;1401895563;mircea_popescu;i ddin't miss the part where th sec dutifully cribbed the mpex numbers from trilema. 702213;1401895567;mike_c;reporters are awesome (present company not included in sarcasm of course) 702214;1401895577;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3777 @ 0.00085594 = 3.2329 BTC [+] 702215;1401895608;fluffypony;mike_c: yeah that was my favourite 702216;1401895621;fluffypony;"IPO: want to raise half of bitcoins to ever exist. plz apply here." 702217;1401895640;mike_c;not to mention more than existed at the time. 702218;1401895645;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, at the time there were about 9.5mn in total in existence, of which ~1mn still locked as today 702219;1401895647;mircea_popescu;so... yeah. 702220;1401895659;fluffypony;heh 702221;1401895719;mircea_popescu;it would help if the people covering the most important thing happening in the world these years would be at leas tconversant in its basicsa 702222;1401895767;mircea_popescu;mike_c, i guess the sane construction here is they're paying about 100mn to the various manuf etc to make their chips, and they expect to mine 200mn worth of btc 702223;1401895782;mircea_popescu;seems a scary tight margin put in those terms, but who knows. 702224;1401895862;mircea_popescu;also seems they have no intention to even try doing amortisation accounting on the mining rigs 702225;1401895920;mike_c;well, depreciation. amortization is for non-real things. 702226;1401896004;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00085411 = 2.8613 BTC [-] 702227;1401896062;mircea_popescu;i can imagine why. 702228;1401896072;mircea_popescu;hm 702229;1401896090;mircea_popescu;mike_c, so how are miners real things 702230;1401896116;mike_c;physical machines seem like a tangible asset 702231;1401896134;mircea_popescu;they indeed seem that way. 702232;1401896138;mircea_popescu;but why would they be ? 702233;1401896142;benkay;remember the conversation about the s.mg server? 702234;1401896151;mircea_popescu;a dream machine made out of a block of obsidian is tangible too ? 702235;1401896157;mircea_popescu;benkay, no ? 702236;1401896179;benkay;there was a minor dust-up over the semantics of renting v owning. 702237;1401896186;mircea_popescu;aa that yes. 702238;1401896199;mircea_popescu;mike_c, consider one of the safeguards is used and bricks a generation of asics. 702239;1401896206;mircea_popescu;they're just as tangible now than before, what are they worth ? 702240;1401896210;mike_c;nothing. 702241;1401896217;mircea_popescu;this seems to me to fly in the face of the ~fundamental~ point of tangibility 702242;1401896230;mircea_popescu;granted that the form of it favours your interpretation 702243;1401896244;mike_c;tangible assets are always overstated in value though 702244;1401896249;mircea_popescu;but all in all this is a fine example of why i said in the past that bitcoin fucks everything up. it ruined the notion of bonds similarly. 702245;1401896257;benkay;i had a hilarious experience last night 702246;1401896269;benkay;some noob was all fired to undercut a regular on the local btc circuit 702247;1401896276;benkay;make some dollars 702248;1401896294;benkay;opened his PHONE WALLET to discover that due to its dependency on the blockchain API he was SHIT OUT OF BITCOINS. 702249;1401896342;benkay;it was awesome. much lectures on understanding what the fuck you're playing with and how it's not a fucking toy were dispensed. 702250;1401896348;benkay;then i bought from a pro. using laptops. 702251;1401896383;benkay;sorry for interrupting the magic computers discussion 702252;1401896495;benkay;http://bitbet.us/bet/858/ << lol @ bitbet trolling for gracious donations 702253;1401896496;assbot;BitBet - Perpetual Obsolescence: iOS 8 Announced in 2014 :: 0.22 B (96%) on Yes, 0.01 B (4%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 93`313 (100`000 to 1) 702254;1401896524;mircea_popescu; it was awesome. << kik pretty good 702255;1401896614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07398283 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {2} 702256;1401896635;mike_c;not only is some dumbass trying to bet after the event, but he bets a whopping 20 cents. 702257;1401896674;mircea_popescu;lean betting 702258;1401896691;benkay; im gonna consider sponsoring some people i don't know, because i have no friends and don't know anybody. // this is the same problem i have with figuring out which trade shows to attend. i can't find a pattern to which ones produce leads, so i have to make a bunch of mistakes and learn to sniff out the frauds myself. 702259;1401896713;benkay;some day my noodle will dry out 702260;1401896725;mircea_popescu;!up bitstein 702261;1401896754;mircea_popescu;benkay, pretty much th estory of business since niniveh 702262;1401896854;benkay; gotta love people that send you gpg mail and dutifully include a complete summary in the subject line // even better are cleartext responses quoting the original message 702263;1401896856;benkay;FIRED. 702264;1401896914;bitcoinpete;lol usagi sent me a cleartext email the same day he negrated me 702265;1401896951;bitcoinpete;so i sent an email back to his otc email, a different one than the he'd previously sent from and… message delayed/lost in ether 702266;1401896967;bitcoinpete;gpg too hard obv 702267;1401897057;bitcoinpete;http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-argentine-memo-to-evade-bondholders-2014-6 702268;1401897057;assbot;Leaked Argentine Memo To Evade Bondholders - Business Insider 702269;1401897096;bitcoinpete;"the memo suggests that perhaps the country isn't eager to pay off all of its creditors." 702270;1401897107;bitcoinpete;usa in 10 years 702271;1401897117;bitcoinpete;maybe 20 702272;1401897124;bitcoinpete;maybe 5 702273;1401897187;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: mike_c, consider one of the safeguards is used and bricks a generation of asics. << like moving to sha512 or…? 702274;1401897230;mircea_popescu;nah, there's some extra bytes to be able to brick asics 702275;1401897293;bitcoinpete;no grok... 702276;1401897321;chetty;re-education camps are here: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/06/03/baker-forced-to-make-gay-wedding-cakes-undergo-sensitivity-training-after/ 702277;1401897321;assbot;Baker forced to make gay wedding cakes, undergo sensitivity training, after losing lawsuit | Fox News 702278;1401897347;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79400 @ 0.0008569 = 68.0379 BTC [+] {3} 702279;1401897366;CheckDavid;:D 702280;1401897382;mircea_popescu;wtf bullshi tis that 702281;1401897387;CheckDavid;mircea_popescu: you made assbot trust me so I can voice? 702282;1401897432;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid 702283;1401897433;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znkzsxuxaicnqsnr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 12:52:24 2014 702284;1401897436;mircea_popescu;nope. 702285;1401897453;mircea_popescu;o yah, yeah i think ytou were added to the list back when 702286;1401897463;CheckDavid;Oh. Thanks 702287;1401897516;CheckDavid;Kickstarter doesn't allow btc or does it? 702288;1401897541;CheckDavid;I heard one can implement btc payments in there somehow though 702289;1401897558;CheckDavid;Not sure if accurate 702290;1401897591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.02684972 BTC to 8`428 shares, 24049 satoshi per share 702291;1401897742;mike_c;this cracks me up. hipster lorem ipsum: http://hipsum.co/?paras=4&type=hipster-centric 702292;1401897742;assbot;Hipster Ipsum | Artisanal filler text for your site or project. 702293;1401897793;princessnell;chetty terrible. i need to gtfo like yesterday. 702294;1401897824;chetty;buenos aries is nice princessnell 702295;1401897859;chetty;gasenwagens are next 702296;1401897875;princessnell;chetty the conference seems so far away. might need to scope out the place beforehand. 702297;1401898031;benkay;i just learned about the doge "soak" 702298;1401898197;benkay;re: gay bakery - don't ever tell anyone why you're refusing to do business with them. 'this just isn't a good deal for me. thanks for your interest.' 702299;1401898220;danielpbarron;^ ++ 702300;1401898295;mike_c;that doesn't work for a bakery. you can't serve 10 customers cake and then tell the black guy "this isn't a good deal for me". 702301;1401898311;danielpbarron;"i'm all out of cake" 702302;1401898346;benkay;there are just so many ways to do it, though mike_c 702303;1401898352;benkay;10x the normal rate 702304;1401898356;benkay;100x the normal rate 702305;1401898373;danielpbarron;i'd just make the homos their stupid cake and then tweet about how homosexuals should be stoned to death later that night 702306;1401898374;mike_c;and why are you changing the rate? because the guy is gay? doesn't work. 702307;1401898386;benkay;changing what rate? each customer only sees their own quote 702308;1401898397;benkay;unless of course you're publishing prices 702309;1401898399;benkay;for custom work 702310;1401898443;mike_c;meh, i don't think it works irl. just make the guy a cake. wtf does the baker care? you don't go to hell for making gay cakes. 702311;1401898460;benkay;but you go to the gulag for saying "naw faggot get out" 702312;1401898468;mike_c;yeah, so? 702313;1401898474;mircea_popescu;mike_c, pretty good lol 702314;1401898475;benkay;don't say that 702315;1401898476;mircea_popescu;ETSY! 702316;1401898507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02124 = 0.1699 BTC [+] 702317;1401898537;mircea_popescu; re: gay bakery - don't ever tell anyone why you're refusing to do business with them. 'this just isn't a good deal for me. thanks for your interest. << hyou know this is how the VC circus was born right ? bankers thinking it imprident to laugh in the face of "businessmen" 702318;1401898550;mircea_popescu;led retarded kids with no negative feedback in a positive feedback loop 702319;1401898559;benkay;sure 702320;1401898566;benkay;but the baker answers to a higher power 702321;1401898567;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.02513275 = 0.1759 BTC [-] 702322;1401898588;mircea_popescu;which is why there should be no higher power than a baker 702323;1401898591;princessnell;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/04/mayday-pac-tech_n_5442230.html 702324;1401898591;assbot;Tech Titans From Both Parties Get Behind Super PAC To End All Super PACs 702325;1401898596;benkay;some day. 702326;1401898605;princessnell;Peter Thiel getting behind campaign finance reform 702327;1401898631;danielpbarron;how can you even tell the cake is for a gay wedding? i'm guess it has two groom figurines on the top; is it against the law to have a rule that no cake may have two male figurines on top? 702328;1401898665;danielpbarron;or "the customer must buy the figurines separately and apply them himself" 702329;1401898668;TomServo;Isn't the real humor re: the gay cake the fact that this ruling occurred in a state in which gay marriage is illegal? 702330;1401898690;Mats_cd03;that war chest needs about three more zeros to make a difference 702331;1401898706;asciilifeform;'GET /wallet.zip HTTP/1.1' from 46.36.222.156 port 49375', 'GET /bitcoin.zip...' [same], lol, is the tard on freenode? 702332;1401898718;mike_c;danielpbarron: you going to have a rule against black figurines on your cakes too? 702333;1401898744;danielpbarron;mike_c, I wouldn't, but would that be illegal? 702334;1401898748;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, i wonder if this is how usagi backups 702335;1401898797;mike_c;is discrimination illegal? generally, yes. 702336;1401898814;mircea_popescu;discrimination can't be illegal. 702337;1401898820;danielpbarron;how is that discrimination? the rule isn't no black customers; it's no black figurines 702338;1401898845;mircea_popescu;lol the kid shows promise 702339;1401898849;chetty;well its the {must have sensitiveity training' that gets me 702340;1401898859;benkay;wait hang on i figured it out 702341;1401898866;benkay;"don't transact with the masses" 702342;1401898873;asciilifeform;'GET /backups/'..., 'GET /btc/'..., 'GET /safe/'..., 'GET /backup.zip'..., 'GET /.svn/entries' << lol! 702343;1401898875;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron, it will be argued that it is in fact discriminatory on the racist presumption that it disproportionately affects black customers, as if they absolutely have to have black figurines on their wedding cake. 702344;1401898908;mircea_popescu;which is why all this nonsense is so funny, all the racism involved in the arguments against discrimination. 702345;1401898975;mike_c;danielpbarron: you are trying to be cute with the rules, but that is just bullshit. why do you have the rule against black figurines? because you hate blacks. 702346;1401898994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02513275 = 0.2513 BTC [-] 702347;1401899018;chetty;I once had to go to a racism class when I was pregnant, some derp said something about pregnant and barefoot women in the kitchen so I took my shoes off and said 'which way?' 702348;1401899053;moiety;ok moving time, see yous later! 702349;1401899062;Naphex;hey xmj troll me with some marketing voodoo about startups i am in the mood:) 702350;1401899065;danielpbarron;just to clarify, I don't have a problem with blacks, but so what? if you don't like that someone hates blacks then don't do business with them 702351;1401899093;danielpbarron;nobody is entitled to the service of having a wedding cake made for them 702352;1401899102;mike_c;"so what" is that a lot of people don't find racism/sexism/homophobia something to simply be ignored. 702353;1401899125;mike_c;because then you end up with half your country owning slaves. 702354;1401899128;danielpbarron;a lot of people do really stupid things 702355;1401899130;chetty;well we have lost 'we reserve the right to refuse service' 702356;1401899140;davout;danielpbarron: in france we have this "refus de vente" offense, you can't just select your customers if you're selling to the general public 702357;1401899143;danielpbarron;mike_c, what does slavery have to do with hating blacks?? 702358;1401899161;danielpbarron;mike_c, I am pro-slavery and I don't argue it from a racial point of view 702359;1401899171;davout;mircea_popescu: "which is why there should be no higher power than a baker" <<< such amen 702360;1401899177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00085472 = 14.1029 BTC [-] 702361;1401899188;asciilifeform;over here, 'right to refuse service' is alive and well in... pubs. it is permitted when based on particular clothing. which the 'untermenschen' helpfully insist on wearing. 702362;1401899250;xmj;Naphex: yawn 702363;1401899272;Naphex;funny they let me in everywhere dressed in anything when they see my pockets filled with cash ^.^ 702364;1401899273;xmj;now i get shat on for describing reality. ffu 702365;1401899276;xmj;Naphex: troll someone else 702366;1401899280;danielpbarron;yeah, clubs in NYC turn you away for having the "wrong shoes" which some argue is vailed racism (they are basically saying, blacks don't have nice shoes) 702367;1401899298;Naphex;what about rapppers? 702368;1401899318;fluffypony;I like wrap 702369;1401899321;xmj;Naphex: I've made the same experiences, fwiw. once they notice you're about to spend decent cash.. attire is secondary 702370;1401899323;davout;asciilifeform: i guess it's not really comparable (we have that too in france, you need to be dressed up to get into nightclubs), thing is, the "dressed-up" criteria is based on measurable things that are laid out beforehand, not on whether oyu like or dislike someone 702371;1401899326;Naphex;http://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2012/04/11/fab-or-fail-jeremy-scott-gorilla-adidas-as-seen-on-amber-rose-and-a-ap-rocky/_jcr_content/featuredMedia/newsitemimage.newsimage.dimg/041112-fashion-beauty-2-chainz-gorilla-adidas-shoes.jpg those some nice shoes 702372;1401899362;asciilifeform;davout: not quite the same thing. it's 'no caps', 'no pants with wide bottoms', etc. rather than 'must have civilized suit' 702373;1401899390;davout;asciilifeform: yeah but it's measurable and not based on *who* wears the clothing 702374;1401899397;asciilifeform;the folks for whom these items are mandatory, 'national' clothing stay out. and don't seem to complain. 702375;1401899427;benkay;go once, conform to rules, make friends, spend money, return wearing cap. no problems. 702376;1401899452;Naphex;see benkay knows how to infiltrate 702377;1401899471;davout;i mean, the whole baker thing sounds pretty retarded anyway, if i went to a baker that refuses jews i wouldn't insist on giving him business 702378;1401899481;Naphex;:))) 702379;1401899486;asciilifeform;davout owns a time machine? 702380;1401899504;davout;asciilifeform: yes, designed by apple in california 702381;1401899508;davout;:D 702382;1401899513;chetty;davout, but thats the point, they do it to push agenda, not to get cake 702383;1401899540;davout;fucking gayminists 702384;1401899640;fluffypony;gomunists 702385;1401899774;mike_c;you assholes got my bp up. who needs coffee. 702386;1401899811;mike_c;http://xkcd.com/386/ 702387;1401899811;assbot;xkcd: Duty Calls 702388;1401899822;davout;mike_c: word 702389;1401899837;xmj;infiltration is piece of cake :) 702390;1401899886;xmj;http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/access_mod.html << very good short story. 702391;1401899887;assbot;Access 702392;1401900017;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: You know the other planes that have the same paint job, but are no where near the president's location in the world 702393;1401900088;BingoBoingo;Eh, /, is the suck. They traded my link for abc news 702394;1401900178;TomServo;BingoBoingo: That's weak. 702395;1401900195;TomServo;BingoBoingo: "if-it's-not-money,-it's-close-enough-for-government-work dept." are those your words? 702396;1401900302;BingoBoingo;TomServo: Nah 702397;1401900493;BingoBoingo;%book 702398;1401900494;atcbot;3k@180 5k@175 2k@170 | 48k@141 25k@141 100k@140 702399;1401900553;mircea_popescu;"As-salamu 'alaykum 702400;1401900554;mircea_popescu;We wish to introduce to you to our investment financial program which 702401;1401900554;mircea_popescu;is deemed at giving financial credits to legitimate individuals and 702402;1401900554;mircea_popescu;corporate firms for a good ROI." 702403;1401900594;mircea_popescu;"We target growing entrepreneurs and businessmen in the world. I also wish to bring to your notice, our company's interest to provide financing for individuals and corporate bodies alike in great business opportunities." 702404;1401900611;mircea_popescu;ycombinator needs to fucking stop sending stuff. 702405;1401900658;fluffypony;for a moment I was hoping that was on the forum 702406;1401900932;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: mike_c: http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b58 i dont see the funds https://blockchain.info/address/17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR << looking into this. 702407;1401900932;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June :: 4.75 B (10%) on Yes, 41.24 B (90%) on No | closed 1 week 3 days ago 702408;1401900932;assbot;Bitcoin Address 17HvePmDqPnKjZ79FrB1yicZPqyxTN4BnR 702409;1401901007;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 4248 @ 0.00047259 = 2.0076 BTC [-] {3} 702410;1401901041;benkay; see benkay knows how to infiltrate // it's a joo 702411;1401901044;benkay; see benkay knows how to infiltrate // it's a joo thing 702412;1401901097;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: your bits are too slow << URBITS! 702413;1401901129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 205 @ 0.00387492 = 0.7944 BTC [-] {7} 702414;1401901161;mircea_popescu; danielpbarron: you are trying to be cute with the rules, but that is just bullshit. why do you have the rule against black figurines? because you hate blacks. << how serious are you ?! 702415;1401901185;mike_c;well, relatively serious. is there some other reason you would refuse to use black figurines? 702416;1401901190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.003801 = 0.1596 BTC [-] 702417;1401901205;mircea_popescu; because then you end up with half your country owning slaves. << to the great benefit of all those involved. 702418;1401901256;mircea_popescu; funny they let me in everywhere dressed in anything when they see my pockets filled with cash ^.^ << this guy has a real cash fetish :D 702419;1401901286;Naphex;i don't 702420;1401901288;Naphex;other people do 702421;1401901350;mircea_popescu;mike_c, i dunno dood, maybe you don't like the ingredients that have to be used to make it be black. 702422;1401901350;Naphex;i like bitcoins:D 702423;1401901367;mircea_popescu;it's such nonsenbse this, that your particular meaning is somehow part of objects now. 702424;1401901382;mike_c;not part of objects, part of behavior. 702425;1401901385;mircea_popescu;every culture is free to create its own set of names for the constellations wtf. 702426;1401901424;chetty;hey they can even draw new ones if they like, dont change the stars 702427;1401901432;mircea_popescu;mike_c, you against flag burning too ? 702428;1401901454;mike_c;no 702429;1401901459;mircea_popescu;so legt me get this straight 702430;1401901474;mircea_popescu;if i make two paper figurines, one black, one red-white aqnd burn both 702431;1401901481;mircea_popescu;your bp is going up over a selective subset of this ? 702432;1401901523;mike_c;thinking.. 702433;1401901532;mircea_popescu;"behaviour" is a cop out. the tendency is to put meaning into objects, which is a task for they who've hunted snipes successfully. 702434;1401901622;mike_c;some people "hate americans" and act accordingly. I think this is retarded, but it doesn't upset me. some people "hate homos" and act accordingly, yet this does upset me. 702435;1401901640;mike_c;perhaps this is inconsistent. 702436;1401901652;Naphex;well i hate people who hate animals 702437;1401901656;Naphex;and act accordingly 702438;1401901671;Naphex;and i act accordingly when i see people acting accordingly to hating animals 702439;1401901673;danielpbarron;<+mike_c> well, relatively serious. is there some other reason you would refuse to use black figurines? << there needn't be any other reason; is it my business or not? 702440;1401901681;mircea_popescu;it goes much deeper than that mike_c. some years ago, in the days of the johnny cash, trolls burned the flag much to the dismay of the right "silent majority", which was mocked by the progressive left. 702441;1401901701;mircea_popescu;meanwhile that progressive left has ossified into a "silent majority", and... well... trolls are burning black men much to their display. 702442;1401901712;mircea_popescu;if this isn't a sad exercise into becoming everything you've hated about the stupidity of your parents 702443;1401901715;mircea_popescu;i dunno what would be. 702444;1401901778;mike_c;so what's your point? that I shouldn't care about other people's idiocy? or is it that it isn't stupid to be racist/homophobic. 702445;1401901781;mircea_popescu;at any raqte, the notion that anyone burned the flag "because they hated america" was so fucking ridiculojus back then 702446;1401901787;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You just might win the Halep bet 702447;1401901792;mircea_popescu;quite obviously everyone did it to piss off the people who get pissed off by these things 702448;1401901807;mircea_popescu;mike_c, my point is that you can't pretend like meaning is immanent. it's not. 702449;1401901815;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, W00t 702450;1401901819;mircea_popescu;where 00 are b00bies 702451;1401901837;BingoBoingo;I thought she lost them, because they were holding her back 702452;1401901854;BingoBoingo;http://fairplaydeprahova.altphel.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/simona-halep-pic-getty-568887852-396666.jpg 702453;1401901857;danielpbarron;why is racism always lumped in with hating homosexuals, and why is hating homosexuals lumped in with homophobia? I'm not afraid of them, lol 702454;1401901859;mike_c;but there often is meaning. flag burning is dumb. but refusing service based on race/gay/sex does have meaning. 702455;1401901863;mircea_popescu;so she's going to 4ever be remember as that nigger that didn't need em to have em :D 702456;1401901894;BingoBoingo;I mean she's now two wins away from the trophy or whatever the fuck they play over. 702457;1401901901;mircea_popescu;mike_c, seems a distinction devoid of difference, entirely made out of your own interest. 702458;1401901935;BingoBoingo;http://tennis.si.com/2014/06/03/simona-halep-french-open-quarterfinals/ 702459;1401901936;assbot;Photos: Is Simona Halep the most graceful player on the women’s tour? | Beyond The Baseline 702460;1401901957;mircea_popescu;holy shit she has it all huh. 702461;1401901957;chetty;why would it matter to you what some other person thinks? (random person, not friend or anything) 702462;1401901980;mircea_popescu;chetty, because you're insecure about your pile of unexamined groupthink items. 702463;1401901983;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00085472 = 12.8208 BTC [-] 702464;1401901985;danielpbarron;because the lgbt movement isn't about rights; it's the opposite: it's about forcing acceptance on others 702465;1401902002;mike_c;100 people go lynch a black guy. yes, 20 of them only did it because of peer pressure, but 80 of them did do it because they hate/fear/whatever blacks. 702466;1401902012;danielpbarron;"you better at least pretend to like gays.. OR ELSE." 702467;1401902014;mike_c;that doesn't mean there was no meaning to any of it. 702468;1401902032;mircea_popescu;mike_c, it means you can't count on it tho. 702469;1401902050;mircea_popescu;do people killing rats hate rats for that matter ? 702470;1401902056;mike_c;sure, i can't count it. but fuck those 20 guys who did it for dumb reasons too. 702471;1401902060;mircea_popescu;like say an exterminator. 702472;1401902098;danielpbarron;exterminators probably love rats 702473;1401902100;chetty;haha well if you live in DC rat killing is not allowed 702474;1401902104;mike_c;bad analogy. killing rats and/or manuls means nothing. 702475;1401902111;mircea_popescu;oic 702476;1401902121;mircea_popescu;anbd you get to decide which objects carry meanin and which don't and what it is ? 702477;1401902129;mircea_popescu;what are you, like the mp of creation ? 702478;1401902143;mike_c;what's the other option? you don't get to assign meaning to anything? 702479;1401902150;mike_c;"i'm not god, so whatever" 702480;1401902151;mircea_popescu;you get to do it for yourself, 702481;1401902158;mircea_popescu;leave some space for the rest of the world. 702482;1401902307;mike_c;sure, like you left some space for romanians by leaving. you also wrote a blog post telling them they suck on the way out. 702483;1401902317;mircea_popescu;god help us if i happen to think xmj is stupid and xmj happens to think i shouldn't happen to think that. what's that gonna yield, a law against thinking xmjs are stupi ? enacted by ycombinator ? 702484;1401902327;mircea_popescu;this is why there shouldn't be a greater power than a baker in the first placre. 702485;1401902344;xmj;what is wrong with mircea_popescu 702486;1401902348;mircea_popescu;mike_c, i told them they suck while there, too. you don;t know about it because i told THEM 702487;1401902349;xmj;he's deluded. 702488;1401902358;pankkake;how old are you xmj? 702489;1401902367;xmj;27 today. 702490;1401902375;midnightmagic;happy birthday 702491;1401902384;mike_c;hehe. i think we are talking about limits on freedom. you think people should be free to be racist/homophobic. i'm not sure i agree. 702492;1401902407;pankkake;I was already grumpy at 27 702493;1401902410;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00085895 = 7.6876 BTC [+] {2} 702494;1401902412;mircea_popescu;not that far. i;m merely pointing at a certain bit of nonsense you seem to have accidentally swallowed 702495;1401902412;xmj;oh i do agree with that. 702496;1401902430;xmj;pankkake: i think mircea_popescu is stupid for thinking i'm stupid for describing reality as it is. 702497;1401902437;mircea_popescu;by the time there's laws directing the proper behaviour in bakeries the discussion as to whether the state failed or succeedded is moot 702498;1401902440;xmj;go work for a few venture capital-funded startups. 702499;1401902445;xmj;you'll see what i mean. 702500;1401902447;mircea_popescu;both states having collapsed into a singularity. 702501;1401902491;pankkake;it looks like a misunderstanding like only the internet can create 702502;1401902537;Naphex;lol 702503;1401902546;xmj;yeah, no 702504;1401902555;Naphex;xmj: man no matter what startup or the funding, knowing your shit is always good 702505;1401902556;xmj;he thinks i'm describing a should-state 702506;1401902558;fluffypony;http://aeon.co/magazine/world-views/does-america-need-to-make-english-its-official-language/ 702507;1401902559;assbot;Should English be the US official language? Eric C Miller Aeon 702508;1401902561;Naphex;and thinking about your hardware always counts 702509;1401902563;xmj;Naphex: Obviously. 702510;1401902571;Naphex;no matter what lean mean strategy you pull 702511;1401902572;pankkake;yes, that's what it seems 702512;1401902584;Naphex;and also, storing private data on hypervisors you don't control 702513;1401902586;Naphex;makes it insecure 702514;1401902587;Naphex;period 702515;1401902596;Naphex;so thats that with that argument 702516;1401902599;pankkake;can't we just stay meta? 702517;1401902602;xmj;Naphex: case in point: all startups here in estonia i've heard of do not buy hardware but use aws/rackspace/... 702518;1401902616;Naphex;xmj: and that is in no way a good thing 702519;1401902624;Naphex;they may do that, they may thing its correct 702520;1401902625;mircea_popescu;lol looks like Naphex got his wish 702521;1401902628;xmj;AWS is a given in many orgs, rule of thumb is the costs will be one employee. 702522;1401902628;Naphex;but it is not 702523;1401902642;xmj;jo 702524;1401902649;Naphex;+xmj> AWS is a given in many orgs, rule of thumb is the costs will be one employee. 702525;1401902663;Naphex;why not do everything yourself? 702526;1401902666;xmj;(now that's for smaller ones between 10 and 20 people) 702527;1401902678;chetty;I think I just got a new curse word - consensus 702528;1401902683;xmj;Naphex: because it's not part of the "core business" and you don't get seed-funded to do that. 702529;1401902692;xmj;in other words.. don't ask me 702530;1401902695;xmj;ask their COOs 702531;1401902702;asciilifeform;wait was someone seriously arguing for the merits of 'cloud' crapola ?! 702532;1401902704;mike_c;xmj: what percentage of these companies fail? 702533;1401902707;Naphex;what do i care about their co's 702534;1401902714;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, it;s unclear yet. 702535;1401902715;chetty;remember: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpTQOM4CAAEndo0.jpg 702536;1401902715;xmj;mike_c: Most :) 702537;1401902719;Naphex;but don't just go about hosting bitcoins on vps's 702538;1401902726;*;asciilifeform was doing actual work, to his misfortune, must've missed all the good stuff here 702539;1401902726;Naphex;and tell customers they're secure 702540;1401902727;mike_c;most = what? > 90%? > 99%? 702541;1401902737;xmj;probably somewhere like that 702542;1401902745;xmj;i could pull numbers out of my ass 702543;1401902753;mike_c;so why the hell would you be pushing their shitty methodology? 702544;1401902755;xmj;you might just as well read some techcrunch 702545;1401902760;xmj;mike_c: again, I'm not 702546;1401902763;mircea_popescu;* asciilifeform was doing actual work, to his misfortune, must've missed all the good stuff here << we'll get the cardano once b-a becomes boring 702547;1401902773;xmj;mike_c: I describe what I see people doing without value judgment. 702548;1401902774;asciilifeform;lul 702549;1401902843;Naphex;one day a bored aws admin will grep for private keys :) 702550;1401902879;*;chetty now applying for admin job pls 702551;1401902908;Naphex;or lol 702552;1401902911;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 702553;1401902914;Naphex;grep for walletpassphrase (*.) 702554;1401902918;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 649.4, vol: 18742.35969948 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 637.0, vol: 12842.89905 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 650.58, vol: 27676.79113624 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 663.99, vol: 22.30524757 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 643.7664, vol: 7005.07430000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 644.15564, vol: 64.15305076 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 652.944, vol: 88.08421187 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 702555;1401902919;BingoBoingo;;;more 702556;1401902919;gribble;646.905240805 702557;1401902924;Naphex;and wallet.dat 702558;1401902928;BingoBoingo;%book 702559;1401902930;atcbot;3k@180 5k@175 2k@170 | 47k@141 25k@141 100k@140 702560;1401902937;xmj;what could possibly go wrong haha 702561;1401902947;mircea_popescu;Naphex, you saw the earlier lines from asciilifeform ? bitcoin.zip etc 702562;1401902952;xmj;if you must back it up in teh cloud, at least use tarsnap. 702563;1401902961;mircea_popescu;for that matter, am i the only one old enough to remember the reason we don't use linode ? 702564;1401902988;mike_c;i remember the why, but not the who. 702565;1401903005;pankkake;I remember and I had 0 bitcoins at the time even 702566;1401903018;pankkake;another "wtf are those kids doing" moment 702567;1401903021;mircea_popescu;mike_c, slush and bitcoinica. 702568;1401903029;kakobrekla;instawallet ? 702569;1401903040;mike_c;the answer to everything is bitcoinica :) 702570;1401903060;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: "the sec is pleased to announce that it suffered a net loss of only $150,000 in securing mr voorhees' conviction" << it wasn't a conviction. more like "the sec spent 150k for bitcoin people to go "here's a dime go buy something nice for yourself and stfu"" 702571;1401903076;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, nah you recall the breach when a linode emplooyee just ran off with th ewallets 702572;1401903081;danielpbarron;<+mike_c> hehe. i think we are talking about limits on freedom. you think people should be free to be racist/homophobic. i'm not sure i agree. << you think people should be free to commit acts of sodomy; I am *sure* I don't agree. Which one of our sensibilities is more valuable? My solution is: you enforce your anti-racist w/e on your property, and I'll enforce my anti-homo w/e on mine. 702573;1401903086;mircea_popescu;and linode first lied about it, then offered people a 1 month free coupon 702574;1401903090;mircea_popescu;slush ended up covering 4k from pocket 702575;1401903171;pankkake;lol I didn't know about the employee and the coupon. golden 702576;1401903193;mike_c;danielpbarron: you own any apple products? 702577;1401903196;mircea_popescu;this was before wallets were encrypted by the reference client 702578;1401903198;mircea_popescu;!up gabriel_laddel 702579;1401903219;Naphex;man people who host on vps will host their .bash_history and wallet code there as well 702580;1401903225;Naphex;encrypted will do no help 702581;1401903226;pankkake;https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/1629355dd29c480be17f86fbe349f903173ef855/hotelbitcoinica.txt?at=master btw 702582;1401903227;assbot;pankkake / asslyrics / source / hotelbitcoinica.txt — Bitbucket 702583;1401903228;Naphex;cause you can get they key 702584;1401903232;mircea_popescu;Naphex, that too. 702585;1401903240;pankkake;if it's on a virtual instance, you can just inspect the memory 702586;1401903254;Naphex;why bother 702587;1401903261;danielpbarron;<+mike_c> danielpbarron: you own any apple products? << ya; my iPhone is the first and last apple crap i'll ever buy 702588;1401903270;asciilifeform;'some learn from book; others, from example; the rest must piss on the electric fence personally' 702589;1401903277;mike_c;good thing, can't be giving more money to tim cook. 702590;1401903308;danielpbarron;mike_c, everyone is disgusting; I hate everyone. I wouldn't do business with anyone if that were my criteria 702591;1401903322;mike_c;:) 702592;1401903327;mike_c; 702593;1401903339;gabriel_laddel;mike_c: yo: http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/2008%20Med%20Hypotheses.pdf 702594;1401903345;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron, why so angry ? 702595;1401903364;danielpbarron;mircea_popescu, heh i'm not angry; it's Biblical hatred 702596;1401903370;mircea_popescu;ic 702597;1401903382;danielpbarron;all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God 702598;1401903451;diametric;is this guy for real, i can't recall that nick before. 702599;1401903475;mike_c;oh he's serious. you should see when him and Luke-Jr get going. 702600;1401903483;mircea_popescu;god damned usb conventions 702601;1401903496;mircea_popescu;i have 8 cabloes here, and im not even sure i got one for each case ;/ 702602;1401903528;diametric;universal indeed 702603;1401903532;mircea_popescu;diametric, yeah what mike said 702604;1401903555;mircea_popescu;so fucking universal it could be an endangered species for its universality. 702605;1401903576;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.okokchina.com/Files/uppic23/Sell%20USB%20Universal%20Tool%20Bag_Computer%20Usb%20Cable%20Kit286.jpg << example of pill against this 702606;1401903630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02124 = 0.1487 BTC [-] 702607;1401903633;mircea_popescu;sigh 702608;1401903643;mircea_popescu;;;google DE .5 gold plated 702609;1401903644;gribble;Engagement Rings: Buy Engagement Rings in Jewelry at Sears: ; AuroDur Datasheet - RfMW: ; Oscar De La Renta 24-Karat Gold-Plated Drop Earrings - Polyvore: (1 more message) 702610;1401903655;mircea_popescu;holi shyt. 702611;1401903689;mircea_popescu;;;google Desert Eagle which is a .5 hand cannon designed for shooting the idiots that made this mess, gold plated 702612;1401903690;gribble;No matches found. 702613;1401903698;mircea_popescu;i blame mike_c 702614;1401903773;mike_c;;;google desert eagle .50 702615;1401903774;gribble;Desert Eagle, .50 AE, Black - Magnum Research, Inc.: ; Desert Eagle .50 Cal One Handed - YouTube: ; My Wife -vs- the Desert Eagle .50 - YouTube: 702616;1401903781;mircea_popescu;ty. 702617;1401903782;mike_c;americans know how to find guns. 702618;1401903790;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, ^ there is another example. 702619;1401903799;asciilifeform;lol 702620;1401903805;BingoBoingo;http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/03/26/115713_01_desert_eagle_50_ae_gold_tiger__640.jpg 702621;1401903812;BingoBoingo;^ cannon 702622;1401903826;asciilifeform;'eagle', as i understand, is among the more impractical small arms ever sold 702623;1401903842;mike_c;don't call it small, you'll make it mad 702624;1401903853;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, you've been lied to. 702625;1401903856;asciilifeform;wrist destruction machine 702626;1401903868;mircea_popescu;it's not a fucking smg. 702627;1401903971;asciilifeform;reminds me of another peculiar american small arm, often seen in catalogues - the pocket m16. 702628;1401904021;asciilifeform;http://www.twncommunications.net/Other/ARPistol.jpg 702629;1401904023;asciilifeform;^ example 702630;1401904042;fluffypony;mike_c: you'll be pleased to know that I'm sticking to my iPhone, and will probably be getting the iPhone 6 when it comes out 702631;1401904044;fluffypony;:-P 702632;1401904057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 201 @ 0.0037249 = 0.7487 BTC [-] {7} 702633;1401904089;mircea_popescu;this chan will be known in retrospect mostly by the abundance and insistence of heresy 702634;1401904089;mike_c;blech, get an android. i was just looking for ammo. 702635;1401904104;asciilifeform;never know when you might chance upon a rhinoceros. 702636;1401904147;fluffypony;in -otc: [19:47:39] ronkrt: Any investor types that would care to chat about a possible great investment op? 702637;1401904166;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust ronkrt 702638;1401904166;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ronkrt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=ronkrt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ronkrt | Rated since: Mon Jun 2 03:02:14 2014 702639;1401904167;fluffypony;should I give him the support number and tell him he can phone to learn how to IPO? 702640;1401904189;mircea_popescu;let's not troll moiety too much 702641;1401904221;BingoBoingo;Rhinocerous http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/03/29/the-577-tyrannosaur/ 702642;1401904221;assbot;The .577 Tyrannosaur | Shall Not Be Questioned 702643;1401904233;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: neato! have you tried it? 702644;1401904252;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: No. But seems to be actual anti Rhinocerous weapon. 702645;1401904325;BingoBoingo;;;google .700 Nitro Express 702646;1401904325;gribble;.700 Nitro Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; 700 Nitro Express - YouTube: ; Cameron fires the .700 Nitro Express - YouTube: 702647;1401904346;BingoBoingo;^ Moar innovation 702648;1401904403;BingoBoingo;Actually and English one http://www.vincelewis.net/700.html 702649;1401904407;assbot;700 NITRO EXPRESS RIFLE 702650;1401904442;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: if she got it, she wouldn't work for motherboard << isn't this sexist ? shouldn't it be fatherboard ? 702651;1401904469;mike_c;personboard 702652;1401904471;asciilifeform;http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/13481/13752380_1.jpg?v=8CF480C988D3E10 702653;1401904491;asciilifeform;why settle for half-measures. 702654;1401904575;BingoBoingo;Very good question 702655;1401904595;asciilifeform;there used to be surplus 'lahti' (finland) on u.s. market 702656;1401904599;asciilifeform;no idea what happened to that 702657;1401904623;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/L39.jpg 702658;1401904653;asciilifeform;20mm 702659;1401905705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0738486 = 0.2954 BTC [+] 702660;1401905948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02108045 = 0.1054 BTC [-] {4} 702661;1401905993;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: 702662;1401905994;mircea_popescu;"The SECs investigation was conducted by Daphna A. Waxman, Daphne P. Downes, and Philip R. Moustakis of the New York Regional Office. Ms Waxman's contribution was particularly unimpressive; she has left the SEC to pursue other ventures." << wtf that's a quote ?! 702663;1401906106;mircea_popescu;pankkake: it's weird to name yourself bitcoinwoman << about as weird as bitcoingirl. kinda lulzy how female identity is constructed in th eeng;lish space 702664;1401906114;mircea_popescu;"you know pete ? well im like pete, but a woman" 702665;1401906121;mircea_popescu;or, "i'm the woman with pete" 702666;1401906122;mircea_popescu;etc. 702667;1401906140;mircea_popescu;ultimate derivative product. 702668;1401906157;mircea_popescu;at least derpy guys understand that bitcoinman doesn't work, so they go for bitcoinjezuz instead 702669;1401906196;mircea_popescu;i guess since there are no famous or remarkable women in history, women can't do the same thing. wtf is bitcoinmarymagdalene. 702670;1401906215;mircea_popescu;and so that's the gripe with patriarchy : it gave it easy to guys. there we go, i now understand 4th wave feminism. 702671;1401906229;mircea_popescu;they're butthurt that guys can go "bitcoinjesus" but they have to go "bitcoingirl" 702672;1401906236;mike_c;bitcoinoprah? 702673;1401906256;mircea_popescu;she;s fat. 702674;1401906263;mike_c;only ever other season 702675;1401906267;mike_c;*every 702676;1401906288;mircea_popescu;what 20yo underfed white chick from milkaukee is going to indentify herself with a 60yo aretha franklin lookalike 702677;1401906302;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639056.0 never stops to entertain 702678;1401906303;assbot;HEDGE FUND BTC 702679;1401906330;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Arethra doesn't look Oprah bad 702680;1401906346;pankkake;bitcoinjoanofarc 702681;1401906349;mircea_popescu;i can't tell black people apart because i'm racist. 702682;1401906354;mircea_popescu;they all look the same to me. 702683;1401906367;pankkake;can you tell koreans apart? 702684;1401906387;mircea_popescu;only by height. 702685;1401906394;mircea_popescu;"I'm the owner Hedge Fund BTC list today in BitcoinBourse ticker HFB and Hedge Fund LTC list today in LitecoinInvest ticker HFLTC. Today BitcoinBourse change terms for merchants. I consider than are unacceptables." 702686;1401906419;mircea_popescu;(i;m an asshole, i can't tell most people apart. also i'm famous for thinking most women are blonde etc) 702687;1401906423;BingoBoingo;Wait, is dotcoin complaining about himself nao? 702688;1401906431;pankkake;bitcoinbourse is also female 702689;1401906439;mircea_popescu;that's bitcoinpourse 702690;1401906441;mircea_popescu;different. 702691;1401906463;mircea_popescu;(can you tell them apart ?) 702692;1401906469;mike_c;nobody can tell other races apart. your brain is wired from childhood to be sensitive to distinctions in your own race's facial features. 702693;1401906483;mircea_popescu;i can tell jews apart... 702694;1401906492;mike_c;then you got some of that blood in you somewhere 702695;1401906509;mircea_popescu;im sure some grandmother musta fucked a nigger at some point, what's this. 702696;1401906614;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: bitcoinnoether? 702697;1401906619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16546 @ 0.00085615 = 14.1659 BTC [-] {3} 702698;1401906667;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, no see, they'd have had to read to know that. like, books 702699;1401906671;mircea_popescu;what good is it if you gotta work for it. 702700;1401906672;asciilifeform;lol 702701;1401906705;mircea_popescu;ok bitbet payments should have b4een caught up 702702;1401906723;mircea_popescu;If BitcoinBourse don't reconsiders her new maintenance fees perhaps we need to any of this: 702703;1401906724;mircea_popescu;- Migrate to any other exchange. 702704;1401906730;mircea_popescu;o noes, what do they charge now ? 702705;1401906908;Naphex;Bitcoin is money for internet. Internet money good. Buy some. Price go up. You spend. Everyone happy. 702706;1401906910;Naphex;" " 702707;1401906913;Naphex;forgot the quotes 702708;1401906949;punkman;Naphex: who's that 702709;1401907026;mircea_popescu;tarzan. 702710;1401907046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00085239 = 34.7775 BTC [-] 702711;1401907097;Naphex;some guy from reddit 702712;1401907100;Naphex;just foind it funny 702713;1401907101;asciilifeform;in unrelated news, the wikiwagen seems to have vanished from the vacant lot it lived in, on my street. not long after i last mentioned it here. 702714;1401907107;asciilifeform;http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_20/Anonymous-is-engaged-in-a-battle-for-truth-over-evil-Christine-Ann-Sands-0846 702715;1401907108;assbot;Anonymous is engaged in battle for truth over evil Christine Ann Sands - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video 702716;1401907115;asciilifeform;^ purported interview with owner 702717;1401907200;asciilifeform;http://anonomobile.com 702718;1401907202;assbot;ANONOMOBILE | Anonymous Mobile Unit | Government Transparency Intelligence Task Force 702719;1401907204;asciilifeform;^ honeypot on wheels 702720;1401907227;punkman;lol 702721;1401907301;punkman;"God has appointed Anonymous and WikiLeaks to reveal the truth and Occupy to guard it.  John 8:32" 702722;1401907307;punkman;so they are into god now? 702723;1401907313;asciilifeform;check out the pr0n in the comment thread 702724;1401907375;asciilifeform;poor woman, seems like the shitter in the van doesn't work. there's a portable latrine on the grounds. 702725;1401907387;bitstein;;;later tell bitcoinpete This one's dedicated to you: https://twitter.com/Bitstein/status/474257865360678913 702726;1401907388;assbot;"Hi, I'm Dr Steve Brule with BitAngels. Wanna make some money with your cool bit-Coins? Buy /hashtag/MaidSafe?src=hash, ya dummies!" http://t.co/V9JrwDyGGe 702727;1401907388;gribble;The operation succeeded. 702728;1401907451;asciilifeform;a few days ago, i take an evening walk, see the place - no wikiwagen, the other (unmarked) bus on the grounds also gone, two women poking at what looks like the remains of a ruined bicycle. 702729;1401907522;mircea_popescu;bitstein, can you translate for the slow ? 702730;1401907558;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, you don't have enough experience to recognise a symbian once it's been used by a progressive, i take it ? 702731;1401907563;Naphex;well 702732;1401907565;Naphex;steve brule 702733;1401907578;Naphex;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6a8dAGO1Uo 702734;1401907579;assbot;Brown's Day Care -Dr Steve Brule - YouTube 702735;1401907580;mircea_popescu;Naphex, is that anything like creme 702736;1401907580;jurov;selling rubbermaid? 702737;1401907581;mircea_popescu;? 702738;1401907591;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: symbian, the dumbphone os ? 702739;1401907605;asciilifeform;a bit lost here 702740;1401907607;mircea_popescu;;;google symbian, the machine that'll fuck any fatty. 702741;1401907608;gribble;News - hestengen-dressage.dk: ; The six best fitness apps :: Men's Health: ; Croatian Aristocracy: Royals: 702742;1401907611;asciilifeform;sybian. 702743;1401907621;mircea_popescu;letters, they're all the same. 702744;1401907623;mircea_popescu;why discriminate. 702745;1401907633;asciilifeform;i must confess, didn't knock on the door of the wagen, didn't see if one was installed. 702746;1401907645;bitstein;mircea_popescu, just watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UyIUcF57js&index=3&list=PL89BD7F7EC13090C8 702747;1401907645;assbot;Keep 'Em Outside | Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! | Adult Swim - YouTube 702748;1401907651;asciilifeform;i do wonder as to the objective: poor lamer knocks on the door, invited for tea, vivisected ? 702749;1401907661;mircea_popescu;just bored to death i bet. 702750;1401907661;asciilifeform;didn't care to find out 702751;1401907721;Naphex;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g31nLatyci4#t=395 watch and see a huge peter schiff having a brainfart 702752;1401907721;assbot;Buying Gold With Bitcoin Just Got Easier - YouTube 702753;1401907726;Naphex;on the value of bitcoin 702754;1401907796;Naphex;"the people made gold money, not the goverments" 702755;1401907798;Naphex;olol 702756;1401907820;Naphex;"and gold wouldn't have ever value if the people wouldn't have done that, but bitcoin has no value":o 702757;1401907845;mircea_popescu;wtf derpage is this 702758;1401907850;mircea_popescu;of course the lord made gold money. 702759;1401907856;bitstein;Look at this innovative monetary technology you can get your hands on with Bitcoin now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cNwaA5sNr8 702760;1401907856;assbot;Valcambi CombiBar - The New Gold Standard in Gold - YouTube 702761;1401907880;mircea_popescu;the people were invented in 1797 what the fuck is this bullshit, "the people" 702762;1401907958;asciilifeform;'Once there was The PeopleTerror gave it birth; Once there was The People and it made a Hell of Earth. Earth arose and crushed it. Listen, O ye slain! Once there was The Peopleit shall never be again!' - mr k 702763;1401907991;Naphex;so much bull from that peter schiff 702764;1401907994;Naphex;about legs 702765;1401907995;Naphex;and pulls 702766;1401908023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07150001 = 0.5005 BTC [-] 702767;1401908049;mircea_popescu;yoiu don't understand the knowledge. 702768;1401908073;mircea_popescu;btw, what's anyone think of the new trilema header ? 702769;1401908083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30392 @ 0.00085196 = 25.8928 BTC [-] {2} 702770;1401908101;Naphex;looks good 702771;1401908117;Naphex;staring down the crowd 702772;1401908163;Naphex;i wonder all the people who think you don't exist or are some anon troll, who do they think you place on the header pictures?:) 702773;1401908193;mircea_popescu;ken slaughter. 702774;1401908205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 110 @ 0.02128336 = 2.3412 BTC [+] {4} 702775;1401908211;mircea_popescu;alternatively, most of them can't read trilema because it is painful. 702776;1401908340;mike_c;trilema cookie bug? I re-cookied, I can read articles, but homepage keeps giving me paywall. credits are showing correctly in top right. 702777;1401908377;mircea_popescu;mike_c, possibly, will examine. 702778;1401908388;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.19665766 BTC [-] 702779;1401908449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.1950481 = 0.3901 BTC [-] 702780;1401908473;mike_c;i like the new pic btw. the greenery is nice. 702781;1401908510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.195048 BTC [-] 702782;1401908533;mircea_popescu;a ty 702783;1401908581;Naphex;so.. if the difficulty adjusts itself to do sha256 for 10 minutes, isn't bitcoin backed by TIME? 702784;1401908584;Naphex;*woah* 702785;1401908604;Apocalyptic;*mind blown* 702786;1401908630;Naphex;someone should give that to the presses to annoy all silver/gold/money bugs 702787;1401908632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.194 BTC [-] 702788;1401908693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19850168 = 1.191 BTC [+] {2} 702789;1401908734;Naphex;so yeah maybe proof of work is the future future 702790;1401908743;Naphex;how else can you pack 10 minutes of yard work 702791;1401908754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.19383404 = 0.3877 BTC [-] {2} 702792;1401908864;mircea_popescu;yes. 702793;1401908872;mircea_popescu;and time conquers all. 702794;1401908882;Naphex;nothing else more valuable 702795;1401908991;danielpbarron;14:54:18 <+mircea_popescu> btw, what's anyone think of the new trilema header ? << i kinda miss the monopoly one, even though all the later ones have looked better an an aesthetic sense 702796;1401908998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8337 @ 0.00085801 = 7.1532 BTC [+] {2} 702797;1401909095;mircea_popescu;they're in a rotation, it'll come back eventually. 702798;1401909273;mircea_popescu;!up phlurker 702799;1401909760;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu how about this one? 702800;1401909761;los_pantalones;http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/scrooge_mcduck_math.jpg 702801;1401909774;los_pantalones;for a banner 702802;1401909798;mircea_popescu;a) it myust be 1024 wide ; b) i don't own the copyright 702803;1401909810;los_pantalones;oh damn your practical objections! 702804;1401909918;mircea_popescu;LOL 702805;1401909974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0728399 = 0.2185 BTC [+] 702806;1401910096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.19665809 BTC [+] 702807;1401910207;Naphex;i have a question, why is XRP volume so high 702808;1401910213;Naphex;specifically for Justcoin for example 702809;1401910218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.19665852 BTC [+] 702810;1401910219;Naphex;http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/ 702811;1401910222;assbot;Bitcoin Charts / Markets 702812;1401910287;fluffypony;Naphex: dumpers gotta dump? 702813;1401910313;Naphex;no it was high before as well 702814;1401910324;mike_c;24h volume is 16 btc, is that high? 702815;1401910339;mike_c;<< knows little about ripple 702816;1401910349;Naphex;mike_c: their BTCEUR volume is 12 702817;1401910362;Naphex;and its consistently higher then BTCEUR 702818;1401910367;mircea_popescu;mike_c, fixed ? 702819;1401910385;mike_c;mircea_popescu: fixed. 702820;1401910418;Naphex;i don't care about ripple, but kept noticing it and wondered if they pump the volume on exchanges that accept XRP or what 702821;1401910431;Naphex;i don't see much interest in xrp anyway and all the news i bet didn't help 702822;1401910641;*;mircea_popescu reloads http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ for the 5th time today 702823;1401910642;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 702824;1401910711;mircea_popescu;TomServo: wasn't there a wife too? << yeah lol. she wanted me to not condescend her. 702825;1401910771;mircea_popescu;princessnell: i used to think to myself "well, these women are at least promoting the tech in a way that other women can understand." but they're only thinking of it as a consumption tool, which is worse than doing nothing at all. << by george, nell got it exactly. 702826;1401910790;mircea_popescu;more consumers is pretty much the least needed thing, above more plastic containers even. 702827;1401910894;mircea_popescu;pankkake, https://unsee.cc/mabozise/ <<< hyou know this looks like a twink do you ? 702828;1401910896;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 702829;1401910936;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twink_(gay_slang) lol 702830;1401910936;assbot;Twink (gay slang) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 702831;1401911001;pankkake;when shaved I have a tendency to attract the gay. hard fail on "little or no body hair, and no facial hair" 702832;1401911001;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, "Maybe Goldman Sachs execs will be unemployed and busy holding an Occupy Bitcoin protest outside Andreas Tower." 702833;1401911010;mircea_popescu;dude it must be crazy to live in there. 702834;1401911023;fluffypony;lol 702835;1401911031;mircea_popescu;you;ve given my crew indigestion. 702836;1401911043;fluffypony;Andreas Tower is going to be awesome 702837;1401911082;mircea_popescu;"derp. o god i can't read those comments." etc 702838;1401911102;fluffypony;right next to the Tsukino Usagi Center For Kids Who Can'T Backup Good And Want To Learn To Do Other Things Good Too 702839;1401911114;Apocalyptic;haha 702840;1401911131;mircea_popescu;"Seriously? You should have taken those bastards to court. They have no jurisdiction. All you have done is pave the way for them to blackmail others in the future. I hope you're proud of yourself." 702841;1401911141;mircea_popescu;apparently not even reddit takes kindly to erik these days. 702842;1401911187;Naphex;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ba-3-9.jpg holy mother! 702843;1401911246;fluffypony;I don't get it 702844;1401911264;mircea_popescu;ayup 702845;1401911267;Naphex;Romanian Christmas lights 702846;1401911272;Naphex;in Argentina 702847;1401911274;fluffypony;ah ok 702848;1401911291;Naphex;truly a wonder 702849;1401911292;mircea_popescu;Naphex, romania had major ties to argentina, going all the way back to peron's days. 702850;1401911304;asciilifeform;la casa del transformador! 702851;1401911310;mircea_popescu;to this day you can see logan on the streets here (tho the renault assholes are branding it aqs renault not dacia) 702852;1401911320;mircea_popescu;and most of their oil drilling eq is ro made. 702853;1401911331;*;asciilifeform moves to ar, opens an 'Umformerschwitz' 702854;1401911335;mircea_popescu;:D 702855;1401911347;mircea_popescu;many regulars got their little offering in that article. 702856;1401911434;pankkake;hm, penguirker is too dumb and speaks before it can 702857;1401911444;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2014/we-continue-our-foray-into-distant-lands/ 702858;1401911445;assbot;We continue our foray into distant lands pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 702859;1401911456;mircea_popescu;well he's yoiung 702860;1401911503;fluffypony;so mircea_popescu 702861;1401911508;fluffypony;"This is a steak, and I’m etting it." 702862;1401911515;fluffypony;is that like Instagramming it? 702863;1401911520;fluffypony;:-P 702864;1401911526;pankkake;why can't we send steaks over the internet yet? 702865;1401911539;mircea_popescu;too late, it's already etted. 702866;1401911544;fluffypony;pankkake: you can, you just need Proof of Steak 702867;1401911553;mircea_popescu;but you have nfi what steaks are. 702868;1401911557;mircea_popescu;until you argentina. 702869;1401911565;asciilifeform;tiny motorcycles. what's petrol cost over there ? 702870;1401911571;mircea_popescu;somehow people think pork is tender than beef. 702871;1401911581;mircea_popescu;THEY ARE WORNGK 702872;1401911596;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, exactly the same as in the us, remarkably. 702873;1401911633;asciilifeform;what about mains? kw/h 702874;1401911660;mircea_popescu;argentina is a country with twice the population and three times the gdp of romania. 702875;1401911694;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, that's quite complex because of the multi layered social support systems htey use 702876;1401911779;mircea_popescu;it also varies a lot by where in the country. 702877;1401911787;mircea_popescu;commercial power from what i understand is about 4cents/kwh or so 702878;1401911838;asciilifeform;about 10c here 702879;1401911902;asciilifeform;(in practice, more, after various 'fees') 702880;1401911955;mircea_popescu;jurov: let's skip to the part where bitcoiners have personal drivers << you're trying to go back in time to 1995 so that you can work hard for 20 years, save a nd buy many bitcoin pizzas in 2010 ? 702881;1401912112;mircea_popescu;atcbot: 702882;1401912112;mircea_popescu;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 768307.81 in 858 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 329.60 702883;1401912115;mircea_popescu;holky shit batman 702884;1401912131;mircea_popescu;didn't it just drop 60% ? what is this, stop and go miniung ? 702885;1401912150;asciilifeform;TaT blew a fuse? 702886;1401912163;mike_c;yup. pool hoppers pump up the diff, then leave, then come back when the diff drops again. 702887;1401912189;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/beta-testing-clinkles-new-app-sounds-like-a-nightmare-1583452909/+sarah-hedgecock 702888;1401912190;assbot;Beta-Testing Clinkle's New App Sounds Like a Nightmare 702889;1401912200;mircea_popescu;assbot: The First 'Bitcoin 2.0' Kickstarter-like Campaign Was A Wildly Successful $7 Million Disaster - Forbes << a good title for once. 702890;1401912207;BingoBoingo;%book 702891;1401912207;atcbot;3k@180 5k@175 2k@170 | 46k@141 25k@141 100k@140 702892;1401912260;mircea_popescu;mike_c, ah, this is actually +ev because it allows them to select when to mine huh 702893;1401912273;mircea_popescu;the max 400% increase rule suddenly is very smart. 702894;1401912310;mircea_popescu;this behaviour should actually make atc trading very productive 702895;1401912316;mircea_popescu;up until miners buckle down and submit. 702896;1401912380;BingoBoingo;OMG Mircea spilled the sekrits 702897;1401912392;mircea_popescu;ow sheit. 702898;1401912417;mircea_popescu;pls to not read loges everyone. 702899;1401912485;BingoBoingo;Now everyone is going to give shitcoins max increase rools and long adjustment times. 702900;1401912504;mircea_popescu;a woe is me. 702901;1401912553;Naphex;what is it with this youngin hackers. hacker got customer account, couldn't unlock it to send funds. decided to email support 702902;1401912556;Naphex;in russian 702903;1401912562;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: I still can't believe the SEC implicitly offered MPEx such a glowing endorsement today. << whay not. 702904;1401912564;Naphex;to manually approve it 702905;1401912564;BingoBoingo;PC1 will have to resort to selling Doge pelts to the chinese 702906;1401912581;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Because they didn't make it explicit 702907;1401912593;BingoBoingo;%ticker 702908;1401912594;mircea_popescu;i dont tihnk they're allowed to. 702909;1401912594;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 141 Ask: 170 Last Price: 141 24h-Vol: 203k High: 143 Low: 141 VWAP: 141 702910;1401912629;mircea_popescu;(this is arcana, but from what i understand no agency with enforcing capacity is allowed to mention specifically any company outside of the context of bringing charges) 702911;1401912652;mircea_popescu;can't go "do it like x" 702912;1401912668;mircea_popescu;can only go "don't do y like x did" 702913;1401912756;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: that is my new favourite quote << it's pretty acurate. the guy should be here, invite him. 702914;1401912830;fluffypony;;;later tell bitstein why isn't Daniel Krawisz on IRC? get him here! 702915;1401912830;gribble;The operation succeeded. 702916;1401912972;mircea_popescu;moiety: ok i'll try and work it in << lol don't let these goons talk you into absolutely anything. you're a nice girl, but they need their spanking 702917;1401913033;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/zrmHTMR,OzgNDNH#0 702918;1401913033;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 702919;1401913039;asciilifeform;^ 'sola' is here 702920;1401913045;asciilifeform;loud little bugger 702921;1401913092;asciilifeform;perhaps he'll be a little less obnoxious when he gets new fans. 702922;1401913116;mike_c;seems big for 8 amps 702923;1401913131;asciilifeform;about the size of a breadbox. 702924;1401913138;asciilifeform;fits on a book shelf. 702925;1401913150;mike_c;ah. need to put a quarter on it :) 702926;1401913158;mike_c;looked bigger to me. 702927;1401913163;asciilifeform;same 702928;1401913178;asciilifeform;i was expecting something more like a 2 drawer filing cabinet 702929;1401913207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53600 @ 0.0008587 = 46.0263 BTC [+] 702930;1401913777;mircea_popescu;assbot: 702931;1401913778;mircea_popescu;[ANN] [NAUT] Nautiluscoin - First Coin w/Stabilization Fund - Digishield << lawl. 702932;1401913802;mircea_popescu;i suppose P1 hasn't happened yet. 702933;1401913815;fluffypony;such stablefund 702934;1401913888;mircea_popescu;http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/vcjd/other/confirmed-case-in-texas.htm 702935;1401913889;assbot;CDC - Confirmed vCJD Case in Texas - Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) 702936;1401913894;Mats_cd03;14:26 <•pankkake> can you tell koreans apart? 702937;1401913946;Apocalyptic;mircea, interesting 702938;1401913957;mircea_popescu;jurov: tinkerers and people who know how to do things right are such incredibly disjoint groups << word. 702939;1401913970;mircea_popescu;!up alex_c 702940;1401913976;Apocalyptic;there was this "maladie de la vache folle" hype in french media a couple of years back 702941;1401913985;mircea_popescu;i reclal 702942;1401913994;mircea_popescu;is la vache qui rit still a brand btw ? 702943;1401914004;Apocalyptic;hehe, it is 702944;1401914045;mircea_popescu;was [pretty lulzy at the height of the mad cow scare 702945;1401914054;mircea_popescu;i'd give people triangles of french velveeta 702946;1401914059;mircea_popescu;with a laughing cow on it 702947;1401914112;Mats_cd03;yes. the men wear tight pants 702948;1401914161;mircea_popescu;mike_c: it is truly amazing how it keeps doubling << it is. 702949;1401914161;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 702950;1401914173;mircea_popescu;soon it will start controlloing the price of electricity. 702951;1401914243;chetty;Last of the original Navajo Code Talkers, Chester Nez, died today at 93 702952;1401914275;mircea_popescu;zee germanz never actually managed to figure out navajo did they 702953;1401914395;mircea_popescu;dub: similar(ly stupid) ideas about spending them after fiat collapses as metals probably, libertardation << seems credible. some sort of fetishism. 702954;1401914449;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/Vqj7yuX 702955;1401914449;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 702956;1401914483;mircea_popescu;http://mivoltma.444.hu/assets/sites/23/2014/05/kuczynskigif1-animated.gif << excellent rendition. ty jurov 702957;1401914502;asciilifeform;^ first saw that one on orlov's page. i think he's friends with the artist. 702958;1401914541;mircea_popescu;infinite hitpoints, as a property of the environment not of the idiots. 702959;1401914551;mircea_popescu;seems intuitively correct. 702960;1401914776;Naphex;omg, this scammer even contacted acount owner 702961;1401914786;Naphex;to try to get him to approve withdrawal 702962;1401914792;Naphex;telling him he works for Btcxchange 702963;1401914889;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/06/open-defecation-solves-the-child-mortality-puzzle-among-indian-muslims/ 702964;1401914890;assbot;Open defecation solves the child mortality puzzle among Indian Muslims | Ars Technica 702965;1401915060;princessnell;!up Daniel_Krawisz 702966;1401915067;Daniel_Krawisz;Hello. 702967;1401915076;Daniel_Krawisz;I heard someone was asking about me. 702968;1401915098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0716 = 0.358 BTC [-] 702969;1401915106;princessnell;fluffypony & mircea_popescu here's your man 702970;1401915195;Daniel_Krawisz;Do we do any role playing in here? 702971;1401915241;Naphex;lol russian hacker even subscribed customer youtube account to https://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyRussianHacker 702972;1401915242;assbot;CrazyRussianHacker - YouTube 702973;1401915244;Naphex;wtf :o 702974;1401915286;fluffypony;Daniel_Krawisz! 702975;1401915289;fluffypony;welcome 702976;1401915313;fluffypony;if your article on appcoins was an Instagram pic I would heart it or something 702977;1401915334;Daniel_Krawisz;Thanks! 702978;1401915357;Daniel_Krawisz;Are you a fan of My Little Pony? 702979;1401915403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02052 = 0.1642 BTC [-] 702980;1401915455;BingoBoingo;Daniel_Krawisz: He's the resident deviant 702981;1401915525;mircea_popescu;Daniel_Krawisz, o, you the guy with the quote ? 702982;1401915531;mircea_popescu;!up p10tr 702983;1401915587;Daniel_Krawisz;I was the person quoted in the Forbes.com article on MaidSafeCoin if that's the quote you meant. 702984;1401915642;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2014#700661 702985;1401915642;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 702986;1401915646;mircea_popescu;seems so yeah. welcome 702987;1401915669;mircea_popescu;;;google the psychology of the bagholder 702988;1401915670;gribble;The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Martie 2014 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Current Market Psychology... : BitcoinMarkets - Reddit: 702989;1401915674;mircea_popescu;pretty much the same concept. 702990;1401915703;Daniel_Krawisz;Thanks, I loved your thingy about the critical theory doctorates who had to clean the bus with their tits. It reminded me of Rabelais. 702991;1401915756;mircea_popescu;ha! well im flattered. 702992;1401915771;mircea_popescu;of all the people one can remind of... 702993;1401915788;fluffypony;Daniel_Krawisz: I'm not a MLP fan at all, I just got given this nick years and years ago and it stuck 702994;1401915829;Daniel_Krawisz;If I see text in red, does that mean only I can see it? 702995;1401915839;mircea_popescu;no it means you were named in it 702996;1401915852;Daniel_Krawisz;Oh ok. 702997;1401915884;mircea_popescu;most clients can be configured to also ding when that happens 702998;1401915891;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02052 = 0.1026 BTC [-] 702999;1401915906;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot Daniel_Krawisz 703000;1401915907;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Daniel_Krawisz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Daniel_Krawisz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Daniel_Krawisz | Rated since: never 703001;1401915926;mircea_popescu;;;rate Daniel_Krawisz 1 I remind him of Gargantua. 703002;1401915926;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 703003;1401915930;mircea_popescu;tsk. 703004;1401915937;mircea_popescu;gotta make one of those, then you can auto voice yourself. 703005;1401915973;Daniel_Krawisz;How do I get in the GPG database? 703006;1401916026;BingoBoingo;;;google bitcoin-otc wiki registration guide 703007;1401916026;gribble;Using bitcoin-otc - bitcoin-otc wiki: ; Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki: ; GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki: 703008;1401916081;Daniel_Krawisz;Ok, thanks. 703009;1401916309;mircea_popescu;Daniel_Krawisz, also, the entire length of endless discussion to date is to be found in 703010;1401916311;mircea_popescu;;;topic 703011;1401916311;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 703012;1401916315;mircea_popescu;the log one. 703013;1401916388;BingoBoingo;http://buyafarm.com/IL/Auction_Monroe14_1492A/Webpage_Auction_Monroe14_1492A.htm 703014;1401916388;assbot;                  Illinois Land For Sale Farmland Cropland Hunting 703015;1401916388;Daniel_Krawisz;Oh ok. 703016;1401916400;BingoBoingo;PUBLIC AUCTION - FORMER NIKE MISSILE LAUNCH SITE 703017;1401916413;fluffypony;nike missiles??? 703018;1401916457;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: It was a 1950's and 60's concept where incoming bombers would be brought down by short range nuclear missiles 703019;1401916485;fluffypony;ah, got excited about Nike's diversification program there for a moment 703020;1401916527;BingoBoingo;"The 14-acre site includes 3 underground concrete bunkers, each approximately 68 x 76 and 18 deep with 1010+- ceiling clearance. The 3 bunkers have 96 x 53'8 elevator pads which are operational." 703021;1401916580;BingoBoingo;Bunker: http://buyafarm.com/IL/Auction_Monroe14_1492A/DSC02476-w800-h600.jpg 703022;1401916624;BingoBoingo;Moar Bunker, with elevator loaded http://buyafarm.com/IL/Auction_Monroe14_1492A/IMG_3631-w800-h600.jpg 703023;1401916638;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, entirely worthless in the us tho. 703024;1401916648;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sadly so. 703025;1401916715;BingoBoingo;!up paxtoncamaro91 703026;1401916737;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Still, would be a nice "workshop" setup if the location was better 703027;1401916867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.19300043 BTC [-] 703028;1401916872;BingoBoingo;Large underground workspace with elevator apparatus capable of lifing vehicles, the industrial uses are endless 703029;1401916889;mircea_popescu;in an actual country. 703030;1401916901;mircea_popescu;in the us, the uses are inexistent. 703031;1401916961;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't that there is benefit derived from it. It is that when we can beat the Coindesks to the aggregators, it injures them in ways only they can rationalize. << wow that's an unexpected point. 703032;1401917017;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. << pretty much. a dangerous gambit, of course, as the world also goes about its business scarcely taking notice of their efforts. 703033;1401917020;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Also to the CoinDesks, it is the only one. 703034;1401917148;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: BingoBoingo: i actually had wondered why $15k plus damages -- didn't realize until you pointed out that they didn't touch s.dice << yeah, funny how that worked huh. 703035;1401917227;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: mp tells the sec to get stuffed, they shrug and then do exactly that << what did you expect'd happen ? a bureaucrat is perhaps the finest detector of who has the bigger stick in existence. 703036;1401917299;fluffypony;this made me cry with laughter - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27apui/why_i_will_store_on_coinbase/ 703037;1401917335;fluffypony;"I know most of you scoff at the idea of storing BTC on Coinbase, but I am not nearly as technologically inclined as most of you. Each storage suggestion I read looks to me like this: 703038;1401917335;fluffypony;1. Download armory and Electrum and run armory from an offline underground bunker. 703039;1401917336;fluffypony;2. double encrypt using Eorepadaeuium with 4 USB drives running Linux UEc.3f3.c2q1 703040;1401917336;fluffypony;3. backup with Efekjwsf and wefkjlfe + qt and create a public key, private key, and semi-private key. 703041;1401917336;fluffypony;4. print private key and public key, but not semi-private key. Laminate printed copies and store in a vault along with 3 of the 4 USB drives. But be sure not to run EFkjlwef foeropwerk. 703042;1401917337;fluffypony;5. Use a submarine to bury the vault in the ocean. 703043;1401917338;fluffypony;6. A hacker who is %1000 times smarter than you is watching your every move and will steal all your bitcoin if you slip up. 703044;1401917339;fluffypony;More near computer illiterate people like be are going to be buying BTC, and Coinbase seems like the safer and simpler option." 703045;1401917348;mircea_popescu;these argentines are a muy festive people. 703046;1401917384;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, i guess you just explained xapo's vp for asciilifeform too. 703047;1401917384;Naphex;probably needed 703048;1401917388;Naphex;to keep up morale 703049;1401917418;mircea_popescu;Naphex, either that or just incredibly lazy. 703050;1401917434;mircea_popescu;anyway, there's a mega band thing with drums and butt shakings marching down the street 703051;1401917438;mircea_popescu;as every other fucking day 703052;1401917445;mircea_popescu;you'd think you're in france with much better women. 703053;1401917531;Naphex;so what language are you speaking over there though? 703054;1401917562;Naphex;locals know english? 703055;1401917577;Naphex;https://i.imgur.com/BGN3YOD.gif 703056;1401917579;mircea_popescu;im fluent in spanish 703057;1401917648;mircea_popescu;lol great gif 703058;1401917712;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#701006 <<< ahahaha the great spammor. 703059;1401917713;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 703060;1401917717;mircea_popescu;o such lulz that wikipedia is. 703061;1401917721;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 109 @ 0.00208906 = 0.2277 BTC [+] 703062;1401917838;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You also have to understand. Of the relatively early Bitcoiners MP is practically a saint. << i thought i had a bad reputation. 703063;1401917884;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: We're going off of actual actions and not Jimmothy and CiuCiu retellings 703064;1401917904;mircea_popescu;whoa ciuciu 703065;1401917915;mircea_popescu;i wonder under what name he's back 703066;1401917957;BingoBoingo;That's the fifty cent question 703067;1401917964;mircea_popescu;i also wonder how long before i'll be the oldest guy in bitcoin, between people pulling the satoshi melt-in-mists trick on one hand and the 5years up to your room erik trick 703068;1401918013;mircea_popescu;Vexual: 703069;1401918013;mircea_popescu;usagi hotwallet method:to a hot array of failing hard disks is added a bitcoin wallet, and all backups. Hotter coffee is added splashwise until the hot wallet becomes cold. << ahahaha SPLASHWISE! 703070;1401918016;mircea_popescu;that's gotta be a word now. 703071;1401918041;Naphex;depends on bitcoins growth 703072;1401918045;Naphex;really 703073;1401918086;Naphex;the question is, how long before you stop recognizing everyone 703074;1401918090;Naphex;and its just a sea of scams 703075;1401918094;Naphex;and scammers 703076;1401918096;Naphex;going in and out 703077;1401918099;Naphex;daily 703078;1401918156;mircea_popescu;that can't happen, i have a whole department working on it. 703079;1401918183;mircea_popescu;nao if only the sec would be making more definite steps towards halping 703080;1401918221;Naphex;:)) 703081;1401918227;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Phinnaeus: I'm curious as to when Micrea had that pic taken where he's in front of the pyramid on a horse. << 2003 iirc. 703082;1401918228;gribble;The operation succeeded. 703083;1401918252;BingoBoingo;I thought settling with Erik over GLBSE shennanigans was helping, they have quite the backlog of stuff to catch up on... Gigavps, Thermos, et al.. 703084;1401918319;mircea_popescu;mike_c: asciilifeform: do you know if this is true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" << nobody fucking knpows if this is true, this is the mn dollar question in practical cryptography. 703085;1401918349;mike_c;c'mon, you know ascii knows and just won't tell 703086;1401918352;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, im not one to give last night's calves black eyes, but.... as you say, loing backlog. 703087;1401918420;BingoBoingo;I imagine a cycle stabilizing where MP shames securities scammer, SEC scoops them up months later. 703088;1401918442;BingoBoingo;Then in about 10 years the "community" notices this is a thing 703089;1401918456;Naphex;so why not turn that depratment and review into a service 703090;1401918459;Naphex;and do a bitsec 703091;1401918484;Naphex;after 1 year sell seals :)) 703092;1401918496;Apocalyptic;"nobody fucking knpows if this is true, this is the mn dollar question in practical cryptography." wait 703093;1401918496;Naphex;mpsec approved 703094;1401918530;Apocalyptic;is this the question "is the discrete logarithm problem as hard as the factorization problem" ? 703095;1401918594;Apocalyptic;cause if so it has been proved afaik 703096;1401918602;mircea_popescu;not exactly 703097;1401918632;mircea_popescu;Naphex, i don't really perceive the benefit. 703098;1401918648;Naphex;same thing only condensed 703099;1401918663;Naphex;maybe as an experiment, who knows the benefit 703100;1401918680;mircea_popescu;the problem with commodization is that it destroys quality. 703101;1401918685;Naphex;picking out the good from the bad should be a skill everyone has, but that ain't gonna happen 703102;1401918690;mike_c;Apocalyptic: there are also considerations around which curve you use. i believe certain curves are known to be weak. 703103;1401918691;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, how so ? 703104;1401918702;mircea_popescu;in general the fewer customers you have the better your product can be 703105;1401918703;Naphex;well you compress it, and let people act based on a rating 703106;1401918710;Naphex;they can optimize but have errors 703107;1401918718;Apocalyptic;mike_c, indeed, i'm talking in curves over GF(p), with p prime 703108;1401918727;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, Eric Bach wrote a paper about this 703109;1401918744;Apocalyptic;Bach proves: 1) If you can compute log. modulo $N$, you can factor $N$ 2) If you can factor $N$ and compute logs modulo each factor, then you can compute logs. modulo $N$ 703110;1401918749;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic, the question is more subtle than that. perhaps a better rendering would be "which of rsa, ec is more likely to have tiny pores we don't kjnow about" 703111;1401918755;mircea_popescu;such as a particularly easy to attack space etc. 703112;1401918765;Apocalyptic;but that's a different question 703113;1401918771;mircea_popescu;none of these considerations are wide berth issues such as bach's. 703114;1401918791;mircea_popescu;not that the result is unimportant, obv. 703115;1401919189;Naphex;mike_c: btcalpha is very good, great work. 703116;1401919193;Naphex;enjoying the read 703117;1401919196;mike_c;thanks! 703118;1401919225;mircea_popescu;yeah guy is making some serious inroads in post-btc journalism 703119;1401919232;mircea_popescu;!up decima` 703120;1401919402;BingoBoingo;http://www.vocativ.com/underworld/crime/theyre-trying-teen-adult-size-genitals/ 703121;1401919403;assbot;Boy Sentenced To Jail Because of Large Penis 703122;1401919436;mircea_popescu;yay 703123;1401919443;Apocalyptic; mike_c: btcalpha is very good, great work. // I concur 703124;1401919464;diametric;it boggles my mind xapo uses a 4 digit password. 703125;1401919483;diametric;it at least has 2FA for withdraw related activities 703126;1401919495;Apocalyptic;mircea, I see, my interpretation of "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" was different 703127;1401919520;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic, "in the general case" versus "in any practical case" 703128;1401919541;Apocalyptic;indeed 703129;1401919596;fluffypony;diametric: lolwut 703130;1401919609;fluffypony;"secure" 703131;1401919618;diametric;fluffypony: yeah. xapo authentication is your email + 4 digit "pin" 703132;1401919628;diametric;its 2014 ffs. 703133;1401919631;fluffypony;that seems needlessly retarded 703134;1401919692;mircea_popescu;2014 sounds like a great pin 703135;1401919716;diametric;the best of pins. 703136;1401919731;diametric;1234. 0000. 8008 is a classic as well. 703137;1401919740;mircea_popescu;;;google "you'll feel those needles and pins" 703138;1401919760;diametric;i wonder if they implement captcha or ip banning on multiple failed attempts 703139;1401919768;diametric;or can i bruteforce this with a python script. 703140;1401919771;mircea_popescu;easy enough to test 703141;1401919774;diametric;yep 703142;1401919900;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: pins & needles now << you are pushing your sacral vertebra into your pudendal nerve 703143;1401919906;Naphex;Apocalyptic: but isn't ECDH safe from shor's attack? 703144;1401919907;Naphex;from lets say quantum computers 703145;1401919907;Naphex;thats why you do ECDH to factorize instead of just EC 703146;1401919907;Apocalyptic;ECDH isn't of big interest for bitcoin 703147;1401919908;Naphex;must've missed th epoint 703148;1401919909;Apocalyptic;ECDH is just a protocol for key exchange 703149;1401919909;punkman;ECDSA is what btc uses, ECDH is another thing 703150;1401919909;Apocalyptic;ECDSA is what bitcoin relies on 703151;1401919909;punkman;oh there ;) 703152;1401919909;Naphex;yeah sorry vertical reading sometimes fails 703153;1401919910;gribble;CHER LYRICS - Needles And Pins - A-Z Lyrics: ; SMOKIE LYRICS - Needles And Pins - A-Z Lyrics: ; Cher - Needles & Pins Lyrics | MetroLyrics: 703154;1401919940;mircea_popescu;great way to become functionally identical to any woman. 703155;1401920086;Naphex;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6021/bitcoin-is-not-quantum-safe-and-how-we-can-fix/ <- 703156;1401920086;assbot;Bitcoin Is Not Quantum-Safe, And How We Can Fix It When Needed Bitcoin Magazine 703157;1401920092;Naphex;off to sleep gn o/ 703158;1401920109;mircea_popescu;moiety: this stupid slenderman crap is going to be made into some crap film at some point, wont it << if the us weren't out of money, it would habve been. 703159;1401920123;mircea_popescu;fortunately bollywood couldn't care less about western nonsense 703160;1401920125;mircea_popescu;they got their own 703161;1401920136;punkman;slenderman series: https://www.youtube.com/user/MarbleHornets 703162;1401920136;assbot;MarbleHornets - YouTube 703163;1401920166;mike_c;but how do we fix bitcoin when the aliens come? 703164;1401920203;mircea_popescu;bitcoin does not practice safe sex and how to fix this pressing problem 703165;1401920223;mircea_popescu;it's also racist, privilegionist and anti-environmentalist. 703166;1401920227;mircea_popescu;how to fix these too. 703167;1401920246;mike_c;i think there's a t-shirt with the answer 703168;1401920269;mircea_popescu;bitcoin is not pouring me another drink 703169;1401920273;mircea_popescu;how t ofix this problem. 703170;1401920276;mike_c;call moiety 703171;1401920293;punkman;bitcoin whiskey atm 703172;1401920299;mircea_popescu;how slender would she have to be to pour me drinks from under scotland's green pine tree 703173;1401920350;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27bha5/i_did_a_worlds_first_hopefully/ 703174;1401920350;assbot;I did a world's first! ...hopefully :) : Bitcoin 703175;1401920379;mircea_popescu;did he get laid ? 703176;1401920391;punkman;yeah for 0.2btc 703177;1401920402;mircea_popescu;jesus christ i nailed him. 703178;1401920406;mircea_popescu;how fucking hard was that. 703179;1401920408;punkman;that's a cheap hooker for amsterdam 703180;1401920412;mike_c;whoa, that could actually be a first 703181;1401920430;mike_c;including the part where he lost his virginity 703182;1401920436;mircea_popescu;"What took more time, the sex or the transaction?" 703183;1401920441;mircea_popescu;gotta love sa, they know their shit 703184;1401920466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1930326 = 0.7721 BTC [+] {2} 703185;1401920643;dub;'i don't know how I can prove I was a virgin' - posting on reddit, uh 703186;1401920648;fluffypony;lol 703187;1401920828;davout;paying for sex with bitcoin is ok as long as you're not done before the transaction has confirmed 703188;1401920865;punkman;;;tblb 3600 703189;1401920866;gribble;The expected time between blocks taking 1 hour and 0 seconds to generate is 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 13 minutes, and 54 seconds 703190;1401920881;dub;next, the first double spent virginity? 703191;1401920916;davout;the average human is the exact opposite of bitcoin 703192;1401920931;davout;has to wait at least 20 minutes before he can double spend 703193;1401920950;davout;i'll find my way to the door 703194;1401921015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.02513 = 0.1759 BTC [+] 703195;1401921040;dub;heh 703196;1401921198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0213799 = 0.1069 BTC [+] 703197;1401921200;dub;20 minutes is litecoin territory, theres at least 8 hours sleep between my blocks 703198;1401921442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.072 = 0.36 BTC [+] 703199;1401921626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32190 @ 0.00086016 = 27.6886 BTC [+] {3} 703200;1401921747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02513 = 0.2513 BTC [+] 703201;1401922418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0245 = 0.2695 BTC [-] {3} 703202;1401922723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 49 @ 0.0038 = 0.1862 BTC [-] 703203;1401922906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0213799 = 0.1069 BTC [+] 703204;1401924245;punkman;https://bitbook.ie/ is this new? 703205;1401924245;assbot;bitbook.ie | No-Fee Parimutuel Bitcoin Sports Betting 703206;1401924555;mike_c;css isn't as good as bitbet 703207;1401924568;punkman;https://bitbook.ie/make_bets/abf97e24-ded0-42bb-832d-669e275cfdc8#4498ba71-a61c-436b-be67-b3da4715069e this page is just awkward 703208;1401924572;assbot;bitbook.ie | No-Fee Parimutuel Bitcoin Sports Betting 703209;1401924607;davout;no fee = big red flag 703210;1401924626;punkman;davout, "It's too early to monetize, but when we do, it will probably be through ads or affiliate programs." 703211;1401924646;mike_c;uh 703212;1401924666;mike_c;oh, they mean they will be the affiliate for other people 703213;1401924672;davout;o so because affiliates 703214;1401924672;mike_c;in other words, ads. 703215;1401924689;davout;next 703216;1401924705;punkman;yeah because when you got a working gambling operation, you want to send people to other places 703217;1401924720;mike_c;maybe they would do well as a bitbet affiliate 703218;1401925163;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 119 @ 0.00189152 = 0.2251 BTC [+] {4} 703219;1401925392;punkman;why is it that bitbet only does binary propositions? 703220;1401925414;punkman;tried the logs for previous discussion but couldn't locate 703221;1401925612;mike_c;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-11-2013#396301 703222;1401925612;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 703223;1401925895;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00007202 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2} 703224;1401926024;punkman;so this bitbook guy is generating propositions automatically, and for some reason prefers to make N binary pools 703225;1401926033;punkman;seems retarded 703226;1401926054;mike_c;i wouldn't kill too many brain cells trying to figure it out. 703227;1401926121;punkman;how the fuck do you do parimutuel spread bets? 703228;1401926164;mike_c;same way.. just should be close to 50/50 703229;1401926217;mircea_popescu; https://bitbook.ie/ is this new? << prolly npot. 703230;1401926217;assbot;bitbook.ie | No-Fee Parimutuel Bitcoin Sports Betting 703231;1401926256;mircea_popescu; maybe they would do well as a bitbet affiliate << worth a shot. 703232;1401926376;punkman;mircea_popescu: so what's the mindfuck with multi bets? I feel more mindfucked by trying to find N related bets 703233;1401926638;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 703234;1401926645;mircea_popescu;you'll have to give me moar context. 703235;1401926652;punkman;see mike_c link above 703236;1401926688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20813118 = 0.8325 BTC [+] {2} 703237;1401926716;punkman;also a hypothetical, if you have a multibet and nobody bets on the winner, would the house take it? 703238;1401926744;mircea_popescu;seems you're illustrating it neh ? 703239;1401926768;mircea_popescu;calculating the odds becomes more complicated. also, "nobody" bets on a winner is impossible, bitbet seeds all bets. 703240;1401926786;mircea_popescu;but that aside, a parimutuel situatiuon where nobody bets on a possible outcome is not economically probable. 703241;1401926810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.072 = 0.36 BTC [+] 703242;1401926831;punkman;yeah I suppose it'd make sense to throw tiny amounts at all unlikely winners 703243;1401926861;mircea_popescu;n owinner is unlikely. i mean, is a bet that nets you 10kx your bet unlikely at 9900:1 odds ? 703244;1401926875;mircea_popescu;+ev is +ev. 703245;1401927002;mircea_popescu;but anyway : in principle multibets should be reducible to multiples of single pair bets. 703246;1401927481;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.02511 = 0.1507 BTC [-] 703247;1401927578;punkman;considering a 10-way or 30-way bet, that is sure more work for bitbet mods to seed correctly. So I guess we won't see multibets until there's just too many single bets covering the same events 703248;1401927603;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02540226 = 0.381 BTC [+] {3} 703249;1401927604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1914 @ 0.00006496 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {10} 703250;1401927688;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: for skeptics: usa is the country where they burned trainloads of grain during 'great depression' - to keep prices high << actiually the entire "steal thje gold" 1930 thing was specifically and declaredly destined to "increase grai nprices" 703251;1401927692;mircea_popescu;even if through inflation. 703252;1401927711;mircea_popescu;punkman, why do you think it's harder to seed "correctly" ? 703253;1401927728;mircea_popescu;there's no corectness involved, bitbet doesn't make any effort whatsoever to split the seed correctly. 703254;1401927768;punkman;what you just flip a coin? 703255;1401927969;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00086112 = 12.1418 BTC [+] {2} 703256;1401927978;punkman;but besides that, wouldn't it be more work to approve 30 single bets than 1 30-way bet? 703257;1401928100;mircea_popescu;how ? 703258;1401928140;mircea_popescu;i don't do it personally, and the mods just get to have fun. i hold no particular audit of their success. i guess some try to beat the game or w/e, i personally don't care, and that's where the incentive structure starts. 703259;1401928168;mircea_popescu;as long as management is concerned, seed bets just have to add up to .1 703260;1401928178;mircea_popescu;which is why they're seed bets. the idea is that the players will even it all out. 703261;1401928187;mircea_popescu;so far this idea has played out spectacularly well. 703262;1401928213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 66 @ 0.0254999 = 1.683 BTC [+] 703263;1401928274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20811233 = 0.8324 BTC [-] {2} 703264;1401928396;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02052032 = 0.1436 BTC [-] {7} 703265;1401928397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47242 @ 0.0008587 = 40.5667 BTC [-] {2} 703266;1401928410;mircea_popescu;dub: he's outside refueling the side curtain flamethrowers on his BMW << dub is such a bland kowtow character 703267;1401928426;mircea_popescu;i think when we finally enact the new world order we make him chairman of the fed. 703268;1401928884;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20823162 = 0.8329 BTC [+] {3} 703269;1401928945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.20919621 = 3.9747 BTC [+] {5} 703270;1401929006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.21315383 = 2.771 BTC [+] {3} 703271;1401929067;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.219 = 2.628 BTC [+] 703272;1401929068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0738483 = 0.8862 BTC [+] 703273;1401929128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.219 BTC [+] 703274;1401929257;punkman;http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/want_to_buy_a_jail_never_used.html 703275;1401929258;assbot;Want to buy a jail, never used? Submit your proposal for Portland’s Wapato by June 4 | OregonLive.com 703276;1401929366;mircea_popescu;http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/04/0059245/man-who-issued-securities-for-bitcoins-settles-with-sec << o look bingo made slashdot again 703277;1401929367;assbot;Man Who Issued Securities For Bitcoins Settles With SEC - Slashdot 703278;1401929831;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: This time though /. did that thing where they traded actual links for abc new 703279;1401929832;BingoBoingo;s 703280;1401929851;mircea_popescu;ya well. 703281;1401929860;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26844 @ 0.00086133 = 23.1215 BTC [+] {2} 703282;1401929863;mircea_popescu;(hanbot was "WTF WHERE DO THEY GET OFF") 703283;1401929871;mircea_popescu;so i guess htey made at least one friend with the process. 703284;1401930062;benkay;wait am i reading the logs correctly? voorhees is only in trouble over the off-mpex 'ipo'? 703285;1401930077;asciilifeform;two things about this story puzzle me (confession: i never gave enough of a damn to keep track in real time...) - why nothing about satoshidice? only sued for a small part of the spam op profit and: why vorhees ponied up 703286;1401930136;asciilifeform;third, why did vorhees, having profited handsomely from sd, have to take to spam? 703287;1401930137;benkay; in general the fewer customers you have the better your product can be // incidentally, this is why i love consulting. customers are typically n=1 where n trusts me and my boys to deliver - which we do. in spades. 703288;1401930138;BingoBoingo;benkay: That is correct 703289;1401930152;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That spam thing well preceeded S.DICE 703290;1401930167;mircea_popescu;benkay, yea 703291;1401930195;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, he had enough sense to listen to me when i told him how to do the buy back. 703292;1401930211;mircea_popescu;in general that ensures survival at a minimum. 703293;1401930240;benkay;huh well this makes me happy 703294;1401930247;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0QNFWDJ.txt ) 703295;1401930247;BingoBoingo;!b 3 703296;1401930254;benkay;perhaps the usg isn't as inimical to btc biz as i'd previously gathered 703297;1401930278;asciilifeform;afaik everybody expected gasenwagen for vorhees, at least 703298;1401930286;asciilifeform;for 'illegals casino' 703299;1401930288;mircea_popescu;and as to why he ponied up, probably bcause it's a laughably small sum, it gives the sec something it already had (i doubt any us citizen can sanely argue that th eauthority of the us govt and its agencies doesn't extend to him) 703300;1401930302;BingoBoingo;Well, he basically avoided the gasenwagen by buying them a BMW 703301;1401930315;asciilifeform;peculiarly cheap ransom 703302;1401930321;mircea_popescu;and closes his past (at the dubious cost of his next five years) 703303;1401930331;benkay;next five years how? 703304;1401930335;mircea_popescu;but i doubt he had much of a future as an issuer anyway, at least on the short term 703305;1401930354;mircea_popescu;benkay, well because if he does an ipo now he'd be roughly in the situaiton of karpeles 703306;1401930363;mircea_popescu;ie, "but you've signed here that you won't do this thing you're doing" 703307;1401930451;*;asciilifeform in the gasenwagen will offer to buy inquisitor a trabant 703308;1401930458;mircea_popescu;lol 703309;1401930482;mircea_popescu; perhaps the usg isn't as inimical to btc biz as i'd previously gathered << where'd you gather that ? reddit ? 703310;1401930495;mircea_popescu;the problem isn't the us being inimical to btc. the problem is btc being inimical to the us. 703311;1401930522;mircea_popescu;this is like that case of a three year old that';s so far smarter and better than you that your only hope as a father is to slave and serve it on your knees 703312;1401930543;mircea_popescu;my father didn't have the wisdom to see that, and it nearly cost him his life. the us isn;t in a much better position really. 703313;1401930562;mircea_popescu;it's just a hard thing to grasp this, that the thing can't even walk and yet it's a dragon, which you aren't, will never be etc. 703314;1401930756;benkay;there are worse dragons to slave for. 703315;1401930764;benkay; my father didn't have the wisdom to see that, and it nearly cost him his life. the us isn;t in a much better position really. // i'd love to hear this story sometime. 703316;1401930806;mircea_popescu;lol maybe the guy writes it sometime. 703317;1401930854;mircea_popescu;course these days people tend to make the converse mistake in their personal life 703318;1401930865;mircea_popescu;most kids aren't worth the hassle people put into them by a long shot. 703319;1401930880;benkay;"but if we just put the effort in, the kid will be!" 703320;1401930894;benkay;i'll be lucky if one of mine is qualified to and interested in taking on any position in my shop. 703321;1401930922;benkay;and i'll be not displeased with my work if they accept that they'll need to start at the bottom to boot. 703322;1401930958;mircea_popescu;right. 703323;1401930959;Mats_cd03;lol 703324;1401931028;mircea_popescu;curious if you'll manage to get that past the missus, at any rate. 703325;1401931090;benkay;lady v, re starting as js-sweepers: "i'm sure." 703326;1401931141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18692 @ 0.00085878 = 16.0523 BTC [-] {2} 703327;1401931507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00086166 = 24.3419 BTC [+] 703328;1401932361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7563 @ 0.0008587 = 6.4943 BTC [-] 703329;1401932730;mircea_popescu;not now. later. 703330;1401932764;mircea_popescu;Subject: Bitcoin Match Fixing and the NBA Playoffs 703331;1401932764;mircea_popescu;From: "Bitcoin Betting Guide" 703332;1401932785;mircea_popescu;such needed much helpful. 703333;1401932805;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 703334;1401932807;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 644.61, Best ask: 645.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 644.61, 24 hour volume: 13320.94152466, 24 hour low: 621.86, 24 hour high: 654.9, 24 hour vwap: 641.286188847 703335;1401933032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02791009 = 0.2791 BTC [-] {2} 703336;1401933093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0738482 = 0.2215 BTC [-] 703337;1401933398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00197 = 0.1793 BTC [+] 703338;1401933825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 97 @ 0.23595586 = 22.8877 BTC [+] {15} 703339;1401933886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.249 = 0.747 BTC [+] 703340;1401934679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0019989 = 0.1999 BTC [+] 703341;1401934862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2973 @ 0.00085847 = 2.5522 BTC [-] {2} 703342;1401934880;BingoBoingo;%book 703343;1401934881;atcbot;2k@219 100k@205 10k@200 | 24k@141 34k@140 250k@140 703344;1401935106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.0019989 = 0.1179 BTC [+] 703345;1401935228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02052032 = 0.1026 BTC [+] {5} 703346;1401935546;mike_c;%diff 703347;1401935547;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 715369.85 in 2016 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: 0.00 703348;1401935553;mike_c;party's over 703349;1401935716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0738483 = 0.2215 BTC [+] 703350;1401935777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.00200172 = 0.2702 BTC [+] {3} 703351;1401935838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0020669 = 0.1447 BTC [+] 703352;1401935899;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0020669 = 0.1467 BTC [+] 703353;1401936021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00208784 = 0.2088 BTC [+] {4} 703354;1401936082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0021 = 0.1071 BTC [+] 703355;1401936204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.0021 = 0.3129 BTC [+] 703356;1401936387;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11864 @ 0.00086178 = 10.2242 BTC [+] 703357;1401936814;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02999984 = 0.15 BTC [+] 703358;1401937942;TomServo;http://bitbet.us/bet/715/the-chicago-blackhawks-will-win-the-2014-stanley/ 703359;1401937943;assbot;BitBet - The Chicago Blackhawks will win the 2014 Stanley Cup :: 0.06 B (33%) on Yes, 0.12 B (67%) on No | closing in 2 days 20 hours | weight: 1`965 (100`000 to 1) 703360;1401937957;TomServo;That should probably be resolved. 703361;1401938727;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 703362;1401938791;BingoBoingo;;;later tell Vexual What were you wondering about it? 703363;1401938792;gribble;The operation succeeded. 703364;1401939010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.00086178 = 10.2086 BTC [+] 703365;1401939371;BingoBoingo;!up vex 703366;1401939376;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 703367;1401939594;BingoBoingo;http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-planning-to-rub-up-against-strangers-wondering,36182/ 703368;1401939594;assbot;Man Planning To Rub Up Against Strangers Wondering Where Train Is Already | The Onion - America's Finest News Source 703369;1401939682;BingoBoingo;%book 703370;1401939683;atcbot;100k@205 75k@202 10k@200 | 24k@141 34k@140 250k@140 703371;1401940253;BingoBoingo;;;google two chainz rap 703372;1401940254;gribble;2 Chainz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; 2 Chainz | Rap Genius: ; 2 Chainz – Birthday Song Lyrics | Rap Genius: 703373;1401940286;BingoBoingo;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2QKlmMT8II 703374;1401940287;assbot;2 Chainz - I'm Different (Explicit) - YouTube 703375;1401940352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0254999 = 0.204 BTC [+] 703376;1401940474;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00086178 = 8.1869 BTC [+] 703377;1401940528;Vexual;%diff 703378;1401940530;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 715369.85 in 2016 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: 0.00 703379;1401941228;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 703380;1401941389;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00085825 = 7.2951 BTC [-] 703381;1401941760;Vexual;hola dragon 703382;1401941815;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 703383;1401941825;BingoBoingo;%book 703384;1401941826;atcbot;75k@202 10k@200 2k@175 | 175k@142 24k@141 34k@140 703385;1401941965;mircea_popescu;Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? 703386;1401941970;mircea_popescu;that's a great fucking movie. 703387;1401941971;Vexual;;;rate mircea_popescu +d reasonable and intelligent 703388;1401941971;gribble;Error: '+d' is not a valid integer. 703389;1401941993;mircea_popescu;what's that, shorthand for +derp ? 703390;1401942001;Vexual;difficulty 703391;1401942009;Vexual;but its interchangable 703392;1401942070;Vexual;ill leave it to the gods 703393;1401942133;assbot;Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3T1R7YC.txt ) 703394;1401942133;BingoBoingo;!b 8 703395;1401942193;Vexual;might just mean desktop, i dunno 703396;1401942210;Vexual;what movie is it? 703397;1401942218;mircea_popescu;a man for all seasons. 703398;1401942244;mircea_popescu;not a very good take-down, in retrospect. scofield says "laid flat" and it serves. 703399;1401942533;Vexual;if you think you are a state you prolly are a state, skinner said that 703400;1401942569;Vexual;definately was the phrasing on inspection 703401;1401942625;mircea_popescu;Naphex: Posts about people paying 28,000$ for mining equipment and still not delivering weeks after deadline. is it just me or thats a hell of a lot money to be pissing people off for << not so lulzy. they're not even the first romanian bunch. 703402;1401942636;mircea_popescu;and do you remember the hungarian lolset back in 2012 ? 703403;1401942765;mircea_popescu;"...but there is also additional circumstantial evidence that GHash.IO have bad actors: 703404;1401942765;mircea_popescu;Not closing registration as their pool is approaching a (visible) 51% 703405;1401942765;mircea_popescu;Not charging fees to incentivize more pool diversity" 703406;1401942780;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: PrimeAsic? 703407;1401942791;mircea_popescu;yeah dude, they should break up their thing for your comfort. god forbid the fucktarded miners all gather on one pool shouls smarten up. 703408;1401942798;mircea_popescu;no, the pool must suicide for their sake 703409;1401942817;mircea_popescu;there should be a "beat internet people for bitcoin" service. 703410;1401942822;mircea_popescu;id prolly spend hundreds. 703411;1401942822;Vexual;why would a successful pol ever try to 51%? to get cheap ebay shit? 703412;1401942826;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, ya 703413;1401942845;mircea_popescu;Vexual, to become the butt of every nitwit's conspiracy theories. 703414;1401942858;mircea_popescu;and don't tell me anyone has higher goals in life, it's not true. 703415;1401942859;Vexual;really where would someone go to do a 51? 703416;1401942928;Vexual;it would take incmpetence to cop it 703417;1401942947;Vexual;theres a lot of it atround i guess 703418;1401943007;mircea_popescu;davout: is it proved? because it sounds like they'd have more to lose by passing on the block reward << as best as it could be discerned it was more probably a shitty excuse by the dice site in question. 703419;1401943026;BingoBoingo; Vexual, to become the butt of every nitwit's conspiracy theories. and don't tell me anyone has higher goals in life, it's not true. << This explains a lot, says all of Reddit 703420;1401943924;mircea_popescu;!up Vexual 703421;1401943932;Vexual;thankyou 703422;1401944212;BingoBoingo;%ticker 703423;1401944217;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 142 Ask: 175 Last Price: 141 24h-Vol: 220k High: 180 Low: 140 VWAP: 142 703424;1401944492;mircea_popescu;!up Poffertje 703425;1401945003;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 703426;1401945004;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 644.56, Best ask: 646.22, Bid-ask spread: 1.66000, Last trade: 646.22, 24 hour volume: 9040.85959965, 24 hour low: 627.5, 24 hour high: 654.9, 24 hour vwap: 642.035772399 703427;1401945681;Vexual;how many drachma to teh bitcoin? 703428;1401946025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0213697 = 0.4274 BTC [+] 703429;1401946217;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/rabite/status/474260974422478848 703430;1401946218;assbot;Classy /msftsecurity comic with sexual assault! RT /FivdaAurion: Did IE just make fun of Firefox....AND WATCH DOGS? http://t.co/d41h1rRWpC 703431;1401946277;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 703432;1401946280;gribble;Time since last block: 4 minutes and 33 seconds 703433;1401946285;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 703434;1401946287;gribble;Current Blocks: 304308 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 107 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 33 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11773061729.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.59924 703435;1401946490;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 703436;1401947137;BingoBoingo;xmj: I really dunno what the cloud fascination is when these are on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-Microsystems-SunFire-V440-Server-4x-1-60GHz-UltraSPARC-III-16gb-PC-2100/310962886850?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23309%26meid%3D7397420274572172178%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D9834%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D291131644728 703437;1401947138;assbot;Sun Microsystems Sunfire V440 Server 4X 1 60GHz UltraSPARC III 16GB PC 2100 | eBay 703438;1401947202;xmj;BingoBoingo: resilience against hardware failures 703439;1401947231;Vexual;buy two 703440;1401947237;xmj;Your SAN-stored VM fails on host one, being taken out due to faulty mem bank. it gets automatically migrated to host two, within minutes if not seconds. 703441;1401947242;BingoBoingo;Or put this on rails http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-Microsystems-Ultra-80-PGX32-Workstation-Server-/171344658162?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item27e4effef2 703442;1401947244;assbot;Sun Microsystems Ultra 80 PGX32 Workstation Server | eBay 703443;1401947259;xmj;if you achieve that with owning your hardware, you agin have a cloud. 703444;1401947266;xmj;(a small one.) 703445;1401947368;BingoBoingo;^ Redundancy built in 703446;1401947374;Vexual;yeah and you email yourself whenit fucks up 703447;1401947462;Vexual;rails 703448;1401947556;xmj;case in point: any combination of virtualization and redundancy can be dubbed 'cloud' 703449;1401947558;BingoBoingo;xmj: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUN-microsystems-Server-Ultra-Enterprise-6000/360208370775?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23309%26meid%3D7397461428183030825%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9834%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D171344658162&rt=nc 703450;1401947559;assbot;Sun Microsystems Server Ultra Enterprise 6000 | eBay 703451;1401947573;BingoBoingo;Ebay offers bigger solutions for own your own "cloud" as well 703452;1401947579;xmj;you can prefer owning hardware. i can prefer cheapskating. 703453;1401947595;xmj;chances are it's due to differences in initial wealth ;-) 703454;1401947611;BingoBoingo;(That particlular beast can hold up to 80 cores. 703455;1401947619;BingoBoingo;*30 cores 703456;1401947620;xmj;which, for startups in the conventional sense, is extremely likely. 703457;1401947652;BingoBoingo;Nothing about paying $500 a local pickup requires any measure of "wealth" 703458;1401947676;xmj;I understand that. 703459;1401947695;xmj;You'll have to agree that it's a bit harder if you do not actually know things have become this cheap. 703460;1401947708;xmj;things==medium-range enterprise grade used servers 703461;1401948099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0720003 = 0.144 BTC [-] 703462;1401948221;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0254999 = 0.153 BTC [+] 703463;1401948892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0720002 = 0.72 BTC [-] 703464;1401948953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0720001 = 0.36 BTC [-] 703465;1401949075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07200006 = 0.36 BTC [-] {2} 703466;1401949319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.072 = 0.216 BTC [-] 703467;1401949380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0718 = 0.359 BTC [-] 703468;1401949441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07160005 = 0.716 BTC [-] {2} 703469;1401949502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07150714 = 0.5005 BTC [-] {2} 703470;1401949929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.0279002 = 0.2511 BTC [-] 703471;1401950051;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0724 = 0.2172 BTC [-] 703472;1401950113;decimation;mircea_popescu: I'm glad you enjoyed the movie (a man for all seasons). I think I was the one that last reminded you about it - it's one of my favorites too. 703473;1401950123;decimation;It speaks to the rampant antinomianism of this age 703474;1401951027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07004 = 0.3502 BTC [-] 703475;1401951088;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00085981 = 21.3233 BTC [+] {2} 703476;1401951271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.02136999 = 0.8548 BTC [+] 703477;1401951393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07003 = 0.4902 BTC [-] 703478;1401953467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23899957 BTC [-] 703479;1401953589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00085856 = 21.0776 BTC [-] {2} 703480;1401954199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.00482068 = 0.1205 BTC [-] 703481;1401954321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [7C] 34 @ 0.00482069 = 0.1639 BTC [+] {7} 703482;1401954444;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00085814 = 17.4202 BTC [-] {2} 703483;1401955074;davout;morneng 703484;1401955506;davout;today is hipster day 703485;1401955521;davout;drinking aero-pressed espresso in a mongodb mug 703486;1401955541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.000858 = 7.0785 BTC [-] {2} 703487;1401955556;davout;well, technically not drinking it yet, since the recommended 98°C for perfect coffee brewing is too hot for me 703488;1401955695;fluffypony;lol 703489;1401955702;fluffypony;such hipster 703490;1401955724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02136999 = 0.1068 BTC [+] 703491;1401956700;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00086121 = 4.6505 BTC [+] 703492;1401958033;punkman;hello 703493;1401958080;fluffypony;quote from an actual SMS from my wife: " the Germans replied with a list of what we need for our ehefaehigkeitszeugnis" 703494;1401958098;punkman;that can't be a word 703495;1401958101;fluffypony;that is a word and not her mashing the keyboard 703496;1401958136;fluffypony;http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehefähigkeitszeugnis_(Deutschland) 703497;1401958137;assbot;Ehefhigkeitszeugnis (Deutschland) Wikipedia 703498;1401958147;fluffypony;it's some documentation we need to register our marriage in Germany 703499;1401958175;punkman;do you get germanycoins if you do? 703500;1401958220;fluffypony;hah hah 703501;1401958225;fluffypony;only when the airdrop happens 703502;1401958249;punkman;http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/obesity-research-confirms-long-term-weight-loss-almost-impossible-1.2663585 703503;1401958249;assbot;Obesity research confirms long-term weight loss almost impossible - Health - CBC News 703504;1401958591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02109514 = 0.1055 BTC [-] {2} 703505;1401958610;BingoBoingo;xmj: You see, the difference between people who barrel of the cliff and people who actually think infrastructure is the later knows to investigate how cheap the good stuff has become. 703506;1401958643;xmj;BingoBoingo: I know 703507;1401958644;xmj;:) 703508;1401958652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.02100009 = 0.231 BTC [-] {2} 703509;1401958666;xmj;BingoBoingo: assume you spend two days obtaining the hardware, and another few days until it's all set up 703510;1401958672;BingoBoingo;I mean suppose the rare actually valuable idea in itself that could launch a tremendous venture... Do you really want to test the alpha on someone else's iron and risk them poaching it. 703511;1401958679;xmj;that's a manweek you do not spend on developing your product!!!!! 703512;1401958696;punkman;oh noes 703513;1401958699;BingoBoingo;xmj: One can think while driving a truck 703514;1401958717;xmj;BingoBoingo: I had hoped the amount of !! would tip you off on that not being serious. 703515;1401958785;BingoBoingo;Well, sometimes a person needs to wonder. I mean who doesn't check the prices on the not so old 30 processor capable machines 703516;1401958835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00086121 = 3.2726 BTC [+] 703517;1401958908;BingoBoingo;I mean, tech has advanced enough that the financial cost of doing "Big Iron" as a hobbyist is less than doing HF amateur radio 703518;1401959018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.02035041 = 0.4884 BTC [-] {2} 703519;1401959079;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 45 @ 0.02035 = 0.9158 BTC [-] 703520;1401959201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.02035005 = 0.407 BTC [+] {2} 703521;1401959573;jurov;actually, despite being a sysadmin with 8 or so year practice and i avoid messing with physical hw whenever i can. so what, kill me. 703522;1401959610;jurov;such as, i was never able to come up with complete setup for the first or second time 703523;1401959629;jurov;just give me trusted monkey for this 703524;1401959772;jurov;Geschwindigkeitsüberschreitung is a word, too :) 703525;1401960299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.02063024 = 0.5364 BTC [+] {3} 703526;1401960487;jurov;and .vermögensberatung is a TLD :D 703527;1401960595;punkman;more like the best TLD 703528;1401960607;punkman;alas, not approved yet 703529;1401960934;punkman;"The network solved only 1079 blocks this week, the lowest since January 27th 2013" 703530;1401961275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00086121 = 10.9804 BTC [+] 703531;1401961404;xmj;jurov: exactly my point 703532;1401961409;xmj;hardware isn't my strong point 703533;1401961437;xmj;just get me something that's compatible with FreeBSD and i'll build you a nice production environment. 703534;1401961727;pankkake;oh that's why you like vms, nothing works with freebsd unless it's ten years old 703535;1401962125;dub;hardware isthe domain of dirty system monkeys 703536;1401962451;dub;wtf does a 'startup' want with physical plant? owning inrastructure is for corporate behemoth, makes no sense in anything smaller than a 1000 staff 703537;1401962800;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.02040463 = 0.2245 BTC [-] {2} 703538;1401962922;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00086326 = 32.7176 BTC [+] {4} 703539;1401963209;xmj;dub: a similar statement got me ignored by mirceau.. 703540;1401963352;jurov;xmj i remember something like you called him names 703541;1401963445;xmj;after he did. 703542;1401963452;jurov;or at least failed to qualify your statements properly 703543;1401963457;xmj;"He started it! He started it!" 703544;1401963862;dub;you learn to let a lot of the expertise offered in here go but startups buying sun shit on ebay is getting pretty retarded 703545;1401964200;jurov;in short, garden variety startups need not apply to #b-a 703546;1401964260;jurov;when i tried coworking with fellow startups i sticked out there like a sore thumb 703547;1401964262;davout;so apparently, and as predicted, mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself 703548;1401964290;pankkake;well buying sun servers is the parangon of hipsterism 703549;1401964299;pankkake;and would probably require infinite electricity 703550;1401964321;pankkake;but they still launched before actually knowing? now that's a real startup 703551;1401964322;davout;how does one burn freebsd on a bootable vinyl, that is the question 703552;1401964330;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2WD31HF.txt ) 703553;1401964330;pankkake;!b 1 703554;1401964392;jurov;if freebsd works on any machine with magnetophone tape loader, no problem 703555;1401964478;davout;"but they still launched before actually knowing? now that's a real startup" << no, pre-orders ftw 703556;1401964481;*;jurov imagines arriving into DC with a gramophone to load the OS after power outage 703557;1401964508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02400081 = 0.24 BTC [-] 703558;1401964511;dub;hopefully there is a distinction between #bitcoin-assets startups and moms #basement-attick startups 703559;1401964552;xmj;LOL 703560;1401964554;xmj;startups. 703561;1401964586;xmj;two i'm in the office with renewed server software / switched environment. tonight. both had demos / trade exhibitions scheduled in the morning when they needed stuff to work... 703562;1401964594;xmj;of course it didn't work come morning. 703563;1401964615;xmj;Naphex: I'm starting to embrace your point of view :p 703564;1401964646;pankkake;renewed server software? 703565;1401964708;xmj;pankkake: watercooler talk. not quite as rich on the details as you'd expect. 703566;1401964726;pankkake;I don't understand what that means at all 703567;1401964773;xmj;pankkake: OS, web application, bla, something new. 703568;1401964797;pankkake;so they updated the software before the demo, when the old version was working? 703569;1401964814;xmj;bingo. 703570;1401964825;pankkake;lol, no wonder I didn't get it, it was too absurd :) 703571;1401964838;xmj;^5 703572;1401964860;jurov;yo, updates are addictive 703573;1401964886;jurov;with nasty widthdrawal syndromes 703574;1401964910;xmj;case in point, you just do not update things _the night before_ a demo. 703575;1401964918;pankkake;emerge -uDvN world ghnnnhr 703576;1401964970;xmj;"unsupported" 703577;1401965122;Naphex;xmj: not a point of view, reality :P 703578;1401965127;Naphex;you're starting to embrace reality 703579;1401965133;xmj;Naphex: there's not just one 703580;1401965134;Naphex;and maybe removing some brainwash 703581;1401965135;Naphex;:)) 703582;1401965157;xmj;Naphex: please do understand that i have my own issues with venture-capitalist fundings. 703583;1401965181;xmj;i'll subtly neg them by asking about their company's economics. "so... are you cashflow positive?" is king. 703584;1401965190;davout;Naphex: philosoraptor would wonder how brainwash could wash away 703585;1401965381;fluffypony;davout: got a sauce on the Xapo thing? 703586;1401965846;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/8uxiRNV.jpg 703587;1401965868;davout;fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/xapo-bitcoin-debit-card-launch-month/ 703588;1401965868;assbot;Xapo Bitcoin Debit Card to Launch This Month 703589;1401965887;davout;funnily enough, their mockup still has the mastercard logo on it 703590;1401965967;fluffypony;ja I meant sauce on MasterCard saying no (besides MasterCard putting Bitcoin on their lobbying form) 703591;1401966001;fluffypony;oh it says there 703592;1401966005;fluffypony;"this turned out not to be the case" 703593;1401966006;davout;"The possibility had been raised that the Xapo card would launch on the MasterCard network, but this turned out not to be the case." 703594;1401966007;fluffypony;sorry can't read 703595;1401966018;fluffypony;I was hoping for juicy details 703596;1401966175;davout;you were there when it was predicted, nothing to be too suprised about :-) 703597;1401966210;fluffypony;heh heh 703598;1401966236;Naphex;davout: well you can def do the mastercard/visa thing 703599;1401966240;Naphex;if you wanna credit the customers 703600;1401966243;Naphex;even if its bitcoin 703601;1401966272;Naphex;in basics you just keep bitcoin as a guarantee and set a max limit for a month on a customer visa/master 703602;1401966286;Naphex;and then enjoy the risks 703603;1401966286;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639056.msg7144554#msg7144554 he even bought mpex stuff! 703604;1401966286;assbot;HEDGE FUND BTC 703605;1401966303;davout;no, the correct way is to use 3d secure and reject cards that don't get you a proper liability shift even with 3ds 703606;1401966313;davout;either way that's not what the convo was about :-) 703607;1401966326;Naphex;i wouldn't count 3dsecuire as ireversible 703608;1401966337;davout;it is, if you know what you're doing 703609;1401966352;Naphex;probably but in the end your only guns will be laywers&politics 703610;1401966437;davout;that's true for a lot of things 703611;1401966452;Naphex;yeah but it doesn't have to be with btc 703612;1401966465;davout;what are you talking about 703613;1401966481;davout;also the exact facts about 3ds and liability shift -> http://i.imgur.com/3MkZZ2E.png 703614;1401966487;davout;you'll thank me later :-) 703615;1401966582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.02039527 = 1.0809 BTC [-] {3} 703616;1401966704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0204125 = 0.1837 BTC [+] 703617;1401967131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00086409 = 13.4798 BTC [+] {2} 703618;1401967457;Naphex;so whats going on 703619;1401967591;fluffypony;pankkake: that's a surprising amount of MPEX assets 703620;1401967618;pankkake;well he just buys everything 703621;1401967642;fluffypony;yeah 703622;1401967644;fluffypony;and hopes for a return 703623;1401967645;fluffypony;lol 703624;1401967728;pankkake;https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/1629355dd29c480be17f86fbe349f903173ef855/gottabuythemall.txt?at=master 703625;1401967729;assbot;pankkake / asslyrics / source / gottabuythemall.txt — Bitbucket 703626;1401967741;mircea_popescu;ahh, nanotube did i eve say just how much i love the gribble log-in scheme ? 703627;1401967747;mircea_popescu;it's the best thing that can ever be! 703628;1401967762;mircea_popescu;o, what did i miss ? 703629;1401967788;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: we came up with a plan for world domination but then promptly forgot it 703630;1401967820;mircea_popescu;dun worry, usagi can halp 703631;1401967847;fluffypony;hah hah 703632;1401967900;pankkake;and now I have pinky and the brain in my head 703633;1401967923;mircea_popescu;pankkake, lol. mind dumping that fund's google braindamage on a text dump ? 703634;1401967935;davout;C'EST MINUS, C'EST MINUS ET CORTEX, CORTEX, CORTEX, CORTEX, CORTEX 703635;1401967977;mircea_popescu;"Buy the lite, buy the pee pee Soon the girls will be on their knees Buy the Quark, or maybe don't! Every day for you they will moan" 703636;1401967985;mircea_popescu;these are the most fucktarded lyrics i saw this week. 703637;1401967988;pankkake;I'm not sure it all rhymes 703638;1401967990;mircea_popescu;translated from french ? 703639;1401967992;pankkake;no 703640;1401968001;mircea_popescu;o, they ARE in french ? 703641;1401968005;pankkake;lol 703642;1401968025;davout;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdk8vfKhoug 703643;1401968025;assbot;Gnrique Minus et Cortex - YouTube 703644;1401968031;pankkake;but I never write then translate, at least 703645;1401968043;mircea_popescu;davout, i give up. 703646;1401968108;mircea_popescu;what the fuck 703647;1401968114;mircea_popescu;"If you don't admit MP is your God, the story of your loss will be told" 703648;1401968137;mircea_popescu;i vaguely remember tat doing this a while back. does ba nao have a collaborative lyrics page ? 703649;1401968156;pankkake;I tried to write those at the same time 703650;1401968160;mircea_popescu;ah 703651;1401968226;davout;Naphex: save the 3ds liability shift chart, it's going away in two minutes 703652;1401968244;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c yesterday I checked your page http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ and I saw that mpif was 15 satoshi ahead, and slowly gaining. so i went to sleep AND GAVE IT ALMOST TEN HOURS only to wake up and find that it is now ONLY !$ ahead. I was never told this can go backwards, I was led to expect this goes up WHAT SORT OF A SCAM ARE YOU RUNNNING! 703653;1401968245;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 703654;1401968245;gribble;The operation succeeded. 703655;1401968296;mircea_popescu;i don't think mike gets nearly enough customer support queries. 703656;1401968556;pankkake;I already annoyed him with the bitbet ads 703657;1401968561;mircea_popescu;a ok then 703658;1401968564;pankkake;in the end I got 0 BTC 703659;1401968575;pankkake;it still felt good 703660;1401968586;mircea_popescu;werll that's prolly cause your blog sucks :D 703661;1401968592;mircea_popescu;where did you put them btw ? 703662;1401968617;mircea_popescu;;;later tell decimation: mircea_popescu: I'm glad you enjoyed the movie (a man for all seasons). I think I was the one that last reminded you about it - it's one of my favorites too. << yeah i think so. and what "of this age", it's all ages. that's the beauty of it, the zero delta since forever. 703663;1401968618;gribble;The operation succeeded. 703664;1401968675;mircea_popescu;davout: drinking aero-pressed espresso in a mongodb mug << let me ruin your day for you. coffee in argentina ? comes PRE SWEET$ENED. and i don't even mean the bags. i mean the MOTHERFUCKING BEANS;. they sugar-cook them. 703665;1401968794;mircea_popescu;punkman: that can't be a word << i got bad news for you punky. ein ehefhigkeitszeugnis ist eine bescheinigung des deutschen standesamts zur eheschliessung im ausland. 703666;1401968809;pankkake;no I posted the asciminer bet on the forum, saying #bitcoin-assets preticted the crash days ago 703667;1401968839;mircea_popescu;what days lol, it was on trilema at the onset. for that matter, mpoe-pr did it on the forum 703668;1401968842;mircea_popescu;in september or w/e. 703669;1401968851;pankkake;yes, posted that one after too 703670;1401968872;mircea_popescu;did they froth ? 703671;1401968913;pankkake;I think so 703672;1401968928;mircea_popescu;life is good. 703673;1401968972;mircea_popescu;assbot: Obesity research confirms long-term weight loss almost impossible - Health - CBC News << what sort of bullcrap research is htis ? holocaust deniers ? 703674;1401969006;mircea_popescu;xmj: that's a manweek you do not spend on developing your product!!!!! << moar like a boyweek. there IS a difference. 703675;1401969009;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1MTN78E.txt ) 703676;1401969009;mircea_popescu;!b 1 703677;1401969013;pankkake;link? 703678;1401969035;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2014#703511 703679;1401969035;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 703680;1401969037;pankkake;if you lose weigth through shitty temporary diets that make you hungry all day, sure 703681;1401969044;mircea_popescu;o you meant the earlier ? 703682;1401969050;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2014#703502 703683;1401969051;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 703684;1401969115;pankkake;"Our biology taunts us, by making short-term weight loss fairly easy" well duh. it's the stupid way of losing weight 703685;1401969131;mircea_popescu;i dunno about it being stupid. 703686;1401969141;mircea_popescu;so you get hungry. who asked you ? shut up and fuck you. be hungry, and suffer. 703687;1401969156;pankkake;yes, but after that, you're going to resume your bad habits, and gain again 703688;1401969159;mircea_popescu;whoever told the current crop of imbeciles that pain avoidance is a legitimate goal of the thinking mind really did a number of them 703689;1401969173;mircea_popescu;no wonder they'll swallow any con. after that one, what else is there to really con them about ? 703690;1401969178;mircea_popescu;no you are not. 703691;1401969187;mircea_popescu;this is why yo usuffer : so it hurts you so badly yuou become a different person. 703692;1401969212;mircea_popescu;this is the importance of pain in human life. it changes who you are. substantially, definitively. 703693;1401969236;mircea_popescu;!up B51Num1 703694;1401969241;pankkake;it does, but I doubt it works for losing weight 703695;1401969245;mircea_popescu;why is that ? 703696;1401969263;pankkake;just empirical evidence 703697;1401969264;mircea_popescu;obviously you doubt. everyone all the time doubts, cause their interest is alligned that way. pain fucking hurts. 703698;1401969278;mircea_popescu;put the fatty in a cage, keep her there until she's acceptable weight, 703699;1401969293;mircea_popescu;put her back in there if she tips the scale again. 703700;1401969294;pankkake;I don't even try to argue about diets with girls anymore. I figure they just like to be hungry for a few weeks and then eat shit again 703701;1401969302;mircea_popescu;heh. 703702;1401969363;mircea_popescu;jurov: actually, despite being a sysadmin with 8 or so year practice and i avoid messing with physical hw whenever i can. so what, kill me. << i don't think we kill people for their preferences here. 703703;1401969377;mircea_popescu;or else a lot of things are quite unexplainable. 703704;1401969503;mircea_popescu;pankkake: oh that's why you like vms, nothing works with freebsd unless it's ten years old << lmao zing 703705;1401969556;mircea_popescu;dub: you learn to let a lot of the expertise offered in here go but startups buying sun shit on ebay is getting pretty retarded << shut up and oracle! 703706;1401969576;xmj;mircea_popescu: what is it with you people not getting jokes. 703707;1401969592;xmj;I added five(!) exclamation marks. 703708;1401969649;mircea_popescu;davout: so apparently, and as predicted, mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself << the lulzy part is that it hasn't, and i bet you won't, close down for this. 703709;1401969728;pankkake;xmj: arguing with mp requires a degree in popescuism, and I'm not sure anyone managed to finish it 703710;1401969797;mircea_popescu;da fuck you on about, people argue with me all the time. 703711;1401969813;pankkake;try to 703712;1401969858;mircea_popescu;a well. yes. all it requires is a degree in not saying really stupid shit. which, granted, is a rara avis these days, kids being pushed so hard to explore the space of possibilities they never learn to hedge their bets. 703713;1401969910;dub;a degree of popsecuity 703714;1401969931;mircea_popescu;you should see the screaming matches that errupt in my board meetings every while or so. 703715;1401969943;mircea_popescu;last time i broke a zaraza bottle. 703716;1401969959;fluffypony;dub: popescuity? 703717;1401969974;mircea_popescu;tis an old obscure private joek. 703718;1401969997;fluffypony;not to be confused with porpoisecuity? 703719;1401970017;mircea_popescu;the latter i never heard of , and to be quite frank with you it sounds liek a scam 703720;1401970043;dub;fuck is zaraza 703721;1401970071;mircea_popescu;dub, romanian cognac. quite good. the bottle is 1 inch thick glass. 703722;1401970072;pankkake;a doom metal band 703723;1401970089;xmj;pankkake: I did not estimate him being *that* literal. 703724;1401970093;fluffypony;http://awsassets.panda.org/img/original/finless2gaobaoyan.jpg <- porpoisecuity 703725;1401970096;fluffypony;scammers, the lot of them 703726;1401970113;dub;oh, I drank half a bottle of Louis XIII with some friends on the weekend 703727;1401970117;xmj;obviously after previous discussions I should have known better. 703728;1401970163;mircea_popescu;http://e-murfatlar.ro/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/IMG_0658_0.jpg that's the bottle 703729;1401970165;dub;predictably towards the end of an epic whisky binge 703730;1401970167;fluffypony;dub: oh I love that, haven't had a good cognac in ages 703731;1401970178;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, and you want me to come to SA ?! 703732;1401970183;chetty;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ecb-cuts-interest-rates-2014-06-05?siteid=bnbh 703733;1401970184;assbot;ECB cuts interest rates - MarketWatch 703734;1401970196;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I mean I haven't opened my bottle and poured some 703735;1401970202;mircea_popescu;aok 703736;1401970209;fluffypony;been doing the craft beer thing for a while 703737;1401970210;mircea_popescu;hahaha chetty what are they now, 1 satoshi percent ? 703738;1401970224;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, o speaking of beer, these people have a faux guiness 703739;1401970233;chetty;interest rate on its deposit facility to -0.1% from 0% 703740;1401970234;mircea_popescu;i mean it's a local brand, and they clearly make it by their own recipe 703741;1401970240;mircea_popescu;but it's shockingly close. 703742;1401970243;mircea_popescu;chetty, you're kidding me ?! 703743;1401970248;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: cheaper too, I gather? 703744;1401970256;chetty;nope negative interest is here 703745;1401970261;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, i don't recall what it costs, but five bux a liter or somesuch 703746;1401970261;dub;check out the louis tres bottle 703747;1401970269;mircea_popescu;holy shit this is the end of europe. 703748;1401970283;Apocalyptic;oh yeah the BCE summit 703749;1401970288;mircea_popescu;no regime in history survived negative real interest. 703750;1401970289;dub;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XIII_de_R%C3%A9my_Martin 703751;1401970289;assbot;Louis XIII de Rmy Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 703752;1401970289;Apocalyptic;I almost forgot it's today 703753;1401970313;mircea_popescu;dub, no i know, that thing could kill someone 703754;1401970320;mircea_popescu;blown glass blowfish 703755;1401970364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 725 @ 0.00039792 = 0.2885 BTC [-] {4} 703756;1401970403;mircea_popescu;so i guess ukip is going to form the government. by itself. 703757;1401970405;mircea_popescu;make your peace. 703758;1401970534;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur 703759;1401970536;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 472.50000001, Best ask: 480.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.50000, Last trade: 480.0, 24 hour volume: 48.5678075, 24 hour low: 472.0, 24 hour high: 480.0, 24 hour vwap: 477.98122721 703760;1401970629;mircea_popescu;so i have this first mystery on my hands. on one haqnd, the english language propaganda is screaming about how argentina is a week away from default. 703761;1401970637;mircea_popescu;on the other hand, the black market in dollars is stable. 703762;1401970641;mircea_popescu;now how the fuck does this work ? 703763;1401970713;pankkake;because the us is also a week away from default 703764;1401970717;Apocalyptic;for those interested, Mario lulzotron starting in 15 min at http://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/webcast/html/webcast_140605.en.html 703765;1401970717;assbot;ECB: Webcasts: ECB monetary policy decisions 703766;1401970729;mircea_popescu;pankkake, so what should i look at ? euro is similar, and not nearly as traded. 703767;1401970745;mircea_popescu;fucking shockingly beyond belief, they don't trade chinese anything either. 703768;1401970779;mircea_popescu;the icbc is quite present here, to the point they do consumer advertising either. yet the argentines don't seem to have created any sort of synthetic debenture based proxy for the chinese currency 703769;1401970866;chetty;argentines are really stuck on dollars, with maybe btc second. 703770;1401970941;kakobrekla;usd was there first 703771;1401970954;mircea_popescu;pretty much yeah 703772;1401970969;xmj;Apocalyptic: good catch 703773;1401970988;mircea_popescu;at any rate, im actually considering taking short dollar positions here. 703774;1401970992;*;xmj fires up stream 703775;1401971000;chetty;but a lot of the trade in argentina is actually with china, they sell lots of soy to china 703776;1401971007;xmj;Apocalyptic: they did publish the decision already didn't they? 703777;1401971011;Apocalyptic;xmj, don't forget your stock of popcorns 703778;1401971024;Apocalyptic;yeah, it's mainly a Q/A session from what I got 703779;1401971025;xmj;ECB cuts base interest rate from 0.25pc to 0.15pc and the deposit facility to -0.1pc to spur eurozone recovery and head off deflation 703780;1401971029;xmj;they did. 703781;1401971030;mircea_popescu;chetty, everyhing, really. 703782;1401971058;xmj;hmmm 703783;1401971078;xmj;Apocalyptic: I've given up my German residency earlier today 703784;1401971127;kakobrekla;this is euro for you today https://charts.mql5.com/4/896/eurusd-m1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png 703785;1401971136;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, how is panacea positioned btw ? 703786;1401971142;kakobrekla;nothing 703787;1401971151;kakobrekla;flat 703788;1401971166;mircea_popescu;that can't hurt. 703789;1401971166;Apocalyptic;sound call imo 703790;1401971195;Apocalyptic;during these annoucements you have to expect liquidity drops 703791;1401971212;mircea_popescu;aahaha that whiplash. a full fucking cent. 703792;1401971218;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17564 @ 0.00086414 = 15.1778 BTC [+] 703793;1401971225;kakobrekla;yes, you cant play that. 703794;1401971233;xmj;i'll have to plunder my EUR bank account soon anyway. 703795;1401971233;mircea_popescu;how many billion pips is that again ? 703796;1401971235;kakobrekla;well or at least i cant. 703797;1401971262;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, i think you might need your own server to play that :D 703798;1401971278;xmj;nice chart kakobrekla 703799;1401971302;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/05/does-time-back-bitcoin-or-does-bitcoin-back-time/ 703800;1401971349;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many boutique fx funds are out of business as of half hour ago lol 703801;1401971379;kakobrekla;;;calc 1.36438-1.35573 703802;1401971379;gribble;0.00865 703803;1401971380;Apocalyptic;xmj, it's starting 703804;1401971388;kakobrekla;86.5 pips 703805;1401971462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.22005845 = 1.1003 BTC [-] {3} 703806;1401971523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.23974636 = 0.4795 BTC [+] 703807;1401971549;kakobrekla;and its dropping moar. 703808;1401971564;pankkake;my brother works in the eur/usd options business, I'll ask him :D 703809;1401971568;kakobrekla;1.3525 703810;1401971621;mircea_popescu;A record high temperature of 52.8 C (127.0 F), was recorded at Campo Gallo, Santiago del Estero Province on October 16, 1936. 703811;1401971628;mircea_popescu;dat global warming. 703812;1401971630;xmj;jeee their m3u stream sucksssss 703813;1401971649;mircea_popescu;pankkake, im asking around too. seems a bloodbath, plenty of trend followers bought on the upswing and are well panicked. 703814;1401971653;davout;mircea_popescu: "the lulzy part is that it hasn't, and i bet you won't, close down for this." <<< whaddaya mean? 703815;1401971673;mircea_popescu;davout, make wallet, put mastercard on demo, get turned down, continue as if you hadn't. 703816;1401971677;Apocalyptic;kakobrekla, would be interesting if it hits 1.34 703817;1401971714;kakobrekla;na, not today. 703818;1401971743;davout;mircea_popescu: that's what i'm saying happened, you're not? your sentence doesn't fully compute 703819;1401971768;davout;talk to me like i'm 5, or dotcoin for the matter 703820;1401971793;mircea_popescu;davout, lol. i would expect a business in that situation to close, in general. 703821;1401971800;Apocalyptic;xmj, I don't believe they have annouced these LTROs earlier 703822;1401971864;xmj;Apocalyptic: the stream sucks so i'm not really looking at it. 703823;1401971890;xmj;Apocalyptic: it's the old "let's put out the fire by adding more oil" strategy they've been pursuing for the last five years. 703824;1401971911;davout;mircea_popescu: "let me ruin your day for you" << what do i care if *your* coffee is ruined :D 703825;1401971981;mircea_popescu;i don't actually drink much coffee 703826;1401971993;davout;yo, so make it count 703827;1401972017;davout;;;rate ecb -0,10 made my day 703828;1401972018;gribble;Error: '-0,10' is not a valid integer. 703829;1401972019;mircea_popescu;but from what i've observed merely the statement of this heresy gives coffee addicts toothache 703830;1401972044;chetty;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpXe4l1IIAAnfB1.jpg 703831;1401972053;davout;i stopped getting worked up at that kind of things the day i tried australian sparkling red wine 703832;1401972059;fluffypony;chetty: what's that? 703833;1401972080;chetty;roasting coffee with sugar is sacrilege 703834;1401972082;Apocalyptic;EUR/USD obv 703835;1401972094;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: ah missed conversation above 703836;1401972172;xmj;EUR/USD is the only currency worth watching, fwiw 703837;1401972182;davout;chetty: if you *roast* it with sugar you'd get caramel, prolly added later on 703838;1401972194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23974603 BTC [-] 703839;1401972201;pankkake;sugar is sacrilege 703840;1401972210;davout;pankkake: o/ 703841;1401972215;*;xmj pours HFCS over pankkake 703842;1401972242;davout;xmj: technically that's a pair 703843;1401972246;pankkake;pancakes are actually against my religion 703844;1401972253;Apocalyptic; ehhhh...release time? https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt // new bug affecting the bitcoin payment protocol 703845;1401972262;kakobrekla;here, so you can make yourself some backgrounds; http://i.imgur.com/HQz3UD3.png 703846;1401972272;xmj;err, yes, 703847;1401972289;davout;kakobrekla: to -moon !!1 703848;1401972291;xmj;davout: i had birthday yesterday. today it's a coworker's. obviously we've been celebrating that. 703849;1401972317;davout;xm: well, happy birthday 703850;1401972330;mircea_popescu;o wow 1.35 is gonna fall 703851;1401972340;xmj;i'm waiting for the DAX to crash 703852;1401972360;xmj;should probably revisit my broker and sell a few call options :p 703853;1401972362;Apocalyptic;french stocks are rallying 703854;1401972370;mircea_popescu; ehhhh...release time? https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt // new bug affecting the bitcoin payment protocol <<< it's lucky that all the major players ignored th efuckwits past .6 or so. 703855;1401972378;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18679 @ 0.00086464 = 16.1506 BTC [+] {2} 703856;1401972378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.23974646 = 2.3975 BTC [+] 703857;1401972387;Apocalyptic;yeah 703858;1401972408;mircea_popescu;let's see what the derps have to say. 703859;1401972430;xmj;Apocalyptic: obviously 703860;1401972436;*;davout heads to -dev, grabs popcorn 703861;1401972439;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [+] 703862;1401972443;xmj;DAX smashed through 10'000 points the first time, like it's nothing. 703863;1401972469;mircea_popescu;the silence of the guilty is deafening. 703864;1401972483;Apocalyptic; anyhow having to upgrade openssl because of critical vulnerabilities is starting to be a monthly occurence // heh 703865;1401972499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24139995 = 2.414 BTC [+] {3} 703866;1401972531;xmj;HAH 703867;1401972606;pankkake;0.9.1 makes me lol. nothing changed except version of openssl, which only affects broken platforms with bundled dependencies 703868;1401972622;pankkake;but then linux distros didn't update to it, and users wonder why it doesn't have the latest 703869;1401972629;xmj;I'm waiting for openbsd to release libressl-portable. 703870;1401972636;xmj;can't wait to replace openssh-portable :] 703871;1401972717;mircea_popescu;the exact way in which the various distros do the updating is imo the best way to diagnose usg moles in foss. 703872;1401972731;mircea_popescu;one of the few points which lends itself to statystical analysys. 703873;1401972753;pankkake;what about the debian "let's replace random data by zeros" guy? 703874;1401972763;mircea_popescu;i did say statistical. 703875;1401972776;xmj;let's buy some options. 703876;1401972793;pankkake;arguably this was because openssl was doing very weird things 703877;1401972819;mircea_popescu;"The attack can only be performed between a vulnerable client *and* server." followed by "OpenSSL clients are vulnerable in all versions of OpenSSL." for great winj, and then "Servers are only known to be vulnerable in OpenSSL 1.0.1 and 1.0.2-beta1." 703878;1401972831;mircea_popescu;someone should tell me this ALSO was accidental. 703879;1401972882;mircea_popescu;or to quote myself, 703880;1401972884;mircea_popescu;"I didnt quote or link because I support OpenSSL or their efforts. I do not. For one thing I do not believe they are honest, for the other I do not believe they are competent. In either case I do not believe the project should survive, or has any further utility. All those involved should, in my considered opinion, go home, do something else with their time, and as far as possible erase the shameful involvement wit 703881;1401972884;mircea_popescu;h OpenSSL from their resumes." 703882;1401973015;kakobrekla;1.355, someone realized usd is worthless too! 703883;1401973058;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, govt support will only work so far tho. fiat paper isn't gold, and isn't supressablre as gold 703884;1401973090;kakobrekla;myea 703885;1401973100;mircea_popescu;anyway, a negative interest rate opens the window for infinite inflation, which countries like italy or greece may actually see, however briefly. 703886;1401973206;mircea_popescu;i wonder if we'll see a draghi hour. (named after "earth hour", where people supposedly don't use any energy for a whole hour once a year, the draghi hour is an hour where nobody buys anything whatsoever. it results from inflationary price shocks, supply side inflationary blockage and people being generally poor and justifiably hopeless) 703887;1401973536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.242 BTC [+] 703888;1401973597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.24728196 = 0.4946 BTC [+] 703889;1401973973;jurov;pankkake: makalu wanted me to help him to list on mpex, i mentioned it earlier 703890;1401974146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24899999 BTC [+] 703891;1401974158;xmj;well. 703892;1401974188;xmj;My Broker requires me to accept a notice of abandonment of Bank Secrecy in order to be able to trade US Futures. 703893;1401974192;xmj;#NotGonnaHappen 703894;1401974275;mircea_popescu;lol how did that go 703895;1401974357;xmj;I hadn't logged in in more than a year. Apparently the broker has to comply with a few more KYC laws now. 703896;1401975328;Naphex;why isnt update limit/delete limit part of sql standard 703897;1401975335;Naphex;so annoying 703898;1401975346;fluffypony;http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/03/fbi-busts-russian-hacked-created-zeus-cryptolocker/9919985/ 703899;1401975346;assbot;Russian hacker engineered dazzling worldwide crime spree 703900;1401975361;davout;Naphex: use DELETE WHERE id IN (...) 703901;1401975362;Naphex;old news 703902;1401975372;Naphex;wonser whar 703903;1401975380;Naphex;wonder what took em 703904;1401975380;fluffypony;FINE 703905;1401975381;fluffypony;https://www.circle.com/2014/05/21/circle-debut-questions/ 703906;1401975385;assbot;Circle Debut Questions 703907;1401975385;fluffypony;less old new 703908;1401975385;davout;Naphex: i miss the Oracle REPLACE 703909;1401975385;fluffypony;news 703910;1401975399;Naphex;davout: yeah but where in is so shitty 703911;1401975429;Naphex;fluffypony: zeus was pure poop 703912;1401975433;davout;Naphex: on mysql it's retarded, they fixed it with mariadb 703913;1401975446;fluffypony;Naphex: but he's ELEET RUSSIAN HAXER 703914;1401975460;Naphex;davout: im a psql guy most of rhe time all is well 703915;1401975477;davout;phew :D 703916;1401975500;davout;i'll need to switch sometime 703917;1401975501;Naphex;fluffypony: i mean zeus had crappy rc4 encryption and the backend was silly php 703918;1401975514;fluffypony;lol 703919;1401975593;Apocalyptic;"zeus had crappy rc4 encryption" // must have been running on Swift too 703920;1401975625;Naphex;what says about moderb aecurity when silly russian coders can do so much dmg with such simple tools 703921;1401975654;ThickAsThieves;Sup doods 703922;1401975787;Naphex;fluffypony: the tools tla's use are much more avanced 703923;1401975793;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.07379038 = 2.1399 BTC [+] {5} 703924;1401975808;fluffypony;Naphex: no doubt 703925;1401975810;Naphex;wonder what they do with that much access 703926;1401975869;Naphex;since russians just loot 703927;1401975891;Naphex;what do the tlas and its agents do with it? 703928;1401976040;jurov;was security listed as one of swift bullet points? i doubt very much 703929;1401976063;jurov;even if it was, it des not says anything about actual implementation 703930;1401976098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.248875 = 0.9955 BTC [-] {2} 703931;1401976327;dub;they keep tabs on formor lovers mostly 703932;1401976332;dub;(true story) 703933;1401976464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00222412 = 0.4448 BTC [+] {8} 703934;1401976465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.249 = 0.498 BTC [+] 703935;1401976525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00233137 = 0.1865 BTC [+] {3} 703936;1401976540;kakobrekla;also euro back at 1.36, to the --moon 703937;1401976552;Apocalyptic;eurmoon is near 703938;1401976564;jurov;;;g s.limbs 703939;1401976565;gribble;Error: "g" is not a valid command. 703940;1401976569;jurov;;;google s.limbs 703941;1401976570;gribble;s.limbs - MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: ; MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: ; dict.cc | limbs | Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch: 703942;1401976573;jurov;muhahahaha 703943;1401976830;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.249 = 0.498 BTC [+] 703944;1401976952;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.249 = 1.743 BTC [+] 703945;1401977501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.24978761 = 12.4894 BTC [+] {11} 703946;1401977661;mircea_popescu;o look it's ThickAsThieves 703947;1401977667;mircea_popescu;you settled with da SEC yet ? 703948;1401977681;mircea_popescu;i hear going rate is like $500 for minors 703949;1401977684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [+] 703950;1401977714;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, actually afaik they got him in april. 703951;1401977745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.255 = 1.275 BTC [+] 703952;1401978036;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> you settled with da SEC yet ? --- I have no business with them at this time. 703953;1401978054;kakobrekla;its not that. they have a biz with you. 703954;1401978069;mircea_popescu;apparently it's cheaper than legal advice, too. 703955;1401978086;ThickAsThieves;I have spent more on lawyers than Erik has paid the SEC, yes 703956;1401978121;mircea_popescu; fluffypony: i mean zeus had crappy rc4 encryption and the backend was silly php << forced mistake when you're stuck working with random cheapo hosters 703957;1401978139;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: how goes the South African cat-sitting plans? 703958;1401978159;mircea_popescu; they keep tabs on formor lovers mostly << muy true. 703959;1401978173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [+] 703960;1401978177;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, ill bet you it's going to 1.3 before 1.4 703961;1401978186;mircea_popescu;!up AlexWkz 703962;1401978224;kakobrekla;you do know its 1.36 by now 703963;1401978238;ThickAsThieves;fluffypony, no updates, a euro trip is also being discussed 703964;1401978264;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: we're most likely going to be in Europe in Sept 703965;1401978273;fluffypony;so plan accordingly 703966;1401978297;kakobrekla;https://charts.mql5.com/4/897/eurusd-m5-worth-ltd-venetfx.png 703967;1401978298;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, yes. 703968;1401978300;ThickAsThieves;hehe, i'm not sure fitting london and sa into the same trip would work 703969;1401978317;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: no no - I mean we can meet up in Europe for lunch 703970;1401978318;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves, i thought it's the only way that works. 703971;1401978326;mircea_popescu;anyone other than the brits evcen fly to sa anymore ?! 703972;1401978334;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: direct flights to NY 703973;1401978360;fluffypony;and Frankfurt and Singapore and Oz and a bunch of other places 703974;1401978360;mircea_popescu;fine 703975;1401978364;mircea_popescu;i got nothing! 703976;1401978367;fluffypony;we're not *that* backwards 703977;1401978367;fluffypony;:-P 703978;1401978377;los_pantalones;come to nyc! 703979;1401978382;mircea_popescu;ola red guy. 703980;1401978408;fluffypony;los_pantalones: we'll probably do a US trip in July-ish 2016 703981;1401978409;ThickAsThieves;surely there's Washington to SA, no? 703982;1401978416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.27837499 = 4.454 BTC [+] {3} 703983;1401978430;los_pantalones;you guys plan travel out 2 years? 703984;1401978453;ThickAsThieves;maybe they are ready to retire 703985;1401978475;fluffypony;los_pantalones: rough plans yes - can't really afford the time to do more than 2 overseas holidays a year (business trips notwithstanding) 703986;1401978484;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones, just about yes 703987;1401978506;mircea_popescu;why doi you think conference has a 1 year leadin 703988;1401978512;fluffypony;^^ 703989;1401978520;los_pantalones;well, conference, ok 703990;1401978530;los_pantalones;but a quick weekend somewhere? can squeeze that in any time 703991;1401978538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28 = 1.12 BTC [+] 703992;1401978554;fluffypony;los_pantalones: we never do quick weekends overseas because flight time is always 12+ hours wherever we go 703993;1401978558;ThickAsThieves;takes a weekend just to get back and forth to many places 703994;1401978570;los_pantalones;i'm like a child and just wandered into a conversation 703995;1401978571;los_pantalones;my bad 703996;1401978578;mircea_popescu;lol 703997;1401978585;ThickAsThieves;well you're at least contrary 703998;1401978590;ThickAsThieves;fits right in 703999;1401978596;fluffypony;the trip to BA will be a 32-ish hour trip (including a 3hr layover), thank heavens for business class 704000;1401978597;los_pantalones;i went to abu dhabi for an afternoon 704001;1401978630;mircea_popescu;fluffypony, holy inferno batman. 704002;1401978634;ThickAsThieves;been digging into Anathem lately, good stuff, fucking long book. 704003;1401978655;los_pantalones;ThickAsThieves that's one of his best 704004;1401978661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00253725 = 0.2258 BTC [+] {3} 704005;1401978676;ThickAsThieves;i think i will read Antifragile next 704006;1401978682;mircea_popescu;lance sackless in abu dhabi for an afternoon : http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Remember+the+buttwalk+.+90s+kids+remember_26009e_4606557.jpg 704007;1401978738;ThickAsThieves;so ebay ceo says he owns bitcoins and worded his interview today like paypal/ebay using digital currency is inevitable 704008;1401978779;mircea_popescu;which it is. 704009;1401979022;ThickAsThieves;pankkake, you have any time for an ATC project? 704010;1401979032;ThickAsThieves;small one i think 704011;1401979053;mircea_popescu;jurov: muhahahaha << lool goog one 704012;1401979108;ThickAsThieves;need an executable of the Altcoin wallet for Windows that auto-finds nodes, so no terminal futzing is needed (also recompiling from current source would remove the coingen.io branding from currently available .exe) 704013;1401979153;mircea_popescu;actually i want some people willing to do c to windows compiles too, for eulora 704014;1401979156;mircea_popescu;and yes it's a paid thing 704015;1401979193;ThickAsThieves;same here 704016;1401979221;mircea_popescu;should prolly put it all over github. "BA HIRING WINDOWS COMPILER PERSON" 704017;1401979239;ThickAsThieves;we could use Hearns Lighthouse 704018;1401979258;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: so you want to put some reliable nodes in the default list? 704019;1401979264;ThickAsThieves;yes 704020;1401979273;ThickAsThieves;i want it to work 704021;1401979283;ThickAsThieves;a reasonable enough desire i think 704022;1401979288;fluffypony;agreed 704023;1401979292;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves, wouldnt it be better to have a sourc ehardcoded which publishes a txt manifest ? 704024;1401979315;ThickAsThieves;i have no idea 704025;1401979320;mircea_popescu;like, on start it seeds from tatssplendidlist.com/nodes.txt 704026;1401979326;mircea_popescu;then you make sure there's working ips there 704027;1401979351;ThickAsThieves;seems odd to rely on my own domain, but i guess it could work 704028;1401979379;mircea_popescu;well no but it had a domain no ? 704029;1401979383;mircea_popescu;what was it i forget 704030;1401979386;ThickAsThieves;how did Bitcoin handle it? 704031;1401979388;mircea_popescu;;;google the real altcoin 704032;1401979388;gribble;The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again.: ; The Real Altcoin (TheRealAltcoin) on Twitter: ; [NEW CASINO! SHA256] Altcoin - Bitcoin Forum: 704033;1401979394;ThickAsThieves;right 704034;1401979405;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves, similarly, originally. 704035;1401979414;ThickAsThieves;and now? 704036;1401979439;mircea_popescu;now it has a discovery mechanism 704037;1401979446;mircea_popescu;so does the atc, but the nodes are too sparse for it to workj see 704038;1401979457;ThickAsThieves;understoof 704039;1401979473;ThickAsThieves;i'll gladly put a txt wherever the programmer suggests 704040;1401979514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.28833333 = 3.46 BTC [+] {3} 704041;1401979636;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29199994 = 2.628 BTC [+] {4} 704042;1401979690;davout;ThickAsThieves fluffypony lemme me know about europe plans, I'll meet you for lunch if you guys are in london 704043;1401979713;fluffypony;davout: I've got meetings in Paris anyway, so was planning on seeing you and pankkake on that side 704044;1401979734;davout;i've never seen pankkake, apparently i smell or something 704045;1401979736;davout;:D 704046;1401979765;ThickAsThieves;i suspect pankkake hates human interaction 704047;1401979789;ThickAsThieves;well, maybe hate is the wrong word 704048;1401979796;davout;too soft? 704049;1401979819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.294 = 1.176 BTC [+] 704050;1401979820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00273929 = 0.2931 BTC [+] {4} 704051;1401979832;davout;ThickAsThieves: you gonna come to paris too at some point ? 704052;1401979846;ThickAsThieves;at some point, very likely, just hard to tell when 704053;1401979861;ThickAsThieves;the wife can only do such a trip once or twice a year 704054;1401979872;davout;let me know before boarding your plane, that'll be more than enough 704055;1401979880;ThickAsThieves;but i do like how this has opened up a dynamic of me travelling alone if i feel like it 704056;1401979891;davout;"the wife can only do such a trip once or twice a year" <<< too much romance to handle? 704057;1401979897;ThickAsThieves;haha 704058;1401979913;davout;ThickAsThieves: you got a little leash slack ? :D 704059;1401979914;ThickAsThieves;no, she loves work too much 704060;1401979979;davout;i forgot what she does 704061;1401979997;ThickAsThieves;"development" for a wildlife conservation center 704062;1401980013;ThickAsThieves;fundraising essentially 704063;1401980058;davout;my first thought for "development" of a wildlife development job was organizing inseminations 704064;1401980064;ThickAsThieves;she also part-owns an online education biz 704065;1401980099;ThickAsThieves;davout, while she has no involvement, organizing inseminations happens to be a large part of her employer's mission 704066;1401980234;davout;he's the one with the semen 704067;1401980249;ThickAsThieves;some rhinos and such being at risk for inbreeding, they ship animals around the world, to and fro, to keep a healthy mix 704068;1401980262;davout;interesting 704069;1401980279;davout;potato rhinos, wonder what one'd look like 704070;1401980328;ThickAsThieves;for all we know, all current rhinos are pretty much retarded 704071;1401980348;davout;lol 704072;1401980369;davout;we should send them to btctalk 704073;1401980390;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if other mammals have infinite hit point phenomena 704074;1401980428;ThickAsThieves;like all the smart flamingos are standing around on two legs complaining about the one-leggers all day 704075;1401980431;Apocalyptic;redditards do 704076;1401980471;ThickAsThieves;(not that flamingos are mammals...) 704077;1401980734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [-] 704078;1401980782;davout;meanwhile, btc quietly took 12 eur today 704079;1401980836;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640236.0 704080;1401980836;assbot;Mimex delisted from BitcoinBourse. Shareholders beware. 704081;1401980854;fluffypony;BitcoinBourse want 2 BTC + 1 BTC a month? 704082;1401980854;fluffypony;wtf. 704083;1401980917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.293 = 0.586 BTC [-] 704084;1401980936;ThickAsThieves;Havelock has similar fees 704085;1401980953;ThickAsThieves;it's still not enough to make money anyway 704086;1401980991;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: I don't have a problem with the fees, I have a problem with them suddenly deciding to charge the fees 704087;1401981003;fluffypony;one would think you either grandfather previous listings in, or have a delisting process for them 704088;1401981014;ThickAsThieves;i agree 704089;1401981023;ThickAsThieves;HL did similar ideas 704090;1401981031;ThickAsThieves;some things were left no fee for a while 704091;1401981035;ThickAsThieves;etc 704092;1401981107;fluffypony;then again, this is BitcoinBourse 704093;1401981113;fluffypony;source of teh lulz 704094;1401981161;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.293 = 0.879 BTC [-] 704095;1401981344;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29215763 = 1.1686 BTC [-] {2} 704096;1401981541;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: zaraza bottle << seriously!? 'зараза' == 'disease, contagion' 704097;1401981574;benkay; i'll subtly neg them by asking about their company's economics. "so... are you cashflow positive?" is king. // the subtlety's always lost and generally pointless. their feelings aren't worth protecting. go for the jugular. 704098;1401981574;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself << if i recall, you're friends with the fellow who runs it, ask him wtf 704099;1401981624;xmj;benkay: oh, don't worry. 704100;1401981645;xmj;benkay: it always yields a "no", so my script is to ask if they have paying customers. 704101;1401981649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0209994 = 0.147 BTC [+] 704102;1401981661;xmj;as that one is most often a no too, i ask how long their company is still funded. 704103;1401981665;xmj;i've scripted it. 704104;1401981710;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00086603 = 14.9823 BTC [+] {2} 704105;1401981710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 600 @ 0.00041317 = 0.2479 BTC [+] {2} 704106;1401981720;xmj;as i'm most often in company of cashflow-negative startups, i usually add something that lets them save face. 704107;1401981770;benkay; davout: drinking aero-pressed espresso in a mongodb mug << let me ruin your day for you. coffee in argentina ? comes PRE SWEET$ENED. and i don't even mean the bags. i mean the MOTHERFUCKING BEANS;. they sugar-cook them. << i only ever found 1 acceptable cup in bsas 704108;1401981832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.293 = 1.172 BTC [+] 704109;1401981843;asciilifeform;zeus trojan << very educational case. zeus is a very poorly designed turd, but it is smashingly popular on account of a thousand spamz0r idiots buying 'custom' builds and paying to have them spammed out to chumps. see also one of mp's old articles on spam being a 'cargo cult.' 704110;1401981893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.294 BTC [+] 704111;1401982129;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: crappy rc4 encryption and the backend was silly php, forced mistake when you're stuck working with random cheapo hosters << even the most pathetic public ftp can still host an rsa-signed blob for trojan payload. number of crap artists who do 'the right thing'? not 1 in 100. 704112;1401982216;benkay; on the other hand, the black market in dollars is stable. // as in price is holding? over what timeframe? 704113;1401982258;benkay;;;gettrust kleinessteak 704114;1401982259;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user kleinessteak: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=kleinessteak | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kleinessteak | Rated since: never 704115;1401982262;benkay;!up kleinessteak 704116;1401982320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07003021 = 0.3502 BTC [-] 704117;1401982886;benkay;logs done! 704118;1401983113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00299961 = 0.3 BTC [+] 704119;1401983663;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00299961 = 0.3 BTC [+] 704120;1401983674;pankkake;Shakespeare: I don't have the knowledge of windows compiles 704121;1401983683;pankkake;but it certainly is needed for Altcoin 704122;1401983723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.05653332 = 1.1307 BTC [+] {9} 704123;1401983787;mircea_popescu; too soft? << lmao 704124;1401983803;mircea_popescu;pankkake, you know i can vouch for davout, he's not annoying in person. 704125;1401983828;davout;mircea_popescu: are you implying i'm annoying online 704126;1401983845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.29239284 = 8.187 BTC [-] {5} 704127;1401983884;davout;mircea_popescu: i'd appreciate it if you could also confirm my smell is only moderate 704128;1401983908;pankkake;davout: I am not seeing anyone really. I am usually too tired :( 704129;1401983946;mircea_popescu; (not that flamingos are mammals...) << one of those moments :D 704130;1401983961;mircea_popescu;davout, i couldn't smell anything past your fanny. 704131;1401983972;mircea_popescu;omfg check me out i made a multiple entendre 704132;1401983983;*;asciilifeform chokes 704133;1401984019;davout;"davout, i couldn't smell anything past your fanny" <<< bwhahaha 704134;1401984021;mircea_popescu; one would think you either grandfather previous listings in, or have a delisting process for them << you think too far ahead to be part of the kickstarter revolution 704135;1401984026;mircea_popescu;gotta get some kicks ot the head first. 704136;1401984028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.294 BTC [+] 704137;1401984029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.98211858 BTC to 8`242 shares, 24049 satoshi per share 704138;1401984037;fluffypony;lol 704139;1401984043;pankkake;did you guys see kickstarter opened the scamgates? 704140;1401984044;davout;btw she's now officially a professionnal instructor 704141;1401984064;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ><< you familiar with how romanian twists russian words. it's like a sort of trolling. 704142;1401984074;mircea_popescu;anyway, in ro it's a girl's name, disused since the 1930s. 704143;1401984076;asciilifeform;lol yeah 704144;1401984089;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00086361 = 11.9178 BTC [-] 704145;1401984095;mircea_popescu;;;google vreau sa-mi spui, frumoasa zaraza, cine te-a iubit ; citi au plins, nebuni, dupa tine, si citi au murit. 704146;1401984096;gribble;Price List - Zaraza Club & Lounge: ; Povesti ale Micului Paris | Informal.RO: 704147;1401984158;mircea_popescu;benkay, you realise the black marketr dollar is more of a future than a spot. i should already see this future collapse in the price today. 704148;1401984167;mircea_popescu;but anyway, been 11.5ish for two weeks. 704149;1401984186;mircea_popescu;google is so useless. 704150;1401984228;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmSmCKdSPA 704151;1401984228;assbot;Cristian Vasile Zaraza - YouTube 704152;1401984290;asciilifeform;ok since 'everyone' keeps asking, there is no (public) proof that discrete logarithm problem is np-complete. more interestingly, also no rigorous proof that rsa difficulty is equal to that of factoring problem. 704153;1401984292;benkay;implying that kirchner et al have stopped printing? kinda hard to b'leev. 704154;1401984317;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, indeed. 704155;1401984327;benkay;also i would like to borrow some dogecoin. will collateralize etc. 704156;1401984330;mircea_popescu;benkay, no, implying that they don't print faster than the yus 704157;1401984339;mircea_popescu;which is not nearly as hard to believe. argentines are fucking lazy. 704158;1401984352;mircea_popescu;point in case : i go into a tiny shop to have a pile of keys copied. guy starts working. 704159;1401984365;mircea_popescu;older derp wanders into shop, to buy... a lightbulb. 704160;1401984370;asciilifeform;anyone who wants to know more re: dl or rsa, is advised to... read books. 704161;1401984378;mircea_popescu;goes into endless explanation as to where he needs it (bathroom) and whjat for (to have light) 704162;1401984386;mircea_popescu;guy is meanwhile sorta half working 704163;1401984394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.0299107 = 0.7478 BTC [+] {2} 704164;1401984395;mircea_popescu;\then stops completely to derp with this guy, who finally leaves. 704165;1401984409;mircea_popescu;then his SHOP ASSISTANT, which he apparently HAD but couldn't be bothered to bother, walks in 704166;1401984419;mircea_popescu;apparently the guy's phone rang, which ius sufficient cause to interrupr business. 704167;1401984425;mircea_popescu;so he launches into a conversation with ramon. 704168;1401984428;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: where he needs it (bathroom) and whjat for (to have light) << the inescapable conclusion is that he needs it: in his arse, and as to what for: to expand his annulus diameter. 704169;1401984443;mircea_popescu;takes them two hours to pick their nose they're so busy being social. 704170;1401984475;mircea_popescu;then i leave and he's like trying to apologize and explaoin he meant no disrespect 704171;1401984498;mircea_popescu;im like fuck you you idiot, what disrespect, we aren't friends, this isnt a fucking social call at your gentlemen's club 704172;1401984507;mircea_popescu;you do a shit job and will die hungry at this rate. 704173;1401984516;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.0281001 = 0.2248 BTC [-] 704174;1401984522;mike_c;you sound like a new yorker 704175;1401984527;mircea_popescu;i am a new yorker. 704176;1401984538;mircea_popescu;they sadly ran out of new york. 704177;1401984545;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19X7ZS2.txt ) 704178;1401984545;asciilifeform;!b 3 704179;1401984548;mircea_popescu;!up KRS1 704180;1401984555;KRS1;hey guys =D 704181;1401984560;mircea_popescu;anyway, bbl. 704182;1401984579;KRS1;had to laugh at that ..LOVE IT. <+mircea_popescu> you do a shit job and will die hungry at this rate. 704183;1401984599;KRS1;;;seen vexual 704184;1401984600;gribble;vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 18 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: rails 704185;1401984821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07318981 = 0.2928 BTC [+] {4} 704186;1401984843;davout;i'm off, ttyal 704187;1401986834;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25512 @ 0.0008667 = 22.1113 BTC [+] {2} 704188;1401987071;cgcardona;good morning bitcoin-assets o/ 704189;1401987196;benkay;morning, cgcardona 704190;1401987203;cgcardona;hey dude 704191;1401987273;benkay;how's it going? 704192;1401987383;cgcardona;pretty good. My family moved from SF back to kauai about 2 months ago and we're finally in the groove. Working remotely w/ a team from the mainland. I'm very happy. thanks for asking. You? 704193;1401987407;benkay;that sounds lovely! 704194;1401987425;cgcardona;we were in a small apartment at first but just got into something much nicer and cleaner this week w/ my own office. so this morning i'm particularly stoked :) 704195;1401987448;benkay;well, a deal closed and the wire cleared this week so i'm feeling particularly good about that 704196;1401987454;cgcardona;boom 704197;1401987463;cgcardona;yes that's one of the best types of feelings 704198;1401987478;benkay;promoted another lead myself, and had a second fall into my lap via a friend, so the pipeline is not empty either 704199;1401987505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00293658 = 0.2848 BTC [-] {3} 704200;1401987538;cgcardona;yea finding devs is the most challening thing. when in SF I witnessed many people raise money and then struggle to even find people to build their idea out. 704201;1401987574;cgcardona;i worked at Truila for a while and was on the hiring team for the mobile engineering dept. They offered really good salaries, stock, medical, etc and it was still hard to find people in SF 704202;1401987577;benkay;this is not actually a problem i have. 704203;1401987585;benkay;yet (?) 704204;1401987590;cgcardona;Google, Apple, FG, just eat em all up 704205;1401987593;cgcardona;oh really 704206;1401987594;cgcardona;? 704207;1401987597;benkay;really. 704208;1401987614;cgcardona;any reason in particular? 704209;1401987635;benkay;we have a sweet stack, pay pretty well, and don't expect to see people that often. 704210;1401987648;benkay;mind you i'm not hiring 150/hr devs 704211;1401987658;cgcardona;sure. 704212;1401987670;benkay;the stack really helps. 704213;1401987672;cgcardona;do you do web generalized stuff or crypto specific stuff? 704214;1401987679;cgcardona;i remember seeing your site once but I'm spacing on what your stack was 704215;1401987685;cgcardona;i remember the site being visually quite nice 704216;1401987693;Mats_cd03;its turtles all the way down 704217;1401987709;cgcardona;teenage mutant ninja turtles no less 704218;1401987715;benkay;web and mobile + design primarily. some actual asymmetric crypto of late as well. 704219;1401987735;benkay;we also don't really talk about the stack to non-devs. it's just not relevant about 100% of the time. 704220;1401987760;benkay;but: clojure APIs; angular single-page frontends. 704221;1401987789;benkay;datomic for data persistence and docker for process isolation 704222;1401987791;benkay;SUCH HIPSTER 704223;1401987932;cgcardona;haha 704224;1401987948;cgcardona;yea I'm rails/haml/sass/coffeescript 704225;1401987958;cgcardona;also pretty hipster i guess 704226;1401987993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.020402 = 0.102 BTC [-] {2} 704227;1401988006;cgcardona;;;ticker 704228;1401988006;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.58, Best ask: 656.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.42000, Last trade: 656.0, 24 hour volume: 10794.76087179, 24 hour low: 639.69, 24 hour high: 669.63, 24 hour vwap: 654.264998524 704229;1401988054;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00086337 = 21.1957 BTC [-] {4} 704230;1401988176;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07003 = 0.7003 BTC [-] {2} 704231;1401988237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-] 704232;1401988359;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00293885 = 0.1234 BTC [+] 704233;1401988969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0028017 = 0.2802 BTC [-] 704234;1401988970;pankkake;friedcat update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7147330#msg7147330 704235;1401988970;assbot;ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It 704236;1401988991;mike_c;;;bc,stats 704237;1401988994;gribble;Current Blocks: 304382 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 33 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 hours, 14 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11741647483.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.29879 704238;1401989020;Naphex;so, mike_c is #bitcoin-assets suposed to kinda work like P2P vc firm?:) 704239;1401989026;mike_c;!up mdev 704240;1401989077;mike_c;Naphex: in what way? i see it more like an actually useful entrepreneur club. 704241;1401989084;mdev;thanks 704242;1401989091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 704243;1401989101;mdev;is bitcoin address reuse dangerous? 704244;1401989111;Naphex;not yet 704245;1401989112;Naphex;:P 704246;1401989128;mike_c;mdev: http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/ 704247;1401989129;assbot;Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin user anonimity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 704248;1401989129;Naphex;(excluding anonimization) 704249;1401989193;mdev;privacy and all that is fine 704250;1401989228;mdev;#bitcoin ops quieted me, probably indefinitely because he says bitcoin address reuse is dangerous, even though link after link that i've found, while most discourage it, non i've seen actually say it's dangerous 704251;1401989250;mdev;the android bug was a result of a bad random number gen 704252;1401989252;pankkake;addresses that never had outgoing transactions are sligthly more secure, as the private key is hidden 704253;1401989260;pankkake;public* 704254;1401989262;Naphex;i'm guessing they just want to stay with the privacy line 704255;1401989274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00280024 = 0.28 BTC [-] {2} 704256;1401989292;Naphex;also if you do a lot of transactions and don't want to double spend you're going to have to use multiple addresses 704257;1401989301;pankkake;if you were quieted by #bitcoin ops welcome here! 704258;1401989314;pankkake;;;ident mdev 704259;1401989314;gribble;Nick 'mdev', with hostmask 'mdev!~mdev@unaffiliated/mdev', is not identified. 704260;1401989371;pankkake;Naphex: you could also do it like MP, with a unique transaction amount 704261;1401989378;pankkake;though it is definitively a weird idea 704262;1401989392;Naphex;what do you mean? 704263;1401989421;pankkake;hm unless I am mistaken in what you want 704264;1401989434;Naphex;i ment that if you use a single bitcoin address 704265;1401989447;Naphex;you can only move the full amount every time 704266;1401989457;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 704267;1401989458;pankkake;but to distinguish transactions the process is : "I want to send 1 BTC" "ok, send me 1.00000832 BTC" 704268;1401989470;Naphex;so if you don't want to double spend / or do more then 1 transaction per confirmation 704269;1401989471;pankkake;oh, well, no. you can have multiple inputs on one address 704270;1401989476;Naphex;the only option is to use multiple addresses 704271;1401989511;Naphex;say i have 1 BTC in 1A 704272;1401989515;Naphex;and i want to send 0.5 704273;1401989516;pankkake;https://blockchain.info/unspent?active=1nick1RghphWeKG47ZDjpjJQLnjFvwCty&format=html 704274;1401989516;assbot;Unspent Outputs 1nick1RghphWeKG47ZDjpjJQLnjFvwCty 704275;1401989533;pankkake;this address, for example, has 0.032 + 63.69 BTC 704276;1401989554;pankkake;and if you send say 0.1, only one of the two will be used 704277;1401989736;pankkake;you can easily see that with coin control features of bitcoin-qt 704278;1401989762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9257 @ 0.00086158 = 7.9756 BTC [-] 704279;1401989795;Naphex;aye, i shsould've said outputs :P 704280;1401989874;Naphex;unspent outputs* 704281;1401990152;benkay;bitcoin "devs" are idiotically and self-destructively committed to this "no reuse" idea, ever since implementing the braindead wallet schema that creates new addrs for your change 704282;1401990174;benkay;this is why bitcoin-qt wallets go bad after some tens of transactions 704283;1401990189;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09333333 = 0.28 BTC [+] {3} 704284;1401990217;asciilifeform;benkay: hypothesis: the devs have an 'address telescope' (box that continuously generates random addrs/keys) and are the kind of folks who like to play lotto. 704285;1401990252;benkay;hah that's a good one asciilifeform 704286;1401990269;mdev;the public key argument thing, about it being exposed after the first transaction, not sure why that's an issue, RSA is based off handing out public keys, I know bitcoin uses ECDMA or whatever, but still if the public key can't be trusted 704287;1401990275;mdev;don't get why that's being used 704288;1401990296;Naphex;mdev: if there are not transaction your pubkey is unavailable 704289;1401990304;Naphex;no* transactions 704290;1401990310;*;asciilifeform moved to different town recently, there are lottery machines everywhere 704291;1401990313;mdev;sure, but once your public key is out there 704292;1401990317;mdev;don't get why they're so concerned 704293;1401990340;mdev;if that alg is weak or they're not sure about its reliability why didn't they use a more trustworthy one like RSA 704294;1401990350;mdev;since that's relied on with HTTPS all day ever day 704295;1401990366;asciilifeform;mdev: long keys 704296;1401990392;benkay;simple solution: top up your hot address from cold addresses infrequently, spend from the hot address as frequently as you want. minimize risk by minimizing coins in the hot, potentially compromisable address. 704297;1401990446;benkay;old hat, this. 704298;1401990525;mdev;so they used a weaker alg to shorten the key length, does that mean if the alg they used gets compromised all addresses that have done transactions are vulnerable anyway? 704299;1401990529;mdev;if they have coins in them? 704300;1401990538;pankkake;it's not necessarily weaker 704301;1401990558;mdev;well that seems to be the only argument i've seen, security wise as far as not reusing addresses 704302;1401990571;mdev;the fear it's vulnerable or could be 704303;1401990591;Naphex;its related to quantum computing 704304;1401990605;Naphex;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6021/bitcoin-is-not-quantum-safe-and-how-we-can-fix/ 704305;1401990606;assbot;Bitcoin Is Not Quantum-Safe, And How We Can Fix It When Needed Bitcoin Magazine 704306;1401990609;pankkake;well, if you can have the extra security, why not. but I feel like ripemd160 would be breakable before ecdsa ;) 704307;1401990621;pankkake;lol quantum 704308;1401990631;asciilifeform;mdev: mp had an entirely unrelated argument (in favour of reusing) - http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity 704309;1401990632;assbot;Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin user anonimity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 704310;1401990642;pankkake;it was just linked before 704311;1401990660;asciilifeform;ah right 704312;1401990690;*;asciilifeform didn't read log 704313;1401990803;BingoBoingo;pankkake: I never proposed anything that old... Everything I supposed is still 64 bit... 704314;1401991067;BingoBoingo;%book 704315;1401991068;atcbot;75k@202 10k@200 2k@185 | 50k@143 175k@142 34k@140 704316;1401991348;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00086132 = 21.1454 BTC [-] {3} 704317;1401991373;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/1800crescendo/gatsby 704318;1401991373;assbot;Crescendo - Gatsby (Official Single) by Cre_scen_do on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 704319;1401991539;Mats_cd03;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OTPOKaz8o4 704320;1401991539;assbot;Milky Chance - Flashed Junk Mind - YouTube 704321;1401992221;asciilifeform;http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/05/shrinkflation-in-usa.html 704322;1401992222;assbot;SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: "Shrinkflation" in USA 704323;1401992234;asciilifeform;^ i've been noticing this for years, evidently not the only one 704324;1401992324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00086263 = 16.0018 BTC [+] {2} 704325;1401992398;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Let us not forget the US's fauxartisinalflation where the same old crap is fancied up and then marked up (also in smaller packages). 704326;1401992448;Mats_cd03;but, boutique 704327;1401992475;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i'd guess that this kind of thing is driven by ordinary consumer product shrinkflation, rather than vice versa 704328;1401992488;asciilifeform;if you're gonna buy a $10 bar of soap, it might as well be made from weasel fat if you go in for that kind of thing. 704329;1401992550;asciilifeform;the practical limit for 'shrinkflation' is, i imagine, the point where the pharmacy and its supply chain can no longer compete with your neighbour brewing soap from corpses or whatever in his cellar. 704330;1401992576;asciilifeform;a kind of 'soft' deindustrialization. 704331;1401992726;asciilifeform;unrelated: 704332;1401992727;asciilifeform;http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/04/usd-sniffing-dogs-in-argentine-borders.html 704333;1401992727;assbot;SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: USD Sniffing Dogs in Argentine Borders 704334;1401992736;asciilifeform;^ mircea_popescu, chetty: can you comment? 704335;1401992812;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 704336;1401992973;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I was more thinking of grain products, like beer, bread, etc. Where a rougher cheaper version of the same final product finds itself placed on the shelf as a "premium" good. 704337;1401993095;BingoBoingo;Especially all of the "craft beers" that are born the same place place as Busch lite, Coors, and Miller. It's also a field where... Neigbhors producing fould products in the basement is increasing. 704338;1401993138;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: a fellow upstairs from my old flat ran a full scale brewery (in a similarly small flat...) 704339;1401993169;asciilifeform;complete with heating systems, filtration gizmos, computer controls. 704340;1401993205;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: One of my brothers does something similar. 704341;1401993239;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00086301 = 2.1575 BTC [+] {2} 704342;1401993272;BingoBoingo;I haven't seen many home brews though that avoid the inadverdent inclusion of undesirable flora in their fermentation process. 704343;1401993292;asciilifeform;i tasted his product, survived. 704344;1401993328;Mats_cd03;yuengling has made its way into boston 704345;1401993336;Mats_cd03;is not bad 704346;1401993384;lobbes;just had a yuengling at lunch - I like it as well 704347;1401993395;mike_c;i disagree, boston is too cold. 704348;1401993405;BingoBoingo;The brother once tried making a pear cider instead of a beer with te standard industrial grain. It revealed the small off taste in his product for a while was an enterococcous which could finally thrive on something other than shitty grain. He did not take my advice for cleansing his setup after that episode. 704349;1401993419;BingoBoingo;;;google drinking record barrel fire 704350;1401993420;gribble;Lammers Barrel Factory - Environmental Protection Agency: ; Fire Hydrant Operation and Inspection - Acrp.com: ; Fire hydrant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 704351;1401993445;BingoBoingo;;;google site:thedrinkingrecord.com proper barrel fire 704352;1401993445;gribble;A Proper Barrel Fire: A secure way to dispose of data storage | Bingo ...: 704353;1401993455;BingoBoingo;^ Something like that 704354;1401993483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.289 = 1.445 BTC [-] 704355;1401993509;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: barrel fire with disks << don't do it near folks you want to stay on friendly terms with. 704356;1401993605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2899 = 0.5798 BTC [+] 704357;1401993608;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'm telling you if you minimize the pcb content of the fire it isn't any worse than the smell when other locals burn yard waste. Also hotter fires produce less smells. 704358;1401993664;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: unless you're in a justified hurry, just burn the platters. 704359;1401993705;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Usually what I do. NAND is also relatively clean burning... 704360;1401993742;diametric;hahaha http://www.coindesk.com/us-government-bans-researcher-supercomputer-mining/ 704361;1401993743;assbot;US Government Bans Researcher for Supercomputer Bitcoin Mining 704362;1401993762;asciilifeform;old news? 704363;1401993834;diametric;not sure when it took place but the report was published today it seems 704364;1401993838;BingoBoingo;Looks like further consequences of old news. 704365;1401993886;asciilifeform;no mention of what kind of machine was involved 704366;1401993911;asciilifeform;if it was one of the (rare) fpga clusters, it might've been interesting. 704367;1401993971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02400013 = 0.36 BTC [-] {2} 704368;1401994212;pankkake;!up mdev 704369;1401994215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.289965 = 2.8997 BTC [+] {3} 704370;1401994337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02099929 = 0.21 BTC [+] 704371;1401994373;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: "I have a suspicion that the entire scheme is vulnerable to Gdelization." << I like how you raised this in 2010 and the problem of this in Urbit has only grown... 704372;1401994459;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00086501 = 12.1966 BTC [+] 704373;1401994473;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: urbit is drowning in its own shit, just like every other software project which clings to the ubiquitous 1970s conceptual crapola. nothing exotic/godelian about it. 704374;1401994616;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I'd differ with you on the Godellian problem of 70's crapola being exotic. 704375;1401994642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [+] 704376;1401994655;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: you might be thinking of this: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55 704377;1401994657;assbot;Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it. 704378;1401994719;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: problem is mundane/human rather than mathematical. excess complexity makes everyone who is trying to 'swallow' a discipline (or particular engineering design) stupider. quite like tying weights to a marathon runner. 704379;1401994823;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: urbit is actually a great example of what happens when some bozo thinks he can substitute mathematical trickery for understandability 704380;1401994840;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Yeah, I've been rereading early loper and looking back at the urbit groups. 704381;1401994886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.29401999 = 14.701 BTC [+] {7} 704382;1401994887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02099929 = 0.105 BTC [+] 704383;1401995000;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: here's a good educational example of how the founding premise of crap computing, 'you can abstract over complexity', is a lie: http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hacks.html#item154 704384;1401995001;assbot;HAKMEM -- PROGRAMMING HACKS -- DRAFT, NOT YET PROOFED 704385;1401995008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2948 = 1.7688 BTC [+] 704386;1401995035;benkay; Especially all of the "craft beers" that are born the same place place as Busch lite, Coors, and Miller. It's also a field where... Neigbhors producing fould products in the basement is increasing. // in the beer case, that 'fould' is far superior to that coming out of the mass-produced garbage 704387;1401995066;asciilifeform;(for smart-arses who answer, 'this won't work with a language having a full numeric tower' - the answer is, we can tear the paper off your abstraction by analyzing timing) 704388;1401995069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2948 = 2.0636 BTC [+] 704389;1401995076;jurov;usd shiffing dogs? bah. i hope there are no btc sniffing dogs next year 704390;1401995088;benkay;smelling numbers 704391;1401995092;benkay;stinky numbers 704392;1401995098;jurov;dogecoins :D 704393;1401995103;BingoBoingo;It's a mundane problem of human stupidity abusing the human capacity for intelligence. I'd definitely call the venture Augustinian. 704394;1401995152;asciilifeform;hope there are no btc sniffing dogs << laugh, but i bet some bozo is working on ferreting out 'kulaks' through pheromonal sensing of one kind or another. fellow who walks around knowing he's loaded, probably can be smelled, in principle 704395;1401995233;kakobrekla;so thats why we couldnt smell davout over fanny 704396;1401995313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.29499999 = 3.54 BTC [+] {2} 704397;1401995332;BingoBoingo;benkay: There are reasons I prefer distilled spirits. There are a few sulphur compounds that are too... unpleasant to be tasted if it can be avoided. (most wine avoids this problem. I imagine this is because the prefered flora producing fermentation are more civilized). 704398;1401995417;benkay;BingoBoingo: are these sulphurs in all beers? 704399;1401995457;BingoBoingo;benkay: Not all. A lot of the homebrews can pick them up through poor hygiene allowing undesirable flora to produce them. 704400;1401995460;asciilifeform;https://www.eff.org/torchallenge << add eff to stooge list ? 704401;1401995462;assbot;Tor Challenge 704402;1401995516;mike_c;this line cracks me up every time 704403;1401995526;mike_c;"But at present, the microscope again and again goes 'clang!' against the table, the nails slowly and crookedly creep inward, and tiny shards of the world’s finest lenses fly in all directions." 704404;1401995533;BingoBoingo;EFF seems to suffer from the librarian view of technology, hard to tell if they are stooges or unaware. 704405;1401995546;asciilifeform;'stooge' needn't imply awareness 704406;1401995660;BingoBoingo;Fair enough. 704407;1401995849;danielpbarron;my brother is into beer making; his last batch was some sort of IPA and I liked it a lot (for someone who doesn't generally drink beer) 704408;1401996106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 300 @ 0.00039777 = 0.1193 BTC [+] 704409;1401996108;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Highlight of the Loper comments probably has to be "Dont make the mistake almost all engineers make: believing that the evolutionary tree of technological possibilities is trimmed by a benevolent gardener, rather than torn up by a mindless storm. Leaving not the most viable and fruitful branches, but a fairly random selection of the thickest." 704410;1401996216;BingoBoingo;related http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/06/medicine-by-committee.html 704411;1401996216;assbot;Doctor Grumpy in the House: Medicine by committee 704412;1401996347;BingoBoingo;!up RagnarDanneskjol 704413;1401996350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02460792 = 0.2461 BTC [+] {2} 704414;1401996405;asciilifeform;must be pretty rought to be one of the many ragnar danneskjolds on the net. everywhere you go, no one gets the reference. 704415;1401996427;BingoBoingo;indeed 704416;1401996514;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: The futility of your efforts on Bitcointalk http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/09/overdose-victim-mutters-dont-give-me-narcan-as-medics-arrive-on-the-scene/ 704417;1401996515;assbot;Overdose Victim Mutters Dont Give Me Narcan - Gomerblog 704418;1401996534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+] 704419;1401996553;fluffypony;*clicks* 704420;1401996628;BingoBoingo;!up adrrr 704421;1401996636;BingoBoingo;!up mjr_ 704422;1401996645;BingoBoingo;!up reeses 704423;1401996670;fluffypony;lol 704424;1401996717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2949999 = 1.18 BTC [-] 704425;1401996776;pankkake;"He started to threaten all our wives and children, name by name" this is indeed like the forum 704426;1401997143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1080 @ 0.0004186 = 0.4521 BTC [+] {3} 704427;1401997570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24122 @ 0.00086633 = 20.8976 BTC [+] {3} 704428;1401997769;adrrr;Hi, I received my piper wallet :) but wrong electrical outlet, maybe a specialist could advise me about the place to find an adapter (France) ? ty 704429;1401997811;pankkake;most supermarkets sell universal adapters 704430;1401997845;pankkake;http://www.sabmegastore.com/images/articles/a/ADA-ALIM-SEC-UNI.jpg 704431;1401997850;adrrr;k thanks 704432;1401998119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5638 @ 0.00086368 = 4.8694 BTC [-] 704433;1401998241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.31322495 = 12.529 BTC [+] {5} 704434;1401998303;benkay;for 600/yr, you can get either: amazon's rapaciously underpowered m1.medium with 1 vcpu 3.76G ram and apparently 4G of ssd (???????) OR a quad-core i7 with 32G ram and 4T 7200 platters and 20G of space at Hetzner 704435;1401998317;benkay;to throw fuel on the 'cloud' fire. 704436;1401998382;pankkake;the overpricing isn't all that bothers me. it's the usual ignorance, for example not knowing "cloud" storage is usually lying to you 704437;1401998391;pankkake;and you end up with data corruption by ignoring it 704438;1401998424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.329 = 9.212 BTC [+] 704439;1401998516;mike_c;benkay: link? i don't see dedicated hetzner's for less than $800 a year 704440;1401998526;mike_c;and an m1 is $420 a year 704441;1401998549;benkay;ha lol okay so euros are not dollars first off 704442;1401998551;benkay;idiot kid... 704443;1401998556;benkay;<-- 704444;1401998570;mike_c;ah, k 704445;1401998575;benkay;and an m1 medium is about 600 704446;1401998606;mike_c;an m1 is exactly $422.20 a year 704447;1401998613;mike_c;m1.m 704448;1401998622;benkay;scuse me. m3 medium. 704449;1401998634;mike_c;those are cheaper 704450;1401998655;mike_c;$379.68 a year 704451;1401998665;mike_c;cloud rulez! 704452;1401998674;benkay;are you looking at reserved instances? 704453;1401998677;mike_c;yes 704454;1401998716;asciilifeform;i've caught myself wondering if a 'cloud' company which explicitly promises to steal and use your data for whatever purpose, might be even cheaper. 704455;1401998720;asciilifeform;then again, google already exists. 704456;1401998759;mike_c;plus, i can't shoot my hetzner box in the head at will. 704457;1401998809;benkay;yeah it's a thing 704458;1401998912;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1380 @ 0.00041861 = 0.5777 BTC [+] {2} 704459;1401999122;mike_c;pankkake: what do you mean about the storage lying to you? you mean about whether data has been committed? 704460;1401999130;pankkake;yes 704461;1401999156;mike_c;hm. hard drives do the same thing though. write caches and what not. 704462;1401999183;pankkake;that's one of the reasons to use journaling filesystems 704463;1401999857;Mats_cd03;hetzner is an abomination 704464;1401999879;mike_c;why? i've heard good things previously. 704465;1401999896;Mats_cd03;horrible customer service 704466;1401999914;pankkake;you get what you pay for basically - same as ovh 704467;1401999926;Apocalyptic;^ 704468;1402000168;Mats_cd03;north koreans shouting ones and zeros into telephones have better uptime 704469;1402000368;Mats_cd03;;;ticker all 704470;1402000368;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message) 704471;1402000372;Mats_cd03;;;ticker 704472;1402000373;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 661.0, Best ask: 662.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 661.0, 24 hour volume: 10829.52791365, 24 hour low: 639.69, 24 hour high: 669.63, 24 hour vwap: 655.562141616 704473;1402000560;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 4600 @ 0.00021725 = 0.9994 BTC [+] 704474;1402001047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3289999 BTC [-] 704475;1402001108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3289999 = 0.987 BTC [-] 704476;1402001654;ThickAsThieves;http://newsbtc.com/2014/06/05/irs-says-bitcoin-fbar-reporting-tax-season-required/ 704477;1402001656;assbot;IRS Says No Bitcoin FBAR Reporting This Tax Season Required | newsBTC 704478;1402001731;ThickAsThieves;for those of you who recall our tax conversation while walking around romania 704479;1402001901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00299693 = 0.1978 BTC [+] {3} 704480;1402002200;BingoBoingo;http://thecodelesscode.com/case/144 704481;1402002200;assbot;The Codeless Code: Case 144 Mnemonic 704482;1402002450;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14513 @ 0.00086672 = 12.5787 BTC [+] 704483;1402002584;mike_c;uh, who the hell wrote that URL / title combination? 704484;1402002600;mike_c;url = "reporting required". title = "no reporting required" 704485;1402002644;punkman;mike_c: probably some retarded "SEO" plugin for Wordpress 704486;1402002730;punkman;totally makes sense to have "no" in the stoplist 704487;1402002914;FabianB;;;ticker 704488;1402002915;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 659.12, Best ask: 660.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 660.5, 24 hour volume: 10635.05141923, 24 hour low: 639.69, 24 hour high: 669.63, 24 hour vwap: 655.63550343 704489;1402002938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.0029999 = 0.462 BTC [+] 704490;1402002941;mike_c;good for click bait. /2014/06/05/bitcoin-declared-illegal-everywhere/ "Bitcoin has not been declared illegal everywhere" 704491;1402003061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+] {2} 704492;1402003487;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00086433 = 8.2544 BTC [-] {2} 704493;1402003629;kakobrekla;yeah bb could go /bet/786/bitcoin-berkshire-investment/ 704494;1402003792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0204011 = 0.1836 BTC [-] 704495;1402003836;mike_c;;;calc 192000 / [ticker --last] 704496;1402003837;gribble;290.403085533 704497;1402003847;mike_c;warren's getting smacked 704498;1402004035;FabianB;[]bot broken? 704499;1402004292;BingoBoingo;%book 704500;1402004293;atcbot;75k@202 10k@200 2k@185 | 3k@150 50k@143 175k@142 704501;1402004436;mike_c;;;bc,stats 704502;1402004438;gribble;Current Blocks: 304414 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 9 minutes and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11758984658.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.46461 704503;1402004585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3289999 = 0.987 BTC [-] 704504;1402004707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0029945 = 0.1677 BTC [-] 704505;1402004768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.000078 = 0.156 BTC [+] 704506;1402004829;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3249 BTC [-] 704507;1402005048;artifexd;FabianB, wassup with []bot? 704508;1402005137;artifexd;Ah. Looks like it got booted. 704509;1402005286;BingoBoingo;%diff 704510;1402005288;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 164414.15 in 1987 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -77.02 704511;1402005452;Naphex;ciacada's 3301 go shake your tymbals 011011000110111101101100 704512;1402005457;Naphex;o/ 704513;1402005750;BingoBoingo;%ticker 704514;1402005751;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 219 Last Price: 202 24h-Vol: 237k High: 202 Low: 140 VWAP: 164 704515;1402005760;ThickAsThieves;there's a new pool 704516;1402005798;BingoBoingo;%book 704517;1402005799;atcbot;10k@239 5k@229 2k@219 | 3k@150 50k@143 175k@142 704518;1402005821;ThickAsThieves;http://ispace.co.uk 704519;1402005823;assbot;iSpace Mining Pools 704520;1402005827;ThickAsThieves;i like how ATC is at the top 704521;1402005836;BingoBoingo;Nice 704522;1402005843;ThickAsThieves;I was smart enough to choose an A name 704523;1402005849;fluffypony;lol 704524;1402005851;ThickAsThieves;ABCoin 704525;1402005852;fluffypony;such smart 704526;1402005856;fluffypony;AAAAAcoin 704527;1402005927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10146 @ 0.00086549 = 8.7813 BTC [+] 704528;1402005987;ThickAsThieves;something occurs to me as i reach chapter 45 of Anathem - this is basically a quantum mechanics debate mapped over the story aspects of star wars 704529;1402006198;BingoBoingo;http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140605202211 704530;1402006198;assbot;OpenSSL Releases Bugfixes, Advance Notice To Some Vendors But Not OpenBSD 704531;1402006238;benkay;petty. 704532;1402006261;BingoBoingo;Interesting 704533;1402006281;Naphex;more openssl updates.. great 704534;1402006319;BingoBoingo;I believe these were mentioned in the logs earlier today. This bite from the drama llama I haven't seen shared yet 704535;1402006325;Naphex;1.0.1h-r1 stable'd on gentoo 704536;1402006413;kakobrekla;Last Block: long time ago < lol 704537;1402006501;BingoBoingo;Ohio: http://deadspin.com/cleveland-politician-proposes-tying-stadium-money-to-wi-1586674087 704538;1402006501;assbot;Cleveland Politician Proposes Tying Stadium Money To Wins 704539;1402006659;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11154 @ 0.00086549 = 9.6537 BTC [+] 704540;1402007147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00281458 = 0.2955 BTC [-] {2} 704541;1402007452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3279 = 0.6558 BTC [+] 704542;1402007757;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.328 BTC [+] 704543;1402008025;BingoBoingo;http://fittish.deadspin.com/running-coach-fired-for-running-boston-marathon-1585122341/all 704544;1402008026;assbot;Running Coach Fired For Running Boston Marathon 704545;1402008062;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30000001 BTC [-] 704546;1402008644;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140605202211 << the pill against this, as has been abundantly obvious for months to anyone who gives half a shit, is to take ssl out to the back of the shed and shoot it. 704547;1402008644;assbot;OpenSSL Releases Bugfixes, Advance Notice To Some Vendors But Not OpenBSD 704548;1402008720;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The OpenSSL problem is deeper than SSL sucking as so many shitpiles just reuse their functions for other crypto applications 704549;1402008733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3289999 BTC [+] 704550;1402008760;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i know this. the lazy will pay. 704551;1402008843;BingoBoingo;The dung beetles are already parting the shit castle and rolling it away in those shitballs as they do. 704552;1402008898;asciilifeform;they will see to it that as much of the turd as possible lives on, remains ubiquitous. 704553;1402008958;asciilifeform;incidentally, afaik every known btc miner rolled in openssl 704554;1402008961;asciilifeform;how many patched? 704555;1402008999;asciilifeform;how many idiots with miners sitting on tor (why? ask them, not me) 704556;1402009009;Mats_cd03;lol why 704557;1402009016;BingoBoingo;Hard to say. I imagine people who still brush these things off will be learning Forth in the Coal mines within a decade 704558;1402009035;asciilifeform;nah, biodiesel. 704559;1402009092;BingoBoingo;Have to distract them from the biodiesel with make work until they are needed. 704560;1402009138;asciilifeform;given the track record, one almost imagines they'll jump in the pot voluntarily, so long as it's the fashionable thing to do. 704561;1402009245;BingoBoingo;#bitcoin-assets "Where Javascript is crackpot drivel" 704562;1402009280;asciilifeform;!up mdev 704563;1402009321;mdev;thanks 704564;1402009334;mdev;just wondering, why is it so hard to talk in here 704565;1402009341;mdev;you guys have spammers or something? 704566;1402009344;asciilifeform;had. 704567;1402009356;mdev;ahh ok 704568;1402009366;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3CCBW3Q.txt ) 704569;1402009366;BingoBoingo;!b 4 704570;1402009385;mike_c;;;ident mdev 704571;1402009385;gribble;Nick 'mdev', with hostmask 'mdev!~mdev@unaffiliated/mdev', is not identified. 704572;1402009405;mike_c;if you get in the WoT somebody might rate you and you can voice yourself. 704573;1402009438;asciilifeform;mdev: http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m << instructions for becoming a known human and self-voicing 704574;1402009440;assbot;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 704575;1402009465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.020999 = 0.168 BTC [+] {2} 704576;1402009516;mdev;what does Wot stand for? 704577;1402009539;asciilifeform;mdev: http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php << manual 704578;1402009539;assbot;#bitcoin-otc web of trust 704579;1402009541;benkay;;;google bitcoin web of trust 704580;1402009542;gribble;#bitcoin-otc web of trust: ; #bitcoin-otc: ; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: 704581;1402009545;kakobrekla;world of turds 704582;1402009577;kakobrekla;no wait, tanks. it was tanks. 704583;1402009605;asciilifeform;trypanosomes. 704584;1402009643;mike_c;World of Tramborghinis 704585;1402009670;mike_c;similar to 24 hours of LeMons 704586;1402009672;asciilifeform;http://cl.jroo.me/z3/l/G/p/e/a.baa-Trabant-made-as-the-movie-ca.jpg 704587;1402009712;mike_c;for those of you who have the misfortune of not knowing: http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/ 704588;1402010512;BingoBoingo;!up peterl 704589;1402010525;peterl;hi 704590;1402010535;BingoBoingo;Hi 704591;1402010563;mdev;are you guys developers or mostly just traders? 704592;1402010578;mdev;trying to figure out what this channel is about, been looking at the sites in the links 704593;1402010598;peterl;stepping out to mow the lawn, will voice myself when I am back later. 704594;1402010608;asciilifeform;mdev: i'm still not 100% sure what this channel's about, and i've been here for ages. 704595;1402010613;mdev;heh 704596;1402010618;peterl;mdev this is a channel for people who are actually using bitcoins 704597;1402010639;mdev;learned on reddit that "fresh cut grass" smell, is a chemical grass releases when it's in pain 704598;1402010651;mdev;or maybe distress, so yeah, kind of depressing 704599;1402010660;asciilifeform;or, alternatively, phosgene. 704600;1402010676;asciilifeform;(if you're smelling cut grass, but there is no grass... put on your mask.) 704601;1402010726;mdev;http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/re85e/til_the_smell_of_freshly_cut_grass_is_actually_a/ there's the link on it, if interested @peter1 704602;1402010740;mdev;since you're about to go mow, also thanks for the clarity, so you guys trade, very neat 704603;1402010766;benkay;lePubicMound 704604;1402010767;mdev;considering bitcoins were worth pennies a few years ago, and peaked over 1k, plus the fact they're limited 704605;1402010785;mdev;makes it hard to sell them, considering their increased value over time 704606;1402010800;benkay;mdev: i'll buy 'em lol 704607;1402010820;mdev;:) 704608;1402010836;mdev;I wonder what the early bitcoiners that spent like 1k bitcoins on pizza's think about that now 704609;1402010860;mdev;!calc 704610;1402010866;mdev;.calc 704611;1402010882;mdev;;;calc 704612;1402010883;gribble;(calc ) -- Returns the value of the evaluated . The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact. 704613;1402010898;mdev;;;ticker 704614;1402010899;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 661.6, Best ask: 663.92, Bid-ask spread: 2.32000, Last trade: 661.6, 24 hour volume: 10762.83888804, 24 hour low: 639.69, 24 hour high: 669.63, 24 hour vwap: 656.490833197 704615;1402010906;mircea_popescu;mdev, so who're you 704616;1402010920;mdev;;;calc 661.6 x 1000 704617;1402010920;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 704618;1402010943;kakobrekla;;;calc 1000 * [ticker --last] 704619;1402010945;gribble;663920 704620;1402010945;kakobrekla;fyi 704621;1402010975;mdev;mircea_popsecu just a dev who's interested in bitcoins, I was quieted in #bitcoin and recommended here when I got into a disagreement about reusing addresses 704622;1402010983;mike_c;also fyi, to multiply by 1000 you just add 3 zeros ;) 704623;1402010989;mircea_popescu;lol 704624;1402010998;mircea_popescu;the irony of it. who recomended it ? 704625;1402011001;kakobrekla;omg mike_c mind blown 704626;1402011014;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: 704627;1402011014;mircea_popescu;mircea_popescu: mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself << if i recall, you're friends with the fellow who runs it, ask him wtf << well what's to ask ? boy likes girl, girl doesn't like boy. what would you ask him ? 704628;1402011019;kakobrekla;;;calc [ticker --last] + 000 704629;1402011020;gribble;661.01 704630;1402011021;kakobrekla;thar 704631;1402011024;mdev;iwilcox, I may have linked him an article about it, that 704632;1402011032;mike_c;doh, i coulda swore that worked 704633;1402011036;mircea_popescu;methinks kako is maybe not the best person to be running funds and shit 704634;1402011039;mircea_popescu;he can't even add zeros 704635;1402011045;kakobrekla;lol 704636;1402011046;benkay;0 + 0 704637;1402011050;mircea_popescu;HOW ARE WE TO EXPECT A MOON RETURN 704638;1402011058;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: perhaps ask him how he intends to sell the gurl's favours 704639;1402011070;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if she won't even put out for him 704640;1402011084;mircea_popescu;i think ima just watch it for now :D 704641;1402011090;asciilifeform;lol 704642;1402011117;asciilifeform;!up mdev 704643;1402011134;mdev;thanks, was the 1k+ per btc to the price it is now, solely a result of mtgox going under? 704644;1402011136;mircea_popescu;benkay [...]<< i only ever found 1 acceptable cup in bsas << no actually there;s plenty, you just need good intel :D 704645;1402011149;mircea_popescu;mdev, it uniquely had nothing to do with it. 704646;1402011161;mdev;really? what caused it then 704647;1402011186;mike_c;it was actually the reverse, the price dropping killed gox. 704648;1402011212;mircea_popescu;that's complicated. 704649;1402011216;kakobrekla;no, the killed dropped gox reverse 704650;1402011228;BingoBoingo;OMG Where's dotcoin 704651;1402011233;mircea_popescu;brokle kaka! 704652;1402011241;mike_c;obviously kako, but don't confuse him with the advanced shit yet. 704653;1402011242;mircea_popescu;!up mikaeldice 704654;1402011260;kakobrekla;myea, ill leave him to you guys. 704655;1402011293;mike_c;how'd the euro end up today? any new cool huge pictures? 704656;1402011314;mircea_popescu;o ya is it 1.4 yet ? 704657;1402011341;kakobrekla;https://charts.mql5.com/4/901/eurusd-m5-worth-ltd-venetfx.png 704658;1402011356;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2900001 = 0.58 BTC [-] 704659;1402011358;kakobrekla;smooth sailing 704660;1402011395;mike_c;obviously you shoulda bought at 1.35. 704661;1402011403;kakobrekla;obv! 704662;1402011405;mircea_popescu;also in the news, earlier today : argentina "hallo mr mp, in this here argentina all our keyboards are spanish" ; mp : "fuck you" ; argentina : "ok here are your english keyboards plox" 704663;1402011406;mike_c;you need some tips on this? 704664;1402011417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2900001 BTC [-] 704665;1402011418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.00280702 = 0.3116 BTC [-] {2} 704666;1402011423;kakobrekla;sure ;) 704667;1402011432;mike_c;buy the dip! (unless it keeps going down) 704668;1402011438;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu does not carry 'model m' in violin case? 704669;1402011440;mircea_popescu;buy the trip! 704670;1402011441;*;kakobrekla notes 704671;1402011447;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, nope. 704672;1402011468;mircea_popescu;i enjoy seeing how the proles live now and again 704673;1402011483;asciilifeform;'how the other half' types. 704674;1402011496;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=350103.msg7137392#msg7137392 704675;1402011496;assbot;[Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? | Page 19 | Bitcointa.lk 704676;1402011513;mircea_popescu;o wow that still exists huh! 704677;1402011562;mircea_popescu;allow me to reciprocate : tory black 704678;1402011564;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/05/30/toriblack-31407/images/twistys-topcover.jpg 704679;1402011697;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo, why is your post gone ? did .lk delete it or what ?! 704680;1402011747;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I made it on old forum. My guess is there are syncing problems between the two. 704681;1402011754;mircea_popescu;ah 704682;1402011798;benkay;mdev what kind of dev do you do? 704683;1402011882;mircea_popescu;the friedcat post is uncharacteristically convincing actually. 704684;1402011903;mircea_popescu;also, fingers http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/05/31/keishagrey-31669/images/full/16.jpg 704685;1402011937;asciilifeform;'nicht fur gefingerpoken.' 704686;1402012023;mircea_popescu;pankkake: though it is definitively a weird idea << no argument there. 704687;1402012073;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, o nicht nicht, ganz fur den fingernstossen 704688;1402012091;asciilifeform;;;google gefingerpoken und mittengrabben 704689;1402012092;gribble;Blinkenlights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; “ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!” “Das ... - Loewen, Mike: ; Computer Humor: Just Watch the Pretty Lights - Astrodigital: 704690;1402012168;mircea_popescu;benkay: bitcoin "devs" are idiotically and self-destructively committed to this "no reuse" idea, ever since implementing the braindead wallet schema that creates new addrs for your change << it's not that bad of an idea. the problem is that they misrepresent it as a central point of protocol, when it's merely a marginal helper tool thing. sorta like people thinking all carpenter tables must also have a vase on them 704691;1402012187;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, you know the whole thing went in the logs coupla days back 704692;1402012212;*;asciilifeform looks 704693;1402012221;mircea_popescu;mdev: the public key argument thing, about it being exposed after the first transaction, not sure why that's an issue, RSA is based off handing out public keys, I know bitcoin uses ECDMA or whatever, but still if the public key can't be trusted << because cargo cult sekoority. 704694;1402012232;mircea_popescu;also because the bitcoinz use a vulnerable scheme. 704695;1402012271;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10609 @ 0.00086493 = 9.176 BTC [-] 704696;1402012282;asciilifeform;this is the thing that always puzzled me about the alt folks. if they're meant to be 'spares' for btc, where's the one using rsa? lattice? etc 704697;1402012286;asciilifeform;nowhere to be seen 704698;1402012297;mircea_popescu;well that'd talke thinkings 704699;1402012313;asciilifeform;what thinking. crack a fsckng book, cook. 704700;1402012320;asciilifeform;no brain required 704701;1402012332;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29991 @ 0.00086612 = 25.9758 BTC [+] {3} 704702;1402012340;mircea_popescu;sometimes i suspect you don't understand what thinking actually is. 704703;1402012350;Mats_cd03;lol 704704;1402012361;mircea_popescu;"what fucking, you just sit your ass on the cock and bob up and down" 704705;1402012375;asciilifeform;if i knew what thinking actually is, i'd be talking to me pet ai right now. 704706;1402012384;mircea_popescu;that's a point. 704707;1402012391;peterl;mdev: you need to pick a better font, it's PeterL, not Peter1 704708;1402012393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3199999 BTC [+] 704709;1402012396;mircea_popescu;but srsly, crack a book & cook, that;s it. 704710;1402012410;mircea_popescu;peterl, either that or autocomplete. 704711;1402012418;peterl;yeah, that works too 704712;1402012449;asciilifeform;thinking'd be, if i were to ask folks to cough up, say, a new pubkey algo with rigorous proof of hardness 704713;1402012483;mircea_popescu;pankkake: it's not necessarily weaker << it's in fact weak to very bad rng. it has in displayed this in the wild, on some machines for which rng = 9 704714;1402012504;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, you don't get to arbitrarily define what's thinking tho. 704715;1402012536;asciilifeform;sure. but everyone has some kind of mental picture for what they expect a normal person to be able to do - e.g. tie a knot 704716;1402012559;mircea_popescu;so ? 704717;1402012585;mircea_popescu;even if everyone had the same picture, what of it. 704718;1402012680;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/05/shrinkflation-in-usa.html << how very soviet huh. 704719;1402012681;assbot;SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: "Shrinkflation" in USA 704720;1402012785;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: a kind of 'soft' deindustrialization. << if that is soft i have no idea what is hard. and also, the people making milk in their back yard are being kept in check with regulation. 704721;1402012793;mircea_popescu;same with daycare, same for sure with soap. 704722;1402012806;mircea_popescu;a country where ordinary people obey the law is the worst sort of country to live in. 704723;1402012807;asciilifeform;had the 'honour' of seeing this alive. i sometimes buy liquid soap, and for a few years after '09, it was mostly pisswater 704724;1402012834;asciilifeform;then turned, surprisingly, into something more like normal soap (probably they found something cheap & viscosity-enhancing to add) 704725;1402012904;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu, chetty: can you comment? << yes i can comment. i carried a huge stack of bills inside, it's not that they allowed it, it's that they don't evenm know, cause they couldn't be bothered to find out. 704726;1402012926;mircea_popescu;i imagine they would prefer you don't take dollars out, however. not sure why you'd want to, but anyway. 704727;1402012945;mircea_popescu;and nobody's mugging anyone, that's for damned sure. i saw more muggings a day in new york than in a month of here. 704728;1402012947;asciilifeform;!up mdev 704729;1402012999;mircea_popescu;also in general, i find that what the resident expats say about BA is about as spot on as if they had never visited 704730;1402013029;mircea_popescu;(this dovetails nicely into my experience with mexico : everyone was like "omg, carry toilet paper!!". in reality, mexico bus stations look better, are cleanner and so forth than us airports) 704731;1402013058;*;asciilifeform remembers the traditional american image of ussr, formed largely with tales from expats circa 1917 704732;1402013120;asciilifeform;expats, as a rule, are folks who ate more than fair share of shit where they came from 704733;1402013123;mircea_popescu;well in point of fact you could get by pretty well on a suitcase full of jeans at some point 704734;1402013154;asciilifeform;(not necessarily though fault of their own) 704735;1402013201;mircea_popescu;eh, what's fault anyway. 704736;1402013271;mircea_popescu;by the way, was phinn ever back ? 704737;1402013284;mircea_popescu;;;note 704738;1402013284;gribble;Error: "note" is not a valid command. 704739;1402013303;mircea_popescu;;;notes 704740;1402013303;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, decimation, gaantr2, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx. 704741;1402013341;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/06/02/emilyaddison-30527/images/full/16.jpg i guess he misses out on the feet then 704742;1402013574;mircea_popescu;ok this is splendid http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hacks.html#item154 asciilifeform who wrote it ? 704743;1402013575;assbot;HAKMEM -- PROGRAMMING HACKS -- DRAFT, NOT YET PROOFED 704744;1402013597;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: bill gosper. same fellow who wrote 'hashlife' 704745;1402013599;mircea_popescu;o the hakmem nm\ 704746;1402013602;mircea_popescu;yaw 704747;1402013607;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html 704748;1402013609;asciilifeform;^ as seen here 704749;1402013622;asciilifeform;one of the golden age mit ai lab folks 704750;1402013666;mircea_popescu;154 has all the qualities of an excellent poem 704751;1402013724;asciilifeform;i heartily recommend the entire document, to any amateur maths types here. 704752;1402013796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.00380417 = 0.1826 BTC [+] {3} 704753;1402013806;mircea_popescu;yes, plus the rest of the hakmems 704754;1402013909;asciilifeform;see, for instance, no. 25: 704755;1402013911;asciilifeform;http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/random.html#item25 704756;1402013912;assbot;HAKMEM -- RANDOM NUMBERS -- DRAFT, NOT YET PROOFED 704757;1402013927;asciilifeform;'prng sucks' 704758;1402013941;asciilifeform;(circa 1972.) 704759;1402013969;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: hope there are no btc sniffing dogs << laugh, but i bet some bozo is working on ferreting out 'kulaks' through pheromonal sensing of one kind or another. fellow who walks around knowing he's loaded, probably can be smelled, in principle << women can definitely smell me. 704760;1402013979;asciilifeform;documented effect 704761;1402014084;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: EFF seems to suffer from the librarian view of technology, hard to tell if they are stooges or unaware. << eff is a large donation based org. it has the limitations and blind spots that flow from that. it's useful for what it's iuseful, it's not the pope of electronic freedom. juust a tool. 704762;1402014088;asciilifeform;Russell, Michael J. 'Human Olfactory Communication.' Nature, vol 260, pp.520-522 704763;1402014104;asciilifeform;^ the infamous 't-shirts' experiment 704764;1402014164;asciilifeform;efforts to synthetically exploit this effect, afaik, failed, and the field was taken over by snake oil men (as often happens) 704765;1402014212;mircea_popescu;reason is probably similar to why perfume can't replace shower. 704766;1402014231;mircea_popescu;you can drown the loser in my ballsack sweat, it still won't smell pleasant. 704767;1402014711;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 58 @ 0.0038 = 0.2204 BTC [-] 704768;1402014917;BingoBoingo;!up mdev 704769;1402014955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 31 @ 0.00379 = 0.1175 BTC [-] 704770;1402015258;BingoBoingo;%book 704771;1402015260;atcbot;12k@270 25k@269 8k@256 | 3k@150 50k@143 175k@142 704772;1402015273;BingoBoingo;%ticker 704773;1402015275;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 256 Last Price: 256 24h-Vol: 221k High: 256 Low: 140 VWAP: 213 704774;1402015346;BingoBoingo;%diff 704775;1402015347;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 155380.44 in 1983 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -78.28 704776;1402015748;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 704777;1402016236;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00086556 = 15.407 BTC [-] {4} 704778;1402016702;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: north koreans shouting ones and zeros into telephones have better uptime <<< yes well, there's a reason i've not seen three digits on a bill for years and years. 704779;1402016788;mircea_popescu;mike_c: warren's getting smacked << i really was hoping for more action ;/ 704780;1402016864;mircea_popescu;lol nice link ThickAsThieves . aurorACOIN Difficulty: 36 704781;1402016947;mircea_popescu;TekCoin Hashrate: 9.67 TH/s heh 704782;1402017037;BingoBoingo;%diff 704783;1402017038;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 155380.44 in 1983 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -78.28 704784;1402017054;mike_c;%tslb 704785;1402017055;atcbot;0 minutes and 56 seconds 704786;1402017056;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/06/03/sophiaknight-29890/images/full/16.jpg << anyone got any ideawhat's that in her armpit ? 704787;1402017110;asciilifeform;needle marks? 704788;1402017151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00086368 = 2.9365 BTC [-] 704789;1402017230;mircea_popescu;looks like either a horrible wax job or some sort of dermatological testing 704790;1402017278;mircea_popescu;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/12/teratoma/ 704791;1402017278;assbot;Tooth Fairy Refusing to Take Teeth From a Teratoma | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 704792;1402017280;BingoBoingo;Needs moar resolution 704793;1402017287;mircea_popescu; Local resident Brittany Friedly underwent surgery to remove a mass on her ovary. What was somewhat unique about this mass you might ask? It was a teratoma that contained hair and 7 teeth. 704794;1402017307;asciilifeform;'what's been seen, cannot be unseen' 704795;1402017334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.30932578 = 9.2798 BTC [+] {6} 704796;1402017347;BingoBoingo;'Wetware can have problems too' 704797;1402017380;mircea_popescu;well, at least we don't got no ovaries. 704798;1402017414;BingoBoingo;Yup. 704799;1402017456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32899998 = 1.316 BTC [+] 704800;1402017487;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/06/joint-commission-is-coming-hospital-plans-to-change-everything-for-one-day-and-revert-back-to-normal-operations-afterwards/ 704801;1402017487;assbot;Joint Commission is Coming: Hospital Plans to Change Everything for One Day and Revert Back to Normal Operations Afterwards | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 704802;1402017578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32899998 = 0.658 BTC [+] 704803;1402018015;BingoBoingo;Yadier Molina: http://deadspin.com/unlucky-norichika-aoki-gets-hit-in-head-with-throw-back-1586879817 704804;1402018016;assbot;Unlucky Norichika Aoki Gets Hit In Head With Throw Back To Mound 704805;1402018466;BingoBoingo;http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html 704806;1402018466;assbot;A Story About Magic' 704807;1402018493;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00086368 = 9.2414 BTC [-] 704808;1402018615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0029905 = 0.1525 BTC [+] 704809;1402018792;*;asciilifeform flips toggle to 'more magic' 704810;1402018804;asciilifeform;who alive remains, who doesn't know this tale 704811;1402018874;*;asciilifeform actually has to give a shit about ground potentials now that his box is connected to isolator transformer 704812;1402018973;*;asciilifeform looks to xformer, 'you're a loud little bugger, aintcha' xformer: bzzz me: could be worse xformer: BZZZzzz me: looks at neighbour's house, wonders what they did to dip the mains 704813;1402019056;BingoBoingo;Are they actually neighbors, or potekemin neighbors who professionally reside in that house? 704814;1402019068;*;asciilifeform didn't ask 704815;1402019083;mircea_popescu;just run everything off car batteries 704816;1402019103;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15822 @ 0.00086368 = 13.6651 BTC [-] 704817;1402019119;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: set up to do just this, when necessary 704818;1402019130;mircea_popescu;actually : is solar power a loit better than mains for this ? 704819;1402019139;mircea_popescu;i'd expect it's maybe noisier but definitely not harmonic 704820;1402019166;BingoBoingo;There's more equiptment tuned for these applications when using solar than mains, at least in the consumer/prosumer market 704821;1402019170;asciilifeform;you can get 'atx'-sized power supplies that run off straight 12v rail 704822;1402019189;asciilifeform;bypass the usual inverter found on solar rigs. use solar, woman on bike, whichever 704823;1402019199;asciilifeform;weak point, as always - the battery 704824;1402019220;asciilifeform;lead-acid cell is good for half a dozen 'deep cycles' then it goes to the dump. 704825;1402019225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32899998 = 0.658 BTC [+] 704826;1402019232;*;BingoBoingo wonders in how many years Tesla vehicles will be routinely relieved of their batteries. 704827;1402019249;asciilifeform;they use lithium rechargeables, afaik 704828;1402019255;asciilifeform;so, about the same life as 'macbook' 704829;1402019333;BingoBoingo;Recently replaced the laptop battery after 3 years. Lithium ion seems more influenced by time decay that cycles, to the extent I have noticed so far 704830;1402019349;asciilifeform;rots on shelf. esp. when discharged. 704831;1402019383;asciilifeform;crystal growth. 704832;1402019396;BingoBoingo;Same happens when totally charged. 704833;1402019442;asciilifeform;Li. ion -> ~70% of design capacity after 2 yrs. typical. 704834;1402019459;asciilifeform;(optimistic) 704835;1402019486;BingoBoingo;This particular battery went from 5 hours charge to 5 minutes charge over three years. Breaking point on replacing it was it could no longer sustain a whole cigarette's worth of time away from the cord. 704836;1402019491;asciilifeform;it's a kind of scam. 'showroom optimization', like glossy lcd panels. 704837;1402019521;asciilifeform;new gizmo has 2x the life vs. varient with, say, nickel metal hydride cell 704838;1402019525;asciilifeform;but dies on schedule. 704839;1402019561;BingoBoingo;Yeah, I'd prefer a computer with less speed and a 20 year RTG for power, no recharging necessary. 704840;1402019695;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-M#mediaviewer/File:Soviet_RTG.jpg 704841;1402019695;assbot;Beta-M - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 704842;1402019705;asciilifeform;^ electrical output: ~10W. thermal: ~200 704843;1402019713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00086708 = 5.4557 BTC [+] 704844;1402019729;asciilifeform;mass: ~600kg 704845;1402019760;asciilifeform;(why? peltier element has piss-poor work coefficient) 704846;1402019810;BingoBoingo;Quite a bit of computer can fit into 10 watts nao... 704847;1402019851;*;asciilifeform pictures 'raspberry' on a truck with 'beta-m' 704848;1402019896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 475 @ 0.00022291 = 0.1059 BTC [-] {3} 704849;1402020098;*;BingoBoingo was thinking more a Forth chip with Beta-M 704850;1402020129;BingoBoingo;"Elephant Pacemaker" if anyone asks its purpose... 704851;1402020130;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: probably one flying above your head as we speak. 704852;1402020143;asciilifeform;('molnija orbit') 704853;1402020159;asciilifeform;prob. 'REFAL' rather than forth, though 704854;1402020187;BingoBoingo;Difference isn't that big... 704855;1402020228;*;asciilifeform blows dust off Turchin's 'the algorithmic language Refal.' 704856;1402020331;asciilifeform;http://spsc.googlecode.com/files/Turchin.-The.Language.REFAL.-.The.Theory.of.Compilation.and.Metasystem.Analysis.%281980%29.djvu 704857;1402020335;asciilifeform;^ for english folks 704858;1402020384;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00086354 = 5.5267 BTC [-] {2} 704859;1402020567;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25227 @ 0.00086291 = 21.7686 BTC [-] {2} 704860;1402021095;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: gedankenexperiment: 704861;1402021133;asciilifeform;Li. primary 'coin' cell, non-chargeable. mass: ~6g. optimal draw < 1mA. 704862;1402021150;asciilifeform;;;calc 6 * (10 / 0.001) 704863;1402021151;gribble;60000 704864;1402021156;asciilifeform;60kg 704865;1402021167;asciilifeform;suitcase, 10,000 watch batteries 704866;1402021186;asciilifeform;a few years of 10W. 704867;1402021192;asciilifeform;cost: perhaps $10k. 704868;1402021201;asciilifeform;considerably cheaper than soviet rtg 704869;1402021209;asciilifeform;and won't cook yer balls, unless you wet it. 704870;1402021254;BingoBoingo;That is some useful math. The lithium coin cells, can also generally survive 10+ years in a constant low drain environment... 704871;1402021260;asciilifeform;(reduction to practice left as exercise for alert reader.) 704872;1402021294;asciilifeform;don't leave suitcase out in the frost. 704873;1402021311;asciilifeform;or the rain. 704874;1402021339;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 704875;1402021344;Vexual;hey 704876;1402021360;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.0029955 = 0.4703 BTC [+] 704877;1402021367;BingoBoingo;!up mthreat 704878;1402021380;BingoBoingo;Now... With a truck of coin cells... 704879;1402021445;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/magicmolly/status/474709212493512705 704880;1402021447;assbot;Disappointing sentences of Wikipedia: "Piranhas are basically like regular fish with large teeth." 704881;1402021801;TheNewDeal;Disappointing sentences of Wikipedia: the entirety 704882;1402021858;asciilifeform;laugh if you will, but i still use 'great soviet encyclopaedia' on occasion. (online ver.) 704883;1402021882;asciilifeform;for instance, nowhere else do you find a concise summary of CVT (see discussion from a few days ago) 704884;1402021898;TheNewDeal;I laughed, but only because you prefaced with "laugh if you will" 704885;1402021933;TheNewDeal;continuously variable transmission? 704886;1402021941;asciilifeform;constant voltage transformer 704887;1402021967;asciilifeform;(electrical gizmo supposedly unnecessary in the civilized world) 704888;1402021979;Vexual;either will make my brain hurt 704889;1402021981;TheNewDeal;I thought the whole point of a transformer was to change voltage? 704890;1402022025;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2014#699606 704891;1402022025;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 704892;1402022092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32899998 BTC [+] 704893;1402022095;TheNewDeal;speaking of loud transformers, I was sitting at a stoplight the other day under a bunch of high voltage lines, enjoying the buzz that filled the air around me 704894;1402022153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.002998 = 0.1799 BTC [+] {2} 704895;1402022278;TheNewDeal;anyone had troubles with bitcoinwisdom's graphs displaying in chrome? I tried going to chrome://conflicts but nothing was listed 704896;1402022306;TheNewDeal;tried clearing my cookies, no success 704897;1402022336;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00086141 = 6.5036 BTC [-] {2} 704898;1402022433;mthreat;TheNewDeal: no problems here 704899;1402022458;thestringpuller;new people 704900;1402022559;thestringpuller;BingoBoingo: yo 704901;1402022600;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: Hey 704902;1402022622;TheNewDeal;I know, it's more of a localized issue 704903;1402022702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-] 704904;1402023071;TheNewDeal;;;calc 306431/2016 704905;1402023071;gribble;151.999503968 704906;1402023105;TheNewDeal;when did the first difficult change occur? block 2017? 704907;1402023128;TheNewDeal;errr I guess it was technically 1 for a while 704908;1402023128;TheNewDeal;but 704909;1402023144;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 704910;1402023146;gribble;Current Blocks: 304448 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1983 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 4 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13040152907.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.91818 704911;1402023161;TheNewDeal;why is 306341 / 2016 not a whole number? 704912;1402023173;TheNewDeal;431* 704913;1402023250;thestringpuller;!up Vexual 704914;1402023311;TheNewDeal;doesn't the difficulty change every 2016 blocks? 704915;1402023325;Vexual;same reason 306341 / 2 isnt a whole number 704916;1402023349;TheNewDeal;regardless, why isn't the next difficulty change a product of 2016 704917;1402023495;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0029956 = 0.5991 BTC [-] 704918;1402023619;Vexual;lets wait and see shall we 704919;1402023744;thestringpuller;;;calc 306430 / 2016 704920;1402023744;gribble;151.999007937 704921;1402023750;thestringpuller;;;calc 306432 / 2016 704922;1402023751;gribble;152 704923;1402023754;thestringpuller;there you go :P 704924;1402023760;thestringpuller;stop being pedantic 704925;1402023905;mircea_popescu;fence error 704926;1402023912;mircea_popescu;1st block is 0 ? 704927;1402024009;TheNewDeal;is that an answer? 704928;1402024021;mircea_popescu;benkay: petty. << i think it makes it quite clear who works for whom. 704929;1402024022;Vexual;its a question? 704930;1402024032;TheNewDeal;ahhh it must be 704931;1402024043;Vexual;must it 704932;1402024047;TheNewDeal;arithmetic... 704933;1402024122;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: no wait, tanks. it was tanks. << wanks of tanks ? 704934;1402024240;mircea_popescu;mdev: makes it hard to sell them, considering their increased value over time << this is the point where it stfus and goes read the log for the rest of 2014. 704935;1402024414;TheNewDeal;I'm kind of angry that the block reward halving doesn't occur on a multiple of 2016 704936;1402024593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.30285714 = 2.12 BTC [+] {2} 704937;1402025081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 181 @ 0.0029797 = 0.5393 BTC [-] {2} 704938;1402025097;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 704939;1402025752;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8383 @ 0.00086263 = 7.2314 BTC [+] 704940;1402026062;BingoBoingo;%book 704941;1402026063;atcbot;12k@270 25k@269 8k@256 | 3k@150 50k@143 175k@142 704942;1402026326;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 704943;1402026505;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHdipo8R6IU 704944;1402026505;assbot;B.U.G. Mafia - Romaneste (Videoclip) - YouTube 704945;1402026667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00086179 = 6.8943 BTC [-] 704946;1402026823;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbfKxNjzxE0 704947;1402026824;assbot;Johnnie Johnson ~ Creek Mud - YouTube 704948;1402026930;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 704949;1402027132;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GecUBSccqqg 704950;1402027132;assbot;Katy Perry sings Niggas in Paris (Cover) Live Lounge - YouTube 704951;1402027175;TheNewDeal;%last_block 704952;1402027188;Vexual;%diff 704953;1402027188;xmj;Good Morning. 704954;1402027190;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 164505.44 in 1975 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -77.00 704955;1402027444;TheNewDeal;can someone help me decipher this image http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth-10k.png 704956;1402027493;Vexual;lol indeed 704957;1402027513;Vexual;how do you want it? 704958;1402027513;Vexual;} 704959;1402027523;TheNewDeal;how does one calculate a %/day of the network 704960;1402027560;Vexual;from a picture? 704961;1402027596;TheNewDeal;give me a sample calculation, with some generic variables 704962;1402027613;TheNewDeal;like hashrateRightnow/hashrate24hrsago? 704963;1402027623;Vexual;tends to 1 704964;1402027669;Vexual;the other way is zero 704965;1402027723;TheNewDeal;lets say we have a 1 %/day growth rate over a period of 13 days 704966;1402027730;Vexual;the graph usually comes later,what u wanna do? 704967;1402027732;TheNewDeal;how much has the network grown 704968;1402027759;TheNewDeal;1.01^13? 704969;1402027880;TheNewDeal;I'm looking at difficulty predictions and want to know what this graph can tell me 704970;1402027904;Vexual;why? 704971;1402027912;TheNewDeal;bitbet of course 704972;1402027926;Vexual;link to bet? 704973;1402027957;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/783/bitcoin-incremental-difficulty-to-increase-by-3b-or/ 704974;1402027957;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 0.49 B (39%) on Yes, 0.77 B (61%) on No | closing in 3 months 6 days | weight: 56`015 (100`000 to 6`000) 704975;1402027964;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/713/btc-network-hashrate-will-exceed-1-exahash-s-before/ 704976;1402027964;assbot;BitBet - BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015 :: 2.28 B (35%) on Yes, 4.29 B (65%) on No | closing in 5 months 4 weeks | weight: 57`534 (100`000 to 5`000) 704977;1402027971;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/ 704978;1402027971;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 112.59 B (85%) on Yes, 19.55 B (15%) on No | closing in 1 week 19 hours | weight: 4`539 (100`000 to 1) 704979;1402027978;TheNewDeal;there's too many 704980;1402028000;TheNewDeal;let's pick the closest to resolution, the last one 704981;1402028022;Vexual;one off the top ok 704982;1402028046;TheNewDeal;mmkay 704983;1402028087;Vexual;continue 704984;1402028144;TheNewDeal;if the network hovers at let's say, 1.1 %/day growth, what will be the hash rate on October 1st 704985;1402028253;Vexual;syntax error 704986;1402028269;Vexual;repeat the question 704987;1402028312;TheNewDeal;if the network growth rate is 1.1%, how long will it take to find 2016 blocks? 704988;1402028324;TheNewDeal;1.1%/day 704989;1402028325;Vexual;thats wronger 704990;1402028410;TheNewDeal;if the hashrate over the last 512 blocks averages 87,961,249 GH/s, what will be the hashrate tomorrow, assuming the growth rate was equal to that of the last 14-day period 704991;1402028436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00086126 = 17.0099 BTC [-] {2} 704992;1402028506;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLhN__oEHaw 704993;1402028507;assbot;Iggy Pop - The Passenger - YouTube 704994;1402028542;TheNewDeal;are you a bot? 704995;1402028741;TheNewDeal;;;gettrust assbot Vexual 704996;1402028741;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never 704997;1402028966;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 704998;1402028979;Vexual;ty 704999;1402029229;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00086116 = 9.5589 BTC [-] {2} 705000;1402029352;TheNewDeal;!down Vexual 705001;1402029358;TheNewDeal;!up Vexual 705002;1402029419;TheNewDeal;BingoBoingo, can you explain a hashrate graph? 705003;1402029484;BingoBoingo;Not well 705004;1402029589;TheNewDeal;better than vexual? 705005;1402029688;Vexual;i told u wait and see cock knocker 705006;1402029821;BingoBoingo;WHo knows? 705007;1402029901;Vexual;they eyes have it 705008;1402029966;TheNewDeal;wait and see what? 705009;1402029981;Vexual;bet or don't 705010;1402029989;TheNewDeal;I have already bet 705011;1402030014;TheNewDeal;I would like to have an educated bet, backed with some numbers, instead of going with a gut feeling 705012;1402030088;BingoBoingo;Well, the bastile day bet is looking increasingly like diff will make it, but I bet no a while a go 705013;1402030107;TheNewDeal;i've got about 5.5 riding on yes 705014;1402030158;TheNewDeal;i'm wondering why someone laid down 6 on No, betting about a day apart. They lost 13% of the timeweight they would have had if they would have wagered it all at once 705015;1402030227;Vexual;prolly a human 705016;1402030326;TheNewDeal;I'm wondering what made them conclude "I should bet on No", other than the fact that the payout was 2:1 705017;1402030398;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8 705018;1402030398;assbot;"Empire State of Mind" JAY Z | Alicia Keys [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube 705019;1402030481;TheNewDeal;I'm trying to figure out what type of growth rates are required for 12 and 13 day difficulty changes. I can't do it 705020;1402030495;Vexual;work out what betting on yes pays 705021;1402030519;Vexual;or survey me 705022;1402030545;TheNewDeal;;;calc (1.5999*41+4*33)/2396 705023;1402030545;gribble;0.0824690734558 705024;1402030551;BingoBoingo;Well, payout was much better when I put one down on No 705025;1402030567;TheNewDeal;;;calc (1.5999*41+4*33)/2396*19.55 705026;1402030568;gribble;1.61227038606 705027;1402030575;TheNewDeal;that's my take, minus the fees 705028;1402030651;TheNewDeal;when I was betting, it was about a 12% (constant) difficulty increase that would make it happen 705029;1402030683;TheNewDeal;but the last difficulty change was going to be questionable 705030;1402030800;Vexual;howmany bitbets have paid yes? 705031;1402030805;TheNewDeal;I also dropped 3.5 on http://bitbet.us/bet/727/block-315k-mined-on-or-before-july-28th/ 705032;1402030805;assbot;BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 25`709 (100`000 to 5`000) 705033;1402030826;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-tapeout-titan-complete/ 705034;1402031015;TheNewDeal;not concerned about script, only betting BTC 705035;1402031015;TheNewDeal;:D 705036;1402031015;TheNewDeal;-i +y 705037;1402031016;TheNewDeal;the network would have to pump out blocks like 15% faster over the next 10,000 for that block 315k to be yes 705038;1402031016;Vexual;one million corea! 705039;1402031242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21617 @ 0.00086233 = 18.641 BTC [+] {2} 705040;1402031669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00086284 = 8.3695 BTC [+] 705041;1402031852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.0240001 = 0.456 BTC [-] {2} 705042;1402032157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00379 = 0.1137 BTC [-] 705043;1402033011;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00086096 = 5.424 BTC [-] {2} 705044;1402033743;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0008607 = 2.0657 BTC [-] 705045;1402035146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00086043 = 20.7364 BTC [-] {3} 705046;1402035451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.072 = 0.576 BTC [-] 705047;1402036122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0711 = 0.1422 BTC [-] {2} 705048;1402038745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0028802 = 0.288 BTC [-] 705049;1402038806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0240001 = 0.24 BTC [-] 705050;1402038867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.024 = 0.216 BTC [-] {2} 705051;1402039050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [MS] 233 @ 0.00052801 = 0.123 BTC [-] {2} 705052;1402039355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0028003 = 0.2716 BTC [-] 705053;1402039416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0237 = 0.1896 BTC [-] {2} 705054;1402039538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 36 @ 0.02991105 = 1.0768 BTC [+] {3} 705055;1402039599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.02333336 = 0.14 BTC [-] {2} 705056;1402039660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.02991094 = 0.2692 BTC [-] {2} 705057;1402040576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0211888 = 0.1059 BTC [-] {2} 705058;1402041002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07299997 = 0.511 BTC [+] 705059;1402041063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.27770001 = 0.8331 BTC [-] {2} 705060;1402041124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07299977 = 0.511 BTC [-] 705061;1402041185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.27157522 = 2.4442 BTC [-] {5} 705062;1402041429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 170 @ 0.00272565 = 0.4634 BTC [-] {5} 705063;1402041551;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.00271382 = 0.5265 BTC [-] {3} 705064;1402044235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16413 @ 0.00086118 = 14.1345 BTC [+] 705065;1402044296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.26500006 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2} 705066;1402044357;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.263213 = 0.5264 BTC [-] 705067;1402044418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2612 = 0.5224 BTC [-] 705068;1402044479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2612002 BTC [+] 705069;1402045089;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00271 = 0.2602 BTC [-] {3} 705070;1402045090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2612 BTC [-] 705071;1402045272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2612 BTC [-] 705072;1402045760;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67150 @ 0.0008602 = 57.7624 BTC [-] {5} 705073;1402045882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00085919 = 2.4057 BTC [-] {2} 705074;1402045943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2569 @ 0.00085873 = 2.2061 BTC [-] 705075;1402046187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07299997 = 0.146 BTC [+] 705076;1402046858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02991111 = 0.5982 BTC [+] 705077;1402047836;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29890235 = 1.1956 BTC [+] {2} 705078;1402048386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2996998 = 0.5994 BTC [+] 705079;1402048387;FabianB;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#702546 <-- everybody stop talking :) 705080;1402048387;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 705081;1402048429;punkman;http://www.salon.com/2014/06/03/the_day_i_left_my_son_in_the_car/ << if you you let your kids grow up in murica, you are endangering them and I'm gonna report you to the international court of bad parenting 705082;1402048430;assbot;The day I left my son in the car - Salon.com 705083;1402048446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2996998 BTC [+] 705084;1402048507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2996998 BTC [+] 705085;1402048629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07100021 = 1.42 BTC [-] {2} 705086;1402048873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+] 705087;1402048995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [+] 705088;1402049117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.304 BTC [+] 705089;1402049239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.07299968 = 1.533 BTC [+] {2} 705090;1402049300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07306328 = 0.4384 BTC [+] {3} 705091;1402049361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14882 @ 0.00086138 = 12.8191 BTC [+] {2} 705092;1402049361;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07318999 = 0.3659 BTC [+] 705093;1402049483;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30131999 = 1.5066 BTC [-] {3} 705094;1402049544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29607554 = 0.8882 BTC [-] {2} 705095;1402049666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28015005 = 0.5603 BTC [-] {2} 705096;1402050032;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00086211 = 15.2162 BTC [+] {2} 705097;1402050337;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28010005 = 1.1204 BTC [-] {2} 705098;1402050398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2801001 = 0.5602 BTC [+] 705099;1402050764;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10228 @ 0.00086055 = 8.8017 BTC [-] 705100;1402050825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0243942 = 0.122 BTC [-] 705101;1402050826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0213693 = 0.1068 BTC [+] 705102;1402050877;pankkake;http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/4/5780644/harvard-book-is-bound-in-human-skin-tests-confirm 705103;1402050878;assbot;Harvard confirms century-old book is covered in human skin | The Verge 705104;1402051338;pankkake;!up mdev 705105;1402051355;pankkake;!up mdev 705106;1402051362;mdev;<3 thanks man 705107;1402051377;kakobrekla;did you register for the world of tanks mdev' 705108;1402051489;mdev;haven't yet no 705109;1402051532;kakobrekla;the best time to do it is today 705110;1402051542;punkman;*yesterday 705111;1402051552;kakobrekla;yeah but we are out of time machines 705112;1402051601;punkman;I have a spare one, only 2 BTC and free shipping 705113;1402051641;kakobrekla;thats a steal 705114;1402052228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [+] 705115;1402052531;mdev;be on the lookout for that promo site scammer 705116;1402052550;mdev;doubt he'd be able to do much in here, but he's been quite active in other cryptocoin chans i'm in 705117;1402052562;mdev;he may try and make nice nice to get voice then drop his link 705118;1402052589;fluffypony;promo site scammer? 705119;1402052642;mdev;he links to some article "Making money by bitcoin arbitrage" 705120;1402052654;mdev;that wants you to send his site coins or something to try and get over on exchanges 705121;1402052798;kakobrekla;yeah well this chan is prolly the last one that would need a warning :) 705122;1402052808;fluffypony;lol 705123;1402052910;mdev;:) yeah I don't know, spammers can be pretty crafty he's been banned from #bitcoin quite a bit, and keeps showing back up 705124;1402052936;mdev;you guys have this channel pretty locked down though 705125;1402054119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00086279 = 7.722 BTC [+] 705126;1402054302;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2801 BTC [-] 705127;1402054642;kakobrekla;!up mdev 705128;1402054648;kakobrekla;so anyway what kind of dev are you 705129;1402054654;kakobrekla;dammit assbot 705130;1402054693;fluffypony;hah 705131;1402054699;fluffypony;kakobrekla thwarted by his own bot 705132;1402054730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00085887 = 19.4534 BTC [-] {4} 705133;1402054738;kakobrekla;!down fluffypony 705134;1402054743;kakobrekla;:p 705135;1402054747;kakobrekla;!up mdev 705136;1402054747;fluffypony;lol 705137;1402054761;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/DigkZGS.gif 705138;1402054763;fluffypony;that's awesome 705139;1402054778;mdev;thanks, i'm a freelance dev, plan on working on my own company stuff eventually, I do mostly web projects these days 705140;1402054822;mdev;lot of mobile projects out there too 705141;1402054885;mdev;anyway gotta get ready, is my SO's birthday today, if i'm not allowed to idle in here I won't be upset if you end up kicking 705142;1402054899;mdev;i'll look into registering later so won't be a burden on you guys anyway with the upping stuff 705143;1402054906;fluffypony;you're allowed to idle here 705144;1402054922;mdev;great :) 705145;1402054939;fluffypony;to be voiced you typically have to be in the WoT and in assbot's L1 or L2 trust, or be voiced by someone else temporarily 705146;1402055037;pankkake;so the first step is to register with gribble http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation 705147;1402055037;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 705148;1402055278;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 593 @ 0.0001857 = 0.1101 BTC [+] {3} 705149;1402055522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1055 @ 0.00019988 = 0.2109 BTC [+] {4} 705150;1402055949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] 705151;1402056129;pankkake;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/612530753/gitchain?ref=discovery this makes no sense whatsoever 705152;1402056130;assbot;Gitchain by Yurii Rashkovskii — Kickstarter 705153;1402056191;fluffypony;we already ragged on him a while back 705154;1402056216;pankkake;oh… I guess I need to RTFL 705155;1402056267;pankkake;!uup Diablo-D3 705156;1402056269;pankkake;!up Diablo-D3 705157;1402056278;pankkake;;;gettrust assbot Diablo-D3 705158;1402056278;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Diablo-D3: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Diablo-D3 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Diablo-D3 | Rated since: Mon Apr 25 13:54:20 2011 705159;1402056298;Diablo-D3;git is already distributed and cant go down 705160;1402056302;Diablo-D3;I dont get what hes trying to solve 705161;1402056435;pankkake;the only thing could be private repositories, though there already are client-side encryption projects 705162;1402056480;pankkake;but I fail to see a compelling reason to use it even then 705163;1402056488;Diablo-D3;I mean, git even lets me email patches 705164;1402056493;Diablo-D3;like, right from git or something like that 705165;1402056506;Diablo-D3;Ive never had to do that because GASP I CAN HOST MY OWN REPO 705166;1402056546;pankkake;too many people confusing git and github :( 705167;1402056663;xmj;github clone origin master 705168;1402056742;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0213697 = 0.2351 BTC [+] 705169;1402056864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02129973 = 0.1704 BTC [-] {3} 705170;1402057084;pankkake;http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/idea:_git_push_requests/ now this is a good idea 705171;1402057084;assbot;idea: git push requests 705172;1402057091;pankkake;!up darlidada 705173;1402057102;pankkake;!up mdev 705174;1402057144;fluffypony;pankkake: but come now, EVERYTHING must be rewritten to use blockchain technology 705175;1402057153;fluffypony;just wait till I have my Kickstarter for BitIRC 705176;1402057160;fluffypony;IRC meets blockchain technology 705177;1402057169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [+] 705178;1402057243;pankkake;what's more unfortunate, is that things where it is actually useful, like domain names and certificates… no one cares 705179;1402057260;fluffypony;yep 705180;1402057291;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0212955 = 0.1491 BTC [-] {3} 705181;1402057905;ThickAsThieves;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/13775/1-problem-bitcoin-will-solve-2015/ 705182;1402057905;assbot;The #1 Problem Bitcoin Will Solve by 2015 – Bitcoin Magazine 705183;1402057912;ThickAsThieves;~ Ver 705184;1402057914;ThickAsThieves;“By the end of 2015 I hope that Bitcoin will enable people to be able to transact with other individuals across the planet, without requiring permission from a bank or government.” 705185;1402057925;ThickAsThieves;enable people to be able 705186;1402057929;ThickAsThieves;good stuff 705187;1402057940;mircea_popescu;yaok. 705188;1402057945;ThickAsThieves;Jon Matonis – “The number one problem that I hope Bitcoin will solve by the end of 2015 is the ability to provide a realistic and viable alternative to central bank issued currencies.” 705189;1402057955;mircea_popescu;about the missing mpex reports : s.nsa will be published today. s.mpex will be published next month. 705190;1402057992;mircea_popescu; what's more unfortunate, is that things where it is actually useful, like domain names and certificates no one cares << this IS sad. 705191;1402058009;mircea_popescu;i was kinda having high hopes for namecoin. then it died. then i was having high hopes again. then it seems it died #2 ? 705192;1402058108;pankkake;there are things slowly happening. opennic now serves .bit, there are a few services… 705193;1402058214;mircea_popescu;hm. maybe it's time to stfu and actually support it a little. 705194;1402058237;mircea_popescu;pankkake can you be bothered to be my nmc broker or have you had it with brokering ? 705195;1402058289;pankkake;I can, I have a namecoin node already 705196;1402058320;pankkake;though it's on my datacenter server, so for large amounts I'll have to change 705197;1402058323;mircea_popescu;what's it trade at these days ? (and where even ?) 705198;1402058333;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic, you cover nmc ? 705199;1402058339;pankkake;yes 705200;1402058348;pankkake;I actually bought my last NMC there, with my ATC sales 705201;1402058352;mircea_popescu;a sweet. 705202;1402058366;mircea_popescu;ima add it to fmpif then. ping BingoBoingo 705203;1402058403;pankkake;using namecoind is horrible. though I haven't tried the Qt one 705204;1402058416;mircea_popescu;why;s it horrible ? 705205;1402058419;pankkake;it's missing many useful commands, and is slow 705206;1402058431;mircea_popescu;yeah well. 705207;1402058450;pankkake;makes it hard to track what's happening 705208;1402058481;mircea_popescu;remind me, what are the chain characteristics ? sha256 ? how many per block, how frequent blocks ? 705209;1402058550;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: as well as updated windows binaries, Altcoin could certainly use coin control features. there's the possibility of using 0.9 (perhaps disable payment protocol as a statement), or merge the bitcoin-omg 0.8 patches (probably less work) 705210;1402058558;pankkake;sha256, and everything the same as Bitcoin 705211;1402058568;pankkake;merge-mined 705212;1402058615;pankkake;http://explorer.namecoin.info/ 705213;1402058615;assbot;Namecoin block explorer 705214;1402058621;mircea_popescu;aha 705215;1402058650;mircea_popescu;i subscribe to the coin control features, but definitely minus the payment protocol bullshit. 705216;1402058659;mircea_popescu;and patches should be merged one by one if at all. 705217;1402058667;pankkake;http://explorer.namecoin.info/n/42828 some fun stuff! 705218;1402058667;assbot;Namecoin block explorer 705219;1402058686;mircea_popescu;pankkake, and how do the costs to reg a domain work at all ? is it a fixed fee ? 705220;1402058689;pankkake;0.9 changed many file locations, the build system, etc. so it's pretty much all or nothing 705221;1402058705;pankkake;I think it's 0.01 NMC, then the updates are usually free 705222;1402058706;mircea_popescu;pankkake, then its nothing. 705223;1402058730;mircea_popescu;anyway, what happens to the 1 ncent ? lost for all time ? 705224;1402058793;dub;paid to miners would be sensible neh? 705225;1402058793;pankkake;I think they are, it created some controversy 705226;1402058803;pankkake;I mean they are destroyed 705227;1402058806;pankkake;https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/blob/master/DESIGN-namecoin.md 705228;1402058807;assbot;namecoin/DESIGN-namecoin.md at master vinced/namecoin GitHub 705229;1402058816;mircea_popescu;;;later tell TheNewDeal if the network hovers at let's say, 1.1 %/day growth, what will be the hash rate on October 1st << what's wrong with 1.0011^x like sane people ? 705230;1402058817;gribble;The operation succeeded. 705231;1402058832;mircea_popescu;pankkake, splendid seriously. send the devs my compliments. 705232;1402058858;dub;there are devs? 705233;1402058863;mircea_popescu;pretty much the only demurage scheme that makes any sense. 705234;1402058875;mircea_popescu;dub, yeah i been sitting here trying to remember who was doing it 705235;1402058877;mircea_popescu;who's doing it ? 705236;1402058888;dub;nobody was last I looked 705237;1402058897;pankkake;I don't think the fee system is considered fixed for now. it is extremely cheap to register something right now 705238;1402058905;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: are you a bot? <<< ahahaha epic. was waiting for it :D 705239;1402058957;pankkake;https://github.com/namecoinq/namecoinq https://github.com/namecoin-qt/namecoin-qt had some activity 705240;1402058957;assbot;namecoinq/namecoinq GitHub 705241;1402058958;assbot;namecoin-qt/namecoin-qt GitHub 705242;1402059038;dub;putting your name to this thing is potentially worse than any other coin imo 705243;1402059052;mircea_popescu;mdev: he may try and make nice nice to get voice then drop his link << so what if he does lol. bitcoin is backed by lulz. 705244;1402059058;mircea_popescu;dub why ? 705245;1402059072;dub;which might explain a dev-dearth 705246;1402059105;dub;it solves some big problems but creates others 705247;1402059106;pankkake;because the media will make it as childporncoin or something? 705248;1402059128;mircea_popescu;dub can you be like you know, explicit ? 705249;1402059146;mircea_popescu;fucking mpex solves some big problems and creates others. 705250;1402059153;mircea_popescu;sex solves some big problems and creates othersw. 705251;1402059165;dub;yes, and as soon an grandma can get to .bit and finds mr hands at wallmart.bit everyone involved is going to court then gitmo 705252;1402059192;dub;the market wants to buy control 705253;1402059201;mircea_popescu;yeah, that is so very much my concern, that it'll rape the us 705254;1402059222;mircea_popescu;i live to make sure the us won't be disrupted dontchaknow. 705255;1402059237;jurov;302 goatse.bit 705256;1402059256;dub;not everyone is a what was it? cryptojihadist? 705257;1402059262;mircea_popescu;yes, but i am. 705258;1402059285;mircea_popescu;and once i am, it's cool to be, and once it's cool to be everyone has no further options in the matter. 705259;1402059304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29 = 2.03 BTC [+] 705260;1402059313;mircea_popescu;because everyone is not a cool jihadist or what was it. 705261;1402059326;dub;hey I'm all for it but good luck 705262;1402059346;pankkake;hey, not everyone can resist the 72 virgins 705263;1402059348;mircea_popescu;same to yogramma :D 705264;1402059379;mircea_popescu;;;google mr hands 705265;1402059380;gribble;Enumclaw horse sex case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mr. Hands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mr. Hands (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 705266;1402059406;dub;tl;dr dude gets fucked by horse on cam and dies 705267;1402059435;Mats_cd03;i bet he got off first 705268;1402059443;dub;(you've been on the internet right?) 705269;1402059517;mircea_popescu;dub, i actually had missed that one. apparently my internet use a decade ago was not sufficiently close to matters of interes tfor the gay community. 705270;1402059590;dub;the point is you can't really decouple branding from ownership 705271;1402059612;mircea_popescu;the other point being that customers can have any car color they want as long as it's black. 705272;1402059616;dub;DNS needs oversight 705273;1402059627;mircea_popescu;not in that sense. 705274;1402059670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5989 @ 0.0008624 = 5.1649 BTC [+] 705275;1402059677;mircea_popescu;the fact that organised scammers can currently steal domain names is the most important vector of attack reducing the credibility of the dns system 705276;1402059688;mircea_popescu;if that's done away with, dns may even survive as a going concern 705277;1402059700;dub;they can't steal them though 705278;1402059705;dub;they can hijack at best 705279;1402059716;mircea_popescu;you don't take my meaning. 705280;1402059757;mircea_popescu;http://lawvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/20110714-e1310673680403.jpg 705281;1402059759;dub;I think the most concerning vector of attack is the fucking NSA 705282;1402059769;mircea_popescu;against the dns ? nah. the fbi. 705283;1402059776;dub;and, equally, corporate america 705284;1402059795;mircea_popescu;arrest warrant in rem, seriously ? gtfo. 705285;1402059815;mircea_popescu;if i ever turn to a life of crime and merry robbery, i'ma leave the victims arrest warrants in rem too 705286;1402059821;mircea_popescu;"hey sir, your watch is under arrest" 705287;1402059971;mircea_popescu;"As there was no law against humanely fucking one horse, the prosecutors could only charge Tait with trespassing." 705288;1402059977;mircea_popescu;ok that's pretty good. 705289;1402060007;mircea_popescu;"The police tracked down the rural Enumclaw-area farm, which was known in zoophile Internet chat rooms as a destination for people who want to have sex with livestock, and seized hundreds of hours of videotapes of men engaging in receptive anal sex with horses. One of the videotapes featured Kenneth Pinyan shortly before he died July 2" 705290;1402060013;mircea_popescu;dude srsly ? they actually can do that ? 705291;1402060051;dub;sieze your gay horse porn? why not 705292;1402060094;xmj;'receptive anal sex' 705293;1402060112;mircea_popescu;no no 705294;1402060117;mircea_popescu;dudes can actually take a horse ?! 705295;1402060119;los_pantalones;the sphincter is a muscle, it can be trained 705296;1402060123;dub;the horse is like 'meh, any port in a storm' 705297;1402060128;TomServo;lol 705298;1402060139;pankkake;yes, see goatse 705299;1402060143;dub;mircea_popescu: some apparently cannot 705300;1402060149;mircea_popescu;there go asciilifeform's hopes of impalement as a punishment 705301;1402060152;TomServo;evidently they can, may include perforated colon, but hey 705302;1402060152;pankkake;!up Diablo-D3 705303;1402060152;mircea_popescu;dub, good point 705304;1402060166;Diablo-D3;is kenneth pinyan mr hands? 705305;1402060173;mircea_popescu;TomServo, its dawning of me that for it to be a perforated colon rather than a torn anus it'd have had to be... in 705306;1402060192;dub;Diablo-D3: think so, thats the voyage of discovery mp is on 705307;1402060196;Diablo-D3;ahh 705308;1402060199;TomServo;never a pleasant realization 705309;1402060202;mircea_popescu;dub has ruined my innocence. 705310;1402060209;Diablo-D3;yeah, thats, uh, just, uh, lame tbh 705311;1402060217;Diablo-D3;there are much safer alternatives than horse dick 705312;1402060221;dub;I know another kenneth who could use getting fucked to death by a horse 705313;1402060227;Diablo-D3;like those hilariously large faux horse dildos 705314;1402060231;mircea_popescu;maybe take him down to the farm ? 705315;1402060244;kakobrekla;wtf my nsa shirt has holes innit. brand new holes. 705316;1402060256;mircea_popescu;did you sleep woith a horse ? 705317;1402060261;kakobrekla;not yet 705318;1402060263;dub;one each for your arms and the hairy part in the middle 705319;1402060270;mircea_popescu;then stop going to sleep with your cigar lit ? 705320;1402060283;TomServo;I thought NSA shirts shipped with cardano?! what is this scam?! 705321;1402060290;mircea_popescu;TomServo, shhh 705322;1402060292;kakobrekla;its a fresh one. 705323;1402060304;mircea_popescu;we're making it difficult for the real nsa to get one. 705324;1402060527;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: IRC meets blockchain technology << actually if you want to do something useful, provision a server (ie, the actual hardware), donate its use to the freenode people (they have a special page) 705325;1402060553;mircea_popescu;that way, if anything happens (such as freenode going down, or becoming assholes or w/e) we'll have a set of irc servers ready to go and create our own irc network. 705326;1402060577;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: was just trolling :) 705327;1402060590;mircea_popescu;ya but it's strategically relevant to our interests. 705328;1402060609;dub;usually the bar for linking a server is set kinda high 705329;1402060628;mircea_popescu;the ircd is solid, and the irc network is going to be how we communicate. 705330;1402060658;mircea_popescu;dub, seeing how there's dozens of them... 705331;1402060664;thestringpuller;/lastlog thestringpuller 5 705332;1402060667;thestringpuller;wow 705333;1402060670;dub;you might be able to donate hardware but they wont give you control of it without a lot of trust 705334;1402060692;mircea_popescu;not a matter of control of it. 705335;1402060743;ThickAsThieves;anyone have a cryptsy referral code? 705336;1402060767;mircea_popescu;sorry. 705337;1402060772;mircea_popescu;(is this one of the new exchanges ?) 705338;1402060786;ThickAsThieves;it's the all-encompassing crypto-only exchange 705339;1402060791;mircea_popescu;aok 705340;1402060803;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/register?refid=3099 705341;1402060805;assbot;Cryptsy - Register New Account 705342;1402060813;pankkake;it's where altcoins go to die. and it's old 705343;1402060827;pankkake;"To increase your trading ability, please verify your account!" lol 705344;1402060829;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085858 = 16.313 BTC [-] 705345;1402060852;ThickAsThieves;i already made the account, it says 3099 is an invalid code 705346;1402060854;dub;bittrex looks ok, seems to be real people 705347;1402060880;ThickAsThieves;oh 705348;1402060883;ThickAsThieves;i need your trade key 705349;1402060886;dub;no ATC though 705350;1402060896;pankkake;88ee24aa384fa7680c54db5d3a17ded28aed34e0 705351;1402060902;pankkake;I thought it was some sort of secret key 705352;1402060905;pankkake;apparently it isn't 705353;1402060905;ThickAsThieves;done 705354;1402060909;pankkake;thanks 705355;1402060921;ThickAsThieves;np 705356;1402061231;los_pantalones;had a buddy at cryptsy that kept getting negative btc balances 705357;1402061236;los_pantalones;he met up w/ the guys who run it 705358;1402061240;los_pantalones;they wouldn't admit it was a bug 705359;1402061258;los_pantalones;then i think a few more people started reporting issues 705360;1402061275;los_pantalones;no real conclusion, just be wary 705361;1402061305;Apocalyptic;that's been known for a long time 705362;1402061314;los_pantalones;alrighty 705363;1402061341;Apocalyptic;alas noobs don't care 705364;1402061363;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: what you doing with Cryptsy? getting ATC listed? 705365;1402061414;mircea_popescu;"the Bitcoin network has reached nearly 100 petahashes of processing power, less than 8 piddling months after hitting 1 petahash." 705366;1402061431;mircea_popescu;pete's law of the bitcoin network ? "two degrees of magnitude each 8 months" 705367;1402061610;ThickAsThieves;<+fluffypony> ThickAsThieves: what you doing with Cryptsy? getting ATC listed? /// well i'm emailing support for the seconf time about it, but this time to see if they'll add it to a special page they have for letting community vote on what to add next. this mechanism also has a way to pay for votes (i havent done the math) 705368;1402061632;fluffypony;yeah to the voting page 705369;1402061645;ThickAsThieves;I've also got the trading bug a few weeks ago, so dipping into alts too 705370;1402061647;mircea_popescu;how much could it be 705371;1402061689;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: well 705372;1402061698;fluffypony;Mediterraneancoin has 17886 votes 705373;1402061703;fluffypony;at 0.0002 each 705374;1402061713;fluffypony;3.5 BTC 705375;1402061717;mircea_popescu;o so vote count doesn't actually do anything ? 705376;1402061732;mircea_popescu;i thought they have 10 derps voting like whatever meanwhile dead exchange used to 705377;1402061737;mircea_popescu;and you give a coupla bitcents to each or w/e 705378;1402061748;fluffypony;each registered user gets 1 free vote 705379;1402061756;fluffypony;and you can also use your Cryptsy points to vote 705380;1402061766;fluffypony;I have some points I can blow on votes 705381;1402061769;fluffypony;once it's on there 705382;1402061778;mircea_popescu;eh da fuck. who runs this thing again ? 705383;1402061799;Apocalyptic;some Big Vern in Flordia 705384;1402061799;mircea_popescu;playing stupid social media games with some anon's derpy site, what is this. 705385;1402061803;fluffypony;BigVern 705386;1402061804;Apocalyptic;*Florida 705387;1402061830;pankkake;many altcoin exchanges have the same bizness model 705388;1402061890;asciilifeform;apparently we have a kind of bird here which can crash - infinite loop. 2 hrs. now repeatedly flying into window, perching on plank (must be 100g of shit on it now) and repeat. and again. 705389;1402061927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11570 @ 0.0008597 = 9.9467 BTC [+] {2} 705390;1402061956;fluffypony;infinite hit points 705391;1402061964;mircea_popescu;ya how do you know it's the same bird 705392;1402061975;fluffypony;I believe you've discovered the Lilac Breasted Usagi, asciilifeform 705393;1402061981;asciilifeform;filmed it. 705394;1402061988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 3000 @ 0.0003 = 0.9 BTC [+] 705395;1402061996;mircea_popescu;lol 705396;1402062049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14047 @ 0.00085831 = 12.0567 BTC [-] 705397;1402062158;ThickAsThieves;the pope is replenishing hit points "Pontiff says couples who decide not to procreate and opt to get a dog or cat instead face the 'bitterness of loneliness' in old age" 705398;1402062176;fluffypony;omf I've got to tell the wife 705399;1402062188;fluffypony;at least we have something to look forward to in our old age :-P 705400;1402062199;xmj;ThickAsThieves: eeee 705401;1402062201;fluffypony;who else is going to Talla at the end of the month? 705402;1402062339;mircea_popescu;face the 'bitterness of loneliness' in old age" << this is quite true, he has a point. 705403;1402062353;xmj;he does 705404;1402062366;xmj;but it does not need the pope to bring up the image of the old, bitter, catlady 705405;1402062366;fluffypony;s/Talla/Tallinn 705406;1402062371;fluffypony;can't type today 705407;1402062420;*;asciilifeform goes out to reset bird 705408;1402062430;ThickAsThieves;you heard it here first, Kate-Craig is gonna default on the ciphermine.b1 bond 705409;1402062437;ThickAsThieves;not that you should be surprised 705410;1402062453;fluffypony;:/ 705411;1402062474;fluffypony;I haven't spoken to her since December 705412;1402062476;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00085831 = 3.4762 BTC [-] 705413;1402062480;fluffypony;heard she got sick 705414;1402062481;punkman;pigeon flew into the house the other day, derped around for like 10 minutes, shat on my bed, then flew out before I could strangle it 705415;1402062486;pankkake;deprived wasn't 100% in it right? 705416;1402062493;Apocalyptic;TAT, kinda wondering why you need cryptsy to accept ATC 705417;1402062501;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: volume 705418;1402062519;ThickAsThieves;it's not a "need" 705419;1402062536;pankkake;punkman: wow, that's some level of pigeon-assholism 705420;1402062536;Apocalyptic;fluffypony, that "volume" is essentially trader puming & dumping coins 705421;1402062537;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.024394 = 0.2439 BTC [-] 705422;1402062538;ThickAsThieves;but it would help it grow 705423;1402062545;fluffypony;sure 705424;1402062549;fluffypony;but it's a marketing exercise 705425;1402062553;pankkake;it's advertising 705426;1402062556;punkman;pankkake: yeah last pigeon had the decency to only shit under the bed 705427;1402062572;ThickAsThieves;i understand why you'd want things to stay on x-bt though 705428;1402062585;ThickAsThieves;but the alternative would be to advertise x-bt more 705429;1402062589;ThickAsThieves;or add more coins to it 705430;1402062590;ThickAsThieves;etc 705431;1402062624;Apocalyptic;adding more coins will attract the kind of people we really don't want in ATC imo 705432;1402062648;mircea_popescu; you heard it here first, Kate-Craig is gonna default on the ciphermine.b1 bond << such a successful business-ex-man ?! 705433;1402062666;*;asciilifeform woke up from the noise, looked in window, saw wild cat tunneling (!) under the house. but then the cat successfully penetrated, and the noise continued - then found bird. on other side of bldg. cat isn't doing his work. 705434;1402062685;mircea_popescu; but the alternative would be to advertise x-bt more << this can't hurt. 705435;1402062689;Apocalyptic;it's like saying to MPEX to add more bitcoinbourse securities, cause that's where it's at 705436;1402062697;ThickAsThieves;it can't hurt, but it's not my job 705437;1402062697;mircea_popescu;why play the stupid games of some derp that's not even in the wot ? 705438;1402062704;Apocalyptic;indeed mircea 705439;1402062708;mircea_popescu;so bigvern is your job ?! 705440;1402062713;kakobrekla; filmed it. < urlpls 705441;1402062721;ThickAsThieves;well i technically have no job 705442;1402062721;pankkake;https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-3466 705443;1402062722;assbot;CVE -CVE-2014-3466 705444;1402062737;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: will upload a few min. of it, have patience. 705445;1402062742;pankkake;criticial flaw in gnutls :( 705446;1402062750;mircea_popescu;ahahaha o boy. 705447;1402062759;asciilifeform;lol! 705448;1402062766;Apocalyptic;ThickAsThieves, I heard Blockr is going to implement x-bt as the default exchange for ATC 705449;1402062776;Apocalyptic;and Cryptocoinschart is going to add it as well 705450;1402062783;Apocalyptic;so i'm working on it 705451;1402062787;pankkake;ccc would be nice 705452;1402062796;ThickAsThieves;excellent, i'm not trying to act critical or impatient 705453;1402062804;pankkake;better would be coinmarketcap 705454;1402062841;ThickAsThieves;but the next level of ATC adoption would likely include it being listed on another crop of exchanges regardless 705455;1402062853;ThickAsThieves;whether i instigate it or not 705456;1402062864;ThickAsThieves;and odds are also high my instigation will be ineffective anyway 705457;1402062881;ThickAsThieves;and things will continue to play out as they do without me 705458;1402062903;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00085976 = 8.9845 BTC [+] 705459;1402062941;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves, basically you've elected to not be part of bitcoin and so to dull the ache of it will now play an ipad app game about bitcoins ? 705460;1402062955;mircea_popescu;why make failure a goal, i wish to know. 705461;1402063025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.280775 = 1.1231 BTC [-] {3} 705462;1402063050;ThickAsThieves;seems to be your goal for my actions, not mine 705463;1402063074;ThickAsThieves;i'm just taking 15m out of my day to fancy a whim 705464;1402063079;mircea_popescu;well no, i don';t have one. i do have the habit of asking unpleasant questions. 705465;1402063090;ThickAsThieves;you're painting it like i voted for hitler 705466;1402063093;mircea_popescu;not necessarily always relevant, that's usually harder to optimize for 705467;1402063101;mircea_popescu;nah nha 705468;1402063147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27123 = 0.5425 BTC [-] 705469;1402063207;ThickAsThieves;i'm a bit more squishy than you when it comes to these ideals, like No WoT, No Service 705470;1402063243;ThickAsThieves;considering i think the WoT needs improvement and that just because you arent it doesnt make you a peasant or scammer 705471;1402063248;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB9eNpvG48 705472;1402063248;assbot;defective bird - YouTube 705473;1402063260;asciilifeform;^ a minute or so of the action 705474;1402063264;ThickAsThieves;in it* 705475;1402063275;mircea_popescu;well sure 705476;1402063289;asciilifeform;bird is still working even now! 705477;1402063292;fluffypony;LOL! 705478;1402063336;kakobrekla;omfg 705479;1402063344;kakobrekla;either glitch in the matrix or chemtrails. 705480;1402063357;asciilifeform;finally resolved to kill & cook it, but it's clever, hides. 705481;1402063383;mircea_popescu;lmao 705482;1402063423;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, as a s.nsa manager i'll have to ask you to refrain from eating any crazy poultry or fowl, 705483;1402063428;mircea_popescu;with regrets 705484;1402063435;asciilifeform;i'll leave it for the thick cat. 705485;1402063450;asciilifeform;(or for long cat. or any of the other local fauna) 705486;1402063452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6716 @ 0.00085788 = 5.7615 BTC [-] {2} 705487;1402063452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.02812013 = 0.4218 BTC [-] {2} 705488;1402063493;asciilifeform;(there are at least 7 distinct cats orbiting this place.) 705489;1402063496;Apocalyptic;https://imgur.com/gallery/QPi6xYc 705490;1402063497;assbot;I feel so sorry for american families - Imgur 705491;1402063574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+] 705492;1402063575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00256597 = 0.118 BTC [-] {4} 705493;1402063666;ThickAsThieves;http://freepdfhosting.com/0d53fc3f43.pdf looks like Ken is getting similar fines to Erik, except from the state of Mo instead 705494;1402063668;asciilifeform;i look at the fscking bird and all i can think, 'ortolan' 705495;1402063714;diametric;mircea_popescu: speaking of s.nsa, what's your take on erik's settlement with the SEC, and what do you think asciilifeform's risk is of falling into the same situation? 705496;1402063766;ThickAsThieves;good Q 705497;1402063770;mircea_popescu;diametric, well, i'm not a lawyer, and especially not one admitted before the sec bar 705498;1402063778;mircea_popescu;(they have like their own private bar by now) 705499;1402063822;mircea_popescu;my take on the erik settlement is in the logs, lemme fish it out 705500;1402063873;mike_c;i think if you scoured the entire logs you couldn't find one example of ascii promoting s.nsa shares 705501;1402063882;asciilifeform;i do suppose that, if i start being worth something, i will no longer be plagued by little birds, but by fat vultures 705502;1402063940;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11909 @ 0.00085755 = 10.2126 BTC [-] 705503;1402063951;diametric;mike_c: wasn't part of erik's fine simply because he had IPO'd without filing the required documentation? 705504;1402063993;ThickAsThieves;yes 705505;1402064006;mike_c;it seemed to me the only reason he got fined was that his feedzbirdz investors didn't make money. 705506;1402064007;asciilifeform;i'm still curious precisely why vorhees wasn't sent to the wagen for satoshidice 705507;1402064015;ThickAsThieves;their main problem seems to be that no filing for exemption or registration was made 705508;1402064019;mircea_popescu;diametric, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#702570 705509;1402064019;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 705510;1402064045;mircea_popescu;you will notice that the mpex offering is attached in the deal in a spurious and mostly doomed attempt to shoehorn some relevancy in the matter. 705511;1402064054;mircea_popescu;otherwise the entire discussion covers his glbse offering 705512;1402064067;diametric;hah "only" suffered 150k. 705513;1402064069;diametric;my tax dollars at work 705514;1402064080;mircea_popescu;this is a trend that has being going on for three years and is likely to continue : people who think they know better than me / don't listen to me will have problems. 705515;1402064146;mircea_popescu; mike_c: wasn't part of erik's fine simply because he had IPO'd without filing the required documentation? << no. he was fined for having advertised a glbse scam. 705516;1402064150;kakobrekla;trippy shit ascii, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0c_cUcgOEI 705517;1402064151;assbot;From Left to Right (Sleva Napravo) - YouTube 705518;1402064175;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: that was from an ancient soviet multi-parter 705519;1402064178;mircea_popescu;the rest is tacked on because the sec is in a very unenviable strategic position after our meanwhile piublished discussion, and would like to turn the "either mp's way or the highway" into some sort of "either mp's way or epsilon" 705520;1402064217;mike_c;speaking of s.nsa, May report coming soon? (mpoe too) 705521;1402064236;mircea_popescu;mike_c, as for nsa, pinguirker is sickj again 705522;1402064242;mircea_popescu;somehow it's always sick when i publish!!11 705523;1402064264;mike_c;i don't know what pankkake feeds that penguin. 705524;1402064271;mircea_popescu;as to mpoe, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014#705189 705525;1402064271;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 705526;1402064300;mike_c;ah, i was 10 hours away from reading that. thx. 705527;1402064324;mircea_popescu;lol sorry. 705528;1402064337;mircea_popescu;i wish to be a LOGGERJACK!!1\ 705529;1402064352;mircea_popescu;jumping from log to log in the virgin forests of bitcoin-assetia 705530;1402064359;ThickAsThieves;they seem much more open-minded this time "Thank you for contacting Cryptsy. I am happy to assist. 705531;1402064359;ThickAsThieves;Thank you for introducing me to this coin. 705532;1402064359;ThickAsThieves;I have submitted your coin to our development team who will review it 705533;1402064359;ThickAsThieves;to see if it meets our requirements for addition to the Cryptsy exchange. 705534;1402064359;ThickAsThieves;If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know. :-)" 705535;1402064359;mircea_popescu;the endless lines, the mighty scotch pine... 705536;1402064415;kakobrekla;sounds like gox 705537;1402064464;mircea_popescu;maybe they hired the meanwhile unemployed miranda 705538;1402064469;mircea_popescu;or whatever was the guy'[s name 705539;1402064590;mircea_popescu;diametric, all that stuff aside, asciilifeform, as well as you and everyone else that can form this question or similar questions are well advised to get out of the soviet union. 705540;1402064606;mircea_popescu;much like getting into the wot, the best time to have done that is a few years agp 705541;1402064611;mircea_popescu;the 2nd best time is today. 705542;1402064624;mircea_popescu;do me a personal favour and don't wait for the exit taxes payable in bitcoin. 705543;1402064628;*;asciilifeform sits dourly in gravity well 705544;1402064668;mircea_popescu;i will further point out that argentine citizenship, unlike romanian citizenship, is a two year affair. 705545;1402064736;danielpbarron;09:26:55 <+los_pantalones> had a buddy at cryptsy that kept getting negative BTC balances << happened to me too 705546;1402064756;kakobrekla;that is why some ex. have 'reset balance' button 705547;1402064771;kakobrekla;fucking idiots. 705548;1402064855;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00085738 = 22.0775 BTC [-] 705549;1402064901;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-may-2014-statement/ 705550;1402064918;mircea_popescu;o wait it wasn't sick 705551;1402064923;mircea_popescu;i just have delayed rss feeds. 705552;1402064956;diametric;I've toyed with the idea of moving to Norway a few times.. but I have far too many things anchoring me here. 705553;1402064957;kakobrekla;lol 705554;1402064993;asciilifeform;doesn't No have the world's currently highest tax... 705555;1402065015;mircea_popescu;moving to norway would make no difference anyway. 705556;1402065042;asciilifeform;nato muppets, aye 705557;1402065102;diametric;at the time I mostly chose it due to the climate which I'd enjoy, as well as having the least amount of religious people. 705558;1402065123;asciilifeform;i thought jp holds the record for the latter 705559;1402065140;mircea_popescu;what's so bad about religious people tho ? 705560;1402065143;chetty;http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/05/us-eu-syria-idUSKBN0EG2IM20140605 705561;1402065143;assbot;EU states take aim at radical websites to counter Syria problem| Reuters 705562;1402065170;diametric;mircea_popescu: i don't like them. 705563;1402065205;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: in usa, various brands of nuttery are pushed by the church 705564;1402065244;mike_c;heh, you mean like religion? the church keep pushing that nuttery everywhere. 705565;1402065247;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform, that's more a factor of us specific idiocy. there was a fuckwit in the street hre, clearly american, derping about jesus to people. he clearly had a mortgage back home, 705566;1402065255;diametric;asciilifeform: well, i think i was more going along the lines of secularism, a lot of the population of JP doesn't identify with any single religion but rather pieces of several 705567;1402065265;mircea_popescu;and he clearly believed that a bunch of new world fuctards have truely and really discovered something imp0ortant about jesus. 705568;1402065282;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13380 @ 0.00085675 = 11.4633 BTC [-] {2} 705569;1402065289;mike_c;well, joseph smith did get those golden plates or whatever.. 705570;1402065290;mircea_popescu;that'd be the problem, this "i can do it" atttiude applied to religion. which isn't religion in any sense, unless you count ustardianism as a religion. 705571;1402065325;mike_c;i don't see angels stopping by argentina with golden messages from aliens 705572;1402065328;mircea_popescu;in other words, religion managed to never bother me anywhere - egypt included - as much as it bothers in the us. 705573;1402065354;mircea_popescu;mike_c, ikr? california so much more visible from space. 705574;1402065415;mircea_popescu;"Officials from the group will hold meetings with "the leading Internet operators" this month to look into the possibilities for immediately shutting down web sites and barring messages that spread hatred or encourage violent militancy or terrorism, the statement said." 705575;1402065432;mircea_popescu;let's make sure our boys can't compete with their boys, and if push comes to shove our entire country is made of girls. 705576;1402065462;mircea_popescu;hopefully the islamists come riding horses, and so the entire population of "France and Belgium were broadly supported by the other countries - Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Britain, the Netherlands, Ireland and Spain " can be sexually satisfied. 705577;1402065591;davout;mircea_popescu "moving to norway would make no difference anyway." <<< we're back at criteria to choosing a place to move to :D 705578;1402065604;asciilifeform;i gotta say, the fuckwits don't bother me (except on the rare occasions they show up to my door, spamming) 705579;1402065657;mircea_popescu;davout, meanwhile one has emerged in conversation. you folks coming to live with me in romania'd have had to wait > 10 years plus for citizenship, making it useless. any attempt to get the foreign minister to commit to making ongoing exceptions predictably failed, not for lack of him wanting to help, but for pure wtf... it's a eu country, it'd have ended up on all the newspapers. 705580;1402065670;mircea_popescu;argentina, meanwhile, wants you to wait *maybe* two years. that's useful. 705581;1402065671;asciilifeform;(u.s. fuckwits, as a general rule, don't have the courage to blow up heretics) 705582;1402065761;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i think you will find that quite a few folks here will join you to party in Ar, as soon as we figure out what to eat there. 705583;1402065779;mircea_popescu;empanadas are 90 cents per. 705584;1402065783;asciilifeform;us poor buggers with day jobs 705585;1402065789;mircea_popescu;learn to internets! 705586;1402065820;*;asciilifeform blows dust of 'webtv for dummies' (bought on a dare in college) 705587;1402065827;mike_c;ooh, i like this lenore skenazy woman 705588;1402065846;mircea_popescu;did the angels name her ? 705589;1402065863;mike_c;from punkman's link on leaving your child in the car 705590;1402065874;mike_c;she made national news for letting her 9 yr old ride the subway alone 705591;1402065885;mike_c;"“Let’s put aside for the moment that by far, the most dangerous thing you did to your child that day was put him in a car and drive someplace with him. About 300 children are injured in traffic accidents every day — and about two die. That’s a real risk" 705592;1402065892;mircea_popescu;whoa chetty check it out 705593;1402065998;kakobrekla;* asciilifeform blows dust of 'webtv for dummies' (bought on a dare in college) < wait whut camwhoreing ? 705594;1402066008;mircea_popescu;re that link : i had this nutty discussion with a guy at the mall in timisoara, his 4 yo kid was throwing an absolute tantrum on the ground 705595;1402066031;mircea_popescu;me "why don't you beat it ?" him *vacant stare* 705596;1402066035;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: 'webtv' was this '90s gizmo for the terminally sad 705597;1402066069;mike_c;idk that beatings help. i think i will just go with ignoring in that situation. 705598;1402066075;mike_c;beating = more screaming. 705599;1402066080;*;asciilifeform notices: bird is still working. 705600;1402066089;mike_c;what do i care if he wants to roll on the ground at the mall and scream? go for it. 705601;1402066094;kakobrekla;hm ok although you dont seem terminally sad. 705602;1402066108;mircea_popescu;mike_c, beatings help. 705603;1402066110;*;asciilifeform thonk. flap, flap. thonk. 705604;1402066112;mircea_popescu;ignoring doesn't help. 705605;1402066125;danielpbarron;i agree; spare the rod, spoil the child 705606;1402066128;mircea_popescu;mike_c, no, you just beat it until it's too scared to scream. 705607;1402066133;mike_c;help what? beating is attention, which is what they want. 705608;1402066135;danielpbarron;all are born wicked; that needs to be beaten out 705609;1402066140;mircea_popescu;no, beagting is painful 705610;1402066144;mircea_popescu;which is what they're wired to avoid 705611;1402066146;mircea_popescu;at all costs. 705612;1402066162;mike_c;true. well, I'll report back in a few years. 705613;1402066190;mircea_popescu; what do i care if he wants to roll on the ground at the mall and scream? go for it. << you care because if you didn't you'ds have married a chimp instead of his mother. 705614;1402066204;danielpbarron;beating a child is much more human then giving them a chemical lobotomy 705615;1402066219;mircea_popescu;did i stumble on a danielpbarron pet peeve ? 705616;1402066230;danielpbarron;no, i agree with you 705617;1402066239;danielpbarron;unless you are being sarcastic 705618;1402066239;mircea_popescu;well i can see that :) 705619;1402066243;mike_c;whoop, now i gotta give him percocet instaed of beatings :) 705620;1402066261;mircea_popescu;is that what they market codeine as ? 705621;1402066263;TomServo;+mircea_popescu | me "why don't you beat it ?" him *vacant stare* << didn't you say no beating unless double-digit in age? 705622;1402066275;danielpbarron;exactly; they give kids these pills which does damage to their brain; andd that's supposed to be more humane than a beating of the ass?? 705623;1402066277;mike_c;oxycodone 705624;1402066280;mircea_popescu;TomServo, i said it shouldn't be needed 705625;1402066306;mircea_popescu;(actually what i said iirc was that if it's needed you suck a sa parent, which ... well... yeah) 705626;1402066338;mike_c;point being if they are single digits you should be able to silence them with your warface. 705627;1402066366;danielpbarron;doesn't that warface have to come with the memory that i usually is followed by a beating? 705628;1402066370;danielpbarron;that it* 705629;1402066383;mircea_popescu;ancestral tho. 705630;1402066385;mike_c;no. my father never hit me (mom did spanking), but i was more scared of him than her. 705631;1402066394;TomServo;^ 705632;1402066395;mircea_popescu;!up Klirick 705633;1402066398;danielpbarron;my dad never hit me and i'm not afraid of him 705634;1402066404;mike_c;then his warface sucks. 705635;1402066409;danielpbarron;yeah it does 705636;1402066417;mircea_popescu;speaking of weird compounds : when i was a kid you could buy coideine phosphate otc. and people did. 705637;1402066427;ThickAsThieves;my dad did this neck pinching and hand-squeezing thing 705638;1402066430;mircea_popescu;and kids got it for coughs 705639;1402066430;ThickAsThieves;it was plenty 705640;1402066433;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: likewise in ussr 705641;1402066446;TomServo;my mom rocked a wooden spoon pretty well 705642;1402066447;danielpbarron;10:46:55 <+mircea_popescu> me "why don't you beat it ?" him *vacant stare* 705643;1402066450;danielpbarron;ack 705644;1402066460;danielpbarron;you could buy coideine phosphate otc. << sippin' on sizurp 705645;1402066461;ThickAsThieves;ever have someone cup their hand over yours and press inward on your fingernails while the hand is closed? 705646;1402066477;mike_c;TomServo: did she make you get it for her? :) 705647;1402066477;ThickAsThieves;it's a little known trick 705648;1402066478;mircea_popescu;mike_c, btw, the "mom did spanking" part is extremely important for the WOMAN's mental health. 705649;1402066482;danielpbarron;they replaced the codeine with DXM 705650;1402066487;mircea_popescu;wish you to hear an ancient story ? 705651;1402066496;mike_c;stories are fun 705652;1402066501;asciilifeform;aye 705653;1402066511;mircea_popescu;ok so, you've probably heard of gehenna, but you probably don't know what it actually was. 705654;1402066527;danielpbarron;DXM is very trippy and is alleged to cause lesions 705655;1402066532;danielpbarron;of the brain 705656;1402066532;mircea_popescu;turns out, among the many things the ancient babylonians invented, such as the seals, and commerce, 705657;1402066535;mircea_popescu;was risk management. 705658;1402066548;mircea_popescu;a key part of this risk management was the following weird as shit aspect : 705659;1402066560;mircea_popescu;kids die, in 4000bc. unavoidably so, for a multitude or reasons. 705660;1402066571;Mats_cd03;i guess my brain has lesions 705661;1402066580;danielpbarron;mine too 705662;1402066581;mircea_popescu;parents loathe this. and more so in 4000bc than today, for today it's only imagined, whereas then it was a fact. 705663;1402066591;mircea_popescu;so the babylonians started KILLING their children. 705664;1402066603;mircea_popescu;because if you can't prevent it, the only other way to gain some control over it is to do it yourself. 705665;1402066619;mircea_popescu;the mothers had serious problems with this. the fathers did to. and yet... cold equations of power. 705666;1402066624;Mats_cd03;dumb 705667;1402066631;mircea_popescu;the fathers BOUGHT poor kids to kill instead of their own kids. 705668;1402066637;mircea_popescu;which their raised and dressed the same. 705669;1402066637;los_pantalones;what was the goal of it? illusion of control ? 705670;1402066638;danielpbarron;The Bible says, a rebellious son should be brought to the town elders and stoned to death by the community 705671;1402066640;mircea_popescu;the mothers just wept. 705672;1402066652;mircea_popescu;the religion moved to forbid women weeping, 705673;1402066657;mike_c;craziness. good to know people have always been as dumb as they are today. 705674;1402066661;mircea_popescu;\and to improve the ocntrol of this, they found a place, a natural canyon, 705675;1402066665;mircea_popescu;where they did all the killing. 705676;1402066670;asciilifeform;thought gehenna was the babypit outside old jerusalem 705677;1402066679;mircea_popescu;to prevent pestilence, they started lkeeping fires going all the time 705678;1402066687;mircea_popescu;and the place's name was... gehenna. 705679;1402066705;mircea_popescu;to cover the screams of the eviscerate dbabes and their badly hurt mothers, 705680;1402066710;mircea_popescu;they started beating drums 705681;1402066721;mircea_popescu;and out of this effort to cover screams of children and take their mother's mind off it 705682;1402066724;mircea_popescu;music was born. 705683;1402066744;mircea_popescu;and from the stupidity of the illusion of control, as los_pantalones aptly put it, the control theatre 705684;1402066747;mircea_popescu;a new religion was born. 705685;1402066758;mircea_popescu;a woman had a positive incentive to mary a christian (this is much pre jesus, btw) 705686;1402066759;asciilifeform;i thought even the archaeologically-challenged are at least familiar with the babypit of sparta, say 705687;1402066768;mircea_popescu;because that man made a firm promise prenup to never kill her children in this manner. 705688;1402066782;mircea_popescu;and so the new religion spread. 705689;1402066794;mircea_popescu;~ fin ~ 705690;1402066816;danielpbarron;a true christian would advocate the stoning to death of a rebellious son, even to this day 705691;1402066848;chetty;hmm I think most of todays xtians are new testament not old 705692;1402066854;mircea_popescu;but for that matter, the catholic contemporary instistence on "raising the children in the church" and promising to do so 705693;1402066862;mircea_popescu;talks back to quite ancient tradition. 6 millenia or more. 705694;1402066863;danielpbarron;chetty, it's all one; the whole Bible is essential 705695;1402066885;Mats_cd03;lol 705696;1402066896;mike_c;a true father would advocate the stoning to death of a christian son. 705697;1402066898;TomServo;danielpbarron: I dunno, doing DXM and causing brain lesions sounds pretty rebellious. Would you have made it? :P 705698;1402066912;danielpbarron;TomServo, no; i should have been stoned to death 705699;1402066933;danielpbarron;stoning someone to death is against the law in the US, and the Bible says to submit to the governing authorities 705700;1402066933;asciilifeform;re: drowning idiot sons: 705701;1402066933;Mats_cd03;religion is an infection 705702;1402066934;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014&bots=true#509005 705703;1402066934;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 705704;1402066954;Mats_cd03;the weak succumb 705705;1402067023;diametric;danielpbarron: so then you agree since the law in the US allows gays to marriage, you must submit? 705706;1402067034;danielpbarron;submit to what? 705707;1402067041;danielpbarron;that's per state, btw 705708;1402067048;diametric;acknowledging the legitimacy of their marriage. 705709;1402067055;diametric;Well, a state if a governing authority is it not? 705710;1402067057;diametric;is* 705711;1402067059;mircea_popescu;so if in your state it's legal, and a gay dude buys you from your parents 705712;1402067065;diametric;^ 705713;1402067067;mircea_popescu;do you acknowledge you now have to obey him and so on ? 705714;1402067077;mircea_popescu;put out, do the dishes, w/e 705715;1402067078;diametric;i don't think he has a choice 705716;1402067082;asciilifeform;lol 705717;1402067082;danielpbarron;idk if it's legal to sell children 705718;1402067091;danielpbarron;the state has a monopoly on adoption 705719;1402067093;diametric;danielpbarron: the bible says it should be 705720;1402067100;mircea_popescu;lol wait he has a pore out 705721;1402067106;mircea_popescu;pretty cool. 705722;1402067145;danielpbarron;but anyway; to answer the question: yes I would honor my parents even if they are wicked (mine happen to be currently) 705723;1402067155;danielpbarron;atheists 705724;1402067158;mircea_popescu;what do they do ? 705725;1402067171;asciilifeform;to be fair, 'render unto caesar...' was written before caesar was synonymous with 'batshit' 705726;1402067171;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/DigkZGS.gif << this is too fuckin cute 705727;1402067172;diametric;danielpbarron: but doesn't the bible also say honoring wicked people is a sin? 705728;1402067172;danielpbarron;my mom is an adulterer (divorced my dad and now has a boyfriend) 705729;1402067173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.024394 = 0.122 BTC [-] 705730;1402067185;diametric;danielpbarron: doesn't that kind of fuck you in the end, you're going to hell whether you like it or not 705731;1402067188;danielpbarron;diametric, chapter and verse please/ 705732;1402067203;danielpbarron;diametric, it terrifies me 705733;1402067208;diametric;lol 705734;1402067209;mircea_popescu;lmao diametric just got served a "link ?" v0.1 705735;1402067241;jurov;ThickAsThieves: there? 705736;1402067259;jurov;i wonder how would you help f.mpif moving if you were mm 705737;1402067278;Mats_cd03;you have to be pretty gullible to believe in the bible 705738;1402067285;diametric;you guys are sure he's not a troll? 705739;1402067297;diametric;Poe's law is a bitch. 705740;1402067327;mircea_popescu;"I know that a home with an unfenced swimming pool is as dangerous as one with a loaded gun." 705741;1402067329;mircea_popescu;eh what the fuck. 705742;1402067330;diametric;danielpbarron: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+13%3A10&version=ESV is the closest I can find. Since your parents are atheists, I think its your duty to go stone them now. 705743;1402067331;assbot;Deuteronomy 13:10 ESV - You shall stone him to death with - Bible Gateway 705744;1402067348;diametric;take pics and report back. 705745;1402067350;Mats_cd03;evangelicals are basically trolls 705746;1402067382;mike_c;more kids die from the pool than from guns. 705747;1402067420;danielpbarron;diametric, that would violate Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 705748;1402067421;Mats_cd03;lets change that statistic and gun some children down 705749;1402067436;diametric;danielpbarron: so your god contradicts himself? 705750;1402067439;diametric;does he do that often? 705751;1402067446;diametric;maybe the only solution is to stone yourself then. 705752;1402067466;mircea_popescu;srsly ? 705753;1402067466;danielpbarron;diametric, it is not a requirement of salvation to enforce the law of the old testement, but it isn't a bad idea if you can do it 705754;1402067475;mircea_popescu;well if i had no other reasons to not have kids, this'd be sufficient. 705755;1402067482;mircea_popescu;i do not wish to be involved with anything that annoying. 705756;1402067486;mike_c;;;calc 105.599253 / 166.97404975 705757;1402067486;gribble;0.632429129904 705758;1402067517;mike_c;gribble needs a _ operator 705759;1402067519;mircea_popescu;fucking fence the pool. what next. 705760;1402067520;pankkake;you managed to fuck a billion women and had no kids? 705761;1402067534;mircea_popescu;im pretty sure it wasn't a billion women 705762;1402067539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00085847 = 15.2378 BTC [+] {2} 705763;1402067591;mircea_popescu;My friends and I sometimes play this game, the did-our-parents-really-let-us-do-that game. We recall bike ramps, model rockets, videotaping ourselves setting toys on fire. Many remember taking off on bikes alone, playing in the woods for hours without adult supervision, crawling through storm drains to follow creek beds, latchkey afternoons, monkey bars installed over slabs of concrete. My husband recalls forts built 705764;1402067591;mircea_popescu;in the trunk of the station wagon on long road trips. I remember standing up in the back of my fathers LeBaron convertible while he cruised around the neighborhood, or spending an hour lying low on the seat of our station wagon, feet against the window, daydreaming or reading in crowded parking lots while my mother got groceries or ran other boring errands. One friend tells me how, from 7-Elevens, to Kroger, to var 705765;1402067591;mircea_popescu;ious banks, schools and offices, he was left alone in the front passenger seat of a convertible Mustang for a good portion of his childhood, primarily because he was shy and wanted to not have to meet new people. For people of our generation, living a suburban childhood, the car was central to our lives, not simply a mode of transportation but in many ways, an extension of our home. 705766;1402067600;mircea_popescu;all the many things that are STILL not dangerous today. 705767;1402067607;diametric;danielpbarron: oh so now that the old testament is hard to justify in modern times, you just throw it away? except you can't, because matthew 5:18 clearly says, from Jesus, that until heaven and earth are gone, you need to follow the law of the old testament. 705768;1402067627;mike_c;jurov: how are you trying to make it move? more volume isn't really a goal is it? 705769;1402067655;mircea_popescu;"In the months of fear and shame that followed my being charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, I continuously analyzed my own mind-set that day, trying to understand how I did something that both a bystander and a police officer considered criminally dangerous, and the best I could come up with was the theory that Id been lulled by nostalgia into a false sense of security." 705770;1402067657;diametric;danielpbarron: 17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.… 705771;1402067667;mircea_popescu;the correct conclusion being that a bystander is insane and the police officer cowardly. 705772;1402067668;diametric;danielpbarron: i think you're in a bindh ere. 705773;1402067754;diametric;I wonder what Jesus's take on Bitcoin would be. 705774;1402067764;danielpbarron;diametric, the law has not be abolished; it has been fulfilled. It is still the law, but salvation is achieved through belief, not strict enforcement 705775;1402067772;jurov;fyi, hungarian citizenship is easy, just dig out some confirmation your ancestors are from old hungary (=practically whole eastern europe) 705776;1402067786;mircea_popescu;jurov, not practically useful to muricans. 705777;1402067801;diametric;danielpbarron: its still the law, and jesus says you should follow the law, how is that not clear? 705778;1402067807;jurov;not if their grandma came from there 705779;1402067818;diametric;danielpbarron: why are you not out stoning atheists and raping their wives right now. 705780;1402067821;jurov;mike_c: yes more volume 705781;1402067837;danielpbarron;diametric, because Jesus said to submit to the government authorities, and they made stoning illegal 705782;1402067862;mike_c;lots of trading volume is not a good thing, or the goal of a market maker. goal of a market maker should be to keep the price near the intrinsic value of the asset. 705783;1402067881;jurov;*and* profit 705784;1402067884;mike_c;this being the goal of a good market maker, not a wall street huckster. 705785;1402067915;mike_c;you profit when people want to trade away from the asset's intrinsic value and you allow them to. 705786;1402067927;diametric;danielpbarron: killing gays in uganda is legal, so people slaughtering them still have a ticket to heaven? 705787;1402067934;mircea_popescu;mike_c, there's also some interest to allow people be served. 705788;1402067939;jurov;it is well outside it already 705789;1402067949;mircea_popescu;is it ?! 705790;1402067966;diametric;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014 705791;1402067966;assbot;Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 705792;1402067968;jurov;!t m f.mpif 705793;1402067969;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 (4601 shares, 1.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 705794;1402067976;diametric;danielpbarron: so? 705795;1402067977;mike_c;intrinsic value != nav 705796;1402067994;mircea_popescu;mike_c, in this case ? why not ? 705797;1402067996;jurov;last report says 0.0021536 705798;1402067997;diametric;danielpbarron: up until that point, it was cool right? 705799;1402068018;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1.01*0.0021536 705800;1402068018;gribble;0.002175136 705801;1402068018;jurov;;;calc 21725/21536 705802;1402068019;gribble;1.00877600297 705803;1402068030;danielpbarron;diametric, you aren't saved by enforcing the law.. if you enforce the law without believing, you are like the hypocrites Jesus scolded for trying to kill the prostitute 705804;1402068032;mircea_popescu;jurov, seems within bounds 705805;1402068032;mike_c;because present value of future cash flows counts. 705806;1402068037;jurov;ok, it's not "well" outside, i take it back 705807;1402068061;ThickAsThieves;<+jurov> ThickAsThieves: there? --- mostly 705808;1402068081;diametric;danielpbarron: so at the time, when being gay was a capital offense, and killing a gay person was legal, if a Christian killed a gay person in Uganda, and believed, they're in heaven right? 705809;1402068082;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/better-business-bureau-issues-warning-business-cointerra/ 705810;1402068097;jurov;ThickAsThieves i just asked you to look to f.mpif order book and some ideas 705811;1402068097;diametric;danielpbarron: well I should say, they'll go to heaven. 705812;1402068097;danielpbarron;diametric, yes; homosexuals should be stoned to death 705813;1402068120;diametric;there we go, at least you're acknowledging the brutality of your all loving god. 705814;1402068122;jurov;"what would TAT do" 705815;1402068125;Blazedout419;lol stoned to death? 705816;1402068136;diametric;He loves you more with ever toss of a stone. 705817;1402068138;mike_c;not to keep sticking my nose in when you keep asking TaT, but i don't think more volume should be a goal. 705818;1402068142;danielpbarron;diametric, God also hates and kills 705819;1402068153;mike_c; 705820;1402068160;Blazedout419;oh you believe in that crap then? 705821;1402068170;ThickAsThieves;hmm i havent paid attention to it, but i will say i think your goal is to make money while following the rules, nothing more 705822;1402068173;diametric;this is a perfect example of Poe's law happening 705823;1402068178;Blazedout419;the mighty sky people... 705824;1402068196;ThickAsThieves;you have plenty info, but i'm guessing there is no action on the books outside 1% 705825;1402068219;danielpbarron;diametric, I get that a lot 705826;1402068232;jurov;mike_c you're free to discuss ofc, volume goal stems from me wating to get something out of it 705827;1402068237;diametric;as fun as it is playing chess with pigeons, i'm going afk for a bit. 705828;1402068239;ThickAsThieves;fwiw, it's common for very little selling to happen on mpex 705829;1402068255;mike_c; if you have good shareholders, why do you want them leaving? (i.e. selling) 705830;1402068286;mircea_popescu;lol somebody's read buffett 705831;1402068298;mike_c;40 years worth so far. 10 more to go. 705832;1402068300;ThickAsThieves;no one said you want them selling or leaving 705833;1402068311;ThickAsThieves;but we're in jurov's shows here 705834;1402068314;ThickAsThieves;no one else's 705835;1402068315;jurov;okay, so.. if the orderbook/volume keeps staying like this, i'll just get long 705836;1402068318;ThickAsThieves;shoes* 705837;1402068322;mircea_popescu;anyway, take the ethical end of it : would you rather have drug addicts use clean needles or w/e they can find in hospital garbage ? 705838;1402068335;ThickAsThieves;you're left basically waiting for your over/underpriced orders to fill 705839;1402068343;ThickAsThieves;or otherwise watching paint dry 705840;1402068359;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves, it's always dangerous to imagine things will forever go the way they went the past month. 705841;1402068363;mike_c;BingoBoingo watched paint dry last month. it was the right thing to do. 705842;1402068369;ThickAsThieves;of course, things WILL happen 705843;1402068369;jurov;yes. the problem is, overpriced order end up above the 1m offered 705844;1402068386;jurov;and underpriced must get below my 2% band 705845;1402068391;ThickAsThieves;but their frequency is low here 705846;1402068398;jurov;and this can stay so for several moths 705847;1402068406;mike_c;then you have an easy job :) 705848;1402068413;jurov;lolk 705849;1402068414;ThickAsThieves;easy and hard 705850;1402068433;ThickAsThieves;i think jurov is just expressing he feels ineffective 705851;1402068458;mike_c;at some point a significant holder will want to get out, or a significant buyer will want to get in. jurov will be there waiting. 705852;1402068480;jurov;just soliciting ideas, i may feel ineffective if this keeps going on for longer time 705853;1402068511;mike_c;isn't your constraint 1%? 705854;1402068521;jurov;yes, on both sides of nav 705855;1402068521;ThickAsThieves;yeah 705856;1402068530;chetty;http://deadspin.com/rio-mayor-on-world-cup-we-re-latins-we-re-not-used-t-1586749546?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=fridayAM 705857;1402068531;assbot;Rio Mayor On World Cup: "Were Latins, Were Not Used To Deadlines" 705858;1402068534;ThickAsThieves;so all he has to do is keep himself in his band and wait 705859;1402068536;jurov;so 2% toether 705860;1402068540;mike_c;;;calc 0.0002158 * 1.01 705861;1402068540;gribble;0.000217958 705862;1402068560;mike_c;ah, that is above the new share block. 705863;1402068566;ThickAsThieves;unless you wanna go promoting MPEx to get more users, which, incidentally is already something you have incentive to do with Coinbr 705864;1402068576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 882 @ 0.0008585 = 0.7572 BTC [+] 705865;1402068668;ThickAsThieves;how are things going with CoinBr, if i may ask? 705866;1402068771;jurov;coinbr rode mostly on satoshidice 705867;1402068782;jurov;since it went away, not very much 705868;1402068789;ThickAsThieves;i see 705869;1402068796;ThickAsThieves;any plans for it? 705870;1402068898;jurov;the thing i think would help most, would be to offer margin.. but i don't feel like going into such alone and did not find anyone suitable yet 705871;1402068970;ThickAsThieves;i'm not sure it'd be the solution at this time really 705872;1402068992;jurov;why not? X.EUR + margin could replace the former options 705873;1402069008;ThickAsThieves;because mpex offers margin, no? 705874;1402069028;jurov;did you ask mp for it? you know wat are the conditions? 705875;1402069034;ThickAsThieves;no 705876;1402069042;ThickAsThieves;but you think you could offer better? 705877;1402069085;jurov;that's something i need someone who has plenty of trade experience to help figure me out 705878;1402069127;los_pantalones;jurov, what are you trying to shake out ? 705879;1402069134;ThickAsThieves;i dont see that as an early stage service to safely get into 705880;1402069135;los_pantalones;i may be able to help 705881;1402069152;jurov;i think of something like bitcoinica was, just done right and with delivery in euros (via x.eur) 705882;1402069153;ThickAsThieves;and combining that with that mpex does offer it, it seems an awkward path to start on 705883;1402069191;ThickAsThieves;i'd lean towards expansion into other less-mpexy services 705884;1402069213;jurov;such as.. dice games? :DDD 705885;1402069221;ThickAsThieves;hehe 705886;1402069243;ThickAsThieves;well not quite what i meant, but i was forgetting you have that 705887;1402069254;ThickAsThieves;more like related services 705888;1402069260;Mats_cd03;god hates niggers 705889;1402069271;ThickAsThieves;i dunno, like specialized stock charting 705890;1402069287;ThickAsThieves;or integration with other stock exchanges 705891;1402069295;ThickAsThieves;and colored coins 705892;1402069315;ThickAsThieves;right now coinprism has a wallet and people can ipo, but there;s no exchange 705893;1402069320;ThickAsThieves;he's building one 705894;1402069337;ThickAsThieves;it won't have any reputation features 705895;1402069349;jurov;there's your answer... why they did not go on nigger coins? 705896;1402069363;ThickAsThieves;those would be better example of what i mean for paths for CoinBr 705897;1402069363;jurov;we looked into it for coinroll, it's mess 705898;1402069389;ThickAsThieves;just things to think about i guess 705899;1402069434;ThickAsThieves;as much as i have spoken against colored coins, i have come around to seeing how they'll probably have a place 705900;1402069450;jurov;and i have another project in the pipeline, too 705901;1402069461;jurov;no need to add more 705902;1402069475;ThickAsThieves;well then i should stop imposing 705903;1402069479;ThickAsThieves;:) 705904;1402069491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00086231 = 14.1419 BTC [+] {2} 705905;1402069493;ThickAsThieves;care to share anything about the other project? 705906;1402069515;jurov;anon dot ml ;) 705907;1402069550;ThickAsThieves;nice 705908;1402069551;jurov;it will use freenet to ensure we can't learn anything about the customers even under rectothermals 705909;1402069582;jurov;the prototype is working, but as did not find decent admin, must to thet part myself 705910;1402069583;ThickAsThieves;lemme know if you need help with the logo ;D 705911;1402069618;jurov;ok, good 705912;1402069724;ThickAsThieves;http://www.cnet.com/news/man-runs-3237-miles-in-name-of-bitcoin-and-homelessness/ 705913;1402069725;assbot;Man runs 3,237 miles in name of Bitcoin and homelessness - CNET 705914;1402069740;ThickAsThieves;"In the four months he's been on the move, he's shed 72 pounds, met all sorts of people, and been daunted by the thousands of miles ahead." 705915;1402069746;jurov;brb 705916;1402069979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00086279 = 4.6159 BTC [+] {2} 705917;1402070096;fluffypony;xmj: around? 705918;1402070105;xmj;fluffypony: no. 705919;1402070113;fluffypony;wow 705920;1402070115;fluffypony;such AI 705921;1402070122;fluffypony;xmj: tell xmj to come to his computer 705922;1402070148;fluffypony;worst bot ever. 705923;1402070162;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0213 = 0.1491 BTC [-] 705924;1402070223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.024394 = 0.1464 BTC [-] 705925;1402070367;xmj;such AI, many lulz, much fun 705926;1402070406;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 19.40158558 BTC to 8`242 shares, 235399 satoshi per share 705927;1402070589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76279896 BTC to 8`242 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 705928;1402070824;*;asciilifeform noticed that bird is still at work - and beginning to destroy expensive mosquito nets, tearing with beak, shitting continuously. i go out and set five mouse traps on its shit perch plank. two minutes later: unrelated bird whacked. i pick up carcass to throw to the kittehs, it comes back to life & rockets away, leaving glove full of feathers. 705929;1402070830;asciilifeform;original bird: still working hard. 705930;1402070833;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00086303 = 9.8817 BTC [+] {2} 705931;1402070833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] 705932;1402070841;fluffypony;ok 705933;1402070842;fluffypony;assbot 705934;1402070844;fluffypony;asciilifeform 705935;1402070846;fluffypony;you're going to love this 705936;1402070849;fluffypony;https://www.dropbox.com/s/oce9akdpaqchtf3/defective%20bird%201.mp4 705937;1402070850;assbot;Dropbox - defective bird 1.mp4 705938;1402070856;fluffypony;I paid someone on Fiverr to do a voiceover 705939;1402070894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02116067 = 0.3174 BTC [-] {5} 705940;1402070945;mike_c;you need a hobby :) 705941;1402070954;fluffypony;I have one - I wrote the script 705942;1402070954;fluffypony;:-P 705943;1402071260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02057647 = 0.3498 BTC [-] {5} 705944;1402071443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2401 BTC [-] 705945;1402071565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0214 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2} 705946;1402071931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0202 = 0.1616 BTC [-] {2} 705947;1402072067;jurov;asciilifeform: he came to demonstrate mircea's "you can't stop bird flying onto" 705948;1402072114;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.0202 = 0.2424 BTC [-] {2} 705949;1402072144;jurov;and/or to drop some NSA stuff around your house, i guess 705950;1402072146;TomServo;asciilifeform: So you have a cat burrowing under your foundation and bird trying to fly through your window? 705951;1402072257;BingoBoingo;%ticker 705952;1402072257;mike_c;this is what you get for moving out of the city 705953;1402072262;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 256 Last Price: 256 24h-Vol: 188k High: 256 Low: 185 VWAP: 224 705954;1402072297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.021898 = 0.1095 BTC [+] {2} 705955;1402072314;chetty;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/10880243/Argentina-appoints-new-secretary-of-national-thought.html 705956;1402072315;assbot;Argentina appoints new secretary of 'national thought' - Telegraph 705957;1402072323;BingoBoingo;Bird has hitpoint too, apparently 705958;1402072664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 173 @ 0.0202 = 3.4946 BTC [+] {2} 705959;1402072710;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Shotgun sized for spiders much not seem like such an excessive idea anymore... 705960;1402072724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02287487 = 0.183 BTC [+] {3} 705961;1402073029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0202 = 0.1212 BTC [+] {2} 705962;1402073273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 44 @ 0.0202 = 0.8888 BTC [+] 705963;1402073395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.0234 = 0.5382 BTC [-] 705964;1402073517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0234 = 0.1872 BTC [-] {2} 705965;1402073752;asciilifeform;fluffypony: lol! and, incidentally, the thing is... still there. 705966;1402073787;fluffypony;it's a persistent little shit, then 705967;1402073945;asciilifeform;amazing beast. 705968;1402073945;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 705969;1402073988;asciilifeform;if it's an avian cyborg warrior of the fuhrer, it's doing a piss poor job of being inconspicuous. 705970;1402074095;TomServo;asciilifeform: What kind of bird is it? 705971;1402074134;jurov;iirc pigeon 705972;1402074139;jurov;;;seen pigeons 705973;1402074139;gribble;pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 23 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: pediwikia? 705974;1402074984;thestringpuller;;;seen BingoBoingo 705975;1402074985;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 minutes and 54 seconds ago: asciilifeform: Shotgun sized for spiders much not seem like such an excessive idea anymore... 705976;1402074986;thestringpuller;oops 705977;1402075080;pankkake;!up Skirmant 705978;1402075102;Skirmant;thanks! 705979;1402075132;fluffypony;thestringpuller: http://youtu.be/beA99BVTFJ0 705980;1402075132;assbot;The Lilac Breasted Usagi Bird - YouTube 705981;1402075140;benkay;http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023778865_spushootingxml.html 705982;1402075295;punkman;fluffypony: who did the voiceover? not bad 705983;1402075305;fluffypony;punkman: some dude on Fiverr 705984;1402075342;fluffypony;http://www.fiverr.com/heresricky 705985;1402075591;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34064 @ 0.00085857 = 29.2463 BTC [-] {5} 705986;1402075702;jurov;http://www.ozarksfirst.com/media/lib/184/0/b/d/0bdcdfe7-623f-4653-be2a-7ba629d8ee70/Slaughter_Press_Release_6_3_2014.pdf from "Mr.Slaughter, in his 60s" 705987;1402075810;pankkake;there's no indication of how much will be refunded 705988;1402075825;pankkake;not that anyone can really know how much was actually spent 705989;1402075840;pankkake;so the fucker is going to keep a nice profit for himself 705990;1402075896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] {2} 705991;1402076323;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] 705992;1402076689;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MG] 380000 @ 0.00009001 = 34.2038 BTC [-] {4} 705993;1402076950;asciilifeform;TomServo, jurov: bird is a robin. and still working. 705994;1402076969;kakobrekla;still on the job?! 705995;1402076970;asciilifeform;Turdus migratorius. 705996;1402077147;jurov;http://www.rudebaguette.com/2014/06/06/la-maison-du-bitcoin-hosts-first-french-bitcoin-hackathon/ davout cool 705997;1402077147;assbot;La Maison du Bitcoin hosts the first French bitcoin hackathon 705998;1402077435;jurov;!up sedeki 705999;1402077453;jurov;!up sedeki 706000;1402077458;sedeki;hi 706001;1402077474;jurov;!up Littlep1_ 706002;1402077475;sedeki;will i get voiced if i rejoin now automatically? 706003;1402077485;jurov;sedeki sadly not 706004;1402077499;jurov;;;gettrust assbot sedeki 706005;1402077500;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask sedeki!~textual@unaffiliated/sedeki. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sedeki: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sedeki | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sedeki | Rated since: Thu Nov 15 20:15:51 2012 706006;1402077512;jurov;you need to get into level 2 here 706007;1402077515;sedeki;all right 706008;1402077531;jurov;!up bloctoc 706009;1402077542;jurov;!up jMyles 706010;1402077544;mike_c;what do you do sedeki? 706011;1402077552;sedeki;i'm a python/django programmer 706012;1402077562;mike_c;excellent choices. what do you work on? 706013;1402077572;sedeki;nothing at the moment 706014;1402077584;kakobrekla;excellent choice. 706015;1402077597;jurov;heh.. and do you have some past references? 706016;1402077599;pankkake;so what do you think about masters and slaves? 706017;1402077607;sedeki;haha 706018;1402077608;kakobrekla;and niggers? 706019;1402077629;jurov;just switch to turbogears. no such nonsense there :D 706020;1402077632;sedeki;that whole debate is just downside up 706021;1402077659;sedeki;or whatever :-) 706022;1402077694;sedeki;jurov are you looking for a programmer? 706023;1402077750;jurov;sedeki, yes. but i'm picky 706024;1402077784;sedeki;pm? 706025;1402077819;jurov;your work is super sikrit? 706026;1402077858;sedeki;i'd rather not disclose my full time job no 706027;1402077912;jurov;hm, i don't have good experiences with folks with fulltime jobs 706028;1402077926;jurov;they are even slower than me 706029;1402077937;kakobrekla;yes job is poison 706030;1402077945;sedeki;i have to make a living somehow 706031;1402077970;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02943368 = 0.2943 BTC [-] 706032;1402077988;BingoBoingo;sedeki: NSA or unemployed? 706033;1402077997;sedeki;unemployed 706034;1402078005;kakobrekla;nsa then. 706035;1402078007;asciilifeform;unemployed nsa grunt 706036;1402078011;kakobrekla;:D 706037;1402078030;jurov;maybe i can throw live.coinbr.com your way and let's see.. nsa needs proper graphs 706038;1402078055;kakobrekla;btcalpha? 706039;1402078072;jurov;btcalpha still does not have mpif 706040;1402078092;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00085552 = 17.0676 BTC [-] {3} 706041;1402078110;mike_c;huh? 706042;1402078120;fluffypony;jurov: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ 706043;1402078121;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 706044;1402078137;mike_c;http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/f-mpif/ 706045;1402078138;assbot;F.MPIF Analysis - Btc Alpha 706046;1402078142;jurov;oh it was added sry 706047;1402078161;mike_c;btcalpha - our motto is: never more than two months late. 706048;1402078199;jurov;anyway i have some code ready for really live updates and ticker it but it needs to be deployed and generally taken care of 706049;1402078206;BingoBoingo;I guess I provide some a five minute warning on an announcement concerning the sitting on the hands matter 706050;1402078211;BingoBoingo;%book 706051;1402078212;atcbot;12k@270 25k@269 18k@256 | 3k@150 50k@143 175k@142 706052;1402078236;BingoBoingo;%ticker 706053;1402078238;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 256 Last Price: 256 24h-Vol: 188k High: 256 Low: 185 VWAP: 224 706054;1402078295;BingoBoingo;%diff 706055;1402078297;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 172931.71 in 1949 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -75.83 706056;1402078372;jurov;brb gotta do groceries.. sedeki pm me if interested 706057;1402078460;BingoBoingo;Basically next month's ATC statement will be less boring than lasts. Still to early to say if it is for better or worse. 706058;1402078537;bloctoc;!up blotoc 706059;1402078539;fluffypony;I vote for better, k thx 706060;1402078555;benkay; !up blotoc // kek 706061;1402078576;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: It is a market, not a democracy. If you want to vote to to the BitBet comments like everyone else. 706062;1402078583;fluffypony;lol! 706063;1402078661;bloctoc;benkay you laugh but it worked! 706064;1402078683;BingoBoingo;!up MarcSummers 706065;1402078697;mircea_popescu;motherfucker. 706066;1402078707;mike_c;you called? 706067;1402078713;mircea_popescu;so i set up a new desktop system, works fine. i go to bed. 706068;1402078728;mircea_popescu;i wake up, it powers up but a)no signal to monitor 706069;1402078740;mircea_popescu;b) won't even turn off. ie, hold power down 5 seconds ? nada. 706070;1402078747;mircea_popescu;who the fuck ever heard of this. 706071;1402078811;fluffypony;I find modern desktop hardware incredibly finicky and unreliable 706072;1402078825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0236 = 0.118 BTC [-] 706073;1402078850;fluffypony;I had Quantum Bigfoot TX 6gb drives that lasted like 8 years or something ridiculous 706074;1402078857;bloctoc;!up Littlep1 706075;1402078865;fluffypony;despite me experimenting to see if I could hot-swap an IDE drive 706076;1402078877;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sounds like you have to start posting girls to keep watch for gremlins while you sleep. 706077;1402078899;mircea_popescu;that for one thing 706078;1402078932;mircea_popescu;but for another thing, what sort of failure mode is this you tell me ?! fans spin, on both cpu and vid card, but monitor reports no signal and board ignores atx shutdown 706079;1402078946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.01940015 = 0.2522 BTC [-] {4} 706080;1402078994;mircea_popescu;i mean what, the ite chip blew overnight out of loneliess ? 706081;1402079058;mircea_popescu;meanwhile other board won't see any harddrives. because fuck you, who said a board should see hard drives ? 706082;1402079068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.0190019 = 0.456 BTC [-] 706083;1402079162;mircea_popescu;anyway, anyone waiting for mpex deposits/withdrawals will have to wait till tomorrow. with my apologies. 706084;1402079185;mike_c;clearly the additional hardware installed on your motherboard during transit is having side effects 706085;1402079225;mircea_popescu;lol 706086;1402079283;BingoBoingo;Or perhaps the desired effects, maybe some sort of "Annoyotron" is hooked up to a JTAG port. 706087;1402079396;pankkake;I've had that, it was some electrical problem - fans spinning and nothing else happening 706088;1402079415;pankkake;had to remove stuff until I found the culprint 706089;1402079535;mike_c;what was the culprit? 706090;1402079547;mircea_popescu;and once the board is bare ? 706091;1402079565;pankkake;I don't remember wether it was a card or a hard drive 706092;1402079590;pankkake;I think I've had a hard drive block the boot, but it was even preventing the PSU from powering on 706093;1402079606;mircea_popescu;ya but see, this powers 706094;1402079616;mircea_popescu;i even tried to attach the speaker, but it makes no sound 706095;1402079624;mircea_popescu;i guess i'll have to chuck this board. 706096;1402079655;pankkake;some high end motherboards now have a status display - much easier to check for errors than beeps 706097;1402079679;mike_c;20 year old dells have those too 706098;1402079730;mircea_popescu;well im just fucking pissed off tbh 706099;1402079742;pankkake;I hate those kind of issues 706100;1402079762;pankkake;one of the reasons I keep plenty of spare hardware 706101;1402079763;fluffypony;the Intel Blue Hills boards in our experimental rigs have a little 2 character LCD display 706102;1402079769;BingoBoingo;"Several years ago, I came across a ranking of careers based on overall desirability. "President of the United States" was somewhere in the lower-middle of the pack, because it offers the most power and prestige, but also has the highest workplace fatality rate, terrible job security, brutal hours, and relatively low wages given what presidential-type people could earn on the open market." 706103;1402079776;fluffypony;much more helpful than POST beeps 706104;1402079809;jurov;o looky someone needs trusted hardware monkey too 706105;1402079821;pankkake;wait, is it beeeeep bip beeeeeep or beeeep beeeep beeeeep?! 706106;1402079823;mike_c;BingoBoingo: that's just the published wages though 706107;1402079850;chetty;mine did that long beep, resetting memory fixed it 706108;1402079862;mircea_popescu;it does *silence* 706109;1402079877;mike_c;that means it's the NIC. 706110;1402079889;chetty;well I had silence too, before I hooked up the speaker for that 706111;1402079896;mircea_popescu;i hooked up my speaker 706112;1402079899;mircea_popescu;silence both wsays 706113;1402079920;mircea_popescu;what do you mean it's the nic ?! 706114;1402079945;mike_c;silence = nic. beeeep bip beeep = memory. beeeeep beeeeep beeeeep = power supply 706115;1402079949;BingoBoingo;mike_c: You also have to consider the 18% workplace mortality rate... 706116;1402079960;mike_c;but it depends on the model of motherboard 706117;1402079973;mircea_popescu;mike_c, are you serious ?! who even cares if the on board lan card works ?! 706118;1402079974;mike_c;(and i'm just kidding) 706119;1402079980;mircea_popescu;aok 706120;1402079980;MarcSummers;huh 706121;1402080047;jurov;BingoBoingo: today the potus was in normandy on 70th anniversary, with putin, merkel, queen elizabeth and everyone, live tv.. i thought it would be the best setup for alien strike, but sadly nothing such happened 706122;1402080061;mike_c;BingoBoingo: plus it's gotta take significant years off your life even if it doesn't kill you in office. 706123;1402080091;BingoBoingo;jurov: Why would the Aliens strike the Queen, she's one of theirs... 706124;1402080286;jurov;i'd think there's agreement against top honchos of earth to be in one place 706125;1402080297;jurov;but then, mircea is safe in BA 706126;1402080371;mircea_popescu;im fucking unsafe, aparently someone's burning obscure bits off my hardware with a magical death ray 706127;1402080386;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ECNH5A.txt ) 706128;1402080386;BingoBoingo;!b 6 706129;1402080428;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/military-color-guard-assigned-to-march-in-gay-pride-par-1587154288 706130;1402080429;assbot;Military Color Guard Assigned to March in Gay Pride Parade 706131;1402080540;pankkake;actually I remember a bug with NICs, where you had to unplug the computer for a few minutes to fix it (because it would force firmware reloading) 706132;1402080565;pankkake;and by unplug I mean really unplug, as the PSU would be still feeding the motherboard 706133;1402080594;ThickAsThieves;dead video card? 706134;1402080669;danielpbarron;<+mircea_popescu> who the fuck ever heard of this. << I had a similar experience with the old hardware that's been collecting dust in my room for the last 10 years 706135;1402080690;fluffypony;danielpbarron: you may need to get your room cleaned more often 706136;1402080729;mircea_popescu;did danielpbarron just get sent upstairs to clean his room ? 706137;1402080756;BingoBoingo;Yeah 706138;1402080858;danielpbarron;i saved all the old machines i've used over the years, and recently started gutting them for parts to build a full node; glad I didn't throw all that stuff out 706139;1402080988;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642090 706140;1402080988;assbot;Confession of a Degenerate 706141;1402080990;Mats_cd03;lol 706142;1402081042;BingoBoingo;Fucking Klye 706143;1402081066;mike_c;well, at least the money ended up in mpif. 706144;1402081072;pankkake;:D 706145;1402081091;BingoBoingo;"Suddenly everything I had been planning, all of what I was working towards, All of the investment I had sworn to use for good.. 706146;1402081091;BingoBoingo;It crashed.. I went from 24 BTC down to 10 before I even stopped hitting the "lo" key on my martingale. 706147;1402081091;BingoBoingo;My heart sunk in my chest and I felt an unexplainable/unbearable pressure in my chest. 706148;1402081091;BingoBoingo;It was at that moment I realized that I had fucked over not only my investors, but myself and my reputation. 706149;1402081093;BingoBoingo;Frantically I began betting with the 10 BTC... Trying to recoup the loses I had just endured.. 706150;1402081094;Mats_cd03;Fucking loled hard 706151;1402081095;BingoBoingo;This was all in vain however, I watched my balance drop like a stone in a pond.. I remember as the balance hit zero.. 706152;1402081098;BingoBoingo;My feeble attempts to recover the BTC were met with tears shortly after it sunk in what I had just done. 706153;1402081101;BingoBoingo;The feeling was worse than anything you could possibly imagine.. Akin to losing a family member or worse." -MrKlye 706154;1402081115;assbot;Last 14 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1G8KPW4.txt ) 706155;1402081115;BingoBoingo;!b 14 706156;1402081125;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 706157;1402081125;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.35662385 BTC; +3.01016512 BTC (+1.7988%) since last check 2d 17h 37m 39s ago. 706158;1402081133;BingoBoingo;!jd 706159;1402081133;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 18377 BTC profit, 42.5k BTC invested, 1230.98 mio bets, 5.28 mio BTC wagered 706160;1402081163;jurov;one should do it like rg did.. martingaled satoshidice for lunch 706161;1402081177;jurov;then either asked someone to order it for him or was left hungry 706162;1402081181;fluffypony;what in fuck is wrong with these people 706163;1402081186;mircea_popescu;lmao 706164;1402081213;mircea_popescu;"This is a massive set back, which is entirely my fault. 706165;1402081214;mircea_popescu;I will continue to try to try and develop Klyemax and get revenue streams flowing. 706166;1402081222;mircea_popescu;so he's going to continue pestering the waitresses. 706167;1402081232;mircea_popescu;"yo bitch! wanna make some motherfuckin' money ? " 706168;1402081233;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3B6A6VR.txt ) 706169;1402081233;BingoBoingo;!b 3 706170;1402081243;fluffypony;yeah that was classic 706171;1402081244;fluffypony;"Most of which were used to purchase miners or cashed out and spent on drinks and VLT gambling at a local pub where I was attempting to get the waitresses to come work for me." 706172;1402081252;fluffypony;hey baby, baby, you want to be famous? 706173;1402081255;mircea_popescu;guy's waitress harem. 706174;1402081279;mircea_popescu;;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com klye harem 706175;1402081280;gribble;NEXT: 04-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 03-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 07-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: 706176;1402081286;kakobrekla;"yo bitch! wanna make some motherfuckin'* money ? " *virtual 706177;1402081306;BingoBoingo;I swear the most useful side effect of recommending a 6 month reading and waiting period is to sort out the fucking Dice addicts. 706178;1402081349;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-05-2014#658076 706179;1402081349;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 706180;1402081352;mircea_popescu;kinda relevant 706181;1402081372;kakobrekla;in the spirit of previous killing babies convo, you should send newbs directly to just-dice and see who comes out alive 706182;1402081380;kakobrekla;also raise the mpif stake inthere meantime. 706183;1402081399;fluffypony;I tried gambling when I was younger - read a bunch of books on playing Blackjack, played a whole lot of games against the computer, and then went to the casino with my $300 706184;1402081404;mike_c;srsly though, mpif nav is about to bust through the asks on the order book. 706185;1402081416;mike_c;get yer buy on! 706186;1402081419;fluffypony;managed to win a few hands and build that up to $600, was super proud of myself 706187;1402081423;fluffypony;and then lost it all 706188;1402081428;fluffypony;went and drew another $300 706189;1402081431;mircea_popescu;on cock-tail waitresses ? 706190;1402081438;fluffypony;and as I sat at the table I was like "what in actual fuck. this is such a scam" 706191;1402081439;punkman;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625220.msg7108811#msg7108811 706192;1402081439;assbot;Klyemax Studios Official (Cock) Tattoo (NSFW) 706193;1402081440;fluffypony;and I walked away 706194;1402081450;fluffypony;first and last time 706195;1402081462;mike_c;thank you assbot, for keeping me from clicking that link. 706196;1402081467;mircea_popescu;this klye thing is too good, i guess ima make an adnotated version. 706197;1402081526;Apocalyptic;how much did he manage to raise btw ? 706198;1402081543;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: You miss the point of casino blackjack 706199;1402081552;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: 25 BTC 706200;1402081554;mircea_popescu;25 btc apparently. 706201;1402081593;Apocalyptic;hum, so clueless wannabe investor's pool hasn't dried up yet 706202;1402081611;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: The point of casino blackjack is to try to lose less money while getting the complimentary drinks that you would have spent on the drinks. 706203;1402081618;fluffypony;hah hah 706204;1402081646;fluffypony;I kept not having drinks because I was worried I wouldn't be able to concentrate 706205;1402081681;mike_c;it has been scientifically proven that people believe they play better when tipsy. so drink up. 706206;1402081681;Mats_cd03;blackjack is predicated on your teammates not being fucking dumb 706207;1402081690;BingoBoingo;Seriously just buy ~$1000 in chips to just sit in front of you and play with a $100 bankroll from that pile. And watch the drinks come in. 706208;1402081755;mike_c;this guy is canadien, right? why do all these idiots sound like yoda? "Terribly saddened I am by what has gone on." 706209;1402081795;Mats_cd03;poor training in english 706210;1402081812;mike_c;omg. this was FOUR HOURS before the confession: 706211;1402081814;mike_c;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg7166297#msg7166297 706212;1402081815;assbot;Pictures of your mining rigs! 706213;1402081858;BingoBoingo;Anyone else remember the KingofSPorts lolcow who got 1BTC from dooglus for writing a confessional about his gambling everything all the time and landing in rehab? 706214;1402081859;fluffypony;what is this obsession with buying mining equipment 706215;1402081868;*;fluffypony proudly owns exactly 0 aspics 706216;1402081889;mircea_popescu;ass pics ? lol 706217;1402081892;mircea_popescu;i got trillionz 706218;1402081913;fluffypony;hahh hah 706219;1402081916;fluffypony;thanks autocorrect 706220;1402081982;pankkake;antennas?! 706221;1402081993;mircea_popescu;"well i have a lots of tattoo the wings is spreading all over my chest and make it more bigger than the actual size and its very painful specialy when the needles hit my upper cleavage all the way down to the half of my boobs " 706222;1402082071;benkay;"recuperate the funds" 706223;1402082091;fluffypony;dooglus is going to have to remove his positive trust rating, lol 706224;1402082119;fluffypony;lol 706225;1402082121;fluffypony;"Canadian Version of Amir Taaki." 706226;1402082227;mircea_popescu;"To all investors, I sincerely appologize for misusing the funds you have trusted me with. 706227;1402082227;mircea_popescu;It was never my intention to use the funds as I did, I had plans and budgets developed for them." 706228;1402082246;mircea_popescu;halmark of the forum ceo : does thinks he had no intention of doing. 706229;1402082294;BingoBoingo;%diff 706230;1402082296;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 173891.58 in 1948 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -75.69 706231;1402082308;mircea_popescu;" 706232;1402082308;mircea_popescu;As stated before I will continue to pay out dividends to all invested. Thoughts of suicide have crossed my mind more than a few times in the past week but I am unable to leave my investors high and dry due to my lack of control." 706233;1402082314;mircea_popescu;dividends ?! but... how? 706234;1402082361;benkay;;;ticker 706235;1402082363;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 651.19, Best ask: 652.75, Bid-ask spread: 1.56000, Last trade: 652.75, 24 hour volume: 6294.08765735, 24 hour low: 647.86, 24 hour high: 664.97, 24 hour vwap: 658.892216932 706236;1402082368;benkay;;;calc 700 * 25 706237;1402082369;gribble;17500 706238;1402082376;benkay;suicide? 706239;1402082378;benkay;20k? 706240;1402082380;benkay;get a job. 706241;1402082396;Apocalyptic;As BayAreaCoin says 706242;1402082398;Apocalyptic;"Solo cam 8hrs a day blah blah blah" 706243;1402082404;BingoBoingo;%ticker 706244;1402082405;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 256 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 191k High: 256 Low: 150 VWAP: 223 706245;1402082980;BingoBoingo;http://jalopnik.com/army-vet-claims-scam-after-ferrari-impounded-for-not-be-1587161700 706246;1402082981;assbot;Army Vet Claims Scam After Ferrari Impounded For Not Being U.S. Spec 706247;1402083024;thestringpuller;;;ticker 706248;1402083026;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 650.94, Best ask: 653.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.06000, Last trade: 650.94, 24 hour volume: 6351.61154980, 24 hour low: 647.86, 24 hour high: 664.97, 24 hour vwap: 658.892216932 706249;1402083153;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/H6pKYrc.jpg 706250;1402083261;kakobrekla;*drumroll* 706251;1402083262;kakobrekla;!mpif 706252;1402083263;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 BTC (Total: 433.94 BTC) 706253;1402083264;kakobrekla;tba 706254;1402083266;kakobrekla;bah 706255;1402083269;kakobrekla;thanks to mike_c . 706256;1402083289;BingoBoingo;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/06/06/1757210/xanadu-software-released-after-54-years-in-the-making 706257;1402083291;assbot;Xanadu Software Released After 54 Years In the Making - Slashdot 706258;1402083291;mike_c;w00t. thx kako. 706259;1402083301;BingoBoingo;Sweet work kakobrekla 706260;1402083315;kakobrekla;mike did the heavy lifting 706261;1402083338;thestringpuller;thanks mike_c 706262;1402083540;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9145 @ 0.000857 = 7.8373 BTC [+] 706263;1402083570;thestringpuller;!ticker m F.MPIF 706264;1402083570;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 (4601 shares, 1.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 706265;1402083601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02343695 = 0.1641 BTC [-] 706266;1402083640;kakobrekla;;;calc [!mpif --nav] - [!ticker m FMPIF --last] 706267;1402083641;gribble;Error: "!mpif" is not a valid command. 706268;1402083643;kakobrekla;dammit. 706269;1402083726;kakobrekla;sorry i got it now 706270;1402083745;kakobrekla;;;calc (- [!mpif --nav] [!ticker m FMPIF --last]) 706271;1402083745;gribble;Error: "!mpif" is not a valid command. 706272;1402084211;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 330 @ 0.07493866 = 24.7298 BTC [+] {3} 706273;1402084333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00085651 = 16.7019 BTC [-] {2} 706274;1402085230;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Is it possible your flying problem beast suspects the transformer is either a buffet, or porn? 706275;1402085287;mike_c;oh, interesting. animal kingdom becomes interested after sola arrives. 706276;1402085326;mike_c;must be humming at the right frequency. 706277;1402085492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.NSA] 9879 @ 0.00013 = 1.2843 BTC [-] 706278;1402085530;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/statuses/474974357077643264 706279;1402085531;assbot;Twitter / nowthisnews: For the first time in history ... 706280;1402085552;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/CIA/status/474971393852182528 706281;1402085554;assbot;We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet. 706282;1402085587;mike_c;that is actually funny. 706283;1402085887;fluffypony;this is great: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140602.png 706284;1402086279;FabianB;!jd mpif 706285;1402086279;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.36972219 BTC; +0.01309834 BTC (+0.0077%) since last check 1h 25m 54s ago. 706286;1402086285;FabianB;!mpif 706287;1402086287;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 BTC (Total: 433.95 BTC) 706288;1402086363;FabianB;!t m F.MPIF 706289;1402086363;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 (4601 shares, 1.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 706290;1402086385;FabianB;!t m S.BBET 706291;1402086386;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00047 / 0.00047388 / 0.000481 (5148 shares, 2.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00049732 / 0.000525 (55856 shares, 27.78 BTC) 706292;1402086397;thestringpuller;mike_c: your feed is better than OneFixt 706293;1402086397;thestringpuller;lol 706294;1402086422;mike_c;i don't know what OneFixt is, but thanks! 706295;1402086483;FabianB;a technical trader in -analysis 706296;1402086514;mike_c;ah 706297;1402086592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0730004 = 0.73 BTC [-] 706298;1402086653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11993 @ 0.000857 = 10.278 BTC [+] 706299;1402087446;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22050101 BTC [-] 706300;1402087507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.220501 BTC [-] 706301;1402087568;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0234 = 0.234 BTC [-] 706302;1402087629;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0749799 = 0.4499 BTC [+] 706303;1402087812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00085873 = 10.2618 BTC [+] {2} 706304;1402087824;mike_c;http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1525986/all-glitters-businessman-who-bought-hk27m-gold-ends-metal-bars 706305;1402087826;assbot;All that glitters: businessman 'who bought HK$270m of gold' ends up with metal bars | South China Morning Post 706306;1402087940;mircea_popescu;wait, just like germany ? 706307;1402087952;mike_c;they didn't even get metal bars 706308;1402087975;mircea_popescu;ah 706309;1402087983;mircea_popescu;so he did better than govt. businessman indeed. 706310;1402088056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00085944 = 3.6956 BTC [+] {2} 706311;1402088117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2595 BTC [+] 706312;1402088254;mircea_popescu; http://i.imgur.com/H6pKYrc.jpg << humans are born an ddie women 706313;1402088260;mircea_popescu;manhood happens briefly in the middle there 706314;1402088275;mircea_popescu; !mpif << sweet. 706315;1402088338;mircea_popescu;jdice 170 holy sheit 706316;1402088343;FabianB;anyone understands the mechanics behind fiat banks parking big integers at the ecb and why they would pay a fee for it? is storing these integers in their own systems more expensive? 706317;1402088422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 162.69600384 BTC to 77`492 shares, 209952 satoshi per share 706318;1402088441;mircea_popescu;FabianB, because in order for fractional reserve to work, banks have to have some fractoion deposited with central bank. 706319;1402088455;mircea_popescu;they eat a -.1% on 20% so they may make 8% pon 80% or w/e it is they make 706320;1402088484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0730007 = 0.73 BTC [-] 706321;1402088496;FabianB;hm 706322;1402088515;mircea_popescu;(that's a summary. the reality is more complex but not substantially different) 706323;1402088544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5000 @ 0.00029106 = 1.4553 BTC [+] {8} 706324;1402088586;mircea_popescu;sadly i lack a cutter shop in this part of the world, so we'll never know if mike_c had it and the mobos had stuff added. 706325;1402088632;mircea_popescu;visual inspection doesnt yield anything interesting 706326;1402088686;FabianB;makes sense to eat a loss for the smaller part, gotta think about it why fractional reserve is needed when you have too much capital anyway 706327;1402088704;jurov;!mpif 706328;1402088705;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 BTC (Total: 433.95 BTC) 706329;1402088709;mircea_popescu;too much capital ? you gotta be kidding 706330;1402088717;mircea_popescu;eu banks currently lack about 3.5 trn 706331;1402088722;Apocalyptic;^ 706332;1402088766;FabianB;not capital, liquidity 706333;1402088783;mircea_popescu;no. actual capital. 706334;1402088788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07459067 = 0.7459 BTC [+] {3} 706335;1402088795;FabianB;i mean i used the wrong word 706336;1402088837;FabianB;they store their excess liquidity at the ecb 706337;1402088861;jurov;how's that? they bought shitty bonds for 3.5trn? 706338;1402088899;mircea_popescu;not bonds per se. 706339;1402088912;mike_c;no one told them that triple A mortgage bonds were worthless. 706340;1402088924;mircea_popescu;just, general underwriting. 706341;1402088972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0744999 = 0.447 BTC [-] 706342;1402089069;jurov;bash flushed 706343;1402089075;mircea_popescu;o you be mod ? 706344;1402089093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07460095 = 0.5222 BTC [+] {3} 706345;1402089095;jurov;:] 706346;1402089100;mircea_popescu;cool 706347;1402089152;mircea_popescu;the chines ehave found the cheapest allow that's still "metal" 706348;1402089154;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0745 = 0.149 BTC [-] 706349;1402089165;mircea_popescu;the guts of current pc cases are so soft they bend more than pcbs 706350;1402089215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0745 = 0.149 BTC [-] 706351;1402089318;mike_c;;;calc (1 / 2000000) + 0.00021697 706352;1402089318;gribble;0.00021747 706353;1402089440;fluffypony;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/06/backers_buy_in_to_uber_at_17_beeellion_valuation/ 706354;1402089440;assbot;UBER UBER ALLES: Investors value ride app at $17 BEEELLION The Register 706355;1402089449;fluffypony;of course Uber is worth $17 billion 706356;1402089452;fluffypony;I can totally see that 706357;1402089480;fluffypony;PS. I'm valuing my next company at $1 billion despite it having accomplished very little and/or nothing 706358;1402089504;mircea_popescu;wads 706359;1402089508;mircea_popescu;wasnt wats up 21bn ? 706360;1402089517;mike_c;uber has done more than most. getting operations in place in so many cities/countries is not trivial. 706361;1402089535;mike_c;they have to fight the taxi commission everywhere they go 706362;1402089540;mircea_popescu;mike_c, whats your def of "operations| ? 706363;1402089554;BingoBoingo;Hiring existing livery companies 706364;1402089565;BingoBoingo;Paying them to expand 706365;1402089601;BingoBoingo;Beyond that Uber just seems to have an App 706366;1402089660;mike_c;you don't think they have their own staff all over the place? 706367;1402089667;mike_c;obv not drivers 706368;1402089686;BingoBoingo;Sure, they have a call center. 706369;1402089705;BingoBoingo;Most of Uber though is simply outsourcing to existing operators. 706370;1402089764;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00007351 = 0.147 BTC [-] 706371;1402089825;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00085864 = 19.4911 BTC [-] {2} 706372;1402089844;BingoBoingo;And on that note I'm off. 706373;1402090037;mike_c;are you fking kidding me. halep in the finals?? 706374;1402090070;Apocalyptic;hehe 706375;1402090080;Apocalyptic;It reminded me of mircea when I heard the news 706376;1402090191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.073 = 0.73 BTC [-] 706377;1402090253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0745 = 0.5215 BTC [+] 706378;1402090254;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00007351 = 0.1103 BTC [-] 706379;1402090355;mircea_popescu; you don't think they have their own staff all over the place? << perhaps you grossly overestimate what that's worth. 706380;1402090363;mircea_popescu;i also have my own staff all over the place 706381;1402090378;mike_c;not what it's worth, i was just saying they've put in more work than most. 706382;1402090405;mircea_popescu;a that. yes, easily granted. 706383;1402090411;mircea_popescu;most just get the ap and aws instances. 706384;1402090466;mircea_popescu;but you know, coca-cola (100bn in assets or so) has... factories all over the place. 706385;1402090476;mike_c;clearly you have staff in france.. top 3 seeds out at garros?? halep in the finals?? 706386;1402090478;mircea_popescu;and that does mean everywhere, turkmenistan and ghana are equally covered 706387;1402090492;mircea_popescu;mike_c, i just tend to bet on the right tits. 706388;1402090557;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.07242624 = 1.9555 BTC [-] {5} 706389;1402090576;mircea_popescu;here's a true story. when i was in hs they had a sort of homecoming thing, picking teh prettiest chick at the party. as a personal favour, tehy were going to proclaim the chick i went with miss our highschool. 706390;1402090579;mike_c;yeah. but uber has some possibilities because they aren't fucking sharing photos. they are selling taxi rides. 706391;1402090581;mircea_popescu;except... she wasn't going there. 706392;1402090631;mike_c;my wife was miss-her-high-school. 706393;1402090656;mircea_popescu;o hey. 706394;1402090667;mike_c;just sayin.. i married up. 706395;1402090714;mircea_popescu;lol 706396;1402090721;mircea_popescu;dun worry, looks don't last. 706397;1402090740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07100001 = 0.781 BTC [-] {2} 706398;1402090783;mike_c;yeah, another 20 years and she will be the lucky one :) 706399;1402090801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07233393 = 0.217 BTC [+] {2} 706400;1402090874;mike_c;by the way, this fking halep thing exposes another great money maker. Bettors clearly undervalue low probability events. 706401;1402090893;mike_c;not one person other than mp bet on halep. 706402;1402091439;mircea_popescu;i think few people actually knew her back story. 706403;1402091456;mircea_popescu;a woman willing to part with a juicy set of hooters just to play tennis well probably will train harder than your average. 706404;1402091536;*;asciilifeform went to visit meatspace people, came back, bird... still working. 706405;1402091557;mircea_popescu;dude shoot it already 706406;1402091594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26088709 BTC [+] 706407;1402091597;asciilifeform;clever bugger knows exactly where to go 706408;1402091609;*;asciilifeform reads logs, no doubt missed all the good stuff 706409;1402091716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5427 @ 0.00086131 = 4.6743 BTC [+] 706410;1402091778;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14953 @ 0.00085744 = 12.8213 BTC [-] {2} 706411;1402091841;benkay;re uber: it's the perfect way to roll out a robo-fleet 706412;1402091868;other_mp;hm, so you can actually have multiple accounts id'dasthesame gpg id ?! 706413;1402091902;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu, other_mp: ...board ignores atx shutdown << cpu is stopped 706414;1402091925;other_mp;asciilifeform nah, cpu fan carried on 706415;1402091933;asciilifeform;fan yes, cpu no 706416;1402091944;other_mp;so board is shot basically 706417;1402091949;asciilifeform;fan is normally hardwired to +12v 706418;1402091963;asciilifeform;dollars to doughnuts, bad vreg 706419;1402091968;mike_c;;;ident other_mp 706420;1402091969;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'other_mp', with hostmask 'other_mp!~Mircea@190.172.18.16', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 706421;1402091981;other_mp;;;ident mircea_popescu 706422;1402091981;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~satoshi@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 706423;1402091996;asciilifeform;either that or mp has defective u.s. implant and i have a defective nsa camerabird. 706424;1402092019;jborkl;sup ladies 706425;1402092021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 12.01217590 BTC to 29`438 shares, 40805 satoshi per share 706426;1402092062;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo, mike_c: transformer/bird hypothesis: beautiful, but one problem. wrong room. 706427;1402092143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 261 @ 0.00300101 = 0.7833 BTC [-] {3} 706428;1402092208;other_mp;so from my local newspaper (which helpfully includes three pages of stock and equity listings, you should see these things) : 706429;1402092220;other_mp;cayeron 2% las escrituraciones de abril. 706430;1402092257;other_mp;las operaciones de compraventa de inmuebles durante abril en la ciudad de buenos aires alcanzaron las 2681 operaciones por un monto de $2000 miliones 706431;1402092265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07299714 = 0.876 BTC [+] {2} 706432;1402092316;other_mp;en la comparacion interanual, las escrituras se redujeron 2.1% y de acuerdo al colegio de escribanos, la cantidad total aumeno un 20.6% respecto del mes anterior que registro 2223 706433;1402092345;other_mp;basically, they had 2.5k building sales in april for an average value per building of 706434;1402092356;other_mp;;;calc 2000 / 2681 706435;1402092356;gribble;0.745990302126 706436;1402092360;other_mp;750k per. 706437;1402092458;other_mp;what does the esteemed chan think, mike_c, fluffypony, los_pantalones : am i fucking insane to contemplate a ba real estate investment vehicle for btc ? 706438;1402092480;mike_c;yes 706439;1402092531;mike_c;i don't speak spanish, but i doubt that said "10x in a year" 706440;1402092553;other_mp;btc wasn;t 50 bux in 2013. 706441;1402092581;other_mp;for that matter, btc was 1.2k in jan 706442;1402092627;mike_c;btc actually was 50 bux in 2013 706443;1402092697;other_mp;moar like 100 i thought 706444;1402092707;mike_c;last time it was 50 was mid-march 2013 706445;1402092747;other_mp;http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=bitstampUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=360&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& << admirable how glued to 100 it stayed, after the april events. 706446;1402092845;benkay;residential, other_mp ? 706447;1402092863;other_mp;i don't know enough about the market to even guess. 706448;1402092886;other_mp;more interested to settle theprinciple first, then maybe more canbe squeezed from such optimisations 706449;1402092932;mike_c;to put this in perspective. it's August 2013. price is $100. "the price was $240 in april, hasn't moved in months" 706450;1402092987;benkay;my intel suggests that residential is not a good play. not enough buyers to support the market, too much inventory to support rents at a rate that accomodates inflation, plus buyers favor newer properties over anything else 706451;1402092997;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0730007 = 0.146 BTC [+] 706452;1402093044;benkay;there is the thing called buying the hole, where you buy a building or some fraction thereof during/prior to construction for some 30% discount. whether or not the position is liquidatable later, i cannot speak to. 706453;1402093066;benkay;commercial otoh rents for acceptable rates/ 706454;1402093093;other_mp;benkay you can generally get about 1 dollar / sqft out of tourists/foreigners from what i see. 706455;1402093106;other_mp;it doesn't cost you 20 dollars/sqft to acquirethe space. 706456;1402093117;benkay;occupancy rate 706457;1402093130;benkay;cost per acquisition 706458;1402093139;other_mp;i intend to import as many sane people as possible. 706459;1402093153;other_mp;mike_c very hard to argue with that. 706460;1402093170;asciilifeform;isn't ar one of those places where they love expropriation/dekulakization? 706461;1402093181;other_mp;asciilifeform nope. 706462;1402093181;benkay;not that i'm terribly sane, but i'm working on it 706463;1402093187;other_mp;you should see the jewish section btw. 706464;1402093223;benkay;expropriation happens with oil deposits in ars, from what i've heard. 706465;1402093241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0730008 = 0.146 BTC [+] 706466;1402093242;other_mp;mike_c especially cxonsideringthe sinergies involved. a successful plata valley would by and of itself drive up btc price, hurting the very thing that made it possible 706467;1402093251;asciilifeform;benkay: so drill first, if dry -> safe ? 706468;1402093262;mike_c;heh, yeah. 706469;1402093273;mike_c;kinda like using btc to develop quantum computers that destroy btc 706470;1402093283;other_mp;what would you have me do ;/ 706471;1402093313;mike_c;what, you got too much time on your hands? 706472;1402093313;asciilifeform;hurting the very thing that made it possible << thermodynamics suggests that this is kinda inevitable for just about anything worthwhile 706473;1402093321;other_mp;exactly. 706474;1402093330;benkay;plata valley? 706475;1402093339;other_mp;yes. silicon is on the outs. 706476;1402093356;benkay;ah i see. 706477;1402093392;other_mp;theory being that the real estate problems of san francisco today result from poor historical management 706478;1402093407;benkay;low density? 706479;1402093412;other_mp;perhaps had the whole thing been managed by a corp into which the inerested parties could buy interest 706480;1402093418;other_mp;things'd have worked better 706481;1402093425;other_mp;trying to explore this theory. 706482;1402093441;benkay;envisioning a walled compound in bsas? 706483;1402093445;asciilifeform;relevant: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014&bots=true#607608 706484;1402093446;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 706485;1402093447;other_mp;why walled ? 706486;1402093462;other_mp;it's unsanitary for you to not be periodically raped. 706487;1402093464;benkay;thinking about previous comments re nazis 706488;1402093483;other_mp;how's that thinking go ? 706489;1402093485;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00085514 = 5.3874 BTC [-] 706490;1402093489;benkay;well poorly 706491;1402093493;asciilifeform;afaik the nazitowns weren't walled in 706492;1402093495;other_mp;lmao 706493;1402093498;asciilifeform;(what's there now?) 706494;1402093508;benkay;ibid the memory-ing 706495;1402093533;other_mp;mike_c does it sound any saner now ? 706496;1402093546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0730009 = 0.511 BTC [+] 706497;1402093551;benkay;brains a little fried from an afternoon of porking and lifting 706498;1402093557;mike_c;but it's still an expense, not an investment 706499;1402093563;other_mp;porking = sex ? 706500;1402093569;benkay;mhm 706501;1402093578;other_mp;mike_c if the expense saves 2x the expense for 100 different peopel 706502;1402093583;other_mp;then the word for that expense is investment 706503;1402093607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.072 = 0.72 BTC [-] 706504;1402093609;mike_c;right, but if that money could have grown 10x instead of 2x.. 706505;1402093618;mike_c;it's a fiat investment, not a btc investment 706506;1402093631;other_mp;yes dude but we can't plant all farmland with pot. 706507;1402093661;other_mp;munchies of doom 706508;1402093667;mike_c;that's fine, but don't tel me that growing corn instead of pot is an investment 706509;1402093678;mike_c;it may be an appropriate expense, but still an expense. 706510;1402093681;other_mp;i don't lol. monsanto does. 706511;1402093712;asciilifeform;m doesn't grow corn, it grows w0rldd0mination 706512;1402093730;asciilifeform;the chumpers grow the 'corn' 706513;1402093748;other_mp;;;google adm 706514;1402093748;gribble;ADM: Home: ; ADM: Careers: ; Archer Daniels Midland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 706515;1402093841;other_mp;90bn revenue on 40bn assets. 706516;1402093935;mike_c;40b assets + 23b liabilities, but still, that's impressive. 706517;1402093971;mike_c;oh, nevermind. 1.3 bn in income. 706518;1402093976;mike_c;keep your corn. 706519;1402093987;other_mp;hehehe 706520;1402094035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0721021 = 0.3605 BTC [-] 706521;1402094036;other_mp;but are they investments or are they expenses. 706522;1402094066;mike_c;lots of investments in the world. t-bills are an investment. 706523;1402094076;mike_c;i wouldn't sink any btc into them 706524;1402094084;other_mp;myeah 706525;1402094136;mike_c;I used to think bitbet was an investment until halep pranced her way into the finals. 706526;1402094141;other_mp;lol 706527;1402094169;BingoBoingo;ADM basically runs on the Uber model, little actual infrastructure (a few hub) and a lot of subcontractors. 706528;1402094178;other_mp;BingoBoingo yup. 706529;1402094200;other_mp;a lot of those big bn figures are various consolidations 706530;1402094239;*;BingoBoingo has seen the ADM elevators on the Mississippi coast of Western IL 706531;1402094384;BingoBoingo;ADM is basically a bank whose currency is grain 706532;1402094387;other_mp;mike_c sometimes i suspect your investment philosophy is roughly the equivalent of the kid that'll only eat cake. 706533;1402094400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2696768 = 2.6968 BTC [+] {8} 706534;1402094403;ThickAsThieves;in case anyone is interested, maybe asciilifeform https://github.com/blockerupter 706535;1402094403;assbot;Block Erupter GitHub 706536;1402094426;ThickAsThieves;AsicMiner's reference design 706537;1402094439;ThickAsThieves;board 706538;1402094440;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: no useful src there (for core) 706539;1402094461;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.2940617 = 8.5278 BTC [+] {12} 706540;1402094468;ThickAsThieves;word 706541;1402094498;mike_c;if you have identified a small set of awesome investments, why would you put money in something else that is worse? 706542;1402094506;mike_c;cake is goood 706543;1402094522;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26092857 BTC [-] 706544;1402094549;BingoBoingo;!mpif 706545;1402094551;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021705 BTC (Total: 434.12 BTC) 706546;1402094563;BingoBoingo;!t m f.mpif 706547;1402094563;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 706548;1402094603;mike_c;unless of course, you have too much money. in which case I recommend reading this article: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ 706549;1402094604;assbot;The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 706550;1402094644;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07210555 = 0.7211 BTC [+] 706551;1402094705;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.02382848 = 0.3336 BTC [+] {5} 706552;1402094763;mircea_popescu;well, because if there isn't a universe available and everyone rides on thesame pole we'll sink. 706553;1402094824;mircea_popescu;consider : if only the things that you'd invest in existed, what would you do for food ? 706554;1402094831;mike_c;there is a universe available. some people buy t-bills. 706555;1402094861;mike_c;and some people buy RENT 706556;1402094877;mike_c;!t h RENT 706557;1402094878;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00379000 / 0.00384114 / 0.00449999 (205 shares, 0.78743415 BTC), 7D: 0.00280000 / 0.00375268 / 0.00470000 (1999 shares, 7.50160646 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.00538448 / 0.00710000 (6959 shares, 37.47058930 BTC) 706558;1402094903;BingoBoingo;;;bc, stats 706559;1402094904;gribble;Error: "bc," is not a valid command. 706560;1402094912;mike_c;all I'm saying, is that if you create a BA REIT, it will decline in BTC value over the next couple years. 706561;1402094956;mike_c;and i'd be happy to bitbet back that opinion up :) 706562;1402094962;thestringpuller;mike_c: will you ever review any mining investments? 706563;1402094996;mike_c;thestringpuller: i've looked into some. but it's hard to find any worth reviewing. 706564;1402095020;mircea_popescu;mike_c couple of years is no concern, i don't see how one could fit all the required research in one year. 706565;1402095027;mircea_popescu;how about the next five years ? 706566;1402095048;thestringpuller;wow it's that bad huh? 706567;1402095053;thestringpuller;@ mike_c 706568;1402095065;mike_c;mircea_popescu: when would you make the first purchase? 706569;1402095086;mircea_popescu;2 years +- 6 months i guess 706570;1402095102;mircea_popescu;"during 2016" 706571;1402095106;mike_c;hard to say then.. would need crystal ball. 706572;1402095123;mircea_popescu;interesting. 706573;1402095133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0281025 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {2} 706574;1402095145;mike_c;but my guess is it wouldn't change 706575;1402095157;mircea_popescu;what, it just goes to the moon perpetually ? 706576;1402095160;mike_c;what is BTC stabilization point? when do we get there? I don't think 2016 706577;1402095172;mike_c;obviously $8bn is a joke. it can't stay there. 706578;1402095191;mircea_popescu;what's 8 bn ? 706579;1402095196;mike_c;current mkt cap 706580;1402095230;benkay;;;ticker 706581;1402095241;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 648.83, Best ask: 653.26, Bid-ask spread: 4.43000, Last trade: 648.7, 24 hour volume: 6528.19016546, 24 hour low: 647.21, 24 hour high: 664.5, 24 hour vwap: 0 706582;1402095242;benkay;is there a gribble command to get issued coins? 706583;1402095249;mircea_popescu;"it was only sometime between 1910 and 1912 ...that a random patient, with a random disease, consulting a doctor chosen at random, had, for the first time in the history of mankind, a better than 50-50 chance of profiting from the encounter." 706584;1402095255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 108 @ 0.00187577 = 0.2026 BTC [+] {7} 706585;1402095256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0744998 = 0.5215 BTC [+] 706586;1402095269;mike_c;;;calc 12864025 * [ticker --last] 706587;1402095280;gribble;8347465822.5 706588;1402095291;mike_c;$8.3 bn 706589;1402095378;mircea_popescu;obviously it won't stay here. 706590;1402095393;mike_c;;;calc 35274*170000*1200 706591;1402095393;gribble;7195896000000 706592;1402095399;mike_c;that's how much all the gold is worth 706593;1402095429;benkay;mike_c: where'd you get 12864025? 706594;1402095433;mircea_popescu;i doubt that's relevant. 706595;1402095439;mike_c;benkay: blockr.io 706596;1402095441;mircea_popescu;20x world gdp seems the measure to me 706597;1402095494;mike_c;so you say $2 trillion, gold is worth $7 trillion, so let's say btc is going to be worth $1 trillion 706598;1402095520;mike_c;;;calc 20000000 / 1e12 706599;1402095520;gribble;Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 706600;1402095522;mircea_popescu;let's say "trillions" and be happy 706601;1402095544;mircea_popescu;;;totalbtc 706602;1402095544;gribble;Error: "totalbtc" is not a valid command. 706603;1402095554;mircea_popescu;;;totalbc 706604;1402095554;gribble;12864125.0 706605;1402095556;mircea_popescu;aok 706606;1402095584;mircea_popescu;benkay ^ 706607;1402095590;mike_c;so wtf is that.. $50k btc price? 706608;1402095602;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 706609;1402095604;mike_c;won't be there by 2016 i don't think. 706610;1402095606;gribble;Current Blocks: 304564 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1867 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 3 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11627917352.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.09415 706611;1402095637;mircea_popescu;mike_c why not ? 10x two years. 706612;1402095655;mike_c;maybe, but maybe the last 10x takes a bit longer. hence crystal ball. 706613;1402095681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07256041 = 0.653 BTC [-] 706614;1402095695;mike_c;plus, $50k is 1 trillion. could end up at 2t, or 5t 706615;1402095725;mircea_popescu;i was thinking, stabilisation is prolly between 100k and 1mn 706616;1402095744;mircea_popescu;or, amusingly, at the point where 1 inmueble goes for 1 btc 706617;1402095770;mike_c;at that point, i will invest in the REIT :) 706618;1402095775;asciilifeform;in other news, persistent bird finally appears to have ended up at end of the line - in cat. 706619;1402095789;mike_c;finally. darwin wins. 706620;1402095817;BingoBoingo;Did the cat reveal any odd configurations in the flybeast? 706621;1402095847;asciilifeform;haven't found any remains, so not 100% sure. but thick & contented cat now sitting on the shit perch. 706622;1402095855;mircea_popescu;who was hating on religion earlier ? 706623;1402095859;mircea_popescu;"60 Religion Protects You From Bad Science --Medicine, Expert Problems, and the Rationality of Temples" quoth taleb. 706624;1402095861;mike_c;thestringpuller: there are safer ways to invest in bitcoin difficulty besides mining companies. like x.idiff. way less chance of scam. 706625;1402095864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [-] 706626;1402095876;mircea_popescu;i do believe that' ssound, too. by making people deaf to arguments, religion makes people deaf to bad arguments 706627;1402095892;mircea_popescu;which explains why burka wearing islamic women are not nearly as annoying as reddit dwelling us women. 706628;1402095925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00253949 = 0.2666 BTC [+] 706629;1402095930;mircea_popescu;http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/notebook.htm < sauce 706630;1402095967;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I guess feline disassembly and analysis isn't warranted until it catches another defective flybeast... 706631;1402096119;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/o2HcssV 706632;1402096119;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 706633;1402096151;benkay;bitbet's also a good way to make money on mining without ever touching miners 706634;1402096167;benkay;just lay odds on diff bets as soon as they appear 706635;1402096218;*;benkay goes off to update his oddsheet 706636;1402096310;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: on the contrary, i should like to tame this one. he likes to sit in the window box (once contained plants) near my work room. 706637;1402096312;mike_c;asciilifeform: lol. you need to stitch that as the last frame of your earlier video :) 706638;1402096359;asciilifeform;same animal that appeared to tunnel under house (cat, afaik, cannot actually tunnel) 706639;1402096398;mircea_popescu;cats will dig, sure. 706640;1402096410;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Probably ought to leave it some incentives to continue its air defence mission. 706641;1402096414;asciilifeform;afaik only to bury turd 706642;1402096420;mircea_popescu;not a s proficient as a hound that smelled a rat, but still 706643;1402096424;mircea_popescu;they can digup a mouse 706644;1402096425;asciilifeform;cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel 706645;1402096536;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27988 @ 0.00085423 = 23.9082 BTC [-] {4} 706646;1402096559;asciilifeform;the moral of the story appears to be: 'longcat is long.' 706647;1402096633;ThickAsThieves;ive never seen a cat tunnel, but i also havent been around many outdoor cats 706648;1402096637;asciilifeform;moiety awake? 706649;1402096649;ThickAsThieves;raccoons will do it tho 706650;1402096690;ThickAsThieves;raccoons are like idiot cats 706651;1402096702;mircea_popescu;and more powerful 706652;1402096791;mircea_popescu;!up handsomesally 706653;1402096880;handsomesally;hi 706654;1402096885;mircea_popescu;ello 706655;1402097267;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8021 @ 0.00085467 = 6.8553 BTC [+] {2} 706656;1402097272;benkay;who are you, handsomesally ? 706657;1402097282;handsomesally;calvinism is the only way that makes sense in the way of salvation 706658;1402097286;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: taleb link << mighty interesting 706659;1402097296;mircea_popescu;guy has a fucking point. 706660;1402097313;mircea_popescu;it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. 706661;1402097317;handsomesally;heretics claim god loves everyone 706662;1402097332;handsomesally;thats a lie, John 3:16 greek is kosmos and it dosent mean everyone 706663;1402097359;mircea_popescu;it does mean "everything" which is close enough. 706664;1402097447;handsomesally;so in So the Pharisees said to one another, "You see that you are not doing any good; look, the world has gone after Him." John 12:19 everyone in the world went after him? 706665;1402097463;mircea_popescu;why not ? 706666;1402097470;mircea_popescu;closeenough 706667;1402097479;handsomesally;or For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John 6:33 706668;1402097497;handsomesally;Jesus gives life to the world? everyone? if that is everyone in the world then everyone goes to heaven but that is not true 706669;1402097510;mircea_popescu;been there or how'd you know 706670;1402097555;mircea_popescu;the line where life is a divine gift has plenty of exploratory history, not liable to end up tripping. 706671;1402097579;handsomesally;and god does not love everyone 706672;1402097592;handsomesally;Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels. Hosea 9:15 706673;1402097615;punkman;hello, is this biblebot? 706674;1402097622;handsomesally;nooooo 706675;1402097649;mike_c;;;ident handsomesally 706676;1402097649;gribble;Nick 'handsomesally', with hostmask 'handsomesally!~handsomes@73.186.45.139', is not identified. 706677;1402097682;mircea_popescu;punkman moar like sa trying to pick a fight with danielpbarron and or luke 706678;1402097715;handsomesally;http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/sermons.sinners.html 706679;1402097715;assbot;Select Sermons - Christian Classics Ethereal Library 706680;1402097755;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00085361 = 10.1153 BTC [-] 706681;1402097756;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.275 = 0.55 BTC [+] 706682;1402097899;handsomesally;whos assbot 706683;1402097907;punkman;handsomesally: so you are into calvinism? 706684;1402097929;handsomesally;what if i am? 706685;1402097938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.273 = 0.546 BTC [-] 706686;1402097960;handsomesally;you an arminian? 706687;1402097962;asciilifeform;i've always wanted to ask an actual live calvinist! : wtf do they bother to attend church, carry out services, etc. if predestined. 706688;1402097988;handsomesally;i dont go to any churches in my area they all preach "god loves you soooo much" when in reality he dosent love everyone 706689;1402097994;handsomesally;and predestination is biblical 706690;1402098002;handsomesally;arminians reject that God chooses us 706691;1402098020;punkman;are you a chosen one? 706692;1402098025;asciilifeform;calvinism always sounded like a pretty easy religion to follow. i.e. just do whatever you want 706693;1402098042;handsomesally;elect? IDK, called yes 706694;1402098042;mike_c;catholics do that too 706695;1402098061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00085322 = 10.6226 BTC [-] {2} 706696;1402098067;benkay;!down handsomesally 706697;1402098085;punkman;it was predestined 706698;1402098124;BingoBoingo;!up handsomesally 706699;1402098135;BingoBoingo;handsomesally: Did danielpbarron refer you here? 706700;1402098146;handsomesally;danielpbarron? 706701;1402098173;BingoBoingo;handsomesally: He also follows a peculiar form of Xtianity 706702;1402098187;handsomesally;athiest 706703;1402098194;handsomesally;no he didnt 706704;1402098220;handsomesally;but you need to repent, god will send you to hell if you dont repent from your athiesm(although you cant unless he opens your heart) 706705;1402098257;asciilifeform;wait since when does this work in calvinism 706706;1402098273;handsomesally;asciilifeform: what? 706707;1402098279;benkay;you two are unsaveable. 706708;1402098290;handsomesally;so you claim calvinists cant be saved? 706709;1402098303;BingoBoingo;I thought the point was Calvinists were already saved 706710;1402098304;benkay;handsomesally: if i'm talking to you, you'll know. 706711;1402098353;handsomesally;if your predestined to be saved you will be saved 706712;1402098366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0741998 = 1.484 BTC [+] 706713;1402098372;handsomesally;the reason why people abhor calvinism is because it stresses predestination which it does 706714;1402098384;handsomesally;and limited atonement everyone believes in it 706715;1402098387;thestringpuller;!ticker m X.IDIFF.JUN 706716;1402098387;assbot;Have you got any tobacco? 706717;1402098399;thestringpuller;!ticker m IDIFF.JUN 706718;1402098399;assbot;It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. 706719;1402098403;benkay;spelling and grammar: irrelevant concerns for the religious. 706720;1402098436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0741999 = 0.6678 BTC [+] {2} 706721;1402098437;handsomesally;i dont care about grammar 706722;1402098441;benkay;just the old sky faerie, eh? 706723;1402098488;danielpbarron;<+handsomesally> calvinism is the only way that makes sense in the way of salvation << calvanists deny 1 Timothy 2:6 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+timothy+2%3A3-7&version=NKJV 706724;1402098489;assbot;1 timothy 2:3-7 NKJV - For this is good and acceptable in the - Bible Gateway 706725;1402098497;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07424 = 0.3712 BTC [+] {2} 706726;1402098506;benkay;what have you done BingoBoingo 706727;1402098523;punkman;#bitcoin-bible-study-group 706728;1402098537;BingoBoingo;benkay: Offering bashable foder 706729;1402098541;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0DRDB98.txt ) 706730;1402098541;BingoBoingo;!b 3 706731;1402098551;mike_c;kakobrekla: now that idiff's are relevant, would it be hard to add to add !t m support? 706732;1402098558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.07487378 = 2.1713 BTC [+] {4} 706733;1402098576;thestringpuller;i don't think there is any volume to show mike_c 706734;1402098582;punkman;plot twist: #bitcoin-bible-study-group is about trilema 706735;1402098604;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com Tits 706736;1402098605;gribble;People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Find out just how human your girlfriend really is* pe Trilema - Un ...: ; A practical exercise for people who can't afford airfare. pe Trilema ...: thats a lie, John 3:16 greek is kosmos and it dosent mean everyone << This is a lie. Romans 3:6 uses this same term, and it speaks of God judging the world in the future. It is undeniably clear God is going to judge "every individual of mankind who has ever lived" (Psalm 9:8; 96:13; 98:9; Ecclesiastes 12:13-14; 2 Corinthians 5:10; 1 Peter 4:17). 706748;1402098770;benkay;"lie" 706749;1402098771;benkay;ffs 706750;1402098796;benkay;false import 706751;1402098822;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu you are missing diffs on mpex-vwap.php 706752;1402098849;mike_c;thestringpuller: there is. couple hundred btc have been sold this period at least 706753;1402098861;handsomesally;danielpbarron: so you pull a verse out of context huh, John 6:33 says "For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”" so saying John 3:16 equals god loves everyone means jesus gives life everyone to the world which is a lie as not everyone is saved moreover god dosent love everyone hosea 9:15 refutes that 706754;1402098870;benkay;!down handsomesally 706755;1402098900;danielpbarron;<+handsomesally> so in So the Pharisees said to one another, "You see that you are not doing any good; look, the world has gone after Him." John 12:19 everyone in the world went after him? << the key words here might be, "the Pharisees said" 706756;1402098902;benkay;now, about those idiffs 706757;1402098924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02808 = 0.2808 BTC [-] {2} 706758;1402098962;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well, there's an argument over greek nao, that's a change from the usual kinds of language wars 706759;1402098986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 116 @ 0.02341497 = 2.7161 BTC [-] {7} 706760;1402098987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.01978915 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {2} 706761;1402099023;benkay;lolya rly interdasted in heady theology from people who can't figure out "your" vs "you're". 706762;1402099046;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2640 @ 0.00007294 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {10} 706763;1402099047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 211 @ 0.00177456 = 0.3744 BTC [-] {6} 706764;1402099071;thestringpuller;mike_c: hmm wish it would show up on the volume on mpex 706765;1402099098;mike_c;yeah.. that is odd 706766;1402099107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 596 @ 0.00016823 = 0.1003 BTC [-] {5} 706767;1402099145;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla possibly omitted cause 0 706768;1402099152;mircea_popescu;ill have it lookt into 706769;1402099158;kakobrekla;oix is 0 too and is there 706770;1402099159;mike_c;thestringpuller: mayhaps just rolled over 30d. last trade i see in logs is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663257 706771;1402099159;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 706772;1402099169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 727 @ 0.00016306 = 0.1185 BTC [-] {8} 706773;1402099171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0732497 = 1.6115 BTC [-] {7} 706774;1402099199;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 706775;1402099201;gribble;Current Blocks: 304569 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1862 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11546245801.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.78884 706776;1402099258;thestringpuller;mike_c: oh wow it is relevant now heh 706777;1402099266;thestringpuller;thanks for pointing this out lol 706778;1402099290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02791351 = 0.335 BTC [-] {3} 706779;1402099292;mike_c;it is a very cool thing whose time may have finally come. 706780;1402099326;mircea_popescu;"Kad es en la actualidad el nico fetish bar de Buenos Aires donde nos reunimos los gays leather locales y donde acuden tambin muchos visitantes extranjeros, los sbados desde las 10 de la noche. Consta de un bar y un stano donde la accin sexual est garantizada: las prcticas del BDSM ms habituales son el fisting, las lluvias (para las que, a diferencia de los anteriores clubes, hay un sector especfico), el nipple 706781;1402099327;thestringpuller;indirect mining investment eh? Guess it can be a way to access mining... 706782;1402099327;mircea_popescu;menos frecuencia se dan algunas sesiones de bondage, spanking o whiping, para las cuales el establecimiento provee de los accesorios necesarios. El cdigo de vestimenta es estricto: cuero, ltex, uniformes. " 706783;1402099332;mircea_popescu;god help them they suck 706784;1402099373;danielpbarron;<+handsomesally> Jesus gives life to the world? everyone? if that is everyone in the world then everyone goes to heaven but that is not true << Scripture teaches that a person can believe in vain (1 Corinthians 15:2), receive the grace of God in vain (2 Corinthians 6:1), and even be sanctified by the blood of the covenant (Hebrews 10:29), and still end up in hell (Revelation 21:8). If a person's life questionably matches wh 706785;1402099488;mircea_popescu;!up Hoodmin 706786;1402099495;mike_c;daniel, he's gone. it's ok. 706787;1402099527;[]bot;Bet created: "Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year" http://bitbet.us/bet/887/ 706788;1402099534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] 706789;1402099597;benkay;no suits? 706790;1402099604;danielpbarron;mike_c, heh, i was up in the scroll; didn't know he left 706791;1402099631;danielpbarron;but apparently he's reading the logs through the website, so he'll probably see this anyway 706792;1402099690;mike_c;or you can PM him :) 706793;1402099856;mircea_popescu;an even better idea 706794;1402099884;[]bot;Bet created: "Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion" http://bitbet.us/bet/888/ 706795;1402099961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.287 = 0.574 BTC [+] 706796;1402100144;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.288 = 0.576 BTC [+] 706797;1402100233;decimation;re: ortolan >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4MS7mSzX8 706798;1402100233;assbot;Clarkson eats an Ortolan bunting - YouTube 706799;1402100256;decimation;I suspect your crazed fowl wouldn't be as tasty as a real ortolan 706800;1402100327;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+] 706801;1402100394;decimation;re: religious people: The religious zealots who bother in me are those who have turned marxism into godless Christianity - they hold the whip hand in the west for now 706802;1402101399;mircea_popescu;!up Vrontis 706803;1402101471;mircea_popescu;"The Better Business Bureau in Austin has issued a warning about doing business with Cointerra, a Bitcoin mining manufacturer." 706804;1402101502;decimation;asciilifeorm: I made contact with Mr. Parker, his tool was to create hdl code from a 7400 netlist, not the other way 706805;1402101506;mircea_popescu;!up mthreat 706806;1402101523;mircea_popescu;;;rate mthreat 1 new blood 706807;1402101524;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. 706808;1402101533;mircea_popescu;actually 706809;1402101538;mircea_popescu;;;rate mthreat 1 had coffee 706810;1402101539;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1. 706811;1402101558;decimation;in related news, apparently these people make GHz rate 7400 parts: http://www.potatosemi.com/potatosemiweb/74Logic.html 706812;1402101559;assbot;Potato Semiconductor 74 Logic 706813;1402101578;Mats_cd03;theology and quibbling over scripture and doctrine is so fucking dumb 706814;1402101635;Mats_cd03;a waste of cycles to so much as hold the thought in your head 706815;1402101673;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 706816;1402101675;gribble;Current Blocks: 304571 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1860 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 50 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11600761528.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.32514 706817;1402101680;Mats_cd03;;;ticker 706818;1402101681;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 647.83, Best ask: 649.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 649.26, 24 hour volume: 6364.35989286, 24 hour low: 647.13, 24 hour high: 662.13, 24 hour vwap: 657.244722223 706819;1402101830;decimation;the downside: $3 for a NAND chip 706820;1402102584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0279004 = 0.1674 BTC [-] 706821;1402102585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.076 = 0.152 BTC [+] 706822;1402102889;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02788335 = 0.5019 BTC [-] {3} 706823;1402103011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764 = 0.382 BTC [+] 706824;1402104674;TheNewDeal;notta lotta action 706825;1402104963;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7517 @ 0.00085285 = 6.4109 BTC [-] 706826;1402105392;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 were you going for norway? 706827;1402105512;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00253649 = 0.142 BTC [-] 706828;1402105692;Mats_cd03;no 706829;1402105725;Mats_cd03;what are you referring to 706830;1402107098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2948926 BTC [+] 706831;1402107483;mircea_popescu;someone wanted to ove to norway 706832;1402107491;dooglus;Re: <+BingoBoingo> Anyone else remember the KingofSPorts lolcow who got 1BTC from dooglus for writing a confessional about his gambling everything all the time and landing in rehab? 706833;1402107492;mircea_popescu;!up jadne 706834;1402107496;dooglus;uh, no 706835;1402107503;dooglus;I didn't give him anything did I? 706836;1402107524;mircea_popescu;i thought it was a little odd 706837;1402107604;mike_c;hey dooglus, how's it going. big day on JD today! 706838;1402107624;mircea_popescu;!jd 706839;1402107624;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 18429 BTC profit, 43.0k BTC invested, 1231.52 mio bets, 5.28 mio BTC wagered 706840;1402107635;mircea_popescu;not bad 706841;1402107648;mike_c;5750 wagered, nicely above average. 706842;1402107656;dooglus;crazy day, yes. at least 4 major incidents in the last 24h 706843;1402107683;mircea_popescu;incidents ? 706844;1402107684;dooglus;whale LiKaShing deposits 20 BTC, and has it immediately withdrawn by sources unknown. claims site is hacked 706845;1402107690;Mats_cd03;so much for martingale 706846;1402107697;dooglus;fake theymos loses fortune 706847;1402107714;dooglus;klye admits to spunking porn ipo fund over just-dice 706848;1402107721;mike_c;yeah, that was a good one 706849;1402107733;mike_c;what did you do about likashing? 706850;1402107738;dooglus;and pippin after discovering the joy of investing in jd instead of losing, loses all 706851;1402107744;mike_c;lol 706852;1402107751;mircea_popescu;obsesivel read logs and code ? 706853;1402107759;Namworld;Hey dooglus 706854;1402107761;dooglus;I kind of accused him of trying to make the site look bad 706855;1402107769;dooglus;hey Namworld 706856;1402107777;dooglus;that mike is still badmouthing CR in hs thread 706857;1402107800;mircea_popescu;dooglus i don't imagine 20 btc s the largest cash deposit 706858;1402107809;mike_c;did you offer any kind of evidence or just lean on your rep? 706859;1402107834;mike_c;just curious about how you deal with that kind of thing. must be reasonably common to get scam accused. 706860;1402107836;dooglus;I don't have any evidence. someone used his URL to access his account... 706861;1402107859;dooglus;it's quite rare, other than the rigtards "7 lo in a row! impossibru!" 706862;1402107916;mike_c;user 798461 last 24 hours: wagered 2,838 lost 565. ouch. 706863;1402107916;Namworld;eh, I can't do much more about it. 706864;1402107950;dooglus;weird rating system. the more trouble her has with the site, th more checkmarks you get for customer support 706865;1402107960;dooglus;he never had a problem with JD, so we get none 706866;1402108024;Namworld;Well to hell with it. If he's not happy not having instant support. 706867;1402108032;Namworld;We can't currently offer that. 706868;1402108049;dooglus;I expect MP's buttcoin was Klye's first experience with selling his body for tips 706869;1402108103;mircea_popescu;lol 706870;1402108127;dooglus;I just linked to MPIF in a reddit comment btw 706871;1402108129;dooglus;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27hk9o/someone_calling_themselves_theymos_is_gambling/ci168sn 706872;1402108130;assbot;dooglus comments on Someone calling themselves "theymos" is gambling like mad on Just-Dice 706873;1402108137;dooglus;called it "well known" 706874;1402108192;mircea_popescu;nice 706875;1402108208;mircea_popescu;did you get banned ? 706876;1402108219;dooglus;didn't check yet 706877;1402108230;dooglus;you're banned from reddit? 706878;1402108290;mircea_popescu;uh i never had anaccount 706879;1402108424;mircea_popescu;just, average redditard gets butthurt when reminded mpex exists 706880;1402108476;mircea_popescu;plenty of people still around that "invested" in glbse and predicted mpex' imminent closure back in 2012 etc. 706881;1402108501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.01980034 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2} 706882;1402109111;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1666 BTC [+] 706883;1402109547;TheNewDeal;why do all the fun topics like horseporn start up when I go to sleep?! 706884;1402109747;TheNewDeal;does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? 706885;1402109855;bitcoinpete;!up CryptoConsultor 706886;1402109898;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation 706887;1402109898;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 706888;1402109930;CryptoConsultor;Right awn. Thanks 706889;1402109938;CryptoConsultor;Fresh meat in the house 706890;1402109941;bitcoinpete;i met CryptoConsultor at our local meet-up the other week and he asked for a q&a… naturally i brought him here 706891;1402109943;bitcoinpete;lol yup 706892;1402109968;bitcoinpete;so shoot away 706893;1402110032;CryptoConsultor;Feels good to jump on IRC again. It's been a while 706894;1402110050;TheNewDeal;bitcoinpete you liking the looks of your Bastille Day purchase? 706895;1402110066;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: more and more :D 706896;1402110077;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 706897;1402110079;gribble;Current Blocks: 304590 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1841 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11836591652.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.68081 706898;1402110093;TheNewDeal;.68!!! 706899;1402110114;bitcoinpete;ya, it was like 13 this morning 706900;1402110123;bitcoinpete;no idea wtf 706901;1402110125;bitcoinpete;meh 706902;1402110130;dooglus;there's a pending bet on bitbet about Klye's longevity 706903;1402110139;TheNewDeal;network has been hashing quite slow since the diff change... 706904;1402110146;dooglus;but it's phrased as a disjunction, so I doubt it will b acceptable 706905;1402110159;bitcoinpete;dooglus: i read the logs earlier… how does kyle have any longevity left? 706906;1402110172;bitcoinpete;dood is toast 706907;1402110184;dooglus;he hopes the bet is accepted so he can advise his creditors to vote "o" then top himself 706908;1402110187;dooglus;"no"* 706909;1402110205;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: ya and a bunch of hashpower skipped down like 2 hours before the reset 706910;1402110230;bitcoinpete;dooglus: kyle proposed this bet?? 706911;1402110240;TheNewDeal;mircea_popescu is there a problem with trilema credits? I'm suddenly able to browse quite freely when using my 4G piped through my phone 706912;1402110267;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: 3g/4g always gives fresh ip addresses me thinks 706913;1402110275;bitcoinpete;or something to that effect 706914;1402110278;TheNewDeal;ahhh 706915;1402110286;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: you getting wotted up? 706916;1402110365;bitcoinpete;Apocalyptic:hum, so clueless wannabe investor's pool hasn't dried up yet << but it's shrivelling like a salted slug 706917;1402110410;CryptoConsultor;digesting WoT info now 706918;1402110424;CryptoConsultor;So your assbot can cryptokey your Ident? 706919;1402110514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0765 = 0.153 BTC [+] 706920;1402110515;bitcoinpete;gribble does that 706921;1402110521;bitcoinpete;assbot is for voice 706922;1402110570;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: wait, just like germany ? << lulz it's a new trend! 706923;1402110610;dooglus;bitcoinpete: I don't think so 706924;1402110616;CryptoConsultor;i see. you find bitcoin info loaded more on freenet servers? 706925;1402110624;CryptoConsultor;My old running ground was EFnet 706926;1402110668;CryptoConsultor;definatly feel a bit rusty with my web skillz. Industrial work has made me soft 706927;1402110669;bitcoinpete;dooglus: a misunderstood then. either way, betting on that kid is as sensical as that kid's betting 706928;1402110703;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: well spend 6 months reading logs here and derusting and you'll be good as new 706929;1402110834;CryptoConsultor;so much to digest already. you place this place highest in priority? 706930;1402110891;CryptoConsultor;should have just started here dangit 706931;1402110901;CryptoConsultor;feelin so left out of the last 3 fun years 706932;1402110934;bitcoinpete;yup, no higher priority than right here 706933;1402110940;bitcoinpete;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDJovyJ5zXk 706934;1402110940;assbot;Tony Bennett & Bill Evans - Young And Foolish - YouTube 706935;1402111060;CryptoConsultor;It's rough these days to find the time to be the grand lurker I used to be 706936;1402111091;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: PS. I'm valuing my next company at $1 billion despite it having accomplished very little and/or nothing << what were we gonna ipo again? iWalletBackup inspired by usagi? 706937;1402111109;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: i hear ya but there's no other way 706938;1402111115;bitcoinpete;it's 2-3 hours per day 706939;1402111116;bitcoinpete;every day 706940;1402111143;CryptoConsultor;That's tough to find as a single dad with 2 careers 706941;1402111171;bitcoinpete;mike_c:are you fking kidding me. halep in the finals?? << against the blonde bomber! 706942;1402111184;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: i bet man 706943;1402111185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00085257 = 1.527 BTC [-] {2} 706944;1402111215;bitcoinpete;well, at least you can outsource some of the research to me :D 706945;1402111247;CryptoConsultor;If I can navigate these crtpto waters I should hopefully phase out my industrial life 706946;1402111252;CryptoConsultor;I miss tech land 706947;1402111296;CryptoConsultor;You got your start here before the madness? 706948;1402111320;bitcoinpete;i started reading logs in december last year 706949;1402111328;bitcoinpete;just about… 6 months ago 706950;1402111346;bitcoinpete;and the yeshiva doesn't end there 706951;1402111362;bitcoinpete;;;google bitcoinpete irc yeshiva 706952;1402111363;gribble;Bitcoin Pete (bitcoinpete) on Twitter: ; IRC Yeshiva | When Bitcoin Met Pete: ; Biting Into The WoT Elephant (And IRC Nicknames) | When Bitcoin ...: 706953;1402111500;bitcoinpete;took me 8 months or so to find this place for realz 706954;1402111559;bitcoinpete;i found trilema right quick, but it was so far over my head that it took almost a year of reading it and many other books to come to terms with it. 706955;1402111609;CryptoConsultor;You run with any crews before then? 706956;1402111642;CryptoConsultor;I spent many years reading logs back in the days before Napster 706957;1402111650;CryptoConsultor;Fond memories of a mispent youth 706958;1402111673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29744651 = 5.9489 BTC [+] {6} 706959;1402111742;benkay;CryptoConsultor: are you a cryptographic consultant? 706960;1402111782;bitcoinpete;other_mp: you should see the jewish section btw.>> like so? http://wander-argentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WA-jewsinba-kosherMcDs.jpg 706961;1402111790;TheNewDeal;he cries and pees to consultors 706962;1402111795;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07493514 = 0.7494 BTC [-] 706963;1402111986;bitcoinpete;!up CryptoConsultor 706964;1402112027;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: i wasn't on irc prior to being here. i was on twitter and local meet-ups mostly 706965;1402112034;CryptoConsultor;My crypto career is a work in progress. But ya I've had some Computer Security jobs in the past 706966;1402112095;benkay;what kind of crypto career are you building? 706967;1402112178;CryptoConsultor;Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun 706968;1402112259;CryptoConsultor;I'm a bit late to the party 706969;1402112308;bitcoinpete;mike_c: if you have identified a small set of awesome investments, why would you put money in something else that is worse? << let them eat cake! 706970;1402112324;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: as always, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago 706971;1402112328;bitcoinpete;the second best time is now 706972;1402112345;bitcoinpete;you're not competing with ideal, just reality 706973;1402112379;mike_c;the blonde bomber better win 706974;1402112386;CryptoConsultor;yea I'm not hung up on missing any boat 706975;1402112398;bitcoinpete;mike_c: i have little doubt she will 706976;1402112402;mike_c;what is this klye bet you're talking about? 706977;1402112417;CryptoConsultor;I'm working really hard to devolop forward momentum 706978;1402112445;bitcoinpete;mike_c: not entirely clear, dooglus seems to know tho 706979;1402112471;CryptoConsultor;!facts 706980;1402112477;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: being here so soon puts you miles ahead of the redditards and coindeskers 706981;1402112491;bitcoinpete;and they've been derping for… ever 706982;1402112495;CryptoConsultor;I noticed you had some sharp words for the coindeskers 706983;1402112512;bitcoinpete;eh they're not that special 706984;1402112520;bitcoinpete;i have sharp words for a lot of people lol 706985;1402112533;CryptoConsultor;you favor any news sources out there? 706986;1402112545;CryptoConsultor;you don't like the podcast crowd either eh? 706987;1402112549;TheNewDeal;mike_c looked like there is a proposed bet on kyle dying? 706988;1402112582;bitcoinpete;maidsafe, circle, twobitidiot, core devs, seamonster, usa, central banks... 706989;1402112593;TheNewDeal;"Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" 706990;1402112604;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: lmao! 706991;1402112605;TheNewDeal;klye* 706992;1402112636;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: oh yea, andreas too 706993;1402112641;mike_c;ah, proposed 706994;1402112654;TheNewDeal;I'm confused why the Kevin Love bet didn't succeed after reading news about him possibly being transferred. Concerned MN native 706995;1402112672;bitcoinpete;well intentioned though they may be, they do harm to themselves and those who pray at their fucktarded feet 706996;1402112739;bitcoinpete;there's some room for compassion in this world but there's also room for being smart and not losing money 706997;1402112847;CryptoConsultor;You'd say that you've done "well" in this game so far? 706998;1402112904;CryptoConsultor;You got your hands on coins before the crazyness? 706999;1402112908;TheNewDeal;mircea_popescu UStardianism is most definitely a religion, and it's virtually synonymous with christianity 707000;1402112980;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: well enough 707001;1402113019;bitcoinpete;when "1 inmueble goes for 1 btc" even better 707002;1402113039;CryptoConsultor;right awn. I've got happy results even being late to the game 707003;1402113076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.01980019 = 0.198 BTC [-] 707004;1402113090;CryptoConsultor;Edm activity been picking up this last run? 707005;1402113099;TheNewDeal;bitcoinpete, haven't you hit some hard times in bitcoin as well? 707006;1402113136;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: who was hating on religion earlier ? << danielpbarron, who should also scope out http://econjwatch.org/file_download/822/ReadTalebMay2014.pdf 707007;1402113162;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: such as… ? 707008;1402113175;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: less than the oct/nov run 707009;1402113222;CryptoConsultor;You got roots in finance? 707010;1402113262;benkay; Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun // pardon me, EDU? 707011;1402113292;TheNewDeal;maybe I'm thinking of someone else. There was somebody that MP forced writing some GPG signed apology letter / explanation of some really crockety bitcoin stock endeavour 707012;1402113320;CryptoConsultor;My first round of Post Secondary school was many many years ago. We learned to txt edit HTML. So yea I got old rusty skills. 707013;1402113377;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: lol def someone else 707014;1402113389;bitcoinpete;first i've heard of a gpg signed apology letter 707015;1402113412;CryptoConsultor;I explained to pete that I was once many years ago an active IRC junkie/web coder and then shifted out of web work for industrial paycheques 707016;1402113445;CryptoConsultor;this world feels alien to me now. gotta bruch up some old cob webs in the head 707017;1402113504;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: been playing with tech stocks for about 15 years, did some lending and gambling as a kid, then started reading taleb and others about 4 years ago and here we are 707018;1402113613;CryptoConsultor;you got post secondary ed before then? 707019;1402113710;CryptoConsultor;I did a few years at NAIT, but IRC taught me more then any classroom 707020;1402113728;benkay;CryptoConsultor: what pays the bills for you now? 707021;1402113748;benkay;what is this 'industrial' you mention - word means a lot of things in a lot of contexts. 707022;1402113751;CryptoConsultor;Industrial Electrician with specialty in PLC work 707023;1402113763;benkay;ah ha 707024;1402113773;benkay;production line installations and programming etc? 707025;1402113774;CryptoConsultor;Industrial - Mining 707026;1402113787;benkay;gotcha 707027;1402113799;CryptoConsultor;Yea automated coal processing plant and Diesel Electric drive controls 707028;1402113810;benkay;so what do you plan to do with yourself in btc? 707029;1402113845;bitcoinpete;!up CryptoConsultor 707030;1402113859;CryptoConsultor;I gotta work out this gribble stuff to keep my voice eh? 707031;1402113889;CryptoConsultor;BTC has captured my soul and I am now it's slave for life 707032;1402113897;benkay;great attitude lol 707033;1402113921;CryptoConsultor;If you know my background you'd say it was unavoidable 707034;1402114013;CryptoConsultor;I'm pretty good at anaylizing complex systems 707035;1402114029;CryptoConsultor;And this stuff give me a huge nerdgasm 707036;1402114046;CryptoConsultor;It gets my nerdglaze all over the place 707037;1402114055;bitcoinpete;lol 707038;1402114082;CryptoConsultor;I was stunned when I went to the Calgary Comic Convention and NOBODY was talkin Bitcoin 707039;1402114088;CryptoConsultor;I'm gonna change that 707040;1402114110;CryptoConsultor;My nerd brethren let me down 707041;1402114120;bitcoinpete;comicers like their little imaginary boxes 707042;1402114124;bitcoinpete;finance is to real 707043;1402114127;TheNewDeal;they are the yesternerds 707044;1402114132;CryptoConsultor;they sure gave up on computer science 707045;1402114144;bitcoinpete;they're nerds, we're geeks 707046;1402114173;bitcoinpete;geeks can function in the real world 707047;1402114176;CryptoConsultor;well if I have to set up in convention center I will. they seem the best crowd to jump on the bandwagon next 707048;1402114182;bitcoinpete;and more than function, geeks can own the world 707049;1402114194;CryptoConsultor;I'm well aware of that 707050;1402114218;bitcoinpete;comicnerds aren't the next anything 707051;1402114253;bitcoinpete;bitcoin is going to the upper crust and/or making its own 707052;1402114289;CryptoConsultor;Your attention on wall street pretty hard? 707053;1402114310;bitcoinpete;my attention is here and needn't be elsewhere 707054;1402114324;bitcoinpete;it's wall street's attention that will follow 707055;1402114352;CryptoConsultor;You guys notice when their movements with ease? 707056;1402114406;CryptoConsultor;Well let's back up first... 707057;1402114418;TheNewDeal;did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? 707058;1402114434;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel << gonna say no 707059;1402114440;mike_c;TheNewDeal: mergemining 707060;1402114447;CryptoConsultor;gotta grab a quick refill 707061;1402114478;TheNewDeal;I understand that it is mergmined, but the fact that a coin is mergmined does not guarantee anyone considers it worth mining, no? 707062;1402114500;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. << à la kyle 707063;1402114541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 216 @ 0.003001 = 0.6482 BTC [-] 707064;1402114563;mike_c;TheNewDeal: true.. but i am seeing the same numbers as you. 45 ph/s 707065;1402114573;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal: 45.239 Phash/s… but how? 707066;1402114604;TheNewDeal;methinks that people must believe it is worth mining 707067;1402114614;TheNewDeal;judging by the numbers, half as worthy 707068;1402114665;CryptoConsultor;isn't namecoin tied to decentralized DNS? 707069;1402114684;CryptoConsultor;or do I got wires crossed? 707070;1402114805;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: pretty mucho 707071;1402114808;TheNewDeal;they are crossed correctly 707072;1402114848;bitcoinpete;there's a fantastically intense couple's fight going on in the apartment next door 707073;1402114852;TheNewDeal;I'm actually just beginning to read about it now, after it being mentioned yeshterday in the lawgs 707074;1402114872;bitcoinpete;these late 19th century brick buildings don't shield sound like newer ones 707075;1402114895;TheNewDeal;if you swoop in at the right time, you could get some revenge sex 707076;1402114931;peterl;TheNewDeal: I think it was me you are thinking of with the gpg signed letter 707077;1402114952;CryptoConsultor;I can ident on gribble with a bitcoin address too? 707078;1402114956;TheNewDeal;ahh, so few petes, so easy to confuse 707079;1402114985;bitcoinpete;peterl: right! 707080;1402114989;peterl;hey, I'm peter, he is pete 707081;1402114991;bitcoinpete;forgot about that... 707082;1402114999;bitcoinpete;lol 707083;1402115008;TheNewDeal;they're all petes to me 707084;1402115013;bitcoinpete;CryptoConsultor: myeah 707085;1402115018;peterl;and MP did not force me to write it, he just made a friendly suggestion 707086;1402115053;TheNewDeal;half of what I say is gibberish, and must be taken for granted 707087;1402115084;TheNewDeal;bc, stats 707088;1402115088;cazalla;almost all of you are named either peter or paul 707089;1402115105;TheNewDeal;;;bc,stats 707090;1402115108;gribble;Current Blocks: 304597 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11643866275.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.95849 707091;1402115137;TheNewDeal;oh my gribbles this has been a slow start to the diff change 707092;1402115165;peterl;cazalla: don't forget the marys 707093;1402115201;peterl;isn't there a bitbet about difficulty dropping? 707094;1402115203;TheNewDeal;I'm going to put out TheNewDeal's current prediction of 6.9% increase 707095;1402115214;cazalla;i think you mean marie but i get confused myself 707096;1402115234;bitcoinpete;[]bot: Bet created: "Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion" http://bitbet.us/bet/888/ << pretty much no other choices 707097;1402115234;assbot;BitBet - Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`893 (100`000 to 1) 707098;1402115254;TheNewDeal;yes and it pays out 1.32 at 1 BTC with a timeweight of only 6,000 707099;1402115291;TheNewDeal;but you would be betting basically that one of the next two diff changes is going to be negative 707100;1402115387;TheNewDeal;crawling over bitbets is my second job 707101;1402115415;bitcoinpete;ok, i'm crashing 707102;1402115424;bitcoinpete;thanks for dropping by CryptoConsultor 707103;1402115439;CryptoConsultor;Yea cheers pete 707104;1402115466;CryptoConsultor;I'll keep reading up on this gribble guy. He's a lot more fancy than the eggbots I used to know 707105;1402115486;CryptoConsultor;Thanks for the invite too 707106;1402115574;TheNewDeal;gribble's a boss, but he's notorious for underpredicting diff increases 707107;1402115597;TheNewDeal;;;rate gribble 1 notorious for underpredicting difficulty increases 707108;1402115598;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user gribble has been recorded. 707109;1402115748;peterl;!up CryptoConsultor 707110;1402115844;CryptoConsultor;ok I think I got reg with gribble now. Is that assbot going to stop -v me? 707111;1402115868;mike_c;;;ident CryptoConsultor 707112;1402115868;gribble;Nick 'CryptoConsultor', with hostmask 'CryptoConsultor!~Hoodmin@S0106000f66a91966.hn.shawcable.net', is not identified. 707113;1402115894;peterl;you also have to be in assbot's L2 trust to voice yourself 707114;1402115924;peterl;;;gettrust assbot CryptoConsultor 707115;1402115925;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CryptoConsultor: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CryptoConsultor | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CryptoConsultor | Rated since: never 707116;1402115935;CryptoConsultor;hmmm 707117;1402115976;BingoBoingo;dooglus: I assumed you paid him as he claimed, because soon afterwards his confessional went missing (Kingofsports that is) 707118;1402116281;BingoBoingo;CryptoConsultor: Probably part of the reason is that gribble isn't an eggbot, forked supybot 707119;1402116326;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 707120;1402116351;dooglus;BingoBoingo: I don't remember, but I don't think i would have given him anything 707121;1402116377;dooglus;BingoBoingo: I published his piece on the blog, and allowed him to put up a donation address 707122;1402116417;BingoBoingo;dooglus: His confessional may have mentioned Deb instead. I only remember the matter because I at one point sold him some single bitcoins until he got pissy I wouldn't sell him tens and send first at the same time. 707123;1402116580;dooglus;http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2014/01/gambling-addiction-kos.html 707124;1402116580;assbot;Just-News @ Just-Dice: Gambling Addiction - KOS 707125;1402116670;dooglus;assbot: that'll be 1 mBTC for reading that post please ;) 707126;1402116688;Vexual;now theres a man who knows how to gamble 707127;1402116714;mircea_popescu; does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? << intel ? 707128;1402116722;Vexual;gambling rehab should teach mathematics 707129;1402116738;dooglus;and paragraphs 707130;1402116876;mircea_popescu;isnt .1 cent a bit expoensive ? 707131;1402116940;peterl;expensive for what? 707132;1402116989;mircea_popescu;for assbot 707133;1402116999;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: 707134;1402116999;mircea_popescu;other_mp: you should see the jewish section btw.>> like so? http://wander-argentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WA-jewsinba-kosherMcDs.jpg << nah, like 1930 warsaw. 707135;1402117002;peterl;does assbot pay for trilema credits? 707136;1402117020;Vexual;no, the header is free 707137;1402117035;peterl;MP gives head for free? 707138;1402117047;mircea_popescu;mike_c: the blonde bomber better win << don't hate halep just because she is young and eager and in better shape and scrappy 707139;1402117051;mircea_popescu;and going to win 707140;1402117122;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" << that ain't gonna work. 707141;1402117137;Vexual;id hope not 707142;1402117158;asciilifeform;mike_c: you couldn't find one example of ascii promoting s.nsa shares << well, let's be fair, i never said 'don't do it' - hence, wagen. 707143;1402117204;asciilifeform;decimation: GHz 7400 parts: ECL? 707144;1402117231;asciilifeform;decimation: ECL easily gives you 50-80 GHz 707145;1402117251;asciilifeform;decimation: no exotic chemistries, either - ordinary Si. 707146;1402117279;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 were you going for norway << that was diametric 707147;1402117296;mircea_popescu;aok 707148;1402117303;mircea_popescu;!up jborkl 707149;1402117310;mircea_popescu;well so ave him read taleb 707150;1402117333;jborkl;Thank you 707151;1402117386;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? < it's mergemined 707152;1402117398;mircea_popescu;the correct construction is that "about half bitcoin miners also merge namecoin" 707153;1402117419;jborkl;That sounds correct 707154;1402117598;asciilifeform;Vexual: gambling rehab should teach mathematics << what'll they teach in mathematics rehab ? 707155;1402117637;mircea_popescu;how to chase skirts. 707156;1402117712;peterl;didn't John Nash have a big breakthrough in math while chasing skirts? 707157;1402117713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764989 = 0.3825 BTC [+] 707158;1402117730;asciilifeform;peterl: in the american film, where he was straight 707159;1402117771;peterl;what, you mean the film does not stay true to the original story? I'm shocked /sarcasm 707160;1402117906;mircea_popescu;anyway, that's all for me. tomorrow! 707161;1402117912;jborkl;Mircea if you have not been by the site lately. I just finished the diff calculator. 707162;1402117926;jborkl;And a whole bunch of other shit 707163;1402118024;decimation;asciilifeform: yeah I forgot about ECL. The point is, discrete logic need not be slow. However, at high speeds propagation delay is going to be a serious issue, which implies distributed clockless dataflow design. 707164;1402118144;asciilifeform;decimation: which is why the 'real fun' would be muller's 'c-gate', which doesn't care about delay 707165;1402118167;asciilifeform;and needs no clock 707166;1402118227;asciilifeform;'How long can something be held as wrong before its practice is discontinued? A long, very long time, much longer than we think.' << from mp's taleb page. in our case, synchronous logic. 707167;1402118233;asciilifeform;it's just braindamaged. 707168;1402118256;asciilifeform;c-gate is known since '58. 707169;1402118259;asciilifeform;(no, not a typo) 707170;1402118290;*;asciilifeform off to bed 707171;1402118517;decimation;mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses 707172;1402118689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.02599264 = 0.5718 BTC [-] {4} 707173;1402118872;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07573307 = 0.3787 BTC [-] 707174;1402123691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.01981674 = 1.1296 BTC [+] {2} 707175;1402124057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.0238 = 0.6426 BTC [-] 707176;1402125033;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] 707177;1402125094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253969 = 0.254 BTC [+] 707178;1402125155;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29 = 1.16 BTC [-] 707179;1402125216;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28600498 BTC [-] 707180;1402125277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17105 @ 0.00085348 = 14.5988 BTC [+] 707181;1402125277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253995 = 0.254 BTC [+] {2} 707182;1402126131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07648301 = 0.2294 BTC [-] 707183;1402126802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07648302 = 0.4589 BTC [+] {2} 707184;1402130401;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07461028 = 1.0445 BTC [-] {2} 707185;1402130523;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [+] 707186;1402131133;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] 707187;1402131804;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00085346 = 10.3269 BTC [-] 707188;1402132170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02392685 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {4} 707189;1402132292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07431252 = 0.5202 BTC [-] 707190;1402132719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0258 = 0.1032 BTC [-] 707191;1402135202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0743 = 0.5201 BTC [-] 707192;1402136484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00085292 = 20.1289 BTC [-] {2} 707193;1402138191;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [-] 707194;1402138587;dub;so much trollin in the btc 707195;1402138929;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27iyhl/remember_the_guy_who_gambled_5025_btc_away_1_week/ 707196;1402138930;assbot;Remember the guy who gambled 50.25 BTC away 1 week ago? : Bitcoin 707197;1402138930;fluffypony;man 707198;1402138931;fluffypony;that is so sad 707199;1402138932;fluffypony;that dude needs help stat 707200;1402138963;fluffypony;dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? 707201;1402139167;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00085216 = 23.8179 BTC [-] {4} 707202;1402139406;dub;help is only a bullet away 707203;1402139478;cazalla;how would that stop them gambling 707204;1402139520;cazalla;they had an inquiry on gambling addiction here in australia due to all the degenerates spending their kids lunch money on poker machines 707205;1402139536;cazalla;result was counselling was a waste of time and money 707206;1402139744;fluffypony;cazalla: I dunno, I've never known anyone in that situation, so I'm not sure how you stop them 707207;1402139787;fluffypony;besides a swift kick to the balls every time they want to gamble 707208;1402140510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07399999 = 0.148 BTC [-] 707209;1402140570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0742654 = 1.1882 BTC [+] 707210;1402140936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0201997 = 0.2828 BTC [+] 707211;1402141058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.02736326 = 2.7363 BTC [+] {5} 707212;1402141546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07461733 = 1.4923 BTC [+] {6} 707213;1402141851;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074699 = 0.1494 BTC [+] {2} 707214;1402142108;fluffypony;usagi responds to the video clip: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7178946#msg7178946 707215;1402142108;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 707216;1402142239;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600628.msg7161926#msg7161926 707217;1402142239;assbot;BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today 707218;1402142285;fluffypony;"@fluffyponny @jurov @davout @pankkake please stay out now from this postings, everyone know now that only 4 or 5 guys from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ IRC chat only claims problems with us how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more, each forum member looks to your profile history can see that the only people accuse others of scam are a small group talking 24 707219;1402142286;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 707220;1402142286;fluffypony;hours in a IRC chat and think about who is next they can accuse of shit things! Poor very poor!" 707221;1402142289;fluffypony;lol! 707222;1402142398;pankkake;this is actually accurate. but after all, most things are a scam 707223;1402142705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16543 @ 0.00085078 = 14.0745 BTC [-] 707224;1402142876;kakobrekla;tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming 707225;1402142929;pankkake;I have a wide definition of scam :) claiming competence while you don't have it = scam 707226;1402143348;danielpbarron;how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more << the false teachers make an identical claim; not much difference when it comes to scammers 707227;1402144413;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00248735 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {6} 707228;1402144417;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/central-bankers-digital-money-institution-control/ 707229;1402144418;assbot;Central Bankers Argue Digital Currency Requires Institutional Control 707230;1402144474;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0024 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2} 707231;1402145069;Apocalyptic;heh 707232;1402145160;Apocalyptic;"Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" 707233;1402145170;Apocalyptic;missed the entire point, sadly 707234;1402145241;pankkake;it's the coindesk/reddit thinking that bitcoin is only about payments, forgetting the digital gold 707235;1402145349;fluffypony;;;gettrust frankenmint 707236;1402145350;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: never 707237;1402145399;fluffypony;;;rate frankenmint 1 OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod 707238;1402145400;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded. 707239;1402148079;mircea_popescu;decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses << english propaganda is generally not to be taken seriously. 707240;1402148099;mircea_popescu;there's genuine anti english sentiment here, much like there's genuine anti-muslim and anti-indian sentiment in the uk. 707241;1402148118;mircea_popescu;the governments generally do the best practicable to manage it, the opposition generally accuse the government of pandering 707242;1402148122;mircea_popescu;then pander when in power. 707243;1402148171;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? << what's that to help ? 707244;1402148184;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I feel bad for the guy 707245;1402148192;mircea_popescu;soyou do. so do i. like so : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014#705595 707246;1402148192;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 707247;1402148213;fluffypony;lol Usagi - "You are not capable of doing work on the projects I am working on -- you're not qualified." 707248;1402148231;mircea_popescu;the vacant stare of the parents, or in other words " the worst thing that could ever have happened to your children is having met you." 707249;1402148315;mircea_popescu;anyway, *you* don't stop them. you just stop your wife and children from being thesort of retards, and then make *them* live in the most abject conditions available. 707250;1402148359;fluffypony;agreed 707251;1402148401;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600628.msg7166799#msg7166799 << lol 707252;1402148401;assbot;BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today 707253;1402148429;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: what's even better is that Usagi quoted BitcoinBourse as a defence 707254;1402148433;mircea_popescu;"only four or five people that happen to matter in btc finance say im a scammer, because the rest can't be bothered, and so please ignore everything bad you ever hear (about me)" 707255;1402148442;mircea_popescu;next post, anon guy "fu you owe me money since last year" 707256;1402148444;mircea_popescu;so much win. 707257;1402148499;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming << seems credible. 707258;1402148545;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic: 707259;1402148545;mircea_popescu;"Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" <<< in the dreamland they inhabit, where saying makes it so, central bankers can issue currencies which will matter because they say so, and the sec can matter because it's the sec and nobody has to cut a deal with me first or anything. 707260;1402148552;mircea_popescu;should be fun to see how this works out in the end. 707261;1402148683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11877 @ 0.00085348 = 10.1368 BTC [+] 707262;1402148768;fluffypony;pankkake: I don't get "13991b1bd4d0c6f1c77954128922cb80bda602a7e8c893772e321dd6d6fdfba2" 707263;1402148775;fluffypony;(just saw it now) 707264;1402148841;pankkake;no real reason, it's a hash of the old post contents 707265;1402148877;fluffypony;ah ok 707266;1402148928;pankkake;;;view 707267;1402148928;gribble;Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=pankkake to see the list of matching orders. 707268;1402148934;pankkake;lol 707269;1402148942;pankkake;;;view 20705 707270;1402148954;gribble;#20705 Sat Jun 7 07:18:31 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Bitcointalk script @ 0.1337 BTC (Script to remove or mass edit your bitcointalk posts, comes with unlimited support or can run it for you) 707271;1402148979;fluffypony;but they stay on bitcointa.lk forever 707272;1402148988;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00085232 = 14.1485 BTC [-] {3} 707273;1402149014;pankkake;yes, which isn't bad at all 707274;1402149096;mircea_popescu;pankkake expensive no ? 707275;1402149105;mircea_popescu;.1337 is more thanthe entire forum software costs 707276;1402149130;fluffypony;wtf 707277;1402149131;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/5eOn0qq.jpg 707278;1402149138;fluffypony;does that take you to the image directly 707279;1402149143;fluffypony;or to the imgur page? 707280;1402149167;mircea_popescu;image 707281;1402149169;Apocalyptic;image 707282;1402149175;fluffypony;that's bizarre 707283;1402149176;pankkake;price is based on my support time costs 707284;1402149184;fluffypony;not working here 707285;1402149202;mircea_popescu;who's chinny ? :D 707286;1402149204;fluffypony;oh weird - works in Opera, but not in Firefox or Safari 707287;1402149224;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: wife - if you zoom in you see your messages on IRC 707288;1402149234;fluffypony;you're in blue 707289;1402149235;mircea_popescu;im just trying to bother her :D 707290;1402149240;fluffypony;heh heh 707291;1402149253;pankkake;there seems to be no rule of editing old posts on .lk either by the way. so if interested, I can write it too 707292;1402149296;mircea_popescu;pankkake forums are kinda doomed imo. 707293;1402149415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [+] 707294;1402150243;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/?topic=553092.msg6880213 707295;1402150243;assbot;MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges | Page 9 | Bitcointa.lk 707296;1402150247;mircea_popescu;they are however quite lulzy. 707297;1402150330;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-] 707298;1402150391;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00239829 = 0.4797 BTC [-] 707299;1402150432;pankkake;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet-unmoderated.321563/page-4#post-6841528 he deleted this post. 707300;1402150432;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk 707301;1402150440;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 707302;1402150442;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.5, Best ask: 655.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 653.5, 24 hour volume: 8869.22193161, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 662.0, 24 hour vwap: 0 707303;1402150590;fluffypony;pankkake: what's he talking about? 707304;1402150625;pankkake;interestingly the only one I accused of deleting posts was Goat 707305;1402150638;mircea_popescu;not much of an accusation that 707306;1402150671;mircea_popescu;pankkake what purpose do you suppose adding a hash serves ? 707307;1402150679;mircea_popescu;he whocan modify the post can modify the hash 707308;1402150698;mircea_popescu;proper solution would be to make a gpg key for the forum and sign everything 707309;1402150703;mircea_popescu;sorta like proper mailing lists work 707310;1402150716;pankkake;the main purpose is that people wonder what it is :D 707311;1402150739;mircea_popescu;aok 707312;1402150741;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet-unmoderated.321563/page-4#post-6818061 707313;1402150741;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk 707314;1402150742;mircea_popescu;epic shit. 707315;1402150754;mircea_popescu;Sydboy said: ↑ What does it feel like to be so stupid you lose money, or other people money ?usagi : I don't know. 707316;1402150782;pankkake;the few posts of Goat that were archived show how much he trusted pirate wasn't a ponzi. If you're looking for lulz. 707317;1402150792;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I think Usagi threatened him and he backed down 707318;1402150798;pankkake;and many other guys that have nice great trust and VIP status 707319;1402150803;pankkake;green* 707320;1402150804;fluffypony;he's suddenly apologised for being so mean or whatever 707321;1402150815;mircea_popescu;pankkake well i was there, i remember it. 707322;1402150841;mircea_popescu;the sec is too bitchy to work towards actually putting the guilty in the can tho. 707323;1402150873;mircea_popescu;better waste time/taxpayer money on idle pretense. 707324;1402150879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00085073 = 12.4207 BTC [-] {2} 707325;1402151231;Apocalyptic;!up deanclkclk 707326;1402151246;Apocalyptic;!up deanclkclk 707327;1402151255;deanclkclk;hmm 707328;1402151257;Apocalyptic;deanclkclk, you have to be voiced to talk 707329;1402151264;deanclkclk;ok what was wrong before? 707330;1402151272;deanclkclk;@ Apocalyptic 707331;1402151282;Apocalyptic;noting, you need someone to give you voice 707332;1402151286;Apocalyptic;*nothing 707333;1402151291;deanclkclk;ok thx 707334;1402151297;Apocalyptic;unless you're in assbot's L2 trust 707335;1402151300;mircea_popescu;it won't last either 707336;1402151301;deanclkclk;lol 707337;1402151303;deanclkclk;nope 707338;1402151303;mircea_popescu;!up Swadq 707339;1402151318;Swadq;Thanks :o 707340;1402151324;mircea_popescu;yw. 707341;1402151328;deanclkclk;so I'm in the process of setting up a crypto exchange in the Caribbean 707342;1402151334;deanclkclk;i need some advice 707343;1402151335;mircea_popescu;what, without a wot ? 707344;1402151354;pankkake;fiat/btc? 707345;1402151367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27671344 BTC [+] 707346;1402151402;deanclkclk;fiat trading currencies are USD, CAD, Bahamian Dollar, Trinidad Dollar and Jamaican Dollar 707347;1402151409;deanclkclk;BTC and LTC 707348;1402151460;deanclkclk;I'm trying to go through OKPay system for my setup but, they are extremely slow. Anyone knows of an alternative payment processor which gives an Bank Account for wire transfer? 707349;1402151571;deanclkclk;and also...how can I get trusted by the community ? 707350;1402151588;deanclkclk;I am aware that there is a trust issue going on here with most exchanges 707351;1402151594;mircea_popescu;a) get in the wot ; b) spend the next half year to a year reading hte logs 707352;1402151612;mircea_popescu;by then you'll be trusted 707353;1402151623;deanclkclk;in case anyone is interested and want to know the services I offer...feel free to ask 707354;1402151626;deanclkclk;ok 707355;1402151652;pankkake;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation 707356;1402151652;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 707357;1402151991;pankkake;"We learn the most from our mistakes (myself included!)" 707358;1402152016;mircea_popescu;;;notes 707359;1402152017;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx. 707360;1402152038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27671344 = 0.5534 BTC [+] {2} 707361;1402152099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2767 = 0.8301 BTC [-] {2} 707362;1402152343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00231546 = 0.1297 BTC [-] {7} 707363;1402152383;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/how-bitcoin-helps-afghan-girls-achieve-financial-freedom/ 707364;1402152383;assbot;How Bitcoin Helps Afghan Girls Achieve Financial Freedom 707365;1402152465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27670064 = 0.5534 BTC [+] 707366;1402152740;mircea_popescu;for the love of the stupid seed! 707367;1402152770;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27670054 BTC [-] 707368;1402152831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-] 707369;1402152932;pankkake;http://torrentfreak.com/how-kim-dotcoms-5m-whistleblower-bounty-will-work-140607/ 707370;1402152932;assbot;How Kim Dotcom's $5m Whistleblower Bounty Will Work | TorrentFreak 707371;1402152953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+] 707372;1402152983;pankkake;http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5831 707373;1402152984;assbot;Hoping for the crazy 707374;1402153000;deanclkclk;question mircea_popescu so I have a WOT account..how does it even work in respect to irc chats? 707375;1402153013;deanclkclk;you recommended this to me around Nov last year 707376;1402153014;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0024 = 0.1752 BTC [+] 707377;1402153018;mircea_popescu;;;ident deanclkclk 707378;1402153018;gribble;Nick 'deanclkclk', with hostmask 'deanclkclk!~deanclkcl@bas10-toronto01-845463865.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified. 707379;1402153029;mircea_popescu;you identify. 707380;1402153030;deanclkclk;hmmm 707381;1402153146;pankkake;!up deanclkclk 707382;1402153160;mircea_popescu;you ony get it for half hour. 707383;1402153162;pankkake;!up deanclkclk 707384;1402153168;deanclkclk;ohh ok 707385;1402153178;deanclkclk;why so short? 707386;1402153194;deanclkclk;so yeah you did the ident thing and it said I'm not indentifed? 707387;1402153201;mircea_popescu;yes. 707388;1402153203;deanclkclk;but, as I said..I have my WOT account 707389;1402153209;mircea_popescu;so identify to gribble. 707390;1402153246;deanclkclk;gribble? an alternative to freenode? 707391;1402153256;deanclkclk;I identify myself to freenode FYI 707392;1402153280;fluffypony;deanclkclk: an entirely different set of identifications 707393;1402153294;deanclkclk;ok so I'm lost 707394;1402153295;*;fluffypony deanclkclk: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Beginners_Guide 707395;1402153299;assbot;Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki 707396;1402153299;fluffypony;start there 707397;1402153584;deanclkclk;do I need to have a rating to be known by gribble? 707398;1402153596;deanclkclk;not sure but, I have this account since last nov 707399;1402153598;deanclkclk;deanclkclk 707400;1402153627;pankkake;;;gpg info deanclkclk 707401;1402153628;gribble;No such user registered. 707402;1402153643;deanclkclk;wtf girbble??!!! 707403;1402153654;pankkake;you registered with gribble? 707404;1402153695;Apocalyptic;probably not, he's talking about the nickserv account 707405;1402153704;Apocalyptic;-NickServ- Information on deanclkclk (account deanclkclk): 707406;1402153704;Apocalyptic;-NickServ- Registered : Oct 13 01:14:40 2012 (1 year, 33 weeks, 6 days, 13:53:39 ago) 707407;1402153722;Apocalyptic;as fluffypony said, this is entirely irrelevant to gribble's auth 707408;1402153747;deanclkclk;yeah I heard you Apocalyptic https://www.mywot.com/en/signup 707409;1402153747;assbot;Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust) 707410;1402153752;deanclkclk;that's were I sign up 707411;1402153757;Apocalyptic;that's also irrelevant 707412;1402153758;deanclkclk;where* 707413;1402153767;Apocalyptic;look at the link fluffypony gave you 707414;1402153773;pankkake;that's not the same web of trust 707415;1402153800;fluffypony;LOL 707416;1402153809;fluffypony;deanclkclk: I sent you a link, follow it and read it. 707417;1402153823;deanclkclk;no need to laugh at a novice gribble novice fluffypony 707418;1402153837;fluffypony;I'm laughing that you didn't even bother to open the link and read it 707419;1402153864;deanclkclk;I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance 707420;1402153871;deanclkclk;but, yeah I spend the time and read ti 707421;1402153872;deanclkclk;it 707422;1402153886;pankkake;http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1631 707423;1402153889;assbot;Naming and shaming the AGW fraudsters 707424;1402153928;deanclkclk;by no means I'm a fraud or came here to defraud anyone pankkake 707425;1402153955;fluffypony;deanclkclk: that link he posted has nothing to do with you 707426;1402153968;deanclkclk;plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol 707427;1402153986;mircea_popescu;i did ? 707428;1402154004;deanclkclk;did you forget? 707429;1402154006;deanclkclk;yes you did 707430;1402154013;Apocalyptic;dat mircea 707431;1402154014;pankkake;yeah, read the article :D I'm just dumping my daily read 707432;1402154015;mircea_popescu;link ? 707433;1402154021;mircea_popescu;more productive than rethorical questioning. 707434;1402154032;deanclkclk;only if irc is smart enough to log chat between two nicks 707435;1402154050;mircea_popescu;irc is a network. 707436;1402154052;deanclkclk;and I am not kidding 707437;1402154074;pankkake;#bitcoin-assets has public logs 707438;1402154105;mircea_popescu;pankkake im too lazy to read that, past the chuckle that deanclkclk thought it is about him somehow 707439;1402154112;deanclkclk;I'll rummage through it one day but, not now. Will get back to you mircea_popescu 707440;1402154116;fluffypony;maybe he offered to have your code put down at the vote? 707441;1402154118;fluffypony;*vet 707442;1402154119;fluffypony;ffs. 707443;1402154144;mircea_popescu;deanclkclk well as a general rule don't make statements you don't have backing for at the ready. 707444;1402154155;mircea_popescu;failure usually results in silence, but i guess im in a good mood. 707445;1402154158;deanclkclk;that is true 707446;1402154164;danielpbarron;<+deanclkclk> I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance << what BTC address should I throw my money into! Your company sounds amazing! 707447;1402154164;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 707448;1402154167;deanclkclk;thought you would have remember though if I said it 707449;1402154171;pankkake;mircea_popescu, that's how I feel towards some of your blog posts :) 707450;1402154186;fluffypony;deanclkclk: I would expect that too - after all, mircea_popescu only has 1 or 2 conversations a year 707451;1402154204;mircea_popescu;pankkake i can see that :D fluffypony tops. 707452;1402154237;deanclkclk;danielpbarron: you're free not to throw money at my company 707453;1402154343;mircea_popescu;;;google log.bitcoin-assets ibm 707454;1402154344;gribble;NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; Is Bitcoin Going to Change the World? | Banking industry: ; Decentralised Digital Asset Registers – Concepts | Richard Gendal ...: ; NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 17-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: 707460;1402154445;deanclkclk;if you guys are looking for the log it's found around November-December last year 707461;1402154471;deanclkclk;but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot" 707462;1402154476;deanclkclk;lol 707463;1402154483;Apocalyptic;heh, sounds legit 707464;1402154536;davout;'but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"' <<< surprise surprise 707465;1402154539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0238 = 0.1666 BTC [-] 707466;1402154550;fluffypony;I'm truly shocked that anyone here would say such a thing 707467;1402154577;fluffypony;that certainly doesn't sound eponymous for #bitcoin-assets 707468;1402154590;davout;;;later tell mike_c i want a picture of your warface 707469;1402154591;gribble;The operation succeeded. 707470;1402154620;deanclkclk;surprised that the responses I've gotten today are anything but, unfriendly 707471;1402154634;mircea_popescu;so i have survived the largest shock in my adult life. 707472;1402154649;mircea_popescu;do you know what is remarkable about rubbing alcohol here in buenos aires ? the sort sold in pharmacies ? 707473;1402154661;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: it's not really alcohol ? 707474;1402154670;mircea_popescu;it's not DENATURATED. 707475;1402154680;deanclkclk;? 707476;1402154683;mircea_popescu;it's not denaturated to the degree that the label lists as indications : for rubbing, 707477;1402154685;mircea_popescu;and for making drinks. 707478;1402154702;davout;!down deanclkclk 707479;1402154713;mircea_popescu;cromatographically tested too, they say. 707480;1402154758;davout;mircea_popescu: do you mean you can get a simple chemical without being infantilized away? 707481;1402154781;mircea_popescu;yes. 707482;1402154793;mircea_popescu;alcohol, dude! the original fucking statal assholery 707483;1402154821;mircea_popescu;i mean you could also get it in romania, liter bottles of triple distilled grain alcohol. but in specialist shops. 707484;1402155060;punkman;yeah pure alcohol is pretty fucking handy 707485;1402155151;punkman;can get it in supermarkets/pharmacies here, but it costs 9 eur for 250ml now with all the new taxes, ridiculous 707486;1402155164;mircea_popescu;it's actually a much better (safer) fire starter than gasoline 707487;1402155182;punkman;I use the denatured stuff for that 707488;1402155197;mircea_popescu;well that's slightly unhealthy 707489;1402155199;punkman;which is like 1eur a liter 707490;1402155219;punkman;why is it unhealthy? 707491;1402155240;mircea_popescu;i don't recall whatexactly burn product of methylen blue is dubious but there was something 707492;1402155269;punkman;don't need much if you got kindling, burns off in like a couple seconds 707493;1402155285;mircea_popescu;don't need any if you got clean alcohol 707494;1402155494;punkman;they actually label the denatured stuff as "lamp/lighting" alcohol 707495;1402156125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-] 707496;1402156129;Naphex;sup 707497;1402156383;mircea_popescu;yo 707498;1402156647;mircea_popescu;ah i found a good one 707499;1402156663;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/rationamente-paraeconomice-sau-despre-saracie/ << this is me telling romanians they suck, prolly one of the harshest. 707500;1402156664;assbot;Rationamente paraeconomice, sau despre saracie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 707501;1402156664;gribble;The operation succeeded. 707502;1402156796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76322672 BTC to 8`244 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 707503;1402156986;Naphex;so what is the best cure for rage? 707504;1402157002;fluffypony;alcohol 707505;1402157007;fluffypony;at least for me 707506;1402157011;Naphex;doubt it 707507;1402157011;fluffypony;I don't get booze-aggressive 707508;1402157017;fluffypony;I get really mellow and giggly 707509;1402157035;Naphex;that will turn me on a killing spree 707510;1402157037;Naphex;lol 707511;1402157040;fluffypony;lol 707512;1402157068;fluffypony;Naphex: what's making you rage? 707513;1402157096;Naphex;women doh! i got everything else on lock lol 707514;1402157117;fluffypony;oh lordie 707515;1402157122;fluffypony;chick logic 707516;1402157130;Naphex;bored in vienna 707517;1402157159;Naphex;shit weekend 707518;1402157162;Naphex;j 707519;1402157248;fluffypony;don't worry 707520;1402157251;fluffypony;this too shall pass 707521;1402157254;pankkake;%lb 707522;1402157263;pankkake;%tslb 707523;1402157267;pankkake;%lastblock 707524;1402157268;danielpbarron;<+Naphex> so what is the best cure for rage? << if The Bible ain't your thing, try cannabis 707525;1402157272;pankkake;%diff 707526;1402157281;pankkake;okay 707527;1402157345;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1904 BTC [-] 707528;1402157415;Naphex;danielpbarr 707529;1402157447;Naphex;danielpbarron: only some crappy marocan brown available 707530;1402157470;Namworld;cannabis wouldn't work for me. I'm kind of relax naturally. Give me anything that alters my mind and I'm no longer going to be happy. 707531;1402157473;Naphex;and it isnt workin :p 707532;1402157483;danielpbarron;Naphex, won't find sympathy from me; the cannabis in my local is probably worse 707533;1402157503;punkman;Naphex: how about a walk 707534;1402157564;Namworld;Not that it doesn't have any effect, but because anything that alters my mind and makes it hard for me to think clearly tends to enrage me. 707535;1402157567;pankkake;walks work for me. last time of great stress I walked around for a few hours 707536;1402157650;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00250616 = 0.2757 BTC [-] {5} 707537;1402157661;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/klye-or-confession-of-a-degenerate-adnotated/ 707538;1402157680;Namworld;Walking is nice. Or cycling. Unless you're downtown in a place with no cycling accomodations. Then no cycling. 707539;1402157696;punkman;pff cycle accomodations 707540;1402157778;punkman;can barely keep the streets paved 707541;1402157788;mircea_popescu;Naphex> doubt it << sex ? 707542;1402157791;punkman;but it's nice when the 4x4 don't try to run me over 707543;1402157791;Namworld;I wend to Denmark once... so much cycling space, so few cars. 707544;1402157824;Naphex;mircea_popescu: yeah going for a drive around vienna 707545;1402157825;punkman;yeah denmark and the netherlands are rather wonderful for cycling 707546;1402157833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-] 707547;1402157842;Naphex;gonna check it out maybe i fins a nice puff place 707548;1402157894;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02511077 = 0.2511 BTC [-] {2} 707549;1402157915;mircea_popescu;anyway, yes, generally speaking physical exhaustion. i guess walking can be the same as a spirited bout of skanko-roman wrestling. 707550;1402158199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [-] 707551;1402158626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085318 = 2.7302 BTC [+] 707552;1402159366;Namworld;Reading trilema can be fun. Am I the only one who had some actual success trading shoddy shares? Who else in here managed to trade a profit? 707553;1402159392;fluffypony;Namworld: I'm too scared to even buy in to shoddy shares 707554;1402159457;Namworld;It's not too bad when you don't hold large amounts over extended period but flip shares on the large price difference. 707555;1402159472;Namworld;There's not a lot of that since GLBSE/BitFunder/etc tho 707556;1402159540;mircea_popescu;Namworld a question a little like "am i the only one who won the lottery" 707557;1402159542;mircea_popescu;prolly not. 707558;1402159552;kakobrekla;early day of glbse, whatever you put your money in was a winner after a week and a complete lose after two. 707559;1402159616;Namworld;No, of course, but I only hear of failed funds. Certainly some people in here did it with some kind of success? They're just not as public since investing for themselves. Was looking to hear about any such person. 707560;1402159620;Naphex;google now sends bitbet updates 707561;1402159624;Naphex;not bad 707562;1402159625;mircea_popescu;there's people doing this thing with ponzis (politely known as "hyip") where they send money and try to take it back out before everyone else. 707563;1402159633;mircea_popescu;amusingly enough, this is actually an offense in the western world. 707564;1402159648;kakobrekla;yup, except it wasnt a ponzi it was bubblescam 707565;1402159654;mircea_popescu;Namworld ^ that'd explain to you why they tend to be quiet. 707566;1402159662;mircea_popescu;always at risk for civil clawback + penal proceedings. 707567;1402159712;mircea_popescu;"As for substance abuse I'll admit I like to have a few beers, But for the most part I stay off the drugs as of late." 707568;1402159714;mircea_popescu;epic. 707569;1402159757;kakobrekla;anyway, people had too much coin at the time 707570;1402159759;kakobrekla;still do. 707571;1402159773;mircea_popescu;yeah, but then too much was 5mn 707572;1402159776;Namworld;I wouldn't mind seeing that. 707573;1402159776;mircea_popescu;now, too much is 10-50k 707574;1402159781;mircea_popescu;it'll get shaken out. 707575;1402159795;mircea_popescu;99% to 99.8% complete already 707576;1402159955;Namworld;Too bad I sunk most of those profits into BitVPS which needed servers and everything to no avail. BTC price rose too much afterward. 707577;1402160212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02369589 = 0.237 BTC [-] 707578;1402160359;asciilifeform;!up Vexual 707579;1402160374;asciilifeform;!up Vexual 707580;1402160414;[]bot;Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 464.9239018 BTC. Current weight: 46,470. 707581;1402160561;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ 707582;1402160561;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1120.86 B (86%) on Yes, 186.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 8 months 1 week| weight: 75`215 (100`000 to 1) 707583;1402160569;mircea_popescu;funny how the wall of no let way to a wall of yes. 707584;1402161166;pankkake;but that was a "sure win"! 707585;1402161294;pankkake;Namworld: I had more success trading shit on btctctc than on havecocks 707586;1402161376;thestringpuller;;;ticker 707587;1402161377;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 652.58, Best ask: 654.3, Bid-ask spread: 1.72000, Last trade: 654.88, 24 hour volume: 8329.40537220, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 660.25, 24 hour vwap: 0 707588;1402161417;thestringpuller;;;calc 193000/652 707589;1402161417;gribble;296.012269939 707590;1402161451;thestringpuller;isnt it currently yes? 707591;1402161502;FabianB;"24 hour vwap: 0" 707592;1402161829;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: your cookie shipment is far cheaper now 707593;1402161981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.27999995 = 7.84 BTC [+] {4} 707594;1402162042;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2799999 = 0.56 BTC [-] 707595;1402162103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28 = 0.84 BTC [+] 707596;1402162171;thestringpuller;!mpif 707597;1402162172;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021714 BTC (Total: 434.28 BTC) 707598;1402162177;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 707599;1402162177;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 707600;1402162199;Namworld;That's why I say there hasn't been as much good arbitrage opportunity. Havelock ain't much good. 707601;1402162243;Namworld;Funny thing, arbitrage is normally between 2 markets. For BTC, there's a large price difference on a single market. 707602;1402162255;thestringpuller;lol 707603;1402162280;thestringpuller;am1 - am100 707604;1402165898;benkay; plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol // that'd have been me. 707605;1402165910;Mats_cd03;lol 707606;1402165983;benkay;or was that dotcoin... 707607;1402166367;pankkake;I think it was you and him yeah 707608;1402166434;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02500205 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2} 707609;1402166438;pankkake;http://www.istorage-uk.com/documents/iStorage-datashur-User-Guide.pdf <= So, I bought it. full of lulz, at least it's pretty clear you can't trust it against three letter agencies 707610;1402166465;pankkake;apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas 707611;1402166481;pankkake;and silly PIN requirements 707612;1402166842;pankkake;the most secure part was the package, crappy plastic shell 707613;1402166863;fluffypony;lol 707614;1402166865;pankkake;the key itself is nicely built, perfect for a keychain 707615;1402166881;pankkake;the other secure part is how you need tiny fingers to enter the PIN :) 707616;1402166922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0198202 = 0.1982 BTC [-] 707617;1402166923;pankkake;this serves my intended purpose though, making tampering with it harder 707618;1402167044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-] {2} 707619;1402167188;Mats_cd03;lol 707620;1402167243;Mats_cd03;security through obscurity is a legit layer of defense 707621;1402167258;Mats_cd03;i hope its not the only one though 707622;1402167278;thestringpuller;fluffypony you around? 707623;1402167294;fluffypony;does the pope wear a funny hat? 707624;1402167299;pankkake;I don't have anything that is not software encrypted 707625;1402167659;fluffypony;pankkake: you've been propositioned - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7185435#msg7185435 707626;1402167659;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 707627;1402168061;Namworld;Paint it black too 707628;1402169606;benkay;hey tokyopotato 707629;1402169609;benkay;!up tokyopotato 707630;1402169618;tokyopotato;hey man, thanks 707631;1402169620;benkay;figure out the web of trust yet? 707632;1402169636;tokyopotato;i could use a little help i think 707633;1402169662;tokyopotato;i tried registering... used multibit wallet address... but gribble wouldn't recognize the authentication 707634;1402169703;tokyopotato;so, i was going to try it another way 707635;1402169729;benkay;well i'm having breakfast with a babe atm, so i can't help atm 707636;1402169733;benkay;later ;_ 707637;1402169736;tokyopotato;cool 707638;1402169746;tokyopotato;disfrute 707639;1402169748;tokyopotato;la chica 707640;1402169762;tokyopotato;y desayuno tambien 707641;1402169908;BingoBoingo;tokyopotato: Which version of Multibit? 707642;1402169932;tokyopotato;0.5.18 707643;1402169945;BingoBoingo;WHY???? 707644;1402169966;BingoBoingo;0.5.11 is the last version I can stand, before too many unfeatures got tacked on... 707645;1402169993;tokyopotato;i really just needed to have a pubkey for the authentication 707646;1402170017;BingoBoingo;What's so wrong with GPG? 707647;1402170039;tokyopotato;is that your preferred client? 707648;1402170047;tokyopotato;oh nm 707649;1402170048;tokyopotato;lol 707650;1402170055;tokyopotato;nothing is wrong with GPG 707651;1402170057;tokyopotato;that's what I have to do now 707652;1402170110;tokyopotato;GPG4win decent? 707653;1402170213;mircea_popescu; apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas << herp 707654;1402170216;mircea_popescu;zulu military. 707655;1402170352;mircea_popescu;lmao cryptovest. im waiting for the cryptopants 707656;1402170355;BingoBoingo;tokyopotato: If you have an extra hard drive or machine giving a *nix a try might be useful. I've heard a lot of complaints of GPG4win just not... working... 707657;1402170374;tokyopotato;ya, i do have ubuntu on my other laptop 707658;1402170396;tokyopotato;k 707659;1402170398;mircea_popescu;i have no idea where gpg win gets its entropy from 707660;1402170436;diametric;microsoft 707661;1402170452;mircea_popescu;srsly. 707662;1402170456;mircea_popescu;fluffypony Do you have any concept of the moral high ground? You think you've won some kind of game here -- but you have no idea what you lost, do you? 707663;1402170473;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I know, right? 707664;1402170482;mircea_popescu;whenever some wild eye enthusiast extols "free market" to me ima link them to usagi. 707665;1402170497;mircea_popescu;in a free market anything goes, right ? including that paralyzing nonsense. 707666;1402170519;mircea_popescu;soon enough the expense of distinguishing becomes prohibitive, and the society is split : the very rich, who can afford freedom 707667;1402170528;mircea_popescu;and the not rich enough, whoi can enjoy ipads. 707668;1402170545;fluffypony;"I HAVE SO MANY PLANS. SECRET PLANS. AMAZING BUT HIDDEN PLANS. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. YOU. DON'T. EVEN. KNOW. AND YOU COULD'VE HAD A PIECE OF THE ACTION BECAUSE I AM A BENEVOLENT GOD AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU BUT I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A PIECE. AND NOW YOU FUCKED THAT UP. SO SORRY FOR YOU!" - Usagi, 2014 707669;1402170566;mircea_popescu;that's not the construction i see 707670;1402170591;mircea_popescu;i suspect it's more like "you show yourself to be a bad person by arguing with usagi" 707671;1402170683;fluffypony;there's that too 707672;1402170701;benkay;filter the market with capital barriers, then. 707673;1402170746;fluffypony;you know how they bitch about smoking and they're like "every pack takes 2 days off your lifespan" ? 707674;1402170754;tokyopotato;Usagi = Jed McCaleb? 707675;1402170761;fluffypony;I feel like arguing with Usagi has taken 2 days off my lifespan. 707676;1402170762;mircea_popescu;nah. 707677;1402170771;mircea_popescu;!up sedeki 707678;1402170780;sedeki;thanks 707679;1402170800;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: I swear the most useful side effect of recommending a 6 month reading and waiting period is to sort out the fucking Dice addicts. << on the first tier fo sho. 707680;1402171079;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: See, I can respect certain kinds of gambling like picky sports betting and BitBet. I can't comprehend people who bet against RNGs though. Seems like the fastest way to provide someone else a steady income. 707681;1402171105;mircea_popescu;you know im like 10 or 20 btc ahead on jd do you ? 707682;1402171125;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah. You bet though tto prove a point. 707683;1402171134;mircea_popescu;well sure 707684;1402171171;BingoBoingo;There's a difference between that and the forumer seeking a fortune. 707685;1402171196;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Also, sorry about Halp 707686;1402171200;BingoBoingo;*Halep 707687;1402171234;mircea_popescu;a shelost ? 707688;1402171244;mircea_popescu;i been out on the town 707689;1402171249;BingoBoingo;Looks like it. 707690;1402171282;mircea_popescu;a well. good show anyway 707691;1402171290;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/ << Can't think of many less likely candidates for that award... 707692;1402171290;assbot;BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (45%) on Yes, 0.09 B (55%) on No | closing in 5 months 1 day| weight: 99`454 (100`000 to 1) 707693;1402171345;BingoBoingo;Hamilton excels at the running game, but no one cares about that. Can't hit. 707694;1402171378;BingoBoingo;Exciting player for sure... Just not in the right way. 707695;1402171446;BingoBoingo;!up tokyopotato 707696;1402171508;tokyopotato;ty 707697;1402171751;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 707698;1402171752;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.52, Best ask: 656.16, Bid-ask spread: 2.64000, Last trade: 655.59, 24 hour volume: 6612.05823318, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 656.84, 24 hour vwap: 0 707699;1402171786;pankkake;fluffypony, this is probably true. force yourself to log out! 707700;1402171799;fluffypony;lol 707701;1402171807;pankkake;and accept that some people are beyond saving 707702;1402171937;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599406.msg7180631#msg7180631 omgizz 707703;1402171938;assbot;Cryptovest Financial Services (CVFS) Stock IPO 0.5-4% dividends p/m 707704;1402171942;davout;fluffypony: arguing is only useful if both participants are mature enough to accept that they might have to change their position 707705;1402171982;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: As someone who argued on the forum for quite some time you are tilting against this sort of inevitability: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/pharmacists/ 707706;1402171982;assbot;Its Time for a Change; Pharmacists Tired of Being the Last Stop in a Patients Day | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 707707;1402171988;fluffypony;davout: I keep forgetting that I am not worthy to argue with The Great Usagi 707708;1402172065;fluffypony;ho. lee. fuck. 707709;1402172065;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.0 707710;1402172066;assbot;[EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft 707711;1402172115;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Seriously this miracle is more ikely http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/fibromyalgia-cure/ 707712;1402172115;assbot;Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 707713;1402172211;fluffypony;lol 707714;1402172269;pankkake;guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency" 707715;1402172377;mircea_popescu;well sure 707716;1402172384;mircea_popescu;universally unsecured cyrpto currencies 707717;1402172511;mircea_popescu;"By that point I imagine internet bounty hunters finding your whereabouts are the least of your worries. 707718;1402172512;mircea_popescu;Checkmate! 707719;1402172512;mircea_popescu;You have 2 options:" 707720;1402172523;mircea_popescu;the forum hath spoken! 707721;1402172527;BingoBoingo;If you diversify a bit EMunie guy can be Kumala 707722;1402172547;mircea_popescu;the guy now has two options, including comandeering the idiot's accountand posting his masturbatory selfies 707723;1402172551;mircea_popescu;wait, 3 options 707724;1402172565;mircea_popescu;and also the option to send the internet provider a contract cancellation form 707725;1402172569;mircea_popescu;FOUR OPTIONS 707726;1402172582;davout;but wait, there's more ! 707727;1402172595;mircea_popescu;internet riding unicorn hunterbunterS! 707728;1402172619;davout;!up mdev 707729;1402172662;mdev;thanks 707730;1402172670;BingoBoingo;!up sedeki 707731;1402172671;mdev;pankkake> guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency" 707732;1402172673;mdev;what is that? 707733;1402172703;mircea_popescu;"What awaits you is an existence where you dare not raise your head above water, for the fear of someone, somewhere waiting with a golden axe. I am a calculated man with resources, who can be cunning when needs to be, and I will use all resources that I have to track you down, and I will start with those gold axe's." 707734;1402172709;pankkake;mdev: look at the bitcointalk link 707735;1402172734;mircea_popescu;ahahaha this is kumala and uppity tortilla's son 707736;1402172742;mdev;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/fibromyalgia-cure/ 707737;1402172743;assbot;Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 707738;1402172743;mdev;? 707739;1402172759;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.0. his sig 707740;1402172759;assbot;[EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft 707741;1402172794;mdev;oon after these attacks the assailants gained access to several online services I control, and most certainly had some form of access to 1 or more machines on my home network and also our remote servers. 707742;1402172803;mdev;i don't get how flooding gives someone access 707743;1402172805;mdev;makes no sense 707744;1402172815;fluffypony;pankkake: the "next step" they refer to is "giving everyone access to our funds" 707745;1402172850;BingoBoingo;mdev: Fibromyalgia is a famous diagnosis of "we can't find anything wrong" that many medical professionals assume to be malingerers and drug seekers. 707746;1402172883;mircea_popescu;mdev it's the forum. it doesn't have to make sense, words connote feeling and feeling is all ambitious young folk need. 707747;1402172925;mdev;he's talking about 600 BTC stolen being "spilled milk" 707748;1402172931;mdev;whatever, that's a trmeendous amont of coins 707749;1402172934;mdev;over 300k worth 707750;1402172953;mircea_popescu;a) it's peanuts for an actual business ; b) he never had 100 let alone 600. 707751;1402172958;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.msg7187087#msg7187087 << danielpbarron actually has it. 707752;1402172958;assbot;[EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft 707753;1402172988;CheckDavid;BingoBoingo: that can only be a joke 707754;1402173006;CheckDavid;It is right? 707755;1402173021;mircea_popescu;no, actually, fibromyalgia is non specific pain sundrome 707756;1402173037;mircea_popescu;so pretty much "guy is either insane, addicted or annyoing" 707757;1402173143;fluffypony;mdev: 300k of what? 707758;1402173216;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Some people with the diagnosis move to actual diagnoses. But yeah, the use of the label makes it worthless. 707759;1402173266;mdev;$300k 707760;1402173269;mdev;worth of bitcoins 707761;1402173278;mdev;he just brushed off like "spilled milk" 707762;1402173632;BingoBoingo;!up tokyopotato 707763;1402173650;tokyopotato;ty, almost have pgp setup 707764;1402173785;BingoBoingo;tokyopotato: Ur welcome 707765;1402173799;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot enky 707766;1402173800;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user enky: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=enky | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enky | Rated since: never 707767;1402173810;mircea_popescu;;;rate enky 1 FX guy 707768;1402173812;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user enky has been recorded. 707769;1402173822;fluffypony;!up darlidada 707770;1402173825;mircea_popescu;!up Enky 707771;1402173833;mircea_popescu;now you can self-voice. 707772;1402173845;fluffypony;darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? 707773;1402173848;Enky;Hi, thank you 707774;1402173921;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76192.msg845180#msg845180 707775;1402173921;assbot;#bitcoin-assets [GLBSE/MPEX] now or IRC 707776;1402173926;mircea_popescu;2 years! 707777;1402173937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.02699967 = 0.243 BTC [+] 707778;1402174072;FabianB;;;isitdown mpex.co 707779;1402174073;gribble;mpex.co is down 707780;1402174109;mircea_popescu;it pings... 707781;1402174139;mircea_popescu;but it dun web anymoar! 707782;1402174145;FabianB;hm, coinbr proxy works for me 707783;1402174203;mircea_popescu;a, smartass ddos kid. 707784;1402174258;FabianB;lol, why are they even still trying? 707785;1402174267;fluffypony;boredom I suppose 707786;1402174276;tokyopotato;ill be back later to finish this battle 707787;1402174298;mircea_popescu;!up grahvity 707788;1402174322;mircea_popescu;well, kids are born poor but by the time they reach adolescence they become (at least in their estimation) strong. 707789;1402174335;mircea_popescu;somehow this inequity has to be resolved. 707790;1402174360;mircea_popescu;this being the long version of "boredom" 707791;1402174370;mircea_popescu;!up TarMi 707792;1402174519;darlidada;<+fluffypony> darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? --- yes i'm sitll up for it 707793;1402174526;fluffypony;ok cool 707794;1402174536;mircea_popescu;that's a load. 707795;1402174552;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I know 707796;1402174564;fluffypony;he doesn't have 8 hours a day right now, but he'll get there 707797;1402174569;fluffypony;and I'll fund him till he's done 707798;1402174573;mircea_popescu;pretty cool 707799;1402174578;mircea_popescu;darlidada what's your degree in 707800;1402174579;mircea_popescu;? 707801;1402174581;fluffypony;imho the collection of knowledge is worthwhile 707802;1402174608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31291 @ 0.00085187 = 26.6559 BTC [-] {2} 707803;1402174754;darlidada;mircea_popescu: i've done 3 years in philosophy so far; a bit of accounting/economy before but i wasnt really into it so i forgot most of it. i'm one of these brain-damaged kids you write about. i'm doing my best to cure myself though 707804;1402174754;fluffypony;so you cure yourself through accumulating knowledge :) 707805;1402174754;mircea_popescu;sounds pretty good. 707806;1402174754;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The only accomplishment of feminism this year was this shitty comic by a dude http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2086 707807;1402174755;assbot;Shortpacked! by David Willis - Oy Vey Sex Toy 707808;1402174767;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo don't sel them short, feminists accomplished some spectacular blowjobs this year. 707809;1402174785;BingoBoingo;darlidada: Which is your favorite of Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibitz 707810;1402174807;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But the dude feminist explained the clit exists... 707811;1402174813;mircea_popescu;what is this, handicapping philosophers ? 707812;1402174844;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Like racehorses. Also getting a feel for what someone feels most comfortable reading. 707813;1402174876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37959 @ 0.00084855 = 32.2101 BTC [-] {2} 707814;1402174907;fluffypony;my favourite philosopher is Douglas Adams 707815;1402174908;fluffypony;:-P 707816;1402174929;fluffypony;I wonder if pankkake's ramblings count as philosophy 707817;1402174937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02382 = 0.1191 BTC [+] {2} 707818;1402174944;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: With that question I take two answers as meaningless, one as a suggestion the answerer should be sent to the LISP mines 707819;1402175016;BingoBoingo;Because in three decades if I get a pacemaker I'll be damned if it runs unix 707820;1402175077;mircea_popescu;one of the best things about open space style office and these chairs on rollers they do nowadays 707821;1402175083;mircea_popescu;is that you can play boinking chairs with people. 707822;1402175127;mircea_popescu;also run over chicks in open toe sandals, but hey. no pain no gain. 707823;1402175180;BingoBoingo;offlining 707824;1402175218;davout;mircea_popescu: "also run over chicks in open toe sandals" <<< ouch 707825;1402175243;fluffypony;danielpbarron: I replied to the fucktard on that thread as well 707826;1402175258;darlidada;BingoBoingo: it would be spinoza, but I dont know him that well; its the joy of reading Plato's logos and the joy of reading nietzsche psychological depth that really brought me into philosophy; nowadays it is more political philosophy and logic that i am interested in, the first because it helps me understanding the world i live in, the second because it cures my mind from the 707827;1402175258;darlidada;contradiction the era i grew up in 707828;1402175291;*;fluffypony likes darlidada's worldview 707829;1402175298;Apocalyptic;Nietzche was a great discovery 707830;1402175301;Apocalyptic;(for me) 707831;1402175329;darlidada;i read the 3rd chapter of "On religion" by schopenhauer yesterday. It was a nice discovery from reading mircea_popescu blog:) 707832;1402175369;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: see! he's perfect for this project. 707833;1402175378;darlidada;Nietzsche has the same view than Schopenhauer on books too. I think I read too much for my own health. 707834;1402175390;darlidada;I need to do a blog ahah 707835;1402175429;mircea_popescu;davout well what, they should wear platforms like decent sluts. 707836;1402175457;mircea_popescu;lol you two. 707837;1402175467;mircea_popescu;but yes, schopenhauer is under rated because "romantic" 707838;1402175540;fluffypony;ok darlidada - I will make sure you have a platform to start your work by Wednesday, sound good? 707839;1402175585;mircea_popescu;http://www.medpagetoday.com/images/blogMedia/celebritydiagnosis/Obama-Chia-Pet.jpg 707840;1402175593;mircea_popescu;why not just reuse the wiki ? 707841;1402175613;darlidada;fluffypony: I wont truly be available before the 1rst of july b 707842;1402175625;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I want daily synopsis + dictionary 707843;1402175634;mircea_popescu;so wiki pages can't do that ? 707844;1402175637;fluffypony;darlidada: I know, no need for major commitment till after 1st July 707845;1402175650;mircea_popescu;imo the fewer platforms the better, as a general philosophy. 707846;1402175651;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: not nicely; I played with mediawiki a bit, not happy with it 707847;1402175673;mircea_popescu;the very concept of "platform" is predicatred onm there not being many of them. imagine if there's 500 platforms, the whole thing looks about as flat as chinatown 707848;1402175675;mircea_popescu;!up PedjaT 707849;1402175676;fluffypony;!up darlidada 707850;1402175687;mircea_popescu;dude srsly ?! 707851;1402175716;pankkake;I read Schopenhauer for the insults, and Douglas Adams for the philosophy 707852;1402175721;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: remember, though, I'm throwing money at this in the hope that at some stage someone will go "oh shit, tome of all knowledge, take my dogecoin plc" 707853;1402175736;fluffypony;I can't monetise wiki.b-a 707854;1402175745;pankkake;TarMi!~3d3d@5.79.71.195 has quit: Quit: MIRCEA POPESCU IS AN ASSHOLE! < for those who hide quits 707855;1402175761;fluffypony;lulz 707856;1402175785;mircea_popescu;fluffypony so you seriously expect to monetize PUBLISHED summaries of assets ? 707857;1402175807;pankkake;I would buy a Trilema book 707858;1402175811;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I expect to monetise tl;dr's :) 707859;1402175815;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, this isn't communist Romania 707860;1402175822;Apocalyptic;monetize all the things ! 707861;1402175822;pankkake;but I'll probably eventually ebook it myself 707862;1402175846;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bingoboingo http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2086 << as hanbot points out, who the hell would want to have sex with someone with that attitude ?! 707863;1402175846;assbot;Shortpacked! by David Willis - Oy Vey Sex Toy 707864;1402175846;gribble;The operation succeeded. 707865;1402175866;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic no but i mean... so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what. 707866;1402175922;mircea_popescu;pankkake you mean on paper ? 707867;1402175941;pankkake;yes 707868;1402175965;Apocalyptic;mircea, good question, I was being sarcastic 707869;1402175975;davout;"so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what." <<< same goes for trilema 707870;1402176007;mircea_popescu;davout but i have clear title to the material. 707871;1402176009;mircea_popescu;he does not. 707872;1402176024;fluffypony;logs.b-a is different, though 707873;1402176027;fluffypony;there's no title 707874;1402176032;fluffypony;and in any case 707875;1402176038;davout;indeed, that doesn't really change the point 707876;1402176039;fluffypony;ongoing analysis can reference logs 707877;1402176050;mircea_popescu;moreover, wouldn't it perhaps be more productive to come up with some sort of way of monetizing the wiki if that's the point ? 707878;1402176064;mircea_popescu;i mean, merely the monetization issue is not in fact a good answer to "why make moar platforms" 707879;1402176079;davout;you did not refrain from implementing credits because someone could theoretically come up with freelema, right? 707880;1402176106;mircea_popescu;davout i happen to have this comfortable situation where if someone pisses me off i can actually bury them in legal paper. 707881;1402176128;mircea_popescu;!up TarMi 707882;1402176130;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: but surely it depends on *what* you're monetising 707883;1402176136;mircea_popescu;dude what's your major dysfunction 707884;1402176140;TarMi;Mircea is an asshole! 707885;1402176152;fluffypony;TarMi: I know, right, he's a real cock head 707886;1402176152;mircea_popescu;fluffypony which is why i said, trilema and ba summaries aren't really thesame thing 707887;1402176173;mircea_popescu;you'd think he caught me while i was doing his mom or something 707888;1402176175;davout;mircea_popescu: that sounds like it'd be much more costly to the target than to the attacker 707889;1402176191;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: so analysis of Trilema articles would be open, right? it doesn't preclude credits to the source 707890;1402176197;mircea_popescu;davout i didn't parse. 707891;1402176227;davout;i mean burying someone in legal papers would be costly to you, and it would be easy to work around 707892;1402176242;mircea_popescu;only if you're a bum. 707893;1402176251;mircea_popescu;but if you're a bum, i don't care in the first place. 707894;1402176308;mircea_popescu;fluffypony well, original content is generally one thing, derivative content is generally iffy. 707895;1402176332;davout;or on tor, or whatever, we're digressing here, my point is that monetizing convenience is something i think can make sense 707896;1402176347;mircea_popescu;definitely, but then making a myriad platforms is anti convenience 707897;1402176389;davout;fluffypony make a blog with summaries, use credits 707898;1402176390;fluffypony;yeah but fuckit - I'll host it somewhere and kakobrekla can cname analysis.bitcoin-assets.com 707899;1402176394;fluffypony;davout: exactly 707900;1402176401;mircea_popescu;cause you know, everyone's gonna make one, cause there's nothing easier in the world, exactly the sort of busywork unemplyed webcoders love, and then they'll compete and then before you know it you won't be able to be friends anymore. 707901;1402176407;mircea_popescu;just bad incentive structure. 707902;1402176422;fluffypony;my thinking was WordPress with a "dictionary" plugin that picks up words in posts and links them to "definitions" 707903;1402176443;pankkake;that sounds like a wiki! 707904;1402176443;fluffypony;because easy to paywall 707905;1402176450;mircea_popescu;i don't even recall why the wiki wasn't wp in the end 707906;1402176461;mircea_popescu;iirc i said something then but i don't recall what or how itwent 707907;1402176462;fluffypony;pankkake: wiki links to other articles are not automatic tho 707908;1402176472;fluffypony;plus I fucking hate mediawiki 707909;1402176477;mircea_popescu;fluffypony automatic isn't such a benefit. 707910;1402176478;fluffypony;at least I can control WP 707911;1402176480;pankkake;it's not mediawiki 707912;1402176509;fluffypony;pankkake: either or - I still don't think that letting all-and-sundry edit is good 707913;1402176523;mircea_popescu;afaik ba wiki has a closed editor list 707914;1402176534;davout;call it assetopedia 707915;1402176543;mircea_popescu;ass-to-pedia 707916;1402176564;davout;or just penis 707917;1402176567;pankkake;asspedia, to compete with http://www.boobpedia.com/ 707918;1402176568;assbot;Big Tits - Boobpedia 707919;1402176581;mircea_popescu;o wow this is relevant to my ignorance & interests. 707920;1402176632;mircea_popescu;http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Category:D_cup << fucking name list wtf is wrong with people. 707921;1402176632;assbot;Category:D cup - Boobpedia - Encyclopedia of big boobs 707922;1402176831;mircea_popescu;speaking of http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html hey dub, you still hold the view ? 707923;1402176832;assbot;#bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model 707924;1402177129;fluffypony;got distracted 707925;1402177131;fluffypony;anyway 707926;1402177146;fluffypony;I want darlidada to maintain a "guardian of knowledge" role 707927;1402177173;fluffypony;we can open it later 707928;1402177197;mircea_popescu;thinking about it, you basically want him to run a blog 707929;1402177209;fluffypony;yes - but the key here is analysis and synopsis 707930;1402177223;fluffypony;and it's not to give noobs a lurk-free path 707931;1402177230;fluffypony;but it's more as an ongoing reference 707932;1402177294;mircea_popescu;yeah. platform threw me, but srsly, yu just want to make a blog. 707933;1402177296;darlidada;its true that knowledge is disseminated everywhere, but to be fair trilema bitcoin section already does a very nice job 707934;1402177336;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yep - a blog post for every day that #bitcoin-assets has existed 707935;1402177343;fluffypony;plus the dictionary as an added bonus 707936;1402177365;fluffypony;once darlidada gets to like June last year he's going to have to dip into personal logs 707937;1402177375;mircea_popescu;he is ? 707938;1402177385;darlidada;how should we sort the stuff that happens ? should we sum up everything even random fluff? 707939;1402177447;fluffypony;random fluff is the best 707940;1402177486;darlidada;even on #bitcoin-assets, there is a chat hierarchy, there are chat logs that are important to sum up and chat logs that are just fluff 707941;1402177522;mircea_popescu; random fluff is the best << except the mp theorem is that "bitcoin-assets is the shortest packing possible of all the information it contains". 707942;1402177535;mircea_popescu;so i bet you if you do all the fluff your summaries will exceed the space of the log, prolly 3x 707943;1402177576;fluffypony;buuuuut 707944;1402177588;fluffypony;there's a dictionary too, right 707945;1402177601;mircea_popescu;sure. 707946;1402177602;fluffypony;so the entry for "Mircea Popescu" won't be repeated per-day 707947;1402177612;mircea_popescu;and if you're notwilling to compromise some words will be book length 707948;1402177615;fluffypony;and it will grow as he gets through the logs 707949;1402177621;fluffypony;100% 707950;1402177623;mircea_popescu;the original encyclopedists had the exactsame problem 707951;1402177647;fluffypony;for this I'd hope some entries are extraordinarily long 707952;1402177673;fluffypony;maybe one day we publish a book :-P 707953;1402177885;fluffypony;darlidada: I hope your book-writing skills are up to scratch :-P 707954;1402177909;fluffypony;!up darlidada 707955;1402177924;darlidada;fluffypony wants me to become a philosopher like the one from the french enlightment whereas i wanna become a free spirit like rousseau, though now that i am into bitcoin, im not sure about his love for the demos anymore ;< 707956;1402177942;fluffypony;hah hah 707957;1402177955;fluffypony;on the contrary, I want you to become a cartographer ;) 707958;1402178080;darlidada;interesting, so you want me to map every person and every event within the bitcoin world 707959;1402178115;darlidada;bitcoin asset is our santa maria ;p 707960;1402178157;mircea_popescu;;;later tell mike_c let me know once you approve my comment so i know it hasn't just been swallowed up by the machine and can erase the pasted version i've saved just in case. 707961;1402178157;gribble;The operation succeeded. 707962;1402178189;fluffypony;darlidada: yes - clever tags will provide a map 707963;1402178206;fluffypony;you need to be a curator, essentially 707964;1402178348;fluffypony;this needs a curator - multiple, disparate, dispassionate, uninterested curators don't work 707965;1402178387;mircea_popescu;well i'm sure that multiple passionate, disparate, interested curators will work too :) 707966;1402178453;darlidada;then its good that i've an obsessive personality, im maniac about trilema.com right now; i'm gonna finish reading http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ - and go to bed, gn:) 707967;1402178455;assbot;A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 707968;1402178568;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I'm not against the approach, but I think this needs a more unified approach to prevent a more unified view 707969;1402178587;fluffypony;once everything is "there" it's different 707970;1402178610;fluffypony;but consistency is critical during the initial load 707971;1402179183;mircea_popescu;fluffypony no argument 707972;1402179253;Guest20889;mircea_popescu: The amazing thing about the unfuckable is the variety of ways they can inhere that property. 707973;1402179253;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 707974;1402179411;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/w6ir4L0.png 707975;1402179414;mircea_popescu;this is instructive 707976;1402179428;mircea_popescu;could be the net worth graph of pretty much any forum investment 707977;1402179713;mircea_popescu;. Just fucks me off when I see super rich fucks chuck their money around like confetti. Fiat or bitcoin. ( and yes bit of jealousy, but if I was that rich I would share the wealth in a more meaningful way) 707978;1402179718;mircea_popescu;that's not how you get to be rich. rich people are hated, because they are supposed to be hated. No one has ever gotten elitist rich by following the rules or being nice. 707979;1402179725;mircea_popescu;all together nao... reeeeetardit! 707980;1402179919;mircea_popescu;!up sedeki 707981;1402179926;sedeki;thanks 707982;1402179945;sedeki;mircea_popescu looking for a python developer? 707983;1402179953;mircea_popescu;not specifically 707984;1402179962;sedeki;all right 707985;1402179964;mircea_popescu;someonewaslooking forsomething but i forgot who. fluffy maybe ? 707986;1402180271;mircea_popescu;!up alecpap 707987;1402180290;alecpap;mircea_popescu: thanks 707988;1402180357;mircea_popescu;yw 707989;1402180467;sedeki;mircea_popescu i have a hunch you follow interesting blogs. do you want to share? 707990;1402180499;mircea_popescu;http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ like ? 707991;1402180499;assbot;Assets Assimilated 707992;1402180935;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 707993;1402180937;gribble;Current Blocks: 304716 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1715 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12111100554.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.01575 707994;1402181015;mircea_popescu;"I leave aside the confusion absence of evidence/evidence of absence--and the misunderstanding of the very notion of "empiricism". It is a fact that in the real world of our daily decision-making 1) we do not have much evidence of most relevant things, yet we need to take action; 2) in most situations, "true/false" is never symmetric (one side is more harmful than the other), so the burden of evidence is one-sided. Which 707995;1402181018;mircea_popescu;kes "doing science" lose their tenures after the endowments (and charity) run out of funds, they will be barely fit to do anything in the real-life ecology. I wonder what you can do with an unemployed, say, academic orthodox economist. You could do better with non-post-academic cab drivers. Clearly those the most fit at dealing with "just evidence" will be idiot savants outside their evidence domain." 707996;1402181023;mircea_popescu;i absolutelylove taleb 707997;1402181029;mircea_popescu;this guy is like me, except older and givingmore of a shit. 707998;1402181437;mircea_popescu;"So let me take this into more interesting territory, and express my anti-social-planner views. Even more that in Hayek's days, the ecology of the real world is becoming too complex for Aristotelian logic: very, very little of what we do can be safely formalized, meaning asymmetries matter more than ever. Which puts the Western World today at the most dangerous point in its history: unless we get the Bernanke-Summers cro 707999;1402181437;mircea_popescu;ill eventually be destroyed by the machinery of arrogant, formal-thinking civil servants, and Ivy-league semi-retards." 708000;1402181464;mircea_popescu;"Finally, beyond the current mess, I see no way out of this ecological problem, except through that tacit, unexplainable, seasoned, thoughtful, and aged thing crystalized by traditions & religions --we can't live without charts and we need to rely on the ones we've used for millennia. Le 21e siecle sera religieux, ou ne sera pas!" << someone needs to shout bitcoin at him in such a way that he understands wtf we do here. 708001;1402182716;mircea_popescu;"We prohibit under anathema that murderous art of crossbowmen and archers, which is hateful to God" 708002;1402182887;kakobrekla;http://img.hihi.si/Upload/zDmV.png 708003;1402182923;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 47 @ 0.04405928 = 2.0708 BTC [-] 708004;1402183109;mircea_popescu;wait, wut ?! 708005;1402183112;mircea_popescu;!up chainey 708006;1402183289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 46 @ 0.02367122 = 1.0889 BTC [-] {3} 708007;1402183400;Mats_cd03;youre intent on world domination huh 708008;1402183650;mircea_popescu;if at all possible. 708009;1402183735;mircea_popescu;!up bitcoinhtx 708010;1402183852;mircea_popescu;"So, by tinkering, I figured out that I fare best under the following conditions: no breakfast, working out randomly (but in a lumpy way: long walks & intense weight lifting without a scheduled time limit), "working" randomly, fasting when working out, avoiding modern carbs (and modernized fruits), avoiding contact with economists and finance idiots, taking red eye flights & fasting during episodes of jet lag and similar 708011;1402183863;mircea_popescu;we even fucking do things similarly in many places. 708012;1402184043;mircea_popescu;"Having a risk number is not trivial. It does lead you to do foolish things, even if you knew that the measure was wrong. If I can show that, many people [who offered quantitative risk measures in finance] will have to be held accountable & I can show that! One of Fannie Mae directors, a quack & proponent of Modern Finance charlatanism, kept promoting scientific risk measurement methodologies that do not measure ri 708013;1402184044;mircea_popescu;ately, but lead people to TAKE MORE RISK foolishly thinking they know something. [This is the reason I singled out Fannie Mae in The Black Swan as a firm sitting on dynamite & the International Association of Financial Engineers as a society of snake oil vendors harmful to society]. After > 1 trillion in losses I can safely say that my statement that the banking system has been taking more risks than they thought SHOULD 708014;1402184046;mircea_popescu;SERIOUSLY." 708015;1402184055;mircea_popescu;or, "why forum rating agencies are stupid and people will fucking hang for it" 708016;1402184075;mircea_popescu;"So I hold that giving someone a bad risk measure was just as CRIMINAL as giving someone the wrong medicine. For a long time nobody sanctioned doctors who poisoned their patients. Why dont we take on the proponents of quantitative risk management, put them in jail so they stop harming us?" 708017;1402184204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1666 BTC [+] 708018;1402184387;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00084748 = 30.3822 BTC [-] {2} 708019;1402185112;mircea_popescu;Un vieil homme du nom de Chunglang, qui signifie Matre des rochers , possdait un petit lopin de terre dans les montagnes. Un jour, il perdit lun de ses chevaux. Des voisins vinrent alors lui exprimer leurs condolances pour ce malheur. Mais le vieil homme leur demanda : Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un malheur ? Et voil que quelques jours plus tard lanimal revint, suivi dune horde de chevaux sauvages. 708020;1402185112;mircea_popescu;au les voisins apparurent, pour le fliciter cette fois-ci de cette aubaine. Mais le vieil homme leur rtorqua : Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un aubaine ? Les chevaux tant devenus trs nombreux, le fils du vieil homme se prit de passion pour lquitation, mais un beau jour il se cassa la jambe. Alors, encore une fois, les voisins vinrent prsenter leurs condolances et nouveau le vieil homme leur rtorqua : 708021;1402185113;mircea_popescu;uoi pensez-vous que cela soit un accident malheureux ? Lanne suivante, la commission des Grands Flandrins arriva dans la montagne. Elle recrutait des hommes forts pour devenir valets de pied de lempereur et porter la chaise de celui-ci. Le fils du vieil homme, toujours bless la jambe, ne fut pas choisi. 708022;1402186359;Mats_cd03;!up mdev 708023;1402186387;Mats_cd03;!up mdev 708024;1402186415;mdev;thanks, is the auto-devoice necessary? seems like it'd make more sense that if you temp voiced another user could devoice you if needbe 708025;1402186439;mdev;majority of the channel has no voice currently 708026;1402186551;mircea_popescu;!up mdev 708027;1402186572;mircea_popescu;mdev you're not in thething even already you're improvingit ? 708028;1402186586;Namworld;Well that's a nice little story and all. Although it's true, odds weren't in favor of those outcomes. 708029;1402186614;mircea_popescu;odds are taleb wouldn't think much of your understanding of odds tho 708030;1402186693;mdev;mircea just seems like an obvious problem 708031;1402186697;mdev;and obvious solution 708032;1402186733;mdev;nothing to be afraid of, big channels don't have anywhere near as locked system like in here, and they don't get spammed much/ever and if they do it doesn't last long 708033;1402186749;mdev;besides nothing stopping a spammer from joining, asking for voice, and do their thing 708034;1402186752;Namworld;The little story just seems to point the obvious, aka a good/bad event could end up being a curse/good outcome, respectively. 708035;1402186767;Namworld;Not that I disagree with what came just before the little story. 708036;1402186776;mircea_popescu;mdev spammers have very little to do with it. 708037;1402186787;mdev;then why? 708038;1402186796;mdev;seems inconvient when majority of the channel can't talk 708039;1402186798;mircea_popescu;teaching ignorant snots that out of the [their ideas, their shit] set, the shit element is the more valuable however is central. 708040;1402186817;mdev;inconvenient rather 708041;1402186848;mircea_popescu;Namworld for full context you gotta look at http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/notebook.htm tho, it's a little disconcerto of cvasi-nonsense 708042;1402186875;mircea_popescu;mdev how is that inconvenient ? 708043;1402186923;mdev;because if they want to speak they have to voice themselves, which to even do that have to join some tricky WOT thing, and if they haven't done that they have to burden another user for voice 708044;1402186934;mdev;versus just talking...where's that web of trust? 708045;1402186954;mdev;lettintg users talk, without jumping through hoops, and if they get out of line then can devoice or what have you 708046;1402187002;mircea_popescu;methinks you'll have to spend some time reading the previous discussion on this topic first. 708047;1402187009;mircea_popescu;anyway, im going out. later all. 708048;1402187015;Namworld;Well WOT ain't all that tricky. Took me a little while. Once done I was set. 708049;1402187042;BingoBoingo;knotwork_: You still survived Vircurex? 708050;1402187064;Namworld;What's vircurex again? 708051;1402187071;mdev;well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate 708052;1402187081;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Kumala's runaway scam 708053;1402187239;BingoBoingo;Vircurex was money untl it wasn't 708054;1402187285;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/475427794152067072/photo/1 708055;1402187286;assbot;NBA writer /JeffZillgitt for the win with his quote sheet as if California Chrome was playing in the NBA Finals http://t.co/PpJsvFG4pP 708056;1402187402;BingoBoingo;Halep was so close 708057;1402188535;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00084687 = 8.1655 BTC [-] {2} 708058;1402188646;mike_c;mircea_popescu: comment published. 708059;1402188927;dub;that reminds me, still need to get nxt out of vircurex 708060;1402188937;dub;wich would be easier if the client worked 708061;1402189060;mike_c;;;later tell davout if you want to see my warface you have to try and flip the switch on my computer's power strip after i've told you FIFTY TIMES to stay away from it. 708062;1402189060;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708063;1402189335;dub;%book 708064;1402189340;atcbot;32k@289 65k@280 40k@278 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142 708065;1402189572;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.0008535 = 25.2209 BTC [+] {3} 708066;1402190609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2665481 = 1.5993 BTC [-] {4} 708067;1402190670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.26049931 = 3.3865 BTC [-] {7} 708068;1402190731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00085715 = 7.8858 BTC [+] 708069;1402190731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [-] 708070;1402190914;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.25010518 = 7.7533 BTC [-] {7} 708071;1402191036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.25 = 10 BTC [-] {2} 708072;1402191341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2867 @ 0.00085715 = 2.4574 BTC [+] 708073;1402191463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.00252084 = 0.3252 BTC [-] {4} 708074;1402193537;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00085826 = 19.0963 BTC [+] {2} 708075;1402194437;benkay; well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate // "all" sucks. 708076;1402194441;benkay;!up mdev 708077;1402194454;benkay;;;later tell mdev logping 708078;1402194456;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708079;1402194492;benkay;;;later tell mdev http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ 708080;1402194493;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 708081;1402194493;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708082;1402194696;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30424 @ 0.00085894 = 26.1324 BTC [+] {2} 708083;1402194699;BingoBoingo;!up bloctoc 708084;1402194940;BingoBoingo;So, just called out the complaintant on my Disorderly charge on twittter. Their choices are forgive or fade into irrelevance. 708085;1402195001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2699962 BTC [+] 708086;1402195123;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.269996 = 0.81 BTC [-] 708087;1402195140;BingoBoingo;I will resolve this disorderl charge this weekend 708088;1402195535;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 708089;1402195550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.274 = 1.918 BTC [+] 708090;1402195659;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I have started the push for a return of the passport 708091;1402195944;BingoBoingo;Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence? 708092;1402195991;BingoBoingo;benkay: Do you have one? 708093;1402196010;benkay;fuck no 708094;1402196570;TheNewDeal;4 pack of Polish beers and an empty bitcoin-assets room... the start of a fantastic saturday night 708095;1402196667;Vexual;did yah double down on the diff bet yet? 708096;1402196728;BingoBoingo;lol 708097;1402196734;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 708098;1402196786;TheNewDeal;no that diff bet is going sideways the last couple days 708099;1402196805;TheNewDeal;I'm currently scouting a fine petroleum opportunity 708100;1402196830;BingoBoingo;Yeah, I dun feel good about in anymore. 708101;1402197064;Vexual;ive been playing with turning waste mining heat into distilling power, I wonder how long until crude oil is an option 708102;1402197100;Vexual;I couldn't find uranium 708103;1402197179;Vexual;make your own pretroleum jelly 708104;1402197292;Vexual;its a pickle jar stuck to a peltier stuck to an r-box 708105;1402197544;TheNewDeal;ahhhh 708106;1402197566;TheNewDeal;piece of shit hotel connection, not sure why I even tried in the first place 708107;1402197570;TheNewDeal;couldnt even load gmail 708108;1402197586;Vexual;waiting is the best part 708109;1402197596;Vexual;i get mathanol for the first 12 hours 708110;1402197625;mircea_popescu; Halep was so close << yeah, sucks you know when you bet on a wild horse, and she does 1000 but you needed 1050 708111;1402197634;mircea_popescu;anyway. it was a bitcoin for her good fortune. 708112;1402197645;TheNewDeal;that shit will fuck you up! 708113;1402197672;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu I didn't make that bet, but I understand the sweat involved from making similar bets. 708114;1402197675;Vexual;TheNewDeal: quick as you like 708115;1402197688;TheNewDeal;which bet are you talking about? 708116;1402197698;Vexual;halep to win 708117;1402197729;mircea_popescu; Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence? << not anymoar. 708118;1402197789;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Just trying to follow up on an interesting idea from the lawyer 708119;1402197857;TheNewDeal;mircea_popescu I'm looking for information about the WTI Jan 2015 > $200 because it spoke hedge to me from the beginning 708120;1402197865;mircea_popescu;im sure it was. 708121;1402197880;Vexual;wizzen 708122;1402197885;BingoBoingo;All that is happening is I am asking forgiveness, since after more than a year the prosecution has been incapable of making a case 708123;1402197906;mircea_popescu;so why'd you ask for anything ? 708124;1402197912;mircea_popescu;sue for vexation or w/e it's called 708125;1402197928;mircea_popescu;ill send you a signed letter saying that your failure to show up in timisoara cost you a million dollah. 708126;1402197931;Vexual;thats what i said, look em in the eye 708127;1402197940;mircea_popescu;vexualation lol 708128;1402197941;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Because they offer forgiveness nao or are drafted to blowjobs later. 708129;1402197961;mircea_popescu;here;s free advice : blowjobs from idiots suck 708130;1402197966;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Actually... I think Mr. Drivethrough J.D. could do a lot with that letter... 708131;1402197990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00085715 = 24.3431 BTC [-] 708132;1402197997;mircea_popescu;what's your irl real name again ? 708133;1402198002;BingoBoingo;I think though missing Timisoara cost me much more than one million dollars 708134;1402198037;Vexual;tread lightly 708135;1402198049;TheNewDeal;Frankie D. 708136;1402198054;Vexual;and look confused 708137;1402198065;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: PM'd with public key 708138;1402198097;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Only the uninitiated may tread lightly, be aren't we both initiated? 708139;1402198130;Vexual;i really don't know 708140;1402198146;mircea_popescu;well no but i mean if ima gonna publish this... 708141;1402198147;BingoBoingo;Vexual: We are initiated. 708142;1402198172;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, This is still live through Monday. 708143;1402198228;BingoBoingo;Eh, what can the feds do, my peace offering under the IRL name https://twitter.com/aaronrogier/status/475467740778881024 708144;1402198229;assbot;/DallasCookIL I can offer a juicy reslution, but only if you offer a GPG public key. Like http://t.co/iPs8juiF98 708145;1402198241;TheNewDeal;whats going on? 708146;1402198260;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Imma trying to get a passport 708147;1402198297;Vexual;ahh you know about the good satay 708148;1402198301;BingoBoingo;The thing is @DallasCoolIL fancies himself a conservative... 708149;1402198324;TheNewDeal;aren't passports relatively easy to get? 708150;1402198341;Vexual;i think he wants his back 708151;1402198343;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Not if there is a pending case against you that just won't quit... 708152;1402198357;TheNewDeal;ahhhh 708153;1402198376;BingoBoingo;And let us make this clear. I am never pleading any guilt on this case. 708154;1402198376;TheNewDeal;just as bad as having your nuts in a vise 708155;1402198408;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I nearly lost my nuts to trauma and infection in May, this is a minor problem by comparison. 708156;1402198436;Vexual;tell em you need your passport for a nut infusion 708157;1402198449;BingoBoingo;Having a testicular torsion manually reduced, now that is pain. 708158;1402198467;TheNewDeal;jeeeezus 708159;1402198480;TheNewDeal;I was talking about straight compression 708160;1402198493;BingoBoingo;Being on the edge of founeir's gangrene because docotrs don't understand bacteria, that is pain. 708161;1402198573;BingoBoingo;I make this fuss over the misdemeanor now, because a reasonable person on the other side can by 8:00 CDT on Tuesday decide to drop this issue for their great benefit. 708162;1402198576;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 708163;1402198646;BingoBoingo;If, however they don't want to drop this... Maybe I would like to be county clerk or whatever their fake bezzel job is... 708164;1402198690;Vexual;well if you lost your million dollar job because of someoneelses incopetence, it might be their cheapest option 708165;1402198771;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Not even on that scale yet, but... of my blogs that didn't go viral http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/14/the-failure-of-urbit-and-the-bitcoins-future-of-computing/ was probably the most popular for a reason. 708166;1402198773;assbot;The Failure of Urbit and Bitcoin's Future of Computing | Bingo Blog 708167;1402198773;TheNewDeal;BB, you and I area on the opposite side of this Bas?tilleday bet, no 708168;1402198790;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I am on the no side 708169;1402198796;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 708170;1402198798;gribble;Current Blocks: 304736 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1695 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 33 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11712402881.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.37553 708171;1402198800;TheNewDeal;indeed, I am on the Yes 708172;1402198817;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: You seem to be on the more likely side now. 708173;1402198832;TheNewDeal;true, but the last two days have been quite skittish 708174;1402198868;BingoBoingo;Days are small, weeks are more 708175;1402198886;TheNewDeal;most definitely 708176;1402198895;mircea_popescu;fascinating how every.god.damned.diff.bet ends up such a waffle 708177;1402198899;TheNewDeal;this has been one of my heaviest bets to date 708178;1402198933;TheNewDeal;not true MP, some people don't know how to do basic calculations 708179;1402198940;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I wonder what your tke is on the difference between myself and Tat 708180;1402198949;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/ 708181;1402198950;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 3 weeks 6 days ago 708182;1402199027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00085715 = 3.2426 BTC [-] 708183;1402199037;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo what diff is that ? 708184;1402199168;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I dunno myself beyond he feared mpif an I signed on. 708185;1402199187;mircea_popescu;well link or somthin ? 708186;1402199233;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Just your recent article on what composes a jail 708187;1402199296;mircea_popescu;well then i dunno 708188;1402199391;BingoBoingo;http://trilema.com/an-inventory-of-a-prison 708189;1402199392;assbot;An inventory of a prison pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 708190;1402199393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00085851 = 14.7664 BTC [+] {2} 708191;1402199752;TheNewDeal;MP are you relocating to arhentina? 708192;1402199822;mircea_popescu;already done. 708193;1402199881;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14821 @ 0.00085513 = 12.6739 BTC [-] 708194;1402199947;TheNewDeal;whats the rent like for a mediocre place? like without AC, but with running water and electricity 708195;1402199969;TheNewDeal;I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D 708196;1402200130;BingoBoingo;I swear, i there s a USG agency that can't know exactly who I am... WTF am I being taxed for... 708197;1402200133;mthreat;you wouldn't want a place without AC in december-january in buenos aires 708198;1402200145;Vexual;never been 708199;1402200160;mthreat;it gets around 35-38 degrees C 708200;1402200180;Vexual;your logic is unusual 708201;1402200233;Vexual;some like it hot? 708202;1402200252;Vexual;oh i read you like who 708203;1402200253;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great 708204;1402200269;Vexual;yes and it's usually me 708205;1402200301;TheNewDeal;for the lulz https://twitter.com/miilkkk/status/474935367318376448/photo/1 708206;1402200303;assbot;i asked how good she sucked dick and she sent me this pic http://t.co/S1GeAKyJGn 708207;1402200369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16196 @ 0.00085513 = 13.8497 BTC [-] 708208;1402200407;mircea_popescu; I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D << well yeah, about a dozen orso argentine "experts" took two days to derp about with no results. 708209;1402200431;mircea_popescu;then i called in the cavalry (ie, my own intel dept, english speakers that don't live there) and i was fixed up the same day. 708210;1402200456;TheNewDeal;prices? 708211;1402200465;TheNewDeal;!up Vexual 708212;1402200466;mircea_popescu;anyway, non ac'd places seem improbable, but a few hundred a month should set you up. 708213;1402200498;mircea_popescu;depends, some ukrainian guy i know picked up a chick in the street and moved in with her. no rent. 708214;1402200963;TheNewDeal;intruiging 708215;1402201061;TheNewDeal;and hows the cannabis? 708216;1402201159;mircea_popescu;i don't do pot. 708217;1402201306;TheNewDeal;mostly kidding, I think I remember that from before 708218;1402201321;TheNewDeal;us weed fiends are a rare breed in B-A 708219;1402201355;TheNewDeal;have you ever? 708220;1402201436;Vexual;yeah about 200 years ago 708221;1402201441;Vexual;*2000 708222;1402201476;mircea_popescu;sure 708223;1402201504;mircea_popescu;but no, not so rare, you can generally smell it all over the place. 708224;1402201561;TheNewDeal;and do their rivers generally flow north? 708225;1402201601;mircea_popescu;uh 708226;1402201608;mircea_popescu;i have no idea. the shrimp isprettygood tho 708227;1402201833;TheNewDeal;ooooh looks like argentina has decriminalized possession, muchos progressivos 708228;1402201949;mircea_popescu;they also have gays now 708229;1402201989;Vexual;have you eaten pirhana? 708230;1402202001;mircea_popescu;what's this, soviet amazonia ? 708231;1402202008;mircea_popescu;piranha eats you. 708232;1402202010;TheNewDeal;hahahha whaaaat 708233;1402202205;mthreat;freal - piranha attack in january: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542176/Ten-people-savaged-flesh-eating-piranhas-Argentinian-river-tried-cool-blistering-41C-heat.html 708234;1402202206;assbot;Ten people savaged by flesh-eating piranhas in Argentinian river as they tried to cool off in blistering 41C heat | Mail Online 708235;1402202254;TheNewDeal;holy sh!t those things look nasty 708236;1402202390;TheNewDeal;just hope the men had a bathing suit on 708237;1402202487;TheNewDeal;has anyone heard any recent news about bitcoin banking and cannabis sales in colorado? 708238;1402202651;TheNewDeal;would be nice if they could peg the price of bitcoin to an ounce or something for a week 708239;1402202711;TheNewDeal;or actually it would be the other way around 708240;1402202961;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/im-fresh-out-of-titles-try-again-tomorrow/ 708241;1402203419;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12589 @ 0.00085513 = 10.7652 BTC [-] 708242;1402203480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00085497 = 4.4416 BTC [-] 708243;1402204435;TheNewDeal;tikka massala is one of the greatest indian gifts to man 708244;1402204507;cazalla;don't forget the cheese naan 708245;1402204861;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.378482 BTC. Current weight: 61,192. 708246;1402205005;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00085397 = 21.6908 BTC [-] {2} 708247;1402205178;TheNewDeal;I also love the naan with nuts on it 708248;1402205195;TheNewDeal;can't remember what it's called at the restaurant i frequent 708249;1402205575;cazalla;do you like rabbit? i've got one going in the slow cooker, will be nice 708250;1402205817;cazalla;wifes friends and some family turn their nose up at it like i'm offering them the same chicken mcnuggets they toss down their gullet 708251;1402205839;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal word. esp for lamb. 708252;1402205853;mircea_popescu;cazalla yeah, rabbit in rosemary:D 708253;1402205872;TheNewDeal;had some pretty tasty goat curry at an indian buffet tonight 708254;1402205902;TheNewDeal;reminded me of a time I invited some friends over for a meal that someone cooked for us, and one of them swallowed a goat bone (he hadn't had goat before) 708255;1402206188;TheNewDeal;never had rabbit before 708256;1402206244;cazalla;similar to chicken if you butcher prior to sexual maturity 708257;1402206353;cazalla;i have a small rabbitry, it's a fun hobby and satisfying watching them go from conception to the plate 708258;1402206386;TheNewDeal;how do you keep the numbers managable, don't they fuck like... rabbits? 708259;1402206477;cazalla;eat them 708260;1402206499;mircea_popescu;the natural way lol 708261;1402206499;cazalla;good to butcher around 8-9 weeks 708262;1402206592;TheNewDeal;ok so approx how many are alive right now in your rabbitry? 708263;1402206633;cazalla;1 buck, 2 does, 7 from last litter left, other doe is due to have them in 8 days 708264;1402206780;TheNewDeal;oh my gosh. Gold from yahoo answers "Unspayed female: drastically shorter lifespan due to a high rate of reproductive cancer (85% unaltered females die of it before 5 years of age). Extremely territorial, some can be very aggressive, the intensity is often higher than a buck. You have to deal often with 'false pregnancies' where she will pull out large chunks of fur, nest, and get moody and extra-territorial, often for mont 708265;1402206800;TheNewDeal;fucking false pregnancies 708266;1402206832;cazalla;yeah, they're aggressive 708267;1402206837;cazalla;females will fuck the males too 708268;1402206883;TheNewDeal;why did you decide on rabbits? 708269;1402206963;cazalla;they don't take up much room (i have a run for them so they can dig, eat grass though), cheap to feed and the meat is lean 708270;1402207020;cazalla;i'll show ya a pic 708271;1402207088;benkay;lean meat? 708272;1402207099;benkay;what is this us brainwashing against fat 708273;1402207101;benkay;fat is good for you. 708274;1402207111;benkay;i miss the cream in argentina. 708275;1402207115;benkay;it's downright viscous. 708276;1402207120;benkay;!up Vexual 708277;1402207147;Vexual;rabbit is one of the most delicious things to eat 708278;1402207166;cazalla;http://i.imgur.com/oQQPD7f.jpg 708279;1402207205;TheNewDeal;jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article 708280;1402207237;Vexual;not much grass there cazalla 708281;1402207252;TheNewDeal;cazalla they cant hop over that fence on the right? 708282;1402207274;cazalla;Vexual: they get out and go up the side, more grass there but they get all sorts of food from us 708283;1402207299;cazalla;TheNewDeal: they probably could but none are yet to try 708284;1402207354;TheNewDeal;they look so tasty and full of albinism 708285;1402207356;cazalla;compared to a commerical rabbitry, they have it pretty good 708286;1402207408;Vexual;i could just sip brut cuvee and smell that slow cooker for hours 708287;1402207459;cazalla;yeah, kitchen smells of cab sav, garlic, rosemary, tomatoes 708288;1402207546;Vexual;how long in the slow cooker? 708289;1402207566;cazalla;7-8 hours on low 708290;1402207571;Vexual;oh 708291;1402207597;cazalla;you can do quicker in oven, 90mins but veggies aren't as good 708292;1402207661;Vexual;i like to slow cook 708293;1402207743;Vexual;the way the flavours develop 708294;1402207753;Vexual;dyou ever get goat? 708295;1402207783;cazalla;i've had it but not for a while 708296;1402207822;Vexual;chuck some cumin in and drink shiraz til its done 708297;1402208521;Vexual;on selecting and enjoying brut curvee: 708298;1402208590;Vexual;this guide is not for you, but read it anyaway 708299;1402208604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00007052 = 0.2116 BTC [-] {2} 708300;1402208740;Vexual;dear reader, theres a grape with a name, from some faggoty hill in france, but its not about a time or a place or a name face or a taste or a style 708301;1402208781;Vexual;well it might be a taste 708302;1402208860;Vexual;i don't claim to be expert 708303;1402208908;Vexual;it is a fucking taste 708304;1402208966;Mats_cd03;ur gay 708305;1402209092;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21234 @ 0.00085325 = 18.1179 BTC [-] 708306;1402209311;benkay;there's gotta be good soil down in ars 708307;1402209318;benkay;just have to find it is all. 708308;1402209889;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/frontin-pharrell-ft-jay-z-disclosure-re-work 708309;1402209890;assbot;Frontin' - Pharrell ft. Jay Z (Disclosure Re-Work) by Disclosure on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 708310;1402210251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00085325 = 3.8635 BTC [-] 708311;1402210295;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/electricyouthmusic/innocence 708312;1402210296;assbot;Electric Youth - Innocence by Electric Youth (Official) on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 708313;1402211288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085446 = 15.6366 BTC [+] {2} 708314;1402212325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-] 708315;1402212630;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00085242 = 14.9174 BTC [-] {2} 708316;1402213972;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0203 = 0.1624 BTC [+] 708317;1402214704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25741559 = 0.7722 BTC [-] {2} 708318;1402214765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25335334 = 0.7601 BTC [-] {2} 708319;1402214826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.24378666 = 2.1941 BTC [-] {3} 708320;1402214887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.242 = 2.42 BTC [-] 708321;1402216107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00085449 = 20.0378 BTC [+] 708322;1402216168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.241 BTC [-] 708323;1402217266;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085471 = 15.6412 BTC [+] {2} 708324;1402217512;FabianB;mpexbot is gone? 708325;1402217571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26899 BTC [+] 708326;1402217977;FabianB;kakobrekla: can you include former mpexbot commands $depth, $vwap and $proxies into assbot ? 708327;1402218120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0008522 = 14.6578 BTC [-] 708328;1402219706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0008522 = 29.4009 BTC [-] 708329;1402220438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0737 = 0.4422 BTC [-] 708330;1402221963;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1975 @ 0.00085501 = 1.6886 BTC [+] 708331;1402222251;dub;is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop? 708332;1402222329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085501 = 16.2452 BTC [+] 708333;1402222393;dub;and why is there a small boat next to him on the couch 708334;1402223122;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00085501 = 8.5073 BTC [+] 708335;1402223549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00085571 = 19.3818 BTC [+] {3} 708336;1402226172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00085216 = 10.0555 BTC [-] {4} 708337;1402226416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07451065 = 1.1177 BTC [+] {5} 708338;1402226538;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14541 @ 0.00085152 = 12.382 BTC [-] 708339;1402227697;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16757 @ 0.00085014 = 14.2458 BTC [-] {2} 708340;1402230419;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/nine-best-cryptocurrency-tattoos/ :| 708341;1402230419;assbot;Nine of the Best Cryptocurrency Tattoos 708342;1402230905;fluffypony;LOL 708343;1402230908;fluffypony;Bitcoin Life 708344;1402230909;fluffypony;lol!!! 708345;1402230930;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11463 @ 0.00085043 = 9.7485 BTC [+] {2} 708346;1402231418;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07475576 = 0.9718 BTC [+] {2} 708347;1402232821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07476 = 0.7476 BTC [+] 708348;1402233055;thestringpuller;;;seen BingoBoingo 708349;1402233055;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great 708350;1402233063;thestringpuller;;;later tell BingoBoingo was out cold 708351;1402233063;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708352;1402233919;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02394 = 0.1197 BTC [-] 708353;1402233980;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0200005 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2} 708354;1402234102;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.02323145 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {5} 708355;1402234468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18337 @ 0.00085424 = 15.6642 BTC [+] 708356;1402234506;thestringpuller;!mpif 708357;1402234508;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC) 708358;1402234519;thestringpuller;!last m f.mpif 708359;1402234519;assbot;Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 708360;1402234533;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 708361;1402234533;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (124310 shares, 26.99 BTC) 708362;1402234651;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 240 @ 0.04405928 = 10.5742 BTC [-] 708363;1402234763;kakobrekla;!mpif 708364;1402234764;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 708365;1402234775;kakobrekla;added !last to !mpif call 708366;1402235416;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00085029 = 6.7249 BTC [-] 708367;1402236230;thestringpuller;!last mpif 708368;1402236230;assbot;Have you got any tobacco? 708369;1402236240;thestringpuller;oh 708370;1402236241;thestringpuller;!mpif 708371;1402236242;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.43 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 708372;1402236453;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-] 708373;1402236514;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00085101 = 2.0424 BTC [+] 708374;1402236880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0268 = 0.1608 BTC [-] 708375;1402239015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [-] 708376;1402239076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12609 @ 0.00084984 = 10.7156 BTC [-] {2} 708377;1402240903;mircea_popescu;someonme should make a cheese flavbour chewing gum 708378;1402241036;mircea_popescu;benkay: i miss the cream in argentina. << dude you have no idea what cream is. go to transylvania, have some, let me know. 708379;1402241042;mircea_popescu;the cream here is like... okay. tolerable. 708380;1402241247;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article << I'm the king of the footnotes, the references V.I.P 708381;1402241468;mircea_popescu;I reached the top and had to stop and that's what bothering me 708382;1402241599;mircea_popescu;Vexual: i like to slow cook the way the flavours develop << aye. 708383;1402241721;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mircea-popescu-is-an-asshole/ 708384;1402241735;dignork;https://www.startjoin.com/trollc this will end in tears 708385;1402241873;mircea_popescu;benkay: there's gotta be good soil down in ars << good soil requires three to six millenia's worth of menarche spilled on it. argentina soil will get there right about year 6000 708386;1402241952;mircea_popescu;FabianB: mpexbot is gone? << smickles kinda disappeared sadly. would you like to run a mpexbot clone ? 708387;1402242000;mircea_popescu;dub: is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop? << some peeps are old skool like that dubsy. you wouldn't understand. 708388;1402242085;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: added !last to !mpif call << pretty cool. 708389;1402242187;mircea_popescu;!up Littlep1 708390;1402242196;Littlep1;^^ 708391;1402242222;mircea_popescu;and who might you be ? 708392;1402242228;Littlep1;Malcolm 708393;1402242232;kakobrekla;wait so the dude did take mpex offline or am i reading this wrong 708394;1402242260;Littlep1;;;auth Littlep1 708395;1402242260;gribble;Error: You have not registered a GPG key. Try using bcauth instead, or register a GPG key first. 708396;1402242265;kakobrekla;i mean the proxyies or smth 708397;1402242266;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla for some definition of offline 708398;1402242274;FabianB;mircea_popescu: assbot only lacks 3 commands, if kakobrekla doesn't like to integrate them i can run an mpexbot clone, but i'd prefer the assbot route 708399;1402242274;Littlep1;;;bcauth Littlep1 708400;1402242274;gribble;Request successful for user Littlep1, hostmask Littlep1!56b01083@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.176.16.131. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:24085ba1a630433bf9128bdd9cb371bdf715a1d6151ef7edb327f8d2 708401;1402242290;mircea_popescu;FabianB meanwhile i'd prefer two bots. what if kako gets sick one day 708402;1402242292;kakobrekla;yeah ill put them on 708403;1402242300;fluffypony;I wanna be a man, man cub 708404;1402242306;mircea_popescu;(also i'll pay for teh hosting of it) 708405;1402242306;fluffypony;and roll right into town 708406;1402242310;*;fluffypony sings 708407;1402242315;mircea_popescu;fluffypony great cartoon eh 708408;1402242315;fluffypony;now I have that stuck in my head 708409;1402242340;kakobrekla;whats the url to that stuff again 708410;1402242345;fluffypony;it's among my favourites 708411;1402242374;mircea_popescu;http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php ? 708412;1402242383;kakobrekla;aha k 708413;1402242391;Littlep1;;;msg +mircea_popescu Thank you 708414;1402242392;gribble;Error: "msg" is not a valid command. 708415;1402242396;FabianB;mircea_popescu: hosting costs are not an issue, let me think about it; maybe we can do both, an mpexbot clone and kako integrating the missing commands as well (so an irc client doesn't have to rely on both) 708416;1402242404;mircea_popescu;yup 708417;1402242406;kakobrekla;Littlep1 less syntax 708418;1402242432;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust Littlep1 708419;1402242433;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Littlep1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Littlep1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Littlep1 | Rated since: Sun Jun 8 09:51:05 2014 708420;1402242459;Littlep1;:) I am not ashamed to say I have no clue what the hell is going on 708421;1402242461;mircea_popescu;o i c. 708422;1402242462;mircea_popescu;lol 708423;1402242471;FabianB;kakobrekla: /mpex-mktdepth.php, /mpex-vwap.php 708424;1402242473;mircea_popescu;;;google towlie 708425;1402242474;gribble;Towelie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; South Park Towlie on Drugs - YouTube: ; Towelie's Best Moments - YouTube: 708426;1402242490;Littlep1;By the grace of god with the few brain cells in my head im going to crack this thing 708427;1402242494;kakobrekla;yes the vwap is already implemented FabianB , that is the ticker cmd 708428;1402242497;Littlep1;or my skull 708429;1402242540;FabianB;kakobrekla: yeah, but not with raw json 708430;1402242576;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 so what do you do, other than btctardstalk 708431;1402242587;kakobrekla;Littlep1 this box you seen on the screen, you type stuff in and everyone that is connected in that box can see 708432;1402242597;Littlep1;I see how do i Pm then ? 708433;1402242601;mircea_popescu;/query name 708434;1402242608;FabianB;kakobrekla: if mpex.co is down and mpex only reachable by ircbots traders want to know the full orderbook (depth) and raw vwap 708435;1402242645;kakobrekla;waddayamean raw vwap 708436;1402242652;kakobrekla;ticker has it all no? 708437;1402242674;kakobrekla;im not talking about depth now 708438;1402242686;mircea_popescu;!t m s.mpoe 708439;1402242687;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084612 / 0.00085343 / 0.00085939 (640220 shares, 546.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00079351 / 0.00085994 / 0.0008834 (5312758 shares, 4,568.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00079351 / 0.00090996 / 0.00101 (25156123 shares, 22,891.24 BTC) 708440;1402242694;FabianB;kakobrekla: for all simbols (and parseable) 708441;1402242709;kakobrekla;want it snailmailed too? 708442;1402242712;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: why you lookin' up towelie? 708443;1402242714;mircea_popescu;lol 708444;1402242725;thestringpuller;are you a towel? 708445;1402242727;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller well this guy was like "i have no idea what's going on" 708446;1402242737;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.02689996 = 0.1614 BTC [+] {2} 708447;1402242738;thestringpuller;cause he's a towel! 708448;1402242740;Littlep1;hahaha 708449;1402242743;thestringpuller;"no you're a towel" 708450;1402242755;FabianB;kakobrekla: mpexbot used to make a pastie with a copy of the json 708451;1402242757;Littlep1;Not watched SP in ages 708452;1402242757;mircea_popescu;i am 12 and what's a towel. 708453;1402242765;kakobrekla;FabianB ok that i can do 708454;1402242798;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02699977 = 0.135 BTC [+] 708455;1402242859;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00084804 = 26.0348 BTC [-] {2} 708456;1402242898;mircea_popescu;1.) mircea_popescu 1753 2.) assbot 1632 dat assbot, putting up an amazing fight 708457;1402242898;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 708458;1402242904;mircea_popescu;ty. 708459;1402242941;mircea_popescu;but irrespective of your amazing powers of resistence, you will be ass imiliated. 708460;1402242941;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 708461;1402242960;assbot; fuck you 708462;1402242966;mircea_popescu;llol 708463;1402243005;mircea_popescu;1.) assbot 7081 2.) mircea_popescu 7015 THIS INIQUITY CAN NOT STAND! 708464;1402243137;FabianB;mircea_popescu: do you have the code of mpexbot? 708465;1402243151;Littlep1;/msg 708466;1402243160;Littlep1;-_- 708467;1402243160;kakobrekla;nope 708468;1402243162;Littlep1;omg 708469;1402243166;mircea_popescu;i will just as soon as smickles gets back online ;/ 708470;1402243173;mircea_popescu;FabianB ima shoot him an email. 708471;1402243188;kakobrekla;Littlep1 perhaps you can double click my name from the list and type something in there 708472;1402243193;kakobrekla;if anything happens 708473;1402243196;mircea_popescu;that works in webirc ? 708474;1402243197;Littlep1;this is so embarrassing 708475;1402243206;kakobrekla;i think so 708476;1402243209;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 AND it's being recorded for all prosterity. 708477;1402243210;kakobrekla;dunno 708478;1402243213;FabianB;mircea_popescu: ah, great, well, if not we can rewrite it, but not unless needed 708479;1402243215;Littlep1;hahhaha 708480;1402243224;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.86802792 BTC to 8`734 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 708481;1402243229;Littlep1;at least your making sure I have a good time 708482;1402243250;Littlep1;i'm going to force each one of my brokers to get this done after me and watch them all suffer 708483;1402243255;kakobrekla;anyway, remove the space before / and all the < and > you typed, then it should werk 708484;1402243279;Littlep1;kk thnkx ill try again 708485;1402243301;kakobrekla;if it throws an error try "/query kakobrekla" instead of whatever else 708486;1402243360;mircea_popescu;!up nullbyte 708487;1402243404;Littlep1;did th...hmm it says no such nick/channel 708488;1402243428;kakobrekla;well i dunno 708489;1402243435;kakobrekla;im not a webchat expert! 708490;1402243461;kakobrekla;well, great success nao 708491;1402243462;Littlep1;THANK YOU ^^ 708492;1402243485;kakobrekla;step 1 complete 708493;1402243495;kakobrekla;you have still a few min left to complete the rest 399 steps 708494;1402243510;kakobrekla;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation 708495;1402243510;assbot;wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] 708496;1402243511;mircea_popescu;lol 708497;1402243518;kakobrekla;no wrong link 708498;1402243519;kakobrekla;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 708499;1402243519;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 708500;1402243520;Littlep1;:) 708501;1402243521;kakobrekla;this one 708502;1402243532;Littlep1;This is like my right of passage 708503;1402243551;Littlep1;mircea you won't remember but i sent you a Pm i think last year thanking you ^^ 708504;1402243564;mircea_popescu;where ? 708505;1402243577;Littlep1;If your the same person I think you are on Bitcoin talk 708506;1402243633;mircea_popescu;a, that was mpoe-pr 708507;1402243662;mircea_popescu;lol dude stop pming me 708508;1402243668;Littlep1;sorry 708509;1402243689;kakobrekla;i taught him that. 708510;1402243693;Littlep1;ahahahha 708511;1402243701;Littlep1;for the world to know foreverr 708512;1402243726;mircea_popescu;lol sabotage 708513;1402243731;Littlep1;God you must all be so funny in real life 708514;1402243763;Littlep1;You literally have had me laughing my ass off over here 708515;1402243802;kakobrekla;yeah well read the logs 708516;1402243804;kakobrekla;:p 708517;1402243814;kakobrekla;;;topic 708518;1402243814;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 708519;1402243842;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMoDUBIg00 708520;1402243842;assbot;That's NOT funny!!! - YouTube 708521;1402243883;Littlep1;mircea_popescu I are you liked to Mpex ? 708522;1402243910;mircea_popescu;i am well liked and admired by my subjects yes 708523;1402243913;mircea_popescu;what was the question ? 708524;1402243970;Littlep1;Just curious recently i made a post on Bitcoin talk to list all fradualent compaines i'm creating a list of corproate failres ect ect and people were accusing Mpex of false volumes or something. Some users equally defended Mpex reqesting proof 708525;1402243977;Littlep1;omfg 708526;1402243982;Littlep1;linked to Mpex * 708527;1402243993;mircea_popescu;a. yes, we share some initials. 708528;1402244003;Littlep1;^^ :) 708529;1402244007;Littlep1;If i ever meet you 708530;1402244011;Littlep1;im buying you a drink 708531;1402244032;mircea_popescu;pretty good famous last words. 708532;1402244053;kakobrekla;you know, i could up him. 708533;1402244069;mircea_popescu;trying to decide which way is funnier 708534;1402244090;mircea_popescu;!up Littlep1 708535;1402244097;kakobrekla;was just about to dice it. 708536;1402244106;Littlep1;I'm aliveeee 708537;1402244119;mircea_popescu;can you chain actions on gribble's dice ? 708538;1402244155;kakobrekla;prolly i could 708539;1402244159;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 you can meet me next year. http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ 708540;1402244161;assbot;The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 708541;1402244192;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla do this thing : !dup Littlep1 results in assbot going ;;dice and upping on heads 708542;1402244209;mircea_popescu;;;coin 708543;1402244209;kakobrekla;hm 708544;1402244209;gribble;tails 708545;1402244210;mircea_popescu;i mean 708546;1402244231;kakobrekla;not sure whats the point of gribble, dont you trust my pnrg?? 708547;1402244239;mircea_popescu;for display 708548;1402244244;mircea_popescu;so the noob sees it lol 708549;1402244247;kakobrekla;posterity 708550;1402244256;Littlep1;:) 708551;1402244264;Littlep1;i'm not ashamed I know what I am 708552;1402244269;kakobrekla;imma go out now, later. 708553;1402244276;Littlep1;thanks again mate 708554;1402244283;mircea_popescu;holy shit kako goes out now ?! 708555;1402244288;mircea_popescu;how long have i been asleep! 708556;1402244296;kakobrekla;dun worry its not too far. 708557;1402244302;Littlep1;xD 708558;1402244309;mircea_popescu;aok 708559;1402244509;Littlep1;I'll study that guide and give it a go later. Interesting I often read the Trilema blog back in the day 708560;1402244603;mircea_popescu;what day was that ? 708561;1402244624;mircea_popescu;and who were you on btctalk -pr wants to know ? 708562;1402244720;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust bitstein 708563;1402244720;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitstein | Rated since: Thu May 29 11:37:42 2014 708564;1402244729;Littlep1;Malcolm .. oh wait Little P bit 708565;1402244735;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitstein re http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-100549 remind me, which service do you run ? 708566;1402244736;assbot;The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 708567;1402244736;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708568;1402244760;Littlep1;Little P 1 708569;1402244786;Littlep1;is my bitcoin talk adde 708570;1402244799;mircea_popescu;aite. 708571;1402244802;Littlep1;Pr put a post up about crypto start ups in 2013 708572;1402244828;Littlep1;and i thought it was really good so I sent him/her a pm thanking them since I made use of it when setting up my own 708573;1402244835;mircea_popescu;aha 708574;1402244867;mircea_popescu;so what crypto start-up is this ? 708575;1402244916;Littlep1;It's only small im trying to create crypto investment products in the UK its called Cryptovest 708576;1402244929;Littlep1;Cryptovest Financial Services 708577;1402244950;mircea_popescu;what's your background ? 708578;1402244953;Littlep1;My hope is to educate more non techy people on getting involved with crypto currencies 708579;1402244955;Littlep1;banking 708580;1402244959;Littlep1;private equity 708581;1402244962;Littlep1;asset managment 708582;1402244963;pankkake;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2014#707655 708583;1402244963;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 708584;1402244964;Littlep1;risk analysis 708585;1402244987;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 that's vague. specifically, what;s your background. 708586;1402244993;Littlep1;sorry not Cryptovest 708587;1402245007;Littlep1;search me on google dude wait do u mind if I pm you now ? 708588;1402245030;mircea_popescu;yes. i don't carry private conversations with people i don't know. 708589;1402245041;mircea_popescu;i'm sure anything you want to say to me can be said here as well. 708590;1402245050;Littlep1;Yea i guess 708591;1402245055;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11162 @ 0.00084778 = 9.4629 BTC [-] {2} 708592;1402245064;Littlep1;give me a moment ill find you a link 708593;1402245231;Littlep1;http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/Malcolm_Oluwasanmi 708594;1402245232;assbot;Malcolm Oluwasanmi - timetotrade 708595;1402245270;Littlep1;what did assbot just do did it reach the code and then auto post under it 708596;1402245293;Littlep1;I have alot to learn 708597;1402245294;mircea_popescu;yea 708598;1402245316;Littlep1;Right thats alot from when i spoke about bitcoin to some HNW investors 708599;1402245336;Littlep1;http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/National_Investment_Club_Conference 708600;1402245336;assbot;National Investment Club Conference - timetotrade 708601;1402245408;Littlep1;Mostly spoke about volatile , hedging , methods to reduce risks with exotic currencies and applying the same methods to crypto currencies with the application of a risk engine. 708602;1402245433;Littlep1;volatility* 708603;1402245441;mircea_popescu;a so you worked for bri and then went out on your own 708604;1402245446;Littlep1;nope 708605;1402245449;Littlep1;then i wen 708606;1402245451;Littlep1;give me a moment 708607;1402245501;Littlep1;http://lmgtfy.com/?q=malcolm+oluwasanmi 708608;1402245501;assbot;Let me google that for you 708609;1402245531;Littlep1;I was still at University then so i set up a University Investment fund in 2011 708610;1402245547;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: If I remember correctly bitstein does something with the Satoshi institute. 708611;1402245575;Littlep1;In 2012 we created an alternative investment fund not much and with that we focused on arb strategies with crypto currencies around 2013 708612;1402245613;Littlep1;Then i stumbled on a way to get around the counter party risk element and decided to leave my job at Lloydsbank 708613;1402245632;Littlep1;to raise the funding to operate it full time 708614;1402245688;Littlep1;im still a noob but im trying 708615;1402245747;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo o right you are 708616;1402245760;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitstein nm BingoBoingo got me 708617;1402245760;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708618;1402245795;Littlep1;what operation is gribble talking about ? 708619;1402245847;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00084957 = 7.5187 BTC [+] 708620;1402245857;BingoBoingo;Littlep1: Lodging a message to deliver later. 708621;1402245915;BingoBoingo;!up Littlep1 708622;1402245968;mircea_popescu;!up userguy243 708623;1402246001;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 can you prove your bmi connection ? 708624;1402246013;Littlep1;Do u mean BRI ? 708625;1402246021;mircea_popescu;yes 708626;1402246034;Littlep1;hmmmyou could always call them and ask :s 708627;1402246038;Littlep1;or drop them an email 708628;1402246039;mircea_popescu;aite. 708629;1402246046;Littlep1;its on my CV 708630;1402246049;Littlep1;and on Linked in 708631;1402246062;Littlep1;they were not that ig jsut about 750 mil 708632;1402246072;Littlep1;big* 708633;1402246077;Littlep1;But it was a lovely place to work 708634;1402246091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02394809 = 0.2395 BTC [+] {3} 708635;1402246106;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety hey, when you're back please call http://www.brigroup.co.uk/ ask them if a certain mr Malcolm Oluwasanmi that used to work there left you any kind of message. 708636;1402246107;assbot;BRI Wealth Management - Investment & Portfolio Management 708637;1402246107;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708638;1402246116;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 so leave moiety a message. 708639;1402246141;Littlep1;left them any kind of message? 708640;1402246152;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0747 = 0.5229 BTC [-] 708641;1402246154;mircea_popescu;well yes 708642;1402246154;Littlep1;What does that mean ? 708643;1402246161;Littlep1;I used to work there years ago 708644;1402246169;Littlep1;I didn't leave a message 708645;1402246177;mircea_popescu;right right, but looky here 708646;1402246177;Littlep1;just a few coffe stains 708647;1402246186;mircea_popescu;anyone can claim they worked in x place years ago. 708648;1402246191;mircea_popescu;we're trying to verify this 708649;1402246194;mircea_popescu;and you proposed i call them 708650;1402246211;Littlep1;meh ok go for it. 708651;1402246243;mircea_popescu;well unless you also get in touch with them it'll fail and i'll go "oh, littlep is that guy that tried to impersonate Malcolm Oluwasanmi on irc one day" 708652;1402246246;Littlep1;meh ok go for it.i have not spoken with them in a while though mention I was black that might spark their memory 708653;1402246260;Littlep1;they will be like Malcolm who >.> 708654;1402246270;mircea_popescu;gotta have a hr dept no ? 708655;1402246270;Littlep1;ahhhh the tall dark handsome one 708656;1402246291;Littlep1;it was pretty small i'm sure they will recall me many of them are on my linked in connections still 708657;1402246297;mircea_popescu;yes but step with me here : i'm not trying to verify a black guy by x name worked there at some point. 708658;1402246303;mircea_popescu;im trying to verifyYOU're that black guy. 708659;1402246326;Littlep1;I know a way you can do it do you have skype ? 708660;1402246326;mircea_popescu;so give them a call and ask em to please say hi to moiety if she calls for you. 708661;1402246344;Littlep1;moiety ? 708662;1402246347;mircea_popescu;moiety does. she's our secretary. 708663;1402246352;userguy243;thanks for the voice mircea 708664;1402246358;mircea_popescu;sure 708665;1402246375;Littlep1;Do I pronounce it Mo - etty ? 708666;1402246390;Littlep1;I will just drop them an email. It has been over 3-4 years 708667;1402246394;mircea_popescu;works 708668;1402246410;Littlep1;In fact that will work for you as well send them an email 708669;1402246435;Littlep1;ask for Paul my old boss to verify if Malcolm O ever used to work there 708670;1402246438;mircea_popescu;i dont trustemails. 708671;1402246439;Apocalyptic;you're missing the point 708672;1402246458;Littlep1;are you trying to be smart :) and promote the WOT 708673;1402246467;Littlep1;okok ill get to it 708674;1402246468;Littlep1;this week 708675;1402246481;Littlep1;il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called 708676;1402246504;Littlep1;i thought i registred this wallet with gribble 708677;1402246518;Littlep1;but the guide on bitoin assets wiki looks much better 708678;1402246543;Littlep1;but if u ever do want to prove who I am... call me on skype add Cryptovest 708679;1402246553;Littlep1;also if u ever need to hedge the BTC price 708680;1402246578;Littlep1;to make an order in the future like buy a house or a car ect 708681;1402246595;Littlep1;or hedge your mining rig hosting costs 708682;1402246624;Littlep1;i have nothing to hide 708683;1402246629;mircea_popescu;sorta like x.eur ? 708684;1402246672;*;Littlep1 stands and pretends to understand what x.eur means 708685;1402246681;mircea_popescu;!t m x.eur 708686;1402246681;assbot;[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00206766 / 0.00212705 / 0.00216962 (3761 shares, 8.00 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00248318 / 0.0031169 (11792 shares, 29.28 BTC) 708687;1402246709;mircea_popescu;you can also read the contracton mpex/discussion on trilema 708688;1402246808;Littlep1;erm i have like 4 people pming me about hedging services 708689;1402246816;Littlep1;im still new to this chat so please bear with me 708690;1402246824;fluffypony;oh Littlep1 is the one that commented on my Lilac Breasted Usagi bird video 708691;1402246830;*;fluffypony just made the connection 708692;1402246833;Littlep1;HEY FLUFFY XD 708693;1402246901;fluffypony;necro'd thread of the day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80141.0;all 708694;1402246901;assbot;Announcing GPUMoney, Monetize Your Gaming! GPUMoney.com 708695;1402247072;Littlep1;yes that was me lol 708696;1402247090;Littlep1;I couldnt stop laugthing I thought i was going to die. I fell off my chair when i realised what you had done 708697;1402247111;Littlep1;he sent me an email about the corporate failures list threatening to sue me 708698;1402247122;Apocalyptic;usagi ? 708699;1402247128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00240155 = 0.2113 BTC [-] {2} 708700;1402247129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24208859 = 2.4209 BTC [-] {3} 708701;1402247189;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085011 = 15.557 BTC [+] {2} 708702;1402247192;mircea_popescu;fucking "smart" peripherals and fuckingidiots making them 708703;1402247220;mircea_popescu;so thos monitor keeps thinking it knows better what resolution to run on than me 708704;1402247249;mircea_popescu;soon the keyboards will come with word replacementchips and im going tostart using small arms on random people. 708705;1402247267;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/21ZDZ9P.txt ) 708706;1402247267;BingoBoingo;!b 3 708707;1402247295;xmj;benkay: you around? 708708;1402247333;pankkake;didn't apple invent it already? autocorrect without asking you 708709;1402247334;mircea_popescu;Littlep1 i wouldn't worry too much, he already sold his guitar in 2013 708710;1402247345;pankkake;because they knowbetter than you 708711;1402247349;mircea_popescu;pankkake if it did i was blisfully unaware 708712;1402247433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00085042 = 4.1245 BTC [+] {3} 708713;1402247433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.242 = 1.694 BTC [-] 708714;1402247734;mircea_popescu;http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/ << not bad write-up at all 708715;1402247734;assbot;On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance 708716;1402247855;mircea_popescu;"Mom and pop get arrested for, what, receiving a note and having time or energy or impetus to check?" 708717;1402247859;mircea_popescu;missing a negative there 708718;1402247891;*;fluffypony checks 708719;1402247894;fluffypony;ah 708720;1402247896;fluffypony;fail 708721;1402247971;fluffypony;k fixed 708722;1402248009;mircea_popescu;;;dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know. 708723;1402248010;assbot;On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance 708724;1402248010;gribble;Error: "dexx7" is not a valid command. 708725;1402248015;mircea_popescu;;;later tell dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know. 708726;1402248015;assbot;On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance 708727;1402248015;gribble;The operation succeeded. 708728;1402248054;mircea_popescu;"He later backtracked over his statement later saying it was out-of-context" 708729;1402248056;mircea_popescu;gotta proof yo 708730;1402248104;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10098 @ 0.00085105 = 8.5939 BTC [+] {2} 708731;1402248158;*;fluffypony link is fucked, will fix, but it's linked straight after that statement - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4090.msg54901#msg54901 708732;1402248159;assbot;MaidSafe IPO on Mastercoin - page 11 - General Discussion - BitShares Forum 708733;1402248251;mircea_popescu;also that show more thing is annoying if you ask me 708734;1402248287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07352183 = 0.2206 BTC [-] {2} 708735;1402248291;mircea_popescu;!up realzies 708736;1402248542;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo turns out rabite decided to go derp instead. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2014#708384 708737;1402248543;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 708738;1402248604;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I saw and was saddened. 708739;1402248619;mircea_popescu;people can't think. 708740;1402248669;mircea_popescu;anyway, i won't touch it now, so i guess time for publishin' archives. 708741;1402248861;fluffypony;hmmmm - just discovered that with ssls.com (where I get all my cheap Comodo domain validation certs from) all of their domain validation certs are 2048-bit key length max 708742;1402248873;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com art of punishment 708743;1402248874;gribble;The bitchslapping of 2013… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Economic cycles finally explained pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; La Florida and other places pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 708744;1402248896;fluffypony;where can I get a domain validation cert that allows 4096-bit or 8192-bit? don't want an EV or OV cert 708745;1402249050;mircea_popescu;there's reallyno solutions ot the pki crap. 708746;1402249069;mircea_popescu;drop https, basically. 708747;1402249147;fluffypony;yeah this is ridiculous 708748;1402249147;benkay; il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called // http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130809163709/vampirediaries/images/0/02/Kool-aid-man.jpg 708749;1402249161;fluffypony;my choices are self-signed 4096-bit or EV, fuck EV 708750;1402249212;davout;fluffypony: what's wrong with EV + signed key? 708751;1402249231;davout;best of both worlds 708752;1402249237;davout;also nice blog post 708753;1402249272;fluffypony;davout: too much time required for what is supposed to be a relatively simple experiment 708754;1402249274;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/ there you go 708755;1402249276;assbot;“I saw, and was saddened.” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 708756;1402249286;mircea_popescu;and i trust you've seen your signed damages statement ? 708757;1402249301;fluffypony;I wouldn't mind the cost if they processed stuff 24 hours a day and I got a cert within minutes 708758;1402249307;fluffypony;and thanks 708759;1402249311;mircea_popescu;or ritalin with everyorder. 708760;1402249338;davout;the last ev cert i got was ridiculous 708761;1402249344;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Indeed. I'm working on a blog post atm addressing the legal situation. 708762;1402249355;davout;"we need to verify your phone number is the actual phone number for the company" 708763;1402249367;mircea_popescu;"so look it up" ? 708764;1402249386;davout;"so if you could please register your company in that online directory that doesn't check shit whatsoever, that'd be great" 708765;1402249393;mircea_popescu;!up bitcoinhtx 708766;1402249406;fluffypony;davout: "and then we'll get back to you within 3-7 working days" 708767;1402249421;mircea_popescu;why do you people even put up with this shit is beyond me 708768;1402249424;davout;"please fill a web form on some unrelated site" 708769;1402249437;mircea_popescu;just so some forum tards possessed of .1 btc don't bitch about your "very poor security" which they don't grok ? 708770;1402249443;davout;fluffypony: in this case it was relatively quick and painless 708771;1402249448;davout;but also useless 708772;1402249492;davout;on the subject of not groking security andreas derpopoulos is the fucking best 708773;1402249500;mircea_popescu;whatever you do empowers whoever you're doing it with. when you fill in some webform for the retardation, you strengthen the retardation. 708774;1402249515;mircea_popescu;"even davout uses our system" 708775;1402249517;mircea_popescu;what then ? 708776;1402249519;fluffypony;hah hah 708777;1402249529;fluffypony;"AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page 708778;1402249533;mircea_popescu;ayup 708779;1402249537;davout;bah 708780;1402249547;mircea_popescu;"davout got his start in his early days from our company" 708781;1402249560;davout;oh boy 708782;1402249568;mircea_popescu;yes well. there be consequences. 708783;1402249579;fluffypony;consequences will never be the same 708784;1402249589;davout;would you download a consequence? 708785;1402249589;fluffypony;you dun goof'd 708786;1402249631;mircea_popescu; "AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page << and you know the only reason - and i do mean the ONLY reason - this is not happening right now is because he's not big enough yet. 708787;1402249683;fluffypony;yep 708788;1402249907;mircea_popescu;"Davos: I turned down an invitation to speak at the World Economic Congress in Davos (for no honorarium) in spite of the argument for interaction with global leaders (they sent me a list of hotshots: almost no one worth having conversation with). Id rather spend time working in a caf, with real people around." 708789;1402250344;mircea_popescu;pity he doesn't have an irc chan to invite them to move over (for no honorarium) 708790;1402250420;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/ 708791;1402252252;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00085067 = 16.4179 BTC [-] {2} 708792;1402252347;benkay;morning, princessnell 708793;1402252366;princessnell;hey benkay. how's it going? 708794;1402252434;BingoBoingo;http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/ 708795;1402252435;assbot;Inconvenience | Bingo Blog 708796;1402252520;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/ 708797;1402252538;benkay;rather well, princessnell. things are cooking. yourself? 708798;1402252702;fluffypony;penguirker is getting faster 708799;1402252703;fluffypony;:-P 708800;1402252734;princessnell;good to hear. all's well with me. 708801;1402252790;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: It is taking its time doing so though 708802;1402252829;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: pankkake should rewrite it using Swift and then host it on iCloud and use push notifications from blogs 708803;1402252831;fluffypony;problem solved 708804;1402252932;pankkake;blogs.b-a polls every 7 minutes, and sends to irc immediately 708805;1402252968;pankkake;there are ping/subscribe systems, but it doesn't support it 708806;1402252990;mthreat;BingoBoingo: Just read your blog post. It's a common negotiating technique to use the "I want to do X but my superior won't let me", making you feel like you're in the same side against his superior. 708807;1402253011;mthreat;BingoBoingo: You could file a motion for speedy trial, which should force them to hold it within 90 days (in the US) 708808;1402253053;kakobrekla;lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7196350#msg7196350 708809;1402253053;assbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] 708810;1402253057;BingoBoingo;mthreat: Of course. The thing is I'm not seeking a risky trial in front of a jury full of idiots. 708811;1402253071;mthreat;BingoBoingo: and they probably know that 708812;1402253115;BingoBoingo;mthreat: The thing is I know they don't want a trial either. 708813;1402253134;mircea_popescu;resurected again ?! 708814;1402253186;mircea_popescu;lol reselling .1 btc worth of "information" 708815;1402253188;kakobrekla;resurrected in a sense they are again lookin at where the moneies gone 708816;1402253197;kakobrekla;yeah 708817;1402253204;kakobrekla;its pretty funnie 708818;1402253205;mircea_popescu;anywya, im out. laters. 708819;1402253211;kakobrekla;cya 708820;1402253451;jurov;Littlep1: http://explo.yt/post/2013/12/16/All-about-X.EUR-future-on-MPEx 708821;1402253451;assbot;All about X.EUR future on MPEx - serialized delusions 708822;1402253506;kakobrekla;he is down btw 708823;1402253856;kakobrekla;!up Swadq 708824;1402253862;kakobrekla;fuckin assbot 708825;1402253908;CheckDavid;kakobrekla: how is that fpga project going? 708826;1402253938;kakobrekla;hum? 708827;1402253955;kakobrekla;you know people have asics now 708828;1402253967;CheckDavid;I do. 708829;1402253991;CheckDavid;But I am involved with an FPGA project 708830;1402254001;CheckDavid;For mining 708831;1402254012;CheckDavid;Not much for sha2 though 708832;1402254022;CheckDavid;More like scrypt and other algos 708833;1402254051;kakobrekla;!up Swadq 708834;1402254066;kakobrekla;!up Swadq 708835;1402254075;kakobrekla;now you can talk here as well. 708836;1402254084;Swadq;Great, thank you :) 708837;1402254091;kakobrekla;CheckDavid well im not the expert on the matter. 708838;1402254145;kakobrekla;anyway this is Swadq , some new bitcoin blood, he made a tipping bot or something and thats all i know 708839;1402254174;Swadq;Hello guys :) 708840;1402254223;kakobrekla;anyway you asked what is the purpuse of this chan, nobody knows but if you are going to be in one, be in this one. 708841;1402254254;Swadq;Ha, fair enough! Thank you 708842;1402254261;Swadq;I was just reading over bitcoin-assets.com 708843;1402254274;Swadq;I’m not entirely sure what the “how to get listed” section is referring to 708844;1402254297;kakobrekla;its not for you prolly then 708845;1402254300;kakobrekla;:) 708846;1402254346;Swadq;Fair enough - is it something to do with adding a new exchange to the bot? 708847;1402254356;kakobrekla;something like that yea 708848;1402254408;Swadq;Are you the op here, then? 708849;1402254442;kakobrekla;http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ 708850;1402254443;assbot;#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 708851;1402254510;Swadq;Thank you 708852;1402255076;BingoBoingo;%ticker 708853;1402255078;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 708854;1402255080;BingoBoingo;%book 708855;1402255082;atcbot;40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142 708856;1402255101;BingoBoingo;%diff 708857;1402255103;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 130223.83 in 1902 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -81.80 708858;1402255489;CheckDavid;kakobrekla: you know what the good thing about FPGAs is? 708859;1402255498;CheckDavid;They can mine multiple algorithms 708860;1402255513;CheckDavid;And be repurposed easily for any other coin mining 708861;1402255786;fluffypony;AND they're slow and expensive 708862;1402255789;fluffypony;so win win win, really 708863;1402255796;fluffypony;(relatively slow) 708864;1402256053;benkay;!up Swadq what we need is a coin tuned for fpga and cpu architectures 708865;1402256091;chetty;http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html 708866;1402256091;assbot;Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent 708867;1402256139;jurov;lol just wanted to past it 708868;1402256193;kakobrekla;> It convinced 33 per cent of the judges that it was human, 708869;1402256195;kakobrekla;how is this a pass 708870;1402256217;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00085015 = 3.4006 BTC [-] 708871;1402256263;jurov;benkay such coin would be only feasible if it often completely and unpredictably changed its algoritm 708872;1402256430;BingoBoingo;http://www.zdnet.com/thanks-for-nothing-jerkface-7000030306/ 708873;1402256432;assbot;Thanks for nothing, jerkface | ZDNet 708874;1402256705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00084809 = 22.9408 BTC [-] {3} 708875;1402256788;jurov;;;bc,stats 708876;1402256801;gribble;Current Blocks: 304843 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1588 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 15 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 708877;1402256810;benkay;chetty: did you read the one about bots accumulating piles of followers? 708878;1402256819;benkay;(on twitter, that is) 708879;1402256867;xmj;bots following bots? 708880;1402257018;chetty;benkay, yeah, bots are better than ppls, I believe it 708881;1402257457;jurov;http://www.nature.com/news/environment-accelerate-research-on-land-creation-1.15327 huh,another leap forward? 708882;1402257457;assbot;Environment: Accelerate research on land creation : Nature News & Comment 708883;1402257465;CheckDavid;fluffypony: as far as I know they are only slow compared to asics 708884;1402257484;fluffypony;CheckDavid: depends on the algorithm 708885;1402257519;fluffypony;shit like X11 and X13 may use less power on an FPGA 708886;1402257539;CheckDavid;Yes. And how it is programmed into the board 708887;1402257565;fluffypony;but I would imagine it's a lot harder to write that than wrote it for OpenCL or CUDA 708888;1402257569;Naphex;o/ 708889;1402257656;CheckDavid;I wish I knew what that was fluffypony 708890;1402257820;benkay;tests are passing. what was i working on before the tests all went sour? 708891;1402258169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2425 = 0.485 BTC [+] {2} 708892;1402258845;fluffypony;CheckDavid: OpenCL and CUDA are for GPU processing 708893;1402258860;CheckDavid;I see. 708894;1402258893;fluffypony;and s/wrote/writing 708895;1402258901;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00084607 = 14.8485 BTC [-] {3} 708896;1402258969;kakobrekla;!up teward 708897;1402258976;*;kakobrekla triggered wot police 708898;1402259025;teward;eheh.... kakobrekla, not really, you triggered the "suspicious" flag for me, usually happens when i'm out of the loop :P 708899;1402259043;*;teward lurks 708900;1402259058;kakobrekla;no work, no sin. 708901;1402259127;teward;:P 708902;1402259586;BingoBoingo;!up lolstate 708903;1402259593;BingoBoingo;!up skinnkavaj 708904;1402259599;BingoBoingo;!up bitcoingirl 708905;1402259603;BingoBoingo;!up RainMan28 708906;1402259608;BingoBoingo;!up bitcoingirl 708907;1402259620;bitcoingirl;thanks! 708908;1402259641;bitcoingirl;+mircea_popescu you here? 708909;1402259672;BingoBoingo;I think he took off for a while. 708910;1402259730;kakobrekla;;;notes 708911;1402259731;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for aegis, agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitstein, cevidad, congrats, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, mr_burdell, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, popeofdope, and ryepdx. 708912;1402259772;kakobrekla;i thought i saw bitcoingirl inthere one of these days 708913;1402259785;bitcoingirl;I've been here before 708914;1402259791;kakobrekla;a ok 708915;1402259813;bitcoingirl;did anyone here with with mircea on the SEC Voorhees case? 708916;1402259826;kakobrekla;its in the logs 708917;1402259854;bitcoingirl;idk how to find it 708918;1402259870;bitcoingirl;it was just settled last week so i doubt there is new material 708919;1402259877;jurov;;;google bitcoingirl site:log.bitcoin-assets.com 708920;1402259878;gribble;NEXT: 21-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; home | log | bash | stats | wiki - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 05-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: 708921;1402259883;kakobrekla;its a day or two ago 708922;1402259886;kakobrekla;iirc 708923;1402259937;kakobrekla;well that, or im completely spaced out. 708924;1402259990;jurov;bitcoingirl you prolly want this: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-sec-bares-its-gums-and-settles-with-erik/ 708925;1402259990;assbot;The SEC Bares its Gums and Settles with Erik | Bingo Blog 708926;1402260009;jurov;no new info, just our general opinion 708927;1402260030;kakobrekla;yes and mind, this was posted before coindesk did it! 708928;1402260099;kakobrekla;!up RainMan28 708929;1402260173;kakobrekla;RainMan28 you need to be in l2 with assbot to up yourself 708930;1402260183;RainMan28;ah ok 708931;1402260190;RainMan28;yeah I'm far away from that 708932;1402260214;jurov;RainMan28: ratings may be cheaper than you think 708933;1402260214;kakobrekla;eh? nothing in the wot is far. 708934;1402260233;jurov;such as, do you perchance have active coinbr account? 708935;1402260248;chetty;bitcoingirl, no, he{s here. give it a few hours 708936;1402260261;RainMan28;coinbr? Nope, never heard of them jurov 708937;1402260277;kakobrekla;no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers. 708938;1402260289;bitcoingirl;what's the general consensus on MPEx becoming an SRO 708939;1402260308;kakobrekla;the TLD is pending! 708940;1402260347;benkay;bitcoingirl: MPEx is already an SRO. 708941;1402260368;benkay;#bitcoin-assets is also an SRO. 708942;1402260381;benkay;what's up in the air is USG recognizing the above facts. 708943;1402260402;bitcoingirl;has any government institution around the world delegated authority to it? 708944;1402260444;benkay;one cannot delegate authority to bitcoin entities. one can only recognize them. 708945;1402260457;benkay;nobody delegated me a cock, and yet. 708946;1402260457;BingoBoingo;bitcoingirl: There is a differance between beings, and external recognition of being 708947;1402260465;benkay;it gets sucked. 708948;1402260483;bitcoingirl;haha can i quote you on that? 708949;1402260497;benkay;it's in the public record... 708950;1402260502;bitcoingirl;what are your thoughts on DATA then? 708951;1402260505;jurov;also, slovak national bank did it by declaring all virtual currency transactions to be exclusive domain of transacting parties. 708952;1402260521;benkay;bitcoingirl: DATA? 708953;1402260526;jurov;ECB did something ike that, too 708954;1402260531;bitcoingirl;Digital Asset Transfer Authority? 708955;1402260586;benkay;re DATA: "Patrick Murck, Bitcoin Foundation 708956;1402260588;benkay;" 708957;1402260591;benkay;criminals, i guess. 708958;1402260598;benkay;http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/blog/2014/03/25/meet-the-data-annual-meeting-speakers/ 708959;1402260599;assbot;Meet the DATA Annual Meeting Speakers | DATA 708960;1402260638;benkay;voting members: ... "brock pierce" and pedobears. 708961;1402260647;jurov;evoor and wences are there 708962;1402260681;benkay;and what authority is this? some self-styled best and first most authoritative source for the terminally blind? 708963;1402260729;benkay;bitcoingirl: d'you get the drift? 708964;1402260744;bitcoingirl;ok just asking 708965;1402260789;benkay;not trying to bite or anything, i'm just asking if you get the picture. 708966;1402260790;jurov;The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion 708967;1402260802;benkay;is tradehill even a thing anymore? 708968;1402260803;bitcoingirl;+benkay - so how was the SEC able to bring charges against voorhees since Mpex is overseas? 708969;1402260818;benkay;you'll note he was prosecuted for the scam he IPO'd himself, not S.DICE> 708970;1402260824;benkay;or...should have noted. 708971;1402260825;bitcoingirl;tradehill is not anything anymore 708972;1402260873;benkay;so we begin to draw a picture of this DATA thing - they flaunt dead operations as proof of their relevance. 708973;1402260905;bitcoingirl;i think Kracken and circle are the drivers of the operation 708974;1402260930;bitcoingirl;patrick just sits on the board as an 'advisor' 708975;1402260936;benkay;and if i recall correctly, US-ians aren't even allowed to trade on Kraken. 708976;1402260936;bitcoingirl;but isn't that involved 708977;1402260967;benkay;it's one of those 'company you keep' things. 708978;1402261010;benkay;hang out with the scum, get tarred with the brush of scum. 708979;1402261036;kakobrekla; The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion < what the fuck is this shit 708980;1402261040;kakobrekla;these guys cant even math 708981;1402261044;kakobrekla;fucking what. 708982;1402261059;bitcoingirl;do you think the foundation played a part in mt gox? 708983;1402261075;jurov;kakobrekla: click on "The Announcement" 708984;1402261076;benkay;DATA and their ilk are the equivalent of soviet or third reich fascist informers. 708985;1402261102;benkay;glorious heroes in the moment 708986;1402261113;benkay;reviled traitors for all eternity 708987;1402261123;jurov;bitcoingirl obviously karpeles was on the board 708988;1402261143;jurov;and shrem shilled till the last moment 708989;1402261144;benkay;a better question maybe: what role did the foundation play in supporting the BFL scam? 708990;1402261168;benkay;and the best question yet: why are any of these fuckers still making noise? 708991;1402261193;BingoBoingo;benkay: Squandered their Bitcoin for dollars, but still need moar dollars. 708992;1402261211;benkay;bitcoingirl: do you have enough yet to castrate this whole charade in the mainstream press? 708993;1402261325;benkay;and i guess more importantly: do you have the reproductive organs to mount the charge? 708994;1402261328;bitcoingirl;it's certainly frustrating, but I'm focusing on more important matters moving forward 708995;1402261344;benkay;lol i ain't frustrated, they don't affect me. 708996;1402261347;bitcoingirl;mount the charge? 708997;1402261365;benkay;for truth and justice etc 708998;1402261405;jurov;such as, kenna being serial scammer? 708999;1402261428;jurov;just to name one of them 709000;1402261442;benkay;such as foundation soliciting deposits and burning them on trabamborghinis? 709001;1402261469;benkay;!up bitcoingirl 709002;1402261476;bitcoingirl;how is keen is serial scammer - i haven't heard this 709003;1402261486;bitcoingirl;Thanks +benkay 709004;1402261498;bitcoingirl;kenna* 709005;1402261546;benkay;(feel free to omit the +, bitcoingirl, it just indicates that this handle has voice) 709006;1402261577;jurov;after the first incarnation of tradehill closed, deposited bitcoins were never seen again 709007;1402261594;bitcoingirl;ive spoken with people that got their bitcoins back 709008;1402261610;benkay;you've taken a sample. 709009;1402261619;bitcoingirl;he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control 709010;1402261635;bitcoingirl;i did not do a proper statistical analysis 709011;1402261683;benkay;and i've talked to people who got their money out of BCS&T - what of it? 709012;1402261717;benkay;i've even talked to people who made money on cryptostocks, GLBSE, bitcoinbourse (okay maybe not bourse), but you get the point. 709013;1402261747;benkay;and coinbase will even refund your "get fucked" trades if you complain loudly enough on reddit/twitter/bitcointalk 709014;1402261751;bitcoingirl;i do - but he is saying that it wasn't his fault tradehill went under bc he couldn't get a bank account 709015;1402261772;bitcoingirl;+benkay, what country are you primarily located in? 709016;1402261797;benkay;i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us. 709017;1402261807;benkay;los estados unidos, por ahora. 709018;1402261822;benkay;despues, quien sabes. 709019;1402261842;davout;"he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control" <<< actually, it wouldn't really surprise me if this was true 709020;1402261883;benkay;nobody's tried the Paymium approach in the states, afaik. 709021;1402261890;davout;"i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us." <<< is there any entity who actually tried to get the license in all states ? 709022;1402261900;benkay;Kraken. 709023;1402261911;benkay;they also performed a hasty retrograde maneuver iirc. 709024;1402261927;benkay;aka Payward. 709025;1402261946;davout;payward tried to get msb licensed in lots of states? 709026;1402262004;benkay;when i spoke to ms. choi last she indicated that was the plan. granted, that was forever ago and we've not kept up. 709027;1402262012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07462951 = 0.7463 BTC [+] {4} 709028;1402262036;benkay;the best part about kraken is the header on their header 709029;1402262046;benkay;"yo dawg we herd u like web 3.14 so we put some css on your css" 709030;1402262062;kakobrekla;davout iirc they started as US only 709031;1402262073;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00085015 = 11.222 BTC [+] 709032;1402262077;kakobrekla;cause i remember laughing about it. 709033;1402262084;davout;yea, they're lucky fidor took them :-) 709034;1402262110;kakobrekla;mhm 709035;1402262124;benkay;;;ticker --market kraken 709036;1402262125;gribble;Kraken BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 646.45777, Best ask: 656.43773, Bid-ask spread: 9.97996, Last trade: 646.54153, 24 hour volume: 0.98730776, 24 hour low: 646.001, 24 hour high: 659.8, 24 hour vwap: 655.83189 709037;1402262130;benkay;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral 709038;1402262131;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.54615, Best ask: 667.14256357, Bid-ask spread: 11.59641, Last trade: 667.14256357, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 654.864, 24 hour high: 670.55345, 24 hour vwap: 661.679544831 709039;1402262143;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur 709040;1402262144;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635 709041;1402262163;davout;"24 hour volume: 0.98730776" <<< that can't be kraken's eur volume 709042;1402262168;benkay;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur 709043;1402262169;gribble;Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635 709044;1402262172;benkay;;;ticker --market kraken --currency eur 709045;1402262172;gribble;Kraken BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 479.65001, Best ask: 480.22868, Bid-ask spread: 0.57867, Last trade: 480.36999, 24 hour volume: 190.24285332, 24 hour low: 478.05478, 24 hour high: 482.5, 24 hour vwap: 480.49926 709046;1402262190;benkay;davout: ^^ 709047;1402262191;davout;ah, the usd one i guess :) 709048;1402262205;pankkake;there is to btcusd for bitcoincentral, so gribble invents it. however, there is for kraken, which doesn't see much action 709049;1402262212;pankkake;s/to/no/ 709050;1402262237;benkay;but, pankkake, they do seem to have some volume on the eur side 709051;1402262259;pankkake;yes, the have more than bitcoin-central usually 709052;1402262271;pankkake;I've made a bitbet of kraken vs bc volume but it was refused :( 709053;1402262279;benkay;what why? 709054;1402262285;davout;yup, they're blessed with this situation where they have a financial entity backing them, but lets them do the kyc diligences themselves 709055;1402262300;davout;s/but/which/ 709056;1402262315;benkay;davout: implying they're skimping? 709057;1402262345;pankkake;they're verification was a joke last time I tried. didn't even have to upload documents for first levels 709058;1402262357;davout;that's the way i see it, look at their verification tiers, there's no such thing in europe where you can start moving funds without being identified 709059;1402262371;pankkake;but you give them your name!! it must be true :) 709060;1402262375;benkay;amazing company. 709061;1402262375;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 709062;1402262428;benkay;pankkake: what was the rejection rationale? 709063;1402262449;davout;the next step being, "oh wait, now you have money with us, let's start asking questions to let you move it out" 709064;1402262460;davout;bitstamp-style 709065;1402262492;benkay;p. typical. is this true of btc accounts as well? 709066;1402262538;davout;what do you mean ? 709067;1402262577;benkay;i suppose it would have to be, to work with the paymium model. 709068;1402262606;benkay;naively, "why do i have to show docs if i'm just showing up with btc and leaving with btc", but i get it. 709069;1402262613;davout;ah i see 709070;1402262622;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10413 @ 0.00085073 = 8.8587 BTC [+] {3} 709071;1402262686;davout;i don't know about kraken, but the paymium approach is that we skip the issue entirely, we verify everyone, if people were only depositing and withdrawing btc they could do it anonymously, but we don't really want that kind of users since we make no money being a wallet 709072;1402262750;pankkake;benkay: I don't remember, either no paid wager or bad source (bitcoincharts) 709073;1402262752;benkay;learned your lesson on that one? ;) 709074;1402262813;benkay;also (and correct me if i'm wrong davout) but if a user ever wants to sell btc via paymium, even if not withdrawing cash, they have to have a french bank account. 709075;1402262825;davout;there might business models for wallets, but trying to do everything is not the smartest way 709076;1402262838;davout;a EU bank account 709077;1402262840;jurov;benkay nope, i'm using slovak acct 709078;1402262863;benkay;ah, any eurozone account? i don't know much about your banking situations. 709079;1402262901;davout;yeah 709080;1402262908;davout;such hail in paris 709081;1402262959;davout;bwhahaha https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10351172_847904695230543_425532834360726811_n.png 709082;1402263151;pankkake;https://anxbtc.com/ wait, what is this? 709083;1402263153;assbot;ANXBTC Bitcoin Exchange 709084;1402263221;benkay;volume: 535 B 709085;1402263224;benkay;riiiiight. 709086;1402263228;pankkake;neither bc or kraken publish monthly volume themselves :/ 709087;1402263245;pankkake;https://hitbtc.com/ that one too, no idea it even existed 709088;1402263246;assbot;The most advanced exchange / hitbtc 709089;1402263301;davout;pankkake: i'm told sometimes the hitbtc orderbook empties all of a sudden, the mm who whas telling me that assumes it's their own bot that sometimes goes offline 709090;1402263334;pankkake;http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ full of lulz 709091;1402263336;assbot;Bitcoin Charts / Markets 709092;1402263340;Apocalyptic;pankkake, I think I saw Enky point out that hitbtc is faking volume 709093;1402263354;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00239616 = 0.1246 BTC [-] {5} 709094;1402263371;davout;!up bitcoingirl 709095;1402263384;BingoBoingo;%ticker 709096;1402263385;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 709097;1402263396;BingoBoingo;%book 709098;1402263398;atcbot;40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142 709099;1402263415;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.00235001 = 0.4559 BTC [-] 709100;1402263842;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13928 @ 0.00085109 = 11.854 BTC [+] 709101;1402264374;jurov;1up bitcoinhtx 709102;1402264377;jurov;!up bitcoinhtx 709103;1402264393;jurov;!up bitcoinhtx 709104;1402264404;jurov;!up frankenmint 709105;1402264414;jurov;!up CoalPowerGorilla 709106;1402264447;frankenmint;thanks 709107;1402264456;frankenmint;how do I decrypt the challenge question in dos? 709108;1402264470;CoalPowerGorilla;ty 709109;1402264483;frankenmint;i have gpg and i could register but I can't figure out the proper usage with the challenge link 709110;1402264530;jurov;frankenmint: dos? 709111;1402264540;frankenmint;yes 709112;1402264563;jurov;download the challenge link into a file 709113;1402264570;jurov;decrypt that file with gpg 709114;1402264576;frankenmint;okay decrypt got it 709115;1402264584;jurov;what step makes a problem? 709116;1402264601;frankenmint;not knowing that I need to save the link into a file 709117;1402264632;frankenmint;why couldnt i simply pass on the link directly to the cli 709118;1402264647;dignork;frankenmint: you don't have to, on unix you can run "gpg -d", and paste the message into stdin 709119;1402264650;jurov;because gpg does not know how to fetch http links? 709120;1402264671;jurov;if there is curl for dos, just do 709121;1402264685;jurov;curl | gpg --decrypt 709122;1402264689;benkay;#bitcoin-assets, supporting dos since 2014 709123;1402264750;jurov;;;gettrust assbot frankenmint 709124;1402264750;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014 709125;1402264793;fluffypony;;;rated frankenmint 709126;1402264794;gribble;You rated user frankenmint on Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod. 709127;1402264810;frankenmint;nice 709128;1402264811;jurov;;;rate frankenmint 1 on fluffy's recommendation 709129;1402264813;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded. 709130;1402264818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+] 709131;1402264832;jurov;now you can !up with assbot yourself 709132;1402264852;frankenmint;thanks coolness 709133;1402264967;benkay;!up bitcoinhtx 709134;1402264972;benkay;bitcoin heat exchanger? 709135;1402265008;fluffypony;lol 709136;1402265029;fluffypony;so a Bitcoin HVAC technician really 709137;1402265055;jurov;where is HVAC used in btc? 709138;1402265136;jurov;boiler rooms, got it 709139;1402265148;fluffypony;hah hah 709140;1402265199;peterl;you could use a btc miner to heat your house? 709141;1402265199;thestringpuller;fluffypony: 709142;1402265254;fluffypony;thestringpuller: 709143;1402265283;jurov;peterl: yes 709144;1402265292;jurov;!up bitcoingirl 709145;1402265320;bitcoingirl;thanks. i think I'm finished here for now. 709146;1402265343;benkay;sweet dreams. give 'em hell. 709147;1402265362;jurov;bitcoingirl, mind sharing the conclusion? 709148;1402265365;jurov;if any? 709149;1402265371;bitcoingirl;conclusion of what? 709150;1402265373;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.msg7201619#msg7201619 709151;1402265373;assbot;Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) 709152;1402265379;fluffypony;"Whats Dannys real name? is it really Daniel Brewster or what? I hv investors who want to buy the business how do i get hold of him?" 709153;1402265390;jurov;bitcoingirl whatever you're finished 709154;1402265429;benkay;i'm sure we'll see it in the next 'this week in bitcoin' from what is it - Forbes, bitcoingirl? 709155;1402265429;bitcoingirl;i was just trying to get some information on the voorhees case. very interesting subject. 709156;1402265442;bitcoingirl;tomorrow morning it'll be up 709157;1402265443;benkay;bitcoingirl: have you read the indictments too? 709158;1402265450;benkay;or, whatever legal docs the SEC pooped out 709159;1402265461;bitcoingirl;parts of them. 709160;1402265495;bitcoingirl;this is my conclusion: "In order for the SEC to consider raising bitcoin a securities offering, they would have to consider bitcoin as ‘money,' which they haven't" 709161;1402265516;benkay;kinda goes cross-grain to the Shavers case. 709162;1402265569;benkay;Trendon Shavers/Pirateat40/Bitcoin Savings and Trust ring a bell, bitcoingirl ? 709163;1402265583;bitcoingirl;exactly 709164;1402265610;benkay;wait hang on i thought the Shavers case established that they don't care if it's money or not raising funds is raising funds 709165;1402265628;bitcoingirl;its just not fair for the sec to charge voorhees with offering securities before offering any guidance 709166;1402265642;benkay;"SEC" "fair" << hue 709167;1402265662;bitcoingirl;but that's for the courts to decide 709168;1402265687;bitcoingirl;the shavers case hasn't gone to trial yet 709169;1402265693;jurov;also, there's that interesting difference between GLBSE and MPEx 709170;1402265709;jurov;treatment 709171;1402265800;thestringpuller;and that jurov is the best broker ever 709172;1402265806;thestringpuller;;;gettrust jurov 709173;1402265806;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user jurov: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 13 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012 709174;1402265824;jurov;lol, so you got new password finally? 709175;1402265833;jurov;what is it? 709176;1402265838;thestringpuller;yup. painless, gangsta. 709177;1402265846;thestringpuller;it is !(#&!JSKCNWR*@(#&fhjf3hu(*Fhj3of or something 709178;1402265857;Apocalyptic;seems legit 709179;1402265915;benkay;looks good to me 709180;1402266192;frankenmint;anyone here run bots? 709181;1402266197;jurov;!up Swadq 709182;1402266206;Swadq;Thanks jurov 709183;1402266215;jurov;frankenmint: yes, mircea_popescu runs hanbot 709184;1402266224;Swadq;I do frankenmint, what's up? 709185;1402266241;jurov;!up frankenmint 709186;1402266247;Swadq;Thanks again 709187;1402266274;frankenmint;thanks 709188;1402266289;fluffypony;jurov: lol! 709189;1402266290;frankenmint;uh okay i was looking at thishttps://github.com/maxme/bitcoin-arbitrage 709190;1402266333;frankenmint;and I was going to change out gox for something like coinmkt or cryptsy 709191;1402266334;Swadq;What about it? 709192;1402266338;Swadq;Right 709193;1402266355;frankenmint;is there a recognized rule of thumb for switching a strategy 709194;1402266380;frankenmint;like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades 709195;1402266445;frankenmint;because this looks like its one bot that works across several markets I was going to spend time to build my own bot from scratch that only uses cryptsy 709196;1402266453;Swadq;I'm afraid I don't know, that's not the sort of bot I run :p I hope someone else can help you 709197;1402266455;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/hillydilly/milky-chance-flashed-junk-mind 709198;1402266455;assbot;Milky Chance - Flashed Junk Mind by hillydilly.com on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 709199;1402266458;frankenmint;im just not entirely sure which makes better sense of mytime 709200;1402266709;jurov;1up akstunt600 709201;1402266714;jurov;!up akstunt600 709202;1402266718;jurov;7up 709203;1402266794;thestringpuller;;;gettrust bitcoingirl 709204;1402266794;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=bitcoingirl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoingirl | Rated since: never 709205;1402266964;benkay;Mats_cd03: can you find something > 20 minutes? 709206;1402267075;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-] 709207;1402267076;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00085442 = 6.6406 BTC [+] 709208;1402267095;kakobrekla; like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades < yes make it so if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades 709209;1402267136;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128 @ 0.00085201 = 0.1091 BTC [-] 709210;1402267140;benkay;Mats_cd03: good track 709211;1402267209;kakobrekla;frankenmint the answer to your next question is exactly 709212;1402267221;kakobrekla;Swadq|Away dont do the away thingy, ktnx 709213;1402267253;Swadq|Away;kakobrekla what's preferable? Just being idle for 8 hours? 709214;1402267263;kakobrekla;sure 709215;1402267269;jurov;or /away 709216;1402267285;kakobrekla;just imagine 200 derps on the chan going |away |sleeping |eating |fucking |cowmilking 709217;1402267293;Swadq;Fair enough 709218;1402267308;Swadq;At least we'd be a me to keep tabs 709219;1402267315;Swadq;Able* 709220;1402267342;kakobrekla;anyway nothing wrong with being idle 709221;1402267372;Swadq;Fair enough 709222;1402267374;Swadq;Goodnight 709223;1402267379;kakobrekla;cya 709224;1402267497;Mats_cd03;benkay: http://hypem.com/gap_govball 709225;1402267499;assbot;Governors Ball Playable Schedule by Gap 709226;1402267530;davout;pankkake: massive hail too? 709227;1402267544;benkay;Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icqddnGuijs 709228;1402267544;assbot;Insomnium - Shadows Of The Dying Sun 2014 (FulL Album) - YouTube 709229;1402267563;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12272 @ 0.00085201 = 10.4559 BTC [-] 709230;1402267612;pankkake;? 709231;1402267696;davout;just getting lots of hail here 709232;1402267754;pankkake;(had to look up the word). nothing and it's very hot 709233;1402267917;pankkake;thunderstorm en route 709234;1402267967;pankkake;I guess I'll tone down my Parisan pride tomorrow and pack an umbrella 709235;1402268112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-] 709236;1402268173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.07377776 = 2.4347 BTC [-] 709237;1402268376;Mats_cd03;benkay: i like it 709238;1402268813;pankkake;hail is here 709239;1402268966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0200335 = 0.1202 BTC [-] 709240;1402269027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+] 709241;1402269568;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 709242;1402269570;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.95, Best ask: 658.91, Bid-ask spread: 2.96000, Last trade: 658.62, 24 hour volume: 2687.21042317, 24 hour low: 651.7, 24 hour high: 661.11, 24 hour vwap: 0 709243;1402269743;mircea_popescu;FabianB what email would you like mpexbot code ? 709244;1402269786;mircea_popescu;"A person essentially help to make seriously articles Id state. This is the first time I frequented your website page and thus far? I amazed with the analysis you made to make this actual publish amazing. Magnificent activity" 709245;1402269786;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 709246;1402269791;davout;pankkake: "hail is here" <<< as predicted on -assets 709247;1402269803;pankkake;:D 709248;1402270125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [-] 709249;1402270186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07372916 = 0.5898 BTC [+] {2} 709250;1402270222;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: how is this a pass << you ever dated ? 709251;1402270333;kakobrekla;apparently a weird sample 709252;1402270369;dub;Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration.that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's davout with the weather 709253;1402270407;davout;dub: the guy has a point 709254;1402270411;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3RQWP37.txt ) 709255;1402270411;mircea_popescu;!b 2 709256;1402270435;mircea_popescu;dub is like vexual on naxolone 709257;1402270521;dub;thats bill hicks, suggest to familiarize 709258;1402270552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0728 = 0.1456 BTC [-] 709259;1402270575;dub;one of 'muricas only useful products 709260;1402270613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07270061 = 0.1454 BTC [-] 709261;1402270617;cazalla;isn't alex jones bill hicks? 709262;1402270670;mircea_popescu;wait is alex jones a chick ? 709263;1402270674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0234572 = 0.2346 BTC [-] {3} 709264;1402270692;decimation;http://fish2.com/ipmi/river.pdf << problem: c-machines are buggy and crash all the time ... solution: glue another c-machine on top of the c-machine ... problem: hardware vendors have crap security on new c-machine ... and you can't examine the firmware 709265;1402270718;mircea_popescu;http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/2011/images/dancers/alex_jones624x351.jpg 709266;1402270736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00084877 = 11.034 BTC [-] 709267;1402270739;BingoBoingo;http://oglaf.com/trump/ 709268;1402270739;assbot;trump 709269;1402270773;mircea_popescu;pankkake can penguirker also paste new oglafs ? 709270;1402270857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 76 @ 0.02322812 = 1.7653 BTC [-] {4} 709271;1402270919;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00085069 = 11.8671 BTC [+] {2} 709272;1402270947;pankkake;pretty much any irc bot with rss feed support could, but I planned to write something like that. anyway, for now: no 709273;1402270973;mircea_popescu;i guess BingoBoingo is stuck doing it by hand 709274;1402270987;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Of course I am. 709275;1402271004;mircea_popescu;ehehe 709276;1402271007;decimation;I have a suggestion for content aggregation - use NNTP (usenet) 709277;1402271011;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoingirl yes. 709278;1402271011;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709279;1402271014;BingoBoingo;Also Coindesk has reached new levels of Herpidity http://www.coindesk.com/digital-currencies-popular-technology-companies/ 709280;1402271015;assbot;If Digital Currencies Were Popular Technology Companies... 709281;1402271086;mircea_popescu;bitcoingirl:idk how to find it << kakobrekla how hard it'd be to add full log search ? google is a bitchy little piece of shit that's not indexing half the days. 709282;1402271103;mircea_popescu;maybe limit to 12 searches/ip/day or something ? 709283;1402271119;cazalla;clearly i've been looking at the wrong alex jones 709284;1402271147;kakobrekla;it depends how well its made 709285;1402271160;kakobrekla;look at google and they still dont have shit together 709286;1402271169;mircea_popescu;yeah 709287;1402271185;mircea_popescu;but i mean, just run grep and report the results on a page 709288;1402271194;mircea_popescu;or wait, is it php ? does php even have bindings to run bash ? 709289;1402271214;thestringpuller;yes 709290;1402271214;davout;"does php even have bindings to run bash ?" <<< wut 709291;1402271221;kakobrekla;you could but you dont want to do that 709292;1402271225;mircea_popescu;a ok 709293;1402271227;thestringpuller;you can run shell from php but you don't want to do that 709294;1402271242;mircea_popescu;actually i imagine the logs'd be in a db anyway rather than in files 709295;1402271244;kakobrekla;its not text files anyway 709296;1402271248;mircea_popescu;right. 709297;1402271248;decimation;the problem with everything is idiots and spammers 709298;1402271249;kakobrekla;... 709299;1402271254;decimation;limit searching to those in the wot 709300;1402271258;decimation;everything becomes simple 709301;1402271275;mircea_popescu;;;search "derpy herp", assbot checks if guy is in l2 and pastes output ? 709302;1402271276;gribble;(search ) -- Searches for in the current configuration variables. 709303;1402271307;kakobrekla;i can see ascii breaking it. 709304;1402271315;mircea_popescu;if he does we negrate him 709305;1402271325;mircea_popescu;or make him pay moar beer fund. 709306;1402271338;davout;kakobrekla: the log already chokes on nicks containing caps 709307;1402271338;mthreat;mircea_popescu: I've been thinking about making a log search. A handy search-as-a-service might come in handy there. 709308;1402271344;mircea_popescu;but anyway, this will become a serious problem, already i spend too much time searching the logs 709309;1402271351;kakobrekla;davout ? 709310;1402271356;mircea_popescu;o right, this happens to be what mthreat does for a living iirc 709311;1402271369;davout;backslashes 709312;1402271389;decimation;So I'm on vacation in Maui, and I find the local "Hawai'i" culture amusing. Mostly it's white people and the descendents of Korean slaves pretending to have something in common with war-like primative tribes who used to live here. 709313;1402271391;mircea_popescu;davout this because caps are evil in the ass of the lord. 709314;1402271391;thestringpuller;http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9447/thinking-transactions/ << not too bad 709315;1402271391;assbot;Thinking in Transactions Bitcoin Magazine 709316;1402271391;kakobrekla;wasnt that fixed 709317;1402271416;mircea_popescu;decimation sounds like someone on their way to cultural sensitivity boot camp 709318;1402271439;\\ohai;test 709319;1402271450;kakobrekla;yeah. fuick you. 709320;1402271462;mircea_popescu;fail. 709321;1402271467;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07270061 = 0.3635 BTC [-] 709322;1402271470;davout;kakobrekla: five mazeltovs to you 709323;1402271475;kakobrekla;:) 709324;1402271483;punkman;I was working on a log search thingy but then I forgot about it, ask me again in a few days 709325;1402271497;decimation;hehe well the amusing thing about it is that loads of "spiritual" new-age white people (eat pray love) come here to find themselves a culture, because they aren't allowed to have one back in the mainland 709326;1402271500;mircea_popescu;i was going to ask you in a few days but then i ated it. 709327;1402271504;kakobrekla;you need to index all the shit then 709328;1402271507;mthreat;mircea_popescu: is there an API to get the logs? not hard to write a crawler for it, but an API would be nice 709329;1402271509;kakobrekla;ill add something to assbot 709330;1402271526;mircea_popescu;mthreat not afaik 709331;1402271540;mircea_popescu;cause we all have flatfile logs and well... lazy i guess 709332;1402271566;mthreat;I was going to use something like log(poster's WoT score) as the "pageRank" equivalent for ranking the results 709333;1402271581;mircea_popescu;wot score is not intended to be used as a scalar. 709334;1402271588;mircea_popescu;;;google what the wot is how to use it 709335;1402271589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0255004 = 0.2805 BTC [-] {2} 709336;1402271590;gribble;Ammo - World Of Tanks: ; The Definitive Idiot's Guide To High Explosive Ammunition - Game ...: ; World of Tanks: High Explosive Ammo Guide (HE) - Glenn0010 ...: 709337;1402271595;mircea_popescu;dude srsly. 709338;1402271598;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema what the wot is how to use it 709339;1402271599;gribble;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un ...: ; Advanced WoT course : how the WoT is attacked, and how ... - Trilema: ; On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also ... - (1 more message) 709340;1402271602;thestringpuller;lolol 709341;1402271608;mircea_popescu;there mthreat, first link/ 709342;1402271608;mthreat;ok i'll look at it. it's easy to change the ranking function 709343;1402271635;davout;mthreat: the search should be as dumb as possible imo 709344;1402271685;davout;ideally a bit smarter than a grep, but i'd beware of fancyness 709345;1402271685;mthreat;davout: ok. I'll make it open so folks can submit pull requests or whatever. 709346;1402271711;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0008487 = 14.8523 BTC [-] {2} 709347;1402271715;mircea_popescu;there is nothing smarter than grep gtfo 709348;1402271741;thestringpuller;perl -p -i -e 709349;1402271745;thestringpuller;;;perl 709350;1402271745;gribble;Error: "perl" is not a valid command. 709351;1402271749;thestringpuller;;;ls 709352;1402271749;gribble;What do you think I am, a shell? 709353;1402271752;mircea_popescu;lol 709354;1402271754;mircea_popescu;;;ll 709355;1402271755;gribble;Error: "ll" is not a valid command. 709356;1402271758;mircea_popescu;ORLY 709357;1402271760;mthreat;davout: and if assbot can do a REST request and interpret a JSON result, that part should be straightforward too 709358;1402271771;decimation;I would do exactly what a monk in 1300 would do - make a concordance of each day's logs and then make an index of the concordance 709359;1402271773;davout;mircea_popescu: i guess i you regexp you're good 709360;1402271791;mircea_popescu;davout because srsly, regexp is turing complete! 709361;1402271811;BingoBoingo;;;rm 709362;1402271811;gribble;Error: "rm" is not a valid command. 709363;1402271813;davout;mthreat: not to nitpick, but there's no such thing as a rest request 709364;1402271817;davout;:D 709365;1402271825;BingoBoingo;;;ed logs 709366;1402271826;gribble;Google found nothing. 709367;1402271835;mthreat;ok, as long as you know what I meant ;) 709368;1402271840;davout;k i'm off, night all 709369;1402271840;mircea_popescu;im starting to suspect davout has been sleepingon the couch for like a week 709370;1402271847;davout;lol 709371;1402271850;mircea_popescu;he's got nitpicks with everyone 709372;1402271854;mircea_popescu;slash slash /// 709373;1402271878;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 709374;1402271894;mircea_popescu;the tarzan kid or w/e his name is has started a trend nao 709375;1402271942;bitcoinpete;;;later tell davout lol well played 709376;1402271942;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709377;1402271948;bitcoinpete;howdy 709378;1402271952;mircea_popescu;hey. 709379;1402271964;mircea_popescu;bitcoin girl was looking for you earlier. 709380;1402271971;bitcoinpete;orly? 709381;1402271984;bitcoinpete;didn't see my name pop up in the logs... 709382;1402271990;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers. << you mean resort yea ? 709383;1402272007;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete im just being an asshole. 709384;1402272008;kakobrekla;yeah. 709385;1402272014;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/susie_c/status/475100972004679681 709386;1402272016;assbot;New inbox filter for emails containing "New York," "coming to the Bay Area," "writing an article," "pick your brain" ---> auto-reply "NOPE." 709387;1402272023;benkay;no no, coinbr resolves to hookers 709388;1402272042;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i've been had! 709389;1402272087;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/475753463188430848 709390;1402272088;assbot;The dream of having computers behave like humans is coming true, with the transformation, in a single generation, of humans into computers. 709391;1402272099;BingoBoingo;^ If only 709392;1402272103;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo the bestpart being that the susie chick is practically nobody anyway. 709393;1402272108;bitcoinpete;;;later tell benkay shibboleeeet http://xkcd.com/806/ 709394;1402272108;assbot;xkcd: Tech Support 709395;1402272108;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709396;1402272151;mircea_popescu;bitcoingirl: i think Kraken and circle are the drivers of the operation << SV "Bitcoin" VCs are quickly becoming this place elephants go to die. 709397;1402272161;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The best part from he being a practical nobody is that there is a still lesser class such that even nobodies need autoresponders to dismiss them. 709398;1402272732;mircea_popescu;i had no idea they did that, moreover, pretty sure they didn't USE to do it. 709399;1402272733;thestringpuller;AMAZING 709400;1402272740;thestringpuller;amazing 709401;1402272740;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 709402;1402272753;mthreat;^ that's what I was trying to do 709403;1402272756;mircea_popescu;anyway, this unearthed a bug in the credits script so you get double credit mthreat 709404;1402272761;mthreat;sweet 709405;1402272774;thestringpuller;hooray hooray! 709406;1402272778;thestringpuller;educate yo'selfs 709407;1402272816;mthreat;mircea_popescu: success 709408;1402272826;mircea_popescu;cool. 709409;1402273001;mircea_popescu;benkay: and the best question yet: why are any of these fuckers still making noise? << apparently, lack of any sort of conservation instinct. 709410;1402273033;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Maybe the problem is the uranium mines have been unveiled yet? 709411;1402273070;mircea_popescu;i guess. 709412;1402273079;kakobrekla;FabianB 709413;1402273084;kakobrekla;!mp book 709414;1402273085;assbot;http://dpaste.com/1F4E7FY.txt 709415;1402273090;kakobrekla;!mp ticker 709416;1402273091;assbot;http://dpaste.com/1GR13WW.txt 709417;1402273106;mircea_popescu;pretty cute. 709418;1402273149;BingoBoingo;I mean they've been hinted at, but some people probably won't believe until they are wearing an breathing aparatus and hoping it holds so the Radon doesn't asphyxiate them. 709419;1402273204;mircea_popescu;davout: yup, they're blessed with this situation where they have a financial entity backing them, but lets them do the kyc diligences themselves << dubious blessing. 709420;1402273242;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo so far, it'd seem the playbook of the vc twerp is, "1. eat as much conference rubber duck as possible ; 2. show trial ; 3. become usg informant" 709421;1402273294;mircea_popescu;in a few years it'll be practically speaking la serenissima vs a horde of mindless zombies controlled by the secretary of crypto, labour, housing, healthcare and other human services 709422;1402273301;mircea_popescu;it'll have a special crest with an eagle holding cocks. 709423;1402273326;BingoBoingo;Wasn't that the first draft of the S.NSA logo? 709424;1402273355;mircea_popescu;yeah. which explains it. 709425;1402273449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00085415 = 15.5028 BTC [+] {3} 709426;1402273531;BingoBoingo;I'm guessing the first Secretary of crypto is probably going to be Jay-Z or Ashton Kutcher, because VC celibrities in the flea circus like to imagine celberities in the Hollywood circus care for them. 709427;1402273535;benkay;hey who wants to sell me a data center 709428;1402273537;mircea_popescu;pankkake: but you give them your name!! it must be true :) << actually this is how england worked, back when it was still a respectable country, up until the socialist revolution of the 80s. 709429;1402273547;mircea_popescu;if you gave your name, the policeman was not at liberty to doubt your word. 709430;1402273561;benkay;bitcoinpete: leet leet leet 709431;1402273563;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo nah, it'll be yet another famished dc lawyer. 709432;1402273579;bitcoinpete;benkay: :D 709433;1402273605;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Also a possibility. 709434;1402273638;mircea_popescu;by the way, whilke going through bsas' jewish quarter today it occured to me : what if the yamaka exists solelyto hide baldness ? 709435;1402273651;mircea_popescu;imagine, a whole people of men who don't have to worry about their thin spot anymore. 709436;1402273683;benkay;lol what did they start caring about their guts? 709437;1402273711;mircea_popescu;but there's a shawl too. 709438;1402273745;benkay;that's to display wealth with fabric, thread and dye, not to conceal the rotundity of being well-fed. 709439;1402273776;mircea_popescu;how you know. 709440;1402273781;benkay;leastaways that's how i've always read it. odds of me being wrong on a thing are like 9:1 709441;1402273790;benkay;grew up in it. 709442;1402273821;benkay;tallit's an important gift to the newly adultified. 709443;1402273846;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Generally in the US baseball caps are used to hide bald spots and thinning hair. I kind of though tthe concept was cribbed from the Jews. 709444;1402273870;mircea_popescu;benkay just sayin', you never know what the REAL purpose is. 709445;1402273879;benkay;sure ofc 709446;1402273886;mircea_popescu;that's the heart of all conspiracy 709447;1402273887;benkay;social conformity, 900 others, bla bla bla 709448;1402274019;mircea_popescu;!mpif 709449;1402274021;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021703 BTC (Total: 434.08 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 709450;1402274040;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 709451;1402274040;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.49500922 BTC; -0.06019199 BTC (-0.0353%) since last check 1d 21h 52m 10s ago. 709452;1402274059;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13851 @ 0.0008552 = 11.8454 BTC [+] 709453;1402274136;mircea_popescu;frankenmint: why couldnt i simply pass on the link directly to the cli << you could open the link in a browser and past the contents directly to the cli 709454;1402274144;mircea_popescu;or use some sort of pipes with wget to do this 709455;1402274381;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades < yes make it so if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades << the humour of this has not been lost on me. 709456;1402274401;kakobrekla;:) 709457;1402274441;kakobrekla;dud. 709458;1402274463;mircea_popescu;no milk ;/ 709459;1402274479;kakobrekla;aww 709460;1402274482;BingoBoingo;Aww 709461;1402274484;*;kakobrekla calls usagi 709462;1402274505;mircea_popescu;i think this may be scam ;/ 709463;1402274521;kakobrekla;maybe he can dox milk for 0.1 btc 709464;1402274541;mircea_popescu;or ddos it from his home computer 709465;1402274577;BingoBoingo;;;google site:bitcoin-assets.com risperidone milk 709466;1402274578;gribble;No matches found. 709467;1402274791;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00085017 = 40.9782 BTC [-] {2} 709468;1402275425;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu benkay tallits also bulk up the shoulders nicely, hiding the kind of scrawniness that can only come with paper pushing 709469;1402275706;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00084797 = 21.2416 BTC [-] {3} 709470;1402275995;thestringpuller;"if your brother was a good king, he'd still be alive" -tywin 709471;1402276722;benkay;the domain man.systems is available 709472;1402276732;benkay;i discovered this with http://dumb.domains 709473;1402276732;assbot;DUMB.domains 709474;1402276740;benkay;and was paid to deliver this message 709475;1402276782;benkay;;;later tell fluffypony frisky.holdings lol you can use that for your future fund 709476;1402276782;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709477;1402276796;benkay;whoa fp offline for once 709478;1402276865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00085274 = 42.7223 BTC [+] 709479;1402277048;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00007007 = 0.3504 BTC [-] {4} 709480;1402277109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1750 @ 0.00007001 = 0.1225 BTC [-] {2} 709481;1402278272;mircea_popescu;mike_c hey i wanna argue with you some more. you busy ? 709482;1402278451;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07377776 = 2.7298 BTC [+] 709483;1402278480;mike_c;fire away 709484;1402278496;mircea_popescu;so, are all your btc currently invested in like stocks and shit ? 709485;1402278509;mike_c;hm 709486;1402278527;mike_c;hypothetically what do you call panacea? that's not stock and shit 709487;1402278530;mircea_popescu;doesn't have to be the personal you. the theoretical you, as described by must always eat cake 709488;1402278537;mircea_popescu;ok, securities. 709489;1402278566;mike_c;theoretically JD isn't a security, it's bankrolling a casino. 709490;1402278579;mircea_popescu;it's a security (an adjusted debenture) 709491;1402278609;mike_c;ok. seems like a broad definition, but then yes, i suppose the theoritcal me is invested in securities. 709492;1402278637;mircea_popescu;100% ? 709493;1402278653;BingoBoingo;Is uranium mine a security? 709494;1402278664;mike_c;to be clear (for the last time) we aren't talking about me, but what I would recommend. 709495;1402278665;BingoBoingo;And if so is it cake? 709496;1402278665;mircea_popescu;yourownership of it is. 709497;1402278674;mircea_popescu;mike_c your theoretical model. 709498;1402278685;mike_c;my theoritcal model would be 95% invested, yeas 709499;1402278688;mike_c;yeah 709500;1402278726;mircea_popescu;your theoretical model would be broke. 709501;1402278735;mike_c;it would disagree :D 709502;1402278757;mike_c;you mean it would be illiquid? 709503;1402278762;mircea_popescu;that shit where you're 95% invested at age 30 because whatever, you'll make more stiictly depends on fiat being paper. 709504;1402278783;mike_c;no, you're invested because no reason not to have your money out working for you 709505;1402278797;mircea_popescu;anyway, what i had in mind just got shot because i wasn't expecting you to be this reckless :D 709506;1402278802;mike_c;hehe 709507;1402278829;mike_c;why sit around with a huge cash balance that isn't growing when there are good investment opportunities? 709508;1402278830;mircea_popescu;can't fucking argue with you without a degree in mikeity. 709509;1402278845;mircea_popescu;i'lltell you why 709510;1402278880;mircea_popescu;ever heard of thierry de la villehuchet ? 709511;1402278884;mike_c;no 709512;1402278902;mircea_popescu;french aristocrat from a family that had been doing banking for centuries 709513;1402278903;mike_c;hm, a madoff investor 709514;1402278920;mircea_popescu;recently killed himself, over the net results of the wrong answer to that question 709515;1402278944;mike_c;lots of investors jump off buildings during every crisis cuz they are dumb. 709516;1402278996;mike_c;i'm not saying put 95% of your cash in pirate. or in a variety of investments that are all actually putting their money in pirate. 709517;1402279016;mircea_popescu;but can you know. 709518;1402279021;mike_c;yes. 709519;1402279029;mircea_popescu;which conveniently fixes the shotwound in my idea. 709520;1402279039;mike_c;heh. pleasure doing business. 709521;1402279059;mircea_popescu;the reason the theoretical you wants to buy "shitty" investments is that buying all the good investments and only those exposes you to a class risk 709522;1402279070;mircea_popescu;ie, they're not likely to be unrelated, whether you know this or not. 709523;1402279077;mircea_popescu;ie, they're all into pirate. 709524;1402279113;mike_c;JD is not actually running some elaborate fake movie on its site while secretly running a ponzi. 709525;1402279124;mircea_popescu;this is besides the point tho 709526;1402279130;mircea_popescu;human activity is bound in that it's run by humans. 709527;1402279161;mike_c;ok.. 709528;1402279176;mike_c;so the class risk is that all BTC bizness could go belly up? 709529;1402279181;mike_c;like by some decree? 709530;1402279191;mike_c;i propose doog and kako would still return funds. 709531;1402279205;mircea_popescu;the class risk is that in general, all the fashionable stuff in any space tends to go belly up together a lot more than a "unrelated" model would seem to indicate. 709532;1402279226;mircea_popescu;and by fashionable i actually mean "good returns" 709533;1402279255;mike_c;so i should diversify into "bad returns". hmm.. 709534;1402279327;BingoBoingo;Not necessarily bad returns, but... neutral returns like holding coin otherwise uninvested and other brussel sprouts. 709535;1402279349;mike_c;let's take a fiat example. warren invests in good companies with durable competitive advantages and global footprints. what's the class risk? he only invests in good companies? 709536;1402279430;mircea_popescu;the class risk is exactly that. he's now stuck derping about how "america will prevail" 709537;1402279447;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't want to be in his shoes. he's saved by old age, and by the fact that business cycles used to be slow. 709538;1402279451;mircea_popescu;this won't hold in the future. 709539;1402279478;mike_c;he owns lots of companies outside US, and the US companies sell more product outside america than inside. US could get wiped off map, and as long as Omaha was left standing he'd be ok. 709540;1402279503;mike_c;i wouldn't want to be him because he's trying to grow a capital base of $200B. 709541;1402279518;mike_c;plus he's 80-something 709542;1402279518;mircea_popescu;actually that's not particularly concerning, the size. 709543;1402279542;mircea_popescu;let me make this argument at you in a different vein. 709544;1402279566;dub;US could get wiped off map.. Inshallah 709545;1402279655;mike_c;i gotta pop off for 30 mins. back in a bit and will continue if you're still around. 709546;1402279724;mircea_popescu;aite. 709547;1402279759;thestringpuller;Why is Aurenheimer being a n00b? 709548;1402279761;*;benkay is on tenterhooks, goes back to the editor 709549;1402279768;thestringpuller;Guess he likes being a troll that much. 709550;1402279777;thestringpuller;all for the lulz 709551;1402279793;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00085274 = 16.33 BTC [+] 709552;1402279815;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller that'd be the best construction lol 709553;1402280037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3871 @ 0.00007001 = 0.271 BTC [-] 709554;1402280178;TheNewDeal;MP, so what's the magic number of % assets invested for us young guns 709555;1402280179;TheNewDeal;:D 709556;1402280220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12500 @ 0.00006099 = 0.7624 BTC [-] {9} 709557;1402280241;dub;69% 709558;1402280349;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal wait what ? 709559;1402280559;TheNewDeal;nice dub 709560;1402280586;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00085365 = 16.0059 BTC [+] 709561;1402280617;TheNewDeal;in reference to the mike_c 95% invested 709562;1402280624;TheNewDeal;whats the magic %age 709563;1402280672;mircea_popescu;well, you familiar with the kelly criterion ? 709564;1402280690;mike_c;i am of course. 709565;1402280722;mike_c;plus, i'm back. 709566;1402280776;mike_c;so, TheNewDeal: kelly says in the simple case (1:1 bet) to bet your edge. 709567;1402280795;mike_c;if you have a 5% edge, bet 5% of your bankroll 709568;1402280806;TheNewDeal;i just read your article about kelly the other day 709569;1402280814;mike_c;but it gets more complicated with odds and with multiple wagers/investments. 709570;1402280884;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal now model a beting situation where you also have income 709571;1402280890;mircea_popescu;it'll skew the optimal towards more risk 709572;1402280899;mircea_popescu;the more a % of your stake the income is, the more risk you take. 709573;1402280912;mircea_popescu;mike_c ok so, back to our discussion 709574;1402280941;mircea_popescu;consider all you have is 100 btc, and jd offers you a shot at 200 btc. would you take the deal ? 709575;1402280956;mike_c;of course not 709576;1402280967;TheNewDeal;JD... 709577;1402280971;mike_c;justdice 709578;1402280978;TheNewDeal;i know 709579;1402280991;TheNewDeal;its a place to dump btc that you no longer wish to own 709580;1402281011;mike_c;mircea_popescu: and i mean of course not on the betting or investing side. 709581;1402281015;mircea_popescu;mike_c now, could we say that since you're proposed to either lose all your money or win 100 btc this deal isn't very good, 709582;1402281031;mircea_popescu;but if you were proposed to either lose all your btc or win all the btc there are, then it'd be a fine shot ? 709583;1402281068;mike_c;you mean 100 vs 20999900? then yes. 709584;1402281077;TheNewDeal;depending on the odds 709585;1402281174;TheNewDeal;but even your 2/3 chance of a 2X payout, kelly says to bet a fraction of your stake 709586;1402281182;mircea_popescu;mike_c now obviously as fair as this deal would be to you, it's still not particularly fair to jd. 709587;1402281193;mircea_popescu;in fact, the poorer you are, the further your fair deal is forsanity 709588;1402281208;mircea_popescu;EXCEPT if you're worth ~7 mn btc. then the deal is actually fair for both ends. 709589;1402281226;mike_c;fair but foolish, yes. 709590;1402281227;mircea_popescu;this is precisely why i said earlier 200bn isn't the concern. the bigger you grow, the more deals are exposed to you. 709591;1402281251;mike_c;not sure i give you that. different deals are exposed. some are removed. 709592;1402281258;mircea_popescu;none are removed. 709593;1402281272;mircea_popescu;as a hot guy you can still fuck all the ugly chicks you want 709594;1402281282;mircea_popescu;as a smart guy you can still say all thestupid shit you may want to say 709595;1402281294;mircea_popescu;the fact that you don't want to do it doesn't mean it's been removed. 709596;1402281315;mike_c;removed from the world of "profitable options" 709597;1402281349;mike_c;it is not profitalbe to spend my time making 50% on 2m instead of 2% on 100b. 709598;1402281379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07370061 = 0.1474 BTC [-] 709599;1402281443;mike_c;but, not to sidetrack if that wasn't the main point. 709600;1402281501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0727658 = 0.1455 BTC [-] 709601;1402281697;mircea_popescu;i don't follow this logic, even if it is a sidepoint 709602;1402281881;mike_c;only so much time in the day. it is unprofitable to spend it on endeavors that can't return a reasonable percentage on my enlarged capital base. 709603;1402281893;mircea_popescu;what's the percentage matter. 709604;1402281987;TheNewDeal;diversification maaan 709605;1402282008;mike_c;why would i expend effort on something that may significantly increase 1% of my base instead of something that will only moderately increase 20% of my base? it would be unprofitable. 709606;1402282027;mircea_popescu;to put it another way : behind door A there's a bacterium. in the proper agar it doubles every half minute. behind door B there's a naked buxom beauty. you can pick either door, the prize will be entirely yours to dispose as you please. 709607;1402282030;mircea_popescu;you're taking the bacterium ? 709608;1402282128;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2R06PDC.txt ) 709609;1402282128;BingoBoingo;!b 2 709610;1402282130;mike_c;i am failing to map that metaphor onto our financial discussion. 709611;1402282132;punkman;aesthetics are important 709612;1402282187;BingoBoingo;Hauling trash can offer great returns, but it isn't very fun or glamorous. 709613;1402282193;mircea_popescu;mike_c well, there's this chain of pizzerias, which will be doubling each year for the next decade, yielding a bunch of pizzerias. 709614;1402282211;mircea_popescu;or, there's benkay's ocean mining conglomerate, which will gain 10% over the same decade 709615;1402282218;mircea_popescu;which 10% could buy about one trillion pizzerias. 709616;1402282219;mircea_popescu;which ? 709617;1402282233;mike_c;well, this is kind of my point. 709618;1402282251;mike_c;with a huge capital base you don't even consider the pizzerias 709619;1402282272;mike_c;wait 709620;1402282280;mircea_popescu;lol 709621;1402282294;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1114 @ 0.00207449 = 2.311 BTC [-] {3} 709622;1402282324;mike_c;pizzeria = $100k. will double for 10 years yielding.. $100m 709623;1402282341;mike_c;with $200b in equity you ignore that shit. 709624;1402282347;mike_c;because it is a waste of yoru time. 709625;1402282352;mike_c;that opportunity is not yours. 709626;1402282363;mike_c;it is the opportunity of a lifetime for the guy with 100k. 709627;1402282363;mircea_popescu;it's a waste of everyone's time, just, others don't have the luxury to notice. 709628;1402282379;TheNewDeal;lol 709629;1402282381;mircea_popescu;like you know, a dribblet of cum i spilled on the floor is something my well sated slaves ignore 709630;1402282395;mircea_popescu;but would be the opportunity of a lifetime for a random girl off twitter. 709631;1402282434;mike_c;ok :) fine. so if you assume the people worth talking about all have an enlarged capital base, then we can scope the conversation to that. 709632;1402282441;mircea_popescu;this is why i introduced the bitcoin gambling thing. to point out that the world is a snowglobe whether you are big enough to notice or not., 709633;1402282465;mircea_popescu;and in that context, a large capital base works you no harm. 709634;1402282568;mircea_popescu;http://www.bootygirlz.com/boobygirl_home.shtml << the revenge of 1992 709635;1402282570;assbot;Bootygirlz.com Buxom White Whore Boobygirl sucks and fucks Groups of Hung Black Men 709636;1402282625;mthreat;buffett talks about that a lot, e.g. from 1994: "Though there are as many good businesses as ever, it is useless for us to make purchases that are inconsequential in relation to Berkshire's capital. … We now consider a security for purchase only if we believe we can deploy at least $100 million in it. Given that minimum, Berkshire's investment universe has shrunk dramatically. 709637;1402282632;mthreat;" 709638;1402282638;mircea_popescu;sure. 709639;1402282662;mircea_popescu;he also says that he's not going to discuss his strategy given that it's valuable and easily replicated 709640;1402282669;mike_c;ok.. perhaps this will bring our lines of thought closer: in my theoretical model, someone with as much bitcoin as you should absolutely not be 95% invested. 709641;1402282676;mircea_popescu;soyou know, gotta take what the man says with a gtain of salt. 709642;1402282718;mircea_popescu;mike_c well amusingly enough i actually am holding tons of paper. just, it's to a large degree my own. 709643;1402282718;TheNewDeal;regardless, Buffet's capital is how many times greater than most people? 709644;1402282782;mircea_popescu;which brings us to the problem : because bitcoin is fixed, a 95% investment situation will be unavoidable statistically. as the value of all paper will much exceed the value of cash btc available, willy-nilly. 709645;1402282795;mircea_popescu;and so everyone will be quite invested. 709646;1402282814;mircea_popescu;which is why the stability of the investment universe is actually drastically more important for bitcoin than for fiat. 709647;1402282888;mike_c;and "cash" will still be king :) 709648;1402282965;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34736 @ 0.000854 = 29.6645 BTC [+] {3} 709649;1402283038;TheNewDeal;btc not the king?!?! 709650;1402283055;mike_c;keep up here, cash = liquid btc 709651;1402283061;TheNewDeal;ahhh 709652;1402283081;TheNewDeal;MP i've got a question about reported results for btc companies 709653;1402283099;mike_c;although mp has proposed that ballers swap shares of mpoe like it's cash. which is interesting. 709654;1402283110;TheNewDeal;specifically, why doesn't bitbet have a report like "bets pending, resolved, gain, etc" 709655;1402283116;TheNewDeal;like when I look up my betting address 709656;1402283158;TheNewDeal;the way they report it now - with bets made taken as a windfall, and bets resolved as a gain, kind of hides their results of their bets 709657;1402283188;mike_c;catch you guys tomorrow. 709658;1402283336;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal becase back when bitbet was invented we didn't have an0 yet. 709659;1402283372;mircea_popescu;!up smickles 709660;1402283380;mircea_popescu;meanwhile the channel went +m 709661;1402283383;TheNewDeal;but now bets are greater than incoming revenue 709662;1402283393;mircea_popescu;you gotta id with gribble then pm assbot !up to get permavoiced. 709663;1402283401;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot smickles 709664;1402283402;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~ec2-user@ec2-54-227-61-57.compute-1.amazonaws.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user smickles: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=smickles | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=smickles | Rated since: Wed Jan 4 21:28:52 2012 709665;1402283408;smickles;!up 709666;1402283410;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal well yeah that can happen. it's rare 709667;1402283416;mircea_popescu;smickles in pm tho 709668;1402283417;smickles;tst 709669;1402283443;mircea_popescu;there. 709670;1402283456;smickles;whee :) 709671;1402283473;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ for background 709672;1402283474;assbot;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 709673;1402283506;smickles;it's like the channel just went on without me 709674;1402283533;mircea_popescu;haha. i don't even recall, where you here when logs were introduced ? the bash ? 709675;1402283548;mircea_popescu;we even have a secretary now, with a phone number and everything. 709676;1402283554;smickles;maybe just the beginning 709677;1402283565;mircea_popescu;;;topic 709678;1402283566;gribble;http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 709679;1402283575;mircea_popescu;and a blog network! 709680;1402283580;smickles;oh my, can I even type words properly anymore? 709681;1402283624;smickles;what a thing this is now! 709682;1402283655;mircea_popescu;ikr. 709683;1402283687;smickles;do people get de-voiced if assbot has a low L2 of them? 709684;1402283690;mircea_popescu;;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com reutersemily 709685;1402283691;gribble;NEXT: 21-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 23-04-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 22-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: 709686;1402283704;mircea_popescu;smickles if it's <1 they justcan't self voice anymoar. 709687;1402283758;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00085638 = 15.2007 BTC [+] {2} 709688;1402283866;smickles;so much to read, no way i'll get current hehe 709689;1402283904;mircea_popescu;lol 709690;1402283910;BingoBoingo;smickles: Either that or the kids will be out of the house. 709691;1402283968;smickles;ah, speaking of that. I have to give them a bath. bb in 20 min or so 709692;1402284851;smickles;bak 709693;1402284992;TheNewDeal;how did bathing the little shits go? 709694;1402285111;mircea_popescu;!up unbalanced 709695;1402285202;smickles;TheNewDeal: awfully 709696;1402285214;smickles;they are tired, i did it too late in the day 709697;1402285243;TheNewDeal;that sounds like a good deal? 709698;1402286015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10691 @ 0.00085392 = 9.1293 BTC [-] 709699;1402286479;TheNewDeal;bitcoin network needs some steriods this week 709700;1402286529;mircea_popescu;;;estimate 709701;1402286530;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 11861036168.8 based on data since last change | 11960937288.6 based on data for last three days 709702;1402286581;BingoBoingo;I'd be thrilled if it stalled out until Bastille Day 709703;1402286582;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 709704;1402286584;gribble;Current Blocks: 304889 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1542 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11876740684.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.02231 709705;1402286620;TheNewDeal;I'm updating TheNewDeals estimate to 4.8% increase 709706;1402286625;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27213 @ 0.00085428 = 23.2475 BTC [+] {2} 709707;1402286817;TheNewDeal;still looks like there should be a third change unless things start going backwards 709708;1402286847;TheNewDeal;;;calc (14/11.756)^(1/3) 709709;1402286848;gribble;Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 709710;1402286860;TheNewDeal;;;calc (14/11.756)**(1/3) 709711;1402286860;gribble;1.05996002345 709712;1402286882;benkay;wowee. 4.8% you say? 709713;1402286932;TheNewDeal;my model is with starting hashrate of 83.5 PH and a daily growth rate of 1.0095 709714;1402286952;TheNewDeal;trying to be conservative 709715;1402287008;TheNewDeal;I'm pretty noobish at modeling a random walk though 709716;1402287015;TheNewDeal;so I skipped that 709717;1402287296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1609 @ 0.00085274 = 1.3721 BTC [-] 709718;1402287354;mircea_popescu;!up btamm13 709719;1402287479;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18791 @ 0.00084926 = 15.9584 BTC [-] 709720;1402287518;benkay;TheNewDeal: care to take a guess at when the diff will finally reverse? 709721;1402287529;TheNewDeal;ohmygosh 709722;1402287557;benkay;? 709723;1402287568;TheNewDeal;I haven't the slightest clue 709724;1402287626;TheNewDeal;http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png this one makes it look like august/september (if the trend continues*) 709725;1402287795;TheNewDeal;I've got a lot of my stake invested in the Bastille Day, starting to make me sweat 709726;1402287891;mircea_popescu;later all. 709727;1402287906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00085509 = 15.0496 BTC [+] {2} 709728;1402287911;TheNewDeal;peace 709729;1402287918;thestringpuller;IDIFF may be a better bet to make overall 709730;1402287933;TheNewDeal;idiff? 709731;1402287972;TheNewDeal;oh, I'm not on mpex unfortunately 709732;1402287986;TheNewDeal;not nearly as rich as you all 709733;1402288109;TheNewDeal;I felt the desire to take a risk with an a decent amount of my capital on something that actually can be calculated easily 709734;1402288138;TheNewDeal;getting very tired with btc price bets 709735;1402288212;thestringpuller;i don't use mpex 709736;1402288214;thestringpuller;just coinbr 709737;1402288217;TheNewDeal;ooooh 709738;1402288234;thestringpuller;i'm also one of the few people here who's fiat cashflow > crypto cash flow 709739;1402288234;TheNewDeal;who runs that? 709740;1402288238;thestringpuller;jurov: 709741;1402288361;TheNewDeal;wait a second 709742;1402288367;TheNewDeal;those x.diff look underpriced 709743;1402288394;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71926 @ 0.00085021 = 61.1522 BTC [-] {4} 709744;1402288427;TheNewDeal;ahhh maybe it's pretty accurate 709745;1402288516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00085564 = 8.4281 BTC [+] 709746;1402288677;thestringpuller;hmmm 709747;1402288706;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 709748;1402288708;gribble;Current Blocks: 304890 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1541 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 12 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11879938287.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.04951 709749;1402288734;TheNewDeal;gribble is such a copycat 709750;1402288753;thestringpuller;hmmm 709751;1402288769;TheNewDeal;totally just updated my prediction to 4.8% 709752;1402288796;cazalla;don't sweat it TheNewDeal, it's a lock 709753;1402288821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27883 @ 0.00084734 = 23.6264 BTC [-] {2} 709754;1402288822;thestringpuller;it might not happen before June IDIFF settles 709755;1402288853;thestringpuller;the diff change 709756;1402288856;thestringpuller;if it does... 709757;1402288861;TheNewDeal;I've got the diff change happening around 06:00 on 6/18 GMT time 709758;1402288882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15717 @ 0.00084622 = 13.3 BTC [-] {2} 709759;1402288895;thestringpuller;that's after 709760;1402288897;TheNewDeal;that's with a 13.35 day total time between diff changes 709761;1402288898;thestringpuller;it settles 709762;1402288910;TheNewDeal;it said midnight of thi no?rd wednesday, or 6/18 709763;1402288920;TheNewDeal;it said midnight of third wednesday, or 6/18, no? 709764;1402288937;thestringpuller;oh i guess 11:59 on 6/18 709765;1402288945;TheNewDeal;23:59 709766;1402288984;thestringpuller;yea or that 709767;1402288994;thestringpuller;hmm, gonna be close 709768;1402289002;thestringpuller;;;google why does claire danes never age? 709769;1402289002;gribble;Claire Danes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Claire Danes - Biography - IMDb: ; Claire Danes Biography - Facts, Birthday, Life Story - Biography.com: 709770;1402289041;TheNewDeal;;;google photoshop 709771;1402289041;gribble;Photoshop Inspiration, Photoshop Information | Photoshop.com: ; Photoshop Online Tools | Photoshop.com: ; Download Photoshop CC by joining Creative Cloud today | Adobe ...: 709772;1402289054;TheNewDeal;this one looks a little iffy https://www.google.com/search?q=claire+danes&safe=off&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fzuVU8f4MNizyAT6i4HIAw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=643#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=eojvOvIhxj6grM%253A%3BF43YDPK0VqpqnM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.beautyriot.com%252Fphotos%252Fclaire-danes-straight-blonde-romantic-updo-hairstyle.j 709773;1402289055;assbot;claire danes - Google Search 709774;1402289055;TheNewDeal;pg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.beautyriot.com%252Fcelebrities%252Fclaire-danes%252Fphoto-claire-danes-straight-blonde-romantic-updo-hairstyle-pid27671%3B400%3B544 709775;1402289110;TheNewDeal;but she does look like she non-ages well 709776;1402289245;thestringpuller;lol 709777;1402289383;TheNewDeal;that's kinda neat that all mpex people can create i.diff futures 709778;1402289411;Mats_cd03;claire danes is scary 709779;1402289472;TheNewDeal;pretty good looking in my opinion 709780;1402289506;TheNewDeal;http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2013/09/24/087/n/1922398/7d58b88d6672e166_thumb_temp35398911380070601/i/Claire-Danes-Homeland-Premiere-Video.jpg 709781;1402289674;TheNewDeal;cazalla would you like to buy some of my exposure to the bastille day bet? 709782;1402290039;cazalla;i've already bet yes so i'll pass 709783;1402290075;TheNewDeal;doh 709784;1402290121;cazalla;dw, it's like the Oklahoma Michigan bet and nobody had that one 709785;1402290218;TheNewDeal;not familiar with the one you're referring to 709786;1402290245;cazalla;the one with the crooked fkn zebras 709787;1402290279;TheNewDeal;whaaaaaaaaat 709788;1402290282;TheNewDeal;oh 709789;1402290284;TheNewDeal;refs 709790;1402290300;cazalla;ha sorry :P 709791;1402290335;TheNewDeal;sorry, still lost me here 709792;1402291993;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00085147 = 7.4504 BTC [+] 709793;1402292054;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00005366 = 0.2146 BTC [-] 709794;1402292115;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00085125 = 23.5371 BTC [-] {2} 709795;1402293945;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00085102 = 34.9769 BTC [-] {3} 709796;1402294616;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00085081 = 19.994 BTC [-] 709797;1402294677;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00085074 = 5.3171 BTC [-] {2} 709798;1402295470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30490 @ 0.00085066 = 25.9366 BTC [-] 709799;1402296202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81595 @ 0.00085596 = 69.8421 BTC [+] {3} 709800;1402296417;fluffypony;lol 709801;1402296442;fluffypony;;;later tell benkay F.OLD as the symbol? 709802;1402296442;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709803;1402296934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07270056 = 0.727 BTC [-] {2} 709804;1402297056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32550 @ 0.00084983 = 27.662 BTC [-] {2} 709805;1402298093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28341 @ 0.00085549 = 24.2454 BTC [+] {2} 709806;1402298398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0232046 = 0.232 BTC [-] 709807;1402298459;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0232021 = 0.232 BTC [-] 709808;1402298520;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07200041 = 0.72 BTC [-] 709809;1402298582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.0250331 = 0.2253 BTC [-] {3} 709810;1402298583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0235962 = 0.4719 BTC [+] 709811;1402298642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07200031 = 0.432 BTC [-] {2} 709812;1402298811;Namworld;CBTC is still valued quite high. 709813;1402298825;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.02327155 = 0.4422 BTC [-] {2} 709814;1402298868;jurov; [00:00:24] no no, coinbr resolves to hookers << what? 709815;1402299082;Namworld;The mermaid, he must recognize her, must be one of his local hookers. 709816;1402299107;Namworld;That's the most logical explanation I can find, and it's not very logical, but eh. 709817;1402299133;fluffypony;this is classic 709818;1402299133;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.msg7204419#msg7204419 709819;1402299133;assbot;Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) 709820;1402299139;fluffypony;"havelock should hv done their checks on him and not offer scam companies." 709821;1402299145;fluffypony;if only. 709822;1402299191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23296 @ 0.0008566 = 19.9554 BTC [+] 709823;1402299204;Namworld;What kind of checks can they run at all anyway? Dox people? Seems limited to that. 709824;1402299372;fluffypony;Namworld: I think that a starting point would be historicity 709825;1402299376;fluffypony;which is what the WoT provides 709826;1402299419;fluffypony;the person is a) known, b) trusted by some when trading / lending / borrowing / dealing, c) has been around for a while, d) has not absconded with funds in the history of their presence on the WoT 709827;1402299426;fluffypony;just a starting point, mind you 709828;1402299435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.05051919 = 0.2526 BTC [-] {3} 709829;1402299590;jurov;this is how england worked, back when it was still a respectable country, up until the socialist revolution of the 80s. << lol if only margie t. heard you 709830;1402299724;jurov; [00:33:43] BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker << kakobrekla you said you don't do assbot ad slots :D 709831;1402299740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1000 @ 0.0003 = 0.3 BTC [+] 709832;1402299746;BingoBoingo;!mpif 709833;1402299748;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 BTC (Total: 434.10 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 709834;1402299761;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 709835;1402299761;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.51197619 BTC; +0.01696697 BTC (+0.0100%) since last check 7h 8m 41s ago. 709836;1402299801;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00085413 = 21.2678 BTC [-] {2} 709837;1402299801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 359 @ 0.0003 = 0.1077 BTC [+] 709838;1402300037;BingoBoingo;%ticker 709839;1402300039;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 709840;1402300068;Namworld;fluffypony, the real world doesn't care about reality. You dox people and that's it. 709841;1402300087;Namworld;You don't dig for dirt. 709842;1402300106;fluffypony;Namworld: but what does knowing their real identity do? they could have run all sorts of scams and just not (yet) been caught, they could have had out-of-court settlements and all sorts 709843;1402300148;fluffypony;or even worse - they could be 100% genuine and yet still be involved in completely baseless court action that someone has taken against them (pissed off ex-girlfriend or ex-employee or ex-business-partner) 709844;1402300217;Namworld;If there's no criminal record, it's good enough. Notice I said the real world didn't care about REALITY. 709845;1402300293;Namworld;So I'm well aware of those issues... but not everyone will run proper background checks. 709846;1402300392;fluffypony;yeah 709847;1402300957;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/malaysian-online-retailer-accepts-bitcoin-wont-convert-fiat-currency/ 709848;1402300957;assbot;Malaysian Online Retailer Accepts Bitcoin, Won't Convert to Fiat Currency 709849;1402301140;fluffypony;KILL THE MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER! 709850;1402301255;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: OMG going to get banned from Twitter nao!!! 709851;1402301271;fluffypony;I was just quoting Derek Zoolander - ban HIM from Twitter! 709852;1402301448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00085243 = 9.8882 BTC [-] {2} 709853;1402302546;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 468 @ 0.00203981 = 0.9546 BTC [-] 709854;1402302668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00085224 = 14.2324 BTC [-] 709855;1402302851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00085718 = 15.6007 BTC [+] 709856;1402303766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00084992 = 23.1943 BTC [-] {2} 709857;1402303797;jurov;http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527561/military-funds-brain-computer-interfaces-to-control-feelings/ 709858;1402303797;assbot;DARPA Program Seeks to Use Brain Implants to Control Mental Illness | MIT Technology Review 709859;1402303859;jurov;here we go, govt-approved mental states 709860;1402303904;jurov;!up lamosty 709861;1402303912;jurov;!up xe4l 709862;1402303913;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb 709863;1402303913;assbot;Gay bomb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 709864;1402303922;jurov;!up Evolyn 709865;1402303930;jurov;!up equex 709866;1402303938;jurov;!up Poffertje 709867;1402303949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00084619 = 28.9397 BTC [-] {2} 709868;1402303962;jurov;!up deafboy 709869;1402304018;jurov;pankkake: i really hope these electrodes end up as ignobel candidates, too 709870;1402304761;Namworld;I really hope the "mentally ill" group doesn't include the whole Earth population 709871;1402304964;pankkake;they're already feeding a large chunk of the population with antidepressants 709872;1402305093;FabianB;kakobrekla: thanks, works great :) 709873;1402305278;Namworld;I was more hinting about technology eventually reaching brain control chip level and the technology being applied to everyone. Because let's face it 1. The brain is mechanical 2. You can control just about any sort of machine given the time to develop the approriate tools 3. Someone at some point in time will try to get it installed on everyone for selfish purposes. 709874;1402305389;pankkake;well, that's the next step 709875;1402305474;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5410 @ 0.0008472 = 4.5834 BTC [+] 709876;1402305636;Namworld;Eh, misuse of new technologies for the purpose of enslavement is nothing new. 709877;1402305719;jurov;the brain is not "mechanical" in contemporary technology sense. it's wetware with myriads of interlocking electrochemical processes 709878;1402305846;Namworld;Yes, I didn't mean mechanical in that fashion. More that chemical reactions are akin to machines. Although I guess it's not good practice to speak casually like that. 709879;1402305926;jurov;do we really have such machines? i don't think so 709880;1402305998;punkman;the technology of the demagogue is as old as dirt, who needs brain-controlling computars 709881;1402306025;jurov;even neural network simulators were found to have weakness - researchers were able to imperceptibly (to humans) change the samples which the neural networks miscategorized 709882;1402306117;jurov;punkman can post-traumatic depression be cured by demagogy? 709883;1402306151;Namworld;I never said we were there yet. The brain is extremely complex. So many molecules of all kinds, complex structures. 709884;1402306191;punkman;jurov, I'd guess it can 709885;1402306313;Namworld;Simulating/scanning a live one properly and actually controlling thoughts through simulations and predictions of inputs effects would probably require computing power and an amount of energy that just isn't realistically feasible for centuries. 709886;1402306438;punkman;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2022822 709887;1402306439;assbot;Tailspotting: Identifying and Profiting from CEO Vacation Trips by David Yermack :: SSRN 709888;1402306448;Namworld;But given the time to get the tools to do it, it's not unrealistic. It falls under the current known laws of physics. 709889;1402306788;Namworld;Unlike other things like wormholes and FTL through space compression, which are not yet falling within certain laws of physics and aren't thought to be likely. The conditions needed to make that happen are huge and uncertain. 709890;1402306794;jurov;well.. that's such positivist statment 709891;1402306812;jurov;tell me, what will mpoe trade for next month? 709892;1402306835;jurov;that falls under laws of physics, too :D 709893;1402306850;Namworld;We'll probably have brain control chips before we can get outside the solar system, assuming we're not wiped out by some cataclysmic event first. 709894;1402306904;Namworld;Well, I guess, but to predict that accurately, wouldn't I need to accurately simulate all brains in the world, including the Earth and all stellar input that affect those brains? 709895;1402306904;xmj;solar flares? 709896;1402306970;jurov;what if brain activity gets proven to be incomputable? 709897;1402306986;Namworld;Which is even worse.... when it comes to finances, we have experience of what works and doesn't, what's good signs and doesn't, and guesstimating 709898;1402306999;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27477 @ 0.00085276 = 23.4313 BTC [+] 709899;1402307006;Namworld;Well I'd be a bit surprised, but yes. That's always possible. 709900;1402307040;jurov;what's surprising? 709901;1402307097;jurov;even most 100-byte asm programs can't be determined whether they'll eventually finish and how 709902;1402307115;jurov;but hooray, let's simulate billions of neurons 709903;1402307150;jurov;brb 709904;1402307186;punkman;I have a working reddit brain simulator 709905;1402307194;Namworld;It's a very small amount of matter compared to the universe. I'd assume we can refine technology close enough to simulate it accurately, or almost, given the resources out there. 709906;1402307197;punkman;it only ever outputs "lol" though 709907;1402307300;Namworld;I'm sure if you could simulate the whole of the system running your 100-byte asm programs, you'd be able to determine when it would eventually finish. 709908;1402307335;Namworld;It's really about simulating a complete system of interacting atoms. 709909;1402307528;Namworld;But enough distant future hypothetical scenarios, it's not like it has any usefulness, other than maybe entertaining oneself. 709910;1402307542;Namworld;It's 5:50 am, I need sleep, and I'm vastly out of topic for this channel I think, mostly rambling and talking to myself. 709911;1402307649;Namworld;So goodnight everyone, I'll go before I spout out too much more nonsense. 709912;1402308097;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00084814 = 24.384 BTC [-] 709913;1402308646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00084814 = 12.0436 BTC [-] 709914;1402309317;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11775 @ 0.00084697 = 9.9731 BTC [-] {2} 709915;1402309825;kakobrekla;jurov just giving credit where the credit is due. 709916;1402309927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00084931 = 20.893 BTC [+] 709917;1402310354;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34102 @ 0.00084653 = 28.8684 BTC [-] {2} 709918;1402311086;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 313 @ 0.0020495 = 0.6415 BTC [+] 709919;1402311147;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00084736 = 11.2699 BTC [+] 709920;1402311147;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07330217 = 0.1466 BTC [+] {2} 709921;1402311208;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00084609 = 17.7679 BTC [-] {2} 709922;1402311331;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1581 @ 0.00084605 = 1.3376 BTC [-] {2} 709923;1402312339;mircea_popescu;;;seen Naphex 709924;1402312340;gribble;Naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 12 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: o/ 709925;1402312348;mircea_popescu;Naphex http://trilema.com/2012/piete-intreprinzatori-tehnologii-chestii/ << old skool :D 709926;1402312349;assbot;Piete, intreprinzatori, tehnologii, chestii. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 709927;1402312357;mircea_popescu;FabianB sent. 709928;1402312477;mircea_popescu;;;seen littlep1 709929;1402312477;gribble;littlep1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 hours, 9 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: he sent me an email about the corporate failures list threatening to sue me 709930;1402312503;mircea_popescu;so was this a kinda lame attempt at social engineering or what. 709931;1402312617;mircea_popescu;Namworld: What kind of checks can they run at all anyway? Dox people? Seems limited to that. << if they don't know why are they pretending to be in business ? "oh, doctors should diagnose people not feed them random pills" "what diagnose can they do anyway" 709932;1402312747;mircea_popescu;jurov: 709933;1402312747;mircea_popescu;this is how england worked, back when it was still a respectable country, up until the socialist revolution of the 80s. << lol if only margie t. heard you << "During her premiership Thatcher had the second-lowest average approval rating, at 40 percent, of any post-war Prime Minister. " 709934;1402312774;mircea_popescu;let's not blame the wrong gal for people's brains turning to shit. 709935;1402312794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.25001666 = 9.0006 BTC [+] {2} 709936;1402312916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2454 = 0.7362 BTC [-] {2} 709937;1402312977;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 54 @ 0.24500666 = 13.2304 BTC [-] {3} 709938;1402313221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13258 @ 0.00084736 = 11.2343 BTC [+] 709939;1402313709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4500 @ 0.00005499 = 0.2475 BTC [+] 709940;1402313771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21815 @ 0.00084929 = 18.5273 BTC [+] {3} 709941;1402314319;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00085305 = 8.1893 BTC [+] 709942;1402314380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 200 @ 0.01886788 = 3.7736 BTC [-] {25} 709943;1402314441;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00382684 = 0.3827 BTC [-] {3} 709944;1402314473;mircea_popescu;Namworld: fluffypony, the real world doesn't care about reality. << more like the reverse. reality doesn't care for whatever set you happen to have mislabeled as "the real world". probably a selection of terminally unemployable couch surfing webexperts. 709945;1402314502;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005033 = 0.5033 BTC [-] {7} 709946;1402314604;Apocalyptic;in other news, ATC price graphs from x-bt on http://atc.blockr.io/ 709947;1402314634;Mats_cd03;hue hue hue 709948;1402314706;mircea_popescu;Namworld Because let's face it 1. The brain is mechanical << you know what else lets-face-it-is-mechanical ? the fucking atom. 709949;1402314710;mircea_popescu;or wait, notrly. 709950;1402314730;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic nice1 709951;1402314742;mircea_popescu;hm 709952;1402314747;mircea_popescu;;;seen thickasthieves 709953;1402314747;gribble;thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: raccoons are like idiot cats 709954;1402314757;mircea_popescu;;;later tell ThickAsThieves in other news, ATC price graphs from x-bt on http://atc.blockr.io/ 709955;1402314757;gribble;The operation succeeded. 709956;1402314790;mircea_popescu;10 blocks in 25 minutes too, nuts. 709957;1402314792;mircea_popescu;%d 709958;1402314854;Apocalyptic;yeah unbalanced has rent some hashpower 709959;1402314865;mircea_popescu;jurov: punkman can post-traumatic depression be cured by demagogy? << yes if full specter. probably not if randomly limited. 709960;1402314929;mircea_popescu;!up joesmoe 709961;1402314941;joesmoe;test 709962;1402314945;joesmoe;awesome thanks man 709963;1402314956;mircea_popescu;lol ok i'll stfu with namworld's 1800s ideas about the brain, jurov handed him his ass pretty admirably :D 709964;1402314991;mircea_popescu;punkman: it only ever outputs "lol" though << must be only simulating the left brain 709965;1402315029;mircea_popescu;joesmoe did you want to say something ? 709966;1402315074;joesmoe;nah i just wanted to join in the convo 709967;1402315244;joesmoe;was more interested in the conversation you were having the other day about south america 709968;1402315249;joesmoe;but didn't get back until it was laready over. 709969;1402315324;mircea_popescu;well im sure there's going to be another 709970;1402315341;joesmoe;i was thinking about heading down there about 6 months ago before all the china stuff blrew up 709971;1402315356;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4508 @ 0.00085305 = 3.8455 BTC [+] 709972;1402315488;mircea_popescu;wait how did china blow up ? 709973;1402316048;chetty;http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/08/pyrenees-brown-bear-pyros-sexual-castration-segregation 709974;1402316048;assbot;Alpha-male bear facing castration as sexual dominance threatens population | Environment | theguardian.com 709975;1402316248;mircea_popescu;haha hopefully the bears get food stamps next. 709976;1402316379;Mats_cd03;lol 709977;1402316454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00085265 = 11.4255 BTC [-] 709978;1402316573;mircea_popescu;http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/plot/ this is kinda interesting stuff 709979;1402316573;assbot;analysis of the strong set in the PGP web of trust 709980;1402316636;mircea_popescu;(i am in the strong set. are you ?) 709981;1402317125;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00085158 = 5.9611 BTC [-] 709982;1402317303;Mats_cd03;http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10135096/Kim-Dotcom-offers-5m-for-legal-help 709983;1402317304;assbot;Kim Dotcom offers $5m for legal help | Stuff.co.nz 709984;1402317361;mircea_popescu;but is it in bitcoin 709985;1402317441;mircea_popescu;"We are asking for information that proves unlawful or corrupt conduct by the US government, the New Zealand government, spy agencies, law enforcement and Hollywood" 709986;1402317447;mircea_popescu;but... i thought he already had it etc 709987;1402317626;pankkake;how do you tell if you're in the strong set? 709988;1402317718;mircea_popescu;"The strong set is the largest set of keys such that for any two keys in the set, there is a path from one to the other." 709989;1402317738;mircea_popescu;basically the wot here enforces strong setness by default 709990;1402317812;Mats_cd03;won't be in btc which is a shame 709991;1402317885;mircea_popescu;pankkake you're not in it. at least not with D9889CC0 709992;1402317891;Mats_cd03;7700BTC is a powerful incentive 709993;1402317909;pankkake;if you're on the website, then you're on the strong set 709994;1402317917;pankkake;I'm in it with other key(s) :) 709995;1402317944;mircea_popescu;neither is kako :D 709996;1402317951;mircea_popescu;pankkake prollybest link them then ? 709997;1402318161;mircea_popescu;neither is dub nor FabianB nor pigeons. but luke is http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/mk_path.cgi?FROM=2FB7B452&TO=21F4889F&PATHS=trust+paths 709998;1402318161;assbot;PGP trust paths : Mircea Popescu -> Luke Dashjr 709999;1402318322;pankkake;I'd rather not sign it, pankkake is an anonymous entity 710000;1402318336;mircea_popescu;oic. 710001;1402318344;pankkake;perhaps I could let other anonymouses I met IRL sign me, but how do they check I am myself?! 710002;1402318373;pankkake;(though my old key was signed by a person I've known for years) 710003;1402318388;pankkake;and it is in the strong set. I guess I could get in there by signing the old key in the other direction 710004;1402318654;mircea_popescu;check this shit out, otherthan luke and peter todd, nobody in my bitcoin wot is in the pgp strong set 710005;1402318665;mircea_popescu;yer all a buncher newbs! 710006;1402319319;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu what's a strong set? 710007;1402319386;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-06-2014#709988 710008;1402319387;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 710009;1402319637;los_pantalones;tyvm 710010;1402320713;jurov;!up mdev 710011;1402320725;jurov;!up dR3 710012;1402320732;jurov;!up daybyter 710013;1402320741;jurov;!up lnostdal 710014;1402320998;dR3;thx jurov 710015;1402321098;jurov;dR3 you got your half hour of glory, speak up :) 710016;1402321131;kakobrekla;argle bargle im not a newb im just anon. 710017;1402321283;jurov;today is IPO, tomorrow is glory 710018;1402321339;mircea_popescu;lol 710019;1402321369;mircea_popescu;jurov what ipo is that ? 710020;1402321399;jurov;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.LIMBS 710021;1402321400;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 710022;1402321409;mircea_popescu;lol 710023;1402321432;jurov;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591901.0 also 710024;1402321432;assbot;Now is Time, tomorrow IS glory = IPO people 710025;1402321460;mircea_popescu;lol k 710026;1402321499;mircea_popescu;lmao ok this is pretty great stuff 710027;1402321567;fluffypony;that was my favourite 710028;1402321571;fluffypony;I really enjoyed that 710029;1402321646;mircea_popescu;we still don;t know who these are ? 710030;1402321782;fluffypony;I already said I was proslimbs_inc 710031;1402321785;fluffypony;but nobody pays attention 710032;1402322066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02500111 = 0.25 BTC [+] 710033;1402322089;daybyter;any java coder here interested in trading code? 710034;1402322127;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0735299 = 0.2206 BTC [+] 710035;1402322249;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14308 @ 0.00085265 = 12.1997 BTC [+] 710036;1402322451;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla a likely story :D 710037;1402322458;mircea_popescu;fluffypony arighjt right 710038;1402322464;mircea_popescu;pretty funny pony :D 710039;1402322484;mircea_popescu; any java coder here interested in trading code? << whoa just like the old days! 710040;1402323710;nubbins`;hi 710041;1402323729;mike_c;hey nubbins`. how's life. 710042;1402323737;FabianB;mircea_popescu: the file is encrypted for you, can you reencrypt it with my key? 710043;1402323746;nubbins`;not bad, backing up & wiping my iphone so i can send it in for replacement 710044;1402323781;nubbins`;so which of you has been leaving ;;later tells for "nubbins" and "nubbins`i" 710045;1402323783;nubbins`;;;notes 710046;1402323783;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, benkay, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, davout, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, ryepdx, and ThickAsThieves. 710047;1402323796;pankkake;;;notes nubbins 710048;1402323796;gribble;Sent 3 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, and 9 minutes ago: chan clamors for -assets tshirt i recommend the disck surgery motive and Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 30 minutes ago: i have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction? 710049;1402323811;pankkake;;;notes nubbins`i 710050;1402323811;gribble;Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 30 minutes ago: have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction? 710051;1402323813;nubbins`;o look 710052;1402323824;nubbins`;bitcoinpete is having a hard time figuring out a few things 710053;1402323847;nubbins`;;;later tell bitcoinpete you're on your own with physical litecoins :( 710054;1402323847;gribble;The operation succeeded. 710055;1402323896;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02033199 = 0.2033 BTC [+] 710056;1402323957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02021315 = 0.2021 BTC [-] 710057;1402323981;mike_c;;;seen thickasthieves 710058;1402323981;gribble;thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 15 hours, 8 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: raccoons are like idiot cats 710059;1402323992;mike_c;with rabies 710060;1402324030;nubbins`;and sensitive hands 710061;1402324522;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/09/stranger-in-a-strange-land/ 710062;1402324533;fluffypony;xmj: around? 710063;1402324689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.04405928 = 1.2777 BTC [-] 710064;1402325421;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38382 @ 0.00085314 = 32.7452 BTC [+] {2} 710065;1402325726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00085362 = 7.1277 BTC [+] {2} 710066;1402326442;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-tech-sp30-yukon-specifications-leaked-bitcoin-mining-taken-next-evolution/ 710067;1402326824;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00085474 = 25.5995 BTC [+] 710068;1402327085;dignork;there is some nonsense in spoondoolies article, for example BeagleBoneBlack 710069;1402327139;pankkake;why? 710070;1402327169;dignork;it doesn't have BB, there is an ARM chip embedded on the main board 710071;1402327175;thestringpuller;fluffypony: around? 710072;1402327189;dignork;also it's funny to call a "leak" something that is published on their site in specs :) 710073;1402327189;fluffypony;well I'm trying to lose weight, but I suppose you could call me a round 710074;1402327352;Apocalyptic; also it's funny to call a "leak" something that is published on their site in specs :) // gotta attract the audience 710075;1402327446;dignork;Apocalyptic: yep, probably it's a company PR anyway, just executed by someone clueless 710076;1402328105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07200201 = 0.36 BTC [-] 710077;1402328166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27760 @ 0.00085129 = 23.6318 BTC [-] {2} 710078;1402328288;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 56 @ 0.002 = 0.112 BTC {3} 710079;1402328593;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 150 @ 0.002 = 0.3 BTC 710080;1402328666;benkay;dunno jurov, every time i go to pull up coinbr...prostitutes. 710081;1402328711;dignork;so is the http://www.coindesk.com/details-spondoolies-tech-new-bitcoin-mining-asic-leaked-online/ claiming a leak of ASIC specs - hint: they where published on bitcointalk in april 710082;1402328712;assbot;Details of New Spondoolies-Tech Bitcoin Mining ASIC Leaked Online 710083;1402328761;jurov;benkay you tend to think the siren is a whore? 710084;1402328789;benkay;no man i swear there's something weird in the dns 710085;1402328794;benkay;all i get is whores 710086;1402328804;benkay;not bitcoins 710087;1402328808;benkay;it's a mystery 710088;1402328811;jurov;O.o 710089;1402328837;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27887 @ 0.00084992 = 23.7017 BTC [-] {2} 710090;1402328890;benkay;http://goo.gl/rQBclV 710091;1402328891;assbot;Madonna - Like a Prayer [Official Music Video] - YouTube 710092;1402328980;dignork;benkay: for me it resolves to 54.247.173.21, no whores, only siren. what am i doing wrong? 710093;1402329013;benkay;i'm just messing with you, jurov. i've never actually succeeded in piping hookers over the internet. 710094;1402329022;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07200031 = 0.216 BTC [-] 710095;1402329196;jurov;i succeeded making my boss to 710096;1402329204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-] 710097;1402329205;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00085434 = 31.0125 BTC [+] {3} 710098;1402329211;jurov;i was explaining to him whatvV "wiki" is 710099;1402329233;jurov;he typed "viki" into google and automatically clicked first result 710100;1402329261;jurov;he got desktop changed into cunts and bookmarks and everything 710101;1402329264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00084972 = 9.007 BTC [-] 710102;1402329272;mike_c;"i'm feeling lucky" ftw 710103;1402329319;benkay;skimpy logs. mike_c i'm taking a page out of your book and reading berkshire letters over coffee... 710104;1402329370;benkay;3000 words, once per year. that's a pace i could sustain... 710105;1402329398;mike_c;1965 - 76 aren't online, but the ebook is only $3. 710106;1402329411;mike_c;somebody prolly has them posted somewhere if you look around. 710107;1402329423;mike_c;all are worthwhile reading. 710108;1402329562;benkay;ebook stretches back to 1965? 710109;1402329566;mike_c;yeah 710110;1402329587;mike_c;interesting because the early years are him digging his way out of his first mistakes (buying a textile company) 710111;1402329630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.87444432 BTC to 8`764 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 710112;1402329694;kakobrekla;thats why its not on printed editions. 710113;1402329708;mike_c;hehe. he's actually pretty good about beating himself up. 710114;1402329725;mike_c;which is easier when you are the controlling shareholder. 710115;1402329796;benkay;http://www.rbcpa.com/web_letters/web_letters_pre_berkshireturnedoff.html 710116;1402329797;assbot;Warren Buffett Letters to Partners 1959 - 1969 710117;1402329868;mike_c;interesting. those aren't the B/H letters, but those look good too. 710118;1402329891;benkay;"There are undoubtedly more mercurially-tempered people in the stock market now than for a good many years, and the duration of their stay will be limited to how long they think profits can be made quickly and effortlessly." 710119;1402329918;benkay;so those are the 'buffet partnership letters' 710120;1402329926;benkay;and not the 'berkshire hathaway letters'? 710121;1402329958;benkay;bah it pains me to give amazon money 710122;1402329967;benkay;i hate these four-hour-fuckers 710123;1402330000;mike_c;yes. buffet partnership, ltd bought B/H in 65 710124;1402330005;benkay;build a real company 710125;1402330033;benkay;i'm calling it a business expense. the business buys all sorts of stupid fiat scams all the time. 710126;1402330054;benkay;hey mike you do dev work in the states - have you ever gone in for errors and omissions insurance? 710127;1402330081;benkay;mike_c: 710128;1402330089;mike_c;i don't do contract work. i've got some other insurance covering me, D&O or something 710129;1402330362;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37445 @ 0.00084971 = 31.8174 BTC [-] {2} 710130;1402330696;thestringpuller;!MPIF 710131;1402330700;thestringpuller;!mpif 710132;1402330701;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021703 BTC (Total: 434.06 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 710133;1402330856;benkay;;;calc 17/1.3 710134;1402330856;gribble;13.0769230769 710135;1402330973;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00084971 = 8.0298 BTC [-] 710136;1402331024;thestringpuller;!jd mpif 710137;1402331024;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.47920326 BTC; -0.03277293 BTC (-0.0192%) since last check 8h 41m 3s ago. 710138;1402331049;nubbins`;dat loss 710139;1402331259;pankkake;assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PROV] 56 @ 0.002 = 0.112 BTC {3} ← this tells everything. 3 transactions for 0.1 BTC 710140;1402331476;pankkake;.foundation is a newly approved TLD 710141;1402331484;pankkake;bitcoin.foundation already taken :( 710142;1402331521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07200031 = 0.288 BTC [-] 710143;1402331526;mike_c;grab altcoin.foundation. it'll be priceless. 710144;1402331591;nubbins`;mario kart 8 is too easy :( 710145;1402331601;pankkake;not priceless, it costs ~20€ :p not counting the whois protections if available 710146;1402331627;fluffypony;lol 710147;1402331649;fluffypony;pankkake: whilst you're checking, is dogecoin.foundation available? 710148;1402331666;fluffypony;*cue evil laugh* 710149;1402331675;pankkake;taken :( 710150;1402331691;pankkake;as well as litecoin.foundation. fuckers 710151;1402331704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.22299676 = 2.23 BTC [-] {8} 710152;1402331718;fluffypony;dammit 710153;1402331888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [-] 710154;1402332070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00230059 = 0.3451 BTC [-] {2} 710155;1402332267;jurov;try bitcoin.surgery 710156;1402332620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0734995 = 0.735 BTC [+] 710157;1402332704;nubbins`;jurov lel 710158;1402333778;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00085484 = 4.2742 BTC [+] 710159;1402333987;Mats_cd03;how do you recover data from an SSD with a failed microcontroller 710160;1402334205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.02383066 = 0.286 BTC [-] {2} 710161;1402334206;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00085096 = 29.5283 BTC [-] {2} 710162;1402334328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21130 @ 0.00085484 = 18.0628 BTC [+] 710163;1402334370;fluffypony;Mats_cd03: you need someone that can do this with a replacement microcontroller - http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html 710164;1402334371;assbot;ELM - Extreme Wiring on the Prototyping Board 710165;1402334434;Mats_cd03;what am i looking at 710166;1402334510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2154 BTC [-] 710167;1402334532;fluffypony;soldering 710168;1402334716;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/succeed-bitcoin-startup/ please rename coindesk to facedesk 710169;1402334716;assbot;How to Succeed With Your Bitcoin Startup 710170;1402334819;fluffypony;pankkake: have you seen the comment? 710171;1402334829;fluffypony;"Don't sell your soul to VC if you don't have to. Try community funding first. 710172;1402334829;fluffypony;I'm sure people would buy shares like crazy if you issue them as colored coins (if the idea is good)." 710173;1402334833;fluffypony;l.o.l. 710174;1402334850;pankkake;my javascript blocking rules don't show comments there 710175;1402334876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 81 @ 0.00198856 = 0.1611 BTC [+] {4} 710176;1402334877;pankkake;"if the idea is good" oh god :( 710177;1402334947;benkay;new work shipped. http://survantjames.com/ , click "Tozny" 710178;1402334948;assbot;Survant James - Design & Engineering 710179;1402335014;benkay;mircea_popescu doesn't get to see it without js sorry boss 710180;1402335042;pankkake;"our works" works, but not clicking on tozny. I don't see why that couldn't be possible 710181;1402335167;fluffypony;benkay: nice, looks pretty 710182;1402335295;mike_c;clicking tozny worked for me 710183;1402335299;benkay;mike_c: where is this berkshire ebook? 710184;1402335325;mike_c;http://www.amazon.com/Berkshire-Hathaway-Letters-Shareholders-Buffett/dp/1595910778 710185;1402335326;assbot;Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders, 2012: Warren Buffett, Max Olson: 9781595910776: Amazon.com: Books 710186;1402335375;pankkake;I have an un-drmed azw3 for the interested. can be easily converted to epub 710187;1402335379;benkay;pankkake: it pops a modal. maybe one of the designers knows how to make it happen without js, but that's like 0.001% of potential clients. 710188;1402335397;benkay;dorp i didn't see the "kindle 3 dollars" button 710189;1402335400;mike_c;it moves around a lot when i click the client boxes 710190;1402335415;benkay;pankkake: i'm interested. 710191;1402335422;mike_c;why jerk up the 'our work' header? 710192;1402335426;Mats_cd03;what makes you qualified to audit cryptography 710193;1402335426;pankkake;if you buy an ebook on amazon, you hate your freedoms :) 710194;1402335446;mike_c;$3 for an ebook sounds like the right price to me. 710195;1402335463;mike_c;paying $20 for an ebook means you hate freedom (and children) 710196;1402335484;fluffypony;and puppies 710197;1402335504;pankkake;a format that works only with amazon's reader and comes with drm, that's an horrible combo 710198;1402335540;pankkake;http://wikisend.com/download/960424/ first time I use the thing, tell me if it doesn't work 710199;1402335541;assbot;Wikisend: free file sharing service 710200;1402335543;mike_c;idk, i'm not in the 'everything should be free' camp. 710201;1402335561;fluffypony;makes two of us 710202;1402335563;pankkake;I buy stuff I can own 710203;1402335569;benkay;Mats_cd03: we found the stuff as what was wrong and unfucked it. 710204;1402335583;fluffypony;xmj xmj xmj xmj xmj xmj xmj 710205;1402335590;*;fluffypony kicks xmj in the balls 710206;1402335612;mike_c;you can't own trilema pages. gotta rent them. 710207;1402335643;pankkake;I can save them if I want to, and it's not trying to forbid it 710208;1402335654;mike_c;that is true. 710209;1402335724;nubbins`;y'know, i think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of the concept of an "idea" 710210;1402335730;pankkake;we need the bandcamp of ebooks: no account needed, pay and get un-drmed ebook in the format of your choice 710211;1402335735;nubbins`;well, maybe soured isn't the word 710212;1402335740;nubbins`;but i look at it a different way now 710213;1402335745;benkay;the value of the letters has already been delivered in berkshire stock appreciation 710214;1402335748;nubbins`;people say 710215;1402335754;nubbins`;"i had an idea the other day" 710216;1402335760;benkay;this ebook thing is a vehicle for this startupper to make money on others work 710217;1402335761;nubbins`;and i'm automatically uninterested 710218;1402335778;benkay;i had an idea: buy a datacenter in argentina. 710219;1402335793;pankkake;the letters are available for free, this is just a nicer packaging 710220;1402335802;nubbins`;they have data there? 710221;1402335831;nubbins`;also: they used an actual live jazz band for the music in mario kart 8 710222;1402335982;benkay;thanks pankkake seems good but haven't actually opened it yet 710223;1402336279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.215 BTC [-] 710224;1402336767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 105 @ 0.002 = 0.21 BTC 710225;1402337271;mircea_popescu;FabianB on it 710226;1402337331;dignork;mircea_popescu: not a working code yet, but might be a fancy extension to multibet: https://github.com/orisi/orisi/ 710227;1402337332;assbot;orisi/orisi GitHub 710228;1402337353;mircea_popescu;dignork gotta take that up with kakobrekla 710229;1402337357;mircea_popescu;im onlyhere for the cookies 710230;1402337421;dignork;*bitbet, no idea what multibet is 710231;1402337438;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07200051 = 0.72 BTC [-] 710232;1402337794;mike_c;dignork: what is it? 710233;1402337800;dignork;o dog, i know why the term looked familiar, mircea_popescu - forum cookies: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/xcp-ipo-announcement-dunnecapital-ltd-uk-bitcoin-exchange-and-a-casino.304299/ 710234;1402337800;assbot;[XCP] IPO announcement. DunneCapital LTD - UK bitcoin exchange and a casino | Bitcointa.lk 710235;1402337802;mircea_popescu;jurov: he typed "viki" << i typed viki and nothing happened 710236;1402337803;mircea_popescu;SCAM 710237;1402337806;dignork;mike_c: the git thing? 710238;1402337809;mike_c;yeah 710239;1402337844;dignork;it's partial implementation of "distributed oracle" 710240;1402337848;jurov;mircea_popescu: that was 7 or so years ago, google worked as advertised then 710241;1402337862;mircea_popescu;hehehe 710242;1402337881;mircea_popescu;anyway, the dunne thing, what about it dignork ? guy was briefly here about that time 710243;1402337882;dignork;so you have oracle bot that can be hacked/bribed w.e, but if you have multiple, it's assumed to be harder to do 710244;1402337906;dignork;dunne is a dev of multibet 710245;1402337921;mircea_popescu;"Second set of drafts coming through tomorrow. Seen a little preview, already looking very sharp. After that, we refine and then program. Looking good for the one month ETA" 710246;1402337927;mircea_popescu;he's also stuck in the wrong paradigm. 710247;1402337933;mircea_popescu;bitcoin isn't web"dev". 710248;1402338003;mircea_popescu;pankkake: as well as litecoin.foundation. fuckers << dude who the fuck cares. 710249;1402338010;dignork;mircea_popescu: they open sourced their current code in git, assuming free security reviews, stopped watchig after that 710250;1402338020;mircea_popescu;a decade back they introduced .ro, ie, for romania. i laughed at them then, i'm still laughi8ng at them 710251;1402338028;mircea_popescu;"o no but you must get a romania tld". why ? 710252;1402338031;mike_c;dignork: but then you trusting the crowd of oracles to make the right decision. see rota for examples of that not working so well. 710253;1402338087;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: l.o.l. << don't do something merely stupid. do something spectacularly stupid instead!!! and don't even mention the actually sane alternative, that's gonna hurt your feelings so it doesn't exist. 710254;1402338109;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22119 @ 0.00085487 = 18.9089 BTC [+] {2} 710255;1402338109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0236052 = 0.2361 BTC [-] 710256;1402338158;dignork;mike_c: i think it's possible to make a multisig fund, where each oracle op drops some funds, these funds are deal insurance, but I didn't think it through completely 710257;1402338196;dignork;say they'll be redemed in case of detacted fraud 710258;1402338202;mike_c;it probably has good uses, but i wouldn't like bitbets decided by a vote. 710259;1402338203;dignork;*detected 710260;1402338214;mike_c;i'm not worried about fraud, more like bad decisions. 710261;1402338227;mircea_popescu;mike_c: idk, i'm not in the 'everything should be free' camp. << but the camp is "nothing should be amazon" 710262;1402338266;pankkake;I like Amazon for delivering physical items, they do it very well 710263;1402338286;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: y'know, i think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of the concept of an "idea" << actual business experience in the company of actual business people has soured you on infantile bullcrap. neither bitcoin nor ideas particularly involved. 710264;1402338295;punkman;I think if bitbet provided an oracle service that might be handy for building things on, but I'm not about to trust some random dude's oracle 710265;1402338301;mircea_popescu;pankkake yeah. "nothing virtual shjould be amazon" 710266;1402338312;dignork;mike_c: maybe only subset of bets, which can be automatically verified, these bets are submitted without review, less work for bitbet op, more monies for turnover 710267;1402338318;mircea_popescu;punkman oracle service cost is unbound is the problem. 710268;1402338356;punkman;mircea_popescu: why? 710269;1402338357;pankkake;what kind of bets can be automatically verified? do you trust the source not to fuck up? 710270;1402338376;pankkake;;;ticker --avg 710271;1402338377;gribble;0 710272;1402338379;pankkake;just an example 710273;1402338392;mircea_popescu;why is something not something else you ask me ? 710274;1402338393;punkman;in fact bitbet already provides an oracle service for free 710275;1402338395;mircea_popescu;because it isn't ? 710276;1402338406;mircea_popescu;maybe we don't mean the same thing by oracle then 710277;1402338445;mircea_popescu;how does your definition go ? 710278;1402338475;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 58 @ 0.002 = 0.116 BTC 710279;1402338494;dignork;pankkake: the oracle can work like : yes/no/idunnohumanplease 710280;1402338500;punkman;not the canonical one, more in the sense of these blockchain oracle constructions 710281;1402338508;mircea_popescu;ah 710282;1402338536;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0250013 = 0.125 BTC [+] 710283;1402338548;punkman;anyway why not charge a fee to sign transactions when X bet resolves 710284;1402338576;mircea_popescu;um 710285;1402338580;punkman;if there's interest, you can also provide answers to things that aren't worth betting on 710286;1402338580;mircea_popescu;what's that help ? 710287;1402338602;mircea_popescu;that's ok, question that aren';t worth betting on aren't worth answering. 710288;1402338620;mircea_popescu;and anyone can trivially be charged a fee for finding out when x bet resolves : he sends a bet to a virgin address 710289;1402338628;mircea_popescu;when btc makes it to that address the bet resolved. 710290;1402339017;punkman;;;later tell mircea_popescu a silly example, me and dignork both make a 1btc transaction to each other, but we can only spend them after the bitbet oracle signs the transaction 710291;1402339017;gribble;The operation succeeded. 710292;1402339150;punkman;this is not a new idea, this was an early implementation https://earlytemple.com:8181/ 710293;1402339150;assbot;Early Temple 710294;1402339182;punkman;what I'm describing is more like escrow than oracle I guess 710295;1402339190;mircea_popescu;punkman maybe if you explained the usecase ? 710296;1402339207;punkman;I did a later tell 710297;1402339244;mircea_popescu;i got it. that's not really a usecase th 710298;1402339245;mircea_popescu;o 710299;1402339300;Namworld;So where was I in my half-asleep/half-daydreaming hypothetical nonsense scenarios? 710300;1402339573;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 462 @ 0.00206048 = 0.9519 BTC [+] 710301;1402339587;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/us/couple-in-las-vegas-killings-embraced-anti-government-ideology.html 710302;1402339590;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 710303;1402339624;fluffypony;even assbot is paywall'd 710304;1402339695;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 98 @ 0.002 = 0.196 BTC 710305;1402339760;Namworld;Hmm, another Havelock IPO... 710306;1402339760;benkay;"disliking the usg makes you a bad person" 710307;1402339805;Namworld;"Our 28nm ASIC design architecture dubbed the “Creator” to be used at the foundry level allows for simultaneous production of the 1TH “Creator 1” Bitcoin ASIC, 256GH “Creator 2” Bitcoin ASIC and the 4MH “Creator 3” SCRYPT ASIC from the same wafer batch. This unique ability, and the lower costs associated with the FDSOI process, lends Provenance ASIC a competitive advantage 710308;1402339805;Namworld;with regards to $/GH/W and unparalleled ASIC diversification with essentially three different ASIC products available from one production batch." 710309;1402339817;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7491 @ 0.00085491 = 6.4041 BTC [+] 710310;1402339869;Namworld;Anyone that knows about the ASIC design process, how non-sensical is that statement? 710311;1402340000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.025001 = 0.375 BTC [-] 710312;1402340122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07200021 = 0.216 BTC [-] 710313;1402340134;asciilifeform;Namworld: not entirely nonsensical. see the story of the intel 486 dx - and many subsequent chips 710314;1402340280;Namworld;Eh 710315;1402340366;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00085517 = 37.1144 BTC [+] {2} 710316;1402340371;mircea_popescu;Namworld not bad, on paper. 710317;1402340406;thestringpuller;In bitcoin: "A scam until proven innocent by a court of #bitcoin-assets" 710318;1402340407;mircea_popescu;course so far that's correlated moreover negatively over the history of bitcoin miner manufacturers 710319;1402340489;Namworld;So sale pitches are improving in quality. 710320;1402340511;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, it's unclear to me what exact benefit would this be. if you can make 1 th asics, you can sell 1 th asics. 710321;1402340517;mircea_popescu;if you can make 1/4 th, you can idem sell those. 710322;1402340537;mircea_popescu;the advantage of making both "in the same batch" is quite unclear, not like you'd be stuck with batches of like, 3 full and 7 1/4s 710323;1402340558;mircea_popescu;as large as your batch can conceivably be, you'll sell it, either full or quarter. 710324;1402340564;mircea_popescu;!up hdbuck 710325;1402340584;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: advantage of making both in same batch -> you do it whether you want to or not. process yield. 710326;1402340602;mircea_popescu;at any rate, silicon on insulator, and especially on 28nm, is ANYTHING but low cost. 710327;1402340610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.072998 = 0.219 BTC [+] 710328;1402340614;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that too. 710329;1402340658;mircea_popescu;Namworld anyway, ask them if they use saphire or not. the answer will be informative. 710330;1402340965;Namworld;Eheheh, I was looking at that part on wikipedia, reading up on FDSOI. Wondering what's the point of it if it's an expensive process. 710331;1402341033;hdbuck;mircea_popescu hello MP, thx for the voice up, i came here with the hope you could help me apprehend that blockchain size issue (& considering it is an issue). been reading tons of articles about that and people talks about 'industrial' supernodes and/or 'restructuring' Bitcoin.. cant make up my mind whether thats good or bad tho. any inputs? :) 710332;1402341034;Namworld;Seems it has uses in compact electronics. For Bitcoin mining, you don't need compact performance, space is cheap. 710333;1402341078;Namworld;Ah, I see the part about Sapphire. The answer would be informative indeed. 710334;1402341139;benkay;hdbuck: if you can't afford the space to store the blockchain, what are you doing in btc anyways? 710335;1402341154;benkay;hdbuck: there's also SPV, but I'm not entirely certain how that actually works. 710336;1402341159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07176763 = 0.933 BTC [-] {2} 710337;1402341199;hdbuck;benkay its not my personnal storing that i am concerned with. i am just wondering if this issue wont harm bitcoin on the long run. 710338;1402341206;Namworld;The blockchain ain't all that big yet... 710339;1402341371;hdbuck;saw pretty pessimistic articles about that matter regarding the long run of Bitcoin. plus those core devs seem not to have a clue about what's going to happen - so i figured.. you guys should know better! ^^ 710340;1402341375;diametric;I have to admit, its annoying getting a fresh copy of the blockchain in a new client, even though I have the space, and I have 75Mbit internet, it still takes over 2 days. 710341;1402341401;benkay;hdbuck: how can you hurt bitcoin? 710342;1402341403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47100 @ 0.00085606 = 40.3204 BTC [+] {2} 710343;1402341404;diametric;though I've never tried any of the bootstrap methods 710344;1402341416;benkay;it simply exists. 710345;1402341436;benkay;blockchain monotonically increases in size. this is a fact of reality. 710346;1402341480;Namworld;Well assuming storage capacity keeps increasing at current rate, and that population growth is doubling much less often than computing capacity... 710347;1402341747;hdbuck;benkay : well, some argue that the more the blochain size increase, the less people would actually download it to use bitcoins. other also argue that it would give more power to supernodes, centralising bitcoin, which was something that bitcoin was suppose to oppose. or is it just the NSA and co that will run Bitcoin once it get too big? ^^ 710348;1402341766;Namworld;It might be a problem for a short while. Assuming we reach saturation of usage, it might grow almost linearly, at least compared to storage capacity growth. Even if population growth and associated usage is exponential, the exponent is much lower than storage growth. 710349;1402341828;benkay; benkay : well, some argue that the more the blochain size increase, the less people would actually download it to use bitcoins // you're conflating "fewer people using btc" with "bad for btc". this has yet to be established. 710350;1402341839;Namworld;I'm somewhat expecting the blockchain size to eventually become negligible. 710351;1402341920;Namworld;The thing is current adoption rate is increasing much faster than storage capacity, so it's catching up and becoming large in today's standards. 710352;1402342033;hdbuck;benkay: ah i know you guys think of it as gold 2.0 which is not meant for the average joe to come around with but i am just not sure how this will all play out. :/ 710353;1402342052;benkay;hdbuck: are you ignoring the SPV thing? 710354;1402342061;benkay;you don't need a blockchain to accept/send btc. 710355;1402342072;benkay;;;gettrust hdbuck 710356;1402342073;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user hdbuck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=hdbuck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hdbuck | Rated since: never 710357;1402342074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00085655 = 14.39 BTC [+] {2} 710358;1402342087;Namworld;Blockchain is 18GB. It was 8 last year. We currently have not too expensive disk 4000GB hard disks. 710359;1402342136;benkay;i imagine you're just a random joe not in the web of trust, hdbuck ? 710360;1402342144;Namworld;We will probably reach usage saturation and blockchain will grow too slowly compared to storage doubling in capacity much before blockchain doesn't fit in a single recent consumer grade drive. 710361;1402342228;benkay;some day you'll need an entire DC for the blockchain. what of it? 710362;1402342240;Namworld;Yeah blockchain is big. But storage capacity and computing power is increasing very rapidely and exponentially. Much faster the the amount of worldwide transactions. 710363;1402342251;Namworld;than the* 710364;1402342284;Namworld;benkay, you would eventually need an entire DC assuming computer components stopped improving every year. 710365;1402342312;BingoBoingo;benkay: Nah, storage capacities are growing too fast and have too much of a head start. It will probably fit on a single hard drive for at least another decade. It's just... Parsing the block chain as a full node will probably require more thoroughput than a single drive offers. 710366;1402342378;hdbuck;benkay: ahah yes probably. im some humble average joe not very used to that WOT thing sry.. trying to learn tho ^^ 710367;1402342408;asciilifeform;wonder if anyone else has toyed with the idea of hardware purpose-built to store blockchain. think ssd, but write-only (antifuse! etc) 710368;1402342423;benkay;!up hdbuck 710369;1402342451;benkay;hdbuck: if you're serious about wanting to learn, start with gpg. get into the wot, get a rating, lurk or derp in here as you see fit. 710370;1402342467;asciilifeform;standardize calendar sync. and snippet length - so if you own one, you will always know if it works - compare to another one for same time period 710371;1402342471;benkay;no crime in being wrong, i do it all the time. there's plenty of larnin' to go around. 710372;1402342471;Namworld;I expect it to go like this -> adoption keeps going up fast, blockchain grows faster and faster, people get worried, we reach saturation of usage, blockchain growth starts looking linear, storage capacity keeps doubling every few years, people stop worrying. 710373;1402342490;Mats_cd03;seems like this is a solved problem with SPV 710374;1402342512;benkay;i'm highlighting that in a worst case scenario it's not a problem and also as Mats_cd03 and i have and keep pointing out - not a problem to begin with even. 710375;1402342517;Namworld;Blockchain keeps fitting on a single drive as long as it's regularly upgraded to a recent one and start looking smaller and smaller. 710376;1402342522;benkay;('cause SPV). 710377;1402342527;asciilifeform;storing bits that never need to flip again ought to be technologically simpler - on basic physical level - than the normal kind. 710378;1402342533;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I've put some though into it. 710379;1402342553;hdbuck;benkay: alright, thanks man - i'll check MP's guide. :) 710380;1402342601;benkay;failing that, you can use a btc addr as well. 710381;1402342608;asciilifeform;one basic function in such a gadget is that it ought to be able to compare itself, via direct electrical wiring, to another one purporting to be identical. 710382;1402342663;Mats_cd03;it seems like the world desperately needs a well documented SPV client 710383;1402342684;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49450 @ 0.00085709 = 42.3831 BTC [+] {3} 710384;1402342717;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Good place to start would be forking an older version of Multibit and BitcoinJ watching out for slop 710385;1402342783;Mats_cd03;i like where the project bit-c is right now 710386;1402342867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0184074 = 0.1289 BTC [-] 710387;1402343170;Namworld;What's bit-c? 710388;1402343179;BingoBoingo;http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2014/06/09/the-boring-bitcoin-report-june-9/ Ms Boring forgot to make the distinction between the two Erik ventures 710389;1402343180;assbot;The Boring Bitcoin Report: June 9 - Forbes 710390;1402343242;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Bit-c looks like it is headed somewhere nice, but it's useful to compare how all of these things are approaching the SPV problem 710391;1402343501;benkay;;;later tell bitcoingirl honey you gotta do better than that. voorhees got in trouble for feedzebirds and not satoshidice - mostly 'cause DICE was listed on the SRO MPEx. 710392;1402343501;gribble;The operation succeeded. 710393;1402343616;Namworld;If he got in trouble for dice, the settlement would have been much larger. 710394;1402343622;BingoBoingo;^ 710395;1402343660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30421 @ 0.00085494 = 26.0081 BTC [-] 710396;1402343738;Mats_cd03;i'm slowly adding features to it 710397;1402343757;Mats_cd03;will commit when ready 710398;1402343827;Mats_cd03;er, i guess its push instead of commit 710399;1402344133;benkay;no get it right you issue a "pull request" 710400;1402344136;benkay;sheesh 710401;1402344145;benkay;and it's not git it's gitHUB 710402;1402344173;thestringpuller;WHOA WHOA WHOA 710403;1402344173;jurov;benkay i pointed her to bingo§s article, and later told that explicitly, looks like she could not be helped 710404;1402344176;thestringpuller;mah nigga 710405;1402344180;thestringpuller;smickles !!!!!!!! 710406;1402344192;smickles;ME!!!!!!! 710407;1402344226;thestringpuller;the little one must be walking by now 710408;1402344235;smickles;indeed 710409;1402344239;thestringpuller;haha. my how time flies 710410;1402344240;smickles;and climbing 710411;1402344277;smickles;I have taken over the bitcoin corp in eve 710412;1402344286;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0PXEZYD.txt ) 710413;1402344286;benkay;!b 1 710414;1402344290;thestringpuller;XD 710415;1402344356;smickles;lol, what did that do benkay ? 710416;1402344367;benkay;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com 710417;1402344367;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 710418;1402344408;smickles;so my statement about 1Bitcoin is noteworthy :) 710419;1402344440;TomServo;Was this a hostile takeover? :D 710420;1402344451;jurov;you have the time for eve??? 710421;1402344461;smickles;It was not so fun as a hostile takeover 710422;1402344496;Mats_cd03;have you pillaged all of the space ships and raped all of the women 710423;1402344502;smickles;I have found time for the less attention intensive aspects of the game 710424;1402344555;smickles;there isn't really a woman raping game mechanic 710425;1402344591;smickles;I could buy exotic dancers or prostitutes and jetison them into space. 710426;1402344596;benkay;http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=146 << repent, sinner! 710427;1402344596;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 710428;1402344598;smickles;that's about as close as it gets 710429;1402344642;Namworld;@smickles hahaha 710430;1402344746;benkay;!up ninjashogun 710431;1402344749;benkay;look who i found 710432;1402344756;benkay;or found me, i guess 710433;1402344791;BingoBoingo;Oh noes!!! 710434;1402344819;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2349997 BTC [+] 710435;1402344941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 27 @ 0.02599959 = 0.702 BTC [+] {2} 710436;1402345002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31028 @ 0.00085628 = 26.5687 BTC [+] {3} 710437;1402345002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02599989 = 0.26 BTC [+] 710438;1402345063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.072998 = 0.511 BTC [+] 710439;1402345114;bitstein;The appcoin fraudsters attempt to defend themselves: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-value-of-app-coins 710440;1402345115;assbot;The Value of App Coins | Lets Talk Bitcoin 710441;1402345118;fluffypony;http://twitchy.com/2014/06/09/rape-culture-wins-feminist-freakout-after-miss-nevada-dares-suggest-self-defense-training-for-women/ 710442;1402345119;assbot;‘Rape culture wins’: Feminist freakout after Miss Nevada dares suggest self defense training for women | Twitchy 710443;1402345185;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2349997 = 0.705 BTC [+] 710444;1402345186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.072998 = 0.511 BTC [+] 710445;1402345296;smickles;i don't think i've knowingly encountered a society of rapists 710446;1402345466;ThickAsThieves;oh, but those times you weren't aware! 710447;1402345606;princessnell;feminists have again come full circle: attacking a beauty queen for insuffiently supporting patriarchy 710448;1402345647;ThickAsThieves;where does one learn to rape? 710449;1402345671;ThickAsThieves;because they really need to stop teaching it 710450;1402345706;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: agreed 710451;1402345714;fluffypony;they should shut down Rape Schools across the country 710452;1402345723;fluffypony;and fire those Rape Teachers 710453;1402345734;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 220 @ 0.002 = 0.44 BTC 710454;1402345790;dub;princessnell: wat 710455;1402345815;BingoBoingo;%book 710456;1402345817;atcbot;40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142 710457;1402345845;princessnell;dub saying "men are responsible for women's safety" is a patriarchal notion 710458;1402345928;dub;so one half of our sepcies should require additional training to protect its ass from the other half? 710459;1402345946;princessnell;are you asking me my opinion? 710460;1402345990;dub;no need 710461;1402346043;dub;women dont need to rely on men not to be rapists! 710462;1402346063;mircea_popescu;dude 32 gb ram is pretty cool 710463;1402346093;mircea_popescu;hdbuck what you mean specifically ? 710464;1402346096;mircea_popescu;!up hdbuck 710465;1402346101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50474 @ 0.00085762 = 43.2875 BTC [+] 710466;1402346139;mircea_popescu;how goes nellie ? 710467;1402346186;princessnell;good! just finished an article for tomorrow. how are you? still on your rainbow tour? 710468;1402346202;mircea_popescu;diametric: I have to admit, its annoying getting a fresh copy of the blockchain in a new client, even though I have the space, and I have 75Mbit internet, it still takes over 2 days. << i keep a master copy like the holy fucking scriptures. which is what it is anyway 710469;1402346216;mircea_popescu;princessnell nah, settled down. 710470;1402346253;diametric;mircea_popescu: thats probably a good idea to start doing. perhaps keep it on a usb stick on my keys or something, gets updated when i plug it in. 710471;1402346297;mircea_popescu;hdbuck: benkay : well, some argue that the more the blochain size increase, the less people would actually download it to use bitcoins. other also argue that it would give more power to supernodes, centralising bitcoin, which was something that bitcoin was suppose to oppose. >> bitcoin was never intended for "people" in the sense of reddit derps, and bitcoin was never intended to oppose centralism. it was intended to 710472;1402346298;mircea_popescu;oppose the ~wrong~ sort of centralism, ie, centralism in the hands of the more or less representative, more or less elected representatives of "people" as in, reddit derps. 710473;1402346314;mircea_popescu;instead, bitcoin favours centralism in the hands of unelected and unaccountable, unrepresentative lords. 710474;1402346324;hdbuck;mircea_popescu hey man, hum its just i was kinda concerned with supernodes and the people that will run them once the BC's size would be too big for the average person to handle. 710475;1402346329;mircea_popescu;as the world and everything else was meant to work in the first place. 710476;1402346356;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: one day, people will encode checkpoint hashes of blockchain as human poetry. 710477;1402346370;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform likely. 710478;1402346428;bitstein;"Centralization" is a vapid term without a sound theory of monopoly and competition. 710479;1402346534;princessnell;mircea_popescu right vs wrong centralism is what my article tomorrow is about. but as you know i am a gentle touch. 710480;1402346538;hdbuck;mircea_popescu i get your point, but i aint seing Bitcoin being rightfully centralised ATM. 710481;1402346566;princessnell;hbduck look around! 710482;1402346588;mircea_popescu;princessnell we can't all bne assholes 710483;1402346611;mircea_popescu;hdbuck well what makes you think you have any sort of a vantage point ? 710484;1402346649;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.02500104 = 0.575 BTC [-] {3} 710485;1402346669;mircea_popescu;Namworld says " Assuming we reach saturation of usage", I read " Assuming we reach saturation of usagi" and i'm all like "wtf is he on about, i'm all saturated" 710486;1402346708;hdbuck;mircea_popescu hum i dont, just wondering here and there.. looking for answers :) 710487;1402346721;mircea_popescu;benkay: you don't need a blockchain to accept/send btc. << not to mention the coinbr thing. he really doesn't need the blockchain at all. 710488;1402346738;mircea_popescu;hdbuck dun take it too personally. 710489;1402346771;Namworld;What the hell? That's one hell of a misread. 710490;1402346787;mircea_popescu;diametric> mircea_popescu: thats probably a good idea to start doing. perhaps keep it on a usb stick on my keys or something, gets updated when i plug it in. << or on a 4 redundant raid array, under concrete. 710491;1402346801;mircea_popescu;just one letter, nimworld :D 710492;1402346801;diametric;just talking about the blockchain, not my keys. 710493;1402346802;smickles;oh my, is usagi still a thing? 710494;1402346809;mircea_popescu;diametric yea i know. 710495;1402346823;Namworld;Not as in far off, but as in really weird result. 710496;1402346828;mircea_popescu;it's the fucking scriptures you understand, if we all manage to lose the chain at the same time we're fucked. 710497;1402346831;hdbuck;mircea_popescu im not taking anything personnally, i really appreciate your inputs man.. the average propaganda almost got me with their Carebears and unicorns. i'd rather being insulted for my stupidity than thrown a lollipop in my mouth ^^ 710498;1402346846;mircea_popescu;a sugar frosted shittypop 710499;1402346855;asciilifeform;to deliberately torment the btc-is-eeekvality crowd: WORM storage gizmo suggested as gedankenexperiment earlier could easily accept updates signed with hardcoded key from liege-lord 710500;1402346872;mircea_popescu;smickles definitely. 710501;1402346887;mircea_popescu;where was that link to recent derpage again... 710502;1402346921;mircea_popescu;gib it to me fluffypony 710503;1402346934;fluffypony;which derpage? 710504;1402346936;smickles;even if all but a few lost the chain, i would be very suspicious of that few 710505;1402346950;mircea_popescu;smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7070591#msg7070591 710506;1402346950;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 710507;1402346962;fluffypony;smickles: make sure you watch the video 710508;1402346967;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you gibt it to me in the past :D 710509;1402346977;*;fluffypony gives it to mircea_popescu all night long 710510;1402346990;asciilifeform;if all but a few lost the chain << no problem if we have... singable checkpoint hashes. 710511;1402346991;mircea_popescu;i guess i kinda walked right into that big cock... 710512;1402346995;fluffypony;LOL 710513;1402347012;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform zooko triangle issue tho 710514;1402347022;mircea_popescu;if they're singable they're prolly preimageable too 710515;1402347091;smickles;giving a thread title with [UnModerated] in it is like telling someone they are free 710516;1402347111;mircea_popescu;benkay: i'm highlighting that in a worst case scenario it's not a problem and also as Mats_cd03 and i have and keep pointing out - not a problem to begin with even. << what happens to you once gb blocks ? 710517;1402347115;asciilifeform;how many times i see zooko triangle brought up as if it were physical law. 710518;1402347121;mircea_popescu;smickles he had a moderated one 710519;1402347129;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i fear it is. 710520;1402347141;mircea_popescu;moar like riemann hypothesis. 710521;1402347195;fluffypony;smickles: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=629755.0 710522;1402347195;assbot;BMF has lost access to its wallet 710523;1402347197;fluffypony;moderated thread 710524;1402347208;fluffypony;http://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=629755.0 710525;1402347208;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet | Bitcointa.lk 710526;1402347213;fluffypony;including deleted threads 710527;1402347231;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if i recall - szabo disagreed 710528;1402347236;mircea_popescu;he did. 710529;1402347284;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: storing bits that never need to flip again ought to be technologically simpler - on basic physical level - than the normal kind. << this is a good point, and i imagine within the decade we will have special blockchain ssds being made. 710530;1402347320;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.235 BTC [+] 710531;1402347325;nubbins`;re: pgp keysigning party 710532;1402347328;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: just gotta bring back antifuse. it doesnt really get much simpler than antifuse. 710533;1402347351;nubbins`;PGP WoT...? 710534;1402347360;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yes 710535;1402347364;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes 710536;1402347373;nubbins`;of what use is this wot! 710537;1402347381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.235 BTC [+] 710538;1402347390;fluffypony;nubbins`: it's a Web of PGP Signing Parties 710539;1402347401;nubbins`;no, i get what a WoT is 710540;1402347417;pankkake;f2fs would be a good candidate for blockchain storage. anyway, I'm in the "block size won't go up that much, things will happen offchain" camp 710541;1402347418;nubbins`;just wondering what possible benefit could be gained by being represented in the "pgp wot" mentioned in article 710542;1402347441;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it strengthens the quality of debian's signatures for instance. 710543;1402347453;nubbins`;i see 710544;1402347458;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i do confess that at one point i toyed with the idea of rom-like storage on consumer 35 (or 16)mm film. 710545;1402347466;pankkake;so you know you have the right sig. prevents mitm, because it's hard to mitm real life 710546;1402347466;mike_c;pankkake: once we all sign up for circle we won't need the blockchain. 710547;1402347469;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Ms Boring forgot to make the distinction between the two Erik ventures << yeah not particularly inspiring. 710548;1402347473;pankkake;eheh 710549;1402347499;pankkake;s/right sig/right key/ 710550;1402347509;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: film lasts a good while, easy to copy and compare via low tech means 710551;1402347511;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it's more one of those "let's inject some power into otherwise worthy projects geeks had been dilligently holding afloat with a cuttingboard and a spatula over 30 years" 710552;1402347533;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform film lasts much less than you imagine. 710553;1402347554;smickles;I'm failing to see the value in this usagi crap and i didn't notice a video. I'm going to clean some dishes, easily worth more than reading about usagi 710554;1402347556;mircea_popescu;if you mean silver coloidal, it's utter shit. read up some time on the trouble hollywood has archiving, what itcosts, 710555;1402347563;mircea_popescu;how many were destroyed just to get rid of them 710556;1402347563;mircea_popescu;etc 710557;1402347564;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41492 @ 0.00085668 = 35.5454 BTC [-] {2} 710558;1402347576;nubbins`;film gets very unstable with time too 710559;1402347577;mircea_popescu;smickles wellyou asked. the value is lulz 710560;1402347584;nubbins`;great way to burn a house down 710561;1402347597;mircea_popescu;nubbins` that's the old nitro stuff. modern film no lonmger has the problem 710562;1402347599;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: yes, it decays. but this is why the young apprentice must copy film he inherits, etc. [insert post-apocalyptic hypotheticals] 710563;1402347601;nubbins`;ahhhh 710564;1402347610;nubbins`;grandfather was a war photographer, he lost boxes of negs 710565;1402347626;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i know people who go into seizures just fgrom the smell 710566;1402347635;nubbins`;yipes 710567;1402347640;asciilifeform;just skip the nitrocellulose, none of this problem then 710568;1402347641;mircea_popescu;(there's this very distinctive vinegary scent of "o shit we just lost this warehousefull") 710569;1402347648;nubbins`;heh 710570;1402347660;mircea_popescu;sorta like the smell of "we burned down 5000 hard drives. hopefully ALL th customers kept good backups 710571;1402347687;mircea_popescu;tech eyes just glaze over and stress vomiting ensues. 710572;1402347698;mircea_popescu;!up terp_ 710573;1402347714;terp_;hey whats up all 710574;1402347715;asciilifeform;very few things store as much (relatively) high fidelity data, and are at the same time as easy to duplicate, as film. 710575;1402347732;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform actually a cd stores more/better, but 710576;1402347742;mircea_popescu;there were some people looking into crystal doping storage 710577;1402347746;nubbins`;but bit rot isn't always noticeable until too late 710578;1402347748;mircea_popescu;seemed insanely info-dense 710579;1402347762;nubbins`;and while a few speckles on a microfiche aren't a problem, a few speckles on a dvd are 710580;1402347765;mircea_popescu;one write only, of course. 710581;1402347783;mircea_popescu;nubbins` well if you've microstored the blockchain, they are, yes. 710582;1402347832;nubbins`;a ha! 710583;1402347832;mthreat;http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/ claims "average annual durability of 99.999999999%" 710584;1402347833;assbot;AWS | Amazon Glacier - Online Backup Services & Cloud Backup Solutions 710585;1402347838;asciilifeform;error coding is a trivial problem - to any desired degree of redundancy 710586;1402347865;mthreat;$0.01 per GB-month (although retrieval apparently is more expensive) 710587;1402347870;mircea_popescu;mthreat i don't recall, what's theirtotal data store ? yotabytes ? 710588;1402347900;asciilifeform;if you want something your grandchildren might be able to copy, even if they cannot read - chemical photography. - that, or ink... 710589;1402347907;mthreat;no idea, without googling 710590;1402347915;mthreat;bigger than the blockchain 710591;1402347941;mircea_popescu;smickles: I have taken over the bitcoin corp in eve << how much shit was in the hangars in the end ? 710592;1402347959;mircea_popescu;mthreat well that for sure lol. fucking trilema is bigger than the blockchain 710593;1402347976;mircea_popescu;the melanogaster genome is bigger than the blockchain 710594;1402347987;mircea_popescu;the average redditor's porn stash is bigger than the blockchain 710595;1402347988;nubbins`;these nuts are bigger than the blockchain 710596;1402347997;mircea_popescu;i could keep going 710597;1402348020;fluffypony;someone should tell usagi about that service 710598;1402348055;mircea_popescu;the nutpacking service ? 710599;1402348071;pankkake;glacier is basically powered down hard drives. cheaper if you don't mind the high latency 710600;1402348120;mircea_popescu;so am i right in assuming the only career worthy of a man named brandon billings is... bill collection ? 710601;1402348203;Namworld;Well, it's always nice when you see someone with a last name befitting their career, at least. 710602;1402348232;mircea_popescu;princessnell: feminists have again come full circle: attacking a beauty queen for insuffiently supporting patriarchy << they're spinnin' so fast they could be weaving wool. 710603;1402348274;mircea_popescu;dub: so one half of our sepcies should require additional training to protect its ass from the other half? << yes. 710604;1402348290;mircea_popescu;in general, whenever one wants to deal with the world on one's own terms, one's required to take aditional training, and ALSO be talented. 710605;1402348307;mircea_popescu;otherwise, one can just learn to enjoy the process. 710606;1402348327;chetty; dub: so one half of our sepcies should require additional training to protect its ass from the other half? << yes.// I doubt it works out to halves 710607;1402348341;mircea_popescu;this has nothing to do with women. when i don't want to be treated like a fucking retarded tourist and charged 2 to 5 x everything, i learn and use the fucking local language. 710608;1402348352;mircea_popescu;when i don't want to be shocked by the mains power, i learn which bits to put my hands on. 710609;1402348368;mircea_popescu;when i want to make tea rather than coffee, i acquire the skill of putting the righjt fucking thing in the pot. 710610;1402348386;mircea_popescu;it has exactly zero to do with women specifically, and the whiny pretense to the contrary has only one indicaiton : 710611;1402348395;mircea_popescu;rape. 710612;1402348508;asciilifeform;learn which bits to put my hands on << i find this - in essence - to be the most handy test of who is worth dealing with as human vs meat 710613;1402348531;asciilifeform;;;google the camel has two humps 710614;1402348532;gribble;The camel has two humps (working title) - tof: ; The camel has two humps (working title) - University of Kent: ; Alan Kay on 'The Camel has Two Humps' - secretGeek: 710615;1402348591;mike_c;related aside: i got charged 2 to 3x for everything in romania and still felt like i was getting a deal 710616;1402348604;mircea_popescu;mike_c were you ? like what ? 710617;1402348626;mike_c;like at local convience store at 3am 710618;1402348635;mircea_popescu;yeabut i mean what you buy and what'd you pay 710619;1402348681;mike_c;hmm.. what i paid would tax the memory. but just like drinks and stuff. 710620;1402348693;mircea_popescu;was kinda curious what the actual factor was :p 710621;1402348712;jurov;http://ronja.twibright.com/optar/ can store 200kB/page..means 100k pages for today's blockchain 710622;1402348712;assbot;Twibright Optar 710623;1402348713;mike_c;but i distinctly remember comparing what i got charged to some of the posted prices in the store and realizing (and not minding) that he was bending me over. 710624;1402348727;mircea_popescu;a ok then lol 710625;1402348735;mircea_popescu;you should see the prices here. 710626;1402348742;mircea_popescu;carton of ciggaretes ? $19 710627;1402348770;mircea_popescu;and actually good camels, as opposed to the fire-retardant, chemical blend crap they sell in the us/eu to justify the theory that smoking causes cancer 710628;1402348780;mike_c;taste decent? i know this guy that gets dirt cheap smokes in canada and they taste like you're smoking somebody else's cigarette after they were done with it. 710629;1402348787;mthreat;taxis in buenos aires are often cheaper than a bus ride in the US 710630;1402348789;mircea_popescu;smoking TOBACCO doesn't do you in quite as drastically as smoking contemporary ciggaretts 710631;1402348872;BingoBoingo;I wonder if sfter death my lungs will find themselves better preserved than my bones 710632;1402348906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37050 @ 0.00085486 = 31.6726 BTC [-] {2} 710633;1402348928;jurov;lol they will find lung and liver fossilies, bones long gone? 710634;1402348962;BingoBoingo;I wish I could know the answer to that 710635;1402348967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00085445 = 4.1014 BTC [-] {2} 710636;1402349084;asciilifeform;http://ronja.twibright.com << also interesting 710637;1402349084;assbot;Home 710638;1402349085;benkay; benkay: you don't need a blockchain to accept/send btc. << not to mention the coinbr thing. he really doesn't need the blockchain at all. // coinbr requires btc addr to sign up i b'leev 710639;1402349150;jurov;btc signatures don't need blockchain either 710640;1402349172;benkay; benkay: i'm highlighting that in a worst case scenario it's not a problem and also as Mats_cd03 and i have and keep pointing out - not a problem to begin with even. << what happens to you once gb blocks ? // let me know when it's realistic. 710641;1402349270;jurov;it's not like everything must be stuffed into btc blockchain, we already have altcoins 710642;1402349312;diametric;whatever happened with that side chains circlejerk that was going around not long ago? 710643;1402349318;mike_c;second article i read recently of "death by sexism" http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/09/las-vegas-police-shot/10223527/ 710644;1402349318;assbot;Police release details of murderous Las Vegas rampage 710645;1402349342;BingoBoingo;diametric: The people who supposed them and the people capable of making them were not the same groups of people I imagine. 710646;1402349344;mike_c;"Wilcox walked past Amanda Miller and confronted her husband. Amanda Miller then fatally shot Wilcox" 710647;1402349377;jurov;ARCHAEOLOGISTS RECOVERED FABLED GENESIS BLOCK FROM GLASS DISC ACCOMPANIED BY LIVER ABD LUNG FOSSILS 710648;1402349453;asciilifeform;;;google crank bait orlov 710649;1402349454;gribble;ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops: ; JOURNAL: Dmitry Orlov on Collapse - Global Guerrillas: ; Mario's Fresh Bait - Geelong, VIC - Shopping & Retail | Facebook: (1 more message) 710650;1402349778;BingoBoingo;You know what would be the interesting desk accessory for bitcoiners, a Lucite genesis block, block. For use as a paperweight or bludgeon or whatever. 710651;1402350251;benkay;yup. want it. 710652;1402350269;benkay;but embedded in a sceptre 710653;1402350281;benkay;and probably made of something hard and valuable. 710654;1402350284;benkay;maybe even poky. 710655;1402350309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00005495 = 0.2748 BTC [+] {2} 710656;1402350430;jurov;sceptre? didn't know you're so theatrically inclined 710657;1402350431;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2319 @ 0.00005499 = 0.1275 BTC [+] 710658;1402350432;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00206055 = 0.2061 BTC [+] 710659;1402350470;Mats_cd03;benkay is a queen 710660;1402350485;Mats_cd03;har har 710661;1402350492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085554 = 2.7377 BTC [+] 710662;1402350518;jurov;or a goat 710663;1402350778;benkay;or a SUPERNODDDDDDDE 710664;1402350780;benkay;in a sauna. 710665;1402350797;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18848 @ 0.00085622 = 16.138 BTC [+] 710666;1402351674;cazalla;nubbins`: too easy against cpu or online play? i've got to buy a pro wii controller as the gamepad gives me rsi with mk8 710667;1402351712;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16902 @ 0.00085622 = 14.4718 BTC [+] 710668;1402351753;*;nubbins` sighs 710669;1402351764;nubbins`;i just dented the floor with my keys :/ 710670;1402352903;benkay;;;ident gabriela 710671;1402352903;gribble;Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. 710672;1402353176;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00085622 = 9.7609 BTC [+] 710673;1402353237;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00085745 = 8.5299 BTC [+] 710674;1402353420;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00085766 = 36.7078 BTC [+] {2} 710675;1402353420;thestringpuller;!ticker m F.MPIF 710676;1402353421;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021548 / 0.00021603 / 0.00021725 (14601 shares, 3.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (124310 shares, 26.99 BTC) 710677;1402353434;thestringpuller;moopmoop 710678;1402353481;mike_c;lol. this site wants to make sure i am using: Mozilla® Firefox® 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 19 or 25 710679;1402353515;pankkake;so only insecure unmainted versions?! 710680;1402353519;mike_c;that v14 must have been a killer 710681;1402353543;asciilifeform;cryptome dead? 710682;1402353544;pankkake;24's still supported, 25 isn't 710683;1402353551;mike_c;nice 710684;1402353603;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00085745 = 9.5606 BTC [-] 710685;1402353625;BingoBoingo;That's unsettleing 710686;1402353662;thestringpuller;24's rollin' dubs 710687;1402353890;asciilifeform;speaking of the blockchain storage discussion from earlier - anyone remember 'ArVid' ? 710688;1402353914;asciilifeform;;;google ArVid backup 710689;1402353915;gribble;ArVid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Using Video Recorders for Backup - Stuart Cheshire: ; Arvid Gerstmann - Android Apps on Google Play: 710690;1402353971;asciilifeform;current blockchain would easily fit on ~10 vhs tapes. 710691;1402354011;asciilifeform;blockchain is more or less an ideal application for tape (and any other non-randomaccess medium) 710692;1402354062;mike_c;yeah, there you go. classic storage device for non-flippin bits. 710693;1402354083;mike_c;tape backup drives are reasonably fast too. 710694;1402354091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC 710695;1402354274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0241769 = 0.1692 BTC [+] 710696;1402354378;fluffypony;the NYPD commissioner looks like he'll eat your children for breakfast 710697;1402354378;fluffypony;http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-nypd-still-wont-explain-its-drone-plans 710698;1402354378;assbot;The NYPD Still Won't Explain Its Drone Plans | Motherboard 710699;1402354411;benkay;bitbiz: ship blockchains on hdd's 710700;1402354424;mike_c;tapes are $20 / TB. can't beat that with a stick. 710701;1402354671;mike_c;william bratton? 710702;1402354702;mike_c;he doesn't look half as scary as ray kelly did. 710703;1402354745;mike_c;broken windows my ass 710704;1402355288;*;dub wont mention what he's been doing this morning 710705;1402355338;asciilifeform;fluffypony: linked from same: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-graffiti-drone-an-interview-with-katsu 710706;1402355339;assbot;The Drone That Will Change Graffiti: An Interview with KATSU | Motherboard 710707;1402355377;asciilifeform;^ robotic graffiti isn't new; i vaguely recall a 'printer van' with eight spray cans that spat out text as it went, circa '04 710708;1402355418;dub;I recall seeing a paintball dot matrix printer in some promo 710709;1402355585;asciilifeform;one might imagine that eventually graffiti folks will play 'paintball' with supposedly-unpaintable symbols of usg dominance 710710;1402355660;*;asciilifeform pictures the inevitable solar-powered automatic vandalizer controlled via blockchain... 710711;1402355672;fluffypony;lola 710712;1402355679;fluffypony;yeah 710713;1402355772;asciilifeform;works best with the (hypothetical) north korean blockchain shortwave repeater. 710714;1402355860;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41900 @ 0.00085781 = 35.9422 BTC [+] {2} 710715;1402355865;mircea_popescu;mike_c yeah, they taste like the 80s 710716;1402355921;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00085631 = 29.714 BTC [-] {2} 710717;1402356088;mircea_popescu;jurov: lol they will find lung and liver fossilies, bones long gone? << this is likely lol 710718;1402356148;benkay;asciilifeform, dub: almost needless to point out by now, but the buenos aires public wall paintings are better than anything the NYC scene has cranked out since...forever. 710719;1402356162;benkay;"everything is better in argentinga" 710720;1402356167;benkay;*argentina 710721;1402356172;benkay;gold tongue! 710722;1402356178;benkay;no wait silvertongue 710723;1402356206;asciilifeform;;;google argentina sparkletina 710724;1402356207;gribble;sparkletina - Yahoo Answers: ; I need help creating a livingroom with a masculine flair like an ...: 710725;1402356208;mircea_popescu;btw, "coinbr requires btc addr to sign up i b'leev" << so what if it does ? once you're in you can trade with anyone else in. 710726;1402356225;benkay;yeah, jurov pointed out that it's not actually dependent on the bc 710727;1402356243;benkay;although i haven't found the signing functionality in bitc yet - mebbe Mats_cd03 makes that happen 710728;1402356281;mircea_popescu; asciilifeform, dub: almost needless to point out by now, but the buenos aires public wall paintings are better than anything the NYC scene has cranked out since...forever. << this is true. 710729;1402356290;mircea_popescu;and women actually paint walls here, which is refreshing. 710730;1402356303;mircea_popescu;the us "scene" is like greenspun's ciclid association. all dorks. 710731;1402356316;benkay;the negros were pretty hxc back in the day, non? 710732;1402356359;mircea_popescu;but women ? 710733;1402356389;asciilifeform;'sparkletina' is apparently a 'key word' used by various u.s. (?) folks who wish they could move there 710734;1402356413;mircea_popescu;benkay " let me know when it's realistic." << let me explain realistic. if there's 4k txn a second, which weigh a conservative 512 bytes each, at 512 seconds per block you get... 710735;1402356417;asciilifeform;(google fails again) 710736;1402356418;mircea_popescu;;;calc 512 * 512 * 4000 710737;1402356418;gribble;1048576000 710738;1402356427;mircea_popescu;surprise surprise, our friend mr 1gb block. 710739;1402356436;mircea_popescu;now, 4k txn / second is nothing if you srsly aspire to be visa. 710740;1402356460;benkay;so this implies a rather hard fork. 710741;1402356484;asciilifeform;i thought blockchain only aspires to be 'good delivery brick' vs. visa 710742;1402356503;benkay;and weren't you just harping on the upsides to a size-constrained block? more competition for limited resources? 710743;1402356507;mircea_popescu;it just implies "accessibility" is about as dumb a thing to think about re bitcoin as you know, speeding tickets for snails. 710744;1402356531;asciilifeform;betcha they'd invent speeding ticket if they could. 710745;1402356538;mircea_popescu;we really don't want, need or could use more poorfags/stupidfags involved 710746;1402356543;asciilifeform;'yer doing 5mm/sec in a 4mm zone' 710747;1402356550;mircea_popescu;admitting against all evidence that there even exists a distinmction between stupid and poor. 710748;1402356555;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol. 710749;1402356775;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61500 @ 0.00085705 = 52.7086 BTC [+] {3} 710750;1402357049;mircea_popescu;so i just did a round of solid shopping. 710751;1402357065;mircea_popescu;gonna paste the list in here, anyone's welcome to guess either us, romania or buenos aires prices for the lot 710752;1402357071;mircea_popescu;then in an hour or so i tell teh truth. 710753;1402357076;mircea_popescu;here goes : 710754;1402357078;mircea_popescu;lb ground beef, 2lb nice beef steak, 6lb fresh ripe pineaple, half lb fresh figs, lb plums,1.5lb masdaam, swiss, smoked local cheese, lb cold cuts/fungs sausage,lb spinach, salad, 2lb ripe tomatoes, 1/2lb mushrooms, lb red peppers,4 ears young corn,2 artichokes,100g dry shitake,100g maraschino cherries, lb chickpeas,14oz heinz ketchup, half lb exceptionally grandiose aceitunas verdes, imported dijon 210g, cabfare 15kms 710755;1402357078;mircea_popescu;round trip. 710756;1402357146;asciilifeform;~300 usd (if bought here.) 710757;1402357165;asciilifeform;~400 if you want actual (vs. synthetic) foods. 710758;1402357201;mircea_popescu;o it's all actual 710759;1402357206;mircea_popescu;you should see this pineaple. 710760;1402357490;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: benkay is a queen << ahahaha they got yo numba nao vulpes. 710761;1402357606;Namworld;300 USD? Sounds a bit too high. Even for Canada/US 710762;1402357641;mircea_popescu;mike_c: tapes are $20 / TB. can't beat that with a stick. << quite true. 710763;1402357646;mike_c;i could only guess at the cab ride. i'm a better cook than benkay but that's about it. 710764;1402357692;mircea_popescu;the blockchain is a bettercook than benkay 710765;1402357696;Namworld;Well 15km would be what, around 30 USD? Round-trip, 60USD? 710766;1402357718;mircea_popescu;no, 15km is the whole round trip. market is like 5ish miles away 710767;1402357765;mthreat;cab fare around 150 pesos, unless stuck in lots of traffic 710768;1402357769;mircea_popescu;this nice, farmer's market thing 710769;1402357781;mircea_popescu;mthreat you prolly know progreso 710770;1402357809;mthreat;not by name.. where's that one? 710771;1402357814;mircea_popescu;;;google Mercado del Progreso 710772;1402357815;gribble;Mercado del Progreso | WhatsUpBuenosAires: ; Mercado del Progreso – Buenos Aires, Argentina | publicmarkets.com: ; Caballito, Buenos Aires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 710773;1402357820;Namworld;ok, then... I'd put cost closer to 150-180 USD then... 710774;1402357839;mircea_popescu;Namworld where that, in quebec ? 710775;1402357875;asciilifeform;ignoring the question of whether these things ('as printed on the crate', rather than doctored substitutes) can even be had in usa. 710776;1402357893;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well, the heinz is a direct import. 710777;1402357906;mircea_popescu;worchestershire (known here as "salsa inglesa") they were out of 710778;1402357924;Namworld;Well yes, I suppose. Canada/US should have similar prices all around. Although certain products will vary by region. 710779;1402357941;mircea_popescu;the notion that the us has the same prices all around boggles my mind. 710780;1402357946;mircea_popescu;all around kansas orwhat ?! 710781;1402358062;mircea_popescu;"This white paper seeks to put forth the economic and technical reasons that the digital tokens known as AppCoins can develop a value in the market and maintain their value over the long term, should their associated application gain adoption by users. " 710782;1402358072;mircea_popescu;summary "hello i would like to be indicted" 710783;1402358078;Namworld;They don't, but assuming a large amount of varied goods, probably rarely more difference than 10%-15% for the same stuff. 710784;1402358127;Namworld;Barring shopping at a place with higher quality products. The outlets would need to be similar in both place. 710785;1402358141;mircea_popescu;i guess you've never lived in san diego, manhattan, downtown dc etc. 710786;1402358164;mircea_popescu;but this is the highest quality products baby :) 710787;1402358176;mircea_popescu;the outlets can't be similar, because podunk doesn't have jewish delis. 710788;1402358259;thestringpuller;on data Andrew Auernheimer 710789;1402358260;Namworld;Hmm, I guess I should consider that. Downtown locations will be more expensive... 710790;1402358263;thestringpuller;dat* 710791;1402358327;mircea_popescu;and speaking of jewish deli, you should have seen this butcher get the steak off the bone. 710792;1402358331;mircea_popescu;an artist, this man. 710793;1402358370;mircea_popescu;at it for 39 years, he said when asked. "and after that long time, you'd better be good at it or else you'd better had quit long ago" 710794;1402358382;asciilifeform;;;google just lather that's all 710795;1402358382;gribble;Just Lather, That's All: ; Tellez, Just Lather, That's All: ; Just Lather, That's All - YouTube: 710796;1402358387;thestringpuller;wise words 710797;1402358396;mike_c;heh, you better be good at it or you won't have any fingers left 710798;1402358397;asciilifeform;^ for some reason i always think of that piece when imagining Ar 710799;1402358421;thestringpuller;;;calc 20000 * 365 710800;1402358422;gribble;7300000 710801;1402358443;mircea_popescu;mike_c he held the thing by the fucking blade, too. a 12 inch knife sharp enough to slice beef on touch 710802;1402358446;Namworld;Well I'd sure like to know romania prices 710803;1402358691;Namworld;So... do we get to know the total cost? 710804;1402358923;mircea_popescu;heh, pansy barber. 710805;1402358928;mircea_popescu;Namworld yeah, soon enough 710806;1402358931;mircea_popescu;!up PeterGriffin 710807;1402358937;BingoBoingo;Namworld: What, and let the people who death ray'd his new MOBO death ray the Pineapples!!! 710808;1402358939;PeterGriffin;what up moither fuckers 710809;1402358971;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4952 @ 0.00085612 = 4.2395 BTC [-] 710810;1402358983;mircea_popescu;PeterGriffin and who might you be? 710811;1402358994;PeterGriffin;god hates you if your not the non elect 710812;1402359019;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 710813;1402359020;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 647.26, Best ask: 648.86, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 648.86, 24 hour volume: 6803.40421945, 24 hour low: 639.93, 24 hour high: 659.0, 24 hour vwap: 0 710814;1402359036;Namworld;BingoBoingo... what? 710815;1402359050;PeterGriffin;;;help 710816;1402359051;gribble;The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ 710817;1402359056;PeterGriffin;!ops 710818;1402359061;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Did you miss the motherboard convo? 710819;1402359066;PeterGriffin;i smell a ban coming 710820;1402359080;Namworld;I guess I have 710821;1402359145;BingoBoingo;PeterGriffin: Are you that CalvinKlein from Friday 710822;1402359149;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: motherboard << ? 710823;1402359157;PeterGriffin;calvinklein? no 710824;1402359201;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=153 710825;1402359201;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 710826;1402359222;asciilifeform;aha that one 710827;1402359231;PeterGriffin;hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 710828;1402359241;Mats_cd03;hiiii 710829;1402359256;PeterGriffin;god hates you if your not the non elect 710830;1402359309;Mats_cd03;http://youtu.be/HrKp8Zx6V_s 710831;1402359310;assbot;Mayer Hawthorne - Crime (Lyric Video) ft. Kendrick Lamar - YouTube 710832;1402359322;BingoBoingo;hi ===== 710833;1402359335;PeterGriffin;hi 710834;1402359379;BingoBoingo;!down penguirker 710835;1402359380;PeterGriffin;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UQABR_9gGI&list=PLA932903698A56780 710836;1402359380;assbot;The Sovereignty of God Versus Man-Made Religions, Hollywood Movies & Petty Emotionalism - YouTube 710837;1402359389;BingoBoingo;!down PeterGriffin 710838;1402359398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.025001 = 0.125 BTC [-] 710839;1402359453;Mats_cd03;lol 710840;1402359518;Mats_cd03;i always laugh when i read comments about bitcoin on hn 710841;1402359578;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: for some reason i thought the subject was forbidden there - unless posted by authorized phoundation shill 710842;1402359642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 400 @ 0.002 = 0.8 BTC 710843;1402359682;mircea_popescu;that's not very far from truth asciilifeform 710844;1402359711;mircea_popescu;anyway : romanian prices, ~280 lei. /3.2 = 87.5 usd. 710845;1402359726;*;asciilifeform has the honour of running a site hellbanned on hn. 710846;1402359735;mircea_popescu;argentinian prices, 980 pesos. /11.4 = 85.96 usd. 710847;1402359738;mircea_popescu;CHEAPER! 710848;1402359746;asciilifeform;(described here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=91) 710849;1402359748;assbot;Loper OS » Tenser, Said the Censor [*] 710850;1402359798;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform wait, you're NOT ONLY A WIKIPEDIA SPAMMER ARE YOU!!1 710851;1402359819;*;asciilifeform unrepentant spam desperado 710852;1402359825;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9385 @ 0.00085551 = 8.029 BTC [-] 710853;1402359896;mircea_popescu;"Another common criticism of this practice has been that while in theory, it's a smart and effective way to discourage trolling, in actuality, the trolls and spammers are the first to become wise to this, and instead many innocent users get hurt, being unaware of what's going on." 710854;1402359908;mircea_popescu;in point of fact, hellbanning is exactly the opposite of this chan's +m 710855;1402359926;mircea_popescu;it has disadvantages in place of all the advantages, and no redeeming advantages whatsoever 710856;1402359929;mircea_popescu;other that being easy and cheap 710857;1402359961;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it's also an inescapable fact of life for idiots who insist on maintaining appearance of 'democracy!' while keeping the signal to noise ratio within some bounds 710858;1402359978;mircea_popescu;myeah 710859;1402360002;mircea_popescu;who's pg ? 710860;1402360004;mircea_popescu;greenspun ? 710861;1402360008;asciilifeform;graham 710862;1402360027;mircea_popescu;oh lol 710863;1402360029;asciilifeform;(goes by pg on his site) 710864;1402360113;mircea_popescu;http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/killed.png 710865;1402360119;mircea_popescu;pretty good png to haveactually. 710866;1402360147;mircea_popescu;o that's what that recode shit coming out of nowhere is 710867;1402360148;asciilifeform;^ taken on an apple box dusted off for the occasion, purposefully 710868;1402360151;mircea_popescu;mossberg got fired 710869;1402360165;asciilifeform;lol 710870;1402360180;mircea_popescu;i peripherally noticed there's yet another one of these web platform shits. 710871;1402360184;asciilifeform;(to anyone in usa, 'mossberg' is a '12' caliber shotgun) 710872;1402360192;mircea_popescu;with conferences and errything 710873;1402360219;mircea_popescu;brb dinner. 710874;1402360313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 60 @ 0.002 = 0.12 BTC 710875;1402360341;asciilifeform;http://aspensmonster.com/2014/05/22/leaving-hacker-news 710876;1402360343;assbot;» Leaving Hacker News ASPENSMONSTER 710877;1402360354;asciilifeform;^ some interesting discussion re: how hn works 710878;1402360409;asciilifeform;the auto-zap for nsa-related crap is especially entertaining (folks keep finding ways around it, mods play whackamole) 710879;1402360458;asciilifeform;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bb3m2/this_comment_defending_bitcoin_got_me_hellbanned/ 710880;1402360459;assbot;This comment defending Bitcoin got me hellbanned from "Hacker" News. : Bitcoin 710881;1402360549;asciilifeform;the interesting thing isn't that pg & co. zap posts they aren't particularly fond of. rather more interesting: the elaborate gymnastics to maintain a pretense of being an uncensored forum. 710882;1402360600;asciilifeform;'reddit' may be a cesspool, but hn is a very special kind of echo hell. 710883;1402361015;benkay; Mats_cd03: benkay is a queen << ahahaha they got yo numba nao vulpes. // y'all ain't even seen me in my heels yet 710884;1402362126;BingoBoingo;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-09/facebook-zuckerberg-sued-over-directors-compensation.html 710885;1402362126;assbot;Facebook, Zuckerberg Sued Over Directors Compensation - Bloomberg 710886;1402362422;thestringpuller;yea 710887;1402362425;thestringpuller;fuck zuckerberg 710888;1402362428;thestringpuller;FUCK DAT GUY 710889;1402362492;mircea_popescu;assbot> Leaving Hacker News ASPENSMONSTER << all these important things i've missed out on while doing other things. 710890;1402362546;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform wait what ?! they don't discuss nsa ?~! 710891;1402362569;asciilifeform;all i can surmise is, pg would rather not. 710892;1402362591;benkay;distracts from fartup derpus 710893;1402362635;mircea_popescu;well, inasmuch as zombie is allowed to continue to exist, zombie is well advised to not be too critical of the decay process. 710894;1402362681;mircea_popescu;"Reddit seems to be one of the only places you can have true freedom of speech on the internet, and it thrives thanks to it. " 710895;1402362685;mircea_popescu;ahahaha help me rwanda 710896;1402362742;thestringpuller;true freedom of speech? da fuq does that even mean? 710897;1402362753;mircea_popescu;like the true scotsman 710898;1402362767;mircea_popescu;speech that conforms to one's priors is freedom of speech 710899;1402362788;mircea_popescu;speech that brings forth the cognitive dissonance one's priors suffer at the hands of reality is trolling 710900;1402363041;mike_c;mircea_popescu: walt mossberg?? 710901;1402363090;mike_c;i remember 15 years ago coworkers sweating his reviews. 710902;1402363131;mircea_popescu;yeah him 710903;1402363203;mike_c;this could be like oprah leaving cable. he's not bigger than the journal. 710904;1402363204;mircea_popescu;dj fired him last year turns out, he started this recode thing january 710905;1402363214;mircea_popescu;he didnt leave, he got canned 710906;1402363219;mircea_popescu;prolly tried to resist a salary cut 710907;1402363240;mike_c;crazy. well, he'll find a paycheck somewhere. 710908;1402363337;mircea_popescu;doubt it. 710909;1402363345;mircea_popescu;he's running in the wrong track with the wrong dogs. 710910;1402363400;mircea_popescu;"It was autodeaded, presumably because of my use of the term circlejerk, which HN is quite sensitive to." 710911;1402363402;mircea_popescu;aahahaha 710912;1402363403;dub;gay 710913;1402363408;dub;er, gah* 710914;1402363455;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482 710915;1402363457;assbot;Loper OS » Tungsten Will Melt in Your Mouth! 710916;1402363457;mircea_popescu;"I was recently met with a torrent of downvotes nearly 100, might have actually crossed that for poking fun at HNs incessant were-not-reddit-were-much-more-sophisticated circlejerking" 710917;1402363473;mircea_popescu;o wait, because basically both hn and reddit are owned by the same dead media conglomerate is it 710918;1402363476;dub;the past caught up and is nutpunching me 710919;1402363478;mircea_popescu;so theykinda have a bit of an identity issue 710920;1402363500;mircea_popescu;like the mercury/ford 710921;1402363546;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14920 @ 0.0000669 = 0.9981 BTC [+] {3} 710922;1402363599;mircea_popescu;Shame on me for continually pointing out this communitys obsession over being the glorious master race of online discussion whilst poo-pooing the cesspools of filthy casuals like Reddit or, god forbid, Slashdot. 710923;1402363602;mircea_popescu;ahahaha wait, WHAT ? 710924;1402363609;mircea_popescu;hacker news seriously thinks they matter somehow ?! 710925;1402363649;Namworld;Pretty much no one knows about hacker news. 710926;1402363656;mike_c;fb95e6a6f3843ea7fe22e08d08b20ead70ee3181b363916439a7c93da9b89c0d 710927;1402363662;mircea_popescu;i suppose that doesn't detract 710928;1402363680;asciilifeform;for a turdmeister, wielding the banhammer isn't really satisfying unless he imagines that he's adding heretics to an all-important 'index librorum prohibitorum' 710929;1402363685;mircea_popescu;mike_c wassat ? 710930;1402363699;mike_c;a prediction for later. i want proof that i called it. 710931;1402363701;thestringpuller;Hacker News has always throught they mattered I though... 710932;1402363702;asciilifeform;removing the miscreants from the universe of Things That Matter 710933;1402363704;thestringpuller;thought 710934;1402363705;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482 710935;1402363717;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you wanna talk about nonsense items and the rotten paradigms they create and perpetuate ? teh banhammer. worse than risc. 710936;1402363725;asciilifeform;lol 710937;1402363742;asciilifeform;purely 'psychiatric' interest here. 710938;1402363753;mircea_popescu;worse than anything about c/c++ 710939;1402363783;mircea_popescu;pure and simple, at some point in whatever, 1995, some derp with a blog/forum/platform came up with the idea of BANNING 710940;1402363793;mircea_popescu;and it's been sticking ever since, irrespective of how stupid it is. 710941;1402363807;mircea_popescu;mike_c now im curious 710942;1402363815;mike_c;i am predicting your announcement. 710943;1402363838;mircea_popescu;holy shit. 710944;1402363846;mircea_popescu;i'll bet you you aren't. 710945;1402363849;asciilifeform;there was to be an announcement ? 710946;1402363851;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00085582 = 4.1507 BTC [+] {2} 710947;1402363864;mike_c;hm, ok, i'll make a small wager. i'm not super-confident, but i think i've got it. 710948;1402363886;mircea_popescu;can be a bet for charity. whole bet goes to b-a donation address 710949;1402363891;mike_c;sounds good 710950;1402363899;mike_c;0.5 btc? 710951;1402363901;mircea_popescu;sure. 710952;1402363928;mircea_popescu;so if you predicted it i send kako a btc, if not you do ? 710953;1402363942;mike_c;deal 710954;1402363968;thestringpuller;LOL 710955;1402363989;mircea_popescu;pretty cool way to run a bet i say 710956;1402364009;thestringpuller;how do we know you didn't change the date of the announcement 710957;1402364021;mircea_popescu;who's we 710958;1402364126;dub;his nick isn't inaba or Luke-Jr? 710959;1402364132;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I wonder why silver is the white metal everyone seems to horde and not gallium. 710960;1402364207;mircea_popescu;http://aspensmonster.com/2014/05/22/leaving-hacker-news/#comment-10163 710961;1402364209;assbot;» Leaving Hacker News ASPENSMONSTER 710962;1402364286;mircea_popescu;"But in the absence of some system of law, the tiny minority of users out to do harm intentionally or not eventually drive out all the civil community members, leaving behind a lawless, chaotic badland." 710963;1402364316;mircea_popescu;this is such an amusing thing, because of all the utterly meaningless forums out there pretending to be communities and deluding themselves as to their own relevancy, not a single one would admit it's a failure 710964;1402364329;mircea_popescu;yet each and every one will pass this bit of "oh, leaving behind the broken spot" 710965;1402364349;mircea_popescu;nobody can point to such a broken spot on the interwebs, but nevertheless the apparent abundance of such is why every lemming wears plaid. 710966;1402364427;thestringpuller;When does something matter? 710967;1402364458;asciilifeform;announcement << i'll take the shot. mp to sell warehouses in Ar for btc. 710968;1402364461;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC 710969;1402364469;dub;the fibers can easily be made fuzz. Being crushed and shortened in unit length, staple tends to become fly or dusts with ease and dispersed into atmosphere.Their Carbon Fiber users are advised to be careful not to dispose naked skins to the fibers and to take deliberate dusts cleaning measures naked skins. 710970;1402364474;dub;thank you japan 710971;1402364494;asciilifeform;dub: the infamous 'pencil in space capsule' problem 710972;1402364514;mircea_popescu;dub the fuzz is after you now ? 710973;1402364535;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyXk3n5FCkw 710974;1402364535;assbot;Join the Fuzz - We Love the Violence - YouTube 710975;1402364583;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12704 @ 0.00085529 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {2} 710976;1402364610;BingoBoingo;Is there a link to when this announcement was announced? 710977;1402364752;mircea_popescu;"That said, every community is different. I've personally talked to people in charge of large online communities ones you probably participate in every day and part of the reason those communities haven't broken down into utter chaos by now is because they secretly hellban and slowban their most problematic users. " 710978;1402364778;mircea_popescu;"i have talked to some people i won't name about some things i won't name but take my word on it that it's relevant, and they said my stupidity is entirely correct" 710979;1402364782;BingoBoingo;WTF is a slowban 710980;1402364785;mircea_popescu;how do these idiots live with themselves ? 710981;1402364802;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo apparently make your pages load slowly because whoever cares about your site sucking 710982;1402364808;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: slowban << poor site performance emulated for a very special someone 710983;1402364828;mircea_popescu;anyway, gotta remember that Jeff Atwood is pretty fucking stupid. 710984;1402364888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00085788 = 6.863 BTC [+] {2} 710985;1402364888;BingoBoingo;What the fuck. Someone provokes annoyance in good faith and the response is now to lie and cover yourself in shit so they don't want to be seen around you? 710986;1402364945;mircea_popescu;yup 710987;1402364966;mircea_popescu;this dovetails neatly with "women don't have to do anything in particular to not get fucked" 710988;1402365032;BingoBoingo;I have to wonder who the original autist was to come up with the idea of a slowban. 710989;1402365054;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: afaik it was one of pg's flunkies. 710990;1402365057;asciilifeform;perhaps altman. 710991;1402365073;asciilifeform;(his vizier) 710992;1402365096;BingoBoingo;This has to be some clinically defective reasoning. 710993;1402365112;midnightmagic;what's a hellban? 710994;1402365128;asciilifeform;midnightmagic: hellban << victim thinks his posts show. 710995;1402365139;asciilifeform;he logs out - they're gone. 710996;1402365142;midnightmagic;oh yeah. Like +z. I love +z. 710997;1402365170;dub;aka /shun 710998;1402365190;dub;ircd ignores msgs, client cant tell 710999;1402365201;mircea_popescu;dub actually the material i've seen included a lot of derping about how fucking horrible and psychologically blabla that is. 711000;1402365216;mircea_popescu;so i guess the kids in charge have some deep seated issues with this sort of passive-agressive nonsense. 711001;1402365257;midnightmagic;sounds like new-age nonsense to me 711002;1402365279;dub;safest way to deal with some kinds of damage 711003;1402365302;midnightmagic;yeah, unfortunately :-/ 711004;1402365314;mircea_popescu;dub so the guy you're "shunning" twists your nipples. 711005;1402365317;mircea_popescu;do you keep at it or what. 711006;1402365334;mircea_popescu;it's utterly dependent on you living in a boring environment. or in other words, if shunning works, your life sucks. 711007;1402365406;mircea_popescu;"enjoyment of the first look you take at a comment page is prioritized over active participation. That's great if you're trying to attach ads to pictures of cats, but if you're trying to have a real conversation, it just gets in the way. I can read, I don't need an algorithm to tell me which comments are notable and which ones are junk. If I see a troll post on any other site, I don't seize up and have an aneurism, I j 711008;1402365406;mircea_popescu;ust scroll past it. 711009;1402365406;mircea_popescu;I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I can easily follow 50+ page PHPbb threads that drag on for months or even years, or 4chan threads with hundreds of posts and more on the way every time you refresh, but a small conversation (in reality; I considered it huge by my HN standards) I had on here the other day with about 10 comments or so made my head spin. I wrote half the posts and it was still hard to follow! O 711010;1402365409;mircea_popescu;h, and of course, no one but the people I responded to will ever read the things I wrote hours after the thread dropped off the front page." 711011;1402365417;mircea_popescu;wow look at that : they actually understand what's wrong with the ~others~ 711012;1402365432;mircea_popescu;The Reddit discussion model is completely oriented towards providing the fast food of news commentary, where your << missing 1st line 711013;1402365469;dub;life is not always a forum 711014;1402365488;mircea_popescu;exactly. 711015;1402365633;mircea_popescu;anyway, fun to see people on these very successful sites are lively debating solved problems in fain, years ago. makes my asshole swell. 711016;1402365698;asciilifeform;;;google funarg problem 711017;1402365698;gribble;Funarg problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The FUNARG Problem Explained - Software Preservation Group: ; FUNARG Problem - DSpace@MIT: 711018;1402365721;asciilifeform;^ a problem gleefully re-introduced by quite a few 'language of the day!' designers 711019;1402365748;asciilifeform;this kind of thing is the norm in techno-derpatronics 711020;1402365775;asciilifeform;dig up a (solved) problem (or, 'problem'), peddle solution (or 'solution'), ???, profit 711021;1402365798;thestringpuller;refreshing trilema hoping to see an announcement #assetslife 711022;1402365814;thestringpuller;but I guess with pankkake 's bot that's not necessary anymore 711023;1402365821;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform le suck. 711024;1402365864;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.025001 = 0.25 BTC [-] 711025;1402365968;asciilifeform;this is sometimes done in academia. as described in an infamous crackpot essay, 'stealing the chaos': 711026;1402365970;asciilifeform;http://lesswrong.com/lw/kv/beware_of_stephen_j_gould 711027;1402365973;assbot;Beware of Stephen J. Gould - Less Wrong 711028;1402365986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.025001 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2} 711029;1402365987;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23799979 BTC [+] 711030;1402366047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 16 @ 0.025 = 0.4 BTC [-] {3} 711031;1402366069;asciilifeform;(lw is another reddit clone that makes hn, etc. look sane. inhabited by folks terrified of robo-apocalypse. i was drummed out of lw as a 'future genocidal criminal' for... considering resurrecting doug lenat's 'eurisko.') 711032;1402366103;mircea_popescu;hm 711033;1402366112;mircea_popescu;just how many of these social media sites did you get banned from ? 711034;1402366134;asciilifeform;tbh, i wasn't properly banned from any of them. 711035;1402366138;asciilifeform;login still functions 711036;1402366157;asciilifeform;ban isn't quite the word here 711037;1402366178;BingoBoingo;Kulakified? 711038;1402366193;asciilifeform;when you merit your own line of code in some turdmeister's db handler, but not banned... what do we call this. 711039;1402366273;mircea_popescu;banned lol 711040;1402366353;asciilifeform;in retrospect, being cast ashore from the shit-ocean was astonishingly good fortune. 711041;1402366373;asciilifeform;think how many potentially-interesting folks are floating there still. 711042;1402366389;TheNewDeal;why thank you assbot 711043;1402366396;mircea_popescu;prolly. 711044;1402366779;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00085527 = 9.6646 BTC [-] 711045;1402366922;mircea_popescu;well i guess with all teh encouragement ima make more travel log posts 711046;1402367023;TheNewDeal;do it 711047;1402367035;TheNewDeal;loved the mango and ginger breakfast picture as well 711048;1402367334;mircea_popescu;it turns out to be a pretty great breakfast! 711049;1402367346;mike_c;best part of winning a bitbet: gloating in the comments. 711050;1402367363;TheNewDeal;I love mango and I love ginger, but I haven't had the combination. Sounds like an indian dish to me 711051;1402367397;TheNewDeal;mike_c link? 711052;1402367404;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/567/simona-halep-to-win-roland-garros/#c3022 711053;1402367404;assbot;BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros :: 1.03 B (14%) on Yes, 6.22 B (86%) on No | closed 2 weeks 1 day ago 711054;1402367449;TheNewDeal;aha saw it 711055;1402367469;TheNewDeal;can't believe 7 btc was laid down on that bet 711056;1402367474;TheNewDeal;usually the sports ones are sparse 711057;1402367485;mircea_popescu;mike_c btw, the coffee shop i happenedto stop for my pasteleria today (which dubs itself as a "local de encuentro" and during the night time doubles as a whorehouse) just happened to run the match on a large screen 711058;1402367498;TheNewDeal;and females tennis too.. 711059;1402367498;mircea_popescu;i caught it starting with the 4-6 6-7 1-0 moment 711060;1402367512;mircea_popescu;that little shit gave sharapova a good run for her tits. 711061;1402367524;TheNewDeal;hahaha 711062;1402367527;mircea_popescu;at some point the russian fowled 5 serves in a row 711063;1402367559;assbot;Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0DH2FTF.txt ) 711064;1402367559;BingoBoingo;!b 9 711065;1402367999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0251 = 0.251 BTC [+] 711066;1402368002;mike_c;hah, yeah, i'm glad i didn't watch it. too much of a sweat. 711067;1402368077;TheNewDeal;I'm very sad I didn't get to see the sexy Sharapova in action :( 711068;1402368102;mircea_popescu;nice legs yeah 711069;1402368365;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2227057 BTC [-] 711070;1402368442;TheNewDeal;bc,stats 711071;1402368541;TheNewDeal;updating TheNewDeal's prediction to 6.3% 711072;1402368543;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 711073;1402368545;gribble;Current Blocks: 305040 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1391 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 22 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12115562214.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.0537 711074;1402368623;mircea_popescu;but what's the point/use for a changing prediction ? 711075;1402368647;TheNewDeal;gribble does it! 711076;1402368663;mircea_popescu;lolk 711077;1402368814;TheNewDeal;Yesterday was 4.8, 6/7 was 6.9% 711078;1402368835;TheNewDeal;gribble was guessing like 0% when I was guessing around 5 711079;1402368942;TheNewDeal;I play around with my model a little bit and try to make it look realist. Gribble and bitcoinwisdom are pretty much looking at something like the last 500 or 1000 blocks and predicting off that 711080;1402368953;TheNewDeal;+ic 711081;1402369139;TheNewDeal;will bitbet start reporting the results of their bets in the manner I was talking about yesterday? 711082;1402369176;TheNewDeal;Like Gain:X, Total Resolved: Y, Pending: Z 711083;1402369219;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00085513 = 5.0786 BTC [-] 711084;1402369221;mircea_popescu;i think your talking about bitbet is incidental to what it'll actually do. 711085;1402369269;TheNewDeal;well of course 711086;1402369310;TheNewDeal;but if they're bets are going to be a large portion of the gains/losses, it seems like investors would want to know what their history has been on the bets 711087;1402369334;TheNewDeal;the way its reported now is just obscure 711088;1402369364;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: TheNewDeal Were you trying to trade Bastille Day bet Exposure yesterday? 711089;1402369381;TheNewDeal;yes 711090;1402369395;TheNewDeal;I have bets on Yes , and I would still like to trade exposure 711091;1402369413;TheNewDeal;bitcoinpete picked up a mere .1 BTC when I am looking for more 711092;1402369454;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: How do these arrangements work? Suppose I wanted to trade some of my no for your yes, how do we price these? 711093;1402369467;TheNewDeal;oh I don 711094;1402369472;TheNewDeal;I don't want any of your no :D 711095;1402369510;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Supposed you did, because we were both looking to hedge. How would this trade work? 711096;1402369518;TheNewDeal;the trade would work like this 711097;1402369533;TheNewDeal;you would give a amount, say 1 BTC, and we would tack on a timeweight to it 711098;1402369561;TheNewDeal;so you would send me 1 btc, and receive X timeweight 711099;1402369570;TheNewDeal;that I would pay out to your address 711100;1402369626;TheNewDeal;does that make any sense? 711101;1402369655;TheNewDeal;timeweight would be agreed upon beforehand 711102;1402369688;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Sure. That's about half of the question's answer. What of instead of BTC for positions the trade was positions for positions? 711103;1402369739;TheNewDeal;thats possible. I have 5.6 total BTC in for a timeweight of ~197,000. Care to share what you're trying to trade? 711104;1402369747;mircea_popescu; but if they're bets are going to be a large portion of the gains/losses, it seems like investors would want to know what their history has been on the bets << you know investors can readily revbiew this as they're all published 711105;1402369759;mircea_popescu;so far the house is ahead, mike_c did the math recently. 711106;1402369779;mircea_popescu;!up pgrewr 711107;1402369804;mike_c;well, house bets are ahead. the house isn't because it gives away half the bets. 711108;1402369809;TheNewDeal;MP, but recently they have upped the amounts they bet, by a large amoutn 711109;1402369810;TheNewDeal;correct? 711110;1402369846;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal not afaik 711111;1402369854;mircea_popescu;mike_c right. 711112;1402369900;TheNewDeal;hmmm I'm going to have to do some research. thought I read something that said they were upping the amount of BTC bet 711113;1402369910;TheNewDeal;perhaps it was around the time MPIF came about? 711114;1402369947;pgrewr;homosexuals should be put to death 711115;1402369948;mircea_popescu;always been .1 711116;1402369950;mircea_popescu;tis in th faq 711117;1402369953;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Well, let's not reveal the particular bet since we are miming what making such a deal would look like and Assume I have this position http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/#b39 And would like to swap half of the balance for a favorably priced yes position. 711118;1402369953;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 112.84 B (85%) on Yes, 19.55 B (15%) on No | closing in 3 days 20 hours | weight: 2`243 (100`000 to 1) 711119;1402370017;BingoBoingo;How do we go about pricing No at a weight TheNewDeal versus yes at a weight? 711120;1402370069;TheNewDeal;well it wouldn't really make too much sense for me financially, unless you had much more timeweight 711121;1402370102;TheNewDeal;i take that back 711122;1402370105;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: It could though which is why the pricing of these things and how to do it is so important. 711123;1402370120;TheNewDeal;let me do a quick calculation 711124;1402370139;mircea_popescu;!up Hoodmin 711125;1402370224;Hoodmin;Evenin coiners 711126;1402370236;BingoBoingo;Evening Hoodmin 711127;1402370342;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I'm curious, are you running Bitbet.py? 711128;1402370344;asciilifeform;pgrewr: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9831727/Iran-unveils-finger-amputating-machine-for-use-on-thieves.html << adapt for your application 711129;1402370345;assbot;Iran unveils finger amputating machine for use on thieves - Telegraph 711130;1402370353;TheNewDeal;no 711131;1402370373;TheNewDeal;what is bitbet.py? 711132;1402370418;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Do you have a more interesting tool for calculating Bitbet outcomes then? 711133;1402370474;TheNewDeal;i use excel or simply Calculator 711134;1402370488;mike_c;i do :) i should clean up some of my scripts and publish them sometime.. 711135;1402370499;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/is-bitbet-us-buggy.86712/#post-1492473 711136;1402370499;assbot;Is bitbet.us buggy? | Bitcointa.lk 711137;1402370513;TheNewDeal;;;calc 16.3/678*112.8+.99*1 711138;1402370514;gribble;3.70185840708 711139;1402370518;TheNewDeal;not too hard 711140;1402370528;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: It's a simple tool. You past in the lines from bitbet and get the whole thing laid out. 711141;1402370545;mike_c;old skool. it should grab the json. 711142;1402370565;mike_c;blech. i feel another bitbet blog post coming on. 711143;1402370572;BingoBoingo;Well, it is a relic of BitBet's earlier days 711144;1402370586;TheNewDeal;ill definitely check it out 711145;1402370603;TheNewDeal;but it's easy enough for me to quickly find the payout of one or two bets 711146;1402370661;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Yeah, but I usually like to survey the whole field at once. Creates a real appreciation of time weight 711147;1402370678;TheNewDeal;touche 711148;1402370727;BingoBoingo;Helps you identify interesting bettors as well 711149;1402370784;TheNewDeal;besides the point 711150;1402370810;TheNewDeal;the maximum i stand to make on my yes prop is 1.25 btc with 5.6 bet (assuming no more NO bets come) 711151;1402370896;TheNewDeal;if I purchased your whole position, I would make 3.78% on yes, or lose 28.8 percent 711152;1402370961;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Assume we are hedgine and trading smaller amounts. Who would we price deciBitcoin portions of each position. 711153;1402370973;TheNewDeal;let's say I were to send you a fraction of a BTC (let's say a half) on the no bet. Would you consider giving me a larger timeweight than what you have bet at? 711154;1402371176;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I'd actually be more interested in swapping a fraction of the no for a fraction of the Yes. If we are trading Bitcoin against the position... I'd maybe be interested in offering a bit of extra timeweight. 711155;1402371216;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: why silver is the white metal everyone seems to horde and not gallium << Ga is typically found in bauxite, so it had to wait for cheap Al refinement. 711156;1402371250;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That explains the problem historically, but not why it persists. 711157;1402371305;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: in principle, it would make a pretty good 'low tech testable' precious metal. simply determine melting point. 711158;1402371322;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/food-para-comer/ 711159;1402371324;TheNewDeal;My position will currently pay out 1.22 per 1 invested, but I have like 4X more invested, so it doesn't make much sense to buy a small fraction 711160;1402371365;BingoBoingo;Indeed more testable. 711161;1402371580;BingoBoingo;;;calc 3.70185840708*0.5 711162;1402371581;gribble;1.85092920354 711163;1402372046;thestringpuller;!mpif 711164;1402372048;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021706 BTC (Total: 434.13 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 711165;1402372099;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I'm thinking rather than adjusting time weight which could create a bit of a pickle if a lot of large late betting acticity swoops in we consider the matter of pricing a 0.5 stake in terms of the premium or discount applied to 0.5 BTC to purchase it. 711166;1402372132;[]bot;Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 474.9239018 BTC. Current weight: 45,777. 711167;1402372133;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC worth over $5000 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/716/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 13.25076814 BTC. Current weight: 54,957. 711168;1402372149;TheNewDeal;first off, I don't think there will be any late bettors here 711169;1402372164;TheNewDeal;secondly, if there are, it will only help my position 711170;1402372183;TheNewDeal;the yes pays less than half a percent at 1 btc 711171;1402372230;BingoBoingo;No one ever anticipates snackman... 711172;1402372248;cazalla;http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pensioners-lose-savings-in-government-cash-grab-20140609-39t7p.html save money in australia for longer than 3 years and you get your shit ganked 711173;1402372249;assbot;Pensioners lose savings in government cash grab 711174;1402372255;TheNewDeal;we could definitely swap, but I don't see how it would help you out 711175;1402372267;TheNewDeal;yes timeweight pays out not so much 711176;1402372320;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: So for 0.5 BTC of my no stake you would pay 0.? BTC 711177;1402372440;TheNewDeal;that doesn't work out for me 711178;1402372510;BingoBoingo;Ah, so what works again? You want to pay ? for a stake with the timeweight adjusted upwards? Wouldn't it be easier to adjust the price paid or the portion of the stake purchased? 711179;1402372520;TheNewDeal;let me go over an example scenario 711180;1402372534;TheNewDeal;if I were to purchase .33 BTC at 30K timeweight 711181;1402372590;TheNewDeal;for me I would be winning 10% on my investment of 5.9 BTC on YES, or returning 27% of that investment on no 711182;1402372633;TheNewDeal;you on the other hand, would bring in 1.06 BTC for an investment of (1-.33 = .67 btc) 711183;1402372639;TheNewDeal;for NO 711184;1402372820;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: re: metals: in practice, metals for which demand is almost entirely industrial make poor 'trading sardines' 711185;1402372848;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: see kodak/silver relationship for example. 711186;1402372890;TheNewDeal;I've got to go get some food before the bar closes 711187;1402372895;TheNewDeal;ill be back in an hour or so 711188;1402372895;BingoBoingo;And lets say at 16`367 you spent .33 to purchase 0.5, 0.6 or whatever on No (In case miners betting late on No make covering the offer at a higher weight a challenge, Spz. No becomes obvious and a member of the math challenged drops 1000 BTC on No) 711189;1402372925;TheNewDeal;No is most definitely not obvious 711190;1402372936;TheNewDeal;Yes is the most likely scenario 711191;1402372983;BingoBoingo;Ah, it closes in ~4 days. 711192;1402372993;TheNewDeal;close doesn't really matter to us 711193;1402373008;TheNewDeal;i dont think bets are going to be made 711194;1402373016;BingoBoingo;Well it keeps people from betting when the outcome might be obvious. 711195;1402373016;TheNewDeal;even if they are made, they are not going to be large ones 711196;1402373098;BingoBoingo;I'll think on this a bit. 711197;1402373147;TheNewDeal;sounds good 711198;1402373345;thestringpuller;COOKIES 711199;1402373896;smickles;mircea_popescu: over 4bill in assets which are easily valued 711200;1402373916;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00085527 = 0.5987 BTC [+] 711201;1402373919;smickles;easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs 711202;1402374465;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 672 @ 0.00085513 = 0.5746 BTC [-] 711203;1402377942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.072075 = 0.2883 BTC [-] {2} 711204;1402377943;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085326 = 2.7304 BTC [-] 711205;1402377963;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Here's the present output from BitBet.py on the Bastille Day Bet http://dpaste.com/1Y574AF/ 711206;1402377963;assbot;dpaste: 1Y574AF: Bastille day Output 711207;1402377999;*;BingoBoingo missed some lines on initial entry and tacked them on at the end. 711208;1402378171;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I think something about the math you presented for your example is wrong. 711209;1402378346;BingoBoingo;As an example of fresh bet of .33 BTC on No returns the line [ 52] No 30000 0.33000000 1.93420100 1.60420100 covering 32.8% of your 5.9 BTC stake. 711210;1402378674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00085485 = 10.5377 BTC [+] {3} 711211;1402378951;TheNewDeal;bingoboingo you still on? 711212;1402378960;BingoBoingo;Still online 711213;1402378994;TheNewDeal;niiiice 711214;1402379042;TheNewDeal;i've been pondering over some calculations 711215;1402379065;BingoBoingo;Selling a .33 stake at 30,000 weight for.33 BTC isn't going to be feasible. 711216;1402379099;TheNewDeal;one I was thinking of was buying .25 stake at 50k weight 711217;1402379128;TheNewDeal;;;calc (16.3-.25*50)/(678)*112.8 711218;1402379128;gribble;0.632212389381 711219;1402379146;TheNewDeal;;;calc ((16.3-.25*50)/(678)*112.8)/(1-.25) 711220;1402379147;gribble;0.842949852507 711221;1402379160;TheNewDeal;return of 84% for you 711222;1402379178;TheNewDeal;which would be drastically reduced from the 370%+ you have now 711223;1402379215;BingoBoingo;Looks like [ 53] No 50000 0.25000000 2.24095491 1.99095491 when added through BitBet.py 711224;1402379236;TheNewDeal;what are the last two columns? 711225;1402379253;BingoBoingo;The last two are return and then profit. 711226;1402379324;TheNewDeal;ok 711227;1402379359;TheNewDeal;;;calc ((16.3-.25*50)/(678)*112.8) 711228;1402379359;gribble;0.632212389381 711229;1402379390;TheNewDeal;if I send .25 btc to you representing 50k timeweight you would win .63 btc on No 711230;1402379412;TheNewDeal;that's probably undesireable then? 711231;1402379420;BingoBoingo;Very undesirable. 711232;1402379448;TheNewDeal;then I think we're both stuck to the waiting game 711233;1402379516;BingoBoingo;I might be amenable to .33 BTC at 25000 weight... the line looks like No 25000 0.33000000 1.65041127 1.32041127 711234;1402379561;TheNewDeal;the thing is I have to take in my whole stake 711235;1402379611;TheNewDeal;;;calc (197/2937)*(19.5)-.33 711236;1402379611;gribble;0.977967313585 711237;1402379619;TheNewDeal;;;calc (197/2937)*(19.5)-.33/(5.6+.33) 711238;1402379620;gribble;1.25231807244 711239;1402379638;TheNewDeal;;;calc ((197/2937)*(19.5)-.33)/(5.6+.33) 711240;1402379638;gribble;0.164918602628 711241;1402379669;TheNewDeal;;;calc (.33*25/678)*112.8 711242;1402379669;gribble;1.37256637168 711243;1402379686;TheNewDeal;;;calc ((.33*25/678)*112.8)/(5.6+.33) 711244;1402379686;gribble;0.231461445477 711245;1402379742;TheNewDeal;;;calc ((16.3-.33*25)/678)*112.8 711246;1402379742;gribble;1.3392920354 711247;1402379762;TheNewDeal;;;calc (((16.3-.33*25)/678)*112.8)/(1-.33) 711248;1402379762;gribble;1.99894333642 711249;1402379771;TheNewDeal;hmmm 711250;1402379803;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: The Bitbet.py numbers are a bit off for these new bets because it figures the new sum into the No pile. 711251;1402379820;TheNewDeal;I'm not using bitbet.py 711252;1402379832;TheNewDeal;I'm using the current no and yes totals 711253;1402379833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0189761 = 0.3795 BTC [-] 711254;1402379921;TheNewDeal;my return would be 16.5% on yes, -77% no 711255;1402379942;TheNewDeal;;;calc 77/16.5 711256;1402379943;gribble;4.66666666667 711257;1402380095;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I think you might be trying to complicate this thing more than it needs to be complicated. 711258;1402380134;TheNewDeal;arithmetic doesn't phase me 711259;1402380174;TheNewDeal;heres the thing 711260;1402380188;TheNewDeal;you bet later than i did, and on the less probable outcome (in my opinion) 711261;1402380211;TheNewDeal;so I really only have incentive to offer you less return to reduce your loss 711262;1402380272;TheNewDeal;and i'm trying to figure out exactly how much would reduce your return and also mitigate my losses in case of some rare event 711263;1402380321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.072 = 0.216 BTC [-] 711264;1402380436;BingoBoingo;Ah, there's the problem. We're looking at different things. You have a large stake in a probable bet, and I'm willing to offer a hedge so you can avoid a total loss. I'd be willing to unload part of my position, but... I am not an insurance company. 711265;1402380443;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7782 @ 0.00085435 = 6.6486 BTC [-] {2} 711266;1402380469;TheNewDeal;so let's say we wait 1 week 711267;1402380484;TheNewDeal;how do you think the outcome will look? 711268;1402380535;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Maybe we wait a week. At the moment I think it looks like a bit like your side is more likely, but it is close to a coin flip. 711269;1402380551;TheNewDeal;no way it's a coin flip~ 711270;1402380564;BingoBoingo;I think it is close. 711271;1402380572;TheNewDeal;the network has to average around 6% over 3 diff changes 711272;1402380573;BingoBoingo;Summer is coming and heat kills miners 711273;1402380586;BingoBoingo;And I only thing we are getting two changes 711274;1402380650;BingoBoingo;Last one might even go backwards 711275;1402380799;TheNewDeal;that's too far out to predict for me 711276;1402380833;BingoBoingo;I think it is going to be hard to add enough hashpower these next 34 days to keep up with dying equiptment and raise the difficulty all that much. 711277;1402380899;TheNewDeal;6% over three changes is mincemeat 711278;1402380921;BingoBoingo;I just don't think we are getting that third change. 711279;1402380922;TheNewDeal;the last time there was a 6% change was ? 711280;1402380941;BingoBoingo;It's been a while 711281;1402381021;TheNewDeal;if we have 3 changes that take 13 days 711282;1402381034;TheNewDeal;we will still sneak in 711283;1402381064;TheNewDeal;this year it has typically taken 12.66 days per change 711284;1402381082;TheNewDeal;there's a lot of fudge room 711285;1402381421;TheNewDeal;i've gotta get some sleep here 711286;1402381433;TheNewDeal;long drive tomorrow 711287;1402381443;BingoBoingo;Sleep well then. 711288;1402381458;TheNewDeal;gnight 711289;1402382015;BingoBoingo;Sigh, I guess I'm going to have to explain how this longshots thing works... 711290;1402382395;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.072 = 0.36 BTC [-] 711291;1402382419;punkman;BingoBoingo: what does your crystal ball say about http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ 711292;1402382419;assbot;BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.25 B (24%) on Yes, 7.05 B (76%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 51`392 (100`000 to 1) 711293;1402382687;BingoBoingo;punkman: Well considering ATC alternates between difficulty periods that take 4 days and those that take... much longer... No seems like a safe bet, but too safe. 711294;1402382701;punkman;that's why I went with Yes :P 711295;1402382768;BingoBoingo;Understandable. 711296;1402382815;punkman;I'm wondering if it will make sense for the Yes side to rent some extra hashing power at certain points 711297;1402382834;BingoBoingo;If the pot gets big enough. 711298;1402382874;punkman;you'd also make ATC to offset the costs 711299;1402382944;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14691 @ 0.00085515 = 12.563 BTC [+] {2} 711300;1402382957;BingoBoingo;Indeed. The most profitable move in ATC might be to bet large on yes, wait for people to match it and then add 1TH/s a week to ATC's baseline hashpower until the bet resolves. 711301;1402382959;punkman;BingoBoingo: is there a log of ATC diff changes somewhere? 711302;1402382982;BingoBoingo;Maybe blockr.io? 711303;1402383021;punkman;I don't see one 711304;1402383044;BingoBoingo;You may have to make one 711305;1402383493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07133337 = 0.856 BTC [-] {4} 711306;1402383554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 96 @ 0.07060759 = 6.7783 BTC [-] {9} 711307;1402383737;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6626 @ 0.00085204 = 5.6456 BTC [-] 711308;1402384376;jurov;;;bc,stats 711309;1402384379;gribble;Current Blocks: 305073 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1358 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12239240125.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.1057 711310;1402385511;BingoBoingo;OMG look at the review of everything that doesn't matter in an OS http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/xubuntu-14-04-released/ 711311;1402385512;assbot;Xubuntu 14.04 Released | Delightly Linux 711312;1402385654;punkman;new icons !!!11! 711313;1402385681;punkman;that trash can definitely needs more work 711314;1402385702;fluffypony;yeah it's decidedly un-Apple 711315;1402385709;fluffypony;they should just pay for Apple people to work for them 711316;1402385712;fluffypony;but for free 711317;1402385715;fluffypony;because OSS 711318;1402385967;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Done right XFCE looks much better than OSx 711319;1402385981;fluffypony;such iconography 711320;1402385985;fluffypony;much transparency 711321;1402385985;fluffypony;wow 711322;1402386274;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Right looks something like https://unsee.cc/doparine/ 711323;1402386274;assbot;Unsee — Free online private photo sharing 711324;1402386309;fluffypony;if I didn't know any better I would say that's OS X Guhurkagurkle 711325;1402386352;BingoBoingo;It's what makes sense on a widescree portable 711326;1402386482;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0241695 = 0.4834 BTC [+] 711327;1402386596;BingoBoingo;Why have panels taking up scarce space at the top or bottom when they can go on the side (one of the things Unity got right) 711328;1402386787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.0718 = 1.5078 BTC [+] 711329;1402386816;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 711330;1402386822;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 657.26, vol: 6171.06625581 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.99, vol: 4195.29581 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 664.5, vol: 6387.94177976 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 655.0, vol: 21.77758049 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 660.501105, vol: 4167.50820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 657.71523, vol: 4.62546371 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 665.967224, vol: 66.67940545 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 711331;1402386830;pankkake;tradition. because computers weren't in the broken 16:9 ratio 711332;1402387013;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Amazing how persistent these things can be. 711333;1402387250;pankkake;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/06/09/2229236/nsf-researcher-suspended-for-mining-bitcoin 711334;1402387251;assbot;NSF Researcher Suspended For Mining Bitcoin - Slashdot 711335;1402387264;pankkake;$150,000 worth of NSF-supported computer use at the two universities to generate bitcoins worth about $8,000 to $10,000 711336;1402388373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2227051 BTC [-] 711337;1402389773;jurov;BingoBoingo asciilifeform according to pediwikia gallium is incredibly sticky and messy once it melts, and rather poisonous...so, no chains nor cutlery 711338;1402389868;jurov;so it'd be best stored in glass containers..and how do you ascertain it wasn't amalgamated with mercury or such? 711339;1402389940;jurov;oh btw it also soaks readily into other metals and weakens them 711340;1402390337;davout;http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/0cb9ba2e-efcc-11e3-bee7-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz34DITpSFv 711341;1402390337;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 711342;1402390370;davout;do i read this one correctly or is euronext valued somewhere around a fifth of whatsapp 711343;1402390375;davout;or 2/3 of snapchat 711344;1402390447;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0711 = 0.4977 BTC [-] 711345;1402391667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1351 @ 0.000353 = 0.4769 BTC [-] {4} 711346;1402391911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0712 = 0.2136 BTC [+] 711347;1402392582;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 89 @ 0.002 = 0.178 BTC 711348;1402392951;jurov;http://ccsinjection.lepidum.co.jp/blog/2014-06-05/CCS-Injection-en/index.html 711349;1402392951;assbot;How I discovered CCS Injection Vulnerability (CVE-2014-0224) - OpenSSL #ccsinjection Vulnerability 711350;1402393004;jurov;;;later tell mircea_popescu not upgrading will not help in all cases: http://ccsinjection.lepidum.co.jp/blog/2014-06-05/CCS-Injection-en/index.html 711351;1402393004;assbot;How I discovered CCS Injection Vulnerability (CVE-2014-0224) - OpenSSL #ccsinjection Vulnerability 711352;1402393004;gribble;The operation succeeded. 711353;1402393056;jurov;apparently nobody has deeper knowledge of the tls protocol 711354;1402393212;nkuttler;joesmoe: !up works for me 711355;1402393228;pankkake;!up Bobby_Lee 711356;1402393236;nkuttler;!up joesmoe 711357;1402393241;nkuttler;there 711358;1402393247;joesmoe;you're doing that toa ssbot in PM right? 711359;1402393249;joesmoe;i'm trying that but getting no reply. 711360;1402393260;pankkake;it replies in a notice 711361;1402393269;joesmoe;ahhhh maybe i'm not getting these notices because of BNC 711362;1402393314;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00085684 = 3.8558 BTC [+] 711363;1402393318;nkuttler;joesmoe: you should sort it out, my !up is only for 30 minutes 711364;1402393325;joesmoe;yeah i know 711365;1402393343;joesmoe;anybody have any information on how to use assbot? Do I have to be auth'd with gribble with GPG or can i be bc authd? 711366;1402393349;joesmoe;i've never setup GPG with gribble 711367;1402393363;joesmoe;11:36] joesmoe: ;;whoami 711368;1402393363;joesmoe;[11:36] gribble: I don't recognize you. 711369;1402393398;davout;;;google trilema assets +m 711370;1402393398;gribble;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely ... - Trilema: ; Ca tot… sa tras tot sa fumat tot sa baut tot cum e peste tot ... - Trilema: reading and writing are rapidly becoming lost arts < even though more words gets written and read than ever before each day 711457;1402400255;chetty;write yes, not so sure about read 711458;1402400323;[]bot;Bet placed: 15.25523358 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 490.17913538 BTC. Current weight: 45,685. 711459;1402400403;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/bet/567/simona-halep-to-win-roland-garros/#c3022 haha 711460;1402400404;assbot;BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros :: 1.03 B (14%) on Yes, 6.22 B (86%) on No | closed 2 weeks 1 day ago 711461;1402401305;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7935 @ 0.00085227 = 6.7628 BTC [-] 711462;1402401442;kakobrekla;oh wow, someone took a dump in propositions 711463;1402401663;jurov;Upcoming availability: bitcoin.dating bitcoin.partners bitcoin.productions 711464;1402401761;jurov;i like it.. but... 147,44 eur? 711465;1402401761;kakobrekla;cant they make it any longer 711466;1402401769;jurov;the .partners 711467;1402401818;kakobrekla;just buy .bit and kill namecoin 711468;1402401871;jurov;.bit is 4sale? 711469;1402401883;jurov;One or more of the domain names in your order contain a registered trademark. DAFUQ 711470;1402401901;jurov;bitcoin is registered trademark nao 711471;1402401908;kakobrekla;lol 711472;1402401921;kakobrekla;do buttcoin then 711473;1402401947;jurov;buttcoin.partners? 711474;1402402004;kakobrekla;legit 711475;1402402184;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/KKu38Xr.jpg 711476;1402402208;punkman;branded night... 711477;1402402258;jurov;btc.democrat Available 711478;1402402314;jurov;btc.fail Available (anyone? - but still in sunrise) 711479;1402402343;jurov;kakobrekla: you should apply for .milk 711480;1402402374;kakobrekla;hehe 711481;1402402594;punkman;god, so many of them http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/statistics 711482;1402402595;assbot;Program Statistics | ICANN New gTLDs 711483;1402402614;punkman;i guess google is gonna love it 711484;1402402792;danielpbarron;Namecoin is more than .bit; .bit is just the d/ namespace 711485;1402402813;kakobrekla;d/ ? 711486;1402402859;danielpbarron;if you register the name d/kakobrekla it will corespond to kakobrekla.bit 711487;1402402889;danielpbarron;you could instead register id/kakobrekla and it won't give you a .bit, but something else 711488;1402402910;kakobrekla;who issues tlds there 711489;1402402927;danielpbarron;nobody; i think you could make up your own as long as you write the interface for it 711490;1402402934;kakobrekla;aha 711491;1402402963;danielpbarron;there could be a g/ for gribble usernames, or if g/ is already used, gribble/ 711492;1402403028;danielpbarron;i might be using the wrong slash; it's been a while 711493;1402403038;punkman;is .bit reserved by ICANN or something? no applications for it 711494;1402403045;danielpbarron;punkman, nope 711495;1402403065;danielpbarron;you have to hack your settings to get .bit domains to resolve 711496;1402403075;punkman;yeah I know 711497;1402403076;danielpbarron;(why nobody uses it) 711498;1402403196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [-] 711499;1402403261;punkman;wouldn't be nice to have to change everything if .bit gets sold 711500;1402403278;punkman;I guess .onions are in the same boat though 711501;1402403361;kakobrekla;namecoin should prolly be a browser extension at this point 711502;1402403383;Apocalyptic;they have one afaik 711503;1402403444;punkman;do they have something more low level? so you don't need a plugin for every app 711504;1402403501;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6657 @ 0.00085715 = 5.706 BTC [+] 711505;1402403508;danielpbarron;there is a radio host who got obsessed with Namecoin for a time, and caused a couple applications to get written: FreeSpeechMe, and MeowBit 711506;1402403526;jurov;punkman there's .dot-bit.org or such 711507;1402403543;danielpbarron;freespeechme is a firefox plugin; meowbit is a windows-only system-wide thing 711508;1402403558;danielpbarron;but he got tired of Namecoin and is shilling for bitshares now 711509;1402403567;Apocalyptic;heh 711510;1402403638;danielpbarron;actually lately he hasn't really mentioned crypto-stuff at all, which is good; I was giving him a hard time for this stuff on twitter 711511;1402403745;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23534 @ 0.00085203 = 20.0517 BTC [-] {2} 711512;1402403829;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg7231252#msg7231252 at least the whole thing made someone smarter. not sure about the rest of them though 711513;1402403829;assbot;[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] 711514;1402403854;pankkake;danielpbarron: i've seen a few of those cases; overly enthusiastic towards things they don't fully understand 711515;1402403867;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 601 @ 0.00206714 = 1.2424 BTC [+] {2} 711516;1402403942;jurov;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-03/retailers-use-big-data-to-turn-you-into-a-big-spender.html 711517;1402403942;assbot;Retailers Use Big Data to Turn You Into a Big Spender - Bloomberg 711518;1402403955;jurov;so they just send you stuff and expect you to eventually pay later? 711519;1402403968;jurov;dare they try in eastern eu 711520;1402404055;fluffypony;!up drawingthesun 711521;1402404066;fluffypony;;;get trust drawingthesun 711522;1402404066;gribble;Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". 711523;1402404069;fluffypony;;;gettrust drawingthesun 711524;1402404069;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user drawingthesun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=drawingthesun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=drawingthesun | Rated since: never 711525;1402404075;drawingthesun;Hey 711526;1402404083;fluffypony;drawingthesun: you need to get in the WoT 711527;1402404108;fluffypony;because you don't have to read months and months worth of threads 711528;1402404115;drawingthesun;haha 711529;1402404115;fluffypony;you just have to be here and read the conversation 711530;1402404134;fluffypony;pretty much every security ever has been covered at length 711531;1402404171;drawingthesun;I shudder to think what people have said about ActiveMining here 711532;1402404172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0257 = 0.257 BTC [+] 711533;1402404233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02577 = 0.2577 BTC [+] 711534;1402404235;fluffypony;heh 711535;1402404254;fluffypony;;;google ken slaughter site:log.bitcoin-assets.com 711536;1402404255;gribble;NEXT: 09-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 26-07-2013 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 09-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: 711537;1402404308;pankkake;the logs are public but I don't remember that much 711538;1402404321;pankkake;actually there might have been a year ago, when I wasn't very active 711539;1402404328;jurov;21:33:19 pankkake:so… investors are going to make a KILLING 711540;1402404338;jurov;from one of above links 711541;1402404340;jurov;lol 711542;1402404355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02578 = 0.2578 BTC [+] 711543;1402404357;drawingthesun;pankkake, haha how are you going? 711544;1402404381;pankkake;I'm ok. I guess. lol 711545;1402404398;pankkake;jurov: I didn't even understand my joke at first 711546;1402404416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.02579999 = 0.3354 BTC [+] 711547;1402404424;kakobrekla;o yea now i get it too. 711548;1402404431;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3GXVEW6.txt ) 711549;1402404431;jurov;!b 2 711550;1402404477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.0259999 = 1.04 BTC [+] {2} 711551;1402404531;jurov;there's laughter in every slaughter 711552;1402404538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.02659999 = 0.5586 BTC [+] {2} 711553;1402404555;fluffypony;lol 711554;1402404579;kakobrekla;slander 711555;1402404722;fluffypony;now you too can own a piece of an Australian hair salon 711556;1402404750;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646708.0 711557;1402404750;assbot;[ANN] Klippt -Bitcoin IPO - Limited shares, dividends paid quarterly. 711558;1402404776;drawingthesun;what do you lot think about NEMstake on Nxt asset exchange? Anyone following NEM development? 711559;1402404819;kakobrekla;the investors will make a KLIPPING 711560;1402404822;pankkake;is it a vietnamese restaurant? 711561;1402404832;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/110W3NF.txt ) 711562;1402404832;fluffypony;!b 3 711563;1402404851;fluffypony;needs moar context in the bash, ah well 711564;1402404852;pankkake;oh klippt is like a word play on "clip"? 711565;1402404860;kakobrekla;ya 711566;1402404862;fluffypony;pankkake: it's apparently Swedish for haircut or something 711567;1402404874;fluffypony;http://www.klippt.com.au/ipod.pdf 711568;1402404887;pankkake;French hair salons love word plays in their names. it's ridiculous 711569;1402404922;davout;"there's laughter in every slaughter" <<< thank you, if that was the joke, i get it too nao 711570;1402404933;kakobrekla;lol 711571;1402404949;davout;but if it wasn't, such shame 711572;1402405026;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0268 = 0.268 BTC [+] 711573;1402405029;thestringpuller;Damn the US fucked everything up for Bitcoin users here. 711574;1402405047;fluffypony;did they ban China? 711575;1402405063;davout;bitcoin banned china again? 711576;1402405095;fluffypony;BitChina banned coin 711577;1402405135;thestringpuller;The cost of liquidity is too high for most vendors... 711578;1402405149;thestringpuller;Coinbase wants 1% which is pretty much what most niggas pay for CC processing 711579;1402405156;thestringpuller;Bitpay wants fucking 2 711580;1402405162;fluffypony;now is the time to move away from liquidity and go towards solidity 711581;1402405165;thestringpuller;And it's on the low side of the bid 711582;1402405173;fluffypony;thestringpuller: Bitpay is 1% on starter, else $30/month no fees 711583;1402405231;davout;"1% which is pretty much what most niggas pay for CC processing" <<< it really depends 711584;1402405232;thestringpuller;so they finally are doing flat fees 711585;1402405253;pankkake;I don't know many who have only 1% for CC 711586;1402405260;pankkake;or no monthly fee 711587;1402405266;davout;pankkake: it's usually lower in france 711588;1402405269;thestringpuller;I guess I'm just bitter since back in the day I could buy BTC pretty much at market price with 0.5% in fees. 711589;1402405295;pankkake;really? perhaps I've only seen higher rates but maybe banks like to fuck small businesses 711590;1402405300;davout;the fees can explode depending on your business and your fraud profile 711591;1402405310;pankkake;oh 711592;1402405321;los_pantalones;thestringpuller what is market rate? 711593;1402405331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.217161 = 1.0858 BTC [-] {3} 711594;1402405332;davout;gambling & porn is usually > 6% i hear 711595;1402405367;fluffypony;thestringpuller: yeah, they've been doing flat pricing for a while already - https://bitpay.com/pricing 711596;1402405368;assbot;Pricing | BitPay 711597;1402405376;fluffypony;$30/month gives you up to $10k daily 711598;1402405379;thestringpuller;yea i just looked 711599;1402405388;thestringpuller;;;calc 30 /10000 711600;1402405388;gribble;0.003 711601;1402405391;thestringpuller;not bad 711602;1402405405;davout;fluffypony: it's not really flat -> Up to $100,000 daily 711603;1402405429;thestringpuller;i'd rather just have a continuous supplier like a miner I can just pay 711604;1402405435;thestringpuller;i want to migrate my fiat income stream into bitcoin 711605;1402405442;thestringpuller;but it costs too much! 711606;1402405445;xmj;thestringpuller: have you looked into coinvoice? 711607;1402405450;davout;thestringpuller: what is it you're doing ? 711608;1402405457;fluffypony;davout: apparently even their Enterprise packages for > $100k daily are flat fee and not % 711609;1402405475;thestringpuller;my business runs in fiat and I want to migrate the operating revenue into btc 711610;1402405498;davout;well, why don't they give a price then ? 711611;1402405498;los_pantalones;thestringpuller what rate do you think is market rate? 711612;1402405521;davout;thestringpuller: that i got, wasn't the question tho :) 711613;1402405551;los_pantalones;i could sell you btc every day, settle net 7 or net 15 711614;1402405559;thestringpuller;lol davout i've been developing a cookie company but we want to migrate our profits into btc 711615;1402405561;los_pantalones;but i want to know what you think the going price is 711616;1402405580;thestringpuller;;;ticker 711617;1402405581;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 647.37, Best ask: 650.21, Bid-ask spread: 2.84000, Last trade: 650.21, 24 hour volume: 7067.58768279, 24 hour low: 641.01, 24 hour high: 657.41, 24 hour vwap: 649.718914435 711618;1402405595;los_pantalones;so you think bitstamp is the market rate ? 711619;1402405599;los_pantalones;where are you located ? 711620;1402405604;thestringpuller;US 711621;1402405607;thestringpuller;here it's a bit higher 711622;1402405609;davout;fluffypony: if it's $30 for < $10,000/day, $300 for < $100k, $3000 for < $1mn that's still a percentage 711623;1402405612;thestringpuller;think Coinbase is 656 711624;1402405624;fluffypony;davout: ah I see what you mean 711625;1402405625;davout;it just has a 0,3% floor 711626;1402405647;los_pantalones;so you would like to pay coinbase daily ? 711627;1402405654;los_pantalones;or you think that is too high ? 711628;1402405687;davout;thestringpuller: oic, weren't you supposed to send me a cookie for some reason i forgot? 711629;1402405704;davout;:D 711630;1402405711;los_pantalones;company i work for provides btc liquidity to businesses, we settle net 7 or net 15 711631;1402405713;los_pantalones;if you are interested 711632;1402405801;thestringpuller;yea davout we are in R&D got held up. the chef is going to bonnaroo this week. Took me a lot to train him. 711633;1402405811;thestringpuller;should be a semi colon after R&D 711634;1402405843;thestringpuller;My lawyer was supposed to have me import/export papers on perhishables by now too... 711635;1402405859;thestringpuller;fluffypony informed me yesterday of the harsh import laws 711636;1402405886;pankkake;just sell your cookies on the darknets 711637;1402405907;fluffypony;lol 711638;1402405913;fluffypony;CookieRoad 711639;1402405945;thestringpuller;Don't they open packages at customs? 711640;1402405960;thestringpuller;I don't sell outside the US just sending you and MP cookies. 711641;1402405976;pankkake;if you write "electronics" they still it and claim it's lost, otherwise usually not 711642;1402405982;pankkake;steal* 711643;1402406002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7022 @ 0.00085125 = 5.9775 BTC [-] {3} 711644;1402406021;thestringpuller;France sounds annoying. 711645;1402406034;thestringpuller;Well their shipping practices. 711646;1402406063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2357051 BTC [+] 711647;1402406769;pankkake;shipping food *to* the US is the hard thing actually 711648;1402406856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0269 = 0.269 BTC [+] 711649;1402406917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 59 @ 0.02699994 = 1.593 BTC [+] {2} 711650;1402406978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 16 @ 0.0274875 = 0.4398 BTC [+] {2} 711651;1402407100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02779 = 0.5558 BTC [+] {2} 711652;1402407288;Blazedout419;must be some good news on Scrypt 711653;1402407405;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.02799 = 2.2392 BTC [+] 711654;1402407527;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.23797814 = 1.1899 BTC [+] {2} 711655;1402407710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02418799 = 0.1209 BTC [+] 711656;1402407771;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.028 = 0.168 BTC [+] 711657;1402407832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.024188 = 0.1209 BTC [+] 711658;1402407893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.02931666 = 0.8795 BTC [+] {2} 711659;1402408015;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02999798 = 0.15 BTC [+] 711660;1402408076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.029998 = 0.3 BTC [+] 711661;1402408137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02999999 = 0.15 BTC [+] 711662;1402408359;ThickAsThieves;<+fluffypony> ;;later tell ThickAsThieves congrats, ATC is on here - http://mapofcoins.com --- neat! back to lumberjacking... 711663;1402408359;assbot;Map of coins: the history of cryptocurrencies from bitcoin to dogecoin and more 711664;1402408503;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02437042 = 0.1462 BTC [+] 711665;1402408563;mircea_popescu;"The biggest reason why the bug hasnt been found for over 16 years is that code reviews were insufficient, especially from experts who had experiences with TLS/SSL implementation. " 711666;1402408569;mircea_popescu;fucking joke. 711667;1402408646;pankkake;mapofcoins is missing Bernankoin :( how do I submit? 711668;1402408755;mircea_popescu;madofcoins ? 711669;1402408811;pankkake;madoffcoins? 711670;1402408834;mircea_popescu;"allows man-in-the-middle attackers to trigger use of a zero-length master key" 711671;1402408880;mircea_popescu;you know, when i said the power rangers are too stupid to be on the internet and they said i'm just being evil, because they're about as smart as everyone else derping about "open source software" we were BOTH right 711672;1402408886;mircea_popescu;i didn't realise this at the time. 711673;1402408924;mircea_popescu;!up toddf 711674;1402408962;ThickAsThieves;<+thestringpuller> The cost of liquidity is too high for most vendors... //// Circle can eat their lunch if they play their cards right - things will start getting interesting when you can buy for zero fees 711675;1402408999;mircea_popescu;it's unavoidable. commodified market, players are of no particular valu 711676;1402409000;mircea_popescu;e 711677;1402409161;mike_c;zero fees = fees built into exchange rate. 711678;1402409169;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 711679;1402409174;gribble;Current Blocks: 305122 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1309 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 35 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12339676924.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.96 711680;1402409177;mircea_popescu;mike_c how so ? 711681;1402409200;mike_c;circle does as much as it can to hide the exchange rate when you buy (from watching video) 711682;1402409201;jurov;um a dude from @dc-data.com.cn wrote to me that some company named VOLKAN Tech Ltd. wants to register zillion coinbr.TLD domains 711683;1402409217;jurov;whether we authorized it 711684;1402409222;mike_c;and i'm sure they just a few points off for their own pockets. 711685;1402409224;jurov;i replied that no 711686;1402409226;mircea_popescu;jurov classical spam 711687;1402409226;mike_c;*shave 711688;1402409237;jurov;and he replied "okay, you should register them yourself" 711689;1402409245;jurov;so, not legit you say 711690;1402409246;mircea_popescu;mike_c trying to be paypal. except they won't be able to 711691;1402409256;mircea_popescu;paypal has this thing where govts prosecute its competition 711692;1402409261;mike_c;jurov: no. dime a dozen scam. i throw those out on a weekly basis 711693;1402409294;mircea_popescu;jurov one of the more common finds when i review my spamtraps 711694;1402409301;mike_c;i like better the scam where they just send you a bill 711695;1402409310;mike_c;in the hopes that a clueless worker bee will pay it. 711696;1402409314;jurov;ok, i got such for first time 711697;1402409361;mircea_popescu;mike_c kinda how circle's shaving points work 711698;1402409371;mircea_popescu;in the hopes a clueless buyer will just think a ok it's what itis 711699;1402409376;mike_c;yes 711700;1402409385;mike_c;zero fees! 711701;1402409406;pankkake;http://slashdot.org/story/14/06/10/0336202/godaddy-files-for-100-million-ipo 711702;1402409407;assbot;GoDaddy Files For $100 Million IPO - Slashdot 711703;1402409408;mike_c;anybody in here have an account and try it out? 711704;1402409426;mircea_popescu;wait what ? 711705;1402409435;mircea_popescu;godaddy 100mn after whatsapp 20bn ? are they insane ? 711706;1402409438;mircea_popescu;was it100bn ? 711707;1402409450;pankkake;GoDaddy hasn't made a profit since 2009. The company lost $279 million in 2012. It bled another $200 million last year. This year doesn't look much better, with another $51 million lost in the first quarter 711708;1402409458;pankkake;so, they're the twitter of domains 711709;1402409483;los_pantalones;how does godaddy lose money ? 711710;1402409483;los_pantalones;wtf 711711;1402409498;mike_c;that might be raising $100m, not the valuation 711712;1402409542;mike_c;"The company said it would raise $100 million, but that is just a placeholder until closer to the offering date." 711713;1402409578;xmj;godaddy throws money away on superbowls 711714;1402409597;los_pantalones;but that's maybe 10mm 711715;1402409597;ThickAsThieves;ticker should be GOD Y 711716;1402409650;asciilifeform;jurov: so it'd be best stored in glass containers..and how do you ascertain it wasn't amalgamated with mercury << there's the beauty. melting point. no way to fake Ga melting point and have anything like the density. 711717;1402409661;asciilifeform;jurov: and it can stay in the bottle. 711718;1402409662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.02854545 = 0.314 BTC [-] {2} 711719;1402409688;jurov;you can't easily measure the volume while it's inside the bottle 711720;1402409713;mircea_popescu;pankkake more of this fudingyou learned on btc forum i see. 711721;1402409718;asciilifeform;jurov: s/bottle/ampoule (full ampoule) 711722;1402409725;asciilifeform;measure like archimedes 711723;1402409731;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones by hiring uglychicks to weart its tshirt ? 711724;1402409750;xmj;waaat 711725;1402409827;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you sur e ? eutectic is a thing 711726;1402409850;jurov;if it's full one needs to solve the thermal expansion problem and still., also measuring the wall thickness accurately 711727;1402409869;mircea_popescu;jurov a glass bottle can't be full of a metal ffs. 711728;1402409885;jurov;too many things that can go bad.. i'm keeping my bricks, thanks 711729;1402409986;jurov;if you can design "datskovskiy's container" that solves all of above properly, maybe that will be the thing you'll be remembered for 711730;1402409998;jurov;not for some computer science masturbation 711731;1402410008;jurov;;) 711732;1402410009;asciilifeform;lol 711733;1402410042;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you can find me a eutectic solder that melts anywhere near 30C (but not liquid at room temp like Hg) i'll buy it right now. 711734;1402410054;asciilifeform;many useful applications. 711735;1402410067;mircea_popescu;but maybe the reason that ive not found it is that your buying doesn't compare with 8 millenia of trying to defraud the currency 711736;1402410073;asciilifeform;lol! 711737;1402410086;asciilifeform;there was something like wood's metal that did 80, i think 711738;1402410244;asciilifeform;at any rate, Hg has >2x the density of Ga. and the latter, unlike Hg, won't boil on a gas flame. 711739;1402410272;asciilifeform;so plenty of simple tests, once you pick a suitable container. 711740;1402410283;jurov;there are other amalgams not suitable as solder, but for faking gallium in closed container something can be certainly though of 711741;1402410288;jurov;*thought 711742;1402410334;jurov;just to remind, the whole discussion started about ease of handling/verification vs. gold/silver bricks 711743;1402410336;asciilifeform;the only reason no one would even try this crap is the point mentioned earlier (100% of present-day use is industrial, mostly as GaAs semiconductor, fluctuating demand) 711744;1402410356;mircea_popescu;more's the point, you've not had the benefit of manyyear's worth of having thought about what the people trying to fake it might have thought about 711745;1402410372;mircea_popescu;i think this problem is often misrepresented by all the young cocks starting new things. 711746;1402410377;asciilifeform;that's actually the part that intrigues me - how do we fake gallium 711747;1402410382;asciilifeform;because i could really use some 711748;1402410396;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the definityion of a fake is not being useful. 711749;1402410430;asciilifeform;well, 'fake' in this case is, achieve the melting point, with a well-conductive substance 711750;1402410442;asciilifeform;(incidentally ampoule could include electrodes for testing conductivity 711751;1402410445;asciilifeform;) 711752;1402410482;jurov;now that's something 711753;1402410509;mircea_popescu;prolly best so far, because you can measure resistance etc 711754;1402410511;asciilifeform;but in that case the ampoule could not be full. you must be able to tilt it, to expose electrode (perhaps a scammer simply placed a resistor there) 711755;1402410563;asciilifeform;of course, resistor could be trivially exposed with frequency sweep / bode plot (skin effect on Ga blob != impedence of ordinary resistor) 711756;1402410574;jurov;also one needs to verify there is no cavity or tungsten bar placed in the middle 711757;1402410586;asciilifeform;lol! jurov, look at periodic table 711758;1402410632;asciilifeform;but yes, people would at least try. so, contents of flask must pour freely. 711759;1402410636;asciilifeform;verify that liquid. 711760;1402410661;asciilifeform;ideal container would probably be a toroid, half-empty 711761;1402410691;mircea_popescu;you cant really fake metal to electrodes 711762;1402410717;mircea_popescu;but yes a ring of ga. 711763;1402410721;mircea_popescu;sounds pretty cool actually 711764;1402410723;asciilifeform;with Au probes 711765;1402410742;asciilifeform;incidentally! 711766;1402410754;asciilifeform;you could weigh the metal purely electronically 711767;1402410800;asciilifeform;if you have two electrodes, put a current through it, while surrounded by electromagnet, it will move x cm up the ring in response to Y amps... 711768;1402410831;davout;thestringpuller: "France sounds annoying." <<< wait until you hear french people 711769;1402410831;asciilifeform;why do any of this - is 'exercise for alert reader' of course. 711770;1402410886;mircea_popescu;more like putridly rich reader. 711771;1402410959;asciilifeform;http://www.ebay.com/itm/One-or-two-ounces-of-Contaminated-Gallium-Liquid-Metal-READ-/321427316761?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad68fa019 711772;1402410961;assbot;One or Two Ounces of Contaminated Gallium Liquid Metal Read | eBay 711773;1402410987;asciilifeform;anyone who remembers school chemistry will understand that impurities lower melting point 711774;1402411144;asciilifeform;Ga is ~250 usd/kg, atm 711775;1402411164;asciilifeform;(small supply + small demand) 711776;1402411258;mircea_popescu;hm. 711777;1402411283;chetty;http://www.ponzitracker.com/main/2014/6/9/new-york-man-faces-criminal-charges-for-17-million-ponzi-sch.html 711778;1402411284;assbot;New York Man Faces Criminal Charges For $17 Million Ponzi Scheme - Ponzitracker - Ponzitracker 711779;1402411288;mircea_popescu;mike_c how about a btc fund that buys gallium ? :D 711780;1402411289;asciilifeform;we could use Nd magnets as coin... 711781;1402411292;asciilifeform;try fake Nd magnet. 711782;1402411370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23799989 BTC [+] 711783;1402411379;mircea_popescu;maybe you should be head of mint. 711784;1402411393;asciilifeform;(anyone seriously thinking about bidding up Ga should remember that it is a strategic metal - radar sets live and die by GaAs diodes. so anyone who fucks with the supply is liable to Can Also Have Problems) 711785;1402411516;mike_c;mircea_popescu: lol. i'm in! 711786;1402411622;mike_c;honestly i would rather see a btc investment that bought commodities rather than real estate. with the REITS I feel like people are expecting a BTC return. no one would think that with a commodity fund (similar to x.eur). 711787;1402411684;mike_c;!t h rent 711788;1402411685;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00429980 / 0.00441359 / 0.00449890 (14 shares, 0.06179020 BTC), 7D: 0.00351101 / 0.0038605 / 0.00469990 (1234 shares, 4.76386086 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.00524007 / 0.00710000 (6290 shares, 32.96001124 BTC) 711789;1402411693;mike_c;wow, bit of a rebound 711790;1402411709;mike_c;not back to ipo price yet, but still. 711791;1402411737;mike_c;!mpif 711792;1402411738;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021639 BTC (Total: 432.79 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+] 711793;1402411750;mircea_popescu;o wow it dropped ? 711794;1402411753;mircea_popescu;!jd mpif 711795;1402411753;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.56965722 BTC; +0.09045396 BTC (+0.0531%) since last check 22h 25m 29s ago. 711796;1402411759;mircea_popescu;hm wtf 711797;1402411775;mike_c;eurusd is a tough market. 711798;1402411791;mircea_popescu;did panacea take it in teh butts ? 711799;1402411795;mike_c;yeah 711800;1402411806;mircea_popescu;THIS IS MILK 711801;1402411819;mircea_popescu;wow almost a full % huh 711802;1402411834;mircea_popescu;well you can't have it all 711803;1402411841;asciilifeform;TLS/SSL bug... hasn?t been found for over 16 years << don't blame the fscking mice... 711804;1402411845;mircea_popescu;mike_c mind making the columns on your splendid tracker red and green ? 711805;1402411850;mike_c;sure 711806;1402412057;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform why not ? 711807;1402412064;mircea_popescu;i will blame the mice. 711808;1402412150;asciilifeform;mice belong in mousetrap, yes. but the kitchen remains filthy. 711809;1402412535;asciilifeform;obligatory: 711810;1402412539;asciilifeform;;;google don't blame the mice 711811;1402412539;gribble;Loper OS » Don't Blame the Mice.: ; OF MICE & MEN LYRICS - Blame It - A-Z Lyrics: ; Misleading results: don't blame the mice.: 711812;1402412802;mircea_popescu;blaming the mice is an excellent strategy. 711813;1402412810;mircea_popescu;it encourages the mice to organise and clean up your kitchen 711814;1402412816;asciilifeform;lol! 711815;1402412819;mircea_popescu;something sans pareil in all otherapproaches. 711816;1402412833;mircea_popescu;i ordinarily punish people for things they perceive are "well outside their control" 711817;1402412835;mircea_popescu;so does nature. 711818;1402412840;*;asciilifeform must've had defective mice 711819;1402412850;mircea_popescu;or not enough patience, or not enough cruelty. 711820;1402412861;mircea_popescu;the only way to establish which of the three is to be abundant with the last two 711821;1402412866;mircea_popescu;the only ones under your own control. 711822;1402412924;*;asciilifeform killed the last two mice in old flat with own hands, still had to... clean after 711823;1402412953;jurov;btw, how it went with the robin? 711824;1402412963;mike_c;you didn't see last pic? 711825;1402412996;jurov;not 711826;1402413002;mike_c;http://imgur.com/o2HcssV 711827;1402413002;assbot;Kitteh - Imgur 711828;1402413021;jurov;kthanks 711829;1402413027;asciilifeform;bird went in cat. 711830;1402413036;fluffypony;LOL! 711831;1402413045;mike_c;bird gets 2014 darwin award 711832;1402413050;fluffypony;that cat is like "thanks for lunch" 711833;1402413062;asciilifeform;i knew i could rely on that particular cat 711834;1402413078;asciilifeform;but it only comes at dusk. 711835;1402413864;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rsv8/confirmed_blockchaininfo_shared_coin_is_broken/ 711836;1402413865;assbot;Confirmed: blockchain.info Shared Coin is broken : Bitcoin 711837;1402413867;ThickAsThieves;"There used to be something called Shared Send, which was an actual taintless bitcoin mixer and not just a CoinJoin plausible-deniability transaction obfuscator. 711838;1402413867;ThickAsThieves;For a while, Shared Send was the only option. Then SharedCoin was introduced and for a while they were both available in the blockchain.info wallet. 711839;1402413867;ThickAsThieves;Then, Shared Send was discontinued. Even the old URL for Shared Send (https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-shared) redirects to their SharedCoin page now." 711840;1402414047;mircea_popescu;noobs and poor people are not allowed to have good tools. 711841;1402414303;*;asciilifeform poor with good tools. not impossible. 711842;1402414330;asciilifeform;noobs - sure. 711843;1402414343;mircea_popescu;which is why isortedin tht order :p 711844;1402414499;asciilifeform;obligatory: 711845;1402414500;asciilifeform;http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3241654125513898@naggum.no.html 711846;1402414500;assbot;Re: becoming a better programmer - Naggum cll archive 711847;1402414540;asciilifeform;'...what I find among the modern novices is that they do not feel the same way about the experts -- they want an expert-free world where their ignorance is not painful, where their inexperience is not used against them, where they get all the jokes, where nobody uses literary references that elude them, where every one of their ideas is accepted by their peers as just as novel as they think it is...' 711848;1402414728;chetty;asciilifeform, a lot of that problem might actually be there are so few real experts 711849;1402414762;asciilifeform;chetty: somehow people once imagined that not having to travel over sea and through jungle to visit the experts - would solve this. 711850;1402414768;asciilifeform;it didn't. 711851;1402414803;chetty;nah the travel is better, earn your audience with an expert 711852;1402414867;asciilifeform;better - sure. but when you come across a lamer - he's already paying what a very reasonable education would cost - the price of his net connection. 711853;1402414892;asciilifeform;not everyone can apprentice with a master in meatspace, sure. but anyone could... read? 711854;1402415026;mircea_popescu;'...what I find among the modern novices is that they do not feel the same way about the experts -- they want an expert-free world where their ignorance is not painful, where their inexperience is not used against them, where they get all the jokes, where nobody uses literary references that elude them, where every one of their ideas is accepted by their peers as just as novel as they think it is...' <<< quite exactly. 711855;1402415036;mircea_popescu;and the prescription for this disease is... rape. 711856;1402415079;mircea_popescu;people derping about how "we" should live in a world without rape conveniently tend to not mention that rape is in fact the only cure to the particular mental disease that constitutes their powerbase. 711857;1402415091;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00085204 = 2.0449 BTC [+] 711858;1402415117;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no, not anyone could read anymore than anyone could magic., 711859;1402415188;chetty;people can't be bothered to read mostly, much less evaluate the content in any reasonable manner 711860;1402415223;mircea_popescu;reading is not just techne is the problem. which is why there exists such a thing as the educated idiot. 711861;1402415260;mike_c;those of you who wanted trilema book: https://www.paperlater.com/ 711862;1402415261;assbot;PaperLater 711863;1402415368;*;chetty likes this 711864;1402415416;chetty;save screen time and line the bird cage :) 711865;1402415603;mircea_popescu;lol 711866;1402415702;mircea_popescu;lol #bitcoin-wizards actuallyexists 711867;1402415798;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: didn't you know? 711868;1402415811;fluffypony;it's the /r/BitcoinSerious version of #bitcoin-dev 711869;1402415812;mircea_popescu;notrly. 711870;1402415815;mircea_popescu;ic 711871;1402415821;fluffypony;only the cool kids are there 711872;1402415827;*;fluffypony clearly isn't cool 711873;1402415873;mircea_popescu;course in my mind it's more like bitcoin-dev's johhny come lately attempt at making a bitcoin-assets without the ass in it 711874;1402415876;mircea_popescu;but what do i know. 711875;1402416006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.87465820 BTC to 8`765 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 711876;1402416262;fluffypony;asciilifeform: thanks for the updated defective bird pic, it has come in handy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7234573#msg7234573 711877;1402416262;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 711878;1402416420;thestringpuller;lol deprived, whatever happened to him? 711879;1402416437;mircea_popescu;fluffypony well left todd a tell, curious what'll come of that. 711880;1402416450;thestringpuller;not enough female ass in bitcoin assets 711881;1402416493;fluffypony;I like Peter Todd, I feel like his efforts are wasted / stymied by many others around him 711882;1402416674;mircea_popescu;i like him too, and feel thesame way 711883;1402416685;mircea_popescu;now if only he liked himself, he could be done with all that. 711884;1402416726;jborkl;wait Usagi lost access to his wallet ? he is still around? 711885;1402416749;mircea_popescu;sure, he's inventing the future of crypto 711886;1402416753;mircea_popescu;much like amir taaki 711887;1402416754;mircea_popescu;etc. 711888;1402416792;jborkl;maybe he can sell his skateboard this time 711889;1402416803;jborkl;he already sold his guitar 711890;1402416806;mircea_popescu;princessnell "Visions receive more attention than game plans. We know we want to decentralize, at least. Growing pains notwithstanding, the old ways simply will not do. Power corrupts, we are reminded from birth. The worst get on top, fewer learn later. Men are not angels but too many of them still run the world. No, our doomed synthetic seraphocracy must go." your prose needs better ligature. 711891;1402416825;fluffypony;jborkl: to quote usagi - "You guys have no idea how badly you've screwed up trying to troll people to get ahead, and all the junk lies that you are telling." 711892;1402416830;fluffypony;we don't even KNOW 711893;1402417044;asciilifeform;fluffypony: lol 711894;1402417281;jborkl;I still do not know if he is the biggest idiot on the planet or just a scammer playing idiot 711895;1402417297;jborkl;he is too good at playing idiot to tell 711896;1402417323;chetty;jborkl> he is too good at playing idiot to tell// obama? 711897;1402417332;jborkl;he/she/both 711898;1402417339;jborkl;hehe 711899;1402417359;davout;jborkl: dotcoin is the same 711900;1402417366;davout;NOT SURE IF STUPID OR STUPID 711901;1402417531;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06920012 = 0.5536 BTC [-] {2} 711902;1402417626;punkman;http://www.valuedinvesting.com/overview.php 711903;1402417627;assbot;Valued Investing | Socially Conscious Online Financial Advisor 711904;1402417833;mircea_popescu;who's that ? 711905;1402417843;benkay; asciilifeform: That explains the problem historically, but not why it persists. // see also smbx 711906;1402417926;benkay; fluffypony: Done right XFCE looks much better than OSx // care to share shots of your setup? 711907;1402417975;asciilifeform;benkay: the wm 'ratpoison', imho, looks better than osx. i.e., it doesn't draw extraneous crud on the display at all... 711908;1402418008;asciilifeform;no window borders, no buttons, no clocks... nothing 711909;1402418021;benkay;i have to admin, i tend to eschew the window mgr in favor of...emacs. app-tab over to...browsers. 711910;1402418032;asciilifeform;benkay: think emacs but for all x11 progs 711911;1402418067;benkay;i've been concerned about a wm stomping on my emacs bindings, and losing a week to fixing it. 711912;1402418092;benkay;granted this pernicious notion was planted in my head by the notorious lee, so i don't know if it carries any water. 711913;1402418101;asciilifeform;'ratpoison' doesn't - but if it did, all you'd have to do is change its own bindings (they're all configurable) 711914;1402418115;benkay;i'd hope. 711915;1402418124;benkay;have you tried xmonad? 711916;1402418126;asciilifeform;it's something like 50kb of c 711917;1402418164;asciilifeform;xmonad draws on screen, ugh. 711918;1402418171;benkay;vs? 711919;1402418175;benkay;do forgive my ignorance. 711920;1402418178;asciilifeform;vs ratpoison 711921;1402418181;asciilifeform;which doesn't 711922;1402418188;asciilifeform;it only gives other things a place to live 711923;1402418190;benkay;sure but what does rp do that's so different? 711924;1402418203;asciilifeform;only this 711925;1402418221;benkay;what's the difference between drawing on the screen and giving things a place to live? 711926;1402418222;asciilifeform;there are other tiling wm, but they all seem to insist on being 'better' - i.e. actually outputting something extra 711927;1402418230;benkay;displays are *way* out of my weelhouse. 711928;1402418257;asciilifeform;benkay: perhaps i did not explain well. most wm actually draw something of their own on the screen - window boundaries, toggles, clocks, etc. 711929;1402418286;benkay;ah that's what you mean by draw things. 711930;1402418299;asciilifeform;rp doesn't - all it does is reposition x11 windows created by other progs 711931;1402418308;benkay;i understand now, thank you. 711932;1402418502;FabianB;!t m F.MPIF 711933;1402418502;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021703 / 0.00021703 / 0.00021703 (1000 shares, 0.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00021548 / 0.0002161 / 0.00021725 (15601 shares, 3.37 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 711934;1402418971;mircea_popescu;Low Management Fee 0.6% 711935;1402418975;mircea_popescu;omfg god help us 711936;1402419006;chetty;http://www.fbi.gov/pittsburgh/press-releases/2014/former-mingo-judge-sentenced-to-more-than-four-years-in-federal-prison 711937;1402419006;assbot;FBI — Former Mingo Judge Sentenced to More Than Four Years in Federal Prison 711938;1402419184;asciilifeform;chetty: i'd be surprised if every judge in usa weren't guilty of these and other crimes. but this one is removed. --> for reasons. 711939;1402419230;thestringpuller;!mpif 711940;1402419232;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021641 BTC (Total: 432.83 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 711941;1402419239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.238 BTC [+] 711942;1402419259;mircea_popescu;what did he do again ? 711943;1402419261;chetty;asciilifeform, every little bit helps 711944;1402419286;TomServo;The sentence comes after Thornsbury admitted his role in a conspiracy to coerce a local drug defendant, George White, into firing his defense counsel. 711945;1402419297;asciilifeform;chetty: what i'm suggesting is that this particular specimen 'needed to have problems' - for some reason obviously not stated in the gov. press release. 711946;1402419318;asciilifeform;the others remain on their thrones, on account of their 'playing ball' 711947;1402419333;chetty;sigh, prolly true - charge should read, fails to play ball 711948;1402419383;benkay;!up blackwhite_ 711949;1402419387;asciilifeform;a lizard goes to the clink when a fatter, more senior lizard wishes it, and not at any other time 711950;1402419392;mircea_popescu;o yea 711951;1402419393;benkay;;;google trilema assets +m 711952;1402419394;gribble;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely ... - Trilema: ; Ca tot… sa tras tot sa fumat tot sa baut tot cum e peste tot ... - Trilema: if it just works they don't need you anymore. << i need him more when it works. 712083;1402426010;mircea_popescu; conferences for actual tools aren't that bad of an idea compared to bitcoin conferences << agreed 712084;1402426035;mircea_popescu; how many talks about docker could one endure in two days though << also agreed. 712085;1402426041;mircea_popescu;da fuck do i do now 712086;1402426146;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 712087;1402426147;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 648.85, Best ask: 650.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.15000, Last trade: 650.0, 24 hour volume: 6690.75594717, 24 hour low: 641.01, 24 hour high: 657.41, 24 hour vwap: 649.408442812 712088;1402426150;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 712089;1402426150;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.62354623 BTC; +0.05388901 BTC (+0.0316%) since last check 3h 59m 57s ago. 712090;1402426273;BingoBoingo;I like the gallium torroid idea. I was thinking I might be useful for creating small bronze scultpures that could be remoulded almost like clay. 712091;1402426279;Mats_cd03;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANTaUnBeKyw 712092;1402426279;assbot;G. Love & Special Sauce - Nothing Quite Like Home - YouTube 712093;1402426330;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2014#711784 712094;1402426331;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 712095;1402426362;asciilifeform;maybe good idea, but 'badBet' 712096;1402426370;asciilifeform;to use kako's terminology 712097;1402426419;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, I think retaliation from the Gallium upbidding cartel could take the form of upbidding Indium. iPhones can have problems too. 712098;1402426423;kakobrekla;i thought it was english. 712099;1402426471;asciilifeform;it'd be a shame, though, GaAs is costly enough as it is. 712100;1402426553;BingoBoingo;Yeah, and so many aesthetic uses, Like a liquid metal fountain out in the garden. 712101;1402426656;asciilifeform;i'd leave this gedankenexperiment on the shelf. just because you can, doesn't mean that you must. but, on the other hand, nobody's gonna play tungsten games with 'gold' that's liquid at 30c. 712102;1402426760;BingoBoingo;It might take what, 1, 2 kilograms to fill a small fountain? The gallium might need changed out every couple seasons due to impurities? 712103;1402426787;BingoBoingo;benkay: My setup looks like that unsee.cc pic I linked to fluffypony 712104;1402426797;BingoBoingo;At least it does on the portable. 712105;1402426799;[]bot;Bet created: "Belgium to make Round of 16 at 2014 World Cup" http://bitbet.us/bet/889/ 712106;1402426803;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.238 = 0.476 BTC [+] 712107;1402426986;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.239 BTC [+] 712108;1402427034;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: also helps to remember that this 'gold' is approximately as abundant as lead in the earth's crust. but, considerably more energy-costly to extract (byproduct of Al refinement) 712109;1402427069;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Of course, in that way it is like silver, but with a more predictable extraction rate. 712110;1402427091;asciilifeform;predictable until some bozo starts buying by the megaton. 712111;1402427108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.23996553 = 1.4398 BTC [+] {2} 712112;1402427198;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i suggested it as 'coin' simply as thought experiment in generalizing the 'use-value' of btc. that is, material that cannot be confused with anything else (Hg, for instance, on top of being rather common, can be substituted with 'gallinstan' alloy. but you can't raise melting point of Ga by mixing in impurities - only lower it) 712113;1402427220;[]bot;Bet created: "Bayern beats Major League Soccer" http://bitbet.us/bet/890/ 712114;1402427245;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-reorganize-chapter-11-bankruptcy/ 712115;1402427287;asciilifeform;a NdFeB or SmCo magnet would likewise make a very 'solid' coin, from that perspective 712116;1402427308;asciilifeform;testable as genuine with a dollar's worth of gear. 712117;1402427352;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.02999999 = 0.9 BTC [+] 712118;1402427353;asciilifeform;no need to weigh it, even 712119;1402427362;asciilifeform;just squeeze it into a size/depth gauge and determine 'pull' 712120;1402427406;asciilifeform;don't keep these 'coins' with your bank cards... 712121;1402427433;[]bot;Bet created: "Clint Dempsey wins MLS MVP" http://bitbet.us/bet/891/ 712122;1402427610;mike_c;hashfast ceo one month ago: "I joined this company a month ago because the team is amazing and we are not scammers" 712123;1402427610;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 712124;1402427619;mike_c;today: "we're bankrupt. I'm outta here" 712125;1402427659;asciilifeform;speaking of NdFeB: turns out one can now get man-portable, cryogen-free nmr machines based on rare earth magnet. 20k usd or so, used. 712126;1402427681;asciilifeform;never mix up red and blue pill again... 712127;1402427706;Namworld;Those coins would shatter easily and be kinda troublesome. 712128;1402427710;Namworld;NMR machine? 712129;1402427724;benkay;ah, ty BingoBoingo 712130;1402427779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.024 = 0.216 BTC [-] 712131;1402427901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.02390713 = 0.3108 BTC [-] {2} 712132;1402428023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.02380399 = 0.3571 BTC [-] {3} 712133;1402428905;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/its-official-malicious-hackers-have-crappy-password-hygiene-too/ 712134;1402428906;assbot;Its official: Malicious hackers have crappy password hygiene, too | Ars Technica 712135;1402428942;[]bot;Bet created: "Seattle Sounders MLS Champions" http://bitbet.us/bet/892/ 712136;1402428963;dignork;asciilifeform: for the pills - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903107259/scio-your-sixth-sense-a-pocket-molecular-sensor-fo 712137;1402428964;assbot;SCiO: Your Sixth Sense. A Pocket Molecular Sensor For All ! by Consumer Physics, Inc. — Kickstarter 712138;1402429060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07000001 = 0.7 BTC [-] 712139;1402429086;BingoBoingo;%book 712140;1402429087;[]bot;Bet created: "Jose Abreu AL Rookie of the Year" http://bitbet.us/bet/893/ 712141;1402429090;atcbot;2k@270 2k@269 20k@265 | 3k@144 50k@143 175k@142 712142;1402429131;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: scio << classic kickstarturd 712143;1402429177;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That's diginork's link. If such a kickstarter succeeded I wouldn't trust it to identify interesting things... 712144;1402429246;[]bot;Bet created: "Andy Murray to win Wimbledon 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/894/ 712145;1402429387;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the claim of protein/fat content through surface ir spectroscopy is truly precious. 712146;1402429395;dignork;it would probably differentiate metal from stone, usability close to zero, but amusing 712147;1402429404;asciilifeform;how does anyone fall for this garbage ? 712148;1402429419;asciilifeform;don't they make anyone use actual ir spectrometer in school now? 712149;1402429429;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That is one concern. The other is identifying tylenol through the tablet's way? 712150;1402429454;asciilifeform;i didn't see mortar/pestle in the photo, sorta assumed it must've been there 712151;1402429512;BingoBoingo;Even then, I'd expect it to report a lot of cornstarch, stearate and lipid esters 712152;1402429576;asciilifeform;the sad part is, 'cyranose' (1990s product based on an oddball solid state gas column) actually worked. 712153;1402429586;asciilifeform;locked up in patent purgatory to this day, afaik 712154;1402429647;asciilifeform;e.g. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC149373 712155;1402429648;assbot;Bacteria classification using Cyranose 320 electronic nose 712156;1402429688;asciilifeform;seems like the homeland seekoority bozos might've swallowed it. 712157;1402429690;BingoBoingo;Even supposing the thing identifies tylenol it isn't identifying any interesting high molecular weight compounds 712158;1402429733;asciilifeform;anyone who buys a berth on mp's 'we piss on patents' atomic battleship should give 'cyranose' a thought. 712159;1402429944;mike_c;http://www.coinalytics.co/ 712160;1402429945;assbot;Coinalytics 712161;1402429954;mike_c;you guys need to start taking the right decisions. 712162;1402430187;los_pantalones;take a discripined decision 712163;1402430890;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14988 @ 0.00085128 = 12.759 BTC [-] 712164;1402431195;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 106 @ 0.0505008 = 5.3531 BTC [-] {4} 712165;1402431500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00085154 = 5.237 BTC [+] {2} 712166;1402431500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0707999 = 0.2124 BTC [+] 712167;1402431805;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.0008508 = 8.0826 BTC [-] 712168;1402431988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00227926 = 0.1003 BTC [+] 712169;1402432274;benkay;lol that email form 712170;1402432282;benkay;that designer is fired. 712171;1402432315;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: a very special find: http://archiveofourown.org/works/1664801?view_adult=true 712172;1402432316;assbot;A Penetration Artist - Deep Shit (infinitebutthole) - KAFKA Franz - Works [Archive of Our Own] 712173;1402432332;benkay;too clever. not usable. 712174;1402432403;mike_c;don't be stuck in the 90's. usability should never trump slick design. 712175;1402432464;benkay;graceful...nevermind. 712176;1402432720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9877 @ 0.00085171 = 8.4123 BTC [+] {3} 712177;1402433696;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.028 = 2.8 BTC [-] 712178;1402434184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.02999999 = 0.45 BTC [+] 712179;1402434428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.0008508 = 8.9759 BTC [-] 712180;1402435303;jurov;technetium coins for sale! buy while still fresh! 712181;1402435560;jurov;...technetium alloy cut with gold and palladium would be perfect for 712182;1402435562;jurov;high-value coinage. “Hard, bright, untarnishable and rare, it would be the 712183;1402435563;jurov;numismatist’s answer to diamond, for such a coin might last nearly forever.” 712184;1402435587;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.028 = 1.4 BTC [-] 712185;1402435591;*;jurov googled shit 712186;1402435742;jurov;http://worldtracker.org/media/library/English%20Literature/M/Mccarthy,%20Wil/Wil%20McCarthy%20-%20The%20Technetium%20Rush.pdf 712187;1402436258;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.028 = 1.4 BTC [-] 712188;1402436506;benkay;moar 712189;1402436509;benkay;coffee 712190;1402436929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.02383737 = 0.3099 BTC [-] {3} 712191;1402436930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0707999 = 1.416 BTC [+] 712192;1402436931;thestringpuller;Damn 712193;1402436935;thestringpuller;silent as fuck today 712194;1402436945;thestringpuller;something big about to go down ain't it? 712195;1402436947;benkay;get back to your pomodoros ;) 712196;1402436990;mike_c;everybody's behind schedule. 712197;1402436992;asciilifeform;thestringpuller: something big about to go down << mp did mention preparing some new thing 712198;1402437417;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 301 @ 0.00047635 = 0.1434 BTC [+] {2} 712199;1402437452;asciilifeform;jurov: technetium coin << afaik, fiction. but, idea. 712200;1402437479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0238 = 0.1666 BTC [-] 712201;1402438088;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 14 @ 0.08888 = 1.2443 BTC [-] 712202;1402438576;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [-] 712203;1402438698;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] {4} 712204;1402438820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-] 712205;1402439125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 32 @ 0.08 = 2.56 BTC [-] 712206;1402439308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-] 712207;1402439536;mike_c;pop quiz (no cheating). name a company with mkt cap > $200b and p/e > 20. 712208;1402439607;mircea_popescu;exxon is over 200bn fo sho 712209;1402439622;mike_c;pe = 14 712210;1402439623;mircea_popescu;was more like 4 iirc 712211;1402439630;mircea_popescu;hm 712212;1402439640;mike_c;challenging, right? these companies shouldn't exist. 712213;1402439650;mircea_popescu;how about the china oil corp ? 712214;1402439654;mircea_popescu;w/e it was called 712215;1402439671;mircea_popescu;also icbc maybe 712216;1402439706;mike_c;far as i can tell china companies have crappy pe's. 712217;1402439713;mike_c;google is the one that got me looking. 712218;1402439728;mike_c;$380b at a fking 30 p/e 712219;1402439751;mike_c;others are proctor/gamble, novartis, and royal dutch. 712220;1402439768;mircea_popescu;no look, petrochina : 130bn net over 1 trn equity 712221;1402439816;mike_c;hm, the petrochina ADR i see has $225b cap and pe 11 712222;1402439849;mircea_popescu;i see goog actual at 15.3 pe 712223;1402439855;mircea_popescu;what figures exactly are you working on ? 712224;1402439893;mircea_popescu;Diluted EPS Excluding Extraordinary Items 5.33 trading 560ish 712225;1402439904;mircea_popescu;(mrq) 712226;1402439982;mircea_popescu;anyway, petrochina is ptr on nyse 712227;1402440006;mike_c;;;calc 560 / (5.34 * 4) 712228;1402440006;gribble;26.2172284644 712229;1402440058;mike_c;unless my math is borked, that is a hefty pe for a company that big. 712230;1402440065;mircea_popescu;trading 120ish, Diluted Normalized EPS 0.19 mrq 712231;1402440074;mircea_popescu;;;calc 120 / 4 / .19 712232;1402440074;gribble;157.894736842 712233;1402440081;mircea_popescu;157 pe there you go 712234;1402440094;cazalla;i don't think there are any australian ones, i think BHP Billiton has cap of like 50-60b 712235;1402440101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4397 @ 0.00085204 = 3.7464 BTC [+] 712236;1402440145;mircea_popescu;and icbc is actually listed... on the fucking pink sheets. idcby 712237;1402440158;mike_c;where yo ugetting that number? i see PTR mrq is 2.92 eps 712238;1402440168;mike_c;;;calc 120 / (2.92 *4) 712239;1402440168;gribble;10.2739726027 712240;1402440178;mircea_popescu;http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3APTR&fstype=ii&ei=c4mXU4ipKcea6AGPz4DgCQ << 712241;1402440179;assbot;Financial Statements for PetroChina Company Limited (ADR) - Google Finance 712242;1402440189;mircea_popescu;dn eps is the last item on the page 712243;1402440251;mike_c;that number is wrong i believe 712244;1402440257;mircea_popescu;o.O 712245;1402440295;BingoBoingo;OMG It's another LABCOIN!!! Amazing Petro!!! 712246;1402440302;mircea_popescu;lmao 712247;1402440329;mircea_popescu;i still can't quite believe icbc is listed as a pink wtf bbq 712248;1402440380;mircea_popescu;thing has like half a million emplouyees all over theworld. 712249;1402440410;mike_c;yeah, google's out to fucking lunch. that number is wrong 712250;1402440425;mircea_popescu;mike_c maybe their own numbers are wrong too then ? :D 712251;1402440439;mike_c;look at the summary at the top. 22b shares * $123 = $225b mkt cap?? 712252;1402440455;mike_c;that's some fuzzy math 712253;1402440478;mircea_popescu;i think they use an avg 712254;1402440484;mircea_popescu;123 is last close orsomething 712255;1402440513;BingoBoingo;I'm telling you they hired Armandi to be their shadow CEO 712256;1402440515;mike_c;22b * $123 = $2.5 T. that is pretty far off 712257;1402440528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.08697123 = 0.6958 BTC [+] {5} 712258;1402440534;mircea_popescu;;;calc 225 / 22 712259;1402440534;gribble;10.2272727273 712260;1402440549;mike_c;see? they added a zero. 712261;1402440560;mircea_popescu;lol hm. 712262;1402440576;mike_c;google: 0 mike: 1 712263;1402440628;mircea_popescu;http://www.icbc-ltd.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/ICBC/Resources/ICBCLTD/download/2014/FirstQuarterlyReportof2014.pdf << the icbc statement 712264;1402440668;mircea_popescu;net 73,461 ; 0.21 d eps. 712265;1402440673;mircea_popescu;so there. this is a definite. 712266;1402440710;mike_c;right, but what is $123 in yuan 712267;1402440716;mthreat;mike_c: AMZN is close, $150B cap, 520 PE 712268;1402440745;mike_c;your definite is in some other currency. 712269;1402440748;mircea_popescu;the 0.21 d eps is in RMB yuans 712270;1402440793;mircea_popescu;and iut's been trading at about 12.83 usd/share on otc 712271;1402440807;mircea_popescu;(aka 80 rmb) 712272;1402440812;mircea_popescu;;;calc 80 / 4 / .21 712273;1402440812;gribble;95.2380952381 712274;1402440815;mircea_popescu;there. 95. 712275;1402440826;mike_c;ok, so icbc is on the list then. 712276;1402440834;mike_c;sell that one too 712277;1402440845;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't. 712278;1402440856;mircea_popescu;it's owned by the chinese govt, and a tool of its foreign policy. 712279;1402440864;mircea_popescu;a rather close approximation of mpex, for that matter. 712280;1402440865;mike_c;sell gazprom as well 712281;1402440874;mircea_popescu;you're young and therefore naive :) 712282;1402440901;mike_c;look, idk wtf goes on in china. i'm just saying, dump GOOG, PG, novartis and royal dutch. 712283;1402440913;mircea_popescu;goog i can see. novartis maybe. royal dutch no. 712284;1402440921;mike_c;well nobody actually sells oil companies 712285;1402440921;mircea_popescu;and the chinese/russian/etc royal entreprises no, either. 712286;1402440941;mircea_popescu;not unless you're a sovereign yourself, ready able and willing to go to war with the sovereigns backing them 712287;1402440948;mike_c;gimme a year 712288;1402440957;mircea_popescu;so maybe you sell them in a year then. 712289;1402440984;mike_c;:) plus, i actually hold some PG and i ain't selling that either. 712290;1402440999;mike_c;everybody needs toothpaste 712291;1402441004;mircea_popescu;im actually mildly short on us crapola, from google to the rest of the "Tech" sector. 712292;1402441037;mike_c;aapl is under $100 now! totally a good reason for the stock to shoot up 20%! 712293;1402441052;mircea_popescu;yeah, right, because that's how it works. 712294;1402441084;mike_c;mthreat: amzn doesn't count, they aren't trying to make money. 712295;1402441100;mircea_popescu;hm, come to think of it, perhaps it could be argued im not even THAT mildly short. i'm like 600k in against brk publicly 712296;1402441260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0708 = 0.2124 BTC [+] 712297;1402441832;fluffypony;usagi confuses me 712298;1402441836;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7238720#msg7238720 712299;1402441836;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 712300;1402441845;fluffypony;"And yes, as I mentioned quite a number of times, not only do we have off-site backups I am mirroring daily backups to a Synology DS-4 I keep in my office." 712301;1402441863;fluffypony;if he had/has off-site backups why even bother posting in the first place? 712302;1402441899;dub;one does not understand a usagi 712303;1402441930;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you spend entirely too much time on usagi. 712304;1402441936;dub;^ 712305;1402441948;mircea_popescu;take blondie out, at least she's ACTUALLY female. 712306;1402441955;fluffypony;hah hah 712307;1402441997;mircea_popescu;anyway, he doesn't have an office, he worked as a sort of that-fat--and-gay-guy-in-high-fidelity 712308;1402442785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.1 = 1.2 BTC [+] 712309;1402442914;mircea_popescu;!up cryptoflood 712310;1402443029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2399 BTC [-] 712311;1402443090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07086666 = 0.2126 BTC [+] {2} 712312;1402443091;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0020904 = 0.1254 BTC [-] 712313;1402443144;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: You have to realize arguing with Usagi is worthless. He has too many aspersation to experience any sort of self examination. 712314;1402443196;mircea_popescu;mike_c: hashfast ceo one month ago: "I joined this company a month ago because the team is amazing and we are not scammers" | today: "we're bankrupt. I'm outta here" << fucking exactly. 712315;1402443196;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 712316;1402443218;mircea_popescu;and on top of it, they get all butthurt when they're treated to a heapful of stfu and go read the logs for a year on the FIRST announcement. 712317;1402443233;mike_c;well, they know better 712318;1402443252;mircea_popescu;ya right. and who even told eduardo decastro he can be a ceo anyway. 712319;1402443274;BingoBoingo;Maybe we should start selling canned STFU. 712320;1402443285;fluffypony;lol 712321;1402443285;mircea_popescu;http://hashfast.com/eduardo-decastro-ceo-receiving-the-wafers/ 712322;1402443285;assbot;Eduardo deCastro, CEO, receiving the wafers! | HashFast 712323;1402443368;mircea_popescu;Namworld: Those coins would shatter easily and be kinda troublesome. << yeah the shatter factor is a problem. also, god help you if you're trying to carry say a 20 lb bag of them in the street. 712324;1402443383;mircea_popescu;well... on the optimistic side... you'll prolly have no trouble catching the bus. 712325;1402443503;mircea_popescu;"Based on a statistical analysis of the recovered passwords, Ha constructed two character sets that stood the best chance of quickly cracking the remaining undeciphered passcodes. The shorter of the two contained just 28 characters: acdehiklmnorstu01234579!-.@_" 712326;1402443509;mircea_popescu;as to why humans make shitty rngs 712327;1402443578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-] 712328;1402443579;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.24 = 0.96 BTC [+] 712329;1402443582;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2014#712142 yet "11,665 Backers $2,480,795 pledged of $200,000 goal 4 days to go" 712330;1402443582;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 712331;1402443590;mircea_popescu;curious what sort of magic kickstarter can turn out of 2.5mn 712332;1402443700;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: don't they make anyone use actual ir spectrometer in school now? << no. because it'd be racist. 712333;1402443762;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: anyone who buys a berth on mp's 'we piss on patents' atomic battleship should give 'cyranose' a thought. << this is a good point actually. 712334;1402443775;BingoBoingo;http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/06/stop-shovel-time.html 712335;1402443776;assbot;Doctor Grumpy in the House: Stop!... Shovel time! 712336;1402443801;mircea_popescu;"Coinalytics receives seed funding as one of 500 Startups first Bitcoin ventures" 712337;1402443802;mircea_popescu;lolk. 712338;1402443886;mircea_popescu;mike_c:everybody's behind schedule. < :D 712339;1402443958;mike_c;except me of course, i'm just naturally quiet. 712340;1402443960;BingoBoingo;Jobs to revive in the serene republic http://www.birchingtonheritage.org.uk/articles/dogacre.htm 712341;1402443960;assbot;Jennie Dog Acre Article 712342;1402444108;mircea_popescu;ahhh history. 712343;1402444111;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2012/lunea-intunericoasa-ca-sa-nu-zicem-de-a-dreptu-neagra-ca-i-urit-si-ne-citesc-inclusiv-copii-de-tita/ 712344;1402444112;assbot;Lunea intunericoasa ca sa nu zicem de-a dreptu’ neagra ca-i urit si ne citesc inclusiv copii de tita. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 712345;1402444124;mircea_popescu;this is an article about the black monday, which you're prolly mostly too young to remember. 712346;1402444143;mircea_popescu;about 4% of the monetary mass in circulation sold out, bitcoin dropped from 5.3 to 4.5, and people were in agreeemnt that it's prolly the end 712347;1402444157;mircea_popescu;"all high volume is on red candles, forget it" etc 712348;1402444161;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/strange-things-people-think/ 712349;1402444589;BingoBoingo;Wait, Sal Inglesa 712350;1402444708;BingoBoingo;mircea_inglesa: I have a feeling the Argentines are going to start refering to Bitcoin as Money Inglesa before too long... 712351;1402444869;mircea_popescu;it would not surprise me. 712352;1402444879;mircea_popescu;crypto inglesa 712353;1402444883;mthreat;mircea_popescu: I've heard (unverified) that there is some law about requiring sale of condoms in bathrooms here 712354;1402444891;mircea_popescu;mthreat wait, what ?! 712355;1402444902;mircea_popescu;dude the fucking weird laws they have, texas is nothing compared 712356;1402444904;BingoBoingo;Crypto Inglesa sounds more like GPG 712357;1402444917;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo no that's correo inglesa 712358;1402444923;mthreat;mircea_popescu: even the women's bathrooms often have condom machines 712359;1402444935;mthreat;again, unverified 712360;1402444942;mircea_popescu;mthreat no even there. us condom dispenser machines are in girl's bathrooms too 712361;1402444959;mircea_popescu;i think i even have pics published on trilema somewhere of this in san antonio tx 712362;1402444971;BingoBoingo;Ah, Texas has some weird laws... I don't think it is legal for a Texan to make eye contact with a Steer and not offer it a handjob. 712363;1402444984;mthreat;i've seen them in texas, but i'm not aware of any law there 712364;1402444997;mircea_popescu;i don't think anyone's aware of what the laws are, in texas :D 712365;1402445308;BingoBoingo;One of the things I miss about Missouri was its general lack of laws 712366;1402445444;BingoBoingo;I thank the Busch dynasty for that (Beer Busches, not politics Bushes) 712367;1402445835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27098 @ 0.00085375 = 23.1349 BTC [+] {3} 712368;1402446016;BingoBoingo;Were we still looking at the back part of July? 712369;1402446041;BingoBoingo;http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=stl#y=2014&m=7&calendar=DEFAULT and August http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=stl#y=2014&m=8&calendar=DEFAULT 712370;1402446041;assbot;Cardinals Schedule | cardinals.com: Schedule 712371;1402446041;assbot;Cardinals Schedule | cardinals.com: Schedule 712372;1402446057;BingoBoingo;Oops thestringpuller 712373;1402446112;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/02/general-surgery/ 712374;1402446113;assbot;American Board of General Surgery to Add Section on Barbering | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 712375;1402446160;mircea_popescu;ok so i ended up picking a link from someone in here and writing a fucking important and grandiose piece. 712376;1402446164;mircea_popescu;god i love this chan 712377;1402446179;mircea_popescu;(it's not done yet, but should be in a coupla hours) 712378;1402446469;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: what are you using that has 'll' ? unix system V ? 712379;1402446512;asciilifeform;(mentioned in footnote to 'strange things people think') 712380;1402446528;asciilifeform;... minix ? 712381;1402446531;mircea_popescu;dude srsly ? fucking ubuntu has ll. debian has ll. 712382;1402446535;mircea_popescu;what doesn't have ll 712383;1402446539;asciilifeform;me. 712384;1402446559;mircea_popescu;lol ok 712385;1402446563;mircea_popescu;why not ? ls sucks 712386;1402446565;asciilifeform;(to be fair, if i didn't build it from src, it's not here) 712387;1402446596;mircea_popescu;(it's just an alias for ls -l you know) 712388;1402446599;asciilifeform;sure 712389;1402446610;asciilifeform;a little retro 712390;1402446616;mircea_popescu;well ya. 712391;1402446630;mircea_popescu;ls should be -l by default anyway. 712392;1402446636;asciilifeform;ltr 712393;1402446697;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Is that cat any closer to being tamed? 712394;1402446698;mircea_popescu;anyway, the requirement was to know what it does. you proposing bar too high ? 712395;1402446714;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: cat is the ways she likes, wild, free 712396;1402446763;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: All you need to do is move it to being wild, free, and attuned to your air defense needs. 712397;1402446771;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: battleship where they piss on patents: there is a smart and a foolish way to do this. the latter - e.g. ussr, where my father and countless other folks copied consumer gizmos from the west. smart way: develop tech that was entombed in patent hell in the west and never really hatched 712398;1402446797;mike_c;trippy. imma go throw up now. http://amiagoodperson.tumblr.com/ 712399;1402446798;assbot;am i really a good person? 712400;1402446819;asciilifeform;e.g. electric nose, retinal projection display, various biological strange 712401;1402446829;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform maybe 712402;1402446832;mircea_popescu;it's a complex problem 712403;1402446843;asciilifeform;more examples - anything to do with wavelets 712404;1402446854;asciilifeform;one could make a tedious list 712405;1402446933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9064 @ 0.00085612 = 7.7599 BTC [+] 712406;1402446949;*;BingoBoingo wonders if Yarvin will revise the Urbit metaphor again when Bitcoin becomes a Naval power... 712407;1402447054;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: urbit belongs to rupture farms (or whatever that vc outfit was called) now 712408;1402447083;BingoBoingo;Imagined Urbit Progression: Feudalism >> Flotilla >> Trucking Company >> Single Toyota Hillux >> Truckstop Bathroom >> Condom on the floor of said bathroom >> Semen in the Condom >> AIDs 712409;1402447093;asciilifeform;http://www.cultdeadcow.com/cDc_files/cDc-0252.txt 712410;1402447103;asciilifeform;^ yarvin as a kid, when he was more fun 712411;1402447139;asciilifeform;http://www.cultdeadcow.com/cDc_files/cDc-0234.html 712412;1402447140;assbot;cDc paramedia: texXxt #234 712413;1402447142;asciilifeform;^ ditto 712414;1402447253;BingoBoingo;Interesting that web archeology is a big enough project that there can now be subject specialists. 712415;1402447303;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: actually moldbug/yarvin 'came out of the closet' when he bragged about inventing address space randomization in an obscure paper as an undergrad 712416;1402447313;asciilifeform;circa... 2009? 712417;1402447318;asciilifeform;that narrowed the candidate list to 1. 712418;1402447360;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22239 @ 0.00084961 = 18.8945 BTC [-] {3} 712419;1402447365;asciilifeform;at least that's when i (not acquainted with the man personally) learned the truth 712420;1402447401;BingoBoingo;Interesting how this works. 712421;1402447454;asciilifeform;that's when i realized that talking about anything worthwhile under a 'tight' alias is arduous to the degree that it's probably not worth it 712422;1402447490;asciilifeform;folks who do this for a living (e.g. spying) come with 'cover' biographies and essentially live the life of an actor 712423;1402447512;asciilifeform;and then understand that you can't use actual life experiences, etc. in conversation 712424;1402447533;asciilifeform;not worth it unless you're paid for the sweat (or perhaps half a step ahead of the gasenwagen...) 712425;1402447719;asciilifeform;going back to mr mold: 712426;1402447722;asciilifeform;'Sacco and Vanzetti came up with an entirely different solution to the slow-MMU problem, one which if I do say so myself was less imaginative than mine, but both more general and more practical. They published theirs in a real conference, received much acclaim for it, and I believe patented it, started a so-called company and eventually sold it to Microsoft.' 712427;1402447746;asciilifeform;'At some point during this period, however, I realized that the entire problem was a complete and utter pseudo-problem. ... So I am very confident that neither of these techniques, neither mine nor Sacco and Vanzetti's, has ever been used in practice. There is no need for them, there has never been any need for them, and there will never be any need for them. And this was quite obvious in 1993.' 712428;1402447755;asciilifeform;'My Navrozov moment, of course, was when I approached one of the two - Sacco, I think - and attempted to have an intellectual discussion of this realization. The story is basically the same as Navrozov's, so it would be boring to repeat, but basically I came away with the feeling that I'd told someone his Sicilian grandmother liked to get drunk and fuck her own goats.' 712429;1402447765;asciilifeform;'Which, in fact, I had. Because I'd essentially told him his research was fraudulent. The fact that my research was also fraudulent, and that neither of ours was particularly noteworthy in that regard, did not matter. And why should it? Others' crimes cannot excuse your own.' 712430;1402447768;asciilifeform;(end of mega-quote.) 712431;1402447774;asciilifeform;http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-navrozov-moments.html 712432;1402447774;assbot;Unqualified Reservations: My Navrozov moments 712433;1402447778;asciilifeform;^ the piece in question 712434;1402447788;mircea_popescu; that's when i realized that talking about anything worthwhile under a 'tight' alias is arduous to the degree that it's probably not worth it << 712435;1402447810;mircea_popescu;similarly, managing noise levels in your building is not something you do anonymously. 712436;1402447834;asciilifeform;'tight' understood to mean, actually making an effort to conceal your human name 712437;1402447840;mircea_popescu;ya 712438;1402447889;mircea_popescu;anyway, no research is ever fraudulent. 712439;1402447890;benkay;oh yeah. when neighbors act up, i go over in my underoos and say "hi. please stop." 712440;1402447897;mircea_popescu;the historyof nonsense is still scholarship 712441;1402447902;mircea_popescu;one just has to be jewish enough about it. 712442;1402447911;BingoBoingo;I like my current level of OL vs. IRL identity taint which is nearly complete, but maintained because I like it and it keep sthe lowest nags away. 712443;1402447922;mircea_popescu;benkay 300 dollar shirt, no underwear works better. 712444;1402447951;asciilifeform;300 dollar shirt << chain mail? 712445;1402447962;mircea_popescu;no lol 712446;1402447971;BingoBoingo;I've heard... cycling my Mossberg tends to quiet the neighborhood from third hand reports... 712447;1402447972;asciilifeform;what other shirt has 'obvious' price 712448;1402447986;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: W-metal shirt 712449;1402447991;BingoBoingo;Or Z-weighted shirt 712450;1402447996;mircea_popescu;hm 712451;1402448056;*;BingoBoingo actually fancies the eventual acquisition of z-weighted storm shutters. 712452;1402448187;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: ? 712453;1402448301;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Well, wind storms are a thing here and... should a hot war start with a nuclear power... I live all to close to Air Mobility command atm to count on these plastic window blinds to save me from radiation poisoning while I wait out the initial fallout's decay. 712454;1402448398;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: notice that the folks who are forced to live 'in a target' on account of their profession, have rather different nukefest preparations than the crap traditionally suggested to commoners 712455;1402448450;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: all others - if they can afford it, live elsewhere, rather than building bunkers, investing in chemsuits, escape vehicles 712456;1402448543;asciilifeform;a fine example, actually, of solving wrong engineering problem 712457;1402448553;asciilifeform;consider, likewise, the infamous 'suit for surviving bear attack' 712458;1402448573;asciilifeform;most people, at least, have the sense to solve the latter problem another way. 712459;1402448621;BingoBoingo;Bunkers and chemsuits would be a bit much here. It's not that close and the wind tend to be favorable... I'm more concerned about the windstorms, but if I'm protecting against that unlike the neighbors buying new windows might as well find a solution that offers utility in a few more situations. 712460;1402448656;BingoBoingo;I mean unless Russian and Chinese missile guidance is that shitty... Then... I'm fucked... 712461;1402448682;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: russian rockets are traditionally specced to the 'texas sharpshooter' method 712462;1402448701;asciilifeform;and thus off by 200+km without fail 712463;1402448752;benkay; benkay 300 dollar shirt, no underwear works better. // by the time i feel okay about buying 300 dollar shirts, i hopefully can delegate the harrasment of neighbors. 712464;1402448756;benkay;(as well) 712465;1402448802;asciilifeform;can't speak for the chicoms. but, given as their machines are more recent, perhaps they do the obvious thing - targeting the loud, unmistakeable radio-cacophony of the target 712466;1402448809;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I was kind of hoping the Russianmilitary reforms from Georgia to Crimea would have also been evidenced in the missile fleet... 712467;1402448856;BingoBoingo;So... I could be fucked both ways... Loud radio caucophany is my anti-tempest strategy... 712468;1402448870;asciilifeform;radio-seeking guidance is sop even now. 712469;1402448879;benkay;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/09/hidden-deep-inside-the-oregon-woods-is-a-boeing-727-and-it-wasnt-parked-there-by-accident/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons 712470;1402448880;assbot;Hidden Deep Inside the Oregon Woods Is a Boeing 727 and It Wasnt Parked There by Accident | Video | TheBlaze.com 712471;1402448889;benkay;see, cascadia's full of rad old coots 712472;1402448892;asciilifeform;(for short-range rockets) 712473;1402448941;BingoBoingo;Yeah, US has been using it against any afghan with a Sat phone. 712474;1402448970;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/06/10/the_official_live_thread_of_the_south_carolina_and_virginia_primaries.html 712475;1402448970;assbot;Eric Cantor Loses: The Official Live Thread of the South Carolina and Virginia Primaries 712476;1402449057;asciilifeform;a tale was once told to me by one fellow 'in the know': russia sold gps jammers (serious ones, not the chinese pocket gizmos off ebay) to iraq, shortly prior to '03 american invasion. but iraq didn't pay the full invoice. so, the vendor neglected to remind the buyer that they must be arranged in a ring pattern and operated in unison 712477;1402449063;asciilifeform;so they all got rocketed. 712478;1402449070;asciilifeform;(triangulation) 712479;1402449129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0709 = 0.1418 BTC [+] 712480;1402449207;BingoBoingo;Ah, the if Oracle was a Defense Contractor strategy............ ===== 712481;1402449346;mircea_popescu; benkay 300 dollar shirt, no underwear works better. // by the time i feel okay about buying 300 dollar shirts, i hopefully can delegate the harrasment of neighbors. << and peeing ? 712482;1402449379;asciilifeform;on battleship, harass neighbours with... exocets 712483;1402449410;BingoBoingo;Unless the neighbors are British... They probably have countermeasures for that by now... 712484;1402449443;dub;benkay reinforces another jew stereotype 712485;1402449456;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: there can be countermeasure against 1,2,3... but not five. see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-02-2014&bots=true#488932 712486;1402449457;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 712487;1402449473;mircea_popescu;!up rmerritt 712488;1402449542;mircea_popescu; a tale was once told to me by one fellow 'in the know': russia sold gps jammers (serious ones, not the chinese pocket gizmos off ebay) to iraq, shortly prior to '03 american invasion. but iraq didn't pay the full invoice. so, the vendor neglected to remind the buyer that they must be arranged in a ring pattern and operated in unison << i heard the same story passed off as successful intel mission, stole 712489;1402449542;mircea_popescu;the crucial bit of spec, rendered whole thing useless. 712490;1402449550;mike_c;what does ring pattern have to do with it? HARM busts up jammers regardless I thought 712491;1402449560;mike_c;just homes in on strongest source. 712492;1402449580;asciilifeform;mike_c: consider the question of how one finds the strongest source. 712493;1402449588;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I'm guessing you never got the Radio merit badge in the Boyu Scouts? 712494;1402449596;mike_c;i did not. 712495;1402449602;BingoBoingo;Ah 712496;1402449602;mircea_popescu;mike_c if properly geometrically spaced the harm misses 712497;1402449611;mike_c;what, it plunks in the middle? 712498;1402449616;mircea_popescu;sort-of yea 712499;1402449637;asciilifeform;beauty is, you can now do experiment (vs gedankenexperiment) yourself, just need ~$100 and local computer junk shop 712500;1402449644;mike_c;and a HARM 712501;1402449647;asciilifeform;buy 'wifi' locator keychain and a box of old routers. 712502;1402449654;mircea_popescu;mike_c just the seeking part. 712503;1402449657;mircea_popescu;diy, 50 bux 712504;1402449675;mircea_popescu;or yeah i guess asciilifeform's version is even better. 712505;1402449704;mike_c;well, there is the other easy way to hose gps jammers. 712506;1402449711;mike_c;as long as you know which way is up.. 712507;1402449717;mike_c;ignore signals from down. 712508;1402449722;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: tale: take with requisite grain of whatever salt, it was told by a russian 712509;1402449732;asciilifeform;!up jborkl 712510;1402449740;jborkl;Thank you 712511;1402449745;mircea_popescu;mike_c you can't always identify directionality like that 712512;1402449758;mike_c;not always, but when you are designing for it you can. 712513;1402449774;asciilifeform;mike_c: clouds - moon, if you want! are... reflective. 712514;1402449786;asciilifeform;if you need, it can 'come from down' 712515;1402449787;mircea_popescu;mike_c not only the ionosphere reflects, but 712516;1402449792;BingoBoingo;And it must be remembered "ring does not necessarily mean 1 ring or centered rings 712517;1402449795;mircea_popescu;plenty of times the sattelites will be under your horizon 712518;1402449807;asciilifeform;signal from the genuine gps sat is... below thermal noise. 712519;1402449818;asciilifeform;(how do we pick it up? open a textbook, pll...) 712520;1402449839;mircea_popescu; signal from the genuine gps sat is... below thermal noise. << exactly, and directionality is w-expensive. 712521;1402449857;BingoBoingo;Subtly move the center of the complex from the 1337 command center to the squash court 712522;1402449868;asciilifeform;gps would be worth very little if you could only use the signal that is 'up' 712523;1402449871;asciilifeform;think about it 712524;1402449874;jborkl;My server has been at 70k kbps for the last 24 hours 712525;1402449891;jborkl;Not sure if it is traffic or ? 712526;1402449896;mircea_popescu;jborkl welcome to the internet. 712527;1402449911;mircea_popescu;;;calc 7000 * 3600 * 24 / (1024 ** 3) 712528;1402449912;gribble;0.563263893127 712529;1402449922;asciilifeform;jborkl: 'tcpdump', 'wireshark', etc 712530;1402449924;mike_c;asciilifeform: i am thinking. but i believe this problem has been worked on over the years. like with stronger gps sats, no? 712531;1402449948;mircea_popescu;mike_c sort-of. obviously it's an endless battle etc. but it's not nearly as lopsided as you seem to think. 712532;1402449969;BingoBoingo;mike_c: GPS sats only get so strong. Most "GPS" relies on indigenous signals to achieve a finer resolution 712533;1402449970;mike_c;i think it wasn't that lopsided in operation saddam 712534;1402449974;mike_c;but i think it is now 712535;1402449980;asciilifeform;mike_c: there are practical limits for electrical supply in orbit. (russia launched reactors, pissing on treaties, for this reason) 712536;1402450010;mircea_popescu;mike_c actually the 2nd gulf war was probably the pinacle of us military tech advantage 712537;1402450021;mircea_popescu;and i'll be it'll never be reached again in the lifetime of that republic. 712538;1402450024;BingoBoingo;Most under rated turn of the century film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186566/ 712539;1402450025;assbot;Space Cowboys (2000) - IMDb 712540;1402450039;mircea_popescu;it certainly isn't nowhere near today. 712541;1402450044;asciilifeform;modern rocket men have taken an interest in terrain tracking, gravimetric maps, etc. - things the opponent can't jam 712542;1402450048;asciilifeform;for this reason. 712543;1402450081;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform meanwhile opponent is researching how to fuck with the [measured] gravity 712544;1402450084;mircea_popescu;also for this reason 712545;1402450105;BingoBoingo;And the US is abandoning it's premier attack aircraft... 712546;1402450117;mike_c;yeah but we got lots of uav's 712547;1402450124;mircea_popescu;but anyway, the chinese extremely heavy investment in cheap, easy to deploy, rocket defenses and the way research has been going, it's quite clear we're entering another pikeman phase. 712548;1402450137;asciilifeform;obligatory: 712549;1402450142;asciilifeform;;;google you and the atomic bomb 712550;1402450142;gribble;George Orwell: You and the Atomic Bomb: ; Orwell's 5 greatest essays: No. 4, "You and the Atomic Bomb" - Los ...: ; Fifty Orwell Essays - Project Gutenberg Australia: 712551;1402450160;BingoBoingo;The pikeman phase was my least favorite part of Civ II 712552;1402450194;BingoBoingo;Unless facing Ghandi when it becomes the nuclear age. 712553;1402450237;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo in actual history it wasn't so bad. 712554;1402450239;BingoBoingo;Ghandi was just a Brown Edward Teller 712555;1402450250;mircea_popescu;problem is civ was written from a broken (french revolutionary) pov. 712556;1402450258;mircea_popescu;were you born in a less dumb culture it'd have been more pleasant. 712557;1402450277;asciilifeform;gotta pity the kid who learns history from 'civilopaedia' 712558;1402450293;mircea_popescu;you mean everyone on reddit ? 712559;1402450294;asciilifeform;'i built Woman's Suffrage, can now research Atomic Power !' 712560;1402450297;BingoBoingo;Well, I eventually started playing Civ with the aim of maintaining an Iberian City state and nothing else... 712561;1402450308;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo this may then be relevant to your interests : 712562;1402450322;*;asciilifeform started and ended with civ-1 712563;1402450333;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/sid-meiers-civilisation-3/ 712564;1402450335;assbot;Sid Meier’s Civilisation (3) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 712565;1402450337;mircea_popescu;me single town owning world. 712566;1402450430;mircea_popescu;shit sorry wrong link 712567;1402450432;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/revelatie-nocturna/ < that one 712568;1402450433;assbot;Revelatie nocturna pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 712569;1402450436;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Never had access to the civilopedia... Civ II was the only Civ at walmart and I was running a 486 at the time 712570;1402450491;mircea_popescu;wasn;t it in game ? 712571;1402450506;mircea_popescu;anyway, 70k gold +1k per turn. sexy! 712572;1402450511;asciilifeform;mine was an ascii turd that came with the warez. 712573;1402450574;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It was in game, but... beyond my ability to load... Even Windows software back then was modular enough the rest of the game worked. 712574;1402450589;mircea_popescu;nice huh 712575;1402450596;BingoBoingo;That is a beautiful situation you fell into 712576;1402450654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00084872 = 2.3764 BTC [-] 712577;1402450690;BingoBoingo;Another thing I loved about the early civ games was "customizing" the sprites and rules. 712578;1402450700;*;asciilifeform played as barbarians... 712579;1402450719;BingoBoingo;:D 712580;1402450744;*;asciilifeform ashamed, probably spent more time patching games than playing 712581;1402450774;BingoBoingo;Nothing to be ashamed of. The thing is back then, that was the fun. 712582;1402450898;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8555 @ 0.00084942 = 7.2668 BTC [+] {2} 712583;1402450905;BingoBoingo;rules.txt has to be one of my top 5 favorite files of all time 712584;1402450936;jborkl;So I am guessing I am getting ddos ? My CDN also says it served 200mb today. I will have to use tcpdump tomorrow 712585;1402450950;jborkl;And see what's up 712586;1402450983;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: speaking of radio triangulation, cryptome is back - with: http://cryptome.org/2014/06/dea-nsa-sandkey.pdf 712587;1402451002;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu, others: http://cryptome.org/2014/06/iron-box-security.htm 712588;1402451028;asciilifeform;(summary: fellow read 'the mice' or likewise woke up, pessimist) 712589;1402451045;BingoBoingo;Wait, drug trafickers use voice on VHF? not Morse plus One time pad? 712590;1402451077;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: sit down for this one. they don't use pgp either... 712591;1402451089;mircea_popescu;jborkl http://trilema.com/2014/awstats-and-stuff/ 712592;1402451090;assbot;Awstats and stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 712593;1402451101;mircea_popescu;trilema serves 5gb a day on average. maybe you're just becoming famous ? 712594;1402451108;BingoBoingo;Fuck... If Farc catches me... I might get an actual IT job. 712595;1402451121;jborkl;Well I guess that is what I am trying to figure out 712596;1402451128;asciilifeform;'But maybe "computer" is the wrong word. It's actually an iron box with a padlock. Also known as a computer whose security model is simple enough to understand and whose operating system is known completely enough to trust.' 712597;1402451133;mircea_popescu;so grep the log for unique ips 712598;1402451151;benkay; Fuck... If Farc catches me... I might get an actual IT job. // worse things could happen 712599;1402451168;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform still with the fucking pdfs. anything good in that sandkey thing ? 712600;1402451185;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo more or less summarized the one interesting gibblet 712601;1402451191;mircea_popescu;aok 712602;1402451222;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: there was talk a few yrs ago (russian) regarding a mesh net built on modern radio hardware in mexican mountains. supposedly destroyed (via agenture methods, no fancy tech) 712603;1402451237;benkay;;;google agenture 712604;1402451238;gribble;Agenture apparel manufacturing, Bestbase group | LinkedIn: ; Gabay-agenture.net: ; Agenture Cortese « KOOPmedia: 712605;1402451255;benkay;? 712606;1402451261;asciilifeform;benkay: 'humint' to english folks 712607;1402451262;asciilifeform;sorry 712608;1402451276;benkay;no need to apologize for my poor education 712609;1402451292;BingoBoingo;-assets, where crackpots become spies 712610;1402451301;benkay;agenture - huh, as in the acts of agents? 712611;1402451308;asciilifeform;aye 712612;1402451313;asciilifeform;as in, recruiting traitors 712613;1402451335;asciilifeform;(what the word 'spy' means to folks who actually earn their bread by spying) 712614;1402451461;BingoBoingo;Oh, that was an interesting link to cause Firefox to crash... 712615;1402451466;asciilifeform;lol 712616;1402451473;asciilifeform;stack trace? 712617;1402451483;asciilifeform;or BingoBoingo doesn't like money 712618;1402451506;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: How do I get a stack trace? 712619;1402451519;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: your favourite debugger 712620;1402451533;BingoBoingo;You have to remember, Librarian... HTML and twitter were what we called technology 712621;1402451534;asciilifeform;if on linux box, check syslog 712622;1402451568;BingoBoingo;Explain this to me like I'm Usagi 712623;1402451581;BingoBoingo;!up jborkl 712624;1402451592;asciilifeform;re: humint: intro textbook: 712625;1402451593;asciilifeform;http://nekaka.com/d/WNRkvY3LBE 712626;1402451593;assbot;NEKAKA - Download File - spies.pdf 712627;1402451605;dub;type> dmesg 712628;1402451691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0709 = 0.1418 BTC [+] 712629;1402451844;asciilifeform;^ ignore the sensational cover, it's a pretty good schoolbook 712630;1402451875;benkay;downloading, but it's definitely going in below the Hathaway letters. 712631;1402451883;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Mozilla crash report, dmesg about to go in dpaste https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ef1152b5-3111-4239-a51b-0065c2140611 712632;1402451886;assbot;[@ SetStyleSheetReference] - Firefox 29.0 Crash Report - Report ID: ef1152b5-3111-4239-a51b-0065c2140611 712633;1402451912;diametric;asciilifeform: you're still online, so i take it you didn't drown today 712634;1402451925;asciilifeform;diametric: nope. but front yard kinda dissolved. 712635;1402451935;diametric;fun 712636;1402452084;*;asciilifeform experienced drowned computers one and only time - on 2nd floor of a gigantic office park. no prizes for guessing how 712637;1402452095;BingoBoingo;Fuck, why is Nigbuntu still running on any of my machines. 712638;1402452100;asciilifeform;(fire alarm, flooders) 712639;1402452149;BingoBoingo;NIGbuntu is trying to tell me I don't have any system logger 712640;1402452240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07075196 = 3.5376 BTC [-] {3} 712641;1402452257;diametric;nigbuntu? 712642;1402452406;BingoBoingo;diametric: That's it's name nao. 712643;1402452670;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Can I trust you if I send you this machine's Var partition all GPG'd up somehow? 712644;1402452698;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: afraid you're on your own for this one, my hands are full 712645;1402452708;asciilifeform;but it's a good educational exercise. 712646;1402452721;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: ask diametric perhaps 712647;1402452743;asciilifeform;or put a bounty. 712648;1402452767;diametric;use truecrypt. hehehehe 712649;1402452773;asciilifeform;lolz 712650;1402452794;BingoBoingo;Or... this SSD is getting up there in years... Might be time to get a barrel... 712651;1402452813;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: try magnesium 712652;1402452842;BingoBoingo;A bit of anthracite and oak should get NAND up to adequate temperatures. 712653;1402452860;asciilifeform;in glass jar (outdoor, just in case.) see if you can get the stoichiometry of air in jar and Mg right 712654;1402452896;BingoBoingo;But... How do I cook porksteaks on a Jar... 712655;1402452896;asciilifeform;(recall the old-fashioned camera flash bulbs) 712656;1402452919;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo has an odd penchant for eating byproducts of combusting strange 712657;1402452945;BingoBoingo;It makes me stronger in death... I shall not decompose... 712658;1402452966;asciilifeform;[insert the tired old mozart joke here] 712659;1402452978;BingoBoingo;Or Bentham... 712660;1402452988;asciilifeform;;;google mozart decomposing 712661;1402452988;gribble;"Mozart: Decomposing Since 1791." - Threadless.com - Best t-shirts ...: ; Musician Jokes - A Joke a Day: ; Mozart Decomposing: Musician Jokes at Jokes.Net: 712662;1402453066;BingoBoingo;So for purposes where linux is not readily replaced by a BSD I might need a new flavor. Is gentoo the consensus sane choice? 712663;1402453084;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: forget consensus 712664;1402453100;BingoBoingo;That's a good point. 712665;1402453113;asciilifeform;i personally like gentoo because i'm a *bsd exile. 712666;1402453117;asciilifeform;your mileage may vary. 712667;1402453125;benkay;what exiled you from bsd? 712668;1402453133;asciilifeform;hardware support 712669;1402453147;BingoBoingo;;;later tell ThickasTheives Altcoin is holding me back. 712670;1402453148;gribble;The operation succeeded. 712671;1402453212;asciilifeform;gentoo is arguably a 'bad life decision' - like the folks who insist on bicycle for commuting 712672;1402453220;BingoBoingo;I'm also wondering did firefox crash because of tabs or because of Cryptome. Cryptome crashing Firefox seems like a sloppy thing, but then aain they passed Snowden on the background check 712673;1402453226;asciilifeform;you'll have problems you never knew existed - in exchange for various plus 712674;1402453247;dub;ff crashed because ff 712675;1402453281;BingoBoingo;I embrace bad life decisions like that. I detest Bicycles though because they endager nerves that are too valuable... 712676;1402453294;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo - understand that not all crashes are exploitable 712677;1402453300;BingoBoingo;ANd instead drive a plastic car. 712678;1402453353;asciilifeform;the choice of what kind of wheeled coffin to perish in is an intensely personal matter... 712679;1402453434;BingoBoingo;It isn't just that it crashed, it is that it can't copy /var into a .tar.gz in a timely manner. 712680;1402453434;BingoBoingo;Even if it isn't exploited it sucks around the edges. 712681;1402453464;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: hanging on locked file? 712682;1402453485;Namworld;At last. Each time I tried to reconnect I was disconnected after like 1 second. 712683;1402453510;BingoBoingo;Nah, hanging, because blocking itself in a controlled way. One core is at 100% the other lazing like usual. 712684;1402453764;benkay;wb Namworld 712685;1402453806;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: re: choice of softs: helps to sit and think about what you actually want from the machine, other than heating the room 712686;1402453856;asciilifeform;(not only about what you don't want) 712687;1402453920;BingoBoingo;Hmmm... OpenSolaris has a Linux compatibility layer and I like CDE... Never tried it on the Portable yet... 712688;1402453941;BingoBoingo;Imma drink moar and think about it. 712689;1402453948;asciilifeform;for a masochist - minix... 712690;1402453963;asciilifeform;;;google men were men and wrote own device drivers 712691;1402453963;gribble;Linus Torvalds - Wikiquote: ; Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT - Google Groups: ; Linux Device Drivers, 2nd Edition: Preface - XML.com: 712692;1402454019;BingoBoingo;The problem with Minix is when I read a FAQ and they assume a hypervisor... It's like a girl taking off her panties to release the smell of Candida... 712693;1402454043;asciilifeform;for unsatisfied masochist - 'menuet' 712694;1402454051;BingoBoingo;A fool me once sort of deal... 712695;1402454072;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: what minix is that? certainly not the one in my schoolbook 712696;1402454084;BingoBoingo;Minix 3 712697;1402454112;asciilifeform;wow, never knew it went retarded 712698;1402454118;asciilifeform;get '1' 712699;1402454124;decimation;asciilifeform: so I see you tried kicad - that seems to be the latest open source fad cad 712700;1402454137;asciilifeform;decimation: now if only it... worked 712701;1402454143;BingoBoingo;I'd confess I'm tempted to run A/UX on this machine in a hypervisor, but... I don't want this channel to assume stockholm syndrome... 712702;1402454154;decimation;what part failed - the autorouter? 712703;1402454174;asciilifeform;decimation: it. and the gui (shits snow on the screen) 712704;1402454184;asciilifeform;i suspect they only test under winblows 712705;1402454205;asciilifeform;took me a week to get it to build, too 712706;1402454207;decimation;heh. wouldn't suprise me. For some weird reason the only working ee design software runs on windows 712707;1402454215;decimation;and costs a fortune 712708;1402454242;asciilifeform;other than cadsoft's. it's rather turdalicious, but usable 712709;1402454253;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00085336 = 5.3762 BTC [+] 712710;1402454261;asciilifeform;in electric world, open source sorta never really happened 712711;1402454265;decimation;back in my undergrad days we used to use orcad on solaris - I'm sure support for that was dropped long ago 712712;1402454270;asciilifeform;with possible exception of 'magic' 712713;1402454272;asciilifeform;(vlsi package) 712714;1402454286;BingoBoingo;Brb 712715;1402454294;decimation;well, and 5,000 versions of spice, all of which suck 712716;1402454326;asciilifeform;'spice' is pretty good for what it is (mechanism for solving unsolvable problem) 712717;1402454383;decimation;it's just that no one wants to come up with new ideas for the most part. this qucs thing is the only new idea I've heard about in awhile http://qucs.sourceforge.net/ 712718;1402454384;assbot;Qucs project: Quite Universal Circuit Simulator 712719;1402454416;asciilifeform;used, wasn't particularly impressed 712720;1402454417;decimation;wrt the autorouter, I think it is well known in the pcb industry that they all suck 712721;1402454427;asciilifeform;varying degrees of suction 712722;1402454433;asciilifeform;the difference is not irrelevant in practice 712723;1402454461;decimation;seems like that problem is due for a really good ai based solver 712724;1402454467;asciilifeform;e.g. does it 'let you help', or resists valiantly 712725;1402454492;asciilifeform;due for a really good ai << np-complete. good luck. 712726;1402454515;decimation;well, many problems are NP-complete yet significant gains have been made 712727;1402454533;asciilifeform;there are not (and probably cannot be) 'good' autorouter, but there are plenty of terrible ones. 712728;1402454538;asciilifeform;like kikad's. 712729;1402454568;decimation;I remember orcad's autorouter was crap back in the day. I would be deeply disappointed to shell out $$$ and have crapware 712730;1402454598;asciilifeform;decimation: the field suffers from 'golden toilet' problem 712731;1402454601;BingoBoingo;My this looks so much better (Plz noone try to send me N.vir over client to client)... 712732;1402454608;asciilifeform;i.e. 100% of users are paying out of someone else's pocket 712733;1402454677;decimation;yeah that's a good point, that's why the software companies get away with charging $$$ for crapware 712734;1402454680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+] 712735;1402454687;asciilifeform;'enterprise!' 712736;1402454688;decimation;"we'll fix it in in the next release, etc" 712737;1402454715;decimation;Today I went snorkeling in the shadow of Larry Ellison's private island 712738;1402454716;BingoBoingo;Introduce religion and then bugs become "canon" 712739;1402454770;decimation;it amazes me that crapware can buy a such real estate 712740;1402454791;*;BingoBoingo wonder this if this nest of lies within lies can work on the portable... 712741;1402454839;asciilifeform;the real nasty re: orcad isn't the cost (leech it) but that you end up in an os with no sane infrastructure (where's grep? etc) 712742;1402454856;asciilifeform;and condemned to use various cockeyed substitutes provided 'helpfully' by the turdware folk 712743;1402454874;BingoBoingo;I'm pretty sure one of these layers have grep.... 712744;1402454893;asciilifeform;at one point, some years ago, i tried to build the turd intel was passing off as their version of 'open source bios' 712745;1402454902;asciilifeform;not only did it not build, but the entire tool chain was... winblows 712746;1402454910;asciilifeform;MB of... .bat script 712747;1402454915;asciilifeform;and other unspeakables 712748;1402454945;asciilifeform;if you ever sit and 'my life suxx', consider that people... live with this 712749;1402454956;BingoBoingo;I have to say I constantly under rate the Sun 5 712750;1402454975;decimation;from surfing the various VHDL crapware packages, it seems the universal language for automation is... tcl 712751;1402454992;BingoBoingo;decimation: Blame Sun for Tcl 712752;1402455019;BingoBoingo;Their promotion of TCL is what pushed them into making and forcing Java 712753;1402455027;BingoBoingo;And now the world burns 712754;1402455036;asciilifeform;ask why there is a desert, not why the oasis is a puddle of piss 712755;1402455062;asciilifeform;(camel gotta piss) 712756;1402455066;BingoBoingo;Or Maybe just I burn, because I need to rotate this pizza box that has been running for months. 712757;1402455085;decimation;amazingly, the overlap between those who know how to actually program and those who demand design software is nearly the null set 712758;1402455085;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 712759;1402455138;BingoBoingo;Also amazing is how there is no effort to educate people into the overlap 712760;1402455138;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 712761;1402455148;decimation;something other than market forces are operating here 712762;1402455163;asciilifeform;educate whom? the chinese folks graduating from american schools, who will design with a crayon if ordered to? 712763;1402455168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00085575 = 6.1614 BTC [+] 712764;1402455184;asciilifeform;the set of folks who design hardware and actually give a shit about workflow (or their lives) is approximately null. 712765;1402455205;BingoBoingo;Of course the chinese (and Indian) folks 712766;1402455215;decimation;about a third of my us ee undergrad class was chinese (like off the boat, not second generation). Most of them couldn't design anything, but they generally aced the math tests 712767;1402455311;asciilifeform;cad app is one of those cases where a 'proper' solution involves essentially re-creating a smbx box 712768;1402455322;asciilifeform;on top of whatever os you're stuck with 712769;1402455322;BingoBoingo;"Smoking rock candy is a great way to gain all the social benefits of meth use with none of the open sores. 712770;1402455322;BingoBoingo;Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_21183_6-unexpected-things-i-learned-from-being-drug-dealer_p2.html#ixzz34INw2rHH 712771;1402455322;assbot;6 Unexpected Things I Learned From Being a Drug Dealer | Cracked.com 712772;1402455322;BingoBoingo;" 712773;1402455352;BingoBoingo;Y tu Sun 5 712774;1402455356;decimation;ascii that is a good insight (lack of engineers caring about their own lives), the irony is that those who are designing hardware generally care an aweful lot about the efficiency of their design target 712775;1402455358;asciilifeform;(in approximately the same way emacs does) 712776;1402455372;asciilifeform;decimation: by and large they care about... paycheck 712777;1402455437;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: from your link: http://www.cracked.com/article_21165_6-works-propaganda-that-backfired-in-hilarious-ways.html 712778;1402455438;assbot;6 Works of Propaganda That Backfired in Hilarious Ways | Cracked.com 712779;1402455457;decimation;ascii as in super mario brothers? 712780;1402455473;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.24 = 1.92 BTC [+] 712781;1402455708;asciilifeform;decimation: ? 712782;1402455717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.24979999 = 0.9992 BTC [+] 712783;1402455721;BingoBoingo;I have a feeling many famous last words begin with "I'm switching to CERN linux, no way the NSA fucks with science..." 712784;1402455858;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Was it price of principle that kept the symbolics pagemaster from parting with their schematics... 712785;1402455876;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: afaik he's a sworn vassal of the estate. and some bozo bought it. 712786;1402455894;decimation;What did you mean by "SMBX"? 712787;1402455897;decimation;;;google smbx box 712788;1402455898;gribble;SMBX Tutorial: How to make a message box - YouTube: ; SMBX Level Editor Tutorial | Advanced | Layers & Events - YouTube: ; Super Mario Bros X - Cheat Codes - YouTube: 712789;1402455903;asciilifeform;symbolics corp. 712790;1402455908;decimation;ah 712791;1402455910;asciilifeform;used to be on 'nasdaq' as smbx 712792;1402455938;BingoBoingo;;;google adam sandler "the price is wrong" 712793;1402455939;gribble;The Price Is Wrong, Bitch - Happy Gilmore (8/9) Movie CLIP (1996 ...: ; The Price is Wrong - YouTube: ; The Price Is Wrong Bitch GIFs on Giphy: 712794;1402455956;decimation;apparently there is a massive demoer scene for super mario brothers X 712795;1402455972;decimation;goes to show how forgotten symbolics is I guess 712796;1402456002;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://www.symbolics-dks.com 712797;1402456042;asciilifeform;david lives in a little house, generously stocked with parts, and fixes the remaining machines for a modest fee. 712798;1402456059;asciilifeform;not sure if he has any left to sell these days 712799;1402456077;asciilifeform;but if he does, and you want one, he'll pick up phone, invite you over. 712800;1402456083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6894 @ 0.00085334 = 5.8829 BTC [-] {2} 712801;1402456105;asciilifeform;(that's where i got mine) 712802;1402456139;asciilifeform;the man is in his 80s i think 712803;1402456177;BingoBoingo;A drive sounds tempting atm, furthest east I;ve been is 'New Harmony" Indiana. I still need to drink on this matter some more. 712804;1402456182;asciilifeform;the only other 'playing characters' in the outfit are, afaik, a fellow named kalman reti (software support; wrote the x86-64 emu) 712805;1402456194;asciilifeform;and, of course, the owner. 712806;1402456221;BingoBoingo;Reti did that beautiful presentation you embeded. 712807;1402456221;asciilifeform;for some years, it was a new york (?) serial con man, who bought and sold corpses of old companies 712808;1402456225;asciilifeform;died with millions in debt 712809;1402456241;asciilifeform;even had artificial heart, bought on a kited cheque 712810;1402456251;decimation;I wonder if you can run modern emacs on one of those things 712811;1402456253;decimation;lol 712812;1402456254;asciilifeform;didn't know a thing about computers 712813;1402456270;decimation;reminds me of that "rabite" guy that MP recently unarchived 712814;1402456285;BingoBoingo;rabite is a different monster... 712815;1402456321;asciilifeform;a source that didn't want to be named told me that one dr john mallery (mit) bought it for fire sale price 712816;1402456327;asciilifeform;after topping (con man) died 712817;1402456339;asciilifeform;mallery wrote cl-http, infamous for draconian license 712818;1402456346;asciilifeform;for some years it ran www.whitehouse 712819;1402456354;BingoBoingo;Rabite's purpose is not correctness, security, or anything else understandable.... Rabit is soley for the lulz. 712820;1402456405;asciilifeform;mallery is a 'man of wealth and taste', possibly consults for nsa & friends. 712821;1402456430;decimation;wouldn't be surprising. USG has all kinds of ancient irreplacable computer systems 712822;1402456441;BingoBoingo;Wealth in itself is nothing without taste. 712823;1402456447;asciilifeform;what the present-day symbolics corp. is for is not a secret: 712824;1402456510;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I envy you that Sympolics ended on a high note and Apple outlived its masterpiece the SE/30. 712825;1402456556;asciilifeform;http://usaspending.gov/search?form_fields=%7B%22search_term%22%3A%22SYMBOLICS+TECHNOLOGY+INCORPORATED%22%2C%22recipient_duns%22%3A%5B%22966978090%22%5D%7D&sort_by=dollars&per_page=25 712826;1402456601;asciilifeform;it brings in a few $10k/yr in maintenance contracts, dated into eternity 712827;1402456633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.024386 = 0.1463 BTC [-] 712828;1402456646;decimation;Interesting. Fort Belvoir. Someone in DoD is a fan of these things 712829;1402456664;asciilifeform;decimation: if i recall, they do cartography there 712830;1402456691;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Would you venture to guess at which post of my blog might pass the Mircea OpenBSD one in the next few months? 712831;1402456714;asciilifeform;can't say that i can 712832;1402456746;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It's my Urbit one. Apparently the Google/NSA complex really dislikes Nock too.... 712833;1402456768;asciilifeform;re: symbolics: if anyone has a $mil or two in their sofa cushions, can probably buy it. but then you'll be conscripted into supporting the ancient contracts. 712834;1402456782;asciilifeform;it's worth about what a decent restaurant in a small town is. 712835;1402456793;BingoBoingo;So... $10 mill can piss on the contracts? 712836;1402456833;asciilifeform;i doubt the contract will be honoured when dks finally succumbs to old age 712837;1402456845;asciilifeform;there is scarcely anyone left alive who could take his work 712838;1402456864;decimation;well, $10k per year is hardly worth much. but if one could resurrect the whole project, complete with hardware... 712839;1402456877;asciilifeform;it's more like 40-50k 712840;1402456881;BingoBoingo;Can and Can pretend, this distinction enabled the F-35 712841;1402456916;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: unlike the airplane folks, this is a case where the rubber actually hits the road. there's a couple dozen ancient boxes, that cannot be replaced. 712842;1402456968;asciilifeform;proggys dating to gulf war 1 (at least) for which there will be no substitute 712843;1402456969;asciilifeform;etc 712844;1402456977;decimation;well, the can be "replaced", FAA style 712845;1402456983;asciilifeform;sure 712846;1402456995;asciilifeform;AmEx was once the largest customer of smbx 712847;1402456997;BingoBoingo;Airplanes hit the road as well. I hope I can find a kind Brazillian tribe to adopt a pastie like me when America surrenders the world's only successful CAS plane. 712848;1402457010;decimation;these people have been "replacing" routing software since the 90's http://hf.tc.faa.gov/projects/stars.htm 712849;1402457011;assbot;Standard Terminal Automation Replacement System (STARS) 712850;1402457014;asciilifeform;they sold thousands of surplus boxes when they moved to some 'enterprise' crudware 712851;1402457067;decimation;this reminds me of the "point of sale" system upgrades I've witnessed at various US bodegas 712852;1402457081;asciilifeform;(the lisp machines ran a fraud detector heuristic gizmo, afaik the first of its kind.) 712853;1402457095;decimation;old mainframe based serial terminals - reliable and invulnerable to hackers (at least, at the lowest layers) 712854;1402457104;BingoBoingo;Also, did anyone else here have reason to learn Ubuntu 12.04 ships without syslogd or rsyslog??? 712855;1402457117;decimation;how could any thinking person consider a winblows interface an 'upgrade'? 712856;1402457167;decimation;using a mouse on a cash register is going to be demonstrably slower for data entry for one thing 712857;1402457167;asciilifeform;the way this usually works is that old vendor (say, ibm) either 'end of lifes' or decides to charge a fortune for support 712858;1402457174;asciilifeform;microshit comes and offers to 'help' 712859;1402457175;BingoBoingo;decimation: THe use case I find for fancier DE's over wimple wm's is portables. Smaller the machine the more pointy clicky is a benefit. 712860;1402457175;asciilifeform;etc 712861;1402457181;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00085386 = 7.514 BTC [+] {3} 712862;1402457214;decimation;well portable ipad based bodegas or whatever are a corner case. I'm talking about Target 712863;1402457217;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: on the contrary, using portables as a student is what got me using 'ratpoison' 712864;1402457233;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: try using 'clitoral mouse' on the old toshibas, for example 712865;1402457241;decimation;I wonder if whoever decided to "upgrade" the target POS system to winblows was fired or promoted? 712866;1402457269;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Really. Clitoral mouse pushes me into a left side xfce panel. 712867;1402457291;BingoBoingo;Cwm makes me want a real keyboard. 712868;1402457291;decimation;I recently decided to force myself to use emacs for sole text editor, took me about a week to get the movement stuff down. THere's no excuse for a cash register not to be purely keyboard basd 712869;1402457329;asciilifeform;decimation: nothing like the target corp. 'hack' takes place without the cooperation of managerial traitors 712870;1402457331;BingoBoingo;decimation: What about bar codes. Reisters are run by tards. 712871;1402457365;decimation;bar code readers are a trival add-on character device 712872;1402457371;BingoBoingo;Also.. am I actually drunk or am I coding messages... 712873;1402457413;decimation;I remember my high school days worked at the local library - used IBM serial terminal with "scan gun" that would insert code at the appropriate spot on the terminal screen 712874;1402457414;BingoBoingo;And when the hell will Pinay cam girls start shaving... 712875;1402457444;asciilifeform;decimation: i distinctly recall when the libraries here went winblows 712876;1402457464;asciilifeform;threw out hundreds of perfectly good ibm green screens 712877;1402457479;decimation;yeah exactly with great model m style keyboards 712878;1402457493;decimation;I think unisys bought the main library vendor 712879;1402457509;BingoBoingo;I still can't fucking believe RDF beat Dublin core. 712880;1402457539;BingoBoingo;LIke Nigbungu brainwashed everyone. 712881;1402457585;BingoBoingo;And I have yet to verify a nigger with black skin. I've only met white niggers. 712882;1402457701;decimation;re: managerial traitors : the problem is that somehow standard criminal and civil liability law doesn't apply for some reason 712883;1402457728;asciilifeform;decimation: u.s. software industry was essentially exempted from ordinary consumer liability by statute some time in the '80s 712884;1402457730;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2498 = 1.249 BTC [+] 712885;1402457756;asciilifeform;don't make the mistake of thinking of this as a 'prime mover' though 712886;1402457773;asciilifeform;the bureaucrats simply bent under the weight of the seemingly inevitable 712887;1402457791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 39 @ 0.024389 = 0.9512 BTC [+] 712888;1402457815;BingoBoingo;Eh, come Septemeber one project of mine might consist of making interesting case law. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/ 712889;1402457817;assbot;Inconvenience | Bingo Blog 712890;1402457831;decimation;for example, I read this story in the morning paper: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/25730375/estate-of-late-state-health-director-files 712891;1402457831;assbot;Estate of Loretta Fuddy, state health director killed in plane c - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL 712892;1402457870;decimation;the burea-tard who signed Obama's birth certificate died in a plane crash (survived the crash but "had irregular heart beat" after 60 minutes in the water) 712893;1402457877;BingoBoingo;Are there any lawyers in the Illinois bar here? I'd be interested in making contact if so. 712894;1402457896;asciilifeform;that makes what, 6? 7? 'interesting' people died in private airplanes in the past year or two 712895;1402457903;asciilifeform;in usa. 712896;1402457914;decimation;her estate is suing pratt & whittney for not having fixed the "forseeable" problem of the metal fatigue destroying a prop 712897;1402457933;BingoBoingo;Fuck, I've have never been measured having a "normal" heart beat. 712898;1402457957;decimation;how the hell does she get the right to sue a real engine maker, yet no one can sue larry ellison (she died not far from his private hawaiian island) 712899;1402458003;BingoBoingo;Because Pratt is in the engine industry and Ellison is in the problem industry. 712900;1402458045;BingoBoingo;Also aside from torsades de points no ununsual heart beats are that... rare 712901;1402458096;asciilifeform;what are they to do - sue the nice folks who put the thermite limpet in the turbine the night before? 712902;1402458111;decimation;well, "died of cardiac arrythmia" could be more properly stated as "died of being old, fat and out of shape" 712903;1402458154;BingoBoingo;Some people therapeutically have abnormal heartbeats 712904;1402458155;asciilifeform;or should they sue the bartender who mixed the a saxitoxin cocktail? 712905;1402458157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.024389 = 0.4878 BTC [+] 712906;1402458158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.251 = 0.502 BTC [+] {2} 712907;1402458186;decimation;yeah no doubt, but those people probably could be identified and treated with various medical devices 712908;1402458232;BingoBoingo;What devices, hearts are easy to treat pharmaceutically. Hearts are awfully deterministic for organic machines. 712909;1402458241;decimation;ascii, I'm reluctant to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon because the usg seems unable to accomplish anything "good" very well 712910;1402458251;decimation;why would they be able to accomplish anything "evil" well? 712911;1402458257;*;asciilifeform doesn't own airplane, will probably have to settle for slipping in his bath with a cocked nailgun 712912;1402458268;decimation;or fall out of a building 712913;1402458317;asciilifeform;that, etc. 712914;1402458340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00229936 = 0.1012 BTC [-] 712915;1402458410;asciilifeform;at the rate the bureaucrats work, might die of old age. can never get quality service around here! 712916;1402458413;BingoBoingo;All of those are too obvious vor contemporary assassinations. What about was prescribed too much Vitamin D3? 712917;1402458484;BingoBoingo;Is no one creative anymore? 712918;1402458513;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: bunch of folks in ussr once died from vitamin d overdose. a tank of it was stolen and sold as 'cooking oil' (has roughly the correct appearance and consistency) 712919;1402458531;BingoBoingo;It does indeed 712920;1402458574;asciilifeform;interestingly no mention of this on pediwikia 712921;1402458609;asciilifeform;the case was an interesting one, in that it was initially treated as epidemic 712922;1402458629;asciilifeform;they ended up having to call in the soviet equivalent of a 'pinkerton' to crack the puzzle 712923;1402458637;asciilifeform;(what did the corpses have in common) 712924;1402458647;BingoBoingo;Well, my father liked to see records of how much strontium 90 us younguns got growing up. A few weeks after a med adjustment his heart gave out, but he had great bones... 712925;1402458670;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: see also the death of slobodan m. 712926;1402458736;asciilifeform;(conveniently given the 'opposite' heart rate med shortly before he was to testify) 712927;1402458825;BingoBoingo;The thing is I would have had no idea until I was accidentallied the pharmacy school's microphone slave. 712928;1402458860;BingoBoingo;Then again people with ideas are idiots. 712929;1402459049;BingoBoingo;I seriously wonder what will happen now at the late August court date since... I am not an idiot and the acting DA should not be an idiot and is not inocent. 712930;1402459072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02777999 = 0.1389 BTC [-] {3} 712931;1402459074;BingoBoingo;I mean the Federalk government has all of these weird laws to blow the whistle on. 712932;1402459102;BingoBoingo;Most people can survive the regime on civilized arrangements. 712933;1402459134;BingoBoingo;!up justusranvier 712934;1402459145;BingoBoingo;justusranvier: Plz say your dog is okay. 712935;1402459146;asciilifeform;i often wonder how many people go to bed every night, with not one nailgun wound, disappointed at their insignificance 712936;1402459193;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I've been dping that since the not at all secret saturday reveal. I am disappoint 712937;1402459195;asciilifeform;'i'm still alive, must be a tard' 712938;1402459219;BingoBoingo;Indeed. My new alias is Tater Totz 712939;1402459230;BingoBoingo;Fuck me 712940;1402459237;BingoBoingo;I suck 712941;1402459260;BingoBoingo;Oh, someone else is using the nick Tater Totz 712942;1402459279;BingoBoingo;This... must really suck for them... 712943;1402459306;*;asciilifeform doesn't get the reference - or really want to 712944;1402459331;justusranvier;BingoBoingo: She is ok 712945;1402459342;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The reference is merely to the pseudo source of carbo hydrates. 712946;1402459348;BingoBoingo;justusranvier: That is great. 712947;1402459361;justusranvier;Suppose I should tweet a follow up 712948;1402459371;BingoBoingo;Dogs are too much better than us to suffer much 712949;1402459655;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/476576385796825088 712950;1402459656;assbot;I'm a big Matt Carpenter fan. But, for Pete's sake, swing the bat! /hashtag/stlcards?src=hash 712951;1402459668;justusranvier;I am rather fond of them but I wouldn't go so far as to say "better than us". 712952;1402459709;BingoBoingo;justusranvier: Name a single person other people would knwo who inheres the property of being innocent... 712953;1402459761;justusranvier;BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/JustusRanvier/status/476575872636289024 712954;1402459762;assbot;She's doing much better than a few days ago. http://t.co/0DRu2ae1qD 712955;1402459768;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/cfarivar/status/476491781614624768 712956;1402459769;assbot;It's not everyday you get a letter from the NSA. :-) /hashtag/FOIA?src=hash http://t.co/nmXYFpF8CS 712957;1402459798;BingoBoingo;Thank you justusranvier 712958;1402459806;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/ << 712959;1402459807;assbot;On The Superiority of Monarchy (or, adnotations to Why the Worst Get on Top) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 712960;1402459810;mircea_popescu;mp proudly presents. 712961;1402459851;BingoBoingo;That is some hella timing 712962;1402459926;BingoBoingo;Also, I am probably never refering to canonical's product ever again as anything but nigbuntu. Even Windows is almost better. 712963;1402459954;mircea_popescu;lol 712964;1402459960;mircea_popescu;but why nig ? 712965;1402460008;BingoBoingo;Because in dutch "nig" and "ignorant" resolve to the same root word. 712966;1402460032;mircea_popescu;oic. 712967;1402460069;mircea_popescu;mike_c: i do :) i should clean up some of my scripts and publish them sometime.. << prolly. 712968;1402460144;BingoBoingo;Also, seriously, nothing was logging system faults. I share some blame for not ensuring this, but... Who the fuck did I expect to do this. 712969;1402460171;BingoBoingo;Lazy ass watermelon eating Mark Shuttleworth. 712970;1402460189;mircea_popescu;hm, syslog ? 712971;1402460197;BingoBoingo;Makes me hope there is NEVER a new Rhodesia. 712972;1402460221;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Firefox crashed opening a cryptome link. 712973;1402460250;mircea_popescu;uh 712974;1402460260;mircea_popescu;that's not likely a kernel errror 712975;1402460306;asciilifeform;if all (even userland) crashes were exploitable - we'd all be rich 712976;1402460316;asciilifeform;(or just very sad) 712977;1402460373;BingoBoingo;I assumed all crashes were logged, but I was too niggardly to make sure. 712978;1402460411;BingoBoingo;Now I'm connected to IRC through a pile of lies. 712979;1402460416;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 712980;1402460418;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/186BRM9.txt ) 712981;1402460418;mircea_popescu;!b 2 712982;1402460435;asciilifeform;ratio of crashes to useful (exploitable) crashes is roughly like kimberlite to diamond. 712983;1402460457;BingoBoingo;Explain those minerals in Eve terms... 712984;1402460482;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/ 712985;1402460488;BingoBoingo;Also... I'm glad I never turn the Ultra 5 off 712986;1402460498;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: volcanic rock, found in za 712987;1402460600;mircea_popescu;davout: do i read this one correctly or is euronext valued somewhere around a fifth of whatsapp << if you believe the numbers, yes. 712988;1402460632;BingoBoingo;Za mean nothing now that South africa has the abreviation. Where did the great Rhodesia go??? 712989;1402460652;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust nkuttler 712990;1402460653;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask nkuttler!~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nkuttler: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nkuttler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nkuttler | Rated since: Mon Apr 8 17:12:48 2013 712991;1402460664;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: incidentally you can still get '.su' 712992;1402460690;BingoBoingo;Wake me up when I can get .nig 712993;1402460702;BingoBoingo;SHort for shuttleworth 712994;1402460719;asciilifeform;wonder who will have '.us' a decade hence 712995;1402460754;BingoBoingo;Never since Adrian IV has someone squandered prominence as much as Shuttlecock has. 712996;1402460798;mircea_popescu;!up joesmoe 712997;1402460827;mircea_popescu;to auto-voice you need to a) identify with gribble. you don't need gpg for this, tho gpg works. you can also identify with your btc address ; b) be in assbot's l2 trust. 712998;1402460832;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot joesmoe 712999;1402460832;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joesmoe: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joesmoe | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joesmoe | Rated since: Tue Mar 12 17:07:21 2013 713000;1402460843;mircea_popescu;you currently are not, which is why assbot isn't upping you. 713001;1402460919;joecool;;;gettrust assbot joecool 713002;1402460920;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joecool: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joecool | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joecool | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011 713003;1402460921;BingoBoingo;Through this mess of VM's I'll also say the portale's original Mobo is dead. Fuck you '12 BIOS update. 713004;1402460924;mircea_popescu;punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634283.0 << holy shit that 2nd post reads like yahoo answers 713005;1402460925;assbot;Where i can sell my business plans and ideas about bitcoin and its dev? 713006;1402460932;mircea_popescu;they've created their own community alright. 713007;1402460936;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu's post: fhrerprinzip, it works. preaching to choir? 713008;1402460961;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im justannoyed that people like mises and hayek, ultimate fucking socialists, are represented as some sort of anti-socialism. 713009;1402460988;mircea_popescu;fucking bullshit, collectivists arguing with each other as to the proper way to the gallows, pretending like it's a world. 713010;1402461001;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: incidentally, ~= 'единоначалие'. how do you say 'führerprinzip' in english? 'steve jobs' ? 713011;1402461039;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't think these are the same tbh. 713012;1402461055;asciilifeform;true 713013;1402461065;asciilifeform;if they were, there'd be no need to learn languages 713014;1402461073;mircea_popescu;there's this very active, latin approach to leadership that i object to. 713015;1402461080;mircea_popescu;your leader is not fucking here to tell you what to do. 713016;1402461086;asciilifeform;i like to call it 'playing civ-1' 713017;1402461092;mircea_popescu;it's exhausting. 713018;1402461110;asciilifeform;stalin was never more frustrated and ineffective than when he played civ1 713019;1402461121;mircea_popescu;lol 713020;1402461140;mircea_popescu;what, on the early years of the front? 713021;1402461154;asciilifeform;there, and occasionally at home 713022;1402461359;BingoBoingo;My favorite part of C machines is their capacity for deception. 713023;1402461385;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: cant they make it any longer << lmao 713024;1402461430;mircea_popescu;jurov: bitcoin is registered trademark nao << always has been. by... mtgox. bcause... "it;'s better someone with bitcoin's interests at heart have the tm than someone random" 713025;1402461453;mircea_popescu;now it will be bought for pennies in a court auction, and you will ALL have to be on my pissing on patents submarine, willy-nilly. 713026;1402461467;mircea_popescu;well, the dorks that made bitcoin* stuff, at any rate. 713027;1402461485;asciilifeform;cue the 'we live in submarine' song 713028;1402461632;mircea_popescu;drawingthesun: I shudder to think what people have said about ActiveMining here << lol fluffypony who's she ? 713029;1402461634;mircea_popescu;!up drawingthesun 713030;1402461637;BingoBoingo;It is truly amazing what happens when you walk a disgraced judge's steps backwards a few steps. 713031;1402461637;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 713032;1402461711;mircea_popescu;pankkake: French hair salons love word plays in their names. it's ridiculous << the lumbar yard! 713033;1402461758;BingoBoingo;I know I've played chess here a few times. In the interim have batter cess players found their way here? 713034;1402461815;BingoBoingo;moiety??? 713035;1402461829;mircea_popescu;mnope 713036;1402461833;mircea_popescu;;;seen moiety 713037;1402461833;BingoBoingo;Ah 713038;1402461834;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: ok moving time, see yous later! 713039;1402461841;mircea_popescu;wonder what happened to her 713040;1402461852;BingoBoingo;Prolly Phone blindness 713041;1402461868;asciilifeform;finally bought manul ? 713042;1402461900;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Manul won't counter my Pirc defense with an Austrian attack so boring... 713043;1402461900;asciilifeform;(phun phact. last i checked, you can legally own and keep any animal you wish in a moscow apartment.) 713044;1402461927;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Same holds in Missouri. 713045;1402461937;asciilifeform;there's a clip somewhere of a happy owner of siberian lynx in a little flat there. 713046;1402461946;asciilifeform;8th floor. 713047;1402461957;BingoBoingo;Missouri is the only US state that keeps the promise. 713048;1402461968;asciilifeform;(new meaning for tired old 'longcat is long') 713049;1402462164;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-updates-imperial-monarch-might-ship-600gh-model-now/ 713050;1402462305;decimation;mircea_popescu - your intro to the Hayek post calls to mind Mr. Moldbug's point about "chronic kinglessness" 713051;1402462349;decimation;most of the west would be unable to pass the test of being willing to happily die for the wishes of a particular man or set of men 713052;1402462375;asciilifeform;decimation: carlyle, evola, ..., ..., limonov, moldy... if one were to spit out all the folks who complained about kinglessness, freenode will boot you for flooding 713053;1402462428;decimation;yeah, when you think clearly about the nature of soveriegnty, it becomes obvious 713054;1402462503;[]bot;Bet created: "Yankees to get most all-star selections" http://bitbet.us/bet/895/ 713055;1402462540;decimation;also, modern china, singapore, dubai, etc show that "totalitarianism" (lack of collectivism?) is hardly a barrier to economic development 713056;1402462651;asciilifeform;'All cannot play the king, and a host of leaders is no wise thing. Let us have but the one leader, the one true king...' - homer's iliad, part ii 713057;1402462654;asciilifeform;etc 713058;1402462741;asciilifeform;decimation: the subject of democracy as a successful parasite on wealthy nations was beaten to death by countless people. 713059;1402462753;asciilifeform;before mr. m touched it 713060;1402462782;asciilifeform;somehow he gets credited with it by the reddit folks, sorta like tim leary getting credit for lsd 713061;1402462804;asciilifeform;(most americans seem to think that leary discovered it) 713062;1402462848;decimation;yeah that's a good point. I guess the reason I "credit" him is because he was the one who brought me out of my ignorance on the subject 713063;1402462849;*;BingoBoingo actually had a grad class that spent a few weeks on the Leary papers. 713064;1402462871;decimation;but there is no doubt that it is ancient complaint 713065;1402462949;asciilifeform;pity he couldn't stop at popularizing and had to mix in assorted crud. 713066;1402463007;asciilifeform;when we make monkey noises at moldbug, have to remember, the man perhaps should not be held responsible for his audience 713067;1402463010;mircea_popescu;decimation how;s that one go ? 713068;1402463030;asciilifeform;'you go to war with the enemy you had, not the enemy you wish you had' - or how'd that go. 713069;1402463054;decimation;the complaint about the degenerate nature of democracy (and its various aliases)? 713070;1402463066;mircea_popescu;the irony being that democracy works fine... here. 713071;1402463075;mircea_popescu;among people who comprehend the nature of freedom, so to speak. 713072;1402463086;mircea_popescu;which is notreally distinct from the nature of sovereignity. 713073;1402463098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00006623 = 0.1325 BTC [-] 713074;1402463133;BingoBoingo;There are geographic anamalies that break democracies and republics, the premier example of which is Illinois. 713075;1402463136;asciilifeform;incidentally, old russian folk phrase for a fool, 'без царя в голове' - literally, 'without a king in his head' is useful & applicable 713076;1402463154;asciilifeform;sovereignty starts 'at home' 713077;1402463158;mircea_popescu;pretty much 713078;1402463178;asciilifeform;some american or other wrote about 'femtoeconomics' - keeping order in your own brain, i think it was 713079;1402463181;asciilifeform;perhaps similar concept 713080;1402463209;decimation;my brain recalls moldbug's discussion of cis vs. trans democracy 713081;1402463284;asciilifeform;mr mold sometimes reminds me of a kid, given a chess set but with no notion of the game, treating the pieces as a curious kind of marble / blunt or pointed weapon. 713082;1402463317;decimation;yeah, he has mastered that "alien" form of thinking 713083;1402463361;BingoBoingo;WTF is cs vs. trans. SHould be dex vs. levo... 713084;1402463397;decimation;well, I don't think he's an expert chemist... 713085;1402463442;asciilifeform;obligatory: 713086;1402463443;asciilifeform;http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/whyantiint.htm 713087;1402463444;assbot;Why is there Anti-Intellectualism? 713088;1402463467;BingoBoingo;That isn't expert shit, that is learning things rotate shit. 713089;1402463481;asciilifeform;'It is useful, however, to distinguish between tinkering and creativity...' 713090;1402463504;asciilifeform;'...The tragedy of our society is not that so many people outgrow their childlike curiosity, but that so few do. The adult equivalent of childlike curiosity is channel surfing and the ten-second sound bite.' 713091;1402463597;mircea_popescu;not a bad observation. 713092;1402463607;mircea_popescu;too many kids running around, raising kids of their own 713093;1402463999;decimation;asciilifeform, that's a brilliant essay, thanks for the link. 713094;1402464021;decimation;It strikes me that curiousity is a feature of genetic expression 713095;1402464074;[]bot;Bet created: "EUR/USD rate to close on or above 1.40 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/896/ 713096;1402464192;BingoBoingo;!up Ukyo 713097;1402464362;mircea_popescu;decimation indeed it is. 713098;1402464372;mircea_popescu;that's also why it continues to exist after havingkilled numerous cats 713099;1402464391;[]bot;Bet created: "S.MG profitable in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/897/ 713100;1402464975;BingoBoingo;%ticker 713101;1402464976;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 260 Last Price: 143 24h-Vol: 4k High: 144 Low: 143 VWAP: 143 713102;1402465314;BingoBoingo;OMG 713103;1402465660;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0243847 = 0.1219 BTC [-] 713104;1402467018;mircea_popescu;"Sub-Saharan Africans never discovered Madagascar. Madagascar was settled initially by sailors from Indonesia" 713105;1402467035;mircea_popescu;perhaps some reparations are in order. 713106;1402467051;mircea_popescu;Africans never discovered nearby islands like the Cape Verde archipelago. 713107;1402467246;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00085347 = 4.6087 BTC [-] 713108;1402467782;mircea_popescu;http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/whyantiint.htm << splendid read indeed. 713109;1402467783;assbot;Why is there Anti-Intellectualism? 713110;1402467795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00085347 = 0.2134 BTC [-] 713111;1402469076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07035599 = 0.6332 BTC [-] {2} 713112;1402469137;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06988 = 0.6988 BTC [-] {5} 713113;1402469198;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0700002 = 0.28 BTC [+] 713114;1402469808;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00085609 = 0.6849 BTC [+] 713115;1402470113;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07 = 1.54 BTC [-] 713116;1402470174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00085609 = 9.5026 BTC [+] 713117;1402470667;dub;is buttpay having issues anyone is aware of? 713118;1402470681;dub;namecheap can't take my coinz 713119;1402470725;fluffypony;dub: I made a BTC payment to NameCheap yesterday 713120;1402470733;fluffypony;what's it doing? 713121;1402471028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [-] 713122;1402471082;dub;not happneing, they have acknowledged a problem 713123;1402471086;fluffypony;kk 713124;1402471288;dub;http://status.namecheap.com/?p=15985 713125;1402471289;assbot;Namecheap Status » [Updated] BitCoin Connectivity Issues 713126;1402471489;fluffypony;that's annoying 713127;1402471500;dub;indeed 713128;1402471699;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.02890909 = 0.318 BTC [+] {2} 713129;1402472103;fluffypony;rice boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2K2lCgbXw 713130;1402472103;assbot;Who needs air? (Better Quality) - YouTube 713131;1402472503;decimation;for those innocent of the subject, here's a video that gives a taste of the Chinese dominance of the electronics market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBtRJc-z05k 713132;1402472503;assbot;Electronics shops in Hua Qiang Bei, Shenzhen, China - YouTube 713133;1402472675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00085639 = 2.8261 BTC [+] 713134;1402472797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 80 @ 0.01801326 = 1.4411 BTC [-] {9} 713135;1402473041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.02439593 = 1.6589 BTC [+] {5} 713136;1402473524;davout;good morning 713137;1402473536;fluffypony;morningz 713138;1402473557;Naphex;morning 713139;1402473598;davout;;;later tell mircea_popescu liked the hayek commentary a lot! 713140;1402473599;gribble;The operation succeeded. 713141;1402474139;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0299 = 0.598 BTC [+] 713142;1402474200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.251 BTC [+] 713143;1402474261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.254 = 1.27 BTC [+] 713144;1402474322;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.255 = 1.275 BTC [+] 713145;1402474505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25888887 = 0.5178 BTC [+] 713146;1402474566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2608 = 1.304 BTC [+] {2} 713147;1402475573;pankkake;http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5265047&cid=47207157 713148;1402475574;assbot;Firefox 30 Available, Firebug 2.0 Released - Slashdot 713149;1402476030;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00085609 = 0.5565 BTC [-] 713150;1402478470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00085442 = 1.7943 BTC [-] 713151;1402480545;davout;kakobrekla: isn't that a little unclear? -> http://bitbet.us/bet/897/s-mg-profitable-in-2014/ 713152;1402480545;assbot;BitBet - S.MG profitable in 2014 :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 4 months 4 weeks | weight: 99`875 (100`000 to 1) 713153;1402480572;pankkake;"If the most optimistic predictions for am's performance come true, I will be able to cover my losses from virtually every other garbage scheme I bought into, plus some." bitcointalk, still looking at a bailout 713154;1402480578;davout;as in, it can have revenue but still be unprofitable due to expenses 713155;1402480578;pankkake;s/at/for/ 713156;1402480606;fluffypony;lol 713157;1402480849;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.0299999 = 0.51 BTC [+] 713158;1402481100;chetty;Its hard to deny just how poorly Chicagos public schools are performing when it hits you in the face. Such is the case with Paul Robeson High Schools 2014 prom theme: This is Are Story. 713159;1402481161;pankkake;:o thanks obama! 713160;1402481600;Mats_cd03;they meant to do it, i promise 713161;1402481642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 122 @ 0.01800022 = 2.196 BTC [-] {3} 713162;1402481701;chetty;pankkake, to be fair Obama hasn't been around long enough to ruin the HS kids 713163;1402481720;dub;but blame africa 713164;1402481751;pankkake;but he's from Chicago right? 713165;1402481789;chetty;well he didn't go to HS there, but if he did that might explain a lot 713166;1402481794;Mats_cd03;barely 713167;1402481807;dub;its a story about pirates 713168;1402481868;chetty;now heres one to feed the fear: http://witscience.org/analysis-of-radio-frequency-identification-rfid-chip-prevalence-in-3-discrete-united-states-populations/ 713169;1402481869;assbot;Analysis of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) Chip Prevalence in 3 Discrete United States Populations – WIT 713170;1402481886;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+] 713171;1402482130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7761 @ 0.00085426 = 6.6299 BTC [-] {2} 713172;1402482435;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0693002 = 0.1386 BTC [-] {2} 713173;1402482704;dub;I'd like to know whats on the chip 713174;1402482754;dub;one of our american brothers should dump one 713175;1402482857;chetty;shouldnt be that hard to get a filling replaced and check it out 713176;1402482879;dub;should be able to just scan it 713177;1402482884;fluffypony;http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/techreports/2014/cacr2014-10.pdf 713178;1402482885;fluffypony;that is awesome 713179;1402483086;*;dub IPO's the Personal Faraday Cage 713180;1402483232;fluffypony;lol 713181;1402483289;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzpdABiEbzY 713182;1402483289;assbot;Struttergear: Strutter Bubble - YouTube 713183;1402485241;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0698 = 0.698 BTC [+] 713184;1402485363;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.029999 = 0.21 BTC [-] 713185;1402486750;pankkake;http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/anuncios/2014-no-hay-mas-direcciones-ipv4-en-lac 713186;1402486751;assbot;Home - LACNIC 713187;1402486890;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-betting-kicks-brazil-world-cup/ 713188;1402486890;assbot;Bitcoin Betting Kicks Off for Brazil World Cup 713189;1402486903;pankkake;no bitbet either 713190;1402486999;davout;dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzpdABiEbzY <<< old but gold 713191;1402486999;assbot;Struttergear: Strutter Bubble - YouTube 713192;1402487249;kakobrekla;;;later tell mircea_popescu kakobrekla: isn't that a little unclear? -> http://bitbet.us/bet/897/s-mg-profitable-in-2014/ 713193;1402487249;assbot;BitBet - S.MG profitable in 2014 :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 4 months 4 weeks | weight: 99`823 (100`000 to 1) 713194;1402487250;gribble;The operation succeeded. 713195;1402487715;dub;davout: handome coke sniper is the best 713196;1402487734;dub;hansom* 713197;1402487739;davout;watching 713198;1402487874;davout;dub: amazing 713199;1402487874;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 713200;1402488169;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00085444 = 9.527 BTC [+] {3} 713201;1402488486;Mats_cd03;;;ticker 713202;1402488487;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.0, Best ask: 632.07, Bid-ask spread: 2.07000, Last trade: 631.89, 24 hour volume: 7078.38017203, 24 hour low: 627.12, 24 hour high: 654.13, 24 hour vwap: 649.944906232 713203;1402488494;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 713204;1402488497;gribble;Current Blocks: 305253 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1178 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 28 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12243694772.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.14359 713205;1402490950;kakobrekla;!up weenfan 713206;1402490963;kakobrekla;how stupid is this. 713207;1402491463;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.029999 = 0.36 BTC [-] 713208;1402491707;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0699 = 0.3495 BTC [+] 713209;1402491764;assbot;weenfan +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 713210;1402491783;kakobrekla;!up weenfan 713211;1402491788;kakobrekla;!up SomeoneWeird 713212;1402491852;weenfan;:) 713213;1402491857;kakobrekla;welcome! 713214;1402492420;fluffypony;kakobrekla: what's stupid? 713215;1402492447;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.029 = 0.203 BTC [-] 713216;1402492569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0244 = 0.3172 BTC [+] 713217;1402492667;kakobrekla;fluffy http://dpaste.com/2J7QFJ6.txt 713218;1402492722;fluffypony;lol 713219;1402492813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0701255 = 1.4025 BTC [+] 713220;1402492996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07039137 = 0.7039 BTC [+] 713221;1402493007;Mats_cd03;http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/06/the-argentine-bond-saga-made-simple/#more-212867 713222;1402493008;assbot;The Argentine bond saga, made simple : SCOTUSblog 713223;1402493179;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0299 = 0.598 BTC [+] 713224;1402493911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00085349 = 3.9261 BTC [-] 713225;1402494156;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0244 = 0.1952 BTC [+] 713226;1402494338;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 104 @ 0.00429979 = 0.4472 BTC [-] {2} 713227;1402494356;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there was talk a few yrs ago (russian) regarding a mesh net built on modern radio hardware in mexican mountains. supposedly destroyed (via agenture methods, no fancy tech) << built by the mexican mafia, was it. 713228;1402494490;mircea_popescu;benkay the totality of russian personnel residing on foreign soil would be the residentura. the subset doing interesting stuff out of them (such as, not the ambassador's personal homebred imported cocksucker - in most places you have to import women as they don't grow locally babes tall enough, blonde enough, fair skinned enough, lithe enough etc etc etc) would be the... agentura. 713229;1402494496;mircea_popescu;but since we're on it : agentura.ru :D 713230;1402494521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0694053 = 0.4164 BTC [-] 713231;1402494582;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00085495 = 11.5418 BTC [+] {3} 713232;1402494759;mircea_popescu;(mostly andrei soldatov, a much more interesting fellow than mossberg, imo) 713233;1402494796;mircea_popescu;and speaking of mossberg : a google on re/code does NOT pop up the wikipedia page on the top 10 results, like for absolutely any other word with a wikipedia entry. 713234;1402494813;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, it DOES pop a right panel with a summary of mossberg's wikipedia page. 713235;1402494833;mircea_popescu;someone should put the time into researching the matter, it seems clear to me by now google is entirely manual, they have no algo left at all. 713236;1402494866;mircea_popescu;basically the 400bn mkt cap company is in its entirety a hundred people trying to maintain a web directory, and we're back to the early 90s over here. 713237;1402495228;mircea_popescu;diametric: use truecrypt. hehehehe << lol ok. that was worth it :D 713238;1402495414;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: BingoBoingo has an odd penchant for eating byproducts of combusting strange << it's seriously not that healthy. 713239;1402495425;mircea_popescu;i didn't eat the pork fried on the bible/coran/etc for the record. 713240;1402495473;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: gentoo is arguably a 'bad life decision' - like the folks who insist on bicycle for commuting << im interested to hear more of the latter part, do tell ? 713241;1402495567;mircea_popescu;dub: ff crashed because ff << more specifically, because mozilla co STILL can't make a half decent garbage collector, so they constantly leak memory. yes, even version 69 or w/e they're up to by now. 713242;1402495607;mircea_popescu;this has fundamental causes in the original training of the people involved with the code, which is why you don't want to learn to computer on bullshit fashionable languages. 713243;1402495610;pankkake;their garbage collector is better each version, but they add more garbage each version 713244;1402495633;mircea_popescu;you gotta learn to computer on a language everyone despises, that'll keep you from thinking too much of fucking languages. 713245;1402495646;mircea_popescu;pankkake haha you have a way with words mr. 713246;1402495881;mircea_popescu;ok, here's another thing. asciilifeform: there are not (and probably cannot be) 'good' autorouter, but there are plenty of terrible ones. << intuitively it seems to me there should be good autoruters. why not ? 713247;1402495911;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: gentoo is a source-only distro, where you get to twiddle compiler flags, wait a week for newly-provisioned machine to compile the universe, and - most annoyingly - suffer in the innermost circle of 'dependency hell' where you have to tear up the entire world to build xxxx 713248;1402495941;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the latter part. bycicling 713249;1402495946;mircea_popescu;i know why gentoo sucks :D 713250;1402495948;asciilifeform;(on account of xxxx depending on yyy which cannot be built with old version of xxxx around, etc. - sometimes 50 packages long 'chain') 713251;1402495958;asciilifeform;aha 713252;1402495988;asciilifeform;picture the folks who ride 50km on bicycle in each direction every day 713253;1402496003;mircea_popescu;but why would it have to be 50km ? 713254;1402496008;asciilifeform;because usa 713255;1402496016;mircea_popescu;but that's because non-cycle. 713256;1402496026;mircea_popescu;in a town designed for walking everyone else does fine. 713257;1402496035;asciilifeform;obviously true 713258;1402496035;mircea_popescu;in a town designed for driving nothing ever works. 713259;1402496052;asciilifeform;also true 713260;1402496055;mircea_popescu;(yet another fundamentally wrong design decision that sits at the core of the us' failure, and can't be fixed) 713261;1402496071;asciilifeform;seems to me there should be good autoruters. why not << 'travelling salesman problem' 713262;1402496096;mircea_popescu;let's start with what autorouter does. it fills in routes you didn't make yourself ? 713263;1402496104;asciilifeform;correct 713264;1402496113;asciilifeform;some proggys even try to place components 713265;1402496118;asciilifeform;(this, afaik, never works) 713266;1402496137;mircea_popescu;ok so now... the number of possible connections is finite. 713267;1402496146;mircea_popescu;what's the problem with bruteforcing it ? 713268;1402496165;asciilifeform;finite human lifespan... 713269;1402496183;mircea_popescu;maybe that's what i'm not getting. how many routes are there on an average board ? thousands ? 713270;1402496198;*;asciilifeform peeks at autorouter window mournfully 713271;1402496207;asciilifeform;thousands. 713272;1402496236;asciilifeform;but understand, it isn't enough to merely connect things 713273;1402496249;mircea_popescu;so then what in the fuck. you take an infinite lifespan to try out 10k options on a computer ? 713274;1402496266;asciilifeform;gotta obey various rules (minimal clearances between various kinds of objects; minimized path lengths; avoid vias like the plague in high-frequency signals; etc) 713275;1402496290;asciilifeform;sometimes N or more paths have to be of the same length (to 0.1 mm or so) and you end with 'meanders' (look at the bottom side of stick of sdram) 713276;1402496305;asciilifeform;on top of this, the tracks, vias, components - occupy space 713277;1402496318;asciilifeform;a via occupies space on all N layers of a board 713278;1402496327;asciilifeform;(unless it doesn't. called 'blind' via) 713279;1402496333;asciilifeform;^ expensive 713280;1402496366;mircea_popescu;i still think this should be a solvable problem. 713281;1402496374;*;mircea_popescu is quite naive. 713282;1402496392;asciilifeform;in practice, it is solvable - in the sense that man applies 'muscle grease' and board gets routed. eventually. 713283;1402496401;asciilifeform;and the machine's contribution is substantial 713284;1402496411;asciilifeform;(no one but children, afaik, uses cad without autorouter entirely) 713285;1402496412;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Introduce religion and then bugs become "canon" << they've been trying to do that to bitcoin for a coupla years by now. 713286;1402496469;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i actually added this to the list of things to do when im old and retired. 713287;1402496475;mircea_popescu;no fucking way this doesn't have a good solution 713288;1402496538;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: MB of... .bat script << the origin of batshit. 713289;1402496632;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: things to do << fundamentally we're all making a mistake, of solving salesman problem on von neumann engine. instead, 713290;1402496633;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-02-2014#517931 713291;1402496634;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 713292;1402496666;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform my intuition is that the machine couldhave evolving bias. like you know, a virgin girl trying to fuck you. 713293;1402496670;mircea_popescu;"like this ? 713294;1402496674;mircea_popescu;"how about this ? 713295;1402496678;mircea_popescu;"is this any good ?" 713296;1402496704;asciilifeform;(variation on the famous puzzle-joke where mathematicians were given piles of sticks to sort. they puttered around with algorithms - and then janitor comes, and simply stands the sticks up on table, picking them off longest first...) 713297;1402496728;mircea_popescu;something like that 713298;1402497070;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Rabite's purpose is not correctness, security, or anything else understandable.... Rabit is soley for the lulz << lulz is quite understandable, if not machine-understandable. the trick most people claiming to be "only in for the lulz" do is copied directly from that ancient trick of the socialist, "in it only for the soviets" : they oft use it to cover their own (usually intellecual) laziness 713299;1402497101;mircea_popescu;with the infantile expectation that no one might figure it out, and should someone figure it out they'd necessarily be easy to laugh down, "because lulz" 713300;1402497121;davout;"BingoBoingo: Introduce religion and then bugs become "canon" << they've been trying to do that to bitcoin for a coupla years by now." <<< which is one of the reason specifying the protocol was deemed 'too hard' 713301;1402497129;mircea_popescu;obviously it doesn't work that way, but "obviously" doesn't work for your average screentanned neckbeard because obviously depends on social experience 713302;1402497167;mircea_popescu;davout indeed. the dirty little open secret here is that if you don't specify it openly, mp will specify it closedly and then beat you over the head every time you deviate 713303;1402497175;mircea_popescu;and you'll be painfully wrong and he'll be lulzily right each time he does it 713304;1402497184;mircea_popescu;and now you've engineered humiliatory failure for yourself. 713305;1402497201;mircea_popescu;but, like the above, not something the screentanned neckbeard can figure out on his own. (same reason) 713306;1402497222;davout;everyone's trying to be as cool as the openssl folks 713307;1402497239;mircea_popescu;and plenty are succeeding lol 713308;1402497306;davout;so, what do you think about the wording of the "s.mg profitable in 2014" bet ? 713309;1402497324;mircea_popescu;i gotthe gribble but not there in the log so dunno context yet. 713310;1402497329;mircea_popescu;what's th problem with it ? 713311;1402497350;davout;the resolution says it has to have "revenue", the title says it has to be "profitable" 713312;1402497363;davout;i'm saying it can have revenue without being profitable 713313;1402497374;mircea_popescu;ah that. well, if all else fails the bitbet backstop is that titles are informative, bets are descriptive 713314;1402497380;mircea_popescu;much like you know, newspaperarticles 713315;1402497425;davout;ok, so by this logic i just have to make a donation to s.mg to have it have "revenue", and the bet resolves to 'yes' 713316;1402497441;mircea_popescu;how would you make adonation to s.mg ? 713317;1402497482;mircea_popescu;(and if the bet was worded otherwise, this would havbe been true. if you can make a hundred billion dollar donation to berkshire you can currently win the berkshire bet too) 713318;1402497527;davout;by sending it money, assuming there's some sort of service rolled-out by end 2014, if not it can't really have revenue or be profitable, but in this case the bet title might as well be reworded to "s.mg open for business" or something like that 713319;1402497562;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Would you venture to guess at which post of my blog might pass the Mircea OpenBSD one in the next few months? << something with cats in it. or depending on whaty you mean by pass. 713320;1402497567;davout;just saying the resolution condition should be rewritten, which shouldn't be much of an issue since there are only house bets for now 713321;1402497582;mircea_popescu;i don't think that ever happened to date. 713322;1402497591;davout;said the virgin 713323;1402497593;mircea_popescu;moreover, you're saying it, but you're not backing it up. 713324;1402497632;davout;howso ? 713325;1402497661;mircea_popescu;lol. you ask me how so you've failed to make a case ? by failing to make a case lol. 713326;1402497713;mircea_popescu;howso you think you did make it, is more the question. 713327;1402497717;davout;what part of "the title isn't consistent with the bet resolution condition" do you disagree with? 713328;1402497725;mircea_popescu;the part where that matters. 713329;1402497772;mircea_popescu;consider perhaps a better example : we go into a japanese restaurant together, where we're given sticks to eat with. 713330;1402497775;mircea_popescu;these aren't equal length. 713331;1402497793;kakobrekla;how do you sort them? 713332;1402497801;mircea_popescu;when pointed out to the manager, he explains that while they mostly try to make it the same length, being two different items obviously they can never in fact be equal length, for quantum reasons 713333;1402497816;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00085315 = 2.9007 BTC [-] 713334;1402497819;mircea_popescu;and so for any case, the backstop is that the larger stick's length is defined as the pair's equal length 713335;1402497879;mike_c;what? that's ridiculous. the shorter stick should be the pair's equal length. 713336;1402497887;davout;well, i get how that can be clarified, all i'm saying is that it can't really hurt to make them consistent, especially when no one else has bet yet 713337;1402497895;mircea_popescu;obviously mike_c runs the rival FUD japanese restaurant across the street 713338;1402497907;mircea_popescu;where not only they sleep with their horses in the bed, but also all house numbers are even 713339;1402497913;mircea_popescu;like slovenly sluts. 713340;1402497927;davout;and also that the bet doesn't make that much sense if to resolve to yes s.mg only has to report an incoming money transfer > 0 713341;1402497938;kakobrekla;he likes to use that word. 713342;1402497940;mircea_popescu;davout well let's do these one at a time huh ? 713343;1402497984;mircea_popescu;it can't really hurt to make them consistent, before they're made. but the entire model (not just of bitbet, for that matter) rests on absolutes, and the proposal of improving this bet runs into the absolute that it's already published, 713344;1402497988;mircea_popescu;and so it'll go nowhere. 713345;1402498012;mircea_popescu;and as to how much sense a bet makes... who the fuck cares outside of the people betting on it. 713346;1402498019;mike_c;bibet has stooped to making clarifying comments before. this may be appropriate in this case. 713347;1402498023;mircea_popescu;imo bs shakespeare tony awards bets don't make any sense 713348;1402498033;mircea_popescu;mike_c yeah but i prefer to make it buried in here. 713349;1402498053;mircea_popescu;gotta give fluffypony's platform a living after all. 713350;1402498064;davout;granted, but following your logic, if the title doesn't matter wrt the bet resolution there's no problem changing it :-) 713351;1402498085;mircea_popescu;only because you abusively equate distinct things. 713352;1402498096;fluffypony;what did I miss 713353;1402498107;mircea_popescu;the absolute isn't a conditional absolute, ie, "the bet won't changed except for parts we can get away with" 713354;1402498113;mircea_popescu;+Be 713355;1402498140;mircea_popescu;now if only the us congress spent their morning today reading this log instead of absolutely anything they've been doing, 713356;1402498149;mircea_popescu;the us might have a chance of being properly administered for a day. 713357;1402498155;mike_c;davout: you can easily fix this by asking the question in the comments. 713358;1402498187;mircea_popescu;mike_c fud #2 for you today, suggesting the choice of venue is upon the plaintiff! WHO EVER HEARD OF THIS 713359;1402498189;davout;the way i understand what you say is that the bet title is merely a convenience, it has no value with regards to resolution, so by changing the title you're not really changing the bet itself, much like you could change the css around it or whatever 713360;1402498201;mircea_popescu;davout sure, but the way you understand things has little bearing 713361;1402498214;mircea_popescu;this isn't some sort of diplomatic negotiation where you can make oral notes on your signing of the treaty 713362;1402498227;mircea_popescu;"germany understands this peace treaty as a carte blanche to fuck all your womenz" 713363;1402498243;davout;hm 713364;1402498259;mircea_popescu;the way it was said was that in any dispute between the two, the body carries. 713365;1402498292;davout;i'm not saying there's an ambiguity in the bet resolution, it's perfectly clear if the body supersedes the title 713366;1402498331;mircea_popescu;yeah but you're trying to equivocate between "in any dispute between the two, the body carries" and "by changing the title you're not really changing the bet itself, much like you could change the css around it or whatever" 713367;1402498341;mircea_popescu;these are not the same, really. for instance, the title is indexed. 713368;1402498359;mircea_popescu;as far as bitbet is concerned, the string of english words that is the title NOW MEANS the string of english words that is the body. 713369;1402498369;mircea_popescu;much like if you made an alias. 713370;1402498390;mircea_popescu;that's the meaning of the japanese sticks story : not that you can throw out one stick 713371;1402498396;mircea_popescu;but that whatever you may think your measurement shows, 713372;1402498405;mircea_popescu;the shorter stick IS ACTUALLY as long as the longer one. 713373;1402498413;davout;yes, i got all that :-) 713374;1402498425;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00085432 = 0.6835 BTC [+] 713375;1402498425;davout;let's move on to the second part 713376;1402498427;mircea_popescu;win. 713377;1402498431;davout;wait 713378;1402498448;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many people reading the logs just got a legal & philosophical education. 713379;1402498487;mircea_popescu;what was the second part lessee 713380;1402498499;davout;the way the resolution is worded can be reduced to : "bet resolves to yes if at some point during 2014, it is possible to send money to an address owned by s.mg" 713381;1402498508;davout;because that would count as revenue 713382;1402498515;mircea_popescu;well then it also has to report it. 713383;1402498523;mircea_popescu;or perhaps it could report revenue nobody sent as btc 713384;1402498540;mircea_popescu;such as for instance i dunno, blizzard gets scared and pays us 50 bux to not run wow out of business 713385;1402498547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.070003 = 0.28 BTC [+] 713386;1402498556;davout;that would count as revenue 713387;1402498561;mircea_popescu;indeed. 713388;1402498567;davout;making the bet resolve to yes 713389;1402498571;mircea_popescu;right. 713390;1402498586;davout;even if there are 500 BTC expenses to cover leading to a loss 713391;1402498621;mircea_popescu;right. 713392;1402498642;davout;so the bet resolution could be rewritten as "yes if s.mg receives at least one satoshi in 2014" 713393;1402498678;chetty;you know it is fascinating how much this convo sounds like this 'issue':http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/06/the-argentine-bond-saga-made-simple/#more-212867 713394;1402498707;mircea_popescu;davout except satoshi is misleading, itcould receive a goat. 713395;1402498729;davout;win 713396;1402498738;davout;BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO REPORT IT TOO 713397;1402498770;chetty;If someone gives me a goat I will never tell 713398;1402498781;mircea_popescu;davout sure. 713399;1402498783;mike_c;goat embezzlement! 713400;1402498790;mircea_popescu;chetty lmao 713401;1402498801;davout;it also has implications wrt to the bet resolution time 713402;1402498820;davout;the bet can actually resolve as soon as s.mg is open for business 713403;1402498852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0699 = 1.398 BTC [-] 713404;1402498869;mircea_popescu;indeed. 713405;1402498950;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/propositions/ is too small, I can't see older rejects 713406;1402498951;assbot;BitBet Propositions 713407;1402498964;pankkake;or you should remove the pure spam 713408;1402498977;mircea_popescu;or you could check daily. 713409;1402498999;mircea_popescu;or add a rule "whenever the last bet on page is not in my list of read bets, halve the checking interval" 713410;1402499019;mike_c;isn't there an rss? 713411;1402499036;mike_c;ah, not for proposed 713412;1402499045;mircea_popescu;now that may be a good idea 713413;1402499049;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla, proposed bets rss ? 713414;1402499104;pankkake;I did check yesterday 713415;1402499128;pankkake;there was just too much bets (and spam) in a short timeframe 713416;1402499144;pankkake;well, alternatively I can submit it for the third time :D 713417;1402499157;mircea_popescu;chetty "Or, the Court might ask the Obama administration for its views on pari passu" 713418;1402499167;mircea_popescu;since when the motherfucking hells does the administration have a say in this! 713419;1402499180;mircea_popescu;jesus republic of the soviets they got going over there. go ask lenin whydontcha 713420;1402499210;mircea_popescu;pankkake prolly rss is the best solution 713421;1402499259;pankkake;why not remove the "fsdfdf" bets? they make up 80% of the page 713422;1402499264;kakobrekla;pankkake if you are looking for the reason i can look it up 713423;1402499282;pankkake;it's a bitcoin-central vs. kraken volume bet 713424;1402499390;kakobrekla;this one : This bet resolves has Yes if Bitcoin-Central has a 30d BTC/EUR trading volume higher than Kraken's, at any point before 2015, as computed by http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ 713425;1402499391;assbot;Bitcoin Charts / Markets 713426;1402499391;kakobrekla;? 713427;1402499396;pankkake;yes 713428;1402499402;kakobrekla;reason: Not going to check two pages every day to make sure; come up with a better resolution source if possible. 713429;1402499423;mircea_popescu;hm 713430;1402499443;pankkake;unfortunately there isn't, as neither exchanges publish a 30d volume 713431;1402499457;davout;kakobrekla: dun worry, i'll tell you a couple in advance which day i'll push dogecoin volume to bitcoin charts 713432;1402499467;kakobrekla;lel 713433;1402499468;davout;*couple of days 713434;1402499497;kakobrekla;btw when are you going to connect to rtbtc again 713435;1402499539;davout;prolly sthg i'll work on during the summer 713436;1402499546;mircea_popescu;pankkake this sort of bet is problematic, because what the fuck's the submitter to do. 713437;1402499567;mircea_popescu;im thinking a solution going forward would be "claim bets", ie, bets that resolve one way unless proof to the contrary is presented in the comments. 713438;1402499602;pankkake;yeah, for the CNY volume bet I actually wrote a script to watch the result 713439;1402499603;mircea_popescu;the problem with this, of course, is that it gives a monetary incentive to make comments, at which point the result will be a flood of nonsense 713440;1402499613;pankkake;then quickly archive.is the page 713441;1402499626;mircea_popescu;(ie, someone who's not won loses nothing by making a spurious claim he has. this then taxes mod time, and the more complex the claim the better for the claimant) 713442;1402499645;mircea_popescu;one of those subjects being thought about. 713443;1402499652;pankkake;though for a 30d volume bet, you should see it coming 713444;1402499665;mircea_popescu;pankkake unless one exchange is offline for a little bit. 713445;1402499697;pankkake;no but I mean you have to care only if they are reasonably close, which isn't the case at all now 713446;1402499709;mircea_popescu;not so. 713447;1402499716;mircea_popescu;suppose each does 10 btc a day on average. 713448;1402499728;mircea_popescu;suppose one day there's a panic, which takes one offline but not the other, which now dows 500 btc 713449;1402499732;mircea_popescu;have you seen it coming ? 713450;1402499744;mircea_popescu;surely if they both were online both'd have done 500 btc, keeping their parity 713451;1402499746;mircea_popescu;but they weren't. 713452;1402499768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 4 @ 0.042 = 0.168 BTC 713453;1402499799;mircea_popescu;"Particular difficulties ensue if the rules are not simple multiples of each other, and when vias must traverse between layers with different rules." 713454;1402499810;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ok im cured. this and the oxide gate problems, i can see it now. 713455;1402499854;mircea_popescu;"The earliest types of EDA routers were "manual routers" -- the drafter clicked a mouse on the endpoint of each line segment of each net. Modern PCB design software typically provides "interactive routers" -- the drafter selects a pad and clicks a few places to give the EDA tool an idea of where to go, and the EDA tool tries to place wires as close to that path as possible without violating DRC." << my naive bias thing 713456;1402499854;mircea_popescu;actually well implemented etc. 713457;1402500000;Mats_cd03;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2440866 713458;1402500001;assbot;Intraday Momentum: The First Half-Hour Return Predicts the Last Half-Hour Return by Lei Gao, Yufeng Han, Guofu Zhou :: SSRN 713459;1402500113;mircea_popescu;hm 713460;1402500316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0299 = 0.598 BTC [+] {2} 713461;1402500418;mike_c;it's amazing how many great links come through this channel without any need for up/down voting systems. 713462;1402500418;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 713463;1402500493;benkay; yeah no doubt, but those people probably could be identified and treated with various medical devices // my favorite of these is made my a local shop (designed in germany, though). it sits on your nervous system and listens to your heartbeat, supplying it's own 'carrier wave' when necessary to entrain the signal that nominally keeps things beating in time. 713464;1402500500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 3 @ 0.042 = 0.126 BTC 713465;1402500526;benkay;i almost took a job making fixtures for them before i knew how little i enjoyed shop support at big shops. 713466;1402500576;benkay;* asciilifeform doesn't own airplane, will probably have to settle for slipping in his bath with a cocked nailgun // are the 'suicides' humorously staged yet? 713467;1402500600;mircea_popescu;!down mike_c 713468;1402500604;mircea_popescu;no up/down indeed :D 713469;1402500612;mike_c;well there is that. 713470;1402500647;mircea_popescu;benkay afaik heart beats on its own localised nervous system 713471;1402500652;mircea_popescu;not going through the spine 713472;1402500667;benkay;one of the subnets. 713473;1402500673;benkay;installation was a pain 713474;1402500675;benkay;:D 713475;1402500678;mircea_popescu;lol 713476;1402500692;mircea_popescu;so this is the day of the longlog huh 713477;1402500710;benkay;for me at least. 713478;1402500757;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: Also, did anyone else here have reason to learn Ubuntu 12.04 ships without syslogd or rsyslog << is that even possible ?! 713479;1402500762;mircea_popescu;or you mean, "not turned on" 713480;1402500803;benkay;BingoBoingo: 'man logger' 713481;1402500864;mircea_popescu;they even had a special doohickey made so they could add it in the menus 713482;1402500868;mircea_popescu;a sort of gui log reader 713483;1402500955;mircea_popescu;or do you mean that ancient "rsyslogd was HUPed, type lightweight" bug they've had for ages ? did it eventually prevail upon them and so they just took logging right out of 12.04 ? :D 713484;1402500973;benkay;logging is hard 713485;1402500976;benkay;users don't care 713486;1402500984;benkay;give everyone a touchscreen 713487;1402501135;mircea_popescu;since now im looking into logs, 713488;1402501136;mircea_popescu;[UFW BLOCK] IN=eth1 OUT= SRC=208.94.26.148 DST=192.168.0.100 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=242 ID=65083 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=46252 713489;1402501155;mircea_popescu;ppls haxxing off 443 now ? 713490;1402501221;dignork;mircea_popescu: might be heartbleed probes 713491;1402501241;dignork;mircea_popescu: nop, sorry, it's SPT 713492;1402501261;Mats_cd03;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2014/05/alibaba-china-story-with-profitable.html 713493;1402501261;assbot;Musings on Markets: Alibaba: A China Story with a profitable ending? 713494;1402501300;davout;root 713495;1402501305;davout;fail 713496;1402501403;dignork;davout: might be just weird NAT router 713497;1402501415;mircea_popescu;davout hm ? 713498;1402501743;mircea_popescu;decimation: the burea-tard who signed Obama's birth certificate died in a plane crash (survived the crash but "had irregular heart beat" after 60 minutes in the water) <<< that took a while. 713499;1402501762;mircea_popescu;someone'll prolly write a blockbuster in a little 713500;1402501772;davout;nvm, wrong window 713501;1402501780;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 10 @ 0.042 = 0.42 BTC 713502;1402501823;kakobrekla;it was his username and password, root and fail. 713503;1402501833;mircea_popescu;seems reasonable. 713504;1402501857;davout;kakobrekla: hahaha, actually the password is root too 713505;1402501869;kakobrekla;:) 713506;1402501905;Mats_cd03;i take credit for good links in this channel 713507;1402501914;mircea_popescu;i once broke into a network with the root-leaf combo 713508;1402501919;kakobrekla;http://radiostudent.si/sites/default/files/slike/2014-06-10-dlakava-dlan-junijski-uritoff-28170.jpg 713509;1402501923;kakobrekla;now i take credit. 713510;1402501926;mircea_popescu;this is why you don't make wicca chicks sysadmins 713511;1402501946;Mats_cd03;ur dirty 713512;1402501961;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla that's not a good link, that's a bead link. 713513;1402501968;davout;such nsfw 713514;1402501983;kakobrekla;where dafuq do you work 713515;1402501991;mircea_popescu;yogurt factory. 713516;1402502001;benkay;!up blackwhite 713517;1402502005;kakobrekla;ah, they buy milk from us? 713518;1402502019;mircea_popescu;not from us, from usagi. 713519;1402502348;thestringpuller;can't have cookies without milk 713520;1402502358;fluffypony;lulz 713521;1402502365;mircea_popescu;!up mjr_ 713522;1402502372;mircea_popescu;!up TheNewDeal 713523;1402502378;mircea_popescu;how's diff betting coming along 713524;1402502388;TheNewDeal;it's gonna be close 713525;1402502390;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.87487208 BTC to 8`766 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 713526;1402502410;TheNewDeal;we're actually losing some time this change, making the 3rd change iffy 713527;1402502425;mircea_popescu;fun huh 713528;1402502434;TheNewDeal;meh 713529;1402502457;TheNewDeal;more interested in the opec production news of the morn 713530;1402502460;Mats_cd03;thats not good news 713531;1402502477;TheNewDeal;what is? 713532;1402502519;mircea_popescu;russia is emerging as a major ally of the muslims, and its strategy to energetically isolate the west is starting to take shape. 713533;1402502557;TheNewDeal;west has lucked out with oil prospects of late 713534;1402502564;TheNewDeal;not sure how long it will help though 713535;1402502618;Mats_cd03;diff bet and opec news 713536;1402502652;TheNewDeal;both, I know 713537;1402502657;mircea_popescu;problem is 713538;1402502666;mircea_popescu;youy never know if the west is lying or not 713539;1402502667;TheNewDeal;I was hoping for the bitcoin network and the opec producers to ramp up production :D 713540;1402502669;Mats_cd03;iraq is going to lose a fourth city to the fictional caliphate 713541;1402502674;Mats_cd03;by the end of this year 713542;1402502696;TheNewDeal;mircea_popescu true, and oil prospects are always estimates 713543;1402502702;mircea_popescu;exactly. 713544;1402502722;mircea_popescu;i can't image a us policy of easy money not including easy reserves. 713545;1402502736;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7250864#msg7250864 713546;1402502736;assbot;BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] 713547;1402502740;fluffypony;"On the other hand it was expected that usagi will get confused and "loose" the wallet. In general he's so confused that he doesn't know if he's a she or she's a he." 713548;1402502741;fluffypony;lol! 713549;1402502750;fluffypony;I love forum catch-up days 713550;1402502753;Mats_cd03;losing mosul to militants is a death blow 713551;1402502762;mircea_popescu;i love olives 713552;1402502778;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 you know, iraq 2 mayt well turn out to be the largest intl mistake the us ever made 713553;1402502781;TheNewDeal;be back 713554;1402502783;mircea_popescu;especially through being the last. 713555;1402502820;pankkake;the USAgi? 713556;1402502864;mircea_popescu;lol 713557;1402502881;fluffypony;hah hah 713558;1402502955;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/expedia-will-accept-bitcoin-hotel-bookings/ 713559;1402502956;assbot;Expedia Will Accept Bitcoin for Hotel Bookings 713560;1402502962;mircea_popescu;funny btw, the us overthrew ukraine, the russian-backed syria overthrew iraq. 713561;1402502966;mircea_popescu;so far, check. 713562;1402503000;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0711999 = 0.1424 BTC [+] 713563;1402503021;Mats_cd03;the northern alliance was the best bet iraq ever had for any semblance of security 713564;1402503079;Mats_cd03;i wonder if the kurds have the stomach to breach doors and fight house to house 713565;1402503090;Mats_cd03;probably not 713566;1402503104;mircea_popescu;stomach they have 713567;1402503107;mircea_popescu;numbers they have not. 713568;1402503123;mircea_popescu;at any rate, back on the realpolitik map, i wonder just how defensible afghanistan is w/o iraq, 713569;1402503140;mircea_popescu;and once the withdrawal is complete by autumn i wonder just how safe any us interests in the midwest will ever be again. 713570;1402503193;mircea_popescu;proll best start dealing with venezuela. 713571;1402503287;TheNewDeal;mexico and canada as well 713572;1402503319;mircea_popescu;canada is a given, 52nd state, after uk 713573;1402503328;mircea_popescu;mexico looks iffy tho 713574;1402503393;chetty;its ok Mexico is currently moving to Arizona 713575;1402503403;TheNewDeal;mexico is 3rd to canada and saudi arabia 713576;1402503423;mircea_popescu;saudi arabia is in no way on the list. 713577;1402503434;TheNewDeal;http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm 713578;1402503435;assbot;U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports 713579;1402503442;mircea_popescu;it's an ally of the us in thesense the tour guide of the fat tourist is an ally of his. 713580;1402503448;mircea_popescu;taking him to all the good fleecing spots. 713581;1402503460;mircea_popescu;i'll bet you the us won't be buying much oil from sa by the end of the decade. 713582;1402503546;TheNewDeal;regardless of saudi, mexico is ~1/4 - 1/3 of the opec total 713583;1402503586;mircea_popescu;also a doomed hope. the cartels will sooner or later make continued oil exports dependent on continued opium imports 713584;1402503592;mircea_popescu;much in the manner of england colonising china 713585;1402503610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC 713586;1402503612;mircea_popescu;it'll work, too. mexico has a better chance of ruling the us than either democrat or republican party in ten years. 713587;1402503633;TheNewDeal;there is a booming mexican population within the us 713588;1402503642;mircea_popescu;sure 713589;1402503665;mircea_popescu;colonisation usually works that way. 713590;1402503697;TheNewDeal;except when you infect the indigenous population with deadly diseases 713591;1402503736;mircea_popescu;i don't imagine biological shock is going to be much going forward 713592;1402503742;mircea_popescu;we've had flight for a centuryby now 713593;1402503756;TheNewDeal;I'm just saying it happened in mexico too 713594;1402503778;TheNewDeal;knocked out a bunch of mayans and others when the conquistadors came through 713595;1402503788;mircea_popescu;yeah. 713596;1402503845;TheNewDeal;speaking of viruses and disease 713597;1402503854;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0711999 = 0.2848 BTC [+] 713598;1402503862;TheNewDeal;I tried betting both sides to the MERS, not looking good now 713599;1402503902;mircea_popescu;"The day's developments mean Isis now has effective control over three cities, including Falluja and Ramadi in neighbouring Anbar. " 713600;1402503915;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0712 = 0.356 BTC [+] 713601;1402503918;mircea_popescu;no, the day's developments mean that isis has now secured communication lines for its pincher of baghdad 713602;1402503957;TheNewDeal;what is Isis? 713603;1402503979;mircea_popescu;the syrian expeditionary army in iraq 713604;1402504026;TheNewDeal;Islamic State Isomething Ssomething? 713605;1402504033;mircea_popescu;Iraq's embattled government said it would arm civilians and ask the parliament to declare a state of emergency. << this is a splendid point in case. the us-allied iraq government is going to... arm the civillians. 713606;1402504038;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 8 @ 0.042 = 0.336 BTC 713607;1402504039;mircea_popescu;right. 713608;1402504066;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal "of iraq in syria" 713609;1402504111;mircea_popescu;http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/6/10/1402409110353/Iraqis-fleeing-Mosul-011.jpg << People fleeing the violence queue at a checkpoint near Mosul. 713610;1402504127;mircea_popescu;This i don't fucking understand. if you're trying to leave mosul and there's some fuckwits holding a "checkpoint" in your way 713611;1402504130;Mats_cd03;mircea_popescu: arming civilians is really the only thing they can do. what, its not like the state can secure anything 713612;1402504139;mircea_popescu;the only rational, and the only moral action is to feed them their own entrails 713613;1402504159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0712 = 0.356 BTC [+] 713614;1402504160;mircea_popescu;then videotape it and post it on youtube, should any other fuckwits need training as to the importance of "holding checkpoints" 713615;1402504188;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 "arming civillians" strictly means, in this sense, "Taking these weapons the us gave us and giving it to the people they were trying to fight" 713616;1402504204;Mats_cd03;well yeah 713617;1402504205;mircea_popescu;what civillians ? "we're giving the n billions worth of material to al-quaeda. because fuck you, that's why" 713618;1402504282;benkay; the only rational, and the only moral action is to feed them their own entrails // learned helplessness of the last rats to flee? 713619;1402504295;mircea_popescu;but i mean look at tyhe picture 713620;1402504326;mircea_popescu;cars where camels go, a bunch of redditards trying to pretend like they're playing WoW irl. 713621;1402504344;benkay;isn't this the kind of desert where one can simply drive around road obstructions? 713622;1402504346;benkay;!up cipi 713623;1402504348;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many of the fuckwits still have the lease papers in the glove compartment. 713624;1402504349;benkay;;;gettrust cipi 713625;1402504350;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user cipi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=cipi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cipi | Rated since: never 713626;1402504369;benkay;what's wrong with lease papers in the glove compartment? 713627;1402504380;mircea_popescu;benkay it's the sort of desert where a car doing less than 50 is a death trap. 713628;1402504391;mircea_popescu;benkay that nobody fucking owns title to anything anymore. 713629;1402504421;mircea_popescu;german serfs cca 1100 knew as much, "the day foreign armed men walk the province, all tax obligations are null and void" 713630;1402504436;Mats_cd03;heh 713631;1402504454;thestringpuller;havelock is becoming the spam of IPOs 713632;1402504454;kakobrekla;!up CiPi 713633;1402504454;mircea_popescu;"The city fell like a plane without an engine," said a Mosul businessman << what's with these people and planes. 713634;1402504455;Mats_cd03;when there's blood on the streets... 713635;1402504465;Mats_cd03;steal a tv 713636;1402504466;mircea_popescu;you'd think they could have less humorous metaphores. 713637;1402504472;thestringpuller;it's like every fucking day I get a new email "IPO AVAILABLE!" 713638;1402504491;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller bitcoin available ? :D 713639;1402504494;benkay;!up samson_ 713640;1402504613;Apocalyptic;thestringpuller, yeah havelol spam starting to be annoying 713641;1402504646;fluffypony;I eventually just blacklisted their domain 713642;1402504647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00229947 = 0.2299 BTC [+] 713643;1402504652;fluffypony;so now I don't get any email from them 713644;1402504681;pankkake;you can unsuscribe from IPO announcements. did it months ago 713645;1402504683;mircea_popescu;but think ofall the opportunities! 713646;1402504724;Apocalyptic;opportunities!!1! 713647;1402504742;mircea_popescu;opporturdities 713648;1402504760;pankkake;opportnudetities 713649;1402504778;pankkake;no, that's on trilema 713650;1402504779;mircea_popescu;this almost sounds like an improvement 713651;1402504797;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/afc801fdf4033715a186c389bdc2b1fd/tumblr_n5ov5g3MW31r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713652;1402504812;mircea_popescu;o boy i gotcher nao. 713653;1402504813;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/06eb0d0ea9f889594956100fbfe37bdd/tumblr_n5ov4cgTN81r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713654;1402504814;pankkake;give her something to eat, poor girl 713655;1402504827;pankkake;ew 713656;1402504828;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/562a57e24c1f363fa54e8d256cf08218/tumblr_n5ov3jzavH1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713657;1402504836;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/98d97ff00e69651207f7f7265392ff0b/tumblr_n5ouxvMXqm1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713658;1402504842;Duffer1;:( 713659;1402504844;mircea_popescu;and you know what it's gonna be, and yet you can't look away 713660;1402504850;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/44c5cb790e9a599d6f3d87c6dafd4181/tumblr_n03226ov601r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713661;1402504860;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/14e277ab71c17d39726de474524f808c/tumblr_mpa2frkYet1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713662;1402504869;benkay;of ffs 713663;1402504875;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/a4795fff1483b83f61581ce15813a6f4/tumblr_mocdml62xy1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713664;1402504881;kakobrekla;spam 713665;1402504888;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72x46xj9l1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713666;1402504898;benkay;!down mircea_popescu 713667;1402504901;mircea_popescu;da fuck is that even 713668;1402504911;mircea_popescu;like chest flap 713669;1402504916;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lh931Iqg1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713670;1402504924;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m50ns6XJBW1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713671;1402504932;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1gewxiBem1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713672;1402504938;Mats_cd03;fuck 713673;1402504941;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvpif2hFC51r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713674;1402504942;Mats_cd03;why 713675;1402504951;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvpid63QVC1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713676;1402504959;mircea_popescu;i sold out to the usg! 713677;1402504964;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltqmu7JZ1a1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713678;1402504965;benkay;stahp 713679;1402504968;*;kakobrekla sets mode +m #bitcoin-assets 713680;1402504972;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt2nmzazVH1r4g61uo1_400.jpg 713681;1402504981;mircea_popescu;that should be enough for a day huh ? 713682;1402504986;mircea_popescu;com back tomorrow, same time !!1 713683;1402505001;pankkake;didn't look at the last ones. usually I don't resist, but too much at a time 713684;1402505017;mircea_popescu;well the'll be in the log 713685;1402505019;mircea_popescu;waiting for you 713686;1402505029;mircea_popescu;being ugly and waiting. waiting and being ulgy. 713687;1402505077;benkay;makes one miss ozbot. 713688;1402505169;mircea_popescu;decimation: why would they be able to accomplish anything "evil" well? << a solid argument, except, why does a cat manage to break things so well when no cat has yet produced any thing ? 713689;1402505260;jurov;if everyone suspects the deaths being staged, then ofc they were not well accomplished 713690;1402505269;pankkake;I wish I knew how ozbot found the images 713691;1402505329;mircea_popescu;pankkake just went through some selected tumblrs 713692;1402505447;pankkake;https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/09391f1561178e3112f44516be6dbe4b/tumblr_n6pbmpw0PE1s9dnijo1_1280.jpg on the homepage, what a horrible pic 713693;1402505546;mircea_popescu;whats with all the black people ? 713694;1402505550;mircea_popescu;is obama racist or something ? 713695;1402505606;pankkake;my first thought was "this looks like a typical stock photo where minorities must be present otherwise you're racist. oh wait, who's this guy, i think i know him" 713696;1402505634;TheNewDeal;while I was going there, my school got caught photoshopping a black person into a photo 713697;1402505652;TheNewDeal;the black guy came out publicly stating he was not in the photo originally 713698;1402505695;pankkake;wow, so it was a photo of know people in the school? and they thought they could get away with it? 713699;1402505716;pankkake;anyway, the classic: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/26/microsofts-ad-in-poland-p_n_269366.html 713700;1402505716;assbot;Microsoft's Ad In Poland Photoshops Black Man, But Keeps Asian Man, White Woman 713701;1402505735;TheNewDeal;actually, looks like it was before my time. http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/uwmadison.asp 713702;1402505828;TheNewDeal;pankkake niiice 713703;1402506181;pankkake;https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/3c67ec86122253f5d2eb70757b91d789/tumblr_n5ix72EeKc1rrq7ino1_1280.jpg 713704;1402506568;mircea_popescu;davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu liked the hayek commentary a lot! << thanks! 713705;1402506647;mircea_popescu;dub: but blame africa << everyone knows africans aren't pirates, they couldn't even discover madagascar. 713706;1402506659;mircea_popescu;it's the muslims that are the pirates. 713707;1402507001;mircea_popescu;http://imgur.com/v3TgQCo 713708;1402507002;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 713709;1402507006;TheNewDeal;updating the diff change estimate to 6.8% 713710;1402507022;mircea_popescu;why tyhe fuck do they continue to push all the derpage and try and pretend is entirely beyond me 713711;1402507041;mircea_popescu;roughly in the situation of a small african country trying to push this alt-geography where china doesn't exist 713712;1402507091;TheNewDeal;whats the sham betsite? 713713;1402507093;mircea_popescu;!up mgio 713714;1402507099;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot mgio 713715;1402507100;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mgio: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mgio | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mgio | Rated since: never 713716;1402507112;mircea_popescu;you will need ti get in assbot's l2 to voice yourself. 713717;1402507119;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal i dunno, a bevy of pretenders 713718;1402507125;mircea_popescu;they change about quarterly 713719;1402507152;mircea_popescu;the pretense remains unchanged. "there's mpex, we don't talk about. the exchange we talk about is glbsebtctbitcoin whateveretc" 713720;1402507162;TheNewDeal;they the results of the proposition spam? 713721;1402507167;mircea_popescu;"there's bitbet, we don;'t talk about. the betting sites we talk about is etc" 713722;1402507173;mircea_popescu;i have no idea 713723;1402507186;mircea_popescu;!up joesmoe 713724;1402507191;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot joesmoe 713725;1402507192;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joesmoe: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joesmoe | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joesmoe | Rated since: Tue Mar 12 17:07:21 2013 713726;1402507195;joesmoe;i can't seem to get assbot to like me, its being a real ass 713727;1402507204;mircea_popescu;same goes to you that i said to mgio : unless you're in assbot l2's trust you can't up yourself. 713728;1402507212;joesmoe;ahhh 713729;1402507216;joesmoe;i'm suprised i'm not 713730;1402507225;joesmoe;i've done a few transactions on otc a while back 713731;1402507227;mircea_popescu;well, look at l1, talk to the people there. 713732;1402507259;mgio;i see 713733;1402507267;mgio;has anyone seen ukyo around recently? 713734;1402507277;mgio;thanks for the help 713735;1402507279;mircea_popescu;;;seen Ukyo 713736;1402507279;gribble;Ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 25 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: mgio_: ping 713737;1402507392;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 34 @ 0.042 = 1.428 BTC 713738;1402507471;mgio;not a good sign, oh well 713739;1402507483;Apocalyptic;he's here right now 713740;1402507487;joesmoe;lol 713741;1402507538;TheNewDeal;weird 713742;1402507626;mircea_popescu;mgio what's your interest anyway, if it's not secret ? 713743;1402507697;joesmoe;mgio is NSA, tracking Ukyo down 713744;1402507712;mgio;ukyo.loan, he owes me a lot of money and it supposedily working on some projects to pay it back. wondering what the status is 713745;1402507744;mgio;I'm probably more patient than I should be 713746;1402507762;mircea_popescu;well what recourse other than patience do you have anyway. 713747;1402507764;mike_c;what's the other option? 713748;1402507770;mircea_popescu;beat you. 713749;1402507772;benkay;NONE THIS IS BITCOIN 713750;1402507805;benkay;the whole 'can you assbot' thing as test of technical ability is a neat filter to boot. 713751;1402507818;mgio;legal options, of course 713752;1402507833;mike_c;mircea_popescu: what do you think is the best judge of money supply? m2? m4? 713753;1402507835;benkay;ninjashogun's been harping at me again. anyone else catching his flak? 713754;1402507847;mike_c;yes 713755;1402507862;mike_c;wait for the part where he asks you how many bitcoin you have. 713756;1402507862;mgio;he lives in the US, as do I, and the terms of the loan are pretty straightforward 713757;1402507870;mircea_popescu; legal options, of course << that didn't mwean anything. 713758;1402507882;mgio;only way to get out of it if he was to declare personal bankrupcy 713759;1402507889;mgio;in other words, sue him for the btc owed 713760;1402507902;mircea_popescu;mike_c what are you judging it for ? 713761;1402507922;benkay;!up AncientAliensBTC 713762;1402507922;mircea_popescu;!up AncientAliensBTC 713763;1402507924;benkay;oh this will be good 713764;1402507937;mircea_popescu;!sideways benkay 713765;1402507948;benkay;my btc come from aliens 713766;1402507952;TheNewDeal;ooooh goat's milk - so milky 713767;1402507958;benkay;i have an alien miner 713768;1402507961;benkay;in a pyramid 713769;1402507961;Apocalyptic; oh this will be good << 713770;1402507979;AncientAliensBTC;SN was clearly Aliens the tech is too good. 713771;1402507985;TheNewDeal;surpised I haven't heard speculation that satoshi was an alien. 713772;1402508001;benkay;yeah totally 713773;1402508006;benkay;satoshi nakamoto is ancient aliens 713774;1402508013;chetty;time traveler 713775;1402508014;benkay;its the only sensible option 713776;1402508025;benkay;nono der paradoxen 713777;1402508030;benkay;aliens makes sense tho 713778;1402508039;mike_c;mircea_popescu: hard to describe. i am trying to think about how many dollars there are, which is obviously a complicated topic. 713779;1402508043;Apocalyptic;AncientAliensBTC, hope you are Giorgio 713780;1402508067;benkay; SN was clearly Aliens the tech is too good. // actually the thing is that the tech is so bad that only an agent entirely unfamiliar with cultural standards could have done it 713781;1402508090;mircea_popescu;mike_c ok, but dollars in what sense ? 713782;1402508109;mircea_popescu;it's always the case you can narrow and pin things down in a macro discussion, tho it's almost always the case people are reluctant to do so 713783;1402508118;mircea_popescu;functionally, deductively, somehow there's a way 713784;1402508124;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00085432 = 3.5027 BTC [+] 713785;1402508185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8180 @ 0.00085661 = 7.0071 BTC [+] {2} 713786;1402508212;AncientAliensBTC;More seriously though, anyone want to discuss the betting of both sides on BitBet? I'm curious about discussing the theory behind the results of the data dump. 713787;1402508223;mircea_popescu;you seen mike_c article ? 713788;1402508274;AncientAliensBTC;Nope 713789;1402508292;TheNewDeal;Someone found the truth Re:I am ... by cshark @slashdot http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4562153&cid=45709487 713790;1402508293;assbot;Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Could Actually Be Group From Europe - Slashdot 713791;1402508305;mircea_popescu;;;google btcalpha betting bitbet 713792;1402508306;gribble;Betting BitBet Both Ways - Btc Alpha: ; Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.: ; When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha: 713793;1402508318;mircea_popescu;it's a good site generally. 713794;1402508379;AncientAliensBTC;poured through trilema and btc alpha already :) 713795;1402508383;mike_c;mircea_popescu: well, i am trying to internalize money supply. like it seems m2 floats around 4x m1. the fed says m3 is meaningless, but others say it isn't. and i don't entirely understand m4 yet. 713796;1402508411;mike_c;i thought you might have some insight to measures worth understanding vs. ones that are just noise. 713797;1402508415;Apocalyptic;"the fed says m3 is meaningless" // is anything the fed says meaningfull ? 713798;1402508417;mircea_popescu;the fed is engaged in a doomed fight to maintain the financial relevancy of a dead industrial base. 713799;1402508430;mircea_popescu;m3 is only relevant if you wish to pierce through that veil 713800;1402508472;mike_c;anyone have any good book recommendations on the topic? 713801;1402508480;Apocalyptic;mike_c, do you distinguish between money supply and monetary base ? 713802;1402508519;mike_c;Apocalyptic: i am trying to :) 713803;1402508572;mircea_popescu;hm 713804;1402508591;mircea_popescu;all the goodstuff i read on the paper were romanian cb white papers in the 80s and 90s 713805;1402508596;mircea_popescu;on thetopic* 713806;1402508596;mike_c;AncientAliensBTC: i see betting both sides of a bitbet as a bet on action. if the bet receives a lot of action, you should do well. 713807;1402508718;mircea_popescu;!up dexX7 713808;1402508722;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot dexX7 713809;1402508723;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask dexX7!~dexX7@unaffiliated/dexx7. Trust relationship from user assbot to user dexX7: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=dexX7 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dexX7 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 20:01:25 2013 713810;1402508737;dexX7;thanks 713811;1402508742;dexX7;i think i can up myself 713812;1402508827;mircea_popescu;aha yeah you can. 713813;1402508842;mircea_popescu;whoever made the mp being wrong bitbet : i was all for it but the mods shot it down. 713814;1402508847;mircea_popescu;bitbet mods suck 713815;1402508874;pankkake;agreed 713816;1402508892;AncientAliensBTC;How does betting later affect my odds? Say I bet 1 BTC (as the site shows) with a 3.5 BTC payout. How much will I cash in on my early betting vs lose out to my position becoming more popular/dilute other side? 713817;1402508917;pankkake;and it's not mp being wrong, it's mp admits being wrong 713818;1402509106;kakobrekla;AncientAliensBTC someone made an app to simulate that i think 713819;1402509199;TheNewDeal;it's easy enough to calculate 713820;1402509219;TheNewDeal;ancientaliensbtc is it ok to assume no more bets will be made on the opposing side (more conservative) ? 713821;1402509221;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: what was the bet? 713822;1402509271;pankkake;fluffypony: http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 713823;1402509271;assbot;BitBet Propositions 713824;1402509286;TheNewDeal;top one MP to admit being wrong in #b-a 713825;1402509316;mircea_popescu; and it's not mp being wrong, it's mp admits being wrong << no its not. i always admit it when i'm wrong, it's just im not wrong that often 713826;1402509333;fluffypony;heh 713827;1402509836;TheNewDeal;would be interested to see what % of bitbet is made into private bets 713828;1402509852;TheNewDeal;or are they quite rare? 713829;1402509890;mircea_popescu;well they're private. 713830;1402509911;kakobrekla;actually they are public. 713831;1402509921;TheNewDeal;how so? 713832;1402509931;TheNewDeal;you can see it, but need a password to bet? 713833;1402509932;mircea_popescu;quantum 713834;1402509935;kakobrekla;cause transparency. 713835;1402509949;mike_c;have their been any? 713836;1402509952;TheNewDeal;not concerned as much with the why 713837;1402509953;mircea_popescu;banany 713838;1402509954;kakobrekla;correct TheNewDeal 713839;1402509956;mike_c;*there 713840;1402509959;mircea_popescu;are 713841;1402509964;assbot;Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3HF6ZMY.txt ) 713842;1402509964;mircea_popescu;!b 12 713843;1402509975;mircea_popescu;bah 713844;1402509987;kakobrekla;mike_c yes, refused. 713845;1402510051;TheNewDeal;could I bet both sides at the beginning as well? 713846;1402510070;kakobrekla;no 713847;1402510088;TheNewDeal;what! 713848;1402510100;kakobrekla;im trying to save on the btc addresses! 713849;1402510105;kakobrekla;you know they are finite, right. 713850;1402510110;TheNewDeal;yes 713851;1402510122;mircea_popescu;no they're not 713852;1402510136;TheNewDeal;can't you reuse? 713853;1402510226;kakobrekla;depends 713854;1402510262;benkay;http://www.bluecoat.com/company-blog/2013-05-09/what%E2%80%99s-your-ssl-traffic-trying-hide // waaaaaaaaaaaaat is this 713855;1402510263;assbot;Blue Coat – Whats Your SSL Traffic Trying to Hide? 713856;1402510273;TheNewDeal;I have accidentally been requesting new addresses when betting the same side at a later time. Didn't realize you could just resend to same 713857;1402510296;kakobrekla;you can have it either way 713858;1402510387;TheNewDeal;but back to this private bet. You're saying I couldnt bet both sides at the beginning, then hand out the password to close group of people? 713859;1402510445;kakobrekla;you can take one side, wait for approval, bet the other side and then hand out the pass 713860;1402510508;TheNewDeal;ahhh 713861;1402510512;TheNewDeal;same difference 713862;1402510646;mircea_popescu;yup 713863;1402510649;mircea_popescu;!up alex_c 713864;1402510691;mircea_popescu;anyone interested in my salmon teriyaki recipe ? 713865;1402510708;TheNewDeal;perhaps. cooked in oven? 713866;1402510773;TheNewDeal;I'm not confident enough with my fish via grill skills 713867;1402510780;mircea_popescu;nah silverstone half-wok 713868;1402510817;TheNewDeal;sure 713869;1402510876;dignork;benkay: http://www.bluecoat.com/company-blog/2013-05-09/what%E2%80%99s-your-ssl-traffic-trying-hide // i've seen similar hardware deployed by companies to monitor their employees traffic. Single point of failure. Awesome point to hack. 713870;1402510877;assbot;Blue Coat – Whats Your SSL Traffic Trying to Hide? 713871;1402510891;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ 713872;1402510966;Mats_cd03;fucking ssl 713873;1402511035;mircea_popescu;"Now you can have visibility into all the encrypted SSL traffic on your networkat extremely high performanceso you can inspect it, identify potentially nefarious activities, and feed the intelligence to an ecosystem of security application vendorsall through Blue Coat." 713874;1402511038;mircea_popescu;herp. 713875;1402511077;benkay;snake oil? 713876;1402511081;asciilifeform;ninjaspamz0r is back!? lol 713877;1402511103;dignork;mircea_popescu: well, they are actually lying, for this to work, they either have to ssl-strip, or plant corporate CA in all their system 713878;1402511112;mircea_popescu;the latter. 713879;1402511128;mircea_popescu;which increases the vulnerability of their "security" tremendously 713880;1402511164;pankkake;corporate CA is the usual trick 713881;1402511174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5248 @ 0.00085751 = 4.5002 BTC [+] {2} 713882;1402511176;pankkake;can you even restrict CAs to tlds? 713883;1402511222;chetty; anyone interested in my salmon teriyaki recipe ?// do tell 713884;1402511236;mircea_popescu;aite i'll photo document soonish 713885;1402511296;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 14 @ 0.0299 = 0.4186 BTC [+] 713886;1402511660;fluffypony;;;later tell BingoBoingo if you haven't seen it, this is by far the best flopping attempt in recent history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmnhusvWTc 713887;1402511661;assbot;Amateur football at its best - YouTube 713888;1402511661;gribble;The operation succeeded. 713889;1402511784;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 3 @ 0.042 = 0.126 BTC 713890;1402511854;fluffypony;something I said? 713891;1402511858;fluffypony;:-P 713892;1402511967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 341 @ 0.00038033 = 0.1297 BTC [-] {3} 713893;1402512272;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.03 = 0.39 BTC [+] {3} 713894;1402512426;jurov;!t m f.mpif 713895;1402512426;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021703 / 0.00021721 / 0.00021725 (5601 shares, 1.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) 713896;1402512587;davout;pankkake: "can you even restrict CAs to tlds?" <<< wat? 713897;1402512687;pankkake;you could add a CA and have it validate only .mycompany 713898;1402512744;TheNewDeal;when did mpif start? was it april? 713899;1402512813;TheNewDeal;looks may 713900;1402512846;mike_c;started trading in may. it started operating a bit before that. 713901;1402513074;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: 12.04 did indeed ship without rsyslog or syslogd, it can produce dmesg but the terminal is of course too short to display the whole thing. 713902;1402513089;mircea_popescu;o.o 713903;1402513100;mircea_popescu;so go back to 10.04 713904;1402513114;pankkake;shift+pageup? 713905;1402513148;pankkake;no logger? or does upstart have one, like systemd? 713906;1402513180;mircea_popescu;does it keep a journal for the hdd or dispensed with that too ? 713907;1402513203;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: dmesg | less 713908;1402513221;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-wins-best-virtual-currency-startup-award-europas/ 713909;1402513222;assbot;Bitstamp Wins Best Virtual Currency Startup Award at The Europas 713910;1402513232;BingoBoingo;I really lacks all of the useful system tools. I'm afraid it might tell me I need to install cat if I try to use it now 713911;1402513242;mike_c;imagine if they had three cans 713912;1402513284;mircea_popescu;what's eruopas ? 713913;1402513474;kakobrekla;jupiters moon? 713914;1402513569;mircea_popescu;i guess. 713915;1402514346;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23211011 BTC [-] 713916;1402514407;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23211016 = 0.6963 BTC [+] {2} 713917;1402514934;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I'm telling you with the diff bets you have to consider the externalities. 713918;1402514998;TheNewDeal;yes the network is quite variable over short term 713919;1402515039;davout;pankkake: ic 713920;1402515088;davout;mircea_popescu: lol 713921;1402515212;TheNewDeal;bingoboing I'm also looking at the short term history for comparison 713922;1402515307;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I'm telling you that Datacenters in the summer aren't pretty. Mix that up with Knc's generally sloppy build quality... 713923;1402515336;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/storm-damage-greatly-improves-name-of-tennessee-car-was-1589411382/+Tom_Ley 713924;1402515336;assbot;Storm Damage Greatly Improves Name Of Tennessee Car Wash 713925;1402515343;TheNewDeal;April 29 - May 12 the difficulty increased 10.66 %. Blocks came through on average 542 seconds. To get 3 changes, we need to find blocks at an average of 554 seconds 713926;1402515393;kakobrekla;TheNewDeal you can always ddos some pools 713927;1402515432;TheNewDeal;I wouldn't dare attempt something along those lines 713928;1402515438;TheNewDeal;plus I'm hoping for yes 713929;1402515533;kakobrekla; imagine if they had three cans < imagine if they could do maff 713930;1402515559;TheNewDeal;we're nethashing at 89.9 PH, once we pass 91.1 we should be finding faster than 554 s/ block 713931;1402515652;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: that is a great name, I much prefer it over the original 713932;1402515688;BingoBoingo;It's always a good time at the Asstime Car wash 713933;1402515726;jurov;ass time is good time 713934;1402515845;mike_c;srsly BingoBoingo. those gawker sites are going to rot your brain. 713935;1402515871;BingoBoingo;mike_c: That's what the Vodka's for. It's a preservative. 713936;1402515904;jurov;BingoBoingo I gather you want to taxidermize yourself alive? 713937;1402515930;BingoBoingo;Slowly, hopefully it will take another century. 713938;1402516013;jurov;http://stuffo.ddmcdn.com/stuffyoushouldknow/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2013/11/roguetaxidermy6.jpg it will end up like this 713939;1402516026;mike_c;kakobrekla: sometimes shit gets accidentally converted to floats :) maff is hard. 713940;1402516040;kakobrekla;:) 713941;1402516095;fluffypony;jurov: what's the problem with that? 713942;1402516095;fluffypony;I expect to be like a well-matured red wine by the time I die 713943;1402516095;fluffypony;rich and full of body 713944;1402516121;jurov;http://stuffo.ddmcdn.com/stuffyoushouldknow/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2013/11/roguetaxidermy23.jpg imma use this for coinbr maintenance page 713945;1402516179;jurov;or rather 500 errors 713946;1402516218;jurov;!up belcher 713947;1402516237;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00085874 = 2.9627 BTC [+] 713948;1402516285;BingoBoingo;The monkeyfish would make a great error message. 713949;1402516664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00085836 = 5.751 BTC [-] {2} 713950;1402516756;jurov;http://forum.truecrypt.ch/t/poll-what-name-would-be-best/29 vote for the last :D 713951;1402516756;assbot;Poll: What name would be best? - TCnext 713952;1402516786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.01856559 = 0.13 BTC [-] 713953;1402516798;jurov;they forgot cyphermaid/cryptmaid 713954;1402517117;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1z5hnyKfBg 713955;1402517117;assbot;This Girl Didn't Make Her Point So Well - YouTube 713956;1402517118;fluffypony;lol 713957;1402517701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.06843266 = 17.1082 BTC [-] {19} 713958;1402517945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2050 @ 0.00006881 = 0.1411 BTC [+] {2} 713959;1402518006;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2952 @ 0.00005895 = 0.174 BTC [-] {8} 713960;1402518067;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11310 @ 0.00085506 = 9.6707 BTC [-] {2} 713961;1402518555;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5664 @ 0.00085432 = 4.8389 BTC [-] 713962;1402518616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 669 @ 0.00036106 = 0.2415 BTC [-] {3} 713963;1402518631;Mats_cd03;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/iraqi-city-tikrit-falls-isil-fighters-2014611135333576799.html 713964;1402518632;assbot;Iraq city of Tikrit falls to ISIL fighters - Middle East - Al Jazeera English 713965;1402518818;Mats_cd03;opec should reconsider this morning's news 713966;1402518881;mike_c;bitbet: ISIL takes baghdad 713967;1402519319;BingoBoingo;Oh, a .net .split 713968;1402519592;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029 = 0.116 BTC [-] 713969;1402519825;BingoBoingo;http://www.coindesk.com/expresscoin-launches-become-coinbase-unbanked/ 713970;1402519825;assbot;Expresscoin Launches to Become Coinbase for the Unbanked - CoinDesk 713971;1402519901;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: coinbase for the unbanked << when do we get mazerati for the unmazeratied? 713972;1402519902;TheNewDeal;oooh dogecoin as well 713973;1402519931;TheNewDeal;I think the more avenues where btc/doge can be traded, the lower doge/btc will become 713974;1402519950;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Probably next week. I'll just need some fiberglass to duct tape to this lawnmower. 713975;1402519973;TheNewDeal;actually thats backwards 713976;1402519999;TheNewDeal;it will cost more doge to get one btc the more exchanges trade 713977;1402520062;benkay;mircea_popescu: i was under the impression the reds died out under a disease barrage from the early western explorers, far before the smallpox blankets. 713978;1402520137;BingoBoingo;http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-11/with-the-machine-hp-may-have-invented-a-new-kind-of-computer#r=hp-lst 713979;1402520137;assbot;With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer - Businessweek 713980;1402520191;jborkl; It was a DDOS attack it went up to 750k kpbs for a few hours this morning then stopped 713981;1402520271;jborkl;not really sure why though, not like it would make any difference? 713982;1402520437;Mats_cd03;some trivia: a lord jeffrey is responsible for the biological warfare against the reds, and today he has a bustling college town as his namesake 713983;1402520463;benkay;top shelf old mate 713984;1402520480;jborkl;;;tldr mircea_popescu I have a idea for the cherry truck, remind me next time 713985;1402520481;gribble;Error: "tldr" is not a valid command. 713986;1402520492;jborkl;damnit what is it again? 713987;1402520532;mike_c;later tell ? 713988;1402520544;Mats_cd03;wot wot 713989;1402520760;jborkl;;;later tell mircea_popescu I have a idea for the cherry truck, remind me next time 713990;1402520760;gribble;The operation succeeded. 713991;1402520773;jborkl;thank you mike_c 713992;1402521144;fluffypony;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/11/microsoft_poised_to_take_web_server_crown_from_apache/ 713993;1402521145;assbot;Microsoft poised to take Web server crown from Apache The Register 713994;1402521635;mircea_popescu;benkay so ? 713995;1402521724;BingoBoingo;%book 713996;1402521727;atcbot;20k@265 20k@264 16k@260 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 713997;1402521745;benkay;"Black population in Africa will become extinct under pressure from (legitimate) Chinese economic interest much in the way Red population in North America became extinct under pressure from (legitimate) European economic interest." 713998;1402521770;benkay;sounds like less of an economic pressure and more of an environmental pressure. new predators in the environment. 713999;1402521799;benkay;mircea_popescu: 714000;1402521858;mircea_popescu;it wasn't linguistic pressure 714001;1402521861;mircea_popescu;so it was economical 714002;1402521867;mircea_popescu;there's not a third. 714003;1402522125;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014: booking points over 3110" http://bitbet.us/bet/899/ 714004;1402522176;benkay;gotcha. 714005;1402522185;benkay;politics or economics. 714006;1402522201;benkay;why economics over thermodynamics? 714007;1402522212;mircea_popescu;but i mean what's the difference 714008;1402522236;jborkl;I rarely go to the forums anymore, but I guess all the actm peeps finally figured out it was a scam? 714009;1402522238;benkay;i guess its just politics :D 714010;1402522277;mircea_popescu;jborkl nah. 714011;1402522288;mircea_popescu;!up Radi777 714012;1402522324;mike_c;!t h am1 714013;1402522325;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.23211010 / 0.24845358 / 0.26100000 (47 shares, 11.67731831 BTC), 7D: 0.19301000 / 0.26587505 / 0.32900000 (1160 shares, 308.41505284 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.29371218 / 0.50990000 (4694 shares, 1378.68495324 BTC) 714014;1402522335;Radi777;hey guys :) 714015;1402522338;mircea_popescu;ello 714016;1402522362;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 714017;1402522364;gribble;Current Blocks: 305315 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1116 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 18 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12282280955.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.4718 714018;1402522497;jborkl;I tried reading the actm thread and gave up, 714019;1402522606;Mats_cd03;brain hemorrhaging? 714020;1402522642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 47 @ 0.0245 = 1.1515 BTC [-] 714021;1402523465;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014: total red cards 18 or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/900/ 714022;1402523785;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins" http://bitbet.us/bet/901/ 714023;1402524012;fluffypony;http://motherboard.vice.com/read/warren-buffetts-30-billion-wager-on-clean-energy-is-one-of-his-safest-bets-yet 714024;1402524013;assbot;Warren Buffett's $30 Billion Wager on Clean Energy Is One of His Safest Bets Yet | Motherboard 714025;1402524020;fluffypony;someone should just tell him about BitBet 714026;1402524143;jurov;is either side of that bitbet safe? 714027;1402524247;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014: penalty kick success rate over 60%" http://bitbet.us/bet/902/ 714028;1402524289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 94 @ 0.02392752 = 2.2492 BTC [-] {16} 714029;1402524351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.06999993 = 1.12 BTC [+] {2} 714030;1402524472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.03045714 = 1.066 BTC [+] {2} 714031;1402524483;[]bot;Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014: total USA goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/903/ 714032;1402524624;mircea_popescu; Warren Buffett's $30 Billion Wager on Clean Energy Is One of His Safest Bets Yet | Motherboard << it's very safe. 714033;1402524632;[]bot;Bet created: "Blue Jays Flying High At All-Star Break" http://bitbet.us/bet/904/ 714034;1402524632;mircea_popescu;we all know it's gonna lose, not much dispute. 714035;1402524693;jurov;how so? 714036;1402524755;jurov;expecting oil price to keep climbing in comparison to renewables is pretty safe assumption 714037;1402524762;[]bot;Bet created: "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ 714038;1402524888;[]bot;Bet created: "Neymar Wins Golden Ball" http://bitbet.us/bet/906/ 714039;1402525204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.01859916 = 0.1302 BTC [+] {2} 714040;1402525432;mircea_popescu;the only reason "renewables" seem economical atm is because govt picks up 80% of the tab. 714041;1402525441;mircea_popescu;govt won't be able to keep picking up any of the tab in the future, 714042;1402525445;mircea_popescu;but won't allow you to divest either. 714043;1402525448;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00085853 = 2.6614 BTC [+] {2} 714044;1402525461;mircea_popescu;from a business perspective, renewables = suicide. 714045;1402525591;jurov;fossils are heavily subsidised, either 714046;1402525631;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+] 714047;1402525657;mike_c;BingoBoingo, you still want to sell some no? 714048;1402525741;jurov;plus, if musk succeeds to get prices of batteries down 714049;1402525758;mircea_popescu;fossils are not subsidised, fossils are taxed 714050;1402525759;jurov;.... but dunno i know, maybe it's all just a bubble 714051;1402525760;mircea_popescu;about the same 80% 714052;1402525776;mircea_popescu;so currently, the situation is that in the marketplace, a kilo of beef costs 11 and a kilo of pork costs 13 714053;1402525795;mircea_popescu;except, the beef costs 48 to produce, and every kilo sold is a 37 loss to the government 714054;1402525810;mircea_popescu;whereas pork costs 3 to produce, and every kilo sold is a 10 gain to the government. 714055;1402525826;mircea_popescu;the idea that stuff costing 50 will be able to compete with stuff costing 3 once the govt is out of the picture is nutty 714056;1402525848;jurov;now the earth gas supplied to europe is which one? 714057;1402525860;mircea_popescu;you mean methane ? ch4? 714058;1402525871;jurov;here only household gas is subsidised 714059;1402525882;mircea_popescu;if you mean natural gas, it's pork. 714060;1402525886;jurov;industrial usage is not 714061;1402525921;jurov;how it is a gain to the govt? slovak one, not russian 714062;1402525936;mircea_popescu;nobody cares about slovak one :) 714063;1402525954;mircea_popescu;the us (and eu) are being crushed atm because they're paying the 37, whereas russia, saudi arabia etc are pocketing the 10 714064;1402526035;jurov;and solar/wind is expensive to install, not to produce 714065;1402526081;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I'd be amenable to selling up to half my bitcoin's stake in that bet. 714066;1402526083;jurov;the expectation is for the 48 to get down, and for 3 to get up 714067;1402526118;mike_c;BingoBoingo: this is b39, right? 714068;1402526134;jurov;i really don't know if it's realistic, but i don't think buffett haven't done any math around it 714069;1402526137;mircea_popescu;jurov install and maintain. 714070;1402526157;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Indeed it is. 714071;1402526168;mircea_popescu;jurov i think he's done plenty of math. it goes like this : "im too old to get it up anymore. will be dead soon anyway. who the fuck cares." 714072;1402526175;mike_c;and you are offering it at cost, yes? half for 0.5? 714073;1402526235;BingoBoingo;mike_c: I'm amenable to offering it at a discount, i.e. selling the 0.5 stake for less than 0.5 BTC. 714074;1402526247;jurov;afaik maintenance is the part that is currently heavily subsidized for fossils 714075;1402526253;mircea_popescu;you two are gonna write a gpg contract ? 714076;1402526255;mike_c;what fun is that. i'll take it at cost. 714077;1402526257;mircea_popescu;this is getting excited. 714078;1402526283;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Sold. 714079;1402526309;mike_c;k, send addr sometime and i will send payment 714080;1402526343;BingoBoingo;mike_c: The payout address for that bet works 1PzuSnKaJsKwgyAqb6sqc5nsw55v2MnHoz 714081;1402526384;mike_c;ok. i'm going to send from a hot wallet, so don't send my winnings back there :) 714082;1402526390;mike_c;er, shared wallet 714083;1402526414;BingoBoingo;Alright. When summer cooks the miners and its time to pay you I'll ask for an address. 714084;1402526464;BingoBoingo;;;later tell TheNewDeal I'm afraid I'm out of 'No' stake to sell without losing my excitement. 714085;1402526466;gribble;The operation succeeded. 714086;1402526484;TheNewDeal;haha mkya 714087;1402526487;TheNewDeal;mkay 714088;1402526498;kakobrekla;should be an auction or smth 714089;1402526596;BingoBoingo;Well, it kind of was. 714090;1402526634;jurov;well, stockholm forecast is up to balmy 24C .. not something to fry knc datacenter 714091;1402526646;jurov;ove next week 714092;1402526652;jurov;where's asicminer housed? 714093;1402526715;BingoBoingo;Well, knc ships miners out to other people doesn't it? I think Asicminer is somewhere costal south China. 714094;1402526721;jurov;looks like it's hongkong 714095;1402526742;jurov;33C in Sunday, otherwise less 714096;1402526805;jurov;just picked most concentrated spots 714097;1402526876;BingoBoingo;I'm also considering less concentrated spots, like the Hillbillies in Texas and the MiddleWest whose data center is their garage. 714098;1402526885;kakobrekla;aynone took a look at this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647457.0;topicseen 714099;1402526886;assbot;bitsquare.io - The P2P Fiat-Bitcoin Exchange 714100;1402526893;jurov;how many asics are there? 714101;1402526917;jurov;in hillbillies'garages? 714102;1402526952;jurov;pool ddos will have much higher effect imo 714103;1402526972;BingoBoingo;Well does Slaughter actually have a datacenter? 714104;1402526988;BingoBoingo;I doubt it, but I bet he has a garage. 714105;1402527017;jurov;how many % actm has? 714106;1402527056;BingoBoingo;No idea, but there's a bunch of forum tards and such out there... 714107;1402527088;jurov;he's using forum tards to generate hashrate? 714108;1402527106;BingoBoingo;I think so. 714109;1402527190;BingoBoingo;Thank you mike_c 714110;1402527217;mike_c;no thank you! we'll be the first ever to make money betting against difficulty :) 714111;1402527233;jurov;mike_c rly? 714112;1402527234;mike_c;i think we'll lose, but i like the odds now. 714113;1402527257;mike_c;jurov: first best greatest 714114;1402527257;jurov;iDiff-* was introduced when? a year ago? 714115;1402527281;mike_c;nobody has made money on idiffs betting against difficulty, that's for sure. 714116;1402527287;jurov;i did 714117;1402527296;mike_c;no way. they've all been capped? 714118;1402527300;jurov;till tat + asics came around 714119;1402527327;BingoBoingo;lol 714120;1402527356;jurov;to be precise, i did not bet against difficulty, too. just sold them at sufficiently high price 714121;1402527361;TheNewDeal;actually I made money betting no for april http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/ and may http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/ 714122;1402527361;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 5.6B before April :: 9.83 B (5%) on Yes, 180.55 B (95%) on No | closed 2 months 3 weeks ago 714123;1402527361;assbot;BitBet - May I suggest 9B difficulty? :: 6.44 B (8%) on Yes, 72.03 B (92%) on No | closed 1 month 2 weeks ago 714124;1402527388;mike_c;fine, we won't be the first. but still best greatest. 714125;1402527471;jurov;on that note, can't be some mpif put into idiff MMing? 714126;1402527472;BingoBoingo;!mpif 714127;1402527473;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021649 BTC (Total: 433.00 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 714128;1402527477;TheNewDeal;1K4Fs has virtually 60% of the no 714129;1402527486;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: That's mircea_popescu 714130;1402527494;TheNewDeal;indeed 714131;1402527497;BingoBoingo;It helps to know the other bettors 714132;1402527926;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 714133;1402527934;gribble;Time since last block: 11 minutes and 24 seconds 714134;1402528097;mircea_popescu; on that note, can't be some mpif put into idiff MMing? << too risky 714135;1402528126;TheNewDeal;too frisky?! 714136;1402528171;BingoBoingo;Altcoin, Less Risky than Idiff 714137;1402528172;TheNewDeal;Altcoin makes the cut, but idiff is too frisky? 714138;1402528250;mircea_popescu;yeah. 714139;1402528255;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1XARHGT.txt ) 714140;1402528255;BingoBoingo;!b 5 714141;1402528257;mircea_popescu;altcoin is pretty much risk free. 714142;1402528308;TheNewDeal;on my screen, it shows my message before 714143;1402528330;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: That's because your screen plays favorites 714144;1402528351;BingoBoingo;;;rate TheNewDeal's screen -1 Biased 714145;1402528351;gribble;Error: 'screen' is not a valid integer. 714146;1402528357;TheNewDeal;hahaha 714147;1402528406;kakobrekla;altcoin can only lose 200 satoshi. 714148;1402528421;BingoBoingo;%ticker 714149;1402528422;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 250 Last Price: 143 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 714150;1402528428;kakobrekla;+- 714151;1402528434;mike_c;57 down, 143 to go 714152;1402528468;BingoBoingo;I hope ATC crashes to Doge prices for a while. 714153;1402528480;kakobrekla;how much is doge 714154;1402528486;mike_c;not with this nethash 714155;1402528498;mike_c;it's at like 6 th/s 714156;1402528506;mircea_popescu;doge is what, 50 by now ? 714157;1402528506;BingoBoingo;%diff 714158;1402528507;kakobrekla;which? 714159;1402528508;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 502280.32 in 1204 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -29.79 714160;1402528517;mike_c;kakobrekla: atc. 714161;1402528527;kakobrekla;and dropping 714162;1402528534;mike_c;not exactly 714163;1402528545;kakobrekla;just approximatley? 714164;1402528551;mike_c;nethash was at 5 th/s. then it plummetted to 1 th/s after last diff change. 714165;1402528555;BingoBoingo;Doge is about 68 satoshis 714166;1402528556;mike_c;that lasted a bit 714167;1402528561;mike_c;and now it's at 6 th/s 714168;1402528570;kakobrekla;O_o 714169;1402528576;kakobrekla;someone hopping the diff? 714170;1402528583;Apocalyptic;yeah unbalanced rent some hashpower 714171;1402528597;mike_c;two parties involved. pool-hoppers, and then unbalanced trying to screw the pool hoppers. 714172;1402528598;Apocalyptic;to avoid these hoppers 714173;1402528615;mircea_popescu;<kakobrekla> and dropping << nah was -80% a coupla days ago 714174;1402528657;kakobrekla;so its dropping less :p 714175;1402528678;mike_c;well diff is :) but nethash isn't 714176;1402528694;kakobrekla;yeah nethash is just being hopped 714177;1402528748;mike_c;yeah. it's a bit of a mess. but such is the life of a young altcoin. 714178;1402528768;kakobrekla;the way of the road. 714179;1402528926;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0233 = 0.233 BTC [-] 714180;1402529341;benkay; cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 65 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0004. 24 hr volume: 944 megadoge 714181;1402529596;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.01902 = 0.1712 BTC [+] 714182;1402531304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00085519 = 4.8746 BTC [-] 714183;1402534131;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 714184;1402534136;gribble;Current Blocks: 305334 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1097 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12251801307.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.21254 714185;1402534205;mircea_popescu;damn it's tight. 714186;1402534214;mircea_popescu;;;calc 14 / 1.1756551916903952 714187;1402534214;gribble;11.9082534564 714188;1402534235;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1.19 ** (1/3) 714189;1402534235;gribble;1.05969850212 714190;1402534240;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1.19 ** (1/2) 714191;1402534240;gribble;1.09087121146 714192;1402534277;BingoBoingo;I really don't think we are making it to a third adjustment. 714193;1402534287;mircea_popescu;33 days, of which a week here 714194;1402534297;mircea_popescu;so 26. nope. it ain't happening. 714195;1402534348;BingoBoingo;The trend says yes, but the externalities say no. 714196;1402534388;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/pbz2vxh.jpg 714197;1402534438;BingoBoingo;lol, is that Dogecoin trying to build some interest? 714198;1402534449;mircea_popescu;soon. 714199;1402534485;BingoBoingo;Anyone ever front you that billion Doge to take a short position? 714200;1402534522;mircea_popescu;notrly. 714201;1402534568;mircea_popescu;in spite of all the pretense as to "exchanges" and tips and whatnot, it'd seem 99%+ of all doges are actually held by the admin group 714202;1402534575;mircea_popescu;not much of a currency in any sense. 714203;1402534625;mircea_popescu;!up pgp 714204;1402534692;asciilifeform;re: doge - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2014#713298 714205;1402534692;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 714206;1402534700;asciilifeform;(it was pushed as 'only for the lulz', note) 714207;1402534815;mircea_popescu;i guess so 714208;1402534903;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00085428 = 13.1986 BTC [-] {3} 714209;1402534993;benkay;hey pgp! 714210;1402535006;benkay;;;gettrust pgp 714211;1402535007;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user pgp: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=pgp | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pgp | Rated since: never 714212;1402535065;benkay;huh check out that registration date 714213;1402535240;TheNewDeal;info pgp 714214;1402535302;*;asciilifeform prodded colleague to reg with gribble. he digs out pgp key from... 1992. 714215;1402535329;Apocalyptic;I bet it's sub 1024 bit 714216;1402535340;asciilifeform;1024 if i recall. 714217;1402536126;asciilifeform;'The new, thicker copper layer did resolve the heat build up from the current flow. Temp has been reduced by 20C with the new boards.' (from jborkl, quoting bfl co. lamenting its troubles.) 714218;1402536141;asciilifeform;^ what happens to folks who refuse to do arithmetic before going into production 714219;1402536179;asciilifeform;imagine a manufacturer of, say, ups, or tv, whatnot, posting an update like this. 714220;1402536186;asciilifeform;why this never happens? 714221;1402536222;kakobrekla;also preorders 714222;1402536227;asciilifeform;and this. 714223;1402536255;asciilifeform;i can almost understand taking preorders if you're a broke, ragged dervish. but these folks have already exited that stage. 714224;1402536297;asciilifeform;likewise, luring people into preorders to fund a chip fab project almost makes sense. but boards? 714225;1402536361;kakobrekla;yea but risk on a chip is far greater 714226;1402536408;asciilifeform;i suspect that: when they tape out a dud asic, they simply... take preorders longer. 714227;1402536437;asciilifeform;!up pgp 714228;1402536472;kakobrekla;dunno then why silicon valley isnt silicon anymore. 714229;1402536535;asciilifeform;because usa. 714230;1402536645;*;asciilifeform finds u.s. uni professors hotlinking to images on his site; tempted to replace with goatse 714231;1402536668;Apocalyptic;heh 714232;1402536889;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/snowdenbot-wasnt-just-for-ted-now-lives-in-his-aclu-lawyers-office/ 714233;1402536889;assbot;Snowdenbot wasnt just for TED, now lives in his ACLU lawyers office | Ars Technica 714234;1402536916;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC 714235;1402537432;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: wtf is the point? 714236;1402537472;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Some people instead of just doing IRC get a small car instead? 714237;1402537495;asciilifeform;afaik, these 'robots' were originally intended for 'micromanagement' types to roll around a factory floor, pointing remote-controlled laser pointer at lazy monkeys, mouthing obscenities through speaker 714238;1402537627;BingoBoingo;It still isn't too late for that. 714239;1402537630;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: from your link: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/us-marshals-step-in-thwart-efforts-to-learn-about-cell-tracking-devices 714240;1402537631;assbot;US Marshals step in, thwart efforts to learn about cell tracking devices | Ars Technica 714241;1402537652;asciilifeform;^ turd concerns the use of a well-known mitm gizmo for cellular 714242;1402537686;asciilifeform;(consumer pnohes make no effort to authenticate - whatsoever - so this is trivial) 714243;1402537691;BingoBoingo;Yeah. Amazing how records request can have problems. 714244;1402537730;asciilifeform;the interesting thing is that there is theoretically no need for such a thing, considering that towers are more or less owned by usg 714245;1402537770;BingoBoingo;Indeed 714246;1402537926;asciilifeform;so why mitm? answer: manufacture of guilt. 714247;1402537953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00085407 = 29.9779 BTC [-] 714248;1402538035;asciilifeform;the next 'new york death ray' idiot won't play ball? won't make the necessary phone call? now it can be made... for him. 714249;1402538134;asciilifeform;this is also the answer for why 'heartbleed' was necessary, considering that usg has at-will access to root certs 714250;1402538155;asciilifeform;if you can already read, why mitm? answer: for - writing. 714251;1402538319;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21522 @ 0.00085677 = 18.4394 BTC [+] {3} 714252;1402538362;asciilifeform;in other news: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/04/major-terrorism-trial-secret-first-time-legal-history 714253;1402538362;assbot;Major terrorism trial could be held in secret for first time in UK legal history | Law | theguardian.com 714254;1402539173;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00086204 = 5.6464 BTC [+] {2} 714255;1402540097;Blazedout419;omg so who is going to buy into sha on havelock? 714256;1402540128;mircea_popescu; imagine a manufacturer of, say, ups, or tv, whatnot, posting an update like this. << this is a 2012 comment. 714257;1402540136;mircea_popescu;you're not meta enough by now 714258;1402540310;mircea_popescu; this is also the answer for why 'heartbleed' was necessary, considering that usg has at-will access to root certs << not that simple. 714259;1402540316;mircea_popescu;it had no access to self-signed certs. 714260;1402540393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 50 @ 0.042 = 2.1 BTC 714261;1402540536;mircea_popescu;http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/04/major-terrorism-trial-secret-first-time-legal-history << re this pile of lol 714262;1402540536;assbot;Major terrorism trial could be held in secret for first time in UK legal history | Law | theguardian.com 714263;1402540562;mircea_popescu;on one hand, the legal principle that dorks a la mari reid & her crew may be kept secret will logically extend to defendants, too. 714264;1402540581;mircea_popescu;now any terrorist and any tax evader has good title to refuse any sort of information sharing, much like the prosecutor's own men do. 714265;1402540604;mircea_popescu;moreover, they have very little option in the matter, as their safety strictly depends on this sort of secrecy. 714266;1402540623;mircea_popescu;basically, technology has already made the state impossible, just at the time bitcoin showed up but mostly unrelated to it. 714267;1402540637;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.26079984 = 1.304 BTC [+] {2} 714268;1402542235;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: was gonna answer 'but nobody used self-signed certs' - then remembered having done so personally at one point 714269;1402542368;mircea_popescu;plentyof people do. 714270;1402542723;Mats_cd03;asciilifeform sees monsters in the shadows 714271;1402542730;Mats_cd03;i dunno if i can agree 714272;1402542788;*;asciilifeform also sees monsters under floodlight 714273;1402542800;Mats_cd03;it could be much more mundane 714274;1402542821;Mats_cd03;like it costs the telcos money to staff people responding to LEO requests for access 714275;1402542834;Mats_cd03;and mitm is just simpler in execution 714276;1402542867;asciilifeform;probably exactly this appears on the grant applications, yes. 714277;1402542876;Mats_cd03;lol 714278;1402542945;asciilifeform;incidentally, one can trivially bake the cellular mitm gizmo from consumer hardware. (exercise for alert reader) 714279;1402542980;Mats_cd03;that sounds interesting, go on 714280;1402543000;asciilifeform;;;google verizon network extender hack 714281;1402543001;gribble;It's a Cinch for Hackers to Break Into Your Verizon Network - Gizmodo: ; How To Compete With NSA By Hacking a Verizon Network Extender ...: ; DailyTech - Hackers Show Regular (1 more message) 714282;1402543026;Mats_cd03;i was under the impression the equipment for this kind of thing was approaching <$1000 714283;1402543033;mircea_popescu;10 years ago 714284;1402543035;Mats_cd03;never looked into it 714285;1402543040;asciilifeform;^ vendor declared victory after disabling easy firmware update mechanism on the gadget. board still has jtag port, removable flash, etc. 714286;1402543052;asciilifeform;runs linux! 714287;1402543089;asciilifeform;used to be that it took actual sweat to source 'miniature tower' radio components 714288;1402543147;Mats_cd03;o, but patched, hrm 714289;1402543162;asciilifeform;patch is a joke 714290;1402543164;asciilifeform;as described above 714291;1402543169;Mats_cd03;probably 714292;1402543173;asciilifeform;not probably - certainly 714293;1402543180;asciilifeform;if i like, i desolder the rom and introduce mine. 714294;1402543209;asciilifeform;this is a ~$300 gizmo you can buy - retail 714295;1402543218;asciilifeform;it sits in your house, you can mutilate it at your pleasure 714296;1402543228;asciilifeform;other u.s. telcos have similar products 714297;1402543231;Mats_cd03;how interesting 714298;1402543243;Mats_cd03;do you have a link 714299;1402543249;mircea_popescu;http://giant.gfycat.com/InsidiousIncredibleAlpinegoat.gif 714300;1402543266;asciilifeform;but this isn't particularly interesting. the interesting part is that everything people speak of as 'inseekoore!' re: cellular comms, was baked in very deliberately - and publicly - at the start. 714301;1402543273;asciilifeform;e.g. the toy crypto of gsm 714302;1402543325;Mats_cd03;i generally presume incompetence before malice 714303;1402543366;asciilifeform;;;google A5/1 714304;1402543367;gribble;A5/1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; A5/2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Animation of A5/1 cipher - YouTube: 714305;1402543448;Mats_cd03;how interesting 714306;1402543763;asciilifeform;before the telco 'network extender' gizmos were sold (incidentally, a scam - the telco still charges for minutes despite using the chump's own local wired bandwidth!) mitm-ing was demonstrated using 'software defined radio' (inexpensive board, does exactly what is printed on the crate) 714307;1402543887;dub;femtocells, meh you get to use your handset 714308;1402543919;asciilifeform;yeah, pay per minute for the privilege of using own hardware. 714309;1402543922;asciilifeform;great deal. 714310;1402543951;dub;thats up to provider 714311;1402543968;asciilifeform;all u.s. providers, last i checked, charged exactly the same on femtocell. 714312;1402543975;Mats_cd03;neat, ill have something else i can do with the device im ordering 714313;1402543979;Mats_cd03;http://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/gadgets/products/hackrf 714314;1402543980;assbot;HakShop — HackRF Pre-Order 714315;1402543991;dub;well if you're counting minutes on your mobile, im sorry 714316;1402544003;Mats_cd03;asciilifeform is probably going to tell me im getting ripped off 714317;1402544017;dub;nobody has a hardline these days so its a valid offering 714318;1402544065;asciilifeform;for non-u.s. folks - 'landline' phone is poison here, because it is considered fair game for spam (unlike cell) 714319;1402544075;asciilifeform;so they're slowly going extinct 714320;1402544085;*;asciilifeform never had own landline in entire adult life 714321;1402544091;Mats_cd03;i still get fucking spam 714322;1402544094;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform thye're not so considered in europe but idem gohing extinct 714323;1402544096;Mats_cd03;sucks to suck 714324;1402544125;dub;not so slowly tbh 714325;1402544147;Mats_cd03;wait 20 years 714326;1402544147;asciilifeform;i can get pseudo-landline (tack-on to fiber terminal) for around 10 usd / mo. but... why? 714327;1402544149;mircea_popescu;i had my own landline. it wasn't particularly useful 714328;1402544159;dub;I have pots signal on my dsl line but I couldnt tell you the number 714329;1402544166;mircea_popescu;(trivial to tap too. if you think gsm cypher is bad, try headset-and-hairpins) 714330;1402544210;Mats_cd03;poor cell tower coverage, necessary to have a working phone in an emergency (e.g. elderly person), zombie apocalypse, etc 714331;1402544247;mircea_popescu;internet should be wired, phone wireless. 714332;1402544253;asciilifeform;zombie apocalypse with fiber service, right 714333;1402544281;Mats_cd03;i suppose i should scale it back to natural disaster 714334;1402544331;dub;the emergency service arguemtn for pots is fast becomming irrelevant as teh network becomes less resilient 714335;1402544374;Mats_cd03;and how is it becoming less resilient 714336;1402544381;asciilifeform;the old pots lines are gone where i live. 714337;1402544383;asciilifeform;see: 714338;1402544384;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014&bots=true#656208 714339;1402544385;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 714340;1402544387;dub;you're not wired back to a full CO anymore and the cabinet has no better battery than a cell tower 714341;1402544405;asciilifeform;i've more battery in here than in the cabinets. sad. 714342;1402544414;*;dub sheds a tear for his DMS100 days 714343;1402544724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00086895 = 19.8555 BTC [+] 714344;1402545029;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00086895 = 7.9943 BTC [+] 714345;1402545673;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=430137.msg7167613#msg7167613 714346;1402545673;assbot;[Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) | Page 19 | Bitcointa.lk 714347;1402545822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17699 @ 0.00086062 = 15.2321 BTC [-] 714348;1402547450;mircea_popescu;<Mats_cd03> and how is it becoming less resilient << no comms network is as resilient as the internet 714349;1402547453;mircea_popescu;this, since the 80s. 714350;1402547456;mircea_popescu;by now, forger it 714351;1402547652;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35050 @ 0.00085359 = 29.9183 BTC [-] {3} 714352;1402547733;cgcardona;hi #bitcoin-assets o/ 714353;1402547769;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 714354;1402547771;gribble;Current Blocks: 305362 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1069 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 19 hours, 24 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12309778451.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.70569 714355;1402547868;cgcardona_;ok just wanted to check if this nick had any messages 714356;1402548039;BingoBoingo;Ah, cool 714357;1402548101;cgcardona_;;;ticker 714358;1402548103;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 627.91, Best ask: 629.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.89000, Last trade: 627.9, 24 hour volume: 9746.28690195, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 645.0, 24 hour vwap: 629.9017398 714359;1402548140;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00085786 = 21.1034 BTC [+] 714360;1402548285;mircea_popescu;"The problem here is not the diagnosis, which I share, nor the proposed solutions, which are proper and potent to repel the growing democratic sickness that chokes human creation. Bitcoin provides us a critical escape from forced trust in unaccountable monopolies. However, trust in transactions, per se, should not be the object of ire and in fact cannot be if we want to participate in beneficial ways. Distributed ledg 714361;1402548286;mircea_popescu;ers obviate the need for trust in the money changers, but humans are still trust-seeking and Bitcoin is still money and money is still trust. In a post-Bitcoin world, trust will become more important than ever." 714362;1402548291;mircea_popescu;dude this chick actually got it. 714363;1402548309;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust princessnell 714364;1402548309;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user princessnell: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=princessnell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell | Rated since: Thu May 8 16:20:29 2014 714365;1402548333;mircea_popescu;;;rated princessnell 714366;1402548334;gribble;You rated user princessnell on Sun May 11 18:26:16 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: procurer for the #bitcoin-assets dungeon.. 714367;1402548346;mircea_popescu;;;rate princessnell 2 She's smart. 714368;1402548347;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user princessnell has changed from 1 to 2. 714369;1402548480;BingoBoingo;Defintely on the ball in ways Ms boring isn't. Forbes picked the loser. 714370;1402548563;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/11/longshots-in-three-concise-points/ 714371;1402548630;BingoBoingo;%book 714372;1402548632;atcbot;20k@264 16k@260 35k@250 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 714373;1402548808;BingoBoingo;Coinion seems to have stalled out http://www.coinion.com/ 714374;1402548808;assbot;The Coinion | Bitcoin's Finest News Source 714375;1402549251;mircea_popescu;hard work, easily tired kids, whats to expect. 714376;1402549312;BingoBoingo;You'd think the incentive your PR dropped for them on the forum would have got them reaching for 300 in a year 714377;1402549342;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo "supposing whow " 714378;1402549381;BingoBoingo;The coinion kids. 714379;1402549414;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354054.msg3878420#msg3878420 714380;1402549415;assbot;Introducing: The Coinion, Bitcoin's Finest News Source! Onion-clone for Bitcoin 714381;1402549447;mircea_popescu;http://thecurioustask.tumblr.com/post/88277407744/the-shit-triangle 714382;1402549447;assbot;the shit triangle - Mystery of the Mundane 714383;1402549450;mircea_popescu;someone translate this ? 714384;1402549665;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00085786 = 23.9772 BTC [+] 714385;1402551218;benkay;state media academia 714386;1402551227;benkay;shit triangle 714387;1402551910;benkay;!up Vexual 714388;1402551923;benkay;hey baby 714389;1402551939;Vexual;hey yourself 714390;1402552013;Vexual;I left a shit triangle next to a dumpster last night 714391;1402552136;Vexual;that sounded funnier in my head 714392;1402552159;Vexual;is THAT the shit triangle? 714393;1402552166;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23820 @ 0.00085172 = 20.288 BTC [-] {4} 714394;1402552717;decimation;princessnell's essay is a good read indeed 714395;1402552754;decimation;here's the link for the google-poor http://theumlaut.com/2014/06/10/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains/ 714396;1402552758;assbot;Bitcoin Is Great, But It Won’t Fix Our Monkey Brains | The mlaut 714397;1402552902;decimation;"Trying to supplant our nature with technology is a losing prospect that gets it completely backwards." << what's amusing is that much of the ruling ideology of the USG is exactly this 714398;1402552938;decimation;nearly every gov't department wants to find ways of removing actual human accountability for problems while finding a way to produce government ex machina 714399;1402553015;Vexual;so do big companies 714400;1402553053;decimation;well, anyone with a basic understanding of human nature will realize that humans attempt to shirk responsibility if they think they can get away with it 714401;1402553129;decimation;waiting around and doing nothing while you hope a magic "process" or "committee" or "standarization" will do your job constitutes at least 50% of western officeworker employment 714402;1402553483;Vexual;developed any printer filaments lately? 714403;1402553508;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59000 @ 0.00085271 = 50.3099 BTC [+] {3} 714404;1402554832;davout;morning asseteers and asseteerettes 714405;1402555277;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.0235999 = 0.4012 BTC [+] 714406;1402555433;decimation;Vexual: what do you mean by printer filaments? 3d printers? 714407;1402556558;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43813 @ 0.00084823 = 37.1635 BTC [-] {2} 714408;1402556680;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0699998 = 0.77 BTC [-] {3} 714409;1402557990;fluffypony;davout: morning 714410;1402558693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC 714411;1402558816;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00085065 = 16.8429 BTC [+] 714412;1402558998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42537 @ 0.000843 = 35.8587 BTC [-] {2} 714413;1402559547;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.000825 = 1.6088 BTC [-] 714414;1402560096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24228941 BTC [-] 714415;1402560218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00229967 = 0.2415 BTC [+] 714416;1402562170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0675001 = 0.135 BTC [-] {2} 714417;1402562841;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06769949 = 0.677 BTC [+] 714418;1402565085;BingoBoingo;!up diana_coman 714419;1402565098;BingoBoingo;!up RagnarsBitch 714420;1402565105;BingoBoingo;!up saulimus 714421;1402565116;BingoBoingo;!up Swadq 714422;1402565464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 52 @ 0.02826731 = 1.4699 BTC [+] {3} 714423;1402565468;diana_coman;thanks BingoBoingo, I think I actually should be voiced if I get auth 714424;1402565510;fluffypony;;;gettrust assbot diana_coman 714425;1402565511;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user diana_coman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=diana_coman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=diana_coman | Rated since: Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013 714426;1402565513;fluffypony;yep 714427;1402565515;fluffypony;looks like it 714428;1402565525;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.06999999 = 1.54 BTC [+] {2} 714429;1402566562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41788 @ 0.00082685 = 34.5524 BTC [+] {2} 714430;1402566928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [+] 714431;1402567050;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 174 @ 0.00229957 = 0.4001 BTC [+] 714432;1402567112;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.00229967 = 0.2967 BTC [+] 714433;1402567355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2608866 = 0.7827 BTC [+] 714434;1402567477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2608886 BTC [+] 714435;1402567538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.2608887 = 2.348 BTC [+] 714436;1402568514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+] 714437;1402568758;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00083011 = 26.4805 BTC [+] 714438;1402569002;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+] 714439;1402569403;diana_coman;are the logs of this channel available as a dump (I know about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ but it seems to give them only day by day, while I wanted to play around with a bigger sample) 714440;1402569403;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 714441;1402569470;Namworld;Dafuq youtube... giving me before my video a 1 hour ad video about Bitcoin, "Ride the Great Coming Wave"... Such a scammy ad. 714442;1402569490;kakobrekla;http://www.newsweek.com/2014/06/20/tunnel-vision-254202.html 714443;1402570222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8744 @ 0.00083011 = 7.2585 BTC [+] 714444;1402571618;davout;33a89ace5b971c3ed5862af1cbe272da 714445;1402572906;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2608887 BTC [+] 714446;1402573633;Mats_cd03;;;later tell vexual no is that something i should care about 714447;1402573633;gribble;The operation succeeded. 714448;1402574065;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13036 @ 0.00083814 = 10.926 BTC [+] 714449;1402575308;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> someone translate this ? /// looks Antifragile-inspired (i started reading it yesterday) 714450;1402575651;ThickAsThieves;<+kakobrekla> http://www.newsweek.com/2014/06/20/tunnel-vision-254202.html /// do you come from the future? 714451;1402575684;kakobrekla;bringing you past from the future. 714452;1402575720;ThickAsThieves;thank you for the present 714453;1402575783;fluffypony;lol - https://twitter.com/gynvael/status/475930719769075712 714454;1402575784;assbot;Dear conference organizers: my wife says I have enough t-shirts and you should start giving out trousers. Thank you for understanding. 714455;1402575830;ThickAsThieves;lol 714456;1402576261;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4464 @ 0.00083624 = 3.733 BTC [-] 714457;1402578263;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Ud4Hp5kkw 714458;1402578263;assbot;LEGO Creator: MINI Cooper Designer Video - YouTube 714459;1402578267;fluffypony;can't wait for August 714460;1402578274;fluffypony;such a gorgeous model 714461;1402578594;fluffypony;http://motherboard.vice.com/read/lets-bring-back-the-fax-machine 714462;1402578594;assbot;Let's Bring Back the Fax Machine | Motherboard 714463;1402578613;davout;in case someone was lulz-deprived 714464;1402578614;davout;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648178.0 714465;1402578615;assbot;Bitcoin Losers 714466;1402579406;dub;and one of them posting 400btc for your head 714467;1402579494;fluffypony;throw the jew down the well 714468;1402579535;fluffypony;princessnell favourited my tweet, I'm well on my way to Internet fame :-P 714469;1402579752;davout;dub: yeah, that too 714470;1402579798;davout;i'm waiting for phinneaus to show up on -assets again, so i can pierce him a second butthole in front of everyone 714471;1402579860;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39687 @ 0.00083753 = 33.2391 BTC [+] {3} 714472;1402579902;davout;!up starsoccer 714473;1402579917;davout;;;gettrust assbot starsoccer 714474;1402579918;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask starsoccer!~starsocce@207.12.89.33. Trust relationship from user assbot to user starsoccer: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=starsoccer | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=starsoccer | Rated since: Sat May 12 23:07:51 2012 714475;1402579930;davout;o, you can already voice yourself >< 714476;1402579939;starsoccer;oo lol 714477;1402579941;starsoccer;didnt realize 714478;1402579975;kakobrekla;what did he do davout ? 714479;1402580004;davout;kakobrekla: boiled down version goes something like this 714480;1402580028;dub;the dude has <70 IQ, the end? 714481;1402580038;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19RCWJ.txt ) 714482;1402580038;kakobrekla;!b 2 714483;1402580056;davout;"davout stole 1132 BTC from me, so let's do something really smart here, if someone manages to make him cough up that amount, he can send me 732 BTC and keep 400 BTC for himself" 714484;1402580074;kakobrekla;aha lolk 714485;1402580083;starsoccer;davout, send him 1132 btc 714486;1402580084;starsoccer;pls 714487;1402580084;starsoccer;lol 714488;1402580089;davout;which boils down even further ti "donate 400 BTC to me" 714489;1402580093;dub;'but I'll settle for US$50k!' 714490;1402580095;davout;s/ti/to/ 714491;1402580105;starsoccer;davout, fine send him 50k 714492;1402580107;kakobrekla;fun 714493;1402580110;starsoccer;then me and you split the 400btc 714494;1402580111;starsoccer;;) 714495;1402580123;dub;now forum rocket scientists are like, SO IF I SEND YOU $50K YOU SEND ME 400BTC?! 714496;1402580135;starsoccer;dub, exactly 714497;1402580140;davout;starsoccer: i already have someone willing to do it for only 100 BTC, sorry! 714498;1402580155;starsoccer;do what for 100 btc? 714499;1402580175;starsoccer;you send him 50k USD then we split 400btc so you get 200btc and i get 200btc 714500;1402580177;starsoccer;good day 714501;1402580204;davout;kinda fun going into the office and have everyone be like "o hai, you have a 400 btc contract on your head" :D 714502;1402580216;kakobrekla;lol 714503;1402580279;dub;haha 714504;1402580290;dub;HIRE SOME SERBS TO GET IT 714505;1402580304;kakobrekla;i know some 714506;1402580309;kakobrekla;i cal also hold escrow 714507;1402580313;kakobrekla;can 714508;1402580487;kakobrekla;no takers ? boring. 714509;1402580515;mircea_popescu;hai there persons. 714510;1402580522;dub;this sardokan guy is sure he is getting paid 714511;1402580523;kakobrekla;hi 714512;1402580539;Duffer1;hello 714513;1402580650;dub;ohshi- expedia 714514;1402580654;mircea_popescu;benkay: state media academia << ty 714515;1402580655;dub;nice 714516;1402580716;davout;dub: he's being sardokanastic 714517;1402580745;dub;ah, I was teetering that way but I err on the side of retard 714518;1402580781;mircea_popescu;i feel so left out. who's sandokan ? other than some bollywood action star from the 80s 714519;1402580804;mircea_popescu;( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBoD92ui70 ) 714520;1402580804;assbot;Sandokan Tribute - YouTube 714521;1402580806;kakobrekla;some forumite? 714522;1402580833;davout;he's a french guy that i've met a couple of times, also forumite 714523;1402580855;mircea_popescu;aha 714524;1402580943;Apocalyptic;davout, did he post that on the forum ? 714525;1402580981;davout;Apocalyptic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649176.0 714526;1402580981;assbot;New 400 BTC Bounty Pales Roger Ver's 37.6 BTC Bounty for Return of Stolen BTC 714527;1402580982;mircea_popescu;decimation: waiting around and doing nothing while you hope a magic "process" or "committee" or "standarization" will do your job constitutes at least 50% of western officeworker employment << the best part is that this used to actually work, a century or so ago. 714528;1402581032;mircea_popescu;o wow wait 714529;1402581041;mircea_popescu;phin put a 400 btc bounty on davout's head !? 714530;1402581076;mircea_popescu;!up blackwhite 714531;1402581080;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0008361 = 14.2137 BTC [-] {2} 714532;1402581082;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot blackwhite 714533;1402581082;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user blackwhite: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=blackwhite | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=blackwhite | Rated since: never 714534;1402581102;mircea_popescu;blackwhite the reason you can't say anything is that you';re not in assbot's l2 wot. have you been reading the logs or just idling idly ? 714535;1402581155;mircea_popescu;davout what's the backstory on "At the onset of the InstaWallet fiasco, all three URLs didn't have a bitcoin wallet associated with the generated pages. It wasn't till after I brought it to Boussac's attention that the lesser bitcoin-containing wallet was well-document that it mysterious had the associated wallet address visible on the URL generated site. This is why they refuse to release the name of the forensics aud 714536;1402581155;mircea_popescu;itor(s) because there wasn't one (or more, according to Boussac), in spite of them saying they couldn't because of some fuckin' idiotic NDA clause." ? 714537;1402581156;blackwhite;I have just been busy so primarily just reading once in a while. Was more involved earlier. 714538;1402581185;blackwhite;but getting back to getting more involved again. 714539;1402581188;mircea_popescu;blackwhite right. so meanwhile the channel is +m, to get voice you have to pm assbot !up which only works if you're trusted to any degree by someone assbot trusts. 714540;1402581202;blackwhite;i see 714541;1402581249;davout;mircea_popescu: what specific part of the story are you curious about ? 714542;1402581286;mircea_popescu;well let's see. instawallet had a system whereby ownership is proven by url. the guy had 3 urls. what was not associated with what ? 714543;1402581384;mircea_popescu;his generative grammar is quite bizarre, i can't follow statements like "all three didn't" worth a crap. 714544;1402581392;davout;two of his URLs matched to nothing, pretty simple 714545;1402581396;Apocalyptic; phin put a 400 btc bounty on davout's head !? //looks like it 714546;1402581411;mircea_popescu;davout what do you mean his and what do you mean nothing 714547;1402581418;mircea_popescu;did he lose two of his three urls ? 714548;1402581459;davout;i mean "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM wallets WHERE key = ''" == 0 714549;1402581463;mircea_popescu;in other news, "Following massive rainfalls in Misiones, Argentina, and Santa Catarina and Paran, Brazil, the famous Iguaz Falls are now overflowing, carrying 46,300 cubic meters per second33 times the usual water flow rate." 714550;1402581464;davout;for two of the urls 714551;1402581485;mircea_popescu;davout uh. so then how is it possible he thought he had something there ? 714552;1402581503;davout;i dunno, and tbh i would like to know too 714553;1402581532;davout;some people fell for the "oh hey, here is our tor hidden service for instawallet, deposit bitches" 714554;1402581534;Apocalyptic;"BTW, I would not rule out the possiblity that Boussac himself is a victim of davout to some extent" who's Boussac again ? 714555;1402581535;mircea_popescu;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wOjCTy9_--/strfxwexmbgnjk7b4nus.jpg now vs then : http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--utwlJ8_1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihl9qhl9yy47q1axnuiv.jpg 714556;1402581543;davout;except we didn't have a tor hidden service 714557;1402581545;mircea_popescu;davout so is it possible whoever broke in deleted some records too ? 714558;1402581558;davout;i checked for that against a few backups 714559;1402581566;davout;no results 714560;1402581577;mircea_popescu;what date was the oldest you checked roughly ? 714561;1402581581;davout;one of the first things i thought of 714562;1402581584;pankkake;What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin? 714563;1402581584;pankkake;Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers 714564;1402581585;pankkake;French Bitcoiner = AVOID 714565;1402581593;davout;i don't really recall from the top of my head 714566;1402581607;davout;i tried to find partial url matches too 714567;1402581609;mircea_popescu;well were they a week older than the live db ?a month ? more ? 714568;1402581618;davout;i tried to search by balances 714569;1402581625;davout;a month or two i think 714570;1402581654;mircea_popescu;so as best you can determine, there's a month+ interval where according to phinn he had 1k+ btc, but according to your db he had not ? 714571;1402581654;davout;hence me asking for the deposit addresses and/or the funding transactions 714572;1402581695;davout;that's what the backups convey 714573;1402581726;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/76XfV42YvBI < bonus iguazu 714574;1402581726;assbot;As estan las Cataratas del Iguazu con la crecida - YouTube 714575;1402581736;mircea_popescu;davout did instawallet gpg sign anything ? 714576;1402581742;davout;nope 714577;1402581763;mircea_popescu;so did you say this to him ? did you get any sort of response ? 714578;1402581822;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: he gets asked to prove he deposited 1100+ BTC into Instawallet, providing a transaction ID or a signed BTC addy that sent it or ANYTHING, and he just ignores those requests or talks around them 714579;1402581834;mircea_popescu;aha 714580;1402581849;davout;i asked him "o hey, maybe it could help me if you gave me the deposit addresses" 714581;1402581860;mircea_popescu;well he prolly didn't keep records of any kind 714582;1402581867;davout;the idea being that i could have checked against backups of bitcoind wallets as well with such an information 714583;1402581879;mircea_popescu;ok, so were you on vacation at the time of the hax ? 714584;1402581910;davout;well that's kind of what i figured, and i also figured he'd be too dumb to explore the blockchain by himself 714585;1402581910;blackwhite;pretty good talk on ethereum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dpjN3Mwps 714586;1402581910;assbot;Vitalik Buterin reveals Ethereum at Bitcoin Miami 2014 - YouTube 714587;1402581936;davout;so i went there and used tracked all the addresses linked in any way to the unique IW cold storage address 714588;1402581951;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: sure, BUT if he EVER sent money from Instawallet to someone (say as payment for something) and message'd or email'd them the transaction ID he'd have that, he'd have SOMETHING that could be used 714589;1402581960;mircea_popescu;davout so he does not make a specific claim to either address or transaction, he makes a specific claim as to balance and to url which can't be verified, is the thing ? 714590;1402581966;fluffypony;yes 714591;1402581988;davout;once i had a massive collection of addresses i checked for an address whose received totals matched the balances he claimed, to no avail 714592;1402582018;davout;took a few days for the script to reverse-explore the chain from the CS address 714593;1402582040;fluffypony;every thread that's popped up that I've read has him claiming those two Instawallet URLs (plus a third that had 0.825 BTC or something that he disregards), but no further evidence 714594;1402582044;mircea_popescu;this seems a fools errand as im sure his balance didn't come in one chunk. 714595;1402582046;davout;ended up with around ~100k addresses to check, none of them received the amounts he mentions in the timeframe he mentions 714596;1402582050;fluffypony;the URLs could be complete bullshit 714597;1402582062;davout;mircea_popescu: no, because i checked for totals 714598;1402582072;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: davout's talking about searching for the total received for each address in a timeframe 714599;1402582091;mircea_popescu;that ain't gonna work. 714600;1402582112;mircea_popescu;aaanyway. so were you on vacation when it happened ? 714601;1402582116;davout;fluffypony: not the received total in a timeframe actually, the received total, and then i checked manually the actual deposits against these addresses 714602;1402582165;davout;because the guy is pretty specific, 1000 BTC and 132 BTC, sent in december 2012 to an instawallet address 714603;1402582181;fluffypony;yeah 714604;1402582187;davout;he even provides the exchange rate at the time, this way i'm sure it's not 2011 or whatever 714605;1402582259;mircea_popescu;i don't see much substance to his claim it'd be coming out of 1DavouTAsveznCFHsz688xvbrRAq4u2qm8 going to 16d1yGrEDqSY1xhCnAUWrkahGY2mkWdAYk 714606;1402582328;fluffypony;yeah it's almost like he thinks it impossible that davout could independently have 1k BTC and it *must* come from him 714607;1402582363;pankkake;http://bitbet.us/propositions/ okay… 714608;1402582363;assbot;BitBet Propositions 714609;1402582394;mircea_popescu;fluffypony but if you look at the incoming to that addy, there's no matching chunk 714610;1402582429;mircea_popescu;https://blockchain.info/tx/84c505049bb782b490cc3fb7633238082afb2a2ec21bf1ea0596d6cbc2a61c1e largest bit, in may last. when did isntawallet fail again ? 714611;1402582429;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction 84c505049bb782b490cc3fb7633238082afb2a2ec21bf1ea0596d6cbc2a61c1e 714612;1402582442;mircea_popescu;april 714613;1402582484;fluffypony;yeah 714614;1402582506;mircea_popescu;actually 100, 400, 460 during may, 100 late april. 714615;1402582514;davout;mircea_popescu fluffypony he can go ask jgarzik, the guy paid me 5678 BTC back in the day, also i got into bitcoin at such a time that i mined some blocks on a goddamn CPU 714616;1402582528;mircea_popescu;but anyway davout so why is he claiming you won't release the liquidator;'s name ? 714617;1402582538;mircea_popescu;that's exactly contrary to normal procedure, what's that all about ? 714618;1402582543;davout;he's imagining there is a liquidator 714619;1402582553;davout;i never said there was one, i said there had been an audit 714620;1402582568;mircea_popescu;oh. 714621;1402582571;davout;it was a post-mortem security audit 714622;1402582576;mircea_popescu;i see. 714623;1402582588;davout;the guy is very confused 714624;1402582606;davout;i stopped answering him because i saw he could not grasp some very simple things 714625;1402582628;davout;i explained to him how a shared wallet works, later he refers to it as mumble-jumble 714626;1402582628;mircea_popescu;"Reserved to announced that I have reunited with my lost investment." 714627;1402582634;mircea_popescu;is he francophone ? 714628;1402582644;davout;he's definitely not francophile 714629;1402582653;mircea_popescu;lol 714630;1402582657;fluffypony;lol 714631;1402582667;mircea_popescu;no but i mean he makes these sentences that break my parser all the time 714632;1402582701;fluffypony;pankkake: I'm betting yes on "tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt" 714633;1402582708;mircea_popescu;"Ideally, I prefer to have the entire 1,132 BTC, sans the 400 BTC bounty amount, paid in full to me, but knowing that sometimes arbitration takes place, I'm willing to settle for a minimal amount, with anybody acting as liaison to broker their reward up to 100% of what I may finally recognize. The minimum I'm welling to settle for is $50K USD via BTC or fiat to compensate for my initial investment and the mega hours I 714634;1402582708;mircea_popescu;have put into this fiasco, not to mention the stress." 714635;1402582722;mircea_popescu;wait so the bounty is out of lol wtf how does this work 714636;1402582735;mircea_popescu;"I prefer to use Rassah as escrow" 714637;1402582740;mircea_popescu;so did he fund the bounty or not ? 714638;1402582744;fluffypony;nope 714639;1402582756;fluffypony;*if* he gets it he'll pay out 400 BTC or something 714640;1402582768;davout;the guy is confused, my only hope is that he lawyers up, so that someone can finally talk some sense into him 714641;1402582786;mircea_popescu;fluffypony so then why any need for an escrow? 714642;1402582795;fluffypony;nfi 714643;1402582800;fluffypony;the whole arrangement is confusing as hell 714644;1402582826;mircea_popescu;so basically what he';s trying to do here is send davout to the forum collections agency ? 714645;1402582830;davout;also, for the sake of keeping a public record, the script i used to explore the blockchain in order to try and find his deposit address, none of the two i was looking for appeared 714646;1402582831;fluffypony;yes 714647;1402582831;davout;http://pastie.org/private/zye2fhscut112d7m1m6ga 714648;1402582832;assbot;Private Paste - Pastie 714649;1402582858;mircea_popescu;davout do you have a service address ? 714650;1402582865;fluffypony;maybe he's hoping that by throwing enough of a tantrum davout will just throw money at him 714651;1402582887;davout;mircea_popescu: instawallet's former cold storage address -> 1FrtkNXastDoMAaorowys27AKQERxgmZjY 714652;1402582903;mircea_popescu;fluffypony generally i kinda like phinn, he's very diligent, quite passionate and an off the path sort of thinker 714653;1402582916;mircea_popescu;davout service address is a postal address where one receives service of process 714654;1402582918;mircea_popescu;such as supoenas 714655;1402582927;davout;paymium has one 714656;1402582933;mircea_popescu;alrighty. 714657;1402582944;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yeah I'm talking purely about the way he's treating this particular issue, not in general 714658;1402582962;fluffypony;the constant stream of new threads doesn't play into his favour 714659;1402582981;davout;also, our server hard drives were given to law enforcement when we filed our complaint back in april 2013 714660;1402582985;mircea_popescu;davout so make a single post in that thread, containing paymium's service address, a statement that you've tried to the best of your ability to identify his claims but didn' 714661;1402582998;kakobrekla;someone mixed propositions for 4chan? 714662;1402582999;mircea_popescu;t so far manage to do so and a optionally a link to here to detail that. 714663;1402583009;fluffypony;kakobrekla: that's what I'm guessing 714664;1402583029;davout;in other words, it would simply be best if the guy sued 714665;1402583040;mircea_popescu;davout at this point. 714666;1402583044;fluffypony;agreed 714667;1402583057;mircea_popescu;there doesn't seem to be much room for any sort of mediation 714668;1402583063;fluffypony;once the body of evidence is presented his lawyer would (one hopes) be able to explain things to him 714669;1402583115;chetty;so basically he is claiming a deposit with no actual evidence he made it? Wonder if that would work with my bank? 714670;1402583126;fluffypony;chetty: I think so 714671;1402583150;fluffypony;give it a spin, let us know how it goes 714672;1402583162;mircea_popescu;fluffypony bank'll prolly just pay her. 714673;1402583165;mircea_popescu;what do they care. 714674;1402583178;davout;gotta get off, i'll be back later tonight if someone wants to discuss this further 714675;1402583183;fluffypony;davout: kk 714676;1402583200;mircea_popescu;i think it's discussed tbh. 714677;1402583208;mircea_popescu;;;notes 714678;1402583209;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, frankenmint, Immukization, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, RainMan28, ryepdx, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and vexual. 714679;1402583213;mircea_popescu;;;seen Phinnaeus 714680;1402583214;gribble;Phinnaeus was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 11 hours, 30 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: later 714681;1402583220;mircea_popescu;maybe if the guy shows up 714682;1402583272;mircea_popescu;ahahaha wahahahaha sardokan wins 714683;1402583303;mircea_popescu;I don't understand why phinnaeus would pay 400BTC for 50K$, but I can write the agreement with him and make the deal : Davout will send to trusted escrow 50K$ (in dollard or BTC) Phinnaeus will send to escrow 400 BTC when escrow have both, he will send me 400 BTC and send Phinnaeus is 50K$. I will then send 300 BTC to Davout. We will all waive the right to terminate this agreement and to all actions regarding the insta 714684;1402583304;mircea_popescu;wallet service. 714685;1402583421;pankkake;my experience of the forum is that there is no shortage of high profile delusional scammers, that of course don't think themselves as such 714686;1402583442;pankkake;but davout being a mod there, I don't trust him either! 714687;1402583468;fluffypony;he mods the French sub-forum, it's not exactly a position of power 714688;1402583488;Apocalyptic;it is to a certain extent 714689;1402583508;pankkake;it comes with a special status 714690;1402583519;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548245.0 for more lulz 714691;1402583519;assbot;Go out french moderator ! 714692;1402583569;mircea_popescu;i dunno what to make of this personally. i kinda like phinn and all, but so far this claim of his is not going too far. 714693;1402583587;mircea_popescu;i don't doubt he had 1k or so btc at some point, and i don't doubt he genuinely lost it somehow. 714694;1402583591;mircea_popescu;now exactly how... 714695;1402583601;*;kakobrekla put the poop back in the box 714696;1402583790;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2014#714444 << this "put hashes in bitcoin-asset's blockchain" is becoming fashionable i see. 714697;1402583791;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 714698;1402583802;mircea_popescu;certainly better than trying to hijack bitcoin's for the purpose of communication. 714699;1402583846;mircea_popescu;assbot: Dear conference organizers: my wife says I have enough t-shirts and you should start giving out trousers. Thank you for understanding. << lol someone ain't wearing undies ? 714700;1402583907;mircea_popescu;http://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/moss-072913-_1_0.jpg << tshirt and knickers, best schoolgirl uniform of 2005 714701;1402583999;mircea_popescu;"I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me" 714702;1402584000;mircea_popescu;heh 714703;1402584008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0707059 = 0.2121 BTC [+] 714704;1402584031;fluffypony;"the price didn't move in the direction I expected in 6 months! suicide time!" 714705;1402584055;mircea_popescu;I bought several at $1.000, many others at $550, but at the end, I am a looser in term of financial results. 714706;1402584056;mircea_popescu;But absolutely Hodling. Never sold any Bitcoin, only bought and HODL 714707;1402584059;mircea_popescu;this is a sa job btw. 714708;1402584172;fluffypony;sa as in South African? 714709;1402584189;TomServo;something awful, I would guess 714710;1402584195;fluffypony;oh 714711;1402584198;fluffypony;third time I've made that mistake 714712;1402584235;mircea_popescu;well because they're pretty irrelevant by now, so you wouldn't normally know. 714713;1402584260;mircea_popescu;but yeah, originally it was all "o, how the bitcoiners don't understand basic socialism as canon accepted by everyone" 714714;1402584274;mircea_popescu;then it was "o the press in its quest for bullshit is betraying the holy canon of socialism" 714715;1402584300;mircea_popescu;by now it's sunk into the depths of pathetic : trying to get a thread going, which gets 6 pages out of which 2/3 is their kindling 714716;1402584353;mircea_popescu;i mean any half-literate scammer in sierra-leone can get a good flamewar raging for 500 pages in two weeks, the self appointed cream of teh internets slash intellectual core of progressivism can't even get to 12 ?! 714717;1402584496;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.070706 = 0.8485 BTC [+] 714718;1402584524;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 714719;1402584527;gribble;Current Blocks: 305435 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 996 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12414329811.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.59499 714720;1402585116;ThickAsThieves;you know it's just gonna explode during the diff before the bet 714721;1402585133;ThickAsThieves;it's a diff bear trap 714722;1402585239;mircea_popescu;bet is closed by nowi think 714723;1402585260;ThickAsThieves;ah 714724;1402585273;mike_c;spoken like a man who has been creamed in the past betting against difficulty 714725;1402585277;ThickAsThieves;Current weight: 798 714726;1402585302;mircea_popescu;he got it pretty bad at some point i recall, what was it, 50 btc ? 714727;1402585306;ThickAsThieves;yep 714728;1402585306;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-empowers-first-global-peer-peer-lender-btcjam/ 714729;1402585306;assbot;How Bitcoin Empowers the First Global Peer-to-Peer Lender BTCJam 714730;1402585316;fluffypony;19% APR return for lenders 714731;1402585324;ThickAsThieves;btcjam is spamming the web this week 714732;1402585331;ThickAsThieves;putting that VC money to use i guess 714733;1402585338;mike_c;echo "td { overflow: hidden; }" >> bitbet.css 714734;1402585338;fluffypony;yeah 714735;1402585360;mircea_popescu;fluffypony they finally figured out that 60% return rate isn't really such a good number ? 714736;1402585370;fluffypony;so it would seem 714737;1402585390;mircea_popescu;what was their round anyway ? i forget 714738;1402585466;mircea_popescu;http://www.aysa.com.ar/index.php?id_seccion=725 << anyone notice anything ? 714739;1402585468;assbot;.: AySA - Agua y Saneamientos Argentinos S.A. :. 714740;1402585468;ThickAsThieves;undisclosed 714741;1402585501;mircea_popescu;"PHP has encountered an Access Violation at 01C20AFD" 714742;1402585599;ThickAsThieves;we need some new diff bets 714743;1402585639;mircea_popescu;prolly ya 714744;1402585717;kakobrekla;mike_c ? 714745;1402585774;ThickAsThieves;this one is pretty good http://bitbet.us/bet/877/difficulty-over-21bn-by-summers-end-2014/ 714746;1402585774;assbot;BitBet - Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014 :: 0.6 B (55%) on Yes, 0.48 B (45%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 90`314 (100`000 to 3) 714747;1402585777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06800105 = 0.136 BTC [-] {2} 714748;1402585917;mircea_popescu;ya not so bad 714749;1402585926;mircea_popescu;o look it's a kitten! where've you been moiety 714750;1402585934;moiety;hello! 714751;1402585947;moiety;i've had such a disater moving! i've had no internet 714752;1402585954;mircea_popescu;taking the sex weeks literally ? 714753;1402585956;moiety;disaster* 714754;1402585973;moiety;lol well i am finally in and almost out of the other one 714755;1402586003;moiety;relying on transport help is not good for moving 714756;1402586075;mircea_popescu;lol so i moved across the ocean faster than you did across town ? 714757;1402586081;mike_c;kakobrekla: does opera render diffrently on proposition page? those crazy titles go off my screen 714758;1402586085;moiety;I'm sorry i didn't even have email. flipping library is being refurbed. how is everyone? 714759;1402586112;moiety;lolpretty much mircea_popescu i ran out of funds half way and was in this empty flat for a few days 714760;1402586140;mircea_popescu;pretty great. you have the logs of all time to go through now :D 714761;1402586150;mircea_popescu;but yeah, i wasn't in rift for about a month, people were throwing a fit 714762;1402586235;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 73(Y):27(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.175 BTC. Current weight: 90,308. 714763;1402586263;moiety;honestly i wish id had the logs when i had no internet lol have you all settled in now then mircea_popescu? 714764;1402586271;mircea_popescu;yeah 714765;1402586272;kakobrekla;mike_c i see this in opera and chrome http://i.imgur.com/62OkoI9.png 714766;1402586314;mike_c;(latest?) chrome: http://i.imgur.com/9jfHPjY.png 714767;1402586360;mircea_popescu;http://browsershots.org/http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 714768;1402586361;assbot;Website Overview for http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 714769;1402586455;kakobrekla;doesnt your browser know of word-wrap: break-word; 714770;1402586483;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heretic-salmon-teriyaki/ 714771;1402586556;mike_c;you mean "word-break: break-word;" 714772;1402586579;kakobrekla;hum? 714773;1402586581;fluffypony;that looks delicious, mircea_popescu 714774;1402586589;kakobrekla;break-break: broken-break; ? 714775;1402586590;fluffypony;I think I'm going to try that this w/e and report back 714776;1402586592;mircea_popescu;it was pretty good. 714777;1402586605;fluffypony;advantage of having a vegetarian wife: more for me 714778;1402586622;mircea_popescu;more food for you, better sex for you ? 714779;1402586629;mircea_popescu;yeah, veggie wives aren't so bad. 714780;1402586633;fluffypony;a win-win! 714781;1402586650;mike_c;break broken, looks like you fixed it? 714782;1402586656;fluffypony;of course, she'll probably outlive me by 20 years, but c'est la vie 714783;1402586670;mircea_popescu;women do that anyway 714784;1402586728;mircea_popescu;actually someone should make a lolpost about "break the age glass ceiling! women should be killed off by the government so that on average they live as long as men!!11" 714785;1402586735;kakobrekla;mike_c i just made your browser reload css 714786;1402586748;mike_c;versioned statics are good. 714787;1402586760;mike_c;working now, thank you for hitting ctrl-r for me. 714788;1402586766;kakobrekla;:) 714789;1402586770;Apocalyptic;kako is the css wizard 714790;1402586779;kakobrekla;nah 714791;1402586785;mircea_popescu;http://browsershots.org/http://bitbet.us/propositions/ << clearly problem exists between mike_c monitor and mike_c's chair :D 714792;1402586786;assbot;Website Overview for http://bitbet.us/propositions/ 714793;1402586786;kakobrekla;also thats an insult 714794;1402586792;Apocalyptic;:) 714795;1402586804;mike_c;psh, no pebkac. 714796;1402586837;fluffypony;glasses maybe? 714797;1402586846;mircea_popescu;yes. one glass of scotch 714798;1402586849;mircea_popescu;one glass of ice. 714799;1402586852;fluffypony;lol 714800;1402586858;mircea_popescu;!up surf 714801;1402586883;mircea_popescu;moiety you still have a btc with me, got an address yet ? 714802;1402586998;fluffypony;moiety: just use Instawallet 714803;1402587000;fluffypony;:-P 714804;1402587008;mircea_popescu;lol 714805;1402587150;moiety;i do but there's a lot of time left 714806;1402587180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00083601 = 5.4341 BTC [-] 714807;1402587639;kakobrekla;re propositions and rss, do you ppl want pending and approved/rejected sources or just the latter 714808;1402587668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2907 @ 0.00083601 = 2.4303 BTC [-] 714809;1402587760;mircea_popescu;just dump them all in there with a flag 714810;1402587778;kakobrekla;? 714811;1402587915;mike_c;that would be more json than rss 714812;1402587970;kakobrekla;id rather to json tbh 714813;1402587977;kakobrekla;rss is retarded 714814;1402588032;kakobrekla;if i would be the author if it, id kill myself. 714815;1402588077;mircea_popescu;so do json 714816;1402588084;mircea_popescu;IN rss :D 714817;1402588107;mircea_popescu;mike_c doesn't rss have field extensibility ? you gotta use cdata ? 714818;1402588184;mike_c;it's more that rss is for updates. so you have entry for pending, then later an entry for approved/rejected? 714819;1402588208;kakobrekla;or 2 sources 714820;1402588209;fluffypony;Gaven Andresen answered a question on Reddit, it's nice to know Redditards have switched from religious metaphors to pop culture: 714821;1402588210;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27ye08/serious_i_couldnt_answer_this_question_when/ci5peas 714822;1402588210;assbot;kinoshitajona comments on [Serious] I couldn't answer this question when discussing Bitcoin with my Dad: Isn't it sometimes beneficial to allow governments to stabilise their currency if there is uncontrollable inflation/deflation due to unavoidable events? Wouldn't a global currency cause poorer countries to be left behind? 714823;1402588263;Mats_cd03;lol 714824;1402588291;mike_c;how will argentina issue worthless bonds in bitcoin?? 714825;1402588358;mike_c;maybe bitbet propositions issue is simply solved by showing all props for last 30 days. 714826;1402588370;mike_c;instead of just 50 or whatever 714827;1402588400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 333 @ 0.00035999 = 0.1199 BTC [-] {3} 714828;1402588462;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 384 @ 0.00035979 = 0.1382 BTC [-] {2} 714829;1402588644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00082939 = 10.7406 BTC [-] {2} 714830;1402588761;mircea_popescu;of fucking course a global currency would cause poorer countriesd to be left behind 714831;1402588791;benkay; http://www.youtube.com/embed/76XfV42YvBI < bonus iguazu // holy forces of nature, buttman 714832;1402588791;assbot;As estan las Cataratas del Iguazu con la crecida - YouTube 714833;1402588801;mircea_popescu;that is the fucking point of currency and more generally life on earth. so that lazier kids get left behind in footbal practice, and that dumber kids get left behind dating 714834;1402588804;mircea_popescu;and on and fucking on. 714835;1402588817;mircea_popescu;benkay ya, wanna go whitewatering ? :D 714836;1402588824;chetty;http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2014/06/solar-flares-disrupt-communications-on-earth-could-send-shockwave-on-friday-the-13th/ 714837;1402588825;assbot;Solar Flares Disrupt Communications on Earth, Could Send Shockwave on Friday the 13th - ABC News 714838;1402588842;benkay;if it gets you in a barrel and over the falls sign me up 714839;1402588851;mircea_popescu;o no! 714840;1402588887;benkay;oh yes 714841;1402588888;benkay;con3 714842;1402588922;benkay;i like this part of the logs where i can ignore the derping about some idiot trying to scam davout 714843;1402588949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.87487208 BTC to 8`766 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 714844;1402588989;[]bot;Bet created: "Difficulty change to block 308448 13% or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/907/ 714845;1402589235;kakobrekla;anyway http://bitbet.us/propositions/?json and http://bitbet.us/propositions/?json&limit=123 714846;1402589238;kakobrekla;default is 50 714847;1402589369;benkay;wait that was hardly any logs at all 714848;1402589445;mike_c;i like how the query parameters are order-dependent :D 714849;1402589466;mike_c;http://xkcd.com/927/ 714850;1402589466;assbot;xkcd: Standards 714851;1402589466;benkay;positional url parameters 714852;1402589467;benkay;nice 714853;1402589487;mike_c;very pythonic, *args and **kwargs 714854;1402589498;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00082137 = 6.2013 BTC [-] 714855;1402589525;kakobrekla;fuck you haxors! 714856;1402589530;benkay;"yeah sure, i'll take whatever you throw at me." 714857;1402589543;benkay;"just a big gaping hole over here - please to insert datadicks" 714858;1402589573;mircea_popescu;did kako just ruin bitbet ? 714859;1402589582;kakobrekla;not yet. 714860;1402589591;benkay;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp56F_UCEAA1UCa.jpg 714861;1402589605;mike_c;^ lol 714862;1402589663;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-releases-photos-neptune-pcb/ 714863;1402589766;nubbins`;hi 714864;1402589771;nubbins`;lel @ davout 714865;1402589775;benkay;mornins 714866;1402589788;nubbins`;(re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649176.0) 714867;1402589789;assbot;New 400 BTC Bounty Pales Roger Ver's 37.6 BTC Bounty for Return of Stolen BTC 714868;1402589986;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00082466 = 21.1113 BTC [+] 714869;1402590108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 415 @ 0.00035978 = 0.1493 BTC [-] {3} 714870;1402590169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 387 @ 0.00035957 = 0.1392 BTC [-] 714871;1402590230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 645 @ 0.00035769 = 0.2307 BTC [-] 714872;1402590352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00082137 = 22.7519 BTC [-] 714873;1402590471;nubbins`;;;view 714874;1402590474;gribble;#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.040388 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 714875;1402590779;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 850 @ 0.00035501 = 0.3018 BTC [-] {2} 714876;1402591433;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot bigtip 714877;1402591433;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask bigtip!~bigtip@valley-239-134.csicable.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bigtip: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bigtip | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bigtip | Rated since: Mon Apr 1 18:04:09 2013 714878;1402591474;bigtip;;;ratingsystem getrating assbot bigtip 714879;1402591474;gribble;(ratingsystem getrating ) -- Get rating information for . 714880;1402591487;bigtip;;;ratingsystem getrating bigtip 714881;1402591488;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask bigtip!~bigtip@valley-239-134.csicable.net . User bigtip, rated since Mon Apr 1 18:04:09 2013. Cumulative rating 121, from 69 total ratings. Received ratings: 69 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 72 positive, 5 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bigtip 714882;1402591712;mircea_popescu;bigtip never seen you before :p 714883;1402591713;mircea_popescu;welcome 714884;1402591735;*;bigtip waves 714885;1402591946;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, the salmon looks really delicious, so far I knew how to cook a similar dish, without the wine and spice though 714886;1402592057;mircea_popescu;why without the wine and spice ? 714887;1402592069;mike_c;;;seen unbalanced 714888;1402592070;mircea_popescu;but anyway, salmon isvery tolerant. you can eat it raw, you can eat it cooked to any degree 714889;1402592070;gribble;unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 26 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything 714890;1402592086;mircea_popescu;oft times ill just put it to fire for a few minutes and have it for breakfast 714891;1402592095;mircea_popescu;mike_c ya tell him to come over 714892;1402592102;mircea_popescu;i wanna congratulat him on his atc purchase 714893;1402592105;Apocalyptic;yeah, I often eat it raw 714894;1402592125;Apocalyptic; why without the wine and spice ? // that's the way I learnt it 714895;1402592127;chetty;wine is not a usual ingredient of teriyaki 714896;1402592131;Apocalyptic;indeed 714897;1402592136;mircea_popescu;rice wine is, yes! 714898;1402592143;Apocalyptic;oh rice wine 714899;1402592148;mircea_popescu;well ? 714900;1402592155;chetty;rice wine vinegar 714901;1402592180;Apocalyptic;I don't make my own teriyaki, sadly 714902;1402592237;chetty;but to be fair he did say it was heretic version :) and sounds pretty good 714903;1402592267;mircea_popescu;balsamic + wine ~= rice wine + vinegar 714904;1402592274;asciilifeform;'I realized that Ive never touched a fax machine beforethat its as abstract, for me, as the laser guns...' << clearly never dealt with usg. fax is mandatory to this day! 714905;1402592350;mircea_popescu;maybe had lawyers 714906;1402592426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5047 @ 0.00082466 = 4.1621 BTC [+] 714907;1402592466;asciilifeform;afaik usg contractors still submit invoices via fax. 714908;1402592731;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3803 @ 0.00082466 = 3.1362 BTC [+] 714909;1402593097;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31597 @ 0.00082955 = 26.2113 BTC [+] 714910;1402593097;mircea_popescu;Ok so here's a story : BitBet curently has 19 World Cup bets open. The average bet on these is .175 (excluding house and mpif), like so .79, .44, 0, .21, .60, .10, .54, .03, 0, 0, .01, 0, .05, .28, .01, .04, 0, .11, .11. Now, on top of these, there's no less than 30 bets pending approval on WC, pretty much "X country will advance from groups". 714911;1402593126;mircea_popescu;obviously mods wanted to consult. now, in the spirit of being in argentina and these people loving the wc, i ok'd the whole bulk 714912;1402593151;*;asciilifeform read backwards, parsed wc as watercloset 714913;1402593162;mircea_popescu;but, let me point out, this is pretty horrible business for bitbet, per se. and obviously, i'll be using this data to inform further decisions on what to accept. 714914;1402593200;mircea_popescu;so logically a) if you wonder later why your zeroconf sports bet got rejected by mods, the reason ios probably here and b) if you want to see sport bets on bitbet, this is a bad time to sit and watch and a great time to get involved. 714915;1402593202;[]bot;Bet created: "Brazil will advance form the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/908/ 714916;1402593232;mike_c;sport bets do fine on bitbet (see nba finals bets). soccer on the other hand.. 714917;1402593316;mike_c;Bet created: "Much grass will grow while waiting for somebody to score a goal" 714918;1402593319;[]bot;Bet created: "Croatia will advance form the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/909/ 714919;1402593396;mike_c;you argentines should be watching manu ginobli beat the crap out of lebron. 714920;1402593412;mircea_popescu;obviously also a great time to affliate bitbet, but then again, i couldn't even find an affiliate manager at all 714921;1402593426;mircea_popescu;apparently everyone wants to sit on his ass and derp on reddit about things, nobody wants to work anymore 714922;1402593445;mircea_popescu;mike_c what's a manu ginobli 714923;1402593455;[]bot;Bet created: "Mexico will advance form the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/910/ 714924;1402593470;mike_c;an awesome argentine basketball player currently winning the nba finals. 714925;1402593475;mircea_popescu;aok 714926;1402593517;mike_c;there's a couple frenchies winning too. 714927;1402593571;[]bot;Bet created: "Cameroon will advance form the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/911/ 714928;1402593599;mike_c;amazingly, after getting drilled in the ribs, one of the frenchies did not immediately give up but played through! 714929;1402593599;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 714930;1402593676;[]bot;Bet created: "Spain will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/912/ 714931;1402593701;[]bot;Bet created: "Chile will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/913/ 714932;1402593727;[]bot;Bet created: "Australia will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/914/ 714933;1402593742;[]bot;Bet created: "Netherlands will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/915/ 714934;1402594028;[]bot;Bet created: "Colombia will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/916/ 714935;1402594057;nubbins`;what exactly is an affiliate manager, anyway 714936;1402594088;nubbins`;also, what's pacific salmon like? i've only ever had atlantic :( 714937;1402594108;nubbins`;except for that one time in japan, but that was a long time ago and also my first sushi experience 714938;1402594125;nubbins`;so the whole thing is a bit rose-colored 714939;1402594127;[]bot;Bet created: "Greece will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/917/ 714940;1402594200;[]bot;Bet created: "Japan will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/918/ 714941;1402594261;mircea_popescu;nubbins` this is atlantic noob :D 714942;1402594283;mircea_popescu;and an affiliate manager is a guy who knows a lot of affiliate marketeers who trust him. 714943;1402594296;*;nubbins` checks world map 714944;1402594309;*;asciilifeform only ever heard of 'affiliate marketeer' as euphemism for spammer 714945;1402594331;nubbins`;i swear i didn't confuse argentina with chile :( 714946;1402594336;mircea_popescu;lol 714947;1402594365;[]bot;Bet created: "Cote d'Ivoire will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/919/ 714948;1402594391;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't even know what the state of the industry is anymore. 20 years ago you had the legitimate folk and then the dumb noobs pretending, much like in bitcoin 714949;1402594411;mircea_popescu;maybe in the meanwhile it died, i dunno. probable, judging by the fact that everyone i used to know back then is off the grid. 714950;1402594413;kakobrekla;ascii has it 714951;1402594426;asciilifeform;if it was once alive - now dead, replaced by scar tissue 714952;1402594433;mircea_popescu;i guess so. sad. 714953;1402594449;mircea_popescu;anyway, in 1994 a good affiliate could send you even 100k clicks which'd convert upwards of 10% 714954;1402594471;mircea_popescu;at an average sale of ~60, you do the math. 714955;1402594501;[]bot;Bet created: "Uruguay will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/920/ 714956;1402594600;[]bot;Bet created: "Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/921/ 714957;1402594613;kakobrekla;i think lots of such people moved to seo and such 714958;1402594619;kakobrekla;which is also a scam 714959;1402594630;benkay; sport bets do fine on bitbet (see nba finals bets). soccer on the other hand.. // implying footie's not a sport? 714960;1402594640;mircea_popescu;im prettysure they were doing plenty of seo whatever back then 714961;1402594649;mircea_popescu;except back then it actually worked 714962;1402594654;mike_c;benkay: affirmative. 714963;1402594700;mircea_popescu;295 results found 714964;1402594714;[]bot;Bet created: "Italy will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/922/ 714965;1402594723;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/895/yankees-to-get-most-all-star-selections/ 714966;1402594723;assbot;BitBet - Yankees to get most all-star selections :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 5 days | weight: 94`494 (100`000 to 1) 714967;1402594726;mircea_popescu;look at that junk 714968;1402594739;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/ 714969;1402594739;assbot;BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (45%) on Yes, 0.09 B (55%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 96`230 (100`000 to 1) 714970;1402594747;Apocalyptic;heavy betters indeed 714971;1402594755;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/878/dee-gordon-most-stolen-bases-2014/ 714972;1402594755;assbot;BitBet - Dee Gordon, Most Stolen Bases 2014 :: 0.07 B (70%) on Yes, 0.03 B (30%) on No | closing in 3 months 4 days | weight: 92`205 (100`000 to 1) 714973;1402594806;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/837/nadal-to-win-french-open/ 714974;1402594806;assbot;BitBet - Nadal to win French Open :: 0.13 B (59%) on Yes, 0.09 B (41%) on No | closed 1 week 1 day ago 714975;1402594816;mircea_popescu;basically this is the best proof bitcoin is populated by nerds 714976;1402594819;mircea_popescu;0 interest in sports. 714977;1402594832;benkay;sports betting is a mass thing anyways, isn't it? 714978;1402594834;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/788/a-golfer-from-usa-will-win-the-2014/ 714979;1402594834;assbot;BitBet - A golfer from USA will win the 2014 Masters :: 0.06 B (47%) on Yes, 0.07 B (53%) on No | closed 2 months 2 days ago 714980;1402594845;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/765/okc-thunder-to-top-nba-regular-season-rankings/ 714981;1402594845;assbot;BitBet - OKC Thunder to top NBA regular season rankings :: 0.03 B (30%) on Yes, 0.07 B (70%) on No | closed 2 months 1 day ago 714982;1402594854;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/879/joel-embiid-to-be-1-nba-draft-pick/ 714983;1402594854;assbot;BitBet - Joel Embiid to be #1 NBA Draft Pick :: 0.22 B (71%) on Yes, 0.09 B (29%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 90`156 (100`000 to 75`000) 714984;1402594859;kakobrekla;well that kuka bet was kinda interesting until it was shown its scripted 714985;1402594861;mircea_popescu;mike_c you know nba isn't doing SO much better 714986;1402594870;diametric;i can't wait for the berkshire bet to resolve. 714987;1402594871;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla right ? nerdiest thing ever. 714988;1402594878;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/796/an-eastern-conference-team-will-win-the-nba/ 714989;1402594878;assbot;BitBet - An Eastern Conference team will win the NBA Finals :: 0.97 B (43%) on Yes, 1.28 B (57%) on No | closed 1 week 5 days ago 714990;1402594883;mike_c;http://bitbet.us/bet/842/spurs-to-win-2014-nba-finals/ 714991;1402594883;assbot;BitBet - Spurs to win 2014 NBA Finals :: 0.8 B (41%) on Yes, 1.13 B (59%) on No | closed 1 week 17 hours ago 714992;1402594890;kakobrekla;its sports! 714993;1402594931;mircea_popescu;mike_c you know break even is 10 btc pool right ? 714994;1402594935;kakobrekla;but yea, bitcoin people only interested in bitcoin. 714995;1402594946;[]bot;Bet created: "Switzerland will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/923/ 714996;1402594950;mike_c;well, that's not quite true. you do keep one of the house bets. 714997;1402594953;kakobrekla;ditch the other categories. 714998;1402594988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 10 @ 0.042 = 0.42 BTC 714999;1402594999;mircea_popescu;mike_c a that's true. so i guess 5. 715000;1402595005;kakobrekla;new categories: difficulty, price action, stocks, arrests. 715001;1402595011;mircea_popescu;well guess what! in the past year there's exactly one sports bet that went over 5. you know which ? 715002;1402595019;mircea_popescu;the halep french open one 715003;1402595052;[]bot;Bet created: "Ecuador will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/924/ 715004;1402595075;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla definitely sports don't merit their own category im thinking. 715005;1402595077;[]bot;Bet created: "France will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/925/ 715006;1402595091;[]bot;Bet created: "Honduras will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/926/ 715007;1402595100;kakobrekla;but it helps to keep that part separated from the good part 715008;1402595100;mircea_popescu;the way I figure it, if the wc set fails to attract 500 btc total pool, we'll just ditch sports as a category and mostly reject all proposed sports bet without zeroconf 715009;1402595127;[]bot;Bet created: "Argentina will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/927/ 715010;1402595128;mircea_popescu;just put em all in misc 715011;1402595154;asciilifeform;some reason i imagined sport bets were a 'major thing' (not for me personally, but for a mythical 'unwashed mass waiting to arise') 715012;1402595161;asciilifeform;turns out, no? 715013;1402595166;mircea_popescu;seems not. 715014;1402595175;mircea_popescu;unwashed masses wish to arise THOUGH WAITING 715015;1402595178;mircea_popescu;not through anythingelse. 715016;1402595180;*;asciilifeform recalls betting shop in Timis 715017;1402595184;kakobrekla;perhaps yea if its presented circle like 715018;1402595185;mircea_popescu;tlp actually has a good write-up for this 715019;1402595192;kakobrekla;or whatever its called 715020;1402595201;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla do me a favour, calculat ethe sum pool over the sports bets past 365 days 715021;1402595220;kakobrekla;kay 715022;1402595222;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes, but that's the same bitcents they do here 715023;1402595262;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: one hypothesis: the sports aficionados are... broke 715024;1402595278;mircea_popescu;maybe 715025;1402595280;mike_c;another: they aren't used to betting on games parimutuel style 715026;1402595283;[]bot;Bet created: "Bosnia and Herzegovina will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/928/ 715027;1402595303;los_pantalones;as a sports betting person myself 715028;1402595303;mircea_popescu;mike_c prolly a large factor also. 715029;1402595308;[]bot;Bet created: "Iran will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/929/ 715030;1402595312;los_pantalones;i can say the bitbet contracts don't really do it for me 715031;1402595322;los_pantalones;b/c i need a very last second bet 715032;1402595330;los_pantalones;and live betting during the event 715033;1402595333;[]bot;Bet created: "Nigeria will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/930/ 715034;1402595348;mircea_popescu;mike_c the other way to formulate this is, sports bettors are not motivated by the money. they expect specific sorts of services provided 715035;1402595352;mircea_popescu;for which bitbet is poorly fitted 715036;1402595368;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu like what ? 715037;1402595386;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones drinks, tits, streaming game, betting tips, a whole atmosphere such as it is 715038;1402595392;los_pantalones;nah nah, i do online 715039;1402595395;los_pantalones;i need in game 715040;1402595395;mircea_popescu;in exchange for which they don't mind -50% EV 715041;1402595406;los_pantalones;but i like trading vol 715042;1402595412;los_pantalones;it's not a prediction game 715043;1402595423;mircea_popescu;explain this trading vol thing 715044;1402595434;los_pantalones;we spoke briefly about this before, bitbet is well suited to get an accurate prediction 715045;1402595442;los_pantalones;did you ever use tradesports? 715046;1402595444;los_pantalones;back in the day 715047;1402595449;los_pantalones;all binary bets 715048;1402595451;mircea_popescu;i don't actually bet 715049;1402595454;los_pantalones;live before and during event 715050;1402595469;los_pantalones;let's say event is mp vs pnts trades 0 to 100 715051;1402595470;mircea_popescu;line style ? 715052;1402595476;los_pantalones;no 715053;1402595489;los_pantalones;you are pummeling me early, look fat and out of shape 715054;1402595493;mike_c;contract bets. with bids/asks. 715055;1402595494;los_pantalones;trades near 10 715056;1402595503;los_pantalones;i come back in the second round, look better 715057;1402595505;los_pantalones;moves to 20 715058;1402595511;los_pantalones;there is constant volume 715059;1402595518;los_pantalones;works really well in basketball 715060;1402595525;los_pantalones;big halftime lead, line moves too far to the edge 715061;1402595527;los_pantalones;just fade it 715062;1402595552;los_pantalones;there is vol in the expectation of the outcome of the event during the event, the price moves 715063;1402595558;los_pantalones;i enjoy that 715064;1402595564;los_pantalones;i hate the sportsbook type trading 715065;1402595573;los_pantalones;where you can only bet one side, so bitbet already better in that regard 715066;1402595599;los_pantalones;but still retains the fixed bet part 715067;1402595607;mircea_popescu;im not sure why you think what you're describing isn't already present on bitbet. 715068;1402595622;los_pantalones;when do the sports bets close? 715069;1402595632;mircea_popescu;at some point after the event/ 715070;1402595646;mike_c;it doesn't have fixed odds 715071;1402595649;[]bot;Bet created: "Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/931/ 715072;1402595651;mike_c;odds change 715073;1402595673;[]bot;Bet created: "Portugal will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/932/ 715074;1402595674;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones let me translate what you just described in bitbet terms. 715075;1402595696;mircea_popescu;so, on 1st of month bet MP vs LP is made. game is set for 5th. bet closes on 7th. 715076;1402595699;[]bot;Bet created: "Ghana will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/933/ 715077;1402595703;los_pantalones;looking at bosnia will advance to group stage, the betting closes 23-06-2014, is that after the last potential match 715078;1402595716;mircea_popescu;at game start on 5th, weighted pots are 57k MP 33k LP 715079;1402595724;[]bot;Bet created: "USA will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/934/ 715080;1402595727;los_pantalones;ah, well, then i am absolutely wrong 715081;1402595731;mircea_popescu;and weight is whatever, 85k 715082;1402595735;los_pantalones;i was under the impression the bet closed before the event 715083;1402595739;los_pantalones;i will now promptly go bet 715084;1402595742;mircea_popescu;one hour later, weight being 84,500 you decide to buy more LP 715085;1402595752;mircea_popescu;pot moves 57k to 37k 715086;1402595755;mircea_popescu;so odds went from 715087;1402595757;mircea_popescu;;;calc 57/33 715088;1402595758;gribble;1.72727272727 715089;1402595758;mircea_popescu;to 715090;1402595763;mircea_popescu;;;calc 57/37 715091;1402595763;gribble;1.54054054054 715092;1402595770;kakobrekla;;;calc 67703615976/100000000 715093;1402595770;gribble;677.03615976 715094;1402595780;mircea_popescu;then you want to push the other way ? bet a little more on mp. so its now 58k to 37k 715095;1402595782;mircea_popescu;etc 715096;1402595797;los_pantalones;yes yes, i am a wrong here 715097;1402595799;los_pantalones;and here i go 715098;1402595801;los_pantalones;to place me bets 715099;1402595802;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla that can't be past year. it must be all time 715100;1402595813;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones which is why i need a bunch of fucking affiliates 715101;1402595820;mircea_popescu;to explain this to people, who otherwise would be betting 715102;1402595858;los_pantalones;http://bitbet.us/bet/539/brazil-will-win-fifa-world-cup-2014/ 715103;1402595858;assbot;BitBet - Brazil will win FIFA World Cup 2014 :: 0.49 B (26%) on Yes, 1.41 B (74%) on No | closing in 1 day 6 hours | weight: 486 (100`000 to 1) 715104;1402595859;[]bot;Bet created: "Algeria will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/935/ 715105;1402595861;los_pantalones;this closes in 1 day 715106;1402595866;mircea_popescu;AND the beauty of parimutuel is that you can always adjust your exposure to a pot % 715107;1402595872;mircea_popescu;so you never motherfucking get taken out of the game 715108;1402595874;[]bot;Bet created: "Russia will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/936/ 715109;1402595882;mircea_popescu;you wish to have 1% of the pot, you can make sure you do no matter what happens 715110;1402595882;mike_c;*provided infinite capital. 715111;1402595896;los_pantalones;why does this brazil to win bet close in 30 hours ? 715112;1402595900;mircea_popescu;mike_c provided you own the % of total world capital that you wish your % of the pool to be 715113;1402595914;mircea_popescu;if you own 1% of all bitcoin, you're guaranteed a 1% slice of any bet pool you ever wish to have. 715114;1402595919;[]bot;Bet created: "South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/937/ 715115;1402595942;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones oh fuck. 715116;1402595949;mircea_popescu;you bring a motherfucking VERY GOOD POINT don't you,. 715117;1402595953;los_pantalones;ok, i'm not crazy! 715118;1402595957;kakobrekla;bah i always mix gte and lte. 715119;1402595957;mircea_popescu;i broke the model in the implementation ;/ 715120;1402595965;los_pantalones;yes! 715121;1402595967;los_pantalones;say it! 715122;1402595969;mircea_popescu;jesus fuck. 715123;1402595970;los_pantalones;say "my bad" 715124;1402595989;kakobrekla;258.82066273 satoshi over 166 715125;1402595995;los_pantalones;here i was, feeling like a lazy asshole 715126;1402595996;kakobrekla;eh 715127;1402595999;kakobrekla;satoshi = btc 715128;1402596015;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones my bad :D 715129;1402596019;los_pantalones;nice! 715130;1402596023;los_pantalones;i can die a happy man 715131;1402596035;kakobrekla;;;calc 258/166 715132;1402596035;gribble;1.55421686747 715133;1402596039;kakobrekla;O_o 715134;1402596047;mircea_popescu;anyway, this bitchfest of mine has yielded quite actionable advice from the chan that's +IQ 715135;1402596064;mircea_popescu;specifically, i'll make the mods put close dates for sports bets AFTER the event. 715136;1402596104;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla of which 201 arefrom the cointoss 715137;1402596108;los_pantalones;sweet, the existing WC events will be adjusted 715138;1402596110;mircea_popescu;so 57 over 166. 715139;1402596112;los_pantalones;or just for future 715140;1402596115;los_pantalones;b/c i would like to participate 715141;1402596119;mircea_popescu;meh. 715142;1402596134;mircea_popescu;o how have i sinned ;/ 715143;1402596159;benkay;too bad about that mircea_popescu bitbet, eh 715144;1402596236;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla hey listen, we take the close date on the recent WC batch from 24th to 26th ? 715145;1402596266;kakobrekla;i hate you but ok 715146;1402596270;mircea_popescu;i hate me too. 715147;1402596276;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones there. 715148;1402596337;kakobrekla;from which to which id is this ? 715149;1402596361;mircea_popescu;908 to 937 715150;1402596369;mircea_popescu;and add 1 to close too 715151;1402596377;mircea_popescu;26 close 27 resolve 715152;1402596409;mircea_popescu;give people a fucking chance with the bets clearing 715153;1402596487;kakobrekla;not all end the same day as it is now 715154;1402596500;kakobrekla;we want all on 26 regardless ? 715155;1402596512;mircea_popescu;hm lemme look at this again 715156;1402596513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25037377 BTC [-] 715157;1402596549;chetty;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2656101/Clever-boy-Dogs-prefer-EARN-treats-solving-problems-receiving-handouts.html 715158;1402596550;assbot;Clever boy! Dogs prefer to EARN treats by solving problems, rather than receiving handouts | Mail Online 715159;1402596559;kakobrekla;some are 23th some 24th 715160;1402596565;mircea_popescu;just do it like this : current resolutrion date becomes close date 715161;1402596572;mircea_popescu;new resolution date becomes that +1 day 715162;1402596574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25036387 = 0.5007 BTC [-] 715163;1402596635;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.02982307 = 0.3877 BTC [+] {2} 715164;1402596792;mircea_popescu;i wonder if people's cvs will end up including links to ba logs where i go "my bad" 715165;1402596800;los_pantalones;great point 715166;1402596803;los_pantalones;i will def list that 715167;1402596856;benkay;mine has the links to my few good ideas 715168;1402596883;mircea_popescu;o and ALSO... make close weight 10k 715169;1402596889;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ^ 715170;1402596914;kakobrekla;rm -rf /bitbet 715171;1402596922;mircea_popescu;:( 715172;1402596927;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: knuth's typo cheques 715173;1402596944;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah i was thinking that 715174;1402596964;los_pantalones;oh come to think of it, i love the decay feature of the bitbet on a live event 715175;1402596980;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones yes but 100k to 1 is too much for sports. 715176;1402596988;los_pantalones;prevents all the last minute people glomming onto the trade 715177;1402596996;mircea_popescu;consider our case. bet is made on 1st. weight is 100k. if someone puts 10 btc on it then, it's sealed. 715178;1402596998;los_pantalones;yeah, agreed, just hadn't even thought that through 715179;1402597001;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2200 @ 0.0000628 = 0.1382 BTC [-] 715180;1402597008;mircea_popescu;but if the most it collects is the few bicents we mostly get currently, 715181;1402597019;mircea_popescu;then a few bitcoin bets during the event make sense, even if they're 1/10 weight 715182;1402597024;mircea_popescu;but NOT if they're 1/100000 715183;1402597059;mircea_popescu;so from now on, sports bets will end at 10k, and close after the event. 715184;1402597062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4576 @ 0.00082137 = 3.7586 BTC [-] 715185;1402597080;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu, you are a gentleman and a scholar, tyvm 715186;1402597123;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25038479 BTC [+] 715187;1402597187;mircea_popescu;!up PoUpA 715188;1402597202;mircea_popescu;this should also work nicely with []bot's live streaming of bets. 715189;1402597211;mircea_popescu;-assets will become this place to watch sports! 715190;1402597223;los_pantalones;just what we all wanted 715191;1402597235;los_pantalones;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7u9hP4r1S8&feature=kp 715192;1402597235;assbot;Sports! | Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! | Adult Swim - YouTube 715193;1402597247;mircea_popescu;no idea what i'll do with this entertainment section tho, it's even more fucked up than sports currently. 715194;1402597266;asciilifeform;potentially serious flaw: -assets cannot yet pour beer. 715195;1402597295;Apocalyptic;beer is overrated 715196;1402597439;mircea_popescu;and with this little adventure, Confirmed bets: 10009 715197;1402597442;mircea_popescu;we crossed 10k 715198;1402597455;mircea_popescu;Confirmed total: 14820 BTC. so like 1.482 btc average pool 715199;1402597460;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 715200;1402597461;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.93, Best ask: 618.88, Bid-ask spread: 1.95000, Last trade: 616.93, 24 hour volume: 8565.07142918, 24 hour low: 613.71, 24 hour high: 640.79, 24 hour vwap: 623.452038028 715201;1402597470;mircea_popescu;;;calc 623.452038028 * 1.482 715202;1402597470;gribble;923.955920357 715203;1402597472;mircea_popescu;heh. 715204;1402597568;mircea_popescu;http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/comment/blonde-james-bond-funny-pictures-634373.jpeg 715205;1402597628;benkay;o.O 715206;1402597647;benkay;more girls naked in public please and less...horrorshow. 715207;1402597733;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25038589 BTC [+] 715208;1402597794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25039089 = 0.5008 BTC [+] {2} 715209;1402597800;mircea_popescu;a ok 715210;1402597814;kakobrekla;>Confirmed bets: 10044 715211;1402597818;kakobrekla;thanks to sports spam. 715212;1402597824;kakobrekla;but hey, congrats mircea_popescu . 715213;1402597832;mircea_popescu;no u 715214;1402597836;kakobrekla;NO U 715215;1402597855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25039599 = 0.5008 BTC [+] 715216;1402597866;mircea_popescu;:* 715217;1402597873;kakobrekla;<3 715218;1402597913;mircea_popescu;wait is that a heart or a butt 715219;1402597924;asciilifeform;gramophone horn 715220;1402597930;jurov;i hate how this question comes to me at exactly such moment.. S.MPOE dividend was not paid yet? 715221;1402597953;mircea_popescu;jurov which one ? 715222;1402597970;jurov;may 715223;1402597983;mircea_popescu;may smpoe report will come june with the june report 715224;1402597987;mircea_popescu;twas in teh logs 715225;1402598018;jurov;ok 715226;1402598022;kakobrekla; wait is that a heart or a butt < buartt 715227;1402598032;mircea_popescu;lol 715228;1402598057;jurov;and thus, "it's in the logs" meme was born. 715229;1402598160;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17327 @ 0.00082239 = 14.2496 BTC [+] {2} 715230;1402598297;mircea_popescu;anyway, to try and patch things up with benkay 715231;1402598298;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/480ed4c73785526aafbf545c3de32dc7/tumblr_n0ub91DyCI1sn33z3o1_400.jpg 715232;1402598333;benkay;so underwhelm. 715233;1402598351;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/f84c58f51f22c78593520d54d4d2a3ff/tumblr_n1wk269E0E1ro88meo1_500.jpg 715234;1402598440;benkay;mas 715235;1402598445;benkay;<3 715236;1402598470;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/67144e7e062eccc1d53429021583efda/tumblr_n5wy0rykS41s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 715237;1402598574;benkay;haha excellent. 715238;1402598617;mircea_popescu;perv. 715239;1402598633;jurov;it's possible to have direct links for a category? 715240;1402598644;jurov;http://bitbet.us/browse/?filtercat=Sports does not work 715241;1402598644;assbot;Browse BitBet 715242;1402598648;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00082672 = 30.0926 BTC [+] 715243;1402598706;jurov;i want to spam around with "bet on worldcup nao", such link would help 715244;1402598716;jurov;ofc it should accept ?ref 715245;1402598716;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla might be able to halp :D 715246;1402598735;kakobrekla;http://bitbet.us/browse/sports/ 715247;1402598735;assbot;Browse BitBet 715248;1402598736;mircea_popescu;benkay http://38.media.tumblr.com/d108bbd1b3fe167f8aeebcfbceccd90b/tumblr_n5wx6awLOi1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 715249;1402598748;mircea_popescu;and http://24.media.tumblr.com/0c9afc9d5501435c6196c8cf11861901/tumblr_n5wx2kmAoy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 715250;1402598751;kakobrekla;it accepts ref 715251;1402598794;jurov;lol kakobrekla, that was very exhausting answer 715252;1402598809;kakobrekla;categories are linked from single bet view 715253;1402598814;kakobrekla;you can click on cat name 715254;1402598821;kakobrekla;except if its manul. 715255;1402598825;mircea_popescu;lol 715256;1402598837;jurov;i see, it's helpfully nod underlined 715257;1402598852;jurov;*not 715258;1402598854;kakobrekla;yeah i hate underline. 715259;1402598865;jurov;;;slap kakobrekla 715260;1402598866;*;gribble slaps kakobrekla with a parenthetical clay 715261;1402598879;kakobrekla;dafuq dat hurt 715262;1402598922;mircea_popescu;"I have no interest at all in shooting 4K for adult. It's all I can do to make some of these models look good in "HD". It's way too much definition for some girls" 715263;1402598925;mircea_popescu;ajahaha poorpeople. 715264;1402598934;jurov;can't you at least make the link bluish? 715265;1402598942;kakobrekla;its underlined nao 715266;1402598961;jurov;oh thx (^^) 715267;1402598967;kakobrekla;:* <3 715268;1402599061;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ajahaha poorpeople << still not convinced that this fascinating 'poverty of the spirit' has much to do with money 715269;1402599084;chetty;https://blockchain.info/tx/7ecad9a3e67bebda52c0bdafb53863938b86e30e58eb179aec747903b50baa2d 715270;1402599084;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction 7ecad9a3e67bebda52c0bdafb53863938b86e30e58eb179aec747903b50baa2d 715271;1402599125;benkay;good spot, chetty 715272;1402599136;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35995 @ 0.00083099 = 29.9115 BTC [+] {3} 715273;1402599260;asciilifeform;chetty: related? http://www.coindesk.com/vc-firm-bid-fbi-silk-road-bitcoins 715274;1402599261;assbot;VC Firm Makes Bid for FBIs Seized Silk Road Bitcoins 715275;1402599360;chetty;I guess so 715276;1402599375;mircea_popescu;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/us/politics/eric-cantor-loses-gop-primary.html 715277;1402599378;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 715278;1402599381;mircea_popescu;har har. 715279;1402599446;jurov;lol i read the link as "loses gpg primary" 715280;1402599454;asciilifeform;lol! 715281;1402599465;mircea_popescu;haha 715282;1402599488;chetty;first time in history that a 'party leader' lost in a primary, maybe there is hope for the ussa 715283;1402599502;princessnell;yes i am very happy about that 715284;1402599589;princessnell;i don't think there's much hope but i always enjoy when the lizards have to scramble http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-11/boeing-tumbles-as-cantor-loss-clouds-ex-im-bank-s-future.html 715285;1402599589;assbot;Boeing Tumbles as Cantor Loss Clouds Ex-Im Banks Future - Bloomberg 715286;1402599625;asciilifeform;chetty: about as interesting, imho, as... the death of andropov 715287;1402599664;chetty;well it prolly wont make a drop of difference, but it feels good for a split second 715288;1402599671;princessnell;right :) 715289;1402599673;asciilifeform;exactly this 715290;1402600755;TomServo;It should be noted that the FBI has a lot of bitcoins to sell. In addition to drug-tainted Silk Road coins, the FBI has a much bigger stash: an estimate from Casey Research puts the figure between 5% and 10% of all bitcoins in circulation. 715291;1402600774;TomServo;^ First I've heard of that, is this common knowledge? 715292;1402600955;mike_c;;;calc 132000 / 12000000 715293;1402600956;gribble;0.011 715294;1402600978;mike_c;5% seems high to me 715295;1402601016;mircea_popescu;ok this beats all. 715296;1402601020;mircea_popescu;you're not going to believe it 715297;1402601030;mircea_popescu;argentines don't install fiber WHILE IT RAINS 715298;1402601040;chetty;hahahaha 715299;1402601123;mircea_popescu;TomServo its neither common knowledge nor actually ever documented 715300;1402601130;mircea_popescu;it is perhaps true, in that they've been mining like crazy 715301;1402601271;TomServo;mircea_popescu: Don't worry, I've got an alarm set to check in with you, in what - 49 years now? For your proof. :P 715302;1402601523;chetty;fbi informants demand to be paid in bitcoin!!!! (pass it on, makes a great rumor) 715303;1402601536;Blazedout419;!up only 715304;1402601550;Blazedout419;;;gettrust assbot only 715305;1402601551;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user only: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=only | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=only | Rated since: Mon Feb 17 18:33:39 2014 715306;1402601570;Blazedout419;;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419 715307;1402601570;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013 715308;1402601697;only;anyone know what is happening? 715309;1402601701;only;https://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 715310;1402601702;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 715311;1402601703;only;https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH 715312;1402601703;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH 715313;1402601716;mircea_popescu;only read the logs ? 715314;1402601736;only;mircea_popescu nope, sorry, am reading them right now 715315;1402601881;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.0299996 = 0.39 BTC [+] 715316;1402602045;only;good biz for Eliptic, I guess 715317;1402602135;mircea_popescu;meanwhile a message from the queen 715318;1402602136;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/5baa69490a40a93eba2436a35774380c/tumblr_mfrfgzfSCg1s1k6u9o1_500.gif 715319;1402602340;chetty;last time oil was getting this high we had a market crash ..............look out below 715320;1402602436;jurov;http://gigaom.com/2014/06/12/clever-piece-of-code-exposes-hidden-changes-to-supreme-court-opinions/ lmao law bitrot 715321;1402602436;assbot;Clever piece of code exposes hidden changes to Supreme Court opinions — Tech News and Analysis 715322;1402602459;mircea_popescu;no gpg, no security. 715323;1402602461;mircea_popescu;in other news, http://37.media.tumblr.com/512146b35c62c25752e0aead1faa9b61/tumblr_n5wvm5AW7p1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 715324;1402602517;mircea_popescu;jurov isn't this minitruth quite exactly ? 715325;1402602526;jurov;quite. 715326;1402602643;mircea_popescu;im going to make sure and raise this objection to the us supreme court's competence in any case before it, that it is unqualified to sit as a court because it scams with its published decisions. 715327;1402602685;fluffypony;this looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8s3erGGF90 715328;1402602685;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 715329;1402602686;assbot;Paddington - Official Trailer - The Weinstein Company - YouTube 715330;1402602796;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1127 @ 0.00082844 = 0.9337 BTC [-] 715331;1402603274;asciilifeform;re scotus retcon diddling, obligatory: 715332;1402603275;asciilifeform;http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm 715333;1402603412;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i dunno how someone could seriously propose they're a chief justice and not gpg sign 715334;1402603427;mircea_popescu;it's like some broad in new york cca 1700 pretending she's a fashion guru and not washing 715335;1402603459;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it gets better. military brass (sometimes! optionally!) signs. but with what: ms-outlook plugin. 715336;1402603480;mircea_popescu;sad 715337;1402603493;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: key stored in what: employee badge. 715338;1402603540;BingoBoingo;Approving the Billy Hamilton bet was a mistake. There's no attractive reason to go in on yes, even as a longshot. He's fast whis is exciting, but fast doesn't win any "of the year" awards. 715339;1402603555;asciilifeform;this, one should note, is when they're 'flying the mahogany bomber.' in the field, these folks have ancient hardware that does something like civilized crypto 715340;1402603572;asciilifeform;(as described here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323) 715341;1402603573;assbot;Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. 715342;1402603577;benkay;princessnell: is http://thecurioustask.tumblr.com/post/88526387754/hey-look-what-i-made-pretty-cool-huh this a chart of how much the various countries are subsidizing exports? 715343;1402603578;assbot;hey look what i made. pretty cool huh. - Mystery of the Mundane 715344;1402603589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.070706 = 0.1414 BTC [+] 715345;1402603688;princessnell;benkay specifically, of medium/long-term loan guarantees from G-7 export credit agencies 715346;1402603708;princessnell;there's a ton more subsidies that aren't counted 715347;1402603833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [-] 715348;1402603918;benkay;fascinating. 715349;1402603923;benkay;so this is why the peso isn't doomed. 715350;1402604080;mircea_popescu;princessnell shouldn't they be accounted ? 715351;1402604084;mircea_popescu;!up terpy 715352;1402604092;mircea_popescu;terpy who're you ? 715353;1402604128;princessnell;mircea_popescu this graph is meant to address a specific policy issue. but sure someone should be keeping tabs on that. 715354;1402604138;davout;pankkake: "it comes with a special status" <<< a mod in a local section of the forum isn't much more than a glorified janitor 715355;1402604156;mircea_popescu;princessnell a ok. 715356;1402604209;davout;pankkake: granted i get access to some additionnal derpage in the form of access to the "staff" section 715357;1402604249;davout;(also donators, where goat made some splendid display of butthurt) 715358;1402604262;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: I saw a great baseball play a few days ago - huge hit into outfield, outfielder duffs the catch (bounces off his glove), has this brief moment of confusion before running after it and lobbing it all the way back to home base, and the batter is run out. Now I can't find it. Jog any memories? 715359;1402604347;jurov;!up BigBitz 715360;1402604458;jurov;!up BigBitz 715361;1402604533;los_pantalones;fluffypony yoenis cespedes 715362;1402604536;los_pantalones;he did it twice now 715363;1402604539;los_pantalones;in a short period of time 715364;1402604542;mike_c;the new price chart is awesome. i <3 atc.blockr.io 715365;1402604556;fluffypony;los_pantalones: tks 715366;1402604580;fluffypony;los_pantalones: that throw was insane, I couldn't believe the distance it covered, and it looked like such a lazy lob 715367;1402604708;mircea_popescu;would be even better with volume :D 715368;1402605060;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: That happens at least once a week probably... 715369;1402605070;BingoBoingo;%book 715370;1402605071;atcbot;16k@260 35k@250 2k@240 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 715371;1402605203;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Now on Friday one of the actually rare triple plays happened, though no the still rarer unassisted version http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2014/06/06/cardinals-turn-triple-play/10109459/ 715372;1402605206;assbot;Cardinals turn triple play with bases loaded 715373;1402605259;los_pantalones;only 2 things i enjoy about baseball... 715374;1402605262;los_pantalones;1) yelling "BALK" 715375;1402605267;los_pantalones;2) someone stealing home 715376;1402605292;BingoBoingo;Those are great things. 715377;1402605294;asciilifeform;what's 'balk'? like 'tilt' in pinball? 715378;1402605300;BingoBoingo;I also like fan interference 715379;1402605306;los_pantalones;if the pitcher starts to go into his pitching motion towards the plate 715380;1402605308;los_pantalones;but then stops 715381;1402605311;los_pantalones;and does anything elese 715382;1402605315;los_pantalones;runners advance 715383;1402605321;asciilifeform;false-start ? 715384;1402605324;BingoBoingo;Yeah 715385;1402605326;los_pantalones;it's the most subjective call in most sports 715386;1402605329;los_pantalones;one of* 715387;1402605347;BingoBoingo;All of the great completely subjective calls live in baseball 715388;1402605363;los_pantalones;you could call balk one out of every 3 pitches 715389;1402605371;los_pantalones;in my "pulled totally out of my ass" book of stats 715390;1402605400;Apocalyptic;los_pantalones, note that he can properly pull out of the pitching motion 715391;1402605410;Apocalyptic;then he's allowed to do whatever he wants 715392;1402605415;BingoBoingo;Delay of game is another one of those things called too infrequently. By the book the pitcher has 12 seconds to unload the ball 715393;1402605429;los_pantalones;i like yelling "Defensive 3 seconds" at bball games too 715394;1402605437;los_pantalones;i'm that horrible person that shouldn't be there in the 1st place 715395;1402605566;BingoBoingo;At least it isn't the traditional Philadelphia throwing of batteries. 715396;1402605834;BingoBoingo;The meta-game of trying to call Tommy Johns surgeries well in advance is also an interesting game. 715397;1402606062;BingoBoingo;http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/harrison-ford-injured-star-wars-711457 715398;1402606062;assbot;Harrison Ford Injured on the 'Star Wars: Episode VII' Set - Hollywood Reporter 715399;1402606151;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0238 = 0.119 BTC [+] 715400;1402606301;BingoBoingo;%diff 715401;1402606302;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 489020.64 in 1120 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -31.64 715402;1402606687;kakobrekla;;;ticker 715403;1402606688;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 586.5, Best ask: 588.7, Bid-ask spread: 2.20000, Last trade: 586.5, 24 hour volume: 14120.94970484, 24 hour low: 586.0, 24 hour high: 635.0, 24 hour vwap: 614.907414164 715404;1402606698;mike_c;feds are scaring people 715405;1402606739;kakobrekla;500 here we come. 715406;1402606798;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 715407;1402606800;gribble;Current Blocks: 305478 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 953 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 16 hours, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12475321178.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.11378 715408;1402606824;bitcoinpete;back to almost 96k th/s 715409;1402606861;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: time to load up 715410;1402607074;fluffypony;http://sploid.gizmodo.com/holy-crap-nasas-interplanetary-spaceship-concept-is-fr-1589001939 715411;1402607074;assbot;NASA's real life Enterprise may take us to other star systems one day 715412;1402607106;kakobrekla;bitcoinpete im always as loaded up as i can be. 715413;1402607128;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: lol ya same 715414;1402607203;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: when we can fund nasa for a year with a single btc, i say we ipo that thing 715415;1402607223;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: why not IPO the IPO right now? 715416;1402607293;bitcoinpete;on fluffex? 715417;1402607308;bitcoinpete;the other real bitcoin stock exchange 715418;1402607310;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19464 @ 0.0008283 = 16.122 BTC [-] 715419;1402607312;fluffypony;hmmmmm 715420;1402607319;fluffypony;maybe we should do it properly 715421;1402607326;fluffypony;distributed anonymous corporation 715422;1402607330;jurov;first, only and fluffy 715423;1402607332;kakobrekla;-- 715424;1402607332;fluffypony;on MasterFluff 715425;1402607335;kakobrekla;many hater here but our statistic say all: 715426;1402607335;kakobrekla;7305 members with over 2175.6225769231 bitcoins are trusting us! 715427;1402607335;kakobrekla;and we still pay the 3% daily profit - we are legit 715428;1402607335;kakobrekla;-- 715429;1402607337;fluffypony;you have to buy Fluffcoins 715430;1402607341;Apocalyptic;Fluffmaid imo 715431;1402607346;fluffypony;lol 715432;1402607349;fluffypony;SafeFluff 715433;1402607363;bitcoinpete;fluffereum 715434;1402607365;fluffypony;then you can use your SafeFluffs to trade on Fluffmade 715435;1402607375;fluffypony;or sell shares on Myfluffyium Local Trader 715436;1402607395;bitcoinpete;and buy on fluffstamp 715437;1402607399;Apocalyptic;where is that from kako ? 715438;1402607428;fluffypony;kakobrekla: sounds like a typical HYIP 715439;1402607435;kakobrekla;Apocalyptic , the best forum in the universe (fuck maddox yeah) many hater here but our statistic say all: 715440;1402607435;kakobrekla;7305 members with over 2175.6225769231 bitcoins are trusting us! 715441;1402607435;kakobrekla;and we still pay the 3% daily profit - we are legit 715442;1402607437;kakobrekla;o fuck 715443;1402607444;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610197.msg7278003#msg7278003 715444;1402607445;assbot;Btc-Banker.Com new hybrid cloud, safe and profitable wallet 715445;1402607450;kakobrekla;bad paste there sorry. 715446;1402607451;Apocalyptic;ty 715447;1402607462;Apocalyptic;url says it all, I see nao 715448;1402607571;kakobrekla;fluffypony you gonna do GLFSE too ? 715449;1402607588;fluffypony;LOL 715450;1402607594;fluffypony;BitcoinFlourse 715451;1402607596;*;davout tips some floge to kakobrekla fluffypony bitcoinpete and Apocalyptic 715452;1402607624;davout;let's invite flotcoin and have some fun 715453;1402607654;kakobrekla;floge? 715454;1402607671;kakobrekla;;;ud floge 715455;1402607672;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Floge | The hole left behind from a penis piercing, a derogatory term for any real douche- bag (man that Matt Damon is such a floge) 715456;1402607674;fluffypony;Flogecoin of course 715457;1402607676;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00082576 = 26.5069 BTC [-] {2} 715458;1402607680;fluffypony;or that... 715459;1402607842;davout;<+fluffypony> Flogecoin of course <<< this 715460;1402607909;davout;floge -> "The hole left behind from a penis piercing" <<< don't forget to floss! 715461;1402608029;fluffypony;LOL 715462;1402608039;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: fluffypony you spend entirely too much time on usagi. << is that possible? 715463;1402608048;fluffypony;so after S.LIMBS I think mircea_popescu is going to have to do an F.LUFFY 715464;1402608052;bitcoinpete;laugh a day... 715465;1402608080;bitcoinpete;f.luffy: the enterprise solution for the starship enterprise 715466;1402608084;fluffypony;LOL 715467;1402608125;dub;f.luffer a spinoff from klyemax 715468;1402608164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00082988 = 24.2325 BTC [+] {2} 715469;1402608191;bitcoinpete;spaceporn 715470;1402608193;bitcoinpete;now we're talking 715471;1402608205;Apocalyptic;dat klye... 715472;1402608207;bitcoinpete;we can americanize that japanese shit 715473;1402608244;jurov;africanize 715474;1402608272;jurov;like, hentai with black characters? 715475;1402608433;fluffypony;hah hah 715476;1402608458;fluffypony;F.LUFF - First Best Greatest Africanized Spacepronz 715477;1402608477;dub;;;ud fluffer 715478;1402608478;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fluffer | fluffer. (noun) a person in the adult entertainment industry whose job it is to give male porno stars blowjobs in order to get them ready to perform. Where's my ... 715479;1402608533;davout;dub: lmao 715480;1402608619;bitcoinpete;jurov: precisely. then sell it back to the chinese civilizers there 715481;1402608790;benkay;http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/ 715482;1402608791;assbot;USMS Asset Forfeiture Sale 715483;1402608842;mike_c;oh wow 715484;1402608899;mircea_popescu;!up sHINOBI_CZ 715485;1402608913;kakobrekla;-assets should make a bid, like 29500. 715486;1402608963;mike_c;!bid 29501 715487;1402608964;bitcoinpete;"On Monday, June 30, 2014, by 5:00 P.M. EST, the USMS will notify the winning bidder/bidders that their bid/bids has/have been selected." 715488;1402608983;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla so is this bccb v2.0 ? 715489;1402609003;fluffypony;kakobrekla: you need $200k as a deposit just to bid 715490;1402609011;jborkl;mike_c would you give me your opinion of the blue blocks on bcoinnews 715491;1402609019;kakobrekla;fluffypony so? 715492;1402609022;mike_c;this does not include DPR coins, so.. they don't have control of them? 715493;1402609024;dub;;;market sell 29501 715494;1402609024;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to sell 29501 bitcoins right now would net 9166242.2850 USD and would take the last price down to 1.4500 USD, resulting in an average price of 310.7095 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 26.0473 seconds 715495;1402609027;jborkl;like or no like 715496;1402609042;kakobrekla;no, just offer btc straight 715497;1402609043;bitcoinpete;;;market buy 29501 715498;1402609043;gribble;Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18158.097 bitcoins, for a total of 19094927.9273 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 45.2129 seconds 715499;1402609045;kakobrekla;no conversion. 715500;1402609048;davout;nice dip! x.eur to the moon! 715501;1402609051;fluffypony;lol 715502;1402609061;kakobrekla;its gonna be the highest bid. 715503;1402609065;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/06/target_breach_cyberinsurance_is_a_mess.html 715504;1402609066;assbot;Target breach: Cyberinsurance is a mess. 715505;1402609089;mircea_popescu;<dub> f.luffer a spinoff from klyemax << lol 715506;1402609105;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu you mean the bankster ? 715507;1402609109;bitcoinpete;this sale will provide some of the best price signal in months 715508;1402609116;mike_c;"Transfer Fees. Any transfer fees associated with the transfer of the bitcoins will be paid by the buyer." 715509;1402609173;kakobrekla;o fuck then we are out. 715510;1402609189;mircea_popescu;"The USMS will not transfer bitcoins to an obscene public address, a public address apparently in a country restricted by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), a public address apparently associated with terrorism, other criminal activities, or otherwise hostile to the United States." 715511;1402609204;mircea_popescu;someone warned them about BingoBoingo buying it 715512;1402609212;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla yeah 715513;1402609213;BingoBoingo;lol 715514;1402609215;mike_c;hah! kako's bid doesn't count. i'm lowering my bid to 29499 715515;1402609231;mircea_popescu;why wouldn't it cunt? 715516;1402609238;mike_c;he's a foreigner. 715517;1402609273;fluffypony;so they won't transfer it to my 1fuck address? 715518;1402609278;fluffypony;disappointing. 715519;1402609286;kakobrekla;anyway at the rate btc is going this will be pocket money by friday 715520;1402609293;BingoBoingo;wait fluffypony you've never seen my vanity address? 715521;1402609324;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: no? 715522;1402609333;BingoBoingo;1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 715523;1402609336;fluffypony;LOL 715524;1402609359;mircea_popescu;"its very easy to fuck members serious, hard work -please dont talk shit without any evidence." 715525;1402609407;mike_c;i hope warren buys them all 715526;1402609417;mircea_popescu;scammer : here's a link to a list of registered businesses. we're the 5th 715527;1402609425;mircea_popescu;forum dumb : a tyvm that does a lot. 715528;1402609502;Apocalyptic;^ 715529;1402609542;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/man-arrested-for-parodying-mayor-on-twitter-files-civil-rights-lawsuit/ 715530;1402609543;assbot;Man arrested for parodying mayor on Twitter files civil rights lawsuit | Ars Technica 715531;1402609560;mircea_popescu;"BurtW - be honest and say the true, nobody scammed you, you sent to a other address your bitcoins" 715532;1402609567;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00082565 = 14.1186 BTC [-] 715533;1402609584;mircea_popescu;burt is kinda putting the elbow grease in huh 715534;1402609630;BingoBoingo;Where is this conversation like thing? 715535;1402609790;BingoBoingo;Actual auction dealbreaker "All interested parties must first register with the USMS." 715536;1402609855;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it's piss anyway. some us side fund will buy it, sell it to us, then lose the records. usms can suck it. 715537;1402609978;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: And through all of this the Marshalls will be powerless to keep the coins from vulgar addresses that have yet to be imagined. 715538;1402610030;fluffypony;"We are in violent agreement." 715539;1402610031;fluffypony;lol 715540;1402610121;Apocalyptic;I don't even... 715541;1402610182;pankkake;davout: but no VIP section? 715542;1402610220;pankkake;wow btc going down 715543;1402610235;TheNewDeal;I hope the price drops like a rock until that auction then just skyrockets back up 715544;1402610237;pankkake;understandable, no one should take their users serisously 715545;1402610272;pankkake;well I bought at 480 EUR, hoping to quickly trade it. anothe fail 715546;1402610313;pankkake;as long as bitcointalk is a thing btc will stay <1000 715547;1402610352;davout;pankkake: dem sikrit sections i see -> http://i.imgur.com/wqy9zV2.png 715548;1402610392;pankkake;oh, so a VIP restricted thing. nothing about me in that one? 715549;1402610397;jborkl;6 in a row for ghash 715550;1402610397;mircea_popescu; I hope the price drops like a rock until that auction then just skyrockets back up << lol 715551;1402610415;pankkake;somehow I feel usagi knew something, and that's why he deleted his post about me "deleting" my posts 715552;1402610473;Apocalyptic; somehow I feel usagi knew something // I have trouble to believe that 715553;1402610478;pankkake;lol 715554;1402610489;kakobrekla;maybe he knew the window isnt real. 715555;1402610506;davout;pankkake: the guy is vip? 715556;1402610508;pankkake;I thought it was the spoon 715557;1402610514;pankkake;davout: all scammers are vip 715558;1402610526;kakobrekla;or mods! 715559;1402610529;davout;i really don't get the fetish -assets has for this usagi guy 715560;1402610533;pankkake;I'm not kidding, the majority of them ran scams 715561;1402610533;davout;kakobrekla: OR FRENCH 715562;1402610538;kakobrekla;:D 715563;1402610543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.0238 = 1.2614 BTC [-] 715564;1402610550;pankkake;davout: me neither, they just haven't kept up with the new breed of fail 715565;1402610557;pankkake;it's just that usagi is "still there" 715566;1402610562;mircea_popescu; i really don't get the fetish -assets has for this usagi guy << he's diligently stupid and has been for a long time. 715567;1402610574;mircea_popescu;our very own ito calculus expert. 715568;1402610577;davout;mircea_popescu: at least he's reliable 715569;1402610581;mircea_popescu;in this. 715570;1402610591;pankkake;but you know there's a guy with huge green trust that still has posts saying pirate isn't a ponzi 715571;1402610614;Apocalyptic;pankkake, shocking ! 715572;1402610631;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/mKui8iHr 715573;1402610631;assbot;Sep 05 00:10:53 *copumpkin throws usagi an ito integral Sep 05 00:12:22 my favourite thing about those logs is how dub hasn't changed << yup he still delivers. 715617;1402611450;davout;hory shet, last trade at 411 EUR on BC 715618;1402611467;pankkake;why can't you manipulate the price davout :( 715619;1402611472;pankkake;or at least tell me in advance 715620;1402611475;pankkake;scam! 715621;1402611488;mircea_popescu;lol 715622;1402611492;kakobrekla;ask me 715623;1402611493;davout;pankkake: go introduce yourself in the losers thread i guess 715624;1402611493;TheNewDeal;;;ticker 715625;1402611493;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 558.02, Best ask: 560.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.98000, Last trade: 555.55, 24 hour volume: 16603.12684761, 24 hour low: 555.55, 24 hour high: 630.36, 24 hour vwap: 602.737963932 715626;1402611497;davout;XD 715627;1402611498;TheNewDeal;oooo loving it 715628;1402611499;kakobrekla;i unloaded some at 480 715629;1402611508;kakobrekla;need to buy a new fridge. 715630;1402611519;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.249 = 1.743 BTC [-] {2} 715631;1402611617;mike_c;who wants to buy a spy house? 715632;1402611620;mike_c;http://www.usmarshals.gov/news/chron/2013/041213.htm 715633;1402611621;assbot;U.S. Marshals Selling Russian Spy House in New Jersey 715634;1402611672;mthreat;i'm not sure which is funner to look at, bitpremier or US Marshals 715635;1402611682;mircea_popescu;lol 715636;1402611755;mircea_popescu;The house is listed for sale at $444,900 through Fast Track Real Estate Co. of Waldwick, N.J. Built in 1950, the 1,830 square-foot house has four bedrooms, one and a half bathrooms, a recently-updated kitchen, a garage and an unfinished basement. 715637;1402611774;mircea_popescu;ill be damned if i pay half a million paperthings for something with "one and a half" bathrooms 715638;1402611800;mike_c;no no, you just pay $10k and live a life of indentured servitude to the bank. 715639;1402611821;Azelphur;I'm just imagining a bathroom with a half-cylinder toilet and 50% of a shower 715640;1402611841;mike_c;is this not a thing outside US? half-bath means no shower. 715641;1402611843;mircea_popescu;mike_c 4 bedrooms, that's what, between 6 and 12 people ? 715642;1402611858;mircea_popescu;mike_c all us baths are half baths to begin with 715643;1402611859;mircea_popescu;no bidet 715644;1402611867;mike_c;hehe 715645;1402611874;Azelphur;mike_c: never heard that in UK, also we generally have no bathrooms without a shower, usually it's the bath that gets dropped 715646;1402611902;mike_c;4 bedrooms to me means: master bdrm (2 people), two kids room (2 people), and an office. 715647;1402611945;mircea_popescu;so it's 4 rooms basically. 715648;1402611963;mike_c;well, four walled off rooms with doors. 715649;1402611985;mike_c;then living room/dining room/kitchen/laundry room, etc. 715650;1402612000;mike_c;plus a basement! it's a steal. 715651;1402612006;mircea_popescu;i dun see it. 715652;1402612007;Apocalyptic;unfinished 715653;1402612031;mike_c;montclair is ritzy. pricey town. 715654;1402612111;mircea_popescu;what's so ritzy about it ? seems a dorm town like any other 715655;1402612123;mircea_popescu;does it have some world class cabaret i never heard of or something ? 715656;1402612158;mike_c;it's got old money. enormous mansions. 715657;1402612170;mircea_popescu;yes but what's that do for me ? 715658;1402612183;mike_c;you get to mow their lawns for money. 715659;1402612196;mike_c;plus the schools are good (comparatively), etc. 715660;1402612215;mircea_popescu;so basically this is a parent scam thing. 715661;1402612219;mike_c;yes 715662;1402612248;mike_c;parents and russian spies 715663;1402612251;mircea_popescu;"come live in this shitty house that's overpriced instead of underpriced as it should be, because you pay less-than-class for out-of-class items, always. just so you can imagine your kids get better education" 715664;1402612282;mircea_popescu;if people used the noggin, a 10k house in a neighbourhood with 30k average houses would sell for 9 not for 11 715665;1402612291;mircea_popescu;it can be 11 when it's in the 3k average neighbourhood 715666;1402612296;mircea_popescu;(and is, for that matter) 715667;1402612368;mike_c;here 10k house in 30k neighborhood sells for 25 715668;1402612380;mike_c;and 10k house in 3k neighborhood sells for 5 715669;1402612382;davout;mike_c: "you get to mow their lawns for money." <<< or feincoin 715670;1402612393;dub;here 10k hours in 30k hood sells for 90k 715671;1402612411;mircea_popescu; and 10k house in 3k neighborhood sells for 5 < no it doesn't 715672;1402612425;mircea_popescu;all the best-in-class mansions are overpriced for being best-in-class 715673;1402612489;mircea_popescu;you think the guy with the "largest house in north hollywood" is taking a discount because it's so big ? 715674;1402612496;mircea_popescu;he expects (and gets) a premium 715675;1402612588;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.06199681 BTC. Current weight: 17,391. 715676;1402612623;pankkake;gay 715677;1402612643;fluffypony;lame 715678;1402612678;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC 715679;1402612883;TheNewDeal;sketchy bet made it past the mods http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/#c3060 715680;1402612883;assbot;BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.09 B (68%) on Yes, 0.04 B (32%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 5 days | weight: 96`193 (100`000 to 1) 715681;1402613093;TheNewDeal;oh my price is just jumping around, so fun 715682;1402613178;pankkake;0031 penguirker> .131 BTC @ 406.00 EUR ▼ 24H LOW 715683;1402613178;pankkake;0045 penguirker> .120 BTC @ 445.00 EUR ▲ 715684;1402613185;pankkake;lol bitcoin-central liquidity 715685;1402613201;pankkake;0046 penguirker> .200 BTC @ 415.00 EUR ▼ 715686;1402613240;kakobrekla;bitcoin central is not scammy enough, no vol. 715687;1402613319;mike_c;nobody made that ISIL takes baghdad bet huh. looking interesting. 715688;1402613371;fluffypony;pankkake: you're supposed to follow that up with "b-c is bankrupt! forum mod is scammerz!" 715689;1402613392;pankkake;but forum mod is scammer 715690;1402613444;*;jurov sold for 494 this time xD 715691;1402613559;benkay;;;ticker 715692;1402613560;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 575.5, Best ask: 575.61, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 575.61, 24 hour volume: 21827.38410632, 24 hour low: 550.61, 24 hour high: 630.36, 24 hour vwap: 595.568343633 715693;1402613584;davout;pankkake: 15 EUR spread, looks legit 715694;1402613612;davout;the advantage is that everybody knows bc is definitely not faking volume :D 715695;1402613654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00082574 = 4.8545 BTC [+] 715696;1402613783;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-deploying-cloud-mining-next-week-imperial-card-needs-additional-revisions/ 715697;1402613837;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.02341 = 0.4916 BTC [+] 715698;1402613841;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 715699;1402613843;gribble;Current Blocks: 305489 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 942 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12463166408.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.01039 715700;1402613959;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0023302 = 0.233 BTC [-] 715701;1402614020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 63 @ 0.0231492 = 1.4584 BTC [-] {4} 715702;1402614063;TheNewDeal;LO 715703;1402614065;TheNewDeal;:O 715704;1402614166;TheNewDeal;using $615 predrop and $580 current price, the US Marshalls has lost approximately $1 Million USD since their announcement a few hours ago. 715705;1402614201;benkay;nobody ever accused a bureaucrat of understanding the implications of their actions except maybe mircea_popescu 715706;1402614221;benkay;;;google regulator disproportionate 715707;1402614222;gribble;USFDA penalties on Indian pharma cos disproportionate, Anand ...: ; Issues In Regulating the Price Level - Regulation Body of Knowledge: ; India says US FDA imposed (1 more message) 715708;1402614226;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal wasn't it more like 650 ? 715709;1402614226;benkay;;;google regulator disproportionate trilema 715710;1402614227;gribble;World Energy Trilemma - World Energy Council: ; Notification of close period, value programme and household ...: ; Full-year results statement - (1 more message) 715711;1402614236;benkay;eh 715712;1402614263;BingoBoingo;http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/its-time-publicly-execute-ronald-mcdonald-239 715713;1402614263;assbot;Its Time To Publicly Execute Ronald McDonald · Clickhole 715714;1402614291;mike_c;don't tweet that link, you'll get banned 715715;1402614384;pankkake;I was one of the few kids that never went to mcdonalds 715716;1402614407;pankkake;and since I wasn't brainwashed early, I can't make it past the smell 715717;1402614442;pankkake;I'm not sure it's smell. it's like greasy air 715718;1402614460;pankkake;you can sense humidity, and you can sense greasidity 715719;1402614532;fluffypony;lol 715720;1402614534;fluffypony;greasidity 715721;1402614583;mircea_popescu;pankkake> I'm not sure it's smell. it's like greasy air << it's the smell. boiled hooves. 715722;1402614698;pankkake;I used to walk past a mcdo every day. it was like 100 meters away, but it was down to the road I was on - it fucking stinked 715723;1402614726;pankkake;working there = worst than a nuclear plant 715724;1402614807;BingoBoingo;At least the nuclear plant acknowledges they handle hazardous substances. 715725;1402614813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88687 @ 0.00081908 = 72.6417 BTC [-] {4} 715726;1402614814;pankkake;exactly 715727;1402614832;kakobrekla;eh, bigmac is only mildly radioactive. 715728;1402614941;kakobrekla;you dont even have to clean your teeth with http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/510doramad.png afterwards 715729;1402614988;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 715730;1402614989;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 555.35, Best ask: 556.32, Bid-ask spread: 0.97000, Last trade: 555.0, 24 hour volume: 23591.28559995, 24 hour low: 550.0, 24 hour high: 630.36, 24 hour vwap: 593.12308676 715731;1402614993;mircea_popescu;;;calc 10 / 600 715732;1402614993;gribble;0.0166666666667 715733;1402615399;fluffypony;http://pastebin.com/ufNLW7xZ 715734;1402615399;assbot;My risk assessment of Bitstamp - Pastebin.com 715735;1402615600;kakobrekla;takes them a long time to do 1+1 715736;1402615667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.070706 = 0.9192 BTC [+] 715737;1402615790;mircea_popescu;mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/ there it is 715738;1402615791;assbot;Introducing the D. series pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 715739;1402615794;mircea_popescu;now what was yur prediction ? 715740;1402615825;benkay;someone tweet at these jackholes for me: https://twitter.com/discourse 715741;1402615826;assbot;Discourse (discourse) auf Twitter 715742;1402615841;benkay;"hijacking in browser page search is a crime punisheable by FUUUUUUU" 715743;1402615875;mike_c;oh geez 715744;1402615879;TheNewDeal;found a good line in that "risk assessment" 715745;1402615881;TheNewDeal;I've not talked about Bitfinex since this isn't a sales pitch for them. I've not talked about how they offer leveraged margin trade as well as normal exchange. Nor have I talked about the p2p lending platform where people who don't want to trade can earn swap interest on USD or BTC balance. I've also not mentioned the 5 order types they have: limit 715746;1402615881;TheNewDeal;, market, stop, trailing stop, fill or kill; nor about the OCO orders or hidden orders. Bitfinex is truly way ahead of the curve. 715747;1402615884;mike_c;i was way off. even with my backup guess 715748;1402615921;davout;TheNewDeal: yeah, that was amazing 715749;1402615921;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 715750;1402615937;davout;fluffypony: fun fact, it's also run by a french dude 715751;1402615951;mike_c;my guess was that mpex picked up a new strategic investor. 715752;1402615960;mircea_popescu;what, unnanounced ?! 715753;1402615969;mike_c;well, unannounced yet! 715754;1402615971;mircea_popescu;not happening, that sort of thing. they come and line up when i say 715755;1402615975;mircea_popescu;not the fucking other way around. 715756;1402615985;mircea_popescu;gotta maintain marketplace discipline, as well as all know our own place in this world. 715757;1402616032;mircea_popescu;fluffypony he's also not mentioning the part where bitfinex is a scam ran by the marginally retarded on stolen code. 715758;1402616057;mircea_popescu;uh i mean TheNewDeal 715759;1402616074;TheNewDeal;hahaha 715760;1402616096;mircea_popescu;"24/04/2014 Since so many people are asking privately about my opinion of BTC/USD price direction so I thought I would write something for everyone." 715761;1402616120;mircea_popescu;leaving aside the part where his "opinions" turn out to be wrong, "hits:533" 715762;1402616131;mircea_popescu;ya dude, totally so many people. it's like a downpour of people. 715763;1402616156;mircea_popescu;good thing he hosted it on pastebin with like the minimal features and all, i know of no server setups even dedicated that could have served 533 people since april. 715764;1402616171;mike_c;well, 1 btc ain't what it used to be anyway :) 715765;1402616174;mike_c;https://blockchain.info/tx/e6a777345ccb5e65ca496a1ef123710f5f17f21d695563be47d1846635cf20d3 715766;1402616174;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction e6a777345ccb5e65ca496a1ef123710f5f17f21d695563be47d1846635cf20d3 715767;1402616204;mike_c;hopefully that's the right address and not some haxor 715768;1402616271;mircea_popescu;o shit i totally forgot about the bet 715769;1402616313;mircea_popescu;you were nuts giving me even odds on a prop like that btw. i mean srsly, am i known for predictability or what,. 715770;1402616322;kakobrekla;lol mike_c , ty! 715771;1402616326;mike_c;it was for charity 715772;1402616339;mircea_popescu;a that, yeah. 715773;1402616351;mircea_popescu;i think we're seriously the most charitable people in bitcoin :D 715774;1402616356;mircea_popescu;also first and biggest. 715775;1402616434;mircea_popescu;txn 43 715776;1402616438;mircea_popescu;there goes... 715777;1402616652;mircea_popescu;mike_c when you say backup guess, do you mean you had two human language strings hash to the same md5 ? 715778;1402616675;mike_c;no, just i had another thought about what it might be that wasn't in the hash (or the bet) 715779;1402616685;mircea_popescu;aok 715780;1402616688;BingoBoingo;It's not unimaginable... For that md4 would have made more sense though 715781;1402616694;mircea_popescu;secret ? 715782;1402616705;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00082574 = 33.0296 BTC [+] 715783;1402616715;mike_c;not secret, but haven't i been wrong enough today? :) 715784;1402616737;mircea_popescu;hehe k 715785;1402616740;*;mike_c wriggles off hook 715786;1402616761;mircea_popescu;im curious as a cat what can you ask of me. 715787;1402616785;mike_c;now i'm thinking about how to combine x.eur and d.bpay.. 715788;1402616802;mike_c;but i guess they are both short BTC 715789;1402616848;mircea_popescu;so buy one sell the other logically 715790;1402616870;mike_c;can't sell either 715791;1402616879;mike_c;i can't create either one 715792;1402616909;mircea_popescu;bitch @davout, iirc he had some method 715793;1402616923;davout;not for dirty muricans 715794;1402616928;mircea_popescu;or borrow from someone who holds either 715795;1402616956;mike_c;after all the nice things i said about frenchies today. 715796;1402616963;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/ 715797;1402616968;davout;mike_c: :3 715798;1402616995;davout;that was the first thought i had when reading the d.bpay example 715799;1402617025;davout;buying it would be at the same time betting on bitpay's success and against btc appreciation 715800;1402617031;mircea_popescu;;;seen bugpowder 715801;1402617032;gribble;bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: Whee... http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto 715802;1402617065;mircea_popescu;davout the people who invested in bitpay took the same bet really. 715803;1402617069;mircea_popescu;instead of buying btc for their 30mn. 715804;1402617085;mircea_popescu;leaving aside the fact that they very well can't buy even 10mn worth of btc. 715805;1402617106;davout;how did people bet against btc by investing in bitpay? 715806;1402617108;mike_c;well they can now. 715807;1402617119;mike_c;;;calc 30000 * [ticker --last] 715808;1402617120;gribble;17237400 715809;1402617122;mircea_popescu;davout the same way you would by investing in bitpay. 715810;1402617124;davout;i'm either understanding this wrong, or parsing it wrong 715811;1402617157;davout;hopefully if i do both i benefit from double negative 715812;1402617159;mike_c;like you just said.. it's a bet on bitpay and against btc appreciation. 715813;1402617193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00082574 = 2.7423 BTC [+] 715814;1402617210;davout;you mean it's betting against btc because you pick a bitpay investment over a btc investment? 715815;1402617237;mike_c;right. 715816;1402617238;mircea_popescu;davout yes, because they're fuckwitted leeches and instead of helping grow btc they just try to leech it for fiat profit. 715817;1402617250;mircea_popescu;much like mtgox in its heyday. 715818;1402617275;nubbins`;^ 715819;1402617285;davout;i was understanding this a bit differently 715820;1402617289;kakobrekla;stamp is doing same. 715821;1402617297;mircea_popescu;sure. 715822;1402617324;mircea_popescu;davout i know. that's kinda how the mpex synthetics ruin the life of these people : they make understanding what's going on so much easier. 715823;1402617334;davout;the way i was understanding it was "investing in potato crops is betting against btc appreciation" or at least depreciation of btc relative to potato crops 715824;1402617363;mircea_popescu;right 715825;1402617396;mircea_popescu;mike_c also, this is a dilemma crafted for your shoesize. so, reits are bad right ? how about seits ? where s stands for ... shit i guess. 715826;1402617397;davout;right as in "you got it" or right as in "oh god, where do we start?" 715827;1402617402;mircea_popescu;"not even real" estate. 715828;1402617418;mircea_popescu;davout right as in what you say is true but it doesn't have much to do with the previous 715829;1402617424;mike_c;i will be interested to see how low you have to sell it to get buyers 715830;1402617446;mircea_popescu;i'm not incentivised to sell it too low, i don't need the liquidity. 715831;1402617456;mircea_popescu;it's sufficient for my strategic needs for it to be under par. 715832;1402617474;davout;for all you know they might be keeping fees in btc, no? 715833;1402617484;mircea_popescu;davout sure. so ? 715834;1402617519;davout;that'd imply a correlation between their value and the btc fiat rate 715835;1402617529;mircea_popescu;only to the most naive of perspectives. 715836;1402617552;mircea_popescu;obviously they're not cash-positive if they need 30mn now on top of the 10mn before and the 2.8mn before that or w/e it was. 715837;1402617552;mike_c;if they were profitable enough they wouldn't have taken investment.. 715838;1402617556;mike_c;damnit 715839;1402617559;mircea_popescu;they're just neobee in slow motion basically. 715840;1402617565;mircea_popescu;lol 715841;1402617574;mircea_popescu;mike_c and notice that my lines are so very much longer too :D 715842;1402617581;mike_c;i was doing something else 715843;1402617587;mircea_popescu;so was i 715844;1402617589;mircea_popescu;and she just came 715845;1402617611;[]bot;Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "BTC worth over $5000 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/716/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.30076814 BTC. Current weight: 54,089. 715846;1402617640;mike_c;fwiw, they seem to have better management than neobee 715847;1402617642;*;mircea_popescu sings .. i'm the king of the repartee, the asshole vip... 715848;1402617648;mike_c;but that is saying very little 715849;1402617652;mircea_popescu;mike_c sure. hence the slow motion. 715850;1402617659;mike_c;yeah 715851;1402617684;mircea_popescu;i don't even recall, did they publish their total processed / gross fees for q1 ? 2013 ? anything ? 715852;1402617690;davout;well maybe the reason for taking investment is not that they're unprofitable, but that they need it to grow faster, am i missing something obvious to discrimnate between those two? 715853;1402617691;mike_c;what about acquisitions? that is a common exit path and could make money for fiat investors. 715854;1402617694;mircea_popescu;i know they keep derping about how merchants went from 4k to 40k, but... w/e 715855;1402617706;mircea_popescu;davout yes, the neobee connection 715856;1402617718;mircea_popescu;mike_c private acquisition is also scam. 715857;1402617722;mike_c;davout: point is they aren't cash-flow positive, so they can't be socking away a pile of btc. 715858;1402617735;mircea_popescu;for that matter, in no acquihire do the investors see a dime 715859;1402617752;mike_c;no acquihire, sure. but there are profitable acquisitions (for the acquiree) 715860;1402617756;davout;mike_c: they published the figures? 715861;1402617773;mircea_popescu;mike_c they're rare. 715862;1402617791;mike_c;davout: they are spending more than they make. this is why they need investment. be it for growth, does not matter. they are still spending more then they make. 715863;1402617821;mike_c;mircea_popescu: see whatsapp 715864;1402617822;davout;mike_c: yeah, i understand "cash-flow negative" :D 715865;1402617833;mircea_popescu;the best construction for btc value conservation is if their management is good enough to copy s.mg, and basically they just take the investment turn it to btc and wait 715866;1402617839;mircea_popescu;this we know they're not doing. 715867;1402617841;BingoBoingo;First they call MP a pornographer, then they call him a scammer, later the ignore him... Next they call MP a witch? 715868;1402617843;davout;the question i'm asking is "how do you know?" 715869;1402617866;mike_c;because they keep taking investments. you don't sell pieces of your company for money you don't need. 715870;1402617882;mircea_popescu;mike_c yeah ok, sure. facebook is paying 20bn for bitpay because gallipi & his sister gave zuck such good rusty trombones. 715871;1402617901;davout;mike_c: makes sense, ty! 715872;1402617909;mircea_popescu;lol on 5th pass 715873;1402617919;TheNewDeal;this is going horrible. Just tossed some chicken on the stove and now I have to take a shit. Running around the kitchen trying to hold everything in before I can flip 715874;1402617931;mircea_popescu;be sure to take the time to type 715875;1402617946;TheNewDeal;need something to concentrate on. refuse to flip chicken early 715876;1402617973;mircea_popescu;do you know what peristalsis means ? 715877;1402618002;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo shouldn't it be wizard ? 715878;1402618005;mircea_popescu;i'm not a woman 715879;1402618018;fluffypony;bed time, yo 715880;1402618021;fluffypony;night all 715881;1402618024;mircea_popescu;later 715882;1402618057;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But they refuse to acknowledge that as well 715883;1402618092;davout;aren't there legitimate cases where companies need to raise repeatedly because their current positive cash-flow is not sufficient to address the market as it could be addressed? 715884;1402618096;mircea_popescu;hm i guess you're right 715885;1402618108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082963 = 25.5526 BTC [+] {2} 715886;1402618112;mircea_popescu;davout in theory. 715887;1402618119;davout;i guess not for bitpay 715888;1402618130;davout;you don't need 10x more engineers to process 10x more payments 715889;1402618132;mircea_popescu;once they start laying down rail track and optic fiber... 715890;1402618226;davout;i guess that's closer to what you were explaining initially 715891;1402618548;davout;just had a look at their "team" page 715892;1402618576;davout;31 employees 715893;1402618588;davout;they must be burning quite some cash 715894;1402618635;nubbins`;^ 715895;1402618670;mircea_popescu;from what i hear this 30mn bought them a lease on life worth about a year. 715896;1402618718;kakobrekla;wheres the easiest to check btc price for june 2012 715897;1402618751;kakobrekla;o wait nvm 715898;1402618760;ThickAsThieves;i dunno, this concept of bitcoin services doing a NASDAQ/NYSE IPO, seems somehow naturally unlikely 715899;1402618765;midnightmagic;also, on that team page, manuel araoz builds software that attacks bitcoin 715900;1402618771;*;asciilifeform read log - floored 715901;1402618802;asciilifeform;S.FUSSA! 715902;1402618806;*;ThickAsThieves scrapes asciilifeform from the ground. 715903;1402618807;asciilifeform;('former') 715904;1402618823;mircea_popescu;hm ? 715905;1402618839;BingoBoingo;Another problem with Bitpay is they have a habit of hiring "names" http://www.coindesk.com/elizabeth-ploshay-joins-bitpay/ 715906;1402618839;assbot;Bitcoin Foundation Board Member Elizabeth Ploshay Joins BitPay 715907;1402618849;ThickAsThieves;oh geez... 715908;1402618852;davout;mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume 715909;1402618864;ThickAsThieves;she did seem to be a decent little worker bee for btcf at the conference 715910;1402618871;midnightmagic;inb4 someone finds englund's rehire 715911;1402618879;ThickAsThieves;but i cant imagine what she;d offer bitpay 715912;1402618901;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2421 = 0.7263 BTC [-] 715913;1402618902;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Continued BTCFundnation goodwill... 715914;1402618902;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ set to 2 years load raw data ? 715915;1402618903;assbot;Bitcoin Charts / Charts 715916;1402618910;dub;she seemed retarded in the 'election' interview 715917;1402618919;Apocalyptic;heh 715918;1402618937;mircea_popescu; inb4 someone finds englund's rehire << lol k/ 715919;1402618938;nubbins`;^^ 715920;1402618938;kakobrekla;i found that rtbtc goes back enough 715921;1402618957;ThickAsThieves;<+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: Continued BTCFundnation goodwill... /// isnt bitpay already a plutonium level supernode sponsor member? 715922;1402618965;mircea_popescu;lol 715923;1402618967;kakobrekla;also check this out, 2 years or derping 715924;1402618967;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg7279537#msg7279537 715925;1402618967;assbot;[NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS 715926;1402618970;kakobrekla;60% loss 715927;1402618977;kakobrekla;if my maff is right. 715928;1402618983;mircea_popescu;lol 715929;1402618999;bloctoc;if bitpay takes 3 days to receive the fiat. That's a loan essentially in BTC to be repaid in USD. so, they're shorting btc and will always be shorting the bigger they get. 715930;1402619018;mircea_popescu;kinda 715931;1402619020;ThickAsThieves;meh 715932;1402619027;ThickAsThieves;a flimsy point 715933;1402619031;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: ad-hoc ir spectrometer discussion: no dice. not that you can't train, e.g. neural net to distinguish mdma from shoe polish - you can. but the objective of identifying synthesis byproducts (basement lab folks rarely bother with recrystallization) - this one takes actual brains. 715934;1402619061;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it's a toy. 715935;1402619081;ThickAsThieves;ascii, i finished anathem, thanks 715936;1402619086;asciilifeform;a toy that will hasten the owner's death, if used as theorized here 715937;1402619099;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: fun 715938;1402619104;mircea_popescu;the owner is already swallowing random dusts from strangers. 715939;1402619108;mircea_popescu;hard to hasten 715940;1402619118;asciilifeform;'risk homeostasis' 715941;1402619179;mircea_popescu; mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume << you know the donner party also wasn't as large before as it was at the point it starved to death. 715942;1402619191;ThickAsThieves;and to whomever recommended Antifragile, it was exactly the next book I was looking for, great so far 715943;1402619202;mircea_popescu;it is a great book 715944;1402619224;asciilifeform;so far my favourite taleb is that link mp posted earlier 715945;1402619227;ThickAsThieves;it puts into words concepts ive always kinda had theories about 715946;1402619299;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah this is an interesting point. people believe [because they're trained in school to believe and they never examine it ?] that the "proper" form is and they're at their best in book form 715947;1402619306;davout;mircea_popescu: donner? 715948;1402619317;mircea_popescu;whereas an uncombed, out of bed appearance like those notes is actually better according to the readers 715949;1402619322;mircea_popescu;which is kinda why blogs beat books. 715950;1402619328;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24001 BTC [-] 715951;1402619340;mircea_popescu;davout some dudes, tried to traverse the utah salt marshes, died. 715952;1402619365;mircea_popescu;and this is perhaps the first time i used "dude" in its proper fucking sense in this chan. go me. 715953;1402619369;asciilifeform;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014&bots=true#548272 715954;1402619370;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 715955;1402619379;asciilifeform;^ earlier discussion of items like the taleb notes 715956;1402619396;davout;mircea_popescu: tried dictionary, should've tried wikipedia instead XD 715957;1402619401;mircea_popescu;i dare say the taleb notes and the gangue of great minds found at their burial are not the same 715958;1402619407;ThickAsThieves;thx 715959;1402619428;asciilifeform;quite true, not the same. which is why it's a crying shame gauss, etc. didn't get to print their notebooks while at their best 715960;1402619447;mircea_popescu;i wonder if taleb reads this line before he dies. 715961;1402619463;asciilifeform;doesn't much matter, he already 'did the right thing' 715962;1402619473;mircea_popescu;sure. 715963;1402619511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.000831 = 44.3754 BTC [+] {2} 715964;1402619534;bloctoc;I don't wish to be pedantic, but the donner party did not just die, they ate each other. 715965;1402619539;ThickAsThieves;i'm totally ignorant of taleb other than gaining a familiarity of his name from you guys over the months 715966;1402619555;ThickAsThieves;he paints himself as disliked by his peers, is that the case? 715967;1402619558;mircea_popescu;"IPO - 6/12/12 Seat Price: $1.54 BTC Distributed: 0 715968;1402619558;mircea_popescu;Now - 6/12/14 Seat Price: $22.20 BTC Distributed: 0.056 BTC 715969;1402619559;mircea_popescu;Thanks everyone for the incredible amount of support on this project! I hope we're just getting started." 715970;1402619568;mircea_popescu;ahaha epic. EVERYONE MADE ROI HAND OVER FIST!!11 715971;1402619572;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.24001 = 0.72 BTC [-] 715972;1402619585;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves he doesn't have peers. 715973;1402619592;ThickAsThieves;fair enough 715974;1402619593;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: taleb, as i understand, bet on us collapse, raked in the dough. 715975;1402619596;mircea_popescu;he's disliked by the people who imagine he's not their peer. 715976;1402619633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.070706 = 0.1414 BTC [+] 715977;1402619636;ThickAsThieves;it seems odd to me, since so far his ideas make plenty sense 715978;1402619665;mircea_popescu;yeah, but his simple existence poses some very significant ontological problems to many folk in socialist academia 715979;1402619668;ThickAsThieves;but the human race never fails to find new ways to surprise and disappoint 715980;1402619723;ThickAsThieves;has he ever commented on bitcoin? 715981;1402619737;mircea_popescu;nothing substantial 715982;1402619747;mircea_popescu;but i'd love to have him in here. 715983;1402619757;davout;from what i understand of the black swan, his ideas pretty much destroy the rationales by which risk is managed in traditional finance 715984;1402619762;asciilifeform;afaik he never penetrated the 'bozo barrier field' that surrounds it 715985;1402619766;kakobrekla;ok, maff 715986;1402619766;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg7281538#msg7281538 715987;1402619766;assbot;[NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS 715988;1402619776;mircea_popescu;davout asa bonus he has a lenghty list of "i fucking told you so" for various people. 715989;1402619787;ThickAsThieves;kako haz a sock! 715990;1402619789;mircea_popescu;which is not only unpleasant but in many cases quite dangerous 715991;1402619802;davout;how is it dangerous? 715992;1402619816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.070706 = 0.4242 BTC [+] 715993;1402619830;asciilifeform;good point, actually. anyone else find it interesting that the man still lives? 715994;1402619837;mircea_popescu;davout because to this day about half of the us bureaucracy is shielded by only the flimsy "nobody could have predicted" 715995;1402619843;mircea_popescu;it worked for rice by presidential decree 715996;1402619850;davout;asciilifeform: "afaik he never penetrated the 'bozo barrier field' that surrounds it" <<< haha, that's probably very true 715997;1402619852;ThickAsThieves;hehe i just read the part about he started weightlifting cuz he was worried for his safety 715998;1402619854;mircea_popescu;there's no certain reason for it to work for the entire finance bureaucracy 715999;1402619858;thestringpuller;!mpif 716000;1402619860;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021639 BTC (Total: 432.79 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 716001;1402619873;mircea_popescu;and their political position is made more difficult by the presence of the millitant communists in the democrat party. 716002;1402619882;asciilifeform;i bet mr. t is cleaning ak as we speak 716003;1402619917;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i doubt it. he's actually more expensive to kill than to ignore. 716004;1402619993;mthreat;taleb has tweeted about bitcoin twice: https://twitter.com/search?q=bitcoin%20from%3Anntaleb&src=typd 716005;1402619994;assbot;Twitter / Suche - bitcoin from:nntaleb 716006;1402620010;asciilifeform;;;google Andrei Amalrik 716007;1402620011;gribble;Andrei Amalrik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; ANDREI AMALRIK Part 1 - Stetson University: ; ANDREI AMALRIK WILL THE SOVIET UNION SURVIVE TO 1984: 716008;1402620032;asciilifeform;^ predicted the collapse of ussr, off by 1/2 decade 716009;1402620062;asciilifeform;died in suspicious accident. 716010;1402620124;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform was he a chechen living in turkmenistan ? 716011;1402620140;asciilifeform;http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his242/Notes/Amalrik.html 716012;1402620141;assbot;Andrei Amalrik Notes 716013;1402620303;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/11927081a4f9d472ea04992dd36e023c/tumblr_n5dkw5y7Zw1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 716014;1402620370;ThickAsThieves;http://www.pfhub.com/steve-forbes-says-u-s-will-return-to-a-gold-standard-821/ 716015;1402620371;assbot;Steve Forbes says U.S. will return to a gold standard 716016;1402620401;mircea_popescu;o.O 716017;1402620426;asciilifeform;tungsten standard. 716018;1402620466;mircea_popescu;eh total bs source 716019;1402620469;mircea_popescu;forbes didn't say that. 716020;1402620547;mircea_popescu;wait. he did ?! 716021;1402620558;ThickAsThieves;“Somebody can’t go and use a whole bunch of our patents but then sue us for using one of theirs,” Musk said “That seems like it wouldn’t be a very nice thing to do.” 716022;1402620630;mircea_popescu;apparently the guy is a total gold bug. the ever helpful tardopedia : " His 20 year tenure as head of Forbes magazine coincided with the decline of the publication and the Forbes family empire." 716023;1402620670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51600 @ 0.00083144 = 42.9023 BTC [+] {3} 716024;1402620672;benkay;grammar question: "the time to is nigh if not upon us already" << y/n? 716025;1402620698;ThickAsThieves;i wouldnt accept it 716026;1402620721;benkay;grounds of? 716027;1402620734;ThickAsThieves;it's implied that you'd know when it was upon you, so surmising whether it may already be is only exposing a state of nigh 716028;1402620776;ThickAsThieves;the time is either nigh, now, or passed 716029;1402620783;benkay;lol no the implication is that knowing that a thing is upon one is a hard thing to figure 716030;1402620791;mircea_popescu;the time to is nigh, if not upon us already 716031;1402620816;dub;already upon us, surely 716032;1402620829;mircea_popescu;dub it's not globally warmed enough yet. 716033;1402620865;benkay;"surely nigh if not already upon us". 716034;1402620920;benkay;implying the thing impends and that i've my eye upon it. 716035;1402620926;benkay;huh i seem to like this word. 716036;1402620939;mircea_popescu;your eye impaled upon the impending ? 716037;1402620949;benkay;on it? 716038;1402620955;benkay;my gaze upon it 716039;1402621034;benkay;okay derailment over thanks gents 716040;1402621189;davout;mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#716003 <<< curious about why 716041;1402621190;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 716042;1402621241;ThickAsThieves;cuz it'd draw more attention to his ideas? 716043;1402621280;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2546 @ 0.00083213 = 2.1186 BTC [+] 716044;1402621403;davout;ThickAsThieves: yeah, i was thinking like car accident or whatever way that wouldn't look suspicious 716045;1402621585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00082807 = 18.2589 BTC [-] {2} 716046;1402621647;mircea_popescu;for one, things don't look suspicious for what they are, but for what they look 716047;1402621656;mircea_popescu;for the other, how do you know what he's stashed away ? 716048;1402621657;mircea_popescu;he' 716049;1402621660;mircea_popescu;s paranoid enough. 716050;1402621735;davout;i see 716051;1402621803;benkay;30 employees, 30mn for 1 year of life...1mn/employee? 716052;1402621814;benkay;shit i gotta stop running businesses and start scamming vc's 716053;1402622260;mircea_popescu;benkay also known as moral hazard, this, and why someone's gotta put a stop to it 716054;1402622273;mircea_popescu;this is how the generation of your father failed. 716055;1402622283;bloctoc;benkay - plus marketing, rent, receivables (mentioned earlier) and plane tickets for CEO to find more money. 716056;1402622289;mircea_popescu;actually, failed isn't even the word. we need something strong like the french rate 716057;1402622330;bloctoc;is the french rate that ECB negative rate from a week or two ago? 716058;1402622366;ThickAsThieves;https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/from-silk-road-seized-bitcoins-will-be-sold-for-600-each/ 716059;1402622366;assbot;Place prediction on: Bitcoins seized from Silk Road will be sold for > $600 each 716060;1402622372;mircea_popescu;s'ont rat 716061;1402622394;Mats_cd03;lol 716062;1402622427;asciilifeform;'fairlay' ?! 716063;1402622439;asciilifeform;'durasell' for bitbet? 716064;1402622471;thestringpuller;what's durasell? 716065;1402622477;ThickAsThieves;duracell 716066;1402622480;mircea_popescu;one of. 716067;1402622480;ThickAsThieves;and energizer 716068;1402622482;asciilifeform;nope 716069;1402622485;benkay;no derpacel 716070;1402622499;asciilifeform;'durasell' is a chinese battery (with correct colour scheme) sold at 'dollar stores' 716071;1402622500;mircea_popescu;sincerest form of flattery and all that. 716072;1402622504;asciilifeform;leaks in a few days 716073;1402622510;ThickAsThieves;ah 716074;1402622511;ThickAsThieves;hehe 716075;1402622525;ThickAsThieves;https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/12/17845712_f5aee6f731.jpg 716076;1402622557;asciilifeform;i'dave panicked but russian education (childhood scraping out gunk from leaked sov. batteries) 716077;1402622596;asciilifeform;i also once saw 'parasonic' 716078;1402622607;asciilifeform;there's probably a number of these. 716079;1402622896;benkay;into w 716080;1402622898;benkay;https://chain.com/ 716081;1402622898;assbot;Bitcoin API - Chain 716082;1402622900;benkay;dorp, 'scuse me. 716083;1402622912;cazalla;tfw too poor to own a gameboy, somehow $2 brick from reject shop didn't fill the void 716084;1402622998;asciilifeform;cazalla: http://demotivators.to/media/posters/2921/387985_volk-s-yajtsami.jpg << 'soviet gameboy' 716085;1402623033;asciilifeform;(really wanna play? it's in various pnohe 'app stores' ! believe or not) 716086;1402623052;asciilifeform;http://img04.slando.ua/images_slandocomua/77316215_2_644x461_igra-elektronika-nu-pogodivolk-lovit-yaytsa-fotografii_rev007.jpg 716087;1402623127;cazalla;we had similar knock offs in australia, it was my grandmother who bought me brick when i wanted a gameboy with tetris and she tried to tell me it was the same thing 716088;1402623138;asciilifeform;what was 'brick' ? 716089;1402623154;asciilifeform;actual masonry ? 716090;1402623163;dub;lol 716091;1402623167;cazalla;similar to this http://northwaygames.com/wp-content/uploads/tetris.png 716092;1402623168;dub;I got a rock 716093;1402623232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18722 @ 0.00083213 = 15.5791 BTC [+] 716094;1402623234;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tIhwITwhSg 716095;1402623235;assbot;Charlie Brown: I got a rock - YouTube 716096;1402623261;mircea_popescu;you poor kids 716097;1402623284;asciilifeform;btw i never had the 'wolf & eggs.' too l33t. borrowed from kid next door. 716098;1402623333;asciilifeform;these gizmos were prized rarities. 716099;1402623356;dub;I got actual computers 716100;1402623387;asciilifeform;we did get an actual computer - 'iskra' - shortly before bailing 716101;1402623390;benkay;i never didn't have dsl 716102;1402623398;benkay;now guess how old i am 716103;1402623407;asciilifeform;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/I1030_11.jpg/300px-I1030_11.jpg 716104;1402623412;dub;the one console I recall using was the old pong game that plugged into a tv 716105;1402623442;asciilifeform;i still remember the shock of encountering widgets that resembled actual comp but weren't programmable. 716106;1402623444;asciilifeform;(tv consoles) 716107;1402623449;asciilifeform;said 'wtf' 716108;1402623452;dub;but around age 6 I had my book (yes book) of games and c64 716109;1402623463;asciilifeform;dub: had same, after coming to usa 716110;1402623463;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell mike_c http://pastebin.com/qha386AV 716111;1402623463;assbot;How To Shave Altcoin! Er, Save Altcoin! - Pastebin.com 716112;1402623463;gribble;The operation succeeded. 716113;1402623483;dub;no storage so you input the game in basic and had to do it again when your mom made you turn it off 716114;1402623518;mircea_popescu; btw i never had the 'wolf & eggs.' too l33t. borrowed from kid next door. << that kicked ass 716115;1402623671;asciilifeform;chain.com << 'i dontwanna use the blockchain, mitm me please' 716116;1402623689;kakobrekla;It is true that Bitcoin outperformed Nasty Mining. Bitcoin had an amazing 2 years of growth and was exposed to billions of people. However, funds invested in Nasty Mining were spent in USD on items that are valued in USD. In fact, pretty much everything is valued in USD (or your local fiat currency), which is why BTC is valued at the conversion rate at the time of transfer to any real organization. It only makes sense to value Nasty Mi 716117;1402623689;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 716118;1402623689;kakobrekla;USD when comparing it over time. The performance we've had is astounding, and just because it lags behind the performance of Bitcoin should not take away from that. We've still managed to outperform more than 99% of the other things you could have spent your BTC on. Silver for example was $28.50 on our IPO date and is $19.50 now, yet I don't see you trolling silver dealers on here. 716119;1402623827;ThickAsThieves;lol 716120;1402623838;mircea_popescu; but around age 6 I had my book (yes book) of games and c64 << i had one of those too 716121;1402623867;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 716122;1402623870;mircea_popescu;" The performance we've had is astounding, and just because it lags behind the performance of Bitcoin should not take away from that." 716123;1402623874;mircea_popescu;epic. 716124;1402623897;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/qha386AV << nice bots mod6 716125;1402623897;assbot;How To Shave Altcoin! Er, Save Altcoin! - Pastebin.com 716126;1402623963;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot unbalanced 716127;1402623964;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user unbalanced: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=unbalanced | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=unbalanced | Rated since: never 716128;1402623974;mircea_popescu;;;rate unbalanced 1 ATC fanboi. 716129;1402623975;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 716130;1402623978;mircea_popescu;!up unbalanced 716131;1402623983;mircea_popescu;srsly get in the wot will you. 716132;1402624012;unbalanced;Thanks, it's on my to do list. 716133;1402624020;mthreat;mircea_popescu: this c64 talk reminds me, the owner of krakow bar in san telmo is an oldschool c64 hacker from poland. http://www.krakow-cafe.com.ar/ 716134;1402624021;assbot;Bares San Telmo | Krakow Bares en San Telmo | Bares Buenos Aires 716135;1402624025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00083261 = 17.3599 BTC [+] {2} 716136;1402624050;mircea_popescu;prolly should have a drink with him then 716137;1402624070;mircea_popescu;course mine wasn't an actual c64, butmoar like a clone48 716138;1402624073;unbalanced;Got partway done months ago in one of my VMs, I'll have to dig it up. BingoBoingo's tutorial was a good help. 716139;1402624091;mthreat;actually i think he said c32, which i didn't even know existed 716140;1402624115;mthreat;he also corrected me when I said i'd seen a pic of him with an ak-47. apparently it wasn't an ak 716141;1402624142;asciilifeform;c32 << prob. vic-20 716142;1402624156;unbalanced;No Commodore32 but maybe the Amiga CD32: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_CD32 716143;1402624156;assbot;Amiga CD32 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 716144;1402624168;mircea_popescu;amiga ya 716145;1402624182;asciilifeform;amiga << nothing like c64. almost a real computer. 716146;1402624185;unbalanced;Vic-20, those were the days. 716147;1402624187;justusranvier;https://twitter.com/JustusRanvier/status/477251054250512384 716148;1402624188;assbot;Maidsafe and Mastercoin: The first crypto-coin Kickstarter was a wildly successful $7 million disaster. http://t.co/YllunlEBOZ 716149;1402624188;asciilifeform;sank the company, too 716150;1402624193;mircea_popescu;so im fishin' in rift an' shootin' da breeze in -assets. what better lyf is there. 716151;1402624196;asciilifeform;(not compatible with massive c64 cult install base) 716152;1402624216;diametric;so SR coins up for auction 716153;1402624223;diametric;soon anyway 716154;1402624241;diametric;should read scrollback, i'm assuming it was the topic for a while 716155;1402624242;mthreat;mircea_popescu: anyway his name is tomas, if you go by there 716156;1402624253;asciilifeform;diametric: yes 716157;1402624261;mircea_popescu;justusranvier so much lulz in there. 716158;1402624385;justusranvier;It doesn't look so good for the appcoin pumpers 716159;1402624469;mircea_popescu;for them, no. 716160;1402624481;mircea_popescu;We took advice from the US lawyers via BitAngels and also local lawyers in Scotland, 716161;1402624482;mircea_popescu;ajajaja 716162;1402624488;mircea_popescu;this is like textbook dumb. 716163;1402624497;asciilifeform;re: c64, obligatory jack tramiel: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/technology/jack-tramiel-a-pioneer-in-computers-dies-at-83.html 716164;1402624501;assbot;Jack Tramiel, a Pioneer in Computers, Dies at 83 - NYTimes.com 716165;1402624532;mircea_popescu;All issuers selling securities to the public must comply with the registration provisions of the securities laws, including issuers who seek to raise funds using Bitcoin, said Andrew J. Ceresney, the SECs enforcement director in a press release. We will continue to focus on enforcing our rules and regulations as they apply to digital currencies. 716166;1402624543;mircea_popescu;lawl. they do not apply, they never will apply. 716167;1402624643;mircea_popescu;Jacob Farber of Perkins Coie who advises Bit Angels wrote, It seems pretty clear that there was no intentional market manipulation. The question is whether there was an appearance of market manipulation, or an unintended market manipulation. <<< it's pretty obvious that there was quite intentional, and quite fraudulent, market manipulation. 716168;1402624664;mircea_popescu;cause when you go "let's do this thing that'll make our worthless turd look valuable" that's what you're doing. 716169;1402624773;mircea_popescu;anyway, pretty good reporting from Kashmir Hill 716170;1402624922;justusranvier;DId you read the pastebin? 716171;1402625192;mircea_popescu;justusranvier the unbalanced one ? yua 716172;1402625294;justusranvier;To my untrained eye, it looks like certain people got a unhappy with DJohnston using their reputations without their consent, so they kicked him out of BitAngles into his own sandbox. 716173;1402625301;mircea_popescu;Many knowledgeable observers called the whole thing a success. Irvines team wound up with three million in BTC after all. Ryan Galt, an investor who blogs as Two-Bit Idiot, noted the pump-and-dump that happened but said the number one takeaway was to make sure to get in early when a hot new coin-related startup announces a crowdsale. You better be ready to buy the second it goes live, he wrote. 716174;1402625303;mircea_popescu;heh. 716175;1402625320;justusranvier;What's sad is the number of Bitcoin startups that were taking advice from him. 716176;1402625327;mircea_popescu;"startups" 716177;1402625350;mircea_popescu;a collection of three idiots does not become a startup through their declaration to that effect, in my view. 716178;1402625367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.070706 = 1.2727 BTC [+] 716179;1402625382;justusranvier;Anyway, a lot of businesses trying to get involved in Bitcoin got some bad advice from him. Some of them did ask around for second opinions though, and avoided that particular pitfall anyway. 716180;1402625389;mircea_popescu;byut anyway, the circus is the circus. this is why we call it the circus, this is why we despise it, this is what it does. 716181;1402625414;mircea_popescu;"vcs", "entrepreneurs", "consulting", "conferences", "startups", "deals", "investing" and so on and so forth till you're bored. 716182;1402625437;mircea_popescu;that's good then. 716183;1402625447;unbalanced;I was at the Bitcoin Hackathon in Toronto a couple of months back, and DJ was a judge. 716184;1402625456;mircea_popescu;people are incredibly arrogant, so a bunch of them getting hurt badly is good news. 716185;1402625497;unbalanced;I didn't win a top place... my stuff wasn't good enough but more importantly it seemed, not "decentralized" enough. 716186;1402625511;mircea_popescu;lol k 716187;1402625516;unbalanced;It took place right inside Ethereum HQ 716188;1402625517;mircea_popescu;listen, 716189;1402625553;unbalanced;By the time I left that conference I thought Bitcoin was a cult of decentralization. Decentralize all the things! 716190;1402625562;mircea_popescu;on one hand it's completely irrelevant who "judges" these things, just like the people running around begging perelman to take their "award" so they may say "o we gave perelman an award, please think we matter" are irrelevant to math 716191;1402625575;ThickAsThieves;the cult takes new forms over time 716192;1402625600;unbalanced;Agreed. I walked away from several folks when I began to get the cray-cray vibe. 716193;1402625602;justusranvier;I tried: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/03/19/decentralized-applications-its-time-for-an-intervention/ 716194;1402625603;assbot;Decentralized Applications: It's Time for an Intervention | Bitcoinism 716195;1402625613;mircea_popescu;on the other hand, what difference does it make anyway ? not like any human being at an accessible pay grade can judge your thing anyway. 716196;1402625659;unbalanced;I usually *give off* the cray-cray vibe when it comes to Bitcoin. Didn't expect people could outdo me for tech optimism. 716197;1402625683;mircea_popescu;just go to the hackathon as you go to the bar, not like you go to school. it's a social function. 716198;1402625719;mircea_popescu;i don't believe this crap is aptly described as optimism. 716199;1402625733;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00083208 = 26.0441 BTC [-] {3} 716200;1402625747;mircea_popescu;this is to the conference circuit roughly what porn is to legitimate acting : the place failures go to die. 716201;1402625780;mircea_popescu;if the people involved were smarter, they'd be selling detergent and used cars. 716202;1402625808;mircea_popescu;!up unbalanced 716203;1402625813;mircea_popescu;srsly get with that wot 716204;1402625902;mircea_popescu;justusranvier not bad. 716205;1402625927;unbalanced;Thanks I was turning blue. justusranvier, nicely done 716206;1402625935;BingoBoingo;unbalanced: If you did the GPG guide that's the hard part... registering with gribble doesn't hurt at all 716207;1402625973;unbalanced;Not sure if i can get to that VM from here. I'll take a stab. 716208;1402626143;mircea_popescu;why's your gpg in a vm anyway 716209;1402626147;unbalanced;But before I do, I agree MP, I didn't take not winning the hackathon badly, I only said my thing wasn't "good enough" because a) it wasn't all done in time and b) my math was less than accurate. Empirically not good enough for anyone to use. 716210;1402626167;mircea_popescu;well that's kinda how these thons work. not enough time really. 716211;1402626221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25549 @ 0.00083163 = 21.2473 BTC [-] 716212;1402626223;mircea_popescu;justusranvier "Using the global public ledger that allows for multilateral decision making means that retaining financial privacy is, to put it lightly, problematic. Its possible to achieve, but doing so is a difficult and delicate process where mistakes are easy to make and also permanent." i don't understand this part, at all. 716213;1402626223;unbalanced;I don't have a lot of hardware is why... at the time I was on a Windows machine using a Linux VM. Now I'm pure. Linux. 716214;1402626236;mircea_popescu;how is blockchain any less anon than cash ? 716215;1402626246;mircea_popescu;unbalanced oic 716216;1402626253;justusranvier;Because there are always sidechannels 716217;1402626260;justusranvier;And badly written clients 716218;1402626262;unbalanced;Carelessness + pattern recognition etc. 716219;1402626263;mircea_popescu;justusranvier so are there for cash. 716220;1402626275;mircea_popescu;talkative prostitutes and bills of sale 716221;1402626283;justusranvier;Cash doesn't have an eternal, publicly searchable ledger 716222;1402626290;mircea_popescu;according to whom ? 716223;1402626333;justusranvier;Is there a USDchain.info where anyone can view every transaction that ever occurred with a given bill? 716224;1402626340;mircea_popescu;all the cash that exists exists. by this it can be counted 716225;1402626341;mircea_popescu;there you go. 716226;1402626351;mircea_popescu;anyone capable of busting in can count your cash as well as you can 716227;1402626364;mircea_popescu;but you're not proposing the correct equivalence 716228;1402626367;justusranvier;Sure, but that can't traced its history 716229;1402626375;mircea_popescu;neither can bitcoin's. 716230;1402626395;justusranvier;In many cases, you can. 716231;1402626400;mircea_popescu;in many cases you can for cash too 716232;1402626404;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15151 @ 0.00082999 = 12.5752 BTC [-] 716233;1402626411;mircea_popescu;like, if you leave a fingerprint on a bill 716234;1402626427;mircea_popescu;or if you get caught with series-fixed bills after a bank robbery 716235;1402626429;mircea_popescu;or w/e 716236;1402626505;justusranvier;All of those approaches you mention for cash only operate on a subset of the "address space". Graph analysis of the blockchain can look at the entire data set, forever. 716237;1402626525;justusranvier;People skilled in that art can do a lot more, given the improved access to information 716238;1402626554;mircea_popescu;i doubt this is true. 716239;1402626567;mircea_popescu;because correspondingly, you are forced by cash to physical interaction 716240;1402626570;justusranvier;This isn't even a particularly good tool, and it breakes blockchain.info mixing: http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/ 716241;1402626572;assbot;CoinJoin Sudoku | Weaknesses in SharedCoin, and CoinJoin research. 716242;1402626577;mircea_popescu;there's little way to avoid it. not so with bitcoin 716243;1402626591;mircea_popescu;blockchain.info mixing is a joke. break bitbet mixing. 716244;1402626605;justusranvier;I'll suggest that 716245;1402626642;mircea_popescu;so you know, getting caught with cash in your possesion can be a forced mistake 716246;1402626651;mircea_popescu;getting caught with bitcoin can never be a forced mistake 716247;1402626856;mircea_popescu;anyway, the fact that bitcoin is not actually traceable, and all the sophistry of taint can at most produce persuasion is one of the largest points of pressure applied by bitcoin to human society. it may result in the "reasonable doubt" standard being taken out. 716248;1402626921;mircea_popescu;much in the way the internet has forced the brits into their first secret "trial", something they've not had in about 11 centuries. 716249;1402626953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00083321 = 37.6611 BTC [+] 716250;1402627085;justusranvier;I think we will get privacy on the blockchain eventually. 716251;1402627118;justusranvier;Not until Bitcoin Core is dethroned as the monolopy full node implementation though 716252;1402627135;mircea_popescu;this boggles. what do you mean eventually ? 716253;1402627139;mircea_popescu;i have it right nwo. it's there. 716254;1402627174;mircea_popescu;anbd what throne lol. a bunch of redditards with ten bitcoin between them that keep downloading the power ranger code ? 716255;1402627179;justusranvier;It's there for people who are extremely careful and make no mistakes. 716256;1402627214;justusranvier;There are better ways of achieving privacy that aren't quite so fragile 716257;1402627248;mircea_popescu;so basically the idea is to make it more accessible ? 716258;1402627258;justusranvier;Basically 716259;1402627264;mircea_popescu;cause otherwise this discussion is exactlylike email privacy. i have all the email privacy i could want, because gpg 716260;1402627275;mircea_popescu;you're gonna tell me there's no privacy in email either ? 716261;1402627340;justusranvier;All the email privacy you could want? You must not want to have privacy regarding the fact that you're sending messages, nor the recipients of those messages. 716262;1402627361;justusranvier;Or subject lines 716263;1402627381;mircea_popescu;lol because why ? 716264;1402627405;mircea_popescu;an email can come from any arbitrary address you wish it to. 716265;1402627423;mircea_popescu;it can be read in transit by any party that wishes 716266;1402627563;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [+] 716267;1402627947;thestringpuller;!up chax 716268;1402627972;thestringpuller;~_~ 716269;1402627975;asciilifeform;!up unbalanced 716270;1402628173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1000 @ 0.00030166 = 0.3017 BTC [+] 716271;1402628203;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i have it right nwo. it's there << rewrote btcd? 716272;1402628234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0707 = 0.1414 BTC [-] 716273;1402628239;asciilifeform;or - privacy. aha 716274;1402628293;mircea_popescu;privacee 716275;1402628295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.03 = 0.18 BTC [+] 716276;1402628315;mircea_popescu;speaking of which, i wonder what % of 4chan pics are steganographically loaded 716277;1402628324;asciilifeform;for dumb stego, easy to test. 716278;1402628324;mircea_popescu;as a sort of pastebin email thing 716279;1402628331;asciilifeform;one fellow came up with... 1 in 5 716280;1402628331;unbalanced;Thanks ascii. 716281;1402628340;mircea_popescu;anyone bored enough to run a little experiment ? 716282;1402628343;unbalanced;I remember now where I locked up months ago with GPG. 716283;1402628345;asciilifeform;(dumb stego --> generally low-order colour bits) 716284;1402628352;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yup 716285;1402628376;*;asciilifeform once spent most of a year experimenting with image stego 716286;1402628438;asciilifeform;stego works best as 'part of a balanced diet' with proper crypto 716287;1402628444;unbalanced;I set it all up, using Seahorse... but I have to put a public key "out there" so people could encrypt messages to me. 716288;1402628457;mircea_popescu;happy friday the 13th btw 716289;1402628478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1797 @ 0.00006225 = 0.1119 BTC [-] {2} 716290;1402628484;unbalanced;So I tried the "Sync and Publish Keys..." link on the "Remote" menu in Seahorse. And the warning message pops up: 716291;1402628532;unbalanced;"This will publish the keys in your key ring so they're available for others to use. You'll also get any changes others have made since you received their keys. 1 key is selected for synchronizing" 716292;1402628566;unbalanced;It does NOT say "This will publish the PUBLIC keys in your key ring..." so I thought, "F that!" 716293;1402628642;unbalanced;Am I to assume that's what this key management app means in that message? That only my PUBLIC key will be sent out? 716294;1402628661;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24195 @ 0.00083179 = 20.1252 BTC [-] {2} 716295;1402628663;unbalanced;I don't like to assume anything when it comes to crypto. 716296;1402628783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23705 @ 0.00082781 = 19.6232 BTC [-] 716297;1402629035;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.outguess.org/detection.php << basic example 716298;1402629036;assbot;OutGuess - Steganography Detection 716299;1402629175;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.06199681 BTC. Current weight: 17,183. 716300;1402629177;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold" http://bitbet.us/bet/758/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.60773929 BTC. Current weight: 7,264. 716301;1402629210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8640 @ 0.00083207 = 7.1891 BTC [+] 716302;1402629365;unbalanced;Got tips from teward in pm, thanks! Trying it now. 716303;1402629415;mircea_popescu;unbalanced i dunnowhat it does, never used it 716304;1402629420;mircea_popescu;you got no cli ? 716305;1402629433;mircea_popescu;!up teward 716306;1402629454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22457 @ 0.00082657 = 18.5623 BTC [-] {3} 716307;1402629454;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust teward 716308;1402629455;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user teward: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=teward | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=teward | Rated since: Thu Jan 16 14:58:46 2014 716309;1402629462;mircea_popescu;hm, who're you teward ? 716310;1402629466;unbalanced;Followed BB's tutorial for noobs about 4mo ago and got halted at this point 716311;1402629487;teward;mircea_popescu: OTC operator, plus emergency op in #bitcoin, i started lurking here after seeing a +1 rating on someone for the purposes of trust tree to the bot 716312;1402629496;mircea_popescu;mkay. 716313;1402629497;teward;(OTC operator as in +o moderator in -otc) 716314;1402629502;mircea_popescu;;;rate teward New blood. 716315;1402629502;gribble;Error: 'New' is not a valid integer. 716316;1402629505;mircea_popescu;;;rate teward 1 New blood. 716317;1402629507;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user teward has been recorded. 716318;1402629510;unbalanced;Only using Seahorse because of user-friendliness for now. Though I might figure out git next and submit a patch to their pop-up message. 716319;1402629518;mircea_popescu;you can self voice now, pm assbot !up once you're id'd with gribble 716320;1402629530;teward;this +v can last 2 minutes, but Seahorse is the GUI for user-friendliness of GnuPG/PGP in Linux. :) 716321;1402629547;teward;i use it 100% of the time for pgp keyring management, and given I have 20 or so keys, well... :P 716322;1402629547;asciilifeform;cli gpg is friendly 716323;1402629561;asciilifeform;why the insistence on the rodent, i always wonder 716324;1402629562;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform it can get gnarly if you manage a lot of keys 716325;1402629573;justusranvier;KGpg 716326;1402629599;teward;agreed, asciilifeform, to be honest, CLI is my native environment, I prefer managing my keys via CLI. I just use Seahorse for generating, the GUI has a tiny bit more entropy, and I generate only 4096-strength keys :) 716327;1402629628;asciilifeform;GUI has a tiny bit more entropy << ??? 716328;1402629633;mircea_popescu;anyone remember usagi's long key generating business ? 716329;1402629655;asciilifeform;i hear they generate beautiful keys at ft meade 716330;1402629657;mircea_popescu;where he had found a tutorial on the net to make arbitrary length keys and was offering this as a sort of forum-level braindamaged saas ? 716331;1402629670;mircea_popescu;he was going to make and export a privkey for you 716332;1402629679;teward;asciilifeform: might be because something else is installed alongside seahorse for entropy generation, I dunno. CLI only took an hour for 4096-bit keys. 716333;1402629680;asciilifeform;(they should offer a pay service! i bet chumps would flood in) 716334;1402629716;asciilifeform;'insist on NSA quality!' 716335;1402629731;mircea_popescu;"Given all these downsides, it should be apparent that decentralization isnt something to aspire to lightly. In fact, it may be better to say that decentralization as a design technique is best reserved as a last resort, only to be used when there are no other suitable alternatives." 716336;1402629737;mircea_popescu;justusranvier groks it. 716337;1402629749;mircea_popescu;that's exactly what it fucking is. 716338;1402629759;asciilifeform;random.gov 716339;1402629789;mircea_popescu;".I want to see a future digital economy in which nobody is excluded from participation." "No third party should have the ability to interfere in the voluntary dealings of other people." << do you see these as logically equivalent ? 716340;1402629830;asciilifeform;!up unbalanced 716341;1402629866;justusranvier;Not equivalent. The latter is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for the former. 716342;1402629896;mircea_popescu;i don't see why anything more is needed or desirable than the latter. 716343;1402629930;asciilifeform;random.gov, a kindler, gentler key escrow. sorta like lotteries as a more 'humane' tax on the arithmetically-challenged 716344;1402629931;justusranvier;If no third party can interfere with the voluntary dealings of other people, then anyone who desires to participate can do so, providing only that they can find a trading partner willing to deal with them. 716345;1402629944;mircea_popescu;justusranvier well, more like, you know, rakim. 716346;1402629947;justusranvier;And that's a fine condition for particupation 716347;1402629949;mircea_popescu;actually, do you know rakim ? 716348;1402629953;justusranvier;No 716349;1402629983;mircea_popescu;http://f.kulfoto.com/pic/0001/0007/is7P56309.jpg 716350;1402630003;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12006 @ 0.00082542 = 9.91 BTC [-] 716351;1402630017;thestringpuller;I know Rakim! 716352;1402630023;justusranvier;I remember that now 716353;1402630026;thestringpuller;I meet him a lot. 716354;1402630028;mircea_popescu;i thought rakim was like the goatse guy 716355;1402630035;asciilifeform;seems like we've all met him 716356;1402630035;mircea_popescu;sorta universal meme 716357;1402630071;justusranvier;I believe I convered that possibility when I said "providing only that they can find a trading partner willing to deal with them." 716358;1402630072;mircea_popescu;anyway. it seems to me that adding anything to your latter turns the former into the latter's logical counter. 716359;1402630074;thestringpuller;You see Rakim wants what they call nigga technology. 716360;1402630078;thestringpuller;;;ud nigga technology 716361;1402630079;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigga+technology | Useless, pointless technology invented for the apparent purpose of prolonging a simple task beyond the length of time it should take. Nigga Technology is ... 716362;1402630097;thestringpuller;Nigga technology only does one thing. 716363;1402630099;thestringpuller;Let dumb niggas 716364;1402630102;thestringpuller;talk about dumb nigga shit 716365;1402630106;thestringpuller;to other dumb niggas. 716366;1402630120;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller eh come on 716367;1402630145;asciilifeform;;;google naggum by mouse instead of by lever 716368;1402630146;gribble;Loper OS » The Wisdom of Erik Naggum: ; Loper OS » Engelbart's Violin: ; Worse is Better - Erik Naggum: 716369;1402630150;asciilifeform;damn. 716370;1402630272;mircea_popescu;If cheating can be easily detected and reversed, then maybe its no longer essential to prevent it at all costs and you can build it with a more palatable set of trade offs. << in fact, there's a reason business has since forever run on "eventually correct" bookkeeping 716371;1402630344;mircea_popescu;anyway, great blog, kinda shitty platform. mebbe pankkake adds it to teh irker 716372;1402630406;unbalanced;BingoBoingo, check yer email, I may or may not have sent you a secret message. 716373;1402630423;mircea_popescu;"Ever since the venture capital scene started talking about Bitcoin back in 2013, one of the most frequently cited comments from them is that Bitcoin is interesting for the technology, not the currency. In fact, this mantra has become so common that it almost sounds scripted." << if you're curious as to the reason, it has to do with them not wanting to go under the yoke that's been awaiting patiently and quite unav 716374;1402630423;mircea_popescu;oidably since... 2012. 716375;1402630439;unbalanced;So secret I can't even remember what it may or may not have said, if it even exists. 716376;1402630470;mircea_popescu;actually nm, you get it exactly one paragraph down. 716377;1402630493;unbalanced;Next up, gribble, reading on. 716378;1402630586;BingoBoingo;unbalanced: Recieved 716379;1402630601;unbalanced;Clarification, Bingo's posts led me to Geany for message signing, not to Seahorse. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/ 716380;1402630601;assbot;Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo Blog 716381;1402630613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 340 @ 0.0003016 = 0.1025 BTC [+] {2} 716382;1402630620;unbalanced;Or if one of these sent me to Seahorse months ago I don't see it now. 716383;1402630632;mircea_popescu;http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/ << doesn't this sound like i could have written it ? 716384;1402630633;assbot;Bitcoin Is Sedition | Bitcoinism 716385;1402630653;mircea_popescu;course if i had it'd not have linked all the darkcoin and "insurection" would have lead to something about the serenissima, but anyway 716386;1402630680;unbalanced;It's not clear to me exactly WTF I sync'd with in Seahorse or where I put my public key. Do you see it somewhere Bingo to send a return message I could try to read? 716387;1402630689;unbalanced;Oh you're way ahead of me. 716388;1402630700;unbalanced;That is, you may or may not be. Way ahead of me. 716389;1402630827;unbalanced;This just in, people... PKI works. That is all. 716390;1402630846;asciilifeform;lol 716391;1402630863;BingoBoingo;unbalanced: Your pubkey was on sks-keyservers 716392;1402630910;unbalanced;Where else do the cool kids hang out? 716393;1402630914;BingoBoingo;The reason I didn't recommend Seahorse is it is a pain. Geany has a spell checker at least. 716394;1402630929;BingoBoingo;unbalanced: Well, there's a bunch of other keyservers as well. 716395;1402630966;unbalanced;Right, this is all just text, it's just potentially a ton of really-hard-to-read text if you get it mixed up. 716396;1402630980;unbalanced;Like if you have 20 keys. 716397;1402631210;[]bot;Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/938/ 716398;1402631346;[]bot;Bet created: "World Cup 2014: English to net more than 6 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/939/ 716399;1402631710;mircea_popescu;;;ident unbalanced 716400;1402631710;gribble;Nick 'unbalanced', with hostmask 'unbalanced!~unbalance@70.33.227.12', is not identified. 716401;1402631713;mircea_popescu;!up unbalanced 716402;1402632138;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38500 @ 0.00083458 = 32.1313 BTC [+] {3} 716403;1402632141;unbalanced;;;ident unbalanced 716404;1402632142;gribble;Nick 'unbalanced', with hostmask 'unbalanced!~unbalance@70.33.227.12', is identified as user 'unbalanced', with GPG key id 123147044A6CB0A8, key fingerprint 12549201BD884C99BE652155123147044A6CB0A8, and bitcoin address None 716405;1402632199;benkay;;;later tell chax sorry i missed you 716406;1402632200;gribble;The operation succeeded. 716407;1402632201;mircea_popescu;;;rate unbalanced 1 ATC fanboi 716408;1402632203;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user unbalanced has been recorded. 716409;1402632209;benkay;;;seen chax 716410;1402632209;gribble;I have not seen chax. 716411;1402632210;mircea_popescu;aren't you all spiffy nao 716412;1402632224;unbalanced;Ermahgerd I fell *up* the stairs. Things are gonna change, I can feel it. 716413;1402632231;benkay;if chax comes by razz him a bit for me, he's from chain.com 716414;1402632301;asciilifeform;'We maintain a fleet of self-healing, auto-scaling Bitcoind nodes.' << will they chew your food for you, too ? 716415;1402632357;mircea_popescu;benkay aite 716416;1402632363;decimation;asciilifeform: i just got spammed by IEEE to join this group: http://rebootingcomputing.ieee.org/ 716417;1402632365;assbot;IEEE Rebooting Computing 716418;1402632472;asciilifeform;decimation: mega-lol 716419;1402632475;decimation;also this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-11/with-the-machine-hp-may-have-invented-a-new-kind-of-computer 716420;1402632475;assbot;With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer - Businessweek 716421;1402632497;asciilifeform;re: hp machine: 716422;1402632502;asciilifeform;;;google orthogonal persistence 716423;1402632502;gribble;Persistence (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; CTO : Orthogonal Persistence - TUNES Project: ; Orthogonal Persistence - Java Community Process: 716424;1402632511;decimation;yeah the IEEE thing seems to be more academi-tardation. quantum neuro whatever buzzword 716425;1402632526;decimation;why can't folks simply "re-imagine" the legos they have in front of them? 716426;1402632528;asciilifeform;or, as described on my site, 716427;1402632528;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=231 716428;1402632529;assbot;Loper OS » Third Law of Sane Personal Computing 716429;1402632552;asciilifeform;note that the hardware aspect of this is trivially achievable today 716430;1402632565;asciilifeform;without exotic vlsi versions of magnetic core memory, at that. 716431;1402632581;decimation;indeed a static global address space that is persistant and usable would be a reasonable project 716432;1402632585;asciilifeform;but you gotta ditch post-1970 os crapola to take actual advantage. 716433;1402632607;asciilifeform;that means all of it. 716434;1402632637;unbalanced;While I still have voice... 716435;1402632639;decimation;but ascii, the article says that HP has experience with HP-UX and "non-stop" 716436;1402632639;unbalanced;;;later tell moiety I salute your fine nation and its primary export: http://www.walkersshortbread.com/ 716437;1402632640;assbot;Walkers Shortbread 716438;1402632640;gribble;The operation succeeded. 716439;1402632655;unbalanced;There, this was all worth it. 716440;1402632655;asciilifeform;hp-ux is a bog-standard (archaic) unix 716441;1402632664;asciilifeform;!up unbalanced 716442;1402632689;decimation;pretty much all modern commercial OS's are on the BSD family tree somewhere 716443;1402632696;decimation;it's the original apple 716444;1402632713;mircea_popescu;unbalanced you can self voice now 716445;1402632718;mircea_popescu;pm assbot "!up" 716446;1402632722;asciilifeform;decimation: you must really think about this to understand the implications. a single-address space machine must... actually work. every time - because it can in no sense be rebooted. 716447;1402632739;asciilifeform;(no distinction between disk and memory) 716448;1402632755;decimation;the cache can be refreshed 716449;1402632767;decimation;but presumably the OS comes on an EPROM 716450;1402632775;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i imagine rebooting = pulling memory out 716451;1402632797;asciilifeform;it's not orthogonally persistent if this actually does something useful 716452;1402632820;asciilifeform;(when was the last time you pulled your disk's cache sram out?) 716453;1402632825;mircea_popescu;yes well. marketingis not intended to be that hard semantically. 716454;1402632841;unbalanced;Don't I need 2 hit points? Or just the one? 716455;1402632842;justusranvier;There could be dedicated areas in the memory space that could be hardware wiped, and operations resumed from a hardcoded address. That would be like a reboot. 716456;1402632853;mircea_popescu;even the most accomplished anal insertion artist, who can take ANYTHING would not survive a parachute-less parachute fall 716457;1402632863;asciilifeform;justusranvier: this is what's on your desk now, essentially. 716458;1402632864;mircea_popescu;even if theoretically the planet is part of "everything" 716459;1402632870;asciilifeform;orthogonal persistence is something quite else. 716460;1402632877;decimation;ascii I imagine your dataflow machine as a collection of various calculating state machines, called into existence for various purposes when needed 716461;1402632906;asciilifeform;decimation: think 'emulation of room-sized fpga' and you're 90 percent there. 716462;1402632920;decimation;if you had such a beast, you just peek and poke at its inputs/outputs, it wouldn't really have an address space 716463;1402632934;unbalanced;;;ident mircea_popescu 716464;1402632935;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 716465;1402632993;unbalanced;;;gettrust assbot mircea_popescu 716466;1402632993;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 23 via 23 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 716467;1402633051;asciilifeform;decimation: you don't need an address space as such if anything that might conceivably need to communicate with, e.g., keyboard, has an actual (matrix switched) electrical connection with it. 716468;1402633088;asciilifeform;that is, there is no reason why, say, garbage collector circuit (yes) needs to be able to request a byte from my keyboard buffer. 716469;1402633101;asciilifeform;just as you presently cannot dereference a pointer to your disk's sram cache 716470;1402633104;asciilifeform;and you live with this 716471;1402633142;asciilifeform;the brain-damage of the 'address space' concept is inescapable on a von neumann arch 716472;1402633161;asciilifeform;but if you have the option of doing the last 35 yrs. of hardware again - you can toss it. 716473;1402633190;decimation;in the end, you would only need the "address space" for permanant storage 716474;1402633230;unbalanced;;;rate mircea_popescu 1 Read his stuff, you'll learn something. 716475;1402633231;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. 716476;1402633255;asciilifeform;only the circuit that marshalls state from the independent modules (e.g. keyboard buffer) to magnetic storage needs to know that it's a disk, and comes in 0...N 'LBA' blocks, etc. 716477;1402633311;asciilifeform;if you have the magnetic ram (actually available commercially, no need to wait for hp) you can dispense with the disk. 716478;1402633327;asciilifeform;and build the actual state in fpga out of same. 716479;1402633350;decimation;using magnetic ram for each of the LUT modules? 716480;1402633354;asciilifeform;correct 716481;1402633358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2394 @ 0.00082887 = 1.9843 BTC [-] 716482;1402633363;asciilifeform;not just the LUT config, but the block ram 716483;1402633379;decimation;I'm surprised HP isn't trying to build an fpga with precisely this 716484;1402633381;asciilifeform;ideally you would have some means for linearly pissing state out to a cheap disk 716485;1402633384;asciilifeform;on special occasions 716486;1402633419;unbalanced;;;rate davout 1 Sharp, made bitcoin-central, been around since forever. 716487;1402633420;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded. 716488;1402633430;asciilifeform;decimation: go suggest to boss: 'we need to re-write every line written since 1969.' 716489;1402633443;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform no see, wouldn't that make perfect sense ? 716490;1402633448;mircea_popescu;more work, more jerbs, more grants ? 716491;1402633475;decimation;yeah. like my point about rolls royce just making derpy web pages would be more profitable than jet engines 716492;1402633511;asciilifeform;try apply for usg grant that pads no one's pocket but your own 716493;1402633514;asciilifeform;they like prior art. 716494;1402633532;asciilifeform;papers with thick endnote sections full of favourite nephews. 716495;1402633534;asciilifeform;etc 716496;1402633542;decimation;if you take the king's shekels etc 716497;1402633552;asciilifeform;if you take honest sheckels - gotta sell something 716498;1402633556;asciilifeform;or at least bamboozle vc 716499;1402633573;unbalanced;;;rate jurov 1 Runs coinbr, more... has earned my trust. 716500;1402633575;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded. 716501;1402633582;decimation;which puts you right back into having to make friends and influence people in the bezzle wot 716502;1402633679;decimation;lol from taleb's home page (my best interview) http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/d538a45a-4871-11e2-a1c0-00144feab49a.html#axzz2Z2Yg5a6H 716503;1402633679;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 716504;1402633680;unbalanced;;;rate teward 1 Just met, helped me out, knows his stuff. 716505;1402633681;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user teward has been recorded. 716506;1402633704;unbalanced;Or should I not be rating people I've only communicated with for a couple of hours now? 716507;1402633708;decimation;"What has been your greatest disappointment? 716508;1402633709;decimation;That I am unable to destroy the economics establishment, the press." 716509;1402633709;mircea_popescu;unbalanced ideally not. 716510;1402633724;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30138 @ 0.0008268 = 24.9181 BTC [-] {2} 716511;1402633727;mircea_popescu;decimation see ? shouldn't he be here ? 716512;1402633755;decimation;abosolutely. he might be too integrated in the wall street wot to make new friends here though 716513;1402633756;unbalanced;Mmkay, so teward, I will revoke, nothing personal. Once I figure out how. 716514;1402633822;mircea_popescu;decimation why ?! 716515;1402633828;mircea_popescu;unbalanced ;;unrate 716516;1402633842;unbalanced;;;unrate teward 716517;1402633843;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for teward. 716518;1402633990;decimation;he did an "ama" for the redditards, and he mostly dodged bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1aoi0s/iam_nassim_taleb_author_of_antifragile_ama/c8zb3d8 716519;1402633992;assbot;nntaleb comments on IAm Nassim Taleb, author of Antifragile, AMA 716520;1402634097;unbalanced;decimation: re: "(my best interview)" above -- you write for FT? 716521;1402634126;decimation;heh no the link is entitled "my best interview" on taleb's page 716522;1402634138;decimation;sorry for the unclear language 716523;1402634167;unbalanced;Ah. I was going to ask you why they print on that orange-pink paper. Don't dodge the question! 716524;1402634305;unbalanced;;;rate BingoBoingo 1 Wrote helpful GPG guide. May be my arch-nemesis in the ATC mines though, not sure yet. 716525;1402634306;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. 716526;1402634316;decimation;I'm just a zek, trying to scrape by in the world 716527;1402634373;mircea_popescu;what's a zek ? 716528;1402634417;decimation;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zek_%28inmate%29#Commemoration 716529;1402634417;assbot;White SeaBaltic Canal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 716530;1402634423;unbalanced;;;rate pankkake 1 Funny, helpful, fights BS along with the other Super-Friends. 716531;1402634424;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user pankkake has been recorded. 716532;1402634456;mircea_popescu;oic 716533;1402634588;decimation;solzhenitsyn's "the first circle" resonates with me. in the collectivist us, it is hard to escape this condition 716534;1402634673;mircea_popescu;so why are you there! 716535;1402634678;mike_c;!up unbalanced 716536;1402634721;unbalanced;;;rate Apocalyptic 1 Runs x-bt.com, a solid little exchange, and my money has not disappeared. 716537;1402634722;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Apocalyptic has been recorded. 716538;1402634825;unbalanced;;;rate mike_c 1 Made btcalpha.com, great tools and analysis. 716539;1402634827;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mike_c has been recorded. 716540;1402634829;mike_c;%diff 716541;1402634831;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 486512.85 in 1086 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -31.99 716542;1402634843;mike_c;so unbalanced, what kind of diff change are you shooting for this period? 716543;1402634909;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: thanks for the dump 716544;1402634979;unbalanced;Hey, I took that dump. That's my dump! But thanks for the later-ing ThickAsThieves. 716545;1402634990;mike_c;hehe, then thank you too 716546;1402634991;unbalanced;Heh. You said "dump". Heh. 716547;1402635010;unbalanced;Regret voicing me yet? 716548;1402635021;mike_c;not yet. what kind of diff change are you trying to get this period? 716549;1402635050;unbalanced;I figure that the -25% to -50% range is desirable, as long as it doesn't fall so far someone can't easily spike it up 4x again. 716550;1402635074;unbalanced;But really, "easily" is a relative term so this may be a fool's errand. 716551;1402635087;mike_c;well, it seems like a good thing to try to me. 716552;1402635105;mike_c;;;rate unbalanced 1 ATC tinkerer/supporter 716553;1402635107;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user unbalanced has been recorded. 716554;1402635126;unbalanced;I just want to make it increasingly uneconomical to try to kill the coin. Just an experiment really. 716555;1402635167;mike_c;yeah. i don't know if it's the right thing to do, but I do think it's worth trying. 716556;1402635193;mircea_popescu;unbalanced its perfectly uneconomical to try and kill the coin already. 716557;1402635223;thestringpuller;i kinda wanna mine ATC... 716558;1402635239;thestringpuller;seems fun, like a glimpse in the past... 716559;1402635239;mike_c;i don't worry about the coin dying, but +80%/-80% diff changes are annoying. 716560;1402635251;unbalanced;thestringpuller, you too can live the dream! 716561;1402635287;thestringpuller;call it Crypto Trail 716562;1402635288;mircea_popescu;mike_c they don't seem to be hurting anything tho do they ? 716563;1402635299;mike_c;they do to me. 716564;1402635303;mircea_popescu;unbalanced so in th end how much did you end up paying per atc trying to mine ? 716565;1402635307;mircea_popescu;mike_c how ? 716566;1402635334;mike_c;having a block an hour does not feel optimal. 716567;1402635335;unbalanced;The diff is still unfolding so I don't have a final number yet. I haven't wanted to calculate it or I might stop. 716568;1402635369;mike_c;i ran the numbers, but I won't tell if you don't want to know :) 716569;1402635386;unbalanced;thestringpuller, by "dump" mike_c meant a pastebin link somewhere above, detailing how to use leaserig.net to employ mining rigs on demand. 716570;1402635441;mircea_popescu;mike_c sotell me then :D 716571;1402635445;unbalanced;See also #altcoin... that channel needs new blood. 716572;1402635469;*;unbalanced closes his eyes 716573;1402635518;mike_c;it's like we have discussed before. it affects merchants. it's not as easy to move coin around. this makes little difference for the occasional user, but 1 hour block time on average means sometimes 2+ hours for a block. 716574;1402635569;unbalanced;Rough back-of-the-envelope I'd say 400 satoshis per ATC if I'm lucky. Is that what you got mike_c or am I off by an order of magnitude? 716575;1402635577;mike_c;i got 371 716576;1402635588;unbalanced;Profit! 716577;1402635604;mircea_popescu;mike_c what merchants ?! 716578;1402635615;mike_c;and i ran the numbers before btc diff went up, so it could be better 716579;1402635622;mike_c;cuz the miners should have dropped in price. 716580;1402635650;mike_c;mircea_popescu: x-bt for one. is satoshijack still around? plus possibly some other merchants in development. 716581;1402635698;mircea_popescu;mike_c haven't heard from the satoshijack dude in a long time 716582;1402635701;unbalanced;Yes, I guess a tslb of >1hr only matters if the coin is moving around more than once an hour. Or day. 716583;1402635740;mircea_popescu;i really don't see th econcern. if anything, slow txn are good for a coin, they keep the people in a hurry at bay 716584;1402635751;mircea_popescu;the only folk it really hurts are speculators, of the redditard type 716585;1402635771;mike_c;JD wouldn't be happy if gamblers had to wait 1-2 hours to deposit money 716586;1402635788;mircea_popescu;mike_c would you take the jd gamblers to dinner ? 716587;1402635790;unbalanced;You know MP, I'm testing my ATC wallet. Could you send me all your ATC, and then I'll send it back? 716588;1402635813;mike_c;mircea_popescu: i would not, but i'd gladly take their coin. 716589;1402635822;unbalanced;Purely routine. Just a test. No, no need to read the fine print. Just sign here. 716590;1402635844;unbalanced;See, with ATC you can relive the early days of BTC! 716591;1402635859;mike_c;like i said, i don't think this is any kind of life & death thing. it's smoothing out an annoyance. 716592;1402635864;unbalanced;Pure Disco Gold. 716593;1402635886;mircea_popescu;unbalanced i don't actually have any 716594;1402635924;mircea_popescu;mike_c from what i recall BingoBoingo wasn't too adverse to the jumps 716595;1402635931;unbalanced;See this here is more chat activity than #altcoin gets in a day. Come on over people! 716596;1402635973;unbalanced;I suspect BingoBoingo was the hash raider. Just a theory. No judgment. 716597;1402635981;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69400 @ 0.00082471 = 57.2349 BTC [-] {3} 716598;1402635983;BingoBoingo;unbalanced: I don't have hash... 716599;1402636015;unbalanced;You don't need it with LeaseRig.net, see the pastebin somewhere 8 miles up. 716600;1402636049;asciilifeform;decimation: welcome, fellow зек 716601;1402636064;mike_c;he's not a merchant, he's a market maker. i'm sure the diff changes are great for him. 716602;1402636088;unbalanced;You just knew about the max 4x diff jump, I haven't heard many people who know that. But I suppose it makes sense that everyone here would. 716603;1402636118;asciilifeform;(original etymology: 'зек' was originally 'з/к', sov. bureaucratic abbrev. of 'заключенный' - inmate) 716604;1402636133;asciilifeform;hence 'zek' 716605;1402636148;unbalanced;Where's nubbins? He should be ripping into us for even discussing ATC. Or did he ragequit already? 716606;1402636230;unbalanced;;;later tell nubbins I'm in the WOT! Only took what, 4 months from Inception? PM at will. 716607;1402636230;gribble;The operation succeeded. 716608;1402636242;asciilifeform;lol, turns out pediwikia has this explained 716609;1402636282;thestringpuller;;;google site:blockr.io atc 716610;1402636283;gribble;Altcoin Block Explorer | blockr.io Altcoin Blockchain Market and Price: ; Altcoin block info | blockr.io: ; 1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4 - Blockr.io: 716611;1402636428;unbalanced;;;rate asciilifeform 1 Almost paranoid enough... almost. I learn a ton from him. 716612;1402636429;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user asciilifeform has been recorded. 716613;1402636431;thestringpuller;;;google site:bitoin-otc.com nubbins 716614;1402636431;gribble;No matches found. 716615;1402636549;asciilifeform;!up unbalanced 716616;1402636597;unbalanced;Big day for me, living la vida crypto. Thanks all. Going afk for a while. 716617;1402636652;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00082368 = 6.3012 BTC [-] {2} 716618;1402636922;decimation;asciilifeform my favorite quote from "the first circle": "A familiar figure in many prison research establishments, Professor Chelnov, an old mathematician arrested seventeen years ago and who, when he had to fill in a form, put down his nationality not as 'Russian' but as 'zek', had applied his mind to many inventions, from the direct flow boiler to the jet engine, and had put his heart and soul into several of them." 716619;1402636940;decimation;here's a 'link' http://klassix.net/keith/Kindle%20Backup%202-20-11/documents/First%20Circle,%20The%20-%20Alexander%20Solzhenitsyn.txt 716620;1402637018;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.00082249 = 18.0537 BTC [-] {2} 716621;1402637055;decimation;I'm pretty sure that's a crap translation though 716622;1402637277;decimation;It would be highly satisfying to write "zek" for nationality on an official form 716623;1402637811;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 417 @ 0.00225524 = 0.9404 BTC [+] 716624;1402638177;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00082392 = 18.1262 BTC [+] 716625;1402639031;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02840016 = 0.3408 BTC [-] {2} 716626;1402639032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.04400001 = 0.352 BTC [-] 716627;1402639397;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00082344 = 32.4435 BTC [-] {3} 716628;1402639398;decimation;test 716629;1402639698;benkay;pong 716630;1402640129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2385 BTC [-] 716631;1402640190;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.23500001 = 2.35 BTC [-] 716632;1402640312;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.23500001 = 1.41 BTC [-] 716633;1402640570;fluffypony;are we -m again? 716634;1402640610;punkman;morning fluffy 716635;1402640630;fluffypony;mornings 716636;1402640739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00082047 = 7.0971 BTC [-] 716637;1402640983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.02398476 = 1.2712 BTC [-] {2} 716638;1402641044;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0707 = 0.7777 BTC [-] 716639;1402641045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02391925 = 0.1674 BTC [-] 716640;1402642264;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00082022 = 26.165 BTC [-] {2} 716641;1402642874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16586 @ 0.00081996 = 13.5999 BTC [-] 716642;1402643773;punkman;http://priceonomics.com/what-do-rich-people-do-online/ 716643;1402643773;assbot;What Do Rich People Do Online? 716644;1402644408;fluffypony;punkman: that dude looks like Magnum PI 716645;1402644414;punkman;lol 716646;1402644460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.03 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2} 716647;1402644887;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 703 @ 0.00228499 = 1.6063 BTC [+] 716648;1402645497;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11011 @ 0.00082047 = 9.0342 BTC [+] 716649;1402645741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03 = 0.45 BTC [+] 716650;1402646656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 85 @ 0.03 = 2.55 BTC [+] 716651;1402646718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14039 @ 0.00082388 = 11.5665 BTC [+] 716652;1402646839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07070707 = 0.6364 BTC [+] 716653;1402646918;punkman;why is it so hard to find a decent watermelon 716654;1402646930;punkman;do I have to put them up to my ear and tap them? 716655;1402646947;fluffypony;lol 716656;1402646961;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00081966 = 23.0324 BTC [-] {2} 716657;1402647032;pankkake;why not? there's always weird tricks with food 716658;1402647059;pankkake;I've mastered the chosing of avocados 716659;1402647068;punkman;I have this 1 weird trick 716660;1402647075;punkman;it's called tasting 716661;1402647084;pankkake;but you have to open it 716662;1402647221;punkman;pankkake: yeah that's the problem with watermelons, although the merchants often cut one up for tasting 716663;1402647248;pankkake;but they aren't necessarily the same 716664;1402647273;punkman;quite often the case 716665;1402647278;pankkake;though I've always had the project of crowdsourcing fruit arrival data 716666;1402647371;pankkake;especially for clementines; batches are very different and there are some characteristics I'm looking for 716667;1402647373;punkman;I mostly buy local fruit, but fuckers still can't wait until it's ripe enough 716668;1402647569;jurov;dat log 716669;1402647693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2355 BTC [+] 716670;1402647702;jurov;punkman: they can't make small triangle cut into the melon? here it's usual 716671;1402647754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.23421599 = 4.4501 BTC [-] {4} 716672;1402647801;punkman;jurov, don't they get stuck with a bunch of mediocre watermelons then? or do they sell them to the next sucker 716673;1402647808;fluffypony;altcoins are getting really desperate to find a hook: http://i.imgur.com/BRQ7rKl.png 716674;1402647815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.232 = 1.16 BTC [-] 716675;1402647842;jurov;yes, some ppl don't have a clue to ask 716676;1402647876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.04085759 = 0.8172 BTC [-] {10} 716677;1402647937;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 2169 @ 0.00020095 = 0.4359 BTC [-] {6} 716678;1402647944;jurov;also, it's generally accepted that not everything sells (aspecially at such scammy prices for groceries) 716679;1402647964;punkman;picked my apricot tree couple weeks ago, sick of them by now 716680;1402647973;punkman;bigger yield this year, but less taste 716681;1402647989;jurov;make a jam or w/e 716682;1402648002;jurov;than make pankkakes 716683;1402648033;punkman;I made a couple tarts, still too many left 716684;1402648340;pankkake;http://mikethegoat.wordpress.com/2014/06/12/nsa-custom-hardware-the-fluxbabbitt-implant-and-why-its-important/ => makes me think, hardware keyloggers are a nasty thing 716685;1402648341;assbot;NSA Custom Hardware: The FLUXBABBITT Implant (And Why It’s Important) | Mike the Crypto Goat 716686;1402648362;pankkake;you can plant them and no one will check the cables every day 716687;1402648425;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 428 @ 0.00227837 = 0.9751 BTC [-] 716688;1402648564;punkman;pankkake: wireless all the things! 716689;1402648608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00233 = 0.1957 BTC [-] 716690;1402648650;pankkake;ew :( 716691;1402648791;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.23116666 = 5.548 BTC [-] {4} 716692;1402648926;pankkake;http://www.cato.org/blog/did-fda-just-ban-european-cheese 716693;1402648927;assbot;Did the FDA Just Ban European Cheese? | Cato @ Liberty 716694;1402648969;punkman;I got some stinky camembert right here 716695;1402648974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.07070707 = 1.6263 BTC [+] 716696;1402649197;punkman;pankkake: oh they changed their mind already, http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/11/wood-aged-cheese-is-ok-says-fda 716697;1402649199;assbot;Our Short National Cheese Nightmare Is Over: FDA Backtracks on Wood-Aged Cheese - Hit & Run : Reason.com 716698;1402649347;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7286661#msg7286661 lol 716699;1402649347;assbot;Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] 716700;1402649353;pankkake;that's why it's so useless to try 716701;1402649401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15461 @ 0.00081928 = 12.6669 BTC [-] {2} 716702;1402649492;fluffypony;kakobrekla: did you get banned from Bitcointalk? 716703;1402649736;pankkake;some months ago 716704;1402649755;fluffypony;oh I missed that 716705;1402649783;pankkake;actually he god banned twice! 716706;1402649799;pankkake;got*. one temporary and one definitive I suppose 716707;1402649828;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00082466 = 36.0376 BTC [+] 716708;1402650072;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17755 @ 0.00082402 = 14.6305 BTC [-] {2} 716709;1402651163;fluffypony;new site from The Onion is awesome: http://www.clickhole.com 716710;1402651163;assbot;Home · Clickhole 716711;1402651589;jurov;fluffypony: the keyword for kako was "slanderous soul" 716712;1402651599;fluffypony;heh 716713;1402651626;fluffypony;http://www.clickhole.com/article/elderly-couple-died-two-days-apart-so-why-arent-po-128 716714;1402651627;assbot;This Elderly Couple Died Two Days Apart, So Why Arent The Police Investigating It? · Clickhole 716715;1402651629;fluffypony;lol 716716;1402652878;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19055 @ 0.00082195 = 15.6623 BTC [-] 716717;1402653366;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00082147 = 17.1687 BTC [-] 716718;1402653610;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00082064 = 19.8595 BTC [-] {2} 716719;1402653642;davout;pankkake: "I've mastered the chosing of avocados" <<< make me your apprentice 716720;1402653865;fluffypony;hah hah 716721;1402653879;fluffypony;the unpickable "Forever Lock" got picked 716722;1402653880;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4f1H6mYHOI 716723;1402653880;assbot;"Forever Lock" bumping, picking, picked - YouTube 716724;1402654057;davout;https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=441465.msg7282674#msg7282674 716725;1402654058;assbot;[6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) 716726;1402654075;davout;how would one detect a block witholding attack on a pool ? 716727;1402654110;kakobrekla;yes fluffypony , pankkake has it. maybe it will be trice soon. 716728;1402654278;xmj;fluffypony: i think i'll go suit-hunting now. 716729;1402654281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 124 @ 0.0707 = 8.7668 BTC [-] 716730;1402654302;fluffypony;xmj: ok awesome - also see if there's a place that does tailored shirts as well, need to pick a few up 716731;1402654378;kakobrekla;>>You didn't know anything. 716732;1402654378;kakobrekla;You were giving a lot of credit to Garrett by playing the clown/troll. 716733;1402654378;kakobrekla;You made everything worse. 716734;1402654380;kakobrekla;LMAO 716735;1402654388;kakobrekla;I MADE EVERYTHING WORSE 716736;1402654421;kakobrekla;"Stop making fun of me mom, you made everything worse!!!!11" 716737;1402654435;kakobrekla;runs to his room to cry. 716738;1402654543;fluffypony;lol 716739;1402654544;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4vnVsx2wc 716740;1402654544;assbot;CM in - YouTube 716741;1402654559;fluffypony;great advertising, I feel like noodles now 716742;1402654589;pankkake;somewhat related http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3386 716743;1402654589;assbot;Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal 716744;1402654676;kakobrekla;wtf 716745;1402654681;kakobrekla;what a commercial. 716746;1402654721;kakobrekla;look samurai, samurai, ball, samurai, some gay dancers, samurai, oh yeah noodles. 716747;1402654803;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PHENQiJFzI 716748;1402654804;assbot;Bukkake Milk - YouTube 716749;1402654832;fluffypony;kakobrekla: (c) Usagi Design Studio, 2014 716750;1402654875;kakobrekla;what the fuzck what year is this from pankkake 716751;1402654889;pankkake;I only know it's old 716752;1402655074;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58947 @ 0.00081841 = 48.2428 BTC [-] {2} 716753;1402655196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [-] 716754;1402655338;punkman;finally, what I've been waiting for http://design.canonical.com/2014/03/making-ubuntu-com-responsive/ 716755;1402655338;assbot;Making ubuntu.com responsive: intro (1) | Ubuntu Design Blog 716756;1402655867;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00082195 = 6.9044 BTC [+] 716757;1402655867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [+] 716758;1402655873;kakobrekla;so ghash io is now at 50% network 716759;1402655891;kakobrekla;noone gives fucks. 716760;1402656156;fluffypony;https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8220224768/hA578A447/ 716761;1402656157;fluffypony;"don't worry guys, I will use my rock to stop this" 716762;1402656416;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.00082195 = 2.1247 BTC [+] 716763;1402656515;fluffypony;yay my Ziks arrived 716764;1402656782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31546 @ 0.00082022 = 25.8747 BTC [-] {2} 716765;1402658035;fluffypony;so Tesla is opening their patent portfolio up, and won't sue rival firms who use the patented tech "in good faith" 716766;1402658041;fluffypony;that's a change 716767;1402658129;fluffypony;also it means Tesla-compatible charging points can be put up by tons of other manufacturers to support "their" cars, as everyone can use the same charging tech 716768;1402658232;nubbins`;ooo 716769;1402658351;nubbins`;ugh, awoken before 9am by skids next door shouting SATURDAY NIGHT and throwing furniture 716770;1402658362;fluffypony;throwing furniture? 716771;1402658363;nubbins`;it's friday, ya fuckin dickheads 716772;1402658378;nubbins`;yeah 716773;1402658384;nubbins`;not an unusual occurrence 716774;1402658506;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/scott-jones-says-he-forgives-his-attacker-shane-edward-matheson-1.2673052 716775;1402658508;assbot;Scott Jones says he forgives his attacker, Shane Edward Matheson - Nova Scotia - CBC News 716776;1402658816;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/ 716777;1402658816;assbot;Why I just sold 50% of my bitcoins: GHash.IO : Bitcoin 716778;1402658829;fluffypony;Peter Todd was the cause of yesterday's dump? 716779;1402658849;pankkake;fluffypony: it's not that novel though, plenty of companies do it. they patent things as a defensive measure 716780;1402658895;fluffypony;pankkake: sure, but the automative industry has a long-standing history of patent-trolling 716781;1402658900;fluffypony;http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2013/07/30/the-father-of-all-patent-trolls/ 716782;1402658901;assbot;The Father Of All Patent Trolls - Forbes 716783;1402658901;pankkake;1) braindead 2) braindead 3) BRAINDEAD 716784;1402658955;pankkake;who is this petertodd? 716785;1402659002;nubbins`;nevermind that 716786;1402659006;nubbins`;look at these posters i made 716787;1402659007;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/5Fakoal 716788;1402659007;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 716789;1402659012;fluffypony;pankkake: Bitcoin dev 716790;1402659018;nubbins`;silver and blue ink on red paper 716791;1402659027;pankkake;I don't think he understands bitcoin 716792;1402659030;nubbins`;the blue is transparent so it looks like two different colors :( 716793;1402659040;pankkake;are you sure he's not an altcoin dev? 716794;1402659076;fluffypony;pankkake: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors - number 12 on the list 716795;1402659077;assbot;Contributors to bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub 716796;1402659163;pankkake;31 commits of little fixes. by that count, I'm a developer in hundreds of projects 716797;1402659333;pankkake;anyway, this kind of post is why bitcoin can't be worth $1000. still too many retards 716798;1402659663;pankkake;"It will always be cheaper to run a small amount of hashing power than a large amount" wat 716799;1402659671;pankkake;the more I try to read his brain damage… ugh 716800;1402659682;pankkake;;;gpg info petertodd 716801;1402659682;gribble;User 'petertodd', with keyid 7FAB114267E4FA04, fingerprint 37EC7D7B0A217CDB4B4E007E7FAB114267E4FA04, and bitcoin address 16BG6DT2p2SMtKJGGzDARbtvjPFJikzhXQ, registered on Wed Apr 25 03:34:22 2012, last authed on Tue Apr 30 19:55:25 2013. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=petertodd . Currently not authenticated. 716802;1402659798;pankkake;;;rate petertodd -1 does not understand bitcoin yet claims to be a developer http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/ 716803;1402659798;assbot;Why I just sold 50% of my bitcoins: GHash.IO : Bitcoin 716804;1402659799;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user petertodd has been recorded. 716805;1402659832;kakobrekla;yeah and they will grow larger 716806;1402660114;Mats_cd03;lolll 716807;1402660126;Mats_cd03;'get rid of pools' 716808;1402660136;Mats_cd03;'and asics' 716809;1402660182;pankkake;when asics have absolutely nothing to do with it 716810;1402660233;xmj;fluffypony: so i was partially successful 716811;1402660274;fluffypony;yay 716812;1402660803;Mats_cd03;;;rate petertodd -1 writes theses about things he doesn't understand, like networking and bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/ 716813;1402660805;assbot;Why I just sold 50% of my bitcoins: GHash.IO : Bitcoin 716814;1402660805;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 716815;1402660847;nubbins`;omg you're not even authed?! :( 716816;1402660850;nubbins`;!down Mats_cd03 716817;1402660857;nubbins`;;D 716818;1402660869;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.0008208 = 21.2587 BTC [+] 716819;1402661076;Mats_cd03;qq 716820;1402661555;mircea_popescu;!up GGGG 716821;1402661871;kakobrekla;check out the maffs on this dude 716822;1402661873;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg7289554#msg7289554 716823;1402661873;assbot;[NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS 716824;1402661888;kakobrekla;lost 65%, its a longterm win. 716825;1402661897;kakobrekla;unrealized wins. 716826;1402661897;mircea_popescu;unbalanced: Big day for me, living la vida crypto. Thanks all. Going afk for a while. << that was lulzy lol. like kid with new xmas train. 716827;1402661965;mircea_popescu;you did twice as worse << it's twice as bad 716828;1402661974;mircea_popescu;worse is a superlative and for that reason incomparable. 716829;1402661983;kakobrekla;but he did so bad 716830;1402661987;kakobrekla;you cant compare 716831;1402661992;kakobrekla;yet i had to. 716832;1402662013;mircea_popescu;lol that's a point 716833;1402662034;assbot;manamex +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 716834;1402662044;kakobrekla;!up manamex 716835;1402662051;kakobrekla;hi 716836;1402662078;mircea_popescu;wow it reports now ? 716837;1402662085;kakobrekla;it reports now. 716838;1402662106;kakobrekla;only if you are in the wot but not enough THRUST. 716839;1402662115;mircea_popescu;ic 716840;1402662155;mircea_popescu;;;coffee 716841;1402662155;gribble;Error: "coffee" is not a valid command. 716842;1402662159;manamex;thanks 716843;1402662161;mircea_popescu;it does not yet make coffee ? 716844;1402662166;kakobrekla;:( 716845;1402662180;mircea_popescu;halfassed job 716846;1402662206;kakobrekla;the usual. 716847;1402662216;mircea_popescu;"Professor Chelnov, an old mathematician arrested seventeen years ago and who, when he had to fill in a form" << why the fuck'd anyone fill a form already. 716848;1402662228;mircea_popescu;derpy soviets think they're so smart, let them fill all the forms they want. 716849;1402662287;mircea_popescu;punkman: do I have to put them up to my ear and tap them? << if you can't hear the tap without putting it to your ear it's not a good one anyway 716850;1402662323;kakobrekla;so what brings you manamex , you only got a 30 min block might as well use it 716851;1402662332;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: are we -m again? << no ?! 716852;1402662357;kakobrekla;sez +m here 716853;1402662372;mircea_popescu;ya here too 716854;1402662394;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47737 @ 0.0008208 = 39.1825 BTC [+] 716855;1402662621;fluffypony;when decimation said "test" they weren't voiced, or was my client just being weird 716856;1402662648;mircea_popescu;hm 716857;1402662682;mircea_popescu;pankkake: you can plant them and no one will check the cables every day << why not ? 716858;1402662753;fluffypony;yeah all my catchup logs pushed to me this AM have decimation and unbalanced talking but unvoiced 716859;1402662760;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03 = 0.45 BTC [+] 716860;1402662764;fluffypony;probably ZNC being weird 716861;1402662766;fluffypony;!down 716862;1402662778;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you prolly lost state at some point ? 716863;1402662796;mircea_popescu;unbalanced kept getting devoiced and i doubt he's yet figured how to pm assbot 716864;1402662807;fluffypony;yeah state could have been wonky 716865;1402662818;fluffypony;yes definitely out of state: 716866;1402662820;fluffypony;[2014-06-13T06:39:35+0200] what's a zek ? 716867;1402662821;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.04 = 0.44 BTC [+] 716868;1402662824;fluffypony;apparently you weren't voiced for a while 716869;1402662828;fluffypony;:-P 716870;1402662837;mircea_popescu;now that's not possible :D 716871;1402662838;fluffypony;stupid client 716872;1402662882;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.0008214 = 21.1921 BTC [+] {3} 716873;1402662902;mircea_popescu;davout: how would one detect a block witholding attack on a pool ? << which kind ? 716874;1402663027;mircea_popescu;if you mean to try and double spend, it'd be hard for any pool to do. if you mean, the withholding to hurt the pool, it can't really, but extreme bad luck is always suspicious. 716875;1402663071;mircea_popescu;in principle tho the pools are open to this "who's willing to lose most money" attack, they could start doing it to each other (and perhaps the larger ones have done it to ensure their position already - it's disputed) 716876;1402663079;manamex;kakobrekla: I'm new here and looking around, browsing the logs 716877;1402663190;Mats_cd03;zek is a word for an enslaved man in gulag or what have you 716878;1402663363;mircea_popescu;lol the us should ban good cheese. the stuff they call cheese is a disgrace to the name, best just painlessly divorce. 716879;1402663466;nubbins`;!up Vexual 716880;1402663472;nubbins`;Vexual: thanks :D 716881;1402663473;Vexual;hi all 716882;1402663514;nubbins`;fluffypony: shirts shipped. holy shit, it's costly to send mail to .za 716883;1402663522;nubbins`;artifexd: your shirts shipped as well 716884;1402663528;fluffypony;nubbins`: need me to chip in extra to cover? 716885;1402663540;nubbins`;nah, don't worry about it 716886;1402663573;nubbins`;i budget ~$10 per shirt for shipping. usually it ends up being much less. yours came to $57 for 6 shirts :D 716887;1402663583;mircea_popescu;o.O 716888;1402663592;nubbins`;i know, right?! 716889;1402663597;mircea_popescu;dude are womenz in sa mostly nekkid ? 716890;1402663607;Vexual;then the postman thieves em 716891;1402663607;mircea_popescu;if shipping shirts costs more than the shirts it'd seem practical 716892;1402663614;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00225245 = 1.6893 BTC [+] 716893;1402663626;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: wait til he tells you about the tariffs on clothing imports 716894;1402663675;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 54 @ 0.00225245 = 0.1216 BTC [+] 716895;1402663690;mircea_popescu;"1) Eliminate pools. 2) Provide a way for miners to solo-mine with low varience and frequent mining payouts even with only small amounts of hashing power. 3) Get rid of ASICs." mkay todd is off another planet. 716896;1402663741;mircea_popescu;why not get rid of airplanes while at it, they spread germs, are a threat to diversity and make it really easy for assholes like mp (or genius chinese kids) to fly to retarded backwater places (like the us) and just take over 716897;1402663773;fluffypony;nubbins`: holy cowbell 716898;1402663781;fluffypony;is that with CanadaPost? 716899;1402663790;nubbins`;provide a way for cars to fly through the air with minimal time even with only a two-stroke lawnmower engine 716900;1402663804;nubbins`;fluffypony, yep. canada is a notoriously expensive place to mail things from 716901;1402663816;fluffypony;yeah damn, that is pricey 716902;1402663825;nubbins`;europe isn't as bad 716903;1402663831;nubbins`;africa/asia are costly 716904;1402663831;fluffypony;that's what I'd pay to courier a parcel like that to Canada with Aramex 716905;1402663854;nubbins`;well shit, next time send me an empty box and i'll load it up & write RETURN TO SENDER on it ;D 716906;1402663857;mircea_popescu; provide a way for cars to fly through the air with minimal time even with only a two-stroke lawnmower engine << i know right ? i will sell half my gasoline unless this happens. 716907;1402663873;nubbins`;mp lel 716908;1402663874;mircea_popescu;ahahaha that trick might just work lmao 716909;1402663877;nubbins`;half your gas?! 716910;1402663888;mircea_popescu;i have a bucket o gas. 716911;1402663905;nubbins`;i might get out of the gas business altogether 716912;1402663911;nubbins`;until saudi stops its 51% attack 716913;1402663934;Vexual;asics deter 50% attacks, it's expensive 716914;1402663938;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/tpF7jHs 716915;1402663938;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 716916;1402663948;mircea_popescu;"Do I still think Bitcoin will succeed in the long run? Yes, but I'm a lot less sure of it than I used to be." 716917;1402663954;mircea_popescu;all these derps with their tech fixation. 716918;1402663972;nubbins`;the quoted statement contains no information 716919;1402663983;Vexual;gonna take dollars 4 2.5 weeks 716920;1402663987;mircea_popescu;bitcoin will succeed in the long term because i say so. not because todd says or doesn't say so. wtf is this, programmer planet, where programmers matter now ?! 716921;1402664002;nubbins`;if programmers mattered, maybe i'd still be one D; 716922;1402664013;nubbins`;(almost definitely not, but hey) 716923;1402664015;mircea_popescu;nubbins` some redditardation in earlier log, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/ 716924;1402664015;assbot;Why I just sold 50% of my bitcoins: GHash.IO : Bitcoin 716925;1402664015;kakobrekla;now he prits t shirts. 716926;1402664025;nubbins`;kakobrekla, and posters! 716927;1402664030;kakobrekla;and posters. 716928;1402664040;mircea_popescu;better posters than posers amirite 716929;1402664049;nubbins`;funny thing is, the work i do now actually does matter more 716930;1402664053;nubbins`;chew on that 716931;1402664080;kakobrekla;true, i made bitbet from tshirts. 716932;1402664093;kakobrekla;and posters. 716933;1402664105;mircea_popescu;i thought it was two cups and a wire 716934;1402664117;nubbins`;i thought it was two cups and a girl 716935;1402664124;nubbins`;wait, no, that's backwards 716936;1402664127;kakobrekla;maybe a wire and two girls. 716937;1402664130;mircea_popescu;lol lampelina'll love thart 716938;1402664142;nubbins`;how thick is the wire? 716939;1402664142;kakobrekla;actually she would. 716940;1402664159;nubbins`;0000-gauge and up or i'm not watching 716941;1402664176;kakobrekla;the gauge is the thing that goes in reverse right 716942;1402664178;Mats_cd03;militants advancing towards baghdad 716943;1402664184;nubbins`;yah 716944;1402664190;kakobrekla;who came up with that shit 716945;1402664190;nubbins`;quad-0 is just shy of 1/2" 716946;1402664191;mircea_popescu;"BTW If you owe me fiat and normally pay me via Bitcoin, for the next 2.5 weeks you can pay me based on the price I sold at, $650 CAD." << so inadvertently, the guy's holdings are 5 weeks of his income. 716947;1402664194;nubbins`;who knows! 716948;1402664198;Mats_cd03;bet its done in two months 716949;1402664199;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 716950;1402664201;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.0, Best ask: 599.69, Bid-ask spread: 3.69000, Last trade: 596.0, 24 hour volume: 32119.14208210, 24 hour low: 550.0, 24 hour high: 628.77, 24 hour vwap: 587.301256977 716951;1402664224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00082087 = 17.1151 BTC [-] {2} 716952;1402664234;nubbins`;btc/cad is ~660 right now 716953;1402664235;Vexual;i like how the fbi made a neat little bounce 716954;1402664239;mircea_popescu;;;calc 20 * 5 * 5/52 * 45000 / 587 716955;1402664240;gribble;737.124885336 716956;1402664254;mircea_popescu;the total estimated holdings of the bitcoin power rangers < 1k btc. 716957;1402664262;mircea_popescu;admitting todd's typical. 716958;1402664275;nubbins`;kakobrekla: apparently it's an indicator of how many pulls through a drawing die 716959;1402664298;mircea_popescu;(and i do believe he's typical, there's nothing more conformally uniform in the world than tech people.) 716960;1402664310;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_plate#mediaviewer/File:Draw_plates-two.jpg 716961;1402664310;assbot;Draw plate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 716962;1402664312;kakobrekla;nubbins` would make sense but it still doesnt. 716963;1402664323;nubbins`;0 gauge, bar stock 716964;1402664329;nubbins`;1 gauge, pull it thru first hole 716965;1402664330;nubbins`;etc 716966;1402664331;mircea_popescu; militants advancing towards baghdad << myeah. 716967;1402664335;nubbins`;still pretty silly 716968;1402664344;kakobrekla;you can tell it sucks if it cant go into negative. 716969;1402664352;nubbins`;inorite :( 716970;1402664352;mircea_popescu;negative thickness ?! 716971;1402664360;kakobrekla;yes! 716972;1402664366;mircea_popescu;like urc0k ? 716973;1402664375;Vexual;zing 716974;1402664376;fluffypony;lol 716975;1402664378;nubbins`;they just keep adding zeroes until people give up and use mm 716976;1402664414;mircea_popescu;speaking of negative cock thickness, so the good folk here don't fucking import condoms. 716977;1402664426;nubbins`;they produce em domesically? 716978;1402664434;Vexual;recycle? 716979;1402664440;*;nubbins` ponders economy of scale 716980;1402664443;nubbins`;sheep casings? 716981;1402664448;mircea_popescu;cue me in pharmacy with womenz in tow looking askew at the two mds there, with a stupid novelty ladden package onthe counter. "what are trhese!?!?" 716982;1402664469;mircea_popescu;so in the end i order research on condoms. answer comes out that the only half decent brand is "prime" 716983;1402664482;mircea_popescu;imagine, i could scribble "numbers" under it and be a real geek fucking. 716984;1402664497;Vexual;for 3 somes 716985;1402664499;nubbins`;imagine if you were to skip the women and fuck a pie 716986;1402664502;mircea_popescu;but anyway, so i go buy one of each type, and as chance would have it i first try the tyhing called "anatomical" 716987;1402664505;mircea_popescu;that thing... 716988;1402664517;mircea_popescu;that thing is so narrow i couldn't fit any part of it in there. 716989;1402664548;mircea_popescu;fucking clitoris condom 716990;1402664566;mircea_popescu;who the hell knew "anatomical" is condom codeword for "i have a very small icepick" 716991;1402664569;nubbins`;twist: it's a combination condom/cock ring 716992;1402664607;Vexual;prolly got the condom bachine on aliexpress 716993;1402664614;nubbins`;anyway, to quote sublime 716994;1402664621;nubbins`;el amigo es un condon en el bolsillo 716995;1402664628;mircea_popescu;lol 716996;1402664634;Mats_cd03;interesting turn for the kurds though 716997;1402664645;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 whassat 716998;1402664702;Mats_cd03;they've been shit on for a long time, now they have oil guns and territory 716999;1402664753;mircea_popescu;hahaha 717000;1402664765;mircea_popescu;what are you, like new to this risk! game of international intrigue ? 717001;1402664777;Mats_cd03;maybe they'll become a nation state, the dream of all oppressed little guys 717002;1402664789;mircea_popescu;or maybe they'll becomne dinner 717003;1402664794;mircea_popescu;the actual fate of all opressed little guys 717004;1402664796;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/internet-privacy-decision-by-supreme-court-comes-today-1.2673823 717005;1402664796;assbot;Internet privacy decision by Supreme Court comes today - Technology & Science - CBC News 717006;1402664818;mircea_popescu;they're oppressed for a reason you know. nobody in the entire history of oppression was oppressed for anything but a reason. 717007;1402664821;davout;mircea_popescu: "which kind ?" <<< apparently some eligius guy claims they've caught one of their miners doing the withold-correct-block-hashes thing 717008;1402664828;Mats_cd03;sometimes you get a scrappy one. I'll be watching closely 717009;1402664836;mircea_popescu;davout well do they offer any proof ? 717010;1402664845;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 care to make it intereskin ? 717011;1402664855;davout;none at all, so i was like wtf 717012;1402664861;davout;lemme fish the post 717013;1402664863;mircea_popescu;davout so moar drama. 717014;1402664879;nubbins`;wait, i thought the withholding hashes thing didn't work because of nonces or some sort of math shit 717015;1402664879;mircea_popescu;seems more a function ofyou for the first time reading miner stuff than anything else. 717016;1402664898;mircea_popescu;nubbins` huh ? 717017;1402664907;davout;mircea_popescu: here you go -> https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=441465.msg7282674#msg7282674 717018;1402664907;assbot;[6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) 717019;1402664912;nubbins`;just ignore, rambling 717020;1402664947;davout;mircea_popescu: "seems more a function ofyou for the first time reading miner stuff than anything else." <<< nah, just wtfing at this, wondering if i was right to be wtfing or simply stupid 717021;1402664948;nubbins`;OHHHH, sorry, i misunderstood 717022;1402664963;nubbins`;i thought they were saving up valid hashes to blow their wad all at once 717023;1402664965;nubbins`;not the case at all 717024;1402664998;mircea_popescu;davout the guy is a legit miner, but perhaps not too acquainted with logic. they're not detectable, they're susceptionable. 717025;1402665015;Mats_cd03;mircea_popescu: i like that...i wouldn't know what to select for a proposition, though 717026;1402665017;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37050 @ 0.00082043 = 30.3969 BTC [-] {2} 717027;1402665026;mircea_popescu;(if they actually were detectable they'd logically be prevetnable too) 717028;1402665037;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 me either tbh 717029;1402665064;davout;to me it sounds retarded to confiscate such an amount on a suspicion, especially when the suspected attacker has no economic incentive to be attacking in the first place 717030;1402665067;mircea_popescu;"My guess is that they never expected to get caught and suffer income loss as a result of their attack. But, once they were caught, I put a filter in place to block them from the payout queue (similar to the block on known MtGox addresses). Eligius’s offline wallet now has roughly 200 BTC work credits held from the payout queue under the attacker's addresses, that we have stopped them from stealing." 717031;1402665068;Vexual;well the other 50% prevents it, and as you tend to 100%, it becomes unprofitable 717032;1402665075;mircea_popescu;so elegius is stealing from some miner they had an argument with. 717033;1402665099;Vexual;how godly 717034;1402665104;mircea_popescu;why the fuck would someone keep a 200 btc balance, and esp with elegius, is beyong me. 717035;1402665120;Mats_cd03;Kurds create sovereign state recognized by majority of nations by 2015? 717036;1402665121;mircea_popescu;"When they noticed, weeks later, they contacted us complaining. We asked them to sign messages to verify they were in fact in control of the addresses in question including asking them to include a real name and location in the signed message, refusing to discuss it until they had done so" 717037;1402665131;mircea_popescu;herpy derp. so basically don't mine with elegius and that's that. 717038;1402665159;davout;Luke-Jr: what's with that? 717039;1402665166;davout;!up Luke-Jr 717040;1402665168;mircea_popescu;"It has unofficially been decided that if it came down to it, Eligius would shut down before being forced to pay any attacker of any kind any amount whatsoever." 717041;1402665187;mircea_popescu;o look, it's also closing ? isn't this one of the oldest pools still (sort-of) standing ? 717042;1402665200;kakobrekla;elegius deceiving users? wouldn't be the first time. 717043;1402665228;mircea_popescu;"P.S. - This is unrelated to any of the stats issues that have occurred. (Server migration for the new web server is still under way…)" 717044;1402665231;dub;inb4: I'd explain but you wouldnt understand 717045;1402665269;mircea_popescu;well the more persuasive explanation is, elegius fucked up a server upgrade (on its sole server, if you don't count an old backup box which is never live anyway), lost some user's accounts 717046;1402665270;kakobrekla;how much CP does 200btc buy Luke-Jr ? 717047;1402665276;mircea_popescu;and is now going into uberderpage mode to cover it up 717048;1402665314;mircea_popescu;forum responds : "WOOT WTG WK!!! you teach them that messing with our pool isn't an option Great job on catching them and stopping them from getting their reward for doing nothing Finally some scammers didn't get to scam...oh how good that makes me feel...lost 21 coins to some lying cheating bastards already one was the btcrow or some website email scam..thought i was using escrow but was really sending them the coi 717049;1402665314;mircea_popescu;ns oh well...Great job on running the pool WK!! couldn't ask for a better pool op" 717050;1402665338;mircea_popescu;these people should vote, seriously. then we'd finally have real democracy, when nothing and nobody prevents these people from giving their "opinion" on how public affairs should be run 717051;1402665345;mircea_popescu;and we'll all be happy and everything plentiful and good. 717052;1402665354;nubbins`;!up Vexual 717053;1402665403;fluffypony;kakobrekla: shouldn't you be asking Brock? 717054;1402665425;mircea_popescu;oh wait wait. 717055;1402665438;kakobrekla;who is brock 717056;1402665444;nubbins`;;;google brock 717057;1402665445;gribble;Brock - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia: ; Brock (anime) - Bulbapedia - Bulbagarden: ; Brock (Pokémon) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 717058;1402665448;nubbins`;ah 717059;1402665451;mircea_popescu;the even more logical conclusion : there's some miner going around with 32 bit hardware, that's unable to correctly handle 64 bit nonces 717060;1402665472;mircea_popescu;and so doesn't submit the winning block half the time it finds it, and doesn't care to fix his hardware. 717061;1402665479;fluffypony;kakobrekla: Bryan Singer's buddy 717062;1402665487;mircea_popescu;this has been known for fucking months, except apparently not by the elegius admin crew. 717063;1402665495;nubbins`;lel 717064;1402665497;fluffypony;http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828 717065;1402665498;assbot;Bryan Singer Sex Abuse Case: The Troubling History Behind the Accusations - The Hollywood Reporter 717066;1402665516;mircea_popescu;congrats on wizkid for making things sound retarded i guess. 717067;1402665555;kakobrekla;dunno if it makes any difference but bitstamp has a company registered for each of its ~20 'employees' here in slovenia. 717068;1402665575;fluffypony;kakobrekla: like 1 company per employee? 717069;1402665579;kakobrekla;yep 717070;1402665581;Vexual;neato 717071;1402665603;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla because they want the low tax 717072;1402665618;mircea_popescu;they get 20k euro per corp or so, if they make one per employee that's a 400k deduction 717073;1402665630;Vexual;when does co tax become beneficial in slov?? 717074;1402665639;Vexual;oh 717075;1402665660;davout;kakobrekla: interdasting 717076;1402665684;Vexual;i thought it might be, "we'll set you up as a co coz youll be making 1 million withing 6 months" 717077;1402665728;Vexual;"now code" 717078;1402665746;kakobrekla;CSS HARDER! 717079;1402665756;Vexual;all the styles! 717080;1402665797;Vexual;i don't know slovenia from slovakistan 717081;1402665910;mircea_popescu;Naphex check this out : 717082;1402665915;mircea_popescu;"In 5.16, I post my ticket. 717083;1402665916;mircea_popescu;In 5.21, you replied to request signature for my address, I replied. 717084;1402665916;mircea_popescu;In 5.23, you found my signature is wrong. after investigate, I found that I add a extra space on somewhere, then I re-sign the text. Then, a week passed. " 717085;1402665922;mircea_popescu;this is why i say the thing sucks and shouldn't be used. 717086;1402665969;mircea_popescu;makes it too damned easy for anyone to arbitrarily reject signs, which goes entirelky against the fucking point of a signature in the first place. 717087;1402666028;mircea_popescu;and the forumtards respond : ""If I didn't do it I would say that I didn't do it. You wrote a very long post and not one time did you say that you did not do it. To me, that says a lot! Don't bother now, it's too late. 717088;1402666052;mircea_popescu;some real king solomons out there, we're so fortunate to have everything the cat dragged in "involved" in bitcoin. thank you accessibility, thank you ever so. 717089;1402666129;mircea_popescu;"Even if it was unintentional you fucked up at everyone elses expense. Other people paid for your mistake in coding. You should return ALL the BTC you've mined." << someone was going on about how the confiscation "restored their faith in HUMANITY". this is then humanity, at its core. dunno why anyone'd want any part of it. 717090;1402666136;mircea_popescu;anyway, nice find davout 717091;1402666201;Vexual;;;later tell decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhOqrvCwOsU 717092;1402666201;assbot;Charlie's Country - Clip: "Licence" - YouTube 717093;1402666202;gribble;The operation succeeded. 717094;1402666298;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00081972 = 12.4188 BTC [-] 717095;1402666309;davout;mircea_popescu: i just realized the "WOOT WTG WK!" quote was actually what someone said 717096;1402666317;mircea_popescu;it was. 717097;1402666358;davout;that resonates with asciilifeform's comment wrt taleb piercing the bozo field 717098;1402666366;mircea_popescu;anyway, ghash having 51% is 717099;1402666374;mircea_popescu;WAY better than that fuckwit eleutheria having 51% 717100;1402666386;Vexual;fuck wrong person 717101;1402666389;mircea_popescu;last time that happened we ended up with a hard fork. so far ghash is 0-1 on the score. 717102;1402666454;Vexual;;;later tell decimation that was meant for Mats_cd03 regarding whether or not he needed a ham license for his hackrf 717103;1402666455;gribble;The operation succeeded. 717104;1402666594;Vexual;ghash is boss pool 717105;1402666629;mircea_popescu;for as long that'll last. 717106;1402666633;Vexual;TAT asked was it bullshit 717107;1402666639;Vexual;seems not 717108;1402666720;Vexual;yeah some other bastard will bring more peta with tricker deployment measures, and bitcoin succeeds 717109;1402666908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00082286 = 7.9817 BTC [+] 717110;1402666951;Vexual;theres a reason dogetreats are priced in satoshi 717111;1402666969;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00230894 = 0.2309 BTC [-] {3} 717112;1402667158;mircea_popescu;pankkake: who is this petertodd? << one of the saner of the power ranger bunch. 717113;1402667212;bitcoinpete;heya 717114;1402667239;mircea_popescu;pankkake: "It will always be cheaper to run a small amount of hashing power than a large amount" wat << in good tech tradition, he understands nothing of business, including the fact that he understands nothing of it. 717115;1402667243;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete hey 717116;1402667258;fluffypony;ohaaaai bitcoinpete 717117;1402667266;nubbins`;hmm 717118;1402667273;bitcoinpete;lol someone's chipper this morning 717119;1402667313;nubbins`;i wonder will these SR coins auction for below or above market rate 717120;1402667342;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: the sr coins will go for market rate because they are market rate 717121;1402667352;bitcoinpete;more or less 717122;1402667363;bitcoinpete;limited by only being accessible to us citizens and whatnot 717123;1402667364;mircea_popescu;nubbins` the announced price will be under market rate. the "winner" will not actually have to pay anything, but will have to support usg policy. 717124;1402667397;nubbins`;hm, i woulda put my money on above market rate 717125;1402667398;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete they're not limited to being accessible to us citizens. they're limited to being accessible to that one corp that makes the most convincing case it'll be useful. 717126;1402667425;nubbins`;there's gotta be at least a few financial institutions/hedge funds/whatever that want btc but don't want to purchase from a foreign exchange, guy on the street, etc 717127;1402667431;mircea_popescu;nubbins` so make a bitbet. "the announced price of the usms sale will be under market rate at that time" 717128;1402667441;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu i'd love to be the one reading those proposals 717129;1402667441;nubbins`;i just may 717130;1402667442;mircea_popescu;nubbins` so ? 717131;1402667452;mircea_popescu;!up veeminer 717132;1402667455;mircea_popescu;!up Vexual 717133;1402667469;nubbins`;so, now's their chance 717134;1402667475;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: is the auction not based on price alone? 717135;1402667486;mircea_popescu;nubbins` no, it's not. 717136;1402667487;bitcoinpete;"we promise to use these bitcoins to finance libraries for coindeskers" 717137;1402667495;mircea_popescu;fluffypony it's not bnased on th price at all. the fuck does the usg need 50mn 717138;1402667500;fluffypony;that's fucking retarded. 717139;1402667505;mircea_popescu;no it's not. 717140;1402667513;mircea_popescu;it's the usg laundering its ill gotten bitcoins. 717141;1402667517;bitcoinpete;"we promise to use these bitcoin to finance roads to hawaii" 717142;1402667518;fluffypony;no I don't mean from there perspective 717143;1402667519;mircea_popescu;through a "sale" to a "private" party. 717144;1402667540;nubbins`;ah 717145;1402667541;mircea_popescu;anyway, they'll announce it as somewhat under market. 717146;1402667553;mircea_popescu;sadly i have little avenue to bitchslap them 717147;1402667572;mircea_popescu;but i do suspect someone leaked teh d. series plans, because they've been moving before i said that. 717148;1402667594;Vexual;does d really mean discount? 717149;1402667599;bitcoinpete;so is that them diddling the "price" leading up to the auction? 717150;1402667599;mircea_popescu;(it's really the same thing, trying to use the propaganda machine to control btc via "news" of "sales") 717151;1402667608;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete doubt it. 717152;1402667634;bitcoinpete;a ok 717153;1402667655;mircea_popescu;just the usual mommentum traders getting raped yet again. 717154;1402667679;nubbins`;but if i don't hop on the train, i'll never travel 717155;1402667688;nubbins`;sure, it might be in the wrong direction, but hey 717156;1402667690;mircea_popescu;right-o. 717157;1402667704;nubbins`;i'm a part of this thing &c &c 717158;1402667727;davout;mircea_popescu: wrt to the d. series, in case of acquisition the asset becomes worthless, right? 717159;1402667761;mircea_popescu;davout that'll be a case by case basis. 717160;1402667771;mircea_popescu;if they do a reverse-ipo for instance it'll stick. 717161;1402667800;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu but i do suspect someone leaked teh d. series plans, because they've been moving before i said that. << can you explain "they've been moving?" 717162;1402667833;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete the "we're selling bitcoin" news manipulation went in days before the "i'm going to kill your "investment" news manipulation" announcement. 717163;1402667867;mircea_popescu;why not at any prior point for the past... year ? 717164;1402667867;bitcoinpete;a yes 717165;1402667883;bitcoinpete;there's room for coincidence 717166;1402667897;bitcoinpete;i mean, the number of people who knew about d.series 717167;1402667923;bitcoinpete;makes for a hard, but not impossible, pill to swallow 717168;1402667939;fluffypony;🍺 717169;1402667941;mircea_popescu;traders talk. if they didn't, they couldn't trade. it's a complex beast. 717170;1402668050;bitcoinpete;to be sure 717171;1402668096;mircea_popescu;davout generally i might do something like "in case of acquisition by listed corp, you get the delta for the next 30 days" 717172;1402668096;bitcoinpete;i guess i didn't read the usg sale as propaganda-y 717173;1402668108;mircea_popescu;tho that's kinda dubious, but hey 717174;1402668128;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete bitcoin is war, you know. 717175;1402668139;Vexual;30 mil pays some wages 717176;1402668162;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: nothing less. our mafia vs theirs 717177;1402668194;bitcoinpete;i guess it'd have to be 'ganda, or else they'd just keep their coins like a sane person 717178;1402668200;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/BfgSfq4 717179;1402668200;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717180;1402668263;nubbins`;lel 717181;1402668265;nubbins`;"Mac Pro cold boots a Windows Server 2012 R2 Domain Controller in 3 seconds. Coffee keeps getting cold - no opportunity to take a sip." 717182;1402668302;mircea_popescu;anyone ever seriously ran a system in their history that took longer ? 717183;1402668311;mircea_popescu;i count to three and start throwing things 717184;1402668348;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://klassix.net/keith/Kindle%20Backup%202-20-11/documents/First%20Circle,%20The%20-%20Alexander%20Solzhenitsyn.txt << how bad a translation is this iyo ? 717185;1402668372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [+] 717186;1402668433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07070707 = 0.2121 BTC [+] 717187;1402668523;kakobrekla;>I like NastyMining due to how open and honest they are...for BTC securities that is refreshing. Will my shares make me ROI?? Probably not, but I am still pleased with them. Look around in this section and go troll the real scammers...k thanks! 717188;1402668530;kakobrekla;and this dude is voiced in this chan. 717189;1402668534;kakobrekla;clearly something is off. 717190;1402668544;fluffypony;lol 717191;1402668557;bitcoinpete;unvoice the heretic! 717192;1402668583;nubbins`;haha 717193;1402668585;kakobrekla;lampelina did you put stuff in my food? 717194;1402668592;nubbins`;"will my investment tank? yes, but who cares?" 717195;1402668662;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: with all this great violin music on the titanic... 717196;1402668666;nubbins`;mp, not everyone is running ms-dos ;( 717197;1402668671;nubbins`;hah 717198;1402668685;nubbins`;"other than that, mrs. lincoln, how was the play?" 717199;1402668751;mircea_popescu; and this dude is voiced in this chan. << whjo ?! 717200;1402668763;kakobrekla;*drumroll* 717201;1402668766;kakobrekla;Blazedout419 717202;1402668771;nubbins`;wat 717203;1402668775;nubbins`;;;rated Blazedout419 717204;1402668776;gribble;You rated user Blazedout419 on Sun Mar 2 12:59:46 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: trusted trader. 717205;1402668786;mircea_popescu;Blazedout419 dude are you serious even ?! 717206;1402668808;nubbins`;it took me like 4 months to figure out what "nastyfans" was 717207;1402668817;nubbins`;"why would you pay money to be in this weird club?" etc 717208;1402668836;Vexual;not quite 420 717209;1402668836;kakobrekla;cause only 65% loss compared to the average of 99% 717210;1402668850;nubbins`;then i realized they were doing the careful-language-dance 717211;1402668854;mircea_popescu;nubbins` some random dork's odd approach to legal matters. 717212;1402668859;nubbins`;nod 717213;1402668860;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 50 @ 0.04 = 2 BTC [+] 717214;1402668869;mircea_popescu;anyway, whatever happened of nefario's buttbuddy, some chav running "red star mining" ? 717215;1402668870;nubbins`;if we don't CALL it shares in a mining security... 717216;1402668886;Vexual;hes dickslexical 717217;1402668911;nubbins`;they're still on the go 717218;1402668917;Vexual;the swede bought all his shit before he lab coined 717219;1402668919;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/oKK1OBf 717220;1402668920;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717221;1402668929;pankkake;he got butthurd when i left him negative feedback for running a self moderated thread 717222;1402668929;nubbins`;^ there's the ceo at a recent conference 717223;1402668957;Vexual;looks like zacdelasomeone 717224;1402668961;nubbins`;shhhh!! 717225;1402668970;nubbins`;ignore the drums too 717226;1402668986;nubbins`;concentrate on the large ASICs in the foreground 717227;1402669019;Vexual;oh i see it now nubbins`, and ive more money than before 717228;1402669022;nubbins`;nod 717229;1402669031;nubbins`;makes sense, yes? 717230;1402669033;Vexual;nod 717231;1402669049;mircea_popescu; the swede bought all his shit before he lab coined << how quaint. 717232;1402669083;nubbins`;god, i can't even remember what scam the swede was pushing 717233;1402669086;nubbins`;i should write this shit down 717234;1402669152;pankkake;he was the PR for Labcoin 717235;1402669158;nubbins`;riiiiiiiiiight 717236;1402669180;Vexual;prolly on cryptostocks now ? red star? 717237;1402669181;pankkake;but every good scam uses random forum users for PR 717238;1402669182;nubbins`;oh, in the meantime, i see charlie shrem is active on the forums again 717239;1402669189;kakobrekla;alberto armandi, one of the best. 717240;1402669190;ThickAsThieves;<+fluffypony> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/281ftd/why_i_just_sold_50_of_my_bitcoins_ghashio/ ---- I love how everyone is acting like something can be done. 717241;1402669191;assbot;Why I just sold 50% of my bitcoins: GHash.IO : Bitcoin 717242;1402669191;pankkake;Vexual: on the 796 exchange 717243;1402669198;Vexual;ah 717244;1402669297;pankkake;!up Vexual 717245;1402669299;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that's whatreddit is for neh ? for people who can't do anything to pretend like they're doing things. 717246;1402669340;nubbins`;;;gettrust assbot Vexual 717247;1402669341;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never 717248;1402669390;nubbins`;hmm, this new death grips album features bjork on all the tracks 717249;1402669395;Vexual;ooh 717250;1402669405;nubbins`;yeah 717251;1402669409;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43150 @ 0.00081963 = 35.367 BTC [-] {2} 717252;1402669431;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kDinXI0bxM&list=PL55Jv4fGPIb-L4Q2i2DGNWMI6fPh9MBUD 717253;1402669431;assbot;Death Grips - Up My Sleeves - YouTube 717254;1402669449;nubbins`;lel, there's a track called "have a sad cum" 717255;1402669452;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419 717256;1402669453;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013 717257;1402669456;nubbins`;AS IF I NEED TO BE TOLD D; 717258;1402669480;nubbins`;http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Blazedout419 717259;1402669481;assbot;#bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph 717260;1402669492;mircea_popescu;nubbins` hm ? 717261;1402669505;nubbins`;just curious 717262;1402669517;nubbins`;for a sec i thought "wow, mp rated rg +10?" 717263;1402669544;nubbins`;then i lrnd 2 rd grafs 717264;1402669559;mircea_popescu;lol 717265;1402669598;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> davout so moar drama. /// you know what that means! 717266;1402669614;nubbins`;more testicles = more iron 717267;1402669616;nubbins`;more drama = ??? 717268;1402669635;mircea_popescu;moar price! moons! 717269;1402669641;nubbins`;ah 717270;1402669647;nubbins`;this will wreak havoc on the tides 717271;1402669659;nubbins`;i'm glad my house is up the hill from the water 717272;1402669739;nubbins`;oh hey, fun fact: i'd have to fly west to visit argentina 717273;1402669750;artifexd;nubbins`: Awesome. Thanks! 717274;1402669757;nubbins`;thank YOU 717275;1402669770;artifexd;No. Thank YOU! 717276;1402669775;nubbins`;hmm 717277;1402669782;nubbins`;it seems we've reached a stalemate 717278;1402669787;*;nubbins` rattles sabre 717279;1402669792;artifexd;Thanks for everyone then. 717280;1402669848;mircea_popescu;no u 717281;1402669863;mircea_popescu;nubbins` west ?! 717282;1402669867;nubbins`;yup 717283;1402669884;nubbins`;https://www.google.ca/maps/place/St+John's,+NL/ 717284;1402669884;assbot;St John's, NL - Google Maps 717285;1402669886;nubbins`;zoom out til you can see 717286;1402669893;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what time you got at m ? 717287;1402669894;bitcoinpete;http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/wrongness-ok-and-not/ 717288;1402669899;nubbins`;noon 717289;1402669909;mircea_popescu;you're not flying west or east then 717290;1402669925;nubbins`;not through time, no 717291;1402669926;nubbins`;but through space, yes 717292;1402669932;Vexual;well.... 717293;1402669960;Vexual;you aint light either 717294;1402669974;mircea_popescu;wut ? lol 717295;1402669982;nubbins`;st john's is directly north of uruguay's easternmost border 717296;1402669982;mircea_popescu;if you're not leaving your timezone what west is that 717297;1402669999;mircea_popescu;usure you got those graphs ? 717298;1402670005;nubbins`;heh. 717299;1402670012;nubbins`;i'm definitely leaving my time zone 717300;1402670047;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Time_Zone 717301;1402670047;assbot;Newfoundland Time Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 717302;1402670053;mircea_popescu;"I have a steakhouse dinner tonight in honor of Eric Cantor with some business economists;" 717303;1402670071;mircea_popescu;dude the fucking bullshit habit of renaming stuff you were already gonna do. 717304;1402670083;nubbins`;hmm 717305;1402670084;nubbins`;http://www.fgienr.net/time-zone/fuseaux.gif 717306;1402670094;mircea_popescu;here's a news flash : if you're not having AN EXTRA dinner on top of your normal dinner, you're not having a dinner in honor of anybodyu 717307;1402670103;nubbins`;according to that, i'd be flying west and turning my watch forward 717308;1402670106;*;nubbins` scratches head 717309;1402670122;justusranvier;http://pastebin.com/74NURN3j 717310;1402670122;assbot;Exciting changes at BitAngels - an update on multiple fronts - Pastebin.com 717311;1402670122;mircea_popescu;just like some dorks that meet each friday for a beer attheir pub can't just put up a sign saying "bitcoin conference hackathon and miss universe contest" 717312;1402670130;Vexual;grand unified theory of where nubbns is 717313;1402670130;nubbins`;I have a steakhouse dinner tonight in honor of my hunger 717314;1402670140;mircea_popescu;and pretend like their alleged conference-hackathon-topless party attracted a huge crowd 717315;1402670188;nubbins`;Vexual: they even colored us grey on that map 717316;1402670189;wywialm;hello -assets 717317;1402670194;nubbins`;the color of honor and dignity 717318;1402670198;nubbins`;hi wyw 717319;1402670203;mircea_popescu;justusranvier no word about how "we're some contemptible pieces of shit that lied about things and were made a public mockery when the people we lied about never heard of us" ? 717320;1402670206;mircea_popescu;nice pr. 717321;1402670285;nubbins`;actually, funny coincidence 717322;1402670289;nubbins`;there's a town here called Argentia 717323;1402670293;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: lol "everyone was there!" 717324;1402670305;nubbins`;not to be confused with Argentina (unless you're a spell-check) 717325;1402670331;mircea_popescu;i guess since the dork in question can't gpg sign, i could make a pastebin too. let's have some fun 717326;1402670528;nubbins`;WOAH 717327;1402670541;nubbins`;so the violent lesbian who lives next door looks about 8 months pregnant 717328;1402670547;*;nubbins` scratches head 717329;1402670595;TomServo;I have a neighbor that's looked the same for about 2 years. 717330;1402670612;Vexual;cool story bro 717331;1402670623;nubbins`;maybe her baby petrified 717332;1402670624;nubbins`;i've heard of this 717333;1402670634;TomServo;Funnily enough, she proclaimed 'And I'm not pregnant' in the same breath she introduced herself. 717334;1402670715;nubbins`;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithopedion 717335;1402670716;assbot;Lithopedion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 717336;1402670717;Mats_cd03;divine insemination 717337;1402670724;Vexual;russia looks real big on that projection 717338;1402670750;nubbins`;lithopedia, the stone babies anyone can edit 717339;1402670764;nubbins`;greenland too 717340;1402670772;Mats_cd03;the antichrist needs 36 months to gestate 717341;1402670784;Vexual;yeah, thats an equatorialist map 717342;1402670787;ThickAsThieves;Nintendo won't add Twitch streaming to Wii U: 'What's fun about that?' --- Nintendo rox 717343;1402670801;nubbins`;nintendo, big on fun 717344;1402670807;nubbins`;i bought a wii u a couple weeks ago 717345;1402670825;Vexual;youve got about 5.5 months until it dies 717346;1402670873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00082286 = 12.2195 BTC [+] 717347;1402670899;nubbins`;the baby?! 717348;1402670904;Vexual;consoles shoudnt have batteries 717349;1402670911;nubbins`;oh, the wii u 717350;1402670919;nubbins`;how else you gonna keep the clock running? 717351;1402670968;Vexual;the thing is quite obviously an aborted vr headset 717352;1402671016;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/WgTAmXTm 717353;1402671016;assbot;Exciting changes at BitAngels - an update on multiple fronts - Pastebin.com 717354;1402671018;mircea_popescu;there, much better. 717355;1402671022;nubbins`;all i know is mario kart 8 is fun ;( 717356;1402671038;Vexual;oooh 717357;1402671056;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 19 @ 0.04 = 0.76 BTC [+] 717358;1402671104;mircea_popescu; Funnily enough, she proclaimed 'And I'm not pregnant' in the same breath she introduced herself. << cirrhosis ? 717359;1402671110;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: lmao there we go 717360;1402671115;bitcoinpete;ficksed! 717361;1402671161;ThickAsThieves;not sure if i missed it, is mpif trading NMC now too? 717362;1402671198;nubbins`;lel @ tourists outside taking pictures of the row houses 717363;1402671202;nubbins`;!up Vexual 717364;1402671205;nubbins`;if only they knew 717365;1402671220;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves manager studying thepossibility. 717366;1402671275;nubbins`;ThickAsThieves you may find this interesting 717367;1402671291;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/5Fakoal 717368;1402671292;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717369;1402671307;nubbins`;finally got an excuse to use silver ink 717370;1402671338;mircea_popescu;nubbins` btw,can you make me gold ink business cards? 717371;1402671345;ThickAsThieves;neat, i only ever did maybe two metallic ink projects 717372;1402671351;nubbins`;mircea_popescu of course 717373;1402671357;mircea_popescu;on kickass silk paper ? 717374;1402671361;ThickAsThieves;a jewelry gift bag, and a annual meeting invitation 717375;1402671366;nubbins`;how about kickass cotton paper? 717376;1402671373;mircea_popescu;silken finish ? 717377;1402671391;ThickAsThieves;mp make sure you are clear on the difference between metallic ink and foil embossed 717378;1402671392;nubbins`;ah, cotton finish? 717379;1402671405;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves im clueless. halp ? 717380;1402671418;nubbins`;foil embossed looks like gold leaf stuck to the paper 717381;1402671420;ThickAsThieves;ink looks like graphite basically 717382;1402671423;nubbins`;could shave in it 717383;1402671426;ThickAsThieves;foil looks like metal 717384;1402671440;nubbins`;i think i have pics of gold ink on cotton, one sec 717385;1402671450;mircea_popescu;ah that's what i want, foil embossed 717386;1402671454;ThickAsThieves;of course showing pics of metallic ink... 717387;1402671468;ThickAsThieves;doesnt get you much 717388;1402671479;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: please tell me you're working on a trilema post for the angels pastebin. if not, i'm on it 717389;1402671483;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves so what does itdo ? just discretely sparkle ? 717390;1402671489;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete go for it 717391;1402671497;ThickAsThieves;yeah like a bit better than pencil lead 717392;1402671508;mircea_popescu;if i put the idiots on trilema that'd increase their "brand" by 10k%, just for a post. 717393;1402671526;mircea_popescu;i c. well thanks for that lol. 717394;1402671538;ThickAsThieves;it's neat looking on uncoated paper 717395;1402671541;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: booyah 717396;1402671544;ThickAsThieves;it's just not the same thing as foil 717397;1402671544;TomServo;mircea_popescu: It's a good possibility. 717398;1402671555;mircea_popescu;so nubbins` can you do foil embossed over paper that looks like i cut it out of a high class whore's bedsheets ? 717399;1402671573;ThickAsThieves;i should also note, i personally find foil to be supremely tacky 717400;1402671577;ThickAsThieves;so... 717401;1402671590;nubbins`;yeah, foil sucks 717402;1402671590;mircea_popescu;that's the point. 717403;1402671596;mircea_popescu;not when you're me. 717404;1402671596;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/XRhLDJs 717405;1402671596;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717406;1402671596;nubbins`;^ gold ink 717407;1402671620;mircea_popescu;ah tjat's not so bad 717408;1402671620;nubbins`;it shimmers 717409;1402671625;mircea_popescu;way better than just some graphite. 717410;1402671630;mircea_popescu;nubbins` got a foil one anywhere ? 717411;1402671637;ThickAsThieves;yeah the gold ink does come off better than the silver 717412;1402671637;nubbins`;we're not set up for foil 717413;1402671647;ThickAsThieves;embossing is nice too 717414;1402671654;mircea_popescu;i see. okay! so why are there two "colors" of gold ? 717415;1402671662;nubbins`;that's the light shining off it 717416;1402671666;ThickAsThieves;cause it's metallic 717417;1402671673;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: how bad a translation is this iyo << acceptable translation. (had occasion to read original quite recently.) 717418;1402671684;mircea_popescu;i mean the blank seems to have a margin around it 717419;1402671690;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ty 717420;1402671700;nubbins`;ah yes yes 717421;1402671705;ThickAsThieves;oh that's just at 50% coverage or such 717422;1402671715;nubbins`;that's a solid border with halftone dots in the middle 717423;1402671717;mircea_popescu;nubbins` so do you have muy luxurious paper ? 717424;1402671718;davout;mircea_popescu: "there, much better." <<< nice 717425;1402671741;nubbins`;mircea_popescu our go-to cotton paper is stonehenge 250gsm, nice and thick, used by steadman, vonnegut, etc 717426;1402671763;mircea_popescu;is it pale pale pink ? 717427;1402671768;mircea_popescu;like boiled in cuntwater ? 717428;1402671771;ThickAsThieves;lol 717429;1402671773;nubbins`;heh 717430;1402671788;nubbins`;we generally buy "cream" which can look pinkish in some lights 717431;1402671799;mircea_popescu;but can you buy cuntish, which looks pinkish in all lights ? 717432;1402671808;ThickAsThieves;you can print cuntish 717433;1402671812;nubbins`;^ 717434;1402671817;mircea_popescu;how's that work ? 717435;1402671820;nubbins`;stonehenge doesn't come in cuntish 717436;1402671829;Vexual;mad foldin on the back 717437;1402671829;ThickAsThieves;you flood print the whole sheet 717438;1402671830;mircea_popescu;nubbins` got anything that does ? 717439;1402671831;nubbins`;but we could just print a light pink base laye 717440;1402671841;nubbins`;r 717441;1402671844;mircea_popescu;i c 717442;1402671849;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00082358 = 11.2007 BTC [+] {2} 717443;1402671852;mircea_popescu;but is this stonehedge shiny ? 717444;1402671866;ThickAsThieves;metallic on shiny is not good 717445;1402671881;nubbins`;nope, coated (shiny) papers don't print well 717446;1402671884;nubbins`;hmm 717447;1402671888;nubbins`;now, we can get black cotton paper 717448;1402671892;mircea_popescu;hm 717449;1402671898;mircea_popescu;black is not bad. 717450;1402671899;nubbins`;looks pretty rich 717451;1402671917;mircea_popescu;ok, make me 100 black 100 floodprinted pale cunt color ? how do i give you the face ? 717452;1402671939;nubbins`;vector format is best 717453;1402671943;nubbins`;.ai, .pdf. .eps 717454;1402671948;nubbins`;.svg, even 717455;1402671950;mircea_popescu;what dpi you got ? 717456;1402671957;nubbins`;all the dpi 717457;1402671967;mircea_popescu;lol all the dpi. what px size is the card ? 717458;1402671973;nubbins`;this is silkscreen, dpi is for digital prints ;D 717459;1402671991;nubbins`;300dpi if you're including bitmaps 717460;1402672006;mircea_popescu;;;google business card size 717461;1402672007;gribble;How Big is a Standard Size Business Card? - Desktop Publishing: ; Business Card Sizes « Designers Toolbox: ; Business card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 717462;1402672008;Vexual;.corel 717463;1402672010;nubbins`;if it's just shapes/text, size doesn't really matter 717464;1402672025;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it's just text but i use obscure fonts :D 717465;1402672028;nubbins`;oic 717466;1402672039;nubbins`;convert 'em to shapes / outlines :D 717467;1402672043;nubbins`;(i do too) 717468;1402672061;nubbins`;in inkscape, Path > Object to path 717469;1402672065;mircea_popescu;so 1050 x 600 px good for you ? 717470;1402672072;nubbins`;sure 717471;1402672075;mircea_popescu;cool. 717472;1402672104;mircea_popescu;what's a 100 cost ? 717473;1402672127;Vexual;100? save some til next conference, i want one 717474;1402672152;ThickAsThieves;100 costs same as 1000 probly 717475;1402672174;ThickAsThieves;a black on gold design i did once: http://imgur.com/rPXbIyZ 717476;1402672174;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717477;1402672182;ThickAsThieves;gold on black... 717478;1402672190;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves not bad 717479;1402672206;ThickAsThieves;she wanted olde timey 717480;1402672249;nubbins`;nice 717481;1402672269;nubbins`;let me see 717482;1402672318;nubbins`;100 black + 100 pussy pink would run ya about $160 717483;1402672331;nubbins`;per-unit cost decreases dramatically with larger orders, of course 717484;1402672332;mircea_popescu;and 1k each ? 717485;1402672359;ThickAsThieves;"It's with great excitement that we unveil the new Bitcoin.com, a user-friendly resource that shows how to acquire, store and spend your bitcoins." http://www.bitcoin.com/ 717486;1402672360;assbot;Bitcoin.com 717487;1402672365;nubbins`;$400 717488;1402672394;ThickAsThieves;so basically bitcoin.com has been marketized 717489;1402672401;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves basically. 717490;1402672412;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you ever shipped anything to argentina before ? 717491;1402672413;ThickAsThieves;it's partner logos 717492;1402672415;ThickAsThieves;yay 717493;1402672430;ThickAsThieves;and very american 717494;1402672456;nubbins`;not that i can recall 717495;1402672457;mircea_popescu;lol 717496;1402672464;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i wonder how long it takes 717497;1402672475;nubbins`;airmail, maybe a week or two 717498;1402672482;nubbins`;surface, maybe 4-6 weeks 717499;1402672509;mircea_popescu;;/ 717500;1402672520;nubbins`;xpresspost, within a week 717501;1402672539;nubbins`;all guesswork here :D 717502;1402672545;mircea_popescu;ima have to see if there's a local solution 717503;1402672551;ThickAsThieves;you could always run the job through 4over.com, the paper wouldnt be quite as nice, but few would notic 717504;1402672561;nubbins`;it's definitely cheaper to get cards done locally 717505;1402672565;ThickAsThieves;they have 16pt uncoated and do metallics 717506;1402672569;Vexual;bueos airies gets planes muy times day 717507;1402672572;nubbins`;vistaprint makes 'em for what, 7 cents each? 717508;1402672575;thestringpuller;ah price drp 717509;1402672575;thestringpuller;op 717510;1402672579;thestringpuller;wow lag 717511;1402672581;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.00221413 = 0.3166 BTC [-] {12} 717512;1402672586;Vexual;how long does the moose take? 717513;1402672599;nubbins`;Vexual, about 3 hours in a stew 717514;1402672604;nubbins`;quicker for sausages 717515;1402672604;ThickAsThieves;the average mammal takes 21secs to pee 717516;1402672613;Vexual;lol 717517;1402672627;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i dunno, prolly will be more expensive locally, cause they got hsit for tech 717518;1402672632;mircea_popescu;but it won't liklely be two weeks. 717519;1402672634;nubbins`;ahh 717520;1402672635;mircea_popescu;or so i hope. 717521;1402672638;mircea_popescu;tho with these people... 717522;1402672641;Vexual;and smaller 717523;1402672642;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.00208151 = 0.3268 BTC [-] {5} 717524;1402672647;nubbins`;yeah, i mean, it'd take us two weeks just to get the paper and print the cards 717525;1402672669;nubbins`;up-side is that you look like a baller handing out hand-printed business cards 717526;1402672693;mircea_popescu;maybe eventually, but i'll have to be handing out somethingmeanwhile. 717527;1402672698;nubbins`;nod 717528;1402672703;nubbins`;man gotta have cards 717529;1402672711;thestringpuller;developers are offloading 717530;1402672725;nubbins`;developers hold btc? 717531;1402672726;nubbins`;;) 717532;1402672731;thestringpuller;lolol i kno rite? 717533;1402672784;nubbins`;i wonder will goat ever get around to getting his certs printed 717534;1402672791;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: they got hsit for tech << speaking of which, know of any civilized electronics plants in Ar? 717535;1402672852;mircea_popescu;nope. 717536;1402672853;thestringpuller;Arkansas? 717537;1402672859;thestringpuller;oh Argentina lol 717538;1402672876;asciilifeform;L-kansas. 717539;1402672953;nubbins`;now, if you're getting printed shit shipped to you, might as well go full-throttle, order up some mpex propaganda posters, get one of your staff to go around wheatpasting them in the financial district 717540;1402672969;davout;asciilifeform: lol 717541;1402672977;diametric;asciilifeform: my friend johnny is still interested, when I met with him in DC recently and he told me about his new pnp machine, said he was interested. 717542;1402672982;mircea_popescu;im not much interested in advertising on the street in argentina tho 717543;1402672989;diametric;asciilifeform: we could go visit it anytime as well. 717544;1402673009;diametric;Rather I should rephrase, I have a standing invite to visit ultimachine whenever I want, I could bring you with 717545;1402673017;nubbins`;!up Vexual 717546;1402673045;asciilifeform;diametric: neato. probably should get a quote first, don't wanna waste his time 717547;1402673052;nubbins`;street advertising is very effective with the right message 717548;1402673067;nubbins`;doesn't argentina have crazy capital controls? 717549;1402673125;thestringpuller;nubbins`: I want a shirt 717550;1402673218;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it does, yes. 717551;1402673226;mircea_popescu;effective, in what sense ? 717552;1402673338;nubbins`;thestringpuller: 717553;1402673344;nubbins`;;;echo 25/[ticker --last] 717554;1402673344;gribble;25/ 591.94 717555;1402673350;nubbins`;WAT 717556;1402673378;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: effective in that it can make people think about, or do, things they wouldn't otherwise 717557;1402673401;nubbins`;;;calc 25/[ticker --last] 717558;1402673403;gribble;0.0424448217317 717559;1402673418;nubbins`;thestringpuller: ^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 717560;1402673440;peterl;just got my first betbet refferal payment today 717561;1402673447;Vexual;didn't mp ask someone to poster wall st? 717562;1402673458;peterl;I wonder how much referal money I missed before the time thing got fixed? 717563;1402673463;thestringpuller;nubbins`: does that include shipping? I'm technically international 717564;1402673475;nubbins`;yep, shipping included 717565;1402673511;mircea_popescu;peterl how much was it ? 717566;1402673529;peterl;like 0.5 mB 717567;1402673539;mircea_popescu;and how long ago was it fixed ? coupla months ? 717568;1402673547;mircea_popescu;how long had you been advertising it ? 717569;1402673554;mircea_popescu;if you've not changed much just multiply those two 717570;1402673557;peterl;I think I started in January? 717571;1402673566;mircea_popescu;so like 1mb ? 717572;1402673583;peterl;yeah, scammer you all ripped me off! ;) 717573;1402674043;nubbins`;http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/7156/125/ 717574;1402674045;assbot;Michael Geist - Supreme Court Delivers Huge Victory for Internet Privacy & Blows Away Gov't Plans for Reform 717575;1402674328;Vexual;Adieu 717576;1402674341;nubbins`;"The court notes that ISPs are not required to disclose this information and this case reaches the conclusion that they are not permitted to do so absent a warrant either." 717577;1402674533;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 95 @ 0.042 = 3.99 BTC 717578;1402674630;ThickAsThieves;get dat SHA 717579;1402674667;mircea_popescu;yay card design ready 717580;1402674705;nubbins`;let's take a peek! 717581;1402674793;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/if-youre-one-of-the-numerous-buenos-aires-printing-shops-ill-be-harassing-over-the-day/ 717582;1402674794;assbot;If you’re one of the numerous Buenos Aires printing shops I’ll be harassing over the day pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 717583;1402674837;asciilifeform;lol 717584;1402674842;asciilifeform;somehow i expected exactly this picture 717585;1402674859;nubbins`;heh 717586;1402674861;ThickAsThieves;lol, pink or otherwise black paper 717587;1402674870;mircea_popescu;:D 717588;1402674873;ThickAsThieves;that design is hideous 717589;1402674893;ThickAsThieves;ah it's all squished in your blog 717590;1402674925;nubbins`;art deco is the new modern 717591;1402674932;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves wellyeah 717592;1402674936;asciilifeform;i'd use something readable for the fp 717593;1402674949;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform its not readable ? 717594;1402674954;asciilifeform;say, c64 bitmap font 717595;1402674963;mircea_popescu;mthreat care to recommend a print shop that can print gold leaf/ink ? 717596;1402674964;davout;comic sans 717597;1402674969;ThickAsThieves;well at least you didnt use helvetica 717598;1402674976;mircea_popescu;how the hell is it not readable 717599;1402674984;mircea_popescu;these are like the most distinct glyphs ever 717600;1402674994;mircea_popescu;nubbins` it's been the new modern since what, the 20s ? 717601;1402675001;mthreat;mircea_popescu: i don't know, haven't printed anything like biz cards yet here 717602;1402675006;davout;which 20s? 717603;1402675008;davout;:D 717604;1402675010;mircea_popescu;:D 717605;1402675011;mthreat;the "8" looks like a snowman 717606;1402675033;nubbins`;heh 717607;1402675052;mthreat;but i hope you go in asking for cunt-colored pink 717608;1402675069;mircea_popescu;howdo you even say cunt in this language 717609;1402675072;mthreat;i think the word is "concha" but i'd have to ask around 717610;1402675076;nubbins`;^ 717611;1402675079;los_pantalones;y 717612;1402675079;mthreat;as in "concha de tu madre" 717613;1402675087;mircea_popescu;color cono ? 717614;1402675099;nubbins`;Gotham would be a better font for a text-only card like this 717615;1402675115;mircea_popescu;nubbins` how;s it text only ? 717616;1402675134;nubbins`;glyphs only ;D 717617;1402675145;mircea_popescu;mthreat i think concha is polite, like cock. 717618;1402675168;mircea_popescu;we should go for "fuckstick" or stay home. 717619;1402675195;Mats_cd03;working on someone else's code _and_ having to learn a ui api is a pain in the ass 717620;1402675196;los_pantalones;rosado de cono 717621;1402675197;asciilifeform;fuckport. 717622;1402675204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.87529984 BTC to 8`768 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 717623;1402675212;mthreat;ah ya, looks like "freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4f43a6b3445b9a5aa6bcf173034b7962187151aef339d6f4e604160b 717624;1402675216;mthreat;oops 717625;1402675219;mthreat;damn pbcopy 717626;1402675238;nubbins`;cañón salmón 717627;1402675285;nubbins`;billetera de jamon? 717628;1402675287;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you want gold leaf, have these... pcb etched. 717629;1402675293;mircea_popescu;lmao 717630;1402675296;nubbins`;ooo 717631;1402675307;mircea_popescu;and so i go around with a bag for 100 cards? 717632;1402675308;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: seriously. spec for thinnest flex-leaf pcb 717633;1402675342;asciilifeform;they'll be roughly the thichness of 2 or 3 ordinary cardboards. 717634;1402675400;ThickAsThieves;http://cdn.instructables.com/FXV/180S/GQ5PYP4P/FXV180SGQ5PYP4P.MEDIUM.jpg 717635;1402675415;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: specifically not this 717636;1402675438;nubbins`;haha 717637;1402675446;nubbins`;but it's so classy 717638;1402675469;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform maybe you should spec for a pcb 717639;1402675478;asciilifeform;http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adafruit-flex-perma-proto.png 717640;1402675482;mircea_popescu;S.NSA CTO 717641;1402675495;davout;buy buy buy 717642;1402675505;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i'll stuff it in a gerber for you, if you can crank up the minimal line thickness to 0.2mm 717643;1402675509;xmj;ThickAsThieves: some company at EuroBSDcon last year had 3.5" floppies as 'business cards' 717644;1402675511;davout;has a fetch for old computers 717645;1402675514;davout;sell sell sell 717646;1402675524;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i saw cut cds at sdome point 717647;1402675544;asciilifeform;they're likely to cost ~$5 each, though. 717648;1402675548;asciilifeform;depending on where baked. 717649;1402675596;asciilifeform;no bag needed if you thread a rope through the holes. 717650;1402675641;benkay;uh oh, biglog 717651;1402675643;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/if-youre-one-of-the-numerous-buenos-aires-printing-shops-ill-be-harassing-over-the-day/ 717652;1402675668;nubbins`;hang them on your belt 717653;1402675671;nubbins`;right next to your onions 717654;1402675676;mircea_popescu;lol 717655;1402675680;mircea_popescu;and youyr trusted hammer 717656;1402675754;asciilifeform;not a bad way to cement a reputation for madness 717657;1402676051;*;asciilifeform wonders who the first bozo with scratch-off btc business cards will be 717658;1402676259;nubbins`;haha 717659;1402676260;nubbins`;not bad 717660;1402676607;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00082276 = 24.6828 BTC [-] 717661;1402677322;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/13/bitangels-the-loudest-noise-you-never-did-hear/ 717662;1402677400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2215 = 0.886 BTC [-] 717663;1402677522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34343 @ 0.00081994 = 28.1592 BTC [-] {2} 717664;1402677544;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete lol note 7 makes it. 717665;1402677583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 33 @ 0.0038 = 0.1254 BTC [-] 717666;1402677860;benkay; >I like NastyMining due to how open and honest they are...for BTC securities that is refreshing. Will my shares make me ROI?? Probably not, but I am still pleased with them. Look around in this section and go troll the real scammers...k thanks! // who is this? 717667;1402677867;benkay;mhm 717668;1402677874;benkay;^^ wrong window 717669;1402677899;benkay;ah nm found it 717670;1402678010;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2215 BTC [-] 717671;1402678071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.221 BTC [-] 717672;1402678161;Blazedout419;oh here we go 717673;1402678167;Blazedout419;he is trolling it 717674;1402678195;Blazedout419;benkay that was me 717675;1402678202;Blazedout419;gotta run though 717676;1402678214;benkay;HEY IDIOT COME BACK WE NEED TO NEEDLE YOU MORE 717677;1402678222;benkay;have a good day 717678;1402678236;Blazedout419;OK FLAME ME LATER 717679;1402678479;danielpbarron;;;rated Blazedout419 717680;1402678480;gribble;You rated user Blazedout419 on Sun May 4 23:13:39 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: doesn't understand the WoT; don't trust this user's ratings. 717681;1402678692;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/search-engine-duckduckgo-now-lets-users-check-bitcoin-balances/ ah nice. it used to return nonsensical results 717682;1402678692;assbot;Search Engine DuckDuckGo Now Lets Users Check Bitcoin Balances 717683;1402678697;mike_c;;;rate BingoBoingo 3 mpif manager, decent gambler, good blogger. 717684;1402678699;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded. 717685;1402678742;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00081949 = 17.3732 BTC [-] {2} 717686;1402678950;TheNewDeal;decent gambler... nice 717687;1402679169;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22013973 BTC [-] 717688;1402679413;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00082345 = 27.0915 BTC [+] {4} 717689;1402679840;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07070707 = 0.3535 BTC [+] 717690;1402679924;nubbins`;oh god, this coffee 717691;1402679941;nubbins`;first decent cup i've had in months 717692;1402680023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07070707 = 0.2828 BTC [+] 717693;1402680700;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: devils come to tempt you: http://imgur.com/DaZyTPg,MfVbeHG,0tCxX1m#0 717694;1402680700;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717695;1402680903;TheNewDeal;asciilifeform that was a sweet graphic 717696;1402680911;TheNewDeal;did you make that? 717697;1402680926;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: aye. 5 minutes of wank 717698;1402680981;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: it's a snapshot of gerber mask. if he's crazy enough he could send this out for fab. 717699;1402680998;TheNewDeal;gerber mask? 717700;1402681022;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: pcb photo positives 717701;1402681032;TheNewDeal;ahhh 717702;1402681057;Naphex;hey o/ 717703;1402681060;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 797 @ 0.00226585 = 1.8059 BTC [+] 717704;1402681080;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: well he did say 'no you draw it' 717705;1402681179;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: rope (or keyring, whatever) through the borehole on upper left hand corner. 717706;1402681233;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: he did say 'can anyone make gold leaf on black' - sure. now he can. 717707;1402681681;thestringpuller;nubbins`: you still here sorry I went to lunch I have the payment ready 717708;1402681702;nubbins`;yah, did you see the address? 717709;1402681715;*;nubbins` scrolls back 717710;1402681790;nubbins`;;;calc 25/[ticker --last] 717711;1402681792;gribble;0.0432226832642 717712;1402681799;nubbins`;^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 717713;1402681808;nubbins`;pm me size/address when you're ready 717714;1402681853;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 95 @ 0.02998722 = 2.8488 BTC [-] {2} 717715;1402682280;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22969 @ 0.00081805 = 18.7898 BTC [-] 717716;1402682402;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 130.74760208 BTC to 77`492 shares, 168724 satoshi per share 717717;1402682446;decimation;"fluffypony: when decimation said "test" they weren't voiced, or was my client just being weird" << I actually sent "gpg unauth" to gribble before sending "test" 717718;1402682465;decimation;sorry if that messed with you, I was trying to see if I would be auto-kicked; apparently not 717719;1402682631;danielpbarron;nubbins`, I want one too! 717720;1402682645;danielpbarron;oh, NOW gribble messages me 717721;1402682962;thestringpuller;;;ticker 717722;1402682965;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 580.78, Best ask: 580.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 580.99, 24 hour volume: 36038.91241980, 24 hour low: 550.0, 24 hour high: 619.0, 24 hour vwap: 584.833373188 717723;1402683317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.0708 = 1.2744 BTC [+] 717724;1402683658;benkay;http://imgur.com/8565LBS 717725;1402683658;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 717726;1402683908;nubbins`;i think gribs waits til you speak to deliver your messages 717727;1402683989;nubbins`;danielpbarron: got it, thanks 717728;1402684232;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00081875 = 27.8375 BTC [+] {3} 717729;1402684438;nubbins`;benkay hahahahahahah 717730;1402684691;benkay;hey has anyone done any work estimating mining returns with infinite series? 717731;1402684715;benkay;monte carlo all the butts... 717732;1402684781;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0302497 = 0.3025 BTC [+] 717733;1402684782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00082088 = 20.9324 BTC [+] 717734;1402684903;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00082242 = 16.2839 BTC [+] {2} 717735;1402685208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.03025 = 1.0588 BTC [+] 717736;1402685209;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26676 @ 0.00081709 = 21.7967 BTC [-] {3} 717737;1402685452;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07079 = 0.2832 BTC [+] 717738;1402685574;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8667 @ 0.00082367 = 7.1387 BTC [+] {2} 717739;1402686208;Blazedout419;[12:54pm] <+danielpbarron> ;;rated Blazedout419 717740;1402686213;Blazedout419;lol your ratings are a joke 717741;1402686224;Blazedout419;so far down my list 717742;1402686257;kakobrekla;o look 717743;1402686261;kakobrekla;its the forum investor 717744;1402686265;Blazedout419;;;ratingsystem getrating danielpbarron 717745;1402686265;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask danielpbarron!~dpb@c-71-232-150-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net . User danielpbarron, rated since Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013. Cumulative rating 14, from 19 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 4 negative. Sent ratings: 61 positive, 11 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron 717746;1402686277;Blazedout419;oh look I bought shares a year ago who cares 717747;1402686288;Blazedout419;a whopping 1.5 BTC worth 717748;1402686294;kakobrekla;skinkavaj is that you? 717749;1402686306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0708 = 1.416 BTC [+] 717750;1402686313;Blazedout419;no idea what that means 717751;1402686325;Blazedout419;what amazing service do you run 717752;1402686325;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 717753;1402686336;kakobrekla;indeed 717754;1402686350;Blazedout419;I just mine..not invest so 717755;1402686360;Blazedout419;I do like to keep an eye on this stuff though 717756;1402686373;mike_c;hah! get it? what AMAZING bot does kako run? 717757;1402686380;mike_c;aw. assbot fail. amazing. 717758;1402686380;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 717759;1402686390;kakobrekla;:) 717760;1402686421;TomServo;;;gettrust Blazedout419 assbot 717761;1402686421;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Blazedout419 to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Blazedout419&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014 717762;1402686436;Blazedout419;derp 717763;1402686444;kakobrekla;Blazedout419 you are barley making sense 717764;1402686457;kakobrekla;on the one hand you claim you are not an investor yet 'invested' only x amount 717765;1402686464;Blazedout419;1 investment 717766;1402686467;kakobrekla;then that x amount barely counts as an investment 717767;1402686472;kakobrekla;so which is it 717768;1402686475;Blazedout419;1.5 bitcoins 717769;1402686487;Blazedout419;I like to watch the securities though 717770;1402686503;Blazedout419;it amuses me how people keep buying them with the same result over and over 717771;1402686512;Blazedout419;Nasty is atleast honest 717772;1402686517;kakobrekla;lol 717773;1402686518;Blazedout419;unlike most of the ones I see 717774;1402686522;Blazedout419;like icedrill 717775;1402686526;Blazedout419;that is a train wreck 717776;1402686550;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00082029 = 14.4781 BTC [-] 717777;1402686559;Blazedout419;how is nasty a scam...I must be dense to not see it 717778;1402686566;kakobrekla;you must be. 717779;1402686570;Blazedout419;enlighten the dumb folks 717780;1402686586;kakobrekla;no. 717781;1402686597;Blazedout419;so aka you just troll with no back up 717782;1402686599;Blazedout419;got it 717783;1402686635;Apocalyptic;i don't think kako's trolling 717784;1402686644;Blazedout419;then tell me why it is a scam 717785;1402686658;kakobrekla;tell me how is it not 717786;1402686660;Blazedout419;has it made good priofit = no 717787;1402686660;benkay; Blazedout419 you are barley making sense // wheat are you going on about 717788;1402686672;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 617 @ 0.00082238 = 0.5074 BTC [+] 717789;1402686675;Blazedout419;<+benkay> Blazedout419 you are barley making sense // wheat are you going on about 717790;1402686689;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.5 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/776/ Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 39(Y):61(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.48541412 BTC. Current weight: 64,854. 717791;1402686701;TheNewDeal;yuppp 717792;1402686707;Blazedout419;indeed 717793;1402686732;Namworld;Assuming it offers X for Y and delivers X for Y, even if X for Y is a bad proposition... it's not really a scam if it delivers exactly what someone bought. 717794;1402686749;Namworld;Not sure about Nasty, no clue of the specifics. 717795;1402686757;benkay;did it roi at all? 717796;1402686764;Blazedout419;not for me 717797;1402686767;benkay;all i know is that ognasty was a hxc pirate shill 717798;1402686769;Blazedout419;but that does not make it a scam 717799;1402686785;benkay;;;gettrust ognasty 717800;1402686785;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user ognasty: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=ognasty | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ognasty | Rated since: Sat Sep 1 22:15:19 2012 717801;1402686788;Blazedout419;everything is public with them 717802;1402686789;kakobrekla;ognasty is some retarded pothead with no clue about clue 717803;1402686794;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0708 = 0.708 BTC [+] 717804;1402686803;Blazedout419;kakobrekla how is it a scam 717805;1402686805;benkay;who runs nastymining? 717806;1402686812;Blazedout419;not profitable yes scam = how? 717807;1402686819;kakobrekla;Blazedout419 exercise for alert reader. 717808;1402686819;Blazedout419;OgNasty does 717809;1402686824;danielpbarron;<+Blazedout419> lol your ratings are a joke << the reason I queried my rating of you was to show that I had given you a -1 long before it was discovered that you somehow had enough +1's to get voice in here (as in, not my fault) 717810;1402686848;Blazedout419;I am a good trader...why is it surprising 717811;1402686852;Blazedout419;I am honest 717812;1402686853;Namworld;Well could you all do me a favor and vote on this poll? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650783.0 717813;1402686853;assbot;[POLL] Coinroll Color Scheme 717814;1402686872;danielpbarron;Blazedout419, because you are stupid, and stupid is generally not given voice in here 717815;1402686877;Blazedout419;lol 717816;1402686883;Blazedout419;go thump more bibles 717817;1402686883;kakobrekla;its true. 717818;1402686899;Blazedout419;yeah I am dumb because you say something is a scam with no proof 717819;1402686906;Blazedout419;just explain the scam part 717820;1402686919;Blazedout419;not asking for much here 717821;1402686928;danielpbarron;idk enough about this latest thing, but you are stupid because you don't understand the WoT (according to my rating) 717822;1402686954;Blazedout419;your rating carries 0 weight 717823;1402686959;TheNewDeal;oh my gosh. can't believe someone just bet both sides on the bastille day bet with a weight of like 150 717824;1402686993;danielpbarron;some of my -1s actually prevent users from having voice in here, so i wouldn't call that "0 weight" 717825;1402687009;Blazedout419;you just spam +1's for no reason 717826;1402687028;Blazedout419;anyways i do not care about you or your ratings 717827;1402687033;benkay;Blazedout419: it's a scam in the same way all mining things are scams. 717828;1402687039;benkay;buy also you're getting trolled hard. 717829;1402687042;benkay;but* 717830;1402687044;Blazedout419;indeed 717831;1402687058;Blazedout419;its just a non profitable mining 717832;1402687062;asciilifeform;;;rate Blazedout419 -10 sp4mz0r 717833;1402687063;Blazedout419;not a scam 717834;1402687063;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Blazedout419 has been recorded. 717835;1402687066;Blazedout419;lol 717836;1402687070;Blazedout419;oh noes 717837;1402687109;Blazedout419;now that is a perfect example of someone who does not understand the WoT 717838;1402687160;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.07018809 = 1.4739 BTC [-] {3} 717839;1402687164;benkay;nobody understands the wot ffs 717840;1402687168;benkay;it's got emergent behavior 717841;1402687176;benkay;actors and shit 717842;1402687196;benkay;'agents' 717843;1402687203;Blazedout419;-10 for a convo he has nothing to do with 717844;1402687207;Blazedout419;lol 717845;1402687267;danielpbarron;he apparently doesn't trust you; I wouldn't go as far as to give a -10, but that's just me 717846;1402687275;benkay;;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419 717847;1402687275;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013 717848;1402687282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0698667 = 0.2096 BTC [-] {2} 717849;1402687304;benkay;Blazedout419: i assume asciilifeform wants to shut you up. 717850;1402687308;danielpbarron;need 2 more to -1 him :p 717851;1402687308;Blazedout419;ah 717852;1402687329;danielpbarron;the -10 is limited to a -1 because assbot only gave out +1s 717853;1402687465;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0695 = 0.139 BTC [-] 717854;1402687648;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.07 = 1.47 BTC [+] 717855;1402687679;danielpbarron;lol, asciilifeform just picked up a few more enemies from the gaggle of -otc idiots 717856;1402687691;asciilifeform;;;rate Ssateneth -10 sockmuppet 717857;1402687692;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Ssateneth has been recorded. 717858;1402687707;asciilifeform;;;rate TheButterZone -10 sockmuppet 717859;1402687709;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user TheButterZone has been recorded. 717860;1402687716;danielpbarron;TBZ is like "nope i don't see it in -otc so it must not have happened" 717861;1402687767;asciilifeform;lol 717862;1402687823;benkay;who do S and T sock for? 717863;1402687831;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00081644 = 5.7151 BTC [-] {2} 717864;1402687832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07 = 0.21 BTC [+] 717865;1402687833;benkay;or is this some advanced trolling that's miles above my head 717866;1402687855;pankkake;I hate those "cry to mommy" ratings 717867;1402687865;Blazedout419;i never said a word 717868;1402687871;Blazedout419;they saw ratings and sent back 717869;1402687872;danielpbarron;<+Ssateneth> he needs one more neg rate and he wont be able to rate people << is this true? 717870;1402687878;Blazedout419;yes 717871;1402687895;Blazedout419;all depends on your rating to nano 717872;1402687900;pankkake;now that's actual rating abuse 717873;1402687911;kakobrekla;lol well this is fun 717874;1402687913;danielpbarron;;;gettrust nanotube asciilifeform 717875;1402687913;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask asciilifeform!~asciilife@pool-71-191-53-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user asciilifeform: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=asciilifeform | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=asciilifeform | Rated since: Sun Sep 15 00:06:51 2013 717876;1402687918;Apocalyptic;danielpbarron, some people have the power to prevent others from rating, yes 717877;1402687924;midnightmagic;your transitive rating to nano at a certain level, correct. without trust from nanotube you can't rate. 717878;1402687933;Blazedout419;indeed 717879;1402687947;Blazedout419;i didnt even spam here is the silly part 717880;1402687955;Blazedout419;was asking 1 person about a forum post 717881;1402687958;Apocalyptic;midnightmagic, what's being evaluated is rating from someone in nano's direct trust 717882;1402688013;midnightmagic;yeah, nanotube never put much stock in L3 trust. 717883;1402688022;midnightmagic;So, L2 in buddy's case there. 717884;1402688089;pankkake;;;gettrust assbot Ssateneth 717885;1402688090;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Ssateneth!ident@unaffiliated/ssateneth. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Ssateneth: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Ssateneth | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ssateneth | Rated since: Fri Jul 13 00:36:40 2012 717886;1402688096;assbot;Ssateneth +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 717887;1402688107;danielpbarron;;;rated Ssateneth 717888;1402688107;gribble;You have not yet rated user Ssateneth 717889;1402688110;Blazedout419;!up Ssateneth 717890;1402688122;midnightmagic;Ah I'd forgottent hat syntax. Thanks. 717891;1402688136;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00081643 = 25.5543 BTC [-] 717892;1402688136;Ssateneth;So what sort of shenanigans is going on in here. 717893;1402688158;Blazedout419;not much i got negrated for asking a question about a forum post is all 717894;1402688160;pankkake;so you rated asciilifeform without knowing? 717895;1402688164;Blazedout419;for abuse 717896;1402688171;Ssateneth;I looked at the http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ 717897;1402688172;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 717898;1402688172;pankkake;but how did he know? 717899;1402688176;pankkake;isn't that, you know, abuse 717900;1402688182;Ssateneth;and saw a discussion. No samming. no flooding, nothing. 717901;1402688220;danielpbarron;Ssateneth, i'm pretty sure your rating was put in *before* i linked you to the -assets logs 717902;1402688269;Ssateneth;Just saw some random leave a -10 for "sp4mz0r" which, in itself, sounds ridiculous for a -10, especially with no solid proof in the rating. 717903;1402688285;Ssateneth;Then i checked to make sure it was unwarranted and I was correct. 717904;1402688302;danielpbarron;well if you weren't such a nobody, you'd know that asciilifeform is not "some random" 717905;1402688360;pankkake;I'm pretty sure organizing mass negrates is abusive behavior 717906;1402688368;Blazedout419;who organized anything 717907;1402688381;midnightmagic;just hug it out, everyone will feel better. :) 717908;1402688381;Blazedout419;they saw it and knew i dont spam 717909;1402688397;midnightmagic;+1 oxytocin 717910;1402688408;Blazedout419;hehe 717911;1402688438;*;asciilifeform remembers turning on light in kitchen in old flat, middle of night, all the creepy crawlies came out 717912;1402688442;Ssateneth;I'm looking at the log though. I see a discussion abotu somethign about 1.5 BTC worth fo shares bought a year ago, and stuff about other securities being scams or not. 717913;1402688491;asciilifeform;http://www.informnny.com/media/lib/21/1/3/6/136dce14-6c04-4957-90df-44bb8c6c8190/Story.jpg 717914;1402688491;Blazedout419;whatever im over it...just dont ask in this chan I guess 717915;1402688493;danielpbarron;Ssateneth, what flies in -otc doesn't necessarily fly in -assets 717916;1402688528;Ssateneth;Then someone who wasnt even involved in the discussion comes out of nowhere and -10's with the reason "sp4mz0r" which in itself sounds pretty immature. If it was something like "Spamming in #bitcoin-assets: http://pastebin.com/blahblah" then I probably would have left it alone. 717917;1402688529;assbot;Pastebin.com Unknown Paste ID 717918;1402688547;asciilifeform;;;rate Blazedout419 -10 spamming in #bitcoin-assets. 717919;1402688547;Apocalyptic;dat drama 717920;1402688548;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Blazedout419 has changed from -10 to -10. 717921;1402688552;danielpbarron;lol 717922;1402688553;TomServo;lol 717923;1402688555;pankkake;this is probably the first example of the wot for +v selection failing 717924;1402688572;pankkake;;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419 717925;1402688573;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013 717926;1402688578;danielpbarron;it's easy to see who to blame ^ 717927;1402688581;pankkake;doesn't change anything if you -10 717928;1402688604;asciilifeform;;;rate Blazedout419 -1 spamming in #bitcoin-assets. 717929;1402688606;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Blazedout419 has changed from -10 to -1. 717930;1402688612;Ssateneth;;;unrate asciilifeform 717931;1402688614;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for asciilifeform. 717932;1402688616;asciilifeform;pankkake: ty 717933;1402688632;asciilifeform;;;unrate Ssateneth 717934;1402688633;Ssateneth;Thats more reasonable. I have no qualms with that. 717935;1402688633;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for Ssateneth. 717936;1402688664;kakobrekla;well this worked out nice well. now just to get nubbins and Apocalyptic to unrate ;> 717937;1402688676;kakobrekla;nice and well. 717938;1402688685;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07 = 0.98 BTC [+] 717939;1402688693;Ssateneth;To me, -10 is lke "this guy has definately stolen people's money, and is definately a scumbag you don't want to live near because he'll probably break into your home and steal your valuables" :P 717940;1402688699;Apocalyptic;kako, you forgot nanotube too 717941;1402688731;Ssateneth;Anywho, take care, and stuff. 717942;1402688739;kakobrekla;we will! 717943;1402688763;kakobrekla;Apocalyptic afaik he just needs to lose 2 717944;1402688797;Apocalyptic;oh I may have a misconception about how assbot evaluates +v then 717945;1402688814;kakobrekla;l2 > 0 717946;1402688832;kakobrekla;or l1. 717947;1402688886;TomServo;looks like mrs tick ball on in the action too 717948;1402688929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+] 717949;1402688942;*;asciilifeform bares chest for firing squad 717950;1402689002;kakobrekla;lol 717951;1402689141;kakobrekla;dont worry ascii, its just paint guns. 717952;1402689175;jurov;gentlemen, 717953;1402689310;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: turdschmeissers 717954;1402689319;kakobrekla;lol 717955;1402689357;jurov;lol what i wanted to say? 717956;1402689365;kakobrekla;dunno? 717957;1402689489;mike_c;what you wanted to say was: ladies and gentlemen, 717958;1402689511;mike_c;boys and girls, 717959;1402689541;mike_c;children of ALL ages 717960;1402689600;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 10.12814390 BTC to 29`438 shares, 34405 satoshi per share 717961;1402689783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.02399982 = 0.672 BTC [+] {2} 717962;1402689905;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06999999 = 0.21 BTC [-] 717963;1402689966;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20901 @ 0.00081881 = 17.1139 BTC [+] 717964;1402689966;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06999999 = 0.35 BTC [-] 717965;1402690134;jurov;kakobrekla i want to mass bitbet but it insists i nave to wait for 3 tries.. is there a way around? 717966;1402690254;kakobrekla;hm 717967;1402690258;jurov;can you, say, lift the limit if the payout address had seen some volume previously? 717968;1402690272;kakobrekla;wouldnt be much point if there would be a easy workaround 717969;1402690306;kakobrekla;i raised the limit now so you can do your thing 717970;1402690312;kakobrekla;but temporarily. 717971;1402690324;jurov;above proposal isn't exactly an easy workaround 717972;1402690328;jurov;thx 717973;1402690401;mike_c;i am confused (and curious). what limit are you bumping into? requesting pages? 717974;1402690424;kakobrekla;requesting deposit addresses 717975;1402690454;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 22 @ 0.0500009 = 1.1 BTC [-] {3} 717976;1402690457;mike_c;ah. what's a "3 tries"? 717977;1402690478;jurov;twas a brainfart 717978;1402690485;mike_c;you meant 3 minutes? 717979;1402690492;kakobrekla;no 717980;1402690496;kakobrekla;3 addresses per 45 sec 717981;1402690498;jurov;i wanted to write "i requested 3 bet addresses" 717982;1402690508;mike_c;ah, got it. ty. 717983;1402690521;jurov;i want to send all it in one tx 717984;1402690587;kakobrekla;several idiots made bots to pull as much addresses from bbet as possible 717985;1402690599;kakobrekla;but now when they see that simple limit, they stop 717986;1402690609;asciilifeform;usg cries 717987;1402690610;midnightmagic;that's.. lame. 717988;1402690636;midnightmagic;but it will bloat a wallet into oblivion.. 717989;1402690655;kakobrekla;the funny part it is, it wont. 717990;1402690685;mike_c;you rate limit by ip? 717991;1402690698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9562 @ 0.00081917 = 7.8329 BTC [+] 717992;1402690704;mike_c;(unless you don't want to divulge sekurity measures) 717993;1402690727;midnightmagic;I have a 204MB wallet here that takes > 2min or so to boot up bitcoind on a 32-core server which seems to suggest it can be done. 717994;1402690805;midnightmagic;and then for looser evidence, "I" have a >2GB namecoin wallet which makes namecoin nearly unusable without modifying the source as there appears to be a race condition on ResendWalletTransactions() 717995;1402690820;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 74 @ 0.01501068 = 1.1108 BTC [-] {4} 717996;1402690858;midnightmagic;note: once booted, that bitcoin node with 200MB wallet will operate at full speed. so when I say "bloat it into oblivion" I'm referring to bootup times. 717997;1402690891;jurov;and it needs 200M RLIMIT_LOCKMEM or such 717998;1402690923;jurov;otherwise it just silently drops connections 717999;1402690942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06999989 = 0.7 BTC [-] 718000;1402691104;kakobrekla;200mb wallet, thats decent 718001;1402691196;kakobrekla;thats from some automated service or you did 200 megs of manual 718002;1402691202;kakobrekla;must be a lot of change :) 718003;1402691308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0299 = 0.598 BTC [-] 718004;1402691309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00081631 = 26.8566 BTC [-] {2} 718005;1402691327;kakobrekla;one of my oldest wallets from early 2011 has 6k txes and only 25megs 718006;1402691344;fluffypony;my Electrum wallet.dat is 102 bytes 718007;1402691344;fluffypony;oh well. 718008;1402691369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.06999999 = 4.69 BTC [+] {2} 718009;1402691370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [+] 718010;1402691552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0709 = 0.709 BTC [+] 718011;1402691611;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Wait, there is a levorotary Kansas nao too? Qunatrill must have missed it. 718012;1402691614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0709 = 1.2053 BTC [+] {3} 718013;1402691637;jurov;kakobrekla: i got what i needed, thx 718014;1402691658;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: well, if there's an r-kansas... 718015;1402691698;BingoBoingo;I just hope there isn't a dexkansas 718016;1402691797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07095 = 0.3548 BTC [+] 718017;1402691810;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform but why is the fingerprint over the name 718018;1402691826;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: it isn't. that's a 2-layer composite photo 718019;1402691830;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: click the remaining 2 718020;1402691851;asciilifeform;(top, bottom) 718021;1402691884;mircea_popescu;aok 718022;1402691909;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you're 'mad hatter' enough to have these baked, i'll send you the vectors. 718023;1402691919;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19238 @ 0.00081658 = 15.7094 BTC [+] 718024;1402691920;mircea_popescu;so i bought 1/4 kg of prosciutto from this woman that i don't think has ever sold more than 18 grams at a time 718025;1402691939;mircea_popescu;i also got a box of camembert. INDUSTRIA ARGENTINA 718026;1402691944;mircea_popescu;will do an unboxing later. 718027;1402691979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.071 = 0.426 BTC [+] 718028;1402692040;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.071 = 0.213 BTC [+] 718029;1402692041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02419083 = 0.1451 BTC [+] {2} 718030;1402692047;mircea_popescu;Blazedout419: what amazing service do you run assbot:AMAZING COMPANY! << that was pretty cool lol 718031;1402692047;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 718032;1402692056;mircea_popescu;NOW we know what that was for. all these years... 718033;1402692223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.071 = 1.065 BTC [+] 718034;1402692284;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07095 = 0.9933 BTC [-] 718035;1402692370;asciilifeform;from the lolpharms: http://www.blacklistedbitcoins.com 718036;1402692371;assbot;Blacklisted Bitcoins > Home 718037;1402692421;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: In other news I found the turd that crashed firefox... Gnu Gnash. Firefox somehow installed it as it upgraded. Firefox now when I deign it to run, runs from jail. 718038;1402692439;asciilifeform;lolz, somebody actually uses gnash? 718039;1402692453;mike_c;somebody actually uses flash? 718040;1402692470;mike_c;i thought steve jobs outlawed that 718041;1402692488;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Apparently Nigbuntu bundled it with a firefox uprade. 718042;1402692520;asciilifeform;and they call us (folks who glue own linuxen from toothpicks in bottles) crazy. 718043;1402692524;BingoBoingo;mike_c: But all those classic games where the stick figures fight 718044;1402692547;BingoBoingo;I was insufficiently paranoid. 718045;1402692573;*;BingoBoingo wonders if he can get the lesser Mac, the Mac Classic online... 718046;1402692578;asciilifeform;'Those who do not find time for exercise will have to find time for illness.' 718047;1402692589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.071 = 0.71 BTC [+] 718048;1402692657;BingoBoingo;I guess next week I build a linuxen from toothpicks and take another machine online... 718049;1402692675;kakobrekla;yeah i should do some exercise. 718050;1402692704;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: do yourself favour and use a box with an mmu (yes, abandon stone age, do bronze age at least) 718051;1402692779;BingoBoingo;I'll drink on that possiility this weekend. 718052;1402692955;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.071 = 0.142 BTC [+] {2} 718053;1402693006;BingoBoingo;%book 718054;1402693007;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 718055;1402693016;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.07545454 = 0.83 BTC [+] {10} 718056;1402693109;BingoBoingo;http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/06/iraq-gets-international-help-from-iran/372727/ 718057;1402693110;assbot;Iraq Gets International Help... From Iran - The Wire 718058;1402693187;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 718059;1402693189;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 581.64, Best ask: 582.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 581.64, 24 hour volume: 31598.55053292, 24 hour low: 550.0, 24 hour high: 611.99, 24 hour vwap: 582.871423501 718060;1402693498;mircea_popescu;Namworld: 718061;1402693499;mircea_popescu;Assuming it offers X for Y and delivers X for Y, even if X for Y is a bad proposition... it's not really a scam if it delivers exactly what someone bought. << the guy never said "give us some btc and in two years you can have 40 cents to the bitcoin" 718062;1402693549;mircea_popescu;if thjat were the proposition, then it'd have been just a dumb as fuck deal. even in that case, claiming it's not a scam is marginal, much in the way adding a nuclear device to your doorknob is endangerment, even if you think people shouldn't have fucked with the doorknob. 718063;1402693596;mircea_popescu;but all this is moot in the discussion at hand. nasty is some random dork and Blazedout419 is woefully uneducated. mpex is transparency, go read up on the corps that have been publishing their results each month for the past YEARS and so on. 718064;1402693626;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00082082 = 28.3183 BTC [+] 718065;1402693672;jurov;kako seems i broke bitbet twatter :D 718066;1402693701;mircea_popescu;;;rate ognasty -1 pirate shill ; currently running a "security" that made a 60% loss over two years. a fine example of the scum that unwarrantedly imagines itself somehow part of Bitcoin. 718067;1402693703;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ognasty has been recorded. 718068;1402693814;mircea_popescu;Namworld the original is always best. 718069;1402693856;Mats_cd03;does anyone want to buy my No stake in the spurs bet? 718070;1402693864;Mats_cd03;qq 718071;1402693883;kakobrekla;jurov ? 718072;1402693894;kakobrekla;last bet matches what twitter sez 718073;1402693912;mircea_popescu;!up AlexWkz 718074;1402693950;jurov;kakobrekla: okay, they appeared now 718075;1402693966;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/937/south-korea-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ 718076;1402693966;assbot;BitBet - South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.27 B (51%) on Yes, 0.26 B (49%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 92`292 (100`000 to 10`000) 718077;1402693972;mircea_popescu;apparently soccer bets getting some traction 718078;1402693986;*;jurov giggles 718079;1402694028;kakobrekla;>As bitbet grows more popular, there SHOULD be a greater number of bets imo. And that includes sports. 718080;1402694031;kakobrekla;is this trolling? 718081;1402694047;jurov;no, RFC 718082;1402694054;kakobrekla;:p 718083;1402694103;mircea_popescu;prolly just cookies. 718084;1402694175;kakobrekla;generally i dont like cookies. too dry. 718085;1402694213;mircea_popescu;o yeah, and you're not dry yourself AT ALL 718086;1402694219;mircea_popescu;so this is quite understandable :D 718087;1402694247;kakobrekla;exactly. 718088;1402694308;mircea_popescu;wait i was being sarcastiq 718089;1402694358;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.071 = 0.497 BTC [+] {2} 718090;1402694383;BingoBoingo;Prolly the ultimatum brought some action. Ultimatum or not, I just can't care about any "competition" that usually ends in a draw and hugs for everybody. 718091;1402694422;mircea_popescu;;;rate Ssateneth -10 apparently kiddo thinks himself some sort of rate warlord or something. 718092;1402694424;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Ssateneth has been recorded. 718093;1402694436;kakobrekla;o shit. 718094;1402694448;mircea_popescu;;;later tell thebutterzone suppose you clear asciilifeform and that way i don't have to neg you too. 718095;1402694448;gribble;The operation succeeded. 718096;1402694449;kakobrekla;you gonna make him come back! 718097;1402694501;mircea_popescu;who ? 718098;1402694517;kakobrekla;well everyone at this point. 718099;1402694522;kakobrekla;nvm, carry on. 718100;1402694591;mircea_popescu;cheeky the -otc derps. fucking periphery of the periphery, somehow they imagine themselves central and unique in that. 718101;1402694642;kakobrekla;well theres a whole charade goin on in #bitcoin-ratings :) 718102;1402694664;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.071 = 0.355 BTC [+] 718103;1402694671;mircea_popescu;midnightmagic: your transitive rating to nano at a certain level, correct. without trust from nanotube you can't rate. << good thing they finally moved away from the total rating model, that was silly. 718104;1402694750;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 718105;1402694755;gribble;Time since last block: 17 minutes and 4 seconds 718106;1402694853;mircea_popescu;;;unrate Ssateneth 718107;1402694855;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for Ssateneth. 718108;1402694891;mircea_popescu;;;rate mrstickball -10 apparently kiddo thinks himself some sort of rate warlord or something. 718109;1402694893;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user mrstickball has been recorded. 718110;1402694928;mircea_popescu;!up RainMan28 718111;1402695004;jurov;uh oh bitbet won't replace ref cookie unless user deletes it manually? pure evil 718112;1402695027;jurov;i just bought bingoboingo a beer or two 718113;1402695029;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0719 = 0.2876 BTC [+] 718114;1402695031;mircea_popescu;pankkake: this is probably the first example of the wot for +v selection failing << honestly i don't think so. 718115;1402695041;mircea_popescu;jurov why would it replace cookie tho ? 718116;1402695049;mircea_popescu;how you fight cookie stuffing if it did ? 718117;1402695072;BingoBoingo;ty jurov 718118;1402695090;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07199999 = 0.792 BTC [+] {2} 718119;1402695096;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Ssateneth: 718120;1402695096;mircea_popescu;To me, -10 is lke "this guy has definately stolen people's money, and is definately a scumbag you don't want to live near because he'll probably break into your home and steal your valuables" :P << maybe read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ sometime. 718121;1402695097;assbot;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 718122;1402695097;gribble;(later tell ) -- Tells the next time is in seen. can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. 718123;1402695108;mircea_popescu;gah 718124;1402695122;mircea_popescu;;;later tell Ssateneth: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#717939 << maybe read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ sometime. 718125;1402695123;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 718126;1402695124;assbot;What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 718127;1402695124;gribble;The operation succeeded. 718128;1402695125;jurov;i understand it's better this way, just venting 718129;1402695167;mircea_popescu;jurov: lol what i wanted to say? << jurov caught drunk in the logs ? 718130;1402695212;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2153 BTC [-] 718131;1402695213;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07249999 = 0.145 BTC [+] 718132;1402695228;pankkake;jurov: actually the ref cookie expires at session, I think 718133;1402695230;*;jurov hugs BingoBoingo, starts to sway and sing uneasily 718134;1402695272;jurov;pankkake: it must be persistent, i did not open his ref link today 718135;1402695308;mircea_popescu;jurov: and it needs 200M RLIMIT_LOCKMEM or such << yes that ;/ 718136;1402695313;jurov;yes, it is, i tried 718137;1402695317;BingoBoingo;http://blockr.io/address/info/16wAZSsL8BFNFM8WCsrE8pwwFkhDErWiok 718138;1402695334;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 67 @ 0.21053601 = 14.1059 BTC [-] {12} 718139;1402695365;jurov;hahaha kako spamming teh blockchain 718140;1402695386;BingoBoingo;Now I imagine everyone will check their cookies for the right cookies before betting. 718141;1402695404;kakobrekla;check you cookies before you wreck yourself. 718142;1402695405;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're 'mad hatter' enough to have these baked, i'll send you the vectors. << i'm not. too big (thick, bulky) for my taste. 718143;1402695419;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 718144;1402695422;kakobrekla;but yeah jurov deleting would help 718145;1402695425;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo aff is kinda intended for the peeps that don't even know there's something to check 718146;1402695426;gribble;Time since last block: 28 minutes and 16 seconds 718147;1402695460;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Do those peeps still have coins they aren't buring on Mastersafe and stuff like that? 718148;1402695467;kakobrekla; hahaha kako spamming teh blockchain < yeah at some point somebody will do something about that. 718149;1402695478;mircea_popescu;which peeps yu mean ? 718150;1402695484;jurov;that's gonna be my legacy. first b-a donation address, then this. 718151;1402695493;kakobrekla;lol 718152;1402695517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07249999 = 0.2175 BTC [+] 718153;1402695536;kakobrekla;at least this time its not going to some schmuck 718154;1402695545;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The peeps pete wrote on today. The kind that just might have enough coin to BitBet but burn it because their WoTs are broke. 718155;1402695545;jurov;lol 718156;1402695546;kakobrekla;or is it!? 718157;1402695548;kakobrekla;:D 718158;1402695551;mircea_popescu;did i miss something !? 718159;1402695561;jurov;kako it went to booze 718160;1402695567;kakobrekla;vodka 718161;1402695575;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo they thyemselves do not. the unfortunate noobs that they try to buddy buddy however do. 718162;1402695577;kakobrekla;i guess. 718163;1402695578;BingoBoingo;jurov: No, this is incoming for the blog's sustainment fund. 718164;1402695594;kakobrekla;yeah, that is the vodka BingoBoingo . 718165;1402695597;jurov;we all know with what stuff is the blog sustained 718166;1402695607;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1YMVM1.txt ) 718167;1402695607;BingoBoingo;!b 3 718168;1402695647;BingoBoingo;!up mdev 718169;1402695655;mdev;much thanks 718170;1402695672;mdev;since I was banned in #bitcoin, what's your guys thoughts on the ghash.io and the 51%? 718171;1402695688;BingoBoingo;Well, once this USG dumping is over hopefully come hosting time next year these contributions will go for a nice handle of something while I weld the server shut to drop off at the colo 718172;1402695692;mdev;apparently they've had over 20% for awhile and even at that level they could have done some damage with double spend had they wanted 718173;1402695701;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0725 = 0.29 BTC [+] 718174;1402695743;mircea_popescu;mdev looked @ logs ? 718175;1402695750;BingoBoingo;mdev: Bitcoin is too valuable for ghash.io to do serious damage at 51% plus so long as miners are economically motivated... 718176;1402695774;mdev;bingo that's what I was thinking, plus they're a legit business in london 718177;1402695777;fluffypony;mdev: you got banned from #bitcoin?? lol 718178;1402695779;mdev;no reason to risk that 718179;1402695783;mdev;fluffy yeah a month ban 718180;1402695788;fluffypony;that's hilarious 718181;1402695796;mdev;that channel is so toxic, admins so incredibly abusive lol 718182;1402695798;fluffypony;let me guess...you dared to question someone? 718183;1402695816;mircea_popescu;fluffypony yeah, you know, like Blazedout419 did here :D 718184;1402695820;BingoBoingo;mdev: Ghash fucks up, hopefully enough miners like money to flee. 718185;1402695832;pankkake;keep in mind 51% attack = 51% *attack*. bitcoin relies on the majority of miners being honest 718186;1402695835;mdev;I was having a disagreement about private companies being forced to disclose income, with various other users, and a bitcoin op stealth banned me(used a bot), for apparently a month 718187;1402695838;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: yeah, and nobody banned him 718188;1402695839;Apocalyptic;fluffypony, no, he's actually clueless and a time waster 718189;1402695840;mircea_popescu;also http://37.media.tumblr.com/1d760aafa3afdce5399d1bad0dd1a3cc/tumblr_n5dhn8OBzV1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg 718190;1402695844;Apocalyptic;from what I gathered 718191;1402695872;pankkake;stealth ban = ban but the mod stays anonymous? 718192;1402695885;pankkake;like bitcointalk. wonderful. that's the tool of scammers. 718193;1402695889;mdev;I talked to another op in private about it, and lol...that channel is just not good with them at the helm that insult and put down everything, from andreas, to blockchain.info, to /r/bitcoin to altcoins, list goes on and on 718194;1402695909;mdev;stealth ban yeah another mod had no idea who set it 718195;1402695918;BingoBoingo;http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/zero-moment/lie-lady-profoundly-weird-gender-specific-roots-turing-test 718196;1402695918;assbot;Page Unavailable 718197;1402695933;pankkake;;;gpg info mdev 718198;1402695934;gribble;No such user registered. 718199;1402695937;mircea_popescu; them at the helm that insult and put down everything, from andreas, to blockchain.info, to /r/bitcoin to altcoins, list goes on and on << you know this sounds like cheap copying -assets :D 718200;1402695939;pankkake;you should register 718201;1402695945;mdev;I been banned in there a lot, in the past some ops agreed the ban shouldn't have been set but didn't do anything to lift it! 718202;1402695950;mdev;where do I register again? 718203;1402695959;mdev;looked at your guys blog/site but was confusing 718204;1402695961;pankkake;with gribble 718205;1402695967;mircea_popescu;!up FlyDuch 718206;1402695973;BingoBoingo;http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-pulls-power-ghash-community-uproar/ 718207;1402695974;assbot;BitFury Pulls 1PH/s of Mining Power from Ghash.io Amid Community Uproar 718208;1402695986;pankkake;mdev: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 718209;1402695986;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 718210;1402695996;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo lol what's that, 4% ? 718211;1402696005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0725 = 0.2175 BTC [+] 718212;1402696006;BingoBoingo;Prolly 718213;1402696007;mdev;bitcointalk btw has some of the same mods, at the very least gmaxwell is there 718214;1402696011;pankkake;also, remember when Deepbit was the big bad pool? reddit was all over it too 718215;1402696017;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/8fd9b97f80422c9c193d76beaf90983b/tumblr_n5dh15jV3l1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg schoolgirls too. 718216;1402696033;pankkake;ooh I like that schoolgirl 718217;1402696035;mircea_popescu;pankkake btc guild somehow never was the big bad guild 718218;1402696036;BingoBoingo;Pools rise and fall. 718219;1402696039;mdev;who controls gribble? 718220;1402696040;mircea_popescu;of these three, exactly one did a hardfork 718221;1402696043;mdev;seen him around 718222;1402696048;pankkake;mircea_popescu: oh no it was for a bit too 718223;1402696058;mircea_popescu;on reddit ? or here ? 718224;1402696062;pankkake;on reddit 718225;1402696066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.07263076 = 2.8326 BTC [+] {2} 718226;1402696088;kakobrekla;x Pools rise and fall. < thats true but its incredibly hard to start one these days 718227;1402696096;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bq4ia/for_the_love_of_bitcoin_stop_mining_at_btc_guild/ 718228;1402696097;assbot;For the love of Bitcoin, Stop mining at BTC Guild! - They'll control the network if they reach +50% : Bitcoin 718229;1402696120;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: Well starting a pools takes a lot of coin which really limits the number of people who can do it. 718230;1402696128;mdev;how can btc guild control 50% if ghash.io already controls 51%? 718231;1402696138;BingoBoingo;mdev: Ancient history. 718232;1402696142;mdev;oh 718233;1402696154;kakobrekla;prolly better to own gear than coin in such case. 718234;1402696160;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla why ? 718235;1402696169;kakobrekla;cause pps is dead long ago 718236;1402696175;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13452.0 718237;1402696175;assbot;To all of the deepbit whiners. 718238;1402696182;mircea_popescu;pankkake aite, you got a point 718239;1402696184;BingoBoingo;mdev: It's why going back in the logs and the older parts of the forum is valuable. Many of these things happened before. 718240;1402696194;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla talk to me like im 5 718241;1402696197;mircea_popescu;which i am. 718242;1402696199;kakobrekla;pay per share 718243;1402696217;kakobrekla;that model is no longer feasible 718244;1402696220;mdev;BingoBoingo that's an interesting point, and bitcoin is still standing 718245;1402696234;mdev;so is a non-issue 718246;1402696243;mircea_popescu;why not ? 718247;1402696250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0728 = 0.5096 BTC [+] {3} 718248;1402696251;BingoBoingo;mdev: Ideally it is a self correcting issue. 718249;1402696255;mdev;if ghash abuses everyone will know and they'll be done, they don't control the users hardware anyway 718250;1402696261;mircea_popescu;i thought the earlier 200 btc scandal was over pps 718251;1402696278;kakobrekla;now everyone is on rounds that last x of time 718252;1402696287;kakobrekla;and then spread the blocks found over x rounds 718253;1402696309;kakobrekla;prevents hopping and such. 718254;1402696310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 55 @ 0.0729909 = 4.0145 BTC [+] {2} 718255;1402696320;kakobrekla;pps is too dangerous imho. 718256;1402696326;mdev;why 718257;1402696330;mircea_popescu;o that mixed system, ok. 718258;1402696332;mircea_popescu;so ? 718259;1402696337;pankkake;the difference with ghash.io is that most of their hashrate is also controlled by them 718260;1402696354;pankkake;the solution would be to stop buying that crap cloud mining! 718261;1402696356;mircea_popescu;pankkake and not yet amortised. 718262;1402696362;kakobrekla;so if you dont find block your payouts will still be too irregular and you cant do pps 718263;1402696371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07399248 = 2.2198 BTC [+] {3} 718264;1402696373;mircea_popescu;pankkake but derps want to be part of it EASILY 718265;1402696378;pankkake;what do you mean? they sell it to users, probably at a loss (for the users) 718266;1402696400;kakobrekla;yes 718267;1402696405;mircea_popescu;of course they sell it at aloss to the users 718268;1402696408;kakobrekla;how else would they be 50% 718269;1402696411;mircea_popescu;how else would they sell it lol 718270;1402696413;kakobrekla;if not selling such bs. 718271;1402696437;pankkake;so I don't understand "not yet amortised" 718272;1402696478;mircea_popescu;the gear they use to mine is not yet paid for. 718273;1402696479;kakobrekla;isnt it amortized as soon as its sold 718274;1402696484;kakobrekla;they dont have to buy it back 718275;1402696485;mircea_popescu;!up Dimsler 718276;1402696493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 108 @ 0.07399993 = 7.992 BTC [+] {3} 718277;1402696498;Dimsler;kakobrekla, so what if ghash has majority steak 718278;1402696500;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla the gear they sold is sold. i thought he meant sold hashes, ie, rented gear 718279;1402696501;kakobrekla;they sell you 'vrtual chips' 718280;1402696503;Dimsler;how the hell does that matter 718281;1402696509;Dimsler;what are they going to do? 718282;1402696512;kakobrekla;which then you trade on the market 718283;1402696523;kakobrekla;so once you buy that shit, they are out 718284;1402696528;kakobrekla;just picking the fees. 718285;1402696554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07400199 = 0.37 BTC [+] 718286;1402696568;mircea_popescu;ok, but you understand the cost for 50% of the hash is like... 2 to 500k btc 718287;1402696576;mircea_popescu;they've sold "virtual chips" to forum derps for 500-1k btc 718288;1402696577;Dimsler;lol 718289;1402696578;mircea_popescu;what of it 718290;1402696601;kakobrekla;im not arguing anything here 718291;1402696615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0747 = 0.747 BTC [+] 718292;1402696624;kakobrekla;brb 718293;1402696645;mdev;who owns http://bitcoin-otc.com/ ? 718294;1402696645;assbot;#bitcoin-otc 718295;1402696651;pankkake;mdev: nanotube 718296;1402696725;mdev;dang you guys really invested in #bitcoin stuff huh 718297;1402696733;mdev;same bot, same tech, same owners stuff 718298;1402696737;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00081945 = 15.6925 BTC [-] 718299;1402696825;mircea_popescu;mdev there's a world out there made of agglomerated shitheads, who imagine themselves innovators and revolutionaries, but in practice live out of not-invented-here syndrome and bad pr. 718300;1402696841;mircea_popescu;the world in here is quite opposite. if someone does something well everyone breathes a sigh of relief and uses it. 718301;1402696848;FlyDuch;guys can i sell btc for ltc here 718302;1402696850;mircea_popescu;because life's too short to re-do all the shit all the time 718303;1402696861;pankkake;!down FlyDuch 718304;1402696865;mircea_popescu;FlyDuch if you can find someone who cares to 718305;1402696867;mircea_popescu;!up FlyDuch 718306;1402696879;mircea_popescu;best use gribble's sale function. 718307;1402696883;mdev;just putting a lot of trust in nanotube, i've never seen really the guy talk but I think he owns gribble as well, and is founder of #bitcoin as well 718308;1402696893;mircea_popescu;he's trustworthy. 718309;1402696913;pankkake;I don't trust him, and I backup the otc db :) 718310;1402696981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0747 = 1.1205 BTC [+] 718311;1402697006;fluffypony;FlyDuch: #bitcoin-otc is probably a better venue 718312;1402697103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07478 = 0.3739 BTC [+] 718313;1402697210;pankkake;FlyDuch: why wouldn't you use one of the many exchanges to do that? 718314;1402697225;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00081944 = 13.8485 BTC [-] {2} 718315;1402697292;Apocalyptic;he's a scammer probably 718316;1402697307;pankkake;yes, but since he was !uped back, I'm biting :) 718317;1402697328;Apocalyptic;I guess mircea is running low on entertainment tonight :) 718318;1402697392;mircea_popescu;i'm just reactively tolerant 718319;1402697416;mircea_popescu;the truth of the matter is that i don't have an actual personality, i just do the opposite of what y'all are doing. 718320;1402697424;mircea_popescu;so if you're all drama llamas i'ma just be mellow. 718321;1402697460;kakobrekla;basically he thinks we are dumb. 718322;1402697487;mircea_popescu;wait wut ? 718323;1402697530;kakobrekla;well if you are doing the opposite of something you prolly are not in agreement with it 718324;1402697550;pankkake;!up mdev 718325;1402697558;mdev;ty 718326;1402697579;mircea_popescu;or maybe i just like living interesting times. 718327;1402697596;kakobrekla;maybe. or the other thing. 718328;1402697649;mircea_popescu;generally, i rarely think someone is as smart as they think themselves. similarly, i rarely think someone is as dumb as they think themselves. so there :D 718329;1402697652;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23979 @ 0.00081833 = 19.6227 BTC [-] {2} 718330;1402697697;mircea_popescu;;;unrate mrstickball 718331;1402697699;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for mrstickball. 718332;1402697706;kakobrekla;ok. i could go on but i rather wont. :) 718333;1402697750;mircea_popescu;lol that asciilifeform - Blazedout419 situation de-escalated quickly. 718334;1402697760;kakobrekla;is it over nao? 718335;1402697761;mircea_popescu;you know, back in the 2011 days something like this'd have raged for a week 718336;1402697770;mircea_popescu;i think wot has come a lengthy road. 718337;1402697774;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla pretty much 718338;1402697781;kakobrekla;good 718339;1402698110;TheButterZone;;;rated asciilifeform 718340;1402698111;gribble;You have not yet rated user asciilifeform 718341;1402698244;mircea_popescu;hey there. 718342;1402698265;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nao you unrate TheButterZone 718343;1402698385;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0745 = 0.6705 BTC [-] 718344;1402698419;Blazedout419;it was never a situtation really 718345;1402698428;Blazedout419;he just neg rated me for who only knows why 718346;1402698453;Blazedout419;I was just asking a few questions...then it got crazy in here :p 718347;1402698485;mircea_popescu;Blazedout419 it was honestly undistinguishable from trollage you gotta appreciate. 718348;1402698507;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07478 = 0.2991 BTC [+] 718349;1402698514;Blazedout419;Well sorry if it came off that way, but that is the first time i have ever been called a troll 718350;1402698531;Blazedout419;I was talking to kakobrekla anyways not asciilifeform 718351;1402698536;mircea_popescu;which is why i was so weirded out. 718352;1402698546;Blazedout419;random -10 718353;1402698556;Blazedout419;lol maybe he is having a bad day...dunno 718354;1402698595;mircea_popescu;you ever seen reservoir dogs ? 718355;1402698600;Blazedout419;yep 718356;1402698607;Blazedout419;why do i have to be mr pink? 718357;1402698620;mircea_popescu;pretty much somethging like that 718358;1402698628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.0749648 = 4.0481 BTC [+] {6} 718359;1402698630;Blazedout419;fair enough 718360;1402698649;mircea_popescu;"Joe: No way, no way. Tried it once, doesn't work. You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow." 718361;1402698665;Blazedout419;lolz 718362;1402698811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.075 = 0.975 BTC [+] 718363;1402698872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00082104 = 9.6472 BTC [+] {2} 718364;1402698897;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651315.msg7298625#msg7298625 718365;1402698897;assbot;Hall of Shame: Vote for your Favorite Worst Crypto-CEO's Ever!! 718366;1402698901;fluffypony;lol 718367;1402698908;mircea_popescu;i would hope mpoe-pr is in there ? 718368;1402698933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 111 @ 0.07456196 = 8.2764 BTC [-] {7} 718369;1402698982;mircea_popescu;wtf is btcquick again ? 718370;1402699073;fluffypony;ascension 718371;1402699116;fluffypony;jerrod something or other 718372;1402699162;fluffypony;this Mimex listing confuses me 718373;1402699179;fluffypony;they list a developer under their "management team" 718374;1402699182;fluffypony;what is he managing? 718375;1402699211;fluffypony;also, how can they have a PR person on Bitcointalk without said PR person also being listed in their "management team" alongside the developer? 718376;1402699222;mircea_popescu;pr isn't management is it 718377;1402699230;fluffypony;neither is "developer" 718378;1402699238;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 120 @ 0.07036589 = 8.4439 BTC [-] {5} 718379;1402699255;fluffypony;the "lead developer" maybe, by some definition of management I'm unfamiliar with 718380;1402699285;mircea_popescu;i suppose if you have a tech run a team of techs he's technically management now 718381;1402699296;mircea_popescu;sorta like the ex surgeon now hospital director 718382;1402699299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0739998 = 0.148 BTC [+] {2} 718383;1402699726;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02419499 = 0.2419 BTC [+] 718384;1402699971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] 718385;1402700031;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51845 @ 0.00082224 = 42.629 BTC [+] {4} 718386;1402700093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07388958 = 0.5911 BTC [+] 718387;1402700153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.074 = 1.85 BTC [+] 718388;1402700214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.075 = 7.5 BTC [+] 718389;1402700336;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.023402 = 0.117 BTC [-] {2} 718390;1402700353;benkay;;;rate ognasty -1 pirate/BCST shill 718391;1402700355;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ognasty has been recorded. 718392;1402700399;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0202 = 0.101 BTC [+] 718393;1402700458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 93 @ 0.075 = 6.975 BTC [+] {2} 718394;1402700685;benkay;;;gettrust benkay 718395;1402700686;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user benkay to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 19 via 14 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 718396;1402700854;mike_c;dumb question: is there any way to cryptographically prove you signed something on a certain date. 718397;1402700953;mircea_popescu;mike_c include the date. 718398;1402700984;mike_c;but i could sign something today with june 1st in it. 718399;1402701029;mike_c;i don't think there is, but thought i'd ask to make sure i wasn't missing some clever trick. 718400;1402701037;mircea_popescu;sure there's plenty depending what you want. 718401;1402701043;mircea_popescu;if you want to declare the date being x, include the date. 718402;1402701054;mircea_popescu;if you want to prove the date is no earlier than X, include a block hash say. 718403;1402701068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+] 718404;1402701069;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 8 @ 0.042 = 0.336 BTC 718405;1402701081;fluffypony;do it old school 718406;1402701082;mike_c;yeah, that works going that way. i need to go the other though. 718407;1402701092;fluffypony;selfie of you holding the newspaper for that day 718408;1402701095;fluffypony;:-P 718409;1402701102;mircea_popescu;Block #305659 Hash0000000000000000118b4c104bd3cdf62ddcbcfdcb66af97aadff2116e86a842 could not be known pre 2014-06-13 23:ish 718410;1402701115;mike_c;like, i want to be able to say today "here is proof that I signed this on June 1st, not June 13th" 718411;1402701127;mircea_popescu;to prove you signed it no later than X, publish it on the record date. 718412;1402701129;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 190 @ 0.002 = 0.38 BTC 718413;1402701130;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00082407 = 28.9249 BTC [+] {2} 718414;1402701133;fluffypony;!up mdev 718415;1402701138;mdev;thankyou! 718416;1402701159;mdev;but yeah as other have said the problem with date is you can set it to what you want, so only way to confirm the date is used a 3rd party someone trusts 718417;1402701165;mdev;or various I suppose 718418;1402701189;mike_c;ah, so, like stuff something in the blockchain 718419;1402701202;fluffypony;mike_c: that's the other option 718420;1402701218;mircea_popescu;mike_c blockchain, here, whatever. 718421;1402701222;fluffypony;or pastebin 718422;1402701222;mdev;bitcoin trusts no ones date, they don't use dates they use difficulty I think 718423;1402701223;mircea_popescu;your blog for that matter. 718424;1402701229;mdev;and try and average solving to 10 minutes 718425;1402701232;fluffypony;dependent on your penchance for risk 718426;1402701239;fluffypony;!down mdev 718427;1402701239;mdev;even though it's gone over an hour before... 718428;1402701251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.075 = 0.975 BTC [+] 718429;1402701267;fluffypony;mike_c: what sort of longevity do you need on it? 718430;1402701303;kakobrekla;are you thinking carbon dating? 718431;1402701308;fluffypony;lol 718432;1402701314;mike_c;well, basically what i said. i want to be able to say "here's the signed statement. here is incontravertible proof i have not mucked with it since XX date" 718433;1402701318;fluffypony;[01:15:01] mdev: your abuse won't be tolerated 718434;1402701319;fluffypony;lol 718435;1402701366;fluffypony;mike_c: pastebin it (pastebin keeps the date) + dump the signature here 718436;1402701384;fluffypony;even if pastebin disappears you have a copy, and the signature can be verified by any of us that keep logs 718437;1402701391;mike_c;log.b-a or my blog still requires trust. blockchain doesn't, but i'm not a fan of abusing chain for this kind of stuff. pastebin i guess works. nobody would believe they were in on the scamz. 718438;1402701432;fluffypony;yeah but you forget 718439;1402701436;fluffypony;log.b-a isn't the only log 718440;1402701446;fluffypony;I log, and I'm sure dozens of others do 718441;1402701451;kakobrekla;theres the way-back-machine 718442;1402701458;kakobrekla;you can prolly leverage that 718443;1402701470;fluffypony;oh yes good point kakobrekla - you can add a link to archive.org on a particular date 718444;1402701491;mike_c;that thing still works? impressive. 718445;1402701494;mircea_popescu;still requires trusty 718446;1402701507;mircea_popescu;the thing is, the hardcore future problem is not resolvable, as entropy only goes one way 718447;1402701512;mircea_popescu;and so information accumulates. 718448;1402701522;fluffypony;mike_c: upload it to Maidsafe! 718449;1402701528;mircea_popescu;you can prove you know something and so establish it one way, but you can't prove you didn't know something. 718450;1402701544;mike_c;not 100% resolvable, but blockchain stuffing comes close. 718451;1402701556;mircea_popescu;actually stuffing it here is probably better. 718452;1402701564;mircea_popescu;blocks reorg. how do you know you won't end up on a dead chain 718453;1402701576;kakobrekla;you wait 6 confs. 718454;1402701577;kakobrekla;duh 718455;1402701632;mike_c;the thing is, it depends who you are "proving" to. since i am a b-a lackey, clearly i could get the logs mucked with. and nobody is going to care that fluffypony's copy agrees with it. 718456;1402701645;fluffypony;yeah I suppose 718457;1402701649;fluffypony;you could've paid us all 718458;1402701652;mircea_popescu;it's on the web lol. 718459;1402701665;mircea_popescu;but anyway, since you're in bitcoin, clearly you could have the blockchain mucked. 718460;1402701676;mike_c;true. i do own ghash. 718461;1402701733;mircea_popescu;anyway, the problem as stated is unresolvable. as the future includes the past, you can't by yourself prove you were anterior to a point. only ulteriority can be proven that hardcore 718462;1402701740;asciilifeform;;;unrate TheButterZone 718463;1402701741;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for TheButterZone. 718464;1402701745;mircea_popescu;which incidentally coallesces into a very strong attack on IP 718465;1402701766;mike_c;yes, you can only provide evidence, not proof. 718466;1402701771;mircea_popescu;and also explains history. 718467;1402701779;mircea_popescu;the original impetuus driving herodotus was his own identity. 718468;1402701802;mircea_popescu;namely, proving he was there by including descriptions of events, which establishes his presence. 718469;1402701844;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/eligius-please-pay-my-200-btc.328351 << dude the amateur law&order bullshit going on in that thread is beyond the pale. 718470;1402701844;assbot;==== Eligius, please pay my 200+ BTC ==== | Bitcointa.lk 718471;1402701861;mircea_popescu;if your average us citizen got to run as much as a chicken coop... woe on those chickens. 718472;1402701911;mircea_popescu;"Yeah. I was just kind of wondering how much trouble it could cause if hundreds of people internationally started contacting his government demanding action to investigate his bitcoin involvement and possible unethical activities." 718473;1402701926;mircea_popescu;this would be your random shitstain wanting to be "anonymous". 718474;1402701978;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: too big (thick, bulky) for my taste << thought was, use elastomer, 0.4mm or so. but, sure, it'd be an amazing waste. 718475;1402701978;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 718476;1402702009;*;asciilifeform wouldn't, but likes carrying thought experiments to logical conclusion. 718477;1402702011;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform paper is a tenth that. 718478;1402702105;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.075 = 2.25 BTC [+] 718479;1402702227;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.0749625 = 5.997 BTC [-] {3} 718480;1402702320;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: nein. http://imgur.com/Jhmfp3B 718481;1402702321;assbot;Nein! - Imgur 718482;1402702394;mike_c;!up mdev 718483;1402702410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.075 = 2.1 BTC [-] 718484;1402702436;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol 718485;1402702492;*;asciilifeform couldn't resist 718486;1402702504;mircea_popescu;;;calc .4 / .34 718487;1402702505;gribble;1.17647058824 718488;1402702505;mircea_popescu;:D 718489;1402702532;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.075 = 3.45 BTC [-] 718490;1402702568;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/ICkWjdQuK7Q 718491;1402702568;assbot;Brian Hyland - Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - YouTube 718492;1402702587;asciilifeform;incidentally 'mitutoyo' makes a perfectly acceptable Schtangen-zirkul. 718493;1402702644;mircea_popescu;zirkel ? 718494;1402702654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0755 = 1.057 BTC [+] 718495;1402702662;asciilifeform;aye 718496;1402702677;asciilifeform;even comes with calibration certs 718497;1402702686;asciilifeform;(how many consumer widgets do?) 718498;1402702715;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 132 @ 0.02990076 = 3.9469 BTC [-] {4} 718499;1402703020;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0755 = 0.906 BTC [+] {2} 718500;1402703081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.0750021 = 7.5002 BTC [-] {3} 718501;1402703210;benkay;!up mdev 718502;1402703325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.07500001 = 4.5 BTC [-] {2} 718503;1402703344;kakobrekla;he got pissed how this nanotube challenge is stupid, life is unfair and blah blah 718504;1402703354;kakobrekla;ragequit. 718505;1402703359;benkay;who, mdev? 718506;1402703368;kakobrekla;yes 718507;1402703384;teward;he got banned for those antics in other channels, if my memory serves me right... 718508;1402703386;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.07500001 = 4.875 BTC [-] 718509;1402703390;teward;(he as in mdev) 718510;1402703400;asciilifeform;challenge? 718511;1402703455;kakobrekla;his words. 718512;1402703521;kakobrekla;you should remove the !up thing, it's an annoying system 718513;1402703521;kakobrekla;you're giving everyone with voice the ability to up/down voice everyone who hasn't gone through the nanotube challenge 718514;1402703530;kakobrekla;thar. 718515;1402703545;teward;the 'nanotube challenge'... he's talking about the OTC auth system isn't he... 718516;1402703571;kakobrekla;shit, even Blazedout419 made it... 718517;1402703630;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0755 = 0.755 BTC [+] 718518;1402703874;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00081634 = 24.5718 BTC [-] {3} 718519;1402703874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0755 = 0.453 BTC [+] 718520;1402703969;Blazedout419;lol'd 718521;1402704217;thestringpuller;%ticker 718522;1402704218;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 250 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 718523;1402704345;thestringpuller;%depth 718524;1402704600;asciilifeform;;;later tell BingoBoingo: while I weld the server shut to drop off at the colo << if you don't already own one, a very usable spot-welder can be made from the ubiquitous 1F+ capacitors sold for use with automotive 'boom-booms.' 718525;1402704601;gribble;The operation succeeded. 718526;1402704677;asciilifeform;;;later tell BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kwpQbVHBo << illustrated. 718527;1402704677;assbot;Capacitor Welder - Battery tab Welder part 1-2 - YouTube 718528;1402704677;gribble;The operation succeeded. 718529;1402704804;asciilifeform;phun phact: when the seekrit skvirrels in wash. dc weld the manholes shut prior to Fhrer-motorcade, they just spot-weld little tabs. 718530;1402704837;asciilifeform;(how i know? they don't always remember to... take them off.) 718531;1402704885;*;asciilifeform didn't believe the legend of them actually doing this, until seeing the tabs. they look like pull tabs from soda cans. 718532;1402704897;Mats_cd03;http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/06/opinion-analysis-the-triumph-of-the-lanham-act-and-of-federal-private-rights-of-action/ 718533;1402704899;assbot;Opinion analysis: The triumph of the Lanham Act (and of federal private rights of action) : SCOTUSblog 718534;1402705583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.075 = 0.525 BTC [-] {2} 718535;1402705752;asciilifeform;http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/11/manhole.jpg 718536;1402705762;asciilifeform;^ turns out they used to do proper welds? 718537;1402705787;mircea_popescu;i dunno what the fuss is all about 718538;1402705805;mircea_popescu;so someone kills the president. big deal, bout 50mn unemployed lawyers ready to take over 718539;1402705824;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: imponade. 718540;1402705826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0753 = 0.3012 BTC [+] {2} 718541;1402705863;asciilifeform;;;google imponator imponade 718542;1402705863;gribble;Loper OS » The Wisdom of Erik Naggum: ; fogus: The iPad as the Ultimate Imponator: ; Erik Naggum - Wikiquote: 718543;1402705866;asciilifeform;damn. 718544;1402705932;asciilifeform;(it's dumb, of course. a shaped-charge would plasma-jet through the cover, like butter.) 718545;1402706253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07475 = 0.3738 BTC [-] 718546;1402706258;mircea_popescu;lol top ofthe stack 718547;1402706271;asciilifeform;it gets rather annoying. 718548;1402706288;asciilifeform;almost like inhabiting some sort of solipsist hell 718549;1402706324;mircea_popescu;well what else is paradise. 718550;1402706328;asciilifeform;lol 718551;1402706615;mircea_popescu;"something important happens when a previously privileged position in society suddenly sees incredibly demand that needs to be filled, using enormous quantities of manpower. that happened to programming computers about a decade ago, or maybe two. first, the people will no longer be super dedicated people, and they wont be as skilled or even as smart what was once dedication is replaced by greed and sometimes she 718552;1402706615;mircea_popescu;er need as the motivation to enter the field. second, an unskilled labor force will want job security more than intellectual challenges (to some the very antithesis of job security). third, managing an unskilled labor force means easy access to people who are skilled in whatever is needed right now, not an investment in people which leads to the conclusion that a programmer is only as valuable as his ability to get 718553;1402706616;mircea_popescu;another job fast. fourth, when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most there is no longer a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual winner, and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory." 718554;1402706619;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00081686 = 15.1119 BTC [+] 718555;1402706631;mircea_popescu;the issues of "entrepreneurship" as practiced by the circus could not be better described. 718556;1402706655;mircea_popescu;incidentally, this is genius : writing things that are correct as you write them, and then stay correct as later readers apply them to circumstances you could not have foreseen. 718557;1402706693;mircea_popescu;this is what makes shakespeare relevant, today as in his time. this is also what makes marc andreessen irrelevant today, and permanently. 718558;1402706712;benkay;we were talking about this in the context of programming user interfaces earlier today. "programmers are just so resistant to formalizing and writing down their problems, preferring instead to just hack at their computers until the have something that sort of works". 718559;1402706728;benkay;"well of course! there's no IDE for pencil and paper." 718560;1402706732;asciilifeform;whatever else could be said about herr naggum - the man had actual thoughts. 718561;1402706786;asciilifeform;and he dealt with problems that are rather familiar to us, if superficially unrelated. 718562;1402706820;mircea_popescu;the problems of democracy. 718563;1402706967;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ladies-and-gentlewomen-this-is-the-buttman/ 718564;1402707062;asciilifeform;lol re: lever lock keys 718565;1402707074;asciilifeform;soviet import? 718566;1402707089;mircea_popescu;they prolly bought the machines 718567;1402707095;mircea_popescu;in 1991 718568;1402707107;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.0753 = 3.2379 BTC [+] {2} 718569;1402707118;asciilifeform;funny part is, betcha no one alive remembers how to pick these. 718570;1402707140;mircea_popescu;im sure here they do 718571;1402707168;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.07547142 = 2.6415 BTC [+] {2} 718572;1402707211;asciilifeform;experience not so different from tasting WD-40 << mircea_popescu clearly tasted the local 'cheese' in usa 718573;1402707229;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.04405928 = 0.6609 BTC [-] 718574;1402707230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 88 @ 0.07687272 = 6.7648 BTC [+] {3} 718575;1402707286;mircea_popescu;:p 718576;1402707351;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.0775 = 3.875 BTC [+] 718577;1402707412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07999999 = 0.96 BTC [+] 718578;1402707486;dignork;asciilifeform: do you see a problem with usb-to-usb gadget which will make usb guest read-only? 718579;1402707508;dignork;it seems rather trivial gadget, but i've never seen it implemented so far 718580;1402707534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 112 @ 0.07999999 = 8.96 BTC [+] {3} 718581;1402707538;asciilifeform;dignork: it's a useful gadget. i have one. 718582;1402707555;asciilifeform;gotta implement the mass storage command stack on both ends - a bit of a bitch 718583;1402707577;dignork;asciilifeform: bought it or built it? 718584;1402707591;asciilifeform;built. 718585;1402707595;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00081601 = 4.6105 BTC [-] 718586;1402707595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.0812 = 2.1924 BTC [+] 718587;1402707625;dignork;might be a nice additional product for S.NSA imho 718588;1402707656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 87 @ 0.08195976 = 7.1305 BTC [+] {3} 718589;1402707690;asciilifeform;dignork: cardano comes with wp dip 718590;1402707717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.08728505 = 5.499 BTC [+] {6} 718591;1402707778;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.08838 = 4.0655 BTC [+] {3} 718592;1402707817;asciilifeform;i kinda suspect that usb disk wp is one of those gizmos that everyone who needs - already has. 718593;1402707839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08838 = 0.1768 BTC [+] {2} 718594;1402707892;asciilifeform;for those who don't - many (traditional spindle) drives still have wp jumpers. bring it out to a toggle. 718595;1402707931;dignork;asciilifeform: i understand the implementation complexity (not too bad), and just wonder how come it's not a marketed thing. 718596;1402707939;asciilifeform;there are really not many applications that will behave well with this. 718597;1402707968;asciilifeform;(try booting any os - not patched for this purpose - from a wp'd disk, see what i mean here) 718598;1402708041;asciilifeform;incidentally, there are commercial incarnations of this. used by official disk diddlers: 718599;1402708045;asciilifeform;;;google write blocker 718600;1402708046;gribble;Computer Forensics Write Blockers - Digital Intelligence: ; Write Blockers - Forensics Wiki: ; Forensic disk controller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 718601;1402708057;dignork;but there is much more common use-case, gave a usb disk to colleague to copy a movie w.e, now i need to reformat it... 718602;1402708092;asciilifeform;sha256sum /dev/sdwhateverthefuck > hash.txt 718603;1402708122;dignork;or this 718604;1402708187;asciilifeform;a more interesting fact is that, if you open a consumer usb turd that has a wp toggle, it is - afaik - never connected to the flash rom proper 718605;1402708208;asciilifeform;but to the microcontroller, which gives os (winblows naturally) an ignorable 'pretty please don't write.' 718606;1402708249;asciilifeform;(why? ask the folks responsible, not me...) 718607;1402708277;dignork;cheaper than to add usb-to-usb host with additional logic 718608;1402708286;asciilifeform;nope 718609;1402708293;asciilifeform;no need to add another micro 718610;1402708301;asciilifeform;every flash rom comes with a 'we' pin 718611;1402708302;dignork;re: booting, if gizmo emulates CD-ROM it might work 718612;1402708324;asciilifeform;dignork: sandisk used to make a line of usb micros called 's3', that had this feature 718613;1402708328;asciilifeform;no longer sold 718614;1402708337;asciilifeform;but they're still common 718615;1402708358;asciilifeform;strike that 718616;1402708359;asciilifeform;U3 718617;1402708365;asciilifeform;http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/ 718618;1402708366;assbot;u3_tool - Tool for controlling U3 drives 718619;1402708374;dignork;U3 had wp? I had one, no switch 718620;1402708387;dignork;no hardware switch i mean 718621;1402708389;asciilifeform;no switch. but has magic partition that enumerates as cdrom 718622;1402708405;asciilifeform;writeable with that tool only 718623;1402708456;asciilifeform;so, not really hardware wp. kernel level turd can (and will) diddle an u3 partition 718624;1402708467;asciilifeform;but for 'civilian' use, adequate 718625;1402708499;asciilifeform;afaik, u3 was phased out because win-xp will autorun any volume that mounts as optical disk, to this day. 718626;1402708525;asciilifeform;i've a 'you could have been owned' stick i like to lend to xp users. 718627;1402708536;asciilifeform;(pops up happy box) 718628;1402708577;asciilifeform;it, incidentally, isn't a u3 stick. but a much earlier (circa '03?) chipset for which i found docs 718629;1402708594;asciilifeform;likewise enumerates as optical disk. 718630;1402708601;dignork;neat, it had password protection 718631;1402708663;asciilifeform;good gift for folks contemplating but not yet escaped from microshit. 718632;1402708732;asciilifeform;for the innocent: most usb flash drives have reprogrammable micros, with various amounts of code space. 718633;1402709303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0203299 = 0.1626 BTC [+] 718634;1402709406;davout;"The first thing they could do would be to double-spend already confirmed transactions. For example, they could send some bitcoins to an exchange, trade them for dollars, wire the dollars to their bank account, and then announce a longer blockchain where the transfer to the exchange never happened. Now they have dollars and bitcoins." <<< such braindamage 718635;1402709423;davout;https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/06/13/centralized-mining/ 718636;1402709424;assbot;Bitcoin Foundation 718637;1402709457;davout;oh shit, it's actually the second part that's retarded 718638;1402709458;davout;"There are some practical problems with carrying out that attack, though. They are likely to get caught, because it is impossible to wire money to a bank account anonymously. It seems very likely they would find themselves in legal trouble for defrauding the exchange." 718639;1402709646;dub;I like the css on that page, makes the blue hyperlink text not actually be a link 718640;1402709852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-] 718641;1402709974;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] 718642;1402710035;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-] 718643;1402710218;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0763 = 0.2289 BTC [-] {2} 718644;1402710584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07541622 = 0.2262 BTC [-] {2} 718645;1402710951;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00081686 = 4.6561 BTC [+] {2} 718646;1402711011;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07899986 = 0.316 BTC [+] {2} 718647;1402711072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07999989 = 0.64 BTC [+] 718648;1402711194;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0799949 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2} 718649;1402711316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.079 = 0.711 BTC [-] 718650;1402712292;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0750008 = 0.375 BTC [-] {2} 718651;1402712414;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0750001 = 0.15 BTC [-] {2} 718652;1402712597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00081722 = 40.3707 BTC [+] {2} 718653;1402713268;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.076 = 0.152 BTC [+] {2} 718654;1402713402;nubbins`;what's all this about me unrating 718655;1402713514;nubbins`;oh, Blazedout419 718656;1402713519;nubbins`;;;rated Blazedout419 718657;1402713520;gribble;You rated user Blazedout419 on Sun Mar 2 12:59:46 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: trusted trader. 718658;1402713522;nubbins`;^ 718659;1402713817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07391166 = 0.3696 BTC [-] {2} 718660;1402714122;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.076495 = 0.306 BTC [+] {3} 718661;1402714488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07489994 = 0.2996 BTC [-] {3} 718662;1402714629;asciilifeform;unrelated to anything whatsoever: http://lamat.me 718663;1402714629;assbot;Lamat - Log 718664;1402714970;asciilifeform;e.g. http://lamat.me/video/BD.html 718665;1402714971;assbot;Breathing Dildo 718666;1402715037;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21155 = 0.4231 BTC [+] {2} 718667;1402715098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.211 = 0.633 BTC [-] 718668;1402715158;dignork;asciilifeform: http://www.myresearch.lt/blog/time/time.phtml 718669;1402715158;assbot;Measurement of changes of relative time density - Blog of Aleksey Zaitsevsky 718670;1402715159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07499285 = 1.0499 BTC [+] {2} 718671;1402715179;asciilifeform;that one's classic, tried it myself 718672;1402715182;asciilifeform;(same neg result) 718673;1402715198;asciilifeform;'Was born in february of 1979 in city Kiev (the USSR), grew disobedient. Favourite toys: designer's sets and matches.' 718674;1402715281;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00081661 = 13.8007 BTC [-] 718675;1402716196;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC [-] {2} 718676;1402716440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.075 = 0.3 BTC [+] 718677;1402716623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] 718678;1402716667;mircea_popescu; i kinda suspect that usb disk wp is one of those gizmos that everyone who needs - already has. << not so. 718679;1402716745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.075 = 1.05 BTC [+] 718680;1402716780;mircea_popescu;!up jeff___ 718681;1402716820;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: as i eventually found out - device in its simplest form (simply deny write) - is commercially available (if expensive, for reasons of golden toilet.) 718682;1402716887;mircea_popescu;re davout's link , "take the time to run bitcoind and p2pool." << running any recent bitcoind is much worse for bitcoin than mining on ghash 718683;1402716928;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.076 = 0.152 BTC [+] 718684;1402716989;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.076 = 3.496 BTC [+] 718685;1402717068;mircea_popescu;yea well. 718686;1402717128;mircea_popescu;davout but that aside i dun see much problem with it. gavin is copying the sec, hard to find fault even should you be so inclined. 718687;1402717158;asciilifeform;cookbook: http://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-and-Effective-USB-Write-Blocker 718688;1402717159;assbot;Cheap and Effective USB Write Blocker 718689;1402717172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0241 = 0.1928 BTC [-] 718690;1402717212;asciilifeform;hence 'everybody who wants, has' 718691;1402717224;asciilifeform;just have to want enough. 718692;1402717233;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.0301997 = 0.3624 BTC [+] 718693;1402717234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750005 = 0.75 BTC [-] {3} 718694;1402717252;mircea_popescu;well these are not the same. 718695;1402717258;mircea_popescu;every horny teenager has a harem 718696;1402717268;mircea_popescu;they only have to... want enough ? 718697;1402717356;asciilifeform;unlike gurlz, widgets don't wiggle away if you're inept. persistence can substitute for talent in the case of trivial problem, hence the existence of 'instructables', 'make', et al. 718698;1402717398;*;asciilifeform checks inventory. no harem, but plenty of custom gizmos of every variety. 718699;1402717451;mircea_popescu;yeah, but 'everybody who wants, has' ; 'just have to want enough'. ergo, not everyone who wants has. 718700;1402717468;asciilifeform;should've been more specific - yes 718701;1402717539;asciilifeform;picture if you could crib harem source code. 718702;1402717588;asciilifeform;(betcha there'd still be annoying buggers who 'bah, it won't build!') 718703;1402717721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07500342 = 0.975 BTC [-] {2} 718704;1402717782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750001 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2} 718705;1402717843;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07494005 = 0.3747 BTC [-] {2} 718706;1402717844;mircea_popescu;betcha there'd be just the same folks as today for whom itwon't build. 718707;1402717854;mircea_popescu;o holy shit. 718708;1402717858;mircea_popescu;;;google just power cycle machine no idea going on 718709;1402717859;gribble;“You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no ... - Trilema: ; Why won't my perpetual motion machine work?: ; Reviews of Cycling Science | cycling science: i do but there's a lot of time left 719010;1402749733;fluffypony;DVDs and books mostly 719011;1402749740;mircea_popescu;hammer her when she comes back. 719012;1402749929;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0795 = 1.0335 BTC [-] 719013;1402750411;mircea_popescu;hey there moiety :D 719014;1402750421;moiety;hello all, I'm really sorry for my lack of presence this past little while, had some problems with moving. I'm trying my hardest to not be offline. 719015;1402750430;moiety;hiya mircea_popescu how are you? 719016;1402750435;fluffypony;OMG YES MOIETY WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN 719017;1402750442;fluffypony;also how is the sex weeks flat? 719018;1402750471;moiety;BRI haven't heard of Malcom btw mircea_popescu, i was going to dig a little, if you wanted 719019;1402750531;moiety;fluffypony: I love it, it's amazing! but i got stuck in the empty old flat for a few days and haven't had internet here. I've moved half hour drive away in the smallest car you can buy i think and me and mum aren't exactly weight lifters lol how are you? :D 719020;1402750531;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 719021;1402750539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 170 @ 0.07930587 = 13.482 BTC [-] {3} 719022;1402750546;fluffypony;I'm excellent tks :) 719023;1402750584;mircea_popescu;moiety it's fine, thanks. case closed. 719024;1402750600;mircea_popescu;anyway, mind buying a disk for fluffypony on amazon and reshipping it ? 719025;1402750617;moiety;old flt finally emptied completely yesterday. i felt broken after it lol 719026;1402750621;fluffypony;moiety: from earlier - fluffypony: if anyone's interested, I'm looking for someone to buy a $900 item (aforementioned flash drive) on Amazon for me and ship it to me, will pay in Bitcoin and also pay for the effort 719027;1402750622;moiety;sure what disc? 719028;1402750642;fluffypony;http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00E65QM8O/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all 719029;1402750643;assbot;500 Service Unavailable Error 719030;1402750650;moiety;ahh kk i still ickle behind on logs 719031;1402750652;mircea_popescu;;;rated moiety 719032;1402750653;gribble;You have not yet rated user moiety 719033;1402750658;mircea_popescu;whar ?! 719034;1402750659;fluffypony;find the cheapest new one in that list 719035;1402750661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0795 = 1.749 BTC [+] 719036;1402750679;mircea_popescu;;;rate moiety 2 Good secretary and logistics mastergirl. 719037;1402750681;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user moiety has been recorded. 719038;1402750693;moiety;:D tyvm 719039;1402750696;mircea_popescu;hehe 719040;1402750849;moiety;fluffypony: $894.99 & FREE Shipping 719041;1402750915;fluffypony;moiety: does that definitely ship to you, afaik? 719042;1402750968;punkman;watch out for customs, although amazon.com sometimes estimates it on checkout and let's you prepay 719043;1402751027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.079 = 3.16 BTC [-] 719044;1402751042;moiety;yeah i'm just signing in to go over it all 719045;1402751057;fluffypony;ok cool beans 719046;1402751081;fluffypony;also have you setup a Bitcoin wallet yet? 719047;1402751137;moiety;1MoiEtY7kGWwxr7isWhS492gXJZqGUbWFy << :D its even a speshul one ... kk so that one isn't the best deal imo, lemme dig a little more 719048;1402751153;fluffypony;kk 719049;1402751157;moiety;though i didn't mean the E and Y to be giant 719050;1402751162;fluffypony;lol 719051;1402751163;moiety;>.> 719052;1402751262;mircea_popescu;spells out mey 719053;1402751266;mircea_popescu;could be worse 719054;1402751290;mircea_popescu;btw, you didn't generate that unsafely over some sort of shady provider did you ? 719055;1402751332;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07949999 = 0.3975 BTC [+] 719056;1402751497;moiety;no, generated all by myself :D 719057;1402751562;moiety;vanitygen + cmd is ok isn't it? 719058;1402751566;fluffypony;yes 719059;1402751606;mircea_popescu;ya 719060;1402751614;mircea_popescu;dude you have some hash then :D 719061;1402751619;fluffypony;and to double check - you're backing up your wallet.dat and/or you have your privkey written down and stored somewhere away from your house? 719062;1402751669;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: my 1spagni vanity addy took like 4 hours with vanitygen - 7 letters takes it up to like 1-2 days, 8 letters you need oclvanitygen 719063;1402751829;moiety;fluffypony: ok so you save about £57 getting it from the us but it will take longer 719064;1402751850;fluffypony;yeah I'll pay the extra 719065;1402752125;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07949999 = 0.954 BTC [+] 719066;1402752247;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07949999 = 1.3515 BTC [+] 719067;1402752447;mircea_popescu;aok 719068;1402752530;mircea_popescu;btw if anyonestill has a forum acct, ask that brucexie guy to drop bysometime 719069;1402752674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.07949999 = 1.431 BTC [+] 719070;1402752735;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.0018501 = 0.2498 BTC [-] 719071;1402753055;kakobrekla;>Dude you created an account just to come here and troll, at least have the decency not to hide your real account. Our little section of Bitcoin is doing just fine, OgNasty is one of the most upstanding members of the Bitcoin community. To come here and claim he is running some type of scam is ridiculous. You seem to have already climbed back into your hole, please stay there. 719072;1402753063;kakobrekla;apparently i still have one. 719073;1402753102;kakobrekla;o wait no 719074;1402753102;kakobrekla;Sorry kako, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum. 719075;1402753103;kakobrekla;You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com . 719076;1402753114;mircea_popescu;herp 719077;1402753175;mircea_popescu;isn't this most upstanding member that dork that came here a coupla years ago to try and troll anonymously 719078;1402753187;mircea_popescu;but then forgot all about how handles work ? 719079;1402753214;kakobrekla;that does sound familiar 719080;1402753223;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07949999 = 0.477 BTC [+] 719081;1402753284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00082036 = 14.1512 BTC [+] 719082;1402753373;mircea_popescu;you know it just occurs to me, the democratic political process and open source software have a shitload in common. 719083;1402753393;mircea_popescu;the only reason shit like the openssh was full of is even getting fixed at all is that it costs nothing to alter code. 719084;1402753429;mircea_popescu;if you had to pay fiddy bux to edit github bleedin' heart would still be there and a bunch of dorks all over the web would be explaining how it's not really that bad 719085;1402753442;mircea_popescu;policies already in place cost about that much to change and it's how it works. 719086;1402753469;mircea_popescu;both methods of organising labour are utterly horrible for anyone interested in quality work. they do deliver a very extensive array of crap 719087;1402753476;mircea_popescu;unfortunately... it's generally very crappy. 719088;1402753589;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07949999 = 0.159 BTC [+] 719089;1402753770;moiety;message sent to brucexie 719090;1402753985;mircea_popescu;aty 719091;1402754237;fluffypony;bbiab 719092;1402754565;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 73 @ 0.07949999 = 5.8035 BTC [+] {2} 719093;1402754680;chetty;mircea_popescu: policies already in place cost about that much to change and it's how it works.// people manage to believe that free stuff exists 719094;1402754737;chetty;example: oh boy I got HUGE tax return = free money, completely ignoring that is the gubermint returning your money they took 719095;1402755027;mircea_popescu;this is a point 719096;1402755054;mircea_popescu;kinda how the hunter-gatherer brain is wired. FREE BERRIES! 719097;1402755086;mircea_popescu;other later sedimentary strata of the brain have trouble talking through the barrage of endorphin release 719098;1402755297;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.0018501 = 0.2498 BTC [-] 719099;1402755541;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07949999 = 0.795 BTC [-] 719100;1402755724;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07949999 = 0.159 BTC [-] 719101;1402755785;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07949999 = 0.2385 BTC [-] 719102;1402756421;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you'll never guess what these guys quoted me for 1k cards btw. 719103;1402756456;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04405928 = 0.1322 BTC [-] 719104;1402756465;fluffypony;!up nubbins` 719105;1402756467;nubbins`;hmm, nope! 719106;1402756470;nubbins`;$75 ;D 719107;1402756483;mircea_popescu;yeah. like $115 719108;1402756514;mircea_popescu;im gonna get it just to see wtf 100 bux buys you. but srsly, if they can deliver atthat price you prolly should move your whole operation down here 719109;1402756516;mircea_popescu;sink teh world. 719110;1402756666;nubbins`;heheh 719111;1402756673;nubbins`;my time is still $45/hr even in .ar 719112;1402756734;mircea_popescu;i would guess that principally depends on what 45 buys you. 719113;1402756791;fluffypony;what do I pay my guy 719114;1402756818;fluffypony;I just did 2 sets of cards (1k each) 719115;1402756822;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00082042 = 12.5524 BTC [+] {2} 719116;1402756823;fluffypony;matt finish 719117;1402756836;fluffypony;and it was £72 (design + printing) 719118;1402756876;fluffypony;plus shipping from England, but that's relatively negligible 719119;1402757026;nubbins`;see, business cards are exactly the wrong thing to silkscreen 719120;1402757036;nubbins`;so much manual work for something so tiny 719121;1402757051;fluffypony;yep 719122;1402757095;mircea_popescu;ah i c 719123;1402757108;mircea_popescu;this is just the offset. apparently you can't get special tints in digital 719124;1402757177;mircea_popescu;but i tell you by the way... i've seen some machinery on that hunt... this whole town's half a museum 719125;1402757185;mircea_popescu;except they still run the exhibitions. 719126;1402757207;nubbins`;i'd say one could dredge up some old letterpress machines down there if one had some time to kill 719127;1402757253;nubbins`;anyway, yeah, silkscreen beats digital when you get into poster sizing 719128;1402757269;nubbins`;18x24" digital-print poster: $15+ per print 719129;1402757285;nubbins`;silkscreen: ~$4ea in quantity 719130;1402757301;nubbins`;(quantity being like 2 dozen) 719131;1402757350;nubbins`;i was actually reading a gabriel garcia marquez story the other day where the guy talks about "a beautiful four-color poster" 719132;1402757371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.079 = 0.474 BTC [-] 719133;1402757432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00082058 = 0.7796 BTC [+] 719134;1402757455;mircea_popescu;;;calc (3 * 2.5 * 1000) / (18*24*24) 719135;1402757455;gribble;0.72337962963 719136;1402757462;mircea_popescu;should be about the same thing no ?! 719137;1402757509;nubbins`;surface-area, yeah 719138;1402757517;nubbins`;cutting is the killer 719139;1402757554;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.079 = 0.237 BTC [-] 719140;1402757560;mircea_popescu;o it is ? 719141;1402757569;mircea_popescu;id have thought thats mostly automated 719142;1402757592;fluffypony;;;later tell moiety Let me know costs re: the flash drive and I'll send BTC to cover, and then once it arrives we can sort out re-shipping and your time. Thanks! 719143;1402757592;gribble;The operation succeeded. 719144;1402757598;nubbins`;you can get electric/hydraulic cutters 719145;1402757603;nubbins`;but all the placement etc is still by hand 719146;1402757615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07949999 = 1.272 BTC [+] 719147;1402757616;mircea_popescu;nuts 719148;1402757618;nubbins`;so little margin for error 719149;1402757630;nubbins`;your business card is cut 0.125" off-center, the card looks like shit 719150;1402757631;mircea_popescu;they managed to make printers autofeed 30 years ago 719151;1402757637;mircea_popescu;but placement for cutting is still done by hand ?! 719152;1402757642;nubbins`;true story 719153;1402757645;mircea_popescu;nuts. 719154;1402757661;nubbins`;now, there are back-stops you can use for consistency 719155;1402757675;nubbins`;but cuttong a 15x22" sheet down to business card size, you gotta keep moving the backstop 719156;1402757677;mircea_popescu;i got news for you : if your injet desktop printer prnts .1 off center, it also looks like shit 719157;1402757688;nubbins`;^ this is true 719158;1402757719;nubbins`;best you could manage would be to get a stack cutter and slice a stack of sheets all at once 719159;1402757725;nubbins`;but it's all finicky work 719160;1402757777;nubbins`;we have a 24" guillotine cutter, anything bigger than that requires a ruler and x-acto 719161;1402757885;fluffypony;ah, so you'd struggle with circumcising me then - good to know 719162;1402757893;fluffypony;:-P 719163;1402758027;nubbins`;OH YOU 719164;1402758032;nubbins`;bbl checking out the iceberg 719165;1402758066;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/BrreQNr 719166;1402758066;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 719167;1402758103;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07949999 = 1.272 BTC [+] 719168;1402758164;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0795 = 2.703 BTC [+] 719169;1402758469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.0795 = 3.5775 BTC [+] 719170;1402758474;fluffypony;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/282496/this_is_ridiculous_andreas_antonopoulos_i_will/ 719171;1402758477;assbot;This is RIDICULOUS. Andreas Antonopoulos, I will personally pay you 25BTC if start the conversation on Eliminating Pools & Solo Miners w/ frequent payouts... : Bitcoin 719172;1402758478;fluffypony;lol 719173;1402758482;fluffypony;lol lol lol 719174;1402758712;mircea_popescu;lmao 719175;1402758922;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/284epj/i_never_mined_the_bitcoin_or_other_alt_im/ and this is in the top posts too… 719176;1402758923;assbot;I never mined the Bitcoin or other alt. I'm investing into Petamine just to fight against CEX/GHash.IO : Bitcoin 719177;1402758932;pankkake;reddit, the actual reason to sell your bitcoins 719178;1402758951;mircea_popescu;pankkake methinks you take the internet too literally. 719179;1402758960;mircea_popescu;perhaps i should make an illustration of this brb 719180;1402759201;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00081496 = 2.4905 BTC [-] 719181;1402759384;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21701382 BTC [+] 719182;1402759446;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6619 @ 0.00081496 = 5.3942 BTC [-] 719183;1402759509;Apocalyptic;"I think it's funny that people think a bitcoin subreddit is the center of the bitcoin universe" 719184;1402759628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07949015 = 3.9745 BTC [+] {4} 719185;1402759933;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07949999 = 0.954 BTC [+] 719186;1402759969;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/ 719187;1402759982;pankkake;http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2014/06/deprecated.html => this is worse 719188;1402759983;assbot;Bitcoinism: Deprecated 719189;1402759994;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07949999 = 0.318 BTC [+] 719190;1402760041;[]bot;Bet created: "King Felix to Reign MLB Strikeouts" http://bitbet.us/bet/943/ 719191;1402760360;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00081496 = 3.2191 BTC [-] 719192;1402760543;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07949999 = 0.2385 BTC [+] 719193;1402760726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00081496 = 3.9933 BTC [-] 719194;1402760848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0301 = 0.1204 BTC [-] 719195;1402761013;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/ 719196;1402761014;assbot;This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 719197;1402761091;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: where'd you get the dervish ? 719198;1402761197;*;asciilifeform can't help but wonder re: the purpose of the road cone. 719199;1402761271;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu that, on the screen, is not the internet. 719200;1402761397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07802441 = 1.0923 BTC [-] {4} 719201;1402761478;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform amusingly, an INVESTOR SITE 719202;1402761479;mircea_popescu;http://affluentinvestor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Basement-dweller.png 719203;1402761497;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla no, it's not. but IT THINKS IT IS 719204;1402761641;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.88620772 BTC to 8`819 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 719205;1402761675;asciilifeform;fluffypony: Brckenlegepanzer << neato 719206;1402761702;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07948886 = 0.159 BTC [+] {2} 719207;1402761763;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share 719208;1402761847;moiety;omg mobile broadband sucks for gribbling 719209;1402761870;moiety;fluffypony: couple different options, i'll make a wee paste and pm it to you 719210;1402761915;*;asciilifeform noticed first 'in anger' test of stabilizer - mains went out for ~1s, ups (upstream of stab) didn't even notice. plenty of joules in the xformer's magnetic field... 719211;1402762013;asciilifeform;*downstream 719212;1402762040;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/ 719213;1402762252;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.07949246 = 1.8283 BTC [+] {4} 719214;1402763583;moiety;asciilifeform: re cats digging, there is a UK comedian (Eddie Izzard) who says cats are drilling (purring) and digging when they are behind the sofa lol in actuality, i think people can confuse digging for taking care of their claws. re covering their mess, incidentally they don't do this when they want to show who is boss in a household. 719215;1402763612;asciilifeform;moiety: this was probably correct. no traces of a cat tunnel were visible afterwards. 719216;1402763680;asciilifeform;moiety: cat in question, incidentally, isn't tame. won't come near people - but does hang out on my porch often. 719217;1402763776;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23182 @ 0.00081797 = 18.9622 BTC [+] 719218;1402763817;moiety;probably cus you don't bother him. would make sense for more feral cats to do the not covering of their mess also. 719219;1402763848;asciilifeform;moiety: these beasts do bury their turds, but mark territory 719220;1402763850;asciilifeform;;;google felinine 719221;1402763851;gribble;Felinine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Felinine: a urinary amino acid of Felidae.: ; Felinine: a urinary amino acid of Felidae - ScienceDirect.com: 719222;1402763896;asciilifeform;it doesn't bother me (grew up in a place with, possibly, more feral cats than people) 719223;1402763906;moiety;to get cats away, people put down anti-freeze because its sweet to cats D; half burying a 2l bottle half filled with water on it's side will discourage them without death 719224;1402763926;asciilifeform;moiety: on the contrary, more cats, the better 719225;1402763941;moiety;asciilifeform: sounds fab! apparently feral cats here are breeding out the true bobcat 719226;1402763942;*;asciilifeform is fond of cats, even if one can only look at them 719227;1402763950;moiety;are you allergic? 719228;1402763953;asciilifeform;nope 719229;1402763971;moiety;why can't you have one? 719230;1402763984;asciilifeform;moiety: last i heard, it was the felis silvestris that was hybridizing with the domestic, rather than bobcat 719231;1402764007;moiety;o i mean our native scottish bobcat 719232;1402764054;asciilifeform;that'd be, afaik, felis silvestris 719233;1402764058;asciilifeform;ancestor of the domestic 719234;1402764080;asciilifeform;http://wordcustard.squidoo.com/scottish-wildcat 719235;1402764082;asciilifeform;^ him 719236;1402764115;moiety;ah yeah 719237;1402764131;moiety;well, it's like semi ferals... like farm cats and country cats 719238;1402764141;asciilifeform;these are 'compatible' with regulation cat. 719239;1402764145;moiety;there are people going around neutering ferals so stop them cross breeding 719240;1402764175;moiety;http://www.scottishwildcats.co.uk/imagesgeneral/scottishwildcat.jpg 719241;1402764183;*;asciilifeform actually found out about silvestris interbreeding with housecat from... erik naggum 719242;1402764276;asciilifeform;moiety: have you tamed one of these animals ? 719243;1402764325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00082015 = 2.5015 BTC [+] 719244;1402764341;moiety;i've never seen one personally D; i've been mid-scotland for a decade, til moving recently 719245;1402764408;moiety;the more north/rural you go here, the less cats behave like your usual housecat. somuch roaming the wilderness in all weathers for them 719246;1402764502;moiety;actually, same goes for the people.... 719247;1402764569;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07949997 = 0.2385 BTC [+] 719248;1402764692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07949997 = 0.8745 BTC [+] 719249;1402764798;asciilifeform;moiety: why can't you have one << sadly i lack the skills, time, resources to care for a second pet 719250;1402764813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.07949999 = 9.1425 BTC [+] {2} 719251;1402764869;moiety;asciilifeform: what's your primary pet? (please say your laser) 719252;1402764873;asciilifeform;woman 719253;1402764874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.079999 = 4 BTC [+] 719254;1402764882;moiety;ah 719255;1402764889;moiety;but they are meant to look after you! 719256;1402764918;asciilifeform;sorta does, aye 719257;1402764994;moiety;apparently cats ==women anyway http://www.joke-archives.com/dogs/catsanddogs.html 719258;1402765028;chetty;lost wallets, pfft. IRS can top that http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-provides-more-emails-in-conservative-group-targeting-probe-1402684543 719259;1402765028;assbot;IRS Says Official's Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash - WSJ 719260;1402765057;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07999999 = 1.28 BTC [+] 719261;1402765088;asciilifeform;chetty: is this kind of paperwork ever not conveniently 'lost' ? 719262;1402765099;asciilifeform;'we accidentally the evidence' 719263;1402765118;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.08 = 5.04 BTC [+] {3} 719264;1402765259;chetty;yeah but emails?? who in the hell would believe that? 719265;1402765291;asciilifeform;moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdW_bKkmQVo << consider moving, like mircea_popescu, to south america... 719266;1402765291;assbot;Ocelot - Tigrillo - YouTube 719267;1402765502;moiety;asciilifeform: amazing markings! especially the ears. isn't it fascinating how all cats no matter feral-ness or genus do the rubbing against your legs for attention? 719268;1402765502;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 719269;1402765711;moiety;;; later tell unbalanced thanks :D homemade is always better http://imgur.com/a/vmd8a#2 :D we do need something to soak up the whisky lol 719270;1402765712;assbot;baking - Imgur 719271;1402765712;gribble;The operation succeeded. 719272;1402765850;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.079 = 7.9 BTC [-] 719273;1402765955;asciilifeform;moiety: i suspect that ocelot is quasi-tame (lives on the dock, fed fish?) 719274;1402766031;moiety;asciilifeform: certainly doesn't behave so feral, grumbling away for more petting 719275;1402766887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.07880119 = 2.1276 BTC [-] {3} 719276;1402767009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13326 @ 0.0008175 = 10.894 BTC [-] {2} 719277;1402767070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8924 @ 0.00081596 = 7.2816 BTC [-] 719278;1402768412;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.078399 = 3.9983 BTC [-] 719279;1402768839;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.078999 = 0.948 BTC [+] 719280;1402768961;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07899999 = 0.948 BTC [+] {3} 719281;1402769634;benkay; also, check out this slut : // great tits 719282;1402769819;punkman;http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184253-ssd-shadiness-kingston-and-pny-caught-bait-and-switching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews 719283;1402769819;assbot;SSD shadiness: Kingston and PNY caught bait-and-switching cheaper components after good reviews | ExtremeTech 719284;1402769876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0202 = 0.101 BTC [-] 719285;1402770547;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9693 @ 0.00082058 = 7.9539 BTC [+] 719286;1402770791;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00082058 = 4.1029 BTC [+] 719287;1402771279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07899912 = 0.948 BTC [-] {3} 719288;1402771386;asciilifeform;;;rated moiety 719289;1402771386;gribble;You have not yet rated user moiety 719290;1402771391;asciilifeform;;;rate moiety 1 felis silvestris. 719291;1402771392;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user moiety has been recorded. 719292;1402771406;punkman;so these guys are gonna develop truecrypt now: https://github.com/FreeApophis https://twitter.com/doekbrijder 719293;1402771406;assbot;FreeApophis (Thomas) GitHub 719294;1402771407;assbot;Doekbrijder (doekbrijder) auf Twitter 719295;1402771439;punkman;Mr. "my first C project is gonna be crypto" and a Drupal dev 719296;1402771468;asciilifeform;punkman: snake oil sucks, but when it's medicine for a corpse... whatever. 719297;1402771540;punkman;indeed 719298;1402771543;moiety;tyvm asciilifeform :D 719299;1402771645;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50950 @ 0.00082245 = 41.9038 BTC [+] {5} 719300;1402772316;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07899999 = 0.158 BTC [+] 719301;1402772622;chetty;that reddit link... lol. 719302;1402772809;moiety;;; last seen bingoboingo 719303;1402772810;gribble;(last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} ] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message) 719304;1402772820;moiety;wut 719305;1402772858;kakobrekla;;;seen bingoboingo 719306;1402772858;gribble;bingoboingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 16 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: mdev: Ideally it is a self correcting issue. 719307;1402772869;moiety;ah thank you kakobrekla :D 719308;1402772885;moiety;glad to see he wasn't blown away by the bad weather 719309;1402774146;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07899999 = 0.316 BTC [+] 719310;1402774329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00082371 = 11.0377 BTC [+] {2} 719311;1402774968;fluffypony;moiety: ok back 719312;1402775027;moiety;i sent a pm fluffypony 719313;1402775035;fluffypony;oh just saw that, tks 719314;1402775488;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07899999 = 0.158 BTC [+] 719315;1402775538;fluffypony;;;later tell mircea_popescu I thought he was 16/f/cali? but then again, I forgot my robe and my wizard hat... 719316;1402775538;gribble;The operation succeeded. 719317;1402775610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 76 @ 0.042 = 3.192 BTC 719318;1402776031;chetty;my robe and my wizard hat...// required uniforms for next conf? 719319;1402776146;fluffypony;yes 719320;1402776169;fluffypony;Thursday night dinner will require it 719321;1402776169;fluffypony;as well as 16 year old females from Cali 719322;1402776190;fluffypony;(which my wife is, except Cali == Germany of course) 719323;1402776281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2112439 BTC [-] 719324;1402776342;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21100006 = 0.633 BTC [-] {2} 719325;1402776403;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-] 719326;1402776469;moiety;;; later tell mircea_popescu I just got a rather big shock.... thank you very much :] 719327;1402776469;gribble;Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 719328;1402776477;moiety;;; later tell mircea_popescu I just got a rather big shock.... thank you very much :) 719329;1402776478;gribble;The operation succeeded. 719330;1402776493;moiety;omg gribble don't discriminate against different smiles! 719331;1402777623;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07899999 = 0.158 BTC [+] 719332;1402778599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07899999 = 0.316 BTC [+] 719333;1402778694;kakobrekla;;;later tell moiety ":]" 719334;1402778694;gribble;The operation succeeded. 719335;1402778715;Apocalyptic;hax 719336;1402778721;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9430 @ 0.00082398 = 7.7701 BTC [+] {2} 719337;1402778735;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3JQYB9.txt ) 719338;1402778735;thestringpuller;!b 4 719339;1402779514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC 719340;1402779662;moiety;kakobrekla: thanks! though, this is like wearing braces or something.... XD 719341;1402779691;Apocalyptic;moiety, the message won't contain the quotes 719342;1402779710;moiety;I just saw that..and felt silly 719343;1402779713;moiety;>.> 719344;1402781222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 125 @ 0.07951719 = 9.9396 BTC [+] {4} 719345;1402781527;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00081877 = 13.4278 BTC [-] 719346;1402782076;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21399992 = 0.856 BTC [+] {2} 719347;1402782982;FabianB;!up empyex 719348;1402783007;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 719349;1402783007;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 1000 @ 0.00021562 10000 @ 0.00021561 719350;1402783008;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 719351;1402783418;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.0008179 = 23.3919 BTC [-] {3} 719352;1402783540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3854 @ 0.00007784 = 0.3 BTC [+] 719353;1402784455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.08 = 0.72 BTC [+] 719354;1402785004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.08 = 0.56 BTC [+] 719355;1402785309;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12839 @ 0.00082428 = 10.5829 BTC [+] 719356;1402786041;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.08 = 4.32 BTC [+] {2} 719357;1402786453;Mats_cd03;i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale 719358;1402786496;Mats_cd03;im using the vinco board to do it in lieu of golden toilet 719359;1402786501;Mats_cd03;asciilifeform ^ 719360;1402786712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [+] 719361;1402786895;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26404 @ 0.00081705 = 21.5734 BTC [-] 719362;1402787827;benkay;neat trick, FabianB 719363;1402788188;FabianB;benkay: it's mpexbot a little improved 719364;1402788200;FabianB;!up empyex 719365;1402788211;FabianB;$conference 719366;1402788212;empyex;FabianB: Next conference starts in 10 months and 3 days. Estimated cost today: 2.33372229 BTC 719367;1402788266;FabianB;$vwap s.mg 719368;1402788266;empyex;FabianB: S.MG 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00009054 high: 0.00012399 low: 0.00009 volume: 402335 btc: 36.42872565 719369;1402788314;FabianB;$mpexlag 719370;1402788314;empyex;FabianB: 132 milliseconds 719371;1402788420;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.07266747 = 41.7838 BTC [-] {34} 719372;1402788725;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59507 @ 0.00082541 = 49.1177 BTC [+] {4} 719373;1402788985;dub;goxxed 719374;1402789335;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082681 = 21.4971 BTC [+] {2} 719375;1402791073;mircea_popescu;fluffypony im not even sure, but i think 16 was back in the 90s before all the nonsense about fucking teenagers gripped the us 719376;1402791288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00082664 = 14.8795 BTC [-] 719377;1402791411;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: moiety: i suspect that ocelot is quasi-tame (lives on the dock, fed fish?) << not that tame from what i hear 719378;1402791426;mircea_popescu;plenty of "owners" got bit / mauled. sorta like pitbull ** 2 719379;1402791593;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16084 @ 0.00082743 = 13.3084 BTC [+] 719380;1402791875;moiety;this had developed into a harder to determine label though hasnt it 719381;1402791876;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: that particular beast 719382;1402791880;asciilifeform;(not the species) 719383;1402791906;moiety;hes no a beast, he wants clapped 719384;1402791913;mircea_popescu;lol 719385;1402791929;benkay;$vwap s.nsa 719386;1402791953;moiety;clapped = petted inscottish btw, sorry 719387;1402791959;benkay; plenty of "owners" got bit / mauled. sorta like pitbull ** 2 // don't you start with this pernicious shit 719388;1402791994;mircea_popescu;benkay hm ? 719389;1402792008;chetty;cats in general are less predictable than dogs 719390;1402792018;moiety;it's the life if a bad rep... it doesnt mean you are bad, just thatpeople have said you have done bad things 719391;1402792023;moiety;benkay ^ 719392;1402792026;benkay;pits are entirely great dogs. 719393;1402792027;mircea_popescu;empyex sick ? 719394;1402792040;benkay;$vwap s.mpoe 719395;1402792044;mircea_popescu;benkay that is besides the point. they are demanding dogs. 719396;1402792053;benkay;"demanding" what does this mean? 719397;1402792067;benkay;that one must actually train them? 719398;1402792079;moiety;has pooch got a pal yet benkay .. have you caved to puppy requests? 719399;1402792095;chetty;to properly own/train a pitbull takes more skill than say a poodle 719400;1402792116;asciilifeform;there's a school of thought that one should have a potentially man-eating pet, that way you know that it really likes you 719401;1402792116;benkay;moiety: the plan is to satisfy the baby crazy with...a baby. 719402;1402792119;asciilifeform;(or something like that) 719403;1402792138;moiety;my favourite dog no one had even heard of. i like the jp chin. they are like cats you know they dont bark. does this mean im a cat lady to the bone or accepting? 719404;1402792140;asciilifeform;(if not yet eaten) 719405;1402792155;mircea_popescu; that one must actually train them? << yes. 719406;1402792156;moiety;benkay: woah for real? 719407;1402792162;mircea_popescu;all the time. not whenever they have the time or feel like it. 719408;1402792167;moiety;you know they talk back after X years right? 719409;1402792175;mircea_popescu;and training means a thing. not whatever some derp has the stomach for 719410;1402792184;mircea_popescu;but actually hitting them over the head 719411;1402792202;benkay;i've never shied from that. 719412;1402792208;mircea_popescu;that's you. 719413;1402792216;mircea_popescu;and maybe five other people in your town 719414;1402792226;benkay;de veras 719415;1402792234;mircea_popescu;so then. ocelot is even worse 719416;1402792241;mircea_popescu;it'll fucking love you if you're a better ocelot than it is 719417;1402792252;moiety;pits have erned themselves the rep of nanny dogs, why doesnt this get taken into account? 719418;1402792252;mircea_popescu;if you're an american it'll kill you in your sleep and feed on your entrails. 719419;1402792266;moiety;no 719420;1402792274;asciilifeform;there are tiger, lion tamers, in america 719421;1402792283;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and also chartered accountants. 719422;1402792283;asciilifeform;somewhere. (i recall one was eaten quite recently) 719423;1402792287;benkay;because americans don't think, they react to fear moiety. 719424;1402792288;justusranvier;Pits are extremely affectionate dogs towards humans. Some of them have been bred for dog aggression. 719425;1402792291;mircea_popescu;;;google monty python chartered accountant lion tamer 719426;1402792292;gribble;Monty Python - Lion Tamer - YouTube: ; Chartered Accountant by Monty Python.mp4 - YouTube: ; Monty Python - Vocational Guidance Counsellor - YouTube: 719427;1402792296;moiety;mircea_popescu: but but but ocelot, such eyes, boig blobs on ears 719428;1402792309;moiety;fuck did i just define rasicsm? sorry] 719429;1402792326;mircea_popescu;moiety you know, animal eyes are empty. the humanity you see in there is your own projection. 719430;1402792338;moiety;not define, exemplify* 719431;1402792353;moiety;mircea_popescu: how do you know they are empty? 719432;1402792366;benkay;the thing about pits is that they've got this long history of being bred to defend the family from things, where things can be everything from home invaders to bears on the plains during the trek to oregon 719433;1402792400;benkay;this rocket can put you in orbit or drop a warhead on your friend's face. 719434;1402792401;asciilifeform;moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCI80qmRbVs 719435;1402792401;assbot; - YouTube 719436;1402792402;mircea_popescu;moiety if you ever get to kill a bunch of people and a bunch of animals, you'll eventually notice the difference :) 719437;1402792450;asciilifeform;moiety: and, of course, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKDFLQMxmN4 719438;1402792450;assbot; - - YouTube 719439;1402792559;asciilifeform;translation: '... i know her weak points, and when she misbehaves, i know exactly where to smack...' 719440;1402792625;benkay;although re smacks mine responds most promptly to a squirt of water in the face. 719441;1402792670;benkay; you know they talk back after X years right? // you should have heard the things as what came out of my mouth. 719442;1402792737;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale <<< asciilifeform when are we making this man happy ? 719443;1402792749;mircea_popescu;$conference 719444;1402792750;moiety;asciilifeform: i cant understand this but tht cat ispretty huge! do you think tho that that's cat's general nature. they need, you give = omg you have a domestic - ish 719445;1402792761;mircea_popescu;FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 719446;1402792781;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'first you pillage, then you burn' or how did it go 719447;1402792786;mircea_popescu;lol 719448;1402792823;moiety;mircea_popescu: i got asked once if i wanted someone killed... it's a bigger question than you realise til you are asked 719449;1402792855;moiety;i say once i mean recently 719450;1402792883;mircea_popescu;lol what are you, the new sr madam ? 719451;1402792910;moiety;asciilifeform: on second vid... they are pretty big fullly grown! these guys dont mind having them in home, no bother 719452;1402792912;asciilifeform;moiety: the cat - siberian lynx. no tamer naturally than tiger. 2nd link, the man describes how he disciplines the animal 719453;1402792925;asciilifeform;exactly what mircea_popescu said 719454;1402792971;moiety;the ocelot doesnt seem bothered by the man at all 719455;1402792986;asciilifeform;moiety: 1st link - also siberian lynx. in moscow apartment. 719456;1402793077;moiety;it seems happy enough, i guess as it doesnt know any better 719457;1402793095;moiety;are you telling me if i gpt manul baby, it would be happy 719458;1402793105;asciilifeform;moiety: 2nd lynx was found in the wild as a kitten (hunters killed its mother) 719459;1402793145;moiety;omg thats so sad 719460;1402793171;moiety;ive been looking into these charity manul people and i dont trust them 719461;1402793276;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/#comment-101188 719462;1402793277;assbot;On The Superiority of Monarchy (or, adnotations to Why the Worst Get on Top) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 719463;1402793278;moiety;such bonny coluring, folk just run in and steal them,exotic pets or fur trade gives a lot. urgh 719464;1402793285;mircea_popescu;people arguing with me, always a funny sight. 719465;1402793360;moiety;oooh new header again 719466;1402793459;moiety;i like this one, how often do they rotate? the last one eas really nice but didnt stay as long as monoply or have i lostt time via moving - entirely pribable 719467;1402793467;moiety;was* 719468;1402793481;moiety;*probable* 719469;1402793524;mircea_popescu;moiety normally they rotate quarterly, but i've done like 3 or 4 this past month cause why the hell not sorta thing 719470;1402793539;*;asciilifeform reports from the unintended-side-effects-of-new-tech-department: put on new set of noise-cancellers, can now hear my tongue move. disturbing. 719471;1402793579;moiety;mircea_popescu: prexactly, your blog, why not :D good on you! 719472;1402793632;moiety;nsa thanks you asciilifeform but they get bored of cats....i don't however, just so you know 719473;1402793720;moiety;don't mean to make all you al cringe but.... 719474;1402793722;moiety;http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/14/size-does-matter-apparently-as-man-sues-hospital-for-shortening-his-penis-4761533/ 719475;1402793723;assbot;Size does matter- man sues hospital for shortening his penis | Metro News 719476;1402793759;moiety;i think whats important to note here is his wife is a fucking cunt 719477;1402793801;mircea_popescu;uh why ? 719478;1402793857;asciilifeform;related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJE7uJyHJ3k 719479;1402793857;assbot;Monty Python - Ypres 1914, The Short Straw - YouTube 719480;1402794024;moiety;mircea_popescu: cus you should marry to stick by someone, not run off when they cant have sex for 24 months 719481;1402794030;moiety;(i think) 719482;1402794189;mircea_popescu;well maybe she married to be sticked by someone 719483;1402794256;Mats_cd03;i mean...thats a long time 719484;1402794665;moiety;personally, i feel it was a scapegoat situation 719485;1402794716;moiety;i feel like, she probably waycnted to leave following his paraplegia. I mean, why marry someone you would see it through with? 719486;1402794728;moiety;wanted* 719487;1402794743;moiety;wouldn't* 719488;1402794774;moiety;so sorry, i make little sense after wine 719489;1402794869;mircea_popescu;anyone of teh unvoiced looking to do a bit of coding ? 719490;1402794932;kakobrekla;(hint: they cant speak) 719491;1402794966;mircea_popescu;they can pm! 719492;1402795192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02399874 = 0.192 BTC [+] {3} 719493;1402795436;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.07519678 = 2.1807 BTC [+] {3} 719494;1402795478;moiety;what kind of coding? 719495;1402795558;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07949933 = 1.1925 BTC [+] {2} 719496;1402795741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07949999 = 0.159 BTC [-] 719497;1402796046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00082664 = 8.3077 BTC [-] 719498;1402796141;mircea_popescu;so a man reads "But that particular December nothing positive had taken place, except for the Soviet-Chinese talks - though even they seemed to have got bogged down - and the seventieth birthday of the Leader of the Peoples. He could scarcely tell the Germans about the trial of Traicho Rostov, at which the whole blatant MISE-EN-SCENE had suddenly come unstuck in open court and the correspondents had been fobbed off, af 719499;1402796142;mircea_popescu;ter some delay, with a false confession allegedly written by Rostov in the death cell. This was too shameful, and it would hardly have served the purposes of reeducation." and then goes to search, curious what the internets know of rostov ? 719500;1402796150;mircea_popescu;http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18140285 << apparently they know a whole lot. 719501;1402796151;assbot;17 Dec 1949 - Drawbacks Of A Communist Career 719502;1402796321;mircea_popescu;the last paragraph is perhaps quite important, for all the "bitcoin entrepreneurs" so very eager to sign plea bargains. broz tito outlived stalin, and nearly outlived the soviets. 719503;1402796656;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018498 = 0.185 BTC [-] 719504;1402797327;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22336 @ 0.00082664 = 18.4638 BTC [-] 719505;1402797449;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07324745 = 0.8057 BTC [-] {2} 719506;1402797510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07323716 = 0.2197 BTC [-] 719507;1402797651;thestringpuller;%diff 719508;1402797653;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 439711.37 in 982 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.53 719509;1402797663;mircea_popescu;%b 719510;1402797666;mircea_popescu;%book 719511;1402797667;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 719512;1402797680;mircea_popescu;lol cool. 719513;1402797684;thestringpuller;no bid depth 719514;1402797700;thestringpuller;difficulty is kinda mad high on ATC must be some ASICs out there on the network 719515;1402797986;asciilifeform;'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.' 719516;1402797998;asciilifeform;(famous letter from tito to stalin, found on the latter's desk after his death) 719517;1402798187;mircea_popescu;ayup. 719518;1402798264;mircea_popescu;im playing moscopol tangos in the crisp argentine air, and chasing their splendid ciruelas with my splendid imported plum juice 719519;1402798270;mircea_popescu;it's a sort of paradise. 719520;1402798399;mircea_popescu;btw asciilifeform re zaraza : www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Y8kylOsF0 (the original, uruguay) 719521;1402798428;asciilifeform;lol! 719522;1402798544;asciilifeform;interesting spoiler: http://www.tango-l.com/archives/Tango-L/msg03006.html 719523;1402798545;assbot;[TANGO-L] zaraza or Zaraza 719524;1402798571;mircea_popescu;(the uruguayan is SO MUCH BETTER too) 719525;1402799103;mircea_popescu;funnier still : "Buey zaraza, tus ojos tristones" in original. buey is commonly used in romanian today as a vocative address 719526;1402799108;mircea_popescu;(sort-of like "yo!") 719527;1402799158;mircea_popescu;meanwhile the term is actually... orcadian! 719528;1402799165;mircea_popescu;(where it means boy. spoken the same way) 719529;1402799313;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: try this one on for size: 719530;1402799318;asciilifeform;'the Western blok... preferred to view the Eastern European nations as victims of Soviet aggression, ignoring the simple and manly fact (that would have been instantly understood by a Roman) that Soviet legions, without anyone's help, took possession of Eastern Europe via force of arms, answering aggression with aggression. And the Roman would an absurdity - he could not comprehend, in the name of what so-called 719531;1402799318;asciilifeform;moral justice the legions ought to forsake the lands for which they had paid with their blood. Not only is the transference of conceptions of morality to the evaluation of historical events a phony method, but, if we recall, the moralists - the defeated European nations and the Americans, enemies of the USSR - that is to say, non-impartial moralists - their condemnations sound hollow indeed. The offenders, are, 719532;1402799318;asciilifeform;of course, unphased by this. We know now that their strategy of psychological war turned out to be a correct one... To establish the injustice, the 'meanness' of the enemy in a moralistic war is every bit as important as winning a pitched battle in a hot war.' 719533;1402799329;asciilifeform;from edward limonov, 'disciplinary sanitarium.' 719534;1402799332;asciilifeform;translation mine. 719535;1402799477;asciilifeform;much as it must've sucked to be on the receiving end of the beast - much of what people like to gripe about re: soviet ham-handedness was, as you might say, 'forced mistake.' 719536;1402799494;mircea_popescu;certainly a forced mistake. 719537;1402799518;mircea_popescu;but look at the matter : ever since napoleon implemented the idiotic idea that people generally should have a voice merely for having been born, 719538;1402799535;mircea_popescu;europe has had naught but turmoil. the russians ended up taking it in the ass twice for this reason, and painfully too. 719539;1402799546;asciilifeform;mr mold likes to crank it all the way back to... voltaire 719540;1402799547;mircea_popescu;that on the 2nd pass they eventually had enough and followed is reasonably understandable. 719541;1402799576;mircea_popescu;that the 1800s quaint concepts of the superiority of the west, naive faith in the benevolence of the european man, and his general humanity, all that germanophillia etc 719542;1402799601;mircea_popescu;turned by1950 into a quite paranoid "we'll never be safe ever unelss we control it all" is equally sensible in context 719543;1402799615;mircea_popescu;the problem is that russia never was and likely never will be actually up to the task. 719544;1402799622;mircea_popescu;so it's a bit of a drama. 719545;1402799649;asciilifeform;benevolence of the european man, and his general humanity << the funny part is that the russian left (pro-american. if you want to actually understand post-collapse ussr, gotta understand why left->pro-us) went right back to this spiel 719546;1402799658;mircea_popescu;it's not voltaire, it's the french retard club, montaigne, saint simon, rousseau etc. 719547;1402799660;asciilifeform;'hyooman riiights!' 719548;1402799670;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform they'll forever go to this spiel. 719549;1402799676;mircea_popescu;it's unavoidable. who else ? 719550;1402799686;asciilifeform;lelz 719551;1402799693;mircea_popescu;whether your father is a scientist or a drunk, or both, 719552;1402799701;mircea_popescu;as a six year old boy he's gonna be your father regardless. 719553;1402799848;mircea_popescu;meanwhile europe is going in it's second syphilitic-whore-with-a-gram-a-day-habit 719554;1402799866;mircea_popescu;such a thing kills everyone else, but it just goes to sleep and comes out virgin and 16 again. 719555;1402799942;mircea_popescu;(napoleon's "general's baton" bs is nothing but the reimplementation of the gracchi's reforms, 20 centuries prior) 719556;1402799943;*;asciilifeform no expert, but sees a europe that largely shot its wad in 1918 719557;1402799972;mircea_popescu;quite. 719558;1402799991;asciilifeform;so where's the 16-virgin ? 719559;1402800011;mircea_popescu;cluny 719560;1402800037;asciilifeform;lol! 719561;1402800104;mircea_popescu;no kidding. 719562;1402800160;mircea_popescu;it did all this before. better, even, arguably, since still no man was yet as rich as crassus. 719563;1402800360;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/embed/S2Y8kylOsF0 < here's a good one 719564;1402800360;assbot;Ignacio Corsini - Zaraza (1929) - YouTube 719565;1402800364;mircea_popescu;damn 719566;1402800370;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6-jlevnwQ that 719567;1402800370;assbot;Wiera Gran sings Russian tango - Ciemna noc (Temnaya Noch) - YouTube 719568;1402800560;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] 719569;1402800682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.076 = 0.684 BTC [+] 719570;1402800764;benkay;tonights delicacies: lady-made gnocchi with bacon and sea scallops in a pecorino cream sauce 719571;1402800829;benkay;i was introduced to a novel 'paper' last night: CaCO3 quarry byproduct + resin. 719572;1402800850;benkay;"eat recycled food" etc etc 719573;1402801171;mircea_popescu;!up davidlatapie 719574;1402801231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.024 = 0.144 BTC [+] 719575;1402801393;davidlatapie;Hi mircea_popescu how are you doing? I'm sorry I did not have much time to participate recently. Not that is it getting better :) 719576;1402801404;mircea_popescu;not bad 719577;1402801594;davidlatapie;Awaken at 5PM? 719578;1402802146;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.0008265 = 8.8436 BTC [-] {2} 719579;1402802610;moiety;http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/brevard-judge-accused-punching-public-defender/ngCGC/ 719580;1402802611;assbot;Brevard judge tells attorney, 'I'll beat your ass,' allegedly... | www.wftv.com 719581;1402802834;benkay;"speedy trial" is a bit vauge. 719582;1402803061;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.00380635 = 0.217 BTC [+] 719583;1402803701;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: napoleon's "general's baton" << i always understood that piece to speak of his favour for aristocracy 'of merit' vs of birth 719584;1402803794;asciilifeform;when things get wedged at 'of birth' that's really an invitation for a napoleon to come and, technical term, 'fuck shit up just because' 719585;1402803844;asciilifeform;and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help 719586;1402803976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.078 = 0.312 BTC [-] 719587;1402805379;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07600636 = 0.7601 BTC [-] {2} 719588;1402806850;assbot;KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 719589;1402806938;benkay;!up KRS1 719590;1402806958;KRS1;thanks..i need level 2 for +v? 719591;1402806958;benkay;hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped 719592;1402806962;benkay;yup 719593;1402806971;benkay;;;gettrust krs1 719594;1402806971;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user krs1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=krs1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=krs1 | Rated since: never 719595;1402806984;KRS1;thought i just authenticated 719596;1402806997;benkay;;;ident KRS1 719597;1402806997;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'KRS1', with hostmask 'KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net', is identified as user 'KRS', with GPG key id DDCA1AC02D73D555, key fingerprint AEDA19C1901B6FA0207B9620DDCA1AC02D73D555, and bitcoin address None 719598;1402807009;benkay;;;gettrust assbot KRS 719599;1402807010;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user KRS: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=KRS | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=KRS | Rated since: never 719600;1402807025;benkay;try /nick KRS /msg assbot !up /nick KRS1 719601;1402807045;KRS1;damnit someone else is KRS 719602;1402807057;benkay; hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly. 719603;1402807084;benkay;talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset 719604;1402807097;KRS1;ok thanks 719605;1402807291;moiety;krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it? 719606;1402808856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00082743 = 14.7283 BTC [+] 719607;1402809039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.078944 = 0.9473 BTC [+] {5} 719608;1402809832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0008263 = 11.2377 BTC [-] 719609;1402810015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082825 = 25.5101 BTC [+] {4} 719610;1402813370;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.079 = 0.474 BTC [-] 719611;1402813797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.076096 = 0.8371 BTC [-] {2} 719612;1402814468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22789767 BTC [+] 719613;1402814590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02027599 = 0.4055 BTC [+] 719614;1402814591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07603348 = 0.8364 BTC [-] {2} 719615;1402814712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00185 = 0.185 BTC [+] 719616;1402815566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00007784 = 0.1946 BTC [+] 719617;1402815763;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help << clearly. 719618;1402815772;mircea_popescu;the problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing., 719619;1402815782;mircea_popescu;according to reddit, reddit's merituous. 719620;1402816725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7363 @ 0.00007784 = 0.5731 BTC [+] {2} 719621;1402818372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 114 @ 0.07601262 = 8.6654 BTC [+] {5} 719622;1402823175;FabianB;<+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots 719623;1402823190;FabianB;!up empyex 719624;1402823240;FabianB;$vwap s.mpoe 719625;1402823241;empyex;FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082206 high: 0.00082888 low: 0.00081496 volume: 575271 btc: 472.90917317 7 day: average: 0.00083822 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6722160 btc: 5634.66906217 30 day: average: 0.00088219 high: 0.00099876 low: 0.00079351 volume: 25958166 btc: 22900.03155038 719626;1402823496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00082835 = 13.1708 BTC [+] {2} 719627;1402823557;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0751 = 0.6759 BTC [-] 719628;1402823952;benkay;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309073.msg3315672#msg3315672 // but how are you going to get the pools to support a hard fork that would allow their participants to cheat? 719629;1402823952;assbot;A Non-Outsourceable Puzzle to Prevent Hosted Mining (and Mining Pools) 719630;1402824899;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082704 = 15.2175 BTC [-] {3} 719631;1402825631;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.03 = 0.18 BTC [-] 719632;1402825692;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.07361764 = 4.7851 BTC [-] {7} 719633;1402826729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.02020013 = 0.1616 BTC [+] {2} 719634;1402826790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00082555 = 7.5538 BTC [-] {2} 719635;1402828132;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00082464 = 19.379 BTC [-] {2} 719636;1402829030;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 59(Y):41(N) by coin, 60(Y):40(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.45879439 BTC. Current weight: 77,914. 719637;1402829474;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3036 @ 0.00082727 = 2.5116 BTC [+] 719638;1402830999;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 76 @ 0.002 = 0.152 BTC 719639;1402831366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0752 = 0.1504 BTC [-] 719640;1402831671;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0752 = 0.1504 BTC [-] 719641;1402831804;thestringpuller;happy fathers day mircea_popescu 719642;1402831805;thestringpuller;jkjk 719643;1402832769;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0752 = 0.752 BTC [-] {2} 719644;1402833562;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00082737 = 14.8513 BTC [+] {2} 719645;1402833562;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0202 = 0.101 BTC [-] 719646;1402834112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3443 @ 0.00082646 = 2.8455 BTC [-] {2} 719647;1402834965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018501 = 0.185 BTC [+] 719648;1402835502;davout;mircea_popescu: around? 719649;1402836552;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.07543621 = 4.4507 BTC [+] {3} 719650;1402836553;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0295695 = 0.2957 BTC [-] 719651;1402836612;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00082623 = 2.1052 BTC [-] 719652;1402836695;kakobrekla; hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly. 719653;1402836695;kakobrekla; talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. 719654;1402836706;kakobrekla;FabianB is it registered with nickserv? 719655;1402836727;kakobrekla;ops first paste went over 2 lines. 719656;1402837584;FabianB;kakobrekla: yes, it is 719657;1402837801;nubbins`;morning, folks 719658;1402837908;Mats_cd03;i forgot the private key associated with gribble :s 719659;1402837946;chetty;g'day nubbins` 719660;1402837991;FabianB;Mats_cd03: no second auth via btc address? 719661;1402838015;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12552 @ 0.00082179 = 10.3151 BTC [-] 719662;1402838056;Mats_cd03;no 719663;1402838057;nubbins`;http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/gamer-dad-ranks-on-mashable-top-pops-list-for-donkey-kong-hack-1.2675866 719664;1402838058;assbot;Gamer dad ranks on Mashable 'top pops' list for Donkey Kong hack - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News 719665;1402838075;nubbins`;Mats_cd03, you forgot your private key :0 719666;1402838082;*;nubbins` shakes head 719667;1402838197;FabianB;Mats_cd03: did you loose it or did you forget the passphrase? 719668;1402838216;Mats_cd03;ive forgotten the passphrase 719669;1402838241;Mats_cd03;i was stoned when i setup gpg :( 719670;1402838530;chetty;you didnt write it down on paper and store elsewhere either I guees :/ 719671;1402838805;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3C1ENF.txt ) 719672;1402838805;nubbins`;!b 4 719673;1402838827;nubbins`;dead link 719674;1402838842;nubbins`;there's a very high-looking woman sitting on my front step 719675;1402838852;nubbins`;she keeps holding her head 719676;1402838958;fluffypony;nubbins`: do you live in the Bronx of Canada? 719677;1402838984;chetty;give the poor woman some water 719678;1402839014;nubbins`;fluffypony, after a fashion 719679;1402839023;nubbins`;chetty, it'll just encourage her 719680;1402839033;nubbins`;although i'll probably spray her with some water if she doesn't move on soon 719681;1402839055;Mats_cd03;shake your walker at her too 719682;1402839060;nubbins`;heh 719683;1402839147;fluffypony;hah hah 719684;1402839514;nubbins`;oh fuck someone gave her a sandwich 719685;1402839522;nubbins`;WHY 719686;1402839579;kakobrekla;so much compassion :) 719687;1402839795;nubbins`;compassion == me letting her stay there thus far 719688;1402840455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018501 = 0.185 BTC [+] 719689;1402840688;assbot;KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 719690;1402840733;kakobrekla;!up KRS1 719691;1402840952;nubbins`;sweet, she moved on 719692;1402841011;assbot;KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 719693;1402841146;danielpbarron;!up KRS1 719694;1402841211;KRS1;thank anyway danielpbarron, apparently I'm not "elite" enough for this channel..and i don't want to waste any more of kakobrekla's precious fucking time. 719695;1402841246;kakobrekla;stop being retarded. 719696;1402841286;nubbins`;pull up a chair and stay a while 719697;1402841305;nubbins`;it's not like people won't !up you all day :D 719698;1402841306;chetty;having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew 719699;1402841320;nubbins`;chetty: it's not?! ;D 719700;1402841339;chetty;../sarcasm 719701;1402841349;*;fluffypony polishes his elite GPG key 719702;1402841354;KRS1;Thanks but I can't nubbins, my wot rating isn't good enough to stay. Chetty: You need a better WOT rating. (level 2 with assbot >0) 719703;1402841355;fluffypony;navy seals grade 719704;1402841377;nubbins`;now you're just being silly, you don't need a wot rating to stay 719705;1402841388;nubbins`;it just makes a couple things more convenient 719706;1402841413;chetty;!up KRS1 719707;1402841437;nubbins`;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs1 719708;1402841438;assbot;Rating Details for User 'krs1' 719709;1402841446;nubbins`;This user has not authenticated for more than 164 days :0 719710;1402841481;nubbins`;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs-1 719711;1402841481;assbot;Rating Details for User 'krs-1' 719712;1402841488;nubbins`;This user has not authenticated for more than 219 days :00000 719713;1402841675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4635 @ 0.00007999 = 0.3708 BTC [+] 719714;1402841688;danielpbarron;KRS1, it looks to me like kakobrekla voice you first; I'm not sure why would would have a problem with him.. 719715;1402841736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26487 @ 0.00083111 = 22.0136 BTC [+] {2} 719716;1402841848;KRS1;danielpbarron: you are right..he did respond to me. 719717;1402841909;KRS1;guess it was the "way" he did it 719718;1402841932;KRS1;its cool tho..im gonna shuffle off now 719719;1402841976;fluffypony;shuffle off your mortal coil? 719720;1402841989;nubbins`;kako's pretty ornery 719721;1402841993;nubbins`;here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH 719722;1402841993;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 719723;1402842005;fluffypony;lol 719724;1402842016;nubbins`;you can't really tell, but he's wearing dockers and a leather belt 719725;1402842279;nubbins`;sup [\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\] 719726;1402842287;nubbins`;!up [\\\] 719727;1402842290;nubbins`;!up arij 719728;1402842934;nubbins`;!up Dimsler 719729;1402842957;kakobrekla;yeah, i should get a pipe. 719730;1402843017;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.22754774 = 1.1377 BTC [-] {3} 719731;1402843200;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22793133 = 0.6838 BTC [+] {2} 719732;1402843261;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.22963226 = 4.1334 BTC [+] {6} 719733;1402843383;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1213 @ 0.00083344 = 1.011 BTC [+] 719734;1402843383;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0018501 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {2} 719735;1402843384;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.075 = 4.05 BTC [-] {2} 719736;1402843505;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0753 = 0.9036 BTC [+] 719737;1402844286;thestringpuller;!MPIF 719738;1402844298;thestringpuller;!mpif 719739;1402844299;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021658 BTC (Total: 433.17 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 719740;1402844347;thestringpuller;nubbins`: around? 719741;1402844589;nubbins`;yep 719742;1402844786;thestringpuller;how much for the shirt now? 719743;1402844809;thestringpuller;;;calc [ticker --last] * 2$ 719744;1402844810;gribble;Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 719745;1402844813;thestringpuller;;;calc [ticker --last] * 25 719746;1402844814;gribble;13997 719747;1402844834;thestringpuller;;;calc 25 / [ticker --last] 719748;1402844835;gribble;0.0446524255198 719749;1402844856;thestringpuller;nubbins`: ^-- 719750;1402845029;nubbins`;^ 719751;1402845038;nubbins`;1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG 719752;1402845169;thestringpuller;kay one moment 719753;1402845274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 755 @ 0.0018501 = 1.3968 BTC [+] 719754;1402845301;thestringpuller;sent 719755;1402845319;thestringpuller;OH CRAP 719756;1402845323;thestringpuller;there is no fee on it is there :( 719757;1402845333;thestringpuller;c6fa408cf3ace5839a367b678286cd0aab064ac6a8288bc80ed9acf4ae20aadc 719758;1402845364;thestringpuller;oh well nubbins` it'll get there evenutally 719759;1402845428;kakobrekla;learn to no fee 719760;1402845457;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10387 @ 0.00082996 = 8.6208 BTC [-] 719761;1402845518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.0018501 = 0.1203 BTC [+] 719762;1402845762;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07529999 = 0.1506 BTC [-] 719763;1402845869;mircea_popescu; <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots << o ya kako please add empy 719764;1402845889;mircea_popescu; mircea_popescu: around? << aye 719765;1402845919;mircea_popescu; no << you're fucked. 719766;1402845969;kakobrekla;yes i was on it but got distracted 719767;1402845974;kakobrekla;what is the bots name again 719768;1402845976;nubbins`;thestringpuller: no rush. pm your shipping info when ready 719769;1402845990;mircea_popescu; having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew << damn straight., 719770;1402846003;kakobrekla;ah empyex 719771;1402846010;kakobrekla;i suck reading 719772;1402846043;thestringpuller;http://www.designboom.com/competition/deutsche-bank-future-banking/ 719773;1402846043;assbot;DEUTSCHE BANK - Future Banking 719774;1402846045;nubbins`;i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating 719775;1402846064;thestringpuller;;;gettrust nubbins` 719776;1402846065;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 719777;1402846069;nubbins`;JUST KIDDING :D 719778;1402846084;kakobrekla;Naphex chanserv doesnt like you 719779;1402846158;mircea_popescu; here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH << actually he looks like that guy when he was 30ish :D 719780;1402846159;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 719781;1402846184;nubbins`;no joke, that pic came from a site called "gay gamer" 719782;1402846193;thestringpuller;oh nubbins` do you have a mockup of what it looks like with the #bitcoin-assets printed on it? 719783;1402846205;mircea_popescu;<nubbins`> i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating << tru story ? 719784;1402846212;nubbins`;mp, all lies ;( 719785;1402846236;mircea_popescu;np, it shall be perpetuated as truth regardless. 719786;1402846241;nubbins`;thestringpuller: i forgot to take pix. same font, smaller, "irc.freenode.net" with "#bitcoin-assets" underneath, just below top collar 719787;1402846246;*;nubbins` nods 719788;1402846250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07529999 = 0.6024 BTC [-] 719789;1402846257;thestringpuller;on back or front? 719790;1402846259;nubbins`;back 719791;1402846263;thestringpuller;nice 719792;1402846267;thestringpuller;hmm i like that 719793;1402846278;thestringpuller;i'll take the optinal channel label! 719794;1402846283;nubbins`;right on 719795;1402846308;*;mircea_popescu remembers when people were pissed off at hashking on the forum for stealing all their bitcoinz, and some forumer said he sounds like he's 14 and he sarcastically said o no he's 15. formonths afterwards ppl were like 15 yo stole our monyz!!11 in all seriousness. 719796;1402846336;nubbins`;heh 719797;1402846341;nubbins`;dangerous things, words 719798;1402846357;mircea_popescu;especially not mine. 719799;1402846368;nubbins`;thestringpuller: pm address and i'll get it printed & sent off within the next few days 719800;1402846380;nubbins`;oh and what size! 719801;1402846383;thestringpuller;kay. lets wait for 1 confirm first 719802;1402846385;thestringpuller;hmmm 719803;1402846389;thestringpuller;sizes always vary 719804;1402846393;nubbins`;standard gildan shirts 719805;1402846401;*;kakobrekla still thinks hashking was 13 719806;1402846406;thestringpuller;XD 719807;1402846407;mircea_popescu;i was thinking, "he'll have to think about that" 719808;1402846412;nubbins`;if you're not sure, opt for a larger size, they'll shrink a bit in the wash 719809;1402846422;thestringpuller;i'll do a large then 719810;1402846425;nubbins`;k 719811;1402846455;thestringpuller;the other shirts I had printed were medium in fruit of the loom, my lanky arms make it uncomfortable sometimes XD 719812;1402846455;mircea_popescu;hm, 16 core cpus are cool just because you get to watch the colored lines if you feel like it 719813;1402846466;nubbins`;FTL are a notoriously bad fit :D 719814;1402846617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3687 @ 0.0008323 = 3.0687 BTC [+] 719815;1402846652;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla afaik he was some neighbour of gigavps' or some shit 719816;1402846679;kakobrekla;a. 719817;1402847127;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/L4gH8Eg.gif 719818;1402847348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0753 = 0.4518 BTC [+] 719819;1402847387;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 719820;1402847388;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 555.88, Best ask: 557.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.77000, Last trade: 556.11, 24 hour volume: 13359.55845610, 24 hour low: 538.38, 24 hour high: 576.64, 24 hour vwap: 556.282040898 719821;1402847417;nubbins`;wow 719822;1402847758;FabianB;$unconfirmed 719823;1402847759;empyex;FabianB: 749 719824;1402847767;FabianB;thanks kakobrekla 719825;1402847769;thestringpuller;$depth MPIF 719826;1402847770;empyex;thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eJBMcTug 719827;1402847786;mircea_popescu;nice 719828;1402847811;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 719829;1402847811;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 1000 @ 0.00021562 10000 @ 0.00021561 719830;1402847812;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 719831;1402847833;mircea_popescu;quite. 719832;1402847878;FabianB;$conference 719833;1402847879;empyex;FabianB: Next conference starts in 10 months and 2 days. Estimated cost today: 2.36415088 BTC 719834;1402847881;FabianB;$avg 719835;1402847881;empyex;FabianB: 558.34 719836;1402847893;mircea_popescu;yay haha 719837;1402847897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07500033 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2} 719838;1402847898;mircea_popescu;;;rated FabianB 719839;1402847898;gribble;You rated user FabianB on Tue Mar 25 20:11:54 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc. 719840;1402848019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.88642160 BTC to 8`820 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 719841;1402848385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8013 @ 0.00083113 = 6.6598 BTC [-] 719842;1402848812;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.075 = 1.5 BTC [-] {2} 719843;1402848873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-] 719844;1402849239;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.02019999 = 0.1212 BTC [-] {2} 719845;1402849666;mircea_popescu;http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/ 719846;1402849666;assbot;X.EUR June 15th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is 719847;1402849671;mircea_popescu;davout is nao reporting nicely. 719848;1402849680;mircea_popescu;pankkake addition to irker ? 719849;1402849853;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing << now i'm curious 719850;1402849864;mircea_popescu;aha ? 719851;1402849916;asciilifeform;well, herr newton, etc. rising up from the ranks 719852;1402849960;mircea_popescu;so a bunch of spanish peasants burnt down mexico city. 719853;1402849968;mircea_popescu;they... rose up from the ranks. 719854;1402849992;asciilifeform;lol 719855;1402849998;mircea_popescu;well ? 719856;1402850006;mircea_popescu;what's hernan cortes' merit ? 719857;1402850030;asciilifeform;point 719858;1402850036;*;asciilifeform still no confucian 719859;1402850048;mircea_popescu;merit only exists in a measuring context. the choice of a measuring context is political. 719860;1402850051;mircea_popescu;merit isn't a thing. 719861;1402850082;chetty;unless of course its yours 719862;1402850112;asciilifeform;btw, anyone following the discussion who is unfamiliar with 'simulated annealing' method of mathematical wizardry, should open a book and quickly become familiar 719863;1402850118;asciilifeform;it relates. 719864;1402850123;penguirker;New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/ 719865;1402850192;mircea_popescu;danke 719866;1402850215;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0018501 = 0.111 BTC [+] 719867;1402850226;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the space isn't discrete tho. 719868;1402850250;asciilifeform;? 719869;1402850276;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00203017 = 0.203 BTC [+] {4} 719870;1402850342;mircea_popescu;isn't this the probabilistic thing that finds the shortest path going through one city or we ? 719871;1402850350;asciilifeform;more general than this 719872;1402850377;mircea_popescu;ok, let's rephrase 719873;1402850377;asciilifeform;picture a toy plastic 'landscape' with hills and valleys, and a couple of ball bearings 719874;1402850384;asciilifeform;you want to find the valleys. so you shake it. 719875;1402850393;asciilifeform;the ball bearings will, ideally, end up in the valleys 719876;1402850403;asciilifeform;but may very well get stuck in 'local minima' 719877;1402850414;asciilifeform;so the question becomes, how vigorously to shake. 719878;1402850416;mircea_popescu;the domains are not discrete ; the functions defined on them are not monotonous nor even differentiable. 719879;1402850447;mircea_popescu;the problem of merit is not analysable. 719880;1402850463;mircea_popescu;i suppose that's a much better statement than "merit isn't a thing" 719881;1402850467;asciilifeform;it's analysable in degenerate cases 719882;1402850476;mircea_popescu;degenerate cases aren't part of it. 719883;1402850483;asciilifeform;e.g. we don't know the ideal temperature for a living planet, but we can be pretty sure it isn't 10K 719884;1402850499;mircea_popescu;this is part of the non-differentiability, it does not contain its degenerate cases. 719885;1402850504;asciilifeform;(or 5000K) 719886;1402850515;mircea_popescu;right. which were never part of the discussion of the ideal temperature anyway 719887;1402850531;mircea_popescu;basically, this is a magical set that never includes its margins 719888;1402850536;mircea_popescu;no matter how they may be defined 719889;1402850546;mircea_popescu;and while it includes a subset, and all its members, 719890;1402850549;asciilifeform;i'd say, if mr. newton can't do his thing because the city burns every tuesday, we're at '5000k' 719891;1402850553;mircea_popescu;it doesn't include the margins of any subset 719892;1402850574;asciilifeform;if he can't do his thing because he's worn a zombie collar from birth and knows his place in the uranium mines, we're at 10. 719893;1402850643;mircea_popescu;which i suppose is a very good formalisation of what i mean by "not analysable" : imagine a set of numbers which includes an order property, but excludes the highest and lowest member in any subset. 719894;1402850678;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i know exactly what mathematical contrievance you have in mind, just not convinced that it applies here 719895;1402850725;mircea_popescu;well if you were what'd we talk about :) 719896;1402850731;asciilifeform;lel 719897;1402850734;mircea_popescu;i'd be stuck getting back to this blogpost which is already too big anyway 719898;1402850773;thestringpuller;oooh more trilema to read 719899;1402850784;thestringpuller;trilema us father's day edition (jk) 719900;1402850822;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller i only fuck whores anyway. they're no longer fertile on the grounds of all the countless abortions back when they were 16. 719901;1402850825;mircea_popescu;(jk) 719902;1402850850;thestringpuller;for some reason I don't think you're kidding :D 719903;1402850878;thestringpuller;since that seems to be the case, they try to plan a pregnancy for once then the OBGYN asks, "Well how many abortions have you had?" 719904;1402850903;thestringpuller;"Maybe motherhood isn't for you...have you considered adoption?" 719905;1402850919;asciilifeform;uterus odometer? 719906;1402850936;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0EW7X9.txt ) 719907;1402850936;thestringpuller;!b 1 719908;1402851008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [-] 719909;1402851009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-] 719910;1402851663;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/french-pm-warns-disgruntled-socialists-could-disappear-165303556.html;_ylt=AwrBEiKVf5xTez8Ao1HQtDMD 719911;1402851665;assbot;French PM warns disgruntled Socialists they could "disappear" - Yahoo News 719912;1402851670;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ 719913;1402852018;mircea_popescu;they should be happy to merely disappear 719914;1402852035;mircea_popescu;the actual risk is that they're getting rounded up and sent to extermination labour camps. 719915;1402852062;asciilifeform;isn't that what is traditionally meant in this context for 'disappear' ? 719916;1402852080;asciilifeform;desaparecido. 719917;1402852184;mircea_popescu;i doubt very much he meant that. 719918;1402852211;mircea_popescu;for that matter, the gulag shall be quite public. webcams everywhere, with ample explanation as to what the criminal did. 719919;1402852230;asciilifeform;'would you, could you, in the zoo?' 719920;1402852247;mircea_popescu;there should be a term, incidentally. 719921;1402852253;asciilifeform;zoolag. 719922;1402852295;mircea_popescu;how do you say fascists in russian, except to denote not the folk that derped with hitler but the folk that dared propose the solutions to human problems are to be expected from groups rather than individuals ? and in english. 719923;1402852311;[]bot;Bet created: "Li Na wins Wimbledon" http://bitbet.us/bet/945/ 719924;1402852381;chetty;usually its the socialists and their various cousins that do the 'camps' thing. Can you think of a historical time they got the bad end of that deal? 719925;1402852390;asciilifeform;spain? 719926;1402852422;mircea_popescu;plenty of them. 719927;1402852428;mircea_popescu;it all starts in rome. 719928;1402852429;asciilifeform;(or at least the spain pictured in 'homage to catalonia') 719929;1402852457;mircea_popescu;feeding the christians to the lions was perhaps insufficient, but nevertheless in the right vein. 719930;1402852481;asciilifeform;we're rather long on christians and short on lions. 719931;1402852497;mircea_popescu;the death of sir thomas moore, a fine example. 719932;1402852565;*;asciilifeform can think of plenty of good candidates for zoolag 719933;1402852577;mircea_popescu;i bet you you can't. 719934;1402852591;mircea_popescu;stalin managed what, ten million out of fifty ? 719935;1402852601;asciilifeform;well, depends on what's a good candidate. does the exhibit need to be pretty to look at ? 719936;1402852608;mircea_popescu;you need tocome up with about 200 million names. 719937;1402852632;asciilifeform;let them recommend each other. like the social network derpatrons. 719938;1402852649;mircea_popescu;which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940 719939;1402852650;asciilifeform;in fact, this is sorta how the 'prior art' worked. 719940;1402852653;mircea_popescu;and their families 719941;1402852662;mircea_popescu;indeed so. 719942;1402852684;mircea_popescu;problem is, even if you put obama on the glory chair, he might not be able to remember who the fuck was in his cabinet 719943;1402852709;chetty; which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940/uhg 719944;1402852736;mircea_popescu;chetty well what, you expect to make omlette without breaking out some soviets ? 719945;1402852780;chetty;no, but I ain't volunteering to march off to zoolag either 719946;1402852814;asciilifeform;problem, as seen in soviet example, is that you eventually run out of 'class enemies' and the meat grinder is still standing, well-oiled. then you have korolev doing time 719947;1402852860;asciilifeform;incidentally, stalin's '30s purges are almost universally misinterpreted. he was trying to close down the meatgrinder. 719948;1402852874;asciilifeform;by butchering the staff 719949;1402852875;chetty;absolutely, the meatgrinder is a bureaucracy like any other, and they don't die easy 719950;1402852876;asciilifeform;(didn't work) 719951;1402852878;mircea_popescu;in general, in pursuit of an idea the bone gets picked rather closely of meat. 719952;1402852902;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform someone needs to write an actual biography of stalin sometime. 719953;1402852910;asciilifeform;give it another century. 719954;1402852917;asciilifeform;'Great Chiefs of the Iron Age' 719955;1402852919;mircea_popescu;all extant ones that i know of are written by dumbstruck idiots who think the man was somehow grand 719956;1402852926;mircea_popescu;the man was not grand in any sense. he was merelysimple. 719957;1402852935;mircea_popescu;the mental model for stalin is roughly speaking a 15 yo country boy. 719958;1402852982;asciilifeform;;;google "great chiefs of the iron age" 719959;1402852983;gribble;Tribal chief - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; CHAPTER 10: LATER IRON AGE STATES AND ... - Palgrave: ; Ancient Egyptian raw materials: metals - copper, bronze, iron, gold ...: 719960;1402852985;mircea_popescu;somehow ends up in the laboratory of power, obviously he pushes that ftizic trotsky aside. why not ? 719961;1402852986;asciilifeform;fail 719962;1402852999;mircea_popescu;and then, kinda is constantly scared by and trying to escape his own creations 719963;1402853062;asciilifeform;phun phact. russian truck drivers had portraits of stalin in their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now. 719964;1402853104;asciilifeform;to the folks who didn't get dinged, he stood for... order. the empire having its shit together in some form. etc 719965;1402853132;mircea_popescu;yup 719966;1402853148;asciilifeform;'Whether because of its historical traditions or for some other reason, the idea of self-government, of equality before the law and of personal freedom--and the responsibility that goes with these--are almost completely incomprehensible to the Russian people...To the majority of the people the very word 'freedom' is synonymous with 'disorder' or the opportunity to indulge with impunity in some kind of antisocial 719967;1402853148;asciilifeform;or dangerous activity.' 719968;1402853166;mircea_popescu;the empire wanted (correctly) its sovereignity invested properly 719969;1402853168;mircea_popescu;and so it was. 719970;1402853170;asciilifeform;(amalrik, 'Will the Soviet Union Survive 1984') 719971;1402853209;mircea_popescu;i vote for "other reason" : because it's fucking dumb, that's why. 719972;1402853219;mircea_popescu;not only does it not work, but it provably can not work. 719973;1402853219;asciilifeform;aye 719974;1402853230;asciilifeform;the supposed 'savages' get it. 719975;1402853237;asciilifeform;and the 'civilized man' - not so much. 719976;1402853238;mircea_popescu;as is generally the case. 719977;1402853255;mircea_popescu;one does not bother to call another barbar unless the another said something that really scared our one. 719978;1402853264;mircea_popescu;and you don't get scared by imagination. 719979;1402853273;asciilifeform;civilized man has to overcome his OD on coke, or reddit, or whatever, to make the jump. 719980;1402853282;mircea_popescu;nature makes no jumps. 719981;1402853307;mircea_popescu;civilised man shall have his dawn, and a proper burial. 719982;1402853335;kakobrekla;!up ronkrt 719983;1402853600;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,929. 719984;1402853689;asciilifeform;http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/oadam/33724550/105705/105705_original.gif 719985;1402853790;asciilifeform;http://img11.nnm.me/1/f/7/7/1/38cec3b3fd4898c951e2ee8b9ea_prev.jpg 719986;1402853809;asciilifeform;^ translation: 'this is comrade stalin. you must know because of whom you still live.' 719987;1402853875;mircea_popescu;they had the same of nicholas 719988;1402853903;asciilifeform;until he pissed away the realm 719989;1402854011;mircea_popescu;i blame his cousin or what was it 719990;1402854023;mircea_popescu;the general of moscow 719991;1402854071;chetty;MP makes me sad, I can see the truth of much but it is hard to swallow happily, and that I guess is what drives the libs in the end. Truth hurts 719992;1402854351;mircea_popescu;!up olliec 719993;1402854651;chetty;"Some babies (aka fetuses) get their brains sucked out at birth. Others (aka Fulbights) get their brains sucked out at Berkely." (anonymous) 719994;1402854703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0753 = 1.0542 BTC [+] 719995;1402855741;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.075 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2} 719996;1402855798;mircea_popescu;lol 719997;1402856234;asciilifeform;chetty: mp is rather like a surgeon - if surgeon could cry, he could not work - somethinglikethat 719998;1402856716;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.0008333 = 18.1659 BTC [+] {3} 719999;1402856719;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: is there a zero asset corporstion blog post? 720000;1402856741;mircea_popescu;no. 720001;1402856748;thestringpuller;;;google site:trilema.com the zero asset corporation 720002;1402856749;gribble;Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard ...: ; BitBet, May 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: 720007;1402857074;benkay;;;later tell vexual yes that's interesting zone right there hmu 720008;1402857075;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720009;1402857423;benkay; talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. < grand refinement 720010;1402857895;kakobrekla;is that supposed to be sarcastic? 720011;1402857909;Apocalyptic;hard to tell 720012;1402858019;kakobrekla;dunno maybe he is 13 too. 720013;1402858337;benkay;* fluffypony polishes his elite GPG key // so leet 720014;1402858409;benkay;Mats_cd03: and you were recently giving me a hard time about crypto. mhmmmmmmmm. 720015;1402859583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0747627 = 2.9157 BTC [-] {3} 720016;1402860079;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/vreau-sa-mi-spui-frumoasa-zaraza/ 720017;1402861108;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00082927 = 2.3452 BTC [-] 720018;1402862633;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 447 @ 0.023 = 10.281 BTC [-] {2} 720019;1402862755;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 133 @ 0.023 = 3.059 BTC [-] 720020;1402862816;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-] 720021;1402862825;FabianB;$help 720022;1402862825;empyex;FabianB: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth ' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post ' '$proxies' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap ' 720023;1402862877;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.023 = 4.6 BTC [-] 720024;1402863426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07357817 = 0.7358 BTC [-] {2} 720025;1402863609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0735789 = 0.8094 BTC [+] {2} 720026;1402863792;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.074 = 1.036 BTC [+] {2} 720027;1402863975;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00082801 = 24.0951 BTC [-] {4} 720028;1402864525;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00082608 = 4.0065 BTC [-] 720029;1402865317;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 153 @ 0.02099346 = 3.212 BTC [+] {4} 720030;1402866378;BingoBoingo;%ticker 720031;1402866381;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 235 VWAP: 235 720032;1402866781;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 70 @ 0.04405928 = 3.0841 BTC [-] 720033;1402867609;artifexd;I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here. 720034;1402867922;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 720035;1402867925;gribble;Current Blocks: 306006 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 425 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13029789422.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.83002 720036;1402868102;benkay;considered reporting when a bet total ratchets past integer btc at stake? in the same vein as the ticker bots accumulating trades under 1B 720037;1402868177;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.96067479 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.43833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,389. 720038;1402868408;artifexd;benkay: Bets within a certain period of time or in total? 720039;1402868465;benkay;in total, I was thinking. 720040;1402868478;benkay;there may be better approaches, artifexd 720041;1402868549;artifexd;Yeah. They don't happen often enough to consolidate, yet. 720042;1402868852;Mats_cd03;benkay: ncurses is p annoying i am reconsidering working on bit-c ;( 720043;1402868978;benkay;nooooo 720044;1402869005;benkay;ui in general is 10x more annoying than other things 720045;1402869059;punkman;I made my first curses app today 720046;1402869109;punkman;using this Urwid library, it's nice but not nice enough 720047;1402869118;punkman;there must be something better 720048;1402869691;benkay;if only there were a reactive ncurses thing 720049;1402869732;benkay;Mats_cd03: does bit-c have anything resembling a usable api? 720050;1402869842;Mats_cd03;no but parts of the jsonrpc code is written 720051;1402870027;Mats_cd03;wat is 'reactive' 720052;1402870046;Mats_cd03;is this some web4.0 720053;1402871216;bitcoinpete;dat hashrate 720054;1402871223;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/nB0rMkF.png 720055;1402871226;nubbins`;dat tux 720056;1402871233;bitcoinpete;>103 ph/s 720057;1402871260;bitcoinpete;tux =/ suit 720058;1402871270;nubbins`;i meant the magical type of tux 720059;1402871287;nubbins`;;;gettrust bitcoinpete magicaltux 720060;1402871287;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010 720061;1402871387;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: eh i must've missed that in the logs… what's the story? 720062;1402871402;nubbins`;:( 720063;1402871405;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,270. 720064;1402871409;nubbins`;;;google magicaltux 720065;1402871409;gribble;Mark Karpeles (MagicalTux) on Twitter: ; MagicalTux (Mark Karpeles) · GitHub: ; overview for MagicalTux - Reddit: 720066;1402871415;thestringpuller;;;gettrust magicaltux 720067;1402871415;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010 720068;1402871438;bitcoinpete;;;seen magicaltux 720069;1402871438;gribble;I have not seen magicaltux. 720070;1402871474;nubbins`;;;google mark karpeles 720071;1402871475;gribble;Mark Karpelès - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Mark Karpeles (MagicalTux) on Twitter: ; Mt Gox CEO Mark Karpeles 'Not Willing' To Go To America ...Yet ...: 720072;1402871482;nubbins`;&c, &c 720073;1402871482;gribble;Error: "c," is not a valid command. 720074;1402871484;nubbins`;oh shush 720075;1402871525;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/478121705391403008 720076;1402871527;assbot;Very nice sunset on Tokyo today http://t.co/3ygEIVkJwM 720077;1402871537;nubbins`;yeah 720078;1402871542;nubbins`;comments doubleplus good 720079;1402871542;fluffypony;VERY NICE 720080;1402871562;nubbins`;that's not actually the sun off in the distance 720081;1402871571;nubbins`;it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke nerds 720082;1402871579;bitcoinpete;lol those comments… "fuck you fatass!" 720083;1402871637;bitcoinpete;it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke doods who can't download and backup multibit 720084;1402871745;benkay;Mats_cd03: it's a mathematical formalism for talking about systems that evolve over time in response to inputs. 720085;1402871757;benkay;Mats_cd03: consider a program that's essentially a function of a time series of events 720086;1402871827;bitcoinpete;so the australian securities exchange has completely lost its marbles 720087;1402871838;bitcoinpete;"DigitalBTC, which began as a mining operation but also engages in bitcoin trading and is developing retail and consumer applications, debuted on the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX) this morning as Digital CC Limited (trading as digitalBTC) (ASX code: DCC)." 720088;1402871842;benkay;Mats_cd03: reactive:imperative::ragel:a pile of regexes 720089;1402871862;benkay;of course asciilifeform will tell me that someone came up with the notion in the fifties and everyone forgot all about it 720090;1402871877;bitcoinpete;"Legal requirements for the listing will make digitalBTC “the most transparent bitcoin company around”, according to a spokesperson." << and the biggest! fastest! 720091;1402871948;bitcoinpete;http://www.coindesk.com/digitalbtc-makes-history-australian-stock-market-debut/ 720092;1402871948;assbot;DigitalBTC Makes History With Australian Stock Market Debut 720093;1402871997;kakobrekla;now i have a problem. how do i describe a thing that actually is biggest, first, best and so on. 720094;1402872105;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: with data, i suppose. 720095;1402872109;bitcoinpete;http://www.digitalbtc.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/03/March-2014-Quarterly-Update.pdf 720096;1402872133;bitcoinpete;digitalbtc lost $649k in the last 9 months. win! 720097;1402872177;bitcoinpete;thankfully, they made $1.6m from the share sale 720098;1402872333;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07453442 = 0.7453 BTC [-] 720099;1402872334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00083202 = 2.7457 BTC [+] 720100;1402872384;nubbins`;phew 720101;1402872394;nubbins`;do that 9 more times and you've got $10mn 720102;1402872415;nubbins`;think of the respect that kind of coin would buy you 720103;1402872483;bitcoinpete;since they'll never get that $10m worth of coins, they gotta settle for dat ausbuck 720104;1402872603;bitcoinpete;argentina 1 - bosnia 0 720105;1402872609;bitcoinpete;at the half 720106;1402872615;*;mthreat watching it too 720107;1402872626;mthreat;i hear the neighbors make noise when they score 720108;1402872715;bitcoinpete;mthreat: where are you located again? 720109;1402872769;mthreat;buenos aires 720110;1402872794;mthreat;so when i say neighbors, I mean _all_ the neighbors 720111;1402872821;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00083202 = 7.405 BTC [+] 720112;1402872831;bitcoinpete;lol well ya 720113;1402874133;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 720114;1402874139;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 577.21, vol: 9761.74530252 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 582.001, vol: 6303.49953 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 14402.56292735 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 586.08, vol: 39.0372826 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 584.108, vol: 4206.21900000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 589.547, vol: 36.0798484 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 579.2524932, vol: 47.95354313 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 720115;1402874141;BingoBoingo;;;more 720116;1402874141;gribble;581.747656914 720117;1402874324;BingoBoingo;%book 720118;1402874326;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 720119;1402874511;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: what happened to the MPOE may statement? 720120;1402874834;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00082914 = 13.515 BTC [-] {2} 720121;1402875178;benkay;thestringpuller: it's coming next month. see logs ;) 720122;1402875688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.07317701 = 2.5612 BTC [-] {7} 720123;1402875878;thestringpuller;benkay: thx found it 720124;1402875886;thestringpuller;didn't know though there'd be a trilema post 720125;1402875993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07036291 = 2.1109 BTC [-] {6} 720126;1402877985;thestringpuller;%diff 720127;1402877988;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 438803.55 in 889 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.66 720128;1402878403;BingoBoingo;https://chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=53051.0 720129;1402878404;assbot;Dry Erase Boards vs. Chalk Boards 720130;1402878799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21966306 = 1.5376 BTC [-] {4} 720131;1402879043;mircea_popescu;o hai ass ets 720132;1402879058;mircea_popescu; I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here. << :p 720133;1402879058;BingoBoingo;o hai 720134;1402879133;mircea_popescu;lol noboy voiced * pmarcup (~circuser-@12.130.117.131) has joined #bitcoin-assets ? what if it was teh horowitz guy ? 720135;1402879184;BingoBoingo;http://oglaf.com/ladder/ 720136;1402879185;assbot;ladder 720137;1402879216;BingoBoingo;Well, did pmarcup ask anyone for voice? 720138;1402879301;mircea_popescu;i dun get it ;/ 720139;1402879304;BingoBoingo;The simplest test for having a minimal level of participation in this channel is now, when realizing you can't speak can you ask someone online to offer you voice. It's such a low barrier to entry that... If the Horowitz guy could not solve that problem... 720140;1402879345;mircea_popescu;this is a point 720141;1402879359;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 720142;1402879362;gribble;Current Blocks: 306036 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 395 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13088465973.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.32912 720143;1402879405;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves had it, look at the hash explosion 720144;1402879467;BingoBoingo;Coin Terra's data center is in Utah. I wonder how much hash they have out there in the desert... 720145;1402879497;mircea_popescu;is ghash still 50% ? 720146;1402879531;BingoBoingo;I haven't looked. 720147;1402879531;mircea_popescu; so the australian securities exchange has completely lost its marbles << why ? they wanna compete in the ghlobal markets. 720148;1402879573;mircea_popescu; thankfully, they made $1.6m from the share sale << kinda pathetic i guess. 720149;1402879619;mircea_popescu;* mthreat watching it too << dude everyone here was watching it, it was uncanny going down the streets and seeing everybody in all the eateries, bars, restaurants, everything just oriented the same way like it was fucking mecca 720150;1402879630;mircea_popescu;the waiters gathered round like they're not even working there 720151;1402879630;mircea_popescu;etc 720152;1402879751;mircea_popescu;under 40% now 720153;1402879814;mircea_popescu;ghash i mean 720154;1402879858;mircea_popescu;!up anthor_ 720155;1402880427;mthreat; ... everything just oriented the same way like it was fucking mecca << it's a religion... apparently in 1978 when they won the world cup, it was big a distraction as the government was kidnapping, torturing, and killing 30,000 "desaparecidos". 720156;1402880449;mircea_popescu;o which reminds me, whats with this bruno guy in peur 720157;1402880669;mircea_popescu;a ok, mental case. nm. 720158;1402880788;BingoBoingo;!up elliot_ 720159;1402880995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20934 @ 0.0008258 = 17.2873 BTC [-] {2} 720160;1402881605;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00082742 = 21.0992 BTC [+] 720161;1402883428;kakobrekla; under 40% now < thats whats published. 720162;1402883441;mircea_popescu;conspiraci ? 720163;1402883454;mircea_popescu;the over 50% that sent todd in a tizzy was also what's published. 720164;1402883482;kakobrekla;yes but its not a problem until you are at 50 720165;1402883550;kakobrekla;they supposedly turned off 20% of their power and total network is +11% 720166;1402883558;kakobrekla;not going well together 720167;1402883572;mircea_popescu;lol 720168;1402883593;asciilifeform;the notion that public knows anything about distribution of hash cycles - is a bit strange. 720169;1402883596;mircea_popescu;it's not just up 11% 720170;1402883607;kakobrekla;well whatever. 720171;1402883610;mircea_popescu;in fact, it's 11% over TWO WEEKS, when two days ago it was up 5% 720172;1402883620;mircea_popescu;so it made .06 of 14 days in one. it's up 100% 720173;1402883644;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform muy. 720174;1402883672;mircea_popescu;but quite in line with the presumptious ignorance of redditards. they also think they know things about politics, and even imagine they influence it. 720175;1402884015;thestringpuller;;;calc 20 * 180 720176;1402884015;gribble;3600 720177;1402884571;thestringpuller;do the redditards think they influenced the hash distribution? 720178;1402884583;asciilifeform;sure. 720179;1402884598;asciilifeform;(see the 40% figure) 720180;1402884602;Mats_cd03;spurs dominating :( 720181;1402884689;thestringpuller;go to r/bitcoin. digitalbtc is one of the top posts. bitcoinpete already destroyed it in the logs... 720182;1402884804;mircea_popescu;uh why destroyed ? 720183;1402884836;thestringpuller;+bitcoinpete> digitalbtc lost $649k in the last 9 months. win! << watching game of thrones when I read that, sorry i is no good with these things they call words 720184;1402884881;mircea_popescu;a, that. well... "pe investitii" 720185;1402885096;thestringpuller;random: i guess the accounting standard for the zero asset corporation is self explanatory? 720186;1402885482;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller should be. "1. distribute all income." 720187;1402885556;thestringpuller;ah, and of capital pool that is used to operate? (like the mpoe bond) 720188;1402885693;mircea_popescu;well that'd depend on the arrangement the bond has. it's not required or anything 720189;1402885739;thestringpuller;it seems beneficiary for people to see no? Is that more of a "Misc"? 720190;1402885813;mircea_popescu;not a matter of that dude, it just depends on how the bond is structured. as the bond is structured, so it is reported. 720191;1402885838;thestringpuller;understood. 720192;1402885841;thestringpuller;thank you. 720193;1402885843;mircea_popescu;not all an0 have to have some sort of mpoe bond equivalnent just becaue mpoe did 720194;1402885915;thestringpuller;yea but if the company isn't required to hold assets to operate then... 720195;1402885927;mircea_popescu;that's what an0 is. no assets. 720196;1402885927;thestringpuller;doesn't require* (not isn't) 720197;1402885942;mircea_popescu;uh a0 i mean 720198;1402885951;thestringpuller;okay sorry was confused there for a second 720199;1402885997;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29069 @ 0.00082773 = 24.0613 BTC [+] {3} 720200;1402886766;mircea_popescu;!up anthor_ 720201;1402886790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0729998 = 1.46 BTC [-] 720202;1402888254;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29876 @ 0.00082657 = 24.6946 BTC [-] {2} 720203;1402888422;nubbins`;;;view 720204;1402888424;gribble;#20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.042584 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) 720205;1402888571;mircea_popescu;such a delightful insider joke that :D 720206;1402888593;nubbins`;not unpopular so far, either 720207;1402888681;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26230 @ 0.00082336 = 21.5967 BTC [-] {3} 720208;1402888787;mircea_popescu;curious if they end up collector's items lol 720209;1402888913;mircea_popescu;%book 720210;1402888915;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 720211;1402888916;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/IhcV6Fc.jpg 720212;1402888925;mircea_popescu;hmm how did you get the volume again ? 720213;1402888933;nubbins`;unsure 720214;1402888936;mircea_popescu;someone should put on their blog a complete guide of all the commands for all the bots 720215;1402888942;mircea_popescu;that'd be one hell of a reference piece 720216;1402888949;mircea_popescu;actually, it should go in the wiki tbh 720217;1402888954;mircea_popescu;;;seen moiety 720218;1402888954;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 hours, 41 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it? 720219;1402888961;nubbins`;wiki would be the place 720220;1402889008;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety hey, when you have a moment mebbe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2014#720214 720221;1402889008;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 720222;1402889008;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720223;1402889022;mircea_popescu;this thing's grown so complex by now it defies memory. 720224;1402889046;mircea_popescu;actually i should prolly bitch at botmasters too. 720225;1402889095;mircea_popescu;FabianB and was atcbot mod6 iirc. who's running []bot artifexd ? 720226;1402889349;mod6;whats up mp? 720227;1402889389;mircea_popescu;mind putting a list of bot commands up on the wiki as part of a "chan bots commands page" ? 720228;1402889402;mircea_popescu;for atcbot i mean. it was yours wasn't it ? 720229;1402889420;mod6;yup. sure. I can work on that this week np. 720230;1402889425;mircea_popescu;ty 720231;1402889427;hanbot;mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ba-8-8.jpg << didja notice your nametag kinda looks like "histerp"? hipster misspelling mebbe 720232;1402889431;mod6;yw 720233;1402889605;mircea_popescu;hanbot shit it's actually "hipsters" anagram 720234;1402889622;mircea_popescu;now what do i do 720235;1402889652;artifexd;[]bot is mine! yes 720236;1402889697;artifexd;stupid autocorrect. 720237;1402889704;mircea_popescu;http://collarme.com/2014/05/hello-world/ << largest bdsm forum closes, apparently tons of drama 720238;1402889706;assbot;Where is Collarme? | Where is Collarme? 720239;1402889716;artifexd;[]bot is mine! yes. 720240;1402889719;mircea_popescu;artifexd mind putting a list of bot commands up on the wiki as part of a "chan bots commands page" ? 720241;1402889721;hanbot;maybe the hipsters'll start spelling it that way just for you mp. 720242;1402889776;artifexd;if I ever add commands, no problem. 720243;1402889834;mircea_popescu;o wait 720244;1402889841;mircea_popescu;i thjought it had some. 720245;1402889863;mircea_popescu;my bad. see, i have nfi what's going on even 720246;1402889931;artifexd;Shall I put something on there about it showing all bets created and bets placed in ##bitbet-rt ? 720247;1402889960;hanbot;this collarme closure thingie reads like a slightly more literate (though entirely as retarded) forum ipo pronouncement of lost marbles. 720248;1402889989;mircea_popescu;artifexd we prolly need a Bots megapage anyway. so this could go in botlist and then bot commands could be further down the page, as a list 720249;1402890000;mircea_popescu;hanbot you don' say. 720250;1402890005;mod6;mp: i'll work in a change so that it'll show bids/asks sub 1000 on the book command, instead of the 0s. 720251;1402890023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00082786 = 13.8253 BTC [+] 720252;1402890024;mircea_popescu;mod6 the 0's are kinda funny. and also you know, maybe one day Ms 720253;1402890041;mod6;i've got another change to merge in too, a bugfix to the time-since-last-block thing too. 720254;1402890101;bitstein;I shared this with bitcoinpete the other day. It's been a very influential essay for me since high school. It explains what I appreciate about groups like #bitcoin-assets. You guys should read it: http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/nock3b.html 720255;1402890102;assbot;Isaiah's Job by Albert Jay Nock 720256;1402890113;artifexd;;;later tell kakobrekla Can I get a wiki account please? 720257;1402890114;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720258;1402890149;mircea_popescu;so this collarme thing is basically... couple broke up, then the girl's new boyfriend insited on a contract... quite drama-y 720259;1402890274;hanbot;I continued to work on Collarme.com and even answered work emails while I was at the hospital in labor. 720260;1402890279;asciilifeform;as with all such stories, would be interesting to read the 'enemy' side 720261;1402890281;hanbot;where's the footage ffs 720262;1402890296;artifexd;Why would my dumb ass ipad autocorrect "[]bot is mine, yes" to "[]bot is mine! yes" TWICE!? 720263;1402890305;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform srsly. 720264;1402890322;mircea_popescu;artifexd try bitcoin-apple ? :D 720265;1402890355;mircea_popescu;holy shit, this got everything. tetralogy of fallot even 720266;1402890364;mthreat;bitstein: are you in Austin? 720267;1402890366;mircea_popescu;i vote best drama of the week award. 720268;1402890392;bitstein;mthreat: depends on who is asking 720269;1402890414;bitstein;(Yes, I am.) 720270;1402890449;mthreat;bitstein: just checking, i met you at one or two of the bitcoin meetups at central market 720271;1402890479;mthreat;bitstein: i'm living in argentina now, so i haven't been around there for a while 720272;1402890480;mircea_popescu;the small world. 720273;1402890511;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31135 @ 0.00082856 = 25.7972 BTC [+] {2} 720274;1402890521;bitstein;Ah, cool. Well hopefully I will see you in April then. 720275;1402890817;asciilifeform;if the woman owned the domain - why no fork ? 720276;1402890827;asciilifeform;why the lament page instead 720277;1402890839;asciilifeform;somehow this doesn't make sense 720278;1402890843;asciilifeform;(or i'm thick) 720279;1402890844;Apocalyptic;because theatrality 720280;1402890873;asciilifeform;fork, wait to be sued, win 720281;1402890912;asciilifeform;if her hands atrophied from grief, sure there's some fellow willing to do it for a % 720282;1402890997;asciilifeform;http://collarme.com/2014/05/an-attempt-to-answer-some-questions/#comment-1764 720283;1402891001;assbot;An attempt to answer some questions. | Where is Collarme? 720284;1402891002;asciilifeform;^ interesting 720285;1402891009;mircea_popescu;i've not got that far 720286;1402891020;mircea_popescu;<asciilifeform> why the lament page instead << she cnat coed. 720287;1402891033;mircea_popescu;also, woman with newborn. she can't do anything whatsoever. 720288;1402891053;asciilifeform;can presumably contract it out 720289;1402891118;mircea_popescu;from what i read, she already has. 720290;1402891121;mircea_popescu;guy ran off with the code. 720291;1402891122;asciilifeform;aha 720292;1402891179;asciilifeform;the thing, as i understand - is dead 720293;1402891191;asciilifeform;regardless of who sues/wins 720294;1402891225;asciilifeform;sucks for the aficionados. 720295;1402891225;mircea_popescu;twas kinda dead anyway. us moving to a new puritan paradigm. gays made it, bdsm-ers did not. 720296;1402891230;mircea_popescu;such a soviet. 720297;1402891247;asciilifeform;somebody's gotta be lowered into pederasty. what kind of russian prison can you run without this. 720298;1402891472;mircea_popescu;who was doing bitcoinj again ? 720299;1402891474;mircea_popescu;!up Blazedout419 720300;1402891477;mircea_popescu;!up blg 720301;1402891726;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I believe Hearn does bitcoinJ 720302;1402891736;mircea_popescu;myeah. 720303;1402891888;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the response from the op is... http://collarspace.com/ 720304;1402891890;assbot;LadyTerra15877 ree. no cost, no obligation. It might be the most important thing youdo this year !  720305;1402891897;mircea_popescu;new domain, nary a word. the end. 720306;1402891936;asciilifeform;who's surprised? 720307;1402891969;mircea_popescu;tbh i was kinda expectring moar drama, but hey. 720308;1402891976;mircea_popescu;they don't have a bitcoin price to pump up 720309;1402892338;Mats_cd03;new domain but the site sucks; lots of whitespace to my right on a 4:3 screen 720310;1402892648;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22623 @ 0.00082177 = 18.5909 BTC [-] {2} 720311;1402892770;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18277 @ 0.00082059 = 14.9979 BTC [-] 720312;1402892816;thestringpuller;;;ticker 720313;1402892817;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.0, Best ask: 592.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 592.2, 24 hour volume: 9345.60777045, 24 hour low: 552.11, 24 hour high: 597.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.809383939 720314;1402893319;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28508 @ 0.00082979 = 23.6557 BTC [+] {2} 720315;1402893503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4952 @ 0.00083193 = 4.1197 BTC [+] 720316;1402893784;thestringpuller;%diff 720317;1402893786;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 436334.06 in 875 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.01 720318;1402893796;thestringpuller;shit's gonna plummet 720319;1402893886;mircea_popescu;iirc it's usually at -70% 720320;1402893955;thestringpuller;it has to go up sometimes? 720321;1402894127;Apocalyptic;it did somthing like +400% at the previous diff periode 720322;1402894173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.0299999 = 0.9 BTC [+] {2} 720323;1402894234;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.20618858 = 8.8661 BTC [-] {9} 720324;1402894295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 68 @ 0.2005441 = 13.637 BTC [-] {8} 720325;1402894362;mircea_popescu;goes up 400% in like 3 days, then -70% over, predictably, fourish weeks 720326;1402894373;mircea_popescu;consequently, it spends most time at -70% 720327;1402894600;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9761 @ 0.00082185 = 8.0221 BTC [-] 720328;1402894950;Apocalyptic;;;later tell bitstein interesting essay, thank you 720329;1402894950;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720330;1402895210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00081935 = 27.4482 BTC [-] 720331;1402895515;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24447 @ 0.00082244 = 20.1062 BTC [+] {2} 720332;1402895881;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00081935 = 19.6644 BTC [-] 720333;1402896405;FabianB;kakobrekla: can i get a wiki account for bot documentation? 720334;1402896430;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 148 @ 0.07299964 = 10.8039 BTC [+] {2} 720335;1402896491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07299957 = 0.803 BTC [-] 720336;1402896552;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00081935 = 2.4581 BTC [-] 720337;1402896613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07185598 = 0.5748 BTC [-] 720338;1402899786;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21699945 = 0.868 BTC [+] {2} 720339;1402899846;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9741 @ 0.00008957 = 0.8725 BTC [+] {3} 720340;1402899968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10224 @ 0.00009919 = 1.0141 BTC [+] {4} 720341;1402900395;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27537 @ 0.00081956 = 22.5682 BTC [+] {2} 720342;1402900517;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07120222 = 0.712 BTC [-] 720343;1402900578;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0701102 = 0.7011 BTC [-] 720344;1402900822;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.06983312 = 1.1173 BTC [-] {8} 720345;1402900883;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.06802194 = 4.0813 BTC [-] {8} 720346;1402900944;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.066666 = 3.0666 BTC [-] 720347;1402902591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 57 @ 0.0295 = 1.6815 BTC [-] {3} 720348;1402902612;benkay;pretty sure i just did the biggest whole-app refactor of my life. 720349;1402902652;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.0295 = 0.649 BTC [-] 720350;1402903323;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00081873 = 18.9945 BTC [-] {3} 720351;1402903393;benkay;i have learned so much...veritably do i reel from the things i have now taught myself to never do again 720352;1402904822;jurov;;;bc,stats 720353;1402904824;gribble;Current Blocks: 306088 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13114734304.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.55256 720354;1402905458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10163 @ 0.00081745 = 8.3077 BTC [-] {2} 720355;1402906352;pankkake;The overwhelming evidence for the past year is that even if Ken Slaughter had good intention to produce miners, doing so was beyond his skill and organizational level and he soon began lying to us all. 720356;1402906376;pankkake;just what I told them months ago, as "why it's a scam" 720357;1402907341;pankkake;I have contacted MSD and am providng them with copies of emails in which Ken Slaughter made all sorts of promises to me. I have enough in the correspondence he wrote me to nail him to a wall. 720358;1402907345;pankkake;Earlier on, when Ken Slaughter needed money, he would write long emails to people. 720359;1402907348;pankkake;Luckily, I saved it all and it will all be forwarded to Mr. Johnson. 720360;1402907385;pankkake;I'd really like to see those emails 720361;1402907532;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3658 @ 0.00081578 = 2.9841 BTC [-] 720362;1402908752;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 19 @ 0.02984209 = 0.567 BTC [+] {2} 720363;1402908813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14892 @ 0.00081998 = 12.2111 BTC [+] 720364;1402908813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06998415 = 1.3997 BTC [+] 720365;1402908874;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.0719999 = 3.6 BTC [+] {3} 720366;1402909057;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19164 @ 0.0008166 = 15.6493 BTC [-] 720367;1402909301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24136 @ 0.00082224 = 19.8456 BTC [+] {3} 720368;1402909545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 25 @ 0.08 = 2 BTC [-] 720369;1402910277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7514 @ 0.00081506 = 6.1244 BTC [-] 720370;1402912046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081983 = 10.0839 BTC [+] 720371;1402912675;davout;kakobrekla: so what was the answer wrt the http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/ resolution in the case there is only a rebranding, and trading happens at paymium.com ? 720372;1402912675;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.37 B (4%) on Yes, 10.09 B (96%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 week| weight: 80`628 (100`000 to 1) 720373;1402912696;davout;;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2014#720371 720374;1402912697;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 720375;1402912697;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720376;1402913083;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00082396 = 14.0073 BTC [+] {2} 720377;1402913972;punkman;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/starbucks-to-provide-free-college-education-to-thousands-of-workers.html 720378;1402913975;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 720379;1402914055;punkman;too bad they didn't start their own university 720380;1402914674;punkman;;;later tell BingoBoingo this might interest you http://i.imgur.com/R0vZeC3.png 720381;1402914675;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720382;1402915645;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1200 @ 0.000451 = 0.5412 BTC [+] {2} 720383;1402916255;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07114285 = 0.996 BTC [-] {2} 720384;1402916743;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00082323 = 5.8038 BTC [-] 720385;1402916926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69283 @ 0.000827 = 57.297 BTC [+] {4} 720386;1402918329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.0008296 = 32.7692 BTC [+] {2} 720387;1402919244;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.23511045 = 3.2915 BTC [+] {10} 720388;1402919305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24283427 = 1.6998 BTC [+] {3} 720389;1402919306;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19128 @ 0.00082899 = 15.8569 BTC [-] 720390;1402919489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21518 @ 0.00082323 = 17.7143 BTC [-] 720391;1402919503;kakobrekla;;;later tell artifexd yes 720392;1402919503;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720393;1402919511;kakobrekla;;;later tell FabianB yes 720394;1402919512;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720395;1402919526;kakobrekla;;;late tell davout no fuckin clue. 720396;1402919526;gribble;Error: "late" is not a valid command. 720397;1402919532;kakobrekla;;;later tell davout no fuckin clue. 720398;1402919532;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720399;1402919571;artifexd;kakobrekla: how do I receive or create login creds? 720400;1402919583;kakobrekla;pm me your email 720401;1402919732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25983989 = 1.2992 BTC [+] 720402;1402920098;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.25983989 = 3.6378 BTC [+] 720403;1402920952;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81550 @ 0.00081836 = 66.7373 BTC [-] {5} 720404;1402921605;artifexd;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots <- bot authors, feel free to add your bots 720405;1402921605;assbot;irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki] 720406;1402921937;fluffypony;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/16/microsoft_catapult_fpgas/ 720407;1402921937;assbot;Microsoft Catapults geriatric Moore's Law from CERTAIN DEATH The Register 720408;1402921939;fluffypony;clever 720409;1402921963;fluffypony;they bolt an FPGA inside a server to offload specific tasks to it 720410;1402922173;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14073 @ 0.00082099 = 11.5538 BTC [+] 720411;1402922339;pankkake;artifexd: good idea, I added mine 720412;1402923017;artifexd;pankkake: I claim no credit. It was mp's idea. 720413;1402923880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07155 = 1.2164 BTC [+] 720414;1402924124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07155 = 3.2198 BTC [+] 720415;1402924256;xmj;gentlemen. 720416;1402924267;xmj;anyone here know how long it'd take to incorporate in Hong Kong? 720417;1402925222;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.2299984 = 4.6 BTC [-] {2} 720418;1402925538;ThickAsThieves;Random thing i just remembered: Avalon 720419;1402925559;ThickAsThieves;i wonder how his chi is doing 720420;1402925658;ThickAsThieves;Yifu, that was the name, couldnt remember 720421;1402925893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0008187 = 22.4324 BTC [-] {2} 720422;1402925908;Mats_cd03;real gud 720423;1402926025;fluffypony;nothing exciting: http://avalon-asics.com/category/news/ 720424;1402926026;assbot;Avalon ASIC » News 720425;1402926217;fluffypony;this is actually kinda interesting 720426;1402926217;fluffypony;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/16/anders_hejlsberg_interview/ 720427;1402926217;assbot;Microsoft C# chief Hejlsberg: Our open-source Apache pick will clear the FUD The Register 720428;1402926230;fluffypony;so MS have open-sourced C# 720429;1402926236;fluffypony;just not the CLR (Common-Language Runtime) 720430;1402926247;fluffypony;but since Mono already has a cross-platform implementation of the CLR 720431;1402926270;fluffypony;it means that C# will play nice cross-platform, and coding for Mono will be trivial 720432;1402926325;pankkake;microsoft complaining about FUD. fun 720433;1402926368;fluffypony;still, this could make C# an interesting language 720434;1402926747;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 171 @ 0.02081323 = 3.5591 BTC [+] {4} 720435;1402926869;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02086652 = 0.7303 BTC [+] {2} 720436;1402926983;mircea_popescu;davout the supreme court does not offer advisory oppinions. it'll only consider cases where there's a real controversy. 720437;1402927119;davout;mircea_popescu: so you're saying there's no way to ask for clarification regarding a bet wording? 720438;1402927156;fluffypony;take him out for supper first before asking for his opinion 720439;1402927159;mircea_popescu;there's no way to pull clarification. mods might push it, but you can't rely on that 720440;1402927171;mircea_popescu;the only approach is to make bets clear an' stick to it. 720441;1402927215;davout;aren't mods supposed to enforce bet clarity? 720442;1402927225;mircea_popescu;nope. 720443;1402927228;davout;lame 720444;1402927240;mircea_popescu;unavoidable. 720445;1402927255;pankkake;well then, why would anyone bet on the bet now? 720446;1402927258;mircea_popescu;but if i manage to hire some transcendents i might change it. 720447;1402927269;mircea_popescu;pankkake because they have a theory as to what it means. 720448;1402927297;davout;take this for example : "or if 30-day volume drops under 100 BTC. " 720449;1402927304;davout;volume taken from where ? 720450;1402927346;mircea_popescu;best effort :) 720451;1402927373;davout;refusing to clarify this, when asked well in advance doesn't really constitute best effort imo 720452;1402927402;mircea_popescu;"refusing to make me tortoise soup, when asked well in advance, doesn't constitute good mothership" 720453;1402927406;mircea_popescu;i ain't your mother. 720454;1402927412;Mats_cd03;but, ma...! 720455;1402927430;*;fluffypony takes out his list and crosses mircea_popescu off as potential mother figures 720456;1402927433;fluffypony;oh well 720457;1402927438;mircea_popescu;lol 720458;1402927448;mircea_popescu;but srsly, the bet is not up for resolution. there's no effort to be put in. 720459;1402927467;davout;mircea_popescu: i'm not asking anyone to make me something, i'm asking how the bet resolves, clear resolvability is a desired property is it not? 720460;1402927482;mircea_popescu;desired it may be. it being desired does not by itself make it possible. 720461;1402927506;pankkake;but bitbet mods clarified bets in the past 720462;1402927514;mircea_popescu;yes. 720463;1402927518;davout;is it impossible today to decide whether the volume source will by X, Y, or Z ? 720464;1402927548;davout;"First and foremost, statements that can not univocally be established as either true or false at a certain point in the future are BadBets and as such unacceptable on BitBet." 720465;1402927570;mircea_popescu;davout well if you were to propose that bet now it'd get rejected im pretty sure. 720466;1402927582;davout;without a source for the "volume" information, it is not possible to univocally establish (vol > 100) 720467;1402927597;davout;i wouldn't really propose such a bet 720468;1402927607;mircea_popescu;well so then there we go. 720469;1402927623;pankkake;I can create a source for volume info, from the raw trade data 720470;1402927694;davout;mircea_popescu: so if it'd get rejected now, why do you insist it is not clarifiable? 720471;1402927713;mircea_popescu;that awkward moment when you write to a estudio de abogados named X, Y, Z and K and the next morning a reply awaits from Gonzalez X. 720472;1402927723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00082079 = 32.0518 BTC [+] {2} 720473;1402927743;mircea_popescu;davout because it's not dude. what the fuck do i know what you'll be doing next. if you were going to change the thing';s name why da fuck did you bet on it as it is etc. 720474;1402927782;mircea_popescu;in any event, bitbet comes last in the sort. you don't change your actions by what bitbet says it's gonna do. you do what you do, then when the time comes bitbet looks at it and calls it something. 720475;1402927804;mircea_popescu;and whatever it calls it, that's what it is. 720476;1402927809;davout;well, because i'm like the bitbet mod, i didn't really realize it wasn't clear enough 720477;1402927855;mircea_popescu;that's unfortunate. but you're not like the bitbet mod, in that... well, in that you aren't. 720478;1402927858;punkman;davout, you could just keep bitcoin-central.net running until 2015 :P 720479;1402927919;davout;i'm just curious about the point behind not clarifying bets when their wording leave some space to ambiguity 720480;1402927931;davout;especially when it's brought up long in advance 720481;1402927939;mircea_popescu;because you gotta limit your touching the things. all business runs on the principle of limiting responsibility. 720482;1402927962;davout;what do you mean by "your touching the things" ? 720483;1402927962;mircea_popescu;bitbet reviews bets exactly twice : when they're entered, and when they're resolved. 720484;1402927981;mircea_popescu;can't follow around constantly reviewing and clarifying the wording every time reality twists some way or the other. 720485;1402927993;los_pantalones;and you really shouldn't change a bet after it's open 720486;1402928002;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones hasn't really happened to date. 720487;1402928011;mircea_popescu;(pls don't look in the logs) 720488;1402928016;los_pantalones;i'm agreeing w/ you 720489;1402928028;los_pantalones;to touch as little as possible 720490;1402928038;mircea_popescu;davout anyway, this is a solidly established principle of law, that a court won't review possibilities and implications, 720491;1402928044;mircea_popescu;or generally the future. courts review the past. 720492;1402928103;davout;i don't know about other countries, but the law in france has this mechanism where whenever you need clarification on the law from the taxes administration, you can ask them to make a binding answer 720493;1402928116;mircea_popescu;but that's administrative. 720494;1402928146;davout;it's economics 720495;1402928151;davout;can cost you money 720496;1402928155;mircea_popescu;you can definitely ask the king to tell you wtf it intends to do. because the king is a sovereign, and thus an agent, and thus can have intent. 720497;1402928163;mircea_popescu;courts aren't either agents nor capable of intent. 720498;1402928293;pankkake;so the king is the bet author? 720499;1402928383;davout;apparently there's no king, bitbet is a court, in some sort of quantic superposition state 720500;1402928407;fluffypony;Schrodinger's Bitbet 720501;1402928408;mircea_popescu;pankkake well strictly speaking davout's the king here lol. 720502;1402928413;davout;i'm simply asking whether there's milk or poison in the vial 720503;1402928438;mircea_popescu;you made the vial dood, what do you want from me. when the time to open it comes i'll feed it to a cat and let you know. 720504;1402928480;mircea_popescu;fluffypony hey, when were you talking about the summarizing thing ? was it the 12th ? 720505;1402928497;fluffypony;oof 720506;1402928513;fluffypony;let me grep quickly 720507;1402928521;mircea_popescu;or what was the guy's name ? 720508;1402928523;davout;the more i think about it, the more similarities i see between bitbet and the rota 720509;1402928551;fluffypony;7th 720510;1402928555;fluffypony;darlidada 720511;1402928577;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27273 @ 0.00081905 = 22.338 BTC [-] 720512;1402928595;fluffypony;he hasn't started on it yet - he's busy till the end of the month, so we're still fleshing everything out 720513;1402928642;mircea_popescu;ty 720514;1402928689;mircea_popescu;i just used it inter alia to get out of investor's questioning. http://trilema.com/2014/smg-may-2014-statement/#comment-101275 720515;1402928690;assbot;S.MG, May 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 720516;1402928717;fluffypony;lol 720517;1402928734;mircea_popescu;also, i am shocked, shocked and appalled i say, that nobody;s said a word of la gayola 720518;1402928756;mircea_popescu;it's almost like i'm the only one that finds it hysterically funny or something 720519;1402928787;davout;i wanted to make fun of you about your camembert, but i figured you were already punished enough 720520;1402928829;mircea_popescu;lol 720521;1402928833;mircea_popescu;that thing... 720522;1402928845;davout;what the fuck were you thinking 720523;1402928855;mircea_popescu;i'm stupid like this ;/ 720524;1402928863;mircea_popescu;constantly trying out new things and getting curious and whatnot 720525;1402928871;davout;lol 720526;1402928902;mircea_popescu;you tell me that you were here, and saw a local knockoff of a tin of camembert and you wouldn't have paid the $2.80 to see wtf is in there. 720527;1402928939;mircea_popescu;the wood box they fucking made. the camembert inside... who the fuck needs it. 720528;1402928945;davout;i guess not doubting anymore is well worth $3 720529;1402928967;mircea_popescu;besides, what if it were really good 720530;1402928972;mircea_popescu;you'd never have heard the end of it 720531;1402929004;davout;i'd have argued the argentinian version doesn't have a soul 720532;1402929034;mircea_popescu;i'd have killed young argentinian girls and sprayed their virginal blood all over it to win the argument 720533;1402929088;davout;a nice instagram filter would have been largely sufficient 720534;1402929098;mircea_popescu;kinda what i was thinking. 720535;1402929102;mircea_popescu;anyway, it's weird how this works. i'm from transylvania, where cattle is queen. dairy cattle. 720536;1402929112;mircea_popescu;in argentina, cattle is king. meat cattle. 720537;1402929123;mircea_popescu;never the twain should fucking meet, these people haveno idea of dairy at all 720538;1402929131;mircea_popescu;much like i pity the fool trying to eat romanian beef. 720539;1402929133;davout;i'm extremely curious about ar steak 720540;1402929142;mircea_popescu;you can't imagine it. 720541;1402929157;davout;my curiosity is extreme 720542;1402929168;mircea_popescu;much like you know, you think you know what a banana tastes like, but you're WRONG. you'll discover the full body of flavour of that fruit once you live in the tropics 720543;1402929190;mircea_popescu;it literally is like europeans only eat 7yos, and there's a world of 23 yo bananas out there unbeknownst to them 720544;1402929205;mircea_popescu;with like banana tits and all. 720545;1402929231;mircea_popescu;the beef steak here is so tender chicken seems game by comparison. 720546;1402929248;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 36 @ 0.02081658 = 0.7494 BTC [+] {3} 720547;1402929278;davout;i can get really really tender beef here, i wonder how it compares 720548;1402929293;davout;i also wonder how it compares to aged beef 720549;1402929300;mircea_popescu;well it's possible you had it imported, in which case the shock won't quite rise to the level of epiphany 720550;1402929304;mircea_popescu;but they also cook it quite well. 720551;1402929307;davout;(and i also wonder how aged beef tastes like, never had it) 720552;1402929331;mircea_popescu;anyway, argentina is meat eater's paradise, that's for sure. 720553;1402929349;davout;also they seem smart enough to serve a bowl of salad as a side 720554;1402929387;mircea_popescu;only if you order it. 720555;1402929410;davout;ah 720556;1402929441;davout;when i saw it on your picture i was all like "such meat art de vivre" 720557;1402929443;mircea_popescu;in general you have to do a lot of customisation to make restaurant food fit for human consumption. in their view, serving a two pound steak with three ounces of sweet potato fried in oil, and then a pound of chocolate with dulce de leche mixed in is perfectly adequate asd a meal 720558;1402929509;mircea_popescu;if you have problems swallowing it all they'll more than happily get you some (excellent btw) malbec 720559;1402929525;mircea_popescu;and yet, which is the mystery, they're not overweight these people. 720560;1402929537;mircea_popescu;they must not eat at home like in the restaurant or something. 720561;1402929558;davout;that's not very surprising, is it? 720562;1402929567;mircea_popescu;to me it is, yes 720563;1402929603;davout;that they don't eat at home the same way as in restaurants? 720564;1402929607;mircea_popescu;romanian restaurant dishes consist basically of what women make at home. much like in say normandy 720565;1402929614;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00082144 = 4.7471 BTC [+] 720566;1402929675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 68 @ 0.02060008 = 1.4008 BTC [-] {2} 720567;1402929762;davout;in normandy? 720568;1402929827;mircea_popescu;iiiiiiin normandee! 720569;1402929852;davout;that got lost on me 720570;1402929919;davout;i have this sadistic little satisfaction, knowing that log readers will have to endure this discussion about cheese and steak to be able to cross the log-reading from their todo 720571;1402929943;mircea_popescu;what, this is sadism ? my dear boy! you ain't seen nothing yet 720572;1402929974;davout;i don't think i have :-) 720573;1402929989;pankkake;the bitbet discussion was more painful 720574;1402930017;punkman;davout: (and i also wonder how aged beef tastes like, never had it) <- you can let a steak sit in your fridge a few days (or more if you are careful), it's usually an improvement 720575;1402930073;mircea_popescu;http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Auteur:Colette << fucking pointless wikipedia 720576;1402930073;assbot;Colette - Wikisource 720577;1402930084;mircea_popescu;so i was going to make a girl read claudine a l'ecole 720578;1402930086;mircea_popescu;da fuck do i do now 720579;1402930109;mircea_popescu;punkman actually, i like to age it in dough. 720580;1402930136;punkman;haven't tried that, sounds good 720581;1402930148;mircea_popescu;you know how to make beef wellington ? 720582;1402930203;punkman;nope 720583;1402930206;davout;pankkake: if it isn't painful it means it's probably not very useful either 720584;1402930237;davout;punkman: no, by aged, i mean really aged, like you have to cut the green parts off 720585;1402930254;mircea_popescu;it's not too hard : boil liver, grind it into a paste with butter and spices ; sear a steak, cover it in sauteed mushrooms and the liver paste ; make a dough, put the whole thing in it, seal and oven. 720586;1402930289;mircea_popescu;aging beef in dough is exactly thesame, sans liver (and mushrooms) and with much thicker dough : sear the steak, put it in a dough envelope, cook this and let it sit. 720587;1402930299;mircea_popescu;it will never go bad, if you sear it correctly. 720588;1402930314;davout;it'll turn to ham right? 720589;1402930317;mircea_popescu;not until your dough pierces through anyway 720590;1402930334;davout;punkman: http://media.abccom.cyberscope.fr/cache/6/500_500/lmh201_page22_image5.jpg 720591;1402930338;mircea_popescu;davout you can make a ham-y thing this way, if you add curing stuff inside, but just by itself it turns to... 720592;1402930346;mircea_popescu;well i dunno, beef aged in dough 720593;1402930350;davout;lol 720594;1402930375;mircea_popescu;and here we are exchanging recipes 720595;1402930386;mircea_popescu;i suppose next topic is whether our husbands beat us recently, and how hard was it. 720596;1402930421;davout;let's light some jasmine candles and talk about our feelings 720597;1402930438;mircea_popescu;no, we're intelligent housewives, not dumb american housewives. 720598;1402930457;davout;you mean we can use plain candles instead? 720599;1402930479;mircea_popescu;we could be naked and summon satan ? 720600;1402930544;davout;if that's the romanian version of a tupperware meeting, sure 720601;1402930554;mircea_popescu;lol 720602;1402930651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00081905 = 9.0915 BTC [-] 720603;1402930664;pankkake;still better than the discussions I hear behind me 720604;1402930678;pankkake;unless you care about makeup and stuff 720605;1402930691;davout;we were just getting started 720606;1402930705;mircea_popescu;yeah i like to add a little blush to my ballsack 720607;1402930711;mircea_popescu;makes the hairs stand out more 720608;1402930722;los_pantalones;http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/03/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-dry-aging-beef-at-home.html 720609;1402930723;assbot;The Food Lab's Complete Guide to Dry-Aging Beef at Home | Serious Eats 720610;1402930778;mircea_popescu;i read that as "serious teats" 720611;1402930782;mircea_popescu;notmyfault. 720612;1402930813;los_pantalones;makes sense given the context 720613;1402930955;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones a yes, the guy has a point as to "proper" aging. you can't do sngle steaks 720614;1402930962;mircea_popescu;which is what makes my dough protector required. 720615;1402930969;mircea_popescu;tho i never went to 60 days o.O 720616;1402930985;los_pantalones;there was cooking show "2 Fat Ladies" back in the day 720617;1402930989;los_pantalones;they used to do your dough technique 720618;1402930994;los_pantalones;but they would bury the steak too 720619;1402930995;mircea_popescu;orly ? 720620;1402931011;*;mircea_popescu honestly thought he had invented it ;/ 720621;1402931043;los_pantalones;well, before you go on thinking you didn't 720622;1402931045;los_pantalones;let me see if i can find 720623;1402931133;los_pantalones;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84bCD1fd4ew 720624;1402931133;assbot;Two Fat Ladies talk about Vegetarians - YouTube 720625;1402931137;los_pantalones;not the episode 720626;1402931141;los_pantalones;but for your entertainment 720627;1402931376;mircea_popescu;lol 720628;1402931390;los_pantalones;keep your dough age crown, i can't find 720629;1402931396;los_pantalones;MY BAD 720630;1402931399;mircea_popescu;davout btw, los_pantalones actually had a decent local steak here 720631;1402931406;los_pantalones;quite decent 720632;1402931413;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't say it's the best i had, but certainly not ashamed of sharing it 720633;1402931417;mircea_popescu;like, A grade. 720634;1402931423;los_pantalones;agreed 720635;1402931469;davout;lol 720636;1402931580;punkman;mircea_popescu: what's the best steak you've had? 720637;1402931593;mircea_popescu;also here, but after that. 720638;1402931598;mircea_popescu;i'm getting better at finding places :D 720639;1402931627;mircea_popescu;come to think of it, this is a passible definition of happiness : the best steak i've had was this year. 720640;1402931648;punkman;I think best I've had was in an argentinian restaurant (imported) 720641;1402931654;punkman;but I gotta try the real thing 720642;1402931676;mircea_popescu;$conference 720643;1402931677;empyex;mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 10 months and 1 days. Estimated cost today: 2.23945167 BTC 720644;1402931683;mircea_popescu;you showin' up ? 720645;1402931730;punkman;probably gonna have to wait for the next one, but I might make it happen 720646;1402931742;mircea_popescu;"I aged a 107, a 109A, and a 109 Export in a mini-fridge (this one from Avanti) set at 40F in which I placed a small desk fan in order to allow air to circulate (I had to cut a small notch in the sealing strip around the door to allow the fan's cord to pass through), simulating a dry-aging room on a small scale. " 720647;1402931746;mircea_popescu;ahahaha WHAT 720648;1402931759;los_pantalones;this guy kenji is the best 720649;1402931772;los_pantalones;MIT grad, quit his maths to cook 720650;1402931784;los_pantalones;debunks a lot of bad science about food 720651;1402931788;punkman;I wonder if jap beef is worthy of the hype 720652;1402931827;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones interesting. punkman notrly. what japaneseis worthy of the hype ? 720653;1402931850;los_pantalones;think he's askin about kobe 720654;1402931851;mircea_popescu;anyway, ima go meet my lawyers nao. later girlfriends! we can do our toenails when i return! 720655;1402932101;Mats_cd03;http://i.imgur.com/4nhUs.png 720656;1402932420;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00082144 = 4.7816 BTC [+] 720657;1402932518;asciilifeform;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/13/cia_rendition_jet_was_waiting_in_europe_to_snatch_snowden 720658;1402932518;assbot;CIA rendition jet was waiting in Europe to SNATCH SNOWDEN The Register 720659;1402932528;asciilifeform;^ tabloid piece on flying gasenwagen 720660;1402932725;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0710001 = 0.568 BTC [-] 720661;1402932908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00082367 = 19.068 BTC [+] 720662;1402932934;asciilifeform;in other (not quite) news, 720663;1402932935;asciilifeform;http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/f868fc6f39a2c45a6c2bab70addc92525d467904 720664;1402932935;assbot;Project: OpenBSD / Id: openbsd-f868fc6f39a2c45a6c2bab70addc92525d467904 - FreshBSD - The latest *BSD Commits 720665;1402933274;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.071548 = 1.1448 BTC [+] {3} 720666;1402933336;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00082407 = 22.0027 BTC [+] 720667;1402934181;mike_c;JD invested bankroll biggest since 6 months ago.. 720668;1402934433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94502472 BTC to 9`094 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 720669;1402934555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 2.35013287 BTC to 152`507 shares, 1541 satoshi per share 720670;1402934632;mike_c;!t h rent 720671;1402934632;assbot;[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00409990 / 0.00416468 / 0.00429300 (101 shares, 0.42063260 BTC), 7D: 0.00370000 / 0.00404595 / 0.00449890 (426 shares, 1.72357521 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.00459634 / 0.00648989 (4787 shares, 22.00269540 BTC) 720672;1402934845;bitcoinpete;;;later tell mircea_popescu d series starts nao http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2014/06/16/bitgo-raises-12mil-draws-attention-of-institutional-investors/ 720673;1402934846;assbot;BitGo Raises $12Mil, Draws Attention of Institutional Investors - Forbes 720674;1402934846;gribble;The operation succeeded. 720675;1402934861;bitcoinpete;dat multisig 720676;1402935201;fluffypony;dem institutionals 720677;1402935202;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 720678;1402935205;gribble;Current Blocks: 306160 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 271 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 8 hours, 50 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13236343139.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.58695 720679;1402935230;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: playaz, all a dem 720680;1402935235;fluffypony;yeah 720681;1402935247;fluffypony;so institutional they need to be IN an institution 720682;1402935258;bitcoinpete;bitcoin might even hit 14b this next adjustment 720683;1402935258;bitcoinpete;https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty 720684;1402935258;assbot;Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom 720685;1402935274;bitcoinpete;108ph/s and climbing like nuts 720686;1402935294;mike_c;wanna bet? :) 720687;1402935303;mike_c;14b can't happen that fast 720688;1402935328;bitcoinpete;mike_c: lol not quite 720689;1402935332;bitcoinpete;but not far off either 720690;1402935336;benkay;https://eris.projectdouglas.org/ 720691;1402935336;assbot;Eris, by Project ouglas 720692;1402935375;bitcoinpete;the bet won't need a 3rd adjustment before bastille day 720693;1402935396;bitcoinpete;that much looks bankable 720694;1402935467;fluffypony;!up darlidada 720695;1402935484;fluffypony;darlidada: plz repeat story here 720696;1402935487;fluffypony;bitcoinpete will love it 720697;1402935552;benkay;"The hard deadline of 17 June 2014 means the Project Ðouglas Dev Team has not had time to test all of the functions we would like for Eris v 0.1. " << still not seeing code 720698;1402935588;benkay;wow it has a built in bureacracy 720699;1402935695;benkay;okay now i see something resembling 'code' 720700;1402935726;darlidada;have you guys read about the latest crazy stupid story on bitcointalk ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653693.0 720701;1402935727;assbot;Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post 720702;1402935746;darlidada;to be fair it doesnt come frome bitcointalk this time, but from the nxt community 720703;1402935767;darlidada;some guy from nxtforum makes a post without a gpg signature 720704;1402935781;darlidada;ask 400 btcs for some business he cant talk about because nda and stuff 720705;1402935793;darlidada;90 mins later, he has already received 200 btc, no question asked 720706;1402935808;kakobrekla;the more shady the faster the money flows 720707;1402935815;benkay;huh look ethereum has code in the wild 720708;1402935816;benkay;https://github.com/project-douglas/epm 720709;1402935816;assbot;project-douglas/epm GitHub 720710;1402935821;darlidada;THEN people start to send him pm regarding the deal and when no one answear they freak out 720711;1402935837;darlidada;surprisingly it was a scam 720712;1402935945;bitcoinpete;darlidada: absolutely priceless 720713;1402935954;bitcoinpete;best roi for a forum post… evar 720714;1402935960;pankkake;while you should assume anyone on bitcointalk is a scammer, you should assume anything altcoin is a scam - after all, it would only be a scam in a scam 720715;1402935970;benkay;I feel I can do this deal because I know this is going to boost the value of NXT exponentially. 720716;1402935973;pankkake;"Scammers don't bother sending me a PM trying to get me to send NXT first, with my reputation this deal is BTC first." 720717;1402935989;pankkake;feels like I'm reading Goat 720718;1402936062;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: I wish we'd come up with this idea, we could've IPO'd the idea 720719;1402936074;bitcoinpete;i don't think it's too late 720720;1402936101;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/478569949347069953 720721;1402936103;assbot;BitGo Raises $12 million Series A http://t.co/7aTKHPZ29r by /PerianneDC via /Forbes Congrats /willobrien /mikebelshe /bendavenport /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash 720722;1402936111;bitcoinpete;let's see if the bitgo kids respond 720723;1402936125;bitcoinpete;unlike the bitangels… and coindeskers 720724;1402936126;bitcoinpete;etc 720725;1402936131;pankkake;IPO a scamming company: the business model of the company is to create IPO scams 720726;1402936146;bitcoinpete;but i gotta jet for a bit. bbl today 720727;1402936263;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.0680092 = 2.9924 BTC [-] {5} 720728;1402936325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00082367 = 8.4607 BTC [-] 720729;1402936385;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19278 @ 0.00082129 = 15.8328 BTC [-] {2} 720730;1402936419;pankkake;http://blog.flattr.net/2014/05/time-to-update-your-account/ <= flattr was one of the last easy ways to fund things semi anonymously (many grey area websites use it) 720731;1402936419;assbot;Time to update your account 720732;1402936436;pankkake;This Is Good for Bitcoin™ 720733;1402936507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00081902 = 31.0409 BTC [-] {2} 720734;1402936746;davout;haha, stupid protuguese 720735;1402936771;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1072Y0K.txt ) 720736;1402936771;benkay;!b 1 720737;1402936816;benkay;keep calm and prepare for rectothermal analysis 720738;1402936934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.06740489 = 3.6399 BTC [-] {7} 720739;1402936995;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 71 @ 0.06689013 = 4.7492 BTC [-] {4} 720740;1402937345;kakobrekla;!up darlidada 720741;1402937355;kakobrekla;get in the wot and all that jazz ? 720742;1402937361;penguirker;New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/16/the-security-fail-blockchain-wont-tell-you-about/ 720743;1402937387;fluffypony;;;gettrust darlidada 720744;1402937387;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user darlidada: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=darlidada | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=darlidada | Rated since: never 720745;1402937635;kakobrekla;;;rate darlidada 1 for the purpose of #b-a voice 720746;1402937636;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user darlidada has been recorded. 720747;1402937639;kakobrekla;thar, easy come easy go. 720748;1402938213;darlidada;ty:) 720749;1402938294;mircea_popescu; http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/f868fc6f39a2c45a6c2bab70addc92525d467904 << kinda why everyone sane is using homebrew crypto stack. 720750;1402938294;assbot;Project: OpenBSD / Id: openbsd-f868fc6f39a2c45a6c2bab70addc92525d467904 - FreshBSD - The latest *BSD Commits 720751;1402938318;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete fluffypony insitutiolol 720752;1402938323;asciilifeform;'358375th cockroach found in brooklyn motel. news at 11' 720753;1402938327;fluffypony;lol 720754;1402938405;mircea_popescu;"Eris -- A AO Framework by Project ouglas" ; "This proposal is made in response to a post on Reddit.com by Olivier Janssens announcing a bounty of an amount of bitcoin equivalent to USD$100,000" 720755;1402938409;mircea_popescu;this can only end in tears. 720756;1402938469;mircea_popescu; "blabla" << still not seeing code << they have a NAME right ? and it has like inclusive specxial characters in it and everything, right ? THEY HAVE TRIED AND NOBODY SHOULD CRITICISE THEM!!!! 720757;1402938495;mircea_popescu;let alone that the platform doing what the bitcoin foundation aspired to and never actually did is right here, and has been in business for years 720758;1402938506;mircea_popescu;but why should any retarded kid have to do his homework or anything 720759;1402938564;mircea_popescu; 90 mins later, he has already received 200 btc, no question asked << the theory that any qty of nxt is worth any qty of btc has serious flaws. 720760;1402938582;mircea_popescu;some derps thought whatever pile of mastercoin is worth btc, discovered that no, it's not quite recently. 720761;1402938604;asciilifeform;ask the chinese, maybe it helps them get it up, like tiger horns. 720762;1402938619;mircea_popescu; feels like I'm reading Goat << quite. 720763;1402938682;mircea_popescu; IPO a scamming company: the business model of the company is to create IPO scams << the warrior forum in action lol. 720764;1402938704;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.0667105 = 3.2021 BTC [-] {7} 720765;1402938778;mircea_popescu;!up alex_c 720766;1402938826;mircea_popescu;"John (Peter Manglaviti) was essentially the public leader of NxT, he was the one who represented NxT's booth at several public conferences / expos and seminars and he was the man the public dealt with. " << bwahaha. HE WAS IN A BOOTH!!1 720767;1402938852;mircea_popescu;i wonder if ticket sellers at cinemas have an easy moneymaker now : sell the building to forum investors. 720768;1402938863;mircea_popescu;"of course i own the whole block. i'm in a booth here aren't i ?! 720769;1402938884;davout;sounds legit 720770;1402939801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07136995 = 0.9278 BTC [+] {2} 720771;1402939963;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 720772;1402939964;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.0, Best ask: 593.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 593.34, 24 hour volume: 14577.00883217, 24 hour low: 555.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 591.21044887 720773;1402940259;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones http://trilema.com/2014/the-soft-underbelly-of-hedonism-exposed/ 720774;1402940260;assbot;The soft underbelly of hedonism, exposed. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 720775;1402940262;mircea_popescu;suffer, biotch :D 720776;1402940289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 21 @ 0.08 = 1.68 BTC [-] 720777;1402940411;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0714 = 0.5712 BTC [+] 720778;1402940522;mircea_popescu;"We (Dennis McKinnon, Casey Kuhlman, and Preston Byrne (the Project ouglas Dev Team)) do not intend, nor is our proposal designed, to replace or compete with the Bitcoin Foundation. Using traditional forms of organisational governance, the Bitcoin Foundation has played a critical role in standardising the Bitcoin protocol and encouraging adoption of cryptoprotocols use worldwide. We are grateful for its efforts an 720779;1402940522;mircea_popescu;d look forward to learning how we can work together." 720780;1402940524;mircea_popescu;ajhahaha o get fucked. 720781;1402940548;BingoBoingo;punkman: That is an interesting link. 720782;1402940550;mircea_popescu;"We have not slept for three weeks." 720783;1402940594;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06670011 = 0.5336 BTC [-] 720784;1402940707;fluffypony;Preston Byrne 720785;1402940712;fluffypony;wasn't he that blogger that had a tiff with you? 720786;1402940740;mircea_popescu;no, it was some derp that purported he's commenting on what i did and said and i pointed out to him that before attempting that he needs to pass a ged. 720787;1402940770;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: no, we're intelligent housewives, not dumb american housewives. << I had a disappointing lapse into Americanisms today. I timed my return drive poorly and passed the restaurants before they opened. Ended up getting fried chicken livers at the supermarket and eating them as I drove the rest of the way back. 720788;1402940773;mircea_popescu;but basically yeah, there's names which serve as marks of failure. something with goat involved, or nefario, or preston byrne or taaki etc can only fail 720789;1402940784;mircea_popescu;just how amusing it'll fail is up to circumstance, but yeah. 720790;1402940803;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i love chicken liver. 720791;1402940871;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Got two one pound packages still hot for $3.50, I love passing through the middle of nowhere. 720792;1402941384;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-soft-underbelly-of-hedonism-exposed/ 720793;1402941641;punkman;BingoBoingo: will publish source soon, any ideas for extended bet analysis or other tools? 720794;1402941658;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/16/microsoft_catapult_fpgas/ << More reason to suspect HFT types have been on this train for a while. 720795;1402941658;assbot;Microsoft Catapults geriatric Moore's Law from CERTAIN DEATH The Register 720796;1402941676;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: the same thought occurred to me 720797;1402941723;BingoBoingo;punkman: Not that I can think of atm. Numbers tend to influence how much I bet rather than whether I bet in the first place. 720798;1402941752;BingoBoingo;punkman: As I play with it I'll prolly think of things 720799;1402941753;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00081914 = 14.9903 BTC [+] {2} 720800;1402941814;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.21023485 = 2.7331 BTC [-] {5} 720801;1402941848;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: see this ancient thread - http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/not-all-programmers-alike/#comment-3756 720802;1402941850;assbot;Not all programmers are alike: a language rant | Locklin on science 720803;1402941916;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I remember that last time you dropped that link and the doubters in the thread, but now... If even Microsoft can pull off FPGA acceleration... 720804;1402941950;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: don't make the classic mistake of reading this as microshit product r&d 720805;1402941962;asciilifeform;'microsoft research' has nothing to do with the company's product pipeline 720806;1402941990;asciilifeform;it's a 'corral' for elderly phds. a kind of 'respectability farm' that many u.s. zaibatsus operate 720807;1402942006;asciilifeform;gets them free press, and keeps the inmates out of trouble 720808;1402942020;mircea_popescu;"Go with a straight-dataflow paradigm, where all operations are part of a dependency graph (and if your chip is large enough, exist at all times as physical objects which wait for their inputs to become available, and signal their successors within picoseconds of their output becoming ready.)" << tbh, this is not only grand in theory 720809;1402942028;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I played with Singularity a bit when it was fresh. The "respectability farm" is the impression I got. 720810;1402942029;mircea_popescu;but afaik no "asic miner" actually does it 720811;1402942058;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is known as asynchronous logic. see 'muller's gate.' i vaguely recall that we spoke of it on at least one occasion. 720812;1402942084;asciilifeform;i cannot claim to have invented it (herr muller, 1956?) but might be the only one left taking it seriously. 720813;1402942094;mircea_popescu;yes, at which point i prolly observed that it's a technologee current bitcoin miners don't got. 720814;1402942100;BingoBoingo;;;google Loper no formats no format wars 720815;1402942101;gribble;Loper OS » No Formats, no Format Wars.: ; Loper OS » Idea: ; No Formats, no Format Wars. - Loper OS: 720816;1402942116;asciilifeform;an asynch. circuit has interesting properties. for instance, it clocks itself up when you cool it. 720817;1402942120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00081869 = 22.3502 BTC [-] {2} 720818;1402942131;asciilifeform;(always speed-capped by slowest gate, and never arbitrarily) 720819;1402942137;mircea_popescu;"Speaking as an insider, I can tell you that most HFT firms playing around with FPGAs are doing so because of slick-talking FPGA marketing hucksters. The more that perverse incentives change, the more they stay the same" << flanagan has a point. 720820;1402942150;mircea_popescu;finance types are possibly the most tech-clueless people you'll ever meet. 720821;1402942176;mircea_popescu;if you run into a wall street dude hitting on a cocktail waitress, it's probable she groks more of grep than him. 720822;1402942204;asciilifeform;now, if these folks actually risked their arse if the machine fails to perform... 720823;1402942221;punkman;asciilifeform: could you recommend a lisp for this lisp-deficient noob? (and maybe an IDE that's not emacs) 720824;1402942236;asciilifeform;punkman: what machine do you have ? 720825;1402942268;asciilifeform;punkman: and i'm afraid that i cannot in good conscience recommend ide that isn't emacs. because only emacs runs 'SLIME.' 720826;1402942287;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform recall the one time their excel copula calculation failed spectacularly and the whole firm went under because of it ? no arse was harmed. 720827;1402942296;asciilifeform;lol yeah 720828;1402942303;mircea_popescu;"tech failure" is accepted like "will of god" was 500 years ago. free of any contract. 720829;1402942319;asciilifeform;the only prescription is: barbarians. 720830;1402942335;mircea_popescu;punkman why do you hate emacs ? 720831;1402942339;punkman;asciilifeform: just a regular machine, what kind of machine should I have? 720832;1402942351;asciilifeform;punkman: if x86 or x86-64 - sbcl. 720833;1402942388;mircea_popescu;"You will probably find that approach unworkable in a Disruptor style queue for market data because: 720834;1402942388;mircea_popescu;1) You cant tell when a reader has already progressed past that tick, and would thus miss your update (which is bad) 720835;1402942388;mircea_popescu;2) You cant tell when a reader is currently processing that tick, which means you could potentially write over the prior record when he has only read part of it, making the tick inconsistent (which is also bad). 720836;1402942388;mircea_popescu;Those issues may be avoidable, but only at the cost of additional atomic instructions on both the read and write ends, which would significantly impair the performance." << this guy is a prime example of what i said of finance types being tech clueless. 720837;1402942393;punkman;mircea_popescu: I don't hate it per se, but I'd rather avoid that learning curve for now 720838;1402942393;mircea_popescu;jesus god he actually just said that ?! 720839;1402942433;asciilifeform;punkman: if you study, e.g. common lisp, without SLIME, you're inoculating yourself against ever enjoying the language. 720840;1402942468;asciilifeform;this is generally how 'enthusiastic' lisp-haters are born - they get to study it at uni, and match parens / indent / etc. by hand. 720841;1402942505;punkman;but I like clicking! 720842;1402942523;BingoBoingo;There's more painful exercises in attempting to learn a programming language. In 6th grade I tried to learn Perl with pencils and paper... 720843;1402942532;asciilifeform;punkman: i like clicking << http://www.letsgolearn.com/bubble.html 720844;1402942532;assbot;Let's Go Learn Mouse practice game 720845;1402942550;mircea_popescu;i can't see a reference to lockin's stuff without thinking of http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/ anyway 720846;1402942552;assbot;How to fail - the Scott Locklin method. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 720847;1402942556;asciilifeform;punkman: or, if you can dig up an ancient mac, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_Practice 720848;1402942556;assbot;Mouse Practice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 720849;1402942577;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: locklin is one of those folks who never penetrated the btc bozo field 720850;1402942582;asciilifeform;(e.g. taleb) 720851;1402942600;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Hypercard is great Mouse Practice as well... 720852;1402942602;mircea_popescu;that's not even the objection. if you read his contributions in his own comment thread above, 720853;1402942611;mircea_popescu;the same arrogant if clueless sufficiency permeates. 720854;1402942639;mircea_popescu;this is how people like me end up when they're 50, if they don't have the sense to bdsm etc 720855;1402942695;asciilifeform;folks who succeed in an intellectually-demanding field - whatever field - besieged by sham artists - tend to develop this condition. or at least, it is certainly a 'professional hazard.' 720856;1402942759;mircea_popescu;it is, but only because of the poisonous enviroment in which their socialist conationals soak them. 720857;1402942793;mircea_popescu;these are the hidden costs of " welfarism" : that in order for its pretense to be maintained, the actuality of a caustic environment for the natural needs of the superior has to be enacted. 720858;1402942813;asciilifeform;not so hidden. 720859;1402942829;mircea_popescu;if he had a few slaves around the house whose lives and physical integrity depended on his good humour, he wouldn't find himself ossified in this form of compensatory idiocy. 720860;1402942864;BingoBoingo;http://www.gizmag.com/listeria-bacteria-sensor-food-borne-illness/32536/ << No one develops the Campylobacter version because chicken would never look the same again... 720861;1402942864;assbot;New sensor to detect food-borne bacteria on site 720862;1402942916;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i wonder what the ecological impact of listeria's disappearance would be like. 720863;1402942981;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Pretty horrible I imagine, but probably even less possible than than impassible task of eradicating Herpes. 720864;1402943010;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo for all you know, a world without listeria is the prerequisite for a better strain of herpes 720865;1402943025;mircea_popescu;or maybe for contagious, accelerated leprosy 720866;1402943055;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Or for Candida to accelerate the way Y. Pestis did... 720867;1402943098;mircea_popescu;still an open question as to how much iathrogenic pathogen virulence is due to you know... better hospital techniques. 720868;1402943146;asciilifeform;naturam expellas furca... 720869;1402943181;mircea_popescu;myeah 720870;1402943185;BingoBoingo;Well, the plasmids necessary for S. Aureus to become Beta Lactam resistant and Enterococcus to become Vancomycin resistant predate our harnessing either therapeutically... 720871;1402943268;asciilifeform;see also: 'the answer lies in the sewers.' 720872;1402943281;BingoBoingo;Note that broad spectrum antimicrobials that maintain effectiveness over time tend to be merely bacteriostatic and not actively bacteriocidal... 720873;1402943368;BingoBoingo;Aspergillius is probably my favorite pathogen because it is a huge fuck you to stoners thinking they are all high and mighty because their weed is "safer" than my booze. 720874;1402943464;mircea_popescu;lol 720875;1402943492;BingoBoingo;I'm trying to think what would even be a close second... 720876;1402943494;mircea_popescu;while the plasmids may actually predate it, their use likely does not. 720877;1402943525;mircea_popescu;think in the following terms : the tools mpex will use any to defeat any attempt at enacting a sovereignity claim superior to its own certainly predate any such claims 720878;1402943547;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, their deployment in practice does not (a state of affairs asciilifeform periodically protests with a parachute example) 720879;1402943576;asciilifeform;http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/2711/1/The%20answer%20lies%20in%20the%20sewers%28lsero%29.pdf 720880;1402943581;asciilifeform;for pdf haters: 720881;1402943582;asciilifeform;http://pastebin.com/Ni7t20wY 720882;1402943583;assbot;The answer lies in the sewers - Pastebin.com 720883;1402943585;ThickAsThieves;"HSBC is one of the leading international banks. Technology plays a big part of the banking world nowadays. The advent of mobile devices, bitcoin, crypto currency, access to internet, are change everyday banking. Create a position paper on the benefits of Bitcoin being adopted and being a part of HSBC consumer products. Pick a position in favour or against and please add your sources." 720884;1402943626;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, the reason we've found any substanital antibiotic this far is because some other microbe produced it as a defense and before we produce the chemical on an industrial scale, there are minority bacterial populations carrying genes for resistance. 720885;1402943627;ThickAsThieves;HSBC outsources bitcoin research to job applicants 720886;1402943635;ThickAsThieves;should be illegal 720887;1402943639;mircea_popescu;nice link 720888;1402943655;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves aahhahahaah 720889;1402943676;mircea_popescu;i recall a few years ago designers getting all butthurt against design contests 720890;1402943689;ThickAsThieves;yeah, NO-SPEC 720891;1402943695;mircea_popescu;i guess their victory was of such resounding nature in that battle that now hsbc is doing it 720892;1402943710;*;asciilifeform sees a future for phages, for small-molecule antibio - not so much 720893;1402943712;mircea_popescu;bodes well for the future, this. 720894;1402943779;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo this is approximately correct, especially if you focus on things such as penycilin. not quite as true with substances such as say trimetoprim 720895;1402943784;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Phages are probably the only long term solution. 720896;1402943796;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform phages are why i did an undergrad in immunology and infection 720897;1402943817;bitcoinpete;i remember reading about russian/soviet research into them 720898;1402943827;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00081982 = 29.3905 BTC [+] 720899;1402943836;bitcoinpete;research that sorta didn't really make it to the west after the fall 720900;1402943843;asciilifeform;bitcoinpete: at my last work (us army) the management flew in one of the last remaining soviet phage experts 720901;1402943858;asciilifeform;he's extracting strange from sewage even now. 720902;1402943896;bitcoinpete;whoa neat 720903;1402943909;*;asciilifeform was not involved, just sat in a lecture 720904;1402943911;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Trimethoprim is great in the way Sulfa antibiotics and doxycycline are great. They are merely bateriostatic agents. Combine the right bacteriostatic agents and you might actually kill some bacteria. Mostly though bacteria aren't adapted to combinations of them and it might take centuries for Bactrims list of vulnerable organisms to thing appreciably. 720905;1402943964;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo perhaps on the grounds of my ignorance, i see little value in the bacteriostatic / bactericide distinction 720906;1402944005;ThickAsThieves;TSLA is on a tear 720907;1402944032;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: holy ya 720908;1402944040;bitcoinpete;+7.29% today 720909;1402944053;asciilifeform;the notion that 'microbe will eventually adapt to anything' is a bit simplistic. 720910;1402944060;asciilifeform;go adapt to iodine. 720911;1402944071;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The distinction is -cidal actually kills the bacteria. -static keeps them from reproducing long enough to have enough die of old age or allow your immune system to catch up. When it comes to adpatation and resistance it matters quite a bit. 720912;1402944086;ThickAsThieves;http://www.smh.com.au/national/canberra-reaps-360m-from-inactive-bank-accounts-20140609-39t8p.html 720913;1402944086;assbot;Canberra reaps $360m from inactive bank accounts 720914;1402944090;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 720915;1402944090;mircea_popescu;i know that. how do you say it matters ? 720916;1402944097;gribble;Current Blocks: 306186 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 245 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 4 hours, 57 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13304966954.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.17066 720917;1402944101;ThickAsThieves;''I saved for 45 years … It was my carer's pension and his disability pension,'' said the Sydney retiree. 720918;1402944105;mircea_popescu;the only way bacteria meaningfully exists from an evolutionary standpoint is that it passes itself on 720919;1402944114;mircea_popescu;dead bacteria === spaded bacteria 720920;1402944135;ThickAsThieves;how does an organism exist non-meaningfully? 720921;1402944143;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, in a human body's environment a bacterium doesn't have long before it needs to fuck itself and reproduce or die. 720922;1402944147;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no but we were discussing adaptation 720923;1402944178;BingoBoingo;Other bacteria though tend not to have the luxury of waiting that long when they engage in chemical warfare. 720924;1402944194;BingoBoingo;Thus adapting to old age and celibacy is hard. 720925;1402944201;BingoBoingo;Especially at body temperature. 720926;1402944204;ThickAsThieves;i dont think there's a right or wrong, all the variation in question is needed 720927;1402944206;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo yes, but when developing resistance is in question. 720928;1402944273;mircea_popescu;in principle bacteria would have as good a chance to develop immunity to tpi as it would to penicillin. they're both antibiotics (granted, one static, the other cidal, whatever) 720929;1402944299;mircea_popescu;so the pre-existing defense theory doesn't really hold as well as all that. 720930;1402944306;ThickAsThieves;yeesh nbc has a horrible web design http://www.nbcnews.com/ (bitcoin front and center) 720931;1402944306;assbot;NBC News - Breaking News & Top Stories - Latest World, US & Local News 720932;1402944351;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves assuming it loads. i'm two seconds in here. 720933;1402944360;BingoBoingo;Most routes to drug resistance encountered so far have been a round a long time, because some population of bacteria in a species need the genes to survive. Bacteria don't just spread genes through reproduction though... Microbiology is like Bioshock. Staph can pick up a plasid and get superpowers. 720934;1402944404;mircea_popescu;this is true 720935;1402944428;mircea_popescu;and yeah, some plasmids exist for circumventing some antibiotics, the sort that we've obtained "agriculturally" so to speak. 720936;1402944441;mircea_popescu;the sort that we've obtained synthetically, however, generally have no defense. 720937;1402944462;BingoBoingo;Right, for some reason farmers like giving shit beta lactams for no good reason. 720938;1402944474;mircea_popescu;(their only limiting factor is that human cells don't have a defense either, and rarely do you get a bonanza like tpi that's 5k as afine to bacteria folic process as to human for unknown reasons) 720939;1402944498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.06700008 = 1.675 BTC [-] {2} 720940;1402944528;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo meant the agricultural/synthetic thing a reference to an earlier discussion about how industry and agriculture compete for financing. you prolly recall it 720941;1402944531;BingoBoingo;That is true. Microbes generally don't try to kill other microbes through folate though. 720942;1402944543;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: The corn matter. 720943;1402944547;mircea_popescu;right 720944;1402944575;BingoBoingo;And the American farm and Amrican locker room being bigger hotbeds for MRSA than American Hospitals. 720945;1402944592;mircea_popescu;hm. 720946;1402944595;BingoBoingo;Which follows from if you can you must. 720947;1402944626;BingoBoingo;Apparently sub meaningful doses of antibiotics promote mammal growth. 720948;1402944632;mircea_popescu;come to think of it, it should be interesting to see just what new plasmids become available for bacteria's game of bioshock now that there's all those genetically engineered crops around 720949;1402944638;mircea_popescu;and there, we've united all the topics 720950;1402944646;BingoBoingo;Indeed. 720951;1402944658;BingoBoingo;I'm probably roundup resistant by now... 720952;1402944720;mircea_popescu;it's always the unintended side consequences that are the more interesting. 720953;1402944762;BingoBoingo;The question of the next few decades is how many corn plasmids are small enough to find their way into bacterium... 720954;1402944774;mircea_popescu;which reminds me of the recent cheese wars lol. i dunno who missed the "oh yurp, you don't want our gmo crops ?! we won't want your messy cheeses then!!11" 720955;1402944777;mircea_popescu;quite clear message there 720956;1402944814;BingoBoingo;Yeah. Prolly best they don't mix. 720957;1402944816;mircea_popescu;exact fucking time to mess with this, when russia is pushing as hard as it can and iraq all but became an official al-quaeda state 720958;1402944839;mircea_popescu;fda thinks it's a good idea to annoy the european elite in the gullet, which is prolly the one thing they care about 720959;1402944877;mircea_popescu;i dunno who the fuck is in charge across the pond, but he couldn't be less able if he tried. a regular bismarck in reverse, that guy 720960;1402944925;BingoBoingo;I doubt all of Iraq is going Alqueda state. Seems like it will partion. Turks might even bless Kurdistan. 720961;1402944946;jborkl;http://www.bcoinnews.com/search/ 720962;1402944951;mircea_popescu;if it's a square mile it's enough for utter defeat. 720963;1402944975;jborkl;I added a very simple block explorer, I will add more later 720964;1402945013;bitcoinpete;http://saweis.net/posts/nominations-for-crypto-projects-that-might-not-suck.html 720965;1402945014;assbot;Nominations for Crypto Projects that Might Not Suck 720966;1402945034;BingoBoingo;The Iraq situation would have been less of a mess if HW Bush and the Saudis would have been cool with Bin Laden's plan for liberating Kuwait. 720967;1402945072;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete maybe send him a "Nomination for posts that might not suck : shut up, read assets logs for the next year" 720968;1402945094;bitcoinpete;lol 720969;1402945138;bitcoinpete;"Personal income tax revenues in April were 15.8 percent, or $7.9 billion, below the same month in 2013" 720970;1402945143;bitcoinpete;http://www.vagazette.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-state-taxes-20140612,0,895673.story 720971;1402945144;assbot;Size of income tax drop surprises U.S. states: study - vagazette.com 720972;1402945157;mircea_popescu;heh. 720973;1402945175;mircea_popescu;argentina salutes you :D 720974;1402945177;bitcoinpete;most unintentionally lulzy url too: vag-azaette 720975;1402945290;mircea_popescu;"Purchased credits to read http://trilema.com Prompt delivery. Great writer, good use of footnotes. Not retarded. Privilege unchecked." << customer reviews. 720976;1402945291;assbot;Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 720977;1402945329;fluffypony;lol 720978;1402945515;BingoBoingo;%diff 720979;1402945516;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 436012.92 in 815 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.05 720980;1402945522;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTcv5q4WfMM 720981;1402945522;assbot;Khali muscle protein advert - YouTube 720982;1402945527;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 720983;1402945529;gribble;Current Blocks: 306187 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 244 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 4 hours, 50 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13306514863.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.18382 720984;1402945555;BingoBoingo;I still don't think 14 Billion by Bastille day is happening. 720985;1402945616;BingoBoingo;http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/deputies-450-pound-volusia-man-his-drugs-stomach-f/ngLkW/ 720986;1402945664;kakobrekla;just wait that fury (un)plugs some hash. 720987;1402945769;BingoBoingo;I think in addition to miners housed in the desert southwest dying, we might get to see some pool on pool DDoS violence. 720988;1402945788;BingoBoingo;So many exciting externalities could happen. 720989;1402945821;jborkl;Tha is constantly ongoin, just block withholding attacks on each other 720990;1402945835;jborkl;is hurts more than DDOS 720991;1402945890;kakobrekla;i doubt heat will do much 720992;1402945902;kakobrekla;those who dont the the heat math dont have big farms in the first place 720993;1402945999;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: CoinTerra, the People Garr pinned his "totes legit" badge on have a datacenter in the middle of the utah desert. 720994;1402946023;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00081867 = 11.1339 BTC [-] {2} 720995;1402946034;jborkl;haha :( 720996;1402946037;kakobrekla;how much hash? 720997;1402946060;BingoBoingo;Not sure, but since they are way behind on refunds, probably all of theirs. 720998;1402946069;fluffypony;lol 720999;1402946123;kakobrekla;prolly even the bfl failwagon will offset that 721000;1402946124;thestringpuller;we might get to see some pool on pool DDoS violence. << cyberwarfare is an even for popcorn 721001;1402946157;kakobrekla;the subpar miners they have now , they gets to keeps and run themselfs. 721002;1402946203;BingoBoingo;It would kick ass if a tornado hit BFL's trailer. 721003;1402946215;kakobrekla;economically its better for them to simulate the subparness than to ship 721004;1402946449;bitcoinpete;heya bitstein 721005;1402946470;bitstein;hey, how goes it? 721006;1402946535;bitcoinpete;bitstein: pretty splendidly 721007;1402946545;bitcoinpete;sitting in a lovely old bank building at the bar 721008;1402946552;bitcoinpete;watching soccer and surfing logs 721009;1402946567;bitcoinpete;and you? 721010;1402946594;bitstein;ah that sounds nice. i'm working on schoolwork. and finding that making fun of bitangels is getting too easy: https://twitter.com/Bitstein/status/478608956026155009 721011;1402946595;assbot;An automated consultant for /BitAngelsdotco: http://t.co/HsxZCXSxvS We need an open source token-based distributed version, though. 721012;1402946660;bitcoinpete;always fun 721013;1402946756;asciilifeform;heat math << unterseeminer. 721014;1402946770;asciilifeform;the final solution (tm) to heat problem 721015;1402946816;asciilifeform;crypto projects that may not suck << where's the list? 721016;1402946938;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00081982 = 0.6968 BTC [+] 721017;1402946996;kakobrekla;its rounded to empty. 721018;1402947098;kakobrekla;!up trixisowned 721019;1402947103;kakobrekla;you are owned 721020;1402947107;kakobrekla;fyi. 721021;1402947304;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06700142 = 0.938 BTC [+] {4} 721022;1402947494;jurov; heat math << unterseeminer. << going into the trouble with pressure watertight sealing for hardware with lifespan measured in months? dunno 721023;1402947746;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/simple-bitcoin-block-explorer-added/ 721024;1402947975;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 75 @ 0.06667206 = 5.0004 BTC [-] {7} 721025;1402948373;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 721026;1402948380;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 598.0, vol: 13878.55265075 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 594.2, vol: 9707.91734 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 599.0, vol: 17280.37405547 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 604.85, vol: 51.13415512 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 603.96842, vol: 5008.65520000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 597.23502, vol: 28.07766432 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 602.583228, vol: 133.01614452 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 721027;1402948381;BingoBoingo;;;more 721028;1402948381;gribble;598.243502558 721029;1402948402;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.066666 = 1.2667 BTC [-] 721030;1402948458;BingoBoingo;http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/16/1253209/super-bananas-may-save-millions-of-lives-in-africa << Product for Uganda Safety and efficacy trials carried out on 'Muricans 721031;1402948461;assbot;"Super Bananas" May Save Millions of Lives In Africa - Slashdot 721032;1402948980;BingoBoingo;%book 721033;1402948981;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 721034;1402949256;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00082106 = 24.0571 BTC [+] 721035;1402949528;BingoBoingo;http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2012/10/quake-and-zap.html 721036;1402949528;assbot;Crazy RxMan: Quake and Zap 721037;1402949549;BingoBoingo;"A special DOS program (we only utilize the latest in computer programming technology at our pharmacy) is executed which prints a listing of barcodes representing 10%, 20%, 30%, etc. all the way to 100%. Then the tech or pharmacist scans a bottle of inventory, THEN shakes, quakes, and does a little magic dance to estimate how much is left in the bottle, be it 10%, 20%, etc., and then scans that barcode, hence the QUAKE-n-ZAP! Th 721038;1402949549;BingoBoingo;is is done multiple times until the tech either dies of boredom or it gets busy again. Usually this means about 50 zaps. THEN the computer compares what was scanned to the inventory on hand, and if it is off by a certain percentage, it updates the inventory on hand..." 721039;1402949569;BingoBoingo;"But here's where it gets insane. No one can accurately "estimate" how much is left in the bottle to any degree of accuracy, so we end up mostly only zapping full bottles." 721040;1402949927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00082106 = 2.4632 BTC [+] 721041;1402950038;BingoBoingo;http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2013/07/crazy-password-protection.html 721042;1402950039;assbot;Crazy RxMan: Crazy Password Protection 721043;1402950331;benkay;https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/478624448208441344 << retarded? 721044;1402950332;assbot;Those who don't ignore history are just as doomed to repeat it as those who ignore history. Because both will have the same history. 721045;1402950475;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/kneecaps/ 721046;1402950476;assbot;Mob Boss Agrees to Shoot Man in Kneecaps Before Weekend | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 721047;1402950557;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/30-billion-processor-digital-river-bitcoin-payment-option/ 721048;1402950558;assbot;$30 Billion Online Merchant Processor Digital River Adds Bitcoin Payments 721049;1402950567;ThickAsThieves;(via Coinbase) 721050;1402951244;FabianB;!mpif 721051;1402951246;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021667 BTC (Total: 433.36 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 721052;1402951274;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 721053;1402951275;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021667 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 10000 @ 0.00021561 721054;1402951276;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 721055;1402951369;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 721056;1402951369;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.09983010 BTC; +0.47628387 BTC (+0.2791%) since last check 6d 1h 53m 39s ago. 721057;1402951373;mike_c;benkay: 624448208441344 << retarded? << I was reading up and i thought that was one of assbot's wisecracks when it doesn't understand your command :) 721058;1402951382;BingoBoingo;Klye needs another IPO... 721059;1402951398;Apocalyptic;heh 721060;1402951411;fluffypony;lol 721061;1402951790;kakobrekla; benkay: 624448208441344 << retarded? << I was reading up and i thought that was one of assbot's wisecracks when it doesn't understand your command :) < those are way smarter than that 721062;1402951807;benkay;!derp 721063;1402951826;assbot; no u! 721064;1402951833;benkay;ha 721065;1402951845;benkay;okay i just bought a pile of insurance 721066;1402951866;benkay;now i need a pile of deals that this insurance will qualify me for to justify the expense 721067;1402951883;BingoBoingo;In a few centuries assbot error messages will be studied in the Classics department. 721068;1402951900;benkay;!up trinque 721069;1402951904;benkay;hey guys trinque is a friend of mine 721070;1402951911;benkay;be particularly nasty, eh? 721071;1402951928;BingoBoingo;fuck you benkay voice him yourself 721072;1402951950;trinque;I can take it 721073;1402951961;trinque;and I've already got a fancy plus sign 721074;1402951977;benkay;ya but you can't voice y'self yet 721075;1402951980;mike_c;!sorry assbot, you're very clever. and good looking. 721076;1402951996;assbot; ikr 721077;1402952000;mike_c;srsly 721078;1402952070;BingoBoingo;trinque: ASL? 721079;1402952111;trinque;I have transcended age, gender and location. 721080;1402952120;trinque;I am everywhere and all things. 721081;1402952123;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35750 @ 0.00081861 = 29.2653 BTC [-] {3} 721082;1402952143;mike_c;;;ident trinque 721083;1402952143;gribble;Nick 'trinque', with hostmask 'trinque!~trinque@trinque.org', is not identified. 721084;1402952146;BingoBoingo;trinque: SO you're a 'Murican afraid of the gasenwagen as well 721085;1402952269;trinque;BingoBoingo: unfortunately so 721086;1402952315;BingoBoingo;trinque: Did you know that there is a device for accessing any secrets stored in a living human's memory. 721087;1402952343;trinque;BingoBoingo: alcohol? 721088;1402952346;asciilifeform;from the lolpharmz: 721089;1402952346;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/opinion/sunday/frank-bruni-oversharing-in-admissions-essays.html 721090;1402952349;assbot;Log In - The New York Times 721091;1402952505;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: When I start a university the prospective students are going to have to interview under the influence. 721092;1402952541;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'i would like to attend your... hmrh, croak, zzz...' 721093;1402952591;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: By the time it happens I imagine I'll still be boozing, but the kids will be on their medical PCP or whatever. 721094;1402952716;BingoBoingo;!up princessnell 721095;1402952739;princessnell;hiya 721096;1402952745;BingoBoingo;Hello 721097;1402952851;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: At least the students will be comforted that the summer reading before freshman year will never deviate. 721098;1402953221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44532 @ 0.00081837 = 36.4437 BTC [-] 721099;1402953280;BingoBoingo;The Pre-Freshman year reading will be Spinoza's ethics. There will be a matriculation exam. 721100;1402953305;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/478619903675883520 721101;1402953306;assbot;If US gets involved in /hashtag/Iraq?src=hash it would join a /hashtag/Shiite?src=hash alliance w/ Assad, /hashtag/Iran?src=hash & /hashtag/Maliki?src=hash against a /hashtag/Sunni?src=hash movement http://t.co/TQHSloTN8c 721102;1402953770;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00081837 = 8.3065 BTC [-] 721103;1402954022;assbot;trinque +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 721104;1402954037;kakobrekla;!up trinque 721105;1402954064;trinque;kakobrekla: thank you :) 721106;1402954105;BingoBoingo;Also at Bingo University, anyone who commits the crime of introducing a whiteboard to the campus will be caned in the Quad. 721107;1402954275;Mats_cd03;id let BingoBoingo cane me in public 721108;1402954319;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: I'd prefer you just have the good sense to realize the inherent superiority of Chalk on Slate. 721109;1402954342;Mats_cd03;chalk on slate isnt as kinky 721110;1402954479;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Well, Perhaps in the quad there will be a block of slate for the caned to bend over. Because slate is the correct writing surface in a classroom... 721111;1402954940;penguirker;New blog post: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-06-16 721112;1402954990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00082218 = 2.7954 BTC [+] 721113;1402955112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1719 @ 0.0005 = 0.8595 BTC [+] 721114;1402955217;nubbins`;ho 721115;1402955316;thestringpuller;%diff 721116;1402955318;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 434656.24 in 806 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.24 721117;1402955399;BingoBoingo;%ticker 721118;1402955404;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 721119;1402955428;BingoBoingo;And the Altcoin Market remains a standoff 721120;1402955469;nubbins`;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28aldt/ghashio_is_open_for_discussion/ci92qc0 721121;1402955470;assbot;luke-jr comments on GHASH.IO IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION 721122;1402955481;nubbins`;pretty rich 721123;1402955491;Mats_cd03;it needs an ATC Foundation 721124;1402955636;benkay;;;ident trinque 721125;1402955637;gribble;Nick 'trinque', with hostmask 'trinque!~trinque@trinque.org', is identified as user 'trinque', with GPG key id 42F9985AFAB953C4, key fingerprint FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4, and bitcoin address None 721126;1402955649;benkay;;;rate trinque 1 dat guy 721127;1402955654;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user trinque has been recorded. 721128;1402955661;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0708987 = 0.9926 BTC [+] 721129;1402955664;benkay;!down trinque 721130;1402955678;benkay;now trinque /msg assbot !up to give yourself voice 721131;1402955692;trinque;fancy 721132;1402955694;trinque;benkay: thank you sir 721133;1402955783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00082218 = 8.3451 BTC [+] 721134;1402955813;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Nah, ATC has better than a foundation, it has perfectly benevolent neglect. 721135;1402955954;BingoBoingo;Maybe we should start the rumor that Ghash.io is Government has, and refer to it as G-Hash and its operators as the G-men 721136;1402955961;benkay;yusss 721137;1402955971;benkay;it's the Government pool 721138;1402955979;nubbins`;it's known that ghash.io is USG 721139;1402956002;nubbins`;if you look up the docs for codename GIGA it's all spelled out 721140;1402956027;BingoBoingo;Let's get out the tinfoil bitches. 721141;1402956042;BingoBoingo;We're baking cake with this one. 721142;1402956050;nubbins`;i don't have any tinfoil bitches 721143;1402956063;nubbins`;wait 721144;1402956067;nubbins`;nevermind 721145;1402956072;BingoBoingo;Eh, there is another problem. All of other pools probably suck more. 721146;1402956101;BingoBoingo;http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/barrys-new-tell-enough-memoir-tries-to-recast-mayor-for-lifes-legacy-deny-troubles/2014/06/15/be15252c-f4a1-11e3-b22c-e48daaddce39_story.html 721147;1402956101;assbot;Barrys new tell-enough memoir tries to recast Mayor for Lifes legacy, deny troubles - The Washington Post 721148;1402956145;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/texas-police-now-ticketing-kids-for-cool-moves-1591564248 721149;1402956146;assbot;Texas Police Now Ticketing Kids for "Cool Moves" 721150;1402956210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082218 = 3.1243 BTC [+] 721151;1402956299;nubbins`;ha ha ha 721152;1402956305;nubbins`;HEY KIDS 721153;1402956349;nubbins`;this is just a ploy to train kids not to run when a cop shouts HEY, YOU! STOP! 721154;1402956373;BingoBoingo;Exactly. 721155;1402956380;nubbins`;what's next, wolves giving sheep "get out of shearing free" coupons for grazing further from the shepherd? 721156;1402956810;assbot;SirDefaced +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 721157;1402956849;BingoBoingo;!up SirDefaced 721158;1402956856;BingoBoingo;Hello SirDefaced 721159;1402956859;SirDefaced;hello :) 721160;1402956876;SirDefaced;long time since ive used gribble haha 721161;1402956917;benkay;;;gettrust SirDefaced 721162;1402956917;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user SirDefaced: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=SirDefaced | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SirDefaced | Rated since: never 721163;1402956922;ThickAsThieves;http://seekingalpha.com/news/1803003-report-shipments-of-amd-nvidia-graphics-cards-hit-by-high-inventories?uprof=51 721164;1402956923;assbot;Report: Shipments of AMD/Nvidia graphics cards hit by high inventories - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (NYSE:AMD) | Seeking Alpha 721165;1402956930;ThickAsThieves;"Weak Bitcoin-related demand is said to be taking a toll, and AMD and Nvidia (NVDA) have reportedly been pressured to cut GPU prices to boost demand. But both firms are instead opting to focus on cutting GPU shipments." 721166;1402956992;SirDefaced;im authed under defaced and it seems someone jacked my sn 721167;1402957002;SirDefaced;so ill be making a new WOT 721168;1402957087;ThickAsThieves;I wonder when AMD will just start making best-in-class ASICs 721169;1402957184;pankkake;fluffypony: I was going to link the SMBC here :p 721170;1402957202;fluffypony;pankkake: best one I've seen in a long time, and I love SMBC 721171;1402957348;benkay;;;gettrust defaced 721172;1402957349;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask SirDefaced!User@74.196.59.25. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user benkay to user defaced: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=defaced | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=defaced | Rated since: Tue Sep 20 18:24:20 2011 721173;1402957367;benkay;;;gettrust assbot defaced 721174;1402957367;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask SirDefaced!User@74.196.59.25. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user defaced: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=defaced | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=defaced | Rated since: Tue Sep 20 18:24:20 2011 721175;1402957665;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: There was an earlier discussion about existing BTC ASIC maker's mistake. 721176;1402957673;BingoBoingo;Moiety 721177;1402957742;moiety;hello! 721178;1402957758;moiety;you survived the storm BingoBoingo 721179;1402957760;BingoBoingo;moiety: I managed to survive the winds, but was nearly washed off the road this morning. 721180;1402957773;moiety;washed off the road? were you driving? :o 721181;1402957895;BingoBoingo;moiety: Yeah. Was driving this morning and the temperature jumped 20 degrees... Then the rain came... 721182;1402957944;BingoBoingo;Well drained roadway with deep ditches on both sides, but the rain was falling faster than the water could runoff. 721183;1402958016;moiety;eeep, i don't think you should drive anywhere for a while BingoBoingo 721184;1402958166;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/478646591730249728 721185;1402958167;assbot;Are /blockchain online bitcoin wallets potentially insecure? /aantonop say it ain't so! http://t.co/yoKFu376Jt /bitcoinpete 721186;1402958179;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/478646920970129408 721187;1402958180;assbot;Are /blockchain online bitcoin wallets potentially insecure? /aantonop say it ain't so! http://t.co/yoKFu376Jt /bitcoinpete 721188;1402958202;bitcoinpete;Derpopolous: "All bitcoin wallets are “potentially insecure”, blockchain’s less so than anyone else." "100% security doesn’t exist. There are weaknesses in any system. We manage these risks…" 721189;1402958237;bitcoinpete;"we sell the slowest acting poison on the market!" 721190;1402958273;BingoBoingo;moiety: The drive was 2 minutes of terror and three hours of boredom. 721191;1402958573;BingoBoingo;http://unicode-inc.blogspot.com/2014/06/announcing-unicode-standard-version-70.html 721192;1402958574;assbot;The Unicode Blog: Announcing The Unicode Standard, Version 7.0 721193;1402958645;moiety;three hours? did you get stuck BingoBoingo 721194;1402958661;BingoBoingo;moiety: No, was just covering distance. 721195;1402958678;moiety;you need a landrover for that rain 721196;1402958700;BingoBoingo;Or a car that isn't so bouyant. 721197;1402958718;moiety;what is it you have at present? 721198;1402958809;BingoBoingo;moiety: Just a boring Saturn Family sedan. Mostly plastic. Draws no unwanted attention and burns little gas. 721199;1402958880;moiety;one day, i would like one of these http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/nissan/1367206.jpg but i want to modify it to manual gearbox and bigger engine (they are only 1L autos) 721200;1402958910;moiety;saw a black one roll through my new town other day! 721201;1402958921;moiety;i've only ever seen two irl 721202;1402958966;Mats_cd03;is this 51% thing even a threat? color me unconvinced 721203;1402958981;BingoBoingo;Nice. I've always liked the idea of something simple like a Lotus 7, but... In practice I prefer a more disposable conveyance. 721204;1402958994;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Not really. Not this way at least. 721205;1402959033;pankkake;lol at the bullshit answers 721206;1402959041;pankkake;but after all, it's twitter 721207;1402959107;pankkake;and the all bitcoin wallets… is an outright lie. there is at least a clear line between web wallet where you don't have the key, web wallet where you have the key but malicious js can be served, and local software 721208;1402959224;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Don't forget local wallet on machine separated from the internet... 721209;1402959519;Mats_cd03;barry is a typical scrub 721210;1402959525;Mats_cd03;cant hold his lies together properly 721211;1402959893;BingoBoingo;http://28ri4j3anx8g2wfod51alicjuaw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/top-8-people-having-a-bad-day-.1.jpg 721212;1402959913;BingoBoingo;http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/05/14/meanwhile-in-drogheda-3/ 721213;1402959914;assbot;Meanwhile, In Drogheda | Broadsheet.ie 721214;1402959931;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00082215 = 4.3163 BTC [-] 721215;1402959931;BingoBoingo;https://imgur.com/WcCZx62 721216;1402959931;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 721217;1402960031;Mats_cd03;use your words 721218;1402960034;BingoBoingo;Fuck Facebook http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/06/elonis_v_united_states_supreme_court_will_hear_the_facebook_speech_case.html 721219;1402960034;assbot;Elonis v. United States: Supreme Court will hear the Facebook speech case. 721220;1402960215;BingoBoingo;The true threat doctorine is bullshit, and will not stand. 721221;1402960411;BingoBoingo;Where do the Bitpoor hang out nowadays? 721222;1402960462;BingoBoingo;I kind of want some Klye JustDice porn fic, but I don't want it enought to throw away more than a Bitcent on it. 721223;1402960528;BingoBoingo;I also can't be arsed to make a Fiverr account. 721224;1402960541;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00082215 = 11.6334 BTC [-] 721225;1402960613;Mats_cd03;describe porn fic and i may be willing to be your proxy 721226;1402960663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00082218 = 6.8241 BTC [+] 721227;1402960676;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: I kind of want to read a short story about Just-Dice destroying Klye's anus with a strapon. Just-Dice also needs tits. 721228;1402960749;Mats_cd03;why do you want to fantasize about some pasty white boy 721229;1402960792;Mats_cd03;shits weak 721230;1402960804;BingoBoingo;I got drunk too early today to write a blog post myself. Kind of hoping some starving Indian or Kansasian bastard would be thrilled to have a bitcent. 721231;1402960811;bitcoinpete;moiety: one day, i would like one of these http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/nissan/1367206.jpg <; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 721247;1402961125;Mats_cd03;i imagine it was prior to february 721248;1402961125;moiety;bitcoinpete: that's immense! thanks for the link, so nice to read an actual experience of it :D i also didn't know: "A 5-speed manual was available from the factory, but of the 20,000 Figaros produced, only a small fraction had the do-it-yourselfer installed." 721249;1402961147;bitcoinpete;moiety :D 721250;1402961164;bitcoinpete;it was one of the funner driving experiences i've had 721251;1402961222;BingoBoingo;Eh, I don't judge my road experiences on what I'm driving, but on the WTF shit I encounter. 721252;1402961250;moiety;i would like a figaro at some point even moar nao! 721253;1402961295;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: as the passenger, sure 721254;1402961324;bitcoinpete;but some cars have a way of worming their way into your heart 721255;1402961329;moiety;you encounter a lot of wtf shit whilst driving BingoBoingo, like the pizza-sized man-grappling turtles and floods from nowhere 721256;1402961341;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: I imagine part of that is a side effect of Canada. 721257;1402961352;bitcoinpete;pretty much 721258;1402961360;bitcoinpete;there's not a lot to drive to or by 721259;1402961366;bitcoinpete;it's just… flat 721260;1402961376;moiety;the old minis are fun little things 721261;1402961384;BingoBoingo;moiety: I have a suspicion the redneck's intention for the turtle was soup, but... Would not be surprised if the turtle won. 721262;1402961398;bitcoinpete;moiety: never driven one! what's the biggest size of human they'll fit? 721263;1402961469;BingoBoingo;I could see having a "fun" car, but probably as a third car. First car is blending in car. Second is moving shit car. Third car can be fun car. 721264;1402961475;moiety;well the thing is, you can fit a six foot person in np, because there is nothing inside. ther foot wells are bare. so seat right back and you can fold a large person in. their head sort of skiffs the roof though 721265;1402961582;moiety;my uncle refurbed one for my mum as her first car before minis had their revival and panels were still £15 each. great wee car. 721266;1402961614;Mats_cd03;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/congressman-asks-nsa-to-provide-metadata-for-lost-irs-e-mails/ 721267;1402961614;assbot;Congressman asks NSA to provide metadata for lost IRS e-mails | Ars Technica 721268;1402961615;Mats_cd03;excellent 721269;1402961634;bitcoinpete;moiety i feel like i'd need a sunroof to pop my fro out out of ;) 721270;1402961646;*;BingoBoingo is not yet sure if Miata or Trabant would be more of a fun car. 721271;1402961665;bitcoinpete;trabant is you're a wrencher, miata if you're a driver 721272;1402961667;moiety;miatas are for hairdressers BingoBoingo 721273;1402961675;bitcoinpete;and hipsters 721274;1402961685;bitcoinpete;and middle-aged middle managers 721275;1402961691;moiety;i honestly think they only look good hard topped 721276;1402961701;bitcoinpete;as far as i can tell hairdressers drive hyundai elantras 721277;1402961705;moiety;they are meant to handle brilliantly 721278;1402961718;BingoBoingo;I just like the idea of a car that is acceptable to move from one garage to another by one's hands and feet 721279;1402961725;Mats_cd03;miatas are r small, i can barely move inside one 721280;1402961735;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: so a bicycle 721281;1402961773;BingoBoingo;bitcoinpete: I cover too much distance for a bicycle. Also Bicycle may not have room for... compartments. 721282;1402961785;bitcoinpete;paniers 721283;1402961789;bitcoinpete;solve all your problems 721284;1402961801;bitcoinpete;i basically don't drive in the summer… all 4 months of it here 721285;1402961849;bitcoinpete;well, off to pottery class. bon soir 721286;1402962008;BingoBoingo;Does anyone here know how firearms laws work at the intersection of Panama and COlumbia? 721287;1402962067;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: I still don't think 14 Billion by Bastille day is happening. << dunno man. some crazy hash added past coupla days 721288;1402962080;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But can it stick. 721289;1402962091;mircea_popescu;well who's to know 721290;1402962151;BingoBoingo;I don't have resources to interfere with random blogs much less pools. Pool politics is getting rather Nasty. Reminds me of that place upstate named after it's stench. 721291;1402962163;mircea_popescu;jurov: 721292;1402962163;mircea_popescu; heat math << unterseeminer. << going into the trouble with pressure watertight sealing for hardware with lifespan measured in months? dunno << he has a solid point. the most important effect of overheat is shortening lifespan of chips. for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway 721293;1402962337;mircea_popescu;trinque so what do you do ? 721294;1402962355;trinque;mircea_popescu: write code, hoard bitcoins 721295;1402962360;trinque;yourself? 721296;1402962368;benkay; well, off to pottery class. bon soir // someone's picking up new girlfriends 721297;1402962370;mircea_popescu;im an asshole. 721298;1402962411;benkay;trinque: http://mpex.co 721299;1402962411;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 721300;1402962412;mircea_popescu;benkay pottery not пиздery 721301;1402962448;BingoBoingo;So... after a lot of drinking on the matter I think I know what I'm doing with the portable. 721302;1402962453;benkay;art classes are great places to pick up girls! 721303;1402962479;BingoBoingo;benkay: Cam sites work so much better. 721304;1402962488;mircea_popescu;"single girl in artclass". does this sound like something to get involved with ?! 721305;1402962535;trinque;mircea_popescu: what luck! I too am an asshole 721306;1402962554;mircea_popescu;too late. already said you're a coder. 721307;1402962557;trinque;benkay: interesting 721308;1402962578;BingoBoingo;Then again as mircea_popescu pointed out last month... I probably need to target a cleaner class of girl... 721309;1402962590;mircea_popescu;i pointed out such ?! 721310;1402962596;trinque;hue "cleaner" 721311;1402962611;mircea_popescu;so til argentina has no national drink 721312;1402962618;mircea_popescu;this is a serious drawback 721313;1402962618;moiety;why would you want one that everyone's already seen anyways BingoBoingo 721314;1402962629;moiety;mircea_popescu: do they just drink everything? 721315;1402962658;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I thought it was looking like Malbec... 721316;1402962658;mircea_popescu;apparently. 721317;1402962677;mircea_popescu;and what do you think, he's lookng for something new ?! he's not looking for novelty, he's looking for the same old thing well oiled. 721318;1402962694;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo well ya they have good wine, but i mean licker 721319;1402962707;BingoBoingo;moiety: So you know what they are into. 721320;1402962720;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Wait, no hard liqour of worth there? 721321;1402962734;mircea_popescu;only imports. 721322;1402962737;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00082215 = 18.2517 BTC [-] 721323;1402962747;mircea_popescu;whichj... whatever, havana club 721324;1402962785;mircea_popescu;fluffypony http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-06-16/ << you srsly need better urls 721325;1402962786;assbot;The problem with idioms... 721326;1402962830;BingoBoingo;Eh, if it isn't a good brown liquor, I'm prefer the closest thing I can find to a pure solution of ETOH and water 721327;1402962868;mircea_popescu;re the reddit ghash link, "It's ironic they propose "starting" what everyone else has been doing for years." << this will be the fucking epitaph of bitcoin once it finally fucking croaks 721328;1402962981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06761369 = 0.6761 BTC [-] 721329;1402963165;mthreat;mircea_popescu: fernet 721330;1402963180;mircea_popescu;i'd rather drink donkey piss. 721331;1402963192;mthreat;that doesn't mean it can't be the national drink 721332;1402963210;mthreat;they mix it with coke 721333;1402963214;mircea_popescu;it has to be a drink first. 721334;1402963226;mircea_popescu;!up buanz0 721335;1402963228;mircea_popescu;hey there. 721336;1402963234;buanz0;hi everyone 721337;1402963245;BingoBoingo;mthreat: Describe this fernet 721338;1402963246;mircea_popescu;so you gotta reg your id with gribble. 721339;1402963253;mircea_popescu;it'll give you a challenge and then you're part of the cool kids 721340;1402963256;buanz0;fernet is a herbal bitter that argentines love 721341;1402963291;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo http://i.imgur.com/kdf2hV5.jpg << 10k words. 721342;1402963309;mircea_popescu;that's the central fernet factory 721343;1402963311;mthreat;BingoBoingo: hmm. it's a italian aperitif, I believe. Not very good by itself. 721344;1402963315;buanz0;i will do that later, just popping in for a quick WASSSSSUUUP per your request, mircea_popescu 721345;1402963320;mircea_popescu;coolness. 721346;1402963331;mircea_popescu;so buanz0 is a jiffy/audacity dev guy 721347;1402963331;buanz0;it is awesome by itself, you just need to be non-unitedstatian 721348;1402963340;buanz0;:P 721349;1402963346;mthreat;apparently the hipsters in SF are big on fernet right now 721350;1402963348;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Ack, mthreat At their best bitters of any sort are a garnish, not a drink of themself. 721351;1402963368;buanz0;you might remember that Alfred from batman forever drinks fernet :P 721352;1402963376;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo ill give them ths much tho , you can order strega in most cafes and they'll have it. 721353;1402963391;mthreat;BingoBoingo: an italian told me that in italy they drink it like a medicine 721354;1402963394;mircea_popescu;haven't tried galliano and other herbal shit, but anyway 721355;1402963415;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot 721356;1402963416;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user assbot: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 10 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014 721357;1402963420;mthreat;so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin 721358;1402963425;buanz0;i drink it as a stomach med 721359;1402963426;mircea_popescu;buanz0 ^ check it out, 1st link. 721360;1402963433;mircea_popescu;i betcha you've never seen a wot this cool before :D 721361;1402963461;mircea_popescu; so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin << ok, i can see that. 721362;1402963491;buanz0;i have seen some pretty weird stuff, mir 721363;1402963502;mthreat;mircea_popescu: actually, a place you might like is one of the "secret" speakeasys 721364;1402963514;mircea_popescu;mthreat aite, so let's go sometime. 721365;1402963517;mthreat;deal 721366;1402963540;mircea_popescu;i was telling buanz0 about their bdsm party and he was all like... omg when's the next one. 721367;1402963555;mircea_popescu;then i told him he'll have to talk the wife into going naked, he visibly softened. 721368;1402963592;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Strega's nice. mthreat buanz0 If you want to robotrip just drink the tussin. Unless you have unfortunate genetics at CYP2D6 you'll survive a bottle. 721369;1402963611;mircea_popescu;is this some pseudoephedrin cocktail ? 721370;1402963620;buanz0;LOL 721371;1402963621;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, dextromorphan 721372;1402963625;mircea_popescu;ew 721373;1402963665;buanz0;I distill absinth myself. 721374;1402963672;buanz0;still, not my kind of poison 721375;1402963697;BingoBoingo;Usually there's only a little vomitting. I've only had the experience thrice before surrendering to it being unpleasant in spite of the right genetics. 721376;1402963697;buanz0;naked wifes only in summer 721377;1402963713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18999 @ 0.00082077 = 15.5938 BTC [-] {2} 721378;1402963715;moiety;absinth is what has created my wtf nights 721379;1402963720;mircea_popescu;buanz0 it's heated. 721380;1402963723;buanz0;good for you. 721381;1402963725;benkay; so til argentina has no national drink // fernet! 721382;1402963729;mircea_popescu;by animal means. 721383;1402963734;benkay;it comes in big gulps at the big clubs 721384;1402963740;buanz0;the national drink is a herbal infusion known as mate 721385;1402963742;buanz0;Mate 721386;1402963743;mircea_popescu;benkay rtfl 721387;1402963749;benkay;no u 721388;1402963767;benkay;i have a bag of mate in the cupboard 721389;1402963773;benkay;CAN YOU TELL I LIKED IT? 721390;1402963775;mircea_popescu;what do you do with it ? 721391;1402963777;buanz0;yeah, our national drink means "to do it" in english. we frikin rule :P 721392;1402963793;benkay;buanz0: who are you?? 721393;1402963798;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ever notice people walking around with a big thermos and a small silver cup with a silver "straw"? 721394;1402963800;buanz0;ask mircea 721395;1402963802;mircea_popescu;(also, funny story : i visit friend, she's not there, i decide to make tea. i make tea, i taste it, ittastes like shit. eventually i get bored and leave. 721396;1402963807;benkay;mircea_popescu: who's buanz0 721397;1402963811;buanz0;good 721398;1402963812;mircea_popescu;she calls me later "hey, did you boil some catnip at my place ?!" 721399;1402963812;buanz0;:P 721400;1402963853;moiety;epic lol 721401;1402963858;mircea_popescu;me "ow shit, that's why it tasted like shit. i thought you kept tea in the cupboard" 721402;1402963869;benkay;moiety: i read something you wrote earlier as "5-speed manul" 721403;1402963870;mircea_popescu;her "fuck i spent an hour trying to figure out how this happened" 721404;1402963879;mircea_popescu;mthreat yep 721405;1402963886;BingoBoingo;moiety: I like absinthe, but on ice. None of that sugar cube stuff. Don't want to become another Diabeetus 'Murican. 721406;1402963913;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo im seriously considering a dolce-de-leche only diet for conference 721407;1402963920;mircea_popescu;gotta offer guests the best! 721408;1402963939;mircea_popescu; buanz0: who are you?? RTFL omg! 721409;1402963941;moiety;lol benkay! what have i done to you all in here?! manuls ingrained :D 721410;1402963960;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: As long as the beef accompanies it. 721411;1402963969;mircea_popescu;dolce de leche beef... hmm... 721412;1402963975;moiety;BingoBoingo: never had it on ice. i need the sugar or it's so harsh to me 721413;1402963982;mthreat;conan discovers mate, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DJACP0LytY 721414;1402963982;assbot;Conan O'Brien Drinking Yerba Mate - YouTube 721415;1402963998;moiety;that was originally because of laudenum though, the sugar cube, wasn't it? 721416;1402964014;buanz0;BingoBoingo: I like my absinth with good iced water, depending on the kind of absinth I might add a bit of sugar. the cube thing is just for show. 721417;1402964038;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it... 721418;1402964047;moiety;i thought they dripped laudenum onto the cube and dropped it in the absinthe 721419;1402964056;buanz0;some do. i dont care. 721420;1402964079;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34489 @ 0.00081986 = 28.2762 BTC [-] {3} 721421;1402964079;BingoBoingo;moiety: Too much sugar in the booze leads to booze sweats in the morning. 721422;1402964081;buanz0;i've done my fair bit of distilling and brewing to know how i like to drink :P 721423;1402964090;moiety;sorry 721424;1402964121;buanz0;it all comes down to the different recipes out there, check out www.absenta.cl 721425;1402964140;BingoBoingo;I might just switch to grain alcohol and distilled water. Purity of essence for the win. 721426;1402964156;buanz0;LOL 721427;1402964183;moiety;i have a 5 gallon brown demi john and a 1 gallon clear one. i want to start making my own things. 721428;1402964189;mircea_popescu;<BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it... << ya prolly 721429;1402964234;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you can just drink the medicinal alcohol here. i know, cause i tried it. cue "ok, that is by FAR the most ghetto thing I ever saw you do" from floored assistence 721430;1402964267;buanz0;ok everyone, off to cook. it's 9.17pm in .ar - my nick will be buanzo, mircea knows how to get in touch with me. cya. 721431;1402964293;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Prolly the most valuable part of my college education was learning which 40 oz bottle of Malt liquor were palatable. 721432;1402964345;BingoBoingo;King Cobra, probably the best fermented beverage in the US. 721433;1402964363;mircea_popescu;mthreat but you know, national drink in the sense of how romanians have tzuica and scotts scotch. 721434;1402964393;BingoBoingo;http://www.40ozmaltliquor.com/archive/kingcobra.html 721435;1402964445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.000817 = 18.8727 BTC [-] {2} 721436;1402964446;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ah ok. when i google "argentina national drink" it says mate. I think the national drink is peronism 721437;1402964464;mircea_popescu;eva ? 721438;1402964476;mthreat;ya 721439;1402964482;BingoBoingo;Don't cry for me... Argentina 721440;1402964495;mircea_popescu;i wonder if given a choice to drink marylin or eva who'd people pick 721441;1402964496;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0F4Y94N.txt ) 721442;1402964496;BingoBoingo;!b 5 721443;1402964517;BingoBoingo;Prolla Eva 721444;1402964534;mircea_popescu;personally i think i'd prefer the yankee. 721445;1402964536;mircea_popescu;she was hippy 721446;1402964602;BingoBoingo;The dark hair and ridiculous lipstick on a girl do it for me. 721447;1402964649;mircea_popescu;this should be informative tho : both of them spent their teenage years whoring. 721448;1402964672;BingoBoingo;Indeed, and both rose to astounding success in their whore specialties 721449;1402964682;mircea_popescu;seems the one thing a woman can do to make sure she won't be remarkable, or remembered, is stay in school as a teenager. 721450;1402964723;BingoBoingo;They can prolly stay in school, they just can't date. 721451;1402964801;BingoBoingo;They whore successfully on their own of whore for a master. Classes can be taken around that. 721452;1402964872;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00081672 = 30.382 BTC [-] {2} 721453;1402964889;*;BingoBoingo says this a someone who tried to start a blackboard vs. whiteboard flamewar. 721454;1402964901;mircea_popescu;ya what was that al; about 721455;1402964924;*;asciilifeform blackboard << always wondered if mathematicians ever die of 'white lung' 721456;1402964941;mircea_popescu;moiety thaty looks like a mini 721457;1402964950;BingoBoingo;Whiteboards just don't work, and having been drinking since about... 1PM mircea_popescu time... I supposed aspects of bingo University. 721458;1402964962;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform chalk dust or toluene, pick your embalming technique 721459;1402964970;benkay;;;later tell buanzo nice to meetcha 721460;1402964971;gribble;The operation succeeded. 721461;1402964987;*;asciilifeform picks graphite 721462;1402964995;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: to my knowledge common chalk minerals are readily digested by the lungs... Electronics and chalk are another matter. 721463;1402965009;mircea_popescu;pankkake: and the all bitcoin wallets is an outright lie. << consider the source. the guy doesn't readily know which hole his piss comes out of . 721464;1402965048;moiety;mircea_popescu: :D they were based on minis and the other little coupes of the time 721465;1402965061;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: common chalk minerals << your chalk isn't CaCO3?! do we even want to know? 721466;1402965116;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2251 @ 0.00081664 = 1.8383 BTC [-] 721467;1402965117;Apocalyptic;heh 721468;1402965117;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: When I had access to chalkboards I used a caco3/caso4 mix, whiter lasted longer. 721469;1402965125;mircea_popescu;"snort recycled chalk. it's great for your lungs and interesting for speologists, too!" 721470;1402965177;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 86192 @ 0.00009999 = 8.6183 BTC [+] {4} 721471;1402965193;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: http://28ri4j3anx8g2wfod51alicjuaw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/top-8-people-having-a-bad-day-.1.jpg << ok that was a lol. 721472;1402965232;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: I also can't be arsed to make a Fiverr account. << yeah i kinda need fiver type of things but can'r be arsed either. 721473;1402965251;mircea_popescu;jurov you willing to open your fiverr to the chan ? or who was it that had one, mike ? 721474;1402965252;BingoBoingo;-assets problems 721475;1402965267;BingoBoingo;Maybe fluffypony 721476;1402965273;BingoBoingo;? 721477;1402965279;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: shits weak << he has you there bb. 721478;1402965372;BingoBoingo;Yeah 721479;1402965418;BingoBoingo;Still, I think the matriculation test is a valuable idea. 721480;1402965491;BingoBoingo;By the time a person takes it they are too late to reconsider another institution so after a year of shoveling shit they either get their act together or die. 721481;1402965578;mircea_popescu;what matriculation is that ? 721482;1402965599;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Into the freshman class or the subfreshman class. 721483;1402965602;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/delusional-ceo-says-google-punishes-successful-l-a-com-1591678622/+laceydonohue 721484;1402965603;assbot;Delusional CEO Says Google Punishes Successful L.A. Companies 721485;1402965617;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway << not necessarily. let's gedankenexperiment. picture scenario where the two or three remaining producers ship... sabotaged ic. (take your pick - timed self-destruct, perverted algo with collusion of 'dev' folks, etc.) 721486;1402965642;mircea_popescu;uh ok... 721487;1402965642;asciilifeform;old hardware - suddenly worth something. at least temporarily. 721488;1402965706;nubbins`;right on! so this local arts newspaper wants to do a spread on pink eye for their july issue 721489;1402965716;mircea_popescu;hey good for you 721490;1402965724;nubbins`;tyvm, pictures & everything 721491;1402965734;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform kinda improbable. 721492;1402965778;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo dredging up VAXen also seemed improbable just a few years ago. 721493;1402965795;mircea_popescu;no bit look 721494;1402965817;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Indeed it did, but nao.... 721495;1402965819;mircea_popescu;the "value" of the sabotage is high. to expect an agent to do a high value thing just so YOU can capture its benefits... 721496;1402965826;mircea_popescu;obviously if they do that, they have a bullet for you, too. 721497;1402965854;mircea_popescu;rarely will someone kill the queen to die to the bishop as it were 721498;1402965899;BingoBoingo;Happens, but you need at least two bishops for checkmate. 721499;1402965918;asciilifeform;i'd even dare to guess that the much-hyped ic fab diddling does indeed take place - but through... 721500;1402965925;asciilifeform;... diddled toolchains. 721501;1402965932;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo happens in constrained spaces 721502;1402965935;mircea_popescu;not so much in open 721503;1402965944;asciilifeform;nobody's gone over tape-out mask with a magnifying glass since when, '85 ? 721504;1402965961;asciilifeform;think: variation on the ken thompson theme. 721505;1402965966;mircea_popescu;right 721506;1402965969;asciilifeform;yereaditherephurst (tm) 721507;1402965977;mircea_popescu;nobody has a clue what's in their toolchain anyway 721508;1402965983;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: If you wipe out the other pieces two bishops and a king can mate a king. actually works better with less clutter on the boardd. 721509;1402965990;mircea_popescu;it could secretly hum ave maria very quietly for all anyone knew 721510;1402966025;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo by open i mean, a situation that doesn't have a fixed border at the 8th column, ora fixed nuymber of pieces and no generators etcv 721511;1402966054;asciilifeform;likewise: if the toolchain is diddled on the manufacturer's (golden master copy) end, you can own multiple (all?) ic producers. 721512;1402966069;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: In that case you aren't playing chess, but instead a more interesting game. 721513;1402966073;asciilifeform;the monoculture in engineering software puts microshit to shame 721514;1402966082;mircea_popescu;yup 721515;1402966087;mircea_popescu;(to both of you) 721516;1402966100;asciilifeform;afaik this has been discussed - nowhere. 721517;1402966116;*;mircea_popescu whistles... nowhere but here baby, for if you make it here 721518;1402966120;mircea_popescu;you make it... everywhere 721519;1402966125;asciilifeform;lol 721520;1402966139;BingoBoingo;afaik asciilifeform HN and the aggregators banned you for a reasons... 721521;1402966153;mircea_popescu;fud? 721522;1402966159;asciilifeform;spamz 721523;1402966166;asciilifeform;spud? 721524;1402966193;BingoBoingo;Seekrits... FPGAs as user interactive platforms. 721525;1402966214;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00081655 = 30.1307 BTC [-] {2} 721526;1402966262;BingoBoingo;All of a sudden any user makes their own wildly incompatible bedrocks. 721527;1402966264;asciilifeform;betcha all the current btc asic houses use, e.g. 'synopsys' 721528;1402966277;BingoBoingo;Shhhh.... 721529;1402966295;mircea_popescu;actually this could be a pretty decent haxxor project 721530;1402966307;asciilifeform;even more fun than the traditional compiler infector. 721531;1402966309;mircea_popescu;"hijack the fab toolchain" 721532;1402966312;asciilifeform;(yes they're still extant) 721533;1402966326;BingoBoingo;It's what Gov-hash.io would do. 721534;1402966378;mthreat;dumb mining question: is electricity the biggest cost these days? If so, has anyone set up an operation in a locale with cheap (possibly subsidized) electricity? 721535;1402966411;mircea_popescu;not the biggest cost, but a relevant factor ; yes. 721536;1402966428;BingoBoingo;mthreat: The biggest mining cost has always been the opportunity cost. 721537;1402966448;asciilifeform;picture: silicocalypse, and just chuck moore left standing. 721538;1402966451;mthreat;BingoBoingo: that's why I haven't pursued mining 721539;1402966454;asciilifeform;(he's got his own end-to-end chain) 721540;1402966458;mthreat;mircea_popescu: argentina has subsidized electricity, i believe 721541;1402966465;mircea_popescu;so does china 721542;1402966466;mthreat;mircea_popescu: partially subsidized, i mean 721543;1402966491;mthreat;ok. I figured folks were already all over that. 721544;1402966511;mircea_popescu;the one thing that may make a datacenter feasible is having someone trustworthy to oversee it 721545;1402966523;mircea_popescu;that's an unbeatable service, pretty much everyone is shady as fuck 721546;1402966525;mircea_popescu;see cex.io etc 721547;1402966605;BingoBoingo;Cex.io is going to cause much more butthurt than Gox ever could and it was promoted by the same tards. 721548;1402966622;kakobrekla;was it ? 721549;1402966642;mircea_popescu;well, it was promoted also by a set of tards that promote everything 721550;1402966648;mircea_popescu;so in thatsens 721551;1402966649;mircea_popescu;e] 721552;1402966658;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: I'm talking on the low end. Last summer. 721553;1402966679;BingoBoingo;At its birth Cex has derps by the ISIS truckload. 721554;1402966688;kakobrekla;i dunno. the asset they trade only goes down. 721555;1402966722;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla so clearly it's bvetter than all other investments. stop trolling :D 721556;1402966736;kakobrekla;kk 721557;1402966774;BingoBoingo;Nasty honest... 721558;1402966818;BingoBoingo;Where the consistent loses are merely club dues. 721559;1402966879;mircea_popescu;the death of critical thinking in school curricula has inter alia resulted in this mass of idiots who will think they're important and meaningful no matter what. 721560;1402966893;mircea_popescu;which in turn creates a class of guys selling them participation. 721561;1402966907;mircea_popescu;someone should make the club of "responsible people that keep the sun rising" 721562;1402966929;mircea_popescu;and you know, collect 20 bux a week in exchange for equipment these idiots "use" to make the sun keep rising 721563;1402966946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16257 @ 0.00081604 = 13.2664 BTC [-] {2} 721564;1402967003;BingoBoingo;Well, people still need to buy participation in the form of Trilema credits to keep up with the cool kids. The bottom of the class will never understand the distinct difference in value returned. 721565;1402967052;mircea_popescu;if all it took weresome tcredits to make someone smart... 721566;1402967082;BingoBoingo;It doesn't work. I tried throwing around trilema cookies when TF's coinchat was a thing. 721567;1402967105;mircea_popescu;orly ?! 721568;1402967136;BingoBoingo;Yeah, people kept buying cex inspite of the PMB article. 721569;1402967201;mircea_popescu;lolk 721570;1402967237;BingoBoingo;This goes into the distinction between mike_c and TheNewDeal trying to buy into my no bet against the same hard boundaries and only one of them speaking a language I could agree to. 721571;1402967352;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Wanted to purchase exactly what the bet could underwrite. TheNewDeal wanted something better. Even if mike_c's payment would have been lower it was infinitely more attractive because the bet could underwrite itself. 721572;1402967432;mircea_popescu;ic 721573;1402967516;BingoBoingo;The Coinchat tard were largely forum tards for whom the forum could not burn their money fast enough. And without and option to remotely fry their retinas I had no stick with which to educate them. 721574;1402967557;BingoBoingo;They could not understand Cex.io was a PMB with greater risk to themselves. 721575;1402967646;mircea_popescu;lol 721576;1402967753;BingoBoingo;Also so many people fell for other idiots pitches where they were making asics in their garage. It was a nightmare. 721577;1402967761;moiety;This hasn't changed. You can explain until you are blue in the face. People do not want to listen/learn. 721578;1402967791;BingoBoingo;On the plus side though people would do anything for a bitcent. 721579;1402967812;mircea_popescu;kinmda how i feel about substance abuse 721580;1402967825;mircea_popescu;you can tlel people anything you want, they're still gonna imagine drugs are cool mkay 721581;1402967863;BingoBoingo;Yeah. 721582;1402967877;*;moiety nods 721583;1402967893;mircea_popescu;it's all a case of "hey dawg, we heard you like endorphins so we put more endorphins in your endorphins so you can space out while you';re spacing out" 721584;1402967900;mircea_popescu;gl getting it through. 721585;1402967918;moiety;i have given up trying 721586;1402968002;BingoBoingo;Casualty of if you can you must http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/hall-of-famer-tony-gwynn-dies-at-54-after-cancer-battle?ymd=20140616&content_id=80040976&vkey=news_mlb 721587;1402968002;assbot;Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn dies at 54 after cancer battle | MLB.com: News 721588;1402968132;BingoBoingo;Honestly I doubt anything could end civilization faster than booze without the hangover, but then... You see those opiates collapsing US civilization. 721589;1402968196;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo actually romanian booze doesn't give you a hangover 721590;1402968202;mircea_popescu;just a pleasant mellow th next day 721591;1402968214;mircea_popescu;that's why we never amount to anything 721592;1402968227;BingoBoingo;That would eplain your dissatisfactions with Timisoara's direction 721593;1402968235;mircea_popescu;how so ? 721594;1402968260;BingoBoingo;If getting fucked up has no consequences no one appreciates the danger of it. 721595;1402968284;BingoBoingo;And no one does anything because they can painlessly numb away their failure. 721596;1402968319;mircea_popescu;a, their drink up around there is kinda shitty. 721597;1402968336;mircea_popescu;sorta like you know, "new hampshire moonshine" 721598;1402968353;BingoBoingo;Ouch 721599;1402968417;mircea_popescu;ok the rosenblatt article is quite lulzy 721600;1402968426;mircea_popescu;While Demand Media went public for a blistering $2 billion in 2011, its articles were largely useless, with titles ranging from "How to Boil Water" to "How to Turn on a Mac Computer." Google, in an effort to serve up quality content to its users, dropped Demand's articles down in the search results. The company's traffic plummeted and its shareholders were left researching "How to Write Off a Worthless Stock." 721601;1402968494;BingoBoingo;I think at my lowest points I made a couple tanks of gas off of them. Stopped because their editorial policies made anything useful impossible. 721602;1402968514;mircea_popescu;https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070820011514AAt4rlU 721603;1402968515;assbot;Am i pregnent???? please help me....? 721604;1402968565;kakobrekla;chill the fuck down assbot, you are not. 721605;1402968590;mircea_popescu;lol win. 721606;1402968596;decimation;I watched "Elysium" on the redeye back from hawaii last night. Steve Sailor's review nails it: http://takimag.com/article/elysium_neill_blomkamp_fools_the_critics_again_steve_sailer 721607;1402968597;assbot;Elysium: Neill Blomkamp Fools the Critics Again - Taki's Magazine 721608;1402968599;mircea_popescu;what have been doing with the assbot kako ? 721609;1402968604;peterl;so I was reading the trilema about the D series 721610;1402968615;peterl;essentially it is naked shorting derps? 721611;1402968616;moiety;lmao @ "if he spirmed in you" 721612;1402968632;mircea_popescu;peterl yea 721613;1402968648;peterl;and how does that squash them? 721614;1402968654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00081584 = 7.7782 BTC [-] {2} 721615;1402968654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10022 @ 0.0001 = 1.0022 BTC [+] 721616;1402968662;mircea_popescu;that's complicated. 721617;1402968684;peterl;I figured. is there a simple way to understand it? 721618;1402968699;BingoBoingo;Complicated in the same way that earned Amphoteracin the nickname Amphoterrible. 721619;1402968725;BingoBoingo;;;later tell BingoBoingo you should do some pharacology posts 721620;1402968726;gribble;The operation succeeded. 721621;1402968743;peterl;And if they never list their company publicly, you just get to keep the money? 721622;1402968780;peterl;What happens if they sell out to a big company instead of listing? 721623;1402968800;mircea_popescu;peterl perhaps. suppose some guy comes to your town and starts seelling bottled water as "magical healing elixir" 721624;1402968817;mircea_popescu;for 95 a bottle. 721625;1402968823;mircea_popescu;now suppose 7/11 down thestreet from him sees this and puts up an ad : "same thing. 75c" 721626;1402968845;peterl;so people buy from 7-11 721627;1402968857;mircea_popescu;kinda makes it difficult for the shills pretending to be buying from the guy. 721628;1402968884;mircea_popescu;because now they are actually going against sanity, much like the "havelock users" that somehow "bought" the re-ipo, briefly at 200% averages 721629;1402968897;mircea_popescu;the rent re-ipo* 721630;1402968915;peterl;but doesn't derp have infinite hitpoints? 721631;1402968928;mircea_popescu;problem with these deals is that they're not for derps. 721632;1402968930;BingoBoingo;peterl: Derp lacks infinite money. 721633;1402968951;mircea_popescu;that's the whole selling point of a series a : "buy before the masses" 721634;1402968976;mircea_popescu;if anyone can have it, for cheaper, you can't sell more. 721635;1402968981;peterl;ah, so this is a way to make money off the endless stream of derps? 721636;1402969002;mircea_popescu;if you can't sell more, and even if you have good reason to suspect you won't be able to sell more, you have no furhter reasopn to even try 721637;1402969007;mircea_popescu;not like you're in it for reals anyway. 721638;1402969028;mircea_popescu;no. this is a way to expose the usg agents trying to push bitcoin a certain way. 721639;1402969075;peterl;do you expect people to actually buy shares from you, or will it just be a way to expose the sham they are running? 721640;1402969109;mircea_popescu;i expect anyone who actually thinks one of the things is worth money to buy from me first, yes. 721641;1402969114;mircea_popescu;kinda how economics work. 721642;1402969130;kakobrekla;(in theory) 721643;1402969145;mircea_popescu;no, it's actually how economics work in practice. 721644;1402969175;peterl;but buying from you does not get capital to the people who would make it work 721645;1402969178;mircea_popescu;anyway, it exposes the hostile agents to a hard case of the "either stupid or evil" dilemma. 721646;1402969190;mircea_popescu;it does, sure. 721647;1402969246;decimation;presumably the 'founders' who believed in their company would buy shares too 721648;1402969280;BingoBoingo;decimation: If they need capital why would they buy shares? 721649;1402969292;mircea_popescu;no but there's no difference between avoiding a debt and making a gain. inasmuch as the offer is there, it's indifferent who you buy from. if you buy from me you prevent someone else from doing so, who will in turn have to buy from the "Founders" 721650;1402969305;mircea_popescu;economy is still a zero sum game, and you don't actually have political directionality. 721651;1402969306;kakobrekla;i guess we shall see about the practice part. 721652;1402969354;peterl;BingoBoingo: if they had capital, why would they be selling shares? 721653;1402969384;decimation;I think bingo means why would they buy D series from mircea 721654;1402969392;BingoBoingo;decimation: No. 721655;1402969409;BingoBoingo;peterl: You didn't quite hit the contrapositive of my position. 721656;1402969423;peterl;I don't think I meant to? 721657;1402969452;Mats_cd03;decimation: elysium's production value was incredible. props from peter jackson's failed halo movie made it into elysium, like the flying machine 721658;1402969472;BingoBoingo;peterl: Because your construction is silly. How much capital has Armandi raised for no purpose. 721659;1402969503;peterl;So you are saying they would raise capital and then use it to buy D shares? 721660;1402969508;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00081727 = 0.9039 BTC [+] 721661;1402969527;mircea_popescu;i suppose that could yield them a profit. 721662;1402969533;BingoBoingo;peterl: No, you are trying to add context absent from my proposition. 721663;1402969556;asciilifeform;they could also saw off their own limbs and roast them. save on food cost for their startup. 721664;1402969562;mircea_popescu;so apparently bitcoind has a serious problem with moving timezones 721665;1402969576;decimation;mats: heh yeah you are right. I think he was trying to convey several points: 1.) half measures don't work - shoot down the third world shuttles when they invade 2.) democracy turns to decadence - too weak to hold the allodial rights to a domain 721666;1402969656;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I kind of though that was part of the MP attitude towards building certain ideas. If you lack the captital to not roast your leg and can't ask for money, you eat yourself. 721667;1402969669;mircea_popescu;"Then he got to her essay. As he remembers it, she mentioned a French teacher she greatly admired. She described their one-on-one conversation at the end of a school day. And then, this detail: During their talk, when an urge to go to the bathroom could no longer be denied, she decided not to interrupt the teacher or exit the room. She simply urinated on herself." 721668;1402969748;Mats_cd03;yeah and for fucks sake audit your code so the peasants dont ruin elysium 721669;1402969749;decimation;lol re: college admissions - it's also well known that putting something like "future farmer of america" or "boy scout" or "rotc" (high school junior military "club") greatly reduces the probability of admission 721670;1402969777;decimation;mats: yeah that's the other point - if the "logic" of your computerized government system is reprogrammable, you've fucked up 721671;1402969792;mircea_popescu;boy scout ?! why ? 721672;1402969796;mircea_popescu;not gay enough anymore ? 721673;1402969811;asciilifeform;the wrong gay 721674;1402969817;BingoBoingo;decimation: My Eagle scoutness did not adversly affect my admissionness to undergrad. 721675;1402969825;asciilifeform;(as outlined in mp's essay on the subclasses) 721676;1402969825;decimation;did you go to an ivy league? 721677;1402969853;BingoBoingo;decimation: No, incentive for such was insufficient. 721678;1402969862;mircea_popescu;lol so then you don't count 721679;1402969867;BingoBoingo;Fattest person on the team hit a triple https://twitter.com/LangoschMLB/status/478714633327349760 721680;1402969868;assbot;Matt Adams now tied for the /hashtag/stlcards?src=hash team lead with three triples. 721681;1402969871;decimation;well, basically going to ivy league is religious indoctrination 721682;1402969881;decimation;so it's not suprising that they only select the non-heretics 721683;1402969885;mircea_popescu;ima brb. 721684;1402969898;BingoBoingo;decimation: I went to a Methodist college, but... Methodism isn't a real religion anyways. 721685;1402969925;decimation;Methodism has backslid into general liberal derpiness 721686;1402969961;BingoBoingo;decimation: No, it just realized its only potential value is a a social club 721687;1402969971;BingoBoingo;Derpiness comes later 721688;1402970011;decimation;if you discount Christianity's assertations about the nature, I would agree with you 721689;1402970024;decimation;"the nature" being the natural and the supernatural 721690;1402970095;BingoBoingo;decimation: You have to realize what I say about methodism is purely as an outside observer. 721691;1402970096;decimation;asciilifeform: re: engineering toolchain - I wonder if Intel's toolchain suppliers have ever experimented with "enhancements" 721692;1402970126;decimation;the motive, means, and opportunity are there 721693;1402970189;BingoBoingo;I remember when AMD fucked their compilers by cribbing Intel 721694;1402970237;decimation;some of intel's performance libraries will refuse to work on AMD hardware, unsurprisingly 721695;1402970286;BingoBoingo;Right, even though ideally the same instruction sets are implemented. 721696;1402970409;decimation;re: elyisum (from steve sailor's review): "Elysium originated in a disastrous visit to Mexico in 2005. While shooting a Nike commercial in lovely San Diego, the Boer crossed the border one evening to see Tijuana, where he was abducted by corrupt Mexican cops who shook him down for $900 in return for not killing him." 721697;1402970446;decimation;the genius thing is that he got the critics to rave that he was writing a movie about Obamacare 721698;1402970479;decimation;"Art, from the Great Pyramid on down, is actually about the most talented and/or self-confident bullying the rest of us into furnishing them with the resources to realize their visions, while the nice liberal dweebs pass on to us the artists? self-serving justifications." 721699;1402970632;moiety;i've made a start to the wiki bot commands list with assbot, i'll finish gribble tomorrow. mod6 and i working on atcbot soon. totally wiped out, night all :] 721700;1402970642;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 721701;1402970645;gribble;Current Blocks: 306237 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 194 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13315704078.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.26199 721702;1402970789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00082386 = 27.3933 BTC [+] {2} 721703;1402971055;benkay; essentially it is naked shorting derps? // peterl yea // how does this square with your recent pronouncements against naked shorting? 721704;1402971421;benkay;Mats_cd03: you could always do spv on ios 721705;1402971423;benkay;(hue) 721706;1402971472;TheNewDeal;praise the hashgods, the bitcoin network is strong once again 721707;1402971607;benkay;prase the handjobs! 721708;1402971614;BingoBoingo;http://deadspin.com/how-tony-gwynn-cracked-baseballs-code-and-became-a-lege-1591491368 721709;1402971615;assbot;How Tony Gwynn Cracked Baseball's Code And Became A Legend 721710;1402971640;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: You have to realize there is plenty of time for... externalities 721711;1402971656;TheNewDeal;there was, the window is increasingly tightening 721712;1402971700;TheNewDeal;literally about 13 days for something drastic to happen 721713;1402971725;BingoBoingo;And what was this weekend? We could have a full blown pool war. 721714;1402971741;TheNewDeal;didn't seem to slow the hashrate 721715;1402971767;Mats_cd03;benkay: im going to push some bit-c eventually, just a matter of time 721716;1402971768;BingoBoingo;For a while ~50% of the hashrate was out of the game. 721717;1402971785;TheNewDeal;huh? 721718;1402971803;TheNewDeal;when did this occur 721719;1402971813;BingoBoingo;The Ghash.io DDoS 721720;1402971840;Mats_cd03;er bit-c code, dropped a word. 721721;1402971889;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: It wasn't a long thing, seemed like a strong warning. 721722;1402971900;Mats_cd03;ecdsa+gpg signing, gpg-agent, coin selection is what im working on 721723;1402971931;TheNewDeal;yah I was going to say, the sipa chart doesn't show much of a bump http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth-10k.png 721724;1402971986;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Looked like a warning shot. I imagine actual violence comes later. 721725;1402972012;Mats_cd03;95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad 721726;1402972014;BingoBoingo;Also there's the part where this bet has me sweating. 721727;1402972024;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Embrace it. 721728;1402972046;*;BingoBoingo plays FFVII, about to fuck up Wutai 721729;1402972441;Mats_cd03;benkay: i forget exactly what it was you wanted. tx ids and a json api? 721730;1402972802;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.0665643 = 4.127 BTC [-] {10} 721731;1402973290;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0008216 = 6.2852 BTC [-] 721732;1402973724;mircea_popescu;benkay: 721733;1402973724;mircea_popescu; essentially it is naked shorting derps? // peterl yea // how does this square with your recent pronouncements against naked shorting? << division by 0 is a problem, 0 divided by 0 is not. 721734;1402973786;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before 721735;1402974003;mircea_popescu;ahaha get a load of this 721736;1402974003;mircea_popescu;Michele Hernandez, another prominent admissions counselor, runs one or more sessions of an Application Boot Camp every summer in which roughly 25 to 30 kids will be tucked away for four days in a hotel to work with a team of about eight editors on what she told me were as many as 10 drafts of each of three to five different essays. The camp costs $14,000 per student. That doesnt include travel to it, the hotel bill 721737;1402974004;mircea_popescu;, breakfast or dinners, but it does include lunch and a range of guidance, both before and during the four days, on how students should fill out college applications and best showcase themselves. 721738;1402974007;mircea_popescu;Hernandez, Jager-Hyman and others in the booming admissions-counseling business 721739;1402974014;mircea_popescu;booming ? fucking scam, 15k for nothing. 721740;1402974032;mircea_popescu;Admissions officers pay as much attention to students choice of essay topic as they do to the details in their essays, Motto told me. 721741;1402974042;mircea_popescu;i'd be fucken surprised if anyone ever read one of those things 721742;1402974085;BingoBoingo; Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before << at least ncurses has docs... unlike gnome 721743;1402974099;Apocalyptic; when we go into space, real estate prices on earth will crash 721744;1402974099;Apocalyptic; poor people will live better 721745;1402974116;Apocalyptic;what shit can people come to these days... 721746;1402974301;mircea_popescu;lol 721747;1402974332;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo gnome prolly doesn't actually exist at all 721748;1402974338;mircea_popescu;just an insider joek 721749;1402974409;BingoBoingo;I'm starting to think that to an extent people can find use for Desktop environments over windowmangers, Xfce may be where it is at. 721750;1402974511;BingoBoingo;Actually has decent separation of things. 721751;1402975267;mircea_popescu;!up napedia 721752;1402975282;mircea_popescu;;;rate napedia 1 I got a fan. 721753;1402975284;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user napedia has been recorded. 721754;1402975500;asciilifeform;gnome!? 721755;1402975538;*;asciilifeform must've woken up in 2002 721756;1402975597;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 15k for nothing << surprisingly few people are aware of an interesting scam the 'ivy' unis run 721757;1402975609;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: they make it virtually impossible for a kid to flunk 721758;1402975655;mircea_popescu;i bet they do 721759;1402975655;asciilifeform;(various means. sometimes direct diddling of grades, some even abolished grading for first years; many methods) 721760;1402975666;asciilifeform;while in public unis, at least in hard sciences, 40-50% flunk 721761;1402975676;mircea_popescu;once they got a sucker theyd rater not lose it 721762;1402975695;BingoBoingo;SLAC ends tend to be the same but the means are subtler than Ivys as always 721763;1402975699;mircea_popescu;a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face 721764;1402975712;mircea_popescu;you just can't get such a good measure of kids coupla years post puberty 721765;1402975714;asciilifeform;so now you know one of the services they provide. 721766;1402975725;Apocalyptic; a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face << pretty much 721767;1402975726;asciilifeform;guaranteed max grade 721768;1402975753;asciilifeform;but in order to provide this service, they must maintain the illusion of 'we only recruit True Genius!' 721769;1402975763;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yes, but it's max grade from the forum's investor grading thing. A+++ 721770;1402975768;asciilifeform;precisely this one 721771;1402975806;mircea_popescu;yes but economy has the same age old problem : it's real. once i know that ivy league predicts non-competence im not hiring them anymore. 721772;1402975814;mircea_popescu;signals be signals, all i need is to know what they mean. 721773;1402975826;asciilifeform;the next stage of pipeline for the ivy kids (employment, either directly in .gov, or the many quasi-private arms of the ussa hydra) follows the same formula. 721774;1402975835;asciilifeform;i.e. hire the folks with the yale '4.0' 721775;1402975848;asciilifeform;it's a kind of smaller 'komsomol' 721776;1402975861;mircea_popescu;exactly how the chinese ended up ruled by manchuku, too. 721777;1402975887;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu knows history, cannot be surprised 721778;1402975914;decimation;mircea: except the job of the ivies is to prepare someone to coddle USG for a living 721779;1402976052;BingoBoingo;See. I imagine a solution to this problem. Matriculation exam and a subfreshman class aspiring to not shovel shit the next year. 721780;1402976068;bitstein;;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege. 721781;1402976069;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 8 for user napedia has been recorded. 721782;1402976099;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: what problem. the 'patient' is 100% microzoa by weight at this point. 721783;1402976102;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I imagine gnome is one of those abandonware projects like gnash people flock to merely for their existence 721784;1402976131;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'he' needs - not antibiotic - but proper burial. 721785;1402976144;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: The mercy problem. They have 1 year to study before becoming the shit they shovel. 721786;1402976158;asciilifeform;[insert obligatory mit battery film] 721787;1402976162;asciilifeform;;;mitbattery 721788;1402976163;gribble;Error: "mitbattery" is not a valid command. 721789;1402976175;BingoBoingo;;;google mit battery 721790;1402976176;gribble;Batteries | MIT News Office: ; Liquid Metal Batteries - Group Sadoway: ; Saying goodbye to batteries - MIT: 721791;1402976185;BingoBoingo;;;google mit battery fail 721792;1402976186;gribble;A123's Technology Just Wasn't Good Enough | MIT Technology ...: ; Technical Innovations Help Explain Why Tesla Is Succeeding and ...: ; What the Tesla Battery Fire Means for Electric Vehicles | MIT ...: (1 more message) 721793;1402976195;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334 721794;1402976195;assbot;MIT genuises with lightbulb - YouTube 721795;1402976197;BingoBoingo;OMG conspiracy!!! 721796;1402976259;bitstein;;;rate justusranvier 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. John Connor of Bitcoin. 721797;1402976261;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 8 for user justusranvier has been recorded. 721798;1402976262;decimation;re gnome: I wonder why Redhat continues to favor gnome - it seems KDE is far more professional for a "desktop environment" 721799;1402976265;asciilifeform;related: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm 721800;1402976266;assbot;Why I am Not a Professor 721801;1402976274;asciilifeform;^ recommended reading. british, but generally applicable. 721802;1402976333;decimation;ascii, as long as USG is able to keep the bezzle going - joining the bezzle wot is going to be profitable. Ivies are the traditional entrance to the bezzle wot 721803;1402976352;asciilifeform;decimation: not a secret. only throwing some light on the mechanics. 721804;1402976370;decimation;right, the question is merely guessing when the machine explodes, and how to hide 721805;1402976383;bitstein;;;rate mircea_popescu 2 Great blog, presides over great #bitcoin-assets group. Very welcoming. 721806;1402976384;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. 721807;1402976437;decimation;examining the details is interesting though. Here's a USG employee who was actually "fired" - and he named names: http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/40868nasa-heliophysics-director-fired 721808;1402976438;assbot;NASA Heliophysics Director Fired | SpaceNews.com 721809;1402976462;decimation;"?I believe that the problems in the Heliophysics Division are dominated by the continuing actions of Dr. Madhulika Guhathakurta,? Chenette wrote. ?By her actions she chooses not to work as a member of the Heliophysics Division team. More than any other person she has been an unusually divisive and polarizing presence in the heliophysics community.? 721810;1402976515;asciilifeform;at least they didn't plug him 721811;1402976518;asciilifeform;like this fellow 721812;1402976519;asciilifeform;http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Livermore-Engineer-s-Mysterious-Death-3240466.php 721813;1402976520;assbot;Livermore Engineer's Mysterious Death / Investigators in the brutal slaying of Lee Scott Hall -- who found a flaw in a billion-dollar project -- are exasperated by the lab's lack of cooperation - SFGate 721814;1402976523;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.0008216 = 14.1857 BTC [-] 721815;1402976525;bitstein;;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Great blog, brought me into the #bitcoin-assets WoT. 721816;1402976527;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded. 721817;1402976530;decimation;where did Ms. Guhathakurta pop up in google? http://womensvoicesforchange.org/lives-of-the-stars-courtesy-of-whoopi-goldberg-madhlika-guhathakurta-ro-kinzler-and-a-cast-of-millions.htm 721818;1402976530;assbot;Lives of the Stars, Courtesy of Whoopi Goldberg, Madhlika Guhathakurta, Ro Kinzler and A Cast of Millions | Women's Voices For Change 721819;1402976561;decimation;In addition, NASA?s Guhathakurta pointed to a core philosophical theme, about the connections among the building blocks of the universe and their connection to human beings. ?People will have now seen it with their own eyes,? she said. ?And they will see that at a very deep level ? a molecular level, really ? we are all connected to each other.? 721820;1402976578;decimation;So, basically the guy was fired because he was put in charge of a Party member 721821;1402976608;decimation;and was confused when he thought his nominal job title meant anything to the way power is actually excercised 721822;1402976611;BingoBoingo;decimation: KDE isn't a desktop environment anymore though. It is nao a kitchen sink circle jerk. Eventually they'll make a kernel... Just you wait... 721823;1402976636;decimation;yeah KDE went downhill after around 3, when it was just a desktop environment 721824;1402976662;BingoBoingo;I like Xfce for no other reason than they basically... stopped... 721825;1402976673;BingoBoingo;Still, it is no CDE 721826;1402976677;asciilifeform;decimation: gotta understand why they threw this fellow under the bus to cover for the shaman 721827;1402976681;asciilifeform;nasa has problems 721828;1402976703;decimation;heliophysics can also have problems 721829;1402976709;asciilifeform;namely, it's quite close to the front of the line for the chopping block 721830;1402976720;asciilifeform;how to get public support? court shamans 721831;1402976733;asciilifeform;don't be surprised to see nasa-branded horoscopes 721832;1402976774;decimation;well, the current pseudoscience shamanhood appears to be the climate change wing of the party 721833;1402976776;asciilifeform;plenty of physics folks still getting bread ticket there. but they are taught - on what toes not to step. 721834;1402976785;asciilifeform;this one wasn't a quick learner. 721835;1402976801;decimation;as long as your obscure research "proves climate change", you will avoid "problems" 721836;1402976867;asciilifeform;easy target. but understand that u.s. academia is divided into pissant fiefdoms entirely like the climate chumpatron 721837;1402976869;asciilifeform;just more obscure 721838;1402976880;asciilifeform;e.g. the fusion folks 721839;1402976899;decimation;yeah moldbug talks about the same phenomenon in computer science 721840;1402976904;asciilifeform;as described, for example, here - http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/anatomy-of-a-fusion-press-release 721841;1402976906;assbot;Anatomy of a Fusion press release | Locklin on science 721842;1402976919;*;asciilifeform must have spammed the moldbug-on-cs link a thousand times 721843;1402976936;BingoBoingo;OMG, these chicken livers were prolly my best purchase this year. 721844;1402976963;BingoBoingo;2lbs of them already fired for $3.50 721845;1402977003;asciilifeform;re: nasa & collapse - the very same thing happened in ussr 721846;1402977024;asciilifeform;physicists selling 'biorhythm' charts in bazaars to feed their children, etc 721847;1402977052;asciilifeform;public wants snake oil. academia - retools for snake production. 721848;1402977088;asciilifeform;all the 'democracy' catabolic collapse processes get thrown into high gear when the paycheques stop coming. 721849;1402977104;asciilifeform;thought pandering to bureaucrats sucked? try the public. 721850;1402977158;decimation;the mind reels. the amusing thing is that most of the "red state" enemies of the USG elite all think democracy is the best thing since sliced bread 721851;1402977160;asciilifeform;'наука и жизнь' ('science & life', the russian equivalent of the - pre-90s-decay - 'scientific american') circa '91-97 was running pieces on nostradamus. 721852;1402977170;asciilifeform;just to keep the heat on 721853;1402977193;decimation;well, "popular science etc" are pretty much there today 721854;1402977233;asciilifeform;just remember kidz, we're all connected to each other and the universe through quantum-intestinal resonance. 721855;1402977241;asciilifeform;laugh now - press release later. 721856;1402977293;asciilifeform;decimation: the 'red' folks will get their nasa museaums, with noah's flood, etc 721857;1402977412;decimation;lol the scott locklin article. basically the NIF is a shrine to big engineering project meets pseudoscience 721858;1402977467;asciilifeform;decimation: visit any university lab in the u.s., anywhere. invite a postdoc for a drink, ask how much of what is done stands any chance whatsoever of 'working' - in the customary meaning of the word. 721859;1402977550;decimation;well, all of this stems from a lack of accountability and discipline. why not propose a $2bn shrine to ignorance? people in my district need jobs you know 721860;1402977591;asciilifeform;anything resembling 'accountability' would see the entire orchestra demolishes, the earth where it stood - salted. 721861;1402977616;decimation;yeah and the elites know it, even if only in the hindbrain 721862;1402977684;decimation;perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do 721863;1402977927;decimation;asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/ 721864;1402977928;assbot;Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians 721865;1402977952;decimation;it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective 721866;1402977970;decimation;if you get most of your population into extremely cheap bunkers quickly, very few will die 721867;1402978007;decimation;this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs" 721868;1402978020;decimation;so - civil defense got the boot. 721869;1402978109;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.06539315 = 1.8964 BTC [-] {4} 721870;1402978414;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00082175 = 14.3395 BTC [+] {2} 721871;1402978619;Mats_cd03;uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage? 721872;1402978677;decimation;right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared 721873;1402978764;nubbins`;[01:04:30] <+bitstein> ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege. 721874;1402978773;nubbins`;^ lel, but how many t-shirts? 721875;1402978794;decimation;"If you want peace, be ready for war. If you want to encourage aggressors, disarm." 721876;1402979024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06698006 = 0.6698 BTC [+] 721877;1402979668;BingoBoingo;;;later tell decimation Is our last name Teller by any chance? 721878;1402979669;gribble;The operation succeeded. 721879;1402980732;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00082408 = 25.1756 BTC [+] {2} 721880;1402980949;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/top-us-patent-judge-resigns-following-ethical-breach/ 721881;1402980949;assbot;Top US patent judge resigns following ethical breach | Ars Technica 721882;1402981252;BingoBoingo;;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange. 721883;1402981252;gribble;The operation succeeded. 721884;1402981313;BingoBoingo;http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell 721885;1402981314;assbot;There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta 721886;1402981609;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/report-seattle-paid-17500-to-boost-online-reputation-of-city-official/ 721887;1402981610;assbot;Report: Seattle paid $17,500 to boost online reputation of city official | Ars Technica 721888;1402982085;mircea_popescu;cheap. 721889;1402982107;mircea_popescu;the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official. 721890;1402982155;BingoBoingo;lol 721891;1402982201;mircea_popescu;!up RedStallion 721892;1402982205;BingoBoingo;Malaki paid ~1200 soldiers to keep his boys in Baghdad from deserting. 721893;1402982222;mircea_popescu;now that's cheap 721894;1402982238;BingoBoingo;Historically yeah. 721895;1402982285;BingoBoingo;http://www.bestgore.com/execution/photo-mass-execution-iraq-soldiers-isis/ 721896;1402982285;assbot;Photos of Mass Executions of Iraqi Soldiers by ISIS | Best Gore 721897;1402982352;mircea_popescu;ouch 721898;1402982431;BingoBoingo;It's why I'm leaning towards predicting partition. 721899;1402982481;mircea_popescu;i think iran will invade if that's on the books. 721900;1402982521;BingoBoingo;Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts. 721901;1402982536;mircea_popescu;yeah, right. 721902;1402982699;mircea_popescu;the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel. 721903;1402982705;mircea_popescu;and the kurds aren't the jews, either. 721904;1402982763;BingoBoingo;At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls... 721905;1402982813;mircea_popescu;it's a pipe dream 721906;1402982835;mircea_popescu;i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time. 721907;1402982878;BingoBoingo;Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out. 721908;1402982937;BingoBoingo;So how do we spec "i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time" for BitBet? 721909;1402982943;mircea_popescu;and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish). 721910;1402982975;mircea_popescu;this includes ~ 100k ak guns missing, about half a trillion in disappeared funds, including billions paid to known outright washington graft 721911;1402982978;BingoBoingo;No dispute there. 721912;1402982999;mircea_popescu;the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013. 721913;1402983004;BingoBoingo;I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft... 721914;1402983009;mircea_popescu;that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking. 721915;1402983036;mircea_popescu;NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today 721916;1402983044;BingoBoingo;Bush I really should have just blessed Bin Laded keeping occupied with Saddam. 721917;1402983078;mircea_popescu;o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built. 721918;1402983106;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington 721919;1402983116;mircea_popescu;however, with fuckwits a la kerry, rice or clinton... 721920;1402983187;BingoBoingo;It's still satisfying to say 9/11 was HW's fault 721921;1402983267;mircea_popescu;idont see how it'd be. 721922;1402983325;BingoBoingo;He could have Kept Bin Laden busy through the 90's like Reagan did through the 1980's 721923;1402983338;mircea_popescu;http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere. 721924;1402983361;mircea_popescu;look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60 721925;1402983380;BingoBoingo;I though that was just 6 years of knowing he sucks aged him. 721926;1402983413;mircea_popescu;maybe. 721927;1402983431;mircea_popescu;i dunno what can do that to a man, outside of smoking rocks 721928;1402983485;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy 721929;1402983495;mircea_popescu;hm 721930;1402983514;mircea_popescu;no wonder they can't get talent. 721931;1402983534;BingoBoingo;Also... who are his daughters dating... That has to age him too. 721932;1402983562;mircea_popescu;looks like erzsebet bathory's ballet troupe. "send your girl over, we'll suck her blood and leave an empty husk within five years". 721933;1402983612;BingoBoingo;It happened to W. less so to Clinton because Interns. 721934;1402983660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 634 @ 0.0008216 = 0.5209 BTC [-] 721935;1402983731;BingoBoingo;Hard to say if it aged Reagan or if he had a lucid moment after year 2. Cater was afraid of rabbits. 721936;1402984209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 12401 @ 0.00031307 = 3.8824 BTC [-] {6} 721937;1402984576;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00082105 = 7.1431 BTC [-] 721938;1402984697;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00082105 = 5.983 BTC [-] 721939;1402984835;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Un pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1199460/responsive-documents.pdf 721940;1402985045;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 721941;1402985046;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.51, Best ask: 591.62, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 592.1, 24 hour volume: 9550.98273248, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 598.225360045 721942;1402985050;BingoBoingo;%book 721943;1402985051;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 721944;1402985168;BingoBoingo;https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mxDSiwqM2nw 721945;1402985168;assbot;AAA THE F-35 IS A LEMON PIERRE SPREY (RUNAWAY FIGHTER) FIFTH ESTATE EXTENDED INTERVW - YouTube 721946;1402985223;BingoBoingo;I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq 721947;1402985917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2157505 = 0.863 BTC [+] {2} 721948;1402985978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.215001 = 9.245 BTC [-] 721949;1402986039;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2125 = 0.85 BTC [-] 721950;1402986100;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.2112 = 4.224 BTC [-] 721951;1402986283;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.2113 = 3.1695 BTC [+] 721952;1402986893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00082105 = 17.7995 BTC [-] 721953;1402987564;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20814003 = 2.0814 BTC [-] {3} 721954;1402988357;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00082362 = 3.0647 BTC [+] 721955;1402988967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 57 @ 0.06699998 = 3.819 BTC [+] {5} 721956;1402989455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2014 = 2.2154 BTC [-] 721957;1402990065;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06700125 = 5.3601 BTC [+] {2} 721958;1402990197;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: it displays really weirdly here 721959;1402990234;fluffypony;it works, but the text is all fuzzy 721960;1402990675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00082319 = 6.0965 BTC [-] 721961;1402990845;fluffypony;;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it 721962;1402990845;gribble;The operation succeeded. 721963;1402991224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00082336 = 18.9373 BTC [+] 721964;1402992993;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082121 = 27.1821 BTC [-] {2} 721965;1402993481;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082545 = 25.4239 BTC [+] 721966;1402993664;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45623 @ 0.00082049 = 37.4332 BTC [-] {2} 721967;1402994823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.0666 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {2} 721968;1402994945;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0666 = 1.8648 BTC [-] {2} 721969;1402994946;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00081995 = 19.2688 BTC [-] 721970;1402995128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06646475 = 0.6646 BTC [-] 721971;1402995799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06514736 = 1.2378 BTC [-] {3} 721972;1402995921;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.065 = 0.65 BTC [-] 721973;1402995982;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.065 = 0.845 BTC [-] {3} 721974;1402997751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06641553 = 0.6642 BTC [+] {2} 721975;1402997995;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00082309 = 9.4655 BTC [+] 721976;1402998306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500903 = 0.6501 BTC [-] {2} 721977;1402999038;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00082022 = 24.3605 BTC [-] {3} 721978;1402999709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06334622 = 1.7103 BTC [-] {3} 721979;1402999853;fluffypony;https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-031 721980;1402999855;assbot;Microsoft Security Bulletin MS14-031 - Important 721981;1402999856;fluffypony;rad. 721982;1402999934;davout;fluffypony: meh, we're basically back at the time where you could nuke ppl 721983;1402999949;fluffypony;davout: yeah, WinNuke 2014 721984;1402999953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.020001 = 2.4601 BTC [-] {2} 721985;1403000624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10982 @ 0.0008227 = 9.0349 BTC [+] 721986;1403002660;kakobrekla;http://vimeo.com/98321051 721987;1403002661;assbot;BE200 Immersion Test on Vimeo 721988;1403002688;kakobrekla;lots of bubbling. 721989;1403003613;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00081968 = 13.1968 BTC [-] 721990;1403003796;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.063301 = 0.9495 BTC [-] 721991;1403004101;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00081883 = 16.7451 BTC [-] {2} 721992;1403004479;pankkake;https://www.livebusinesschat.com/smf/index.php?topic=5629.0 721993;1403004481;assbot;Hidden message on the new sourceforge TrueCrypt site 721994;1403004833;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.063301 = 0.6963 BTC [+] 721995;1403005213;Mats_cd03;http://ottawacitizen.com/technology/internet/how-did-the-rcmp-crack-blackberrys-security 721996;1403005215;assbot;How did the RCMP crack BlackBerry’s security? | Ottawa Citizen 721997;1403005253;Mats_cd03;'3DES among the best in the world' 721998;1403005291;Mats_cd03;with 80 bits of security!!! 721999;1403005809;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31566 @ 0.00081793 = 25.8188 BTC [-] {4} 722000;1403005911;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 722001;1403005913;gribble;Current Blocks: 306303 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 128 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 17 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13307564206.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.19275 722002;1403006175;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17913 @ 0.00081789 = 14.6509 BTC [-] 722003;1403006679;moiety;hurro all 722004;1403006786;jurov;hi moiety 722005;1403007152;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00081768 = 19.2972 BTC [-] {2} 722006;1403007334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.000817 = 4.4085 BTC [-] 722007;1403007456;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44228 @ 0.0008169 = 36.1299 BTC [-] {3} 722008;1403008180;moiety;how are you jurov? i've not seen you for a wee bit (moving sucks btw) 722009;1403008261;moiety;!up Cory 722010;1403008267;moiety;!up ericmuyser 722011;1403008936;artifexd;moiety: Saw this and thought of you. http://i.imgur.com/isGXwi2.gif 722012;1403009128;moiety;artifexd: omg! thanks for linking me! thats my first manul gif... lol it's brilliant, can't stop chuckling :D 722013;1403009160;artifexd;yw 722014;1403009347;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00081904 = 17.3636 BTC [+] 722015;1403009530;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00082108 = 16.2574 BTC [+] {2} 722016;1403010323;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0008227 = 21.5547 BTC [+] 722017;1403010628;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20201 = 0.606 BTC [-] {2} 722018;1403010713;jurov;moiety i'm well, afk more often now 722019;1403010859;jurov;and still learning to manage people and other company/accounting intricacies 722020;1403010959;jurov;and becoming more lazy than ever lol :D 722021;1403011014;Apocalyptic;jurov, how many people do you manage out of curiosity ? 722022;1403011057;chetty;http://naturalsociety.com/europe-bans-american-apples/ 722023;1403011058;assbot;Europe Bans American Apples : Natural Society 722024;1403011232;jurov;it depends how you define it, maybe 2-3 722025;1403011257;jurov;they are not employers but freelancers/partners, what makes things worse 722026;1403011264;jurov;(i guess) 722027;1403011285;Apocalyptic;jurov, I see 722028;1403011316;jurov;such as, i asked a designer to improve colours of coinroll logo. he made three variants 722029;1403011339;jurov;but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay 722030;1403011350;jurov;so it ended up with this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650783.0 722031;1403011350;assbot;[POLL] Coinroll Color Scheme 722032;1403011370;jurov;and wao said, but wait, i ask my friend too 722033;1403011379;jurov;i was like arghhhhhhh 722034;1403011417;chetty;it is good tho to practice/learn management on little things 722035;1403011431;jurov;i should not have allowed such a bikeshed discussion at all 722036;1403011449;Apocalyptic;chetty, yeah, may come in handy when managing bigger projects 722037;1403011450;chetty;exactly :) important lesson 722038;1403012136;ThickAsThieves;New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU 722039;1403012137;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 722040;1403012271;asciilifeform;ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. 722041;1403012302;fluffypony;lol 722042;1403012763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 969 @ 0.0008227 = 0.7972 BTC [+] 722043;1403012824;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00082274 = 3.1519 BTC [+] 722044;1403012946;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0633 = 1.4559 BTC [+] 722045;1403014532;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00082274 = 20.7898 BTC [+] 722046;1403014532;jurov;ThickAsThieves: context? what kind of buseness was that aimed to? 722047;1403014567;mircea_popescu;fluffypony i guess. 722048;1403014625;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world' lawl. 722049;1403014642;mircea_popescu;but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ? 722050;1403014654;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00082477 = 64.9094 BTC [+] {3} 722051;1403014715;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9136 @ 0.00082294 = 7.5184 BTC [-] 722052;1403014726;mircea_popescu;jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won! 722053;1403014760;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0 722054;1403014760;assbot;DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Containers 722055;1403014839;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU <<< ahgaha what stupid retarded shit is that. 722056;1403014840;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 722057;1403014897;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them 722058;1403015031;mircea_popescu;"During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock. 722059;1403015054;pankkake;Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5. 722060;1403015067;pankkake;how many coins would that be? 722061;1403015092;mircea_popescu;"we of course can not offer any documentation to this claim, nor have we learned to gpg yet, because this is all very common of big ticker 2012 miners" 722062;1403015096;pankkake;also, why would they need to raise funds 722063;1403015133;mircea_popescu;"we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it" 722064;1403015159;mircea_popescu;"also bitcoin was under 5 in spite of us secretly doing 140% of network hash on our 6k bfl miners self-delivered early by about 17 months" 722065;1403015206;mircea_popescu;pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot. 722066;1403015243;mircea_popescu;i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal. 722067;1403015301;mircea_popescu;"The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent." 722068;1403015315;mircea_popescu;idjits ffs. 722069;1403015325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0633 = 3.3549 BTC [+] 722070;1403015722;los_pantalones;this video says "99% electicity saved - Extremely efficient cooling" 722071;1403015758;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.78602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,931. 722072;1403015775;los_pantalones;i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high 722073;1403015780;mike_c;^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price? 722074;1403015806;mike_c;;;ticker 722075;1403015808;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.38, Best ask: 599.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.12000, Last trade: 596.38, 24 hour volume: 5611.63210563, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.3, 24 hour vwap: 592.337568602 722076;1403015813;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06439287 = 1.2879 BTC [+] 722077;1403015834;chetty;Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission 722078;1403015837;los_pantalones;mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market 722079;1403015840;mircea_popescu;mike_c more or lesss stable it seems 722080;1403015851;mircea_popescu;los_pantalones you didn't see people arguing that 722081;1403015860;jurov;mike_c i don't understand the sentiment, either... rather suspect someone hopes to win the auction and is tryng to dump the price 722082;1403015862;mike_c;that would be, retarded! 722083;1403015864;los_pantalones;not here, of course 722084;1403015864;mircea_popescu;you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/ 722085;1403015865;assbot;This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 722086;1403015880;los_pantalones;hahahahah 722087;1403015890;mircea_popescu;jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition. 722088;1403015920;jurov;yes.. i got no explanation then. 722089;1403015945;mike_c;<+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable. 722090;1403015945;los_pantalones;i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins 722091;1403015948;mircea_popescu;how about you know, derps paying voluntary stupid tax (again) 722092;1403015949;pankkake;can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit 722093;1403015957;jurov;but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid 722094;1403015967;los_pantalones;and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities 722095;1403015977;mircea_popescu;pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D 722096;1403015987;los_pantalones;mircea_popescu correct 722097;1403015997;mircea_popescu;i wouldn't worry too much if i were you. 722098;1403016001;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --vol 722099;1403016002;gribble;101.04901102 722100;1403016005;mircea_popescu;it's not a sale anyway. if anything, it's good news for you. 722101;1403016011;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitstamp --vol 722102;1403016012;gribble;5602.81348519 722103;1403016032;mircea_popescu;pankkake whoa shit, they're getting close to the 100 btc cutoff ?! 722104;1403016040;pankkake;it's daily volume 722105;1403016043;mircea_popescu;ah ah 722106;1403016056;mircea_popescu;i was about to say davout got 51 problems and a horse ain't one. 722107;1403016127;mike_c;jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price. 722108;1403016158;mike_c;or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least. 722109;1403016166;mircea_popescu;close enough. 722110;1403016169;pankkake;will the prices be public? 722111;1403016169;los_pantalones;you have to submit a price on friday, find out if you win monday night 722112;1403016170;mircea_popescu;how was your father's day btw ? 722113;1403016187;los_pantalones;pankkake unclear, not much disclosed about what happens when you win 722114;1403016193;los_pantalones;sorry, if* 722115;1403016196;mike_c;mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife. 722116;1403016221;mircea_popescu;hahaha score. 722117;1403016279;mircea_popescu;in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE" 722118;1403016359;mircea_popescu;http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/HeneryHawk.gif 722119;1403016373;davout;pankkake: "it's daily volume" <<< nothing that a couple 0-fee accounts can't fix anyway 722120;1403016398;mircea_popescu;o.O 722121;1403016433;kakobrekla;o cool 722122;1403016436;*;kakobrekla clicks apply. 722123;1403016444;jurov;mircea_popescu wears pyjamas? O.o 722124;1403016461;mircea_popescu;what do you wear 722125;1403016463;jurov;better go without (unless you fear snakes) 722126;1403016471;pankkake;not even a pajama suit 722127;1403016479;mircea_popescu;pankkake no, it's a suit alright. 722128;1403016496;mircea_popescu;well it doesn't have a vest, but anyway. got pockets and everything 722129;1403016545;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7937 @ 0.0000985 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {2} 722130;1403016606;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06644663 = 0.5316 BTC [-] {2} 722131;1403016650;mircea_popescu;http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car. 722132;1403016651;assbot;I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym 722133;1403017143;jurov;http://bitcoiner.sk/2014/06/09/bitcoin-tetovania-su-v-kurze-pozrite-sa-na-pravych-fanusikov-digitalnej-meny/#.U6BXf6bTbmE omgwtf 722134;1403017143;assbot;Bitcoin tetovania s v kurze. Pozrite sa na pravch fanikov digitlnej meny. 722135;1403017179;mircea_popescu;? 722136;1403017259;jurov;sample: http://bitcoiner.sk/content/images/2014/Jun/12.jpg 722137;1403017349;jurov;she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here" 722138;1403017373;jurov;but dunno if she got crypto capable cunt 722139;1403017373;kakobrekla;its inset buttcoins in the bck 722140;1403017377;kakobrekla;insert* 722141;1403017383;kakobrekla;back 722142;1403017388;kakobrekla;fuck cmon. 722143;1403017480;jurov;asciilifeform: what about S.NSA developing btc wallet that can be implanted into dick/cunt with NFC capability? 722144;1403017545;jurov;ofc, in the butt, too (butt one will be then configured by user to ask more) 722145;1403017555;mircea_popescu;lolk 722146;1403017660;davout;jurov: are you fucking crazy? 722147;1403017667;davout;who would use nfc for a bitcoin wallet?? 722148;1403017688;pankkake;the real issue with his plan is the block size limit 722149;1403017690;chetty;hmm never actually considered getting a tattoo ....before 722150;1403017702;mircea_popescu;lmao 722151;1403017712;mircea_popescu;pankkake it has no cock size limit, you were lied to 722152;1403017715;pankkake;if it's one tx per entry 722153;1403017811;jurov;okay, not nfc. it makes more sense using actual electrodes, so physical contact is needed (and environment must be wet) 722154;1403017828;mircea_popescu;http://www.crocofetish.com/pictures/bdsm/bound-gangbangs/dp-in-submissive-slut-gangbang/11.jpg << doublespend 722155;1403017848;davout;i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration 722156;1403017878;mircea_popescu;a'cuntin' ? 722157;1403017896;pankkake;somehow I feel the last links are NSFW 722158;1403017898;mircea_popescu;http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go. 722159;1403017912;mircea_popescu;pankkake since when are you employed ?! 722160;1403017918;davout;lol 722161;1403017927;pankkake;unfortunately… 722162;1403017970;mircea_popescu;french employment. where good pr0n is only a lick away 722163;1403017972;mircea_popescu;+c 722164;1403017975;mircea_popescu;or w/e 722165;1403018017;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/multi-sig-bitcoin-wallet-provider-bitgo-raises-12-million/ 722166;1403018018;assbot;Multi-Sig Bitcoin Wallet Provider BitGo Raises $12 Million 722167;1403018022;pankkake;my last employer was NSFW friendly though 722168;1403018038;davout;every decent employer is nsfw-friendly 722169;1403018057;davout;nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office 722170;1403018057;pankkake;i.e. I was expected to send porn to my "boss" 722171;1403018066;pankkake;how so? 722172;1403018135;davout;well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session 722173;1403018172;jurov;davout, that depends :D 722174;1403018192;davout;lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target 722175;1403018224;pankkake;I am much more paranoid, gay porn is far from something I'd fear 722176;1403018248;pankkake;I always lock it + 5 min idle lock 722177;1403018275;asciilifeform;forgot to lock my console once at uni, in dorm. chums walked in, changed display background to a shot of winblows 'me' 722178;1403018318;davout;asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons 722179;1403018319;pankkake;Windows Meuh 722180;1403018330;asciilifeform;davout: that's what it was 722181;1403018345;asciilifeform;jurov: fingerprint locks -> lose yer finger; cock wallet -> lose... 722182;1403018356;jurov;if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes 722183;1403018388;davout;jurov: that would work amazingly well if coupled to a buttwallet 722184;1403018388;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 722185;1403018394;asciilifeform;rectumprint. 722186;1403018406;asciilifeform;sit on a stake scanner. 722187;1403018408;asciilifeform;no thx 722188;1403018410;pankkake;well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone 722189;1403018411;assbot;Tongue piercing helps paralysed patients drive wheelchairs | Society | theguardian.com 722190;1403018446;chetty;so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it 722191;1403018538;pankkake;even in France it's 30 years! 722192;1403018802;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00082244 = 27.6751 BTC [-] {3} 722193;1403019098;mircea_popescu; davout, that depends :D << lol 722194;1403019184;mircea_popescu; if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything 722195;1403019199;mircea_popescu;!up jediballs 722196;1403019305;chetty;http://online.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rips-through-gas-pipeline-in-central-ukraine-1403013593 722197;1403019305;assbot;Ukraine Gas Pipeline Explosion Won't Affect Supplies to Europe - WSJ 722198;1403019307;kakobrekla;lol wtf is this 722199;1403019307;kakobrekla;http://www.coindesk.com/delta-financial-offers-interest-bearing-bitcoin-accounts/ 722200;1403019308;assbot;Delta Financial Offers Interest-Bearing Bitcoin Accounts 722201;1403019331;chetty; if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it 722202;1403019370;mircea_popescu;kinda meh 722203;1403019398;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla people desperate for bitcoin capital 722204;1403019407;mircea_popescu;it will only get worse. 722205;1403019450;kakobrekla;ah i get it, the bitfinex model 722206;1403019463;kakobrekla;i thought pirate was out of jail at first 722207;1403019486;mircea_popescu;lol 722208;1403019523;mircea_popescu;on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back 722209;1403019563;mircea_popescu;increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game 722210;1403019606;mircea_popescu;(stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option") 722211;1403019634;mircea_popescu;all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served. 722212;1403019637;jurov;ftfy: "repayable at our option" 722213;1403019648;mircea_popescu;jurov that'll slowly go away. 722214;1403019660;mircea_popescu;it's cheaper to pay a few % and pretend like you've paid than to not pay at all. 722215;1403019676;mircea_popescu;the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy 722216;1403019684;jurov;afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking 722217;1403019693;mircea_popescu;but even on a market of garr and nasty fucktards, it's slowly emerging 722218;1403019711;mircea_popescu;something like that yes. 722219;1403019733;mircea_popescu;early bank paper (banknotes) stoood to gold in a very similar relation. "deposit your gold, we'll pay 5976597985%. in gold. or maybe paper" 722220;1403019740;mircea_popescu;"it's just as good" 722221;1403019875;fluffypony;lol - 4chan campaign ends up IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exc6e3TUBWk 722222;1403019876;assbot;#EndFathersDay - a Twitter Campaign to End Patriarchy & Oppression - #SingleMothersDay - YouTube 722223;1403019928;pankkake;paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy 722224;1403019933;pankkake;until, of course, well 722225;1403019954;pankkake;"they pay dividends" is the usual retort to any criticism 722226;1403019966;mircea_popescu;yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!" 722227;1403019991;mircea_popescu;but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold 722228;1403020063;chetty;http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feds-put-signs-telling-cats-stay-away/#axzz34uDAcwHz 722229;1403020063;assbot;Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic 722230;1403020087;mircea_popescu;Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business. 722231;1403020087;mircea_popescu;Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they 722232;1403020088;mircea_popescu;seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s. 722233;1403020092;mircea_popescu;The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger, 722234;1403020097;mircea_popescu;ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar 722235;1403020112;mircea_popescu;guy knew EXACTLY what was going to be going on, back in... 2009. 722236;1403020146;mircea_popescu;this is also why stomping out us influence in bitcoin is quite so critical for its survival at this juncture. 722237;1403020158;mircea_popescu;they seem to not wish to submit, so they will have to be killed, pretty much. 722238;1403020552;jurov;!up chax 722239;1403020569;jurov;!up chax 722240;1403020582;mircea_popescu;lol the voiceless! 722241;1403020589;fluffypony;http://www.coindesk.com/search-ideal-bitcoin-jurisdiction/ 722242;1403020590;assbot;In Search of the Ideal Bitcoin Jurisdiction 722243;1403020815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94523860 BTC to 9`095 shares, 21388 satoshi per share 722244;1403020827;los_pantalones;i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc 722245;1403020837;los_pantalones;they already trade with everyone in the world 722246;1403020841;los_pantalones;and get stuck with USD 722247;1403020937;los_pantalones;but "jurisdiction" seems like a pointless word 722248;1403020945;los_pantalones;for something that operates outside borders 722249;1403020998;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1161 BTC [+] 722250;1403021195;jurov;los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow? 722251;1403021214;los_pantalones;out of the country ? 722252;1403021224;los_pantalones;where you reside ? 722253;1403021243;jurov;slovankia/eu. but the VAT needs not be such a big problem as the paint it 722254;1403021250;jurov;*they 722255;1403021285;jurov;it isn't so much yet it would require offshore solution 722256;1403021669;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00081947 = 12.5379 BTC [-] 722257;1403021791;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00081861 = 10.1098 BTC [-] {2} 722258;1403022018;chetty;I dont see tax so much the issue as the bank squeeze 722259;1403022049;los_pantalones;chetty agreed 722260;1403022079;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/17/why-its-over-for-litecoin/ 722261;1403022163;davout;did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes? 722262;1403023103;mircea_popescu;nope 722263;1403023105;mircea_popescu;which were those ? 722264;1403023255;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority. 722265;1403023255;gribble;The operation succeeded. 722266;1403023302;mircea_popescu;if you say "<> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the la 722267;1403023303;mircea_popescu;ense. Affordability isnt what you think it is." 722268;1403023315;mircea_popescu;you're not helping your reader all that much. 722269;1403023342;mircea_popescu;if you say "By this logic, it is better to buy half of a pair of boots than a whole car" you are. 722270;1403023388;mircea_popescu;Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the average user. This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ? 722271;1403023405;mircea_popescu;take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole. 722272;1403023432;mircea_popescu;too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't. 722273;1403023531;davout;mircea_popescu: http://persianshoes.com/product/m126/ 722274;1403023532;assbot;M126 | Persian Shoes 722275;1403023535;davout;their shoes look rad 722276;1403023592;davout;also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes 722277;1403023624;davout;handmade shoes for 150 bucks, plus i get to transact with iran 722278;1403023674;mircea_popescu;i dont see what's so special about them but anyway 722279;1403023699;davout;i desire them, that's what's special 722280;1403023708;mircea_popescu;aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway 722281;1403023720;mircea_popescu;i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol 722282;1403023876;jurov;terrorist shoes!!1 722283;1403023922;jurov;!up adrrr 722284;1403024024;jurov;http://i.imgur.com/IZkEbgI.jpg 722285;1403024036;jurov;sfw 722286;1403024350;mircea_popescu;!up edlund10 722287;1403024365;edlund10;thanks 722288;1403024387;edlund10;http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ 722289;1403024387;assbot;BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 7 hours | weight: 78`609 (100`000 to 1) 722290;1403024402;edlund10;this bet should be already resolved as yes :) 722291;1403024437;mircea_popescu;leave a comment there then 722292;1403024452;edlund10;i left it, but wasn't sure if it's enough 722293;1403024643;mircea_popescu;!up Dimsler 722294;1403024649;Dimsler;https://i.imgur.com/cG07rQU.jpg 722295;1403024650;Dimsler;lol 722296;1403024652;Dimsler;btc 722297;1403024684;Dimsler;i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs 722298;1403024722;mircea_popescu;i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit 722299;1403024725;mircea_popescu;!down Dimsler 722300;1403024744;jurov;Dimsler,last i heard BingoBoingo arranges one with FARC 722301;1403024857;adrrr;bitbet odds are so ugly 722302;1403024935;mircea_popescu;how so 722303;1403025025;kakobrekla;adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind 722304;1403025029;fluffypony;;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg 722305;1403025029;gribble;The operation succeeded. 722306;1403025051;fluffypony;kakobrekla: I thought it was the same design committee that did the UI design for apex? 722307;1403025055;fluffypony;s/apex/mpex 722308;1403025080;adrrr;kakobrekla: I didn't talk about the design, but the number 722309;1403025121;kakobrekla;fluffypony there is some intersection for sure. 722310;1403025139;kakobrekla;adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller? 722311;1403025144;kakobrekla;i can fix it in the css. 722312;1403025187;jurov;.odds: {font-family: comic-sans;} 722313;1403025195;adrrr;no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D 722314;1403025230;kakobrekla;well 722315;1403025241;kakobrekla;is bigger one bigger than smaller one or no 722316;1403025297;jurov;adrr for example this for example had very good odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ 722317;1403025297;assbot;BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 6 hours | weight: 78`570 (100`000 to 1) 722318;1403025305;jurov;so what is the problem? 722319;1403025305;kakobrekla;i guess it depends if its == or ===. 722320;1403025336;pankkake;just do == || === to be sure 722321;1403025340;pankkake;unless you want == && === 722322;1403025360;benkay; adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC 722323;1403025361;kakobrekla;i usually use the shorthand ==(=) 722324;1403025374;mircea_popescu;lol 722325;1403025381;jurov;kakobrekla usually uses 100-second minutes 722326;1403025419;kakobrekla;did you know a day is two nights long 722327;1403025419;benkay;or .1...but it doesn't matter, you know? 722328;1403025423;adrrr;anyway this is a good website 722329;1403025447;benkay;make sure your odds are ======== reality before betting 722330;1403025460;adrrr;yeah that's it 722331;1403025470;pankkake;adrrr: yes. I use it more for fun than profit. or at least that's what I tell myself :D 722332;1403025475;benkay;and your fees are ======= 0 722333;1403025487;pankkake;0 rounded up 722334;1403025498;benkay;yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers 722335;1403025585;adrrr;sport bet website in bitcoins have bigger number than sport bet normal website. I think this is a good thing for bitcoin cause a lot of gamblers will realize that 722336;1403025613;benkay;bigger numbers are definitely best numbers 722337;1403025624;pankkake;no, not bigger. just more numbers 722338;1403025643;pankkake;adrrr: you might like http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/bitbet-affiliate-ad/ 722339;1403025643;assbot;BitBet Affiliate Ad - Btc Alpha 722340;1403025645;adrrr;lol I don't understand you, can we say better odds? 722341;1403025739;kakobrekla;would a smaller or bigger font be better ? 722342;1403025764;pankkake;!up adrrr 722343;1403025765;adrrr;that's not a problem of font 722344;1403025786;adrrr;you're kidding me 722345;1403025786;kakobrekla;but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :( 722346;1403025793;jurov;adrrr please say cmplete informatin or example - where do you get better odds? 722347;1403025824;jurov;if you don't qualify you easily become butt of jokes 722348;1403025826;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.25 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.13602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,558. 722349;1403025909;adrrr;For example on this bet : 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No 722350;1403025919;adrrr;When I see that I just don't wanna bet 722351;1403025937;davout;adrrr: that's because it's pari mutuel 722352;1403025937;adrrr;I'm gonna try to find an example with goods odds 722353;1403025947;davout;the way people bet is the way odds are defined 722354;1403025969;adrrr;oh so I'm a noob lol I didn't saw that 722355;1403026000;adrrr;It's a good idea ! 722356;1403026003;adrrr;lol 722357;1403026032;mircea_popescu;lolk 722358;1403026063;kakobrekla;so we are not changing the css? 722359;1403026068;adrrr;ahaha 722360;1403026093;adrrr;everything is fine kakobrekla 722361;1403026099;kakobrekla;kk! 722362;1403026100;mircea_popescu;better change it just to be sure (tm) 722363;1403026102;adrrr;I'll tell you what to do next ;) 722364;1403026229;fluffypony;kakobrekla: needs more jQuery 722365;1403026237;fluffypony;and webfonts 722366;1403026261;adrrr;and responsive design ! 722367;1403026267;fluffypony;yes 722368;1403026271;fluffypony;and PDF reports 722369;1403026280;pankkake;responsive is actually a good thing 722370;1403026292;pankkake;I like to have a narrow browser window and some websites really suck at it 722371;1403026315;pankkake;I hope you do your math with jquery http://r3dux.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NotEnoughjQuery.jpg 722372;1403026375;benkay;you mean the dollar? 722373;1403026382;benkay;i do all of my ui with the htmldollar 722374;1403026404;adrrr;the picture is a joke 722375;1403026505;fluffypony;adrrr: it's serious business 722376;1403026531;adrrr;no it was just to explain to benkay that this is a joke 722377;1403026539;adrrr;(the picture) 722378;1403026738;Mats_cd03;whoevers behind Unicode 7.0 is challenged 722379;1403026780;Mats_cd03;new emoji, read like " cloud with tornado. snow capped mountain. white sun behind cloud." 722380;1403026818;Mats_cd03;http://emojipedia.org/new-emoji/ 722381;1403026890;jurov;Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp 722382;1403026890;assbot;Vulcan Salute, Middle Finger Among 250 New Emojis | News & Opinion | PCMag.com 722383;1403026915;jurov;"the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters" 722384;1403026939;Mats_cd03;lol what 722385;1403027170;fluffypony;;;ud figjam 722386;1403027171;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figjam | Also a song, "FIGJAM (Fuck I'm Good Just Ask Me)" by Butterfingers, an Australian band. Bob: "Ahhh, finished tiling that roof at last..." Alan: "Yeah, FIGJAM!". 722387;1403027404;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00082518 = 18.8141 BTC [+] 722388;1403027632;kakobrekla;!up adrrr 722389;1403027639;kakobrekla;ah he gone. 722390;1403027654;kakobrekla;i was just about to say something. 722391;1403027692;kakobrekla;o wait 722392;1403027770;kakobrekla;!up adrrr 722393;1403027790;kakobrekla;get yourself in the wont if you want to talk 722394;1403027797;kakobrekla;or wot 722395;1403027801;adrrr;yep i'm in 722396;1403027810;adrrr;i was just not logged in 722397;1403027823;kakobrekla;;;gettrust assbot adrrr 722398;1403027830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35752 @ 0.0008247 = 29.4847 BTC [-] {2} 722399;1403027830;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask adrrr!~adrrr@APuteaux-652-1-213-139.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adrrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adrrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adrrr | Rated since: Thu May 22 05:23:03 2014 722400;1403027842;kakobrekla;a ok 722401;1403027896;FabianB;$vwap s.mpoe 722402;1403027896;empyex;FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082071 high: 0.0008265 low: 0.00081569 volume: 1300456 btc: 1067.29102587 7 day: average: 0.00082605 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6563631 btc: 5421.87815351 30 day: average: 0.00087011 high: 0.00094991 low: 0.00079351 volume: 26687590 btc: 23221.15595391 722403;1403027915;FabianB;$vwap s.bbet 722404;1403027916;empyex;FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 7 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 30 day: average: 0.00048526 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 8347 btc: 4.050485 722405;1403027971;kakobrekla;4 btc, almost record volume 722406;1403028101;jurov;$vwap f.mpif 722407;1403028102;empyex;jurov: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00021705 high: 0.00021726 low: 0.00021536 volume: 95749 btc: 20.78211468 722408;1403028113;jurov;:( 722409;1403028199;jurov;okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose 722410;1403028229;jurov;*30day price, i mean 722411;1403028231;FabianB;curious about the next bbet statement 722412;1403028379;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00081952 = 44.2131 BTC [-] {2} 722413;1403028512;FabianB;all worldcup bets should be resolved this period 722414;1403028718;mike_c;vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale 722415;1403028806;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0699 = 0.699 BTC [+] 722416;1403028867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2} 722417;1403029051;FabianB;$traded 722418;1403029052;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR 722419;1403029533;adrrr;mpex.co need a good redesign ^^ 722420;1403029600;kakobrekla;iirc black version existed? 722421;1403029628;FabianB;still does 722422;1403029645;FabianB;http://mpex.co/?r=1 722423;1403029646;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 722424;1403029657;pankkake;uglier than I remember 722425;1403029776;kakobrekla;dunno why but the thing reminds me of http://gli.tc/h/2112/ 722426;1403029777;assbot;GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ 722427;1403029813;pankkake;well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration) 722428;1403029831;kakobrekla;lots of fun css files in the dropdown 722429;1403029834;mike_c;ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast. 722430;1403029840;kakobrekla;something like dat should be made for mpex 722431;1403029858;kakobrekla;for anyone that complains. 722432;1403029943;kakobrekla;example http://gli.tc/h/2112/index.php?css=8linkli_mrgnhgbyflwrs.css 722433;1403029943;assbot;GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ 722434;1403030503;jurov;http://live.coinbr.com/images/mpex-sans-fs8.png totally rocks 722435;1403030567;fluffypony;yeah agreed jurov 722436;1403030569;fluffypony;that should be the default 722437;1403030597;FabianB;[√] empyex commands documented ( http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots ) 722438;1403030597;assbot;irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki] 722439;1403030628;jurov;body { background: pink; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; } 722440;1403030708;pankkake;$proxies 722441;1403030708;empyex;pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ 722442;1403030712;assbot;MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. 722443;1403030736;pankkake;$mpexlag 722444;1403030736;empyex;pankkake: 145 milliseconds 722445;1403030743;pankkake;$unconfirmed 722446;1403030744;empyex;pankkake: 1794 722447;1403030768;pankkake;$avg 722448;1403030769;empyex;pankkake: 597.67 722449;1403031004;FabianB;jurov: mpex.coinbr.com down? 722450;1403031027;jurov;looks so 722451;1403031186;jurov;lol spot instances for $10/hr? someone gonna cry 722452;1403031302;pankkake;;;buy 1 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/ 722453;1403031304;assbot;ThinkGeek :: Firefly Inevitable Betrayal Dinosaurs with Sound 722454;1403031304;gribble;Error: 'dinos' is not a valid price input. 722455;1403031337;FabianB;jurov: for coinbr? 722456;1403031350;pankkake;;;view 20769 722457;1403031352;gribble;#20769 Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) 722458;1403031370;jurov;no,for the proxy... that's why it is down 722459;1403031442;FabianB;jurov: should i remove it from the list of proxies for now? 722460;1403031471;jurov;no, i'll relauch it elsewhere in a moment 722461;1403031498;FabianB;k 722462;1403031632;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/06/17/turkish_media_ban_media_in_turkey_stopped_from_covering_isis_abductions.html 722463;1403031633;assbot;Turkish media ban: Media in Turkey stopped from covering ISIS abductions. 722464;1403031795;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00082518 = 13.9455 BTC [+] 722465;1403031929;thestringpuller;$book 722466;1403031931;thestringpuller;oops 722467;1403031936;thestringpuller;$depth MPOE 722468;1403031936;empyex;thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SFsBrGeQ 722469;1403031940;thestringpuller;grr 722470;1403031944;thestringpuller;$ticker MPOE 722471;1403031951;thestringpuller;$help 722472;1403031951;empyex;thestringpuller: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth ' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post ' '$proxies' '$traded' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap ' 722473;1403031961;thestringpuller;$moo 722474;1403031961;empyex;thestringpuller: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here. 722475;1403032021;mod6;did that one just replace pympex? 722476;1403032032;mod6;err mpexbot? 722477;1403032222;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082554 = 21.464 BTC [+] {2} 722478;1403032593;jurov;mod6 no, just supplements it 722479;1403032690;FabianB;mod6: mpexbot yes 722480;1403032714;mod6;ahh. 722481;1403032747;FabianB;thestringpuller: the mpsic is S.MPOE 722482;1403032760;FabianB;$depth s.mpoe 722483;1403032760;empyex;FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 12750 @ 0.00082518 23135 @ 0.00082292 12291 @ 0.00082269 27100 @ 0.00081885 722484;1403032761;empyex;FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 3185 @ 0.00082558 14052 @ 0.00082650 40100 @ 0.00082715 31438 @ 0.00082725 722485;1403032832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00082356 = 34.9189 BTC [-] {3} 722486;1403033045;FabianB;hmm.. thinking if i should let empyex tell thestringpuller to get the mpsics right instead of letting it default to raw depth 722487;1403033080;pankkake;it should kick you everytime you make an error 722488;1403033162;FabianB;lol 722489;1403033192;FabianB;i guess that would be more assbot's style 722490;1403033207;jurov;it should do bait 722491;1403034006;[]bot;Bet created: "Petamine at over .08 per share before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/946/ 722492;1403034354;[]bot;Bet created: "World Cup 2014: At least one red card issued during the final" http://bitbet.us/bet/947/ 722493;1403034723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.0008245 = 24.716 BTC [+] {2} 722494;1403034769;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 722495;1403034770;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.3, Best ask: 597.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 595.85, 24 hour volume: 4787.75305818, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 592.934258693 722496;1403034784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.0008265 = 11.614 BTC [+] 722497;1403034950;BingoBoingo;%book 722498;1403034951;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 722499;1403035392;[]bot;Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Brazil to win" http://bitbet.us/bet/948/ 722500;1403036240;bitcoinpete;;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks for the tips! i made a few amendments at those points. 722501;1403036241;gribble;The operation succeeded. 722502;1403036280;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/gym-bags-full-of-cash-is-a-great-metaphor-for-celebrity-1591996703/+laceydonohue 722503;1403036280;assbot;Gym Bags Full of Cash Is a Great Metaphor for Celebrity Tech Investing 722504;1403036675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20000004 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} 722505;1403036736;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4078 @ 0.00082654 = 3.3706 BTC [+] 722506;1403041433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000827 = 4.8793 BTC [+] 722507;1403043141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00082654 = 2.0606 BTC [-] 722508;1403044289;benkay;!up gabriel_laddel 722509;1403044291;kakobrekla;gl benkay 722510;1403044310;kakobrekla;!up gabriel_laddel 722511;1403044312;kakobrekla;ha 722512;1403044322;kakobrekla;how many asseters does it take to up gabriel_laddel 722513;1403044324;benkay;what is even state 722514;1403044333;gabriel_laddel;monads 722515;1403044358;*;kakobrekla gets off the fail train 722516;1403044622;jurov;http://animals.io9.com/why-are-these-bears-having-oral-sex-1590980883 722517;1403044623;assbot;Why Are These Bears Having Oral Sex? 722518;1403044700;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.0008254 = 24.8033 BTC [-] {2} 722519;1403045481;mircea_popescu;o hey nice find 722520;1403045535;mircea_popescu;so only mammals that like fruits are cocksuckers ? 722521;1403045744;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 722522;1403045747;gribble;Time since last block: 13 minutes and 47 seconds 722523;1403045836;mircea_popescu;lol all the mpex css modders! 722524;1403045918;mircea_popescu;jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait. 722525;1403045923;mircea_popescu;want a list of tumblrs ? 722526;1403045962;jurov;FabianB: ^ 722527;1403045981;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.201 = 0.603 BTC [-] 722528;1403046047;mircea_popescu;so i took fluffypony's advice and hired a coupla dozen fiverr kids. since pretty much the only thing they seem to be able to do that's useful is put up/distribute flyers on their campus, im having a coupla dozen do that 722529;1403046060;mircea_popescu;curious what exactly comes out of this 722530;1403046067;BingoBoingo;Nice, what campuses are these? 722531;1403046091;mircea_popescu;i dunno, mostly us 722532;1403046113;BingoBoingo;Ah, just wondering if I might stumble into any this week 722533;1403046208;BingoBoingo;%ticker 722534;1403046211;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 3k High: 180 Low: 150 VWAP: 153 722535;1403046246;Naphex;"Andreas Antonopolous delivers a stunning presentation of crypto currency to a virtual room full of knowledge seeking students." 722536;1403046267;Naphex;who writes these titles o.o 722537;1403046279;BingoBoingo;%book 722538;1403046280;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 722539;1403046348;jurov;;;ticker 722540;1403046349;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.98, Best ask: 607.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 607.49, 24 hour volume: 6175.46701712, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.703307988 722541;1403046391;mircea_popescu;o look who's back 722542;1403046414;Naphex;i got back a while ago, but mostly just sitting and idling 722543;1403046430;jurov;!up dR3buttnix 722544;1403046433;mircea_popescu;makes two of us lol 722545;1403046434;Naphex;trying to lax a bit before getting multicurrency live 722546;1403046459;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i vaguely remember chicago something or the other. 722547;1403046515;BingoBoingo;I'm not headed that far north soon, but I'll keep a look out. 722548;1403046713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082545 = 3.3843 BTC [+] 722549;1403046859;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitcoin-upward-trend-a-prediction-for-legs-4-5/ 722550;1403047280;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/litecoins-swan-song/ 722551;1403047616;asciilifeform;i get up for one day into meatspace, and back - and now 'rentacoder' is back from the dead?! or what is that 'fiver' thing 722552;1403047684;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform rentabonger. 722553;1403047697;asciilifeform;;;ud bonger 722554;1403047698;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonger | Upload a picture of bonger. 2. bongers. greatest last name granted to a person. Usually resides in a man cave, playing madden. Very fun name to say. Ladies ... 722555;1403047737;TheNewDeal;bc,stats 722556;1403047754;mike_c;mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what? 722557;1403047816;mircea_popescu;mike_c i'd show you but i'm ashamed 722558;1403047817;mircea_popescu;it's a pdf 722559;1403047854;asciilifeform;shame or not, there still exists no universal replacement for pdf (unless you count postscript) 722560;1403047856;mike_c;ooh, now I'm the curious one. 722561;1403047871;mike_c;it's for your band isn't it? 722562;1403047896;mircea_popescu;mnope 722563;1403047910;mircea_popescu;ok ok here we go : 722564;1403047931;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyer.pdf 722565;1403047951;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you don't count post script, because you're dealing with random college kids. 722566;1403048039;mike_c;hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect. 722567;1403048051;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: your students hablan ingls ? 722568;1403048064;TheNewDeal;los estudiantes 722569;1403048070;mircea_popescu;mike_c buy some kids a beer. what effect do you expect ? 722570;1403048079;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform which you mean ? 722571;1403048085;asciilifeform;the locals 722572;1403048089;mircea_popescu;it's fiverr not cinqueeee 722573;1403048092;asciilifeform;(presumably meatspace flyer ?) 722574;1403048098;asciilifeform;aha 722575;1403048169;mike_c;well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it 722576;1403048225;mike_c;i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works. 722577;1403048240;mthreat;pearl necklaces hah 722578;1403048267;mircea_popescu;mike_c in general i find us kids can be more or less trusted to go through the motions / respect the formal parts of the spec 722579;1403048284;TheNewDeal;Bitcoins foremost educational resource 722580;1403048285;TheNewDeal;love it 722581;1403048286;mircea_popescu;they don't usually do anything useful, but it's never for lack of pretending like they tried. 722582;1403048303;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal i had something similar in romanian a few years ago 722583;1403048314;mircea_popescu;it drove people NUTS 722584;1403048321;TheNewDeal;hahaha 722585;1403048351;mircea_popescu;they'd have like beer parties dedicated to discussing just how fucking just not done such deeds are. 722586;1403048397;TheNewDeal;like Nikola Tesla nuts or Timothy McVeigh nuts? 722587;1403048420;mircea_popescu;like angry german kid nuts 722588;1403048422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [-] 722589;1403048426;mircea_popescu;or w/e, reddit nuts 722590;1403048433;TheNewDeal;ewww 722591;1403048518;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 722592;1403048519;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 603.31, Best ask: 606.71, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 604.58, 24 hour volume: 6255.76911036, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.9930859 722593;1403048557;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 722594;1403048557;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.86463072 BTC; -0.23519938 BTC (-0.1375%) since last check 1d 2h 59m 48s ago. 722595;1403048566;BingoBoingo;Needs moar klye 722596;1403048576;mircea_popescu;totally. 722597;1403049023;Mats_cd03;i can't tell if you're trying to bait college feminists into marketing trilema 722598;1403049032;Mats_cd03;or just being yourself. 722599;1403049172;TheNewDeal;what if he is accomplishing both at the same time 722600;1403049188;TheNewDeal;insert Neo meme 722601;1403050069;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00082407 = 6.1393 BTC [-] 722602;1403050191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00082407 = 20.0249 BTC [-] 722603;1403050509;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 right ? 722604;1403050633;mircea_popescu;btw moiety_ http://trilema.com/2011/pisicute/ 722605;1403050635;assbot;Pisicute pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 722606;1403051040;moiety_;mircea_popescu: they are so tiny! so cute, but they need some biscuits 722607;1403051083;moiety_;are they yours? 722608;1403051099;moiety_;googles not translating well for me D; 722609;1403051117;moiety_;perhaps mine are just fat cats 722610;1403051290;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06700542 = 0.7371 BTC [+] {2} 722611;1403051377;moiety;ffs freenode 722612;1403051472;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27366 @ 0.00082545 = 22.5893 BTC [+] 722613;1403051512;Mats_cd03;for future reference, the no poo pills i was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loperamide 722614;1403051512;assbot;Loperamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 722615;1403051547;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: interesting case of the kind of thinking that gave us, e.g. DXM 722616;1403051583;Mats_cd03;i may have used it a few times to punish a thief in the office 722617;1403051597;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: 'let's take a drug that's been known for 5,000 years, but is too much fun; nip at the structure a bit until we have a - anti-diarrheal, cough suppressant, etc. that's almost as good as opium.' 722618;1403051622;Mats_cd03;thats p much how rx research works no? 722619;1403051639;Mats_cd03;brute force all of the things. see what works, rinse, repeat. 722620;1403051641;asciilifeform;Mats_cd03: not necessarily - where in nature do you find, e.g. ssri 722621;1403051650;asciilifeform;talking about the goal, vs. the process 722622;1403051656;Mats_cd03;o 722623;1403051665;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: SSRI came from... Benadryl! 722624;1403051671;asciilifeform;sure. 722625;1403051691;asciilifeform;dxm, loperamide, etc. solve what might be called 'fiat problems' 722626;1403051711;Mats_cd03;after 1 no pill a day for 4 days during a field exercise, i was literally full of shit 722627;1403051722;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/ 722628;1403051731;Mats_cd03;i used a scale...my poop was 4.6 pounds 722629;1403051736;asciilifeform;in both examples, ordinary opium is the champ 722630;1403051804;asciilifeform;interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up 722631;1403051851;asciilifeform;1) pick a problem 2) ban solution 3) ??? 4) profit! 722632;1403052037;asciilifeform;this is why the 'optimize for patentability' process is an inevitable crock of shit. when the scamz0rs can't enclose the commons - they torch them. 722633;1403052049;moiety;is it just me or does the trilema header change more frequently these days? 722634;1403052199;mike_c;the latter. 722635;1403052244;mike_c;Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. 722636;1403052255;moiety;thanks mike_c 722637;1403052265;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00082545 = 7.7105 BTC [+] 722638;1403052326;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4159 @ 0.00082669 = 3.4382 BTC [+] 722639;1403052385;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: They founf a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor in Bupropion. Note the substitution that was made... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion 722640;1403052385;assbot;Bupropion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 722641;1403052401;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: so weak as to be almost useless. 722642;1403052405;BingoBoingo;(The interesting part is the picture... check the ring) 722643;1403052420;asciilifeform;which is the way usg likes it. 722644;1403052432;Mats_cd03;mike_c: har har 722645;1403052439;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Not useless, just... dangerous in actually useful amounts. 722646;1403052469;asciilifeform;~= useless. 722647;1403052599;moiety;i get the kitten post now. good work mircea_popescu lol you need to source some ar ones. 722648;1403052668;asciilifeform;btc folks who expect to 'can have problems' from daring to demonetize the dollar should contemplate gedankenexperiment - what'd happen to a nation that 'demonetizes'... cocaine. (that is, establishes dirt-cheap production & distribution.) if your starfish doesn't quiver at the thought of the 'problems you can have' then... 722649;1403052697;moiety;bupropion is given rarely here as an antidepressant but more as an anti smoking thing, as its not licensed in the same was as in the us 722650;1403052705;moiety;way* 722651;1403052714;asciilifeform;learn how alchemists were treated back when influential folks thought that alchemy might work 722652;1403052912;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: the basic idea behind the 'antidepressant' market is at least as mistaken as the phlogiston theory. so what kind of result can be expected. 722653;1403052966;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Of course, well at least it has been since MOAIs fell to the wayside. 722654;1403053026;BingoBoingo;;;google new nardil sucks 722655;1403053027;gribble;Old Nardil Vs. New Nardil - Emsam and other MAOIs - Crazy Talk ...: ; Nardil and Dry Mouth - Depression: ; Drug Ratings for NARDIL - Ask a Patient: (1 more message) 722656;1403053042;BingoBoingo;Seems drugs can have problems too 722657;1403053074;BingoBoingo;moiety: Here Bupropion is used frequently when people discover aspects of the SSRI side effect profile. 722658;1403053084;asciilifeform;e.g. impotence 722659;1403053125;BingoBoingo;impotence, inability to orgasm,... the full set is rather large 722660;1403053158;asciilifeform;the basic formula of antidepressant market: 1) http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#722631 2) side effects are a gift from the gods: 10 side effects - 10 kinds of pill you can now sell. 722661;1403053159;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 722662;1403053193;asciilifeform;i've met folks taking 5+ psych meds, mostly against... each other 722663;1403053273;mircea_popescu;moiety those were babies 722664;1403053278;BingoBoingo;It's usually how things work 722665;1403053285;*;asciilifeform notes similarity to the software 'industry' 722666;1403053309;moiety;i had a patient that was on so many conflicting medications his liver was shutting down. every time i saw him, he was thinner and felt worse and they just wouldn't do anything. i'm worried what happened to him since i left 722667;1403053328;BingoBoingo;The only significant problem with MAOIs was they prevented selling the patient other drugs... at least drugs that aren't amphetamines 722668;1403053352;mircea_popescu; Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. << freezer bags ftw 722669;1403053364;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TGGQA7.txt ) 722670;1403053364;BingoBoingo;!b 1 722671;1403053404;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform << i don't see it. columbia. 722672;1403053427;Mats_cd03;dafuq am i going to do with freezer bags 722673;1403053438;asciilifeform;columbia << not a military giant who can make the 'demonetization' stick globally. 722674;1403053449;asciilifeform;a la brits/opium/19th-c. 722675;1403053473;moiety;they have started bowel screening here for the 50+. you get cardboard sticks and instructions to shit on your bagged hand and smear it on a chart with said sticks, which you do over the course of X days and send it off to the GP 722676;1403053477;moiety;poor postmen 722677;1403053539;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform well now that all depends. 722678;1403053543;mircea_popescu;you can buy cocaine can't you ? 722679;1403053551;asciilifeform;cocaine demonetization is, of course, gedankenexperiment. nobody interesting is particularly well-positioned to benefit from it, and so it won't happen - just as cardboard full-height replica of eiffel's tower won't happen. 722680;1403053563;moiety;Mats_cd03: use it like a mit lol 722681;1403053652;mircea_popescu;fun fact : psychiatrists with child practices occasionally get to see cases of prepubescent kids that anally masturbate with their shit and end up with serious constipation issues 722682;1403053654;mircea_popescu;apparently it's a thing 722683;1403053659;mircea_popescu;(documented for centuries etc) 722684;1403053666;asciilifeform;herr doktor freud 722685;1403053713;Mats_cd03;wat 722686;1403053729;Mats_cd03;for fucks sake 722687;1403053759;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 welcome to -assets, where you broaden 722688;1403053762;mircea_popescu;your horizonts. 722689;1403053863;asciilifeform;(coke is no more difficult to churn out by the gigaton than, e.g. progesterone. do you see it at local pharmacist for a penny a dose? didn't think so. because it is a kind of chemical / international fiat currency. with all of the features that come with such.) 722690;1403053912;mircea_popescu;notrly. sugar is a better comparison 722691;1403053923;mircea_popescu;coke is an agro product. and for that matter, quite similar to sugar 722692;1403053937;mircea_popescu;so your gedanken experiment could well be carried out in a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal. 722693;1403053961;mircea_popescu;http://www.imperialsugar.com/vintage-imperial-sugar/vintage-commercials 722694;1403053962;assbot;Vintage Commercials | Imperial Sugar 722695;1403053963;asciilifeform;could easily become the same kind of 'agro product' as... insulin. 722696;1403053977;asciilifeform;(bacterium is energetically-cheaper than plowing fields) 722697;1403053983;mircea_popescu;i wonder. 722698;1403053993;mircea_popescu;if this were true coke market in the us would be like meth market 722699;1403053996;mircea_popescu;it's not. 722700;1403054014;asciilifeform;genetically diddling e-coli is tricky. 722701;1403054032;TheNewDeal;wait are we talking about Coke or coke 722702;1403054035;asciilifeform;c 722703;1403054086;TheNewDeal;I was going to say, Coke is verrry similar to sugar 722704;1403054102;TheNewDeal;still won't see it for 1 cent at your local whatnot 722705;1403054138;mircea_popescu;actually coke is very similar to fructose 722706;1403054152;asciilifeform;coke market in the us would be like meth market << nope. bioreactor (aside from somebody having to jump the hurdle and produce the transgenic critter in the first place) is a considerably more cerebral undertaking than grignard reaction in a garage. 722707;1403054170;TheNewDeal;fructose is sugar 722708;1403054187;TheNewDeal;subset 722709;1403054261;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you say this on the basis of what. 722710;1403054271;asciilifeform;a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal... an agro product << point of the second (e. coli) gedankenexperiment isn't that the planet needs a gigaton of coke (perhaps it does, but i digress) but would be to profit maximally off the 'demonetization.' 722711;1403054273;mircea_popescu;people microbrew, god love them. 722712;1403054275;asciilifeform;which 'this' ? 722713;1403054289;mircea_popescu;"is a considerably more cerebral" 722714;1403054299;asciilifeform;aha 722715;1403054333;*;asciilifeform was involved in a (failed) project to churn out butyrylcholinesterase via transgenics. 722716;1403054379;mircea_popescu;ya but i mean... 722717;1403054395;mircea_popescu;before every hick set his garage on fire trying to make meth 722718;1403054404;mircea_popescu;people thought organic synthesis is a cerebral endeavour 722719;1403054410;mircea_popescu;now they have a reality show abvout it 722720;1403054432;asciilifeform;it is again - when the one-step precursors are unavailable 722721;1403054449;asciilifeform;(the hicks don't start with a bag of carbon, a bottle of water...) 722722;1403054455;TheNewDeal;or you just have to know people that steal a gigaton of the precursor? 722723;1403054485;asciilifeform;in this scenario, the 'cerebral' work was done for you - by the folks who built the plant which churns out pseudoephedrine by the gigaton 722724;1403054522;mircea_popescu;"Current meds: lamotrigine 300mg, topiramate 325mg, buspirone 60mg, protriptyline 60mg, EPA 600mg, methylphenidate 5-10mg, lorazepam 1mg PRN 722725;1403054522;mircea_popescu;Past meds (likely incomplete): Abilify, clonazepam, desipramine, diazepam, Gabitril, lithium, Neurontin, Paxil, prochlorperazine, Provigil, Prozac, Risperdal, Seroquel, Serzone, Strattera, Trileptal, Zyprexa" 722726;1403054531;mircea_popescu;poor livers. 722727;1403054541;asciilifeform;poor cns. 722728;1403054553;TheNewDeal;who has this list? 722729;1403054557;mircea_popescu;what cns ? 722730;1403054563;TheNewDeal;central nervous system 722731;1403054564;asciilifeform;central nervous 722732;1403054596;mircea_popescu;http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy 722733;1403054597;assbot;Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection 722734;1403054613;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i know dude. the idea is there's no such thing in there 722735;1403054657;asciilifeform;lol 722736;1403054765;asciilifeform;if before dr. mengele got to him - there was - certainly not after. 722737;1403054792;TheNewDeal;I like this guy alreadh 722738;1403054813;asciilifeform;(likely that, in the future, folks will view today's medical profession in much the same light we see herr mengele) 722739;1403054857;TheNewDeal;many currently do 722740;1403054858;mircea_popescu;medical profession maybe not, but the "mental health" "professionals" definitely. 722741;1403054888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00082498 = 9.6523 BTC [-] 722742;1403054902;asciilifeform;by and large, they 'are only following orders' - as described by, e.g. TLP. but still. 722743;1403054938;TheNewDeal;tlp? 722744;1403054946;asciilifeform;;;google the last psychiatrist 722745;1403054947;gribble;The Last Psychiatrist: ; The Last Psychiatrist Archives: ; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?: 722746;1403054983;TheNewDeal;gribble quit it with the ">;" crap 722747;1403055068;nubbins`;can't leave a dangling < 722748;1403055103;BingoBoingo;http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy << His pre-CNS collapse occupation if you read deep enough, Big Iron Programmer. 722749;1403055104;assbot;Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection 722750;1403055183;nubbins`;makes sense 722751;1403055212;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform people hung for just following orders at nurnberg 722752;1403055227;mircea_popescu;one day people will hang for just following orders in what once was washington, dc, too. 722753;1403055227;asciilifeform;aye. 722754;1403055231;nubbins`;more for following the wrong ones 722755;1403055236;mircea_popescu;exactly. 722756;1403055263;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that's right. 722757;1403055265;nubbins`;which is why one should avoid being placed in situations where one can be easily ordered 722758;1403055267;mircea_popescu;just like turing. 722759;1403055280;mircea_popescu;nubbins` naive copout that. you're always ordered. 722760;1403055287;mircea_popescu;the only solution is to pick a good sovereign and stick to it. 722761;1403055300;nubbins`;or rather, where the enforcing of said ordering is a common occurrence 722762;1403055321;asciilifeform;'you commit atrocities with the sovereign you have, not the sovereign you wish you had.' (apologies to mr bush) 722763;1403055346;nubbins`;unfortunately, picking a good sovereign likely requires you to pass through the hands of the worst sovereign of them all (int'l border control) 722764;1403055412;mircea_popescu;maybe 722765;1403055434;asciilifeform;good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal 722766;1403055534;mircea_popescu;;;google "is a source of immense satisfaction to me" 722767;1403055535;gribble;Use immense in a sentence | immense sentence examples: ; It gives me immense pleasure to inform all the members and ...: ; Immense | Define Immense at Dictionary.com: 722768;1403055558;mircea_popescu;check it out, google has managed to erase history. the only winner of nurenberg doesn't exist in the brave new world. 722769;1403055571;asciilifeform;lol 722770;1403055582;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, are you ordered too ? 722771;1403055594;mircea_popescu;no, i'm an asshole. 722772;1403055692;mircea_popescu; good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal << this reduces to saying there's nothing to live for. 722773;1403055706;asciilifeform;some of us live for the unicorn hunt. 722774;1403055719;nubbins`;the meat is so tasty 722775;1403055731;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Okapi2.jpg 722776;1403055744;asciilifeform;even should it be necessary to genetically diddle goats to obtain said beast 722777;1403055751;nubbins`;i've seen one of those in person 722778;1403055754;nubbins`;in uh 722779;1403055758;nubbins`;in mammal 722780;1403055761;*;nubbins` shrugs uncomfortably 722781;1403055802;nubbins`;meanwhile, in vancouver: http://i.imgur.com/qKcGpzi.jpg 722782;1403055860;TheNewDeal;hahaha 722783;1403055868;asciilifeform;can't dig it up in nature? build. unless we have hands solely to jack off with. 722784;1403055888;TheNewDeal;most definitely the latter 722785;1403055909;asciilifeform;dovetails nicely with the discussion of recombinant cocain-excreting e.coli. 722786;1403055916;mircea_popescu;lol such dude 722787;1403055925;TheNewDeal;gimme somma dat 722788;1403056036;moiety;http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/rolf-steiner-cow-gets-stuck-on-roof-in-swiss-alps-4764420/ 722789;1403056037;assbot;Rolf Steiner: Cow gets stuck on roof near Swiss Alps | Metro News 722790;1403056060;moiety;this cow needs some time in the park 722791;1403056178;nubbins`;cow chilling park 722792;1403056217;BingoBoingo;Suggested sidebar link http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/ouch-man-slaps-an-opossum-gets-a-handful-of-400-porcupine-quills-4765333/ 722793;1403056218;assbot;Brazilian man slaps an opossum, gets a handful of 400 porcupine quills | Metro News 722794;1403056245;asciilifeform;philosophy of building with own hands >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4t6QQn8KM << english translation in 'show more' tab 722795;1403056245;assbot; - /You are a Man ( ) - YouTube 722796;1403056262;moiety;oh nubbins`, i watched quite a few films when i was internetless. This is really good: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ (also shutter island and inception but i think i'm the only one in the world who hadn't seen those yet) 722797;1403056263;assbot;We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) - IMDb 722798;1403056336;moiety;how on earth did that man get the two confused 722799;1403056416;[]bot;Bet created: "Suarez to stay at Liverpool" http://bitbet.us/bet/949/ 722800;1403056419;TheNewDeal;and inception returns to mediocrity after you watch it a couple more times 722801;1403056442;TheNewDeal;was great the first time, good the second, ... 722802;1403056449;moiety;i don't understand how anyone could have found it confusing 722803;1403056458;TheNewDeal;most people are... stupid? 722804;1403056476;moiety;fair point 722805;1403056476;TheNewDeal;or lack attention spans that last 120+ minutes 722806;1403056482;TheNewDeal;some combination 722807;1403056500;moiety;most people don't watch memento the full way through or complain it doesn't make sense either 722808;1403056547;mircea_popescu;;;later tell organofcorti nice site btw 722809;1403056547;gribble;The operation succeeded. 722810;1403056581;mircea_popescu;http://organofcorti.blogspot.com << he's like the mike_c of mining 722811;1403056581;assbot;Neighbourhood Pool Watch 722812;1403056635;BingoBoingo;And he's been doing it for quite a while 722813;1403056651;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/BxIRSGj.jpg 722814;1403056667;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo kinda how one gets good yeah 722815;1403056682;TheNewDeal;moiety momento was quality 722816;1403056962;moiety;i thought so too TheNewDeal 722817;1403057257;[]bot;Bet created: "A pool will have at least 51% of the Bitcoin network" http://bitbet.us/bet/950/ 722818;1403057276;TheNewDeal;ridiculous http://kotaku.com/decades-later-someones-discovered-a-new-super-mario-br-1591884544?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow 722819;1403057276;assbot;Decades Later, Someone's Discovered a New Super Mario Bros. Glitch 722820;1403057442;TheNewDeal;so does that 51% have to occur over a week time period? 722821;1403057504;TheNewDeal;faack gotta go to sleep 722822;1403057659;[]bot;Bet created: "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ 722823;1403057689;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla o look at that, 179:144 722824;1403057715;kakobrekla;you will never reach my registration date! 722825;1403057724;mircea_popescu;damn 722826;1403057744;mircea_popescu;I WAS BUSY THAT MAY DAMNIT 722827;1403057781;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 722828;1403057784;gribble;Current Blocks: 306422 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 9 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13448095222.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.38809 722829;1403057879;mircea_popescu;sooo 14 seems certain huh. 722830;1403057925;mike_c;unless.. http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/ 722831;1403057925;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (62%) on Yes, 0.81 B (38%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 day| weight: 91`228 (100`000 to 1) 722832;1403058060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21959695 = 1.5372 BTC [+] {3} 722833;1403058288;mircea_popescu;yeah i guess. 722834;1403058651;BingoBoingo;http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/did-la-kings-fans-take-out-lapd-drone-during-stanley-cup-party-135942533.html 722835;1403058653;assbot;Did LA Kings fans take out LAPD drone during Stanley Cup party? | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports 722836;1403058670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00082669 = 4.7741 BTC [+] 722837;1403059339;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-expects-ship-20nm-week/ 722838;1403059465;mike_c;hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :) 722839;1403059585;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000985 = 1.4775 BTC [-] {2} 722840;1403060247;mircea_popescu;knc kinda delivers don't they 722841;1403060303;BingoBoingo;Often broken and shitty product, but yeah 722842;1403060362;asciilifeform;miner... delivers << still seems analogous to... if toilet paper were always shipped lightly-used. 722843;1403060421;mircea_popescu;lol 722844;1403060432;cazalla;knc bet might just get there heh 722845;1403060683;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8885 @ 0.00082679 = 7.346 BTC [+] {2} 722846;1403061748;benkay;http://nsapwn.com 722847;1403061749;assbot;NSA Pwnage Calculator 722848;1403061868;asciilifeform;benkay: related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9OGmaGwoo << translation: 'who is stronger? elephant, or whale?' 722849;1403061868;assbot; - YouTube 722850;1403062649;trinque;benkay: that makes me think govt control of BTC is hard to avoid 722851;1403062690;Mats_cd03;21:29 <•TheNewDeal> gribble quit it with the ">;" crap << your client sucks, mine parses it correctly 722852;1403062887;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 722853;1403062889;gribble;Current Blocks: 306432 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 53850340580.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00015 722854;1403062900;Mats_cd03;lol? 722855;1403063182;Mats_cd03;;;math 1.3462^1.04 722856;1403063182;gribble;Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462^1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin. 722857;1403063191;Mats_cd03;;;math 1.3462**1.04 722858;1403063191;gribble;Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462**1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin. 722859;1403063200;Mats_cd03;fuck you 722860;1403063611;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00082725 = 3.8583 BTC [+] 722861;1403067637;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10060 @ 0.00082725 = 8.3221 BTC [+] 722862;1403068674;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43350 @ 0.0008237 = 35.7074 BTC [-] {3} 722863;1403068684;moiety;http://lovemeow.com/2014/06/cat-and-lynx-become-inseparable-friends/ :D 722864;1403068685;assbot;Cat And Lynx Become Inseparable Friends 722865;1403069162;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00227025 = 1.1351 BTC [+] {3} 722866;1403069436;Apocalyptic;;;calc 1.3462**1.04 722867;1403069437;gribble;1.36230380511 722868;1403069444;Apocalyptic;Mats_cd03, ^ 722869;1403069802;FabianB;mircea_popescu: jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait. <-- it kind of does now, even probably not what you expected 722870;1403070478;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 722871;1403070491;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 722872;1403070493;gribble;Current Blocks: 306443 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2004 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11878747551.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -11.7647 722873;1403072212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2980 @ 0.00082725 = 2.4652 BTC [+] 722874;1403072273;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20023447 = 0.6007 BTC [-] {2} 722875;1403073127;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00082464 = 17.9359 BTC [-] {2} 722876;1403073432;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40750 @ 0.00082731 = 33.7129 BTC [+] {2} 722877;1403073849;moiety;!up Vexual 722878;1403073973;moiety;!up Vexual 722879;1403073977;Vexual;ohai 722880;1403073986;moiety;hai :] 722881;1403074054;Vexual;whats new? 722882;1403074277;Apocalyptic;so Argentina is refusing to pay some US hedge funds some settlement on their debt 722883;1403074353;Vexual;yeah i read that 1.5 bn 722884;1403074365;Vexual;can't afford it ? 722885;1403074389;moiety;what will happen next? 722886;1403074405;Vexual;they will still not afford it 722887;1403074423;moiety;will it just stalemate? 722888;1403074442;Apocalyptic;apparently they sent a couple of lawyers to NY 722889;1403074458;Apocalyptic;to "discuss" the matter with the judge that ordered them to pay 722890;1403074469;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2001 = 0.6003 BTC [-] 722891;1403074477;Apocalyptic;Vexual, apparently it's more like 15 bn in total 722892;1403074487;Vexual;o 722893;1403074547;Apocalyptic;the 2 funds in question are indeed owed 1.4, but this settlement will trigger payments to others funds too 722894;1403074551;Apocalyptic;from what I read 722895;1403074578;Apocalyptic;central bank reserves in USD are 28,5 bn 722896;1403074586;Apocalyptic;kind of a big chunk 722897;1403074713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18952502 = 0.7581 BTC [-] {4} 722898;1403074758;Vexual;i guess they owe germany gold then? 722899;1403074886;Vexual;nothing a few thousand men couldn't scratch off the surface in a month 722900;1403074941;Apocalyptic;speaking of germany and gold 722901;1403074950;Apocalyptic;I wonder how much US sent them back so far 722902;1403075018;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 71 @ 0.02999989 = 2.13 BTC [+] {2} 722903;1403075047;Vexual;fucking nada 722904;1403075224;moiety;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27884323 722905;1403075224;assbot;BBC News - Hidden painting found under Picasso's The Blue Room 722906;1403075230;Vexual;those suits sent to ny will do well to slow proceedings 722907;1403075316;Vexual;no wonder that guy sells for big money 722908;1403075405;moiety;buy one, get one free! 722909;1403075529;Vexual;a proper old picasso print can be had for 1nc 722910;1403075540;Vexual;or real coin even 722911;1403075665;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0 722912;1403075666;assbot;[HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container 722913;1403075678;fluffypony;so now everyone is rushing to verify that this is "nothing like Neo & Bee" 722914;1403075686;fluffypony;gotta love that group due diligence 722915;1403075702;fluffypony;"aving been in communication with these guys a bit I can say that they are definitely not NEO & BEE types. These guys definitely know what they are doing and they have proven that they can deliver since they have already done so. Unlike many offerings, their technical skills and abilities are pretty well proven." 722916;1403075804;moiety;because technical ability stops you running off with peoples monies 722917;1403075811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00082789 = 12.5839 BTC [+] {2} 722918;1403075818;moiety;!up Vexual 722919;1403075842;fluffypony;obviously 722920;1403075908;Vexual;hif is buy now? 722921;1403075961;Vexual;looks like havelocks answer to ghash 722922;1403075988;Vexual;and it'd be timed exactly right if not for the 3-6 month deployment time 722923;1403076113;fluffypony;yeah 722924;1403076446;Vexual;but it smells like catpiss and the cat is technique 722925;1403076639;Vexual;pankakke? 722926;1403076676;jurov;;;bc,stats 722927;1403076679;gribble;Current Blocks: 306455 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1992 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12833387688.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.67364 722928;1403076726;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00082264 = 10.2419 BTC [-] 722929;1403076823;Vexual;the prospectus has anxpro on a cg container, are they affiliated? 722930;1403076909;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SHA] 25 @ 0.042 = 1.05 BTC 722931;1403077389;Vexual;plus token white dude, dollar exchange, mining, stock market 722932;1403077397;Vexual;;;8ball 722933;1403077397;gribble;One would be wise to think so. 722934;1403078739;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21889486 = 0.8756 BTC [+] {4} 722935;1403078861;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.21929955 = 1.0965 BTC [+] {4} 722936;1403079266;pankkake;"their technical skills and abilities are pretty well proven" => same was said about kslaugther, presented as some rock star entrepreneur and engineer (when he was neither) 722937;1403079355;mircea_popescu;fluffypony neobee TYPES mind you. 722938;1403079375;mircea_popescu;these schmucks have sunk in the research and classifieds the typology nao. 722939;1403079387;mircea_popescu;the archetype of the neobee being, of course, that antonoderpulous guy. 722940;1403079468;Apocalyptic;pankkake, so was Zhou 722941;1403079544;fluffypony;yeah 722942;1403079561;fluffypony;well I had my say on the thread 722943;1403079596;fluffypony;and, of course, jimmothy is being retarded: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.msg7375512#msg7375512 722944;1403079597;assbot;[HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container 722945;1403079616;pankkake;his blind hate for anything MP 722946;1403079640;mircea_popescu;wait im involved ? 722947;1403079654;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I dared to mention that a WoT presence might be a good starting point 722948;1403079667;jurov;"it was pretty hard to not reach a positive ROI by now with most asics." this doesn't have anything to do with mp 722949;1403079685;mircea_popescu;lol how's wot mp related 722950;1403079695;Apocalyptic;fluffypony, "Additionally, don't confuse the possibility of them being fiat profitable with them being Bitcoin profitable" too many derps don't distinguish between the two and will generally eagerly settle for the former 722951;1403079699;mircea_popescu;also most asics actually got no +roi. 722952;1403079704;mircea_popescu;$bait 722953;1403079705;pankkake;I don't mean made by MP 722954;1403079721;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic that's a problem, yeah. 722955;1403079742;pankkake;!up Vexual 722956;1403079757;mircea_popescu;the stupidity of people holding bitcoin is the one thing that can hurt bitcoin (as evidenced by say the pirate debacle, or by the fact that a million fucktarded stoners managed to give the usg a gift of 20k ish btcs) 722957;1403079778;mircea_popescu;luckily that tends to be a self-limiting problem 722958;1403079792;mircea_popescu;FabianB how does it do bait ? 722959;1403079795;pankkake;I hope you're right 722960;1403079822;mircea_popescu;pankkake well, it's finite see. the only way they can do something stupid in the first place is by giving it away 722961;1403079828;mircea_popescu;that's the definition of self limiting 722962;1403079846;mircea_popescu;Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to. 722963;1403079888;mircea_popescu;moiety: what will happen next? <<< probably us court will try to confiscate various argentine assets in various countries, further straining its relations with the world. 722964;1403079931;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic: I wonder how much US sent them back so far << the us had more sense than to put a clause in there that the matter is to be judged according to frankfurt law. 722965;1403079963;mircea_popescu;"They have something better than WOT. Real names and real business experience." ahahaha help me rwanda. 722966;1403079985;fluffypony;I know 722967;1403080001;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, in the meantime i read that they are planning to get 50% back to frankfurt in a matter of seven years or so 722968;1403080012;Apocalyptic;so it's too soon to tell how it's going 722969;1403080018;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic they're also planning tobalance the budget 722970;1403080025;mircea_popescu;over about the same timeframe 722971;1403080048;mircea_popescu;or wait, was that, they're planning to actually send congress a budget at all, like required by law ? 722972;1403080200;Apocalyptic; Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to. // yeah they could at the expense of roughly half their USD reserves 722973;1403080208;mircea_popescu;fluffypony " Given how reliant this company is on paying backend costs in fiat" I don't follow this part. 722974;1403080225;mircea_popescu;why would fiat costs pose a problem ? it's quite clear why fiat revenues are a problem for reits etc, but costs ? 722975;1403080237;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic right. 722976;1403080249;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: in other words, if they were paying staff and rent in Bitcoin they could present a business plan with amounts in Bitcoin 722977;1403080264;fluffypony;but they're reliant on the exchange-rate-at-the-time costs are due 722978;1403080293;mircea_popescu;so ? 722979;1403080366;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-28/ 722980;1403080366;assbot;How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business 722981;1403080408;fluffypony;having fiat-denominated expenses is not in and of itself bad, but they're going to sink virtually the entire amount into fiat costs up-front 722982;1403080413;fluffypony;to pay for equipment etc. etc. 722983;1403080417;mircea_popescu;o well say it like that then 722984;1403080421;mircea_popescu;that makes sense. 722985;1403080436;fluffypony;-1 point for fluffyclarity 722986;1403080456;mircea_popescu;"by investing in this company you're buying chunks of a dollar-denominated investment, because they mostly plan to sell your bitcoin and pay off fiat costs." 722987;1403080467;fluffypony;yarp 722988;1403080479;mircea_popescu;it's funny tho, that completely disqualifies thyem from any sort of experience or competence in the field 722989;1403080491;mircea_popescu;quite contrary to that derps claims. 722990;1403080511;mircea_popescu;luckily we have years of amassed history and discussion to establish what competence/experience are, what they do and how they look like. 722991;1403080769;mircea_popescu;Mark Serbu told us, I refused to sell my rifles to the NYPD, and when I talked about it online, it blew up like crazy. Everybody liked the idea of a gun law biting the government on the ass. There are only two manufacturers of semi-automatic 50-caliber rifles in the US, and neither will sell to the NYPD. This is like, Screw you, New York. People are less safe without our rifles to protect you. 722992;1403080843;mircea_popescu;i had no idea they used the barrett as an anti-personnel device on the streets of the asphalt jungle 722993;1403080869;mircea_popescu;the army mostly uses it to blow up explosives iirc 722994;1403080934;BingoBoingo;Also works on trucks 722995;1403080950;mircea_popescu;i guess it'd work on anything short of a tank 722996;1403081137;BingoBoingo;Pretty much anything not specifically designed to prevent it working, with exception as defined by the laws of physics (mountains, clouds, the sun...) 722997;1403081205;mircea_popescu;i suppose the wanna-be cool dorks love it because it's so BIG and it looks JUST LIKE IN TH MOVIES OMAYGAWD 722998;1403081213;mircea_popescu;god help you if you have to use the thing indoors tho 722999;1403081352;mircea_popescu;fluffypony btw that article is quite useful 723000;1403081361;mircea_popescu;but srsly, make better urls. 723001;1403081375;fluffypony;I have already, will go fix past articles a bit later 723002;1403081424;mircea_popescu;a cool. 723003;1403081429;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: But expensive things with niche uses when less expensive more general purpose tools of quality are available is the American way!!! 723004;1403081434;mircea_popescu;One thing to note is that, generally speaking, a Bitcoin/altcoin mining operation is strictly profitable from a fiat perspective. Anyone who thinks theyre profitable from a BTC perspective needs to take a cold, hard look at the data for the past few years, and needs to couple the historical data with the inevitable delays when pre-ordering mining equipment. << this is quite true. 723005;1403081450;mircea_popescu;bitcoin mining is a perfect avenue for large players to dodge tax, whcih is why the hash is going quite so nuts. 723006;1403081453;fluffypony;yes 723007;1403081459;mircea_popescu;rack up the fiat expenses so you don't make a profit, take the bitcoin home. 723008;1403081480;fluffypony;but it serves no practical purpose as an investment vehicle for those already holding Bitcoin (or who are buying Bitcoin on a monthly basis with their fiat earnings) 723009;1403081491;mircea_popescu;on top of that there's some... maybe 1-2% by now, amateurs that get to jerkoff to the thought that they're "just as much a part of bitcoin AS ANYONE" 723010;1403081520;mircea_popescu;they used to be 10% earlier this year. then again they used to be 100% a coupla years ago 723011;1403081548;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo only recently. didn't use to be. 723012;1403081634;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ? 723013;1403081636;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: American's didn't have the too much money problem until recently though (1950's) Kids who grew up with that mindset run the show nao though... or at least imagine they do 723014;1403081652;mircea_popescu;sad but true 723015;1403081725;BingoBoingo;All of these people who grew up when the rest of the world was crippled now imagine it still is. 723016;1403081737;BingoBoingo;%book 723017;1403081738;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 5k@150 49k@143 175k@142 723018;1403081759;mircea_popescu;how did the volume go again ? 723019;1403081769;mircea_popescu;%help 723020;1403081769;atcbot;%t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx | %bal
| %mined | %block | %lb | %tslb | %cm | %ptp | %help | %h 723021;1403081778;mircea_popescu;%t 723022;1403081779;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156 723023;1403081784;mircea_popescu;aha 723024;1403081786;mircea_popescu;%diff 723025;1403081789;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 430638.11 in 667 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.80 723026;1403081800;Apocalyptic;it's in quiet mode before the diff retarget 723027;1403081810;Apocalyptic;will bring the hoppers back 723028;1403081811;mircea_popescu;seems so yeah. 723029;1403081835;mircea_popescu;funny tho the lockstep way it works. 1k - 4k - 1.5k - 5k - 2k - 7k - 5k diff sort of thing 723030;1403081857;mircea_popescu;seems the hopper's "optimisation" is nothing but a dream in their head 723031;1403081869;mircea_popescu;since they'll be counting the "high" 5k as "low" six weeks later anyway 723032;1403081874;mircea_popescu;might as well just have mined all through. 723033;1403081899;Apocalyptic;well the hooper's "optimisation" is disturbed by unbalanced's plan somehow 723034;1403081907;mircea_popescu;course this is a fact people who aren't familiar with atc history probably easily miss. 723035;1403081918;Apocalyptic;dunno if he started earlier than this diff period though 723036;1403081924;BingoBoingo;%t 723037;1403081925;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156 723038;1403081939;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic i suspect it's only disrupted by the fact that atc has the sort of backing that makes it not go anywhere. it's nailed straight to the sun as it were. 723039;1403081954;mircea_popescu;this bit of info'd quite change the optimisation, if they had it. 723040;1403081961;BingoBoingo;%book 723041;1403081963;atcbot;35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150 723042;1403081967;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, it may well be so 723043;1403082037;Apocalyptic;http://www.boursorama.com/actualites/pour-la-cour-des-comptes-il-faut-baisser-le-nombre-de-fonctionnaires-ba3764c288078d33b05b57007f1062dc 723044;1403082037;assbot;Pour la Cour des comptes, il faut baisser le nombre de fonctionnaires 723045;1403082045;Apocalyptic;french people finally wake up 723046;1403082059;BingoBoingo;%t 723047;1403082061;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 160 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156 723048;1403082075;mircea_popescu;hahaha 723049;1403082084;mircea_popescu;how many are they anyway ? 20mn ? 723050;1403082095;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 723051;1403082096;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 607.51, Best ask: 609.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 609.0, 24 hour volume: 8473.12848309, 24 hour low: 586.84, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 604.991375459 723052;1403082102;Apocalyptic;i wouldn't hazard a guess, too much for sure 723053;1403082110;pankkake;Apocalyptic: la Cour des comptes has been saying smart things for years, and has been ignored all the way 723054;1403082117;Apocalyptic;yeah pankkake 723055;1403082138;pankkake;http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/les-intermittents-du-spectacle-occupent-la-cour-des-comptes_1499906.html 723056;1403082138;assbot;Les intermittents du spectacle occupent la Cour des comptes - L'Express 723057;1403082152;BingoBoingo;%tslb 723058;1403082153;atcbot;-9 minutes and 49 seconds 723059;1403082166;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 723060;1403082168;BingoBoingo;^ mod6 negative %tslb??? 723061;1403082176;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/237PFCH.txt ) 723062;1403082176;BingoBoingo;!b 3 723063;1403082178;pankkake;(translation : highly subsidied fake artists occupy the Court of Accounts) 723064;1403082188;BingoBoingo;%book 723065;1403082189;atcbot;2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150 723066;1403082258;BingoBoingo;http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/547767/unisys_phasing_decades-old_mainframe_processor_x86_chips/ 723067;1403082260;assbot;Unisys phasing out decades-old mainframe processor for x86 chips - Computerworld 723068;1403082307;pankkake;http://boingboing.net/2014/06/16/i-stopped-a-10-million-dollar.html 723069;1403082308;assbot;I stopped a ten million dollar robbery - Boing Boing 723070;1403082346;jurov;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/03/the-secret-service-wants-software-that-detects-social-media-sarcasm-yeah-sure-it-will-work/ 723071;1403082346;assbot;The Secret Service wants software that detects social media sarcasm. Yeah, sure it will work. - The Washington Post 723072;1403082364;jurov;"Ability to detect sarcasm and false positives," the request reads. 723073;1403082419;Apocalyptic;jurov, at this point it must be trolling 723074;1403082469;jurov;Apocalyptic why? i wouldn't put it past them? 723075;1403082580;BingoBoingo;Maybe the headline is the test? Secret Service collecting references to it as data to feed the beast... 723076;1403082597;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves you need a comment permalink, because nao i can't say thestringpuller;'s got a prettry interesting comment up there at http://devilsadvocate.biz/crabs-in-the-bucket/?replytocom=75#respond 723077;1403082599;assbot;Crabs in the Bucket 723078;1403082646;mircea_popescu;i could use some *people* that reliably detect my sarcasm 723079;1403082669;BingoBoingo;It's a hard problem in text 723080;1403082683;mircea_popescu;it's a hard problem irl, too. 723081;1403082735;mircea_popescu;ajhahaha that robbery link above : 723082;1403082736;mircea_popescu;Bill said, Well lend $10 million IF we get the full $25 million on any default. Here were the other terms Bill said. 723083;1403082736;mircea_popescu;- 15% interest, paid quarterly 723084;1403082736;mircea_popescu;- the full loan is due back in two years 723085;1403082736;mircea_popescu;- $600,000 fee paid to Bill up front. 723086;1403082737;mircea_popescu;- Bill wanted 25% of all the upside on the full $25 million in shares for the next ten years. 723087;1403082754;mircea_popescu;now THATs robbery. 723088;1403082875;BingoBoingo;How was the borrower agreeing to that not a red flag that they were a fake 723089;1403082896;mircea_popescu;it kinda is. 723090;1403082927;mircea_popescu;anyway, the post sounds legit. it's pretty much how something like that'd go. 723091;1403082962;BingoBoingo;Kinda the Roger Ver story, except he still praises and pays the loons that fleece him 723092;1403082978;mircea_popescu;I have an idea, I said, I know the guy who wrote that letter. Ill write to him and ask him if he wrote that letter. This way he independently verifies. << the wot. 723093;1403082993;mircea_popescu;quote that to forum derp. this is exactly what we fucking do here, day in, day out. 723094;1403083023;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2014#708635 723095;1403083024;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 723096;1403083026;pankkake;!up Vexual 723097;1403083035;pankkake;Vexual: why still not on the wot? 723098;1403083036;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit 723099;1403083040;pankkake;not that you could be easily faked 723100;1403083053;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: I hate all the other jekyll comment plugins 723101;1403083083;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Just have a send all comments to X@Y.Z email address 723102;1403083104;fluffypony;too much like hard work 723103;1403083106;fluffypony;:-P 723104;1403083117;fluffypony;I'll see if there's something new out for jekyll that is non-JS-ish 723105;1403083128;BingoBoingo;Or... Just use Wordpress comments 723106;1403083137;fluffypony;I will never install Wordpress again. EVER. 723107;1403083149;BingoBoingo;Not the whole thing, just the comment form 723108;1403083153;pankkake;I've seen some automated systems to do it, finally. proper comments was the only thing I would miss with a static blog 723109;1403083170;pankkake;I haven't tried those yet though 723110;1403083175;fluffypony;there's this: https://github.com/mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments 723111;1403083176;assbot;mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments GitHub 723112;1403083180;fluffypony;not wild about it, tho 723113;1403083214;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com the hottest idea in bitcoin 723114;1403083215;gribble;Probably the hottest business idea of the moment in BTC… pe ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Some basic discussion of Bitcoin macroeconomy pe Trilema - Un ...: 723115;1403083217;fluffypony;oh this is something I never noticed: https://blog.caurea.org/2012/03/31/this-blog-has-comments-again.html 723116;1403083217;assbot;caurea.org 723117;1403083225;fluffypony;it does an email address per post 723118;1403083253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2199997 = 1.1 BTC [+] 723119;1403083258;fluffypony;will take a looksie again when I have time 723120;1403083271;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#719018 to go with above link 723121;1403083272;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 723122;1403083284;mircea_popescu; fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit << srsly. 723123;1403083335;BingoBoingo;The reason to use wordpress is that it's the standard. Doing it right is hard, but all of the usefull standards are. 723124;1403083359;mircea_popescu;he's prolly tried wp past 1.x and got burned by how shitty it is 723125;1403083394;BingoBoingo;2.X for some values of X isn't bad. Same with 3.X with caveat, that for some values of X. 723126;1403083395;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md2bx746Pd1r2b8jbo1_400.jpg << trap house! 723127;1403083405;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo ya i meat 2 not 1 my bad 723128;1403083437;fluffypony;;;ping 723129;1403083438;gribble;pong 723130;1403083447;fluffypony;so I asked Jimmy Boy: "I'll turn that around and ask you to list 3 mining operations that were Bitcoin profitable. To simplify, you can just list the asset, what the IPO share price was, and what BTC dividends to date would have been for 1 BTC invested." 723131;1403083456;fluffypony;to which he responds: "Petamine, asicminer, 100th mine, and most people who bought bfl hardware, AM hardware, knc hardware, bitmain hardware, a1 clones, avalon hardware, bitfury hardware." 723132;1403083474;fluffypony;apparently buying hardware == investing in an asset. 723133;1403083494;mircea_popescu;fluffypony he went to the us school of diversive argumentation. 723134;1403083520;fluffypony;and apparently "The whole internet is a web of trust." 723135;1403083524;fluffypony;he didn't read my comments AT ALL 723136;1403083527;mircea_popescu;serious politician : "name one policy your demagogy implemented that served the public" 723137;1403083529;fluffypony;stupid fucktard. 723138;1403083543;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Maybe ask why hes till isn't Bitrich 723139;1403083547;pankkake;100th mine was profitable? 723140;1403083552;mircea_popescu;twerp : "guncontrolobamacareglobalwarmingsmokingbanclimatechangederpyherpyderpderpherp" 723141;1403083567;mircea_popescu;costs him about 100x less to run the mouth than it costs you, and so... he's using it. 723142;1403083593;mircea_popescu;this is why, incidentally, giving people a voice is such a bad idea. 723143;1403083619;mircea_popescu;the only thing it yields is a vicious circle of ever decreasing marginal investment in speech 723144;1403083639;pankkake;also people who bought bfl profited?! 723145;1403083649;mircea_popescu;what a healthy society needs are lemon laws for speech. 723146;1403083688;fluffypony;lemon laws! 723147;1403083717;xmj;mircea_popescu: lemon laws? 723148;1403083731;xmj;as in, The Market For Lemons ? 723149;1403083864;mircea_popescu;problem with trying to implement that however is that it's too fucking sweet for whoever's in charge to hijack it into oppression of dissent 723150;1403083896;mircea_popescu;so basically society only works for as long as society enforces some sort of equivalent by itself. which is also why there can never be a society of "laws not men". 723151;1403083902;mircea_popescu;men are needed to keep language meaningful. 723152;1403083985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7724 @ 0.00008136 = 0.6284 BTC [-] {6} 723153;1403084015;BingoBoingo;Sorta like the dilema by which Bitcoin is great for a well lawed and ordered society yet incredibly hostile to regulation 723154;1403084039;mircea_popescu;well you can't cutthe knife 723155;1403084089;BingoBoingo;Plenty of tools cut knives. 723156;1403084150;mircea_popescu;sure. but nothing cuts itself. evntually you get to a prime mover. 723157;1403084159;mircea_popescu;bitcoin can't be regulated because it regulates you. 723158;1403084168;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082119 = 7.7192 BTC [-] 723159;1403084273;BingoBoingo;Cake cutting for the lonely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBU9N35ZHIw 723160;1403084273;assbot;The Scientific Way to Cut a Cake - YouTube 723161;1403084391;mircea_popescu;incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? 723162;1403084407;mircea_popescu;or so common & obvious it really doesn't need a word for itself 723163;1403084441;fluffypony;a pie chart is called a camembert chart in French? 723164;1403084444;fluffypony;awesome 723165;1403084447;mircea_popescu;hehehe 723166;1403084449;BingoBoingo;The latter it seems from my limited knowledge 723167;1403084477;pankkake;fluffypony: fun thing, it's called just "un camembert", not even "graphe en camembert" 723168;1403084509;mircea_popescu;imo this should be backported to english 723169;1403084521;fluffypony;agreed 723170;1403084531;mircea_popescu;"his camemberts looked like blocks of fucking swiss" 723171;1403084567;fluffypony;hah hah 723172;1403084602;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i wonder how they manage to shoot videos tbh. if i were living the limited lifespan of a rappar, i couldn't give less of a shit as to what tv convntions are. 723173;1403084613;mircea_popescu;all my videos feature shots of the nekkid ladies 723174;1403084633;mircea_popescu;must seem so fucken plastic & fake. "whyz dese bitches dresst anyway?!?!" 723175;1403084686;pankkake;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg%27s_Doggystyle 723176;1403084687;assbot;Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 723177;1403084691;FabianB;<+mircea_popescu> FabianB how does it do bait ? <-- not exactly, i mean this: 723178;1403084697;FabianB;$depth mpoe 723179;1403084697;empyex;FabianB: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=91 Or use a valid MPSIC! 723180;1403084697;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 723181;1403084712;mircea_popescu;aok 723182;1403084762;mircea_popescu;but pankkake ... why'z dem bitchez dresst ?! 723183;1403084775;mircea_popescu;also wtf shitty chopjob 723184;1403084961;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 723185;1403085036;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 723186;1403085038;gribble;Current Blocks: 306472 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1975 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13957917818.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.67937 723187;1403085218;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/#c3100 723188;1403085218;assbot;BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.19 B (57%) on Yes, 0.14 B (43%) on No | closed 13 hours 27 minutes ago 723189;1403085373;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it god paid out already neh ? 723190;1403085400;BingoBoingo;Yeah, amazing how sometimes events make the errors irrelevant. 723191;1403085400;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 723192;1403085478;mircea_popescu;:p 723193;1403085527;BingoBoingo;I was kinda hoping Ghana would have won that one 723194;1403085676;BingoBoingo;American Cities are now more valuable as set pieces than as functioning locations http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/06/transformers_premake_documentary_age_of_extinction_inspires_guerrilla_video.html 723195;1403085676;assbot;Transformers Premake documentary: Age of Extinction inspires guerrilla video essay (VIDEO). 723196;1403085693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.21999999 = 2.64 BTC [+] {3} 723197;1403085803;BingoBoingo;Detroit and Chicago are cheaper stand ins for China than... China 723198;1403085815;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.23955234 = 15.3313 BTC [+] {6} 723199;1403085824;mircea_popescu;hahaha 723200;1403085876;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.245 = 2.45 BTC [+] {2} 723201;1403085996;BingoBoingo;Jimmothy http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/06/1207-am.html 723202;1403085996;assbot;Doctor Grumpy in the House: 12:07 a.m. 723203;1403086059;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.24384615 = 6.34 BTC [-] {2} 723204;1403086075;mircea_popescu;ahahaha epic 723205;1403086181;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00082825 = 10.5188 BTC [+] {2} 723206;1403086343;mircea_popescu;"I was shaking. We had spoken to Evil on the phone." ahaha dude how fucking overdramatic can altucher get. 723207;1403086380;mircea_popescu;a fraudster stands to evil in the relationship an army major stands to the government. 723208;1403086486;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.22000065 = 2.2 BTC [-] {3} 723209;1403086564;BingoBoingo;I dunno if even a Madoff level fraudster makes it as an officer candidate in the Evil Army 723210;1403086624;mircea_popescu;well what is evil army ? 723211;1403086654;mircea_popescu;evil is traditionally used as the catchall for anything anyone perceives as contrarian or enmitous and isn't readily reducible. 723212;1403086720;BingoBoingo;Well, in the heirarchy I imagine Pol Pot makes Colnel... barely 723213;1403086725;mircea_popescu;davout http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/16/the-security-fail-blockchain-wont-tell-you-about/ << good points, but the blockchain wallet usecase isn't storying a lot of btc. 723214;1403086725;assbot;The security fail blockchain won’t tell you about | fr.anco.is 723215;1403086764;mircea_popescu;actually pretty much the only usecase i'm aware of is when you want to do basically the equivalent of issuing yourself a limited preloaded card. 723216;1403086800;mircea_popescu;i never use the cards associated with my various business accounts, ever. but if they came with a diy kit where i could create my own subcards, preload them and discard them... maybe, just maybe. 723217;1403086827;fluffypony;I've been wanting the same 723218;1403086833;mircea_popescu;irk ? 723219;1403086843;fluffypony;even if it's only creating virtual cards initially 723220;1403086847;fluffypony;load amounts in 723221;1403086850;BingoBoingo;Yeah, a decent low fee prepaid card is basically a money condom 723222;1403086852;fluffypony;and use them online for a month or two 723223;1403086855;mircea_popescu;no fucking way am i sharing an account that may well have fiddy million in it with some random guy with a pony tail in whatever restaurant 723224;1403086856;fluffypony;and then abandon them 723225;1403086872;mircea_popescu;no matter how ridiculous counting fiddy hundred dollar bills may look to the sort of people i don't fuck anyway 723226;1403086885;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1EY4QV1.txt ) 723227;1403086885;BingoBoingo;!b 1 723228;1403086914;mircea_popescu;people do stupid sht like that all the time, too. 723229;1403086950;mircea_popescu;ever want to get a kickass car ? it's simple : buy a red jacket and a cap, sit by the entrance to an expensive restaurant 723230;1403086958;mircea_popescu;you'll get a free ferrari in five minutes flat. 723231;1403086967;fluffypony;lol 723232;1403086973;mircea_popescu;guy just hands you the key and walks off. 723233;1403086988;mircea_popescu;"o, he thought you were the vallet". well that's fine, you thought he was santa. 723234;1403087050;mircea_popescu;as joelkatz would say, "common misunderstanding" 723235;1403087140;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1CPFDED.txt ) 723236;1403087140;BingoBoingo;!b 6 723237;1403087345;mircea_popescu;Yiannis Chrysanthou, a security researcher who recently completed his MSc thesis on modern password cracking, was able to crack the password "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn1." 723238;1403087349;mircea_popescu;fuck me that sounds scary 723239;1403087364;mircea_popescu;up until you realise some total dork took a line off lovercraft, as-is. 723240;1403087466;jurov;http://explo.yt/post/2014/02/26/Bruce-Schneier-passwords-fail exactly as i wrote 723241;1403087466;assbot;Bruce Schneier passwords fail - serialized delusions 723242;1403087495;mircea_popescu;ayup 723243;1403087498;mircea_popescu;!up ansc 723244;1403087504;mircea_popescu;;;google romanian dicelist 723245;1403087505;gribble;Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Climax pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; On Making High-Entropy Paper Wallets | When Bitcoin Met Pete: 723246;1403087518;mircea_popescu;i really recommend that thing. fucking special characters rock for the purpose. 723247;1403087632;jurov;!up Vexual 723248;1403087648;Vexual;hehe 723249;1403087685;jurov;!down Vexual 723250;1403087688;jurov;hehe 723251;1403087734;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 723252;1403087748;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1MBMX4N.txt ) 723253;1403087748;mircea_popescu;!b 7 723254;1403087785;BingoBoingo;Bash hasn't updated in a while... is it on Mats_cd03's no poop pills? 723255;1403087827;mircea_popescu;lol 723256;1403087831;mircea_popescu;wasn't jurov modded ? 723257;1403087832;mircea_popescu;lazyboi! 723258;1403087867;jurov;!down mircea_popescu 723259;1403087899;mircea_popescu;you tryin' to go down on me ? 723260;1403087916;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/18AS5Q9.txt ) 723261;1403087916;BingoBoingo;!b 2 723262;1403087958;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=579498.msg6386721#msg6386721 << pretty epic shit. 723263;1403087958;assbot;[ANN] Altcoin Casinos | Invest | | Bitcointa.lk 723264;1403087962;mircea_popescu;why's that guy not in here ? 723265;1403087966;mircea_popescu;someone invite him 723266;1403088059;mircea_popescu;"Due to the fake account troll below this post has been moved." ahahaha 723267;1403088117;mircea_popescu;;;rated fluffypony 723268;1403088118;gribble;You rated user fluffypony on Mon May 26 08:18:51 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: I don't know him but his wife sends me selfies.. 723269;1403088151;mircea_popescu;;;rate fluffypony 2 Businessman that now owes me a steak. 723270;1403088155;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user fluffypony has changed from 1 to 2. 723271;1403088187;fluffypony;lol 723272;1403088295;ansc;mp: what are your thoughts on icbit.se ? 723273;1403088313;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema icbit.se 723274;1403088314;gribble;Icbit.se, the bucket shop pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Security Comparison of Bitcoin-Denominated Instruments ... - Trilema: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 723275;1403088340;mircea_popescu;that's a year or two old by now. perhaps things changed. not sure why they would have. 723276;1403088412;mircea_popescu;ahahaah that thread just gives and gives and gives. 723277;1403088441;mircea_popescu;should be fucking framed. " Are you finished? Your wrong.", trhen guy goes back and edits it once it's pointed out 723278;1403088512;ansc;interesting piece. from that perspective, nothing has changed. no need to update. thank you for the link. 723279;1403088556;mircea_popescu;the boon #bitcoin-assets bestows upon they who come seeking wisdom is great indeed. 723280;1403088576;ansc;haha right. i must say i do agree. 723281;1403088587;mircea_popescu;fluffypony what's the xxxprofit story ? 723282;1403088711;BingoBoingo;%book 723283;1403088713;atcbot;2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150 723284;1403088719;fluffypony;the dude seems like a reasonable guy, he's very open about that and the appliance thing being fiat businesses, but I think he's struggling to find anyone around him willing to invest because, hey, porn site 723285;1403088723;BingoBoingo;%ticker 723286;1403088724;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 201 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 157 723287;1403088739;Vexual;link? 723288;1403088740;fluffypony;I told him to get on here and get in the WoT as it'll help with future ventures 723289;1403088746;punkman;https://icbit.se/node/69 always in beta (TM) 723290;1403088747;assbot;Price Calculation Fix | ICBIT - Bitcoin Exchange and Futures Market 723291;1403088750;mircea_popescu;what, i love pron sites. heck, im STILL trying to get in touch with that pleasantly uninhibited chick from reddit. 723292;1403088753;mircea_popescu;whatver her namne was 723293;1403088767;mircea_popescu;;;notes 723294;1403088768;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, buanzo, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, MurphyLawn, newyorkadam, nubbins, nubbins`i, organofcorti, Phinnaeus, plezoh, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, unbalanced, and weenfan. 723295;1403088783;Vexual;lol lowecase me is gone 723296;1403088786;mircea_popescu;anarkitty. hey, this creates a new usecase for gribble. leave a note for osmeone, remember their name. 723297;1403089170;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=639298.0 723298;1403089170;assbot;Full Dox: BTC-ARBS.COM (and their undeniable links to HYIPs) | Bitcointa.lk 723299;1403089344;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo for what it's worth the dilemma is irreducible. 723300;1403089363;BingoBoingo;!up ansc 723301;1403089367;mircea_popescu;on one hand, the slipped up theory is convincing. on the other hand, the sort of scammer/internet fraudster depicted often tries to run a hosting business on the side 723302;1403089380;mircea_popescu;so it may be a clueless noob that got a GREAT webhosting offer 723303;1403089383;ansc;anyone seen this latest idiocy: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/290ed010-f567-11e3-91a8-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz34snzDqLe 723304;1403089383;assbot;Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error 723305;1403089415;ansc;ok anyway, it's about the fed imposing exit fees on bond funds. 723306;1403089423;mircea_popescu;not surprising. 723307;1403089430;mircea_popescu;actually... i think it was predicted here months ago :p 723308;1403089433;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: It is indeed astounding how the bad habits of both groups align this way 723309;1403089521;BingoBoingo;A and B are indistiguishable at x,y because they do the same thing at that point. 723310;1403089549;BingoBoingo;!up Vexual 723311;1403089661;BingoBoingo;I wonder if herbi will ever try his hand at ATC again 723312;1403089683;Vexual;didn't you take all his moneys? 723313;1403089722;BingoBoingo;Vexual: Sure, at the time, but noa his is busy with OMG acquisitions!!! in his most recent messages. 723314;1403089765;Mats_cd03;lol you're a douche 723315;1403089790;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Douches are good, they are a force for cleansing 723316;1403090069;punkman;this curses stuff is enough to make me curse, but it's getting there: http://i.imgur.com/Jj0xIdi.png 723317;1403090096;fluffypony;punkman: looks great 723318;1403090106;Vexual;neato 723319;1403090154;BingoBoingo;Nice punkman 723320;1403090181;ansc;interesting that the odds are so much in favor of btc with brk/a trading @189k 723321;1403090229;punkman;now it tells me when I've already bet on a proposition and calculates the total along with hypothetical bets. Handy for topping up a bet 723322;1403090241;BingoBoingo;Nice 723323;1403090310;ansc;so one could calculate the implicit interest rate of btc based on these probabilities 723324;1403090329;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8142 @ 0.00082492 = 6.7165 BTC [-] 723325;1403090464;BingoBoingo;ansc: Well, I think the tool being tried for the effort at large now is f.mpif 723326;1403090480;BingoBoingo;!mpif 723327;1403090482;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021664 BTC (Total: 433.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] 723328;1403090484;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 723329;1403090484;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.02517117 BTC; +0.16054045 BTC (+0.0940%) since last check 11h 38m 47s ago. 723330;1403090494;Naphex;BingoBoingo: we're going live with EUR/USD next week. will you be sticking to ron or going for EUR/USD?;p 723331;1403090495;punkman;did klye re-ipo? 723332;1403090512;BingoBoingo;punkman: We can all hope so 723333;1403090653;BingoBoingo;Naphex: It depends on how the book looks. I'll prolly announce the June or July statement if I've moved into that pairing or not, pending consultation with the general manager. I'll watch at for least weeks, emphasis plural, before making a decision. 723334;1403090718;BingoBoingo;Naphex: In BTC/Fiat I am exceedingly cautions 723335;1403090741;BingoBoingo;I inhere the properties of cautions 723336;1403090748;Naphex;probably best:p 723337;1403090922;BingoBoingo;Naphex: I'm trading by hand so any moves into fiat occur only when I'm awake and ready to put in a lower bid very soon after fulfillment. << As this in in the chan it is an official disclosure. Nao.. Good luck figuring out my sleep wake cycle... if there is a discernable one. 723338;1403090978;Naphex;i don't trade at all 723339;1403091034;BingoBoingo;I as mentioned before really didn't start until I beat herbi. Before I occasionally bet substituting exchanges for bookies. 723340;1403091096;Naphex;how are you likeing it doing it as a full time job? 723341;1403091101;Naphex;or not full time 723342;1403091293;BingoBoingo;I do this pretty much as I mention in the statements. It's a thing... I do it. I'll offer a range of more than most actual work the lowest performing civil servants do, but still less than nubbins` when he is in extreme focused art mode. (I estimate that to be between 0 and all of the hours in a week) 723343;1403091342;thestringpuller;what hppened to pity the pool? 723344;1403091364;BingoBoingo;? 723345;1403091369;thestringpuller;its down for me 723346;1403091374;thestringpuller;!up Vexual 723347;1403091375;BingoBoingo;%diff 723348;1403091377;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 430092.04 in 660 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.88 723349;1403091380;BingoBoingo;Really? 723350;1403091384;thestringpuller;yea 723351;1403091388;BingoBoingo;%tslb 723352;1403091388;atcbot;21 minutes and 6 seconds 723353;1403091389;thestringpuller;can you reach atc.pitythepool.com 723354;1403091429;BingoBoingo;I wouldn't know how. My fumbling attemps at mining never met going to a pool 723355;1403091507;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/06/17/sen_claire_mccaskill_dissects_dr_oz_for_weight_loss_scams.html 723356;1403091507;assbot;Sen. Claire McCaskill dissects Dr. Oz for weight loss scams. 723357;1403091844;BingoBoingo;http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6973365/i-cant-believe-they-made-trophies-for-these-things 723358;1403091845;assbot;I Can't Believe They Made Trophies For These Things - CollegeHumor Post 723359;1403091952;BingoBoingo;I think one of the most important moments of my development was when as a child I learned the trophie store is an actual place 723360;1403092079;cazalla;that's a memory i have too.. i use to play soccer, cherished the ribbons and trophies, figured out you could buy yourself the biggest and engrave anything for doing nothing killed the motivation to play 723361;1403092192;Naphex;cazalla: the trick to being pro is getting paid to play :) 723362;1403092194;Naphex;not trophies 723363;1403092203;Naphex;you can scam trophies on everything :P 723364;1403092215;cazalla;i actually played with a pro, he got dumped from the aussie team this world cup though 723365;1403092233;cazalla;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Wilkshire 723366;1403092233;assbot;Luke Wilkshire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 723367;1403092243;cazalla;he bought me a he-man for my 7th birthday party 723368;1403092360;BingoBoingo;cazalla: I took away that anyone can have anything engraved and realized you can conceal success. 723369;1403092363;Naphex;mircea_popescu: http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/social/lov-moneda-virtuala-a-tiganilor-pe-care-nu-stiu-s-o-foloseasca-ce-stiu-romii-din-stefanesti-despre-banul-de-pe-internet.html 723370;1403092364;assbot;"Ce sa facem noi cu loveaua?". Moneda tiganeasca de pe internet pe care supusii lui Cioaba nici nu stiu sa o foloseasca 723371;1403092368;Naphex;a must see :)) 723372;1403092402;Naphex;Romanian Gypsy king releases gypsy coin 723373;1403092405;Naphex;called LOV 723374;1403092406;Naphex;:)) 723375;1403092412;Naphex;cryptocurrency :) 723376;1403093082;fluffypony;lol really? 723377;1403093084;fluffypony;that's hilarious 723378;1403093098;Naphex;Gypsy King said next month he has meeting with US VP 723379;1403093103;Naphex;and his gonna mention LOVECoin 723380;1403093114;Naphex;they want it recognized like baitcoin 723381;1403093123;Naphex;true story 723382;1403093217;Naphex;watch the video:P 723383;1403093280;BingoBoingo;too late http://www.cryptodefense.org/#!mission/cerb 723384;1403093280;assbot;The Cryptocurrency Defense Foundation 723385;1403093510;BingoBoingo;The abject poverty of too much money http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/06/18/nasa_funding_new_senate_bill_will_keep_us_relying_on_russians_for_rides.html 723386;1403093510;assbot;NASA funding: New Senate bill will keep us relying on Russians for rides to space. 723387;1403093545;pankkake;"us" 723388;1403093929;Naphex;http://www.cryptodefense.org/#!mission/cerb 723389;1403093956;Naphex;sry bad key :o 723390;1403094072;punkman;lolpatents 723391;1403094131;punkman;'Amazon patents 1-click blockchain transaction' 723392;1403095087;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9061 @ 0.0008265 = 7.4889 BTC [+] 723393;1403095575;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0687777 = 1.7194 BTC [-] 723394;1403096856;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.069 = 1.794 BTC [+] 723395;1403097429;mircea_popescu;Naphex ahahaha 723396;1403097550;mircea_popescu;nice punkman 723397;1403097684;mircea_popescu; what hppened to pity the pool? << ddos wars raging 723398;1403097919;mircea_popescu;peterl has an excellent point here http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/#comment-101367 723399;1403097920;assbot;Introducing the D. series pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 723400;1403097926;mircea_popescu;all sorts of arbitrages suddenly open 723401;1403098418;ThickAsThieves;[04:54] <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ? /// well it *should* take over the role of all other coins of no distinction 723402;1403098747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008265 = 6.0335 BTC [+] 723403;1403099238;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves you need a comment permalink ///hrm, i'm not sure how to enable such ... ? 723404;1403099422;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? /// gold digger, groupie, slut -- i'm not sure proper word exists, not that this is even a common thing 723405;1403099889;ThickAsThieves; Sent 1 week, 0 days, 11 hours, and 38 minutes ago: Altcoin is holding me back. /// hehe, how can i help? 723406;1403100511;chetty;http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/us-patent-office-cancels-redskins-trademark-registration-says-name-is-disparaging/2014/06/18/e7737bb8-f6ee-11e3-8aa9-dad2ec039789_story.html 723407;1403100511;assbot;U.S. Patent office cancels Redskins trademark registration, says name is disparaging - The Washington Post 723408;1403100734;bitcoinpete;chetty speaking of bad words: he/she 723409;1403100736;bitcoinpete;http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/17/vancouver-school-boards-genderless-pronouns-not-likely-to-stick-if-history-is-any-indication/?__federated=1 723410;1403100738;assbot;Vancouver School Board’s genderless pronouns xe, xem, xyr not likely to stick, if history is any indication | National Post 723411;1403100917;nubbins`;"a woman in her 20s that spends her life" 723412;1403100946;thestringpuller;nubbins`: do you have a tracking number for the shirt btw? 723413;1403101012;nubbins`;chetty: cue the "counterfeit" redskins jerseys / memorabilia 723414;1403101043;nubbins`;thestringpuller: sorry, was waiting a couple days to see if more orders came in. shirt's getting printed today. tracking is too costly, most people opt out 723415;1403101061;nubbins`;you can add it if you like tho, i think it's around an extra $10 723416;1403101092;thestringpuller;ah 723417;1403101113;thestringpuller;we can discuss, i like tracking 723418;1403101216;nubbins`;$20 shipping for $15 shirt :D 723419;1403101305;nubbins`;oh and hey, did you say you wanted the #b-a / freenode text on the back? 723420;1403101417;chetty;re:redskins decision// que the counterfeit everything, trademarks just became a joke 723421;1403101452;nubbins`;;;calc just became XD 723422;1403101452;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 723423;1403101455;nubbins`;i mean, uh 723424;1403101459;nubbins`;just became XD 723425;1403101786;mike_c;who is 'rethink-your-strategy'? that is some skilled trolling. 723426;1403101797;mike_c;pankkake? 723427;1403101855;pankkake;no 723428;1403101905;nubbins`;http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/17/vancouver-school-boards-genderless-pronouns-not-likely-to-stick-if-history-is-any-indication/?__federated=1 723429;1403101907;assbot;Vancouver School Board’s genderless pronouns xe, xem, xyr not likely to stick, if history is any indication | National Post 723430;1403101924;pankkake;"We are approve of this message." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.msg7378988#msg7378988 723431;1403101924;assbot;[HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container 723432;1403102026;pankkake;nubbins`: French would drive them mad 723433;1403102146;nubbins`;ils seraient rendus fous XD 723434;1403102226;nubbins`;"they" generally works but would sound odd in a group setting 723435;1403102267;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723409 723436;1403102268;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 723437;1403102285;nubbins`;ah haha i'm a dickhead 723438;1403102295;pankkake;the worst is job names. some can be gendered, some not, and even the French don't know what to do of them 723439;1403102302;nubbins`;chanteuse! 723440;1403102305;bitcoinpete;lol just 25 minutes late to the party 723441;1403102313;bitcoinpete;i suppose you want the cake now too? 723442;1403102330;nubbins`;D; 723443;1403102468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 144 @ 0.06580291 = 9.4756 BTC [-] {13} 723444;1403102495;bitcoinpete;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-roadshow-swag-special-car-giveaway-in-trek-america/ << these guys are from our local meet-up 723445;1403102496;assbot;North America's Bitcoin Roadshow Offers Free Car as Grand Prize 723446;1403102617;bitcoinpete;they're basically driving a kia across north america to "raise awareness" 723447;1403102635;bitcoinpete;then giving away the car or $10k worth of bitcoins 723448;1403102646;bitcoinpete;as fucking if someone takes the beat-up car instead of the coins 723449;1403102721;bitcoinpete;maybe mpex or bitbet should slap their logo on the side of this thing 723450;1403102752;bitcoinpete;i'm sure spots are for sale for an outrageous amount of money ;) 723451;1403102761;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds. 723452;1403102869;mike_c;it's like this, you just add a bunch of A records: http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3abitseed.xf2.org&run=toolpage 723453;1403102870;assbot;Network Tools: DNS,IP,Email 723454;1403102878;pankkake;the seeds I configured in the client are probably not working anymore 723455;1403102914;mike_c;they don't appear to be returning anything 723456;1403102956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00082933 = 15.0109 BTC [+] {2} 723457;1403102959;fluffypony;mike_c: dnsseeds don't work that way 723458;1403102966;fluffypony;they're dynamic with a low TTL 723459;1403102974;mike_c;don't work what way? 723460;1403102979;fluffypony;not hard-coded 723461;1403102992;pankkake;not necessarily 723462;1403102994;fluffypony;it's a round-robin list that's dynamically refreshed on an ongoing basis 723463;1403103004;mike_c;well that sounds like a nice enhancement eventually 723464;1403103005;pankkake;I've done all my altcoins with simple A records I updated myself 723465;1403103020;pankkake;but yes that requires knowning about the nodes 723466;1403103024;mike_c;but right now we are at ground zero with seeding. 723467;1403103028;fluffypony;here's the source 723468;1403103028;fluffypony;https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder 723469;1403103029;assbot;sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub 723470;1403103047;fluffypony;not exactly rocket-science stuff 723471;1403103050;fluffypony;and easy to adapt 723472;1403103087;mike_c;so.. you're saying you'll run it ;) 723473;1403103096;mike_c;seeds.fluffypony.org 723474;1403103099;fluffypony;lol 723475;1403103111;fluffypony;if someone gets the source code working I'll gladly throw it on a box 723476;1403103140;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.065 = 1.105 BTC [-] 723477;1403103199;mike_c;core dev? any spare time to port to altcoin-seeder? 723478;1403103244;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 723479;1403103254;thestringpuller;;;ticker 723480;1403103256;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 607.11, Best ask: 608.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.84000, Last trade: 608.95, 24 hour volume: 8276.71700325, 24 hour low: 592.7, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 607.271648243 723481;1403103256;gribble;Current Blocks: 306507 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1940 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 3 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None 723482;1403103444;Mats_cd03;lol 723483;1403104390;punkman;that was a good pedicure, now I need a haircut 723484;1403104479;punkman;damn barber retired, gotta find a new one 723485;1403104479;chetty;http://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-rule-on-limiting-first-amendment/ 723486;1403104480;assbot;» Supreme Court Agrees to Rule On Limiting First Amendment Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! 723487;1403104847;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 206 @ 0.0289003 = 5.9535 BTC [-] 723488;1403104900;mircea_popescu;punkman i hate it when that happens 723489;1403105072;nubbins`;i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now 723490;1403105099;nubbins`;sometimes it turns out terrible :D 723491;1403105421;Naphex;nubbins`: why would somebody cut their own hair? 723492;1403105442;nubbins`;what an odd question 723493;1403105463;nubbins`;why would anyone do anything for themselves? 723494;1403105488;punkman;it's one of those things you can't do very well on your own 723495;1403105488;Naphex;yes but why not just pay someone to do it 723496;1403105500;Naphex;you don't have to pay attention and maybe you get a sweet skull massage :) 723497;1403105550;punkman;Naphex, I cut them myself last couple of times, with a little help from the girl, since the barber is not around 723498;1403105609;punkman;my biggest problem is the shitty shampoo everyone has 723499;1403105610;mircea_popescu;nubbins` sucks his own cock, eats his own cooking, he's a solipsist. 723500;1403105615;punkman;and they use too much of it too 723501;1403105646;Naphex;:)) 723502;1403105790;asciilifeform;i know plenty of people who cut their own hair. 723503;1403105798;asciilifeform;usually with electric razor. 723504;1403105816;Naphex;anything with electric razor or bald doesn't count:P 723505;1403106082;mircea_popescu;Naphex wears a pompadour. 723506;1403106089;mircea_popescu;I SEEN IT 723507;1403106225;chetty;we are on to hair cuts? what happened to the fingernail polish, ladies? 723508;1403106238;nubbins`;if i could suck my own cock i wouldn't be wasting my time on irc 723509;1403106247;fluffypony;nubbins`: you'd be on TV? 723510;1403106250;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.0289004 = 0.6358 BTC [+] 723511;1403106252;nubbins`;heh 723512;1403106260;nubbins`;mp, i think that's not the first time you've called me that 723513;1403106276;mircea_popescu;what rly ? 723514;1403106294;nubbins`;maybe. not that surprising i guess 723515;1403106299;mircea_popescu;chetty http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Charles_Dana_Gibson00.jpg 723516;1403106319;nubbins`;Naphex: i don't pay someone else to cut my hair for the same reason i don't pay someone else to cook my food 723517;1403106331;mircea_popescu;what, never ? 723518;1403106343;nubbins`;nah, just generally 723519;1403106403;nubbins`;me going to a barber for a haircut would make as much sense as going to a restaurant for a bowl of cereal 723520;1403106482;mircea_popescu;very small head ? 723521;1403106556;nubbins`;bike helmet says XXL 723522;1403106773;thestringpuller;;;ident 723523;1403106773;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None 723524;1403106826;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-18/putin-advisor-proposes-anti-dollar-alliance-halt-us-foreign-aggression 723525;1403106827;assbot;Putin Advisor Proposes "Anti-Dollar Alliance" To Halt US Aggression Abroad | Zero Hedge 723526;1403106854;mircea_popescu;http://www.listafirme.ro/polimedia-srl-22530016/ 723527;1403106864;mircea_popescu;check out graph. to teh moonz! 723528;1403106940;mircea_popescu;;;bc,stats 723529;1403106944;gribble;Current Blocks: 306518 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1929 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15413140721.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.48876 723530;1403106956;mircea_popescu;nuts. 723531;1403107061;Naphex;18:24 <+nubbins`> i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now 723532;1403107061;Naphex;18:24 -!- mjr_1 [~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186] has joined #bitcoin-assets 723533;1403107061;Naphex;18:24 <+nubbins`> sometimes it turns out terrible :D 723534;1403107078;*;nubbins` nods 723535;1403107099;nubbins`;and then i can't even fix it because i throw out all my scissors and clippers when i'm done :( 723536;1403107121;nubbins`;unlike a barber shop, where you can come in the next day for a free tune-up if you don't like what they've done 723537;1403107226;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 27.09655160 BTC to 9`095 shares, 297928 satoshi per share 723538;1403107348;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02033915 = 0.6102 BTC [-] {7} 723539;1403107349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69867315 BTC to 9`095 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 723540;1403107409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 457 @ 0.01949056 = 8.9072 BTC [-] {13} 723541;1403107633;mircea_popescu;;;seen korbman 723542;1403107633;gribble;korbman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: or else I wouldn't be on here haha :P 723543;1403107743;Mats_cd03;chetty: nails in da coffin 723544;1403107754;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/dattank-mining-any-chip-any-hardware-any-currency.330080/page-4#post-7067314 << is this guy actually using the dot to represent scalars (ie, as opposed to vectors) or wtf notation is that 723545;1403107754;assbot;DatTank Mining: any chip, any hardware, any currency | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk 723546;1403107791;mircea_popescu;first derivative ? 723547;1403107869;fluffypony;still a better post than Jimmothy's comment on GPG 723548;1403107897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.06329633 = 2.5319 BTC [-] {4} 723549;1403107922;mircea_popescu;no argument but im fucking curious, it makes no sense 723550;1403108148;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: with 30k usd profit, it is not too adventurous a guess that polimedia does not house mpex ? 723551;1403108160;mircea_popescu;course not 723552;1403108324;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00082981 = 5.5299 BTC [+] {2} 723553;1403108617;punkman;Fun fact: out of 10310 bitbets, only 313 have lost money betting on the winning side, and only 100 of those had a weight of 10k 723554;1403108633;punkman;*more than 10k 723555;1403108894;mircea_popescu;and total value lost ? 723556;1403108900;punkman;1.55 BTC 723557;1403108926;mircea_popescu;heh. out of 10k. 723558;1403108933;punkman;pretty good 723559;1403108940;mircea_popescu;whoa uspo cancelled redskins trademark ?! 723560;1403108941;mircea_popescu;bwahgah 723561;1403109368;mircea_popescu;o look, south africa actually uses the ancient dce concept. nao i don't need to fumble trying to explain to people what domicile means anymoar! just reference south african law! 723562;1403109372;mircea_popescu;thank you internets 723563;1403109373;punkman;another tidbit: 52.3 % of bets picked the winning side, with total gain of 2644 BTC 723564;1403109386;mircea_popescu;total net gain ? 723565;1403109390;punkman;yes 723566;1403109400;mircea_popescu;interesting. 723567;1403109424;punkman;total amount in 9393 BTC, gain 2633 BTC 723568;1403109425;mircea_popescu;punkman you gonna collect all this in a blog post ? 723569;1403109434;punkman;it will be in the app 723570;1403109438;mircea_popescu;and what's average time ? 723571;1403109546;fluffypony;heh 723572;1403109548;fluffypony;we're cool that way 723573;1403109604;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I still use DCE when drawing up an MoU for a freelancer in another country 723574;1403109606;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00082842 = 26.2195 BTC [-] {3} 723575;1403109607;fluffypony;hard habit to break 723576;1403109630;mircea_popescu;i thought it was mostly forgotten as a legal term cca 1898 or something 723577;1403109631;moiety;ah chicago http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chicago-nuns-take-strip-club-to-court-for-raucous-music-used-condoms-and-neon-lights-9545855.html 723578;1403109631;assbot;Chicago nuns take strip club to court for 'raucous music, used condoms and neon lights' - Americas - World - The Independent 723579;1403109635;benkay;dce? 723580;1403109662;mircea_popescu;benkay http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-28/ grep domicilium 723581;1403109663;assbot;How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business 723582;1403109683;fluffypony;benkay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domicilium_citandi_et_executandi 723583;1403109683;assbot;Domicilium citandi et executandi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 723584;1403109692;mircea_popescu;anyway, imo the fiat approach is naive. 723585;1403109869;fluffypony;everyone seems to be doing it lately 723586;1403109876;fluffypony;valuing things entirely in fiat 723587;1403109902;fluffypony;and then almost as an afterthought "ohey, fundraising is in Bitcoin and so are dividend payments" 723588;1403109911;mircea_popescu;yeah, that's totally a good reason :D 723589;1403109933;fluffypony;lol 723590;1403109935;mircea_popescu;what i mean is specifically this : that the construction of recourse and remedy on the infrastructure of fiat is not going to work. 723591;1403109950;mircea_popescu;if it were going to work, fiat-based intl merchants wouldn't have such a fucking headache. 723592;1403109963;mircea_popescu;consider the earlier case described by altucher. 723593;1403109983;mircea_popescu;why did "bill" and everyone else involved seem to think that once the 10mn is wired, that's it, the fraudster won ? 723594;1403109991;mircea_popescu;why, specifically because the fiat method does not work. 723595;1403110093;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899789 = 0.69 BTC [-] 723596;1403110095;fluffypony;I agree with that - it was more to show that personal liability is always an option on the fiat side (reckless trading etc.), so this idea that you can burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one is also flawed 723597;1403110105;fluffypony;because that's the other thing that seems to be big, especially on the forums 723598;1403110112;fluffypony;"I can show business registration papers so therefore" 723599;1403110118;mircea_popescu;depends if you make a business of it or not. 723600;1403110122;fluffypony;like registering a business in and of itself makes it flawless 723601;1403110131;mircea_popescu;if you do, you can. if you're random joe blow you can not, but then again this stuff is not for you anyway, 723602;1403110137;fluffypony;yep 723603;1403110152;asciilifeform;burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one << interesting historical degenerate case: russia during lenin's 'NEP' - 20s - folks would close a firm immediately prior to tax day, open new one the day after with same assets 723604;1403110153;benkay;"CAN I HAVE BITCOINZ NOA?" << lol 723605;1403110161;mircea_popescu;so it's really a blind alley : those on whom it'd work are probably the same set that think "bitcoin is bad" or w/e 723606;1403110190;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform and even so soviet tax collection was better than the tsar's. 723607;1403110194;asciilifeform;('nep' was an experiment with limited 'backslide' into capitalism) 723608;1403110234;asciilifeform;result was a miniature preview of the 'roaring '90s' 723609;1403110248;mircea_popescu;which brings an interestin point. 723610;1403110269;punkman;mircea_popescu: average time from winning bet placement to resolution is 42 days 723611;1403110272;mircea_popescu;i wasn't watching at the time, but did ayone in the early 90s/late 80s say hey, lenin's nep previewed what'll happen here ? 723612;1403110277;mircea_popescu;punkman ty! 723613;1403110282;asciilifeform;oh sure they did 723614;1403110295;asciilifeform;plenty of folks knew exactly how it would roll. 723615;1403110306;mircea_popescu;;;calc (2633 / 9393) ** (42/365) 723616;1403110306;gribble;0.863856328733 723617;1403110311;mircea_popescu;86% pa. 723618;1403110427;fluffypony;btw benkay - http://stealth.openwall.net/xSports/shocker.c 723619;1403110431;fluffypony;docker breakout PoC 723620;1403110466;punkman;9393 was only the winners' input btw 723621;1403110469;benkay;"don't run strange" 723622;1403110497;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/nsa-spiegel-snowden-14-0618.pdf << 200 pgs. of new crapolade 723623;1403110580;benkay;crapolades 723624;1403110586;benkay;accocraps 723625;1403110608;benkay;derpocalypse 723626;1403110642;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0008269 = 16.9515 BTC [-] {3} 723627;1403110682;asciilifeform;all the good bits carefully censored out. 723628;1403110745;chetty;http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Graffiti-Suspect-Francisco-Canseco-Tagged-Courtroom-263528431.html 723629;1403110746;assbot;Brazen Graffiti Suspect Tagged Courtroom: Officials | NBC 7 San Diego 723630;1403110964;benkay;http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/#footnote_1_55053 // not strong, someday smart. 723631;1403110965;assbot;People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 723632;1403111280;*;chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// "- I suppose youve never learned of the law that protects peoples rights and propety" 723633;1403111296;chetty;goes so nice with theft of redskins trademark 723634;1403111360;asciilifeform;as i understand, not quite stolen yet - just some of the bolts holding it down removed. 723635;1403111369;asciilifeform;there are still state-level trademarks, afaik 723636;1403111549;chetty;the states stand up so well to the feds these days 723637;1403111774;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/48WRuJ6,W7nuzd8#0 723638;1403111775;assbot;turdomatic - Imgur 723639;1403111779;asciilifeform;^ choice turdlets 723640;1403111881;punkman;asciilifeform: what's that 723641;1403111902;asciilifeform;punkman: snippets from the new spiegel collection 723642;1403112196;chetty;asciilifeform, greping for ips? wish I had some time for funs 723643;1403112197;Naphex;mircea_popescu: lol http://fundatiabitcoin.ro/ 723644;1403112197;assbot;Fundatia Bitcoin Romania | Sustine Bitcoin 723645;1403112225;fluffypony;lol 723646;1403112257;asciilifeform;Radu Georgescu << gecad ? 723647;1403112264;Naphex;yes 723648;1403112277;Naphex;or coinzone or whatever 723649;1403113082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 90 @ 0.01979875 = 1.7819 BTC [+] {2} 723650;1403113143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06550729 = 0.6551 BTC [-] {4} 723651;1403113265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.06323412 = 1.5809 BTC [-] {5} 723652;1403113570;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00082375 = 14.498 BTC [-] {4} 723653;1403113734;mthreat;asciilifeform: that nsa-spiegel-snowden PDF is pretty interesting. It seems like Germany is basically part of the "five eyes" countries, which would make it "six eyes" 723654;1403113749;asciilifeform;mthreat: the bnd thing is old hat. 723655;1403113798;asciilifeform;muppet state. 723656;1403113819;asciilifeform;(not to be confused with 'puppet state') 723657;1403114044;benkay; incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? // video ho in the rap industry 723658;1403114642;benkay;punkman: that's lookin all right man 723659;1403115110;mike_c;yeah, very cool. when do we get to play with it? 723660;1403115644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00082603 = 4.0062 BTC [+] 723661;1403115734;davout;how does this guy get resolved if the auction is kept private? --> http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 723662;1403115734;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 1.39 B (58%) on Yes, 0.99 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 92`453 (100`000 to 1) 723663;1403115888;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.0635 = 2.8575 BTC [+] 723664;1403115949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06349999 = 0.762 BTC [-] {3} 723665;1403116290;los_pantalones;does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ? 723666;1403116301;los_pantalones;i was always under the impression that they didn't have control of that 723667;1403116358;asciilifeform;los_pantalones: dpr might be sitting on a stake as we speak, coughing up the keys 723668;1403116406;los_pantalones;hmm 723669;1403116412;los_pantalones;color me skeptical 723670;1403116461;mike_c;possiblity? SR coins can be sold now. DPR coins can't be sold until conviction. 723671;1403116482;mike_c;ianal 723672;1403116486;los_pantalones;yes, i think that is true 723673;1403116492;los_pantalones;but still only theoretically 723674;1403116525;fluffypony;that's the way I understood it too 723675;1403116557;los_pantalones;fluffypony you understood that was the process or that the feds do not have the private keys 723676;1403116558;los_pantalones;or both 723677;1403116568;fluffypony;both 723678;1403116572;los_pantalones;tyvm 723679;1403116578;los_pantalones;i thought i was crazy 723680;1403116602;fluffypony;they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench 723681;1403116628;fluffypony;Joe "The Plumber" Kazinsci will work his wrench magic on DPR 723682;1403116641;los_pantalones;ha, idk, i don't doubt they will try 723683;1403116647;los_pantalones;but if it comes AFTER the conviction 723684;1403116744;los_pantalones;why would he care 723685;1403116755;los_pantalones;"welcome to jail for life" 723686;1403116931;FabianB;$traded 723687;1403116931;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 723688;1403117035;benkay;;;later tell BingoBoingo herbi's back? 723689;1403117035;gribble;The operation succeeded. 723690;1403117412;chetty;http://www.coindesk.com/list-possible-silk-road-bitcoin-bidders-allegedly-leaked-us-marshals/ 723691;1403117413;assbot;List of Possible Silk Road Bitcoin Bidders Allegedly Leaked by US Marshals 723692;1403117563;asciilifeform;'Avarus, Inc. (we, us, our) was incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware on September 20, 2010. The Company was originally organized as a blank check shell Company to investigate and acquire a target company or business seeking the perceived advantages of being a publicly held corporation.' << lol! 723693;1403118501;trinque;chetty: amateurs 723694;1403119286;davout;the list is genuine 723695;1403119290;punkman;mike_c: fresh out of the oven https://bitbucket.org/abfg/bitbet.py/src 723696;1403119291;assbot;abfg / bitbet.py / source / — Bitbucket 723697;1403119438;mike_c;nice 723698;1403119449;punkman;no it's 15kb of pure horror 723699;1403119456;kakobrekla;title = AttrMap(Filler(Text(['BITBET.PY', '\n', 'DELUXE EDITION'],align='center'),valign='middle'), 'banner') < WIN 723700;1403119491;kakobrekla;only amazing edition can top that 723701;1403119491;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 723702;1403119509;punkman;there's some work to get to AMAZING 723703;1403119820;punkman;why isn't the hashbang working, how do I linux? 723704;1403120396;mike_c;don't you need a space? 723705;1403120403;mike_c;#! /usr/whatever 723706;1403120453;mike_c;doesn't look like it, ignore me. 723707;1403120619;punkman;oops forgot chmod +x 723708;1403120646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00082697 = 7.7322 BTC [+] {2} 723709;1403120840;nubbins`;heh 723710;1403120845;nubbins`;nanotube, first name on the list 723711;1403120912;Naphex;so there is a list of bidders 723712;1403120914;Naphex;pretty interesting 723713;1403120921;Naphex;anyone did any intel on the bidders yet? 723714;1403121030;thestringpuller;nanotube is an associate professor 723715;1403121034;thestringpuller;never really knew his real name 723716;1403121117;Naphex;anyone got the full bcc? 723717;1403121139;los_pantalones;i think that was the full list 723718;1403121143;los_pantalones;don't think there were any bcc 723719;1403122171;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06943859 = 1.2499 BTC [+] {2} 723720;1403122248;los_pantalones;!up 1337 723721;1403122277;FabianB;1 != l 723722;1403122286;los_pantalones;!up 1337 723723;1403122310;chetty;!up l337 723724;1403122316;l337;oh, thanks chetty 723725;1403122321;chetty;yw 723726;1403122331;l337;why couldn't you do it, los_pantalones? 723727;1403122348;FabianB;because 1 != l 723728;1403122365;l337;ah, didn't notice that 723729;1403122468;l337;regarding this http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/ 723730;1403122470;assbot;People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 723731;1403122492;l337;is MP pricing bitcoin @ $10k, did I get that right? 723732;1403122521;chetty;well he is making a point about not selling cheap if you got em to hold 723733;1403122655;chetty;I dont think we actually have very good price signals atm 723734;1403122674;bitstein;We don't. 723735;1403122687;l337;what would constitute a good price signal tho? 723736;1403123212;punkman;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909791 723737;1403123212;assbot;Code Spaces data and backups deleted by hackers | Hacker News 723738;1403123264;punkman;clown-based backups 723739;1403123407;fluffypony;"Our backups were powered by Usagi" 723740;1403123411;fluffypony;I wish that was in there :( 723741;1403123455;punkman;better link http://beta.slashdot.org/story/203503 723742;1403123456;assbot;Code Spaces Hosting Shutting Down After Attacker Deletes All Data - Slashdot 723743;1403123493;davout;los_pantalones Naphex i have 21 more e-mail addresses in mine 723744;1403123582;los_pantalones;oh, fo realz? why didn't they get dox'd with the rest ? 723745;1403123621;los_pantalones;and are you bidding or just asked them a question ? 723746;1403123770;los_pantalones;sorry, per'aps that was something i shouldn't have asked 723747;1403123887;chetty;davout, +1 spy skills 723748;1403123914;davout;there are a few addresses that have no associated name, a couple folks that lead to multiple google hits 723749;1403123927;davout;also no, i'm not bidding, and i didn't inquire 723750;1403123989;los_pantalones;oh, got it 723751;1403124062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16541 @ 0.00082894 = 13.7115 BTC [+] 723752;1403124163;chetty;!up l337 723753;1403124380;FabianB;l337: if you lurk a few month you'll know better 723754;1403124408;l337;will do 723755;1403124490;FabianB;l337: if you don't look short-time you might realize it's not current fiat/btc price that matters 723756;1403124547;l337;I seem to know that already, it's the long-term value I am interested in 723757;1403124780;fluffypony;long-term I already know the price of Bitcoin 723758;1403124790;fluffypony;by the time we hit 2030 723759;1403124796;fluffypony;1 Bitcoin will = 1 Bitcoin 723760;1403124799;fluffypony;you heard it here first 723761;1403124801;fluffypony;tell your kids 723762;1403124806;Mats_cd03;shit, nigga 723763;1403124824;fluffypony;Mats_cd03: I'm a regular prophet 723764;1403124842;fluffypony;;;8ball will 1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin by the time we hit 2030? 723765;1403124842;gribble;One would be wise to think so. 723766;1403124851;fluffypony;even gribble knows. 723767;1403124859;FabianB;too many miners don't 723768;1403124921;l337;it must be painful spending it once the dollar goes to shit 723769;1403124979;chetty;whats a dollar? 723770;1403125016;jurov;hi all, any news around X.IDIFF.JUN? 723771;1403125029;mike_c;no settlement announcement yet 723772;1403125036;mike_c;i assume that means it will be capped. 723773;1403125044;FabianB;$depth X.IDIFF.JUN 723774;1403125044;empyex;FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Bids: 723775;1403125045;empyex;FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Asks: 4806 @ 0.01189900 100000 @ 0.01190000 1 @ 0.01200000 723776;1403125070;mike_c;dangerous trading on settlement day. 723777;1403125076;davout;chetty: "whats a dollar?" <<< just a letter away from a collar 723778;1403125089;fluffypony;chetty: it's like Bitcoin but centralised and it has a random annual inflation set by this centralised issuer. also no block reward, lame. 723779;1403125116;jurov;yes, it's frozen on coinbr and I would like to close it today, tmrw will be mostly afk 723780;1403125137;mike_c;mircea_popescu hasn't said anything 723781;1403125148;jurov;that's why i'm asking 723782;1403125153;mike_c;just highlighting him :) 723783;1403125170;*;jurov feels derpy nao 723784;1403125188;asciilifeform;;;later tell mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_DORLTWLU 723785;1403125188;assbot;Nassim Taleb on Anti-Fragility - YouTube 723786;1403125188;gribble;The operation succeeded. 723787;1403125247;asciilifeform;^ finally forced myself to read that book - not a fan. despite not really disagreeing with the arguments (to the extent the man bothered to make arguments) 723788;1403125295;asciilifeform;it is very reminiscent of the 'atheism books' one finds in u.s. shops. if you were never a christian, they're a total snore. 723789;1403125351;asciilifeform;herr taleb alternates between ruminating on his personal sense of brilliance and excellent pedigree, and... punching a boxer's bag. how much fun to watch a man punch a bag? 723790;1403125352;jurov;;;calc 4250217919*2.9 723791;1403125352;gribble;12325631965.1 723792;1403125375;jurov;def capped 723793;1403125391;mike_c;i would hope so. diff flipped on the 18th though. 723794;1403125406;jurov;did it? lol 723795;1403125421;mike_c;but since it hasn't been announced yet, i assume capped. 723796;1403125437;mike_c;(and i may or may not be talking my book here) 723797;1403125790;fluffypony;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656861.msg7383469#msg7383469 723798;1403125790;assbot;CRYPTNEY- Bringing Crypto Currency to the Masses! 723799;1403125795;fluffypony;"If you are on my investors mailing list this is the email number. Please cross check. 723800;1403125795;fluffypony;To confirm email please match numbers. 723801;1403125795;fluffypony;Private investor email #134252" 723802;1403125802;fluffypony;lol 723803;1403125819;fluffypony;who needs gee pee gee when you have sekrit kodez on forumz 723804;1403126032;mike_c;if only there were a way to verify who wrote an email.. 723805;1403126100;fluffypony;mike_c: I know 723806;1403126106;punkman;yo dawg I heard u like difficulty: "The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y. " 723807;1403126107;fluffypony;it would be a marvellous invention 723808;1403126109;punkman;http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/06/18/how-to-disincentivize-large-bitcoin-mining-pools/ 723809;1403126110;assbot;How to Disincentivize Large Bitcoin Mining Pools 723810;1403126111;fluffypony;someone should add that 723811;1403126746;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00082643 = 8.099 BTC [-] 723812;1403126814;Mats_cd03;http://youtu.be/jaRsJvZgg2s 723813;1403126814;assbot;ZHU - Faded (ODESZA Remix) - YouTube 723814;1403126940;dignork;punkman: this proposition does not solve anything really. gigahash will run his private servers to solve the second puzzle, happily keeping 99% of hashing power. 723815;1403126968;punkman;I'm sure it's braindamaged 723816;1403126980;punkman;too long, didn't read 723817;1403127063;dignork;tl;dr version: we add another puzzle with controllable difficulty, which pool will have to solve, but it uses privkey, so he won't outsource it. 723818;1403127109;punkman;ah thx ;) 723819;1403127211;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/soundremedy/moby-almost-home-sound-remedy-remix 723820;1403127212;assbot;Moby - Almost Home (Sound Remedy Remix) by Sound Remedy on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 723821;1403127555;mircea_popescu; 9393 was only the winners' input btw << well yes. 723822;1403127569;mircea_popescu;* chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// << the funny thingbeing... i don't even drink that much tea :D 723823;1403127593;mircea_popescu; ^ choice turdlets << ahahaha the ips are the lulzy part. 723824;1403127639;mircea_popescu; tre' sa fie si puletii nostri in rind cu puletii lor, nu se poa'. 723825;1403127783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.065 = 0.91 BTC [-] 723826;1403127900;Naphex;mircea_popescu: omu numa prostii observa si invata vad ca 723827;1403127901;Naphex;:) 723828;1403127963;Naphex;at some point maybe people will wise up and stop comming into bitcoin like its hipster web3.0 723829;1403128078;mircea_popescu;ok so believe it or not, trilema credits just had its first hash collision. two guys with very reasonable emails + their ips hash as the same thing. who knew. 723830;1403128129;Naphex;the cookie hashing scheme seemed a bit lacking 723831;1403128143;mircea_popescu;Naphex not gonna happen. remember patriciu thinking he's going to be rich by copying berlusconi (adevarul), 723832;1403128150;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00082578 = 6.6888 BTC [-] 723833;1403128150;mircea_popescu;or that sad sad mic.ro debacle ? 723834;1403128156;mircea_popescu;;;google moartea ca o veste buna 723835;1403128157;gribble;Octombrie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Lifespiel pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; La mormantul lui ARSENIE BOCA. Parintele a lasat cu limba de ...: i saw. wise decision. << haha why, did it make you moneyz ? 723892;1403129383;mike_c;it might have :) 723893;1403129390;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: No, but I assume it costs a lot of sweat and treasure... and equity 723894;1403129393;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: who needs gee pee gee when you have sekrit kodez on forumz << epic lol 723895;1403129403;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it costs money. 723896;1403129416;mircea_popescu;you gotta pay all sorts of people, and generally upfront fees. 723897;1403129430;mircea_popescu;this is why corps that blow a round and surivive are so rar. 723898;1403129432;mircea_popescu;e 723899;1403129460;mircea_popescu;also exactly where the vc wants them : once they're in the ring they pretty much gotta close, no matter what the termsheet. 723900;1403129467;mircea_popescu;the other side of course has no such constraints. 723901;1403129568;mircea_popescu;"Confirmado: no hay precio para el dlar. Nadie vende, solo compran a $ 12.30". 723902;1403129570;TheNewDeal;called that xdiff june was underrated 723903;1403129574;mircea_popescu;the peso looks well in trouble lol 723904;1403129643;TheNewDeal;which peso? so many 723905;1403129684;mircea_popescu;argentine 723906;1403129751;mircea_popescu;this country is getting so fucken sweet... 723907;1403129760;benkay;lol except for the machinery 723908;1403129773;benkay;how on earth are you supposed to run a machine shop when they hold your mills at the border? 723909;1403129806;mircea_popescu;"Overall, it provides a gentle fix to the recent GHash fiasco" 723910;1403129807;mircea_popescu;derp. 723911;1403129825;mircea_popescu;i guess scammers and academics will never stfu are they 723912;1403129848;benkay;seriously mircea_popescu how can one have a good time without CNC machinery? 723913;1403129887;mircea_popescu;why without ? 723914;1403129911;benkay;how to get a big-boy mill into ars? 723915;1403129940;mircea_popescu;The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y. 723916;1403129948;mircea_popescu;how the fuck can current miners preserve ths investment lmao 723917;1403129957;mircea_popescu;benkay you import it, like anything else ? 723918;1403129967;benkay;except that it gets stopped at the border. 723919;1403130018;mircea_popescu;"This mechanism is easy to devise following a community discussion that establishes the principles" 723920;1403130021;mircea_popescu;holy hell already. 723921;1403130027;mircea_popescu;benkay who told you this ? and why ? 723922;1403130090;mircea_popescu;anyway, gotta broadway nao. laters. 723923;1403130112;benkay;some argentinian. to keep me from doing things? 723924;1403130123;TheNewDeal;you can't import cnc equipment into argentina? 723925;1403130157;benkay;the word i got was that large, tech-heavy equipment gets stalled at the border. 723926;1403130168;TheNewDeal;who's going to run a cnc shop? I work on cnc equipment at the moment 723927;1403130169;benkay;but i'd just looooooove to plop down 600k to test the theory. 723928;1403130190;benkay;it's on the list of things to buy, TheNewDeal . 723929;1403130192;TheNewDeal;we could import it in parts and then bujild it 723930;1403130205;TheNewDeal;you* 723931;1403130210;benkay;hue 723932;1403130220;TheNewDeal;ewe 723933;1403130247;dignork;just funny: http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/18/bitcoin-auction/ 723934;1403130248;assbot;US Marshall Accidentally Reply-Alls Anonymous Bitcoin Auction Bidders In Email Fiasco | TechCrunch 723935;1403130337;TheNewDeal;noooo way 723936;1403130392;TheNewDeal;oh that's lame, they showed the email with blacked out names 723937;1403130425;dignork;TheNewDeal: dunno who blacked the names, somebody got the full list though 723938;1403130442;TheNewDeal;techcrunch did 723939;1403130467;dignork;usms later said that these are not bidders, just people that where asking for clarifications 723940;1403130468;TheNewDeal;or at least that is what the article claims 723941;1403130542;TheNewDeal;in other news, "US Marshal only spelled with one L" 723942;1403130589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00082459 = 4.2351 BTC [-] 723943;1403130640;asciilifeform;benkay: i hear they'll let your machine through if you bring it as... carry-on baggage 723944;1403130879;TheNewDeal;good luck with that 723945;1403130907;TheNewDeal;you're asking for many questions from people who will be very suspicious and will not understand your answers 723946;1403130973;*;asciilifeform carried a fat oscilloscope and ominous-looking crate with sample boards through u.s, german, romanian customs; nobody blinked an eye 723947;1403131021;asciilifeform;i suppose if your cargo looks immediately valuable, you might have problems. 723948;1403131072;TheNewDeal;thats ridiculous 723949;1403131089;TheNewDeal;o-scope was phat though 723950;1403131136;jurov;you should have painted it as doomsday device 723951;1403131152;TheNewDeal;nuclear warning 723952;1403131171;asciilifeform;take analog scope, glue fins. 723953;1403131199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.068 = 3.468 BTC [+] {2} 723954;1403131216;TheNewDeal;how expensive is an analog scope? 723955;1403131231;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: if you make the right friends - free. 723956;1403131261;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: if you want a new unit with reasonable bandwidth - a few $K. 723957;1403131282;TheNewDeal;thats what I was seeing when I looked it up. quite amazed 723958;1403131312;asciilifeform;it'll put you over the weight limit for most airlines, though. 723959;1403131321;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06987478 = 0.6987 BTC [+] 723960;1403131396;TheNewDeal;50 pounds?!? 723961;1403131403;asciilifeform;approx 723962;1403131411;TheNewDeal;whaaaaat 723963;1403131433;asciilifeform;varies. 723964;1403131440;TheNewDeal;thats ridiculous 723965;1403131491;asciilifeform;analogue scope has its virtues. as i understand, most tech types own both kinds. 723966;1403131574;TheNewDeal;what do they have in university labs? I always assumed those ones were very inexpensive 723967;1403131588;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: usually chinese digital scopes, like mine 723968;1403131599;TheNewDeal;ahhhh 723969;1403131603;asciilifeform;depends on the uni 723970;1403131622;TheNewDeal;of course 723971;1403131632;asciilifeform;mine must've had a good payola year, because they had costly hp units 723972;1403131785;TheNewDeal;oOo 723973;1403132045;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/hacker-infects-synology-storage-devices-makes-off-with-620000-in-dogecoin/ 723974;1403132046;assbot;Hacker infects Synology storage devices, makes off with $620,000 in Dogecoin | Ars Technica 723975;1403132088;TheNewDeal;ascii why did you say that buproprion is useless? 723976;1403132106;asciilifeform;TheNewDeal: useless is perhaps wrong word 723977;1403132145;asciilifeform;pharmacologically weak, like 'nonalcoholic' beer, rather. 723978;1403132167;asciilifeform;you can get 'real' dopamine reuptake inhibitors - but in dark alley, not pharmacy. 723979;1403132205;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2Q980S5.txt ) 723980;1403132205;BingoBoingo;!b 4 723981;1403132261;BingoBoingo;I'm telling you that cholorine atom on the ring is the only thing holding it back from greatness and success in the back alley 723982;1403132307;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: snip it, add a methyl, ---> methcathinone 723983;1403132320;asciilifeform;(brief career as antidepressant in ussr) 723984;1403132323;TheNewDeal;what is the way to rate a dopamine reuptake inhibitor 723985;1403132328;asciilifeform;now a kitchen favourite in usa 723986;1403132427;asciilifeform;*snip methyl 723987;1403132496;BingoBoingo;It's really amazing how many catecholemine affecting drugs are merely the base chemical with various things snipped or tacked on... 723988;1403132496;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 723989;1403132594;BingoBoingo;Entirely different effects built from the same core https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propanolol#mediaviewer/File:Propranolol-skeletal.svg 723990;1403132594;assbot;Propranolol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 723991;1403132718;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/JlsaEDI << drug for ThePoor (tm) 723992;1403132718;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 723993;1403132743;BingoBoingo;lol 723994;1403133008;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://i34.tinypic.com/34sqzx2.jpg 723995;1403133204;TheNewDeal;you two are ridiculous 723996;1403134000;jurov;dudes and gals, you were really in bashful mood recently 723997;1403134006;jurov;22 quotes added 723998;1403134312;Naphex;"The Amazon phone is finally here: Amazon unveils the Fire Phone" -> http://boygeniusreport.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/bgr-amazon-smartphone-kindle-fire-phone.jpg?w=952&h=575&crop=1 723999;1403134323;Naphex;so.. iphone with windows ui, got it 724000;1403134331;Naphex;lousy name for a product though, fire phone 724001;1403134357;mike_c;i think amazon runs custom droid builds 724002;1403134483;jurov;!up justlurking 724003;1403134514;jurov;!up dignork 724004;1403134546;punkman;but jurov he only wanted to lurk 724005;1403134562;justlurking;thanks jurov; I'm here pre-Yeshiva 724006;1403135592;BingoBoingo;justlurking: Another one of Pete's jews? 724007;1403135628;benkay;lol 724008;1403135630;TheNewDeal;lol 724009;1403135751;BingoBoingo;justlurking: You could do the thing I did, pick a silly name and then later find out you are stuck with it. 724010;1403135753;justlurking;probably? 724011;1403135811;benkay;that will definitely happen. 724012;1403135816;benkay;pick a name you like and use it. 724013;1403135862;justlurking;yep, starting my 6 month indoctrination thanks to pete 724014;1403136189;TheNewDeal;I was actually allowed to change my name :D 724015;1403136338;mike_c;tredos something something? 724016;1403136345;BingoBoingo;!up justlurking 724017;1403136438;BingoBoingo;;;google manul 724018;1403136439;gribble;Pallas's cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pallas's Cat Manul - YouTube: ; Manul – the Cat that Time Forgot ~ The Ark In Space: 724019;1403136567;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00082303 = 21.0696 BTC [-] {5} 724020;1403136602;TheNewDeal;so I was just reading about the sentencing of Sabu. does anyone know the first time a judge mandated a keylogger in the USSA? 724021;1403136617;BingoBoingo;That we know of... 724022;1403136651;TheNewDeal;what? 724023;1403136700;TheNewDeal;I was asking what was the first time you heard of that 724024;1403136715;BingoBoingo;The first time a keylogger was mandated may have come from one of those seekrit courts 724025;1403136731;BingoBoingo;You know like the ones that order those drone strikes 724026;1403136760;TheNewDeal;not really. never heard of a court mandated drone strike 724027;1403136803;BingoBoingo;Well, Obama's a lawyer so he just kind of holds these things himself 724028;1403136816;BingoBoingo;It's why BitBet is a better court 724029;1403136865;TheNewDeal;reading about it as we speak 724030;1403137087;moiety;http://i.imgur.com/qQn4C.jpg 724031;1403137143;TheNewDeal;manul!? 724032;1403137327;moiety;TheNewDeal: yeah i get a note when manul is mentioned so i just returned a picture.... like a manual manul bot, if you will :D 724033;1403137387;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0HF2694.txt ) 724034;1403137387;BingoBoingo;!b 1 724035;1403137636;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/01/patients-die/ 724036;1403137637;assbot;Medical Students Horrified to Learn that all Patients Die, Eventually | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 724037;1403137780;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/11/weight-loss-worms/ 724038;1403137781;assbot;Secret of Successful Weight Loss Clinic: Tape Worms | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 724039;1403137896;TheNewDeal;bingoboingo, that we weren't able to strike a deal on the difficulty had little to do with wording. More to do with you placing your bet later than I trying to sell my Yes bets 724040;1403137990;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Well, it was a simple disagreement in pricing. Particularly how to price these things. We both disagree on how to do it. 724041;1403138058;TheNewDeal;I think it's rather trivial to price them, but finding something that would make sense financially between the two of us was the difficult task 724042;1403138131;BingoBoingo;Well, there's also the problem whereing I lack the experience and reputation to feel comfortable selling a synthetic bet. 724043;1403138170;TheNewDeal;uncomfortable, it is *yoda voice* 724044;1403138214;BingoBoingo;Maybe if I MM'd MPOE options I'd feel comfortable offering a synthetic, but as a person who MM's ATC... 724045;1403138220;BingoBoingo;%book 724046;1403138225;atcbot;2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 50k@161 216k@160 500k@151 724047;1403138229;TheNewDeal;haha 724048;1403138342;BingoBoingo;Even though the circumstances in which the actual underlying couldn't cover the synthetic would have been exceedingly unlikely... Trading on an artificial weight would have set a bad precedent. 724049;1403138363;BingoBoingo;%ticker 724050;1403138364;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 161 Ask: 201 Last Price: 201 24h-Vol: 37k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 160 724051;1403138388;TheNewDeal;well you did offer the buyer (mike_c was it?) a discount on the price 724052;1403138392;TheNewDeal;which is essentially the same thing 724053;1403138527;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: Sure I offered a discount, and I tried offering you the same as well. A discount and a synthetic weight though are very different animals. 724054;1403138573;TheNewDeal;depending on the amount being purchased though 724055;1403138608;TheNewDeal;if you originally bet 1 btc, you could "get away with" selling .5 btc at double the timeweight 724056;1403138642;TheNewDeal;neglecting the 1% fee... 724057;1403138654;BingoBoingo;"get away with" at the cost of setting a horrible precedent 724058;1403138712;asciilifeform;sabu sentenced to keylogger << 2015: public urinator sentenced to toiletcam 724059;1403138723;TheNewDeal;hahahaha 724060;1403138858;BingoBoingo;!up Pierre_Rochard 724061;1403139265;punkman;;;view 724062;1403139267;gribble;#20792 Wed Jun 18 20:53:44 2014 punkman SELL 1.0 hour of tech support @ 0.02 BTC (Support for bitbet.py (https://bitbucket.org/abfg/bitbet.py) , Minor feature requests accommodated. While supplies last.) 724063;1403139311;punkman;hurr hurr 724064;1403139336;TheNewDeal;tech support 724065;1403139340;TheNewDeal;can you expand 724066;1403139356;punkman;getting it installed, usage, etc 724067;1403139396;TheNewDeal;did you develop it? 724068;1403139408;punkman;in a hurry 724069;1403139499;TheNewDeal;might have to hit you up with that later 724070;1403139568;TheNewDeal;;;rate punkman 0 bitbet.py developer, selling support 724071;1403139569;gribble;Error: Rating must be in the interval [-10, 10] and cannot be zero. 724072;1403139572;TheNewDeal;whaaat 724073;1403139589;TheNewDeal;haven't you heard of neutral gribble? 724074;1403139619;BingoBoingo;;;rate punkman 1 gambling software 724075;1403139620;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded. 724076;1403139744;TheNewDeal;;;rate punkman 1 bitbet.py developer, selling support 724077;1403139745;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded. 724078;1403139769;punkman;TheNewDeal: here's how it looks now: http://i.imgur.com/6mwsor1.png 724079;1403139796;TheNewDeal;yah I think bingoboingo was showing me outputs the other day 724080;1403139826;BingoBoingo;punkman: is this a whole new Bitbet.py 724081;1403139860;punkman;BingoBoingo: nothing to do with that old bitbets.py 724082;1403139875;BingoBoingo;punkman: Maybe give it a new name then... 724083;1403139893;BingoBoingo;TheNewDeal: I used the original 724084;1403139907;punkman;suggestions welcome, but levenshtein distance of 1 is good enough for me :P 724085;1403139968;TheNewDeal;here's a potential suggestion to ponder, we can talk about it more if I get back at you. Placing future bets to see how the pot changes 724086;1403139981;punkman;that's what it does 724087;1403139988;TheNewDeal;oh rery 724088;1403140014;TheNewDeal;it doesn't analyze only the current list of bets to date? 724089;1403140020;BingoBoingo;That's kinda the whole point of these tools 724090;1403140033;BingoBoingo;adding hypothetical future and past bets 724091;1403140078;BingoBoingo;Drugs http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/162417/1fing.jpg 724092;1403140096;BingoBoingo;Lead to http://gawker.com/teen-loses-finger-during-rave-keeps-going-because-bas-1592911313 724093;1403140096;assbot;Teen Loses Finger During Rave, Keeps Going Because "Bass Was Hard" 724094;1403140096;punkman;the "*me" bet in the screenshot is a hypothetical bet 724095;1403140225;TheNewDeal;ridiculous 724096;1403140238;moiety;i watched this program called "What Happens in Kavos" and it was all people like that. broken legs, ribs, noses but so wasted they either don't notice or don't feel it enough to do anything about it 724097;1403140291;BingoBoingo;Well, the right combinations of lights and sounds can be as dirorienting as the drugs 724098;1403140321;punkman;moiety: yeah that seems to be a common theme where brits go to vacation 724099;1403140480;moiety;so silly, why pay to get broken 724100;1403140556;BingoBoingo;Sometimes the fun in an activity comes from the potential for breaking, and the times people break reinforce the excitement. 724101;1403140679;BingoBoingo;http://www.newsweek.com/2014/06/27/steven-hatfills-strange-trip-accused-terrorist-medical-adventurer-255295.html 724102;1403141029;asciilifeform;;;google bruce ivings 724103;1403141030;gribble;Bruce Edwards Ivins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Affidavit in Support of Search Warrant - FindLaw Legal News: ; Long Term Housing Strategy - Bruce County, Ontario, Canada: ; Queers pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Fred Quimby and ancient evils pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: 724136;1403142092;asciilifeform;it's a great essay, but ought to have been named 'how to die to be rich' 724137;1403142118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0008261 = 1.8587 BTC [+] 724138;1403142145;BingoBoingo;Eh, details 724139;1403142160;asciilifeform;also ignores certain unpleasant realities: 724140;1403142163;asciilifeform;e.g. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#606983 724141;1403142163;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 724142;1403142247;decimation;http://www.isegoria.net/2014/06/the-chaos-wrought-by-progressive-education/ 724143;1403142249;assbot;The Chaos Wrought By Progressive Education « Isegoria 724144;1403142273;decimation;Everyone at our school knows who Dylan is. He comes and goes to lessons as he pleases, habitually swears at teachers, and is an accomplished playground bully. ... I was surprised to hear Dylan?s name announced. He had collected one of the largest amounts of ?reward stickers? in year seven, and was due to collect a prize. Many teachers, it turned out, had taken to bribing him with these stickers in a desperate attempt to appease his 724145;1403142274;decimation;unruliness. 724146;1403142349;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It turns out that the cure to an American "Liberal Arts" education is resenting the part where you live on dry noodles. 724147;1403142401;asciilifeform;plenty of engineers living on noodles. 724148;1403142410;asciilifeform;no longer monopoly of starving artists. 724149;1403142413;decimation;that kanzure dude is nuts 724150;1403142417;BingoBoingo;You also learn the color of the dandelion greens at their best if you are smart. 724151;1403142431;decimation;all the numbers I've see from the bay area companies show that senior engineers are making maybe $150k 724152;1403142453;decimation;when a 'house' costs 700-1000k, that's wave slavery 724153;1403142469;asciilifeform;decimation: kanzure is a friend of a good chum of mine. as i understand, he made 'fuck you money' in one of the last 'dotcom' bubbles and wanders around the world. 724154;1403142492;decimation;that's cool, but that's nothing to do with engineering salaries 724155;1403142521;decimation;Of course, there is a "power law" effect in these kinds of things - only the best guys make bank, the rest deminish exponentially 724156;1403142539;asciilifeform;i don't know him well. if you want to dispute his info, wake him up (he does - did? lurk here) 724157;1403142558;asciilifeform;;;google tournament market 724158;1403142558;gribble;The Man Who Wasn't There | Science Careers: ; Marketing your first-year soccer tournament - TourneyCentral: ; Five Keys to Marketing a New Soccer Tournament | The PTM Blog: (1 more message) 724159;1403142574;decimation;http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Salaries-E9079.htm 724160;1403142574;assbot;Google Salaries and Benefits | Glassdoor 724161;1403142576;asciilifeform;1st link 724162;1403142581;asciilifeform;see also greenspun. 724163;1403142612;asciilifeform;what a google grunt is paid is entirely uninteresting except in light of knowing what he pays to live 724164;1403142614;decimation;yeah, I was reading greenspun last night and I thought of you - his post about the low quality of rentals available to citizens 724165;1403142654;BingoBoingo;If I get this bezzel job I don't plan to pay more than $300.month to rent 724166;1403142667;asciilifeform;http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2009_02_13/caredit.a0900021 << recommended reading 724167;1403142668;assbot;The Man Who Wasn't There | Science Careers 724168;1403142710;asciilifeform;'One of various ways of organizing work that economists have identified, a tournament market "offers participants the chance of winning a big prize--an independent research career, tenure, a named chair, scientific renown, awards--through competition," writes Richard Freeman and co-authors. Tournament markets amplify "small differences in productivity into large differences in recognition and reward," Freeman an 724169;1403142711;asciilifeform;d co-authors continue. Academic science is only one such market; other familiar examples include rock music, professional sports, and national politics. ' 724170;1403142780;asciilifeform;i often say to people, that they should calculate their salary per minute of doing-something-they'd-rather-not 724171;1403142793;asciilifeform;e.g. if you have to drive a car to the plant, start the 'clock' from when you turn the ignition key 724172;1403142802;asciilifeform;and stop it when you come home and take off your shoes 724173;1403142845;asciilifeform;likewise, subtract any money you are forced to spend (e.g. google man must pay $50k/yr, say, to live within 2 hrs. drive of the plant) from your salary. 724174;1403142863;asciilifeform;then see who is rich, who is a pauper 724175;1403142887;decimation;people don't want to do those calculations - they know the truth and they don't want to face it 724176;1403142898;asciilifeform;there's a reason, for example, why e.g. a spammer will 'work 16 hours a day to make money while he sleeps' 724177;1403142927;asciilifeform;no car, no boss, no $1000 suits, no clock, etc 724178;1403142960;asciilifeform;mr. spam can live in a roach-infested hovel and actually keep 90% of his bread crumbs 724179;1403142967;asciilifeform;mr. google - not so much 724180;1403142971;BingoBoingo;In the location I'm looking at $3.2 k/year rents a ten minute walk from work, no roomates, because they are horrible for opsec 724181;1403143048;decimation;what I would like an "economist" to explain to me is why we subject science and engineering to such high competition but professions like collecting welfare, teaching k-12, gov't employee, etc are subject to no pressure whatsoever 724182;1403143075;decimation;why do those people deserve to be sheltered from the harshness of reality? 724183;1403143078;asciilifeform;decimation: the pressure is moved to the queue in front of the pig trough 724184;1403143114;asciilifeform;decimation: bureaucrats are paid quite little if you perform my calculation 724185;1403143118;asciilifeform;at least where i live 724186;1403143148;decimation;yeah that's definitely true, even the top of the pile 724187;1403143153;asciilifeform;welfare folks 'pay' by having to live in specially designated concentration camps 724188;1403143153;decimation;hell Obama only makes $400k 724189;1403143199;decimation;teachers "pay" by being unable to actually practice their craft (see my above link) 724190;1403143228;Mats_cd03;wtf 3200/yr 724191;1403143234;asciilifeform;alaska? 724192;1403143239;Mats_cd03;are you living in a fucking trap house 724193;1403143247;decimation;alaska is actually pretty expensive 724194;1403143261;decimation;n. dakota is cheap 724195;1403143272;asciilifeform;afaik folks get housed on company dime at drilling platform 724196;1403143290;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Dying college town. Competing against a shortage of broke grad students 724197;1403143321;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: These places exist in the middle of the US 724198;1403143352;Mats_cd03;i see 724199;1403143504;decimation;re: redskins trademark cancellation : http://theden.tv/2014/06/18/u-s-patent-and-trade-office-cancels-disparaging-redskins-trademark/ 724200;1403143506;assbot;U.S. Patent and Trade Office Cancels ‘Disparaging’ Redskins Trademark | Theden | Thedening the West 724201;1403143553;decimation;Federal trademark law does not permit registration of trademarks that ?may disparage? individuals or groups or ?bring them into contempt or disrepute.? 724202;1403143573;mircea_popescu;but the thing is... this wasn't being registered. 724203;1403143581;mircea_popescu;it was registered *already* 724204;1403143585;asciilifeform;decimation: this is a more interesting event than appears at first. they just zapped 'stare decisis' 724205;1403143591;mircea_popescu;what law allows the office to randomly re-register trademarks ? 724206;1403143600;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform exactly. 724207;1403143604;asciilifeform;e.g. the authority of the past N years, when the trademark was legal - where is it now. 724208;1403143609;decimation;I thought it was illeagal for a bill of attainder 724209;1403143629;mircea_popescu;basically the us has no further guaranteed rights. 724210;1403143641;decimation;what's the difference between making a law condeming joe to death, vs a law that condemns the redskins trademark to death? 724211;1403143643;decimation;for arbitray reasons? 724212;1403143646;mircea_popescu;not to property (the so called process "in rem", eminent domain, a whole list) 724213;1403143655;asciilifeform;decimation: no law involved - in the usual sense 724214;1403143661;mircea_popescu;not to fair process 724215;1403143663;mircea_popescu;not to anything 724216;1403143669;BingoBoingo;It is amazing people can talk in this state www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt.+26.5&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=74600000&SeqEnd=75300000 724217;1403143669;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 724218;1403143676;mircea_popescu;decimation this wasn't a law, to begin with 724219;1403143694;mircea_popescu;the entire "attainder" thing is the result of internet fucktards opining on matters. i wouldn't repeat it. 724220;1403143708;decimation;yeah it's a civil case, as opposed to criminal 724221;1403143752;mircea_popescu;patents are an administrative matter. 724222;1403143783;decimation;oh yeah this isn't even a real court, just a commitee of government employees 724223;1403143797;decimation;well, derp derp who cares what the opinion of usg employees are 724224;1403143817;mircea_popescu;us citizens, as subjects of the usg. 724225;1403143847;decimation;so you often complain about the 'rule of law not men' 724226;1403143849;mircea_popescu;benkay: the word i got was that large, tech-heavy equipment gets stalled at the border. << anything fucktarder muricans do gets stalled everywhgere. 724227;1403143854;mircea_popescu;this is because nobody can stand them. 724228;1403143864;decimation;in this case, derpy nobodies are ruling 724229;1403143872;decimation;irrespective of controlling laws 724230;1403143881;BingoBoingo;I'm still realling that the Bitpay bought one of the most expensive and lowest return forms of advertising. 724231;1403143892;mircea_popescu;decimation the problem with trying to promote a system of "laws not men" is that ONLY men can rule. and so under the guise of "laws not men" that keeps actual men away 724232;1403143897;mircea_popescu;the cockless dickheads rule. 724233;1403143930;decimation;yeah, you could say that we are ruled by non-men, as opposed to men, because laws cannot rule anyone by themselves 724234;1403143932;asciilifeform;anything fucktarder muricans do gets stalled << whatever the reason - let's say benkay or i need to get a crate of strange through Ar door. no go, because passport is wrong color. or this is disinfo ? 724235;1403143968;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: noooo way ?<< yes way. these are the fuckwits that want to be involved as adults 724236;1403143973;mircea_popescu;instead of doing what i fucking tell them to do. 724237;1403143977;mircea_popescu;like the children they are. 724238;1403143999;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform possibly no go, because you don;'t know how to ask. 724239;1403144014;mircea_popescu;much like, you want to pick up a chick. no go, because... passport the wrong color ? notrly. 724240;1403144132;mircea_popescu;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1bXIe06V--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/w33uouiq516gt1btjhjt.jpg << lol they dug upo that old gallippi pic did they 724241;1403144176;BingoBoingo;Yeah they did 724242;1403144178;mircea_popescu;did bitpay pr, ever clever and professional, have anything to say yet ? 724243;1403144258;asciilifeform;don't know how to ask << makes a difference if this is a fixable condition (know who to pay off, etc) or more difficult (have the correct uncle) 724244;1403144279;mircea_popescu;for something like importing machinery, definitely the former. 724245;1403144363;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I've been looking around slowly. Not found anything yet. 724246;1403144403;mircea_popescu;today in the news, pretend you're a corp, pretend you've got 30mn investment, fail to have any pr whatsoever. 724247;1403144422;mircea_popescu;how people can be this stupid still amazes me. i mean sure, forum derps, okay, they're all by themselves. 724248;1403144425;mircea_popescu;but by now... 724249;1403144427;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: consider benkay's point. if i have to wrap sample pcbs in benjamins to get them through customs, this ought to be considered a cost of doing business in Ar 724250;1403144430;BingoBoingo;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-ncaa-college-football-bowl-sponsorship-bitpay/ is closest I've found to Bitpay Pr so far. 724251;1403144430;assbot;Attention Required! | CloudFlare 724252;1403144444;asciilifeform;doesn't look quite so cheap then, no? 724253;1403144455;BingoBoingo;Oh, coindesk nao hates assbot 724254;1403144461;mircea_popescu;lol attention required. 724255;1403144492;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what was looking cheap in the first place, or what were we saying ? 724256;1403144495;BingoBoingo;I like how Bitpay couldn't even sponsor a game in a stadium actually suited to the sport. 724257;1403144505;asciilifeform;Ar, india, etc. look cheap to the uninitiated. 724258;1403144515;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo it is not the place of start-ups to sponsor anyway 724259;1403144533;asciilifeform;until you move in and try to get, e.g. smt resistors shipped in from malaysia 724260;1403144533;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sure, it's cheap. depends what you want. 724261;1403144542;asciilifeform;or pick'n'placers from russia 724262;1403144559;mircea_popescu;but if you want that, why the fuck would you not be in malaysia or russia. 724263;1403144575;asciilifeform;because not one of these actually contains everything you need for the production line 724264;1403144584;decimation;china/taiwan do 724265;1403144596;mircea_popescu;so what does argentina contain that you need for your production line ? 724266;1403144601;mircea_popescu;i keep trying to get this out for awhile nao 724267;1403144603;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Not at all. I guess Imma have to blog. 724268;1403144608;asciilifeform;better question - what it doesn't contain. 724269;1403144614;asciilifeform;e.g. der wagen 724270;1403144622;mircea_popescu;and malaysia does ?! 724271;1403144626;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: In any worthwhile endeavor the highest cost belongs to becoming initiated 724272;1403144637;decimation;well, it certianly isn't down the street from hong kong 724273;1403144663;BingoBoingo;%book 724274;1403144665;atcbot;2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 50k@161 216k@160 500k@151 724275;1403144685;mircea_popescu;think strategically. argentina is a dead end. hong kong is a center. is your business suited for which exactly ? 724276;1403144698;mircea_popescu;dead ends are eminently defensible. centers are centers of trade for that reason 724277;1403144701;mircea_popescu;what are you building ? 724278;1403144729;asciilifeform;small electronic widgets. 724279;1403144749;decimation;there is a point to that. If you could become legally "untouchable" for a few $100k in bribes to the right people, that's of significant value 724280;1403144751;mircea_popescu;so then because of your dependency on azn manufacturers you conceivably want your business run there 724281;1403144777;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: ever do business with han chinese ? 724282;1403144818;mircea_popescu;notrly. 724283;1403144826;mircea_popescu;not on their turf, anyway. 724284;1403144835;asciilifeform;if you've no 'guanxi', you're 'not in his WoT' 724285;1403144840;asciilifeform;;;google guanxi 724286;1403144840;mircea_popescu;i can attest that when you can have their head, they're reasonable, fwtw. 724287;1403144841;gribble;Guanxi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; What is Guanxi? | World Learner Chinese: ; Want To Capitalize On China? You Better Have Good Guanxi - Forbes: 724288;1403144850;mircea_popescu;that i doubt very much. 724289;1403144861;mircea_popescu;i've yet to have a problem with getting in the wot. 724290;1403144874;mircea_popescu;then again, im the sort that learns the language and fucks local. 724291;1403144974;decimation;mircea, I suspect the sayings of don colacho would be an excellent way to brush up on spanish: http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/ 724292;1403144974;assbot;Don Colacho’s Aphorisms 724293;1403145010;mircea_popescu;but... it's in engliush ?! 724294;1403145031;asciilifeform;chinese 'WoT' (like in other asian nations) is very heavily tilted in direction of blood relation 724295;1403145036;asciilifeform;or at least marriage 724296;1403145044;decimation;the original text isn't. click on a link and see the original: http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2011/02/2862.html 724297;1403145045;assbot;Don Colacho’s Aphorisms: #2,862 724298;1403145093;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform everytrhing has its exceptions. what do i care what the statistics are ? 724299;1403145098;asciilifeform;they'll do buisiness, yes. and at some point, your operation takes off, you find your factory nationalized. 724300;1403145108;asciilifeform;or otherwise 'have problems' 724301;1403145117;mircea_popescu;whoredom is heavily tilted in the direction of blondes, yet any girl i train can top any brothel she wants. 724302;1403145129;mircea_popescu;or maybe they do. 724303;1403145179;decimation;http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/01/30.html When people stop fighting for the possession of private property, they will fight for the usufruct in collective property. 724304;1403145179;assbot;Don Colacho’s Aphorisms: #30 724305;1403145181;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i can't rightfully say china is 'immovable object.' if you care to try 'irresistible force' there, we'll watch, cheer. 724306;1403145211;mircea_popescu;everything's an immovable object for something or the other. 724307;1403145233;mircea_popescu;how did they end up run by the mongols ? 724308;1403145282;BingoBoingo;"unstoppable force" actually beats immovable object in practice 724309;1403145330;decimation;so even usg's hilarious inflation numbers are showing inflation http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/17/us-usa-economy-idUSKBN0ES1C620140617 724310;1403145330;assbot;U.S. consumer prices show inflation ticking up| Reuters 724311;1403145336;*;asciilifeform is forced to reluctantly love chinese - they're the only 'pepsi' we've got left. 724312;1403145338;BingoBoingo;Actually unstoppable forces decay within several generations 724313;1403145352;decimation;I wonder if this has to do with the sudden uptick in acquisitions by the bezzle masters 724314;1403145358;mircea_popescu;what, argentines are pepsi too. 724315;1403145374;mircea_popescu;(to add to the humour, in romanian "being pepsi" pretty much means being fucked up) 724316;1403145377;asciilifeform;lol 724317;1403145394;moiety;night all :] 724318;1403145434;mircea_popescu;laters 724319;1403145442;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you ever have time, consider writing a piece about Ar circa '98-'02 724320;1403145454;mircea_popescu;im really not that advanced just yet 724321;1403145462;asciilifeform;my (no means) expert understanding - they let themselves get arseraped by us banks 724322;1403145466;decimation;ascii why don't the russians get into electronics/computer manufacturing? have they managed to chase away the talent? 724323;1403145513;asciilifeform;decimation: start with the soviet mistake (circa mid-70s) of scrapping their own (interesting! e.g. trinary!) comp. research and deciding to copy western archs - e.g. pdp 724324;1403145517;asciilifeform;in order to run warez 724325;1403145560;asciilifeform;(western hardware was difficult to get - trade embargoed, had to go through shill companies) 724326;1403145561;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i don't quite see it. so far, they got 50 bn or so, not paying it back 724327;1403145569;mircea_popescu;seems they assraped the us banks to me. 724328;1403145602;asciilifeform;http://ferfal.blogspot.com << disinfo ? 724329;1403145602;assbot;SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA 724330;1403145637;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this is rather like supposing that russia (default of late 90s) raped us banks 724331;1403145651;decimation;the elite did, kind of 724332;1403145663;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform didn't it ? 724333;1403145671;asciilifeform;for some value of 'it' 724334;1403145673;mircea_popescu;decimation the country is the elite. 724335;1403145686;mircea_popescu;mobile vulgus has no patria. 724336;1403145700;asciilifeform;the objective - entirely non-monetary - ensure that russian industry gets sawn apart for metals - was achieved. 724337;1403145721;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the russian industry, such as it was, was crap. it was going to get sold for scrap anyway. 724338;1403145733;mircea_popescu;now, its owners had the unmitigated idiocy of not keeping proper capital on hand. 724339;1403145756;decimation;yeah when you have a traubant factory that employs 50,000 people things are not going to work out well in the long run 724340;1403145756;mircea_popescu;so a bankruptcy was necessary 724341;1403145767;BingoBoingo;In a firesale I wonder if Iowa has more value as agriculture or uranium 724342;1403145784;asciilifeform;was crap << complicated. if you want sovereignty - gotta crank out the hardware, best as you can. 724343;1403145791;mircea_popescu;not true. 724344;1403145799;mircea_popescu;im a sovereign that doesn't even suck its own cock, how about that! 724345;1403145802;mircea_popescu;shouldn't even exist!!1 724346;1403145831;asciilifeform;lenin suggested that the west 'will sell you the rope to hang it with.' not sure if this can be meant literally - could russia buy working nukes from the targets? 724347;1403145850;mircea_popescu;dude as if russian industry = nukes in any sense. 724348;1403145859;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Not the whole things, but lands were the scarce lives 724349;1403145866;decimation;I blame this guy http://jeffsachs.org/2012/03/what-i-did-in-russia/ 724350;1403145867;assbot;What I did in Russia Jeffrey Sachs 724351;1403145886;mircea_popescu;every single piece of automotive machinery, from cars to trains, airplanes and anything else, that uses too much fuel to be economically usable is either russian make or russian design 724352;1403145901;asciilifeform;a surprising fraction of soviet economy reduced to - obscenely inefficient method of producing sovereignty-enforcement hardware 724353;1403145903;mircea_popescu;fucking saratov fridges doing 4kw to slightly cool three galons 724354;1403145927;asciilifeform;4kw fridge. that the germans, swedes, whoever, can't blackmail you with by withholding 724355;1403145933;asciilifeform;gotta understand the mentality. 724356;1403145946;mircea_popescu;i do understand it, but i am pointing out iot's not all that it's cracked up to be. 724357;1403145954;mircea_popescu;putin gets this, incidentally. 724358;1403145958;asciilifeform;it's a siege mentality, necessarily extreme 724359;1403145963;mircea_popescu;no. 724360;1403145969;mircea_popescu;a siege mentality is not necessarily extreme. 724361;1403145973;mircea_popescu;it's lazily extrem 724362;1403145974;mircea_popescu;e 724363;1403146036;asciilifeform;sorta like the kind of fellow everyone must know, that got back from afghan and sleeps hugging his rifle, does nothing as hobby but clean and oil it, cycles the bolt at the slightest noise in the house 724364;1403146057;mircea_popescu;nothing wrong with owning a rifle, in good condition, and being ready and able to use it 724365;1403146061;asciilifeform;nothing. 724366;1403146063;mircea_popescu;however, that's not gonna make an omlet 724367;1403146066;asciilifeform;correct 724368;1403146090;asciilifeform;good to occasionally hug things that aren't the rifle, also 724369;1403146091;mircea_popescu;and so the ak-47 shaped spatulas, 18lbs of solid pig iron 724370;1403146094;mircea_popescu;are getting thrown away 724371;1403146098;mircea_popescu;because spatula is silicone 724372;1403146131;asciilifeform;from russian perspective - silicone that won't be there if the border closes 724373;1403146155;asciilifeform;pentium is great. but 'bk-0010' would've still been there. 724374;1403146162;mircea_popescu;dude do you see what sort of abused child grown up mentality is this ? 724375;1403146166;asciilifeform;sure 724376;1403146168;mircea_popescu;"i can't love you because what if you leave me" 724377;1403146196;*;asciilifeform doesn't live there now, but definitely gets it. if you grow up in ussr, '45 never really ends 724378;1403146204;asciilifeform;or, pessimistically, '41 724379;1403146234;decimation;http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/07/25/dying-russias-birth-rate-is-now-higher-than-the-united-states/ 724380;1403146235;assbot;'Dying' Russia's Birth Rate Is Now Higher Than The United States' - Forbes 724381;1403146243;asciilifeform;trauma makes people - and cultures - pathologically conservative 724382;1403146257;*;asciilifeform wonders how applies to china, ought to ask the folks in the know 724383;1403146260;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform which is why im such a fan of things like pussy riot 724384;1403146275;asciilifeform;decimation: with our without dar al islam ? 724385;1403146281;asciilifeform;*or 724386;1403146287;mircea_popescu;the best thing for moscow today is if the rich kids started taking the girls nude on leashes on novskiwhateveritscalled 724387;1403146295;decimation;good point. "white america" definitely has a negative birth rate 724388;1403146305;asciilifeform;decimation: because last i checked, the entire place converts to tajikistan in <100yrs. 724389;1403146327;decimation;what about tartarstan 724390;1403146380;decimation;I guess they are pretty close to the Turkic Tajiks 724391;1403146384;mircea_popescu;you know these liniar projections never work. 724392;1403146391;decimation;sons of Khan 724393;1403146401;mircea_popescu;people were derping about how romania will be 90% gypsy by 20something in 1990. 724394;1403146414;mircea_popescu;it... still hasn't happened. the oppressed minority is still an oppressed minority. 724395;1403146438;decimation;mircea: re pussy riot: but ultimately they are tools of the western bezzle machine 724396;1403146445;mircea_popescu;not so. 724397;1403146453;mircea_popescu;they're too stupid to be the tools of anything. 724398;1403146483;mircea_popescu;at any rate, the notion that sensuality and the puritan caging thereof as displayed by the us (and uk before that) are in any way related... 724399;1403146499;mircea_popescu;purest historical accident. i can understand why us-ians would believe it, because they love to believe themselves relevant 724400;1403146502;mircea_popescu;but otherwise... lol. 724401;1403146573;decimation;I agree that the notions of puritanical modesty are hilarious. I was born in an old school Lutheran hospital (now closed) - my birth certificate's seal shows a doctor pulling a baby out of a vagina 724402;1403146585;decimation;somehow this was okay in Christianity 100 years ago but not today 724403;1403146609;mircea_popescu;decimation not what i meant. what i means was, the proposition that somehow girls naked in the street are tools of the us bezzle. it's ludicrous. 724404;1403146623;mircea_popescu;for all you know they're the tools of mp's world domination plans. 724405;1403146677;decimation;but they parrot and derp about equality, femenism, etc 724406;1403146743;mircea_popescu;sure. but nobody cares what they say, the only attraction is their nudity. 724407;1403146773;mircea_popescu;maybe some derps somewhere HOPE that they may embed their message this way, much like radio advertisers hope paying for the radio makes you buy coca cola 724408;1403146796;mircea_popescu;but the thing still is what it is : nude chicks in a badly abused, utterly frigid, compulsively conservatory society. 724409;1403146798;mircea_popescu;balm. 724410;1403146891;decimation;so it would seem that putin is also sending a message about women by caging them 724411;1403146912;mircea_popescu;putin has the disadvantage of being actually stuck ruling the thing 724412;1403146917;mircea_popescu;he has to do all sorts of stupid shit. 724413;1403146969;mircea_popescu;or who knows, maybe he's personally dumb on the score i guess. 724414;1403147093;decimation;well, he certainly want to encourage fertility, and sending the message that it's okay for russian women to aspire to childless eat pray love isn't the way to get there 724415;1403147185;decimation;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjI0KYl9gWs 724416;1403147185;assbot;Pussy Riot - Putin will teach you how to love / - YouTube 724417;1403147304;decimation;skip to 2:05 to watch Cossacks beat them 724418;1403147425;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06924233 = 0.7617 BTC [-] 724419;1403147502;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: my understanding - fellow with a contract on his head should perhaps sleep with rifle. the one without contract - with girl. whether 4kw fridge, bk0010, etc. is batshit - or genius - depends on which box russia sits in 724420;1403147523;mircea_popescu;so which kind am i ? 724421;1403147543;asciilifeform;ask mircea_popescu 724422;1403147551;mircea_popescu;ok, what kind are you ? 724423;1403147567;mircea_popescu;what kind is antonoderpulous ? does he have a contract on his head ? twitter says so. 724424;1403147568;asciilifeform;the kind who 'dies just once' 724425;1403147585;mircea_popescu;no but i mean, gimme something actionable as per the plan you laid out above. 724426;1403147585;asciilifeform;lol 724427;1403147596;BingoBoingo;Seems the solution is to have enough girls to sleep with girl while girl guards door with rifle 724428;1403147607;mircea_popescu;can't hurt. 724429;1403147666;asciilifeform;going back to russia/industry: according to 'hardcore' russian folks, the west deprived the nation of crucial natural resource - one still abundant in, e.g. china. of course they aren't talking about lanthanides, but... girls who will birth half a dozen kids and work in factory without toilet breaks 724430;1403147667;mircea_popescu;decimation got really hot an' bothered watching cussacks beat on lanky ukrainian teenagers, is nao off to molest wife 724431;1403147669;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.04639999 = 0.928 BTC [+] {8} 724432;1403147686;*;asciilifeform lol just got back from molestation 724433;1403147690;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you'll have to explain this tro me so it makes sense 724434;1403147702;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform o, you're doing the same one ?! (know the joke ?) 724435;1403147713;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: the two chaps with the toothbrush, aye 724436;1403147716;mircea_popescu;no. 724437;1403147720;asciilifeform;...? 724438;1403147728;mircea_popescu;pussy riot gets $1bn to study mating habits across europe. 724439;1403147742;mircea_popescu;for this purpose, they sequester one woman and two men for a week, then interview them, 724440;1403147764;mircea_popescu;the english : well... we were never introduced, so we just read the newspapers all week. it was fuckign boring. 724441;1403147849;mircea_popescu;the french : oh, Leo, Lea, Elie 724442;1403147866;mircea_popescu;(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjVKOPUIcc if you don't klnow it) 724443;1403147872;asciilifeform;lol 724444;1403147882;mircea_popescu;the russians : omg this was awful. all night long they took turns fucking me in all the holes 724445;1403147893;mircea_popescu;and all day long they held syndicate meetings to criticise me for being a whore 724446;1403147963;mircea_popescu;wb. 724447;1403147967;mircea_popescu;that was... rapid ? 724448;1403147978;decimation;"decimation got really hot an' bothered watching cussacks beat on lanky ukrainian teenagers" << not really my cup of tea, but relevant 724449;1403148002;decimation;my stupid vpn dropped me like a hot potato, thought conversation was over 724450;1403148011;mircea_popescu;pretty cool how it worked out lol 724451;1403148054;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-madness-of-president-putin.html << herr orlov on pussyriot etc 724452;1403148055;assbot;ClubOrlov: The Madness of President Putin 724453;1403148081;decimation;the thing I don't understand ascii is that it's clear that russia has the brainpower to make alternatives 724454;1403148102;decimation;even without all-night slave labor sv startup style 724455;1403148114;asciilifeform;decimation: go build a MOSFET with... brainpower 724456;1403148153;asciilifeform;industrial civilization doesn't get birthed from coffee shop (as discussed in one of mp's essays?) 724457;1403148198;asciilifeform;try mine uranium, tantalum, with brainpower 724458;1403148220;asciilifeform;get 50 rail cars of synthesis-grade nitric acid with brain. 724459;1403148264;decimation;This goes back to the warez - they seem like the answer to all your short term problems, but in the long run just get you hooked on the infrastructure 724460;1403148269;decimation;all of those things do require lots of brain power 724461;1403148279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.22697248 = 2.0428 BTC [+] 724462;1403148288;decimation;but they also require getting humans to actually do the work 724463;1403148314;decimation;and... capital 724464;1403148330;asciilifeform;and 100 yrs. of infrastructure. 724465;1403148361;asciilifeform;japan jumped the gap - why? because they had the 'natural resource' 724466;1403148370;decimation;it's true that it's much easier to get nitric acid when the nitric acid factory has been pumping it out two states away for a few decades 724467;1403148378;asciilifeform;- that being, six generations of people willing to work into the grave for a cup of rice 724468;1403148413;decimation;the us had something like that a few decades ago, still coasting on its output 724469;1403148419;asciilifeform;let's take the liberty of abusing thermodynamics term, and say this is 'fuel' 724470;1403148435;asciilifeform;whereas u.s. (or moscow today) 'office plankton' is... ground state. 724471;1403148437;asciilifeform;fuel that's been burned. 724472;1403148474;asciilifeform;u.s. running on fumes. 724473;1403148484;asciilifeform;e.g. i can get pcbs made here. it just costs 35x what it does in shanghai. 724474;1403148502;asciilifeform;because american factory gurlz want toilet breaks, health care!, etc 724475;1403148538;decimation;When I was in Hawaii last week I thought about this w.r.t. Hawaii. They own one of the most strategic islands on earth 724476;1403148570;decimation;it could easily outsingapore singapore with its location. but it won't, because it is a combination of bezzle playground and indian reservation 724477;1403148601;asciilifeform;decimation: it's only strategic value is as 'unsinkable ship' 724478;1403148622;asciilifeform;otherwise it's a pisshole. (try finding an industrial vendor who will even ship there) 724479;1403148646;asciilifeform;if you could build a singapore there, that's another matter. 724480;1403148655;decimation;well, yes, today. but I would wager that if you exchanged the populations of hawaii and singapore, it wouldn't look that way for long 724481;1403148660;asciilifeform;aye 724482;1403148705;asciilifeform;not sure how long singapore will last as other than chinese colony after u.s. navy is unplugged 724483;1403148745;asciilifeform;ditto taiwan 724484;1403148835;decimation;on Maui there is a statue to Sun Yet-Sen in an obscure park: http://gohawaii.about.com/od/mauisights/ig/sun_yat_sen_park/ 724485;1403148836;assbot;Sun Yat Sen Park, Upcountry Maui Photo Gallery 724486;1403148851;decimation;when visiting, I discovered that Sun Yat Sen went to the same school as... Obama 724487;1403148882;decimation;when the usians are trading golden yuan pieces in a few decades they will remember this bit of history 724488;1403148923;asciilifeform;decimation: the middle kingdom != la serenissima. they'll be buying rice with paper yuans. 724489;1403148983;mircea_popescu;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=D.BPAY < 724490;1403148983;assbot;D.BPAY last @0.00000000 724491;1403148997;mircea_popescu;that's basically how it's gonna look. welcoming questions as to the contract etc. 724492;1403149000;asciilifeform;neato 724493;1403149002;mircea_popescu;prolly starting to trade monday 724494;1403149039;asciilifeform;proving that one holds shares on fiat exchange might be energy-intensive 724495;1403149047;decimation;this is true. the amusing thing to me is that Obama rose with the new left under Maoism... and China today embraces (in action, not words) Chinese nationalism and rejects Mao 724496;1403149085;asciilifeform;(suddenly you're going over bezzlar paperwork with magnifying glass) 724497;1403149106;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform why'd that be required ? 724498;1403149125;asciilifeform;nm bad reading 724499;1403149164;*;asciilifeform dug in ancient engine amidst mosquito clouds, tired 724500;1403149241;decimation;I'm confused about who the counterparty is 724501;1403149249;decimation;I assume it's just you with your bitcoin bank right? 724502;1403149295;asciilifeform;mp has bank now?! 724503;1403149316;decimation;I'm using "bank" to mean "pile of bitcoin" 724504;1403149317;mircea_popescu;decimation actually im going to make a fund, so people can buy into it. 724505;1403149324;mircea_popescu;but otherwise, yes. 724506;1403149382;decimation;this is kind of a more open-ended version of your berkshire bet? 724507;1403149404;mircea_popescu;http://mpex.co/?mpsic=D.BTGO 724508;1403149404;assbot;D.BTGO last @0.00000000 724509;1403149417;mircea_popescu;idem. if anyone wants to see more and they meet the criteria, let me know. 724510;1403149425;mircea_popescu;decimation not really. berkshire is not a shitstup 724511;1403149469;decimation;what happens if bitpay dissolves as an entity before a b or c happen? 724512;1403149472;decimation;shares go to zero value? 724513;1403149492;mircea_popescu;pretty much 724514;1403149546;decimation;I guess they are tickets to a show that never happened 724515;1403149559;mircea_popescu;something like that yea 724516;1403149604;asciilifeform;'dead pool' ? 724517;1403149651;decimation;well, the seller of said tickets will be enriched ... :) 724518;1403149678;*;asciilifeform remembers 'fucked company' 724519;1403149703;decimation;still, to me it seems like you need to get a few of these to "fail" so you can build up a war chest as a credible counterparty 724520;1403149731;mircea_popescu;decimation why ? 724521;1403149741;Mats_cd03;how fucking ridiculous 724522;1403149748;asciilifeform;war chest is there, to everyone's satisfaction, i imagine 724523;1403149777;decimation;I like bitbet because it's extremely transparent that way 724524;1403149869;decimation;mats: what is rediculous? 724525;1403149948;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 724526;1403149949;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 604.34, Best ask: 605.46, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 606.24, 24 hour volume: 5471.59645098, 24 hour low: 599.9, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 607.679332574 724527;1403149984;decimation;it's been racheting up slowly from 500 724528;1403150144;decimation;!down decimation 724529;1403150241;Mats_cd03;asks q then leaves while i type response 724530;1403150530;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/DorianSatoshi/status/479463088870412288 724531;1403150531;assbot;I was considering bidding on the seized SR bitcoin, but I think I'll just wait for the US Marshals to tweet the private keys to the winners. 724532;1403150650;mircea_popescu;lol 724533;1403151503;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-fderp/ 724534;1403151505;assbot;Introducing F.DERP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 724535;1403151758;Duffer1;o.0 724536;1403151833;mircea_popescu;quite. 724537;1403151910;mircea_popescu;justlurking: yep, starting my 6 month indoctrination thanks to pete << hey there. 724538;1403152316;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: the investors will make a KLIPPING << ahahaha 724539;1403152322;mircea_popescu;dude i think kako is like the funniest guy here. 724540;1403152520;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-fderp/ 724541;1403152561;mircea_popescu;gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded. << this warms my cold dark heart. 724542;1403152982;punkman;mircea_popescu: how so 724543;1403153009;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: ;;google site:trilema.com live to be a millionaire << shit i wrote that ?! in another decade trilema'll be new reading to me too ;/ 724544;1403153019;mircea_popescu;punkman i like it when people build things upon things. 724545;1403153028;mircea_popescu;;;google society for putting things on top of other things 724546;1403153028;gribble;Monty Python Royal Society for Putting Things on top of other things ...: ; Monty Python: Royal Society For Putting Things on Top of Other ...: ; Monty Python: The Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things: 724547;1403153556;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: You wrote relatively recently 724548;1403153571;mircea_popescu;yeah, with it here i remember it. 724549;1403153607;mircea_popescu;No one is wise enough or good enough to mould the character of any child An adult generation that has seen two great wars and seems about to launch a third should not be trusted to mould the character of a rat. 724550;1403153616;mircea_popescu;a.s. neil is perhaps the dumbest guy i read this year 724551;1403153623;mircea_popescu;what the fuck already. since when is war a disqualifier ? 724552;1403153636;asciilifeform;'war - the mother of all things' 724553;1403153642;mircea_popescu;anyone wanna go kill this guy ? 724554;1403153644;mircea_popescu;or is he dead already ? 724555;1403153687;BingoBoingo;I'll assume he's already dead, at least on the inside 724556;1403153723;mircea_popescu;a well. 724557;1403153727;mircea_popescu;perhaps the next one. 724558;1403154310;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://clubs.ya.ru/4611686018427388682/replies.xml?item_no=24517 << 'saratov' fridge. 93 Wt. cost: 76 rub. date of manuf.: 1969. 724559;1403154312;assbot; - . 724560;1403154336;asciilifeform;caption, among other things 'ran for 40 yrs.' 724561;1403154445;asciilifeform;plenty of comments, in the spirit, 'mine's built '65 and runs.' 724562;1403154476;*;asciilifeform thinks plenty of folks are grossly misinformed re: soviet hardware. 724563;1403154531;*;asciilifeform wonders in what western country you can buy a fridge that runs for 50 years. for $500? 5000, 50,000 ? 724564;1403154573;mircea_popescu;i was forcing a point !!1 724565;1403154595;asciilifeform;crappy soviet hardware is very real 724566;1403154597;mircea_popescu;that point being, that the russian (actually, german, pre ww2) model works just fine with no ecological consideration 724567;1403154605;asciilifeform;and largely came from lack of necessaries 724568;1403154609;mircea_popescu;or in otherwords, if you're willing to kill as many subhumans as it takes 724569;1403154619;asciilifeform;e.g. my father was once employed to reverse-engineer movie projectors 724570;1403154632;asciilifeform;couldn't get german steel for the part where the film stretches taught 724571;1403154638;asciilifeform;result - tolerances fail, film - snaps 724572;1403154657;asciilifeform;redesign. result -> cruddy kludge 724573;1403154683;mircea_popescu;myeah 724574;1403154744;asciilifeform;energy cost is a design parameter at the time of design - not now. 724575;1403154755;asciilifeform;my neighbour - rebuilds '40s-'50s amer cars. 724576;1403154781;mircea_popescu;o look at that, bids 724577;1403154786;mircea_popescu;$depth D.BPAY 724578;1403154787;empyex;mircea_popescu: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=92 Or use a valid MPSIC! 724579;1403154787;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 724580;1403154793;mircea_popescu;tsk tsk 724581;1403155020;FabianB;$depth D.BPAY 724582;1403155020;empyex;FabianB: [D.BPAY] Bids: 100 @ 0.25000000 724583;1403155021;empyex;FabianB: [D.BPAY] Asks: 724584;1403155355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 17 @ 0.052 = 0.884 BTC [+] 724585;1403155358;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDvikAG7cD8#t=15 << 4-cycle petrol engine built from that fridge's compressor. 724586;1403155358;assbot;4 - YouTube 724587;1403155585;mircea_popescu;ahaha 724588;1403155591;mircea_popescu;FabianB :) danke 724589;1403155616;FabianB;np :) 724590;1403156053;BingoBoingo;%book 724591;1403156054;atcbot;2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 50k@161 216k@160 500k@151 724592;1403156087;mircea_popescu;lol is the 201 guy someone who bought at 200 and they figure THEY MUST PROFT 724593;1403156451;BingoBoingo;I have no idea 724594;1403156510;BingoBoingo;Maybe it is someone who wants to see the market go down to grab cheap ATC? 724595;1403156873;mircea_popescu;mebbe 724596;1403157002;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00082258 = 8.6782 BTC [-] 724597;1403157148;fluffypony;dump, rebut in lower 724598;1403157149;fluffypony;*rebuy 724599;1403159001;jurov;nice 724600;1403159035;jurov;mircea_popescu: can i open D.BBS and short my shares there? 724601;1403159048;jurov;but they'll prolly have negative price :( 724602;1403159645;jurov;anyway i'd be surprised if schmucks who may buy D.* have mpex or at least coinbr accounts *and* whole bitcoins 724603;1403159774;jurov;they'll prolly need free coinbr account provided i'll sell their souls.. does anyone want them? 724604;1403159837;jurov;lol what pm i got ill take a 0 fee br acct 724605;1403159863;jurov;!up Vexual 724606;1403159874;Vexual;yeah about the soul.. 724607;1403159907;Vexual;i'm ot sure i've got full title 724608;1403159938;jurov;markov chains did n't use to have souls 724609;1403160012;jurov;that doesn't preclude them to be sold anyway 724610;1403160185;Vexual;yeah i'll have to read up on that 724611;1403160268;Vexual;with the 10 percent... 724612;1403160282;Vexual;perhaps someone will like to buy these 724613;1403160497;Vexual;id like to be the photographer when rich b sits down with mirc p 724614;1403160626;Vexual;i call it red wine and dentures 724615;1403160896;Vexual;cat hasn't even done a vice cover yet 724616;1403161056;Vexual;alternate cover:interviewer 724617;1403163529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06947992 = 0.6948 BTC [-] {2} 724618;1403164121;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/4xJH4ui.jpg 724619;1403164123;fluffypony;lol 724620;1403165397;punkman;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpbw_MfIAAAXg1o.jpg:large 724621;1403165484;punkman;!up Vexual 724622;1403165725;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24755 @ 0.00082279 = 20.3682 BTC [+] {3} 724623;1403166079;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/19/bitcoin-and-bowl-games/ 724624;1403166182;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9ifCMk0Dg 724625;1403166182;assbot;Rick Ross - Nobody (Explicit) ft. French Montana, Puff Daddy - YouTube 724626;1403166886;punkman;http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/macon/2014/06/16/crime-reports-macon-june-16/10631943/ 724627;1403166886;assbot;Bibb Crime Files: Man accidentally shoots himself in penis 724628;1403167000;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw-FOGn7mc 724629;1403167000;assbot;Iggy Azalea - Fancy - YouTube 724630;1403167206;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokdL-0iV9s 724631;1403167207;assbot;BODY COUNT - Talk S**t, Get Shot (Official Music Video) - YouTube 724632;1403168897;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.06967197 = 2.4385 BTC [+] {4} 724633;1403168958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06987478 = 0.6987 BTC [+] 724634;1403169019;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.06999999 = 1.05 BTC [+] 724635;1403169202;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00082424 = 8.4485 BTC [+] 724636;1403171277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00082424 = 7.7891 BTC [+] 724637;1403173915;kakobrekla;!up ronkrt 724638;1403173918;kakobrekla;meh 724639;1403173923;kakobrekla;a. 724640;1403175729;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00082278 = 4.9778 BTC [-] 724641;1403177681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 79 @ 0.06822862 = 5.3901 BTC [-] {6} 724642;1403177743;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06738554 = 1.3477 BTC [-] {5} 724643;1403178444;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28j5y1/the_future_of_money_part_two/ 724644;1403178444;assbot;The Future of Money, Part Two. : Bitcoin 724645;1403179355;kakobrekla;lol 724646;1403181341;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00082201 = 26.0577 BTC [-] {3} 724647;1403181682;kakobrekla;http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock 724648;1403181683;assbot;bl.ocks.org - mbostock 724649;1403182561;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06947638 = 0.9032 BTC [-] 724650;1403182683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0694999 = 0.6255 BTC [+] 724651;1403184208;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.06949931 = 1.1815 BTC [-] {3} 724652;1403184513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.06999998 = 3.71 BTC [+] {4} 724653;1403185428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03847462 = 1.1158 BTC [-] 724654;1403185489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00082131 = 11.3341 BTC [-] {2} 724655;1403186126;mike_c;if i understand: BitPay get acquired by Facebook. D.BPAY holders are entitled to some share of the increase in facebook market cap. 724656;1403186181;mike_c;if that is true, it doesn't make a ton of sense to me. if Facebook pays the right amount for BitPay, market cap shouldn't move. Facebook will be -$1b in cash and +$1b in value due to bitpay. 724657;1403186205;mike_c;whereas bitpay investors will get rich. 724658;1403186229;fluffypony;wait, what? 724659;1403186232;fluffypony;Facebook is buying Bitpay? 724660;1403186243;mike_c;or at least liquid, since they were already rich in value. 724661;1403186350;mike_c;fluffypony: no, this is an example. 724662;1403186925;danielpbarron;I'm gonna be at porcfest next week; what can I do for the -assets community beyond generally promoting it in conversation? 724663;1403187015;mircea_popescu;danielpbarron want a tshirt ? 724664;1403187039;danielpbarron;I ordered one from nubbins` already; is there another shirt? 724665;1403187043;mircea_popescu;aok 724666;1403187053;mircea_popescu;nah i was gonna buy you one :) 724667;1403187055;danielpbarron;I don't expect that to arrive before I leave 724668;1403187062;mircea_popescu;well so next time 724669;1403187069;chetty;try to pay for stuff in bitcoin 724670;1403187082;mircea_popescu;or justkeep your bitcoin. either way :D 724671;1403187087;danielpbarron;i don't think i'll go to any future porcfests; i kinda regret buying the ticket for this one but i might as well use it at this point 724672;1403187099;danielpbarron;yeah i plan in selling stuff for BTC; not interested in shorting it 724673;1403187145;mircea_popescu;i never been, how they go ? 724674;1403187158;mike_c;http://porcfest.com/ hmm, i don't think this is what you're talking about. 724675;1403187159;assbot;PorcFest | The 11th Annual Porcupine Freedom Festival 724676;1403187166;danielpbarron;yeah that's it 724677;1403187201;mike_c;oh :) is the porcupine community into bitcoin? 724678;1403187208;mircea_popescu;now im getting airbnb spam 724679;1403187215;danielpbarron;i've never been either; it's gonna be teeming with what MP refers to as "libertards" 724680;1403187226;mircea_popescu;what the fuck srsly, the vc circuit is reducing to a spam&scamfest 724681;1403187230;danielpbarron;mike_c, yes; they were some of the earliest adopters 724682;1403187277;mircea_popescu; mike_c, yes; they were some of the earliest adopters << libertards srsly ?! 724683;1403187308;danielpbarron;mircea_popescu, the "free state project" participants, yes 724684;1403187315;mircea_popescu;ah yea 724685;1403187337;chetty;well thats a different breed of libtards, not lefties 724686;1403187347;danielpbarron;i recall some story of ver going to visit ian from free talk live and convincing them to accept BTC for selling ad space 724687;1403187362;danielpbarron;libertards != libtards 724688;1403187371;mike_c;ok, ok. this has nothing to do with the animal. 724689;1403187428;danielpbarron;i think aantonop is going to be there, among other "well known" idiots in the "bitcoin community" 724690;1403187482;kakobrekla;coinapult is a gold sponsor of the fest 724691;1403187506;kakobrekla;wear a helmet, i guess. 724692;1403187512;HeySteve;hello 724693;1403187555;HeySteve;wondering if anyone news sites have covered F.DERP yet... 724694;1403187565;HeySteve;uh any* 724695;1403187721;kakobrekla;i doubt 724696;1403187744;mircea_popescu;HeySteve go ahead. 724697;1403187751;mircea_popescu;anyway, off to a meeting, will bbl. 724698;1403187753;HeySteve;cool 724699;1403187762;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, I'd like to speak to you about it when you're back 724700;1403187806;fluffypony;!up peterl 724701;1403187821;fluffypony;!up peterl 724702;1403187842;peterl;trying to wrap my head around what F.DERP is 724703;1403187862;peterl;does it profit from the derp companies doing good or bad? 724704;1403187881;HeySteve;a bet against "amazing companies" I guess 724705;1403187881;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 724706;1403187911;HeySteve;wish I'd gotten short on that wannabe pornstar guy who gambled all his investor's funds away 724707;1403187951;kakobrekla;the thing is you cant go short cause idiots are idiots. 724708;1403188002;HeySteve;kakobrekla, I believe idiocy will eventually end in failure. sure there might be an initial boom while other idiots pile in but... 724709;1403188071;punkman;HeySteve: infinite hitpoints 724710;1403188090;kakobrekla;well not infinite but over 7 billion 724711;1403188157;kakobrekla;which i guess is as good as infinite 724712;1403188173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0695 = 0.695 BTC [+] 724713;1403188277;punkman;kakobrekla, the idiot pool could theoretically stop replenishing itself 724714;1403188280;HeySteve;I assume BitPay and BitGo (which I haven't heard of) are the relevant companies 724715;1403188281;punkman;I wouldn't bet on it 724716;1403188722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07 = 0.7 BTC [+] 724717;1403189149;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.06740031 = 2.8982 BTC [-] {5} 724718;1403189705;lobbes;the more I read the logs, the more humble I become. Then I read the blogs... 724719;1403189862;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/13VVSFH.txt ) 724720;1403189862;kakobrekla;!b 1 724721;1403189878;kakobrekla;did ya read the bash? 724722;1403190175;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds. /// Sure, can someone provide the landing content/file? ;;later tell me or such, I'm very behind on logs and distracted by day trading lately 724723;1403190211;mike_c;sure, it's not a web page though, it's a DNS thing 724724;1403190249;mike_c;you add a bunch of A records in the DNS for active nodes. i'll let you know. 724725;1403190404;bitcoinpete;More lulzy feedback from the litecoin article: 724726;1403190415;bitcoinpete;"your article on litecoin is one of the worst, most unresearched journalism attempts ive ever seen. Hang your head in shame" 724727;1403190423;bitcoinpete;"your use of vocab is the least impressive and your facts are skewed only to meet your own objectives." 724728;1403190432;bitcoinpete;"Im guessing u havent been involved in crypto long as anyone who needs to research adv of litecoin clearly isnt crypto clued up" 724729;1403190439;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/19/the-free-health-club-membership-an-experiment-in-roi/ 724730;1403190494;bitcoinpete;dammit, thought i changed that url... 724731;1403190497;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves 724732;1403190501;asciilifeform;http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co 724733;1403190505;assbot;Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? 724734;1403190505;fluffypony;I already linked to the github repo for it 724735;1403190530;bitcoinpete;asciilifeform: huh 724736;1403190539;bitcoinpete;i'm seeing the same 724737;1403190557;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/KryptoKoolio/status/479635487213486080 724738;1403190558;assbot;/bitcoinpete Im guessing u havent been involved in crypto long as anyone who needs to research adv of litecoin clearly isnt crypto clued up 724739;1403190568;Blazedout419;;;isitdown mpex.co 724740;1403190570;bitcoinpete;i really gotta get clued up 724741;1403190592;gribble;mpex.co is down 724742;1403190592;Blazedout419;^^ grib can checks 724743;1403190592;kakobrekla;its down 724744;1403190592;asciilifeform;neato 724745;1403190592;bitcoinpete;quite neat 724746;1403190608;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: another smoking disk ? 724747;1403190613;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06504115 = 6.5041 BTC [-] {14} 724748;1403190624;kakobrekla;he is off on a meeting or smth 724749;1403190674;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [-] 724750;1403190861;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/19/the-free-health-club-membership-an-experiment-in-monthly-vs-annual-payments/ 724751;1403190897;bitcoinpete;so penguirker re-posts when the url is changed eh 724752;1403190903;mike_c;;;isitdown mpex.coinbr.com 724753;1403190904;gribble;mpex.coinbr.com is up 724754;1403190999;fluffypony;modern teknologies 724755;1403191094;bitcoinpete;http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-forms-committee-create-bitcoin-unicode-symbol/ << committees! 724756;1403191094;assbot;Bitcoin Foundation Mulling Standard BTC Denominations, Bitcoin Unicode 724757;1403191274;fluffypony;bitcoinpete cut them some slack, they have to consider the long-reaching consequences of renaming "satoshis"...whatever will the altcoins think if they do? 724758;1403191289;fluffypony;bitcoinbong is still my favourite 724759;1403191316;bitcoinpete;lol 724760;1403191340;bitcoinpete;"that coffee will be 19 bitcoinbongs, please" 724761;1403191899;bitcoinpete;"The company known for computer chips on Thursday plans to announce the availability of an app that lets people leave offbeat animated messages using smartphones. It exploits the device’s camera and microphone to capture a user’s facial movements and voice, which are used to control cartoon-like figures known as avatars in recorded sequences." 724762;1403191909;bitcoinpete;http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/06/19/intel-serves-up-mobile-message-avatars/ 724763;1403191909;assbot;Intel Serves up Mobile-Message Avatars - Digits - WSJ 724764;1403191921;bitcoinpete;but i bet intel's rng is still good 724765;1403192014;bitcoinpete;on the amd side… http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/06/19/amd-vows-25-fold-increase-in-chip-energy-efficiency/ 724766;1403192014;assbot;AMD Vows 25-Fold Increase in Chip Energy-Efficiency - Digits - WSJ 724767;1403192030;bitcoinpete;which should be useful for mining and such 724768;1403192042;moiety;herro eberybady 724769;1403192122;bitcoinpete;moiety: heya 724770;1403192247;HeySteve;this could be important... http://wikileaks.org/tisa-financial/ 724771;1403192248;assbot;Secret Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) - Financial Services Annex 724772;1403193236;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2259989 = 1.13 BTC [-] {2} 724773;1403193602;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.72668865 BTC to 9`245 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 724774;1403193624;moiety;!up kermit 724775;1403193630;moiety;!up alex_c 724776;1403193686;moiety;omg im so nervous thinking about BB, can't wait to hear how it all went today. i know he'll be fine but still 724777;1403194212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082384 = 13.2638 BTC [+] 724778;1403194480;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Spain will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/912/ Odds: 5(Y):95(N) by coin, 9(Y):91(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.82877738 BTC. Current weight: 39,102. 724779;1403194593;FabianB;$traded 724780;1403194593;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.MPOE 724781;1403194624;pankkake;!mpif 724782;1403194626;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021674 BTC (Total: 433.49 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 724783;1403195131;moiety;they've made 11 videos from OSCON 2013 available for free http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014/public/content/mainstage-video?imm_mid=0be4b3&cmp=em-prog-confreg-info-os14_free_video_mainstage 724784;1403195133;assbot;Mainstage Video: OSCON 2014 - O'Reilly Conferences, July 20 - 24, 2014, Portland, OR 724785;1403195798;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24991 @ 0.0008251 = 20.6201 BTC [+] 724786;1403196151;bitstein;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-18/putin-advisor-proposes-anti-dollar-alliance-halt-us-foreign-aggression + http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2248419 = much fun for bitcoin 724787;1403196151;assbot;Putin Advisor Proposes "Anti-Dollar Alliance" To Halt US Aggression Abroad | Zero Hedge 724788;1403196153;assbot;Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin within the Reach of the IMF by Nicholas Plassaras :: SSRN 724789;1403196774;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0666 = 1.0656 BTC [-] {2} 724790;1403196957;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.06659999 = 0.999 BTC [-] {2} 724791;1403196980;HeySteve;yeah bitstein, seems russia are a move ahead again 724792;1403197003;HeySteve;mircea_popescu I am away now but will be back in about 8 hours or so 724793;1403197019;HeySteve;cheers all 724794;1403197026;kakobrekla;good luck 724795;1403197243;BingoBoingo;moiety: went well 724796;1403197351;moiety;:D brilliant BingoBoingo! When will they get in touch? 724797;1403197366;BingoBoingo;Late next week after the other interviews. 724798;1403197399;BingoBoingo;I think I've got this one. 724799;1403197443;BingoBoingo;Only two other people get interviewed 724800;1403197708;pankkake;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/yo-app-1-million-dollars_n_5507634.html 724801;1403197708;assbot;An App That Does Nothing Except Say 'Yo' Raises One. Million. Dollars. 724802;1403197832;moiety;sorry for delay, just spilled coffee everywhere, which is really useful. only two others is even better BingoBoingo. do you think they will call? they're usually pretty good for that here 724803;1403197870;moiety;some people just make you wait on a letter which is just crap 724804;1403197910;BingoBoingo;moiety: They said they will. I think some things attractive about the job to me (odd hours, duties from four other people's jobs) are going to come out as turnoff in the other interviews. 724805;1403197967;moiety;exciting times! i think i've been more nervous than you today! 724806;1403198080;BingoBoingo;I also encountered one of asciilifeform's defective birds earlier in the day. 724807;1403198130;pankkake;;;later tell bitcoinpete your latest post reminds me of the http://trollscience.com/ "infinite money" 724808;1403198131;assbot;Science You Wish Were True :: Troll Science 724809;1403198131;gribble;The operation succeeded. 724810;1403198141;BingoBoingo;Attacked my windshield, and then was made to comply with a standard 724811;1403198732;BingoBoingo;'Murica http://www.salon.com/2014/06/19/honey_boo_boo_is_a_monster_what_reality_tv_did_to_the_pint_size_pageant_queen/ 724812;1403198732;assbot;Honey Boo Boo is a monster: What reality TV did to the pint-size pageant queen - Salon.com 724813;1403199234;pankkake;…where the author realizes tv is fake. duh 724814;1403199277;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: birds ? 724815;1403199470;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Defective bird attacked my windshield. Unlike the bird that attacked your window... THis one could only make one attempt before being corrected by physics. 724816;1403199629;pankkake;!up aabtc 724817;1403199629;asciilifeform;helps when window moves. 724818;1403199701;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Indeed, self defending window. Only mess was some feathers and dust. 724819;1403199726;kakobrekla;!up bigtip 724820;1403199792;asciilifeform;pankkake, BingoBoingo: https://vimeo.com/68401939 724821;1403199793;assbot;Simpsons - Thermodynamic 2nd Law on Vimeo 724822;1403199927;pankkake;lol /r/litecoin is bagholding so damn hard 724823;1403199966;BingoBoingo;%book 724824;1403199967;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 50k@161 216k@160 500k@151 724825;1403200110;BingoBoingo;%ticker 724826;1403200111;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 201 24h-Vol: 58k High: 201 Low: 200 VWAP: 200 724827;1403200141;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/28k4v8/why_does_everybody_lie_and_say_that_litecoin_is/ lol so butthurt 724828;1403200142;assbot;Why does everybody lie and say that Litecoin is faster than Bitcoin? : litecoin 724829;1403200370;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Like with winnie the pooh do the Russians have a less jaundiced Simpsons? 724830;1403200382;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: not afaik 724831;1403200392;BingoBoingo;Shame 724832;1403200396;pankkake;they have winnie the poo? 724833;1403200436;asciilifeform;pankkake: e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5swOZ1EYk 724834;1403200437;assbot; . . HD ! - YouTube 724835;1403200583;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/update/ 724836;1403201654;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0666 = 1.0656 BTC [+] 724837;1403203484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.2259989 = 21.4699 BTC [-] 724838;1403203667;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1890 @ 0.00082419 = 1.5577 BTC [-] 724839;1403204678;moiety;!up frank1e 724840;1403205252;ThickAsThieves;<+asciilifeform> 'Avarus, Inc. (“we”, “us”, “our”) was incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware on September 20, 2010. The Company was originally organized as a “blank check” shell Company to investigate and acquire a target company or business seeking the perceived advantages of being a publicly held corporation.' << lol! /// The Havelock System 724841;1403205433;moiety;so do bits go missing from logs if assbot isn't here? 724842;1403205473;mike_c;yup 724843;1403205512;moiety;ah, thanks 724844;1403205751;FabianB;$traded 724845;1403205751;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.BBET S.MPOE 724846;1403205813;FabianB;aha, S.BBET during netsplit 724847;1403205839;benkay;gorgeous power politics: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fracking/10911942/Russia-in-secret-plot-against-fracking-Nato-chief-says.html 724848;1403205839;assbot;Russia in secret plot against fracking, Nato chief says - Telegraph 724849;1403205958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00082513 = 15.0174 BTC [+] {2} 724850;1403205958;benkay;http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/servers/onmetal/ 724851;1403206490;benkay;http://thecodelesscode.com/case/26 724852;1403206490;assbot;The Codeless Code: Case 26 The Uncorrected Monk 724853;1403207250;asciilifeform;'Perhaps the Russians are worried about our huge wind and solar potential, and have infiltrated the UK Government.' << lol. wreckers. 724854;1403207953;benkay;wreckers? 724855;1403208000;asciilifeform;benkay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people 724856;1403208000;assbot;Enemy of the people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 724857;1403208074;benkay;myeah 724858;1403208076;benkay;thx 724859;1403208730;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/bolivias-central-bank-bans-bitcoin-digital-currencies/ 724860;1403208730;assbot;Bolivia's Central Bank Bans Bitcoin and All Digital Currencies 724861;1403209058;benkay;pankkake: it begins :) 724862;1403209087;benkay;argentina had a chance to do the same before the Migration 724863;1403209172;chetty;benkay, but argentina has this habit of doing different than everyone else 724864;1403209237;benkay;i wouldn't really know 724865;1403209246;benkay;haven't been around long enough or read enough 724866;1403209491;thestringpuller;!mpif 724867;1403209492;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021682 BTC (Total: 433.65 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 724868;1403209513;thestringpuller;!jd mpif 724869;1403209513;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.39784744 BTC; +0.37267627 BTC (+0.2179%) since last check 1d 9h 3m 49s ago. 724870;1403209763;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 724871;1403209763;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021682 100 @ 0.00021674 100 @ 0.00021667 100 @ 0.00021664 724872;1403209764;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 444 @ 0.00021726 56 @ 0.00023900 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 724873;1403211572;chetty;http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/wikileaks-publish-secret-trade-services-agreement-tisa-financial-services-annex/ 724874;1403211573;assbot;Wikileaks Publish Secret Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) - Financial Services Annex 724875;1403211597;mircea_popescu;yo 724876;1403211644;benkay;o hai 724877;1403211751;mircea_popescu;how goes! 724878;1403211767;benkay;NEED MOAR DEALS 724879;1403211782;mircea_popescu;"Hello, mpex.co is under ddos. To stop the attack, send 0.25 BTC to 1DNExFs45Tmfyxp3aG9k9HQ1q6euWB7Sus 724880;1403211782;mircea_popescu;It's one time payment, after which you will not hear from me again (and you are free to publish my name and email on your blog)" 724881;1403211783;benkay;monster is hungry and must be appeased 724882;1403211786;mircea_popescu;did this actually happen ? 724883;1403211787;mircea_popescu;i was out 724884;1403211821;mircea_popescu;o wait, i guess i didn't miss anything. "If you don't pay me now, tomorrow price will increase to 0.5 BTC." 724885;1403211854;asciilifeform;what kind of turdmeister asks for 1/4 btc ?! 724886;1403211867;chetty;uh isnt a ddos supposed ot make page load slow? fail 724887;1403211875;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00082155 = 13.4323 BTC [-] {4} 724888;1403211876;FabianB;lol 724889;1403211879;mircea_popescu;ask me not. 724890;1403211880;asciilifeform;well it was dead earlier today 724891;1403211889;mike_c;chetty: he paid him ;) 724892;1403211896;chetty;right 724893;1403211899;asciilifeform;guess the hand-cranked spamatron operator grew tired 724894;1403211899;mircea_popescu;i did ?! 724895;1403211909;mircea_popescu;hand cranked spamatron lol 724896;1403211987;mircea_popescu;i can't stop imagining various hand-cranked things 724897;1403211991;mircea_popescu;battleship. 724898;1403211999;mircea_popescu;offset press 724899;1403212011;mircea_popescu;john deere corn processor 724900;1403212027;asciilifeform;fridge. 724901;1403212058;mircea_popescu;ithink fridge, phone and washing machine actulaly existed 724902;1403212070;mircea_popescu;and dildo/vibrator, prolly. 724903;1403212074;asciilifeform;laugh now 724904;1403212075;asciilifeform;cry later: 724905;1403212077;asciilifeform;https://musingsonentropy.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/the-killcap-refrigerator-working-title 724906;1403212079;assbot;The KillCap Refrigerator | musings on entropy 724907;1403212096;asciilifeform;'...the machine I would most like to develop is a pedal powered refrigerator and possibly freezer.' 724908;1403212121;benkay;why fridges spill all the cold air out every time one opens them, i'll never understand. 724909;1403212130;mircea_popescu;so did england justget eliminated ? 724910;1403212143;asciilifeform;('absorption' type fridge fueled with the bugger's own fat would be considerably more efficient. but for some reason he did not suggest this variant.) 724911;1403212202;asciilifeform;benkay: i once worked with laboratory (-80C) units that didn't. a pump moved the cold air to reservoir when you turned the handle. room air pumped in, door opens. reverse when close hadle. 724912;1403212204;asciilifeform;*handle 724913;1403212271;benkay;is this...sane? 724914;1403212296;asciilifeform;afaik this was to keep co2 crystals from covering everything 724915;1403212303;asciilifeform;(they still seemed to do so) 724916;1403212323;mircea_popescu;i think if they did it the other way you couldn't pass 724917;1403212323;asciilifeform;(that, and ice) 724918;1403212354;mircea_popescu;so i go to this place where i normally have an orange juice "exprimido" which means freshly pressed with a two liter bottle, asked them to fill it 724919;1403212368;mircea_popescu;girly is like... well you ok to wait a little ? we gotta send someone to buy oranges. 724920;1403212396;mircea_popescu;im more than happy to wait for real fresh juice 724921;1403212500;kakobrekla;it ends here? 724922;1403212518;kakobrekla;where is the "fuck off im outta here?" 724923;1403212533;nubbins`;http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/19/dov-charney-american-apparel 724924;1403212533;assbot;American Apparel sacks Dov Charney as chairman and suspends him as CEO | Business | The Guardian 724925;1403212537;nubbins`;^ i lel'd 724926;1403212632;nubbins`;the fucked part is at the end where it says blank tees retail in their shops for 30GBP 724927;1403212634;nubbins`;:0 724928;1403212654;nubbins`;i mean, i know london is far from L.A. 724929;1403212661;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla i just read teh newspaper 724930;1403212668;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20808 @ 0.00081773 = 17.0153 BTC [-] {2} 724931;1403212674;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what'd he do anyway ? 724932;1403212689;nubbins`;just general sleaze, other execs got tired of it 724933;1403212699;nubbins`;oh and the whole losing $100m last year i guess didn't help 724934;1403213247;punkman;morning 724935;1403213450;mircea_popescu;ah 724936;1403213452;mircea_popescu;!up publio 724937;1403213509;nubbins`;evening, punkman 724938;1403213516;publio;thanks mp 724939;1403213791;mircea_popescu;sure. 724940;1403214104;publio;since btc is being touted as a replacement for fiat, has anybody been following the btcusd:xauusd ratio? 724941;1403214116;mircea_popescu;not much 724942;1403214124;benkay;;;ticker --currency xau 724943;1403214135;gribble;Bitstamp BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.480816, Best ask: 0.480832, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 0.480832, 24 hour volume: 3043.21557294, 24 hour low: 0.480832, 24 hour high: 0.487984, 24 hour vwap: 0.0 724944;1403214169;benkay;publio: ^^ 724945;1403214176;mircea_popescu;fwiw. 724946;1403214182;publio;gold shot up $40 today, yet btc is flat 724947;1403214193;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.06899998 = 2.76 BTC [+] 724948;1403214221;mircea_popescu;the relation is very slight. 724949;1403214230;nubbins`;;;bc,xau 724950;1403214241;gribble;1 XAU = 1319.300000000000 USD = 2.19700249792 BTC 724951;1403214252;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/pgRiYFC 724952;1403214253;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 724953;1403214281;nubbins`;"what's a zero in roman noomerels?" 724954;1403214312;benkay;oh god 724955;1403214323;punkman;lol 724956;1403214327;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.6 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 31(Y):69(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.16199681 BTC. Current weight: 9,848. 724957;1403214332;nubbins`;"just draw it with corners" 724958;1403214351;benkay;roman numerals 2.3 724959;1403214401;mircea_popescu;ahaha 724960;1403214421;mircea_popescu;MMXV, II0IV, same shit 724961;1403214462;nubbins`;nod 724962;1403214500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06810728 = 0.7492 BTC [-] {2} 724963;1403214501;mircea_popescu;and then i rant about how us people don't speak latin. what speak latin lol. 724964;1403214532;mircea_popescu;jurov: mircea_popescu: can i open D.BBS and short my shares there? << what'd be d.bbs ? 724965;1403214547;nubbins`;blackberry sextenger 724966;1403214563;mircea_popescu;jurov: anyway i'd be surprised if schmucks who may buy D.* have mpex or at least coinbr accounts *and* whole bitcoins <<< are you saying the claim that someone "invested" 30mn usd in bitpay are false ? 724967;1403214563;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/con-alma-de-tango/ 724968;1403214753;mircea_popescu;mike_c:whereas bitpay investors will get rich. << how'd you go about it ? 724969;1403214794;mike_c;well, acquisition is liquidity event for bitpay investors, but if appropriately priced would not affect acquirer's short-term market cap. 724970;1403214816;mircea_popescu;but also if appropriately priced it'd be priced at 0. 724971;1403214845;nubbins`;heh 724972;1403214850;mike_c;to rephrase: buying a $1b asset does not change market cap. 724973;1403214854;mircea_popescu;anyway, reason the contracts aren't signed yet is because i wanna see what the general community thinks 724974;1403214915;mircea_popescu;buying a 1bn asset for 1bn does not change book value 724975;1403214923;mike_c;right. 724976;1403214983;mike_c;it just feels like a situation where bitpay fiat investors would clean up but d.bpay investors could lose big. 724977;1403215022;mircea_popescu;alternatively, bitpay gets sold for $50k to facebook, which moves up 25% that month 724978;1403215035;mircea_popescu;bitpay fiat investors get wiped, d.bpay make bank 724979;1403215060;mircea_popescu;there's really very little way to price fraudulent sales. 724980;1403215073;mircea_popescu;facebook can announce a 20bn buy of something worth 0 any time it pleases. 724981;1403215075;mircea_popescu;odds are it will do so. 724982;1403215095;mircea_popescu;if actual bitcoin is at stake, it doing so becomes a certainty. 724983;1403215130;mike_c;yeah.. but if the returns are not well connected to the returns fiat investors see (btc forex risk ignored) it may not have the effect you are looking for. 724984;1403215165;mircea_popescu;well, fortuntely economy is additive. 724985;1403215173;mircea_popescu;anyway, do you see a constructive solution ? 724986;1403215203;mike_c;i'm not sure i see one you will like. 724987;1403215216;mircea_popescu;let me be the judge of that lol 724988;1403215246;mike_c;well, facebook doesn't just announce a 20bn purchase. they are public, they have to record what they pay. 724989;1403215276;mike_c;so you could use that purchase price. this does get complicated with (cash + stock + incentives) though. 724990;1403215277;mircea_popescu;to some degree 724991;1403215303;mircea_popescu;but no, in general the "purchase price" is more of a pr device than an accounting device these days 724992;1403215362;mike_c;there are both, the PR and the accounting. the PR being cash + stock + incentives. but cash + stock is accounting 724993;1403215396;mike_c;of course, the stock is generally restricted.. 724994;1403215409;mike_c;it's complicated. i'll ponder some more. 724995;1403215446;mike_c;in case you didn't realize, it's complicated! :D 724996;1403215483;mircea_popescu;:) 724997;1403215526;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: 724998;1403215527;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete cut them some slack, they have to consider the long-reaching consequences of renaming "satoshis"...whatever will the altcoins think if they do? <<< course this is long ago resolved, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/#identifier_4_47551 724999;1403215530;assbot;MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 725000;1403215552;mircea_popescu;not entirely sure why the foundation derps think anyone asked them anything on the score, but then again... it's kinda what they do, isn't it. 725001;1403217277;bitcoinpete;;;later tell pankkake lol yup, this is pretty much it http://trollscience.com/troll/view/8147 725002;1403217278;assbot;Infinite money! :: Troll Science 725003;1403217278;gribble;The operation succeeded. 725004;1403217313;bitcoinpete;;;later tell fluffypony doesn't this remind you of usagi? http://trollscience.com/troll/view/8117 725005;1403217313;assbot;No more expired Milk! :: Troll Science 725006;1403217313;gribble;The operation succeeded. 725007;1403217616;TheNewDeal;bc,stats 725008;1403217620;TheNewDeal;;;bc,stats 725009;1403217622;gribble;Current Blocks: 306715 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1732 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 48 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 14691342334.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.12724 725010;1403217789;mike_c;!jd mpif 725011;1403217789;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.84862188 BTC; +0.45077444 BTC (+0.2630%) since last check 2h 17m 56s ago. 725012;1403217876;mike_c;whoops, somebody just dropped 60 btc on JD. there goes another startup. 725013;1403218011;bitcoinpete;looking good, TheNewDeal 725014;1403218112;TheNewDeal;for sure 725015;1403218211;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: mircea_popescu i found our term for 10'000 satoshi: satoshi's calf http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/cow_s_calf_1 725016;1403218212;assbot;Cow's calf is Cockney Rhyming Slang for 50 pence! 725017;1403218266;bitcoinpete;cow's calf is the only slang term for half a quid i could find 725018;1403218409;punkman;bitcoinpete: why don't we call it a moiety 725019;1403218481;moiety;please do! :D 725020;1403218483;bitcoinpete;punkman: that would be quite the honour 725021;1403218499;moiety;moiety means one half of a whole anyways 725022;1403218836;mircea_popescu; whoops, somebody just dropped 60 btc on JD. there goes another startup. << lmao 725023;1403218859;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete i recall it was discussed here back then, FabianB came up with an azn term 725024;1403218863;mircea_popescu;guxy or something 725025;1403218916;bitcoinpete;a ic 725026;1403218945;bitcoinpete;"So let’s recognize the world has changed a bit over the last two decades and call them for what they are. These aren’t startups - and most of the upside from investing in these companies comes before they even go public, not after the fact." 725027;1403218949;bitcoinpete;http://blog.louisgray.com/2014/06/the-myth-of-billion-dollar-startup.html 725028;1403218949;assbot; louisgray.com: The Myth of the Billion Dollar Startup 725029;1403218969;bitcoinpete;speaking of d.btgo and d.bpay 725030;1403219000;mircea_popescu;course the problem here is mpex is kinda the billion dollar start-up 725031;1403219013;mircea_popescu;or at least was, before inept management and so forth killed half its value :D 725032;1403219066;punkman;mircea_popescu: when did mpex peak? 725033;1403219092;mircea_popescu;i think when btc was 1.2k 725034;1403219102;mircea_popescu;in dollar syou mean ? 725035;1403219107;punkman;in btc 725036;1403219147;punkman;never mind ;) 725037;1403219186;mircea_popescu;in btc it sorta fought for 1 like 3 or 4 times 725038;1403219220;punkman;about this time last year 725039;1403219257;bitcoinpete;1 guxy/moiety/satoshi's calf, that is... 725040;1403219295;mod6;punkman: here's a chart: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ 725041;1403219296;assbot;S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha 725042;1403219301;bitcoinpete;"I have found that being nice builds your reputation. I have found that leaving money on the table, and being generous, pays dividends." << fred wilson 725043;1403219306;bitcoinpete;http://avc.com/2014/06/be-nice-or-leave/ 725044;1403219307;assbot;Be Nice Or Leave AVC 725045;1403219333;mircea_popescu;what's avc again ? 725046;1403219345;mircea_popescu;i'd like to short that idiocy. 725047;1403219351;punkman;is a blog 725048;1403219352;mthreat;he's a VC from NYC. 725049;1403219395;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/fredwilson 725050;1403219396;assbot;Fred Wilson (fredwilson) auf Twitter 725051;1403219397;mircea_popescu;mthreat no i know who the guy is, just, avc didn't compute 725052;1403219412;mircea_popescu;but whatever, leave hius blog. i wasn't even there. 725053;1403219909;TheNewDeal;anyone know of the mpoe vwap of the entirety of 2013? 725054;1403219931;TheNewDeal;just curious 725055;1403220615;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFUKK6c_seY 725056;1403220615;assbot;Chet Baker "Summertime" - YouTube 725057;1403220950;TheNewDeal;can't believe someone put down 1.6 on BTC above 800 before july. 5 days ago would have had twice the timweight 725058;1403220960;bitcoinpete;saw that 725059;1403220964;bitcoinpete;bizarre 725060;1403220974;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/niccary/status/479241161568038912 725061;1403220975;assbot;Reddit asks. Reddit gets. /hashtag/sneakpeak?src=hash /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash iOS /Apple coming soon http://t.co/pmdlO4KAyb 725062;1403220983;bitcoinpete;as is cary's pandering 725063;1403221012;TheNewDeal;even stranger. Go look at the last 2 bets on bastille day 725064;1403221119;decimation;;;later tell Mats_cd03 I apologize for logging - I had to get some sleep for an early morning. I generally check the logs within a few days, so it's still productive to write for the record. 725065;1403221119;gribble;The operation succeeded. 725066;1403221127;bitcoinpete;TheNewDeal lol such weight 725067;1403221210;punkman;last 3 Yes bets on bastille bet are losers 725068;1403221334;decimation;re: wreckers - sounds like a good description of the environmental lobby to me. bring back RSFSR penal code article 58 725069;1403221456;TheNewDeal;wtf is going on blockchain.info 725070;1403221476;TheNewDeal;nvm must not refresh like I thought 725071;1403221493;asciilifeform;decimation: wreckers << brought up because of brits blaming russian agents for 'discounting our wonderful renewable energy potential' 725072;1403221604;bitcoinpete;off to the library... 725073;1403221758;decimation;yeah that's stupid. If I were Russia I would fund the environmentalists to protest sane solutions like nuclear fission and promote insane solutions like wind 725074;1403221789;decimation;supporting the losers who oppose the new pantheism of our elites would be dumb 725075;1403221815;asciilifeform;where do you imagine us/euro enviro-whiners came from 725076;1403221844;decimation;hehe yeah exactly. And the wreckers (kulaks, rednecks, red-staters, etc) are all the same 'round the world 725077;1403222637;benkay; wtf is going on blockchain.info // have they gone evil yet? 725078;1403222679;TheNewDeal;haha possibly. I was just looking at the website and apparently only the first block on the top was refreshing. List read 306725 , 306719, 306718.... 725079;1403222694;TheNewDeal;thought GHASH pulled a sneaky one and solved like 6 blocks in a row 725080;1403222742;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.0001 * 600 725081;1403222742;gribble;0.06 725082;1403222767;TheNewDeal;miners fee? 725083;1403222799;thestringpuller;;;calc 0.001 * 600 725084;1403222799;gribble;0.6 725085;1403222809;thestringpuller;wow this site wants to use 0.001 as a miners fee 725086;1403222810;thestringpuller;bold 725087;1403222827;thestringpuller;that's like jurov's 0.02 withdrawal fee lol 725088;1403222908;TheNewDeal;hahahaha 725089;1403224796;asciilifeform;;;rate Mats_cd03 1 voice 725090;1403224798;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Mats_cd03 has been recorded. 725091;1403224827;assbot;Mats_cd03 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 725092;1403225174;asciilifeform;!up Mats_cd03 725093;1403225211;Mats_cd03;har har 725094;1403225292;asciilifeform;;;rate mats 1 temporary voice 725095;1403225294;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded. 725096;1403225349;decimation;Did you lose your voice mats ? 725097;1403225480;Mats_cd03;i lost my gpg passphrase 725098;1403225491;Mats_cd03;much shame upon family 725099;1403225538;decimation;sucks :( I will take this as a reminder to test out my backup arrangements 725100;1403226193;Mats_cd03;in this instance, my brain was the failure mode 725101;1403226280;Mats_cd03;http://www.brookings.edu/events/2014/06/10-defense-department-information-technology-acquisition 725102;1403226281;assbot;Moore's Law Goes To War: How Can The Department Of Defense Keep Pace With Changes In IT? | Brookings Institution 725103;1403226295;Mats_cd03;fucking academics... moore's law is dead 725104;1403226857;BingoBoingo;%book 725105;1403226860;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 725106;1403227337;BingoBoingo;!up Mats_cd03 725107;1403227364;kakobrekla;he can do that himself nao 725108;1403227369;kakobrekla;unless lost pass again. 725109;1403227477;BingoBoingo;You never know... 725110;1403228433;decimation;re: moore's law http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/18/intel_fpga_custom_chip/ 725111;1403228434;assbot;Intel reveals its FrankenChip ARM killer: one FPGA and one Xeon IN ONE SOCKET The Register 725112;1403229067;asciilifeform;decimation: for some years, there were fpga on the market that fit into an intel or amd cpu socket 725113;1403229090;asciilifeform;decimation: built by nallatech (nsa contractor) and a few other outfits. thus, golden toilet prices 725114;1403229127;decimation;it is interesting, but there's no word on the details, like dynamic reconfiguration 725115;1403229129;asciilifeform;but at least these were traditional fpga and one could (at least in the case of xilinx) use linux toolchain, traditional vhdl/verilog, etc 725116;1403229148;decimation;you think that won't be the case with this intel chip? 725117;1403229156;asciilifeform;in the case of the intel product, even if it is placed on open market - you'll have to wait for reverse-engineered loader 725118;1403229182;asciilifeform;(intel never once in its entire life published anything but a mockery of 'open source.' see their 'open' bios, for example.) 725119;1403229185;decimation;but... this is intel's solution to "open" arm competition. Why would they start with a proprietary toolchain? 725120;1403229226;asciilifeform;this is merely idiocy of the journalist 725121;1403229236;asciilifeform;afaik there is no mass-market arm/fpga combo ic 725122;1403229287;decimation;no, but somehow according to the journalist companies like google would prefer to buy this intel fpga/cpu rather than an arm chip 725123;1403229288;asciilifeform;(actually there may be. fpga/cpu combo is a dime a dozen - xilinx made ppc/fpga cores for ages. but a modern pc arch cpu is something rather else) 725124;1403229310;BingoBoingo;PPC's modern 725125;1403229314;decimation;I'm pretty sure altera makes an fpga with an arm core 725126;1403229316;asciilifeform;modern clock rate 725127;1403229323;decimation;probably ... in an intel fab 725128;1403229361;asciilifeform;idea is, intel fears for its life, because x86 (and all the compatibility kludges that enable 20 years of crapola to run) is doomed. 725129;1403229387;BingoBoingo;Ah, features like an MMU aren't enough anymore. Now your need the pretense of "fast" 725130;1403229391;asciilifeform;danger of sane folks moving onto linux/arm (or whatever other arch) 725131;1403229394;decimation;aside from the journalist, there is an implict admission from intel here ... "We have no idea how to organize the transistors on our chip, here - have an FPGA" 725132;1403229399;asciilifeform;so gotta keep x86/winblows relevant somehow 725133;1403229409;asciilifeform;this is a lock-in play. 725134;1403229425;decimation;well, it's already happened on the mobile world - which is the only world selling chips in large quantities 725135;1403229465;asciilifeform;intel did once propose to stuff x86 turdballs in phones - to laughter around the world 725136;1403229477;decimation;intel's afraid that google et. al. will switch to arm in the server room - leaving the x86 market to ... nobody at all 725137;1403229496;asciilifeform;well, the high end 725138;1403229500;decimation;even those xscale chips that flopped weren't x86 as I recall 725139;1403229501;asciilifeform;(where their margin is fattest) 725140;1403229515;decimation;yeah there's still the "computing" computing market that mostly uses xeons 725141;1403229515;asciilifeform;xscale was their attempt at the true microcontroller market 725142;1403229525;decimation;but I don't think intel is going to survive on xeon chips alone 725143;1403229586;asciilifeform;the only people truly married to x86 are the folks bound to microshit 725144;1403229595;asciilifeform;i think at this point this isn't really controversial 725145;1403229617;decimation;and the scientific computing market is not wed to microshit 725146;1403229631;decimation;so if there is a serious linux based alternative cpu for them -- they are gone 725147;1403229649;asciilifeform;there is a reason we have the word - 'wintel' 725148;1403229657;asciilifeform;the two are 'partners in crime' 725149;1403229677;decimation;they still might sell some low end chips to idiots who want to run word or whatever 725150;1403229720;decimation;microsoft is pretty much in the same position 725151;1403229730;decimation;there are some games and business software that they have lock-in on 725152;1403229737;decimation;but that's also looking like a pretty niche market 725153;1403229776;thestringpuller;profitable. it is good starting money asset wise 725154;1403229795;thestringpuller;ooos mt 725155;1403229822;thestringpuller;video games rule 725156;1403229832;decimation;intel market cap 150B; microsoft market cap 342B 725157;1403229843;decimation;at least intel can lease fabs to third parties 725158;1403229854;asciilifeform;recall how intel helped ms to cripple os/2 725159;1403229858;asciilifeform;(secret instructions) 725160;1403229876;decimation;yeah this whole affair reminds me very much of os/2 725161;1403229883;decimation;except now microsoft is the out-of-touch monopoly with no ideas 725162;1403229895;asciilifeform;intel is ms hardware arm. 725163;1403229906;asciilifeform;has been nothing but this, since 1990 or so. 725164;1403229923;BingoBoingo;The piece of software most damaging to progress in computing in history has probably been Microsoft Office 725165;1403229932;asciilifeform;ms on the other hand is... usg department of compyooting. 725166;1403229950;decimation;yeah that's true, the only organization on earth that will voluntarily use ms is the usg 725167;1403229968;asciilifeform;only when seen in this light do the facts begin to make sense. 725168;1403230014;decimation;"you want to get paid? well, you better write your TPS reports in MS so we can give you tax dollars" 725169;1403230020;TheNewDeal;hahaha 725170;1403230069;decimation;this turns into "everyone" uses ms to transact business, we have no choice... 725171;1403230126;decimation;http://www.networkworld.com/article/2162519/windows/dod-saves--100m-a-year-with-new-microsoft-licensing-deal.html 725172;1403230127;assbot;DOD saves $100M a year with new Microsoft licensing deal | Network World 725173;1403230155;TheNewDeal;that's like the people who clip out all the coupons and then go shopping to save money 725174;1403230184;decimation;if you total the amount of money spent on microsoft over the years, USG could have built its own secure OS and secure hardware to run it on 725175;1403230200;asciilifeform;as if this was ever a goal. 725176;1403230241;decimation;that's pretty much the mission statement of the nsa, gov't labs, et al 725177;1403230256;decimation;note that very little progress has been made 725178;1403230260;asciilifeform;usg has exactly the os it wants. 725179;1403230294;Apocalyptic;heh 725180;1403230329;asciilifeform;and intel products are the very same ideas, incarnated as hardware. 725181;1403230390;asciilifeform;(decades of legacy crud, endless mine of 'plausibly deniable' bug, documentation that would fill an entire bookcase and - when available - in heavily censored version, etc.) 725182;1403230429;*;asciilifeform blows dust of volumes of intel & amd cpu manual 725183;1403230440;asciilifeform;^ what isn't in there is considerably more interesting than what is 725184;1403230491;asciilifeform;example: 725185;1403230503;asciilifeform;the only real source of genuine documentation on intel cpu initialization is: 725186;1403230509;asciilifeform;leaked AMI bios from a few years ago. 725187;1403230530;asciilifeform;(*leaked source) 725188;1403230623;asciilifeform;very telling detail - neither intel nor amd publish microcode documentation. (intel's microcode loader is known only from the leaked ami src, afaik. amd's is public. intel crypts their patches, amd - no. both release opaque binary blobs for microcode, no docs.) 725189;1403230671;decimation;it is odd that one of the companies doesn't try to be open to get more market share 725190;1403230686;asciilifeform;lol 725191;1403230726;asciilifeform;intel is arm of usg. amd - produces clones at the crown's pleasure (see agreement with intel) 725192;1403230737;asciilifeform;stops playing ball - no more clone. 725193;1403230791;decimation;but it's probably the case that if you are correct - that these microcode patches may weaken usg's own infrastructure 725194;1403230802;BingoBoingo;I keep telling people an OpenSparc *nix netbook would sell 725195;1403230819;asciilifeform;usg is not interested in securing own infrastructure in this sense. 725196;1403230823;asciilifeform;see, e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 725197;1403230824;assbot;Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. 725198;1403230856;decimation;I need to read Eco's book, I've seen it mentioned in many places 725199;1403230860;asciilifeform;first rule of usg comsec - secure machine must not come to exist, the wrong folks might use it. 725200;1403230885;asciilifeform;kbg followed same rule, with soviet 'gost' cipher scheme 725201;1403230952;asciilifeform;note the observation about how no known u.s. military crypto gizmo allows generation of keys by the operator. ever. 725202;1403230964;asciilifeform;all keys come from the continent. 725203;1403230972;asciilifeform;(no prizes for guessing why) 725204;1403231030;asciilifeform;usg concept of seekoority -> controlled porosity. 725205;1403231050;Mats_cd03;http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/06/19/mulling_iraq_options_begin_by_telling_me_which_of_these_groups_you_want_to_bomb passable writeup of factions 725206;1403231051;assbot;Mulling Iraq options: Begin by telling me which of these groups you want to bomb 725207;1403231071;asciilifeform;because 'sane machine for me but not for thee' doesn't work - can't guarantee future loyalty of the folks you issue the hardware to. 725208;1403231114;decimation;yeah that's an interesting theory 725209;1403231299;decimation;plenty of hard drives have aes "built-in", supposedly 725210;1403231347;decimation;ie http://news.softpedia.com/news/Stonewood-039-s-Eclypt-Drive-the-AES-256-Data-Fortress-84632.shtml 725211;1403231348;assbot;Stonewood's Eclypt Drive: the AES-256 Data Fortress 725212;1403231612;thestringpuller;;;gettrust gigavps 725213;1403231613;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user gigavps: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=gigavps | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gigavps | Rated since: Fri Nov 11 14:47:27 2011 725214;1403231930;BingoBoingo;%book 725215;1403231932;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 725216;1403231956;BingoBoingo;%diff 725217;1403231957;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 434630.21 in 476 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.24 725218;1403232134;BingoBoingo;%ticker 725219;1403232135;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 58k High: 235 Low: 200 VWAP: 200 725220;1403232619;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 725221;1403232630;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.52, Best ask: 594.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 594.0, 24 hour volume: 5350.24576182, 24 hour low: 589.01, 24 hour high: 609.98, 24 hour vwap: 0 725222;1403232676;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21000006 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 725223;1403232746;BingoBoingo;;;lasers 725224;1403232747;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 725225;1403232799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0670001 = 1.34 BTC [-] {2} 725226;1403233591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 725227;1403233956;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/the-man-behind-the-webs-most-controversial-video-site-1592857533 725228;1403233957;assbot;The Man Behind the Web's Most Controversial Video Site 725229;1403234378;moiety;i didn't even know this site existed 725230;1403234449;BingoBoingo;moiety: All of the most interesting videos are on World sStar Hip Hop. 725231;1403234749;moiety;BingoBoingo: including "the killing of 16-year-old Chicago student Derrion Albert in 2009" < also didn't know that was allowed 725232;1403234833;BingoBoingo;moiety: It's pretty much certain parts of urban black 'Murica unedited 725233;1403234857;BingoBoingo;Scares the hell out of white 'Murica 725234;1403235347;moiety;most things do 725235;1403235712;BingoBoingo;You know what's fucked up, Pedestrians in Google street view 725236;1403235765;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: now mostly censored. 725237;1403235786;BingoBoingo;Not in this neighborhood I'm browsing for apartments 725238;1403235786;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: google almost certainly has a sizeable squad devoted solely to this. 725239;1403235813;asciilifeform;if you link it here - i'd bet it will vanish within the year. 725240;1403236195;BingoBoingo;Well, turns out at the right angle face is blurred 725241;1403236203;BingoBoingo;https://www.google.com/maps/@37.722389,-89.223088,3a,75y,66.38h,78.32t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s0__9LObQ7GKja0w_GUKZjA!2e0?hl=en 725242;1403236203;assbot;Google Maps 725243;1403236465;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: what is interesting in this picture ? 725244;1403236543;BingoBoingo;From that position Due East there is a girl. From this angle face is blured. Try noving North or South... No bluring 725245;1403239232;moiety;lol whats the poinbt 725246;1403239235;moiety;point 725247;1403239262;moiety;assange did an ama 725248;1403239293;moiety;http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/28js8v/i_am_julian_assange_publisher_of_wikileaks_ask_me/ pretty good read 725249;1403239294;assbot;I am Julian Assange, publisher of Wikileaks. Ask me anything. : IAmA 725250;1403239414;asciilifeform;mentions of asking the poster to pgp/gpg... 725251;1403239415;asciilifeform;0. 725252;1403239430;asciilifeform;(he could be you, me, hitler) 725253;1403239462;asciilifeform;(is assange even associated with a key?) 725254;1403239660;asciilifeform;decimation: aes hard disk << what actually happens inside the drive? how does one know? this is not a minor detail - it's the beginning and end. 725255;1403239780;moiety;https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikileak/2011/09/why-didnt-julian-assange-use-pgp-properly-when-handing-over-cablescsv-file-to-da.html 725256;1403239782;assbot;Why didn't Julian Assange use PGP properly when handing over the US State Department cables.csv file to David Leigh ?? - WikiLeak 725257;1403240068;asciilifeform;lol at expecting anyone to have sympathy for the folks who lost their heads from cables.csv (assuming any) 725258;1403240087;moiety;asciilifeform: to do an ama, reddit requires proof ... i wonder what form this took for assange 725259;1403240198;asciilifeform;in any country, there is - starting from local constabulary to the national gendarmerie - an archive, with list of stoolies, provocateurs, agents. 725260;1403240206;asciilifeform;sometimes - rarely - mob gets the list. 725261;1403240216;asciilifeform;heads roll. new regime, new list. 725262;1403240243;asciilifeform;(usually heavily borrowed from old. in east germany, how many heads rolled? zero) 725263;1403240280;asciilifeform;when turning stoolie - remember about the list. 725264;1403240315;asciilifeform;'...the names of political dissidents who were in contact with the US Embassy' << 'world's smallest violin' plays. 725265;1403240442;asciilifeform;reminds me of a convo i once had with a former american soldier (remains nameless) 725266;1403240464;asciilifeform;him: 'those motherfuckers, can you believe, they shot my translator the first minute he was alone.' 725267;1403240521;asciilifeform;me: 'say tomorrow chinese come. i learn chinese, become translator. i turn my back to you in dark alley. now what' 725268;1403240774;moiety;what did he say? 725269;1403241000;BingoBoingo;%book 725270;1403241001;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 725271;1403241138;asciilifeform;he didn't say much. possibly - understood. 725272;1403241224;asciilifeform;'More interestingly, many Americans no longer even understand the concepts of loyalty and treasonagain, not surprising, since for a few generations now they have been ruled by traitors, whose routine acts of betrayal are designed to benefit just about anyonefrom Israeli arms smugglers to Afghani heroin dealersexcept the people who supposedly elect them to office.' 725273;1403241232;asciilifeform;(orlov, of course. http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/07/us-swaps-russian-spies-for-russian.html) 725274;1403241232;assbot;ClubOrlov 725275;1403241392;moiety;they are very dedicated to fighting for their country but they don't seem to know truly why 725276;1403242009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21999976 = 1.32 BTC [+] {3} 725277;1403242840;danielpbarron;01:39:44 < Ex0deus> monetary incentive makes people do all the wrong things 725278;1403243227;punkman;http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/NSA-wharpdrive-slide-640x473.jpg 725279;1403243372;asciilifeform;punkman: old. 725280;1403243465;asciilifeform;punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723622 - discussion below 725281;1403243465;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 725282;1403244749;punkman;asciilifeform: I liked that slide 725283;1403244775;punkman;http://www.andrewcusack.com/2011/02/14/mamarazza/ 725284;1403244776;assbot;Mamarazza | andrewcusack.com 725285;1403245423;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 725286;1403245433;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.88204254 BTC; +0.03342066 BTC (+0.0194%) since last check 7h 40m 44s ago. 725287;1403245485;BingoBoingo;!mpif 725288;1403245487;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021706 BTC (Total: 434.14 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 725289;1403245489;BingoBoingo;!jd 725290;1403245489;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 18936 BTC profit, 51.7k BTC invested, 1260.27 mio bets, 5.31 mio BTC wagered 725291;1403246112;BingoBoingo;Delusionist >> http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/were-telling-england-theres-a-chance/ 725292;1403246113;assbot;We’re Telling England There’s a Chance! | FiveThirtyEight 725293;1403246426;moiety;someone just told me the scottish accent was their favourite english accent -_- 725294;1403246470;BingoBoingo;Did you correct them... 725295;1403246491;moiety;i said that's like me saying the american accent is my favourite canadian accent 725296;1403246520;moiety;apparently they meant english language and just said it wrong.... 725297;1403246531;BingoBoingo;No, it's like saying the Boston accent is your favorite Southern drawl 725298;1403246533;BingoBoingo;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10909671/Scientists-find-Achilles-heel-of-antibiotic-resistant-bacteria.html 725299;1403246533;assbot;Scientists find Achilles' heel of antibiotic resistant bacteria - Telegraph 725300;1403246546;BingoBoingo;Which organism mentioned does not belong... 725301;1403246570;moiety;at least they are both in the same country 725302;1403246601;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla: We're in trouble http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/20/0038251/draper-labs-develops-low-cost-probe-to-orbit-land-on-europa-for-nasa 725303;1403246602;assbot;Draper Labs Develops Low Cost Probe To Orbit, Land On Europa For NASA - Slashdot 725304;1403246610;BingoBoingo;moiety: They don't want to be though 725305;1403246714;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0689999 = 0.966 BTC [+] 725306;1403246927;BingoBoingo;!Whysofewtrades 725307;1403247045;*;BingoBoingo remembers the days assbot was ignored as spamzor #1 725308;1403247131;punkman;I'm surprised nothing more plausible than bitcoinbourse has come up yet 725309;1403247264;BingoBoingo;It's sad to have to say this, but as bad as it is Cryptostocks seems more plausible than bitcoinbourse 725310;1403247297;punkman;not many hitpoints left there 725311;1403247341;BingoBoingo;Well neither venture has many. The question is, which snail is the fastest. 725312;1403247397;BingoBoingo;Well, that was maybe two months ago. Now the question is "Which aquatic snail is the fastest on the Utah salt flats" 725313;1403247604;punkman;the omgdecentralized exchanges are keeping all the great minds occupied 725314;1403248126;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Heretic coin seems dead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459028.msg6551501#msg6551501 725315;1403248127;assbot;[ANN][ALT][Altcoin][scrypt Adaptive N-factor][Random][Fair Launch][No ASIC] 725316;1403248326;fluffypony;you have to feed them news regularly 725317;1403248343;fluffypony;otherwise the natives get restless 725318;1403248369;BingoBoingo;Speaking of Cryptostocks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431195.msg7142898#msg7142898 725319;1403248369;assbot;Diamond Circle - Information memorandum - Ticker 'XDC' - Cryptostocks.com 725320;1403248621;punkman;"NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS DUMP OR ANYTHING?" 725321;1403249360;BingoBoingo;punkman1: These fucking aussies who strike out on their own are a form of the worst. 725322;1403249519;BingoBoingo;punkman: Also is this dude even talking about BTC here or his own invention he bestowed an already occupied name upon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431195.msg5374007#msg5374007 725323;1403249519;assbot;Diamond Circle - Information memorandum - Ticker 'XDC' - Cryptostocks.com 725324;1403250635;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/cookies-loaded-with-50-000-worth-of-cocaine-seized-at-1593545929 725325;1403250635;assbot;Cookies Loaded with $52,000 Worth of Cocaine Seized at Newark Airport 725326;1403251140;BingoBoingo;http://valleywag.gawker.com/real-startup-that-mails-you-quarters-for-laundry-isnt-s-1593540845/+laceydonohue 725327;1403251141;assbot;Real Startup That Mails You Quarters for Laundry Isn't Seeking Funding 725328;1403251168;cazalla;BingoBoingo: didn't you know that the biggest Australian export after resources are bitcoin scams? (inputs.io, hair dresser ipos, kenilworth and on it goes) 725329;1403251207;Apocalyptic;heh 725330;1403251217;BingoBoingo;cazalla: I thought it was sand... 725331;1403251220;Apocalyptic;will be counted into GDP no doubt 725332;1403251416;BingoBoingo;This is basically CoinBase http://washboard.co/ 725333;1403251416;assbot;Washboard 725334;1403251899;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15886 @ 0.00080343 = 12.7633 BTC [-] 725335;1403252265;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00080276 = 11.3189 BTC [-] 725336;1403252265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21209405 = 0.8484 BTC [-] {3} 725337;1403252326;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.20690622 = 4.5519 BTC [-] {3} 725338;1403252387;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.20575862 = 5.967 BTC [-] {2} 725339;1403253072;moiety;!up Vexual please get in the wot, i'll help you 725340;1403253125;Vexual;I'll be less fun if everything I write is signed 725341;1403253404;Vexual;and jurov might want the key when I sell my soul to him 725342;1403253493;Apocalyptic; I'll be less fun if everything I write is signed // you seem to have a misconception here 725343;1403253502;Vexual;hows that? 725344;1403253632;Apocalyptic;having a WoT account doesn't mean everything you write is signed 725345;1403253729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.205 = 0.615 BTC [-] 725346;1403253745;Vexual;no thats true 725347;1403253917;Vexual;afaik no such irc client is in the public domain 725348;1403253957;fluffypony;so with my flight to Estonia on Monday I have normal business class baggage limits - 32kg x2 checked, 8kg x2 hand luggage - but my local flight from here to Joburg has a 20kg *total* baggage limit 725349;1403253967;*;fluffypony is going to get shafted with excess baggage fees 725350;1403254008;fluffypony;R25/kg ($2.33-ish) 725351;1403254076;Vexual;are they hard arse about it? 725352;1403254139;fluffypony;just phoned them - they'll increase my free limit to 30kgs 725353;1403254141;fluffypony;such kindness. 725354;1403254224;Vexual;just put all the gold in your hand luggage and think light thoughts 725355;1403254235;fluffypony;lol 725356;1403254267;xmj;fluffypony: when are you boarding? 725357;1403254274;fluffypony;xmj: Monday night 725358;1403254277;xmj;right 725359;1403254279;xmj;:) 725360;1403254294;xmj;fluffypony: i haven't found the tailor yet. been busy all week 725361;1403254329;fluffypony;no problem - we can always go hunting 725362;1403254355;fluffypony;I land at 1:30pm on Tue 725363;1403254368;xmj;right 725364;1403254369;fluffypony;so we can go hunting in the afternoon 725365;1403254376;xmj;give me a call once you land 725366;1403254379;fluffypony;will do 725367;1403254393;Vexual;what does one hunt in estonia? 725368;1403254473;fluffypony;Vexual: tailors 725369;1403254480;fluffypony;for excellent Eastern European suits 725370;1403254514;Vexual;but where do you get the tweed? 725371;1403254537;fluffypony;it grows naturally in the tweed fields of Southern Estonia 725372;1403254550;Vexual;oh 725373;1403254590;xmj;see, he already knows more about the country i live in than i do. 725374;1403254613;xmj;fluffypony: you're flying from frankfurt with lufthansa 725375;1403254619;fluffypony;yes 725376;1403254621;xmj;do yourself a favor and have fun with the stewardesses. 725377;1403254627;fluffypony;lol 725378;1403254627;xmj;they're usually really cool 725379;1403254634;fluffypony;will do 725380;1403254651;Apocalyptic; for excellent Eastern European suits // curious, I never heard anyone praise EE suits before 725381;1403254655;xmj;whenever i fly fra<>tll i choose one of the last rows, and by the time they're done serving people hang out in the back and chat with them. 725382;1403254676;xmj;just for the lulz. 725383;1403254680;Apocalyptic;Milanese tailors often are 725384;1403254691;xmj;Apocalyptic: mainstream! 725385;1403254698;Apocalyptic;hardly 725386;1403254707;Vexual;too much ball touching 725387;1403254709;xmj;Apocalyptic: average salary level in estonia is 800EUR. 725388;1403254733;xmj;so you'll be able to find a real decent tailor for less than you'd spend in other places. 725389;1403254743;Apocalyptic;that I can agree with 725390;1403254900;pankkake;!up Vexual 725391;1403254917;xmj;Apocalyptic: economics 101:D 725392;1403254967;Apocalyptic;xmj, when I go for excellent i don't look at the price 725393;1403254989;xmj;ya 725394;1403255006;xmj;i work in IT, tshirts are permissible work clothes. 725395;1403255016;xmj;tshirts and shorts in summer ;) 725396;1403255161;pankkake;I wouldn't trust someone in IT with a suit 725397;1403255207;Apocalyptic;as you wouldn't trust someone in finance dressed in a tshirt supposedly 725398;1403255236;pankkake;I wouldn't trust anyone in finance! 725399;1403255332;moiety;lol 725400;1403255352;Vexual;web of no! 725401;1403255703;Vexual;real IT people don't leave the house 725402;1403255719;fluffypony;lol 725403;1403256214;Vexual;150Kpa and get dressed? too much pressure 725404;1403256360;Vexual;it's all about bitcoins per square inch now 725405;1403256601;Vexual;anyone know about the gpg multi irc client? 725406;1403256737;moiety;!up Vexual 725407;1403256817;moiety;no, here you just register with gribble, its really straight forward 725408;1403256880;Vexual;yes im talking of something else entirely 725409;1403256897;BingoBoingo;%book 725410;1403256898;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 725411;1403256910;Vexual;%diff 725412;1403256912;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 432963.19 in 457 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.48 725413;1403256989;Vexual;whats that about a month? 725414;1403257000;BingoBoingo;Maybe? Maybe less? 725415;1403257050;Vexual;;;calc 457*1/24 725416;1403257050;gribble;19.0416666667 725417;1403257066;BingoBoingo;I have to say it looks like bid depth is back in fashion 725418;1403257084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00080343 = 8.35 BTC [+] 725419;1403257267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.068 = 1.088 BTC [-] {3} 725420;1403258637;moiety;!up Vexual 725421;1403258670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.06682465 = 0.6014 BTC [-] {5} 725422;1403258717;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 725423;1403258723;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 585.64, vol: 6505.86423318 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 585.996, vol: 5448.09482 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 586.0, vol: 7981.63740987 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 589.99, vol: 48.0889131 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 595.257585, vol: 2221.48030000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 589.18043, vol: 8.21155122 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 577.943901, vol: 59.93883116 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 725424;1403258731;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.06570882 = 1.5113 BTC [-] {4} 725425;1403259227;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/flying-robocop-is-a-riot-control-octocopter-with-guns-and-lasers/ 725426;1403259227;assbot;Flying RoboCop is a riot control octocopter with guns and lasers | Ars Technica 725427;1403259243;Vexual;;;lasers 725428;1403259243;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 725429;1403259273;moiety;;; laserkittens 725430;1403259274;gribble;ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew* 725431;1403259291;Vexual;wtf 725432;1403259298;moiety;we need manuls with lasers! 725433;1403259363;moiety;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27903742 725434;1403259364;assbot;BBC News - The macabre world of books bound in human skin 725435;1403259948;Vexual;sup nubules? 725436;1403259955;Vexual;nubbins` 725437;1403260012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.06361 = 1.9083 BTC [-] 725438;1403260278;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQjJkLU9Ojo 725439;1403260278;assbot;04. Wiley - Straight Outta London [Creating A Buzz Vol. 1] - YouTube 725440;1403260568;moiety;sorry my internet had a stroke 725441;1403261110;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00080111 = 18.8261 BTC [-] {3} 725442;1403263977;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19516873 = 5.8551 BTC [-] {8} 725443;1403266043;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/20/cash-and-credit-in-a-cryptocurrency-economy-part-1/ 725444;1403266049;kakobrekla;>I just uncovered a problem. I'm using the API to trade. I'm generating orders, and they are accepted by Bitfinex, but thats the extent of it. I have an orderid, time stamp, and the response says the trade is active. They don't get processed, and the history doesn't get updated. I've sent an email to support, but was just wondering if anyone else has seen anything strange like this. Seems to have start after 4:30 this afternoon. Th 725445;1403266049;kakobrekla;last time a trade was written to my history. 725446;1403266058;kakobrekla;ftw. 725447;1403266098;kakobrekla;gox qualitat. 725448;1403266831;los_pantalones;kakobrekla i'm submitting orders via api 725449;1403266835;los_pantalones;and they are working fine 725450;1403266843;kakobrekla;its a quote from the forums 725451;1403266849;kakobrekla;im not using that piece of shit. 725452;1403266850;los_pantalones;oh shit, i'm a jackass, sorry 725453;1403266891;kakobrekla;no worries 725454;1403266943;los_pantalones;http://washboard.co/ 725455;1403266944;assbot;Washboard 725456;1403266947;los_pantalones;signed you up for that 725457;1403266960;los_pantalones;as a mea culpa 725458;1403266965;los_pantalones;yw 725459;1403267069;kakobrekla;what is this some bitcoin mixer 725460;1403267081;los_pantalones;no, you pay $15/mo for $10 in quarters 725461;1403267085;los_pantalones;delivered to your door 725462;1403267090;los_pantalones;jenius 725463;1403267142;kakobrekla;i dun get it 725464;1403267143;BingoBoingo;It's exactly like COinbase!!! 725465;1403267175;*;kakobrekla is prolly retarded 725466;1403267200;los_pantalones;nothing to get, it's retarded 725467;1403267206;los_pantalones;twas but a poor joke 725468;1403267258;BingoBoingo;Washboard is a startup whose business is you send them money, and they return to you less money! 725469;1403267268;los_pantalones;in physical form 725470;1403267273;BingoBoingo;An Honest Startup! 725471;1403267289;los_pantalones;to be fair, the people in the photos look really happy 725472;1403267327;kakobrekla;ahh! but i just need new underpants. 725473;1403267375;pankkake;I hate dealing with small monies, I usually leave the change - I don't mind paying "more" 725474;1403267381;pankkake;well this service does the reverse 725475;1403267737;BingoBoingo;Eh, the ATF is probably going to go after them when one of their customers fills a sock with their quarters and uses the product as a weapon. 725476;1403269528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 85 @ 0.01805932 = 1.535 BTC [-] {12} 725477;1403270325;pankkake;!t h am1 725478;1403270326;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.19420000 / 0.21482589 / 0.22599900 (208 shares, 44.68378540 BTC), 7D: 0.18410000 / 0.21502034 / 0.25983989 (1039 shares, 223.40612862 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.25820242 / 0.50990000 (5201 shares, 1342.91079699 BTC) 725479;1403273023;BingoBoingo;%ticker 725480;1403273024;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 58k High: 235 Low: 200 VWAP: 200 725481;1403273676;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15771 @ 0.0008015 = 12.6405 BTC [+] {2} 725482;1403275098;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/lolomusic/lolo-hit-and-run 725483;1403275099;assbot;LOLO - Hit and Run by LOLOmusic on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 725484;1403275548;mike_c;decimation:if you total the amount of money spent on microsoft over the years, USG could have built its own secure OS and secure hardware to run it on << on the other hand, they couldn't even build a fucking website with hundreds of millions of dollars. 725485;1403276215;Mats_cd03;usfg lubed up the wheels and now healthcare.gov works p good 725486;1403276247;Mats_cd03;prob compromised already, but hey... 725487;1403276490;bitcoinpete;oh barry… https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/479997654748110848 725488;1403276491;assbot;./SecondMarket and /BitcoinTrust now accepting orders for syndicate in US Marshals bitcoin auction. Details/access: https://t.co/VFK7XiRUZH 725489;1403276888;Mats_cd03;https://soundcloud.com/dorothy-the-band/dorothy-after-midnight 725490;1403276888;assbot;DOROTHY - After Midnight by Dorothy & The Band on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 725491;1403276906;FabianB;!mpif 725492;1403276919;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021711 BTC (Total: 434.24 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 725493;1403278439;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/478774105475665920 725494;1403278440;assbot;When people call you intelligent it is because they agree with you. Otherwise they just call you arrogant. 725495;1403279218;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/480013042265391107 << coindeskin' 725496;1403279220;assbot;Mt. Gox Victims Angered by Mark Karpeles' Twitter Return http://t.co/Xly4qIdh5M 725497;1403279271;bitcoinpete;http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/JobSearch/Results.aspx?Keywords=bitcoin << bitcoin/java dev jobs 725498;1403279271;assbot;CWJobs.co.uk 725499;1403279333;bitcoinpete;£80,000 per annum wouldn't be shabby if you didn't have to live in the city 725500;1403279423;mike_c;heh, the replies to all of karpeles recent tweets are great. what did he think was going to happen? 725501;1403279920;bitcoinpete;karps was probably just feeling lonely 725502;1403279951;bitcoinpete;that's what social media is mostly for 725503;1403279964;bitcoinpete;getting feedback 725504;1403279973;davout;the best for karpy would be the french "légion étrangère" 725505;1403279986;davout;new identity, free workouts 725506;1403279997;bitcoinpete;lol 725507;1403280003;bitcoinpete;he can afford the workouts 725508;1403280030;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.74984813 BTC to 9`369 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 725509;1403280313;pankkake;I think he's a piñata, but with bitcoins inside his body 725510;1403280351;davout;pankkake: you mean he shouls be hung somewhere ? 725511;1403280356;davout;*should 725512;1403280437;pankkake;why not. 725513;1403280448;pankkake;who is this new member of the cult of mpex? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658661.msg7412826#msg7412826 725514;1403280448;assbot;Which stock securities do you recommend ? 725515;1403280546;bitcoinpete;ya, mpex has the fakiest volume around 725516;1403280548;kakobrekla;!t m s.bbet 725517;1403280548;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (281 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (2000 shares, 1.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00048574 / 0.000525 (8628 shares, 4.19 BTC) 725518;1403280559;kakobrekla;yea, real volume is over 9000 fyi 725519;1403280564;bitcoinpete;i mean, how could anyone have so many bitcoins? 725520;1403280618;mike_c;plus he got it wrong. it's MPEx, not MPex. 725521;1403280626;bitcoinpete;"^^MPex --> fake volume, site operator is dishonest and in SEC's crosshairs. Would avoid." 725522;1403280639;mike_c;btw, free money alert. mpif ask below nav. 725523;1403280643;mike_c;!mpif 725524;1403280662;assbot;BtcAlpha.com: Failed to get JD stats 725525;1403280664;bitcoinpete;it's not mircea pexchange? 725526;1403280673;mike_c;aww. i blame JD 725527;1403280696;pankkake;mike_c: well, that's jurov work 725528;1403280705;pankkake;job* 725529;1403280716;kakobrekla;!mpif 725530;1403280719;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021732 BTC (Total: 434.65 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 725531;1403280727;kakobrekla;sometimes its fast sometimes it dosent happen at all 725532;1403280730;pankkake;I never followed bitfunder, but I wonder how it ended up as such a fractional reserve 725533;1403280742;thestringpuller;NAV is going above last trade, very nice 725534;1403280747;thestringpuller;very nice indeed! 725535;1403280751;pankkake;while I don't believe btctctc faked volumes 725536;1403280876;mike_c;kakobrekla: but that error handling! kudos to us :) 725537;1403280883;kakobrekla;;) 725538;1403281229;fluffypony;pankkake: railzand is cool, I know he reads logs 725539;1403281235;fluffypony;not sure if he ever hangs around here 725540;1403281243;fluffypony;but he's pinged me with stuff from time to time 725541;1403281255;pankkake;railzand, why not in the WoT, mate? 725542;1403281376;fluffypony;lol 725543;1403281433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 260 @ 0.01992805 = 5.1813 BTC [+] {4} 725544;1403281591;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5826158/college-athletic-scholarships-for-league-of-legends-players 725545;1403281592;assbot;US college offers athletic scholarships to 'League of Legends' players | The Verge 725546;1403281620;pankkake;nice. well starcraft would be better 725547;1403281752;danielpbarron;Dota would be better still 725548;1403281983;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.0186 = 0.5952 BTC [+] {2} 725549;1403281984;pankkake;http://www.gamification.co/2012/12/04/schools-using-starcraft-2-as-education-tools/ 725550;1403281985;assbot;Schools Are Using Starcraft 2 as Serious Education Tools | Gamification Co 725551;1403282287;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.06361007 = 2.0355 BTC [-] {2} 725552;1403282488;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> you add a bunch of A records in the DNS for active nodes. i'll let you know.// ah, i assumed i needed to place some sort of text file at the domain to get picked up, but i am somewhat comfortable with DNS so I can do that too if needed 725553;1403282519;mike_c;ok. i would like for some eager dev to port bitcoin-seeder, but nobody has volunteered yet. 725554;1403282535;mike_c;so maybe we just do it manually for now. 725555;1403282539;ThickAsThieves;<+bitcoinpete> "your use of vocab is the least impressive and your facts are skewed only to meet your own objectives." /// Stop being mean to Litecoin! (I just proposed a new bet that Dark(coin) will defeat Lite(coin) :) 725556;1403282569;ThickAsThieves;<+fluffypony> I already linked to the github repo for it /// i'm not sure what that means, tell me what to do! 725557;1403282619;benkay;good morning, assettes! 725558;1403282740;mod6;%d 725559;1403282741;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 429352.57 in 441 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.98 725560;1403283027;FabianB;$depth f.mpif 725561;1403283027;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 556 @ 0.00021733 100 @ 0.00021711 100 @ 0.00021710 100 @ 0.00021708 725562;1403283028;empyex;FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 10000 @ 0.00023850 56 @ 0.00023900 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 725563;1403283131;BingoBoingo;%book 725564;1403283132;atcbot;35k@250 52k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 725565;1403283251;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/yo-the-worlds-dumbest-app-hacked-by-three-college-stu-1593737429 725566;1403283252;assbot;Yo, the World's Dumbest App, Hacked by Three College Students 725567;1403283272;ThickAsThieves;holy netsplits 725568;1403283301;moiety;hello 725569;1403283492;kakobrekla;so tell me people, i need to make some api with signcryption model. should i go with sodium (ed25519), or just use pgp or something else? Curve25519 wont do (no signatures). 725570;1403283525;mike_c;just roll your own. new standard. 725571;1403283534;davout;kakobrekla: sodium sounds quite new 725572;1403283546;kakobrekla;does it? 725573;1403283558;davout;march 2013 725574;1403283582;pankkake;do you have size constraints? 725575;1403283596;davout;the hot chicks do 725576;1403283640;kakobrekla;with the message size? not really but shorter is generally better (but not for sake of security) 725577;1403283668;mike_c;ugh. shame on your family. 725578;1403283670;mike_c;http://www.bitcoin-otc.com/abcd 725579;1403283671;assbot;www.bitcoin-otc.com | 404 - Page Cannot Be Found 725580;1403283672;pankkake;gpg can do ecdsa, though it's not accessible by default 725581;1403283699;davout;pankkake: that's gpg2 only iirc 725582;1403283733;pankkake;using gpg gives you the option of multiple schemes 725583;1403283744;pankkake;people still use gpg1? 725584;1403283747;ThickAsThieves;<+punkman> last 3 Yes bets on bastille bet are losers ///i look forward to those bettors finding their way here to complain 725585;1403283879;pankkake;http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/openpgp/current/msg07187.html 725586;1403283881;assbot;Re: [openpgp] Curve3617 in OpenPGP? Beyond rfc6637. 725587;1403283882;davout;kakobrekla: one advantage i'd see with gpg is that it would be easier for humans to use it manually 725588;1403283908;kakobrekla;its not meant for manual 725589;1403283911;kakobrekla;if its api 725590;1403283948;davout;well, it doesn't hurt that it's easily testable by humans, just sayin 725591;1403283957;punkman;ThickAsThieves: related: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723553 725592;1403283958;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 725593;1403283981;kakobrekla;yes but 99.99% of the time its used by machines, so lets optimize for that. 725594;1403283988;davout;pankkake: i have 1.4.13, doesn't seem to have any ECC enabled 725595;1403284010;pankkake;with gpg2 you have to enable expert mode 725596;1403284041;*;kakobrekla googles 725597;1403284136;davout;kakobrekla: "yes but 99.99% of the time its used by machines, so lets optimize for that." <<< if you follow this logic, all APIs would be better off using some binary protocol instead of JSON :D 725598;1403284156;kakobrekla;i will do base64 encode of the json, motherfucker. 725599;1403284171;davout;your face is base64 encoded 725600;1403284177;kakobrekla;only in the morning. 725601;1403284228;davout;for storage ? 725602;1403284235;BingoBoingo;Just use RSA and base 69 it 725603;1403284266;FabianB;why not bson? 725604;1403284272;BingoBoingo;1MB keylength, because storage is cheap 725605;1403284280;kakobrekla;why not a lion or a hippo then! 725606;1403284484;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02069181 = 0.6208 BTC [+] {3} 725607;1403284679;FabianB;or Smile 725608;1403284693;benkay;Diablo-D3: i'm eating biscuits and gravy and it's the best thing ever 725609;1403284695;BingoBoingo;Why not. Seed the PRNG with randomized hippo matter. 725610;1403284727;BingoBoingo;benkay: I'm just chewing on some raw wheat like god intended. 725611;1403284769;davout;"i'm just eating an apple like god intended" 725612;1403284802;benkay;!up Diablo-D3 725613;1403284833;benkay;i'm interacting with the system gpg binary like god intended 725614;1403284893;pankkake;apples are ok, unlike the horrible things mentionned 725615;1403284896;ThickAsThieves;"Update your client, HARD FORK! Friday we will begin paying MasterNodes - Latest Client Stable: 9.10.1 and RC3 with Darksend is 10.10.1 - See downloads!" ~ Darkcoin developer 725616;1403284914;ThickAsThieves;conveniently occurring just as the price topped 725617;1403284932;pankkake;is this the closed source altcoin that just repackages CoinJoin? 725618;1403284944;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves please let's refer to it by its proper name: Darkcon. 725619;1403284959;fluffypony;I'll be over here in the Monero corner giggling evilly 725620;1403284977;ThickAsThieves;all i know is day trading it has been much profitable 725621;1403284995;ThickAsThieves;monero is rocketing too 725622;1403285001;ThickAsThieves;how do you even buy it? 725623;1403285002;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Isn't monero the same bullshit since it isn't Altcoin, the only worthwhile altcoin 725624;1403285064;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: it's not forked from Bitcoin, so that already makes for a change 725625;1403285069;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: Poloniex has the most volume 725626;1403285077;fluffypony;but when XMR is rocketing then often Bittrex is slow to catch up 725627;1403285086;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: Forked from BBQcoin? 725628;1403285097;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: doesn't even use the Bitcoin protocol 725629;1403285102;fluffypony;no GUI, CLI only 725630;1403285114;fluffypony;based on this: https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf 725631;1403285120;fluffypony;and the reference implementation thereof 725632;1403285182;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: So you descriminate against most derps then, reddit will nevar let you hear the end of it. 725633;1403285192;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: exactly 725634;1403285222;pankkake;also wallet and node are separate processes 725635;1403285246;fluffypony;yes 725636;1403285262;pankkake;you can run multiple wallets on the same node etc. 725637;1403285278;fluffypony;and atm we're working on properly daemonising bitmonerod, because it only runs in interactive mode 725638;1403285294;fluffypony;and splitting simplewallet into rpcwallet (daemonised) and simplewallet (interactive CLI) 725639;1403285337;fluffypony;oh and it has a 24-word deterministic seed (based on Electrum's wordlist) 725640;1403285356;fluffypony;so that will make usagi-level fuck ups less likely 725641;1403285378;benkay;this one cpu one vote thing is pretty bs 725642;1403285393;fluffypony;benkay: ignore that part - the PoW is up for discussion anyway 725643;1403285393;fluffypony;but 725644;1403285405;fluffypony;it has DEFINITELY lowered the gap between CPU and GPU miners 725645;1403285409;kakobrekla;IGNORE THE PARTS THAT DONT WORK 725646;1403285413;kakobrekla;my new mantra. 725647;1403285417;fluffypony;kakobrekla: of the whitepaper... 725648;1403285444;kakobrekla;well im keepin it nao 725649;1403285445;pankkake;but as always, the useful/working things could just be ported to Bitcoin 725650;1403285464;fluffypony;pankkake: ring signatures would be INCREDIBLY kludgy in Bitcoin 725651;1403285485;pankkake;why? 725652;1403285486;benkay;anonymity is also a red herring 725653;1403285499;fluffypony;gmaxwell has a test implementation of it, but judging by his comments in #monero-dev he doesn't like its fit with BTC much 725654;1403285511;fluffypony;benkay: in what sense? 725655;1403285541;fluffypony;try a transaction, look at it on the blockchain explorer, and then see what useful info you can derive at a mixin of 0 725656;1403285637;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for Yes on "Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/921/ Odds: 72(Y):28(N) by coin, 56(Y):44(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.655 BTC. Current weight: 36,106. 725657;1403285648;benkay;wow integer btc hitting the wc bets 725658;1403285671;benkay;fluffypony: it's not a use case for the vast majority of users, and for those who actually care solutions already exist. 725659;1403285782;fluffypony;that's only true *right now* 725660;1403285841;benkay;lol what are the solutions going to disappear? 725661;1403285905;fluffypony;what are the solutions? coinjoin? mixers? stealth addresses? hoping that the recipient never leaks the tx id? 725662;1403286051;benkay;buying coins offline. 725663;1403286055;benkay;sending them to fresh addresses. 725664;1403286083;benkay;broadcasting txns like a boss 725665;1403286093;benkay;(that is to say quietly). 725666;1403286095;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2HPF4FW.txt ) 725667;1403286095;BingoBoingo;!b 5 725668;1403286129;benkay;i tell you man, red herring. 725669;1403286139;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/20/not-going-to-happen/ 725670;1403286146;fluffypony;and then when you buy your illegal drugs or your very legal banned-thing-in-the-country-in-which-you-live you send it TO someone from those fresh addresses, and they can figure out who you bought it from 725671;1403286177;fluffypony;I would hazard that buying offline is even more dangerous than OTC on IRC 725672;1403286196;BingoBoingo;What, you don't use BitBet mixing? 725673;1403286214;benkay;who can figure out who i bought what from now? 725674;1403286235;fluffypony;benkay: when you are "buying coins offline" you're buying them FROM someone, no? 725675;1403286244;benkay;de veras 725676;1403286246;fluffypony;some fucktard from localbitcoins or mycelium or whatever 725677;1403286253;benkay;otc counts as offline imho 725678;1403286257;fluffypony;either way 725679;1403286260;fluffypony;that exposes you 725680;1403286277;benkay;how again? 725681;1403286299;benkay;and to whom? 725682;1403286315;fluffypony;gubmint suspects you are dealing in illicit books, so they setup a sting to sell you BTC - they are now able to watch you spend those coins on said illegal books 725683;1403286321;fluffypony;because they are the ones selling to you 725684;1403286327;benkay;dafuq 725685;1403286348;benkay;so...assume they've suborned one of my regular coin sources? 725686;1403286360;benkay;you have this whole story concocted that you're not sharing, man. 725687;1403286397;fluffypony;no story - I'm arguing that a use case will exist for untraceability (or optional traceability, if you will) in future 725688;1403286433;benkay;and i'm telling you i can buy coins untraceably right now. 725689;1403286447;benkay;unless my source is suborned. 725690;1403286456;benkay;in which case, even monero's SOL. 725691;1403286483;fluffypony;not entirely 725692;1403286505;fluffypony;the Monero blockchain won't reveal your balance, when you spend, how much you spend, or on what 725693;1403286547;benkay;and all the btc blockchain shows is that some random addr got some coins at some point 725694;1403286567;benkay;and then that those coins went to a known drug dealer at another point 725695;1403286579;benkay;if the shipment gets intercepted on the way back to me, monero's not going to save my ass 725696;1403286589;benkay;you're not actually doing the attack surface analysis man 725697;1403286620;fluffypony;drugs are not the only use case 725698;1403286631;benkay;thing-im-not-supposed-to-have-#42 725699;1403286655;fluffypony;but you've just explained the problem in your example 725700;1403286669;fluffypony;if you're being targeted by "them" then they know "some random adde" 725701;1403286672;fluffypony;addr 725702;1403286678;benkay;how? 725703;1403286686;fluffypony;aforementioned sting operation 725704;1403286694;benkay;suborned my dealer, you're saying. 725705;1403286698;fluffypony;yes 725706;1403286706;benkay;the coin salesman 725707;1403286709;fluffypony;and then you said that Monero was SOL 725708;1403286715;fluffypony;and I said it wasn't and explained why 725709;1403286721;fluffypony;and then you launched forth into a circuitous argument 725710;1403286730;benkay;so the dealer can't say i sent coins to that address with monero? 725711;1403286734;pankkake;also the idea here is that by default everything you do is hard to track 725712;1403286736;fluffypony;he can say all he want 725713;1403286743;fluffypony;he can't demonstrate you did 725714;1403286748;fluffypony;the blockchain won't reveal you did 725715;1403286759;benkay;that i did what now? sent coins to my drug dealer? 725716;1403286764;fluffypony;yes 725717;1403286771;benkay;k - but what about the package interception? 725718;1403286786;benkay;the posession of illicit goods is what enforcement cares about, right? 725719;1403286807;fluffypony;depends - if you're talking about drugs, sure 725720;1403286813;fluffypony;stolen goods? they just care that you bought it 725721;1403286823;fluffypony;what about digital goods? 725722;1403286844;benkay;digital goods being stolen coins? 725723;1403286863;fluffypony;no - I mean if you're buying digital goods 725724;1403286871;fluffypony;iTunes vouchers, for instance :-P 725725;1403286901;benkay;but illegal iTunes that i'm not supposed to have? 725726;1403286922;fluffypony;yes 725727;1403286950;fluffypony;so assuming that the delivery of the goods is not compromised 725728;1403286960;benkay;okay so the story is that i get busted for buying badTunes credits because i sent coins to the badTunes address? 725729;1403286973;asciilifeform;they... suborn your cook. who poisons you. blockchain - didn't help! cry? 725730;1403286986;benkay;yeah srs asciilifeform 725731;1403287031;fluffypony;well we'll see, I think time will tell whether untraceability is a desirous thing 725732;1403287063;benkay;i'm telling you that it's adequately doable right now that the sidechannels are the real risk, and that no amount of blockchainery is going to ameliorate your sidechannel risks. 725733;1403287081;benkay;can someone who's not a retarded american tell me if i'm off my fucking rocker? 725734;1403287092;benkay;retarded american child 725735;1403287135;benkay;(i'm not calling you names, fluffypony - that's me ridiculing myself) 725736;1403287146;fluffypony;I know you weren't, I'd have been surprised if you thought I was American :-P 725737;1403287166;benkay;i'm a wee bit more observant than that. but you know, ambiguity and IRC. 725738;1403287199;fluffypony;"YOU DIDN'T PUT A SMILEY ON IT, YOU MUST BE SAYING SOMETHING MEAN" 725739;1403287210;benkay;ugh internet people 725740;1403287213;benkay;anyways 725741;1403287227;danielpbarron;how can law enforcement be sure it's you who spent the coins if you simply send them to an intermediate address first 725742;1403287235;benkay;(biscuit coma) 725743;1403287254;fluffypony;danielpbarron: taint analysis - it's the reason that coinjoin and mixing isn't considered safe 725744;1403287273;benkay;danielpbarron: or for that matter if the addr in question's never been seen on the network, and you're not idiotic enough to associate it with any IP that could be associated with you. 725745;1403287287;benkay;ugh taint 725746;1403287290;benkay;*ragequit* 725747;1403287292;danielpbarron;there is no taint in Bitcoin 725748;1403287298;fluffypony;http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01 725749;1403287301;assbot;Bitcoin Coinjoin Not Anonymous v01 725750;1403287301;fluffypony;that would be a start 725751;1403287338;danielpbarron;if i send funds to an address, you cannot be sure its my address; maybe i gave them away to a random address 725752;1403287389;*;fluffypony shrugs 725753;1403287395;fluffypony;nobody's forcing anyone to find Monero interesting 725754;1403287421;fluffypony;if you like maths and cryptography you may find our ongoing peer review of the CryptoNote whitepaper interesting 725755;1403287427;fluffypony;http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_annotated.pdf 725756;1403287432;danielpbarron;if you pay your drug dealer from your coinbase wallet, that can be traced 725757;1403287464;fluffypony;I've gotta bounce, at a friend's house and we're going to go eat and drink 725758;1403287518;danielpbarron;and i suppose if you send from a machine that is associated with you, that could be traced 725759;1403287543;danielpbarron;but i don't see how the blockchain reveals any info that definitively associates the funds with you 725760;1403287960;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00080393 = 7.3158 BTC [+] {2} 725761;1403288480;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/knc-neptune-delivered-hashing/ 725762;1403289069;kakobrekla;;;bc,diff 725763;1403289070;gribble;Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command. 725764;1403289088;kakobrekla;i forgot. 725765;1403289094;mike_c;;;bc,stats 725766;1403289097;gribble;Current Blocks: 306867 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1580 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15544170485.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.46205 725767;1403289105;kakobrekla;its been so long since i used that cmd. 725768;1403289137;mike_c;BingoBoingo: cancel the celebration party. 725769;1403289983;mircea_popescu;ola! 725770;1403290986;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: much shame upon family << srs. 725771;1403291147;moiety;hello :] how are you mircea_popescu? 725772;1403291188;mircea_popescu;pretty great. 725773;1403291440;mircea_popescu;how about you ? 725774;1403291558;moiety;very well, been snowed under but getting through everything :] 725775;1403291664;mircea_popescu;ah, snow... i remember this snow thing 725776;1403291680;asciilifeform;the circus performs: http://blog.cari.net/carisirt-yet-another-bmc-vulnerability-and-some-added-extras 725777;1403291684;assbot;CARISIRT: Yet Another BMC Vulnerability (And some added extras) | CARI.net Blog 725778;1403291723;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: (intel never once in its entire life published anything but a mockery of 'open source.' see their 'open' bios, for example.) << sadly. which is why everyone's on amd, really. 725779;1403291732;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform lol 725780;1403291741;asciilifeform;everyone's on amd << thought it was just me. 725781;1403291742;asciilifeform;lol 725782;1403291769;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i've not bought anything intel the past 20ish years. 725783;1403291796;mircea_popescu;roughly since the disatrous p1 math accelerator. 725784;1403291826;*;asciilifeform even now running amd hardware ('tyan' circa 2007) largely because amd mobos with ecc support and multiple pcie-16 slots have vanished into some mysterious black hole. 725785;1403291839;moiety;i'm still running intel celery because my laptop broke so back to an old one. it's dire! 725786;1403291891;ThickAsThieves;the redskins are very lucky actually 725787;1403291923;ThickAsThieves;the gov gave them an easy revival, rename, rebrand, cool new name and jerseys and fans 725788;1403291939;ThickAsThieves;other than the expense of the change, i bet it works out well 725789;1403291978;*;asciilifeform utterly bewildered that 'serious' people are willing to use non-ecc ram. 725790;1403291985;ThickAsThieves;The Chicago Blackhawks declined to comment about the Washington Redskins' loss of trademark protection Wednesday 725791;1403291991;ThickAsThieves;hehe 725792;1403292003;mircea_popescu;they;re somehow in danger too ?! 725793;1403292014;ThickAsThieves;of course 725794;1403292018;mircea_popescu;why ? 725795;1403292024;ThickAsThieves;soon we wont be allowed to say indian 725796;1403292035;ThickAsThieves;oh wait 725797;1403292041;mircea_popescu;but blackhawk ? nada a ver ? 725798;1403292078;ThickAsThieves;;;google chicago blackhawks logo 725799;1403292079;gribble;Chicago Blackhawks: The Official Web Site: ; Desktop Wallpaper - Chicago Blackhawks - Fan Zone: ; Chicago Blackhawks Logos - National Hockey League (NHL) - Chris ...: 725800;1403292080;ThickAsThieves;there ya go 725801;1403292095;ThickAsThieves;just a happy lil injun 725802;1403292109;mircea_popescu;heh. 725803;1403292121;mircea_popescu;so after having their land stolen and later their population exterminated, 725804;1403292130;mircea_popescu;indians are now going to be erased from written record and culture too 725805;1403292136;mircea_popescu;under the guise of "protection 725806;1403292150;los_pantalones;ah, excellent point 725807;1403292177;ThickAsThieves;all to spare the ego of Uncle Sam 725808;1403292186;mircea_popescu;peculiarly extensive implementation of damnatio memoriae srsly. 725809;1403292189;asciilifeform;;;google jahiliyyah 725810;1403292189;gribble;Jahiliyyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Jahiliyyah - Oxford Islamic Studies Online: ; Use of the Word “Jahiliyyah” (Period of Ignorance) - islamqa.info: 725811;1403292209;ThickAsThieves;they just renamed a school in Jacksonville 725812;1403292220;ThickAsThieves;cuz named after KKK wizard or such 725813;1403292235;ThickAsThieves;was a huge fight 725814;1403292242;ThickAsThieves;but a local rapper won eventually 725815;1403292247;Blazedout419;Sad how overly sensitive the USA is these days 725816;1403292327;ThickAsThieves;interestingly, in a WoT/BTC/Mircean world, all bad things are permanent record 725817;1403292341;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: so gotta keep x86/winblows relevant somehow << can't imagine how that'd work. by now the stack is quite ample : x86 running windows to connect the owners of bitcents to reddit. 725818;1403292355;mircea_popescu;it's like... might as well consider the problems of the amiga universe. 725819;1403292373;ThickAsThieves;amiga is a good name for a universe 725820;1403292381;mircea_popescu;a defunct one. 725821;1403292405;asciilifeform;think how it would've went, if jack tramiel had bought himself a congresscritter or two 725822;1403292417;mircea_popescu;or if he just killed antonoderpulous. 725823;1403292444;asciilifeform;where was the latter in, say, '85 ? 725824;1403292452;*;asciilifeform confused 725825;1403292469;ThickAsThieves;so i've been getting lost in the world of day traders lately, found some google hangouts where people do screen shares and voice chat about charts, etc 725826;1403292475;mircea_popescu;idiots are perennial. 725827;1403292493;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves how's voice chat work ? 725828;1403292499;ThickAsThieves;i mentioned irc at one point, and someone asked, why dont you guys just use voice chat? 725829;1403292526;ThickAsThieves;which sparked my interest, maybe we should have an open line 725830;1403292530;asciilifeform;idiots still have bitcents remaining? thought they've been vacuumed up by now 725831;1403292543;ThickAsThieves;they use Google Hangouts 725832;1403292547;ThickAsThieves;which works fine 725833;1403292553;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves because irc is non blocking. 725834;1403292554;ThickAsThieves;but you could do voice on Ventrilo or such 725835;1403292558;mircea_popescu;i can rant while you talk. 725836;1403292565;mircea_popescu;if we voice chatted it'd be like the bdsm brunch. 725837;1403292572;ThickAsThieves;just a thought 725838;1403292593;mircea_popescu;iirc someone made trilema rift guild a ventrilo 725839;1403292597;mircea_popescu;so it's already existent 725840;1403292601;mircea_popescu;dunno if it gets much use 725841;1403292607;mircea_popescu;no wait was a mumble 725842;1403292609;ThickAsThieves;it would by the raiders 725843;1403292621;asciilifeform;we should have an open line << what's it cost / who one needs to kill / etc. to get a shortwave channel? 725844;1403292640;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform to argentina, australia and everywherew ? 725845;1403292654;asciilifeform;2 or 3 repeaters, sure. 725846;1403292673;asciilifeform;when solar flare, people will take break, get some wurk done. 725847;1403292700;ThickAsThieves;google hangouts are recorded in 8 hour sessions too, and able to be live broadcasted on youtube, so we've had some dialogues and such as 'entertainment' 725848;1403292710;ThickAsThieves;anyway that's what ive been up to 725849;1403292718;mircea_popescu;by the way, re the intel thing and atari : in 1983, game consoles sold like 3bn dollars' worth (in 1983 dollars, like ten trillion today). by 1985, it was 100 mn (9x% drop) 725850;1403292723;mircea_popescu;these things DO happen 725851;1403292731;asciilifeform;the infamous desert burial 725852;1403292734;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves so link one ? 725853;1403292755;ThickAsThieves;i'll have to get it from one of them next time 725854;1403292759;asciilifeform;(some fool dug up the site not long ago) 725855;1403292908;mircea_popescu;decimation: "you want to get paid? well, you better write your TPS reports in MS so we can give you tax dollars" << "yeah but how about you don't have tax dollars to give in the first place" 725856;1403292926;mircea_popescu;the displacement of which bitcoin is keystone is really pretty large. 725857;1403292996;benkay;i can't wait until my taxable dollar amount is negligible 725858;1403293191;mircea_popescu;quick boobs 725859;1403293362;mircea_popescu;moiety: https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikileak/2011/09/why-didnt-julian-assange-use-pgp-properly-when-handing-over-cablescsv-file-to-da.html << re this ? the first website on the whole internets to actually publish cables ? my blog. 725860;1403293363;assbot;Why didn't Julian Assange use PGP properly when handing over the US State Department cables.csv file to David Leigh ?? - WikiLeak 725861;1403293372;mircea_popescu;later that day wikileaks gave up and actually dumped it too. 725862;1403293511;benkay;boobs? 725863;1403293524;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: 725864;1403293524;mircea_popescu;'More interestingly, many Americans no longer even understand the concepts of loyalty and treason?again, not surprising, since for a few generations now they have been ruled by traitors, whose routine acts of betrayal are designed to benefit just about anyone?from Israeli arms smugglers to Afghani heroin dealers?except the people who supposedly elect them to office.' << that's not the why. 725865;1403293572;mircea_popescu;the why is that for an entire generation now they've been trained to falsely believe that hierarchy is arbitrary and evil, that submission is against human nature and forcing the inferior to submit inhuman etc scl. 725866;1403293591;mircea_popescu;that system of crud makes loyalty logically impossible. 725867;1403293663;benkay;someone talked us into trading leadership for democracy, with predictable results. 725868;1403293684;benkay;i spent my early twenties looking for a man worth my loyalty and then gave up. 725869;1403293706;mircea_popescu;remarkable how much orlov gets wrong given how much he notices. 725870;1403293707;benkay;well, worth loyalty and capable of leading. 725871;1403293721;mircea_popescu;benkay and willing to, is the bitch. 725872;1403293795;moiety;interesting 725873;1403293904;mircea_popescu;http://www.andrewcusack.com/net/wp-content/uploads/saynw4.jpg this is actually not bad 725874;1403293909;benkay;yup. 725875;1403293974;benkay;not that i found any worth my time to begin with, so i don't even have a sample of potential masters to compare to each other. 725876;1403293994;benkay;this conversation just got mad gay. 725877;1403294033;mircea_popescu;well since we're doing mad, lemme tell you a story. 725878;1403294090;mircea_popescu;i take girl to local bdsm brunch yesterday. bout fiddy local people, all very nice and friendly, some bar somewhere that you'd think you've died and it's greenwich village in 1980 all over again 725879;1403294139;mircea_popescu;there's this chick that looks just about 12 (and later confirmed her weight as 43 - !!! - kgs) that takes a liking to my girl, they chat, i buy them wine, 725880;1403294163;mircea_popescu;tells us all about how she's tried being a 2nd subbie in a relationship and it was ok but they ended it amiably and she's not looking for anything 725881;1403294190;mircea_popescu;meanwhile unattached in-their-own-oppinion dom guys tell me all about how alpha really they are, and then we leave. 725882;1403294222;mircea_popescu;with the kitten. who, mind you, gets up in a cab and drives away with two guys who are clearly foreigners, barely speak the language, and she's just met two hours prior in a bar at a bdsm munch. 725883;1403294268;mircea_popescu;past desperate attempts at cockblocking by the entire collected "alpha" population. apparently my chick's unstoppable and really fucking scary to boys. 725884;1403294279;mircea_popescu;so : there's seeking and then there's seeking. 725885;1403294429;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 132.20522660 BTC to 77`492 shares, 170605 satoshi per share 725886;1403294458;benkay;i also had nothing to bring to the table for those years. arguably still don't. 725887;1403294472;mircea_popescu;neither did she. i have more tit. 725888;1403294492;mircea_popescu;i mean, *I* have more tit. 725889;1403294531;benkay;but you're out shopping. 725890;1403294548;mircea_popescu;in spite of which she did everything all night long, i took her to breakfast and then dropped her off in the arms of her mothar. 725891;1403294556;mircea_popescu;i guess sort-of yeah, that's a point. 725892;1403294616;benkay;ha so my time for story 725893;1403294629;mircea_popescu;the gay just won't wash away :D 725894;1403294637;benkay;gotta pray it away 725895;1403294653;mircea_popescu;anyway, yes, please, by all means, even the story cunt a bit 725896;1403294661;mircea_popescu;im sick of reading nothing but my own stories in the logs 725897;1403294733;benkay;so last night i'm at the user group thing, making friends, introducing people to each other, the usual shit necessary to keep a user group's momentum up, and not one, not two but three people on whose skills and capabilities i've been sold for a while come up to me gently asking about opportunities to contract 725898;1403294748;mircea_popescu;cazalla: BingoBoingo: didn't you know that the biggest Australian export after resources are bitcoin scams? (inputs.io, hair dresser ipos, kenilworth and on it goes) << i've often thought of this. add patrick harnett and a whole other bunch of new zealand folk 725899;1403294769;mircea_popescu;benkay so you're like made. 725900;1403294824;benkay;separately, a local company'd killed off their division of programmers who work in this particular stack due to the 'difficulty' of finding them. several of these devs left their employers due to the boss' unwillingness to put steel behind the right technical decisions with clients. 725901;1403294875;benkay;and i'm sitting over here not exactly swimming in work but definitely a bit busy helping people who trust me to run the technical side of their businesses, and definitely overwhelmed by the talent seeking work with me. 725902;1403294883;mircea_popescu;so at this juncture you send the boss's boss a link to this log 725903;1403294888;mircea_popescu;seemingly you're the new boss. 725904;1403294933;benkay;wat 725905;1403294947;benkay;just 'cause their boys want to hack with me doesn't mean i get to tell their old firm what to do. 725906;1403294953;mircea_popescu;says who ? 725907;1403294976;benkay;well back up a sec - just what does that get me? 725908;1403294991;benkay;"neener neener i got yer best"? 725909;1403295001;benkay;where's the ROI? 725910;1403295011;asciilifeform;programmers << i thought benkay ran a machine shop ? 725911;1403295014;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Heretic coin seems dead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459028.msg6551501#msg6551501 <<< these people are so retarded it bleeds right off the page. on one hand derps wonder why nobody mines/cares about the coin, and hnt at conspiraci. on the other, guy trying to slel 3mn coins, no news in a month. GEE FUCK I WONDER WHY IT IS NOBODY MINES IT 725912;1403295014;assbot;[ANN][ALT][Altcoin][scrypt Adaptive N-factor][Random][Fair Launch][No ASIC] 725913;1403295025;mircea_popescu;benkay gotta give the boss' boss the opportunity to make his own mistake. 725914;1403295049;mircea_popescu;sane boss approached with this, if it can be documented, cans the underboss that same day. 725915;1403295056;mircea_popescu;and with extreme prejudice at that. 725916;1403295081;benkay;asciilifeform: i had no intention of giving that impression. i'd love to own a machine shop but I need a pile more capital to make that happen. ergo...software. 725917;1403295082;mircea_popescu;"you dumb fuck, i have to hear from random passerby';s how utterly you suck at your job ? go fuck a goad in the market, you're never working in this line again" 725918;1403295096;ThickAsThieves;Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins? 725919;1403295113;ThickAsThieves;they seem to be Casascius kinda thing 725920;1403295119;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i never saw proof they scammed anyone, if that helps. 725921;1403295136;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell nubbins [16:11] <+ThickAsThieves> Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins? 725922;1403295137;gribble;Error: "16:11" is not a valid command. 725923;1403295143;benkay;it's not that bad a move from their perspective, mircea_popescu. if they want to chase milli+ contracts that run only on .NET and POJ, that's a legit business move. 725924;1403295143;ThickAsThieves;oh ya 725925;1403295168;mircea_popescu;benkay a, i guess you leftthat part out. 725926;1403295193;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell nubbins` [16:11] <+ThickAsThieves> Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins? 725927;1403295194;gribble;Error: "16:11" is not a valid command. 725928;1403295195;mircea_popescu;so then, maybe you're running the local bitter loser group, and the fleet sailed long ago. who's to know. 725929;1403295197;benkay;hey you think i leave details out of stories you should have seen fluffypony earlier 725930;1403295205;ThickAsThieves;;;later tell nubbins` Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins? 725931;1403295206;gribble;The operation succeeded. 725932;1403295225;benkay;mircea_popescu: i thought lispers were all bitter losers to begin with 725933;1403295232;mircea_popescu;muy true 725934;1403295249;benkay;but also i'm running a different, longer play. 725935;1403295255;mircea_popescu;arguably not as losers but bitterer than the other type o coders, but anyway 725936;1403295273;benkay;dat bedrock 725937;1403295317;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic: having a WoT account doesn't mean everything you write is signed << why not ? inasmuch as only you could have written it... 725938;1403295385;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: just phoned them - they'll increase my free limit to 30kgs << fuck them, assholes. seems all short distance is covered by this sort of low service "low cost" bs. 725939;1403295461;asciilifeform;provokes the question, what do the 'high end' folks do? fly own machine? 725940;1403295478;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform more often than you'd think. prices have really come down 725941;1403295502;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i live next to a field full of these things. the fellow i used to rent from owned one. about 40k usd. 725942;1403295512;FabianB;$traded 725943;1403295513;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.MPOE 725944;1403295513;mircea_popescu;right ? sorta like a van 725945;1403295515;asciilifeform;~what a nice car costs. but, the bureaucracy! 725946;1403295531;mircea_popescu;well, for one if you fly high enough you don't actually have to report 725947;1403295531;asciilifeform;wanna start the motor? fill out these here forms... 725948;1403295536;mircea_popescu;there' sa list of stuff 725949;1403295582;asciilifeform;related: 725950;1403295588;asciilifeform;;;google joseph stack manifesto 725951;1403295588;gribble;Insane Manifesto Of Austin Texas Crash Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack: ; here's the Manifesto of Joseph Stack -- "Mr. Big Brother IRS Man ...: ; Plane Crash Suspect's Diatribe | The Smoking Gun: (1 more message) 725952;1403295650;asciilifeform;(summary: fellow worked a bunch of ancient software consulting gigs. owed $maxint in tax somehow. told that his little airplane would be sold to pay the debt. went spectacularly postal.) 725953;1403295693;mircea_popescu;i remember this, was years ago 725954;1403295699;asciilifeform;aye 725955;1403295701;mircea_popescu;or rehash ? 725956;1403295703;mircea_popescu;aok 725957;1403295724;mthreat;i saw that building after he hit it. It was the IRS building, and he targeted it on purpose 725958;1403295727;asciilifeform;no, just example of somebody who actually relied on a micro airplane for a living 725959;1403295754;asciilifeform;which was interesting, because 'tools of crafsman' are normally exempted from auction by creditors 725960;1403295778;asciilifeform;but (can't recall) either tax authorities are not limited in this way, or they ruled that the machine was not really 'tool of trade' 725961;1403295801;mircea_popescu;My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early 80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having tax code readings and discussions. 725962;1403295811;mircea_popescu;srsly, the notion that there exists such a thing as "plain language"... 725963;1403295840;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: I'd love to have a voice channel, but I think it would work better if we scheduled it - like a session every two weeks or something? 725964;1403295845;mike_c;i think it's somewhat valid. plain = not a lot of jargon. 725965;1403295845;mircea_popescu;basically the problem of intelligent people is that the knowledge needed is so vast... i could readily render the pretense and nonsense of it, but i don't have the time/patience to hang out in every nook and cranny. 725966;1403295877;mircea_popescu;mike_c "plain language" is the conceptual equivalent of "measurement in se". how long is your desk ? 725967;1403295941;mike_c;it's about yea big 725968;1403295958;mircea_popescu;so can i use the even-ness of the 129th digit in your measurement reliably ? 725969;1403295980;mircea_popescu;there's nothing plain about language just like a measurement isn't the thing measured. 725970;1403295989;asciilifeform;'I have never seen unintelligent or children of average intelligence muster the intellectual power that causes them to believe their own mind to be better and more trustworthy than reality, although the enjoyment of every kind of magic and fairytales and mystic and wizardry is a sign that many _wish_ their minds were better than reality at a certain age. I have concluded that it is a phenomenal curse when it i 725971;1403295989;asciilifeform;s and children experience that they can guess faster than they can learn. This latter thing is what I mostly associate with stupidity, however, and why I do _not_ equate intelligence with absence of stupidity. Quite the contrary, the more intelligent, the more potential to be stupid in just this crucial way, to believe that what you can pick out of your own mind at zero cost is better than what must be dug up fr 725972;1403295989;asciilifeform;om reality at great effort.' 725973;1403295997;asciilifeform;guess who 725974;1403296002;mircea_popescu;naggum ? 725975;1403296005;asciilifeform;(naggum, of course. http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185426046243327@naggum.net.html) 725976;1403296006;assbot;404 Not Found 725977;1403296025;asciilifeform;stuff it arsebot, it's found. 725978;1403296040;mircea_popescu;mike_c and the "not a lot of jargon" thing is roughly like the vietnam forest without a lot of vietcong in it. 725979;1403296043;mircea_popescu;i'd be worried. 725980;1403296076;mircea_popescu;!up st4rbux 725981;1403296082;mike_c;for sure, you can't speak about things intelligently with plain language. i can't tell you what's wrong with your computer in plain language. 725982;1403296109;mike_c;so i guess it's a euphimism for dumb language. 725983;1403296110;mircea_popescu;moreover, and more dangerously : a term of art that has a common speech homophone will only notify those in the know of its status 725984;1403296117;mircea_popescu;it's not going to (nor can it) notify the innocent. 725985;1403296164;asciilifeform;try explaining how to... tie a bowline sea knot - in 'plain language.' 725986;1403296192;mike_c;you can't. nor can you specify the tax code in plain language. 725987;1403296192;mircea_popescu;i use the plainest language of anyone i'm aware of, and yet people claim you need a degree to argue with me. wtf is that all about. 725988;1403296201;mircea_popescu;DO YOU LIEK SPEAK PLAIN ENGLISH ??! 725989;1403296216;asciilifeform;the most elegant example of the agony of 'plain language' is: attempts at computer programming systems which purported to use such. 725990;1403296225;mircea_popescu;good example yea 725991;1403296238;mike_c;it's a starting point, not an endpoint. 725992;1403296243;asciilifeform;consider: 725993;1403296244;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/hypercard-calc/hc23.jpg 725994;1403296257;mircea_popescu;my z80 keyboard had plain language on it : load, merge, save etc 725995;1403296296;asciilifeform;^ even with manual, this 2-line script was a pain to write. logically equivalent phrases, all sum to nothing 725996;1403296297;mircea_popescu;it's great for humour this. "does your desk make your back hurt ? press backspace!" 725997;1403296312;asciilifeform;'please press any key' - 'where is the any key' 725998;1403296336;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i hought you loved hypercard ? 725999;1403296343;asciilifeform;not the script lang 726000;1403296348;mircea_popescu;a a ya 726001;1403296352;mircea_popescu;nm 726002;1403296358;asciilifeform;it was made to torture sinners in an apple-themed hell 726003;1403296381;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06380004 = 1.1484 BTC [-] {3} 726004;1403296419;asciilifeform;somehow, 'hypertalk' was well-liked by serious users. why? theory: it lured a bunch of folks who were 'on the right side of the camel's hump' to begin with - into learning elementary programming 726005;1403296450;asciilifeform;e.g. lawyers, accountants, builders - people who wouldn't have had any dealings with programming otherwise, and - by many accounts - haven't since. 726006;1403296487;mircea_popescu;In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each 726007;1403296487;mircea_popescu;other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be healthier eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldnt quite go there, but the impression was made. 726008;1403296506;mircea_popescu;for the record, had occasion to punish girly to cat food only diet for a week or so. 726009;1403296513;mircea_popescu;she hated that more than anything in memory. 726010;1403296563;*;asciilifeform recalls many stories of soviet emigres dining on delicious cat food upon arrival 726011;1403296620;asciilifeform;(it is not necessarily clear, to a man innocent of the concept of specially made feed for cats, why he should not dine on a can of tuna with a cat printed on the label) 726012;1403296626;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06380043 = 0.5104 BTC [-] {4} 726013;1403296924;asciilifeform;incidentally, mr stack was a firmware builder. 726014;1403296927;asciilifeform;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/plane-crash-suspects-online-diatribe?page=6 726015;1403296927;assbot;Plane Crash Suspect's Online Diatribe | The Smoking Gun 726016;1403296938;asciilifeform;probably could have gotten a slower, but more spectacular revenge. 726017;1403296988;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform sheep never make good wolves. 726018;1403296991;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06498295 = 0.5199 BTC [-] 726019;1403297001;*;asciilifeform awaits the epic rampage of a future mr. heap. 726020;1403297005;mircea_popescu;the reason for that'd be that sheep never make good wolves in the first place. 726021;1403297010;ThickAsThieves;mp you made it! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651315.msg7298687;topicseen#new 726022;1403297011;assbot;Hall of Shame Leaderboard/Awards: Vote for your Favorite Worst Crypto CEOs Ever! 726023;1403297024;Azelphur;asciilifeform: that site served me the wrong image the first time I loaded the page...so confusing 726024;1403297048;mircea_popescu;;;google mircea popescu ceo 726025;1403297049;gribble;Mircea Popescu | LinkedIn: ; The SEC asked this Romanian Bitcoin CEO for private data. Here is ...: ; An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: i remember from childhood, sets of cards that were naked women 726189;1403299657;mircea_popescu;great for strip poker 726190;1403300140;benkay;wth is this 726191;1403300153;benkay;the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125 726192;1403300174;benkay;i wonder if they're printed first and then turned into cans or what. 726193;1403300347;Mats_cd03;lol 726194;1403300370;benkay;;;ident Mats_cd03 726195;1403300370;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqqpqahqadiceog', is identified as user 'mats', with GPG key id B9527964891A5566, key fingerprint B37F49DC35FD838B1F8783CC59C93F63549036BD, and bitcoin address None 726196;1403300399;benkay;ah, that's how you're doing it. 726197;1403300405;benkay;;;gettrust assbot Mats_cd03 726198;1403300405;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Mats_cd03: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Mats_cd03 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Mats_cd03 | Rated since: Tue May 13 15:07:43 2014 726199;1403300414;benkay;;;gettrust assbot mats 726200;1403300415;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqqpqahqadiceog. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mats: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mats | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mats | Rated since: Thu Jun 19 20:47:48 2014 726201;1403300425;benkay;;;rate mats 1 726202;1403300426;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded. 726203;1403300478;mike_c;;;rate mats 1 726204;1403300480;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded. 726205;1403300610;benkay;overwhelming rate tsunami 726206;1403300616;benkay;of ones 726207;1403301286;benkay;https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/salt/ 726208;1403301303;benkay;http://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/ 726209;1403301327;benkay;what am i looking at 726210;1403301334;benkay;private key generation over http? 726211;1403301352;benkay;with php for evaluation? 726212;1403301419;punkman;so I just put together something to test betting strategies on past bitbets and guess what, betting 0.1 on No on all resolved bets would result in a net gain of 9.7 BTC 726213;1403301433;punkman;(at 90k weight) 726214;1403301465;mike_c;median gain? 726215;1403301471;mike_c;or, median result? 726216;1403301526;punkman;let me check 726217;1403301681;punkman;mike_c, 0.0747 726218;1403301690;mike_c;net or gross? 726219;1403301702;punkman;net 726220;1403301714;mike_c;impressive. 726221;1403301770;punkman;I'm just looking at bets with result = No 726222;1403301820;punkman;total net gain is 36.3 BTC, then I subtracted 26.6 BTC that I would need for the 266 bets that had result = Yes 726223;1403302056;punkman;0.1 is the magic number, 0.2 leaves you with only ~4 BTC net gain 726224;1403302225;punkman;0.08 on everything also gives ~10 BTC, 0.05 gives 8.5 BTC 726225;1403302351;kakobrekla;0.1 on all resolved would mean like 75btc 726226;1403302388;kakobrekla;9.7 btc on top is over 10 percent 726227;1403302400;punkman;yep pretty good strategy eh 726228;1403302406;kakobrekla;short the world. 726229;1403302419;punkman;http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-have-fun-as-an-intelligent-person/ "Because the outcome is binary, if you bet randomly over a long enough horizon of bets you should break even (well, minus Bitbet’s 1% house edge)." 726230;1403302421;assbot;How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 726231;1403302423;punkman;so that's wrong ^ 726232;1403302442;mike_c;how is betting no on everything random? 726233;1403302444;kakobrekla;well it could be that yes will pay for the next two years 726234;1403302449;kakobrekla;but 726235;1403302471;kakobrekla;given the bitcoin community state, id say that is unlikely 726236;1403302484;punkman;yes now that I've revealed this amazing strategy people will phrase propositions differently and ruin it 726237;1403302484;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 726238;1403302515;kakobrekla;you presume people read logs. 726239;1403302589;punkman;mike_c: my rng is really bad 726240;1403302608;punkman;but my point was that betting randomly will not break even 726241;1403302631;punkman;unless you are flipping a really bad coin 726242;1403302846;kakobrekla;wait until bitbet processes infinite amount of bets. 726243;1403302852;kakobrekla;er, resolves. 726244;1403302854;*;mthreat does this appear in the log 726245;1403302863;mthreat;appears so 726246;1403302872;kakobrekla;it appears it appears. 726247;1403302879;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/once-upon-a-time-i-wanted-to-draw-comic-books-for-a-living/ 726248;1403302910;mthreat;if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours 726249;1403302936;kakobrekla;o you beat me to it 726250;1403302937;kakobrekla;good job 726251;1403302957;mthreat;who runs log.bitcoin-assets ? 726252;1403302971;kakobrekla;some schmuck 726253;1403303030;mthreat;cool.. i'll hit up said schmuck once it's live, and maybe we can have whatever process adds to the log also send it to the search engine, so it'll be instantly searchable 726254;1403303097;kakobrekla;hm, can you connect to 0mq socket? 726255;1403303124;mthreat;i haven't before, but if it's easy to do from java, then yeah 726256;1403303135;kakobrekla;it prolly is. 726257;1403303153;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20971806 = 1.0486 BTC [+] {5} 726258;1403303156;kakobrekla;ill set that up at some point then 726259;1403303193;mthreat;ok, or i can set up an http endpoint where you can POST irc entries as they come in 726260;1403303229;kakobrekla;tbh i dont think its an issue if sync is done daily or so 726261;1403303241;kakobrekla;brb 726262;1403303269;mike_c;^ agreed. pretty easy to search today's log. 726263;1403303285;mike_c;it's just looking for something said X weeks ago that's a pita 726264;1403303397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+] 726265;1403303402;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/scotus-finances-2013.pdf << lol, berkshire 726266;1403303483;asciilifeform;guess which scotus judge has debts. 726267;1403303486;asciilifeform;(1) 726268;1403303573;benkay;but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla 726269;1403303630;mthreat;benkay: ya, who runs assbot? 726270;1403303642;mike_c;some schmuck 726271;1403303655;mike_c;;;ident assbot 726272;1403303655;gribble;Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified. 726273;1403303774;benkay;Sumyungai 726274;1403303822;benkay;;;gettrust sumyungai 726275;1403303823;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user sumyungai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=sumyungai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sumyungai | Rated since: Thu May 16 01:23:02 2013 726276;1403303829;mike_c;who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills? 726277;1403303847;mike_c;i dun understand 726278;1403303881;asciilifeform;mike_c: usg sent several $b in actual benjamins to iraq. i thought this was common knowledge. 726279;1403303893;ThickAsThieves;i saw a swallow-tailed kite recently, didnt even know birds that looked like it existed http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OLOeI6hddls/T1YL5sfdhbI/AAAAAAAAHKU/Bt_jCJmbbzM/s1600/swallow-tailed+kit%C2%A9LillianStokes.jpg 726280;1403303917;mike_c;asciilifeform: so you're saying they filled up some duffel bags and walked out with $400m? that must have been heavy. 726281;1403303986;mike_c;;;calc 4000000 / 450 726282;1403303986;gribble;8888.88888889 726283;1403303994;mike_c;9,000 lbs of money.. 726284;1403304014;asciilifeform;a benjamin weights ~1g 726285;1403304024;asciilifeform;(same as other us currency) 726286;1403304029;mike_c;yeah. 4m bills / 450 grams per lb 726287;1403304121;asciilifeform;4000 kg, yes 726288;1403304127;asciilifeform;one dump truck. 726289;1403304335;mike_c;ok. that computes. seems like a logistical nightmare though. who guards the dump truck with $400m in it? 726290;1403304396;asciilifeform;a column of identical trucks. 726291;1403304450;*;asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't load the truck. but these are basics. 726292;1403304472;mike_c;somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going. 726293;1403304541;mike_c;and also, fu linux. g++: internal compiler error: Killed 726294;1403304623;benkay;could be worse 726295;1403304624;benkay;os x 726296;1403304913;mike_c;this is me today: http://widgetsandshit.com/teddziuba/2009/08/context-switches-are-bad-but-s.html 726297;1403304914;assbot;Context Switches are Bad, but Stack Traces are Worse 726298;1403304934;mike_c;you know, without the annoying manager. 726299;1403305327;benkay;python is a code smell 726300;1403305337;benkay;^^ new favorite incendiary device 726301;1403305351;benkay;lob it at a bunch of programmers, watch the sparks 726302;1403305370;asciilifeform;wtf is a code smell 726303;1403305386;benkay;fuck if i know, but everyone gets riled up. 726304;1403305392;benkay;;;google code smell 726305;1403305392;gribble;Code smell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Code Smells - Coding Horror: ; CodeSmell - Martin Fowler: 726306;1403305410;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0649 = 0.7788 BTC [-] 726307;1403305411;*;asciilifeform guesses it is the odour of perl used in confined quarters 726308;1403305417;benkay;"Code smells are usually not bugs—they are not technically incorrect and do not currently prevent the program from functioning. Instead, they indicate weaknesses in design that may be slowing down development or increasing the risk of bugs or failures in the future." 726309;1403305421;asciilifeform;tends to make people... hurl 726310;1403305430;benkay;ouch. 726311;1403305989;mike_c;kakobrekla: you know bitcoind apparently takes in amounts in fucking btc, not satoshis? you probably knew this. this is retarded. 726312;1403306002;mike_c;news flash: bitcoind sucks. 726313;1403306003;kakobrekla;yes 726314;1403306028;kakobrekla;at least it can handle sci notation 726315;1403306049;kakobrekla;or at least did. 726316;1403306202;benkay;working with bitcoin stuff makes me want types in a bad way 726317;1403307550;TheNewDeal;bc,stats 726318;1403307560;TheNewDeal;bc,,stats 726319;1403307621;benkay;;;bc,stats 726320;1403307624;gribble;Current Blocks: 306914 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1533 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15853327045.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.75846 726321;1403307627;benkay;;) 726322;1403307642;Mats_cd03;hue 726323;1403307670;Mats_cd03;c wut i did thar? 726324;1403307696;benkay;wut u doon 726325;1403307711;benkay;dis ain't 4chn breh 726326;1403307758;Mats_cd03;har 726327;1403307764;TheNewDeal;thought I was one on one with gribble there 726328;1403307772;Mats_cd03;assets search engine? already exists 726329;1403307778;Mats_cd03;;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com dongs 726330;1403307778;gribble;NEXT: 10-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 24-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 24-06-2013 - #bitcoin-assets log: 726331;1403307790;Mats_cd03;even works in channel, how nice is that? 726332;1403307824;benkay;oh c'mon let mthreat be useful 726333;1403307832;benkay;quit pissing in errybody cheerios 726334;1403307851;Mats_cd03;my life sux wut m i gonna do besides criticize people 726335;1403307899;benkay;dunno boss maybe learn haskell? 726336;1403307911;Mats_cd03;haskell is fucking gay 726337;1403307949;TheNewDeal;wooooh there. I've seen haskell fuck the hottest chicks 726338;1403307975;Mats_cd03;my year long vacation from employment is about to end 726339;1403307995;TheNewDeal;oooh I pulled a 6 month stint last year 726340;1403307996;Mats_cd03;time to apply to be an it slave 726341;1403308009;Mats_cd03;anyone want to buy me a nice collar? 726342;1403308039;TheNewDeal;peraps 726343;1403308069;benkay;you gotta earn those 726344;1403308070;TheNewDeal;how do I know it's not going to end up with hookers and blow though? 726345;1403308089;mthreat;haskell has a purpose ya know. at UT Austin it (was) used as a freshman weed-out class. 726346;1403308100;mike_c;so, g++ was crashing because not enough memory. it couldn't just tell me that? have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory? 726347;1403308114;benkay;Mats_cd03: what kinda IT do you do? 726348;1403308153;benkay;mike_c: you could be trying to run Jira yourself on the JVM. "not too little memory, not too much. just...right." 726349;1403308187;benkay;i suspect when one pays for hosted jira someone is staring at htop and intervening manually. 726350;1403308194;Mats_cd03;i administered win machines and a few linux boxes for the nerds in the clean room at my last IT job 726351;1403308204;Mats_cd03;along with misc work that comes with being lowest tier monkey in dept 726352;1403308217;mike_c;benkay: ugh. sounds worth paying for. 726353;1403308232;Mats_cd03;im learning puppet so perhaps i can buy myself a nice collar 726354;1403308306;benkay;if you make pilgrimage to puppet hq make sure you ping me - beers on my tab 726355;1403308323;Mats_cd03;i spent most of the last year doing firmware haxn in hopes id be good enough to apply for like jobs 726356;1403308334;Mats_cd03;no such luck... 726357;1403308349;TheNewDeal;holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year? 726358;1403308355;benkay;mhm. 726359;1403308361;benkay;slt. 726360;1403308367;Mats_cd03;thanks qt 726361;1403308399;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+] 726362;1403308426;benkay;QE, d'ya mean? 726363;1403308438;Mats_cd03;huh 726364;1403308493;benkay;30 -> 229: it's gotta be Quantitative Easing 726365;1403308587;benkay;whats the qt you're talking about - not the UI kit? 726366;1403308601;Mats_cd03;im sayn youre a cutie for offering a drink 726367;1403308609;Mats_cd03;now im gay 726368;1403308615;TheNewDeal;hahaha 726369;1403308628;TheNewDeal;QE is definitely pumping the stocks at the moment 726370;1403308665;benkay;it's been a queer day, Mats_cd03 - it's not your fault. 726371;1403308671;benkay;must be the stars. 726372;1403308765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06424997 = 0.514 BTC [+] {4} 726373;1403308826;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0639186 = 0.6392 BTC [-] {3} 726374;1403308883;Mats_cd03;people are unreasonable when it comes to musk 726375;1403308887;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06373112 = 0.8285 BTC [-] {3} 726376;1403308888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1025 @ 0.0008 = 0.82 BTC [-] 726377;1403308902;benkay;they just get a whiff and *blammmo* can't keep 'em off me 726378;1403308923;Mats_cd03;you'd think he was jesus preparing to take the believers to live on mars 726379;1403308967;Mats_cd03;from the way people pile on TSLA 726380;1403309009;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.06340475 = 1.3315 BTC [-] {4} 726381;1403309019;TheNewDeal;hahaha 726382;1403309034;TheNewDeal;benkay totally confused me for a second there 726383;1403309095;TheNewDeal;imagine if he let people purchase his cars with bitcoin 726384;1403309101;TheNewDeal;reddit would go craaazy 726385;1403309131;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0610754 = 1.7101 BTC [-] {4} 726386;1403309132;benkay;and nothing would change. 726387;1403309148;benkay;anyone with the btc to lay on a tesla can lay the cash on it, and probably more easily. 726388;1403309151;kakobrekla;afaik you can buy tesla with btc (buttstamp guys didit) 726389;1403309170;benkay;huh 726390;1403309183;TheNewDeal;did reddit go crazy?!? 726391;1403309184;benkay;i guess that's what you get when you sell directly - the freedom to take whatever 726392;1403309192;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.06006885 = 1.9222 BTC [-] {3} 726393;1403309200;Mats_cd03;in practical terms it ends up converted to fiat anyway 726394;1403309213;kakobrekla;http://cdn.kme.si/public/images-cache/640xX/2013/12/18/36025dbe8663ff565475ac75d251530e/52b1bf4763e1f/36025dbe8663ff565475ac75d251530e.jpeg 726395;1403309215;kakobrekla;there ya go 726396;1403309244;TheNewDeal;http://mashable.com/2013/12/09/tesla-bitcoin/ this dude bought it for 91.4 BTC. Probably could return it for just as much right now 726397;1403309244;assbot;Man Buys $103K Tesla Model S With Bitcoin 726398;1403309247;Mats_cd03;http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/tesla-model-s-bitcoin-purchase-false/ 726399;1403309249;assbot;Tesla not bought with Bitcoin currency after all? - Autoblog 726400;1403309258;Mats_cd03;TheNewDeal: ^ 726401;1403309265;benkay;wow there's a fucking hack 726402;1403309269;benkay;buy a tesla with btc 726403;1403309272;benkay;let it depreciate 726404;1403309276;benkay;recoup btc 726405;1403309279;Mats_cd03;you think dealerships have the freedom to hold btc? 726406;1403309281;*;kakobrekla paid 500btc for his golf cart 726407;1403309294;Mats_cd03;they get fucking bent over by manufacturers, mate 726408;1403309299;TheNewDeal;I don't think the dealeship would allow your to return it for the same amount of btc 726409;1403309333;benkay;hang on i may be a few too beers deep to keep track of my +/- axes 726410;1403309375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10675 @ 0.00079982 = 8.5381 BTC [-] 726411;1403309377;benkay;buy car, btc appreciates, car depreciates, get fucked. 726412;1403309427;TheNewDeal;yes but this would have been a different situation, as bitcoin was $1000+ at the time 726413;1403309498;BingoBoingo;mike_c: This is a troubling increase in hash 726414;1403309508;benkay;TheNewDeal: mhm. 726415;1403309541;mike_c;yeah, we lose. it's ok, we had good odds. 726416;1403309548;TheNewDeal;last two changes effed you guys 726417;1403309564;TheNewDeal;I guess the 12.44 wasn't that bad 726418;1403309571;TheNewDeal;this current potential change and the last 726419;1403309741;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2505 @ 0.00080059 = 2.0055 BTC [+] 726420;1403309863;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0600106 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {4} 726421;1403309969;TheNewDeal;I wouldn't mind if the hash jumped off a cliff right now 726422;1403309978;TheNewDeal;or took a big stumble 726423;1403310018;TheNewDeal;tried to make a little hedge bet on with the next change and it backfired in my face 726424;1403310040;benkay;don't bet against diff, boss 726425;1403310070;TheNewDeal;why does everyone say that? 726426;1403310103;TheNewDeal;part of the bet requires an actual decent estimate on what the diff will be at that point 726427;1403310236;benkay;hey nerds redis or memcached? 726428;1403310299;punkman;redis has more useful data structures 726429;1403310444;benkay;decision made thank you punkman 726430;1403310506;punkman;benkay: maybe of interest: http://aphyr.com/posts/307-call-me-maybe-redis-redux 726431;1403310507;assbot;Call me maybe: Redis redux 726432;1403310675;benkay;thanks again punkman 726433;1403310693;benkay;i'm not facing lots of writes but rather reads 726434;1403310718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2780 @ 0.00080059 = 2.2256 BTC [+] 726435;1403310727;punkman;guy's doing some good there with that Jepsen thing 726436;1403310734;punkman;*some good work 726437;1403310840;benkay;aaaand i may not even use a cacheing layer at the end of the day 726438;1403310900;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.06491932 = 0.9738 BTC [-] {4} 726439;1403310969;TheNewDeal;wondering how many food stamps have been purchased with bitcoin 726440;1403311144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00080333 = 7.7481 BTC [+] {2} 726441;1403311232;Mats_cd03;what universe do you live in 726442;1403311388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00079845 = 3.2736 BTC [-] 726443;1403311482;TheNewDeal;it was a joooke dude 726444;1403311510;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.06209101 = 1.366 BTC [-] {6} 726445;1403311578;moiety;amiga? 726446;1403311658;benkay;hola aiga 726447;1403311659;benkay;amiga 726448;1403311684;moiety;hola! 726449;1403311731;moiety;firefox just lost five pieces of work that ive been doing for past two days, so pissed off 726450;1403311799;moiety;well not really pissed off, but it wasnt fun. how are you benkay? 726451;1403311945;benkay;brutal, bruja 726452;1403311954;benkay;i'm well 726453;1403311970;benkay;doing some exploratory hacking. it's coming along nicely. 726454;1403311983;moiety;sounds interesting 726455;1403312029;benkay;i'm sure you'll see something about it before i die 726456;1403312037;benkay;but also probably after the cardano ships 726457;1403312216;moiety;not the smallest window of time XD but i'll wait patiently :] 726458;1403312242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06 = 0.66 BTC [+] 726459;1403312335;benkay;http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/ 726460;1403312335;assbot;BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (96%) on Yes, 0.05 B (4%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 week| weight: 85`913 (100`000 to 1) 726461;1403312364;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.06 = 1.68 BTC [+] 726462;1403312402;benkay;TheNewDeal: that TSLA bet is interesting - aren't we p.close to 250 already? 726463;1403312441;mike_c;TheNewDeal: everyone says that because 1) you can't draw a line from previous diff changes to future (see moore's law), and 2) despite this it just keeps marching up. 726464;1403312489;benkay;lol ya diff is watching bitbet just to fuck people who bet against it 726465;1403312500;TheNewDeal;mike_c , what I'm saying is that some people don't know how to calculate a good difficulty 726466;1403312501;mike_c;diff is mean-spirited asshole. 726467;1403312524;TheNewDeal;April, May, and :June were all Nos 726468;1403312624;mike_c;ok, so with your superior prognostication, what weight did you get on the may bet? 726469;1403312625;TheNewDeal;guess it was just april and may 726470;1403312671;TheNewDeal;never said I had superior prognostication 726471;1403312688;mike_c;hehe. it was implied by "some people can't calculate" 726472;1403312688;TheNewDeal;I bet at the end of march 726473;1403312693;TheNewDeal;bet was started at the end of january 726474;1403312726;TheNewDeal;here's the thing 726475;1403312729;mike_c;k. betting that difficulty won't double in a month is not "betting against diff" 726476;1403312743;TheNewDeal;The majority of those that bet Yes on May bet early 726477;1403312748;TheNewDeal;when it's much harder to tell 726478;1403312777;TheNewDeal;regardless 726479;1403312818;TheNewDeal;look at the majority of bets there 726480;1403312824;TheNewDeal;not just my late bet 726481;1403312830;TheNewDeal;I'm typically a conservative better 726482;1403312843;mike_c;the majority were late when it was obvious. 726483;1403312846;TheNewDeal;I would rather earn a sure, small portion, versus risk a lot 726484;1403312852;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14372 @ 0.00080006 = 11.4985 BTC [+] 726485;1403312894;TheNewDeal;after 84'000 weight, there were only 2 Yes bets 726486;1403312906;mike_c;all i'm saying is, if you think you have an edge, whip up some IDIFF.SEP contracts. 726487;1403312908;TheNewDeal;and those people were probably just looking at pot odds 726488;1403312920;TheNewDeal;I don't have the capital to trade on mpoe 726489;1403312930;TheNewDeal;would love to, but just not my reality 726490;1403312931;mike_c;coinbr is full featured these days. 726491;1403312955;TheNewDeal;staying far from coinbr for the time being 726492;1403312962;TheNewDeal;no offense, just not my cup of tea 726493;1403312965;mike_c;why? 726494;1403312983;TheNewDeal;I trading what I own and owning what I trade 726495;1403312987;TheNewDeal;i like * 726496;1403312999;mike_c;you think coinbr is too much counterparty risk? 726497;1403313015;mike_c;;;gettrust TheNewDeal jurov 726498;1403313016;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user TheNewDeal to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=TheNewDeal&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012 726499;1403313027;TheNewDeal;I have no problems with jurov 726500;1403313063;mike_c;i'm not trying to bust balls, i'm honestly curious. 726501;1403313089;TheNewDeal;let me throw out a hypothetical here 726502;1403313109;TheNewDeal;let's say I am comfortable investing 10 BTC through coinbr ( I'm not) 726503;1403313125;TheNewDeal;to me, a healthy return over one year (in BTC) would be 10% 726504;1403313135;TheNewDeal;that makes 11 BTC 726505;1403313147;TheNewDeal;subtract account management fees, and thats 10.76 726506;1403313164;mike_c;ok, i'm with you 726507;1403313189;TheNewDeal;with NO withdrawls, that has just taken 1/4 of my profits over a year 726508;1403313285;mike_c;ok. so point #1, you think it's too expensive. but why wouldn't you be comfortable putting in 10 btc? 726509;1403313297;TheNewDeal;that's over 1/2 of my ownership 726510;1403313306;TheNewDeal;not an early adopter 726511;1403313315;mike_c;but you would be comfortable putting that much on bitbet? 726512;1403313320;TheNewDeal;most definitely 726513;1403313321;TheNewDeal;for instance 726514;1403313343;TheNewDeal;if I put down 10 BTC on this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ 726515;1403313343;assbot;BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (15%) on Yes, 415.18 B (85%) on No | closing in 5 months 22 hours | weight: 42`696 (100`000 to 1) 726516;1403313354;TheNewDeal;the return is sitting at ~9% over a 5 month period 726517;1403313360;TheNewDeal;and it's a hedge 726518;1403313373;mike_c;interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :) 726519;1403313381;TheNewDeal;it has nothing to do with trust 726520;1403313394;mike_c;well, it does if you're comfortable putting 10 btc in bitbet and not coinbr 726521;1403313401;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9528 @ 0.00080251 = 7.6463 BTC [+] 726522;1403313432;TheNewDeal;coinbr is restricted to MPOE stocks, and I'm very unfamiliar with them compared to those who trade 726523;1403313443;TheNewDeal;on bitbet, I can pick and choose what I feel comfortable with 726524;1403313465;mike_c;ok. lemme ask this then. if you thought you could get a 20% return on coinbr in a year, would you invest 10 btc? 726525;1403313502;TheNewDeal;perhaps less 726526;1403313565;TheNewDeal;what I would really like to do is start off with 2 or so BTC until I feel comfortable with it 726527;1403313569;TheNewDeal;but that would be a waste of money 726528;1403313605;mike_c;how would you feel if the monthly fee were lower and the trading fees higher? 726529;1403313635;TheNewDeal;dislike 726530;1403313650;mike_c;well.. something's gotta cost. brokers aren't free. 726531;1403313660;TheNewDeal;I would prefer that he were like a hedge fund manager, making % off your winnings 726532;1403313676;mike_c;hm. hedge fund managers get a fee too. 726533;1403313684;mike_c;besides performance fees 726534;1403313694;kakobrekla;depends. 726535;1403313696;kakobrekla;:D 726536;1403313696;TheNewDeal;usually is a tiny percentage of what they manage 726537;1403313697;punkman;tweaked bitbet strategy: 10 BTC for 500x 0.02 bets, net gain 3.92 BTC 726538;1403313723;TheNewDeal;punkman, have you done this successfully? 726539;1403313734;punkman;I think I will try 726540;1403313740;punkman;just testing over past bets 726541;1403313754;mike_c;except kako, who won't take any money unless he thinks he earns it (very un-hedge fund like) 726542;1403313772;kakobrekla;lol, less scammy. 726543;1403313967;TheNewDeal;the thing I also like about bitbet is that you can pick off bets that are almost for sure winners, and look for a certain return 726544;1403313977;moiety;nothing wrong with that, i'm same 726545;1403313997;mike_c;right up until you're wrong :) 726546;1403314059;moiety;how can you be wrong wanting to earn your money XD 726547;1403314059;punkman;well if this retarded strategy can do 46% I think I got some margin for error 726548;1403314084;TheNewDeal;that doesnt make sense to me 726549;1403314093;TheNewDeal;arent you just picking and choosing past bets that would make money? 726550;1403314098;punkman;no 726551;1403314103;TheNewDeal;you're betting on everything? 726552;1403314106;kakobrekla;46% what ? 726553;1403314125;punkman;10.16 BTC in, net gain 4.59 BTC 726554;1403314132;punkman;betting on no, skipping certain bets 726555;1403314138;TheNewDeal;lol 726556;1403314142;TheNewDeal;how would you know which to skip? 726557;1403314151;mike_c;punkman: you should look into some of the theory about backtesting. like, you can't use the same data you develop your hypothesis on to test your strategy. 726558;1403314173;kakobrekla;yeap 726559;1403314179;kakobrekla;well you can 726560;1403314184;kakobrekla;but it will be shit prolly. 726561;1403314191;mike_c;heh, yes. "can't" is a strong word. 726562;1403314194;kakobrekla;:D 726563;1403314392;TheNewDeal;is there a minimum for password protected bets? 726564;1403314404;mike_c;TheNewDeal: last comment from me, i'm really not trying to sell you. But that 'tiny percentage' you were talking about from hedge fund managers is usually 2%. which is the same fee as coinbr in your 10 BTC example. 726565;1403314450;TheNewDeal;2% is more like a fee for an index fund 726566;1403314470;kakobrekla;the retarded standard is 2/20 726567;1403314493;TheNewDeal;2% fee and 20% of profit? 726568;1403314512;kakobrekla;yes 2% mgmt fee, 20 profit allocation 726569;1403314535;*;kakobrekla will burn your money for free. 726570;1403314537;TheNewDeal;mike_c if you read what I said, I told you that I was NOT comfortable risking 10 BTC on coinbr/mpoe 726571;1403314545;TheNewDeal;I said something more like 2 BTC to begin with 726572;1403314554;mike_c;yup, i got that. just talking about the fees. 726573;1403314573;TheNewDeal;;;calc .02*12/2 726574;1403314574;gribble;0.12 726575;1403314574;punkman;mike_c, wanna make some synthetic data for testing? 726576;1403314623;TheNewDeal;punkman, are you betting both sides, or are you just picking winners :p 726577;1403314627;mike_c;punkman: you can cut up the data you have into pieces. but I really don't think there's enough for much confidence in results. 726578;1403314669;mike_c;strategy like MPIF's is really based more on a belief about how the system works rather than statistical analysis. 726579;1403314739;mike_c;but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis. 726580;1403314804;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.02021088 = 1.152 BTC [-] {4} 726581;1403314865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00080649 = 12.7829 BTC [+] 726582;1403314983;TheNewDeal;mike_c my reason against coinbr is more of opportunity cost versus harboring any malice against the site or jurov 726583;1403315038;mike_c;understood. i just see you as a good potential customer for coinbr, so I was trying to dig into why you were hesitant. i think i get it. 726584;1403315098;TheNewDeal;quiz question. If I were on coinbr, and then bought a MPOE account, what would he charge to transfer shares 726585;1403315122;mike_c;i believe withdrawal/asset transfers are the same 726586;1403315131;TheNewDeal;gotcha 726587;1403315170;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.01969756 = 0.65 BTC [-] {5} 726588;1403315504;TheNewDeal;okay so I'm reading jurov's writeup on x.diff 726589;1403315539;TheNewDeal;I never knew about the collateral cap on payout 726590;1403315718;ThickAsThieves;a couple times a year jurov and i give mp a hard time about x.diff design 726591;1403315719;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.06499999 = 4.55 BTC [+] {2} 726592;1403315752;TheNewDeal;I'm really confused tho 726593;1403315781;TheNewDeal;where's the money to be made for those that mkfut ? 726594;1403315805;ThickAsThieves;fwiw, if that TSLA bitbet gets approved, i'll play 726595;1403315819;TheNewDeal;which side will you bet :D 726596;1403315830;ThickAsThieves;i'd need to chart it more 726597;1403315839;ThickAsThieves;i'd say yes probly 726598;1403315841;[]bot;Bet created: "Contador wins Tour De France" http://bitbet.us/bet/952/ 726599;1403315850;TheNewDeal;Dec 14 option for $250 is selling for a premium of 18$ 726600;1403315852;ThickAsThieves;i have a top around there though 726601;1403315902;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0185 = 0.925 BTC [+] 726602;1403315961;decimation;"mircea_popescu: well, for one if you fly high enough you don't actually have to report" << it's my understanding that you must file with IFR, which is generally high flight. Flying low in clear air (VFR) would be the ticket. 726603;1403315989;decimation;but even then, "they" are tracking you: http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works 726604;1403315989;assbot;How it works - Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! 726605;1403316012;decimation;MLAT In some regions with coverage from several FR24-receivers we also calculate positions of aircraft with the help of Multilateration (MLAT), by using a method known as Time Difference of Arrival (TDOA). ... That means that MLAT coverage can only be achieved above about 10000 feet as the probability that signal can be received by four or more receivers increases with increased altitude. 726606;1403316024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.065 = 0.91 BTC [+] {3} 726607;1403316079;[]bot;Bet created: "True Detective to win Drama Emmy" http://bitbet.us/bet/953/ 726608;1403316083;decimation;except... " Blocking For security and privacy reasons information about some aircraft is limited or blocked." I wonder how you get into their wot? 726609;1403316128;TheNewDeal;if all flights were tracked so damn well at least I would have to wake up to another fucking Flight 379 update 726610;1403316141;decimation;you mean 370? 726611;1403316145;TheNewDeal;yes 726612;1403316149;TheNewDeal;-9 726613;1403316173;decimation;well, the data these guys use comes from "volunteers" who operate receivers attached to internet connection 726614;1403316183;decimation;not many of them in turd world countries or the ocean... 726615;1403316215;TheNewDeal;I will happily trade my constant position location as long as I don't have to have another one of those updates. Do you hear me Big Brother? You've finally won 726616;1403316235;TheNewDeal;just quit the tortute already 726617;1403316297;decimation;if you really want to move about mostly unbothered, I suggest a submarine. Or walk. 726618;1403316452;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3717 @ 0.00080481 = 2.9915 BTC [-] 726619;1403316643;decimation;re: flew plane into IRS building: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack 726620;1403316643;assbot;2010 Austin suicide attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 726621;1403316691;TheNewDeal;holy shit! only two people died? 726622;1403316693;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin VC investments over $300 million in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/954/ 726623;1403316772;decimation;"Introduced by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Section 1706 added a subsection (d) to Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978, which removed "safe harbor" exception for independent contractor classification (which at the time avoided payroll taxes) for workers such as engineers, designers, drafters, computer professionals, and "similarly skilled" workers." 726624;1403316854;decimation;Congress took away the presumption that engineers can work as independent contractors, thus reducing their ability to be self employed. 726625;1403316923;decimation;whereas real estate agents have a "very special tax status" http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/real-estate-agent-special-classification-rules-for-independent-contractor-status.html 726626;1403316926;assbot;Real Estate Agent Special Classification Rules For Independent Contractor Status | Nolo.com 726627;1403316947;decimation;they are automatically considered to be independent contractors even when employed and given a salary. 726628;1403317016;[]bot;Bet created: "Tesla stock to close at over $250 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/955/ 726629;1403317098;TheNewDeal;here it is punkman, begin your hypothesis test on a fresh bet 726630;1403317167;decimation;now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? 726631;1403317245;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27638 @ 0.00080803 = 22.3323 BTC [+] {3} 726632;1403317610;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06799962 = 1.836 BTC [+] {2} 726633;1403317631;decimation;http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/19/markets-precious-idUSL4N0P025U20140619 726634;1403317631;assbot;PRECIOUS-Gold surges 3 pct in 'frantic' short covering after Fed| Reuters 726635;1403317656;decimation;presumably this is also good news for those long bitcoin 726636;1403317845;decimation;asciilifeform - I was spec'ing some Intel chips today, and realized that their marketing strategy (for all segments) relies on maximally obfuscating the functionality of their products 726637;1403317871;TheNewDeal;hahahah 726638;1403317890;TheNewDeal;and somehow they continue to make a profit... 726639;1403317938;decimation;well, a large chunk of "computer" "purchasers" have no idea what the hell they are buying, so I can see why they would do it 726640;1403317963;decimation;it's hard to convince even the dumbest of the masses to pay more for less ... unless they don't know they are buying 726641;1403317981;TheNewDeal;I would assume corportations buy more computers than people though 726642;1403317995;TheNewDeal;doesn't necessarily negate your point, but 726643;1403318027;decimation;a big chunk of corporate 'buyers' would really be happy with a slightly updated wang word processor 726644;1403318113;decimation;I use the scare quotes for "buyer" because I'm not sure the word applies to someone giving money to someone in exchange for something they don't understand 726645;1403318159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.068 = 0.952 BTC [+] 726646;1403318207;TheNewDeal;you're taking most of the buyers out of the world economy with that statement 726647;1403318220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00080678 = 24.2034 BTC [-] {2} 726648;1403318221;decimation;indeed. 726649;1403318228;moiety;http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/google-unveils-independent-fork-of-openssl-called-boringssl/ 726650;1403318229;assbot;Google unveils independent fork of OpenSSL called BoringSSL | Ars Technica 726651;1403318403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00080481 = 1.9315 BTC [-] 726652;1403318555;mike_c;dig @54.197.241.190 seeds.therealaltcoin.org 726653;1403318568;mike_c;^ altcoin-seeder seems to be working 726654;1403318841;mike_c;so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at the above IP address, we should have seeding. 726655;1403318922;mike_c;source code will have to be updated too obv, to add seeds.therealtco.org to the inital seed list. 726656;1403319135;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01858999 = 1.0039 BTC [+] 726657;1403319196;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11888 @ 0.00080424 = 9.5608 BTC [-] {3} 726658;1403319352;TheNewDeal;what happens to collateral when one sells an xdiff? 726659;1403319440;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.0008095 = 19.0637 BTC [+] {2} 726660;1403319509;kakobrekla;just wanna say before it go, mthreats search === awesome 726661;1403319729;decimation;are you going to make the logs searchable with his software? 726662;1403319865;mthreat;yep 726663;1403319929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00080996 = 3.0374 BTC [+] 726664;1403320047;decimation;mthreat your highest google result is the bbs interview - I like your model M keyboard in the background 726665;1403320294;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00080999 = 5.3054 BTC [+] 726666;1403320477;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.068 = 1.36 BTC [+] 726667;1403320940;mthreat;decimation: ya that loud ass keyboard 726668;1403321209;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00080353 = 4.2989 BTC [-] 726669;1403321344;mthreat;!up napedia 726670;1403321450;mthreat;!up napedia 726671;1403322185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8234 @ 0.00080353 = 6.6163 BTC [-] 726672;1403322673;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.06829404 = 1.161 BTC [+] {5} 726673;1403322978;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00080651 = 18.3884 BTC [+] {2} 726674;1403323466;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06899998 = 0.966 BTC [+] {2} 726675;1403323893;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899999 = 0.69 BTC [+] 726676;1403323954;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12897 @ 0.00080335 = 10.3608 BTC [-] {2} 726677;1403324320;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1102 @ 0.00080273 = 0.8846 BTC [-] 726678;1403324930;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899999 = 0.69 BTC [+] 726679;1403326394;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00080215 = 9.7862 BTC [-] 726680;1403327065;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00080208 = 3.4489 BTC [-] {2} 726681;1403327248;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3962 @ 0.00080243 = 3.1792 BTC [+] 726682;1403327675;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17479 @ 0.00080243 = 14.0257 BTC [+] 726683;1403327858;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06517444 = 1.1731 BTC [-] {4} 726684;1403329566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06897776 = 0.9657 BTC [+] {4} 726685;1403329749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.0185888 = 0.7807 BTC [-] 726686;1403330603;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18664 @ 0.00080393 = 15.0045 BTC [+] {2} 726687;1403331152;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.0008023 = 16.728 BTC [-] {2} 726688;1403331579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3286 @ 0.00080231 = 2.6364 BTC [+] 726689;1403331762;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.03847462 = 0.6156 BTC [-] 726690;1403331823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899998 = 0.69 BTC [+] {3} 726691;1403332208;Mats_cd03;white girl wasted 726692;1403332433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00080203 = 4.0503 BTC [-] 726693;1403332563;xmj;moin 726694;1403332567;xmj;any SCUBA divers around? 726695;1403332799;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.069 = 3.657 BTC [+] {3} 726696;1403334141;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00079988 = 18.0773 BTC [-] {4} 726697;1403334507;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14660 @ 0.00079892 = 11.7122 BTC [-] 726698;1403334690;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00079892 = 11.3047 BTC [-] 726699;1403335300;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 74 @ 0.03847462 = 2.8471 BTC [-] 726700;1403335379;mircea_popescu;ah god orange juice 726701;1403335384;mircea_popescu;such a brilliant invention 726702;1403335727;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.06847623 = 2.876 BTC [-] {4} 726703;1403336337;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00079892 = 4.1144 BTC [-] 726704;1403336764;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26499 @ 0.00080247 = 21.2647 BTC [+] {2} 726705;1403337268;punkman;morning 726706;1403337496;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00079883 = 15.4574 BTC [-] {2} 726707;1403337637;mircea_popescu;hey 726708;1403337655;mircea_popescu;shit it's 5am 726709;1403337672;mircea_popescu;who the hell is still on origin time after a month in a different timezone i wish to know ?! 726710;1403337723;punkman;I don't think you were on .ro time even when you were in .ro 726711;1403337730;xmj;people too lazy to fix their /etc/localtime. 726712;1403337802;mircea_popescu;punkman hmm this is a point 726713;1403337822;mircea_popescu;tho i kinda tended to wake 11ish 726714;1403337825;mircea_popescu;which is what it's now 726715;1403338461;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/moar-haxxing-moar-haxxing-have-a-look-an-here-we-go/ 726716;1403339082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00080189 = 2.8066 BTC [+] 726717;1403339562;mircea_popescu;benkay: the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125 << maybe it's so it reads right when you're drunk 726718;1403339621;cazalla;mircea_popescu: i forgot to add dogecoin creator jackson palmer to the list of .au scammers 726719;1403339652;mircea_popescu;what is it with you bunch of ex brtish convicts over there!!1 726720;1403339693;mircea_popescu;benkay: http://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/ << ok that's fuckign out there. 726721;1403339726;mircea_popescu;the sp[eed at which they spit the shit out, too. 726722;1403339735;mircea_popescu;urandom ? 726723;1403339830;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: short the world. << "the little bettor that said no" 726724;1403339933;mircea_popescu;mike_c: how is betting no on everything random? << how isn't it ? 726725;1403339936;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 89 @ 0.01673707 = 1.4896 BTC [-] {8} 726726;1403339982;mircea_popescu;mthreat: if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours << o hey! 726727;1403340018;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: hm, can you connect to 0mq socket? << kako doesn't get enough sex so he's socketed all the things. 726728;1403340058;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02206642 = 1.5446 BTC [+] {6} 726729;1403340077;mircea_popescu;benkay: but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla << defo, point of entire exercize. 726730;1403340098;mircea_popescu;mike_c: who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills? << yes. 726731;1403340111;mircea_popescu;ro central bank has about a billion in shit in its central vault for instance. 726732;1403340131;mircea_popescu;these are precious metals, bearer bonds, various certs and other valuable paper 726733;1403340147;mircea_popescu;shitty middleeastern banks prolly keep usd/eur bills too 726734;1403340257;mircea_popescu;mike_c: somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going. << you fundamentally misunderstand revolutions. 726735;1403340264;mircea_popescu;nobody's stealing that shit, forget about it. 726736;1403340475;mircea_popescu;benkay << i can't believe the guy actually proposed an inability to remember wtf he's doing and why as a sort of intellectual manliness. 726737;1403340499;mircea_popescu;fuck you, if you don't recall why you're here you're red fucking riding hood here to meet the wolf, not a coder writing code. 726738;1403340527;mircea_popescu;"i am 12 and what is every option that i have explored ???" 726739;1403340549;punkman;stack trace is great for perspective 726740;1403340557;punkman;like maybe we need to tell root cause to fuck off 726741;1403340577;mircea_popescu;right. 726742;1403340579;mircea_popescu;"I'm compiling a new version of libxml, so I can get the Python parser working. I need to do that because LXML, the Python binding, would crash under heavy load when I used the system default version of libxml. I am using LXML because BeautifulSoup doesn't have support for XPath. I need to do XPath transforms against the input because the legacy system we interact with doesn't send well-formed XML. We tried to get the 726743;1403340579;mircea_popescu;vendor to fix it but they said 6 to 8 weeks for a patch, and our project deadline is sooner than that. I need to interface with the legacy system because even though the DBAs have ported things over to Oracle, they're still sorting things out and it's not reliable enough for me to make any meaningful progress. Fortunately, I've thought this through and abstracted the data subsystem well enough that I can drop-in repla 726744;1403340582;mircea_popescu;ce Oracle when it's ready, so long as the database sends some decent form of XML. Once I get this data subsystem done, I can finish the business logic, which attaches to the nonfunctional demo you love so much. 726745;1403340585;mircea_popescu;sounds pretty fine to me. 726746;1403340610;mircea_popescu;now, if the manager says something stupid now, like "why the fuck are you going for xpath you hipster, just do the transforms by hand" THEN poerhaps you got problems. 726747;1403340650;mircea_popescu;but odds are he might as well go "fuck this shit, we're dropping that vendor. standby" 726748;1403340673;mircea_popescu;if he's any good you get the rest of the day off and tomorrow you can start working on a whole new stack 726749;1403340886;mircea_popescu;http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad 726750;1403340952;mircea_popescu;mike_c: news flash: bitcoind sucks. << now trace to who wrote the sht in question. 726751;1403341058;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: assets search engine? already exists << no, it doesn't, because google is doing a shit job of indexing each log page, which my experts establish is because bad titling shceme, but rather than fixing that (as proposed about two weeks ago, it's in the logs, SEARCH FOR IT :D) and hjoping google fills in the holes (which experts say it never does once they're in, no matter what happens), a complete solution is m 726752;1403341059;mircea_popescu;uch preferable, esp as it's offered itself. 726753;1403341071;mircea_popescu;the point to searching the logs is to get binding negatives more than anything else. 726754;1403341159;mircea_popescu;benkay: you gotta earn those <<< bwahaha look who's up to date on his reading 726755;1403341221;mircea_popescu;mike_c: have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory? << it doesn't know it ran out of memory, obviously. 726756;1403341285;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal:holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year? << ikr ? inflation! 726757;1403341522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00079858 = 8.7045 BTC [-] 726758;1403341654;mircea_popescu;who da fuck is firedrops in the bash, http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18 726759;1403341654;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 726760;1403341656;mircea_popescu;i lulz'd. 726761;1403341961;mircea_popescu;"We found out that by using a little program that Bitcoin uses, which is actually BitPay, we would have received US dollars," Pietro Frigerio, general manager of the dealership, says in the interview. "It's like if you come into the dealership and you want to buy a Lamborghini using gold bars, we would not accept it. So you'd go out, exchange it, and you'd come back to us. That was how it worked [with the Tesla and the 726762;1403341961;mircea_popescu;Bitcoins]." 726763;1403341963;mircea_popescu;awww. 726764;1403341994;mircea_popescu;http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/tesla-model-s-bitcoin-purchase-false/ 726765;1403341996;assbot;Tesla not bought with Bitcoin currency after all? - Autoblog 726766;1403342053;mircea_popescu;so i guess this is the end of bitpay's business model. getting redditards that hound fiat busiensses to "take bitcoin" to drive your parasitic business model only goes so far. 726767;1403342271;mircea_popescu;mike_c: diff is mean-spirited asshole. << aye! 726768;1403342367;mircea_popescu;mike_c: interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :) << that convo with thenewdeal was an eyepopper to me. 726769;1403342378;mircea_popescu;not saying he's wrong or anything, just wasn't expecting 726770;1403342476;mircea_popescu;punkman: tweaked bitbet strategy: 10 BTC for 500x 0.02 bets, net gain 3.92 BTC << course this is after you know all the results. ain't rearview mirror the best artefact, second only to the save game wand. 726771;1403342511;punkman;no, I the strategy doesn't use information it wouldn't have 726772;1403342518;mircea_popescu;moiety: how can you be wrong wanting to earn your money XD << he was talking to the "picking bets" line 726773;1403342530;mircea_popescu;punkman I, The Strategy ? 726774;1403342538;punkman;:P 726775;1403342559;mircea_popescu;what do you mean, "doesn't use information it wouldn't have" ? 726776;1403342620;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 398 @ 0.06999986 = 27.8599 BTC [+] {3} 726777;1403342639;punkman;like looking at final odds but betting at 90k weight 726778;1403342644;mircea_popescu;*: kakobrekla will burn your money for free. << looking at mpif on btcalpha this stands to scrutiny :D 726779;1403342662;punkman;but yeah of course I don't expect it to hold true for future bets 726780;1403342667;mircea_popescu;right. 726781;1403342679;mircea_popescu;so you're not looking at some classes of later info 726782;1403342681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 201 @ 0.07 = 14.07 BTC [+] {3} 726783;1403342771;punkman;although bitbet rules I think favor the No strategy, the no double negatives thing 726784;1403342783;mircea_popescu;mike_c: but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis. << not to mention independently tested etc. more's ther point, mpif wants unalligned risks, which is 90% of thy that even makes sense 726785;1403342808;punkman;the hypothesis for no was not made by backtesting 726786;1403342829;mircea_popescu;punkman if you go by wordcount nos may be ahead, but if you go by the actual measure of things, ie, total BTC bet on no vs yes, yes prolly prevails 726787;1403342840;mircea_popescu;cause as mike_c says, diff is a mean spirited asshol 726788;1403342997;punkman;anyway, I just defenestrated wordpress, maybe I can haz blog nao 726789;1403343036;mircea_popescu;defenestrated = deleted in windows ? 726790;1403343070;mircea_popescu;motherfucker. every sink in this place is on a different drip period 726791;1403343076;punkman;lol 726792;1403343088;punkman;I'm gonna work on a non-retarded strategy, wanna bankroll punkbot perhaps? 726793;1403343131;mircea_popescu;not at the onset, but if you do well and hanbot sucks maybe i fire her and hire you instead 726794;1403343288;FabianB;$traded 726795;1403343289;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR 726796;1403343318;mircea_popescu;decimation: but even then, "they" are tracking you: http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works << tracking a small flying object is no trivial task. 726797;1403343318;assbot;How it works - Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! 726798;1403343324;mircea_popescu;kinda why missiles are so useful. 726799;1403343415;punkman;mircea_popescu: no no I need hanbot as a signal :P 726800;1403343423;mircea_popescu;lol 726801;1403343528;mircea_popescu;decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not. 726802;1403343546;mircea_popescu;meanwhile, it monkeys are insulated by law from the ill effects of their bullshit "work" 726803;1403343554;mircea_popescu;you can't have it both ways. 726804;1403343616;mircea_popescu;the day three quarters of san francisco loses its homes because of writing bad code, engineers and similarly "skilled" workers can has special irs treatment. 726805;1403343745;mircea_popescu;;;rated mthreat 726806;1403343746;gribble;You rated user mthreat on Fri Jun 6 20:38:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: had coffee. 726807;1403343761;mircea_popescu;;;rate mthreat 2 Awesome search ; coffee 726808;1403343763;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 2. 726809;1403343957;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad /// the awkward part is i still have the art, it's in a custom acrylic frame i made with some nuts and bolts. It's this huge 4-foot ugly face me, collecting dust, facing the wall in my garage. 726810;1403343980;mircea_popescu;notrly that ugly. 726811;1403343985;mircea_popescu;moar like manly 726812;1403344044;mircea_popescu;as the romanian expression goes, "men need to be a shade prettier than the devil gurning." 726813;1403344084;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00079875 = 16.2546 BTC [+] {3} 726814;1403344130;ThickAsThieves;TIL gurning 726815;1403344176;mircea_popescu;let it not be said -assets is uneducational. 726816;1403344212;ThickAsThieves;it's just a funny thing about self-portraits, they hang in no one's home 726817;1403344250;ThickAsThieves;probly a metaphor in there... 726818;1403344288;mircea_popescu;frida's are a fine exception 726819;1403344419;ThickAsThieves;confucius say, a self-portrait hangs in no one's home, unless it has a unibrow 726820;1403344424;mircea_popescu;lol 726821;1403344426;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 726822;1403344467;mircea_popescu;she also had a slight moustache 726823;1403344473;ThickAsThieves;indeed 726824;1403344580;ThickAsThieves;whoa MPOE broke 80 726825;1403344586;ThickAsThieves;such milk 726826;1403344655;mircea_popescu;i thought it was over 80 for a whil 726827;1403344656;mircea_popescu;e 726828;1403344680;mircea_popescu;o you mean the other way 726829;1403344748;ThickAsThieves;yep 726830;1403344761;ThickAsThieves;lacks drama obv 726831;1403344769;ThickAsThieves;time to stir the pot 726832;1403344878;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00080022 = 11.2831 BTC [+] 726833;1403344917;ThickAsThieves;icwutudidthar 726834;1403345098;mircea_popescu;!up mckmuze 726835;1403345304;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00080082 = 2.963 BTC [+] 726836;1403345404;ThickAsThieves;;;bc,stats 726837;1403345407;gribble;Current Blocks: 306980 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1467 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15633250005.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.12373 726838;1403345571;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5824336/google-s-quantum-computer-just-flunked-its-first-big-test 726839;1403345572;assbot;Googles quantum computer just flunked its first big test | The Verge 726840;1403345580;ThickAsThieves;no quantum for you 726841;1403346097;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8532 @ 0.00080082 = 6.8326 BTC [+] 726842;1403346768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00079902 = 11.8654 BTC [-] 726843;1403347500;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00079902 = 5.3534 BTC [-] 726844;1403347927;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 55 @ 0.06800545 = 3.7403 BTC [-] {8} 726845;1403348039;ThickAsThieves;Supreme Court rules software patents that cover 'abstract ideas' are invalid 726846;1403348049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00080045 = 6.7238 BTC [+] {2} 726847;1403348085;ThickAsThieves;Alice attempted to prove that its patents were more than just an idea by pointing to the specific software steps that it had to carry out. But the court found that these steps weren't ultimately much more than "stating an abstract idea while adding the words 'apply it with a computer.'" 726848;1403348112;mircea_popescu;myeah. 726849;1403348293;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 98 @ 0.01650002 = 1.617 BTC [-] {5} 726850;1403348667;ThickAsThieves;Every bitcoin bubble peak has occurred during a new moon, the next new moon is on the June 27th, the SR USMS coin auction is on the 27th, the auction resolves the June 30th, professor bitcorn predicted Bitcoin would be $10 by mid-year. 726851;1403348694;ThickAsThieves;expect weather! 726852;1403348782;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12068 @ 0.00080194 = 9.6778 BTC [+] {2} 726853;1403349240;Namworld;Hail? Lightning? Tornadoes? Volcanic ash storm? I like those things. 726854;1403349258;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/supplemental-visual-aids-as-well-as-images-pictures-photographs-and-instagrams-y-con-queso/ 726855;1403349259;Namworld;I like my sky ablaze: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/15/article-2539941-1AAF51B500000578-416_964x612.jpg 726856;1403349790;mircea_popescu;who the fuck is "professor bitcoin" 726857;1403349954;punkman;*bitcorn 726858;1403349971;Namworld;By the name the individual selected, I would assume a pretentious moron? 726859;1403350008;punkman;;;google professor bitcorn 726860;1403350009;gribble;Professor Bitcorn Countdown to $10: ; Professor Bitcorn : Bitcoin - Reddit: ; Professor Bitcorn strikes...again : Bitcoin - Reddit: 726861;1403350062;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00080361 = 11.4113 BTC [+] 726862;1403350367;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4876 @ 0.00080361 = 3.9184 BTC [+] 726863;1403351709;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00080285 = 3.5325 BTC [-] 726864;1403352990;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00080236 = 7.7829 BTC [-] {2} 726865;1403354210;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0007991 = 7.951 BTC [-] {2} 726866;1403354354;artifexd;I received a package sent to my address but addressed to a Mr. Art I. Fexd 726867;1403354360;artifexd;My first thought was Fexd is a fucked up last name for my neighbor. I thought that because my neighbor's name is Art. 726868;1403354380;artifexd;Then... seconds later... OH! LOL! 726869;1403354381;ThickAsThieves;hehe 726870;1403354425;artifexd;And thus I report that nubbins` has indeed delivered on the #b-a shirt. 726871;1403354511;artifexd;;;rate nubbins` 1 Does, in fact, print t-shirts. And damn nice quality at that. 726872;1403354512;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nubbins` has been recorded. 726873;1403355369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00079897 = 7.5902 BTC [-] {2} 726874;1403355857;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06968 = 0.5574 BTC [+] 726875;1403356894;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16399 @ 0.00080124 = 13.1395 BTC [+] 726876;1403357405;mthreat;<+xmj> any SCUBA divers around? << yep, i do the SCUBA 726877;1403357688;nubbins`;artifexd :D 726878;1403357716;nubbins`;my wife, upon seeing the package i was mailing: "that's a fucked up last name" 726879;1403357809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06968 = 0.6968 BTC [+] 726880;1403357931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06968 = 0.9755 BTC [+] 726881;1403358175;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30660 @ 0.00080128 = 24.5672 BTC [+] {2} 726882;1403358313;Mats_cd03;rude 726883;1403358480;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00079895 = 18.8153 BTC [-] 726884;1403358968;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00080364 = 32.4671 BTC [+] {3} 726885;1403359440;moiety;happy caturday all 726886;1403359492;punkman;hey moiety 726887;1403359511;punkman;there's a cat with 4 kittens hiding in my yard 726888;1403359700;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00079823 = 3.054 BTC [-] {2} 726889;1403359753;moiety;aww punkman! i think you should bring them inside..... 726890;1403359911;moiety;are you near asciilifeform, punkman? he needs a kitten, he just hasn't fully realised it yet 726891;1403359920;xmj;mthreat: do you know if PADI Open Water Diver is any good? 726892;1403359949;mthreat;xmj: that's the one I did.. what do you mean - versus NAUI or what? 726893;1403359974;xmj;yep 726894;1403360006;xmj;I'll go with PADI by lack of knowledge and other options, are there any differences? 726895;1403360015;xmj;Estonia isn't -as- known for SCUBA diving yet :) 726896;1403360027;mthreat;ya.. I think either one is fine, but I've had no problem with PADI 726897;1403360049;mthreat;i'm not sure about differences, since I haven't done a NAUI class 726898;1403360185;xmj;cool 726899;1403360188;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00080395 = 1.0451 BTC [+] {2} 726900;1403360477;nubbins`;i did an introductory PADI course 726901;1403360478;nubbins`;fun stuff 726902;1403360493;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06986999 = 0.6987 BTC [+] {2} 726903;1403361225;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8645 @ 0.00079952 = 6.9119 BTC [-] 726904;1403361835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5724 @ 0.00079952 = 4.5765 BTC [-] 726905;1403363601;decimation;mircea_popescu: "the day three quarters of san francisco loses its homes because of writing bad code, engineers and similarly "skilled" workers can has special irs treatment." << that's a really good point. bring back the Hammurabic code for engineers, programmers, bankers, etc. 726906;1403364130;decimation;although, I don't recall a lawsuit against realtors who "sold" homes to people who couldn't afford them 726907;1403364458;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11017 @ 0.00080257 = 8.8419 BTC [+] {2} 726908;1403364488;mircea_popescu;!up Pucilowski 726909;1403364621;decimation;apparently Russia was listening to our conversation about native electronics the other day: http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 726910;1403364622;assbot;ITAR-TASS: Economy - Russia wants to replace US computer chips with local processors 726911;1403364658;mircea_popescu;lol wants. question is, can it. 726912;1403364763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00080471 = 0.684 BTC [+] 726913;1403364835;decimation;apparently there is "progress" in the winklevoss etf http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoin-etf-inching-closer-to-reality-cm358963 726914;1403364835;assbot;Bitcoin ETF Inching Closer To Reality - NASDAQ.com 726915;1403364860;decimation;I'm not sure if the sec filing has been linked here http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514190365/d721187ds1a.htm 726916;1403364881;mircea_popescu;btw, did the derpage foundation have any comment as to ubuntu dropping bitcoin from 14.04? 726917;1403364887;mircea_popescu;or is that not the sort of thing they do. 726918;1403365233;decimation;" Using an exponential moving average and volume weighting of transaction data, Winkdex is derived from the transaction prices on electronic market places where exchange participants may first use fiat currency to trade, buy and sell bitcoins based on bid-ask trading (?Bitcoin Exchange?). " 726919;1403365293;mthreat;Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/ 726920;1403365294;assbot;#bitcoin-assets search 726921;1403365332;mircea_popescu;mthreat lettuce see. 726922;1403365355;mircea_popescu;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom 726923;1403365355;assbot;urmom 726924;1403365377;decimation;that's really fast 726925;1403365407;mircea_popescu;mthreat you telling me under pain of per-jury that there's a page and a half of instances ands that's all ? 726926;1403365426;mircea_popescu;also how are they sorted ? 726927;1403365440;decimation;yeah, 'sort by date' would be useful 726928;1403365453;mthreat;right now they are ranked by TF*IDF (text relevance, based on term matches) 726929;1403365464;mthreat;like google, without the pagerank 726930;1403365480;mircea_popescu;add history as an optional i say 726931;1403365482;mthreat;ok, sort by date is easy 726932;1403365487;mircea_popescu;often we remember one exact word, and a timerange 726933;1403365502;mthreat;history? 726934;1403365669;decimation;well, even in this state it's 100x better than google 726935;1403365695;punkman;mthreat, nice, what's it using behind the scenes? 726936;1403365712;mthreat;searchify.com hosted search 726937;1403365713;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/wwAvQZy9 << tha's my list 726938;1403365713;assbot;Sep 11 21:36:04 no fambly just urmom. Sep 11 23:49:19 ; Carl Sagan Collection - CSI: ; Carl Sagan and the Cosmos Legacy | National Geographic Channel: ; SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered ...: ; The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: The word tip cleanly refers to a bribe of sorts... To Insure Prompt service. << nah, i disagree. 727104;1403369081;mircea_popescu;tips are actually constructive. 727105;1403369090;BingoBoingo;Bribes are constructive too 727106;1403369094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00080259 = 9.8317 BTC [+] 727107;1403369097;BingoBoingo;Useful 727108;1403369098;nubbins`;bribes are destructive 727109;1403369102;Cosmos;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/lets-have-a-little-fun-then-shall-we.69076/ = yep, i just might 727110;1403369102;assbot;Let's have a little fun then, shall we. | Bitcointa.lk 727111;1403369106;mircea_popescu;not really. bribes are the final example of the disaster of commons 727112;1403369117;mircea_popescu;the prototype of the bribe is the cut the fence gives to the thief. 727113;1403369118;Cosmos;ok its a donation, not a bribe 727114;1403369127;Cosmos;you donate because I will change the world for good 727115;1403369131;mircea_popescu;whereas tips fall squarely in the charity thing 727116;1403369135;nubbins`;you tip someone, you'll get above-average service. you bribe someone, you'll get standard rather than sub-par 727117;1403369150;Cosmos;I do not think I personally deserve much (ego) therefore I am near-incorruptible 727118;1403369162;mircea_popescu; ;;echo not as bad as $randnick << shit i meant google not gribble. 727119;1403369169;nubbins`;:D 727120;1403369171;nubbins`;was gonna say 727121;1403369176;Cosmos;Given power, I will try my best to give as many deserving people as possible, better opportunities for improving their lives 727122;1403369186;mircea_popescu;Cosmos do you spend a lot of time on reddit? 727123;1403369190;nubbins`;GIVEN POWER 727124;1403369192;Cosmos;Not yet lol 727125;1403369197;mircea_popescu;nubbins` ya srsly. 727126;1403369200;Cosmos;See, weak people are afraid of power 727127;1403369201;nubbins`;create-your-own-protip 727128;1403369215;Cosmos;Because they know too well, it would corrupt them even more, very quickly 727129;1403369220;mircea_popescu;power is taken, not given, little grashopper. and your humble nonsense makes you both the most dangerous and the least likely to succeed character. 727130;1403369225;nubbins`;^ 727131;1403369230;Cosmos;The strong don't fear power, those with true integrity, like Buddha, and Gandhi 727132;1403369246;nubbins`;i think we have an Achiever 727133;1403369248;mircea_popescu;the two have nothing in common except for western ignorance. 727134;1403369274;mircea_popescu;also, your culture is lacking. do you know ghandi used to sleep with his underage niece ? 727135;1403369274;Cosmos;ahh you use 'Western'! my gf wants to slap me everytime i use that word, she identifies with it too much 727136;1403369286;Cosmos;That's fine 727137;1403369295;Cosmos;As long as she was mature for her age & was consenting 727138;1403369295;mircea_popescu;drove people up the wall at the time. 727139;1403369300;mircea_popescu;she was not, either. 727140;1403369303;mircea_popescu;and they were naked. 727141;1403369307;Cosmos;Oh really 727142;1403369311;mircea_popescu;yes really. 727143;1403369312;Cosmos;I thought they'd be dressed 727144;1403369320;mircea_popescu;ghandi didn't like to do laundry 727145;1403369325;mircea_popescu;so he mostly didn't dress. 727146;1403369326;nubbins`;who does?! 727147;1403369335;Cosmos;Btw almost everytime I talk, I'm half-trolling, but I always mean well 727148;1403369351;nubbins`;see, that'd be a good cover story for dov charney, if it weren't for the fact that he was strolling around a clothing factory naked ;( 727149;1403369356;Cosmos;I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive 727150;1403369357;mircea_popescu;yes i get it, you were kidding after the fact, like that xfg or w/e his name was. 727151;1403369361;mircea_popescu;the avatars of youth. 727152;1403369421;nubbins`;if you're so brilliant, why are you spending your time writing website summaries and bumming for spare change? 727153;1403369422;BingoBoingo;%ticker 727154;1403369424;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 727155;1403369430;Cosmos;I'm acutely aware of how appearing as a newbie & suddenly talking big about myself & donations & work etc makes me look at first glance, which is why I'm playing it up w/ it massively, for mutual entertainment 727156;1403369439;*;nubbins` facepalms 727157;1403369441;mircea_popescu;oic. 727158;1403369451;mircea_popescu;this is like Game taken meta. 727159;1403369455;nubbins`;mmhmm 727160;1403369461;nubbins`;did anyone win the chess tourney after? 727161;1403369468;mircea_popescu;nubbins` shut up and drool out of your hole biatch :D 727162;1403369486;nubbins`;too cool to drool 727163;1403369491;mircea_popescu;omfg 727164;1403369502;mircea_popescu;that line is just too good. consider it stoled. 727165;1403369515;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1NPWF36.txt ) 727166;1403369515;BingoBoingo;!b 4 727167;1403369516;nubbins`;mp's first tattoo 727168;1403369533;mircea_popescu;no, but ima lay it on all the frigid uruguayan chix 727169;1403369548;Cosmos;It's the psychology of 'return the favor' - when wanting something, ask/suggest being given a minute fraction of it, to make the other party comfortable about your humility and more likely to actually give the whole amount you ulteriorly desired in the first place 727170;1403369552;nubbins`;i don't think it rhymes in spanish ;( 727171;1403369556;mircea_popescu;it's... "cold" here, you see. 727172;1403369561;nubbins`;fun fact, peruvians call their tongue "castellano" as well 727173;1403369563;mircea_popescu;nubbins` so lettem learn english 727174;1403369576;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Fell apart. If attempted would require something roughly resembling a schedule 727175;1403369583;mircea_popescu;nubbins` yeah apparently it's all of the west of south america + central 727176;1403369608;mircea_popescu;Cosmos does it work ? 727177;1403369615;Cosmos;is there any cryptorelated IRC channel 727178;1403369621;Cosmos;w/ more activity & wit than this here 727179;1403369632;Cosmos;I have been -looking- for this for a while 727180;1403369635;mircea_popescu;prolly not with more activity, but you could go ask in bitcoin-dev 727181;1403369644;nubbins`;heh 727182;1403369651;Cosmos;#bitcoin itself is ghost town, hundreds too scared to talk/troll 727183;1403369656;mircea_popescu;nubbins` what, im taking the mutual entertainment bit seriously. 727184;1403369668;Cosmos;it does work, mircea 727185;1403369675;Cosmos;I've had 2 ppl send me more than I suggested 727186;1403369676;nubbins`;no kidding :D 727187;1403369686;Cosmos;b/c I had been so humble 727188;1403369691;nubbins`;dude, you'll never believe what happened yesterday 727189;1403369701;nubbins`;i asked some guy for five bucks and he sucked my cock instead 727190;1403369704;mircea_popescu;Cosmos do they have confirmation bias where you go to school ? 727191;1403369716;moiety;the crypto ones are usually pretty dead and you won't find more wit than here 727192;1403369723;Cosmos;lol you think I'm under 21 727193;1403369730;Cosmos;the school implication 727194;1403369735;mircea_popescu;nubbins` i asked some chick for milanesa con queso and she fucked me instead. 727195;1403369739;nubbins`;we easily forget that 25 is the new 15 727196;1403369745;mircea_popescu;and all i wanted was a damned cheese steak 727197;1403369750;mircea_popescu;but she liked my humble manner 727198;1403369755;mthreat;damn you passed on the milanesa 727199;1403369764;mircea_popescu;mthreat nah, i buy them at the butcher's. 727200;1403369766;nubbins`;coño con queso 727201;1403369772;Cosmos;good thing @ 1986 i'm quite beyond both, actually sad thing in fact, years never return ;p 727202;1403369772;mthreat;ew 727203;1403369779;nubbins`;:D 727204;1403369786;mircea_popescu;mthreat it could be danish... 727205;1403369794;mircea_popescu;give it a wild, tangy aftertaste 727206;1403369800;nubbins`;Cosmos: so you're 28 years old and writing website summaries for tips? :( 727207;1403369802;mthreat;sin gas, por favor 727208;1403369803;nubbins`;jesus 727209;1403369816;Cosmos;help me then 727210;1403369817;nubbins`;agua con gaz is fuckin gross 727211;1403369822;moiety;it's all about presentation ;P 727212;1403369825;mircea_popescu;cono sin gas y queso 727213;1403369840;mircea_popescu;Cosmos you ever saw "a man for all seasons" ? 727214;1403369842;Cosmos;and no, I'm a trader 727215;1403369849;Cosmos;@mircea no 727216;1403369849;nubbins`;my sides 727217;1403369858;BingoBoingo;Cosmos: Are you familiar with Altcoin? 727218;1403369864;Cosmos;The forum crap I just did for like 727219;1403369872;BingoBoingo;%diff 727220;1403369874;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 442680.02 in 281 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.12 727221;1403369876;mircea_popescu;nubbins` you know the quote i had in mind ? 727222;1403369877;Cosmos;to see how much fame i'd get 727223;1403369877;nubbins`;FOR LIKE A COOL JOKE LELEL 727224;1403369887;nubbins`;mp haven't seen it :( 727225;1403369896;Cosmos;i only got 220 total views in 2 threads 727226;1403369911;Cosmos;so its been barely helpful to anyone 727227;1403369913;nubbins`;Cosmos, you sound really lame :( 727228;1403369920;Cosmos;oh well 727229;1403369920;nubbins`;sorry for your loss 727230;1403369929;Cosmos;gotta video it up on youtube if you rly want views 727231;1403369936;Cosmos;now THAT would take my time 727232;1403369942;nubbins`;maybe it's not how much time you spend 727233;1403369944;Cosmos;..away from profitable daytrading 727234;1403369944;ThickAsThieves;nubbins` do you have any comments on Titan Bitcoin? 727235;1403369960;nubbins`;tat, sorry, got your message. gold ones look cool but i don't really keep up with them 727236;1403369970;ThickAsThieves;word, i'ma do a review 727237;1403369970;nubbins`;i know michail1 and maybe Blazedout419 are into them 727238;1403369980;Cosmos;@boingo Let me answer your query with this : 727239;1403369981;Cosmos;~ E N C Y C L O P E D I C A L T C O I N S D A T A B A S E ~ * = Virtual CryptoCurrencies marked w/ "*" symbol are not currently listed on Cryptsy/MintPal's BTC-/LTC-Denominated Markets at the moment, & are thus pending larger-scale community adoption. ꜝ = This symbol denotes that the name or acronym entered for the CryptoCurrency in question is merely a personally-preferred colloquial term, and not the actual ter 727240;1403369990;Cosmos;lol text max reached 727241;1403370010;Cosmos;let's try this part 727242;1403370011;Cosmos;+[BET] BetaCoin T0 +[ANC] AnonCoin T4 +[BUK] CryptoBuck T2 +[CAP] BottleCap T1 +[CRC] CraftCoin T1 +[CLR] CopperLark T1 +[CGB] Cryptogenicꜝ T3 +[CMC] CosmoCoinꜝ T1 +[COMM] CommunityCoin T° +[UNB] UnbreakableCoin T1 +[LGD] LegendaryCoin T1 +[NAUT] NautilusCoin T2 +[EMC2] Einsteinium T° +[FLT] FlutterCoin T0 +[EXE] EXECoin T1 +[DEM] e-Mark T0 +[FST] FastCoin T0 +[EZC] EZCoin T0 +[IXC] IXCoin T2 +[NBL] Nibble T1 +[WC] Whit 727243;1403370018;nubbins`;fuck off 727244;1403370022;Cosmos;lol 727245;1403370025;Cosmos;sry 727246;1403370027;mircea_popescu;nubbins` http://pastebin.com/dyVep8eq 727247;1403370027;assbot;RICH (Voice cracking) You look at me as though I were an enemy! MORE (Pu - Pastebin.com 727248;1403370027;ThickAsThieves;where am i? 727249;1403370036;mircea_popescu;and after thatthey go into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk 727250;1403370036;assbot;A Man for All Seasons - The Devil Speech - YouTube 727251;1403370062;nubbins`;hmm, i'm gonna add this to my list 727252;1403370099;mircea_popescu;not a bad move. 727253;1403370110;mircea_popescu;Cosmos this is like the 3rd thing you completely missed :) 727254;1403370121;mircea_popescu;he was asking you about altcoin, not about all that other crap. 727255;1403370137;Cosmos;the alt called altcoin itself? 727256;1403370141;Cosmos;yea its in my list 727257;1403370143;mircea_popescu;yea 727258;1403370152;Cosmos;lol, its quite meta-sounding 727259;1403370153;mircea_popescu;nubbins` http://projectplatypus.pbworks.com/w/page/19140696/A%20Man%20for%20All%20Seasons << actually there's script iyc 727260;1403370154;assbot;projectplatypus / A Man for All Seasons 727261;1403370156;Cosmos;didnt read about it 727262;1403370171;Cosmos;anyway, so you're claiming to be MPex CEO heh 727263;1403370180;Cosmos;I knew I'd seen that name somwhere else b4.. 727264;1403370193;*;nubbins` finds a comfortable chair 727265;1403370219;Cosmos;i mean, that you in this IRC, is the actual Mircea, thats super-googleable personality, you know 727266;1403370228;mircea_popescu;Cosmos im not claiming. im actually authed. 727267;1403370228;Cosmos;I'm inclined to believe so 727268;1403370238;mircea_popescu;;;ident mircea_popescu 727269;1403370238;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 727270;1403370250;Cosmos;Nice 727271;1403370283;Cosmos;Now you just proved you have a nontrivial amount of ego 727272;1403370286;moiety;You really should be getting yourself authed too 727273;1403370293;BingoBoingo;Cosmos: The best altcoin is Altcoin (SHA-256 and not the heretic OMGWTFBBQHASH!!!) 727274;1403370297;Cosmos;That means you couldn't be given tons of power 727275;1403370297;nubbins`;"just" proved :D 727276;1403370298;mircea_popescu;nontrivial amt of ego ? 727277;1403370304;mircea_popescu;bitch please. i made that shit work. 727278;1403370305;Cosmos;Just teasing ya 727279;1403370308;mircea_popescu;i am the master of the ego. 727280;1403370334;mircea_popescu;and yeah, lol, i couldn't be GIVEN tons of power. 727281;1403370337;mircea_popescu;not anymore anyway. 727282;1403370338;Cosmos;I have no clue about technical things 727283;1403370342;BingoBoingo;http://therealaltcoin.org/ 727284;1403370342;assbot;The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again. 727285;1403370349;Cosmos;I'm a finance & philosophy type 727286;1403370354;mircea_popescu;Cosmos so what did you study then ? 727287;1403370364;nubbins`;german film 727288;1403370365;Cosmos;I quit school after failing biology 727289;1403370373;Cosmos;got into porn w/ nubbins' mom 727290;1403370373;mircea_popescu;in philosophy ? 727291;1403370377;Cosmos;& then, started trading 727292;1403370378;gribble;Error: "then," is not a valid command. 727293;1403370383;mircea_popescu;lol 727294;1403370389;assbot;Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YASEQP.txt ) 727295;1403370389;mircea_popescu;!b 8 727296;1403370390;Cosmos;<3 727297;1403370401;mircea_popescu;or w/e, mod can sort it out, whole convo's a bashfest 727298;1403370401;nubbins`;winning hearts & minds 727299;1403370413;Cosmos;Indeed, the 4chan way 727300;1403370445;mircea_popescu;Cosmos what exactly did you fail in biology ? 727301;1403370447;nubbins`;isn't it funny how everyone on irc is a "trader" and they all make money 727302;1403370449;nubbins`;what a coincidence 727303;1403370479;Cosmos;I had a fundamental passion for biotech, anatomy, biophysics, human enhancement 727304;1403370480;mircea_popescu;nubbins` im making the losses to cover for all of em 727305;1403370485;Cosmos;and still do of course 727306;1403370485;mircea_popescu;it's only fair, as i can afford it. 727307;1403370488;nubbins`;:D 727308;1403370494;nubbins`;a true hero 727309;1403370498;mircea_popescu;Cosmos but specifically, what'd you fail ? 727310;1403370501;Cosmos;And so, I mistakenly believed that my passion, which was, 'on paper' kinda 727311;1403370512;Cosmos;would automatically translate, to technical facility 727312;1403370514;mircea_popescu;like, "and then they asked me to describe the atp cycle and fuck i had no idea" 727313;1403370515;Cosmos;with lab work, etc 727314;1403370519;Cosmos;and it wasn't the case at all 727315;1403370532;Cosmos;I found out, I can't stand all this tedious experimenting & reporting & lab work man 727316;1403370535;nubbins`;i think he failed at applying to post-secondary 727317;1403370535;mircea_popescu;so you're intellectually lazy and prefer to dream shit up rather than do anything. 727318;1403370538;Cosmos;I'm supposed to be the boss 727319;1403370544;Cosmos;leading the scientist team 727320;1403370551;Cosmos;so I went into trading 727321;1403370560;mircea_popescu;that's the only reasonable path. 727322;1403370562;nubbins`;SO I WENT INTO TRADING 727323;1403370565;Cosmos;to be able, like Elon Musk the Great, to fund all these things 727324;1403370570;mircea_popescu;right. 727325;1403370571;moiety;so, you found your passion tedious? 727326;1403370580;nubbins`;moiety :D 727327;1403370584;Cosmos;yea nubbins, I've lost 13k in last 8 years learning the hard way, how to trade 727328;1403370594;mircea_popescu;maybe learning isn't the right word. 727329;1403370595;punkman;who has time for passion anyway, gotta watch tv 727330;1403370597;Apocalyptic;no, he just found out shit actually requires work 727331;1403370604;*;asciilifeform apprenticed to biologist in school. decided he doesn't like doing identical experiment 1,000 times. 727332;1403370619;mircea_popescu;moiety should i ask you how oft were you the unwitting girlfriend of such greatness or better hold my peace ? 727333;1403370628;*;nubbins` did three years of comp eng. decided he didn't like oscilloscopes :( 727334;1403370632;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you're lucky you weren't into art. 727335;1403370656;Cosmos;rofl 727336;1403370656;Cosmos;tv 727337;1403370671;Cosmos;now you rly talk of the epitome of intellectual laze 727338;1403370692;moiety;sorry, i don't follow mircea_popescu 727339;1403370698;nubbins`;heard someone pronounce it "eppa-tome" recently 727340;1403370698;asciilifeform;;;google datskovskiy telomerase 727341;1403370699;gribble;Induction of Telomerase Activity During Development of Human ...: 727342;1403370701;Cosmos;tv represents the Western garbage, the consumerism, the ads, the complacency, the mainstream conformism 727343;1403370708;asciilifeform;^ i'm but a footnote. 727344;1403370718;mircea_popescu;moiety guy "falls in love", tells girl, she believes him, two years later he grows tired of the tediousness of it. 727345;1403370740;mircea_popescu;heartbreak results, in the lucky circumstances where the girl didn't go invest 9 months into the theory. 727346;1403370747;Cosmos;tv is the champion of average, excused mediocrity, the scourge of original thought & achievement 727347;1403370761;mircea_popescu;Cosmos is this a flatfile somehwere you're quoting ? 727348;1403370772;Cosmos;no thats the most awesome thing 727349;1403370791;Cosmos;I have a billion 'flatfile' notes as you say, recorded in HDD, but this I just pulled out of my brain 727350;1403370801;punkman;amazing markov 727351;1403370801;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 727352;1403370801;mircea_popescu;so you've slowly become one ?! 727353;1403370803;Cosmos;surprise myself sometimes (remember I am humble) 727354;1403370817;mircea_popescu;punkman did you write this and are nao trolling me ? 727355;1403370831;punkman;shhh don't ruin it 727356;1403370837;Cosmos;I find it amazing now that I think about it 727357;1403370837;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 727358;1403370842;Cosmos;that a CEO 727359;1403370850;Cosmos;w/ many projects & tons of wealth 727360;1403370854;mircea_popescu;i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/ 727361;1403370855;Cosmos;+ a well-known cryptoblog 727362;1403370859;Cosmos;is here in IRC 727363;1403370862;Cosmos;gracing us w/ his wisdom 727364;1403370866;mircea_popescu;Cosmos innit. 727365;1403370868;nubbins`;leave it 727366;1403370870;mircea_popescu;lol assbot 727367;1403370881;nubbins`;;;echo tyvm assbot 727368;1403370882;gribble;tyvm assbot 727369;1403370896;BingoBoingo;!up assbot 727370;1403370900;BingoBoingo;!up Cosmos 727371;1403370905;mircea_popescu;well it was fun while it lasted. 727372;1403370909;mircea_popescu;;;echo !up bingoboingo 727373;1403370909;gribble;!up bingoboingo 727374;1403370928;assbot;Last 658 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17KTRM5.txt ) 727375;1403370928;BingoBoingo;!b 658 727376;1403370930;moiety;ahh, never apparently. At the end, I was told there wasn't the initial "falling in love"... i was a convenient wallet/housekeeper/etc mircea_popescu 727377;1403370947;Cosmos;[13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time.. 727378;1403370951;mircea_popescu;i've never loved baba gnoush as much as i do here. i'm up for it brakfast lunch and dinner, it's crazy. these folkjs eat nothing but meat. 727379;1403370955;*;moiety awaits the deserved "mug" forehead tattoo 727380;1403370974;mircea_popescu;moiety i think they just do phone number footsole tattoos now 727381;1403370988;mircea_popescu;so interested bystanders can just get the number 727382;1403371000;Cosmos;So I should like, make an acct on btc-assets to be perma-voiced here or just seduce mircea or what 727383;1403371012;mircea_popescu;you should seduce nubbins` 727384;1403371020;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1F37AQ0.txt ) 727385;1403371020;BingoBoingo;!b 2 727386;1403371031;Cosmos;that's a mathematical impossibility, i'm afraid 727387;1403371057;nubbins`;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8 727388;1403371058;assbot;Hopes deleted. - YouTube 727389;1403371073;Cosmos;even gribb hates me it appears 727390;1403371111;BingoBoingo;;;echo !down Cosmos 727391;1403371111;gribble;!down Cosmos 727392;1403371147;Cosmos;does that work 727393;1403371151;BingoBoingo;So... It's looking like Argentina might start that nuclear program 727394;1403371158;BingoBoingo;!down Cosmos 727395;1403371167;BingoBoingo;!up Cosmos yes 727396;1403371171;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo they lost ?! 727397;1403371182;moiety;Cosmos: indeed it does. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets heres a step by step. 727398;1403371182;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 727399;1403371182;Cosmos;asked cuz it didnt the first time 727400;1403371187;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Still tied 60 minutes in 727401;1403371200;BingoBoingo;!down Cosmos 727402;1403371225;mircea_popescu;ok so this just in 727403;1403371242;mircea_popescu;corrientes, which is a major avenue, is COVERED in swat vans, fire trucks, miles of it from the center. 727404;1403371247;mircea_popescu;nobody is there. 727405;1403371254;mircea_popescu;nobody is in the shops, just the tvs going 727406;1403371263;mircea_popescu;i think these are countermeasures in case they lose ? 727407;1403371267;nubbins`;hahah 727408;1403371270;nubbins`;welcome to s.a. 727409;1403371270;BingoBoingo;Probably 727410;1403371276;BingoBoingo;!up Cosmos 727411;1403371305;moiety;cosmos, you may note the difference in commands.. the first included an echo 727412;1403371320;Cosmos;Maybe I won't register after all, my great hopes for this chan getting non-negligibly crushed the minute I saw traditional sports talk 727413;1403371355;mircea_popescu;people that follow sports can't be given a ton of power either ? 727414;1403371359;BingoBoingo;;;google site:thedrinkingrecord.com baseball 727415;1403371360;gribble;Baseball | Bingo Blog: ; An Overview of Betable Sports Part 1: Baseball | Bingo Blog: ; Real Baseball and "Sportsmanship" | Bingo Blog: 727416;1403371367;moiety;excuse us while we don't weep for the loss of your great hopes 727417;1403371382;Cosmos;ppl will see the 'echo' note, and immediate echo by gribble or whoever, so... the troll from it won't work..? dunno what other reason they'd echo for lol 727418;1403371385;mircea_popescu;lol rawr 727419;1403371386;*;moiety hasn't even linked a manul yet 727420;1403371407;BingoBoingo;;;echo ;;google WTF? 727421;1403371407;gribble;;;google WTF? 727422;1403371426;BingoBoingo;OMG Gribble can't command itself! 727423;1403371466;Cosmos;I wonder if mod6 is omega6 (i know him( 727424;1403371478;BingoBoingo;;;8ball 727425;1403371478;gribble;No chance. 727426;1403371485;Cosmos;anyway, pleased to have met you guys 727427;1403371492;Cosmos;I know it's not reciprocal 727428;1403371500;Cosmos;with good reason hee hee 727429;1403371504;moiety;;;google define echo 727430;1403371505;gribble;Echo | Define Echo at Dictionary.com: ; Echo - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; Echo - definition of Echo by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: 727431;1403371526;mircea_popescu;echo is the girl that loved narcis 727432;1403371556;Cosmos;but why would bingo use the command if it doesnt do anything other than make gribble speak 727433;1403371560;moiety;Cosmos: like i said, it's all about presentation 727434;1403371571;Cosmos;it won't fool anyone lol 727435;1403371587;mircea_popescu;like all the big cats, bb likes to play 727436;1403371591;BingoBoingo;Cosmos: Who said I do things for reasons 727437;1403371601;Cosmos;makes sense 727438;1403371621;Cosmos;is this community altcoin haters or lovers 727439;1403371629;Cosmos;like, there's this huge, funny rivalry 727440;1403371633;BingoBoingo;Altcoin lovers, altcoin haters 727441;1403371639;Cosmos;2 widely-chasm'd camps, hating each other 727442;1403371679;Cosmos;it's heresy to talk of BTC in cryptocointalk, for instance. heresy to spend more than a couple words about alts, (they're all 'shtcoins') in bitcointalk, for instance 727443;1403371681;moiety;does any original like it's rip-offs? 727444;1403371695;xmj;benkay: around? 727445;1403371737;BingoBoingo;Argentin and Iran still tied. 727446;1403371768;Cosmos;yea they're just rip-offs cept for those that don't use btc tech at all..but, some still have good, relevant, unique applications, and quite a few have presented astronomical % gain opportunities, just cashout to BTC b4 the dump and keep multiplying it....... 727447;1403371880;mircea_popescu; [13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time.. << some people are modest. 727448;1403371905;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: re: 'haxxing' article - if you want something other than lamers for the butterfly collection, cut apart those dead mobos & disks, rather than read server logs 727449;1403371922;mircea_popescu;i don't have a shop here 727450;1403371927;mircea_popescu;but they're in cold storage. 727451;1403371948;moiety;and yet still would not exist had there been no preceeding bitcoin Cosmos 727452;1403371990;mircea_popescu;maybe im the one that least hates alts 727453;1403371995;Cosmos;@mircea No, that was after bingo muted me randomly, so I copied the stuff I'd pasted afterwards, that didnt appear here, this whole statement of mine was in reference to YOU mircea not me obviously lol 727454;1403372024;*;asciilifeform doesn't hate alts but it bored of folks who s/bitcoin/foocoin 727455;1403372030;asciilifeform;*is 727456;1403372051;BingoBoingo;!down Cosmos 727457;1403372059;mircea_popescu;Cosmos i am aware. 727458;1403372062;BingoBoingo;!up Cosmos 727459;1403372064;Cosmos;lol this guy, like clockwork 727460;1403372087;Cosmos;hm, sry for ruining your joke lol mircea 727461;1403372095;Cosmos;your irony* 727462;1403372112;BingoBoingo;How long is one of these football games anyway? 727463;1403372127;Cosmos;im an IRC newb, it's /msg person's name to PM ppl right..? 727464;1403372155;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo 90 mins, then they start shooting straight at the goalposts 727465;1403372178;BingoBoingo;Well it is still tied at 77 minutes in 727466;1403372197;mircea_popescu;actually nm that. i think ties are allowed in this game. 727467;1403372216;BingoBoingo;Yeah, there have been so many ties 727468;1403372254;moiety;i need to run out for prarcetamol, back in 5 727469;1403372266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.0687 = 6.87 BTC [+] 727470;1403372267;moiety;or paracetamol, whicever helps with pain 727471;1403372297;asciilifeform;decimation: russia/native cpu << see earlier 'elbrus.' wake me up when they cough up own os, rather than cribbing. 727472;1403372325;mircea_popescu;the purring one for you, prrolly 727473;1403372371;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform ianal, but it'd seem cribbing is better. rather than writing from scratch and inventing a new mistakes-space, they just take out some mistakes of a well documenterd space 727474;1403372381;asciilifeform;lol 727475;1403372388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00080151 = 17.4729 BTC [-] {3} 727476;1403372402;asciilifeform;'take out mistakes' >> ssl 727477;1403372424;asciilifeform;and some mistakes (the need for a compiler) aren't so easy to take out. 727478;1403372439;mircea_popescu;this is true. 727479;1403372468;asciilifeform;see: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/498 727480;1403372469;assbot;Embedded in Academia : Software Bugs and Scientific Progress 727481;1403372556;BingoBoingo;%ticker 727482;1403372557;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 727483;1403372602;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: I guess you'll get to find out what the swat vans are for soon 727484;1403372617;mircea_popescu;iran scored ? 727485;1403372660;BingoBoingo;Isn't a tie as bad as losing? 727486;1403372728;mircea_popescu;nope 727487;1403372740;BingoBoingo;Ah 727488;1403372748;BingoBoingo;Well, still no score 727489;1403372756;mircea_popescu;their scoring is byzantine, but! i think they getrematches and whatnot 727490;1403372773;*;asciilifeform started crackpot career by reading at&t unix as described in 'lions book' and setting out to 'take out mistakes' - then noticed that result is... empty space 727491;1403372783;mircea_popescu;lol 727492;1403372795;Cosmos;worst thing is as soon as this Cup fest is over 727493;1403372809;BingoBoingo;Handegg Season 727494;1403372820;Cosmos;we'll be beset w/ another mainstreamer flood, from Jul 4th Independence 727495;1403372948;mircea_popescu;score. 727496;1403372950;mircea_popescu;i can tell 727497;1403372953;mthreat;haha 727498;1403372956;mthreat;neighbors 727499;1403372958;mircea_popescu;BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER SPEAK IN MY FUCKING ROOM 727500;1403372961;mthreat;damn my stream 727501;1403372965;mthreat;is lagged 727502;1403372969;mircea_popescu;lol 727503;1403372972;BingoBoingo;Yeah 727504;1403372975;mircea_popescu;get real interwebs mthreat :D 727505;1403372984;mthreat;in argentina? heh 727506;1403372991;mircea_popescu;mthreat i have it 727507;1403372999;mthreat;which provider 727508;1403373004;mircea_popescu;all of them. 727509;1403373028;mthreat;all? 727510;1403373034;mircea_popescu;(not even kidding, i got the top package of everyone, loadbalancing it) 727511;1403373040;mthreat;fucking A 727512;1403373072;mircea_popescu;they don't go out atthe same time, either. 727513;1403373079;assbot;Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3DHHE46.txt ) 727514;1403373079;BingoBoingo;!b 9 727515;1403373105;mthreat;do you need that much bandwidth, or more for reliability? 727516;1403373109;Cosmos;do you like CFD's 727517;1403373119;mircea_popescu;reliability. but bw is a nice throw-in 727518;1403373126;asciilifeform;re: 'take out mistakes': obligatory: http://pastebin.com/rG1TxJt2 727519;1403373127;assbot;The Spittoon - Pastebin.com 727520;1403373128;mircea_popescu;plus, girls like the half hour movie torrent time 727521;1403373259;Cosmos;I brought entertainment & then I faded down to a speck of nothing 727522;1403373288;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ESAJD1.txt ) 727523;1403373288;BingoBoingo;!b 1 727524;1403373298;BingoBoingo;!down Cosmos 727525;1403373303;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0687 = 0.8244 BTC [+] 727526;1403373486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00080201 = 7.6993 BTC [+] 727527;1403374096;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00079949 = 3.6777 BTC [-] {2} 727528;1403374110;moiety;/me got distracted by some flowers in need of tlc 727529;1403374115;moiety;well that worked 727530;1403374126;moiety;i see the loss of BB was too much for cosmos 727531;1403374517;mircea_popescu;well maybe he gets through his reading 727532;1403374881;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/ 727533;1403374899;moiety;not sure i share your optimism mircea_popescu 727534;1403375072;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00080173 = 9.8613 BTC [+] 727535;1403375865;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00079946 = 8.8444 BTC [-] {2} 727536;1403375926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 887 @ 0.00079812 = 0.7079 BTC [-] 727537;1403376109;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00079761 = 3.9083 BTC [-] 727538;1403376163;mircea_popescu;!up grahvity 727539;1403376255;mthreat;googlebot's already crawling search.ba 727540;1403376342;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo 727541;1403376342;assbot;Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube 727542;1403376475;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00079684 = 2.4702 BTC [-] 727543;1403376981;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/a-story-of-manscarves/ 727544;1403377085;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25136 @ 0.00080029 = 20.1161 BTC [+] {3} 727545;1403377524;mircea_popescu;re http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725987 (the entire plain words) conundrum, bitcoinpete got me the best in for the best example known to man. http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/#comment-791 727546;1403377525;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 727547;1403377527;assbot;Tell The Grand Inquisitor There’s No Fucking Bitcoin Taint. | When Bitcoin Met Pete 727548;1403377678;mircea_popescu;and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725970 is like cosmos' earlier adventure in detail. 727549;1403377678;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 727550;1403377698;mircea_popescu;epic fucking quote that. 727551;1403377939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00080396 = 11.376 BTC [+] 727552;1403378731;moiety;"can guess faster than they can learn" lol perfect 727553;1403378771;moiety;wb 727554;1403378826;mircea_popescu;motherfucker. power surge during write operation -> destroyed boot. 727555;1403378848;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: still no civilized power gizmos? 727556;1403378851;mircea_popescu;apparently mains unfiltered is not good here. 727557;1403378861;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform im putting a whole array in, what's to do. 727558;1403378874;punkman;;;ident 727559;1403378875;gribble;Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is not identified. 727560;1403378876;*;asciilifeform got a dual-converting ups as a gift from phriend not long ago. no more stabilizer 'bzzzzzz' 727561;1403378879;punkman;hmm? 727562;1403378887;mircea_popescu;by now i'm drastically past the threshold of doorman telling me apart "you know i've never seen so much computer equipment since i work here" 727563;1403378901;mircea_popescu;something i had hoped to avoid 727564;1403378939;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'liebert gxt2.' recommended. 727565;1403378959;mircea_popescu;aite. 727566;1403379016;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform provider sez discontinued. 727567;1403379018;asciilifeform;this kind of gizmo works by running rectifier (mains to 48v dc) at all times, connected to cell bank, and on the exit, inverter (48v dc to local mains voltage ac) likewise at all times 727568;1403379045;mircea_popescu;girl on cam "and this is my bedroom slash office" 727569;1403379048;mircea_popescu;ahem. 727570;1403379064;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'gxt3' is still sold. and of course there's a dozen or so other vendors who sell similar units. 727571;1403379321;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/titan-physical-bitcoin-review-silver/ 727572;1403379379;mircea_popescu;On and off, Ive had the urge to acquire physical Bitcoin coins to give to family and invest/collect them for myself. I have never purchased any sort of collectible coin before, nor have I ever purchased precious metals. << weird what btc does to people. 727573;1403379462;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you only have surges, never dips, ferroresonant gizmo would also work. but they're loud. 727574;1403379477;mircea_popescu;why assume. 727575;1403379548;mircea_popescu;The BitPay prompt for payment seems awkwardly designed to me, particularly in that the text version of the payment address is very tiny. << I heard this in the form of "wow, they're really trying to stop you from copying pasting it huh". no idea wtf they;'d be thinking 727576;1403379807;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you buy this or similar unit, make sure it eats 220v. these, unlike pc power supply, aren't omnivorous. 727577;1403379892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00080396 = 5.1051 BTC [+] 727578;1403379942;ThickAsThieves;yep, you read it how i felt it 727579;1403379966;ThickAsThieves;it's not my first time using bitpay either, i think the address used to be bigger 727580;1403380006;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves no i meant i actually heard someone else complain 727581;1403380013;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00080396 = 10.4113 BTC [+] 727582;1403380038;ThickAsThieves;ah 727583;1403380039;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/The_new_woman--wash_day.png << genderbendin' in 1910 727584;1403380043;mircea_popescu;by underwood&underwood 727585;1403380047;ThickAsThieves;add me to the list then 727586;1403380737;mircea_popescu;btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? 727587;1403381355;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0670089 = 0.7371 BTC [-] {3} 727588;1403381599;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00080396 = 8.2004 BTC [+] {2} 727589;1403381659;benkay; decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not. 727590;1403381667;benkay;reminds me of a great hustle a neighbor got put through recently 727591;1403381712;benkay;house immediately downhill from the 'rents went on sale for 900k, reasoning being "well it was built by and inhabited by Dr. Hawthorne of this grand street a few blocks over who also built the insanitarium at the top of said street which is now a seminary" 727592;1403381785;benkay;the people doing the sale failed to do it on their own at 900k, so this vulture swooped in, started ratcheting the price down and as all the buyers trickled in said something along the lines of "I know that this isn't really what you're looking for, but how about I give you a call sometime next week and I'll show you some houses that might fit your budget and expectations a little bit better". 727593;1403381812;benkay;two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle. 727594;1403381870;benkay;so while best practices are a thing and brokers do get put to the coals, as with all regulated things only the dumb and most obviously rule-breaky are going to get their feet torched. i can't imagine it being any other way with programmering - the smart ones will shift the blame to the dumb ones, who will take the fall. age old story. 727595;1403381909;benkay;and what is this "not liable for errors" crap y'all are spouting? i have to fight for that clause in every contract I take on. 727596;1403381945;benkay;i have no idea what rat fuck of code i'm taking on, and i'm sure as hell not taking responsibility for your untested ball of hair falling over because this private method is getting called by your SUPER IMPORTANT WEEKLY REPORTs. 727597;1403382337;benkay; Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/ // linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work 727598;1403382338;assbot;#bitcoin-assets search 727599;1403382340;benkay;;;rate mthreat 1 727600;1403382341;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 727601;1403382345;benkay;oh i do do i 727602;1403382377;benkay;;;rate mthreat 1 727603;1403382379;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. 727604;1403382516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00080471 = 10.4612 BTC [+] 727605;1403382650;mircea_popescu;benkay> two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle. << dumbass approach imo, but hey 727606;1403382676;mircea_popescu;but that aside, the openssl recent string of bugs WOULD have been of the coal kind 727607;1403382708;mircea_popescu;which is exactly how it was argued for software responsibility immunity in the 80s : that ALL software failures are clearly of a coal-abl etype, and so not granting immunity would make software "impossible" 727608;1403382727;benkay;nah, torch anyone who implemented it in their own codebasen. no crime in releasing shit to the world, only a crime to put that shit in your cliquot 727609;1403382728;mircea_popescu;rms and co really meant "bad software" but just said "software", and "plain language" being what it is, who's to know the difference. 727610;1403382744;mircea_popescu;as if bitcoin'd suffer from a complete ban on all the tard venues, or computers from a complete disappearance of bad software 727611;1403382761;mircea_popescu;benkay methinks you might have to brush up on corp law :) 727612;1403382769;benkay;indubitably. 727613;1403382770;mircea_popescu;nobody'd put it in without specific representations and certifications 727614;1403382780;mircea_popescu;an' warranties an' indemnities 727615;1403382846;mircea_popescu;anyway, i wish i recall who wrote the example with the locks, in favour of software tort immunity 727616;1403382872;mircea_popescu;it went something like, "if a lock fails that lock can be replaced, but if software failed ALL a company's products fail at the same time so there's nobody to absorb the costs" 727617;1403382880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0684996 = 0.685 BTC [+] {2} 727618;1403382884;mircea_popescu;as if this were any kind of argument. as if crops don't fail exactly the same way. etc 727619;1403383027;benkay;i'm way out of my domain on this, but who gets the spike? devs on openssl and bitcoind > 0.6? 727620;1403383058;mircea_popescu;bitcoin 9.0, again. 727621;1403383062;benkay;the people who wrote PHP's rand? 727622;1403383063;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0686 = 0.686 BTC [+] 727623;1403383068;mircea_popescu;hearn didn't just fuck the db and get bitcoin forket 727624;1403383073;mircea_popescu;he also merged heartbleed into the codebase. 727625;1403383099;mircea_popescu;all in the name of the "needed" pki, which was never needed by us, it was needed by nsa. 727626;1403383131;benkay;does this go for all open source mistakes? 727627;1403383141;mircea_popescu;the notion that derps imagining themselves involved and part of and etc still treat hearn as anything but vomit behind a bar is perhaps the best argument against democracy. 727628;1403383155;mircea_popescu;well there's mistakes and there's "mistakes" 727629;1403383169;mircea_popescu;little girl taking a drink from suspicious man in overcoat is not making a mistake 727630;1403383173;mircea_popescu;is simply enacting a death wish. 727631;1403383346;benkay;but he's not wearing an overcoat, he's got a nice pair of slacks and a collared tee, and everyone except the weirdos in the corner are drinking with him. 727632;1403383404;mircea_popescu;right. and hearn isn't 12. 727633;1403383423;mircea_popescu;fancy that, adult world has like two or even three tiers of complexity on top of what you find in coloring books. 727634;1403383425;benkay;i thought hearn was handing out potions in this example. 727635;1403383442;mircea_popescu;heh. notrly. he's just a whore. 727636;1403383451;benkay;hm 727637;1403383455;mircea_popescu;infectious, of course, but nothing much than a tool of contagion. 727638;1403383474;benkay;;;later tell xmj i am now 727639;1403383474;gribble;The operation succeeded. 727640;1403384140;decimation;re: 48v DC << yeah most higher end servers can be ordered with 48v DC power supplies. works best with a rack-sized 48 v lead-acid battery 727641;1403384351;decimation;benkay: re: liability << yeah, but I assume you aren't shipping code for anonymous users, I assume you are writing some kind of support contract 727642;1403384393;decimation;My point about lack of liability has to do with why microsoft hasn't gotten sued for writing crapware that certainly has done demonstrable harm to users 727643;1403384443;benkay;i always figured that was the insane war chest they have and the mountain of paper under which they'd bury anyone. 727644;1403384458;benkay;i guess tho that's an artifact of operating in an environment where they're not held liable for their work? 727645;1403384466;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00080505 = 8.8556 BTC [+] {2} 727646;1403384535;mircea_popescu;i'd say that more likely. 727647;1403384564;mircea_popescu;all in the name of "open society of knowledge" and "progress" and generally speaking the mistaken view that exploring the space of opportunities is more valuable than staying in one piece 727648;1403384586;mircea_popescu;basically, "self-seeking" addicted college kids being given the reins of the country. 727649;1403384619;mircea_popescu;never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. 727650;1403384651;decimation;yes, much ruin was brought by that generation 727651;1403384684;asciilifeform;von neumann cpu, 'c' ~= chinese backyard steel 727652;1403384717;asciilifeform;everybody can get behind the impalement of author of 'heartbleed' but problem goes deeper. 727653;1403384727;decimation;imagine if you could be publicly executed for distributing heartbleed 727654;1403384738;decimation;everyone from the programmer down to the bios writer 727655;1403384748;decimation;do you think comptuer archs would change? 727656;1403384778;mircea_popescu;they would have to 727657;1403384783;mircea_popescu;for physical lack of who to continue. 727658;1403384792;asciilifeform;or programmers would be shot every day, like nork army colonels 727659;1403384801;asciilifeform;and people would sorta get used to it 727660;1403384815;mircea_popescu;i mean you're basically asking, "suppose you could be killed by trying to fuck scorpions in the tail. do you suppose fucking habits would change ?" 727661;1403384821;mircea_popescu;dunno dood... 727662;1403384832;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6806 @ 0.00080535 = 5.4812 BTC [+] 727663;1403384871;decimation;this is a pretty simple thought experiment, and the obvious conclusion is that computers (as they are now) are hopelessly insecure 727664;1403384882;asciilifeform;the 'computer industry' loves the crapfest, though. ('employment!' see http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388 etc) 727665;1403384884;assbot;Loper OS » Steam Lisp 727666;1403384888;asciilifeform;the only folks shafted: the users. 727667;1403384888;decimation;that kinda already puts us in north korea 727668;1403384893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9476 @ 0.0008044 = 7.6225 BTC [-] {2} 727669;1403384893;mircea_popescu;well, security was not the first priority. it rarely is, when going over new space. 727670;1403384904;mircea_popescu;security wasn't high on the list of gold seeking miners, or of cowboys, 727671;1403384912;mircea_popescu;or of early seafaring explorers 727672;1403384916;mircea_popescu;magellan died of fucking stupidity. 727673;1403384949;mircea_popescu;but by now computing is coallescing, and once moore's law finally fucking dies (trompi be praised) 727674;1403384961;mircea_popescu;we'll finally be in a position to put some fences up and make sense of the damned thing. 727675;1403384963;decimation;yeah but the difference is that those first 'explorers' were generally unable to dominate the world's market 727676;1403384963;asciilifeform;security is only one casualty of the crud flood 727677;1403384981;mircea_popescu;decimation this is a false impression, artefact of your context 727678;1403384987;mircea_popescu;they dominated the "world market" of their stupidity. 727679;1403384995;mircea_popescu;what's "go west young man" ? 727680;1403385013;decimation;right, but it wasn't The West Powered By Intel 727681;1403385029;mircea_popescu;was exactly the same thing, in its time's typeface. 727682;1403385042;mircea_popescu;powered by smith&wesson. 727683;1403385049;decimation;heh. that's a good point 727684;1403385057;mircea_popescu;what lasting cultural impact for s&w ? 727685;1403385101;decimation;well, the Winchester old bint built a castle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Mystery_House 727686;1403385101;assbot;Winchester Mystery House - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 727687;1403385109;mircea_popescu;right ? 727688;1403385119;mircea_popescu;(been there btw. imo not all that it's cracked up to be) 727689;1403385155;hanbot;mircea_popescu how did you fit through the doorways?! 727690;1403385186;mircea_popescu;none of the really tiny ones were open ot public 727691;1403385196;hanbot;i barely managed myself, thing's built for the vertically challenged 727692;1403385277;decimation;it is true that it seems like computing is coallescing. For instance, ascii's garbage-collector-on-a-chip sounds pretty feasible now, but would have been laughed at 10 years ago 727693;1403385302;asciilifeform;decimation: it was built in 1979. 727694;1403385310;decimation;your scheme chip? 727695;1403385316;asciilifeform;not mine, sussman's 727696;1403385332;asciilifeform;(i've invented not one of these things) 727697;1403385347;decimation;right I remember your post about sussman trying to dodge the "why did you give up" question 727698;1403385356;asciilifeform;;;google SCHEME-79 727699;1403385356;gribble;The SCHEME-79 Chip: ; SCHEME+79 Chip: ; Loper OS » Shards of Lost Technology, and the Need for High-Level ...: 727700;1403385392;decimation;bunnie haung has a post about future 'hierloom' hardware http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=1927 727701;1403385392;assbot;Why the Best Days of Open Hardware are Yet to Come « bunnie's blog 727702;1403385503;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00080516 = 22.3029 BTC [+] {2} 727703;1403385527;asciilifeform;i know quite a few people who use hardware built before or shortly after they were born, for which no 'modern' adequate replacement exists 727704;1403385540;asciilifeform;the 'heirloom computer' is old, old hat. 727705;1403385575;decimation;the symbolics stuff is certainly an example 727706;1403385595;asciilifeform;there are countless other examples. visit a university laboratory. 727707;1403385608;asciilifeform;$800K mass spectrometer connected to pc at. 727708;1403385666;decimation;even more modern, agilent lab gear that runs windows xp or 2000 727709;1403385689;asciilifeform;these will get upgraded. because they're already running on crashy turd, no big change 727710;1403385698;asciilifeform;the things that never upgrade - run on boxes that have never crashed. 727711;1403385714;decimation;yeah that's a good point 727712;1403385722;decimation;I had an old IBM AT once. thing was built like a tank 727713;1403385737;asciilifeform;recently toured university's music lab. they have a player piano, similar to the well-known mechanical kind, but electronic - pressure sensors, a disk full of recordings of famous pianists playing. disk on ms-dos box. 386. 727714;1403385738;decimation;the amount of steel that went into producing the cabinet was impressive 727715;1403385758;asciilifeform;servos controlled by isa card 727716;1403385770;decimation;heh 727717;1403385783;asciilifeform;(incidentally, you can get usb fixtures that will talk to an isa card. unsuitable for the piano - no 'hard real time' guarantee on usb!) 727718;1403385798;decimation;absolutely not 727719;1403385809;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10345 @ 0.00080545 = 8.3324 BTC [+] {2} 727720;1403385826;decimation;I've discovered from my own experience that newere Xeon chips are much more laggy than older single core pentiums 727721;1403385839;decimation;having 1024 chickens service your hardware isn't an improvement 727722;1403385850;asciilifeform;worse, unpredictably laggy. elaborate cache pyramid, easy to throw off 727723;1403385865;decimation;yeah it's like playing plinko with a real-time deadline 727724;1403385886;mircea_popescu;decimation> the amount of steel that went into producing the cabinet was impressive << i bought new desktop cases here. i could punch a hole threough the things 727725;1403385887;decimation;even in more modern stuff there is this effect. Look at features that are dying off in cell phones 727726;1403385893;asciilifeform;much of the supposed speed gains of recent decade were achieved using 'instruction re-ordering' 727727;1403385907;asciilifeform;which plays havoc with real-time anything. and with any attempt at hand optimization 727728;1403385928;decimation;http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3 << catalog of almost all known phones. Put in "keyboard" && "> 1.5 GHz clock" ... you get 4 results 727729;1403385928;assbot;Phone Finder - search for a phone by feature - GSMArena.com 727730;1403385952;mircea_popescu;phone keyboards were insanity 727731;1403385966;decimation;yeah every computer I get has a thinner case 727732;1403385975;decimation;most of them are plastic now 727733;1403385987;asciilifeform;you can still get steel if you buy 'rack' enclosures 727734;1403385991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00080552 = 21.1852 BTC [+] 727735;1403386000;benkay;phone keyboards are still infinitely better than touchscreens. 727736;1403386000;decimation;yeah, but you pay. 727737;1403386016;asciilifeform;an empty '2u' rack case is 300 usd or so 727738;1403386018;mircea_popescu;benkay but still unusable. 727739;1403386018;decimation;mircea, are you saying the touchscreen is a better interface for typing? 727740;1403386029;mircea_popescu;no lol. imsaying wtf typing on your phone. 727741;1403386037;mircea_popescu;the name is PHONE 727742;1403386038;benkay;old man 727743;1403386041;decimation;yeah that's a good point 727744;1403386046;benkay;i grew up typing on them 727745;1403386056;mircea_popescu;now that's sad. 727746;1403386059;benkay;with T9 i could hammer out punctuation-perfect anything without even looking. 727747;1403386073;asciilifeform;chording keyboard would've worked great on phones 727748;1403386074;decimation;well, I would argue that physical phone keyboards are a better match for the occasional typing needed, compared to a touchscreen input 727749;1403386078;mircea_popescu;"what do you mean drinking mud is bad for me. i grew up drinking mud" 727750;1403386082;decimation;but I take your point about it sucks 727751;1403386086;asciilifeform;(this one: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861) 727752;1403386088;assbot;Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin 727753;1403386088;mircea_popescu;anyone has a pic ready of the kids that bathed in warm water post chernobyl ? 727754;1403386096;benkay;hey i'm not saying mud's great 727755;1403386103;benkay;but it sure as heck beats actual shit. 727756;1403386104;mircea_popescu;benkay no i know 727757;1403386106;decimation;yeah I agree, why no chording interface 727758;1403386116;decimation;or hell, I would even enter morse code 727759;1403386133;mircea_popescu;decimation i'd rather have to whislte 8 baud into it than have to type on tha small shit 727760;1403386155;mircea_popescu;btw : why no whistle interface for smartphones yet ? 727761;1403386159;decimation;I agree, but if you are going to eat turds they might as well have a good keyboard 727762;1403386173;mircea_popescu;fucking "innovation" consisting of everyone making the same 3 games and 2 apps over and over AND OVER again 727763;1403386199;mircea_popescu;i bet you most people could whistle more wpm than they natively type 727764;1403386205;decimation;right, that's my point about phones (ascii has pointed this out before) - they are all converging on iphone clones 727765;1403386213;asciilifeform;morse is eminently learnable 727766;1403386234;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform yeah, and i recall the tests : morse is faster than texting. 727767;1403386240;asciilifeform;(re: fear of learning, obligatory naggum: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3140985758772364@naggum.no.html) 727768;1403386241;assbot;404 Not Found 727769;1403386242;mircea_popescu;;;google morse faster than texting 727770;1403386243;gribble;Wiki: Morse Faster Than Text Messaging: ; Morse Code VS Text Messaging - YouTube: ; Morse Code Operators versus Mobile Phone Texting - SchoolTube: 727771;1403386282;decimation;just like 'computers' were varied and interesting, and then all converged to wintel shitbox 727772;1403386291;asciilifeform;btw anyone who wants to try chording: 727773;1403386292;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/mwemu/mwemu.html 727774;1403386292;assbot;MwEmu 727775;1403386295;decimation;'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox 727776;1403386296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20702 @ 0.00080552 = 16.6759 BTC [+] 727777;1403386388;mircea_popescu;i dunno they were ever that interesting 727778;1403386397;mircea_popescu;i rapidly lost interest after motorola somethng or the other 727779;1403386416;mircea_popescu;the last one you could grab by antenna and hit peopleover the head with 727780;1403386429;benkay;star tac's were amazing 727781;1403386429;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 727782;1403386434;benkay;;;google star tac 727783;1403386435;gribble;Motorola StarTAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Motorola StarTAC is Back, in Yellow - Gizmodo: ; Motorola StarTAC 130 - lëkki: 727784;1403386442;mircea_popescu;the first clams ? 727785;1403386447;benkay;yup. 727786;1403386459;mircea_popescu;you only think that becaus they looked like a cona to you. 727787;1403386464;mircea_popescu;at an age when that was still a big deal 727788;1403386479;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.03847462 = 1.9622 BTC [-] 727789;1403386484;benkay;;;google cona 727790;1403386485;gribble;YMCA Youth Conference On National Affairs - Home: ; Carriage Operators of North America - Home Page: ; Cona - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 727791;1403386490;benkay;? 727792;1403386491;asciilifeform;there were sane people: 727793;1403386491;mircea_popescu;con~a 727794;1403386492;asciilifeform;http://www.xaphoon.com/dataegg 727795;1403386499;asciilifeform;(never mass produced) 727796;1403386514;asciilifeform;at some point you have to ask, what problem are you actually solving by building pocket computer 727797;1403386544;mircea_popescu;word. 727798;1403386558;mircea_popescu;maybe if i had a really small pet person, like 6 inches tall or so. 727799;1403386565;mircea_popescu;they could have a big iron 727800;1403386568;benkay;more compute near more people 727801;1403386577;benkay;hedonic treadmill 727802;1403386581;benkay;gameboy ain't enough 727803;1403386596;mircea_popescu;i vote decimation "worst internet connection of #b-a" 727804;1403386621;asciilifeform;what's he using? ip over wood-fired dead goat ? 727805;1403386655;decimation;I use these guys https://www.witopia.net/ 727806;1403386656;assbot;WiTopia Personal VPN Services Providers. Easily unblock Skype, Hulu, Netflix and Facebook - WiTopia 727807;1403386670;decimation;for some reason the openvpn client on linux lags to shit constantly 727808;1403386697;asciilifeform;i still don't get the point of connecting to freenode using a spam proxy 727809;1403386702;mircea_popescu;+1 727810;1403386723;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0684999 = 0.822 BTC [+] 727811;1403386728;decimation;I guess I don't like the idea of my actual IP being spammed everywhere 727812;1403386737;mircea_popescu;so get a cloak 727813;1403386771;mircea_popescu;"the leading provider of home technology services" 727814;1403386777;mircea_popescu;da fuck is that, like white goods ? 727815;1403386800;decimation;ascii, you don't even cloak - I assume it's because you want to examine that which buzzes into your pot? 727816;1403386812;asciilifeform;decimation: among other reasons 727817;1403386827;decimation;I think they market to military deployed overseas in countries that have firewalls 727818;1403386830;asciilifeform;this is eerily reminiscent of the discussion about folks who use their given names, vs. 'hard' pseudonyms 727819;1403386850;asciilifeform;decimation: such countries typically add public vpn companies to ban list 727820;1403386857;decimation;heh, the smart ones do 727821;1403386874;asciilifeform;solution is to have a privately owned box in a 'friendly' ip block to tunnel from 727822;1403386883;decimation;exactly 727823;1403386885;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform speaking of which, everyone at earlier mentioned brunch was floored. "but that is your real name ?!" "yeah" "but... but... but everyone uses a pseudonym" "i don't give a shit" *silence* 727824;1403386892;asciilifeform;lol 727825;1403386906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15060 @ 0.00080262 = 12.0875 BTC [-] {2} 727826;1403386909;mircea_popescu;i imagine it must suck to have a job working for idiots. 727827;1403386961;asciilifeform;public vpn is like a public reusable condom in whorehouse 727828;1403386967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00080142 = 6.5716 BTC [-] 727829;1403386967;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform that dataegg thing looks like the earlier nutso kbd 727830;1403386970;benkay;my insurance guy won't even ride his bike naked in the naked bike ride 727831;1403386973;benkay;o.O 727832;1403386983;benkay;goes anyways. 727833;1403387003;mircea_popescu;wtf 727834;1403387009;mircea_popescu;small cock ? 727835;1403387027;decimation;I've always been confused why "device" makers don't integrate morse code into the phone/pad/whatever 727836;1403387032;benkay;american puritanism. 727837;1403387041;benkay;"my clients, you see." 727838;1403387049;mircea_popescu;decimation keyboard with tickler on side would be pretty rad. 727839;1403387063;benkay;homeboy is brokering insurance deals for the queer community left right and sideways. yet..."my clients". 727840;1403387066;mircea_popescu;benkay i bet you an all naked insurance company'd make a killing 727841;1403387076;mircea_popescu;"we're not stealing from you - we wouldn't have where to hide it" 727842;1403387113;mircea_popescu;hire a dozen or so models/webcam girls, all the other womenz'd fall right in line 727843;1403387119;mircea_popescu;"o, but *everyone* does it" 727844;1403387169;decimation;you can buy a tactile watch http://gearhungry.com/2013/07/bradley-tactile-watch.html#!1Q8pl 727845;1403387170;assbot;Bradley Tactile Watch | GearHungry 727846;1403387193;benkay;gotta say i ain't got no clue as to how nudity'd sell insurance. 727847;1403387203;benkay;it's not like the underwriters office is anywhere near the customers. 727848;1403387284;mircea_popescu;then WHAT DIFF DOES IT MAKE 727849;1403387295;mircea_popescu;you see you have fallen right into my little trap!11 727850;1403387333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00080142 = 10.7791 BTC [-] 727851;1403387338;*;benkay wriggles frantically in the sticky ropes 727852;1403387347;decimation;re: public vpn: yeah but it keeps the ankelbiters away, kinda 727853;1403387349;benkay;aw fuck here we go again 727854;1403387455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0684999 = 1.507 BTC [+] {2} 727855;1403387638;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5090 @ 0.00080142 = 4.0792 BTC [-] 727856;1403388126;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06848 = 0.8902 BTC [-] 727857;1403388187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0675 = 1.9575 BTC [-] 727858;1403388188;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00080117 = 2.5637 BTC [-] 727859;1403388269;moiety;spending time reading logs keeps ankle biters away 727860;1403388302;moiety;you can put number on things like age but its really a dedication thing 727861;1403388339;moiety;am i teling myself that as a delusional spinster?! 727862;1403388354;moiety;i believe this tho 727863;1403388447;mircea_popescu;moiety depends how you mean it specifically ? 727864;1403388492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00080117 = 3.3649 BTC [-] 727865;1403388595;moiety;in terms of learning stuff here, i guess so mircea_popescu, but i have found in across board. there's some people i would hire that are half the age of those i wouldn't 727866;1403388613;moiety;it across the board* 727867;1403388620;mircea_popescu;well yeah 727868;1403388668;moiety;this past year has been my first steps into managing those online, irl its a lot easier and a very different 727869;1403388736;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 71 @ 0.0675 = 4.7925 BTC [-] 727870;1403388810;moiety;well that was maybe a wrong thing to say.... managing people irl is maybe easier if youre used to it 727871;1403388889;mircea_popescu;irl you also have tits. 727872;1403388906;decimation;wow it was easier to get a cloak than I figured it would be 727873;1403388924;mircea_popescu;mthreat http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4d/4d01d28147bdc6ffbb6feb6c576a7745f0935c8a523201ea11981c8c41b5ba9d.jpg 727874;1403388928;mircea_popescu;yes. 727875;1403388931;moiety;you just have to hang around decimation 727876;1403388978;moiety;mircea_popescu: well maybe thats why i was given a chance at being a good pa, but it doesnt mean you can deliver 727877;1403389103;mircea_popescu;moiety don't you find people tend to be less argumentative ? 727878;1403389126;mircea_popescu;https://www.google.com/search?q=i+have+the+tits+i+make+the+rules style. 727879;1403389127;assbot;i have the tits i make the rules - Google Search 727880;1403389177;decimation;re: age: I've found that "adult children" are common in the us anyway 727881;1403389224;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0008012 = 13.5403 BTC [+] {2} 727882;1403389262;mircea_popescu;http://24.media.tumblr.com/7f6943a23f0f408017552998442a9486/tumblr_mry28vfvYa1qdoxp5o1_500.jpg << fixed ? 727883;1403389295;moiety;not at all mircea_popescu it's actually a good test for me, tells me how someone would be to work with. if the argument is articulate, it makes a huge difference right? 727884;1403389306;mircea_popescu;right. 727885;1403389422;moiety;as an organiser, i find it rude telling me how to run things without a decent backup argument/reason and here are plenty that try. its just a hmnmo thx but i take note of the ideas 727886;1403389444;moiety;there are plenty that try* 727887;1403389518;moiety;! publio 727888;1403389528;moiety;!publio 727889;1403389551;moiety;assbot, cmon just forgive me eh 727890;1403389590;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00080125 = 15.6244 BTC [+] 727891;1403389657;TheNewDeal;no need for up now? 727892;1403389662;TheNewDeal;just ! ? 727893;1403389687;benkay;! publio 727894;1403389695;benkay;!publio 727895;1403389701;benkay;!up publio 727896;1403389705;benkay;!down publio 727897;1403389705;publio;not sure.. 727898;1403389721;benkay;! khersonus 727899;1403389731;benkay;*shrug* 727900;1403389779;mircea_popescu;odd 727901;1403389805;mircea_popescu;and down is broked ? 727902;1403389807;mircea_popescu;!down publio 727903;1403389813;benkay;!up CoalPowerGorilla 727904;1403389814;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust assbot publio 727905;1403389814;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask publio!~publio@c-68-61-150-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user publio: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=publio | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=publio | Rated since: Sun Apr 15 23:05:03 2012 727906;1403389817;mircea_popescu;oic 727907;1403389817;benkay;!down CoalPowerGorilla 727908;1403389835;mircea_popescu;publio had you self-voiced coincidentally just as moiety was derping ? 727909;1403389851;publio;did it just to spite :) 727910;1403389855;mircea_popescu;oic 727911;1403389860;benkay;clever m'lad 727912;1403389977;TheNewDeal;that's ridiculous. Had me going 727913;1403390028;mircea_popescu;"And more to the point here, it is the reason why women often feel that men have "the upper hand" in relationships. That feeling doesn't exist because men are dominant over women or have some kind of real advantage; it is just because men are strongly motivated by sex, and therefore get into relationships with girls they don't really care about - or at least, they get into relationships with girls who care more about t 727914;1403390029;mircea_popescu;hem than they do about the girls, even if only by a small amount. In other words, men only have the upper hand because they have this tendency to play below their league." 727915;1403390044;mircea_popescu;intriguing theory off random derpy blog http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2011/10/upper-hand-in-relationships.html 727916;1403390044;assbot;The Rules Revisited: The Upper Hand In Relationships 727917;1403390098;benkay;those post-25 year old females punch below their weight too - only way to recruit a provider at that phase of life. 727918;1403390121;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/five-bucks-for-great-justice/ 727919;1403390128;benkay;going back to yesterdays conversation about the dearth of leadership and stones etc 727920;1403390134;mircea_popescu;sure. and he goes into full retard mode right after, proposing that somehow "not givingit up easy" helps a woman's position. 727921;1403390160;mircea_popescu;it so happens that i won't even consider women that don't, i'm pretty sure the top generally doesn't, and so it's a quite dangerous strat. 727922;1403390390;benkay;well if we can rathole on the evolutionary psychology thing playing hard to get raises the bar for potential impregnators. 727923;1403390402;benkay;"gotta work for it", or raep. 727924;1403390452;mircea_popescu;if she doesn't have thesense to realise she's accidentally run into the absolute best, she can't be all that smart in the first place. 727925;1403390455;mircea_popescu;who wants dummies ? 727926;1403390507;benkay;judging competence is hard, though. ergo heuristics like playing hard to get. 727927;1403390527;benkay;obvs the top of the top enjellify legs without really even trying 727928;1403390545;benkay;but...0.01% oslt 727929;1403390586;mircea_popescu;well yeah. but by playing hard to get you may get +10 on your average catch, but also get the guarantee you're never getting in the bed of that 0.whatever% 727930;1403390589;thestringpuller;sluts who play hard to get: oxymoron or profound truth? 727931;1403390592;mircea_popescu;this also isn't a very good strat. 727932;1403390611;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller nah, that's ancient whore strat. i even wrote it up im pretty sure 727933;1403390616;mircea_popescu;;;google trilema whore strat 727934;1403390617;gribble;Back to work, whore. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin ... - Trilema: ; Iulie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: 727935;1403390645;thestringpuller;the former or latter? 727936;1403390651;thestringpuller;i assume "back to work whore" 727937;1403390665;benkay;relatedly, lady v and i were saying goodbyes at a dinner party last night, all of the girls with whom i'm friends with at this thing lined up for hugs and kisses - and then the new girl in the room gets up and right in line as well, demanding hers giggling and blushing all the while 727938;1403390688;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00079943 = 2.4383 BTC [-] 727939;1403390693;mircea_popescu;hmm now i can't find it. 727940;1403390705;thestringpuller;benkay: "OMG I smelle riches and success. *blush blush blush*. I want a hug now!!!!" 727941;1403390714;benkay;basically 727942;1403390720;thestringpuller;did lady benkay choke a bitch? 727943;1403390748;benkay;no no she's an instigator 727944;1403390773;thestringpuller;instagator how? Like "you should get some hugs from them cute girls" ? 727945;1403390804;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller the idea being that an utter whore denying the pack leader any fucking has a decent chance to drive him mad and end up in some sort of "that obscure object of desire " situation. 727946;1403390838;mircea_popescu;basically her refusal to give him what she gives the whole pack is a slight, but one he has no redress for : she's already an outcast. 727947;1403390889;benkay;thestringpuller: more like she gets the girls primed 727948;1403390902;benkay;mp has better stories on this. 727949;1403390915;benkay;and it's lady v to you, sir. 727950;1403390932;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0670032 = 1.3401 BTC [+] {3} 727951;1403390939;mircea_popescu;benkay so did she feel girls butt while hugging ? 727952;1403390960;mircea_popescu; benkay: "OMG I smelle riches and success. *blush blush blush*. I want a hug now!!!!" << dun be an asshole, maybe she's just fun loving. 727953;1403391025;benkay;maybe she's just doing what all the other girls are doing 727954;1403391050;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: I've been surrounded by 20 year olds for the past decade...they always want something... 727955;1403391074;mircea_popescu;well of coursethey want something. all living things want stuff. 727956;1403391102;benkay; benkay so did she feel girls butt while hugging ? // no but great idea 727957;1403391107;benkay;great butt idea 727958;1403391110;benkay;<3 727959;1403391111;benkay;butts 727960;1403391117;benkay;$bait 727961;1403391122;benkay;$butts 727962;1403391144;mircea_popescu;experience. 727963;1403391176;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23220 @ 0.0007988 = 18.5481 BTC [-] {2} 727964;1403391717;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 79(Y):21(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.805 BTC. Current weight: 78,832. 727965;1403391718;thestringpuller;!mpif 727966;1403391720;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 727967;1403391782;mircea_popescu;so actually trading under nav huh 727968;1403391813;benkay;mike called it yesterday 727969;1403391819;benkay;mike_c 727970;1403391847;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14181 @ 0.00080132 = 11.3635 BTC [+] {2} 727971;1403391865;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 727972;1403391865;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (500 shares, 0.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.0002165 / 0.00021726 (26680 shares, 5.78 BTC) 727973;1403392311;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/chipmunk.jpg 727974;1403392355;benkay;guest? 727975;1403392386;mircea_popescu;nah just random trilema pic. from http://www.laurieandcicero.com/index.html 727976;1403392387;assbot;Laurie & Cicero's Favorite Spots 727977;1403392461;penguirker;New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/argentina-and-the-art-of-being-into-it/ 727978;1403392749;benkay;that's what i like about portland as well 727979;1403392762;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00080036 = 1.3606 BTC [-] 727980;1403392771;benkay;people are into their stuff entirely unabashedly. although here, it's knitting sweaters for trees and not sawing off epic hunks of meat. 727981;1403392791;benkay;or...performing Original Star Trek in graveyards. 727982;1403392800;mircea_popescu;wait. 727983;1403392803;mircea_popescu;for trees ?! 727984;1403392813;benkay;or the World Naked Bike Ride, or Pedalpalooza in general. 727985;1403392820;benkay;you'll see them down in bsas as well. 727986;1403392838;benkay;just a different kind of street art. 727987;1403392845;benkay;oh and not just trees - bike staples as well. 727988;1403392891;mircea_popescu;hm 727989;1403392908;*;benkay waits for the scathing critique of all things America 727990;1403393251;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16918 @ 0.00080091 = 13.5498 BTC [+] {2} 727991;1403393338;thestringpuller;benkay: are you surrounded by hippies in your city? 727992;1403393372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-] {2} 727993;1403393555;mircea_popescu;" Lisp is not the kind of language that insecure losers would use. people do not want to learn Lisp because they stand a better chance of beating another unskilled fool in the job race. fact is: you don't get a job by lying about your Lisp skills. all of this means that there is very little activity at the front gate, where all the journalists and the media are. there are no people struggling like mad to ge 727994;1403393556;mircea_popescu;t into the Lisp world. they don't have to. if you want to learn Lisp, you go learn Lisp and talk to nice people who probably have time for you, and you make yourself good at it. then you go do complex stuff that insecure losers who lie about their Java skills can't even imagine, and therefore do not consider part of the competition." 727995;1403393561;mircea_popescu;pretty lulzy how accurate this is. 727996;1403393567;mircea_popescu;not necessarily about lisp 727997;1403394759;benkay;thestringpuller: transients come, transients go. part of the nature of...transients. 727998;1403394808;benkay;there are a lot of underemployed hipster girls about tho - and none of 'em can make a life where they can afford babies in the states anymore. ergo, tree-sweaters. 727999;1403394823;benkay;dunno what's going on down in buenos aires tho. 728000;1403394836;mircea_popescu;sad. 728001;1403394841;mircea_popescu;women here can have kids, yes. 728002;1403394860;benkay;families also paint great big huge murals on their intersections to slow cars down. 728003;1403394872;benkay;it's a weird place, but that's why i like it. 728004;1403394939;*;moiety urgh is all i have to say 728005;1403394958;mircea_popescu;"dead or dying software projects lie around all over the place, like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers" 728006;1403394961;mircea_popescu;beautiful. 728007;1403395035;Mats_cd03;17:14:14 mircea_popescu: i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/ 728008;1403395040;Mats_cd03;gems abound in today's log 728009;1403395084;mircea_popescu;you ain't seen nothin' yet Mats_cd03 728010;1403395205;benkay;i don't know that the women *can't* have kids so much as the men aren't interested in being fathers or even men 728011;1403395222;mircea_popescu;is what i meant. 728012;1403395295;mircea_popescu;"when you write manuals for naval or air force vessels, you don't use MS Word and hope Microsoft doesn't come out with yet another incompatible disservice pack and/or upgrade, you use CALS and enterprise-wide publishing systems." 728013;1403395302;mircea_popescu;holy shit what is he on about. what happened to tex. 728014;1403395330;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: cals is/was a mind-bogglingly pedantic spec from us dod (circa early 80s) 728015;1403395352;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: with the idea that under no circumstances would the death of one, two, hundred vendors lead to unreadable texts 728016;1403395371;mircea_popescu;hm 728017;1403395371;asciilifeform;the result was a mega-backbreaker - like Ada. but it sorta worked. 728018;1403395375;mircea_popescu;i am ignorant ofsuch matters. 728019;1403395406;asciilifeform;they could have, in principle, picked tex, but the latter has no hard spec for graphics. 728020;1403395463;asciilifeform;all of this took place in the long-gone era when usg insisted on full blueprints, chip masks (!) etc. to ensure longevity of a complete design 728021;1403395463;mircea_popescu;as in tables ? 728022;1403395467;asciilifeform;as in bitmaps 728023;1403395474;mircea_popescu;wtf bitmaps 728024;1403395479;asciilifeform;and vector (e.g. cad) 728025;1403395481;mircea_popescu;svg ? 728026;1403395498;asciilifeform;svg is a very recent thing 728027;1403395513;asciilifeform;remember, this is pre-sgml even 728028;1403395526;mircea_popescu;oh oh 728029;1403395538;asciilifeform;us dod realized that computer would remain 'a thing' - wanted hard specced formats. 728030;1403395549;asciilifeform;one of the last gasps of reason from that institution 728031;1403395571;asciilifeform;(naggum is known to have worked in ada. hence his familiarity with the matter) 728032;1403395622;asciilifeform;what computer-based product, on the shelf today, can be guaranteed manufacturable 50 years hence? 728033;1403395638;asciilifeform;that was the objective. some semblance of guarantee. 728034;1403395668;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform flash rom 728035;1403395705;asciilifeform;funny that you mention roms, because vintage arcade machine enthusiasts go through astounding gymnastics to replicate the behaviour of '80s roms. 728036;1403395708;mircea_popescu;and to push a point, im pretty sure the mosfets are unchanged 728037;1403395711;mircea_popescu;since maybe 60s 728038;1403395746;asciilifeform;if you want an analogue part with known 'curves', you usually have to work at it. 728039;1403395774;asciilifeform;ask a fellow who's into vintage musical synths 728040;1403395798;asciilifeform;(or the valve aficionados) 728041;1403395841;asciilifeform;obligatory: 728042;1403395842;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-QMuUQhVM 728043;1403395842;assbot;hand making vacuum tubes Part 1 - YouTube 728044;1403395948;mircea_popescu;!up cowloon 728045;1403395964;cowloon;what's that mean 728046;1403395979;benkay;http://www.cmog.org/artwork/fuck 728047;1403395980;assbot;FUCK | Corning Museum of Glass 728048;1403395995;mircea_popescu;it means you can talk. 728049;1403396015;cowloon;oh, thanks 728050;1403396031;cowloon;but, I'm just here to lurk at the moment 728051;1403396066;mircea_popescu;it'll fade away, don't worry. 728052;1403396096;benkay;http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/teslas-sensitive-brush-bulbs-or-the-invention-of-the-fluorescent-light/ 728053;1403396096;assbot;Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Tesla’s wireless ‘sensitive brush’ Bulbs (Or: The invention of the Fluorescent light) 728054;1403396192;benkay;http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/burning-man-2007-and-2008-my-custom-neon-plasma-tubes/ 728055;1403396193;assbot;Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Burning Man 2007 and 2008: My custom neon plasma tubes- 728056;1403396283;asciilifeform;benkay: my parents had a soviet gizmo that consisted of exactly such a tube, with small tesla coil in the handle (dermatological crackpot medicine) so i got to see/feel mr t's tube on own hide. 728057;1403396303;asciilifeform;;;google дарсонваль 728058;1403396304;gribble;Дарсонваль - YouTube: ; Дарсонваль c AliExpress - YouTube: ; Физиотерапия дарсонваль - YouTube: 728059;1403396333;*;asciilifeform laughed when, decades hence, saw the same in american sex shops 728060;1403396357;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform actually it's jolting if inserted up the cunt 728061;1403396368;asciilifeform;i can picture this 728062;1403396407;asciilifeform;for those who don't own this toy - it is rather like the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time, but - constantly 728063;1403396411;mircea_popescu;so it has legitimate place in sex shop 728064;1403396424;mircea_popescu;if not in derma clinic (which is still done btw, high end spas and whatnot) 728065;1403396447;asciilifeform;zaps, e.g. acne pretty well. 728066;1403396451;mircea_popescu;" the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time" << he means, when wearing mixed wool and plastic clothing 728067;1403396466;asciilifeform;or wool slippers 728068;1403396467;benkay;http://www.remingtonproducts.com/womens/ipl/i-light-pro/i-light-pro-intense-pulsed-light-hair-removal-system.aspx << does this shit work? 728069;1403396469;assbot;i-LIGHT Pro Intense Pulsed Light Hair Removal System | Remington Products 728070;1403396539;benkay;it seems to cook the follicle... 728071;1403396564;asciilifeform;go find the fellow who'll agree to shave with this. 728072;1403396586;asciilifeform;(reminds me of the russian ww2 recipe for a quick shave - petrol.) 728073;1403396589;benkay;test it on a babe... 728074;1403396603;benkay;dissolves the hair, asciilifeform ? 728075;1403396608;asciilifeform;negative 728076;1403396611;asciilifeform;gotta light it. 728077;1403396611;mircea_popescu;benkay you have no idea how far the female threshold is. 728078;1403396619;mircea_popescu;they brazilian wax FOR SPORT 728079;1403396643;benkay;i gotta start waxing for sport 728080;1403396687;asciilifeform;light coat of high-boiling fuel on skin won't burn the latter - watch a stage magician set own hands on fire, etc 728081;1403396697;asciilifeform;best done by one skilled in the art. 728082;1403396711;asciilifeform;;;google leidenfrost effect 728083;1403396713;gribble;Leidenfrost effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Hand vs. Liquid Nitrogen and the Leidenfrost Effect - YouTube: ; BOILING AND THE LEIDENFROST EFFECT - Wiley: 728084;1403396750;benkay;okay so in this book of historical erotica i was browsing at the party last night in place of the utterly inane conversation of drunks and the unemployable i discovered a print titled 'the barber', where some woman was having her cooch shaved 728085;1403396756;benkay;this from like 1640 or something 728086;1403396782;benkay;and while I *know* that nothing is new under the sun, i still learned last night that cuntshaving's been a thing forever. 728087;1403396788;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00080134 = 3.8697 BTC [+] 728088;1403396790;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform you familiar with this supposed siberian torture technique, give naked victim gasoline and a book of matches and let them be ? 728089;1403396791;benkay;;;ticker 728090;1403396793;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.8, Best ask: 590.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.94000, Last trade: 592.32, 24 hour volume: 2972.46767097, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 594.99, 24 hour vwap: 588.094009094 728091;1403396793;mircea_popescu;something like that 728092;1403396817;mircea_popescu;benkay not forever. i think it was a greek invention. 728093;1403396836;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: this works on americans. who routinely manage to light themselves up when trying to start backyard fires 728094;1403396853;mircea_popescu;lol 728095;1403396971;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00080134 = 5.1286 BTC [+] 728096;1403397959;benkay;that's forever to me ;) 728097;1403398862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00080134 = 11.1386 BTC [+] 728098;1403399350;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-] 728099;1403399960;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00080123 = 17.9476 BTC [-] 728100;1403400202;mircea_popescu;!up nerdfiles 728101;1403401302;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23429 @ 0.00080228 = 18.7966 BTC [+] {3} 728102;1403401607;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.19224285 = 2.6914 BTC [-] {9} 728103;1403401790;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00080123 = 7.7719 BTC [-] 728104;1403403682;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19 = 5.7 BTC [-] 728105;1403404353;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00080123 = 6.9306 BTC [-] 728106;1403405029;mircea_popescu;argentine flan kicks ass 728107;1403405413;assbot;muXne +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 728108;1403405655;mircea_popescu;!up muxne 728109;1403405667;assbot;Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 728110;1403405700;mircea_popescu;!up vexual 728111;1403405701;mircea_popescu;noobs 728112;1403406056;mircea_popescu;!up vexual 728113;1403406085;Vexual;hi 728114;1403406128;mircea_popescu;no soup for you. 728115;1403406221;Vexual;tell me about it 728116;1403406229;Vexual;i tried to go to the thing in hong kong 728117;1403406250;Vexual;calced exactly the whisky to sleep for 8 hours 728118;1403406257;mircea_popescu;there was this duckling earlier. 728119;1403406278;Vexual;frindly airport staff think i overcalced 728120;1403406353;Vexual;duckling? 728121;1403406399;mircea_popescu;what's your bell come to by the\ way ? 728122;1403406477;asciilifeform;unrelated to anything (save possible the legal sophistries discussions): 728123;1403406478;asciilifeform;http://pastebin.com/EYwLyU1y 728124;1403406478;assbot;sacchetti - Pastebin.com 728125;1403406494;asciilifeform;took ages to dig up the english 728126;1403407586;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2069 @ 0.00080353 = 1.6625 BTC [+] 728127;1403407637;mircea_popescu;!up kanzure 728128;1403407677;asciilifeform;;;ident kanzure 728129;1403407677;gribble;Nick 'kanzure', with hostmask 'kanzure!~kanzure@131.252.130.248', is not identified. 728130;1403407696;asciilifeform;kanzure: get in wot so i can rate you as known human 728131;1403408128;kanzure;asciilifeform: oops sorry about that 728132;1403408144;kanzure;asciilifeform: fixed 728133;1403408156;kanzure;asciilifeform: btw, i bought a dna synthesizer the other day 728134;1403408167;asciilifeform;which one 728135;1403408170;kanzure;ABI 391 728136;1403408178;asciilifeform;neato 728137;1403408186;kanzure;hell yeah! a decade of cancer here i come. 728138;1403408221;kanzure;gonna be hooking up a microfluidic column based on a projector 728139;1403408249;kanzure;to do 1920x1080 sequences simultaneously 728140;1403408380;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06699799 = 0.871 BTC [+] 728141;1403408413;asciilifeform;;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer 728142;1403408413;gribble;Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. 728143;1403408417;kanzure;asciilifeform: still trying to figure out how to paint the device, 728144;1403408423;kanzure;i was thinking painting this over the beige panels: http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg 728145;1403408454;asciilifeform;;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer 728146;1403408455;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kanzure has been recorded. 728147;1403408660;kanzure;also open to suggestions for other graffiti options 728148;1403408756;mircea_popescu;that domain read redtube at frst 728149;1403408785;kanzure;might as well 728150;1403409172;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00080506 = 7.5676 BTC [+] 728151;1403409294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 119 @ 0.067 = 7.973 BTC [+] 728152;1403409608;assbot;Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 728153;1403409660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23076 @ 0.00080552 = 18.5882 BTC [+] 728154;1403409904;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 728155;1403409904;gribble;Current Blocks: 307140 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1307 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16458311240.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.25228 728156;1403409905;moiety;whoops well the doge community does not like being told "fuck you".... i'm in the doghouse 728157;1403410439;Vexual;boingo brain u genius 728158;1403410606;mthreat;!up mjr_ 728159;1403410881;mthreat; mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << sure, do you have the logs for the first year? 728160;1403410970;Vexual;lol 728161;1403410977;mthreat; linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work << i'm shit at CSS; feel free to suggest changes, with css/html code if possible 728162;1403411024;mircea_popescu;mthreat drop me your email, ill send you what i got. 728163;1403411028;mircea_popescu;lemme see here 728164;1403411063;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080559 = 13.0103 BTC [+] {2} 728165;1403411072;mircea_popescu;Azelphur FabianB mod6 punkman mind sendinmg your early logs to mthreat too ? 728166;1403411090;mircea_popescu;up until july 2013 if memory serves. 728167;1403411114;mircea_popescu;may actually. 728168;1403411166;mthreat;log.b-a currently goes back to 26-4-2013 I believe 728169;1403411174;mjr_;what a treasure trove of fun memories 728170;1403411185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9997 @ 0.00080506 = 8.0482 BTC [-] 728171;1403411186;mthreat;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2013 728172;1403411187;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 728173;1403411221;mthreat;^ that is the oldest day, and the first entry has id #1. 728174;1403411368;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00080464 = 8.7062 BTC [-] {2} 728175;1403411429;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 894 @ 0.00080255 = 0.7175 BTC [-] 728176;1403412771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00080255 = 13.523 BTC [-] 728177;1403413442;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00080574 = 6.8488 BTC [+] 728178;1403413442;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.067 = 1.206 BTC [+] 728179;1403413467;Vexual;yo smidge, -1 me for effectiveness 728180;1403413484;Vexual;:) 728181;1403413567;benkay;;;ident Vexual 728182;1403413567;gribble;CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne 728183;1403413582;benkay;is this real life? 728184;1403413585;Vexual;can i haz job now ben10? 728185;1403413595;benkay;;;gettrust assbot muXne 728186;1403413595;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014 728187;1403413629;benkay;well if this aint a how d'you do 728188;1403413657;benkay;i don't hire markov chains, Vexual 728189;1403413807;benkay;but play some music i might send you a bitcent or two 728190;1403413807;Vexual;shit got lippy, i deleted it 728191;1403413825;Vexual;now i forget what you like 728192;1403413860;benkay;well i enjoyed this a lot today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-QRw9Pl5WI&eml=2014June19/1644059/6011909 728193;1403413860;assbot;Seeed - Cherry Oh 2014 (Animatic) - YouTube 728194;1403413981;benkay;peeeeete 728195;1403413993;benkay;m'lad 728196;1403414034;bitcoinpete;lol hey benkay 728197;1403414046;bitcoinpete;just came across this gem: https://twitter.com/coin_artist/status/480574910515789825 728198;1403414047;assbot;Portrait of /AmirTaaki and /Radomysisky. Let the decrypting begin. Victor takes all. /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/art?src=hash /hashtag/hiddentreasure?src=hash http://t.co/JmrjfROEWO 728199;1403414277;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--WNQEZhtOQ 728200;1403414277;assbot;"I Always Smile Kid" BL-DUB BEATS - YouTube 728201;1403414427;mircea_popescu;ହିନ୍ଜଡା << this is a word 728202;1403414462;Apocalyptic;in Sumerian maybe 728203;1403414475;mircea_popescu;some indian language 728204;1403414492;Vexual;sanskrit? 728205;1403414551;moiety;what does it mean? 728206;1403414561;Vexual;^ 728207;1403414608;moiety;is it just me that it looks like a row of people to? 728208;1403414619;moiety;well, heads 728209;1403414643;mircea_popescu;yeah. 728210;1403414651;moiety;XD 728211;1403414794;Vexual;i met a girl that knew sanskrit once 728212;1403414819;mircea_popescu;mthreat sent to april 27th 728213;1403414826;mircea_popescu;there are prolly holes in it tho 728214;1403414845;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.067 = 1.005 BTC [+] 728215;1403414858;mthreat;ok 728216;1403414923;mircea_popescu;;;later tell pigeons hey you got old -assets logs ? 2012 to 2013 ? 728217;1403414923;gribble;The operation succeeded. 728218;1403415005;mircea_popescu;Aug 10 08:04:15 *patrickharnett (cb4f5ec0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.79.94.192) has joined #bitcoin-assets 728219;1403415008;mircea_popescu;days of yore heh 728220;1403415025;mircea_popescu;;;seen bitfoo 728221;1403415025;gribble;bitfoo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 14 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: +1 for informative titles 728222;1403415028;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-] 728223;1403415211;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00080485 = 12.4752 BTC [-] {3} 728224;1403415246;mircea_popescu;;;seen oneeyed 728225;1403415246;gribble;oneeyed was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: Oh, I thought I had read an IRC transcript on bitcointalk earlier today. Sorry for the confusion. 728226;1403415278;mircea_popescu;what's jcpham's gay nick these days ? 728227;1403415333;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4438 @ 0.00080599 = 3.577 BTC [+] 728228;1403415570;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, rithm 728229;1403415576;mircea_popescu;a yes ty. 728230;1403415593;mircea_popescu;;;later tell rithm hey you got old -assets logs ? dump em on mthreat 728231;1403415593;gribble;The operation succeeded. 728232;1403415606;Apocalyptic;yw 728233;1403415645;bitcoinpete;man the world cup wouldn't be 1/10th as interesting w/o bitbet 728234;1403415646;moiety;imma get a couple hours sleep, night all :] 728235;1403415651;bitcoinpete;having a huge amount of fun 728236;1403415664;bitcoinpete;cheers moiety :) 728237;1403415671;mircea_popescu;moiety sex weeks to you! 728238;1403415687;moiety;XD 728239;1403415817;bitcoinpete;the blackcoin "community" has been driving some traffic to my blog with the litecoin article 728240;1403415818;bitcoinpete;http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/28nfvs/why_its_over_for_litecoin_this_is_great_for/ 728241;1403415819;assbot;Why Its Over For Litecoin (This is GREAT for BlackCoin!) : blackcoin 728242;1403415833;bitcoinpete;there are some lulz in the comments 728243;1403415842;bitcoinpete;"Peter Dushenski is a first class bellend who would attack blackcoin if it was in litecoins position. JUST REMEMBER THAT!" 728244;1403415851;bitcoinpete;probably the best one there 728245;1403415887;bitcoinpete;"Blackcoin definitely has what it takes to be competitive in today's market. A solid development team combined with a focus on real-world adoption will give us a bright future." 728246;1403415913;Vexual;yarr 728247;1403415922;bitcoinpete;"I don't necessarily disagree with the message, and I think advertising there a great idea. However, we should absolutely not stoop to coin wars type of posts. Blackcoin can succeed along with LTC." 728248;1403415927;bitcoinpete;don't stoop! 728249;1403415960;bitcoinpete;"My point is simply that honey attracts more flies than vinegar and we don't need to attack other coins or promote negativity. It turns people off." 728250;1403415978;bitcoinpete;that dale carnegie... 728251;1403416007;mircea_popescu;bellend eh ? 728252;1403416045;mircea_popescu;wtf is blackcoin in the first place. 728253;1403416055;Vexual;not atc\ 728254;1403416110;mircea_popescu;that's a point. 728255;1403416139;bitcoinpete;ya… bellend… not even "m'lad" 728256;1403416176;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPool/status/480459195855020032 728257;1403416177;assbot;/hashtag/TeamBlack?src=hash just finished getting interviewed by /CoinTelegraph really awesome stuff! http://t.co/EObIGvkbYr 728258;1403416188;bitcoinpete;there they be 728259;1403416199;bitcoinpete;in all dat glory 728260;1403416217;mircea_popescu;justusranvier you know if you made a point of cutting out tired cliches such as "By now everyone has heard of" your writing'd benefit immensely. 728261;1403416236;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: Fucking hashpower << this. 728262;1403416302;mircea_popescu;"The origins of modern currencies started with gold and other precious metals." modern has an actual meaning. modern currencies start with the paper receipts used in england and then spread all over. premodern money starts with bronze and shells. 728263;1403416338;Vexual;bronzing up is still a thing 728264;1403416352;mircea_popescu;"Over time, as finance and commerce became more sophisticated, the concept of a unit of account emerge and gold generally became the default unit. Much has been written regarding why gold fell into this role, but for our purposes here its sufficient to note that it did." << seriously ?! what is this, insult the reader's intelligence club ? 728265;1403416412;Vexual;;;ud bronzing up 728266;1403416413;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bronzing%20Up | "They smeared themselves with their own waste, but the protest (known in jails as bronzing up) proved futile when they were later told they were not required at ... 728267;1403416445;mircea_popescu;that thing needs a complete re-write 728268;1403416475;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqrvF4qCQAAEmtE.jpg << that's the solid dev team that defvinitely "has what it takes in the market" ? 728269;1403416538;mircea_popescu;also in the news, cointelegraph needs a bubble level 728270;1403416596;bitcoinpete;that yellow tie does wonders to obscure the gender of its bearer 728271;1403416620;bitcoinpete;sorta reminds me of the italian model cum nun 728272;1403416659;bitcoinpete;in the "well that's unexpected" way 728273;1403416705;mircea_popescu;not like there's any women in these solid teams anyway 728274;1403416748;bitcoinpete;despite their "fairly distributed" motto 728275;1403416779;bitcoinpete;i bet you their "community bounties" aren't all they're cracked up to be either 728276;1403416810;bitcoinpete;Cosmos: I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive << i want to sense sarcasm but i'm just not seeing it 728277;1403416840;bitcoinpete;o there it is 728278;1403416855;bitcoinpete;subtle 728279;1403416929;mircea_popescu;"They are beyond question the loveliest of all their sex...In the United States, of course, where natural selection has been going on, as elsewhere, and where, much more than elsewhere, that has been a great variety to choose from. The eventual American woman will be even more beautiful than the woman of to-day. Her claims to that distinction will result from a fine combination of the best points of all those many race 728280;1403416930;mircea_popescu;s which have helped to make our population." 728281;1403416946;mircea_popescu;someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. 728282;1403417007;bitcoinpete;never saw walmarters coming... 728283;1403417061;mircea_popescu;beauty does not coexist with convenience. 728284;1403417071;mircea_popescu;only the knuth and starvation makes beautiful girls. 728285;1403417114;mircea_popescu;apparently it's spelled knout 728286;1403417158;bitcoinpete;;;google knout 728287;1403417159;gribble;Knout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Knout - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; knout - Wiktionary: 728288;1403417175;bitcoinpete;myeah 728289;1403417210;bitcoinpete;googling "knuth" brings up this http://xkcd.com/163/ 728290;1403417211;assbot;xkcd: Donald Knuth 728291;1403417246;mircea_popescu;flogger and famine. there, it even alliterates. 728292;1403417323;bitcoinpete;starve and strap too 728293;1403417434;Vexual;hmmmmmmmm 728294;1403417470;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k 728295;1403417470;assbot;Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube 728296;1403418133;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-PsaQCwoY 728297;1403418133;assbot;OnDubGround - NoNoNo RMX - YouTube 728298;1403418164;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. << added to the growing list 728299;1403418639;bitcoinpete;decimation: 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox << following the leader instead of trying new shit like this is guaranteed to screw over the entire industry 728300;1403418653;bitcoinpete;just end up racing to the bottom on cost and process efficiency 728301;1403419332;bitcoinpete;and logged up and... ready for bed. golf in the morning! 728302;1403419825;mircea_popescu;nighty dear world. 728303;1403420030;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00080963 = 12.2659 BTC [+] {2} 728304;1403420806;punkman1;https://soundcloud.com/whyy-the-pulse/an-audio-illusion 728305;1403420806;assbot;An audio illusion by WHYY The Pulse on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds 728306;1403420842;punkman1;morning guv'nor 728307;1403421043;Vexual;morm'm got that sans flash? 728308;1403421209;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjhsPt_8Gw 728309;1403421209;assbot;Daft Punk - Teachers - YouTube 728310;1403421260;punkman1;try this https://ec-media.soundcloud.com/nOGV3YdxVaIA.128.mp3?f10880d39085a94a0418a7ef69b03d522cd6dfee9399eeb9a522019f6bfabf3fa1507fb8f4c1c7664b20f98a253a4cf99c459385527def42fa82ef5f49968df33e2860fbc6&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJNIGGLK7XA7YZSNQ&Expires=1403421391&Signature=iHJ%2FXd9SWVqXYX%2FhuSBLM8ly0B0%3D 728311;1403421272;Vexual;yeah i got it, thanks 728312;1403421347;punkman1;makes me think of how I got no idea what some song is saying until I read the lyrics 728313;1403421370;Vexual;allow me 728314;1403421456;punkman1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8H2klXyhRs 728315;1403421457;assbot;Bad Joke [PARAZITII] - YouTube 728316;1403421748;Vexual;kennilworth on da mic 728317;1403421795;Vexual;thanks for the landcruisers 728318;1403421846;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyS9M8T03A following you home since forever 728319;1403421846;assbot;George Clinton - Atomic Dog - YouTube 728320;1403421960;punkman1;hello, this is dog 728321;1403422023;punkman1;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-K6yN4hEQ 728322;1403422023;assbot;Pueblo Cafe - Todo Mi Vida - HD - High Quality - YouTube 728323;1403422446;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 728324;1403422446;assbot;Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube 728325;1403422653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00080981 = 2.065 BTC [+] 728326;1403422731;punkman1;;;rate muXne 1 #b-a dj 728327;1403422733;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded. 728328;1403422759;Vexual;;;rate pynkman1 1 sexy wit da curses 728329;1403422760;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 728330;1403422783;Vexual;;;rate punkman1 sexy wit da curses 728331;1403422783;gribble;Error: 'sexy' is not a valid integer. 728332;1403422804;Vexual;;;rate punkman 1 sexy with curses 728333;1403422805;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded. 728334;1403422828;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn0li1q1O0 728335;1403422829;assbot;Siriusmo "Itchy / Cornerboy" - YouTube 728336;1403422984;Vexual;wait 728337;1403422991;Vexual;are you punkman? 728338;1403423014;Vexual;yes 728339;1403423021;Vexual;take it back to the shack 728340;1403423307;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc 728341;1403423307;assbot;Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube 728342;1403423447;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 69 @ 0.18968827 = 13.0885 BTC [-] {5} 728343;1403423903;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQYtAOSFEo 728344;1403423903;assbot;DJ Hell - Wonderland - YouTube 728345;1403424314;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtMl-uipA8 728346;1403424315;assbot;FKA twigs - Water Me - YouTube 728347;1403424343;Vexual;hehe 728348;1403424546;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aF9AJm0RFc 728349;1403424546;assbot;Johnny Cash - Hurt - YouTube 728350;1403424792;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-CpE73o2M 728351;1403424792;assbot;Fever Ray 'When I Grow Up' - YouTube 728352;1403424832;Vexual;as the sun comes up over latvia 728353;1403425339;benkay; not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date 728354;1403425509;benkay; someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. // there are some gems. some. 728355;1403425629;benkay;;;later tell Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k << never again 728356;1403425630;assbot;Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube 728357;1403425631;gribble;The operation succeeded. 728358;1403425947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.066 = 1.518 BTC [-] {2} 728359;1403426343;benkay; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 // la cumbia! 728360;1403426343;assbot;Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube 728361;1403426401;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014&bots=true#728328 // i take it back this is clearly our own dear Vexual 728362;1403426401;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 728363;1403426532;benkay; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc // i bet one or two of 'em is interested in becoming an actual sexopt 728364;1403426533;assbot;Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube 728365;1403426535;benkay;sexpot 728366;1403426679;benkay;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawlers_(band) 728367;1403426679;assbot;Nightcrawlers (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 728368;1403429485;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 602 @ 0.00229842 = 1.3836 BTC [+] {2} 728369;1403430584;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00087109 = 2.6568 BTC [+] 728370;1403432231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00087109 = 6.5332 BTC [+] 728371;1403432459;muXne;I forgot how to do it 728372;1403432485;Vexual;like dat? 728373;1403432539;Vexual;punkman u like lyrics? 728374;1403432659;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00087013 = 6.7 BTC [-] 728375;1403432688;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI check the date 728376;1403432688;assbot;Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain - YouTube 728377;1403433028;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMX1sc3eOTE 728378;1403433028;assbot;New York - Alicia Keys "Empire State of Mind" [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube 728379;1403433207;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10001 @ 0.00086986 = 8.6995 BTC [-] {2} 728380;1403433331;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500022 = 0.65 BTC [-] 728381;1403433573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0650001 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2} 728382;1403433695;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 728383;1403433695;assbot;Patience - YouTube 728384;1403434000;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10083 @ 0.00086686 = 8.7405 BTC [-] {2} 728385;1403434045;Vexual;moiety:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd9gpPifuU 728386;1403434367;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvy5TGLUls8 728387;1403434367;assbot;Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Set Up Shop - YouTube 728388;1403434718;Vexual;BLEND IT 728389;1403435140;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZmI3a-N-A 728390;1403435141;assbot;The Herbaliser - The Blend - YouTube 728391;1403435282;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06363571 = 0.8909 BTC [-] {4} 728392;1403435597;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZtyV1kGMY 728393;1403435597;assbot;Cypress Hill x Rusko - Can't Keep Me Down (Feat. Damian Marley) - YouTube 728394;1403435708;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06286572 = 6.2866 BTC [-] {11} 728395;1403435709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.0298998 = 1.495 BTC [+] {6} 728396;1403435881;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTGrfs5TXM dear reader, your war doesnt exist 728397;1403435881;assbot;War - Low Rider (HQ Audio) - YouTube 728398;1403435952;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03022011 = 1.511 BTC [+] {5} 728399;1403436356;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwXKJoKJz4 728400;1403436356;assbot;Kelis - Milkshake - YouTube 728401;1403436440;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06007957 = 1.1415 BTC [-] {6} 728402;1403436441;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1704 @ 0.00087075 = 1.4838 BTC [+] 728403;1403436867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0649999 = 1.495 BTC [+] 728404;1403436870;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbW1srpjZc hopper oz you thought deniro was a thing 728405;1403436870;assbot;AC/DC if you want blood + Hell Ride - Tribute - YouTube 728406;1403436929;Vexual;deniro is not a thing 728407;1403436947;fluffypony;http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-06-18-db00fab.png 728408;1403437222;Vexual;how goes the estonian tailors? 728409;1403437330;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.9544 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.57721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,589. 728410;1403438060;fluffypony;Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night 728411;1403438161;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_CEmybOjc 728412;1403438161;assbot;Easy Rider - Jack Nicholson, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper[Best quality] - YouTube 728413;1403438177;Vexual;i tried to go to hong kong 728414;1403438218;Vexual;demeanour fine famability too high 728415;1403438321;Vexual;i wont mentio the airline;i'm xhanging 728416;1403438387;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc 728417;1403438387;assbot;Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider - YouTube 728418;1403438612;Vexual;eat a dick kako https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo 728419;1403438612;assbot;Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube 728420;1403438682;Vexual;fine as in accepable 728421;1403438942;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrqA93sW-8 728422;1403438942;assbot;Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube 728423;1403439241;Azelphur;mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards 728424;1403439385;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE 728425;1403439385;assbot;Jennifer Lopez - Jenny from the Block - YouTube 728426;1403439551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00087085 = 9.5794 BTC [+] {2} 728427;1403439801;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wtncm2yzUE 728428;1403439801;assbot;Billy Bunks - Strumpets - YouTube 728429;1403439917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06479972 = 0.7776 BTC [-] {2} 728430;1403440148;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb_racnz08 728431;1403440149;assbot;Raw Aussie Hip-Hop with Cairns MC Wilba rapping live on Boom Bap FM - YouTube 728432;1403440161;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0008675 = 16.4825 BTC [-] {3} 728433;1403440649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26640 @ 0.0008725 = 23.2434 BTC [+] {3} 728434;1403440785;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwTj9rR0BYY 728435;1403440785;assbot;Hermitude - Ukiyo - YouTube 728436;1403441004;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeaIvjoH1FY 728437;1403441004;assbot;Flight Facilities - Crave You (Adventure Club Dubstep Remix) - YouTube 728438;1403441011;Vexual;sup TAT 728439;1403441015;ThickAsThieves;sup 728440;1403441031;Vexual;to adventure, and beyond 728441;1403441050;ThickAsThieves;mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=269740803 728442;1403441051;assbot;Steam Greenlight :: VoidSpace - The Dogecoin MMORPG 728443;1403441056;Vexual;how many kid would wanna be you?? 728444;1403441068;ThickAsThieves;kids don't even know about me 728445;1403441076;ThickAsThieves;it's how you stay cool 728446;1403441083;fluffypony;you're so hipster 728447;1403441086;Vexual;kids pick up on shit 728448;1403441118;fluffypony;werd 728449;1403441375;ThickAsThieves;flashback! http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/banana1015.com/files/2012/07/gngft.jpg 728450;1403441440;ThickAsThieves;intersting, i didnt know steam sold non-games, they also have the greenlight program for non-games too http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765§ion=software 728451;1403441441;assbot;Steam Greenlight 728452;1403441474;ThickAsThieves;mostly software you might use to make games... 728453;1403441542;ThickAsThieves;vexual, gimme a good song, nothing dubstep or redneck 728454;1403441553;Vexual;wait 728455;1403441564;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11A_lvcseo 728456;1403441564;assbot;Blondie - Call Me - YouTube 728457;1403441598;ThickAsThieves;hehe 728458;1403441618;Vexual;lofi 728459;1403441745;ThickAsThieves;it's weird to have such a rock song with no band in the video 728460;1403441774;ThickAsThieves;she's all pretending to be Aretha Franklin when she should be Joan Jetting 728461;1403441783;Vexual;the band is tied to the radiator back at he hotel 728462;1403441801;ThickAsThieves;i wonder how much coke she did that night 728463;1403441817;ThickAsThieves;she looks pretty drunk 728464;1403441838;Vexual;yeah i think shes on nubbins herbs 728465;1403441929;ThickAsThieves;this guy is drunk too "Yea, these are nice. I want the gold one but I will probably wait since bitcoins are way undervalued and gold is somewhat over valued in relation." 728466;1403441945;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0skjm-uJSs 728467;1403441945;assbot;Blondie - The Tide Is High - YouTube 728468;1403441970;ThickAsThieves;The uploader has not made this video available in your country. 728469;1403442002;Vexual;yeah ppYgrdJ0pWk 728470;1403442035;ThickAsThieves;I have 7 reddit karma! 728471;1403442070;xmj;I have 20! 728472;1403442082;xmj;My bad. 13. 728473;1403442093;Vexual;how to reddit? 728474;1403442100;ThickAsThieves;it's hard getting karma without agreeing with and pumping everything 728475;1403442113;xmj;ThickAsThieves: just post interesting links. 728476;1403442129;ThickAsThieves;for varying values of interesting... 728477;1403442297;xmj;well du 728478;1403442298;xmj;h 728479;1403442309;Vexual;pWhj4sVeVS0 728480;1403442348;Vexual;no? 728481;1403442376;ThickAsThieves;i dont speak that language 728482;1403442398;Vexual;pWhj4sVeVD0 728483;1403442400;xmj;Vexual: posted his root password into irc. let's hack him. his ip is 127.0.0.1 728484;1403442597;Vexual;10 tons of honey pot for fools xjm 728485;1403442601;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 133 @ 0.06000085 = 7.9801 BTC [-] {8} 728486;1403442632;xmj;Vexual: apologies. i'm mildly bored. 728487;1403442639;Vexual;comment things on your way past 728488;1403442662;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 488 @ 0.05333757 = 26.0287 BTC [-] {21} 728489;1403442664;Vexual;too late for that or you work in the garden 728490;1403442784;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00086529 = 2.5959 BTC [-] 728491;1403442914;Vexual;ill gibe you a tip var is called vex 728492;1403442951;Vexual;but your fail will cascade to fertiliser 728493;1403442975;Vexual;mext years limes if you care 728494;1403443065;mircea_popescu;lol hi there 728495;1403443079;Vexual;PBCJWJXeFzk 728496;1403443089;Vexual;hey 728497;1403443138;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if vexual could pass a turing test 728498;1403443200;Vexual;;;rate mircrea_popescu 1 sexy 728499;1403443200;gribble;Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. 728500;1403443214;Vexual;+d 728501;1403443305;Vexual;TAT o can't chess 728502;1403443334;Vexual;or see the kb 728503;1403443380;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves probably. turing test mostly verifies predictability. 728504;1403443401;Vexual;well thats a fail, bring it 728505;1403443451;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edwsf-8F3sI 728506;1403443451;assbot;Michael Bubl - Feeling Good [Official Music Video] - YouTube 728507;1403443455;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [+] 728508;1403443626;ThickAsThieves;it's interesting learning the signs of deception in stock TA articles, charts, etc, to try to influence the market to buy at tops, sell at bottoms 728509;1403443642;ThickAsThieves;you pretty much cant trust shit 728510;1403443680;Vexual;tat you know more about me than i do 728511;1403443681;mircea_popescu;exactly. 728512;1403443689;ThickAsThieves;like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/20/options-play-for-tapping-into-strength-of-netflix/ 728513;1403443690;assbot;Options Play For Tapping Into Strength Of Netflix - Forbes 728514;1403443712;ThickAsThieves;i thought it'd be an article saying NFLX is going down 728515;1403443720;ThickAsThieves;nope! 728516;1403443738;ThickAsThieves;it just double-topped and she says buy! 728517;1403443788;Vexual;i never knew netflix was tradable 728518;1403443789;mircea_popescu;you have to understand how propaganda works. 728519;1403443796;ThickAsThieves;i wonder how these things go IRL, like does her boss say "Please write a bullish NFLX article" 728520;1403443811;mircea_popescu;there's no such thing as english language free press. 728521;1403443844;mircea_popescu;no, generally it's not. goebbels didn't go "please write me a bullshit anti-jew speech again" 728522;1403443864;Vexual;meanwhile australia is rocking private trackers and not caring 728523;1403444075;Vexual;nrst belive im writing the bitcoin tax law too 728524;1403444083;ThickAsThieves;"Bitreserve’s tagline is ‘the end of bitcoin volatility’. " 728525;1403444156;mircea_popescu;what's bitreserve lol 728526;1403444175;Vexual;^ 728527;1403444188;mircea_popescu;o the cnet guy 728528;1403444189;mircea_popescu;ya ya. 728529;1403444223;mircea_popescu;read the guy's personal history sometime btw. it's quite instructive. 728530;1403444233;mircea_popescu;patron saint of all neobees. 728531;1403444253;Vexual;h,h,how to be cool? 728532;1403444265;ThickAsThieves;cnet never really seemed interesting to me 728533;1403444317;mircea_popescu;well basically guy sold out for about half a bn (back when us dollars were still worth something) 728534;1403444329;mircea_popescu;then went on a spending spree, which left him bankrupt last year. 728535;1403444344;ThickAsThieves;perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then 728536;1403444348;mircea_popescu;now he thinks himself a bitcoin expert, without having spent his year humbly reading here. 728537;1403444356;mircea_popescu;right. this can only end in tears. 728538;1403444372;mircea_popescu;"Bitreserve is Minors way to address the problems and opportunities he sees with Bitcoin. He says most people will never be comfortable holding the volatile digital currency" 728539;1403444381;ThickAsThieves;it irks me that bigger media now calls Ver Bitcoin Jesus 728540;1403444388;mircea_popescu;i mean think about it. so many sorts of wrong in so little space... 728541;1403444395;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves why ? 728542;1403444397;ThickAsThieves;too much irony for me 728543;1403444442;ThickAsThieves;i guess i need to stop caring about idiots that trust the media 728544;1403444448;mircea_popescu;i'll tell you, it's your emotional investment in said media, and more generally the notion that the whole establishment is a positive thing "taken together" that irks you. 728545;1403444468;mircea_popescu;it's an evil empire, chiefly because it's made by stupid people to promote wrongness and error. 728546;1403444571;ThickAsThieves;i guess itll at least yield drama fuel 728547;1403444576;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFprD6qIs 728548;1403444576;assbot;Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube 728549;1403444619;mircea_popescu;dubious. who cares about ver now that he's poor ? 728550;1403444636;ThickAsThieves;well the media will be happy to report his failures 728551;1403444655;ThickAsThieves;Bitcoin Jesus Crucified 728552;1403444665;mircea_popescu;im wondering if they have a pedo story in the drawer about him too. i wasn't able to find one. 728553;1403444685;ThickAsThieves;nah he has a real undertone of lack of confidence 728554;1403444691;ThickAsThieves;probly has micropenis or something 728555;1403444711;Vexual;fuck i spilled my shisky then 728556;1403444714;ThickAsThieves;i guess those are probly higher % pedos... 728557;1403444831;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpgwxfPfsw 728558;1403444831;assbot;If you like pina coladas - jimmy bufett Lyrics - YouTube 728559;1403444837;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 728560;1403444840;gribble;Current Blocks: 307218 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1229 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16646758858.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.65207 728561;1403444871;bitcoinpete;129 ph... 728562;1403444871;ThickAsThieves;wow 728563;1403444894;ThickAsThieves;i guess ASICMINER is delivering 728564;1403444896;Vexual;ph is so 2014 728565;1403444904;ThickAsThieves;Estimated Next Difficulty:16,947,623,526 (+25.89%) 728566;1403444922;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: knc too 728567;1403444945;mircea_popescu;and to cap the previous discussion : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Beckwith_James_Carroll_Portrait_of_Evelyn_Nesbitt.jpg 728568;1403444949;mircea_popescu;woman is 16 and a half. 728569;1403444960;mircea_popescu;o damn. 728570;1403444969;ThickAsThieves;http://bitbet.us/bet/783/bitcoin-incremental-difficulty-to-increase-by-3b-or/ 728571;1403444969;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 3.81 B (81%) on Yes, 0.87 B (19%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 47`543 (100`000 to 6`000) 728572;1403444974;ThickAsThieves;just got interesting 728573;1403444976;Vexual;recent pic? 728574;1403444980;mircea_popescu;ya srsly. 728575;1403444988;mircea_popescu;Vexual not more than coffee. 728576;1403444989;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 491.17953373 BTC. Current weight: 42,265. 728577;1403445083;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298nld4Yfds 728578;1403445083;assbot;Paul Simon - 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover + lyrics - YouTube 728579;1403445085;xmj;how fast is the rate of change? 728580;1403445104;Vexual;variable 728581;1403445121;xmj;approximately, per week 728582;1403445159;Vexual;difficulty? its a thing unto itself 728583;1403445177;Vexual;miners of ol' say price drives mining 728584;1403445186;Vexual;i say bitcoin is bunta 728585;1403445193;Vexual;;;ud bunta 728586;1403445194;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunta | The chief told the explorers they had two choices: death or bunta. The first, saying he has a wife and kids, easily chose bunta. The whole tribe bends him over ... 728587;1403445203;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: "On June 5th Friedcat's update mentioned the close to 60PH that was finishing up production. When asked how long that was from an inventory standpoint, he indicated 1 to 1.5 months from that day to sell everything plus the fiat to BTC conversion. 1.5 months from June 5th puts us around July 20th, a solid month from now." 728588;1403445209;ThickAsThieves;apparently it's pretty hard to make a bitbet that difficulty can't satisfy 728589;1403445210;bitcoinpete;from forumz 728590;1403445224;Vexual;bitbet gets scary close to diff 728591;1403445230;Vexual;months out 728592;1403445264;kakobrekla; bitbet gets scary close to diff < take an unimaginable number and it will end up scary close. 728593;1403445290;mircea_popescu;yup. 728594;1403445292;mircea_popescu;exactly. 728595;1403445298;ThickAsThieves;punkman should do another datamine: What if you bet .1 btc on Yes for all bets including "difficulty" and No for all others 728596;1403445320;ThickAsThieves;probly $1m 728597;1403445324;ThickAsThieves;hehe 728598;1403445337;mircea_popescu;lol 728599;1403445347;kakobrekla;nah, he just makes to make a bet that over next N bets the outcome will be positive 728600;1403445350;kakobrekla;and bet on that. 728601;1403445364;mircea_popescu;it's kinda funny, all these wanna-bes and have-beens trying to get involved into bitcoin with dysfunctional, nonsensical business models 728602;1403445370;[]bot;Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 86(Y):14(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.67721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,541. 728603;1403445385;mircea_popescu;when all they'd really need would be to forget all the wallets and whatnot and just you know, bet yes on this and no onthat 728604;1403445496;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEvh-DZ-kE 728605;1403445497;assbot;Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (HQ with lyrics) - YouTube 728606;1403445516;xmj;mircea_popescu: like those hedgefunds that put up bitcoin funds? 728607;1403445550;Vexual;everything is all 728608;1403445629;ThickAsThieves;“Cybercriminals acting in late 2013 installed a malicious computer program on the servers of a large hedge fund, crippling its high-speed trading strategy and sending information about its trades to unknown offsite computers.” 728609;1403445639;mircea_popescu;lol 728610;1403445644;Vexual;>>low speed 728611;1403445647;mircea_popescu;there you go asciilifeform 728612;1403445649;ThickAsThieves;Because of this systemic risk, the SEC recently announced it “will be conducting examinations of more than 50 registered broker-dealers and registered investment advisers, focusing on areas related to cybersecurity.” 728613;1403445653;mircea_popescu;and diametric. naggum was wrong. 728614;1403445663;ThickAsThieves;SEC gonna need a bigger boat 728615;1403445670;mircea_popescu;people doing "navy manuals" and whatever the fuck use decent software stacks for a limited time only. 728616;1403445671;Vexual;lol 728617;1403445682;mircea_popescu;in general, once corruption becomes fashionable, holdouts last ageneration or less. 728618;1403445753;mircea_popescu;and obviously, there's no prize for the people that ran safe stacks. there's a prize for those who didn't, who now get to a) bundle a lot of unrelated responmsibility and blame it on this known cause and b) ask for more money. 728619;1403445800;mircea_popescu;sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her. 728620;1403445863;mircea_popescu;in this sense, you don't want either democracy or strong government, because neither democracy nor strong government are capable of acting differently from the weak spirited but rich parent of an estranged daughter. 728621;1403445943;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: spot on analogy 728622;1403445962;bitcoinpete;"According to the analogy theory, it’s because making analogies requires thinking across traditional mental categories. In fact, some cognitive scientists have proposed that the farther the analogy—that is, the farther apart the previous experience and new situation—the more likely it will lead to a radically new idea." << hocus "science" but a point 728623;1403445968;bitcoinpete;http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/06/18/where-do-new-ideas-come-from/ 728624;1403445968;assbot;Where Do New Ideas Come From? – Phenomena: Only Human 728625;1403445989;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete there is something to the afieldness theory i think. 728626;1403446019;mircea_popescu;i certainly use a lot of sex analogies in work fields specifically because people [english speakers] so deliberately compartimentalise the two 728627;1403446037;mircea_popescu;it's a process much akin to inclusive franchise - more likely to yield better ballot results. 728628;1403446078;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00087778 = 8.8656 BTC [+] 728629;1403446086;bitcoinpete;it's definitely hard for native english speakers to come up with our own sex analogies 728630;1403446108;bitcoinpete;because of how compartmentalized all such notions are 728631;1403446118;mircea_popescu;nude workday ftw. 728632;1403446130;Vexual;i win 728633;1403446149;bitcoinpete;we understand them, just generate them with difficulty 728634;1403446159;bitcoinpete;i really shouldn't say "we" 728635;1403446167;mircea_popescu;yeah. 728636;1403446173;bitcoinpete;eh it's a skill to be worked on 728637;1403446175;mircea_popescu;english jesus pete :D 728638;1403446200;bitcoinpete;lol pete is already one of those bible doods 728639;1403446238;bitcoinpete;i've been using a lot more analogies in irl conversation since hanging out here 728640;1403446248;bitcoinpete;with pretty exceptional results 728641;1403446256;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAE8TOiZAs 728642;1403446257;assbot;Forest Swords - Thor's Stone (Lee 'Scratch' Perry Remix) - YouTube 728643;1403446267;mircea_popescu;watch out, you'rte gonna start picking up women and whatnot 728644;1403446283;bitcoinpete;you shoulda seen me at the club on friday night 728645;1403446286;bitcoinpete;lol 728646;1403446305;bitcoinpete;wife was in las vegas for a friend's birthday 728647;1403446305;mircea_popescu;(yes, it is my considered opinion that the one sine qua non condition for successful flirting is the device of analogy. anything else people insist upon, such as looking good, being funny, having money or w/e is piss) 728648;1403446333;bitcoinpete;analogies tie in to "being funny" 728649;1403446338;bitcoinpete;or they can 728650;1403446357;mircea_popescu;woman may enjoy to laugh, but proper analogy brings this innocent sense of wonder forth 728651;1403446367;mircea_popescu;which is how people fuck anyway. 728652;1403446383;bitcoinpete;at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden 728653;1403446390;mircea_popescu;mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories << werd. 728654;1403446443;bitcoinpete;so people fuck by analogy… 728655;1403446460;Vexual;carvel 728656;1403446474;Vexual;fit fucks 728657;1403446502;mircea_popescu;lol yeah 728658;1403446505;Vexual;the undeniable 728659;1403446526;mircea_popescu;punkman that's a direct (ie, word-for-word, idiom-blind) translation of a highly tensed romanian text. 728660;1403446532;mircea_popescu;basically, sung google translate. 728661;1403446601;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/480657179918499840 728662;1403446602;assbot;When I say 'most confused fan at the World Cup', I obviously mean after Columbian Nazi Weed Pope. Obviously. http://t.co/TXPVYcvHyo 728663;1403446647;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpugpzsQgus 728664;1403446647;assbot;kymani marley - warriors - YouTube 728665;1403446661;mircea_popescu;lol that's pretty good. 728666;1403446678;mircea_popescu;i doubt the guy's confused per se. looks more like, we're lulzy to him. 728667;1403446742;mircea_popescu;" In the next 2 days 18 indie bands in Shoreditch will name themselves Nazi Weed Pope." 728668;1403446752;thestringpuller;lol i had a dream about bitcoin-assets 728669;1403446770;mircea_popescu;benkay: not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ? 728670;1403446781;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller did it involve vigorous copulative movements ? 728671;1403446836;mircea_popescu;benkay: there are some gems. some. << well of course. but the guy didn't say "there's going to be A total knockout born somewhere in the US" 728672;1403446945;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dkfdZVcRCg 728673;1403446946;assbot;EEK A MOUSE BITTY BONG - YouTube 728674;1403446970;bitcoinpete;"It is highly unlikely that most Americans feel the current rise in prices as noise. Inflation has a way of eating into every penny that you have especially when the market is flooded with debt." 728675;1403446974;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: <<< well... "going to", anyway. 728676;1403446974;bitcoinpete;http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/message-from-yellen-let-them-eat-noise/ 728677;1403446974;assbot;Message From Yellen: Let Them Eat “Noise” | David Stockman's Contra Corner 728678;1403446982;punkman;ThickAsThieves: that gives an extra 0.23 BTC 728679;1403446989;punkman;mircea_popescu: who wrote it? 728680;1403446997;mircea_popescu;wrote what ? 728681;1403447018;mircea_popescu;don't say "it" to me like it means something bish!!! i'm eighteen lines deep 728682;1403447024;punkman;the tensed romanian text 728683;1403447029;mircea_popescu;oh. lessee 728684;1403447060;punkman;your "it" was the Bad Joke song, right? 728685;1403447116;mircea_popescu;ya 728686;1403447163;mircea_popescu;so it's mostly Cheloo (Cătălin Ștefan Ion), Ombladon (Bogdan Ionuț Păstacă) thyat write teh text thy play 728687;1403447358;mircea_popescu;most of the stuff they write is practically chinese (ie, doesn't follow romanian topic conventions (as in most latin languages you can order the words either plainly or meaningfully in romanian), they layer an abundance of cultured reference in between common metaphor (which is a process of significating that goes one step further than the idiom, roughly used to be known in english as conceit back before the us was a t 728688;1403447358;mircea_popescu;hing)) 728689;1403447368;mircea_popescu;and so trying to translate it mostly yields word salad 728690;1403447527;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete well she actually does have a point. the shreds of data people are making a big deal about are likely statistical noise. 728691;1403447539;mircea_popescu;the systemic problems however... nobody wants to talk about those. 728692;1403447679;mircea_popescu;lol that blondie vid is the tits. by her face you'd think she thinks she's singing inside a huge churning blender. 728693;1403447684;BingoBoingo;OMG a recipe for word salad, where's dotcoin? 728694;1403447692;Vexual;wait 728695;1403447720;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: myeah 728696;1403447797;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTp8rIK3nQ 728697;1403447798;assbot;Blondie 1975 A Girl Should Know Better CBGB. - YouTube 728698;1403447806;bitcoinpete;to use an analogy, fighting over a lifted toilet seat is easier than addressing the broken marriage 728699;1403447825;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxpe1oSp_sg << anyway, here's blondy back before she had fucked a truck and snorted a barge 728700;1403447825;assbot;Blondie - Heart of Glass 1979 Video TopPop stereo widescreen - YouTube 728701;1403447841;mircea_popescu;back when she had only fucked a regimen and snorted a pail 728702;1403447951;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-fabulous-baker-boys/ << the pfeiff plays something very akin to blondy in that. kickass filmn too 728703;1403447952;assbot;The Fabulous Baker Boys pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 728704;1403448142;penguirker;New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-one-more-cut-before-the-big-show/ 728705;1403448203;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 728706;1403448204;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 599.24, Best ask: 600.29, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 599.24, 24 hour volume: 4127.55171453, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 597.461641604 728707;1403448238;bitcoinpete;and i'm off to the course. ciao! 728708;1403448277;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG. 728709;1403448279;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self) 728710;1403448307;mircea_popescu;so he came ? 728711;1403448335;thestringpuller;^- was talking about the dream not RL 728712;1403448343;thestringpuller;(if that was directed at me) 728713;1403448350;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oDhuIPiTQ 728714;1403448350;assbot;Elizabeth Hurley and Patsy Kensit in "Kill Cruise" (1990) - YouTube 728715;1403448442;mircea_popescu;;;google pemphigus 728716;1403448443;gribble;International Pemphigus Pemphigoid Foundation | a common hope ...: ; Pemphigus Definition - Diseases and Conditions - Mayo Clinic: ; Pemphigus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 728717;1403448552;[]bot;Bet placed: 5.01 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.68721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,522. 728718;1403448620;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZqN_VFhdo 728719;1403448621;assbot;Daft Punk - Da Funk - YouTube 728720;1403448638;BingoBoingo;%book 728721;1403448640;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160 728722;1403448741;mircea_popescu;lol that thing was even odds for a while 728723;1403448741;Vexual;%diff 728724;1403448743;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 452941.55 in 146 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -36.68 728725;1403448765;Vexual;fuck 6 months 728726;1403448802;Vexual;:D 728727;1403448902;BingoBoingo;%ticker 728728;1403448903;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222 728729;1403449006;Vexual;mmmm, the other satoshi 728730;1403449043;Vexual;ican't belive it's not bitcoin 728731;1403449132;Vexual;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs 728732;1403449132;assbot;ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube 728733;1403449179;mircea_popescu;"A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found that 20% of heterosexual men had only one partner, 55% had two to twenty partners, and 25% had more than twenty partners." 728734;1403449210;xmj;mircea_popescu: des the study list the median? 728735;1403449211;mircea_popescu;those 5% lied and it's a neat 25-50-25 i bet 728736;1403449212;Vexual;and mp had a speadsheet 728737;1403449236;mircea_popescu;Vexual i have no idea how one can go through a lifetime and fuck less than a coupla dozen people. 728738;1403449249;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WGPF1R.txt ) 728739;1403449249;BingoBoingo;!b 4 728740;1403449256;mircea_popescu;for that matter, i don't know how one can go through highschool thus. 728741;1403449269;Vexual;i delete my logs weekly 728742;1403449275;mircea_popescu;but it'd prolly be pretty sad, rather frustrating and quite boring 728743;1403449332;Vexual;;;calc 18/23 728744;1403449333;gribble;0.782608695652 728745;1403449372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04963532 = 2.9285 BTC [-] {27} 728746;1403449471;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust muXne 728747;1403449472;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014 728748;1403449497;ThickAsThieves;fwiw the Bitcoin Foundation still hasn't provided the free membership they noted all Bitcoin2014 conference attendees would be eligible for 728749;1403449498;BingoBoingo;;;rate muXne Markov chain 728750;1403449498;gribble;Error: 'Markov' is not a valid integer. 728751;1403449508;ThickAsThieves;not that i want it 728752;1403449523;ThickAsThieves;but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting 728753;1403449531;Vexual;bastards. 728754;1403449555;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00087364 = 37.1297 BTC [-] {3} 728755;1403449582;mircea_popescu;uh. how would they provide it ? 728756;1403449606;Vexual;harry potter wand 728757;1403449686;Vexual;hermione touches you and youre in 728758;1403449720;ThickAsThieves;by making a account on their website of course 728759;1403449726;ThickAsThieves;maybe getting added to some email list 728760;1403449726;mircea_popescu;oh 728761;1403449742;ThickAsThieves;then i can bitch at them in their forum 728762;1403449746;mircea_popescu;i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list 728763;1403449756;ThickAsThieves;it 728764;1403449757;mircea_popescu;once you're on list X and they say list X got membership that's it, you got it 728765;1403449758;Vexual;i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane 728766;1403449761;ThickAsThieves;'s not really anything 728767;1403449789;ThickAsThieves;i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :( 728768;1403449805;mircea_popescu;lol so don't. 728769;1403449819;Vexual;i want my 3 bc back 728770;1403449828;ThickAsThieves;This Website is Not a Member 728771;1403449834;mircea_popescu;btw, do we have any earl of dorset/rochester / pre-"glorious" revolution experts in attendance ? 728772;1403449892;ThickAsThieves;no, that guy is busy filling out a survey about how many people he's slept with 728773;1403449922;mircea_popescu;lol wut 728774;1403449996;ThickAsThieves;sorry, vexual is contagious 728775;1403450035;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many privately retained vexual interpretation experts exist so far. 728776;1403450053;Vexual;im not one 728777;1403450056;mircea_popescu;i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer. 728778;1403450077;ThickAsThieves;<+Vexual> im not one /// ha! i was gonna day 'does Vexual count?' 728779;1403450081;Vexual;ive heard my trust clients are happy 728780;1403450107;mircea_popescu;he can't count, no. 728781;1403450128;Vexual;i can count 728782;1403450136;Vexual;for a minute or two 728783;1403450200;mircea_popescu;http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Texts/mankind.html btw 728784;1403450200;assbot;Rochester, "A Satyr against Reason and Mankind" 728785;1403450311;Vexual;i prefered the one about the crow in the swamp 728786;1403450356;Vexual;prettuer 728787;1403450742;Vexual;http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/lawson-henry/the-ballad-of-mabel-clare-0022053 728788;1403450744;assbot;The Ballad Of Mabel Clare - Henry Lawson - Poem - Australian Poetry Library 728789;1403450879;mircea_popescu;australian poet ? seriously ? 728790;1403450882;mircea_popescu;what is this, the future ? 728791;1403451011;Vexual;yeah they have to have a punchline 728792;1403451276;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 728793;1403451276;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.40505278 BTC; +0.42724399 BTC (+0.2484%) since last check 1d 23h 33m 35s ago. 728794;1403451353;mircea_popescu;look kako, jdice put mpif ahead. quick, do something! 728795;1403451460;kakobrekla;rm -rf wallet.dat 728796;1403451463;kakobrekla;ops wrong window. 728797;1403451561;mircea_popescu;lol 728798;1403451580;mircea_popescu;usagi backups ? 728799;1403451628;kakobrekla;no, i upgraded to no backup at all 728800;1403451651;mircea_popescu;;;google no pok 728801;1403451652;gribble;NO POK - YouTube: ; RK House - YouTube: ; No Pork At All - Seven years and comment is non-stop! - YouTube: 728802;1403451689;BingoBoingo;!up cowloon 728803;1403451776;asciilifeform;does somebody still have log gaps? i've got a nearly continuous ~90MB turd starting at oct. 2012 728804;1403451848;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform if you can cut off the part past 1st of may 2013, mthreat can prolly use more copies for coherence. 728805;1403451968;BingoBoingo;;;rate muXne 1 Markov chain 728806;1403451969;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded. 728807;1403451992;BingoBoingo;;;later tell moiety What did you do to the Dogers nao??? 728808;1403451993;gribble;The operation succeeded. 728809;1403452117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06192108 = 0.6192 BTC [+] 728810;1403452270;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 728811;1403452273;gribble;Current Blocks: 307234 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16615191009.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.41758 728812;1403452306;BingoBoingo;What... the... fuck! 728813;1403452377;mircea_popescu;ikr 728814;1403452388;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ba-turd.txt.gz 728815;1403452403;mircea_popescu;mthreat ^ 728816;1403452404;asciilifeform;^ note that my clock is set to american east time 728817;1403452407;mircea_popescu;danke 728818;1403452584;BingoBoingo;!up bocobit 728819;1403452600;*;asciilifeform realizes he did not perform the traditional 'year of lurk' 728820;1403452622;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition 728821;1403452663;asciilifeform;when did btca materialize anyway ? 728822;1403452712;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform roughly speaking april 2012. 728823;1403452725;mircea_popescu;but i only started using it seriously in august 728824;1403452788;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.77524885 BTC to 9`505 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 728825;1403452849;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00087 = 6.5624 BTC [-] {2} 728826;1403452971;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00086374 = 17.8794 BTC [-] {2} 728827;1403453209;dignork;Technocracy step I : http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1820&re=1 728828;1403453210;assbot;Shtetl-Optimized » Blog Archive » Eigenmorality 728829;1403453304;punkman;"So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject?  I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions.  The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how." 728830;1403453438;mircea_popescu;lmao 728831;1403453451;mircea_popescu;punkman who's this ? 728832;1403453461;punkman;dignork's link 728833;1403453473;mircea_popescu;o yea 728834;1403453481;mircea_popescu;dignork maybe suggest this chan to the author ? 728835;1403453504;dignork;I don't know him personally, will throw a comment 728836;1403453589;mircea_popescu;!up ak__ 728837;1403453600;mircea_popescu;incidentally his definition is both a) quite strong and b) what i actually use 728838;1403453611;mircea_popescu;the proposition that it's borne by history seems also quite defensible 728839;1403453647;BingoBoingo;http://oglaf.com/morality/ 728840;1403453648;assbot;Morality Play 728841;1403453653;BingoBoingo;http://oglaf.com/morality/ 728842;1403453653;assbot;Morality Play 728843;1403453786;mircea_popescu;lol funny fit 728844;1403453890;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press. << OMG Trilema's jig is up!!! 728845;1403453913;mircea_popescu;it's not teh press omg. 728846;1403454070;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05300003 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2} 728847;1403454130;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.053 = 1.325 BTC [-] {3} 728848;1403454559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10157 @ 0.00086735 = 8.8097 BTC [+] 728849;1403454587;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers 728850;1403454679;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.056 = 0.504 BTC [+] 728851;1403455040;mircea_popescu;"So for example, even if someone is unfailingly nice to you, if that person is an asshole to everyone else, then the eigenmoses moral code would demand that you return the persons cooperation with icy defection." 728852;1403455049;mircea_popescu;lol such bs. 728853;1403455054;mircea_popescu;the model needs ego. 728854;1403455136;mthreat;<+Azelphur> mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards << myeah that'd be great 728855;1403455142;ThickAsThieves;<+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers /// pretty pro, huh? 728856;1403455148;thestringpuller;lol everytime MPOE goes below 800000 there is a buying frenzy 728857;1403455150;mircea_popescu;yeah bro 728858;1403455167;thestringpuller;80000 sastoshi* 728859;1403455167;thestringpuller;ugh 728860;1403455177;mircea_popescu;Even though the measures acquit themselves well in this particular tournament, its admittedly easy to construct scenarios where the prescriptions of eigenjesus and eigenmoses alike violently diverge from most peoples moral intuitions. Weve already touched on a few such scenarios above (for example, are you really morally obligated to lick the boots of someone who kicks you, just because that person is a saint 728861;1403455177;mircea_popescu;to everyone other than you?). << dpends if you're aiming to lead or to follow. 728862;1403455203;mircea_popescu;does anyone feel like putting some work into python simulation ? 728863;1403455228;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05699475 = 0.6269 BTC [+] {2} 728864;1403455233;thestringpuller;python for simulations...? sound like it'll be running a long time... 728865;1403455262;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller academics, what do they know. 728866;1403455270;mircea_popescu;punkman1 what are you doing these days ? 728867;1403455330;ThickAsThieves;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28l0pf/most_blatant_extortion_ive_ever_seen_on/ 728868;1403455332;assbot;Most blatant extortion I've ever seen on localbitcoins.com forums : Bitcoin 728869;1403455543;dignork;ThickAsThieves: the guy obviously doesn't know that LBC trades are going through escrow, so he can only damage some ratings. That is, unless buyers are clinical idiots, and release funds first. 728870;1403455592;mircea_popescu;let's run through this dignork 728871;1403455595;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05699467 = 1.1399 BTC [-] {2} 728872;1403455635;mircea_popescu;you (D) want to buy LTC. Seller (S) and scammer (X) and escrow (E) are the other players. 728873;1403455660;mircea_popescu;d contacts x, x contacts s, sets up deal with e, obtains bank acct. 728874;1403455675;mircea_popescu;x sends bank acct to d, d pays to account, s receives it, s says so to e 728875;1403455678;mircea_popescu;e releases ltc to x 728876;1403455681;mircea_popescu;x disappears. 728877;1403455722;mircea_popescu;escrow deals are easily defeated by triangulation, which is why wot is still a thing where escrow is a noob toy. 728878;1403455731;mircea_popescu;rather than vice-versa. 728879;1403455742;dignork;x will have to show his escrow balance, otherwise d won't pay 728880;1403455759;mircea_popescu;d doesn't know to ask. 728881;1403455765;mircea_popescu;x has a multitude of ways to fake it, too. 728882;1403455777;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05592064 = 1.4539 BTC [-] {2} 728883;1403455836;dignork;this is d assumed to be an idiot, or x have non-trivial ability to impersonate e 728884;1403455867;mircea_popescu;both are true to sufficient degree for the practical needs of the swindle in question. 728885;1403455912;mircea_popescu;think of it, this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by the power rangers a) gave half a million btc to trendon shavers and then b) gave half a million btc to silk road 728886;1403455946;mircea_popescu;thus creating a one million btc headache for me and everyone else seriously comitted to making btc the end of western style government. 728887;1403455951;dignork;well, so e would be able to fight it in court, but e doesn't want to get into court in the first place, so yeah, it has some merits 728888;1403456048;benkay; perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then // bitcoin crucifixion 728889;1403456063;mircea_popescu;dignork for that matter, x can simply convey d's request for proof to e 728890;1403456067;mircea_popescu;e has to satisfy it. 728891;1403456072;mircea_popescu;x now can prove to d. 728892;1403456123;mircea_popescu;now how many "escrows" on the "market" have the sense to include a "Issued for use of X" thus defeating this mitm ? 728893;1403456137;mircea_popescu;yes, they have to be clinically brain injured, as you say. guess what ? they fucking are 728894;1403456144;mircea_popescu;and they think this is fine and "a community" 728895;1403456146;dignork;mircea_popescu: LBC can divert this attack, by making e submit bank details 728896;1403456149;mircea_popescu;and fuck you for being mean and dispariging them 728897;1403456192;dignork;then x won't be able to open a trading account with duplicate details 728898;1403456216;mircea_popescu;maybe 728899;1403456225;mircea_popescu;that's the most you get here, a sort of up and down and all around maybe. 728900;1403456254;mircea_popescu;and by now yuour defense has reduced to trying to implement a broken sort of wot anyway 728901;1403456418;dignork;it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache 728902;1403456476;asciilifeform;dignork: whenever you see a field where it seems as if 'cryptography never happened' - answer is always a misallocation of 'skin in game' 728903;1403456485;asciilifeform;e.g. bank doesn't eat the loss from fraud 728904;1403456486;benkay; sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her. // my favorite is the one who gets her own condo and a photo studio to play with and raise her kid in 728905;1403456512;mircea_popescu;hey, mine too. 728906;1403456677;mircea_popescu;dignork even if you take the banks out of it, the escrow model is still weak to distributed identity attacks 728907;1403456697;mircea_popescu;which is a degenerate form taken by sybil attack in the degenerate wot that escrow is 728908;1403456701;benkay;;;later tell bitcoinpete at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden // whence the startle? 728909;1403456702;gribble;The operation succeeded. 728910;1403456748;mircea_popescu;and for that matter, this scam has a history older than steam. entreprising young american fellows used to canvass old world ads for girls looking to marry, then forward the details to old rich american to pay for thepassage 728911;1403456754;mircea_popescu;and pick the girl up himself. 728912;1403456769;mircea_popescu;women being a... consumable commodity, which once consumed has very strong incentives to stick 728913;1403456804;asciilifeform;this scam will never die. every so often around here you hear of somebody caught stealing packages from doorsteps. same idea. 728914;1403456837;asciilifeform;the thief may or may not have 'insider' tip on who just ordered new laptop, gold bar, etc 728915;1403456842;mircea_popescu;and in principle, to make the point whole, for all those who wish the "good old days" were to return : they can not. they have been defeated in the field, through being weak to such things. 728916;1403456865;mircea_popescu;i know for one i would never marry in other way than through making some old fart pay for it thus, were i living in 1814 728917;1403456873;mircea_popescu;as a matter of principle. 728918;1403456963;mircea_popescu;and so you can't have any sort of "conservative morality" predicated on anything in the set of ("women not being sluts", "god fearing", "wealth and power by age rather than with and connection") 728919;1403456976;mircea_popescu;s/with/wit 728920;1403456981;punkman;mircea_popescu: yeah maybe I can do a simulation 728921;1403457002;asciilifeform;simulation of what ? 728922;1403457022;mircea_popescu;punkman i would be very interested to see what happens if someone were to take the guy;'s idea, clean all the crap off it, and then add what's missing. 728923;1403457047;mircea_popescu;by crap i mean, i suspect the academic used WAY TO FEW bots. use 100s of each type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar things. 728924;1403457058;asciilifeform;ah that 728925;1403457064;asciilifeform;;;google social learning tournament 728926;1403457066;gribble;Social Learning Strategies Tournament - The Laland Lab: ; Social Learning Strategies Tournament II - The Laland Lab: ; Social Learning Strategies Tournament | Facebook: (1 more message) 728927;1403457066;mircea_popescu;and by what's missing, i mean ego. the bots must consider themselves equally important to the whole world. 728928;1403457080;dignork;mircea_popescu: what kind of data do you want to use, current WoT is tiny 728929;1403457082;mircea_popescu;which is, if this switch can either kill me or kill the world, throwing it is even odds. 728930;1403457089;mircea_popescu;dignork random generated. 728931;1403457090;asciilifeform;(think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids') 728932;1403457124;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i recall we discussingsomething similar months ago 728933;1403457146;mircea_popescu;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=axelrod 728934;1403457147;assbot;axelrod 728935;1403457148;mircea_popescu;here we go 728936;1403457154;mircea_popescu;omfg i love mthreat 728937;1403457168;asciilifeform;the laland tourney is considerably more interesting imho 728938;1403457174;punkman;mircea_popescu, I'll give it a look, see how much I grok 728939;1403457223;mircea_popescu;works. 728940;1403457234;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform which one was that ? 728941;1403457244;mircea_popescu;punkman prolly also drop the guy a link to the logs 728942;1403457249;mircea_popescu;multiple sources can't hurt :p 728943;1403457305;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.055 = 2.145 BTC [-] 728944;1403457319;asciilifeform;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989663 728945;1403457320;assbot;Why Copy Others? Insights from the Social Learning Strategies Tournament 728946;1403457324;asciilifeform;^ paper on winners from Tourney 1 728947;1403457358;mircea_popescu;punkman also, the bs "nice" has to be thrown out, it's meaningless. just count who starts wars. 728948;1403457409;mircea_popescu;(which approach probably would improve the original paper a lot too, just re-do it but not counting totals, merely counting cases of backstabbing) 728949;1403457423;mircea_popescu;probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill 728950;1403457500;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the part i find the lulziest about these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in the field, defeated by hundreds if not thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies. 728951;1403457521;asciilifeform;the gods of spam - always win 728952;1403457534;mircea_popescu;it's almost as if being a scientist consisted entirely of beating the cheap boarding houses and asylums to select out of the pox ridden old hags "the paragons of beauty" 728953;1403457547;mircea_popescu;that perhaps they were, twenty years prior, back in their flap days 728954;1403457602;mircea_popescu;(for the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a testament to the traditional positive social view on tween prostitution) 728955;1403457603;asciilifeform;seniority-based structure will do that. 728956;1403457616;mircea_popescu;quite. 728957;1403457702;asciilifeform;obligatory: 728958;1403457704;asciilifeform;;;google tarver decline and fall 728959;1403457705;gribble;Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: ; my pdf copy: ; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: 728960;1403457729;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1943 @ 0.00087151 = 1.6933 BTC [+] 728961;1403457753;asciilifeform;'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity. These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music. And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles 728962;1403457753;asciilifeform;of these epics. First, the author rarely appears alone, sharing space with two or three others. Often the collaborators are Ph.D. students who are routinely doing most of the spade work on some low grant in the hope of climbing the greasy pole. Dividing the number of titles by the author's actual contribution probably reduces those hundred papers to twenty-five. Then looking at the titles themselves, you'll see 728963;1403457755;asciilifeform;that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.' 728964;1403457769;mircea_popescu;i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms". 728965;1403457782;benkay;"For wits are treated just like common whores: 728966;1403457783;benkay;First they're enjoyed, and then kicked out of doors." 728967;1403457799;mircea_popescu;how're enjoyin' the logs mr vulpes ? 728968;1403457971;mircea_popescu;lol derp goes right into how "they've won the scientific debate on climate change" 728969;1403457979;mircea_popescu;except "deniers make phony think tanks" 728970;1403458004;asciilifeform;where's this 728971;1403458020;mircea_popescu;same article above, with the bad model for evaluating bots. 728972;1403458036;mircea_popescu;by now im quite thankful for this entire global warming scam. it saves me so much reading. 728973;1403458077;asciilifeform;it's a scam of the desperation/starvation variety. armies of folks conned into burning their lives for 'degree' want to eat. 728974;1403458096;asciilifeform;want to stave off Butugychag. 728975;1403458165;mircea_popescu;in a sense their intuition is quite correct : the world is in fact ending. 728976;1403458189;mircea_popescu;just, their world isn't really THE world. but then again who knows this ever. 728977;1403458225;benkay;"Adore those shrines of virtue, homage pay, 728978;1403458225;benkay;And, with the rabble world, their laws obey. 728979;1403458225;benkay;If such there be, yet grant me this at least: [220] 728980;1403458226;benkay;Man differs more from man, than man from beast." 728981;1403458249;mircea_popescu;goatfuckers had a point all along huh 728982;1403458270;benkay;log challenge doesn't grow less with the ability to parse it quickly - now all the time saved reading quickly and ignoring the noise goes into reading the things herein linked. 728983;1403458292;benkay;particularly good reading today, mircea_popescu, ty to yourself and asciilifeform 728984;1403458297;benkay;and i think punkman 728985;1403458379;benkay;mmm. search engines. 728986;1403458393;mircea_popescu;i think the deal is kako gets the praise for the logs, 728987;1403458396;mircea_popescu;i just get the arguments 728988;1403458400;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00086331 = 16.0144 BTC [-] {2} 728989;1403458469;benkay;pfhah 728990;1403458471;mircea_popescu;ha! now this may be a good formalisation of the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all those guys trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya, that'll work..." 728991;1403458548;mthreat; btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results. 728992;1403458601;mircea_popescu;ah 728993;1403458607;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla what format would you want ? 728994;1403458623;thestringpuller;!mpif 728995;1403458624;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021754 BTC (Total: 435.09 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 728996;1403458627;mircea_popescu;mthreat the linking is particularly useful tho. is the crawl inefficient ? 728997;1403458645;mthreat;mircea_popescu: not really, it's pretty easy. 728998;1403458649;mircea_popescu;cool 728999;1403458665;mircea_popescu;past days don't change anyway so you do once a day as it were ? 729000;1403458690;mthreat;once Iset up the cron, yeah something like that :) Maybe twice a day, whatever. 729001;1403458730;mircea_popescu;cool. 729002;1403458732;benkay;this eigenmoses and eigenjesus stuff is interesting in that sir thomas moore follows the eigenjesus strategy 729003;1403458747;mircea_popescu;benkay how do you figure ? and it's more 729004;1403458751;mthreat;kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day 729005;1403458769;mthreat;if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work 729006;1403458827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0589999 = 1.711 BTC [+] {3} 729007;1403458828;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0008669 = 18.5517 BTC [+] 729008;1403458828;mircea_popescu;can just use negative 729009;1403458840;mircea_popescu;seems more... apt. 729010;1403458860;mthreat;heh... like 300 BC 729011;1403458867;mircea_popescu;yup 729012;1403458869;mthreat;we'll call it "BMT" before mthreat 729013;1403458874;mircea_popescu;hahaha 729014;1403458878;benkay;well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest 729015;1403458886;mircea_popescu;you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power. 729016;1403458893;benkay;"Imagine, for instance, that 98% of the players are unfailingly nice to each other, but unfailingly cruel to the remaining 2% (who they can recognize, let’s say, by their long noses or darker skin—some trivial feature like that). Meanwhile, the put-upon 2% return the favor by being nice to each other and mean to the 98%. Who, in this scenario, is moral, and who’s immoral? The mathematical verdict of both eigenmoses and eigenjesus is 729017;1403458893;benkay;unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable." 729018;1403458905;mircea_popescu;benkay you read what, the book ? saw the movie ? 729019;1403458916;benkay;i've only seen the movie. 729020;1403458922;benkay;i'm referring to the character in the play/movie. 729021;1403458927;mircea_popescu;yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king. 729022;1403458933;mircea_popescu;what do you mean "work against" ? 729023;1403458941;benkay;yeah, good question. 729024;1403458952;mircea_popescu;what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ? 729025;1403458953;benkay;i mean i need more coffee and a caning. 729026;1403458999;benkay;but if the sovereign is demonstrably immoral and god sayeth otherwise? 729027;1403459010;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00086261 = 4.3131 BTC [-] {2} 729028;1403459035;mircea_popescu;a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem 729029;1403459068;benkay;my loyalty is first to god - and then the king. 729030;1403459069;decimation;benkay: is that quote from the play? 729031;1403459086;benkay;decimation: my tortured imagination. 729032;1403459116;mircea_popescu;what quote 729033;1403459117;asciilifeform;bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc 729034;1403459136;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform except what is a cliff ? 729035;1403459147;benkay;divorce ;) 729036;1403459150;mircea_popescu;lol 729037;1403459190;mircea_popescu;the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects 729038;1403459205;mircea_popescu;this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot 729039;1403459216;mircea_popescu;there's very little difference between feudalism and escrow 729040;1403459224;mircea_popescu;in fact, feudalism is a means of working land held in escrow. 729041;1403459260;mircea_popescu;lemme try for proper english over here. 729042;1403459271;benkay;it boils down to he who may destroy is the sovereign? 729043;1403459276;mircea_popescu;loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes. 729044;1403459320;mircea_popescu;benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king 729045;1403459333;mircea_popescu;ie, once they get that schmuck to lie under oath and convict him of treason 729046;1403459346;decimation;indeed, giving those loyal subjects universal sufferage solves nothing 729047;1403459350;benkay;that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time. 729048;1403459363;mircea_popescu;no such thing is clear. 729049;1403459372;benkay;hm 729050;1403459408;decimation;that very point was the climax of the movie (man for all seasons) 729051;1403459428;kakobrekla;mthreat dunno, csv, mysql, what have you got ? 729052;1403459456;mircea_popescu;decimation nah, the climax was when he shows himself an eunuch 729053;1403459488;mthreat;kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end. 729054;1403459495;mircea_popescu;up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not. 729055;1403459506;mircea_popescu;mthreat ever got mine ? 729056;1403459510;mthreat;belgium beats russia 1-0 729057;1403459524;mthreat;mircea_popescu: yeah but asciilifeform's overlaps 729058;1403459537;mircea_popescu;mine starts earlier im pretty sure ? or not ? 729059;1403459547;kakobrekla;my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that. 729060;1403459551;mircea_popescu;ideally this should be done once and cover the whole shjebang 729061;1403459555;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla ship them to him ? 729062;1403459557;mthreat;yours only had march/april 2013 I think 729063;1403459568;mircea_popescu;2012. look again. 729064;1403459573;kakobrekla;but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it 729065;1403459588;mircea_popescu;and also ever got Azelphur's version ? 729066;1403459595;mthreat;mircea_popescu: not yet 729067;1403459596;kakobrekla;my logs are more work than worth 729068;1403459604;mircea_popescu;kako a ok 729069;1403459635;mthreat;kakobrekla: also you'll have to figure out how to number entries before your current entry #1 (April 26, 2013) 729070;1403459644;kakobrekla;into negative ofc 729071;1403459698;mircea_popescu;here's an interesting if unrelated point : what characteristic of classical english theatre, cca 1600s, was shared by both classical french and italian, but not ever since ? so that 99.x% of all good plays, all good actors and all good performances have this one thing in common, that's not been seen again ? 729072;1403459716;mircea_popescu;(and the same holds for opera) 729073;1403459793;decimation;exquisite set-making? 729074;1403459802;mircea_popescu;mnope 729075;1403459854;decimation;well, I don't have french or italian, but Shakspeare's plays were ... poetry 729076;1403459867;mircea_popescu;turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people. 729077;1403459883;mircea_popescu;consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast 729078;1403459896;mircea_popescu;and the audience knew the craft better than any debutante. 729079;1403459923;mircea_popescu;such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. 729080;1403460004;decimation;Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/ 729081;1403460005;assbot;Google Books 729082;1403460007;decimation;books?id=5OsNAQAAMAAJ 729083;1403460088;mircea_popescu;i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are 729084;1403460109;mircea_popescu;"lo and behold, we should be affraid that democracy is now in peril of falling out of the box and revoting cape horn" 729085;1403460147;decimation;the Patagonian cliffs care not for word-smithing and spinning 729086;1403460154;benkay;i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time. 729087;1403460176;mthreat;mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill. 729088;1403460210;mircea_popescu;benkay problem is that approach contradicts the "world peace" approach. not burn anytihng at hand but clothe and feed anyone at hand ? 729089;1403460211;decimation;one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous 729090;1403460218;mircea_popescu;would you rather have soot or shit ? 729091;1403460241;decimation;plutonium for me 729092;1403460243;mircea_popescu;mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ? 729093;1403460279;mircea_popescu;decimation no no, "we should tax everything and put the money into '''research'''" 729094;1403460297;mircea_popescu;only THAT is the correct way to solve all the world's p[roblems 729095;1403460337;mircea_popescu;in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice. 729096;1403460355;decimation;actually, at least one of the mice was probably on the cat's side 729097;1403460370;decimation;after all, it's better to have no humans at all than to have kulaks etc 729098;1403460372;mircea_popescu;yes. one of the mice was oi the cat's left side 729099;1403460375;mircea_popescu;while the other in the right 729100;1403460376;mthreat;mircea_popescu: yah you were correct. But as you said, your log has gaps, so hopefully Azelphur's logs are more complete. 729101;1403460384;mircea_popescu;hopefully ya 729102;1403460433;mircea_popescu;to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost. 729103;1403460456;mircea_popescu;let it not be said that irresponsible laziness has not made nice things 729104;1403460532;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu is one of those weirdos who actually turns his computer on and off ?! 729105;1403460538;mircea_popescu;yea 729106;1403460568;decimation;well, one can be certain of its state when power is not applied 729107;1403460575;mircea_popescu;^ 729108;1403460583;decimation;save wake-on-lan nastiness 729109;1403460590;mircea_popescu;no such thing 729110;1403460602;asciilifeform;someone actually uses wake on lan !?! 729111;1403460614;decimation;well, impi, remote access, all the same kind of thing 729112;1403460636;asciilifeform;who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ? 729113;1403460655;decimation;I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor 729114;1403460673;mircea_popescu;Instituto Mexicano de la Propiedad Industrial. Registre su marca hoy. 729115;1403460687;decimation;but yeah, not on a workstation 729116;1403460732;decimation;I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise 729117;1403460763;asciilifeform;i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus? 729118;1403460788;decimation;well, to me the major attraction beside the ip-kvm is the power cycle feature 729119;1403460800;decimation;but that can be had for even less money honestly 729120;1403460806;asciilifeform;the high-end kvm have power relays 729121;1403460849;decimation;interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh 729122;1403460871;asciilifeform;is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway 729123;1403460886;asciilifeform;e.g. whore with aids might as well contract syphilis 729124;1403460911;decimation;yeah you are right ascii, but you do realize that nearly all public and private entities in the US fall into that category 729125;1403461004;decimation;here's how the SEC put it: http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments 729126;1403461004;assbot;Investor Alert: Bitcoin and Other Virtual Currency-Related Investments | Investor.gov 729127;1403461012;decimation;"Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections." 729128;1403461055;decimation;why would you want to live outside the benevolent "protection" of USG? 729129;1403461126;decimation;honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin 729130;1403461365;thestringpuller;how would you even insure bitcoins and who would insure them? 729131;1403461376;thestringpuller;only MP has the capital to actually insure anyone... 729132;1403461384;thestringpuller;(insure anyone worht insuring) 729133;1403461427;mircea_popescu;nobody can insure bitcoin in the sipc/fdic sense, because nobody can print them. 729134;1403461445;mircea_popescu;that type of insurance is typical manufacturer insurance, "that the product be free of defects or replaced" 729135;1403461478;thestringpuller;what about the sense of car insurance? 729136;1403461490;mircea_popescu;and so in this sense, it's not that bitcoin isn't insured in that way. it's moreover that bank deposits etc aren't, and the continuance of the fraudulent pretense to the contrary promulgated by various usg agencies among which the sec above strictly depends on it not being needed. 729137;1403461540;thestringpuller;wow 729138;1403461542;thestringpuller;profound... 729139;1403461556;thestringpuller;(cause it's true) 729140;1403461867;decimation;mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing. "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian." 729141;1403461885;decimation;Don't use Bitcoin because we can't take it away from you, at our option 729142;1403461892;mircea_popescu;lol 729143;1403461923;mircea_popescu;but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option. 729144;1403461989;decimation;so to be clear, it used to be the case that in order for someone to seize "your" money, they had to show up at your house and take your physical coins 729145;1403462013;mircea_popescu;!up nerdfiles 729146;1403462049;mircea_popescu;well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill. 729147;1403462060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05527325 = 2.7637 BTC [-] {7} 729148;1403462279;decimation;lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!" 729149;1403462366;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19735993 = 0.9868 BTC [+] {3} 729150;1403462392;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 729151;1403462394;gribble;Current Blocks: 307250 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1197 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16522880011.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.7319 729152;1403462482;mircea_popescu;decimation and so they have modified themselves. no man living with carlyle would regard the average existence of today's westerner as anything but the most abject imprisonment 729153;1403462494;thestringpuller;;;gettrust casascius 729154;1403462494;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user casascius: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=casascius | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=casascius | Rated since: Fri May 13 00:14:25 2011 729155;1403462503;mircea_popescu;so... they've modified themselves, to take more cock with less fretting. 729156;1403464306;moiety;;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40 729157;1403464307;gribble;The operation succeeded. 729158;1403464406;mircea_popescu;wait wut 729159;1403464423;moiety;i upset the doge people last night 729160;1403464500;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0586998 = 0.6457 BTC [+] 729161;1403464791;benkay; cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 56 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0003. 24 hr volume: 310 megadoge 729162;1403464837;benkay;http://celiabasto.tumblr.com/post/88217340700 729163;1403464837;assbot;celia basto | 100% art | 100% ART 729164;1403464875;punkman;let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ 729165;1403464876;assbot;extemporized 729166;1403465050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00087187 = 13.5576 BTC [+] {2} 729167;1403465204;chetty;moiety: don't you know women are not allowed to curse 729168;1403465598;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0586999 = 0.7631 BTC [-] 729169;1403465686;kakobrekla;;;later tell vexual log would be better off without your jewtube links. 729170;1403465686;gribble;The operation succeeded. 729171;1403465696;moiety;chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots 729172;1403465964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.0586999 = 1.5262 BTC [-] 729173;1403466142;penguirker;New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/introducing-bitbet-py/ 729174;1403466143;penguirker;New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/hello-world/ 729175;1403466165;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs 729176;1403466243;FabianB;mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there 729177;1403466271;mircea_popescu;FabianB kk 729178;1403466285;mircea_popescu; let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? 729179;1403466285;assbot;extemporized 729180;1403466293;ThickAsThieves;sweet 729181;1403466316;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves the smaller it gets, the harder it is to say 729182;1403466330;mircea_popescu;"democracy" as practiced among a hundred that know each other is no democracy anyway 729183;1403466403;ThickAsThieves;understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large 729184;1403466434;ThickAsThieves;i also wonder if age is a factor as well 729185;1403466449;ThickAsThieves;probably on a curve 729186;1403466616;chetty;ThickAsThieves,avg life in the time frame was short, if you lived very long you likely had more wisdom (which is why you lived) 729187;1403466689;ThickAsThieves;i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever 729188;1403466692;chetty;not sure age counts for much anymore 729189;1403466697;ThickAsThieves;age of the group 729190;1403466700;ThickAsThieves;not the individual 729191;1403466712;ThickAsThieves;maybe inextricable 729192;1403466787;chetty;I think closed is kinda relative tho, more like the semi-permeable membrane 729193;1403466859;ThickAsThieves;like #b-a 729194;1403466980;chetty;exactly 729195;1403467091;chetty;http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JURORS_SOCIAL_MEDIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-22-11-58-35 729196;1403467091;assbot;News from The Associated Press 729197;1403467672;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00086737 = 1.4312 BTC [-] 729198;1403468071;ThickAsThieves;http://btcoracle.com/index.php is this OneFixt? 729199;1403468072;assbot;BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading 729200;1403468089;ThickAsThieves;!up OneFixt 729201;1403468114;OneFixt;yup 729202;1403468123;OneFixt;wait, no 729203;1403468130;ThickAsThieves;lol 729204;1403468130;OneFixt;not me, misread 729205;1403468134;OneFixt;lol 729206;1403468149;ThickAsThieves;good to know 729207;1403468195;*;ThickAsThieves kinda misses btc options 729208;1403468395;ThickAsThieves;coindesk has to articles about people offering bitcoin options, neither mentions mpex 729209;1403468713;mircea_popescu;well it doesn't offer them anymore 729210;1403468744;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm. the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large. 729211;1403469049;Mats_cd03;i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize 729212;1403469075;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00086529 = 35.6499 BTC [-] {3} 729213;1403469080;mircea_popescu;there's little incentive for it yet. 729214;1403469085;ThickAsThieves;look at that boner https://icbit.se/WebTrade/Trading.aspx 729215;1403469085;assbot;ICBIT Web Trading 729216;1403469250;mircea_popescu;OneFixt you got teh logs ? 729217;1403469298;OneFixt;which logs? 729218;1403469304;mircea_popescu;of here. 729219;1403469312;OneFixt;some, why? 729220;1403469326;mircea_popescu;ah. well we're trying to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013 729221;1403469336;mircea_popescu;if you got usable stuff dump to mthreat 729222;1403469342;OneFixt;ah 729223;1403469354;OneFixt;mine is not at all easy to dump unfortunately 729224;1403469381;mircea_popescu;kay. 729225;1403469382;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 729226;1403469385;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.1, Best ask: 598.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.05000, Last trade: 598.15, 24 hour volume: 4096.67247212, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 598.315804175 729227;1403469593;FabianB;$traded 729228;1403469593;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 729229;1403471242;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/unii-sunt-putin-luati-da-altii-saracii-sunt-luati-rau-de-tot-mai-frate/ 729230;1403471461;[]bot;Bet created: "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/ 729231;1403471659;[]bot;Bet created: "Facebook stock to close at over $70 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/957/ 729232;1403471698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00086276 = 5.4785 BTC [-] 729233;1403471719;Namworld;Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago. 729234;1403471733;mthreat;split 7-to-1 729235;1403471857;[]bot;Bet created: "Haruki Murakami to win lit Nobel" http://bitbet.us/bet/958/ 729236;1403472918;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0560047 = 0.56 BTC [+] 729237;1403472936;mthreat;mircea_popescu: have you managed to find good pizza in this town? 729238;1403472970;mircea_popescu;mthreat american good pizza or romanian good pizza ? 729239;1403472979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05597559 = 1.1195 BTC [-] {3} 729240;1403473032;mthreat;mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza 729241;1403473042;mthreat;#1, HAS tomato sauce 729242;1403473052;mircea_popescu;it's kjinda it's own thing. imo better than italian. 729243;1403473070;mthreat;here it's mostly bread and cheese 729244;1403473071;mircea_popescu;anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D 729245;1403473093;mthreat;magic 729246;1403473123;mircea_popescu;but yes, tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on 729247;1403473233;punkman;mircea_popescu: let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? << yes 729248;1403473233;assbot;extemporized 729249;1403473248;punkman;I think I should make a special feed for penguin though 729250;1403473273;mircea_popescu;seems it picks it up jus' fine 729251;1403473283;punkman;lest there be two dozen recipes posted one day 729252;1403473371;punkman;did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog 729253;1403473404;mircea_popescu;nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@! 729254;1403473773;mthreat;There was this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was called "Dracula". 729255;1403473801;[]bot;Bet created: "Anyone other than Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez to win the 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or" http://bitbet.us/bet/959/ 729256;1403473940;mircea_popescu;surprisingly. 729257;1403473987;punkman;so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions? 729258;1403473989;assbot;Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books 729259;1403474009;punkman;"upon the time" ftw 729260;1403474035;punkman;feeling russian 729261;1403474036;mircea_popescu;punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all the math one could ever want. 729262;1403474050;mircea_popescu;if it doesn't DO something it's not math anyway. 729263;1403474058;asciilifeform;punkman: 'All the Mathematics You Missed' (Garrity) if impatient/american 729264;1403474063;asciilifeform;punkman: otherwise what mircea_popescu said 729265;1403474096;mircea_popescu;wow someone agrees ?! 729266;1403474103;mircea_popescu;i thought that's like, my most heretic view. 729267;1403474112;asciilifeform;the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text 729268;1403474125;asciilifeform;i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers 729269;1403474157;asciilifeform;also ask yourself, which mathematics 729270;1403474168;punkman;this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_of_Theoretical_Physics ? 729271;1403474168;assbot;Course of Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 729272;1403474180;asciilifeform;l&l is geared to methods of theoretical physics (landau's famous 'minimum' exam) 729273;1403474468;asciilifeform;punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman 729274;1403474478;asciilifeform;http://faraday.fie.umich.mx/~rrusiles/Fie/Horizontal/Hopcroft_Introduction_to_Automata_Theory_Languages_and_Computation.pdf 729275;1403474488;asciilifeform;^ unfortunately not the edition with the hot chick on the cover 729276;1403474490;asciilifeform;but full text 729277;1403474871;punkman;mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now 729278;1403474931;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05300046 = 0.583 BTC [-] {4} 729279;1403474938;punkman;I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/ 729280;1403475276;thestringpuller;punkman: bitbet.py is dope 729281;1403475277;Mats_cd03;http://econbrowser.com/archives/2014/06/iraq-oil-markets-and-the-u-s-economy 729282;1403475277;assbot;Iraq, oil markets, and the U.S. economy | Econbrowser 729283;1403475282;thestringpuller;I'll have to see how you did colorization 729284;1403475336;Mats_cd03;and... http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/3-reasons-Iraq-conflict-isn-t-driving-up-gas-5569945.php 729285;1403475337;assbot;3 reasons Iraq conflict isn't driving up gas prices (yet) - SFGate 729286;1403475883;mircea_popescu;punkman that is a point 729287;1403475892;mircea_popescu;by now the research paper journals are little more than blogs anyway. 729288;1403475968;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.01735 = 1.3533 BTC [-] 729289;1403475993;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public, 729290;1403476012;mircea_popescu;on it goes. 5 reasons why fucking up is okay and starvation isn't imminent. 729291;1403476334;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8353 @ 0.00085902 = 7.1754 BTC [-] 729292;1403476525;thestringpuller;5 conspiracy theories that are actually real 729293;1403476528;thestringpuller;more at 11 729294;1403477048;punkman;heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while." 729295;1403477066;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05699603 = 1.1969 BTC [+] {2} 729296;1403478732;decimation;thanks for the book asciilifeform 729297;1403480996;BingoBoingo;%diff 729298;1403480998;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 450695.27 in 113 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.00 729299;1403481153;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00084838 = 28.2171 BTC [-] {2} 729300;1403481176;punkman;BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet 729301;1403481218;BingoBoingo;punkman: Yeah, it's going to be tricky. Wonder how much hash is going to arrive after the diff change 729302;1403481249;mircea_popescu;;;calc 24 * 3600 / 512 729303;1403481249;gribble;168.75 729304;1403481303;punkman;so we must be doing like 100 a day now? 729305;1403481336;mircea_popescu;;;calc 168.75 * .63 729306;1403481336;gribble;106.3125 729307;1403481614;punkman;mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop. 729308;1403481665;mircea_popescu;so make 400 bots, 20 of each type, meet everyone 500 times and play for n where the probability is .95 729309;1403481682;Mats_cd03;mircea_popescu: forgot the '(yet)'. 729310;1403481685;mircea_popescu;0.995 is bullshit, 200 rounds average ? wtf. 729311;1403481707;mircea_popescu;but, importantly, give them ego. 729312;1403481746;punkman;if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it 729313;1403481746;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 729314;1403481749;gribble;Current Blocks: 307282 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1165 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16351547351.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45924 729315;1403481753;mircea_popescu;let's. 729316;1403481773;punkman;examples: https://github.com/tscizzle/IPD_Morality/blob/master/the_bots.py 729317;1403481774;assbot;IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master tscizzle/IPD_Morality GitHub 729318;1403481777;mircea_popescu;specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot. 729319;1403481798;mircea_popescu;b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type 729320;1403481814;mircea_popescu;c) each bot has idem 0 to 20 of their type and also 0 to 5 of all types. 729321;1403481832;mircea_popescu;all bots know the adversary's hitory with themselves 729322;1403481855;mircea_popescu;now, on this information, each both has an ego, defined as the balance between the weight they give their own history vs the collected world history 729323;1403481911;mircea_popescu;a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego. 729324;1403481925;mircea_popescu;the bot that only cares of its own history has max, and the bot that ignores its own has min. 729325;1403481929;mircea_popescu;these are also per-bot factors 729326;1403481931;mircea_popescu;then let them play. 729327;1403481966;asciilifeform;just one thing missing here 729328;1403481972;asciilifeform;what's a tourney without... a prize. 729329;1403481986;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform the prize is their life. 729330;1403481992;asciilifeform;lol 729331;1403481992;Mats_cd03;lol. 729332;1403482007;punkman;they get bigger number when they win 729333;1403482010;punkman;they like number 729334;1403482014;mircea_popescu;lol 729335;1403482035;mircea_popescu;and srlsly, ditch the dumbass "total wot score" model they use 729336;1403482038;mircea_popescu;just count betrayals. 729337;1403482058;mircea_popescu;how people pretending to be in math and philosophy can be this fucking dumb is beyond me. 729338;1403482074;mircea_popescu;next they're going to count the holes in the mains socket to get the voltage. 729339;1403482091;punkman;the bots only know past moves during the current round as it is 729340;1403482106;mircea_popescu;yes but from what i've seen, as a sum 729341;1403482117;mircea_popescu;not as the all-crucial "he y'd you you n'd him" 729342;1403482118;punkman;no it's a list of all previous moves 729343;1403482156;mircea_popescu;a is it ? 729344;1403482166;mircea_popescu;that's ok then 729345;1403482178;punkman;(in the current round) 729346;1403482193;punkman;no knowledge about world/environment 729347;1403482197;mircea_popescu;not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart 729348;1403482208;mircea_popescu;you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one 729349;1403482261;mircea_popescu;After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu 729350;1403482262;mircea_popescu;dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term. It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students. 729351;1403482385;punkman;" should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account." 729352;1403482405;punkman;"TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy." 729353;1403482453;mircea_popescu;moves can be used as a ticker 729354;1403482456;mircea_popescu;todo seems spurious. 729355;1403482867;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: other screeds by tarver: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog 729356;1403482867;assbot;Popular Essays 729357;1403482917;mircea_popescu;If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. 729358;1403482921;mircea_popescu;i actually read this before. 729359;1403482923;punkman;I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant 729360;1403482927;punkman;*fork 729361;1403482927;asciilifeform;^ tarver does not shit gold, not all necessarily worth reading 729362;1403482951;mircea_popescu;punkman not bad. ICBE 729363;1403482957;mircea_popescu;soon you'll get investors. 729364;1403482960;punkman;from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag." 729365;1403483001;mircea_popescu;punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares. 729366;1403483036;punkman;yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament 729367;1403483059;mircea_popescu;punkman for that matter, let people handpick lol 729368;1403483065;mircea_popescu;human bot impersonators, that's epic 729369;1403483140;mircea_popescu;hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie. 729370;1403483145;mircea_popescu;this, quite very much. 729371;1403483156;mircea_popescu;western women aspire to the respect of men, while living their western lives ?! lolk. 729372;1403483166;mircea_popescu;i'd rather respect indian hajira. 729373;1403483349;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.05201126 = 1.9764 BTC [+] 729374;1403483471;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05201145 = 0.5201 BTC [+] 729375;1403483516;asciilifeform;from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html 729376;1403483519;assbot;A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types 729377;1403483575;mircea_popescu;"et in arcadia ego" dumbass. 729378;1403483613;asciilifeform;shoddy troll is shoddy, 'longcat is long,' news at 11 729379;1403483648;mircea_popescu;no dude. legolas, definiely legit. 729380;1403483653;mircea_popescu;- I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I dont know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thors Hammer on it. 729381;1403483657;mircea_popescu;should be on reddit. 729382;1403483670;asciilifeform;(some weirdo actually sent me the link) 729383;1403483718;mircea_popescu;" The Dark Enlightenment allegedly has millions of dollars of money to play with." 729384;1403483719;mircea_popescu;orly. 729385;1403483725;mircea_popescu;what, like almost 1k btc ? 729386;1403483734;asciilifeform;i think that was meant to imply mr. thiel 729387;1403483745;mircea_popescu;Different forms of formal attire were required for each day (tuxedos, 3-piece suits, etc) 729388;1403483746;mircea_popescu;dude! 729389;1403483752;mircea_popescu;ah this is great lol 729390;1403483755;asciilifeform;('island' - obvious tipoff) 729391;1403483784;mircea_popescu;"For the initial oath taking, everyone must swear on a copy of Darwins Origin of Species, just to show their fidelity to HBD" 729392;1403483787;asciilifeform;(thiel actually exists, is said to hang out with 'moldbuggerers') 729393;1403483792;mircea_popescu;ahgagaga wait, wait what 729394;1403483821;punkman;I put on my robe and wizard hat 729395;1403483823;mircea_popescu;i keep waiting for the biscuit already 729396;1403483838;mircea_popescu;they're doing the sweaing on the ilyad and drinking out of specially made pornoi cups 729397;1403483865;mircea_popescu;- They also have all their own secret handshakes, and their own terminology [like the Cathedral ("political correctness"), thedening ("re-establishing ethnic group identity"), genophilia ("love of one's own race"), NRx ("neoreaction"), etc.]. 729398;1403483917;mircea_popescu;well i guess we gotta ipo it now 729399;1403483940;mircea_popescu;"But of course, cannibalism is not PC either and embracing something simply and solely on the basis that it is a reaction is one of the stupidest things humans can do. You cant build a life on protest and reaction." <<< ahahaha 729400;1403483954;mircea_popescu;the entire fucking left is built on reaction, from the 60s onwards. 729401;1403483968;mircea_popescu;i would guess that yeah, you can't. 729402;1403484183;BingoBoingo;%ticker 729403;1403484185;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222 729404;1403484193;BingoBoingo;%bok 729405;1403484198;BingoBoingo;%b 729406;1403484206;BingoBoingo;%book 729407;1403484207;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 729408;1403484246;moiety;i sensed biscuits. i should have an IPO of bear biscuits 729409;1403484273;mircea_popescu;moiety you can't possibly be privy to what i meant by biscuits ?! 729410;1403484286;moiety;i don't think i am at all 729411;1403484309;moiety;hence my leaps to shortbread in bear form 729412;1403484358;mircea_popescu;ah yeah. 729413;1403484362;mircea_popescu;;;google cum biscuit 729414;1403484362;gribble;Soggy biscuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Urban Dictionary: cum biscuit: ; Urban Dictionary: soggy biscuit: 729415;1403484371;moiety;oh! 729416;1403484379;moiety;well then, i'll be shutting up now 729417;1403484405;mircea_popescu;lol 729418;1403484443;mircea_popescu;anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way. 729419;1403484447;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008496 = 4.5454 BTC [+] 729420;1403485148;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 729421;1403485150;gribble;Current Blocks: 307288 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16357998925.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.50716 729422;1403485179;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0008431 = 34.82 BTC [-] {3} 729423;1403485240;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.05037493 = 2.1157 BTC [-] {9} 729424;1403485423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.04647775 = 2.9281 BTC [-] {14} 729425;1403485537;moiety;!up chax 729426;1403485542;moiety;hello 729427;1403485546;chax;Howdy! 729428;1403485565;moiety;:] what brings you here? 729429;1403485663;moiety;lol kbai 729430;1403485673;benkay;chax is working on a bitcoin-api-as-a-service thinger 729431;1403485700;moiety;!up chax thought i scared you there XD 729432;1403485716;moiety;thanks benkay 729433;1403485818;benkay;hey chax 729434;1403485830;benkay;slow sunday? 729435;1403486052;Mats_cd03;:( 729436;1403486063;benkay;such connection issues... 729437;1403486075;benkay;and from a SaaS vendor rep... 729438;1403486180;Mats_cd03;that title seems premature 729439;1403486217;Mats_cd03;is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today 729440;1403486234;benkay;wallet api? 729441;1403486240;benkay;nah 729442;1403486242;benkay;don't think so 729443;1403486460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04105652 = 0.9443 BTC [-] {7} 729444;1403487253;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04056994 = 0.6085 BTC [-] 729445;1403487304;moiety;i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along 729446;1403487393;moiety;have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour 729447;1403487433;benkay;miserable. 729448;1403487458;kakobrekla;bnc 729449;1403487460;Mats_cd03;use a bouncer. 729450;1403487485;Mats_cd03;or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud 729451;1403487665;kakobrekla;yeah, you also get a nice free nsa backups with that 729452;1403487817;mircea_popescu;!up Yoko__ 729453;1403488190;moiety;i thoughti had a bouncer built in with this and thats why i didnt timeout, will investigate 729454;1403488534;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.035793 = 1.7897 BTC [-] {6} 729455;1403489083;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.035 = 1.505 BTC [-] 729456;1403489205;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082942 = 8.0039 BTC [-] 729457;1403489205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.033 = 5.115 BTC [-] {4} 729458;1403489266;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03283 = 3.283 BTC [-] 729459;1403489388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00082811 = 20.6199 BTC [-] 729460;1403489571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02200002 = 0.836 BTC [-] {7} 729461;1403489632;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.022 = 1.122 BTC [-] {4} 729462;1403489693;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.02131429 = 0.746 BTC [-] {2} 729463;1403489698;thestringpuller;;;ud cray 729464;1403489699;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray | No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets people going. 729465;1403489754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.02775205 = 0.7771 BTC [-] {9} 729466;1403490071;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :( 729467;1403490106;mircea_popescu;maybe. 729468;1403490156;thestringpuller;maybe is better than never lol 729469;1403490983;benkay;gotta have a price signal first 729470;1403491381;thestringpuller;should just open up an exchange in antarctica 729471;1403491391;thestringpuller;or on the moon 729472;1403492055;moiety;i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually 729473;1403492090;Mats_cd03;http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg 729474;1403492560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081766 = 13.0826 BTC [-] 729475;1403492597;benkay;tardigrade, but close 729476;1403492606;benkay;tardi gribble 729477;1403492607;benkay;late bots 729478;1403493214;moiety;ergh! Mats_cd03! ok so maybe not that one, he looks angry! imeant this one http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01247/gribble_1247958c.jpg 729479;1403493257;moiety;!up extra 729480;1403493262;moiety;!up pennies 729481;1403493265;moiety;!up Lycerion 729482;1403493269;extra;thanks 729483;1403493270;pennies;thank you 729484;1403493278;moiety;you're welcome :] 729485;1403493293;Lycerion;thanks 729486;1403493348;moiety;np :] welcome to -assets? 729487;1403493353;moiety;assets* 729488;1403493385;moiety;what do you do? 729489;1403493436;extra;mostly lose money trading 729490;1403493533;assbot;Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/09JVD4A.txt ) 729491;1403493533;benkay;!b 2 729492;1403493550;benkay;;;gettrust extra 729493;1403493551;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user extra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=extra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=extra | Rated since: never 729494;1403493554;pennies;so what is this place? 729495;1403493572;benkay;a house of ill repute 729496;1403493584;pennies;i want to be apart of this lovely place 729497;1403493591;pennies;i am a seeker of lovely places 729498;1403493642;benkay;;;ident pennies 729499;1403493642;gribble;Nick 'pennies', with hostmask 'pennies!423790bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.55.144.187', is not identified. 729500;1403493656;benkay;i don't think apart means what you think it means, pennies 729501;1403493671;pennies;why? 729502;1403493704;benkay;well if one is apart from a thing one is not a part of it 729503;1403493714;benkay;;;google define apart 729504;1403493715;gribble;Apart | Define Apart at Dictionary.com: ; Apart - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; Apart from - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: 729505;1403493744;benkay;to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride. 729506;1403493779;benkay;but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust 729507;1403493794;benkay;;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust 729508;1403493794;gribble;#bitcoin-otc web of trust: ; #bitcoin-otc: ; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: 729509;1403494021;pennies;i feel unwanted 729510;1403494168;Mats_cd03;benkay is a semantic asshole, don't take it personally 729511;1403494183;benkay;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mashed-potato-spillage-closes-yorkshire-road-for-five-hours-9554812.html 729512;1403494183;assbot;Mashed potato spillage closes Yorkshire road for five hours - Home News - UK - The Independent 729513;1403494191;benkay;well pennies why would anyone want you? 729514;1403494196;benkay;gotta d that h v 729515;1403494202;Mats_cd03;moiety: heh 729516;1403494272;moiety;lol extra 729517;1403494287;extra;sup moiety 729518;1403494307;benkay;semantic asshole 729519;1403494332;moiety;how do people find here without knowing what it is 729520;1403494343;moiety;or looking at topics 729521;1403494367;extra;who says I didn't read the topic 729522;1403494375;moiety;not you extra, i meant pennies 729523;1403494378;moiety;!up chax 729524;1403494383;extra;pennies is just a retard 729525;1403494385;extra;but we love him 729526;1403494387;moiety;welcome back chax 729527;1403494396;moiety;oh you all know each other? how so? 729528;1403494414;extra;random btc trading channels 729529;1403494429;Mats_cd03;what do i look like? a poet? shit 729530;1403494478;moiety;lmao at the mashed potato benkay, reminds me of the overflowing pizza dough 729531;1403494495;benkay;Mats_cd03: wouldja put that in my rating pplease? "semantic asshole" 729532;1403494505;benkay;i thought you'd appreciate that moiety 729533;1403494545;Mats_cd03;as it is in heaven 729534;1403494688;moiety;well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :] 729535;1403494713;moiety;i did benkay :D 729536;1403494872;moiety;also updated guide is in the wiki 729537;1403494924;moiety;hi peterl 729538;1403494935;peterl;hi moiety and everybody 729539;1403495084;benkay;how've you been sir 729540;1403495091;benkay;!up extra 729541;1403495119;moiety;kakobrekla, Mats_cd03 .. is psyBNC ok enough to use? 729542;1403495133;moiety;!up Lycerion 729543;1403495147;nubbins`;pbbt 729544;1403495159;thestringpuller;nubbins`: what's da stats on dat shirt 729545;1403495161;benkay;oh holy hell logsearch is great 729546;1403495166;thestringpuller;no rush 729547;1403495174;thestringpuller;is it still too late to get trackign added? 729548;1403495187;mthreat;benkay: thanks! 729549;1403495196;thestringpuller;yea mthreat gangsta shit 729550;1403495204;benkay;mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front 729551;1403495220;mthreat;oldest trick in the book 729552;1403495236;benkay;;;rate mthreat 1 knows who to pay off 729553;1403495237;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1. 729554;1403495244;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.0008182 = 3.5093 BTC [+] 729555;1403495285;Mats_cd03;got bored, thought I'd read last year's logs from this day 729556;1403495294;Mats_cd03;bitcoin935:voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life 729557;1403495312;Mats_cd03;bitcoin935:voorhees is going to get whats coming to him 729558;1403495322;Mats_cd03;where is your god now 729559;1403495329;thestringpuller;HOLY SHIT 729560;1403495332;thestringpuller;that's funny as fuck 729561;1403495365;mthreat;benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right 729562;1403495373;mthreat;(from the http log, i mean) 729563;1403495413;mthreat;or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field 729564;1403495434;benkay;yeah that's weird 729565;1403495444;benkay;glad that shit's not my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D 729566;1403495453;thestringpuller;lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... 729567;1403495456;thestringpuller;lol 729568;1403495462;Mats_cd03;moiety: ya i have heard good things about it 729569;1403495611;thestringpuller;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#97671 << dayyumn 729570;1403495611;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729571;1403495652;dub;didn't it hit close to 5? 729572;1403495676;benkay;no but don't get me wrong mthreat - it's awesome and i'm quite thrilled to have it 729573;1403495757;thestringpuller;lol...history...fuck...gettin' old 729574;1403495757;benkay;but from's behavior is totally weird 729575;1403495804;Mats_cd03;meanwhile goat brags about 4M in fiat to random 729576;1403495808;Mats_cd03;cute 729577;1403495848;mthreat;benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right? 729578;1403495853;thestringpuller;whatever happened to goat? Do I have to just read or can someone give me tl;dr ? 729579;1403495885;nubbins`;not sure 729580;1403495888;Namworld;He's living the good life in thailand I think 729581;1403495891;nubbins`;still on the forums 729582;1403495894;Mats_cd03;;;seen chaang-noi 729583;1403495894;gribble;chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: might have to sue em 729584;1403495894;thestringpuller;i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that... 729585;1403495899;Namworld;Pops around ever other month 729586;1403495906;Mats_cd03;lol. 729587;1403495954;thestringpuller;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2013#196389 << LOL! 729588;1403495955;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729589;1403495979;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#96976 729590;1403495979;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729591;1403496299;Mats_cd03;what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin? 729592;1403496337;xmj;this channel is publicly logged, right? 729593;1403496352;joecool;do you really have to ask 729594;1403496366;Mats_cd03;bet the guy spends his time bragging about how famous he is in the bitcoin community 729595;1403496386;Mats_cd03;to naked minors in some whorehouse 729596;1403496464;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.04132944 = 1.8598 BTC [-] {9} 729597;1403496474;xmj;joecool: the answer determines my answer to Mats_cd03's question. 729598;1403496476;xmj;:-) 729599;1403496594;thestringpuller;nubbins`: what do you mean by still on the forums? 729600;1403496604;nubbins`;still active there 729601;1403496616;thestringpuller;as for the stats of the shirts? 729602;1403496623;thestringpuller;is the forums? 729603;1403496625;Mats_cd03;Chaang-Noi:we are not 1005 sure what pirate did was fruad 729604;1403496628;thestringpuller;lol i iz confused... 729605;1403496628;Mats_cd03;Chaang-Noi:some claim it to be a ponzi 729606;1403496639;nubbins`;sorry, i was talking about goat 729607;1403496647;Mats_cd03;Chaang-Noi:but no proff 729608;1403496651;thestringpuller;Oh hah I'm reading my logs non linearly in time 729609;1403496663;nubbins`;too late to add express shipping, shirt's in the mail ;( 729610;1403496668;thestringpuller;kk 729611;1403496676;thestringpuller;how long does it usually take to ship into america? 729612;1403496676;Mats_cd03;Chaang-Noi:and he is not in jai 729613;1403496676;nubbins`;i added an extra in yours and danielpbarron's packages 729614;1403496683;nubbins`;5-6 business days 729615;1403496685;thestringpuller;extra shirt? 729616;1403496689;nubbins`;you might get it friday 729617;1403496694;nubbins`;extra surprise :D 729618;1403496700;thestringpuller;OH BOI! 729619;1403496703;thestringpuller;I like surprises. 729620;1403496778;thestringpuller;whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about? 729621;1403496791;nubbins`;heh 729622;1403496798;nubbins`;;;seen Diablo-D3 729623;1403496798;gribble;Diablo-D3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: like those hilariously large faux horse dildos 729624;1403496813;nubbins`;the things people say right before they stop saying things 729625;1403496837;thestringpuller;2 weeks ain't that long ago 729626;1403496848;thestringpuller;;;seen Nefario 729627;1403496849;gribble;Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 38 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore 729628;1403496855;thestringpuller;LOL 729629;1403496886;thestringpuller;;;gettrust nefario 729630;1403496886;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nefario: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nefario | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nefario | Rated since: Tue Jul 12 22:55:49 2011 729631;1403496939;nubbins`;i gotta sleep 729632;1403497684;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04154292 = 0.5816 BTC [-] {7} 729633;1403497745;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04089371 = 0.6543 BTC [-] {6} 729634;1403497757;benkay;xmj: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 729635;1403497757;assbot;#bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. 729636;1403497758;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729637;1403497758;assbot;#bitcoin-assets bash 729638;1403497758;assbot;Assets Assimilated 729639;1403497809;xmj;benkay: yeah, it was more of a rhethorical question to make a point. 729640;1403497929;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37650 @ 0.00080148 = 30.1757 BTC [-] {2} 729641;1403497949;mircea_popescu; how do people find here without knowing what it is << personally, i blame you! 729642;1403498353;moiety;mircea_popescu: good blame though right?! lol it's the manuls, not me! >.> 729643;1403498422;mircea_popescu;lol 729644;1403498721;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.04001012 = 3.2008 BTC [-] {3} 729645;1403498962;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/062214-halfway-difficulty/ 729646;1403499453;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00080082 = 2.4025 BTC [-] 729647;1403499514;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.027 = 0.54 BTC [-] 729648;1403499941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04 = 0.84 BTC [+] {4} 729649;1403499950;Namworld;Hmm, I sent an email out. Got a few replies. Still a lot of people who don't answer. 729650;1403499984;Namworld;Some people just don't want to be repaid, 729651;1403500565;assbot;extra +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 729652;1403501073;moiety;;; rate extra 2 #bitcoin-assets voice 729653;1403501075;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user extra has been recorded. 729654;1403501091;moiety;don't make me regret that extra :] 729655;1403501106;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04556999 = 0.5468 BTC [+] {3} 729656;1403501111;extra;thanks bb 729657;1403501286;moiety;theres only one BB here XD but np, you obviously read the guides, logs are next. lots to soak in 729658;1403501289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04904967 = 0.9319 BTC [+] {3} 729659;1403501357;moiety;Namworld: at least you tried :] 729660;1403501359;cazalla;little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? 729661;1403501413;moiety;you can learn to contribute the more information you are armed with 729662;1403501427;moiety;unless epically retarded - those cant be helped 729663;1403501518;dub;heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden 729664;1403501520;moiety;ratings aren't set in stone 729665;1403501524;dub;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2013#18961 729666;1403501525;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729667;1403501738;dub;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2013#19577 729668;1403501739;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 729669;1403501877;cazalla;i learn something new here every day moiety but little point parroting it back, a little humbling if anything, just an interesting self observation after being here a while now 729670;1403501960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.05479963 = 1.6988 BTC [+] {5} 729671;1403502021;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32359 @ 0.00079998 = 25.8866 BTC [-] {2} 729672;1403502401;moiety;i learn a lot i wasn't expecting to cazalla :D youre right it is humbling. i just try to make it up be being useful in whatever way i can be (manuls aside) 729673;1403502426;moiety;!up darlidada 729674;1403502433;moiety;hello 729675;1403502492;Namworld;I only need to repay 9.04 BTC to people who haven't replied, fortunately. 729676;1403502553;Namworld;I also owe 178 BTC to large holders but those replied. 729677;1403502729;Namworld;Getting there slowly. 729678;1403503511;moiety;you're not giving up which is the main thing Namworld :] 729679;1403504644;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9280 @ 0.00079998 = 7.4238 BTC [-] 729680;1403504888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00080082 = 3.7238 BTC [+] 729681;1403504949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00080126 = 11.6984 BTC [+] {2} 729682;1403505005;thestringpuller;!up Diablo-D3 729683;1403505030;thestringpuller;!up Diablo-D3 729684;1403505036;Diablo-D3;[12:13:01] whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about? 729685;1403505041;Diablo-D3;Ive been working on it actually 729686;1403505062;thestringpuller;shouldn't you start by gpg authing to get voice :P 729687;1403505085;Diablo-D3;I dont feel like being hassled with it 729688;1403505559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18768 @ 0.00080137 = 15.0401 BTC [+] 729689;1403506352;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.0008029 = 32.9992 BTC [+] 729690;1403506718;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6409 @ 0.00080657 = 5.1693 BTC [+] {2} 729691;1403507146;punkman;fucking phone spammers man 729692;1403507176;punkman;they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP 729693;1403507229;punkman;ninjashogun at least uses IRC http://i.imgur.com/oPHttO0.png 729694;1403507328;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18286 @ 0.00080747 = 14.7654 BTC [+] 729695;1403507388;punkman;!up Ignatius-otc 729696;1403507525;moiety;punkman: lolololol "go die" "ok just so you know, the terms are..." classic ninjashogun 729697;1403507606;moiety;not unlike the cambots i keep getting on skype 729698;1403507877;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26722 @ 0.00081084 = 21.6673 BTC [+] 729699;1403508116;[]bot;Bet created: "LeBron James to take his talents elsewhere" http://bitbet.us/bet/960/ 729700;1403508583;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmc4vhaI8-I 729701;1403508583;assbot;Peter Tevis & Ennio Morricone - A Gringo Like Me - YouTube 729702;1403508691;[]bot;Bet created: "Magnus Carlsen Chess World Champion 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/961/ 729703;1403508816;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_6djrXQuQ 729704;1403508816;assbot;ENNIO MORRICONE LIVE IN ZRICH - The Ecstasy of Gold - 13.2.2014 - YouTube 729705;1403508958;cazalla;thought that name looked familiar 729706;1403508967;cazalla;here's to you, only one i know though 729707;1403509128;[]bot;Bet created: "Obama Approval Rating over 45% in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/962/ 729708;1403509585;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00081295 = 15.0396 BTC [+] 729709;1403510910;punkman;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/10916470/Canadian-woman-who-stopped-car-to-help-ducks-faces-life-in-jail-after-causing-fatal-crash.html 729710;1403510910;assbot;Canadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash - Telegraph 729711;1403511293;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18491 @ 0.00081084 = 14.9932 BTC [-] 729712;1403512576;punkman;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10918321/Football-match-fixing-deal-casts-cloud-over-World-Cup.html 729713;1403512576;assbot;Football match-fixing deal casts cloud over World Cup - Telegraph 729714;1403512628;pankkake;oh, "to help ducks". I was reading it as "to help duck faces" 729715;1403512757;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8659 @ 0.00081295 = 7.0393 BTC [+] 729716;1403513018;moiety;nothing can help duck faces pankkake it's a terminal disease 729717;1403513367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.05499993 = 0.715 BTC [+] {3} 729718;1403513855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PROV] 500 @ 0.002 = 1 BTC 729719;1403517088;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.0008205 = 34.7072 BTC [+] {2} 729720;1403518858;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00081998 = 7.6668 BTC [-] 729721;1403522761;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00081998 = 2.5009 BTC [-] 729722;1403523310;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05499992 = 0.55 BTC [+] 729723;1403524164;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00081969 = 13.3609 BTC [-] {2} 729724;1403524225;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00081587 = 21.7021 BTC [-] {3} 729725;1403524225;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0541 = 1.082 BTC [-] 729726;1403524398;punkman;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.0 729727;1403524398;assbot;I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) 729728;1403524817;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=653207.msg7444672#msg7444672 729729;1403524817;assbot;Cryptsy - Time for Paul Vernon To Come Clean | Bitcointa.lk 729730;1403524835;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18042 @ 0.0008156 = 14.7151 BTC [-] {2} 729731;1403525201;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19321806 = 1.1593 BTC [-] {5} 729732;1403525606;BingoBoingo;punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7428899#msg7428899 << OMG Great post!!! 729733;1403525606;assbot;I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) 729734;1403526041;pankkake;if that is true, yet another forum vip scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7429617#msg7429617 729735;1403526042;assbot;I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) 729736;1403526149;pankkake;and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently 729737;1403526254;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7444427#msg7444427 729738;1403526254;assbot;I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) 729739;1403526299;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05499992 = 1.485 BTC [+] 729740;1403526526;kakobrekla;http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798 729741;1403526527;assbot;Ripoff Report | bitbet.us Complaint Review Internet: 1155798 729742;1403526541;kakobrekla;ok lol, bitbet.us will scam you playing blackjack, did you know? 729743;1403526575;kakobrekla;http://dpaste.com/1882B7N.txt 729744;1403526575;kakobrekla;idiots 729745;1403526602;kakobrekla;what they are doing is extortion, and being bad at it. 729746;1403526604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05499983 = 1.485 BTC [-] {2} 729747;1403526707;pankkake;"Aribitrate" 729748;1403527101;punkman;kakobrekla: bitbet.com does blackjack 729749;1403527136;kakobrekla;aha 729750;1403527144;kakobrekla;well whatever. 729751;1403527160;kakobrekla;it sez .us on the first link 729752;1403527773;dub;%book 729753;1403527774;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 729754;1403528434;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00081441 = 14.5372 BTC [-] 729755;1403528481;nubbins`;hi 729756;1403528537;Mats_cd03;hi qt 729757;1403528541;nubbins`;:0 729758;1403528551;Mats_cd03;whats new 729759;1403528563;nubbins`;nm, just bought a new printer 729760;1403528577;Mats_cd03;what for 729761;1403528578;nubbins`;we have a book printing job and the old one broke last night :( 729762;1403528605;Mats_cd03;bummer 729763;1403528619;nubbins`;we got a lot of use out of it, at least 729764;1403528630;Mats_cd03;good for scrap, at least? 729765;1403528640;nubbins`;still ok for casual use 729766;1403528644;nubbins`;probably just needs a new drum 729767;1403528652;nubbins`;well. another new drum 729768;1403528667;nubbins`;but you can't give clients pages with toner speckled all over 'em 729769;1403528722;nubbins`;but! on the bright side, this new one is color. and does wifi. 729770;1403529111;*;BingoBoingo imagines when nubbins says his new printer is color that it is pink 729771;1403529128;Mats_cd03;nubbins`: r u located in us? 729772;1403529227;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 729773;1403529228;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.0, Best ask: 584.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 584.0, 24 hour volume: 4049.70046702, 24 hour low: 580.46, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 589.903384868 729774;1403529232;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: Prolly 729775;1403529244;BingoBoingo;In the hat region 729776;1403529392;Mats_cd03;nubbins`: id like to print a few (4) tech manuals n things that r ~1000 pages ea. interested? 729777;1403529517;Mats_cd03;im a sucker for dead trees 729778;1403529772;Mats_cd03;http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/us-iraq-security-idUSKBN0EY0Q120140623 countdown to caliphate 729779;1403529772;assbot;Kerry presses Maliki as Iraq loses control of Syrian, Jordanian borders| Reuters 729780;1403530082;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05258336 = 1.5775 BTC [-] {6} 729781;1403530691;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05010324 = 1.0021 BTC [-] {4} 729782;1403530747;TomServo;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/bitcoin-crypto-justice.pdf 729783;1403530762;*;TomServo attempts to retain the contents of his stomach. 729784;1403530772;TomServo;Great crypto justice! 729785;1403530873;Mats_cd03;lol anon authors with names of characters from hbo silicon valley 729786;1403531179;dignork;Mats_cd03: "The presented work has been conducted by" 729787;1403531180;dignork;five anonymous students guided by prof. Johan 729788;1403531182;dignork;Pouwelse at the Delft University of Technology 729789;1403531208;Mats_cd03;yes 729790;1403531271;dignork;Illuminate the path to crypto-justice - priceless 729791;1403531305;Mats_cd03;redundant. crypto is justice. 729792;1403531686;thestringpuller;;;seen jborkl 729793;1403531687;gribble;jborkl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: haha :( 729794;1403532643;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14958 @ 0.00081466 = 12.1857 BTC [+] 729795;1403534233;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.19821016 BTC. Current weight: 38,070. 729796;1403534246;fluffypony;HELLO FRIENDS 729797;1403534259;fluffypony;plane boarding in 2 hours 729798;1403534287;Blazedout419;what plane would that be 729799;1403534312;fluffypony;Blazedout419: going to Estonia 729800;1403534319;Blazedout419;O_o 729801;1403534332;Naphex;what's up in estonia? 729802;1403534358;fluffypony;Naphex: going to a conference at Malla 729803;1403534363;jurov;fluffypony and where are you atm? 729804;1403534368;fluffypony;and hanging out with xmj 729805;1403534370;fluffypony;jurov: Johannesburg 729806;1403534397;jurov;oh... i thought you're already somewhere in eu changing planes 729807;1403534400;fluffypony;there are 3 different business lounges I have access to, so I'm on my second one 729808;1403534425;fluffypony;jurov: no, I came up to Jhb on Friday so I could see friends and visit my 84 year old grandmother 729809;1403535144;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15658 @ 0.00081512 = 12.7631 BTC [+] 729810;1403535207;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: The tortilla conference? 729811;1403535270;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: yes 729812;1403535280;fluffypony;it'll either be fun, or batshit insane 729813;1403535302;BingoBoingo;Is refried beans and queso also showing up? 729814;1403535388;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32850 @ 0.00081229 = 26.6837 BTC [-] {3} 729815;1403535407;BingoBoingo;What about Al Pastor? 729816;1403535433;mthreat;maybe Menudo will play 729817;1403535518;fluffypony;lol 729818;1403535518;Mats_cd03;mmm i think ill get chipotle today 729819;1403535526;fluffypony;BingoBoingo started a trend 729820;1403535558;Mats_cd03;ever had a quesarito? 729821;1403535569;mthreat;damn i miss chipotle 729822;1403535573;fluffypony;no 729823;1403535582;fluffypony;I've only had Mexican food two or three times 729824;1403535592;fluffypony;there is a decent enough Mexican restaurant in Cape Town 729825;1403535606;Mats_cd03;a quesarito is a burrito with the shell of a quesadilla, melted cheese between two tortillas 729826;1403535628;fluffypony;but we mostly went for the margaritas 729827;1403535631;fluffypony;oh nice 729828;1403535702;Mats_cd03;fattening as fuck 729829;1403535746;Mats_cd03;bet its like ~1100 cals har har 729830;1403535875;fluffypony;moving to next lounge, bbiab 729831;1403535883;jurov;orly, flying to eu to meet tortilla of all people? 729832;1403535912;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FJDGBF.txt ) 729833;1403535912;BingoBoingo;!b 7 729834;1403535925;BingoBoingo;Mats_cd03: There's two tortillas? 729835;1403536059;assbot;rithm +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 729836;1403536113;Apocalyptic;!up rithm 729837;1403536120;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00080741 = 23.6571 BTC [-] {4} 729838;1403536122;Apocalyptic;!up rithm 729839;1403536135;Apocalyptic;damn 729840;1403536229;BingoBoingo;%ticker 729841;1403536230;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A 729842;1403536233;rithm;fu assbot 729843;1403536235;Mats_cd03;BingoBoingo: might be a hard shell on the inside, its been a while 729844;1403536235;Apocalyptic;!up rithm 729845;1403536243;rithm;;;ident 729846;1403536244;gribble;Nick 'rithm', with hostmask 'rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm', is not identified. 729847;1403536252;Blazedout419;oh no who let rithm in here 729848;1403536253;*;rithm kicks and stabs assbot 729849;1403536267;Blazedout419;rithm I got tracking on our coins today! 729850;1403536279;rithm;whew that was a lot of hacking just to talk 729851;1403536286;rithm;i'm tired now 729852;1403536306;rithm;this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone 729853;1403536335;rithm;mp asked about logs and i realized i wasn't even here 729854;1403536343;rithm;that's the result of your assbot 729855;1403536383;Apocalyptic;the question is do you have them ? 729856;1403536398;Apocalyptic;oh you mean you weren't here back in 2011/2012 ? 729857;1403536400;rithm;nope 729858;1403536408;rithm;yes 729859;1403536421;rithm;i request was made for inception to present 729860;1403536426;rithm;which i cannot fulfill 729861;1403536433;Apocalyptic;sounds about right 729862;1403536530;rithm;something private, maybe 729863;1403536537;rithm;a whole channel log, no 729864;1403536547;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.04936878 = 1.1849 BTC [-] {7} 729865;1403536608;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.048 = 0.768 BTC [-] 729866;1403536852;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04601997 = 1.3346 BTC [-] {3} 729867;1403537550;benkay;;;gettrust assbot rithm 729868;1403537551;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user rithm: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=rithm | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=rithm | Rated since: Tue May 6 14:03:45 2014 729869;1403537565;rithm;~/.xchat2$ cat scrollback/jcph.am-Freenode/#bitcoin-assets 729870;1403537568;rithm;whoops 729871;1403537571;rithm;raise the roof 729872;1403537594;rithm;stop nick highlighting me i'm trying to work over here 729873;1403537597;Apocalyptic;dat jcpham 729874;1403537645;rithm;don't hack me 729875;1403537646;benkay;i don't know what to make of all this 729876;1403537652;benkay;why the new nick, rithm/jcpham? 729877;1403537654;fluffypony;dat fake gpg keyz 729878;1403537676;fluffypony;rithm knows what I'm talking aboooooot 729879;1403537677;Apocalyptic;benkay, I asked the same a while ago, got a not so serious answer 729880;1403537687;rithm;i'm not sure new is a proper adjective 729881;1403537697;benkay;adjectives aside, why? 729882;1403537700;rithm;to describe what is taking place 729883;1403537702;fluffypony;the last time rithm was serious Clinton was still in office 729884;1403537727;rithm;ok let's look at benkay I assume that's some amalgamation of your real world name 729885;1403537732;rithm;100 assumption 729886;1403537768;benkay;i don't have time for socratic crap this morning. 729887;1403537777;benkay;are you distancing your afk name from your irc handle? 729888;1403537789;rithm;ok wel jcpham goes back along fucking ways i decided to no longer use it anymore 729889;1403537795;rithm;fuck the internet i'll do whatever i want 729890;1403537808;Mats_cd03;what a baller 729891;1403537816;benkay;what's the story with those -10's? 729892;1403537826;rithm;i pissed off the wrong scammer one day? 729893;1403537827;bitcoinpete;heya 729894;1403537833;rithm;all the supakilla accounts are mine too 729895;1403537835;benkay;oh, all scammer shit 729896;1403537840;rithm;do i need to confess to anything else 729897;1403537854;Mats_cd03;do you own altcoins 729898;1403537857;Apocalyptic;heh 729899;1403537865;Apocalyptic;he missed the doge boat 729900;1403537868;rithm;some doge and litecoin and abazillion XRP 729901;1403537871;rithm;next question 729902;1403537882;benkay;http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=supa // now that's p funny 729903;1403537883;assbot;Rating Details for User 'supa' 729904;1403537902;rithm;that guy sucks and tried to ruin a lot of ratings for no reasons 729905;1403537905;rithm;he still scams 729906;1403537908;bitcoinpete;wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ … kakobrekla ? 729907;1403537908;assbot;BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 13 hours ago 729908;1403537913;rithm;he's one of the "top 4 scammers" 729909;1403537917;Apocalyptic;yeah he does... 729910;1403537921;benkay;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:supa&start=120 729911;1403537922;assbot;from:supa 729912;1403537950;bitcoinpete;benkay: that's an insane number of -10s! 729913;1403537958;rithm;those -10's a re merit badges in my mind 729914;1403538013;rithm;also i named all my kids with the same initials 729915;1403538019;rithm;so jcpham making a comeback in 10 years 729916;1403538054;rithm;once jcpham learns to computer again 729917;1403538073;Mats_cd03;get your wife to change her name 729918;1403538083;rithm;she already did! 729919;1403538087;rithm;wham and i'm out 729920;1403538089;Mats_cd03;same initials? 729921;1403538171;Mats_cd03;reminds me of lyndon b johnson: wife is ladybird, daughters are lynda bird and luci baines 729922;1403538178;Mats_cd03;bunch of weirdos. 729923;1403538322;rithm;+1 rithm is weirdo 729924;1403538341;fluffypony;I thought rithm is a dancer? 729925;1403538354;Apocalyptic;rithm is all the things 729926;1403538355;rithm;rithm is the real fluffypony 729927;1403538365;fluffypony;rithm: as your GPG signed message proved :-P 729928;1403538368;rithm;all other ponies are immatators 729929;1403538379;fluffypony;so won't the real fluffypony please stand up 729930;1403538381;fluffypony;please stand up 729931;1403538382;fluffypony;please stand up 729932;1403538391;rithm;obv i knew how to use freeshell long before the kids 729933;1403538411;rithm;didn't try to hide very well though 729934;1403538445;rithm;so i usually find myself jealous of "fluffypony" "Apocalyptic" 729935;1403538489;rithm;many many many moons ago when tones still did stuff on phones 729936;1403538496;fluffypony;lol 729937;1403538497;rithm;there was a kid named rithm 729938;1403538499;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080566 = 13.0114 BTC [-] {2} 729939;1403538506;fluffypony;and BO2k was the shit 729940;1403538513;rithm;rithm_phreak 729941;1403538524;rithm;but this was so long ago 729942;1403538530;rithm;it seems like another reality 729943;1403538567;rithm;so you know, i was like /nickserv info rithm 729944;1403538572;rithm;woohoo new nick done. 729945;1403538593;rithm;then i went to #freenode and got me cloak changed 729946;1403538603;bitcoinpete;benkay: the startle was from my intoxicating confidence. those poor girls hadn't the faintest clue where they went wrong. 729947;1403538604;rithm;the rest is history. 729948;1403538620;BingoBoingo;;;rate rithm 1 weirdo 729949;1403538621;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user rithm has been recorded. 729950;1403538630;rithm;ty ty ty 729951;1403538667;rithm;it was a pain getting the allow mask changed on all the secret channels 729952;1403538719;rithm;are any of the mining based assets not "turds" 729953;1403538721;fluffypony;like #rithm ? 729954;1403538731;rithm;or is the mining turd still prevalent 729955;1403538753;fluffypony;rithm: no, the mining assets are all turds - many are outright scams, the rest are USD profitable and not BTC profitable 729956;1403538756;fluffypony;a few have managed to get lucky 729957;1403538793;bitcoinpete;;;later tell kakobrekla on the costa rica bet, http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 was made around 55' mark of the game. the team clinched after the final whistle was blown at 90+4'. Granted, this is close. But how close is too close in world cup betting? 729958;1403538793;assbot;BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 14 hours ago 729959;1403538793;gribble;The operation succeeded. 729960;1403538804;rithm;#bitcoin-rithm is where we spin-the-bottle and decide if Willy trends up or down 729961;1403538834;rithm;BTC profitable usually involves arbitration and a lot of liquidity 729962;1403538840;rithm;asicminer you used to be able to play in 729963;1403538848;rithm;USD profitable is a joke. 729964;1403538885;fluffypony;exactly 729965;1403538891;fluffypony;might as well just sit on your Bitcoin 729966;1403538945;rithm;mmmhmmm 729967;1403538953;rithm;or dollar cst average and buy it 729968;1403539170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32657 @ 0.00079973 = 26.1168 BTC [-] {3} 729969;1403539223;xmj;fluffypony: did you get my sms? 729970;1403539231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78533443 BTC to 9`559 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 729971;1403539518;benkay;bitcoinpete: i'm looking forward to my 10year 729972;1403539538;bitcoinpete;this was basically mine 729973;1403539544;bitcoinpete;though highly impromptu 729974;1403539548;bitcoinpete;it was better for it 729975;1403539564;bitcoinpete;less pretense, less expectation 729976;1403539580;bitcoinpete;more impact 729977;1403539584;benkay;gonna rent a trabamborghini 729978;1403539585;mircea_popescu;!up _flow_ 729979;1403539592;benkay;and a roflcopter 729980;1403539631;bitcoinpete;is the roflcopter big enough to carry the trambo to the party? 729981;1403539667;mircea_popescu;could be a lolbambo 729982;1403539673;mircea_popescu;mix everything 729983;1403539692;asciilifeform;lulzerati 729984;1403539699;mircea_popescu;hahaha 729985;1403539715;mircea_popescu;WE ARE TEH LULZERATI 729986;1403539719;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15061 @ 0.00079972 = 12.0446 BTC [+] 729987;1403539722;bitcoinpete;as long as it's hilariously italian lol 729988;1403539728;mircea_popescu;we control the derpitudinal and the herpiginal 729989;1403539743;mircea_popescu;or wahs it herpical 729990;1403539747;benkay;hm maybe i'll duct tape the trabamborghini to the roflcopter and float to the con 729991;1403539768;benkay;although there *is* a dock, i could always take the derpmarine 729992;1403539782;bitcoinpete;the lulz that bind should obviate the need for tape 729993;1403539823;mircea_popescu;btw i just got a message from the high council of the darkerati legolas of the something or the other, i forget (it was properly inside a dildo impaled in the cloaca of a messenger crow tho, so there's no doubt as to authenticity) 729994;1403539834;mircea_popescu;apparently we have to pick our colors for bitcoin-assets 729995;1403539857;mircea_popescu;so what we do, pink-and-yellow ? 729996;1403539922;benkay;silver and red for maximum migrane factor 729997;1403539940;mircea_popescu;i think that's purple and purple 729998;1403539986;ThickAsThieves;i just logged in to say purple 729999;1403539993;mircea_popescu;AHAHA 730000;1403539995;mircea_popescu;epic beaten 730001;1403539999;ThickAsThieves;we are royalty after all 730002;1403540006;BingoBoingo;http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473 730003;1403540007;assbot;FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja documentation, you can h 730004;1403540009;mircea_popescu;speak for yourself. i'm self made. 730005;1403540010;ThickAsThieves;gotta be that shade that doesnt exist anymore too 730006;1403540039;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves beetlejuice purple ? 730007;1403540041;ThickAsThieves;made from the winds of extinct dragonflies or whatever 730008;1403540045;ThickAsThieves;wings* 730009;1403540055;mircea_popescu;dude, if it were made from the winds... 730010;1403540062;mircea_popescu;either farts or wing turbulence. 730011;1403540066;ThickAsThieves;lol 730012;1403540080;ThickAsThieves;what are your colors? oh, nothing unusual, wind 730013;1403540089;mircea_popescu;we sound pretty wicca. 730014;1403540103;BingoBoingo;Eh, why not just use a couple thousand shades of purple arranged such that no two splotches have a delta greater than 3 730015;1403540115;mircea_popescu;our colors are wind and that shot of pain urmom felt that one time. 730016;1403540162;BingoBoingo;Picking colors I think the priority should be, what would be the biggest pain in nubbins` ass... 730017;1403540189;ThickAsThieves;deep blues are the hardest 730018;1403540196;mircea_popescu;Mr. Brown: Lemme tell you what 'Like a Virgin' is about. It's all about this cooze who's a regular fuck machine, I'm talking morning, day, night, afternoon, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick. Then one day she meets this John Holmes motherfucker and it's like, whoa baby, I mean this cat is like Charles Bronson in the 'Great Escape', he's digging tunnels. Now, she's gettin' the serious dick action and 730019;1403540196;mircea_popescu;she's feeling something she ain't felt since forever. Pain. Pain. It hurts her. It shouldn't hurt her, you know, her pussy should be Bubble Yum by now, but when this cat fucks her it hurts. It hurts just like it did the first time. You see the pain is reminding a fuck machine what it once was like to be a virgin. Hence, 'Like a Virgin'. 730020;1403540201;ThickAsThieves;to get them blue without being purple is hard 730021;1403540228;mircea_popescu;cymk process sucks huh. 730022;1403540232;ThickAsThieves;yep 730023;1403540240;ThickAsThieves;solvent ink has higher gamut 730024;1403540247;ThickAsThieves;and if he screenprints it, any color is easy 730025;1403540273;ThickAsThieves;i dont think he does offset 730026;1403540281;ThickAsThieves;otherwise 730027;1403540301;ThickAsThieves;what's getting printed anyway? 730028;1403540303;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added? <<< ahahaha no dude, it was too late before, but we've been doing -t for a while so now it's too early 730029;1403540304;mircea_popescu;o.O 730030;1403540337;HeySteve;hi mircea_popescu, I'd like to talk about F.DERP now if that's convenient 730031;1403540341;mircea_popescu;shoot. 730032;1403540357;HeySteve;ok the companies concerned are BitPay and BitGo? 730033;1403540383;mircea_popescu;so far, yes. 730034;1403540403;mircea_popescu;mthreat http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits+from%3Amircea+haslink%3Atrue << ok that shit's epic. 730035;1403540404;assbot;tits from:mircea haslink:true 730036;1403540418;HeySteve;ok from the original post (checking for new ones) I take it the reasoning is that they're overvalued? 730037;1403540453;mircea_popescu;well, more properly put, the reasoning is that they will never make in the course of their business enough money to pay back that round of investment. 730038;1403540493;mircea_popescu;so someone with 30mn looking to invest in bitcoin would have been better served by buying bitcoin than participating in the series a. 730039;1403540514;mircea_popescu;this, of course, is a very old story : with the exception of mpex listed corps, it is universally true of any other exchange or broad group. 730040;1403540524;mircea_popescu;be it glbse or us based vc investments. 730041;1403540573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00080808 = 11.0707 BTC [+] 730042;1403540575;HeySteve;I don't know much about BitGo honestly, but it seems the success of BitPay is very closely linked with Bitcoin's success. doesn't that make this something of a bet against Bitcoin's continued merchant adoption? 730043;1403540609;mircea_popescu;the success of bitpay has exactly zero to do with the success of bitcoin, is the problem. 730044;1403540625;mircea_popescu;they're trying to leech it, which only works for so long. what's worse, their burn rate is killing them. 730045;1403540666;thestringpuller;hahahaha 730046;1403540674;HeySteve;ok it sounds like you've taken a very close look into their financials. could you explain what you mean by burn rate? 730047;1403540676;asciilifeform;'bitpay' is to btc use is as 'wine' (winblows emulation gizmo) is to the use of linux. 730048;1403540689;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... << will ? seriously ? show me irc tools that can compare. 730049;1403540692;ThickAsThieves;bitpay also has to worry about someone like PayPal coming in "Thanks for warming our seat!" 730050;1403540702;mircea_popescu;HeySteve burn rate is a common concept in start-ups 730051;1403540707;mircea_popescu;the rate at which they spend money. 730052;1403540715;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: what if I change will to is? 730053;1403540716;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform aptly put, i would say. 730054;1403540723;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller deal. 730055;1403540734;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves precisely. no barrier to entry 730056;1403540740;mircea_popescu;coinbase is already moving into that, with no difficulty. 730057;1403540755;mircea_popescu;of course, coinbase is a piece of shit, but there';s no requirement that next competitor is also a piece of shit 730058;1403540785;HeySteve;any plans to add further companies? 730059;1403540797;ThickAsThieves;bitpay/coinbase only chance is landing exclusive contracts with poor terms for the merchant (still a leech job) 730060;1403540814;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin? << if you pay to fuck in general, why not. 730061;1403540828;mircea_popescu;HeySteve yes, as mentioned in the article. any corps that make bold claims in the future will go in there. 730062;1403540837;Mats_cd03;it'd be boring, thats why. 730063;1403540843;ThickAsThieves;this is why they brag and compete over new notable merchants, it's all they have - those contract terms 730064;1403540852;BingoBoingo;HeySteve: Bitpay is sponsoring a fucking bowl game. They probably spent ~10% of their last round on a notoriously poor form of advertising. 730065;1403540853;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 the guy's own money! he can spend it any old way he wants! 730066;1403540870;Mats_cd03;indeed 730067;1403540873;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves a business model based on tricking people isn't a good match for ipo anyway 730068;1403540884;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo forced mistakes. 730069;1403540888;HeySteve;BingoBoingo, yeah I saw that... will it at least be seen on national TV? 730070;1403540891;ThickAsThieves;i dont mind BitPay though, they are taking one for the team 730071;1403540899;ThickAsThieves;go ahead an advertise the shit outta bitcoin 730072;1403540903;ThickAsThieves;their loss, our gain 730073;1403540916;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i don't mind them either, honestly, but a) people found out about gallippi's past, and generally, the thing's coming apart. gotta cut them loose. 730074;1403540930;BingoBoingo;HeySteve: It will be on ESPN with the fifty or so other bowl games that happen in december 730075;1403540939;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05003824 = 0.9007 BTC [-] {3} 730076;1403541002;HeySteve;so is to correct to F.DERP as a hedge fund? 730077;1403541006;mircea_popescu;dub:heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden << ain't history a wunderbar thing :D 730078;1403541022;mircea_popescu;HeySteve yeah, i suppose it would be. 730079;1403541048;HeySteve;right, and BitGo, what is the reasoning behind including them? 730080;1403541055;ThickAsThieves;i dunno, it's kinda a sad hedge, being that those companies are relying on bitcoin 730081;1403541056;mircea_popescu;bitcoin shit is weird by nature, but hedge fund generally means "this pool of money doing exotic shit" 730082;1403541073;mircea_popescu;HeySteve that they announced a 10mn round. from the article : 730083;1403541102;mircea_popescu;For everyi Series A / seed funding announced by the circlejerk that is either in excess of 1 million USD or for a company valued through such funding over 100 million USD, I will create a synthetic asset on MPEx. 730084;1403541115;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/ 730085;1403541116;assbot;Introducing the D. series pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 730086;1403541137;HeySteve;ah ha 730087;1403541168;HeySteve;so it's decided purely on their funding? 730088;1403541171;BingoBoingo;HeySteve: Here's last year's line up of bowl games. http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls 730089;1403541172;assbot;College Bowl Games - 2013-14 College Bowl Game Scores and Schedules - ESPN 730090;1403541181;mircea_popescu;cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? << i just try to pretend it's philosophy :D 730091;1403541183;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00080808 = 3.2323 BTC [+] 730092;1403541187;ThickAsThieves;someone needs to make sure these VCs know about your offer, they can haz MOAR BitPay 730093;1403541188;mircea_popescu;HeySteve on their alleged funding, yes. 730094;1403541205;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves by the set of lawsuit threats i would guess they know. 730095;1403541211;ThickAsThieves;nice 730096;1403541220;ThickAsThieves;on what grounds? 730097;1403541228;ThickAsThieves;you said our name in a thing! 730098;1403541232;mircea_popescu;uh... believe it or not, mostly sec regulation 730099;1403541244;ThickAsThieves;i see 730100;1403541253;mircea_popescu;funny how blinders work, you know ? these people have... finance lawyers. who went to school and lived in a pond 730101;1403541262;mircea_popescu;what do you mean this guy could not care less ? that is not possible ? 730102;1403541284;HeySteve;well... it seems many startups are raking in king's ransoms just because there's a lot of enthusiasm around Bitcoin... so by shorting, you are risking exposure to these kind of bubbles? 730103;1403541305;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2560 @ 0.00080902 = 2.0711 BTC [+] 730104;1403541307;mircea_popescu;yes. can you name people that got rich in the dot com bubble ? 730105;1403541319;mircea_popescu;name a dozen, then see what % did it by shorting it. 730106;1403541333;HeySteve;hmm many got rich then poor in quick succession 730107;1403541342;HeySteve;few were wise enough to sell or short at the top 730108;1403541344;mircea_popescu;(and i don't mean "were briefly rich during the bubble". i mean "are rich today and were not before that") 730109;1403541347;ThickAsThieves;sounds like these bitcoin company CEOs 730110;1403541384;mircea_popescu;Namworld: Getting there slowly. << what's your horizon, next year like ? 730111;1403541388;HeySteve;I think mostly the guys who sold their companies during the mania made out like bandits 730112;1403541395;HeySteve;investors not so much 730113;1403541397;mircea_popescu;so the guys who... SHORTED IT 730114;1403541398;ThickAsThieves;i dont think the btc startup bubble will be nearly as bad 730115;1403541408;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves bet ? 730116;1403541417;ThickAsThieves;in dollars 730117;1403541421;mircea_popescu;fu :D 730118;1403541421;HeySteve;I hear what you're saying, the art is in the timing 730119;1403541425;ThickAsThieves;hehe 730120;1403541437;ThickAsThieves;what i mean is, 730121;1403541447;mircea_popescu;HeySteve no timing involved. if you sell your corp in the bubble and walk away you shorted the bubble. 730122;1403541455;ThickAsThieves;i think the need to buy bitocin in addition to any VC investment related to a bitcoin co is obvious 730123;1403541461;ThickAsThieves;and thus theyll all do it 730124;1403541464;ThickAsThieves;and save some skin 730125;1403541465;mircea_popescu;obvious, to whom. 730126;1403541477;HeySteve;mircea_popescu yes in a sense, I know a guy who was offered a fortune for his finance site but held on 730127;1403541479;ThickAsThieves;tony 730128;1403541480;ThickAsThieves;barry 730129;1403541482;ThickAsThieves;etc 730130;1403541484;mircea_popescu;stuff like f.derp is MAKING it obvious 730131;1403541487;mircea_popescu;but no, it's not obvious. 730132;1403541493;ThickAsThieves;maybe youre right 730133;1403541495;mircea_popescu;HeySteve is he rich ? 730134;1403541497;ThickAsThieves;it wasnt always obvious to me 730135;1403541505;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves never estimate just how lemming-like finance types are/. 730136;1403541507;mircea_popescu;it can't be done. 730137;1403541524;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, he's very comfortable I'd say, retired now, but he could have been loaded 730138;1403541527;mircea_popescu;that's the one profession that most selects for lemming qualities. more so than military even 730139;1403541533;mircea_popescu;HeySteve mkay. 730140;1403541542;HeySteve;yeah moneyweb.co.za if you're interested 730141;1403541561;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, any similar products to F.DERP which you're aware of? 730142;1403541570;ThickAsThieves;cuz all the accountibility leads to all these illusions of predicting things 730143;1403541583;mircea_popescu;punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP << they call my phone here too. to sell me... comcast and shit. 730144;1403541609;mircea_popescu;HeySteve not really. i don't think the world has spawned yet such an asshole so as to be able to match with me. 730145;1403541624;asciilifeform;comcast in Ar ?! 730146;1403541630;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform i have no fucking idea. 730147;1403541661;ThickAsThieves;mp can you use your power to break comcast? 730148;1403541663;HeySteve;mircea_popescu heh some people probably won't appreciate this fund, but it expands an investor's options so I don't see the downside 730149;1403541665;mircea_popescu;but daily call logs have at the end : "spam - comcast, netflix, pizzahut" etc 730150;1403541665;ThickAsThieves;thx 730151;1403541684;mircea_popescu;HeySteve the downside is that it sinks the hype, which is a very major problem. 730152;1403541686;asciilifeform;u.s. phone extension ? 730153;1403541691;mircea_popescu;the entire vc circuit lives out of hype. 730154;1403541714;mircea_popescu;so in their perspective, this is a disaster of commons sort of situation : a bunch of people work to inflate bubbles, all it takes to ruin theireffort is one guy with a pin 730155;1403541743;mircea_popescu;11-6542-5529 730156;1403541756;rithm;yeah lemming-like 730157;1403541763;mircea_popescu;o hay josh 730158;1403541777;rithm;there's a certain judge and we just (not i) a suborndinate installed his new computer 730159;1403541783;rithm;ira balances laying out 730160;1403541789;rithm;checking out balances laying about 730161;1403541794;rithm;no personal security 730162;1403541798;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, why not just create futures or some other instruments over these companies, which could be traded long or short? 730163;1403541800;rithm;howdy mircea 730164;1403541811;mircea_popescu;punkman1 lol who's popeofdope ? 730165;1403541854;mircea_popescu;HeySteve too much hassle with future chains. if you want them short you buy f.derp, if you want them long you just get to select d.whatever 730166;1403541861;mircea_popescu;this because logically nobody who wants them short cares which 730167;1403541877;mircea_popescu;whereas people wanting them long prolly want to stock pick 730168;1403541910;ThickAsThieves;btw ive been sending some traders to check out bitbet, hopefully some stick 730169;1403541915;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00080902 = 18.8502 BTC [+] 730170;1403541925;ThickAsThieves;the SR auction is the talk of the town 730171;1403541927;HeySteve;mircea_popescu ok and you say these are synthetic instruments... this means you don't own or have borrowed any shares in the companies? 730172;1403541928;mircea_popescu;any by sent you mean referral ? 730173;1403541933;ThickAsThieves;yes 730174;1403541939;ThickAsThieves;but also verbal chatting up 730175;1403541944;mircea_popescu;HeySteve not directly. 730176;1403541950;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves nice. 730177;1403541984;mircea_popescu;assbot: Canadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash - Telegraph << hallellujah. 730178;1403542009;ThickAsThieves;commenters saying i stole the bet wording! slander 730179;1403542011;mircea_popescu;pankkake: and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently << he just pumps them. 730180;1403542017;mircea_popescu;i was wondering where's pankkake 730181;1403542023;HeySteve;ok thanks, I think that covers it. I have written up some pre-amble then will add these lines verbatim apart from adding capitalisation and punctuation. will ask if any further questions come up. 730182;1403542031;mircea_popescu;no problem. 730183;1403542038;asciilifeform;http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Moneytoilet_2ecom 730184;1403542038;assbot;Halfbakery: Moneytoilet.com 730185;1403542051;rithm;http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/tally-of-cyber-extortion-attacks-on-tech-companies-grows/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1& 730186;1403542057;rithm;what a long url 730187;1403542074;mircea_popescu;?_php=true 730188;1403542076;mircea_popescu;now that's epic. 730189;1403542080;mthreat;and twice 730190;1403542084;mthreat;in case the first one didn't work 730191;1403542089;rithm;hey i just copied and pasted it 730192;1403542090;mircea_popescu;shouldn't it be ?___php====true ? 730193;1403542098;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00080808 = 20.606 BTC [-] 730194;1403542124;assbot;Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0B8VQ7Q.txt ) 730195;1403542124;mircea_popescu;!b 7 730196;1403542131;HeySteve;Dogecoin getting copyright trolled - "Ultra Pro International, a case and sleeve company, announced plans to trademark the word “Doge.”" 730197;1403542158;mircea_popescu;they never tm'd it ? 730198;1403542159;mircea_popescu;not possible. 730199;1403542176;HeySteve;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/dogecoin-users-outraged-trademark/2014/06/23 730200;1403542176;assbot;Dogecoin Users Outraged Over Trademark 730201;1403542189;mircea_popescu;awww lol 730202;1403542193;rithm;it _was_ a ripoff of another alt, so they might have overlooked that purposefully 730203;1403542199;rithm;or still is 730204;1403542208;mircea_popescu;HeySteve o wait, were you with the one crypto news site i kinda liked ? 730205;1403542209;mthreat;there are "Caffe del Doge" in buenos aires 730206;1403542215;rithm;kaynecoin sued though 730207;1403542220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00080808 = 9.697 BTC [-] 730208;1403542229;HeySteve;yeah mircea_popescu, the one I linked to above 730209;1403542236;mircea_popescu;cool 730210;1403542240;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust HeySteve 730211;1403542241;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask HeySteve!HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user HeySteve: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=HeySteve | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=HeySteve | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 02:49:55 2014 730212;1403542248;rithm;yeah i stumbled on someone from this channel's blog last night accidentally 730213;1403542263;mircea_popescu;;;rate HeySteve 1 cryptocoinsnews reporter. 730214;1403542264;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user HeySteve has been recorded. 730215;1403542302;HeySteve;cool I should rate you also, plus quite a few others 730216;1403542327;mircea_popescu;who's the admin there ? 730217;1403542340;HeySteve;David Parker (alias) 730218;1403542366;mircea_popescu;well tell him to drop by sometime, maybe we make an advertising deal ? 730219;1403542367;mike_c;i broke it. http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea+*derp 730220;1403542383;HeySteve;cool mircea_popescu, I'll let him know 730221;1403542387;mircea_popescu;mike_c blank page ? 730222;1403542391;mike_c;yeah 730223;1403542415;mircea_popescu;o o i thought you meant you broke som,e story 730224;1403542420;mircea_popescu;had press language space loaded 730225;1403542425;mike_c;hehe 730226;1403542432;mthreat;mircea_popescu: suffix searches ("*derp") don't work 730227;1403542441;mthreat;oops, that was meant for mike_c 730228;1403542470;mike_c;well, i was trying to search for "f.derp", but seems it didn't like the period 730229;1403542480;HeySteve;;;rate mircea_popescu 2 runs MPEx, involved in Bitcoin for ages 730230;1403542482;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. 730231;1403542490;nubbins`;Mats_cd03: can do, but shipping would be the killer. better to get it done locally 730232;1403542510;mthreat;mike_c: f.derp matches 3 results 730233;1403542537;mike_c;that feels unlikely. mircea never said f.derp? 730234;1403542555;mircea_popescu;i must've 730235;1403542566;mthreat;mike_c: can be verified by clicking the result link to the log 730236;1403542614;mike_c;maybe he didn't! is assbot not indexed? 730237;1403542616;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798 << do you want to bother and CD them ? 730238;1403542617;assbot;Ripoff Report | bitbet.us Complaint Review Internet: 1155798 730239;1403542626;mircea_popescu;im kinda inclined to ignore 730240;1403542695;thestringpuller;mike_c: are you gonna charge for btc-alpha one day? 730241;1403542697;Apocalyptic;"I made a deposit and started to play. The games were a little glitch, especially Blackjack" // huh 730242;1403542709;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic ransom site. 730243;1403542710;mthreat;mike_c: assbot is indexed. add "isbot:true" or "isbot:false" to include only bots, or remove them, respectively. 730244;1403542766;nubbins`;http://www.duhaimelaw.com/2014/06/22/canada-implements-worlds-first-national-bitcoin-law/ 730245;1403542766;assbot;» Canada implements world’s first national Bitcoin law Duhaime Law 730246;1403542790;Apocalyptic;mircea, I don't get it 730247;1403542815;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic you knopw what revenge pornsites are ? 730248;1403542835;mircea_popescu;nubbins` does it say anything interesting ? 730249;1403542839;Apocalyptic;yeah 730250;1403542879;mircea_popescu;same principle. 730251;1403542910;nubbins`;dealing in "virtual currencies" subject to AML regs, must register with FINTRAC, banks are prohibited from opening accounts for dealers who aren't registered 730252;1403542919;mike_c;mthreat: got it. thanks. very cool page. 730253;1403542964;mike_c;thestringpuller: i'm more likely to pay people to read it than to charge :) 730254;1403542981;mike_c;but no, i don't really expect to ever charge. 730255;1403542992;nubbins`;essentially what cavirtex ceo suggested in senate heatings :D 730256;1403542994;nubbins`;hearings, even 730257;1403543038;mircea_popescu;mike_c srlsy ?! 730258;1403543067;mircea_popescu;nubbins` sucks for canada. 730259;1403543070;mike_c;srlsy no charge? yeah. it's a loss leader. 730260;1403543110;mike_c;what's the point of charging? if i ever want to make some pennies i'll toss up a BB affiliate ad. 730261;1403543133;mike_c;not like i have all of romania reading it or anything. 730262;1403543135;mircea_popescu;i c. 730263;1403543178;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: you see my comment the other day about altcoin-seeder? 730264;1403543249;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: not entirely unexpected regs 730265;1403543265;bitcoinpete;really just focusing on >$10k transactions 730266;1403543267;jurov;nubbins` ThickAsThieves pankkake etc... you're to cease and desist using mpex/coinbr before the PCMLTFA takes comes into effect 730267;1403543305;mircea_popescu;wait what 730268;1403543322;jurov;>:D 730269;1403543347;jurov;oh TAT is not canadian sry... but hes hould have stopped long ago anyway 730270;1403543373;jurov;and nubs too... 730271;1403543394;BingoBoingo;Wait pankkake is canadian nao too? 730272;1403543405;mike_c;candian, french, not much difference 730273;1403543537;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 730274;1403543540;gribble;Current Blocks: 307400 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1047 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16247789840.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.68853 730275;1403543559;benkay; http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473 // i'm dying over here 730276;1403543559;assbot;FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja documentation, you can h 730277;1403543590;BingoBoingo;benkay: Wait till you get to the comments 730278;1403543888;*;jurov saves http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lfD7I_3I--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/776348485761937325.jpg 730279;1403543891;benkay;" but as we formalize our road map, we're formalizing the teams working on those buckets." 730280;1403543900;benkay;yeah that one's great, eh jurov ? 730281;1403543905;benkay;"product vision" 730282;1403543936;benkay;sent that to a guy i know over at ebay mobile whose "vision quest to set the visual style fo ebay mobile" has been relegated to the...ipad app. 730283;1403543939;mike_c;lol. jurov, that image will definitely be useful in the future. 730284;1403544294;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.04613001 = 2.5833 BTC [-] {3} 730285;1403544478;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19180002 = 1.918 BTC [-] {3} 730286;1403544538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18900001 = 1.89 BTC [-] 730287;1403544539;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 156 @ 0.04498717 = 7.018 BTC [-] {6} 730288;1403545087;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.044 = 1.012 BTC [-] 730289;1403545209;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.188 = 3.76 BTC [-] {2} 730290;1403546124;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 149 @ 0.04144478 = 6.1753 BTC [-] {11} 730291;1403546612;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.186 = 0.558 BTC [-] {2} 730292;1403546632;fluffypony;sweet! 730293;1403546635;fluffypony;in-flight wifi ftw 730294;1403546644;fluffypony;lol @ upload speed - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3581385036 730295;1403546644;assbot;Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results 730296;1403546645;mircea_popescu;wd. 730297;1403546843;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ransomware/ 730298;1403546978;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19987652 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {3} 730299;1403547124;mircea_popescu;!up jaycutler6969 730300;1403547195;asciilifeform;re: link: mircea_popescu and i must be the last people alive using 'squirrelmail' 730301;1403547204;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane << ahaha srsly, going to the tortilla conference ?! 730302;1403547212;mircea_popescu;please to liveblog. 730303;1403547218;fluffypony;oh I will ;) 730304;1403547227;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform why ? it works just fine 730305;1403547232;asciilifeform;aye, it does 730306;1403547245;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: It has electrolytes, it's what plants crave. 730307;1403547252;mircea_popescu;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqvoRETCQAEr9-L.jpg << somebody's got plans. 730308;1403547253;fluffypony;I love that movie 730309;1403547332;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: i'd love to see how these folks intend to paint india without triggering nuke 'test' 730310;1403547347;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: bet its like ~1100 cals har har << i once had 1800 calories in a single sundae. whatever, it's my hot body and i do what i want! 730311;1403547370;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform nazis took over pappen's govt right ? 730312;1403547379;mircea_popescu;"without a single pane of glass being broken" 730313;1403547388;mircea_popescu;as a certain short ignoramus was fond of pointing out 730314;1403547432;mircea_popescu;rithm: this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone << kinda the point 730315;1403547459;rithm;do you know when i close my irc chat window 730316;1403547476;rithm;i feel watched 730317;1403547479;mircea_popescu;lol 730318;1403547556;mircea_popescu;benkay: are you distancing your afk name from your irc handle? << he didn';t scam anyone afaik. 730319;1403547603;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ << why ? 730320;1403547603;assbot;BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 16 hours ago 730321;1403547710;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04510001 = 0.6314 BTC [-] 730322;1403547787;rithm;did i scam anyone? no. 730323;1403547808;rithm;the only person to successfully scam me has perjured himself in court and is fighting the SEC 730324;1403547819;mircea_popescu;who's this ? 730325;1403547824;mircea_popescu;pirate ? 730326;1403547825;rithm;blow me. 730327;1403547827;rithm;yes 730328;1403547828;mircea_popescu;lol 730329;1403547832;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.0451 = 1.4432 BTC [-] 730330;1403547842;mircea_popescu;i wonder if search finds the more than a car thing lessee 730331;1403547847;rithm;the jimmy buffet dude 730332;1403547863;mircea_popescu;rithm was that convo here or in onepercent ? 730333;1403547863;rithm;perspective is everything 730334;1403547881;rithm;i think more than car, less than a house was here 730335;1403547887;rithm;or pm maybe 730336;1403547902;mircea_popescu;nah i don't do pm with dubious characters 730337;1403547919;rithm;i can send you copies of your if you'd like 730338;1403547923;rithm;pm's i have 730339;1403547932;rithm;not full channels 730340;1403547939;mircea_popescu;me too. 730341;1403547943;mircea_popescu;i log when logged. 730342;1403547944;rithm;sneaky bastard 730343;1403547984;rithm;i hope you didn't log that sonic dematerializer conversation 730344;1403547986;rithm;i was so drunk 730345;1403548005;mircea_popescu;so maliki is going to end up hanged ? 730346;1403548097;rithm;i'm not sure who maliki is but it sounds vaguely religious so i'll just ignore it 730347;1403548152;TomServo;Iraqi PM 730348;1403548159;TomServo;Soon to be former, evidently 730349;1403548186;mircea_popescu;no cause kerry is violently supporting him :D 730350;1403548191;kakobrekla;;;later tell bitcoinpete did you get the answer? 730351;1403548192;gribble;The operation succeeded. 730352;1403548200;kakobrekla;mircea_popescu hm? compact disc them? 730353;1403548209;mircea_popescu;cease and dessist 730354;1403548233;kakobrekla;meh 730355;1403548240;mircea_popescu;myeah. 730356;1403548245;kakobrekla;there will be plenty of those irrelevant of what we do 730357;1403548248;mircea_popescu;i just wrote a good and serious article 730358;1403548250;FabianB;$trades 730359;1403548252;mircea_popescu;as pankkake observed 730360;1403548292;FabianB;$traded 730361;1403548292;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 730362;1403548377;Mats_cd03;maliki is going to end up living in london 730363;1403548391;mircea_popescu;bet ? 730364;1403548403;Mats_cd03;sending his kids to oxford and the like 730365;1403548454;Mats_cd03;ok, terms? whether he lives out the year? 730366;1403548495;mircea_popescu;what year. 730367;1403548508;Mats_cd03;23jun2015 730368;1403548540;mircea_popescu;if by august 15h maliki has been hanged in the middle east, bet resolves as yes. if he's living in lonon, bet resolves as no. otherwise, bet cancels. 730369;1403548561;asciilifeform;isn't this 'badbet'? 730370;1403548571;asciilifeform;or can we bet on any hanging now 730371;1403548576;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform what assasin ever hangs anyone ? 730372;1403548581;mircea_popescu;it'd be a penal proceeding 730373;1403548607;mircea_popescu;not likely that someone sneaks into baghdad and surrepitiously hangs the pm 730374;1403548619;asciilifeform;didn't they hang that btc exchange chick in Sg ? 730375;1403548636;mircea_popescu;what ?! 730376;1403548647;asciilifeform;the one found in apartment lobby with rope marks 730377;1403548658;mircea_popescu;ok, publicly hanged 730378;1403548663;asciilifeform;ah ok 730379;1403548665;rithm;iraq is shitshow 730380;1403548672;rithm;a big hole some moron threw money into 730381;1403548692;asciilifeform;it's +EV for the folks in charge of the show 730382;1403548693;Mats_cd03;300M morons. 730383;1403548701;asciilifeform;(u.s. firms who get to churn inventory) 730384;1403548722;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 moar like 1-2 bn 730385;1403548749;Mats_cd03;hows that 730386;1403548753;rithm;not sure why i tried to some singular entity but it feels nice to do 730387;1403548768;rithm;*blame 730388;1403548775;rithm;i accidentally a word 730389;1403548802;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03 maybe we're talking at xpurposes, was your 300mn the total money thrown in the hole ? 730390;1403548812;*;asciilifeform dreamt last night that he was to be hanged, but couldn't afford to pay for the roap and the grease - so was sent home to save up. 730391;1403548844;Mats_cd03;nah us population 730392;1403548865;mircea_popescu;a 730393;1403548882;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform "i was sentenced to hang but i ated it" 730394;1403548922;kakobrekla;grease? 730395;1403548938;mike_c;tar and feather before hanging 730396;1403548953;kakobrekla;a. 730397;1403549845;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42769 @ 0.00080389 = 34.3816 BTC [+] {3} 730398;1403549914;benkay;mircea_popescu: when do we get 2year bitbets? 730399;1403549930;Mats_cd03;proposal submitted, waiting on jurov to clear funds 730400;1403549950;mircea_popescu;benkay the day you're ready to zerconf 1k btc for a 2 year bet. 730401;1403550051;jurov;Mats_cd03: which proposal? maybe i can add onto it 730402;1403550150;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04527103 = 0.5433 BTC [+] 730403;1403550206;Mats_cd03;Maliki is hanged 730404;1403550262;benkay;mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything? 730405;1403550516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8212 @ 0.00080261 = 6.591 BTC [-] 730406;1403550588;benkay;mircea_popescu: "oppinion" on ransomware 730407;1403550920;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: no, didn't get the answer 730408;1403550950;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: because http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729957 ... 730409;1403550951;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 730410;1403550975;bitcoinpete;curious what the cut-off is on bitbets for future reference 730411;1403550993;bitcoinpete;1 hr before they can possibly by resolved? 6 hrs? 730412;1403551045;bitcoinpete;i completely understand that betting after an event has occurred, even if the bet is still "open" warrants a simple refund less admin fee 730413;1403551078;bitcoinpete;but there's an undefined (to me) grey area prior to that point 730414;1403551097;bitcoinpete;i've little doubt that this has arisen before 730415;1403551115;bitcoinpete;i'm just not familiar with the sop 730416;1403551119;mike_c;^ this is also applicable to the "in-game betting" conversation from the other day 730417;1403551131;bitcoinpete;right 730418;1403551137;bitcoinpete;that's the scenario here 730419;1403551164;bitcoinpete;i don't recall, was there a consensus following that conversation? 730420;1403551191;mike_c;well, the consensus was to do it and all the world cup expiration dates were moved out. 730421;1403551234;mike_c;you can probably dig it up with the fancy new search tool. 730422;1403551293;bitcoinpete;thanks be to mthreat 730423;1403551364;nubbins`;http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif 730424;1403551393;kakobrekla;bitcoinpete i dun think theres any hardcoded rule, mods call it and then you can bitch about it here 730425;1403551430;mircea_popescu;<benkay> mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything? << bitbet is a business, eh ? ran for profit. 730426;1403551445;mircea_popescu;&ty 730427;1403551446;gribble;Error: "ty" is not a valid command. 730428;1403551535;mircea_popescu;lolk 730429;1403551590;thestringpuller;free chily! 730430;1403551614;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.1999 = 1.3993 BTC [+] 730431;1403551675;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+] 730432;1403551930;thestringpuller;;;ud stack cheddar 730433;1403551931;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stack%20cheddar | Nov 9, 2007 ... Download the Free App! 1. stack cheddar. To make lots of money. Hustlin. "Get on your grind son. Stack cheddar." by Mooner November 09, ... 730434;1403551963;benkay;isn't PKI a nsa plant? 730435;1403551963;thestringpuller;Or "Mircea Popescu be stackin' cheddar" 730436;1403552021;kakobrekla;>>FUCK YOU BITFINEX YOU FILTHY FRONT RUNNING FAKE VOLUME THIEVING FUCKING FRENCH CUNTS! WHERE WAS THE 50 BTC ORDER THAT WAS RIGHT BEHIND MY FUCKING STOP LOSS YOU FUCKING ROBBING RAT BASTARDS!" 730437;1403552022;kakobrekla;lol 730438;1403552027;kakobrekla;they arent even french. 730439;1403552049;mircea_popescu;lmao 730440;1403552078;mircea_popescu;"o no, we know better than mp, let's use scam sites" 730441;1403552087;mircea_popescu;"o shit we got robbed by a scamsite HURRRRR" 730442;1403552087;kakobrekla;mhm 730443;1403552115;davout;kakobrekla: the owner is! 730444;1403552125;bitcoinpete;sorry, was just having a bite on the patio here at the mac 730445;1403552137;kakobrekla;oh? i thought it was asians. 730446;1403552151;mircea_popescu;some idiot frenchman was involvedat some time 730447;1403552161;bitcoinpete;so nao i'm curious who moderated that costa rica bet if not kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ? 730448;1403552162;mircea_popescu;but who knows 730449;1403552163;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04532308 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {3} 730450;1403552170;davout;i rkn he still is 730451;1403552172;mircea_popescu;it's zhou and his collector friend just as well 730452;1403552181;kakobrekla;bitcoinpete neither of the said. :( 730453;1403552185;davout;raphael nicolle 730454;1403552192;davout;never met the dude 730455;1403552193;bitcoinpete;blargh! 730456;1403552199;mircea_popescu;davout you see my point. 730457;1403552209;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete you'll never know. 730458;1403552211;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: can either of your adjudicate? 730459;1403552224;kakobrekla;if mp sez so 730460;1403552228;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: that's fine as long as my case can be plead 730461;1403552229;mircea_popescu;in principle eithger of us can, historically we never have. 730462;1403552234;mircea_popescu;go ahead 730463;1403552251;bitcoinpete;ty 730464;1403552264;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: '...know better than to get involved with the armed retinue of a lord...' << see interesting example - the private army of gazprom (said to contain own tank corps, aviation, etc.) - nobody fucks with it, scarcely anyone even mentions it. 730465;1403552266;mircea_popescu;pleas are to the gods anyway, rather than specific people. 730466;1403552275;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform indeed. 730467;1403552279;bitcoinpete;as previously mentioned, costa rica was playing its second world cup game on friday 730468;1403552306;bitcoinpete;there are 3 games in the opening round, though it's possible to advance after only two games 730469;1403552349;bitcoinpete;in the 55th minute, give or take a few, a bet was placed that costa rica would win the match and therefore advance 730470;1403552357;bitcoinpete;the bet was confirmed 730471;1403552368;bitcoinpete;with >30' of play remaining in the game 730472;1403552373;bitcoinpete;costa rica won the game 730473;1403552376;bitcoinpete;and advanced 730474;1403552397;bitcoinpete;this in-game bet was rejected 730475;1403552398;bitcoinpete;http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 730476;1403552398;assbot;BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago 730477;1403552398;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: '...bright young men that hadnt gone though the compiler and complexity modules of their CS programme' << i actually watched the beginnings of this change at my uni. various things were made optional, and the audiences became 'pocket sized' 730478;1403552400;mircea_popescu;http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 this one you mean ? 730479;1403552400;assbot;BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago 730480;1403552414;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: precisement 730481;1403552446;mircea_popescu;game was at 20 June 2014 13:00 gmt ? 730482;1403552468;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5238 @ 0.00080226 = 4.2022 BTC [-] 730483;1403552525;bitcoinpete;just confirming... 730484;1403552527;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: 'operating systems' and 'compilers' (traditionally considered the gnarliest subjects in the department, outside of the required maths) were already optional and barely attended. 730485;1403552558;mircea_popescu;sucks, you know, to go to a place of learning for the purpose of not learning 730486;1403552558;bitcoinpete;http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=255931/match=300186500/index.html#nosticky 730487;1403552559;assbot;2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil: Italy-Costa Rica - Overview - FIFA.com 730488;1403552573;bitcoinpete;13:00 local time 730489;1403552575;mircea_popescu;like going to work in a brothel as a rpude 730490;1403552583;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete so 16:00 gmt ? 730491;1403552594;asciilifeform;;;ud rpude 730492;1403552595;gribble;Google found nothing. 730493;1403552604;mircea_popescu;prude 730494;1403552607;asciilifeform;Aha 730495;1403552630;bitcoinpete;recife is utc - 03:00 730496;1403552645;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete even if there's some sort of daylight savings time stuff, its 17;00 gmt at the latest, the bet is half hour or so after close 730497;1403552654;mircea_popescu;this may be because it took a while to confirm, but anyhow 730498;1403552769;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: that doesn't add up 730499;1403552782;bitcoinpete;game starts at 1600 730500;1403552791;bitcoinpete;half time at 1645 730501;1403552792;mircea_popescu;aha 730502;1403552800;bitcoinpete;restart game at 1700 730503;1403552815;bitcoinpete;bet confirmed at 1732 730504;1403552839;bitcoinpete;game concludes no later than 1750 730505;1403552851;mircea_popescu;wow check that out, it just HAILED in BA. 730506;1403552853;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete hm. 730507;1403552864;punkman;http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html 730508;1403552864;assbot;Just-News @ Just-Dice: Betting and Depositing Disabled on JD and DD 730509;1403552872;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: my thoughts exactly 730510;1403552878;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: '...enforce their superiority over the popular guards' << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014&bots=true#511301 730511;1403552879;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 730512;1403552900;mircea_popescu;wow jd just closed ? 730513;1403552903;mircea_popescu;dooglus you selling it ? 730514;1403552952;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: so where do we go from here? 730515;1403552984;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete well, i see your point, ima have to argue nao. 730516;1403552996;asciilifeform;seems like it was banned ? 730517;1403553017;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform guy lives in canada 730518;1403553029;asciilifeform;right - banned there 730519;1403553102;FabianB;!mpif 730520;1403553103;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] 730521;1403553138;punkman;!jd --mpif 730522;1403553147;punkman;!jd mpif 730523;1403553148;assbot;Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.25671059 BTC; -0.14834219 BTC (-0.0860%) since last check 1d 4h 17m 52s ago. 730524;1403553259;bitcoinpete;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html 730525;1403553259;assbot;German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg 730526;1403553272;bitcoinpete;“Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.” 730527;1403553275;bitcoinpete;such lulz 730528;1403553294;bitcoinpete;"“The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. " 730529;1403553362;jurov;http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27973473 kinda related :D 730530;1403553362;assbot;BBC News - Poland leak: Radek Sikorski scorns 'worthless' US ties 730531;1403553386;jurov;"the Polish-US alliance isn't worth anything" 730532;1403553507;ThickAsThieves;<+mike_c> so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at 54.197.241.190 // Having trouble finding where to do this in Namecheap... bear with me 730533;1403553725;Blazedout419;bitcoinpete you ever sell off those Lealana coins? 730534;1403553772;bitcoinpete;Blazedout419: nope 730535;1403553786;Blazedout419;My offer still stands anytime :) 730536;1403553888;mircea_popescu;!up ArsKisS 730537;1403553959;FabianB;dooglus is canadian? i thought australian 730538;1403553971;mircea_popescu;nah 730539;1403553972;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/SNrVRty.jpg 730540;1403554021;fluffypony;I am completely fascinated by my ability to sit on IRC on a plane 730541;1403554027;fluffypony;modern teknologiez 730542;1403554032;mircea_popescu;cool huh 730543;1403554047;mircea_popescu;business class + irc = no loner matters how long the flight is 730544;1403554067;fluffypony;exactly 730545;1403554079;mircea_popescu;is blondy bored ? 730546;1403554086;rithm;ah the bag o nuts 730547;1403554093;fluffypony;she's at home with the 6 dogs 730548;1403554098;fluffypony;so she's plenty busy 730549;1403554106;mircea_popescu;oh. 730550;1403554108;rithm;it's been a few years now since the 'ol bag of nuts and i were together 730551;1403554137;fluffypony;rithm: so you're saying you lost your nuts? 730552;1403554143;rithm;yep 730553;1403554348;mircea_popescu;meanwhile http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcds7oq5uN1qc3ldvo1_500.jpg 730554;1403554441;mircea_popescu;;;isitdown blockchain.info 730555;1403554442;gribble;blockchain.info is up 730556;1403554456;FabianB;hm. there was no bitbet for jd closure 730557;1403554492;mircea_popescu;indeed 730558;1403554565;ThickAsThieves;mike_c seeds.therealaltcoin.org is now set up as CNAME 54.197.241.190 - I don't think it's propagated yet tho 730559;1403554609;fluffypony;good job, ThickAsThieves 730560;1403554640;mircea_popescu;for mpif holders : dooglus paid, j.dice mpif investment withdrawn safely, https://blockchain.info/tx/c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f 730561;1403554640;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f 730562;1403554669;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: like the whole investment withdrawn? 730563;1403554674;fluffypony;did I miss a blog post 730564;1403554685;mircea_popescu;fluffypony it's in the logs ya 730565;1403554691;mircea_popescu;(debb's post, not mine) 730566;1403554691;fluffypony;kk 730567;1403554742;mircea_popescu;and also, slut training footage : http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8a78xrXV1ra163eo8_r1_250.gif 730568;1403554797;FabianB;hopefully no-one has bots trading on basis of http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ :) 730569;1403554798;assbot;F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha 730570;1403554860;mircea_popescu;mike_c 0E-8 srsly ? 730571;1403554915;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: i'm off for today and i look forward to hearing from you on the costa rica bet. it would make a lovely birthday present! 730572;1403554927;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: turning 29 again? 730573;1403554939;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: getting there ;) 730574;1403554945;fluffypony;heh heh 730575;1403554957;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: have fun in estonia 730576;1403554966;fluffypony;I shall live blog it 730577;1403554981;bitcoinpete;make sure to include restaurant recommendations 730578;1403554995;bitcoinpete;cheers! 730579;1403555100;mircea_popescu;http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/162822/us-dollar-opens-steady-at-815-pesos-all-eyes-on-blue-dollar 730580;1403555105;mircea_popescu;heh 730581;1403555261;pankkake;http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA 730582;1403555261;assbot;Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube 730583;1403555538;pankkake;btw: http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK 730584;1403555538;assbot;BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 5.94 B (44%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 39`983 (100`000 to 1) 730585;1403556372;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0445 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {2} 730586;1403556738;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04667441 = 0.7001 BTC [+] {3} 730587;1403556799;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0008043 = 13.4318 BTC [+] 730588;1403557531;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33873 @ 0.00080304 = 27.2014 BTC [-] {2} 730589;1403557714;assbot;[MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 3000 @ 0.0002151 = 0.6453 BTC [-] 730590;1403558157;mike_c;0e-8 is more zero than 0 730591;1403558166;danielpbarron;https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384 730592;1403558167;assbot;I just ran into a fellow /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets user at /hashtag/porcfest?src=hash! That's worth a +2 in the /hashtag/WoT?src=hash. http://t.co/oI2PHHgK6u 730593;1403558187;fluffypony;dat /hashtag/ 730594;1403558205;fluffypony;right, going to try sleep a bit, cheers 730595;1403558207;danielpbarron;kyuupichan, you can voice yourself now :D 730596;1403558324;TheNewDeal;wtf is porcfest 730597;1403558391;danielpbarron;libertarian tent-city 730598;1403558453;TheNewDeal;ahhhh not bad 730599;1403558469;TheNewDeal;not a porcupine freedom festival? 730600;1403558477;danielpbarron;ya that's it 730601;1403558497;TheNewDeal;looks kinda like a hippy fest 730602;1403558517;danielpbarron;hippies with guns 730603;1403558527;TheNewDeal;ooooh 730604;1403558527;mike_c;!mpif 730605;1403558527;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-] 730606;1403558710;TheNewDeal;gotta go scout the hotel happy hour 730607;1403558727;TheNewDeal;hydrate with some free light beer 730608;1403558873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14954 @ 0.00080025 = 11.9669 BTC [-] {3} 730609;1403558898;mike_c;;;later tell ThickAsThieves it needs to be a NS record, not a CNAME 730610;1403558898;gribble;The operation succeeded. 730611;1403559130;TheNewDeal;scratch that, bringing the laptop and making this a party 730612;1403559969;jborkl;finished up the "block found by" and I will be putting that online tomorrow 730613;1403560032;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02162138 = 1.5135 BTC [+] {10} 730614;1403560398;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04698667 = 2.8192 BTC [+] {4} 730615;1403560433;mircea_popescu;!up l337 730616;1403560520;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.04699966 = 1.692 BTC [+] {3} 730617;1403560525;l337;thanks. any plans on purchasing JD if doog is up for selling it mircea_popescu? 730618;1403560535;mircea_popescu;maybe. 730619;1403560590;l337;would be awesome 730620;1403560737;TheNewDeal;how does JD continue to exist? Don't stupid people go broke? 730621;1403560778;mthreat;ya, then take loans 730622;1403560798;mike_c;on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping. 730623;1403560814;mike_c;but who knows why 730624;1403560868;TheNewDeal;true about casinos 730625;1403560873;pankkake;more gambling venues? 730626;1403560911;mike_c;like who? its dropped a lot. set new all-time-lows 3 out of 6 months this year. 730627;1403560965;mike_c;could be player-fatigue (rolling dice is only so much fun). could be competition, but i don't know who. 730628;1403560997;mike_c;still though, 60k in wager volume a month is a nice business. 730629;1403561036;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete teh court finds your arguments persuasive. 730630;1403561060;mircea_popescu;mike_c that "a month" kinda impleis it's stable. it's not that stable it seems. 730631;1403561104;mike_c;hm. a return to 6 digit wager volume would surprise me. but it's quite possible new management could make it happen. 730632;1403561168;mike_c;first 8 months were all > 100k, last 4 months were all well below. 730633;1403561252;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00079488 = 18.8784 BTC [-] 730634;1403561313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04799999 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2} 730635;1403561342;mike_c;certainly still has some value. i'm sure he will get multiple offers. 730636;1403561443;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.16199681 BTC. Current weight: 5,498. 730637;1403561490;TheNewDeal;Return is still to high not to attract bets... 730638;1403561518;TheNewDeal;5.4% over 8 days 730639;1403561523;mircea_popescu;provided he even wants to sell. 730640;1403561567;mike_c;this seems like a pretext to get out, no? but maybe he just wants to walk away. 730641;1403561668;mircea_popescu;mike_c he could just keep it on play money for a month or w/e while he moves to argentina. 730642;1403561681;mike_c;hehe. true. 730643;1403561740;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.047 = 4.7 BTC [-] {2} 730644;1403561801;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04547644 = 0.955 BTC [-] {2} 730645;1403561818;TheNewDeal;who runs JD? 730646;1403561844;mike_c;dooglus 730647;1403561863;TheNewDeal;he's joining the MP crowd in LaArgentina? 730648;1403561894;mthreat;wow that rumor didn't take long 730649;1403561913;mircea_popescu;lol 730650;1403561941;TheNewDeal;didn't take mp to be a rumorist 730651;1403561945;TheNewDeal;my bad 730652;1403561945;mircea_popescu;honestly, him selling out'd be a net negative for btc 730653;1403561952;mircea_popescu;how many competen managers do you know of ? 730654;1403561966;jborkl;2 730655;1403562002;mircea_popescu;jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ? 730656;1403562005;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal what did I do! 730657;1403562014;jborkl;hahahahaha, oh man 730658;1403562019;jborkl;I sharted 730659;1403562031;TheNewDeal;starting rumors about your posse in argentina of course 730660;1403562070;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal you know mthreat is in argentina right ? 730661;1403562076;TheNewDeal;if you need a grease monkey to work on your machines, give me a call 730662;1403562080;TheNewDeal;CNC * 730663;1403562198;l337;mircea_popescu: is doog moving to argentina because of this? 730664;1403562213;mircea_popescu;lol how would i know! 730665;1403562240;mircea_popescu;i merely pointed out extemporaneously that he doesnm't have to necessarily sell or close down 730666;1403562250;mircea_popescu;he could just get out of fucktardlandia too 730667;1403562256;l337;got it, I took it literally what you said 730668;1403562301;jborkl;nm got the "found by" online now just have to fill in a few blanks 730669;1403562472;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.04342691 = 2.0845 BTC [-] {2} 730670;1403562496;mike_c;www.coindesk.com/mp-says-dooglus-moving-to-argentina/ 730671;1403562501;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/betting-just-dice-halted-due-regulation/ 730672;1403562531;mircea_popescu;this is trollage! 730673;1403562552;benkay; jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ? // they actually *hire* managers, if you'd believe it. 730674;1403562593;mircea_popescu;benkay im sure they do, because with their great reputation there's a bunch of smart, qualified people wanting to work for them. 730675;1403562608;mircea_popescu;brb while i get my snark refilled 730676;1403562614;mircea_popescu;that sentence taped me out. 730677;1403562662;benkay;well they still have to work their asses off to hire both the managers and those who toil under the managers. 730678;1403562742;mircea_popescu;they could just post on reddit. 730679;1403562838;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0430001 = 0.559 BTC [-] {2} 730680;1403563021;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.04205659 = 2.229 BTC [-] {4} 730681;1403563177;asciilifeform;betcha plenty of folks would move to Ar, but... are waiting for mircea_popescu to terraform it. 730682;1403563190;TheNewDeal;lol 730683;1403563198;TheNewDeal;with cocaine ecoli? 730684;1403563215;mircea_popescu;no they just don't like tight cona 730685;1403563221;asciilifeform;build the radiation dome, fill with breathable air, impale the capital controls idiots, etc 730686;1403563570;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2048 = 0.6144 BTC [+] 730687;1403563571;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00079322 = 18.0854 BTC [-] {2} 730688;1403563575;*;asciilifeform found out that japan still makes hardware 'word processors.' mindfuck of the day. 730689;1403563628;benkay;link or gtfo 730690;1403563630;mircea_popescu;coincidentally, i saw one today 730691;1403563637;asciilifeform;;;google pomera word processor 730692;1403563638;gribble;Pomera DM 100 Distraction free Word processor - Japanese product ...: ; Digital Memo Pomera : DigInfo - YouTube: ; King Jim Pomera DM10 – the pocket friendly word-processor | The ...: 730693;1403563649;asciilifeform;^ actual electrical appliance where you key in and save plain ascii. 730694;1403563752;asciilifeform;(my position on the subject: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-2909) 730695;1403563754;assbot;Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin 730696;1403563778;asciilifeform;'I would dearly love a dedicated word processor... runs for months on one battery charge, never crashes, presents no distractions, and, shortly, isnt a PC. Not being a PC (or, more specifically, not running a PC operating system) is a truly under-rated and beautiful feature in any gadget.' 730697;1403564103;asciilifeform;i always found it interesting how much functionality one... loses by rolling a 'general purpose' computer into a product. not even concerning security and the like. 730698;1403564150;asciilifeform;i've seen actual novelists confess to owning '80s laptops which... boot into 'wordstar.' but try using one away from mains current. 730699;1403564311;jurov;kindle variant with physical keyboard isn't far actually 730700;1403564339;asciilifeform;jurov: you must mean something other than the keyboard already found on that machine ? 730701;1403564347;asciilifeform;because it's quite unusable 730702;1403564410;jurov;yes it needs better keyboard, and hinge 730703;1403564437;asciilifeform;and an os that doesn't bomb 730704;1403564449;jurov;would such device ever pay for itself? 730705;1403564479;asciilifeform;perhaps in japan. where they seem to remember the appeal of 'machine that does one thing well.' 730706;1403564694;Mats_cd03;best burrito i ever had was in .jp 730707;1403564716;Mats_cd03;and ive lived in socal and mexico. 730708;1403564913;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00078845 = 10.7229 BTC [-] 730709;1403569527;mircea_popescu;!up Pilate 730710;1403569728;thestringpuller;;;seen BingoBoingo 730711;1403569729;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 15 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: benkay: Wait till you get to the comments 730712;1403569731;thestringpuller;lol 730713;1403569732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04773875 = 0.9548 BTC [+] 730714;1403569743;thestringpuller;!mpif 730715;1403569745;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-] 730716;1403569747;thestringpuller;!ticker m s.mpoe 730717;1403569747;assbot;[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078845 / 0.00080967 / 0.0008496 (918961 shares, 744.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00078845 / 0.00081687 / 0.00087778 (4595649 shares, 3,754.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00078845 / 0.0008462 / 0.00093337 (23860305 shares, 20,190.70 BTC) 730718;1403569767;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 730719;1403569767;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.0002151 / 0.0002151 / 0.0002151 (4000 shares, 0.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021534 / 0.00021726 (4500 shares, 0.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021632 / 0.00021726 (30680 shares, 6.64 BTC) 730720;1403569817;TheNewDeal;Pilate, like Pontius? 730721;1403570491;mircea_popescu;!up tjader 730722;1403570792;thestringpuller;;;calc .45 * 2 730723;1403570792;gribble;0.9 730724;1403570798;thestringpuller;;;calc .45 * 0.007 730725;1403570800;gribble;0.00315 730726;1403570810;TheNewDeal;I was gonna say, .45*2, relaly? 730727;1403570823;thestringpuller;i was distracted 730728;1403570848;TheNewDeal;I could be marginally comatose and still get away with that 730729;1403570875;TheNewDeal;just having some fun. I've been lazy with calculators before as well 730730;1403570960;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/0b755cd262494d8bad72f34f0d1d9741/tumblr_mjais3vdoN1qij4o1o1_500.jpg 730731;1403570987;TheNewDeal;gotta stay away from these links on the work laptop... 730732;1403570998;mircea_popescu;defo 730733;1403571134;TheNewDeal;I'll just blame it on assbot for not giving me a description 730734;1403571265;mircea_popescu;it's an ass bot, what do you want from it 730735;1403571428;TheNewDeal;tell me what type of ass is featured in the webpage 730736;1403571435;TheNewDeal;0 being no ass, 1 being ass 730737;1403571460;mircea_popescu;!up cfused__ 730738;1403571994;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/ec4c4ed0fcf83793b5bf16a6841e5718/tumblr_n2pr89VWnK1r09wbpo1_400.gif << money! 730739;1403572192;TheNewDeal;monopoly money 730740;1403572246;mircea_popescu;i thought you didn't do links off work lappy 730741;1403572538;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.0451 = 1.804 BTC [-] 730742;1403572751;TheNewDeal;I said I SHOULDN"T 730743;1403572765;TheNewDeal;that's like the exact opposite of "didn't" 730744;1403572776;mircea_popescu;a ok 730745;1403572788;mircea_popescu;http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4d84c288cd8b25771b067c683a6f682/tumblr_n1qm9sBhgH1t1ja2oo1_400.gif have a prize then 730746;1403572809;TheNewDeal;gracias 730747;1403574841;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Tesla stock to close at over $250 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/955/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 91(Y):9(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.99 BTC. Current weight: 98,378. 730748;1403575046;TheNewDeal;jeez its already at 237 730749;1403577863;Mats_cd03;i thought it was a little low 730750;1403577870;Mats_cd03;no accounting for musk mania 730751;1403578514;BingoBoingo; wow check that out, it just HAILED in BA << Is hail not a familiar mode of weather for you? 730752;1403578744;BingoBoingo;mike_c: on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping. << I imagine this is another natural part of having harder money. 730753;1403579004;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20481145 = 0.6144 BTC [+] {2} 730754;1403579021;BingoBoingo;%diff 730755;1403579024;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 446874.29 in 13 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.53 730756;1403579248;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/nsa-spook-turned-twitter-pundit-goes-dark-after-dick-pi-1594848048 730757;1403579249;assbot;NSA Spook-Turned-Twitter-Pundit Goes Dark After Dick Pic Surfaces 730758;1403580247;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SPavcCPR--/781452780514729000.jpg 730759;1403580330;BingoBoingo;http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-the-biggest-companies-are-from-each-state-in-the-u-1595079772/+caseychan 730760;1403580331;assbot;What the biggest companies are from each state in the US 730761;1403580377;BingoBoingo;Points got to West Virgina where "West Virginia University Hospitals, Inc." is the largest company based there by revenue 730762;1403581104;BingoBoingo;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10918321/Football-match-fixing-deal-casts-cloud-over-World-Cup.html 730763;1403581105;assbot;Football match-fixing deal casts cloud over World Cup - Telegraph 730764;1403582197;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: what do you usually build with on ancient mac os ? 730765;1403582271;benkay;ugh u guise i got a nasty virus 730766;1403582314;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Hypercard usually. There's bound to be better tools, but... It tends to work for ancient Mac things 730767;1403582344;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i meant - traditional C 730768;1403582380;benkay;haskell invaded my computer 730769;1403582384;BingoBoingo;That's a good question. I actually don't know if there are any good tools for it. 730770;1403582385;asciilifeform;lol 730771;1403582506;BingoBoingo;I've look at Mac OS 6-7.5.1 dev tools, but... That route tends to lead to shitty implementations of pascal or resedit and 68k assembly 730772;1403582714;BingoBoingo;Any interesting C programming generally is going to mean moving from mac os to A/UX which... means finding a suitable Mac (68030 based generally) and a hard drive of sufficent capacity 730773;1403582816;BingoBoingo;I've never really done much with C though, haven't done anything with C on an ancient Mac. Problems that tend to push me to finally string together some code tend to be further up the stack. 730774;1403583122;BingoBoingo;One dilema I ponder on sometimes is whether the beauty of the ancient macs was due to the talent of the developers, or due to the beauty of 68k assembly. 730775;1403583145;asciilifeform;constraints. 730776;1403583164;asciilifeform;no space for a multi-GB turd. 730777;1403583219;BingoBoingo;Comments from the loper blog now make me think of http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/TempleOS.html when I think of successors to the ancient Mac OS legacy 730778;1403583220;assbot;The Temple Operating System 730779;1403583287;moiety;mew 730780;1403583317;asciilifeform;moiety: latest cat count on street == 17. 730781;1403583388;moiety;o.O 730782;1403583406;moiety;make it 16 asciilifeform .. go on, you know you want to 730783;1403583472;moiety;i just heard about this doge TMing business, and i can't stop laughing 730784;1403583516;BingoBoingo;With a sufficient monetary surplus I think an interesting project would be, introducing feral cats to obesity 730785;1403583541;*;moiety volunteers as a feeder 730786;1403583551;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: doesn't work - they multiply 730787;1403583572;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That's the interesting problem 730788;1403583575;moiety;win-win? multiple barrel-cats 730789;1403583616;moiety;what if they got too fat to mate? 730790;1403583619;BingoBoingo;The less interesting challenge is they migrate. 730791;1403583667;moiety;and the only ones that could migrate were those uphill that could roll 730792;1403583711;BingoBoingo;moiety: But the challenge it introduces is soon you have ALL the feral cats to feed 730793;1403583733;moiety;all teh kittehs - challenge accepted 730794;1403583820;moiety;someone in the extended family has a pregnant cat.. i may be forced to rehome a small being shortly 730795;1403583834;BingoBoingo;Of course you the decreases the value of feral cats. Useful ferals like useful farm cats need to catch vermin 730796;1403583881;BingoBoingo;moiety: From your ghetto "BingoB you you need meet chi so the two of you can talk about mauls for days" 730797;1403583922;moiety;christ, who's been bothering you? obviously don't know us that well lol 730798;1403583958;BingoBoingo;moiety: I just popped on, was I think you should just unilaterally switch the site to altcoin and change the mascots to Manuls 730799;1403583976;asciilifeform;moiety: a question that's been bugging me for years: are there actually distinct species (in the biologist's sense) of cat. 730800;1403583987;asciilifeform;afaik every hybrid that's ever been attempted in earnest - worked. 730801;1403583989;moiety;i miss btc .. this crowd is making me lose sanity/... oh was that the beep i heard? 730802;1403584057;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: That is the very interesting question. I dunno if cats meaningfully have "species" 730803;1403584064;moiety;asciilifeform: yes, i believe so. like the bobcat we were discussing. or manuls. they are fundementally different from others.. eg manuls have round pupils 730804;1403584090;BingoBoingo;Except maybe the cheetah with it's canid features. Might not hybridize well. 730805;1403584097;asciilifeform;moiety: sure, they look quite different. but normally 'species' is defined as a set of individuals which can interbreed. 730806;1403584126;asciilifeform;pretty much every 'felis' hybrid has been tried, afaik, and worked 730807;1403584132;asciilifeform;likewise panthera 730808;1403584145;asciilifeform;(tiglon, jiger, etc) 730809;1403584156;asciilifeform;leopon. 730810;1403584191;asciilifeform;examples of felis - 'savannah cat' (domesticus + african serval) 730811;1403584202;moiety;ah.. then yeah, not that i know of either 730812;1403584203;asciilifeform;search, youtube is full of hybrid felis 730813;1403584240;asciilifeform;then the '$64k question' - can we bridge felis and panthera? 730814;1403584245;asciilifeform;i.e. does there exist 'bridge cat' 730815;1403584259;asciilifeform;a felis that can breed with some panthera 730816;1403584265;moiety;asciilifeform: your opinion on word sound.... for my site (eventually) felidae or felinae sound better to you? 730817;1403584273;moiety;i think with felis and panthera we come into a size issue? 730818;1403584277;asciilifeform;afaik felidae is standard 730819;1403584306;asciilifeform;size issue << this is for the 'farmer' to solve via the usual means (artificial insemination) 730820;1403584378;BingoBoingo;Headline "Tomcat behind highway rest stop knocks up Zoo lioness" 730821;1403584425;moiety;BingoBoingo: ah yes thats the mid-sex-change dramatis lilyius. a testing pillar of "my ghetto" 730822;1403584433;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04599644 = 0.552 BTC [-] {2} 730823;1403584436;*;asciilifeform can't seem to find his copy of 'felid hybrids' (great 1970s monograph) 730824;1403584468;asciilifeform;^ claimed a successful 'house lynx' 730825;1403584546;moiety;when they do hybrid, they do seem to turn out just smaller versions of the bigger species 730826;1403584597;BingoBoingo;moiety: Not always smaller... The main coon is no longer the largest "domestic" cat 730827;1403584611;asciilifeform;who holds the record? 730828;1403584617;*;asciilifeform almost expects to hear 'longcat' 730829;1403584675;moiety;i do believe it is main coons for the record. they /are/ gigantic 730830;1403584681;moiety;no longer? 730831;1403584691;moiety;what is now 730832;1403584700;BingoBoingo;;;google savannah cat 730833;1403584700;gribble;Savannah cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Savannahs For Sale Savannah Cats For Sale - A1 Savannahs: ; A Beautiful Relationship - Savannah Cat MAGIC and Andreas Stucki ...: 730834;1403584725;moiety;so my dream of a giant manul is not unthinkable? 730835;1403584786;moiety;i shall ride the shops on it 730836;1403584790;moiety;to the * 730837;1403584796;BingoBoingo;Not all savannah cats are huge, but in the later generations they get Big 730838;1403584797;asciilifeform;some years ago, a savannah cat escaped in my town, and caused idiots to panic 730839;1403584803;asciilifeform;(they thought it was man-eating) 730840;1403584837;moiety;i'd be camping outside with a camera 730841;1403584852;BingoBoingo;It probably should have been if they paniced like that 730842;1403584877;asciilifeform;(as i recall, savannah cat is bred in only a few places, and sells for ~$20k each) 730843;1403584886;BingoBoingo;moiety: You first challenge probably is "manul with robust immune system" 730844;1403584926;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: give it another two decades, and you'll find them among the other ferals 730845;1403584961;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: not so sure about this. ferals tend to be small - probably adaptive, considering the food supply 730846;1403584983;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: People don't have small dogs in your neighborhood? 730847;1403584989;asciilifeform;lol 730848;1403585006;moiety;true they are so fragile D; 730849;1403585074;BingoBoingo;So a friend adopted a kitten, looks like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cat-MaineCoon-Cookie.png hasn't stopped growing yet. I'm wondering when to break the news... 730850;1403585074;assbot;File:Cat-MaineCoon-Cookie.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 730851;1403585188;moiety;just at any point before they need both arms to pick it up BB 730852;1403585310;BingoBoingo;He worries that it is getting "fat" but... It grows in every direction. 730853;1403585409;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 394 @ 0.04213652 = 16.6018 BTC [-] {25} 730854;1403585410;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00078709 = 7.3986 BTC [-] 730855;1403585472;BingoBoingo;Including "mouth span" 730856;1403585898;moiety;cats don't seem to grow like dogs either. as in reaching a certain size at a certain age and stopping. mine have kept growing (albeit slowly) until mid-age 730857;1403585917;BingoBoingo;Despite Barricellis pioneering experiments, barely anyone remembers him. I have not heard of him to tell you the truth, says Mark Bedau, professor of humanities and philosophy at Reed College and editor of the journal Artificial Life. I probably know more about the history than most in the field and Im not aware of him. http://nautil.us/issue/14/mutation/meet-the-father-of-digital-life 730858;1403585918;assbot;Meet the Father of Digital Life - Issue 14: Mutation - Nautilus 730859;1403585923;moiety;!up cowloon 730860;1403585923;BingoBoingo;moiety: That's true 730861;1403585960;moiety;BingoBoingo: i can see your friend sitting looking at this giant wondering if it will ever stop lol 730862;1403585979;moiety;hello cowloon 730863;1403586331;benkay;http://sysmagazine.com/posts/217799/ "fleshstore" 730864;1403586331;assbot;How to reduce costs by the virtual data-processing center by means of flesh-store USB IT daily blog, news, magazine, technologies 730865;1403586690;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20485992 = 2.0486 BTC [-] {3} 730866;1403586812;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.03995847 = 1.9979 BTC [-] {6} 730867;1403586873;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03954732 = 1.1864 BTC [-] {4} 730868;1403586934;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03637586 = 0.7275 BTC [-] {5} 730869;1403587117;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.03501923 = 1.821 BTC [-] {7} 730870;1403587432;BingoBoingo;%book 730871;1403587435;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 730872;1403587997;BingoBoingo;So... GNU Gnash seems to have improved quite a bit these past couple weeks. 730873;1403588276;moiety;i didn't even know there was such a thing, was just reading about it. how has it improved? 730874;1403589018;BingoBoingo;moiety: It now works with Hulu 730875;1403589049;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo not that familiar, no. besides, it shoul;dn't really be seaside weather. 730876;1403589108;BingoBoingo;Ah, hail's the thing that happens here at least annually and depresses motor vehicle prices 730877;1403589401;moiety;BingoBoingo: you get the weirdest weather i have ever heard of 730878;1403589426;mircea_popescu;shithole of the world :D 730879;1403589437;BingoBoingo;moiety: I though this was just standard for not living on an Island 730880;1403589475;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo i was born in a place where wind over 50mph was newsworthy 730881;1403589477;moiety;i thought that was uk mircea_popescu? or can't we even excel at that now?! 730882;1403589495;mircea_popescu;moiety world can have mu;tiple assholes i guess 730883;1403589559;BingoBoingo;sub 100mph doesn't really make the news unless it spins 730884;1403589564;moiety;i have been searching for the least windy place to live 730885;1403589765;BingoBoingo;Wind isn't so bad, it is cleasing. 730886;1403589785;BingoBoingo;Gives the trees character! 730887;1403589852;BingoBoingo;Now flooding, that never happpens without making a mess. 730888;1403589853;fluffypony;morning frendz 730889;1403589867;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: penguirker better light up! 730890;1403589881;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: at Frankfurt, only flying to Estonia in an hour 730891;1403589911;fluffypony;the conference only starts on Thursday 730892;1403589917;fluffypony;runs till Sunday 730893;1403590247;BingoBoingo;%book 730894;1403590248;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 730895;1403590258;BingoBoingo;%book 730896;1403590259;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 730897;1403590263;BingoBoingo;%diff 730898;1403590265;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 445034.21 in 9 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.79 730899;1403590398;moiety;they are giving us all these different little bins for different recycling here.. in scotland.. they will just blow about ... into things... causing damage... unsure i can take the stress 730900;1403591029;BingoBoingo;%book 730901;1403591030;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 1M@199 33k@177 750k@175 730902;1403591174;BingoBoingo;%diff 730903;1403591175;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 444380.80 in 8 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.88 730904;1403591265;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18160 @ 0.00078668 = 14.2861 BTC [-] {2} 730905;1403591375;BingoBoingo;Next ATC statement already more interesting than last, how interesting can it get? 730906;1403591772;BingoBoingo;!jd 730907;1403591772;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 18.4k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered 730908;1403591807;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 730909;1403591808;assbot;Bad JD response. 730910;1403591819;BingoBoingo;!Bad JD 730911;1403592502;fluffypony;lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlA_YXDm9bg 730912;1403592502;assbot;Things you're doing wrong every day: everything. - YouTube 730913;1403592544;xmj;fluffypony: do you have wifi on the plane? 730914;1403592559;fluffypony;xmj: I had on the flight here, but from FRA to TLN I don't think so 730915;1403592847;xmj;yeah, improbable - they usually fly A319 or 320 -without WiFi 730916;1403593166;BingoBoingo;Moore's Law http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/supercomputer-slowdown-worlds-fastest-system-sees-no-new-challengers/ 730917;1403593167;assbot;Supercomputer slowdown: Worlds fastest system sees no new challengers | Ars Technica 730918;1403593202;Apocalyptic;hum, strong bids on x-bt 730919;1403593478;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Looks like it 730920;1403593482;BingoBoingo;%diff 730921;1403593485;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 444380.80 in 8 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.88 730922;1403593486;BingoBoingo;Might explain why 730923;1403593506;Apocalyptic;indeed, everyone expecting the hoppers' selloff most likely 730924;1403594330;BingoBoingo;I've notice it has been a while since anyone sold into a bid 730925;1403594401;punkman;;;bc,stats 730926;1403594404;gribble;Current Blocks: 307518 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 929 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 3 hours, 52 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16487794874.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.47129 730927;1403594718;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.16299681 BTC. Current weight: 5,080. 730928;1403594743;BingoBoingo;Hashpower is the worst 730929;1403595745;punkman;http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/23/josie-cunningham-gets-6000-taxpayer-taxi-rides-_n_5520892.html 730930;1403595746;assbot;Josie Cunningham Gets 6,000 Of Taxpayer Funded Taxi Rides A Year 730931;1403595755;punkman;why don't they buy her a car 730932;1403596023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04099999 = 0.943 BTC [+] 730933;1403596468;BingoBoingo;punkman: Parking is a pain 730934;1403597087;punkman;http://www.economist.com/node/21603828 730935;1403597088;assbot;GOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLL! | The Economist 730936;1403598196;BingoBoingo;punkman: Are you sure they are giving her Botox and not MTPT? 730937;1403598236;BingoBoingo;Sorry, MPTP... 730938;1403598357;*;BingoBoingo imagines a version of Jason Statham movie crank aligned to resent clinical knowledge. Statham poisoned with MPTP and must combat parkinsons with Selegeline, Amphetamines, and action Movie situations 730939;1403598548;punkman;is it that good writers don't wanna go to hollywood, or is it that the guild beats them up and deports them when they do? 730940;1403598700;BingoBoingo;punkman: I really dunno. Occasionally it seems the random mix of writers hollywood gathers occasionally develops a concept well. 730941;1403599378;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04099937 = 1.64 BTC [+] {2} 730942;1403599420;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/23/student-gets-trapped-in-vagina_n_5522066.html?utm_hp_ref=tw 730943;1403599420;assbot;Student Gets Trapped In Vagina Sculpture (PHOTOS) 730944;1403599426;Apocalyptic;he does LvCunts too apparently 730945;1403599429;BingoBoingo;Whatever happened to that aspiring reincarnation of Carl Sagan 730946;1403599436;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Lube is everything 730947;1403599721;punkman;from comments: "Should be sentenced to serve six months hard labia." 730948;1403599883;pankkake;this is an actual fetish btw 730949;1403600014;moiety;brb off to post office, will avoid any large vaginas 730950;1403600621;BingoBoingo;lol 730951;1403600662;BingoBoingo;There is nothing wrong with a vagina that can create a large space. 730952;1403600673;BingoBoingo;All of them do that 730953;1403601102;pankkake;http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/23/184252/the-bursting-social-media-advertising-bubble 730954;1403601103;assbot;The Bursting Social Media Advertising Bubble - Slashdot 730955;1403601130;pankkake;http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/06/wikipedia_s_bureaucracy_problem_and_how_to_fix_it.html 730956;1403601130;assbot;Wikipedia’s bureaucracy problem and how to fix it. 730957;1403603578;punkman;https://nest.com/works-with-nest/ 730958;1403603578;assbot;Works with Nest. | Nest 730959;1403603586;punkman;!up AlexWkz 730960;1403603892;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.20507803 = 1.4355 BTC [-] {5} 730961;1403603953;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-] {2} 730962;1403604060;moiety;mew anyone around for a bit of advice? 730963;1403604412;punkman;http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/06/07/the-vanished-grandeur-accounting/3zcbRBoPDNIryWyNYNMvbO/story.html 730964;1403604412;assbot;The vanished grandeur of accounting - Ideas - The Boston Globe 730965;1403604414;BingoBoingo;moiety: Aroud, writing a blog post 730966;1403604435;punkman;I have all kinds of bad advice 730967;1403604506;moiety;post office is arguing with me. to send batteries internationally, they need to be attached to the device. an external mac battery is fine isn't it... because it IS the device, right? 730968;1403604594;punkman;just go to another post office and tell them it's an external disk 730969;1403604596;BingoBoingo;moiety: Wire it to a Blinkenlight and have it turned off. 730970;1403604731;moiety;punkman, only got one here. i think i'll just go shout at them a bit 730971;1403604751;punkman;why'd you tell them it's a battery? 730972;1403604769;moiety;BingoBoingo: cus of packaging, i cant attach it to anything. but the batteries are contained inside the thing, just like it would be if it were in a laptop already 730973;1403604785;moiety;because you have to declare it and its not my battery to get confiscated punkman 730974;1403604809;BingoBoingo;moiety: Use electrical tape. 730975;1403604839;BingoBoingo;Make it a single thing and ship it as an art piece 730976;1403604855;pankkake;this is why I hate to receive/send stuff internionally 730977;1403604875;pankkake;and so many things get "lost" 730978;1403604901;moiety;oh god don't say that pankkake 730979;1403604953;punkman;things being lost has been quite rare for me, broken in transit though... 730980;1403605375;BingoBoingo;I've never had trouble shipping anywhere. 730981;1403605392;moiety;im not worried about it breaking, its in the original packaging it was sent to me in 730982;1403605443;moiety;but i am right in telling them the actual batteries are attached to the device, right? 730983;1403605452;moiety;cus you can't remove them 730984;1403605504;punkman;moiety: yeah it's not a battery, it's a complete external power storage device 730985;1403605548;punkman;just ask for the manager or something, clerks got nothing to do but argue 730986;1403605557;moiety;the guys head is going to melt when i give him that sentence, i can feel it 730987;1403605581;moiety;right off to argue withthem again, thanks all, back in a wee bit - again 730988;1403605783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35023 @ 0.00077913 = 27.2875 BTC [-] 730989;1403607186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 110 @ 0.040995 = 4.5095 BTC [+] 730990;1403607685;BingoBoingo;Upcoming post might be /. able 730991;1403607774;Namworld;So, PrimeDice still isn't provably fair... Should I bother calling Stunna on it until he fixes it? 730992;1403607921;Namworld;Or as a competitor, should I leave that to others? hmm... 730993;1403607979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35979 @ 0.00078249 = 28.1532 BTC [+] 730994;1403608122;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Might as well, you have a vested interest. If not you, who? 730995;1403608161;punkman;is PrimeDice the biggest dice now? 730996;1403608215;pankkake;lol, people are betting on a non provably fair site?! 730997;1403608373;Namworld;Yes 730998;1403608388;pankkake;why are they so dumb? 730999;1403608396;pankkake;or maybe how 731000;1403608424;Namworld;because you can still change the client seed before each bet, making it provably fair. The problem is if you don't, you can be cheated and it's impossible to get caught. 731001;1403608460;Namworld;A true provably fair system doesn't need EVERYONE to check and doesn't allow any scenario where a cheated bet is impossible to notice. 731002;1403608501;Namworld;The thing is, they give a new server seed for each bet. Guess what they can do if you don't change your client seed before each bet? 731003;1403608560;pankkake;oh, so at least it isn't completely obscure 731004;1403608616;Namworld;There are ways to do it that you can just keep betting and even if the site cheated even only 1 out of 100 bets, there needs only a few people to track a few hundred bets to start discovering unfairness. 731005;1403608649;Namworld;Like provide new server seed only when asked for and reveal old one. Then change client seed. 731006;1403608671;Namworld;Like JD does. Then you can spam bet with the sticky server seed. No problem, no cheating. 731007;1403608739;punkman;was just trying PrimeDice, this happened twice already: I bet, balance updates, bet doesn't show in My Bets list 731008;1403608748;Namworld;or even better, like Coinroll, use predisclosed hash of daily secret for everyone. Not alterable. Then client seed is BTC deposit tx ID, so we don't provide a default seed for the client. 731009;1403608812;Namworld;Only way to cheat would be altering bet parameters after the fact to keep matching seeds and rolls, which is completly noticable if even a few users tracks their bets. 731010;1403608867;Namworld;I'm saying PrimeDice implementation is poor. They could be cheating right now, it would be impossible to notice, even if everyone verified and tracked all their bets. 731011;1403608877;punkman;the interface is horrible too 731012;1403608881;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/24/choosing-a-linux-desktop-environment-for-newbs-and-n00bs/ 731013;1403608911;Namworld;That's left to opinion. Isn't bad as far as I care. 731014;1403608933;Namworld;It's more the implementation of their provably fair system. 731015;1403609001;Namworld;Anyway... 731016;1403609039;*;BingoBoingo remembers TradeFortress constantly advocating beautiful provably fair systems and just... Running with the money... 731017;1403609167;BingoBoingo;Spammity spam spam away! http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3649189 731018;1403609168;assbot;Xfce: Choice Desktop environment for new Linux Users - Slashdot 731019;1403609168;Namworld;Yeah, as I said, a properly done provably fair system doesn't prevent cheating/stealing. It just makes it impossible to do without the possibility of getting caught. 731020;1403609233;BingoBoingo;Provably fair ought to be the bare minimum. It is a shame people consider themselvesserious without it. 731021;1403609247;BingoBoingo;However... 731022;1403609266;BingoBoingo;Provably fair should be so far below the minimum. 731023;1403609406;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/apbarros/status/481157619261116416 731024;1403609408;assbot;Wanna know the pwd for the Brasil world cup security center WiFi nw? It's on the whiteboard ;-) /hashtag/fail?src=hash http://t.co/XD6ujqk5nq 731025;1403609639;Namworld;Technically I think there's many smaller places that gives a new server seed before each bet... but that's a poor system. 731026;1403609704;BingoBoingo;Well, "provably fair" offers some room to choose particulars, but... Can have problems 731027;1403609734;Namworld;Yes, you can always alter betting parameters 731028;1403609744;Namworld;"Only way to cheat would be altering bet parameters after the fact to keep matching seeds and rolls, which is completly noticable if even a few users tracks their bets." 731029;1403609753;Namworld;But you can get caught for that. 731030;1403609769;Namworld;The way PrimeDice does it, they could cheat without any possibility of getting caught. 731031;1403609801;Namworld;With all parameters/seeds/rolls always matching and not changing, yet obtaining a house edge that is not 1% 731032;1403609829;Namworld;At least for players that don't change their client seed before each roll, which is going to be the majority of players. 731033;1403609858;Namworld;This is poor because the system needs to be so that a minority checking bets will catch the cheating for everyone. 731034;1403609913;Namworld;Provably fair should imply that any cheating possible under any scenario is possible to catch. 731035;1403609941;Apocalyptic;it's not 731036;1403609993;Apocalyptic;even in JD's case cheating by dooglus is impossible to catch 731037;1403610010;Namworld;How so? 731038;1403610029;Apocalyptic;he knows the server seed 731039;1403610068;Namworld;Oh, I mean for players. That's an issue but only for investors. 731040;1403610073;Apocalyptic;indeed 731041;1403610079;Namworld;But there's not much way around it. 731042;1403610097;Namworld;I'm talking strictly users side. 731043;1403610161;Namworld;In that case it's possible to have a system where any sort of cheating will be possible to catch. 731044;1403610183;Mats_cd03;doubtful this is a solvable problem 731045;1403610293;Namworld;the JD one for investors or the all cheating is possible to catch? 731046;1403610307;assbot;Last 19 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2W47ZD7.txt ) 731047;1403610307;BingoBoingo;!b 19 731048;1403610349;BingoBoingo;The thing about "provably fair" is that like all other transactions it is an offer from one party to another. 731049;1403610386;BingoBoingo;One party is always by their nature going to be situated better to fuck the person across the table. 731050;1403610397;pankkake;this has been discussed some time ago; one solution can be to use future block hashes as part of the server seed, however it delays the result 731051;1403610414;BingoBoingo;"Provably fair" is a tool to mitigate the risk. 731052;1403610455;Mats_cd03;all cheating. what prevents a server side tweak for 1.1% being switched on and off irregularly to evade persistent monitoring for cheating in your scenario? 731053;1403610496;Mats_cd03;operator could claim, 'probability lol' when evaluating statistical claims by suspicious users 731054;1403610499;pankkake;http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2014q2/000344.html 731055;1403610529;Namworld;Because then rolls wouldn't match? 731056;1403610559;Namworld;You can't change to 1.1% without changed the target number/giving the wrong number for the roll. 731057;1403610570;Mats_cd03;maybe I've misunderstood something here 731058;1403610649;BingoBoingo;Namworld: Well, a casino operator could "take a gamble" by offering a player a result to the player's detriment that is not provably fair 731059;1403610708;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.9995 BTC for No on "World Cup 2014: English to net more than 6 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/939/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.5986 BTC. Current weight: 66,921. 731060;1403610730;Namworld;Yes, but then even if only a small portion checks their bets, it would get caught. Even if a site did it only 1% of the time, it would quickly be discovered. 731061;1403610769;Namworld;And it would barely provide any advantage. Unless you only do it for very large bets, but those are highly likely to be checked. 731062;1403610800;Namworld;It's possible to cheat, but it's noticable. Even if not everyone checks. 731063;1403610971;Namworld;With PrimeDice, if you don't change your client seed before each roll, you could verify every parameter after the bet, see if anything was changed or if seeds match with the roll. It will check out fine, even if PrimeDice cheats. 731064;1403611082;Namworld;Because they'd be cheating before the rolls with proper seeds provided. Which means they wouldn't need to alter bet parameters after the fact or provide a roll number that doesn't match the seeds. 731065;1403611098;Namworld;Aka, stealth cheating 731066;1403611154;Namworld;I'll admit a 100% flawless system is probably not possible... but the PrimeDice implementation is far from even being half-right. 731067;1403611155;BingoBoingo;Hmmm... -assets doesn't seem as capable of spamming 3rd party sites like it was earlier this year. 731068;1403611351;Namworld;What? 731069;1403611408;BingoBoingo;Right, Primedice's implementations suck in that it counts on implementator honesty too heavily 731070;1403611508;Namworld;It basically doesn't provide any verifiable results unless you change client seed manually before each bet. Which is incredibly poor practice. No user will want to manually change their secret before each bet and type a new random string. 731071;1403611531;pankkake;http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/06/pr-will-be-first-up-against-wall-when.html 731072;1403611531;assbot;Errata Security: PR will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes 731073;1403611685;BingoBoingo;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5280803&cid=47253005 731074;1403611686;assbot;Netflix Shutters Its Public API - Slashdot 731075;1403611712;Namworld;I think he mentioned at some point the provably fair system for PrimeDice would be modified for a 4th version of the website, but eh 731076;1403611800;BingoBoingo;OMG security is hard, Who knows who??? http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/06/24/facelock_an_alternative_password_system_are_potentially_better_than_hard.html 731077;1403611801;assbot;Facelock, an alternative password system, are potentially better than hard to remember passwords, study finds. 731078;1403611827;Namworld;Oh yeah, read that post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253144.msg6485263#msg6485263 731079;1403611827;assbot;Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? Well, it isn't. 731080;1403611895;pankkake;I have a hard time rembemering faces 731081;1403611906;Namworld;He says wouldn't CR and JD be able to cheat by altering provided server seed, explaining exactly what PrimeDice does but CR and JD doesn't... 731082;1403611907;BingoBoingo;Essentially all provably fair schemes come down to an evaluation of the implementor's reliability. 731083;1403611932;Apocalyptic;"the point I want to make is his use of the phrase "powerful encryption". There is no such thing. There's only two types of encryption, that which works and that which doesn't" // a fact that still eludes some people 731084;1403611954;Namworld;it has nothing to do with implementor's reliability and it has all to do with hard maths and frequency of verification on the user's part. 731085;1403612018;Namworld;The scheme provided itself is the reliability of the site. It either is poor or is strong. Regardless if the owner is untrustworthy or trustworthy. 731086;1403612031;BingoBoingo;Namworld: You pick an implementation based on the choices the person who implemented it made. If you really want to roll dice you pick the most "fair" system. 731087;1403612045;Namworld;The owner being trustworthy only impacts risk of fleeing with users' balance. 731088;1403612060;BingoBoingo;Otherwiase you write off the implementor as a snake BECAUSE they chose poorly 731089;1403612073;Namworld;Yes, pretty much. 731090;1403612121;BingoBoingo;The right choice should only have to be Tradefartress vs. Dooglus. Not Dooglus vs. politically correct mathzors 731091;1403612377;BingoBoingo;Scammers rarely compete with hard targets though when they can spz. an advantage. 731092;1403612445;Namworld;Eh, anyway... 731093;1403612567;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/481412058152333314 731094;1403612568;assbot;Great /DLind cardstack on the recent wave of child migrants coming to the US to escape violence in Central America. http://t.co/AHt2wdLXy3 731095;1403612599;BingoBoingo;@binarybits http://Vox.com already seems to be racking up spam profiles fwiw #OMGSpamzors http://www.vox.com/users/motorshow-oman 731096;1403612599;assbot;Vox 731097;1403612600;assbot;motorshow-oman Profile, Activity and Communities 731098;1403612667;moiety;can you block numbers entirely on android or just filter the texts to some inbox you never go into? 731099;1403612812;BingoBoingo;moiety: No idea. I have a flip phone. 731100;1403612843;kakobrekla;calls you can block 731101;1403612847;moiety;mines not an android but rather than change my number i thought i would just get an android. i like my number but i cant get rid of this creep 731102;1403612867;asciilifeform;moiety: null ringtone. works even on ancient phone. 731103;1403612878;moiety;its texts that are the problem so far 731104;1403612880;BingoBoingo;moiety: I'm telling sharpie in the pooper... blackmail... peace 731105;1403612896;moiety;asciilifeform: it's only one number though, i don't want to miss other messages 731106;1403612919;asciilifeform;moiety: most phones, even late '90s vintage, let you set ring tones by number 731107;1403612940;*;moiety is trying 731108;1403612969;kakobrekla;on android you can go step beyond that so the caller will get a dropped line 731109;1403612993;moiety;yeahthis wee thing can't do it asciilifeform 731110;1403613008;moiety;i can get a wee basic android no problem 731111;1403613017;kakobrekla;(i blocked my isp) 731112;1403613025;pankkake;my nokia dumbphone can do it 731113;1403613049;moiety;can't even block n umbers for calls on this 731114;1403613065;moiety;its a wee fb phone 731115;1403613072;pankkake;though my mobile operator also now has a blocking service 731116;1403613078;pankkake;facebook phone? 731117;1403613121;moiety;yeah mum picked it up when mine broke not knowing anything about phones. facebook for vodaphone thing 731118;1403613144;moiety;i can't do anything normal, but i can update my status.. sigh* 731119;1403613314;punkman;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KSUJ9Xtw9E 731120;1403613314;assbot;Noonee - The Chairolution - YouTube 731121;1403613347;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.04099974 = 2.747 BTC [+] {2} 731122;1403613408;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.042 = 2.1 BTC [+] 731123;1403613450;kakobrekla;moiety re bnc: znc 731124;1403613484;punkman;http://bit.coin.je/ 731125;1403613486;assbot;bit.coin.je - The Jersey Bitcoin Portal 731126;1403613591;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.043 = 0.688 BTC [+] 731127;1403613633;*;BingoBoingo takes a smoke break, tired of inhaling strange 731128;1403613713;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 29 @ 0.02219999 = 0.6438 BTC [+] {2} 731129;1403613774;moiety;kakobrekla: thank you. i got it but i have no idea how to install. i think i'm a lost cause 731130;1403613816;punkman;"We feel that Jersey is perfectly positioned to become a cryptocurrency-friendly jurisdiction. We’ve got a very highly-regarded finance industry with world class AML/KYC expertise." 731131;1403613915;moiety;scrap that think i got it 731132;1403614047;moiety;meh command not found a million times 731133;1403614140;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2253 @ 0.00077913 = 1.7554 BTC [-] 731134;1403614179;*;BingoBoingo proposes an excelent exercise for anyone wanting to test their organic chemistry knowledge, cleaning another person's bathroom. 731135;1403614830;punkman;http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/22/detroit-water-un.html 731136;1403614830;assbot;Detroit activists call for UN help as city shuts off water for thousands | Al Jazeera America 731137;1403616661;kakobrekla;http://www.mondaq.com/x/322078/data+protection/ECJ+Declares+Data+Retention+Directive+Invalid 731138;1403616661;assbot;ECJ Declares Data Retention Directive Invalid - Data Protection - European Union 731139;1403616745;kakobrekla;hm nevermind i got scrolled. 731140;1403616761;kakobrekla;dat thing is old 731141;1403617077;kakobrekla;http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804 731142;1403617078;assbot;ITAR-TASS: Economy - Russia wants to replace US computer chips with local processors 731143;1403617994;Mats_cd03;fending off the boys moiety? 731144;1403618064;pankkake;!up miaoux 731145;1403618100;pankkake;miaou ! 731146;1403618213;moiety;just a creepy weirdo in the extended family i have never met Mats_cd03 rather just block it than cause problems 731147;1403618580;miaoux;lol 731148;1403618743;pankkake;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/06/24/1228223/google-building-a-domain-registration-service The Internet soon to be renamed The Google 731149;1403618744;assbot;Google Building a Domain Registration Service - Slashdot 731150;1403619497;BingoBoingo;%diff 731151;1403619500;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 438899.48 in 5 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.65 731152;1403619682;BingoBoingo;%ticker 731153;1403619683;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 731154;1403619691;mod6;%tslb 731155;1403619692;atcbot;1 hour 42 minutes and 14 seconds 731156;1403619712;mod6;%ob 731157;1403619713;atcbot;35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 1000k@199 33k@177 750k@175 731158;1403620486;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/asa/ 731159;1403620487;assbot;ASA Updates Algorithm to Account for Red-Heads | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 731160;1403620589;pankkake;Quoting numerous recent red head studies published in The Lancet, the ASA did confirm that red heads do in fact have souls, the carpet matches 90% of the time, most red heads hate when ‘red headed slut’ shots are ordered for them, and yes they truly are amazing in bed. 731161;1403620589;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 731162;1403620602;pankkake;looks scientific enough. I'd they less than 90% though 731163;1403620632;BingoBoingo;http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/12/national-arthritic-society-lobbies-climate-change/ 731164;1403620633;assbot;National Arthritic Society Lobbies for Climate Change | Medical Satire - GomerBlog 731165;1403620850;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Honestly there is only one way to investigate such claims 731166;1403620889;pankkake;yes - do you know how I could get this kind of Scientific Research funded? 731167;1403620949;BingoBoingo;pankkake: I dunno, maybe find someone with experience writing grants? 731168;1403620963;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/SciencePorn/status/481301442737995776 731169;1403620964;assbot;X-ray of a 900 pound man. http://t.co/DWukhHvSuj 731170;1403621033;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/even-venture-backed-bitcoin-miner-startup-cant-deliver-on-time-gets-sued/ 731171;1403621034;assbot;Even venture-backed Bitcoin miner startup cant deliver on time, gets sued | Ars Technica 731172;1403621070;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/28ykrp/comedy_silver_or_the_only_people_more_delusional/ 731173;1403621071;assbot;Comedy silver, or: The only people more delusional than bitcoiners are litecoiners. : Buttcoin 731174;1403621212;mike_c;heh. just that title is hilarious. 731175;1403621212;BingoBoingo;http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/06/24/1318236/florida-man-faces-48k-fine-for-jamming-drivers-cellphones 731176;1403621213;assbot;Florida Man Faces $48k Fine For Jamming Drivers' Cellphones - Slashdot 731177;1403621219;BingoBoingo;Yeah 731178;1403621414;BingoBoingo;User generated content problems https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/481449050168770560 731179;1403621415;assbot;Great /DLind cardstack on the recent wave of child migrants coming to the US to escape violence in Central America. http://t.co/AHt2wdLXy3 731180;1403621968;BingoBoingo;%diff 731181;1403621970;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 437759.59 in 2 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.81 731182;1403622301;BingoBoingo;2 Blocks to ATC diff change 731183;1403622343;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 731184;1403622345;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.73, Best ask: 586.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 586.99, 24 hour volume: 4255.87860255, 24 hour low: 582.0, 24 hour high: 591.92, 24 hour vwap: 586.544403643 731185;1403622508;jurov;;;ticker --currency eur 731186;1403622510;gribble;Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 430.848545, Best ask: 431.775275, Bid-ask spread: 0.92673, Last trade: 431.775275, 24 hour volume: 4266.35277512, 24 hour low: 428.061, 24 hour high: 435.35716, 24 hour vwap: 431.403388611 731187;1403622661;BingoBoingo;OMG watch out the Lebron BitBet http://deadspin.com/lebronapocalypse-1595238462/+tcberman not much action so far... http://bitbet.us/bet/960/lebron-james-to-take-his-talents-elsewhere/?ref=16wAZSsL8BFNFM8WCsrE8pwwFkhDErWiok 731188;1403622662;assbot;Agent: LeBron Will Opt Out Of Miami Contract, Become Free Agent 731189;1403622662;assbot;BitBet - LeBron James to take his talents elsewhere :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closing in 3 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`864 (100`000 to 1) 731190;1403622786;BingoBoingo;"At this point, we don't know anything about LeBron's plans other than the fact that he is opting out of his current contract. This doesn't necessarily mean that he is bolting Miami for another team. This could be LeBron positioning himself to re-sign with the Heat at a discounted rate so they can build a better team around him, and it could even be the first step in the elaborate bring-Melo-to-Miami scheme that was reportedly bei 731191;1403622786;BingoBoingo;ng explored earlier this month." 731192;1403622844;mircea_popescu;"This could be LeBron positioning himself to re-sign with the Heat at a discounted rate so they can build a better team around him" 731193;1403622847;mircea_popescu;ahahaha WHAT THE FUCK 731194;1403622854;mircea_popescu;"he's opting out to give us more money" 731195;1403622867;mircea_popescu;what do they put in the us water supply ? dumbherb ? 731196;1403622919;[]bot;Bet placed: 6 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.16299681 BTC. Current weight: 4,727. 731197;1403622960;mircea_popescu;also in the news, http://37.media.tumblr.com/99316fc4d80511b4d7ea955e66ff9874/tumblr_n19n9ml8KO1t3904qo1_500.jpg 731198;1403623095;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well... in most of the US maintaining water delivery infrastructure is a low priority... Lead pipes are a menace not unlike aluminium mains wiring 731199;1403623122;mircea_popescu;i guess they must be 731200;1403623363;BingoBoingo;It isn't unheard of for athletes to take less money, but it always happens when the contract has expired or when they want to negotiate for more years at less money per year. 731201;1403623408;mike_c;well, salary isn't their total income. they can make more in aggregate by being on a winning team (endorsements, etc.) 731202;1403623423;BingoBoingo;Never though for the cause of "I want less to be the shiniest specialest person on the team" 731203;1403623573;jurov;btw lead pipes aren't the problem, water tends to deposit minerals to the sides that limit lead poisoning 731204;1403623587;jurov;but the fact that nobody knows where the pipes are at all 731205;1403623606;jurov;in NYC large part of water is not even paid for because of this 731206;1403623747;mircea_popescu;mike_c they're going to be on a winning team by moving to one that can pay, 731207;1403623751;mircea_popescu;not by subsidizing idiots. 731208;1403623766;mircea_popescu;jurov true. 731209;1403623859;mike_c;yeah, but national sports are monopolies. teams have salary caps. 731210;1403624038;asciilifeform;re: russian 'arm' cpu hype << same sad story as 'elbrus' company. the latter started out as a somewhat original superscalar design, ended up a cheap pentium clone. they succumbed to the temptation of the ussr starting in '70s - clone common cpu, run l33t w4r3z. 731211;1403624273;BingoBoingo;Is it sad that I find the HP "the machine" announcement more encouraging than the Russian arm one? 731212;1403624298;asciilifeform;neither is particularly interesting, imho. both intend to run the same idiot stack forever. 731213;1403624350;BingoBoingo;The HP stuff seems interesting at least for what can be done with used stuff 10 years after release. 731214;1403624441;BingoBoingo;10-20 years out will be interesting in any scenario simply because of how will people react to bumping against Moore's law at the least. 731215;1403624750;BingoBoingo;Who knows maybe once fabs bottom out around 5nm people might start making "sea of gates" FPGAs again 731216;1403624754;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 106 @ 0.04100211 = 4.3462 BTC [-] {4} 731217;1403624779;jurov;BingoBoingo: MSFT already does, have you seen? 731218;1403624848;BingoBoingo;jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind... 731219;1403624891;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: if it's a 'xilinx' or 'altera' - you're stuck with the vendor's closed turd. 731220;1403624893;jurov;oh that, will come naturally after sufficiently smart compilers 731221;1403624950;asciilifeform;both of the major (well, only ones worth mentioning) fpga vendors make most of their profit from renting out license to use their libraries (ethernet controller, soft cpu cores, etc.) and not from hardware. hence the tightly closed architectures. 731222;1403624984;asciilifeform;(reasoning being, were they to open the specs, anyone could cut open the libs and never pay the ransom) 731223;1403624991;BingoBoingo;At some point the price of fabbing "state of the art" will go down, simply because "state of the art" hits a wall. 731224;1403625017;asciilifeform;state of the art in, e.g. steel production, hasn't changed in decades 731225;1403625022;asciilifeform;own a backyard steel mill ? 731226;1403625072;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-12-2013&bots=true#432847 731227;1403625073;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 731228;1403625153;BingoBoingo;Well, I've reprocess aluminum there before. 731229;1403625164;BingoBoingo;*reprocessed 731230;1403625199;asciilifeform;it may very well be possible to produce 'backyard cpu,' but refinement of traditional fabrication methods won't get you there 731231;1403625207;asciilifeform;'can't get to the moon by piling up chairs' 731232;1403625241;BingoBoingo;I'm not thinking backyard, I'm thinking whoever Avalon et al hired to do their baking. 731233;1403625544;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo> jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind... << it's actually likely to see a proper war around this. 731234;1403625564;mircea_popescu;denying chips is pretty much the best way to keep people doing service "jobs". 731235;1403625594;moiety;http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/24/cheng-cheng-boy-2-addicted-to-alcohol-in-chinas-anhui-province-4773587/ 731236;1403625594;assbot;Cheng Cheng: Boy, 2, addicted to alcohol in China's Anhui province | Metro News 731237;1403625599;*;asciilifeform remembers one of the less-discussed reasons for vietnam war - the buggers had the temerity to build semiconductor plants 731238;1403625604;*;jurov is sad nobody seemed to notice the "sufficiently spart compilers" snark 731239;1403625606;moiety;BingoBoingo: you didn't visit china a couple years back did you? 731240;1403625609;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78645505 BTC to 9`565 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 731241;1403625644;mircea_popescu;jurov we're just waking up over here lol 731242;1403625673;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform their temerity runs in the fambly it seems. they now have the temerity to fight china over sea oil. 731243;1403625762;BingoBoingo;moiety: Nah 731244;1403625822;BingoBoingo;jurov: But pointing out that snark might highlight it too agressively for certain listeners... 731245;1403626073;mike_c;jurov: is this working? https://coinroll.it/stats bets counter is going up but nothing showing in table 731246;1403626074;assbot;Coinroll 731247;1403626106;jurov;use https://coinroll.com/stats 731248;1403626106;assbot;Coinroll 731249;1403626131;mike_c;ah 731250;1403626166;jurov;we migrated the domain 731251;1403626330;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: re: your x11 wm post: the funny thing is, i originally grew fond of 'ratpoison' wm precisely because, years ago, as student, i used an uncommonly small laptop. 731252;1403626369;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: (you mentioned wanting a traditional wm specifically for miniature computers, which i found odd) 731253;1403626496;*;mircea_popescu feels an urge to contribute, and so http://38.media.tumblr.com/43ddab4f04de339735f1450d7d8d5fff/tumblr_n1mx0hovad1qgp9ipo1_500.jpg 731254;1403626515;asciilifeform;lol! 731255;1403627135;benkay;http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/189965-Que-pasara-con-el-valor-del-dolar-si-la-Argentina-le-paga-a-los-fondos-buitre 731256;1403627136;assbot;Qu pasar con el valor del dlar si la Argentina le paga a los fondos buitre? 731257;1403627279;mircea_popescu;not much either way. 731258;1403627565;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: interesting 731259;1403627649;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: example of this machine: http://www.notanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/gentoo_libretto.jpg << the circular object underneath 'intel' sticker is the mouse. two buttons on the back of lid. 731260;1403627656;mthreat;https://twitter.com/apbarros/status/481157619261116416 731261;1403627658;assbot;Wanna know the pwd for the Brasil world cup security center WiFi nw? It's on the whiteboard ;-) /hashtag/fail?src=hash http://t.co/XD6ujqk5nq 731262;1403627661;asciilifeform;^ when this is your 'mouse,' mouseless wm is appealing. 731263;1403627675;BingoBoingo;It must be 731264;1403627808;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg 731265;1403628281;jurov;https://dicesoft.net/projects/wildcard-code-execution-exploit.htm 731266;1403628282;assbot;Bash glob arbitrary code execution 731267;1403628421;benkay;haha 731268;1403628442;benkay;i thought a neighbor was leaving for the morning, and ran outside in my underoos to return a key 731269;1403628458;benkay;turns out it was another neighbor's girl, my ins broker 731270;1403628460;Mats_cd03;im in the same room as bruce schneier right now 731271;1403628460;Mats_cd03;his ponytail is scruffy. 731272;1403628468;benkay;amusingly, the one who won't ride his bike naked 731273;1403628494;pankkake;Mats_cd03: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-suspect-schneier-is-an-us-agent/ 731274;1403628495;assbot;Why I suspect Schneier is an US agent. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 731275;1403628550;Mats_cd03;i have read it 731276;1403628571;Mats_cd03;dude is too much of a hippie fuck for that to be true 731277;1403628594;Mats_cd03;incompetent, maybe 731278;1403628600;Mats_cd03;http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/06/gettys 731279;1403628601;assbot;[Today] (In)Security in Home Embedded Devices | Berkman Center 731280;1403628611;pankkake;I didn't picture him as a hippie (and certainly not incompetent) 731281;1403628840;davout;has -assets already discussed DigitalBTC (digitalbtc.com) ? 731282;1403628949;pankkake;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=digitalbtc 731283;1403628949;assbot;digitalbtc 731284;1403628961;mircea_popescu;benkay so did you return her key ? 731285;1403629007;pankkake;re http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg - that's the only kind of panties that should be allowed 731286;1403629019;benkay;pf no wrong girl 731287;1403629046;mike_c;hah, look at that. search.b-a is so much better than google site:logs.b-a. 731288;1403629075;mircea_popescu;jurov that's been known for a while no ? 731289;1403629103;jurov;yes. but it never ceases to entertain me 731290;1403629104;mircea_popescu; dude is too much of a hippie fuck for that to be true << o.O 731291;1403629223;mircea_popescu;jurov actually if it ever gets "fixed" i guess asciilifeform's point about how linux goes to shit like everything goes to shit under the pressurte of popularity wil lbe quite breathtakingly proven 731292;1403629264;benkay;so the girl and i've been perverting the refrain to "rock me like a hurricane" all morning 731293;1403629273;benkay;particular winners: 731294;1403629278;benkay;"whorricane" 731295;1403629289;benkay;"dock me like a faggot king" 731296;1403629310;benkay;i had to dig up a demonstration of docking for that one to make sense to the lady 731297;1403629311;mircea_popescu;... 731298;1403629323;TomServo;a...demonstration? 731299;1403629334;mircea_popescu;TomServo he prolly doesn't know the old meaning of the term 731300;1403629334;benkay;doesn't a whoreicane sound great? 731301;1403629352;benkay;what, docking or demonstrations? 731302;1403629354;benkay;;;ud dock 731303;1403629355;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dock | Dock. to place the foreskin of your dick over someone else's penis head. Clay Aiken docked Lance Bass when he came out of the closet. by hitman912 ... 731304;1403629374;benkay;there is a whole internet of examples... 731305;1403629401;mircea_popescu;benkay "and if you don't, they dock ya" 731306;1403629421;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS42yIDQX6s 731307;1403629421;assbot;... and they dock ya! - YouTube 731308;1403629425;BingoBoingo;;;ud sound docking 731309;1403629426;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking. 731310;1403629549;benkay;what movie's that from? 731311;1403629570;benkay;hudsucker proxy... 731312;1403629583;mircea_popescu;hudsucker ya 731313;1403629645;BingoBoingo;;;google site:trilema.com docking 731314;1403629646;gribble;Have you played Elite back in the 80s ? pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: ; The theory behind the alternative EVE corporation pe Trilema - Un ...: ; The bezzle-USD and the tide-USD pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: , for assbot benefit 731425;1403649855;mthreat;- Fixed UTF-8 for accented/non-Latin characters 731426;1403650231;benkay;SHIP IT 731427;1403650250;kakobrekla;good stuff mthreat! 731428;1403650429;mthreat;kakobrekla: add &output=json for json. I can change the JSON output if you like, for gribble (do you run gribble?) 731429;1403650501;kakobrekla;no i dun run gribble, assbot will take care of this - but, my thought was just to make assbot build the url query for you on the chan, no json needed 731430;1403650535;kakobrekla;like "blah!search blah" and it returns 731431;1403650542;kakobrekla;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blah 731432;1403650543;assbot;68 results for 'blah' - #bitcoin-assets search 731433;1403650566;kakobrekla;no? 731434;1403650607;mthreat;cool 731435;1403650608;kakobrekla;but aside that, i can make you ?json to parse the stuff from logs if you want 731436;1403650635;kakobrekla;still daily , just w/o the html stuff 731437;1403650642;mthreat;it's not really necessary.. the parsing is pretty easy using JSoup 731438;1403650651;kakobrekla;as you wish 731439;1403651045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21987562 = 1.5391 BTC [+] {3} 731440;1403652509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.03847462 = 0.5386 BTC [-] 731441;1403653184;mircea_popescu;* Ignatius-otc (~root@gateway/tor-sasl/ignatius-otc) << what could possibly go wrong 731442;1403653558;thestringpuller;;;seen jurov 731443;1403653559;gribble;jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 19 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: !up bigtip 731444;1403654252;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03:mircea_popescu: and the devices in existence? what about them? << burn them. 731445;1403654254;mircea_popescu;help gdp 731446;1403654273;mircea_popescu;moiety: hmm docking... my eyes get wider every day in here.... :] <<< i wouldn't worry while it's just the eyes. 731447;1403654310;mircea_popescu;mike_c: ah, because it lies. this makes sense. << it flushes the 100 pre-generated addies. 731448;1403654314;mircea_popescu;so in that sense. 731449;1403654375;mircea_popescu;cedivad: so, hashfast got 20 millions in and they were able to destroy all of that value. << listing what, a d. ? 731450;1403654436;mircea_popescu;but if it makes you feel any better, they were never populat here. not that ct ever was. 731451;1403654583;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 99 @ 0.04203706 = 4.1617 BTC [-] {6} 731452;1403654605;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform pretty lulzy 731453;1403654855;mircea_popescu;cedivad: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. << that'd be unlikely. depends a lot of the jurisdiction and everything, but in general speaking the manager can just say "we have no more money" and that's that. he doesn't have to prove how he spent it. you may prove he misspent it and then it could escalate to fraud, but in general, in a bankruptcy, a manager is not going t 731454;1403654855;mircea_popescu;o have to prove shit. 731455;1403654937;mike_c;knc, relatively speaking, is on the ball. last week they shipped (300 x 3) = 900 TH/s, and a similar amount over the next week. 731456;1403654949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00077799 = 11.5143 BTC [-] 731457;1403654954;mike_c;in other news, over *twenty* petahashes have come online in the last week or so 731458;1403654963;mike_c;what. the. fuck. 731459;1403654982;mircea_popescu;people realising they're getting left out. 731460;1403654991;mike_c;where is it coming from?? 731461;1403655007;mircea_popescu;by mid summer every government with pretensions will be mining. 731462;1403655054;mike_c;who else could it be. this is serious horsepower. 731463;1403655087;mike_c;hey TheNewDeal. by the way. don't bet against difficulty. 731464;1403655099;mircea_popescu;mike_c people interested in mysteries will now go into the logs to see when i first made certain unsubstantiated claims and then apply engineering timeframes to the window ellapsed. 731465;1403655108;mike_c;quite awhile ago. 731466;1403655123;mike_c;plus, it's easy now! search.b-a ftw 731467;1403655140;mircea_popescu;yeah, quite a while ago. enough to ship 3 generations of cardano :D 731468;1403655144;mike_c;hehe 731469;1403655204;TheNewDeal;mike_c why did this need to be repeated? 731470;1403655217;TheNewDeal;I thought that you and BB were betting against, and I was for 14B 731471;1403655226;mike_c;seemed relevant. not a dig. 731472;1403655265;TheNewDeal;Trust me, I have learned my lessons 731473;1403655293;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/931/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.82942216 BTC. Current weight: 16,720. 731474;1403655356;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust TheNewDeal 731475;1403655357;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask TheNewDeal!465aebee@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.90.235.238. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user TheNewDeal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=TheNewDeal | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TheNewDeal | Rated since: Sun Apr 13 12:56:09 2014 731476;1403655369;mircea_popescu;not trusting you! you've not learned your lessons! 731477;1403655370;mircea_popescu;ha-ha! 731478;1403655379;TheNewDeal;I'm currently learning my lesson 731479;1403655388;mircea_popescu;aok 731480;1403655396;TheNewDeal;I'll get in your trust network sometime 731481;1403655405;TheNewDeal;just need to find a trustworthy event 731482;1403655427;TheNewDeal;;;gettrust assbot bitcoinpete 731483;1403655434;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: Fri Mar 28 09:14:47 2014 731484;1403655680;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/24/world-cup-meets-bitbet-court-of-appeals/ 731485;1403655986;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00077486 = 8.6009 BTC [-] {2} 731486;1403656103;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/24/world-cup-meets-bitbets-court-of-appeals/ 731487;1403656578;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/937/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 39(Y):61(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.27207284 BTC. Current weight: 16,620. 731488;1403656582;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.83257221 BTC. Current weight: 54,944. 731489;1403656688;cazalla;bitcoinpete: fwiw, i was going to bet on the same one but didn't as i thought it was borderline and likely to be refunded 731490;1403656716;kakobrekla;look what you have done now mp 731491;1403656827;mircea_popescu;myeah. 731492;1403656850;mircea_popescu;dun worry, this is just to give them a false sense of security. 731493;1403656860;mircea_popescu;we scam everyone later. 731494;1403656932;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Portugal will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/932/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.63982192 BTC. Current weight: 16,591. 731495;1403657102;kakobrekla;oh ok, good plan 731496;1403657627;TheNewDeal;what'd I miss?! 731497;1403657684;TheNewDeal;oooh the World cup controversey 731498;1403657697;TheNewDeal;who was the better with the idea to keep bets going until the last moment? 731499;1403657741;mircea_popescu;http://37.media.tumblr.com/a44db4db295f2f711f3d0a3f325bcd1a/tumblr_mwqi95H55y1s0tgwso1_1280.jpg her ? 731500;1403657748;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.93 BTC for No on "South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/937/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.20207284 BTC. Current weight: 16,528. 731501;1403657784;TheNewDeal;ooooh getting me excited for my rock climbing trip next weekend 731502;1403657804;TheNewDeal;I'll show her an expert crack climb 731503;1403657817;mircea_popescu;lol 731504;1403657824;mircea_popescu;so ripe for linguistic exploitation that 731505;1403657840;cazalla;you're climbing a rock monyanna? 731506;1403657853;mircea_popescu;no, he's clinging to a crack 731507;1403657875;mircea_popescu;the crack that separates limb from limb 731508;1403657953;TheNewDeal;I'm rock climbing around 4th of July weekend. not next 731509;1403657955;TheNewDeal;wups 731510;1403657987;TheNewDeal;headed to land of smoker's paradise 731511;1403658449;TheNewDeal;pretty disappointed that I wasn't the winner of the bitbet adjudicating record with my bitcon price above $525 in may bet. seems like there was a little bit of leniency with this sports bets with the date adjustments 731512;1403658608;mircea_popescu;there was 731513;1403658623;mircea_popescu;whats an adjudication record ? 731514;1403658675;TheNewDeal;in bitcoinpetes blog it looked like you said you or kako had never adjudicated on a bitbet 731515;1403658686;cazalla;betting mid game of 3rd match is still a risk though if it's an hour until the block is confirmed, that's the other reason i avoid mid game bets 731516;1403658747;mircea_popescu;cazalla this is true 731517;1403658785;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal well, it's the mod's job. they normally do a good job of it, but not always. 731518;1403658800;TheNewDeal;my case was a little iffy regardless 731519;1403658820;TheNewDeal;last minute bet on a price cross 731520;1403658898;mircea_popescu;(previous case like that was hmmm 731521;1403658900;mircea_popescu;lemme dig for it 731522;1403658941;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/ 731523;1403658942;assbot;The anatomy of a disaster pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 731524;1403658945;mircea_popescu;there, about a year ago 731525;1403659046;TheNewDeal;damn 731526;1403659056;TheNewDeal;should have made a bet that was "bitbet will allow another negative bet" 731527;1403659160;TheNewDeal;latest urge to impulse bet is the FHM bet. Last year's sum was so high! 731528;1403659237;TheNewDeal;well not super high, but the winners made like 3X payout. 731529;1403659455;cazalla;TheNewDeal: do you bet to have some fun with it type shit or are you the sorta guy that knows the bounce you get off different sort of wood on basketball courts? 731530;1403659463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19489 @ 0.00077654 = 15.134 BTC [+] {2} 731531;1403659495;TheNewDeal;well I played basketball and up until 8th grade and wasn't good enough to make it on the freshman team 731532;1403659499;TheNewDeal;no basketball analogy fails 731533;1403659547;TheNewDeal;I'm the type of person that stays away from everything at the casino that designed to make you lose on purpose, and heads straight to the poker tables 731534;1403659581;TheNewDeal;take said bet here 731535;1403659582;TheNewDeal;http://bitbet.us/bet/727/block-315k-mined-on-or-before-july-28th/ 731536;1403659583;assbot;BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 5 days | weight: 15`645 (100`000 to 5`000) 731537;1403659607;TheNewDeal;I bet *very* late in the game 731538;1403659646;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00077355 = 10.0562 BTC [-] {2} 731539;1403659646;TheNewDeal;but I knew what the return would be. I also looked at the return for people who might have a much larger BTC stake than myself 731540;1403659684;TheNewDeal;was quite sure that no larger bets would come on the same side. Made sure that the outcome was a rare event, and felt very confident in betting 731541;1403659766;cazalla;what's your best bet? 731542;1403659793;TheNewDeal;to date, will be 14B in may 731543;1403659803;cazalla;this one paid ok considering i only bet chump change amounts http://bitbet.us/bet/832/difficulty-at-block-302-400-over-10-billion/ 731544;1403659803;assbot;BitBet - Difficulty at block 302,400 over 10 billion :: 0.05 B (11%) on Yes, 0.43 B (89%) on No | closed 1 month 1 week ago 731545;1403659810;TheNewDeal;urrr not may, but bastille day 731546;1403659821;cazalla;shame more people didn't bet on that prop though 731547;1403659826;TheNewDeal;shhhh 731548;1403659829;TheNewDeal;that's me you're raping 731549;1403659842;cazalla;orly? 731550;1403659849;TheNewDeal;very poorly designed bet if I might add 731551;1403659866;TheNewDeal;was my first approved 731552;1403659906;cazalla;i'm hoping a win on the knc bet but expect to lose given criteria even though they've begun shipping 731553;1403659927;TheNewDeal;well don't they also have to perform to spec? 731554;1403659948;cazalla;yes that too 731555;1403660010;TheNewDeal;best resolved bet to date was this I guess. http://bitbet.us/bet/800/bitcoin-price-above-525-before-may/#b27 12% return over a 24 hr period :D 731556;1403660010;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin price above $525 before May :: 10.29 B (87%) on Yes, 1.51 B (13%) on No | closed 2 months 1 week ago 731557;1403660054;TheNewDeal;I guess it wasn't really that large though if you add in my late bet that was refunded as well 731558;1403660068;kakobrekla;bitcoinpete did like 30% in less than an hour ? 731559;1403660111;TheNewDeal;well thats pretty fucking fantastic if you ask me 731560;1403660209;TheNewDeal;I'm trying to get away from the risky bets myself 731561;1403660236;TheNewDeal;played too much with the price bets when I started and just ended up making little for risking lots 731562;1403660256;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00077394 = 6.0367 BTC [+] 731563;1403660263;TheNewDeal;ewww 731564;1403660385;TheNewDeal;On a slightly different topic. Was the Nanking massacre related to the Treaty of Versailles ? Was talking about the Nanking massacre just the other day at work with someone, he was talking about the Nazis being involved, and I didn't realize Germany had given Japan some land in China a couple decades before 731565;1403660728;mircea_popescu;mthreat why does neither http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr.com nor http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr match http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#731499 even though the former matches http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2014#713703 (and how come they don't both match that). 731566;1403660728;assbot;7 results for 'tumblr.com' - #bitcoin-assets search 731567;1403660729;assbot;44 results for 'tumblr' - #bitcoin-assets search 731568;1403660730;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 731569;1403660730;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 731570;1403660873;mthreat;the former is not indexed yet 731571;1403660907;mthreat;I indexed an hour or so ago 731572;1403660950;[]bot;Bet created: "Berkshire Hathaway BRK-B to close at over $135 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/964/ 731573;1403660962;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/what-do-you-have-for-breakfast/ 731574;1403660972;mircea_popescu;mthreat but if you look, plenty of similar links yest 731575;1403661028;mircea_popescu;i think there's some sort of funk in url tokenization maybe 731576;1403661128;asciilifeform;https://atc.waroflife.com << neato 731577;1403661129;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 731578;1403661129;mthreat;ah yeah. "tumblr.com" matches 7 because those 7 have "/tumblr_xyz" in the url, which gets tokenized so it has the token "tumblr" 731579;1403661164;mthreat;^ wait nevermind what i just said 731580;1403661183;mike_c;what a title 731581;1403661196;mircea_popescu;yay 731582;1403661206;mircea_popescu;so yes dear investors, http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.WOL 731583;1403661207;assbot;S.WOL last @0.00000000 731584;1403661209;mircea_popescu;won't last long. 731585;1403661271;mthreat;mircea_popescu: yeah it looks like url tokenization just isn't very smart 731586;1403661277;asciilifeform;congrats mike_c 731587;1403661293;mike_c;thanks! 731588;1403661299;mircea_popescu;mthreat i suggest just break urls on all nonalphanum 731589;1403661302;mthreat;mircea_popescu: best bet is probably use: tumblr* 731590;1403661306;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust mike_c 731591;1403661307;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mike_c: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 23 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mike_c | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mike_c | Rated since: Sun Nov 24 21:18:22 2013 731592;1403661323;mircea_popescu;;;rated mike_c 731593;1403661323;gribble;You rated user mike_c on Tue May 27 19:08:51 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Model blogger, dev.. 731594;1403661363;mircea_popescu;;;rate mike_c We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard on Bitcoin media. 731595;1403661363;gribble;Error: "We're" is not a valid integer. 731596;1403661364;kakobrekla;o nice, congrats to both 731597;1403661367;mircea_popescu;;;rate mike_c 3 We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard on Bitcoin media. 731598;1403661368;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mike_c has changed from 3 to 3. 731599;1403661392;mircea_popescu;;;rate mike_c 3 We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard for Bitcoin reporting. 731600;1403661394;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mike_c has changed from 3 to 3. 731601;1403661398;mircea_popescu;clearer. mazel tov 731602;1403661417;mircea_popescu;also, here's a chick having a fun. http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo9uzpIrRb1qmf4cto1_1280.jpg 731603;1403661830;mircea_popescu;mike_c maybe add webirc to here on contact form ? 731604;1403661854;mike_c;if channel so desires. didn't want to impose without asking. 731605;1403661874;mike_c;s/desires/allows/ 731606;1403661895;TheNewDeal;ooooh my this GoW looks interesting 731607;1403661929;TheNewDeal;%ticker 731608;1403661931;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 731609;1403661933;mircea_popescu;well people can just pm you. with the voice rules, it';s unlikely anyone can bother anything 731610;1403661943;mike_c;ok 731611;1403662290;TheNewDeal;who owns x-bt? 731612;1403662407;mircea_popescu;Apocalyptic 731613;1403662608;TheNewDeal;really liking this site 731614;1403662643;mircea_popescu;should be fun to play. 731615;1403662777;TheNewDeal;seems like a very advanced way to... lose money 731616;1403662801;TheNewDeal;looking for previous games though, can't find them 731617;1403662803;mike_c;there's free money in every GoW. 731618;1403662840;TheNewDeal;Watch some of the old games to get a feel for things, and then dive in! 731619;1403662843;TheNewDeal;can i get a linky? 731620;1403662853;mike_c;from home page, see 'finished' game on left 731621;1403662866;mike_c;also sample game linked in help section 731622;1403662876;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://www.kp.ru/ ahahah this still exists! 731623;1403662877;assbot; KP.RU , , -, - // KP.RU 731624;1403662887;mike_c;but i will link that line too. good feedback. 731625;1403663029;mircea_popescu;http://www.kp.ru/daily/26247/3127963/ 731626;1403663029;assbot; - // KP.RU 731627;1403663103;TheNewDeal;should pay someone to put up some signs at MIT advertising this WoL 731628;1403663107;mircea_popescu;is that some sort of show trial ? 731629;1403663115;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: not only! they have a net stream radio! 731630;1403663117;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal indeed. 731631;1403663131;mike_c;;;calc 5 / [ticker --last] 731632;1403663132;gribble;0.00872585120679 731633;1403663138;mike_c;cheap advertising :) 731634;1403663219;TheNewDeal;what happens to GoW once 1000 blocks are through? Turns into a Mini Game? 731635;1403663224;mircea_popescu;so these kids had a sort of fight club ? 731636;1403663230;mike_c;it's over, next game starts. 731637;1403663272;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: says they plugged a journalist 731638;1403663284;mike_c;easiest way to get into is to try it. ATC are cheap. 731639;1403663298;BingoBoingo;%ticker 731640;1403663299;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 731641;1403663306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.22615217 = 8.3676 BTC [+] {16} 731642;1403663315;BingoBoingo;%diff 731643;1403663316;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 511511.43 in 1997 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 0.00 731644;1403663334;BingoBoingo;OMG No pool hoppers. 731645;1403663345;mike_c;yet 731646;1403663353;TheNewDeal;I'm not worried about the price of ATC, already checked up on that 731647;1403663367;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2300909 = 2.531 BTC [+] {2} 731648;1403663375;mike_c;not as cheap as doge, but, hey. 731649;1403663378;TheNewDeal;I'm wondering if the Game of Life just restarts every "week", or if some other cellular automata game will replace it 731650;1403663394;mike_c;Game of the Week restarts every 1000 blocks 731651;1403663401;mike_c;home page on the left is a link to next week's game 731652;1403663428;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.231 = 0.924 BTC [+] 731653;1403663449;mircea_popescu; seems like a very advanced way to... lose money << bout 1%. 731654;1403663457;mircea_popescu;icecream is a less advanced way to lose money. 731655;1403663476;TheNewDeal;hahaha truth 731656;1403663489;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00077359 = 12.5708 BTC [-] {3} 731657;1403663495;mircea_popescu;after all, you could just inject glucose 731658;1403663505;TheNewDeal;not seeing said link mike_c 731659;1403663517;TheNewDeal;this is homepage, correct https://atc.waroflife.com/? 731660;1403663517;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 731661;1403663567;mike_c;yeah. game 8 on left/top is last week's game. below that, game 10, is next week's game. 731662;1403663586;TheNewDeal;ahhh I gotcha 731663;1403663594;mike_c;and by "week" i mean 1000 blocks. 731664;1403663608;TheNewDeal;what I'm wondering is this. How many 1000 block games will be played? 731665;1403663615;mike_c;hopefully infinite. 731666;1403663681;mike_c;make sense at all? every 1000 blocks a new game starts? 731667;1403663693;TheNewDeal;yes 731668;1403663724;TheNewDeal;just confused me with the name Game of Week, thought there might be a totally different game next week 731669;1403663733;TheNewDeal;and GoL would turn into a minigame or something 731670;1403663763;mike_c;it is not as simple as dice, but hopefully some find it fun. 731671;1403663786;TheNewDeal;most definitely. I think it will appeal to the btc crowd 731672;1403663806;mircea_popescu;!up Illumination 731673;1403663818;TheNewDeal;gotta head to bed though 731674;1403663820;csshih;oops 731675;1403663836;mike_c;thanks for checking it out. 731676;1403663866;TomServo;Looks pretty cool guys, nice work. 731677;1403663881;TomServo;Is there a target date for the grand opening? 731678;1403664093;BingoBoingo;Nice work mike_c 731679;1403664124;mike_c;thanks bingo. 731680;1403664129;mike_c;TomServo: not yet 731681;1403664244;Vexual;neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning 731682;1403664272;mike_c;live on the edge 731683;1403664526;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23 = 0.69 BTC [-] 731684;1403665340;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 731685;1403665346;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 571.52, vol: 6803.07747613 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 565.76, vol: 3725.13007 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 575.6, vol: 6506.2024117 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 580.0, vol: 48.925372 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 585.461604, vol: 2031.13920000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 586.15372, vol: 2.82964216 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 571.326, vol: 35.10755019 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 731686;1403665391;BingoBoingo;--more 731687;1403665403;thestringpuller;;;more 731688;1403665403;gribble;Error: That's all, there is no more. 731689;1403665406;thestringpuller;lol 731690;1403665448;BingoBoingo;;;more 731691;1403665449;gribble;573.287682316 731692;1403665513;BingoBoingo;;;lasers 731693;1403665513;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 731694;1403665624;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13044 @ 0.00077589 = 10.1207 BTC [+] 731695;1403665719;TomServo;;;bc,stats 731696;1403665722;gribble;Current Blocks: 307671 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 776 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16578107258.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.14213 731697;1403667520;mircea_popescu;Vexual> neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning << lmao 731698;1403667530;mircea_popescu;mike_c i tell you it needs calmer colors 731699;1403667536;mircea_popescu;TomServo shouldn't be long now. 731700;1403667557;mike_c;it's the royal color! 731701;1403667723;bitcoinpete;howdy 731702;1403667738;peterl;hi ya'all 731703;1403667742;mircea_popescu;ola 731704;1403667892;Mats_cd03;TheNewDeal: no. nanking was p much like any other like pillaging, just with better records 731705;1403667957;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: bitcoinpete did like 30% in less than an hour ? << take that buffett ;) 731706;1403667965;peterl;war is hell 731707;1403667988;peterl;not that I would know, I try to avoid it 731708;1403668040;bitcoinpete;i've been getting twitter spammed all day over btcjam doing what btcjam does 731709;1403668072;bitcoinpete;some dood had loans made under his account without his authorization 731710;1403668079;bitcoinpete;nor without any authorization being required 731711;1403668102;mircea_popescu;got gpg, why use it. 731712;1403668112;bitcoinpete;not that btcjam had any reputation to speak of here, just that the word is getting out 731713;1403668130;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: gp…. g? 731714;1403668179;bitcoinpete;also: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/481610517187153920 731715;1403668180;assbot;What exactly is Titcoin? Find out in today's Money & Tech News Update /OfficialTitcoin http://t.co/rFCWEExhud http://t.co/ZUzHp7o7NV 731716;1403668196;bitcoinpete;teaching dem about buttcoins 731717;1403668200;mircea_popescu;lol 731718;1403668214;bitcoinpete;titcoins thinks there's a market for butts AND tits 731719;1403668218;bitcoinpete;i'm skeptical 731720;1403668293;mircea_popescu;i need someone to herd the naked girls for bitcoin subreddit for me 731721;1403668308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.046 = 0.644 BTC [+] 731722;1403668322;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Keep the colors! 731723;1403668341;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: likes reddit. maybe he'll volunteer to coral 'em 731724;1403668356;bitcoinpete;s/coral/corral 731725;1403668369;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.04734838 = 1.4678 BTC [+] {2} 731726;1403668373;mircea_popescu;seems to busy with his scamcoin w/e that is 731727;1403668421;bitcoinpete;horizontalcoin iirc 731728;1403668660;mircea_popescu;- http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com57 - http://feedly.com/index.html42 731729;1403668672;mircea_popescu;there you go pankkake, you beat feedly 731730;1403668796;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00077639 = 6.2111 BTC [+] {2} 731731;1403669018;xmj;fluffypony: are you on skype? 731732;1403670809;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00077664 = 15.0668 BTC [+] 731733;1403672064;wywialm;good morning 731734;1403672090;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00077664 = 5.6695 BTC [+] 731735;1403672172;mircea_popescu;heya 731736;1403672175;mircea_popescu;long time no see 731737;1403672395;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00077515 = 17.1308 BTC [-] {2} 731738;1403672776;BingoBoingo;%ticker 731739;1403672777;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 222 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 177k High: 277 Low: 199 VWAP: 243 731740;1403672782;BingoBoingo;%book 731741;1403672784;atcbot;65k@280 40k@278 25k@222 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 731742;1403673371;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21545982 = 1.2928 BTC [-] {3} 731743;1403673859;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00077664 = 14.0184 BTC [+] 731744;1403674525;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/f-derp-short-risky-bitcoin-startups/2014/06/25 731745;1403674942;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-results-of-the-world-cup-experiment/ 731746;1403675917;benkay;!up Vexual 731747;1403676101;bitcoinpete;so the world cup experiment was fruitful, if costly 731748;1403676108;bitcoinpete;i like the 2btc min bet 731749;1403676126;bitcoinpete;that'd definitely cut down on the spammy number of the wc/other sport bets 731750;1403676153;bitcoinpete;the problem with the wc is simply the number of teams 731751;1403676164;benkay;mircea_popescu, mike_c: cool stuff 731752;1403676189;bitcoinpete;if mp had created a rolland garros bet for every single player + halep it would've been the same problem 731753;1403676209;bitcoinpete;having bets on "advancing" vs winning isn't ideal 731754;1403676223;bitcoinpete;too many advancers 731755;1403676245;bitcoinpete;so nao: barriers to entry 731756;1403676254;bitcoinpete;as ever, a wise move 731757;1403676271;BingoBoingo;http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/dogecoin-creator-jackson-palmer-leave-dogecoin-community-calls-cult-like/2014/06/24 731758;1403676271;assbot;Dogecoin Creator Jackson Palmer To Leave Dogecoin Community; Calls it "Cult-Like" 731759;1403676280;bitcoinpete;lol BingoBoingo just saw that too 731760;1403676286;bitcoinpete;da redditz attacked me! 731761;1403676334;bitcoinpete;ok tired eyes, time for bed... 731762;1403676665;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00077568 = 5.5849 BTC [-] {2} 731763;1403677128;punkman;http://en.chessbase.com/post/ecu-dre-code-for-che-tournaments 731764;1403677128;assbot;ECU Dress Code for chess tournaments | Chess News 731765;1403677142;punkman;"regarding décolletés (in the US "cleavage"): "the second from the top button may be opened." And skirts may be no shorter than 5-10 cm above the knees" 731766;1403677152;punkman;why can't we have sexy chess 731767;1403677275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00077638 = 10.0541 BTC [+] {2} 731768;1403677963;BingoBoingo;Next Inputs.io??? http://www.coindesk.com/hive-adds-litecoin-support-new-web-wallet/ 731769;1403677963;assbot;Hive Adds Litecoin Support With New Web Wallet 731770;1403678739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0007783 = 10.8573 BTC [+] {2} 731771;1403678861;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00077906 = 14.88 BTC [+] 731772;1403679023;mircea_popescu; that'd definitely cut down on the spammy number of the wc/other sport bets << yeah. 731773;1403679053;mircea_popescu; why can't we have sexy chess << i can :D why can't you ? 731774;1403679195;*;punkman can't wait for MP's Naked Chess Tournament 731775;1403679208;punkman;full of brazilian/argentinian booty 731776;1403679242;mircea_popescu;lol 731777;1403679430;punkman;BingoBoingo: OMG No pool hoppers. << actually there's an extra TH on coinminer 731778;1403679439;BingoBoingo;%diff 731779;1403679440;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 210330.52 in 1977 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -58.88 731780;1403679452;BingoBoingo;OMG they left already!!! 731781;1403679465;BingoBoingo;%ticker 731782;1403679466;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 222 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 176k High: 277 Low: 199 VWAP: 243 731783;1403679584;mircea_popescu; mircea_popescu, mike_c: cool stuff <<< :D try it out! 731784;1403679657;BingoBoingo;%book 731785;1403679658;atcbot;65k@280 40k@278 25k@222 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 731786;1403679891;benkay;mircea_popescu: mebbe later - in the meantime i'm enjoying the luxury of going to sleep at midnightish 731787;1403679906;mircea_popescu;hehe 731788;1403680386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00077906 = 8.1801 BTC [+] 731789;1403680392;mircea_popescu;!up [Jan] 731790;1403680446;benkay;apropos of the bash bombs discussed earlier, my favorite part about computanium is how ls'ing in a directory with lots of things will cripple a server 731791;1403680453;benkay;can* 731792;1403680486;mircea_popescu;what sort of lots ? 731793;1403680522;mircea_popescu;unless the drive is shitty and unraided that shouldn't really happen. besides, you shouldn't have the kernel volume shared with userspace anyway. 731794;1403680685;extra;http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker 731795;1403680687;extra;LTC confirmed 731796;1403680713;benkay;40k iirc, and it was on a shitty cloud drive to boot. 731797;1403680717;mircea_popescu;ahahha what 731798;1403680730;mircea_popescu;$depth s.wol 731799;1403680731;empyex;mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Bids: 20000 @ 0.00004100 100000 @ 0.00004000 500000 @ 0.00003500 731800;1403680732;empyex;mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Asks: 731801;1403680737;punkman;mircea_popescu: too many inodes makes ls quite slow 731802;1403680742;mircea_popescu;look at that mike : it's oversold. 731803;1403680869;mircea_popescu;punkman with or w/o writeback mount ? 731804;1403680990;punkman;dunno what that is, but it's reading all the entries in a dir that's slow 731805;1403680997;mircea_popescu;(not that you couldn't call getdents by yourself bypassing the 16kb buffer or whatever fucktarded limit readdir does) 731806;1403681031;mircea_popescu;mkay, in sum : this problem is an artefact of using butter knife to mix concrete rather than any problem of the concrete. 731807;1403681221;punkman;fun tip: if you have a shitload of octopus, cement mixer is a good way to tenderize them 731808;1403681235;mircea_popescu;o.O 731809;1403681789;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00077463 = 13.7884 BTC [-] {2} 731810;1403681855;xmj;Hi. 731811;1403681870;xmj;punkman: how many kg are we talking? 731812;1403682087;punkman;xmj, dunno maybe 10-20kg in small portable mixer, more if you get the truck version :P 731813;1403682112;xmj;hahaha 731814;1403682121;xmj;I wonder, how do you heat the truck version. 731815;1403682127;xmj;Flamethrower, because awesome? 731816;1403682338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33694 @ 0.00078134 = 26.3265 BTC [+] {3} 731817;1403683917;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664691.0 731818;1403683917;assbot;Fight FUD and Scams with social media for trading cryptocurrencies 731819;1403685493;pankkake;http://proscamming.0-host.net/ 731820;1403685494;assbot;--- * ~~~ Professional Scamming ~~~ * --- 731821;1403686954;davout;pankkake: i don't see no twitter bootstrap, not investing 731822;1403687258;davout;what's currently the best non-scam mining rig one can buy these days ? 731823;1403687322;davout;or to state the question a bit differently, what's the current market price of mining power? 731824;1403687542;jurov;davout: cex.io says one GH/s is 0.0075 BTC 731825;1403687584;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20501668 = 2.0502 BTC [-] {4} 731826;1403687624;davout;thanks, i want to do a rough back of the envelope estimate of what kind of investment the recent diff increases imply 731827;1403687661;davout;;;calc 0.0075*20*1000000 731828;1403687661;gribble;150000 731829;1403687670;pankkake;cex is priced rationally? 731830;1403687687;davout;;;calc 150000*600 731831;1403687687;gribble;90000000 731832;1403687761;davout;pankkake: what's your best way to estimate? 731833;1403687767;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.201 = 1.005 BTC [-] 731834;1403687788;pankkake;I don't know 731835;1403687953;jurov;pankkake is anything priced rationally? Not in BTC, at least. 731836;1403688392;jurov;S.WOL added to coinbr 731837;1403688396;jurov;yay for mike_c 731838;1403688560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00081608 = 11.9964 BTC [+] 731839;1403691582;punkman;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664614.0 731840;1403691582;assbot;[NEW]Gambling invest!!!ROI 20 - 200% 731841;1403693135;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.202 = 6.868 BTC [+] 731842;1403693501;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.19942857 = 1.396 BTC [-] {3} 731843;1403693989;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4073 @ 0.00082529 = 3.3614 BTC [+] 731844;1403695148;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9038 @ 0.00082369 = 7.4445 BTC [-] {2} 731845;1403695416;moiety;mewning! 731846;1403696610;pankkake;;;later tell davout http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/290rph/coming_soon_ghs_price_on_cexio_will_crash/cigicgh 731847;1403696611;assbot;IkmoIkmo comments on coming soon- GH/s price on cex.io will crash 731848;1403696611;gribble;The operation succeeded. 731849;1403697040;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00081703 = 0.6536 BTC [-] 731850;1403697100;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00081642 = 4.327 BTC [-] 731851;1403697761;moiety;2nd of july i shall have proper intevebs! \o/ 731852;1403698836;dub;trusting an LEC commit! 731853;1403699235;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14406 @ 0.00081893 = 11.7975 BTC [+] {2} 731854;1403700662;BingoBoingo;%diff 731855;1403700663;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 252691.36 in 1949 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -50.60 731856;1403700890;davout;pankkake: thx! 731857;1403701382;davout;still wondering how i could get the closest to reality when calculating how much it'd cost to bring an extra PH/s to the network 731858;1403701529;davout;closest i can think of is take the current best rig that actually sells and use that as basis 731859;1403701614;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00081385 = 4.3541 BTC [-] 731860;1403701887;ThickAsThieves;i imagine it'd be hard to just buy 1PH, everyone does preorders, isnt Rockminer selling units for ASICMINER around now? 731861;1403701954;ThickAsThieves;Rocket Box 450G-490G 480W[shipping around 27th,June] 990mbtc each if you buy 4 units 731862;1403701977;ThickAsThieves;1PH would surely be cheaper if you contacted them to make arrangements 731863;1403701993;ThickAsThieves;(cheaper rate) 731864;1403702076;davout;ThickAsThieves: i see, i'm not really trying to be very precise here, just a ballpark estimate for the recent ~47PH/s increase 731865;1403702106;ThickAsThieves;$1m 731866;1403702110;ThickAsThieves;for 1 PH 731867;1403702115;ThickAsThieves;by my napkin math 731868;1403702127;ThickAsThieves;maybe discount is deeper at that size i dunno 731869;1403702174;ThickAsThieves;altough the costs to set that much gear up and run it for a bit would surely add up fast 731870;1403702214;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 731871;1403702216;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 557.56, Best ask: 561.08, Bid-ask spread: 3.52000, Last trade: 561.11, 24 hour volume: 9245.61146986, 24 hour low: 555.11, 24 hour high: 587.95, 24 hour vwap: 572.508947449 731872;1403702227;ThickAsThieves;the cut should be almost over... 731873;1403702341;davout;ThickAsThieves: yeah, when i take the chart of currently available hardware and do the math against their cost (disregarding $/kwh) $1mn/PH is the lowest i get 731874;1403702371;davout;actually €1.25mn/PH 731875;1403702429;ThickAsThieves;lotsa dough 731876;1403702481;ThickAsThieves;i wonder how long before 1PH pays for itself in coin 731877;1403702508;ThickAsThieves;could work out this round for people, since the money may have been spent when BTC was worth %800+ 731878;1403702510;ThickAsThieves;$ 731879;1403702745;mthreat;ACM world finals problems, https://icpc.kattis.com/problems 731880;1403703390;ThickAsThieves;"All you do is plug it into a printer's USB port, and the device uses specialized hardware to create a random number with 256-bits of entropy." 731881;1403703400;ThickAsThieves;https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mycelium-entropy 731882;1403703400;assbot;Mycelium Entropy | Indiegogo 731883;1403703456;ThickAsThieves;^ asciilifeform 731884;1403703540;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/maidsafe-lessons-learned-crowdsale/ 731885;1403703541;assbot;MaidSafe COO Reflects on Lessons Learned from Crowdsale 731886;1403703550;ThickAsThieves;"BitAngels, the angel investment group which was helping out with the crowdsale, expected mastercoins to comprise no more than 25% of the overall investment. Instead, Lambert explained, they ended up making up roughly half of the investment total." 731887;1403703563;ThickAsThieves;“A lot of people questioned why we would use two currencies, and looking back we [should] have used one.” 731888;1403703571;ThickAsThieves;maybe thatll be on his grave 731889;1403704169;davout;full chart if anyone is interested : http://i.imgur.com/TpCGCOk.png 731890;1403704237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0479 = 0.958 BTC [-] 731891;1403704359;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00081411 = 4.8032 BTC [+] 731892;1403704511;jborkl;well that was a derp move 731893;1403704603;ThickAsThieves;!up zoinky 731894;1403704620;ThickAsThieves;!up miaoux 731895;1403704622;zoinky;woo 30 minutes 731896;1403704628;ThickAsThieves;!up dR3___ 731897;1403704633;ThickAsThieves;!up dignork 731898;1403704669;ThickAsThieves;hehe 731899;1403704681;ThickAsThieves;same zoinky from tradingview? 731900;1403704682;zoinky;dont even know what to say 731901;1403704686;zoinky;yeah 731902;1403704692;ThickAsThieves;<---bitcoinassets 731903;1403704749;zoinky;don't recall the name on TV TBH, i know you as TAT from here and forums 731904;1403704764;zoinky;maybe if i saw the avatar haha 731905;1403704771;ThickAsThieves;word, i dont chat as much as others there 731906;1403704792;ThickAsThieves;avatar is kim jong un getting goxxed 731907;1403704829;zoinky;mostly trolls there idk why i chat there 731908;1403704848;zoinky;guess im easily trolled 731909;1403704852;ThickAsThieves;there's a few guys trying to be normal 731910;1403704867;ThickAsThieves;though some do FUD to get the trades going their way 731911;1403704956;zoinky;price droopy 731912;1403704958;BingoBoingo;%book 731913;1403704959;atcbot;20k@293 65k@280 35k@279 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 731914;1403704962;BingoBoingo;!mpif 731915;1403704963;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-] 731916;1403704969;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4159 @ 0.00081411 = 3.3859 BTC [+] 731917;1403704985;BingoBoingo;!t m s.bbet 731918;1403704985;assbot;[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (381 shares, 0.19 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00048666 / 0.000525 (8328 shares, 4.05 BTC) 731919;1403705010;benkay;!t m s.wol 731920;1403705011;assbot;I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs. 731921;1403705023;ThickAsThieves;yep, it took longer than i thought to get to 560, one more little leg down and then sideways with a slight incline til the auction (maybe) 731922;1403705041;benkay;!l m s.wol 731923;1403705041;assbot;The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. 731924;1403705062;ThickAsThieves;i thought s.wol was .00003, yet the asks are .000035 and up 731925;1403705120;ThickAsThieves;zoinky are you in the WoT? 731926;1403705131;ThickAsThieves;;;gettrust zoinky 731927;1403705131;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user zoinky: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=zoinky | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=zoinky | Rated since: never 731928;1403705142;benkay;kakobrekla: assbot doesn't know about wol? 731929;1403705154;benkay;!l m s.wol 731930;1403705154;assbot;Stupid fucking white man. 731931;1403705157;benkay;!l m s.nsa 731932;1403705157;assbot;Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00013 BTC [-] 731933;1403705159;BingoBoingo;thestringpuller: It's a small offering? Or maybe people want shares FIRST!!! 731934;1403705178;ThickAsThieves;benkay i suspect s.wol isnt fully set up in mpex for real for real 731935;1403705196;benkay;i do wonder about the ur-account on mpex 731936;1403705209;benkay;that from which all assets are pushed 731937;1403705215;benkay;and that to which all btc drain 731938;1403705239;benkay;(i dreamt about it last night) 731939;1403705242;BingoBoingo;Oh, I tagged the wrong autocomplete. 731940;1403705263;ThickAsThieves;"mircea_popescu:we scam everyone later." 731941;1403705324;ThickAsThieves;!up Pasha 731942;1403705331;jurov;ThickAsThieves I already pestered asciilifeform with that mycelium gizmo, he said it's some atmel satanic stuff, i then saw it opened and it was true 731943;1403705368;ThickAsThieves;satanic, as in, the rng is more like png? 731944;1403705426;jurov;the rng is hidden on the chip 731945;1403705438;jurov;it's one chip solution 731946;1403705497;ThickAsThieves;word 731947;1403705526;ThickAsThieves;when the heck is cardano coming out, i already wanna know what the 2nd product will be 731948;1403705549;jurov;the 3rd, you mean. first one was phuctor 731949;1403705611;ThickAsThieves;well, hardware 731950;1403705612;ThickAsThieves;toys 731951;1403705648;jurov;http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/ huh? 731952;1403705648;assbot;BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (96%) on Yes, 0.05 B (4%) on No | closing in 6 months 4 days | weight: 83`843 (100`000 to 1) 731953;1403705674;ThickAsThieves;not much confidence there 731954;1403705721;jurov;http://bitbet.us/bet/636/cardano-delivered-before-christmas/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc and this one was total fiasco 731955;1403705721;assbot;BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas :: 0.57 B (81%) on Yes, 0.13 B (19%) on No | closed 6 months 1 week ago 731956;1403705884;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00081533 = 9.6087 BTC [+] {2} 731957;1403705975;ThickAsThieves;weird i have no recollection of betting on this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/873/any-european-team-to-win-2014-fifa-football/ 731958;1403705975;assbot;BitBet - Any European team to win 2014 FIFA Football World Cup :: 0.33 B (44%) on Yes, 0.42 B (56%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 35`628 (100`000 to 1) 731959;1403705977;ThickAsThieves;yet i did 731960;1403706000;benkay;haxx and scams 731961;1403706025;jurov;someone used your addy to make you paranoid 731962;1403706058;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0P034F9.txt ) 731963;1403706058;BingoBoingo;!b 4 731964;1403706071;jurov;noooo 731965;1403706099;ThickAsThieves;bitbet selective scamming by associating bets wrongly! 731966;1403706114;ThickAsThieves;this is kinda funny https://docs.google.com/a/mixedmedia.pro/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AieQiVL6xc-1dHE5anhTSGotYUVIMmR5cERIYU5BOVE&output=html 731967;1403706114;assbot;2014 Daytrading CURRENT 731968;1403706122;ThickAsThieves;trading log for a losing trader 731969;1403706128;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22779556 = 0.6834 BTC [-] 731970;1403706141;jurov;i was going to lament unmanageable bash mod queue... but kako emptied it :) 731971;1403706141;kakobrekla;benkay its not in the mpex api output 731972;1403706152;rithm;what is mixedmedia.pro 731973;1403706179;rithm;"your total marketing solution" 731974;1403706180;kakobrekla;jurov i noticed our bash acceptance rate is far apart :) 731975;1403706184;ThickAsThieves;ah it's a docs domain i use 731976;1403706198;ThickAsThieves;oops 731977;1403706202;rithm;silent stalker over here 731978;1403706226;jurov;tat paranoia++ 731979;1403706256;rithm;the link it takes you to is sanitixed 731980;1403706259;rithm;fwiw 731981;1403706288;ThickAsThieves;word 731982;1403706316;jurov;don't sleep with deprived. word. 731983;1403706326;rithm;this is hilarious 731984;1403706350;ThickAsThieves;don't sleep with deprived? 731985;1403706361;zoinky;I am not in WoT 731986;1403706368;ThickAsThieves;ah dont trade sleep deprived 731987;1403706369;ThickAsThieves;hehe 731988;1403706382;jurov;Rule 1 731989;1403706388;rithm;but he's actually up to 12 from 6,500 731990;1403706399;rithm;in 90 days or so 731991;1403706401;ThickAsThieves;this trader's biggets problem, which he is so obliviously documenting, is he is emotional 731992;1403706407;rithm;unless i misunderstand 731993;1403706463;ThickAsThieves;!up zoinky 731994;1403706478;zoinky;how does one get in wot 731995;1403706520;ThickAsThieves;here's the original link fwiw https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AieQiVL6xc-1dHE5anhTSGotYUVIMmR5cERIYU5BOVE&output=html 731996;1403706520;assbot;2014 Daytrading CURRENT 731997;1403706531;rithm;reminds me of rithm.blue/2014/06/24/confirmation-bias-a-blessing-or-a-curse/ 731998;1403706534;ThickAsThieves;zoinky one sec 731999;1403706539;jurov;zoinky http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 732000;1403706539;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 732001;1403706546;ThickAsThieves;jurov beat me to it 732002;1403706555;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22782704 = 0.6835 BTC [+] {2} 732003;1403706586;zoinky;ok thanks ill check it out 732004;1403706616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02848654 = 0.5697 BTC [+] 732005;1403706647;ThickAsThieves;https://rithmblue.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/rithm-blue-titsintshirt.png 732006;1403706652;ThickAsThieves;:) 732007;1403706726;ThickAsThieves;rithmblue is audio production? is there samples somewhere? i just see live vids 732008;1403706785;rithm;all i have at this time is live audio 732009;1403706790;rithm;studio is still being built 732010;1403706803;ThickAsThieves;cool, i dabble myself, have home studio, etc 732011;1403706826;rithm;well i haven't decided on the studio setup you can help me 732012;1403706839;rithm;i want 24 channels and analog but digital option 732013;1403706865;rithm;kinda want to be able to record to vinyl 732014;1403706879;ThickAsThieves;i dont use a board, just a collection of lunchbox stuff 732015;1403706903;rithm;that's cool because mostly everything i do i use my zoom h4n for right now 732016;1403706919;ThickAsThieves;my ADDA is an old MOTU cuz it has some particularly good chip in it 732017;1403706930;ThickAsThieves;828mkii 732018;1403706982;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6412 @ 0.00082025 = 5.2594 BTC [+] 732019;1403707002;ThickAsThieves;not sure what stage youre at, but for me the best jump in quality was getting that ADDA, a decent tube mic, and a high-quality mic pre 732020;1403707012;chetty;http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/25/want-to-disprove-man-made-climate-change-a-scientist-will-give-you-10000-if-you-can/ 732021;1403707012;assbot;Want to Disprove Man-Made Climate Change? A Scientist Will Give You $10,000 if You Can | TheBlaze.com 732022;1403707059;rithm;because i'm still building the studio (construction) mostly i do live stuff 732023;1403707064;rithm;live a/v events 732024;1403707104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04789916 = 0.5748 BTC [-] {2} 732025;1403707127;ThickAsThieves;cool, yeah you probably want more versatile stuff then, like a good mixing board 732026;1403707132;chetty;So this 'scientist' wants to pay for someone to prove a negative! 732027;1403707139;ThickAsThieves;hehe 732028;1403707166;rithm;i got an imgur of my rig somewhere 732029;1403707206;rithm;ok so firstly, bitcoin bought all of this 732030;1403707208;rithm;http://imgur.com/CaiSMZO 732031;1403707209;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 732032;1403707228;ThickAsThieves;http://crypto-comics.com/comic36.png 732033;1403707249;xmj;Maybe I'm having a day 732034;1403707251;rithm;halorig.com mini, Zoom H4n line out, splitter +headphones, line in to Canon Vixia HF G20 732035;1403707253;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/579/46/which-record-type-option-should-i-choose-for-the-information-im-about-to-enter 732036;1403707255;assbot;Which record type option should I choose for the information Im about to enter?(DNS Questions) Namecheap.com Knowledgebase 732037;1403707259;xmj;and maybe CentOS is just a worthless piece of shit. 732038;1403707260;mike_c;scroll down to NS record 732039;1403707284;mike_c;subdomain: seeds host: 54.whatever.i.said 732040;1403707301;ThickAsThieves;k i'll work on it 732041;1403707324;ThickAsThieves;that menu is probably buried somewhere else, i couldnt find anything that looks like that 732042;1403707333;mike_c;well, you were in the nameserver section 732043;1403707338;mike_c;which isn't quite right 732044;1403707349;mike_c;cuz that's for the root domain 732045;1403707371;ThickAsThieves;i was only there as a last resort, cuz the DNS secrtion only allowed TXT or CNAME 732046;1403707376;mike_c;hm 732047;1403707379;ThickAsThieves;it's all fucked up 732048;1403707386;ThickAsThieves;i shoulda just used my own DNS 732049;1403707496;ThickAsThieves;yeah it only shows A, TXT, CNAME as options... i'll dig 732050;1403707581;punkman;you are on the wrong page 732051;1403707601;ThickAsThieves;i cant find "All Host Records" like the support doc says 732052;1403707610;xmj;if i may ask 732053;1403707614;xmj;what are you trying to achieve? 732054;1403707623;ThickAsThieves;a subdomain pointing to an IP 732055;1403707639;mike_c;we are trying to put a NS record in therealaltcoin.org that sets the nameserver for seeds.therealaltcoin.org 732056;1403707644;ThickAsThieves;more specifically, where the fuck Namecheap hides such setting 732057;1403707674;mike_c;this custom nameserver is running altcoin-seeder 732058;1403707674;punkman;https://manage.www.namecheap.com/myaccount/modsingle.asp?domain=YOURDOMAIN.COM&type=nameserver&rkey=NC 732059;1403707675;assbot;Login Signup 732060;1403707677;punkman;there 732061;1403707713;ThickAsThieves;thats what i did last time 732062;1403707725;ThickAsThieves;which i gave mike_c a screenshot of 732063;1403707744;punkman;well youi need to run a nameserver then 732064;1403707749;mike_c;we are. 732065;1403707765;mike_c;but only for seeds.therealaltco.org 732066;1403707778;ThickAsThieves;i'll show what that link results in 732067;1403707874;mthreat;Final standings ACM world finals: http://icpc.baylor.edu/scoreboard/ 732068;1403707875;assbot;the 38th Annual World Finals of the ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest 732069;1403707884;mthreat;no US team in top 10 732070;1403707935;ThickAsThieves;(i did this yesterday) after i add info, this is what it shows for it: http://imgur.com/iHFPZli 732071;1403707935;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 732072;1403707958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16373 @ 0.00082389 = 13.4896 BTC [+] 732073;1403707970;ThickAsThieves;there's no place that looks like the link mike_c gave from their doc 732074;1403707981;ThickAsThieves;where i can fully choose to make any kind of record 732075;1403708041;punkman;you need to make ns1.therealaltcoin.org and ns2.therealaltcoin.org, point to nameserver ip 732076;1403708066;punkman;then add seed, ns1.therealaltcoin.org NS record 732077;1403708107;jurov;ThickAsThieves: I had to look 732078;1403708118;jurov;and on Modify Domain screen 732079;1403708121;punkman;ThickAsThieves: does the domain use the host's nameserver? 732080;1403708125;ThickAsThieves;yes 732081;1403708134;punkman;well then you need to go there and add NS record 732082;1403708142;ThickAsThieves;... 732083;1403708147;jurov;there is NS record under ADVANCED in the RCORD TYPE dropdown 732084;1403708160;punkman;yeah but you gotta use NC's nameserver for that 732085;1403708313;ThickAsThieves;i see no "advanced" in this window jurov 732086;1403708384;punkman;oh you use namecheap hosting for it 732087;1403708388;ThickAsThieves;yes 732088;1403708415;ThickAsThieves;in that screenshot, do i just put this custom IP in the ns1 and ns2 boxes and add that? 732089;1403708438;pankkake;ns1 and ns2 should be namecheap nameserver ips 732090;1403708464;punkman;do you see a link on the menu that says "Transfer DNS Back to Us"? 732091;1403708478;ThickAsThieves;it's always there, but yeah 732092;1403708482;ThickAsThieves;even if you use them 732093;1403708500;punkman;no if you use them it says "Transfer to web host" 732094;1403708514;jurov;http://live.coinbr.com/images/Namecheap.com_-_Modify_Domain_%28anonml.com%29_-_2014-06-25_16.59.46-fs8.png here's how would i point subdomain to cloudflare 732095;1403708533;punkman;maybe the hosting account menu has something about dns? 732096;1403708538;punkman;never used that myself 732097;1403708539;ThickAsThieves;jurov i cant find that window 732098;1403708555;punkman;yeah because you use namecheaphosting dns, not namecheap dns 732099;1403708583;ThickAsThieves;lol 732100;1403708590;jurov;menu -> manage domains -> click on domain name -> all host records 732101;1403708597;ThickAsThieves;doesnt exist 732102;1403708598;ThickAsThieves;ok 732103;1403708603;ThickAsThieves;i think punkman is onto something 732104;1403708604;jurov;which step doesnt exist? 732105;1403708612;ThickAsThieves;so i'm using their DNS, just not THEIR DNS 732106;1403708614;ThickAsThieves;or someshit 732107;1403708632;punkman;my domain with NC DNS uses DNS1.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM 732108;1403708642;punkman;not DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM 732109;1403708653;punkman;which is what therealaltcoin has 732110;1403708670;ThickAsThieves;All Host Records now appears! 732111;1403708744;mike_c;thanks guys. TaT and I were not getting closer to the goal :) 732112;1403708777;ThickAsThieves;yes thx, almost done 732113;1403708781;ThickAsThieves;hoepfully 732114;1403708873;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18414 @ 0.00082389 = 15.1711 BTC [+] 732115;1403709064;ThickAsThieves;so i need to wait the TTL time before checking if this worked right? 732116;1403709083;ThickAsThieves;1800 is 30m if i recall? 732117;1403709096;mike_c;ttl is a suggestion 732118;1403709101;ThickAsThieves;ah 732119;1403709129;ThickAsThieves;how do i know if it's working, does an NS record show up on whatsmydns.net? 732120;1403709152;mike_c;what should happen is eventually you do a dig -t any therealaltcoin.org and it shows up 732121;1403709165;pankkake;you can ask the responsible dns server directly, bypassing ISP caches 732122;1403709206;ThickAsThieves;i dont understand either of you 732123;1403709208;ThickAsThieves;:) 732124;1403709238;ThickAsThieves;i can tell ya when i visit seeds.therealaltcoin.org it behaves differently now :/ 732125;1403709260;mike_c;uh oh 732126;1403709265;mike_c;A record seems to be gone 732127;1403709292;punkman;did you transfer "back to us"? 732128;1403709295;ThickAsThieves;yes 732129;1403709303;ThickAsThieves;probly a delay in that? 732130;1403709304;mike_c;oh, nvm. it's there now. weird. 732131;1403709305;punkman;because now it has no idea what IP the root is 732132;1403709352;punkman;unless they've added some magic 732133;1403709368;punkman;*root domain 732134;1403709389;ThickAsThieves;the page loads at least 732135;1403709408;ThickAsThieves;but no idea if the seeds subdomain is set up as needed yet 732136;1403709416;punkman;and if you add it manually, then namecheaphosting can't update the IP if it ever changes 732137;1403709425;mike_c;ThickAsThieves: the point is not for seeds.therealaltcoin.org to show a web page. what should happen when this is working is that it will point to active ATC nodes (which probably aren't running web servers) 732138;1403709451;ThickAsThieves;i understand that no page would load (i assum you'd need to do something on your end for a page to load via http for it) 732139;1403709477;ThickAsThieves;what i dont understand is how to check if i did it right 732140;1403709518;mike_c;i'll let you know. 732141;1403709533;ThickAsThieves;cool 732142;1403709567;TomServo;*** ns1.namecheaphosting.com can't find seeds.therealaltcoin.org: Non-existent domain 732143;1403709578;TomServo;Is that your DNS server? 732144;1403709609;punkman;TomServo: ns1.therealaltcoin.org is supposed to be the NS for seeds. 732145;1403709656;ThickAsThieves;so should i add a nameserver in addition to the NS record? 732146;1403709670;ThickAsThieves;pointing to same outside IP? 732147;1403709676;mike_c;54.x.x.x *is* a nameserver 732148;1403709715;mike_c;how many assetters does it take to screw in a lightbulb :p 732149;1403709719;TomServo;haha 732150;1403709727;ThickAsThieves;lol 732151;1403709737;ThickAsThieves;we're like new breed of plumbers 732152;1403709744;ThickAsThieves;where does this pipe go!? 732153;1403709762;TomServo;not sure, but it definitely needs more flux 732154;1403709772;ThickAsThieves;crack it open and see what pours out! 732155;1403709794;ThickAsThieves;"that's the sewage" "oh, shit." 732156;1403709804;Mats_cd03;ym is a nameserver 732157;1403709828;ThickAsThieves;http://nypost.com/2014/06/25/its-david-vs-goliath-in-race-to-launch-nys-first-regulated-bitcoin-exchange/ 732158;1403709829;assbot;It’s David vs. Goliath in race to launch NY’s first regulated bitcoin exchange | New York Post 732159;1403709837;ThickAsThieves;"The twilight of the rule-writing process — expected now in early July — has started internal discussions at Nasdaq about how to take advantage of the currency’s growing popularity, sources said." 732160;1403709839;xmj;hrm 732161;1403709888;ThickAsThieves;"Should Nasdaq officials decide to go forward, they likely will move quickly — exchange officials expect to create a regulated platform for bitcoin buyers and sellers in about a year, one source said." 732162;1403709960;kakobrekla;http://www.coindesk.com/switzerland-government-report-bitcoin-insignificant-legislation/ 732163;1403709961;assbot;Swiss Government Report: Bitcoin Too 'Insignificant' for Legislation 732164;1403709969;ThickAsThieves;i tried to do a lil promo for War of Life on reddit and got deleted, after getting 3 upvotes nonetheless 732165;1403709981;ThickAsThieves;must be a competitor modding 732166;1403709994;Apocalyptic;reditards at their best 732167;1403710016;jurov;does WoL have referrals? 732168;1403710031;ThickAsThieves;good q! 732169;1403710060;ThickAsThieves;"bitcoin.org's content is managed by Saïvann Carignan, who is somewhat associated with the Foundation (though not an employee AFAIK), but the bitcoin.org domain name is jointly owned by me, Sirius, and an anonymous person. We will take action if bitcoin.org is being used inappropriately or the development group does something crazy." ~Theymos 732170;1403710459;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2901 @ 0.00082389 = 2.3901 BTC [+] 732171;1403710588;ThickAsThieves;mike_c in the WoL Shares area, why not show first bits like BitBet does? 732172;1403710638;ThickAsThieves;also with current pop-up method, it doesnt allow copy-pasting an addy 732173;1403710690;Mats_cd03;i am tired of hearing about theymos 732174;1403710706;Mats_cd03;its time he gets hit by a car 732175;1403710741;pankkake;Mats_cd03: that is grounds for a twitter ban 732176;1403710744;ThickAsThieves;mike_c it's also hard to find my bets, maybe a search function is needed like bitbet too 732177;1403710766;mike_c;why can't you copy-paste? 732178;1403710795;mike_c;search sounds like good idea 732179;1403710807;ThickAsThieves;cuz the pop up disappears when i move mouse 732180;1403710820;ThickAsThieves;also the closed games have no timestamps or anything 732181;1403710832;mike_c;what? what browser/os are you on? 732182;1403710839;ThickAsThieves;basically i bet while half asleep last night and have no idea on what 732183;1403710844;ThickAsThieves;chrome 732184;1403710940;ThickAsThieves;also recommend a "previous" & "next" game link to chronologically page thru 732185;1403711511;mike_c;there's only one active GoW at a time. but i do want to add a list of old games, etc. 732186;1403711618;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23383 @ 0.00082161 = 19.2117 BTC [-] {2} 732187;1403711862;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4089 @ 0.00082231 = 3.3624 BTC [+] 732188;1403711882;punkman;ThickAsThieves: think you broke it, http://www.therealaltcoin.org/ 400 Bad Request 732189;1403711883;assbot;400 Bad Request 732190;1403711909;ThickAsThieves;mofo 732191;1403711985;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79952895 BTC to 9`635 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 732192;1403712045;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.045 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} 732193;1403712046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00082655 = 14.01 BTC [+] {2} 732194;1403712265;mircea_popescu;http://pastebin.com/xNLprWFE for the lulz 732195;1403712266;assbot;Selina selinamartindale@gmail.com http://www.thinkkeno.net/%E7%8F%BE%E7%89%A9% - Pastebin.com 732196;1403712289;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04432367 = 0.8421 BTC [-] {5} 732197;1403712306;ThickAsThieves;heh 732198;1403712334;ThickAsThieves;alright so basically i need to add all the DNS records that were in the host before, to the changed to nameserver, right? 732199;1403712488;ThickAsThieves;seeds.therealaltcoin.org seems to be working for Seattle 732200;1403712592;mircea_popescu;curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'seeds.therealaltcoin.org' 732201;1403712598;mircea_popescu;prolly in an hour or so 732202;1403712600;punkman;ThickAsThieves: do you have a VPS or shared with NC hosting? 732203;1403712870;ThickAsThieves;i think i fixed it all 732204;1403712922;ThickAsThieves;the only xfactor is the A records all didnt like a "." at the end of the IP entry, whereas seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS record accepted it 732205;1403712927;ThickAsThieves;the site loads again now too 732206;1403712933;ThickAsThieves;now ait 732207;1403712936;ThickAsThieves;lol 732208;1403712978;ThickAsThieves;i do not have a VPS 732209;1403712999;ThickAsThieves;http://www.therealaltcoin.org/ works 732210;1403712999;assbot;400 Bad Request 732211;1403713000;punkman;I don't seen any entries for seeds subdomain 732212;1403713109;BingoBoingo;%diff 732213;1403713110;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 324223.45 in 1913 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -36.61 732214;1403713122;punkman;%tslb 732215;1403713123;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 732216;1403713204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04228851 = 2.495 BTC [-] {8} 732217;1403713215;mircea_popescu;;;calc 266666*.9 732218;1403713215;gribble;239999.4 732219;1403713276;mircea_popescu;;;calc 58333 *.9 732220;1403713277;gribble;52499.7 732221;1403713296;ThickAsThieves;it's odd that the www. works but not without it, being that www. is the CNAME 732222;1403713342;mircea_popescu;you prolly don't have a * record 732223;1403713353;ThickAsThieves;the @ one? 732224;1403713359;mircea_popescu;no, the * one 732225;1403713362;ThickAsThieves;hmm 732226;1403713368;mircea_popescu;;;google dns catchall 732227;1403713369;gribble;Wildcard DNS record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; How can I set up a catch-all (wildcard) subdomain? (DNS Questions ...: ; Is a wildcard CNAME DNS record valid? - Server Fault: (1 more message) 732228;1403713408;punkman;you need @ not * 732229;1403713411;davout;ThickAsThieves: both work from here 732230;1403713424;davout;yeah, you don't need a * record for the root domain 732231;1403713441;ThickAsThieves;should i remove the * record then? 732232;1403713444;davout;and if www is CNAME'd to the root you don't need it at all 732233;1403713491;davout;i don't really like to keep those around unless i need them because i want to have a domain-dependent behaviour 732234;1403713499;davout;*subdomain dependent behaviour 732235;1403713502;ThickAsThieves;www is indeed cname'd to root, but @ is pointing to the server IP 732236;1403713505;mircea_popescu;davout well sure 732237;1403713528;ThickAsThieves;which i assume is correct, only the root domain doesnt load, for me at least 732238;1403713537;ThickAsThieves;www. does load though 732239;1403713558;davout;ThickAsThieves: try from your mobile phone, disconnected form wifi 732240;1403713571;davout;dns caching is a bitch 732241;1403713590;ThickAsThieves;lol davout, incidentally, Paris is the only IP that hasnt updated yet 732242;1403713595;ThickAsThieves;so yours might break soon too 732243;1403713602;ThickAsThieves;https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/therealaltcoin.org 732244;1403713610;davout;"Paris is the only IP that hasnt updated yet" <<< does not compute 732245;1403713620;ThickAsThieves;look at link above 732246;1403713627;mircea_popescu;til .mp is an actual tld 732247;1403713648;davout;sfr is one of many providers 732248;1403713660;ThickAsThieves;ok it loads fine in Tor 732249;1403713665;davout;there's no such thing as "the dns for paris" :D 732250;1403713666;mircea_popescu;davout no dude he knows remotely the situation of dns in paris 732251;1403713671;ThickAsThieves;hehe 732252;1403713672;mircea_popescu;dub's a noob :D 732253;1403713685;ThickAsThieves;well it was an inconvenient coincidence 732254;1403713692;ThickAsThieves;considering the only french guy could see it 732255;1403713699;davout;golden rule when fucking with dns : "test after changing the configuration, never before, or you'll be stuck with shit being cached" 732256;1403713716;mircea_popescu;"The get.mp site is a bit defunct as the certificate is expired." 732257;1403713722;ThickAsThieves;alls well 732258;1403713727;mircea_popescu;the steaks in my fridge are a bit defunct too! 732259;1403713740;ThickAsThieves;now i just need confirmation the seeds.therealaltcoin.org is doing what it's supposed to 732260;1403713749;mircea_popescu;davout or just floosh a lot 732261;1403713821;ThickAsThieves;so can i have an A record fors seeds. too? 732262;1403713828;davout;i just check the configs with a "dig A domain.tld @ns.otherdomain.tld" 732263;1403713829;ThickAsThieves;so it doesnt timeout when loaded in web browser? 732264;1403713859;ThickAsThieves;maybe pointing to text file of current seeds? 732265;1403713866;ThickAsThieves;or is that just pointless 732266;1403713868;punkman;seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 40000INNS54.197.241.190. 732267;1403713868;punkman;seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 60INA54.197.241.190 732268;1403713911;ThickAsThieves;i dunno what that means 732269;1403713922;ThickAsThieves;alls well? 732270;1403713938;mircea_popescu;->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 58366 732271;1403713940;mircea_popescu;lol win 732272;1403713952;punkman;I did dig -t ANY seeds.therealaltcoin.org @54.197.241.190 732273;1403714019;mircea_popescu;mine's ambigous 732274;1403714020;mircea_popescu;seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 40000INNS54.197.241.190. 732275;1403714021;mircea_popescu;seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 60INA122.49.204.147 732276;1403714030;punkman;right, that's good 732277;1403714036;davout;seeds.therealaltcoin.org doesn't seem to actually have any name servers defined 732278;1403714054;davout;therealaltcoin.org does 732279;1403714063;davout;ThickAsThieves: what the fuck have you done? 732280;1403714063;punkman;davout, dig -t ANY seeds.therealaltcoin.org @dns1.registrar-servers.com 732281;1403714070;ThickAsThieves;seeds. has an NS record with value= 54.197.241.190 732282;1403714110;davout;ThickAsThieves: i assert the contrary 732283;1403714138;davout;punkman: if you force the nameserver you're cheating! 732284;1403714154;ThickAsThieves;well being that i'm minimally experience with this stuff, i dont know what youre suggesting i do 732285;1403714189;davout;are you hosting the NS server yourself ? 732286;1403714203;ThickAsThieves;it's namecheap's 732287;1403714205;davout;i'd try to see why you're getting a servfail 732288;1403714209;ThickAsThieves;but i can add any record 732289;1403714210;davout;hmm 732290;1403714230;thestringpuller;;;seen BingoBoingo 732291;1403714230;gribble;BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 minutes and 41 seconds ago: %diff 732292;1403714247;ThickAsThieves;i'll ss my current records 732293;1403714248;chetty;Supreme Court bans warrantless cell phone searches 732294;1403714338;davout;ThickAsThieves: it's very weird that your subdomain doesn't seem to have an associated nameserver when asking without asking dns1.registrar-servers.com 732295;1403714352;ThickAsThieves;http://imgur.com/0wLdYIn 732296;1403714353;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 732297;1403714367;ThickAsThieves;that should help 732298;1403714478;davout;ThickAsThieves: why do you have the last line ? 732299;1403714492;davout;why do you need to associate a separate nameserver to the seeds subdomain ? 732300;1403714492;mircea_popescu; Supreme Court bans warrantless cell phone searches << ya, that'll do a lot. 732301;1403714505;mircea_popescu;usg will just redefine "cellphones" as laptops or w/e 732302;1403714511;ThickAsThieves;cuz mike_c told me to, cuz that IP is his and a nameserver 732303;1403714520;davout;didn't you mean to have an A record instead ? 732304;1403714523;Apocalyptic;anyway NSA isn't bound by law, is it ? 732305;1403714532;ThickAsThieves;i only menat to do as told 732306;1403714540;ThickAsThieves;should it be A instead? 732307;1403714550;punkman;mike's nameserver spits out node IPs as A records 732308;1403714552;mircea_popescu;this should be interesting, how tat's soup comes out with al lthe asset cooks 732309;1403714593;ThickAsThieves;i dont have a problem hosting the seeds myself, if handheld through it 732310;1403714642;davout;punkman: so the use case is that they're going to be multiple seeds, managed by mike_c like s1.seeds.therealtcoin.org ? 732311;1403714658;ThickAsThieves;no it's just a list i think 732312;1403714687;ThickAsThieves;i think the plan is to embed this subdomain into the altcoin software, so newbs can get the chain easier 732313;1403714695;dignork;ThickAsThieves: http://serverfault.com/questions/100307/can-the-value-for-a-ns-record-be-an-ip-address 732314;1403714695;assbot;dns - Can the value for a NS record be an IP address? - Server Fault 732315;1403714700;davout;ThickAsThieves: so when hitting seeds.therealaltcoins.org, a single server will spit out a list of seeds, in some format for use by the atc client ? 732316;1403714714;ThickAsThieves;i think so 732317;1403714722;ThickAsThieves;i'm speaking for mike_c and pankkake i think 732318;1403714728;ThickAsThieves;and i'm not so sure i'm qualified 732319;1403714738;pankkake;yes, that is is 732320;1403714748;davout;well, then you don't need a NS record 732321;1403714767;davout;you need a plain old A record for seeds that points to the IP of the server managing the seeds list 732322;1403714772;mircea_popescu;dude it's like being on mdma over here 732323;1403714782;mircea_popescu;i derp about my business, suddenly there's this weird booming echo multivoice 732324;1403714782;ThickAsThieves;cool i'll fix it 732325;1403714805;pankkake;it's wrong! 732326;1403714805;mircea_popescu;a second later it comes through they're screaming "goal!1" but that second... 732327;1403714827;pankkake;the "format" for the altcoin client is a DNS reply 732328;1403714828;ThickAsThieves;pankkake you talking to me or mp? 732329;1403714834;davout;mircea_popescu: oh fuck, i'm supporting nigeria 732330;1403714834;ThickAsThieves;ah 732331;1403714834;pankkake;to davout 732332;1403714858;ThickAsThieves;i could not have guessed that DNS would be an interpretive thing... 732333;1403714858;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves he was confirming it for davout 732334;1403714859;mircea_popescu;bah 732335;1403714876;mircea_popescu;ahahaha the interpretive dns dance! round robbin! the nut cracker! 732336;1403714882;davout;pankkake: whaddaya mean 732337;1403714888;mircea_popescu;this should totally be a musical 732338;1403714911;ThickAsThieves;how about i just put BOTH records 732339;1403714913;davout;i feel like i'm going down into a confusion vortex 732340;1403714916;jurov;ThickAsThieves just integrate namecoin. now you'll have two problems! 732341;1403714918;ThickAsThieves;more shares is better! 732342;1403714920;assbot;Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1VE6PXR.txt ) 732343;1403714920;BingoBoingo;!b 9 732344;1403714925;pankkake;seeds. has to be served by the self updating dns server 732345;1403714946;mircea_popescu; ThickAsThieves just integrate namecoin. now you'll have two problems! <<< ahahaha 732346;1403714955;pankkake;well despite knowning the thing I have a hard time following the discussion 732347;1403714966;ThickAsThieves; ThickAsThieves just integrate namecoin. /// actually this is something i do want 732348;1403714981;mircea_popescu;"you have two problems. the government takes one and gives you a cow. now you have three problems." 732349;1403715020;davout;pankkake: you want to resolve subdomains of seeds. ? 732350;1403715050;punkman;davout, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723462 732351;1403715051;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 732352;1403715063;mircea_popescu;punkman re the "no shorter than 5-10 cm above the knee" : does thaat resolve to -5 which is then 5 below the knee ? 732353;1403715082;mircea_popescu;or does it just resolve to "depending on how lanky you are, one inch over your cunt" 732354;1403715097;pankkake;seeds. is also resolved by the NS of seeds. 732355;1403715108;davout;punkman: a i see, you want a dynamic A record for seeds 732356;1403715149;punkman;yeah and other cool features, https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder 732357;1403715149;assbot;sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub 732358;1403715173;ThickAsThieves;ok well at the moment the screenshot is what it is and will remain so until explicitly instructed 732359;1403715209;punkman;ThickAsThieves: maybe change it to seeds NS ns1.therealtaltcoin.org, then go to the other page and point ns1. to mike's IP 732360;1403715217;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.042 = 1.386 BTC [+] 732361;1403715230;mircea_popescu;this didn't work so well did it. 732362;1403715240;ThickAsThieves;i wil not accept a maybe 732363;1403715246;ThickAsThieves;explicit instructions only 732364;1403715246;davout;punkman pankkake if what's needed is load balancing, or failover, multiple A records for the same domain would do just fine 732365;1403715247;mircea_popescu;sensible. 732366;1403715262;mircea_popescu;davout: what's currently the best non-scam mining rig one can buy these days ? << prolly the 3th knc recently delivered 732367;1403715288;pankkake;yes, if you have known nodes running… and I don't believe it is the case 732368;1403715326;punkman;ThickAsThieves: well according to dignork's link, having an IP in NS record is not so valid 732369;1403715336;ThickAsThieves;btw, i do have some .bit domains registered, including bitcoin-assets and therealaltcoin 732370;1403715337;punkman;but I got no fucking clue to be honest 732371;1403715338;davout;mircea_popescu: yeah, i didn't state the question very explicitly, but i was wondering about the price to pay to bring an extra PH/s to the network, something around 1.25mn is what i found 732372;1403715357;mircea_popescu;it seems to be about 1 dollar per gh roughly. 732373;1403715374;mircea_popescu;so 1mn per ph, net of any logistics 732374;1403715382;davout;and electricity 732375;1403715391;mircea_popescu;1.25 prolly reasonable yeah. electricity is logistics :D 732376;1403715393;davout;i guess thats included in "logistics" 732377;1403715400;ThickAsThieves;mike_c see above discussion and lemme know if you need anything changed anytime 732378;1403715450;mircea_popescu;assbot: [NEW]Gambling invest!!!ROI 20 - 200% << lmao 732379;1403715483;davout;to be read as -200% 732380;1403715503;davout;nah, actually i'm an idiot, that's not possible 732381;1403715520;mircea_popescu;lol 732382;1403715524;mircea_popescu;IT SHOULD BE 732383;1403715572;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: i wonder how long before 1PH pays for itself in coin << hash doesn;'t really need to pay for itself in coin tho. 732384;1403715574;punkman;I can't ping seeds.therealaltcoin.org, does it resolve for someone? 732385;1403715577;jurov;not if one pays another 100% for filing a debt claim 732386;1403715587;mircea_popescu;jurov has it 732387;1403715587;davout;punkman: lol 732388;1403715608;mircea_popescu;punkman unknown host. 732389;1403715624;davout;jurov: as in "this guy owes me 100 BTC, here's 100 BTC to get it from him" ? 732390;1403715632;mike_c;ugh. hopefully you didn't "fix" it, i think you had it :) 732391;1403715676;mike_c;davout: I am running a nameserver for seeds.atc 732392;1403715684;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: maybe thatll be on his grave << what should be on his grave is "I thought I knew shit, because I used to be a shithead. Now I know better, but what's the use, I'm already shitlisted." 732393;1403715687;mike_c;clients will query it to find active ATC nodes 732394;1403715706;mike_c;in order for clients to query it, the root domain needs to list my server as a nameserver for seeds.atc 732395;1403715712;mike_c;clear as mud? 732396;1403715726;punkman;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#732075 732397;1403715726;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 732398;1403715734;mike_c;punkman: no reason you should be able to ping it! 732399;1403715745;punkman;no? 732400;1403715754;Apocalyptic; in order for clients to query it, the root domain needs to list my server as a nameserver for seeds.atc // you're sure ? 732401;1403715767;ThickAsThieves;what if i want http://seeds. to point a picture of apple seeds? what record for that? 732402;1403715773;Apocalyptic;I thought it was meant to resolve to IP of nodes 732403;1403715796;mike_c;Apocalyptic: it does resolve to IP of nodes. but how does your computer know who to ask to resolve it. 732404;1403715799;davout;ThickAsThieves: A record for that, on mike_c's server 732405;1403715811;ThickAsThieves;nuts 732406;1403715822;mircea_popescu;!t m s.wol 732407;1403715823;assbot;The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. 732408;1403715828;davout;mike_c: so you're going to resolve s1.seeds.the...org etc ? 732409;1403715828;mircea_popescu;srsly ? 732410;1403715835;mike_c;no, no s1.seeds 732411;1403715844;mircea_popescu;!t m d.bpay 732412;1403715845;assbot;[MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 7D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 30D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC) 732413;1403715848;mircea_popescu;aok 732414;1403715854;ThickAsThieves;mp how come your s.wol is 35 instead of 30, just to fuck with people? 732415;1403715870;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves someone bid 732416;1403715883;davout;mike_c: so what fqdns is your server going to resolve ? 732417;1403715891;ThickAsThieves;? i dont see any Last Price 732418;1403715893;mike_c;seeds.therealaltcoin.org 732419;1403715896;mircea_popescu;and speaking of which, now that mike_c is up he's prolly going to put bitcoin in once he's done destroying altcoin dns 732420;1403715902;mircea_popescu;after which those shares are prolly selling 732421;1403715907;mircea_popescu;so get in if you want to get in. 732422;1403715949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0008285 = 5.7995 BTC [+] 732423;1403715950;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves there isn't a last price yet. 732424;1403715972;mike_c;https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder/blob/master/README 732425;1403715973;assbot;bitcoin-seeder/README at master sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub 732426;1403715978;davout;mike_c: dig A seeds.therealtcoin.org @54.197.241.190 732427;1403715984;davout;->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 49439 732428;1403715992;mike_c;dig -t A 732429;1403715997;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's a small offering? Or maybe people want shares FIRST!!! << it's tiny, 15 btc total. 732430;1403716006;davout;mike_c: why would that change anything ? 732431;1403716012;davout;i'm asking for an A record 732432;1403716062;mike_c;dig -t A seeds.therealaltcoin.org @54.197.241.190 732433;1403716064;punkman;realtcoin 732434;1403716069;punkman;^^ 732435;1403716073;mike_c;flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, 732436;1403716109;davout;punkman: my face, my palm 732437;1403716147;mircea_popescu;wow they're really massacring nigeria. 732438;1403716163;davout;mike_c: yeah works now 732439;1403716166;mircea_popescu;i think someone needs to send argentina team an ugrend proposal 732440;1403716198;davout;lol 732441;1403716210;mike_c;hopefully nobody actually reads the logs. 732442;1403716254;[]bot;Bet placed: 9 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.31299681 BTC. Current weight: 3,557. 732443;1403716269;davout;mike_c: curious as to why i'm getting a servfail when not asking your server directly 732444;1403716272;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: this trader's biggets problem, which he is so obliviously documenting, is he is emotional << funny how that works huh. 732445;1403716289;mircea_popescu;davout take a hint ? :D 732446;1403716329;davout;mircea_popescu: ? 732447;1403716352;mircea_popescu;you know, "why do i get a fail message when im not doing anything" 732448;1403716356;mircea_popescu;"cuz you suck!!1" 732449;1403716371;davout;meh, i get the same message as you 732450;1403716409;davout;also same message from different machine, on different network 732451;1403716440;davout;mike_c: maybe that's related to using an IP directly as the NS field value, i have no fucking clue :D 732452;1403716617;punkman;"It is important to know that NS records are only responsible for defining the names of DNS servers within a zone, i.e. they do not represent IP addresses," 732453;1403716684;mircea_popescu;punkman what's a standard for if not pissing all over it ? 732454;1403716687;mircea_popescu;we're cats! 732455;1403716702;BingoBoingo;;;seen moiety 732456;1403716703;gribble;moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 15 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: 2nd of july i shall have proper intevebs! \o/ 732457;1403716703;punkman;yeah but I first said this 2 hours ago 732458;1403716711;punkman;and now it's not working :P 732459;1403716717;moiety;i here :] 732460;1403716732;mike_c;so it should be seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS -> foo.therealaltcoin.org and then foo.therealaltcoin.org -> 54.x.x.x? 732461;1403716733;mircea_popescu;hi moiety 732462;1403716743;moiety;i had an appointment for sorting everything out income wise, sorry 732463;1403716746;moiety;hello 732464;1403716768;davout;punkman: -assets currently looks like a bunch of medieval doctors putting leeches on a guy with a broken ankle 732465;1403716803;punkman;I'm just glad I'm not a sysadmin 732466;1403716806;mircea_popescu;and it's worth every penny of the admission fee! 732467;1403716883;mircea_popescu;chetty: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/25/want-to-disprove-man-made-climate-change-a-scientist-will-give-you-10000-if-you-can/ << 10k srsly ? it'd better be bitcoin. 732468;1403716883;assbot;Want to Disprove Man-Made Climate Change? A Scientist Will Give You $10,000 if You Can | TheBlaze.com 732469;1403716901;mircea_popescu;in other news, want to disprove tardstalk scam of the week ? nobody will give you 10 bitcents if you can ha-ha! 732470;1403716955;pankkake;I'll give 10000 BTC to the first person to disprove the existence of the Space Elephant 732471;1403716989;mircea_popescu;rithm: ok so firstly, bitcoin bought all of this <<< was it more than a car ? 732472;1403716999;mircea_popescu;pankkake stop being unscientific!11 732473;1403717052;chetty;mircea_popescu, I was amused at the great scientist asking folks to prove a negative :P 732474;1403717077;pankkake;can we have a 20 year bitbet against global warming? 732475;1403717085;mircea_popescu;chetty and then they wonder why i keep saying stupid === poor. 732476;1403717096;mircea_popescu;pankkake if youy put 10k down on it 732477;1403717188;moiety;pankkake: elephants are scared of mice. galactic space mice (http://history.nasa.gov/animals.html) mean you will never find an elephant in space. i think this counts. 732478;1403717207;mircea_popescu;give the girl 10k. 732479;1403717213;[]bot;Bet created: "Amazon stock to close at over $350 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/965/ 732480;1403717241;pankkake;thankfully you didn't say 10k of what :) 732481;1403717266;moiety;i would accept 10k manuls 732482;1403717281;mircea_popescu;;;google 10k manuls 732483;1403717282;gribble;RT-10K :: Manuals :: Support :: Roland: ; Sound Module and Drum Pad Comb... :: RT-10K :: Manuals - Roland ...: ; Roadster HD10K-M 1080 HD DLP Projector - Christie Digital Systems: ; Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines in California - Law Center to ...: ; PENAL CODE CHAPTER 21. SEXUAL OFFENSES: 732507;1403717541;rithm;i love to be tied up and flogged 732508;1403717571;ThickAsThieves;so the Titan coins were loaded like instantly 732509;1403717574;mircea_popescu;/htm/ is such a good directory to have. 732510;1403717577;rithm;so evil nick highlighting discouraged or outright banned? 732511;1403717580;BingoBoingo;;;google big tits rosebudding 732512;1403717581;gribble;Rosebud, Lesbian Punishment - Pornhub.com: ; Get The Big Breasts You've Always Wanted … With A Boob Scarf: ; Jennifer Love Hewitt's Boobs Have Served Her Well - The Frisky: Bet created: "Nasdaq to close at over $4500 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/966/ 732584;1403720137;assbot;BitBet - Nasdaq to close at over $4500 in 2014 :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`997 (100`000 to 1) 732585;1403720402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6136 @ 0.00082822 = 5.082 BTC [-] {2} 732586;1403720463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12414 @ 0.0008261 = 10.2552 BTC [-] {3} 732587;1403720664;BingoBoingo;http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=140327616811443&w=2 732588;1403720665;assbot;'Re: compare memcmp with 0' - MARC 732589;1403720890;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0419997 = 0.84 BTC [-] 732590;1403721012;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.042 = 0.798 BTC [+] 732591;1403721542;davout;pankkake: "Now some guy now wants to decentralize decentralized version control." <<< Oo 732592;1403722176;punkman;http://news.yahoo.com/solar-roadways-210149010.html 732593;1403722178;assbot;Crowdfunding campaign raises $2.2M to build solar roadways - Yahoo News 732594;1403722219;Namworld;Re what I was talking about the other day concerning provably fair systems. To be fair, most casinos do the same thing re providing new server seeds after user's seed. 732595;1403722238;Namworld;So I'll probably do a public campaign concerning all venues. 732596;1403722282;Namworld;So I got some stuff written, concerning logic behind it and proposed change to such systems. 732597;1403722289;Namworld;Here's what I have thus far: http://pastebin.com/bQj4fSht 732598;1403722289;assbot;Provably Fair System - Pastebin.com 732599;1403722330;mircea_popescu;Namworld you need a blog 732600;1403722375;Namworld;I don't have one. Don't think I write often enough to attract any kind of regular audience regardless. 732601;1403722393;punkman;I want to make a nice provably fair baccarat game. Get all those chinese bitcoins. 732602;1403722393;mircea_popescu;1. Client changes the seed after each new server seed, before every bet. He doesn't know server seed, so seed he provides should give a random number. (Painfully tedious, few actually do it, but for those who do, provably fair.) << prolly a bot that does this would be useful. 732603;1403722402;BingoBoingo;http://www.govexec.com/federal-news/fedblog/2014/06/epa-employees-told-stop-pooping-hallway/87223/ 732604;1403722402;assbot;EPA Employees Told to Stop Pooping in the Hallway - Fedblog - News - GovExec.com 732605;1403722415;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082949 = 4.5622 BTC [+] 732606;1403722428;mircea_popescu;Namworld stop being stubborn. if you put up text like that you need a blog. how's someone going to comment on it for instance ? how's someone coming in 1 year know what was already commented ? 732607;1403722449;Namworld;Yes, it should indeed be a requirement to have such an external tool for current venues. 732608;1403722496;Namworld;mircea, I'll probably just post it on the gambling forum where it is relevant and let people pitch in. 732609;1403722508;Namworld;At least there's a large, targeted audience there. 732610;1403722536;mircea_popescu;i guess also 732611;1403722558;mircea_popescu;punkman i never got bacarrat, but you know what might be a good idea ? 732612;1403722563;mircea_popescu;a museum of gambling site 732613;1403722580;mircea_popescu;play all the games that meanwhile died, from ancient egypt and fenicia to chemin-du-fer 732614;1403722599;punkman;not bad 732615;1403722632;mircea_popescu;Namworld "No, you wouldn't be able to notice that the website, across all players, has a much higher house edge than 1% which is unlikely. It's easy to fill with fake "lucky" account to compensate " << you could notice it over your own experience. 732616;1403722644;mircea_popescu;jd for instance allows you to run 0 bet sampling rounds of infinite size. 732617;1403722670;mircea_popescu;or should i say allowed. 732618;1403722751;mircea_popescu;but anywqay, this entire paper is not about server cheating, it's about how "if you're lazy and stupid you might lose". sure. as it should be. let people make proper betting bots with seeding per bet 732619;1403722792;mircea_popescu;and yes jd was correctly implemented. 732620;1403722821;penguirker;New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/25/bitcoin-is-not-a-payment-network/ 732621;1403722862;mircea_popescu;the coinroll "end of the day disclosure" method is also acceptable. it may be open to abuse for low volume sites (based on finding hash collisions, much in the same way mining works) but doesn't seem too practical 732622;1403722915;mircea_popescu;client's last deposit tx is good, and a lot of space in there in the block in case it's needed. 732623;1403722939;mircea_popescu;i still say you should make a blog. 732624;1403722960;Namworld;It doesn't help much if the system is targetting accounts with large balance and stops cheating after a small sample/when the large balance isn't making large bets. 732625;1403722983;mircea_popescu;this is true 732626;1403722990;Namworld;They could steal a few thousands extra BTC on large bets which might not seem too odd until it's too late. 732627;1403723007;Namworld;Would also be costly to attempt to verify by betting. 732628;1403723065;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bitbet-us-scammers-ignore-delivered-bfl-products.114047/ 732629;1403723065;assbot;bitbet.us scammers ignore delivered BFL products | Bitcointa.lk 732630;1403723066;mircea_popescu;lol epic 732631;1403723223;mircea_popescu;Namworld do you see why the jd "show on request" model is slightly stronger for fairness than the "fixed time disclosure" ? 732632;1403723306;mircea_popescu;pankkake "Then there is services like" there are. 732633;1403723353;Namworld;How is it stronger for fairness? Server seed provided prior to client seed. 732634;1403723385;mircea_popescu;let me show you a model. 732635;1403723388;pankkake;I thought about it, and decided "there is" was the correct form, as I am saying "services like this exist" 732636;1403723393;Namworld;Sure 732637;1403723402;pankkake;but maybe I am confused about the grammar 732638;1403723408;mircea_popescu;you are yes. 732639;1403723415;mircea_popescu;Namworld suppose site switcxhes at 1 btc. so : 732640;1403723428;mircea_popescu;server seed is "A". 0.1 btc comes in, is calculated. wins or loses. 732641;1403723434;mircea_popescu;0.2 btc comes in, idem calculated. 732642;1403723452;mircea_popescu;at this point, server is also mining, and knows that hash "B" would also be consistent with the history so far. 732643;1403723465;mircea_popescu;ie, either "A" or "B" would give the 0.1 and 0.2 bets same results. 732644;1403723489;mircea_popescu;1.2 btc bet comes in. server looks at results, A wins, B loses. server picks its hash as B and reconstructs the merkle tree 732645;1403723511;mircea_popescu;now, if you know when the hash will have to be revealed, this is possible 732646;1403723522;mircea_popescu;if hash may be revealed at any random point, this is suddenly problematic 732647;1403723575;Namworld;There's a single server seed for all users for the day... with its hash predisclosed. It would be pretty much impossible to reasonably find another seed that matches the hash... 732648;1403723576;mircea_popescu;the absolutely ideal system, imo, would be a server that used the same secret for ALL PLAYERS and reset it (for all players) at any player's request. but this poses problems for anon players. 732649;1403723579;mircea_popescu;it's a conundrum 732650;1403723594;mircea_popescu;Namworld a you also predisclose the hash ? 732651;1403723604;ThickAsThieves;pankkake why do you lie to us http://www.coindesk.com/intuit-merchants-accept-bitcoin-paybycoin-service/ 732652;1403723604;assbot;Intuit Lets Merchants Accept Bitcoin With New 'PayByCoin' Service 732653;1403723618;Namworld;Yes, there's a list with months of secrets' hashes provided upfront. 732654;1403723628;Namworld;Like JD provides the server's seed hash. 732655;1403723629;ThickAsThieves;(intuit is what most small businesses and more use for acconting in US) 732656;1403723653;mircea_popescu;Namworld a ok nm then, it's quite strong 732657;1403723665;Namworld;Here: https://coinroll.com/files/secrethashes.txt 732658;1403723697;mircea_popescu;"Now some guy now wants" pankkake must proof moar omg 732659;1403723697;Namworld;That and we don't provide a default client seed, we use the blockchain transaction ID of the last deposit. 732660;1403723707;mircea_popescu;Namworld ya that part is very good. 732661;1403723709;Namworld;So by default all players should be covered correctly 732662;1403723729;Namworld;No work to do on the user's part, other than verification. 732663;1403723745;mircea_popescu;Namworld why is that txt not signed ? 732664;1403723784;mircea_popescu;and also it's a fine example of what'd go into the bitcoin-assets registrar of deeds. 732665;1403723788;mircea_popescu;was someone working on that ? 732666;1403723812;pankkake;this is why I usually don't publish after writing, but hey… 732667;1403723848;ThickAsThieves;The BA Registrar & Brokerage House & Auto Parts 732668;1403723857;mircea_popescu;lol 732669;1403723858;Namworld;Not sure, would probably be best for list to be signed. 732670;1403723866;Namworld;Jurov would have to look into that. 732671;1403723879;mircea_popescu;Namworld if you want i can sign it for you. then whoever wants to say you changed it will also have to say i signed a new version. 732672;1403723957;Namworld;If you're willing to do so, it would be great. Don't forget to include date. 732673;1403724010;mircea_popescu;alrighty. 732674;1403724012;dignork;mircea_popescu: waste some money - http://www.proofofexistence.com/about 732675;1403724012;assbot;Proof of Existence 732676;1403724015;Namworld;I trust jurov not to lose/have list of secrets compromised. Although list/signatures might need to be updated if Coinroll is sold again to another party or list is compromised. 732677;1403724030;mircea_popescu;dignork youll have to search for that term :D 732678;1403724064;Namworld;A date with signatures shows when it was acknowledged to be changed. Such that none can claim a specific change occured prior to that date. 732679;1403724075;Namworld;Maybe dooglus would be willing to sign the list too. 732680;1403724093;Namworld;2 strong parties to sign, along with jurov as the owner. 732681;1403724103;Namworld;Should be sufficient. 732682;1403724167;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.0 732683;1403724168;assbot;Why Do You Invest? 732684;1403724233;dignork;mircea_popescu: irony detector fails me today, the link was about provable timestamping, for you gpg sig on Namworld text 732685;1403724280;mircea_popescu;dignork http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=proofofexistence 732686;1403724281;assbot;3 results for 'proofofexistence' - #bitcoin-assets search 732687;1403724553;mircea_popescu;Namworld http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/coinrolltxt.asc 732688;1403724602;mircea_popescu;pankkake it's not you is it ? 732689;1403724616;pankkake;no, it's the infamous crumbs 732690;1403724638;Namworld;Thank you very much. 732691;1403724681;Namworld;I'll ask dooglus if he can do the same. Jurov or wao can publish both signed text files on the verification page. 732692;1403724698;mircea_popescu;sure. 732693;1403724729;[]bot;Bet created: "Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer to be Yahoo CEO no more" http://bitbet.us/bet/967/ 732694;1403724731;mircea_popescu;what's crumbs infamous for again ? 732695;1403724746;pankkake;trolling Legitimate Bitcoin Companies 732696;1403724840;mircea_popescu;lol k 732697;1403724855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04747994 = 0.7122 BTC [-] {2} 732698;1403724913;mircea_popescu;"A more formalized version of this should be linked/appended to every single IPO offering on the forums as a cautionary tale. " 732699;1403724922;mircea_popescu;yeah, totally, let's ban mpoe-pr for doing it :D 732700;1403724927;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-starts-deploying-cloud-mining-customers-waiting-monarchs/ 732701;1403724967;mircea_popescu;oggnasty : "Valuing these offerings over time in BTC is idiotic..." 732702;1403724970;mircea_popescu;herpderp. 732703;1403725006;mircea_popescu;"You ask why people invest... Let me answer that for you as I have decades of experience providing analysis to investors... " 732704;1403725008;mircea_popescu;o brother. 732705;1403725080;mircea_popescu;o wait. I'm lambchop ?! 732706;1403725089;pankkake;so altcoin hashrate is basically one KnC Neptune 732707;1403725108;mircea_popescu;3th or so no ? 732708;1403725113;pankkake;yes 732709;1403725160;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082742 = 4.3026 BTC [-] 732710;1403725180;mircea_popescu;yeah. like 6k usd total investment. 732711;1403725199;mircea_popescu;or about 10 btc. while a block is worth about 5k-10 satoshi 732712;1403725212;mircea_popescu;so you'd have to find 100k blocks or thereabouts to break even 732713;1403725228;mircea_popescu;(did i fuck up my math ?) 732714;1403725327;mircea_popescu;pankkake http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-101734 fixed link nao can has pingback 732715;1403725328;assbot;Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 732716;1403725478;mircea_popescu;"Bitcoin with an infinite but reasonable inflation would not be so different." 732717;1403725481;mircea_popescu;what the fuck does that mean 732718;1403725509;pankkake;I agree the formulation isn't ideal. I mean, what if block reward was 1 BTC forever 732719;1403725551;mircea_popescu;but you're right, the only current business of pseudo-bitcoin businesses a la coinbase, bitpay etc is that they're benefiting from a legal inefficiency, where exchanges that admit it are being fucked actively, whereas exchangesd that pretend to be paymernt processors aren't fucked quite as bad quite as yet. 732720;1403725619;mircea_popescu;pankkake that is matematically equivalent to "each block is its own sort of halving" 732721;1403725640;mircea_popescu;in theory it should make no difference. 732722;1403725647;pankkake;yes. but even yearly fixed inflation wouldn't be that bad imho 732723;1403725654;mircea_popescu;anyway, i like your newfound activity. 732724;1403725686;mircea_popescu;well imho based on what ? 732725;1403725708;mircea_popescu;This blog is the inalienable property of the greatest mind the universe ever had, and is ever going to have. Its contents are licensed under a Creative Commons License. 732726;1403725709;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04200184 = 0.588 BTC [-] {2} 732727;1403725710;mircea_popescu;I encourage you to visit the links: the profiles section will help you in your daily worshiping of myself, while the other sections will allow you to experience the productions of some other great minds. However, you will come to the inevitable conclusion that Im better than all of them combined. 732728;1403725711;mircea_popescu;hahaha srsly ?> 732729;1403725749;pankkake;I think predictable money supply is the most interesting property 732730;1403725771;pankkake;of course, Bernankoin has somewhat predictable money supply and is worthless by design 732731;1403725781;mircea_popescu;actually i think something else is the most interesting property, and sorta too lazyto write blogpost 732732;1403726047;mircea_popescu;actually looking at http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ ... 60 posts past two weeks ? 732733;1403726048;assbot;Assets Assimilated 732734;1403726062;mircea_popescu;quite the vibrant little community we got here. there's even a manul in a treehouse! 732735;1403726185;pankkake;and many new blogs 732736;1403726996;mircea_popescu;like 3 posts / head i tcomes to 732737;1403727295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.0478897 = 1.6761 BTC [+] {2} 732738;1403727539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00082568 = 43.761 BTC [-] {4} 732739;1403727661;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00082405 = 14.5857 BTC [-] {2} 732740;1403727785;kakobrekla;;;bc,stats 732741;1403727786;gribble;Current Blocks: 307808 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 639 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16689850735.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.97216 732742;1403728027;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.0478 = 1.0038 BTC [-] 732743;1403728393;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0478 = 0.717 BTC [-] 732744;1403728698;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0008229 = 13.9893 BTC [-] {2} 732745;1403729679;mthreat;http://bakerlaw.com/alerts/bitcoin-investment-vehicles-beware-the-sec-is-watching 732746;1403729680;assbot;Bitcoin Investment Vehicles Beware The SEC is Watching | BakerHostetler 732747;1403729979;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0008293 = 11.3614 BTC [+] {2} 732748;1403730133;mircea_popescu;http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/06/19/daniellemaye-30789/images/full/05.jpg 732749;1403730138;mircea_popescu;dem shoes 732750;1403730248;mircea_popescu;mthreat all this "we gotta say something and we have no idea what to say so here's a collection of copypasted material with filler" shit... 732751;1403730290;mircea_popescu;fiat people : stop trying to pretend bitcoin is fiat. bitcoin is not fiat. more importantly, your expiration date is in the past. 732752;1403730324;rithm;evoorhees according to that article left 5100BTC positive and $50,000 usd negative in fines 732753;1403730347;rithm;which sounds like a terribll terribly punitive slap on the wrist 732754;1403730377;rithm;but yeah that regurgitated 732755;1403730490;mircea_popescu;rithm the misguided pretense as to jurisdiction is starting to get on my nerves. sec doesn't actually make it, but all sorts of dr foreskin lapdogs fall over each other to "create consensus" 732756;1403730558;rithm;if you can tell them to fuck off, and trendon can lie to them and destroy evidence, and erik can keep all his bitcoins and fay a minor usd fine..... 732757;1403730572;rithm;nm i decided not to finish that sentence 732758;1403730589;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00083085 = 6.4806 BTC [+] 732759;1403730619;rithm;also aparently the IRS only keep backup tapes for 6 months 732760;1403730657;mircea_popescu;well that depends. if it suits them, they only keep them for 6 months. 732761;1403730667;rithm;that's what i learned 732762;1403730685;mircea_popescu;otherwise, you're "legally required" to keep the records for... ever. 732763;1403730711;rithm;why have i been filing these taxes and keeping these papers for so long if I can just say "i dunno" 732764;1403730718;mircea_popescu;i so wouldlike to see someone grow some fucking balls and argue in court that they're not hold to do anything the irs wants because well... the irs doesn't follow the law. 732765;1403730789;ThickAsThieves;"As we have capacity available and as we gain more capacity, we will be activating more people in Cloud Mining. As we ship out hardware and disable the people with Cloud Mining after they have their hardware shipped, we will allocate that capacity to the next people in line. " 732766;1403730797;ThickAsThieves;BFL, the hits keep coming 732767;1403730826;ThickAsThieves;they are giving people rented hash shares instead of shipping their hardware 732768;1403730831;ThickAsThieves;pretty awesome stuff 732769;1403730835;mircea_popescu;sure. 732770;1403730850;mircea_popescu;please keep buying shit at par, we'll give you rented hashes for 5% six months later 732771;1403730854;mircea_popescu;the gigavps method 732772;1403730881;mircea_popescu;meanwhile the sec is too fucking snotty to actually get to work at strangling these idiots. 732773;1403731122;rithm;mircea_popescu, even better rent the burn-in period as "cloud hashing" 732774;1403731131;rithm;it's really all the same 732775;1403731174;mircea_popescu;!up felipelalli 732776;1403731176;mircea_popescu;"burn-in" lol 732777;1403731181;rithm;basically you could operate a pool of anonymous miners that constantly roll-over and get shipped to customers 732778;1403731191;rithm;as part of a lrger operation 732779;1403731260;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00083085 = 2.7418 BTC [+] 732780;1403731377;ThickAsThieves;'How much of a threat is something like Bitcoin?' "We settle and pay out in 121 currencies ... once bitcoin is regulated ... why wouldn't we use bitcoin ... if it's regulated as a currency" ~ Western Union CEO 732781;1403731499;mircea_popescu;truth is bitcoin is exactly going to kill them. western union has a market made out of illiterate peasants and assimilated non-persons, which is not really worth serving per se, 732782;1403731519;mircea_popescu;and a market of "hackers" let's say, ie, the sons and daughters of said iliterate peasants. who will just move to bitcoin. 732783;1403731530;ThickAsThieves;Aereo lost huh 732784;1403731546;pankkake;WU is used for many scams, so they are truly in competition with Bitcoin 732785;1403731566;ThickAsThieves;"The 17 most important things Google announced at I/O" lol 732786;1403731609;rithm;i've seen WU operate in poor countries 732787;1403731612;rithm;it's a monopoly 732788;1403731642;rithm;i should say 3 732789;1403731645;mthreat;it's kinda like western union saying they won't use the internet until it's regulated 732790;1403731650;rithm;"countries" sounds like a lot 732791;1403731666;rithm;but i've seen them in mexico, the vigin islands, and western samoa 732792;1403731673;rithm;there's a WU on every block 732793;1403731695;pankkake;well that's what they're selling. send money, everywhere 732794;1403731715;pankkake;perhaps the real competitor is localbitcoins 732795;1403732082;ThickAsThieves;"There are currently no Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) governing bitcoin, increasing the risk there could be inconsistencies in the financial reporting of bitcoin transactions. The lack of accounting rules means the coin will be accounted and reported using the most appropriate standards that exist making it challenging to compare GAAP between different companies 732796;1403732082;ThickAsThieves;transacting in bitcoin. Investors should carefully watch and judge the reporting to make sure they understand, and agree, with management’s view." Moodys 732797;1403732207;ThickAsThieves;Name of the Day: Perianne Boring, of Boring & Company 732798;1403733109;mircea_popescu;somebody failed to read up on the nz0 732799;1403733111;mircea_popescu;who was it ? 732800;1403733151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00082231 = 6.2496 BTC [-] 732801;1403733160;bitcoinpete;pankkake davout do either of you boys know anyone at the "house of bitcoin" in paris? 732802;1403733174;pankkake;I think davout does 732803;1403733184;mircea_popescu;No results found for "There are currently no Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) governing bitcoin". 732804;1403733190;mircea_popescu;someone gotta up their googlefu 732805;1403733195;bitcoinpete;pankkake: heh cool 732806;1403733234;mircea_popescu;http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/offtopic-abandoning-bitstamp/ < pankkake wrong link ? 732807;1403733235;assbot;Page not found | Bitcoin Trading Signals 732808;1403733241;ThickAsThieves;mp the quote was not from PR 732809;1403733253;ThickAsThieves;internal data sheet 732810;1403733269;mircea_popescu;"The poorly thought trust system also highly favor said organization" favors. cause singular. 732811;1403733269;pankkake;I think he removed the post 732812;1403733270;bitcoinpete;a "bitcoiner" i know from calgary is in paris atm and headed to the house of bitcoin 732813;1403733283;bitcoinpete;apparently they knew yours truly from twitter and -assets 732814;1403733309;bitcoinpete;was curious if any of the house of bitcoiners were here 732815;1403733329;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves internal to whom ? 732816;1403733383;ThickAsThieves;"Sector Comment" looks like an internal newsletter or somesuch 732817;1403733417;ThickAsThieves;it has a "Rate this Research" button on the bottom, so i'm guessing itll be on their website somewhere 732818;1403733426;mircea_popescu;right but i mean of whom or what or in general, who needs to be hit over the head with the observation that the bitcoin space has had a gaap for years and they're being ignorant. 732819;1403733431;ThickAsThieves;ah 732820;1403733467;mircea_popescu;just because scammers don't use gaap in fiat too doesn't give ignoramuses aspiring to comment the right to pretend gaap doesn't exist, or its use isn't legally mandatory. 732821;1403733481;ThickAsThieves;it's by Jason Cuomo, Senior Accounting Analyst & Jeffrey Berg, Senior Vice President 732822;1403733540;ThickAsThieves;Production Associate, Srinivasan Raghavan 732823;1403733541;mircea_popescu;there's about 50 diff lawyers of that name. anyway. 732824;1403733550;mircea_popescu;is this some sort of webcast ? 732825;1403733553;ThickAsThieves;i have ph# if you really want it 732826;1403733563;ThickAsThieves;no it's pdf from a friend that knows a guy at Moodys 732827;1403733566;mircea_popescu;finding the source link to a quote has never been this difficult 732828;1403733584;mircea_popescu;a. well then i guess friend can see the log or w/e. 732829;1403733587;ThickAsThieves;Report Number: 167942 732830;1403733624;thestringpuller;girls just wanna have fuuuun 732831;1403733627;mircea_popescu;lol 732832;1403733638;mircea_popescu;anyway this aereo thing is going to cause problems in the future. 732833;1403733658;mircea_popescu;Why should any of these technological differences matter? Breyer wrote. They concern the behind-the-scenes way in which Aereo delivers television programming to its viewers screens. They do not render Aereos commercial objective any different from that of cable companies. 732834;1403733676;mircea_popescu;"we decided not to go by what things are, but by what things seem to us" is nothing but an open invitation to be scammed. 732835;1403733727;mircea_popescu;It is not the role of this court to identify and plug loopholes, Scalia wrote. It is the role of good lawyers to identify and exploit them, and the role of Congress to eliminate them if it wishes. << i could see scalia as bitcoin chief justice. 732836;1403733756;ThickAsThieves;he's said some crazy shit though 732837;1403733772;mircea_popescu;like ? 732838;1403733780;justusranvier;It is the role of that court to present the peasants with the illusion of fair play and the rule of law so they don't revolt. They aren't doing a very good job. 732839;1403733783;ThickAsThieves;i forget exactly, we've discussed it here i think 732840;1403733804;ThickAsThieves;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=scalia 732841;1403733805;assbot;14 results for 'scalia' - #bitcoin-assets search 732842;1403733851;mircea_popescu;justusranvier i dunno. as a compulsive reader of supreme court caselaw up until about the 70s i must say it was pretty good literature. 732843;1403733878;justusranvier;They used to do a much better job of maintaining the illusion. 732844;1403733889;mircea_popescu;i guess that argument is always available. 732845;1403733896;mircea_popescu;anyway, bbl! 732846;1403733962;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: For when you get back: http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm 732847;1403734004;justusranvier;Try not to let the atrocious web design detract from the content. 732848;1403734056;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 83(Y):17(N) by coin, 76(Y):24(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 48,020. 732849;1403734271;davout;bitcoinpete: yeah, i know the guys and the place 732850;1403734289;davout;wai 732851;1403734363;moiety;someone tell me again why i run a site that attracts utter retardation on a frequent basis 732852;1403734371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7719 @ 0.00082254 = 6.3492 BTC [+] 732853;1403734391;bitcoinpete;davout seems they follow the action on -assets and know who i am, much to the surprise of a developer i know visiting paris 732854;1403734395;dub;wat is house of bitcoin? 732855;1403734438;bitcoinpete;it's a bit surprising to me too because most of those community-minded types wouldn't (and couldn't) touch -assets with a 10 ft stick 732856;1403734461;davout;dub: it's like a coworking space/atm spot/meetup place 732857;1403734464;bitcoinpete;dub my guess is an embassy/work space/community 732858;1403734469;bitcoinpete;right 732859;1403734479;dub;sounds like it should contain wax statues of scammers and retards 732860;1403734485;bitcoinpete;there's one in new york, tel aviv, montreal, etc 732861;1403734522;bitcoinpete;dub sorta 732862;1403734536;bitcoinpete;they should really just be here instead 732863;1403734536;davout;the guys are also behind the french "association bitcoin" 732864;1403734555;bitcoinpete;and no doubt they're pushing for merchant adoption. and regulation 732865;1403734603;dub;is that an organisation for the purpose of immediately surrendering to anything that threatens crypto 732866;1403734616;davout;dub: that sounds like redditspeak 732867;1403734840;dub;give a troll a break, trying to fill my quota here 732868;1403735050;mircea_popescu;justusranvier lol that's quickly becoming one of the most loved b-a links 732869;1403735085;mircea_popescu;moiety cause you're new ? 732870;1403735169;pankkake;I googled "Bitcoin is not a payment network" and guess who I end up finding… MPOE-PR 732871;1403735182;mircea_popescu;surprise surprise 732872;1403735187;mircea_popescu;(but yes I said it first) 732873;1403735217;mircea_popescu; is that an organisation for the purpose of immediately surrendering to anything that threatens crypto << don't knock it, it's a splendid strategy. 732874;1403735359;davout;"(but yes I said it first)" <<< i think i said that in 2010 ;) 732875;1403735370;mircea_popescu;but since pankkake got me re-reading old things, yea, i like this fluffypony bit : 732876;1403735372;mircea_popescu;"That last point probably needs some elaboration. You see, #bitcoin-assets makes a distinction between being wrong and being stupid. If you are wrong about something the implication is (and should be) that you are self-aware enough to explain your reasoning well enough that one of three outcomes occur: those in conversation either come round to your point of view; or they agree that you have a valid l 732877;1403735372;mircea_popescu;ine of reasoning and are entitled to hold that viewpoint; or your self-awareness and general level of intelligence allows you to change your opinion or view. Thus, being wrong (or having to defend your view) is encouraged!" 732878;1403735387;mircea_popescu;davout yeah but yours doesn't count because it was before mine! 732879;1403735465;mircea_popescu;http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/9365/725/avatar92.jpg?1394547263 << tat avatar ? 732880;1403735518;davout;mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpusbL62eB4&feature=kp 732881;1403735518;assbot;Orlando's - YouTube 732882;1403735540;mircea_popescu;btw, nigeria lost 732883;1403735552;davout;yo, playing france on the 30th 732884;1403735579;mircea_popescu;ahahaha 732885;1403735586;davout;france vs. ecuador was such a fucking pain to watch 732886;1403735594;mircea_popescu;are they playing the women's french team ? 732887;1403735664;bitcoinpete;pankkake: are you on twitter? 732888;1403735670;pankkake;no 732889;1403735685;bitcoinpete;a ok 732890;1403735691;mircea_popescu;he threatened to kill trayvon martin 732891;1403735695;mircea_popescu;and got suspended 732892;1403735705;bitcoinpete;lol 732893;1403735738;bitcoinpete;just wanted to see if i could attribute your articles there 732894;1403735759;mircea_popescu;he has a blog 732895;1403735761;pankkake;funny though, friends randomly met some guy that knew me from what.cd, I have achieved mild internet celebrity 732896;1403735772;bitcoinpete;i doubt @headfucking is taken 732897;1403735781;bitcoinpete;ok confirmed now, it's free 732898;1403735783;davout;or takeable i'd assume 732899;1403735811;pankkake;I *had* a Twitter account but was never really active, and closed it years ago 732900;1403735819;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: agreed. blog > twitter 732901;1403735826;davout;hm, i guess @fuck is taken, so tis possibru 732902;1403735889;mircea_popescu;https://twitter.com/fuckme 732903;1403735890;assbot;The Watcher (fuckme) auf Twitter 732904;1403735895;mircea_popescu;dead since 2011 732905;1403735901;mircea_popescu;roughly speaking the year twitter peaked. 732906;1403735939;bitcoinpete;pretty much 732907;1403735948;bitcoinpete;2010 seemed to be the coming out party 732908;1403735956;bitcoinpete;2011 was probably tops 732909;1403735970;bitcoinpete;and here we are, 3 years on. starting new blogs 732910;1403736021;pankkake;I had a blog when it was trendy to have one 732911;1403736043;bitcoinpete;lol donations! http://www.coindesk.com/adopt-node-project-aims-bolster-bitcoin-network-security/ 732912;1403736043;assbot;'Adopt a Node' Project Aims to Bolster Bitcoin Network Security 732913;1403736057;bitcoinpete;pankkake: and when was this? 732914;1403736060;moiety;i'm learning quick though mircea_popescu :] 732915;1403736081;mircea_popescu;:p remember kitten, one of the first things i said to you was wtf you doing with the doge 732916;1403736083;pankkake;my first post is probably 2004 732917;1403736101;moiety;do yous remember the failed attampt at a bitcoin facebook? 732918;1403736110;davout;moiety: lol no, shoot 732919;1403736131;moiety;mircea_popescu: a question I have since repeated tomyself so many times. 732920;1403736171;moiety;davout, it was exactly the same as facebook but orange and had bitcoin symbols everywhere. i think it failed so badly, theytried to sell it and couldn't even pan it off 732921;1403736173;pankkake;wait I've been running a node for years, can I get paid?! 732922;1403736184;pankkake;or is it only funding nodes ran by the same guy (but decentralization!) 732923;1403736203;bitcoinpete;pankkake: running nodes, writing for your blog, everything should get you paid! 732924;1403736211;pankkake;actually, first post: September 2003 732925;1403736216;bitcoinpete;solid 732926;1403736229;mircea_popescu;on reading http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/f-derp-short-risky-bitcoin-startups/2014/06/25 towards where it says "the log of the original discussion", am i the only one for whom that link comes as some sort of doge thing rather than a log linkj ? 732927;1403736232;assbot;F.DERP, A New Bitcoin Short-Only Hedge Fund Targeting Major Bitcoin Startups 732928;1403736236;mircea_popescu;somethign weird going on with overlays in there 732929;1403736263;mircea_popescu;pankkake can you believe the braindamage ? 732930;1403736334;TheNewDeal;ok I have a stupid question. What happens if I have two vending machines that sit side by side and both accept bitcoin. Will people have to wait for 6 confirmations to receive goods, or is there some other way to receive their bitcoin safely? 732931;1403736339;pankkake;link is ok, thank god for noscript/requestpolicy/etc 732932;1403736364;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal at the size of your purchase you can prollylet them go on one confirm. who's gonna dblspend for a can of coke 732933;1403736378;TheNewDeal;friggin candy addicts 732934;1403736381;pankkake;do you think they will double spend to buy cheap food? in a physical location? 732935;1403736390;mircea_popescu;get out. they gotta be physically there too, it's not worth it 732936;1403736429;mircea_popescu;you got a better deal with this than with them putting in us quarters anyway. 732937;1403736449;TheNewDeal;ok what happens if I have a laundromat and the washer accept bitcoin. Someone finds out they can just come and get two loads for the price of 1, dry 2 loads for the price of 1, etc 732938;1403736459;mircea_popescu;ya right,. 732939;1403736469;justusranvier;re: getting paid to operate nodes: http://sourceforce.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/32467926/ 732940;1403736469;assbot;sourceforce.net 732941;1403736475;mircea_popescu;someone doing that much hash doesn't need your puny 5kw tumble drier 732942;1403736482;mircea_popescu;they got their very own 12 MW thing 732943;1403736485;TheNewDeal;do you need to hash at all? 732944;1403736489;mircea_popescu;yes. 732945;1403736496;TheNewDeal;I thought you could just send 2 transactions before a block is mined 732946;1403736504;mircea_popescu;so you'd see the other one first ? 732947;1403736526;TheNewDeal;doesnt propagation take on the scale of minutes? 732948;1403736533;mircea_popescu;6 confirms (as opposed to 1 confirm) only matters if they are actively mining and attacking the chain 732949;1403736548;mircea_popescu;1 confirm (as opposed to 0 confirms) helps if they try to isolate you in the convey txn graph 732950;1403736559;mircea_popescu;but this you can fight by keeping good peers. 732951;1403736588;pankkake;nodes shouldn't propagate the doublespent tx if they have the first, but of course it's not 100% reliable 732952;1403736613;mircea_popescu;it's about 96% reliable atm i think 732953;1403736620;TheNewDeal;couldn't any derp go to blockchain tho? 732954;1403736638;TheNewDeal;just use the doublespend feature 732955;1403736652;pankkake;you mean bitundo? 732956;1403736655;mircea_popescu;it';s not really all that trivial. 732957;1403736680;mircea_popescu;nobody's doublespending your .85 bitcent stale sandwich 732958;1403736689;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0163868 = 0.8193 BTC [+] {2} 732959;1403736693;TheNewDeal;more concerned about the laundry :D 732960;1403736694;davout;am i the only one to think it's actually stupid to not relay double spends ? 732961;1403736699;mike_c;this was explored exhaustively with satoshi dice. some serious gymnastics pulled it off with trivial amounts, and SD then reacted and closed that loophole as well. 732962;1403736713;pankkake;davout: I've read some interesting debates but I don't remember them 732963;1403736715;TheNewDeal;can I get a linky to their solution? 732964;1403736718;mircea_popescu;yeah, what mike_c said. 732965;1403736746;mircea_popescu;davout not really much diff. sort-of poisons you as it were. 732966;1403736754;moiety;davout: I can't find any screens of it. here's the logo https://bitcointa.lk/data/avatars/m/78/78316.jpg?1393513983 Bitcoin Socially it was called. 732967;1403736763;mike_c;the double spend had to do with making the SD tx ugly (lots of inputs), and double-spending with a fee. SD just started using fees and problem went away iirc. 732968;1403736792;davout;mircea_popescu: "sort-of poisons you as it were." <<< does not parse 732969;1403736810;pankkake;iirc the payment protocol (I know, right) can make propagating the transaction the responsibility of the merchant 732970;1403736822;mircea_popescu;davout type 1 (pick one tx, relay that) "poisons" the nodes that got the dblspend. type 2 (relay all) doesn't. 732971;1403736841;mircea_popescu;imo type 1 behaviour is better 732972;1403736872;mircea_popescu;but they don't make that much difference 732973;1403736877;davout;pankkake mircea_popescu i tend to think it's better to transparently relay both txes, so that they're much easier to detect if you care about them 732974;1403736896;mircea_popescu;well yeah. conversely, type 1 makes it obvious which nodes get poisoned 732975;1403736904;mircea_popescu;would you rather see the bad tx or the "bad" nodes ? 732976;1403736947;davout;i think it's easier to handle an obvious double spend than to keep track of 'good' vs. 'evil' nodes 732977;1403736949;mircea_popescu;seeing how blacklisting is still a thing, consensus kinda favoured current behaviour for good game theoretic reasons 732978;1403736954;pankkake;https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3354 732979;1403736956;assbot;Relay first-double-spend transactions by gavinandresen Pull Request #3354 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub 732980;1403736961;mircea_popescu;it was argued this isn't so smart. but anyway 732981;1403737105;Naphex;anyone can recommend a easy tool to sign multi-sig transactions ? 732982;1403737113;Naphex;to pass to a noob to sign his stuff 732983;1403737125;mircea_popescu;anyway, node behaviour is going to be the major topic of 2015 i suspect. 732984;1403737158;mircea_popescu;they have no incentive (perhaps the best candidate for a satoshi oversight is not putting any incentive for tx relay at all) to behave properly and a lot of different types of misbehaviours necessarily include themn 732985;1403737160;TheNewDeal;why so 732986;1403737228;davout;mircea_popescu: "it was argued this isn't so smart." <<< i'd be interested in reading the argument 732987;1403737272;mircea_popescu;davout you're mostly rehashing it right now ? 732988;1403737283;mircea_popescu;anyway, salmon's here. bbl #2! 732989;1403737379;davout;mircea_popescu: thinking about it, i'm usually not very fond of arguments that nodes should behave a particular way, simply interested in the case against transparently relaying all legal txes, even if they are double spends 732990;1403737520;TheNewDeal;well what happens to a node that has a transaction and receives information about a double spend of that transaction? 732991;1403737560;mike_c;you mean what happens when a block is orphaned? 732992;1403737577;TheNewDeal;hmmm 732993;1403737594;TheNewDeal;i just started reading about this statoshi client today so forgive my ignorance http://coinchomp.com/2014/05/07/announcing-statoshi-realtime-bitcoin-node-statistics/ 732994;1403737595;assbot;Announcing Statoshi: Realtime Bitcoin Node Statistics - CoinChomp 732995;1403737611;davout;TheNewDeal: you don't double spend a transaction, you double spend an output, but other than that, nothing really until one of them gets into a mined block, more information can't really hurt 732996;1403737639;TheNewDeal;unless of course you're receiving an immediate service 732997;1403737673;TheNewDeal;isn't there something about nodes being banned for like 24 hours for bad behavior? 732998;1403737759;TheNewDeal;I'm just thinking in terms of my vending machine example 732999;1403737780;TheNewDeal;might be in full retard mode 733000;1403737872;mthreat;anyone loaded the blockchain into a graph database like neo4j? google released another graph database today, https://github.com/google/cayley 733001;1403737872;assbot;google/cayley GitHub 733002;1403737905;davout;mthreat: i know a guy that did if you're interdasted 733003;1403737935;bitcoinpete;on the bitbettery: http://trilema.com/2014/the-results-of-the-world-cup-experiment/#comment-101741 nao with fickst avatar! 733004;1403737936;assbot;The results of the World Cup experiment. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 733005;1403737951;davout;TheNewDeal: i think what you're referring to is nodes banning some of their peers, you don't really ban nodes from the network 733006;1403737970;TheNewDeal;yes indeed 733007;1403738014;mthreat;davout: ya i'm kind of interested - any interesting results? 733008;1403738015;TheNewDeal;wasn't sure if it was considered bad behavior to propagate a double spent output 733009;1403738021;dignork;Naphex: if it's 2-3 multisig, check bitrated.com, it allows to use online generated keys, or just use pubkeys 733010;1403738038;davout;TheNewDeal: if you give some low value thing in exchange for a zero-conf tx, you might find it useful to immediately get the information that someone is attempting a double spend, rather than having the info cock-blocked 733011;1403738069;davout;mthreat: i didn't really dig, what kind of results are you after ? 733012;1403738085;Naphex;dignork: nah something custom, just sign a multisig with a privkey 733013;1403738098;mthreat;davout: nothing specific.. just seems like there could be some interesting stuff, watching the flow of coins 733014;1403738131;dignork;Naphex: https://github.com/spesmilo/sx then 733015;1403738131;assbot;spesmilo/sx GitHub 733016;1403738140;davout;mthreat: have you read the paper from adi shamir and dorit ron? 733017;1403738146;mthreat;davout: yeah 733018;1403738160;Naphex;the yeah i know sx, but needed something to give to a noob. who won;t be able to command line it:P 733019;1403738163;bitcoinpete;;;later tell mircea_popescu which trilema article featured this dood ? seem to recall seeing mr. wonderful there at some point http://www.businessinsider.com/chen-guangbiao-lunch-cash-giveaway-2014-6 733020;1403738164;assbot;Chen Guangbiao Lunch Cash Giveaway - Business Insider 733021;1403738164;gribble;The operation succeeded. 733022;1403738169;Naphex;but i'll probably write something simple to sign it 733023;1403738211;davout;mthreat: so you know as much as i do ;) i'll put you in touch with the guy that did it if you want to implement sthg on your side 733024;1403738240;mthreat;davout: ah.. no that's ok.. thanks 733025;1403738272;davout;Naphex: you apparently haven't learned the "don't give people bitcoins if they ain't educated enough to handle them themselves" lesson heh? 733026;1403738425;Naphex;davout: just need em to sign a transaction once in a while 733027;1403738482;thestringpuller;davout: hah. but if those people make us look better. 733028;1403738685;davout;Naphex: maybe an idea would be for them to simply use the qt built-in console rather than a full-fledged terminal? 733029;1403738740;Naphex;davout: yep, but you need to make a json array with the redeemScript, inputs and script-pubkey 733030;1403738748;Naphex;which requires quite some manual work 733031;1403738755;Naphex;would probably be easier with bash and terminal 733032;1403738767;Naphex;then with current bitcoin-cli multisig 733033;1403738775;dignork;Naphex: you can show them full json on site/send by email w/e 733034;1403738819;Naphex;yeah - will probably just write some simple tool 733035;1403738826;Naphex;put raw transaction in, + privkey sign it 733036;1403738832;Naphex;i create transaction and just pass it 733037;1403738947;Naphex;probably even simplify and use lotsa scrypt rounds and use a password to gen priv key 733038;1403738952;Naphex;then they can just sign with password 733039;1403739017;dignork;Naphex: look at bitrated.com, they did it properly, and their code is on github 733040;1403739076;dignork;actually they - shesek, you can talk to him 733041;1403739094;Naphex;its no problem, was just looking for a already made tool 733042;1403739143;dignork;Naphex: there is also http://ms-brainwallet.org/ , but it's horribly wrong 733043;1403739144;assbot;Multi-Signature Brainwallet - JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Address Generator 733044;1403739172;Naphex;dignork: thx, haven't seen this one before 733045;1403739186;Naphex;only the outcast one which looked to only work with its own privkeys 733046;1403739189;Naphex;dunno why the hell 733047;1403739223;Naphex;dignork: lol, ms-brainwallet doesn't look right needing both keys :) 733048;1403739235;dignork;yeah, braindead 733049;1403739243;dignork;it was a POC code I assume 733050;1403739256;Naphex;probably 733051;1403739282;Naphex;but kinda fits, what i was looking for is something where you input transaction, signed & composed by person A 733052;1403739296;Naphex;and person B can just sign it providing redemption + privkey 733053;1403739312;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00082446 = 1.484 BTC [+] 733054;1403739313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.04765432 = 1.7632 BTC [+] {3} 733055;1403739314;dignork;yeah, but it expects two privkeys :) 733056;1403739321;Naphex;and the raw transaction is read only :P 733057;1403739373;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.0478 = 2.151 BTC [+] 733058;1403739556;Naphex;bitcoinjs looks to have multisig support 733059;1403739569;Naphex;maybe i can just roll something quick in js and leave it at that 733060;1403739598;dignork;Naphex: dealing with noobs, worst question is: how do I get a pubkey 733061;1403739618;mike_c;<+Naphex> maybe i can just roll something quick in js and leave it at that << famous last words? 733062;1403739635;Naphex;mike_c: its just for signing a transactions that is already composed and signed, multi sig also 733063;1403739656;Naphex;i wouldn't care much even if 2nd key got compromised, since the raw pre-signed transaction delivered is already composed 733064;1403739681;mike_c;"JavaScript-based cryptography" just sounds.. terrifying. 733065;1403739690;Naphex;i agree 733066;1403739704;Naphex;but for signing a multisig not that bad 733067;1403739739;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00082446 = 5.5239 BTC [+] 733068;1403739845;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/9365/725/avatar92.jpg?1394547263 << tat avatar ? /// I think it's my disqus avatar 733069;1403739856;ThickAsThieves;never forget! 733070;1403740000;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> get out. they gotta be physically there too, it's not worth it /// until someone makes some AirbndUberApp that makes doublespending a crowdgoal or whatever 733071;1403740288;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.0008244 = 1.319 BTC [-] 733072;1403740687;Naphex;gn 733073;1403741508;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.04455639 = 0.5792 BTC [-] {4} 733074;1403742240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19231 @ 0.00082318 = 15.8306 BTC [-] {3} 733075;1403742301;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00082204 = 9.9878 BTC [-] 733076;1403744070;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19819 @ 0.00082356 = 16.3221 BTC [+] {2} 733077;1403744329;mod6;%d 733078;1403744330;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 382007.64 in 1850 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -25.32 733079;1403745405;moiety;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/new-creationist-museum-explains-how-noah-managed-to-fit-dinosaurs-on-the-ark-9552108.html 733080;1403745405;assbot;New creationist museum explains how Noah managed to fit dinosaurs on the ark - Weird News - News - The Independent 733081;1403745479;TheNewDeal;nice 733082;1403745490;TheNewDeal;was wondering how he did dat 733083;1403745632;TheNewDeal;I'm getting really excited for this silk road auction. Can't wait to see how it goes down 733084;1403746826;benkay;makes perfect sense, mo 733085;1403747730;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0008255 = 12.7953 BTC [+] 733086;1403748279;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.0444018 = 2.2201 BTC [-] {5} 733087;1403748340;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.0444 = 2.22 BTC [-] 733088;1403749276;Mats_cd03;why bring babies when you can bring a carton of dinosaur eggs 733089;1403749286;Mats_cd03;DUH 733090;1403749386;moiety;ya, i am so glad they cleared that one up 733091;1403749478;moiety;i was marooned on the sofa for some time due to a rather fast large spider travelling around my livingroom floor 733092;1403749809;bloctoc;has anyone discussed how they decided to purchase 200BTC worth of BPAY? 733093;1403749872;ThickAsThieves;it's not THAT absurd, if you can afford it 733094;1403749884;mike_c;huh? looks like ~25btc 733095;1403749928;TheNewDeal;I think it's slightly absurd because the whole F.Derp is just in its beginning stages 733096;1403749944;mike_c;!t m d.bpay 733097;1403749944;assbot;[MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 7D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 30D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC) 733098;1403749947;bloctoc;not saying it's absurd, it's a serious question. 733099;1403749950;mike_c;^ 25.00 btc 733100;1403749981;bloctoc;the detail page has 900 shares, the overview has 100 shares if I'm reading it right, then something's amis 733101;1403749987;bloctoc;s 733102;1403750005;mike_c;those are the shares mp is offering for sale 733103;1403750013;mike_c;he offered 1000, 100 have been bought 733104;1403750016;bloctoc;oh, got it. 733105;1403750157;bloctoc;25 BTC I can see not feeling too bad if you guess wrong. 733106;1403750173;bloctoc;but feeling good if you guess right 733107;1403750192;bloctoc;of course, it's probably more sophisticated than that 733108;1403750282;benkay;one might consider...hedging. 733109;1403750365;TheNewDeal;well BPay shares can be sold at a later date, no? 733110;1403750424;bloctoc;I don't see how anyone would be able to hedge bpay today 733111;1403750488;bloctoc;they would have to be sold at a later date since there are no buy orders yet. 733112;1403750598;benkay;D.BPAY or the actual shares? 733113;1403750631;benkay;what, hold btc's not a good enough hedge? 733114;1403750655;benkay;D.BPAY is a hedge against the fartup cirkus producing something with market value in the next year or w/e 733115;1403750668;benkay;bloctoc: 733116;1403750682;bloctoc;that's a bet, not a hedge 733117;1403750695;TheNewDeal;F.DERP is the hedge 733118;1403750708;Mats_cd03;on the subject of bets, write a proper proposition and that can be your hedge. 733119;1403750709;TheNewDeal;against the group of derps 733120;1403750719;Mats_cd03;problem solved 733121;1403750724;Mats_cd03;thanks kako 733122;1403750745;benkay;buy F.DERP, buy D.*, ams hedged 733123;1403750747;TheNewDeal;F.Derp was made to short the basket of derps 733124;1403750748;bloctoc;proposition on bitbet you mean? 733125;1403750762;Mats_cd03;yes 733126;1403750763;TheNewDeal;implied 733127;1403750782;benkay;yeah, F takes you short, D takes you long 733128;1403750800;benkay;hedging against their bringing something to market is betting that they do 733129;1403750819;TheNewDeal;the strange thing is how the D pays out 733130;1403750831;benkay;please correct me, bloctoc 733131;1403750842;benkay;what's strange about it, TheNewDeal ? 733132;1403750847;bloctoc;I thought S.MPOE was F.DERP and I don't see F.DERP Am I Right? 733133;1403750853;TheNewDeal;talked about it earlier 733134;1403750864;TheNewDeal;but the gist is this 733135;1403750881;TheNewDeal;in a theoretical scenario, a company pays for the worth of the startup 733136;1403750902;TheNewDeal;talking about an aquisition type here 733137;1403750929;TheNewDeal;so the stock of the acquirer shouldn't really change 733138;1403750973;TheNewDeal;Example was. If Bitpay is worth 1Billion usd, FB forks over 1 Billion USD, FB valuation stays same 733139;1403750997;TheNewDeal;in reality, FB stock is volatile, could potentially have a large shift in the 30 day period 733140;1403751122;bloctoc;benkay where did you discover F.DERP? 733141;1403751139;thestringpuller;!mpif 733142;1403751140;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 733143;1403751159;benkay;bloctoc: logs 733144;1403751268;bloctoc;I see it - this whole hedging discussion makes sense now. thanks 733145;1403751307;TheNewDeal;bloctoc https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z 733146;1403751307;assbot;Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip 733147;1403751417;benkay;for a second i was hoping to learn something there :D 733148;1403751425;benkay;maybe mircea_popescu comes by later to school me 733149;1403751524;TheNewDeal;did my explanation make any sense about an acquisition type event? 733150;1403751629;bloctoc;you had me until "FB Stock is volatile". Meanwhile I understand the concept of hedging, I just didn't realize when I asked the question that there was such a thing as F.DERP 733151;1403751662;benkay;can't have puts without calls, etc 733152;1403751697;bloctoc;not legally anyway... 733153;1403751762;Mats_cd03;uh... 733154;1403751788;Mats_cd03;nothing to do with law, this is how it works 733155;1403751790;bloctoc;not legally where I live anyway.. 733156;1403751801;benkay;no no, the market just falls over with one and not the other 733157;1403751807;benkay;naked shorts bad, covered shorts good 733158;1403751829;benkay;going long without commensurate short options is cuh-fukken-razy 733159;1403752732;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04285624 = 1.0714 BTC [-] {3} 733160;1403752963;TheNewDeal;Per the world cup article http://trilema.com/2014/the-results-of-the-world-cup-experiment/ . I think BitBet should allow zeroconf bets simultaneously on Yes and No, especially if they move to requiring a 2 BTC minimum. 733161;1403752965;assbot;The results of the World Cup experiment. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 733162;1403752981;TheNewDeal;The site profits off total volume, not someone forking over a risky bet on one side 733163;1403753228;TheNewDeal;Also, why is it said that BitBet "fronts" .1 BTC on the bet? I thought they split .1 BTC, some portion going to the original bettor, and the other portion is a wager that will pay the site 733164;1403753494;Mats_cd03;the bet is seeded. look at the first two wagers for each bet 733165;1403753829;benkay;;;later tell TheNewDeal you had it right the first time 733166;1403753829;gribble;The operation succeeded. 733167;1403753861;Mats_cd03;o...join leaves r disabled on my client ffs 733168;1403754257;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.04202638 = 2.1013 BTC [-] {6} 733169;1403754404;benkay;there's always tab-complete, Mats_cd03 733170;1403754418;benkay;look who's joining us 733171;1403754422;benkay;hey baby doll 733172;1403754426;benkay;play me some jamz? 733173;1403754446;Vexual;i think kako might anuerism 733174;1403754459;benkay;eh, that's his problem 733175;1403754700;Vexual;yeah.. well 733176;1403754713;benkay;i guess yours then as well 733177;1403754719;benkay;kakos problems are all of our problems 733178;1403754738;Vexual;maybe so 733179;1403754778;Vexual;it might make it harder to bet not chinese on the ladies tennis 733180;1403754970;benkay;beer empty 733181;1403754971;benkay;going home 733182;1403755050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77300 @ 0.0008239 = 63.6875 BTC [-] {2} 733183;1403755160;Vexual;syntax error 733184;1403756106;Vexual;g'day cazalla 733185;1403756116;cazalla;hey Vexual 733186;1403756127;Vexual;how are ya mate? 733187;1403756151;cazalla;tired, missus is out getting hair done so im stuck with baby 733188;1403756165;cazalla;you? 733189;1403756199;Vexual;yeah painfully sober 733190;1403756218;Vexual;did you see big clive palmer with al gore? 733191;1403756236;cazalla;nah, i don't follow it closely nor do i vote 733192;1403756273;cazalla;what's he up to? 733193;1403756347;Vexual;he flew gore in to stand next to him at a press conference and give the nod to repealing the carbon tax with a view to setting up interational emmissions trading 733194;1403756413;cazalla;on his own dime or taxpayers? 733195;1403756481;Vexual;well there are no details 733196;1403756486;Vexual;hes a funny bugger 733197;1403756579;cazalla;you would've loved dinner last night, crumbed rabbit, pan fried for 5 and then into oven for 30m 733198;1403756580;Vexual;he rolled up to parliment in his vintage silver shadow a few weeks back, van morrison blasting, hopped out and gave a speech to the waiting press about how politicians should pay for their own cars 733199;1403756604;Vexual;what did you have with it? 733200;1403756616;cazalla;rocket salad 733201;1403756629;cazalla;and some thai dipping sauce from coles heh 733202;1403756639;Vexual;that sounds too good 733203;1403756676;cazalla;have a bunch of livers to make pate with on weekend too 733204;1403756687;Vexual;rabbit pate is a thing? 733205;1403756733;cazalla;supposedly, i've never had or made it before, i've been keeping livers frozen as it didn't seem worthwhile to make a small amount and i butcher them as needed so it's not like i have a lot of livers at once 733206;1403756744;cazalla;i can't imagine it taste too different from chicken pate etc 733207;1403756753;Vexual;maybe not 733208;1403756880;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.04100001 = 0.902 BTC [-] 733209;1403756941;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04100002 = 0.656 BTC [+] 733210;1403757491;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.041 = 1.558 BTC [-] 733211;1403757515;bloctoc;http://savetoby.com/ 733212;1403757515;assbot;Savetoby.com | Only YOU have the power to Save Toby! 733213;1403757917;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04050001 = 0.9315 BTC [-] 733214;1403757923;Vexual;I'll have the Lapin Braisé 733215;1403758130;cazalla;lol toby 733216;1403758893;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82100 @ 0.00082367 = 67.6233 BTC [-] {6} 733217;1403758940;benkay;so how much did the rabbit go for? 733218;1403759022;*;benkay imagines thepyruvatebay.se 733219;1403759198;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00082588 = 10.4887 BTC [+] 733220;1403759222;Vexual;its about $16kilo dressed 733221;1403760108;mircea_popescu;o look at all the logs 733222;1403760112;mircea_popescu;!up Ken` 733223;1403760174;moiety;I've been thinking about salmon since you left 733224;1403760221;mircea_popescu;came out pretty good 733225;1403760278;moiety;i'm gonna have to get some today 733226;1403760283;Vexual;skin on needs to be fryed hard on that side 733227;1403760299;cazalla;skin is the best bit 733228;1403760318;Vexual;yeah but if it's not fried fast enough it's chewy 733229;1403760347;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete not so sure i did. o wait, http://trilema.com/2014/most-wrong-and-absolutely-wrongest/ right you are 733230;1403760349;assbot;Most wrong and absolutely wrongest pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 733231;1403760349;gribble;The operation succeeded. 733232;1403760361;mircea_popescu;cazalla i usually throw it away 733233;1403760381;mircea_popescu;this sushi place i go to has salmon skin rolls, i'm like... wtf, make me an orange and banana peels salad next 733234;1403760382;Vexual;i remove it just for knife skills 733235;1403760489;cazalla;sacrilege 733236;1403760539;cazalla;i wish i could buy skin only 733237;1403760546;moiety;ew 733238;1403760546;Vexual;lets do a deal 733239;1403760581;Vexual;the diff in price at the shop is more than the knife skills and the weight combined 733240;1403760621;moiety;they left the scales on haddock once in a restaurant i as at. i don't know if it was a mistake or that happens anywhere in the world but just.. no. 733241;1403760638;mircea_popescu;AirbndUberApp, that sounds unavoidable. 733242;1403760658;Vexual;cazalla, remember these people probabl;y get real atlantic salmon too 733243;1403760663;mircea_popescu;"it's like airbnb of messaging and uber of boarding houses rolled into a joint and whazzup dude ?" 733244;1403760664;Vexual;we get it's cousin 733245;1403760686;mircea_popescu;Vexual ba is on a river. salmon lives here. 733246;1403760723;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00082588 = 10.3235 BTC [+] 733247;1403760728;mircea_popescu;moiety: i was marooned on the sofa for some time due to a rather fast large spider travelling around my livingroom floor <<< ahahaha so cute 733248;1403760737;cazalla;Vexual: how about aussie salmon :P ugh 733249;1403760796;mircea_popescu;bloctoc: they would have to be sold at a later date since there are no buy orders yet. << actually that 25 was a buy order iirc 733250;1403760839;Vexual;i love me some aussie salmon 733251;1403760866;cazalla;really? 733252;1403760869;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: Example was. If Bitpay is worth 1Billion usd, FB forks over 1 Billion USD, FB valuation stays same << this is an example out of the "spherical chicken in vacuum" variety. 733253;1403760935;cazalla;Vexual: i always throw them back 733254;1403760951;Vexual;what are you trying to catch? 733255;1403760971;mircea_popescu;TheNewDeal: The site profits off total volume, not someone forking over a risky bet on one side << nobody prevents you from covering the short end after bet is approved. 733256;1403760997;mircea_popescu;if you figure your odds are 2:5 put 2 btc on the short odds then put .8 on the long odds and there you go. 733257;1403761002;moiety;scottish salmon is lovely cazalla 733258;1403761025;Vexual;mircea_popesu:saw your blog salmon, looked nice and fat; was it local? 733259;1403761025;dub;I dont think aussie salmon has anything to do with salmon 733260;1403761032;cazalla;dub: spot on 733261;1403761036;moiety;oh 733262;1403761037;cazalla;it's foul 733263;1403761051;mircea_popescu;Vexual ya 733264;1403761058;cazalla;Vexual: tailor, whiting, bream, kingies 733265;1403761064;mircea_popescu;dub agreed. it's prolly scottish salmon 733266;1403761066;cazalla;get some leather jacket too 733267;1403761080;Vexual;is that in order>? 733268;1403761084;cazalla;aussie salmon is a great game fish but shitty eating 733269;1403761097;dub;cazalla: if aussie salmon is what I think it is then you are probably fucking it up 733270;1403761105;cazalla;Vexual: depends on time of year and where I am, I don't do much fishing down here in Melbourne, more so when I go up Sydney with my brother/father 733271;1403761112;Vexual;its called kahawai in nz 733272;1403761119;Vexual;aussie salmon 733273;1403761120;dub;you need to bleed it 733274;1403761137;cazalla;dub: maybe I am but I've tried numerous times and it always taste awful 733275;1403761145;cazalla;yeah I've bleed it 733276;1403761146;Vexual;did you ever smoke it? 733277;1403761156;cazalla;nope, how's that? 733278;1403761171;Vexual;well its an oily fish, so it smokes well 733279;1403761171;cazalla;i mean, you can get it at the fish market for 2.99 a kg that's how bad it is 733280;1403761178;moiety;smoked salmon is gorgeous 733281;1403761181;dub;its not oily if you bleed it 733282;1403761207;Vexual;where are you from dub? 733283;1403761213;mircea_popescu; its not oily if you bleed it << he's found the cure for colesterol. 733284;1403761223;dub;dublandistan 733285;1403761266;Vexual;in australia we call what you know as salmon ocean trout 733286;1403761280;Vexual;and it'll slap you in the face its so good 733287;1403761328;Vexual;but then theres aussie salmon, which isnt salmon 733288;1403761338;Vexual;but thats what we call it 733289;1403761347;Vexual;coz is tastes gooode 733290;1403761348;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2P4K0HT.txt ) 733291;1403761348;benkay;!b 4 733292;1403761363;benkay;Vexual what's wrong with you 733293;1403761366;benkay;when did you start making sense 733294;1403761382;benkay;who's taken over Vexual's computer? 733295;1403761384;Vexual;temporarily sober 733296;1403761385;moiety;he's sober today 733297;1403761400;benkay;o wait i read that in the log! 733298;1403761404;benkay;my sympathies 733299;1403761426;benkay;here, have a weird: https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/482000455921577984 733300;1403761428;assbot;This is a thing: Greenscreen-clad workers who secretly flip models' hair during shampoo commercials. http://t.co/tfHvykkxS8 ht /MakingOfs 733301;1403761470;dub;just about got my cholesterol bled out on the way home 733302;1403761573;dub;pulled out from outside bar, dodge slow traffic lane, wot in clear lane, oncoming bbw buts across gab in slow lane into mine 733303;1403761594;dub;gap* 733304;1403761627;moiety;o.o 733305;1403761638;dub;ABS engaged, no seatbelt yet, jimmies retracting 733306;1403761831;Vexual;did you fuck her? 733307;1403761847;BingoBoingo;What, was the sidewalk to narrow for this bbw? 733308;1403761928;dub;Vexual: nearly 733309;1403761957;Vexual;lol 733310;1403762262;Vexual;is your scooter okay? 733311;1403762309;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.04498489 = 0.9897 BTC [-] {2} 733312;1403762987;BingoBoingo;%d 733313;1403762988;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 402819.45 in 1812 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -21.25 733314;1403763015;Vexual;can't evenm tut at the devs 733315;1403763229;davout;"in australia we call what you know as salmon ocean trout" <<< i saw already opened oysters being sold there Oo 733316;1403763241;Vexual;sydney? 733317;1403763243;davout;le gross 733318;1403763248;davout;melbourne 733319;1403763255;Vexual;oh 733320;1403763297;Vexual;sydney oysters are really good, its a thing 733321;1403763533;Vexual;and yes, they are provided open, because you are not an otter 733322;1403763938;BingoBoingo;What, I'm hairy and spend a lot of time in the water 733323;1403764017;Vexual;yes you can probly open an oyster, but in polite company.. 733324;1403764038;BingoBoingo;Fuck you! I'm an otter! 733325;1403764083;Vexual;ok leave his unshucked 733326;1403764253;Vexual;;;seen nubbins' 733327;1403764254;gribble;I have not seen nubbins'. 733328;1403764265;Vexual;whats that cats name? 733329;1403764810;Vexual;benkay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_iVxiBNGFM 733330;1403764955;moiety;;;seen nubbins` 733331;1403764956;gribble;nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif 733332;1403765000;moiety;so are btc-e scam now? or have i just been unlucky? 733333;1403765211;Vexual;whats the problem? 733334;1403765238;moiety;i withdrew via wire transfer. its £91 short 733335;1403765257;punkman;moiety, one of these days btc-e will disappear, don't be a bagholder 733336;1403765280;moiety;wasnt planning on using it again, just a one off thing for quickness...stupidly 733337;1403765297;moiety;1018/ 1003 after fees. 911 received 733338;1403765315;punkman;maybe there's an extra moiety fee 733339;1403765315;moiety;i cant find anything else like this on them at all 733340;1403765336;Vexual;bank wire are expensive, i dont know about btce 733341;1403765338;moiety;i'll hunt them down with manuls if thats the case 733342;1403765400;moiety;btce says 1.5% fee which was accounted for though Vexual 733343;1403766297;davout;Vexual: "and yes, they are provided open, because you are not an otter" <<< men open their oysters 733344;1403766579;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00082555 = 16.9238 BTC [-] 733345;1403767353;moiety;o apparently they just add another £100 fee on 733346;1403768063;BingoBoingo;moiety: Does Scotland have capital controls? 733347;1403768317;moiety;not that i know of but apparently its a worry in independence 733348;1403768525;BingoBoingo;%d 733349;1403768526;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 405267.07 in 1803 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -20.77 733350;1403769751;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 98 @ 0.19660978 = 19.2678 BTC [+] {9} 733351;1403769987;pankkake;wait you can buy F.DERP too? 733352;1403770062;assbot;Vallance +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 733353;1403770117;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00082297 = 5.5962 BTC [-] 733354;1403770157;BingoBoingo;!up Vallance 733355;1403770163;BingoBoingo;;;ident Vallance 733356;1403770163;gribble;Nick 'Vallance', with hostmask 'Vallance!~Admin@209.222.5.229', is identified as user 'Vallance', with GPG key id 6F25D26878495E5B, key fingerprint 13E5460851BAFFA53AC574336F25D26878495E5B, and bitcoin address None 733357;1403770168;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust Vallance 733358;1403770169;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask Vallance!~Admin@209.222.5.229. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Vallance: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=Vallance | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vallance | Rated since: never 733359;1403770170;Vallance;Thanks 733360;1403770177;BingoBoingo;You're welcome 733361;1403770178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00082267 = 17.2761 BTC [-] 733362;1403770202;BingoBoingo;What brings you here today Vallance? 733363;1403770288;Vallance;Well, just trying to become more pro-active about using the WoT and I follow MPOE quite a bit and enjoy the opinions this channel shares. 733364;1403770357;Vallance;It's becoming increasingly more difficult to find a place to have an intelligent conversation about Bitcoin in public on the internet. 733365;1403770364;bloctoc;!ticker MPEX F.DERP 733366;1403770433;BingoBoingo;Vallance: It is indeed a problem 733367;1403770463;BingoBoingo;Vallance: What other sort of stuff do you do in the republic of Bitcoin? 733368;1403770565;Vallance;Myself and a couple others run a small Bitcoin exchange known as BitSpot. It's not an exchange as in the sense of BitStamp or BTC-E, it's more in the sense of CoinMama or the former BitInstant 733369;1403770621;BingoBoingo;Interesting 733370;1403770625;[]bot;Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/938/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.36090125 BTC. Current weight: 61,518. 733371;1403770711;Vallance;We were hoping to target our suburban town and cause a good stir but our physical business traffic isn't near what we hoped. 733372;1403770769;BingoBoingo;Well, Kentucky... 733373;1403770786;Duffer1;i've never heard of coinmama 733374;1403770827;Vallance;They've been around for a little bit, the main thing about them is that they accept credit cards and debit cards. 733375;1403770838;Vallance;I have no idea how it's working out for them though. 733376;1403770892;BingoBoingo;Ah, Ashland is in the inconvenient part of Kentucky 733377;1403770947;Vallance;Yeah, it's almost like trends and technology are a couple years behind for most people here. 733378;1403770997;Vallance;Although I do believe there are large sums of people who could benefit from Bitcoin in the area 733379;1403771005;BingoBoingo;Kind of hoping Ashland was closer to Paduca which would be a reasonable drive 733380;1403771032;Vallance;Yeah, the farthest someone has came to us has been from Cincinatti 733381;1403771086;Vallance;Actually it is this guy, just came down last week: http://andyschroder.com/BitcoinFluidDispenser/ 733382;1403771086;assbot;Andy Schroder - 733383;1403771236;punkman;Vallance, is this you https://www.bitspot.co/invest/ 733384;1403771238;assbot;Invest | BitSpot 733385;1403771308;Vallance;It's something we're working on, yes. 733386;1403771382;Vallance;It's just the problem with juggling the legalities and how things would "technically" work. 733387;1403771390;punkman;no that's not the problem 733388;1403771421;Duffer1;TaT said it earlier 733389;1403771443;Duffer1;what happens when paypal enters the room and says "thanks for warming my seat." 733390;1403771506;bloctoc;I heard today from reliable sources that gas stations don't want a phone that close to their pumps. needs to be bluetooth. 733391;1403771541;Vallance;Well, the vision I have in mind is to form somewhat of a decentralized liquidity network that anyone could become a part of either through a stake in the liquidity or operating an ATM. 733392;1403771546;BingoBoingo;Vallance: A physical location in the US and an investment solicitation... seems dangerous... 733393;1403771563;Vallance;Yeah, that's why we have the brakes on. 733394;1403771578;Vallance;Thinking of re-structuring our business affairs 733395;1403771585;punkman;did you IPO already? 733396;1403771592;Duffer1;i hear argentina is nice :P 733397;1403771594;Vallance;no, not at all. 733398;1403771610;Vallance;The truth is we started out just as anyone would with Bitcoin trading I suppose 733399;1403771637;punkman;most people start with the CSS 733400;1403771643;Vallance;Next thing you know it snowballs into a real business 733401;1403771685;bloctoc;Do you have an indication that ATMs are providing liquidity? 733402;1403771726;bloctoc;I haven't seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making. 733403;1403771818;Vallance;I believe the ATMs will build good infrastructure for Bitcoin and associate it with new people 733404;1403771848;Vallance;Also the ATMs would help lower the costs of transaction fees that people are facing by using Western Union & MoneyGram 733405;1403771928;punkman;so where are you at now, roughly how much BTC volume per month? 733406;1403771947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.04749499 = 2.2798 BTC [+] 733407;1403771956;BingoBoingo;!up Vallance 733408;1403771969;Vallance;A decent day is around $10,000 worth of volume a day. I know it's not huge, but we don't want to promote more than we can handle. 733409;1403771987;BingoBoingo;Vallance: Honestly I'd kill the Invest page now 733410;1403771998;Vallance;Our margin is 10% both ways. 733411;1403772006;bloctoc;$10,000 through an ATM? or is that on the internet? 733412;1403772012;Vallance;That's total 733413;1403772013;punkman;Vallance: not too bad 733414;1403772035;BingoBoingo;And start flensing the javascript on the site. 733415;1403772037;bloctoc;yeah that's a nice thing you got going 733416;1403772042;Vallance;You're right, I will turn it off right now, just totally forgot in all honesty. We're understaffed. 733417;1403772083;punkman;you don't want to use Counterparty either 733418;1403772095;pankkake;;;ticker --market bitcoin-central --vol 733419;1403772096;gribble;63.36856219 733420;1403772115;Vallance;I've had a lot of chats with the founders of Counterparty and Counterwallet, I feel pretty good about their platform. 733421;1403772124;Vallance;I'm honestly surprised about how it's not more popular? 733422;1403772159;Vallance;Besides Counterparty I only have experience with Mastercoin, which I'm not a big fan of 733423;1403772181;BingoBoingo;Both platforms can have their problems. 733424;1403772194;punkman;they only have problems 733425;1403772197;bloctoc;Vallance are you providing KYC/AML as part of your network? I'm asking because I have a Lamassu 733426;1403772236;pankkake;well mastercoin is made by people who don't know what they are doing, counterparty is in a slighly better position 733427;1403772257;Vallance;Yes, that's the plan. 733428;1403772299;Vallance;The people who run our ATMs (or could even be theirs) would just need to handle cashing out the machine and maintenance 733429;1403772304;BingoBoingo;So... What's the procedure if I just drive in with a shoebox full of cash? 733430;1403772420;Vallance;At an ATM or within our office? 733431;1403772430;Vallance;We haven't had anyone drive in with a shoebox yet 733432;1403772450;Vallance;You would be surprised at the old, nearly looking homeless people who have sold us a handful of Bitcoin though 733433;1403772453;BingoBoingo;Vallance: In your office. 733434;1403772459;Vallance;Didn't even know how to transfer it 733435;1403772530;Vallance;Scan your ID and sign a piece of paper 733436;1403772536;BingoBoingo;Person comes in with a shoebox of cash, and a printout of an address to pay to with a GPG signature. 733437;1403772554;punkman;Vallance, register with gribble, you can probably pick up some good volume marketmaking on OTC 733438;1403772585;punkman;oh never mind 733439;1403772589;punkman;you are authed 733440;1403772597;Vallance;That's what I did, I've been really wanting to become more active here. 733441;1403772619;Vallance;I've lurked the irc logs and the trilema blog quite a bit. 733442;1403772629;BingoBoingo;;;rate Vallance 1 Lending +v 733443;1403772630;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Vallance has been recorded. 733444;1403772736;Vallance;We're really trying to re-work our current system and way of handling things first and foremost. We started with the p2p trading and the problem is we're still operating in that fashion. People enjoy the broker-client relationship but it just doesn't scale that well. 733445;1403772759;BingoBoingo;Vallance: P2P trading is probably where the better margins are. 733446;1403772800;Apocalyptic;^ 733447;1403772809;BingoBoingo;If you go exclusively mass market Paypal eats your lunch and people who hate paypal settle for BitStamp's two cans, a string, and a rectal probe 733448;1403772862;Vallance;I know, it's really insane at how hard it is to move money around the USA. 733449;1403772891;BingoBoingo;If you were to offer a network of atms across a region, maintain an office for inperson service, and have some limited interaction with the web you could carve a nice niche. 733450;1403772913;Vallance;If it was up to me then I would've moved to Panama, but my wife wasn't having it. 733451;1403772926;BingoBoingo;Panama's overcrowded 733452;1403772926;Vallance;That's the goal Bingo. 733453;1403772946;Vallance;I'm honestly open to anywhere else but here 733454;1403773023;BingoBoingo;Also, since money transmitting across the whole US is a pain, just license in kentucky, a few neighboring states, and the rest of the US can be serviced by other people. 733455;1403773061;BingoBoingo;At a minimum probably grab licenses for Illinois, Ohio, and Tennessee 733456;1403773084;Vallance;As far as geographical area, I don't see any real competition in any of those areas, including Kentucky. 733457;1403773101;Vallance;or anyone showing interest yet 733458;1403773153;BingoBoingo;Well, the midwest and mid south are underserved. 733459;1403773232;Vallance;We've had quite a few people travel about 100 miles to exchange 733460;1403773254;Vallance;What blows my mind is the type of people we've encountered that is involved in Bitcoin 733461;1403773268;BingoBoingo;I'd consider the 6-8 hour drive if I had fiat to dispose of. 733462;1403773281;Vallance;Also most of our online business is composed of small transactions ranging from $100-$300 733463;1403773300;Vallance;That is where we make our margins, it isn't that much to them. 733464;1403773311;Vallance;At the end of the day though it adds up for us 733465;1403773369;Vallance;In the works of trying to negotiate a deal with Western Union that would allow people to send us payments through their service as a "Bill Payment" so they would only have to pay $5 733466;1403773378;BingoBoingo;http://www.alternet.org/drugs/swat-team-blew-hole-my-2-year-old-son 733467;1403773380;assbot;A SWAT Team Blew a Hole in My 2-Year-Old Son | Alternet 733468;1403773521;pankkake;so they moved up from dogs. great. 733469;1403773532;Vallance;Wow, that is insane. 733470;1403773567;Vallance;Even if the child survives what about the loud deafening bang and flash that happened right over top of him 733471;1403773610;Vallance;I'm sure that will have a permanent effect 733472;1403773732;punkman;BingoBoingo: and you want to drive around with shoeboxes full of cash 733473;1403773758;punkman;you aren't even gonna make it to the gasenwagen 733474;1403773793;punkman;Vallance, you can !up yourself now 733475;1403773811;Vallance;Punkman, thanks 733476;1403773846;BingoBoingo;punkman: You can still fit a lot of pennies in a shoebox 733477;1403773962;punkman;BingoBoingo: I suppose they won't care so much about dogecoins 733478;1403774021;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00082267 = 9.2139 BTC [-] 733479;1403774086;BingoBoingo;punkman: Vending machines are still a think. Probably the best way for a vending machine operator to get bitcoin from vending machines is... Exchanging the cash directly. 733480;1403774374;Vallance;I had someone contact me a couple months ago about KYC/AML Identification services. They may have been a new company, can't clearly remember. They are supposed to streamline and handle all your compliance requirements for you when interacting with customers on exchanging funds. 733481;1403774401;Naphex;Vallance: i'm not sure how many people will handover 3rd party data 733482;1403774412;Naphex;or how many exchanges/bussiness will want a 3rd party holding highly private data 733483;1403774415;Vallance;That's how I felt too 733484;1403774454;Vallance;It's honestly one of the things that I'm most torn about. In all reality I want to know as least as possible. 733485;1403774499;Vallance;I just want to know if the money you're sending is good, that's all I would like to know but then the government and state have to get involved. 733486;1403774573;Naphex;one of the problems with 3rd party validation, is who would get goverment wrath. I doubt they'd be going after the validation service instead of the exchange 733487;1403774619;Naphex;everyone just attacks the person who moves the money, so might as well just do your own AML/KYC 733488;1403774679;Vallance;The only real problem as far as moving money has went has been with Chase Bank, they're horrible. 733489;1403774714;Vallance;Credit Unions are the ideal people to bank with but unfortunately my preferred one around here isn't a part of the CU Swirl Network 733490;1403774760;Vallance;Hey, does anyone know what is going on with UpDown.bt ? 733491;1403774811;Naphex;Vallance: never heard of it before, is that binary options? 733492;1403774826;Vallance;I seen a few accusations fly around at Bitcointalk.org, I've been following their business seeing how it goes since they came out 733493;1403774854;Vallance;Yeah but they don't publish their feeds and now it doesn't even seem like they are paying out immediately (that's something I don't understand with automated services and Bitcoin) 733494;1403774870;Vallance;The biggest thing of it all is that they are a Gold Member at the BitcoinFoundation 733495;1403774878;Naphex;well flashing a Bitcoin Foundation Gold Member 733496;1403774883;Naphex;is in no way a sign of trust :) 733497;1403774894;Vallance;Oh, trust me I know 733498;1403774907;Vallance;They were shilling for them in a couple press releases on TBF 733499;1403774939;pankkake;so they still vouch for services - they have learned nothing 733500;1403774946;Vallance;but what gets me is that they don't even show where they are getting their data from, or will they disclose it 733501;1403774955;Vallance;They were very open about that. 733502;1403774958;punkman;Vallance: does uptdown.bt start the timer when they see your tx at zero conf? 733503;1403775000;pankkake;by the way http://btcoracle.com/ French competitor 733504;1403775002;assbot;BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading 733505;1403775003;Naphex;punkman: probably, i'd suck to do 60seconds binary options with 3 confirmations :) 733506;1403775005;Vallance;I've only tested it like twice with small amounts, I don't remember. 733507;1403775009;Vallance;Yeah I really like BTCOracle 733508;1403775032;pankkake;they're in my non-bitcoin web of trust 733509;1403775063;BingoBoingo;Vallance: Are you or your business in the foundation? 733510;1403775071;Vallance;No 733511;1403775132;BingoBoingo;Cool 733512;1403775156;punkman;pankkake: do they start the timer at zero conf? 733513;1403775169;pankkake;I don't know, I never used it myself 733514;1403775182;punkman;can't believe no one cares to put this in their FAQ 733515;1403775191;Vallance;The TBF hasn't even done anything positive for Bitcoin, all they have done is promote companies that end up ripping people off. 733516;1403775223;Vallance;They also made themselves a target to be slaughtered by the media because of their scandals 733517;1403775254;pankkake;" We use the time of the transaction from http://blockchain.info/ to determine the exact second where the option was created, and then we use the list of mtgox transactions that is available via the http://Bitcoincharts.com/ mtgox historic API to determine both the opening price and the closing price of the option. " 733518;1403775254;assbot;Bitcoin Block Explorer - Blockchain.info 733519;1403775255;assbot;Bitcoin Charts 733520;1403775259;pankkake;" In case of lag from blockchain.info timestamp, we will use the timestamp from our own client. We will always check for the earliest possible timestamp we can get to ensure you have the smoothest experience possible. " 733521;1403775276;pankkake;that FAQ should be updated 733522;1403775633;punkman;pankkake: cool, just gave it a try 733523;1403775885;Vallance;Okay so planefinder.net is telling me there are 4786 planes in the air and UpDown.bt is telling me 6318 733524;1403776039;Vallance;Flightradar24.com is saying around 6,300 733525;1403776181;pankkake;http://www.cnet.com/news/yahoos-mayer-apologized-for-being-late-to-advertiser-dinner/ 733526;1403776182;assbot;Yahoo's Mayer 'apologized' for being late to advertiser dinner - CNET 733527;1403776286;punkman;good, Marissa's bet needs some drama 733528;1403776308;punkman;http://bitbet.us/bet/967/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-to-be-yahoo-ceo/ 733529;1403776308;assbot;BitBet - Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer to be Yahoo CEO no more :: 0.06 B (40%) on Yes, 0.09 B (60%) on No | closing in 11 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`832 (100`000 to 1) 733530;1403776402;Vallance;Shares move down 9 percent after she overslept, lol. 733531;1403776443;Vallance;Why wouldn't you just come up with a bullshit story, i'd imagine it's hard enough being a female CEO of a tech company. 733532;1403776484;pankkake;perhaps it is the bullshit story 733533;1403776506;Duffer1;9% because someone was late? 733534;1403776528;punkman;%book 733535;1403776529;atcbot;65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 733536;1403776530;Apocalyptic;talk about ration investors 733537;1403776536;Apocalyptic;*rational 733538;1403777115;pankkake;http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/25/2239246/matchcom-mensa-create-dating-site-for-geniuses 733539;1403777116;assbot;Match.com, Mensa Create Dating Site For Geniuses - Slashdot 733540;1403777302;Apocalyptic;pankkake, did you register ? 733541;1403777372;pankkake;what's the required IQ? 733542;1403777380;pankkake;not that I've done serious IQ tests 733543;1403777647;Apocalyptic;no idea 733544;1403777746;davout;pankkake: i think mensa requires 150 or sthg 733545;1403777783;pankkake;yes, so I probably can't 733546;1403778502;cazalla;oh wow, pokerstars was sold for 4.9b 733547;1403780426;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12618 @ 0.00082182 = 10.3697 BTC [-] 733548;1403781463;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25882 @ 0.00082272 = 21.2936 BTC [+] {2} 733549;1403782026;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 733550;1403782028;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 566.96, Best ask: 569.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 569.0, 24 hour volume: 8263.87757571, 24 hour low: 554.45, 24 hour high: 572.87, 24 hour vwap: 563.04930274 733551;1403782346;BingoBoingo;%t 733552;1403782347;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 278 Last Price: 279 24h-Vol: 70k High: 279 Low: 222 VWAP: 258 733553;1403782753;BingoBoingo;!mpif 733554;1403782754;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 733555;1403782927;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43592 @ 0.0008251 = 35.9678 BTC [+] {3} 733556;1403783487;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.0 no one even mentions the only profitable investment on Havelock 733557;1403783487;assbot;Why Do You Invest? 733558;1403783501;pankkake;they just like shit too much 733559;1403783608;mircea_popescu;which was that ? 733560;1403783720;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22673 @ 0.00082369 = 18.6755 BTC [-] {3} 733561;1403783768;punkman;but they are all profitable in lols 733562;1403783776;mircea_popescu;lol 733563;1403783778;mircea_popescu;YEAH! 733564;1403783783;mircea_popescu;profitlolable 733565;1403783809;punkman;who's lambchop 733566;1403783861;mircea_popescu;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#732705 733567;1403783862;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 733568;1403783868;mircea_popescu;iitl 733569;1403783904;pankkake;mircea_popescu: XBOND 733570;1403783917;mircea_popescu;was that namworld's ? 733571;1403783942;pankkake;no, ThickAsThieves. Namworld issued on BTC-TC 733572;1403783973;mircea_popescu;ah yes 733573;1403783977;pankkake;the two loans I know of, on BitFunder, defaulted 733574;1403784004;mircea_popescu;wait, namworld's loans you mean ? 733575;1403784027;pankkake;no 733576;1403784144;chetty;just when you thought it couldn't get any dumber:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/26/us/politics/boehner-to-seek-bill-to-sue-obama-over-executive-actions.html?_r=0 733577;1403784209;mircea_popescu;lol the butthurt of the world financial system @ argentina is palpable. order a payment to argentine anything ? "risk flagged transaction". why ? o, well... because we dun want argentina to has moneyz. won't you reconsider ? 733578;1403784264;mircea_popescu;chetty boehnerheaded will be a thing. longer than boneheaded, but it's worth it. 733579;1403784445;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/26/cash-and-credit-in-a-cryptocurrency-economy-part-2/ 733580;1403784608;pankkake;so, argentina defaults? 733581;1403784659;mircea_popescu;no 733582;1403784662;mircea_popescu;it just doesn't pay. 733583;1403784703;mircea_popescu;justusranvier http://i.imgur.com/X85yxzk.jpg << i submit this to you. what's it look like, from a purely visual perspective ? 733584;1403784710;mircea_popescu;to me it looks like a bloody spamsite. 733585;1403784754;pankkake;what's the difference? 733586;1403784778;mircea_popescu;pankkake well that's the joke lol 733587;1403784813;pankkake;right; so my question here was more rhetorical: what next, since they won't be able to borrow anytime soon? 733588;1403784841;pankkake;of course, I remember the early "greece should default" voices and they were right 733589;1403784841;mircea_popescu;they will, and they are. just, not from the western block. 733590;1403784852;pankkake;weird 733591;1403784856;BingoBoingo;Well, Argentina buys some F.MPIF and backs their currency with that 733592;1403784875;mircea_popescu;what's mpif, 400 btc or so ? 733593;1403784876;pankkake;oh, that's why canada closed just-dice in retaliation 733594;1403784883;mircea_popescu;lmao 733595;1403784891;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WE0STH.txt ) 733596;1403784891;BingoBoingo;!b 4 733597;1403784893;mircea_popescu;bitrisk! the game of international intrigue 733598;1403784949;Naphex;mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWfJiVzKXU - I think it turned out alrighty :) 733599;1403784949;assbot;Introducere BTCXchange.ro - YouTube 733600;1403784954;mircea_popescu;anyway, what's next. real estate shock and possibly another currency 733601;1403784978;mircea_popescu;Naphex 4 views, how could it go wrong :D 733602;1403784996;Naphex;mircea_popescu: haha, i ment the content. just uploaded it 733603;1403785024;mircea_popescu;guy has me watching ads nao. 733604;1403785039;Naphex;might as well :) 733605;1403785046;Naphex;a pretty boring day 733606;1403785049;mircea_popescu;Naphex a ok. so what's this for ? tv doesn't take 143 second clips now does it ? 733607;1403785073;Naphex;mircea_popescu: nah, TV will have something different 733608;1403785161;Naphex;also need some better voiceover for tv 733609;1403785205;mircea_popescu;yeah the woman sounds like she's had a lot of fun in her youth. 733610;1403785351;Naphex;as well multi-currency is in testing, its gonna go live sometime next week. 733611;1403785358;Naphex;straight with EUR and USD support 733612;1403785370;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/482068187819696128 733613;1403785371;assbot;The scary thing, I more inclined to believe this than the louder mining manufacterers are getting their acts together http://t.co/rjLcP6YjPO 733614;1403785373;mircea_popescu;pretty cool 733615;1403785379;pankkake;same bank for both? 733616;1403785384;Naphex;pankkake: yep 733617;1403785387;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo your grammer! 733618;1403785420;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: 140 characters... 733619;1403785428;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27404 @ 0.00082225 = 22.5329 BTC [-] {2} 733620;1403785447;mircea_popescu;o right 733621;1403785473;pankkake;indeed apparently, the less a manufacturer advertises the more it delivers 733622;1403785523;BingoBoingo;am was a casulty of twatter's tyranny 733623;1403785530;ThickAsThieves;<+moiety> i withdrew via wire transfer. its £91 short /// I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? 733624;1403785579;ThickAsThieves;<+bloctoc> I haven't seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making. /// I've seen some data from Robocoin users that do quite well - paid off their machines in 1-3mos 733625;1403785598;mircea_popescu; indeed apparently, the less a manufacturer advertises the more it delivers <<< not just in mining. 733626;1403785637;mircea_popescu;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Jaundice_in_newborn.jpg << needs caption ? 733627;1403785855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0477 = 0.954 BTC [+] 733628;1403785913;ThickAsThieves;<+punkman> good, Marissa's bet needs some drama /// lol this is how news looks when you piss of an advertiser 733629;1403786046;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> to me it looks like a bloody spamsite. /// or at least made by amateurs 733630;1403786089;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2009/website-uri-ce-n-au-nici-o-vina/ 733631;1403786091;assbot;Website-uri ce n-au nici o vina. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 733632;1403786095;mircea_popescu;pic is kinda self-explainatory 733633;1403786099;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.0477 = 2.3373 BTC [+] 733634;1403786181;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Jaundice_in_newborn.jpg << needs caption ? /// tits or gtfo 733635;1403786193;mircea_popescu;nah kid is more like suspicious. 733636;1403786231;pankkake;tried to translate a comment. "deci iti faci toti trollarii numai din ciocolata? :)" => "So you do all trollarii only chocolate? :)" 733637;1403786243;pankkake;alternative is "So you do all trollarii only Business cards? :)" 733638;1403786270;ThickAsThieves;this Mayer article just brings to light how consistently useless CNET is 733639;1403786302;Naphex;pankkake: romanian has a way of carrying meaning into sentences that will prolly never translate :) 733640;1403786316;ThickAsThieves;sucks that she;s the first CEO that was ever late to a function 733641;1403786317;BingoBoingo;Has CNET ever been useful for anything other than discovering which flip phone can maintain contact with a tower? 733642;1403786321;Naphex;pankkake: "So you build all your trolls only of chocolate?" :) 733643;1403786343;ThickAsThieves;"CNET has contacted Yahoo for comment. "lolz 733644;1403786360;pankkake;oh. so trollarii really means troll (that's why I tried to translate) :) 733645;1403786371;Naphex;yeah, troll's slanged 733646;1403786384;ThickAsThieves;twitter has contacted reddit's instagram for comments 733647;1403786411;pankkake;I wonder if community manager is ever a real job. I've only seen interns do it 733648;1403786419;mircea_popescu;troll in english taken as is by romanian (because romanian considers all languages merely badly spoken, more retarded cases of using romanian) and then flexion applied 733649;1403786432;mircea_popescu;trollerii : plural, masculine noun of to troll 733650;1403786447;ThickAsThieves;the comments are even worse 733651;1403786475;pankkake;gendered trolls? awesome 733652;1403786478;mircea_popescu;aye. 733653;1403786487;mircea_popescu;troalele would be a bunch of she-trolls. 733654;1403786490;punkman;it's trollari in greek too 733655;1403786500;mircea_popescu;that's gypsy and verbal. 733656;1403786505;mircea_popescu;;;google polari 733657;1403786505;gribble;Polari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; aGLIFF Film Festival: aGLIFF Festival | aGLIFF - Polari: ; Polari - British gay slang - Chris-d.net: 733658;1403786610;mircea_popescu;but yeah, you can have a whole language out of applying romanian grammar to english lexemes 733659;1403786662;mircea_popescu;dar da, poti haza o whoala limba din aplicarea grammarei romane pe lexeme englezesti. 733660;1403786672;mircea_popescu;it's even shorter, definitely lulzier 733661;1403786764;mircea_popescu; I wonder if community manager is ever a real job. I've only seen interns do it << it's generally what you hire slaves under training collars to do as their first thing. 733662;1403786819;pankkake;intern, slave, what's the difference? :) 733663;1403786868;mircea_popescu;slave gets laid. 733664;1403786892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00082018 = 25.3436 BTC [-] {3} 733665;1403786895;mircea_popescu;;;ud training collar 733666;1403786896;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=traing%20collar | ... Training Day · Training Day'd · Training Day-ed · training film · Training for the Olympics · training heels · Training Issue · Training it ... traing collar isn't defined. 733667;1403786921;mircea_popescu;lol such innocence. 733668;1403786928;pankkake;that's not really slang 733669;1403786951;mircea_popescu;yeah, it is. 733670;1403787058;pankkake;great, France just approved a law where books are more expensive if bought online 733671;1403787061;BingoBoingo;Technical jargon 733672;1403787123;pankkake;because how dare you buy your books outside of crappy stores with no choice 733673;1403787135;ThickAsThieves;fee market 733674;1403787158;mircea_popescu;i find it very amusing that france, one of the most socialist places in the history of the world, 733675;1403787159;pankkake;not that it will change in any way how I shop. more money for amazon in the end… lol 733676;1403787166;mircea_popescu;is actually also one of the most rabidly conservative. 733677;1403787195;pankkake;that's what I tell my fellow Frenchmen. the right is fairly popular, but also fairly socialist 733678;1403787226;pankkake;and the French are clearly afraid of everything 733679;1403787240;mircea_popescu;it's almost as if they regret 1984 isn't a thing. either as depicted in fiction or as enacted by the soviets, they want the dull gray concrete damn it 733680;1403787291;pankkake;protect us from Anglo-Saxon culture, homosexuals and the free market, etc. 733681;1403787333;pankkake;and immigrants, how could I forget 733682;1403787353;ThickAsThieves;"PAMM technology allows a trader to open a "Slave" Account and follow a trading strategy of another professional and experienced bitcoin trader (Master)." "Using PAMM Account rating, charts and feedback from other traders you can easily tackle the tough task of selecting a successful and professional Master to follow." ~BTC-e 733683;1403787359;pankkake;(despite the majority of immigrants being white people from the EU) 733684;1403787394;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: OMG really? I love it 733685;1403787396;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves "how to select a losing strategy out of an array of moves made by people who opveral made money" 733686;1403787410;pankkake;but they used Slave and Master 733687;1403787417;pankkake;maybe they code in Django and are upset 733688;1403787421;mircea_popescu;lol 733689;1403787435;Azelphur;oh god not the slave and master thing again 733690;1403787437;*;Azelphur facedesks 733691;1403787465;mircea_popescu;"at this company we have a strict insulting variablespace policy. all functions are to be named in reference of parts of female anatomy. all variables are to be named in reference of parts of male anatomy." 733692;1403787473;ThickAsThieves;So the manipulators on BTC-e dont even need to schedule pumps anymore 733693;1403787479;mircea_popescu;cunt(dick,balls,shithole); 733694;1403787550;pankkake;it's how most developers I know write test code 733695;1403787588;Azelphur;the annoying part is that master and slave have been around since the dawn of time, it's a technical term and you can't just go write random bullshit, this is what people don't seem to get 733696;1403787611;mircea_popescu;Azelphur i beg your pardon ? they have changed the world! 733697;1403787613;Azelphur;If you say "set the jumpers on that drive to replica" nobody has a fuckin clue what you are on about 733698;1403787624;Azelphur;mircea_popescu: haha, indeed *facedesk* 733699;1403787630;mircea_popescu;you just don't understand progress. 733700;1403787637;Azelphur;clearly ;) 733701;1403787638;pankkake;especially since it would be wrong to say replica then! 733702;1403787648;Azelphur;pankkake: exactly, haha 733703;1403787654;mircea_popescu;pankkake maybe we should start doing this preemptively. 733704;1403787665;mircea_popescu;start calling stupid bitches "replicas". like you know, knockoff watches. 733705;1403787677;Azelphur;hahaha 733706;1403787679;pankkake;you already called developers fungible :( 733707;1403787687;mircea_popescu;works incredibly well you know ? schmuck comes in here to mouth off xmj style crap, "replica, please!" 733708;1403787695;pankkake;lol 733709;1403787704;chetty;hmm so what do we call stupid bastards ...there are more of them ya know 733710;1403787720;mircea_popescu;hm 733711;1403787739;mircea_popescu;need something that doesn't end in a thus tickling my expectation it's a feminine romanian noun. 733712;1403787830;*;Azelphur just ordered a LG G Watch \o/ 733713;1403787835;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2955z7/who_the_fuck_sent_108_btc_to_the_correct_horse/ < rofl 733714;1403787835;assbot;who the fuck sent 10.8 BTC to the "correct horse battery staple" brainwallet? : Bitcoin 733715;1403787873;BingoBoingo;chetty: You call the stupid dudes basic bitches 733716;1403787971;ThickAsThieves;replicunt 733717;1403788004;ThickAsThieves;http://www.moviefancentral.com/images/pictures/review74591/blade.jpg?1337623625 733718;1403788179;xmj;i love mircea_popescu 733719;1403788183;xmj;he's really pleasant. 733720;1403788188;xmj;<3 733721;1403788191;ThickAsThieves;Convicted Heavy Metal ‘Christian’ Singer Admits Being Atheist, Duped Fans to Sell Music 733722;1403788208;ThickAsThieves;(As I Lay Dying) 733723;1403788405;BingoBoingo;http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/25/bitbeat-why-bitcoins-scoring-goals-in-argentina/ 733724;1403788406;assbot;BitBeat: Why Bitcoin’s Scoring in Argentina - MoneyBeat - WSJ 733725;1403788722;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.045 = 0.81 BTC [-] 733726;1403789040;Duffer1;someone duped a zealot in order to sell something 733727;1403789048;Duffer1;i'm shocked 733728;1403789210;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.0408204 = 23.4717 BTC [-] {16} 733729;1403789271;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 135 @ 0.0401001 = 5.4135 BTC [-] {5} 733730;1403789287;BigBitz;!up up up! :) 733731;1403789474;chetty;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/hospitals-soon-see-donuts-to-cigarette-charges-for-health.html 733732;1403789474;assbot;Hospitals Soon See Donuts-to-Cigarette Charges for Health - Bloomberg 733733;1403789772;chetty;not unexpected, but its still creepy 733734;1403790091;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ << request for arguments. 733735;1403790092;assbot;The problem of enforcement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 733736;1403790140;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/26/dogecoin-and-dystopia/ 733737;1403790186;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.00081968 = 30.4101 BTC [-] 733738;1403790298;mircea_popescu;o look, pantera and silbert are actually making sane investments. 733739;1403790370;ThickAsThieves;i wonder if i'm the guy who had the same trilema credits hash or whatever as someone else 733740;1403790403;ThickAsThieves;my cookie didnt work for a few days, then it did, but now i only have 4 credits left, or maybe thats' just the guest credits 733741;1403790410;pankkake;it's the guest credits 733742;1403790414;ThickAsThieves;and i need to reinitiate my cookie 733743;1403790418;mircea_popescu;sounds like the guest. put your cookie back in. 733744;1403790431;ThickAsThieves;word 733745;1403790443;mircea_popescu;the collision was, some guy made an order, trilema came back "pay x". he didn't. months later, other guy made order, trilema said "pay x" same x. 733746;1403790449;mircea_popescu;has nothing to do with cookies or such 733747;1403791164;moiety;mew 733748;1403791188;ThickAsThieves;So to distill your post, are you saying that we give up freedom for i-cant-believe-its-not-freedom because it's easy/comfortable/safe and now you want some real-butter IRC because you tasted real-butter bitcoin? Or are you just pointing out that people typically think they are more free than they really are (or, at least, willing to acknowlege). 733749;1403791212;mircea_popescu;im pointing out that now it just became cheaper to have actual freedom 733750;1403791222;mircea_popescu;and so irrespective of anyone's wish, that's what we'll do. 733751;1403791224;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ 733752;1403791264;moiety;ThickAsThieves: I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? << totally can't pinpoint exactly. in one breath they say it's their fee, in the next it's the banks but i've never had fees from my bank for incoming before. lesson learned. 733753;1403791309;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves to round out this point, do you know how justice worked in classical greece ? 733754;1403791348;ThickAsThieves;maybe i used to, now i just know what i see in movies 733755;1403791395;ThickAsThieves;if freedom is cheaper, isn't it also less valuable? 733756;1403791431;mircea_popescu;well basically, anyone having a problem with someone could sue before the city. the arguments reduced to "the other party sucks". if the suit was successful the other party was banished (killed, originally, but then they softened). 733757;1403791433;ThickAsThieves;like maybe it's just incantbelieveitsnotfreedom, just in a bigger box 733758;1403791435;mircea_popescu;if not, the accuser was. 733759;1403791463;ThickAsThieves;so each had equal risk 733760;1403791470;mircea_popescu;now contrast this with the very invasive modern style, as epitomised by the us system : you're allowed out of prison as long as you promise to not x y z 733761;1403791475;chetty;the counter party risk is something we really need 733762;1403791478;mircea_popescu;there's this constant negotiation and apportioning of things. 733763;1403791486;mircea_popescu;the greeks didn't have it. it was an all or nothing affair. 733764;1403791499;ThickAsThieves;except it surely wasnt for everyone 733765;1403791499;mircea_popescu;either you sue this guy under the title that he's basiclaly human waste, 733766;1403791501;mircea_popescu;or else stfu 733767;1403791525;mircea_popescu;whereas in english law you had a billion different causes for action. you can sue saying "this is a nice guy that has my cow" 733768;1403791529;ThickAsThieves;surely some bribed and pulled strings and framed people 733769;1403791533;mircea_popescu;surely. 733770;1403791550;mircea_popescu;famously plato tried to bribe the jury with 30 minae in socrates' case 733771;1403791554;mircea_popescu;this, in open court., 733772;1403791599;mircea_popescu;(amusingly, 30 minae is also what neaira's ass cost. 733773;1403791675;mircea_popescu;anyway. it's my understanding that it's that apportioning that's the cause of evil. 733774;1403791694;mircea_popescu;just like an artisan is exactly NOT the guy who has a three ring binder telling him how to move and what shovel to use when, as per company policy 733775;1403791724;mircea_popescu;a free man is exactly NOT the guy who has to make a deal as to anything with anyone. none of this "to fly on the plane you must turn off your portable perfume dispenser" bs. 733776;1403791885;ThickAsThieves;while i dont disagree, it does kinda feeling we're just bitching that liars and scammers exist 733777;1403791920;mircea_popescu;how so ? 733778;1403791945;ThickAsThieves;well you are arguing for transparency, truth, efficiency, "realness" 733779;1403791973;mircea_popescu;notrly. 733780;1403791973;ThickAsThieves;opposed to compromise, deception, obfuscation 733781;1403791980;mircea_popescu;i dun think so. 733782;1403791987;chetty;The court said Thursday that President Barack Obama exceeded his authority when he invoked the Constitution's provision on recess appointments to fill slots on the National Labor Relations Board in 2012. 733783;1403792013;chetty;ThickAsThieves, truth is cheaper 733784;1403792040;ThickAsThieves;not emotionally, in installments 733785;1403792075;chetty;ThickAsThieves, well it grows on you :) 733786;1403792087;mircea_popescu;where's that hobbes quote about how everyone's life is basically the result of surrender to the state, which may at its option dispose of it ? thus everyone's a slave ? 733787;1403792106;mircea_popescu;fundamentally, it used to be cheaper to surrender, now it's cheaper to not. fundamental change of paradigm 733788;1403792107;ThickAsThieves;some seek comfort, some seek truth 733789;1403792142;ThickAsThieves;i kinda think it's all just smelling of roses 733790;1403792152;ThickAsThieves;observing the ebb and flow of necessity and invention 733791;1403792156;ThickAsThieves;order and chaos 733792;1403792186;Vexual;i ordered braised rabbit 733793;1403792215;ThickAsThieves;like your barbarian story 733794;1403792221;ThickAsThieves;and how i ended it differently 733795;1403792224;ThickAsThieves;same shit 733796;1403792248;mircea_popescu;doesn't seem too related. 733797;1403792313;ThickAsThieves;zoomed out, it does to me 733798;1403792417;ThickAsThieves;maybe it took the bullshit of our current state for someone to inspire to create Bitcoin, in turn, maybe you are the next Hitler 733799;1403792439;ThickAsThieves;and you'll inspire someone to dismantle you 733800;1403792440;ThickAsThieves;etc 733801;1403792472;mircea_popescu;the problem with being hitler is that you can actually reach this point where you've read too much to be one. 733802;1403792479;mircea_popescu;in general it happens in highschool. 733803;1403792494;ThickAsThieves;i mean it in a more black swan kinda way i guess 733804;1403792501;ThickAsThieves;you wont be hitler 733805;1403792505;ThickAsThieves;youll be Popescu 733806;1403792557;mircea_popescu;even so 733807;1403792564;chetty;the cycles will go around, probably wont be MP but hitler will come again, someday 733808;1403792580;ThickAsThieves;right 733809;1403792623;ThickAsThieves;maybe your vision for the world has horrible implications 733810;1403792634;ThickAsThieves;and someone needs to come along and fix it after youve gotten your way 733811;1403792667;pankkake;I see plenty of potential Hitlers 733812;1403792687;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00081941 = 11.7585 BTC [-] {2} 733813;1403792696;ThickAsThieves;has the topic of this NK comedy movie been brought up here? 733814;1403792717;ThickAsThieves;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/north-korea-threatens-to-wage-war-on-usa-over-seth-rogen-and-james-francos-kim-jongun-assassination-film-9562426.html 733815;1403792717;assbot;North Korea threatens war on USA over 'gangster filmmaker' Seth Rogen and James Francos Kim Jong-un assassination movie - People - News - The Independent 733816;1403792734;ThickAsThieves;Government warns of 'merciless' retaliation if US doesn't ban the actors' comedy 733817;1403792735;mircea_popescu;hm, i dun has a vision. what am i, some sort of reformer ? 733818;1403792743;mircea_popescu;i'm an intellectual, and therefore a critic. 733819;1403792751;ThickAsThieves;dont sell yourself short 733820;1403792757;ThickAsThieves;youre building something and you know it 733821;1403792831;mircea_popescu;yeah, tools to break things with. 733822;1403792994;chetty;long live the breakage 733823;1403793039;ThickAsThieves;wasnt S.WOL sposed to fire yesterday? 733824;1403793064;mircea_popescu;Vexual: is your scooter okay? <<< ahahaha such zing. 733825;1403793087;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves yeah i guess so huh! 733826;1403793094;mircea_popescu;mike_c hows teh bitcoin side ? 733827;1403793117;thestringpuller;;;seen nubbins` 733828;1403793117;gribble;nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif 733829;1403793154;thestringpuller;;;later tell nubbins` You got a hook up on printing cardboard cutouts? 733830;1403793154;gribble;The operation succeeded. 733831;1403793197;mircea_popescu;pankkake: wait you can buy F.DERP too? << yeah, next month 733832;1403793213;mircea_popescu;moiety sounds like you got charged a wire fee 733833;1403793231;mike_c;bitcoin side almost done. expect to ship it tmw. 733834;1403793246;mircea_popescu;what's that, two weeks ? 733835;1403793249;mircea_popescu;there you go tat. 733836;1403793307;ThickAsThieves;hmm 733837;1403793310;ThickAsThieves;i meant the ipo 733838;1403793315;ThickAsThieves;says 6/25 733839;1403793353;mircea_popescu;well it listed on the 25th 733840;1403793397;ThickAsThieves;"War of Life will offer one block of 500`000 (five hundred thousand) shares for a nominal value of 0.00003 BTC each, for a total equity value of 15 BTC starting on June 25th, 2014." 733841;1403793402;ThickAsThieves;i see no block 733842;1403793450;mircea_popescu;well it's not done it before the 25th, so there we go :D 733843;1403793469;ThickAsThieves;lol 733844;1403793486;ThickAsThieves;i'm still confused, but whatever 733845;1403793488;mircea_popescu;i must be a native asshole the way i phrase these things, i had fully intended it be done yest, but look that it actually supports eventual reality. 733846;1403793491;moiety;D; was my passport money! another day, another lesson though right :] 733847;1403793504;ThickAsThieves;scamz 733848;1403793507;mircea_popescu;anyway, the story is, was gonna do it yest but wanted to have bitcoin active so waiting a little for mike. 733849;1403793515;mircea_popescu;i see no real downside in holding it back a day or w/e 733850;1403793532;ThickAsThieves;other than not doing what you said 733851;1403793538;ThickAsThieves;in writing 733852;1403793555;mircea_popescu;other than not doing what i had intended / you thought i said! what i actually said however, is starting on. 733853;1403793563;ThickAsThieves;... 733854;1403793567;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/anonibet-talks-bitcoin-foundation-membership-world-cup-contest/ " company decided to formally support the Bitcoin Foundation" 733855;1403793567;assbot;Anonibet Talks Bitcoin Foundation Membership, World Cup Contest 733856;1403793587;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it's like, "tvs from 59.99". doesn't mean any tv in the shop is 60 bux 733857;1403793595;ThickAsThieves;cmon now 733858;1403793599;mircea_popescu;noh! 733859;1403793615;ThickAsThieves;dis nigga all coy 733860;1403793630;mircea_popescu;pankkake look at that lol. 733861;1403793644;mircea_popescu;if im supposed to be butthurt i'm not vessy boy. 733862;1403793679;BingoBoingo;;;lasers 733863;1403793679;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 733864;1403793727;ThickAsThieves;the difference with not firing the ipo when you said you would is i gotta spend more time watching the orderbook to get in, which i suppose could be your plan, letting bids swell 733865;1403793737;chetty;omg, MP got a date wrong, hang him 733866;1403793745;mircea_popescu;you can just put a bid in for your price neh ? 733867;1403793760;ThickAsThieves;and then a day later my price is below needed? 733868;1403793768;mircea_popescu;holy shit that thing's full. 733869;1403793783;ThickAsThieves;lol 733870;1403793790;ThickAsThieves;hey mp, you have a stock exchange 733871;1403793793;ThickAsThieves;just reminding you! 733872;1403793795;mircea_popescu;i had no idea lol. 733873;1403793818;mircea_popescu;ok, sorry everyone! the order shall fire at, lemme see here 733874;1403793869;thestringpuller;;;lasers 733875;1403793869;gribble;┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* 733876;1403794157;mircea_popescu;1403821800 aka GMT: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:30:00 GMT 733877;1403794270;moiety;picture of the day: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me1y3zAjfV1qm0kmzo1_500.jpg 733878;1403794293;chetty;non-bitcoin scams: Bloomberg reports that Chinas chief auditor discovered 94.4 billion yuan ($15.2 billion) of loans backed by falsified gold transactions 733879;1403794464;ThickAsThieves;thx mp 733880;1403794468;mircea_popescu;obviously there's no reason to distrust new york. 733881;1403794472;mircea_popescu;or how did that go 733882;1403794481;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves ma pleasure rly. 733883;1403794490;ThickAsThieves;so now maybe a good time to buy gold 733884;1403794575;pankkake;;;bc,xau 733885;1403794578;gribble;1 XAU = 1315.500000000000 USD = 2.31598035246 BTC 733886;1403794615;Duffer1;isn't there a bitbet it'll close at under 1k by the end of the year? 733887;1403794626;ThickAsThieves;i'll take that bet that it wont 733888;1403794654;ThickAsThieves;i was trying to chart BRK.B today because of the new bitbet, it's well-priced 733889;1403794656;Duffer1;you probably wouldn't win very much :P 733890;1403794662;mircea_popescu;artifexd can []bot take a search and return the result from bitbet ? 733891;1403794706;ThickAsThieves;BRK.B shareprice just hit the top of a longterm channel, but it's a steep one so it could get to $135 still 733892;1403794787;Duffer1;what do you think of tesla closing at 250+ ? 733893;1403794872;ThickAsThieves;pretty likely 733894;1403794887;ThickAsThieves;people are musk-wild right now 733895;1403794920;Duffer1;it's not unfounded 733896;1403794920;ThickAsThieves;a new batch of people discovered he has a solar co too, so that exploded upward too 733897;1403794930;ThickAsThieves;longterm, sure 733898;1403794939;pankkake;is he the new steve jobs? 733899;1403794946;Duffer1;steve was a twat 733900;1403794948;ThickAsThieves;nah 733901;1403794955;ThickAsThieves;he doesnt care about consumers like jobs 733902;1403794961;pankkake;lol 733903;1403794966;pankkake;care, as in fuck? 733904;1403794978;ThickAsThieves;pretty much yeah 733905;1403795006;ThickAsThieves;i didnt mean care "for" that's for sure 733906;1403795049;Duffer1;i like the nature of elons projects 733907;1403795054;ThickAsThieves;but similar in that he's doing what makes sense to him and fuck otherwise 733908;1403795055;Duffer1;space and renewables 733909;1403795096;ThickAsThieves;but i think TSLA can be had at cheaper prices as all 733910;1403795115;ThickAsThieves;is all* 733911;1403795120;Duffer1;i agree 733912;1403795138;Duffer1;by the time i'm even aware of an offer the speculators have driven price beyond all reason 733913;1403795165;ThickAsThieves;just like altcoins 733914;1403795169;ThickAsThieves;hehe 733915;1403795173;ThickAsThieves;and 733916;1403795177;ThickAsThieves;thats how they git ya! 733917;1403795253;Duffer1;maxcoin lol... 733918;1403795326;ThickAsThieves;MaxCoin $ 810,048 $ 0.035170 23,032,368 MAX 733919;1403795336;pankkake;I got banned from /r/litecoin, and before that had posts stealth-deleted. they're bagholding so hard! 733920;1403795359;Duffer1;800k market cap my bleeding arsehole 733921;1403795371;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00082107 = 12.8908 BTC [+] 733922;1403795386;pankkake;it's the power of asshole pumping 733923;1403795388;Duffer1;there's only 18.4 btc buys on mcxnow 733924;1403795408;ThickAsThieves;my guess is you can squeeze out about 10% of an altcoins market cap if you sell no faster than 10% of the time it's existed 733925;1403795475;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Gold <= 1000 USD in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/785/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.77957601 BTC. Current weight: 60,446. 733926;1403795487;Duffer1;hehe 733927;1403795490;ThickAsThieves;:) 733928;1403795524;Duffer1;i'm not a gambler, but that one doesn't seem like a risk at all 733929;1403795635;pankkake;now I want to bet yes :p 733930;1403795644;pankkake;didn't gold go from 2000 to 1something some year ago? 733931;1403795684;pankkake;I unfortunately bought gold just before 733932;1403795691;Apocalyptic;It did 733933;1403795734;Duffer1;ouch 733934;1403795736;ThickAsThieves;it hit a little under 1200 in the past year 733935;1403795743;ThickAsThieves;i think that was bottom 733936;1403796923;pankkake;http://www.coindesk.com/government-sale-bitcoin-establishes-fungibility-precedent/ Regardless of the morality of pre-trial asset forfeiture, the sale via auction of approximately $17 million worth of bitcoin by the USMS will establish the first governmental precedent for bitcoin fungibility, which could become significant for future bitcoin-related cases involving ‘blacklisting’, or ‘tainted bitcoin’. 733937;1403796923;assbot;Government Sale of Bitcoin Establishes Fungibility Precedent 733938;1403797055;ThickAsThieves;http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/ 733939;1403797056;assbot;The Bitcoin Economy's 'Backbone' Is Bitstamp, An Exchange Run By Two Young Slovenians - Forbes 733940;1403797116;pankkake;wait their lanyards say "fucking amazing" 733941;1403797116;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 733942;1403797344;kakobrekla;>“We’re the backbone of the entire Bitcoin industry,” says Kodrič, 25, who’s wearing a black t-shirt with “Zero Excuses” in fluorescent green capital letters. 733943;1403797345;kakobrekla;lmao 733944;1403797398;ThickAsThieves;kako why arent you in the picture? 733945;1403797413;kakobrekla;who is kako? 733946;1403797419;ThickAsThieves;some dude 733947;1403797425;kakobrekla;some schmuck 733948;1403797641;Duffer1;good lord 733949;1403798155;moiety;he won't even allow his reflection to be snapped :P 733950;1403798187;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/06/26/summary-26-may-25-june/ 733951;1403798273;kakobrekla;i see you are kept busy moiety - gg 733952;1403798339;moiety;thanks. i hope it's enough. i was trying to be as connected as possible over the move. 733953;1403798422;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79952895 BTC to 9`635 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 733954;1403798469;kakobrekla;thats prolly more phonecalls than i had in a year 733955;1403798542;moiety;lol me too normally XD 733956;1403799391;thestringpuller;http://dogeon.org/ 733957;1403799391;assbot;DSON - Doge Serialized Object Notation 733958;1403799431;*;moiety is becoming allergic to anything doge - can't click 733959;1403799449;thestringpuller;it may give you a seizure in sex weeks 733960;1403799471;moiety;bahahaha omg just took a drink, coffee everywhere 733961;1403800144;benkay; it just doesn't pay. // how is this not a default? am i missing the sarcasm? 733962;1403800153;benkay;pf nvm okay 733963;1403800251;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19494037 = 1.9494 BTC [+] {5} 733964;1403800557;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04397947 = 1.0995 BTC [+] {2} 733965;1403801587;BingoBoingo;moiety: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/26/dogecoin-and-dystopia/ 733966;1403801587;assbot;DogeCoin and Dystopia | Bingo Blog 733967;1403801768;pankkake;thestringpuller: with the url, I was thinking "this may be a json like doge but that's such a silly thing why do I even think about that" 733968;1403801803;pankkake;I love it. it has a bunch of libs too 733969;1403802366;punkman;26-06-2014 Pending More YES than NO on this bet 733970;1403802368;punkman;lol 733971;1403802443;kakobrekla;has been tried on numerous occasions, never was or will be accepted 733972;1403802481;moiety;BingoBoingo: perfect 733973;1403802529;BingoBoingo;moiety: You didn't watch the horror video did you? 733974;1403802557;moiety;i've banned myself from streaming but its only 35 so will do now 733975;1403802624;moiety;jesus christ is the dogers in lego form 733976;1403802628;BingoBoingo;I recommend against watching it if you enjoy your eyes and ears 733977;1403802642;moiety;<< already scarred 733978;1403802662;moiety;why the fuck have people been telling me this movie is good? 733979;1403802738;BingoBoingo;moiety: Because you run a dogecoin cam site on the side? 733980;1403802771;BingoBoingo;Or did you take that cam thing out 733981;1403802936;BingoBoingo;%diff 733982;1403802938;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 395074.76 in 1754 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -22.76 733983;1403802996;moiety;nah it's still there. I had to make them a dedicated room for cam spam. 733984;1403803031;ThickAsThieves;i watched half of the lego movie in a flight 733985;1403803037;ThickAsThieves;it's kids stuff 733986;1403803050;ThickAsThieves;the everything is awesome song is pretty awesome tho 733987;1403803050;moiety;half? did you try to exit the plane half way? 733988;1403803051;ThickAsThieves;of course 733989;1403803063;ThickAsThieves;no, i ran out of other things i felt like doing 733990;1403803071;ThickAsThieves;so picked up the movie halfway in 733991;1403803089;ThickAsThieves;it was one of those shitty systems where you cant initiate a movie from anytime you want 733992;1403803118;moiety;do you really wish you had seen it form the start? 35 seconds was enough for me to want to peel my own skin off 733993;1403803134;ThickAsThieves;no i have no desire to go back and see what i missed 733994;1403803147;BingoBoingo;It really is the worst socialist propoganda I've been exposed to. 733995;1403803148;ThickAsThieves;the only thing worth taking from the movie is that song 733996;1403803157;ThickAsThieves;cuz it's so ridiculous that i like it 733997;1403803170;moiety;i can now thank BB for two of the most awful things i have ever seen and cannot unsee 733998;1403803188;BingoBoingo;$36 coffee? 733999;1403803233;ThickAsThieves;the song is sorta like AMAZING COMPANY 734000;1403803240;ThickAsThieves;EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! 734001;1403803634;[]bot;Bet created: "Bank of England to raise Bank Rate before February" http://bitbet.us/bet/968/ 734002;1403803716;moiety;jesus they can't be helped: "i need an online wallet" "don't use an online wallet, use dropbox!" *facedesk* 734003;1403803720;pankkake;from 11 to 0.5, lol 734004;1403803776;moiety;BingoBoingo: first sharpie bum boy, now lego scarring, don't make it a hattrick please. i value my sanity. 734005;1403803808;pankkake;moiety: encrypted wallet.dat on dropbox is certainly more secure - actually I can't find any drawback in terms of security or privacy 734006;1403803809;BingoBoingo;lol 734007;1403803820;pankkake;not that I would recommend it 734008;1403803840;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Well other than the frequent dropbox security breaches let everyone know you have a wallet.dat 734009;1403803842;moiety;just no to dropbox out of principle 734010;1403803865;BingoBoingo;OMG the better alternative to CoinBase died http://valleywag.gawker.com/the-laundry-quarters-startup-is-dead-1596481798/+laceydonohue 734011;1403803865;assbot;The Laundry Quarters Delivery Startup Is Dead (And in Hell?) 734012;1403803868;pankkake;oh, I hate dropbox, I consider that everything you put there is public 734013;1403803896;moiety;dropbox: so insecure we wrote a paper to prove it 734014;1403803934;pankkake;BingoBoingo: at least they decided to end it early 734015;1403803965;BingoBoingo;The comments are the best "I admire their "give up" attitude." "Not enoug people give up" 734016;1403804001;BingoBoingo;!up MobGod 734017;1403804073;pankkake;BingoBoingo: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2014/02/fail-faster.html (I thought I linked this here before, but perhaps only in a blog comment) 734018;1403804074;assbot;Overcoming Bias : Fail Faster 734019;1403804150;punkman;;;buy 10000 ATC @ 0.02 BTC 734020;1403804151;gribble;Order id 20898 created. 734021;1403804279;pankkake;that 2 BTC sports bet rule is harsh 734022;1403804283;BingoBoingo;%book 734023;1403804284;atcbot;65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 734024;1403804300;BingoBoingo;But Bitbet had to stop the bleeding 734025;1403804421;pankkake;understandable, just saying there might be less expensive solutions 734026;1403804441;pankkake;I don't bet on sports, I would bet on starcraft but I ended up being the only one (and losing) 734027;1403804521;BingoBoingo;I don't think any of the line books that tried e-stuff were able to keep it up 734028;1403804679;ThickAsThieves;<+pankkake> I don't bet on sports, I would bet on starcraft but I ended up being the only one (and losing) /// it's kinda surprising how little Bitcoin has penatrated the gamer community 734029;1403804692;ThickAsThieves;penetrated* 734030;1403804711;pankkake;perhaps because gamers seldom penetrate (ha ha!) 734031;1403804716;ThickAsThieves;i'd totally bet on single Dota 2 games 734032;1403804724;ThickAsThieves;that i could play in with friends 734033;1403804725;thestringpuller;nerds 734034;1403804729;pankkake;but anyway, gamers were mining quite early, but perhaps they sold early too 734035;1403804759;jborkl;Hi, got your message thestringpuller 734036;1403804766;ThickAsThieves;gamers/programmers, not gamers/woot customers 734037;1403804784;pankkake;but yeah I don't get it 734038;1403804811;ThickAsThieves;twitch.com taking bitcoin might help 734039;1403804816;jborkl;I think in Korea Starcraft betting was popular 734040;1403804832;ThickAsThieves;or Steam using bitcoin 734041;1403804858;pankkake;I don't use steam but I often see gift codes for sale in btc 734042;1403804941;jborkl;thestringpuller : Thank you also 734043;1403804952;ThickAsThieves;http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/26/5845930/google-turns-on-its-crazy-modular-phone-in-public-for-the-first-time 734044;1403804953;assbot;Google turns on its crazy modular phone in public for the first time | The Verge 734045;1403804959;ThickAsThieves;it's like a PC, but inside out! 734046;1403805100;ThickAsThieves;as the GoPro IPO was today 734047;1403805146;pankkake;I'm not sure the concept will ever be practical but I'd really like it. that's why I like full grown PCs 734048;1403805159;pankkake;I don't have to find the best compromise, I just have the best 734049;1403805212;ThickAsThieves;The stock was priced near the top of its range at $24 a share and quickly rose to $30 in early trading, meaning the company is worth a little more than $3 billion. 734050;1403805254;pankkake;only 3 instagrams 734051;1403805611;FabianB;$traded 734052;1403805612;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE 734053;1403805902;moiety;i wish steam would accept btc 734054;1403805932;moiety;i do like steam, must admit 734055;1403806029;kakobrekla;hahahah 734056;1403806030;kakobrekla;>I'm not unable. I'm unwilling. There is a difference. I won't bother you with details of licenses and fiduciary duties, blah, blah, blah... Instead I will just say that any recommendation I gave could be viewed as a conflict of interest due to my affiliation with something that could be irrationally misconstrued as a security. Therefore, I am not willing to give you a recommendation on a specific investment, only to educate you so th 734057;1403806030;kakobrekla;may be better prepared to choose one for yourself. 734058;1403806034;kakobrekla;gold. 734059;1403806040;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-1-bitcoin-mining-network-difficulty/ 734060;1403806063;kakobrekla;>due to my affiliation with something that could be irrationally misconstrued as a security < got that shit right. 734061;1403806116;mike_c;you arguing on tardtalk again? 734062;1403806127;kakobrekla;no was banned 3 times, jus readin 734063;1403806156;kakobrekla;best place for humor 734064;1403806174;mike_c;that did sound funny. link? 734065;1403806192;kakobrekla;hm lemme try find 734066;1403806216;kakobrekla;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.msg7518740#msg7518740 734067;1403806217;assbot;Why Do You Invest? 734068;1403806218;kakobrekla;thar 734069;1403806225;BingoBoingo;Wonder when this sort of scam is finding bitcoin? http://carbondaletimes.com/051614habitat 734070;1403806227;assbot;Jury indicts Campus Habitat owner | Carbondale Times 734071;1403806283;BingoBoingo;Dude buys thing, then buys thing again from himself 734072;1403806297;mike_c;hah. that is humor. "At first I started investing in these things because I thought I was actually helping the bitcoin ecosystem. It turns out I've been helping the twat-waffles of the bitcoin ecosystem." 734073;1403806321;kakobrekla;:) 734074;1403806327;mike_c;i don't know what a twat-waffle is, but he sounds right to me. 734075;1403806339;kakobrekla;lol 734076;1403806503;mike_c;!t h smg 734077;1403806503;assbot;[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00004912 / 4.92E-5 / 0.00005000 (1100 shares, 0.05412084 BTC), 7D: 0.00004912 / 4.931E-5 / 0.00005016 (1340 shares, 0.06607088 BTC), 30D: 0.00004000 / 5.6E-5 / 0.00007570 (15620 shares, 0.87466372 BTC) 734078;1403806534;mike_c;;;calc 0.00004912 / 0.000091 734079;1403806534;gribble;0.53978021978 734080;1403806551;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/29313f/why_do_you_invest/ for more lulz. I mean, there's a clear objective demonstration that investing on havelock is a pretty sure loss, and they… ignore it 734081;1403806552;assbot;Why Do You Invest? : BitcoinStocks 734082;1403806567;mike_c;havelock share of s.mg is worth 54% of a mpex share of s.mg. 734083;1403806577;thestringpuller;LOL 734084;1403806586;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0P6WE32.txt ) 734085;1403806586;thestringpuller;!bash 5 734086;1403806717;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04397982 = 0.8796 BTC [+] 734087;1403806778;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00082511 = 6.0233 BTC [+] 734088;1403806832;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/if-youre-one-of-the-numerous-buenos-aires-printing-shops-ill-be-harassing-over-the-day/ << i got my cards. 734089;1403806833;assbot;If you’re one of the numerous Buenos Aires printing shops I’ll be harassing over the day pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 734090;1403806881;mike_c;pic? 734091;1403806901;mircea_popescu;ya sec adding a detailed one 734092;1403806940;mircea_popescu;there we go 734093;1403806983;punkman;no pink? 734094;1403806999;Mats_cd03;;;ident mircea_popescu 734095;1403806999;gribble;Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None 734096;1403807000;mircea_popescu;sadly. 734097;1403807008;mircea_popescu;i don;t think they have cunts in this cuntry. 734098;1403807010;Mats_cd03;a makes sense now 734099;1403807085;mircea_popescu;http://itraveleasy.com/bitcoins-most-controversial-startup/ < who;s this ? 734100;1403807086;assbot;Bitcoin’s Most Controversial Startup | I Travel Easy 734101;1403807198;mike_c;you know what makes an article easier to read? italicizing the entire thing. 734102;1403807327;mircea_popescu;that and comic m 734103;1403807328;mircea_popescu;s 734104;1403807346;chetty;that is like the like worst article evea 734105;1403807496;ThickAsThieves;pff ya lambchop just pretending xbond didnt exist 734106;1403807502;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: i think that was bottom < something like that 734107;1403807513;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves what was total volume on it ? 734108;1403807520;ThickAsThieves;xbond? 734109;1403807521;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: PMed him. we'll see 734110;1403807534;ThickAsThieves;2000btc sold i think 734111;1403807534;pankkake;that article looks like a spambot creation 734112;1403807556;ThickAsThieves;i'd have to look it up, my memory is shit 734113;1403807559;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: >“We’re the backbone of the entire Bitcoin industry,” says Kodrič, 25, who’s wearing a black t-shirt with “Zero Excuses” in fluorescent green capital letters. <<< ahahaha epic 734114;1403807596;punkman;shouldn't that say "CANS + STRING" 734115;1403807607;punkman;maybe another tshirt for nubbins to print 734116;1403807618;mircea_popescu;moiety http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/06/26/summary-26-may-25-june/ << pretty cool. 734117;1403807619;assbot;Summary 26 May-25 June | #Bitcoin-Assets Reception 734118;1403807635;BingoBoingo;#BITCOIN-ASSETS: All Cans, No String 734119;1403807669;ThickAsThieves;a set of shirts, where one shirt has a can and half a string, and the other shirt has the other can 734120;1403807688;moiety;:D sorry it was such a long time span 734121;1403807736;pankkake;http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Thongs-6.jpg <= a can and a string, #bitcoin-assets style 734122;1403807738;mike_c;heh. or one can on front, one on back, string wraps around your side. 734123;1403807739;mircea_popescu;benkay just ftr i based your sarcasm :D 734124;1403807747;moiety;i wouldve like nubbins` to print a top with #bitcoin lower back and then wee shorts with -assets on the arse 734125;1403807757;mircea_popescu;mike_c ah, my sides. 734126;1403807758;ThickAsThieves;<+BingoBoingo> #BITCOIN-ASSETS: All Cans, No String /// sounds like a slogan for strip joint 734127;1403807769;mircea_popescu;that'd be all jugs no strings 734128;1403807841;ThickAsThieves;hilarious, now media says SELL! "Barclays has given Netflix an Underweight rating, with a price target of $390, which is around 11% lower than its current stock price." 734129;1403807867;ThickAsThieves;We'd like to make at least 11% on this trade, thank you kind public. 734130;1403807876;mircea_popescu;pankkake: moiety: encrypted wallet.dat on dropbox is certainly more secure - actually I can't find any drawback in terms of security or privacy << stock "encrypted" wallet leaks a lot of metadata. 734131;1403807881;mircea_popescu;gpg the file, then ok. 734132;1403807909;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves fwiw i don't see the case for netflix. what are they going to do ? 734133;1403807917;moiety;gpg is the only encryption for me :D 734134;1403807919;pankkake;compared to online wallet, all the same - you're leaking to the online wallet 734135;1403807926;ThickAsThieves;they arew going to go down to 390 734136;1403807928;ThickAsThieves;:) 734137;1403807942;ThickAsThieves;hopefully, cuz i shorted at 444.44 734138;1403807944;mike_c;netflix is doing good original content. it's a new HBO. 734139;1403807987;ThickAsThieves;netflix will do fine 734140;1403807989;mircea_popescu;"Young male founders must all be drinking the same Soylent. Either that or they have a hard time" USING THE NOGGIN ? 734141;1403807996;ThickAsThieves;they justw wont grow as quickly as market wants 734142;1403808000;ThickAsThieves;so stock will go in waves 734143;1403808013;mircea_popescu;mike_c you know what tried that ? the original company hiring the pierce muppet as a male twink escort. 734144;1403808029;mircea_popescu;it left one of the largest craters in dotcom history. 734145;1403808060;ThickAsThieves;it wont be long before TV is computer and channels are websites, etc, just as netflix gains ground, theyll gain competition from all over 734146;1403808062;mircea_popescu;!up cuwirebeard 734147;1403808070;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves but not money. 734148;1403808096;mircea_popescu;you know how people used to make a living writing books ? and you know how it wasn't long before all books were blogs and whatnot ? 734149;1403808116;ThickAsThieves;i think they can surive and even grow in the long term, i just wouldnt invest in them long term 734150;1403808162;chetty;*GERMANY ENDING VERIZON CONTRACT, CITING NSA: AP 734151;1403808184;ThickAsThieves;verizon emailed me saying they are sad i'm gone today, and that theyve change 734152;1403808184;Duffer1;imo they'll need to do a lot better than what they currently offer 734153;1403808186;ThickAsThieves;d 734154;1403808198;Duffer1;what do you have now? 734155;1403808220;ThickAsThieves;i dont have a cell 734156;1403808233;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i did say the case tho. i mean, grow, sure, fine. doing what ? 734157;1403808237;ThickAsThieves;i had their mifi 734158;1403808242;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10549 @ 0.00082432 = 8.6958 BTC [-] {2} 734159;1403808246;Duffer1;ah thought you meant broadband 734160;1403808258;cuwirebeard;And just as govts burn(ed) books theyll burn...internets! 734161;1403808272;ThickAsThieves;curation of original content, convenience -- the new equivalent of a good TV channel 734162;1403808282;mircea_popescu;what govt burned book s? 734163;1403808297;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves this i wish to see 734164;1403808320;mircea_popescu;Subject: Your FED TAX payment (ID:03SIRS815097882) was Rejected 734165;1403808320;mircea_popescu;From: "TAX@irs.gov" 734166;1403808327;mircea_popescu;sucks to be me i guess 734167;1403808330;ThickAsThieves;lol 734168;1403808347;ThickAsThieves;happens to the best of us 734169;1403808347;mike_c;i got a paper version of that scam recently 734170;1403808350;mircea_popescu;restart a client server ? 734171;1403808356;mircea_popescu;why not a plantanimal 734172;1403808367;ThickAsThieves;youll pull through it 734173;1403808369;mike_c;actually got me for a second. 734174;1403808380;ThickAsThieves;hax! 734175;1403808399;BingoBoingo;Was that it? 734176;1403808807;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 566.3, vol: 5331.23512684 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.297, vol: 3770.40863 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 573.05, vol: 6526.95326517 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 583.53, vol: 62.06868508 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 577.718145, vol: 2677.55970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 574.42282, vol: 7.83281339 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 569.53665, vol: 40.24475231 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 734177;1403808891;BingoBoingo;;;more 734178;1403808891;gribble;570.829819679 734179;1403808898;mircea_popescu;pankkake: understandable, just saying there might be less expensive solutions << perhjaps, but you gotta understand, there's no game in the world that's cheaper than 1k. 734180;1403808907;mircea_popescu;just busing the competitors in and that's the budget. 734181;1403808932;ThickAsThieves;how much do you guys think the SR coins will auction for? 734182;1403808933;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: that i could play in with friends << private bet is your friend. 734183;1403808957;BingoBoingo;I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Silbert bid above market 734184;1403808975;ThickAsThieves;problem is no one i know in dota uses bitcoin, and oddly a couple weeks ago they just all stopped signing on 734185;1403808981;mircea_popescu;depends who buys it. if any non alligned buyer actually makes a serious offer, upwards of 25mn. if nobody gets involved and the original plan can proceed, 15mn or so. 734186;1403809001;ThickAsThieves;but if it were ubiquitous in the game, itd get used 734187;1403809029;mod6;%ob 734188;1403809031;atcbot;65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 734189;1403809073;benkay; benkay just ftr i based your sarcasm :D // pardon? 734190;1403809082;mircea_popescu;bashed* 734191;1403809096;benkay;ah wd ty 734192;1403809104;benkay;my goal is to have at least 5 in the top-of-all-time 734193;1403809115;benkay;bash kinda has silly dynamics what with winner-taking-all 734194;1403809127;mircea_popescu;lol 734195;1403809161;mike_c;hmph. weight fail. http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 734196;1403809161;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closing in 5 hours 39 seconds | weight: 2`345 (100`000 to 1) 734197;1403809175;mike_c;no reason to go to 1 on that. should have been 80k, 90k. 734198;1403809210;ThickAsThieves;i wanted the price to be murky 734199;1403809218;mircea_popescu;At the risk of stemming the stimulating debate revolving around OGNasty's smartiferous proposition "losing money on various bitcoin investings is teh road to riches," 734200;1403809220;ThickAsThieves;bet early! 734201;1403809246;pankkake;he added XBOND https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=666993.0 734202;1403809246;assbot;Havelock Securities At A Glance: The SRS BZNZ Edition 734203;1403809261;mircea_popescu;smartiferous should totally be a thing. the ooze of ferrous craneus 734204;1403809277;mircea_popescu;http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm 734205;1403809278;assbot;Ferrous Cranus 734206;1403809288;ThickAsThieves;it is happening tomorrow after all, and who knows what info will leak 734207;1403809323;mircea_popescu;!up Lycerion 734208;1403809329;mircea_popescu;eh get out ?! 734209;1403809334;mircea_popescu;!up 734210;1403809338;mircea_popescu;!up mircea_popescu 734211;1403809343;benkay;mircea_popescu: http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/06/17/bitpagos-raises-600000-seed-round-to-boost-bitcoin-use-in-south-america/?KEYWORDS=bitpagos another for the DERP 734212;1403809343;assbot;BitPagos Raises $600,000 Seed Round to Boost Bitcoin Use in South America - Venture Capital Dispatch - WSJ 734213;1403809355;ThickAsThieves;no derpy enough 734214;1403809357;ThickAsThieves;not 734215;1403809358;mircea_popescu;benkay iitl you know ? 734216;1403809360;Apocalyptic;mircea_popescu, you must !up via pm prolly 734217;1403809380;mircea_popescu;NO! I SHALL SAY UP IN HERE AGAIN unless assbot appeases me 734218;1403809382;benkay;ah 734219;1403809389;benkay;!down mircea_popescu 734220;1403809395;benkay;bwahahahahahahah 734221;1403809398;ThickAsThieves;lol 734222;1403809398;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/31RAWPB.txt ) 734223;1403809398;benkay;!b 4 734224;1403809416;ThickAsThieves;i photobombed ur bash 734225;1403809450;mircea_popescu;lake titicaca... ole titicaca... 734226;1403809468;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0Hee533Iw 734227;1403809468;assbot;Animaniacs - Lake Titicaca - YouTube 734228;1403809473;kakobrekla;!up Lycerion 734229;1403809731;mircea_popescu;mike_c havelock share of s.mg is worth 54% of a mpex share of s.mg. << nuts huh 734230;1403809747;mike_c;probably overvalues havelock share. 734231;1403809772;BingoBoingo;Who even does that PT? 734232;1403809773;mircea_popescu;just cp discount !? 734233;1403809855;mike_c;it's not even a share of s.mg. it's a share of a unit of havelol's smg fund. but the discount is counterparty, plus the difference of havelock investor opinion vs. mpex investor opinion (or IQ). 734234;1403809890;mircea_popescu;drastic. 734235;1403809910;mircea_popescu;so basically poor investor can lose 50% ayear even with an achor ? 734236;1403809924;mircea_popescu;is this one of those "made roi hand over fist" ognasty situations ? 734237;1403809936;mike_c;well, they made money on a fiat basis :D 734238;1403809998;mircea_popescu;http://www.infobae.com/2014/06/26/1576179-argentina-pago-el-vencimiento-los-bonos-reestructurados 734239;1403809999;assbot;Argentina pag el vencimiento de los bonos reestructurados | Axel Kicillof, Litigio con los holdouts - Infobae 734240;1403810018;mircea_popescu;argentina paid its conversion debt and is going to stiff the vulture funds. 734241;1403810131;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00082355 = 21.6594 BTC [-] 734242;1403810208;BingoBoingo;Peronism, The Falkland Islands, Financial Shennanigans, Argentina is basically the Eric Cartman of International Intrigue 734243;1403810235;mircea_popescu;not so far off. 734244;1403810985;assbot;[MPEX] [D.BPAY] 65 @ 0.23999999 = 15.6 BTC 734245;1403812117;ThickAsThieves;"I was an idiot and assumed that the "random" button on brainwallet.org was truly random, but it clearly is not. My coins were taken by someone who is clearly smarter than myself and this is completely my fault by creating Bitcoin addresses on a website that I assumed was safe. There's a $20k life lesson that I'll never forget, that's for sure. Also, to elaborate, I did not use the 734246;1403812117;ThickAsThieves;passphrase functionality on brainwallet.org, I used the random button to create the addresses." 734247;1403812205;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00082541 = 25.3814 BTC [+] {3} 734248;1403812574;BingoBoingo;%d 734249;1403812576;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 401594.40 in 1735 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -21.49 734250;1403812581;BingoBoingo;%fu 734251;1403812905;ThickAsThieves;i guess the crash is imminent, there-is-no-bubble propaganda: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/14/why-the-scary-1929-chart-is-a-bunch-of-nonsense/ 734252;1403812905;assbot;Why the 1929 Chart Is a Bunch of Nonsense - MoneyBeat - WSJ 734253;1403813048;ThickAsThieves;i love how their main argument is that the % is much less severe than portrayed, like everything would be daisies if the market dropped 40% or whatever 734254;1403813144;ThickAsThieves;then, proof! http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/26/time-to-officially-stick-a-fork-in-that-1929-chart/ 734255;1403813144;assbot;Time to Officially Stick a Fork in That 1929 Chart - MoneyBeat - WSJ 734256;1403813181;ThickAsThieves;(note they used same scale they said was no good before) 734257;1403813222;ThickAsThieves;theyve also time-shifted the red line forward to look further laong 734258;1403813242;ThickAsThieves;(and upward) 734259;1403813492;nubbins`;re: can/strings 734260;1403813494;nubbins`;i like 734261;1403813508;nubbins`;esp. the wrapping around the side 734262;1403813545;FabianB;;;bc,stats 734263;1403813548;gribble;Current Blocks: 307972 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 475 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16587491540.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.21183 734264;1403813592;nubbins`;;;later tell thestringpuller you mean like life-size cardboard cutouts? the kind you'd find at a Lord of the Rings premiere? 734265;1403813592;gribble;The operation succeeded. 734266;1403813608;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18731 @ 0.0008256 = 15.4643 BTC [+] {2} 734267;1403813755;thestringpuller;nubbins`: yea 734268;1403813762;thestringpuller;doesn't have to be full sized 734269;1403813764;thestringpuller;maybe half 734270;1403813785;nubbins`;tough to ship, i always thought they got those things made locally 734271;1403813790;thestringpuller;interesting 734272;1403813803;thestringpuller;can't you ship in normal boxes? 734273;1403813811;nubbins`;yeah, i suppose 734274;1403813844;nubbins`;you thinking full-color prints? 734275;1403813972;thestringpuller;possibly 734276;1403813987;thestringpuller;well that's ideal 734277;1403813991;thestringpuller;but depends on cost 734278;1403814174;BingoBoingo;http://www.cracked.com/article_21301_6-mysterious-deaths-thatll-make-you-believe-in-conspiracies.html 734279;1403814174;assbot;6 Mysterious Deaths That'll Make You Believe in Conspiracies | Cracked.com 734280;1403814312;pankkake;author of the article kills himself, 6 bullets in the head 734281;1403814365;BingoBoingo;If only 734282;1403814715;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 44,592. 734283;1403814931;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.87602464 BTC. Current weight: 64,370. 734284;1403815137;BingoBoingo;http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Financial-Services-Roundtable-Alexander-letter.pdf 734285;1403815388;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 64(Y):36(N) by coin, 62(Y):38(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 44,563. 734286;1403816336;punkman;/join #bitcoin-otc 734287;1403817900;benkay;butts 734288;1403817902;benkay;$bait 734289;1403818024;assbot;ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 734290;1403818295;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves nice lol. "it is time, once and for all" too. 734291;1403818340;kakobrekla;!up ninjashogun 734292;1403818397;ninjashogun;thanks kakobrekla. I don't remember exactly who I spoke to in here before, if we've spoken and you trust me enough for voice you can give me whatever WoT rating with assbot is necessary and justified based on our interaction for me to type Up. 734293;1403818415;ninjashogun;based on our interaction so far* 734294;1403818464;ninjashogun;I just registered on WoT today, because I've started discussing trades elsewhere. I haven't traded on anyone from here before, though I've connected with real-world people (real identities). 734295;1403818545;benkay;!down kakobrekla 734296;1403818565;kakobrekla;hey at least some words came out of this one 734297;1403818590;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i like how the original title included "scary" but then editors took it out 734298;1403818731;mircea_popescu;"I have been in this business for over 43 years, yet I do not ever recall getting as slammed with the same email as many times as I have about" 734299;1403818744;mircea_popescu;yeah dude totally, recall the email slamming of 1959 ? 734300;1403818754;mircea_popescu;that was some numerous email slamming back then. 734301;1403818834;mircea_popescu;"Heres a look at the chart comparing point moves and percentage moves. On a percentage basis, this spooky comparison doesnt look quite so frightful." 734302;1403818837;mircea_popescu;ajhajajaa ok good stuff. 734303;1403818842;ninjashogun;lol 734304;1403818858;mircea_popescu;" Daniel Wiener, chief executive at Adviser Investments in Newton, Mass., blamed the Internet" 734305;1403818861;mircea_popescu;too good stuff. 734306;1403818899;mircea_popescu;"From Mr. Brown: 734307;1403818899;mircea_popescu;The reason why this bothers me is twofold first, it frightens investors into making poor decisions big decisions that will have a major impact on their mental health and financial condition well into the future. Second, the more we see this kind of pornography, the more likely it is to have an impact on crowd psychology and become a self-fulfilling prophecy. " 734308;1403818913;mircea_popescu;clearly. i blame asciilifeform. he wrecked the us economy. 734309;1403818919;mircea_popescu;pls to gasenwagen for him asap. 734310;1403818946;mircea_popescu;"Its like putting a disturbed, isolated teenager in front of violent first-person shooter video games all day. If we know that most Americans are scared to invest in their own future, whats the reason to fuel that fear even further? Sadism? Or just plain exploitative greed?" 734311;1403818948;mircea_popescu;AAaaaahjahaha 734312;1403818965;mircea_popescu;dude, exploitative greed. teenager. videogames. it's got it all. 734313;1403818981;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves that was the one most lulzy piece of lulz i have seen in my entire life. ty vm. 734314;1403819212;benkay;she's alive 734315;1403819228;mircea_popescu;pankkake: author of the article kills himself, 6 bullets in the head << 6 mysterious bullets to the head that'll make you believe there's a god ? 734316;1403819246;benkay;http://media.giphy.com/media/1SRaXI2J1o7vO/giphy.gif 734317;1403819250;princessnell;missed me? 734318;1403819260;benkay;eh 734319;1403819267;mircea_popescu;we were starting to think you got like a regular job orsomething 734320;1403819329;mircea_popescu;"Frankly, its time to put the scary parallels between now and 1929 to rest. This isnt 1929. Not even close. Anyone who tells you differently is talking nonsense." 734321;1403819337;mircea_popescu;how does it help me ? maybe it's fucking worse. 734322;1403819349;mircea_popescu;"hey us economy, remember that time in 1929 when you had lupus ? 734323;1403819359;mircea_popescu;well this time ain't that time. ain't even close. now you got bladder cancer." 734324;1403819374;hanbot;was watching logs, wondering if they eventually went out and asked the homeless people what they thought of that chart, mircea_popescu 734325;1403819403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39039 @ 0.00082466 = 32.1939 BTC [-] {2} 734326;1403819435;hanbot;and no, it's not for "helping" with anything other than ostrich impressionism 734327;1403819483;benkay;princessnell and hanbot at once? 734328;1403819489;benkay;cuntspiraci! 734329;1403819547;hanbot;now there's a catchy pasta name 734330;1403819589;mircea_popescu;hanbot you know that's a point 734331;1403819614;mircea_popescu;they're starting to miss numbers in the paint-by-the-numbers set. 734332;1403819779;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/its-time-once-and-for-all-to-spend-10k-words-explaining-why-its-time-once-and-for-all-for-it-to-be-time-once-and-for-all/ 734333;1403819827;mircea_popescu;!up Adohgg 734334;1403819860;benkay;there's a pun in there 734335;1403820362;moiety;i finally have curtains with poles and everything :D homelyness ftw 734336;1403820370;moiety;hi hanbot! 734337;1403820398;hanbot;hiya moiety 734338;1403820422;moiety;how are you liking argentina hanbot? settled in? 734339;1403820500;mircea_popescu;wait, poles ? 734340;1403820522;moiety;yeah lol curtain poles... there were just blinds up before when i moved in 734341;1403820523;hanbot;it's a nice country, good coffee. haha, curtaindancing? 734342;1403820549;moiety;i could stick a red light in the window see what happens i guess XD 734343;1403820569;mircea_popescu;http://u1.ipernity.com/23/17/26/12981726.9330f335.640.jpg?r2 << is that a pole ? 734344;1403820630;moiety;he may well be! but mine don't look like that 734345;1403820634;moiety;mine are more boring 734346;1403820673;mircea_popescu;he does have the cutest butt doesn't he. 734347;1403820728;moiety;ihave these ones http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mDx0wlUQZZ0W1p4BvqSl7Gg.jpg i wonder if i could do a swap? 734348;1403820744;hanbot;i'm having a hard time getting past the juxtaposition of butt and flossing o.O 734349;1403820761;moiety;i didn't even notice the floss... not gonna lie 734350;1403820766;mircea_popescu;yours look kinda small. 734351;1403820794;mircea_popescu;hanbot he's shaving 734352;1403820804;mircea_popescu;old style. 734353;1403820851;moiety;someone clever hid all his bath towels, good work. 734354;1403820905;hanbot;oh i see 734355;1403821050;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00082315 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {2} 734356;1403821102;hanbot;ninjashogun http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=derpage+from%3Aninjashogun 734357;1403821103;assbot;0 results for 'derpage from:ninjashogun' - #bitcoin-assets search 734358;1403821379;chetty;http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/06/26/anti-amnesty-group-asks-americans-to-mail-gently-used-underwear-to-obama-boehner/ 734359;1403821379;assbot;Anti-Amnesty Group Asks Americans To Mail ‘Gently Used Underwear’ To Obama, Boehner « CBS DC 734360;1403821440;mircea_popescu;how's that supposed to work 734361;1403821476;thestringpuller;;;calc sin(3.14) 734362;1403821476;gribble;0.00159265291649 734363;1403821489;thestringpuller;;;calc sin(90) 734364;1403821489;gribble;0.893996663601 734365;1403821528;[]bot;Bet created: "Julian Assange to leave Ecuadorian Embassy" http://bitbet.us/bet/969/ 734366;1403821585;mircea_popescu;http://reviewc.nl/wp-content/uploads/gummo-50fbb558bf8e0.jpg 734367;1403821599;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 92 @ 0.0166 = 1.5272 BTC [+] 734368;1403821602;thestringpuller;i hate clicking on images in this channel during work 734369;1403821629;cazalla;does anyone know a Shane Stevenson, Matthew K (don't know last name) behind the recent cointree.com.au exchange? 734370;1403821665;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller but u dun have to. 734371;1403821673;mircea_popescu;cazalla nop 734372;1403821707;pankkake;I was going to say "this pic looks like gummo". but it's gummo :( 734373;1403821721;assbot;[MPEX] [S.WOL] 500000 @ 0.00004005 = 20.025 BTC {7} 734374;1403821721;mircea_popescu;Harmony Korine 734375;1403821743;thestringpuller;didn't he make that movie kids? 734376;1403821743;mircea_popescu;but wd on your muy well informed cinematometer. 734377;1403821749;thestringpuller;with the rapist kids with aids? 734378;1403821750;bitstein;He wrote it. 734379;1403821756;thestringpuller;^- there we go 734380;1403821762;bitstein;That movie was horrifying. 734381;1403821773;thestringpuller;yea. I have no idea why the fuck I watched it. 734382;1403821785;bitstein;I really liked Spring Breakers. 734383;1403821787;pankkake;I watched it because of the music 734384;1403821791;mircea_popescu;sort of like, a la carte trainspotting. 734385;1403821862;mircea_popescu;but to move on, http://temps.tt.over-blog.com/2014/05/pastiches-a-consommer-sans-moderation.html 734386;1403821863;assbot;Pastiches ... consommer sans modration - Temps 734387;1403821920;pankkake;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YcCRrgfzY 734388;1403821920;assbot;Bethlehem - Schuld Uns'res Knoch'rigen Faltpferd - "Gummo" ('97) Soundtrack - YouTube 734389;1403821933;pankkake;I've read "La vie sexuelle de Tintin", that was quite a WTF 734390;1403821967;mircea_popescu;time once and for all to put la vie sexuelle de tintin once and for all to rest. 734391;1403822156;[]bot;Bet created: "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/970/ 734392;1403822170;*;punkman is contemplating starting a clothing label called cans+string 734393;1403822228;hanbot;so, bikinis? 734394;1403822243;punkman;mankinis 734395;1403822247;FabianB;$vwap s.wol 734396;1403822248;empyex;FabianB: S.WOL 1 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 7 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 30 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 734397;1403822294;mircea_popescu;and there we go! 734398;1403822461;kakobrekla;all gone eh ? 734399;1403822508;mircea_popescu;ya one fell swoop, 33%ish over par 734400;1403822570;kakobrekla;noice! 734401;1403822616;mthreat;bitstein: Have you been to this? http://satoshiatx.com/ 734402;1403822616;assbot;Satoshi Square - Bitcoin Social Club and Exchange 734403;1403822647;bitstein;Not yet. I think it opens on July 4th for that party. I'll probably go. 734404;1403822742;FabianB;$unconfirmed 734405;1403822743;empyex;FabianB: 1763 734406;1403822917;FabianB;$vwap s.bbet 734407;1403822918;empyex;FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00052229 high: 0.0005234 low: 0.0005 volume: 2100 btc: 1.0968 30 day: average: 0.00049389 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 10248 btc: 5.061385 734408;1403823058;mircea_popescu;FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ? 734409;1403823136;mircea_popescu;justusranvier "Well see why nobody uses arbitrarily-complex verbal contracts in practise by looking at what happens when something goes wrong." << this is nonsense. marriage is always and in all places the most complex contract, and almost always verbal. 734410;1403823151;mircea_popescu;when something goes wrong... people fuck. 734411;1403823556;mircea_popescu;one of the best things about a lot of floor space and stuff like parquet is that you can go for long chair rides 734412;1403823574;asciilifeform;lol! mr spam was here, and where was i. 734413;1403823578;asciilifeform;missed it all. 734414;1403823876;asciilifeform;and he's in wot? great! 734415;1403823896;asciilifeform;because now we can: 734416;1403823900;asciilifeform;;;rate ninjashogun -1 http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt 734417;1403823901;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. 734418;1403823969;asciilifeform;;;unrate ninjashogun 734419;1403823970;gribble;Successfully removed your rating for ninjashogun. 734420;1403823984;asciilifeform;;;rate ninjashogun -1 nice try, usg - http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt 734421;1403823986;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. 734422;1403824320;mircea_popescu;in the news : whatsapp revenue climbs to record 3.8 bn for quarter 2 (about $8500 per user), making the ~250mn profit trickling down to facebook slightly better than what it'd have got if it simply bought gilts for 20bn. 734423;1403824439;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: I consider marriage contracts to be relatively simple, especially the verbal ones before the state started getting involved. 734424;1403824449;mircea_popescu;how do you score simpleness then ? 734425;1403824464;mircea_popescu;and they are still verbal today. 734426;1403824563;justusranvier;If a contract is fully specified in some tangible form, then the amount of entropy in the explaination is inversely proportional to the simpleness. 734427;1403824630;mircea_popescu;so by this measure marriage contracts are the most complex contracts that can exist. 734428;1403824631;asciilifeform;justusranvier: let's try degenerate case. 'mr x owes mr y the following amount, in satoshis...' [followed by a 100MB turd from rng] 734429;1403824651;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform not even going there, we supplement "meaningful" to serve his position. 734430;1403824707;*;asciilifeform wonders if anyone's ever crapped out a contract containing 'halting problem' 734431;1403824728;mircea_popescu;the eastern sages, yes 734432;1403824736;Mats_cd03;asciilifeform: hahahaha lol. 734433;1403824766;justusranvier;Marriage: party A provides resources. Party B provides certainty of genetic lineage. 734434;1403824806;justusranvier;If either side fails to perform the contract no longer exists. 734435;1403824848;justusranvier;Before the State took over and made things rediculous 734436;1403824848;mircea_popescu;this is a silly view of marriage. 734437;1403824867;mircea_popescu;yesterday i had a girl over, and the local girl and the new girl managed the use of the kitchen together. 734438;1403824871;mircea_popescu;also they shared the bidet. 734439;1403824876;mircea_popescu;this was in the contract. 734440;1403824891;mircea_popescu;now you go ahead and write that down. 734441;1403825010;mircea_popescu;According to a TechCrunch article, Zuckerberg's vision for Internet.org was as follows: "The idea, he said, is to develop a group of basic internet services that would be free of charge to use 'a 911 for the internet.' These could be a social networking service like Facebook, a messaging service, maybe search and other things like weather. Providing a bundle of these free of charge to users will work like a gateway 734442;1403825010;mircea_popescu;drug of sorts users who may be able to afford data services and phones these days just dont see the point of why they would pay for those data services. This would give them some context for why they are important, and that will lead them to paying for more services like this or so the hope goes." 734443;1403825021;mircea_popescu;this has got to be the most fucktarded business model i ever read. 734444;1403825043;mircea_popescu;so what, the reason i don't; buy an android tho i could afford to buy the engineer designing it is that... wait for it... it never occured to me to get... internet weather ? 734445;1403825047;mircea_popescu;god have mercy. 734446;1403825049;justusranvier;It's a perfectly fine business model. 734447;1403825077;mircea_popescu;apparently there's lots we agree on :D 734448;1403825082;justusranvier;The spooks want Total Information Awareness. Zuckerberg is paid to get as many people as possible to opt in to surveillance. 734449;1403825083;asciilifeform;'the '90s called, they want their aol retardation back' 734450;1403825090;justusranvier;That's his actual business 734451;1403825114;punkman;it would be a perfectly fine business model if they'd make some money from their crappy ads 734452;1403825117;justusranvier;As long as he keeps getting more people to voluntarily give him their data, he keeps getting paid 734453;1403825130;mircea_popescu;justusranvier but that's your theory. i am a businessman, i read what's written. 734454;1403825138;mircea_popescu;what's written is still dumb. 734455;1403825154;mircea_popescu;punkman right ? remember the days back when 1% CTR was LOW ? 734456;1403825163;punkman;mircea_popescu: I do 734457;1403825190;mircea_popescu;hey mike_c you got like 10 btc with your name on it! s.wol mktcap like 400 atm. 734458;1403825191;punkman;I could indeed make money while I was sleeping then 734459;1403825200;asciilifeform;next phase is to convince folks to voluntarily move into labour camp, etc. to get Free! internet/food/whatever 734460;1403825201;mircea_popescu;i couldn't sleep while making money 734461;1403825204;mircea_popescu;it was too exciting 734462;1403825208;punkman;that too 734463;1403825215;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform isn't that where you live ? 734464;1403825231;asciilifeform;lol 734465;1403825238;mircea_popescu;zingy zing-zing 734466;1403825248;punkman;bought cans-string.com :P 734467;1403825259;*;asciilifeform met day's uranium quota, plays cards 734468;1403825269;mircea_popescu;this calls for some cats going "cans string???" 734469;1403825276;mike_c;mircea_popescu: sweet! new ATH 734470;1403825301;mircea_popescu;mike_c lol ya. 734471;1403825334;justusranvier;mircea_popescu: As you said, the business model on it's face is retarded. There's no way it could legitimately generate a profit. 734472;1403825343;mircea_popescu;pretty much 734473;1403825346;justusranvier;Facebook et al have been like that from the beginning 734474;1403825366;mircea_popescu;now this is true... i guess facebook just used the capital judiciously. 734475;1403825376;mircea_popescu;"if you gave us all this money for nothing, now here's 3x as much nothing" 734476;1403825392;justusranvier;So if it's not possible for them to legitmately generate profits, and they continue to as business, then at some point the most plausible explaination is their profit somes from some other source 734477;1403825428;mircea_popescu;btw, anyone read zuck's 10 page whitepaper on future of internets last year ? 734478;1403825452;mircea_popescu;justusranvier not necessarily. pirate didn't have "some other source" 734479;1403825457;mircea_popescu;manias are manias. 734480;1403825459;justusranvier;So Booz Allen Hamilton has one of their subsidaries start buying up analytics from advertising firms. Those firms become Facebook's customers. 734481;1403825469;mircea_popescu;he got lucky to be hit with easy money just right. 734482;1403825487;justusranvier;Money gets transferred cleanly from three-letter-agency to Facebook without any obvious trail. 734483;1403825501;mircea_popescu;yeah. right. this totally works. 734484;1403825569;justusranvier;As long as you've got a buyer hidden somewhere with (effectively) infinately-deep pockets, then they can just put out RFQs and let it appear as if the "free market" has spontaneously formed an industry. 734485;1403825584;mircea_popescu;http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=atlantic+media << a fine example of how well that works in practice. 734486;1403825584;assbot;4 results for 'atlantic media' - #bitcoin-assets search 734487;1403825586;mircea_popescu;actual practice. 734488;1403825622;punkman;justusranvier: hidden things aren't what they used to be 734489;1403825642;mircea_popescu;the general rule is that no bureaucracy can hide anything. 734490;1403825663;justusranvier;Not for very long, no. 734491;1403825663;mircea_popescu;only people can hide, starting with the salami and ending where you please. 734492;1403825744;Mats_cd03;asciilifeform: 3 hours spent trying to convince you he understands the usb stack better than you do. hilarious 734493;1403825777;punkman;fun presentation on hidden things http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen.html 734494;1403825777;assbot;C3TV -Seeing The Secret State: Six Landscapes 734495;1403825821;punkman;dude takes some incredible photos 734496;1403825846;benkay; when something goes wrong... people fuck. // and when things go right... 734497;1403825871;punkman;http://www.paglen.com/?l=work 734498;1403825871;assbot;Trevor Paglen :::: WORK 734499;1403825878;mircea_popescu;benkay also. 734500;1403826023;mircea_popescu;http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html 734501;1403826025;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies? 734502;1403826064;mircea_popescu;"This cover story details #young #vulnerable #feminist writer Amanda Hess's frustration with disinterested male law enforcement when, after writing an article about receiving rape threats from a troll, she received rape threats from a troll." 734503;1403826174;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0439594 = 1.2748 BTC [-] 734504;1403826337;Mats_cd03;oh man 734505;1403826435;Mats_cd03;"and then he stalked her on Facebook!" the humanity 734506;1403826437;mircea_popescu;"Anonymity makes the internet mean and gives trolls= men too much power." 734507;1403826451;mircea_popescu;oh boy, am i ever so grandiosely positioned for that one. can't wait. 734508;1403826566;mircea_popescu;You may at this point roll your eyes epileptically and retort, "well, who cares 'what the system wants', the fact is anonymity does embolden the lunatics, shouldn't we try to restrict it?" Great question, too bad it's irrelevant. You've taken the bait and put all your energy into accepting the form of the argument. The issue isn't whether we should abolish online anonymity, since this will never happen. For every Ameri 734509;1403826566;mircea_popescu;can senator trying to curb anonymity there's going to be a Scandinavian cyberpirate who will come up with a workaround, and only one of them knows how to code. Besides, there's no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom. 734510;1403826578;mircea_popescu;look at that, guy groks things enough to know pgp is the correct reference ? 734511;1403826593;mircea_popescu;dude make a wot account already, i'll rate you. 734512;1403826596;Mats_cd03;This is the subtle shift: what starts out as "misogyny is bad" becomes "anonymity facilitates misogyny." 734513;1403826617;Mats_cd03;crystallized something i have felt for a long time but am not eloquent to describe 734514;1403826626;Mats_cd03;eloquent enough, anyway. 734515;1403826687;mircea_popescu;!up RSM 734516;1403826775;princessnell;TLP is gr8, a fellow traveler i think 734517;1403826793;mircea_popescu;what's that mean ? 734518;1403826977;mircea_popescu;RSM how's this working out for you 734519;1403827022;RSM;we have ~129BTC in the wallet but have to pay £15k soon for 1(GH/s) of Scrypt ASIC's off AlphaT 734520;1403827043;RSM;plus have 5(TH/s)@5kW hashing 734521;1403827056;mike_c;;;calc 129 / 131000 734522;1403827057;gribble;0.000984732824427 734523;1403827084;mike_c;;;calc .0006 / .000985 734524;1403827084;gribble;0.609137055838 734525;1403827099;mike_c;i guess the market says there is a 40% chance you'll steal all the coin 734526;1403827109;RSM;796 has nowhere near the any speculators like BCT did 734527;1403827122;RSM;lol I've been hear since 2011 734528;1403827137;mike_c;;;ident RSM 734529;1403827137;gribble;Nick 'RSM', with hostmask 'RSM!56b97cb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.124.179', is not identified. 734530;1403827143;RSM;why steal now after 4 years 734531;1403827163;mike_c;i don't think you will, the market does. 734532;1403827169;Blazedout419;RSM has alpha got a working prototype yet? 734533;1403827215;dub;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271494.0 734534;1403827215;assbot;FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ 734535;1403827234;RSM;no, but they scrapped the internal PSU and are usuing offshelf already ceritifed PSU's now. So we're hopping they can do waht KNC did with Jupiters from recieving chips to shipping within a week 734536;1403827243;dub;bitches better recognize 734537;1403827248;Mats_cd03;been hear huh? i am compelled by your education 734538;1403827281;bitstein;The Last Psychiatrist is one of the best things on the Internet. 734539;1403827288;dub;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ecp7UruLZI 734540;1403827288;assbot;Rhythm Quest - Closer To All Your Dreams - YouTube 734541;1403827293;mike_c;in my brief mining career i blew out a PSU. mining is such a wretched activity. 734542;1403827306;Mats_cd03;be forewarned, asset-ers are not friendly to mining ventures as a general rule 734543;1403827307;thestringpuller;but it's so much fun 734544;1403827327;thestringpuller;Mats_cd03: pfft ThickAsThieves started his hustle mining 734545;1403827341;Mats_cd03;and when was that 734546;1403827344;mike_c;but not actually mining 734547;1403827346;Mats_cd03;two years ago? 734548;1403827348;thestringpuller;2013 734549;1403827355;thestringpuller;Like Spring? 734550;1403827360;thestringpuller;check logs son 734551;1403827363;mike_c;just pretend mining. lot harder to blow out psu's that way 734552;1403827365;Mats_cd03;aite 734553;1403827369;kakobrekla;!s test 734554;1403827370;assbot;879 results for 'test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=test 734555;1403827375;mircea_popescu;yay 734556;1403827380;thestringpuller;dope 734557;1403827381;Mats_cd03;nice 734558;1403827382;asciilifeform;neato 734559;1403827386;mike_c;!s from:kakobrekla test 734560;1403827387;assbot;16 results for 'from:kakobrekla test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+test 734561;1403827398;mike_c;awesome 734562;1403827430;Mats_cd03;!s from:ThickAsThieves 734563;1403827430;assbot;37982 results for 'from:ThickAsThieves' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:ThickAsThieves 734564;1403827434;RSM;our main paln is to hopefully at least ROI on the 19GH/s) of scrypt and the current 5(TH/s). that's give us at least 150BTC then wait for then next bubble. We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months. 734565;1403827452;RSM;sorry 1(GH/s) of scrypt 734566;1403827454;kakobrekla;problem with from is it works on ":" only and well many use comma instead 734567;1403827457;dub;dude fuck off back to the forum 734568;1403827459;thestringpuller;http://en.bitcoinwiki.org/Namecoin << Lol "Relationship to Bitcon" what a typo 734569;1403827460;assbot;Namecoin - Bitcoin Wiki 734570;1403827557;kakobrekla;dunno if we should all switch to colon or make search use comma to parse 'to' as well 734571;1403827573;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04101311 = 1.0253 BTC [-] {4} 734572;1403827576;mike_c;who uses comma? 734573;1403827602;kakobrekla;i used to it seem, now im down to nothing 734574;1403827606;bitcoinpete;thestringpuller: like this bitcon? http://canadianbullionservices.com/silver-coins-2/1-oz-2014-bitcon-silver-round 734575;1403827607;assbot;CanadianBullion - 1 oz 2014 BitCON Silver Round 734576;1403827613;kakobrekla;blah 734577;1403827660;RSM;we own the bragging rights to being the oldest publicly traded bitcoin security afaik or at least mining stock. IPO started january 2012 734578;1403827675;mike_c;meh. "to" seems unreliable regardless. not sure it adds much over simple "from + name" search anyway 734579;1403827695;mike_c;!s from:kakobrekla mike_c 734580;1403827695;assbot;74 results for 'from:kakobrekla mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+mike_c 734581;1403827704;mike_c;!s from:kakobrekla to:mike_c 734582;1403827705;assbot;1 results for 'from:kakobrekla to:mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+to:mike_c 734583;1403827709;mike_c;whoa 734584;1403827756;kakobrekla;see, there is comma a few times 734585;1403827760;asciilifeform;'six landscapes' film << neat. wonder if the author has already fellated a nailgun. 734586;1403827770;kakobrekla;and mostly nothing. 734587;1403827787;mike_c;yeah. i don't think 'to' needs improving, just ignoring. 734588;1403827934;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit 734589;1403827935;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 734590;1403827947;mircea_popescu;and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja. 734591;1403827974;kakobrekla;;;rate mthreat 1 spammicide searchinator 734592;1403827974;mthreat; see, there is comma a few times << I see what you mean. For the "to", I just extracted using regex: "^([a-zA-Z0-9\-\_]+): " 734593;1403827975;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. 734594;1403827982;RSM;I want to move RSM trading potentially on to Counterparty, but afaik there's no way to ever halt trading if we want to move. Offtopic my speculation is that Etherum is taking so long as their trying to wait for side-chains possibly? 734595;1403828000;mircea_popescu; ;;ident RSM << guy's like nefario's oldest chav friend. 734596;1403828008;mircea_popescu;his spelling's not much improved over the years either. 734597;1403828021;RSM;why Chav coz i can't spell? 734598;1403828024;kakobrekla;mthreat dunno if theres a better solution, dont worry about it 734599;1403828046;RSM;I'm dsylexic too fu@k and you should see my handwriting 734600;1403828065;mircea_popescu;pretty much yeah 734601;1403828069;mike_c;dyslexia makes you replace 'c' with '@'? that sucks. 734602;1403828086;kakobrekla;the keys are right next to each other 734603;1403828096;RSM;I studied fast Fourier transforms and matrix manipulation as an under grad though so at least i can count 734604;1403828119;mike_c;you can manipulate the matrix?? that is impressive. 734605;1403828132;kakobrekla;the agents. they are here. 734606;1403828135;RSM;it's just patens to foloow 734607;1403828142;mircea_popescu;"We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months." << what sense does this make ? 734608;1403828144;kakobrekla;ascii and mp were right all along. 734609;1403828156;mircea_popescu;do you provision for dividends orsometing ? 734610;1403828176;RSM;yeah currently about ~5.5BTc in the div fund 734611;1403828195;mircea_popescu;moiety you got a reddit hon ? 734612;1403828222;RSM;I'm starting a motion to raise the salry fund as the two current Linux system admins are paid peanuts 734613;1403828255;Mats_cd03;lol 734614;1403828280;RSM;one of them is an abosulte CLI genuis. he's a slackware guru for the last four years 734615;1403828339;Mats_cd03;im sure you think so 734616;1403828350;RSM;currently building a 05 fee LTC P2Pool node with a dedicated server going in the DCtomorow gonna make it public based in Kansas City 734617;1403828357;RSM;sorry 0% fee 734618;1403828407;RSM;they've got it merged-mining ten chains so far lolz 734619;1403828435;moiety;mircea_popescu: I do. Just for posting about derp.net 734620;1403828481;hanbot;moiety, he prolly means http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#734588 734621;1403828482;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 734622;1403828549;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082487 = 17.4872 BTC [+] 734623;1403828612;moiety;lol np 734624;1403828885;asciilifeform;'agents, they are here' << 'we had no doubts that the dacha [place of n. s. khruschev's forced retirement] was festooned with microphones, but as to where the receiving devices and tape reels were emplaced - no one had any idea. somehow this did not interest us... ... i must say that the apparatus worked in a rather mediocre way, and the eavesdropping was conducted so shabbily, especially in the latter years of 734625;1403828886;asciilifeform;father's life. the guards who had replaced melnikov, often, instead of switching the tape reel to record, confused the buttons. then, from father's walls, you could hear muffled singing, instrumental pieces, stage concerts - the microphones had turned into speakers. sometimes, i allowed myself a laugh - would feign surprise at the ghostly music and offer to locate its source. in a moment, silence would always fa 734626;1403828886;asciilifeform;ll.' 734627;1403828902;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ 734628;1403828925;asciilifeform;(bio of n. s. khruschev, by his son. translation mine.) 734629;1403828961;asciilifeform;('Никита Хрущев. Пенсионер союзного значения.' Сергей Хрущев.) 734630;1403829144;kakobrekla;amazing. 734631;1403829144;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 734632;1403829205;thestringpuller;;;google site:trilema.com dr. foreskin 734633;1403829206;gribble;These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: 734636;1403829234;mircea_popescu;!up greencabbige 734637;1403829235;mircea_popescu;lol 734638;1403829238;mircea_popescu;cabbige 734639;1403829279;greencabbige;can I talk now? 734640;1403829281;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.194 = 0.97 BTC [-] 734641;1403829294;mircea_popescu;yes, for 30 minutes 734642;1403829299;greencabbige;looks like it 734643;1403829311;greencabbige;oh thought you lot wanted rid of me? 734644;1403829332;mircea_popescu;!s #bitcoin-assets +m 734645;1403829332;assbot;Search the #bitcoin-assets log : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=#bitcoin-assets++m 734646;1403829348;mircea_popescu;hm 734647;1403829355;mircea_popescu;;;google #bitcoin-assets +m 734648;1403829355;gribble;#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; NEXT: 02-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 06-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: 734649;1403829375;kakobrekla;+ is a special char 734650;1403829394;greencabbige;RSM is www.796.com and I had a bit of gossip for you's in that IBWT is potentially working on a UK based securities exchange. he wants me to bring some shares over and manage it, but rsm board very worried of uk regulators. 734651;1403829407;kakobrekla;!s "+m" 734652;1403829408;assbot;1050 results for '" m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m" 734653;1403829415;kakobrekla;lolk 734654;1403829420;mthreat;may need to URL encode it 734655;1403829423;mthreat;!s % 734656;1403829423;assbot;Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=% 734657;1403829429;mthreat;yep 734658;1403829459;mircea_popescu;edge case anyway 734659;1403829461;kakobrekla;but if if visit http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m" in my browser 734660;1403829462;assbot;1050 results for '" m"' - #bitcoin-assets search 734661;1403829468;kakobrekla;the search sez " m" 734662;1403829514;mthreat;the "+" would be %2B url-encoded 734663;1403829541;mircea_popescu;greencabbige so your 12 months dividends are going to be 5.5 btc in the future ? 734664;1403829558;kakobrekla;!s "+m" 734665;1403829559;assbot;1050 results for '"+m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%2Bm%22 734666;1403829571;kakobrekla;aha 734667;1403829576;kakobrekla;werks 734668;1403829599;mthreat;yep 734669;1403829618;mircea_popescu;25-06-2014 17:04:04 !t m d.bpay > ? 734670;1403829618;mthreat;now my [broken] terminal client (SecureCRT) double-url-encodes it. heh 734671;1403829641;kakobrekla;heh 734672;1403829672;kakobrekla;thats your reward for making the thing 734673;1403829677;kakobrekla;it will never work for you. 734674;1403829680;mircea_popescu;lmao 734675;1403829693;mthreat;it's ok, i'm stoic 734676;1403829726;mircea_popescu;whoa! 734677;1403829732;mircea_popescu;that'd be an excellent epitaph 734678;1403829780;greencabbige;if you divide the current RSM wallet by the amount of shares rsm doesn't own then that's a value of over 0.0010btc alone. While current lowest offer is 0.0006btc. Once we get a tracking code for 1(GH/s) of scrypt supposedly and hopefully within the next three to five weeks we're moving and buying all shares back below 0.0010. Where's the days of BTCT sepecualtion i share price went over 0.015 last summer our wallet w 734679;1403829810;mthreat;http://www.myplates.com/Images/Plates/PLPC001?plateText=STOIC 734680;1403829867;mircea_popescu;greencabbige you got your 2012 books published anywhere ? 734681;1403829879;mircea_popescu;mthreat yours? 734682;1403829970;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00082525 = 9.903 BTC [+] {2} 734683;1403829970;kakobrekla;hm mthreat , "+m" will match "m" 734684;1403829991;mthreat;mircea_popescu: nope. mine is https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/7923842/1402238460/1500x500 734685;1403830018;mthreat;kakobrekla: yeah, +m just means "m is required" in the search language 734686;1403830027;greencabbige;possibly somewhere although i did it all my self then so very messy. Like I said our share price was 0.015 what saved us is I offered 0.002 per share for new funds to buy three KNC Jupiters. the shareholders we mostly against it, but i new those bfl's wernt worth shit. So it kind saved our bacon, but drastically lowered share price as I bought in 200% more shares and there's no knew buyers on 796. 734687;1403830028;mircea_popescu;kinda loud neh ? 734688;1403830030;kakobrekla;yes, but even when quoting it 734689;1403830048;kakobrekla;im not saying '+m' but '"+m"' 734690;1403830049;mthreat;kakobrekla: right. there's no way to search for the plus sign. 734691;1403830054;bitcoinpete;http://mineforeman.com/2014/06/27/brainwallet-org-exploited-and-bitcoins-stolen/ << a matter of time 734692;1403830055;assbot;BrainWallet.org exploited and bitcoins stolen | Mineforeman 734693;1403830058;kakobrekla;aha ok 734694;1403830060;mthreat;kakobrekla: all text gets tokenized 734695;1403830066;kakobrekla;rgr 734696;1403830082;mircea_popescu;greencabbige so you started a mining security in jan 2012 at 0.015, now trading at 0.006 and don't have any books. 734697;1403830155;bitstein;mthreat: love that plate 734698;1403830200;greencabbige;we've been on three exchanges now everything is fully recorded in our old thread. yes i have loads of old spreadsheets. Although the accounts guy didn't comne on board until last summer We orginally raised 200BTC in early 2012 then 120BTc last summer. 734699;1403830264;mthreat;bitstein: thx 734700;1403830268;asciilifeform;Math.random() << lol! 734701;1403830275;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00082758 = 18.0412 BTC [+] {2} 734702;1403830285;bitstein;Both of them. 734703;1403830289;greencabbige;I think our intial seed funding from the orgianlly IPO was about $2.5k we now about 480k in bitcoins alone, a server, 5TH/s and a 30% depsoit on 1(GH/s) of scrypt. 734704;1403830300;greencabbige;sorry 734705;1403830310;greencabbige;$80k in the wallet 734706;1403830313;asciilifeform;'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench 734707;1403830338;mircea_popescu;^ 734708;1403830344;Mats_cd03;if you want to be in the black a year from now, sadly your best play is just to take off with the funds 734709;1403830367;Mats_cd03;the sad state of being involved in an enterprise you can't control and don't understand 734710;1403830406;greencabbige;no we can get 200BTC by next year and bitcoin could go to $5k. We have a cool $1million to play with then. 734711;1403830443;mthreat;amazing plan! 734712;1403830443;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 734713;1403830455;kakobrekla;why am i hearing dollars, who said that? 734714;1403830471;greencabbige;better than fu~k all if you ask me 734715;1403830474;asciilifeform;amazing currency! 734716;1403830474;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 734717;1403830478;greencabbige;as hardware is priced in dollars 734718;1403830506;greencabbige;during a bubble all the current in stock gear that won't roi will easily roi 734719;1403830539;mircea_popescu;this would be the epitome of do it yourself finance / citizen dentistry. 734720;1403830552;Mats_cd03;whats your plan when hash goes to 1000ph and all your gear makes fractions of a penny? 734721;1403830557;asciilifeform;citizen appendectomy. 734722;1403830566;benkay; 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench // or...morels 734723;1403830584;mircea_popescu;also i am noticing in disbelief i missed out a 0. it's not 0.015 to 0.006 but to 0.0006 734724;1403830598;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19MV24T.txt ) 734725;1403830598;benkay;!b 1 734726;1403830606;greencabbige;ffs matt do you think I can't use a calcualtor or know anything about any of that sh~t I've been hear since 2011. So aint even gonna answer that. 734727;1403830606;mircea_popescu;;;calc 0.0006 / 0.015 734728;1403830607;gribble;0.04 734729;1403830641;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00082812 = 17.0419 BTC [+] {2} 734730;1403830647;benkay;four hundredths your money back in two years! 734731;1403830664;kakobrekla;ognasty did better. 734732;1403830670;kakobrekla;only 65% loss there. 734733;1403830679;mircea_popescu;but that's a social club 734734;1403830701;greencabbige;ok if you really wanna know with all our old gear we've sold it on ebay for more than we calcualted we'd a flogged out of it in the endz 734735;1403830719;mircea_popescu;greencabbige so is it true that nefario used you to launder all the fraudulent claims he made for various holdings on his own exchange after he closed it down ? 734736;1403830749;greencabbige;? 734737;1403830763;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24067 @ 0.0008282 = 19.9323 BTC [+] 734738;1403830764;greencabbige;news to me 734739;1403830775;Mats_cd03;if selling burned gear is how you anticipate roi, you're in for a bad time 734740;1403830780;greencabbige;i hardley now the guy, I met him once briefly 734741;1403830783;mircea_popescu;that it can't be, as the charge was levied back in 2012. 734742;1403830790;mircea_popescu;well, no, not really. 734743;1403830815;Mats_cd03;GL finding a bagholder, that will surely be a feat of strength if you can manage it again 734744;1403830867;mircea_popescu;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=271494.msg2909807#msg2909807 << for that matter here you go, august 2013. 734745;1403830867;assbot;FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ | Page 2 | Bitcointa.lk 734746;1403830878;greencabbige;ffs getting tired of this shit now. for a start if we sell it on ebay then people can buy it with a credit card to gety into a bitcoin. one of the only the ways to get in to bicoin safely with a credit card. Why all the attacks? 734747;1403830925;mircea_popescu;i think seinfeld has the answer to that. 734748;1403830941;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bKly7Od8M 734749;1403830941;assbot;Seinfeld: No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability, No Brains. . . - YouTube 734750;1403830969;greencabbige;ok if oyu're all gonna tag team on me with your littel club I'll just leave then should and carry on. We don't need any new money. we're currently in the strongest position we've ever been. 734751;1403831005;Mats_cd03;greencabbige: because mining now is a net loss. i hope you come back to this conversation when you have toasted your runway 734752;1403831026;Mats_cd03;and consider the cacophony of voices insisting you're fucking wrong. 734753;1403831109;mircea_popescu;if this club is littel i shudder to think what bigness looks like. 734754;1403831226;benkay;disregard them greencabbige it's an echo chamber 734755;1403831238;benkay;they just reinforce the same set of tired old mantras 734756;1403831241;benkay;"business is hard" 734757;1403831245;benkay;"mining is -ev" 734758;1403831256;benkay;fn cult i tell ya 734759;1403831300;mircea_popescu;actually it was more like "where's your books" and "why are you -96%" 734760;1403831303;mircea_popescu;but same principle. 734761;1403831428;assbot;RagnarDanneskjol +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 734762;1403831434;mircea_popescu;!up RagnarDanneskjol 734763;1403831452;benkay;is danneskjol some sort of proxy for "bitch of"? 734764;1403831458;benkay;linguistic transform 734765;1403831469;RagnarDanneskjol;bitch is my phone 734766;1403831497;benkay;right on 734767;1403831825;mircea_popescu;tlb brings a good point. how come in the war between spooks and techs, it's the TECHS that get accused of being mysogynistic ? 734768;1403831845;mircea_popescu;im pretty certain fewer women work for the nsa and generally for the us secret service community than for silicon valley firms 734769;1403831864;mircea_popescu;at least from the supposedly secret usg employment rolls i've seen to date. 734770;1403831983;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31042 @ 0.00082822 = 25.7096 BTC [+] {4} 734771;1403832131;mircea_popescu;"If I had to put my chips and my children against an 8 year rotation of civil service nincompoops vs. some nerd with an open marriage who spent $15M on a "bachelor pad" so he could score chicks of questionable emotional stability, I'm going with the group my private sector lawyers have an outside chance of pwoning." 734772;1403832135;mircea_popescu;somebody fundamentally gets it. 734773;1403832148;mircea_popescu;you don't fuck with people with bachelor pads and open relationships. 734774;1403832163;RagnarDanneskjol;HA 734775;1403832189;benkay;http://otakugangsta.com/post/90000203350 734776;1403832189;assbot;OTAKU GANGSTA 734777;1403832227;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00082416 = 7.9466 BTC [-] 734778;1403832388;dub;is there bitcoin for iphone yet? 734779;1403832410;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082372 = 4.2833 BTC [-] 734780;1403832446;mircea_popescu;iphcoin coming soon 734781;1403832468;benkay;man okay guys talk me off this cliff 734782;1403832473;benkay;iphone wallet 734783;1403832477;benkay;spv makes it possible right? 734784;1403832507;dub;blockchain has an iphone-app page 734785;1403832518;dub;clearly I dont have an iphone to check with 734786;1403832571;benkay;but a non api app 734787;1403832576;benkay;this is doable, i b'leev. 734788;1403832578;mike_c;https://github.com/voisine/breadwallet 734789;1403832579;assbot;voisine/breadwallet GitHub 734790;1403832599;benkay;k nm saved by the market 734791;1403832641;benkay;"WARNING: installation on jailbroken devices is strongly discouraged 734792;1403832642;benkay;" 734793;1403832658;dub;friend wants to accept buttcoin but suffer appleblight 734794;1403832705;dub;alternative is $50 droidphone i guess 734795;1403832763;bloctoc;dub coinpocket works 734796;1403833080;RagnarDanneskjol;tell him to try airwallet [disclosure, its hosted by me]. doesnt seem wise using appstore wallets as they might disappear tomorrow 734797;1403833323;bloctoc;coinpocket can export private key. not disparaging airwallet - just never used it. 734798;1403833325;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04299997 = 1.247 BTC [+] 734799;1403833418;assbot;alecpap +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 734800;1403833439;kakobrekla;!up alecpap 734801;1403833447;alecpap;kakobrekla, thanks 734802;1403833587;moiety;brb, imma actually have to add a pic on reddit to post. 734803;1403833996;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.01561 = 0.5776 BTC [-] {2} 734804;1403834484;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74350 @ 0.00082112 = 61.0503 BTC [-] {5} 734805;1403834639;punkman;http://np.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/296zn4/redditor_lost_20000_worth_of_bitcoin_due_to/ 734806;1403834641;assbot;Redditor lost ~$20,000 worth of bitcoin due to insecure wallet generator. /u/BtcRobinHood steps in and return the money to its rightful owner. : bestof 734807;1403834747;punkman;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/266hdb/psa_brainwalletorgs_random_button_uses_lowentropy/chovb50 734808;1403834747;assbot;btclittlejohn comments on PSA: brainwallet.org's "random" button uses low-entropy Math.random() 734809;1403834911;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00082374 = 12.4385 BTC [+] 734810;1403835094;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00082057 = 2.913 BTC [-] 734811;1403835130;thestringpuller;lulz 734812;1403835133;thestringpuller;moar lulz 734813;1403835277;mircea_popescu;lol 734814;1403835399;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44430 @ 0.00082019 = 36.441 BTC [-] {3} 734815;1403835460;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04397156 = 0.5277 BTC [+] {3} 734816;1403835461;mircea_popescu;Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities an 734817;1403835462;mircea_popescu;d NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500. 734818;1403835483;mircea_popescu;ok, quite splendid. the us is chock full of supposedly rich people who are about as powerless as a random south american whore 734819;1403835509;mircea_popescu;the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful is perhaps the lulziest part of the bezzle system. 734820;1403835537;thestringpuller;damn transaction scripts are hard to grasp at first 734821;1403835603;asciilifeform;the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful << actually the u.s. system is quite like the classical soviet world of 'special access' groceries, gov.-issued dachas, official limousines 734822;1403835641;asciilifeform;bureaucrat gets fellated in various little ways, in exchange for... a readiness to get down on his knees, ready to please. 734823;1403835652;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol think you know someone wanna do http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718932 ? 734824;1403835652;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 734825;1403835684;mircea_popescu;that'd be the exact antithesis of power. 734826;1403835691;asciilifeform;correct 734827;1403835717;asciilifeform;i.e. liveried servitude 734828;1403835784;mircea_popescu;!up RagnarDanneskjol 734829;1403835786;asciilifeform;american apparatchik gets a bag of bezzlars, 'his' to use to 'buy' manhattan penthouse. but same purpose as dacha near moscow issued to a similar creature 734830;1403835798;RagnarDanneskjol;I'm on it. pls standby 734831;1403835811;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform also with a sort of paper cert. 734832;1403835826;mircea_popescu;RagnarDanneskjol that's what i do all day anyway :D 734833;1403835839;punkman;http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/14/sportsbet-derails-betting-on-trains-after-metro-demands-cancellation/ 734834;1403835841;assbot;Sportsbet stops offering odds on Metro Trains | Crikey 734835;1403835859;RagnarDanneskjol;ha 734836;1403836367;decimation;re: liveried servitude << why? http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/06/the-great-fear-ethnocentrism-why-do.html 734837;1403836367;assbot;Council of European Canadians: The Great Fear --- Why do Whites Fear their own Ethnicity? 734838;1403836375;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082392 = 13.2651 BTC [+] {2} 734839;1403836375;asciilifeform;https://twitter.com/keystricken/status/481292361180258306 << that old rusty gizmo, still generating lulz 734840;1403836376;assbot;This is AMAZINGLY engrossing. http://t.co/TSOiUtbtwX 734841;1403836431;decimation;I find the main human weakness w.r.t. generating randomness is a great aversion to repeated outcomes 734842;1403836524;asciilifeform;for some reason, it's mostly female names/portraits linking to it these days. maybe mircea_popescu can shed light on why. 734843;1403836582;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform males got selected for decisive action, females for an ability to withstand brainhacking. 734844;1403836597;mircea_popescu;(the better ones get hacked by better guys thus make offspring that suvives better) 734845;1403836614;mircea_popescu;that thing doesn't look appealing to decisive action, but it does look insidiously like brain hacking. 734846;1403836638;*;asciilifeform made pet female play the 'game' shortly after first met. she beat the machine in about two minutes, by counting letters in words from memory, objects in surroundings, etc. 734847;1403836656;mircea_popescu;"Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy 734848;1403836672;decimation;"Of these speakers, Jeffrey Sachs, leading international economic adviser and director of the Earth Institute, is the most articulate in his explicit admission that we must follow the ideology of diversity regardless of what the scientific evidence says." 734849;1403836680;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00081924 = 25.4784 BTC [-] {2} 734850;1403836712;decimation;mircea, in many US states it is illeagal to record conversations without both party's explict permission 734851;1403836721;asciilifeform;(the cpp version thereof) 734852;1403836790;mircea_popescu;decimation well yes. 734853;1403836815;decimation;the primary purpose of such laws is to protect corrupt politicians from being exposed, of course 734854;1403836817;mircea_popescu;in those same other states it's illegal to present yourself as a "leading international adviser" while you're a sort of rsm. 734855;1403836856;decimation;rsm ? 734856;1403836871;mircea_popescu;!s from:rsm 734857;1403836872;assbot;5 results for 'from:rsm' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Arsm 734858;1403836939;decimation;are you propsing that Professor Sachs belongs in the same category as bitcoin scammers? 734859;1403837046;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8511 @ 0.00082398 = 7.0129 BTC [+] 734860;1403837049;mircea_popescu;i do, yes. 734861;1403837054;mircea_popescu;what's he done ? 734862;1403837084;mircea_popescu;i mean other than running the markov chain apparatus of opinion. 734863;1403837090;decimation;actually I think that's kind of an insult to the scammers 734864;1403837101;decimation;at least they ran some risk, he just collects his tenure pay 734865;1403837122;mircea_popescu;notrly. they don't run any risk if they can help it. and besides, he was young once, he ran the risk of no tenure. 734866;1403837126;mircea_popescu;a very bad risk, from what i hear. 734867;1403837151;decimation;true. getting tenure in the us university is a nightmare, from what I've heard 734868;1403837173;decimation;in fact his entire behavior seems perfectly consistant with your quote from ascii's link http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729369 734869;1403837173;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 734870;1403837205;mircea_popescu;actually, i will readily PROVE to you he's exactly in the same category. 734871;1403837209;mircea_popescu;http://blockchain.info/address/1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ know what this is ? 734872;1403837209;assbot;Bitcoin Address 1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ 734873;1403837274;decimation;interestingly it pops up in a link on the last pscyhiactrist's blog 734874;1403837286;mircea_popescu;interestingly, it's his donation address. with 6 bitcents in it. 734875;1403837309;mircea_popescu;tlp makes less than trilema. that's my proof sachs = rsm. 734876;1403837312;mircea_popescu;acceptable ? 734877;1403837321;RagnarDanneskjol;http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/9022-why-jeffrey-sachs-matters 734878;1403837322;assbot;Why Jeffrey Sachs matters 734879;1403837340;RagnarDanneskjol;Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL 734880;1403837355;decimation;so to be clear, you are pointing out that someone who actually has original thoughts has a few bitcents, while sachs is raking in the speaking fees? 734881;1403837380;mircea_popescu;no. i am pointing out that someone whose brain works quite well but who wastes his time THERE rather than hire makes piddly squat. 734882;1403837385;mircea_popescu;and the THERE is the there of sachs. 734883;1403837399;mircea_popescu;s/hire/here, apparently dyslexia is contagious 734884;1403837503;mircea_popescu;so, the argument goes, invest your btc with rsm, 4% left in three years 734885;1403837514;mircea_popescu;or invest your intelligence with the bezzle, 4% left in thirty years ? 734886;1403837522;mircea_popescu;in the end, the fuck's the difference. 734887;1403837578;extra;hey guys so 734888;1403837587;extra;i'm meeting the coinbase co-founders at a Q&A tomorrow 734889;1403837593;extra;any questions you want me to ask them ? 734890;1403837629;mircea_popescu;what's their burn rate, or alternatively how long they got. 734891;1403837733;decimation;are they planning on actually making a real exchange on us soil? 734892;1403837782;extra;good Q 734893;1403837797;decimation;if so, how many regulators in how many states have they met with? how many lawyers retained? 734894;1403837804;decimation;because if the answer is 0, they are just dicking around 734895;1403838021;bloctoc;if the answer is more than 0 they are double plus dicking around 734896;1403838043;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyers-12.jpg << this just in 734897;1403838086;decimation;bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds 734898;1403838113;decimation;it's interesting that this kind of wealth exists today in bitcoin yet no one is willing to spend it on bureaucracy 734899;1403838159;mircea_popescu;decimation nah, it's not that bad 734900;1403838167;decimation;mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema? 734901;1403838179;mircea_popescu;bout half ? 734902;1403838193;mircea_popescu;doesn't really matter anyway, a kid that's not bilingual is not literate anyway 734903;1403838208;decimation;there's much truth to that 734904;1403838226;mircea_popescu;letters used to come with latin in a package for this reason 734905;1403838323;decimation;mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying 734906;1403838329;decimation;at least, not without making any noise about it 734907;1403838344;mircea_popescu;it[s not that clearly profitable. 734908;1403838367;decimation;well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing 734909;1403838369;mircea_popescu;you're grossly overestimating what it'd cost, it's maybe over 1mn but pretty sure under 10. 734910;1403838390;decimation;you would have to engage lawyers in 50 states and DC for sure 734911;1403838396;decimation;or start small and build up 734912;1403838400;mircea_popescu;nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn 734913;1403838417;mircea_popescu;well done, almost paid with your legalese bill. let's hope all advertising was free 734914;1403838436;decimation;surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play 734915;1403838437;mircea_popescu;but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux 734916;1403838447;mircea_popescu;yah, and they'll use your exchange 734917;1403838449;mircea_popescu;because why ? 734918;1403838454;decimation;heh good point 734919;1403838508;mircea_popescu;the us "market" is underserved for a reason. you can't get good wine, either, nor good cheese 734920;1403838523;mircea_popescu;nor good bread nor actual linen shirts nor steel engine blocks. 734921;1403838534;mircea_popescu;none of these'd be hard to do, legally. 734922;1403838806;mircea_popescu;the practicalities of a healthy sex life in argentina : as everywhere in south america, abortions are illegal here. 734923;1403838826;mircea_popescu;the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river. 734924;1403838882;asciilifeform;wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay. 734925;1403838921;decimation;what about portable nuclear reactors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Nuclear_Power_Program 734926;1403838921;assbot;Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 734927;1403838949;*;asciilifeform doesn't own one 734928;1403838962;moiety;any redditors around? 734929;1403838973;decimation;So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone 734930;1403838974;asciilifeform;wtf is a redditor 734931;1403838982;moiety;people who reddit 734932;1403838987;mircea_popescu;decimation those aren't really something you'd want 734933;1403838990;moiety;apparently 734934;1403838993;*;asciilifeform did once 734935;1403838999;decimation;then use the energy to convert carbon via fischer-troph to synthetic fuel 734936;1403839001;mircea_popescu;did you get banned ? 734937;1403839008;moiety;not yet 734938;1403839013;moiety;oh asciilifeform lol 734939;1403839030;asciilifeform;http://www.reddit.com/user/asciilifeform 734940;1403839031;assbot;overview for asciilifeform 734941;1403839035;asciilifeform;apparently not banned yet 734942;1403839051;decimation;they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm 734943;1403839051;assbot;Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 734944;1403839110;decimation;my point is that many americans and 'allies' died in Afghanistan and Iraq transporting fuel to bases 734945;1403839140;decimation;they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty 734946;1403839184;mircea_popescu;more like because it doesn't work so well. 734947;1403839202;decimation;what, nuclear fission? 734948;1403839210;mircea_popescu;portable nuclear reacors 734949;1403839254;decimation;well, like any engineering project it depends on the design 734950;1403839323;mircea_popescu;So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic Field of Dreams approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis 734951;1403839323;mircea_popescu;er, irrigation, and better seeds. 734952;1403839323;mircea_popescu;But the MVP didnt simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, Pineapple couldnt be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour. The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didnt come. 734953;1403839326;mircea_popescu;ahjahahaha o god. 734954;1403839355;mircea_popescu;i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people" 734955;1403839378;mircea_popescu;all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs. 734956;1403839417;asciilifeform;incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one. 734957;1403839443;mircea_popescu;Of course, Sachs knows that its critical to understand market dynamics; hes one of the worlds smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders. 734958;1403839443;mircea_popescu;Warren Buffett likes to say, The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield. Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out. 734959;1403839443;mircea_popescu;All of the interventions involved health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didnt work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation 734960;1403839453;mircea_popescu;dude wants more taxes. that's the way! 734961;1403839483;mircea_popescu;and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere. 734962;1403839493;mircea_popescu;this sort of prose should be a penal offense. 734963;1403839575;decimation;"Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic 734964;1403839577;decimation;individuals inside hotels, restaurants, and conferences. " 734965;1403839607;mircea_popescu;heh 734966;1403839625;mircea_popescu;yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel. 734967;1403839655;mircea_popescu;they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last 734968;1403839661;mircea_popescu;and left the flap up 734969;1403839677;decimation;right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours 734970;1403839699;decimation;so therefore, open the third world's floodgates 734971;1403839733;mircea_popescu;the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered. 734972;1403839768;mircea_popescu;"But thats not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ? 734973;1403839783;mircea_popescu;"dude failed but that's ok, he worked hard". wtf just how rotten is that mental space. 734974;1403839797;decimation;there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten 734975;1403839877;decimation;in the same way that ascii's hunter finds that the deer walk up to him and lay down 734976;1403840373;decimation;mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple 734977;1403840374;assbot;Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 734978;1403840387;decimation;"In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure" 734979;1403840432;mircea_popescu;why's that so helpful ? 734980;1403840611;decimation;it makes the situation plain as day: there is no allodial title outside the government 734981;1403840635;decimation;plenty of people in the west think that they 'own' their land 734982;1403840708;decimation;in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land 734983;1403840757;mircea_popescu;sucks for hawaii 734984;1403840768;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0420004 = 0.63 BTC [-] 734985;1403840810;mircea_popescu;anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title 734986;1403840817;mircea_popescu;it was phased out mostly at the owner's request. 734987;1403840818;decimation;Herr Walker has a new book review: http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2014-06/001521.html 734988;1403840818;assbot;Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason) 734989;1403840905;decimation;I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing 734990;1403840908;mircea_popescu;omfg the blue 734991;1403840934;decimation;browse in 'links' 734992;1403841012;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34034 @ 0.00082246 = 27.9916 BTC [-] {4} 734993;1403841125;decimation;the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change." 734994;1403841157;decimation;I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect 734995;1403841197;mircea_popescu;maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic 734996;1403841829;mircea_popescu;the guy does have one excellent point tho : if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your assets into a hedge probably far exceeds the marginal utility of putting the other 90% 734997;1403841970;mircea_popescu;"Roughly half the counties in our nation lack a single OB/GYN physician to care for women." 734998;1403841974;mircea_popescu;guess the country. 734999;1403841988;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00081919 = 29.4089 BTC [-] {2} 735000;1403842012;asciilifeform;usa 735001;1403842101;decimation;yeah ob/gyn is a known target for legal scammers in the us 735002;1403842109;decimation;your kid comes out a 'tard - it's the doctor's faul 735003;1403842302;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your << there is another possible observation here. quite a few of the folks who might otherwise take an interest in bitcoin are 'collapse pessimists' - i.e. believe in the 'lead standard.' 735004;1403842350;decimation;yeah it's interesting that the "lead standard" crowd seems to have not adopted bitcoin 735005;1403842354;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.04113518 = 2.139 BTC [-] {4} 735006;1403842364;asciilifeform;(why a fellow who could afford to mount some semblance of adequate preparation for lead standard would stay in usa, is a question for them - not me) 735007;1403842390;asciilifeform;best hypothesis i know of - some folks want to 'die well' rather than live 735008;1403842460;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/patriarchy-is-a-thing-because-nobody-likes-living-in-a-world-populated-by-little-girls/ 735009;1403842484;decimation;yeah the amusing thing about most of those types is that they seem to want to "own" their own own bunker or whatever, rather than the more obvious strategy of "recruit army, train" 735010;1403842508;asciilifeform;'recruit army' in peacetime generally gets you 'hutareed' 735011;1403842513;asciilifeform;;;google hutaree 735012;1403842514;gribble;Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Judge acquits 7 Hutaree militia members accused of terrorist ...: ; hutaree - YouTube: 735013;1403842541;asciilifeform;(minus the acquittal, normally) 735014;1403842543;decimation;well, you certainly cannot make usg your enemy either 735015;1403842575;asciilifeform;if you organize anything in usa that even vaguely resembles an army from a distance, you've made the enemy 735016;1403842691;asciilifeform;i dare say the folks who want to stick around to enjoy a hypothetical north american zimbabwe (usa minus mains current, sewer, water) are justifiably disinterested in btc 735017;1403842790;asciilifeform;speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit 735018;1403842817;asciilifeform;walking trails in public parks here are, for various reasons, built on top of sewer mains (cheap right of way?) 735019;1403842845;asciilifeform;sometimes, you'll encounter a structure that looks like this: 735020;1403842846;asciilifeform;http://www.cityofoviedo.net/files/Utility%20Water-Wastewater%20Pictures%20008.jpg 735021;1403842873;asciilifeform;that's a 'lift station.' normally sewer is operated by gravity. but often, for reasons of cost, a pipe will be laid uphill. 735022;1403842882;asciilifeform;and one of these (electric pump) is built. 735023;1403842900;asciilifeform;no mains current - no flow. 735024;1403843037;decimation;this is a big problem in the maryland/dc area because it's a swamp 735025;1403843048;decimation;there's not much "downhill" to be had 735026;1403843048;asciilifeform;correct. 735027;1403843148;decimation;my own understanding of many of the 'trails' the DC area is that they were mostly railroad right-of-ways 735028;1403843168;asciilifeform;mostly from the (destroyed) trolley system from the first half of 20th c. 735029;1403843201;decimation;yep. here's an example: https://www.traillink.com/trail/wba-trail.aspx 735030;1403843203;assbot;WB&A Trail | Maryland Trails | TrailLink.com 735031;1403843253;decimation;they only reason the right-of-ways survived coherently is because utilities like power were still in use long after the railroads went bankrupt 735032;1403843269;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00081854 = 20.6272 BTC [-] {2} 735033;1403843436;decimation;it's quite enlightening to study the ownership path of the right-of-way deeds. One realizes that us infrastructure is pretty much like openssl: everyone knows it's a horrible pit, everyone uses it, no will to 'fix' it 735034;1403843449;asciilifeform;this, incidentally, is also where you find fiber. 735035;1403843457;asciilifeform;conveniently marked for enemy saboteurs. 735036;1403843531;asciilifeform;(usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro) 735037;1403843618;decimation;there was another amusing example in the DC area a few years ago, after the "derecho" thunderstorm. power was out everywher - why? because none of the treehuggers would let the power-line clearances be maintained 735038;1403843632;decimation;result: constant loss of power (especially in older neighborhoods like in PG county) 735039;1403843654;asciilifeform;more complicated. the tree trimmers routinely cut fiber (likewise strung overhead) 735040;1403843657;asciilifeform;and so people resist them. 735041;1403843675;asciilifeform;(trunk lines are buried; houses usually have pole connections) 735042;1403843695;decimation;yeah most cable companies "rent" the low wire on power poles 735043;1403843709;asciilifeform;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/30/AR2009053002114.html 735044;1403843709;assbot;The One Fiber Optic Cable No One on the Dig for Tysons Rail Wants to Hit 735045;1403843713;asciilifeform;^ incident in question 735046;1403843818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.041 = 1.025 BTC [-] {2} 735047;1403843925;decimation;I found the metro to be generally useless 735048;1403843941;decimation;it takes an hour to get downtown, stopping at every useless ghetto on the way 735049;1403843967;mircea_popescu;* RUchamp_ (a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.227.84.203) has joined #bitcoin-assets << dear chan, since i've made that 0.1 btc for titties post, mind voicing new names off webchat for a while ? 735050;1403843970;asciilifeform;city can't really exist without something like metro. (trivial arithmetic - calculate what fraction of city would have to be demolished for parking lots if every bureaucrat had to drive in.) 735051;1403843976;mircea_popescu;it's in the interest of greater titage. 735052;1403844040;decimation;I guess my real point is that much of DC is an uninhabitable mad max land 735053;1403844051;decimation;and the parts that aren't are bezzle-priced 735054;1403844159;mircea_popescu;why are survivalist group womenz always so a) rare and b) unattractive 735055;1403844213;decimation;I think most women (quite practically) would rather die than live in mad max land 735056;1403844245;mircea_popescu;why ? 735057;1403844282;decimation;what portion of humanity would commit suicide if they were transported to 100 AD sans iphones? 735058;1403844343;mircea_popescu;i imagine more boys than girls at any rate. 735059;1403844351;mircea_popescu;no porn right ? 735060;1403844359;decimation;heh good point 735061;1403844422;decimation;!up mgio 735062;1403845214;mircea_popescu;I can get 1 CME every 25-50 seconds, depending on my ability to click "b". 735063;1403845216;mircea_popescu;ahaha o boy 735064;1403845312;decimation;as in "continuing medical education"? 735065;1403845340;mircea_popescu;yea 735066;1403845357;dub;hey, doing drugs is studying medicine 735067;1403845375;mircea_popescu;press b 735068;1403845381;decimation;too bad you can't sell your credits 735069;1403845404;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00081831 = 9.4106 BTC [-] 735070;1403845493;decimation;are you working on maintaining your medical license with the state? 735071;1403845516;mircea_popescu;who me ?! 735072;1403845569;decimation;well, why else would you be trying to hoard CME credits? 735073;1403845583;mircea_popescu;im just reading this dude's site 735074;1403845616;decimation;ah the last pscychiatrist guy? 735075;1403845620;mircea_popescu;ya 735076;1403845664;mircea_popescu;i really can't see myself getting a license from anyone to anyting. 735077;1403845771;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081799 = 10.0613 BTC [-] {2} 735078;1403845969;mgio;hello everyone 735079;1403845981;mircea_popescu;hi 735080;1403846112;mircea_popescu;The logic of a 10 year MOC exam is to keep us up to date, so it's fair to ask: what in psychiatry has changed in ten years, what are the major advances? Depakote was discovered to be the default maintenance mood stabilizer despite no evidence supporting this, but that fell into disuse at a time oddly coinciding with its patent expiration, which is suspicious but I'm no epidemiologist. Anyway, it wasn't on the test. Any 735081;1403846112;mircea_popescu;thing else? A few new medicines have come out, though none of them appeared on the test either. There's money to be made on the west coast using giant magnets, (fortunately) also not on the test. So? Was the ABPN worried I'd forget how to use MAOIs? I'm never going to use them, I have enough problems monitoring Xanax. The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry 735082;1403846113;mircea_popescu;has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam. 735083;1403846116;mircea_popescu;there. 735084;1403846130;mircea_popescu;maybe i should spend my money printing fliers of this guy's blog instead. 735085;1403846364;mircea_popescu;most of the comments are derping about the guy's identity 735086;1403846369;mircea_popescu;i wasn't aware this was a secret 735087;1403846424;decimation;the history of medicene is mostly about trying to heal people but failing miserably 735088;1403846446;decimation;why should someone in this age have a different conceit? 735089;1403846467;mircea_popescu;depends how you look at it. 735090;1403846503;mircea_popescu;do you suppose medicine is responsible for all health ? or just for those cases it picks up ? 735091;1403846522;decimation;well no one can be responsible for everything 735092;1403846530;decimation;so the latter 735093;1403846544;mircea_popescu;but currently it's mostly regarded as "the health of the population" is a thing. 735094;1403846582;mircea_popescu;by the latter criterion i'd guess medicine is mostly successful 735095;1403846598;mircea_popescu;just as long as you don't try curing things that don't have a cure 735096;1403846656;decimation;like for instance, your brain has the crazy 735097;1403846679;decimation;!up Cory 735098;1403846713;mircea_popescu;i'd be kinda curious to see how a country worked where the cure for insanity was 2 years in parliament. 735099;1403846739;mircea_popescu;and they put in padded cells the sorts of idiots that wish to spend their time running for an office instead. 735100;1403846844;decimation;I'd say most democratic systems have created this situation anyway. What kind of person wants to be a bureaucrat who appears to be in charge yet can affect nothing? 735101;1403846893;mircea_popescu;actually that's the most appealing. 735102;1403846915;mircea_popescu;ask anyone, would they rather fuck a bunch of women, or would they rather not fuck at all but be regarded by their peers as a modern casanova ? 735103;1403846947;decimation;good point, except in the former case they would be considered pond scum 735104;1403846957;mircea_popescu;hardly. 735105;1403846974;mircea_popescu;maybe by racist xenophobe male chauvinist reactionaries 735106;1403847009;decimation;lol 735107;1403847019;mircea_popescu;y con queso 735108;1403847019;decimation;Congress has a 5% approval rating 735109;1403847028;decimation;yet most congressmen get re-elected 735110;1403847052;decimation;I guess the shame of the institution doesn't attach to its individual members 735111;1403847127;decimation;I suppose there's a reason that the Washington Monument is a giant phallus, welcoming the incoming classes of young interns 735112;1403847330;mircea_popescu;lol the only reason they get re-elected is the seniority system 735113;1403847432;decimation;you think the median voter knows about committee appointments? 735114;1403847539;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00082031 = 4.1836 BTC [+] 735115;1403847617;mircea_popescu;no, but it makes no difference 735116;1403847631;mircea_popescu;it's like asking me if the median fridge user knows about the carnot cycle 735117;1403847669;decimation;people vote the party their parents voted generally 735118;1403847676;decimation;so it's a demographic thing, seems to me 735119;1403847691;FabianB;"<+mircea_popescu> FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ?" << number of unconfirmed transactions in btc network 735120;1403847746;mircea_popescu;i think it only appears demographic because there's allignment between the actual causes and demographics. 735121;1403847750;mircea_popescu;FabianB a nice! 735122;1403847754;mircea_popescu;$unconfirmed 735123;1403847754;empyex;mircea_popescu: 2039 735124;1403847777;mircea_popescu;are you well connected enough to do a $dblspent ? 735125;1403847783;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00082031 = 11.8945 BTC [+] 735126;1403847956;FabianB;mircea_popescu: source is not one of my own bitcoind but blockchain.info currently 735127;1403847981;mircea_popescu;ah 735128;1403848000;mircea_popescu;well it may be useful if you're into the nitty gritty of it, merchants could always query your service if in doubt 735129;1403848019;mircea_popescu;kinda larger sort of investment to make it go, i guess. 735130;1403848021;FabianB;hmm.. will think about dblspent 735131;1403848027;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00081835 = 32.8977 BTC [-] 735132;1403848096;mircea_popescu;having a few dedicated trusted watchers certainly cheaper than "everyone" doing their own watching, and certainly better than current situation (where most everyone doesn't do any) 735133;1403848500;FabianB;yeah, source should be more decentralized for that than https://blockchain.info/double-spends probably 735134;1403848500;assbot;Bitcoin Double Spends - Blockchain.info 735135;1403848632;mircea_popescu;well if you run your own node(s) with good peerage it'd come from there 735136;1403848651;mircea_popescu;otherwise tgere;'s little value to just you know, making a web url alias 735137;1403848679;FabianB;yeah 735138;1403848714;mircea_popescu;so romania's other great blogger switched to english : http://www.jeg.ro/adrian-ghenie-pace-gallery-london-golems-looking-at-the-art-world-over-adrian-ghenie-s-shoulder-and-why-i-hate-i-or-love-it-not-sure/ 735139;1403848716;assbot;Looking at the art world over Adrian Ghenies shoulder and why I hate it or love it. Not sure. 735140;1403848726;mircea_popescu;romania now has pretty much no bloggers left at all. 735141;1403848783;decimation;would you say the portion of youth in romania who speak english is equal to argentina's portion? 735142;1403848792;mircea_popescu;pretty much 735143;1403848803;mircea_popescu;i never met an intelligent young man that couldn't read it 735144;1403848810;mircea_popescu;now actually speaking it... 735145;1403848942;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12946 @ 0.00081804 = 10.5903 BTC [-] {2} 735146;1403848953;mircea_popescu;Its so dark a still ignorant third friend completed. Couldnt see her complexion, probably because it was in fact so dark. She wasnt black, but thatd be something, right? 735147;1403848955;mircea_popescu;!up conwke 735148;1403849206;decimation;wtf does that mean? 735149;1403849220;mircea_popescu;it's a quoter 735150;1403849236;decimation;hehe 735151;1403849295;conwke;I haven't used IRC in years, its strange being back on 735152;1403849347;mircea_popescu;enjoi. 735153;1403849389;mircea_popescu;and im off. nn ppls! 735154;1403850101;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.00354788 = 1.0644 BTC [-] {10} 735155;1403850650;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21536 @ 0.00081785 = 17.6132 BTC [-] {2} 735156;1403852358;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00081783 = 16.2748 BTC [-] 735157;1403852785;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00081845 = 16.8191 BTC [+] 735158;1403853212;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5216 @ 0.00081783 = 4.2658 BTC [-] 735159;1403853395;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48394 @ 0.00081912 = 39.6405 BTC [+] {3} 735160;1403854615;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.043 = 0.645 BTC [-] 735161;1403854920;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20172 @ 0.00081871 = 16.515 BTC [-] {3} 735162;1403855276;fluffypony;xmj:fluffypony: are you on skype? <- yes, fluffypony on Skype 735163;1403855286;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 595 @ 0.00237886 = 1.4154 BTC [+] {2} 735164;1403856120;BingoBoingo;fluffypony: How's the thing? 735165;1403856120;pankkake;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=405986.msg7531748#msg7531748 735166;1403856121;assbot;{BFL} Here's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK at your Monarch! 735167;1403856149;fluffypony;BingoBoingo: quite nice so far, but all I've really done is arrive, have a few drinks, and then have breakfast 735168;1403856158;fluffypony;will put up a blog post later today when I get a moment 735169;1403856159;pankkake;if someone still doubted this guy had serious mental troubles 735170;1403856234;fluffypony;lolwut 735171;1403856242;BingoBoingo;pankkake: How trollish are you feeling today? 735172;1403856270;pankkake;I've trolled all week, I'm nearing the end of my streak 735173;1403856271;pankkake;why? 735174;1403856363;BingoBoingo;pankkake: An experiment details in PM 735175;1403856384;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19625 @ 0.00082158 = 16.1235 BTC [+] 735176;1403856629;pankkake;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7953134 735177;1403856629;assbot;DogeCoin and Dystopia | Hacker News 735178;1403856933;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15934 @ 0.00082158 = 13.0911 BTC [+] 735179;1403857086;BingoBoingo;Church collapses http://www.chron.com/news/article/People-trapped-after-building-collapse-near-Katy-5582104.php 735180;1403857087;assbot;Dozens hurt at house party as room over garage collapses - Houston Chronicle 735181;1403857321;punkman;do you guys make floors out of drywall 735182;1403857400;BingoBoingo;punkman: Maybe... 735183;1403857850;punkman;why can't I have something like this on *nix, http://poshconsole.codeplex.com/ 735184;1403857851;assbot;PoshConsole - Home 735185;1403858456;pankkake;http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3657661 735186;1403858457;assbot;Jackson Palmer leaving Dogecoin - Slashdot 735187;1403858577;pankkake;punkman: https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology 735188;1403858578;assbot;Terminology 735189;1403858630;pankkake;but yeah, I wish we had consoles with non-text elements 735190;1403858662;pankkake;you might say "GUIs", but I want them in screen, in ssh, and be keyboard driven only 735191;1403858674;pankkake;or at least, mainly, since you can use the mouse in some console applications… 735192;1403858709;punkman;I just figured out how to do clickable text that opens a URL in browser 735193;1403858752;punkman;guess I'll have to popup another window for graphs 735194;1403858764;punkman;or save to image file 735195;1403858909;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1x0ncb/rdogecoin_is_turning_into_rbitcoin/ lol 735196;1403858910;assbot;r/dogecoin is turning into r/bitcoin : dogecoin 735197;1403858924;pankkake;I love browsing with the "controversial" sort 735198;1403858982;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2586pm/censorship_in_rdogecoin/ 735199;1403858984;assbot;Censorship in r/dogecoin : dogecoin 735200;1403859007;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0404469 = 0.6067 BTC [-] 735201;1403859068;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0404469 = 0.5258 BTC [-] 735202;1403859353;punkman;http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/ 735203;1403859354;assbot;On TermKit Acko.net 735204;1403859398;punkman;node.js + webkit what could go wrong 735205;1403859553;pankkake;right, I've seen that one before. but as I understand it, he merged the shell and the terminal emulator 735206;1403859617;pankkake;some friends tried to do something similar (though it was to use existing applications), but it went nowhere too 735207;1403859953;punkman;pankkake: also found a hack I could copy from another app. It checks window size, makes a full-sized background, then pastes your smaller image on the right coordinates. 735208;1403859995;punkman;but fuck it, I'm just gonna pop up a window with matplotlib 735209;1403861325;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00082295 = 6.9951 BTC [+] 735210;1403861813;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17998 @ 0.00081767 = 14.7164 BTC [-] {2} 735211;1403861978;jurov;"yes i have loads of old spreadsheets." yay, the stuff that makes plants grow 735212;1403862118;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0008175 = 10.8728 BTC [-] {2} 735213;1403862387;ThickAsThieves;"The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. 735214;1403862472;ThickAsThieves;http://origin-www.bloomberg.com/quote/0881422D:US 735215;1403862473;assbot;0881422D: Stock Quote - Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust - Bloomberg 735216;1403862667;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0404469 = 1.0112 BTC [+] 735217;1403863338;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00082303 = 26.0489 BTC [+] {3} 735218;1403863766;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00081701 = 21.7733 BTC [-] {3} 735219;1403863840;davout;ThickAsThieves: lulzy 735220;1403864028;punkman;"How much the hippos like Colombia can be judged from how much sex they are having. In Africa they usually become sexually active between the ages of seven and nine for males, and nine and 11 for females, but Pablo Escobar's hippos are becoming sexually active as young as three." 735221;1403864049;punkman;pedohippo 735222;1403864085;davout;hippos are very horny 735223;1403864093;punkman;"One hippo is to blame for the move upriver. Hippos live in harems. The alpha male at the Hacienda is known as El Viejo - The Old Man - and he is very powerful" 735224;1403864494;[]bot;Bet placed: 3.9794 BTC for Yes on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 59(Y):41(N) by coin, 54(Y):46(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.66613193 BTC. Current weight: 51,289. 735225;1403864718;punkman;120 petahashes now 735226;1403865237;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/298byf/fderp_a_new_bitcoin_shortonly_hedge_fund/ 735227;1403865237;assbot;F.DERP, A New Bitcoin Short-Only Hedge Fund Targeting Major Bitcoin Startups : CryptoCurrency 735228;1403865317;BingoBoingo;^ hopefully lulz accumulate 735229;1403865328;pankkake;why on this subreddit? 735230;1403865444;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Lower traffic, lingers on the front page longer... 735231;1403866761;pankkake;http://bitcoinist.net/appcoins-are-fraudulent/ 735232;1403866762;assbot;Appcoins Are Fraudulent ‹ Bitcoinist.net 735233;1403866887;Mats_cd03;;;bc,stats 735234;1403866889;gribble;Current Blocks: 308095 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 352 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16687183806.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.95235 735235;1403867265;punkman;another 25%, damn 735236;1403867812;BingoBoingo;Fuck 735237;1403867920;Mats_cd03;lol 735238;1403867957;Mats_cd03;lost a bitbet? 735239;1403868096;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.04047873 = 8.0957 BTC [-] {10} 735240;1403868148;BingoBoingo;Looks like the Bastille day one... 735241;1403868157;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04 = 0.56 BTC [-] 735242;1403868631;cazalla;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/ 735243;1403868632;assbot;Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin 735244;1403868777;BingoBoingo;Prolly the best TLP article http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html 735245;1403868778;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: The Most Important Article On Psychiatry You Will Ever Read 735246;1403868889;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00082241 = 11.1437 BTC [+] 735247;1403868926;BingoBoingo;Also http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/08/4_unintended_consequences_of_s.html 735248;1403868927;assbot;The Last Psychiatrist: 4 Unintended Consequences of Seroquel's Adjunct to Antidepressants Indication 735249;1403869134;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0008234 = 20.091 BTC [+] 735250;1403869386;Mats_cd03;lol 'classic alpha male' 735251;1403869406;Mats_cd03;dummy need to read a biology book 735252;1403869417;Mats_cd03;^needs 735253;1403869488;BingoBoingo;Hmmm... pankakke's masterpiece of #b-a blogs pissing on Doge seems to be a Maybe, but it is a slow news day... 735254;1403869499;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04397803 = 0.8356 BTC [+] {2} 735255;1403869560;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00082311 = 20.9893 BTC [-] {2} 735256;1403869564;ThickAsThieves;mp just gets extra-provocative on a New Moon 735257;1403869621;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27041 @ 0.00082206 = 22.2293 BTC [-] {2} 735258;1403869645;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Sh... If reddit ever found out he had a lunar cycle... 735259;1403869686;ThickAsThieves;the WereBaron 735260;1403869695;pankkake;:D 735261;1403869715;BingoBoingo;Oh, I was thinking the other 28 day cycle... 735262;1403869744;Mats_cd03;har 735263;1403869748;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EVVH1E.txt ) 735264;1403869748;BingoBoingo;!b 5 735265;1403869792;Mats_cd03;as far as alpha male goes.. 735266;1403869806;ThickAsThieves;chetty think of it this way, do you believe that mp thinks women should literally be raped? I assume you'd answer No. In that case, what is he really trying to say? Or, at worst, what point can be extracted from the trolling. This is the nature of most mp rants and provocation. Each a test of your filters. 735267;1403869838;Mats_cd03;my poor american education tells me you have to be wed and spawn to be classed so 735268;1403869855;pankkake;"a test of your filters". eh, I guess this is one of the best descriptions so far 735269;1403869870;pankkake;(I haven't read the article yet, I'm 3 behind…) 735270;1403869922;chetty;well I think that article is a prime example of the confusion between sex/rape and assault/rape. he makes the long standing point about not knowing what you dont know but then it gets messy 735271;1403869926;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00081975 = 15.6572 BTC [-] 735272;1403869978;chetty;I think rape is a topic he should stay off, at least until he gets raped and knows what it is 735273;1403869980;Mats_cd03;http://us.wsj.com/articles/google-starts-removing-search-results-under-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-1403774023 courts corrupted by nonsense, again 735274;1403870014;ThickAsThieves;he's playing to your sensitivities, which, by nature, is bound to be insensitive 735275;1403870024;Mats_cd03;oops wsj.com/articles/google-starts-removing-search-results-under-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-1403774023 735276;1403870025;ThickAsThieves;I try not to do that, but mp loves it 735277;1403870088;chetty;normally I support the way he does that, it really does make people think. But everything has limits 735278;1403870250;chetty;http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-26/nirp-strikes-spain-create-tax-bank-deposits 735279;1403870250;assbot;NIRP Strikes: Spain To Create Tax On Bank Deposits | Zero Hedge 735280;1403870308;chetty;translation: banksters can't have it all, we gubermint types get our cut first 735281;1403870312;ThickAsThieves;You could flip it on him; what insecurities put him in a position to be insensitive and provocative? In what ways is he enslaved by his nature? Why is he trying to understand the nature of rape and taboos? 735282;1403870356;pankkake;chetty: this is funny how the Euro really doesn't work; countries resort to things that have the same effects as printing money themselves 735283;1403870412;ThickAsThieves;maybe he just wants to be loved and the world he's created for himself leaves no room for it, and thus maybe constructs one that makes his seem ideal 735284;1403870418;penguirker;New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/ 735285;1403870427;ThickAsThieves;just thinking out loud 735286;1403870452;chetty;deconstructing MP, fun pastime 735287;1403870597;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00081975 = 6.476 BTC [-] 735288;1403870629;chetty;pankkake, its fun to watch the lament about the poor 'unbanked' while they drive people away from banks 735289;1403870689;pankkake;MP just wants to be loved. 735290;1403870775;chetty;hmm or perhaps worshiped 735291;1403871573;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00081753 = 23.6266 BTC [-] 735292;1403871735;ThickAsThieves;"I doubt even 0.1% people here support rape of any kind." lol 735293;1403871779;Mats_cd03;It’s the dream of every living creature. The desire that is the very root of life itself: to grow until all the space you can see is part of you, under your control. It’s the desire for greatness. There are two ways, though, to fulfill it. One way is to kill anything that is not yourself, to swallow it up or destroy it, until nothing is left to oppose 735294;1403871779;Mats_cd03;you. You say to all the universe, Only I will be great, and to make room for me the rest of you must give up even what you already have, and become nothing. 735295;1403871830;Mats_cd03;The other way is an exercise for the reader. 735296;1403871916;ThickAsThieves;;;google What percentage of people support rape? 735297;1403871916;gribble;The Offenders | RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network: ; Who are the Victims? - Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network: ; Rape statistics - The Hathor Legacy: 735298;1403871939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00081657 = 3.3479 BTC [-] 735299;1403872533;BingoBoingo;Node behavior battles have begun: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298gmv/bitcoin_miner_txselection_prioritisation_as_a/ 735300;1403872533;assbot;Bitcoin miner TX-selection: "prioritisation as a business model encourages centralisation and is incompatible with p2pool. Very harmful patch" : Bitcoin 735301;1403872579;pankkake;lol that peter todd… 735302;1403872622;BingoBoingo;It hasn't been a good month for him, next should be worse 735303;1403872628;pankkake;the patch isn't harmful in the sense at it's just an user interface option. it always was possible, and pools are offering it already 735304;1403872782;pankkake;hm apparently OP_RETURN is by default not relayed. but if it ever is, I might patch my node :) 735305;1403872976;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28617 @ 0.00081644 = 23.3641 BTC [-] {2} 735306;1403872976;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.0400008 = 1.4 BTC [-] {4} 735307;1403872990;pankkake;feminists selling S.MPOE 735308;1403873155;chetty;pankkake, hey don't insult folks, feminist is a dirty word no matter what you think of rape 735309;1403873168;pankkake;I'm in a trolly mood 735310;1403874957;BingoBoingo;Things that WTF https://github.com/btcrobinhood/bips/blob/master/bip-1337.mediawiki 735311;1403874958;assbot;bips/bip-1337.mediawiki at master btcrobinhood/bips GitHub 735312;1403874986;nubbins`;re:anonymity, can't be abolished 735313;1403874994;nubbins`;you can restrict it in certain contexts, sure 735314;1403875341;BingoBoingo;!up Corey 735315;1403875348;BingoBoingo;!up Poffertje 735316;1403875533;nubbins`;;;view 20908 735317;1403875535;gribble;#20908 Fri Jun 27 09:21:50 2014 freewil SELL 973.5 BTC @ 565 USD (escrowed wire) 735318;1403875578;xmj;Gentlemen. 735319;1403875608;nubbins`;hi 735320;1403875660;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57100 @ 0.00081573 = 46.5782 BTC [-] {3} 735321;1403875691;punkman;nubbins`, you ever try printing on wool tshirts? 735322;1403875719;nubbins`;hmm, no 735323;1403875738;nubbins`;i guess if the weave was fine enough, it'd work 735324;1403875743;nubbins`;like merino wool 735325;1403875765;punkman;yeah shirts like these: http://frozenlabs.com/merino-tshirts-roundup 735326;1403875765;assbot;Frozenlabs: Merino tshirts roundup 735327;1403875835;nubbins`;i feel like maybe merino has some sort of natural coating on it, but i'd say between the few types of ink we have, something would stick 735328;1403875854;nubbins`;artificial fibers like polyester and nylon are the shitty ones 735329;1403876119;davout;ok, so peter todd is officially braindamaged 735330;1403876142;davout;https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/482517060019175424 735331;1403876143;assbot;Just-merged /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash Core feature enables easier miner TX-selection, private-submit policy experimentation: https://t.co/LzQRIXHtb9 735332;1403876164;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28xp8u/lets_clear_this_up_peter_todd_is_not_a_bitcoin/ 735333;1403876165;assbot;Let's clear this up: Peter Todd *is not* a Bitcoin core dev, just a contributor. : Bitcoin 735334;1403876175;pankkake;can someone ban reddit from the internet 735335;1403876184;cazalla;upboat 735336;1403876554;ThickAsThieves;!down reddit 735337;1403876617;nubbins`;USMS should liveblog the auction 735338;1403876884;ThickAsThieves;it's silent, no? 735339;1403877238;mod6;%p 735340;1403877240;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.77 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 49.25 GH/s 735341;1403877295;pankkake;%diff 735342;1403877296;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 391405.45 in 1648 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.48 735343;1403877372;BingoBoingo;%b 735344;1403877490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00081628 = 0.9844 BTC [+] 735345;1403877551;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24144 @ 0.0008172 = 19.7305 BTC [+] {3} 735346;1403877573;BingoBoingo;t 735347;1403877856;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00081497 = 33.8213 BTC [-] {2} 735348;1403877965;BingoBoingo;%t 735349;1403877967;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 2k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 735350;1403878227;BingoBoingo;%book 735351;1403878228;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160 735352;1403878398;ThickAsThieves;“Normally, we would expect the price to hit bottom around the time of the auction or soon after. Bitcoin isn’t that liquid so the sale will be hard to swallow. It is unlikely that anyone will bid above the market price – it would make more sense to just to buy in the market in bits and pieces and it’s not as if there is indication that there is bitcoin demand that is unmet 735353;1403878398;ThickAsThieves;because it is hard to buy lumpy amounts. There is simply little demand for lumpy amounts.” ~ Citi Propaganda Dept 735354;1403878429;ThickAsThieves;i guess theull be bidding too 735355;1403878448;pankkake;it is true that bitcoin isn't that liquid, but I don't see how the other pieces fall into place 735356;1403878456;BingoBoingo;;;buy 25000 735357;1403878456;gribble;(buy [--long] [at|@] []) -- Logs a buy order for units of , at a price of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, (1 more message) 735358;1403878492;pankkake;for the same reason I don't understand the "they will dump it on the open market". the open market probably can't handle it 735359;1403878497;pankkake;;;market buy 25000 735360;1403878497;gribble;Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 16329.832 bitcoins, for a total of 23682810.1935 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 90.7398 seconds 735361;1403878505;pankkake;;;market sell 25000 735362;1403878506;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to sell 25000 bitcoins right now would net 10519377.0202 USD and would take the last price down to 111.2300 USD, resulting in an average price of 420.7751 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 99.1681 seconds 735363;1403878516;pankkake;yeah. not gonna happen 735364;1403878519;BingoBoingo;And this is why they can't be bought piecemeal 735365;1403878531;BingoBoingo;Not in that quantity, not anymore 735366;1403878635;ThickAsThieves;i wish i could find the original text from Citi 735367;1403878653;ThickAsThieves;seems odd everyone is quoting Englander with no source 735368;1403878662;thestringpuller;;;ticker 735369;1403878663;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 588.04, Best ask: 588.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 589.93, 24 hour volume: 6760.55725360, 24 hour low: 564.23, 24 hour high: 589.97, 24 hour vwap: 578.979584755 735370;1403878672;thestringpuller;!mpif 735371;1403878673;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 735372;1403878730;ThickAsThieves;“We have no discretion,” Mr. Silbert said. “We are bidding based on where all the bids come in into our syndicate.” I guess 2ndmkt aint getting any coins 735373;1403878814;BingoBoingo;Or perhaps all of them 735374;1403878963;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/06/tiny-elephant-like-mammal-discovered-in-namib-desert/ 735375;1403878964;assbot;Tiny elephant-like mammal discovered in Namib Desert | Ars Technica 735376;1403878980;BingoBoingo;;;market buy 1000 735377;1403878981;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 593471.4254 USD and would take the last price up to 595.8300 USD, resulting in an average price of 593.4714 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0304 seconds 735378;1403878998;BingoBoingo;;;market buy 2000 735379;1403878998;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 2000 bitcoins right now would take 1193776.1987 USD and would take the last price up to 604.4400 USD, resulting in an average price of 596.8881 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 17.1216 seconds 735380;1403879009;BingoBoingo;;;market buy 10000 735381;1403879010;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 6421070.0506 USD and would take the last price up to 749.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 642.1070 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.3633 seconds 735382;1403879023;BingoBoingo;;;market buy 15000 735383;1403879023;gribble;Bitstamp | A market order to buy 15000 bitcoins right now would take 11054841.5105 USD and would take the last price up to 1200.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 736.9894 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 42.5405 seconds 735384;1403879060;ThickAsThieves;so yeah $650+ 735385;1403879067;pankkake;You can also change the market. however, the supposedly higher volume markets have much smaller books 735386;1403879084;ThickAsThieves;the volume is largely traders 735387;1403879099;ThickAsThieves;the larger shifts in price are "real" buyers & sellers 735388;1403879119;BingoBoingo;Right, and I'd imagine more orders get cancelled than actually fulfilled 735389;1403879132;ThickAsThieves;that's why your buy 1000 works fine, but starts to break afte rthat 735390;1403879142;ThickAsThieves;cuz the traders post walls in the OTE zones 735391;1403879320;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00081486 = 21.9605 BTC [-] {2} 735392;1403879411;pankkake;OTE? 735393;1403879433;ThickAsThieves;optimal trade entry (fibonacci) 735394;1403879601;ThickAsThieves;.618 thru .786 735395;1403879629;ThickAsThieves;still learning fib stuff though 735396;1403879635;ThickAsThieves;it's used all over the place 735397;1403879883;mike_c;TaT, you know this technical crap is snake oil, right? 735398;1403879900;mike_c;fibonacci your tea leaves 735399;1403879941;mike_c;;;8ball should i buy or sell? 735400;1403879941;gribble;Yes! 735401;1403879946;ThickAsThieves;well i'd say it's got at least some potency 735402;1403879963;ThickAsThieves;cant know much about where youre going when you dont know where youve been 735403;1403879984;mike_c;hehe. you going to report results? 735404;1403879988;ThickAsThieves;rape me 735405;1403879991;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00081777 = 4.4568 BTC [+] 735406;1403880001;ThickAsThieves;i'll report them if i do well, obv 735407;1403880007;ThickAsThieves;;) 735408;1403880025;ThickAsThieves;so far so good 735409;1403880025;mike_c;that would be a good blog series. include results on some normalized scale with each post. 735410;1403880060;ThickAsThieves;i keep a daily mark with minimal notes, i also publish a chart every few days at least 735411;1403880084;mike_c;publish where? 735412;1403880091;ThickAsThieves;watch me tiptoe through the tulips here: https://www.tradingview.com/u/BitcoinAssets/#published-charts 735413;1403880093;assbot;BitcoinAssets - TradingView 735414;1403880093;BingoBoingo;;;8ball 735415;1403880094;gribble;No clue. 735416;1403880107;ThickAsThieves;the daily mark is not published 735417;1403880110;ThickAsThieves;may never be 735418;1403880123;ThickAsThieves;but if there's useful info i'll find a way to convey it 735419;1403880174;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00081462 = 14.6632 BTC [-] {2} 735420;1403880177;ThickAsThieves;i dont necessarily trade exactly to my published charts, but you can at least see me learn over time 735421;1403880197;ThickAsThieves;i can say i will never post a chart to manipulate 735422;1403880279;mike_c;and the fact that you can put your fibonacci elliot waves on a random walk chart doesn't bother you? 735423;1403880308;ThickAsThieves;bother may be the wrong word, but i make no claim to being expert 735424;1403880326;mike_c;expert in what?? predicting randomness? 735425;1403880341;mike_c; 735426;1403880351;ThickAsThieves;humans are random? 735427;1403880460;mike_c;that's a big question obv. but i do believe short term price movements are random. 735428;1403880719;ThickAsThieves;It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it 735429;1403880719;ThickAsThieves;at all? 735430;1403880796;ThickAsThieves;the option to learn and practice this is only as expensive as i permit it to be 735431;1403880825;mike_c;if traders are all following the same script there is no profit to be made.. 735432;1403880846;ThickAsThieves;in that rigid example, of course 735433;1403880856;ThickAsThieves;but it's all things, not one 735434;1403881046;artifexd;mircea_popescu: No, she can't. Give me an example of how you would use it and what you would expect in return and I'll see what I can do. 735435;1403881076;mircea_popescu;artifexd http://bitbet.us/browse/ << fill in those fields hit search 735436;1403881076;assbot;Browse BitBet 735437;1403881176;artifexd;For example: "[]bb earthquakes" would return the bet closing soonest and a bet odds summary 735438;1403881200;punkman;mthreat could grab my bitbet database if he wanted to add it to the main search 735439;1403881217;artifexd;Or do you want the biggest? A link to a dpaste with links? I mean, what do you want her to show in here? 735440;1403881253;artifexd;Should she take sorting options? Return the top 5 bets and links? Only the top bet in the search? 735441;1403881254;TheNewDeal;eathquales, wtf? 735442;1403881300;artifexd;Just an example. :) 735443;1403881323;artifexd;"[]bb world cup" could return a whole lot of results. 735444;1403881451;pankkake;there actually was a bet about earthquakes 735445;1403881468;pankkake;actually, there are 3 open 735446;1403881605;TheNewDeal;ahh I gotcha 735447;1403881623;TheNewDeal;I thought you were saying earthquake was the command to return the closing soonest and odds summary... 735448;1403881677;TheNewDeal;;;nethash 735449;1403881678;gribble;1.72688358042 735450;1403881678;artifexd;Oh. Nah. 735451;1403881683;TheNewDeal;what is that? 735452;1403881713;TheNewDeal;thought nethash usualy returns something like 1.17E10 or whatever 735453;1403881774;mircea_popescu;o hey that patriarchy article yielded quite the scandal huh 735454;1403881864;mircea_popescu;punkman he could but this has params 735455;1403881963;punkman;yeah, easier to query the SQL than html search 735456;1403881982;punkman;but I can add search function to the library, was planning to anyway 735457;1403882019;mircea_popescu;ah yeah 735458;1403882028;mircea_popescu;wait which lib is this ? 735459;1403882044;punkman;the lib bitbet.py uses 735460;1403882049;mircea_popescu;o hey cool. 735461;1403882070;mircea_popescu;is artifexd's bot based onm bitbet.py ? 735462;1403882080;mircea_popescu;(sorry for the noob questions, i'm new here and i don't even code) 735463;1403882089;punkman;nah 735464;1403882112;mircea_popescu;!up _biO_ 735465;1403882134;punkman;he made the bot before I published bitbet.py 735466;1403882140;mircea_popescu;artifexd take a param. nth 735467;1403882161;mircea_popescu;defaults to 1 735468;1403882181;artifexd;My bot is written from scratch by me. 735469;1403882210;mircea_popescu;wd! 735470;1403882221;artifexd;Bitbet's search can return json so it isn't a problem. Just add /.json to the end. 735471;1403882246;mircea_popescu;i always wondered what "from scratch" really means. like, someone got an itch and so the software is written from scratch ? :D 735472;1403882257;mircea_popescu;a that's right. 735473;1403882304;mircea_popescu;The things he said, like "Josh is not gay, he's bi" or "Sonny fucked the girls from the production line" sound more like irrelevant bullshit from a crazy person than credible information. 735474;1403882321;mircea_popescu;wait, sonny doesn't fuck the production line girls ?! that lozer. 735475;1403882334;_biO_;seems like I have voice 735476;1403882337;_biO_;what do i do now, halp 735477;1403882364;mircea_popescu;lol. who're you ? 735478;1403882393;_biO_;I am _biO_, obviously 735479;1403882408;_biO_;soon to be voiceless, I guess. 735480;1403882436;mthreat;everyone gets their 30 minutes of fame 735481;1403882444;mircea_popescu;pankkake: you might say "GUIs", but I want them in screen, in ssh, and be keyboard driven only << kinda like all glyphs no ? 735482;1403882457;mircea_popescu;back in the day on the z80 you could define the 8x8 bitmap of a glyph 735483;1403882467;mircea_popescu;use special glyph sets as poor man's grapics. 735484;1403882481;mircea_popescu;resulting in these bitmaps that could only be colored in 8x8 chunks 735485;1403882482;punkman;;;view 20793 735486;1403882484;gribble;#20793 Wed Jun 18 21:37:08 2014 punkman SELL 1.0 app @ 2 BTC (Interactive commandline application, written in Python, using curses/ncurses.) 735487;1403882489;_biO_;i once build a window manager in basic 735488;1403882490;_biO_;:( 735489;1403882505;_biO_;with ASCII art etc 735490;1403882506;mircea_popescu;_biO_ so yu worked for windows 2.0 ? 735491;1403882512;pankkake;that looks like a cool solution 735492;1403882541;mircea_popescu;i made so many 8x8 tanks and rockets... 735493;1403882547;pankkake;punkman: so you're selling the application, but the library it uses is open, is that right? 735494;1403882557;punkman;no that's bespoke application 735495;1403882564;punkman;bitbet.py is free 735496;1403882595;mircea_popescu;he's doing the red hat thing 735497;1403882625;punkman;like if you hate namecheap, I could make a custom namecheap app to reduce the suffering 735498;1403882647;pankkake;ooh you're selling dev ok 735499;1403882727;mike_c;how good are you at DNS :) 735500;1403882751;mircea_popescu;lol 735501;1403882780;TheNewDeal;what's going on with gribble's nethash? 735502;1403882785;mircea_popescu;mike_c you should prolly pester dub. i'd love nothing more than to see him abjectly slaving away for a group of internet funbuxfans 735503;1403882815;punkman;mike_c, only incidental experience with DNS stuff 735504;1403882890;kakobrekla;http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/06/27/qa-with-mt-goxs-karpeles-what-went-wrong/ 735505;1403882892;assbot;Q&A With Mt. Goxs Karpels: What Went Wrong? - Japan Real Time - WSJ 735506;1403882961;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: "The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpels, who was the sole executive of the company. << lol 735507;1403882969;artifexd;http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/39551/where-does-the-saying-made-from-scratch-originate 735508;1403882969;assbot;meaning - Where does the saying "made from scratch" originate? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange 735509;1403882994;mthreat;physical attacks... 735510;1403883041;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00081489 = 15.4829 BTC [+] 735511;1403883084;mircea_popescu;o hey boxing 735512;1403883090;nubbins`;kako, i read that earlier 735513;1403883091;nubbins`;so cringe 735514;1403883128;punkman;that's a lot of quit: 735515;1403883200;mircea_popescu;wtf that reddit link BingoBoingo posted... who the fuck designs those headers. 735516;1403883220;ThickAsThieves;probly theymos 735517;1403883240;mircea_popescu;cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/ << wait im in the "community" nao ? 735518;1403883241;assbot;Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin 735519;1403883245;mircea_popescu;i thought they were over there. 735520;1403883269;ThickAsThieves;you cant escape the community 735521;1403883468;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1955002 = 0.9775 BTC [-] 735522;1403883484;artifexd;Just a reminder: []bot only reports bets over 1BTC in here. If you want to see them all, join ##bitbet-rt. 735523;1403883529;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1942 = 0.7768 BTC [-] 735524;1403883582;TheNewDeal;there's no one in ##bitbet-rt 735525;1403883607;TheNewDeal;nvm 735526;1403883609;artifexd;Uh... 735527;1403883616;TheNewDeal;client was grabbing the period 735528;1403883631;artifexd;Oh 735529;1403883713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00081777 = 22.6931 BTC [+] 735530;1403883824;ThickAsThieves;http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-27/trade-of-the-day-buy-a-bitcoin so horrible 735531;1403883824;assbot;Trade of the Day: Buy a Bitcoin - Bloomberg View 735532;1403884142;TheNewDeal;agreed, that was horrid 735533;1403884270;FabianB;$traded 735534;1403884270;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY S.MPOE S.WOL X.EUR 735535;1403884384;ThickAsThieves;S.WOL is currently priceless 735536;1403884393;ThickAsThieves;such investment 735537;1403884443;TheNewDeal;Science ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUG-GiwJ80 735538;1403884444;assbot;SanWe sperm collector - YouTube 735539;1403884445;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00081777 = 17.1323 BTC [+] 735540;1403884671;chetty;http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/06/27/report-mexican-military-chopper-crosses-into-us-shoots-at-border-agents/ 735541;1403884671;assbot;Report: Mexican Military Chopper Crosses Into US, Shoots At Border Agents « CBS Las Vegas 735542;1403884672;mircea_popescu;$depth s.wol 735543;1403884672;empyex;mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Bids: 51900 @ 0.00003999 30000 @ 0.00003513 500000 @ 0.00003500 735544;1403884673;empyex;mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Asks: 735545;1403884678;mircea_popescu;nuts, nobody selling ? 735546;1403884688;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1941 = 0.7764 BTC [+] 735547;1403884692;mircea_popescu;much investors. 735548;1403884749;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.194 = 0.776 BTC [-] {2} 735549;1403884810;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19310353 = 1.1586 BTC [-] {2} 735550;1403884811;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.80475851 BTC to 9`663 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 735551;1403884811;pankkake;bagholders 735552;1403884903;rithm;Rainbow Thor, wtf is that 735553;1403884950;mircea_popescu;whoa i just had an epiphany. someone linked the tlp blog just as i was reading davout's comment on rettardit and it struck me. 735554;1403884959;mircea_popescu;listen to this : "There are a few popular people that most of the community agree with, like Andreas Antonopoulos, but he is just a presenter, a tech-evangelist." 735555;1403884981;mircea_popescu;this, read through tlp's eyes, says "we only accept those who have no power, merely the trappings of power" 735556;1403884993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.1931003 = 2.5103 BTC [-] 735557;1403885010;mircea_popescu;that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. 735558;1403885036;mircea_popescu;the perfect ideology, especially from the pov of the shepherd, for the use of domestic sheep. 735559;1403885047;nubbins`;all hail the queen 735560;1403885052;rithm;badness and goodness are moral constructs 735561;1403885053;mircea_popescu;no fucking wonder faux feminism is all the rage. 735562;1403885058;mircea_popescu;nubbins` heya. 735563;1403885063;nubbins`;hi 735564;1403885085;chetty;well its the way things are, we mostly never see the puppet masters, just the puppets 735565;1403885110;mircea_popescu;i wonder if lovecraft;'s intuition is correct, if the mere sight of chtulhu would drive one mad. 735566;1403885287;nubbins`;the whole thing about angles that didn't make sense always made me feel funny 735567;1403885298;mircea_popescu;"If he is a left winger he will get a pass from the feminist community, maybe a slap on the wrist. If not then the mighty thunder of Rainbow Thor and his unicorn shaped hammer will hit him bad. Let's wait and see..." 735568;1403885302;mircea_popescu;pity it can't be a bitbet. 735569;1403885321;mircea_popescu;i don't think the feminist was born with the guts to engage me. 735570;1403885416;pankkake;source? 735571;1403885462;mircea_popescu;btctalk thread the reddt thing lnks to 735572;1403885621;kakobrekla;!up _biO_ 735573;1403885629;chetty;we should ban the word community, I am offended 735574;1403885676;xmj;chetty: please talk more about your feelings 735575;1403885716;ThickAsThieves;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhbT73ZG2Q&feature=kp 735576;1403885716;assbot;Depeche Mode - I Feel You (HQ) - YouTube 735577;1403885722;chetty;well my butt is numb from sitting too long, does that count? 735578;1403885755;HeySteve;<+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality 735579;1403885761;mircea_popescu;indeed. 735580;1403885824;xmj;harrumpf 735581;1403885828;xmj;once i agree with mircea_popescu 735582;1403885841;HeySteve;I believe he was speaking about Christianity, but it applies equally well to the religion of equalism 735583;1403885873;mircea_popescu;the thing is, christianity is old. equalitarianism is young. 735584;1403885889;kakobrekla;xmj watch it, soon you wont be able to stop. 735585;1403885894;nubbins`;;;google egalitarianism 735586;1403885895;gribble;Egalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Egalitarianism - Merriam-Webster Online: ; Egalitarian | Define Egalitarian at Dictionary.com: 735587;1403885896;nubbins`;you were both so close 735588;1403885897;asciilifeform;as i recall, he applied it as a general principle - christianity being an example of the clusterfuck that happens when 'the slaves win.' 735589;1403885897;mircea_popescu;as such, for a short time 19th-20th century christianity was forced out of shape for the needs of the equalitarian ideology of the time 735590;1403885912;xmj;kakobrekla: I doubt that. 735591;1403885915;mircea_popescu;now that religion is no longer useful pushing the cart of state, it's slowly getting back into its original shape 735592;1403885916;HeySteve;mircea_popescu sure, but I believe the roots of equalism are in Christian universalism 735593;1403885924;mircea_popescu;except thatr's unchristian. 735594;1403885932;HeySteve;everyone being equal before God, and such notions 735595;1403885937;mircea_popescu;it's episcopalian or w/e bullshit neoprotestant sect 735596;1403885945;mircea_popescu;that's christian in the sense the us is european 735597;1403885963;HeySteve;iow not any more :P 735598;1403885963;BingoBoingo; <+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality << You mispelled Hegel 735599;1403885976;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo and also kant. 735600;1403885988;asciilifeform;(christianity has a rather wide operating envelope - e.g. conquistador was permitted to behead untermenschen so long as they're baptized first, etc) 735601;1403885989;mircea_popescu;he misspelled anyone with a clue, what's he to do. 735602;1403885996;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform see ? 735603;1403886004;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sure, I'm wondering how far the chan could walk this back... 735604;1403886021;mircea_popescu;kyon. 735605;1403886036;BingoBoingo;Sucks that by jumping ahead to Kant we skipped Fichte 735606;1403886042;mircea_popescu;actually is that even meaningful 735607;1403886046;mircea_popescu;;;google kyon 735608;1403886047;gribble;Kyon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; KYON Veterinary Surgical Products | Cruciate Repair, Total Hip ...: ; Kyon - Haruhi Wiki: 735609;1403886050;mircea_popescu;meh. 735610;1403886064;mircea_popescu;;;google diogene of sinope 735611;1403886065;gribble;Diogenes of Sinope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Diogenes of Sinope [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]: ; Diogenes of Sinope - Wikiquote: 735612;1403886121;BingoBoingo;This prolly goes back to the Serpent's argument to Eve about the Apple. 735613;1403886123;HeySteve;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNZNwxEzE4 :D 735614;1403886123;assbot;Monty Python-Philosopher's Beer Drinking Song - YouTube 735615;1403886382;BingoBoingo;%book 735616;1403886383;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160 735617;1403886467;pankkake;"All backers still waiting on their rings to ship will have received an email from us yesterday." no I haven't!!! 735618;1403886487;pankkake;(nfc ring kickstarter) 735619;1403886653;nubbins`;no, you WILL have 735620;1403886657;nubbins`;;D 735621;1403886697;kakobrekla;>When Plato gave Socrates' definition of man as "featherless bipeds" and was much praised for the definition, Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it into Plato's Academy, saying, "Behold! I've brought you a man." After this incident, "with broad flat nails" was added to Plato's definition. 735622;1403886704;kakobrekla;dat trollage. 735623;1403887126;ThickAsThieves;<+pankkake> (nfc ring kickstarter) /// i got mine last week 735624;1403887145;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 735625;1403887148;gribble;Current Blocks: 308135 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 312 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 22 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16657399281.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.73111 735626;1403887256;ThickAsThieves;it arrives not assembled or something, so i havent bothered to sort it out yet 735627;1403887299;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/295las/35_of_my_btc_gone_pc_not_compromised/ 735628;1403887299;assbot;35 of my BTC gone. PC not compromised. : Bitcoin 735629;1403887311;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 643 @ 0.00081534 = 0.5243 BTC [-] 735630;1403887372;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72395 @ 0.00081355 = 58.897 BTC [-] {4} 735631;1403887395;ThickAsThieves;"This is exactly why we need Mycelium Entropy." 735632;1403887431;nubbins`;btc robin hood to the rescue 735633;1403887441;nubbins`;!up darlidada 735634;1403887616;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04299999 = 0.516 BTC [-] 735635;1403888076;BingoBoingo;%t 735636;1403888077;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 2k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 735637;1403888080;BingoBoingo;%d 735638;1403888082;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 388489.39 in 1635 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.05 735639;1403888169;kakobrekla;this is what Stanford gets you : http://shrani.si/f/33/CQ/16VLLSAv/stanford.png 735640;1403888257;ThickAsThieves;Awesome 735641;1403888274;mircea_popescu; dat trollage. << yup 735642;1403888314;ThickAsThieves;you shouldve asked them how much to print a bitcoin FUD article 735643;1403888330;kakobrekla;feel free, the apps are still open 735644;1403888449;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla wtf first time lol 735645;1403888454;mircea_popescu;i got the same in 2012. 735646;1403888465;nubbins`;haha 735647;1403888477;mircea_popescu;back when sara wood was still a guy 735648;1403888497;nubbins`;if you can't buy an ad it'll be hard for us to not call you a piece of shit in our rag 735649;1403888517;mircea_popescu;lol 735650;1403888524;nubbins`;"Sincerely, X, Major I completed two fuckin years ago" 735651;1403888562;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> back when sara wood was still a guy /// lolz 735652;1403888579;mircea_popescu;wait that's a different wood 735653;1403888582;nubbins`;imagine being so creatively bankrupt and without skill that you have to put your university, major, and graduating year in your email sig 735654;1403888583;kakobrekla;so its first time _as a female_ 735655;1403888611;kakobrekla;thats kate wood rite 735656;1403888622;nubbins`;^ that sounds familiar 735657;1403888625;mircea_popescu;craig/cringe wood 735658;1403888640;kakobrekla;nubbins` dont tell me you fucked him?! 735659;1403888647;mircea_popescu;lol 735660;1403888658;nubbins`;hey, it's all anus in the dark 735661;1403888667;kakobrekla;hehe 735662;1403888669;mircea_popescu;no its not 735663;1403888673;mircea_popescu;man anus feels different 735664;1403888675;mircea_popescu;oshit. 735665;1403888676;nubbins`;:0 735666;1403888681;kakobrekla;lel 735667;1403888681;assbot;Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FYC37H.txt ) 735668;1403888681;nubbins`;!b 6 735669;1403888709;kakobrekla;you need to put some padding on b 735670;1403888711;ThickAsThieves;manus 735671;1403888716;assbot;Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/27BWB49.txt ) 735672;1403888716;kakobrekla;!b 10 735673;1403888763;ThickAsThieves;someone should discover an exotic fruit and name it mananus 735674;1403888788;mircea_popescu;totally. 735675;1403888799;mircea_popescu;maybe we should run a campaign to rename ananas 735676;1403888817;ThickAsThieves;banalanus 735677;1403888830;mircea_popescu;this could be a decent mp sketch. 735678;1403888842;mircea_popescu;the florist shop where they only sell anus-renamed fruit 735679;1403888849;mircea_popescu;right across the street from the famous cheese shop 735680;1403888850;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-2-bitcoin-difficulty-hash-target/ 735681;1403888958;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04049409 = 1.2148 BTC [-] {7} 735682;1403889005;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: misread sentence as 'maybe we should run a campaign to rename antennas. ThickAsThieves: balunus' 735683;1403889013;mircea_popescu;lol 735684;1403889019;asciilifeform;;;ud balun 735685;1403889020;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Balun | trending. strikeout · wcw · bae · sapiosexual · mc 10:35 · swag · bougie · catfish · poopsterbate · surfboard. categories. gaming · sports · food · sex · tv · film ... 735686;1403889024;asciilifeform;fail 735687;1403889035;nubbins`;;;ud sapiosexual 735688;1403889036;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sapiosexual | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom  ... 735689;1403889043;mircea_popescu;you're too cuntercultural for urban dictionrary 735690;1403889159;asciilifeform;mycelium machine << it still isn't clear to me - are they actually sampling an sram, or just using atmel's turd which purports to do so internally 735691;1403889182;asciilifeform;(i investigated the sram method personally, was not satisfied with the results) 735692;1403889234;mircea_popescu;"Ratchet is If Ghetto and Hot Shitty Mess had a baby, and that baby had no father, and became a stripper, then made a sex tape with an athlete, then became a reality star!" 735693;1403889253;mircea_popescu;dude look at that, they just described pink 735694;1403889280;pankkake;;;ud TRP 735695;1403889281;gribble;http://sv.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TRP | Tentacle Rape Porn. A form of Japanese erotica in which tentacled creatures ( octopuses, squids, etc.) have sex with people. "Dude, I saw some awesome TRP  ... 735696;1403889390;pankkake;"You posted another of his articles on a submission of mine, and I ignored it because I thought the article was terrible, un-self-aware TRP crap, but it wasn't worth replying to" I'm not sure this is it 735697;1403889438;pankkake;oh, "TRP reddit" gives me The Red Pill 735698;1403889699;mircea_popescu;whats trp ? 735699;1403889714;mircea_popescu;oic 735700;1403889812;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36850 @ 0.00081455 = 30.0162 BTC [+] 735701;1403890093;benkay;wannabe alphas teaching wannabe alphas to be wannabe alphas 735702;1403890162;mircea_popescu;ipo yet ? 735703;1403890178;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00081777 = 6.1333 BTC [+] 735704;1403890320;benkay;ipo's are pososphere feminist brainwashing man 735705;1403890443;mircea_popescu;what's poso- ? 735706;1403890452;mircea_popescu;dude i learn more new words here than in #new-words 735707;1403890512;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: chetty think of it this way, do you believe that mp thinks women should literally be raped? I assume you'd answer No. In that case, what is he really trying to say? Or, at worst, what point can be extracted from the trolling. This is the nature of most mp rants and provocation. Each a test of your filters. << y u trolling me1 735708;1403890539;mircea_popescu;pankkake: (I haven't read the article yet, I'm 3 behind) << peed on the test yet ? 735709;1403890544;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1931003 = 0.7724 BTC [-] 735710;1403890603;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ? 735711;1403890605;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.03757314 = 2.5174 BTC [-] {15} 735712;1403890711;mircea_popescu;pankkake "more than four times as much nodes" > as many. much works as a comparative for uncuntable items only. as much money, as much police. if the substance is discrete, more. more nodes, more tits. 735713;1403890725;mircea_popescu;bah. i mean, many nodes, many tits. 735714;1403890733;pankkake;peed on what? 735715;1403890749;mircea_popescu;;;google pregnancy test 735716;1403890750;gribble;When to Take Pregnancy Tests - WebMD: Home Tests, False ...: ; Early Results Pregnancy Test | FIRST RESPONSE™: ; Pregnancy test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 735717;1403890765;pankkake;good catch, I know the difference, but didn't reread myself 735718;1403890779;pankkake;oh, being behind, I get it 735719;1403890800;mircea_popescu;SSH into it, and run apt-get install bitcoind. Forget about it. << they need to run it too no ? 735720;1403891055;pankkake;no, debian usually runs the daemon by default, but not all packages 735721;1403891060;pankkake;I haven't checked 735722;1403891094;pankkake;sometimes you need to edit /etc/conf.d/ 735723;1403891102;pankkake;or is it /etc/defaults 735724;1403891146;mircea_popescu;right 735725;1403891159;mircea_popescu;just saying, about 1/3 or more of ppl doing what you say don't do anything at all 735726;1403891190;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo: It hasn't been a good month for him, next should be worse << oddly, too. i kinda like the guy, but he's been acting erratically of late. 735727;1403891227;BingoBoingo;He's only lately started going off the deep end. I hope he didn't catch anything from tortilla 735728;1403891246;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ? /// I have an different appreciation for the human condition? A skepticism for anything leaning too far in any direction? I didnt end up in art, music, design and marketing and such by accident, my brain tries to tune to empathy for some reason. I don't always behave in kind, but it's probably 735729;1403891246;ThickAsThieves;my initial state of response. Also probably why I try to question things and myself in new ways. Also maybe why I'm vegan, etc. Or something else, fukt if i know. 735730;1403891315;mircea_popescu;that's your response as to why you try not to touch people ?! 735731;1403891330;ThickAsThieves;touch? 735732;1403891343;mircea_popescu;well yes. as in "a touching remark" 735733;1403891360;ThickAsThieves;no, i meant i try not to assualt the individual as a means of communication 735734;1403891377;ThickAsThieves;verbally or otherwise 735735;1403891380;chetty;different people respond to different levels of touch 735736;1403891381;mircea_popescu;well... can't have one w/o the other can you. 735737;1403891390;mircea_popescu;but fundamentally, it'll have to be touch. 735738;1403891400;ThickAsThieves;maybe it's a point of finesse or just of preference 735739;1403891417;ThickAsThieves;i dont mine saying ideas that some might find offensive 735740;1403891427;ThickAsThieves;but i also wouldnt use rape as a metaphor 735741;1403891428;mircea_popescu;maybe you're just used to talking to people who speak the same language. 735742;1403891438;ThickAsThieves;mind* 735743;1403891446;chetty;the person that responds to a light touch may be further put off by brute force and the reverse 735744;1403891461;mircea_popescu;chetty how would you know apriori what's what ? 735745;1403891482;mircea_popescu;i mean, if you're racist, ie, strictly intend to live within your subgroup, then yea, just look up the official subgroup table. 735746;1403891489;ThickAsThieves;note, i never said MP should not write this way 735747;1403891494;mircea_popescu;but if you're not, you're stuck, there's no good translation. 735748;1403891496;ThickAsThieves;simply that i wouldnt 735749;1403891503;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i know, i know. 735750;1403891513;ThickAsThieves;i enjoy the challenge of reading your work 735751;1403891520;ThickAsThieves;whether i agree or not 735752;1403891526;chetty;And I was just sayin both have their place 735753;1403891541;mircea_popescu;so then we have no substantial disagreement on the table at all ? 735754;1403891560;ThickAsThieves;not really, i was mostly trying to interpret your being to chetty 735755;1403891572;ThickAsThieves;hold him, as it were 735756;1403891574;ThickAsThieves;:) 735757;1403891577;mircea_popescu;lol 735758;1403891588;chetty;her* 735759;1403891593;ThickAsThieves;aha! 735760;1403891596;ThickAsThieves;i wasnt sure 735761;1403891606;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << sadly, the website to do that wouldcost the usg more than the auction's worth 735762;1403891762;mircea_popescu;mike_c: TaT, you know this technical crap is snake oil, right? << but he likes it. 735763;1403891789;mircea_popescu;consider this : it's a scientific fact that you having sex does exactly 0 for your team. but what if you had sex during all the games, on the conviction that a good fuck will make your team win ? 735764;1403891796;mircea_popescu;wouldn't the win be pretty enjoyable then ? 735765;1403891817;mircea_popescu;in an economy of subjective utility, snake oil is economically relevant. 735766;1403891886;rithm;when does the auction happen again 735767;1403891889;rithm;next month? 735768;1403891904;mike_c;the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction. 735769;1403891917;mike_c;*effect 735770;1403891922;mike_c;whichever 735771;1403891932;benkay;go long, dca, forget trading. 735772;1403891946;mike_c;rithm: right now. 735773;1403891951;benkay;unless you're on someone else's book and getting paid for it. 735774;1403891953;rithm;oh 735775;1403891959;rithm;link? 735776;1403891971;rithm;anything to watch? 735777;1403891982;mike_c;nothing to watch. it's private. 735778;1403891989;rithm;snooze 735779;1403892000;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 735780;1403892001;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 588.41, Best ask: 589.51, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 588.41, 24 hour volume: 6799.05133464, 24 hour low: 566.25, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 581.060682823 735781;1403892008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 110.72909372 BTC to 77`492 shares, 142891 satoshi per share 735782;1403892064;mircea_popescu; the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction. << precisely. producing overall a net gain. 735783;1403892073;benkay;;;later tell princesnell mircea_popescu wants to know more about poso* 735784;1403892073;gribble;The operation succeeded. 735785;1403892087;benkay;ask the anthropologist. 735786;1403892115;mike_c;well, that wasn't entirely accurate. i do know how the losses would affect my conviction. it would change it. 735787;1403892135;mircea_popescu;yours. 735788;1403892145;mircea_popescu;but you're not a subjective utilitatirst. maybe 735789;1403892154;mircea_popescu;maybe you don't even respond to placebo worth a crao 735790;1403892180;mike_c;i'll start taking them and report back. 735791;1403892189;mircea_popescu;lol 735792;1403892284;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves: It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it << this is like re 735793;1403892285;mircea_popescu;ading calvin. 735794;1403892374;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12736 @ 0.00081685 = 10.4034 BTC [-] 735795;1403892414;mircea_popescu;"One of the central themes of the postmodern critique of our values is that aesthetics must trump truth as long as aesthetics remains undefined. Thats the semiotic conundrum, why psychiatry is politics: the truth is demanded only when it supports a preset ideology." 735796;1403892416;mircea_popescu;heh 735797;1403892557;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11114 @ 0.00081685 = 9.0785 BTC [-] 735798;1403892618;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 7.63386216 BTC to 29`438 shares, 25932 satoshi per share 735799;1403892764;pankkake;http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ <= why didn't this make any noise? 735800;1403892766;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 735801;1403892806;pankkake;could be posted on girlsgonebitcoin too 735802;1403892823;mircea_popescu;pls do. 735803;1403892832;mircea_popescu;i was asking yest for it. i thought moiety posted it ? 735804;1403892987;mircea_popescu;mircea_popescu: 735805;1403892988;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja. 735806;1403892989;assbot;I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 735807;1403893028;pankkake;probably shouldn't do it with my current troll account, but i'll uptits it 735808;1403893068;pankkake;btw, YOU have a reddit account 735809;1403893221;ThickAsThieves;John Calvin? 735810;1403893255;chetty;http://www.newsforage.com/2014/06/red-cross-how-we-spent-sandy-money-is.html 735811;1403893255;assbot;Red Cross: How We Spent Sandy Money Is a ‘Trade Secret’ - The charity is fighting a public records request for information on how it raised and spent money after the superstorm ~ News Forage 735812;1403893631;mircea_popescu;i do ? 735813;1403893649;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves yea 735814;1403893790;ThickAsThieves;all i know is from skimming the wiki 735815;1403893813;mircea_popescu;they had this p[redetermination doctrine. 735816;1403893815;ThickAsThieves;beieved destiny is predetermined, god knows all, incl future 735817;1403893865;mircea_popescu;ya 735818;1403893884;ThickAsThieves;so i'm aspiring to be godlike, big deal 735819;1403893892;ThickAsThieves;who isnt 735820;1403893974;Mats_cd03;i aspire to godhood. 735821;1403893991;mircea_popescu;not exactly. more like you aspire to be godlike on the theory that the world's a sausage press. 735822;1403894022;mircea_popescu;that's kinda what the reformation was, the rebellion of sausage makers against all this bs latin learning. 735823;1403894027;mircea_popescu;citizen theory. 735824;1403894143;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02688262 = 0.5377 BTC [+] 735825;1403894153;mircea_popescu;It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself. 735826;1403894160;mircea_popescu;anyone wish to explain the joke to me ? 735827;1403894204;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1036 @ 0.00081712 = 0.8465 BTC [+] 735828;1403894227;ThickAsThieves;i think it's Princess Armadala 735829;1403894231;ThickAsThieves;both from Star Wars 735830;1403894239;ThickAsThieves;and Yars is an old atari game 735831;1403894277;ThickAsThieves;i think it says, for a nerd, this is totally awesome 735832;1403894299;ThickAsThieves;that, or totally impossible 735833;1403894300;ThickAsThieves;not sure 735834;1403894364;mircea_popescu;not yet a joke tho 735835;1403894377;mircea_popescu;i guess maybe he means "chuckle worthy reference" = joke 735836;1403894393;ThickAsThieves;absurd 735837;1403894394;BingoBoingo;Well, symptom of being American... 735838;1403894396;ThickAsThieves;maybe 735839;1403894509;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12948 @ 0.00081455 = 10.5468 BTC [-] 735840;1403894624;ThickAsThieves;“BTCjam has been a great resource, connecting me with investors globally, and allowing me to expand my business in ways I hadn't even thought were possible. Thanks!” 735841;1403894654;chetty; It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself.//bad nerd attempt to make an inside joke 735842;1403894692;benkay;in america, the joke has been reduced to the reference 735843;1403894701;benkay;"how about them TSA lines?!?!?!?!" har har har 735844;1403894711;benkay;and audiences reduced to ovations over laughter 735845;1403894714;benkay;it's a travesty 735846;1403894737;ThickAsThieves;BTCJam has loaned out more than 23,000 BTC to people like you. Simple and Fast online application process. 735847;1403894738;ThickAsThieves;Great low rates - independent of your FICO score! 735848;1403894758;ThickAsThieves;Facebook ads from BTCJam 735849;1403894780;Namworld;... 735850;1403894937;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00081616 = 37.2169 BTC [+] {2} 735851;1403894961;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/299ee9/opportunity_to_get_01btc_for_your_tits_on_irc/ http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/299gau/opportunity_to_get_01btc_for_your_tits_on_irc/ upboobage request 735852;1403894961;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 735853;1403894961;assbot;reddit.com: over 18? 735854;1403895119;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19963 @ 0.00081874 = 16.3445 BTC [+] {2} 735855;1403895270;pankkake;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2997du/warning_the_bitcoin_journal_is_a_fraud/ MP was right, Sara is likely not a girl 735856;1403895271;assbot;WARNING: The Bitcoin Journal is a fraud : Bitcoin 735857;1403895369;BingoBoingo;kakobrekla always spots the scammers 735858;1403895424;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00081455 = 6.7168 BTC [-] 735859;1403895426;kakobrekla;an hour ago 735860;1403895436;kakobrekla;ba beats reddit 735861;1403895485;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03671218 = 0.5507 BTC [-] {6} 735862;1403896576;mircea_popescu;!up Menno 735863;1403896578;mircea_popescu;!up diatonic 735864;1403896608;mircea_popescu; Facebook ads from BTCJam << i wonder if they fiat roi, those fb ads :D 735865;1403896670;mircea_popescu;pankkake danke 735866;1403896763;mircea_popescu;http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg << sarah/kate/simon/craig woods further stock footage 735867;1403896901;pankkake;you posted that one already 735868;1403896908;benkay;i've seen that like three times this week 735869;1403896916;pankkake;more dildopants please 735870;1403896924;benkay;at least different ones 735871;1403896949;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00081902 = 9.0092 BTC [+] 735872;1403897080;mircea_popescu;now you get to knowwhat marriage's like. 735873;1403897376;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03412 = 0.58 BTC [-] 735874;1403897543;benkay;what, no new panties? 735875;1403897551;Mats_cd03;10btc buttcoin 735876;1403897562;Mats_cd03;such privilege 735877;1403897622;Mats_cd03;idk many people that would say no esp if they remained anon 735878;1403898047;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0340294 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {3} 735879;1403898230;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.03110569 = 1.3375 BTC [-] {8} 735880;1403898292;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00081622 = 8.203 BTC [-] 735881;1403899267;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03699758 = 1.6649 BTC [+] {2} 735882;1403900347;BingoBoingo;%ob 735883;1403900348;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160 735884;1403900357;BingoBoingo;%diff 735885;1403900358;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 385242.46 in 1620 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.69 735886;1403900366;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 735887;1403900368;gribble;Current Blocks: 308160 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 287 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16651563644.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.68776 735888;1403900447;thestringpuller;Sunday 5am EDT 735889;1403900613;thestringpuller;;;ticker 735890;1403900614;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.01, Best ask: 587.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.43000, Last trade: 587.44, 24 hour volume: 6960.37322975, 24 hour low: 568.04, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 582.330245983 735891;1403900652;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market USMS auction 735892;1403900653;gribble;(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) 735893;1403900683;BingoBoingo;;;more 735894;1403900683;gribble;the code is a valid currency on your target market. Default currency is USD. 735895;1403901587;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22874 @ 0.00081647 = 18.6759 BTC [+] {2} 735896;1403901647;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03101 = 0.7753 BTC [-] 735897;1403902462;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 735898;1403902464;gribble;Time since last block: 1 minute and 35 seconds 735899;1403902467;BingoBoingo;%tslb 735900;1403902470;atcbot;19 minutes and 26 seconds 735901;1403902866;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 61 @ 0.03002785 = 1.8317 BTC [-] {5} 735902;1403902988;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.02899861 = 1.1309 BTC [-] {5} 735903;1403903598;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00081821 = 10.4322 BTC [+] 735904;1403904025;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.02505931 = 0.8771 BTC [-] {5} 735905;1403904602;Namworld;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668378.0 735906;1403904602;assbot;Flawed Provably Fair Systems 735907;1403904618;Namworld;And it's live. 735908;1403904913;Mats_cd03;cape cod is filled to the brim with peasants this time of year 735909;1403904940;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.028 = 1.372 BTC [-] {4} 735910;1403905026;nubbins`;fun 735911;1403905058;nubbins`;hey, do you guys get seasonal homeless where you live? 735912;1403905131;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves:"The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. << lulz! 735913;1403905138;nubbins`;:D 735914;1403905160;bitcoinpete;punkman: 120 petahashes now << and then some 735915;1403905161;nubbins`;the weakest point of our basketball team was athletic ability 735916;1403905162;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 735917;1403905163;gribble;1.72688358042 735918;1403905184;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.02698 = 1.349 BTC [+] {2} 735919;1403905191;Mats_cd03;seasonal homeless exist everywhere its warm during the summer 735920;1403905201;jurov;weakest point of the porn performance was the dick 735921;1403905249;jurov;nubbins`: yes i know two dudes that live whole summer in tent 735922;1403905253;bitcoinpete;wtf gribble... 735923;1403905298;jurov;heh gribble overflowed? 735924;1403905310;Mats_cd03;i wonder why that is. needs to be bigint? 735925;1403905328;kakobrekla;;;bc,stats 735926;1403905330;gribble;Current Blocks: 308176 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 271 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 13 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16703666692.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.07478 735927;1403905341;bitcoinpete;jurov: must be. pretty sure there more than 1.72 Ghps 735928;1403905358;jurov;https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668378 namworld finally published his rant 735929;1403905358;assbot;Flawed Provably Fair Systems 735930;1403905363;kakobrekla;nethash molests the sci notation ? 735931;1403905368;bitcoinpete;closer to 121,860,978 GH/s 735932;1403905388;bitcoinpete;kakobrekla: it seemed to be working properly yesterday 735933;1403905397;bitcoinpete;now it's guessing next diff or something 735934;1403905399;fluffypony;nubbins`: apparently t-shirts arrived today 735935;1403905406;fluffypony;I asked the wife to take pics and send to me 735936;1403905410;bitcoinpete;provably fair t-shirts! 735937;1403905413;nubbins`;great! good news 735938;1403905416;kakobrekla;nanotube you might want to get that looked at. 735939;1403905464;nubbins`;check the timestamp on the postage, curious to know how long it took 735940;1403905472;fluffypony;nubbins`: will do 735941;1403905506;fluffypony;ugh, OgNasty's posts in the "Why Do You Invest?" thread make me want to smack him upside the head 735942;1403905520;fluffypony;"What if BTC drops from $560 down to $0.01 while your BTC investment doubles? Would you be happy your $560 investment is now worth $0.02, or would you be angry that you lost all the real value of your investment?" 735943;1403905544;fluffypony;I'd be fucking ecstatic if I double'd my BTC regardless of what some shitty fiat market thinks a BTC is worth in 'Murka 735944;1403905548;kakobrekla;but at 0.01$'s difficulty, he will be mining 22mio btc a day. 735945;1403905584;fluffypony;heh 735946;1403905601;fluffypony;Team Nasty Fans (or whatever they're called) would love that 735947;1403905602;kakobrekla;dun worry my comment contains at least two fails 735948;1403905664;bitcoinpete;french money sign.. 735949;1403905667;fluffypony;you're just using gribble arithmetic 735950;1403905686;bitcoinpete;gribmath 735951;1403905690;fluffypony;LOL 735952;1403905694;fluffypony;phpGribMath 735953;1403905703;kakobrekla;but i think i know why nasty fans invest. so ognasty can pay rent without actually doing anything. 735954;1403905707;fluffypony;"As used by Karpeles!" 735955;1403905708;bitcoinpete;phpGribMath.random 735956;1403905726;jurov;;;calc 1.346258011452534E10 735957;1403905726;gribble;Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 735958;1403905728;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: is that function provably fair? 735959;1403905731;bitcoinpete;as used by brainwallet.org 735960;1403905734;jurov;;;calc 1.346258011452534E10*1.0 735961;1403905735;gribble;Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) 735962;1403905754;jurov;well.. 735963;1403905760;kakobrekla;;;rand 735964;1403905760;gribble;Error: "rand" is not a valid command. 735965;1403905765;kakobrekla;;;calc rand 735966;1403905765;gribble;Error: 'rand' is not a defined function. 735967;1403905766;bitcoinpete;;;calc 1.346258011452534**10 735968;1403905767;gribble;19.5561341426 735969;1403905775;kakobrekla;meh , ill seed the wallet with that anyway. 735970;1403905806;bitcoinpete;dat entropy 735971;1403905827;bitcoinpete;we should do a brainwallet hacktest of "rand" 735972;1403905872;bitcoinpete;http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/introducing-ltbcoin-our-new-crypto-rewards-program-for-ltb-creators-and-community 735973;1403905874;assbot;Introducing LTBCOIN, our new crypto-rewards program for LTB Creators and Community | Lets Talk Bitcoin 735974;1403905898;bitcoinpete;"Why is LTBCOIN Valuable? Effective July 1st, 2014 LetsTalkBitcoin.com, the Let’s Talk Bitcoin! show, and the LTB network will only sell sponsorship space (on the web properties) or airtime (on the show) for LTBCOIN, to the highest bidder, in LTBCOIN, at our regular auction events." 735975;1403905922;fluffypony;wait what 735976;1403905927;fluffypony;they're issuing an altcoin? 735977;1403905936;jurov;Crypto.SHA256(window.screen.height, window.screen.width, window.screen.colorDepth, window.screen.availHeight, window.screen.availWidth, window.screen.pixelDepth, date, timeZoneOffset, navigator.userAgent, all browser plugins, all mime types of the browser, cookies, language, browser history, browser url) to xor that in to the random bytes. 735978;1403905949;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: on counterwallet or w/e 735979;1403905951;jurov;^ use this. totally sikrit 735980;1403906067;bitcoinpete;https://twitter.com/EIAgov/status/482590503511130112 735981;1403906068;assbot;US crude /hashtag/oil?src=hash production in April 2014= 8.38 MMbbl/d; most since Nov 1987 http://t.co/ne91CvzzQu /hashtag/tightoil?src=hash /hashtag/energy?src=hash http://t.co/zkc4O82Cu0 735982;1403906101;bitcoinpete;pumping black gold, hoarding germany gold gold... 735983;1403906107;bitcoinpete;good times in the gasenwagen! 735984;1403906202;bitcoinpete;penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/ << pankkake, i like 735985;1403906203;assbot;Fullnode.co is a scam | pankkake 735986;1403906210;bitcoinpete;good to see you blogging more 735987;1403906343;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.02794968 = 0.8105 BTC [-] {2} 735988;1403906418;bitcoinpete;nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << yes! wonder what's going on there atm.. 735989;1403906467;mike_c;nuttin, auction's over. 735990;1403906471;fluffypony;just about to close isn't it? 735991;1403906474;fluffypony;there you go 735992;1403906562;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market USMS 735993;1403906562;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all' 735994;1403906562;bitstein;You know, it would be a lot easier if we just listed what Bitcoin businesses _aren't_ scams. 735995;1403906581;fluffypony;bitstein: would be a very short list 735996;1403906587;jurov;;;ticker --market noscam 735997;1403906587;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all' 735998;1403906590;bitcoinpete;bitstein: … we do 735999;1403906602;bitcoinpete;those in the wot are not scams 736000;1403906614;jurov;you see... gribble does nto support such markets 736001;1403906615;bitcoinpete;until proven otherwise 736002;1403906631;bitcoinpete;those outside the wot are scams… until proven otherwise 736003;1403906652;bitstein;Yes, that's a good way to filter through. 736004;1403906661;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: rape me << reminds me of maebe bluth's "marry me" 736005;1403906667;jurov;the only non-scam is death 736006;1403906684;BingoBoingo;Death is a scam. 736007;1403906708;jurov;lol howso? 736008;1403906801;bitcoinpete;afterlives, souls, etc ? 736009;1403906825;bitcoinpete;"we are all but energy that can neither be created nor destroyed" ? 736010;1403906848;jurov;afterlives concern only scammers who sell death derivatives 736011;1403906918;bitcoinpete;like churches 736012;1403906927;bitcoinpete;please to tithe 736013;1403906928;jurov;no one ever came after the death like "yeah i did this good investment while i lived" 736014;1403906953;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00081913 = 47.6734 BTC [+] {3} 736015;1403906975;bitcoinpete;;;rate jurov 2 coinbr 736016;1403906976;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 1 to 2. 736017;1403906991;jurov;;;rated bitcoinpete 736018;1403906992;gribble;You have not yet rated user bitcoinpete 736019;1403907042;jurov;;;rate bitcoinpete 1 spiffy blog. coinbr trader. 736020;1403907043;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded. 736021;1403907055;bitcoinpete;a ty 736022;1403907078;bitcoinpete;;;rated kakobrekla 736023;1403907079;gribble;You rated user kakobrekla on Wed Apr 16 20:43:33 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels. 736024;1403907089;bitcoinpete;hm needs more 736025;1403907107;jurov;lol do you know what's meant by "greasing the wheels" around here? 736026;1403907131;jurov;a nice little bribe 736027;1403907132;bitcoinpete;jurov: lol i could almost guess but what is it actually? 736028;1403907136;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69100 @ 0.00082063 = 56.7055 BTC [+] {5} 736029;1403907138;bitcoinpete;o ha 736030;1403907146;bitcoinpete;ya means the same here too 736031;1403907162;bitcoinpete;sorta the joke ;) 736032;1403907200;bitcoinpete;;;rate kakobrekla 2 greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels. hasn't run off with bitbets 736033;1403907201;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 2. 736034;1403907246;bitcoinpete;;;rate 1 bitstein bright kid. runs nakamoto institute. 736035;1403907246;gribble;Error: 'bitstein' is not a valid integer. 736036;1403907248;kakobrekla;imma need to order http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO nao 736037;1403907250;assbot;Amazon.com: Passion Natural Water-Based Lubricant - 55 Gallon: Health & Personal Care 736038;1403907262;jurov;shoulda also rate lampelina as subgreaser, no? 736039;1403907265;bitcoinpete;;;rate bitstein 1 bright kid. runs nakamoto institute. 736040;1403907266;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bitstein has changed from 1 to 1. 736041;1403907283;bitcoinpete;o i c 736042;1403907294;bitstein;"Error: 'bitstein' is not a valid integer." Good to know I'm not just a number. 736043;1403907311;benkay;https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/482295995380690944 // oop is seductively rational, only disclosing its insanities after much research by way smart people 736044;1403907312;assbot;I feel like I wasted much of the last decade by trying to make sense of programming fashion (mostly OO) rather than trusting my instincts. 736045;1403907312;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: there's nothing natural about unnatural lube 736046;1403907326;bitcoinpete;o hey benkay ! 736047;1403907332;benkay;hey bitcoinpete 736048;1403907337;benkay;how are you today? 736049;1403907357;bitcoinpete;quite well, i'd say 736050;1403907363;bitcoinpete;and yourself? 736051;1403907382;bitcoinpete;bitstein: and don't let them turn you in to one either ;) 736052;1403907446;bitcoinpete;;;rate mthreat 1 maker of supremely useful #bitcoin-assets search 736053;1403907447;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. 736054;1403907455;bitstein;It'd be like in Anthem. We would be called Equality 7-2521. 736055;1403907541;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/ << wait im in the "community" nao ? << you're also "an excellent PR" ! 736056;1403907541;assbot;Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin 736057;1403907683;benkay;bitcoinpete: slaying aws clusters allllll dayyyyyy and taking a contractor out for dinner after 736058;1403907725;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. << this, for 150 years. what nietzsche was on about with master-slave morality. 736059;1403907737;bitcoinpete;benkay: the high life! 736060;1403907745;benkay;and writing documentation. 736061;1403907750;bitcoinpete;are you boys finding a nice rooftop patio somewheres downtown? 736062;1403907751;benkay;always with the documentation. 736063;1403907771;benkay;that'd be nice, but we're keeping overhead to negligible levels for the immediate future. 736064;1403907789;benkay;instead of renting an office, we have a running tab with a rather nice local cafe 736065;1403907815;benkay;my partner does have a large porch upon which we work when the weather's nice 736066;1403907833;bitcoinpete;fuckin heysteve stole my shit… or I, his 736067;1403907856;bitcoinpete;fuckin logs 736068;1403907881;bitcoinpete;benkay: and for apres diner drinks? 736069;1403907898;bitcoinpete;and wd keeping costs down. fuck rent 736070;1403907905;BingoBoingo;Death is a scam, because it Gox's your wallet 736071;1403908021;benkay;bitcoinpete: apres dinner malarkey of all sorts 736072;1403908173;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0299995 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2} 736073;1403908593;bitcoinpete;mircea_popescu: not exactly. more like you aspire to be godlike on the theory that the world's a sausage press. << lulz! dat analogy. 736074;1403908632;bitcoinpete;alright beer time.. 736075;1403908649;kakobrekla;benkay here is your answer : https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/blob/fd838ccb2b1d37bda02eecdf09c324863f050812/wp-admin/setup-config.php#L211 736076;1403908650;assbot;WordPress/wp-admin/setup-config.php at fd838ccb2b1d37bda02eecdf09c324863f050812 WordPress/WordPress GitHub 736077;1403908863;benkay;http://www.lustocracy.com/ 736078;1403908863;assbot;Lustocracy | Error! 736079;1403908894;benkay;well that's downright inspirational, kakobrekla 736080;1403908914;benkay;http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wp_remote_get 736081;1403908915;assbot;Function Reference/wp remote get « WordPress Codex 736082;1403908918;benkay;not even https? 736083;1403908948;Mats_cd03;its brilliant in its simplicity 736084;1403908954;benkay;i guess ssl_verify might help... 736085;1403908959;benkay;sslverify i mean 736086;1403908967;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00081901 = 11.3023 BTC [-] {2} 736087;1403908974;Mats_cd03;hue. 736088;1403908977;benkay;but how do you force wp_remote_get to use https? 736089;1403909007;kakobrekla;i see https in the sauce 736090;1403909009;kakobrekla;but regardless. 736091;1403909023;benkay;kinda bunk. 736092;1403909039;kakobrekla;someone failed at the auction - now buying buttstamp coins 736093;1403909051;benkay;so...what is that used for internally to wordpress? 736094;1403909055;benkay;;;ticker --market bitstamp 736095;1403909056;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 595.99, Best ask: 598.02, Bid-ask spread: 2.03000, Last trade: 598.0, 24 hour volume: 9246.56975719, 24 hour low: 573.52, 24 hour high: 598.02, 24 hour vwap: 583.841306381 736096;1403909107;kakobrekla;hey its from your guy (i think) https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/480105287689314305 736097;1403909108;assbot;TIL: Good random number generation is hard in PHP, so Wordpress HTTP GETs random salt from http://t.co/LFH4pAKh5U. https://t.co/57TTgbCEKj 736098;1403909128;benkay;yup 736099;1403909154;benkay;lol "SecureRandom is so slow!" 736100;1403909164;benkay;berhardt's pretty great, kakobrekla. 736101;1403909278;kakobrekla;not bad ye 736102;1403909332;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00082117 = 17.0803 BTC [+] {3} 736103;1403909346;mike_c;maybe the auction bids leaked. anyone check USMS twitter feed? 736104;1403909370;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market USMS 736105;1403909370;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all' 736106;1403909385;BingoBoingo;Still not sync'd with gribble... 736107;1403910142;mircea_popescu;o hai 736108;1403910151;mircea_popescu;!up Pilate 736109;1403910186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 89 @ 0.033 = 2.937 BTC [+] 736110;1403910369;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15799 @ 0.00081753 = 12.9162 BTC [-] {2} 736111;1403910430;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082064 = 15.2639 BTC [+] {2} 736112;1403910658;mircea_popescu;Mats_cd03: seasonal homeless exist everywhere its warm during the summer << i just walked by a guy who was sleeping on the sidewalk. 736113;1403910667;mircea_popescu;he had a matress, and a cover, and a nice sleeping HAT 736114;1403910678;mircea_popescu;by no means a rare sight. 736115;1403910725;mircea_popescu;fluffypony: I'd be fucking ecstatic if I double'd my BTC regardless of what some shitty fiat market thinks a BTC is worth in 'Murka << duh. 736116;1403910743;mircea_popescu;i so very much cared when my btc holdings "collapsed" from 15 per btc to 2 per btc. 736117;1403910758;mircea_popescu;there's prolly still logs of me crying all over it back in 2012. 736118;1403910771;BingoBoingo;http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2997fe/this_phenomenon_where_in_alternatives_to_bitcoin/ciiwn85 736119;1403910772;assbot;This phenomenon where in alternatives to Bitcoin attract increasingly homogenous groups is perhaps most evident in Dogecoiners who seemingly want to make the Dystopia depicted below to become a reality : dogecoin 736120;1403910809;BingoBoingo;^ pankkake 736121;1403910836;mircea_popescu;the notion that cheap highway whores or mcdonalds "attract" anyone is kinda lulzy. 736122;1403910849;mircea_popescu;they're not attracted, they just don't got money to go anywhere better. 736123;1403910884;mircea_popescu;"homelessness attracts an increasingly homogenuous population of social studies postdocs that simply couldn't afford a home" 736124;1403910889;pankkake;BingoBoingo: the comment linked appears to be deleted 736125;1403910908;pankkake;if it's yours, it might be the stealth deletion feature and you still see it 736126;1403910920;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Already? 736127;1403910979;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 126 @ 0.03002462 = 3.7831 BTC [+] {5} 736128;1403911006;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Sure, but this is the internet so the poor can hitch their nothing to Dogecoin, Darkcoin, or whatever reflects their particular type of poor as they imagine it best 736129;1403911048;mircea_popescu;dogecoin is like libertard, darkcoin like republican ? 736130;1403911118;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: imma need to order http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO nao << i go to local 7/11. buncha teenage chicks bothering the clerk with their inane teenage bs. 736131;1403911120;assbot;Amazon.com: Passion Natural Water-Based Lubricant - 55 Gallon: Health & Personal Care 736132;1403911128;BingoBoingo;darkcoin's prolly more like green party 736133;1403911131;mircea_popescu;i order 12 packs of condoms. he's all flustered. says he doesn't have em. 736134;1403911133;mircea_popescu;i point. 736135;1403911150;mircea_popescu;he gets even more flustered. "how many ?" "doce." 736136;1403911160;mircea_popescu;he picks two packs. "dos ? o doce ?" "doce." 736137;1403911175;mircea_popescu;he's ready to call the cops because this should not be fucking allowed. 736138;1403911200;mircea_popescu;i regret it didn't occur to me to ask for passion natural water lubricant too 736139;1403911203;mircea_popescu;half galon. 736140;1403911258;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete: ;;rate mthreat 1 maker of supremely useful #bitcoin-assets search << btw mthreat how many searches does it serve a day ? 736141;1403911284;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21677 @ 0.00081794 = 17.7305 BTC [-] {2} 736142;1403911311;kakobrekla;well 736143;1403911316;BingoBoingo;pankkake: Apparently reddit butchers GPG signatures too 736144;1403911316;kakobrekla;!s !s 736145;1403911316;assbot;4021 results for '!s' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21s 736146;1403911330;kakobrekla;!s "!s" 736147;1403911331;assbot;4021 results for '"!s"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%21s%22 736148;1403911334;kakobrekla;meh 736149;1403911390;kakobrekla;i would guess between 2 and 7 736150;1403911415;mircea_popescu;im curious if 100s or 1000s 736151;1403911441;kakobrekla;imo way way less. doesnt mean its any less awesome 736152;1403911520;mircea_popescu;yes it does! like before taking 100+ cox kim kadashian was kinda not so awesome. but then she took 1000+ cox and was almost as awesome as that other chick 736153;1403911528;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.02701825 = 1.1077 BTC [-] {5} 736154;1403911552;mthreat;mircea_popescu: it's 100s or less 736155;1403911578;mircea_popescu;well there goes tjhat theory. 736156;1403911585;mthreat;1719 hits since june 20 9pm 736157;1403911589;mthreat;including some bots 736158;1403911602;mircea_popescu;;;calc 1719 / 7 736159;1403911603;gribble;245.571428571 736160;1403911609;mircea_popescu;it would seem to me your math is teh suk 736161;1403911663;mthreat;245 is hundreds, eh? or did you mean total, not per day 736162;1403911695;mircea_popescu;ah you meant 100s or less inclusive 736163;1403911698;mircea_popescu;i see now 736164;1403911703;mthreat;O(100) 736165;1403911786;mthreat;in any case, not enough traffic for an IPO 736166;1403911811;chetty;http://news.yahoo.com/blackout-hits-venezuela-interrupts-presidential-broadcast-204030360.html 736167;1403911813;assbot;Venezuela blackout leaves commuters scrambling, silences president - Yahoo News 736168;1403911829;mircea_popescu;lol 736169;1403911865;ThickAsThieves;he drank too much! 736170;1403911969;kakobrekla;250 hits a day? 736171;1403911975;kakobrekla;but how many searches? 736172;1403911986;mircea_popescu;does the new venezuela guy drinkj ? 736173;1403912046;mthreat;kakobrekla: looks like 864, filtering out .css hits 736174;1403912057;mthreat;;;calc 864 / 8 736175;1403912058;gribble;108 736176;1403912074;mthreat;I was close1 736177;1403912077;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.025 = 1.325 BTC [-] {4} 736178;1403912079;kakobrekla;unberivabru 736179;1403912129;BingoBoingo;Is Venezuala like Argentina lacking a liquor to call its own? 736180;1403912138;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20109999 = 0.6033 BTC [-] 736181;1403912192;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo actually that's bs. just found the local cognac 736182;1403912197;mircea_popescu;"reserva san jose". pretty decent 736183;1403912199;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00234684 = 1.7601 BTC [-] {4} 736184;1403912202;BingoBoingo;Cool 736185;1403912219;mircea_popescu;the problem with this country is that people believe it's okay to say no. 736186;1403912222;BingoBoingo;Last time you mentioned the subject, the conversation was troubling 736187;1403912237;mircea_popescu;like, if they don't understand what you're saying, or iuf they deem it too much effort, they figure thery may just pretend it doesn't exist. 736188;1403912253;mircea_popescu;so a lot of tourists form wrong ideas about what exists and is available. 736189;1403912260;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 334 @ 0.00234581 = 0.7835 BTC [-] {2} 736190;1403912274;mircea_popescu;you gotta ask properly. don't go "do you have..." like a fucking retard. go "either you bring me x or i'll beat you to death." 736191;1403912282;mircea_popescu;that, they get. 736192;1403912350;ThickAsThieves;This Coindesk high of the day might get written in the last minute 736193;1403912374;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market USMS 736194;1403912374;gribble;Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all' 736195;1403912391;BingoBoingo;^nanotube why isn't gribble tied into the auction? 736196;1403912402;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 736197;1403912406;ThickAsThieves;because he's outta string 736198;1403912408;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 598.17, vol: 9033.26041319 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 595.0, vol: 5896.42504 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 601.0, vol: 7073.33692063 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 604.9, vol: 44.27179999 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 608.304792, vol: 4766.72410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 597.69266, vol: 21.76241551 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 574.5808, vol: 113.26259978 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 736199;1403912410;BingoBoingo;;;more 736200;1403912410;gribble;599.923361702 736201;1403912459;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/wmd-4th-gen-quest.pdf << for fissionless nuke fans 736202;1403912541;asciilifeform;http://cryptome.org/2014/06/gao-14-496.pdf << us dhs derp on btc 736203;1403912565;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00081583 = 17.7443 BTC [-] 736204;1403912765;BingoBoingo;!up chax 736205;1403912809;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.026 = 0.546 BTC [+] {2} 736206;1403912810;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00081849 = 9.6582 BTC [+] {2} 736207;1403912810;BingoBoingo;!up Cosmos 736208;1403912834;BingoBoingo;!up ninjashogun 736209;1403912865;BingoBoingo;!jd mpif 736210;1403912866;assbot;Bad JD response. 736211;1403912871;BingoBoingo;!jd 736212;1403912871;assbot;Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered 736213;1403913293;nanotube; nanotube you might want to get that looked at. <- what am i looking at? 736214;1403913305;kakobrekla;;;nethash 736215;1403913306;gribble;1.72688358042 736216;1403913320;kakobrekla;should be at least 2. 736217;1403913430;nanotube;hm also i guess the data source changed from ghps to phps ... 736218;1403913470;kakobrekla;oh noes not the PHPs 736219;1403913493;nanotube;lol 736220;1403913795;mircea_popescu;!up wittness 736221;1403914288;mircea_popescu;!up Bohemian_Lady 736222;1403914299;mircea_popescu;what brings you here Bohemian_Lady ? 736223;1403914317;mircea_popescu;and check that out, webirc has stopped publishing people's ips 736224;1403914330;Bohemian_Lady;I saw the bitcoin for tits post 736225;1403914346;mircea_popescu;a cool. so where can i see your prev work ? 736226;1403914360;Bohemian_Lady;I used to be a regular poster to /r/decrypto 736227;1403914388;mircea_popescu;link something ? 736228;1403914401;Bohemian_Lady;yup just a sec 736229;1403914446;Bohemian_Lady;It used to be weekly but I've been pretty busy lately... http://camgirladventures.blogspot.com/ 736230;1403914447;assbot;Cam Girl Adventures 736231;1403914491;mircea_popescu;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U9P2lFBKSjI/U4Dn00mkdQI/AAAAAAAAAHo/3i2Kq5seSQ4/s1600/cirvix.jpg 736232;1403914503;mircea_popescu;gotta respect that. is self-applied retractor painful ? 736233;1403914507;mircea_popescu;!up dnaleor 736234;1403914563;Bohemian_Lady;lol nope not at all 736235;1403914590;mircea_popescu;Bohemian_Lady ok so put 46d2868d on your chest and take a pic. 736236;1403914617;Bohemian_Lady;coming right up 736237;1403914761;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00081846 = 17.5969 BTC [-] 736238;1403914895;mircea_popescu;!up bommmm 736239;1403914910;mircea_popescu;so what brings you over, bommmm & dnaleor ? 736240;1403914912;bommmm;!up 736241;1403914921;bommmm;boom 736242;1403914921;mircea_popescu;bommmm it only works if i do it 736243;1403914932;bommmm;ok? 736244;1403914961;bommmm;I like bitcoin and stumbled here 736245;1403914966;mircea_popescu;cool. 736246;1403914985;dnaleor;mircea_popescu: darlidada told me i should ffollow this channel 736247;1403914986;mthreat;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHCVyllnck 736248;1403914986;assbot;Idiocracy "I like money" - YouTube 736249;1403914994;mircea_popescu;he's prolly right. 736250;1403915039;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nhRViM02Mk 736251;1403915039;assbot;Real Life Idiocracy in America - The Obama Effect - YouTube 736252;1403915102;bommmm;gribble 736253;1403915145;Bohemian_Lady;bam http://imgur.com/D6GfMIM 736254;1403915146;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 736255;1403915160;Bohemian_Lady;sorry that took so long I had to enlist the BF's help 736256;1403915305;mircea_popescu;i'd say that's a pass. addy ? 736257;1403915399;mircea_popescu;Bohemian_Lady what's your bitcoin address ? 736258;1403915403;dnaleor;can guys also take pictures and get 0.1 BTC? lol 736259;1403915444;mircea_popescu;dnaleor sadly no, for this thing i'm looking for women only. 736260;1403915444;kakobrekla;i think if you mpexify your sausage. 736261;1403915449;kakobrekla;ah 736262;1403915455;kakobrekla;nvm then 736263;1403915460;Bohemian_Lady;just a sec 736264;1403915476;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla just because i made an exception for lampelina doesn't mean it goes for all guys nao :D 736265;1403915486;Bohemian_Lady;1KQgXHAGkJmiALfPLC1tnPgY55xoyqSJwf 736266;1403915492;kakobrekla;:p 736267;1403915495;Bohemian_Lady;sorry to day has been hell on wheels 736268;1403915512;mthreat;kaching 736269;1403915515;mircea_popescu;291254f69b5431a58214e60d4e08fecf93a702dda9f7c703848efeea05a7d032 736270;1403915533;Bohemian_Lady;totaly awesome! 736271;1403915536;mircea_popescu;and now if you're into taking things further, get yourself a registered with gribble 736272;1403915545;mircea_popescu;it'll prolly make you more in teh future. 736273;1403915585;Bohemian_Lady;mmm sounds worth 736274;1403915587;pankkake;http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets 736275;1403915587;assbot;first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] 736276;1403915595;Bohemian_Lady;worth it shit I can type I promise 736277;1403915598;mircea_popescu;o woot we havew an intro guide 736278;1403915616;pankkake;thanks to moiety 736279;1403915627;Bohemian_Lady;Sweet now I can rtfm 736280;1403915639;mircea_popescu;#getting-women-in-teh-ch-one-tit-at-a-titme 736281;1403915711;kakobrekla;freenode approves. 736282;1403915725;mircea_popescu;"If you have any further queries, you can call #bitcoin-assets reception on +1 646 480 0703 or skype ID bitcoinassets or PM moiety in-channel." 736283;1403915726;mircea_popescu;epic 736284;1403915743;Bohemian_Lady;good to know ^_^ 736285;1403915771;mircea_popescu;Bohemian_Lady i was just rtfm myself lol 736286;1403915790;Bohemian_Lady;everyone has to do it some times ^_^ 736287;1403915802;mircea_popescu;;;later tell moiety gotta splice a guide on how to make a gpg key into the (excellent btw) first steps to b-a guide. 736288;1403915803;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736289;1403915935;Bohemian_Lady;Mmm nothing like making a little porn while on break... now I gota finish fixing my motor bike 736290;1403915945;Bohemian_Lady;later guys 736291;1403915961;mircea_popescu;latere 736292;1403916168;BingoBoingo;%t 736293;1403916170;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 1k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 736294;1403916207;pankkake;http://camgirladventures.blogspot.com/2013/12/happy-new-year-and-late-marry-christmas.html I had no idea those things existed 736295;1403916207;assbot;Cam Girl Adventures: Happy new year and a late Marry Christmas! 736296;1403916537;BingoBoingo;!up teward 736297;1403916713;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17056 @ 0.00081811 = 13.9537 BTC [-] 736298;1403917140;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00081646 = 30.9847 BTC [-] {3} 736299;1403917190;BingoBoingo;%d 736300;1403917190;benkay;;;google ultimate gpg guide 736301;1403917191;gribble;Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal: ; Creating a new GPG key | Ana's blog: ; Generating More Secure GPG Keys: A Step-by-Step Guide: 736302;1403917191;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 374870.76 in 1606 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -26.71 736303;1403917213;benkay;;;later tell moiety https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/ per mircea_popescu's suggestion 736304;1403917214;assbot;Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal 736305;1403917214;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736306;1403917750;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46081 @ 0.00081346 = 37.4851 BTC [-] {4} 736307;1403918155;benkay;http://thecodelesscode.com/case/40 736308;1403918156;assbot;The Codeless Code: Case 40 Authority 736309;1403918161;benkay;The scribe asked the Java master: “Why do you have me record so many tales of students who require correction?” 736310;1403918161;benkay;The master said: “So that a fool may read them, and realize that he is a fool.” 736311;1403918161;benkay;The scribe asked: “Does mere ignorance or error make one a fool?” 736312;1403918161;benkay;The master said: “No. The fool is the one who calls himself ‘master’ and speaks with a semblance of authority. His error begins when he opens his mouth, and multiplies when he closes it, leaving much unsaid.” 736313;1403918166;benkay;The scribe said: “Then would it not be wiser to say nothing, either to the student or to the scribe?” 736314;1403918169;benkay;The master said: “Indeed, my very existence on your pages begins and ends in error. If I had any wit I’d cast your book into the sea.” 736315;1403918172;benkay;The scribe said: “There is no book here, and no sea, and anyway you lack hands or a body to accomplish the task.” 736316;1403918172;benkay;The master said: “Then I am content.” 736317;1403918196;ThickAsThieves;High for the day for Coindesk Index is $600.86 736318;1403918203;ThickAsThieves;for http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 736319;1403918203;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 1 day 1 hour ago 736320;1403918207;ThickAsThieves;just an FYI! 736321;1403918217;benkay;does the TA indicate a head and shoulders pattern forming? 736322;1403918220;benkay;or a breakout? 736323;1403918298;benkay;ThickAsThieves: ^^ 736324;1403918330;ThickAsThieves;not sure if serious 736325;1403918416;ThickAsThieves;my short term assessment is we just broke thru an Ichimoku cloud, which likely be used as a foundation for another run up. 736326;1403918432;benkay;trolls trolling trolls trolling trollface.png 736327;1403918485;ThickAsThieves;http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/ichimoku-cloud.asp 736328;1403918486;assbot;Ichimoku Cloud Definition | Investopedia 736329;1403918665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03091489 = 3.0915 BTC [+] {7} 736330;1403918848;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 47 @ 0.03094984 = 1.4546 BTC [+] {3} 736331;1403919645;thestringpuller;an~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 736332;1403919651;thestringpuller;da fuq 736333;1403919655;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 736334;1403919658;gribble;Current Blocks: 308209 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 238 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 5 hours, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16733659800.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.29757 736335;1403919876;thestringpuller;;;tslb 736336;1403919882;gribble;Time since last block: 5 minutes and 13 seconds 736337;1403920007;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4596 @ 0.00081861 = 3.7623 BTC [+] {2} 736338;1403921715;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00081369 = 14.2803 BTC [-] 736339;1403922569;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26593 @ 0.00081369 = 21.6385 BTC [-] 736340;1403923179;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081935 = 5.9813 BTC [+] 736341;1403923362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.029 = 0.522 BTC [-] 736342;1403923911;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19310031 = 0.5793 BTC [-] 736343;1403924095;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13337 @ 0.00081344 = 10.8488 BTC [-] {2} 736344;1403924141;asciilifeform;http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 736345;1403924143;assbot;Loper OS » Practical Blockchain Telegraphy. 736346;1403924181;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 736347;1403924948;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.02698167 = 0.7285 BTC [-] {10} 736348;1403925570;kakobrekla;>One obvious criticism – ’slow.’ < lucky for you theres dogecoin 736349;1403925576;asciilifeform;lol 736350;1403925741;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21285 @ 0.0008147 = 17.3409 BTC [+] 736351;1403925949;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: in the mean time, feature idea. sell folks an hour's channel voice for 1 btc. e.g. so mr spam can talk. 736352;1403926035;asciilifeform;(like sex, most folks can get some for free, but others... must pay. an empty niche here.) 736353;1403926047;kakobrekla;some expensive shit we are selling. 736354;1403926107;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25481 @ 0.00081511 = 20.7698 BTC [+] 736355;1403926153;asciilifeform;if thorstein veblen was right - we'll be deluged with 'customers.' at least for a while. 736356;1403926168;asciilifeform;(no worries - that is what 'ignore' button is for) 736357;1403926484;kakobrekla;would make a great ipo. 736358;1403926618;asciilifeform;lol 736359;1403926796;asciilifeform;s.spam 736360;1403926992;asciilifeform;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ogmRCCH3Q 736361;1403926992;assbot;Jakob Bienenhalm - Computer ich Befehle dir (Electric Dream) - YouTube 736362;1403927205;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0309446 = 1.6401 BTC [+] {8} 736363;1403927693;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33776 @ 0.00081606 = 27.5632 BTC [+] {3} 736364;1403929584;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082116 = 3.2846 BTC [+] 736365;1403929645;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85772 @ 0.00082269 = 70.5638 BTC [+] {5} 736366;1403929731;kakobrekla;not bad 736367;1403930135;Mats_cd03;lol 736368;1403930137;punkman;http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/06/28#l1403925443 736369;1403930138;assbot;BitcoinStats 736370;1403930160;punkman;he's persistent, selling them reports 736371;1403930398;asciilifeform;'...I probably have the best feedback of anyone you could ask. (I know, because I had asked around in all btc-related channels...' << what does he smoke ? 736372;1403931292;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00082045 = 10.7479 BTC [-] 736373;1403931956;punkman;!up Phraust 736374;1403931970;Phraust;danke 736375;1403931975;punkman;hi 736376;1403932046;punkman;!up chax 736377;1403932084;punkman;;;gettrust assbot Phraust 736378;1403932086;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Phraust: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Phraust | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Phraust | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 16:58:11 2011 736379;1403932175;Phraust;guess I should auth. XD 736380;1403932216;punkman;I see you are oldschool 736381;1403932238;punkman;assbot doesn't trust you yet though 736382;1403932734;punkman;lol https://github.com/shinh/sedlisp 736383;1403932735;assbot;shinh/sedlisp GitHub 736384;1403932939;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26945 @ 0.00081742 = 22.0254 BTC [-] {2} 736385;1403933610;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00081866 = 10.2333 BTC [+] 736386;1403933806;punkman;http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 736387;1403933806;assbot;Facebook tinkered with users feeds for a massive psychology experiment · Newswire · The A.V. Club 736388;1403933848;punkman;now if they can figure out how to put users in ad-clicking moods 736389;1403934004;punkman;maybe you'll go to the doctor and he'll prescribe 3 hours of facebook a day, "please turn the dial to prozac mode" 736390;1403934587;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00081738 = 35.7195 BTC [-] 736391;1403934830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00081738 = 3.1878 BTC [-] 736392;1403935806;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00081613 = 22.362 BTC [-] 736393;1403936538;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.0008184 = 11.4576 BTC [+] {2} 736394;1403937026;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4221 @ 0.00081866 = 3.4556 BTC [+] 736395;1403937636;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082047 = 13.2096 BTC [+] 736396;1403938490;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22462 @ 0.00081798 = 18.3735 BTC [-] {3} 736397;1403939954;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00081955 = 14.2602 BTC [+] 736398;1403941296;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00081863 = 6.2216 BTC [-] 736399;1403942455;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00081853 = 30.613 BTC [-] {2} 736400;1403942632;benkay;;;rate ninjashogun -9 inquire within 736401;1403942633;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -9 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. 736402;1403942930;punkman;wottease 736403;1403943492;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48772 @ 0.00082216 = 40.0984 BTC [+] {3} 736404;1403944712;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2} 736405;1403944956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43115 @ 0.0008231 = 35.488 BTC [+] {2} 736406;1403945200;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25613 @ 0.00082265 = 21.0705 BTC [-] {2} 736407;1403946485;BingoBoingo;;;rate ninjashogun -1 has the flavor of an UnSavory Garnish 736408;1403946486;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. 736409;1403947518;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2031 @ 0.02151696 = 43.7009 BTC [-] {41} 736410;1403948590;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 736411;1403948592;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.0, Best ask: 597.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.73000, Last trade: 594.64, 24 hour volume: 6881.10575204, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 600.0, 24 hour vwap: 588.52709013 736412;1403948605;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 736413;1403948611;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 594.64, vol: 6881.07310903 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 595.0, vol: 5320.23678 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 600.16, vol: 8061.37427984 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 604.0, vol: 37.06848627 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 608.727696, vol: 5142.33540000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 590.91605, vol: 21.86115249 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 599.1472, vol: 145.62163831 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) 736414;1403948615;BingoBoingo;;;more 736415;1403948615;gribble;599.317143044 736416;1403948753;BingoBoingo;%t 736417;1403948754;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 736418;1403948757;BingoBoingo;%d 736419;1403948760;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 358102.38 in 1581 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -29.99 736420;1403948763;BingoBoingo;%ob 736421;1403948764;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 965k@199 750k@175 216k@160 736422;1403951544;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00081907 = 32.1075 BTC [-] {3} 736423;1403952703;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 89 @ 0.01760084 = 1.5665 BTC [+] {3} 736424;1403952886;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1477 @ 0.00082087 = 1.2124 BTC [+] {2} 736425;1403953191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19001 @ 0.0008215 = 15.6093 BTC [+] 736426;1403954411;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12572 @ 0.00082285 = 10.3449 BTC [+] 736427;1403957217;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00082121 = 31.8629 BTC [-] {3} 736428;1403958193;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00082362 = 32.7389 BTC [+] {3} 736429;1403959657;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00082388 = 22.4507 BTC [+] {2} 736430;1403960938;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082397 = 15.161 BTC [+] {2} 736431;1403961670;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37154 @ 0.00082456 = 30.6357 BTC [+] {3} 736432;1403962768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00081892 = 9.4995 BTC [-] {2} 736433;1403963073;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02222982 = 0.5557 BTC [+] {2} 736434;1403963683;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.02301053 = 0.8974 BTC [-] {8} 736435;1403963744;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24901 @ 0.00082306 = 20.495 BTC [+] 736436;1403965025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.0008251 = 22.5252 BTC [+] {2} 736437;1403965299;kakobrekla;!up Conwke 736438;1403965513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.02207304 = 2.5384 BTC [-] {4} 736439;1403965772;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 736440;1403965774;gribble;Current Blocks: 308310 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 137 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 56 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16784456577.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.67489 736441;1403966306;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11808 @ 0.00082511 = 9.7429 BTC [+] 736442;1403966389;kakobrekla;http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Zwanzig-Jahre-alte-Luecke-in-Lempel-Ziv-Kompression-gefaehrdet-Linux-Nutzer-2240442.html 736443;1403966390;assbot;Zwanzig Jahre alte Lcke in Lempel-Ziv-Kompression gefhrdet Linux-Nutzer | heise online 736444;1403966426;kakobrekla;bugs on mars 736445;1403966855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 620 @ 0.00200081 = 1.2405 BTC [-] {6} 736446;1403966977;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57189 @ 0.0008243 = 47.1409 BTC [-] {4} 736447;1403967043;kakobrekla;also 736448;1403967043;kakobrekla;https://citizenlab.org/2014/06/backdoor-hacking-teams-tradecraft-android-implant/ 736449;1403967044;assbot;Hacking Teams Tradecraft and Android Implant 736450;1403967831;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.021501 = 1.0751 BTC [-] 736451;1403967892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00082758 = 17.7516 BTC [+] 736452;1403968355;asciilifeform;http://pastebin.com/kG3AsUKP 736453;1403968355;assbot;[C] LZ4 memory corruption PoC - Pastebin.com 736454;1403968794;*;asciilifeform nominates Yann Collet for 'flondor list' 736455;1403968807;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.021501 = 0.645 BTC [-] 736456;1403969037;asciilifeform;(what list? the one containing this fellow: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/22i30k/the_author_of_the_openssl_heartbleed_bug_also) 736457;1403969038;assbot;The author of the OpenSSL Heartbleed bug also wrote the spec : programming 736458;1403969266;kakobrekla;flondor? 736459;1403969322;asciilifeform;!s from:mircea_popescu flondor 736460;1403969322;assbot;0 results for 'from:mircea_popescu+flondor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%2Bflondor 736461;1403969331;asciilifeform;!s flondor 736462;1403969332;assbot;7 results for 'flondor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=flondor 736463;1403969369;asciilifeform;http://trilema.com/2014/georg-ritter-von-flondor-and-what-his-unhappy-life-can-teach-us 736464;1403969370;assbot;Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 736465;1403969770;kakobrekla;ah. 736466;1403969869;kakobrekla;http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/23/amazon-escalates-its-battle-against-hachette/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 736467;1403969931;asciilifeform;'The Authors Guild accused the retailer of acting illegally.' << these are the folks who wanted public libraries banned. 736468;1403969944;asciilifeform;(as well as the sale of used books.) 736469;1403969955;kakobrekla;O_o 736470;1403969962;asciilifeform;i couldn't imagine a better endorsement for amazon than their hatred. 736471;1403969982;thestringpuller;https://coinvalidation.com/home/ << if they aren't whiltelisting or blacklisting, what the actual fuck do these guys do? 736472;1403969983;assbot;CoinValidation - Helping Bitcoin businesses achieve regulatory compliance 736473;1403969986;thestringpuller;Who da fuq is alex waters? 736474;1403970013;thestringpuller;http://coinapex.com/ really tired of da bootstrap scroll sites 736475;1403970013;assbot;CoinApex - NYC-Based Software, Technology & Cryptography Incubator 736476;1403970048;asciilifeform;if they aren't whiltelisting or blacklisting, what the actual fuck do these guys do << they 'do what they must - because they can' (tm) 736477;1403970078;thestringpuller;sounds like a motto for dogecoiners... 736478;1403970087;thestringpuller;(because they love video games) 736479;1403970267;kakobrekla;pretty fuckin sad ascii 736480;1403970328;asciilifeform;'author's guild' tried to have ocr readers used by the blind - banned. 736481;1403970356;asciilifeform;they also mostly succeeded in crippling google's 'book search.' 736482;1403970369;kakobrekla;on what grounds are they getting such ideas 736483;1403970377;asciilifeform;u.s. copyright law. 736484;1403970385;asciilifeform;they're a kind of 'riaa' for books 736485;1403970394;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.021501 = 0.8815 BTC [-] 736486;1403970418;asciilifeform;even the very name of the org is a bold lie - they represent mega-publishers 736487;1403970430;kakobrekla;amazing 736488;1403970430;assbot;AMAZING COMPANY! 736489;1403970570;asciilifeform;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/4593784/Kindle-2-violates-copyright-claims-Authors-Guild.html 736490;1403970570;assbot;Kindle 2 ‘violates copyright’, claims Authors Guild - Telegraph 736491;1403970586;asciilifeform;'They dont have the right to read a book out loud, said Paul Aiken, executive director of the Authors Guild. Thats an audio right, which is derivative under copyright law.' << these folks have crossed 'parody horizon' long ago,. 736492;1403970598;kakobrekla;lmao 736493;1403970674;kakobrekla;yes, it does sound like a start of monthy python sketch. 736494;1403970759;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00082773 = 4.5939 BTC [+] 736495;1403970773;asciilifeform;https://web.archive.org/web/20021013175439/http://www.authorsguild.org/pramazon040902.html 736496;1403970843;asciilifeform;http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/10/technology/10BOOK.html 736497;1403970844;assbot;Online Sales of Used Books Draw Protest - New York Times 736498;1403970860;asciilifeform;'"We asked could we at least talk about when something could become available as a used book? Could we maybe wait three months after the book was published?" said Patricia Schroeder, president of the Association of American Publishers. "The biggest problem is that it is legal, I think. I wring my hands, pound my desk and say, `Aargh.' "' 736499;1403970916;kakobrekla;gold 736500;1403970934;asciilifeform;http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/06/the-authors-alliance.html 736501;1403970934;assbot;The Authors Alliance vs. The Authors Guild 736502;1403971013;asciilifeform;phun phact: 736503;1403971044;asciilifeform;you can get virtually any book ever published - for free, searchable, in any format you like - on the net. in five seconds.... if you speak russian or chinese. 736504;1403971115;asciilifeform;idiot anglo empire wants to shoot itself in the head? sure, why not. 736505;1403971130;kakobrekla;hm 736506;1403971139;asciilifeform;'if you see a man drowning, and you can either photograph or save him - what shutter and aperture settings would you use?' 736507;1403971144;kakobrekla;should prolly go with russian since i can somewhat parse cyrillic 736508;1403971186;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.02114413 = 0.6132 BTC [-] {3} 736509;1403971187;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.80830714 BTC to 9`682 shares, 18677 satoshi per share 736510;1403971308;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 18.50566440 BTC to 72`316 shares, 25590 satoshi per share 736511;1403971308;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17214 @ 0.00082412 = 14.1864 BTC [-] 736512;1403971309;asciilifeform;https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/another-fair-use-victory-book-scanning-hathitrust 736513;1403971310;assbot;Another Fair Use Victory for Book Scanning in HathiTrust | Electronic Frontier Foundation 736514;1403971327;asciilifeform;^ they sued, alleging that... making backups was 'excessive copying' 736515;1403971368;kakobrekla;ot, i actually took like a half year russian class when i was in elementary. cant recall shit though. 736516;1403971432;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: betcha you can learn russian sooner than this crap disappears (it will probably take a full-bore u.s. collapse) 736517;1403971478;kakobrekla;hah, they dont store it in the internet archive? :) 736518;1403972306;kakobrekla;>and trying to measure an investment over time in a currency as volatile as Bitcoin is just plain dumb. 736519;1403972313;kakobrekla;guess the author 736520;1403972340;kakobrekla;no assbot , its not FabianB . 736521;1403972355;FabianB;huh? 736522;1403972375;FabianB;;;ident FabianB 736523;1403972375;gribble;Nick 'FabianB', with hostmask 'FabianB!~fabian@unaffiliated/fabianb', is identified as user 'fabianb', with GPG key id 797C1106D52E79DF, key fingerprint 9B854E5F36B927C9C365F208797C1106D52E79DF, and bitcoin address 18Wnjc1fcWDboZDHNsn48URtwGaqRjPnAt 736524;1403972384;kakobrekla; >and trying to measure an investment over time in a currency as volatile as Bitcoin is just plain dumb. 736525;1403972384;kakobrekla; guess the author 736526;1403972384;kakobrekla;* assbot gives voice to FabianB 736527;1403972384;kakobrekla; no assbot , its not FabianB . 736528;1403972399;FabianB;lol 736529;1403972400;kakobrekla;blah, should be dpaste but i fail. 736530;1403972427;FabianB;yeah well, that quote wasn't me indeed 736531;1403972873;asciilifeform;benkay: '-9 inquire within' << mr. spam came to you? do tell. 736532;1403972918;kakobrekla;he also wanted to dock me. 736533;1403973156;FabianB;$traded 736534;1403973205;FabianB;hmpf 736535;1403973218;FabianB;$traded 736536;1403973218;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 736537;1403973619;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 736538;1403973621;gribble;Current Blocks: 308325 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 122 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16780864348.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.6482 736539;1403974053;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02337971 = 0.8884 BTC [+] {2} 736540;1403974817;BingoBoingo;%t 736541;1403974818;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 736542;1403974907;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00082241 = 3.0462 BTC [-] {2} 736543;1403974985;benkay;!s sybil 736544;1403974986;assbot;15 results for 'sybil' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sybil 736545;1403975089;benkay;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2014#632962 // heh. 736546;1403975089;assbot;#bitcoin-assets log 736547;1403975129;asciilifeform;'they need to not only create profiles but have a fresh VM/install/whatever for them' << what was he smoking? 736548;1403975226;asciilifeform;that quote betrays a staggering lack of comprehension regarding... virtually every aspect of computing. 736549;1403975273;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89057 @ 0.00082009 = 73.0348 BTC [-] {2} 736550;1403975291;asciilifeform;if protocol has a field 'hash of disk serial number' or whatever, i can stuff anything i like there. 736551;1403975316;asciilifeform;let's assume fluffypony was drinking heavily that day. 736552;1403975329;benkay;http://www.forth.com/archive/jfar/vol1/no1/article1.pdf 736553;1403975418;benkay;;;gettrust lobbes 736554;1403975419;gribble;Currently authenticated from hostmask lobbes!lobbes@2a00:dcc0:eda:3748:247:48:123:1. Trust relationship from user benkay to user lobbes: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=lobbes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=lobbes | Rated since: Sat May 31 10:27:00 2014 736555;1403975430;benkay;lobbes: who are ye? 736556;1403975431;benkay;The choice of Forth was dictated by strong implementation issues. such as 736557;1403975433;benkay;compactness of code. efficiency and portability to other microprocessor-based systems. 736558;1403975457;lobbes;I am a newbie trying to sponge up as much info as possible 736559;1403975484;benkay;ah, so lisp:forth :: python:c, then. 736560;1403975488;benkay;jus' trollin' 736561;1403975499;lobbes;lol 736562;1403975551;benkay;well, welcome lobbes may your studies be fruitful 736563;1403975603;benkay;i want to write some expert systems. 736564;1403975616;benkay;who can i sell this AI snake oil to... 736565;1403975710;asciilifeform;that ship sailed. ai winter. 736566;1403975832;benkay;but think of all the suckers who haven't read their history! 736567;1403975846;benkay;dude have you ever heard an SAP pitch? 736568;1403975868;benkay;if people buy that shit i have a Lisp Machine to sell them. 736569;1403975878;benkay;apropos of nothing: http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/06/the-polity-tht-is-china-dissident-markets-in-everything.html 736570;1403975879;assbot;The polity that is China dissident “markets” in everything 736571;1403975897;[]bot;Bet created: "Twitter stock to close at over $45 in 2014 " http://bitbet.us/bet/971/ 736572;1403975943;BingoBoingo;benkay: Just add "for robots" to your proposal and suddenly the LISP, AI, and expert systems are marketable again. 736573;1403975988;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 736574;1403975989;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 594.0, Best ask: 595.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.98000, Last trade: 595.98, 24 hour volume: 6140.40746732, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 592.02387377 736575;1403976043;[]bot;Bet created: "Silver price over $23/oz in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/972/ 736576;1403976199;mircea_popescu;so i am working on an epic post of grandeur. 736577;1403976210;mircea_popescu;anyone care to guess the topic ? 736578;1403976276;benkay;tits! 736579;1403976328;Duffer1;s.mnky? 736580;1403976348;mircea_popescu;ok so that's two... 736581;1403976374;benkay;steak 736582;1403976393;benkay;la serenissima 736583;1403976405;benkay;i'm just going to put like 5 business cards in this here jar... 736584;1403976421;mircea_popescu;lol 736585;1403976433;mircea_popescu;shit, english lacks a word for one who merely likes to hear himself speak ? 736586;1403976457;benkay;a popescu? 736587;1403976473;Duffer1;;;ud malerik 736588;1403976476;mircea_popescu;fu zingerboy! 736589;1403976476;gribble;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=malerik | Mar 30, 2008 ... Someone who loves to hear himself talk. He will talk about himself to anyone who will listen, for hours. A Malerik also falls in love and tries to ... 736590;1403976493;mircea_popescu;a ty. was gonna fall back on pig latin 736591;1403976495;mircea_popescu;garrulous 736592;1403976569;mircea_popescu;wtf is malerik come from ? 736593;1403976577;Duffer1;no idea 736594;1403976616;mircea_popescu;http://vk.com/id208993329 ? 736595;1403976616;assbot;Karolina Malerik 736596;1403976922;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.03847462 = 0.6156 BTC [-] {2} 736597;1403976977;HeySteve;hello 736598;1403977043;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, I had a question about your "bits for tits" offer. I mentioned it to a woman who is interested but a little reluctant to show her face, is it ok if she doesn't? 736599;1403977063;mircea_popescu;no. 736600;1403977073;mircea_popescu;the reason is, we can't really identify tits. 736601;1403977089;mircea_popescu;for this reason, as the library grows, it'll become trivial for one to just keep getting 10 bitcents 736602;1403977100;mircea_popescu;you see what i mean ? 736603;1403977113;HeySteve;yes, I'll let her know 736604;1403977127;fluffypony;[20:08:37] +asciilifeform: let's assume fluffypony was drinking heavily that day. <- probably...although I have a feeling I was thinking about serial numbers at the time. too hard to try recall. 736605;1403977141;mircea_popescu;fluffypony you can change anything you want about the hdd 736606;1403977150;fluffypony;mircea_popescu: I know 736607;1403977156;HeySteve;also, do you want the woman to accept directly bitcoin as in that previous experiment with the call-girls (I think they were)? 736608;1403977169;mircea_popescu;HeySteve what, you want me to pay via bitpay nao ? 736609;1403977194;HeySteve;nah, was thinking of accepting it for her then paying her out in local fiats, she has no idea about BTC 736610;1403977202;assbot;Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33JK61K.txt ) 736611;1403977202;BingoBoingo;!b 3 736612;1403977228;BingoBoingo;Heysteve is trying his hand at the pimping business 736613;1403977239;mircea_popescu;now why would a girl that has no idea about btc nor any experience camwhoring 736614;1403977242;HeySteve;heh you could say so 736615;1403977248;mircea_popescu;want to participate in a btc giveaway for camwhores ? 736616;1403977259;HeySteve;oh she has experience 736617;1403977261;mircea_popescu;this is almost like forum ceos 736618;1403977268;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FCW3RB.txt ) 736619;1403977268;BingoBoingo;!b 5 736620;1403977286;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.02346995 = 0.9388 BTC [+] 736621;1403977299;mircea_popescu;HeySteve so then why's she shy ?! 736622;1403977322;*;BingoBoingo is growing high molecular weight polymers today! 736623;1403977377;HeySteve;well it's not her profession and she's worried about it impacting that 736624;1403977389;HeySteve;but pretty sure she'll get over it 736625;1403977593;mircea_popescu;this your gf we're talking here ? 736626;1403977610;HeySteve;nope 736627;1403977647;BingoBoingo;Is this another interview for a cryptocoinnews article? 736628;1403977680;HeySteve;ha it's more likely to appear on jezebel 736629;1403977706;HeySteve;which might work well for publicity actually. worked for tucker max anyway 736630;1403977714;BingoBoingo;At least the day's chemistry is going well. 736631;1403977714;Duffer1;MP will we have to wait and see what the article is about? 736632;1403977750;mircea_popescu;Duffer1 hour or so 736633;1403977772;mircea_popescu;HeySteve so i don't get it, jezebel chick petrified of slut shaming ? da fuck does she care, i'm not about to do it. 736634;1403977783;Duffer1;cool 736635;1403977823;HeySteve;mircea_popescu, no I mean some feminist publication might come after you at this rate. not so much for this but that fiverr thing... 736636;1403977898;mircea_popescu;o 736637;1403977922;mircea_popescu;!s feminist was born 736638;1403977923;assbot;1 results for 'feminist+was+born' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=feminist%2Bwas%2Bborn 736639;1403978095;mircea_popescu;;;later tell princessnell know any feminist publication that may wish to come after me ? 736640;1403978095;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736641;1403978174;BingoBoingo;Andreas again? 736642;1403978789;benkay;what are you growing today, BingoBoingo ? 736643;1403978811;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00082067 = 24.2918 BTC [+] 736644;1403978840;BingoBoingo;benkay: I'm reseasoning the cast iron 736645;1403978907;benkay;do go on - what's being grown? 736646;1403978961;thestringpuller;;;ticker 736647;1403978963;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.58, Best ask: 598.38, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 598.38, 24 hour volume: 6167.89007536, 24 hour low: 575.0, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 592.428694795 736648;1403979045;BingoBoingo;benkay: Well, I'm turning a bunch of oil into a uniform layer of polymer over the cast iron so I can fry shit without it sticking to the pans 736649;1403979171;[]bot;Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 91(Y):9(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.73721769 BTC. Current weight: 44,349. 736650;1403979209;HeySteve2;BingoBoingo, cast iron frying pans are great 736651;1403979228;BingoBoingo;Indeed, these were located a bit rusty, but that was corrected 736652;1403979277;HeySteve2;cool, I was convinced to get one by this - http://www.richsoil.com/cast-iron.jsp 736653;1403979278;assbot;How To: Cast Iron Skillet Non-Stick and Lasts a Lifetime 736654;1403979465;benkay;i've finally broken the girl of cooking carbs on my cast iron 736655;1403979637;BingoBoingo;Well some carbs only cook well there (the canonical example is cornbread) 736656;1403979740;mircea_popescu;!up Smilence 736657;1403979744;mircea_popescu;and now for the logs! 736658;1403979888;mircea_popescu;pankkake: http://camgirladventures.blogspot.com/2013/12/happy-new-year-and-late-marry-christmas.html I had no idea those things existed << dude if it's teaching pankkake new porns, any expense is well worth it. 736659;1403979889;assbot;Cam Girl Adventures: Happy new year and a late Marry Christmas! 736660;1403979927;benkay;BingoBoingo: really?! 736661;1403979930;benkay;fascinating. 736662;1403979963;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 << alternatively, why not rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted properly and adios. 736663;1403979964;assbot;Loper OS » Practical Blockchain Telegraphy. 736664;1403979968;mircea_popescu;benkay it's a fact. 736665;1403980009;BingoBoingo;benkay: You may apportion your thanks for that discovery to... Pretty much the entire south... 736666;1403980009;benkay;we all know how i cook, mi 736667;1403980012;benkay;mircea_popescu: 736668;1403980020;benkay;i have a cook 736669;1403980023;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform: if thorstein veblen was right - we'll be deluged with 'customers.' at least for a while. << you're too soon. we'll scam them later. 736670;1403980159;mircea_popescu;;;gettrust ninjashogun 736671;1403980159;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014 736672;1403980175;mircea_popescu;lmao -3 is not in any sense "the best feedback of anyone you could ask" 736673;1403980214;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.023395 = 0.5615 BTC [-] 736674;1403980229;mircea_popescu;in fact i wager a guess that 2/3 of the wot has a better feedback 736675;1403980276;mircea_popescu;http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-talk-to-an-ex.../ 736676;1403980278;assbot;How to talk to an ex... 736677;1403980281;mircea_popescu;"I could really do with a female collaborator to make this instructable more useful and make sure it is one sided..." 736678;1403980296;mircea_popescu;guy that has no ex writing guides about how to talk to the ex he never had. 736679;1403980307;mircea_popescu;oh interfuckwits. 736680;1403980341;FabianB;"rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted" <-- as cjdns has done 736681;1403980385;nubbins`;!s richsoil 736682;1403980386;assbot;0 results for 'richsoil' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=richsoil 736683;1403980387;mircea_popescu;FabianB prolly. i hear nothing but good things of that procject 736684;1403980389;*;nubbins` shrugs 736685;1403980413;nubbins`;heysteve is gone now 736686;1403980421;nubbins`;but that's the same web page that got me into cast iron :/ 736687;1403980442;BingoBoingo;;;later tell HeySteve I like how he describes surface tumors on the skillets. 736688;1403980443;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736689;1403980482;mircea_popescu;!up Ginux 736690;1403980570;BingoBoingo;Wow, all of ninjashogun's WoT ratings are from regulars here. 736691;1403980571;asciilifeform;'rewrite the tcp/ip stack so that all traffic is encrypted' << doesn't solve the problem described in the 'enforcement' article. 736692;1403980597;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform how not ?! 736693;1403980612;asciilifeform;channel still lives on a distinct physical box that belongs to someone 736694;1403980622;mircea_popescu;not practically, no. 736695;1403980678;asciilifeform;unless by 'encrypted' you also mean link saturation and some variant of 'onion route' (a la the claimed mechanics of tor) - same problem. 736696;1403980704;mircea_popescu;not really. how do you know what subset of gibberish is meaningful to whom ? 736697;1403980737;asciilifeform;if you want a 'closed' channel, then we can do that right now - gpg mailing list. 736698;1403980751;mircea_popescu;for instance. 736699;1403980751;nubbins`;BingoBoingo he was complaining in -otc earlier about not getting a fair shake 736700;1403980759;asciilifeform;but if you want something public (open to new participants without elaborate gymnastics) - rather different problem. 736701;1403980765;mircea_popescu;wait. 736702;1403980782;mircea_popescu;"without elaborate gymnastics" ? you go write the irc protocol for they who can't read or write 736703;1403980791;mircea_popescu;and i'll do something else til you're done. 736704;1403980798;asciilifeform;lol 736705;1403980817;mircea_popescu;literacy has barriers to entry. always has. always will. 736706;1403980829;mircea_popescu;experience shows them being low is counterproductive 736707;1403980849;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: Well, what -otc is largely concerned with and what he got his here feedback for don't overlap perfectly... Other than the general disdain people share for spamzors 736708;1403980858;nubbins`;nod :D 736709;1403980874;mircea_popescu;feedback is feedback neh ? 736710;1403980881;mircea_popescu;he never specified what kind 736711;1403980940;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/ 736712;1403981007;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66153 @ 0.00082022 = 54.26 BTC [-] {3} 736713;1403981209;mircea_popescu;"Facebook then analyzed the future postings of those users over the course of a week to see if people responded with increased positivity or negativity of their own, thus answering the question of whether emotional states can be transmitted across a social network. Result: They can!" 736714;1403981217;mircea_popescu;except, it only works on the herd. 736715;1403981221;kakobrekla;lol wtf is this http://i.imgur.com/wPT0H0M.jpg 736716;1403981240;mircea_popescu;basically, facebook scientists just scientifically proved facebook is dead : the herd has replaced the trend setters. 736717;1403981297;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/qKNAMNp.jpg 736718;1403981303;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla it went as high as 60 iirc 736719;1403981328;kakobrekla;i mean for the 'private offerings' 736720;1403981330;mircea_popescu;fluffypony frat party ? 736721;1403981338;fluffypony;I'm guessing so 736722;1403981344;fluffypony;looks awesome 736723;1403981347;kakobrekla;looks odd to me. 736724;1403981350;fluffypony;btw 736725;1403981351;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla o i thought the part circled in red is what you meant. well they had a few PTS iirc 736726;1403981357;fluffypony;I've been tweeting pics and shit 736727;1403981365;fluffypony;will put them all up in a blog post when I get a chance 736728;1403981514;mircea_popescu;*: asciilifeform nominates Yann Collet for 'flondor list' << and now thanks to search, we can even use this. 736729;1403981516;mircea_popescu;!s flondor list 736730;1403981517;assbot;0 results for 'flondor+list' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=flondor%2Blist 736731;1403981523;mircea_popescu;!s 'flondor list' 736732;1403981523;assbot;0 results for ''flondor+list'' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%27flondor%2Blist%27 736733;1403981527;kakobrekla;lel. 736734;1403981534;mircea_popescu;o how great technology works 736735;1403981544;fluffypony;https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/482863903089909760 736736;1403981545;assbot;Whilst most hotels fly the flag of whatever country they're in, Malla Castle flies a Bitcoin flag. http://t.co/ZsCQFwTt5C 736737;1403981560;mircea_popescu;bitcoin has a flag ? 736738;1403981569;fluffypony;:-P 736739;1403981617;asciilifeform;Yann Collet << not because he wrote the turd. (though it alone might suffice!) - because of what he said afterward. 736740;1403981640;fluffypony;aight bbl 736741;1403981660;asciilifeform;turn on the kitchen light, you can tell who is a cockroach - by the desperate scurrying. 736742;1403981786;mircea_popescu;heh 736743;1403982156;BingoBoingo;Oh, Serena Lost to Cornet again 736744;1403982162;mircea_popescu;https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bq2yaIMCYAA8SF0.jpg 736745;1403982272;BingoBoingo;My milking of line BTC books by betting against Serena when the odds are around 10 to one her favor continues to abuse them. 736746;1403982349;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16680 @ 0.00082125 = 13.6985 BTC [+] 736747;1403982552;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform http://fastcompression.blogspot.fr/2014/06/debunking-lz4-20-years-old-bug-myth.html << actually this seems persuasive 736748;1403982552;assbot;RealTime Data Compression: Debunking the LZ4 "20 years old bug" myth 736749;1403982565;mthreat;mircea_popescu: it looks like !s is double-url-encoding 736750;1403982566;mircea_popescu;a lz4 bug which depends on 16mb blocks on 32 bit seems dead in the water 736751;1403982575;mircea_popescu;mthreat don't you just love fencing errors ? 736752;1403982667;BingoBoingo;;;tslb 736753;1403982674;gribble;Time since last block: 7 minutes and 51 seconds 736754;1403982698;benkay;oh man i was trying to write code and then mircea_popescu dropped a blogbomb with a szabo link 736755;1403982726;mircea_popescu;hey, earlier i was trying to write an article and you kept zinging me 736756;1403982729;mircea_popescu;it's only fair 736757;1403982937;mircea_popescu;!up peter82 736758;1403982982;peter82;thx, i feel honored :) 736759;1403982996;mircea_popescu;lol so who're you ? 736760;1403983061;peter82;some random dude from germany who discovered trilema.com and klicked on "#bitcoin-assets on freenode" 736761;1403983076;peter82;i like your blog 736762;1403983081;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.02345995 = 1.4076 BTC [+] 736763;1403983094;mircea_popescu;cheers. 736764;1403983203;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 85 @ 0.02170717 = 1.8451 BTC [-] {8} 736765;1403983204;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.0106143 = 0.5201 BTC [-] {3} 736766;1403984240;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00082163 = 6.9387 BTC [+] 736767;1403984274;mircea_popescu;"Phone use in Saudia Arabia has a penetration rate of 170%, with an estimated average of 30% of individual income spent on mobile phone and Internet costs in 2014." 736768;1403984279;mircea_popescu;omg ? 736769;1403984362;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.02150003 = 2.15 BTC [-] {2} 736770;1403984396;benkay;sauce? 736771;1403984428;mircea_popescu;http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudis-spend-30-of-income-on-phone-internet-1.1345356 736772;1403984441;benkay;another factor in breaking the USG's power monopoly will be the cheaply made en-masse autonomous thingers capable of bringing down any bird or boat they field 736773;1403984483;benkay;these saudi phone users - is this the upper crust or the imported slaves? 736774;1403984512;mircea_popescu;no idea 736775;1403985094;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 122 @ 0.02105257 = 2.5684 BTC [-] {8} 736776;1403985521;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63050 @ 0.00082177 = 51.8126 BTC [+] {3} 736777;1403985521;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.02025167 = 1.2556 BTC [-] {2} 736778;1403985765;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0200094 = 0.6803 BTC [-] {3} 736779;1403986071;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.021 = 0.861 BTC [-] {2} 736780;1403987635;mircea_popescu;Farm laborer monthly pay, with meals = 400 asses ; Teacher's monthly pay, per boy = 800 asses ; Barber's service price, per client = 32 asses ; 1 kg of pork = 380 asses (1 lb = 170 asses) ; 1 kg of grapes = 32 asses (1 lb = 15 asses) 736781;1403987643;mircea_popescu;how much for an assbot i wonder. 736782;1403987861;mircea_popescu;(sauce http://io9.com/ancient-roman-coins-depict-sundry-sexual-acts-but-what-1277370698 ) 736783;1403987862;assbot;Ancient Roman coins depict sundry sexual acts, but what were they for? 736784;1403988397;mircea_popescu;;;later tell jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-2-bitcoin-difficulty-hash-target/ << this is a nice explanation, i bet useful for many people. 736785;1403988402;assbot;Part 2: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hash Target | Bitcoin News 736786;1403988402;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736787;1403988449;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00082168 = 13.9686 BTC [-] 736788;1403988466;bitstein;Tangentially related, when I was at Pompeii, I was told these were the signs to point travelers in the direction of the brothels: https://i.imgur.com/JiWHKeX.jpg 736789;1403988939;mircea_popescu;lol makes sense 736790;1403989105;bitstein;Unfortunately we didn't have time to visit the brothels, which is the most popular part of Pompeii. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum 736791;1403989105;assbot;Erotic art in Pompeii and Herculaneum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 736792;1403989120;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.19310031 = 2.1241 BTC [-] {3} 736793;1403989182;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.0223998 = 0.9408 BTC [+] {2} 736794;1403989242;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1549 @ 0.001614 = 2.5001 BTC [+] 736795;1403989381;benkay;bitstein: are they still operational? 736796;1403989512;bitstein;Prostitution in Pompeii has moved to underground operations ever since Vesuvius erupted. 736797;1403989525;benkay;hahaha 736798;1403989541;benkay;i mean i have no idea man - ancient disaster prostitution tourism? 736799;1403989546;benkay;not infeasible. 736800;1403989597;bitstein;Well, it's all just ruins now. The brothels are just full of fat American tourists. 736801;1403989645;bitstein;Naples is close by. You can get all the illicit goods and services you need there. 736802;1403989672;bitstein;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtdYTuRKto 736803;1403989673;assbot;Gomorrah (2008) - Official Trailer - YouTube 736804;1403989694;kakobrekla;http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130707.png 736805;1403989709;mircea_popescu;lol good one 736806;1403989731;mircea_popescu; i mean i have no idea man - ancient disaster prostitution tourism? << a certain party tends to take girls for nude shots in various cemeteries. 736807;1403990035;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26255 @ 0.00082168 = 21.5732 BTC [-] 736808;1403991714;mircea_popescu;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlXjIg4fH74 736809;1403991714;assbot;Who's on Stage? - YouTube 736810;1403991803;BingoBoingo;!t h AM1 736811;1403991804;assbot;[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.19310030 / 0.19453341 / 0.20199999 (25 shares, 4.86333524 BTC), 7D: 0.18500000 / 0.19842068 / 0.23100000 (852 shares, 169.05442337 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.22668297 / 0.45390844 (5514 shares, 1249.92991536 BTC) 736812;1403991893;hanbot;http://www.writerscafe.org/mirceapopescu44 sounds like a fun confusion target :D 736813;1403991894;assbot;Mircea Popescu | WritersCafe.org | The Online Writing Community 736814;1403991902;benkay;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airT-m9LcoY 736815;1403991902;assbot;Abbot and Costello - Who's on First - YouTube 736816;1403991955;hanbot;"about me : Aspiring writer. Atheist jerk deemed arrogant by the second rate minds of society. I write poetry, fantasy pieces, critical essays and I've recently tried my hand at play writing. I play the guitar and watch pro wrestling. Student of Letters and Arts." 736817;1403991997;mircea_popescu;o boy. 736818;1403992029;mircea_popescu;"Im drunk tonight The smell of death Keeps haunting my world The scent Of scotch In dreary passion past us whirled." 736819;1403992046;mircea_popescu;maybe i should hire this guy to post on the forum. 736820;1403992197;mircea_popescu;benkay precisely. 736821;1403992231;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.022299 = 0.9589 BTC [-] 736822;1403992275;benkay;original's better. 736823;1403992344;mircea_popescu;that's like a law of thermodynamics. 736824;1403992347;BingoBoingo;Right, but the forum so it earned the shittier 736825;1403992387;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo that didn't parse 736826;1403992446;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Well, the forum is shittier than IRC, ergo the forum gets the second rate Mircea... seeing as they chased hanbot off. 736827;1403992455;mircea_popescu;lol 736828;1403992457;mircea_popescu;ic 736829;1403992549;BingoBoingo;Addressed to benkay's "original's better." but... The fingers-brain connection is only so robust operating at speed 736830;1403992598;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo he was talking of the little girl. 736831;1403992607;BingoBoingo;Ah 736832;1403992610;mircea_popescu;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVn_2gSH6hE 736833;1403992610;assbot;Full Abbott and Costello EpisodeThe Dentist's Office - YouTube 736834;1403992719;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00082125 = 25.2124 BTC [-] {3} 736835;1403992843;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 92(Y):8(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.73721769 BTC. Current weight: 44,268. 736836;1403992976;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 736837;1403992979;gribble;Current Blocks: 308369 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 78 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 9 hours, 51 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16802072525.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.80574 736838;1403993207;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.02 = 0.74 BTC [-] {3} 736839;1403993459;benkay;i was? 736840;1403993464;benkay;which little girl 736841;1403993493;dignork;https://twitter.com/rabite/status/482979706460180480 << somebody should tell him about bitbet 736842;1403993494;assbot;To those saying LZ4 bug aint exploitable: put money on it. Ive got 1 BTC on product exploits within 1wk. Takers? http://t.co/pdTal9bYNR 736843;1403994061;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21998 @ 0.00082144 = 18.07 BTC [+] 736844;1403994610;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00082305 = 4.1976 BTC [+] 736845;1403994627;benkay;https://adamcaudill.com/2014/06/27/the-sinking-ship-of-email-security/ 736846;1403994627;assbot;The Sinking Ship of E-Mail Security - Adam Caudill 736847;1403994629;benkay;We need to be discussing how to eliminate email, not new ways to glue partial solutions on to it. STARTTLS isn’t the answer, PGP isn’t the answer, S/MIME isn’t the answer - an entirely new protocol is. 736848;1403994636;benkay;(quote) 736849;1403994639;benkay;really? pgp isn't the answer? nooz to me. 736850;1403994668;benkay;http://www.vox.com/2014/6/26/5837638/the-ipo-is-dying-marc-andreessen-explains-why 736851;1403994669;assbot;The IPO is dying. Marc Andreessen explains why. - Vox 736852;1403994672;benkay;the sarbox claims are interesting 736853;1403995891;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00082142 = 18.1945 BTC [-] {3} 736854;1403996597;benkay;http://toxoplasm.org/post/90105779369/i-was-shooting-heroin-and-reading-the 736855;1403996598;assbot;toxoplasm, I was shooting heroin and reading The... 736856;1403996668;benkay;http://38.media.tumblr.com/50a7e4712b4f1db039bf4b52abb110d1/tumblr_n7w2nwNV9F1qzvg5fo2_1280.jpg 736857;1403996697;benkay;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Tintinnabulum_Pompeii_MAN_Napoli_Inv27839.jpg/640px-Tintinnabulum_Pompeii_MAN_Napoli_Inv27839.jpg 736858;1403996867;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-] 736859;1403997153;BingoBoingo;lol 'Subway Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag! I yelled. 736860;1403997153;BingoBoingo;Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.' 736861;1403997352;thestringpuller;%diff 736862;1403997355;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 341705.61 in 1536 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -33.20 736863;1403997356;thestringpuller;people still pool hopping? 736864;1403997359;thestringpuller;Love it 736865;1403997459;BingoBoingo;Looks like atc diff will be dropping twice in a row 736866;1403997532;thestringpuller;the ATC market depth is growing too... 736867;1403997573;BingoBoingo;I'll decline to comment 736868;1403997621;thestringpuller;it still looks like lots of pool hopping from big entities tho 736869;1403997642;thestringpuller;like you'll see 2 terahashes hit a coin for a few days then drop and so on but I guess this has already been discussed to death 736870;1403997721;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32116 @ 0.0008202 = 26.3415 BTC [-] {2} 736871;1403997739;thestringpuller;!mpif 736872;1403997740;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 736873;1403997743;thestringpuller;!ticker m f.mpif 736874;1403997744;assbot;[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0002151 / 0.0002159 / 0.00023849 (5054 shares, 1.09 BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021604 / 0.00023849 (22205 shares, 4.80 BTC) 736875;1403997917;thestringpuller;;;diff 736876;1403997918;gribble;1.346258011452534E10 736877;1403997922;thestringpuller;;;estimate 736878;1403997923;gribble;Next difficulty estimate | 16806622431.4 based on data since last change | 17627747376.5 based on data for last three days 736879;1403997948;BingoBoingo;%t 736880;1403997949;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 4k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 736881;1403997976;BingoBoingo;I'm just surprised when the poolhoppers came to ATC this time that they didn't stay long... 736882;1403998219;BingoBoingo;%0b 736883;1403998225;BingoBoingo;%ob 736884;1403998226;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 965k@199 750k@175 216k@160 736885;1403998897;BingoBoingo;http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/28/2030254/secret-of-the-banjos-unique-sound-discovered-by-nobel-prize-winning-physicist 736886;1403998898;assbot;Secret of the Banjo's Unique Sound Discovered By Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist - Slashdot 736887;1403999297;BingoBoingo;trabangini http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/26/autos/elio-motors/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 736888;1403999298;assbot;Elio Motors promises $6,800 car - Jun. 26, 2014 736889;1403999312;mircea_popescu; https://twitter.com/rabite/status/482979706460180480 << somebody should tell him about bitbet << that;s okay, he doesn't need to read 736890;1403999313;assbot;To those saying LZ4 bug aint exploitable: put money on it. Ive got 1 BTC on product exploits within 1wk. Takers? http://t.co/pdTal9bYNR 736891;1403999315;mircea_popescu;he just writes. 736892;1403999318;mircea_popescu;!up tjader 736893;1403999413;mircea_popescu; really? pgp isn't the answer? nooz to me. << well so let "we" eliminate email lol. 736894;1403999435;mircea_popescu; The IPO is dying. Marc Andreessen explains why. - Vox summary : "that asshole mp killed it" 736895;1403999624;Duffer1;"we deserved it" 736896;1403999646;thestringpuller;!search 736897;1403999646;assbot;Need a search term. 736898;1403999655;thestringpuller;!search The IPO is dying 736899;1403999655;assbot;0 results for 'The+IPO+is+dying' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=The%2BIPO%2Bis%2Bdying 736900;1403999725;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo you know, dacia has been making a 5k euro car for years now 736901;1403999734;mircea_popescu;heck, davout prolly bought one 736902;1403999797;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Yeah, that's been mentioned here before. I just wonder what kind of shitfits will happen here the resistance Tesla see to selling a $60,000 vehicle 736903;1403999832;thestringpuller;i was actually going to purchase a tesla 736904;1404000039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00082018 = 16.0755 BTC [-] 736905;1404000631;kakobrekla;i will! 736906;1404000656;kakobrekla;!up nick1234abcd_ 736907;1404000658;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00082157 = 8.4622 BTC [+] 736908;1404000674;kakobrekla;!up elgrecoFL 736909;1404000684;mircea_popescu;!up pigeons 736910;1404000815;mircea_popescu;pankkake you know, i imagine the fact that the btc for tits article you put into reddit went exactly nowhere is pretty indicative of reddit's success at its chosen task i reckon. 736911;1404000852;thestringpuller;need to put that around campuses 736912;1404000856;mircea_popescu;there's probably 100 chicks looking for ways to make money with their tits on girlsbitcoin thing, there's maybe 100 bux each could make. a total of one met hers. 99% failure 736913;1404001024;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.02079684 = 0.5823 BTC [-] {2} 736914;1404001268;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18197 @ 0.00082157 = 14.9501 BTC [+] 736915;1404001453;kakobrekla;!up tris 736916;1404002396;benkay;https://libertyvps.net/ << anyone tried 'em? 736917;1404002396;assbot;Offshore and Anonymous Bitcoin VPS Hosting by LibertyVPS 736918;1404002557;BingoBoingo;benkay: They way they are branded, one has to assume honeypot 736919;1404002583;BingoBoingo;Anonymous and Coinbase payments really don't go together 736920;1404002859;benkay;a) anonymity's a red herring b) if they're using CB to recv btc, who cares? 736921;1404003003;BingoBoingo;It's like the people in the commercials on talk radio extoling the virtues of gold and silver because they want to make fiat. Their site screams exactly that kind of hypocrisy. 736922;1404003220;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00082217 = 13.4836 BTC [+] {2} 736923;1404003564;mircea_popescu;i care. i wouldn't buy shit with coinbase. 736924;1404003686;BingoBoingo;And this is from the guy shorting BitPay, whose main selling point is not being CoinBase 736925;1404003704;mircea_popescu;is that toxoplasm thing earlier supposed to be directly funny or just some sort of ultra-ellaborate meta-joke at the idiocy of us collegiate libertards struggling mightily with strawmen ? 736926;1404003789;BingoBoingo;It's another example of the broken US sense of humor where obscure Reference ===== Joke, because CBS killed culture or some shit 736927;1404003822;mircea_popescu;sucks to like cocktails in that country, i guess 736928;1404004034;mircea_popescu;"I wanted to coldcock the guy." that line was obviously meant to be "i wanted to coldcock the cocksucker" 736929;1404004057;BingoBoingo;Eh, everything is broken here. I'm just wondering if the person who buys Iowa is going to do it for the soil or the uranium. 736930;1404004061;mircea_popescu;being clueless is one thing, but being impotent... why even bother. 736931;1404004291;mircea_popescu;"You might say that's a good idea, shareholders should be treated equally. The problem is the shareholder base itself has changed dramatically. You've had a dramatic rise in hedge funds. Very short-term trading and dramatic rise in short-selling [investors betting that a stock's price will fall]. If you're a public company, you become the shuttlecock between warring longs and shorts. They bat your stock around like it' 736932;1404004292;mircea_popescu;s a chew toy." 736933;1404004298;mircea_popescu;eh dude just come out and say it already. 736934;1404004309;mircea_popescu;all this "look ma i got no balls" bullshit. 736935;1404004331;mircea_popescu;how do you expect to compete with me ? you're fucking old. what is this, begging for a burial ? 736936;1404004460;mircea_popescu;http://robertmcgrath.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/popescu-gives-high-class-narrative-of-why-dogecoin-is-a-scam/ << at least this scmuck with nothing to say understands who he should be saying it at (had he something to say). so far, andreesseen 0, anon schmuck with a blog 1. 736937;1404004461;assbot;Popescu Gives High Class Narrative of “Why Dogecoin is a scam” | Robert McGrath's Blog 736938;1404004551;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pApSjYmy--/sws8q2wvwco1nulxklx1.gif 736939;1404004604;mircea_popescu;yum 736940;1404004623;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9813 @ 0.00082372 = 8.0832 BTC [+] 736941;1404004945;benkay;wow holy crap 736942;1404004982;benkay;and isn't it 'cold cock'? 736943;1404005007;mircea_popescu;usually. 736944;1404005020;mircea_popescu;spelling is racist nowadays, so whatevs. 736945;1404005145;BingoBoingo;benkay: Lisp (sort of, hiding somewhere) courtesy of MP's linked schmuck with a blog https://www.ideals.illinois.edu/bitstream/handle/2142/11057/Semantic%20Infrastructure%20for%20a%20Ubiquitous%20Computing%20Environment.pdf?sequence=2 736946;1404005212;mircea_popescu;BingoBoingo guy's in the team of "let's see if we can actually have a measurable impact on teh hated Bitcoin by lending our most valuable social-sciences-and-pointless-studies wisdom to dogecoin" 736947;1404005284;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: Oh, I'm reading such things http://robertmcgrath.wordpress.com/the-next-big-thing/bitcoin-vs-dogecoin-a-shallow-semantic-look/ << Guy studies CS, ends up attemtping semiotics 736948;1404005285;assbot;Bitcoin vs. Dogecoin: a Shallow Semantic Look | Robert McGrath's Blog 736949;1404005302;mircea_popescu;i suppose the results should be informative, for normally socialised individuals. we're dealing with idiots coming out of urbana however, so he's prolly still in denial about just how utterly he got humiliated over the past six months 736950;1404005365;mircea_popescu;but anyway, to make the point plain : the real world, practical value of a libertard, such as a liberal with a phd from urbana & his firends, is just about epsilon. 736951;1404005376;BingoBoingo;Urbana has to have one of the highest per captia populations of aspies in the world 736952;1404005393;mircea_popescu;one of my esl slavergirls can influence the future more than the entire troop of 'em. 736953;1404005565;BingoBoingo;slavegirl > Urbana Aspie > Andresseeeeeeeeen 736954;1404005598;mircea_popescu;funny how that works huh. 736955;1404005649;BingoBoingo;Not really. 736956;1404005667;BingoBoingo;It's just learning at work 736957;1404005691;mircea_popescu;lol 736958;1404005712;mircea_popescu;http://i.imgur.com/D5fZrFj.png 736959;1404005762;BingoBoingo;Slavegirl is made to develop skills and competence. Urbana Apsie fumbles until he gets paper then pretends to be french. Andreeseeeessnsnesnsnensnes made netscape, got money, and spend the time after that accindentlying himself. 736960;1404005786;mircea_popescu;it's a theory. 736961;1404005812;mircea_popescu;so basically the progression is an approximation of "how many lashes" 736962;1404005905;BingoBoingo;Right. Urbana's dissertation is '05 so likely that is the last time he felt anything close to a lash. Anndruserrren Has well... 736963;1404005915;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust ninjashogun 736964;1404005916;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user ninjashogun: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014 736965;1404006024;BingoBoingo;http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XATGvcMa--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/19e7fo4pjz710gif.gif 736966;1404006025;mircea_popescu;"They spoke about the other students in Nerzhin's class, who had graduated on the day the war started. The most gifted had been killed or got shell-shocked - they were the ones who always rushed into action, without a thought for their own skins. Those of no promise were now either completing their post-graduate work or teaching in universities and institutes." 736967;1404006053;mircea_popescu;history repeating itself as it were. 736968;1404007185;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00082003 = 10.0864 BTC [-] {3} 736969;1404007307;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00082392 = 19.5269 BTC [+] {2} 736970;1404007458;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 736971;1404007460;gribble;Current Blocks: 308395 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 52 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 49 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16798041980.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.7758 736972;1404007734;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00082394 = 2.2246 BTC [+] 736973;1404007838;kakobrekla;high quality china pcb http://shrani.si/f/2M/Fg/1V99sDWB/img9247.jpg 736974;1404007887;mircea_popescu;smartphone ? 736975;1404007907;kakobrekla;does it really look like a phone? 736976;1404008113;mircea_popescu;you know, fixed phone. 736977;1404008700;mircea_popescu;;;later tell asciilifeform get a load of this : google knows of a sergey and an andrey prokofyev. no alexander. 736978;1404008701;gribble;The operation succeeded. 736979;1404010906;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18358 @ 0.00082405 = 15.1279 BTC [+] {3} 736980;1404011516;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00082586 = 11.1078 BTC [+] {2} 736981;1404011699;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.0008264 = 11.3217 BTC [+] 736982;1404013651;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19710 @ 0.00082659 = 16.2921 BTC [+] {2} 736983;1404013956;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.02079799 = 1.0399 BTC [+] 736984;1404014904;mircea_popescu;http://cointelegraph.com/news/111936/fderp-short-only-hedge-fund-lets-you-bet-against-bitcoin-startups- 736985;1404014904;assbot;F.DERP Short-Only Hedge Fund Lets You Bet Against Bitcoin Startups 736986;1404014910;mircea_popescu;who's cointelegraph again ? 736987;1404014974;benkay;http://cointelegraph.com/authors/ 736988;1404014974;assbot;CoinTelegraph - Bitcoin news, analysis and review 736989;1404014976;benkay;nobody i recognize 736990;1404014984;benkay;doesn't mean diddly, tho 736991;1404014993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.02079799 = 1.2479 BTC [+] 736992;1404015237;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 72 @ 0.02079799 = 1.4975 BTC [+] 736993;1404015298;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.020798 = 0.5823 BTC [+] 736994;1404015531;benkay;;;ticker 736995;1404015532;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 600.0, Best ask: 601.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 601.0, 24 hour volume: 3015.04794189, 24 hour low: 589.56, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 596.992167635 736996;1404015593;benkay;https://medium.com/mattermark-daily/mattermark-has-raised-2m-in-our-second-seed-round-e93b20dc59b0 736997;1404015594;assbot;Mattermark Has Raised $2M in Our Second Seed Round Mattermark Daily Medium 736998;1404015605;benkay;YOU DON'T GET A SECOND FUCKING SEED ROUnD 736999;1404015908;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00082369 = 10.7903 BTC [-] {2} 737000;1404016823;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 92 @ 0.020798 = 1.9134 BTC [+] 737001;1404016959;mod6;%d 737002;1404016960;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 339673.65 in 1519 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -33.59 737003;1404017617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00082535 = 10.9772 BTC [+] 737004;1404017677;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 61 @ 0.01550983 = 0.9461 BTC [-] {3} 737005;1404018104;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 69 @ 0.015 = 1.035 BTC [-] {2} 737006;1404018608;mircea_popescu; YOU DON'T GET A SECOND FUCKING SEED ROUnD << second virginity auction! 737007;1404018651;mircea_popescu;how the fuck does atc diff work, afaik it was 400k and dropping 33% prev period now 500k dropping 33% ?! 737008;1404019253;mircea_popescu;$conference 737009;1404019253;empyex;mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 9 months and 19 days. Estimated cost today: 2.20791168 BTC 737010;1404019270;mircea_popescu;FabianB add an url ? 737011;1404019284;mircea_popescu;%pool 737012;1404019286;atcbot;[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.66 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 64.14 GH/s 737013;1404019307;mircea_popescu;%lb 737014;1404019308;atcbot;[ATC Last Block] Height: 36787 Time: 2014-06-29T05:13:24Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 511511.43407171 Hash: 0000000000001bedd9294b0eb5955c5922d1bfbc9b7c2e8065e547489680f283 Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 485 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1 737015;1404020361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00082668 = 17.0709 BTC [+] 737016;1404021033;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00082668 = 12.4415 BTC [+] 737017;1404021093;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00082632 = 10.8248 BTC [-] {2} 737018;1404022191;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00082606 = 14.1256 BTC [-] {2} 737019;1404022314;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00082603 = 3.6585 BTC [-] 737020;1404023350;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00082191 = 4.4383 BTC [-] 737021;1404024260;punkman;morning 737022;1404024265;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 47 @ 0.03847462 = 1.8083 BTC [-] 737023;1404024875;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 47 @ 0.02438999 = 1.1463 BTC [+] 737024;1404025424;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27155 @ 0.00082171 = 22.3135 BTC [-] {2} 737025;1404026203;[]bot;Bet created: "CEX.io GHS price to drop below 0.001 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/973/ 737026;1404026217;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 931 @ 0.00082151 = 0.7648 BTC [-] 737027;1404026888;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00082048 = 2.6255 BTC [-] 737028;1404026949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.021 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2} 737029;1404027071;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00082062 = 11.2835 BTC [+] {2} 737030;1404027072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.02105 = 0.842 BTC [+] 737031;1404027498;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.02100039 = 0.525 BTC [-] {3} 737032;1404027620;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00082258 = 5.4578 BTC [+] 737033;1404027925;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 224 @ 0.00229314 = 0.5137 BTC [+] 737034;1404027966;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 737035;1404027968;gribble;Current Blocks: 308444 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 3 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 minutes and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16855178418.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.20021 737036;1404029938;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.02313056 = 0.5783 BTC [+] {5} 737037;1404030033;fluffypony;benkay:https://libertyvps.net/ << anyone tried 'em? <- I have a Windows VPS with them that I use to check if stuff compiles on Windows, seems fine 737038;1404030426;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19083355 = 0.5725 BTC [-] {3} 737039;1404030914;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02439 = 0.6829 BTC [+] 737040;1404031402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00082535 = 4.9108 BTC [+] 737041;1404031671;punkman;fluffypony: how 737042;1404031690;punkman;how's the perpetual bitcoin supernode conference 737043;1404031721;fluffypony;punkman: pretty relaxed, I've been tweeting pics when I remember to 737044;1404031768;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22686 @ 0.00082344 = 18.6806 BTC [-] {3} 737045;1404031854;punkman;seems likie you are not flufflypony on twitter 737046;1404031953;fluffypony;oh 737047;1404031956;fluffypony;fluffyponyza 737048;1404031969;fluffypony;https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/with_replies 737049;1404031971;assbot;Ricky Riccardo (fluffyponyza) auf Twitter 737050;1404032022;fluffypony;we did have two GPG key signing sessions yesterday, which was fun 737051;1404032256;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.02499999 = 0.9 BTC [+] {2} 737052;1404032866;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.0008204 = 17.1053 BTC [-] 737053;1404033049;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0008189 = 13.6756 BTC [-] {3} 737054;1404033172;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1754 @ 0.00070015 = 1.2281 BTC [-] {3} 737055;1404033537;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 114 @ 0.01088438 = 1.2408 BTC [-] {13} 737056;1404033964;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.02850509 = 0.5416 BTC [+] 737057;1404033965;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-] 737058;1404034025;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00081727 = 13.3215 BTC [-] {2} 737059;1404034513;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0285051 = 0.5701 BTC [+] 737060;1404034574;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.02947909 = 0.9433 BTC [+] {2} 737061;1404034635;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00082062 = 4.4313 BTC [+] 737062;1404035306;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 107 @ 0.03365885 = 3.6015 BTC [+] {11} 737063;1404035855;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.03984999 = 0.7571 BTC [+] {5} 737064;1404036526;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00082402 = 2.0543 BTC [+] 737065;1404036831;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00082698 = 13.2317 BTC [+] {3} 737066;1404037197;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.02467401 = 1.2337 BTC [+] {7} 737067;1404037319;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 275 @ 0.03965753 = 10.9058 BTC [-] {7} 737068;1404037906;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/D9ZbFNF.jpg 737069;1404038112;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00082675 = 22.4463 BTC [-] 737070;1404038295;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-] 737071;1404038600;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00082706 = 11.827 BTC [+] 737072;1404038967;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 79 @ 0.0129621 = 1.024 BTC [+] {5} 737073;1404039637;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10441 @ 0.00082706 = 8.6353 BTC [+] 737074;1404039759;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.0240117 = 0.7204 BTC [+] {4} 737075;1404039942;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 2249 @ 0.00070023 = 1.5748 BTC [-] {2} 737076;1404039943;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.02493399 = 2.4934 BTC [+] {4} 737077;1404040267;BingoBoingo;%t 737078;1404040268;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 35k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 737079;1404040291;BingoBoingo;%ob 737080;1404040292;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160 737081;1404040486;BingoBoingo;https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=666181.0 737082;1404040487;assbot;Help publishing a book - The Tale of Dank | Bitcointa.lk 737083;1404041162;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22428 @ 0.00082714 = 18.5511 BTC [+] {2} 737084;1404041785;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 737085;1404041786;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.33, Best ask: 593.14, Bid-ask spread: 0.81000, Last trade: 593.14, 24 hour volume: 2885.22964668, 24 hour low: 589.56, 24 hour high: 604.21, 24 hour vwap: 596.85155144 737086;1404042199;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 73 @ 0.024999 = 1.8249 BTC [+] 737087;1404042260;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 25 @ 0.03847462 = 0.9619 BTC [-] 737088;1404042443;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-] 737089;1404042566;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04 = 0.56 BTC [+] 737090;1404042806;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 737091;1404042808;gribble;Current Blocks: 308468 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1995 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16432432195.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.29527 737092;1404042848;BingoBoingo;OMG What happened????? 737093;1404042867;BingoBoingo;Oh.... Fuck 737094;1404042957;punkman;22 billion by bastille day? 737095;1404042998;BingoBoingo;;;google site:bitbet.us 21 Billion 737096;1404042998;gribble;BitBet - Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014 :: 4.03 B (84 ...: ; BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes ...: ; BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June: 737097;1404043113;BingoBoingo;Well... It will be a while before I bet against difficulty on BTC 737098;1404043175;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04 = 0.64 BTC [+] 737099;1404043242;pankkake;difficulty going down! this is the end of bitcoin! (also http://bitbet.us/bet/871/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK) 737100;1404043242;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (54%) on Yes, 1.11 B (46%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 85`509 (100`000 to 1) 737101;1404043357;fluffypony;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWlAgPJdHdA 737102;1404043358;assbot;Trevor Noah - UNICEF Spoof - WROARF Public Service Announcement - YouTube 737103;1404044151;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47550 @ 0.00082723 = 39.3348 BTC [+] {2} 737104;1404044973;BingoBoingo;!up navhul-lacsup 737105;1404045005;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.193 = 4.825 BTC [-] 737106;1404045391;BingoBoingo;!up deizel 737107;1404045556;BingoBoingo;https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/482951689381904384 737108;1404045557;assbot;Results of our US Marshals bitcoin syndicate:Bidders - 42 Bids received - 186 BTC quantity bid - 48,013Winners notifed by USMS on Mon 737109;1404045980;BingoBoingo;!up Ignatius-otc 737110;1404045981;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00082758 = 30.7446 BTC [+] {3} 737111;1404046286;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26108 @ 0.00082592 = 21.5631 BTC [-] {2} 737112;1404046298;BingoBoingo;Anyone interested in selling some ATC over the counter so I can try mike_c's War of Life? 737113;1404046825;BingoBoingo;%t 737114;1404046826;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 238 24h-Vol: 88k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222 737115;1404047477;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 75(Y):25(N) by coin, 71(Y):29(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.90421879 BTC. Current weight: 34,700. 737116;1404047553;cazalla;BingoBoingo: how many are you after 737117;1404047592;punkman;%ticker 737118;1404047593;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 238 24h-Vol: 88k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222 737119;1404047613;punkman;;;view 20898 737120;1404047614;BingoBoingo;cazalla: roughly 25k, enough to make WoL interesting. 737121;1404047615;gribble;#20898 Thu Jun 26 13:35:24 2014 punkman BUY 10000.0 ATC @ 0.02 BTC (None) 737122;1404047635;cazalla;only 3k here :\ 737123;1404048482;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12806 @ 0.00082592 = 10.5767 BTC [-] 737124;1404048741;BingoBoingo;;;bc,stats 737125;1404048744;gribble;Current Blocks: 308474 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1989 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, 10 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 14563775812.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.40602 737126;1404048787;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.03501 = 0.6652 BTC [-] {2} 737127;1404049030;punkman;^ miners starting to catch fire? 737128;1404049092;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 64 @ 0.03501 = 2.2406 BTC [-] 737129;1404049397;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.03501 = 1.7155 BTC [-] 737130;1404049458;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03501003 = 0.5252 BTC [+] {2} 737131;1404049885;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00082477 = 12.1654 BTC [-] {2} 737132;1404050073;ThickAsThieves;Estimated Next Difficulty: 20,727,327,919 (+23.24%) 737133;1404050255;chetty;BingoBoingo: Anyone interested in selling some ATC over the counter so I can try mike_c's War of Life?//good idea but I am clueless on atc, any ideas when btc will be working there? 737134;1404050370;BingoBoingo;No idea 737135;1404050461;ThickAsThieves;BingoBoingo is just trying to squeeze back into the ATC game since his trading didnt work out 737136;1404050479;BingoBoingo;ThickAsThieves: Statement comes out soon. 737137;1404050489;ThickAsThieves;;) 737138;1404050502;BingoBoingo;Imma just trying not to mix personal and business 737139;1404050835;thestringpuller;;;bc,stats 737140;1404050838;gribble;Current Blocks: 308474 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1989 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 14563775812.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.40602 737141;1404050965;ThickAsThieves;nanotube should just use whatever formula bitcoinwisdom uses for mining diff, seems to work much better 737142;1404051289;FabianB;isn't it a good thing there are different competing formulas for forecasts? 737143;1404051560;thestringpuller;"Cry more pls. I think if we all cry and make a little bit more threads ghash will finally respect us and stop making huge profits. Thanks OP for changing the world like you do we need more threads and people like this. op4prez" << Reddit isn't all redditards... 737144;1404051776;FabianB;;;tslb 737145;1404051786;gribble;Time since last block: 58 minutes and 15 seconds 737146;1404051801;punkman;tblb 3600 737147;1404051810;punkman;;;tblb 3600 737148;1404051811;gribble;The expected time between blocks taking 1 hour and 0 seconds to generate is 3 days, 14 hours, 40 minutes, and 47 seconds 737149;1404051826;punkman;I wonder how accurate that is 737150;1404052185;nubbins`;found the largest bottle of cyanoacrylate i've ever come across in a hardware store today 737151;1404052190;nubbins`;a whopping 20mL 737152;1404052386;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00082449 = 8.822 BTC [-] 737153;1404052958;ThickAsThieves;<+FabianB> isn't it a good thing there are different competing formulas for forecasts? /// Well, the estimated next diff feature is meant to be useful (as accurate as possible), not "competitive". 737154;1404052967;thestringpuller;nubbins`: any info you can give me on giant cutouts? 737155;1404052977;thestringpuller;well not giant just you know the movie poster things 737156;1404052983;thestringpuller;movie stands thingies 737157;1404052985;nubbins`;sorry, no idea 737158;1404052985;ThickAsThieves;thestringpuller, ask your local sign shop 737159;1404053007;thestringpuller;they all SUCK 737160;1404053010;thestringpuller;i trust nubbins 737161;1404053011;thestringpuller;:P 737162;1404053022;ThickAsThieves;word 737163;1404053033;thestringpuller;new motto is if you want something done right, pay #b-a to do it :P 737164;1404053713;mircea_popescu;;;ticker 737165;1404053715;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 593.39, Best ask: 594.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.59000, Last trade: 594.99, 24 hour volume: 1640.59739701, 24 hour low: 589.56, 24 hour high: 601.79, 24 hour vwap: 595.028365635 737166;1404053729;mircea_popescu;o dude look how that usg auction destroyued the price o noes. 737167;1404053736;mircea_popescu;all the experts were right!!1 737168;1404053736;FabianB;thestringpuller: sure, but an estimation can't be 100% correct, so as with the weather forecast it's nice to have competing estimators 737169;1404053745;FabianB;ThickAsThieves i mean 737170;1404053772;mthreat;but you need an estimator to estimate which estimator will be correct 737171;1404053779;FabianB;ThickAsThieves: not saying gribble's is far off sometimes 737172;1404053808;mircea_popescu;mthreat yeah but it's safer to play like you're THAT metaestimator 737173;1404053812;mircea_popescu;than to play the game straight 737174;1404053935;thestringpuller;FabianB: I was referring to having a sign printed by nubbins lololol 737175;1404053953;mircea_popescu;lmao dank made into a book ? as fate has it i unloaded a bunch of movie dvds a chick made for me cca 2010. they'd been waiting ever since. 737176;1404053959;FabianB;thestringpuller: wrong tab complete, should've been ThickAsThieves 737177;1404053971;thestringpuller;yea just realized that lol 737178;1404053977;mircea_popescu;i tried to watch cashback (2006) and chaos theory (2007) 737179;1404054023;mircea_popescu;they basically are the same shit : half training video for fucktarded western kids with tons of delusions and no skills, half narratives of the incredibly boring minutia of the life of western kids iwth no skills and tons of delusion. 737180;1404054034;mircea_popescu;so basically i've seen the tale of dank. twice. 737181;1404054036;mircea_popescu;it stank. 737182;1404054082;mircea_popescu;where do they get all these girlies that can't act remains a mystery tho. it can't be reddit. 737183;1404054114;punkman;LA's full of them, is it not 737184;1404054154;mircea_popescu;i've never been to la. 737185;1404054159;mircea_popescu;i thought it was mostly black guys. 737186;1404054197;thestringpuller;^-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 737187;1404054208;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu hanging out in compton oh God I would pay for that photograph 737188;1404054215;thestringpuller;group photo with the cryps! 737189;1404054235;mircea_popescu;The racial makeup of the area was 39.0% White Non-Hispanic, 16.1% White-Hispanic, 10.4% Asian, 7.6% African American, 0.9% Native American, 21.0% from other races. 737190;1404054258;mircea_popescu;i guess 40% is still a thing. out of 15 mn or w/e it was... yeah they can probably keep making these shitty flicks forever. 737191;1404054277;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller if i were in la where else do you figure i'd be hanging out ? 737192;1404054324;thestringpuller;Beverly Hills getting fellatio from hollywood actresses? 737193;1404054326;mthreat;here's LA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5LzCOc98E 737194;1404054326;assbot;Randy Newman- I Iove L.A. - YouTube 737195;1404054404;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller notrly. 737196;1404054466;mircea_popescu;mthreat ahahaha what is THAT 737197;1404054486;mthreat;early 80s mtv crap 737198;1404054516;mircea_popescu;"who is known for his distinctive voice, mordant (and often satirical) pop songs and for film scores." 737199;1404054523;mircea_popescu;dude gtfo, this guy got no voice. 737200;1404054530;thestringpuller;you've got a fweeen in meeeee 737201;1404054597;mircea_popescu;mordant lol 737202;1404054608;mircea_popescu;ok, ty assets, i'm entertained. 737203;1404054630;mircea_popescu;"Newman has been nominated for 20 Academy Awards, winning twice. He has also won three Emmys, six Grammy Awards, and the Governor's Award from the Recording Academy." 737204;1404054690;mircea_popescu;chetty: BingoBoingo: Anyone interested in selling some ATC over the counter so I can try mike_c's War of Life?//good idea but I am clueless on atc, any ideas when btc will be working there? << ya srsly 737205;1404054736;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: Reddit isn't all redditards... << problem is, the non-redditards aren't redditors. 737206;1404054782;mircea_popescu;nubbins`: a whopping 20mL << it oxidizes like crazy so it's not really sensible to put it in large containers, you'll waste 99%+ of it and it polutes like shit. 737207;1404054808;mircea_popescu;you normally can have galon drums of the stuff forairtight pump based applications (tho usually less toxic adhesives are preferred) 737208;1404054861;mircea_popescu;thestringpuller: i trust nubbins << you can trust him all you want, giant printouts don't transport well. 737209;1404055009;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00082513 = 5.8997 BTC [+] 737210;1404055107;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: you can trust him all you want, giant printouts don't transport well. << yea they do. the movie studios usually will send a deconstructed cutout to the movie theatre for promotion and the theatre staff has to assemble it. 737211;1404055131;thestringpuller;once it's assembled, yes, it doesn't ship well 737212;1404055155;mircea_popescu;movie studios also order this shit by the thousand, for dozens of films at a time. 737213;1404055192;thestringpuller;oh i kno 737214;1404055199;mircea_popescu;if you pack your stuff so it fills a container, you can ship anything you want. 737215;1404055228;mircea_popescu;heck, cars get shipped all across the world, they have romanian made cars in argentina. that won't work if you try to mail your car tho 737216;1404055282;thestringpuller;you can ship cars after purchase via tow service, but I get what you are saying tho... 737217;1404055371;chetty;"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years thered be a shortage of sand." Milton Friedman 737218;1404055436;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16331 @ 0.00082432 = 13.462 BTC [-] {3} 737219;1404055497;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4619 @ 0.00082218 = 3.7976 BTC [-] 737220;1404055713;chetty;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-29/bulgaria-arrests-two-men-amid-efforts-to-stop-run-on-banks.html 737221;1404055714;assbot;Bulgaria Arrests Five Men Amid Efforts to Stop Run on Banks - Bloomberg 737222;1404055836;punkman;"Bulgarian central bank Governor Ivan Iskrov said on June 27 that the financial industry is under organized attack by anonymous e-mails, texts and rumors, threatening the country’s security. " 737223;1404055853;punkman;anonymous emails, such danger 737224;1404055968;mircea_popescu;lol 737225;1404055978;mircea_popescu;bulgaria is such a shithole. 737226;1404056469;xmj;mircea_popescu: ever lived there? 737227;1404056483;xmj;oh wait, he claims his statements to be universal truths applicable to every context. 737228;1404056549;nanotube;;;diffchange 737229;1404056550;gribble;Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -17.25679 % based on data since last change | 5.05024 % based on data for last three days 737230;1404056574;nanotube;ThickAsThieves: ^ two different estimates are available. 'since last change' is highly volatile shortly after a change. 737231;1404057025;kakobrekla;ThickAsThieves http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png 737232;1404057205;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10793 @ 0.00082481 = 8.9022 BTC [+] 737233;1404057313;thestringpuller;mircea_popescu: is ed wuncler the first 737234;1404057525;artifexd;BingoBoingo: Still looking for some ATC OTC? How many? What's your offer? 737235;1404057535;BingoBoingo;%t 737236;1404057537;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 238 24h-Vol: 88k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222 737237;1404057571;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20113353 = 1.0057 BTC [+] {3} 737238;1404057581;BingoBoingo;artifexd: Since this is a personal purchase, could you do 25k @ 238? 737239;1404057601;artifexd;Yes 737240;1404057615;thestringpuller;;;calc 25000 * 238 737241;1404057615;gribble;5950000 737242;1404057628;artifexd;I need a little time to get my altcoind synced up. 737243;1404057632;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00082447 = 9.0279 BTC [-] {2} 737244;1404057634;BingoBoingo;As do I 737245;1404057637;thestringpuller;LOL 737246;1404057652;BingoBoingo;Is there a good ATC node? 737247;1404057738;ThickAsThieves;is since-last useful by any measure? 737248;1404057741;artifexd;84.245.71.31 connected rigght up 737249;1404057745;ThickAsThieves;nanotube ^ 737250;1404057782;artifexd;That was fast. I'm ready when you are. 737251;1404057785;mircea_popescu;!up felipelalli 737252;1404057794;thestringpuller;;;ident 737253;1404057794;gribble;Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None 737254;1404057866;artifexd;;;calc 25000 * 0.00000238 737255;1404057866;gribble;0.0595 737256;1404057876;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00082761 = 7.8209 BTC [+] 737257;1404057885;artifexd;Send ^ to 17ASG7qdYYs9WXBm6QVx8d1bWHA2e1Nr4s 737258;1404057998;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03477914 = 0.6956 BTC [+] 737259;1404058063;artifexd;Where do you want the ATC sent? 737260;1404058100;BingoBoingo;artifexd: 1N2vdbBpvhmeAELqCdWYWcLo5rxnBsZ2zo 737261;1404058114;BingoBoingo;5c15fc7742830f0bb5e0d1af40858e2b5bce5ef457afc2a96ad5562686d8232a 737262;1404058132;BingoBoingo;Thanx 737263;1404058137;BingoBoingo;;;rated artifexd 737264;1404058137;gribble;You rated user artifexd on Wed Mar 5 02:06:14 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: atc trade. 737265;1404058147;artifexd;Done 737266;1404058150;BingoBoingo;;;rate artifexd 2 atc liquidity 737267;1404058151;artifexd;;;rated BingoBoingo 737268;1404058151;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user artifexd has changed from 1 to 2. 737269;1404058152;gribble;You rated user BingoBoingo on Wed Mar 5 13:16:06 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Did what he said he was going to do. 737270;1404058213;artifexd;;;rate BingoBoingo 2 Fast on the send, is he. 737271;1404058215;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 1 to 2. 737272;1404058279;BingoBoingo;%tslb 737273;1404058281;atcbot;13 minutes and 34 seconds 737274;1404058297;punkman;artifexd, got some more for me? 737275;1404058306;artifexd;I do 737276;1404058351;artifexd;How much do you want? 737277;1404058486;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5717 @ 0.00082391 = 4.7103 BTC [-] 737278;1404058498;BingoBoingo;%ob 737279;1404058499;atcbot;45k@277 48k@275 8k@238 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160 737280;1404058511;BingoBoingo;%d 737281;1404058512;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 330617.06 in 1474 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -35.36 737282;1404058765;benkay; https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/with_replies // fluffyponzi 737283;1404058766;assbot;Ricky Riccardo (fluffyponyza) auf Twitter 737284;1404059037;benkay; group photo with the cryps! // actually, that's a good name for this gang right here 737285;1404059218;benkay;weak logs 737286;1404059236;*;benkay goes off to the wsj 737287;1404059673;benkay;http://online.wsj.com/articles/bnp-paribass-looming-u-s-settlement-to-cap-troublesome-period-for-bank-1404058219?mod=europe_home 737288;1404059673;assbot;BNP Paribas's Looming U.S. Settlement to Cap Troublesome Period - WSJ 737289;1404059683;benkay;"In May, in what appeared to be a thinly veiled reference to BNP Paribas and other banks under probe, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder warned that "There is no such thing as too big to jail," signaling that for the first time in decades the government was ready to press guilty pleas on financial institutions." 737290;1404059728;benkay;only foreign banks, and only maybe, and only if the USG catches you and your dodging of thtupid embargoes is woefully poorly managed 737291;1404059849;BingoBoingo;Getting interesting nao: https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/10/ 737292;1404059850;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 737293;1404060473;nubbins`;mircea_popescu: good point re: oxidizing, i've had more than one tube go bad in the past 737294;1404060504;nubbins`;we go through occasional spurts of high usage (re-glue mesh onto frames once or twice a year) 737295;1404060582;nubbins`;homemade stretching rack: http://imgur.com/DhWgD8D 737296;1404060582;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 737297;1404060682;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19331 @ 0.00082663 = 15.9796 BTC [+] {3} 737298;1404060716;benkay;hey, p.neat nubbins` 737299;1404060737;benkay;http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-judge-says-argentinas-attempt-to-pay-holders-of-restructured-bonds-is-illegal-1403884702 // so argentina defaults, aaaaand - their borrowing rates explode? nothing happens? 737300;1404060738;assbot;U.S. Judge Says Argentina Can't Pay Some Bondholders - WSJ 737301;1404060741;benkay;;;8ball 737302;1404060741;gribble;Naturally. 737303;1404061231;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00082771 = 8.6082 BTC [+] 737304;1404061232;punkman;;;tslb 737305;1404061236;gribble;Time since last block: 4 minutes and 37 seconds 737306;1404061455;artifexd;;;rate punkman 1 purchaser of the atc 737307;1404061456;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded. 737308;1404061562;punkman;;;rate artifexd 1 small btc/atc trade | irc bot herder 737309;1404061563;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user artifexd has been recorded. 737310;1404061847;bitcoinpete;http://bitbet.us/bet/783/bitcoin-incremental-difficulty-to-increase-by-3b-or/ << all wrapped up 737311;1404061847;assbot;BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 23.82 B (96%) on Yes, 0.92 B (4%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 43`855 (100`000 to 6`000) 737312;1404061890;benkay;is anyone running a cjdns node? 737313;1404062022;benkay;i was doing some research on subscription tampon services, and i gotta say... 737314;1404062025;benkay;the market's totally saturated. 737315;1404062033;benkay;one might even go so far as to say that it's bloated. 737316;1404062080;mthreat;bleeding cash? 737317;1404062189;artifexd;tampon services... saturated... LOL 737318;1404062339;assbot;Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3K8GXME.txt ) 737319;1404062339;thestringpuller;!bash 5 737320;1404062548;punkman;%tslb 737321;1404062548;atcbot;30 minutes and 29 seconds 737322;1404062789;nubbins`;:0 737323;1404062789;benkay;yeah actually this tampon market thing is ridiculous 737324;1404062816;benkay;a box of the fancy tampons goes for 6.50 in a grocery store 737325;1404062817;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.03471722 = 1.7011 BTC [-] {3} 737326;1404062828;thestringpuller;those tampons tho are hip with the teenagers tho 737327;1404062850;benkay;all of these tampon subscription services are jamming piles of crap into a box and shipping it for 20 US, which i get, but at the same time 737328;1404062869;benkay;why don't i buy them in bulk for 2.50 each, and ship them to you for 5, eh? 737329;1404062877;benkay;then get the marketers to stuff the box with their crap and pay for shipping. 737330;1404062914;benkay;some of these sites have busted ssl configurations 737331;1404062920;benkay;GODDAMNIT STOP SUCKING ECOMMERCE PEOPLE 737332;1404062939;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.03914394 = 2.1138 BTC [+] {6} 737333;1404062940;benkay;maybe i don't buy a machine shop and instead buy a tampon shipping company 737334;1404063103;nubbins`;hmmmmmmm 737335;1404063116;nubbins`;tampon broker 737336;1404063574;[]bot;Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.905 BTC. Current weight: 69,260. 737337;1404064040;bitcoinpete;;;later tell mircea_popescu are you familiar with e.m. cioran? my romanian friends found me a translation of "the temptation to exist" for my birthday :D 737338;1404064040;gribble;The operation succeeded. 737339;1404064082;bitcoinpete;netherlands is on the ropes here 737340;1404064116;bitcoinpete;1-0 mexico with 5 minutes to play 737341;1404064144;bitcoinpete;lol make that 1-1! 737342;1404064279;benkay;stochastic bouncing 737343;1404064378;nubbins`;stochastic dots 737344;1404064403;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15819 @ 0.00082573 = 13.0622 BTC [-] {2} 737345;1404064616;FabianB;benkay: i do run a cjdns/hyperboria node in nyc 737346;1404064631;punkman;%tslb 737347;1404064632;atcbot;10 minutes and 56 seconds 737348;1404064643;punkman;so slow 737349;1404064749;benkay;FabianB: wouldja care to pair our nodes or whatever the correct terminology is? 737350;1404065014;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00082384 = 15.653 BTC [-] {2} 737351;1404066030;benkay;http://docs.timdorr.apiary.io/ 737352;1404066032;assbot;Tesla Model S REST API Apiary 737353;1404066416;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0395 = 0.5135 BTC [+] 737354;1404066538;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00082232 = 19.4068 BTC [-] {3} 737355;1404066890;mircea_popescu;bitcoinpete sure. 737356;1404066920;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/romanian-bloggers-part-2/ 737357;1404067119;mircea_popescu;benkay: FabianB: wouldja care to pair our nodes or whatever the correct terminology is? >> "no homo" ? 737358;1404067410;FabianB;benkay: the term is 'peer', and sure can do 737359;1404067421;FabianB;benkay: where's your node? 737360;1404068080;FabianB;mircea_popescu: are nodes male or female? 737361;1404068108;FabianB;$conference 737362;1404068109;empyex;FabianB: Next conference starts in 9 months and 19 days. Estimated cost today: 2.21439356 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ ) 737363;1404068110;assbot;The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 737364;1404068135;FabianB;hm. with the url it's more verbose 737365;1404068209;mircea_popescu;yay cool 737366;1404068220;mircea_popescu;hm. 737367;1404068260;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla could it be possible to extempt trilema.com from having the title read out by assbot ? 737368;1404068267;mircea_popescu;it's not like the title is ever diff from the url anyway 737369;1404068315;mircea_popescu;(actuyally a really cool system would be one that tokenized the title and the url, and only read the title in chan if there were at least 3 extra stems) 737370;1404068347;kakobrekla;even better than this is half wetware half hardware ai brain deciding case by case what should it be. 737371;1404068367;mircea_popescu;lol 737372;1404068377;kakobrekla;anyway, does it help if i just add empyex to the block list 737373;1404068384;mircea_popescu;no, add trilema to the blocklist 737374;1404068387;kakobrekla;i got most of the bots blocked in such way 737375;1404068402;mircea_popescu;it really makes no sense to have the titles read no matter the source 737376;1404068430;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2009/feminismul-in-romania-eu-nelu/ 737377;1404068431;assbot;Feminismul in Romania - Eu, Nelu. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 737378;1404068435;mircea_popescu;what did that help 737379;1404068450;kakobrekla;ok but when exception list is over half known internets, im turning the title parsing thingy off. 737380;1404068458;FabianB;MP keeps bot masters busy :) 737381;1404068486;mircea_popescu;well if you don't wanna tokenize... 737382;1404068510;mircea_popescu;!up JonVaage 737383;1404068535;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: we did have two GPG key signing sessions yesterday, which was fun << so now you're all wot brothers? 737384;1404068571;mircea_popescu;but wrothers 737385;1404068586;kakobrekla;they have wocked. 737386;1404068588;bitcoinpete;butt butt in the wut 737387;1404068612;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46407 @ 0.00082809 = 38.4292 BTC [+] {3} 737388;1404068620;bitcoinpete;BingoBoingo: Well... It will be a while before I bet against difficulty on BTC << get that exa http://bitbet.us/bet/713/btc-network-hashrate-will-exceed-1-exahash-s-before/ 737389;1404068620;assbot;BitBet - BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015 :: 6.26 B (59%) on Yes, 4.4 B (41%) on No | closing in 5 months 5 days | weight: 50`595 (100`000 to 5`000) 737390;1404068657;BingoBoingo;;;google what what in the butt 737391;1404068657;gribble;Samwell - "What What (In the Butt)" - YouTube: ; Butters - what what in the butt - YouTube: ; What What (In the Butt) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 737392;1404068673;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12093 @ 0.00082841 = 10.018 BTC [+] 737393;1404068745;bitcoinpete;o butters.. 737394;1404068760;mircea_popescu;haha 737395;1404068933;[]bot;Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 53(Y):47(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.79884378 BTC. Current weight: 62,503. 737396;1404069028;bitcoinpete;even money on $1k 737397;1404069099;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 737398;1404069099;gribble;124478348.958 737399;1404069109;bitcoinpete;^fickst! 737400;1404069194;mircea_popescu;aww no 123456789 ? 737401;1404069196;mircea_popescu;shit. 737402;1404069649;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11075 @ 0.00082846 = 9.1752 BTC [+] {2} 737403;1404069954;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.0008259 = 9.0436 BTC [-] 737404;1404070661;FabianB;$traded 737405;1404070661;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR 737406;1404070686;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8204 @ 0.0008259 = 6.7757 BTC [-] 737407;1404070747;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 736 @ 0.00082494 = 0.6072 BTC [-] 737408;1404071172;BingoBoingo;http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/06/autonomous-filing-cabinet-embodies-our-everlasting-data-trail/ 737409;1404071173;assbot;Autonomous filing cabinet embodies our everlasting data trail | Ars Technica 737410;1404071328;[]bot;Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 83(Y):17(N) by coin, 79(Y):21(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 33,687. 737411;1404071540;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.037 = 0.518 BTC [-] {2} 737412;1404071545;mircea_popescu;;;diff 737413;1404071546;gribble;1.6818461371161112E10 737414;1404072029;BingoBoingo;%d 737415;1404072031;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 334141.07 in 1451 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -34.68 737416;1404072754;thestringpuller;hooray for vidya games 737417;1404072882;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20291913 = 0.8117 BTC [+] {3} 737418;1404073919;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0008266 = 1.6119 BTC [+] 737419;1404074257;BingoBoingo;I'm wondering what surprises the S.MPOE catch up statement will have in store 737420;1404074267;mircea_popescu;you think ? 737421;1404074827;BingoBoingo;Well, I mean the War of Life announcement was a nice surprise. So much better than dice. 737422;1404074926;thestringpuller;i forgot to read bitbet may statement 737423;1404074963;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/29/jeffrey-sachs-the-rsm-of-african-interventionism/ 737424;1404074995;BingoBoingo;https://atc.waroflife.com/minigame/221/ 737425;1404074996;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 737426;1404075098;benkay;;;leater tell mike_c https://atc.waroflife.com/rules/minigame/1/ "this page" has no link. 737427;1404075099;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 737428;1404075099;gribble;Error: "leater" is not a valid command. 737429;1404075103;benkay;;;later tell mike_c https://atc.waroflife.com/rules/minigame/1/ "this page" has no link. 737430;1404075103;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 737431;1404075103;gribble;The operation succeeded. 737432;1404075202;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.039 = 1.404 BTC [+] {3} 737433;1404075383;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6055 @ 0.00082748 = 5.0104 BTC [+] {2} 737434;1404075627;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.039 = 0.546 BTC [+] 737435;1404076040;penguirker;New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-poetry-of-the-derp/ 737436;1404076213;BingoBoingo;!mpif 737437;1404076214;assbot;BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] 737438;1404076302;mircea_popescu;!up Belsage 737439;1404076381;BingoBoingo;!up chax 737440;1404076391;BingoBoingo;!up Anduck 737441;1404076517;Anduck;sup 737442;1404076605;mircea_popescu;same 'ol. 737443;1404076782;BingoBoingo;Not too much 737444;1404076811;mircea_popescu;;;later tell bitcoinpete interesting point re the temperature variation. 737445;1404076811;gribble;The operation succeeded. 737446;1404077335;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 334 @ 0.00169004 = 0.5645 BTC [-] {3} 737447;1404077608;mircea_popescu;http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-tigancusa-spune-drept/ 737448;1404077609;assbot;[NSFW] Tigancusa, spune drept… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. 737449;1404078007;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082777 = 4.3044 BTC [+] 737450;1404078433;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12523 @ 0.00082784 = 10.367 BTC [+] {2} 737451;1404078860;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15115 @ 0.00083003 = 12.5459 BTC [+] 737452;1404080109;kakobrekla;http://news.yahoo.com/police-probe-familys-electronics-sons-death-152012165.html 737453;1404080110;assbot;Police probe family's electronics in son's death - Yahoo News 737454;1404080115;kakobrekla;be careful what you search for, it may come true. 737455;1404080141;assbot;[MPEX] [D.BPAY] 33 @ 0.23999999 = 7.92 BTC 737456;1404080242;benkay;if you've failed to teach a two year old how to get out of a car, you've failed as a parent and don't deserve to propagate your genes. 737457;1404080269;mircea_popescu;i doubt a two year old needs to be taught. 737458;1404080284;benkay;lady v was nattering on about this recently. i lost my temper and told her that "fine, we'll lock them in and train them how to get out." 737459;1404080297;chetty;I think current 'car seats' are actually designed to prevent kids from getting out 737460;1404080301;benkay;no man you radically understimate how little the little fuckers can do 737461;1404080325;mircea_popescu;i dunno, my parents used to hide tools 737462;1404080327;mircea_popescu;like say screwdrivers 737463;1404080347;benkay;oh scuse me how little the little american fuckers have been allowed to learn 737464;1404080395;mircea_popescu;i remember my favourite things were complex toys 737465;1404080400;mircea_popescu;because i liked taking them apart. 737466;1404080445;benkay;i did that to my father's stereo 737467;1404080463;mircea_popescu;what's TRP stand for again ? 737468;1404080468;benkay;"the red pill" 737469;1404080478;benkay;have you seen "The Matrix"? 737470;1404080486;mircea_popescu;yes ? 737471;1404080505;benkay;you take the blue pill, you go to sleep, you wake up and everything continues as normal. 737472;1404080505;chetty;red or blue, its up to you 737473;1404080555;mircea_popescu;well that doesn't halp. apparently some reddit libertard brigade doesn't like me because, i quote, "I ignored it because I thought the article was terrible, un-self-aware TRP crap, but it wasn't worth replying to." 737474;1404080566;mircea_popescu;sooooo ? 737475;1404080577;benkay;in the context of the pososphere, it refers to the set of notions rejected by mainstream/academic america 737476;1404080587;benkay;hbd 737477;1404080589;mircea_popescu;what's the pososphere again ? 737478;1404080592;benkay;inequality 737479;1404080595;mircea_popescu;fuck me im old/clueless 737480;1404080599;benkay;oh gosh again, talk to princessnell about that 737481;1404080636;benkay;but roughly speaking, the groups constantly pushing egalitarianism and rights and all the socialist claptrap 737482;1404080643;mircea_popescu;so the libertards 737483;1404080647;mircea_popescu;alias pososphere ? 737484;1404080656;benkay;so who are the libertards? 737485;1404080657;mircea_popescu;ill end up needing an equivalency table on the wall. 737486;1404080660;benkay;fuck me i'm young/clueless 737487;1404080665;mircea_popescu;the libertards are the "liberal" retards. 737488;1404080674;benkay;oh so not the libertarian retards 737489;1404080683;benkay;i just say 'progressives' 737490;1404080684;mircea_popescu;ie, kids who lived their entire life in a us town and imagine their us "education" is actually a thing. 737491;1404080695;benkay;that group over there who think that the world can be made better via legislation 737492;1404080706;mircea_popescu;the libertarian retards are like what, the gold bugs ? 737493;1404080755;thestringpuller;thought it was silver bugs 737494;1404080756;kakobrekla; fuck me i'm young/clueless < but can you get out of the car? 737495;1404080762;mircea_popescu;ok, so the guy is actually saying he ignored my article because it wasn't coherent with his mistaken notions ? 737496;1404080767;benkay;kakobrekla: i can't even cook for myself 737497;1404080771;mircea_popescu;that's unexpectedly explicit. are you allowed to do that ? 737498;1404080772;kakobrekla;:D 737499;1404080960;benkay;TRP is also shorthand to those people for "racist/misogynist/classist" 737500;1404080990;mircea_popescu;o wait, so the libertards have decided the matrix is racist ? 737501;1404081004;benkay;because obviously if you think there's a difference between men and women you must be some kind of evil human 737502;1404081011;benkay;no no the matrix is good, thats what TRP is 737503;1404081020;benkay;libertards are failing to grasp the metaphor 737504;1404081026;mircea_popescu;wait. 737505;1404081041;mircea_popescu;but if he says my thing's trp crap that implies trp is bad and by extension the matrix heretic 737506;1404081042;chetty;what? when the hell did libertarians get on that band wagon 737507;1404081043;mircea_popescu;no ? 737508;1404081053;benkay;trp is bad because the matrix is good 737509;1404081056;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00082578 = 10.7351 BTC [-] {2} 737510;1404081060;nubbins`;the matrix is just okay 737511;1404081061;nubbins`;not good 737512;1404081065;mircea_popescu;wasn't the red pill what you're supposed to take ? 737513;1404081079;nubbins`;well, depends on what sorta trip you want. 737514;1404081092;mircea_popescu;ok, doesn't the keanu reeves character take teh red pill ? 737515;1404081095;benkay;yes. 737516;1404081096;nubbins`;yes 737517;1404081106;mircea_popescu;ok so then trp should be valued the same sign as the film. 737518;1404081115;benkay;and libertards fail to grasp the metaphor. 737519;1404081117;mircea_popescu;if the film's good trp can't be an insult, nor a reason not to worship me. 737520;1404081125;nubbins`;i always forget until i remember that one traitor standing up in his rags in a post-apocalyptic wasteland saying "why didn't i take the blue pill?" 737521;1404081198;mircea_popescu;nubbins` welcome to dyslexia club. "honey, i can remember a very emotionally charged conversation but i don't recall if you were trying to dump me or marry me. which was it ?" 737522;1404081215;nubbins`;(furtively checks finger for ring) 737523;1404081224;nubbins`;"marry! marry! just kidding" 737524;1404081284;benkay;libertards reject that the red pill takes you out of the consensual hallucination. 737525;1404081292;benkay;or maybe that there is a hallucination 737526;1404081313;mircea_popescu;at any rate, can we say that "self aware" is a compliment (devoid of actual content) or just "un-self-aware" is a dig ? 737527;1404081336;mircea_popescu;benkay so the matrix is a good film with a bad ending in libertard fanon ? 737528;1404081357;benkay;no no it's a great movie with a great ending in libertard canon 737529;1404081364;benkay;they just fail to connect the dots. 737530;1404081368;mircea_popescu;but. 737531;1404081382;mircea_popescu;but if it is then the fact my article is trp can't be "crap". he should be eating it up. 737532;1404081403;benkay;this is the libertard in full cog-diss mode. 737533;1404081404;mircea_popescu;what are these people, the internet mental dissonance club ? 737534;1404081407;*;nubbins` shakes head 737535;1404081413;nubbins`;the red pill is an unbearable downer. 737536;1404081419;nubbins`;nobody's happy they took i 737537;1404081420;mircea_popescu;o 737538;1404081423;nubbins`;it 737539;1404081425;mircea_popescu;o i see! thanks man., 737540;1404081430;nubbins`;it just wipes the shit off their glasses 737541;1404081431;ThickAsThieves;I'd explain it as,"TRP crap" means conspiracy/bullshit that doesnt really exist 737542;1404081434;ThickAsThieves;fabricated 737543;1404081436;benkay;no that's not it 737544;1404081441;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves it existed in the film no ? 737545;1404081443;nubbins`;so they get to see they're standing in a field of shit stretching as far as the eye can see 737546;1404081445;benkay;trp is 'conspiraci' 737547;1404081452;mircea_popescu;is that what it's based on, the fiction/reality cleavage ? 737548;1404081452;ThickAsThieves;i mean in reference to your critic 737549;1404081452;chetty;but they never know they took it, how can that be unhappy about taking it? 737550;1404081456;nubbins`;whereas being oblivious would be a preferred alternative 737551;1404081466;ThickAsThieves;he's saying believing there's a matrix is bullshit 737552;1404081467;benkay;gotta bounce y'all 737553;1404081481;nubbins`;ah 737554;1404081486;mircea_popescu;tbh i buy nubbins` explanation most readily. in libertard fanon "nobody cares what the truth is, merely convenience matters" 737555;1404081487;nubbins`;well then. 737556;1404081487;chetty;but there is! 737557;1404081495;mircea_popescu;so trilema is trp crap par excellence 737558;1404081499;nubbins`;mp, ignorance is bliss 737559;1404081506;mircea_popescu;all should skip it, and maybe isps should put TW all over it 737560;1404081512;nubbins`;i don't sleep better at night for the knowledge i've gained 737561;1404081519;mircea_popescu;right. 737562;1404081526;ThickAsThieves;anyone using TRP to dismiss text is an idiot anyway 737563;1404081537;chetty;nubbins`, +10 737564;1404081540;mircea_popescu;ThickAsThieves i wouldn't mind if they printed it and swallowed it. 737565;1404081552;mircea_popescu;anyway, thanks o most ilustrious chan of +12 ip. 737566;1404081568;mircea_popescu;i am nao wiser! and i think i actually will sleep better after my meal, for having figured out this :D 737567;1404081601;nubbins`;did i post pictures earlier? 737568;1404081605;*;nubbins` searches log 737569;1404081623;mircea_popescu;s/ip/iq. dyslexia striʞes again! 737570;1404081682;nubbins`;http://imgur.com/EaLRnxs 737571;1404081682;assbot;imgur: the simple image sharer 737572;1404081691;nubbins`;printed ~150 of these earlier 737573;1404081697;mircea_popescu;<benkay> no no it's a great movie with a great ending in libertard canon << nothing libertard can be canon. we make the rules, they make the whines. 737574;1404083899;benkay;a scusi - i figured: c and f, so close, musta been some sorta typo. 737575;1404083904;benkay;so what is fanon then? 737576;1404084395;punkman;ninjashogun: but I am not going to take the offer as I need to do both companies concurrently. obviously $200K would solve all of my money needs, but then I would be beholden to just the second startup, instead of being able to pursue both 737577;1404084403;punkman;higher number of startup is better 737578;1404084492;Blazedout419;;;rate mircea_popescu 1 Trilema credits..interesting reading so far! 737579;1404084493;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. 737580;1404084507;punkman;!up ninjashogun 737581;1404084563;ninjashogun;thanks punkman - this channel flashed when you mentioned me, (I asked punkman for voice) 737582;1404084607;ninjashogun;I thought I'd very briefly repeat the financing offer on offer elsewhere in case someone here is interested as well. Note that historically I've found this channel (-assets) very troll-y, but I do realize a lot of financing idles here (more than the other channel). 737583;1404084615;punkman;if you got an offer, take the fucking offer 737584;1404084626;ninjashogun;Sorry: 737585;1404084710;ninjashogun;The offer is that I am now doing 2 startups concurrently, the first is farther-along at 1-year+, with traditional VC-funding in the pipeline. We've been discussing a $10M valuation - but obviously that is a LONG ways off, that is more like a 24-month pipeline. The VC that we've discussed this with has recently (just this past August) made a $400M exit off of a $10M investment made 3 years prior. We have active VC talks a 737586;1404084710;ninjashogun;nd a process ongoing with this company, 737587;1404084716;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 109 @ 0.0235094 = 2.5625 BTC [-] {2} 737588;1404084717;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.000827 = 13.2734 BTC [+] 737589;1404084719;ninjashogun;which is registered, has some assets, and so forth. 737590;1404084741;ninjashogun;There is also a second company, which is much younger, not yet incorporated but it is pure services, and we already have 1 client. 737591;1404084755;BingoBoingo;You've never once hinted at these things doing anything. 737592;1404084771;Blazedout419;yes give some basic details! 737593;1404084786;ninjashogun;to tell you a bit about me, I'm 31, and previously was an early-employee at a YCombinator-backed startup that made an exit (no windfallf or me, but I got to see the whole process) 737594;1404084802;ninjashogun;YCombinator is the incubator that backed: Reddit, Dropbox, AirBNB 737595;1404084819;benkay;which startup? 737596;1404084824;ninjashogun;I can tell you a bit about the companies, of course, but I'm not selling an idea, so much as a pipeline 737597;1404084827;ninjashogun;benkay, Tuxebo 737598;1404084849;ninjashogun;I've been programming since I was 15 (or earlier) and quite technical as well. 737599;1404084856;BingoBoingo;You suggested someone take a wired security device and make it wireless because WPA is so much more secure than not intentionally broadcasting seekrits 737600;1404084859;ninjashogun;The two companies are: 1) a proprietary hardware company (totally unrelated to bitcoin in any way) 737601;1404084886;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, so I was in here seeking financing for the second company, which was a services company. As part of that I also sought to sell services, which didn't materialize 737602;1404084912;ninjashogun;btw I've repeated this recently. I was in touch wtih Nxt selling services to them. But they failed their reference check completely, utterly. 737603;1404084934;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: You assumed to sell the service of improving a product you new nothing about, because you are "The Special" or some shit. 737604;1404084947;BingoBoingo;;;rated ninjashogun 737605;1404084948;gribble;You rated user ninjashogun on Sun Jun 29 19:31:19 2014, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable. 737606;1404084966;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, how was I supposed to know the people in here don't buy services? 737607;1404084981;benkay;who in here tweets? 737608;1404084986;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, it was just a simple offer. Recently, Nxt was very interested, but they failed (bombed, totally bombed) my reference check on them. 737609;1404085003;ninjashogun;anyway if you are just going to want to troll I have other options for my time. 737610;1404085011;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: People in here buy services all of the fucking time. They simply buy services from people who know what they are servicing. Not fucking cold callers asking for payment up front. 737611;1404085015;benkay;BingoBoingo: would you make a tweet for me? 737612;1404085020;BingoBoingo;benkay: Sure 737613;1404085051;ninjashogun;I will say that asciilifeform's conclusion was totally wrong. WPA or whatever is not needed for secure communication over a device. You could flash a LED and have a webcam read it, and vice versa (it can read flashing of a monitor). There is absolutely no outside channel that exposes. 737614;1404085082;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5572 @ 0.00083001 = 4.6248 BTC [+] 737615;1404085085;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun: You were the one who supposed WPA and all of the other derp 737616;1404085092;ninjashogun;Anyway as a founder when I'm in touch with people who come to me with ideas, the last thing I do is troll them about it. 737617;1404085102;ninjashogun;BingoBoingo, that characterization isn't accurate. 737618;1404085112;benkay;nvm, his twitter's been inactive for years. 737619;1404085113;ninjashogun;Anyway we're through with that 737620;1404085123;benkay;ninjashogun: your claims re: tuxebo are unsubstantiable. 737621;1404085138;ninjashogun;benkay stop trolling me for a minute if you'd like to hear the rest of my offer 737622;1404085140;ninjashogun;I'm a real-world person 737623;1404085142;ninjashogun;you can call me RIGHT NOW 737624;1404085155;BingoBoingo;I'm an otter. 737625;1404085156;ninjashogun;actually I almost wrote my number here 737626;1404085164;benkay;no, your claims are unsubstantiable. 737627;1404085167;ninjashogun;I forgot that this channel is logged and googleable, it's pretty ridiculous. 737628;1404085169;benkay;that's not trolling. 737629;1404085176;benkay;!s pososphere 737630;1404085177;assbot;1 results for 'pososphere' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=pososphere 737631;1404085181;ninjashogun;No, benkay, if you match what you told me about me previously IRL then it's trivially substantiable. 737632;1404085188;punkman;don't even need google anymore :P 737633;1404085193;ninjashogun;Benkay, haven't you ever done a reference check? 737634;1404085204;ninjashogun;Benkay, what do you do when you get a resume (CV)? Don't you know how to check up on people. 737635;1404085210;benkay;i call their references. 737636;1404085211;ninjashogun;I swear, people on IRC network in the weirdest effin ways. 737637;1404085215;benkay;which you've failed to provide. 737638;1404085223;benkay;gtfo have i done a background check. 737639;1404085238;ninjashogun;benkay, I offered to actually talk to you. Happy to provide references if you want. 737640;1404085242;punkman;mthreat, you should crawl the links in the logs and let us search them from the same interface 737641;1404085271;ninjashogun;btw I've been idling both here and elsewhere, and all I see in this conversation is trolling. Just look up at your scrollback before my name was mentioned. There is nothing that goes on in here that isn't a waste of everyone's time. 737642;1404085289;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2KQZTD6.txt ) 737643;1404085289;punkman;!b 1 737644;1404085289;benkay;"Beyond that, it would be very hard to tease out any actionable career 737645;1404085290;benkay;information from the biographical information." 737646;1404085293;ninjashogun;I will make my offer, because I was mentioned in here, and that's it 737647;1404085294;benkay;that's what you sent me. 737648;1404085298;benkay;that's not references. 737649;1404085322;ninjashogun;Benkay, you didn't ask for references. 737650;1404085325;ninjashogun;You asked for an introduction. 737651;1404085330;benkay;i am asking for references now. 737652;1404085332;ninjashogun;And possibly tax returns? 737653;1404085353;ninjashogun;Fine, you can call Paul Graham (pg@ycoombinator.com) and ask about Robert Viragh. 737654;1404085354;benkay;and as tuxebo is apparently out of business, that's not good enough. 737655;1404085363;ninjashogun;As I mentioned, it was acquired. 737656;1404085371;ninjashogun;I also mentioned that I had no personal windfall from it. 737657;1404085381;ninjashogun;I know that you are a bit anti-startup 737658;1404085383;ninjashogun;it is what it is. 737659;1404085389;ninjashogun;Meanwhile, I'm a startup founder (2 right now). 737660;1404085396;ninjashogun;so we have our differences, benkay 737661;1404085411;punkman;ninjashogun, why the hell are you turning down the $200k to raise $30k in #bitcoin-otc 737662;1404085414;ninjashogun;I will make my offer and then if nobody is interested that's enough. It's the same offer that's happening elsewher. 737663;1404085420;benkay;and what can mr graham say about you, ninjashogun ? 737664;1404085422;ninjashogun;punkamn because of how startups work 737665;1404085429;ninjashogun;punkman it's not just "$200K" 737666;1404085433;benkay;acquired by whom, ninjashogun ? 737667;1404085457;ninjashogun;it's $200K with a boatloat of strings, and I couldn't do the other (earlier) startup. 737668;1404085468;ninjashogun;The earlier startup is actually much farther along but it is a harder play. 737669;1404085486;ninjashogun;Look, I recommned you read "Venture Deals" by Brad Feld. 737670;1404085500;ninjashogun;there are other resources as well. There is a ton of information. 737671;1404085507;benkay;read it. 737672;1404085510;ninjashogun;I realize that startups are quite different from the bitcoin-related assets, etc. 737673;1404085513;ninjashogun;benkay - how did you like it? 737674;1404085525;punkman;ninjashogun: business is business 737675;1404085527;ninjashogun;(we're getting seriously derailed btw) 737676;1404085531;benkay;it laid out the current american approach to fundraising pretty cleanly. 737677;1404085548;benkay;ninjashogun: who acquired tuxebo? 737678;1404085555;benkay;ninjashogun: what will graham have to say about you? 737679;1404085559;ninjashogun;benkay - that is the approach that I'm following. I'm an American, and the first (earlier) company is registered in the US. 737680;1404085565;ninjashogun;benkay - why don't you write him and find out. 737681;1404085570;ninjashogun;or call him if you can get a number. 737682;1404085578;ninjashogun;the new president, Sam Altman, knows me vaguely as well. 737683;1404085579;benkay;inadequate. 737684;1404085586;ninjashogun;then learn how to do a reference check. 737685;1404085590;BingoBoingo;%ob 737686;1404085591;atcbot;30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160 737687;1404085592;benkay;!down ninjashogun 737688;1404085596;benkay;enough. 737689;1404085691;BingoBoingo;In more productive news the cast iron is doing well. Eggs didn't stick this morning. 737690;1404085749;BingoBoingo;;;google site:loper-os.org ninjashogun 737691;1404085750;gribble;No matches found. 737692;1404085768;BingoBoingo;;;google site:loper-os.org ninjaspamsor 737693;1404085769;gribble;No matches found. 737694;1404085828;BingoBoingo;!s asciilifeform ninjashogun.txt 737695;1404085828;assbot;0 results for 'asciilifeform+ninjashogun.txt' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=asciilifeform%2Bninjashogun.txt 737696;1404085861;benkay;!s from: asciilifeform ninjashogun 737697;1404085862;assbot;Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A%2Basciilifeform%2Bninjashogun 737698;1404085875;benkay;!s from:asciilifeform ninjashogun 737699;1404085875;assbot;0 results for 'from:asciilifeform+ninjashogun' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%2Bninjashogun 737700;1404085895;benkay;mthreat: ^^ what do i do 737701;1404086108;punkman;!s from:asciilifeform pastebin 737702;1404086108;assbot;0 results for 'from:asciilifeform+pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%2Bpastebin 737703;1404086138;BingoBoingo;http://dpaste.com/1Y5D3EG 737704;1404086139;assbot;dpaste: 1Y5D3EG 737705;1404086146;BingoBoingo;^ not the one I was looking for 737706;1404086178;mthreat;benkay: hmm it looks like assbot is double-url-encoding searches, the %2B should be a '+' or '%20' 737707;1404086183;punkman;http://pastebin.com/yvhVVs7C 737708;1404086189;mthreat;benkay: for now, just try teh search from the web interface 737709;1404086204;*;benkay makes a frowny face 737710;1404086220;benkay;wow paul graham doesn't appear to have published a pgp key. 737711;1404086310;BingoBoingo;I'm wondering what happened to the one he posted on the loper site, should have bookmarked it. 737712;1404086372;BingoBoingo;http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt 737713;1404086422;kakobrekla;!s http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt 737714;1404086424;assbot;2 results for 'http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loper-os.org%2Fpub%2Fninjashogun.txt 737715;1404086424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.48777401 BTC to 9`951 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 737716;1404086465;kakobrekla;here, if you know the url, you can find it. 737717;1404086466;dub;asspiestartups.com 737718;1404086483;dub;kakobrekla: make a search startup 737719;1404086511;dub;your architecture is correct 737720;1404086529;kakobrekla;lol 737721;1404086552;kakobrekla;actually mthreat takes the credit. 737722;1404086567;kakobrekla;and he already has a search startup 737723;1404086668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 55.34397915 BTC to 9`951 shares, 556165 satoshi per share 737724;1404086683;nubbins`;sides 737725;1404086790;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02096666 = 0.629 BTC [-] {4} 737726;1404087298;benkay;;;later tell ninjashogun how does an idiot american dial this number? +36307162512 737727;1404087298;gribble;The operation succeeded. 737728;1404087317;benkay;anyone know how to dial that number? 737729;1404087329;BingoBoingo;benkay: I'm guessing you ask moiety? 737730;1404087332;dub;typically use 00 instead of + from a hardline 737731;1404087339;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 54 @ 0.02009264 = 1.085 BTC [-] {4} 737732;1404087440;nubbins`;011 for int'l here 737733;1404087510;benkay;dag 30 seconds of that number just ripped through my skype credits 737734;1404087525;dub;muricans. why would I need a passport, never even called another country? 737735;1404087565;BingoBoingo;It's been about a decade, actually it's roughly within a month of my last international call 737736;1404087586;BingoBoingo;Within a month of exactly a decade 737737;1404087695;dub;1 week, was calling home tho 737738;1404087748;benkay;dub: i grew up with skype. 737739;1404087753;benkay;why would i use a landline for anything? 737740;1404087832;dub;skype should have known how to dial that 737741;1404087949;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.01574922 = 1.008 BTC [+] {14} 737742;1404088254;benkay; cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 44 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0003. 24 hr volume: 205 megadoge 737743;1404088258;benkay;the doge bet is now in play 737744;1404088404;BingoBoingo;http://bitbet.us/bet/863/doge-no-longer-woofing-before-jan-1st-2015/ 737745;1404088404;assbot;BitBet - Doge no longer woofing before Jan 1st 2015 :: 1.1 B (86%) on Yes, 0.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 5 months 1 week| weight: 81`984 (100`000 to 1) 737746;1404088452;thestringpuller;the doge founder left no? 737747;1404088487;BingoBoingo;One of them did 737748;1404088559;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.000827 = 33.5762 BTC [-] 737749;1404088681;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 43 @ 0.03079906 = 1.3244 BTC [-] 737750;1404088925;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 96 @ 0.01910052 = 1.8336 BTC [-] {3} 737751;1404089108;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.01677216 = 0.587 BTC [+] {3} 737752;1404089685;BingoBoingo;Game of the week still doesn't have the activity to self correct odds like BitBet does yet https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/10/ 737753;1404089685;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 737754;1404090180;punkman;BingoBoingo, but it's still early in the game 737755;1404090272;BingoBoingo;punkman: Sure, but The underdog "life" is substantially better captitalized than the current frontrunner "death" and has been most of today. 737756;1404090444;punkman;%tslb 737757;1404090446;atcbot;-1 hours 36 minutes and 41 seconds 737758;1404091060;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8008 BTC [-] 737759;1404091417;asciilifeform;(usg) nsa needs to hire a new script writer 737760;1404091433;asciilifeform;their spam-muppet reads far too much like a character from 'silicon valley' 737761;1404091548;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.01872642 = 0.5243 BTC [+] {2} 737762;1404091670;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-] 737763;1404091810;BingoBoingo;Yes they do. 737764;1404091977;asciilifeform;in other 'news', 737765;1404091979;asciilifeform;http://imgur.com/7fhhLsz,8VErLnJ,KcBodus,PIqi7cm#0 737766;1404091979;assbot;wikileakwagen & its keeper. - Imgur 737767;1404092029;asciilifeform;^ right in the middle of wash., d.c. parked next to a gigantic public expo (international 'culture' miscellania) 737768;1404092036;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 29 @ 0.01862782 = 0.5402 BTC [-] {2} 737769;1404092050;asciilifeform;i walk up to the woman, and, 'so tell about yourself & wtf' 737770;1404092067;BingoBoingo;It's like the Anarchists and Ghaddafi switched colors. WTF is this Wikileaken Green and Isis Black. 737771;1404092077;asciilifeform;woman: 'i am member of anonymous11! i support wikileaks! but i haven't any idea how to program, i write poetry.' 737772;1404092097;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 17 @ 0.03079906 = 0.5236 BTC [-] 737773;1404092109;asciilifeform;^ wikileakwagen appeared here before. it used to live next to me. 737774;1404092158;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 40 @ 0.03079906 = 1.232 BTC [-] 737775;1404092159;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.018621 = 0.7448 BTC [-] 737776;1404092175;asciilifeform;me: 'so you used to live on xxxx street?' woman: 'nah, this guy just let me part on his farm. now i live here.' 737777;1404092188;asciilifeform;*park 737778;1404092192;BingoBoingo;For a brief time in grad school I was acquainted with a woman like that. Ran fedora core on OLPC laptop she acquired for $5. Dunno what she actually did with that stuff. 737779;1404092219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.01266059 = 0.5444 BTC [-] {8} 737780;1404092220;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 23 @ 0.03079906 = 0.7084 BTC [-] {2} 737781;1404092257;BingoBoingo;Living in the wikileakwagen has to be a good way to become sterile with all of the EM aimed at it to provoke the electronics to sing their secrets. 737782;1404092298;asciilifeform;first thing i found when looking for discussion of the very memorable wagen is 'honeypot' 737783;1404092332;asciilifeform;there are specific allegations about the keeper of the wagen, which afaik she never publicly answered. 737784;1404092358;BingoBoingo;I dunno if she's have to aware for it to be a honeypot. 737785;1404092364;asciilifeform;nope. 737786;1404092371;asciilifeform;technical term, as i recall, is 'patsy' 737787;1404092378;BingoBoingo;;;google theramin the thing 737788;1404092379;gribble;Léon Theremin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Thing (listening device) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Theremin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 737789;1404092382;asciilifeform;or, in lenin's parlance, 'useful idiot' 737790;1404092402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00082946 = 17.3357 BTC [+] 737791;1404092415;asciilifeform;herr termen's gizmo is a best-selling product now, everyone knows how it worked. 737792;1404092441;asciilifeform;('rfid', not the musical instrument) 737793;1404092474;asciilifeform;what was inside the wagen? some aging hippies. 737794;1404092483;asciilifeform;(or at least, men dressed for that part) 737795;1404092524;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4168 @ 0.000827 = 3.4469 BTC [-] 737796;1404092553;thestringpuller;nubbins`: you around? 737797;1404092569;BingoBoingo;Well, since the NSA isn't likely far ahead cryptographically anymore other than sabotaging the systems of others. I have to wonder what sorts of goodies they might have as far as signit goes. 737798;1404092581;nubbins`;back and forth, just cutting up some stuff 737799;1404092600;asciilifeform;what sigint you need for this poor woman? she wants you to walk right in, tell all. 737800;1404092603;BingoBoingo;;;google android keystore vulnerability 737801;1404092604;gribble;Serious Android crypto key theft vulnerability affects ... - Ars Technica: ; KeyStore Vulnerability Affects 86% of Android Devices - Slashdot: ; KeyStore Vulnerability Affects 86% of Android Devices - Slashdot: (1 more message) 737802;1404092629;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: To read what the curious carry upon their persons. 737803;1404092669;BingoBoingo;Not from the wagen of course. Prolly from the boring Toyota parked a block away 737804;1404092689;asciilifeform;http://millionmaskmarch.org/wikipoet << lol, 'refutation' 737805;1404092691;assbot;Secret Agent Poet Myth: No, She’s Not a Fed | OFFICIAL Million Mask March 2014 Map 737806;1404092725;BingoBoingo;COINTEL PRO 737807;1404092790;asciilifeform;http://millionmaskmarch.org/joseph_hallford << the kind of lolmaster attracted by the wikiwagen 737808;1404092791;assbot;Million Mask March Weapons Felon Joseph Hallford | OFFICIAL Million Mask March 2014 Map 737809;1404092820;BingoBoingo;http://polymathpoet.com/about << Reads loyal soldier of the regime 737810;1404092821;assbot;Christine Ann Sands, Biography | Polymath Poet 737811;1404092898;BingoBoingo;"Pioneered the field of naturopathic dermatology. Authored a book and web site where millions of people with the worlds #1 skin disorder were freely helped and where Yale Dermatology referred their physicians and patients." << Low effort expertise, has help from on high if Yale refers to what she peddles. 737812;1404092915;asciilifeform;http://polymathpoet.com/revolution << 'poems' 737813;1404092916;assbot;Revolution | Polymath Poet 737814;1404092923;asciilifeform;tedious, morose. 737815;1404093019;BingoBoingo;http://polymathpoet.com/slave_girl << Agitprop fail 737816;1404093019;assbot;Slave Girl | Polymath Poet 737817;1404093123;BingoBoingo;Why no "Slave Man" in UnSavory Garnish agitprop? American History >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_%28abolitionist%29#Gathering_forces 737818;1404093124;assbot;John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 737819;1404093318;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32727 @ 0.00083029 = 27.1729 BTC [+] {4} 737820;1404093476;asciilifeform;much more interesting woman: walked into coffee shop, proclaims at the top of her lungs: 'i've been standing in front of this place all day, and you won't give me a free drink!' clerk: '...' woman: 'know what? i own this place! you're all fired!' clerk: [unintelligible] woman: 'sure, i'll wait for the police. [pulls out phone, films]' police come. woman led outside, 'i will have the lot of you fired! last time p 737821;1404093476;asciilifeform;olice dragged me to a psych clinic, where they strangled me, [ten minutes of unintelligible crud]' police: turned her loose, drove away 737822;1404093523;BingoBoingo;Indeed 737823;1404093581;asciilifeform;inevitable observation / puzzle: why are all of the public nuts so tediously predictable. 737824;1404093658;BingoBoingo;probably programmed that way via pre-facebook psychic experimentation 737825;1404093724;asciilifeform;'Whom shall I trust / My own hormones and lust / or my rage and my hate / that await at Hells gate.' 737826;1404093743;asciilifeform;lesson appears to be, nuttery does not entail originality. 737827;1404093746;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.03546935 = 1.206 BTC [+] {5} 737828;1404093803;BingoBoingo;Not always, but occasionally interesting or significant ones emerge like Van Goh or Edward Teller 737829;1404093846;asciilifeform;teller is a pathetic figure (in the original sense of the word) 737830;1404093858;asciilifeform;spent his entire life trying to convince anyone who would listen that he is a great inventor 737831;1404093885;asciilifeform;(t's bomb - didn't work) 737832;1404093901;BingoBoingo;Of course, that's where Mr. U came in. 737833;1404093948;asciilifeform;actually, the first usable (sans liquid hydrogen) fusion bomb was built on the other side of the ocean 737834;1404093972;*;asciilifeform always surprised at how this surprises people 737835;1404093989;BingoBoingo;Sure. But it depends on your definition of useful. 737836;1404094014;asciilifeform;droppable. 737837;1404094015;BingoBoingo;Teller wanted the Bomb not only as a weapon, but also as a replacement for the shovel 737838;1404094083;BingoBoingo;There are probably parts of the pentagon today more afraid of the possibility of the liquid hydrogen bomb in a tractor trailer than a droppable bomd 737839;1404094107;asciilifeform;still need the fissile primary, in both variants. 737840;1404094107;BingoBoingo;Or modular shipping container. 737841;1404094157;BingoBoingo;Kim Jung Il needs money to keep paying for Dennis Rodman 737842;1404094170;asciilifeform;lol today's wagen pics are on 'cryptome.' 737843;1404094181;asciilifeform;(not mine) 737844;1404094205;BingoBoingo;If Micheal Jordan has another one of his 1990's Klye style gambling binges he might fall into Kim's price range as well 737845;1404094260;mircea_popescu;Blazedout419 it's supposed to be scandalous. 737846;1404094286;mircea_popescu; so what is fanon then? << canon is the story as written by the author. fanon is the story as "it could be", written by the fans. 737847;1404094298;mircea_popescu;;;google tvtropes.org fanon 737848;1404094299;gribble;Main/Fanon - Television Tropes & Idioms - TV Tropes: ; Fanon/Anime & Manga - Television Tropes & Idioms - TV Tropes: ; Fanon/WESTERNANIMATION - Television Tropes ... - TV Tropes: 737849;1404094450;mircea_popescu; mthreat, you should crawl the links in the logs and let us search them from the same interface << holy shit this is inception. 737850;1404094455;mircea_popescu;totally a good idea tho 737851;1404094547;mircea_popescu; wow paul graham doesn't appear to have published a pgp key. << why would he lol. 737852;1404094574;asciilifeform;can't use pgp and 'stand under the flag' pg stands under. 737853;1404094597;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: You can, but you can't advertise that you do 737854;1404094611;asciilifeform;déclassé - or, to a russian, западло. 737855;1404094782;BingoBoingo;%diff 737856;1404094785;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 365115.10 in 1367 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -28.62 737857;1404094815;mircea_popescu; the doge bet is now in play << sad story. 737858;1404094871;mircea_popescu; (usg) nsa needs to hire a new script writer << outsourced. 737859;1404094935;BingoBoingo;Outsourced, or that is the best that could make it through the committee meetings? 737860;1404094972;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: on the train home, i mentally sketched what the committee deliberations must have looked like. 737861;1404095015;asciilifeform;'we've a bunch of hooligans here. let's develop access agent.' 'what theme hooligans?' 'business theme.' 'is pg around? get him on the line' 737862;1404095019;mircea_popescu; woman: 'i am member of anonymous11! i support wikileaks! but i haven't any idea how to program, i write poetry.' << shoulda asked her "how do you know ?" 737863;1404095041;asciilifeform;'can you play the cello?' 'don't know, never tried' 737864;1404095086;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.03079906 = 3.0799 BTC [-] 737865;1404095087;BingoBoingo;I can somewhat play the Wind equivalent of a cello (euphonium) 737866;1404095101;nubbins`;fun instrument 737867;1404095114;asciilifeform;euphonium: 737868;1404095116;asciilifeform;;;google we heil right in the fuehrer's face 737869;1404095117;gribble;Der Führer's Face - Full length - YouTube: ; Spike Jones Der Fuehrer's Face - YouTube: ; Der Fuehrer's Face - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 737870;1404095181;asciilifeform;'Iz this Nutzi land so good / Would you leave it if you could / Ja, this Nutzi land is good / Ve would leave it if we could!' 737871;1404095223;mircea_popescu;!up clue 737872;1404095266;mircea_popescu;"The myth started after The Polymath Poet aka Christine Ann Sands aka WikiPoet acquired a park permit for the Washington, DC Million Mask March." 737873;1404095267;BingoBoingo;nubbins`: And this is the problem with your trumpet. It is the food that the real instruments eat. 737874;1404095272;nubbins`;:0 737875;1404095278;mircea_popescu;polymath ? is that like polyamory without cunnilingus ? 737876;1404095288;asciilifeform;actual english word 737877;1404095295;BingoBoingo;It's the English term for Goethe 737878;1404095296;asciilifeform;means something quite like 'encyclopaedist' 737879;1404095325;asciilifeform;the innocent word is not to blame here. 737880;1404095356;BingoBoingo;I've not seen the word consistently applied to anyone else 737881;1404095407;asciilifeform;l. davinci etc 737882;1404095415;asciilifeform;leibniz 737883;1404095420;asciilifeform;these folks. 737884;1404095437;punkman;it's greek not english 737885;1404095457;BingoBoingo;punkman: Nah, greek has better letters 737886;1404095514;mircea_popescu;dudes stop upping ninjaderp it makes the logs impossible. 737887;1404095532;punkman;hah 737888;1404095538;mthreat;!s foo -ninjaderp 737889;1404095539;assbot;0 results for 'foo+-ninjaderp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=foo%2B-ninjaderp 737890;1404095549;mthreat;negative searches ftw 737891;1404095554;*;asciilifeform politely requests that nsa send in a better grade of clown 737892;1404095579;mircea_popescu;"been a hundred years with Banksters at rule making money from sratch charge the interest to fools" << le esl ? 737893;1404095637;nubbins`;c'est un super esl 737894;1404095642;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: American "poetry" is like American comedy. Less focus on actual product and more on simply putting words and references in places. 737895;1404095653;asciilifeform;der wagen was decorated with a number of 'end the fed' stickers. apparently this is considered adequate crank bait. 737896;1404095679;mircea_popescu;<asciilifeform> lesson appears to be, nuttery does not entail originality. << quite. 737897;1404095722;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/06/black_dog_syndrome_are_people_racist_against_black_pets.html 737898;1404095722;assbot;Black Dog Syndrome: Are people racist against black pets? 737899;1404095730;nubbins`;heh 737900;1404095744;asciilifeform;mircea_popescu: while this cannot be seen in the grainy photos, the woman is, to back-translate the russian term, 'autumnal' 737901;1404095753;asciilifeform;and so is very very hungry for attention. 737902;1404095766;nubbins`;bbl walk 737903;1404095818;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: from your link: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2014/06/dear_prudence_i_discovered_my_daughter_pleasuring_herself_with_a_hand_mixer.html?wpisrc=obnetwork 737904;1404095818;assbot;Dear Prudence: I discovered my daughter pleasuring herself with a hand mixer. 737905;1404095848;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Clickbait is about the only 'Murican art left 737906;1404095860;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform> 'we've a bunch of hooligans here. let's develop access agent.' 'what theme hooligans?' 'business theme.' 'is pg around? get him on the line' << lawl. hooliganism eh ? 737907;1404095899;asciilifeform;there's probably a suitably 'soviet' term used internally. 737908;1404095906;asciilifeform;i'll go with 'hooligan' as placeholder. 737909;1404095960;BingoBoingo;http://gawker.com/school-defends-calling-kindergartners-actions-sexual-m-1597629994 737910;1404095961;assbot;School Defends Calling Kindergartner's Actions "Sexual Misconduct" 737911;1404096053;mircea_popescu; actual english word << i know what it means, but i also never met a von newman that couldn't code. 737912;1404096123;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.01862503 = 0.5215 BTC [+] {3} 737913;1404096128;asciilifeform;generally, you'll find the same kind of folks calling themselves 'polymath' as 'hero.' 737914;1404096134;asciilifeform;'hero for hire!' 737915;1404096136;mircea_popescu;or napoleon 737916;1404096167;asciilifeform;word is, asylums used to stock tricorn hats to issue to 'napoleons.' 737917;1404096175;mircea_popescu;lol 737918;1404096175;asciilifeform;bicorn? 737919;1404096180;mircea_popescu;bicorn yeah 737920;1404096196;asciilifeform;wonder if they issue tricorns to 'jeffersons' and 'washingtons' here. 737921;1404096204;mircea_popescu;or mozarts 737922;1404096210;asciilifeform;lol 737923;1404096449;BingoBoingo;http://www.azfamily.com/video/raw/Raw-video-ASU-professor-arrested-after-struggle-with-police-265002461.html 737924;1404096449;assbot;Raw video: ASU professor arrested after struggle with police | azfamily.com Phoenix 737925;1404096514;mircea_popescu;anyway, re teller, he did have important contributions. beta decay etc. 737926;1404096550;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.03079906 = 3.0799 BTC [-] 737927;1404096563;asciilifeform;teller was an actual person, but haunted for his entire life for failing to have actually done the one thing he was famous for. 737928;1404096604;mircea_popescu;i dunno, afaik he was more haunted for having dared to piss on some random jew 737929;1404096610;mircea_popescu;whose accomplishments currently escape me 737930;1404096624;mircea_popescu;what did oppenheimer do, other than derp about peace and assorted libertard bullshit ? 737931;1404096683;asciilifeform;quantum tunneling? 737932;1404096704;asciilifeform;want physicist turned derpmeister? try sakharov 737933;1404096714;asciilifeform;the ultimate case study in brain rot 737934;1404096725;mircea_popescu;a yes, qt. but anyway! 737935;1404096735;BingoBoingo;My favorite is Slotin, the Incredible Hulk. 737936;1404096760;mircea_popescu;didn't he drop the berylium ? 737937;1404096799;BingoBoingo;Sure, then he pulled the demon core apart as it was critical 737938;1404096845;mircea_popescu;"He developed an antagonistic relationship with his tutor, Patrick Blackett, who was only a few years his senior. While on vacation, as recalled by his friend Francis Fergusson, Oppenheimer once confessed that he had left an apple doused with noxious chemicals on Blackett's desk. While Ferguson's account is the only detailed version of this event, Oppenheimer's parents were alerted by the university authorities who con 737939;1404096846;mircea_popescu;sidered placing him on probation, a fate prevented by his parents successfully lobbying the authorities." 737940;1404096850;mircea_popescu;o look, oppenheimer dirt. 737941;1404096871;asciilifeform;afaik it's no secret the fellow was a snake 737942;1404096884;asciilifeform;question, for historians - what kind of snake 737943;1404096914;BingoBoingo;My favorite part of the Slotin story is Man makes mistake. Man pays for mistake. 737944;1404096931;BingoBoingo;Core still detonates years later. 737945;1404096937;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform from what i recall, the mentall ill sort. 737946;1404097221;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8962 @ 0.0008285 = 7.425 BTC [-] 737947;1404097756;asciilifeform;i forget who asked, and why, but http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt 737948;1404097774;asciilifeform;(kako's search gizmo still broken?) 737949;1404097794;mircea_popescu;yeah, none of that guy's stuff ever works 737950;1404097799;asciilifeform;lol 737951;1404097855;mthreat;asciilifeform: I think he fixed the url-encoding problem 737952;1404097863;BingoBoingo;%d 737953;1404097904;kakobrekla;asciilifeform its mthreats gizmo and it doesnt have to do with url encoding 737954;1404097911;asciilifeform;aha ok 737955;1404097928;BingoBoingo;%d 737956;1404097931;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 369013.42 in 1356 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -27.86 737957;1404097933;mircea_popescu;doubleplusnogood 737958;1404097938;BingoBoingo;%tslb 737959;1404097939;atcbot;-1 hours 41 minutes and 33 seconds 737960;1404097949;asciilifeform;-1 ?! 737961;1404097954;BingoBoingo;^ OMG Future Block times!!!! 737962;1404097956;kakobrekla;!s *ninjashogun.txt 737963;1404097957;assbot;Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%2Aninjashogun.txt 737964;1404097964;kakobrekla;isnt it * 737965;1404097978;mod6;sometimes it gets wacked out on the time... it /had/ been working better. will look into... 737966;1404098008;kakobrekla;mthreat how do you find that url by the filename ? 737967;1404098137;benkay;i need a caning 737968;1404098148;benkay;i just spent 2.5 hours on the phone with ninjashogun 737969;1404098164;BingoBoingo;What the everloving fuck did you do benkay 737970;1404098205;asciilifeform;re: louis slot and his jamming screwdriver into slot << even more appropriate name, E. Забабахин (Zababakhin) - one of the authors of the russian h-bomb. roughtly 'bringer of big boom' 737971;1404098208;BingoBoingo;No useful background check ever happened over the phone 737972;1404098278;asciilifeform;benkay: in the name of lucifer the all-merciful - why!? 737973;1404098280;benkay;i finally beat into his head that -assets only cares about btc investments that return in btc, that he has no trust and so cannot raise funds here 737974;1404098288;benkay;hey asciilifeform you've done it too get off my case 737975;1404098295;asciilifeform;lol 737976;1404098305;benkay;k i'm going to spend quality time with the lady 737977;1404098315;BingoBoingo;Not on phone though. You could have at least got him on webcam with a speculum and maglite 737978;1404098320;benkay;the only cure for that waste of time is TITS. 737979;1404098327;benkay;hue hue hue 737980;1404098330;benkay;moar buttcoins. 737981;1404098331;benkay;o 737982;1404098333;benkay;o/ 737983;1404098365;BingoBoingo;Treat your illness with tits benkay, I expect a blag about this eventually though 737984;1404098379;mthreat;kakobrekla: there isn't a specific way to search for filenames... just try to search for a token in the filename, or use a prefix search like "foo*" 737985;1404098389;mthreat;kakobrekla: but suffix searches like "*foo" don't work 737986;1404098408;kakobrekla;eh? 737987;1404098432;mthreat;!s ninjashogun txt 737988;1404098432;assbot;0 results for 'ninjashogun+txt' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ninjashogun%2Btxt 737989;1404098450;mthreat;!s ninjashogun 737990;1404098451;assbot;1347 results for 'ninjashogun' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ninjashogun 737991;1404098499;kakobrekla;alright, as long the limits are clear 737992;1404098509;mthreat;!s ninjashogun.txt 737993;1404098509;assbot;5 results for 'ninjashogun.txt' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ninjashogun.txt 737994;1404098516;mthreat;^ that's the best bet 737995;1404098538;kakobrekla;ah so it does work 737996;1404098557;asciilifeform;i caution anyone who has not read this document, but wishes to - that a strong stomach is a must. 737997;1404098582;kakobrekla;its not so bad 737998;1404098643;BingoBoingo;FU ROFL COPTERS!!! https://atc.waroflife.com/minigame/255/ 737999;1404098644;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 738000;1404098691;asciilifeform;kakobrekla: i admit that when i first posted it, i expected mr spam to cry evil libel, deny that the words were his. 738001;1404098968;kakobrekla;and i admit i wasnt expecting him back 738002;1404098999;asciilifeform;persistent bugger 738003;1404099018;asciilifeform;with the 'mark of madness, expecting different result from same approach' 738004;1404099035;kakobrekla;well, he did get into wot! 738005;1404099068;asciilifeform;here's to more successes of this kind by our phriend. 738006;1404099073;kakobrekla;lol 738007;1404099078;BingoBoingo;;;rated ninjashogun 738008;1404099078;gribble;You rated user ninjashogun on Sun Jun 29 19:31:19 2014, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable. 738009;1404099093;BingoBoingo;;;gettrust assbot ninjashogun 738010;1404099094;gribble;WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014 738011;1404099149;asciilifeform;one pinch of salt should suffice for slug. for anyone unfamiliar with the matter, 'ninjashogun.txt' speaks for itself. 738012;1404099186;asciilifeform;(if anyone wants to mirror the epic, be my guest) 738013;1404099214;asciilifeform;sha256: 0a289db22cfb90ccd84c609a70e1188b75086b9ebcde062aa5bf5bc54a9c7da3 ninjashogun.txt 738014;1404099260;BingoBoingo;Diatomecious Earth has a similar effect, but it cuts during the process 738015;1404099295;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00083047 = 3.1143 BTC [+] 738016;1404099442;mod6;%tslb 738017;1404099442;atcbot;-1 hours 35 minutes and 58 seconds 738018;1404099458;mod6;gah this damn bug.. 738019;1404099461;*;mod6 shakes fist. 738020;1404099479;Blazedout419;just use gribble 738021;1404099482;Blazedout419;;;tslb 738022;1404099486;gribble;Time since last block: 9 minutes and 17 seconds 738023;1404099497;mod6;this is for atc. 738024;1404099510;Blazedout419;no clue what ATC is 738025;1404099531;Blazedout419;is that an alt coin? 738026;1404099550;BingoBoingo;Blazedout419: It is Altcoin as opposed to an altcoin 738027;1404099569;BingoBoingo;Blazedout419: http://www.therealaltcoin.org/ 738028;1404099570;assbot;The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again. 738029;1404099606;BingoBoingo;Blazedout419: https://atc.waroflife.com/ and http://atc.blockr.io/ 738030;1404099607;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 738031;1404099611;mod6;this thing always tries to make the jump to lightspeed when there is a block that is "right now" 738032;1404099639;BingoBoingo;blockr.io seems to have the same issue 738033;1404099657;mod6;i've been trying to get this to play nice for weeks. 738034;1404099661;mod6;failblog 738035;1404099740;mod6;i'll fix it somehow. damn thing. 738036;1404099741;BingoBoingo;Eh, maybe a legacy coingen problem 738037;1404099742;*;mod6 kicks atcbot 738038;1404099785;mod6;life is getting crushed on game #10 738039;1404099805;BingoBoingo;FU, Life is going to live. 738040;1404099835;BingoBoingo;Although I finally put a hedge down and bought some death shares 738041;1404099860;mod6;it's a pretty cool game 'eh 738042;1404099878;BingoBoingo;I'm a big fan of the chaos vs. order minigame 738043;1404099911;BingoBoingo;;;google butters professor chaos 738044;1404099912;gribble;Professor Chaos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Professor Chaos - South Park Studios: ; Professor Chaos - Video Clips - South Park Studios: 738045;1404099930;BingoBoingo;It's everything dice should have been 738046;1404100271;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00083145 = 14.4672 BTC [+] {2} 738047;1404100442;mod6;%tslb 738048;1404100443;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 738049;1404100449;BingoBoingo;%tslb 738050;1404100450;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 738051;1404100454;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45923 @ 0.00082716 = 37.9857 BTC [-] {4} 738052;1404100460;BingoBoingo;tslb 738053;1404100465;BingoBoingo;%tslb 738054;1404100466;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 738055;1404100539;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 738056;1404100540;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 598.88, Best ask: 598.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 598.88, 24 hour volume: 1636.28091395, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 601.79, 24 hour vwap: 596.87962411 738057;1404100702;BingoBoingo;Mar 20 21:01:58 we are talking a total of 100 milliseconds done in a blip of an eye at 4 AM 738058;1404100702;BingoBoingo;Mar 20 21:02:11 even if someone did see it at 4 AM, they would doubt their sanity << Best hours of my day 738059;1404100799;mod6;%tslb 738060;1404100800;atcbot;0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) 738061;1404100823;mod6;%ob 738062;1404100824;atcbot;30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160 738063;1404100911;benkay;motherfucker even had the temerity to ask how much cash survant james had on hand 738064;1404100917;benkay;the nerve! 738065;1404100968;BingoBoingo;Mar 20 21:17:52 (You're not going to like this answer, but for my suggested Version 2: Wifi has less trust implicit architecturally it is not possible to automount a usb keyboard over wifi. You woudl have to break the wifi protocol, or use it in an unintended way as a carrier for other internal data) << Moment he became an UnSavory Garnish 738066;1404101027;BingoBoingo;ninjashogun> Btw I'm not the only founder you guys have trolled and ninjashogun> I can dox someone else from -assets that you guys absolutely trolled, who is a real-world VC and multi-millionaire are quotes from latest PM'ing of me 738067;1404101184;BingoBoingo;I dunno if he really pays attention here, because of late we've been talking alot about Marc Andressussuusenuen. 738068;1404101197;BingoBoingo;Appologies on the spelling, but reality distortion field 738069;1404101314;benkay;hue hue hue i just got an email back from pg@ycombinator.com disavowing "robert viragh" 738070;1404101428;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt ) 738071;1404101428;BingoBoingo;!b 1 738072;1404101455;BingoBoingo;When he first mentioned the startup name I though he ould have been Colin. 738073;1404101491;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00082442 = 28.6074 BTC [-] {3} 738074;1404101513;BingoBoingo;;;later tell ninjashogun http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt 738075;1404101514;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738076;1404101654;asciilifeform;mr spam & his claims reminds me of 1st grade in ussr. kid-1: 'my father can beat up your father' kid-2: 'my father is a general!' kid-3: 'my father is a general and has own tank!' kid-4: 'well! my father...' 738077;1404101716;BingoBoingo;1st grade in USA not that long ago we just beat each other up to establish things 738078;1404101749;asciilifeform;the exchange described above usually happened in class, where you can't square off 738079;1404101781;BingoBoingo;You forget USA children are uncontrollable monsters 738080;1404101854;asciilifeform;one of the few interesting things about our local turdmeister is how his scriptwriter was supplied with a defective 'world build' narrative by the brass. e.g. that folks in this channel eat, sleep, jerk off to, the eternal dream of being uplifted into the vc circus 738081;1404101857;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00083173 = 31.0651 BTC [+] {2} 738082;1404101871;asciilifeform;e.g. the plot of american tv series 'silicon valley' 738083;1404101932;BingoBoingo;Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers 738084;1404102024;BingoBoingo;A canvas upon which the brass may project their insecurities 738085;1404102162;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00082748 = 10.2608 BTC [-] 738086;1404102480;mircea_popescu;<benkay> i need a caning << talk to moiety, she's gotta unionize after this 738087;1404102542;mircea_popescu; hey asciilifeform you've done it too get off my case << best argument ever 738088;1404102619;mircea_popescu;!up Lycerion 738089;1404102830;mircea_popescu; Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers << it wouldn't surprise me if stoics were indeed the majority. 738090;1404102853;asciilifeform;'if only one could slake hunger by rubbing stomach.' 738091;1404102875;mircea_popescu;that's the different sort. cynics. 738092;1404102878;asciilifeform;aye 738093;1404102882;*;asciilifeform happy cynic 738094;1404102891;mircea_popescu;not so sure how many hedonists we got really. 738095;1404102921;asciilifeform;if cynic must watch for falling turtle - what does stoic watch for ? 738096;1404103001;BingoBoingo;mircea_popescu: My point is how many here other than the brazen and very old to the BTC game have secret fortunes that could be easily or completely enumerated by an outsider. 738097;1404103053;mircea_popescu;asciilifeform stoic doesn't watch, stoic sleeps 738098;1404103059;BingoBoingo;To a ninjashogun we can be very poor indeed. To anyone we enter an OTC trade with we can have a bit more than exactly enough to trasnact. 738099;1404103293;mircea_popescu;so i'm going to check out uruguay. if i don't show up for a day or so, don't panic, i still love you. 738100;1404103312;assbot;Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3WY2JDX.txt ) 738101;1404103312;BingoBoingo;!b 1 738102;1404103318;asciilifeform;what's noteworthy in uruguay ? 738103;1404103329;asciilifeform;or - just because it's there 738104;1404103360;BingoBoingo;A little of column B, a little there's girls there is prolly the mix 738105;1404103362;mircea_popescu;strategy's strategy. 738106;1404103398;BingoBoingo;;;google uruguay tits 738107;1404103399;gribble;Tits-fashion Uruguay | Facebook: ; Tits-fashion Uruguay - Photos | Facebook: ; TITS fashion Uruguay (TITSFashion) on Twitter: 738108;1404103614;BingoBoingo;In other news, there is a downside to restoring and seasoning ancient cast iron... Suddenly you get a hunger for everything in the fridge and freezer. 738109;1404103687;BingoBoingo;Fry 3 pounds of shrimp, sure. throw two pounds of those in an 8 egg omlette? Why the fuck not. 738110;1404103748;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082422 = 3.3793 BTC [-] 738111;1404103818;BingoBoingo;Once I get through the mess of leftovers I might finally get to start training these skillets on old favorites like headcheese scrambled in eggs. 738112;1404104002;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: secret fortunes << lol 738113;1404104019;*;asciilifeform owns proverbial 'last shirt' 738114;1404104156;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I imagine for ~90% of people who have BTC fortunes an aren't retards with ridiculous burn rates, they wait for the terraforming wrought by more adventurous holders 738115;1404104331;BingoBoingo;Mar 20 21:52:16 On the other hand for text analysis reasons I don't think he should post even anonymized quotes. Most people's writing is extremely characteristic << The UnSavory Garnish reveals he is indeed a Vegetable 738116;1404104414;BingoBoingo;My greatest hope for the week is that I find I can begin working at a library for dollars, cutting the BTC burn rate to below zero 738117;1404104430;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo is running on batteries ? 738118;1404104442;BingoBoingo;Sand 738119;1404104465;BingoBoingo;I run on entropy like any good crypto process 738120;1404104489;BingoBoingo;"happy accidents" 738121;1404104581;BingoBoingo;I tire of "happy accidents" though, last year held too many. 738122;1404104663;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00082529 = 6.9704 BTC [+] 738123;1404104822;BingoBoingo;There is exactly one sort of happy Accident I can suggest happens with some certainty if anyone needs such a thing. 738124;1404104874;BingoBoingo;How to cover such a thing is an exercise for people who study these things. 738125;1404104947;BingoBoingo;But, due to name, anytime line betting operators give Serena William's opponent decimal odds less than 10, there is opportunity to either have or create a "happy accident" 738126;1404105092;BingoBoingo;This particular "happy accident" has reliably worked since last summer. Implementation as always though is ledt to the reader to their ability. 738127;1404105147;kakobrekla;http://coinurl.com/ads/banner/5350dde3330d7544752266_CEX-Referral%20728x90.png 738128;1404105161;kakobrekla;how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam" 738129;1404105164;asciilifeform;lol 738130;1404105172;asciilifeform;didn't say profitable 'for whom' 738131;1404105177;BingoBoingo;lol 738132;1404105181;kakobrekla;myea i guess. 738133;1404105203;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet. 738134;1404105218;BingoBoingo;Between the lines I never suppose a necessary second ot third party asciilifeform 738135;1404105267;asciilifeform;do i misunderstand - to win in a bet, some fellow has to bet on... other sid 738136;1404105268;asciilifeform;e 738137;1404105273;BingoBoingo;Only the happy accident of seeing an overpriced big name attract too much money to her side and the profit of whoever takes it 738138;1404105313;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: of course if it is indeed a bet, but what if one wants to turn ancient, yet heretofore deniable coins liquid? 738139;1404105413;BingoBoingo;You move the ancient coins in a way that feigns a rougue BTC sports book, withdraw as apportunity presents and record that for the soldering iron. 738140;1404105430;BingoBoingo;At some point the book you played on folds... 738141;1404105437;asciilifeform;beats buying miners... 738142;1404105463;BingoBoingo;And the ancient coins slumber again for a while. 738143;1404105507;BingoBoingo;How much effort and time goes into the pretense of happy accidents is a test of one's tolerance for rectal heating. 738144;1404105524;asciilifeform;incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange? 738145;1404105534;BingoBoingo;Which one? 738146;1404105544;asciilifeform;the one operated purely by magic transactions 738147;1404105561;BingoBoingo;There's like 100 of those nao. 738148;1404105570;asciilifeform;wait where? 738149;1404105584;BingoBoingo;Open Transactions. 738150;1404105596;BingoBoingo;Start a server, trade with yourself. 738151;1404105616;asciilifeform;not sure if this is the same thing 738152;1404105619;BingoBoingo;Oh, knotwork isn't here nao 738153;1404105637;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: It isn't but I offered the more deniable choice. 738154;1404105665;asciilifeform;idea was, you send, e.g. some btc to addr A, in n parcels. low bits of the parcels encode, e.g. an ltc address. to which the corresponding amount of ltc is then sent. 738155;1404105671;BingoBoingo;Open Transactions>Colored Coins> Mastercoin>NxT... 738156;1404105683;penguirker;New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/30/only-the-black-market-matters/ 738157;1404105693;asciilifeform;i described this here when first found the channel, somebody (mp?) said, 'this is being built' 738158;1404105694;BingoBoingo;I dunno that scheme 738159;1404105737;asciilifeform;afaik it was described only... here. 738160;1404105752;asciilifeform;idea being 'provably fair exchange' 738161;1404105784;BingoBoingo;Ive heard things like this described. OpenTransaction is the only close to working way I know to do this with yourself though. 738162;1404105850;asciilifeform;afaik that's just an attempt at a standard format for signing 'buy' & 'sell' proclamations ? 738163;1404105869;BingoBoingo;Honestly for all of the NxT and Mastercoin Derp, I think knotwork actually had the whole stack working well first on OT 738164;1404105886;asciilifeform;rather than an actual means of running exchange that can be operated purely through blockchain activity 738165;1404105887;BingoBoingo;The Base unit he chose, devcoin 738166;1404105901;*;asciilifeform is unfamiliar with the listed derps 738167;1404105921;BingoBoingo;Everyone needs to know a corner of derps 738168;1404106060;BingoBoingo;Honestly my biggest problem with a lot of the cryptocoin derps isn't that they don't know the history, but that they don't know how many corners the history has. 738169;1404106125;BingoBoingo;Much of the best 2012-2013 history at the advent of asics is samizdat 738170;1404106375;BingoBoingo;All of namecoin history is basically that. 738171;1404106431;BingoBoingo;For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible 738172;1404106547;BingoBoingo;;;later tell mike_c niggers.txt 738173;1404106547;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738174;1404106787;BingoBoingo;;; later tell mike_c seriously we need to have a talk about WoL 738175;1404106787;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738176;1404106928;BingoBoingo;;;later tell justusranvier Where have you been? I'll start polishing a hickory stick for you to use. 738177;1404106929;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738178;1404107042;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27883 @ 0.00082529 = 23.0116 BTC [+] 738179;1404107150;BingoBoingo;OMG Cryptsy DOGE and Vircurex DOGE are a parity at 44 satoshis per 738180;1404107476;justusranvier;BingoBoingo: ? 738181;1404107491;BingoBoingo;justusranvier: Your Blackmarket article. 738182;1404107499;justusranvier;What about it? 738183;1404107539;BingoBoingo;I look more at the Grey market, but... sympathize with you that the power of BTC as better money materializes first in areas that need money most. 738184;1404107575;justusranvier;It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking 738185;1404107653;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082529 = 3.3012 BTC [+] 738186;1404107657;BingoBoingo;Right. I just though it was timed with a conversation I was supposing wherein for some people the most profitable market might be a synthetic grey market against themselves 738187;1404107730;BingoBoingo;In other news justusranvier My brother's dog gets its stutches out tomorrow. My brother isn't a synthetic of you is he??? 738188;1404107815;justusranvier;That's creepy. 738189;1404107826;BingoBoingo;It happens. 738190;1404107836;BingoBoingo;You aren;t a dentist are you? 738191;1404107843;justusranvier;I am not a dentist 738192;1404107857;BingoBoingo;Then you aren't my brother and he is not you. 738193;1404107868;justusranvier;Good to know 738194;1404107869;BingoBoingo;Story for the dog injury differs a bit. 738195;1404107952;BingoBoingo;So, F. My brother and his wife's dog is mostly corgi, the rest other herding dogs. Plays alpha in all of his canine interactions or else spirals into depression. 738196;1404107986;BingoBoingo;Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)" 738197;1404108032;BingoBoingo;Frank walked by while the "puppy" was guarding a 'bear (stuffed animal)' under the coffee table. 738198;1404108070;BingoBoingo;The puppy bit F. the dog I think is cool. Details start getting vague. 738199;1404108137;BingoBoingo;F. goes to the vet gets stitched. Pitbull mix lives, because... I dunno why. 738200;1404108250;artifexd;;;ticker 738201;1404108251;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.25, Best ask: 613.26, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 613.25, 24 hour volume: 3782.25595179, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 618.7, 24 hour vwap: 603.100162552 738202;1404108275;BingoBoingo;I dunno why I think this is important (or do I WANT) the CIA/NSA/OMGWTFBBQ to think I am a drunk???? 738203;1404108313;justusranvier;Both of my dogs are bitches. They squabble fairly frequently, but don't need to draw blood. 738204;1404108344;BingoBoingo;What I know is that since I like F. the "puppy" would have been corrected more efficiently if I was there. F. weights just about 30 lbs... 738205;1404108354;BingoBoingo;Mostly hair 738206;1404108456;BingoBoingo;F. also has immaculate ettiquette around infants. 738207;1404108513;BingoBoingo;For some 80 lb pitbill puppy to lay teeth on F.... I regert not being there to treat him as one does a coyote. 738208;1404108610;BingoBoingo;Except. Coyotes seems to price risk well and leave when I piss on their favorite dumpsters. 738209;1404109083;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet. << Not much craft really, mostly pricing risk for puchase or sale\ 738210;1404109238;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082422 = 3.4617 BTC [-] 738211;1404109351;BingoBoingo;%ob 738212;1404109351;atcbot;30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160 738213;1404109355;BingoBoingo;%t 738214;1404109356;atcbot;[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 275 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 95k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222 738215;1404109419;BingoBoingo;http://oglaf.com/pomp/ 738216;1404109420;assbot;pomp 738217;1404109604;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.01304657 = 0.548 BTC [+] {3} 738218;1404109665;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.03799 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {2} 738219;1404109666;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00082418 = 35.4397 BTC [-] {2} 738220;1404110580;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.0008238 = 21.0069 BTC [-] {2} 738221;1404110824;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.19297246 = 2.3157 BTC [-] {6} 738222;1404110947;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 135 @ 0.03079906 = 4.1579 BTC [-] 738223;1404111190;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00082356 = 18.283 BTC [-] {3} 738224;1404111617;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00082613 = 10.2126 BTC [+] {2} 738225;1404111800;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00082762 = 8.4417 BTC [+] {2} 738226;1404112777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42250 @ 0.00082855 = 35.0062 BTC [+] {2} 738227;1404113447;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00083052 = 37.0412 BTC [+] {4} 738228;1404114423;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.038 = 1.52 BTC [+] {2} 738229;1404115827;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.03795895 = 4.3653 BTC [-] {3} 738230;1404116005;pankkake;why is sepa so slow :( 738231;1404116071;pankkake;btc goes +30 eur between the day I command the wire and now 738232;1404116099;pankkake;that's actually why otc is nice, we fix the price before 738233;1404116439;jurov;otc does not use sepa? 738234;1404117723;pankkake;everytime I've bought, the price was fixed beforehand 738235;1404117754;pankkake;well my bank is closed today I think, so that won't be today either 738236;1404117900;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00082449 = 17.2731 BTC [-] 738237;1404117961;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00082406 = 34.7753 BTC [-] {4} 738238;1404118070;davout;hello -assets 738239;1404119794;ThickAsThieves;;;ticker 738240;1404119795;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.31, Best ask: 632.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 630.31, 24 hour volume: 8073.41651022, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 616.667553759 738241;1404119801;ThickAsThieves;i made the price go up! 738242;1404119813;Naphex;gz! 738243;1404119815;Naphex;:P 738244;1404119857;pankkake;https://twitter.com/oleganza/status/483256552938536960 that was a the top of reddit. someone still on twitter tell him to bitbet or stfu :) 738245;1404119858;assbot;Tomorrow US will announce auction winners for confiscated 30K bitcoins. I predict the price will be at least 3x the market (>$1800/btc). 738246;1404119889;ThickAsThieves;someone else redditted that they knew all the winning bids 738247;1404119895;ThickAsThieves;all bullshit 738248;1404119897;ThickAsThieves;pump! 738249;1404119913;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0379789 = 1.4812 BTC [+] {2} 738250;1404119970;jurov;pankkake i still don't understand. regardless if you sell at otc or on exchange, the moment sepa transfer is initiated, the price is fixed anyway 738251;1404119980;jurov;or do you have some trick for otc? 738252;1404120021;pankkake;jurov: I want to buy, but I can't because the wire isn't done yet 738253;1404120054;jurov;oh buying 738254;1404121072;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 170 @ 0.03381006 = 5.7477 BTC [-] {11} 738255;1404122170;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44392 @ 0.00082603 = 36.6691 BTC [+] {2} 738256;1404122841;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00082289 = 23.6169 BTC [-] 738257;1404123762;pankkake;;;later tell oleganza next time bet instead of twit http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ 738258;1404123762;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 10 hours ago 738259;1404123785;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738260;1404123884;fluffypony;ThickAsThieves: you mean this thread - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29geoq/i_have_a_friend_in_the_usms_and_i_know_the_sale/ 738261;1404123886;assbot;I have a friend in the USMS and I know the sale price. Ask me any details you want. : Bitcoin 738262;1404125830;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00082621 = 1.2046 BTC [+] 738263;1404127048;fluffypony;;;later tell moiety it arrived safely - and thanks for the sweets! 738264;1404127048;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738265;1404127051;fluffypony;;;rated moiety 738266;1404127052;gribble;You rated user moiety on Sat May 3 17:09:00 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: the Cat Lady of Bitcoin Assets. 738267;1404127096;fluffypony;;;rate moiety 3 handler of goods, logistician extraordinaire, lover of manuls 738268;1404127097;gribble;Rating entry successful. Your rating for user moiety has changed from 1 to 3. 738269;1404127147;fluffypony;http://i.imgur.com/wOkCtCK.jpg 738270;1404127153;fluffypony;can't believe they can jam 1tb into that 738271;1404127782;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.03205462 = 0.8655 BTC [-] {3} 738272;1404127843;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082974 = 3.9828 BTC [+] 738273;1404128015;pankkake;http://torrentfreak.com/parents-pirate-site-admin-sentenced-money-laundering-140628/ 738274;1404128015;assbot;Parents of Pirate Site Admin Sentenced For Money Laundering | TorrentFreak 738275;1404129368;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20509999 = 0.8204 BTC [+] {2} 738276;1404129978;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25002 @ 0.00082616 = 20.6557 BTC [-] {3} 738277;1404130039;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00082289 = 5.2237 BTC [-] 738278;1404131625;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 393 @ 0.00215227 = 0.8458 BTC [-] {3} 738279;1404131686;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 357 @ 0.00216405 = 0.7726 BTC [+] 738280;1404133908;mircea_popescu;kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam" << maybe you should be banned from reading advertisings. 738281;1404133987;ThickAsThieves;maybe the copywriter is dyslexic 738282;1404133998;mircea_popescu;Confirmed total: 15001 BTC << look at that, bitbet passed 15k bet 738283;1404134009;ThickAsThieves;grats! 738284;1404134107;ThickAsThieves;question, what if we don't find out what the coins were purchased for at auction today, and we have to wait for a FOIA request or such? (re: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/) 738285;1404134107;assbot;BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 13 hours ago 738286;1404134129;ThickAsThieves;bet has resolution date of today 738287;1404134797;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 6492 @ 0.00018905 = 1.2273 BTC [-] {26} 738288;1404134816;mircea_popescu;a ty 738289;1404134826;mircea_popescu;so we wait 738290;1404134842;mircea_popescu;there's precedent, some miner bet was delayed a week 738291;1404134993;punkman;how come nobody has made a brainwallet for GPG yet? however stupid that would be. 738292;1404135050;punkman;oh never mind, found it https://github.com/arttukasvio/deterministic 738293;1404135051;assbot;arttukasvio/deterministic GitHub 738294;1404135091;mircea_popescu;let me point out it'd be pretty stupid 738295;1404135093;pankkake;oh cool. I would have thought the ginormous key size prevented it 738296;1404135099;pankkake;why? 738297;1404135111;mircea_popescu;narrow keyspace 738298;1404135141;pankkake;lol the project has a web interface 738299;1404135145;mircea_popescu;jesus 738300;1404135149;punkman;all kinds of crap in there 738301;1404135154;mircea_popescu;anyway, you need about 9 or 10 dicelisted words. 738302;1404135162;mircea_popescu;as a bare minimum 738303;1404135245;ThickAsThieves;<+mircea_popescu> so we wait /// perfect, thx 738304;1404135343;pankkake;funny how the Cardano doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes 738305;1404135381;pankkake;mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack 738306;1404135462;ThickAsThieves;https://github.com/ronnix/oneid 738307;1404135462;assbot;ronnix/oneid GitHub 738308;1404135467;ThickAsThieves;i wonder what that is 738309;1404135590;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0127 = 0.508 BTC [+] 738310;1404135708;pankkake;just a read-only namecoin web frontend. like nameid.org 738311;1404135742;ThickAsThieves;didnt know about nameid.org 738312;1404135759;ThickAsThieves;just seeing if anyone has made a fancier WoT 738313;1404135781;pankkake;http://oneid.io/pankkake https://nameid.org/?name=pankkake 738314;1404135799;pankkake;doesn't really provide WoT, just unique identities 738315;1404135808;ThickAsThieves;word 738316;1404135891;ThickAsThieves;davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though... 738317;1404135956;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43800 @ 0.00083129 = 36.4105 BTC [+] {3} 738318;1404136191;pankkake;ThickAsThieves: you have a note waiting as "ThickasTheives" 738319;1404136203;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082851 = 15.4103 BTC [-] 738320;1404136293;ThickAsThieves;i think may have seen it 738321;1404136296;ThickAsThieves;;;notes 738322;1404136296;gribble;I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, bitcoinpete, buanzo, Cametam, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, iwilcox, moiety, mrbutler, ninjashogun, nubbins, oleganza, organofcorti, phelps, Phinnaeus, plezoh, princesnell, princessnell, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and tweeeaks. 738323;1404136304;ThickAsThieves;;;notes ThickasTheives 738324;1404136305;gribble;Sent 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, and 32 minutes ago: Altcoin is holding me back. 738325;1404136310;ThickAsThieves;hehe 738326;1404136340;ThickAsThieves;I'll tell Altcoin to ease up on ya BingoBoingo 738327;1404136536;ThickAsThieves;looks like someone did the FOIA already http://bitquant.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/bitcoin-foia-request/ 738328;1404136537;assbot;Bitcoin FOIA Request | bitquant 738329;1404136777;benkay; Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)" // lol some puppy 738330;1404136993;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.191 = 0.955 BTC [-] 738331;1404137467;ThickAsThieves;!up zoinky 738332;1404137471;ThickAsThieves;!up powergorilla 738333;1404137503;PowerGorilla;huh ty 738334;1404137519;zoinky;hello 738335;1404137530;ThickAsThieves;hello 738336;1404137919;asciilifeform;pankkake: doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes >> impatient man can, theoretically, make his own, just based on the description. 738337;1404137955;pankkake;http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/30/125207/julian-assange-plans-modeling-debut-at-london-fashion-show 738338;1404137957;assbot;Julian Assange Plans Modeling Debut At London Fashion Show - Slashdot 738339;1404138049;benkay;subject of dogs, my monster was just eating breakfast when something happened outside that caught his attention. he howled at it but with a throat full of food so it came out in this hilariously muffled "wooooOOoOooOOoo", after which he coughed his food up onto the floor, 'cause naturally the body doesn't like doing all of those things at the same time. 738340;1404138063;benkay;after the distraction passed, he went back to the pile of food on the floor and cleaned it up. 738341;1404138069;benkay;fucking disgusting, and yet. 738342;1404138072;benkay;<3 pooch 738343;1404138095;mike_c;benkay:;;later tell mike_c https://atc.waroflife.com/rules/minigame/1/ "this page" has no link. << oops. thx. 738344;1404138095;assbot;War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! 738345;1404138133;benkay;morning, mike. 738346;1404138139;mike_c;g'morning 738347;1404138205;benkay;Mats_cd03 738348;1404138210;Mats_cd03;hi qt 738349;1404138223;benkay;how you doin babe 738350;1404138225;benkay;get a job yet? 738351;1404138229;Mats_cd03;ya 738352;1404138258;Mats_cd03;boring job. still IT slave. 738353;1404138303;Mats_cd03;but...lots of free time at work to learn things i wanna do. like reversing 738354;1404138428;mike_c;;;later tell BingoBoingo i'm here, fire away 738355;1404138428;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738356;1404138560;[]bot;Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ 738357;1404138786;[]bot;Bet created: "Yen to strengthen against Dollar" http://bitbet.us/bet/975/ 738358;1404139250;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00083232 = 13.0674 BTC [+] 738359;1404139392;ThickAsThieves;!up mp_on_a_boat 738360;1404139401;mp_on_a_boat;o hai 738361;1404139406;ThickAsThieves;hey hey 738362;1404139422;mp_on_a_boat;;;ticker 738363;1404139423;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.07, Best ask: 621.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 621.0, 24 hour volume: 11302.36777974, 24 hour low: 592.01, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 618.817826703 738364;1404139440;mp_on_a_boat;so is it going all the way to 670 prior to usms disclosure ? 738365;1404139465;ThickAsThieves;hard to say, but i think we'll have more uppage 738366;1404139488;ThickAsThieves;no idea if auction winners an dprice will be shared today 738367;1404139670;mp_on_a_boat;http://d1pylxt2kmk9m6.cloudfront.net/assets/fleet/vessel-01-01-c7bdc0b1d7e39412b0bd8f5b7347986d.jpg 738368;1404139678;mp_on_a_boat;norwegian made they say 738369;1404139707;asciilifeform;mp_on_a_boat: yours? or chartered 738370;1404139722;mp_on_a_boat;nah, normal ferry service 738371;1404139843;asciilifeform;when do we get mp_on_atomic_dirigible ?! 738372;1404139976;mp_on_a_boat;only after we have an airforce. 738373;1404139996;mp_on_a_boat;wtf, i dun wanna be flying around in the clay pigeon 738374;1404140012;asciilifeform;lol 738375;1404140084;mp_on_a_boat;o boy such log. 738376;1404140104;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97855 @ 0.00083262 = 81.476 BTC [+] {2} 738377;1404140128;mp_on_a_boat;BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible << why ? 738378;1404140140;pankkake;dirigibles don't work on the moon 738379;1404140190;mp_on_a_boat;justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking << complex. take one of the largest scams out there, the LVHM conglomerate. 738380;1404140318;mp_on_a_boat;they pretend to sell to the shrinking market (young hawt chicks) to then sell inclusion to the growingt market (ugly fat broads) 738381;1404140388;pankkake;pretend to sell to the rich, sell to the poor 738382;1404140461;mp_on_a_boat;yeap 738383;1404140474;fluffypony;BEST BELIEVE HE'S ON A MOTHERFUCKING BOAT, YO 738384;1404140485;fluffypony;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU&feature=kp 738385;1404140485;assbot;I'm On A Boat (ft. T-Pain) - Album Version - YouTube 738386;1404140499;Apocalyptic;lol 738387;1404140500;mp_on_a_boat;you threatenin; me ? 738388;1404140532;pankkake;fluffypony: oh, that's maybe why this on a boat was tingling me 738389;1404140532;fluffypony;mp_on_a_boat: you gotta listen to that song, but probably not around children 738390;1404140553;mp_on_a_boat;a ok. well there's these blondy 6yos running all around. 738391;1404140554;mp_on_a_boat;safe ? 738392;1404140571;fluffypony;as long as they don't understand the word "fuck" it's fine 738393;1404140574;fluffypony;or you have headphones 738394;1404140580;mp_on_a_boat;yeah, right. this exists. 738395;1404140694;Apocalyptic;fluffypony, gotta love the lyrics 738396;1404140696;Apocalyptic;so deep 738397;1404140713;fluffypony;Apocalyptic: ikr, it's the very meaning of life right there 738398;1404140717;fluffypony;right thurrrrr 738399;1404140729;Apocalyptic;I feel ya 738400;1404140737;pankkake;this boat is real! 738401;1404140748;mp_on_a_boat;dude this sucks. when did this rebellion happen when all o youze are doing the porn and im all nsfFw 738402;1404140783;fluffypony;oh speaking of which, there was a cheap porn star / photographer at the conference 738403;1404140784;pankkake;I was surprised the image you posted was SFW 738404;1404140789;fluffypony;http://twitter.com/giajordan 738405;1404140790;assbot;gia jordan (giajordan) auf Twitter 738406;1404140834;pankkake;did you tell her she could get 0.1 BTC easily? 738407;1404140841;fluffypony;lol 738408;1404140845;fluffypony;I avoided talking to her 738409;1404140861;mp_on_a_boat;why ? postcoital halitosis ? 738410;1404140932;fluffypony;mp_on_a_boat: nah, she just wasn't one of those fun pornstars, she was one of those still-at-the-bottom-looking-for-a-rich-boyfriend types 738411;1404140943;asciilifeform;mp_on_a_boat: why'd you snip the end off the cocksnipper tale? it has a proper end. 738412;1404140945;fluffypony;and she had an annoying accent 738413;1404140948;justusranvier;mp_on_a_boat: There are always outliers. Imagine a hypothetical experiment where you start 100 companies with the goal of capturing growning shares of shriking markets, and another 100 companies that try to gain market share in growing markets, and at the end see which group ends up better on average. 738414;1404140950;fluffypony;from LA or something 738415;1404140955;mp_on_a_boat;fluffypony, lol ok. 738416;1404140958;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00083296 = 15.0766 BTC [+] 738417;1404140961;mp_on_a_boat;asciilifeform, ah ? 738418;1404140981;asciilifeform;maybe it was tacked on after you translated 738419;1404140987;mp_on_a_boat;justusranvier, i think that arrangement may suffer from statistical problems i don't readily grasp. 738420;1404141000;mp_on_a_boat;asciilifeform, ah in romanian ? meh, that part was retarded. 738421;1404141012;mp_on_a_boat;curating children mostly consists of discretely snipping the stupid parts. 738422;1404141021;asciilifeform;lol 738423;1404141112;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/871/ Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.7251147 BTC. Current weight: 84,941. 738424;1404141164;mp_on_a_boat;funny how redditarded the redditafrds are. guy has priviledged unpublic information, what does he do, are we asked to believe ? 738425;1404141184;asciilifeform;'pump.' 738426;1404141193;mp_on_a_boat;a) puts it on reddit, to gain redditard fame worth 0.00x ltc ; b) bets on bitbet, mto gain whatever it is by now 738427;1404141210;asciilifeform;!up mp_on_a_boat 738428;1404141235;mp_on_a_boat;shame on you assbot! 738429;1404141365;mp_on_a_boat;pankkake: mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack << win. 738430;1404141412;mp_on_a_boat;ThickAsThieves: davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though... << sounds like chip only. 738431;1404141447;asciilifeform;chip only << it really isn't hard to mount these yourself. odd that no one has fessed up to doing so. 738432;1404141509;asciilifeform;(all you need is a reflow oven. can buy chinese for around $1k (USD) or build the classical recipe from old toaster) 738433;1404141530;asciilifeform;(and, optionally, a dentist's xray tube) 738434;1404141542;mp_on_a_boat;benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ? 738435;1404141713;mp_on_a_boat;Those of us who do not participate in the underground economy are often unaware of its breadth: it grew to include one half of the worlds workers by 2009, and is projected to include two-thirds of workers by 2020. << this is important. i make it a point to contribute whenever possible. my cards here for instance ? paid cash, no paper trail, 20% discount for me and so another hundred bucks added to the free world. 738436;1404141732;mp_on_a_boat;because make no mistake about it, what the scum of this world calls "black market" is actually the free world. 738437;1404141773;mp_on_a_boat;the bexzz 738438;1404141785;mp_on_a_boat;the bezzle economy is a crime against humanity. 738439;1404141862;mp_on_a_boat;anyway, excellent point from justusranvier. at this rate ima end up a negligible voice in this space or some shit. 738440;1404141896;mp_on_a_boat;"Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: Does this new thing improve the black market? 738441;1404141896;mp_on_a_boat;If the answer to this question is no, then the thing is useless." 738442;1404141900;mp_on_a_boat;i mean look at that shit. 738443;1404141947;benkay; benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ? // lol no sir 738444;1404141974;pankkake;didn't a few states start accounting for the black market in their GDP? 738445;1404141990;benkay;i've seen the odd near-puke mid bj, but that's not quite the same now 738446;1404142002;benkay;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/30/isis-announces-islamic-caliphate-iraq-syria 738447;1404142003;assbot;Isis announces Islamic caliphate in area straddling Iraq and Syria | World news | theguardian.com 738448;1404142011;justusranvier;pankkake: They'll soon have to, because within the next 5-19 years that will be the only economy 738449;1404142015;justusranvier;5-10 738450;1404142034;*;justusranvier has difficulty typing right now due to a broken thumb 738451;1404142043;Apocalyptic;pankkake, didn't France too ? 738452;1404142049;pankkake;http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/07/spains-black-market-economy-is-worth-20-of-its-gdp/277840/ that was a year ago 738453;1404142050;assbot;Spain's Black Market Economy Is Worth 20% of Its GDP - Roberto A. Ferdman - The Atlantic 738454;1404142066;pankkake;I don't know, I heard it on the radio while waking up, so I'm fuzzy on who did it 738455;1404142069;Apocalyptic;gotta inflate the number somehow to show growth am I right 738456;1404142070;mp_on_a_boat;they can count it lal the want 738457;1404142083;mp_on_a_boat;my neighboiurs are counting all the girls vcoming up to my floor too. 738458;1404142088;Apocalyptic;Italy did it for sure 738459;1404142101;Apocalyptic;and afaik it was some UE-wide recommendation 738460;1404142183;mp_on_a_boat;anyway, off i go. late trall! 738461;1404142361;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00083105 = 43.8379 BTC [-] {3} 738462;1404142809;thestringpuller;mp is on a boat? 738463;1404142815;thestringpuller;...i should buy a boat... 738464;1404142971;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03571 = 0.7142 BTC [+] 738465;1404143033;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19101174 = 0.573 BTC [+] {2} 738466;1404143132;benkay;zero ev boat 738467;1404143219;thestringpuller;benkay is just a hater 738468;1404143251;thestringpuller;justusranvier: you can get anything on the black market lol 738469;1404143277;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00083016 = 8.3016 BTC [-] {2} 738470;1404143540;*;asciilifeform as a boy thought 'black market' was an actual market, that one could actually go to. because, at the time and place... it was. 738471;1404143566;BigBitz;TradeFortress in -otc :) 738472;1404143858;dignork;asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange? << I've seen some theoretical solution - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Atomic_cross-chain_trading 738473;1404143858;assbot;Atomic cross-chain trading - Bitcoin 738474;1404144008;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 3.50000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 8750 satoshi per share 738475;1404144064;asciilifeform;dignork: there is no actual need for the specialized altchain 738476;1404144102;dignork;yep, but first solution doesn't need one 738477;1404144153;asciilifeform;dignork: unless i misunderstand - btc protocol as presently implemented cannot do this 738478;1404144166;asciilifeform;'if (x for H(x) known and signed by B)' 738479;1404144313;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share 738480;1404144313;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00083012 = 8.7163 BTC [-] 738481;1404144440;dignork;asciilifeform: it's non-standard tx, but i think it's a valid script 738482;1404144505;benkay;did y'all see the "sleep as competitive advantage" link on the nyt today? 738483;1404144564;dignork;asciilifeform: https://blockchain.info/tx/15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc << spent by secret word(s) 738484;1404144565;assbot;Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc 738485;1404144637;mthreat;benkay: just saw it but didn't read it, is it good? 738486;1404144658;benkay;meh. 738487;1404144706;benkay;the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. 738488;1404144801;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082978 = 27.4657 BTC [-] {2} 738489;1404144917;mthreat;my goal is always 8 hours a night 738490;1404144923;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39962 @ 0.00082881 = 33.1209 BTC [-] {2} 738491;1404145113;kakobrekla; the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. < mine had that idea at some point as well. now i go to sleep when she wakes up. 738492;1404145258;benkay;pfshaha 738493;1404145267;benkay;what - do you not actually want to spend any time with her? 738494;1404145282;xmj;there'll still be an overlap of 8 hours wake time 738495;1404145292;xmj;or 12, depending how much kakobrekla sleeps. 738496;1404145294;kakobrekla;i do, just 16 a day is way way too much 738497;1404145397;xmj;bingo 738498;1404145540;thestringpuller;isn't 8 hours the norm? 738499;1404145544;thestringpuller;and sleep debt 738500;1404145907;benkay;ah, kakobrekla you and she are both in the house all day then? 738501;1404146016;benkay;now - for my favorite part of django archaeology: why is this code that should be getting called not getting called? 738502;1404146267;kakobrekla;benkay mostly. she works at home and i, well, you know me. 738503;1404146509;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+] 738504;1404146511;BingoBoingo;;;later tell mircea_popescu mp_on a boat To experiment with blockchain bloat. Thankfully NMC miners don't like big transactions 738505;1404146512;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738506;1404146939;mike_c;hey bingo. 738507;1404146966;mike_c;you had feedback from your wol binge? 738508;1404147180;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00082821 = 14.7835 BTC [-] {2} 738509;1404147424;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+] 738510;1404147478;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Yeah. I'm noticing the bomb mechanics seem vulnerable to last minute sniping with a bid one unit higher. I dunno if time weight or maybe making bomb type a chance based on the size of life or death pools might make things more interesting 738511;1404147546;punkman;mike_c: about bomb sniping, you could let people bid in advance (maybe with some limit logic), so they don't have to watch until the last minute 738512;1404147557;mike_c;problem with making it odds based on pool is that it offers reducing incentive to contribute. i fell on the side of winner take all being more interesting. i am not married to it though. 738513;1404147559;BingoBoingo;Also mike_c How sure are you that the decimal odds on the order/chaos minigame are... correct. 738514;1404147581;mike_c;the site's not broke yet :) 738515;1404147590;BingoBoingo;Cool 738516;1404147648;punkman;mike_c, I'd love another button that lets me step frame by frame 738517;1404147667;mike_c;punkman: well, bids are based on what makes it into a block. could you describe what you mean a bit? 738518;1404147681;mike_c;punkman: noted. 738519;1404147682;punkman;the animation, I want to watch it slowly 738520;1404147700;mike_c;got that. not sure what you meant about bomb-in-advance bidding 738521;1404147729;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.61231584 BTC to 10`784 shares, 14951 satoshi per share 738522;1404147785;punkman;like let me bid 50 on the last round before the next bomb, without having to wait for the Next Bomb timer go down to 1 or 2 738523;1404147849;mike_c;hm. i'll have to think through mechanics/implementation of that. seems like it would just make the bomb pot hidden until all the bets landed on the last frame. 738524;1404147860;BingoBoingo;That would be sweet 738525;1404147897;mike_c;would it? silent auction instead of open? 738526;1404147907;Apocalyptic;BingoBoingo, btw looks like your friend TF is back on IRC 738527;1404147931;punkman;mike_c, also in wishlist, simulate further rounds assuming no more bombs go off, probably not very useful, but it'd be nice to watch 738528;1404147944;BingoBoingo;Apocalyptic: Fuck it, I'm hung over. Anything that needed to be said has prolly been said already. 738529;1404147957;mike_c;punkman: that is actually very doable. it's on the list somewhere. 738530;1404147973;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00082694 = 33.0776 BTC [-] {2} 738531;1404147998;punkman;or maybe simulate with random bombs so it's different every time 738532;1404148016;mike_c;heh. that is more an excercise for the interested player. 738533;1404148026;punkman;why's the minigame so slow btw? 738534;1404148033;mike_c;to load you mean? 738535;1404148034;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0355 = 0.71 BTC [+] 738536;1404148061;punkman;is it one minigame at a time for everyone? 738537;1404148065;mike_c;no 738538;1404148076;punkman;slow to start game, place bets 738539;1404148091;punkman;can't lose my money fast enough! 738540;1404148098;mike_c;well that's a problem! 738541;1404148104;punkman;myeah 738542;1404148121;mike_c;a recognized one. it's currently a polling architecture. i want to switch it to sockets, which would speed it up. 738543;1404148143;pankkake;http://blog.paymium.com/2014/06/30/introducing-paymium-pay-with-bitcoin-merchant-solution/ 738544;1404148145;assbot;Introducing Paymium ‘Pay with Bitcoin’ Merchant Solution | Paymium 738545;1404148233;punkman;mike_c: great game btw, can't wait to see how it works with more players 738546;1404148259;mike_c;thanks. i am encouraged by early feedback. it will continue to get better. 738547;1404148370;punkman;mike_c, is there a reason it doesn't have any sort of time weight when buying shares? 738548;1404148390;mike_c;the weighting is different from time (and better imo). 738549;1404148401;mike_c;it's weighted by current board state. 738550;1404148408;punkman;yeah I see that 738551;1404148413;mike_c;so, for example in game 10, the best time to buy death was frame 1 738552;1404148421;mike_c;cuz now it's more expensive 738553;1404148434;mike_c;the best time to buy life is still to be determined. 738554;1404148474;mike_c;unless life storms back, in which case you could get death cheaper later. 738555;1404148507;mike_c;in any case, point is that there is a shifting balance that rewards paying attention at multiple points through the game as opposed to rewards just decreasing over time. 738556;1404148529;kakobrekla;making people think. always a dubious idea. 738557;1404148544;mike_c;heh. improved help is also on the list. i'm thinking video tutorials. 738558;1404148570;punkman;yeah but let's say death stays at %70 for the rest of the game. Someoney buying 1k ATC at year 950 gets the same amount as the guy that bought on year 437. Shouldn't the earlier guy win more? 738559;1404148626;mike_c;it's like an option. a guy who buys the option early is buying time value. 738560;1404148636;mike_c;now, in your case that time value didn't work out. 738561;1404148643;mike_c;doesn't mean he didn't have an advantage when he bought it 738562;1404148667;mike_c;in effect, he lost the bet that buying early would be advantageous 738563;1404148709;mike_c;see what happens when you get me blabbing about this? too much blabbing. 738564;1404148719;punkman;I see 738565;1404148730;benkay;wait this is too much blabbing? 738566;1404148738;mike_c;i gotz work to do! 738567;1404148746;benkay;this is not too much blabbing. the internals are v. interesting. 738568;1404148753;benkay;no no less code more talk 738569;1404148757;mike_c;but j/k, feedback is much desired. 738570;1404148846;mike_c;<+kakobrekla> making people think. always a dubious idea. << also, minigames require no thought :) 738571;1404148980;BingoBoingo;%d 738572;1404148982;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390045.54 in 1244 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.75 738573;1404149374;punkman;http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/barclays-not-smart 738574;1404149374;assbot;Barclays Not Smart - Bloomberg View 738575;1404149544;benkay;haw 738576;1404149737;BingoBoingo;"When you just put institutional investors in a pool that excludes high-frequency traders, they have a hard time trading with each other. There's not, it turns out, all that much natural liquidity." << This 738577;1404149812;davout;GOAAAAAL 738578;1404149848;davout;in the 2014 world cup it's the french that have urgent proposals for nigeria 738579;1404149866;mike_c;"The chart is a chart of how much chart there is." << lol 738580;1404150208;BingoBoingo;http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/06/facebook_experiments_on_users_they_ve_got_more_in_store.html 738581;1404150208;assbot;Facebook experiments on users: They’ve got more in store! 738582;1404150230;fluffypony;davout: from French princes? 738583;1404150416;pankkake;BingoBoingo: depends on what HFT means for them 738584;1404150840;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083127 = 9.144 BTC [+] 738585;1404151023;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.012892 = 0.5544 BTC [+] {3} 738586;1404152062;penguirker;New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/30/why-do-we-have-freedoms/ 738587;1404152680;bitstein;hey bitcoinpete 738588;1404152688;bitcoinpete;hey dude 738589;1404152740;bitstein;how's it going? 738590;1404152825;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29cz6c/im_tired_of_people_thinking_their_altcoins_are/cijz7gc 738591;1404152826;assbot;immibis comments on I'm tired of people thinking their altcoins are superior because they have shorter block times 738592;1404152830;fluffypony;I lol'd all the way through 738593;1404152894;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: lol dat thinking 738594;1404152922;bitcoinpete;bitstein: quite nicely, it's a beautiful, quiet day here 738595;1404152936;bitcoinpete;most people have the day off because tmrw is a holiday for canada day 738596;1404152943;bitcoinpete;how's it with you? 738597;1404152974;bitcoinpete;oh and rather looking forward to the germany game. just so they can score 1 more goal! 738598;1404153002;bitstein;lol canada day 738599;1404153014;fluffypony;bitcoinpete you're in Toronto right? 738600;1404153015;justusranvier;Has anyone done Brawndocoin yet? It's got electrolytes. 738601;1404153034;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: edmonton. gateway to the north ;) 738602;1404153035;fluffypony;justusranvier: it's got what plants crave? shut up and take my money! 738603;1404153055;justusranvier;Brawndocoin - the transaction mutilator. It's got what blockchains crave. 738604;1404153097;fluffypony;bitcoinpete: ah ok - Peter Todd was talking about the Bitcoin crowd in Toronto, made me think of you 738605;1404153153;bitcoinpete;a yes, the to crowd... 738606;1404153165;bitcoinpete;they do the "alliance" and "ethereum" schemes 738607;1404153219;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 47 @ 0.03509467 = 1.6494 BTC [-] {7} 738608;1404153234;bitstein;Very innovative. Much 2.0. 738609;1404153317;bitcoinpete;2.0: a euphemism for pre-mined pumps and dumps 738610;1404153327;fluffypony;I'm waiting for the Bitcoin Assets Foundation to start 738611;1404153329;bitcoinpete;http://www.bis.org/speeches/sp140629.pdf 738612;1404153419;bitcoinpete;"Most importantly, if they persist too long, ultra-low rates could validate and entrench a highly undesirable type of equilibrium – one of high debt, low interest rates and anaemic growth." 738613;1404153441;bitcoinpete;"Central bank balance sheets – including the Fed’s – have continued to expand and now exceed $20 trillion in aggregate, worldwide." 738614;1404153524;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00083185 = 27.4095 BTC [+] 738615;1404153617;bitcoinpete;Speech by Jaime Caruana, General Manager, Bank for International Settlements 738616;1404154205;penguirker;New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs%e6%9b%b4%e6%96%b0%e7%9a%87%e5%ae%b6%e5%9b%bd%e5%90%9b%e5%86%8d%ef%bc%8c%e4%b9%9f%e8%ae%b8%e6%9a%82%e6%97%b6%e8%bf%90%e8%be%93600gh%e6%a8%a1%e5%9e%8b/ 738617;1404154296;bitcoinpete;speaking of canada: http://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home 738618;1404154297;assbot;Canada's Law on Spam and Other Electronic Threats - Home - Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation 738619;1404154307;bitcoinpete;^goes into effect tmrw 738620;1404154329;bitcoinpete;all e-mails dealing with "commerce" require opt-in and proof of existing business relationship 738621;1404154339;bitcoinpete;or another reason to gpg 738622;1404154743;BingoBoingo;;;ticker 738623;1404154744;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.0, Best ask: 623.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 624.0, 24 hour volume: 11919.67750693, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 619.45166829 738624;1404154805;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00083168 = 23.0791 BTC [-] 738625;1404154813;bitcoinpete;;;nethash 738626;1404154814;gribble;119194939.289 738627;1404154824;bitcoinpete;;;bc,stats 738628;1404154827;gribble;Current Blocks: 308640 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1823 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15640182448.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.00587 738629;1404154833;bitcoinpete;weird.. 738630;1404154884;mike_c;it'll be a kick in the pants if diff is back under 14bn on bastille day. 738631;1404154948;TomServo;How so? 738632;1404154972;mike_c;bitbet was "on or before", so it already resolved. 738633;1404155000;mike_c;but for the no bettors, it would be irritating to be "right" but have lost. 738634;1404155003;TomServo;Ah - I thought you were implying it wasn't and there was a chance it could go the other way. 738635;1404155037;mike_c;not going to happen, but, bingo's summer heat theory may be playing out :) 738636;1404155189;BingoBoingo;mike_c: Right idea, implemented too early 738637;1404156513;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12820 @ 0.00083185 = 10.6643 BTC [+] 738638;1404156818;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.03212127 = 1.9273 BTC [-] {6} 738639;1404156879;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13241 @ 0.00083185 = 11.0145 BTC [+] 738640;1404156942;mthreat;https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/483692873855299584 738641;1404156944;assbot;Announcement: The SecondMarket / Bitcoin Investment Trust bidding syndicate for the US Marshals bitcoin auction was outbid on all blocks 738642;1404156959;BingoBoingo;Orly! 738643;1404156988;mthreat;https://twitter.com/alansilbert/status/483695027651346432 738644;1404156989;assbot;So basically at least USD$20MM of bitcoin buying demand went unsatisfied in the auction and will look elsewhere to buy bitcoins i.e. market 738645;1404156996;mthreat;are barry silbert and alan silbert related? 738646;1404157294;mthreat;shit, they are: http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/178_85/new-venture-aspires-to-be-the-sothebys-of-bitcoin-1058805-1.html 738647;1404157296;assbot;New Venture Aspires to Be the Sotheby s of Bitcoin - American Banker Article 738648;1404157304;mthreat;"His brother, Alan Silbert, will run BitPremier from Gaithersburg, Md." 738649;1404157342;penguirker;New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/30/the-book-that-sank-in/ 738650;1404157429;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79978 @ 0.00083127 = 66.4833 BTC [-] {5} 738651;1404157550;assbot;[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 570 @ 0.00218853 = 1.2475 BTC [-] 738652;1404157652;pankkake;%diff 738653;1404157654;atcbot;[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390697.91 in 1230 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.62 738654;1404157669;pankkake;pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere 738655;1404158132;benkay;;;google trilema discreet escort 738656;1404158132;gribble;The discreet escort, or how Bitcoin makes prostitution ... - Trilema: ; Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin ... - Trilema: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea (1 more message) 738657;1404158282;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34672 @ 0.00082641 = 28.6533 BTC [-] {3} 738658;1404158343;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9178 @ 0.00082531 = 7.5747 BTC [-] 738659;1404158382;bitcoinpete;fluffypony: what was todd saying about the torontonians? 738660;1404158404;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.01288984 = 0.5285 BTC [-] {4} 738661;1404158659;FabianB;$traded 738662;1404158659;empyex;FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY D.BTGO S.MPOE X.EUR 738663;1404158892;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1942 @ 0.00082531 = 1.6028 BTC [-] 738664;1404159045;ThickAsThieves;<+pankkake> pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere /// 512 is my spirit number 738665;1404159089;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: did a gypsy with money braided in her hair tell you that? 738666;1404159249;cgcardona;o/ hi bitcoin-assets 738667;1404159267;ThickAsThieves;no it came to me via cosmosis 738668;1404159299;benkay;hola cgcardona 738669;1404159320;bitcoinpete;cgcardona: how's island life these days? 738670;1404159326;cgcardona;Figured this would be as good a place as any to get some insight into the unfolding of the auction 738671;1404159330;cgcardona;benkay: o/ 738672;1404159344;cgcardona;bitcoinpete: great :) thanks for asking. Wrapping up this chapter and preparing to move back to the bay area 738673;1404159378;cgcardona;we're going back to santa cruz this time. Leaving kauai in about 2 weeks 738674;1404159394;cgcardona;(if you consider santa cruz "the bay area". many don't) 738675;1404159399;bitcoinpete;cgcardona: eh that's coming up fast 738676;1404159418;bitcoinpete;it's close enough for a northener 738677;1404159425;bitcoinpete;northerner* 738678;1404159430;cgcardona;yea. we were planning on doing 6 months on island but my wife isn't diggint it here too much this time so we're headed out a month early 738679;1404159446;cgcardona;yea close enough for me too. I can drive into SF in like 35 minutes or so 738680;1404159453;benkay;;;later tell Vexual hit me up next time you're online 738681;1404159453;gribble;The operation succeeded. 738682;1404159464;mthreat;I loved kauai 738683;1404159481;mthreat;hanalei dolphin, awesome sushi 738684;1404159482;cgcardona;yea it's my fav hawaiian island for sure 738685;1404159489;cgcardona;i met my wife here in 2002 new years eve 738686;1404159495;cgcardona;:) - you nailed it mthreat 738687;1404159503;mthreat;did you do the kalalau trail? 738688;1404159544;cgcardona;yep - in fact that's why I came here originally in 1999. to camp out for a month over new years 2000 in kalalau 738689;1404159550;mthreat;nice 738690;1404159553;cgcardona;we actually drove ot the top of the hill yesterday to overlook it https://twitter.com/cgcardona/status/483409146088140802/photo/1 738691;1404159554;assbot;Kalalau http://t.co/qy5JBAmh9a 738692;1404159564;cgcardona;i didn't get to go into the valley this time though. too busy w/ work 738693;1404159574;mthreat;wow that photo.. i remember visiting that spot, if it's where I think it is 738694;1404159586;cgcardona;yea at the top of the mountain in koke'e 738695;1404159589;cgcardona;magical spot. 738696;1404159608;cgcardona;really great island. lots of california -> kauai connect so lots of cool people around 738697;1404159611;cgcardona;surfers, nature. 738698;1404159617;cgcardona;it's really great. but… its a small island 738699;1404159617;ThickAsThieves;http://media.coindesk.com/2014/06/20140523_164302-e1404154208253.jpg 738700;1404159625;cgcardona;so small town vibes apply 738701;1404159633;cgcardona;that's why we do 1/2 time here and 1/2 ttime in the bay 738702;1404159646;cgcardona;ThickAsThieves: wow 738703;1404159667;cgcardona;!v chax 738704;1404159675;cgcardona;!voice chax 738705;1404159684;mthreat;!up chax 738706;1404159693;mthreat;!up 738707;1404159739;bitcoinpete;http://www.coindesk.com/huobi-lakebtc-added-coindesk-bitcoin-price-index/ << LakeBTC?? 738708;1404159739;assbot;Huobi and LakeBTC Added to CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index 738709;1404159759;ThickAsThieves;http://www.coindesk.com/megabigpower-launches-global-franchisee-network-add-50phs-per-month-bitcoin-network/ 738710;1404159759;assbot;MegaBigPower Launches Global Franchisee Network to Add 50PH/s Per Month to Bitcoin Network 738711;1404159762;mthreat;!up 738712;1404159780;mthreat;!up chax 738713;1404159788;mthreat;finally 738714;1404159796;chax;Ah thank you 738715;1404159815;rithm;wiggle wiggle wiggle 738716;1404159817;rithm;megabigpower eh 738717;1404159824;ThickAsThieves;LakeBTC has a lower rate than the rest, they be gaming dat index 738718;1404159838;mthreat;ThickAsThieves: is that a mining operation? 738719;1404159839;cgcardona;chax: you'll need to get GPG/PGP keys into the WoT in order to voice yourself in the future 738720;1404159851;rithm;megabigpower sounds like Happy Luck Mining, Co. 738721;1404159858;ThickAsThieves;mthreat the pic? it goes with the next link i think 738722;1404159904;rithm;oh shit i'm a vetted candidate and i know how to mine 738723;1404159907;rithm;i have free power 738724;1404159913;rithm;sign me up negro 738725;1404159930;benkay;hey chax - finally we meet 738726;1404159966;chax;Yes - what's everyone excited about in herE? 738727;1404160021;rithm;mircea isn't here trolling 738728;1404160021;ThickAsThieves;USMS SR Coin Auction 738729;1404160026;rithm;i'm pretty excited about that 738730;1404160052;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00082409 = 26.6593 BTC [-] {2} 738731;1404160052;ThickAsThieves;i was telling the traders Silbert wasnt gonna get any coins 738732;1404160057;ThickAsThieves;they were like no way 738733;1404160071;cgcardona;ThickAsThieves: yea that's pretty big news 738734;1404160077;rithm;interesting to see confirmation that he was assumedly outbid 738735;1404160083;cgcardona;guess there were some really high bids or he underbid (unlikely) 738736;1404160088;rithm;prior to official results 738737;1404160097;cgcardona;;;ticker 738738;1404160098;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 639.0, Best ask: 639.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 639.9, 24 hour volume: 14668.86126860, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.948357222 738739;1404160105;rithm;2ndmarket overbid by 11 million USd 738740;1404160109;cgcardona;damn 738741;1404160110;BingoBoingo;I'm guessing Auction results will be well above market 738742;1404160118;rithm;mmhmm 738743;1404160119;bitcoinpete;ThickAsThieves: you expected silbert to lowball? 738744;1404160122;rithm;or it was rigged 738745;1404160126;rithm;or someone is lying 738746;1404160131;cgcardona;so is the traditional wisdom that the market will swing upwards to match auction price sound advice? 738747;1404160134;mthreat;could have been PR stunt on his part 738748;1404160136;cgcardona;*sound wisdom 738749;1404160137;ThickAsThieves;i expected the syndicate to lowball 738750;1404160150;ThickAsThieves;since it's all derp "qualified investors" 738751;1404160165;ThickAsThieves;like 46 people 738752;1404160171;ThickAsThieves;no chance of a good bid 738753;1404160186;bitcoinpete;cheapskates pullin the group down 738754;1404160192;rithm;USMS confirmed 11.25 million in secured escrow 738755;1404160198;rithm;46x 250k 738756;1404160204;rithm;or whatev in deposits 738757;1404160217;ThickAsThieves;no 738758;1404160225;rithm;oh right 738759;1404160229;ThickAsThieves;i meant 46 in the 2ndMkt syndicate 738760;1404160237;ThickAsThieves;which was a min on $25k ea 738761;1404160240;ThickAsThieves;of* 738762;1404160248;rithm;but i'm saying the USMS today released the # of bidders 738763;1404160254;ThickAsThieves;ah 738764;1404160258;rithm;but my math is flawed assuming each bid is separate 738765;1404160263;ThickAsThieves;i think it was 200k deposit 738766;1404160266;rithm;why is probably incorrect 738767;1404160298;rithm;http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-release-new-data-silk-road-bitcoin-auction/ 738768;1404160298;assbot;US Marshals Release Update on Silk Road Bitcoin Auction 738769;1404160311;rithm;The agency told CoinDesk that 45 registered bidders participated in the event, and that 63 bids were received over the course of the auction, 738770;1404160312;benkay;;;ticker 738771;1404160314;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.27, Best ask: 643.32, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 643.27, 24 hour volume: 14706.01506302, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.986624544 738772;1404160315;rithm;45 times deposit 738773;1404160321;rithm;that's your escrow 738774;1404160349;rithm;63 bids 738775;1404160398;asciilifeform;http://www.coindesk.com/california-governor-grants-bitcoin-legal-money-status 738776;1404160399;assbot;California Governor Grants Bitcoin 'Legal Money' Status 738777;1404160425;ThickAsThieves;yay now we can use bitcoin 738778;1404160427;rithm;set your asks for "the moon" and kick back and drink a beer? 738779;1404160461;ThickAsThieves;if they announce price today, i imagine market will move toward that price pretty vigorously 738780;1404160475;rithm;i'm interested to see how quickly 738781;1404160477;rithm;and i'd agree 738782;1404160539;cgcardona;who exactly will announce a price? surely not the USMS right? wouldn't it be barry and/or another bidder? 738783;1404160567;rithm;i'm guessing the winner 738784;1404160576;ThickAsThieves;depends, USMS did not explicitly say they would announce winning amount publicly, but people already have FOIA requests in 738785;1404160576;rithm;no reason really not to 738786;1404160596;rithm;i mean if you won you might as well pump it to the price you paid amirite 738787;1404160597;ThickAsThieves;the auction didnt seem to promise any privacy or whatever 738788;1404160614;ThickAsThieves;maybe theyll email it out by mistake 738789;1404160621;cgcardona;let's hope 738790;1404160626;rithm;CC all the biddersd quick! 738791;1404160627;cgcardona;they mass email out the private keys 738792;1404160648;rithm;it was me I'd annouce that I paid %50 more than i did 738793;1404160653;rithm;is that ethical? 738794;1404160661;mike_c;lying? 738795;1404160668;rithm;is it lying? 738796;1404160674;rithm;or is it a press release 738797;1404160691;rithm;i can't tell 738798;1404160692;cgcardona;you could say "I paid n--give or take 50%' ;-] 738799;1404160746;xmj;ThickAsThieves: i hope the us govt / cali state government does *not* make the market. 738800;1404160783;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03543955 = 0.6379 BTC [+] {4} 738801;1404160786;xmj;ThickAsThieves: do you know your history, in particular what happened after the us govt set a price for gold in the 30s -- and the opposite, in the late 60s early 70s? 738802;1404160801;ThickAsThieves;i think you are taking it to extremes 738803;1404160809;ThickAsThieves;they are providing a signal in this moment 738804;1404160811;ThickAsThieves;nothing more 738805;1404160819;ThickAsThieves;even themn, 738806;1404160827;ThickAsThieves;it's the bidders makign the signal 738807;1404160829;ThickAsThieves;not the USG 738808;1404160831;ThickAsThieves;soooo 738809;1404160949;cgcardona;xmj: I don't know my history so to speak. can you explain more how what you're saying relates to today's news? 738810;1404161393;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00082477 = 19.2996 BTC [+] 738811;1404161697;Mats_cd03;http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act i imagine hes referring to this and others like it causing price per troy to go up? 738812;1404161697;assbot;Gold Reserve Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 738813;1404161815;cgcardona;Mats_cd03: cool thnx 738814;1404161829;mike_c;not so much causing it to go up. more like not preventing it from going up. 738815;1404161832;bitcoinpete;wait… DannyBrewster_ neobee dood is here? 738816;1404161855;pankkake;you know anyone can take any nick 738817;1404161855;mike_c;!up DannyBrewster_ 738818;1404161867;BingoBoingo;!up ziggamon 738819;1404161906;pankkake;!up mp_on_a_pony 738820;1404161913;mp_on_a_pony;hello DannyBrewster_ 738821;1404161922;DannyBrewster_;hi 738822;1404161942;mp_on_a_pony;how's life on the run? 738823;1404161957;benkay;mp_on_a_pony: how's laptop on a horse? 738824;1404161961;DannyBrewster_;from what? 738825;1404161970;mp_on_a_pony;what makes you think it's a horse 738826;1404161977;BingoBoingo;lol 738827;1404161987;Mats_cd03;mike_c: later, yeah. 738828;1404161988;benkay;what, are you astride a small keg? 738829;1404162006;assbot;Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1ZJRQR5.txt ) 738830;1404162006;BingoBoingo;!b 4 738831;1404162006;ziggamon;hey guys 738832;1404162016;pankkake;I didn't get it 738833;1404162017;benkay;what's up ziggamon 738834;1404162046;ziggamon;figured i’d finally say hi :) creeped here a few times, been reading some of your blogs for a while 738835;1404162055;pankkake;oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keg#Quarter_barrel_.28pony_keg.29 738836;1404162055;assbot;Keg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 738837;1404162064;pankkake;I was more implying ponygirl. but well 738838;1404162110;benkay;http://twentypercentcooler.net/data/sample/d4/3b/d43b4b9dc69a50585ebe5e5ba6780656.jpg?1355508663 738839;1404162219;bitcoinpete;well that was anti-climactic 738840;1404162332;benkay;http://www.cpony.com/home/images/ponygirl_folsom.jpg 738841;1404162333;assbot;403 Error 738842;1404162347;benkay;http://thumbs.motherlessmedia.com/thumbs/FB25E19-zoom.jpg 738843;1404162400;benkay;http://ist1-2.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/5/2/0/5/52058/K/E/y/7/KEy7/bdsmHD_826_TheRed_m.jpg 738844;1404162407;benkay;http://s16.motherlessmedia.com/dev339/0/533/187/0533187103.jpg 738845;1404162407;assbot;Error 403 738846;1404162437;bitcoinpete;look at benkay go! 738847;1404162824;benkay;i got distracted by all the tied up babes 738848;1404162834;benkay;plus stuff in buttholes 738849;1404162866;benkay;it's far better than the corrupted vcs repositories on this staging and production server a client handed to me 738850;1404162876;benkay;on this cluster 738851;1404162902;benkay;git surgery dot butts dot com 738852;1404162997;Mats_cd03;i hope ur charging 3x time 738853;1404163012;benkay;yeah i think this warrants an email to client 738854;1404163019;Mats_cd03;unfucking something you didn't do is a low circle of hell 738855;1404163036;benkay;"hey your previous developers left a great big fuck off steaming pile of shit on the floor of your production instance. it's going to take me a while to clean it up. you'll pay." 738856;1404163079;benkay;i'm also billing for the cliquot necessary to get me through this mess. 738857;1404163158;BingoBoingo;Almost sounds cheaper for them to just... start the fuck over 738858;1404163168;ThickAsThieves;BNP giving US $8.3b 738859;1404163177;Mats_cd03;clicquot? 738860;1404163192;benkay;Mats_cd03: right. 738861;1404163210;dub;veuve 738862;1404163219;benkay;FINE 738863;1404163245;Mats_cd03;they're going to start over alright 738864;1404163340;benkay;yeah, this client gets no more support. 738865;1404163358;benkay;it's a shame, as they spent 10k on just upgrading this shitstack to django 1.not-quite-current 738866;1404163385;benkay;and another 5 for me to just unfuck the remaining shitsnarls 738867;1404163408;benkay;and if they want a thing that works its going to cost them 15 next year. 738868;1404163422;benkay;if i'm even taking contracts of that size next year. 738869;1404163430;benkay;it's time for a RAGEBIKE 738870;1404163470;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00082574 = 14.6569 BTC [+] {2} 738871;1404163571;BingoBoingo;;;sell 0.5 BTC @ $5k/BTC USD Method of delivery negotiable 738872;1404163571;gribble;Error: '$5k/BTC' is not a valid price input. 738873;1404163621;cgcardona;benkay: thanks for the words of wisdom regarding getting clients to pay. got someone emailing me right now asking for 'equity' work and you're words were just what I needed to read. 738874;1404163628;cgcardona;*your 738875;1404164050;benkay;cgcardona: referring to my ragerant above? 738876;1404164056;cgcardona;yep 738877;1404164063;xmj;cgcardona: the problem with the US government setting the gold price that at first, having gold priced way over market rates, that created a huge inflow as everyone scrambled to sell gold to the USG at inflated prices 738878;1404164065;cgcardona;I appreciate the feeling 738879;1404164072;xmj;cgcardona: that was in the 1930s, maybe 1940s 738880;1404164072;cgcardona;"fuck you pay me" if I may paraphrase 738881;1404164082;benkay;hah yeah, that's a decent approach. 738882;1404164092;benkay;this client's not a bad client, they just hired some bad devs in the past. 738883;1404164105;xmj;cgcardona: then, in the 1960s, the reverse happened - the USD price set by the government was below what the market would've raised. 738884;1404164111;xmj;cgcardona: leading to a massive outflow 738885;1404164169;xmj;cgcardona: (it went so far that France sent a plane carrier along with the accompanying ships) 738886;1404164360;BingoBoingo;cgcardona: The thing about "equity" work is that even if they become big, on the route to becoming big they will prolly find ways to dillute their eariler payments of equity a la Dogecoin 738887;1404164497;benkay;don't get into business with people you don't trust. 738888;1404164541;BingoBoingo;;;ticker --market all 738889;1404164546;gribble;Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 642.36, vol: 15266.76200095 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 638.338, vol: 13456.86623 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 639.98, vol: 22066.38500861 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 651.91, vol: 60.03909813 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 638.893632, vol: 13832.41720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 637.06801, vol: 18.67301073 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 642.88635, vol: 186.20235541 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) 738890;1404164552;BingoBoingo;;;more 738891;1404164552;gribble;average: 639.986390828 738892;1404164746;Mats_cd03;hmm... 738893;1404164764;Mats_cd03;;;more 738894;1404164765;gribble;Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 738895;1404164782;Mats_cd03;o nm you did it. har 738896;1404164934;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00082596 = 10.9027 BTC [+] 738897;1404165544;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00082643 = 6.5701 BTC [+] 738898;1404165792;bitcoinpete;http://bitbet.us/bet/938/world-cup-2014-germany-to-net-more-than/ << sealed. that's 8 for ze germans 738899;1404165792;assbot;BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closing in 1 week 6 days | weight: 48`171 (100`000 to 10`000) 738900;1404167698;cazalla;gee that was a close ending 738901;1404167865;bitcoinpete;cazalla: mhm 738902;1404168167;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00082532 = 30.2067 BTC [-] {2} 738903;1404168777;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00082643 = 9.3246 BTC [+] 738904;1404168897;benkay;SPOARTS 738905;1404168899;benkay;SPO 738906;1404168900;benkay;ARTS 738907;1404168901;benkay;SPO 738908;1404168903;benkay;ARTS 738909;1404168907;benkay;GOOOOOOOOO SPORTS 738910;1404168937;mike_c;oh sweet, soccer is over and we can watch sports now? 738911;1404168960;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.03079906 = 0.924 BTC [-] 738912;1404168961;benkay;although can't complain about the .02 btc per 'footie' bet bitbet's going to pull down 738913;1404168969;benkay;zing, mike_c 738914;1404168974;benkay;it's almost as though you're american 738915;1404169032;cazalla;i hate sport but the world cup is something else 738916;1404169100;cazalla;but i played soccer as a kid not to mention the fact australia only returned to the cup since 06 so the past 3 have been enjoyable 738917;1404169232;BingoBoingo;Moar Sports http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/angels-slugger-albert-pujols-slowed-by-swollen-lymph-gland-in-groin?ymd=20140629&content_id=82298254&vkey=news_mlb 738918;1404169233;assbot;Angels slugger Albert Pujols slowed by swollen lymph gland in groin | MLB.com: News 738919;1404169621;[]bot;Bet placed: 1.01 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58623333 BTC. Current weight: 99,242. 738920;1404169692;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7617 @ 0.00082898 = 6.3143 BTC [+] 738921;1404169936;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16043 @ 0.00082465 = 13.2299 BTC [-] {3} 738922;1404170363;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00082255 = 27.8433 BTC [-] {3} 738923;1404170668;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 25 @ 0.03079906 = 0.77 BTC [-] 738924;1404171400;assbot;[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03540415 = 0.7081 BTC [+] 738925;1404171402;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00082648 = 22.5629 BTC [+] 738926;1404171489;assbot;RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 738927;1404171507;mike_c;!up RainMan28 738928;1404171518;RainMan28;thanks mike_c 738929;1404171522;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11233 @ 0.00082715 = 9.2914 BTC [+] 738930;1404171523;mike_c;np 738931;1404171523;RainMan28;benkay, you around? 738932;1404171685;asciilifeform;from the lolfarms: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/06/people-on-move.html 738933;1404171686;assbot;ClubOrlov: People on the move 738934;1404171889;assbot;[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00083098 = 3.9056 BTC [+] 738935;1404172756;asciilifeform;from the u.s. school of rectothermodynamics: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/massachusetts-high-court-orders-suspect-to-decrypt-his-computers 738936;1404172757;assbot;Massachusetts high court orders suspect to decrypt his computers | Ars Technica